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>>4294078Crack.
>>4294078>western shit
all the popular het romcoms couples not only getting together without having to wait until the last page of the manga and even banging had me thinking, the only ones who had achieved that afaik were Touko and Yuu, what's up with that?
>>4294468Theres plenty of yuri couples like that, and touko and yuu didnt even get together till after the anime
>>4294468The heck are you even talking about het romcoms are like epitome of stallingNearly every series literally wait until the last page of the manga lol On the other hand, yuri romcom not only did not care about 1 girl winner rule but also didn't wait for more than 5 vols
>>4294468>even banging... ...the only ones who had achieved that afaik were Touko and Yuu
>>4294468Shimeji Simulation had the MCs trying to have sex. Turns out it's not a good idea during a mass Instrumentality.
>>4294073Why do canon girl x girl pairings, no matter the build up, have people say "it came out of nowhere"
>>4294475What the actual fuck. I understood Madoka and GGZ, but MyGo?
>>4294429>seething
>>4294476maybe i need either reccs or read other yuri because most serializations move at molasses pace when it comes to tying the main girls together
>>4294498Because the people saying it are either doing in bad faith or so dumb they can't see romantic tropes.
>>4294498het haremslop got people too accustomed to girl on girl skinship that are play off as running gags with no payoff
>>4294503
>>4294498Its just people who hate yuri for whatever reason.
>>4294498Which pairings are you referring to?
>>4294526Basically any and all western girl x girl canon couples of the last 15 years.
>>4294498Heteronormative conditioning, unironically. There are probably other factors at play as well, but most societies have been this way. Hard to break away from that way of thinking.
>>4294520Exactly, that's why this board has never had regular threads about western stuff for years now.Oh wait.
>>4294560Onimai is yuri then.
>>4294560offtopic /u/ posting in nothing new, but that says more about the mods than anything
>a lot of yuri series that are accused of being male gaze are popular>most of the time they're also objectively goodI say bring on more male gaze yuri. It's gonna make yuri conquer the earth.
>>4294564women do male gaze the best
>>4294566Anime promo art has nothing to do with the original author.
>>4294568original male gaze this issue
>>4294568Though I am pretty sure Citrus has far more erotic manga art
>>4294569The cats always make me laugh.
we are going through another OL yuri manga drought, Yui-san is carrying the entire sub-genre
>>4294573I wonder if the author will reveal what are the cats stand power
>>4294574It's likely ending next chapter
>>4294576shut the fuck up
>>4294575They're like Hey Ya except instead of giving motivational talks they gossip about all the girls that piss her off.
>>4294575『Josie and the Pussycats』 - inflict saphhistry AOE with radius of 100 feet
>>4294468Read more. I only really started reading lots of non entry level yuri manga this year and can think of plenty example where this happens.
>>4294569It’s honestly her tamest series.
>>4294573>>4294569I'm a bit sad there's no cat on Volume 1 cover.
>>4294564I never understood the 'male gaze yuri' issue because it's implying that either: Girls should be ugly or wearing burkas to avoid itOrActual lesbians or het girls don't enjoy seeing two hot women in skimpy clothes fondling each other all over
>>4294602>Actual lesbians or het girls don't enjoy seeing two hot womenWrong.
>>4294602You can't talk about male gaze on 4chan, you're only arguing with straight males in bad faith and not women.
>>4294602>Girls should be ugly or wearing burkas to avoid itit's this one, they hate beauty and celebrate ugliness
>>4294609>theyfuck off schizo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SojtgF7LKoIs this yuri?
>>4294602It's just people who hate it when others are having fun, pure and simple.
>>4294498>>4294564>>4294602Please, for the love of all-watching Maria-sama, stop replying to the bait.
>>4294602Male gaze is a "problem" made up by western women. Most Japanese yuri mangaka, who are also women themselves, don't care about it.
>>4294612>scripts by Teren Mikami>cgi>all-female main castAll signs point to yes.
>>4294612I don't like this trend of anime made in Koikatsu.
>>4294621Portraying women in media as nothing but sex objects=not good
I'd watch something animated on MS paint as long as the plot is yuri
Hers aren't too big, but bigger than mine.
>>4294637When they eventually get married, which last name do they take.
>>4294642Shimamura.
>>4294642>the author plans to continue until the parliament passes the constitutional amendment and another 400 chapters beyond that, which would be required for Sendai to muster courage and outright say she wants to marry Miyagi, and for Miyagi to accept it and agree
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I just read the first volume of Yuri Espoir and think it's fairly unique, intriguing even. Why is there no interest in this series?
>>4294662Because it finished years ago, IIRC?
>>4294683I think it's on hiatus because its platform shut down or something. No one talked about it when it was published regularly either.
>>4294648Sendai-san will pass the gay mariage bill herself. You know Miyagi would want to be the one proposing.
>>4294662didnt realize till just now it was readable for free on the publishers site. i read volume 1 like 2 years ago but didnt want to buy another volume
>>4294468You're talking about those shows where literally everything other than the beginning and the end is filler that can be ignored because there's no real character development in between?The problem with these series is not that the couple doesn't end up together in the end, but that the series itself is garbage.
>>4294529But isn't that the way it works in the West? Not just with girl x girl, but even with het, that's why you have people making fun of Disney princesses or action movies for years.
>>4294622>all-female main castThere's clearly a male character there.>>4294624They could at least increase the frame rate. 3D moving at 12 FPS is just jarring.
>>4294626I can't imagine what would this place be like if SonoHana came out today
>>4294786Do you know what a main cast is?
ZenKowa volume 2 is being reprinted and volume 1 is being reprinted for a second time.
>>4294791I find it hilarious that a relatively unknown mangaka that mostly did oneshots prior to this managed to have their first major work blow up the way it has. The same thing to a lesser extent happened with KyouKano, where prior to it, the author struggled not to get hit with an early axe.
>>4294796You find hilarious how the industry works for 99% of authors? You must be laughing a lot then.
>>4294796It's a norm for many authors. Just as, unfortunately, it's a norm for many authors not to write anything worthy after a breakthrough debut.
>>4294789It's what you get around your neck after thighs play goes wrong?
>>4294803That's the issue. If a series goes on for long enough, the author can end up using up all their best ideas and character designs. Then the next work feels boring with seemingly reused characters.
Miyagi buying two mugs just to test which one Snedai likes more. Cute.
>>4294803>many authors not to write anything worthy after a breakthroughNakatani...
>>4294813Miyagi is so nice in the recent chapters, one can't help but think that she's going to pull something outrageous soon. Like confessing first at the festival, or getting wasted on her 20th birthday and start licking Sendai-san's feet.
How common is western style organized cheerleader in Japanese middle/high schools? I see them at professional athletic events and in mango and anime characters will don the outfit and pompoms as a quick gag.But I feel like more often there's some school event/sports day or something and they just grab some random characters to do cheerleading, either western or Japanese style, for that day rather than there being an organized cheerleading team or something. So manga just has gyarus the same way high school movies from the late 1900s liked to use cheerleaders. Even in yuri manga if one of the main girls isn't athletic she'll just be the manager, doing menial stuff and paperwork, to be closer to her girlfriend.Or maybe a bunch of media drawn by a bunch of withdrawn nerds don't have any meaningful experience with that.Still, feels like there'd be yuri potential even outside whatever particular fetishes you'd have for the outfit.
>みかみてれんです。このたび、アニメ『マーダーミステリー・オブ・ザ・デッド』の脚本を担当させていただきました!Mikami Teren is doing literally anything but writing his own series.
>>4294850stange that the watanare anime is happening even though it seems he's super busy with other stuff.
>>4294850Judging by Black Lotus, mysteries are not this writer's strong suit.
>>4294854He's not the original writer, he's just the scriptwriter.
>>4294848>How common is western style organized cheerleader in Japanese middle/high schoolsExtremely uncommon. It's just tossed into a lot of manga because the outfits are cute and flashy and it's fun to see the girls dress up. Plus there's gotta be an exotic factor since it's a western style outfit.
>>4294808damn you're literally describing Manio.Honestly I can't remember any yuri author that has made more than 1 good series
>>4294860>Honestly I can't remember any yuri authorYou don't need to remind us of how ignorant you are
>>4294860Manio's only problem is motivation.
>>4294860Kodama is right there though?
>>4294845Would be nice if something happened at festival.
>>4294860>yuri author that has made more than 1 good seriesDoes those making mostly hentai count?
>>4294860>more than 1 good seriesshio usui
>>4294860Itou Hachi
>>4294620Just because you don't like the post doesn't mean its bait, sis.
>>4294872YURI author
>>4294896Yeah. One of if not THE best to ever do it.
>>4294662It's a little obscure, but known enough to get a localization, so I would argue there is quite enough interest. The biggest problem is that it is, indeed, on hiatus, and has been for a while (but, importantly, not cancelled, and there have been a few small updates every now and then).>>4294683>>4294684It's on hiatus for what's likely to do with the author's own circumstances, as the platform is very much alive and kicking. They did a major overhaul, which is why the old links don't work, but everything's still there.
>>4294908>her most known work is one where two girls have boyfriends>yuriOne of the above statements is false.
>>4294935The only false statement is the third one.
>>4294988The second isn't even a statement, it's a single word.
There are four girls in this picture.
>>4294994I'll die mad knowing how hard they fumbled such an easy concept
>>4294935To be fair, MC breaks off after cucking and never doing anything with him.
>>4294876She has two finished series and both turned mediocre half way through.
>>4295003They didn't though?
>>4295011>main couple is the weakest and only because Mamori is annoyingly oblivious toward's Mirei's feelings>unnecessary third wheel drama with the reverse trap>Momoka's involvement was rushed>teased a bunch of things that will never get resolved like Mirei's past>shoehorned het and tentaclesnah fuck that
>>4295004And the other girl has regular sex with a male character, even after meeting the feMC.
>>4295017Doesn't he like beat her at one point for NOT having sex? It's been a while since I read it.
Hey /u/ help me to remember about this manga, is a 4koma with a girl with glasses who self harm with a scissor and she had a girl she likes but also a stalker
>>4295025Saji-chan no Yami Nikki?
Random yuri question of the day time!!!Are their any lesbeans with rocket arms that have rocket punched anyone? Thank you for your time!
>>4295027Yes! thanks
>>4295030The closest thing I can think of is one girl from Nanoha Vivid who had a golem do that for her.
>>4295012Maybe, but when you love a serie for real you come accept all its faults.
>>4295030That depends if you consider the female human version of Mazinger Z a lesbian.
>>4295030Homura does this in the new Madoka movie
>>4295030This happened to my buddy Erica.
>>4294635Bait.
Board health check:Which one between these two types of post is more likely to be deleted by the jannies/mods?a. Posting "yuri is dead"(reference to Assault Lily)b. Posting a picture of two "girls" from a gender bender series
>>4295080Wasn't Yuri revived in the gacha?
>>4295080Did you just realize now 4chan mods are all following the same agenda?
>>4295080imagine if we lived in an alternate timeline where assault lily was well written. show was all over the place, and progressed a mile a minute
>>4295094It was cute and gay and I wouldn't trade it for plot
>>4295094I personally enjoyed it the first time, the second time even more, and the third time even more, Kaede is the best Yaya, she has real possibilities.>>4295085Just like the other gacha, it's a different continuity, not many are sequels or connected.>>4295080>b. Posting a picture of two "girls" from a gender bender seriesThe real problem is that a GB series only has one "girl" per series, because in the end it's basically a self-sertion or specific fetish.
>>4295030
>>4295095Different anon but that's the thing, I'd trade its attempts at plot for more cute and gay.
>>4295080>>4295096Oh wow anons, someone may start talking about "board culture" which is code for non yuri content which is anti lesbianism or anti women they love to post here because it makes their dickhole hard.
>>4295095We've had series that have both so it's not compromise. Also, all of the characters sucked.
>>4295116You are just a bad person.
Whats this aboutIs it actually yuri
>>4295128Love Bullet, Maintext yuri.
Is there even anything worth watching next season?
>>4295133no
>>4295133Yes
>>4295131the ship sank as it went maintext, the rest of the girl x girl is mind controlled
>>4295133Maybe
>>4295133i dont know
>>4295133There's actually nothing. Not even a basic CGDCT series.
>>4295144Time to work on that backlog, anonette
>everyone forgetting about the SAO spin-off made by 3Hz which removed a lot of heterosexual stuff from the first few novelsThe same staff is even working on it even after they got absorbed in A-1.
>>4295147Oh no we are not forgetting about this non yuri shit, I understand this concept may be hard for someone like you, but just because there is a mud pool, you don't need to jump and take a bath on it.
>>4295149The anime has a different canon from the novels and is more yuri.
>>4295133Can you repeat the question?
Oh boy here we go again
>>4295150Don't reply to spergs.
>>4295143>>That was announced 5 years agoFrankly that seems like the normal time for these projects, although I would have liked something longer and I don't know how to feel about them trying to imitate the manga style so closely, it's even in black and white.>>4295133I made my schedule 3 weeks ago and the outlook looks ridiculously terrible, everything looks so bad that the third season of LL Superstar and the second season of Im@s Shiny Colors seem like genuinely good options in comparison, it's going to be one of those seasons where the top 10 is going to be full of mediocre garbage at best.
>>4295149It's sad and funny at the same time that this is the only decent project SAO has, similar to Prisma Illya for Fate, I guess they can't really be yuri for that very reason, these franchises already have an idiotic fanbase that can't stand the mere existence of yuri as something serious.It reminds me of how Kale x Caulifla is over the heads of most of the Dragon Ball fandom, the other part are idiots who still don't accept that that's yuri and continue to be salty that Cabba is not the romantic interest of either of them 2 (because he isn't)
>>4295144The closest thing to a CGDCT next season is Tonbo
Yuriphonium releases in 3 days!https://x.com/4049forever/status/1837382067317100674https://x.com/4049forever/status/1837384246530658542
>>4295156They won't be yuri because none of those things were planned to be yuri to begin with, part because of the target audience, part because the authors themselves are not interested in yuri besides fanservice. Anything can be yuri when you don't have any standards.
>>4295156>I guess they can't really be yuri for that very reasonNone of the girls in GGO are in love with the male MC of SAO though, unlike shows like Railgun or Prisma>>4295181>in yuri besides fanserviceYuri being only fanservice is only a downside if the girls are in love with guys, which isn't the case for the GGO spin-off anime.
>>4295147i dont care what SAO is doing, im not watching it for crumbs of yuri, this isnt 2007 anymore
>>4295147They didn't remove M being Elsa's fucktoy or Elsa being a massive bislut who wants Karen as another plaything while she keeps fucking men (and women, but men is the problem here). This will go nowhere because Karen has standards and doesn't want that kind of relationship, M may be a cuck, but not Karen
>>4295150Elsa being a bislut nympho and M being one of her boytoys is still canon to the anime.
>>4295192Elsa fucks guys in the GGO spin-off anime. M makes it clear he's one orf many. Rewatch the show
>>4295174Yuri teaching me English once again.
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>>4295174>>4295230Wait I read this as "gliding" all this time.
>>4295174is this even good?theres boy in the title but not even on the cover
>>4295236Same, I thought it was a weird word to use. Didn't realize it was an expression lol.
>>4295237>there's boy in the titleNever forget Candy Boy. Where there's no boy. Just lesbian twincest
>>4295242Even when there are boys in yuri it's always designated losers, barely secondary characters.
>>4295230ive literally never heard this expression used in my life
>>4295174Do these people speak english? "Gilding the Lily" means embellishing something unnecessarily.But its still referring to adding ornaments, so the title is asking if "boys who enhance yuri should die" which is not only completly nonsensical considering what the story is about about, but also means the almost opposite of what the actual title is.>despite the title its a real yuri work that properly shows yuriSpoilers, no it isn't and no it doesn't.Its exactly as shit as the title implies.
>>4295267>>its a real yuri work that properly shows yuri>Spoilers, no it isn't and no it doesn't.So I was scrolling the author's twitter profile and saw thesehttps://x.com/4049forever/status/1837459532450046456https://x.com/4049forever/status/1827298429917159842How can these be not yuri. Any source reader that actually finished the series care to explain?
>>4295270The series isn't finished. But I will tell you right now that the blonde girl is gonna be in a relationship with a guy for the entire first volume if you consider buying it and they don't even start on any actual yuri until later.He basically exists so the main character can see the girl she likes kiss him once a chapter and be mad about it (but not for romantic reasons).
>>4295275>The series isn't finishedI heard it's axed, is that a fake news?>actual yuri until later.You first say it's not yuri and now you say there's yuri later. I'm just confused now lol
>>4295270>cherrypicking pagesThat shit is full of hetshit, girls are literally dating and kissing boys on screen. It's not yuri and will never be. The author has a very clear fetish and he made it clear with the title alone. If you support that shit you're clearly a retarded hetfag and if you post it here you're nothing but a troll.
Yuniko's favorite manga btw.
>>4295282>I heard it's axed, is that a fake news?I don't follow it, but just reading their twitter makes it pretty clear its not.>I'm confusedIt later becomes yuri, if you care enough to read through page on page about some bislut making out with her boyfriend until she decides she likes music more. I would not call that "real" yuri, no matter how it ends, if you make people go through reading that shit just for the sake of having it in the story since it doesn't actually add anything. The guy isn't even getting in the way of the yuri in the first place, since the blonde girl wanted to date him.
>>4295288Thanks, bislut really isn't a turn off for me so I'll be checking it out. >>4295287More reason for me to read it then.
>>4295288The boyfriend thing wouldn't even be the worst part, if the story besides thst was any good. But its the most generic shit ever.
>>4295292>boyfriendBoyfriends. Its about a whole bunch of girls you get to read dating guys.
>>4295292>generic shit if it's the generic shit yuniko likes it's a generic shit i like
>>4295174They should have released the first two volumes at the same time, because everyone is gonna drop this if they only see the first one.
>>4295288>I don't follow it, but just reading their twitter makes it pretty clear its not.It actually finished a few months ago.
>>4295282well it was axed but it's also continuing under a new title and platform
>>4295313And, hopefully, no males.
>>4295322Yeah. Hopefully Love Bullet gets rid of males too considering we saved the series.
>>4295128Thus far, both of the relationships setup by the cupids have been F/F, as well as the main character's relationship-that-wasn't.>>4295138>mind controlledIt's established right in the pilot that the cupid bullets don't work if there isn't something there to begin with. They increase existing feelings, not create them out of nothing.
>>4295326Don’t jinx it
>>4295326she's a cupid not a girl only cupid. It would be weird if she only creates lesbian couples
>>4295329>>4295356There was the one couple Koharu setup before becoming a cupid in chapter 1 that was het. And on the one hand, I agree, unless your setting is established as some women-only paradise like Love Live or Love Bakudan, I feel it makes the yuri pairings stronger if there's not an obvious bias with a premise like Love Bullet's (That is 3 "Love ____" titles in a row). That it at least presents yuri pairings as viable (if not preferable) is already a win in my book. Hell, wouldn't mind if it threw in them doing some yaoi pairings for variety/equality.That said, I certainly wouldn't object if any het (or yaoi) setups were just done off-screen or only in passing, with those the narrative actually focuses on always being yuri.
>>4295329>>4295356Don't reply to bait.
I just realized that the MCs of A Monster Wants to Eat Me, The Summer You Were There, and Moon in Rainy Night are basically variations of the same character.
So I just started reading "Kase-san" for the first time, and can someone PLEASE tell me that Yamada cuts it out with the, "I can't date Kase, she's a girl too! But I guess she is kinda boyish..." bit sooner rather than later?
>>4295384One of them is not like the others
>>4295384And who they all belong to?
>>4295386They turn into full blown lesbians pretty fast iirc. Theres also the sequel manga, which i havent gotten around to catching up on
>>4295386Yeah, you will spend most of the manga being mad at Kase instead. Especially the sequel.
>>4295388Corpses?
>>4295391If she doesn't cut it out when they actually start dating, I will legitimately strangle this girl. But sooner than later would be preferable.>>4295396Ominous.
>>4295400Its still cute and fluffy, I do love them. But I want to slap her sometimes.
>>4295386Yamada went into overdrive the moment she saw Kase's boobs.
>>4295387You're right. One of them is married.
>>4295267Eh, I think it fits. There are many guys who see two girls making out and think that their dick would make the situation even better, surely you've seen countless such comments on the internet. This might actually become a stock translation for the "yuri ni hasamaru otoko" concept in general.
>>4295445Except thats not even close to what the original title is referring to, nor to what happening in the manga. If this was a story about a guy trying to insert himself for a threesome, that would make sense. But thats not the case.
>>4295448There wasn't a LN sequel to a manga that everyone ended up hating for that very reason?
>>4295448Not to mention the thing being added in that expression is still gold, a very odd implication from the perspective of a yuri manga.>>4295445The only people who would use that phrase are "yuri fans" who want to glorify their desire to fuck them. You can fuck off with that shit.
>>4295445>There are many guys who see two girls making out and think that their dick would make the situation even betterAs far as I can tell, the guy in the manga isn't doing anything like that. He's just some random guy she asked to date her for a limited time (for reasons not elaborated on in the 6 chapters I could find on mangadex), who's getting his heart broken. And "gilding the lily" made me first think of one of these godawful "male yurifag turns the lesbians into his harem by accident" stories. Its an incredibly unfortunate choice for a title.
For the record, the author has posted several times on twitter that they hate the title but were forced to use it to try to get attention for the series.
>>4295455>>4295448From what you're describing, the original title doesn't make sense either then. The phrase does commonly and almost explicitly refer to men who want to turn a yuri couple into a het threesome.
>>4295455>one of these godawful "male yurifag turns the lesbians into his harem by accident" stories>One ofIs that really so common a thing? I know there's that one that recently got picked up for English localization that everyone was (rightfully) dogpiling on, but I struggle to think of other instances.
>>4295461The original title, I take it? because I saw the post exchange where the english title was suggested by someone else on twitter, so its clearly not that.And the japanese title is kinda dumb too, but a lot less so than the english one.
>>4295463I only read the first 6 chapters and at least in that, nothing even suggests thats happening. And I've seen the phrase used for guys getting inbetween in the sense of getting in the way, but I wouldn't claim expertise on it. If the manga actually does go in that direction, my sympathy for the author being stuck with that unfortunate title they probably don't understand entirely evaporates.
In the second season of Chaser game W there is a korean girl going to Japan to hit on the japanese girl who's in love with the chinese girl. This is the twitter meme, did they copy it and record the drama in just two weeks or is it a crazy coincidence?
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All in the same episode? Dang.
>>4295551It was the second to last episode, they're trying to show a bit of the ennding of all characters. The gyaru didn't have her moment, I hope they're keeping the gayest shit for the last episode when she'll meet her senpai.
no one going to mention the dragon maid movie announcement?
>>4295569You just did.
>>4295569>>4295588And now we have talked about this we can move on
City is getting an adaptation!By Kyanus!
This had potentialis an adaption of a table game, yep, table gamehttps://youtu.be/3SojtgF7LKohttps://x.com/AniNewsAndFacts/status/1837252293550281116
>>4295609>Teren>MisteryYikes
>>4295613>>4294857
>>4295609If only it didn't look so hideous.
>>4295621>Teren>ScriptwriterYikes
>>4295609This "Koikatsu's greatest hits" early 2000s 3D stuff doesn't fly. Not in the era of MyGO and GBC
>>4295569>>4295588>>4295591What's it gonna cover?
What is the chance that the Asumi mangaka actually hires a lesbian escort to do research for the manga?
>>4295823Didn't she joke that it would be a business expense or was that some other mangaka?
>>4294796well it's fun to readat least until the third girl appears
>>4295609looks bad, ill let /u/ watch it in my place. only way im watching it is if it goes maintext
still waiting for the next yuri battle shonen
>>4295911what was the last yuri battle shounen
>https://x.com/CDJapan/status/1837660338453385568CDJapan is taking preorders for Love Bullet v1. It already sold out.
>>4295919In ten minutes it looks like. I wonder if the publisher has been just clearing out previously unsold stock or if they've been doing small reprints. It's also become available again on other websites that previously sold out, but it's been going out of stock again very quickly.
>>4295919its so weird seeing my twitter feed be flooded with random western yuri fans whove never mentioned this series before become die-hard fans overnight, and start making a bunch of fanart.its a good series, but i hope it doesnt just become a fad and support dries up by volume 2
>>4295461Attention from who? It kept the yurifans away.
>>4295938Given its "hook" is getting to see one of the girls make out with her BF ever single chapter, I don't think yuri fans were the target audience. This is for shoujo fans who don't mind either way and I guess for them its attention catching because there is boy in the title. If it was aimed at yuri fans, it would be a ! not a ?!
>>4295948the boy is not even on the covers
Is this yuri?
>>4295951This is how you get ticks.
>>4295951yes, but it's also gross.
>>4295954It would be a good occasion for them to thoroughly examine each other's bodies when they got home.
oh no miyagi is grumpy again
>>4295959Maybe her teeth hurt.
>>4295959Chances of the ln being published in english?
>>4295951There's at least one dork, so yes.
>>4295951Just give me some more agricultural yuri. I'll be willing to save this series even without the author online whimpering.
>>4295726The arc about Kanna and her dad. People speculated S2 skipped it so it could be a movie and they were right
>>4295950The boy isn't even on the cover for most het harem manga, I don't see this as much of an argument.
>>4295975This is not a het harem what are you talking about.
>>4295979That boy not being on the cover has nothing to do with the target audience.
>>4295948>Given its "hook" is getting to see one of the girls make out with her BFSpeak for yourself, prehaps it's a great hook for you since it left such a strong impression. But for me the strange personality and dynamic of the leads is the hook.
>>4295987>Speak for yourselfSis, its literally what the manga is named for. That is the weirdest and weakest cope you could have come up with.
Why aren't there any enemies to lovers yuri?
>>4295960Sendai checked her teeth a bit too hard>>4295961It's very popular, unfortunately I don't know how English publishers pick their titles
>>4295991
>>4295993Diana was too mellow in the TV series, by episode 3 it was already clear she didn't actually hold ill will against Akko.
>>4295968https://mangadex.org/chapter/2227fbfb-b274-4d4a-8a1c-0153ff7d3201Here.
>>4295990the boy is barely thereYoure really blowing this out of proportion.
>>4295990that title is at best a clickbait, hook refers to attention-grabbing elements from the very early chapters. there's no rule saying there can only be one hook for a series. for you the hook might be the het make out sessions but don't be surprised if /u/ readers actually find the dynamics between the female leads more intriguing.
>>4295993Series, not a ship.
>>4295995>>4296013Diakko's cousin then>inb4 westernyour loss
>>4295912Onee-sama and the Giant?
>>4295951So that's how crop circles are made
>>4295927There seems to be genuine readership so it'll be fine for a while. I'm more worried about the possibility of the writing taking a hit now that it's subject to this specific western audience. At least it's not in the 4-page webcomic format
>>4296025what the fuckmeds
>>4295987They don't have any chemistry, at least not in the first volume. There is zero romantic tension between them.
>>4296001>that title is at best a clickbait, hook refers to attention-grabbing elements>the title is clickbait>hook refers to attention-grabbing elementsThis is getting genuinly silly, I don't even particularly care about this random 2000s era yuri ragebait being trodded out, but you're just saying random shit at this point.Of course getting mad about the "guy being in the way" is the "hook", thats why its in the title. You can feel about their character and relationship however you want (I didn't see anything interesting in either of them, since both is pretty bland) but the hook is clearly getting you mad at the guy being in the way, thats why its in the title.Nevermind that its poorly executed, because the guy doesn't seem to matter and isn't actually getting in the way of anything but thats poor execution not intent.Considering the "defense" of it was "bisluts are fine", you don't need to come with some passive aggressive yuri culture shit either, you're reading bislut slop for straight girls, enjoy it but don't try to grandstand about it.
>>4295991Nanoha. Symphogear (Tsubasa/Maria)
>>4296031>the hook is clearly getting you mad at the guy being in the wayAt least from the first volume, it doesn't even do that. It tries more to make you feel bad for him, if anything. Since he's just being ditched anyway, so the only thing his existence adds is getting to draw them making out. He doesn't do anything else and isn't necessary for the actual point of tension, black-hair girl thinking blonde-hair girl should choose music, either.Because it apparently has some rabid fangirl here, don't bother to reply. I don't hate the manga. I just thought it was boring and the boyfriend thing certainly isn't there to get yurifans to read it.
useless princessI Want to Make Black-Knight Fall In Love With Me!My Yuri Started With SlaveryA Vampire of ObedienceSorry, but I’m Not into Yuri (side couples + main couple depending on who winds the harem war)honey crushMy dearest nemesis rock it girlEbisu-sanA witches love at the end of the world5 seconds before a witch falls in loveTankobuWell Done(,) PervertNomura Nao to Kyougoku Hina waMahoako (imitatio x berserga [were enemies off-screen]Mygo!!! (depending on who you ship)swap swapsuperwomen in love (their enemies for like half a chapter)citrus (kinda?)Executioner and her way of life (side-couple)madoka (side-couple)blue dropThats all i could think of, although a lot of them are a bit of a stretch, unless you count one-sided enemies (tsunderes) yuri like 'hana to hoshi', 'gunbured x sisters', or 'tovarisch'
>>4296035meant to reply to >>4295991
>>4296031the first volumes shows she chose him on a whim and is a designated loserhes barely in the way of the yurithis did not get me mad at allMore like "why bother adding a dude??" when you clearly want to write about two girls and the music
>>4295991we just had one>>4296013they carry the series
>>4296037>this did not get me mad at allI did say the execution was shit yeah. He does nothing, and might as well not exist which raises to me the question why she bothered to give him a kissing panel in seemingly every single chapter if she wanted to appeal to people who like yuri?Thats the closest thing to a "problem" I had with the manga. If it had been just about the two girls and music, I probably would have kept reading it.
T-thanks, anon. But I want 2 girls who are actually wanted to kill each other, however fall for each other later.
Sorry, enemies to lovers is still BL territory. Maybe one day we’ll see hard boiled lesbians.
>>4296001>>4296031Both of you are retards who can't even get a basic word right. It's about plot points that makes you want to read more not whatever the fuck you two are using.
>>4296044Find one single person who read more of this because they wanted to see more of the het.
>>4296044And her boyfriend is not a plot point that is supposed to make you want to read more to, as the title suggest, see him fuck off?How is that different from what they are talking about?
>>4296041Even in the cases I can think of, the killing intent is always one-sided at best.
>>4296031>isn't actually getting in the way of anythingI don't read this manga but if this is true, why do anons keep talking about it like it's the most hetshit manga ever written?
For me, it's enemies to lovers (still enemies).
>>4296045The real question is, why is the het there in the first place if the author didn't want people to read it because of it? No one forced the author to give her a boyfriend.
>>4296043"I'm More Dangerous Than You" is the most BL style yuri ive read. they dont start off as enemies, but theres torture, kidnapping, and unconsentual sex by the obsessed stalker, and stockholme syndrome.
>>4296048Because the author decided to not only give the love interest a boyfriend, but also dedicate panels to them kissing regularly, despite the fact that it actually adds nothing to the manga. Not even drama.>why do anons keep talking about it like it's the most hetshit manga ever written?No one does this outside of your head. Its a manga written for a shoujo audience that doesn't care about yuri or not yuri. It is yuri, just bad yuri.
>>4296048I only read one volume, there are a few het makeout pannels. Its literally pointless, its not relevant enough to get anyone mad and want the boy to die.
>>4296052>No one does this outside of your headThis is wrong. I've seen several posts in the past saying it's hetshit and anti-yuri.
>>4296055I only see one post ITT saying its full of hetshit, which is true even if the person seemed to be baiting anyway. As I understand it, the yuri wins (naturally) and the author on twitter seems very defensive of it being yuri despite all appearances, so there is that. But given the entire first volumes content having no romantic tension between the leads at all and the boyfriend being there 'despite' being entirely irrelevant except to let the author draw them making out, I certainly can say with confidence its not written for a yuri audience.
>>4296056the yuri audience is not a hivemind
>>4296056>ITTI didn't say that though.
>>4296054>a fewAt least once per chapter. That's a lot more than what most het manga get.
>>4296058I think a demographic segment that enjoys seeing girls make out with guys can rightly be called "not the yuri audience". You can enjoy het and yuri at the same time, but they are still different things.
>>4296062The manga is 99% the girls and music and 1% het making outGuess what, I am interested in reading more than one volume. Now wonder if the 99 or 1 grabbed my attention.
>>4296063NTA but that anon isn't wrong, this feels like a gimmick to make shoujofags read some musical yuri, mostly now that the girls band genre is in its peak. You can enjoy it but in the end it's a mediocre yuri for newcomers and not everyone will want to read something like that.
>>4296063Lots of people enjoy things that aren't written for a yuri demographic for the yuri in it. Thats totally fine, but if the author adds a guy that does nothing for the story except make out with the love interest, not even really for drama purposes, then its not written for a yuri audience. There is no discussion here unless you want to make an argument on how that made the manga more appealing to people who like yuri?
>>4296063>I am interested in reading more than one volumeDid you? Then mind telling us how long that shit keeps going? Because I see it finished on 6 volumes.
Stop entertaining hetfags.
>>4296064>MusicalSo you really didn't read this one
>>4296067Anon, I cannot read japanese.
>>4296071Sorry, I thought you were saying "I don't care about the het in vol1, because I was interested in reading more music+girls anyway". Well, I'm definitely not gonna buy the first one since its all het anyway, but maybe someone can tell us in a few months/years if its worth slogging through for yuri later.
>>4296069Yeah boo them
The last het kiss is in the third volume, there were none in the second volume. The web has enough material for 13 to 14 volumes. We don't know if the physical publication will survive or get axed too though.
>>4296083And the first yuri kiss was in never
Looks like you can pre-order Love bullet now while it's out of stock.https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/inee/dp/404683627X/
Well... That was a thing, though I'm not sure what exactly.
>>4296133There are girls and they are gay, each with their own partner. What more do you want?
>>4296132If only you put this much effort for some real yuri series that got axed.
>>4296133Did we learn what happened during that onseen scene?
>>4296136No and the two of them had no significant interactions for the entire second half of the show.
>>4296135>some real yuri seriesLike Love Bullet?
>>4296136They had sex. And they are still gay with each other for the entire second half of the show.
>>4296135Good thing that's what we're doing.
>>4296133This is one of those series where im 10 episodes in, and not even sunk-cost is convincing me to finish it. such a nothing show, despite being labeled a character drama >>4296137nta but damn....It was begging to be followed up on, and it was the main reason i was sticking with the show
>>4296133Crap is what I'm calling it, both yuri-wise and story-wise. The rushed "drama" with Mari-chan made me yawn.
>>4296133so in the end, was this the show the scriptwriter told us not to lose hope in anime original yuri for?
>>4296145Nah, that wouldn't make any sense.
>>4296133It was yuri.
>>4296149main off-screen sub-text yuri
>>4296150>sub-text
>>4296133It's DEEP.
This is the best sub-text
>>4296155Should I read this? Will the author die again?
Being Nodoka is suffering.
>>4296147>>4296145Yes. It's her job like all the staff to shill the show and shill she did.Cope and seethe. Otherwise you will keep going at every original she works on thinking "this is the one. This is where she delivers" and be dissapointed every timeYou fucks took shit out of context and hyped yourselves and this is what happens
>>4296133What the fuck was this, seriously?Did the chinese make a graphic for it like they did with YoruKura? With a little peak in episode 1 because of the kisses and in episode 3 because of the small Obunai voicing her thoughts, a huge peak in episode 6 and the rest being a flat line, with a downfall in the last two episodes.Leaving because she wants to become an idol out of nowhere? No yurish end for any of the couples? Fucking Shadowverse did a better job. >>4295545>>4296145It definitely can't be this when she didn't even promote it on her twitter.
>>4296133This whole show felt written by A.I.
>>4296074So as usual, you've been talking shit about a series for hours when you have not even read it?
>>4296160It only has 21ch so might as well check it, one day like everyone else.
>>4296155Someone at Shounen Jump really thought that they wanted Kirara/Cune audience.
>>4296166It definitely is this. Deal with it instead of coming here to overhype every original she makes after this like you people did this show because of the goddamn tweets. You'll forever think "this is where she delivers. This is the one she was talking about" and forever dissapointed yourselves and the rest of the board when her shows keep not deliveringJust watch the shows and wait for some actual yuri before overehyping based on vague tweets
>>4296166>episode 3 because of the small Obunai voicing her thoughtsreally surprised they didnt bring this back up again. was genuinely the most personality a characters had, but it was just a fun trait used for a single episode >Fucking Shadowverse did a better jobthat hits hard...
>>4296176>really surprised they didnt bring this back up again. was genuinely the most personality a characters had, but it was just a fun trait used for a single episodeThree different writers randomly alternating between episodes who didn't bother to make their writing styles feel cohesive. Granted, I'm sure they were strangled by the complete mess that was the overall plot.
>>4296175Shut the fuck up, "dissapointed" retard. We're fucking tired of your trolling.
>>4296167>muh AIAdding this to "pointless complaints that means retard-kun didn't like show" Definitely not bad that we'll have a "boy who cried wolf" moment with AI and no one will care when actual AI writing happens because the overuse of "written by AI" will lead people to assume "oh so another show people don't like. Probably another false alarm" and not care when it actually happens
>>4296179The real trolls are the ones who will keep shilling her originals as "the savior of yuri. G-witch killer" based on these vague tweets because they decided this show wasn't "it". "It" will never come because this show was "it" and you gotta deal with it. I just want people to start praising show because they actually like them instead of because they invented a different show in their heads based on vague tweets
>>4296155ive been meaning to read this for a while. is there any prominent male characters or potential het, or is it like pension life vampire where its practically a yuri but they cant make it official
Have a plan to shamelessly shill and hype up every new original show just to make the graphic plotting crowd's asses burn. They're certainly managing quite well enough even without my help, but it's always better to be sure. Wish me luck.
>>4296163And she didn't see the Anna/Brazilian Miku pics.
>>4296187Did Anna break her leg?
>>4296185>male charactersYes>prominent or potential hetNot really, they're just regular classmates. The only one who will maybe gain some prominence is the teacher but that's because he seems to know a bit too much about dragons, not because he has romantic tension with a student.
>>4296155These two have been such a treat so far.
>>4296191They are so dumb, I love them.
>>4296189It's AI.
Whats fuukos canon hair color? It keeps changing.
>>4296199Blonde
>>4296198>muh AIKill yourself
>>4296151This needs a second season so we can watch the girls starting to get together.
>>4296187I'm sorry but having a Kirara jump while the wheelchair character just has to sit there is peak comedy
https://twitter.com/shoma_keito/status/1834179741982884265Another series that hasn't been saved and, even worse, remains incomplete for us poor idiots who bought the first two volumes.
>>4296225Should have a ramp in there so she could join them
>>4296227https://twitter.com/paderapollo/status/1836966661775315053Oh, and another one. More and more incomplete series on our shelves. Good job!
>>4296227>>4296229Not sure what you are saying, none of those series will be incomplete.
If the author really goes in this direction I will buy enough to make sure it won't get axed like the other trash did
>>4296181I can't make sense of this post, isn't the issue with AI writing that it would supposedly be bad?So in this cry wolf scenario where people don't believe it's written by AI even though it is, they'll still see that it's bad so it doesn't make any difference?And if instead it's good then being made with AI isn't actually a problem, so who cares?
>>4296227You mean Mesuwaka? Seems like it's doing fine, just needs translating.
>>4296163>a brazilian who didn´t scoreinacreditavel!
>>4296232>volume doesn't go on sale>it's not incompleteYou understand very well what it's saying. A bunch of bytes is not a volume, you know they're going digital only because the volumes didn't sell enough. People bought the first two volumes and now they're left without the continuation, Fuck them.
>>4295951Reported to PETP for cruelty to plants.
>>4296039This manga is criminally underrated. Not only does it have cute and sexy characters and good chemistry between them, it's also a heartfelt depiction of the henshin genre that is very rarely seen in manga, not to mention one of the couples has a science daughter.
>>4296265Both of them had science daughters, hard to understand how sometime fucked the next one
>>4296262It's either this or full axe.
>>4296016Their rivalry also lasts too little before Amity becomes butter in front of Luz.
Ladies and gentlewomen, we did it.>>4296274
>>4296044You're saying this in a board that has mangled the word subtext beyond repair.
>>4296273A full axe with all the volumes getting printed gives you the possibility to buy and read the story until the end, unlike this shit that's a big fuck you to all the people who supported the series by buying the volumes. This is how you get people to buy even less because nobody wants to waste money on stories they don't know they'll be able to read until the end.
>>4296041DeathxDeath?
>>4296152>kuroko and ruiko
>>4296240Would rather it not, much prefer monogamy. The way the whole group dynamic kinda blurs the line is cute, but I like that they make it clear the distinction in how Minami and Yuzu feel for each other, or how Tsubasa feels for Kosame (who I'm sure will come around eventually).And I dunno, maybe a love interest will come along for Hinori. Or she'll just perpetually be a fifth wheel.
>>4296227>>4296229I'd be shocked if the same didn't happen to My Friend's Abnormally Cute Sister. Honestly, none of the newer Storia Dash yuri series look like they are selling all that well, which is a shame because I really like most of them.
>>4296278Hello, my name is Stupid, why is this important?Thank you for your time.
>>4296308A thread reached 3000 posts, which has never happened before and will probably never happen again.
>>4296281You are not going to die from reading it digitally anon.
>>4296288I call them agegap reveree hair color adashima
>>4296317Wow, that is mildly neat!Thank you!
>>4296320I see you're a big expert. What do you tell about these two?
Any Yuri of a mafia boss's daughter preying on a helpless older woman?
>>4296317Especially notable because it happened for no particular reason. Most other high post threads are because of new developments in popular shows like Gundam.
>>4296348"Shitposters trolling and samefagging" is not "no particular reason" so please fuck off.
>>4296352>"Shitposters trolling and samefagging"Common place on /u/, nothing notable about it.
>>4296155
>>4296369
>>4296370Momo has canonically rubbed her vagunja on Shamiko's horns, did you know?
>>4296375two kids loving each other? yes why not?
Why is yuri so unpopular? I feel like there are so much more hetshit art even for a yuri or yuri adjacent franchise in pixiv, especially when you look at R18 works. On western twitter, yuri is more popular I guess, but yeah, every yuri NSFW artist usually has also drawn a ton of hetshit and futa. Maybe I'm too much of a purityfag for noticing this?
>>4296378It's misogyny basically. Stories about women are inherently seen as boring to so many people.
>>4296378Of the people who would never watch yuri, it's because most people aren't interested in reading about homosexual romance. Of the people who are open to reading yuri series, but seldom pick up one up, it's because a lot of the tropes/settings/characters that hardcore yuri fans like are off-putting to these types of fans.
>>4296379There are several series with female protagonists that have sold well in Japan though.
>>4296381Yeah, but those are the exception. Realistically speaking the ratio of male-lead to female-lead stories should be about 50/50. Instead it's like 90/10.
>>4296378>>4296379>>4296382Write some better posts.
>>42963824/10 of the ten best selling anime have female protagonists and all-female main casts (Uma, LL, PMMM, and GuP). Clearly these shows did something right to overcome that.
>>4296378Yuri really held itself back by trying to be a romance genre about the purest form of love. People want sex and violence, not artsy shit.The reason R18 yuri isn't more popular is because it's harder to properly draw two people at once.
>>4296378>>4296379>>4296380>>4296381>Why is yuri so unpopular? Because the industry has existed for around 80 years and yuri was basically starting 20ish years ago and it has to face conundrums like the stigma around homosexuality or even basic industry issues like the fact female protagonists usually are unlikeable for most audiences if they are not portrayed as anything but existing for a man, you can easily see this with Frieren or The Apothecary Diaries.>I feel like there are so much more hetshit art even for a yuri or yuri adjacent franchise in pixiv, especially when you look at R18 works. On western twitter, yuri is more popular I guess, but yeah, every yuri NSFW artist usually has also drawn a ton of hetshit and futa. Maybe I'm too much of a purityfag for noticing this?Turn off AI and it will be mostly gone, meaning there is barely any actual effort for it, I will let you look at the profiles of the ones doing it and you can guess which group they are mostly part of.
>>4296400>people want sex and violenceRather than people, I would say that one specific type of audience wants yuri mixed with other plot elements and yuri relationships they don't have to take too seriously. And it's not the only audience that can make yuri popular either.
>>4296400Not only most popular yuri series are romances, there always was sex and violence series and most of them were niche. R18 yuri just isn't popular because porn is inherently self inserting for most of the porn audience.
>>4296379maybe women should start supporting women instead of pouring all their money into yaoi series >>4296382that's because female fans love male protags. Honestly Jump maybe the biggest magazine for female at this point. Look at stuff Haikyu!! that's basically funded by women.Of course men love CGDCD but that's nothing compared to women's love for BL and BL adjacent series like JJK, Blue Lock, Bungo Stray Dogs,...
>>4296421>most popular yuri series are romancesYou have works like Yuru Yuri, MahoAko, and Dragon Maid which are incredibly popular despite not focusing on the romance aspects too much.
>>4296390I can agree in spirit, but all of those except Madoka are in the cute girls doing cute things category with an implicit director role that makes it popular for men to self insert into.
>>4296428Only Uma has a male trainer and he's treated as a joke. GuP/LL barely have any guy characters present.
>>4296265>This manga is criminally underrated.coz it's only good for three volumes
>>4296427Mahoako manga sales are still far below the other two and more in line with how the romances sell, it's below green manga for example.Dragon Maid is more of an series with yuri rather than being the central theme though, which is besides what anon said, he said yuri hold itself by trying to only be pure romances, yuri can also be less yuri is not really the answer for this question, it's like arguing fantasy is more popular with isekai elements, sure but it's not the same profile of work anymore.
>>4296432We don't know how much of the sales for the manga were increased by the anime because they haven't been released yet. >he said yuri hold itself by trying to only be pure romancesI think the other anon said "purest form of love" not necessarily being pure romance. Citrus is pure romance and it sells.
>>4296427>Dragon Maidit's definitely not popular because of the yuri. 90% of this board doesn't even think it's yuri anyway.
>>4296435I would imagine if it broke some metric we would know by now, Citrus is like 99% pure type of romance, stuff like Watayuri and Sasakoi are also selling well. It shouldn't be surprisingn all of those have great artwork too.>>4296436I wouldn't call it a yuri series but it has legit yuri developments.
>>4296436>it's definitely not popular because of the yuri. 90% of the (non-yuri fanbase) doesn't even think it's yuri anyway.I would fit MahoAko and Yuru Yuri into that as well. In fact, it seems like in order to get your yuri to sell, you need to trick non-yuri fans into thinking it's not yuri.
>>4296437>Citrus is like 99% pure type of romanceThe opening chapter has Mai getting kissed by her male teacher, so it's not exactly "purest form of love" type of yuri.
>>4296439This is why I said 99%, you never see the dynamics from the first chapter again
>>4296438Which is something Yuru Yuri never did.
>>4296428Most retarded post in this thread.
>>4296430>three*five
>>4296440There's a male love interest in the most recent arc of Citrus though. And dynamics in the first chapter are important because they are what convince people to pick up a series. Having a guy in the first few chapters helps avoid the bias against all-female casts in yuri among certain types of fans.>>4296442There's a thread up on /a/ right now where someone is convinced that YY is not yuri.
>>4296401Do Frieren and MaoMao exist for a man? Never seen either one of their shows.
>>4296390>all female cast>mountains of hetshit pornI don't understand japan.
>>4296446Anon, I don't think you understand what a male love interest is, first he isn't in love with anyone, second he isn't seen as a plausible romantic candidate either.You mean the bias which didn't stop YY from getting popular or more recently didn't help the series with a reference to guysbin the title from getting axed and the author immediately making a new series without it?>>4296448Frieren whole thing is that she is in love with a dead guy and her whole journey is just a cope, Maomao is literally property of a guy.
>>4296457It clearly had some amount of popularity to last as long as it did. It even had 16k+ fans in Next Manga Awards. The problem with its implementation was that she was too involved with the guy, which turned off hardcore yuri fans. It's a delicate balancing act.
>>4296463But it wasn't close to the popular yuri series, if turning off the hardcore yuri fans (which may not even be true) only gets you this far, then it's evident whatever audience you are talking about is too negligible to even be considered in a discussion.
Straight people prefer straight romance and 95+% of people are straight.There's nothing you can do about it, the only reason yaoi is popular as it is because yaoi is a fetish for straight women.
>>4296465No, yaoi is popular because most popular Samurai tales were full of faggotry and they have existed for centuries.
>>4296464All I'm saying is that there are certain elements that make a series more attractive to certain crowds of yuri fans. To be a popular yuri series, one must appeal to several different types of yuri fans.>>4296467No fujo is thinking about "muh gay samurai" when she picks up a BL manga.
>>4296465>straight romanceAre you talking about the genre that is siowly dying all over the world? From Hollywood romcoms to mexican and turkish soap operas that are more about crime than romance yiu can see that het romance don't sell anymore and romance anime is no exception.
>>4296468And what I am saying to you is that appealing to a small niche audience will get you small niche sales.>No fujo is thinking about "muh gay samurai" when she picks up a BL manga.Use your fucking brain, yaoi is big because it's rooted on popular lore that existed for centuries, their whole theater scene has always been faggy as fuck, when manga became a thing and later so did the doujin culture, the foundation for yaoi communities already existed.
>>4296469To be fair, this has far more to do with the low quality of those which keep pandering to fat 40 losers instead of going for a more relatable approach
>>4296467Look at AO3, this is not a phenomena that happens only in Japan.>>4296469That has nothing to do with my statement. The popularity of the romance genre may fluctuate but people will still prefer straight romance. And I'm not talking about romance as a genre but romance as an element, so that includes romance sub plot as well.And I don't know about the things you're talking about but YA fiction is still going strong and straight romance absolutely dominated that genre.
>>4296472Sure, but only japan and asian countries have a whole industry dedictated to yaoi (and yuri in a smaller scale).
>>4296472>romance sub plotThat it's ignored most of the time in favour of shitty headcanons and the main reason is that most of them are as bad as the romantic subplots of Naruto.>YAAre you talking about porn? It'a weird but I haven't heard of any modern YA since the Twilight fanfic and my most recent reference are people complaining that modern YA is just porn.
>>4296470Having girls romantically reciprocate with guys in yuri is niche, yes. >yaoi is big because it's rooted on popular lore that existed for centuriesModern BL is as related to old samurai stuff as yuri is to Class-S. The modern yuri fan has not read most Class-S works and has no interest in doing so. BL is popular with women simply because it contains tropes that a lot of them want to see. Yuri is less popular because it contains tropes that less people want to see. That's it.
>concern troll is back at it
>we coming up on the 20th kannazuki since kannazuki no miko aired>getting ready to blast Agony and Re Sublimity nonstop like it's summer in the 2000s>tfw gonna pull up to work with MAWARI TSUZUKETE IRU OMOI NI YASURAGI MICHITA OWARI WA KURU NO echoing into the parking complexhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKVbB_qZQcU
>>4296473So? Yaoi is popular because BL is popular, not the other way around. Top 5 AO3 ships were all M/M and none of them comes from Japanese works.
I think the live-action side of the industry will have more consistent success compare to the anime side despite having the quarter of budget tv ainme shows. The last 3 live action show this year basically pander, market to lesbian and girls audiences while ignoring men audiences. In anime, that basically a marketing suicide. Well it may be recency bias case.
>>4296475>Another anon with a very small brain unable to understand a whole industry as big as the rest of the industry wasn't born in a second but because it was ingrained in japanese fiction for centuries.
>>4296480I think you are confusing things here, they are pandering to the live action crowd, which has a bigger female audience, but they are not doing anything to ignore male audiences.
>>4296481>it was ingrained in japanese fiction for centuries.And the reason it was so ingrained is because people wanted to see it. If they didn't, it would have died off, just like Class-S did between the 40's and 90's.
>>4296477Also just going through my oldest yuri folders, the ones as old as that anime and indeed, /u/ itself. The ED embrace was the "cool S" of the early 21st century yurifag. Like crack in 80s black neighborhoods but for people that like anime lesbians.
>>4296478It's just not comparable, it's like comparing fanfics to books.
>>4296482>they are not doing anything to ignore male audiences.Being a drama with a female MC tends to be unpopular with male audiences, it's not rocket science.>>4296483It was funded and popularized by the local elites, that's the main reason for both things. Class S didn't die like the western from lack of popularity but because there was a fucking world war that they lost.
>>4296483Sure, but the point is that it's first a cultural thing, yuri in that era would just be impossible, as women were not much better than slaves and even class S wasn't that much better. It's no coincidence yuri only started becoming a thing when women's role in society started changing from only housewives.
>>4296482While some may not really care about it, i doubt you're usual general live action crowd, women at that, will tuned to a show that market and plastered it's script writer as lesbian, as much same as they market it's main lead. AyaHiro's main team(director,producer, script writer and SalJiang) literally went to a lesbian only event.
>>4296486The ban on both Class-S and heterosexual shoujo romance was lifted after WWII. The fact that the later survived shows that more girls were simply interested in it.>>4296489Sure, but escapist literature exists too.
>>4296485the original post literally complained about the lack of yuri fan arts.Anyways, the point is there's nothing weird about yuri being unpopular as most people are straight
>>4296486>Being a drama with a female MC tends to be unpopular with male audiences, it's not rocket scienceAgain, you are confusing demographics with intent, 20 years ago yuri demographics were mostly female, but turns out those works were in fact attracting a growing male demographic, they didn't wake up one day and realized they liked yuri all along, they were exposed to it at somr extent.
>>4296484>>4296477Was a little before my time if I'm being honest. I was like 2 when it first aired.
>>4296492Fanfiction only exists because there is a whole industry creating and promoting content to begin with, yuri is not more popular because it's very recent to japanese culture.
>>4296481BL is bigger than Japan.There's some literature on fujoshi and most agree that fujos like BL because they want to escape the female role. And some women get jealous seeing other women being portrayed as more beautiful and desired than them.Men don't have anything like that so that's why most of them don't care about yuri.
>>4296491Shoujo survived because Japan was ocuppied by the US army of the 40's and 50's and they tried to "americanize" Japan.>>4296493With "drama" I'm talking about a J-drama or a live-action japanese show with drama.
>>4296495a lot of the fanfiction authors/readers don't even watch/read anything Japanese. Even if Japan didn't exist, they would still create Supernatural BL fanfics
>>4296497>they tried to "americanize" Japan.I'm going to need a citation here. The Class-S genre was inspired by western literature to begin with.
>>4296498>Supernatural BL fanficsI remember seeing that AO3 list of female/female couples and seeing Supergirl/Lena Luthor with an enormous powergap over everything and just thinking "damn there's a whole ass world out there I just have zero contact with despite ostensibly being in similar orbits"
>>4296497I understand what you are talking about, what I am telling you is the same point you are making now you could have made about yuri manga 20 years ago, at some point the male demographic got interest in manga that was supposed to be for girls.
>>4296496>they want to escape the female role.And here we have the real problem. All female casts tend to be unpopular because irl we have very few female dominated fields, this also explains why LL or Uma Musume are so popular, LL extirpated any form of male domination from its setting, no producers, no shady companies and no toxic male fans are portrayed there, something similar happens with Uma Musume because the role of the trainers is the role of a staff member and not a owner, also helps that the girls are kinda like reincarnations of male horses >some women get jealous seeing other women being portrayed as more beautiful and desired than themUntil they are desired by that type of woman, I'm surprised it isn't a yuri trope yet.>>4296499Just read about the US occupation of Japan also the US=/=the West, the WASP society of the US wasn't the same as the french, german or british societies of the 20's and 30's.
>>4296501Not the same thing. How much boys have you seen in any form of japanese media talking about the latest episode of a popular drama? But that's almost a trope when girls talk among themselves in japanese media that's because japanese society still thinks that J-drama aren't for men and that watching them is unmanly and shit like that.
>>4296496Is homosexual fiction and fanfiction a japanese only phenomena? No. Is the question why yuri isn't more popular inherently about japan? Yes.>>4296498But you need supernatural to exist, this is what my point is about, because in the end of the dsy even fanfiction is just a popularity contest.
>>4296503You could make the exame same argument over women reading shonen 30 years ago, nowadays they are more than half of the audience of popular shonen jump manga. Culture changes and so does demographics.
>>4296502They are popular because they feature cute girls in a decent package with a gigantic marketing budget airing on popular time slots.
>>4296506>OG LL>Uma Musume S1>Gigantic marketing budgetUma Musume had the advantages of the codes inside the BDs but nobody expected its massive popularity and LL became popular only after S1. Now that I think about it something similar happened with Bandori.
>>4296504the desire for BL fiction among women doesn't depend on pre existence of BL works. It depends on what I laid out here>>4296496. If BL is popular because of some ancient BL stories then it would also be popular with men.
>>4296509>LL became popular only after S1*S2
>>4296486>it's not rocket scienceWrong.
>>4294994>>4295003>>4295012This got me looking and I found that the page for Valkyrie Drive Mermaid has been on "emergency maintenance" for two weekshttp://valkyriedrive.jp/anime/But the page for the vita game is up and running as alwayshttps://valkyriedrive.marv.jp/bhikkhuni/And the page of the mobage that closed nearly a *decade ago* is up and running somehowhttps://valkyriedrive.marv.jp/siren/index.htmlWhat the hell
>>4296502>the WASP societyHaven't heard about Himenospia in ages. Is it over? How did it end?
>>4296531Downer ending.
>>4296532Pity
>>4296511I am not discussing why they like yaoi, but arguing the foundation for BL to be a big industry of it'a own was already set in motion in japanese culture a long time ago, which is to answer yuri isn't more popular because only a few decades ago japanese male centric culture just would reject something like it and so the culture around yuri is relatively new.
>>4296509Anon, LL was a multimedia project including involving IRL seyuus playing the role of idols, it had massive campaign and it was everywhere when it started, it wasn't some unexpected viral success.
>>4296500Fics represent the majority of my GL consumption the past couple years. It's like a swamp within the swamp.
>>4296534>foundation for BL to be a big industry of it'a own was already set in motion in japanese culture a long time agothe foundation is the role of women in society, it has nothing to do with some old gay samurai stories
>>4296496When you listen to older generations BL authors they will tell you with BL you can do anything, but with girls you are very limited. Even in fiction women are limited to a lesser role and inferior to males. Still lately you have women refuse to read shojo manga and basically anything with female protagonists for the same reason. Stereotypes about girls being "emotional, generous, loving" is seen as a weakness and inferior to males.
>>4295012I'll just say:Mahoako gets the "female tentacles" excuse, and so that also applies to Valkyrie Drive. The tentacles were Mamori, so female
>>4296547It also had the male mud golems. Pretty gratuitous, it feels like they didn't really think that one through.
>>4296549Notice how I only defended the tentacles and not the mud men. One can be defended without defending the other
>>4296532Downer as in not yuri or what? Be more specific.
>>4296547But it was just so weird to add it at the last second, at least Mahoako showed the octopus earlier and later on they switched to Octogirls whereas I'd like it more if a bunch of slime Mamoris molested the girls instead
>>4296549They weren't. They didn't expect the series to get such a big following from women and Yuri fans so they were just putting as much fetishistic stuff they could at first. When they realized the actual audience it was too late to change the anime or the mobage but they tried to cater to them as much as they could with the promo stuff and merch released after the fact.
>>4296556You have to consider none of the staff have done actual yuri or worked on anything for yuri fans. They were targetting their usual ecchi audience from their previous work like Senran Kagura, bunch of het hentai, Seikon no Qwaser, Maken-Ki S2, etc.
>>4296556It was still a weirdly careless inclusion since everything in the anime is otherwise focused purely on yuri fanservice. Making up a cross-media franchise where different parts cater to different audiences, while itself often myopic, is at least understandable in a "the greedy suits think we can grab multiple audiences at once" kind of way, but it's strange to see a rogue example in a single part of the work.
>>4296132Gone once again.
>>4296559TLR didn't have yuri but director of the anime managed to make MahoAko even gayer
>>4296563That''s because he was already working with a yuri source. So he couldn't insert random het scenes like that. Meanwhile, with an original like VD all creative decisions were in the hands of people who had never done yuri and were working for their usual ecchi audience and didn't know what the yuri audience want. The manga for MahoAko being a lot more in tune with yuri and yuri fans make it harder for the director to slip up in the same way
>>4296565>Meanwhile, with an original like VD all creative decisions were in the hands of people who had never done yuri and were working for their usual ecchi audience and didn't know what the yuri audience want.Is it really that hard to figure out the audience that gets really pissed when even a guy is talking to the heroines wouldn't like when you flashbang them with those scenes?
>>4296567Also iirc the manga also had the golem rape so no that's something they thought would sit well with their target audience
>lesbians complaining that other women aren't as gay as they are and consume BL instead of GLClassic.
>>4296569lesbian are open to nl and blstraighties are retarded close minded
>>4296561>the anime is otherwise focused purely on yuri fanserviceThe scenes of the girls kissing or fondling each other are definitely the minority compared to solo fanservice scenes and shots of like, one girl bouncing her giant tits.
>>4296571Dont they make out to transform every single episode?
>>4296570I bet all the het complainers in this thread are straight dudes
>>4296194I wanna see them be little troublemakers now. Accept your new life of crime, Ruri.
>>4296574I wasnt talking about dudes. I dont give a single fuck about males. Its all retarded purityfags.
>its the anti-purity schizo again
>its the purity schizo again
>its the anti-anti-purity schizo again
>>4296561Because it was there specifically to generate "drama"+fanservice. They understood their audience as "girl on girl is hot" and not people who reject het entirely.And at the time they weren't even entirely wrong btw. People clearly managed to tolerate that single fuckup quite easily when VD aired, because it was clearly something the girls didn't like. As opposed to the mobile game.
>MayoPan also ended without yuriPA Works fooled everyone again.
>>4296500I just cannot develop any emotional connection with anything Western. People keep trying to get me into Yellowjackets but it's just like, eh.
>>4296600>Because it was there specifically to generate "drama"+fanservice. They understood their audience as "girl on girl is hot" and not people who reject het entirely.I don't think rapey mud "men" are the best argument for this though, if there was an actual guy fucking the girls you could make this point, even if their audience was the "I want to see girls fucking each other" audience, they still wanted to make a legit lesbian anime, which is inherently male exclusionary.
>>4296602at least it got some DV in
>>4296615Because unlike japanese stuff where there is subtext or at least some level of pandering, western shit is 99% of the cases pure headcanon of girls who are clearly interested in guys.
>>4296535partly, but what this anon says is true too: >>4296509In the beginning these series did not have the popularity they have today, I started with the anime of those 3 (Uma, LL and Bandori) and I remember the little traction or discussion in general that they had, even Doujins and fanart were few, especially compared to today.but even back then the 3 had something in common, yuri people were the ones who really gave a shit about these series.>>4296506Don't put them in the same category as a harem/het/romcom, in those series the girls are deliberately displayed as objects of desire and the protagonists are so simple, that they can be interchanged with other boys from similar series.
>people still expect maintext anime originalsRetards
>>4296602that was the worst ending yuri-wise even by Japanese standards unless they already have a sequel planned this is gotta be the biggest dissapointment this year they made the entire climax a joke and the relationship barely changed from the beginning
>>4296631ave mujica will have maintext yuri
>>4296628>In the beginning these series did not have the popularity they have today, I started with the anime of those 3 (Uma, LL and Bandori) and I remember the little traction or discussion in general that they had, even Doujins and fanart were few, especially compared to today.Nothing does, even the biggest japanese success of all times, which is Kimitsu no Yaiba, only got popular when the anime was announced and they started promoting it everywhere, the progression which LL went was expected by their planning, though it's unlikely they thought it would get that big.>Don't put them in the same category as a harem/het/romcom, in those series the girls are deliberately displayed as objects of desire and the protagonists are so simple, that they can be interchanged with other boys from similar series.I am not, I am simple stating there are obvious reasons those series managed to be so popular and they go down to basic business practices.
>>4296602>>4296639Maybe because it's not a romance series and it's pretty clear that it was a comedy from the beginning?The problem isn't the series itself, but having unrealistic nerd expectations, as I said in the dead PA thread, no matter what happened in the end, people were going to complain stupidly.
>>4296647Between who? The girls are too autistic to get together.
>>4296602>>4296639It had the standard subtext PA finale. Unless they market it as yuri since the beginning it's better to not expect anything more yuri than Aquatope from that studio.
That’s why we need a hayacoco anime.
>>4296498>>4296500Here's the list from last year. MHA, AoT, LWA, and Haikyuu are the only Japanese media that made it on.It's always funny to me that there's a random soccer RPF in the top 100, but I looked it up and both women are actually lesbian and actually dating
>>4296651>Kimitsu no YaibaEven I remember that people only gave importance to Nezuko's legs and I only started to see people raving about the anime when the pillars appeared, after that I mysteriously found out about the death of the Sun Pillar through fanarts (I'm not a fan of this, that's what I looked at on the main page of danbooru when I entered)Still, you ignore that it was the gacha in the 3 series that shot up the popularity, but what I always noticed in the first seasons of those 3, is that yuri was always a more important part of what many want to recognize, it seems that it is the "fans" who want to take away merits from yuri in general.>>I am not, I am simple stating there are obvious reasons those series managed to be so popular and they go down to basic business practices.You also have to consider the large amount of series focused on only or mostly female characters that end up failing, even if you consider that the character designs are not at all different from the ones that became popular, Puraore! Pride of Orange had the same character design as Bandori and they looked like LL characters.
>>4296660From that studio or any, really. Just watch adaptations
>>4296602Weird, my comment looked like it was posted and wasn't. Sorry if it's repeated.Yuri-wise Masaki at least showed jealousy over who this Ai person is, since she was pouting when asking Live.But I agree subtext is too underwhelming and studios should just stop doing it.
>>4296681>studios should stop doing it>maintext adaptations keep being failures, meanwhile Lyco and GBC keep selling shittonsI also wish for maintext, but I'm not delusional about reality. Maybe we'll get another VD style fanservice yuri original as a response to MahoAko's success
>>4296680These aren't good either because they don't get to the good part and have low budget. It's rare to have something worth it.Personally I'd prefer just audios of good seiyuus reading and acting out the material since the visual aspect is normally badly done. So, something like an audiobook but done by several pro's.
>>4296680>Just watch adaptationsWorked great for Sasakoi.
>>4296683Fair enough. What we need then is something like yuri sharia. Is it maintext? Spend money. Is it not? No money. But to get there we need a prophet who's willing to radicalize the Japanese herbivore base.
>>4296668No, there is a graph showing the evolution of the manga sales, when the anime started being promoted it started to grown exponentially. Love Live was already a gigantic franchise before gatcha was even a thing, it just made it last for one more generation. I wouldn't say "yuri" but the character dynamics, they actually tried to play it up on sunshine but turns out messing with shipping is a mess of itself.>You also have to consider the large amount of series focused on only or mostly female characters that end up failing, even if you consider that the character designs are not at all different from the ones that became popular, Puraore! Pride of Orange had the same character design as Bandori and they looked like LL characters.This is part of how business works, not everyone can be popular, rather the popularity of one will directly affect how popular the others can be.
>>4296690The reason for subtext success is that it appeals beyond the yuri fanbase. Even if that happened, it's still rules non-yuri fans (bigger group than yuri fans) wouldn't follow, and thus we don't guarantee failure for subtextYou speak of the JP herbivore base. But the western side also has people happy to support subtext and non-canon shipping and telling them to only support canon and that it doesn't count if not canon will get you yelled at (even Jelly had shippers supporting it after the end on the english speaking side. Saw a lot of divide on Twitter instead of a unified dislike of the show.). The only place where most yuri fans are dedicated like that is China. JP has herbivores problem and anglo fans have shipper/coding problem where they're happy to support subtext if "coded" enough and they'll even say you're homophobic if you point out their fav subtext pairing is not canon and doesn't count
>>4296687Of all the problems that had, lack of romance/being limited to subtext is not one of themIt still was clearly maintext explicit romance even with the tragedy of what was skipped
>>4296683>FailuresI wish you would stop saying ignorant stuff, adaptations are low budget, low marketing operations, most of them are doing what they were projected to do if not better, you retards have to stop treating everything as if they had the same level of expectation, show me a single yuri adaptation with the same budget and marketing as lycoreco or GBC, we know Lycoreco went far beyond what they expected of it, but we don't know if internally GBC wasn't expected to become a bigger franchise rather than just flavor of the month.>>4296687A single episode of Sasakoi was better than some well animated "subtext" series because the contents actually had some deep to it instead of just being random fanservice that went nowhere.
>>4296699Any maintext had more marketing than Lyco, really. And for GBC, that's the usual marketing for musical stuff because they want to promote the seiyuus as a real life band instead of just a show. Lots of subtext hits like Symphogear weren't expected to ever get that big. If your cope of maintext actually succeeding is right: asnwer me this: why have we never gotten a non-ecchi maintext original until Gundam Witch? And even Witch had the suits afraid of yuri and limiting the episodes to half a normal Gundam show and doing the "open to interpretation" and interview censoring shit, which really shows how little faith JP suits in charge of letting stuff air and be made have in original yuri
In the end, Masaki and Live are still the main pair and a strong one at that so it's still a win.
>>4296701>why have we never gotten a non-ecchi maintext original until Gundam Witch?Because Gundam as a franchise is too big to fail. The suits know they can take a risk because there are multiple side projects that can keep the cash flow while they prepare a safer new big entry.Also, if I recall, no maintext original, het or otherwise, ever made it big. Every success is an adaptation of something and off the top of my head I don't remember any series or franchises that disproves this.
>>4296602It had a pretty good bonding scene between Masakichi and Live, and an oneeloli scene, so it can't be called anything than a win.
>>4296704 (Me)>Every success is an adaptation of something and off the top of my head I don't remember any series or franchises that disproves this.Besides Madoka, that is.
>>4296697>Saw a lot of divide on Twitter instead of a unified dislike of the showThere's no need for a unified dislike of something. Not even a majority. If the yuri shia rigorously wait until confirmation to spend money, the subtext market will take a small but important loss in revenue. Not all of them are lucky like LR or GBC, and it'll hurt.
>>4296706Madoka succeeded as subtext first (TV show) before it went maintext with Rebellion
>>4296701>Any maintext had more marketing than Lyco, really. Nope, most maintext stuff barely has any outside of twitter.>And for GBC, that's the usual marketing for musical stuff because they want to promote the seiyuus as a real life band instead of just a show.Which is hundreds of times bigger, literally.>Lots of subtext hits like Symphogear weren't expected to ever get that big.Nothing gets bigger without a marketing budget, it's what marketing is for, to potentialize success, even Symphogear did not have a small budget like maintext yuri series do.>asnwer me this:I am not sure what you are talking about since we had maintext originals before, unless you are specifically talking about romance focused anime. The expectations of maintext adaptations are relative to how much money they are investing on them and how much new costumers they bring to the source material, it's also the reason why you almost never see more seasons, there is no point in promoting it further since the target audience is small and you likely already got all the costumers you would have by now. If they are making original anime they have a different set of expectations since their main focus is not to promote a source content. Ultimately even Bandai recognized how silly it was to make that argument to begin with, the director got the approval to put and end to this discussion and with each iteration subtext anime is becoming less subtle, most likely because there are several ones doing the same thing every year and they need something to attract this audience too, because they are money spending one.>>4296704>>4296706It really depends what is the definition of big here, even Madoka is a drop in the ocean compared to shonen jump stuff.
>>4296699>A single episode of Sasakoi was better than some well animated "subtext" series because the contents actually had some deep to it instead of just being random fanservice that went nowhere.Not really because the couples in most subtext shows are way more interesting than the boring couples from Sasakoi.
>>4296620No, if they were female mud golems you'd have a point but no, even MahoAko knew the assignmentAlso the whole subplot of Mamori and the governor
>>4296715I don't think you understood what I said at all, the narrative is not "the girls are just messing around because there are no guys around", in the end the governor was (shocking) a woman after all.
>>4296711>we had maintext originals before,Like what? Akanesasu or HinaLogi? People here will tell you they don't count because not enough confirmationOther than that, we have ecchi stuff like Valkyrie Drive and Seven Mortal Sins (this one https://anidb.net/anime/12324) that have scenes people here don't like of monsters/mudmen/tentacles molesting the girls
>>4296720>Like what? Akanesasu or HinaLogi? People here will tell you they don't count because not enough confirmationI don't really care about the arguments of dumb subhumans, the fucking words maintext and subtext are not a subject of how people feel about them but are cut clear definitions. Do the girls in those series express their feelings by words or actions in unambiguous ways? If we those are maintext. If people want to talk about uncommited couples, then fucking use words that describe this instead of using the words subtext and maintext in the wrong way.
>>4296723NTA but Hina Logi has a kiss between two girls even if it was behind a curtain of sorts.>>4296713Very few subtext couples are as interesting as AkiShiho or AkiMiki>>4296711I think that anon was saying that we didn't have a very popular anime original, in general even outside yuri, since Madoka.
>>4296720>Like what?Yuri Bear Storm is a clear example of a maintext original
>>4296728Symphogear was very popular in Japan as was Yuuki Yuuna, if we're talking about big anime originals in general. You don't get several seasons (both) and all the side LNs Yuuki Yuuna has without making it big. Just because something is unkwown outside of JP, it doesn't mean it's a failure
>>4296729I always forget about that. Probably because it's hidden behind 7000 walls of weird symbolism. I know it more as weird Ikuhara symbolism stuff than as actual yuri somehow
>>4296729That one was a recipe for success until we realized Ikuhara was the chef. Not even Akiko Morishima doing the art could save it.
>>4296734>I always forget about thatYeah I can't fault you, it almost never comes up on /u/ nowadays
So there wasn't even blood sucking sene?What a ripoff.
>>4296754There was Masaki feeding Live as a loli and saving her life. I wonder whether there will be a continuation like manga or something. I just hope it's not gachashit. Please not gachashit.
>>4296754They didn't reach one million subs so the promise is still unfulfilled.
>>4296665>I looked it up and both women are actually lesbian and actually datingOkay RPF is weird as fuck no matter what, but I can't quite quantify if it's marginally more or less weird that the thing they're all fantasizing about is a real romantic relationship as compared to just coworkers or some shit.
>>4296729Although leaving aside the Ikuhara symbolism (Sarazanmai sucks by the way) for me the problem with Yuri Kuma Arashi, is the lack of chemistry of the main couple, not even with the backstory explained the couple worked and even with them together at the end, it still didn't work honestly.If you're only interested in saying it's yuri text, this is your series, but if what you're looking for is a good yuri couple, look elsewhere.
>>4296805I don't know what to tell you, it's my favorite yuri anime by far
>>4296719>in the end the governor was (shocking) a woman after all.Yes and it took until the second to last episode for everyone to figure it out, Mamori's forced drama was product of that shitty twist the audience saw from the first second
>>4296805nta but is it worth finishing if i didnt care for the first ~5 episodes? the show is incredibly repetitive with the first 4-ish episodes following the exact same formula, then the kuma flashback is just the same gag repeated for most of it. i tried watching it on three separate occasions now
>>4296813Sure, but ultimately she is used to reinforce Mamori's feelings, as shitty as it was done, you can't have high standard for what is basically porn after all.
>>4296809As I said, my problem is not the anime itself (you could even say that it is among the best that Ikuhara has to offer), the plot itself is coherent, but the main couple, which is something important considering that this is a yuri series, just doesn't work.When was the last time you saw someone without any irony consider that main couple as good or someone's favorite?
>>4296620>which is inherently male exclusionary.To us. But even for many (no longer most, I hope but I can't be certain) authors of actual yuri their protagonists aren't "lesbians" they are girl x who is in love with person y (who is a girl). Now imagine how much less some girl on girl ecchi writer thinks of them as "lesbians" i.e. excluding men rather than happening to be with a girl because it maximises the naked girl flesh on-screen.This is how all the "yuri" ecchi stuff worked, Queen's Blade, Seikon no Qwaser (with Katja), SDS, Bikini Warriors and also Valkyrie Drive. The existence of a male exclusionary non-shoujo audience isn't something that registered with the industry until fairly recently, until then these had no guys because there was no need for them and because in their mind girl on girl isn't real sex, for the purityfags.
>>4296818>Seikon no Qwaser (with Katja),in the manga shes a lesbian its explicitly writen
>>4296818You may note I didn't say "yuri anime", I said "lesbian anime", the director actually talked about this once, Valkyrie Drive has lesbianism as an actual theme, the girls getting arrested and thrown in an island being excluded from society was meant to be very in the face about it. Though yes, most yuri protagonists probably don't identify as anything and only care about the person they are in love with.
>>4296820Degenerates proving once again to be yuris only true ally. Though Hana is also explicitly a lesbian in the anime, but I think my point got across regardless.
>>4296816>When was the last time you saw someone without any irony consider that main couple as good or someone's favorite?Literally the person you're replying to considers them their favourite. I dunno what to tell you, quality is subjective and I dunno why you think someone needs to seek validation/approval from others before stating a certain couple/show is their favouriteThis is the problem with objectivity cultism. You circlejerk your idea of "objective consensus" and when someone with opposite views comes you act like it's the worst thing ever because they dared speak against "objective consensus" instead of being a robot and mindlessly agreeing.
>>4296822Of they wanted to make a lesbian anime, they wouldn't have had the mud men nor the mobile game. The conclusion here is that they maybe intended to use lesbianism as a "theme" (and I also remember that discussion around the statement back then, especially because the vita game was a lot more true to it), that matters, in the anime at best.
lol when manga have explicit lesbian characters thay are accused of being "too preachy"
>>4296822>most yuri protagonists probably don't identify as anything and only care about the person they are in love with.There was a reson for that speech in WataOshi by Rae. You can say it's forced or clumsily handled but there was a point made of shutting the "she happened to fall in love for a girl" narrative to make it clear that Rae can only ever love girls and she fell for a girl because she's lesbianProbably MagiRevo's author had the same idea when he wrote that flashback of Anis declaring herself a lesbian who doesn't want to marry a man everThe amount of "it's because you're my special person. It's OK if it's you" narratives that seem to make it like MC's love interest is an exception or something
>>4296822NTA but using lesbianism as a theme or motive, isn't the same as making a lesbian anime. I will also say, that the mud men were supposed to be a vile threat, so the characters weren't supposed to like it, just the audience. Which anon is right, was not meant to be yuri purists.
>>4296826The mudmen can be seen as a rejection of heterosexuality by Miriei and her tormentor. The idea was to torment Mirei and then Mirei not giving in to the disgusting sensations and tormentHet framed as disgusting to the characters. Even if they wanted to have their cake and eat it by fetishizing the scene and that made it miss the intention. The gacha has no defense yeah
>>4296828>The amount of "it's because you're my special person. It's OK if it's you" narratives that seem to make it like MC's love interest is an exception or somethingTo be entirely fair, yuri is strongly rooted in that schoolgirl/first love romantic, where girls need to figure out that feeling they have no name for. Its somewhat difficult to convey they are interested in girls in general, while exploring that "gay awakening" between two girls.There is definitely less emphasis on "its okay if its you", which is good though.
>>4296754>So there wasn't even blood sucking sene?We got a brutal punch to add to the chart
>>4296833>The mudmen can be seen as a rejection of heterosexuality by Miriei and her tormentor. The idea was to torment Mirei and then Mirei not giving in to the disgusting sensations and tormentThat is almost certainly true.
>>4296825No, I was referring to the main couple and that I had no problem with the anime and yes, the couple can be judged objectively and without resorting to personal tastes, because I am talking about an integral element for a yuri series, a yuri couple.
>>4296837>the couple can be judged objectivelyWhat are the objective paramters a yuri couple needs to be "good"? >the couple can be judged objectively and without resorting to personal tastes, because I am talking about an integral element for a yuri series, a yuri couple.The first half of that statement has nothing to do with the second half. A yuri couple being integral to the yuri work doesn't make it something that can be "objectively" judged. That would require there to be a correct way to make a yuri couple, when in reality different people can have wildly different tastes in what makes a couples chemistry good or not.
>>4296826Mud men were treated as a bad thing rejected by the MC, the fact the scene is sexualized does not chance what it is about, it's still just a porn anime after all, it's not the most refined work of art.>>4296830At this point we are just discussing semantics, the characters are supposed to be lesbians.
>>4296805>if what you're looking for is a good yuri couple, look elsewhere.Yeah, like in subtextkino.
>>4296828The whole narrative falls apart if this isn't the case with both series, Rei would not be the same character and Annisn would have been forced married to a guy if she didn't have a strong rejection to them.>>4296834Yes, most stories are about young characters experiecing first and likely only love, so there isn't much of a reason for the author to touch those themes either, though the wording some authors have used is also annoying nips
>>4296843the manga maybe? people seem to say good things about the yuri in the Yuri Kuma Arashi manga at least.>>4296839So the main yuri couple is not important in a yuri series, the couple doesn't need to have chemistry or really work together, the important thing is to exist and be text.
>>4296850No, he is saying your interpretation of the couple in the series is retarded
>>4296834with teens okbut even adults do this crap
>>4296850And you fall into the "objective consensus" bullshitJust because lots of people and yourself think they don't work, that doesn't make it an "objective statement". Here's someone who loves the show and the couple and think they're great. Because even the quality of yuri coupels and their romance is subjective, despite what you and others might believe. It's fine for you to think the anime fails and the couple is shit, just like it's fine for the other anon to think the anime and the couple is greatThere's no objectivity to this. A good example is sasakoi: Some find Yori and Himari to be too vanilla, basic and boring and thus don't mind the anime skipping their stuff in favour of the more dramatic and dynamic Shiho and Aki pairing. Others don't find Shiho and Aki so great or simply love Himari/Yori and thus are sad when the anime skipped the festival and kiss
>>4296856Adults wirtten like teens is a problem that happens outside of yuri. To not go far, last season's super marketed shonen: Kaiju 8. One of the main complaints is that Kafka is written in many ways like your typical teen shonen MC despite being 30 and that his age doesn't make much difference to the writing. I've seen other adult non-yuri shows face this complaint. There are some people who due to influence or whatever, can only write behavior that is more suited for teenagers and thus fail when they try adults
>>4296856Usually when adults do this the story is not particulary well written, see.pink candy kiss for example that traded characters development for MC remembering she is also into girls and realizing this is why her attemps of relationships with guys failed
I was ready for yet another absolute trash end after reading the comments here but I didn't see anything wrong with it. I mean, it didn't go full yuri but that was to be expected, at least it kept it coherent and ended it with an emotional moment between the main pair, that's already infinitely better than all the original anime we had in the last few years that went full retarded in the last episode(s).
>>4296861In romcom and harem women are usually not written beyond the mindset of 11yr, there is no difference between teasing master girl and Nagatoro for example, despise the age gap.
>>4296863I really wanted to like it but who the fuck simply forgets their highshool sweetheart to go ride cocks? For like 20 years.
>>4296828>Anis declaring herself a lesbian who doesn't want to marry a man everWhy didn't she tell the old council guys that when they started talking about her (and in front of her) as if she was livestock?
>>4296865At least Masaki admitted that Live is "the vampire who knows her best" and seemed relieved that Ai and the tragic story of 20 years before are false. She didn't sneak out of town to die on an island, didn't decide to move away to be an idol, didn't disappear after muh golf, and we were given them together continuing their antics while still having the goal to accomplish instead of a calendar and no interaction in the finale. For subtext, it's above all the others. I'd also add that the way the other vampires look at them is quite meaningful. And even Mother and Yuki gave them their approval pretty much.
>>4296868In this point of the story she was willing to take responsability as the queen because of the guilty over her brother and the fear she may have erased the real Anis, she does have a strong reaction to them talking and starts vomiting.
>>4296815>she is used to reinforce Mamori's feelingsWas it? She never confessed to Mirei, let alone apologized for ignoring her feelings
Another gay ending this season.
>>4296833>>4296842>het fanservice in yuri is ok if the girl does hate it afterwards ...
>>4296886>in yuriits not
>>4296876I think having sex with her was enough anon.>>4296886It's not, but it's not really enforcing the idea they are not lesbians either.
>>4296865It was a great show, they even revealed they already made their promise when Masaki was a little girl.
>>4296870>it's above all the othersNot when one had a love confession>>4296152
>>4296907>secondary shit characters with 0 relevance >it's clearly friendshipYeah no. Stop trying to shill that mediocrity. I regret watching it and don't even want to watch the last episode
>>4296886I did say that wanting to have their cake and eating it by also fetishizing the scene for the viewer made them miss their intentions. There was an idea there, but they got to greedy and horny and fucked up
>>4296923Why do they give so much importance to a scene that lasts a few seconds, is irrelevant in the end and even the girl who caused it is completely ignored afterwards?It also can't be put on the same level as real het moments, since those earth golems weren't even real, in contrast to other series where the het moment actually happened, similarly ignored but it's real (and silly).
>>4296865>>I was ready for yet another absolute trash end after reading the comments here but I didn't see anything wrong with it. because you don't have to take seriously the silly complaints of people who don't value something for what it is, but for what they want it to be.Many complaints are not based on whether a series did something wrong or used its elements poorly, but rather people complaining that the series is not as smart as they are and did what they wanted.
>>4296878>>4296879Frankly, I wish the author would realize the potential they have with these two and if he is smart (or mean) then we would have a strong basis to make fun of BHA and its fans.
>>4296878>>4296879>Thanks Shy for protecting my smile>No problem ma'am, i am a Kamen Rider after all...
>>4296865Masakichi owes Live sex
!!!handholding alert!!!!!!handholding alert!!!!!!handholding alert!!!
Is it wrong to ship Abby and Ellie?
>>4296952yes.
>>4296952To answer this question we must first understand the Aristotelian distinction between ethical wrongness and aesthetic wrongness. Start with the Nicomachean Ethics and then move to Poetics.
Reginetta san no bouken is a Yuri HBut is kind of dumb, include slime girl
>>4296654cucumber going menhera
>>4297007Simoun, weird as it is, is one of the few things that has pretty much all the categories on the right
>>4297011For me it's Raana x Nyamu. They have to tie Raana to Ave Mujica somehow after all.
Is there a term for these premium jp manga volumes? the ones that are slightly bigger than average, and cost ~900 yen instead of ~600? They feel infinitely better and higher quality, it feels so nice to flip through, its really hard to go back to the shitty cheaper ones, and even harder to go back to the godawful western volumes.Also i couldnt find this Yui-san volume bonus scanlated anywhere, so i scanned it.
>>4297046It's called Kirara manga.
>>4297048i have a few that arent kirara manga that are like that though
i think the mayonaka punch finale was really good, easily the best show of the season. People saying it wasnt yuri are on copium, kissfags need not apply
I think the nanare finale was really good, easily the best show of the season. People saying it wasnt yuri are on copium, kissfags need not apply
I think
>>4297087
>>4297007P*rity sisters on the left.
>>4297088
>>4297046I generally see them referred to by the paper size. The larger ones you are referring to are A5, and the more common smaller ones are B6.
>>4297011I thought she was already nuts. Or are we talking something like kidnapping?
despite the art being a bit ugly at times, i still find myself coming back and reading 'Fuwari' every few months. its pretty comforting
>is the best currently on-going yurihow did they do it?
>>4296038Watching episode 2. Holy shit, the sexual tension between these chicks is insane.Have they done something in the source?
>>4297156Is this a Danganronpa spinoff?
>>4297156I didn't really like the first chapter, but it grew on me. Shame it is definitely going to be axed.
>>4297160Maybe the author shouldn't have pallete swapped bocchi.
>>4297160You say that to every new yuri manga. Are you aware that your "predictions" have no value even if you got them right since you just bruteforce it?
>>4297170He is right though, this series is definitely getting axed early on, it's funny how you can tell just by looking at the cover at 90% of the time, I guess the first impression does matter a lot.
Ajisai had the skill to get a Shimaidon with Renako and Haruna!
I'm always a bit disappointed when I open a manga and there's no author's note at the end of the volume.
>>4297185I expect my yuri to be filled with paratexts, learnéd commentaries, and marginal glosses
>>4297158Just wait until you get to the boob groping.
>>4297158They kiss for the first time at volume 7, though it's not directly stated they did.
>>4297158lol no, it is known as wasted potential the series for a reason
"renako"schizo is off his meds again huh
On her birthday, say something nice to the cutest girl with the most adorable smile.
>>4297212>Here for you sendai, a gift>But it's your birthday... I also got you a gift>I don't want it>But>Don't do anything unecessary>Miyagi>Miyagi>Miyagi>No>It's not fair>There is no rule saying we have to be fair
>>4297212Drunk birthday sex!
Was SHY the only show this season with a yuri kiss? Can't say I expected that at the beginning of this season.
>>4297265Anna kissed multiple girls though?
>>4297265Dead Dead Demons DeDeDeDeDeDestruction had one on the lips.
Happy anniversary of the event that defined a generation. The average Shizuma fangirl's probably researching iPS cells, while the Tamao concubines are probably complaining why character.ai doesn't allow NSFW chat.
>>4297387>the event that was briefly a meme in a very small subsection of a niche internet community
>>4297387>that part where Shizuma dies after explaining her medical condition of spontaneously combustingI cri every tiem ;_;
>>4297387ALL THE THINGS SHE SAIDRUNNIN THROUGH MY HEAD
>>4295959Whats written on Sendai's shirt? MILK?
>>4297420It wasn't rape. She wanted it.
>>4297420Why were all the bitches so gay at this school anyway
>>4297424Why not?
>>4297424it was the etoile influence
>>4297425I dunno, like I get it's a yuri setup but even as a kid I was perplexed at how many couples there were.
This axe isn't just getting stopped, it's getting shattered into a million pieces.
>>4297430wish we got a princess of the sylph bonus chapter about how theyre about to be axed now
>>4297420>Yayas then did the rape>Yayas now get rapedWhat went wrong?
>>4297430I wouldn't have expected The Boss would be popular in Japan.
>>429738718 yearsMy anger is now an adult.
>>4297430>posting males
>>4297430>Hourly ranking
>>4297464that rule is fucking stupid when used to shutdown yuri discussion
https://x.com/shukura_fb/status/1838881128788230476
>>4297474You don't need to post here if you don't want to, please take the image spammer with you in the way out
>>4297470https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/ranking/From what I can see, it was in the weekly top ten for last week despite only becoming available on the 22nd and was first in the daily ranking yesterday.
>>4297477that rule serves no one when applied to sfw images that's relevant to yuri discussion
>>4297475Cutest roommates.
>>4297422MEGA MILK
>>4297424It's hotter that way.
>>4297493Lol no, mega milk is just for hetsluts.
>>4297493It's more like completely average milk.
>>4297493Not too big, but bigger than Miyagi's.
>>4297482Don't reply to concern trolls.
>>4297475>tall Shimamura
>>4297502Shimamura if she grew in height instead of width.
>>4297496You sure?
>>4297505>Dragon MaidYes
>>4297506
>>4297475Boring asexual couple, i sleep
>>4297482Rules are meant to stop slippery slops, like the posting of guys because they look like girls like it's happening on several threads on this board.
>>4297513Fuck i thought it was adachi to Shimamura shit*Still a shit couple though
>>4297513They have more sex in one week than what you will have your whole life (which to be fair could be any number above zero).
>>4297516Also have more sex in one week than you will ever have, which again is more than zero.
>>4297430>ABBA>Bruce SpringsteenI guess these days even grandmas order online
>>4297185I know. Surprisingly ZenKowa's first 2 volumes have none. Maybe Kuwabara's worried about giving too much about the story away.
>>4297543Love Bullet is being rescued by actual boomers.
>>4297185I've never read authors' notes, interviews, tweets or anything.
>>4297543I mean, young people aren't buying physical releases (unless they are some kind of collector freaks).
>>4297550It can be both good and bad. On the one hand, you can read some interesting background lore on how the story came to be its current interation, like Yuri Is My Job and KyouKano. But at the same time some authors go so far as to basically spoil their own future plot points, like Kuwabara did with ZenKowa on several occasions. Also, some authors you find out had a completely different interpretation of their own story than you did. Which can help you dodge some bullets and know when to drop a series, or can help some things you apparently read differently suddenly make sense.
>>4297430It's sold out again now.
Kita singing Won (*3*) Chu Kiss Me!https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HbsmedEvx/
>>4297583Is this the character singing or the VA?
>>4297586The character.
ZenKowa's third volume acrylic stand is Halloween themed and has Kurumi as a vampire and Naoi as a black cat girl. Some blood on them in the image with it implied Kurumi sucked Naoi's blood due to the fang marks on Naoi's neck. Volume drops in October.
I wanted to suggest making a class of 09 thread a few days ago but I guess not anymore...
>>4297590>class of 09What is this? Your elementary school class?
>>4297185I like the ones that are completely insane.
>>4297592no, its a western vn
>>4297595>westernAnd I'm out.
>>4297594Wich oneeloli manga has this?
>>4297387Tamao...
>>4297594Itou-sensei, is this yours?
>Thereupon the people agreed upon a woman for their ruler. Her name was Himiko. She occupied herself with magic and sorcery, bewitching the people. Though mature in age, she remained unmarried. She had a younger brother who assisted her in ruling the country. After she became the ruler, there were few who saw her. She had one thousand women as attendants, but only one man. He served her food and drink and acted as a medium of communication.Was she the first yuri?
I didn't expect that the final episode of the braindead drunken vtuber show would make me so emotional.
>Rewatch MagiRevo>Want more>Decide to check out the manga instead of going right to the LNs>Read manga>It hasn't even made it as far as the anime didErrors have been made.
>>4297730The manga is an adaptation of the anime. We don't even know if it will continue past it.
>>4297731I don't think it is, given the manga started 3 years before the anime aired? It just has a very inconsistent schedule. Like I think it's gone on hiatus twice in the past year alone? New chapter due out at the end of October though so yay for that, I guess.
>>4297731>>4297732The manga has been a thing far before the anime and is a different adaptation in tone for a lot of scenes.
>>4297735I'd say they're tonally pretty similar, only real difference is that the manga has a couple more scenes that the anime cut for time, mostly based around the political side of the story. Normally I tend to be pretty critical of cuts like that, but here I find that the anime maintains a better pace, especially with regards to the core relationship. In the manga I felt like it gets sidelined at times, and I found myself questioning why exactly Euphie developed feelings for Anis, an issue I never had with the anime, which I felt communicated that very well. Also like how the anime gives Ilia and especially Tilty larger roles. Though there are a couple scenes I wish had made it into the anime, like Tilty strangling her dad or Anis saying Euphie was hers when interrogating the general's son.
It already covered the most important part.Do they end up getting together?
>>4297738The manga has a lot more comedy that wasn't like this in the original, while the relationship is still sidelined like it was, the anime had filler that added to their relationship.
>>4297741Given that they have a sex scene extra in the novels, yes.
>>4297738I think the 'I'm not interested in men. If I have to marry someone, let it be a girl!' scene or the scene where she imagines herself sitting on a throne surrounded by girls didn't make it to the anime either.
>>4297743Nice. Which one?
>>4297751What the anime didn't have (mostly because it's a manga thing) was Euphie imagining Annis with a harem.
>>4297756Meant the web novelhttps://privatter.net/p/6370131Password 1484679
>>4297741>>4297743>>4297768Splendid
Sorry if this is a dumb question, i'm glossing over whether to read Urasekai Picnic (Manga)though I'm usually fine with series centering on other genres rather than yuri, i can tell just from CH-1 that UraPi is going to be a mixture of a lot of genres. In that case question arises if it's worth reading just for the yuri (i'm sure it does stuff other than yuri a lot better). If it's too much of a slow burn, i might put it off only for now.
>>4297863The yuri is great, but it is slow burn. The manga adaptation is 13 volumes in and has just started to get to the part where it becomes fully explicit, which is the fourth out of nine novels currently out.
>>4297863Do it. The mystery spooky parts still develop the Sorawo+Toriko relationship. It's not like it's a monster of the week thing where the relationship is just a background element.
>>4297863I'd say it's definitely worth it for the yuri alone.
>>4297590LMAO. Never trust westeren irony shit.
>>4297863IMHO yes, it's a slow burn but feels very rewarding when it starts getting more explicit. All the horrific shit they went through together adds a lot to it.
>>4297863>mixture of a lot of genres1 part /an/ /ck/ /diy/ /his/ /g/ /n/ /vt/ /sci/4 parts /k/5 parts /out/ /u/ /x/The correct thing to do is read the novels right now. Based on your question though I would reluctantly say wait ~5 years and then read the manga.
https://x.com/yagakimi/status/1839254850246525007
>>4297905its just going to be an art exhibit or something isnt it?
>>4297907I don't know why you'd expect anything huge.
>>4297905S2 of the animeManga adaptation of the Sayaka novelsSpinoff novels about the teacher and her gf written by IrumaStage play goes internationalHollywood movie adaptation where Touko is black
>>4297908because i want to
>>4297908if enough people want it very much we can will it into existence
>>4297915SAYAKA OVA I CAN FEEL IT
>>4297863Read the books instead.
>>4297915We already used up all of our meme magic getting Bocchi her anime a few years ago.
>>4297907>>4297909>>4297915If it was an anime it would've been leaked by Sugoi.
>>4297918actually, read both.
>>4297863watch the anime, its better
>>4297924I see some nee-sans just want to watch the world burn.
>>4297905Please God Sayaka adaptation or novel continuation please oh please pretty please!>>4297915Based anon of faith. >>4297919I didn't since I don't care much for that one, I've got lots of it saved up.
>>4297924I liked the anime and will never understand the hate it gets.
>>4297927Production aside, the pacing was terrible and they even fucked with basic shit like the order of episodes creating continuity errors and even added filler. The ost and the seyuus did well though
>>4297905Remind me when Nio starts writing yuri again.
how much will the anime cover
>>4297934The usual is 3 LN volumes, it may however rush volume 4 and cut most Kaho stuff to give it a more proper ending.
>>4297927They adapted it like it was something like Kino's Journey or Majo Tabi where the order is more flexible and there's room for original content, failing to understand the VNs and how the order is important. They mistook a continous narrative for an episodic narrative
>>4297936>cut most Kaho stuff
>>4297926>I don't care much for that one
>>4297905Finally, what everyone has been waiting for, a pachinko.
The best part about the Urasekai Picnic anime was how all the male characters became extremely handsome. At least someone on the production staff was having fun.
>>4297950All...how many of them?
>>4297956There was fan favorite Greg
>>4297958She is just being retarded as usual and crying for attention since she is unable to get published, I am pretty sure none of those people are following her account as she constantly spergs like this, rather it's her own followers with this type of characteristics who are constantly raging at accounts who constantly talk about this shit. You know why you never see Japanese Only Speakers talking about this shit? It's because it's bordeline inexistent in japan. Just like Muromaki herself.
>>4297905I used to be very excited for a YagaKimi s2 but now I don't even know if I'm gonna watch it
>>4297905If that gets s2 adashima also gets s2
>>4297945Komugi Azuki...
Is three a third wheel/triangle shit in shuukura?
>>4298027Yes.
Miyagi is not safe.She must be protected.
>>4298032Protected from having consensual sex with her roommate in the dark?
>"Watashi wo Tabetai, Hitodenashi" Manga will reveal a 'BIG ANNOUNCEMENT' and also getting Cover of Dengeki Maoh magazine issue #12/2024 released on October 27.https://x.com/SugoiLITE/status/1839334055030260113
>>4297959>Renako bang a buttlerOh my golf, yes
>>4297590Why?
>>4298037>A Monster Wants to Eat MeWhat other stuff did Sugoi leak? I think there were like two more series next year
>>42980411st leak was Watanare2nd leak is Monster wants to Eat Me (this is the one that he planned to leak much earlier, but it was delayed and so was the leak)3rd leak is still unknown, all we know is that like Watanare and Monster, it's a first season rather any kind of sequel or reboot
>>4298041
>>4298043probably something from YH
>>4298054Time for KyouKano
>>4298049>Dragon MaidOnly Kanna's spinoff is worth talking about, and even then it's a stretch. Not sure why Sugoi includes it
>>4298062Sugoi didn't include it. He never said it was a yuri leak or included it in any kind of list. This is anon making his own list from all the leaked stuff that anon considers yuri, including stuff Sugoi doesn't call yuri
>>4298062>main characters are a yuri couple
>>42980492025 is looking dry
>>4298062>>4298065>>4298066I made this list, it's just upcoming stuff, I wouldn't call Dragon Maid a yuri series, but it does however has yuri content.
>>4298049Looks like another season to clear out the backlog.
>>4298068I mean, not all of them are 2025. Depending on when MahoAko S2 got greenlit and started production, we might likely be looking at a 2026 release
>>4298070>seasonThis isn't all in the same season. Just the future stuff we know. There might be announcements Sugoi couldn't leak. Also, a lot of these will be in different seasons. And Dragon Maid is a movie, so we won't be seeing it until 2026 when it has it's disc release. This list also forgets the Madoka movie (which is also coming late to anyone outside Japan)
>>4298049Middle one?
>>4298071Lovely
>>4298068>>4298070Why do you fags hate yuri?
>>4298073Ninja to Koroshiya no Futarigurashi
>>4298076Disingenuous post
>>4298075Loco!
>>4298049Just by title alone the middle one sounds interesting, like a modern Kill Me Baby. Then again that other yuri assassin school anime was meh
Any chance for a second season of Nokotan?
>>4298096I've been reading it, it's very fun and the relationship between the leads is precious even though it's not fully explicit yet.
>>4298098I hear from source readers that the anime burned through a lot of the manga, apparently. That and god knows WIT have a backlog of stuff to get through: One Piece rebootAscendance of Bookworm S4Yaiba (adaptation of an old battle shonen manga from the creator of Detective Conan)One Piece and Yaiba look like demanding projects as both should be quite lengthy in episodesSo little chance
>>4298101god i wish bookworm was yuri
>>4298101Then it looks like for more deer on girl action I'll have to play Reverse 1999. A 20th Century Time-Travel Strategic RPG with a diverse cast of homosexual characters including arcanists, humans, french girls, and even animals. If you are hungry for more yuri bestiality play it now for free. Schneider back soon
>>4298102Just read oneesho if you want to see a 7yr with an adult
>>4298103>ChineseAh so it's safe
>>4297863Are you familiar with Roadside Picnic and the Stalker culture it created? Urasekai Picnic is basically that but with japanese folklore and lesbians. The romance is slow and takes time to develop but it's well written. The series as a whole is well written (and weird at times). It is horror and mystery done right.
>>4298143>but it's well writtenI wouldn't consider them becoming fuck buddies instead of entering into a real romantic relationship to be well-written. Yes, I am still bitter about how that volume ended.>Wanna have a legit relationship as girlfriends after all the horrible shit we went through together?>No thanks, let's just have sex but not be romantic with each other at all because I'm an unlikable cowardly bitch.
>>4298146Fair points, I'm not pleased with some of the developments either but It's honestly realistic. I'd say just give it some more time.
>>4298146>>4298148IMO it felt more like the author was too worried in justifying why they didn't got together until then instead of making a better argument as to why Sorawo would want to, in the endnthe answer was just autism.
>>4298146That's not what happened at all.
>>4298146More autistic than Sorawo.
>>4298163We are on 4chan what do you expect
>>4297926Your paltry sum isn't nearly enough, it took all of /u/'s energy to get her an anime, you think you've the strength alone?
>>4298146>read 8 volumes where the protagonist is a huge autist>wtf why is she acting so weird
>>4298146Last volume(jponly) is even worse and boring.
>>4298146Are they still dealing with so much shit that they can't just go steady?
>>4298192No, anon is completely misrepresenting the situation. They are a couple, Sorawo just insists they invent a pet name for themselves because she has a hard time fitting into the expectations of regular society. The first thing she does after that is initiating a kiss for the first time, so much for not being romantic.
>>4298049>no deetsyagakimi
>>4298196The blank spot is there at all because Sugoi hinted at another announcement, but said it's not a sequel.
>>4298146Out of pure curiosity, are you a Miyagi hater?
>>4298195Which makes sense given the value she'd previously attached to the "Partners in Crime" label.
I believe.
>>4297424chemicals in the water
>>4297424It would be pretty lame if they weren't.
>>4298102Bookworm Adventure yuri.
>>4297424Warui ga watashi wa yuri janai reminds me a lot of stopani for some reason
>>4298207Too hot for TV
>>4297424They're most likely to be fucked by Shizuma and/or Yaya, it would be a waste to not be gay there.
>>4298207Asumi-chan without the explicit sex is like watching Nascar without the crashes
>>4298223Only if you're in Miator or Spica. Le Rim girls are all property of the Shadow Empress as part of her harem.
>>4298102like if the bluehaired groomer was a woman? or other pairing?
>https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/d2c34fc9582742c2534433d56914f67a42b91abb>inee is AmericanFuck, I'm canceling my preorder.
>>4298247Didn't the amount of guns already tell you that?
>>4298247explains the guns
>>4298247Well that's great news, it's having a big enough affect that she's getting interviewed now. Publisher would be stupid to cancel it now.
>>4298247Guns and holy beings deciding life for people... Is she a republican?
>Wakame Konbu writes a hetshit oneeshota manga>only the oneeloli side couple gets any romantic development and sexual tensionWhy write hetshit at all when you can't stop being gay?
>>4298247>However, the illustrations I posted at that time and a silent manga of about four pages caught the eye of a Japanese editor, who asked me if I wanted to try drawing manga.Place your bets, which silent manga was it?
>>4298263Banana-san kowai...
New bonus artwork for ZenKowa volume 3 came out. It's a reverse of usual, with Kurumi being the cheerful one this time.
>>4298247What, the struggling comic artist equivalent to e-begging didn't clue you in?
>>4298257It's like reverse Kobayashi
Newest season of Solar Opposites has a dorky lesbian couple.
>>4298276Living in the US is expensive, unless you want her to move to the ghetto.
>>4297905
>>4298247Can someone archive this or quote it in a post? I can't view Yahoo JP.
Is world War yuri starting?
>>4298247Which means there is a chance that she not only knows 4chan, but also what /u/ is. Hell, she might be playing like one of her cupids and posting among us right now.
>>4298356You just reminded me World War Hulk was a thing.
>>4298247>it was easier to get scouted by a Japanese editor and serialized in Japan than getting into the US comic industryAmazing.
If it's that easy, why aren't /u/ learning jap and drawing yuri?
>>4298367She says the first manga she bought with her own money was Yotsuba&!, she's 4chan incarnate.
>>4298402It is a really good manga to start reading in Japanese. Also surprisingly KyouKano.
>>4298278Wakame is an IRL lesbian who admitted to sniffing the female VAs of Jahy-sama. She can't write het romance to save her life. CoolKyoushinsha is a futafag who doesn't really care about yuri, of course he loves pairing women with little boys. Shotacon and futanari are practically the same fetish in Japan.
>>4298402holy fuck she learned Japanese through the DJT route, she's deep in here
>>4298324VERY cool...
>>4298247>I supported an American Gross... in hindsight the writing was on the walls
>>4298419She also learned to draw manga from youtube tutorials, it all sounds like a "yeah, that totally happened" shitpost. I find it poetic that she ends up being rescued by the western fanbase despite not yet knowing she was western herself, but it's also dumb that the publisher didn't try to make use of this unique situation to simulpub Love Bullet in English in the first place. They wouldn't even have to pay for a translator.
>>4298422>dumb that the publisher didn't tryhttps://tsumanne.net/si/data/2024/09/26/9581775/based on how japanese are talking about flappers i don't think they are very good lol
>>4298424Why would a publisher do something as forward-thinking as scouting a western author and giving them the chance to have a manga serialization, only to avoid promoting or leveraging this unusual arrangement at all? This manga has been noticed due to being lucky enough to have an English fan translation when the author herself speaks English as her first language and most likely comes up with the script in English first before translating it into Japanese. It's comical and leads me to wondering whether there may have been previous cases of western mangakas that got axed immediately without anyone ever finding out they were western.
>>4298424Tldr
>>4298247The story is cute and the art is great. As long as she keeps it yuri I don't much care.
>>4298433It would be weird if every couple the cupid brings together happens to be lesbian. But if she does a het couple, I know a lot of people will throw a hissyfit
>>4298435OK, yeah, I guess it's fine since I'm not autistic. I also wouldn't mind some BL couples too, but I do want it to remain with the essence of yuri. Like obviously the MC needs a girl once she becomes human again.
>>4298437We'll get despairkino between her and Kanna.
https://x.com/akiyamabc/status/1403291921351516161found one yandere yuri gem from back in 2021
Cute
>>4298445Cute humanoid abominations
>>4298444>yuriWhere's the lesbian sex?
>>4298408Next month it will come back for sure, right?
>>4298425They follow standard procrdure, you don't promote what does not reach the sales metrics for promotions.
>>4298468>expecting things to sell BEFORE promoting themThat's a retarded procedure.
>>4298468It wouldn't take money or effort to mention that the author is American and bring some attention to the series. In fact they should've simply done this interview months ago rather than now when it's potentially too late.
>>4298221>yuri prostitution is too much>but a male MC going around raping and brainwashing women on-screen is OK>het fantasy land prostitution is also OK>het bestiality with a dude turned into a dog is also OK>a dude buying an slave and raping her (slaves can't consent, so all sex with them is rape by definition of slavery) on-screen is also OKFuck this straight earth
>>4298473Maybe rape in general is what's okay.
>>4298229part 4 hannelore was adorable, pairing her with myne would be lovely, and eglantine could've been interesting too, but she wouldn't work considering she graduated the year myne entered the royal academy
>>4298470Comic Flapper, much like Yuri Hime, is a small magazine, they don't have money for promoting works which they cannot guarantee will be worth the investment, they are not shonen jump.>>4298472>It wouldn't take money or effort to mention that the author is American and bring some attention to the seriesIf you want to kill the series on the spot, not a single japanese is looking at this news like something positive.
>>4298473The issue is not that it is too hot for TV, the issue is that the concept is too niche for something that already is restrictive by itself.
>>4298473This.
>>4298480yeah if MahoAko can air on TV then Asumi shouldn't have any problem. But the thing is Asumi is kinda boring for an erotica
>>4298398It's surprisingly easy to get into the US comic industry, actually. At least nowadays. The reasons why are unrelated to /u/, but suffice it to say you don't even need talent to get in (or if you had talent you need to lose it)If she tried and failed to get into the modern day US comics industry, Inee must be an attractive woman with a healthy lifestyle and the "wrong" politics.
>>4298486How is it boring, what do you like?
>>4298487>If she tried and failed to get into the modern day US comics industry, Inee must be an attractive woman with a healthy lifestyle and the "wrong" politics.What the fuck are you talking about.Where are all the successful US yuri comics?
>>4298487It's hard to pitch your own thing though, isn't it? You can get hired to work on existing capeshit, but I suppose that's not what she wanted to do at all.
>>4298488it's a bit too vanilla for me
>>4298487>>4298489>>4298490Yeah, getting into MARVEL and DC is not hard, they pay close to nothing, but actually getting your own work published and you owning the rights to it is a very different thing, she could have tried crowdfunding though, it's basically what she did anyways.
porn of magical girls is the same as porn of pony toys or pokémon
>>4298491Anything not vanilla is not getting an anime, they are not going to show explicit sex anyway, it all goes down to the studio skill and seyuu performance to be honest.
>>4298494Clearly not since you have 1000 times more pony and pokemon porn.
>>4298032Any chances of new voiced promovid?
>>4298495No worries. They will get Itou Miku to be Asumi.
>>4298489>What the fuck are you talking about.Those qualities I mentioned will either get you booted from the comics book industry or relegated to bottom tier nameless tasks if you're already in, and will never get you in if you're not.From what I hear of Inee, she seems like a hard working honest person that's grateful for the support she gets from her fans. If this were the 80s or even the 90s, the comic book industry would welcome her with open arms. It's not the 80s.>Where are all the successful US yuri comics?They're not successful, not yuri, or both.
>>4298495>Anything not vanilla is not getting an animeAre you saying MahoAko is vanilla?
>>4298503Yes
>>4298503Asumi would be like 10 minutes of non stop sex.
>>4298503It's also very cartoon teen chatacters. Not normal adults.
>>4298506good
>>4298506The sessions are 1h30, anon. One hour ova for every chapter, with a double one for Nanao/Asumi's first time.
Now that the dust has settled, is dungeon people Yuri and worth watching?
>>4298507doesn't that nake it less vanilla?>>42985061m of bondage > 10m of vanilla sex
>>4298435Maybe they do some background het couples
>>4298533Gross
>>4298452It wasn't at the end of chapter preview this time, so I doubt it. They'd want to make a big deal when it comes back. Maybe it'll be back by Christmas or the New Year.
>>4298518>YuriKinda, it fulfills the minimum requirements. Also>Y>worth watchingNah, too boring.
>>4298414>Shotacon and futanari are practically the same fetish in Japan.What are you even on about?
>>4298414Cool is on his third yuri series, but yes he is a futafag and shotafag.
>TakaAra is on hiatus because Nauchi got "shadowbanned" againTwitter needs to die.
>>4298518It's yuri-friendly, and definitely worth watching. The main duo have great chemistry, and the setting is very entertaining.
What's your dream yuri crossover.
>>4298761Have the Love Bullet cupids try to pair up the girls in yuri stories while providing their own commentary on the relationship. A fun one to see would be Amy and Bibi.
>>4298761bandori and d4dj
>>4298761Your mom and me
>>4298761All Adachis x all Shimamuras.
>>4298761Wataten and yuru yuri and strawberry marshmallow
>>4298784>strawberry marshmallowGood choice
>>4298761Gotoh Yoko from Watayuri showing up in Watanare
>>4298761Mahoako/Madoka
>>4298761Signalis and Non Non Biyori.
>>4298761KitaKawa x MGRP
>>4298761Pripri/Akuma no riddle.
>>4298761Kitakawa x Onee-sama and Giant
>>4298777But they’re sisters already…
>>4298858>doesn't knowShould we tell them?
The same company that dubbed Strawberry Panic in spanish now announced that it will dub Koihime Musou.
>>4298865
>>4298849I was puzzled why Misaka herself seemed to be bursting in on them until I remembered she has hundreds of clones. Honestly surprised there was never a plot about Kuroko trying to fuck one of the clones
>>4298865What the hell are they gonna do with every character having like a dozen chink names?
>>4298872We will see when they release it but they have some help because there's a explanation in the show itself.
>>4298849It really sticks that Japan still censors everything because I'd love to see many detailed panels featuring deft finger work around the clitoris.
>>4298761pop team epic x kakegurui
>>4298761Shikanoko x Ika Musume>>4298871Despite the hundreds of clones running around, somehow Mikoto manages to hide them (or they hide themselves) from Kuroko.
I will pretend to live in a reality where magical girl tsubame's ending was Yuri
>>4298872They'll make jokes like:>What's the nurse's name?>Matta Xiano
>>4298945This series was an incoherent mess from beginning to end, I can't wrap my head around what the hell the author was trying to tell. A yuri end would have made it slightly memorable but not even that.
dynasty always published non yuri content, including yaoi, yaoi and trap shit. The website is dying, if you keep an eye in the most viewed manga you know they used to do 3 or 4 times those numbers a few years ago and the only ones left visiting the website are the mentally ill who will get a Yukiko oneshot banned because of totally unrelated reasons to their abominable life choices.
>>4298761MurcielagoxSakura Trick
>>4298761Not really a drem crossover but I want Sakuna from Hikikomari and Kokoro from Zenkowa to meet each other.
>>4298761Middle school Amaori Renako and Hitori "Bocchi 'the Rock'" Gotou.
>>4298963you are a retard. that oneshot was taken down on the translator's request. if you want blame the tl team instead.
>>4298982>on the translator's requestThey requested that because the commenters and mods were bitching about it.
>>4298982Uh huh, it totally wasn't the admins contacting him and reaching a middle ground to make him look good to his paypigs.
>>4299019>>4299009no, the TL team disowned the work everywhere not just on d-s. it's really not the d-s conspiracy you are making it out to be.
>>4299021They only uploaded it to Dynasty, dumbass.
>>4299022they upload their stuff to md too, the fact that it's not there suggests this is not a d-s plot. stop hallucinating up d-s conspiracy theories just because you got banned.
Are you ready for the new... *clears throat* anti-antinatalism yuri?
>>4299036Lame.
>>4299036Science babies sisters, our time has arrived.
>>4299036>anti-antinatalism yuri?how does this even work?
>>4299036Actually based
>>4299046Science or magic babies
>>4298871>Misaka has hundred of clonesWow, glad I dropped this before it descended into retardation
>>4299036>Fantasy anti-antinatalism yuriMagical babies?
>>4299036>girl meets girl fantasySo it's a WataOshi spinoff?
>>4299082X meets x is just a generic way to describe a type of romance sis
>>4299021The team TL only did it because of the pressure of the paypigs on dynasty, it was banned, they just made it look better for everyone, even though there was nothing wrong with the content, first because it has nothing to do with how they made their headcanon over that character and second and more importantly the irony is that if this was the intention it would be a realistic and accurate portrayal.
>>4299036Since his works don't sell in japan and his last novel flopped super hard, I suppose going directly to the only audience he has is actually a smart decision, though somewhat admitting defeat as a japanese author.Now there is 2 things I wonder. First what exactly is anti antinatalism? Did he made a typo because it seems to me everyone is inherently anti-antinatalism, either way both premise of anti natalism or anti anti natalism sounds utterly retarded and I can see an editor hearing this and just saying he has no idea what Inori is smoking. The second thing I wonder is why instead of promoting it as just girl meets girl he thought adding "anti antinatalism" is going to be how he is going to get attention?
>>4299061>>4299076Why just don't call it that though.>I want to make a novel about a yuri couple raising children of their ownCool>I want to write about anti-antinatalismWTF
>>4299090Everyone saw how crying on Twitter worked for Love Bullet. Expect even more to start doing it.
>>4299097Seething.
>>4299097The thing is, Love Bullet was, at the very least, competently written. Meanwhile, none of the works in Inori portfolio can be at best evn considered above average.
>>4299100>comparing something with one volume to completed works
>>4299097I don't think selling out a limited first print is anything impressive, I find the Galette crowdfunding to be an actual story of success
>>4299101While I agree it's too soon to judge love bullet, personally I don't really care much about it, it's hard to believe he will fuck up as much Inori did.
>>4299103Easy. Just make one of the cupids het. Or have them make het couples.
>>4299092Because the theme will be criticising the doctrines of antinatalism, duh.
>>4299103>Koharu wakes up in ICU, turns out it was all a dream
>>4299036What if it's het?
>>4299109I just can't work my head around what does this mean? Does humans just decide to not have children anymore? Or are they being forced by another species?
>>4299106I don't particulary see any problem with both of those, it's what cupids do, the story is about how the cupids do it, not about those couples, I couldn't care less if some side character is het>>4299112Girl meets girl is just code for yuri
>>4299114https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinatalism
>>4299089>it would be a realistic and accurate portrayalMeds.
>>4299116Yeah, same. Though, if that het couple takes up too much time or is too prominent, I would take problem with it. I mean, that constable yuri manga had both het and yaoi one off couple and it was fine.
>>4299119>I mean, that constable yuri manga had both het and yaoi one off couple and it was fine.It could have done without shota molesting by side characters though, but sure it was also a ecchi lite series
>>4299117It's anti antinatalism though
Whats so complicated. Live in antinatalist society and your protags fight against it.
Or the protags are antinatalist but through out the story warmed up to the idea of magic babies gradually...
What's with people pouting and sulking about Love Bullet ITT?
>>4299125Turns out Inori was Abe biggest fan all along
>>4299130Someone took issue with the author not just bowing her head and letting the series get axed, as if the whole point of advertisement isn't asking people to buy your product.
>>4299036Shinzo Abe yuri?!?!
>>4299130Anons are cropo bootlickers, they dont care about artists and supporting series.
>>4299036>Yuri pregnancy and Yuri familiesYES!!!!
What's with people pouting and sulking about Inori ITT?
>>4299130It’s just unclear to anons which of the two (absolutely right btw) positions they should take.>The audience is the only bearer of high standards of 2024 and is always right. If your work doesn't sell well, it means you are writing what the audience doesn't want to see. Any cancelation is deserved.or>Malicious publishers kill series that don't deserve it. The author has the right to try to increase sales of their work not only by following the demands of the audience, but also by other methods not directly related to the creation, such as crying on twitter.
>>4299150Publishers just kill series based on sales metrics, the author saying it's at risk of cancellation may have the oppoeite effect and just demotivate people from buying it.
>>4299160Good thing we can see that's not what is happening.
>>4299160Again, stop pretending to be an industry expert. If she had said nothing do you think people who weren't its fans from the start would've bought it? Most people didn't even know it existed. Not just overseas fans, even the Japanese >>4298424 didn't and still don't know anything about it.>b-but foreign sales means nothing, it will still be axedAs far as a mangaka is concerned, being axed with thousands more copies sold is still a lot better than being axed with less sales. You're a dumbass.
>>4299165You are just answering with nonsense, most manga in small magazines are struggling with the same issues, some get axed, some go on for a while and others manage to get popular, they get more recognition and more marketing budget as time goes on. There is nothing wrong authors being proactive and promoting their own works, the gyaru inka author made her own PV, Minori Chigusa does illustrations every day, Hoshikuzu author did streams, why didn't love bullet author do the same? Her only reaction was to tell her potential costumers the manga is doing bad and instead of getting their attention she got westeners spending money out of pity.A thou-usand copies? Oh boy the is going to use all that royalty money and buy a large (but no extra large) pizza.
>promoting your series is good, unless you do it this way>you see, the publisher actually hates all these additional sales
https://www.youtube.com/live/HnYymYvOYBwhttps://x.com/rituakaPAKOPAKO/status/1839599140269072799
>>4299181You may notice companies usually don't promote their products by saying they are selling like shit.
>>4299171You know what's actually nonsense? Your whole retarded opinion. She didn't tell any westerner to buy her manga, that campaign was initiated by the scanlators. And the scanlators knew about the sales because she promoted it on twitter, saying she will take a break for a month to do more promotion for it. You think she should tell those gaijins to stop buying it because one retarded anon on 4chan thinks it's wrong?>Oh boy the is going to use all that royalty money and buy a large (but no extra large) pizzaAs opposed to not getting anything at all, yeah that's great. You're still fucking retarded.
>>4299185You may notice the retards at Comic Flapper don't usually promote their yuri series. Or you may not, since you're a corporate bootlicker.
>>4299182was the ero in this good? i heard that it has basically no plot, the game is just a package of minimum setup plus ero scenes.
Someone is just seething because his schizo theory that a manga not getting a translation would make it sell more is being destroyed by the Love Bullet situation, which is currently selling more because it has a translation.
>>4299187Is this situation leading to other yuri from Flapper selling well?
>>4299187>>4299189I'm actually grateful that Flapper didn't try to promote the fact that the author is western until now because detractors would've just used that as an excuse to justify the western support to the series rather than western fans rallying behind it purely because it's good.
>>4299196Now youre just making up scenarios that never happen irl to be mad at.
>>4299197No, there have already been posts disparaging the value of western support.
>>4299197Everyone knows you would've used it to attack the manga if they revealed that fact earlier.
I wish there were a yuri manga like Love Bullet, but instead they are all alcoholic Russians.
I wish there were a yuri manga like Love Bullet, but it was an actual Manga made by a real Japanese mangaka.
>>4299234You're allowed to like it now that a real Japanese mangaka has shilled it: https://x.com/mrmk_z/status/1839580294363455490
>>4299237isn't she german?
>>4299238Yuri has been invaded...
>>4299234Even if she's American, at least she doesn't look like she's black, or white.
Pictures of identical, except for the presence or absence of one or two ironically forbidden series, shelves in bookstores are not interesting. It's more interesting to see what yurifans buy and read.
>>4299254But where's Kitakawa?
>>4299186The issue is not westerner buying it, the issue is the author saying her series is failing instead of actually promoting it, good for her she got pizza money because people who are not her target audience decided to take pity on her.>>4299187Wrong, they don't have money to spend on series that sre not selling well, it's what small magazines do.
>>4299262>people who are not her target audienceYuri fans are not the target audience of yuri manga now?
>>4299262>issue is the author saying her series is failingNo it's not an issue except for you. And you're a schizo so your opinion doesn't matter.
>>4298871>>Honestly surprised there was never a plot about Kuroko trying to fuck one of the clonesThat would imply that the author was competent.>>4299071>>Wow, glad I dropped this before it descended into retardationYou have no idea and I also gave up on this and when I find out something, it's really stupid.what's annoying is that they made 2 special clones of Misaka into Accelerator's love interest and anyone who tells you that there's yuri between one of them and another character who's basically a hetslut bitch, is lying to you.
>>4299266If she doesn't get a japanese audience her series is going to die, there is no other way around this. Though if westerners are really willing to buy it, maybe they should talk with some westerner publisher and try to make some publishing deal with Flapper beyond the usual licesing agreement.
>>4299114It's not that hard with Japan crying about their birth rates but also making it hard for lesbian couples to have their own IVF babies, just add some fictional elements to that problem and you have your anti-antinatalism yuri.>>4299281NTA but regular manga consumers in Japan tend to at least read one chapter of whatever it's popular in the west, now we don't know if the japanese yuri consumer has the same behaviour so maybe you're right.
>>4299305>IVFFuck off with your hetshit. iPS cells exist and work in real life.
>>4299305I wouldn't call love bullet popular because a few westerners bought japanese volumes.
>>4299305Sure, but I don't think this is anti antinatalism, just pro natalism.>>4299317I assume Inori is unable to have children and this is why this is a personal work for him
>>4299106Or have him introduce male cupids
>>4299335There was a male cupid last chapter
>>4299317Do you trust Inori to make such a concept work?>>4299334In some ways it can be a chance to highlight how stupid it's to cry for low birth rates but at the same time forbid or make it very hard for lesbians to have their own children, pretty much labelling lesbophobes as antinatalists.
>>4299333Like it or dislike it twitter it's the biggest social media platform in Japan, if something it's popular in twitter regarding Japan then a lot of japanese people would know about it.
>>4299345>make shit up>get mad about itWOuld you stop.
>>4299345>>4299106Yuri doesn't mean every girl in the cast is gay, only that the main two girls are.
>>4299345Cupid's can't fall in love have you even read it?
>>4299345As long it isn't the protagonist I am not sure why should I care.
>>4299344I think the fact this is another fantasy series already shows we will be getting some half assed parallel
>>4299345Her editor literally told her to add a yuri tag to her manga, you schizoid.
You know a manga is good when there is a schizo dedicated to making shit up to get angry about it.
>>4298777How the hell they never collaborated?
>>4299363I bet the editor regrets that decision now that its becoming popular. The 百合 tag is poison to most of the non-yuri audience.
>>4299368The non-yuri audience would start asking some questions when they notice all the pairings the series focuses on are yuri.
>>4299368Why the fuck should you or anyone on this board care about them again? And besides, the whole of volume 1 is pure yuri, anyone who hates yuri would have fucked off before they even intended to buy the volume.
>>4299368If not for the tag it would've never become popular in the first place
>>4299370It's not lesbians that turn them off per say, it's their assumptions about what being labled yuri involves.>>4299374It won't get that popular without them. And it's not true that the volume is pure yuri. The first chapter features the human MC pairing up a minor guy and girl to start.
>>4299377>The first chapter features the human MC pairing up a minor guy and girl to start.So what?
>>4299376It's kind of an interesting dilemma. To get your yuri series popular as it starts out have to appeal to the yuri audience. But to get it truly popular (or at least more so than other yuri titles), you have to appeal to a non-yuri audience.>>4299379I'm just saying it's not pure yuri. I don't have an issue with this either. I'm not a retard who delusionally thinks that the series is going to become heterosexual or anything. And if anything, that couple will post it's popularity with non-yuri fans.
>>4299380You can't appeal to everyone.
>>4299387That's incorrect. What you can't do is make people feel like you're appealing to other fanbases, especially ones that they don't like. Whether rightly or wrongly, why do you think so many people here get so jittery at the idea of the girls being around a male cupid or pairing up a boy/girl? It's because in their minds, they see it as the author appealing to a fanbase outside of the yuri one. Whether she is or planning to do that is up to their paranoid minds though.
>>4299379>het couple>yuri series
>>4299394No, I am not saying the author shouldn't try to do X or Y, I am saying there are limits to what he can do, yuri cupids fighting each other with guns to make couples together is already by itself a very niche premise.
>>4299396>cupids fighting each other with guns to make couples together is already by itself a very niche premiseLots of popular anime can be broken down like this and yet are still popular. People like novelty, but what matters more is the execution. And if they see it as relying on specific tropes, they'll think it's less unique.
>>4299394No you can't. We talked about it before but that's just marketing 101. If you're a company you want a big enough profitable and loyal target market but if you're a mangaka then you're objectives more lilely will be:>Don't get axed>Pay the bills with the income that you get from your mangaAnd then we can talk about more money, a anime adaptation or some other thing. See how I didn't need to talk about non-yuri consumers at all?
>>4299401>big enough profitable and loyal target market>big enoughWell, that's the problem. The yuri audience isn't big enough to reach that level.
>>4299404What level? Profitability? If yuri wasn't profitable we wouldn't get anything, even less a gachi yuri anime every year.
Based anime writers making the time to add a "villain shows the heroine an illusion of her ideal life" during the final battle.
>>4299347>>4299348>>4299351>>4299356>>4299363
>>4299407Most anime itself don't make a profit. They just boost the source material. So the fact that some seasons go without any yuri anime whereas the most medicore romcoms and isekai sales wise get a 2nd season means investors aren't willing to risk it in most cases.
>>4299418They make a profit for the committee.>most medicore romcoms and isekai sales wise get a 2nd seasonWe can't judge what's hot in the anime market right now because those decisions were made 5 years ago and we can see it when those hetshit anime flop one after the other. Why they do it then? Because they have statistics about how well a romcom or isekai can do it in the market, yuri anime don't have that data and also I don't think some flops (like Hoshikuzu or Hikikomari) are analized enough to know why they flopped in the first place (Hoshikuzu was a exclusive show of some japanese company and Hikikomari lacked the budget/time to get a decent animation on its latest episodes) but there's also the chance that both of them had a positove cashflow for the committee.
>>4299400Make a list of popular yuri anime, I will wait.
>>4299425They clearly made more money for the committee than even the best selling yuri anime like YagaKimi and Citrus (which outsold a lot of them in direct BD sales).>>4299429Popular by what metric?
Speaking of Hoshizuku Telepath, did Okuma survive the multiple heart attacks she got from the live action?>captcha: 8GGAYYes, that's the source of the heart attacks.
>>4299438Yeah, she's been streaming the Ace Attorney Investigations Collection and went full-on simp for AKB48.
>>4299404>>4299418>>4299425Nowadays anime pays the bills with licensing alone, yuri does not get season 2 because the objetive is to promote the source material and the audience you are promoting it for isn't big enough to warranty more investment, you most likely already got all consumers you would, maybe if yuri continues to grow this will naturally change. Most romcoms and isekai don't do better than yuri saleswise or merchandisewise, only the very popular ones do, but it's still worth to invest in more anime seasons for those because their audience reach is bigger.Yuri isn't trying to reach mainstream audiences, you can't do this without fundamentally changing things and beyond that you are suddenly in a bigger but far more competitive oversatured market, it's just not good business, yuri anime isn't flopping either, they are most likely even doing better than expected for low budget and low marketing investments.
>>4299436By actual popularity, Frieren is popular, Yagakimi is not.
>>4299443Most romcoms/isekai aren't trying to reach mainstream audiences either. In fact, I don't think most anime is trying to reach a mainstream audience. Rather, individual series for specific fanbases will become popular among the mainsteam audience.>>4299444Popularity is only relative. Frieren is more popular than YagaKimi but less so than Dragon Ball.
>>4299436I doubt it. Shit like Nagatoro or most isekai have a lot of competition with each other so the margins are slim. Most yuri flops come from the fact that they weren't supposed to air/stream along each other, Hikikomari or Hoshikuzu were capable to sell more if they didn't have to compete with other two yuri anime in the same season.
>>4299444Didn't Mahoako outsell it?
>>4299447>have a lot of competition with each otherKadokawa often releases multiple isekai series alongside each other.
>>4299447Hoshikuzu had a exclusivity deal and didn't air in most places, it probably made more money than all the others combined, actual money not pocket money like BD sales.
>>4299449BD is a niche market by itself (to not say dead), the people supporting Frieren will buy manga and merch
>>4299450Yes, but they are competing with other companies too, their strategy is too pump as much isekai as possible because if a single one is popular thenit pays the invesment in 50 of them
>>4299444Frieren had the risk of being forgotten before its S2 airs, but they're already working on a S2 so we will see if it doesn't become another Oshinoko. MahoAko had better sales and it has no competition unless we have a surprise and a Asumi-chan gets a anime.>>4299450Kadokawa can affor it because they have a lot of isekai licenses and not all their isekai are the same haremshit everytime.
>>4299455>not all their isekai are the same haremshit everytime.[x] Doubt
>>4299456I will fix it, most of the time their not the same het haremshit. We had things like Shinmai Alchemist after all.
>>4299409those are the little moments that make it all worth it.
>>4299454>>4299455>if a single one is popular thenit pays the invesment in 50 of themThis is the plan for yuri as well. No one wants to spend all the time and effort to produce an anime that's only barely going to make a return on profit. They keep trying different kinds of yuri to see what sticks because they don't know the formula that works like with romcom and isekai.
>>4299462They don't know the formula for romcom and isekai either. They'd pick the series that fit that formula instead of throwing as many romcom and isekais as possible at the wall hoping that one will stick. They're obviously not doing this with yuri series, or we would be getting a lot more adaptations every season.
>>4299462Why say something we can easily see it's not true by demand alone? Yuri anime is made mostly to promote the source material and merch to new people, which has been working well, as much issues Otherside Picnic and Sasakoi had, they promoted the source content a lot.Stop with this bullshit too, they are not trying to find a formula to make yuri popular, they understand it has a limited reach, they may be underestimating it too much though. Romcom and Isekai have both the most mainstream premise the market can offer, it's all there is to it, it's just not every work can be popular, it's the same reason they are not all trying to copy kimitsu no yaiba which is so popular like 1/3 of japanese households watches it. They know the competition in shonen is too strong.
>>4299466Just because the formula is not set in stone 100% does not mean that there aren't certain trends that increase/decrease the likelihood of a series appealing to a mainstream fanbase. It doesn't take a genius to see that some series are going to appeal to a wider audience, even if it doesn't always materialize. >we would be getting a lot more adaptations every season.Most yuri flops under this schema, so they're not going to invest in it as heavily as other genres. >>4299468>yuri anime is made mostly to promote the source material and merch to new peopleHow do you know it's to new people instead of the fans that already exist? The fact that the anime sell less than the manga shows that it's mostly hardcore fans who are supporting the anime rather than a lot of new fans who are being drawn-in (we haven't seen the post anime bump in manga sales either).>they are not trying to find a formula to make yuri popularEvery company wants an easy formula that they can apply to make money. It's no different from yuri. And lots of shounen try to copy the success of KnY, just like lots of them tried to copy the success of Dragon Ball.
>>4295954>>4295958this, ticks in intimate places you can't reach
>>4299474A mainstream audience usually means lower margins because you need to compete with a lot of media, not only anime. Appealing to the waifufag crowd became a useless strategy when you had to compete with things like FGO and Vtubers for the same money, and that's why things like Frieren, the Farcille or the Mao Mao anime became popular because there's no competition on that field right now. If we talk about yuri anime the only real competition is another yuri anime so the risks are lesser, obviously unless a pandemic shakes the already fragile anime industry and destroys most of your plans.
>>4299474>How do you know it's to new people instead of the fans that already exist? The fact that the anime sell less than the manga shows that it's mostly hardcore fans who are supporting the anime rather than a lot of new fans who are being drawn-in (we haven't seen the post anime bump in manga sales either).I will say again, BD is a niche market, you have manga series pulling over 600k and selling less than a thousand BDs, Sasakoi with just the anime promotion went from 65k each volume to over 100k.The point of anime is to promote to new costumers which are most likely part of your intended audience you are not reaching, nips don't have infinite money, they have to choose which works to buy.Anon, you are not saying anything of value, shonen is by itself a popular formula, so is isekai, no one is going to find a magic formula which is always popular, talent, timing, competition, marketing, it's a lot of complex variables which have to work togethee for it to happen.
>>4299485Even with the advent of VTubers and Mobages, certain waifufag anime can still do well.>>4299491If you recognize that popular formulae like battle shounen and isekai already exist, why are you denying that companies want to understand what specifically will make these popular compared to other kinds of works? Obviously external factors exist, but so do internal ones related to the content itself.
>>4299504>certain waifufag anime can still do well.The lates one that had decent sales was pretty much a long ad for a gacha that aired years ago, remember that even Engage Kiss was destroyed by LycoReco.
>>4299504They already figured this out decades ago, it's not rocket science for fuck sakes, they already have their demographics and audiences figured, there is no magic formula, it's like I said a mix of factors and some works will do better than others, not all of them can do well at the same time.You are not going to find any magic formula for yuri either, eventually there is going to be another viral success like Yuru Yuri, because all those factors will align, but yuri is never going to stop being a niche genre and there is nothing wrong with that, it's still a profitable growing market.
>>4299535>it's like I said a mix of factors and some works will do better than others, not all of them can do well at the same time.I have said that as well. You seem to under the belief that success is mostly completely random and can't be gauged whatsoever. I agree that most yuri will always remain niche, even support it, but I do think there are ways to make yuri series more popular based on the actual content inside.
Sadly there was nothing in the last episode. It's so weird and sad that the gyaru didn't have a couple of minutes dedicated to her when even minor characters had them in the previous episode.
>>4299551You want to know what are those factors? Pick a well liked yuri series, give it a production budget, give it a marketing budget and you will have a far more popular anime with far more chances of being a success, but all investment is a bet and not a guarantee and all the production committee does is make the math, they know the target audience for yuri is small and the chance of hitting big small, so they would rather just the risk low by no investment much money on it.Unless you are changing genres, like CGDCT yuri or action yuri, you are very unlikely to find content which will make any difference outside of the inherent quality of popularity of the content itself, otherwise you risk sounding like the hollywood lunatics burning one franchise to the ground after the other with nonsense they believe appeals to a wider audience.
Nice?https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/blog1/figure/article/detail/331/
>>4299568I'm fine with what they did, I'm happy that the rabbit girl and the girl without eyes have made peace or improved their relationship, with the gyaru girls there is nothing new to contribute to what was already known between them, I would only be sad that there was nothing with the adult women (boss and secretary), I wasn't asking much for them 2.
>>4299576>pick a well liked yuri series>inherent quality of the content itselfAnd what makes a series well-liked or considered to be high quality to begin with is the question, isn’t it?And if you believe that I’m wrong in my assessments for what will/won’y be popular, why not let me offer a prediction for an upcoming yuri anime? Even if it has a good marketing budget and animation, the Bad Girl anime will most likely flop. If I’m wrong, then I’ll be more agreeable to your ideas.
>>4299583You already have metrics for this, it`s not for accident they adapt the most popular manga series for either anime or live action.I don`t think you understand what a flop is, regardless like most CGDCT it`s unlikely to become the next Yuru Camp, I won`t say Bocchi because that series had a really big marketing budget because of the music stuff.
>>4299583If we talk about animation we will also need to talk about a great and creative direction, CGDCT like that only become popular if they are capable to get strong emotions from the viewers.
Run, Cocoa, there's a turbo dyke next to you.
>>4299592Haruka is the one in danger
>>4299594Haruka isn't a loli and she doesn't have little sister energy. If it were Yuu, however, I'd be worried.
I never bothered reading the manga, so is there anything to look forward to in Frieren S2? Does the big tiddy elf get laid?
>>4299630
>>4299630Source of the pic?
>>4299456MagiRevo is Kadokawa
>pours soda and popcorn on a bitch>she comes backSendai-san is nuts.
>>4299646it's the carbs, bitches love carbs
>>4299630You'll get to see Methode be a little bit gay and a little bit crazy. S2 shipping will undoubtedly be dominated by /y/ though.
>>4299587No amount of directing wizardry is going make the actual content more engaging for most people.>>4299586>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-08-13/anime-insiders-share-how-much-producing-a-season-costs/.91536>cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen (and this was ten years ago)>most anime can't recoup this expense and the industry rests on the windfall of a few big hitsEven when you factor in merchandise, BD sales, and an increase in manga and magazine sales, there is no way that Kirara is breaking even with Bad Girl, which would my definition of a flop.
>>4299655>No amount of directing wizardry is going make the actual content more engaging for most people.If the director understand the themes and can communicte them to the audience it can do it, a decent marketing budget could help too if it has that a good direction.>Even when you factor in merchandise, BD sales, and an increase in manga and magazine sales, there is no way that Kirara is breaking evenKirara only puts enough money to finance part of the anime, the company that makes the music puts another amount of money, same with the one doing some merch, etc. The only ones that get little to nothing are the anime studios and now even they have a secure income in the form of streaming licensing fees.
>>4299635https://twitter.com/SydusArts/status/1834249459414565131>>4299650I know enough to guess which arc you're talking about, oh well. Thanks for the information. I already miss LawiKana so bad.
>>4299655Anon 10 years ago the streaming scene was very different, nowadays licesing alone pays the whole thing
>>4299664>Kirara only puts enough money to finance part of the animeAnd they're still not getting enough cash back. As the article pointed out, creators are gambling for the next big hit not looking for small successes.>>4299672Maybe for a more popular series, but I doubt that a lot of companies are going to shell out enough cash for the rights for Bad Girl.
>>4299683Unless it's a exclusivity deal, the licesing fees are the same and basically every service wants every anime avaliable
>>4299684>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2021-08-02/how-much-does-it-cost-to-license-anime-series/.175579>licensing a new entry in a super popular franchise will cost significantly more than licensing a series that doesn't have a lot of hypeEven in the west, more popular shows cost more money to license.
>>4299685We are not talking about international licesing.
>>4299686The process for licensing in Japan is going to be same.
>>4299683That's not how the committee system works. We don't have (or at least I didn't find) the percentage that the magazines put to make their anime adaptations what we know it's that anime studios are hired to make a show and that the committe usually pays them some money for their job and if that money isn't enough is the studio, not the committee, the one that loses money.
>>4299688There are exclusivity deals in place, Sasakoi for example had exclusivity with youtube last season and didn't air in niconico or other smaller streaming services, but usually it's not of the interest of bigger franchises to reduce their reach and potential merch consumers.
>>4299694Of course, but regardless of the deals made, the question still remains of how much money Kirara is making off of this. And my guess based on what others have said is that it's probably not enough to re-coop their loses. Kirara was in dire straights before Bocchi aired which would not have been the case if they were making a small profit on everything.
>>4299696Anon, Kirara before Bocchi had Yuru Camp which is an even more popular franchise, aside from other popular stuff they still have ongoing.No one but studios lose money with anime and usually when this happens is stuff like Chainsawman where the studio worked without a comitee and had to cover all costs.
>>4299697Yurucamp was back in 2018. And Kirara Fantasia ended its services just as the Bocchi anime begun and other 4koma magazines were shifting away from the format or ending.
>>4299696>dire straightsSource? Until someone shows me the Kirara's balance sheet I'll always assume that the return of investment of the magazine wasn't big enough compared to other magazines owned by its mother company.
>>4299699Yuru Camp is still ongoing and had a big movie viewership just a little ago
>>4299683>creators are gambling for the next big hitSo soon after Bocchi the Rock?
The yuri I want doesn't exist, so I'll have to make it myself. I'll have to learn Blender...
>>4299737It's also on Fuz instead of Kirara now. A magazine family with 4 different versions is going to need more than just Gochiusa and KMB to stay afloat.>>4299743Considering the studio/director won't adapt more Bocchi anytime soon, probably.
>>4299752Kill Me Baby is still running?
>>4299753It just had its 200th chapter.
>>4299752It's the same thing anon, Houbusha moved it to promote fuz, but they are not insane people who will expect Kirara forward who brought their biggest hit ever to produce another one or be closed, then come Bocchi from another magazine and eventually another one will come, which is definitely not going to be bad girls.Kirara is doing fine, even explicit yuri stuff like semi friends is getting 5 ot 6 reprints for the first volume even before anime, which will definitely happen.
>>4299699>other 4koma magazines were shifting away from the format or ending.I wish that happens soon, 4koma is as cancer as long strip
https://youtu.be/8jKWTtParREThis is yuri???I fucking hate Class S.
>>4299756>semi friendsWe were talking about before the Bocchi anime though. The fact that other magazines from Houbusha ended even around the time that Yuru Camp started shows that Kirara is carrying the company on its back. None of their other magazines have gotten an anime since 2016.
>>4299762Class S is the foundation of yuri, Tiktok-kun
>>4299767NTA but Class S is to yuri what alchemy is to chemistry.
>>4299771The basis without which it would not exist? Yeah.
>>4299772Gone and never to return too.
>>4299778Why does it live rent free is so many retards' minds then?
>>4299767>>4299772Not really, the first stories calling the readers yuri was in a BL magazine to describe female fans of lesbians or lesbian shorts in the magazine. The best you can say about class S is that it inspired Maria Sama which even though never calling itself yuri ended creating a trend for a more commercial use of the word to describe romantic feelings and not just lesbianism,
>>4299788Is anyone TLing this?
>>4299847It will probably get licensed eventually
>>4299579Crazy how this author took over yuri in like 2 years. These characters are insanely popular
>>4299783So tkmiz has now drawn both his pairs sleeping.
>>4299852Not really, she is a talent artist with IRL art exhibitions and more importantly unlike other less talent people she is a smart person who understands (or works with someone who does) social media and basic business practices to promote her own products.
>>4299855So exactly what I said then.
>>4299856Yes, I am just saying in retrospective it makes total sense.
>>4299788Which adashima are they?
>>4299852>post a lot of POV yuri art>get popularyeah no surprises
>>4299855Did they tell her if things go bad she should cry on Twitter? Seems to work.
>>4299866illegal age gap adashima
>>4299875You've been seething for more than a week now.
>>4299852Turns out all you need to do is role reversal and sex in public.
>>4299882Maybe one day she'll even learn to draw a third character.
Chigusa Minori is one of the best yuri mangaka right now based on how much she makes some people here seethe.
>>4299889>how much she makes some people here seethe.Where? In your head only schizo.
>>4299889Had to google them, but I dropped semi-friend early on cause I found both the story and the characters unappealing.
>>4299409Is this worth watching for the yuri subtext?
>>4299898Yes, but only if you're a big fan of rice.
>>4299900Bashame please.
>>4299896Her.
>>4299891You must've been here for only a week.
>>4299904them is always correct
>>4299907No.
>>4299910ESL
>>4299840Class S is the foundation of all shoujo and by extension yuri. You're just too retarded to understand what class s actually refers to.
>>4299889Who doesn't make people here seethe?
>>4299913Fuck off back to twitter.
>>4299916ManioKodamaInori
>>4299916Mira?
>>4299918But I don't need to make my failing manga popular?
>>4299916Manio, we love Manio here.
>>4299916Manio is universally loved on /u/ and /a/.
>>4299921>>4299883
>>4299922Some people just refuse to admit that even though they know it's true.
>look up Manio's most popular work>7.90Seems mid. Is this just 4chan being contrarian like always?
>>4299928>hurr durr Dungeon Meshi is the 4th best manga of all time!
>>4299918it's been used since middle ages, it has always been correct
>>4299940No. If you actually google'd her you'd already know she's a woman.
>>4299947in this case she and they are both correct, because they is always correct.
>>4299948No.
>>4299947I wanted to know which manga she did and semi-friend came up in the results, I wasn't interested in knowing her gender.
>>4299953>>4299948Bad faith retards, you fragile idiots get called "they" irl youd pop 10 blood vessels.
>>4299916>(*´-`)
>>4299955Not really because I don't care that much. THEY can call me whatever THEY want.Oh no, I said they. Don't get triggered too much.
>>4299955> youd pop 10 blood vessels.never happened to me so idk, im sure you would, though
>>4299955I legit have no idea what you're getting so riled up about.
>>4299963I'm undecided if he's an entitled anti-NB who despises the mere utterance of the pronoun they use, of if he's an entitled NB who despises the mere utterance of the pronoun he uses when referred to someone not entitled NB.
>>4299968>NB shitThere are only two genders. Fuck off to twitter.
>>4299970I don't care for the fads, I just find it silly that people are actually gating everyday words because of them.
Yuri artists are assumed to be female by default, it's retarded to claim otherwise.
>>4298871that's her mom.
>>4299968You know she’s a woman now, call her she.
>>4300014ok, but they is still correct.
>>4300014I already did: >>4299953
>>4300021The guy still lashed out at that post though, the plot thickens.
>>4300025I am not a guy.
>>4300025Ah, then maybe it wasn't about NBs after all, it could be this part:>I wasn't interested in knowing her genderIf he's an extreme simp of this woman for some reason, I could see him going full retard about someone claiming they don't care so much about her.It also adds up when you think that he started everything with a post like this: >>4299889
>>4300029I’m not a him and did not make that post.
>>4300028>>4300032Then could you kindly clarify this response you gave me: >>4299955As you can see I tried my hardest, but I still can't wrap my head around it.
>>4300034He was obviously projecting and threw a fit, anon.You're wasting your time trying to make sense of it.
All yuri artists learned how to draw kissing by making out with themselves in the mirror.
>sneakily turns out to be the best and most wholesome anime of the seasonWho would've thought, it seems like it was only yesterday that people were guessing whether it would even be worth checking out or not.
>>4299914No, you are just mixing class S with basic literally that predates it by centuries.
>>4300097And the answer is still no if you want yuri and not friendship
>>4300097I think what made it work is that there was no character bloat, the focus was constantly on the main duo and their evolving relationship.>>4300102If you want maintext all you had this season was VTuber, which I enjoyed for what it was mind you, but at the end of the day wholesome subtext can beat unfocused maintext as far as I'm concerned.The yuri levels are obviously very important, but so is the execution.
>>4300104No, you had friendship not subtext
>>4300106Your mileage may vary.
>>4300097I skimmed through the manga before this aired and the anime played things up quite a bit.I love it when they do that.
>>4300102Friendship is yuri.
>>4300102Get that stick out of your ass.
>>4300097Also had the best OP/ED.
>>4300097If anything, it was like Hakumei & Mikochi
>>4296928Or some people simply want it to be canon yuri. The most normal expecation of things posted here.
>>4300153The more strong they tease, the more people will want it to be canon, at some point it starts working against the work itself when it doesn't plan to deliver.
>>4300166Nah, strong teasing is great if it's consistent from start to finish or a crescendo, like in Hina Logi or Mashumairesh.It only bothers people when it peaks in the middle and then fizzles out, like in Jellyfish or Girls Band Cry.
>>4299579I can't believe the sefure became RNs.
>>4300153Don't reply to retarded ESLs, especially not six days later.
>>4300173What the fuck is RN?
>>4300172There is a difference, those series have actual romantic tropes as a way to tease the audience, Hina's Logi teasing felt almost like fanservice at times with magic suddenly turning the girls gay for each other, which is ironic because it actually delivered in the end, but having romantic tropes and no romantic resolution is an obvious issue, it wasn't only here the reception for those series ended negative, even japanese non yurifans watching those series got confused by it.
>>4300097I love how Clay can kill people without even blinking but she turns into a blushing schoolgirl around Belle. >>4300117Nanawo Akari is the best. I wish they didn't use distortion on her voice in the ED because her normal voice is addictive on its own. She's on tour right now, I want to go so bad.
>>4300201>having romantic tropes and no romantic resolution is an obvious issueThat's an example of what I was talking about.If it has romantic tropes in the middle, it should end on romantic tropes that are at least equivalent in order to not disappoint.It's not the romantic tropes that are the issue, it's the inconsistency with them.
>>4300196Registered nurses, instead of the black market unregistered ones who try to cure every illness with breast milk.
>>4300212>black market unregistered [nurses] who try to cure every illness with breast milk.That's a thing?
>>4300196Roomnates. They are lesbians pretending to be just be "roommates", but are also anti-antinatalist.
Reminder muh inconsistency/backpedal is a meme buzzword and not a real criticism. No one can explain what it meansThe problem IS yuri tropes, then .Without the "yuri tropes" (kiss/confession) GBC and Jelly'd be more "consistent"So this bitching is anti.yuri buzzword and no cope will change this factUnless peoiple can explain how they'd make the show more "consisten" under these 2 rules1) Keep kiss/confession in2) Don't make it maintext. Money people want to keep it subtext
They can't, this is what we are saying, it's a bad compromise, it's just creating disappointment and they are not oblivious to this, they are either toning it down or commiting to it.
>>4300270It's not bad. It's still more yuri and only bothers obnoxious perfectionist critctardsI'll take inconsistency if that means more yuriYou critic retards can keep bitching oblivious of the fact you're asking for less yuri and acting like anti-yuri retards using "muh writing quality" as an excuse
>>4300274You know, summarizing opinions as muh X is a huge indicator you're just wildly strawmanning. Chill out.
>>4300274You're free to eat whatever shit they throw at you, just don't blame others for not following your lead.
>>4300274>You critic retards can keep bitching oblivious of the fact you're asking for less yuri and acting like anti-yuri retards using "muh writing quality" as an excuseThis, it's really not that hard to see that less yuri translates into less yuri, saying that yuri started in 2004 is not an exaggeration when you really try to look at how things were before (without nostalgia glasses)
>>4300277>anti-critic schizo>strawmanningYes. He has been doing this shit for like two years now.
>>4300282Same with you, don't complain that people enjoy what you don't like and don't pretend that denying everything and pretending that your taste is superior will magically translate into more "yuri canon"
>>4300274I don't think it's specifically bad, just proving itself to not be effective at all, instead of getting people to remember that series fondly it's just making them upset at it instead, it's bad when you see japanese normies confused about the lack of resolution.
>>4300263>1) Keep kiss/confession in>2) Don't make it maintext. Money people want to keep it subtextSimple, you do the kiss/confession on the final episode, so the yuri grows over the course of the series instead of reaching the climax halfway though and then being awkwardly sidelined, if not outright ignored, which makes it pointless in retrospect.
>>4300291This argument has been made a dozen times, anon is simply incapable of understanding it.
>>4300291>>4300293I just don’t see hiw that changes anythingYou peopme are just weird and forcing a conplaintIt majes 0 sense to care about thisI also din’t see how GBC can work without the confession eing where it is as a climax to episode 8Nina and Momoka suddenly changing makes no sense without it
>>4300297it did not have to be a confessionjust a sworn brother promise would be the same
>>4300277>>4300282>>4300287>>4300289Jelly had a shitton of problems GBC? Super succesful and so I don’t think the “inconsistency” is a major issue to many peopleIf I’m wrong: tell me how you’d fix the show without taking away yuri or dragging the Momoka/Nina conflict until the end of the show just to have the confession at the end in the name of some nebulous nonsense “consistency”
>>4300300The confession makes more sense than any alternative even that
>>4300301Anon all it takes is a single line to make most people happy and they didn't want to do this and paid the price for it, GBC was succesful before it ended, but it definitely lost some of the audience it was trying to pander to.
>>4300302No it does not, which is why people are complaining.
>>4300297>I just don’t see hiw that changes anything>You peopme are just weird and forcing a conplaint>It majes 0 sense to care about thisYou may not care about it, but it's been explained clearly enough that you should be able to understand it by now.>Nina and Momoka suddenly changing makes no sense without itObviously the story needs to be arranged with that ending in mind to begin with, you can't just move a scene up 5 episodes and expect everything else to still make sense.
>>4300301Make the confession mean something. Have other characters commenting on it, and MomoNina acting on it. Have the final episode song be Void & Catharsis instead of whatever it was.
>>4300300>it did not have to be a confessionIt was never treated as such anyway.
>>4300303Sure. Whatever. Inconsistency is still meaningless and not as terrible as your cult claims it isI also want maintext, but I'm a realist and realize it can't happen. In that context, I prefer the incosistencies over consistency. Even if it's inconsitent: who cares besides some weirdo ciritics? Why care? How is it so much different and worse than past subtext in the long run?
>>4300305All your explanatiions are pretentious critic babble and I'll never understandAny changes to the story to place the confession at the end for muh consistency would make it shitter. The inconsitent story we have is better than anything made to please you consistency weirdos
>>4300306>Make the confession mean something. Have other characters commenting on it, and MomoNina acting on itAlready in the show. Pay attention. If you think it meant nothing,and nothing changed from before episode 8, you prove you consitency retards are not even watching the shows and just bitching to act smart>Have the final episode song be Void & Catharsis instead of whatever it was.Void and Catharsis is fine where it is. Keep proving pandering to consistency just makes the show worse as a whole. Keep proving consistency is irrelevant
>you don't make any arguments>okay you do but they're meaningless and I don't like them, also I'm rightWorthwhile conversation as always.
>>4300309Because it's all stick no carrot, the more expectations you create the bigger people are going to be upset about it when it does not deliver, you may argue they shouldn't be expecting it at all, but it's counter intuitive with what people are being presented with, it's meant to get a emotional response from people at all, it's the whole point.
>>4300307If you want to go such bad faith, then I can say the anime of Sasakoi is also inconsistent and never treated the HimaYori confession as such because it doesn't show their dates or even a kiss.It also backpedals, tones down, whatever the term with their peak not being at the end, but in episode 6 when they confess. This is why all this talk of consistency and yuri levels and climaxing at the end or whatever you preach makes no sense
>>4300312>I'm right because consistency>Consistency is supremeWortwhile conversation as always
When it comes to gay musicians, you need to be at least HayaKoko levels of gay.Simple as.
>>4300318>WortwhileCan't even write in English consistently.
>>4300313Yeah.So many people were upset at GBC. It sells so badAlso, why doesn't this stick and carrot nonsense apply to Sasakoi?. HimaYori yuri also peaks halfway through in the confession because of the skipped scenesYou see now why this weird anaylistical shit is a nonsense argument?Shows have been teasing and not delivering forever and people are fine with it. I don't see how GBC's case is so bad that it deserves special treatment. I don't see why the inconsistency is worth caring about
>>4300320But inconsistency is better.
>>4300320Oh a typo. I lost. I now will become a consistency droneDown with confession and kisses. All hail consistency. Dragging the drama to the end instead of solving it naturally is good if it's in the name of divine consistency
>>4300321how are you find with not deliveringDo you hate yuriDo you not want girls dating, acting like a couple, kissing
>>4300324What do you think of other subtexts?I accept it because I know the shows wouldn't exist otherwise. I want more, but not delivering is not the end of the world. Never has been. Thus why I enjoy subtexts of the past and the present. Otherwise, there'd be no yuri anime to enjoy. Only manga and LNs and their utterly ugly adaptations
>>4300324Anon is defeatist and gaslit himself into accepting and defending this state of things >>4300310>I also want maintext, but I'm a realist and realize it can't happen
>>4300328Why didn't you people complain about subtext inconsistency in the past and in fact let such shows become classics like Nanoha, Madoka or Symphogear?None of them deliver in that way either. For Madoka it takes until Rebellion and people still defended the TV show before Rebellion existed
>>4300311>Already in the show. Pay attention.If there were any significant changes they were too subtle. They weren't any more touchy feely with each other.>Void and Catharsis is fine where it isNo, it's not. It had a million times more 'season finale' energy that whatever song was actually used for that.
>>4300329What inconsistencies? Homura and Madoka didn't kiss midway through the show.
>>4300321They didn't do yuri teasing because they wanted the people who would enjoy it to be upset, not sure why this is nonsense to you, they are going to look back and understand why they are getting this type of response, it's what happened with love live after sunshine S1 which did the exactly same thing, though there was also a large group of people who were opposed to that ship.Because Sasakoi still portrays both of them as a couple while it goes to another pair of girls? People are getting what they expected.>Shows have been teasing and not delivering forever and people are fine with it.People could accept Gochiusa not delivering, but not Semi Friends.
>>4300330Thanks for confirming you consistency retards don't watch the show or are utterly retarded
I just want a married couple with a kid to be called a married couple with a kid and not Best Friends Forever. Is that too much to ask?
>>4300310So you can't imagine that the story could be better than what you got, that's cool with me, but others would have preferred it different, myself included.That's really all there is to it, I have no idea why you're so enraged about this.>>4300317>Sasakoi Anon, you're talking about a love story where the characters officially become girlfriends, date, kiss, etc..., I'm not sure what you expect me to point out here, it has everything that people would've wanted after the GBC confession took place.If the issue you have with Sasakoi is that some stuff is off-screened, I'd say it's a much smaller issue than not happening at all.
>>4300329idk i wish all were more yuri
>>4300332This post makes 0 sense. GBC still pleased people and still sells like hotcakes. The only way I can explain your post is if you live in an alternate reality where the show fails badly
Let's just have the pacing be all over the place. There's no such thing as gradual progression or smooth curves, everything from relationships to pacing to plot must be a graph drawn by a Parkinson's. You don't want things to be 'consistent', do you? A being before B, being before C? How dare you.
>>4300319This why I cant take this retard "huh no i dont want more yuri, cannot happen anyway" when an idol gacha game has a canon lesbian couple
>>4300334Yes, apparently. JP money people are weird. I can get complaining about this. But why now? Why did it take like 20 years for people to complain? Why is it only now that subtext ruins shows? Before the subtext didn't stop people from acting like such shows are good
>>4300338Kiss in the first episode and they act like they barely know each other in the last one. AOTY.
>>4300334It started with light subtext and ended with strong subtext, the yuri in Nanoha had a very positive progression, not sure why you're bringing it up now.If you wanted to compare it to Jelly or GBC, you'd need to have Nanoha and Fate adopt a daughter halfway through, and then not ever talk about it again until the end or something, certainly not act like mothers to her and move in together as well.
>>4300341Break up/romantic tragedy series? Eh, there's a market for that, but keep yuri out of it please
>>4300335I can also cope that the stuff you want in GBC is off-screened. I'm talking about the Sasakoi anime as an standalone story. Manga doesn't count. and how it fails under the same rulesOr at least, the rules as I understand them (because they'll never make sense to me)Also, it's you people who are enraged to the point you keep mentioning the consistency nonsense months after the shows ended. You're obssessed
>>4300336As do it. But this inconsistency is still more yuri than "consistent" subtext of the past
>>4300343There was that korean yuri movie from last year.
>>4300340fuxking retarded asss idoitx fuxker juste bscs ppl wnst more yuri doenst mena show bad inwant more yuribeverywhere fuxk you dumb fuck the world is not vlack and yuri this isnt your stupidb shit culture wars ppl can. Hve nuanaced opinions and citiscism fuxk off KILL YOURSELF
>>4300339>>4300341Keep acting in bad faith and misinterpreting the show.. You only prove you consistency retards are not worth listening to
>>4300344>I'm talking about the Sasakoi anime as an standalone storyOkay, and? It's a dogshit adaptation that wasn't even finished.
>>4300342You mean what happeened? Vivio adopted in StrikerS, but still best friends afterwards in Vivid?
>>4300344>I'm talking about the Sasakoi anime as an standalone storyI don't see what difference this makes, the anime does have the characters becoming girlfriends and dating, and it isn't even over yet.>I can also cope that the stuff you want in GBC is off-screenedBut I don't need to make up an arbitrary headcanon about Sasakoi, the things do happen.
>>4300344>Also, it's you people who are enraged to the point you keep mentioning the consistency nonsense months after the shows ended. You're obssessedYou were the one who made a post completely unprompted when it hadn't been discussed in ages.
>>4300347I can barely understand what you're saying
>>4300341I’vebeen baited by two manga like that. Marching puppy and looking for aoi something.
>>4300347>so mad they can't even wrote properlyAre you sulking.png
>>4300357>looking for aoi somethingHey, they have sex at the end, they just decide it's not worth becoming a couple for reasons I don't think were conveyed very well.
>>4300353> the things do happenNot in the animeUnder this scalation logic, the animer peaks at episode 6 and thus, backpedals, shit pacing, not yuriOf coiurse this is nonsense logic. And I believe it to be so. Yet you people think this logic somehow makes sense
Honestly, GBC isn't even as good as Bandori.
>>4300349Denying the yuri even in the anime is madness. It's a clear show of how this "escalation" and "consistency" shit is a retarded way to analyze shows
>>4300351>Vivio adopted in StrikerS, but still best friends afterwards in VividThey're living together as a family, nothing was ignored or backpedaled from.If Nanoha was living alone with Vivio and Fate just payed the occasional visit you'd have a point, but that's not the case.
>>4300363They do become a couple in the anime, retard. Did you even watch it?
>>4300363>Not in the animeBut they do those things in the anime too, anon.
>>4300365>>Denying the yuri even in the anime is madnessNobody ever did, you just decided to use it as a strawman. People were mad at the anime for cutting out 90% of YoriHima moments after the confession, including what eventually escalates into their first kiss. They still act like a couple in the few scenes that were kept in. Stop being daft.
>>4300354I made it because people had started briging it up unpromted today>>4300172>>4300201>>4300210All posts made before I started
>>4300342>not sure why you're bringing it up now.Because I want a NanoFate wedding in 4k.
>>4300372It's you people being daft and making up nonsense rules to pretend GBC is some special case and justify this sudden obssession with consistency >>4300368Anime fails the consistency test, so it may as well have not happened. Or we can agree "consistency" is a non-argument>>4300369Only become a couple in episode 6, after that, everything is skipped and there's no scalatation. So it fails the consistency escalation testOf course, this is nonsense to me. But hey, if you gotta apply to one show, better apply it to everythingOr we can agree to shut up about this nonsense
Imagine being mindbroken by a word.
>>4300366A family of best firends>backpedals only apply to shows I hate>subtext I like is fine consistent, no backpedalsKeep proving the consistency backpedal shit is a meaningless meme
>>4300380Imagine being mindbroken by a successful TV show to the point you keep bringing up your nonsense months later
how 2 wirte a consitant relationship1. Start at licking feet
>>4300379>Only become a couple in episode 6, after that, everything is skipped and there's no scalatation.What are you talking about? They spend most of the time they're on screen agonizing about being good girlfriends to each other.
GBC will never be yuri.
>>4300386It's yuri subtext done wrong.
>>4300384That's still shit backpedal inconsistent pacing. No escalation. Escalation from confessions is what was skipped: dates, kisses, physical affectionThe truth is: this whole escalation shit makes no sense and never will despite your desperate and forced attemtps at explaining. All I get when I try to apply it to Sasakoi is the most insane interpretations
>>4300389They do go on dates after the confession. A fact you'd know if you actually watched the show.
>>4300386>>4300388Explain why. Explain how it's so much different and worse than past subtexts in a way that makes sense and doesn't use meme words (incoonsistency, escalation, backpedal)
>>4300390I forgot if it happened. Show was shit and forgettable. But abyways, the consistency argument allows you to ingore what happens. Given that consistency retards keep pretending Momoka and Nina didn't change after episode 8
>>4300382>successfulI always find it ironic when people on a board about a niche genre like yuri use success as an argument.
People still defend the yuri in GBC after that interview with the writer?
>>4300392In the past, subtext was the best we got. Times have changed. Stuff like K-On and GBC isn't enough anymore. There's nothing stopping them from going full yuri, so if they don't then we'll just move on to the stuff that is actually yuri. There's way more yuri fish in the sea than in the past. That's exactly what happened with Jellyfish.
>>4300396Qrd?
>>4300395I mean, when the consistency retards argument is "people are angry", gotta remind him that he's wrong and not many are as angry as he claims
>I like X but i wish it were better this or that way>oh???? Youre saying you HATE X????!!!!dumb fucking catfight
>>4300397Nah, you're off the mark, I still love pure subtext shows like Dungeon People this season, I just dislike it when they push forward and then pull back.
>>4300397Subtext is more fun because it requires more engagement. It produces way more fanworks.
>>4300398Watch, the "source" will be "it came to be in a dream"
>>4300400I mean, that is his entire M.O. He has severe autism and will spend hours freaking out over anyone saying anything even vaguely negative.
>>4300396I was told here the interview doesn't count until we see if he inserts those ideas in S2 if it happens>>4300398He said something about family diyanmics and how an idea he had (that didn't make it to tthe end) is Nina is seduced by some handomse vocalist (assumed male but I don't know if he specififed in the inteview. I get conflicting information) and goes to his/her house. There the vocalist would attempt to force him/herself on Nina, and Nina'd get violent and get away. Apparently this scene'd be played as comedy
>>4300401He's right and you're in denial. This "push foward and pull back" is nonsenseGBC is no different, and is in fact better and gayetr in my eyes than this "pure subtext"
>>4300398something about the band members being family-coded, and that he'd have liked to do a scene that started with nina being enticed by a handsome dudethat's definitely not a writer who'd ever treat the confession as romantic
>>4300409>>4300415Yikes. MyGo would never.
>>4300413>you're in denialMy top 3 anime of the past two years were RPG Fudousan, Do It Yourself and Hoshizuku Telepath.
>>4300397Subtext is still all we get>There's nothing stopping them from going full yuri,Then why are there still no maintext yuri originals?. Clearly there's still factors stopping originals from being yuri>we'll just move on to the stuff that is actually yuri.Like what? An ugly adaptation once every half a year? or manga and LNs, I guess>hat's exactly what happened with Jellyfish.Then the same should've happened to GBC instead of selling like hotcakes. The problem with Jelly is that even outside of the yuri dissapointment, it rushed the final arc, and needs to fix a lot more than simply adding a kiss at the end and making MahiKano an explicit couple
>>4300415See? The argument I get is: Then what about the Lyco writer saying he wanted to go further with ChisaTaki. Should we treat him as a yuri writer and Lyco as yuri?. Should we focus on interviews or the content of shows themselves?
>>4300427>the Lyco writerOh dear.
>>4300409The word used was 'ikemen'. Female ikemen exist.
>>4300422OK? I don't see how GBC is different yuri-wiseIt's still the same "tease but no deliver"
My god, you bitches are boring.
>>4300431Shitting on GBC writier because interview means defending Lyco writer because interview
>>4300427>Should we focus on interviews or the content of shows themselvesthe content of the show itself was aligned with the writer interview, the confession wasn't treated as romantic
>>4300437Holy cope.There isn't a japanese in the world who'd think of a woman when he hears "ikemen" in a random conversation, if the writer meant it to be female he'd have specified it.
>>4300427Lyco is yuri though?
>>4300442>the content of the show itself was aligned with the writer interview, It wasn't. family don't kokuhaku to each other, for example. And the ikemen scene is not even there or even hinted at
>>4300447>unironic Majimafag on /u/
>>4300446>family don't kokuhaku to each other告白 isn't a term exclusively used for love confessions, there were plenty of japanese watchers at the time who doubted it was romantic, their comments were posted here too
>>4300443I do agree it's cope. Another comment he made is he wanted this scene because it'd be the kind of thing he isn't allowed to put in idol stuff like Love Live. You can cope female on female seduction and attempted rape is something that's also not allowed in idol stuff, but the context leads to assuming male ikemen because it's males apporaching girls and the girls showing interest instead of ingoring them that's an absolute taboo in idol stuff like Love Live
>>4299479How is this? Saw it recommended at the top of Mangadex along with a couple other yuri titles.
>>4300447See? The interview in question said he wanted to make the 2 girls actually romantic. He said nothing of MajimaSo if we have to focus on interview over show content: this logic means defending Lyco>>4300449Yeah but Nina did say "I love you" before. So it was a love confession. Many JP people after the interview also reacted to the family shit by telling the writer to go fuck his own father if he likes incest so much (as a reaction to the writer comparing Momo Nina to father and daughter in the interview)
>>4300451It's a fun premise but it's harem, so nothing worthwhile is going to come from it yuri wise.
>>4300451Great but only if you like a dumb story about a hetslut being corrected by "fate"
>>4300452>but Nina did say "I love you" before好き is also not exclusive to romantic feelings
>>4300448Trolls will stoop to any level to try and bait their hooks.
Everyone knows Nina is for Hina.
>>4300453I'm sorry are we defining yuri is monogamy-only now?
>>4300456>It's not something you say to a family member either, which contradicts the writer.are you done pretending to know japanese when you clearly don't?
>>4300456>the writer had two girls working together to stop a man>somehow this isn't yuri because the bad guy isn't also a girlIs this your logic? Am I seeing this right?
>>4300460Just worthwhile yuri, if you like it shallow then go for it.
>>4300449>>4300457Sure, either statement taken in complete isolation could be innocuous enough. But together? Back to back? People need to learn what fucking context is, this scrambling to dissect a sentence to completely divest each component of any complete meaning is beyond fucking retarded.
>>4300363They literally start dating you retard, do you think dating starts with a kiss orsomething?
>>4300462No no, you're not listening anon. Clearly because the bad guy was presented as a foil for one of the girls, it means he's actually her real love interest! Duh!
>>4300466And yet a lot of japanese thought it wasn't romantic from the start, but I imagine you know better.
Reminder SuleMio won and gets to be above all this shitposting now.
>>4300472Tragically the proliferation of stupidity exists outside of 4chan too.
>>4300457Explain then why people intepreted the family dynamic part of the interview as incest and made comments about it. They clearly think that if Nina and Momoka are intended as parent and child, it's in an incestuous way. Not everyone sees the scene as non-romantic
>>4300462the problematic part was Nina being enticed by a man
>>4300475Well yeah, there is a reason no one bothers to shitpost about it anymore
>>4300470This dating is still too bland and not an sclationTo defend Sasakoi anime you must abandon nonsense escalation consistency logic
>>4300472Anti yuri shitposters, yes.
>>4300482You don't actually know what a narrative foil is, do you?
>>4300482When did Batman shoot Catwoman off a roof in order to save Robin?
>>4300482No. Like Ellis and LA in El Cazador de la Bruja
>>4300482>And let's do it twice, just for kicks.It wasn't for kicks, they knew exactly what they were doing, they set the bait and it worked wonders.Using this kind of ambiguous phrasing to get away with not committing is commonplace, and that would've been fine if they'd at at least kept up the pace instead of dropping it altogether.
>>4300472And lots of japanese thought it was romantic to the point they thought the famliy dinamics implied incest and said the writer should go fuck his own dad
>>4300488Not synonymous with antagonist or archenemy.
>>4300492I don't think so, at least in El Cazador we knew that LA was infatuated by Ellis, in LycoReco it's more likely that Majima wants Robota's ass than anything with Chisato
>>4300496Pics? How'd the writer respond?
>>4300472>>4300482Can't believe there are two braindead shitposters spamming nonsense at the same time.
>>4300495>ept up the pace instead of dropping it altogether.Not even you can explain what this meansJust admit you hate subtext and wanted maintext and go. Just admit it would have never been "fine" unless they went maintext
>>4300501>Expecting a answer from the guy that complained online because his career was damaged by LL Sunshine.
>>4300501I mean, he ignored it because it was a reply to a tweet about the interview not tweeteed directly to the writer himself. And god knows I can't find the specic tweet nowBut if your'e gonna go "sauce"? Can you provide pics of the tweets of nips who thought the scene was non-romantic from the moment it aired?
>>4300504It's been explained to you ad nauseam anon, it's painfully obvious by now that you're just refusing to acknowledge it.
>>4300510All the "explanations" are nonsense that only pretentious critics care about. If that's all you have, I remain convinced tyou people are just spouting nonsense
>>4300509>Can you provide pics of the tweets of nips who thought the scene was non-romantic from the moment it aired?I don't really care about your sources, but just in case you're actually interested:https://archived.moe/u/thread/4231029/#4237966There was much more on twitter though.
>>4300515What's sad is you people obssessed with pretending this shit makes sense or that GBC is different to other subtexts in any way that matters
>>4300517>yuri pigsAre people insulting yuri fans really a source worth acknowledging? The people denying the yuri are people who hate yuri and yuri fans. Dunno if that's a valid source
>>4300517The evidence is an anti yuri retard calling people names.
>>4300522>>4300523That's just an excerpt from that geek website, if you search twitter by date using the japanese name of the series you'll find several ordinary comments about it.
>>4300525Twitter's too shit. Any tweets about that from that time are buried and impossible to find now.
>>4300529I agree that twitter paging sucks, but advanced search is a thing, they're not harder to find now than they were one day after it aired.
>>4300533No it's not.
>>4300525>ordinary commentsSo anti yuri people denying yuri but aren't insulting yuri fans.
>>4300536If you have better sources, feel free to share.
>>4300533It will always be twitter just like it will always be shit, I'm not going to suddenly start caring about what they do with it.
>>4300537Common sense. The word used has almost always been used in a romantic sense and never to family. According to certain people GBC is the one in a billion exception. Bend the language into a pentadimensional pretzel just to accomodate for this.
>>4300542>I decide what people with a culture and language I don't know think, and if anything shows otherwise it doesn't count
>>4300544Where did she mention the music?.
>>4300544>anon never heard of euphemism
>>4300543The phrase that has been used in a romantic context a million times and to denote familial love zero times is used in this very specific case to not be romantic and to denote familial love. Never before this, and never after this. This is it. The singularity.Nina could say it again to any other character and it would count, but not here.
What's the next big /u/ thing that's going to have thousands of replies in its thread like WfM did?
>>4300559LycoReco Season 2.
>>4300559Watanare anime
Hina and Nina love each other's feet.
>>4300559
>>4300553That's the instrument that's like a saxophone, right?
>>4299579Not gonna lie, I thought this would make people here upset. I guess /u/ has mellowed out these days.
>>4299579>>4299852Never heard of them
>>4300572>themYou're that same retard from before. Don't even pretend otherwise. Fuck off back to twitter.
>>4300334>I just want a married couple with a kid to be called a married couple with a kidAll I want is Yuri manga or anthology dedicated to lesbian families. I'm with you nee-san.
>>4300575No idea what you're schizoing about.Who are these characters
>>4300559The Madoka sequel that is definitely coming out this time for super-real. Only been waiting since 2015.
>Watching someone live blog some ecchi manga they're reading>Girl gets jealous of another girl the guy she's into hangs out with>Turns out his friend is a lesbian>Who already has a cute goth gf>Goth gf gets jealous 'cause she knows main girl is her type tooI know it's not really /u/ relevant, but I wish this kinda casual, off-hand background stuff was more prevalent in general, whether a work is yuri-focused or not.
>>4300610This actually got brought up here when that chapter came out because mangadex had like 200 comments of autistic rage that the childhood friend has a lesbian.
>>4300610>>4300618What is it?
>>4300610We really do need to normalize background and side characters casually being into girls.
>>4300619"Please Put These On, Takamine-san">>4300618Dang, and here I thought the front page being loaded with yuri recs meant mangadex's userbase at large wasn't total trash. Though maybe that's just affected by my own library?
>>4300619Haite Kudasai, Takamine-san.
>>4300618Has a lesbian what?
>>4300629I think I got the wires crossed between "has a girlfriend" and "was a lesbian".
>>4300618Lmao I just went to read the comments. They were seriously mad because one character dares to not be in love with the MC. Obvious self-inserter mentality.
>>4300638(Me)What's even funnier is there's one guy who just read it this year(his comment was from this month) and went back to dislike every pro-yuri comment and like every anti-yuri comment.
>>4300628Oh yeah, I remember this one. There was some guy with an ancient bust avatar (funny how these guys always have the most retarded takes) writing walls of texts how not mad he was in the comments IIRC.
>>4300638>>4300641I was having a giggle over the same shit, hehOne guy randomly went off about how lesbians were going to cause global depopulation and testosterone levels to rise, resulting in famine
>>4300641Anti yuri is a mental disease, who could have see that coming?
>>4300644Which is funny when you see his earlier comment:>I do just let lesbians exist, but these character don't exist. (Not in reality, anyway) They're fictional, and so my criticism comes from a writing/narrative perspective.So are they fictional or not? Lmao.
>>4300642I thought you meant granny tits for a second.
>>4300559Momentary Lily
>>4300664does this look yuri to you
>>4300583The blog linked explains it
>>4300676Absolutely.
>>4300682>Haven't read the newest chapter>Wonder what'll come from last week's near-breakdown>Narita wants to play Cupid>Runs into the principal>Who's a western film buff>and loves the idea of a prom>Lightbulb...so like, between the whole dad rock premise, the IKEA omake, and now this, has it ever come up if Arai is actually from the West? Like inee?
>>4300700Didn't the mangaka already draw prom artwork of the two for merchandise?
>>4300451it's isekai/avoiding guillotine villainess formula but more non-serious that usual. Only two chapters so dunno, looks forgettable-ish (as most isekais) unless the humor gets better.It's on Heros which tends to host funny degenerate series so maybe there's more potential
Inee-sensei, please let Koharu shoot two girls who absolutely hate each other.
>>4300721suddenly mind control doesn't sound so bad now
>>4300721>cupids are responsible for Sorry but I'm not into YuriThe yuri crossover no one knew existed...
>>4300721It took me until seeing アイニー written in her twitter profile that inee is supposed to be pronounced in English and not Japanese...
>>4300737*to realize that inee
>>4300708Yes, last year. It's still 2023 in-universe so it may have been foreshadowing all along.
>>4300754
>>4300708I misread prom as porn...
>>4300700Truly only us westerners know obscure indie rock bands like Nirvana or Stone Temple Pilots.
What would that be?https://twitter.com/shukura_fb/status/1840677979828965544
>>4300781Yuri becomes a permanent subject in schools nationwide.
>this girl who kissed me multiple times keeps coming over to my room>what could be her reason, I cannot figure out this mysteryMiyagi’s pov is adorable.
>>4300781yuri only print label
>>4300781more store exclusive short stories to scam money
>>4300781A crossover where Anis and Euphie must battle the erotic demons Miyagi and Sendai. In the end, Anis and Euphie lose the battle, but no one is left unsatisfied.
>>4300781Yuri goods gacha.to scam more money
>>4300781Five more Adashima clones get greenlit.
>>4300793>>4300791how about... gacha exclusive short stories
>https://x.com/kudo_eru/status/1840677129367015476?s=46This seems a little homosexual for a yuri mangaka to say.
>>4300799I don't think MTL is giving what it's supposed to mean
>>4300781Holy shit they are making yuri hime 2, aren't they?
>>4300564i still believe
Who was in the wrong here?
>>4300564Too controversial for TV
I started reading the Amnesia Yuri.Oh my god they're all so stupid why is it so charming.
>>4300803Tldr? I'm not reading all of that, nigga.
>>4300814NTA but it's a joke, a shitpost made by the author regarding a deleted Gundam reference.
>>4300807>the Amnesia Yuriyou gotta specify
>>4300818I forgot which
>>4300819Was the amnesia cheerful?
It seems trolling has become less effective here these days. Is it because /u/ is satisfied with GBC or is it that the dry spell chased the dumber people away?
>>4300824Anons are too busy fighting in the adashimas wars on the releases thread
>>4300824I was never satisfied with GBC, I just buried it in the ditch with the other things I don't care about anymore.
>>4300825all adashima clones are good
>>4300827It's just flavor of the month, you can guess why people won't talk about GBC anymore but stuff like Hina Logi will always have people remembering it. fondly.
someone make a new thread, it's loading slow even on my gaming pc
>>4300834We're aiming for at least 2.5k
What are you watching in your backlog during the yuri drought?
>>4300837Since there is no yuri, I'm only watching Maou-sama Retry this season.
>>4300822Yes. Quite cheerful. But also stupid. Stupidly cheerful.
>>4300837I'm going to watch the full schedule, I know it will be horrible but I have to have reasons to justify my hatred.
>>4300837I'm rewatching MagiRevo instead of making any headway on any other shows in my backlog.
Tamamushi is good at making tropes youve seen many times her own unique thing.
I forgot...
>>4300833>flavor of the monthIt doesn't help that GBC's kokuhaku was like having decaf or onions "meat".
I thoroughly enjoyed GBC and will continue to do so. fuck jellyfish though
>>4300870YoruKura had the chance to completely btfo GBC in terms of yuri, but in the end, it's a wasted opportunity, one might say a forgone conclusion considering it completely shat the bed near the end. Never trust a het writer, /u/.
>>4300837I never bother with scraps so my yuri backlog is only manga/LNs
GBC and Yorukura are both yuri.
I still listen to their OP/ED...
>>4300837There is Baby Walküre.And that other thing if you want to see Sugai Yuuka and Nakamura Yurika kiss.
since wer're on the topic... rolling girls
>>4300837Mahou Girls sequel is coming on January, so it's a perfect chance to watch the original and maybe some other Precure series.
>>4300934Should have been Rolinga Girls
Them!
>>4300833>>4300866>muh Hina LogiI hate how inconsistent you people are. Back then when Jelly and GBC were airing you used Hina Logi as an example of not delivering and not confirming anything, but now it's maintext?Off yourselves
I'm one of the 100 people that actually bought the Hina Logi BD. AMA
>>4300960Actually, an average of 888 people bought Hina Logi.
>>4300960i bought the western release ツ
y'all will shit on subtext for not having a kiss or confession, but then go and rewatch marimite for the 5th time
>>4300966Sorry anon, but I tried Propofol but Maria Sama is the only thing that can get me to sleep for sure!
>>4300873>>4300878They're both fine for what they are, though are held back by flaws and missed opportunities. YoruKura felt like it had a more solid ending, but the last stretch of the story to get there was all over the place. GBC felt more consistent overall, though without any particular highs after the confession.And both are continuing to tease post-airing too, though whether that's a positive or a negative will probably vary based on your overall feelings towards 'em.
>>4300966Marimite has multiple kisses in it, and I doubt most of modern /u/ has watched it even once. This post would have worked better with something like Madoka (sans-movie).
>>4300971How bad is the cope gonna be when the new movie comes out and that dance in the trailer is the most homoerotic thing about it?
>>4300966Nobody fucking watches pre-2010s stuff, /u/ just larps like they do.
>>4300989I don't even like yuri, I just never understood how to use this site and this is the only board I got access to
>>4300966I only rewatch Kannazuki no Miko
New to yuri stuff, wondering if Madoka would be a good starter.Also, I like the art of Akebi Chan anime as well but i'm aware it's only ST. Nonetheless, is it worth watching? anything (like het/male gaze) to look out for?I heard the manga has got a lot better in the recent chapters so i'll give it a read as well
>>4301002Akebi-chan is great but yeah there's not a ton of reasons to watch the anime when the manga is like 4x further and a lot gayer.
https://x.com/ogino_jun/status/1840751652166680839
>>4301003the bookmark filler episode was great, and the so was the OST. those are reason enough to watch it
>>4301003The manga has more male gaze, thoughAkebi is very yuri but also very “male gaze” both in manga and animeGiven anon said that bothers him, better be honest
>male gaze schizos
>>4301007They're at the same level.
>>4300978People will join the CCP just for a chance to invade Taiwan and get to Urobuchi
>>4301009For the millionth time, male gaze has been a term in feminist literature for like 60 years. It's not an internet buzzword. Shoo shoo now.
speaking of the lesbian female gaze, watch seven deadly sins (not that one the other one)
>>4301013The gacha game for this was so insanely gay.
>>4301013Just link to the AniDB page like I do (ir MAL or whatever’s your favorite database site)https://anidb.net/anime/12324
>>4301015>insanely gayin a good way or bad way
>>4301012The issue with the term is that it's too subjective. One person's male gaze is another's preferred sexualization.
>>4301017Good way, like entire storylines centered on how badly one girl wants to fuck another.
>>4301019There's no value judgement inherently attached to the term, it's just a way to describe directorial choices. Most of the time it's then followed up with a value judgement though.
>>4300800The MTL is accurate as long as you don't misinterpret it as a specific girl.
I just don't understand how you guys can delude yourselves this context makes any sense within japanese publications. They use sex appeal as a main selling point all the time, shoujo and josei also does the same with men, unless you are a hypocrite I am just not aware of what you could possible enjoy.
>>4301013Is this a joke? I watched it and thought it was disgusting. And I'm a lesbian. Easily the worst anime recommendation on this board, along with Queen's blade, another repulsive piece of turd.
>>4301030First you are not a woman. Second you are not a lesbian. Third those animes were in fact popular with the female demographic because women love smut shit like this even men are embarassed to watch.
>>4301030>larping as a lesbianyou're not fooling anyone lol
>>4301034Yeah yeah yeah. And your next line is gonna be about how Valkyrie Drive had a mostly female viewerbase even though that's misinfo based on one event.
>>4300966Once is enough. Only old anime I have rewatched is Blue Drop, but that play scene at the end is always boring, so I just fast forward it to her death.
>>4301034>>4301036Rather than smut, they were more like scat.
You have to eat the eggs /u/.
>>4301030>And I'm a lesbian
>>4301043>scatThere was no scat, water tentacles aside the worst thing was some weird lactation shit involving one of the few (or maybe the only one) hetsluts of the show and in the end the most important thing was the relationship between Maria and Lucifer.
>>4301013Well, technically it uses SIN as a way to distinguish it from the other series.What I find funny about these series and in contrast to the Het ones, is that these ones can be a little more complex or competent than people give them credit for, like QB.
>>4301034>>4301038weve been over this a bilion timesscchi shows without male characters attract more fem fans than the ecchi shows with maleswomen are still not target and not the majority of the fanbase
>>4301051The reason Lucifer opposed God in the first place is because of Maria and also consider that there are at least 2 secondary (yuri) couples.Bitoku on the other hand is a piece of shit.
>>4301013I can't believe more than 4 anons (me included) watched this.
>>4301052>like QBmid
>>4301053>fanbaseNot this shit again, but maybe you're right. The costumer base for this show was people that buy erotic plastic dolls (I don't remember its exact name)
>>4301053>women are still not target and not the majority of the fanbaseNot one said they were.
>>4301057yes, promo for toys like many anime18+ PVC figs=toys
>>4301057>>4301059That's basically Hobby Japan's business model, that's why they don't let something like QB die or something like Ikkitousen technically still be alive, something similar happens with Saint Seiya.
>>4301059Ah so those shows are for actual freaks. No wonder they're so detestable.I'm a good Catholic girl so I like KyouKano and anything by Flowerchild.
>>4301062this is the worst roleplay ive seen in yearsplease shut up
>>4301064Why do you insist I'm pretending? Do you actually believe there are only men here? And worse, you actually think people enjoy watching Maria being tortured on some type of wooden horse? One has to be raised quite poorly to turn out like that.
>>4301073(Me) Oops I meant to say Lucifer.
>>4301073Don't think that your tastes apply to everything, there are people who like that, although in the case of SIN it made sense for the plot, they are demons, what did you expect?
>>4301073>some type of wooden horse?is a classic
>>4301013Apart from MahoAko, were there any other super ecchi yuri shows after this one?
>>4301030>>>/y/
>>4301081nope, not since 2017 to my knowledge. you have ecchi shows, but none of them really come close to mahoako or SIN
>>4301081There are the basics QB and VD, although Bikini Warriors is also a parody, but also 2 new girls become a couple at the end of the episode where they appear and possibilities with other characters.
>>4301073That's like a cliche for BSDM scenarios so that was white noise to me but the most interesting thing is that all the tortuee that Lucifer endures was, surprisingly, a plot point.
>>4301044Eat the pork cutlet bowl.EAT THE CUTLET
>>4301082Ew. Hard pass.
>>4301044This is how you get worms.
>>4301085>>4301079I give special treatment to Mahoako because at least Baiser does care deeply for the girls. The highlight is Loco and Leber tho. But Lucifer's scene was straight up torture. It horrified me.
>>4301095That's a step needed to become a sin and thus be able to claim Hell's throne. Like that anon said what did you expect from demons.
>>4301095Go back to Precure, pussy. What do you expect from an anime involving literal demon lords from hell?Hell is all about eternal torture
>>4301097Hope Ito comes back
>>4301097>what did you expect from demonsThat they be dumb and easily manipulated by malicious angels and magical girls.
PS5 Pro, Mai! Please!
>>4301112Mai buying Renako a retro themed ps5 pro but having her pay her back in sexual favours at extortionate rates.
>>4301112>But Renako I heard it has no...>(slap)>We talked about this before, be a good girl and fucking buy the PS5 pro or I won't let you watch me and Ajisai doing it anymore
>>4301013Is this really yuri? Because the official box art of the DVD discs show the girls with what is clearly semen on them. Or maybe someone can explain to me what it's supposed to be? The art is on gelbooru, and I'm not going to link to it.
>>4301118mayo maybe? its yuri for people who wish to put their mayo over the girls
>>4300941Toko cumming 15 times while Komaru shaves her hairy cunt!
>>4301051The music genre. not the fetish
>>4301099>What do you expect from an anime involving literal demon lords from hell?I expected each lord to have a torture themed after their infernal domain, not BDSM.
>>4301120Shaving is kinda gross not gonna lie. But trimming most of it is nice.
>>4301126Gross hairy pussy haver!
>>4301127yeah I want my pussy to look like a 12 year old's - statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
>>4301118No idea. There are almost no males in the show with the exception of some spirit? with a male voice and that time Lucifer took the form of a old guy (always clothed so no futa there), also I don't remember a scene like that in the anime.>>4301119Don't think so, the gluttony demon ate a lot but I don't remember she or Lucifer putting mayo on their meals.
>>4301084>reading comprehension
>>4301120>shaves
>>4301130>yeah I want my pussy to look like a 12 year old'sI'm Itou Hachi and I approve of this post
>>4301095How the hell are you in 4chan? Go visit Encyclopedia Dramatica's Offended and come back once you're completely desensitised.
>>4301145>le internet is edgy and meanWow I thought you types all died out in like 2017
>>4300966I got bored after watching 3 episodes and didn't care enough to remember all the character names and titles
>>4301146It might be a poor attitude for online socialization in general, but c'mon, this is 4chan. If you expect any better you really, really are in the wrong place.
>>4301148NTA, going and looking at pictures of dead bodies or whatever to prepare yourself for being on /u/, or actually even just about anywhere on 4chan, is legitimately mentally insaneI've seen people spam that shit on 4chan like, twice I think in 15 years? Both antiyurifags oddly enough
>>4301148It doesn't have to be, you're only acting like it's the norm because you were exposed to it early on and got desensitized. It's really not something to be proud about.
>>4301150The horrors you might see on /u/ are far worse.
Reminder that /u/'s favorite manga contained a legitimate murder.
>>4301154>/u/'s favorite mangaMaybe I'm the one that is out of touch, but I always assumed kitakawafags were just the loudest. Are series the get autistically brought up here all the time like kitakawa and watanare really a lot of people's favourites?
>>4301002What the hell is an ST?
>>4301162Subterranean. The reptoids really like Akebi
>>4301118If we talk about the actual content in the anime (which is what matters) you have at least 4 or 5 (maybe 6) girls explicitly in love with others, the plot revolves around a girl in love with another, that being her motivation for her actions.Rather than humanizing demons, it shows that sins in themselves are not so bad, especially the sin of lust.>>4301134It's just a bonus for the perverted fans (which ironically aren't many) but it's like taking seriously the covers of other works that have no real relation to the content or are visual jokes.
>>4301091Not a problem.
>>4301160Kitakawa is liked everywhere. Even the people who rated it low on Mangadex because they pretended to be disgusted by it actually like it.
>>4301168they are just tsunderes
>>4301168I don't like that they didn't survive dying.
There was a manga collection thread on /a/ like two or three weeks ago and surprisingly there were quite a few people who have Kitakawa in their collection.
>>4301154/u/'s favorite manga is Suzunari, motherfucker.
>>4301176In truth nobody even knows what Suzunari is. It could be a brand of rice for all we know.
>>4301178The cool thing is that if you do know what it is and have read it, you can be all smug with all the secret lesbian knowledge obtained from it that other ignorant fools lack.
I thought the favourite manga of /u/ was the terrible witch 4koma everybody has already forgotten about.
>>4301185What is that? Doesn't ring a bell.
ZenKowa volume 3 already sold out of its stock at Gamers online shop. Looks like it'll get reprinted in a few months too. Looks like it really might become a long-running series.
>>4301171Not everyone can be born a highlander.
How do we go about updating the recommended manga and anime charts? Enough time has passed to at least give it a full review. I was surprised it doesn't even mention Citrus - which came out a full 12 years ago.
Anyone here playing MTG? Any other yuri couples?
>>4301164So why does the official art depict semen on them? And if it's for the perverted fans as you say and shouldn't be taken seriously, that makes it ok? If Sono Hanabira or MahoAko had promotional material with the girls in implied sex acts with someone off screen and with semen on them, that shouldn't be an issue?
>>4301200Chandra and Nissa are a couple and kissed officially like last year.
>>4301186See, even you don't remember it.
>>4301200>>4301202Saheeli and Huatli are also a couple. They had a short story focused on them that was pretty cute.
>>4301201Because it's not semen and you should stop thinking about semen.
>>4301198You're the thousandth person to ask this and the answer is that the mods don't care about /u/ (further evidenced by the deranged shitposters that continually sperg out in these threads).
>>4301207Oh, it's not? I guess it's ok to link it if that is the case. Since you know what it is then, can you tell me what it is exactly? Maybe there is a larger uncropped version you can show me that provides context?https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4818027https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4818030https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4594993
>>4301201The problem is you, because you are projecting too hard what you want to see or believe, so please stop mentioning that fluid on a yuri board or do you also have a problem with the ED of Mahou Shoujo Site and that's why it's not yuri either?
>>4301214There is no context because this was not made to be taken seriously and less in the obsessive way in which you do it, this also has official Doujins that may or may not be canon.
>>4301216Never seen it, but I went ahead and watched the ED. Didn't see any of the girls with semen on them. So that's already a big plus.>>4301222So as long as it's not meant to be taken seriously, then it's ok. We can swap any girl in the images linked here >>4301214 with someone from Strawberry Panic and it would be ok and no one should complain about it?
>>4301244Stop concern trolling already.
>>4301116>What is Astrobot?
>>4301245Don't tell me what to do.
>>4301244We're talking about a show that was improved by its writers that gave it yuri and a actual plot, think of it like the "modern" Koihime Musou and if you don't understant it treat the anime as its own thing, also some anon said that it had a gacha with more yuri in it so thls seems like another VD situation.
Alien stage MiziSua Cure cover:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyX-PxhNxes
Thoughts on Satou 445?
>>4301254I understand what you are trying to say when you call it a "modern Koihime Musou". I refuse to watch Koihime Musou since it is based on a het hentai game. The anime removing all the het is not important to me, since I will always considered it to be tied to the game. I know Seven Deadly Sins is not based on hentai game, but the art being discussed was released with its DVDs. I know actual ecchi yuri anime is rare, but I do not think something like KoiHime Musou or Seven Deadly Sins is something that should be held in a positive light in terms of ecchi yuri or yuri in general. Especially for the time we are in now.
>>4301254>>4301293someone that have been the MC appeared in KM, and they kicked him out
>>4301200>>4301202I prefer Chandra and Lilliana.
>>4301293>I refuse to watch Koihime Musou since it is based on a het hentai game. The anime removing all the het is not important to me, since I will always considered it to be tied to the game.Actual mental illness.
>>4301297Is refusing to watch "yuri" based on hetshit really so crazy?
Just found out about the sequel. I feel dumb, betrayed, soiled. Lower than Tarumi after 50 office ladies.
>>4301310Is Ruka gaze or Suuna gaze better yuri?
>>4301311The sequel follows the bad end though, if you actually romance the girls the timeline shifts completely.
>>4301293i also refuse to watch koihime and Yamibo for the same reason. youre essentially watching a non-canon spinoff, and in the case of koihime, an ecchi spinoff where the yuri is just fanservice and never amounts to anything. Theres also another anime that was based off a het dating sim that got turned into yuri fanservice too that i forgot the name of it, for some reason a lot of anime adaptations of VNs/eroges just cut out the male MC and turned it into makeshift yuri in the mid 2000s. I guess if it was still 2007 and you had limited options, it could scratch the itch, but theres not much point in watching them now. I will make an exception for milky holmes though, since i dont believe the male mc was ever a love interest or anythingalthough for seven deadly sins, i dont like the bonus illustrations either, but the show is explicit yuri that goes beyond just fanservice, so you can pretty much just chock it up to bad taste fanservice and not let it effect the show much. although the actual show did have a few scenes, most notably with lust where there were a lot of nameless male onlookers watching iirc>>4301297nta but Its the same thought process as scientific railgun or prisma illya. youre essentially watching spin-offs of het that will never amount to anything in canon, and all future interpretations of the character will have them flirting with some personality void of a self-insert male MC. its not a mental illness or an unreasonable request to want your lesbian characters to be lesbians in all continuities and not just lesbians for fanservice spin-offs
>>4301304When it's completely unrelated het, then yes, it's deranged behaviour
>>4301313Still /u/ should have told me. I thought we had something special.
>>4301319ive mentioned it a few times in one of the games threads but kept getting called out by spergs saying 'just ignore the sequel then'
>>4301318>unrelated its the source material, dum dum
>>4301314>youre essentially watching a non-canon spinoff>youre essentially watching spin-offs of hetThis is even more retarded than the last one, you are actually media-illiterate, if not plain illiterate.>its not a mental illness or an unreasonable request to want your lesbian characters to be lesbians in all continuitiesIt absolutely is because it relies on a fundamental misunderstanding of how fiction and adaptations work. It's a symptom of not being able to tell fictiom and reality apart.I'm glad retarded fucktards like you are confined to this thread so you can't spread your mental illness to the rest of the board.
>>4301321Yes, it's completely safe to ignore the sequel when it never happens due to your actions.
>>4301322Adaptations are unrelated to the source material. You wouldn't call Disney Pinocchio a murderer because he killed Jiminy in the original book.
>>4301321Those spergs are right. In fact, you are the sperg.
I know it's hard for people who only see yuri as a fetish to understand why how seriously the series take the yuri matters to us, but in the end of day no matter how much you attack others anons for having this opinion with pathetic childish wording like "media-illiterate" they are the majority, you already lost this fight and have nothing to present, literally every franchise that tried to do this flopped hard, the only one which didn't was Hidan Aria no AA which lasted for several volumes, because it actually managed to resonate with the yuri audience since it actually took the yuri serious. You literally have no talking points, the premise you want people to accept was already rejected a long time ago by the people who actually buy yuri.
>>4301323>buzzword>insult>ad hominemnice argument, shitposter. enjoy your het. May as well claim onimai is yuri because you skipped the scenes where they explain the MC is actually a dude, or claim kissxsis is yuri because you closed your eyes whenever the brother was on screen >>4301325pinocchio was a loose adaptation of a book from like 80 years with no involvement from the original team or anything. These anime adaptations are made in collaboration with the original creators and work as an advertisement for the source material and use it as the selling point to market the anime. no one goes into a disney movie going 'i cant wait to see how my favorite book little mermaid got adapted for the big screen'. its not like harry potter or something where the books have an active readership and fanbase alongside the movies, with overlapping fans.You cant honestly tell me if they made a Rance anime, but just removed the main character and made it so all the girls just did cliche butt gropes and made bust envy jokes for 12 episodes, itd be heralded as a yuri classic.Or if morinaga milk made an anime adaptation of Girlfriends where she changed the ending and made the two get married off to some boys, you wouldnt care and it wouldnt affect how you view the series one bit, since its a separate continuity
yuri fans have zero standards, fujos would never settle for het adaptations
>>4301329I mean, yuri fans didn't settle for them, as you an easily tell by the amount that exist.
the problem with het adaptations is that its pretty much an unwritten rule that the 'yuri' i solely for fanservice and no explicit relationships will come from it, or be carried over to other works in the series, because at the end of the day, the series exists to please self-insert waifufags
>>4301328>May as well claim onimai is yuri because you skipped the scenes where they explain the MC is actually a dude, or claim kissxsis is yuri because you closed your eyes whenever the brother was on screenThanks for confirming you are in fact mentally-defective.
>>4301332>Didn't deny itAs expected
>>4301333Nor do I need to because you obviously have no fucking clue how profoundly retarded that comparison was. Every post of yours just makes it more and more clear that your opinions are worth jackshit.
https://twitter.com/unicococ/status/1840976568287645716Why, Yuniko?
>>4301337No, his point is very clear, yuri is just a fetish to you, there is no reason for you to have any type of standards at all, you just want to be confortable with whatever you are fapping to and acts like a little child throwing a tantrum when turns out others are not and by others I mean the whole industry, since all your niche fanservice shit which didn't take the yuri seriously all flopped one after the other or just abandoned the yuri alltogether at some point. You are a pathetic unloyal bitch and another thing I unfortunate I am unable to say.
Rabbit, rabbit, rabbit.
>>4301343Which tag
>>4301328>Or if morinaga milk made an anime adaptation of Girlfriends where she changed the ending and made the two get married off to some boys, you wouldnt care and it wouldnt affect how you view the series one bit, since its a separate continuityI can't tell if this is meant to be sarcastic. Non-autistic people would in fact understand the concept of separate continuities.
>>4301160It's voted as the yuri manga people wanted to adapt the most.
I'm gonna start watching Koihime Musou after I'm done with Mayonaka Punch. Any yuri anime that our resident concern troll hates must be good.
>>4301200I've got a commander deck focused on those two. You can pair their individual cards as partner commanders and they have fun synergy together. They've got a short story as well.But also, the two other pairs people said. I don't know of any other couples of the top of my head, although there's at least a couple singular cards I can't remember why are homos; Parnesse and Errant. There's also cards of the BG3 characters if you care for that.
>>4301116Stop projecting your fetish onto your friends/crushes Kaho
>>4301383This is ugly.
>>4300781Soon.
https://twitter.com/fantasia_GLThis is the new project. It's fucking nothing.
>>4301392It could have been yuri hime 2...
>>4301392Contest with publication promises, monthly stream.
>>4301392Every time japanese medias announce something, it's nothing important. And every time people fall for it.
>>4301392It’s your chance anons, go write yuri.
>>4301393Accidentally posted on previous thread
>>4301401The first one was canceled after three volumes, while the other is still ongoing and reached the end of volume 6 of the LN. You can just read the latter, though it kinda rushes through the very beginning.
I'm gonna write the isekai Kitakawa that I've always wanted and when it gets picked up for a manga adaptation, I will request they hire Manio as the artist.
>>4301403>misses months and months of deadlines
>>4301288based and her ultimate triumph in rendering shio completely and entirely enamored by her for the rest of her life to the point of fantasizing making out with her over half a decade later should go down in history as an all-time yuri victory
Ice girls (job) yuri.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceman_(occupation)
>>4301440>boy in the titleI know we let Candy Boy slide, but seriously?
>>4301399Except it literally said what it was and what would be the context and people deluded themselves would be anime from properties they don't even own.
>>4301435You need to do Elec Man first.
>>4301327KM lasted for 4 anime seasons so it wasn't a flop, also I don't see anyone caring about it's shitty game anymore so I really doubt it was waifufags the ones that carried the anime.>>4301328When you judge a work you need to judge it by itself, and you also need to think a little more about what matters to really old franchises with a source material that nobody gives a shit about, remember that not all authors have the power that Nasu or the Index guy have over their original ideas like in the case of KM, nobody gives a shit about the games in fucking 2024 but people still remember the yuri anime, in the case of Sin we're talking about a show made yuri by the writers of the show just like Blue Reflection Ray or Lapis: Re Lights, the owners understood that their franchises were yuri franchises and those shows died as yuri in the end.
>>4301440Clip your nails.
>>4301328The male character doesn't appear in the anime, nor is he mentioned. He doesn't exist. The only relationships in the anime are between girls.How is that not yuri, or just fanservice, if the anime exists on a timeline that's completely unrelated to the game?
>>4301456Koihime aired in 2009 when the concept of was yuri was barely existent and there were only few anime airing each year, It definitely wasn't the barely existent yuri audience carrying the show either. There is no way to evaluate things this way, rather it's just nonsense to assume you understand the intentions behind those series, those animes were all meant to sell non yuri content, this is their legacy and the reasons why as time moves on they are just going to be completely forgotten like Koihime was. And the sole reason for this is the yuri audience growning standards as more yuri content is produced.
>>4301440>series where a girl has a boyfriend and kisses him every time he appears>yuri>>4301458Only the fingers that matter need have clipped nails
>>4301380There is nothing as useless as negative comments on anonymous message boards. The Koihime Musou anime is quite fun.
>>4301477>animes
>>4301478It does feel like it's too much desu, it's of course yuri because the girls do end together and kiss every chapter, but Tokubetsu na Chuutohanpa has a similar premise but is just better written with actual character interactions and chemistry, while in this series is just... the protagonists sulking while looking at nothing or at each other from (what usually is a very long) distance, this type of writting is very reminiscent of classic shoujo and classic shoujo used to be the mockery of the industry for being notoriously bad.
>>4301327Tou concern trolls will never be the majority
>>4301329Fujos are worse. They’re happy shipping boys from literal het stories. Boys that are explicitly het. Like Issei with the blonde swordsman Kiba from High School DxDOr the self insert Sensei MC with the Black Suit villain from Blue Archive
>>4301477>the concept of yuri was barely existentNanoha StrikerS already airedNot to mention Revolutionary Utena, ShizNat from Mai-HiME or Kannazuki no Miko
>>4301490There is nothing to even concern troll about this is the point, you are literally arguing a discussion that already was settled a long time ago.
>>4301493Yes anon, anime with yuri content existed before 2009, like for example strawberry panic which wasn't subtext, tragic or fanservice, just girls being unequivocally gay, but by this point there was no core yuri audience and the companies doing yuri had no idea who it was for, even strawberry panic had a game with an embarassing (platonic) boy mode
Everyone I disagree with is a concern troll
>>4301380>>4301483>Any yuri anime that our resident concern troll hates must be good.It's always been that way, if it's a fun anime and they have a lot of characters, with varying levels of yuri between the characters, from the one who has a harem of girls just for her (and chases the MC girl) going through basically a married couple, to a shiptease between these 2 (it's my favorite couple from that anime)
>>4301476You also have examples like AoKana or NekoPara, they don't rule out the male MC, but for some reason the adaptations rule out the Het (which is the important thing) and he even basically becomes a secondary character without much real importance.Even within the waifu-gacha world, you have good ports (because they're not Het) like Azur Lane or Alice Gear Aegis (and many more) that had no real reason to discard the Het/MC completely, but in the end they did it creating a better experience (especially compared to Blue Archive or Pricone)
>>4301440Pass
>>4301493Can these even be considered yuri under the logic of the anon who sees het everywhere?>>Revolutionary UtenaAccording to "logic", the existence of the anime nullifies the movie.>>Nanoha This is a spin-off of what is basically an eroge-Het and which in the original concept was Het.>>ShizNat from Mai-HiMEan anime that is basically 90% Het and with a manga that everyone hates and pretends doesn't exist, but by applied logic, it would be completely Het too.>>Kannazuki no Mikobut the horrible Amnesian manga exists, that magically rules out yuri in the entire franchise.If all that seems stupid, it's because the logic of that anon doesn't make any sense.
Lesbian tax collector. Open the door please.
>>4301503Because in the case of Nekopara it's just an alternate POV and it's very logical from a business sense, they sell you the girls in the anime by having them interacting the most so people will buy the games where they can romance and fuck them, this is what the whole package is and not a single person, especially the creator, tried to ever imply otherwise.
>>4301506>According to "logic", the existence of the anime nullifies the movie.Utena is an actual case of conflict, even the mangaka was a very know homophobic and Ikuhara hated him.>This is a spin-off of what is basically an eroge-Het and which in the original concept was Het.Nanoha literally got fucked in the prototype series, this is one of the reasons why the anime sidelined certain characters as fast as it did.>an anime that is basically 90% Het and with a manga that everyone hates and pretends doesn't exist, but by applied logic, it would be completely Het too.It's just a yuri couple in a non yuri anime, there was never anything more than this, people just remember the series because it was rare to see this.>but the horrible Amnesian manga exists, that magically rules out yuri in the entire franchise.It's just a bad yuri series.
>>4301496>there was no core yuri audience and the companies doing yuri had no idea who it was forThat's not true. By 2009 we were closer to the end of the first golden age of yuri when Sasameki Koto and Aoi Hana flopped so hard that yuri anime was almost killed.
>>4301516>It's not true>But the yuri anime all flopped very hard proving your point
>>4301506I mean, if we’re going to act line prototypes matter for Nanoha, is the Saber romance in Fate Stay Night yaoi because the prototype idea was an otome with a different female MC and non-genderswapped King Arthur?In fact, Lyrical Toybox just makes Lyrical Nanoha gayer because where Chrono was Nanoha’s rival to lover in Toybox, we now have Fate taking his place in Lyrical Nanoha with Chrono having a different role
>>4301519There was a core yuri audience but apparently they didn't buy Sasameki Koto and/or Aoi Hana, why? Who knows but what we know it's that KM had several seasons and now nobody gives a shit about their characters outside of yuri circles and nobody gives a shit about its hetshit games so who the fuck buyed the KM anime discs?
>>4301524Of course it did, it was meant to promote several games, as much you want to claim nobody gave a shit about them they were in fact the reason for the investment in the anime.
>>4301509So you mention the Het in the anime then, I know it's there, but it's not where many would think.>>4301515The problem is that you are justifying the nonsense I wrote, instead of dismissing it as meaningless; the logic of "anon het" does not apply to reality.>>4301521but when you realize that there are people, who without any irony use Lyrical Toybox as an argument to completely discard yuri in Nanoha, it is not even raised as a possibility (subtext) but is completely discarded, I also read the same shit in a stupid blog of someone discarding any yuri in GUP for reasons.
>>4301516>>Sasameki KotoLet's be honest, at least the anime was basically SOL (like most romance) and couldn't possibly capture the interest of many people, especially back in the day where having clone mecha series and super generic harem was seen as a good thing.>Aoi HanaNo matter what some people say or the director complaining about fans not buying the anime at the time, this is not a particularly good series, especially considering how yuri it tried to promote itself and how little it actually ended up delivering (I'm talking about the anime, if that applies to the manga, it's pure coincidence)
>>4301525And that's why they mocked the SI in S1 and there was no romantic or sexual interaction with the two named guys in S3 and S4, if you really think about it KM led to Otome Paradox and that led to other ecchi yuri being made so it's not unlikely that execs knew that there was a potential market for yuri spin-offs of their hetshit franchises, something that isn't true anymore because we have our own fantasy/action franchises now.
>>4301532What reality? Utena is one of the foundation stones for yuri but also something yuri authors were specifically trying not to be. Nanoha is a dead franchise besides several attemps of continuing it. Mai Hime is a dead franchise. Amnesian is still shit. Ultimately you are just proving his point, people do care about all this stuff, especially and more importantly when people in fact have more options to spend money on.
>>4301525That's not how you promote things. People playing the game because they got lured in by the anime will immediately notice the game has nothing to do with the anime and stop playing. And viceversa with people watching the anime because they played the game before.The same applies with those franchises that ditched the male MC from the game and just did whatever in the anime (Galaxy Angel and Milky Holmes)
>>4301539>SIWhat is this? Can you fuckers stop using abbreviations that can mean many things at once?
>>4301552Self Insert, it was used several times here on /u/
>>4301553It's the first time it's used in this page, if you are not retarded you would have spelled it out in full and start abbreviating on the 2nd use.
>>4301539I wouldn't call those yuri spinoffs, just spinoffs with yuri fanservice, they probably believed there was some market for this, but it seems to have died off eventually.>>4301547>That's not how you promote things. People playing the game because they got lured in by the anime will immediately notice the game has nothing to do with the anime and stop playing. And viceversa with people watching the anime because they played the game before.Whether it's was a smart thing to do is another question, you have dozens of gatcha adaptations that were far more nonsensical for what was supposed to be a commercial, their reasoning was very simple however, our selling point are the girls, we change the narrative to promote the girls, the men interested in the girls will buy our game.
>>4301556I tried to be kind but if you can't recognize a abbreviation that it's commonly used here then maybe you're a newfag. What will be you next question? What's a Yaya.
>>4301552Silicon integrated. Beware of robots!>>4301562>What's a Yaya.Ayaya! Ayaya!
>>4301562It's not commonly used here at all. Stop your bullshit.
>>4301560>I wouldn't call those yuri spinoffsDon't matter what you call them, they're yuri spin-offs. Something important to remember it's that any work of fiction needs to be judged as a standalone product, ok you can do a exception if that means financing a hetfag author; like Nasu, the author of Index or the writer of Blue Reflection when the het gacha was alive; but if we talk about dead franchises then there's no harm in watching things like KM.
>>4301545No, the point was that yuri couldn't be dismissed for nonsense, the current validity of those franchises is irrelevant to the argument, especially when the period before 2009 was used as an argument as well.
>>4301567>Something important to remember it's that any work of fiction needs to be judged as a standalone productI honestly don't understand why you act like rules like this exist at all, people can judge whatever they want the way they see fit and they do it all the time, if anything I would say fiction almost never gets judged as a standalone product.>but if we talk about dead franchises then there's no harm in watching things like KM.There is no harm in watching anything, but it will always be a commercial for you to buy a game where the girls get fucked and there is no way to dissociate from it, same way Sin Nanatsu no Taizai will always have official art of the girls with semen on them (and in one of them the girl is clearly getting fucked too). Whenever you talk about those series this will always come up as it's part of it, it happened 15 years ago, it happens today and will continue happening 15 years from now.>>4301568You are the one who brought reality into question, it's 2024 and none of those series are yuri relevant anymore and in some cases like Nanoha they actually tried to.
>>4301567>Nasu, the author of Index or the writer of Blue Reflection when the het gacha was aliveThis doesn't exactly apply, because everything in the Nasuverse, Raildex and Blue Reflection references other parts of their respective franchises. You can't separate, say, Railgun from Index, but you can easily separate the Koihime Musou anime from the game.
>>4301440Clip your nasty ass fingernails.
Will this become yuri?
>>4301576A series doesn't stop being yuri-relevant with time.
>>4301589Then why did the audience lost interest on them?
>>4301581It already is.
>>4301598I see many arts to celebrate Nanoha's 20th anniversary. But also, yuri relevancy isn't connected in any way to how many people like themAre Jelly and GBC more relevant than Sasakoi because they had more people interested in them?How do you measure audience interest? Is LycoReco more yuri relevant than WataOshi or WataYuri? Do you realize now how this ambiguous nebulous "audience interest" shit is a bad argument for what's yuri relevant?
>>430158150:50? The author definitely likes the pair since she makes bonus art of it and retweets a lot of shipping fanart.
>>4301606
>>4301605The franchises? Definitely, you had an enourmous amount of artwork and doujin, whether the actual series had content you could categorize as yuri is another discussion. Now if the discussion is if they were relevant to the core yuri base, probably not.
>>4301576>I honestly don't understand why you act like rules like this exist at allBecause it's the most logical approach to analize fiction.>but it will always be a commercial for you to buy a game where the girls get fucked and there is no way to dissociate from itThat's wrong, the anime is its own thing and did almost everything to be its own thing with the girls rejecting and humillating the representation of the self insert and not engaging in any type of romance with the other named guys.>same way Sin Nanatsu no Taizai will always have official art of the girls with semen on them (and in one of them the girl is clearly getting fucked too)That don't have anything to do with the anime because, again, the anime is its own thing. What the dumbasses in the marketing team did is irrelevant to what we got from the anime itself. The conclusion is that both of them are yuri, like it or not.>>4301577Blue Reflection Ray don't have any reference to the gacha, a dead gacha, so that's enough for me. The problem with the Nasuverse and Raildex is that we know that there's no way that we will get any real yuri from them, Nasu destroyed the chances to get something from Extra and I wouldn't be surprised if Shirai Kuroko ends dead, as a cuck joke or as a antiyuri joke.
>>4301598>>4301605>>4301611I think part of the argument of that post is that a series (whatever the format) doesn't become less yuri or not yuri at all as time goes on, that logic only applies to things that were never yuri in the first place and you just have a bunch of people pretending they're yuri and when they're officially shown otherwise, they run away like cowards (Gridman anyone?)
>>4301508
>>4301576>>people can judge whatever they want the way they see fit and they do it all the timeYes, but it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong in the way you judge something, it doesn't take away the right to judge, but that doesn't mean you are right.>>Whenever you talk about those series this will always come up as it's part of itno, it doesn't. everything is part of an overall franchise, does Sonic 06 make the entire series garbage? the same applies to dispositive titles in any genre or series, Halloween, Power Rangers, Metroid and many more, that there is a part that does something stupid, it does not affect the other entries in a series, especially if they are not directly connected, adaptations occur in different continuities than the original for example.
>>4301626Sauce?
>>4301633It's from Reverse:1999https://x.com/yuri100157/status/1733802795126636706/photo/1
Is this yuri?https://mangadex.org/title/b6f8c7b9-eeae-4698-a0e7-05474f56b644/douyara-watashi-no-karada-wa-kanzen-muteki-no-you-desu-ne
>>4301598What makes you think they did?
if yuri is so goodwhere is yuri 2?
>>4301648It's gonna be so powerful, that they are skipping yuri 2 and going straight to yuri 3. It's just taking some time to develop.
>>4301617>That's wrong, the anime is its own thing and did almost everything to be its own thing with the girls rejecting and humillating the representation of the self insert and not engaging in any type of romance with the other named guys.Is the game it's own story? Yes. Does it matter? No. The people playing the eroge are not worried about the contiunity with the anime and neither how the self inserter relationship with the girls was, the anime was just to showcase the girls.>That don't have anything to do with the anime because, again, the anime is its own thing. What the dumbasses in the marketing team did is irrelevant to what we got from the anime itself. The conclusion is that both of them are yuri, like it or not.I am not arguing if they are yuri or not, I am arguing they are the bottom of the barrel, it's for people who will eat shit if it's sold as yuri, who will look at the same girls who were portrayed to be in romantic or intimate relationships covered in semen and cope it doesn't matter.>>4301624No? If it was the case I would have worded like this, the argument is very simple, we have standards now, we can call shit properties that are just using yuri as a stepping stone.
>>4301657Have you considered taking your head out of your ass for just one day?
>>4301628Anon, I will just answer this way, if SEGA starts doing official artwork of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles covered in Robotnick's semen, most people are going to be furious and won't buy the games anymore.
>>4301657>The people playing the eroge are not worried about the contiunity with the anime and neither how the self inserter relationship with the girls wasAnd that's because they most likely didn't watch nor care about the anime, just like the people that watched the anime didn't care about the games after knowing they were just another boring het eroge.>the anime was just to showcase the girls.For the execs, at first, the final product show us that wasn't the case for the staff as a whole.>they are the bottom of the barrel, it's for people who will eat shit if it's sold as yuri, who will look at the same girls who were portrayed to be in romantic or intimate relationships covered in semen and cope it doesn't matter.Compared to other anime the shows are decent at worst. KM is a good dumb ecchi comedy and Sin is the best show we have with yuri and christian mythology and it even has the same, or even less, amount of phalic representations than Vtuber Legend.
>>4301657“We have standards” Who’s “we”, retard? And why should anyone care about your retarded standards? You’re alone here. At best, only 3 or 4 retards agree with you
>>4301665>And that's because they most likely didn't watch nor care about the anime, just like the people that watched the anime didn't care about the games after knowing they were just another boring het eroge.Considering they did more seasons of the anime and more games I am going to guess this isn't the case, though ultimately irrelevant whether they did or not.>For the execs, at first, the final product show us that wasn't the case for the staff as a whole.Doesn't matter, you were just ignorant about what the point really was.>Compared to other anime the shows are decent at worst. KM is a good dumb ecchi comedy and Sin is the best show we have with yuri and christian mythology and it even has the same, or even less, amount of phalic representations than Vtuber Legend.Oh, there are worst franchises be it anime, manga, light novels or VNs with yuri content, in this sense I agree with you.
>>4301660Have you thought of stopping being a sheep? Have you thought of having your own opinions inatead of letting “people” decide for you?
>>4301660>nee-san doesn't know the Sonic fanbase
>>4301670The “point” is some retarded attempt to go “my tastes are objectively superior”. You throwing a tantrum because people like stuff you hate
>>4301669First you can easily see what is being sold in the industry to see what the standards are, your pathetic eroge adaptations died with the time and every time someone tried again it was a flop. Second 3 or 4 retards is at least half of the board.
>>4301669>3 or 4Nah even two is a stretch.
>>4301671I don't need people to decide for me that any fucking series that portray the characters covered in semen is trash, but sure is nice to know it's common sense.>>4301672They are going to be angry because it's not Shadow's cum.>>4301672Yes anon, I have no issues in declaring my tastes are better than yours if the scraps you like to watch are nothing but fanservice commercials with yurish content to sell other products where the girls get dicked.
>>4301660what the fuck is this comparison lmaoo
>>4301581Agathe is definitely in love with Coco, and the author is drawing more art of them than before, and also gayer. So there's at last a chance.
>>4301670Have you ever thought that no organization is a hivemind? The staff of the anime made a yuri anime, yuri even by today standards. Yes we know that the shows don't exist in a vacuum but that's irrelevant when the games are dead and the only thing remaining it's the anime.>>4301669That anon is right in this case. Spin-offs of het franchises worked in the past because there was no Mahoako, Murcielago, MagiRevo, Oneesama and Giant, Watanare, etc. Today it's easier to pick a popular yuri manga/LN/WN and make a adaptation than to try to make a story about the "lesbian" haremmete of a hetshit franchise.
>>4301678>series that portray the characters covered in semen is trashThat didn't happen in the anime. If you care so much about it just pirate the show, it's not that hard.
>>4301683The staff did the work they were paid for very well knowing what the point was, they are professionals, they were not worried if what they were doing was yuri or not.
>>4301684>just pirate the show, it's not that hard.Ah so you in fact agree it's trash.
>>4301674Morw sames = betterThis retardesd argument means subtext is better tnan maintext. Kill yourself
>>4301678Fuck off and stop crying, you baby
>>4301689Subtext isn't selling to the core yuri audience either, there is a reason why Kirara turned the way it did.
>>4301691I am not the one upset the thing I like got called trash.
>>4301683His “point” is “stop liking this. I am better, agree wuth me reeeeeeee”. A baby throwing a temper tantrum He has 0 point. Just because we have those stories now, it doesn’t mean people have to stop liking these shows he hates for autistic reasons.
>>4301685They went the extra mile to mock hetshit, in KM, or avoided it the most that they were allowed to, in the case of Sin. You have some very weird ideas about what being "professional" means.>>4301688Well the Sin company still makes money from the anime but the KM games are so dead that who knows who make money from the show right now.
>>4301688 You’re an obnoxious retard
>>4301689>>4301692Not only this, but the fact is that they are not making any more eroge adaptations or even any "yuri" spin off anymore and the reason for this is very obvious, they can't compete with actual yuri works, even the ecchi audience has stuff like Mahoako now, which is a legit ecchi yuri anime.
>>4301692This “core yuri audience” shit is a retarded argument. Just accept your argument is retarded instead of trying to hide beyond “this group of of people I made up in my head agree with me, so I’m right”
>>4301694You’ve been arguing for like 24 hours because the thing you hate got called good and people refuse ro change their mindsKill yourself, you pathetic baby
>>4301696>They went the extra mile to mock hetshit,Their target audience does not care, they only want to see the girls fucked, it's not rocket science.>You have some very weird ideas about what being "professional" means.It means doing the work you were hired for and you can be pretty sure everything you are talking about was approved.>Well the Sin company still makes money from the anime but the KM games are so dead that who knows who make money from the show right now.I would imagine both of them are still avaliable digitally, not sure why it matters though.>>4301697I'm sorry your feelings were hurt, maybe you should try having better standards.
>>4301699Here is a picture of what the imaginary people I made in my head are buying
>>4301703>Their target audience does not careAnd why we will care about guys that most likely died alone in their cheap apartment complexes? The anime is yuri, there's no real hetshit in the shows and >not sure why it matters thoughYou don't need to spend money to support a het franchise if you don't want to thanks to piracy.>It means doing the work you were hired for and you can be pretty sure everything you are talking about was approved.It's a fact that they made a yuri anime, if they conviced the execs to approve it better for us. In today world, sadly for some people, being a pro means not only doing what they tell you to do but also to go the extra mile and do it on a better and more innovative way.
>>4301698what are you talking about? that's not something from the distant past, something like AoKana is from 2016, and even now there are gacha adaptations added with worse audience than any eroge like Azur Lane, which had no problem being yuri especially considering that "fans" found really stupid excuses to complain about the anime, yuri spin-off is still a thing.what you want to believe does not apply to reality.
>>4301708NTA>2016That was 8 years ago.>Azur LaneThat's a complex situation. How close was the anime to the game? There's anything really questionable in the gacha, I've seen some, britsh, lesbians liking the game so maybe it's not that hard on the het.
>>4301707Again, I am not arguing if it's yuri or not, I am saying it's a shit product and the reason this type of product stopped existing is because the people who would buy yuri have better content to support which isn't just using the yuri as stepping stone to sell hetshit.>You don't need to spend money to support a het franchise if you don't want to thanks to piracy.Still not sure why this matters.>It's a fact that they made a yuri anime, if they conviced the execs to approve it better for us. In today world, sadly for some people, being a pro means not only doing what they tell you to do but also to go the extra mile and do it on a better and more innovative way.I doubt this wasn't what they were asked to do, like I said ultimately it doesn't matter for their intended audience.
>>4301712Frist imagine you're a very selfish yuri fan and you have two ecchi yuri anime out there. The first one it's part of a dead franchise so the motivations of the people that made it are meaningless, the other it's from a franchise that is still alive but you can pirate the show if you want to, yes it has some dumb marketing pics but those scenes aren't in the anime so you don't need to worry about that. Would you watch them if you like soft ecchi comedies or stuff like Mahoako? Yes/no/why?
>>4301703>Their target audience does not care, they only want to see the girls fucked, it's not rocket science.Those are the first people to complain stupidly, do you really think there weren't idiots who wanted the male MC to appear in the Koihime Musou anime?>>I would imagine both of them are still avaliable digitally, not sure why it matters though.Apparently the KM Anime is more known or relevant than the game, the fact that the game people made a Sengoku version and probably nobody here knows it exists and it never had an adaptation (2013), just shows that the original VN is not that popular either (but they keep trying)>I'm sorry your feelings were hurt, maybe you should try having better standards.the discussion was never about standards (only in your head), the discussion is that no matter what you want to believe, KM (anime) and SIN (anime) are yuri, the same applies to various spin-off series derived from a Het franchise.
>>4301708The industry is vastly different from 2016, even if Azur Lane audience is trash, it's not a harem gatcha.>>4301716Yes anon, I understand what piracy is.>>4301717>Those are the first people to complain stupidly, do you really think there weren't idiots who wanted the male MC to appear in the Koihime Musou anime?I'm sure there were and to be clear to you, I am not even arguing removing him was the best decision, I am just saying it's very easy to understand from where the decision to make a yurish anime come from, it's the same reason why every romcom/harem merch only sells the girls and not the guy.>Apparently the KM Anime is more known or relevant than the game, the fact that the game people made a Sengoku version and probably nobody here knows it exists and it never had an adaptation (2013), just shows that the original VN is not that popular either (but they keep trying)It's still a VN, very few were actually popular and somehow turned into big franchises.>the discussion was never about standards (only in your head), the discussion is that no matter what you want to believe, KM (anime) and SIN (anime) are yuri, the same applies to various spin-off series derived from a Het franchise.I was always talking about standards.
>>4301704tropical fish is yuri?!
>>4301722Oh wow anon, you found a single one, here another pic for you to find wally.
>>4301723i cant even find yagakimi
>>4301724It's usually placed next to Adachi to Shimamura
>>4301665>Sin is the best show we have with yuri and christian mythologyYou mean besides Marimite?
>>4301729>>You mean besides Marimite?It's set in a catholic school, religion really isn't that relevant beyond a few aspects, SIN does a better job with Christian mythology than you'd expect from something made by Hobby Japan (especially compared to something like Index).
>>4301717The Sin game is gayer than the anime.>>4301721>I was always talking about standards.And those haven't changed. If these entries completely ignore the het parts of the franchise, are entirely separated from it, and are yuri, they are yuri. You don't have to play the Koihime Musou game to watch the anime. You don't have to watch the shotashit parts of Queen's Blade to understand what happens in the previous entries.>>4301730I don't know. One of the girls (the Stacy, no less!) got Yaya'd by the Virgin Mary. I'd say religion is a very serious thing over there.
>>4301721> it's not a harem gatcha.It is technically under the logic that the playable character is male (even where there is a female option, they pretend there is no female option) and all girls are (literally) property of the protagonist (you) this basically applies to any Gacha that doesn't prove otherwise and even that isn't enough.>> it's the same reason why every romcom/harem merch only sells the girls and not the guy.The comparison makes no sense, especially when in the case of a romcom, it is made for that audience and the merchandise you are talking about is still designed for that audience as well, it is completely different from having an adaptation that completely changes the target audience.>>It's still a VN, very few were actually popular and somehow turned into big franchises.KM was popular enough to earn an adaptation, that it took a different approach (in its entirety) to the VNs is something different, that the Songoku version didn't achieve the same, despite already having recognition from its fandom, is what I find funny.>>I was always talking about standards.what standards, complaining about something you clearly don't know?
>>4301731>The Sin game is gayer than the anime.Yes, but the silly complaint is to deny that anime is yuri because of BD covers, the ironic thing is that if it is the opposite case and the covers are yuri (even a little) they would be completely ignored in any discussion.>You don't have to watch the shotashit parts of Queen's Blade to understand what happens in the previous entries.That one also works similarly to Koihime Musou Anime and VN, it's a completely different continuity to the first series and so unpopular that HB actually tries to push Unlimited as if it were the first series.
>>4301728I know but yagakimi is easy to spot with the gray spines.
>>4301735>HB actually tries to push Unlimited as if it were the first series.Killing the franchise in the process. They could announce a Rebellion sequel right now and nobody would notice.
>>4301732Anon those adaptations are not changing the target audience, they are just changing the approach, which may or not work out, (you) and others were never meant to be their target audience.KM much like other VNs of the time were licenses sold far cheaper than picking a manga adaptation, it's how a lot of those obscure VNs got anime adaptations.
The fuck is going on with all these retards defending het promo art?
>>4301740Your fake mustache is swhowing.
>>4301740Your classic "just turn a blind eye to it and it's just like every other series out there", as always it's anons who treat yuri as a fetish and can't accept other people actually respect yuri to not bother with garbage.
>>4301738KM's target base are Latam yurifags right now because the original target market don't give a shit about it, the owner of the copyright is more likely another company and modern ecchifags don't care about it. Like that another anon said the characteristics of the anime didn't change and whatever negative external influence the show had, now dissapeared.
>>4301741Verdammt! Now everyone vill know I'm ze Führer
We've heard a lot about Hezbollah lately, but how is Lezbollah doing?
>>4301744Lol no, it will always be intrinsic of what it is, again there is a reason this approach to the market died and it's because both yurifags and ecchifags have better shit to put their money in, as much of Mahoako's official content is suggestive, it will never cross certain lines.
>>4301747How is mahoako different.
>>4301749For starters there is eroge or official artwork of the girls gettimg cummer on
>>4301747No, in this case we're talking about KM and even in Sin case it's just a marketing campaign, also Sin has the most romantic depiction of yuri between those two because it isn'r a comedy. There is no original sin (kek) because if we use that logic the first Love Live and Strawberry Panic also will be hetshit because LL had the girls singing about guys and Stopani was originally planned as a het harem.
>>4301751It doesn't matter what it is, it's officially portraying the girls in a non yuri way, Minori Chigusa didn't even do this and still had to learn this lesson the hard way, people will never be okay with stuff like this.LL you can still cope because it's a song and not an actual portrayal and Strawberry Panic was originally planned to have 3 protagonists sending letters to their brother and he would give relationship advice, not a het harem.
>>4301750There's tentacle rape cmon
>>4301752They're old shows now, you can enjoy them because there's no harm doing so. They're not shows that people recommended because it had some little yuri in it like Raligun or other shows that had some imaginary subtext in them, they're also not new shit like Blue Archive and we can't do anything to change them now, and that's part of their charm, KM will never change to appeal to waifufags nor Sin will try to depict those shitty pics inside their show (they tried with Bitoku and failed, there were no demons in Bitoju btw)
>>4301756Not a guy and not a dick and also a female construct, the pig in Watanugi is worse even though he doesn't actually penetrate any of the girls (it's a pig after all).
>>4301757>They're old shows now, you can enjoy them because there's no harm doing soAnd I am not stopping anyone from watching, just calling it garbage.>They're not shows that people recommended because it had some little yuri in it like Raligun or other shows that had some imaginary subtext in them, they're also not new shit like Blue Archive and we can't do anything to change them nowLike I told you before, if you argument is there are worse shows or series, then I agree.>KM will never change to appeal to waifufags nor Sin will try to depict those shitty pics inside their show (they tried with Bitoku and failed, there were no demons in Bitoju btw)And I am not saying there is content like this inside the shows, but they are garbage franchises where the yuri was worth nothing more than fanservice.
>>4301759>>just calling it garbage.>>but they are garbage franchises where the yuri was worth nothing more than fanservice.You already said that you haven't watched any of those anime series, that means that you know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about and your complaints are based on very superficial information, why should we take you seriously?
Apps and extensions like 4chanX and Kuroba have recursive reply hiding features so you can just report the troll posts and hide them and all subsequent replies in just a few clicks.
>>4301757>they tried with Bitoku and failedDidn't the Sin game retcon the crap out of Bitoku and have the angels be as gay as the demons?
>>4301767Dunno this thread was the first place where I heard that it had a game, the game thread is garbage and nobody said anything about it in the gacha thread.
>>4301767If they did that then it shows that these people can learn from their mistakes, too bad that doesn't apply to Queen's Blade Limit Break with Unlimited, because of the dumb format that game has.
>>4301768The problem is that those threads are either too busy complaining about even more nonsense, or just being pretentious egomaniacs who are even less tolerant of any different opinion.
>>4301746Practicing forbidden love with jewdykes.
Been out of /u/ for like 3 months, what did I miss?
>>4301780Upcoming yuri anime here >>4298049
>>4301780That Renakochads won.
>>4301784>>4301788Wait, they'll really make a watanare anime? It's not a joke?
>>4301200There's these two unnamed characters from the Harry Potter knockoff set.>>4301383Add Oviya Pashiri from Kaladesh to that list. In the story she had a late wife.
>>4301795Never was.
So why does this have the girls love tag? Is there anywhere to check raws to see if there’s any yuri?https://mangadex.org/title/3dde78b7-980e-4813-a988-eede747fdbb4/spunk
>>4301812>two girls doing SMBut only males can be Space Marines.
>>4301534Aoi Hana was plenty yuri, it's problem was literally everything else about it, biggest problems being cast bloat and forgetting entirely about the main characters until the final chapter where A-chan realizes after multiple time-skips that that she actually is in love with Fumi and they get back together literally within the last few panels, yes i'm still mad.
What's the most yuri number and why?
>>430191669 because yuri taichi
>>4301916Any irrational.
>>4301918i can't read japanese
>>4301921That's Korean
>Adachi to Shimamura Vol12 summary>Adachi and Shimamura go to the beach>3 fucking what if's scenario's>What if Adachi was Shimamura's teacher>What if Adachi was a novelist>What if Shimamura didn't go to the 2nd-floor gymnasium>Beach chapters starts out like this:>"Sooo, the ocean is pretty big.">"Understood, we'll go next week.">"Next week....">"I can already imagine her ears and tail drooping down, but we have to prepare for the trip. Save up money, get swimsuits. Even I wanna show Adachi my cute side."
>>4301941umi da!
>>4301941>What if Shimamura didn't go to the 2nd-floor gymnasiumGo on.
https://itch.io/jam/yuri-game-jam-2024/entrieswill anyone participate in this jam?
>>4301941>>4301943>What if Shimamura didn't go to the 2nd-floor gymnasium
Is Acro's Trip yuri?
>>4301941>Beach chapters starts out like this:>"Sooo, the ocean is pretty big.">"Understood, we'll go next week."Has Shimamura has become fluent in Adachian?
>What if Shimamura and Adachi each dated Tarumi before getting together
>>4301956no way, I'm just here to consume all the SOVL when it's out
I'm hyped for watanare being animated, I hope it's good
It was alright. Great opening though
>>4301972Is the het SFW equivalent of MahoAko
>>4302002That doesn't sound like Mahoako at all.
>>4302004I’m talking about “magical girl joining the bad guys to help the magical girl get better”
>>4302002>hetAre you sure there's romance between them and the bad guy? He looks old while the girls look like middle schoolers.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/a-story-about-a-married-teacher-who-becomes-obsessed-with-her-female-student/https://www.novelupdates.com/series/love-accumulates-in-the-classroom-after-school/Apparently a team is translating these but when I tried to google the team's name nothing came up. Anyone know where the TL is hosted?
>>4302009Yes>He looks oldDidn't stop them
>>4302010it's just gonna be another shitty mtl anyway, why bother? learn japanese instead.
>>4302013Who is them?
>>4302022The retards that had middle school looking girls falling for an old dude instead of each other.
>>4302013Sounds fake. You're probably a concern troll who thinks any interaction is romantic if it's between a male and a female.
>>4302034And yet, it's what happens.
>>4302020>learn japaneseNo.
>>4301941Author wants to give Marvel a run for its money.
>>4302039Not really.
I mean, you can watch yourself. Just don't come here crying when the obvious shoujo thing goes for the typical het age gap route that you can see in stuff like Rayearth or even Precure (Hugtto. Yes Precure 5)
>>4301941sounds based. better than what Inori is doing with her series at least
ZenKowa volume 3 Melonbooks leaflet teaser is up. Cover of it seems to indicate that Naoi's actual part-time job is being a waitress somewhere.
>>4302073That hat in her hand. OMG, Naoi works at a WacDonald's!
Anything to watch this autumn season?
>>4302085Your mom getting banged by a JK.
>>4302069It's probably the same schizo that constantly spreg about some seasonal het series as yuri, fag had been doing it like every season so far
>>4302094
>>4302085no
>>4302085your weight
>>4302109Shimamura pls.
in 2024?
>>4302133Must be an old manga that's only being translated recently
>>4302135>PUBLICATION: 2023, ONGOING
>>4302133Classics never die.
>>4302138Well, talk about being into old internet memes, then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHIJdJCkvU
>>4302140>oldIt's from 2009, that's only 15 years old.
>>4302234thats like 40 years in internet time, grandma.
>>4302133God I hate translators who do this instead of doing translation notes about cultural refferences
>>4302279I share your pain with localisation like that but in this manga's case it really is talking about Slender Man.
>>4302289>image contains a male
Semi-Friend gets a 5th reprint of volume 1 before volume 2 comes out on the 25th in Japan. There's no way this doesn't get an anime.
>>4302346It's likely the most popular kirara manga of all time at this point in time after launch, though sales potential will never be as good as the most popular title after they got anime.
>>4302359Either that or they catastrophically underprinted the first few runs because they didn't have faith in it.
>>4302379I am pretty sure this wasn't the case because the social media reception to this title was at least 10 times bigger than your usual kirara title and Kirara was promoting the first volume all over the place, if I recall they even had an unusual promotional extra chapter in another one of their own magazines (carat?).
>>4302392Yeah the February issue of Carat had the 6 page extra of them bathing together.
>>4302461The tanned one has a beard, is she a fabled dwelf?
>>4297661I've seen that picture before but only after the recent buzzy tweet noticed the incense burner and Yuka's last letter. Awwwww...
