Dlc when?
Speaking of DLC, I don't presume Team Cherry actually mentioned anything about when they'd release or how long we'd have to wait for it?
>>721690379They're going to be releasing dlc for years
>>721690107What do people want in DLC besides boss rush/arena?Personally I want actual new areas this time instead of just bosses.
>>721690107STOP THAT IS A SHOTA!
>>721690614NG+
>>721690614Yeah NG+The game feels kinda ass if you start again without any upgrades but you get some of the cool shit so fucking late there's nothing to use it onAlso I want a crest that uses the unarmed moveset from the prison so I can play the whole game naked, find some way to make float and double jump and shit still work without the cape
>>721690501That means they are going to take years making it
now what
>721690614The option to have all crests unlocked at the beginning of a new run after you’ve already beaten the game once
Ive been watching my roommate play for a bit. He plays the game not unlike the game journalist did at cup head. He almost cant handle the platforming alone, and stuggles to handle even the simple crawling enemies. The thing that fucks him up the most is these white flower pads thing, he literally cant handle timing his down attacks + air control to the next pad after he jumps. Is it really a hard game or is he just retarded? When i have girls over he autistically always wants to watch the bee movie, he mutters to himself and his words often devolve into grunts. And hes also like an accountant so its very localized autism/retardation
>>721690841Enemy randomizer mod probably.
>>721690841Steel Soul
>97%I just want to be done.
>>721690998>Is it really a hard game or is he just retarded?People who don't get the hang of the diagonal pogo and red bouncy flowers in about 5 minutes may have an actual learning disability
>>721690107>>721690501>>721690379I'd imagine a Godhome for re-fighting bosses (Snailhome, calling it now) wouldn't take that long, a year at most
>>721691420The issue is more that they'll probably leave godhome for last to integrate all the other dlc bosses
>>721691420>SnailhomeNah, its going to be godhome again, but the context will be fighting voided versions of the the bosses to clean the voided godmaster (just randomly spawned in Pharloom after the flower teleported)
Bilewater theme sounds like an Ender Lilies track.
>>721690998The game is hard. I say this as someone "good" at it. Not only is it pretty hard from a basic standpoint, it's shockingly brutal in terms of mandatory progression (platforming especially). A certain middle section of the game is just traight up "this feels like a small segment of THE hardest platforming section of the previous game", and gamers need to get past it to get some song for an elevator.Diagonal pogo, which I love, also just fucks up most people even though it's fun as fuck.
>>721691307I wish i could record him playing, hes getting angry about being hit. Hes fought this red skelly bug like 5 times now and he keeps dodging into the telegraphed emerge from the ground attack
>>721690501>YearsYeah a DLC is definitely becoming the third game. These aussies can't help it
>>721690614More story, something with Lace. She cute and I like her and I want to see more of her.
>>721691307Keep in mind people got tripped up with the mushroom pogoing in Hollow Knight which was an order of magnitude simpler.
Wish they fixed the base game instead of jumping straight to the DLC
>>721692093Half of the DLC in the first game was fixing/improving the base game.
Is there any game that's similar to Silksong that's not HK? I tried Nine Sols are dropped it within an hour.
>>721692160yeah but who even seriously counts those as DLC?
>>721691824It does seem like the game is not a cake walk, but i cant imagine it is more difficult/steeper learning curve than say darksouls.
Really surprised I oneshot Lost Lace. Was the one fight I expected to need S&Q abuse on but it worked out.
>>721691824Diagonal pogo by itself is okay. The fact that you are vulnerable THE ENTIRE DURATION of it and that landing it puts you into hitstop, but not the enemy/gear you are hitting is a devastating combo of retarded design that makes the pogo useless in 90% of situations.
>>721692170If you'd like HK style combat with a lighter tone try Islets.
>>721690614two new areas would be niceadditional bossesDLC that adds "Lace stuff" so that the game isn't "Tell don't show" about her character. Basically to make stuff like the ending land with a bit more significance. idk, if they really want her to be Vergil (given her moves, they do) then she needs no less than 2 additional story scenes, and at least one "teams up with you, for some arbitrary reason" scene within act 2>>721692229Bro Dark Souls is fffFUCKING easy. Not kidding, genuinely an extremely easy series of games. Silksong makes my hands hurt. While you are able to trivialize combat in this game through certain tool usage, you can't really trivialize the platforming and that's where the true horror lies. You can make yourself invincible during platforming, but still need to actually do it.
So what would you actually like to see in a DLC, aside from the obvious like a coral zone expansion and the godhome equivalent?
>>721692254I'm dragging my feet on getting my SS completion done. I know I gotta do races and flea games again and I don't feel like it yet.
>>721692226Me!
>>721692170I keep seeing Magenta Horizon getting shilled, but I've never played it myself.
>>721692304eh it's completely fine, you literally just need to get used to it. I don't think I missed a single pogo once I understood how it works. You can of course also use it to parry damage
To get the Completion cheevo, I have to beat Lost Lave again, right?
>>721692391Flea games ended up being fun for me the second time around because I was only going for the first set of high scores and didn't need to care about beating Seth's scores.Completely understand though.
>>721689134I wanted to shamelessly repost my idea because I thought it was good and it was the last post of the thread. More than that though, I wanted to say that its kind of weird that war hasn't really been present in either game so far despite both being about huge and powerful kingdoms. There must be conflicts at some point right? I guess with them both being underground and the outside world being so hostile, it makes sense that each kingdom would be isolated somewhat, but wherever there are resources theres bound to be conflict right? It would be silly not to explore the idea more at some point.
>>721692456Yes the completion achievements are get 100% and then beat the boss, not beat the boss and also get 100%.
>>721690107Hornet is for Lace and Lace only.
IT'S THEIR TURN. LET MY MAN SHARPE FINALLY BE A BOSS, TEAM CHERRY.
the courier quests are really hard.
>>721692504Bad picture. Bad taste.
>>721690614>never even touched GodhomePlease... something in the same tier of difficulty as the base game. I don't want to be filtered immediately.
>>721692495Well, we've done top to bottom in HK and bottom to top (to bottom) in SS.Left to right, or right to left just seem bland so I guess starting on the inside and heading out is one way to go
>>721692496Well I might as well make it special and not use any tools or items against Lost Lace.I'm gonna need the practice for the eventual Godhome DLC after all.
>>721690841>>721691054Steel Soul without cheating
>>721692535no sweetie I think the combat is hard
>>721692383maybe some kind of native randomizer mode? that by itself probably wouldn't do much since you could just mod it, but if you bundle it with weekly or monthly seeds + a leaderboard of the best completion times it could provide some neat replayability
How many of you guys didn't play Godhome when it was new?Hell, did some of you guys not play Hollow Knight within the first year of its release?
>>721692504I feel like Lace's tits would be biggerYes her hips are her biggest feature but I think she'd also be very chesty and Hornet would be a chestlet that Lace would tease and titmog
>>721690107Hornet makes /ss/*?* = spider silk
>>721692581I don't like it either anon but you know it's inevitable. Just hope they're smarter this time and don't lock cool unique boss fights behind that annoying grind.
>>721692714>Hell, did some of you guys not play Hollow Knight within the first year of its release?I played HK in 2022 because I don't care for metroidvania's. This is about as much as I did
>>721692450I didn't miss pogos either. I did got eaten by bosses and gears DURING a succesfull pogo. Cause you sit there open for 3 frames before bouncing back and the gear has ample time to chew right through you. So it's not a diagonal attack at all, it still only works from the top. And even THAT doesn't work if the target is moving up. Idk why they are even putting pogo in if they hate players using it THAT much
>>721692714I played it in 2018 when it got ported to ps4.
>>721692714I only went back to finish Hollow Knight after Silksong came out. Did not bother with Godhome I hate it.
>>721692714I didn't play HK till literally two weeks before Silksong came out.Had wanted to, but never got around to it. Owned the game but just didn't install it to try out till Silksong got me to try and rush through it before Silksong. Had a good enough time. Got all the way through Godhome and beat Pure Vessel fairly. But when it came to Pantheon 5, I gave up since Silksong was just about to come out. I already struggled enough to beat Pure Vessel. That was my finish line for the game personally.Ended up 100%'ing Silksong fully though. Though I did use save and quit in my Steel Soul run.
>>721692903you beat the series
>>721692714hollow knight the day of release was genuine ass. Imagine being so retarded of a gamedesigner you don't put paper trail and humming near cornifer
>>721692714I actually got recommended HK from a very small-time Youtuber who has since dropped off the face of the earth but he was on that shit before it got mega-popular.And I sucked complete shit and bounced off hard. Couldn't even beat Mantis Lords. Put the game down for a whole year and when I came back I got super into it and did everything and now I could clear the game in my sleep. I'm still mixed on whether I like Silksong more though.
>>721692376>You can make yourself invincible during platformingHow?
>>721692714Played it in 2021 according to Steam. Thought it'd been longer.
>>721693151Drugs. Lots of it.
If you were a soulless megacorp who wanted to milk maximum profitability out of the HK franchise but didn't give two shits about quality or artistic integrity, what would be the way to do it? The strategy of "go radio silent for 7 years to make everyone scream about you during every press conference so you have insane word of mouth when you're ready to actually lauch" was pretty incredible - I wonder how you could use that power if you had dark ends for it.
Steel DLCPlasmium DLCVoid-godmaster DLCCalling it now
>>721692954Did he not hum? Huh I could've sworn he did
>>721693232No, seriously explain what you mean.
>>721693329>he doesn't knowhahahaha
>>721693329Not him but Architect Crest + Plasmium Phial.Get enough Plasmium masks and you'll overdose, all your masks will turn blue, and you've basically got Lifeblood + Hiveblood from HK but the regen is a bit faster.
>>721693316Don't forget a "Hidden Dreams" type DLC.The number of places we can use the Elegy are very small, but there's plenty of spots I'm sure they could put in for a bigger boss fight over some dead body.
>>721693308merch and NFTs I guess
I beat the game with 100% completion. Now what? I'm not doing the speedrun or steel soul stuff until all the DLC comes out and it gets a GOTY version with all the DLC included
>>721693528I can't read beaner
>>721693308Netflix adaptation.
>>721693440I hope they do make some good merch, I'll buy it.
>>721693391Oh ok. I don't use that crest. I need my parry and I hate diagonal pogo but infinite platforming tries sound nice.
Why the fuck did they take two blue slots off the fucking Beast Crest as if to imply it's powerful enough to need the nerf? It's pogo is slow and it's abilities are okay at best. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>721693575Learn another language
>>721693579This, nothing could be more evil.
I call it now, all DLCs will be like HK DLCs but worse in some fucky way. Like no tool refills between levels of the final pantheon AT ALL.
>>721693668maybe it's bad, useless, and poorly designed for the atmosphere
>>721693681No. Spanish sounds disgusting. Chinese and Spanish are so fucking grating to the ears. I don't know why you haven't been wiped off the face of the planet yet. I guess you doing landscaping is what's keeping you spics around
>>721693668they were thinking "well all our players are CLEARLY like fireb0rn so we need to preemptively nerf EVERYTHING"
Which handicaps do you think the boss rush DLC will offer ?
>>721693827Speedrunners instinctively prefer Wanderer which has a good spread of tool slots and stupid high damage and bonus extra damage just for shits and giggles.
>>721693575I feel like a meme being written in a nonsense language that you can't understand can make it funnier.
>>721693823
>>721693308It wouldnt hurt them to make a comic.
>>721693927
>>721693876No crest, you fight with Slab naked moveset.
>>721692170castlevania symphony of the night, circle of the moon and harmony of dissonance, basically all the gba and ds games al lthe megaman zero gameswonder boy games
Why the heck does the game tell you to go after Karmelita first in act 3. She's so much better than the other two that it makes them even more disappointing by comparison.
>>721693996
>>721693152i don't get it
>>721694045Does it tell you to go to her first? I mean she's the closest but I feel like with Coral Tower being a place you've probably actually been to before some people might hit that up first.
>>721693749>Like no tool refills between levels of the final pantheon AT ALLAs a ShamanCHAD, this matters not to me.
>>721693575Pharloom (I'm guessing here) about to turn into Hallownest 2.0Bugs in Bellhart: We are done for (spoken like Flanders?)The fleas:
I can't do it bros.Always get my shit pushed in in 2nd phase.She broke me... I lost...
>>721694045I went for Khann followed by Nyleth because of the order they are displayed in in the menu
>>721694227poggo
>>721694227I want to see whatever zenomorph thing that came out of her being a boss fight.
>>721693749I seriously am wondering how it’s going to work.I can see a binding being dedicated to Shards and that you will probably only have 200 shards to start with if you do it, and you get very little after finishing a gauntlet as a mercy, but it means you can’t spam much.That is assuming that there isn’t a red tool bind that doesn’t heavily limit what weapons you can use.>>721693876HealthMagicDamageBlue Tools and Yellow Tools. Red Tools are iffy because they are a core part of the move pool but right now they feel like a mess to balance.Shard Limit if they allow some Red Tools.And I wouldn’t know what the fuck they would do with Crests. I wouldn’t prefer if they don’t count for anything desu
I've realized what I actually want from the DLC. I want new zones but I don't want them to be in the patch notes. I miss that week one feeling of people announcing they had just found their way into a new zone I had no fucking clue existed.
>>721694178The shamans tell you about her first.
>>721694045Crab man is easy but having a whole challenge tower before it with unique environments and enemies makes up for it. It does a good job of selling him as a warrior king. Plant lady on the other hand is just a dud. No build up, no gravitas, no sense of importance or scale. Especially because narratively it's supposed to be the strongest of the 3. The fight being way too easy just seals the deal.
>people who torture themselves with masochist gameplay>vs people who simply enjoy hornet fanart
>>721694119She stole her clothes
>>721694423fight is easier easy with tools or complete cancer if you try to pogo off her. With gunter she legit does the blast attack FASTER than i can retreat
>>721694331>And I wouldn’t know what the fuck they would do with Crests. I wouldn’t prefer if they don’t count for anything desuYou wouldnt want at least a crest/tool randomizer added in?
>>721693827You should have seen that guy struggling with nyleth.
>>721694705>tfw you first try the abyss escape flawlessly and watch a pro speedrunner touch lavaI'm dying of smug over here.
>>721694227Clawline is your friend. I hope you have the double jump by now.Don't be tricked by the pogo, it's a bit safe but it does the same damage as the regular slash, don't spam it.
>>721694423Nyleth should have had a tough platforming section before her, with a plant based gimmick. It would have contrasted nicely with Krabby being focused on arena combat, Karmelita being a really tough boss, and the prancing homos having exploration.
>>721694851I guess they figured Nyleth's gimmick of being two bossfights for the price of one was good enough.
great boss, last phase made me feel bad and I already want to refight them really easy though
>>721694812Yeah I need to learn to use Clawline more in fights>double jumpIt's been more of a liability for me right now>web attack>"whoops gotta float">double jumps>get hit
>>721694627You saying that made me realize they can do a Kirby True Arena type deal that every benchpoint offers an opportunity for a weapon swap. I think that would be a great middle ground actually. It’s random and it’s up to the player to decide if they want it or not.But Crests are tricky and I feel like I’m flip flopping on how TC should handle it.
Why is there a random platform above The outside of Karak’s area? I know the platform across fromIt is steel soul stuff, but this seems actually pointless.
It's weird how small the area before you reach Nyleth is, even the dream she's in takes just a short moment to go through
>>721694227You can make the floor spikes go away early by hitting them twice, nothing in the fight indicates that but that's how it works.
the animations that play before the act 3 bosses are worse than any runback
>>721695237If you pogo on the spike platforms on the way up to the cradle they slide down, that's your tutorial
>>721694227witch charge attack is very strong but you have to mash to extend the duration and make it actually worthwhileThis is only really relevant for certain unlucky configurations of rockfall/webs in the last phaseClawline is greatHer attacks are basically in a rhythm so just "take turns" if you find yourself getting hit because you were focused on attacking her.
>>721695113I think it's dumb you can't float without burning the double jump.Also one more tip, if she does her claw attack and sweeps across the stage, you can attack once to parry, turn around and attack again to parry once more. You won't take damage. Probably best to just jump tge move but if you find yourself in a bad spot it's at least an option.
>>721695237you literally do that in the platforming section before her, i've insantly realized you can push them
They should just reuse all the coral assets they made for the path of pain of this game.
>>721695076Don't feel bad for them, they're faggots.
wahooothat was a lot of fun. turns out Silksong has both a path of pain and a proper hellrun if you get someone else to find it for you and post it on youtube
>>721695326I didn't realize that shit until my second playthrough when it was actually the silk heart sequences that tutorialized it for me.When I got to her actual room in my first run I never touched the spikes because by then I had Clawline and double jump and was an air master.
>>721692714when i first played hollow knight i rushed through it in 21 hours and didnt get any health upgrades and one nail upgrade. never did annything dlc related either
>>721695456Is this the act 1 no Clawline climb? Good work. You going to start act 2 through wisp thicket?
>>721692714I beat HK after Silksong came outOnly did true ending, mostly blind, mostly no extra stuff yet, took me 35 hours and I have 102% apparently
>>721695552What are the act 2 triggers anyways?I want to do a playthrough where I get the max % possible without ever triggering act 2.
>>721695076Jokes aside, they're unironically one of the best despite being not that difficult.
>>721692714I was late to the party with HK and never really got into godhome because I honestly hate around half of HK's boss roster, really looking forward to silksong's equivalent though since there hasn't been a single boss I haven't had fun with
>>721692714>play hollow knight in 2019>do everything up to godhome 4, beating it>don’t touch the game for years>silksong release date announced>fuck I should probably finish that>try relearning all the bosses>works except NKG, PV, and eventually AR which I reached would be a grind>do it anyway, spent like 4 hours on separate nights just fighting those three over and over>try P5>somehow do it with one mask remainingshit was hard, doesn’t help I waited so long but whatever.
>>721695552I was gonna find out if entering through putrefied ducts is possible
nobody has actually 100%'d this game
>>721695726It's not. You can only access the lower part.
>>721692714I beat all of Hollow Knight, messed with Godhome a little and was like, "Hollow Knight's combat is too boring for this to be fun. No thanks"I'd do it for Silksong
Just beat Lost Lace. Took me about two hours. I don't know how in a game with multiple kino "duel" fights with great music, they somehow made the "duel" final boss such utter dogshit with completely forgettable music. Anyway, 100% completion, 72 hours total. Nice game, a little disappointing but that was inevitable.
>>721692714I apparently first played HK in November of 2019. I never beat P4.
>>721695367I swear to god that attack never hit me when I fought her in Act 2 before I got the double jump. Now I'm in constant terror of that attack hitting me. Most of the floor isn't even safe because if the web clips even Hornet's horns, she'd get hit and that's 3 masks gone.
>>721695456Silksong's path of pain isn't this, but is fairly hard. I found it more difficult than the Path of Pain, but it is objectively shorter
>>721690614Lore area that explores the origin of pale beingsReturn to hallownestMore weaver areas
>>721693316Even if its been done last game I'd love the Grim Troupe to return. Loved those guys.
>fighting a guy named Phantom inside a giant pipe organThe Messenger did it.
>>721696034I like the final phase music but completely agreed for the first phases. It's really unremarkable music.No shit I literally muted the music in my winning run before the final phase and played https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41UO6F2L0qk insteadGot me SO MUCH more pumped and ready to fight her.
>>721692714i still have not beat radianceIm happy to say ive beaten lost lace at least
>>721690501Do you think the DLC will fix the clusterfuck of ass cancer that is the entirety of Act 3?
>did rite of rebirth before getting 9 masks>now gotta do the fight with 8 if I want to get the achievementI feel like I can still get the ending, but damn am I bad at being patient in that fight.
>>721696280that game is fucking terrible
>>721695649As far as I know there are 2.>beating the last Judge>entering the choral chambers room after beating phantomYou could probably explore a bit of the citadel without the act 2 trigger, but fuck if I actually know for sure where that is. There’s a video of a guy doing act 1 wisp thicket into the citadel and the act 2 cutscene triggers when he’s already halfway through the place.
>>721690647>Implying Sherma isn't a grown ass bug packing the bug equivalent of a nine inch cock.The unrealistic part of the image is Sherma accepting Hornet's advances. Sherma is to faithful to date. Hornet would have to take him by force.
>>721696314I'll never understand the purpose of these extended uploads when you can just do this if you wanna listen to the same track on repeat like a maniac
>>721690107I'm surprised there isn't that many Hornet x Sherman(sp) art floating around.Speaking of, how many here dropped everything to rescue the dude when his quest pop up?
>>721696597Because youtube's "loop" is not seamlessto get a seamless loop (on a track that actually loops) you need to use an actual music player out of browser basically
>>721696163What this anon did specifically is climb Mount Faye in act 1 before getting the Clawline, which is actually extremely difficult.
>>721696552>You could probably explore a bit of the citadel without the act 2 triggeryou can't, once you enter the chamber left of the grand bell station it becomes act 2
>>721696721So if you ascend wisp thicket in act 1 you would only be able to explore the underworks?
>>721696682I would personally say it's fairly but not extremely difficult.When I first heard about it I thought "that sounds like it's impossible" and then I saw that it hinges on sharpdart--which is basically a very expensive and shorter clawline.
>>721696797that I don't know, I'm specifically talking about after going through Phantom
>>721696636I did.
>>721695146Near as I can tell that's just supposed to allude to the tunnels that you visit in the memory, but I got severely puzzled by that too. I must've gone back up there a half-dozen times figuring I missed something.
>>721696636I have to imagine everyone did. I didn't even doublecheck that it was in the Whiteward I just started hoofing it because for all I knew that shit was timed.
>>721695924exactly. Godhome feels like autistic mod for hyper malenia type of stuff, not something game would officially have. Pretty cringe to make a game catering to kaizo crowd without immediately focusing that.
>>721690501nerf seth scores
>>721695943This is too good. Although I wish Hornet wasnt huge in this.
>>721695649https://youtu.be/c3L_f9l7GXc?si=tEkWjouVXyDCx5o7It might be that as long as you don’t enter that one room in choral chambers or go to the bridge by last judge, you may possibly be able to get the basic ending in act 1. I bet someone is experimenting with this at the moment.
Do I need to finish anything before playing the threefold melody?
>>721696550The Messenger is better than both Hollow Knight games EVEN as metroidvania, not even mentioning how much better it is as pure action platformer.
>>721697121no you're not near any lockout
>>721697001I don’t think it’s that because I think the memory is mean to to be inside the tomb you go inside. It may just have been a place they forgot to put a geo rock or something.
>>721696636Outright /ss/ will mostly come from Asians. And they apparently suck at video games so that's going to slow things down. Also, no one knew this game was going to have a cute shota in it, so it wasn't on the radar of people who are in to that.>how many here dropped everything to rescue the dude when his quest pop up?Pretty much everyone it seems like.
I had to work on Juggle a bit but otherwise this was very smooth sailing.
>>721697121The only real point of no return is when you go for an alternate way to beat the final boss
>>721697201Weird pigeon
>>721697129Anon, we all have fun here but I know you don't actually think that.
How does "parrying" or whatever it is work in this game? Is it just hitting an enemy right before their attack comes out?
Is there any way to get back into Verdania after beating the clover dancers?
>>721692229I soloed Souls and ER without having a wiki open all the time lost most fags who boast about it, and I didn't hate those games nearly as much as Silksong. The bosses are great and have solid tells, but the actual platforming can be annoying because you're contesting against moving blades and spikes and vomit spewing monsters and enemies that bob and wiggle around solely to fuck up your trajectory and hidden traps and etc. Poking a spike on the wall resets you, it's all tedious bullshit. It's the tedium that's hard to overcome. The trailers made it look like this fun, agile, aerodynamic game, but it's all very stilted and annoying in practice. I hated it. Shit game I wasted my time on, Act 1 is the "best" because you think it will get better after nabbing all your upgrades so you have this feeling of positivity and anticipation, but then you get the upgrades and the game just continues to suck. Good bosses and art, nice characters, absolutely miserable and time-wasting exploration and platforming. It goes out of its way to not be fun. I enjoyed the first game but legitimately hated this one.
>>721690107Why is Hornet so FUCKING pissed
Is Lost Lace supposed to teleport on top of you so much? I feel like this wouldn't be nearly as difficult if she wasn't, like I was binding in place in the air and she teleported right on top of me last attempt.
>>721697369No but the journal for the verdania enemies will auto complete
>>721697129I love The Messenger and definitely enjoyed it more than Hollow Knight, but the only thing it beats Silksong at for me is music.
>>721697427you're moving too fast, so stop having fun and maybe you won't get randomly damaged
>>721697346It's clashing your hitbox with theirs.
>>721695649It’s possible that it’s only these rooms that trigger act 2. I’d definitely backup a save though just in case.
>>721697375For clarification I didn't get to Act 3, when I saw the requirements I had a fucking laugh and turned that piece of shit off forever. Maybe it gets better then but I doubt it.
>you can fight a dozen different bosses as your "first" in hollow knight>you MUST fight moss mother and bell beast before anything else in silksongnice """metroidvania""" you got there
>>721697346there's parry (defensive) and there's a parry silk skill which is obtained after beating a certain bossThe defensive one is "you attack an enemy as they are about to hit you" and I would genuinely rarely ever "rely" on it personally, I would say "remember it's something you can do". It's not like it will help you deal damage in most cases, it just saves your ass when it happens.As for the skill, it works with a short activation window, and when an enemy hits you they get attacked back.You've maybe seen some enemies/bosses do it to you. Flash white, take a stance--if you attack me you'll get punished. Hornet's parry attack is very safe though as she disappears during it.Window is pretty healthy. You aren't using Royal Guard from DMC here
>>721697427No, I didn't notice her trying to snipe me like that. You might need to use walljumps to get higher
>>721697313ofc I do. It doesn't feel like RNG when i hit a thing in messenger if i will take damage too. Everything in messenger has a clear pattern. Even upgrades are better and more plentiful. Even visuals are less clogged. Even story is better. Like what axis HK is better at? It's more immersive i guess? But only that. Sure, messenger is non traditional metroidvania that is hampered by focus on linear levels. Except HK is even WORSE at that. Less upgrades and more linear gauntlents.
>>721697201Weirdest bug ever
>>721697375>>721697516ijbol
>>721697498could you go bilewater > putrified ducts > memorium ?
>>721697519You can skip bell beast
>>721697427yeah she is literally coded to do that if you run around too much. I kid you not they are that retarded.
>>721692170The Messenger.
>>721697534Yeah I was thinking of the first one, it feels kind of inconsistent to me but maybe I need to experiment more. Thanks anon.
i never had a issue with lost lace tping directly on me whats up with that?
>Act 3 is literally hidden contentI'm gonna take the same attitude I take towards hidden content in Dark Souls. GET FUCKED I DON'T CARE. I'm not reading the wiki to figure out how to beat the game. I'll take the bad ending, fuck the game world I hope everyone dies.
>>721697692with some enemies' sweeping attacks you'll want to "pogo" off of them which is technically a parry. Something to keep in mind I guess.
>>721697649no? you can't get out of the marrow to get dash without it
>>721690107>Here's a new area with no explanation filled with the most difficult enemies in the game. Go ahead, wander through it for three and a half hours looking for a map, teehee!>How were you supposed to know you were supposed to play the stupid needolin that you never use to tiny, almost unnoticeable butterfly things that are apart of the background AND know that you were supposed to follow them? Well you just have to read the game designers mind, of course!I'm seriously about to drop this shitty game. It doesn't respect my time.
>>721697798You literally just need to do the sidequests and explore enough to find shit.
>>721697838https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMlD8XLsLCs
>>721697498>Chork Ammern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvB1LmOafjUHe's right and Gred should apologize.
>>721697425>26 quadrillion HPThat's just unfair, zero upgrades beastfly and keepaway niggers are the only bosses that have a bad balance of high health and lame attack patterns. I way way more mad at Ragebound especially 1-3 hardmode boss for how few moves both sides have, it always felt more like an endurance test.
God, Seth really is an annoying fucking boss.I hate how he can either chain the big smash three times or just decide not to without any sort of tell.
>>721697865It's literally one room
>>721690107DLC where you play as Hollow Knight
>>721697375>The trailers made it look like this fun, agile, aerodynamic game, but it's all very stilted and annoying in practice. I hated it.skillissue...
>>721697885>Just do boring busywork Why does anyone defend this.
>>721697542NOyou will NOT meme someone into playing that fucking garbage
>>721698015god forbid you need to play the game in order to play more of the game
>>721697865you mean easiest enemies in the game? Ghosts screams and fly toward you, this is literally free pogo material and free silk>how was you supposed to knowAfter a bit of wondering you enter a sideway room where butterflies clearly tryo to show you something. After a second or third visit as you see rooms repeating you go "wait, what CAN i do with butterflies? Hitting? No. Healing? No. Ah, I have music!" and then it clicks.
I had a dream where I fought Lace 2, but she was fat and I won first try
>>721697516>when I saw the requirements I had a fucking laugh and turned that piece of shit off foreverThe requirements are "complete easy af sidequests"
>>721697647Hmm. Maybe? I only ever broke the breakable wall to get into putrified ducts from memoriam on the outside. I don’t know if it breaks the other way.
>>721697945Allegedly you can pogo him into oblivion but I went with poison thumbtack spam because fuck that noise
>>721697865How in the world are you having trouble fighting the ghosts? Also the moths stick out quite a bit and lead you into the area in the first place
>>721697945Team Cherry casually making every player hate a child who died from cancer is the craziest move
>>721698000I beat it, it just wasn't fun. Having fun is punishable by every enemy in the game. Here's how to beat every SS boss>Stand still>Wait for tells>Move slightly out of the way and punishAlternatively>Have fun>Die
I do not care for Lace.
>>721698092they should rename Karmelita to Seth
>>721698043>and then it clicksThe game never told you the needolin can do that, all it says is that it just basically opens the spider doors. Just admit it's shitty game design.
>>721698029what's up with people hating the messenger? Like fr what is there to hate? It's just shovel knight (the best game of all time) with a bit of backtracking
>>721698036>Defending busyworkLoser. Please, explain to me how collecting 12 bells, 15 pins, 25 cloaks, and making a few taco bell deliveries is good game design. It's just shameless and shitty padding.
>>721697647>>721698068Can't you not rise through Bilewater without double jump? The area that allows you to eventually pass into the ducts has no enemies that can be pogod to reach the first platform
>>721698136>The roles dont actually change at all, Lace is just a fucking raging womanlet and Ghost is a lanky autistI'd dig it.
>>721697865Shit, you had to to that? I found the exit by pure brute force and luck. The needolin is the most stupid idea of the game, it even has a dedicated button.
>>721698113Yeah that's my main issue with the game. The most fun part - pogo - literally punishes you even when you do it correctly cause if the victim moves you fucking die
>>721698113yep, skill issue.
>>721698057>>721698015
>>721698189I think they're planning what you can do if you get double jump in act 1.
>>721697865>ghosts>the most difficult enemies in the gameThe only freer silk in the game is those floaty things in bilewater.
>>721698113>>721698212The only boss I fought like that was Seth.Every other boss I aggressively chased down like a hunter.
>>721698160I just assumed needolin was a dream nail and dream nail did all sorts of fucky things it doesn't tell you about
>>721698181I don't think all of those are actually required to get the best ending of the game. I'm not even sure if they are required to get 100% or not.
>>721698015Next you'll say doing the additional stuff to unlock the other endings for Hollow Knight is "busy work", even though it's all optional stuff if just fighting the Hollow Knight was enough for you.
Sherma game when?
man
>>721698015>>721698181>Just play more of the gameI don't know.There's only a few quests that are fetch quests. The only bad ones are spine collecting and bell collecting (bell collecting is awful, too, and should either be removed or they should drop from enemies)
>>721698231boo
>>721697542what a peculiar use of axis
>>721698260you are lying, you didn't beat savage beastfly, nyleth, or even lost lace like that. Or even cogwork dancers really. Or even the last judge. So many bosses punish all of your gap closers hard.
>>721697865>I'm seriously about to drop this shitty game.Good.
>>721690614 Co-Op op mode where P2 can pop around as Lace. Complete with a friendly fire toggle.
>>721697919this video esseyist is simultaneously bored and pretentious
>>721698189>>721698229you can get double jump in act 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC9LS9KuCJobut no, you can't go through petrified ducts or the slabhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBB80LA3fQ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsV7xYuwDvQ
>>721698309Sherma will be the protag of the DLC before it gets turned into a full sequel
>>721697865>with no explanationwalk into this area again and watch what the glowing bugs doThat said this area is frustrating even if you know what you're doing do to some bullshit ghost spawn, and honestly unforgivable bottomless pits (which, sometimes you will be "directed" into pits if you move too fast)
I thought the game was going to kill Sherma off because of his naivete.
>>721698349I could see one saying "On what axis is HK better" but you're right it's a curious turn of phrase.
>>721698189But the bilewater opening into the ducts is broken from the bilewater side.
>>721698349I'm not english, for me it makes sense. All games are Stand Power graphs with multiple axises sticking out, each from 0 to 10. Graphics is axis, music is axis etc etc.
Why do people give Lace and Hornet romantic undertones when in game Hornet is like "I honestly hate you but I pity your existence enough to save you from being consumed by the void at least." and Lace sees Hornet only as a way to get jabs in on her Mom.
Can Team Cherry stop dicking around and give us actual pale king lore. Whether about wyrmkind or him as a person. I know those aussie fucks were jerking themselves off when the only mention of him was at the end of the game
>>721697865It's the Lost Woods copy #254. Once you noticed the repeating rooms, you know there's a gimmick. The moths are blatantly telegraphed as you enter the area. It's not that obscure.
>>721698375I ABSOLUTELY did. Wtf do you mean>savage beastflyUsed thread storm a lot>nylethExtremely safe especially with cross stitch. Yes, you can parry her pollen.>Lost Lace100%, it was the only way I could win that fight. Running away she would teleport and deal contact damage.>cogwork dancersYou havin' a giggle?>last judgeo yer gigglinLast judge does have a punish for getting close but it's like on one move iirc (spinning)
>>721698437Same. It wasn't until after the whiteward quest that I started thinking he was probably going to live.
>>721698437They definitely set him up as a foil to Myla so I kept expecting him to get thwacked.
>>721698485
>>721698509Easy, because game has tumblr tranny fandom
>>721698294>>721698341I was just exhausted by the time I saw that there was a locked final act and said "fuck this." I'll take your guys' word and probably unlock it at a later date. I only play one game at a time and right now I'm a Japanese school girl beating up the patriarchy with a pipe. It also kinda sucks but the atmosphere is cool.
>>721690614An extra blue tool slot.I want to experiment more, I'm bored of Fractured Mask, Longclaw and Injector Band being permanently equipped.
>>721698413oh right, I forgot you can get slab'd in act 1
>>721698437 It’s the opposite. His Naiveté was plot armor. Most of the possessed bugs are attacking what they view as Heretics. Thing is, Sherma isn’t a faker. His devotion is real. While any other bug, including Hornet, is an attack on sight by bugs like Judges little Sherma was able to greet them. When the cathedral was new it was meant to be a place to farm devotion in order to spin the magic keeping GMS sealed. The bugs guarding the shithole are still trying to enforce a fucked sense of devotion.
>>721698543bro by agressive i mean pogoing them to death, not standin in neutral and throwing punches with occasional spell. This is how both me and the "wait for pattern" guy play too.
>>721698509Two women interacting? That's yuri.
>>721698629I run at enemies and attack them, I don't stand still like I think you must be doing. Do you even know that you can dash attack? And what do you think I did with Nyleth?
>>721698509Shipping doesn't make sense.
>>721698413Interesting, so wisp thicker is the only way to enter the citadel without triggering act 2. But hypothetically if you don’t fought the 2 “this triggers act 2” zones, you may still be able to trigger the GMS fight in act 1.
Steel Soul scares me but I want to do itDo the dreams/heart bosses count as game overs if you die? The re-fights in the first game didn't count
>>721698629>>721698673btw this is why I say "only Seth is a wait and attack boss"Seth guards from all aggression and will not allow you to attack until he attacks. No other boss is like this. Karmelita also blocks but only sometimes.
>>721698619 This is probably why it took Sherma as far into the Cathedral as the fuckin White Wards to finally find something so far gone it would attack him.
>>721698697the wisp thicket just takes you through the underworks as usual, you don't skip act 2
Okay beyond Lost Lace's teleport being kind of AIDS at times it was actually a pretty fun fight, I didn't even realize I didn't even use any tools until it was all over. Kino ending too, really good game overall.
>>721698673yes i know, we too run back, do run attack, maybe bust a silknut, and run back again. Or double jump stall. Have you never seen how bluntly knight could face wall into half the bosses, pinning THEM into the corner? Or how some players infinite pogo off beast fly to reach the ceiling? Parry EVERY Lace attack? Now THAT'S agressive. Sprinting is not
>>721698781>over here living my life>lace is drowning in the background>this ain't about her
>>721698752They didn't attack him though, he was fine until the sinner arrived.
>>721697919Did my bro really say "tools don't make the game easier" "they only deal chip damage"?
I don't care how it fucks up lore or continuation, I want TC to give us an official adult ghost design
>>721698781you weren't disappointed by Lace 3 being the true final boss? huh
>>721698812What is aggression to you if not "running at and attacking the enemy"?You've gone from>you just wait and attackto>you just stand neutralto>running at the enemy is not aggressiveRetard, kys
>>721698780The underworks isn’t what triggers the act 2 cinematic on the last judge side though. It’s the bridge. What I’m trying to figure out is whether you can beat gms without entering the two trigger rooms by ascending through wisp thicket.
>>721698895by "wait and attack" they meant "if you pogo during their neutral/attacks you will still land a hit but take damage, so forced to look for hard defined windows" not "stand in the middle of the room and wait for the boss to come"
>>721698885Nah because lace 2 was one of the best fights in the game up until that point.
>>721692714I pirated Hollow Knight expecting a shitty 2 hours game. I played Godhome the moment it was released.This game is one of the few I cared to buy not even halfway through
>>721697865>>721698160>sprawling spooky mystery place that's completely different from adjacent area>compass is useless>repeating scenery>if you get lucky after randomly going through you'll see fireflies leading to an exit>like 3 way of interacting with anything: attack, heal, sing>DUUUDE HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOWabsolutely lacking in adventuring spirit and experimental rigoursay you didn't like and move on, what a pathetic existence it is to justify everything by appealing to some vague tenets of "game design"
>>721698825 When we get there he is already pretty spooked because the room was already getting pretty sour. I took it as the room was already starting to move scheisty just as Hornet turns up instead. More of a “just in the nick of time”.
>>721698960That definitely is not what he meant>>721698113>Here's how to beat every SS boss>>Stand still>>Wait for tells>>Move slightly out of the way and punish
>>721698963Eeeh? Lace 2 is like one of those guys in the citadel, those who do silk storm. I found her extremely unremarkeable compared to first sinner and in general she doesn't gel well with game's combat.
>>721698921it does the trigger in choral chambers, where you get a cutscene and encounter Lace again
>>721698921Not through wisp thicket, no. You'd still have to come out of the underworks the same way that the last judge route does.
You can apparently have Sherma in two locations if you never open that first door for him, even during act 3
>>721698885I did find it uninspired yes but the actual fight was at least challenging enough to make it mechanically interesting. I think my only issue is the teleport contact damage dice rolls it feels like you have sometimes which is more a general complaint I have with HKs combat system that I feel is exacerbating in Silksong with how much more aggressive you want to be on average. As far as the story itself goes the obvious yuribaiting with Hornet and Lace at the end was underwhelming with how little actual interaction they had but it was whatever, still a good game.
>>721698921from what I can gather entering any part of choral chambers triggers the act 2 cinematic (this seems to be what happens when you enter through phantom's chamber, too)
>>721690614alt costumes for each crest
>>721699028Yeah, but I believe it’s only in that one room in choral chambers. The one next to the Bellway. What I’m wondering is whether you can navigate to beat the game without touching that room.
>>721699047Sherma duping is highly dangerous and highly illegal
>>721692714bought it on release day cause it was my birthday and spent the next three weeks 100%ing it. i should go back and replay it honestly, i missed all the dlc.
>>721697498>Das ForumHey wait a minute, that's us!
>>721699009he definitely meant by "try to have fun" "try to pogo/dash on boss" "take damage cause boss slightly moved into you" and especially the Lace 3 teleporting into you for running. And all the flyers who always orbit you till it's time to attack so it's impossible to catch up to them.
Insider here, the first DLC is called "Lace's Story". You play the game as Lace and start in the Choral Chambers and you hunt Hornet throughout the game
>>721698527Maybe I would have noticed if there wasn't the fog and ghosts chasing me everywhere. All I wanted was an NPC at the entrance saying something that would tell you what to do like picrel. This would literally fix everything.
>>721698819This was all about her what sho mean
>>721699089nohttps://youtu.be/c3L_f9l7GXc?t=264
>>721699074See >>721697095 they get into choral chambers and don’t immediately trigger the act 2 cutscene.
>>721699057the actual fight is literally lace 2 but with some garbage environmental extras, she doesn't even have new attacks, just obstacle adds
>>721699169this has to be bait or you genuinely have sub 80 iq. either way you’re still retarded for posting that.
>>721699150Lace teleport is only dangerous if you run away, not if you go after her.Going after her is fine. But if you try to sneak a heal she'll teleport behind you or, if it's phase 2/3 teleport into the air. The air one is less likely thoughFor anything else you can pogo her, dash stab her, double jump or air stall and pogo her, or parry her.
>>721699169I mean your first mistake was running away from the ghosts for no reason
I FUCKING HATE FLEA JUGGLE AND DOGE
>>721699205They b line to the act 2 room though. Can you really not just climb the left half of choral chambers instead.
>>721699219The summon Void slime shit is at least 'new' to her albeit bog standard for the rest of act 3. It is a very uninspired choice for a final boss I agree but Lace already was a fun fight so it's not the worst. I think my bigger issue is how many bosses especially in Act 3 just felt so boring in general, like the Coral guy and Nyleth are just terribly one-note.
Can't you actually go through the Mist by ear since the organ gets louder as you progress?
>>721699357Nah. You need the butterflies. I know that 2 of the rooms have predetermined solutions though.
Lmao the coral tower guy is an easier version of the laser guy from Hollow knight. End game silk song bosses are worse than normal bosses from the previous game, how will SSfags ever recover?
>>721699290Flea juggle is super easy.Stay on the ground, use Shaman's crest and longclaw.With Flea dodge you're just fucked lmao
>>721699357if you take a wrong exit your "correct room" number resets, but technically yes; if you randomly guess and the organ gets louder, congrats you got it right
>>721699169>>721699250this seems like bait BUTI will say one thingThe game does NOT ever properly explain to you that using the needolin is kind of "always an option". In the needolin tutorial, it is only shown to open doors. You have to experiment with it, and I don't necessarily think that experimenting with it is super obvious. Honestly, especially with the lumaflies. The lumaflies in the first screen guide you without the needolin, but every other time they move it is only to music and they otherwise just stay still. The game actually does NOT hint in any way that playing the needolin near them will guide you.>Lace conducts Lumaflies with song though1. Lace is skippable2. When you see her conducting them in game, they are not guiding her but are instead stillIMO, the game should have told you or showed you that using the needolin is a rather versatile thing.
>>721699342I love the coral guy he actually feels well designed unlike 90% of the game. But in my opinion all enemies and bosses SHOULD be one note and then combined in interesting ways in level design, not the "magic greatsword teleport guy who transforms into random animals and is also capable of throwing random bullshit" elden ring and silksong insist on. Also Khan starts off slow enough that you will definitely have possibility of one trying him, which is GREAT considering the runback.
>>721699169Totally out of character. Sherma would let his faith guide him through.
>>721692714I originally dropped it (through no fault of its own, just a combination of other anime/games eating up all my time).Silksong was a good reason to pick it back up and finish it.
>>721699169There is no way in hell this is supposed to be serious.
>>721699506>The game does NOT ever properly explain to you that using the needolin is kind of "always an option".Dude it's announced to you the exact same way as the other upgrades, spells, etc.
>>721699446Khann needs a buff desu.
>>721699290juggle is the only one I could beat Seth at. Everything else feels too random>>721699219It's not Lace 2. Lace 2 is fun as fuck because with stuff like her dash attacks you can consistently dash attack parry them and it's sick as shit. In Lace 3 she has AOE damage coming out of her ass so if you try it doesn't work (very fun (not))She does add globs of void, a void tentacle attack, Judgement Cut End by Vergil from the Devil May Cry(tm) series, and void bullets in lace 3.
>>721699581nah the guy is right, but the issue itself is rather silly.
>just run around the entire pharloom with vague instructions to collect 6 boar asses for that sweet sweet +0.001% nail damageFuck off
>>721699485I thought it also got louder when you're standing next to the right exit but maybe I hallucinated that
>>721699506God the lumarlies part was so stupid>Oh so this is a maze>Oh so I have to follow the flies?>But sometimes the flies are both up and down at the same time?After wasting 30 minutes doing nothing you use the needolin out of despair
>>721699654no he doesn't. All other bosses need a nerf tho.
>>721699281I ran away from the ghosts because I kept dying to them and they home in on you. Dodging them is really hard.>>721699357Now they expect you to know to look for a sound? That's even dumber than the butterflies.>>721699250I'm just frustrated, okay? I spent all night after work doing this one thing because the game didn't say what to do. Now I gotta fight Phantom which is another super-hard boss and that'll just take me another night so forgive me if I'm pissed. I'm just gonna go to bed.
>>721699290In dodge you can often just treat it like a slightly harder version of the pogo minigame and stay in the air by bounding off of the fleas coming for you which will cause 90% of them to miss you by default because you're not supposed to be at the top of the screen
>>721699506NTAs but my issue with the Needolin is it just doesn't feel as versatile or interesting as the Dream Nail. In HK the Dream Nail once you get it both offers access to lore, new fights and mechanically is a good way to get extra Soul easily. The Needolin meanwhile requires both Silksong's soul equivalent and doesn't offer any other benefits in combat beyond very briefly stunning some enemies in a way that's not really practical to use most of the time. On top of that there's many cases I felt like where I had to play the Needolin for dialogue, then have it awkwardly cut out since I didn't have enough silk, and then had to stand around until it recharged. It feels so oddly undercooked as a mechanic for a thing with a whole button dedicated to it.
>>721699357>>721699357 The Mist ends if you can get 7 “Correct door” points accrued without ever having more than 3 “Wrong door” points. If you get 3 Wrong points, your correct point tally resets. The final Mist exit has to be a right side exit to whichever room it becomes available in.
>>721699621>Play ancient melodies by stringing Silk along the needle. Silk will be expended. Strike enemies to replenish Silk.That's all it tells you. It shows you it opens doors and nothing more.I played Hollow Knight so I assumed it also had Dream Nail functions and was proven right, but only randomly guessed it would work on Lumaflies. The game doesn't suggest Needolin or music will move the flies.
Real bait hours.
doing some easy puzzle platforming section gives the same reward as:>paying 500 beads and doing an arena with two phases and a miniboss>a full boss fight>delicate flower 2>masochist platforming section in an area way out of the way with probably one of the hardest individual jumps in the gamewhat did they mean by this
>>721699741One thing that FUCKING pisses me off about the Needolin is that it doesn't work on enemies consistently.It fucking just should for how little it aids you in combat. Even trying is punished in many cases. Did you know it works on the Watcher at the Edge--but only gives his thoughts and it won't paralyze him? It's so fucking stupid.
>>721699057I liked GMS a lot more as a boss fight. I think a suped-up version of her would've been better. Lace was pretty difficult both encounters, while GMS was super easy and desperately needed a harder version.
>>721699779That getting a nail upgrade halfway through act 2 was a freebie, same as the one you get from Bellhart in act 1?
>>721699748so how lucky was I mathemtically speaking when I brute forced the mist
>>721699779the meaning: you've been trolled
>>721699662wasn't judgement cut in lace 2 too? The void attacks i don't consider part of her kit as she literally doesn't have animations for them. She isn't puttin on a symbiote, syymbiote is cooperating from behind the screen. So lazy AF boss to create, vergil 3 mw had actual new animations playing.
>>721699779>Upgrade 1 is easier than upgrade 2 which is easier than upgrade 3>What did they mean by this?
>>721699721>dodging them is hardLiterally just stand on place and jump and you dodge them
>>721699741Needolin using silk will always be the most stupid shit>Words words*Breaks*>Word words*Breaks*>Words wordsOk
>>721699851>wasn't judgement cut in lace 2 too?Yes, but not Judgement Cut End, that one is new.I think?I could be forgetting desu it's been a long fucking time. I know she added judgement cut bubbles in Lace 2 but dunno if she had the giant cutscene attack (if you're caught).Also yes Lace is not Vergil, though I think the inspirations are clear. She doesn't bring nearly as much badass energy as Vergil 3.
>>721698136don't EVER say this again. my wife is perfect and i won't stand for your slander
>>721699837if you died to a boss once you can not call it easy. GMS is perfect ds3 tier difficulty, she actually felt nice to beat.
>>721699676wtf are you talking aboutDo you mean the Huntress's quest? That one is a little vague, but it's a lot more than 6 things you need
What kind of bug is groal?
>>721699920This is fair and I agree with you completely.
>>721699978I think she would make for a good waifu for ghost
>>721699506>You have to experiment with itWhich is based, and I never stopped doing that since the 1998s when I played my first video game.Stop being a gen alpha shitter and PRESS BUTTONS AND SEE WHAT THEY DO NIGGER
Imagining struggling to the ghosts of all things.You stand still, jump over their rush, get in an easy pogo. You do this four times and they're dead. I've taken more damage from the guys that moan while crawling on the ground than I did the ghosts.
>lost lacewhat a fucking shit fight this islazy rehash of lace aside, who the fuck thought "yeah so for the last phase let's just put 10000 black particle effects on screen over a black boss on a black background that uses black attacks" and then who looked at that and said "yeah that's good ship it"fuck you
how hard is steel soul?
>>721699841 Wildly unpredictable. There are 8 possible room layouts, some with odd numbers of exits. Exits have to respect each other spatially so leave out the top of one mist tile means coming up from the bottom of another. At 3 points the mist will give you the halfway hallway, which always connects to a right or left exit. Never up or down. The hall itself counts as two correct doors, which would mean just leaving the halfway hall puts the score to 5 correct out of 7. Final door to leave is a slave to right side exits, so bad mist RNG can for example give you an extra room by generating a room with no right exit the same room you first reach 7 correct points.
>>721700032Youre overreacting
>>721699978Your wife is retarded. And I know that's why you like her.
>>721699841Assuming they're right, which I don't think they are, and assuming I remember college combinatorics, which I don't trust - it'd be (1/3)^7 * (2/3)^2 * 7 * 2 * 36 = ~5%
>>721699920only worse idea is clawline using silk and shards being required to craft tools. Those two instantly made those into mandatory traveral only and elixir stash instead of part of a normal gameplay. Team Cherry just goes "well it doesn't work in any other game but SURELY it will work in our game!"
>>721699561That's fine too on its own and I get making him easier because he's before a long gauntlet. It's more an issue of the very weird difficulty scaling in Silksong at times especially in Act 3.>Khann and Nyleth are very one-note>Gay Prince is just Cogwork MK2>various other bosses are either stupidly simple or way more demanding than you'd expectKarmelita feels like the only one trying to be a proper endgame boss though she's brought down a bit by just being a fight after a basic bitch gauntlet with nothing else interesting to her area.
>>721699986Sure I can. The first time I fought GMS I got her to her final phase and only died from an off-screen needle and being unprepared. Second time I smoked her ass. She's EASY.
>>721700009Toadbug
>>721700075it's bad design, the only reason the boss is hitting me is because it's needlessly difficult to parse what the fuck is even happening. i can practically no-hit phases 1 and 2 but phase 3 just covers the screen in vomit and i can't see shit.
>>721700032it gets even worse if you use tools, cause then it's an epilepsy hazard and you legit can't see lace tells anymore
>>721700026All I'm asking is for the game to show you it has multiple uses instead of being a funny key, that's all.Also again even if you take that, the logic breaks because Lumaflies are shown in game to1. Guide you without music2. Be guided by song3. Not 2 because actually you explored too much and completely skipped the Lace boss fight, fuck youSo logically, you will not be inclined to play musicAnd yes I actually skipped Lace initially and didn't know she existed. After 10 hours I found her boss arena and was like "Hm this looks like a boss arena. Why?" and lo and behold I had accidentally skipped Lace. I did Phantom, not Lace
>>721700092>mandatory traveral onlyAnon... clawline pays itself back in combat.
>>721699748>The final Mist exit has to be a right side exit to whichever room it becomes available in.no it doesn't, that's only if you enter from Sinner's Roadif you enter from Bilewater it has to be Left
>>721700121le trick is stalling in the air for an attack that leaves her vulnerable. Yes it's another waiting game boss
Would having two needle upgrades instead of one in act 3 have been too much?I get that most of the complaints about the bosses having too much HP come from people that don't use their tools, but a part of me feels like it's disrespectful to use tools in some fights lol.
>>721700092I never really had an issue with the Clawline using silk but I've also been rocking Weavelight ever since I got it
>>721700059The same but you press start, exist game, before dying
>>721699779"Explore, nerd"What actually pisses me off about Act 2 is that a motherfucking silkheart is hidden behind a super easy boss that you can completely miss because the key is in one of the most obscured secret areas you can get past
>>721700078
>>721700204 You’re dead right. I forgot. I always end up getting there via Sinners so I guess I’ve developed a bias.
>>721700189clawline doesn't pay me 16 silk, and it does cost me two masks half the time cause it's another move with hitlag that offers no i-frames so if enemy is moving toward me i still take damage despite landing it.
>>721700309Skill issue.
>>721700256fucking this. Beat the game and went "wait where the fuck is the last silkheart" the "hel let's put fake walls and ceilings everywhere and not even hint it on our map" design is ASS
>>721700346yeah, skill issue on devs cause they had a perfectchain grapple move and decided to ruin it by making it extremely situational with their dumb hitstop decisions
>>721700218Not all tools are equally disrespectful.
>>721698895you can literally only do hit and runs and get maybe 1-2 hits in, and that is in reaction to the boss recovering from a moveyou're constantly playing reactively against the bosses. aggression is getting to do stuff while the boss has to deal with it.
>>721700309Clawline is really good in combat, better than dash attack most of the time because of how fast it is. And it can follow up with another attack or a pogo depending on what crest you use. You should experiment with it, it's really game changing
>>721700097There is a WEIRD difficulty curve>Pre-Dash is brutal and BORING>Post-Dash is mega easy until Moorwing and/or Savage Beastfly>Then it's easy again until Widow>The rest of act 1 keeps about the same difficulty level, assuming you take Judge's route>Citadel, Sinner's Road and Bilewater are all a nice little step up from act 1's difficulty. Slab and Mount Fey are a challenge but nothing crazy>except it ends on a wet fart, Grandmother silk is a complete joke unless you deliberately go for the weird ending>Act 3 is really hard for the first hour>Then it's complete baby mode difficulty for literally everything outside of Seth, Karmelita, the Coral gauntlet, and the final boss
>>721700092Clawline is fine. I even like the limitation.Shell shards is...oddI don't really mind. It only became and issue for me twice. But, if I were heavily using tools I know from those 2 times that it is a very annoying limitation
https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/427bros, we're getting there
>>721700309You can literally clawline into spikes. I can believe getting hit out of it every now and then. But I don't see how this could be a consistent issue.
>>721699330From what the video shows, Act 2 triggered at the X, not the far room next to the bellway.
>>721700121It's gay but most of the final boss is dodging and waiting. I beat her twice already. The second time was needle only, no tools or silk skills. Don't get greedy, she is VERY tanky. Also use Wanderer for the faster hits, this is a speed test. Reaper and Shaman are the "You lose" crests here.
>>721692714According to my purchase history, I bought hollow knight on 31st of december 2017. For some reason I remembered buying it not long after release, but it was undoubtedly here on /v/ I learned of the game (when it was still known as 2D dark souls). Would've been similar with godhome, not playing immediately but also not too long after release.
>>721700492I assume this is a boobs mod
>>721700353It's fine a lot of the time, and a sometimes it's complete cancer. When I discovered the secret area in the Far Fields station at that point I was like "okay, secrets are everywhere", but even if you know that you can come across quite a few areas behind things that don't look breakable or are up in the ceiling with no visual clues>>721700434>you can literally only doYou really didn't try with this game.>rush>pogo>avoid if you need to avoid (god forbid?)>pogo>dash down>rush>pogoetc
>you can cross stitch Karmelitas boomerangsGod I fucking love this skill
>>721700574sort of not reallt
The fuck, who's triggered so badly by Silksong to post THAT? Fucking putrid, hope that nonce hangs.
>>721700434>aggression is getting to do stuff while the boss has to deal with it.No it is not, that doesn't make any sense.You're thinking of pressure, not aggression. Being aggressive means going at something actively. Pressure means that while you're doing that the counter is locked down.fwiw I also think this is why Hollow Knight is not fun to play, as the Knight's gameplay is mashy (attack mashy or skill mashy) with little punishment. It feels like it's for babies.
>>721700443I agree it feels like a very schizophrenic difficulty curve at times. I think a lot of the early game complaints are mostly shitters but the one complaint I do have is that it's very weird how few mask shards are available early on. I think getting even 2 extra masks by Last Judge would be hard for anyone on their first playthrough not pixel hunting everything if even 1. Act 2 felt mostly smooth, but then in Act 3 it feels like a lot of bosses who should've appeared earlier are only now just littering the overworld. The outcast skarr guy is a good example, that was a nice build-up and surprise but I accidentally facetanked him without even trying to death before even feeling like I was getting into the fight.
>>721700448Shell shards are a way to give enemies a reward that isn't rosaries and isn't lost on death, as well as placing a natural restriction on how often you can be relying on your ranged weapons. Look at it like missile ammo in Metroid, just more fungible. By the time you're really pouring out shards you can usually hold 600+ and have enough rosaries to buy shard bundles by the dozen
>start act 3>pavo no longer sings his silly song
>>721700679i prefer drawn asians
>>721700634
>>721700443On top of being a comedown from Lace 2, GMS is deliberately an anticlimax. They want the player to feel like that wasn't the ending and search for Act 3.
>>721700218Did you feel like the Act 3 bosses really had too much HP? More like I wish they didn't come with gauntlets stapled to them.
>>721700638 Don’t make it so obvious you’re new. Bad habit.
>>721700092>only worse idea is clawline using silkYou get it back on hit.>shards being required to craft tools.Never had a problem with shards.
>>721700492https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/277apparently this mod lets you play as naked Hornet. If I understood correctly, Nude Hornet is just a crest of it's own, so enabling switching to it changes you to the naked sprite.
>>721700528Damn.
>>721700638I can't tell if that was actual CP or just a really petite asian girl, it's actually been a while since I saw someone so mad on 4kek that someone spammed CP in a thread
>>721700696Shards needed a magnet like Rosaries do, they also go flying everywhere.
>>721700696sure but it's a waste of time if you ever truly spam toolsIf you use tools sparingly (most players, I imagine) it's fine unless you want to use them against a difficult boss. That's when you start questioning the system.
>>721700765I felt like they were fine with modest tool usage (in gauntlet included),
>>721700824Come on. Dice are better than weighted belt.
>>721700824Is the conch horn a meme? It can get multiple hits and with a good angle it feels really good.
>>721700806They don't want you to spam tools! If enemies in mandatory gauntlets/bosses dropped shards I feel like that'd relieve what little friction is excessive.
>>721700765Only Karmelita. I have no idea why such a nimble and agressive boss has what, the third highest HP in the game? It felt like her and Nyleth's health bars got swapped around, as a joke.
>>721700824>conchcutter>meme
>>721700669I can tell you I only had 3 shards by the time I was at Judge, so not even 1 extra mask. All of the extra masks I found during act 2.
>Equip Beast Crest.>Drill Dive gadget costs nothing when spent on non enemy pogo, including spikes. Gee Hornet, why did Hera let you have TWO pogo attacks?
so which is the best of the guns? I heard it's between the mt. fay one and forge daughter's
>>721700889what's the rate on it activating?
>>721700889Dice are nice but inconsistent. The weighted belt consistently makes a lot of bosses a complete joke, especially with Hunter or Wanderer.It's far and away the best yellow.
>>721700824This is a cowardly tierlistAlso the phial reminded me of the stake driver and I wish the game had a Stake Driver. It took a lot from Bloodborne, so why not that?>>721700908Eh, you might want to on some bosses and I don't blame you if so. Trobbio (both types) is quite a fag for instance, and can be hard to dral with for people.
>>721700824I'm collecting all the tools I missed and I was reading the wiki about the memory crystal always does 20 damage no matter the tool level but the damage multiplier is still based on tool level. Isn't this insanely bad? Since every single enemy (except one) has a decreasing multiplier the higher the tool level, it just does less damage the further you progress, unless the wiki is wrong
>>721700959Mt. Fay is definitely cooler, but all of them are pretty meh anyways
>>721700959One has piercing, the other more ammo
>>721700824*Ahem* https://youtu.be/iCh_OGarwtM
>>721701000NTA dice saved me too many times to count. I love them.
>>721700986I dunno the exact numbers but it feels like it's not at all uncommon to get at least one proc per boss attempt
>>721700891>>721700920inconsistent and doesn't do enough damage >>721701010it's seriously that low?
>>721700959mt fayHard to fuck up with a powerful laser that goes offscreen and pierces enemies
>>721700986Starts at 0 then every time you get hit, it goes to 1/99, 2/99 etc. to a max of 10/99
>>721700891No it's great. People talk up the boomerang, and it is good. But, at least in my experience, conchcutter is way more consistent at actually getting multihits and shredding things.
>>721701060Actually just another "wanderer is busted" video
>>721701000 The Dice are just the Careless Whisper from game 1 but now it competes against worse charms. Technically, they are more effective than the Careless Whisper charm was. The proc rate is 2% to start, but climbs 2% up to a maximum of 10% every hit you take where it doesn’t happen.
>>721700952Wait, what do you mean by "free", it doesn't count down the tool ammo if you pogo stuff like flowers in shellwood?
>>721700889Dice are better than a lot of blue tools.
>>721701060I think this thing should've just been an optional upgrade to hornet's base moveset rather than a tool
>>721701187does the chance reset once it happens?
I beat trobbio
>>721690614Bell Beast Armor DLC
>>721701236Yes
>>721701218>>721701218Yeh. I’m seeing 0 shard spend bouncing on flower buds. Only seems to cost if I hit a foe or a foes projectile. It also pogos an interesting number of projectiles.
>>721701249Only if you didn't use wanderer
>>721701370only crest I have right now is the default and reaper
>>721699837She only existed to be a fakeout final boss kinda like a "we got radiance at home"
>>721699169Sherma would have walked through the mist humming a tune not seeing anything while the wraiths formed a bridge to direct him towards Organ exhaust, Phantom would invite him to lunch and then tell him he's supposed to enter the other way around, which he'll happily agree to and walk back to Greymoor
>>721701465Anon you have to explore and backtrack...And talk with Eva after that to unlock more tool slots
>>721701551you forgot the phantom x sherma ss
Drink the lifeblood, goyim
>sometimes GMS just fills the screen with horizontal silk and that's it, enjoy the grab lmaoMan it fucking sucks needing to double jump before floating, even the lightest tap fucks you up sometimes. Still, I did it and ruined everything too. Cthulhu fhtagnI'll hunt some fleas and get ready for act 3 tomorrow
>sings to open the door>It does nothing >Hornet sings to open the door>It opens many of themHave you considered Hornet is a mary sue?
>>721701706Infinite regen? Don't mind if I do
>>721701706 It is incredibly telling that Lifeblood infection in Silksong is a dead ringer for Essence Infection in Hollow Knight. We got a Sun Moth, next will be a Lunar Butterfly.
>>721696550Gargle my balls. The Messenger is awesome.
>>721700824Poison plasmium sucks dick, what is this list on about?
>>721701792No, we've got whatever this mystery nigga is.
>>721701785>>sings to open the door>>It does nothingThe door literally opened though? Did you not play the game or something?
>>721690781you don't even need to have hornet be naked do for a fist based crestI know you are just a sleezy bug perv freak. don't deny itbeasts attacks with hornet's claws, if you watch her animations closely she doesn't swing the needle at all.So just copy the unarmed moveset and attack effects into a new crest.Crest of the Condemned or something.
>>721701785He gets through even if she doesn't open it. He even gets past the last judge without her help.The needolin is weak baby shit compared to Sherma.
>>721701847Anon...
>>721701785>sherma does nothing except look cute>the hero has to bend over backwards to make sure everything always goes sherma's waySherma is the mary sue (male)
>>721701785But it DID open for his prayers.Hornet just coincedentally hits some old levers right when his singing works.
>>721701747a mild tip: if you hold jump while harpooning, you will float at the end of it rather than double jumpI agree that double jump needing to happen before float is annoying
well, this got significantly easier when i had the idea to go turn down the particle effects and screen shake. turns out when the screen isn't 90% covered in black vomit and you can actually kinda see what's happening, the ""difficulty"" goes away. got her in two tries after that.overall a pretty lame final boss. p1 and p2 were piss easy, and then p3 had a lot of boring intermissions where you sit around twiddling your thumbs for like 15 seconds waiting for the waves to go by so you can actually engage with the boss again. hugely disappointing compared to radiance. and if your boss makes me go fiddle with graphics settings it's an automatic failing grade.wish the game just ended in act 2, honestly. put karmelita in there somewhere and literally nothing of value would be lost.
>>721701785Hornet never sings in this game
>>721701956Am I missing something? What good is a mask that just disintegrates right when you get it?And the stabbing animation takes a long time, so even if you make some kind of fart cloud attack, you're in harms way doing so.
Poison Pollip is a scrub trap meant to eat your charm slots. All of the gadgets that utilize poison the best are already considered top preforming charms even without he Poison Pollip considered yet. The actual damage it adds tends to be inconsistent once early game is over.
>>721692304>The fact that you are vulnerable THE ENTIRE DURATION of it and that landing it puts you into hitstop, but not the enemy/gear you are hitting is a devastating combo of retarded design that makes the pogo useless in 90% of situations.Archetect is the absolute fucking worst for this shit.It is really quite arse, though drill [pogo does hit twice (yet only gens 1 silk band. thank TC. way to fucking play test the game. same for needing a patch 3weeks out to let charge attacks gain silk. bravo.)The game is just a mess of half made ideas, for supposedly 7 years of passionate work.Very baffling.
>>721701886 That is gonna turn out to be a stupid butterfly. Radiance was a light aligned sun moth. This will be a void aligned moon butterfly.
>>721702105>Am I missing something?Yes. There aren't any poison tools on that list other than the pouch itself.
>>721702116This. The electricity is way better.Volt'd silk storms make a joke out of most of coral tower.
>>721701972He only needs Hornet's help a single time.
Why does it seem like people either love or hate act 3? You don't really hear any opinion in the middle.
>>721702158wait, they made charge attacks give silk? guess my second playthough is gonna be a tool-less architect run where i spam giga drill breaker
>>721702185Oh. Then what's that purple thing in the very top? I thought it was the poisoned vial, but now that you said something I see it is a little different.
>>721701972>the hero has to bend over backwards to make sure everything always goes sherma's wayHot...
>>721702218because it's pretty objectively shit, so it's very hard to find anyone who both made it that far and is so detached from the game they genuinely don't care if it's shit or not. the people who love it are simply contrarians, and those are never in short supply.
>>721702186 It is quite literally the difference between:>Do you wanna do an extra 4 ish damage per tool strike over 2 seconds?>Do you want to modify the base damage value of all your spells?
>>721702218Because at the end of act 2 when the game slows down as you get the three melodies, players are either excited for it to end or excited to see what happens next. One of them wonders why there's another 15 hours of bullshit and one is greeted with something halfway between a NG+ victory lap and dracula's inverted castle.
>>721702218people that like the game and are happy to have a more complex version of it that greatly enhances the storyvspeople that don't like the game and are upset that it gets more complex and some part of them has to get the 'true' ending before they can say they've finished the game
>>721702270only THE SINGLE COOLEST SUBWEAPON IN THE gameya dumbo
>>721702218it was ok but a bit phoned inthe reqs to reach it are gay
>>721700059Easier than playing normally because quitting out is ALWAYS better than dying.
>>721702270It's an electric weapon that either puts out projectile novas or lets you lay down laser beam emitters
>>721702218I didn't hate it, and I can't say I loved it. I did like it, the only thing I don't like is that Lace isn't great, the Final Boss isn't great, and the ending is a biiiit "meh".There's a lot of strong moments in act 3 and I love the idea of the world falling apart due to your own actions. I like voided enemies and I enjoyed not skipping shit and instead walking my way back to the start of the game from the end of it.It's also not lazily done by the whole, and I think anyone who says that has no fucking clue what they're talking about. They confuse me as people
Didn't even notice the butterflies or fireflies or whatever they are fly out of his eyes the first time I did him, I knew people were saying he had a lot of voices in him
>>721697865>filled with the most difficult enemies in the gameLol>>How were you supposed to know you were supposed to play the stupid needolin that you never use to tiny, almost unnoticeable butterfly things that are apart of the background AND know that you were supposed to follow them? Well you just have to read the game designers mind, of course!i legitimately have an IQ of 89 (verified with an IQ test for ADHD) and within 20 mins i figured out that the trick had something to do with the butterflies, and it took me another 10 mins to actually use the needolin
>>721690614we've seen>ant themed area>bee themed area>cockroach themed area>mantis themed area>urchin themed area>yabby themed area>fly themed area>spider themed area>flea civilization>smail civilization >moth civilizationi want a scorpion area.
so what *are* the butterfly things? just another form of silk?
>>721702427 We need Aztec Scorpions.
>>721702463Extracted souls
>>721702463They are what happens to souls spun into silk. They’re dead bugs.
>>721702463Bug souls trapped with horrific silk science.
>>721702313And I went through the entire game without knowing about it....
>>721702497you reminded me: I got 100% but did not get all of these so I guess they don't counthuh
>>721697201radiance's special younger brother.
>>721702497>>721702521>>721702539ok, so why are they guiding Horent around? or is it that they're just around everywhere and it's coincidence
>>721702059Using the harpoon instead of jumping to dodge the horizontal scissors was an idea I considered but dropped really quickly once she pulled some rocks behind her, moved back and did the scissors move.I also forgot to mention how much I've come to appreciate the harpoon on this fight, you can basically stay on top of her 90% of the time (you have to drop down sometimes to dodge some stuff after all) scoring damage and stuns nonstop, it's amazing.
>>721702543It's Act 3 only, if that makes you feel better
>>721702404I didn't even know there was a bomb up there
>>721702545Most of the fluff stuff doesn’t have a % impact.
>>721692504 >>721693927 >>721693996 >>721694063 >>721695943Chronic dilator moment.
>>721702570Harpoon is incredible, and I only don't use it much because hundreds of other games have forced "press dodge to dodge" into me.
>>721702427I mean, technically we have it. Scorpions are arachnids, so a type of spider
>>721702562 You are a Pale Being, in part. They can probably sense your godhood. They probably regret what has become of them and want GMS gone.
>>721702218Act 3 has Khaan and Karmelita, and for that people will love it no matter how bad the rest is.
>>721702575It isn't actually, I found it and I'm still not on 3
>>721702575There's barely anything worth testing out act 3 goodies on.Karmelita and LL are nice fights that feel like cheating using it against.Seth and Pinstress are faggots that teleports and blocks all the time.And almost everybody else is easy as shit and don't need tools to beat.So I guess that leaves Voided Garmond as your tool dummy, because his fight sucks dick but is also over fast.
>>721702575I got it in act 2.
>>721699057Just because trannies keep regurgitating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true.
>>721702218i dunno, i really struggle to see any positives in act 3. it's very clear that it was an afterthought where they just threw a bunch of cut content in and called it a day. it's narratively dissonant, the difficulty curve is schizophrenic, most of the bosses are really really bad (nyleth, khann, clover dancers, lost garmond, gurr, etc) and it ends on a disappointing wet fart of a final boss.if it even half lived up to the inverted castle it so clearly wanted to be, it would be amazing, but the game needed at least another year of dev time if they wanted to pull that off.i wish i knew what other people saw in it, because for me i just got bored halfway through the act and had to slowly chip away at it over the course of a week because it just wasn't interesting on any level and i could barely stand playing it for more than 30 minutes at a time.
>>721702545100% is:All CrestsAll AbilitiesAll MasksAll SpoolsAll Silk HeartsAll Silk SkillsAll Tool UpgradesAll the stuff from EvaAll Needle upgradesAll Toolsoh, and the flower
>>721697865nigga use the needolin on everything.
>>721702704Right, right. I confused it with another thing that I won't spoil you on.
>>721702759>>721702759>>721702759
>>721702218The replies to this post are schizophrenically all over the place
>>721693528How in the fuck do you do flea juggle?This shit is mad ass.Dodge is tolerable and bounce is easy as fuck.juggle is just aids.
>>721702232They reduced the damage of charged architect attack, it's does 5 instances of 13 dmg instead of 7, still one of the strongest but not as insane as it was before
>>721702925Shaman's crest, Longclaw, stay on the ground. It's easy.
>>721692714I actively avoided playing Hollow Knight back then because it looked like a flash game and Valdis Story completely put me off to metroidvanias with similar visual aesthetics and gameplay.I still won't play Hollow Knight, by the way. Last time I did, I really didn't like how it felt to move around to pogo.
>>721702562The mist is properly haunted in the conventional sense. I don't know if they're leftovers from feeding Phantom or cast off souls make up part of the exhaust of the exhaust organ. But either way, they've been concentrated there. And I can think of two reasons they'd help. If they have any will of their own then they may want to help Hornet to stop the kingdom that put them in that state. But they may also just be compelled by the needolin like how it can stun corporeal bugs and compel singing.
>>721701785>Sherma worships the pale weavers>hornet is a pale being and a weaver>sherma's prays for a pale weaver to open the door and she does.what more could he want.
>>721702979hollow knight starts to play a lot smoother once you get a few upgrades but people tend to overhype it. Silksong is better in every way imo
>>721703039>what more could he want.
>>721695076thy are quite fun yes.
>>721700021>>721699978Your wife is getting dragged back to Hallownest to be bred by Ghost by Hornet and its a shame Phantom isn't also coming.
>>721703301>>721700021>mesugaki silk loli and kuudere void shotait's peak
>>721703098That's what I've heard. Honestly, even though I just said I won't play Hollow Knight (again), I might just for the lore.
>>721692376>platforming and that's where the true horror liesPlease I'm fucking begging you people, go play at least one (1) real 2D platform game.
>>721702681What's wrong with Nyleth
>>721697201BIRB!CUTEUTE
>>721700824In an encloarena the poisoned conchcutter is fucking hilarious.Give it a go against the Crawfather.Turns the arena into a Zyklon-B'rena, and these doors aren't wooden.
I think my only complaint with the game is that getting all 4 hearts doesn't change anything and that enemies in combat arenas don't drop any shards or rosaries. The latter is probably the only thing I really, really want them to change. Great game. Need a fat tits hornet mod that affects slab and her body when you use the umbrella form etc.
>>721703443Oh shut the fuck up, don't pretend the platforming in Silksong is easy 100%.I've played plenty of "real" 2D platform games. It's my favorite genre. Silksong is close to Dustforce in terms of style, though obviously not as speed focused.Honestly you probably (and I mean that literally, it is probable that you) don't know what Dustforce even is, but have the weird gumption to pretend the platforming in Silksong is easy breezy all the way through.
>>721703529It either dies in 45 seconds first try or you spend an hour fucking up the fight. No one had a normal time against Nyleth
>>721697215>beat seth's bounce score first tryha.faggotI refuse to do any others though.>55 juggle>if only fleas that's like 165 hits>fat cunt + big flea makes it far higherfuck off TC
>>721701886I could see it being a blue morpho.
>>721703579Nta, i don't really play any platformers, and i didn't think the platforming here was That hard. Honestly the abyss was the only time I really struggled, and it's because the chasing lava stressed the fuck out of me
>>721703529It's a fun fight, but it doesn't have the same presentation as the other two. Khaan was easy but he had great music and a fun rhythm, and Karmelita just had great choreography and music.
>>721695992>Trobbio (forma blanca)?
>>721703529>boring>one-note>piss easy once you figure out the intended strategy
>>721697925>Rageboundwho?i can't recall this fag.
>>721697945I seriously can't believe you fags are so bad you get filtered by Seth of all people.Literally just move away and dash.He is very fucking simple.
>>721698752I'd argue more so that going to the White Ward broke Sherma, rather than the creatures that that far lost.Seeing all the medically forced tortures and traumas the Citadel permitted for their 'faith' began to have Sherma doubt his beliefs in the Citadel, thus start making things aggressive to him.
>>721699147...naked granny erotic....
>>721699290if you can't handle dodge you are just turbo shit.I'm sorry anon.
>>721702963tools are disabled during the flea games
>>721690107What kind of mentally ill axe wound faggot designed bilewater? How is this dogshit area fun?
>>721704919Sorry it was too difficult for you
>>721700824the fuck is that bone slingshot thing?same for the cloth covered bucket.
