A thread about all things Heaven Burns Red!Game: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1973710/EN:https://twitter.com/hbr_official_enhttps://www.youtube.com/@heavenburnsred_en_officialEnglish database for event schedules, styles, gacha & enemy stats etc.: https://hbr.quest/HBR play order guide for beginners (made by /u/ anons) https://pst.innomi.net/paste/8y5bwofdz5s8h7zyuqfu4nqrMain Story EN subbed by defenselessperson (Prologue, Chapter 1 & 2): https://youtu.be/iYgk2QsNu74 Main Story and Event Stories EN subbed by FLEreverse (Prologue, Chapter 1, 2, 3, 4.1, 4.2 + Mari, Ichigo, Kura, Iroha, Irene and Swimsuit 3 events + AB collabs + Bond episodes) https://www.youtube.com/@seraph1305U140 event EN subbed: https://youtu.be/KUVLZCdk4I0 JP/general info:https://twitter.com/heavenburnsredhttps://www.youtube.com/@heavenburnsred_officialReroll Guide: https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/425645Style Tier List: https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/425643All SheIsLegend songs full versions: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKIr2ayXySvD5RjLRZORDzgPrevious thread >>4254453
It's time for another Heaven Burns Thread, where we keep going even under threat!Shortly after the Amari goodness, we got another swimsuit event. This time with some 31A focus again. A straight up confession from Yukki, a mind bending line form awakened Tsukasa to Asakura and some solid MeguTama development, all in one package? It almost makes you forget the horrible Karen swimsuit!The next even is already on the horizon and the new Domination mode promises more content as well. The official English channel keeps pumping out new character bios at a moderate pace, so global is still a ways off.
The new official 4komas make Sumomo some kind of enterpreneur. Very odd.
The EN official bios continue to be a thing.
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No update to the paste this time, because I had no time to suffer through memory episode organization. I am almost thankful there havent been any new ones for like over a month now. No extra backlog.
>>4267563I swear this scene was emotional despite the swimsuits.
>>4267364That's fucked up.
>>4267563We are having new threads every half -month now? The fuck with this speed?
>>4267697Three weeks, but usually it takes a month to two. July was just jam-packed with content. We don't get an anniversary and two monthly event at the same time often.
I'm still holding out for a Chie x Minori event where the base is holding a beauty pageant and Chie helps with Minori's insecurities. I can already see the final scene where Minori tries to run away on her skateboard, but Chie chases her down on foot with her lolita rage
>>4267832Minori: "I can't do it... gotta go!" *flips on skateboard and drives off*???: "AHHHHH!!"Minori: "How are you keeping up?!"Suganyan: "Don't understimate Loliiiita!!!"
>>4267832I dig the idea, but add Muua to the mix.
Speaking of event story ideas, I am collecting all of them from these threads. If anybody has more ideas I would be glad to save them too. Maybe one day someone could write a fanfic with them. Right now we have:1. Isuzu eventIsuzu finds military secrets that reveal that the Oshima family were all officially declared dead 29 years ago. She has to break into the military archives to find out the truth while hiding this horrible truth from her sisters. She gets caught and is on the run from the military and there will be lots of drama with her sisters who don't want to harm her, but also can't go against military command.Not sure what the resolution would be, but this is a serious event.2. Minori eventSome kind of beauty peagant or dress up scenario where Lolita-senpai supports Minori by dressing her up and raising her confidence in her girly side. Probably mostly a humorous event.(this is actually the second time this scenario was suggested, believe it or not)3. Dumbass squad eventRuka, Megumin, Wakki, Ichigo, Monaka and Muua are the dumbass squad who failed their tests and has to keep retaking them. Asamin, as a final solution to this sad state of affairs, forces them into a study (internment) camp. Hilarity ensues. (this one was my idea and I got a lot more details, but let's not get too wordy right now)
>>4267920Not an event idea, but Minori has that weird cliffhanger in her memory story about a package that was never delivered.
>>4267922...really? I only remember Ruka trying to make her wear normal panties instead of spats and Minori skateboarding without a care despite it.If we are talking loose ends with Minori delivering something, in 4.1 Isuzu asks Minori to get her a special something (which at the time was assumed to be to help Sharo who Isuzu talked to on the prior days). Never found out what that was about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU0X7CWBbYIFLEreverse subbed Hi no Sasu Mukou e. That song from chapter 5. The more I listen to it the more I love it. Maybe it's already in the top 5 songs in the entire game.
There has been some interesting news about the CN server, and I've learned more about it in general. Well, not interesting for us, I don't think anyone here is playing CN, but interesting because EN might follow the same steps as a separate server, so it's good to know what's up.1. They didn't actually start exactly at the 1st anni as it was in JP. They're in a weird place where most things are at the 1st anni, but the story is still at ch.3, and some pre-1st anni banners didn't actually happen.2. So, they get stuff like YunYun+Maria and Tama SS3+Seira SS2(it's a single banner now instead of 2) as normal post-launch gachas, they weren't already in on launch like in TW/KR.3. Because they started at ch.3, they still have to release 4.1 first(a few months after the release), then 4.2(planned for the end of this year)4. They said they have adjusted the schedule to be faster in an attempt to catch up, but it will take a long time, and in the end they will probably always be at least half a year behind JP, maybe more.
>>4268665>but the story is still at ch.3This could potentially be the reason behind the whole "chosen one" thing. If EN is similar to that, and its translators were focused on the content up to ch.3 as their initial batch as well, they may simply not be aware of the significance of the term.
>>4268669That's what we surmised before, that they translated this long before ever touching 4.1, so they just had no clue.
So is there going to be a stream tomorrow/today or not? Canceling the live show is one thing, but are they too afraid to even broadcast the usual info beaurau?
>>4268740Yes, just the usual one. Still need to introduce the new mode and yet another 2.5 gacha.
>>4268746Are we not getting the Maki event and gacha? The amari event ends at that time and interludes don't delay story events
>>4268347Link to artist s'il vous plait?
>>4268776https://jingbai968.lofter.com
>>4268760Megumi's swimsuit is not an interlude, it's a normal event. It has event shop, score attack and everything.
>>4268746I think if anything they would introduce the new event gacha.>>4268886That doesn't matter, it's treated like an extra, the same way Iroha's was (before the concept of Interludes existed). I think they just realized that making them have no event shop is dumb.
Seira's Bio is so weird in retrospect. They never focused on her crystal ball being important in her content much or that she can't go without it. Also it's funny how she allegedly predicts things through astrology, but in every fortune telling scene she just looks into the crystal ball and never talks about star signs or alignments like actualy astrologers do lol
>>4268919>That doesn't matter, it's treated like an extra,What are you even talking about? It's a normal event that's treated as the main event of this half-anni. We got it a bit early because it was likely the only weekend they could get all 31A VAs together for the live event. And Amari's event was a bit later than it should have been because they wanted to release Yuina's unison first. Both of these are still completely normal, proper events.>the same way Iroha's was (before the concept of Interludes existedIroha introduced the concept of interludes, it wasn't "before the concept of Interludes existed".
>>4268928>it wasn't "before the concept of Interludes existed"Hahah no. It wasn't called an Interlude when it released. It wasn't even mandatory. They changed that later. Iroha's event just had its normal title and was treated like any other prior story tie-in event.
>>4268928Also the idea that they released the event half a month early because of a live stream is bonkers. It's damn obvious, this is a 4.2 event and they will not waste a month on a story tie-in anymore, so they released it to overlap with an event that player who arent that far can play as well. Literally the same logic as the Interludes.
>>4268931>Hahah no. It wasn't called an Interlude when it released. It wasn't even mandatory.Why are you so smug and confident while being wrong?https://x.com/heavenburnsred/status/1580540104069640195>メインストーリー断章And it was always mandatory.
>>4268936They just called it a main story fragment back then. Not an Interlude. Right now they are structured like that in chapter 4, but Iroha's didn't use to be.
>>4268938>They just called it a main story fragment back then. Not an Interlude. Yes, that's how they're officially called in this game. They're called fragments, not interludes, that's the official term.>Right now they are structured like that in chapter 4, but Iroha's didn't use to be.It always was like that, Iroha was in the main story thing the moment it was added. That was the entire point of fragment and why it wasn't an event, why are trying to rewrite history?The only change they have made to fragments since then is to move them into a separate group when they reworked the event screen.
>>4268940>It always was like thatI was actually there, so I know what actually happened. When it came out in the long drought between 4.1 and 4.2 they only made it a suggestion, the same way Requiem or Kura's event get suggested to you after beating those story chapters. It was NOT a continuation of the story mode when you continued to play, like it is now. You didn't click on the story mode and then Iroha's event played. They changed that only around the time 4.2 was released.
>>4268934Is it really bonkers? In the first year, there were only 3 weeks between Swimsuit 1 and Carol because they moved Swimsuit 1 one week later to hit the correct anniversary date.This is how things could have been on idealized 4 weeks only between events/stream on more traditional date perfect schedule.5/31(Irene) > 4 weeks > 6/28(Amari) > 4 weeks > 7/26(stream on a more traditional date) > 4 weeks > 8/23?(next event)That's how it went in reality5/31(Irene) > 5 weeks > 7/5(Amari) > 2 weeks > 7/20 > 5 weeks > 8/23(date where Megumi's event stuff ends)In the end, it's around the same, they just shuffled it around.
>>4268949You don't get it. My point is that this was handled the exact same way the Interludes were, which always started around 2 weeks after the actual monthly event, so they could overlap but not take away the thunder from each other.
>>4268952Yes, I don't get it. There could have been meta thought put into this placement as well, so that newer players would have a non-story event and older players would have a more serious story event. But at the end of the day, the thing is still an event. Not a fragment, not an extra, a 2.5 anniversary main event. Labeled as a normal event, treated as a normal event, promoted as a normal event. If they announce a new event today like that anon wants, then things will get even more bizarre and it would be 3 normal events released extremely close together, not event > fragment > event.
>>4268964You really don't get it because you are stupidly focusing on the wrong thing.This story event cant take away from the content for "new" players in their eyes. If this even runs till late August and there is nothing for players below 4.2 the management will freak out.What you are suggesting is that when Interlude 2 came out that they didnt release the Aoi event at the end of the month, but instead just had nothing for half a month and then released it.
>>4268968How is that any different from Yuina's event running for a month?
>>4268969Swimsuit 2 Yuina to be exact.
>>4268969The event they completely avoided locking away behind later chapters? The event they purposely gave an easy mode that even chapter 1 players can beat? That event that everyone here has complained about from start to finish exactly because it didn't give a shit about chapter conditioins? There is no denying that they were promoting it for new players despite how absolutely retarded that was.Bad example I would say.
>>4268977>The event they completely avoided locking away behind later chapters?Oh. I see. Anon. Open the events page and try to find out under which chapter Megumi's event was placed.
>>4268980That is irrelevant. The current event was promoted heavily as a 4.2 event and they repeatedly told you very strongly to finish the story up to that point. They actually made an effort to tell people it's not for new players.
>>4268981How is it irrelevant? It's a chapter 1 event and is super easy to clear. But if you actually play it, you will get insanely spoiler. The fact that they tried to promote it more this time is their response to people complaining last year, but they haven't really fixed the core problem. I really don't get this autistic discussion, if it was a fragment, they would just label it so. 5.1 will probably get one anyway, and it wouldn't be like this event. This is like Kura's or Ichigo's event but for 4.2.
>>4268986The point going over your head has been established already, no need to keep pointing it out.>It's like the Ichigo or Kura eventAnd most people here agree that if they came out today they would have been treated as interludes.
>>4268989Would Yuina's 1st event be treated as an interlude too? It's also story integrated instead of being its own thing. We got Bungo's event earlier this year and that one wasn't an interlude either just an event. Story-related normal events are a things. Yes, they were early chapters only before, but the writers starting to reach the point where they can't even bother to pretend it's chapter 2 anymore. Both Miya's and Irene's events treated the ch.3 ending/ch.4.1 infodump as something the player should just know, while setting up 5.2 or even 5.3 plots. We just haven't reached the point yet where management will just acknowledge the reality and stop playing stupid games.
>>4268996>Both Miya's and Irene's events treated the ch.3 ending/ch.4.1 infodump as something the player should just knowI disagree. Both of those events went out of their way to not actually spell anything out and mostly avoid actual spoilers. They are just hinting at stuff, the same way the finale of Chapter 2 did. The only thing I really think went too far is the fact that awakened Tsukasa is just treated like it's normal, even though many people can play this before chapter 3.This is imcomparable to Swimsuit 2 or Swimsuit 4, which both just spoil the entire plot of later chapters directly.
>>4269000>Both of those events went out of their way to not actually spell anything out and mostly avoid actual spoilers. They are just hinting at stuff, the same way the finale of Chapter 2 didIsn't it delivered like that because Miya and Irene don't know the answer themselves? But as a player, you're supposed to understand what's going on there, if you play these events early, you're not going to fully get and appreciate them, while getting kinda spoiled in a really weird way at the same time.>This is imcomparable to Swimsuit 2 or Swimsuit 4, which both just spoil the entire plot of later chapters directly.I'm not saying it's comparable. I'm just saying the general baseline of where we are in the story during events is rising to the levels where it's getting hard to ignore. Last year's stealth 4.2 events were like>If you pay attention to that line, notice that thing, and think about it, you realize that it's probably an event placed after 4.2.Now we're just casually getting events where entire storylines are based on later chapter reveals while setting up stuff for chapters that haven't even been released yet, the default state is just different. And so they're more comfortable to be like>This is the anni event, it's about 4.2, so we really really REALLY REALLY recommend you to clear 4.2 first. Here's the campaign and the gacha, clear the story you animals.instead of just making a fragment like they would do in the past. They're still not comfortable enough to lock it properly, but hopefully we'll get there one day.
>>4269008>you're supposed to understand what's going on thereThat's not how I see it. To me these events are purposely made in a way that both pre-and post chapter 3 players can get something out of them. If you already know the twist then you have that strong feeling of elation that the characters are close to figuring it out.If you are a new player then these mysteries will really intrigue you, but will not just give you the chance to predict the twist. Irene's event reinforces the same hint that chapter 2's finale already did. Miya's event gives you a completely new hint that there is a weird time discrepancy, but that only makes you wonder harder. Remember when people used to talk about time travel plot twists? This would feed right into those theories.>they should lock the swimsuit events behind higher chapter requirementsThat I do not argue with. It's obvious and they are fuck-ups for not doing that. I was solely focused on the fact that Irene/Miya are as close to the edge as you can get without actually needing to be locked behind chapter 3 and 4.
>>4269011I don't know. I feel like you're giving too much credit to an average player. If they're the type to think a lot about the story, pay attention, and speculate, then maybe. But if it's just some random gamer expecting the usual kind of event, I think Miya's event especially will be a complete miss for them without context. Just strange setup for something into tease for something into setup for something and then the event just ends without them even understanding what actually happened. We even had an autist here who said it was a joke event, or some retarded shit like that, while they were clearly up to date with things. But I'm not going to insist on this, I can never be in a position to really know what it's like.
Tsukasa's VA agency released a statement to their fans yesterday saying to calm the fuck down because apparently one of their VAs was stalked or something. The timing makes me think it could be connected to them cancelling the live event. I hope it's not, she's safe and not affected by any horrible bullshit like that, but those 2 things are just suspiciously close.
>>4269027Stalking, huh? Not too shocking I guess. An event like this is a unavoidable public point where people know she will be there. On the other hand it makes little sense to cancel an event that big over a stalker, as they could just safely escort her. Or maybe replace her for that event.I would expect the threat to be more tangible.
>>4269034Well, it could be unrelated and something completely different. It's just a "really makes you think" moment when both announcements happened so close to each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riF2Ol7WVGYStream starts now.
Wow, Tezuka and Nanami art... it's really rare.
I want those Ruka and Megumi yukatas as styles, but we'll probably never see them again like the previous atre collabs.
>>4269045Umbrellas... riveting stuff.
15 minutes overtime of shilling. Good thing it wasn't an in person event cause half of the audience would've left already
>>4269077I feel like it could have been done in about 10-15 minutes.
Looks like more advanced 3d dungeons. I'm more interested in how big the story sections are.
Oh you actually get SS tickets for doing Domination mode.
Oh, a rerun finally.
Saying that there won't be another unison this half-anni then doing this is a bit weird, though. Technically not wrong, but kinda slimy.
>>4269108More chances to get the existing ones are not too bad. I already got RukaYukki, so I don't need it tho. I'll just chill in the new mode then.
Were they actually planning to have a live audience event for this stream? 10 minutes new mode preview and a rerun announcement? Like, I'm not complaining about the content, the mode seems interesting, and it's good to rerun unisons, but imagine actually going there in-person for this.
>>4269113The live audience events have stuff going on at the location and after the stream that we don't see. People go there for the goodies and the experience.But it is also possible that they had more planned for such an occasion and this band-aid fix stream just stuck to the basics.
The next stream is in 2 weeks, should be the event one because that's where all the Megumi swimsuit stuff ends.
I am surprised that they were able to control themselves and not release a resistance removal throughout the entire half-anni. I suppose it makes sense to save it as big happening outside of the anniversary celebration.
Seems the styles you can get from the new mode's tickets are just these SS1s. There are some very useful ones in there, but isnt this mode locked between the late game?
Ohhh, we will get some remixes for some iconic songs. Even a remix of Your Profile... wait is it gonna be the XAI version? The trailer already showed off the Burn My Universe remix.I'm unironically the most excited about the music.
>>4269144>but isnt this mode locked between the late game?IIRC, it unlocks after chapter 3, so not that late. But this list really shows how weird it is of them to treat every SS1 like the same thing regardless of powercreep, putting YunYun on the same level as most of these is just funny.
>>4269144Is it limited to just one character, or can I use my 2 tickets to get 2 Yunyuns?
>>4269150Yunyun, Aoi and Tama are for sure the best of the list (which is probably why they come first).>>4269151Mode's not out, so I have no idea. I assume it's an actual mini-banner and not something you pick and choose. If it's random chance then everyone who pulls Bungo has my condolences.
>>4269155No, you can actually pick the ones you want, they showed the interface for a few seconds today. No idea if you can pick the same one more than once.
Megumin is a mysterious woman. Here she says she can use psychics to float like Nanamin's howerbike. Is it a gag? Is she serious? You'll never know until one day she just starts flying.
They've added a few more sprite expressions that are clearly related to the main story, so hopefully that means they're still aiming for a release this year.
So aside from the new mode they also implemented a reward system for beating monthly event stories. Free stuff for us long term players, but a minor incentive for new players I suppose. That whole SS1 thing had nothing to do with Operation Perseus after all.
Hot damn! Professional is 20000?? They really aren't messing around anymore. And it says that Professional has special side-missions, so I guess I'll have to try. But doing that story accurate is insane...
>if the strength difference is too great the enemy will be displayed as purple>ALL enemies on the map are purpleProfessional is quite something.
>>4269672Outside of easy mode events, it's never worth it to play story accurate anyways. And 20k is lb3 on every char. My dark team has lb2 on all but 2 chars, one of them having lb 1 but lb2 lvl cap and one having lb3 with lb4 level cap. That's roughly 19.4k.I'll stick to casual. Dungeons don't sit right with me. Worst content of the game by far.
>>4269696I don't really care what you consider "worth it" you weirdo. I play story accurate for the immersion.>dungeons don't sit right with meIt's really more like an enemy gauntlet on a 3D map. For professional I definitely need to use my lightning or ice party though. No doubt. Those are around 19k too.
>>4269699I can't be immersed, if I get annoyed by the gameplay, which is why I don't consider it worth when I actually need to be a meta fag to not struggle.Don't get me wrong, I like being story accurate, down to only using 1 or 2 chars when those battles happen, but if it's actually not easy and possibly S styles or bad SS can't do it, it's worse than just fighting with stuff that can do it.
>>4269719I beat Razing Eclipse story accurate and thought it was fun. It was challenging, sure, but it was cool.Now that I tested Operation Perseus a bit, professional is definitely for numberfags. Like the special targets are straight up impossible.I recommend playing on Adventure or lower. And even then try to upgrade Nanamin's bike as fast as possible. It gives major buffs.
Nanamin's English phrases gag feels forced to me. Perhaps she appeared somewhat bland during the writing process when she received more focus instead of being a supporting character, so he felt the need to throw some additional meme in to spice it up.
>>4269723I like how Tezuka disassociates every time she does it and thinks it's a nightmare. Asamin is the No. 1 troll and the bane of her existence.
Do I even have to explain why I hate this "refueling the bike gives physical pleasure" joke? At least shock fetish Tama was actually funny. This is just gratuitous.I did laugh when Karen-chan saved Tama though. The serial killer keeps saving lives.
>>4269733Oh right forgot to show the CG. Blegh.
I beat the first map for now. It's pretty well made, but without the character moments it wouldn't be that interesting.Learning more about the lore and Nanamin is really cool though. It's finally confirmed that she can't summon a Seraph weapon at all. This means that a lot of the Seraph staff, despite being hito-narvy, don't have a seraph or can fight. That brings into question whether it's a limitation of the transformation process or if some narvy just straight up never had seraph to begin with. What for example, if those narvy with seraph weapons are "soldiers" or gifted people by narvy standards? So the seraph institute who cant tell what narvy has a seraph made a bunch of failures and those are the general staff at the bases. It makes sense too because no normal humans should work at the base, but not using every seraph member they can in battle would be odd.Also interesting is that Nanamin used to work as an operator for a prototype railgun (which they lost to Cancer and never got used). She was not originally from any of the major military bases. So I guess her and Tezuka met when the intelligence staff escaped and fled to the current base. The timeline is a bit vague, but I assume it happened after the Matsumoto main base feel in the big Cancer horde attack that also destroyed so many Western domes.I am really interested in Tezuka and Nanami's meeting in general, because I assume they knew each other sinc ebefore Tezuka became commander.
I cleaned both maps, but they weren’t that interesting. It feels more like a dungeon with a few character moments and Nanamin. Pro mode is impossible for me right now; even with my best team, I could barely chip away half their DP. They don't hit hard, but they’re as solid as a brick.I wonder what they'll do once all three parts are released. Maybe they'll continue, but with the focus shifted to someone else, maybe Asami? I do think they might release a playable Nanami for next year’s half-anniversary, to celebrate the end of this story mode and Nanami’s bike being strong enough to use against cancer.
>>4269816I got the impression that the only reason this mode/storyline exists is because they don't plan on making her playable, but she's too popular, so they came up with this whole thing to at least give players the opportunity to play with her this way.
>>4269816>>4269867There is no chance they are going to make her playable on the bike. Not until they actually finally decide to create unique archetypes instead of the exact same movesets.
They published the usual half-anni dev post. Nothing particularly special, they mentioned that they are updating the unity version behind the scenes, but that doesn't do much. Very brief "yes, we're working on the story" because they have to mention it at this point.
>>4269733I was more annoyed that they wasted 2 fairly detailed high quality CGs on this random ass gag instead of asking the artist to draw literally anything else, either in this story or in any of the recent events.
>>4270463Look forward to the other 4.
>>4270463Truly, these were far more important than all those monthly events that got like 2 CGs and maybe even reused stuff from the main story and counted it as new ones.I swear in every other situation this would have been a vocal gag with no visuals.
>>4270467Don't forget that time they took literal screenshots of the in game models for Inori's event with a sepia filter over it and called those CGs.Kura's event basically only has a single real CG with a minor variation.Interlude 2 has 3 "CGs" which are just the suit sprites with a sparkly backgrounds.It's a sign of how strong the overall package is that you could basically do entire events without CGs and they would still work, but there is definitely some uneven distribution of ressources going on. And it's not even 31A > everything else. Ichiko, Sharo and Yanagi have a rather huge amount of CGs compard to most. And then there is swimsuit 2 which was just absolute overkill.
I will never stop loving the Oshima family number joke for half-anniversaries. Isuzu will always be in them which is a win.
Gorgeous! Some of these artists really are above the rest.
>>4270474I appreciate pictures, but I hope there's no new Isuzu in the next half year. My luck has been absolutely horrendous recently, I'd rather not be forced to pull. My last banner went 200 without a single SS, and during ani now.. let's better not talk about it.
>>4270479How is this even possible? They gave you 150 free rolls, then around 12000 free quartz combined over a month, several guaranteed SS tickets and banners which GIVE you free SS tickets if you used those free quartz on them.If you didn't at least draw about 5 SS styles in the last two months that's straight up absurd. Open your lock and tell me the truth.
>>4270472>And then there is swimsuit 2 which was just absolute overkill.Yeah, I think Yuina alone had like 10+ CGs in that one. Meanwhile Amari got like 3 and Megumi also appeared in like 3 in their events.
>>42704814 or 5 sounds about right, but considering that was in close to 500 pulls. The 3% rate becomes 1%.
>>4270491The free pulls were nowhere near 500 and I still got 10 SS styles from them in the last 2 months. Sure some of those were basic SS1s or SS2s I already had, but there was also unison Yuina, swimsuit Megumin (x2), suit Tama, SS1 Tama and light Yotsuha in there. I find it hard to believe that someone who spends no money gets this much and you somehow didn't.
I finally managed to eradicate these super bosses. To think that once upon a time I thought the secret boss in Koju's event was unbeatable.
>>4270509I was actually looking for that menu earlier today and gave up after like 10 minutes. I've come to think this game may have too much shit to do. Where is it? Or do you actually have to know which event had a secret boss, unlock it and go back in time?
>>4270514Uh... it's just the big fat button at the top of the event menu. Right next to the Operation Perseus sign.
>>4270516The one that tells me how many story events I've cleared? Am I blind or do you have a button I don't have?
>>4270519Apparently I actually do. Have you accepted the tickets for clearing the events? And the restarted the game since then? That's the only explanation I got.
>>4270525Yeah, I just started up the game again to take that screenshot. And I'm pretty sure I was in that menu before and got a game over to one of them. Well, I'll try going through one of the events tomorrow.
>>4270531I meant if you have accepted the 10 partial SS tickets from that button. Maybe it disappears once you collected the rewards. Though I doubt you would forget to collect them.
>>4270533I did, but I haven't used those tickets yet. Do you not have it because you already used them?
>>4270541I don't know if it's because of that, but I have in fact used all tickets, even those you earn in Perseus mode. Not like there is much to think about.
>>4270545Well, I just did as well and the hidden boss button replaced it. Glad we figured that out.
>>4270498I never said it was free pulls. Like I said I had an entire banner I went to 200 without a single SS, and there were other non free pulls I did.The free ones were just part of those ~500.
>>4270694>>4270695These two are ancient... We must have posted them dozens of times.>>4270697What the heck is this? That's a really random pairing. I guess Yanagi is a bit ninja-like so that is the connection? But Oktoberfest and butler outfits not even like a visual overlap??
>>4270769I think this anon (hopefully it's not a bot) is just dumping everything from danbooru with hbr+yuri tags. If there's a couple pic that doesn't have a yuri tag, because the uploader forgot to put it, it will not be posted.>That's a really random pairing.I was thinking the same, but then I remembered that there was actually that thing with Yanagi in A-san's event. It's not surprising that at least one artist decided it was crackable.
>>4270775>there was actually that thing with Yanagi in A-san's eventYes, hence why I said Yanagi's ninja-like nature connects her to A-san a bit.At least it made me realize that even A-san who is fairly tall, is still shorter than Yanagi. Seing tall peolple in a height gap situation themselves is nice.
Does anyone else have this sense that at the end of chapter 5 there is a day missing? Some things are a bit weird and rushed.For example going from the announcement that Ruka's dencho has no vital signs to Yukki nearly comitting suicide to Tezuka saying the picked up vital signs after all happens so quickly. It really feels like there was supposed to be more time for Ruka's supposed death to sink in.Then in the battle plan against Razing Eclipse Tezuka somehow knew about its teleportation power and they somehow already figured out that it works through the energy reactor at the base being activated by Razing Eclipse. When did they have time to figure all that out?And finally the way that the other squads take care of all these things at the end of the mission off-screen felt really odd.basically I think there was supposed to be an entire day in which some units scouted out more about the enemy and 31A was supposed to fall more into despair and the solution of how to disable RE's teleportation was meant to be more in depth.The only counter argument is that Ruka being vored and all probably couldn't last more than half a day.
It's actually crazy how many Seraphs have some Engrish names. They also have a lot of foreshadowing.
>>4270837What I found odd in that sequence was how MeguTama and KareTsuka were teleported out of existence and we didn't get to see their proper reaction after the meeting before it was announced that hope was not lost. I understand the idea of focusing on Yuki, RukaYuki and stuff, but Ruka's disappearance is a big deal for the whole squad, not just Yuki. They did the bad end scenes to compensate for that, but it's not exactly the same.
>>4270946KareTsuka at least were kinda dealt with. They just took on their mentally strong personas and stayed rational. Probably discussed the situation with Tezuka in detail, which might be how they figured out the teleport and reactor thing (aakened Tsukasa is smart enough to make the connection).But I still agree, it would have been better if at least during Yukki's depressed walk around the base we could have seen the other 31A members try to keep it together in the background.
Mari. We are almost done with 31C now.I can't put my finger on it, but that line about how she grew up with brothers simply doesn't hit the spot. It sort of conveys the point, but... I guess it would have been better to say "she grew up ONLY surrounded by brothers".
Oh A-san was already posted. Then we are done with 31C.
Sumomo's quest for becoming filthy rich continues. For some reason.
Theyareinthewalls!!
Might be a bot.
I finally beat the Dune Worm! It was hell.And now I find out that you don't get a sticker for beating a hard boss with the vial power up. Damn...
Having completed this current conquest mode release, I think the mode has the most potential out of the lot, but what we have now is super bare bones >The mapThis is the most outstanding feature. Having 3D maps with the option of removing any story features can unlock a myriad of new gameplay designs. This is somewhat demonstrated with the missions, but it's still missing meaningful ways to interact with the environment. If they add in puzzle mechanics that influence the map, it'll be near perfect. It'd be even cooler if it takes unique characters to solve these puzzles. I know lore-wise it's 31A only, but having something like a door that can only be unlocked by Isuzu would make the maps feel way more alive than just fancy booster or rails>missionsThey're a great way to encourage replayability, but at their current state, you can realistically do all these missions on a 2D map. They should really take advantage of the 3D to distinguish them from the usual fetch and kill quests. Maybe something like a stealth mission that rewards you for not triggering any encounters would be cool>the bikeHate to say it, but mechanics-wise the bike is just extra stats and the regular dungeon enchantments. Giving it active skills would go a long way. It's also a shame that the finishing animation is story-locked. I think it would be interesting to exchange OD or DP for more powerful skills. The bike should probably have a role on the map too, but that might be asking for too much>difficultyThis is just a joke without actual rewards. You do the story and grind on casual then fight the bosses on professional. Normal is completely useless. Can easily be improved by having missions that incentivize clearing each mode or having better exp drops on higher modesOverall I'm excited to see how they can improve conquest in half a year. I just hope it doesn't end up like galaxy front or sharts battle. Also this will automatically be the worst mode if Nanami isn't playable by the end
>>4271925>It'd be even cooler if it takes unique characters to solve these puzzles. I know lore-wise it's 31A only, but having something like a door that can only be unlocked by Isuzu would make the maps feel way more alive than just fancy booster or railsMost of the doors they encounter are sci-fi electronic and can be hacked by Yuki anyway. 31A are broken in this sense, because Megumi alone, if they're actually willing to treat her powers seriously for once, can solve an insane amount of situations, Yuki can do any computer stuff, and Karen can do any acrobatic/strength-based ones.
>>4271925What you want (and what I would also want) is just an actual 3D JRPG. I feel like WFS would also love to do that, but they have no dev experience with that and doing this for a SIDE mode next to already intense ressource investment for the story mode and monthly events is simply impossible.All I can really say is that this helps them improve 3D maps for future story content. This is a learning experience. They are already way better than anything that we got back in 4.1 times.>character specifics stuff>I know it's just 31AWell that's the biggest flaw of all. This is the perfect opportunity to let side-squads shine. Why is 31A sent on the mission for what is essentially clean up? When do they have the time? This is literally a mission you'd expect for 31C who have been away from the main frontline for a while. Or if they need firepower, 31X and 30G could do the job too.It's Nanamin. She is a limiting factor, because no writer dares to try and write something original, like Nanamin having to interact with a squad we don't usually see her with. This is all about her backstory and growth and of course we need to see that from 31A's perspective....Once they are done with Nanamin's biker adventure I dearly hope the next versions of this mode will actually focus on someone else.>worst mode if Nanami isn't playable by the endThat's delusional even for a joke.
If HBR got any spin-off games, what genre would you prefer?1. JRPG (like a proper 30 hour JRPG campaign, plot could be about anything)2. Fighting game3. Musou style game4. A real card battler (Arts battle is just dungeons with extra steps right now)5. Strategy game (RTS, TBS, raising sim etc.)
>>4271947(me)I unironically think HBR is flexible enough to be any of these. I didn't mention rhythm game, because... it already has that build in.Personally I feel like a Xcom style TBS where you raise bases, protect domes, send strike forces into Cancer territory and collect data, items and allies would be awesome. It's already 6 person squads infiltrating enemy lines and gathering research data or taking out big targets. Expanding defended territory and improving your gear/bases seems like a no-brainer.
>>4271925>stealthNo. The game tried stealth before. It sucked. Like in 99.999% of all videogames where it's not the main genre of the game.Stealth is hard, and if you do it without really knowing what you do it's never gonna be good. And HBR's controls in 3d dungeons are completely ass on top (hold left-click and drag the mouse for camera adjustment?!?!?!?). It's a combination that causes frustration and nothing else.I've experienced stealth in HI3rd, in games like Blue Reflection 2.. it's just not working well as a side-thing.The new mode is just some grindy mode with little value behind it. I vastly prefer the tower. It's concentrated on the one good thing this mode has: Boss fights. They'd need to make exploration feel worthwhile, which is harder than it sounds. 10 bronze exp thingies are definitely not worthwhile though.
>>4271947Fighting game if it's BlazeBlue level of good mechanically. Though new fighting games are almost all cancerous in one way or another. JRPG plotwise with Western RPG gameplay also would be good (but not the other way around). Musou and Cardbattler would be crap. RTS and Raising Sim I don't see how this works but the idea is interesting. TBS is easy though and probably the safest bet.
>>4271956>The game tried stealth before. It sucked. I hope you don't mean Yanagi's event. That wasn't really stealth that was just timing your movement. It honestly felt more like a rhythm game.>>4271957>fighting game like BlazBlueYeah Arcsys is always the go to option for anime fighters. My only issue is that all the fighters would have to be Seraph members, because Cancer are not suitable for this genre. Guess it could be another "Sword Tournament" style plot.>Musou and Cardbattler would be crapIs this just because you don't like those genres? Because obviously in this fantasy scenario we assume the game would be on par with the best.I just think a Musou game makes perfect sense for HBR. They are already fighting armies of enemies and have overpowered movesets. Inrtersperse an occasional boss fight and that's a done deal.
>>4271947Some kind of monster hunter clone. You would have to make up some bullshit to justify the ability to change seraphs all the time, though.
>>4271962Does Monster Hunter have actual swarms of low level mobs before big boss hunts? I never played any of them. If it's about different movesets, you could maybe use and instant switch between party members to change your weapon. Like you want to play dual swords, you plays Ruka. But like on a weapon wheel you can switch the Karen-chan for scythe moveset etc.?
>>4271967>Does Monster Hunter have actual swarms of low level mobs before big boss hunts?Kinda, but not really, the zones are filled with lower level monsters that might attack you, and there are some missions involving them, but it's mostly about the big hunt.>If it's about different movesets, you could maybe use and instant switch between party members to change your weapon.In those games you main a single weapon and go through a lot of upgrades for it, so it fits HBR enough. The weapon types mostly fit too, to the point where HBR could probably have a skin collab with it like some other gachas. The issue is more than1, There are a lot of different looking upgrade options for each weapon archetype, so you will have to canonize alt seraphs in some way to make it work.2. You can change your main weapon with ease, and it would be weird if your MC just changed her seraph from a sword to a big gun. If you do weapon type = character, then it's not a problem.
>>4271960>ArcsysMy only gripe with them is that they have literally 0 yuri. HBR fighting plotwise is indeed hard to justify. "Tournament" is as good as it gets. Though gag scenario or "there is a cancer that can produce doplegangers" are alternatives.>Is this just because you don't like those genres?Musou? Yes, haven't seen even 1 good game. Or even 1 average.>Because obviously in this fantasy scenario we assume the game would be on par with the best.Then cardbattlers are also viable option. There are some quality pve indy gems. Still a rarity.Also to think about it - cosmic horror party survival rpg would be great thematically, but you'll need to make it less sterile for it to work. Which is a tone shift
>>4271975>Kinda, but not really, the zones are filled with lower level monsters that might attack you, and there are some missions involving themI guess that is good enough? Maybe hunt down some Hellhorses before a boss or try to take down a Needlebird as a mid-boss.From what little I know there is a lot of scavenging and using body parts as upgrade materials going on. As we know Cancer carapaces can actually be harvested an turned into plating that protects domes. But upgrading Seraph weapons in itself isn't very suited for crafting they really work more on a "unlock new abiltiies" bases.>>4271976>My only gripe with them is that they have literally 0 yuriTheir fighting games are more focused on convoluted lore and nonsensical plots rather than romance. Ephelt from Guilty Gear is at least canonically bi and hits on women all the time. I-no's also very open about that.>Musou, haven't played a good oneMeh. That seems to be a (You) issue then.>cosmic horror party survival rpg That doesn't suit HBR's tone at all to be honest. Survival, maybe to a degree, but never in a Darkest Dungeon level grittiness. By the end of the day its still too lighthearted and you wanna go back to the base regularly and have goofy interactions. HBR is less cosmic horror and more Earth Defense Force.
>>4271978>BiNot good enough. Besides, wasn't Elphet paired up with giganigga and I-no with Axel? DESU they could have just give me a canon Kokonoe x Lambda, and I would thank them and fuck off.>That seems to be a (You) issue thenAny recommendations?>Survival, maybe to a degree, but never in a Darkest Dungeon level grittinessYes tone shift is a problem, but I'm not talking DD bad. Say, early generation seraphs are sent to fight cancers in one of still existing large cities, something went wrong and the survivors stuck with no connection to base in overwhelmingly hostile enviroment, forced to hide, cooperate with surviving civilians to gather food, resources and possibly seek the way out in a city that getting rapidly transformed into dangerous alien landscape. Form parties to go on missions, seraphs can fight but some civilians provide expertise with medical help, sabotage, drones, intel etc. Maybe you can even find a couple of rogue seraphs to join the party.
>>4271990>niggaThis isn't /v/ or /vmg/, keep it down.>Konoe x LambdaLiterally less than zero chemistry or sense to that ship... The only Blazblue character who is canonically bi is Makoto, the squirrel girl. If nothing else she had some fair chemistry with Noel and Tsubaki (who was supposed to be a lesbian at first until Mori P admitted he has no idea how to write lesbians and just made her a brothercon for Jin). But while I think Makoto/Noel actually makes sense and Noel thankfully was thankfully not romantically involved with anyone by the end, ultimately it wasnt gonna happen.>I-noShe flirts and fucks with everyone. She puts the slut into bislut. She is also not especially sane.>Any (Musou) recsFor gameplay and sheer content I guess Hyrule Warriors. But if you simply don't like Musou combat, just give up. For plot I would recommend Fate/Extella, because it has an in-depth visual novel plotline that is better than any Musou game has any right to be. But that's a sequel you will not play anyway.>survival horror scenarioI think it CAN be done in this universe, I simply don't think it fits the franchise. Obviously, when put under scurtiny, the Cancer invasion is horrific. Billions have died. Humanity is at the brink of extinction. But the world doesn't seem to want to focus on that.Also it would be doomed yuri again. Do we really need any more despair like that?
>>4271994>keep it downNo hostility>Literally less than zero chemistry or sense to that shipIt is (totally) not because I main them. But seriously it has some potential if only writers cared about Lambda at all. Kokonoe has highly disfunctional family and hates her parents, combine that with hate for men she inherited from her mother and this results in her never getting interested in romantic stuff especially with men. But does it extend to her toys? Tager can fuck off to Bullet, unlike Lambda he was a human, has past and connections. So in essence Kokonoe can feel more at ease with Lambda because she is a machine. Now Lambda side. She is problematic because in CS she was, no pun intended, an expendable plot device, and then brought back to life just to fix Nu's balancing issues. So her plotline is mostly shoehorned and crap. She has this little rebelion against her creator Rellius, but there is a fundamental flaw. Like all Saya clones she was designed specifically to troll Ragna, and all her feelings are preprogrammed with no real sustenance, and it's laughably bad how by overriding Rellius' command she is still obeying her programming to defend Ragna. Who hasn't even ever done anything for Lambda, it was her who twice saved him, first time even sacrificing her life. And if we remove that retardation, the only person who really cared about Lambda all this time was Kokonoe, who digged her from ruins and brought back to life. The most yuri vibes I had with this series was Nine with Celica, but unfortunately Nine fucked a cat and this is really important to plot, so meh.>For plot I would recommend Fate/ExtellaThen I'll just give up. Tried it, didn't like it.>Do we really need any more despair like that?I don't mind it if it is well done.
>>4272005>Nine and CelicaThey are sisters. That's why Nine obssessively cares about her.>Tried it didnt like itAnd I bet you didnt play Fate/Extra first.
>>4272019>They are sistersWhen was the last time it was an obstacle for yuri? Plus Nine is way more obsessive than an average sister. Celica is litteraly her raison d'etre, not her husband, not her daughter. So much that Nine's love for her is the only reason for her doomsday plan and what brought her back to light side in the last moment.>And I bet you didnt play Fate/Extra first.No, don't harbor warm feelings for nasuverse in general.
>>4272070Starting in the middle of a series doesnt help. Fate/Extra is a lot better than most. But whatever, no point in convincing you.
Was watching a vod of a streamer playing through the recent event. I can't say that I got any insight from the stream itself, but somehow the vibe I got from the ending part was completely different on rewatch from what I felt during my own playthrough. It felt less like a foreshadowing or setup for something specific and more like Tama's final conclusion for 4. The same way swimsuit 1 was Ruka's closure for 2 and swimsuit 2 was Yuina's closure for 3.When Megumi talks about Tama having to move on even if she disappears tomorrow, does she say that because of some mysterious insight or does she say that because she has already disappeared and Tama hasn't moved on at all? Tama did not get her lesson in 4.2. Until the very last day she didn't let go of it, she was clinging to Megumi's dencho expecting her to come back. The development and personal growth that she was supposed to receive out of that situation didn't happen, those feelings remained a ticking bomb waiting for the future in case something like that happened again. So Megumi is forcibly leading her through this lesson, in the same way that Aki is leading Rumi in the scene that follows after. And with this issue resolved, Tama can finally move forward, leaving 4.2 behind being, ready to face whatever the future may have in store for her.
>>4272156What I don't get is that thanks to the dumb swimsuit mechanic everyone forgets what happened in that time travel episode.So the only one who can benefit from this is Megumin because of her Higher Self sending her memories or messages when it matters. Unless when the time comes Megumin can somehow restore Tama's memories of this event with psychic powers...?I just don't understand. To impart a lesson it has to be remembered. They can't be banking on Tama having "subconsciously" grown internally.
Isn't she specifically referred to as a magician and not an alchemist? I'm not sure about this one, so this is more of a question than a complaint.
>>4272179It's weird because they forget, but they also have the remnants of their feelings or something like that. For example, Yuina doesn't remember what actually happened, but her heart and mind clearly went through that event, as you can tell from her 5.1 scenes. Ruka is the same, as she clearly got her closure with Aoi at the end of that event, even if it was actually erased. Megumi and Tama got those "dreams" in the epilogue, so they should be the same. But I have to agree that the swimsuit mechanic felt really unnecessary this time. They could just write it around Megumi's psychics like in 5.1, it would make a lot more sense.>So the only one who can benefit from this is Megumin because of her Higher Self sending her memories or messages when it matters. I guess that is the way it could play out. But I feel like it's a missed opportunity that she isn't just unaffected by these effects. It would have been a nice touch if she was actually aware of these events happening while the world around her wasn't, the same way as Koju has her own perception of reality filled with ghosts, and is not on the same page as the others.>Unless when the time comes Megumin can somehow restore Tama's memories of this event with psychic powers...?She sent Tama her memories in the story that was written for one of the lives, so it shouldn't be impossible.
>>4272199>She sent Tama her memories in the story that was written for one of the livesOh yeah that bullshit out of nowhere power she just randomly got for that live fest episode that 99% of players never saw. That's really good foreshadowing... Megumin is quickly becoming that character who can just do whatever the plot demands.I don't like when powers dont have a consistent system and I especially don't like how quickly she keeps getting new ones for literally nothing. Let's hope whatever happens will be more elegant than that.
>>4272209>I don't like when powers dont have a consistent systemI'm not sure how I feel about it right now. It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit is actually a valid writing strategy as long as you don't go too overboard with it. There are people who can write really clever logical power systems, and that's really nice. But a lot of the time the systems just open you up to more dissatisfaction than you had before the system was in place. Because before it was a mystery, you weren't sure how things were supposed to work, but now you know, and you realize immediately that here and there it doesn't work the way it's supposed to, that moment is a plot hole, and this moment is an ever bigger asspull after explanation. It's a hit or miss like that.What I think is really lacking now is more serious treatment of psychics as a concept in the setting. At this point we know that her psychics are strong, she can do crazy stuff with them. But Maeda still does this silly dance when they're often played as a gag moment or downplayed and we're supposed to play along. It works in the moment, but when you start thinking about it in the grand scheme of things it's just kinda weird.
>>4272226I don't give a shit if its treated seriously or as a gag. My problem is that it does whatever the fuck the plot demands and that is BAD. You need to established limits. If you are too cowardly to make a system, at least set limits and play with stuff that logically connects. If her powers were just consistent it would be fine, but they are not. Telekinsis, time loops, memory transfers, electrokinesis, extradimensional stuns, mental vision that allowes her to see without her eyes, apparently levitation in general, vocal manipulation, literal goddamn time travel. And worst of all she went from barely levitating a fountain's supply of water to being able to vaporize Cancer, time travel, and all that other bullshit in like 2 weeks. The power increase is not earned, the power ranges in too many directions and the limits are not defined in the slightest. Oh she cant send people back in time anymore because a nebulous unexplained finite supply of special time travel juice runs out? Who in the fuck believes that? She is only growing stronger, how long until she can just do it again? Not to mention none of her other powers are finite so this is just awful writing.Maeda is the type who only cares about results, not how to get there. If he wants a plot about time travel he will makie fucking time travel swimsuit. He doesn't care. But I care. I care enough to only tolerate so much. Fine, have your dumb magic swimsuit events that reset themselves. But the main story? Get at least that right.
>>4272254>I don't give a shit if its treated seriously or as a gag.It does contribute to the problem you're having though. Well, maybe not for you personally, but some other people who have a similar point of view. It being like>haha psychics amirite>oh she can into time travel btw>haha psychics amirite adds to that perception. If the character is positioned as a real deal within the setting and narrative, people are more willing to accept them being openly powerful. When a clearly very powerful character is downplayed because the writer isn't ready to go down that road yet and deal with the potential narrative implications of their special status, you can really feel it, and it makes things a lot more awkward at times.
https://gs-ch.com/articles/contents/arSa3dbHZspSyAkUwRN8XponNew 4komas.
The 4koma artists keep including Tama in u140 when the game went out of its way not to put her there is so weird. Like, you're not technically wrong, she's also a chibikko, but she's deliberately not supposed to be part of this group.
>>4272476Woke up from being too gay.>>4272477Aina is also not part of that group. This is clearly just about putting the lolis together.
>>4272283No, I seriously don't think you are making any sense. The problem is not that she is being "downplayed". That has literally not happened since chapter 3. You are getting upset over the random psychic gags where her voice changes? Seriously? Get a grip. That's not the problem at all. Think bigger picture.The only actualy problem is her variety of disonnected powers and her insane growth.
Inori's bday means HisaIno art!
Flathand... there are two. People have two hands.Fuck. Well played.
Another Yuugen HBR pic already? Sometimes lightning does strike twice.
Is it possible for this to get an anime adaptation? How would the story go about?
>>4273168Possible? Like conceptually? Sure. Practically? Incredibly unlikely and a waste of ressources.HBR has TOO MUCH content. And not the type you can just churn out as anime seasons. Half this game is side-stories that all could be their own 1 1/2 hours movies. If you solely focusd on the main story you would get to know like 4 squads and can probably abridge the chapters to their important parts. But I think what makes HBR work is its longform storytelling and evolving character dynamics. An anime would feel rushed.
>>4273168It's impossible to get a full adaptation due to the length, so they would only adapt chapter 1 and 2.
>>4273181For more detail, it would need 3 single cour seasons (12–13 episodes) for chapter 1 & 2 & 3 and 2 double cour (24-25-26 episodes) for chapter 4 & 5 and that's only half of the total story.
Let's explain the issues with a HBR anime with a basic example. Prologue? No problem, you can just make that 1 episode easily. But then you get to chapter 1. Halrf of chapter 1 is just set up and introducing concepts and characters, so you can basically treat it like a slice-of-life high school anime.Chapter 1 introduces squad 31C, but because they only come in halfway through the already stuffed chapter they are very sidelined. You only really get to know Wakki and Bungo. So in the end many people will not care about 31C. How can you remedy that? They could adapt Mari's event as an epilogue to chapter 1 which works pretty well, but that also just gets you interested in Mari. A-san's event? Can't do it without U140, but how do you integrate U140 into the main plot? So you are forced to move on from 31C without properly exploring them. Repeat the same thing for 31B and chapter 2.Repeat the same thing for 30G and chapter 3.Now you are in chapter 4 and somehow are supposed to feel this big unity with the Seraph squad but you only go introduced to 4 squads and most of them you don't even have any connection to. Because it would kill the pace you can't just have a bunch of bonding episode segments every episode so it's just a nightmare to make viewers care about side-characters.Now you have to consider how to keep constant plot hooks in the story without making it boring. You can't have 8 episodes of 31A setting up the Aegis chain cannons. This repetitive daily grind only works in a game.So you have to constantly create new conflicts that supplement the plot and missions.By now it's clear: Adapting HBR as an anime is a nightmare.
Short chibi meme videos by a CN animator. I wish they would put this on youtube too.https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV18JeFefEzghttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JT421k7yShttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nW421R7Tjhttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV194421S7Bshttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1V4421f7PQ
>>4273168It's absolutely possible to adapt the main story + some necessary events/bonds. It won't be the adaptation of HBR as it actually is, not even remotely close, but you can get something workable going. I wouldn't mind that actually, if it gets the game on the radar of more people and artists, especially the yuri artists, that would be a success in my eyes.
>>4273202Going to BilliBilli is legit like going to a pirate anime site with all the pop-ups and bullshit, except you cant use adblock, because that shit is integrated into the thing. Horrible to use. Makes even Youtube look good.So thanks for your sacrifice.
>>4273209If they have to completely rewrite and change it then the anime shouldn't exist.
>>4273210Yeah, it's a fucking nightmare to use. The author has also uploaded some of the animations as gifs if anyone wants them. https://www.bilibili.com/opus/954324403044220950https://www.bilibili.com/opus/954644292175921153https://www.bilibili.com/opus/965469430811197480Click to get animated webp, then magnifying glass icon if you want gif.
>>4273215Missed a few links https://www.bilibili.com/opus/965423848570748960https://www.bilibili.com/opus/959536667932229636https://www.bilibili.com/opus/959536298579722264
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202408/11752Megumi's VA interview. She actually didn't know what was going to happen to her character after the 4.1 recording just like us, the staff is fucking sadistic.
>>4273577Seriously? That's extreme. Her future is just up in the air like that? They must have planned 4.2 right after 4.1 came out, no? How could she not have known 4.2 is all about her character?
>>4273579According to her, she even asked the staff directly and they didn't tell her.>「逢川を演じ続けられなくなるかも?」と思って。逢川がもう登場しないのかスタッフの方に聞いたら、内緒にされたんです。なので第四章後編でプレイアブルキャラクターになって習志野ドームに行くとは思ってもいませんでした。
>>4273584That's trolling on the highest level.
Everything in their lives is turn based...
>lady's maidWouldn't just "butler" be fine? It feels like the translators are trying to be extra for no reason again, I've never seen anyone complain about female butlers in anime.
Also, why did they jump to 31F after 31C, what a curious order.
>>4274501>Murayama's Lady's maidWow, that is an awkward phrasing. Did they just use "replace all" on butler?
>>4274502someone said its the order of available characters Ruka gets to interact immediately in chapter 1:31F and 31E (via free time) > 31X (day 7) > 31D (day 8)but then this doesn't explain 30G getting pushed back
>>4274501It makes no sense, because Yanagi was explicitely raised like a boy and to be a butler. She isn't called a buttler by accident. Once again these dumb loacalizers would benefit from actually playing the game they translate.I guess you can made a really roundabout case about how Kanata told her to live as a woman again, but they call her butler anyway. Not debatable.
https://gyokusaijima.booth.pm/items/6002064The Amari artist did a new Amari doujin based on the swimsuit event. Support this absolute hero.
>>4274757The cover art
I just finished 4-2 and really liked all the Megumin side with Rumi and Scrappa-ya, but only Megumin section. I hate Ruka's side it's so painfully generic.Hopefully Ch.5 is better.
>>4274800>likes the disgusting dude who hits on underage girls, because ha ha funnyYeah that about figures...
>>4274811>muh underageoff to reddit you go
>>4271994>picHere is the sequel. Ruka was King, Yukki is Queen. Both pooular songs in case someone doesnt know.
>>4274813>doesnt have a problem with hetshitOff this board you go.
Didn't they implement the character specific passive abilities by now? So how do they actually work? Sharo is easy, just have Ruka in the party. Muua is easy, just get hit. But Megumin... how does she transfer SP?
Artists keep drawing MeguTama as family. Siblings, now even mother/daughter. It's really unfortunate how this main pairing is perceived as the least romantic. I blame the fact that Tama is a loli and a mascot so Megumin's affection for her is always interpreted too sisterly.
>>4275314They said it would be implemented in September, I believe.>how does she transfer SP?I think her ability is a skill, the announcement said skills/passives, not just passives. Which is kind of weird balancing-wise, unless every character gets both a passive and an active, but we'll see.>>4275324I'd say there are two factors contributing to this.The first is that in the end, perhaps due to a lack of targeted promotion on wfs part, HBR never really hit the mainstream yuri audience. Which means it doesn't really cover the full spectrum of all kinds of yurifags, just whoever it managed to attract. And the oneloli part of the community that's one of the main audiences for this ship is kinda not there. Not just for them, Yanagi x Kanata also don't get the amount of attention you would expect them to get after their two events, some people even memed YanaShiki into reality over it. The other factor is the lack of clear messaging on their part. The ship is clearly a thing, but they don't do more blatant romantic pandering for it, especially compared to rukayuki getting in your face every time. And it's hard to tell if that's intentional and they plan to develop it later, or if they're just afraid that Tama's non-yurifag fanbase will throw a tantrum if they commit to her shipping.
>>4275372YanaKana used to get a lot of art back in the day. They didnt really have much screentime together since the Yanagi event. And that event split the shippers.I think part of what hurts MeguTama is how unresponsive to gay stuff Megumin is too. She has her moments, but Tama is like way more into it. Megumin couldnt even comprehend that women could like tits or that seduction works on other women during the dome segments...We got a little bit from the Tama electrocution fetish at least.
So we are getting the new event this week for sure? The schedule has been completely upended by now. The last stream was complete filler, so hopefully tomorrow's will be better.
>>4276130They should post the stream info somewhere in the next 3 hours, so we'll know soon. In general, event stuff always goes back to back, so there should be an event this week, unless the new game mode has affected the schedule because they count it as a semi-event or something like that.
https://x.com/heavenburnsred/status/1826212655130202324>new styles announcement!>ah yeah, the event tooDo they have this little faith in whatever it's supposed to be? No proper MC tease either.
>>4276169They also posted that shitty bunny no hi promotional art. The one where Karen looks at "you" with a love letter and "suki". They firmly decided to make her yet another sacrifice for waifufag altar. No self-respect.This shit is doomed.
>>4276238>and "suki".I didn't pay attention to that art, so I didn't even know it was there. Now that I look at the one they posted today, doesn't she also have heart-shaped pupils? Are they daijobu in the head?
>>4276262Management has brain damage, please understand.
I'm really tired of this bunnygirl shit This is the third wave of disgusting bunnygirl outfit fanart for HBR. First when Slutkasa came out, then when they revealed that shitty 31A art on stream and now because it got reposted by the official xitter account. I dont want this garbage to be a mainstay. I already suffer through the swimsuit wave every year. But at least that's just once.
>>4276361>I dont want this garbage to be a mainstay.I wish I could say they would stop, but we're definitely getting another one next year, maybe even two if they want to make it into a thematic banner. Maybe the reaction to it wasn't as amazing as they expected. but it did well enough and they're clearly committed to making it a thing. So the only question is which character is going to bite the bullet.
Saw someone trying to play Megumi's 4th memory without playing 4.2. The message you get in such a case is actually very clear about how hard you're going to get spoiled. Did they improve it at some point? I remember seeing complaints that it was too easily accessible.
>>4276411It's the same as usual. All events with requirements have this screen. But that's not good enough. If they put the damn even in the chapter 1 category new players will not understand how serious spoilers for this game can be. There is literally not a single reason to put events that only make sense with later story chapters at the fingertips of chapter 1 or 2 players. It's beyond retarded. A single screen like that which a lot of people will just skip over cannot compare to the very easy sing posting that it's unlocked after chapter 1. They wouldnt have to give half-assed warninga if they just locked it to the appropiate chapter.
There's some funny dissonance in them trying to simplify and rephrase everything, and then Hiroshimayaki gag gets a TL notes-level sentence.
>>4276361Have you considered not being a colossal faggot?
>>4276427Go back to whatever dump you crawled out of.
>>4276424Took over the whole country? Was that always part of her bio? I thought her gang was just in control of western Japan?
>>4276431The original line is>たった1年で全国制覇を成し遂げた暴走族の総長。
I understand the popularity and everything, but can they be a little less blatant than this?
>>4276691You're lucky they didn't just spam 31A again
>>4276691What the heck's Keio? These collabs are getting more and more random.
>>4276694Trains. Anime train collabs are super common, so it's not that random.
>>4276691It's supposed to be a squad leader thing so the picks would have made sense... If they hadn't completely omitted Wakki.
I haven't seen the stats myself, but it seems Maki is a breaker with thunder def down+def down, they're absolutely mental to release her and Megumi back to back.
>>4276709Mia is going to lose her mind when she finds out about this. She is a total Chiroru fiend.
>>4276708Thia one looka really cool.>>4276709But what the hell is this? This is the most "hit the random button on character creation" shit I have ever seen. Half a skirt, half shorts? Weird dreas hoodie? Frills but also weird random zippers... I hope this is an S Style, because this does not look like an SS.
>>4276715S is Yanagi. She gets the same sp transfer skill as thunder Wakki.
>>4276714Mia took a hiatus from hbr, she doesn't stream it anymore. Well, maybe this will make her come back.
>>4276716This is the lamest SS style ever then. I mean come on... it's just a casual outfit. No theme, not even a weapon. Do they even understand what Chiroru's appeal is? Give her a Kamen Rider rip-off outfit or something. Maybe anything else TV show related, the possibilities are endless for a stunt double.
>>4276718I wasnt talking about streams per se. Just in general she will go nuts on xitter. Also I think it makes sense to take breaks and wait for more content to accunulate as a streamer. When 5.2 is finally released I suspect a lot of the usual streamers will be back.
>>4276719>Do they even understand what character name's appeal is?Do you really have to ask this after that idol Ichigo style?
>>4276709Kinda hope for super sentai costume...This is so out of characters.I'm not sure how to feel about this one, let's see the Ex skill animations, hoping it's not too girly or hard skip.
Why is the style introduction segment before the event introduction segemnt? Huh?
>>4276746It always is...
>>4276750No? They usually do the event PV showcase, then show the styles.
>RedCrimson baseball targetThat's some real fanservice.
>Maki aloneSo the event MC is Chiroru then?
>>4276755Ah no, there she is, everything is as expected.
Maki's ult is pretty cool. It looka like an attack and also like a wheel, so it serves both functions.Chiroru's is....why? Just why? What do vending machines have to do with anything? Is she supposed to be in an ad? That doesnt sound lile a stunt double job .... Also is she a healer? Weird.
>>4276757>Also is she a healer? Weird.She always was a defender despite her ult being the way it is.
>>4276758Before Vrittika no Defender had an actual healing ult.
They also gave Chiroru a 12SP attack skill, but it isnt considered an ult. That's the highest SP cost for a non-ult yet, right?
>>4276759Aoi and Seira had heals on S styles the first year, it's still supposed to be their class mechanic.>>4276760Pirate Aina's normal skill is also 12 sp, but it has half SP mechanic. It's the new weird thing where some characters get ult and worse spammable 2nd ult. Dinner Koju and bride Sharo normal skills are also like ults, even if cheaper than this one.
Oh they brought out the big boy boss, so these styles must be strong. A light/lightning party shouldnt work and yet...>>4276763Yeah but like I said it wasnt a thing for Defender ults. But this is apparently more of a buff ult anyway.
I dont get it. Can't Megumin's swimsuit style do the same thing as Maki but with a field on top of it?
Interesting, looks like it will be a shared event for Maki and Chiroru. And they clash with Seraph at the base?? That certainly does get my attention.Also a dog.
>>4276766She has DP def down too, so she should be better for breaking if it's like Isuzu's. For HP I think Megumi is just better, unless Maki's number are non-default and bigger than average. continent too. I guess you can ult once, then do her SS1 blaster ult once, but I can't say if it's good or not without testing.
>>4276769>continent tooI don't know what happened with this sentence. It was >She's also single target(I think) when Megumi is aoe, so it's less convenient too.
Character skills/passives are in 2 weeks,
Operation Perseus is updated faster than I expected.
Finally thw level 4 for the other orb bosses.Tower upgrades for Maki and Shiki. Good.>>4276773Looks like they will do one update a month. If its 6 mini chapters then we are done by Ocotober.
>>4276775Making Shiki's ult 9SP and add charge for everyone definitely makes it better. But it still wont make her meta again.
Releasing a weird side-grade on a not so popular character to a style of a much more popular character that was released a month ago and rolled by a lot of people is some galaxy-brain business planning, I'm too dumb to understand it. Like, regardless of who of them is better at what and that kind of stuff, why would you ever do that?
hbr.quest is up. Maki's DP def down is slightly worse than Isuzu's(100 vs 140). Even though Isuzu is aoe and Maki is st, so by the rules of this game Maki's should be stronger. I guess Isuzu got the strongest initial attempt version that no one else will have and then they nerfed the effect a bit.
It's such a waste that Ruka and Scrapya didn't have much actual interaction
>>4276792Please keep your weird obssession with dudes out of here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJqPElf5jn8Here's the event trailer. Can't tell if the new SiL song is good or not from what little I can hear.This seems to be more of a 31F event than the prior ones. And just like with Yanagi't they seem to focus on two characters at once (Yanagi/Shiki and now Maki/Chiroru).I can already tell that Maki's backstory is that the prior leader was a cool biker chick who saved her back in her librarian days. I got a soft spot for those kind of stories. Can't really tell why Maki and Chiroru would draw their seraphs and fight in the base though. It's not movie squad related.
I only care about 31A
>>4276813And nobody cares about you. Thus balance is restored.
>>4276785More like Isuzu doesn't deal damage so it's so strong. Maki does, and has a ton of other debuffs.Now the usual disclaimer: Not a debuffer = sucks at debuffing = it's not as good as it looks. An LB 3+ Isuzu can triple the damage dealt against DP with a single cast of her skill. Maki has technically a LOT more on her ult, but due to not being a debuffer, she also caps at a similar level, though depending on stat spread she might not even cap her buffs.If Isuzu ever gets access to a regular fragile, she breaks the game. But anyways, two skip styles. Maybe it's just me, but I never felt the styles with exclusive effects ONLY for on element styles have ever been good enough for that limitation. Chiroru is a good example. I'd call the style very OK, if it hadn't such a restriction making it extremely hard to bring mind eye into a light team with her as the sustain. Suit Tama is neutral.
>>4276785It's kinda bad that I felt happy that Isuzu gets to stay the only relevant one with that ability... Sometimes I just hope that if she gets more attention by fans she will finally get an event. But in truth her getting such a meta style was a pure coincidence I think.
>>4276805What are the chances for some yuri this time around though? I guess we can only hope for a new pairing between Maki and Matsuchiro. Maybe some YanaKana and YanaShiki on the side.The Maki/Inori artists will be so disappointed though lol
Who's the most popular character?Let me guess: Ruka, Yuina, Megumin
>>4276828>But in truth her getting such a meta style was a pure coincidence I think.I don't know if wfs have interns working on some styles, or if one of their devs is simply insane, but sometimes they randomly give some skills/effects absolutely abnormal numbers that make no fucking sense. It's especially funny when they release Miya and her debuffs are normal 45&50 st, then they release Isuzu next month and hers are 65&140 aoe and it's just ??? And then they never gave those exact numbers to anyone ever again for almost a year.
>>4276835>Ruka>MeguminYou wish. The top 3 are Yuina, Tama and Aoi. Even Nanamin has overtaken Ruka now.
>>4276827>More like Isuzu doesn't deal damage so it's so strongI don't think it's like that, light Tenne's defense down is still normal. I compared the skill descriptions and I think Isuzu's DP down is like a big DP defense down and Maki's is the normal one. So Isuzu got a stronger version on the effect introduction.
>>4276833>I guess we can only hope for a new pairing between Maki and Matsuchiro.It's herover for Carole, there's no one left for her.
>>4276856Oh yeah, I guess you could ship Carole with Matsuchiro based on her event. I never perceived it that way though. The only real ship possibility I ever saw for Carole was with Maria, but Irene/Maria is basically unstoppable by now.
>>4276857>I never perceived it that way though.It wasn't really a thing, but it was her only realistic option that had some potential. If that's gone, her current perspectives are either being maidenless for the foreseeable future, or becoming a comic relief side chick for a character with established partner that's not her.
>>4276846>Aoiok>Tama???
>>4276864So sad. I think her dynamic with Maria was really good and layered and was actually pretty annoyed when they started pushing Irene/Maria. But to be honest, that pairing grew on me, especially after Irene's event.HBR has the potential to make you root for surprising ships for sure, but at this point we are running out of girls to pair up somehow.Carole is such a nice positive but also entertainingly petty character who palys off almost anyone. I still remember how I almost teared up when she had just a minor interaction with Sharo at the base in 5.1 that referenced Sharo's event. So wholesome.Unfortunately all girls she meaninfully interacts with are taken.Maria --> IreneSharo --> Ruka & YunyunVrittika --> YotsuhaA-san --> MariRuka --> YukkiMegumin --> TamaIchigo --> Aoi (or Higumin now I guess)and now perhapsMaki <--> Chiroru
>>4276869Anon, if you are the idiot who only cares about 31A and dudes, then you of all people should understand that lolimascot girls are always popular with waifufags.
>>4276876oh right, I forgot this was a millenial lolige
>>4276880No, you are just not very bright.
Speaking of Jap waifufags and their trash taste, from xitter's reaction it seems people overwhelmingly care more about Chiroru's new style over Maki's. I've seen like a dozen Chiroru arts already and like two Makis.Also this artist's Carole reaction from a few months ago can just be repeated but flip Irene and Matsuchiro lol
*Chirol
>>4276891>Also this artist's Carole reactionCome to think of it, wasn't Carole event released around this time too? It will soon be the 2nd anniversary of her no-SS2 life.
for me, it's Coomander Tezuka
>>4276896Yeah it came out two years ago in August. Carole is the most mistreated squad leader in that regard. At least she does appear relatively regularly in events and story scenes. Chiroru and Maki really have gotten nothing at all aside from very minor moments in Carole's own event. In Yanagi's event they basically did even less than Tenne and Hisame who arent even part of the squad.In that sense they really deserved it the most.
Kind of sad it's not a movie squad event. It's good for 31F, but there aren't that many characters who can get it at this point.Carol: Probably not getting a 2nd event.Megumi: Even if she gets a 2nd non-swimsuit event like Yuina and A-san at some point, it's not going to be about the movie squad.Ichigo: Probably not getting a 2nd event? Even if she does, there is a very high probability that it will be about 31B post 5.1.A-san: Not getting a 3rd event any time soon.Maria: Still can get a movie event, the only option left.
>>4276912Oh, I guess Matsuchiro is also an option, even though she seems to be a co-protagonist for this event, it's not really "her" event.
>>4276912I don't think it's that unlikely for Carole to get a second event. At this point it's kinda clear that they aren't taking the 1 event per character restriction that seriously anymore. Carole's movie set-up makes it a very easy sequel when they run out of ideas.Don't forget that Chiroru doesnt have an event yet. She is important to this Maki event, but that doesnt exclude her from getting one.>MariaHer event will definitely be about her backstory on how she isn't a "real" Sister, so I expect Irene to be involved.
This was posted before the reveal of the event.... Good job.
The artists's comment: "Satsuki Mari is the type of woman who can destroy your life."
>>4276827>Maybe it's just me, but I never felt the styles with exclusive effects ONLY for on element styles have ever been good enough for that limitation.I think it's fine for attack-based buffs because they generally match in your team unless you go out of your way for them to not to. But "I'm going to protect everyone except you two, you're the bad girls and you don't deserve it" is just annoying to play, yes.
>>4276959Even for attack it's silly. Take the Yotsuha light style and her hit buff. Why only for light styles? For light attacks I could see, but styles? Same goes for Tsukasa. If it would be for attacks, you could use Monaka ss2 (light) with the ss1 ult (dark element) just fine.It'd change very little by just allowing every style to access it, same goes for light tama's SP heal on ult, or fire Aoi's SP heal on ult.
They always fix the parings for this part.
https://dengekionline.com/article/202408/15140This year's dengeki popularity poll. Top 3 is what you would expect, but the rest, as always has some wild discrepancies compared to the official one.
Took them long enough to give Maki a pairing, if you can call this event that. She's always had a lot of potential, but it feels like only the Maki x Inori shippers saw that. I know Chiroru also has her fans, so here's hoping we get some more shipping art of them.
>>4277298>have to tear RukaYukki apart to get inWhat is the meaning of this?
I'm a little behind so I just finished Operation Perseus Part 2. It was pretty nice. I did actually laugh at the DnD scenario they had. The interconnectivity of the map really makes me wish for an Open World HBR game where you explore, conquer and liberate areas. Should have added that to the options >>4271947All this Yukki abuse also reminded me once again that every squad should have some tech savvy character. They encounter too much dormant technology to not have this. It's actually quite bad that the squads weren't balanced like that. Who would even apply to that role for every squad?31A: Yukki, maybe Awakened Tsukasa (doesn't seem that tech savvy though), Tama (she is only good at math and cant even read English though)31B: Higumin. Nobody else needed.31C: Maybe A-san (she is actually a genius), maybe Tenne (she is only good at chemistry though)31D: Nobody. This is bad.31E: Ichiko is well educated, so maybe her. Isuzu seems the type who at least understands mechanical stuff. Perfect Dreamer Yotsuha would probably be a tech genius, but it's not a summonable state for her.31F: Maybe Yanagi, but that's really a stretch. Maki as a biker and secret smart girl should also be a decent mechanic.30G: Nobody. They are strong, not smart.31X: Vrittika. She may be focused on theoretical mathematics, but I think she can apply it. Irene in her pursuit to become a perfect detective dabbled in all fields, but we know she is pretty surface on some topics.As far as I see it, most units are really ill suited for these kinds of missions involving setting up tech or dealing with old facilities. The Seraph unit is way too combat centric.
>>4277838In 31D it could be Fubuki. We don't know all that much about her yet, but she at least used computers before. She wouldn't have to be a genius at it like Yuki, only enough to know what's salvageable. Also we did see 30G managing the logistics of the forward base in chapter 4. I wouldn't call them "not smart", just not into tech as Yuina keeps demonstrating. I also can't imagine one of them filling the tech role though.
>>4277839>FubukiHmm... she must be knowledgable about instruments and editing software from what we know, but that's not exactly the type of know-how you need for advanced military tech.Like if you gave every girl I listed an instruction manual, could they set up these sensors from Perseus Part 2? That's the most basic level I feel you need in a unit. Perhaps Fubuki can do that if she feels like it.In 30G... I think nobody could do even that. They are more likely to crush a mechanical door than to fiddle with the control console. At the absolute most charitable I can see Sugawara and Kura having the patience and finesse to follow a tech heavy instruction manual to set something up. But it would take them about 10 times longer than any halfway competent person in that role. And without instructions or a research staff aide most of these girls would be useless. That's why you need a tech girl for everyone.
Alright, managed to squeeze the Maki event into my schedule. That was a pretty standard event, but HBR's quality is so high that average is good.I think Kai wrote this one too, because it referenced the Nina and Yanagi events. Not to mention giving Asami some attention. It was actually super refreshing to have Asami as the commanding officer while Tezuka was out of base. I seriously laughed pretty hard when it turned out that she didn't falsify her reports to protect 31F, but rather because she didn't want to be punished for incompetence lolIn general this event strayed a bit from the usual "we are such a perfect little family" thing we usually got going on in most events. Well to be honest, Kai's events often have one character who goes against the grain and causes some friction. That's good.Anyway, Maki is really damn cool. I genuinely mean that. She actually almost solo'd that boss Cancer. I respect that they really forced you to play solo Maki in the final dungeon. I wish more events did that stuff. Too bad they abandoned forced squads after Ichigo and Ichiko's events.Another thing I really love is when they integrate game mechanics with the narrative. Seeing the infinite fighting spirit buff on Maki and Chiroru in that fight was so cool!I've said it before, but I really got a weakness for the delinquent/gang member with a heart of gold shit. So obviously this just hit me different. The passing of the torch theme was pretty strong again in this event, but when even the damn dog passed on its mantle through the generations in the spirit of the Venus Knights I did tear up....One thing that confused me is the final implication with the sticker... I think Maki was implying that one of her old Venus Knights members keeps breaking out of the dome to take care of these dogs? That's how the cape/bell collar keeps getting passed on and how the new sticker exists? I'm not too sure about the details.
>>4277913Now for the yuri side of things. Shiki was hilarious. Getting a literal heart attack from hearing the gap moe and gayness between Maki and Chiroru had me rolling. This event acknowledged her womanizing ways again, which the Yanagi event obviously had little space for.Aside from that... I don't know if I would call MakiChiro really a ship yet. But they have intense aibo/partners energy. I loved the call back to the fact that they are both part of the movie squad and that's why they could act out their little fight at the base so well. But more than that I was really impressed when Chiroru said she would be fine leaving the Seraph unit with Maki and help humanity in a different way. Chiroru is generally a character who puts others first, but to her Maki must mean a lot more. This even definitely showed that some Seraph members are not compatible with the military at all. Maki will simply not bend and that's fine. At least this is the one time that the punishment for breaking the rules this hard wasnt just cleaning the bathrooms. Solitary confinement is a bit more severe. Especially for Maki who has trauma of dark places and being alone.Of course 3 days is still a really minor punishment, but that's more to do with Asami's meddling.
>>4277467Unironically, this is a better Top 15 than the official one. This feels way more like a top 15 based on actual relevant content we got lately. Having Yukki, Ruka and Megumin in the top 5 just makes so much sense with how many good moments they got in Chapter 5. Tama being a lot lower also makes sense, because she simply doesnt get that much to work with compared to the rest of 31A. Same with Nanami being some spots lower than usual.Sharo isnt that much higher compared to the official poll and Amari are pretty similar too. The only thing on this list that I would even question is Tsukasa in 10th place, but she hasn't even gotten her own arc yet, so it's not that strange.
>>4277929>I don't know if I would call MakiChiro really a ship yetMaybe not if the event had stopped at the industrial area, but their whole "I'll follow you anywhere forever" and Maki dropping her tough girl voice at the end cemented it for me. This was just one event that really propelled their relationship forward and I'd say they already have more chemistry and a tighter bond than some of the other pairs we got.
>>4277961I didn't notice her immediately so when the scene was about to transition and I saw her peeking out I nearly got a heart attack like Shiki lolI guess Seira being there and Shiki's reaction to that final convo in jail really do cement that it was intentionally a shipping thing. I liked their chemistry, don't get me wrong. It's just that it doesn't have that romantic undertone that I felt with Amari for example. And of course all side-pairings pale before the 31A pairs.Actually... that might also have been intentional. You know these delinquent type movies or those about yakuza, they often have these intense aibo relationships between the male lead and his best bro where they clash, but also have each other's backs. Those are so intense that the line between bros and romantic crush nearly blurs (at least fujos will tell you that). Maybe that is what they were going for.
Yuugen... he is on a HBR art spree lately. It's kinda weird after he neglected it for almost a year outside of that 31B swimsuit thing.
InoriShiki shippers are honestly amazing. Just for the sheer audacity and their sense of humor.
I need a comic strip about how Niina visits Asamin in jail after this event.
>>4277953>The only thing on this list that I would even question is Tsukasa in 10th placeI wouldn't put her that low, but the awakened Tsukasa turning into another screaming character really lowers her stock for me. Her cold and sarcastic attitude was much more interesting and fresh within 31A, we didn't need every single one of them screaming. When she was screaming MOOO IIIII in the last swimsuit event, it was basically Yuki's YAMEROOOOO, the exact same dynamic. Also, her VA doesn't scream as well as the other screamers in my opinion, so it's a little unpleasant to my ears.For this polls voters though... I don't know. Maybe bunny Tsukasa? Maybe this particular subset of the fanbase that voted in this poll has more people who really hated it compared to the average.
>>4278011> her VA doesn't scream as well as the other screamers in my opinionThe problem is that she has to do the deep voice and scream with that. When she screeches as dumbkasa it is perfectly fine. Like every time she shrieks when Karen-chan scares her that actually sounds natural. But when she yells as awakened Tsukasa it is clearly hurting her voice so it sounds bad.I'm split on the concept itself. Yes, I much prefer sarcastic and cold quips. Every A!Tsukasa moment I adore is when she is just attacking with her sharp tongue rather than her vocal cords. On the other hand I sort of like the idea of her breaking her facade when she deals with something she finds truly insufferable or grating, because she is not used to social interactions.Whichever way it leans, it's definitely unnatural, considering how she got really annoyed by Karen-chan's constant yelling. She was like the only one who actually pointed out how annoying and loud Karen-chan is and now she joined her.Ultimately it's Maeda who thinks shouting is funny. In serious moments like the entire finale of chapter 5 A!Tsukasa is composed and cool the entire time. Totally peak. But when he wants to make her funny suddenly she needs to shout. It's unfortunate. That kind of thing should be used sparingly for a moment where it really counts.>Maybe bunny Tsukasa?Definitely not. Entirely wrong audience to be angry about more fanservice.
We finally got Shiki. Looks like they didn't censor her gayness. That's good to know for the future.
This Sumomo arc has been going on forever. I guess someone is overcompensating for how little attention she gets in the game.
Yotsuha's laziness backfiring because Muua now views her as her dom was pretty good.
They are on the same wavelength! Yur shipper mode!
>>4278311...but actually Shiki can't help herself and immediately starts hitting on Seira.
This is something really minor nobody except me might even have noticed, but they patched SS2 Muua's ult. It used to be unable to select allies with broken DP (because it is a targeted heal), but now it can be used on broken allies. That's a major upgrade considering her SP + ult use recovery work independently of DP.
I usually rank events and story chapters separately and also in a list rather than tiers, but I realized that it might be better to group them together like this. It shows a more understandable quality level than a numbered list. Sure, you lose the direct individual comparison, but what is the quality difference between rank 1, 7 and 12? These tiers show the perception much better.I just wish the tier maker used better symbols to represent main story chapters. The picture for Chapter 1 is pretty ambiguous.
>>4278488>superb>recap 1>recap 2Anon... please. I know there are people out there that like recaps that give you some MINOR information on top, but recaps are fucking recaps. They are done to save production time. They are filler episodes in anime and whatnot. They are cashcrabs as anime movies. Little efforts but you have something you can sell, and fans will gobble it up because it's very slightly different, or narrated from a different perspective (the classic).All recaps belong into the same tier called recap. Most people will not enjoy them.
>>4278733There are no recaps in HBR. I think you hit your head.
>>4278741The guy probably just skipped through the events and decided he knows that they are definitely just recaps because they deal with something that happened in the main story.
>>4278733This is the dumbest take for Requiem and Kura's event I've ever seen and I have seen quite a bit of dumb shit.
Seem MakiChiro is taking some upwind.
>>4278992It's not the first time I've seen it here, though. I think this is the same person who keeps insisting that 4.2 plot was never supposed to exist, they have their own schizophrenic version of hbr.
>>4278998Really? The only dumb takes on these events I remember was one guy saying "Kura had an event?" as if it was super forgettable and another claiming Requiem was bad because Ichigo sucks.Both of those are real low IQ takes, but at least I can sort of see that being a very opinionated interpretation. This "the events are just recaps" crap is never before seen autism.
>>4278999https://archived.moe/u/search/text/recap%20episodes%20people/The first few results.
>>4279001Oh boy, so the Ichigo hater and the recap idiot are the same person. That explains things. Glad we cleared that up.
It's weird to me that anyone can actually hate a particular character when at worst they are just bland, uninteresting, and one-note. I think the only one I have a disdain for is Vritika, but it's more of a dislike of the idea behind her character rather than her character itself. She's better now that's she interacting more with the loli team, but I still remember the days when everything that came out of her mouth was either about curry or math. Again I didn't really mind it, but the concept of an Indian character doing that is really suspect. I wonder if there's going to be any controversy surrounding her once global releases
>>4279091Come on... all the 31X members are stereotypes. That is the entire point. They are meant to be a hyper-condensed caricature of their culture.Chinaland wasn't offended by Yunyun being a Chinadress cosplayer and constantly going on about Zhuge Liang, the most stereotypical strategist choice. If they were they would have forced the game to censor or change it, because the CCP is about as sensitive about any perceived slight as a bitchy high school girl.Vrittika didn't get a lot of screentime initially, so of course you only got to know her superficial traits. She is a genius mathematician, that's not a bad trait. If anything as time went on they focused too much on her curry obssession. I actually like a lot of Vrittika's appearance less than I used to. The constant curry gags are so lame. She is the most interesting when she isn't with the loli unit, because there is more going on. Sharo's event, Irene's event and her first memory episode are probably where she shines the most.
I get it now. The stretch scene between them was supposed to be mirrored when they fight back to back later. Fully entrusting each other's safety and reaching a spot the other can't reach.
Images with an overwhelming smug aura.
>>4279319She should meet this fallen to darkness adult Tama. Megumin-san would be humbled in a night.
>>4278488Man you really, really, really hate those Angel Beats crossovers. Were they that trashy?
>>4279321>darkness Tama>not a mischievous gremlin in need of onee-san's correctionHeresy.
>>4279366Adult Tama would be unstoppable and hard top. Seeing Megumin on the bottom is like poetry.
>>4279350The first one was bad, the second one was fine.
>>4279350First of all I put the second AB collab into Enjoyable category, so I don't hate them by default. The first AB collab was just very lazy. The HBR side of things was completely pointless. This could have just been Irie's backstory as a mini-episode and you would lose nothing. It was completely disconnected. AB fans probably would have prefered an AB narrative without all the pointless retreads on HBR's most basic setting details that they already learned in the Prologue/Chapter 1 which they needed to beat to get to this event... and HBR fans got nothing out of it for the same reason, but they also might not even have any connection to the AB cast, making it doubly useless.Beauitful the Blood was so much better, because the HBR cast went into the AB setting and was actually essential to solving the conflict. You can't do that event without Ruka, but you sure as hell could do the first one without anyone other than Irie. Naturally the fact that BtB gave closure to a fan favorite yuri ship also elevates it.
>Yukki: Don't mind me and my girlfriend's gigantic playlist
I must have forgotten to post Chiroru here. Whoops.
>>4279366That pic is a Black Lady reference (probably).
And with that 31F is done. I wonder what unit they will post next.
I honestly didn't expect this ship to take off so much. Seems I am a bad judge for this kind of stuff.
There are no asset spoilers yet (I think), so this is a good time to random guess the next event. If they don't do the thing where the character&squad get the event/styles even though they already got it not too long ago, or a main character repeat, it should be something like>31E: Minori, Isuzu>31D: Fubuki>31B: Sumomo, Higuchi
>>4279980I will predict that they will not do a Higuchi event (unless it's a story tie-in by Maeda). As a character she is just far more relevant for the main story and everything we learned in 5.1 is simply not event material for people lagging behind.Maeda is saving up something for Sumomo, this has been clear since chapter 4.2. Her berserk mode or whatever that Ichigo keeps alluding to. If we get a Sumomo event I can sort of see it diving into her hitman backstory, which would also benefit Ichigo.31E... as much as I crave the Isuzu event, I'm not going to put my hopes up. I feel like that have no idea what to do with her as the focal point without severely changing the status quo. They prefer giving her a small but memorable role in other people's events.Honestly with how much they cram the loli unit into everything these days I expect a Yotsuha event.
>>4279984>I feel like that have no idea what to do with her as the focal point without severely changing the status quo. She might get an event if they want to continue the military secrets plot they've been building with the other events recently. She's probably the best character in 31E for that.>Honestly with how much they cram the loli unit into everything these daysI feel strange about it. I like them in their events, but I really don't think they're that interesting to justify the amount of random appearances they get. Why not introduce and establish more groups to have more variety in cameos instead. Like the tall girls or big sister group, yuri hunters group with Seira, Shiki, Isuzu + 3, genius group, retard group from 5.1, ikemen group, whatever else.
>>4279989>Why not introduce and establish more groups to have more variety in cameos insteadLast time Kai tried that we got the Niina event and that group really had no chemistry at all. There is no way we will see the hot springs squad back together. The "different types of beauty" thing is too high concept.I actually vastly prefered the 31E cameo in Irene's event. They were connected through a plot point and it was interesting. Completely scrambling random characters into a new group again seems like a fool's errand this late into the game.Though I agree that the dumbass squad has potential. It helps that Ruka is part of the group, as she ties together basically everyone in the base. I think the only new group dynamic we might get is the military secrets group you brought up. But for that to happen they need to take some risks and go into main story territory. I wonder if they ever will.
>>4279995>Last time Kai tried that we got the Niina event and that group really had no chemistry at all.You're not wrong, but I also feel like that group had random ass character picks and I didn't think they would click well just from watching the PV when it was revealed. I think there is room for a few more groups if they put more thought into it. There are also some wasted opportunities to connect characters that they don't take advantage of. For example, if the idol event wasn't about making a new timeline for it, but about a group of girls in the main timeline becoming idols for a one-time event. Then we could get a less relevant group of girls who will likely never become idols again (there's no room for that in the setting), but still have the bond of experiencing that event together.
>>4280003>random ass picksLike I said, there was a theme. It was just not strong. Those girls mostly fit the "different types of beauty" theme. Niina, Miya, Maria and Tsukasa are all traditionally pretty. Chiroru was only in there to drive home the theme of "you can be proud of your scars and imperfections" and Irene was there for the detective mystery joke.>one time idol eventI genuinely would hate a main timeline idol event with all my heart. The Aoi event being an AU that is intentionally stupid and silly was the only way to make that work. The fact that that event wrenched an emotional reaction out of me with the IchiAo stuff is a miracle.
My feelings about a 31E event is that I want more Oshima family. It feels like they want to spread them out more and that's fair, but I feel like there are still a lot of dynamics between the sisters that aren't explored. Even outside the yuri potential.Right now we got these dynamics focused on:Ichiko + everyoneMuua + everyoneNiina + IsuzuThat's not enough. Give me more dynamics between the sisters. Isuzu + Yotsuha, Minori + Niina.
>>4280007I'd... not go so far and say that the idol Aoi event "worked". The cover music was funny (and bad), but that was that.I'm not sure who this event targeted, because I actually do like Aoi and consider the first swimsuit event as the best one. Even before the Adel Mari one, which I'm quite a fan of myself as well. (the others sucked as far as I'm concerned though)
>>4280714Why are you such a bastion of bad taste and dumb takes? I can ignore you thinking there was nothing good in the idol event, Aoifags are all waifufags anyway, so IchiAo makes you uncomfortable and as you skip all events that dont interest you anyway you have no clue about all the references in that event.But pretending Swimsuit 1 is somehow really good, let alone the best swimsuit event is laughable. How much of an Aoifag can you be? Literally every other swimsuit event is miles better, despite all of them having dumb swimsuit power based plots. Swimsuit 2 is a mixed bag, but its highs at least are very high, unlike Swimsuit 1. Swimsuit 3 is just overall better. Swimsuit 4 at least had a real point and was a lot funnier than Swimsuit 1 (whose only redeeming quality was comedy in the first place).
So close! Next week I can finally level up an SS again. It really always takes like half a year.
This is Sharo on Ruka in case someone didnt recognize her.
>>4280720I mean... not everyone who has a bad opinion does so because they are a waifufag. Are you sure you aren't projecting something on the anon?
Barely noticed SA 1 hour before rule change. Didn't even touch the event yet. I think I'm losing interest.
>>4281582Anything else you want to share with us? What you had for lunch or how your day at work sucked?You know most F2P players on longform games take breaks. You do something else for a few months and let content accumulate. Treating a game like a weekly grind is something that makes it lose its luster. You're not forced to play something the moment it comes out. Events run an entire month and are also archived. You aren't missing out time sensitive content (except for unison styles).If you really are this burned out just wait for chapter 5.2.
The KuraMona artist really is a trooper. Never giving up on making art for the ship.
Strongest Lolita is indeed a boss level opponent.
https://twitter.com/totokage_gozaru/status/1829511164621185290Oh wow. I knew Yuina had special voicelines for the Summer Fairy final boss, but I wasn't aware this happened as early as Maru-chan in the U140 event. I guess back then I didn't have her SS yet. I do remember Hisame having different voicelines in her event, but I never ulted...
Bitches love electroshock therapy.
>31A > 31B > 31C > 31F > Tezuka???
>>4282391Someone is trying to keep us on our toes.
Oh, it's September already.
>>4282686That close-up of A-san shows that the artist can actually draw well, but the general style of these 4koma is always so basic.
Ichiko: "Isuzu..."Ichiko: "Even if you don't do this I will still be yours...?"
This artist really has been consistently good.
Maki: "That was such a weak Cancer!"Maru-chan: "Ah! They are spilling out!"Maru-chan: "Kurosawa, why aren't you ashamed at all?!"Maki: "Haha, as the head of my gang I can't blush from something like this."Chiroru: "Maruyama-san already left over there."Chiroru: "I-It's embarrassing, isn't it?"
This must be the prequel to that pic where Isuzu saves Ichiko from her marriage and burns her wedding dress.... even if that was an entirely different artist!
Oho the next Star Raid boss was announced. Looks a bit like Praying Eel... right into my trauma!This time they even warn ahead of time that it will require a lightning party, which is probably why they have kept putting up lightning gachas for a month now.
Next style tease. Kinda basic, huh.
>>4283272School uniform or idol outfit. Either way a miss.
>>4283272Probably the loli squad
>>4283279Considering both Tenne and Kanata got school uniforms that's actually entirely possible.
>>4283279>>4283280Could be Hisame because of that classic Japanese red braided thingy.
Considering this is one of the off-banners that isn't connected to anything it has a higher chance of some unpopular characters getting a chance. Which means the missing SS2s are coming into view. The only characters in the game without SS2s are:Carole, Fubuki, Shiki, Minori, IrohaI think we can rule out Carole and Shiki for sure due to the bust size. This doesn't look like a Fubuki outfit at all, but we already know WFS is incapable of understanding their characters' strong suits and give them random dumb shit, so we can't rule her out.If this is a loli squad thing then this can only be Hisame. Vrittika and Murayama got styles recently and the latter straight up got a uniform that looks like this. Can't be Bungo, because no claw (should be visible in this pic). Tenne already has a school unifrom and is far ahead in style count.That leaves Yotsuha... and maybe this is actually an Oshima banner with Yotsuha and Minori. I can't rule it out. The pose might even imply either of them (skateboard riding or sitting on something).
>>4283283>Considering this is one of the off-banners that isn't connected to anything it has a higher chance of some unpopular characters getting a chance.Last year's September post-anni off-banner was actually dress Yuki, so in theory it could be Tama too. But for Tama's illustration, it looks too simple, so probably not?
>>4283285Last year's anniversary banners were also on different dates. We can't 1:1 this. And I sure hope they stop giving Tama preferential treatment.
>>4283286>And I sure hope they stop giving Tama preferential treatment.She got her 3rd S two months ago, while Megumi still has only one, I don't think it will stop any time soon.
>>4283287That's the point though, she just got something. Don't give her another one so soon or people will lose their patience.
>>4283290Yuki also got swimsuit S in August then dress SS is September, it's not like they care. I think Tama will get her SS by the end of this year regardless, even if it's not this specific slot, WFS will be physically unable to have a whole year without Tama SS releasing.
>>4283291It's absurd, because their other most popular characters do not get these constant styles. It's a miracle that Aoi and Yuina are only at SS3 and SS4. I guess Ruka technically got to be in Yuina's style this time, so she is at SS5 now with those two half styles.
If it's Hisame, the thing above her hand could be a ribbon, like the red ones in her default.>>4283292I think they really screwed up with her swimsuit SS placement without fully knowing how their future schedule would play out. If it was like>event NY Tama at the end of 2022>fragment suit Tama at the end of 2023>swimsuit MeguTama instead of MeguKaren in 2024it would have felt better paced.By the way, I wonder if she's the next unison candidate. When they released RukaYuki for 5.1, I thought it was based on story, but then they released RukaYuina revealing that it's actually based on popularity, and Tama is, well, popular.
>>4283294>By the way, I wonder if she's the next unison candidateThey played it exceedingly safe by using Ruka in both of them. Protagonists get a lot of slack for this kind of stuff. So I don't think they picked Yuina necessarily to show they aren't going for 31A pairings first, but rather because she is an easy Ruka partner. The only other Ruka unison left now would be either RukaSharo (but we already got an indirect pairing style with wedding Sharo) or I suppose Ruka with any other 31A member, but portrayed non-romantically.In the end the placement of 5.2 will influence things a lot. That chapter is GUARANTEED to give us a new Karen style. Most likely Tsukasa too, catching both of them up to SS5 with the rest of the crew. Making a KareTsuka unison would most likely blockl one of them from getting a new style, which is hard to argue for.If 5.2 comes out at the end of the year then it will be so close to the summer event that I can see them going for a unison, as at the point Tsukasa's slut style will have been quite a while ago and they always mistreat Karen-chan the most in 31A.If the story chapter takes an entire fucking year and comes out in February there will have been enough cooldown to give them individual styles.
This is kind of a sobering thought, but considering what we know, this story can't really have a happy ending, can it?Either everyone dies fighting or everyone keeps existing as hito-narvy for eternity which makes things worse in some way, but I can see that once the war is over and Earth is actually save, the narvy would want to regain their intelligence... and all the hito-narvy would have to give back the bodies.There is really not outcome where these girls can actually stay happy together....
>>4283348>the narvy would want to regain their intelligence... and all the hito-narvy would have to give back the bodies.I'm not sure I follow. Give back the bodies to who? The way I understand it, the hito-narvy are still the same narvy, they don't get hijacked by a separate entity, they brainwash themselves to assume the identity like a doppelganger. E.g. there's no pompom and pompom Ruka, pompom Ruka is still the same pompom, just thinking she's Ruka.
>>4283348I don't see why they would have to return to blob form if they manage to defeat the cancers. They may be more intelligent, but nothing we were shown suggests to me that their personalities were any grander than a human's. Even if they got their blob memories back now, they'd probably think of themselves as a mix of their former blob personality and the human they copied, especially since they've all grown so much as characters since then.
>>4283374>>4283375Did you forget that the military forcefully turned these braindead narvy into humans? Once narvy collectively decide to regain their intelligence and memories, these foreign souls/personalities would have to be ejected.Sure, MAYBE some of them will be fine becoming some weird hybrid beings, but most of them clearly would want to return to being narvy. I definitely see this as the endgame ever since PomPom/Ruka learned that she caused this to happen to her people.Pompom's situation is special, because she is the only narvy in the entire game (from what we know) that naturally copied a human. She is the only one who retained intelligence and thus should have still been herself. But somehow she lost all memories and became Ruka but without most of her human memories too. 5.1 made very clear that the only timeline Pompom remembers is since she arrived on Earth and met the Kyamoris. That means all her memories, while twisted through human Ruka's mind, are 100% her own. None of the other narvy have that.All of this also really fits into Maeda's wirting style. Just remember the entire premise of Angel Beats. Passing on and reincarnation are big parts of his philosophy. Every single seraph member is a dead soul inhabiting an alien. It seems pretty clear that the endgame is have them pass on after they solved their regrets. I think in a way, this is what the monthly events keep doing. They resolve last regrets.
>>4283378>Did you forget that the military forcefully turned these braindead narvy into humans?Imagine if someone will brainwash you into thinking you're a different person with different memories. You will still remain the same human being, even if you think you're a different person now. I don't recall anything from the game that supports the idea that hito narvy are actually a new being that can be ejected, and not just normal narvy that think they're a different being. Do we even know that their method of restoring intelligence wasn't to copy other intelligent species in the first place? It's their natural ability after all.
>>4283382From what very, very little we saw narvy have their own personalities before turning themselves braindead. It makes no sense for them to rely on other lifeforms to regain their former selves.To my understanding they are shapeshifters who can copy other species appearance and memories, but what the military did is clearly unnatural, as the process permanently changes the narvy to the point where it can't repeat the transformation and thus we got "Lost Narvy" as Tezuka calls them. Due to Higuchi we know that hito-narvy made by the military actually contain the soul of the dead human it copies. Is this their natural method of copying people? Does this mean narvy can only copy dead creatures? I have my doubts. I think seraph institute used a very invasive and damagin method by directly implanting narvy with souls against their will (or well braindead narvy have no will to begin with).We need more information, but regardless of the details, every single Seraph member is hijacking a narvy's body right now. That will have to addressed one way or another.
Now that's a real fucking crack ship.
>>4283393The only girl Ruka never flirts with, even in chapter 1. The crackiest of all.
>>4283348>this story can't really have a happy ending, can it?It's Maeda. Which means it's gonna get bad, then very bad and then miraculously happy.>either everyone dies fightingMost probably>narvy would want to regain their intelligenceDoubt it. Navis are hollow, human memories are fake, but the memories of hito-navi are real>and all the hito-narvy would have to give back the bodiesI can see why military would want that, but not from story or hito-navi perspective. Their "foundations" are fake, but they are what they do with it. >>4283405I wonder if there is some hidden reason behind it. Or is it just "same hair color girls can't yuri"
>>4283750>same hair color girls cant yuriWhat is MeguTama?
>>4283750Angel Beats didnt end with a conventionally happy ending because everyone was already dead. The "miracle" was their reincarnations meeting again. >narvy are hollowThey literally suppressed their intelligence and thus their memories and personalities. They obviously had a plan to reverse this, which is why they left their scouts with intelligence to find a peaceful world where they could revert. There would be no point to doing that if the intelligence removal was permanent as Cancer have no reason to attack them anymore. The human souls overwriting the empty vessel right now are not part of them and are like me mind controlling your body without you being able to do anything. What the human soul experiences while using the narvy body doesnt somehow make this the narvy's experience. That's why I called it unnatural. Usually a narvy would still have their intelligence when they copy something. Ruka's situation seems to be special too. >why the military would want thatThey absolutely would not, what are you on about? The seraph squad is their weapon. The military would prefer they never find out what they really are, hence the brainwashing. If narvy regain their intelligence and memories how would they react to what the military did to them? There is no way they would want that outcome.No, I am saying that after the war is over and when narvy regain themselves, it is unethical to keep hijacking their bodies and Maeda would prefer to make dead souls move on.The only outcome where everyone survived or stays is time travel that prevents the war from ever happening and guess what, that will erase all the experiences and relationships we care about. Not a happy ending in my book.
A really minor thing, but I noticed that Chiroru's in-game ult preview has Karen and Megumi in the background and not RukaYuki like every other buffer/healer preview animation they've done before. Wondering why this particular style is different.
>>4283885Theorizing about the ending's details seems pretty useless when there's probably tons of "space magic" info we don't know anything about, both about Navis and Cancers.Just as we recently saw with Megumin's powers, Maeda will just come up with whatever he needs to his purposes, he already used plenty of "magic" to reach a happy ending in his previous more realistic stories, in a sci-fi setting he has even less boundaries, he can make up any rules he want. The ending will probably be decided by some god-like powers Ruka will be revealed to have in the final chapter, I wouldn't be surprised if she can magically revive everyone.>time travel that prevents the war from ever happening This would be pretty cliche, but I can see it happening, probably with a Steins Gate-like after credit scene where we find out that, despite the time reset, the memories of what happened are actually still inside them.
Another one.
Absolutely no idea about this one, can be any character except Byakko and Vriitka.
>>4283906Seems the S shape deflector might be the hint...Sumomo?
>>4283906Two school uniforms? That's so lame.
>>4283906The uniforms seems to be different styles, so maybe they stent from the same unit. Also I'd think if this was Sumomo she would have it hanging off her behind to resemble a cat tail like on her swimsuit.This may seem a stretch, but every Oshima family member except Yotsuha has such a weird cloth/lash/belt hanging from their outfits. Though Isuzu is the only one who had a practical use for it (a bunch of lockpicks).Honestly its too generic to tell tho.
Someone made a good point that the position implies a cannon type seraph. So someone like Risa, Yukki or Higuchi. However I think this could also be someome with a sword seraph simply kneeling. Doesnt look like a scythe type.
So what does everyone think is the squad with the best batting average on events? Surprisingly I think 31A is pretty low. Personally for me it would be between 31X and 30G. They basically never miss.
>>4283906Clearly Byakko. About time.
>>4283885>The "miracle" was their reincarnations meeting again.See, miracle. And that's not accounting for afterlife and life after afterlife. It could have been fucking nothing, nihil!>They literally suppressed their intelligence and thus their memories and personalities.And nothing indicates they would eventually have them back. The "deal" was you continue living, but give up on everything that constitutes life. >human soulsI would argue that there are no human souls inside navis. That was the point of both 4.2 and 5.1 Megumin and Ruka both understand that they are not original Megumin and Ruka, that they are just impostors. Originals are long dead and play-pretend won't bring them back.> Usually a narvy would still have their intelligence when they copy something. Ruka's situation seems to be special too.Yes, Ruka's navi was special because it is the only navi that made a deliberate choice to shapeshift. Others are mindless.>The military would prefer they never find out what they really are, hence the brainwashingI meant after the war. Military won't be particularly keen on having aliens mix and infiltrate human society. From hito-navi perspective reverting back is like being lobotomized, even worse.>unethical to keep hijacking their bodiesIt's an awful truth that needs to be accepted, learned and moved on. The point of 4.1 was (repeatedly) that they are no humans, but not navis either. Its their time they've been hito-navi and the bonds they make that define their "self". No way they would just give that up.>time travelThat I agree upon. But it's not predetermened yet
>>4284162You really went out of your way to ignore every explanation I gave. Sigh...1. Explain to me why narvy needed to flee to a safe new planet after lobotimizing themselves. Cancer feed on intelligence that was the entire point. If narvy are now save from being prey, why did they need to find a new world? The scouts searching could have taken decades to find something, so dont even use the in excuse that Cancer might have destroyed whatever planet they were on. There was clearly no time pressure. This means that logically speaking, the end goal is to regain their intelligence in a peaceful place without Cancer. It was a stop gap measure. 2. Yes, we have confirmation of souls being involved. Have you entirely missed the point of Higuchi's backstory in 5.1?3. Ruka's narvy being special is not about her copying someone willingly, at least my point wasnt only about that. I am saying something unnatural happened with her too, as she lost all her narvy memories and also didnt properly copy Ruka's memories 30 years ago when she replaced her. Something clearly abnormal happened in that transformation.
Finally finished the event. It's okay if only short. I definitely see the potential for Maki x Chiroru but only in a fanmade area.>>4278488
Also WFT is this?
>>4284384>>4284385I assume that you left the event and loaded it back in, so the cat's main menu appearance is stil in the backlog.
>>4284381That ranking isnt too bad actually. I will never agree with putting Sharo or Ichiko's even that low, but other than that it's an alright list. I understand that no matter how good the writing of an even is, if the characters dont click with someone the event can be wasted on them.What I really wonder is what you saw in Chapter 3 that puts it so high? Outside of the final two days it doesnt have much to offer does it? Obviously I enjoyed all the Kura parts, but the padding for everything else is real.
>>4284396>what you saw in Chapter 3 that puts it so high?I was thinking about putting it in okay tier. But last two days are crucial to the story and I guess I liked SoL bonding with 30G and inside 31A. Also helped by smooth transition to 4.1. Didn't actually like Ruka-Kura parts though.>>4284354>1. Convincing. Okay, more likely that they planed to reverse lobotomy. 2 points. One, what would they do without volunteered scouts? Initial plan was to stay on their homeworld and only proto-Ruka who willingly took on a mission brought the rest to Earth. Two, do you think they just have some trigger to turn off/on intelligence? Suppose they find new planet to live on and revert back. Cancers are not gone, eventually they will find navis again and then what, turn off again?>2.Except Higuchi doesn't know a single thing about souls. She thinks she does and thinks that her empathic disinterest is her own karma. It's just a legacy of broken psyche and memories of original Higuchi. But we DO have someone very knowledgeable about souls. Koju. And what does she say? Not a single soul on base, no soul of Aoi too. Only wandering ones.>3.Indeed. One could wonder if we'll see original Ruka again. In some other anime she would be the dark queen of cancers or messianic figure.
>>4283294>By the way, I wonder if she's the next unison candidate.I actually had a strange realization about unisons. Even though they positioned Yuina as a half-anniversary thing, it was only around 4 months away from Ruka. And it's been already 2 months since them. So hypothetically, we could get the next unison as early as late October/early November. There's a "1000 days since release" milestone in November, they could use that. And then between that and the 3rd anniversary, they have 4 months again.
>>4284620Who do you expect first SharoRuka or AoiRuka?
>>4284621If I were them, I'd do something non-Ruka. Because even though people mostly liked Yuina's unison, from what I saw, the general sentiment about the possibility of every unison being Ruka-related wasn't all that bright. Anyway, they still haven't released Aoi and Tama this year, so if they want to do it, they'll probably choose one of them. If there is 5.2 around that date (which I'm starting to doubt at this point), then Tsukasa might also be an option.
What is the point of reposting all this 2 year old art.
>>4284652There is none. That anon (or rather a bot) just posts whatever gets uploaded to danbooru's HBR yuri tag. Yeah we posted all these arts before, but we are on page 9 anyway, so its not like its a problem.
>>4284585>doesnt like the best part of chapter 3, still elevates it for no reasonStranger things have happened I guess.
>>4284585>can they just turn intelligence on/offThey seem to be hyperadvanced aliens who can literally wormhole across solar systems and shapeshift, I dont think this is too out there. As long as the scout gives them the signal or trigger or whatever it might really be that easy. But because Ruka forgot her narvy memories she has no way of doing that. >but Cancer could attack that world tooThe idea was to find a safe place, Cancer clearly take quite a while to spread on a planet as we got told by Tezuka explaining how Cancer arrived on earth. It took a good 20 years before they started attacking full force. More than enough time to move on to the next planet, should there be one.>Higuchi doesnt know what she is talking about lolStop being a retard. She is literally one of the most knowledgable characters on Seraph research and narvy in the story. She knows how the transformation process works you dumbass. When she says its like reincarnation of the soul there is literally no reason to doubt it. It's like you going "Nuh-uh awakened Tsukasa was just confused when she claimed everyone in the Seraph squad is a narvy" before Tezuka confirmed it. Have some sense instead of making shit up.But lets pretend you didnt pull this out of your desperate ass, why do you think th narvy transformation used by the military requires the human subjct to DIE? you see, before 5.1 we assumed that they use dead girls so there wouldnt be any doppelgangers that could cause confusion and reveal the secret. Why would they need dead people if they just use DNA samples after all?No, Higuchi, a high ranking Seraph institute scientist, had to commit suicide so that the narvy could transform into her. What does this imply? That something that only appeara after death was transplanted into the narvy... like a soul.>will we see origin Ruka againIf nothing else we need a flashback to see what actually happened to her.
>>4284750PS: As for Koju, for all we know souls used for hito-narvy transformations immediately pass on after being released. Koju has never actually seen any Seraph member die. Aoi died on the transport back to the base, as she didnt turn back to narvy in front of 31B.
The new styles are Inori and Hisame. HBR.quest already has them uploaded.
>>4284754Hisame is the ice resistance removal. They really passed on all the pretty, cool, or fun looking styles and gave it to this instead.
>>4284754Hisame gets the ice resistance removal.Inori gets the first skill that spends all SP she has up to 30SP since Sharo. Also a 0SP buff. Honestly she is way more interesting.
>>4284756HisaIni getting high school outfits is pretty lame, yeah. Especially because Hisame's backstory literally proves she never went to school.But it is really funny how she is clearly a kendo club member like Inori, but still uses a gun. It's even funnier in this setting lolAlso anything's better than maid and catgirl pajama Hisame....
The balancing team's character bias is so obvious. You can really feel the amount of thought they put into these styles kits compared to Maki who just got random shit with a style that was powerecreep before it released.
>>4284763At least Maki's outfit was way more imaginative. Probably one of the best looking styles and ults in a while.
The patch notes say that the unique skills/passives will only be given to 7 characters at first, it's not for everyone from the start. So it'll probably turn out like the tower upgrades where the later characters get much better stuff compared to the earlier ones as they get more eager to do stronger things.
>normal ice debuffer exists>permanent ice debuffer exists>resistance ice debuffer existsUhh, is Megumi going to get the ice big field as well? I was thiniking it was odd when they gave her such a specialized field passive.
>>4284770I dont think the point of the unique passive is to be "strong". They are supposed to reflect the character's unique traits. Like how is Sharo getting buffed with Ruka in the party particularly viable? Obviously its just flavor.
>>4284772That just means Sharo got unlucky with the passive. Even among the 3 they previewed. there's a clear difference between Muaa(generates SP for free if hit, always useful), Megumi(gives SP to 31A, less versatile, how good it is depends on SP cost) and Sharo(super niche and barely useful). I see the master skill gacha in the new gacha list, it seems that the characters who got it are Ruka, Megumi, Bungo, Ichigo, Kura, Risa and Muua, so they still have time to rethink Sharo's one.
>>4284773I assume that they are all extremely minor bonuses in general so that it doesnt matter. For in die example, let's say Muua gets 1 SP when getting hit. That really make almost no difference especially because you dont want Muua in the front line all the time. Megumin sacrificing her own SP when she is already a total SP burner makes little sense outside of niche situations. You get the idea. Some passives may be more generally useful but they arent intended to be game changers.
These styles feel underwhelming.Inori needs to be charged to get +1 sp per turn, but her self charge costs 6, so you never get that back, and there's only one (uno) character in the game reasonably playing in thunder, which is base Yanagi, who can charge her. But that's quite a big chain to wear, especially because she can self charge anyways and thunder aoi is such a good main dps + sustain in ST thunder teams.Her 0 cost skill can only be used as of 20 SP, which is really fucking retarded. If the multiplier isn't REALLY busted at 30sp (and increases the destruction rate as well), she is worse than Byakko until lb3. Hisame is by far the worst of the weakness creators right now. No access to debuffs other than aoe def down, aka no fragile. Needs 30 sp (and 2 turns) to set it all up. It feels so bad compared to Sharo who can go into -sp and has both fragile and elemental def down and Tsukasa who's hit buff isn't just extremely powerful, but also extremely OD building (especially with dark Aina).The only one that can help is Miya, but then you have two strict debuffers in your team, and try making a good team with that. Plus Miya's SP needs are gigantic, if you wanna use her 5 cost amplifier, and even without that it's suit Megumi (dark) tier.DPS, Mari (buff), seira/lolita, sustain is mandatory, but the moment you need something on top (i.e. a blaster if your DPS is an attacker, especially if you want to use Mari as an attacker so you can use Tama as a buffer without losing ice field) it falls apart. Or you need a second sustain. Or want to play Yuri/Akari.Double pure debuffer is something that is used in dark, if you can run it, but often the reality is: You can't. And dark has extreme OD generation, which ice lacks.So, solo Hisame it is. With no fragile. With the need for od2 for SP reasons. I'll be frank. Ouch.
Character skills;Ruka: Status up based on the amount of characters you memory restored(capped at +20)Megumi: Gives 3Sp for 1 SP cost to 31A, basically an advanced SP orb. I assume she can use it on herself too.Muua: +1 SP when hit, but only once a turn.Ichigo: Once a fight if you're in vanguard and broken, restore full DP.Kura: If in vanguard at the start of the battle, creates a "rice field", 40% damage + regen every turn.Bungo: Bubble destroyer, 12 sp skill, a pierce critical dp 50% ult level attack, can only be used if db is less than 50%Risa: 8sp skill. heals all allies and puts them in a babyfied state for 3 turns(+30% damage and +20% od generation)This is so insanely unbalanced from character to character that I couldn't believe what I was seeing and waited for another source to confirm it.
>>4284784ok... I stand corrected. Some of those are actually SUBSTANTIAL. Like goddamn, Ichigo, Megumin and Risa.I dont know what "status up" means for Ruka, but potentially really good for long time players.
>>4284781I'm baffled that they gave her normal aoe def on it. That's the weakest effect you can realistically have on a skill like that. They probably wanted her to stack perfectly with ice Miya, but designing the essential member of the element around the easily replaceable one is kinda cringe.
>>4284785>I dont know what "status up" means for Ruka+All stats, like what you get from Koju's morale or some healers fighting spirit effect. I don't know if it stacks with those effects, morale and fighting spirit don't stack, but this is a passive, so it probably should.
>>4284784Some stuff here does raise questions. For in example did they actually record babu voicelines for ALL playable characters in the game just for that passive?I get what most of these are going for, but what does DP revival have to do with Ichigo? She never really had a fighting past her limits moment. That's more accurate to Maki or 31X to be honest.And Bungo's skill is just her SS1 ult but weaker? Why?>>4284789If its really good I can forgive it, because the protagonist should have something that stands out and you actually need to earn it. 20 fully restored people isnt something you grind in a week.
>>4284750>When she says its like reincarnation of the soul there is literally no reason to doubt it.Then what was the fucking point of 4.1? If it's really just reincarnation then why bother with self-identity, what's real-what's not, memory questions? Seraph project is just a second chance in life, without awful truth or strings attached, no point of distinguishing between originals and hito-navi. It literally kills the main conflict of the story.
>>4284797Wrong. These are borrowed bodies on borrowed time. They are not humans, they are just copies tied to the original's soul. There is more to being Aikawa Megumi than having her soul. Just like sinply having all her memories wasnt enough to make her the same person before this reveal.Remember the most important message of 4.1? It was when Yukki cheered up Ruka and said "I dont know whether your skills are just an imitation, but your music has SOUL. That is the real deal." Yukki basically said what really matters. They might ve physically and mental copies, but they still have human souls. That's what gives them their essence and will.The fact that Tezuka said its all DNA which makes no sense because that alone could never let someone copy memories, makes me think she is either hiding the soul thing or doesnt know about it. That's why the identity crisis didnt factor that in.
Stream started. Hope they show off the new passives so we can understand them better.
Megumi's cap + megumi's mask + face mask to go full Megumin mode
At least the ults look cool this time.
>>4284799>original's soulThat's the problem. Non-human bodies, tempered memories don't matter (especially with the potential benefit of immortality and eternal youth, just saying).>Yukki cheered up RukaYes, that's the point, she cheered her by saying that Ruka has a soul, not the soul. Ruka-navi is her own soul, and Yuki is the one who enables it, their time together that guaranteed to be only their own. The memories original Ruka never possessed. Not only it makes for perfect resolution, it is so, so very yuri. >Tezuka, DNA makes no sensePlease, it's not like this game is 100% scientifically accurate. It might be a simplification. After all navi consumes the dna, but copies the bodies as they were, even dna-unrelated stuff. Plus I'll take her word over Higuchi's. She did study what happens after hito-navi death after all.
The gameplay showcases are so weird recently, They don't even try to actually showcase the new styles strong points anymore.
>>4284814So to summarize, you dont understand why being a hito-narvy sucks, is not permanent and still makes them copies because you refuse to use your brain.Furthermore you just ignore what was said in favor of your fantasies and didnt understand the point of 4.1. Do you think Megumin being able to contact her higher self, LITERALLY a concept about reincarnated souls was also just a metaphor?And finally you claim the non-scientist who has never worked with the narvy project knows better than the scientist directly and intimately involved with the whole process. And on top of that you 100% ignored my question as to why Higumin had to commit suicide to achieve transformation.Fucking hell you arent even worth discussing anything with, because you are so surface and constantly skip facts.
It's the dune worm for star raid... oh the trauma from hard mode...>>4284818They never did though.
The worm fight looks like absolute fucking cancer
>>4284821You will never believe this, but it actually is. A Cancer.
Interesting there are actual requirements to unlocking those new skills.
>you actually have to use a skill slot for them Really? Couldn't they just give it for free as a special thing?
>>4284831Tsukasa's new passive skill from her new swimsuit also had to be equipped. Honestly makes sense though considering how OP some of these are. Not to mention it will encourage people to use awakening more often.
>>4284770I feel like it's already happened behind the scenes. Ruka, Megumi, Muua, Sharo were probably some of the first characters they came up with, their abilities are very simple and straightforward. Then it began >what if we give a character a field that heals>what if we give a character a full party heal with 2 buffs
10-35GB wtf??? I hope this isn't new data and just their usual secretly remove and redownload crap. But if it's a unity update... They can't be serious
>>4284841Yes, they said it will replace stuff.
>>4284819Please excuse my little brain. In order for my retarded self to understand your point I'd like you to answer one basic question, if you please.Hito-Navi are:A) A reincarnation/copy that uses the soul of the originalsB) A copy that possesses no soul (still can be connected to soul of the original that resides somewhere)C) A copy that has it's own soul>why Higumin had to commit suicide to achieve transformationShe wanted to know what lies beyond death, it's her field of study after all. But to our disappointment she have no memories of what happened between her original's death and becoming a hito-navi. If she does, there was no reason to not reveal it in 5.1. And then most questions would be undeniably answered.
>>4284852From everything we know it is most likely that narvy get implanted with the souls of dead girls after their death to forcefully transform the narvy. An invasive process that apparently leaves them unable to transform again, thus making them Lost Narvy.This is why death is necessary for the process and this is why soul linked things like karma, Higher Self and a spiritual powers persist in hito-narvy.>she wanted to know what lies beyond deathYes genius, and what does it mean if she thought she could remember what is beyond death as a hito-narvy? That she assumes the soul who passes on would retain that info when injected into the narvy. If she did NOT believe that becomi g hito-narvy directly continues her the existence and it just copies her memories than you basically have to assume she was just willing to kill herself at any time and the fact that she became a narvy basis was completely incidental and she didnt care what happens to the copy. Look, stop fronting. Nothing abouz Higumin's backstory makes sense if souls arent involved. And your only counter-argument has been that this stupid dumb in expert on the topic just doesnt know what she is talking about. Seriously...
Since when do characters talk when you click on their profile? Was it added recently?
>>4284855Okay. Souls of originals reside within navi. Before I go into more conclusions who is controlling hito-navi? It's navi, right?>than you basically have to assume she was just willing to kill herself It's a little like the situation with Tsukasa. When she was captured she didn't assumed she would survive. She figured out that her revenge will be done regardless, even if she is dead, even if it's done not by her, but someone identical to her.In Higumin's case the result of her experiment, the knowledge of beyond death would be produced, even if it's not her doing it.But. It's just how I see it. It doesn't mean it's right. And before discussing this further I'd like your clarification on who in your opinion controls hito-navi.
>>4284905You mean in the Stamp collection menu? Since this week.
>>4284907That question is too stupid... stop trying to find loopholes. I already know where you are going and I explained why you ate wrong. Dont bother going in circles with me.>Higumin's experiment would be completed by someone similat to herNo, you massive moron, how did you ignore my explanation in the last post AGAIN?? How would Higumin think the hito-narvy can remember what happens beyond death if it only copied HER memory?? There is no memory post death! The only way this could even be conceivable is if the soul retains the information and Higumin assumed it would be transfered. She also made zero inidcation that she would fine with dying and not finding out herself.What you "see" is not consistent. Not with the story or your own logic.
>>4284910Why? It's the most important question. You can't have a cohesive picture without it. I'm not arguing because I want to "win" or something equally stupid. I'm arguing to figure out how it all works.>HiguminSo. Memory beyond death doesn't exist. And it's essentially the same Higumin, but with damaged karma and using borrowed body. Right?
>>4284919You dont get it. I'm annoyed because you make me repeat myself. Read the previous posts again. Figure it out, I told you everything already. Unless you have something actually new to add I'm done with the topic.
Are we actually getting an Isuzu event in 2 weeks? >>>/vmg/1560002 One expression is too little to say for sure, but that's all we got, I think.
>>4284929Surprisingly cry sprites have a good track record of foreshadowing events.On the other hand any Oshima event can get more Oshima expressions. Or memory episodes.
It was Sumomo's birthday, but as she has no pairing, you will just have to deal with the best power couple in the story.
FLEreverse (who also translated most of the story on youtubte, see OP) has translated the new personal skill slides https://www.youtube.com/@flereverse/communityKura's new passive is an actual field, which lasts indefinitely apparently. And it can cancel out Dune Worm's sandblast skill the first time it uses it.Some of these unlock conditions are wildly disproportionate to the actual usefullness of the skills.
>>4285132>RukaPretty good. Equal to 20 levels if I'm not mistaken and easy to get.>MeguminEh? It kinda can be useful in theory, but wasting a slot on this?>IchigoUseful, also like thematically the fact it's the same thing LB3 Aoi gives.>MuuaMust have. >KuraNice. I like unique things.>BungoNo. Fuck off, not worth manually doing arena solo 121 times.>RisaDepends. The fuck does it mean increases the power of skill? Is it another multiplactive damage increase? Does it make debuffs and buffs stronger? How much? Also 328 heals? Well, fans and dedicated ones will eventually unlock this...Also! These new styles are yuri! I fucking finally found the connection! Inori's style is called Summer-something Lapis Lazuli and Hisame's Summer-something Garnet. And they have thiese cords. Hisame's blue and Inori's Red. Their woven cords are refering or belonging to each other! Yuri! Honestly don't know if they are being nice with this detail or testing how small crumbs are enough to be appropriated by yurifags.
Hi, finally found a HBR discussion thread. I've been translating stuff for myself (as somewhere between JLPT N2-N3) and and wondered if there were more of you out there, so hi. I really love Aoi and also Koju and her event, and big fan of Sugayan's cutesy-feisty gap and of RukaxYuki naturally.>Story discussion Wow, exciting. I'm on chapter 4 day 2 so I just learned the crazy stuff.>>4284799>The fact that Tezuka said its all DNA which makes no sense because that alone could never let someone copy memoriesIn reality, it's been confirmed that certain memories can be encoded into DNA, and that neurons break apart and mend DNA in the memory formation process, although we're far from knowing much about those subjects. Just wanted to add info.>>4284162>I would argue that there are no human souls inside navis. That was the point of both 4.2 and 5.1 Megumin and Ruka both understand that they are not original Megumin and Ruka, that they are just impostors.Remember what happened after Aoi died, from the Navii's perspective? It didn't happen with Kura-senpai, but if they don't have souls then there's no explanation for that. Factor that in with the fact that you have Lost Navii and can't have multiple of the same Human-Navii, it's easy to support the idea that they have souls. There was also the swimsuit event with the haunted house. Wasn't that really about Aoi's soul?
>>4285203Hello! Are you native to /u/? Anyway, welcome. I'll try to explain what's going on, at least from my point of view. But as we see, people here have different ideas. So, think for yourself what you believe is true.>but if they don't have souls then there's no explanation for thatFrom my perspective they do have a soul, but it's not the soul of the original. It's either the soul of navi or what I see as plausible, a completely new entity. When Aoi was copied by navi it inherited her traits and absolute memory that resisted memory detirioration. It was possible because when human form died the soul remained within navi (whichever this soul is).>Lost Navii and can't have multiple of the same Human-NaviiHonestly have no clue how to explain this from "other soul" perspective. And this question really pushes towards the theory of original soul. But I just remembered that I do have evidence that navis don't have souls of originals (or at least it's not the thing that controls a hito-navi). However it's a chapter 5.1 territory and very spoilery. And I'll need to make two screenshots to prove the point. So, tell me when you read it and ready to discuss.
>>4285219>Hello! Are you native to /u/?Hi! I'm a lurker mainly, but always been around /u/ and yuri related spaces like Assault Lily, MadoMagi, MariMite, etc.>>4285219>Honestly have no clue how to explain this from "other soul" perspective. And this question really pushes towards the theory of original soul. But I just remembered that I do have evidence that navis don't have souls of originals (or at least it's not the thing that controls a hito-navi). However it's a chapter 5.1 territory and very spoilery. And I'll need to make two screenshots to prove the point. So, tell me when you read it and ready to discuss.Oh I see, alright! Do you have any comment on Aoi's "appearance" during the haunted house event? I don't really know about "original soul", but my real world belief is that maybe all "soul" or "spirit" by itself are of the same "qualities" which enables activation and interfacing with a sufficient life container (a DNA-based living body or Human-Navii with a, in reality, what would be described as a physical structure sufficient for quantum tunneling, entanglement and light multidimensionality--neural microtubules as needed for complex higher processes such as consciousness), so.. well, in a rephrase, maybe a human body + well formed brain is like a radio with an antenna which is tuned to a specific frequency (soul frequency), and when it picks up that broadcast (soul), then "song of life" can cut through the static noise and be perceived as "music". It feels like Human-Navii is just "another properly tuned radio", and maybe there's a handshake and ping pong back and forth authentication to make the connection exclusive, so there can't ever be two Human-Navii of the same stored individual... but yeah, I shouldn't say too much more on this without reading through Chapter 5. Thanks for being considerate!
>>4285168>small crumbsEh, I don't think it's anything like that. Ruka openly stated her attraction to girls pretty early in the story, and there was Kura-senpai admitted her feelings about Tsukishiro-senpai in her last moments, and there was "Ruka-kun" taking Aoi out on a literal date and having their sentimental moment under the stars together, and even beyond then there's so so so so much other yuri-affirming material. Even Hisamecchi also clearly likes being teased by Ruka who's gushing over how cute she is. And there's all the Ruka x Yuki stuff. There's really no doubt at all. Anyone complaining about how the "damn yurifags are making everything woke" or ruining gacha games or whatever else they say really has to do some Olympic gold medal level mental gymnastics to dismiss the open yuri in HBR.
>>4285168>The fuck does it mean increases the power of skillIt's how they call basic attack up/enhance in jp skill descriptions. They throw it like candy at everything recently.
>>4285168>Eh? It kinda can be useful in theory, but wasting a slot on this?I think they should either increase the amount of uses(it's 31A-only anyway), or increase the amount of SP given if it remains one use. The current skill is not bad, but it's just so basic for a special "master skill".
>>4285203Anon... you are only in 4.1. You shouldnt be reading plot discussions here. We are all caught up to 5.1.
>>4285307Anon... they meant crumbs for "pair styles" like HisaIno's here, not that all of HBR is just yuri crumbs.
>>4285322The only way this skill would be unique and useful in its current state is if she could give the SP without using up a turn. Like you can just give SP and the one whose SP is increased can still select a move afterwards. That is something that we haven't done in the game yet and can be situationally useful. Like if Ruka has 13SP for her 15SP ult, Megumin can let her instantly use it instead. Right now this skill is vastly inferior to Muua's SS2 ult which gives 5 SP, restores DP and restories ult uses.I hope WFS reworks it.
>>4285219> But I just remembered that I do have evidence that navis don't have souls of originalsNo you don't. You have failed to give any such evidence during out entire discussion, while having literally no answer to any of my proof.After you can explain how Higumin's backstory, Megumin's Higher Self, Koju's spiritual powers, Aoi's soul appearing in Swimsuit 1 and any of the other things I mentioned work in your theory you can't just keep dodging to another point. There is way too much proof of soul involvement across the entire story.
>>4285132>Oshimaya 600k pointsAHHHHHHHHHHHHBecause the last time I played the event I was doing the normal ending, my score is at 300k.I never thought my reset would actually cost me that achievement.... Goddammit. Guess I will be doing Oshimaya again...
The superworm is in fact Cancer. That debuff that makes all DP instantly break if it has its damage field active is pretty rough. I mean it's a cool gimmick, but it really sucks to actually deal with.Can't even beat EX+1.
>>4285355When I first played this game (when the Steam version launched), I had a completely baseless and vague hypothesis which was based off of feelings, the presentation of the story, the nature of the garden of memories, and even the cover art for their music uploads. I said to myself, "it seems like everyone's been dead for a long time". Imagine my surprise when I got around to playing this game again and just completed chapter 3 the other day. tl;dr I kind of self spoiled via intuition...
>>4285392If you know Maeda's writing style that plot twist isn't completely unexpected. But especially these days there are like a million hints in events and interactions that make it possible to figure out before chapter 3, which is kinda funny.Ultimately of the two big twists the fact that they are all dead is probably the one you can't figure out as easily. Everyone being narvy is a possibility that is much easier to guess from the end of chapter 2, although not necessarily the only option at that point. A lot of people figured that dead Seraph members turn into narvy, kinda like a fragment of their soul or being left behind due to the use of Seraph. But the revelation that they were all narvy from the start is still a pretty obvious possibility.So you are clearly behind on the story, but what about sub-stories/monthly events? You only mentioned Koju's so I don't know how deep you are in there. From your posts I figure you barely touched them.
https://x.com/ltj_ev/status/1831921786319204717There's a special funny interaction when Megumi uses her master skill on Tama. Also, the cast animation is so cool, they need to add more psychic-based skills.
>>4285400>animationsI love how Kura's skill actually grows a rice field when it triggers. They actually put some effort in these.
>>4285395I've done a few, like the summer Haunted House, Requiem for the Blue, and Supported by Higher Self, and the one with the clingy Russian girl having survivors guilt. I've been self translating so anything I can't understand via voice which I don't know the kanji for (e.g. words spoken too fast or not clearly), I end up studying. It's a bit slow, but I have been able to understand well enough to summarize stuff while streaming for friends... but yes, I'm far from current. As a side note I'm pretty good at brainwashing myself out of remembering spoilers.
>>4285400Biri biri.... they really are doing their electrocution play on the battlefield?
>>4285405>isn't even in fucking 4.2 >does the event that specifically tells you to finish 4.2 firstHoly shit I hate WFS for allowing idiots to do this. Instead of "brainwashing" yourself out of forgetting spoilers, play the damn events in the correct order. Spoilers aside, the pay-off is completely lessened if you play shit you don't understand early.This is genuine advice, from here on actually heed the warnings and don't just play events willy-nilly.
>>4285405>>4285407To add to that, we have a play order suggestion list in the OP>>4267563https://pst.innomi.net/paste/8y5bwofdz5s8h7zyuqfu4nqrI would recommend any new player to consider using either of them.
>>4285407>>4285408Okay I will, thank you! And sorry for being slightly retarded. I promise I'm not doing it on purpose...
>>4285409In case you just didn't notice, when you click on an event it will give you a list of things you should complete first. It's one of the screens you click through before you can start it. So even if you don't use our list, just pay attention to that.Also you are far from the only one who did this. A lot of streamers I watch don't pay attention to the warnings either and spoiled themselves or did events that made no sense without context.It's really WFS fault for not properly locking events behind the correct chapter. Half the events in in the chapter 1 requirement section should be played MUCH later. Especially all the swimsuit events.
>>4285411Ah... well I'm not very smart to begin with. I feel like the warnings are easy to miss, especially when there are a fair number of other warning pop ups which are insta skip. >half the events in the chapter 1 requirement section should be played much later...it's that bad? I don't remember seeing any warnings for those.
>>4285415All the swimsuit events except the Aoi one (which is properly locked behind chapter 2 anyway) require at least chapter 3 completed, but Higher Self in particular requires 4.2. And yes they absolutely give you warning for those.But why just give a single warning screen instead of fucking locking the events behind the chapters they are actually relevant to? Who the fuck benefits from playing Summer Fairy before beating chapter 3? Why would you ruin people's experience of chapter 4.2 by letting them play Higher Self this early?It's just stupid. WFS makes a lot of questionable decisions, but as far as these threads are concerned we universally agree that these events being available early is the worst transgression.
>>4285132>those requirementsThis feature may as well not exist then. Next batch will likely have much less BS, because the amount of people interacting with this will be less than 0.1%.On the flipside the new accessories they just give away in the current dimension fight are absolutely bonkers broken compared to existing things.
What the heck just happened? I beat the hard boss with the 3 tickets and I got no reward currency?? Is it because I used the debuff item to make it easier? Did they seriously change it so you get no more rewards for beating it that way? I got my tickets back too...
>>4285477I think you're exaggerating. Most of those conditions are things you easily unlock naturally over time (except Bungo). Right now my biggest struggle is getting characters to level 5 in the stamp menu.Also it's good that these conditions put attention to things some players may not look at usually, like getting the best fish in 4.2's fishing section or beating hard mode Flathand or restoring girls in the Garden of Memories. Even Muua's might make people try the event again to get a better score.
>>4285479lmfao
>>4285480It won't happen. People not liking to fish shouldn't be forced to do it, same goes for that other stuff. And this is not making them suddenly enjoy it. The passives don't exactly matter, so it's whatever, but I'm sure they want people to actually get them, so this won't keep on happening like this. Though who knows. Maybe they don't care, and this is more of a roundabout way of making artificial achievements a thing.
>>4285487Wow, you're real dull in the head, huh? It's not about them not liking it, some people simply aren't even aware certain things exist. Making people try things out helps get more people interested in things. Not to mention that people like rewards for a challenge and none of these are actually super skill based. It's not some unmanagable shit. I despise your retarded completely misled confidence though. "Hurr durr wont happen, this is objectively wrong or bad!" You sound insufferable. I should have known you have no idea what you are talking about when you said "artificial achievements" as if that isn't how all achievements work.
I can understand complaining about Bungo's requirement, that one is actually ass, but fishing? Really?
Okay I took a closer look at the two new styles and I think just like with Amari's swimsuits this is definitely a stealth pair style with some subdued pair elements.General traits:1. They both wear school uniforms, but from different schools. That's because they are swordswomen from different sword schools. I think that's a cute detail.2. Inori's sailor uniform is more often associated with middle-school in pop culture these days, while Hisame's blazer is more associated with high school... hence she is the "senpai" just like in the main timeline.Specific traits:1. Hisame and Inori are both wearing braided bands. Inori wears one like a belt and Hisame around her thigh. They are both there to hold a deflector component, but more importantly they are in each other's colors. Hisame wears Inori's purple braid while Inori wears Hisame's crimson braid (Hisame's name has the character for crimson in it).2. Inori's hair piece and Hisame's keychain thingie are both stylized S symbols. I have no idea what the significance is (other than they are deflector pieces), but they match.3. Socks. Now don't call me crazy yet. Look at the symbols. Inori has the small arrow, but Hisame has the small arrow with the square in it. This basically means Hisame is a level above Inori, which also symbolizes her senpair/master role over her, while still giving them a connection.Bonus:1. The cat keychain on Hisame's kendo suitcase and the sweatband she has both have a cat theme that strongly resembles Hisame's catgirl style.2. I have seen it in Xitter, but as I have neither style I can't confirm it well for Inori, but Hisame's gun and Inori's sword are patterned to look like the Cancer from their events. Hisame's gun is the Cancer that she traumatized and fought with just a sword and Inori's is that Cancer she couldn't behead at first because of self-doubt.3. This might be a stretch, but Inori's choker could reference her SS2 where she also has her outfit tied around her neck.
>>4285515(continued)Whoops, forgot the ribbons they tied around their kendo suitcases. They are also in each other's colors, just like the braided bands.Overall way more thought went into these than people give them credit for, even if I personally find school uniforms lame.
>>4285515Here's the tweet with the weapon/Cancer comparisons.https://twitter.com/Toki_hbr/status/1831688309330080002
I'm dying here, they are actually smiling/looking at each other at the end of the ult. I feel like one of those crazy shippers now who reads too much into everything, but we do know they are intentionally pushing pairings.
>>4285359Okay. One last time. Ruka's navi is special because unlike any other navi it didn't consume the soul of original Ruka. In any other case navi consumed souls of people and that soul gained control over hito-navi body. Right? Is that what you wanted to say?
>>4285528You said that YOU had something that proved YOUR point. Why are you asking ME stuff once again? Holy shit.No I didn't say anything about what happened to Ruka, because we don't know. All I said about that is that something unusual must have happened, because she has no memories of either entity and didn't even back when she copied her, because we saw in the flashback that she was confused why she didnt remember anything about being Kayamori Ruka while also not being aware she was a narvy.
I put Bungo on auto-mode in the arena and it works perfectly fine. You just can't turn the game off. How is this supposed to be a big deal? Even for phone users, they can do this while putting their phone aside or charging it.
>>4285531 Here. If this is not a navi with the disguise of her daughter talking to Hinata here then this whole scene has no sense. Memorydive sequences have no sense. The whole fucking narrative makes no sense.
>>4285543I already explained in great detail why having the soul attached to the narvy does not make that narvy the actual human. They are still just copies, fakes.You never have any proof, you just have "I don't like this so I will stretch to any length to somehow claim it wouldn't make sense" deflections.I gave you several very strong reason why souls are clearly involved and you have not a single counterpoint for them.Then let's approach this from your direction, an emotionla one rather than a logical one. What meaning is there for all these copies with no actual connection to the originals to find closure, to resolve unresolved issues and to grow as people if they are just narvy who will turn back once the story is over? That would make every single event, every single backstory we learned meaningless. That is something that has bothered many people in these threads in the first two years of the game. But if you put the original's soul into the equation it suddenly is actual catharsis. This way it will resolve the regrets of that soul and make moving on easier.While my perspective is that this can't be considered a happy ending because everyone will just have to pass on and all relationships we knew will be gone, at the very least thematicaly it is the better outcome compared to them just being 100% unrelated copies.
As expected, Megumin can use skill on herself like a 2nd sp orb, which is probably the main way this skill will be used contrary to wfs power of friendship expectations.
Either Ruka has two swords because each sword represent a soul (PomPom and OG Ruka) or Maeda will pull a Charlotte twist where Ruka's swords are only PomPom soul materialization and Ruka's true weapon will only be revealed when her original soul either awaken or fuse with PomPom's.
>>4285555Well if you can still use the orb skill too that means she now got two SP raising uses which is cool I guess.>power of friendshipMore like power of fetish for Tama.
>>4285556We already know that the twin swords are PomPom's seraph, because she summoned them to fight the bear long before she ever copied Ruka.This is the entire reason many were confused about how Seraph actually works. It seems to be just the original narvy's weapon. But then why do they reflect the human's personality? That contradiction still needs to be solved.
>>4285549>you just have "I don't like this so I will stretch to any length to somehow claim it wouldn't make senseAnd you use the most comfortable explanation for all the questions we have no answer for yet. >What meaning is there for all these copies with no actual connection to the originals to find closureIt is not meaningless for them. The inherited psyche of their donors is what made a foundation for their personality. You can't just throw it away if you have feelings for it. Of course when they know the truth hito-navis are shocked. But this is what the whole arc of Megumi was all about. Dealing with this situation. Deciding what are you fighting for.>to grow as people if they are just narvy who will turn back once the story is over? Duh, surprise! Everyone dies! Their situation is not so different from ours, we all grow, build relationships, change, but it will all end one day with our death. If anything it makes their story even more relatable.>That would make every single event, every single backstory we learned meaninglessThe same as ours if you have nihilistic approach to life.I guess in the end we'll just have to wait for more information.
>>4285573None of what you say here makes sense or addresses the issue. And you are still totally ignoring every piece of evidence provided in favor of calling the obvious interpretation "comfortable", as if this was not a horrific scenario of killing/taking dead people's souls and forcefully stuffing them into mindless aliens against both parties will to be turned into clueless weapons who think they are human and have a real future, when in fact they are just tools manipulated on every level.Honestly, I don't care anymore. Until you can come up with alternative explanations to all points raised you are simply living in your fantasy.
Now they are releasing 30G Bios. This would have made more sense if they did it before 31F, because 30G is actually after 31C in the style order. This is just weird.
>>4285576>as if this was not a horrific scenario of killing/taking dead people's souls and forcefully stuffing them into mindless aliens against both parties will to be turned into clueless weapons who think they are human and have a real future, when in fact they are just tools manipulated on every level.How about a horrific scenario of dead / killed people staying dead with no chance of closure. And then used as a template for turning mindless aliens into tools of war who eventually find out their whole personality, memories, connections are fake and then have to live on after that somehow, only to be discarded as disposable tool they are after this is over?Same here.
https://youtu.be/RaCTSr8ZtBs?t=13031D when under Risa's master skill. I guess it was easy to implement because they already had the event lines.
>>4285590So it has no special effect on other characters?
>>4285589The point was that the real scenario supported by the facts is not "comfortable" just because it has more eventual catharsis.
Death is not the end of life, but the completion of life.
>>428561431B's motto is kinda fucked up. Especially when you know all the members backstories and fates. Literal assassins, a girl that committed sudoku and a girl that sees the spirits of those who couldn't move on to the after life... and then the girl who died before she could fulfill a promise.It's really morbid.
So I kinda totally forgot about memory episodes because ther weren't any in a while, but we got several at once.First let's get the Chiroru one out of the way. Pretty funny to see just how much she actually does for the movie squad, basically everything!It was just kinda wholesome, but the best part was seeing tiny Byakko again. And that credit roll lolGuess movie squad will forever be small time event fodder. Still cute.
The Hisame and Inori episodes were really good actually.Hisame's was basically dragging Inori on a date and making her share all the things she likes. It was pretty neat, because Inori usually never goes along with anything, but she has a huge level of patience for Hisame. The back and forth lap pillow was great (Inori without being asked to just letting Hisame sleep on her lap was really good). The way Inori used glowsticks like swords was great. And especially Inori blushing at the end when Hisame calls her shy is great.This memo episode really just showed off why they have chemistry and make a good pairing.Inori's memory episode was about... the sword team of all things. I had basically forgotten that group was a thing in Inori's event. But they were actually quite funny. Inorin's teaching style being just like Hisame's where she uses sound effects and doesn't get why normal people can't understand that is hilarious.And once again a HisaIno moment where Hisame at the end is clearly super jealous that Inori is having sword time with othert girls, but plays over it by pretending to be bothered that Inori has more students than her.All around HisaINo goodness.
>>4285515>2. Inori's hair piece and Hisame's keychain thingie are both stylized S symbols. I have no idea what the significance is (other than they are deflector pieces), but they match.Don't know if it's the intention here but S is often used to refer to yuri couple (it's short for sister) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_S_(culture)
>>4285684Class S isn't actually yuri. Class S is the thing yuri kicked into the curb because it sucked. These days old Class S tropes only get used to upend them or defy them, never played straight (pun intended).So no, Class S is not used to refer to yuri couples and if they genuinely made a Class S reference here that would be kind of absurdly out of left field. It would even make more sense if the S stands for Sword.
>>4285687Eh, it has the senpai-kouhai dynamic which kinda fits Hisame and Inori. Though I do think HBR is usually being either more subtle or straightforward with their hints. And like you said S could stand for Seraph or Sword too.
>>4285726Nothing about their dynamic resembles Class S and unless they end up marrying men, this has nothing to do with Class S in general.Please just stick to calling it yuri subtext like the rest of us.
MakiChiro definitely has some staying power for now.
I'm always impressed how resilient NiinAsami is. This ship had literally only two appearances in events and a two small references/hints in two more events. I wonder when the writers will feed us again.
RukaYui unison arts are also always trickling in.
>>4285625Many lives reach their completion whether or not the person themselves feels ready for it, or like they've experienced everything they needed to. I like to think this is why we reincarnate. Perhaps on a soul level, the unfinished business sets up for the next lesson.
>>4285755What's the point of these lessons if with every life everything we learn is forgotten and we are again our stupid infant selves?
>>4285767Being anything beats not being anything, right?Karma and fate and soul impressions are also a thing. A lot of people feel like all of this is pointless and want to die, or believe that life is just suffering.Sure, if you don't believe in souls and think that universes can just spontaneously appear with complex rules that permits for old stardust to form together and form galaxies and somehow also strikes the ultra ultra ultra rare biochemical life gacha which then spontaneously forms intelligent living creatures which can adapt to their environment to maintain homeostasis and are sentient enough to eventually reach a form where we discuss our place in the grand scheme of things, I suppose it could feel like we're a little small and pointless, but I don't myself believe that it's pointless. As temporal creatures, time investment and attachment always lead to loss and life always leads to death. But whatever needed us here enough for us to be here at all is still there. Universes falling within the bounds of 10D or 11D spacetime don't make themselves, nor can biological life, or at least we haven't succeeded in doing so yet. From the "you only live once" mindset prevalent in the minds of young people in society today, yeah with death you lose your book learning and physical achievements, but book learning is only useful in the context of worldly life. Perhaps the soul holds onto the 'street smarts' from a cosmological perspective, with things like love and wisdom being more eternal. But that's all just a bunch of occult new agey nonsense and I'm a weirdo for even mentioning such things, right?
>>4285770It's not about hard book knowledge. Developmental psychology exists for a reason. Children learn to think for themselves, then there is realization of own mortality, rejection of dreams about being all-knowing and all-powerful, rebelious adolescence, learning to give up on things, critical thinking etc, etc. Noone is born with these lessons learned, yet all of them are categorised as "wisdom". Though for some reason I met people who knew what they want from life right from the childhood. Lucky bastards. Most people just stumble upon things, grasp them then decide if it theirs or not then move on. Haven't seen a wise child for all my life though.
>>4285803I mean a type of wisdom which goes above and beyond the things you only learn as a human. The more difficult choices. Like having been raised to mistreat people by parents, but finding out how to empathize and challenge those everyday beliefs and take responsibility for the effects you have on other souls.I believe it's easier to get by in life through hate, lies, resentment, cursing at people, stealing, spinning everything to your advantage. Those kinds of people are called "successful" in "business", despite that those are base instincts that most humans weigh upon their conscience. I think it takes something superhuman to be able to be the one that chooses to do the right thing even if you lose your social standing or make life harder for yourself.
>>4285755I don`t really care about your spiritual bullshit. I'm exclusively focused on the game.And I'm worried that there are two of you.
>>4285873You care enough to let me know that my philosophy talk upsets you. I'm sorry if you don't believe in things you can't see, but the writers and people who create works like Heaven Burns Red and other Key titles believe in sending a spiritual message via Key magic. You can get mad as you want to or announce your atheism, but Key has always been about these things and invited discussions about esoteric philosophy, so you're the one showing your newness to the Key fandom. Play Clannad by the way.
>>4285873Even if you don't believe in spiritual things, Shinto, Buddhism and spiritual practice are heavily ingrained in Japanese culture and history and everyday practices, but you have no respect or ability to think critically about things like this. You who are dead inside, only care about making your game's numbers bigger for the dopamine rush, no better than some heroin addict. Sorry for getting in the way of your next hit, do carry on mate.
>>4285878Just because someone writes about the supernatural doesn't mean the writer believes in itl. I have written plenty of stories that involve souls as a mechanic, but in real life there is not a single bit of evidence they exist. It's called fiction for a reason.Atheism and reincarnation/karma aren't even opposing stances you dullard...>>4285881And now the looney rants begin. Ugh. Yes, yes, you totally know me and all that bullshit. I can't believe it, but I might actually have to involve the jannies. Usually these threads get by without clean-ups.
>>4285883Anon and I were having a discussion about 31B's motto, it was you who derailed by getting emotional about people talking about spiritual things because spiritual things piss you off. But nobody asked you to butt in to derail our discussion with your worthless comment about how us talking about spiritual things violates your safe space and raises your blood pressure.But go on mate, go get your jannies and your diaper changed.
>>4285886Your post attacking me personally because your looney beliefs got questioned and recommending het VNs make you plenty off topic. I think you need to learn a thing or two about /u/ before you post here. These HBR threads are VERY lax for /u/ standards and I would like to keep it that way. So don't make it worse for everyone.Ugh... how easily the mask drops from someone pretending to be all philosophical and "deep" to playground insults and retardation. This is my last response. Stay in your lane.
>>4285892>j-j-jannies!!! MOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!Shan't take anything you say seriously after that. Good day sir.
>Two people having a nice discussion: Blah blah blah.>No one: >(You): I don`t really care about your spiritual bullshit. I'm exclusively focused on the game.>>>attacking me personally >>>playground insults>The conman cries out in pain as he strikes you.
>>4285903Sigh... because you are clearly not from this board, let me explain the basic rules to you. Only post yuri content and no waifufaggism. This means you crushing on a character is off-topic. No it doesn't matter if you claim to be a girl irl, nobody cares. If you want to drool over waifus got to /vgm/.
>>4285904It's fine. Don't worry about it.
>>4285905So just for the record: You are intentionally breaking the rules?
>>4285907I don't really care to follow imaginary rules which aren't in the sticky or rules page which are only being verbally enforced by regular users like you who are pretending to be 4chan staff as part of some weird power trip fetish. Sorry if you feel disrespected, I just don't feel like enabling your fetish.Me on the left by the way.
I don't know if it was Kai, but whoever the AiMari writer is just writes the blandest events. This one in particular feels like they didn't try at all. I get the appeal of not subverting expectations, but there's a fine line between that and playing it completely by the tropes. And of course they just love their practically married, but still super best friends with no real romantic tension ships. It says a lot when Shiki and some Maruyama corp worldbuilding were the highlights of the event
>>4285908Only posting yuri is an unambiguous rule. Let the jannies sort you out I guess. Bye.
>>4285911Is the following quote yuri?>I don`t really care about your spiritual bullshit. I'm exclusively focused on the game. And I'm worried that there are two of you.
>>4285910...why are you talking about Amari in the Maki event? They didn't even appear. MakiChiro are not even remotely like Amari. I think they are intentionally written more as partners in the original meaning and less romantic (although that won't stop shippers and good for them).We don't actually know who wrote the original A-san event, but yes, the swimsuit Amari event was written by Kai. And that one was definitely going for a twist, so your complaint is kinda inconsistent.As for the Maki event, claiming they didn't try at all when they had so many references and superfluous details in the even that clearly show investment, is kinda silly.Not to mention it was just really solid. It had both emotional and cool moments and if you didn't tear up when Maki realized Hana died and passed on her cape and Venus Knights spirits to the next dogs all along then you might just be too cynical and oversaturated with certain tropes. Sometimes a cool character is just cool and a story can be straightforward.
Does anyone think there's any story/lore significance to HBR *only* doing an inter-Key collaboration with Angel Beats?
>>4285915Maeda never got to finish Angel Beats and is tying up loose ends. That's literally it. Also AB is arguably the most popular Maeda work so it makes the big bucks. Nothing deeper than that.
>>4285915WFS wanted a collab, Maeda didn't want a collab, AB was the only thing they managed to persuade him to do. If WFS had full control, we would probably be collabing with every random shit like other collabing gachas.
>>4285917>>4285916I see, that makes sense.
>>4285914If you like it then good on you, but when all I get from the event about Maki is that she's a stereotypical biker girl with a heart of gold and a tragic upbringing who lived a stereotypical biker girl life, then there's really nothing from the event that I couldn't have inferred about her prior. But to each their own I suppose.
>>4285919How exactly could you have "inferred" that Maki had a tragic childhood, is traumatized by dark confined spaces, had a goddamn dog as part of her biker gang, actually took over the gang when she was still mostly a sheepish librarian girl and that her gang actually helped save people during the Cancer war's early days, which happened right after they took the title for controlling the nation's biker gangs?How could you infer that the Venus Knights (or their descendants) are still sneaking out of domes and spreading the name? How could you infer that Chiroru would quite the Seraph squad for Maki in a heartbeat because she respects her that much?Yes, Maki is clad in stereotypes, but the point of the event was that she is literally "putting it on" to honor Reika-san and to live the way she feels is best. Under that tought exeterior she is still that innocent girl who feels in over her head. I actually loved the part in the infirmary where Maki's inner thoughts were in her high pitched girly voice, because when she remembered her origins and when her guard is down she reverts to that state.I feel like you are really only looking at the even in the most surface way possible. There is too much effort in this event to just stamp it off as lazy.For crying out loud, during the power outage everything at the base that usually has electricity (vending machines, lamps etc.) are all turned of and you can actually see it. Those are such neat details that only HBR would bother with.
>>4285921Wait you didn't see those things happening from a mile away? I don't know about you but it felt like I was predicting each story beat long before it happened. Guess that's just what consuming too much media does to you. Yeah the effort is nice and all, but a spade is a spade. The writing was just too tropy and predictable for me. Gotta say it's the worst event this year
>>4285925You predicted all of that before the event trailer was even out? That sounds pretty suspect anon. I dunno if you're being honest here.
Some of you are way too stuck up. Chill out, life's too short to be acting like nothing else is more important every day over tiny things.
>>4285930>don't actually discuss the game's content, that's such a waste of time and life!Newflash, don't come to these threads if you care so much about your time. Clearly talking about things people care about isn't good enough for you.
>>4285929No it was based on the trailer, Maki's bond episodes, the event blurb, and as the event was progressing. But I am conflicted on whether this event or the Bungo one was worse.
>>4285932I don't mean "don't discuss things", it's more the snobbishness and pettiness and hypocrisy and lack of self awareness than anything. Like trying to talk in a room full of little 12 year olds trying to yell over each other..
>>4285933You said that you could have "infered" all of this without the event, so you predicting something from the event itself is not actually gonna count.Neither of these events is bad and if audience reactions are anything to go by, you are a massive minority.
>>4285934If you are the moron who literally posted waifufag stuff and went off-topic with a rant about your personal spiritual beliefs I would say you are the 12 year old who doesn't understand what board you are on.
>>4285937No and I don't care about that. There's someone who terminally has a stick up their ass and acts like everything's a big pain if you scroll back through the post history.
Is picrel worth building?
>>4285941Actually is this even the right place to ask this question? Sorry if it isn't.
>>4285936Well I was mainly referring to Maki's character and backstory because it played out exactly as I envisioned it would with the trailer. But I'm fine with being the minority if that's true. Still doesn't change my opinion that the event sucked ass. Man I gotta apologize to Bungo because despite being mostly recap it was better than just lazy by the books writing
In live mode how do you do the flick notes if you play on the PC version?
>>4285939Sorry for accusing you of being that moron then.If you are refering to me when I told you that it's a pain to talk to someone who constantly ignores half your posts and does not retain any information then you should try to understand the context.
>>4285941SS3 Hisame is unfortunately pretty bad. But anything can be viable in HBR. Don't listen to the numberfags from the /vgm/ threads, you don't really need to go full meta.
>>4285943Bungo's event wasn't mostly a recap though. You just don't understand what a recap is... like at all. Yes, there were about 3 repeated scenes. The rest was all original content. Just because something can happen at the same time as a story we already know, that doesn't make it a "recap". No wonder you are so bad at judging things...
>>4285947I'm not that poster either, it's just that I was told this place wasn't as snobbish as the /vgm/ thread but it seems that wasn't the case?>>4285948Yeah I'm not one to sweat over numbers, she just feels a little weak compared to even SS Spitfire Yuki. Thanks for the input though and cheers.
>>4285944You just click the button. It is actually far easier on PC, because you literally don't need to treat those notes any different from the rest.
>>4285950>snobbishPlease explain how being annoyed by someone ignoring what you say is snobbish. Nobody is required to have patience for everyone, you know?
>>4285951Oh okay. It felt like it wasn't comboing right but now it is.
>>4285952Sorry, just forget it. I don't really like to argue...
>>4285949And I think you're just too charitable judging things. But maybe you have to be extra charitable when it comes to gacha game stories. I doubt we'll ever see eye to eye, but that's life
>>4285955Well, maybe don't accuse people of having sticks up their ass and being snobbish if you don't want to argue. Kinda setting yourself up for backlash there.
>>4285958Sorry. I'm used to /u/ threads being a lot more mellow.
>>4285956Well let's see... you lie about being able to predict things before they even get brought up, you call events that are literally 99% original content "recaps" even if they have completely new information and explore unique feelings and dynamics, like Requiem for the Blue (yes I can predict that you are that anon) and you think that objectively something is bad because you personally are too stunted to feel anything or care, while literally every public person who plays these events shows strong emotional resonance with them. Literally all streamers I watched who played Maki's event were super hyped when Chiroru and her fought back to back and 31F supported them from the shadows. Most people tear up at the sad dog scene. The Bungo event is literally one of the most recommended events and probably one of the best chapter 1 events period. Something that works for pretty much anyone who beat chapter 1 and actually dearly needed to explore WakkiBungo more after Chapter 1 didn't have the time to really explore them. If anything the Bungo even should have come out first back with Mari's.
>>4285960So in those alleged /u/ threads people are fine with you insulting them? That sure sounds strange. Have you ever been in any of the actual discussion threads or are you just hanging out in image dumps and dead threads that get bumped one a week? Because let me tell you something, the General, the video-game thread and any of the other big ones are pretty combative.
>>4285963I'm mostly over in the Asumi thread and other manga threads, and the image dump threads, yes...
>>4285964Yeah so dead threads and filler threads. Not exactly the real /u/ experience. Though I guess Asumi is just full of horny freaks who probably get along just fine turning their brains off.Just understand that when something gets discussed in any serious fashion, opinions and interpretations will collide. This means arguments ensue, whether they are aggressive or mild. But rampant discussion is good. That's how you know something is actually deeper than the kiddie pool.
>>4285969I'm not very good at thinking so you probably won't like me too much...
>>4285961I'm not sure if I want your childish enthusiasm or if I should feel disturbed by it. I mean watching multiple streamer reactions is just... uhh I'm glad you're having fun? But yeah I've seen your posts before and your witchhunts towards your imaginary boogeyman. Just so you know I'm not recap guy, but I know you won't believe me. I mean honestly it's comforting to know that they'll always be one person who will defend everything about this game to their grave. Thank you for being here anon.
>>4285941It depends on what you want. If you're her fan, you can build a team with her in it, it wouldn't be the strongest team out there, but it would be functional, she's not worhtless-tier or anything like that. If you want to build a stronger team, then no. Breakers in general are in a weird position in this game, because if the enemy is easy to break, then a random offensive debuffer can break instead, and if the enemy is really strong, then you would rather have another damage booster or sustain instead of a whole slot dedicated to DP breaking. On top of that, her gimmick is also weird because her +SP after break usually procs when everyone are already capped or about to get capped on SP. So if you want to use it properly, you either have to set it up and break super early or use a lot of SP o other characters before breaking, which is just annoying. Akari's OD on break gimmick is much better in comparison.
>>4285971>oh you watch multiple streamers, so now your point is invalid because I'm too good for thatOh real mature.>I'm not recap guyColor me surprised then. Unfortunate that you use the same bad arguments as him.>defend everythingMy guy, I know you ain't too bright, but just because I explain to you why you are extremely limited on every level when it comes to the analyses of media, doesn't mean I just blindly defend anything. I know it would suit your narrative really well to stamp me off as some crazy fangirl who has no clue what is going on, but the truth is that I critisize parts of this game all the time. I don't even think Maki's even is exceptional, I just consider it decent.But unlike you I have the media literacy to actually articulate my points beyond just saying "this is bad" and ignoring what the rest of the world thinks.
>>4285973Ah...
>>4285976There was no sarcasm behind it. Seeing how much effort you put into these posts makes me feel warmer and more wholesome than any event this year. Like I said, we'll never see eye to eye, but I appreciate you being here anon
Now kiss.
>>4285980Yeah that whole >if I want your childish enthusiasm or if I should feel disturbed by it>your witchhunts towards your imaginary boogeymanreally speaks of how wholesome your feelings are and how sincere you are. What a crock of shit.
>>4285984I feel like you really need a smooch right about now.
>>4285985I feel like you really need to grow up.
>>4285988Oh so you'd prefer a more adult kiss? How bold of you.
>>4285984Yeah you're right.. it wouldn't be the same anymore if it ended in this weird mood. So yeah, go touch grass you vtuber watching faggot
>>4285991The hell are you going on about now?
https://gs-ch.com/articles/contents/arEaFvtVpd8FyqaHhx5oTaF7New 4koma batch.
>>4286019Karerin is actually stupid-sexual and you can't convince me otherwise.
>>4286021Nothing wrong with being attracted to stupid, dumb airheads who are only good in bed
>>4286035I need a KareTsuka version of this meme.
Apparently, Kura's field works like a slightly weaker but still normal universal field, so it works with pierce critical units. It's not that broken because it's 1 time only(so can be removed by field cancers/field reset in some fights), and Kura herself is not that good of a unit, but wfs never learn, even after the whole elemental resistance debacle, they will just gradually buff it step by step until it's too late and it's time to introduce pierce critical absorption or some shit.
Finally beat the space worm on EX+1. This is clearly a speed challenge. Gotta eleminate it before everyone gets broken by the debuff. Aoi can stave it off for a while, but this is clearly a job for 31X character who can ult fast.
Does anyone have a video of Ichigo using her Master skill? I really wanna know what it looks like, but finding this stuff on Youtube or Xitter is hard.
Based on Hisame's new memory episode.
Advice from the harem queen.
>>4284763I take that back, the new Inori's damage is so bad, it's insane. I get that they don't want blasters to be the main attackers anymore, but what's with the 30SP gimmick then?
I have a problem. game2text got fucked, OCR refuses to recognize text any more and for some reason there are 3 buttons less. Anyone had this problem? How to fix this? Alternatively any suggestions for other OCR tools?
>>4286189By OCR, you mean game2text's? I can recommend MingShiba's Sugoi Translator toolkit. It has a good OCR. But he only makes the free version available in the middle of the month so you still need to wait a few days. Until then, depending on where you are, you can maybe watch youtube videos with translations. FLEreverse has a lot of content translated already.
After thinking about it more, the possibility of getting unison for 1000 days of HBR doesn't seem unlikely at all. 1000 days is the first week of November, so if we put it on the calendar, assuming they don't do any weird stuff, it could be like this>20/09 - new event gacha>04/10 - random gacha>18/10 or 25/10 - new event gacha>01/11 or 06/11 - 1000 days gacha, possibly unisonI'll try to be prepared for it just in case. Not losing anything if it's not there anyway.
>>4286245If the next event is Isuzu's I will lose all my saved up bits for sure. No unison will stop that.
>>4286199Thanks, sis. I'll try it. OCR is something-something Character Recognition. As for where I'm, it's not too urgent, I've cleared all story related content except the latest memory stories.
>>4286245>or 06/118, not 6.>>4286260I mean, that's valid. To be honest, I hope they release a normal style there, but I don't want to risk missing out on a pairing limited like that.
Who is Koju usually paired with?
>>4286567Nobody. She has no real pairing. There are some very stubborn pair-the-spares shippers who throw her and Higumin together, but in the game they have almost absolutely zero chemistry or interactions and Higumin recently has gotten a more... let's say "supported" ship. Really the only girl for Koju is her ghost girlfriend, but she passed on in her event. Whoops.
I think Koju x Ruka is cute.
>>4286573That's shallow, but you do you. Ruka's got enough ships, ones that are a lot more intentionally romantic. If anything Koju's event proved that she doesn't even see Ruka sexually. She might be one of the least gay characters in the game.
>>4286576Yeah Koju's event made those two feel very sisterly
Now that I think about it, Koju's been paired up with Risa a lot lately. Though as with all Risa interactions it's hard to say how much of a romantic ship it really can become. She is just everyone's mom. Though the reason they are paired up is obviously that they both can see spirits.>>4286582More like normal friends in my opinion.
>>4286584I've held hands with one of my normal friends, it felt natural but it brought on a lot of rumors like so and so are dating/are lesbians. There were similar scenes when Koju/Ruka were holding hands mentioning their worry about the same thing. Is holding hands considered romantic? Maybe it's just a potential state that can easily blossom into dating or being more-than-freinds?
Is Karen-chan a bottom, despite her craziness?
>>4286634Nobody was worrying. They were gossiping. Everyone at the base are lesbians anyway.And please don't ask questions about the basics of the basics. This isn't some self-discovery channel. Are you literally a kid?
>>4286825Yes, I'm a child in the body of a 35 year old woman. Sorry if you don't like it.
>>4286828That's pretty sad.
>>4286825>Nobody was worryingI guess you forgot the part during the haunted house event where Ruka says to Koju, "people might misunderstand if they saw us holding hands", and then 5 minutes later Koju says the same thing after the girls start gossipinf and Ruka's like, "I just said that!"... or maybe you don't understand Japanese or haven't played that event? I'm sorry for spoiling you if so...
>>4286831I feel like having a childish, dumb mind is probably better than having the mind of a bitter, closed-off elderly person, so I think it's a blessing. Even though I'm not smart I wouldn't trade it for anything.
>>4286832No dumbo, I know exactly what was talked about. The girls gossipped because they held hands. Yes, they could be misunderstood as lovers for that by some gossipers. It wasn't a genuine worry, just a joke.
Huh. This one isn't from the new batch.
>>4286839
Well I got Ruka's Master Skill. It was the only one I could easily get because she was already 90% towards Lv. 5.I just realized that you need to use a new type of item to unlock these and you can only get around 45 right now, so that means you can only unlock 3 Master Skills... I don't know if locking these behind a limited type of currency was really necessary. At least give us some way to grind it.
>>4286842I don't think there's anything wrong with it being a super special unlock for your most favorite characters that you have to put work and resources into. What I don't like is how meh or basic some of them are while being this special. Ruka herself, for example, her skill is good, the raw stats are always good, but, like, it's just +number, that's so bland. Megumi was already mentioned in the thread, they need to improve her skill somehow. Ichigo is useful when you need it, but is super situational overall. And then Kura just gives a decent field for free and Risa gets an actual skill. It's weird.
>>4286847What makes me sad is that Ruka doesnt get any unique kind of animation or reaction for it. At least Megumin's skill makes her pose and even has a special Tama interaction. Ruka just gets the stat up and nothing happens. Wasted opportunity to have her at least glow differently or have a cool shot of getting powered up.Just weird to not give the protagonist at least that much flair.
>>4286847PS: We already got that super special unlock for favorite character. The laurel thing that is also an ultra limited rare item. I'd think Master Skill should just be that... mastery of the character. The unlock conditions already force you to really invest into that character. It's just a double penalty.
>>4286851>laurelThat is for STYLES not the character. Massive difference. Styles come and go, characters don't. And with us not ever knowing when more come, you just keep them, until you need them. (likely never, but you never know when they release styles that click so hard with you, you need these items, or you actually struggle in content where they could help)This master skill shit might improve over time, who knows. Right now it's pointless to interact with. If it doesn't change I'll really just get it for my absolutely most favorite chars. The only char that has one right now and I actually use is Megumi, but fuck fishing. I don't even remotely like her enough to deal with that.
>>4286854Nobdoy waits. Literally everyone uses those laurels on their favs, it's all over Xitter. I used them on styles I know I can't replace any time soon (e.g. unison styles, Isuzu SS2, Ice A-san and lightning Aoi).I will never understand people with this "saving it up" attitude. In RPGs I also use my strong healing items when I feel like it. Hoarders are just self-sabotaging weirdoes.
>>4286854> but fuck fishingHonestly, that's such a whiny bitch attitude lolI grinded out fishing back when chapter 4.2 was still new so I could buy all the overpowered chips from the store lady in the dome.For the phantom fish all you need to do is to max out your angling rod and fish in the hardest spot. It takes like 5 minutes tops.
>>4286851I think this mechanic is what they wanted laurel to be in the first place. Laurel ended up being a complete whatever throw-at-the-style-and-forget-it thing, so they did a 2nd try with something more engaging with the player.
>>4286855>Nobdoy waits.There are actually people worrying about the small gameplay gains you get from them. I especially saw it on 5ch with their>What is the most optimal style to use laurel on? Who should I use it on? Should I save it for now?Then the average characterfag is likehttps://www.youtube.com/live/kmyiD_OwHyE?t=8640>laurels 4 styles in a row, zero regrets
>>4286860I have seen dozens of posts on Xitter where people literally use the laurels on every style of one character too. Giving laurels to A-styles and S-styles!But yeah, I'm inbetween. I used them right away, but I also sort of picked styles that will always be useful or at least are unique. Does anyone seriously think ice A-san or waitress Aoi will ever be usurped? Not any time soon.
Page 10 again, huh? Guess I'll have to think about what pairing to pick for the OP. MakiChiro seems to make sense, but there isn't really a good CG from the event other than them fist bumping. I don't think that counts. The last HisaIno thread wasn't too long ago though.I'll have to carefully look at the new fanart.
>>4286836It's flirtatious if anything...
I think people who save up their rpg items for a rainy day are also probably too chicken to leave their house because they might end up regretting it
i used my floral laurel wreath thingie on aoi ss1 :)
>>4286856Not everyone likes it regardless. Also I doubt it's 5 minutes. But I generally ignore any and all fishing in any game, unless it leaves a good first impression (it won't). I also simply don't care about grinding 4.2, or interacting with it any further.>>4286855>small gameplay gainsIt's anything but small. For people not interacting with the gameplay it may not matter, but for people that actually do, it's an extremely powerful tool. Keep in mind, NOTHING matters in HBR if you do not care about anything but the story. You can be the biggest retard with your limit breaks, laurels and gacha currency. It'll only bite you if you actually enjoy the endgame stuff.And as someone who does enjoy it, I'm simply not using extremely powerful and limited tools if I don't need them. And (so far) I simply don't need them. If they'd be per character, I'd just put them on my favorites, but my favorites have too many styles to do that.
>>4286995>I don't want to do easy thing, therefore it's unreasonablek>a rant about how small gameplay gains arent smallI didn't say that. You tagged the wrong post.
>>4286995Try fishing irl mate, it's fun!
>>4287369Pure sex
The Maki event came out on the 23rd, so does that mean the next event will come out next Friday the 20th? Their Friday limitation makes it a coinflip each time. But knowing WFS they probably would rather push the event over a month than releasing it early. So maybe it will come out on the 27th?
>>4287865>does that mean the next event will come out next Friday the 20th?Yes, it's next week. Just check the event period in-game or in the hbr.quest schedule section. They usually run them back to back, unless there's a special occasion like an anniversary screwing the schedule up somehow or that vacation they took once.
>>4287930They can always throw in a week long filler Score Attack boss like they have done many times. Even the Miya --> irene transition wasnt clean. At least Irene --> Amari had the scheduling with the anniversary to consider.Just saying, the in-game timer for when event stuff runs out isn't good enough.
>>4287934If nothing else they will release new styles next Friday because money, so it would be odd if those weren't even styles. It could be a solo style though. Sometimes they throw one in a gap as filler.
>>4287934Score attacks and styles have their own schedules. Look at the event info in the info section, it has the schedule for the event period, exchange, etc. These are the dates you need. Miya's event was >2024/4/26(金)11:00 ~ 2024/5/31(金)10:59(JST)までso it was right until the Irene event started as well.
>>4288180New thread
>>4287865Do you know that there's literally a roadmap?
