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Game has been leaked. Discuss.
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>>691981306
More modern Sonic garbage. Yawn. Not worth a torrent even if it didn't have Denuvo.
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leaked as in there's finally a damn rom? pass it rq
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>>691981956
No as in physical copies are out, and the guy in the last had stuff for the Switch version. No Roms.
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where xci
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>>691981956
The faggots have it but not sharing like it's some trannie discord or something.
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>>691981306
post gameplay
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Did Maria kiss Shadows pecker?
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>>691981306
Kino, how is the open zone gameplay
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>>691981306
that's it?...
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share the xci faggots I don't care about leaks I want to play that shit
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>>691982170
From what I saw in the last thread.
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Soundtrack dump when? I've been itching for some new Sonic tunes
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>>691982305
>Literally a straight line with a Forces-styled cutscene in the middle
bros?
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>>691982097
The Faggots are trying to get it to us
All while the Nerd that's been sharing info and videos has no modded switch
God gave the game to the wrong guy
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>>691981306
whats the fps on Switch like?
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>>691982329
please... I need the new version of Sunset Heights from the story trailer injected directly into my veins
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>>691982238
Yes, like healthy siblings do.

>>691982358
>3 minutes in
Doubtful the whole act is like that, it's more likely they needed a funnel to switch levels. Besides we've seen plenty of branching paths in trailers.
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>>691981306
holy fucking cringerino
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>>691982358
>Literally a straight line
So, same every boost game ever?
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Leaker-san please confirm if this is a kiss
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>>691982685
It's not a kiss. She clearly touched her forehead with his.
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>>691982358
I don't like how they are using 60FPS cutsense next to stiff as fuck gameplay man, this shit is so wack.

Imagine Sonic Unleashed gameplay with these cutscenes, it would be the best game on planet Earth. Instead it's like watching a try hard mod for Busby 3D.
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>>691982685
holy shit you cucks are desperate
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>>691982791
Are you the leaker or not
I am not believing it is a forehead until I see it in motion because that looks too much like a kiss to me
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Interspeicestrannie recording his death when his shitty ship gets deconfirmed when?
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>>691981306
>chromatic aberration
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>>691981306
Please just confirm Maria stays fucking dead.
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>>691982305
Man this multiverse shit needs to stop.
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Black Doom isn't supposed to have a "mouth". This looks like a dog's snout
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>>691983025
tonight hopefully
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>>691983138
But anon, it worked for Ratchet Rift Apart so it must work here!
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>>691983127
She gets resurrected at the end, along with Gerald
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>>691983127
She's dead, Jim
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>>691983138
this isn't multiverse shit. Black Doom is a master of illusion to the point that it borders on reality-warping. the distorted Radical Highway sequences are all in Shadow's mind
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>>691983253
Good, the series now has 2 more cute little girls.
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>>691983307
>Black Doom is a master of illusion to the point that it borders on reality-warping.
Infinitexisters...
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>>691983127
She is both dead and alive
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>>691983307
So the Phantom Ruby was when his balls dropped? I know Forces is shit but arc welding shit together just makes a bigger piece of shit.
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Why are brownies pedos?
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>>691983025
>>691983175
>endlessly circlejerk over HMOFA
>screech like little bitches over HFOMA
Why are men so insecure?
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>>691983127
she and Gerald are alive for as long as they are time-displaced. once they go back to their own time-period, their fates are once more sealed
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Alright so how do I pirate the steam version without getting caught and losing my account?
>>691983004
Nigger it's touching foreheads. Fuck off.
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>>691983494
>Coping seethe
You arent the leaker stfu
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>>691983486
So the end of Sonic's Story when he defeats th Time Eater? God I hope so.
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>>691983371
>>691983427
the Phantom Ruby is not necessarily the only in-universe means of reality-warping
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How does Black/Devil doom become Neo form
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Mobian sex
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Leaker-kun could end this argument by just posting the actual cutscene of Shadow and Maria. Nothing to lose
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Why does MMOHF make people seethe so much?
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so does shadow keep his doom powers?
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shadow and maria fucked
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>>691983653
The leaker said no already
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OP is always a faggot
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>>691983127
She's alive in Shadow's heart :)
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WOAH, HOW ARE WE TRAVELLING THROUGH TIME?? THERE'S NO TIME STONES HERE
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>>691982685
Not the leaker but this likely just foreheads because Sega are cowards
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>>691983653
no. he loses them at the end. which makes sense given that there'd be no way to explain his not using them post-Generations without sounding retarded
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>>691983526
They're not canonically in love. Sorry retard.
>>691983470
They're not insecure, they just get sick of your autistic screeching about whether it's canon or not. Men know they're not real, for one, and don't put that much stock into it. You stupid bastard.
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>>691983735
But Sonic never actually used the Time Stones to time travel, he used the sign posts.
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>>691983781
>They're not canonically in love. Sorry retard.
????????????? Iizuka himself said he loves her.
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>>691983653
NOPE, he LOSES THEM, because he's a little BITCH. KEKAROOSKI.
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>>691983701
Archie issue one-hundred and seventy-one bros, we won so fucking hard
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>>691982685 >>691983004
you actually need help

>>691983701
yup, she is
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>>691983735
THIS REMINDS ME OF LITTLE PLANET HOOBA DOOBA I JUST WISH FAGGOT THEVOLE COULD BE HERE TO SEE THIS
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>>691983735
The character who said that line is officially my least favorite character.

Now which worthless waste of a space said that shit?
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>>691983735
You don't even use time stones to time travel in CD, right? You touch those signposts then pull a Back to the Future.
Ian Flynn must die.
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>>691983880
YES THANK YOU NOW HE CAN FUCK OFF
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>>691983809
>Ian can't even get his references right
KEKAROOOOOO
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>>691983880
based furfags btfo
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>>691983880
Successfully gaslit into posting it. Cute Shadria moment!
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>>691983829
>retard cannot comprehend familial love
Do you want to fuck your mom too? Or do you not love her?
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>>691983307
So we're just rehashing Forces again? Because that was literally Infinite's gimmick.
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So what's the final boss : Time Eater?
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>>691983809
Flynn is too busy acting as an official Sonic wiki editor to actually play the games he references.
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>>691983985
Ew who touches their sibling like this? I dont. gross
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>>691983829
>he's this neglected in affection that he can't distinguish romantic and friendly love
Sad.
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>>691984007
Infinite doesn't actually know about Shadow's backstory, there's a difference!
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>>691983880
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK WEEP AND SHIT AND CRY AND SEETHE YOU STUPID FAGGOT, EAT SHIT AND DIE LOOOOOOL>>691983004
>>691982685
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>>691983880
ARCHIE ISSUE ONE-HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-ONE BROS, WE WON SO FUCKING HARD
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>>691984081
I am the younger sister to an older brother. We do NOT act like Shadow and Maria and the thought of doing that is vomit inducing. An actual sibling-like relationship would be Maria and the Commander.
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>>691983880
Model needs to be ripped for porn right away.
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NOOOOOOOO NOT THE REFERENCES! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>691983809
...wait. This is true. So what the fuck do the time stones even do!?
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>>691984057
they're probs just gonna have there relationship be 'pet and owner' type,
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>>691984057
>Retard literally so desperate for his headcanon to be he can't comprehend platonic love
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>>691983809
Ian used them as time machines in the Archie comics, and the idiot must have either forgotten that little detail or is still trying to make Archie canon.

>>691983908
No, the Time Stones are literally just for unlocking the Good End and Super Sonic.
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>>691984150
How much of an Archiefag are you to memorize that quote from a comic dated over a decade ago?
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>>691984229
How is it headcanon if the creator of the characters intended it?
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>>691984007
it's been this way since '05, faggot
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>>691984154
You'll understand when you learn to actually love someone.
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>>691983829
>shot by the Earth Defense Forces who suddenly appeared...?!
EDF! EDF! EDF!
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>>691984209
Give you the good ending. Which is just Little Planet fucking off back into space.
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>>691984150
clap
it happened
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>>691984276
If they intended it why has it never come up?
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>>691984209
The time stones were a part of eggman's plan to take over little planet
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Time stones give you a good future in every level
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>>691984150
>Ian is literally just regurgitating his Archie scripts now
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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>>691984007

no

Black Doom can fuck with Shadow's mind exclusively thanks to his Black Arms DNA. The Phantom Ruby does whatever the fuck the plot wants it to do because Forces was poorly written.
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>>691984347
By controlling time?
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>>691984234
Sonic CD doesn't have a Super Sonic equivalent.
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>>691984256
not much of one, actually. I'm not very fond of the Archie comics, but Shadow's characterization was consistently on-point in them, at least to me, and this singular issue in particular is my favorite out of the comic's entire twenty-four-year run, which is why I recall it so greatly. I revisit it every once in a while simply because it's peak
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>>691984209
Nothing, it's just that Eggman can't actually complete his plan without using them as batteries. Sonic taking the Stones just delays things enough for the planet to leave Earth.
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>>691983880
KEKYPOW AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHIPPERS BTFO
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>>691984332
Probably because unlike western writers JP writers don't think everything needs to be spelled out for people.
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>>691984412
The Stones unlock Super Sonic, at least in the modern ports.
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>>691984291
I don't mean for the game, I mean in lore. Let me see...
Apparently even on the wiki, there isn't much info. They supposedly allow you to control time, but if that was the case, why do they use the signposts?
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>>691984364
Nah Ian is just trying to make Archie semi-canon again by making plot points from the pre reboot shit canon.
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>>691984525
No they dont. You need debug for that
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>>691984408
Yes, but the entire point was that sonic doesn't use them to actually move across time in cd
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Are we really gonna pretend its a bad assumption that time stones allow time travel?
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>>691983880
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA

TOTAL FURPEDO DEATH
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>>691984364

Ian does not have that much control over the plot/cutscene direction
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>>691984256
To be fair, this is actually when Ian was a good writer.
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None of you have had a brother or sister and it shows because the way Maria acts around Shadow is more like a pet than anything.
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>>691984585
Yes
Flynn haters are literally delusional
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>>691984636
>ywn be Maria's pet
Why even live
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>>691984585
It's a reference (Non big fucking surprise there >Ian) to how the Time Stones were like Silver's thing in the comics like how Blaze has the Sol Emeralds. It's what he used to travel to Sonic's time.
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Who voices black doom?
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>>691984541
he's not trying to blend the continuities together or make stuff from Archie canon. he's just reusing and refreshing bits and pieces of old stuff for the mainline continuity. this has already been done here and there—the Eggnet existing in the mainline as of IDW and Frontiers and the Commander's name being Abraham Tower, for example
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>>691984705
Or its a reference to how the time stones have time powers and archie just happened to be the ones who capitalized on that first
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>>691984710
dunno who it is, but I know who it's not—it's been confirmed that it isn't Sean Schemmel
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>>691984585
The problem is the sign posts themselves are what's used to travel time in CD. This is definitely true. Not even the TS themselves are brought up past CD. The most relevant thing from CD are Metal and Amy, and not even THEY mention it. Yes, it would be as simple as "reading what it says on the can", but the reference would make more sense if Sonic said "Hey, I didn't see a 'past' signpost, why are we traveling?" or something. Inferring supposed context in order to create a reference is not good referencing.
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>>691984209
Collecting all the time stones can allow you to control the flow of time. That's Eggman's plan in CD, it's why he sets up shop on the Little Planet, which is home to the time stones. When Sonic collects all the time stones, he ensures Eggman's plans for the Little Planet never come to fruition (i.e. he creates a good future.)

But the stones themselves are not necessary for time travel, hence CD's main gameplay gimmick. Also note that you time travel in Mania as well without the usage of times stones.
Flynn fucked up his own reference by not alluding to the Little Planet or CD's signposts instead. Could have been a very easy joke like the "end goal" nod in Frontiers.
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>>691984364
This is literally what IDW is.
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>>691984591
this is true—what Ian is mainly in charge of is dialogue. plot direction, characters used, etc. are all decided by those higher-up in Sonic Team and SEGA
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>>691984525
At least play the games you're going to defend, anon.
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>>691984882
But then you'd be bitching about the cringe of Sonic mentioning previously semi-canon items like monitors/giant rings etc.
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>>691984926
Yeah, and it fucking sucks because of it.
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>>691984636
The scary part then is that these people think a girl treating you like a pet is healthy in a relationship
How sad.
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So did the game actually go and say black doom was behind everything?
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Bros are there any levels we didn’t know about? I was still hoping we would get Black Comet…
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>>691984983
Depends on the execution. I'm obviously not "bitching" about Frontiers making a gag about signposts and goal rings. That bit actually felt like it had some small thought put into it over just throwing out yet another shallow reference.
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>>691984983
Sonic lives and dies by a single ring. Mentioning the gameplay aspect is far less cringy than going "HEH, remember THAT little reference? ;)"
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>>691985117
>Bros are there any levels we didn’t know about?
That's actually the biggest problem of this game, they showed us too much.
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>>691985068
not the leaker, but as far as I know from what the leaker has said and shown, as well as context clues, it seems to be that Black Doom is just using the Eggman/Time Eater shit to his advantage. he got time-displaced and went “yo how can I use this to further traumatize my furry son”
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>>691985117
yeah. The Last Way would have been a bitchin' climactic one-act final level
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>>691983880
Hey mr leaker I heard mephilis voice in a 5 second clip and it sounded horrible. Please tell me roger craig Smith isn’t voicing him? It didn’t even sound like he didn’t even try with the voice.
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>>691984882
But aren't the time stones the reason Little Planet even has signposts that allow time travel?
I thought they were what made the place special.
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>>691984556
Huh, could've swore that was the case. My bad then, guess I got it mixed up.
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>>691985305
How could they make Black Doom such a prominent character in this game and then refuse to give us a Shadow the Hedgehog level? SEGA is dumb as shit sometimes.
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>>691985117
God I wish

At least allegedly radical highway 2 is cool and I can live with that
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>>691985376
yeah but sonic fags cant think with more than a tiny bit of their coom filled brain
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I would like a screenshot of this supposed Time Stone line.
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Dump the damn xci before I piss myself
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>Referencing the Time Stones caused v to meltdown over the lore of CD
You'd love to see it
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>>691985376
It's not mentioned that's the case. Maybe they just wanted to rip off Back to the Future.
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>>691985545
It reminds me of Chaos being in Forces yet there was no Chaos boss.
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>no mega maria
>no eggmans long legged dreg
pass
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>>691985376
That's most likely the implication, however, the fact that the player can never actually bother with the stones and still engage with the time traveling mechanic is what makes the reference comes off as weak.
Sonic himself never uses them to specifically to time travel, so how would he even know (I'm assuming he's the one who says the line).
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I'm gathering that he actually doesn't appear. This is near forces type of baiting
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>>691985631
>referencing badly causes criticism
Yes.
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>>691985798
Why would he not have collected all of the time stones in canon? Every good ending/true final boss involves collecting all of the chaos emeralds if it's not a part of the main story, even though you can get the good ending without the time stones I don't see why CD would be the one exception to Sonic collecting all of the funny colored gems lying around.
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>>691984154
Tell your brother to stop doing shitty TGT tier furry porn and to fix his autism by going outside
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>>691985862
According to last thread, he doesn´t but he gets mentioned. Apparently, Black Doom admits he was the one behind Emerl's meltdown back when he was being researched by Gerald on the ARK.
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Ian derangement syndrome is getting out of hand. You fuckers seethe everytime he does anything.
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OH SHIT!
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>>691985862

G/emerl being acknowledged at all beyond the comics and the occasional wallpaper is a blessing in of itself.
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I cannot fathom giving a fuck about the story in a Sonic game, much less caring enough to be upset about how a Sonic game handles continuity.
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>>691985641
That's precisely what it was. Hell, Sonic wasn't even original in that regard; Earthbound did a similar homage to BTTF with PSI Teleport a few years earlier.
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>>691986138
Trim the fangame name out next time shit for brains.
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>>691986129
It's not like it isn't warranted
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>>691986061
>Unironic IT WAS ME ALL ALONG moment

Boy, that sounds like garbage
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>>691986061
What the fuck, why did they feel the need to insert Black Doom into the Gizoid's history? The fuck?
What's next, Chaos destroying the Echidna race was because of Black Doom too??
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>>691986225
To be fair, it's pretty soulful. But there's no lore explanation for anything even in the manual, so it really just seems like the devs threw the shit together. Maybe the original idea for Sonic was to have different mcguffins each game and that's what led to CD being different, which doesn't sound like a bad idea inherently... you'd just have to make the games around it.
Anyway, all this research has proven that Ian can't even do his autism right.
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>>691986287
Because Ian can't resist forcing connections between every aspect of the franchise. He's also the one that suggested The Ancients be connected to Chao/Chaos.
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>>691986129
I've never liked the guy.
I never liked Archie Sonic in the first place.
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>>691983601
All human on nonhuman makes people seethe if said nonhuman isn’t a blue Star Wars human
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>>691986273
You don't even know the half of it
he also reveals he mind controlled the GUN soldiers to kill Maria
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Can someone tell me which version of the game you are supposed to get if you want everything? Physical comes with the professor’s notebook but the digital deluxe version seems to have exclusive perks.
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>>691986236
It absolutely isn’t. Nobody ever seethed this hard when Pontaff and Graff wrote in references in the original generations.
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>>691986428
SERIOUSLY?! Is there a game screenshot of this?
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>>691986428
I hope you aren’t lying. That is Bleach levels of retardation and I love it.
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>>691986061
What would he even gain from indirectly attacking his business partner before his own plan is even in motion
That's what you get with "DEI" hires I guess
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>>691986021
>Why would he not have collected all of the time stones in canon?
That wasn't my point, I'm saying that Sonic isn't aware of their specific purpose. He can time travel without them using the signposts. As far as he's aware, they're magic rocks that Eggman wants, and that's enough to make sure Eggman can't have them. Even in the Japanese manual states that Sonic knows nothing about the weird time nonsense the Little Planet is capable of.

As pointed out earlier in the thread, it just seems like Flynn got a little too wrapped up in his own previous depictions of how the characters used time stones instead of going off of how time travel is presented in the CD itself.
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>>691986428
This is the first retroactive detail from Ian's bullshit that actually makes me mad.
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>>691986428
the guy who said that was lying
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>>691986428
Emerl poster here
Literally AoT tier shit lmao.
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>>691986287
>What's next, Chaos destroying the Echidna race was because of Black Doom too??
Yep, a future game will reveal that the black arms were at war with the echidna tribe using those ruins they transported to earth over 2000 years ago, and that's why the echidna tribe needed the chaos emeralds so badly. Do you like it?
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>>691986428
Please no...
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>>691983809
>>691983908
>>691983930
>>691984054
>>691984209
>>691984234
>>691984882
>>691985641
>>691986551
>Literally called TIME Stones
>retards debating whether or not they let you TIME travel
Just how mindbroken has Flynn made you people
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>>691986460
>Nobody ever seethed this hard when Pontaff and Graff
Anon I'm gonna have to ask what universe you came from because I'm pretty sure in this people were seething hard over them every day
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>>691986474
It's part of the manga tie-in.
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>>691986606
Kino...
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>>691986658
Where can I read the full thing?
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>>691986428
And Ian wrote the script for this game right?
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>>691986138
WE'RE SO BACK
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>>691986732
/a/ has a thread up about it.
>>>/a/272106141
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>>691986220
It's more so funny to point out how the official Sonic lore autist messed up his own reference since he insists on filling his writing with said references.
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>>691986568
this plot detail actually comes from the The Jet Black Hedgehog: Shadow the Hedgehog manga, written and illustrated by Yuki Imada, and, to be honest, I'm not exactly sure whether or not that manga is even canon to the mainline
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>>691986287
As the saying goes, "Don't trust the Blacks"
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>>691986824
Well if it's canon, whoever introduced it is a retard.
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>>691986584
It's not a lie, but it's in the tie-in manga instead of the game itself, I believe.
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>>691986428
I wish I didn't read this.
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THATS RIGHT, SHADOW, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG
I KILLED MARIA
I KILLED THE ECHIDNAS
I ALSO KILLED THE ANCIENTS YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT
THE FLAMES OF DISASTER? I CAUSED IT
THE PHANTOM RUBY WAS MY CREATION
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>>691986138
ACCELERATE.
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is there a cutscene with Rouge and Maria?
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>>691986657
People thought they were funny at the time. The line about genies and interstellar amusement parks was laughed at.
People only started turning on them once Lost World came out.
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>>691986907
I PLAYED YOU SO HARD I GOT YOU TO KILL ME TOO
I WAS A GOOD GUY ALL THIS TIME, MY DEAD BODY RELEASES A POSITIVE TOXIN THAT GIVES THE GOOD ENDING
>Sonic if it was written by Nomura
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>>691986428
HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

If true
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All I wanted was a Shadow the Hedgehog level. I really thought that was not asking for much.
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>>691986970
yeah, but the dislike of Pontac and Graff in regards to Lost World was less about references (of which there were few) and more about the dogshit plot
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>>691986428
The best part?
This wasn't written by Ian
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IT WAS ME, SHADOW
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>>691986428
I CLAPPED. ALL HAIL IAN, HACKS RISE AGAIN!
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>>691986907
We need like a Puss in Boots I was there all along reveal but it's with Zavok breaking Shadow's sanity.
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>>691986653
>retards debating whether or not they let you TIME travel
No, people are pointing out that Sonic doesn't use the time stones to time travel in CD, so him referencing them in that manner just comes off as lame.
It'd be like if Sonic made a reference to Mecha Sonic going super in S3K, even though he never actually fought that boss. Yeah, you could come up with some handwavey excuse for why he knows about it, but still, it's lame, and the idea could easily be handled better.
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>>691986371
This was a good connection
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>>691986287
Black Doom comments in Chaos Island that he's going to go back in time to conquer the Ancients
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>>691987172
The comics actually did that, though to be fair it was implied Sonic saw the fight since he rescued Knuckles before Sky Sanctuary collasped.
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>>691987257
Proofs???
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>>691987156
Please someone edit Black Doom into Reverse Flash?
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>>691987172
>Literally called TIME Stones
>retards debating whether or not Sonic would know they let you TIME travel
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Flynn is a glorified localizer. He doesn't have nearly as enough influence on the series as people would lead you to believe. Retconning the GUN raid as part of Doom's keikaku would be a Sonic Team brand retarded decision, not an Ian one.
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The rabbit hole goes deeper.

>"Black's doom entire master plan? IT WAS ME WHO TRULY SET IT IN MOTION! I SPECIFICALLY CHASED THE ANCIENTS TO EARTH SO THE MASTER EMERALD COULD ATTRACT THE CHAOS EMERALDS TO IT. BECAUSE I KNEW BLACK DOOM WOULD MAKE HIS WAY THERE. I WAS BEHIND EVERYTHING"
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>>691986970
>People thought they were funny at the time.
Outside the Eggman PA announcements in Colors, not really. But people did appreciate it as a breath of fresh air after stuff like 06.
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>>691987216
Not really.
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Why Black Doom so dick against Shadow?
Like, he was Reverse Flash level of dick against Shadow
And that was before Shadow betrayal
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>>691987216
None of the characters really acknowledge the connections so it ends up feeling superfluous
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>>691987358
>BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY ME BLACK DOOM WHO INFECTED THE END WITH BLACK ARMS DNA, WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS SO DEVOUT ON DESTROYING AND CONQUERING? TO BE ABOVE ALL IS BUILT INTO THE GENETIC CODE OF OUR GLORIOUS RACE
Honestly if they can turn the Black Arms shit from the seeming slop and full on running with it, it could be kino. The franchise could use a new big bad who is responsible for literally EVERYTHING.
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>>691987443
Eggman did, but I can't blame you for not knowing because it's a small bit of monologue hidden behind Big's fishing minigame
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>>691987343
Sonic literally doesn't >>691986551.
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>>691987419
Some people are just bad dads
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Ian connection haters will go silent once the journal mentions anything about a mural.
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>>691987282
>The comics actually did that
Of course they did.
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Americans ruin everything from Japan
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>>691987503
to be fair, the dots can easily be connected if you look at Chaos and an Ancient for longer than a second each
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>Leaker retard posts shit in horrible res, doesnt dump the xci, spergs out over shippers and then fucks off
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>>691987537
What form of cope is this?
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>>691982305
basic running animation looks atrocious. All they had to do after SA2 was copy their own homework and they fail to every single time. Who still buys this shit,
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>>691987608
That's all leakers anon
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>>691987610
What form of cope is this?
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Black Doom will reincarnate within Shadow
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>>691987490
Chaos Emeralds themselves? Black Doom made those too.
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This thread reminded me that the very last published issue of Archie Sonic was a CD adaptation.
I wonder if Ian will ever make this bit of lore canon, namely that CD takes place directly after Generations from the Classic cast's perspective.
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>>691987556
Japanese ruin everything from Japan
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>>691981306
Any footage on the hub world?
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>>691987419
Black Doom is hellbent on getting Shadow on his/the Black Arms' side, but at the same time, he doesn't tolerate Shadow's rebellion, so he is both trying to gain control of him and torment and punish him for his defiance
TL;DR: abusive father without the usual alcohol
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>>691987693
The timeline is being refined and no, CD is not after Gens lil retardbro. Mania is
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This one?
Its actiually describe Shadow fighting against Black Doom
Its just the drawing just suck
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>>691987419
>want cool son that can use chaos emeralds
>also want him to be 100% onboard with his Earth farm plan so make it so your son hates humanity
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>>691987693
>namely that CD takes place directly after Generations from the Classic cast's perspective.
That makes zero sense, CD takes place before Sonic 2. Classic Tails was part of Generations as well and recognized who Sonic was, so that shouldn't be possible.
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>>691981306
So, do we know how much dialogue was changed from the original?
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>>691987683
The Echidnas? Deviant Black Arms. Why do you think they have similar quill shapes?
Chaos? The purified blood of Black Arms.
Neo Metal? Black Doom helped him take over the Eggman Empire and told him how to use the Emeralds for Overlord.
Solaris? Made by Black Doom and handed to humans as an experiment.
Time Eater? Black Arms that grew too powerful. It's even black. See?
ALL HAIL BLACK DOOM, KUSOKINO RISES AGAIN
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Black Doom did it for the lulz
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no xci?
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>teaser for new game (ian is writing)
>knuckles exploring angel island
>finds ancient cave filled with tomes he's never seen
>"What the hell? they seem to be chronicles of a dark brotherhood?"
>teaser ends with armor clad people behind him

Your genuine reaction?
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>>691987994
Free money
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>>691987869
I thought CD was after S3K
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>>691987353
>Flynn is a glorified localizer.
It depends. Yeah, a lot of the base story elements are created by Sonic Team, but for something like Frontiers, the English dialogue was written first and localized in Japan later, and most of that game's narrative content is handled through dialogue. Not to mention his influence on suggesting certain things to Sonic Team like connecting the Ancients to Chaos.

But you're also right that the whole "actually, it was aliens" angle is definitely something Sonic Team came up with, because they seem to love the idea of including aliens in everything Sonic-related. Hell, when the "two worlds" thing was still relevant, that just meant most of the Sonic cast were literal aliens.
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>>691987994
ah yes pendering 2.0
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>>691987994
The Chronicles stuff is cool
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>>691986653
Tell me what the Chaos Rings do, anon
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>>691987994
Sega gets sued again and Ian is booted as a writer.
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>>691987537
The mural thing would just be Ian ripping off 2000s fanon.
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>>691988059
>actually, it was aliens
I think thats a Japanese thing/Shonen Thing, Dragon Ball did it, Naruto did it
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>>691988109
Apparently turn Metal into a cool monster thing
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>>691988109
COOOOL!
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Maria's aids was actually Black Doom's doing. He fucked it into her, basically alien clap
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>>691987683
>Chaos Emeralds themselves? Black Doom made those too.
Nah, the Ancients already beat him it the punch. But Black Doom *did* create the Ancients, so it all works out.
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>>691988283
>BLACK BVLL I SUMMON YOU
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>>691988059
>the whole "actually, it was aliens" angle is definitely something Sonic Team came up with, because they seem to love the idea of including aliens in everything Sonic-related
I'm STILL mad
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>>691988224
Metal didnt use those he used Dark Rings
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Is rouge in this and what does she do
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>>691988334
My dumb ass headcanon is that Aliens is vague enough to mean they came from Sky Babylon in Sonic Rush Adventure.
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>>691987693
Officially, CD takes place after 1. That was something Sonic Team decided on with Origins.
From what I remember, Flynn actually pitched for CD to take place after S3K (with Eggman wanting the time stones to reverse his mistakes from the previous three games), but Sonic Team said "nah".
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>>691988334
What the fuck they were aliens?
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>>691988463
Flirts with Omega
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>>691988494
The babylonians? Literally Black Doom's pet birds that he taught to do cool tricks because he thought it was funny.
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>>691982305
modern 3d sonic is so ass
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>>691988463

anal

also chastises Shadow for getting his ass beat by Sonic
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>>691988486
That's bizarre.
So Sonic knows Amy for longer than he knows Tails and Knuckles and Metal Sonic predates all those other clunkier Sonic robots.
Ian was right, it does make more sense for CD to take place after the Death Egg saga.
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>>691988334
QRD?
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Wait a fucking minute.....
>Black Arms are aliens
>Babylonians are aliens
>Ancients and The End are aliens
>Wisps are aliens
>Dodon Pa is an alien
>In the movies, the Sonic characters are aliens
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>>691988582
modern Masturbation is so ass
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>>691988713
If everyone is alien, no one is.
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>>691988713
EVERYONE'S AN ALIEN
MOBIUSONICLAND HAS THE UNIVERSE'S BEST OPEN BOARDERS POLICY
CAN'T WAIT FOR SONIC TO BE A DESCENDENT OF THE WHITE ARMS ALL ALONG BECAUSE "THEEEEEMING", GOTTA HAVE "THEEEEEMING", FUCKING STUPID JAPS
I FUCKING HATE SEGA
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>691988713
Japan is obsessed with gayliens for some reason
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In all seriousness why does sonic team feel the need to needlessy complicate things
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>>691988659
Sonic races Metal but "fights" every other robot incarnation so I assumed the Metal Line and Mecha Line are different, Metal focusing more on speed and Mecha on strength. It's not necessarily an upgrade.
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>>691982305
What i liked about Sonic Generations is how nothing takes you out of the gameplay. It's constant speed and or platforming and I love it. Seaside Hill modern is one of the best stages ever made.

Rail Canyon by contrast, looks automated and has bullshit that takes you out of the gameplay. I'm not impressed so far, especially with a $50 price tag
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>>691988334
nah that shit was raw actually
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>>691982358
SHUT UP CONSUME SONICSLOP BE HAPPY
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>>691988880
I mean, how is it needlessly complicated?
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>>691988486
Ian is such a fucking idiot, good lord.

>>691988659
No it doesn't, Amy was just a fangirl during CD that Sonic ignores. She doesn't become his actual friend until around the events of Superstar, and outside of that she doesn't even meet him again until SA1.
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predict what thing in the lore next will be aliens fault
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>>691983653
No Cuckdow only knows how to LOSE
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>>691988659
>Metal Sonic predates all those other clunkier Sonic robots
I think the thought process behind this is that Metal is made specifically to match Sonic's speed, while the mecha variants were designed to match Sonic in combat. Then Eggman basically mushed both iterations of the "robot Sonic" concept together with the modern Metal Sonic.

But yeah, I do think CD works better as a follow-up to 3K in retrospect. Eggman goes after a different, more specialized set of macguffins after failing to get the chaos emeralds three separate times, and you get to bookend the classic era with two Sonic-only adventures. One of the few Flynn concepts I don't have much issue with.
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>>691989018
I'm just happy I can enjoy all this while the rest of you complain about Ian writing and "lackluster" gameplay
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>>691983735
Woah I better find those UFOs and Metal Sonic projectors!
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>>691988682
In Sonicland, the Babylonians were actually aliens. So if you're a bird who is a descendant of the Babylonians, that means you're a descendant of aliens too (i.e. Jet).
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>>691988929
>Rail Canyon by contrast, looks automated and has bullshit that takes you out of the gameplay. I'm not impressed so far, especially with a $50 price tag
But anon, that's KINO. Only KINO should be what video games are for, who cares about gameplay!
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>>691989023
>you know this thing nobody is asking questions about? Let's provide people with an answer anyway
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>>691985545
Sega is lazy as shit and the Ark was in Shadow the Hedgehog so they figured it was fine. It was easier for them to recycle Forces and Frontiers levels than make new ones. They did the same thing with the original by reusing Unleashed and Colors stages
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>>691989063
Realistically, Sky Sanctuary will probably be revealed to have been created by aliens.
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>>691988929
Not to mention the only QTE in the whole game that compares to this was in Green Hill. Every level shown so far has some QTE shit that's just there for cheap spectacle. It's like they learned NOTHING from Forces outside of padding the levels out.
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>>691989172
>I'm just happy i eat garbage!
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>>691989063
Special stages, probably cyberspace simulations from the ancients
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>>691986428
It's so retarded that I believe it. Ian trying to make everything connected resulting in the story of SA2 getting shat on. Before Sonic 3 movie no less. Bravo.
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Thinking about that silver guy...

>small
>greyish
>psychic


You know what else is small, greyish, and psychic? The fucking greys. Silver is part grey alien confirmed.
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Remember when Ian wrote an answer in Frontiers explaining how Big the Cat wasn't actually in Cyberspace? Like who the fuck genuinely asked for an explanation for that?
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>>691988713
Nothing to see here, chud.
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>>691989496
Ian did. He's an autist who doesn't understand running gags.
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>>691989358
I mean, lots of people still shitting on
>When did Gerald have time to reprogramming Shadow when they got captured
>Where did Gerald get the camera during his execution
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>>691987419
Shadow is his disobedient son. He tried emotionally manipulation, but that didn't work so now he's pulling out the old fashioned belt
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>>691989430
Seeing how that portal was in there, it's safe to say the ancients made it.
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>>691989449
mcdonalds over caviar
joy fills my life while coom fills your hand
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>>691988334
I didn't care about the plots of these games, but even I thought the alien angle was dumb as hell. You could tell the writers were struggling with a plot twist.
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>>691989572
SA2's plot already has a bunch of holes (e.g. blowing a chunk out of the moon apparently has no negative effect on the planet it orbits), sometimes it's just best to leave the gaps unacknowledged.
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>>691989673
>struggling
You're retarded. The game is called Shooting Star Story. It is intricately made to explain how, on Sonic's earth, people began the custom of wishing on a star.
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>>691989172
You can enjoy drinking garbage water all you want, it's still garbage water.
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>>691989682
Cartoon physics isnt a plot hole retard. None of you deserve to be taken seriously about media critique
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>>691989682
The ground had been laid by StH game, so might as well go full force
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>>691989519
>Sammy is an alien
BROS??!?!
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>>691989572
>>When did Gerald have time to reprogramming Shadow when they got captured
He literally writes down in his diary that he was able to complete Shadow after being imprisoned, meaning GUN probably allowed him to complete the project under their strict supervision

>>Where did Gerald get the camera during his execution
GUN recorded it. Why is this even a question?
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>>691989796
SA 2 was not in a cartoon world though. The world is full of real human people, Sonic & friends are just cartoon characters interacting in reality.
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>>691989747
They could've told that story without ruining the Rogues' already perfect origins.
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Deadly Six and their home will be revealed to be alien soon enough. That is if anyone even cares to do anything with them.
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>>691989796
That's not cartoon physics, it's just dumb. Kind of like Eggman using a timed bomb on Prison Island for no reason other than the plot needing some kind of forced tension.
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>>691989896
It doesnt ruin anything.
>>691989886
Yeah the reality where you can teleport with machines or magic gems
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>>691989886
>SA 2 was not in a cartoon world though.
retard
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>Shadman
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>>691989904
Depending on how strictly you define the term, they already are aliens.
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>>691989904
They barely have any background in the first place, so that wouldn't shock me.
Although the idea of replacing all sense of mystical whimsy in Sonic's universe with needless sci-fi explanations is pretty lame.
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>>691989989
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>>691989970
>Yeah the reality where you can teleport with machines or magic gems
That's just fantasy/science fiction. The world shown in SA2 is meant to reflect our own, not be a cartoon.
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>>691988659
>mecha sonic needs to be scrapped twice and goes super
>metal sonic jobs to a wall
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>>691989941
Play the game you're criticizing
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When will the eggheads get the xci dumped?
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>>691990118
That doesn't explain why he needlessly uses a timed bomb instead of a remote one that could be activated when everyone is safely off the island.
The explanation is simply that the writer wanted to introduce a "countdown" sequence to that part of the story.
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>>691981306
Does I Am play?
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The movies doing aliens is the only time it's not super cringe like how the games do it.
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>>691990239
This is a meme analysis and not a real criticism.
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>>691981306
Where is the rom?
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>>691989445
Exactly. I don't have much confidence in the level design either if we're going off the past couple of games. The quality from Sonic to Shadow's stages is going to be jarring.
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>>691989886
Cartoon characters interacting with real objects still ends up with cartoon physics.
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>>691990286
>can't think of an argument
>uh that's just a meme
Come on, man.
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>>691990347
Do you criticize timed bombs in all pieces of media for not being remote bombs?
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>>691983880
The Doc gets the girl in the end, cuckhog.
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>>691989572
>Where did Gerald get the camera during his execution
Gun was recording his last words.
The better question is why did no one do anything about the ark after he laid out his manifesto about using it to destroy the world.
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>>691990416
It depends on how they're used from a narrative standpoint. In SA2's case there's no reason for the 300 iq scientist to not use a remote detonation.
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>>691989796
Cartoon physics doesn't make sense in a world where irl looking humans can get shot and die realistically.
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>>691990475
Black Doom made them forget or something
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>>691988880
If anything this makes things less complicated.
No little Timmy, there’s no need to question your government. Anything bad they do is the fault of purely evil aliens.
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>>691990549
Black Doom told GUN that he made Gerald say that as a joke and not to take it too seriously.
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>>691990592
They should give Doom a Russian accent in the 4th movie
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>chaos emeralds
Black doom
>Chaos emeralds
Black doom
>The end
Black doom
>springs
Black doom
>rings
Black doom
>maria
Black doom
>the president
Black doom
>mephiles
Black doom
>cream the rabbit
Black doom
Any questions?
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>>691989989
>Mountain carvings aren't realistic now
double nigger retard.
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>>691990592
God forbid there's some moral ambiguity in my children's cartoon game. I don't even care if Station Square does come back, as long as thy still state the place got Hurricane Katrina'd.
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>>691990676
Silver the Hedgehog?
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>>691983735
>this one post spawned so much arguing
>nobody even confirmed if this is a real line in the game
Sasuga /v/
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>>691990676
But who was behind black doom?
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>>691990731
Black doom
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>>691990715
Did Black Doom do this...?
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>>691990723
>if my Sonic game doesn't have le deep and mature themes I'm gonna make a 4 hour video essay complaining on the tube
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>>691990757
Big Black Doom
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>>691990757
Pender
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>>691990737
>nobody even confirmed if this is a real line in the game
The fact that people immediately believe it's real says enough about Flynn's writing.
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>>691990763
Woah, this is deep lore
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>>691990757
Jew Doom
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>>691990757
Solaris
Except not really because Solaris got wiped from existence
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>>691990676
Did Black Doom tell Dr Robotnik to use animals as a power source, and then to change his name?
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Can we get Penders writing the games next
at least he had some originality with good plots
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>>691990757
Yakub Doom
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>>691990757
Blackest doom
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>>691990906
>scum, you're going down!
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>>691990823
>deranged /v/ anons
>people
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Why didn't Black Doom just ask Shadow to join him by saying pretty please? Is he stupid?
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>>691990892
And yet Sonic 06 events are still constantly referenced
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>>691990897
Black Doom told Sonic to start calling Robotnik "Eggman" and then to forget they ever met.
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>>691987873
YOU SEE IT WAS ME SONIC WHO GAVE YOU YOUR SPEED
I GAVE TAILS FLIGHT
I LET KNUCKLES GLIDE
I GAVE AMY HER COMICAL SUPERSTRENGTH AND OBSESSION WITH YOU
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>>691990757
The Black Baron (stop starin')
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>>691990224
they better have animated this one also
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>>691991090
>I GAVE AMY HER THREE ARCHES OF HAIR
>I MADE YOUR WORLD HOT CHICK HEAVEN
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>>691990823
The one who was leaking the game brought it up, but no screenshots
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>>691991063
Imagine one of the alternate paths for Shadow the Hedgehog was Doom telling Shadow immediately that he's his father and that he wants to get to know him better while doing family activities with his 1000s of cousins
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>>691990773
>Black Doom defiled a sacred Indian mountain to pay tribute to some dead white guys

He can't keep getting away with this
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Placing ALL BETS on >>691986428 just getting that from the Manga and assuming its in the game
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Sega will reveal in the next game how Black Doom meticulously placed every single ring you pick up.
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>>691991090
I MADE TAILS INTO A PUSSY
I CREATED LIGHT AND DARK GAIA
ZAVOK IS MY REINCARNATION
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I'm now invulnerable in the Sonic world.
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>>691991335
Nigger Doom did this
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>game has lieaked
>OP means the switch version
so worst version has leaked?
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>>691991320
>ZAVOK IS MY REINCARNATION
SHUT UP
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>>691991269
That's why Shadow really hates black (creatures)
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>>691991421
>>691991320
I would unironically clap if that happened, I'd be READY for a new age of cringekino.
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>>691991404
welcome to the only copy of the game that ever gets leaked
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Shadow. Do you remember that time when you went to Soleanna and fought against a shadowy creature that took your form? (You probably do now because White Space lmao)
That was ME, Shadow! I made the Duke on Soleanna slightly hornier than usual one Friday night, enough for him to want to experiment on his God in order to bring back his dead wife, only for him to fail and create the very shadow monster you sealed and ultimately released, eventually leading to the near-destruction of our entire reality

Pretty funny, right?
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>>691991520
ill just buy it in the 25th consider it a birthday gift to myself
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>>691991404
Actually, the Switch and PS4 versions apparently run better than the PS5 versions
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>>691991601
Remember that time you had to defeat 3 Heavy Egg Hammers on a small platform in Final Fortress from Sonic Heroes? I did that.
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the Switch version hasn't been dumped by now because retards leaked new Zelda games on the only two existing Switch emulators, poking the big red bear and causing it to drag them both into the fucking shadow realm, so there'd be no point

thanks a lot Nintennegros
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>>691981306
Doom's 2024 model somehow looks worse than his 2005 one wtf
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>>691991601
>I was me, Shadow, I leaked Sonic x Shadow Generations for the Nintendo Switch
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>>691981306
>no guns
>not even a sword
I call fake.
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>>691991848
>and then I told Nintendo about the emulators so you couldn't play it
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>I was the one who implanted the idea that Sonic Adventure 2 aged poorly
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>i was the one who spread the idea that Sonic 06 was an underrated masterpiece. Those who defy me feel my wrath!
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>>691982305
This is bullshit, we should've gotten a Shadow The Hedgehog style game instead of this shit
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>>691991848
Remember that time you made out with your sister before she and your dad disappeared and went back to being dead, and your resulting boner hit her cunny a little and made her moan awkwardly?
It was ME, SHADOW! I WAS YOUR SISTER!
>Verification not required.
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Biggest plot twist is that black doom made sonic to annoy shadow
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>>691988327
Even beyond all the cringe dialogue, terrible characterization and vacuous plots. This wannabe nu lore about the emeralds being not some mythical godly artifacts but instead random space batteries really sets the stage for how shit of a writer Ian is.
I mean it's not enough this guy doesn't have any interesting ideas of his own, but he also needs to forcefully try to ruin the good ideas that were there?
It doesn't even make sense within itself (Master Emerald is still from Earth) and it contradicts the actual established lore (Light Gaia has been using the Emeralds to fight off Dark Gaia since the dawn of time)
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>>691992195
That would take effort from Sonic Team. Just consume the product and get excited for Frontiers 2.
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>the Sonic The Hedgehog series
Black doom
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>It was me, Shadow. I was the Game Grump.
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>>691989445
>It's like they learned NOTHING from Forces outside of padding the levels out
Frontiers taught them that the cutscenes weren't cool enough. If you make it look cool enough then the shallow gameplay surrounding it doesn't matter
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>Me Shadow, I'm the one who starts the 2D vs 3D debates.
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>>691990796
>basic bitch moral greyness
>deep and mature
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>>691991848
>>691991601
>Shadow: This 'Ian Flynn' makes a mockery of all of us... I'm getting sick of him! References after references, reliving Maria (and I guess Gerald's) passing, what a farce! I ought to give him a Chaos Spear and more...
>???: Is that how you speak to your daddy, Shadow?
>Shadow: Who's there!?
>Ian Flynn: It's me, Shadow.
>Ian: Shadow... I know what you've been doing.
>I've seen your posts. "Ian Flynn is so cringe. Flynn fell off. Flynn's a dumb faggot. Archie sucks. Sally sucks. IDW is pure, utter echidna shit."
>Echidna shit. That's really funny, Shadow. That's really funny. But you know what? I've got something even funnier, Shadow. Even funnier.
>Shadow: What're you getting at...
>Ian: Oh, you didn't know? This whole time? Who else would do such terrible deeds? Put you through such cringe? Make you into a caricature of yourself for my amusement?
>Shadow: No, that can't be... you're not-!
>That's right Shadow, it was ME BLACK DOOM ALL ALONG
>I WROTE ALL THE SCRIPTS FOR ARCHIE AND THE GAMES SHADOW
>I MADE ALL THE CRINGE REFERENCES
>IT WAS ALL ME
>AND NOW I'M GONNA WRITE ANOTHER ONE SHADOW
>YOU MAY THINK EVERYTHING'S LIKE AN ILLUSION, BUT YOU'LL BE LOSING YOUR SANITY BEFORE LONG
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>>691992283
>contradicts lore
This is what all pseudointellectual lore fags say. Chip has not been using the Emeralds every time. The Emeralds matter in Unleashed because they needed to be repowered and repair the world that was prematurely broken. Chip and DG do their thing without the emeralds every million years.
The Master Emerald being from Earth is not "this doesn't make sense". It is an open avenue they are going to explore later.
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>>691992283
What makes you think Ian came up with that?
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>>691992283
Just wait till you find out that the Chaos Emeralds were actually once one and called the Chaos Jubilee and was a sister gem to the Master Emerald.
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>>691991650
I NEED TO KNOW THE FPS FOR THE SWITCH VERSION IF THIS IS TRUE
I STILL HAVEN'T DECIDED ON WHAT VERSION
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>>691992349
But anon, dynamic boss music and therapy sessions are so epic (or based as the kids say these days).
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>>691992401
Then why do the Gaia Temples have little Chaos Emerald slots?
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>>691990919
>originality
Literally every plot he write was either a recycled Bronze age comic or just straight up Star Trek ripoffs.
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>>691988052
Fuck this faggot
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>>691992383
I guess Shadow will have to Live and Learn..
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The Chaos Emeralds are the worst part of the series lore btw. I will not elaborate.
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>>691992283
nah, they're still mythical godly artifacts. just also from another planet
I don't see how the Master Emerald being from Earth doesn't make sense
and it was never said that the Emeralds have always been used in the Light Gaia/Dark Gaia conflicts
nothing about the new Chaos Emerald lore contradicts what's already there
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Can you faggots show gameplay of the levels already
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>>691992283
The ME still being from Earth is such a mind bogglingly vast void of a plothole that I cannot reasonably understand how they wrote the story in that way.
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https://youtu.be/Ssltypuap5g
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>>691992584
>setup beat for later
>"its a plothole!!!"
Please stfu
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>>691992576
Sonicfags are too autistic for that
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>>691992576
it's almost 2:00 AM on the east coast, whoever the leaker is I'm pretty sure that faggot's knocked the fuck out right now
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>>691992283
>This wannabe nu lore about the emeralds being not some mythical godly artifacts but instead random space batteries really sets the stage for how shit of a writer Ian is.
While I'm not a huge fan of Ian myself, I do believe the whole "the chaos emeralds are from space" thing is yet another instance of Sonic Team retardation. I remember one of Ian's podcast from before Frontiers' release where he mentioned that Sonic Team already had a concept in mind for the chaos emerald's origins, and what do you know, said origins eventually came up in Frontiers.

Plus it lines up with the trend of Sonic Team always falling back on space/aliens for backstory shit.
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>>691987419
He just wants Shadow to DO A SIN and he can't even do that right.
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>>691992646
>it's not a plothole, he's gonna fill it in later!
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>>691992619
lmao
It's sad this isn't even an exaggeration at this point
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>>691992519
or copy-paste echidnas hitting the heil in that one page for some godforsaken reason
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Black Doom knowing about the emeralds and being able to use Chaos Control already implied the emeralds had at least some connection to alien worlds.
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>>691992646
You're a bit stupid aren't you?
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>>691992720
Shadow, it's me... the devil! I'm here to convince you to do sin!
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>>691992680
I don't know exactly who's at fault. But Ian has run the "mandates" card out on me awhile ago
He's the writer, he's responsible until otherwise confirmed..
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>>691992576
This, this thread was a waste of fucking time, not even any music posted
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How can anyone look at the Kingdom Valley leak and think "this is great!"
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The Forces model is my green eyes/blue arms. I fucking hate it
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>>691992307
>I told Yuji Naka how he should design Balan Wonderworld!
>That doesn't really have anything to do with you, I just thought it was funny.

>Hmph. That is kind of funny.
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>>691992804
no it doesn't
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>>691992873
Fags threw a hissy fit over Ian shit and the thread went to complete shit after that.
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>"It's a me, Mario!" I'm Mario, Shadow
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>>691992858
Steal candy... from babies!... AND small businesses! I'm not talking about Walmart.
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>>691988929
I agree, though I think it'll mostly be fine in practice. I guess Sonic Team saw people get mad that cyberspace had no spectacle or sauce so they were like "uhhh stage morph lmao"
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Black Doom: It was all a ruse you pathetic little ant! For you see I, Black Doom, was the MASTERMIND the ENTIRE TIME! Every single thing that’s happened to you over the last 4 hours of gameplay was orchestrated by ME and my INSANE mind!
Shadow: Wait, so even when I got robbed by Sonic, that was you?
Black Doom: Yes, all delicately coordinated beforehand using paid actors and animatronics.
Shadow: What about Mephiles being unretconned and getting trapped in his scepter again?
Black Doom: Yes, all me! The whole thing cost me 750,000 rings and over 19 years of planning, just to lead you right here into the palm of my hands.
Shadow: Why would you do this?
Black Doom: To make one simple request…
Shadow: Okay, what is it?
Black Doom: I was just wondering if you wanted to HANG out with me and smoke Killer Plant and fill our bellies with CHAOS Cola and play Shadow the Hedgehog for the PS2?
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>>691992946
Haha I get that Trannycube reference!
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Why does some rock that control rocks that were originally located an ungodly amount of distance away anyway
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>>691992383
>It was me, Shadow, I was Ian Flynn pretending to me five seconds ago
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>>691990897
If you want to be technical StH already did that. By creating Shodan the Hellhog he drove Gerald to being killed which technically isn't Eggman's motivation but it probably didn't help his psyche.
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>>691992619
God, Tail's "TRUE DAT" gets me every time.
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>>691992938
ahhh so like every single fucking Sonic thread
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>>691981306
>Shadow has dark angel wing while fighting some guy named Devil Doom
Did DeviantArt write this game?
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>>691993101
You are the reason we stopped getting cool shit for a decade
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>>691992804
No, it just implies he already came to Earth before.
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>>691992873
>people are having fun doomposting
>retard dopamine addled babies want shit that'll be put up anyway as soon as the game comes out
Fuck off faggot. This is for the real fans.
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>>691993136
We're not getting cool shit now.
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Shit Thread
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>>691993004
Snapcube black doom is great (and better than the real one).
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>>691992859
You can just look to the other two people credited for writing, story and script. Or the designated "Director of Sonic Lore"
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>>691992619
>>691992770
>that document that showed a cut line from Forces where he wanted them to see Classic Sonic and go "WOAH it's been GENERATIONS since we saw you!"
>the editor commentary being like "NO NO NO THIS IS TOO FUCKING STUPID NO"
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>>691993136
This is what passes for "cool" now? Even in the 2000s this shit would've been mocked relentlessly as a corny joke.
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Shadow, it was I who caused the videogame developer Game Freak to leak one terabyte of Pokemon game data, making you lust for stray human children and sexy pilots and disrupting your feeble attempts to defy me. Now my perfect order begins while you dance in fire, traoped in this machine! Kwahahaha!
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>>691993260
>cut line
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>>691993101
Devil Doom is what Black Doom becomes in the final boss of Shadow '05 faggot
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>>691987841
No it's just prophesising the doomsday zone battle it's not deep bro.
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>>691992383
Where's that fighting freak Knuckles to help fight this cringe!? We need his power, man, or we'll be almost dead!
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>>691993305
>Shadow 05
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>>691993264
>This is what passes for "cool" now?
Always has
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>>691993037
>color schemes: red black
>alignment: evil
>hates rebellious hedgehogs
>technically both alien to Earth
>giant horns
>based on demons
>can breathe fire
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

IIZUKA SAN I KNEEL
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>>691981306
One of the worse leak threads I've ever seen, never change Sonic Faggots
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>>691993260
Uh... who's gonna tell him?
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>>691993003
>The whole thing cost me 750,000 rings
lol now I have an image of Black Doom running through Sonic levels gathering rings for this
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>>691993260
>“...a cut line...”
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>>691993369
The actual leak thread was the previous thread you dumb monkey.
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>>691992619
>YOU MUST ADVANCE SONIC
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>>691993000
Which is weird, because I'm pretty sure the complaint was the lack of variety in stage design and recycled layouts, rather than not having cutscenes that interrupt you in the middle of the stage.
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>>691993407
So OP was bait, thanks dick head
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>>691984150
I guess we win but how about the rest of the game? Is it ass?
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>>691993247
Black Doom is real?
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>>691993345
Nigga acting like this wasn't one of the most slop final boss of the series.
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Archie is Dead
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>>691993456
I heard he moved to israel after being caught doing tax fraud
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>>691993460
Nigga pretending he was even born when this game came out
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>>691993321
>whew, I just flew in from Sky Sanctuary Zone and boy are my dreadlocks tired!
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>>691993369
oh yeah. twenty percent leaks, eighty percent yap

it's 2:00 AM and the leaker is probably sleeping though so we retards should call it a night instead of continuing to be super mega autists over video games about speedy furries

(or call it a day if you live in some other bumass time-zone)
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Every post itt was made by black doom
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>>691993345
Devil Doom was shit.
Chaos, Final Hazard, Metal Overlord, and Solaris were all cooler
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I like black doom unironically, I like a villain that's completely unrepentantly evil.
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>>691993505
Good
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>>691993581
>Every post itt was made by black
yes
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>>691993454
from what I'm hearing, not at all. every bit of information I've seen come out of this game, leaked or not, tells me one thing: it's peak fuckin' fiction
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>>691993574
Make a Black Doom joke or fuck off.
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>Sonic has had 900 adventures (And the 900th was shit)
>The comics are canon
>BOOM is canon
>The Restoration is canon
>The nonbinary Quokka is canon
>Every robot Sonic/Whatever has ever destroyed besides Metal and the first E series robots not only survived but has become his friend

Just somebody put a ullet in Ian already before he does something really stupid
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>>691993757
*bullet
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the promised leak will arrive once more...
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>>691982097
Based gatekeepers gatekeeping /v/.
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>>691993757
>black doom was behind sonic boom
Holy fuck
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>>691993545
You're not black, Jimmy.
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>It was me Shadow! I used Chaos Control to make you cum without even noticing so you would be one millisecond slower and lose to Sonic!
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>>691993247
>look! i can do this! i can do this, anytime i want! this is nothing to me! you are NOTHING to me! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! THIS IS MY BIG FUCKING THING
>oh my god he's fucking losing it entirely
the dubs aren't the greatest but when something lands in them it really fucking lands
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>>691992619
Gotta love Twitterfaggots with their tails between their legs whenever they make this shit and before you even get into the video their comments be "THIS WAS TOTALLY JUST FOR THE MAYMAYS YOU GUYS DON'T ATTACK ME FOR SHITTING ON X PERSON THIS VIDEO IS MOCKING I TOTALLY DON'T MEAN IT HAHA"

Like, faggot, no one CARES, until you make yourself look like a special innocent snowflake that did in't do nuffin, when we all know you indeed, did, do this because you like everyone else are hating on said very person for said very reasons.

And now that the game does, indeed, have other video game line references in it proving this video right they are likely going to stay quite but act smug going "haha got that bastard Ian with this one", just stop hiding it faggot you're not special for thinking what everyone else was clearly thinking.
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Another thread for the black bvll gigabrain mastermind chads
>>691994193
>>691994193
>>691994193
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>>691993345
Even Perfect Dark Gaia was better than this. And I'm talking the HD version.

Hell, even Durka Durka Jihad Bin Laden Djinn from Secret Rings was a better final boss.
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>>691982305
This looks like sonic forces
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>>691994305
It goes without saying that Dark Queen was better
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>>691993505
and nothing of value was lost
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>>691994257
Great more Autism
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>>691993757
It's not that serious
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>>691993003
lmao
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>>691981306
>The manga retcon is canon in the gameverse afterall

MOTHERFUCKERS

AND IT WASNT EVEN IAN THAT DID IT, IT WAS SOJ. Fuck every single person who told me that SOJ would fix everything by further lessening American control, I KNEW it WOULDN'T HAPPEN because DUH
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>>691994305
>Durka Durka Jihad Bin Laden Djinn from Secret Rings
not the dark spine sonic fight though the normal Erazor Djinn fight was way better FILTHY RAT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDQ7eeRe_HY
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>>691994592
And I'm talking to YOU Sonic Twitter and everyone on /co/ who said so. "JAPANESE KINO" has FAILED and somehow failed worse than Ian could ever do.
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>>691994456
Do you know what thread you're in?
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>>691992619
>The Sonic X dub Rouge theme
>Dream of an absolution Sonic!
>SONIC HEROOOOES
Cracks me up
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>>691994767
>failed worse than Ian could ever do
Debatable.
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>>691994954
CLAP CLAP CLAP I CLAPPED IAN I CLAPPED!
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>>691991320
"I also developed Sonic 06 in the real world"
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>>691994954
The GUN retcon is so bad that I don't even gaf about these cheesy lines...
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>>691995181
kek
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>>691982329
wtf where is that gif from? pls give sauce before thread archives
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>>691996320
gag commercial they made for Sonic Mania's collector's edition



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