They won btw>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passwordergDivested of: >>483809791
Marika coomposters, I respect you.
Official tier list 1. Bear claws 2. Throwing weapons 3. Perfume 1HKO spamming Rest is boring. That is all.
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How are your DLC messages doing, lads?
after trying deflect and guard counter late in the game i wanna focus on it on my next run. what weapon? solitude?
haha *attakcs you with infinite mp stamina and poise*
More marika coom posting pretty please.
>>483821638Not very good.I've opted to leave the helpful ones in front of the illusory walls. But, I guess, they're being lost among similar ones with higher ratings. As usual, joke messages get better ratings.Also, I don't want to sacrifice my more successful base game messages.
>>483821558I was shocked frenzy got Midra and the ageless untouchables or really anything at all. Bonus points: the fight was actually kino
St. Trina was actually warning us that Radahn was caging Miquella's willie.Only Radahn the Childscourge would be so evil as to cage Miquella. That is why the Tarnished must save Miquella and free his willie.Only the Tarnished understands that shotas and femboys should enjoy their willies! Let them use their willies freely and enjoy Josou Seme! Only the Tarnished understands equal love!
>>483821673>great spear frenzy user can't deal with humanoid NPC invaders
need build ideasgot most items in the game but suck at making unique feeling/fun builds
For 72 faith Light of miquella doesn't hit nearly as hard as I feel it should.
Is it true that Consort is an overused and not quite correct translation?
these threads are giving me a crush on marika wtf
>>483821675did you know you can just go to websites and look for porn specifically of her
Putrescent Knight and Messmer are the best bosses in this DLC. Bayle is fucking awful I do not get the appeal
Is ghostflame breath just a better ice breath?
>>483821918I tested it against a couple of enemies and decided it fucking blows ass. Thank god for giant golden arc.
Babe wake up new hostcel IQ test just dropped
>>483821945Don't, Godfrey has ensured she's looser than you could ever imagine.
>>483822043>smurfing and blasting viglets
>>483821865whats this supposed to mean man
Why do people dislike Gaius? I really enjoyed his fight. Granted I used the deflecting tear to fight him so his charge is a non issue/huge punish window.
>>483821638Only left twothey're ok I guess
>>483822060>sees a hot woman>starts thinking about other mensomething you want to share with the class, anon?
>>483821945Reminder that Marika sucked and fucked hundreds of men in the lands between
>>483821870Alchemist build - Perfume main hand, repeating crossbow in other handAnd no rolling sparks faggotry - only HONEST perfuming
>>483822198Does the deflecting tear have startup frames?
There is no Miquella cross that says "i adandon here my cock and balls" so you know he is still packin
>>483822256Basically instant.
>>483821943Should have been Champion in the western localization.
The fire knights are fucking niggers and made me switch to a bonk build just so I could explore the storehouse in peace
Does thiollier have a based death quote during MIquella's fight like Ansbach?
What's a fitting sword to put the new Carian AoW on for my weenie spellcaster? it'll be their first sword.
>>483822241God i wish i was one of them....
>>483822292why did i laugh
I found a cross that said he discarded his left arm but was there one where he discarded his right arm?
>>483822241awesome, one more won't be a problem then
>>483822338Bonk works fine on them, but so does any high poise damage attack or weapon art.
So why did Miquella have to hide Trina in such a wacky place?
what is bayle's lore exactly
>>483821996The lore behind bayle is cool, the character igon, the setting and buildup (dragon corpses litering the zone). Overall it's a boss with a ton of environmental storytelling, a very cool quest, and also base game lore (he's the reason placidusax is all fucked up).
>>483821848>shotak y s
What's a non shitty DLC weapon for a second run? Nothing related to str preferablyI was gonna try the Black steel Twinblade as sacred with faith but I'm not sure
>>483822445Sindri betrays him.
>>483821638they're doing okay
>>483822436Because the vibe was right there.
>>483822445he uhhh tried to dethrone placidusax or something so they beat each other up or something
>>483822445please refer to >>483810046
>>483822459>>483822445
>watching Quelaag yesterday trying to beat Radahn after 9 hours of falling with mimic tear, greatshield and all the cheese shit >she finally does beat it with sword lance abuse >starts talking about her thoughts on the DLC >some tranny comes out and says "it feels kind of shitty that the trans character (Miq) is depicted as manipulative and is actively tricking men (Radahn)">The majority of the chat agrees >Quelaag has to come up with cope to excuse this as to not anger the troons Then you have at the other side retards screeching that From is woke now and bends the knee to woke media for making a """""""trans"""""""" character the center of the DLC.It's always funny seeing shit like this. It only reinforces my views that giving a shit/bringing politics shit to muh vidya is retardation and that these people should kill themselves.
>>483822039I was expecting this thing to completely disintegrate something. Man was I so sad.
>>483822445He was jealous of how many heads Placidusax had.
>>483822445Sucker punched Placican'tspell, they injured each other, then Placid put out a hit on him and his brood in the form of dragon communion stuff.
>>483822519SINDRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>483822601placid u sax
>>483822424>dryleaf with cold infusionDoes that work well for most weapons? I dont really get how the scaling works with certain weapons and how it clashes with natural scalings etc if you apply different ones.
>>483822445First drake. Took issue with dragons coming into existence and single handedly tried to genocide them until placidusax barely managed to make him fuck off.
>>483822601ok but how did he ruin the lands betwee nor whatever anon was saying
hot take: Miquella was actually a good guy until he realized he can't fix anything unless he becomes a God
>>483822648I hate when my sax gets flaccid
>>483822060The tarnished can just use Radahn's rune on his dick so it's not a problem.
>>483822567>sword lance abuseelaborate. is sword lance OP? was about to go looking for it.
>>483822681i dont think thats a hot take i think thats literally what happens in the dlc, Miquella loses himself in the process of becoming a god
reminder that Miquella is an eternal child and not an adult trapped as a child
>>483822445he was jelly of Placidick's Elden Lord title, he went against him, they wounded each other and Bayle escapedAll drakes are actually Bayle's bloodline (descendants or just the same breed), and Placidick established the dragon communion to reward people for killing drakeniggers.
>>483822241All me btw
I LOVE BOTH OF MY MOTHERS IN LAW THEYRE THE BEST
>>483822681Not a hot take, it's just what objectively happened. Miquellas journey was about shedding the vestiges of his humanity and becoming a divine being with the will to do what was necessary in order to fix the world according to his personal values.
>>483822292Anon he left a cross that said he left his arm but he still has both of them...
>>483822817can i borrow one of them for like a night or two?
>>483822835please anon i was just making a joke...
>>483822835>I abandon here my arm>next time we see him he has more arms than is ordinaryWhat the fuck is his problem
It's crazy how good larger weapons are in the DLC compared to one handed weaponsStagger is so disgusting powerful
kek I just invaded Rellena's boss room and smoked the host
>>483822752It completely trivializes the Radahn fight if you pair it with a great shield, you can poke him and shield at the same time in the middle of his combo strings. She literally just turtled the whole fight and was able to beat it like that despite being a MASSIVE shitter.
>>483822986its weird because i felt the opposite in the base game lol.
>>483822681Miquella had the messiah complex, and he wanted to bring salvation through self-sacrifice. However, the process of sacrifice is gradual, and it goes wrong when he abandons his love. How can you hope to save the world, when you have no compassion?
>>483821328So just to set the record straight since Fextra hasn't been updated with Ymir's dialogue yet.The fingers were broken before Marika became a god and the Greater Will abandoned the world long ago.
Bruh Placidusax really said the Drakes are #NotLikeUs
>>483822961>abandon here my arm>(player picks up the skibidi fragment next to this)>(player brings his fragments to divine realm)>(twink manifests intact)Hmm
>>483822994I used that to beat Radahn :) (without summons)
>>483822772why is he so big then? he looks like a young adult in the radahn cutscene.
Would you still love your kids with Marika even if they turn out exceedingly cursed?
>>483822681>>483823013Didnt he think beforehand that abandoning his love and compassion was probably a bad idea and probably detrimental to whatever vision he originally had? I thought he was meant to be intelligent?
>>483822994That's just the standard shield poke tactic. Does Sword Lance bring anything new to the table, compared to other poke sticks?
>>483822567>It only reinforces my views that giving a shit/bringing politics shit to muh vidya is retardation and that these people should kill themselves.agreeI have no problem with Miquella though as far as "woke shit" goes, its not, he's a rebis, its all alchemy metaphors not "black man fucks your wife" like you know tv on average these days, carnival row comes to mind just had to get that arc in there didn't they. and american gods, and a whole bunch of other shit I forget, I prefer anime and god help me they're doing the same thing to that now too.
>>483823061They aren't. Drakes have 4 legs and the wings are part of the arm.Dragons have 2 legs 2 arms and 2 wings emerging from the back.
killed messmer and just spend an hour running around and exploring the area to the west of the dark castle shit. Man I really fucking hate this open world, none of this shit was worth looking at, nothing was worth killing, nothing was worth looking. I feel like i just wasted my time.
>>483823126because gods are all, often, pretty big in this (and all Souls) games. Even a child god is going to be as tall as a normal person.
>>483823141Yes, cursed or not they’re my kids. Only a complete nigger would hate their own kin for something they can’t control.
I beat the game
>>483821638getting there
>>483823184I'm going to eat your toenails btw
>>483822215I think it's the same anti-Marika fag that went around trying to convince the thread she was an adulteress and he turned to Godfrey/Marika shipping once they didn't work out. No idea what drives people to do this but there you go.
>>483822802Man, Placidusax is so fuckin cool
>>483823126The empyreans are all enormous. You can see miquella inside the cocoon in mohgs apartment, his arm is the length of your body.
>>483822930No, you comitted heresy with this joke. I have already informed our god Miquella, prepare yourself for his third "arm".
>>483822817I have fond memories of that one story where Marika spanks Renalla.
>>483823061Certified dragonboys? Certified pedophiles
>the way the heads are stuck to him it looks like bayle was trying to fleePlaci must have scared him shitless I can't imagine a drake trying to run
Who would win in a fight between ROTTED Radahn, Consort Radahn, and Prime Radahn
>>483823271Anon...Marika locked her omen kids in the sewers. Please don't call my wife a nigger.
>Miquella is le transWhere the fuck are the schizos getting this one from?
>>483823171he felt like he has to do this in order to cleanse himself from his mother's sins, but its not like he isnt conflicted, right before abandoning his love he abandons his doubts, he is dissasembling himself because he sees it as a necessary step.>>483823126well he discarded his cursed flesh and ascended into a divine form, which is what Miquella as an adult would look like
>>483823219wait till you reach the right/bottom-right of the dlc map lol
ng+ is utterly fucked and will ruin your experience with the dlc if you go in blind/without skibidis
Here's a non-coomer Marika post: Marika = America, and this explains what the fuck is going on with Empyreans.So, the point of the points in SotE is to take a shaman base (who are all female btw) and fuse them with the flesh of other people. They are, literally, melting pots of culture. From those fused forms, divinity emerges. That's why you can have other empyreans, because there are other ways to fuse flesh (the grafting, Rykard's bullshit, merging of blood with Mohg). It's also why so many of her children end up weird, especially those with Radagon - they're just the other things that have been shoved in the pot with Marika and Radagon, reborn from her womb.The entire thing is an analysis of how Marika (aka America) rebelled against the tyranny it faced but then proceeded to follow the exact same colonial policies at a later point - and also an analysis of what happens to forcefully integrated cultures - they repeat the process. Every one of Marika's children that we see is either a colonizer or subservient to one: Radahn took Caelid, Rykard colonized Gelmir, and we intervene in the midst of Miquella colonizing the shadowlands. Marika being worshipped like a god despite being subservient to some greater entity (that isn't even around) is reflective of the American population's adoration of its country despite mostly being nominally Christian - and being part of a state that reflects almost no real Christian values on a geopolitical level. The seduction theme employed refers to how America will step in to other country's conflicts, woo them, and then exploit the civil war for resources.
>>483823439cause they don't understand alchemy and think two beings sharing a body means "they're trans"
Any fun theories on who Messmer and Melina's father is?
>>483823278My pureblood knight brother
>>483823285I'm not fucking with you, that is one of the distinctions between drakes and dragons in elden ring. Placidusax / ancient dragons have wings that are their own limbs.Jagged peak drakes have wings that are part of their forelegs.
>>483823378Prime Radahn. I mean, it's in the name, retard
>>483823505mentally ill freak == trans checks out
>>483823519Godfrey
>>483823449Why would you go in without skeanureeves fragments?t. played the DLC at NG+7
>>483823519Some random guy
all the stupid scaling weapons in the dlc make me think they just want everyone to go SL 300+. Almost none of the DLC weapons are suitable for 150sl. And that sucks, since the moment you go to super high sl, half of the weapons become completely worthless.
>>483823449I played on NG+ at level 150 and it was fine.
>>483823504sorry bro but you lost me at non-coomer marika post
>>483823504Didn't read
>>483823542would a knight use a turkey leg
>Star-Eye Loterra>daughter to a noble of the Carian Royal Families. Loterra was born with only eye; Carian Astrolgers beset a glintstone jewel in the other that granted her vision of starlight. Inspired by her namesake, the great knight-sorceress Loretta, she took up sword sorcery and began her path to Carian Knighthood.
>>483823519Asexual reproduction ala Millicent from Malenia.Godfrey.Radagon before he split from Marika.
>>483823504Marika..Amarika..America..
>>483823718scaling is fine you're just autistic
>>483823519Me
>>483823718Sl restriction is a concept invented by the player base and has zero bearing on the game mechanics or how it was developed.
>>483822503You can make some weird shit work with this. Make it bleed and it scales B in dex. It can be a back up weapon for a weird arc/faith/dex build. Bleed spells + this weapon I suppose.
>just had enough of fighting malenia>collosal bleed, frost dagger>people with dlc gear>nah ill just kill you with waterfowl (now undodgable even with bloodhound step) or lungefine fuck it im burning the tree and then full cheese fuck this bitch. i'd burn down the haligtree WITH HER IN IT if it was an option at this point. 3 fucking days.
>>483823825Bravo George...
>>483823319Post it
>>483823182I only know it's good but don't know what it brings new to the table as I don't play with lances ever. So another anon might be better suited to answer that question.
>>483823542>>483823278Sell me on the club, why is it so good? How do I make the most of it?
>>483823789>would a blood knight use an entire bloody limb as weapon?It's metal as fuck
I gave Ansbach a scroll, and I helped him against Leda but he's gone now. Have fucked something up, or will I be able to meet him later to get whatever knowledge she's talking about?
All these garbage reused enemies but they didn't bother to bring back duelists or banished knights. Definitely needed another giga aids ancient dragon fight though
>>483823674because I always play from dlcs ng+ blind
>>483823951>now undodgeable even with bloodhound stepdoubt
the dlc is too long. i beat it once and i don't have the energy to do it again.
>>483823895SL restriction is the only way you can enjoy pvp. Elden ring requiring such high SL to complete only serves to harm the ability to enjoy pvp.
>>483823519They're both your children with Marika time-traveling into the past. This is why Messmer's Oedipus complex falls upon (You), you actually really are his father that he has to kill to marry his mother but you defend yourself from his filial impiety.
>>483823951Bro just throw a pot at her
>>483823951is this you?
>>483822043You've never had anyone to call "babe".
>>483823519They're jar people. Messmer was made from an abyssal snake. Melina was made with pieces of GEQ
>>483824064go parry fire knights, you will feel better.
>>483824125>tfw on third run of the DLC
>>483823951I was dodging waterfowl with medium roll just yesterday.
>>483823718you WILL use the quality weapon with a D scaling 20 int taxyou WILL use the quality weapon with a D scaling 15 int taxyou WILL use the quality weapon with a E/E scaling int/fth tax
>>483824110try it if you don't believe me, she ALWAYS rotates off angle in part 3 now and she can catch up to you if you run BEFORE she starts or if you double dodge away with BHS>>483824190doesn't work if shes already frosted (though I was frost reseting)>>483824213no
>>483823504Fellow Tarnished can anyone help me?My Marika keeps shout weird phrases at me it's really distracting while I fight. See below for some examples"Fuck yeah 'Merika""The only good commie is a dead commie.""Better dead than red!""No son of mine is gonna be a faggot!"and many more please sent help.
>>483824125It's pretty short without having to explore all the areas for items anymore.
Why did Miyazaki made Leda an absolute psycho murderer?
Place your bets, what's getting "rebalanced" in the next patch?
>>483824393you have to explore for skibidis though
>>483824002just put bleed on it
>>483824401Revealing the inherent nature of women.
>>483824016You bricked Frejya's quest by giving Ansbach the scroll before talking to him about Frejya. It's not a big deal though, it just means Frejya can't be fought later. You can still get all her gear if you go to this spot after you fight Leda and Co.
There’s a solid arc faith build in here somewhere. I want to use ansbach spell despite how shit it is. I want to use some fire spells and red lightning spells and have a fire bleed weapon. 30 faith for all the goodies and 60 arc for the spells and weapons. Fire knight GS with blood infusion and something quick to back it up.
>>483823895This. It's a Nip RPG, they expect you to keep grinding levels until you stop playing.>>483824128Your PVP minigames are not important and should be cut from future games. Play a fighting game if you want a skill test.
>>483821328Just upgrade my GPU, am I now CPU bottlenecked?
>>483824287For all 3 parts of waterfowl:>if there's distancerun away, roll forward, roll forward, roll backward>no distancerun around and roll forward, roll forward, roll forward, roll backward
>>483822158vyke's shits on any npc invader and it's not even funny how hard it shits on them
>>483824443So it's a STR/ARC weapon?
>Miquella the kind>brings back Radahn the biggest chad in the series >they promise to make the world a better place>we go in and slaughter them both because uhhhhhhh GODHOOD = IMPRISONMENT= BAD!!What the fuck is wrong with us man
>>483824401I think its hot. imagine a cute girl who also mutilates people to death but she likes you and gives you gentle kisses after decapitating some faggot. gets me so hard
>>483824432nothing cause I don't use skibadi upgrades and this ain't terraria
>>483824528I slaughtered them because I'm becoming god and they're both stupid faggots
>>483824438But you can just reference a map for them on a repeat playthrough.
>>483822043>newis it new when you've posted it like 9 times already
>>483824528We kill them both because we want to be Elden Lord and they stand in the way of our ambition. In-character the Tarnished cares very little for good or evil, his primary motivation is the flame of ambition.
>>483824528Killing gays is always the morally correct decision.
>>483823992It's that story where the Tarnished fucks all the women in the Land Between. Can't look for it, new FFXIV DLC is out.
>>483824621i guess that is true
>>483824523Invest more in arc its scaling is C/B when blood infused
>>483824515I know how to dodge waterfowl im telling you none of the old methods work ffs I have the recording of me beating her at level 60 +8/s3 still, dont patronize mei'm going to max my weapons out and fucking murder her.
>just found out you can block the elevator to the boss in Castle Enis like you could in Carian Manoroh yea lets go
>>483824432Death Knight's Longhaft AxeBloodfiend's ArmSunflowerPerfumes
>>483823740That's because you keep your eyes on the prize and I respect that.
>>483824528>brings back Radahn*brings back a mindcontrolled puppet of radahn made with mohg's gross horny corpse
>>483824528We're here to become Elden Lord you dumbfuck. Not yield to the first twink femboy who promises to do it better than us.
I'm just doing worse and worse with each attempt at Radahn nowThink it might be time to give in and pull out the mimic
>>483824528>The Kind>Mindrapes people and discards his ability to love>Abandons his sister and the people of the HaligtreeNah, Miquella fucking deserved to die.
>>483822445Placidussax the first Elden Lord and him duked it out, this ended up with Placidussax having to basically nope out of time and space to not die.Also if you eat his heart you will eventually explode, burning your soul and body to nothingness since it doesn't even weaken him to be fucking EATEN.
>>483824484souls games have been built around pvp since demon's souls, sorry that you havent been able to enjoy that aspect of it yourself, and thats okay, you are not required to engage with it, but calling it a mini game is silly.
>>483824756Just try it with a Greatshield first. Still cheesy but not quite as bad as a mimic.
>>483824770He didn't abandon his sister or the haligtree doing this though. Presumably in becoming a god he will attain the power to do the things he wants, like curing Malenia.
>>483824432Perfumes and the chicken wing are getting nerfed
>EMPTY DLC ZONE 60 FPS>MOVE TO ANOTHER EMPTY ZONE 35 FPSFrom software's first PC port was released in 2012 and it was absolute trash. It's 2024 and they still suck dick, trully amazing.
>>483823542same outfit, except replace that helm with the fire knight hood
>>483822567if they want real mental disorders, miquella suffers from did, and his alter is a benevolent female. his true personality is a gay or bisexual male. miquella isn't transsexual.
>>483822649all the infusions do some combination of "reduce base physical damage by %, potentially introduce split damage, reduce/increase scalings of individual attributes"a lot of them aren't intuitive. adding a cold infusion actually increases the STR and DEX scaling of dryleaf arts, and it also adds intelligence scaling. so it gets a lot more damage when you heavily invest in those 3 attributes.see: https://eldenring.tclark.io/
Honest question what's the point of what we're doing in the dlcI'm already elden lordDoes anything miquellas doing matterWhat are they even doing. I've been reading every items lore and I have so much pieced together on literally everything except what we're doing and why
>>483824528Anon everything I do is so that the world will melt in chaos flame miquella is a threat to that
>>483824864>Presumably>Needs to make assumptions about the guy who threw away St. Trina>>483824920Rival god and lord
>>483824268based.i did it once solo with my (bad) build on launchonce with npc summons to be a completionistand once with the funny haha chicken winggame good.
>>483824808Demon's Souls was built around invasions which is wholly separate from "PVP"
I think my canon ending is just repeatedly overdosing on st. trina's delicious juice for the rest of eternity.
If the guy's kind alter ego sitting in the same place he abandoned his ability to love and be kind is telling you he fucked up and you should kill him, you should probably kill him. It's rather simple.
>>483824528>Miquella the kindMore like Miquella the monster, anyone who disagrees with his order is going to become a hypno brainwashed slave without free will.And he's still from Marika's insane bloodline, while taking the same exact steps as her. It's just going to lead to even more misery but this time 100% more gay.
>>483824438Wait does your blessing level not carry over on ng+
>>483824432Nerf>Perfumes>Scat thorns>Chicken wingBuff>Carian sword>Most incants/spells>Radahn's swords
>>483824920you don't have all the shards (miquella, ranni (still missing?) )
>>483824892Works on my machine. Maybe your dick is too small to take the GRAPHICS
>>483824528I mean I'm pretty sure St Trina would know better than us on that point
>>483824962There's really nothing indicating he betrayed her or the Haligtree, and in fact she seems to have been, to some degree, in on the plan.
>>483825014sword of night needs A scaling
I don't know how to tackle my 2nd DLC run, or in general.>Beat it using one of my NG characters that was sitting around after beating Elden Beast the first timeSo now I can do the following:>Beat it with another NG character with a different build>Use my NG+3 character for a DLC run.>Beat the whole game again + DLC with the original character I beat it with, using DLC equipment>Make a fresh character and have someone drop me some DLC weapons so I can use them in the NG basegame + DLC afterI'm not sure what option to go with. How much harder does the base game get on NG+1? I don't remember, is it a complete snoozefest outside of Malenia probably?
>>483824968i miss invasions, I wish invasions were an actual thing in elden ring as they were in dark souls. its a god damned shame they butchered invading.
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>>483824516his resistance to it is so high it might as well not even be worth mentioning. also i get literally one shot by this nigger and its impossible to react against in the middle of attack frames
>>483824920if you're already Elden Lord that makes it even more imperative you put a foot of steel in Miquella since he wants to usurp the Throne and replace you and your god-waifu of choice with himself and Radahn.
>>483824743>mindcontrolled puppetYou keep posting this, but please provide evidence. Headcanon is not evidence.
>>483824282>you WILL use the quality weapon with a D scaling 20 int taxI HATE THE STARLINED SWORDI HATE THE STARLINED SWORD
>>483825045shut the frick up loser
>>483825087Nah it deserves C scaling for being a katana
>>483824864>like curing Malenia.He never even calls her sister, she's just a weapon and research project to him.He only has eyes for Radahn whom he calls brother.
As long as incants, smithscript, and Messmer's spear don't get nerfed I'm happy.>>483824432Perfumes for sure, it's just a question of if it's just rolling sparks or perfumes entirely, and wether it's the "literally unusable now" variety of over nerf.
i have a 1070ti and i had no issues with the framerate except for some boss attacks/furnace golems
>>483824830I'll give it a few tried but I'm starting to tire of this faggot boss. The first phase is actually pretty fun, but holy shit I want to strangle the cunt who decided to put all that bullshit in phase 2
>>483824729i'd like to keep my something on her that's for sure
>>483824920>what we're doingFollowing Miquella's path.>why we're doing itThe marketing material asked us to.That's literally it. You got the Marika backstory DLC and the Miquella DLC mashed together clumsily into one package.
>>483825115reminder INcel means involuntary so its your fault for treating me like I don't exist (after leaving the band cause they wouldn't stop then) women.
Damn the Storm Lion Warrior right before Radahn (forma de Miquellussy) is so fucking cool, wasn't even mad over the grab attack
>>483825129you mean besides the entire dlc and multiple npcs telling you that Miquella has literally mindfucked everyone involved into loving him?
>>483825130Hey fuck you don't insult my weaponfu. Also the ash scales entirely with INT, D scaling or not leveling INT makes bigger L2s than leveling DEX. It's for hybrid DEX/INT builds.
>>483825221>Messmer's spear 100% seeing nerfs>smithscript weaponsthe shield is getting nerfed
>>483825292He has a grab attack?
>>483824528>Miquella the kind>Haligtree has suicide bombersAhh yes, tell me more about Miquella the kind and his "Peaceful Religion"
>Co-opping Radahn>Everyone is watching the full P2 cutsceneWHYYYYYYYY
>>483825102They were going pretty well until Bloodborne started the entire system of "hehehe you can only get invaded if you already HAVE a summon." Dark Souls 2 was almost perfect invasion land if it weren't for soul memory and lack of infinite invasion eyes. Also fucked covenant rewards. But at least you were always an option to invade.
>>483824729My neurons are FIRING.
>>483824468>You can still get all her gearthank godIt's weird that that would brick her quest though, the scroll is obviously earlier in the dungeon than she is, why would you NOT give it to him?
>>483824920>Does anything miquellas doing matterHe's a threat to (you)r old order since he seeks to start a new age of "compassion"
Beat the game with my swordman (now an spearman because Messmer spear is nuts)I have one question. If I get out from the keep through the left side (elevator once you reach the library) to get the fragments on the ruins before the bug lady boss can I break any questlines?Or progressing through that zone does not progress the story as long as you dont burn the tree?
How do I use katanas on a faith build? What should I use
Where's Freyja go if you never passed Ansbach message along and then burn the tree?
>>483825129Here's my evidence: Radahn kept fighting and didn't agree to be his consort, and now he gets turned into it and doesn't have anything to say. If he was willing to go along with Miquella there'd be no reason for him to resist Malenia after speaking of the "vow."
>>483825368I wish they at least brought back the "You'll get invaded here anyway" areas...
>>483825401Beats me, it's dumb as fuck. Same thing happened to me which is why I'm able to tell you all this. Weirdly enough when I reloaded the area a second time too her gear was there AGAIN, so I got two copies of it all for free. Might just be bugged.
>>483825129considering miquella is a functional psychopath now, there's zero reason for him not to have total control over radahn.that's just the rational and logical thing to do when you're free of all empathy and run on pure logic.
>>483825336Please please please please don't nerf Messmer's, it's literally been my target weapon from the start, and I only got it yesterday.
>>483825360They probably never even beat phase one without your help.
>>483825447a-anon messmer is not the final boss
>>483825000I'm more and more of the opinion that Miquella can't NOT mind control people even if he doesn't want to.
fucking finally stupid bitch
>>483825347Storms you up in the air, jumps then slams you down
>>483825453just slap occult on katanas and call it a build.
>>483824920Theres kinda no reason to do literally any Fromsoft DLC lorewise
Greatshield + Heavy Thrusting SwordName a better combo
>>483824920I hope eventually people realize you aren't elden lord yet in the dlc.
>>483824432Please buff the range of the throwing daggers they're absolutely worthless
>>483825447Questlines break when Miquella's rune breaks by approaching the Shadowkeep. That is the only trigger that matters.
>t-t-too hardGreatsword + giant hunter. Get stunlocked Get stunlocked Get stunlocked Get stunlocked Get stunlocked Get stunlocked Get stunlocked Get stunlocked Get stunlocked
>>483825483See >>483824468
Why is there a Chinese themed dancing lion/dragon defending some divine place.
i will destroy the land of shadow if it is the last thing i do
>>483825453like this(35 faith for aeonia, and golden vow, rest in dex, focus on melee over spells)
>>483825587>viglet>soresealanon, i...
>>483825682Are you not? A few NPCs call you a lord.
>>483824002One charged R2 basically insta bleeds anything
I really wanted them to add a bell bearing hunter spear.
>>483825728im level 25 with a +1 weapon
Why is blocking more inherently "cheesy" than rolling?
>>483825401They probably assumed that you'd push on to the next grace which IIRC is the one right next to her.
>>483825853it's easier, now stop caring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeBOIYnVq54
>>483825453>How do I use katanas on a faith build?You don't lmao
>>483825323Radahn is his "promised lord", meaning he agreed to become his lord.
>>483825292He's great, especially the entrance and the timing of attacks
>>483825789I don't want to explain this every other thread. I'll just let you assume what you will.
>>483821638I'm still farming free heal updoots from my base game ones, I guess a ton of new people are playing the game for the first time since the DLC came out
>>483823951>waterfowl (now undodgable even with bloodhound step)lol>lungePFFF LMAOGod damn, you're really this dogshit at the game, huh
>>483825853instead of deciding when you are mmortal at the right time(iframes), you decide when you are vulnerable at the right time(putting your shield down)
would you drink from the genocide jar?
>>483824432They need to nerf the goddamn Fire kNIGhts in Shadow keep. I know they wanted them to be the silver knights of the game, but they are not fun to fight in series entirely due to their bullshit combo strings and flame attacks that cover their movementsIm level 170 and level 10 skibidee blessings and able to one shot most mobs in the shadow real now, there's no reason for them to be this tough, even against infused weapons
>>483824726>Sunflower>Death Knight's Longhaft AxeThese are too strong?
>>483825789Nah you're not one. In the final battle if you bring Ansbach he bids you to become a lord if he dies.
>>483825832Too pussy for a SL1 run or what?
>>483826110He bids you to become a "Lord of men, not gods". That doesn't necessarily mean that you aren't a lord, just that he wants you to be a certain kind of lord.
>>483826053go fuck yourself
>>483826068They simply have way too much health and should be a frailer enemy for the strings they do.
>>483825453uchi with sacred blade
>why do you kill miquella"Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved.Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord.Be it a God.But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken.Amounting only to sacrifices..."Marika doesnt mind if her kids become gods, replacing her. She does mind if they're gay men. Marika is a homophobe and we're sent to kill her gay son and step son.
>>483826131its for coop and invasions in limgrave and the weeping peninsula. in a pinch i might get a summon or two in siofra and even stormveil
>>483825706Cashing in on the hype from the Monke game coming out this August.Already preordered just to stick it to IGN, SBI and the SJWs
>>483826131Fucking kill yourself you disingenuous prick
>>483825979Dont know if you remember this, but Malenia is inherently loyal to miquella. The reason Radahn is fucking insane in the base game is because Malenia literally went full schizo rot mode on radahn and made him insane.Why would Miquella make his sister try to kill radahn? So he could kidnap his soul and mind rape him in the shadow realm.
>>483825485Mohg was brainwashed and talked up a storm... Also since we have no idea what the vow actually was, the fight means nothing since it could have been the twins giving Radahn one last war like demigods tend to do
>>483826068Fire Knights are a joke. If they're skullfucking you either you're trash or you're using a trash build. There's SO many weapons that bully them into oblivion, they're utter poiselets.
>>483821673none of this is true in the slightest
i would rather fight 2 erdtree avatars for every dragon this dlc has ffs
Will they add some cutscenes/voice lines in the next patches? Rellana having nothing is so weird
>>483825853Because Fingerprint shield is easy mode
>>483826334npc invaders definitely have infinite fp
>>483826229We could have had an entire village of goddesses like her if the chosen hornsent tribe hadn't wiped them out.THSD. Im going flame of frenzy against all Horns*nt settlements to wipe out everything Mesmer missed on his first pass
>>483826297mogh was brainwashed when he was making that cocoon and shit?
>Some dudes cookbook [26]why is this a thing
>>483825545Huge jump in logic. Why would Radahn need to be mind controlled if he's going along with plans anyways?
>>483826226See >>483826316>>483826368Yeah bro I can't wait for them to add dialogue to sewer mohg. Any day now!
>>483826297>one last warAnon you really think if Radahn agreed to this they would have had a battle that nuked all of Caelid? You have to use serious headcanon to get around this. He was clearly, very clearly, not willing to go through with it.
>>483826362The death rite bird pissed me off the most, but the dragons, ulcerated tree spirits, and magma wyrm all suck
>>483822445SMASHED and SLAMMED
>>483826430Padding. If you hadn't noticed they clearly didn't have time to make enough shit to fill all the item drops and chests they had planned.
>>483826068Literally just crouch poke combo with a bass cannon and you will stagger them and crit them to death easily
>>483826368No, silence means absence of sound which means there are no words and thus we can conclude rellana is gloom eyed qyeen
>>483826459I used two different LGS on them and they didn't really give that much of a fuck about them, certainly didn't do enough damage to just combo delete them.
>>483826368I mean, they could've given a generic >Thou dare trespass the land of my lord thou will fear the wrath of messmer's blade blablaBut her not saying anything is pretty cool to, it means she literally has no interest at all in what you have to say, she knows if you're here at all it's only to kill Messmer.
Man, I fucking hate how Radahn's fate went from>Respectfully sent off in a grand festival celebrated by people who respect himTo>Shoved into Mohg's corpse and controlled by his gay brotherI still can't wrap my head around what they were thinking
>>483826316>dodge dodge dodge dodge r1 stagger r1 stagger r1 stagger r1 stagger back off and repeat until dead>chug flask to heal>repeat 5 more times until next site of graceThey are not fun to fight you fucking retard. Dark souls silver and black knights at least had a bigger moveset pool and let you be more aggressive with their shoter combos
>>483826621this is surprising to you with from?
>>483826196It does mean that actually. Use your brain.
>>483826621You should hate it. Initially going in the DLC to save Miquella or at least see him to going to the storehouse and finding out what that little fag is doing and deciding to kill him for what he is doing.
>>483826545You know, I'm starting to believe that theory that this is 2 undercooked DLCs smushed into one.
>>483826596>LGSThere's your problem, LGS are shit. You failed the build check.
>>483826439there's no reason why he'd go along with it now, especially considering how it happened (sister killing you at his behest, using mogh's body, and so on). radahn would be even more against it; it's all dishonorable.
>>483826597> it means she literally has no interest at all in what you have to saybro at this point that isn't interesting, that is the majority of all bosses. If she's going to be a chokepoint boss, sister-in-law to a god, and following said god's son who is just up ahead, she should have some fucking gravitas. More than they gave her. At least more items that reference her and build up to this. Instead we get one Carian knight and some Academy nerds.
>>483826282Don't know if you remember this, but we're told in the opening sequence that the demigods were driven mad by their great runes
>>483826621Kino. It's fucking kino what they were thinking.
>>483822445Tried to fight flaciddudesacks for tile of Elden lord, badly wounded eachother and flew off to his peak to raise his drake offspring brood.Placidusax, being left badly injured and weakened also lost his claim as Elden lord, pretty much causing everything that went wrong in the world after the age of dragons
>>483826796If an enemy like that isn't countered by straight swords they are too durable for what they do and the prevalence they have.
>>483826795that theory makes zero sense.
>>483823182No. The sword lance, despite having "sword" in the name and a blade along its length, does not have any slashing attacks. Instead of the amazing HTS running R2, it gets the fucking awful greatspear running R2. It doesn't even get the greatspear crouching R1, which is a slash - it gets the useless upward thrust of the HTS. It really has no distinguishing characteristics, as far as I can tell.If you hear anyone telling you that the sword lance is "actually cracked", you can be certain that they're just a brain dead shieldpoker who is comparing its damage to poking things to death with a blood-infused antspur rapier.
>>483826790>Save MiquellaThe DLC never EVER gave any indication in promotionals or the journey that he needed saving
>>483821558>Shitters got filtered by radahn
>>483826828Retardfaggot, you are told in ingame dialogue that radahn was driven insane from his scarlet rot which he got from Malenia going full rot supernova on him.
>>483826843having one cool cutscene does not kino make. you should be annoyed that we fight a character that we've beaten being flesh puppeteered by another character we've beaten, controlled by a character we never actually fight personally
>>483826770me on the right
>>483826908I feel like there's a split between the Marika's backstory, Cosmology and Messmer stuff and the Miquella stuff. I wouldn't call it solid evidence, or anything, but the vibe is there.
>>483826843It was fucking retarded.The actual fucking NPC gank is more kino than PRIME RADAHNBASE GAME RADAHN IS MORE KINO THAN PRIME RADAHNHOW DID THEY FUCK THIS UP SO BADLY??
>>483826481They're about on the same level of headcanon until you get Radahn's point of view on it. Nuking could have been an accident since Millicent's quest establishes it happens during high emotion
>>483826795>>483826908Redditors are gonna go rampant with this shit because the finger ruins are empty and that video games have "cut content"From should start removing unused content from their files; these fucking retards don't realize that cut content =/= lack of time or budget
>>483826790Source: your headcanon
>>483826857>and flew offHe likely did not have the crucible spells when placi made him almost quadraplegic
>>483826673I enjoyed fighting them, sounds like a skill issue on your part bro.
>>483826814>radahn would be even more against it; it's all dishonorable.This is pure conjecture
>>483826362>>483826535Sisters, your obligatory weapon with sacred blade on it?
>>483827118>>>>>>>>>>>>Prime RadahnIt's not even Prime Radahn either which is the funniest thing
>>483826886Or maybe you should carry more than a LGS. Even something as light as beast claws bullies them. Hell, just put an ash on your LGS that bullies them.
>>483825576I meant I changed from swordman to spearman since I got that spear.Except for Radhan, there I gone back to good old swords
>>483826796While they should buff LGS to do actual staggers outside of Wing Stance, Fire Knights are still annoying since they constantly spam fire balls. It's like if the Shrine of Amana priestesses were still capable of killing you in close range.
If I am gonna wield two bloodfiend arms, does that mean I can deal over 400 bleed points in a single jump attack?
>>483826912The only thing it has going for it is the inherent unique art being flashy and the fact you can slot something else when you want to do work with it. Unfortunately you probably have three weapons that could do said work better already.
>>483826621Genuinely baffling
So lorewise, would it be fair to say the only reason you killed radahn and mohg was because Miquella brainfucked you into doing it so he can fulfill his plan?
>>483827118All you retards keep calling him PRIME radahn when it's very clearly CONSORT Radahn, aka BIG GAY HUSBAND Radahn
>>483827408No, powerstance applies a 0.66 multiplier to status. It's more bleed than a single one but not much.
>>483827408No, the insane blood build up comes from the charged heavy AFAIK
>>483827408It doesn't have innate bleed. The effect is on the R2. All you'd get is 2 colossals with S ARC scaling.>>483827424>unique artIt's cool and all, but can't you put it on anything capable of thrusting?
actually something better than the blackbow, not bad
>>483826996>we fight a character that we've beaten being flesh puppeteered by another character we've beaten, controlled by a character we never actually fight personallyI mean that does sound pretty kino.I will say this however, we should've gotten a third phase where Miquella is left on the ground helpless, with on hit away from the kill, a la maiden astrea, except if we listen to all his last effort ramblings dialogue we get charmed.
>>483823439explain st Trina
>>483826843>W-WOAH! Isss I-i-isss that HECKIN RADAHN?!? WOWWEEEE. LOOK AT THAT POOOOSESlop.
>>483826992A character can start off crazy and be driven more insane, you know
>>483827528>>483827530You people are retards, you can infuse it.
>>483827121Not really, because the other side of the argument doesn't have much supporting or pointing to him agreeing willingly.
So...why exactly do we want to kill Miquella, and why exactly do we angry Leda?She was pretty chill and nice so far then suddenly "I won't let you get close to Miequella!"
>>483825789>>483826196There's a reason it only requires two demigods dead and not the elden beast. If it were set after the base game radabeast would be required too. But they aren't.
>>483827530>It's cool and all, but can't you put it on anything capable of thrusting?I'm not able to load the game up and check right now but IIRC it's not an ash slotted in the weapon, it's inherent so you can't unslot it and use it elsewhere.
>>483827481Apparently the consort stuff is only in the English version. The japs used the word King. It's not supposed to have any romantic, or sexual connotation.
>get deflecting tear>combat is now twice as funThis should have been a thing in the base game
>>483827596The same thing Radagon is to Marika Trina is to Miquella.
What's the point of builds if everything boils down to who rolls better?
>>483827716>So...why exactly do we want to kill Miquella>So why exactly do we want to kill a demigod with absurd mind control powers who shed his humanity and love and is now standing in our way of becoming elden lord?Gee I fucking wonder.
>>483825129not him but radahn does move like a puppet in the fight, does not speak a word and in the phase transition cutscene when miq rides him and raises his right arm to the sky radahn's body reacts to it kind of like a string puppet too majority of lore in souls games comes from contextual shit like this, unless you want to go back and dismiss the fact that sif remembers you when you fight her if you did the dlc first or some other examples that escape my mind at this moment
>>483827596He excised an aspect of himself which took a female presenting avatar, or at least one that the simple unga bunga primate mind of a human would categorise as female because its incapable of thinking in anything other than binary. Its like how Marika was able to create Radogon by breaking off an aspect of herself
>>483827782Radagon came later. Argue with me and I'll came in you later
>>483827760Yeah, King Consort.
>>483827652Anon, the big burst of bleed comes from the heavy. Having two of them does nothing.
>get to Romina >wow, this doesn't seem tough at all, why did people complain?>zero wind-up body explosion that one-shots>oh...I think I might be done with the DLC. There's no salvaging this.
>>483827652You're the retard for thinking that bleed build-up from infusion has anything to do with the specific weapon you're infusing. It's based on weapon class, with a few exceptions like warped axe. You might as well be infusing the giant crusher with bleed.Think before you speak, moron.
>>483827819But Im the elder lord already! He can stop my way of becoming elden lord
>>483827589>I mean that does sound pretty kino.elaborate how that sounds kino, when it's literally two times the amount of shit we've already seen
>>483827341Bro I am not carrying around multiple weapons I don't want to use. I am not seething about being unable to deal with them, I killed all of them and beat the DLC already. They just shouldn't have so much health and poise. No other enemy type that is so prolifically used is as annoying as them. They're just obnoxious when they would have felt like a great enemy with lower health.
>>483825789Why are there so many of you retards playing this game? Do you even listening or read what's going on? This is fucking sad and pathetic.
>>483827830How would that fit in with the fight before Miquella walks through the gate?
>>483827716The Tarnished is canonically a power hungry murderhobo who likes pretty women. Miquella presented himself as a rival, so we went to deal with him.Leda was initially charmed by us (somehow), but she eventually had to fight us because we were going to murder her faggot of a god.
>>483827729It's not a unique skill, you can unslot it and apply it to other weapons. It's like how the backhand blades come with blind spot. So in other words, the sword spear has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.>>483828005>bitching about the easiest boss in the DLCYour smug reaction image will not conceal how hard you were filtered.
>people whinging about how hard the DLC is>put down sign a bunch>all viglet hosts trying to spam ash of wars and just trying to facetank everything or the usual mage trying to spam2win at the back>look at a few streamers whinging>all using cheese builds trying to spam ashes of war and not even attempting to learn the bossI miss early souls when it wasn't full of these pathetic fucking casuals and it was a relatively niche franchise still.These milk sops whinging about how unfair it is while they refuse to learn the game should've been gatekept long ago.And they've infested this general too for some time.Once again, gatekeeping is shown to only be a force for good.
>>483828005>Get her to about 50-60%>Okay she's about to do the explosion, gonna give her some spaceI had more trouble with Rellana and the Divine beast.
cant find this fucking faggot logur for the life of me what the fuck
>>483828005>zero wind upGit gud, they are telegraphed quiet clearly
>>483827940Apparently not even like that? More like, the God's chosen king. Like in the medieval times, where kings would claim that their right to rule is mandated by God and stuff. That's second hand knowledge tho, I don't know japanese.
We can do away with the concept of days completely, we can just use the retarded "But why are we fighting Miquella?" questions that pop up every thread to mark the passage of time instead.
>>483827716Because Leda realized you were never charmed by Miquella in the first place at all. You weren't lead there by Miquella, But by Marika, the other god, at odd with you
>>483827716>Why do we anger Ledaall the way until you get to that point you can reasonably be seen as working together, but by ascending up there you're clearly trying to stop Miquella. You would be there for no other reason. Seems pretty obvious to me why she'd stop you.
>>483828019In the DLC you are not elden lord yet and even if you WERE that means they're going to challenge you.
>>483828005what? she's the easiest remembrance boss in the DLC, there is no zero wind-up anything
>>483828005She's a fine boss and that attack isn't a big deal.
>>483828082miq does not need to be present in "body" to control people's actions seeing the band of misfits following him and mogh's actions when miq was supposedly in deep sleep getting fusioned with the haligtree
>>483828054Explain what I missed, then. I couldn't catch every line of dialogue.
>>483824864That was the plan when he set out, but he discarded his ability to care about others and is about to usher in an age without free will.Whatever his original goal was, in the present he needs to be put down.
>>483828164FromSoft needs to read this book and stop catering to these idiots who don't even want to learn how to play the game
>>483823439I won't even blame all trannies for this one because it's only the lowest IQ trannies imaginable who think god characters with masculine and feminine forms in media have anything to do with tranny stuff, you could make a better argument for Ranni being trans (cast aside her body because of the expectations associated with it) than you could for Marika or Miquella. Don't get me wrong it's retarded to think Ranni is a tranny but less retarded than thinking Miquella or Marika is a tranny. They're inspired by real life ancient gods like Ardhanarishvara, same with Vivec from Morrowind who troons also try to claim The games are full of explicitly gay shit so they have to cope with the fact LGB wants nothing to do with T
>>483827774It should have been a talisman
>>483828112Why cant we get nice lady followers like the demigods?A cute lady follower that doesnt die and/or becomes ashes I mean.Can't I have my own lady knight Leda or not transparent tiche?
buff garbage bayle incantations
>>483827892Back to /r/eddit with you, retard>>483828216You do know that consort is just the title of the sovereign's spouse right? That's why Godfrey and Radagon or King Consort to Queen Marika, the ruling sovereign.
>>483827596cunny
>>483828464seek Dragon Communion
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>>483824528Don't have to ask me twice, weird humanoid talking flower.
>we kill every single one of Marika's children except Godwyn, who was already "dead", and RanniThat post ending conversation must be really awkward.
>>483827457No, you were going to have to put them down anyways considering they were competition to your poisition as Elden Lord
Thinking about Marika going around topless again...Marika's tits!
>>483824864>>483828371Do we know the order of the parts he abandonned? Did he abandon his flesh first or love first?
>>483828250Why would Marika guide us against Miquella when she herself states she wants her children to become Gods or Lords? She has no reason to want to stop Miquella, only the player does.
>>483828112Leda thought you were a follower of Miquella too. She didn't know you were led by the grace of the Erdtree/Marika.
>>483827716Marika's entire goal is to free herself and ensure we marry and have sex. That's it. Those are her main motivations. It's why she can point us along ranni's quest. But miquella? He's already married so tarnished can't marry and sleep with him therefore he needs to die, as mommy marika wills it. Why do we kill messmer? She's dissapointed he minionzoned rellana and wants us to kill both because they didn't marry and have sex. She's the Shinzo Abe of elden ring
>>483824864why do you guys act like ascended miquella would somehow hold his previous views? the entire thing about him discarding his love "something he should not have, under any circumstances" already tells you it's not even the real miquella there by the end just an obsessive freak
>>483827886Damn I've never seen half of those Unown
>>483828546Thanks Gideon, I'm still skull fucking your helmet tho
>>483827760All of this would be fixed if they used king instead since nobody wants Radahn to be a gay pedo
>>483828546good post
I love sodomizing Miquella and Radahn with this thing.
>>483828636>she wants her children to become Gods or Lords?That an echo of words that was from before the shattering. Her current purpose is to guide the tarnished into becoming Elden Lord.
>>483828661Sauce?
>>483805583I hope they enjoyed the shitty lore from came up with
>>483828546You should replace that image with Bernahl, he knows what's up while Gideon is in his study imagining what Marika wants from the Tarnished.
>>483828530I'd like to point out a reason why that reddit theory is bogus, there's no fucking way by real world genetics or by grrm hair genes that a guy from a group of redheads and a women from a family of all onyx heads could have a blonde kid. And rykard is blonde. Meaning radagon was blonde at some point and was cursed(since he's part of marika) or he's part of marika. If they were ever seperate he would've been a discarded piece of her like st trina was. More than likely his devotion.
>>483828340Why wouldn't he skip the middleman and mind control Radahn from the start?
>>483828691Messmer is supposed to be tragic, just like every other moron demigod because Zaki is a huge doomer.
>>483828464MY headcanon is that Tiche becomes the headmistress of the household after everything is said and done.
>>483828792does the ash inflict bleed buildup?
>>483828890Why in the fuck would it? Are you retarded? It barely even does first build-up.
>>483827274no, the emotional state of an individual is very important. he known that radahn has a normal emotional range but was brought up in a warrior culture. if he rejected miquella prior, the situation this time is far worse for miqualla's desirability. unless radahn has is own ulterior motive and will get back at miquella at a later date.for miquella and his emotional state, treat him as a primary psychopath.
>>483828794How would this free her in any way of the Elden Beast/GW though? There is no indication that she'd be free after we become lord.
>anons are still talking about loreWhy? They killed it
>>483828546What about "Input Delay"?
>>483828861Red hair is a mutation of the blond hair gene so nice going bucko
>>483828691Why'd that dumbass attack us the minute we walked into his chamber?
>>483828851Can we get professionnal lip readers in here? What are you going to do that's literally what Malenia said all along every since the first trailer?
>>483828861>muh genes>when dealing with a magical world with space alien parasites influencing concepts of reality and actual categorizations of godokay dude
>shaman instead of priestess or shrine maiden>consort instead of champion or chosen or the likeClear anti woman, pro gay bias in translation.
>>483828939so you're just using a shitty death poker?>greatshieldoh sorry, I didn't know I was speaking to a faggot
>>483828546>unavoidable This is literally me, I need to be really tuned in or I just naturally panic roll and then panic heal then get completely fucked. Sekiro is my favorite because you can just check out mentally and rely on pure instinct
>>483828890Nope, it's just an easy way to get cold on the weapon so as I shieldpoke for the hostcel I get to afflict both cold and bleed. The
>>483828549I'm going to make it up to her by breeding fifty new children to replace all of the ones I killed, plus interest, plus a bonus, plus reparations on top.
>make the beautiful shaman village>put no grace nearbyThanks From
>>483828530Yea, but Miquella isn't a king. He's a god, and Radahn isn't supposed to be his consort, he's supposed to be his chosen king.Just because Marika was a slut and fucked all her consorts (and probably half of the lands between) doesn't mean it's an obligation, or the nature of the relationship.
>>483828851>your dear brother tells you he wants to get shagged by his jock half-brother>fight him and infect him with eldritch shit that rots you from inside and destroys the mindWhat's the logic behind this? Or did Malenia just sharted herself from excitement?
ignorance and retardation are different things, anon
>>483822835>body looks like shit>i abandon here my body (that looks fine now i guess?)>shows up with a normal body anyway>>483824656>>483824751>can choose between restoring marika or ranni>can't choose miquella, because fuck you
>>483828985Doesn't want you as his stepdad
>>483828374Pretty much. It's really pretty fucking sad to see how diluted and entitled the playerbase of these games have gotten over time with more and more casuals jumping into it (deeming casual as anyone who does not try to engage with and learn the game and expects everything handed to them with no effort on their part).I still remember my first time picking up demons souls and not having any internet access to access half of the information you can now for these games and going in totally blind not knowing anything about it (just thought it looked neat on the shelf).Didn't have any choice but to just git gud and experiment and find things out for yourself with trial and error.Now all these entitled twats have shitloads of information and possible ways to reduce the difficulty built into the game already and they just rapidly resort to whinging and beggining and moaning for fromsoft to come wipe their arse for them.Grim.
>>483828985>Why'd that dumbass attack us the minute we walked into his chamber?I mean, since you we walked in his castle at all you should figure out why he didn't set out to murder you the second you stepped in
>>483828164This. I'm glad the DLC filtered so many people
>>483826621>controlledYour dude is a giant flaming incest shota loving faggot
>>483829041>shaman instead of priestess or shrine maidenthose would be different, is it actually implied to be female-only in Japanese
>>483828985I think he assumes you're attempting to take the throne from Marika while being unaware that she isn't really capable of ruling, or really living, anymore. Or he doesn't approve of you taking over from her.
>>483828546All this is true for Radahn except rngHe has unavoidable attacks, you must blockHe can definitely one shot you if he catches with the first hit of several of his combosAnd he's terribly designed>>483828861>Rykard's blondeHe is? I thought he was redheaded like Ranni and Radahn.
>>483828985>sees Tarnished>REEEEEEEEEEE GRACELESSHe and Maggot assume you're just another jobber when Marika has you booked to take home the belt at Eldenmania.
>Bayle talisman boosts magma sorceries What are the lore implications?
>>483829150So nothing changed???
>>483829086God imagine how fucked the world would be with 50 of Marika's children going around.
>>483829087You don't get it?There is no grace there.
>>483828985Why'd you have to be such a mongrel and walk in tracking filth all over his room?
>>483829202He laments Marika sanctioning your lordship, so I don't think that's quite right.
>>483828956Radahn was raised fatherless due to Radagon cutting and running, pretty much leaving his mother comatose. His helmet shows how hard he's trying to win back Radogon's approval, not knowing Radogon was just a plot by Marika to destroy his familyHe was so desparate for a strong male father figure he even adopted the lion motif, which belonged to Godfrey, his step mum's ex husband
>>483822567>>Quelaag has to come up with cope to excuse this as to not anger the troons >Then you have at the other side retards screeching that From is woke now and bends the knee to woke media for making a """""""trans"""""""" character the center of the DLC.i'ts a known phenomenon, people with strong views tend to view neutral/less extreme opinions as biased in favor of the opposite ideology
>>483829283I clapped
>>483828164>learn the bossesBosses no longer have movesets that are worth learning.The only two bosses that had anything approaching a "fair" moveset were sunflower and putrescent knight.
>>483825934I-its over discord sissies, time to get a new game to complain about.
>Struggle with the Fire Knights in the Shadow Keep storeroom>Try out Gavel of Haima against them>BONK flattens themNice.
The Storehouse has many rooms and floors that I simply cannot find a way into.I still haven't beaten Messmer though. Do I find some new paths after beating him, or am I missing something earlier?
>>483829175Shaman village in the Japanese version is 巫子の村 so yeah if not necessarily a female only village, it implies the ones with the special flesh the hornsent were after were women.
>>483823519>>483823809Yeah, they might well be off-shoots of Marika. Melina in particular was very curious about the fact Boc was born of a mother and the different way he behaves because of that, from her perspective. It strongly implies she wasn't born in the common way we understand.There's also a fun fact about Melina's name (specially now with information from the Shaman village). Her name is originally greek and is derived from the same root that gives the name to the Meliae, which are the nymphs or dryads of the Ash tree in greek myth. Yggdrasil in Norse myth is also told to be an Ash tree.There is this early concept art of Marika shattering the Elden Ring, and she looks very dryad-like as she's fused with the Erdtree. So off-shooting progeny like trees is a real process with Marika or Malenia.
>>483829214Pretty sure all the Radagon kids are red of hair and Anon is a misremembering or being a schizo
I don't understand the shadowlands. If they're just a place that was hidden to conceal the origins of Marika and her divinity, why does it also seem to function as a faux afterlife of sorts? Why does Miquella have another body to the one in the cocoon and why is it the only way of getting there? Why hasn't Messmer annihilated Belurat and the hornsent entirely if he's had presumably at least a few centuries waging war against them?
>>483829384>be you>lack so much self awareness you respond to the post describing you in a vain attempt to justify your wanton shitterylmao
>>483829131>tfw my first DeS experience was finding that spell that reduces received damage by like 80% and cleaving my way through the gameI feel like I missed out
are there any new int/fth weapons besides the rellana glow sticks?
Messmer is harder than Malenia
>>483828867they made a vow and he expected radahn to uphold his end of it once the time camethen sent his sister to kill radahn in glorious battle but she failed then the tarnished comes and finishes him
>>483829436There's one path from the front gate, one path from the side gate on the right of the keep (from the other manor, into the church district, circle round from the Bonny village path), and I think at least one other path to get into a third section? Not sure, haven't finished my own explorations yet.
>>483829384>Bosses no longer have movesets that are worth learning.you are literally the entitled shitter the original post is talking about lol
>>483829430Your dueling shield???
>>483829327We don't know when Radagon left, and also claiming it was about detroying the Carians isn't necessarily true. Radagon might have legitimately wanted to marry and the lore we have implies that's the case. The GW (or I guess Metyr going schizo given the new revelations) later demanded that instead Radagon re-unite with Marika, probably because Marika was getting uppity and needed to be controlled.
>>483829552Lol lmao
>>483822060>women in land between>virginslmao
>>483829552some perfumes and the madness hand lol, enjoy!
>>483829467Nta but no he's right. The manga colors his hair as blonde, his paintings show him with light hair ingame, and in the opening cinematic the stands of hair we see are the same color as miquellas. He's blonde. That or his hair lightened the madder he became
>Famitsu: In relation to the art, one more thing, the person riding Torrent, is it the Tree Saint Miquella spoken of in the main title?>Miyazaki: Yes, Miquella is the central character in the story told in this DLC.>Famitsu: The main story of Elden Ring was told as a heroic tale, is that the same in the DLC?>Miyazaki: Correct. The theme of it being a heroic tale has not changed.>Famitsu: In the background of the new art, there appears to be some kind of veil in the sky.>Miyazaki: Yes, the shadow lands in which the DLC take place are sundered from the Lands Between where the main story takes place. It has been removed from and hidden from the outside world and this veil is a symbol of that.>Miyazaki: There is no separate ending, that is to say, nothing like where the credits would roll.>However, it is clear when the DLC has been finished, and there is a bit of artistic direction to make you feel that.>Miquella is not the central character, that's Marika>Heroic tale being killing everyone and nothing changing>There's NOTHING that makes it "clear when the DLC has been finished" other than Miquella's cutscene and St Trina dying, both which are very disappointingYou rike, gaijin?
>>483829586oh shit, you're right. I've even been there many hours ago, but left it for later, and now I've forgotten all about itI'm gonna check that out
>>483829564my friend who still cant beat malenia solo to this day (without summons or cheesing) beat messmer in about 15 tries with a bog standard build so this is bullshit
>>483827157What other reason there is for Tarnished to seek Miquella out and not just beelining for the throne?
>>483829534>>483829598No. The original post simply created a strawman that doesn't exist because he doesn't want to acknowledge boss design in this DLC is absolutely fucking abysmal at a gameplay level.The bosses are bad. It has nothing to do with "learning them". It has nothing to do with "muh viglets" or "muh ashes" or "muh mages" or any other excuse you might want to give FromThe bosses are bad. It's really that fucking simple.
>>483822241She clearly was based on Cersei. Like how damn wide do we have to caste the net in the lands between to find someone she hasn't fucked? Classic GRRM"She's been fucking Lancel and Osmund Kettleblack and probably Moon Boy for all I know."
>>483829504>Why hasn't Messmer annihilated Belurat and the hornsent entirely if he's had presumably at least a few centuries waging war against them?Looking at all the different ruins and the number of messmer army forts around the world I guess the hornsent used to be the main force and people there and Belurat is just the last of them.
>>483829618It's good against them?
>>483829674>>>>>>The MangaYou are also aware that Redheads are not always bright and can usually sand somewhere between strawberry blond and turbo ginger fire red right?
>>483793038Yamamura.
>>483829798>longwinded cope and still lacking the self awareness to understand that he is the exact person being described in the original postare you event sentient?are you a plant or something?how do you lack any self awareness?
>>483829674Or maybe he's already old enough it's going white?You're right about those pictures though. I genuinely thought he was red headed but I must be remembering wrong.
>>483829867It's good against any non-boss unit.
>>483828164The one who has changed is you.
>>483829682>Miquella is not the central character, that's MarikaAre you retarded?
>>483829582Sounds like Radahn consented
>>483829564Malenia is still the hardest boss no question.Messmer and Radahn only have 1 healthbar and don't have shitty almost unavoidable attacksMessmer is probably one of the most fair fight of the entire game
>>483829798>Muh boss designWith the exception of Radahn, your a fucking faggot in need of skill
>>483829504>Why hasn't Messmer annihilated Belurat and the hornsent entirely if he's had presumably at least a few centuries waging war against them?Fire Knight ashes. Messmer didn't fight the Hornsent he also faced rebellions from his own troops.
So, is the Abyssal Serpent another Outer God or what?>Malenia possessed by the God of Rot>Messmer possessed by the Abyssal Serpent>Ranni possessed by the Moon>Melina is supposedly afflicted by some flame-related shit too, possibly also the SerpentThey all also have one eye, because Marika/Radagon tried to seal that Outer Gods' influence with her soreseal eye prosthetics, but they all pulled them out.
>>483829049That's not my build you dumb piece of shit. And yes, it's just a shitty Death's Poker. Like 1/5 the damage and 1/3 the frostbite. The ash is dogshit.
>>483829436There's a spot you can only reach be entering it from east. You have to by that cathedral first.
>>483829798>the bosses are bad because i am bad and do not want to admit i am bad therefore it is the bosses that are bad
>>483829868Radagons kids consistently have the same hair color. It's more likely it just became lighter the more insane he went like >>483829919 said to show age or how disheveled he became. Remember grrm wrote plenty of characters who's hair turned lighter from stress or madness.
>>483828164>viglet60 Vig, Morgott's rune and the Crimson Amber Medallion +3, and the boss damage is only starting to feel fair.
>>483829942I don't use shields because I think they look gay, wielding a sword with no shield is cool as fuck
>>483829798No, you are a shitter because I played against all the bosses so far (except Radahn, saving him for later today) and found them to be perfectly counterable with a basic ass weapon + roll build, so I know by my own experience that you are a complete faggot shitter because you said>The only two bosses that had anything approaching a "fair" moveset were sunflower and putrescent knight.Post any webm of you fighting a remembrance boss for one minute. You won't though, because you are bad.
>>483829564Malenia is hands down the hardest boss to actually learn because to learn evading waterfowl dance consistently is the most annoying task the game asks of you and you can't just hide behind a greatshield and poke her through it. It is painstaking to learn the timing to deal with it in a way no other move is.
>>483829983at first, and then when the time came he clearly did not
>running around exploring the DLC with a friend>invader shows up>he starts trying to lead us to a ghostflame dragonDoes that ever actually work?
>>483829859The timeline just doesn't make sense to me, the main game makes it feel like Marika has been in power for aeons if not thousands of years but the shadowlands make it seem like it hasn't actually been that long
>>483830035>Ranni possessed by the moonI don't think the moon actually possesses people
Peko stream in 8 minutes, boys.
>he thinks it's viglmao, you forgot your level 1 skadutree
>hordes of shitters being filtered by the DLC as shown by the incessant tears in this generalNature is healing.Hopefully they don't buy the next game and leave here forever.
>>483829908>h-haha t-the p-post is you>i-it's not a strawman! t-the bosses are g-good! I'm a v-very e-elite g-gamer for beating the DLC the bosses are goodYour last (you). Enjoy.>>483830004Every boss suffers from this except the two I mentioned, one way or another.Also reminder the scadu fragment scaling and its impact on boss health and damage is counted in the boss design. The fact their health and damage is overblown to compensate for the existence of scadu fragments is part of the issue. Otherwise I'd throw Rellana in there, and maybe Divine Beast if not for the camera but then again bad camera is just an accepted failure of From games at this point.Anyway also your last (you). Please stop putting so much of your self worth in the fact you can beat these shitty bosses and you'll then realize how bad they are. And go play a good game like I dunno, Armored Core.
>>483830190>he clearly did notSource: it came to me in a dream
The level 150 meta was set up by retards from DSG who thought ER would be on the same scale of Dark Souls, when its actually much larger with tougher enemies and bosses balanced for summons. The meta should be 200-250Im taking my character to 200, 55 Vig, 60 dex and also 36 in FTH and STR so I can use the strength weapons and incantations if I feel like bonking or electrocuting things, and maybe 15 in Arc for some of the dragon spells and 16 in INT for some INT weapons and theres nothing you tards can do to stop me
>>483830035They weren't possessed, they were cursed. Possession is Shabriri body snatching.Also Ranni was completely normal, she was just diddled by some hag who was a moon schizo and fed her ideas while shoving things inside her.Melina is the only one we don't really know much about in terms of outer god curse or meddling other than having a gloam eye sealed away in non frenzy endings
In the next 12 hours Seemless co-op will be ready and we will see a lot of redtrannies complaining in this general.
>>483829960Oh, sorry. He shows up in the last fight. Thank you for proving me wrong.Ignore that 90% of the spots in the game are related to Marika and the only thing you have related to Miquella are NPCs standing still talking.Or the fact that the point where you find St Trina, the Putrescent Knight is literally called "Knight of the Gloam-Eyed Queen" showing even more that the focus was 100% in Marika's past and NOT Miquella, who was added in later on VERY sloppily.>>483830130>>483829674Just read the item descriptions. You can see Ranni's hair and Radahn's helmet mentions HIS red hair that he inherited from Radagon. Meanwhile, in the Gelmir set, the red hair only mentions the fact it's related to his father and doesn't mention Rykard's hair.
>>483830189>>483829997Waterfowl is literally the move that (should) kill people. Messmer's hurtbox sizes are ridiculous and he moves way more than Malenia. His speed is also pretty good with the spear stab.
>>483830413Who cares, invasions suck and the coop mod is gonna break again like last time
>>483830183>YEAH WELL YOURE JUST A SWEATY NERD AND IF THE GAME ONLY PANDERS TO SWEATY NERDS WHO CAN PUT A THOUSAND HOURS INTO IT THEN IT IS BADLY DESIGNEDwaiting for iti too have fought everyone but radahn and metyr with a no ash, no summon, no status effect fist weapon med roll build with gladiator armour and every boss has been more than fairbayle especially was an absolute joy to fight once I got his moves downrolling and landing with charged R2 of his head with the ball fists reliably was kino
>Greatshields are metaslop for pve nowFucking hate it
Huh? What do?
>>483828597On the Cerulean Coast, before the Stone Coffin Fissure, there is a Cross that says Miquella also abandoned his 'Fear and Vacillation'. It's heavily implied that St Trina was actively warning Miquella not to ascend to godhood as he either would not be the same as a god or his Age of Compassion is doomed to fail. He then discarded her, and states that in doing so he abandons his Love.
>I can beat boss!>that mean boss good!>my self worth is just about beating bossPrepare to Die amirite guys! Souls games are soooo hard we're so hardcore for beating them!
>>483830525One is him as a summon other is his weapon.
>>483830356the same thing can be said to what you claim because there's not enough supporting WRITTEN evidence to argue to any of this but the contextual evidence does support more the disagreement and mind control of radahn here so in the end, this whole ordeal is just really unsatisfying
>>483830525Grace gives ashOccultation gives swordQuestline is over no matter what
>>483829454Yggdrasil was an ash tree, and it's called "ask" nowadays in Swedish for example. "Aska" means ash.The first man created by the gods was created from an ash tree, and called Ask. "Spirit Ashes" seems relevant
>>483830525Grace for ash, occult for weapon
>>483830004Not him, but the Dancing Lion is a travesty, and Rellana:>has combos that never end (because they're designed to extend if you get in range or attack)>has attacks that carry her across the arena, so you can't even sippy quickly>has attacks that carry her around you when the computer realises you're attacking, and adds another string>input reads your drinking animation into her ranged horizontal arc into her stinger into a comboAbsolute nonsense.
>>483830340>still doubling down on your total lack of self awarenessactually lmao at you right nowi am extremely glad that you are getting filteredmake sure to not buy the next game and let the door hit you on the way out of this general
>>483830525If you give him the iris of grace you get him as a spirit ashThe other gives you his lootI fucking wish I knew about this mechanic I fucking wanted to kill this bitch ass FAGGOT
>>483830481Messmer's hurtboxes are not that bad and his attacks are well telegraphed with a solid rhythm that you can actually get in quick attacks through with lighter weapons. In as objective an analyzation as I have in me he is a very well designed boss. The huge snakes everywhere move is a bit chaotic to see what's going on and a bit of a gotcha because of that to some degree, but it isn't quite an instant kill like some other shit can be and that's the only flaw I could agree to with him.
>>483830584>>483830637>>483830649>>483830685Well I don't care for ashes, but is this the only place where I use those, or will I perhaps need the occultation for someone else later?
Mohg must've been doing something right considering all his followers are totally Ride-or-Die's
>>483830652>Muh sippy gets punishedGet filtered fag
>>483830231I always thought Marika x Godfrey was a thousand year like the thousand year journey other characters mention and then Marika x Radagon was another thousand
>>483830004>he has trouble with Radahnyou're in need of skill
If all of the people who could become Elden Lord had a debate to decide who would become it, what would each of them say? About themselves, and each other?
>>483830652How the fuck did you even get to the dlc and get to be a massive fucking bitch? That's on par with most bosses in the main game, Mohg included.
>>483830552>strawman copepeople are saying the bosses are good because they are and enjoyable and great when you take the time to learn themyou're the one coping and seething and saying bosses are bad because of your skill issuespost some gameplay of you fighting the bosses then and we'll all have a jolly time laughing at you
>>483830525nice shield + armor combo, what weapon do you use with that?
>>483830448"Helm worn by knights once loyal to Praetor Rykard. Its crest of red feathers symbolizes Rykard's pedigree as Lord Radagon's son." Doesn't 'pedigree' confirm this?
>>483830791WILLFUL TRAITORS, ALL!
>>483830743You will get another set of each for another character and it will be the same thing, Grace gives ash, occultation gets weapon>>483830791I beat Radahn prepatch so clearly I'm ahead of you on that
>>483827589>I mean that does sound pretty kino.How the fuck is that kino? It was literally an already tired trope in the late 80s all the way up to mid-90s because Gary Gygax couldn't help himself in half his adventures, to have somebody you already beat be necromancer'd back to fight you again BUT WAIT, HE'S STRONGER!!Given the plot, it's absolutely superfluous to have us fight Mohg in Radahn with Miquella piggyback riding. It genuinely comes across as something that was thought of as a compromise to release the DLC on estimated time regardless of how it was received. Because everybody who looks at the lore pretty much universally agrees that all the plot points leading up to it are very jumbled and make very little sense.
>>483830857>ey are and enjoyable and great when you take the time to learn themnta, but tell that to Scadutree avatar.Beat it , and I still don't like it.>inb4 summon
>very wide attack swings>fire/dmg hits through my guard - annoying chip damage>feels like some attacks straight up have hurtboxes that hit around your shield (?) and you take the full dmg>puts lots of pressure>fast spear means I can't lower my guard as often as other bossesFrom my experience.Also host died.
>Discuss lore>"The timeline doesn't make sense anymore">"Ummm, sweetie. It's a mythology. Don't take it seriously."Man, fuck those people. What the fuck.
So if you finish Rannis questline but then not choose her at the end do you get unique voicelines from her or does whatever ending you choose play like normal?
>>483831032>The timeline doesn't make sense anymore.Why?
>>483830652>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED TO BE ABLE TO RUN AWAY AND CHUG ESTUS INSTEAD OF HEALING IN THE WINDOWS WHERE IT IS SAFE TO HEAL>NOOOOOOOOOOO I DONT KNOW WHICH MOVES TERMINATE HER ATTACK SEQUENCES AND REFUSE TO LEARN THEM SO I JUST SAY SHE NEVER STOPS ATTACKINGhow are you this badthe boss tells you to stop trying to heal outside of safe windows by smacking you every time you try to do it and instead of realising "oh maybe im not supposed to just heal whenever i want" you KEEP DOING IT and then you cry about how it keeps happeningyou are unfathomably stupid
>>483831032The timeline literally never mad sense
>>483831032If you take it too seriously you'll start to enter "What was Marika's tax policy" territory of autism.
ranked the bosses in the most objective way possible: by how fuckable they are
>>483830826......isn't Pride a cardinal sin? Like, one of the "seven deadly sins"?
>>483830870Thanks. Right now I'm running with Milady, though I've mostly been using Dryleaf most of the DLC. I use every new weapon I can use for a bit though.>>483830918>You will get another set of each for another characterAh, so I don't need to worry then, thanks
>>483830950post your gameplay thenwe know you wontwe know you got filtered and had to get help so youre crying
>>483830826Rykkard would complain about the immigrants and terrorists.Radahn would say how the Lands in between lost her grace and he can make Lands in between great again.Rennala would act just like Biden acted yesterdayRadagon would say how the Lands in between its perfect and don't have any problem to deal with itRanni would lose 3 hours in a monologue complaining how paying taxes to the Two Fingers is stupid.Miquella would not be allowed to speak.Margit would try to put all the other candidates on the same level than him, complaining about all their mistakes and flaws.Marika would just flash her tits out and try to win an ellection refusing to speak something while escaping the allegations that she has a dick.Mohg would waste all his time trying to defend against the allegations.
>>483830764Wow, you beat her hitless?>>483830829Yes, the base game is shit, too, and I hated every second of it after Leyndell.
>>483830962Messsssmer is absolutely free for shield players. You can block every attack except for his spear throw in the air and his nova. just gotta use a fire res talisman
>>483821328>dickin around exploring before hitting the next castle>checking out little camp areas for loot and shit>LOUD NOISES>panik.mp5>didn't expect fucking jumpscares in Elden Ring>"somewhere a great rune is broken" and " a powerful charm is rendered useless" or whatever pops upAlright, just how fucked are my NPC questlines? Preferably with as little spoilers as possible
>>483821638messages are really weird for some reasonsometimes i get like 20 updoots in the span of 10 minuetssometimes i play for hours without a single updootlike cmon guys, i need those heals, i'm bad
>3 blue screens of death in the last weeki think it might be over for me soon bros.... go on without me....
>>483831156This is a perfectly reasonable level of autism to scrutinize it under considering who wrote it. Any fantasy world worth diving into can answer this question
>>483830950>Scadutree avatar.I consider that one of the fairest, most "learnable" bosses in the game.
>>483831032Are you talking about the Bible?
>>483830918>clearly I'm aheadNo, you complained about boss design so you're in need of skill.
>>483830513I don't see the problem. Blocking is looked down on by some but the way I see it:> small shieds are only good for parries> medium shields aren't OP, the stamina damage and chip damage actually require resource management> greatshields force you into strength build (or very high level build) and one-handing, which sacrifices some fun.Maybe normies will actually improve if they block a bit and use guard counters. I think it's certainly more fun than solving everything with Taker's flame which was the previous pve meta for clueless people.Also new strats will be found, even if it takes long as with elden stars
>>483831261How about you post your first? You are bragging about your skill after all.
>>483831216yes
>>483831338that actually progresses them all, if you talked to everyone you're good
>>483831216God isn't real dummy
>>483831216Yes
>>483830950>still cryingpost your gameplay or gtfo faggot
>>483830513It was always meta, its just that Malenia was the defacto ANTI-shield boss so people tend to ignore that it was any good on Elden Ring.
>>483831340Getting a nice and comfy Kernel Power Error 41
>>483831423but youre the one crying about how the bosses are bad and unfair and how boooohooooo woe is me?show us that you arent just a shitter passing off your skill issue as "muh bad boss design" thenshow us your gameplay
Nice to get some more proper unga armor. Just wish there was more then all of 1 bear incantation. And that the bear claw weapons didnt look like shitty oven mitts.
>Decide to coop for Death kNIGht because I need 20k runes to level up>get summoned by mage who gets caught in the health drain attack and dies in 1 hit
>>483831216Yes. God made that fact quite clear
>>483831156Reminds me of this:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyQd7TEOwK8
>>483831549>bragged about skill>doesn't post his own webm>can't even read the "nta" part
name a worse designed boss than Astel
>DARK LIGHT CATACOMBS>it's truly so dark that i had to use the starlight spell for the first time everbravo, niggazaki
ninjin ninjin ninjin ninjin
>>483831340I used to get it all the time before i did a full driver update. I used a software to diagnose and download the driver updates because i'm not that good with 'puters
Why does everyone have normal proportions but Messmer and (I'm assuming Miquellas true body is weird bc of the arm we see in the cocoon) What the fuck is the deal with their limbs. There has to be something special with that right
>>483831261>>483831423>>483831531>>483831549>>483831636Get a room, faggots
>>483831636>made claims of boss being bad>gets called out and asked to post footage showing they arent a shitter>panics and goes "no u">gets ignored and asked to substantiate their claims>anime image and delusional greentexting
Are Pure int and faith memes in this game? Thinking of going pure magic with minimal weapon requirements but not sure of my options..
Did I beat the game, if I used a str/arc bleed build solo?
>>483831757no, magic cheeses the gamethe question is do you like swinging weapons or using magic? because they're pretty separate
>>483831730>I used a software to diagnose and download the driver updates because i'm not that good with 'puterssay it ain't sothose things are NOT trustworthy at all, but if it worked for you than ok i guess
>>483830371That hag was her grandma too. Also the gloam eyed queen. And marika's sister.
Im getting so sick of these fucking you don't have the right and fake secret wall messages I wish downvotes can hurt the person who wrote them, like cause them to stagger and lose all stamina or suffer a hit
>>483831828you didnt beat the game because of the images that you save
>>483831637Valiant Gargoyles
>>483831637Seriously? Where to start?
>>483831743What's special about Messmer's limbs?
>>483830826Nothing, the player character is a mute and nobody else has the chops. It's why everyone else doesn't have the guidance of grace anymore and are reduced to trying to math out the state of the world (Goldmask), get impregnated by a dead guy for child support (Fia), smear shit everywhere because nihilism (Dung Eater), smear shit everywhere because Marika picked somebody else (Gideon) and put on a 5 star retirement match including a last minute heel turn when you murder your long time tag-team partner (Hoarah Loux).
Messmer is fucking my ass but he's a really cool fight, the snek is really hard to dodge and the burst of thrusts before he plunges and launches the spears out of the ground gets me everytime
>>483831847>those things are NOT trustworthy at allThis paid software was trustworthy (just trust me even if i can't remeber it's name)It completely fixed the blue screens
>>483831838I figured all of the new melee sorcery/different incantations would make magic based builds more varied. Or is it still better to just pick the most efficient ranged nuke and press r1 intermittently?
>>483831637DLC Radahn Phase 2, Commander Niall, Fire Giant, Twin Gargoyles, Triple Crystalians, Crucible Knight Duo, Dual Pumpkin Heads, Ulcerated Tree Spirit... there's a lot.
>>483831838>the question is do you like swinging weapons or using magic? because they're pretty separate*blocks your path*
>>483831976>burst of thrusts just roll twice towards him
>>483831637
>>483831757I went pure INT for a run, and it only became fun for me when I picked up the MLGS.
>>483831156Well, everyone knows that Marika tax policy is to each village/city to give their 10yo boys to be raped by Marika non-stop to guarantee the continuation of the Greater Will followers.
REMINDERTo thank this absolute chad with which From started to punish panic chuggers who expect to get free heals after they made a mistake.This absolute unit caused so much seethe in the general when he made his debut back then and hard filtered people like no tomorrow with the officially lowest number of successful runs against him by %.His legacy has carried on and to this day sloppy sippers are being punished and crying about it while refusing to learn their lesson.Thank you Raime.
>>483831637I hated Astel when I was new at the game. Completely different now.
>>483831828is that jennie????
>>483831637DLC Radahn, DLC Gaius, DLC Lion, DLC Rellana, DLC Putrescent Knight
>>483831637Maliketh.Astel's only true issue is having just one lock on point
>>483831893how about now? i was around when Oblivion was released, never in a million years could i have predicted that insane storyline.
Midra is Marika's father. His name starts with M and ends in A, which in this game, similar names are used to show lineageNanaya( shown here smiling and pregnant) is Marika's mother and a maiden of the three fingers, possessed by Shabriri, who has shown himself capable of possessing bodies of those close to the person they're trying to influence3 fingers planned everything right from the start and caused all this suffering, knowing an Elden lord would eventually come and possibly become the Lord of frenzy flame
>>483831342Considering that GRRM asked that of LoTR, no, it's not.
>>483832065>cums toxic on youUwU
>>483831976>the snek is really hard to dodge and the burst of thrusts before he plunges and launches the spears out of the ground gets me everytimeHoly shit, how are people having problems with the snake attacks? They have huge wind up tells to dodge, I think the biggest problem with this fight is how easy the P2 moveset.
>>483831838>they're pretty separateNo they're not. Stuff like Moonveil, or the Wife Sword requires minimal stat investment for a weapon to swing as a wizerd
>>483831743I have the same proportions as him, lmao1.93 m, 2.06 m wingspan, 70 kg
>>483828549Marika's children rebelled to try and gain some power, it's fine to kill them off
>>483832187im so glad i dont know any of these bitches that you postyou are probably mentally ill
How to git gud at parrying in Elden Ring? I've played Sekiro last year and really enjoyed it (probably even more than Elden Ring), so I decided to try and focus on guard-countering / parrying while playing DLC. However, while guarding + counter works rather nice, I can't seem to land consecutive parries at all, even with golden parry. Also yes, I'm aware, some bosses/big enemies are unparryable, I'm talking about the ones I should be able to parry if I weren't a shitter
>>483831083>Miquella gets kidnapped, Marika sorrows>So his disappearance happened before the Shattering>Except that Radahn and Miquella fought in the Shattering, with her saying that Miquella is waiting for him>Except that Freyja got healed by Miquella in the Swamp of Aeonia"When the fuck did the Shadow Realm got sealed?">Godwyn's personal armyOkay, after the Night of Black Knives.>Radahn and Gaius studied together in SelliaOkay. So it should be after the 2nd Liurnia War.>"The scarlet butterflies are as the Goddess of Rot's wings. Bereft of a master, they were soothed by Romina, who reached out to them."So, it happened AFTER Malenia was born, since Romina acts like their mother after Malenia abandoned them?My problem with this is that you have so much time and so many characters were already born yet they act as if Messmer got sealed away early on. As if the Shadow Realm never existed in the first place.
>>483832357>parry brainrotgo back
>>483832204>Shabriri allowed himself to get pregnant while possessing a womanWhat's his endgame?
>>483832357use a buckler
>>483832352so i won the game, then? thanks for confirming, anon. :^)
>>483832357Parries in souls games are much harder than sekiro due to the wind-up and active frame difference.
>>483831420That's my point though. I used a greatshield all the time because I realised how good it really was through trial and error while every other person sat there mashing L2. It's sad to see it happen this way.
>>483832447dont talk to me mr brainrot
>>483829430>play Occult Venomous Fangs>see red dude for the first time>cast Endure>he's dead 3 seconds later>I heal because of talisman+sword OHlol so ez
>>483822445Racism between drakes (two legs) and dragons (four legs)No joke
>>483832398no issue with asking about how to get good at parrying, faggot
>>483831743Marfan syndrome
what is the point of non-bleed daggers?
>>483832447no, you don't talk to me first. im not gay. like you, mr. gay guy.
>people complaining about bayle despite being one of the best drake bosses (or dragon) in the series and on par with midir
>>483832568they dont have bleed on them so they dont cause bloodloss
>>483831315>"Dearest Miquella has promised me the VP slot, Radahn!"
>>483832639it's just shieldfags seething over actually having to roll for once
We had a monkey boss in Sekiro that farted and threw shit on us, we got a hippo in the DLC, which in nature use their tails to spread shit around to mark their territory.Will we get an elephant boss in future games? Beserk had a load of elephant based monsters in Emperor Ganishka's service
>>483832503Bayle? More like BASED.
>cant even reply rightyeah, definitely brainrot, probably american
I can't wait for co-op mod to release this weekend.Playing through the DLC co-op looks like a fucking drag with how much empty bloat there is.It's bad enough WITH torrent.
I have won... but at what cost?
>>483832782ebin
>>483832782Bayle?
>>483830950>Scadutree avatar.What's so unfair about it?Good moveset with a tiny gimmick between the phases, literally what are you talking about
>>483831216Wait until they get a load of my new idea: "Wrath Month".
>>483832804Co op has been an awful experience in the DLC. The bloat makes most builds completely unviable for bosses.
>>483832843try fingerbut hole
>>483832204so you're telling me shabriri took backshots for the sake of his grand plan?
>>483832797Learn about timezones, anonand increase your rep_pen
I want a 150 build that can use dragon incants, can use the meteoric great sword and can do the DLC without problems, possible?
>>483832639for me its just the fact that he never stops and im just watching him do all this cool shitsame with many others bosses too, maybe these games are not for me anymore
>cold bestoc>lightning bestoc off-handfuck you miquella
What the fuck is the point of the poison purfumer bottle kek? If you want poison that bad just throw a few knives or fire a few arrows, why use a strictly worse version of some for poison of all things? Shame since I like it’s green clouds
>>483832913I was having plenty of fun being a ranged-shitter in coop bosses using bolt of granssaxprobably my best success rate too
>still talkingew
>>483832913>talking about bloated world>you respond and start immediately crying about bosses which has nothing to do with thatCould you do me a solid and not air your skill issue in public for one moment? The bosses are fine, the empty ass world with fuckhuge space and no torrent is not.
CURSE YOU MIYAZAKIYOU WILL RUE THIS DAY
>>483825587fuckin hell anon are you trying the dlc at level 30?
>>483831878>For some reason got access to the servers for like 2 days on release (consolecuck who will not pay for PS+)>Forst time playing with messages and bloodstains>Dozens and dozens of shitty meme messages and fucking assholes trying to put messages on stairs and shit>Snoy remembers I don't pay for my internet twice and cuts accessThank god, that was a shitshow
>>483833041we're probably going to keep talking so you better look away
>>483832945Yes.Getting impregnated by a decrepit old baldy like a gold digger whore was the next step of his master plan to burn the world with no survivors
>>483833065So, it's pointless opening after all?
>>483832993to off-hand with better perfume bottles and make retarded colors
>>483832965>he just never stopsYou're a moron.He has LOTS of openings on most of his attacks.He has more openings than most base game enemies.
>>483825934doing this challenge without even parrying is impressive
>>483832267>LoTRtrash for babies
>>483833059>cryingIs spamming this in response to people your idea of shitposting? You have to be 18 to post here.
>>483832962maybe 60/18/24/40/10/7/25/45 + some strength-boosting talisman. This sword is str with arc tax. And I forgot FP reqs for casting breaths, but it doesn't matter much, claw and maw are the fun ones
>>483832369>MIquella gets kidnappedWhat? This happened after the shattering. Miquella goes and does a bunch of stuff to try and restore Godwyn's soul and all. His disappearance is recent and as far as I'm aware always presumed to happen while Malenia went out for Radahn. Messmer was sealed away early on, prior to the shattering. What about this doesn't track? They're all immortal, most of them have been around for a long time. It's entirely possible Miquella and Malenia never met Messmer, but we know he met other demigods and we know that M&M met with Marika's other children too.Also, specifically to Romina, that isn't saying the butterflies are from Malenia/the Goddess of Rot. It's saying they are as her butterflies. They could well be a source of rot from before her in the first place, tended to by Romina, as there is no master for them in the Shadowlands like there is outside of it.
>>483833065Pfffft
>>483832804ds3 should be quickstep with murky, person who made this obviously never played ds3
>>483833159my mental illness guess was on the mark then
>>483832962All that is possible depending on your skill level
>>483832804>DLC co-op looks like a fucking drag with how much empty bloat there is.But the dlc is much smaller and denser than the base game though.
>>483832639The fight is excellent but>can only lock on his head>at the end of 3 consecutive dragon bosses
>>483830747mogh probably wasn't much different than morgott, but he was just disillusioned with the golden order. he found a new god to follow.
>>483833223meant to say "strength-boosting gear". Obviously sword should be mostly 2h to improve the str scaling
>>483833269>can only lock his headWhy is this a problem exactly?You should be hitting his head. Almost as if the game is trying to tell you that too.If I can reach his head reliably with fist weapons then you have no excuse.
>>483833173seems like it, yeah
>>483832903For me it's Sloth Month every month
After using the throwing dagger I had a bad feeling about the weapon class, but ma the claw of night are amazing. Fucking love fan knives for fucking around but now they’re a legitimate weapon that deals really fucking good damage. Somewhat wish the light attacks were also throwing attacks but having a bit of melee is nice as well. It also has a rapier style back step cancel on it’s charged heavies which is stylish.
>>483833241Yeah. Possible, but maybe not enjoyable.>>483833241Who are you even talking to?
>get ready for 2nd dlc playthrough on new character>arrive at gravesite plain>just stand there and think about the skabadoosh fragments for a minute>close the gamehelp
>>483831315>Marika would just flash her tits out and try to win an ellection refusing to speak something while escaping the allegations that she has a dick.She'd win.Or well, she might win. Women would vote en mass against her but men would vote en mass for her. it'd be an interesting situation.
>>483833250I spent over an hour exploring the frenzy forest and left with like 3 items of any import...
>>483833059>Anon is talking about an awful Co-op experience>Which also relates to bossesI know you want to be le skill based pro Fromsoft player, but most of the time you're getting summoned to viglet host with 3 scadutree fragments, so now you have a boss with 50k HP, that will 2 shot you with 60 vigor and oneshot the host.>>483833224>What? This happened after the shattering.Yes. I'm aware.But then:>So. The Haligtree, now but a husk... I heard speculation Miquella embedded himself in the Haligtree,>but before he could finish, someone cut the tree open and absconded with his infant form.>Indeed, it seems those words held weight. How vexing. That the All-knowing didn't have the full story...>Perhaps the Queen's sorrow was justified... Ah, my apologies. Lost myself, for a moment there.This is the part I don't get it. Marika wouldn't be crying for Miquella if it happened after the Shattering, she's locked in the tree (pretty much dead).
>>483832280Sorry I'm not an epic pro gamer souls vet nigger the long wind ups mess with my instincts
>>483833065Skill issue.
Anyone tried Black Steel Twinblade as a sacred faith build? Says it gains further power with holy imbuement
>>483833419unironically just cheat engine them in
>>483833419CE the skibidis in. makes consequent runs way more enjoyable.
>>483833059well he's not wrong, radahn for example gets an absolutely absurd amount of health even with 1 summon. sure, you can "outskill it", but it certainly isn't enjoyable in the slightest for a fight to take three times as long just because of numbers.
>>483833432Well, you're definitely right about that area at least. It really should have been smaller and go harder on the stealth gimmick
dont care about pvp, but BLind Spot feels so goddamn good in bossfights, its almost like sekiro combat. does it stay useable the whole time?
so i just beat godrick but im not sure what im suppsoed to level to make this weapon stronger
>>483833358His moveset encouraged me to hit his left leg. (Or what's left of it). Definitely not the head. That's where explosions and fire happens.
>>483833443I read it as him talking about Queen Marika's sorrow at the death of her children in general, the sorrow that caused the shattering, knowing what foul fates befall her descendants with death back on the table and the ruptures of power.
>>483833513It's alright. I got better results softcapping str and using order's blade with a 13/27 int/fth split though
>Halve the effects of skibidi fragments>Make it so summoned phantoms and invaders keep their current skibidi level>Nerf the PISS out of Radahn>Fix Gaius's hitboxes>Nerf perfume stagger, increase perfume status build-up, make it so poison perfume L2 doesn't poison the user, and make it so rolling spark only creates as many explosions as it has room for>Nerf the chicken wingIf they did this shit this DLC would be 11/10, solid 8/10 as is.
>>483833617then just hit the leg? what's your problem?
>>483833250Not really?In the base game there is pretty frequently items of import in the areas and if you come across things such as smithing stones it is still useful as you are upgrading and progressing.The DLC on the other hand is the same empty open spaces with nothing but some crafting materials nobody cares about or some shitty low level smithing stones which also dont matter since the majority of people will have the bell bearing for those by now.I've spent so much time in the DLC just running around searching for stuff and finding absolutely fuck all because there is nothing of import there, it's just a massive amount of bloat and it would be improved significantly if cut down.The base game had bloat as well but it wasn't this bad to play through.
>>483833625>Queen Marika's sorrow at the death of her children in generala common mistake
>>483833604>does free frame 1 invincibility into a quick no-recovery attack stay usableeven fingerprint shieldpokers have more skill than you
Yo these CGS holy omen warriors are fucking cooked. Every move is a roll catch like what the fuck? I knew I was casualizing this DLC with my first playthrough being a greatshield one, but by fucking god these assholes are overtuned.
>>483833358It makes the camera shit itself once he's on you. Gives me flashbacks to King of the StormNot saying the boss is bad, it's actually the best boss in the DLC, but not targeting his head is annoying. It's just Igon's there Ahab'ing so I tolerate it.
>>483833609You don't need to worry about stat scaling until the weapon is like +16 and you're higher level. Level vigor if you don't know what you need and put points into whatever you need to use the gear you want.
Seamless coop is still dead right?
>>483833676Oh, I'm not that anon who you replied to. Still give me a good reason not to give him more targets when other dragons have them. There isn't one. It's just stupid.
>>483833250The problem is that there is nothing worth looting in the areas. Shit like Cerulean only gives you shitty loot that you can buy in the main game or don't need.
>>483833118Same experience, except I forked over for a month because I want to try invading again.Now, literally every message is>Liar aheadthen sometimes, but not always>Hidden path aheadOr, almost without fail, one of the following>need healing, therefore praise the message!>try finger, but whole>I want to go home...and edge!>Fort, night!One plus side of the seamless co-op is that it should filter this faggotry into a separate server, or whatever.
my biggest complaint about INT/FTH caster build is literally just the archaic menu for spellsyou have to press a button like 6 times to select the spell you wanna cast during a boss fight, while the boss is spamming 339128 skills in your general directionit feels so outdated but they refuse to change iti'm always limited to having only 2 or 3 spells equipped because of this
>>483833617You didn't learn his moveset then.The moveset encourages hitting his head on all but one or two attacks where it is better to dodge into him and then go hit his leg before moving back to his head.He's the exact same as midir in that they specifically made him so that you WANT to be in front of him and hitting his head.
>>483830935Assuming this is the final content we're going to get ever of Elden Ring, it is a fitting finale, for me at least. Everything was established before hand, this is why it worked for me. From the familiar face, to musical callback, and most of all the presentation it all serves the climax in a great way.In the base game from start to finish you hear about Radagon and how he was a mysterious but very important figure, and then you fight him, even though up until then you had no idea of what his role was going to be at the end.Doing the same thing in the DLC (aka fighting someone you never met) would've been redundant. I understand why they did it and enjoyed it. Maybe you can call it lazy fanservice, but the way they've done it worked great, especially since it's the very end of Elden Ring. The utter lack of Melina and additionnal NPC dialogue for the base game is a fucking travesty however
>>483833787last update was over a year ago so yeah
Do scadu levels transition into a NG cycle?
>>483833709>find item on a corpse>1 furlcalling finger remedy>enter forge>smithing stone [1]>Enir-Ilim, last zone>mushroom, beast bone, furlcalling finger remedy, fire arrows:)
>>483833787>>483833882It was updated days ago retards
oh look its another weapon that has some piss measly scaling in int/fth/arc that makes me unable to use it on my pure strength buildoh boy i love not being able to use most strength weapons because they had to throw on some dogshit secondary stat that it doesnt even scale well with
>>483833642I wish poison perfume was just an infinite use item I could slap on my bar for the off chance I want to poison something that’s actually weak to it. Fuck using a weapon for such a weak status
>>483833414lol
>>483833902yes
>>483834045Are you still caped at 20 regardless or can you go above?
>>483834045what really? thats unexpected
>>483833989it literally wasnt, idiot
>>483834007That's literally what it is. And it's deadly poison which is much MUCH stronger than regular.>NUH-UH IT HAS WEIGHTIt weighs a whopping 1.0. Wowee.
>>483833997shut the fuck up and level to RL300
>>483833604Half the time, it carries me around the boss, slashing at thin air, because they never stop fucking moving.
Midra's sword seems to have some fucking retarded hurtboxes in PVP for the weapon art god damn
>>483833997they clearly meant for people to go above level 200 and beyond with the DLCrellana's sword is a literal joke if you're not that high level
>>483833960REWARDING EXPLORATION BROTHERReally though if they just condensed the DLC it would be far superior.Also the quantity of cliffs and edges that mean you have to keep doubling back and overlapping through several areas to check you haven't missed something tucked behind some random rock at the edge of the area it's just so fucking tedious.And you HAVE to do it because there is shit hidden like this that you do want to get.I'd say about 40% of my time in the DLC has just been spent riding around on torrent finding worthless filler items.Really lowers the overall end grade of the DLC for me, everything else has been great.
>>483833989>>483834146why do you have to be mad?it's only a gaem
>>483833843>You didn't learn his moveset then.I don't feel like I needed to. He died just fine with my tactic. If they wanted me to hit his head then I have to say they didn't do a very good job of signaling that.
Do you think I can become an online sensation to surpass let me solo her(he uses summons btw)?I have already helped around 70 people instakill bosses, I am basically better than him already.
I love the messmer knight spear it's amazing with the spear chucker ash of war. Even bosses get stunned extremely easily./
how is Estoc in elden ring compared to how strong it was in das3, want an early game weapon that can help me breeze through the game
>>483833065LOL
>>483834331>sucking the fun out of fights completelylame
>>483834146>He doesnt know Pfthaaha, fucking retard. Enjoy not using it then.
you won't believe me but it will be announced there will be a second smaller dlc for elden ring it will focus on the gloam eyed queen. If you want a spoiler she was messmer's sister, melina is her millicent.
>>483834314>lock targets his head>he spams a firebreath move at you while you are under him that is specifically designed to tell you to get out of there>the camera is horrible when you're under him and janky as hell>most of his moves end with his head close to the ground and within your dodge range so that you can land easy headbonks after dodging his attacksI don't know maybe you are just very bad at taking a hint.
>>483834423If they wanted a fun fight they shouldn't have summoned, not my problem....
>>483833642>Nerf the PISS out of RadahnSkill issue
>>483834152>>483834262That actually makes sense when I think about it.Huh.
>>483833639It gains really nice AR with str and going into heavy or fire with flame spearthought it would be better with sacred and sacred blade
>>483834536give me ONE reason why I should believe you
>>483834147>deadly poison Well shit, think it’s worth a bit of arcane investment to get the bare minimum to use it on my dex build? I’m using a low of the ping knives, bombs, off hand crossbow, daggers like a underhanded rogue type play style.
>>483834331Amazed they haven't fixed it yet. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't know how without breaking something.
>>483834423>>483834647He's absolutely right. If they gave shit about their experience they wouldn't have summoned.
>+25 weaponI guess he didn't beat the game.
>Tries to do the DLC without searching for anythingThen I spent 3 hours trying to find how to reach here, because I both played in offline and MISSED the illusory wall, even though I checked for them. (had to search for it)Another 2-3 hours trying to reach Shaman Village from the Shadow Keep, forgetting about Marika's statue (got it because I got lucky)
>finger areaARE THERE ANYTHING WORTH SEARCHING?
>>483834365one thing i noticed is the r2 isn't a double hit anymore
>>483834331Depends, do you have someone you know to ask you to make a fake hype post and a community too dumb to realise that phantoms enjoy significantly easier dodge timings against that particular boss?You already have the cheese build you just need the others.
>>483834647>>483834778your mindset is the death of these games
Hey is this safe to do? I want to get back into the DLC on a new character without wasting time in the base collecting all this shit.
>>483834801There's a duplication coffin and a gesture
>>483834536>smaller dlc after a big dlcWouldn't make sense from a marketing point of view, people have big expectations for anything Elden Ring related now.
>>483834542>lock targets his headnot the first stupid lockon in my career>he spams a firebreath move at you while you are under him that is specifically designed to tell you to get out of thereall dragons do that, you just move back and keep whacking. also his tail is in range during that move>the camera is horrible when you're under him and janky as hellthat's all dragon fights. I'm assuming it's by design at this point>most of his moves end with his head close to the ground and within your dodge range so that you can land easy headbonks after dodging his attackshis head is always close to the ground, but as I said, that's where biting and explosions happen so I am in no way inclined to be thereThe leg is superior because you can just keep charging heavy attacks during his attacks instead of dodging, or waiting to punish.
>>483834647a good point actually
>>483834863What gesture?
>>483834863Where's the gesture?I found a tailsman and coffin so far.
>>483834273>explore finger ruins>nothing>really obnoxious enemies that detect you from 10km away that are also able to attack you from that far>>483834860it should be.
>>483834915try finger but holethe two fingers
>>483834860yes, items are pretty much always safe if you're not a retardjust don't change your character's stats and levels manually, give yourself runes and level up
>>483834831The mindset that killed these games is the lack of elitism and gatekeeping of normalfags and morons.
>>483834331>>483834647>that Albinauric face jumpscarejesus christ
These messagefags really think they're fucking comedians huh
>>483834915>>483834927
>>483835061>>483835061
>>483835020Peak retard
>>483834831Miyazaki catering to the "jolly cooperation" reddit faggots certainly hasn't helped.And no, that's not what's killed these games: that would be the power creep from Bloodborne, where it was perfect, to Sekiro (where you had the tools to deal with it, to Elden Ring, where you're thrown all the way back to DaS3 movement in a Sekiro environment.
>>483834097>>483834140Yeah, cap is still 20
>>483834863I wish they'd give us a try hole gesture
I summoned in every Souls game but I beat Sekiro/AC6 100%. I use every game mechanic.
>>483835036He got you pretty good.
>>483835020>cheater>tranny character Every. Single. Time.
>>483833820> no hidden path ahead, therefore praise the message!>9999 darkvotes
>>483833432hopefully you learned your lesson, anon. use a fucking guide with souls games, always. the questlines and item locations are always complete horseshit.
>>483835137>nooo you have to play how I wantyep I'm thinking you're the cancer here
>>483834691His uncle works for Nintendo.
>>483833960>Final area of the game should just be giving you ancient dragon smithing stones x5 and x40 of each bolus for clicking on a shiny objectkek this isn't Dragon Quest.
>>483835374it shouldn't be giving you easily craftable recipe and (item you have a bell bearing for), for sure.
>>483834941I loved searching all of that massive empty area to find absolutely nothing except the remembrance duplicate spot.The thick mist was also great since it made you waste even more time searching closely for all the absolutely fucking nothing in that area.But hey I guess it looked cool for the first minute or so worth it right?
>>483834365no more true combos (except the new colossal for some reason and secret jump tech)
>>483833763>it's actually the best boss in the DLClol, lmfao even
>>483830035>Ranni possessed by the MoonThe moon is an outer god?
oh shit
>>483821558Pretty based list, although I think Romina should be above Rellana and the dancing lion.
