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>Latest patch
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>Main information document
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>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
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>>483835061
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>>483847982
I wish invaders and hosts could summon spirit ashes and make them fight like pokemon against each other in a Spirit Ash Colosseum
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Marika did nothing wrong
Messmer did nothing wrong
Mohg did nothing wrong
Placidusax did nothing wrong

>Verification not required.
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>>483847890
Doubt it, Melina was very likely still in the Lands Between and her being burned and bodiless is because she tried fruitlessly to burn the Erdtree the first time around.
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>>483848134
>Mohg did nothing wrong
he's a filthy OMEN
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>>483847983
Repostan this. I suspect it's because Fromsoft games make an environment where you attempt to build up "gamer cred" with zero actual effort.
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>Poison Flower Blooms Twice rots people in pvp in two hits on phantom hits
>on an ash with Piercing Fang tier range and a bit of evasive capabilities
Jesus FUCK
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>another empty area
oh fuck sake. Also, who the fuck is Charo?
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why didnt romina and rellana get cutscenes or dialogue
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>>483848103
What is the lore behind the golems, they felt like a real copy paste of generic D&D enemies does any item even mention them
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asking here again, Whats better, a weapon with singular S scaling or 2 B scalings with quality?
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Cuteposting has fallen.
Millions must die.
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>>483848253
Zanzibart's son.
>>483848293
They should have given her boobs.
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>>483848293
Romina is such a wasted boss and way too undertuned
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>>483848293
The same reason why almost no DLC bosses get them in souls games. Be happy you got incredible cutscenes for Midra and Messmer
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Does Urumi with keen infusion and lightning bolt still deal massive damage or was this patched/changed?
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>>483848365
i dont know
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>>483847885
>We fight a shit ton of Furnace Golems
>Messmer had way more, going by the destroyed ones you find
>Hornsent, on the other hand, have fucking nothing. Just some Gundyr looking motherfuckers.
>Messmer can easily kill Divine Beasts by himself
It was not even a fight.
Unrelated, but it's sad how I thought Messmer would actively hunt us down and scout areas with his flame. Similar to how Morgott has Night Cavalries.
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>>483848293
Because it's not actually productive or smart to monolog at someone trying to kill you.
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>ah, dungeon food, delicious in dungeon
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>>483848293
rellana exists to be a cuckquean
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messmer is a retarded bossfight and miyazaki shouldnt be ridiculed and criticized for it
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>>483848426
lighting bolt was made slower a bit and thats it
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>>483848365
If the S is in Strength, the strength weapon. If the S is in Dex, the quality weapon.
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>>483848030
>Fans love lore and talking about it
>VaatiVidya is pretty much the most popular souls content creator, and he only talks about lore
>Miyazaki himself doesn't give two shits about it
>It's cruel.
it's smart and why Miyazaki is so good, he knows it's about gameplay first and foremost. It's what separates him from the cringe movie game wannabes

will also add that his vague storytelling style is critical to FROM's development process and success, allows them to take more risks and be more flexible because worst case they can cut back on the concrete plot points if they run out of time and then glue some stuff together
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>>483848293
I swear they spend all of their budget on dancing lion.
How the fuck did we go from main game bosses cutscene to this shit?
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Dlc isn't hard, you were just supposed to use every tool in your disposal.
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I have become ancient dragon man
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>>483848293
Romina is so funny
>going through beautiful ancient ruins
>suddenly rot everywhere with no lore or explanation
>recycled base game rot enemies with no lore
>encounter big scorpion rot boss matching the exact description of the rot god from the base game
>it's just some fuckoff nobody not mentioned anywhere before this with no lore
>she's mandatory for some reason
You just fucking know this was the cut sealed rot god from the base game repurposed because it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
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>>483848253
>everything north of where the miquella arm teleport drops you is full of places and content
>entire chunk of the map south of that is completely barren
I dont get it
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Bros, why did he do it
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>>483848404
Why did Midra get a cutscene anyway? He's a literally who residing in literally where.
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Magebros - I really wanna try the new Ash of War. Is Milady with the super Carian ash of war better than the DMGS?
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If the base game used DLC standards then Fallingstar Beast, Loretta, Godskin Apostle, Godskin Noble, Commander Niall, Dragonkin Soldier, Elemer, Death Rite Bird, Draconic Tree Sentinel, and Valiant Gargoyle would all be Remembrance bosses.
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>>483848668
Anon was a maaaan.
Or maybe he was a draaaagon man.
Or maybe he was just a dragon.
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>>483848723
because he's cool as fuck
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>>483848702
but you can leave a "nice view" messages on the ground there, thats the gameplay
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Is he right
>>483847775
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>>483848365
usually the singular S scaling one because that frees the points for anything else. spending points to get damage out of multiple weaker scalings is usually not worth it

i think most of the "quality" style weapons are balanced for retarded ng++++ shit where you're SL250 and you want to squeeze an extra 70 AR out of a weapon. i think even then you're usually better off infusing for blood/cold instead and never actually quality unless the mob is immune to statuses
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>>483848368
It's over. No more cute fanarts.
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>>483848614
I can totally agree with NEVER making souls into movie games but the vagueposting like lore has gotten off the rails at this point, everyones mad about "trans" gay pedo relationships like 90% of people missed the fucking point of the alchemy metaphors by a WIDE fucking margin.
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>>483848647
>max skibidis
>mimic tear
>summon whatever story NPC is available
>steamroll game
>nothing personnel
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>NG+
>Level 250
>Skibidi level 18
>Moore's shield/Sword lance block n poke build
>No summons of any kind
>Beat Radhan this way

Did I actually beat the game
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Scubasteve frags were such a mistake. Helping people with bosses is a miserable experience because literally all of them are way underleveled and the host always gets two shot. I did co-op for an hour last night and only managed to kill Midra and Rellana once. Also, Radahn has way too much hp bloat for coop, he must have like 100k.
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Messmer was a good guy
>Jar hospitals to help save the mutilated shamans trapped inside
>Even honored his foe by building a museum to preserve their memory
>Loved by his loyal followers, except for two niggers that went rogue
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>>483848647
I mean it's obvious the DLC is designed entirely around using spirit ashes and summons in every boss.
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>>483848750
carian sovereignty is extremely broken, does ridiculous stance damage
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>>483848702
The worst part is that there are few skibidi fragments there, so it was shitty to explore too
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>>483848848
not really, but who cares
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>>483848345
There’s some fucked up, mad glintstone engineering, going on behind the scenes.

You now remember that one Wandering Mausoleum in the snowfields………
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>>483848370
Rellana stole all the DLC's tiddy
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>>483848293
>people actually upset about this
I'm glad they returned to more DS1 style, not every boss needs a fucking cutscene and dialogue. It became overplayed in DS3 and Elden Ring base game

main issue with DLC is the complete lack of buildup for most bosses, not the lack of cutscenes or talking. Compare that to BB where you had Ludwig and Maria built up in base game and Orphan of Kos was indirectly built up because you were wondering what sin they did that made them so desperate to hide it
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>>483848836
it's a fucking atrocity.
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>>483848647
T. Miyazaki
Kinda remind of Dragon Dogma once you bother to learn about boss weakness and prepare for it instead of movesets.
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>>483848674
I suspect she was originally a boss of the base game, maybe the rot avatar we hear about from that stinger weapon, and got repurposed as a dlc boss.
Like is she a Hornsent? A disillusioned Messmer soldier? She has no lore whatsoever.
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>boss with no fogwall
>can't cheese it from outside
these games are just productss now
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>>483848836
Cute fanarts...
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>can get radahn to 2nd phase
>can't even learn it because I'm dead from afterimage light beam spam in 2 seconds

miyazaki is shit at his own games and expects me to solo this
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>>483848862
>Though he remained a devout follower of Messmer after his flight from the Erdtree, he would rebel after learning of his liege's serpentine nature. His righteous stand was rewarded with imprisonment in an underground tomb.
>Though a champion of the divine beast hunt, he followed his father, Andreas, into rebellion against Messmer, and like his father, he too was imprisoned in an underground tomb. Messmer mourned the loss of a brother-in-arms.
What was the fuck Andreas and Huw's problem? They're perfectly fine with genociding the Hornsent but take issue with Messmer being a snek, even though Messmer is suppressing the snake? Bitches
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>>483848774
TROGDORRR
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>>483848614
> will also add that his vague storytelling style is critical to FROM's development process and success
Yes, but the point is, he isn’t that serious about it. It is clear he just wings it. It is an apparent fact, that he prefers using ideas to telling a story. Vagueness just goes in with it, as it’s conveniently useful to fill in a bunch of gaps. Someone points out a discrepancy? “It’s, uh, part of the lore, ya”
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i want to go ng+ with the backhand blades and kung fu fist but i feel like going to ng+ is effectively "retiring" your character because you end up leveling away all its weaknesses and basically just turning it into a very generic "cheese enemies with infinite health/defenses" thing

it would probably make more sense to hack in those weapons for a ng character but that would be feelbads and cheating
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>>483849173
but duuuude it looks so cooool

i went like "woooooooah" when that happened
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>>483848723
Because they wanted to portray how a lord of frenzy will fight like, even if he's not the true one.
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>>483848862
>Horniggers rape and kill Marika's people
>they start putting people in cumjars
>finally have enough and rise up and kill them
>come into power, banish the rest to the sewers or outside of the land instead of just genociding them (as they deserve)
>even the perfumers get tired of their shit and become Omenkillers
>first thing Hornsent does after you help him kill Messmer is invade you the next chance he gets because he is a fucking nigger

Kill
every
horned
monkey
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>>483848874
Summon using shitters and "souls vet" seethers alike disrespect the work and artistry put into Elden Rings boss designs when they spread this fucking retarded myth that helps both parties cope. If you think the bosses were designed around having their AI split between two targets you have a rodent IQ
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>got to Messmer
>computer immediately starts chugging and I get raped from lag
Cool
Anyways I didn't even expect him to be behind that door, why is Messmer in like some corner cuckshed of the castle? This guy lives like this?
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>>483849173
>expects me to solo this
I put those spirit summons for a reason retard.
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>>483849248
>it would probably make more sense to hack in those weapons for a ng character but that would be feelbads and cheating
Who cares, it’s a single player game.
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Whatever happened to this?
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>>483848889
Okay
Hopefully Ranni is fine with my playing around with her aunt...
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>>483849316
Yes. He's depressed. Sorry.
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When can you enter the DLC? I'm still in the middle of playing the base game desu
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>>483849361
i think the tree died
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So what was the point of all those Miquella Crosses? "Here I cast away my ____" stuff? I expected Miquella to be some sort of hair/tree hybrid abomination because he'd been casting away his body left and right but instead it's just Ramalamadingdong again.
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>28 new incantations
>only 4 of them require arc tax
>14 new sorceries
>5 of them require fth tax
>the strongest sorcery requires only fth and 0 int
Int-bros, how are we coping?
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>other games that have large open worlds with little in it for the sake of having it
DOGSHIT, HORRIBLE, LMAO LOOK AT THESE DOGSHIT DEVS STOP MAKING LARGE EMPTY MAPS THAT PAD THE GAMETIME
>fromsoft does the same
OMG MIYAZAKI I LOVE YOUR EMPTY OPEN WORLD SLOP THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS DREAMED OF IM GLAD THIS GAME TOOK 5000 HOURS TO BEAT BECAUSE MOST OF MY TIME WAS SPENT AS A WALKING SIM

I love Elden Ring. However, it suffers heavily from the lack of focus and careful crafting the more linear souls games have.
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>>483849281
we're talking about the DLC here, theres no artistry in any of these bosses. except death knight. he was cool.
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>>483849185
It makes sense since you pretty much had to be a zealous GO fundamentalist to sign up for Messmer’s crusade, and the GO hates sneks.
Were the Black Knights or the Fire Knights more elite? The Black Knights seem like his field cavalry and the Fire Knights his personal guard.
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>>483849357
>Who cares, it’s a single player game.
me
>why
idk it just is that way

the main way i could imagine doing it is in randomizer and rerolling until i get a character that starts with them
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>>483849281
>Radahn's boss fight is literally a spectacle designed around summoning multiple story-relevant NPC phantoms
>t-they didn't design around this
>it was an accident!
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>>483849432
Beat Mohg. You can go there pretty early by doing Varre's quest or you can go there pretty late by reaching consecrated snowfield
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>>483849450
i dont know but you get scaduudle next to them
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>>483849491
>I love Elden Ring.
prove it, post hours
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>>483849450
self sacrifice ritual to become a god.
first one is his arm
st trina is his love
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>>483848718
because st trina was gay for miquella so he had to (literally) dump her
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>>483848750
a dagger with cariagn sovereignty is better

this game is literally just "spam L2"

I can't believe I actually kind of slowly hate what this game has turned into
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>>483849487
>the strongest sorcery requires only fth and 0 int
The broken one requires faith. The new gravity explosion is the real winner. Versatile and strong as fuck
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>>483849432
beat Mogh and Radahn. The entry point is Mohg's arena. Be at least level 120
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>>483849564
Fire Knights knew about his snakey secrets but BKs seemed to get a lot more practice actually murdering people.
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Ah man, it's a bit of a bittersweet feeling seeing the pvp oldguard die so hard. Running pokes have never been less relevant.
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>>483849105
What little lore she has suggests she's a Hornsent (or otherwise contemporary indigenous denizen) priestess who went rotmad when Messmer's crusade burned down her church. We see that scene depicted in the trailer, with her humanoid form cradling her glaive.

And that's like, it. That's all we get.
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>>483849361
it just looks like that in some places
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>>483849361
Fuck you retard there's no cut content kill yourself
>>483849450
>Here's where I remove my arm, eyes, flesh, whatever
>Show up just fine, actually, he has MORE arms now
>>483849573
>Thollier gets stuck in the fog wall
>Radahn gets 1000k HP and the NPCs dies very quickly, can't even dodge his orbital laser or the meteor
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>>483849653
Did any item descriptions mention why Radahn reject Miquella during the shattering?
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>>483849534
>theres no artistry in any of these bosses.
me when I lie
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>>483849580
you need to kill radahn too
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I can't find the will to invade anymore
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>we only got an arm instead of an entire corpse

when miyazaki it's the ultimate bleed weapon
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NOOOOOO MIQUELLA IS LE EVIL I CANNOT DRAW HIM DOING ALL THE LE CUTE TRANS FEMBOY TWITTER TRENDS?!?!?!
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Miquella sex... Miquella mouth ses... Miquella butthole sex... Miquella hand sex....
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>>483849749
Radahn isn't homosexual. It was just a literal "no way, fag" moment.
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>>483849564
>It makes sense since you pretty much had to be a zealous GO fundamentalist to sign up for Messmer’s crusade
But people from the Erdtree actually hated him? I can't remember the description right now but it said something about it.
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>>483849609
That's why I assumed he'd be some kind of tree hybrid, whereas he'd fuse with the yabadabadoo tree or something. But at the end, it just turned out that the big tree was ultimately pointless?
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>>483849872
Pvp in er sucks cock, it turned me into a coopfag.
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>>483849361
Literally just one of the different skyboxes for a time of day.
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>>483849573
>points out the literal single exception as if that makes the rule
Like I said, rodent IQ, you have all the INT of a rat

>>483849534
Sad you didn't even get to experience the kino of Midra or Messmer because you walked in and rang your gay little "I need help" bell right away
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>>483849573
proof?
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>>483849872
this means you are growing up
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>>483848840
>everyones mad about "trans" gay pedo relationships like 90% of people missed the fucking point of the alchemy metaphors by a WIDE fucking margin.
Radagon was not originally a part of Marika in-canon, this is mentioned in numerous places (eg Melina at Marika's Bedchamber), the foundation of you alchemy extrapolation schizotheory is quite *literal* tranny headcanon pushed by zullie because trannies are nu-age zealot freaks that can't look at anything without seeing aspects of their religion in it.
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Once you guys reach the desirable level what do you do with the souls surplus?
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Bros which disable EAC doohickey works righ now?
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>finally ready to light the forge (holy build)
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov0X4549kbg
help
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>>483849923
Everyone in Elden hates Messmer because he is objectively correct.

>kill Hornsent retards
>kill Tarnished retards
>admonish your mom's stupid decisions
>reject snake bullshit
>get stuck in the Retard Zone
>impose as much order as you can manage
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>>483850045
I've lost over 30 million souls in ds3 because I just kept invading I don't give a shit what happens to them I'm drowning in runes anyways
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>>483849973
do you not see that the sap and veils are gone?
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>>483850045
buy smithing stones
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>>483848293
romina got the trailer
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>>483849749
Only real thing is that supposedly the demigods went a little battle crazy. Maybe why Radahn looks all dark and purple in the trailer but now he's clearly brown skinned (But Mohgged)
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>>483849897
had to stop using the arm because i was going for dragon incantations as my main source of dmg and the weapon was just too good
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>>483849276
>irish accent
fromsoft.....
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>>483849749
do you need one when it's obvious based on context?
>would have to kill his own father to replace him as elden lord of a new order
>overthrow the GO he loves
>would require him to stop halting the stars
>age of compassion/peace has no appeal to him
>radahn isn't a fag
there's like 10 other reasons Radahn would reject him
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>>483850045
buy greatbolts for my jar cannon
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What are you doing? Why aren't you saying anything to him?
You're just sitting there thinking about sitting there thinking about sitting there. Why are you such a mess? Can't even muster up a simple "hello." Look at you, stuck in your own head, probably making him uncomfortable. Everyone else is chatting away, and there you stand. And still. And still. How hard can it be to open your mouth and say something? But no, you're just the queen of silence, the master of missed opportunities. He's not going to notice you if you keep this up, might as well slap a 'Do Not Disturb' sign on your forehead. Pathetic.

Its slipping away. Seriously, what's wrong with you? People are laughing, having a good time, and here you are, the awkward statue in the corner. Worse than that, you are at the center, you're next to him, its there but refuse to do anything. Why? Your chance is slipping away, and you're letting it happen. Do you not know or do you just not care? Youre a mess. You do know and you do care, but youre still lwtting it fall out of your hands. Not even, you refuse to even give it the chance to happen. Youd rather self flaggelate than take a second to try. Youre an emotional abortion. Maybe thsts what you want, you get off on it. Maybe you should just accept that you're destined to be the one who never speaks up, the perpetual outsider. It's not like anyone would miss your voice in the conversation anyway, right? Just another face in the crowd, right? Until it's gone and nobody notices and everything passes it by.
You won't do anything, you never do
I dont know what else I expected
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>>483849910
>didn't fuck his feet
you didnt beat the game.
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>still no covenants
>4 player limit
Shit so gay
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>>483850014
>the foundation of you alchemy extrapolation schizotheory is quite *literal* tranny headcanon pushed by zullie
i've known its a metaphor for alchemy and kaballah since the network test that I didn't even play, from the cut content map icons, you fucking retard.
why you think godfrey has a lion on his back, coincidence? conjoining of the sun and moon masc and fem, because its "trans"?
why are people stupid?
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>>483848293
too sexo for western audiences to handle so they had to cut them out
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>>483849973
Explain.
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burninating the country side
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when did they decrease the white mask invaders from 3 to 2?
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>>483849749
I imagine Radahn told him he had to fell him in battle if he wanted him to be his Lord as his part of the deal, hence Malenia's need to nuke all of Caelid to bring him down.
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>>483849872
The fact that they made it impossible for it to not be a 3v1 99% of the time is annoying
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Lorelet here. Why is Messmer part snake? What the fuck is the snake orb hiding inside of his head that you can see after he ripped out his own eye?
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does the dlc scaling and the scadu thingies mean that your rune level going into the dlc doesn't matter
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>>483850546
Idk
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>>483850469
yes anon, the jewish philosophers stone doesn't exist and won't turn you into a woman
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>>483849749
Radahn didn't reject him, he agreed to the proposal and everything from his boss name to the final cutscene of Miquella wearing an engagement ring makes this clear. People are just denying it for now because it makes Radahn look really bad.
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>>483849923
Messmer’s Crusade seemed initially popular but its reputation soured when people thought he took it too far, and of course the snek rumors.
Me? I think he didn’t go nearly far enough.
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You guys play with any mods?
I'm using the Pause Mod, and one that replaces rolls with BB Beast dodge.

I tried to use the Sekiro deflect/dodge mod but it was fucked and not working.
Also use a hair mod (Radagon) and one that replaces Torrent with the Nightrider Steed
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>>483849986
>>483849764
>15 second long combo
>aoe
>100 pillars of (thematic damage/status effect)
>boss retreats to the other side of the arena
>catch up
>15 second long combo
>aoe
>100 pillars of (thematic damage/status effect)
>boss retreats to the other side of the arena
high tier gameplay.
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>Omen were torturing the numen or whatever
>Marika becomes a goddess
>she tries to genocide them
>Omen are eternally salty about it as if it wasn't justified
Did I get it right?
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>>483849610
Got more on the PS5 too because I got it for both PC and PS5.
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>>483849361
cut content

please buy elden ring 2 for the continuation
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>>483850613
just proving you're a fucking retard.
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>>483850587
The scadus multiply your damage and defense, so your base stats very much matter.
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How will Fromsoft upgrade their combat system from here?
It genuinely gets boring now after 4 games
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>>483850485
It’s fucking dark souls 3 all over again WHY CUT AND REARRANGE SHIT FOR WHAT FUCKING REASON
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>>483850628
>Pause Mod
What is that?
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>>483850546
He got cursed. Marika sealed it in his eyes.
>>483850138
I mean, those are all Golden Order stuff.
>Kill Hornsent
They did.
>Kill Tarnished
Everyone hates us.
>Reject Snake Bullshit
Still considered enemies of the Erdtree. Rykard too. Snake helmets for gladiators because they want to see them getting beaten.
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>>483850546
>snakes got a bad rep after being associated as traitors
>implies they were allies of GO previously for that to happen
Marika plapped the snake god at some point
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>>483850546
Just like Malenia and Miquella, Messmer was born afflicted, on his case he had some sort of evil in the form of a snake, the eye he removed was a seal developed by Marika to hold said evil. Or something among those lines.
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>>483847982
https://www.frontlinejp.net/2024/06/28/two-years-in-new-elden-ring-survey-shows-players-fave-weapons-bosses-and-more/
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>>483850646
yeah like I said they're fantasy biblical jews, they got what was coming to them.
The 3 lioned headed demi gods you have to fight as you go up the tower were really cool though.
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>>483850546
>It is said that this woman, named Daedicar, indulged in every form of adultery and wicked pleasure imaginable, giving birth to a myriad of grotesque children.
Marika was bored and horny after Godfrey left. Messmer was the product of the Rya method of making a kid. The snakeskin in Gelmir matches up with the snakeskin in Bonny Village.
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Why do (You) think you're worthy enough to see His face?
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>yoooo what if we make this whole area needlessly big??
you know which area I'm talking about
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>>483850680
Ok, you may have your opinion, but the way you worded is still pretty dumb.
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I feel like this game would be improved if they had a character like Blaidd that was a girl. IDK I just think that would be an improvement.
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I decided to trace my path to the remembrance bosses and also bayle to show how insanely convoluted and intertwined the paths across this map are. It's insane how much they squeezed into that while basegame was pretty much a few long paths along the landscape.
Please dont crucify me if something isnt 100% accurate or the colours arent 100% indicative of difficulty, theyre not meant to, only to differentiate rough progress.
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>>483850887
I beat Radahn twice. Give me that mouth hole.
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>>483850546
All of Marika’s children are deformed in some way, physically or spiritually or both. Messmer’s particular deformity was that the base serpent (same abyssal entity that devoured Rykard) took hold of him from birth. It seems the best way to keep it under control was locking it away behind his eye.
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>>483850894
liurnia? cerulean coast? abyssal woods? which one bitch
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>>483850894
Elden Ring
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>>483850934
I also stood in one place and did nothing.
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>>483850887
cause I pre-ordered both times?
alternatively cause I beat the game with no summons (people or spirits)
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>>483850837
>The 3 lioned headed demi gods

Are these elders?
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>Finally got to the final boss, never watched his fight even though I did know who it is
How the fuck do I deal with this light show? There are pillars of light non-stop and I can barely see anything let alone find a window to attack.
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>>483850642
>>15 second long combo
>>aoe
>>100 pillars of (thematic damage/status effect)
>>boss retreats to the other side of the arena
>>catch up
>>15 second long combo
>>aoe
>>100 pillars of (thematic damage/status effect)
>>boss retreats to the other side of the arena
me when i lie and exaggerate
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>>483850909
millicent
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>>483850372
i would say hello to him if the game would allow me to see the character the entire fucking dlc is based around as more than just a fucking backpack in a cutscene
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>>483850934
Fuck exported the wrong alyers
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>>483850934
Nice lines bro
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>>483850887
Shut the fuck up Leda, you dumb bitch
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>>483850934
?
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>>483850642
Just because you're too retarded to find the openings doesn't mean it was "balanced" around summons. There's nothing wrong with using them but you're a faggot for insisting the bosses were designed to have their aggression split to cope when that very obviously isn't true
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>>483850796
Press P and the game pauses. That's it
I play offline
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>30ft tall
>grey skin
>red hair

was Radahn originally meant to be a giant?
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>>483848134
>Marika did nothing wrong
murdered her home village and countless thousands of others to build a Divine Gate to make herself a god. Also seems from some of her quotes from Melina/items that she wanted to make the Hornsent's rituals like the Divine Gate, which require mass sacrifice, the main order of the world for gaining power. This is also before all the more recent base game antics that set off the main story, almost all of which are "evil with good intentions" tier
>Messmer did nothing wrong
Pussy that wouldn't stand up to his mom, committed atrocities that revulsed him, but kept doing it so mommy would like him. Once he finally did the right thing and blocked Miquella from becoming a god, he just waited patiently in his tower for the Tarnished to kill him like a Disney villain instead of setting up some sort of failsafe.
>Mohg did nothing wrong
Agreed
>Placidusax did nothing wrong
Agreed, but he shouldn't have let Bayle get the drop on him at the height of his power, seems like that may have been the "shot heard round the world."
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>>483851267
I mean isn’t it implied Radagon has giant blood in his line?
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>>483850795
From and Mike Zaki have always been pretty upfront that they don't care about the lore. They do just whatever and whenever they want.
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>>483851204
>Michael Zacky creates game
>includes summons
>says it's okay to use them
>literally makes them mandatory to complete several NPC quest lines
>says he personally uses them when playing the game
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SUMMONS ARE CHEATING YOU CAN'T SUMMON THEY DIDN'T DESIGN THE GAME WITH THIS IN MIND

Why are Soulsniggers like this
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>>483851056
Yeah they're like just below the sculpted keepers of the divine beast dancing lions, or maybe above since they have real lions heads. Theres only 3 total and 1 doesn't respawn so they're the rarest Hornset enemies and also the most powerful
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>>483849248
I've been giving myself different weapons / armors at the start of ng with CE for like 6 runs already
The game remains the same, even the best weapons un-upgraded are ok for early game.
Only problem is high stat requirement weapons.
Pretty good anyways
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>>483848293
because romina is the worst boss in erdtree
she was just filler
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>>483851384
Summons make the game too easy. Sorry. If you can't beat the boss and need a summon, that's fine. They objectively didn't design the game with summons in mind, unless they intended for boss AI to break.
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>>483849343
shut up miyazaki you're just mad that one anon drew an ms paint comic of godwyn+miquella and you had to change it
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>>483851271
>horniggers are raping and killing your people and stuffing people they don't like into oversized cum jars and you are powerless to stop them, unless you ascend to godhood to blow them the fuck out

Again, she did literally nothing wrong.
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>>483851271
>murdered her home village
no, that was the hornkikes.
she went back to HEAL her village, but everyone had already been jarred by said hornkikes.
>and countless thousands of others to build a Divine Gate to make herself a god.
hornkikes are not people.
>Also seems from some of her quotes from Melina/items that she wanted to make the Hornsent's rituals like the Divine Gate, which require mass sacrifice, the main order of the world for gaining power.
source? my interpretation was that she got her power from manus metyr, ie. fusing her gold with its order to create the GO and the erdtree.
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>>483851267
so the golden order assimilated everything it came in contact with so it could be part of the order. radahn got the giants fire in him so yes he's growing bigger by the day. Leonard's a big ass horse too radahn just ends up growing that fucking big.

marikas empyrean nature and the golden orders need for assimilation let all the other outer gods get their shit into the mix so marika keeps having weird babies
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>>483851096
He's looking at you.
Say something.
Why aren't you saying anything? You're blowing your chance.
What's wrong with you? Can't you see how pathetic you are? You can't even talk to a guy without freezing up.

You're never going to find love if you keep acting like this. No one wants to be with someone who's so afraid of their own shadow that they can't even say hello. You're a loser and you always will be, You're never going to find love if you can't even open your mouth and say hello.
You're such a disappointment. Everyone else is out there having fun and meeting new people, and you're just standing here like a wallflower.
But who are you kidding? You know you're going to mess this up. You always do. You're a failure, and nothing is ever going to change that. So just give up now and save yourself the embarrassment.
You probably already have missed your chance, its been too long a pause. Even longer now. And now.
Why did I even bother?
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>>483851524
It's funny if you look at the article
>Miyazaki: I use everything at my disposal because I am bad at video game
>using summons == being bad at video game
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>>483851271
Marika didn't kill her own people she was the last survivor of her village, she's as reedemed as Mohg after the DLC
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is it bad to stay at 150ish?
I want to be summoned as much as possible.
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>banging your head against a boss wall for hours until you beat it
>dozens and dozens of attempts
>endless agony and frustration
>all so 4chan won't make fun of you for using the easy mode button
Yeah nah, if I'm like 10 tries in and I clearly see I'm not gonna make it I'll just pop a spirit ash and I don't give a shit
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So this is the "strength" of your average hostcel these days...
Embarrassing. Can even one of them still put up a fight?
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>>483851181
>>483851165
>>483851045
Yeah, i exported the wrong layer, duh.
>>483851150
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>>483850793
In Elden Ring 2 sprinting will be removed, and holding down the roll button will instead let you automatically rollspam. This will be mandatory for bosses' 20-hit movesets as your iframes will need to be perfectly timed.
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>>483851706
>see Miquella
>drop my spaghetti
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>load first ER character
>not really feeling the vibe and don't want to respec
>switch to 2nd character who is 115
>build is crap enough where i don't mind respeccing
>can't decide what build to use
>also progressed too far into the story to do any npc quests, which i skipped on that character all of them
>have start the entire sixty hour game over again if i want to get quest related stuff
>with quests that are seemingly just random and obfuscated for the sake of being obtuse
what should i do
stick with the INT build
reroll the 2nd build and make it something f*n despite not having access to everything i may need depending on the build
or
start a new character with a build in mind, burn a week or two of time getting it through the game so i can play the dlc
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>>483851271
>murdered her home village
based speed reader.
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>>483851797
THEY HAVE SNAKES IN THEIR VAGINAS
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>>483851829
you give a shit enough to tell us you don't give a shit
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>>483851384
>>>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SUMMONS ARE CHEATING
I said they're perfectly fine to use, you're obviously insecure and shadowboxing every person who's ever called you a shitter in some faggy schizo meltdown instead of addressing what I actually said. Just play the way you want and stop being so fucking desperate to convince sweatys on the internet they should approve of your playstyle. Just don't insist the bosses were designed to have their AI split between two targets because again, that very very obviously is not true and no amount of cope mald sneeding will convince anyone that it is
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What weapon should I use in combination with this throwing shield? I'm not gonna roleplay as fucking Captain America
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>>483851062
You spend 10 hours learning it or you swap to shieldpoke.
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>>483851661
god can you imagine getting to knock up marika tho
I wouldn't even care if the baby came out rotten, giant, retarded, eternally shota, whatever I just wanna PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
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The only wrong elden ring opinion is being a hornsent sympathizer
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Would a big smooch from Miqqy fix her or make her worse?
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ashes of war are cheese.
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>but down summon sign
>get summoned
>loading screen
>host dies in 5 seconds to the boss while entering fog wall
JUST WAIT LIKE 39 SECONDS YOU DONY NEED TO ISNTANTLY MUCK INTO THE FIGHT JUST PRESS CIRCLE, DODGE FOR A SECOND PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU THIS HAS HAPPENED THREE TIMES
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i wish i were eternally shota
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How many Rune Arcs did you walk into the DLC with?
How many did you have when you finished?
I had 111, ended with 27.
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>>483851797
god imagine if ranni did this to you
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>>483851797
wtf I wish I was ginger now
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>>483852042
this
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>>483852064
Worse, for sure
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>>483848293
This boss is actually great
feels like a DS1 fight
refreshing honestly
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so now that the DLC is out when do we get the (serious) comics and novels like Dark Souls had?
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>>483851267
If the Prime Consort version of him is how he actually appeared in life, then I guess the combination of eating corpses for years (which between the Jars, DLC lore reveals, etc, butchering and consuming people en masse is how one amasses power in the Lands Between/Realm of Shadow), scarlet rot, and his great rune made him bloat up super size. His skin turning that color is probably just him decomposing slowly over time. I now get the vibe that Malenia may have never actually thought she could defeat Radahn, just went for a Hail Mary to poison him to make Miquella's plan work: someone strong enough/multiple people would come along to kill Radahn eventually, and he would be mindless enough due to the rot by that point to get toppled, leading to Miquella being able to take his remains. So Radahn may just be slowly decomposing while still staying alive through his rune/rot affecting him more slowly than a lesser person, ie he's "hollow" now.
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Ha, finally found it.
The story where Marika spanks Rennalla: https://archiveofourown.org/works/37781035/chapters/97526748
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im going to FF ending the world in real life, hope you enjoyed being alive while it lasted.
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how the shit do i kill messmer he doesnt stop
combos are massive as shit and the little break time he has between them is so short that if i do one extra roll by the time its over he has started another combo
with luck i barely getting him to half hp
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>>483851829
I've killed every other DLC boss with my trusty Milady I will kill Radahn with my trusty Milady, even if it takes me days. If ER had the option to re-fight bosses like in Sekiro I would be more open to using whatever tools I have and then re-fighting the boss with my autistic RP build at a later date, but it doesn't for some reason.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
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>>483852302
Oh no!
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>>483850372
>>483851706
Miquella is so fucking hot.
>>483852185
Wow. I understand Miyazaki now.
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The shamans should have gotten in the jars voluntarily so they could become saints. Pretty great honor if you ask me, The whips were only needed because the shamaniggers resisted their inevitable fate.
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>>483852185
somebody should swap the models and see how it looks
i bet it would be really hot
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>>483851797
I want to be the welcome mat in a carian sorority
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>>483845541
>with the fat cut out
The open world still needs more enemies and more dungeon-like path geometry. And more unique field bosses. And more actual gear to find, specifically weapons and armor sets.
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>summon sign inside arena
>so the boss can nuke you with a ranged attack or rush you the instant you press the button
Why would they do this?
Also bosses get double health when you summon, right? Does that still happen when you summon after the fog gate?
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Real talk? Having good reaction times and strategical thinking is the biggest cheese in this game. If you are good at playing video games and you get through this game without issues, you literally cheated. You did not beat the game.
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>>483852368
Why won't he look at you?
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>>483851898
>Don't want to respec
Is it just fucking autism? You get like 20 larval tears bro. Just screenshot your "original" character if you want to respec back to it at some point.
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>>483852446
reaction speeds don't matter nobody relies on raw reactions, not here nor in fighting games or shooters
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>>483852232
Hot. If I were Miquella I would get her so pent up and down bad.
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What. The. Fuck.
Just kidding, I won't have any new dialogues. Fuck you.
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>>483850372
>>483851706
are you a woman?
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But remember, using cheat engine to give myself 99 sleep bolts for the sole purpose of torturing others isn't cheating
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Thoughts?
I wanna do a Kotomine Kirei like battle priest.
Did anyone try those claws in pvp yet? Dryleaf is an excellent chasedown weapon by the looks of it.
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>Miquella hugging Radahn in phase 2
>cant have my wife hug me too so we have a 2v2 couples fight
Guess I will just have to use her wedding gift, then
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>>483851832
>kid thinks he's good because he uses backhand blades with blind spot, one of the most broken weapons and aows in the game right now

Lmaoing at your arrogance
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>>483852258
we see pre-rot Radahn in the story trailer and he's just as big and grey as he is in game
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I usually make it a rule to like kill atlwast each enemy group once/kill each enemy in Fromsoft games so that like I have to like engage with the encounters
Elden Ring unfortunately kind of broke me out of that habit which like really sucks. I don't like running past things the first time
I still do in the legacy dungeons and dungeons and stuff but in the overworked honestly like I just like ride past everything
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I'm happy I spent an hour scouring every asshole corner of the abyssal woods to get all those crafting materials and cook books
wtf were they thinking? and how did disabling torrent improve anything?
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>>483852312
>he doesnt stop
This summarizes boss design in the entire game and it's why it has by far the worst bossfights in the whole soulsbornekiro or whatever you want to call it series
They just never stop and they don't give you time to do anything. They have infinite stamina, infinite reach and range, absurd speed, all while you move like in DS1. It's not fun, and it's hard for all the wrong reasons.
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>>483852312
Walk in to arena
Wait for him to dive bomb you
Roll, wait for him to blow up, roll again
Lightning bottle his feet once, he enters FORMA DE SNAKEA
Bait the dive again
Lightning bottle his feet, death
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>>483850793
just ditch the whole honestly
I wish From to explore other generes and themes
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>>483852594
Oh yeah I didn't even bother talking to him because I just assumed they wouldn't put any effort into tying this entire DLC into the existing game. Good to know I was right.
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>>483852594
>the all knowing
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>>483852625
>Did anyone try those claws in pvp yet?

They're ok. You can surpise backhand fags with the WA when they try to dash and outdps them in r1 spam
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>>483852627
>Miquella's quote when he grabs you is very similar to what Ranni says in her ending
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>Nanaya's torch applies deathblight if eclipse shotel is buffed in the other hand

Why do these things keep happening
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>>483852048
it's interesting how the hornsent society is super ethereal and divine at the top and then whenever they come in contact with other people they're blood crazed fiends and blasphemous murderers
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>>483852627
>Miquella POV
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>>483852475
He knows I would tongue kiss him the moment our faces meet.
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>>483850793
Just give me another sekiro, no game has felt as good
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so Radahn freezing fate was irrelevant to everyone but Ranni? What the fuck was this then?
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>>483851832
Get a job. You're not better than other people
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>>483852608
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>>483852686
This location exists for the toughest, most weathered twinks eager to prove they are worthy to receive all the new madness shit for invasions.
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>>483852686
They wanted you to experience the spooky forest as if it was a classic souls level
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>>483852793
Why would you even mention this here anon also thank you time to torture hostcels
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>>483852446
Let's be real the dungeons are a complete joke. From isn't willing to challenge the players in any way outside of the bossfights.
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“BAYLE COULD BE HERE,” Igon thought. “I’VE NEVER BEEN ON THIS MOUNTAIN BEFORE. BAYLE COULD BE ANYWHERE.” He clutched his drake hunter medallion against his chest. “I HATE BAYLE. VILE BAYLE.”
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>>483852847
Both are cheating
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>get "exceedingly rare" crafting material from the madness eyeball parry fucks
>find 20 in the structure behind them just laying around
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reminder that ranni is stronger than miquella and its proven in game with rannis 1 shot attack. even miquella needs to hit you twice
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>>483852752
>Go back to base game
>Hey Gideon, um, I found this entirely new part of the world which has been sealed off, you might be interested… You know, for research…
>no response
>Go to Finger Reader
>Um, hey, it turns out those fingers you worship are really just the spawn of an alien broodmother, and they never had any connection to the Greater Will since crashlanding here…
>No response
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>>483852891
Don't ask questions.
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>>483852312
Identify which of his moves have easy and big punishment windows and stay at range to bait them out. I've found fire orb, jumping spear toss, and regular combo into jumping spear toss to have enough time to get 1 charged r2 off on my great katana.

Also don't ge too roll trigger happy if he combos you with one or two hits. His third/fourth are usually super delayed rollcatchers.
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>base game and its npcs completly oblivious to the big happening in the shadow lands
i hate when this shit happens
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>>483852919
Ill take that as a yes. Disgusting.
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Shadow's Keep is making me understand the complaints about the enemy design. Why am I fighting 10 guys in a row in these tiny little rooms? The hippo was bad enough with a "big" room.
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>>483852135
god if only id hit on so many adult women
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>>483852425
>>483845878
>>483846503
Maybe this will make me sound like a deranged from slopper shill but I like having some stretches of land that aren't filled to the brim with points of interest. I really enjoy the cerulean coast for example but I'm more of a kino enjoyer than a ludo enjoyer, atmosphere is my favorite part of any game. My least favorite part of ER is Liurnia which is full of dungeons and shit to do to the point it feels like a chore, I can only stomach going through so many catacombs and fighting so many lobsters

My only complaint about the open world of SOTE is how much of it is the same brown grass and ghost graves biome, that should've been limited to the first area, I got really sick of it after awhile. I think overall the open world design of the DLC is a big improvement over the base game
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>>483852990
That base game early dungeon with the instant death fire chariots and imp spam filtered me harder than anything in the DLC 100x.
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>>483852937
it's garbage compared to new londo ruins
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>>483853056
This shit would have had gideon all over it but NoOoO
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>>483853056
I mean like
Most things don't have much intersection, that's just kinda hoe the game is
The big shattering war is over and now like each demigod is like licking their wounds andbtrying their own paths to ascension in like secrett
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>>483851647
Can't remember the item/quote exactly, but it Marika said to her children that they needed to seek their own destiny, be it God or Lord, but if they made nothing at all of themselves, they'll just become sacrifices for someone more powerful. Incorporating all the new hornsent/Enir-Ilim lore, I think that was Marika warning them about how power works in the world: if you don't become a god yourself, or at least so powerful that you cant be fucked with, you're going to end up slaughtered and your corpse used to build a gate for some Emyrean that wants to become a God.
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>>483852519
no it's because i want the character to feel like the same person, it's my first character and it just feels wrong to respec them after all the stuff we went through together using that one build
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>>483850793
Go back to rolls being very stamina costly and make the player fight multiple enemies with completely different attributes and movesets at the same time. Slow everything down but make it less predictable and less exploitable.
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>>483848668
juicy
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>>483849026
>It became overplayed in DS3 and Elden Ring base game
Dude what are you talking about? One of the main complaints about 3 was that the most important bosses didn't get any cutscenes.
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>>483853190
The only game that had dlc interaction was the single cutscene with sif
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Is there a working version of DSAnimStudio for SotE??
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>>483848848
yes, but shieldpoking makes you a faggot
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>>483852627
honestly they should have had a temporary ranni assist in the radahn fight, would have been prime streamerbait
>all the streamers soifacing when she appears and going "YOOOOOO IS THAT RANNI YOOO WIFE?? MY WIFE??? LETS GOOOO
>chats pogging all over the place
>10/10 GOTY from every reviewer and publication
>sales rocketing
they missed out big time
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Is there any word for a boss rush mod for the DLC? I've played countless hours of the Arena Mod for vanilla. Now I want to replay the DLC bosses but have absolutely no interest in running through the world to get to them.
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>>483853203
Yeah so it's just autism.
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>>483853116
I kinda agree. I feel like the base game is too far in that direction of having fields 100% just to ride through (the dlc did better at making interesting geometry but still imo is still too far) but I like some zen moments of like just being able to path through.
It's the same feeling as once you optimized your boss run in dark souls and just glide past everything, it's a little relaxation period
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>>483852683
>Did a run where I would kill base game open world enemies to compare it with the DLC
>DLC open world enemies are literally just furnace golems, weird demihumans, birds and base game enemies like rats, plants and commoners
sigh, it's like you see all of them on the first area
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>>483852891
someone make a version of that gymnastics meme where the first is like

>base game
>Amber Starlight says stars guide the fates of the gods
>Ranni's quest says stars must be unlocked for an Empyrean to pursue the Empyrean path
>Radahn is blocking the stars
>Miquella wants Malenia to kill Radahn because of this

>DLC
>long description of convoluted godhood plot involving the Divinity Gates, the Secret Rite Scroll, needing a lord, needing a vessel, Bewitching Mohg, resurrecting Radahn in his body, a childhood marriage proposal, having Radahn agree to the plan but either renege after getting the Great Rune or demand a war first, not telling any of his followers to kill Mohg, needing to abandon his body parts but actually he had two bodies, needing to abandon his emotions, and so on

it's baffling how unnecessarily retarded literally everything about the main DLC plot is
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>>483853309
stupid zoomnigger
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>>483851797
Rellana's cool but the rest of them are genuinely awful.
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>>483851832
https://youtu.be/sKvBT0P5Klo

lol faggot
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>>483852894
>Lmaoing at your arrogance
>Get a job. You're not better than other people
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How we holding up GEQ sisters?
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i'm level 202 (no ng+) and i still have the whole green ruins area to explore
i genuinly don't understand if i'm farming without knowing it or if other people never kill ennemies when they find them, why am i so overlevel'd compared to everyone?
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>>483853379
I'm just telling it like it is
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>>483852847
Playing with optimal gear and spells reduces the number of hits to kill the boss and increases the number of hits to kill you, but you will still have to learn the boss to actually beat them.
Bleed I don't even hold much of a grudge against, as it's just making up for the reduced poise damage dex builds do relative to strength weapons.

Summons change the fucking game that you're playing. It's like some weird and janky action mmo and you're just running in there until you luck out.
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>>483852686
they wanted to make a horror themed area, good art direction but bad execution, they overhyped the whole thing, devs constantly saying "YO THIS SHIT IS SCARRY NIGGA" was not a step in the right direction

and we're talking of the same fucking studio that made Upper Cathedral Ward and Tower of Latria

they fucked up
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>>483853407
Get a job.
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>>483853337
im NOT autistic plus the character is 135 INT build and a pretty solid character i built around thatt it would weird, like a stranger suddenly wearing a friend's skin
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>>483851178
it made me laugh when the spell wore off and she became self-aware over her paranoia and homicidal behavior for companions. it seems like the spell miquella puts on people seems to cure them of any mental affliction they may have.
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I invade with swift slash until everyone but the host is dead, then I switch to a fun weapon.
I will not stop.
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other than the two tree spirits, and the path to the tree, there's nothing after draining the cathedral?
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>>483853408
we are FUCKING DEAD
>knight of the gloam eyed queen
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>>483852772
the full version is even more similar
>"I hereby swear...to every living being, and every living soul."
>"Now comes the Age of our Eden."
>"A thousand year voyage, guided by compassion."
>"Beginning here, love encompasses all."
>No living thing will be denied.
>"No deed censured."
>"I am ready, to embrace the whole of it."
>"Let us go together. Radahn, my promised consort.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12T421e7NB/
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>>483852826
cute!
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Was it justified?
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>>483853309
It's weird how they try so hard to get streamers to make these dumb reaction videos but manage to miss out on cool oppurtunities
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>>483853446
I started the dlc at 150, I'm now 170 and I'm not quite halfway through I'd guess.
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Help, I'm tweaken amd considering switching back to my moonveil and staff build
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What the fuck is the "base snake"?
Like there has to be more to it than Marika just hating snakes in general. Otherwise she would have had a problem with his winged snake friends, and him even using the winged snakes as his symbol.
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>>483853607
ok…?
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>>483853639
they meant to say "based snake"
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>>483853583
Considering the fact that there's so little information that you can headcanon any motive, yes and also no way
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>>483850616
Or the story just makes no sense and was grafted into another dlc.
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>>483853389
But Renalla is just a heartbroken woman and Ranni was just trying to change the dogshit system
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>>483853483
>135 int build genius too retarded to figure out the Rebirth process and respeccing his stats to overcome challenge

Doesn't sound like the behavior of a 135 int character to me.
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>>483853639
It's an evil snek. They used to be allies under Marikas order but then probably something died and cursed Marika, leading to serpents being seen as bad juju.
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>>483853583
Honestly, going through the story is just annoying because they could not be laying it on any thicker that Marika Bad. Like good lord, did Miyazaki throw a tantrum about all the fanart or something? You're character assassinating a bunch of item descriptions.

There's not even a reason for her to be so evil, it's just random.
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>>483853639
Snakes are scary
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>>483853553
>Ranni gives people total control over their lives, but there will be a lot of doubt and loneliness since nothing is certain anymore
>Miquella will embrace everything, but at the cost of removing free will because everything will revolve around him
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>>483852990
this

My favourite part of the DLC was right at the start doing Gravesite Plain and Belurat at blessing level 0. Even with high level gear the regular enemies could actually kill me if I let my guard down, and that added a lot of tension to the exploration. Scat shits are necessary if you want to fight the bosses (and don't hate yourself) but they unfortunately trivialise the normal enemies.
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>>483853639
Base meaning low, malevolent, untrustworthy. An abyssal serpent like the one that consumed Rykard has been trapped away inside Messmer for all of his cursed life. The winged serpent represents its opposite.
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did marika deserve the omen curse
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Holy shit... Bros??
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>dlc
>all of the characters are still just variations of the same 5 letters so you have to learn to keep track of names AGAIN
Aaaaaaa
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>you can't fuck ranni you can't fuck a doll!
nigger she has 4 hands and a functional mouth, you're not the one who's gonna be doing the fucking
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>>483853525
I spam dragonmaw until everyone but the host is dead
and then I spam dragonclaw instead
>>483853220
I wish the Bayle incants were good...
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>>483853795
no he's a level 135 int character, his int is 80
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>>483853783
Any system that keeps Omen's living in the sewers is fine by me.
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>>483853858
Marika deserved no misfortune ever, that fact she suffered though is part of the tragedy of the world of Elden Ring
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>>483853632
Nearly all of the DLC bosses resist Int hard. You will get your boipucci smashed into shards if you try it. The exception is Thorn sorceries because bleed is still broken (surprising no one)
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>>483853607
Damn you really fucked up those shades
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>3 day all boards for "troll posts" outside /b/
Did I mention my cousin literally works in nuke silos?
Start praying.
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>Sorceries
+Quick and spammable
+Very FP efficient
+Can get insane DPS with some spells
+Has the best weapons and WAs
+Best lore
+Not many mid to late-game enemies resist magic damage
-Spells are boring (like half of them just use the same casting animation)
-Whole catalog is almost all single target DPS
-Highest tier weapons are all space bug parts

>Incants
+Makes you feel like a real badass to use
+Much better crowd control
+Tons of variety
+Beautiful weapons with interesting gimmicks
+Can exploit enemy weaknesses better with its procs
+Definitely gets more love from FROM
-FP to damage efficiency lousy for DPS
-Mid to late game enemies are tickled by holy damage
-All the cool animations take forever to get off

The eternal debate. Whenever I pick one, I always end up missing the other.
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Did Miyazaki fucked up? Why are normalfags on Twitter complaining?
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>mesmmer has some weird conjoined snake thing fused with him
>they do absolutely nothing

What was the point
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>>483853879
Messmer, and who else of note?
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>go read Gaius item descriptions
>mentions Gaea

And who the FUCK is this? Is it the random albinauric that had his pants for some reason?
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>>483853894
She's gonna do that flailing 4 arm attack that the puppet soldiers do on your penis like a speed punching bag
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>>483853639
yeah I don't get it either
like, I know Mesmer is some sort of forbidden child or something, worthy of being hidden away and used as warmonger demigod to take vengeance upon the degenerates that destroyed your life
but what are the snakes even about, nobody talks about it, NPCs barely mention memesmer
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>>483854009
The truth is the only sorceries worth investing in are Frost
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>get to messmer for the first time
>obliterate him in 20 seconds first try with the new bleed sorcery
am i still on course for beating the game?
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>>483853664
>>483853664
these fucks leave themselves so vulnerable to backstabs but you can't because, you just can't okay?
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>>483853973
I prayed to Miquella. He made the world a gentler place instantly and the nukes will just turn into bubbles and rainbows now.
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YOOOOOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIREEEE FRFR
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>>483854085
either his girlfriend you can kill near his hovel or his boar.
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>>483854068
Anon they're the giant snake he turns into manifesting, they're violnety torn into his body because they're apart of himself that he denies
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>>483853967
>Nearly all of the DLC bosses resist Int hard
wait what the fuck really
what are mages supposed to do? just eat shit like we did in the late game?
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>>483853973
>My autistic NEET cousin is asking me if I can nuke the planet again "just like the frenzied flame ending from elden ring" as if I have that kind of power at my shitty job because he got banned form an anime forum or something
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>>483853906
total hostnigger death
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>>483854084
Relenna, Mesemer, and not of nite but but like I laughed when there eas a Demi-Human queen Marigga
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>>483854124
judging by the clip, you've got bigger issues than not being able to backstab them
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>>483849445
Isn’t the veil the illusion brainwashing everyone?
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my favorite part of every souls game coming out is pvpers whining and crying and shitting themselves
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>>483853870
yeah she was whipped with the teeth of her own people to stop her healing her people. Hornset are fucking cunts and deserved their holocaust at the hands of Messmer
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>>483854013
Lol, those dumb sons of bitches still think anybody at From gives a shit about writing a story. They hired GRRM and ended up trashing most of his ideas, that's your first indicator.
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>>483853973
>FUCKING JANNIES I'M TELLING MY COUSIN WHO WORKS AT NINTENDO TO NUKE 4CHUD
PFFFFFFTTTTTTTHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
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>>483854128
Until he's offered to Renalla, and pic related happens.
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Damn that Melina loredump at Tree worship Scantum was kinda out of left field. Is there indication in the base game that she has something behind her closed eye, like Messmer has the serpent thing. Them being twins is also kinda weird desu, seems the whole DLC was full of retcons
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Honest to God:
What was your RL when you beat the DLC?
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>>483854141
This is why you always keep a cheat toggle available for when you need it.
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>>483854354
ugh i want mohg to spank me like that
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>>483854369
185
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>>483854141
literally every invasion I've ever done, that or they're at the boss fog lol
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>>483853116
>stretches of land that aren't filled to the brim with points of interest
I'm not talking about that. The cerulean coast can remain empty for all I care but I traveled through this cool ravine to get there except it was just a couple of jumps and some stone birds. Why not make it an open air dungeon, a classic linear souls zone since it is linear anyway. Use the rocks and washed up tree trunks to make layered pathing and position the enemies in a way that challenges people who just blindly rush ahead. Let me earn the big empty fields, please.
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>>483854141
ermmmm red sisters??
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How do I get there? Via the river next to Ensis?
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>>483854369
Still havent
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>>483854369
rl 148 skibidi 13

after the skibidi buff though
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>>483854141
can't we go back to ds2
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>>483854141
The worst part is that they aren't even hacking. This visual vomit is just how shit looks now.
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>>483854369
176
Was originally gonna keep that character at 150, but he was tired, so after that, I let him retire with Ranni in space.
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>>483854450
secret exit of the shadow keep
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>>483854357
wtf Melina appears in the dlc? I went the frenzy flame route and so sh left me, what does she say??
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>>483854141
>full Havel meta abuser
you deserve nothing less honestly
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>>483854407
You're odd.
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>>483852243
Thank you, that was my thought as well. She was just a solid, not overtuned boss fight. Plus it's one of the sickest boss designs they've ever made. I just wish they had like an armor set or something with her colors, because the halberd clashes with god damned everything.
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>>483854141
this is literally kingdom hearts
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No matter what I do, I can't beat Rellana.
I'm buffed up to my eyeballs, 60 vig, Morgott's Great Rune, max upgraded weapons, 10 scooby doo blessings, damage mitigation Physick and the +3 physical and magical damage reduction talismans.
There are no openings in her second phase that I can capitalise on.
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>>483854369
245 or something, I was 198 when I started
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My Tarnished is enough of an idiot where if Miquella had asked nicely to be Lord, he probably would have said sure. Going into the Scadulands, he was already favorably disposed towards Miquella. Miquella indirectly gave him his starting item, Torrent, and the Spirit Ashes. He could also get behind the world Miquella was attempting to create at the Halligtree where the Misbegotten and Albinaurics could live free of oppression. And Miquella wanted change and was resisting the Greater Will as well. So yeah, Miquella was a pretty cool guy to the Tarnished, but having your followers try to kill someone has a tendency to change that someone's opinion of you.
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>Burns the thorn
>Gets teleported to Enir-Ilim
???
>>483854530
No. You can make her show up depending on where you are at in the base game since it doesn't matter if you're in the DLC or not.
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>>483854369
139
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>>483854630
bro? your summons?
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>>483854369
199
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>>483854141
learn your lesson and never get caught lackin
happens to all of us
never gonna happen again
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>>483854369
I haven't beat it and I'm at 175 with 420k runes wondering if I should still level up further since what else am I gonna do with all this money?
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>>483854630
Parry her
Use carian retaliation
Bait her chain by moving a bit forward and then backing off
If all else fails summon boyfriends and a mimic
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>>483854357
>they never intended to touch any of the Gloam Eyed Queen stuff with a 10 foot pole
Lol worthless writers
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>>483854141
Honestly this would be fun as shit if two other invaders could join into the fray, but we're in the dogshit timeline
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>>483854369
138
19 scadu
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>>483854141
>changes a bunch of shit for no reason
>doesnt immediately pump out a massive attack while you have godmode and they are spamming into him
>doesnt even try to run away with godmode to reposition
>just sits in the same zone like a dumb cunt
Trash player
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>>483854141
i'd be embarrassed to be one of those blues, along with the host.
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>>483854646
based and roleplaypilled
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>>483854510
Fucking hell
I haven't even found the way to exit north of the keep
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I think all Carian Knight Weapons should be able to be infused with custom ashes of war. Just like the fire knight and black knight weapons.
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>>483854646
niggers who add personalities and backstories to their blank slate game characters are weird
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>>483854009
INTchads know that knowledge and dedicated studying is the only real thing to reach power and an understanding of the universe and the secrets and powers that unveils
FTHcels are cringe, imagine your powers are jus borrowed by corrupt and batshit insane gods, imagine... having just faith in something gives you powers? absolutely crap
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>>483854630
Use a shield, blocking is superior to dodging
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>>483854141
>almost killed them by just pressing endure and r1
>died because felt the need to hardswappa instead of taking advantage of spawn protection
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>>483854141
>invaders spawn in with seconds of precious complete invulnerability
>this invadercuck uses those precious seconds, whilst surrounded by easy targets mind you, to instead go into his inventory and piss around with his helmet
do invcels really?
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>>483854530
She begs you to not kill Messmer as he is her twin, both are "kindlings"
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DS1 invasions were fun

how could anyone have fun trying to invade in ER unless you're doing some cheesy gravity gimmick where you push them off a cliff
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Now that we know about gate of divinity and Metyr, what was the significance of the Elden beast?
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what are the pots you throw into the giants? Hefty? I tried it and it dealt like 50 damage.
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>>483854682
No. Not again.
>>483854723
Parrying is too inconsistent.
And I've tried baiting her to attack, but she just does that insufferable Malenia faggotry of walking from side to side until I press r1, literal fucking AIDS.
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>>483854108
>implying
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is there an enemy that is immune to bleed that isnt also immune to poison
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>>483854905
>no cannon of haima
weak
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>>483854821
True. it's better to be a stupid bug with zero imagination and no soul while pretending to be superior to others.
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>>483854890
Alien
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>>483854890
Nothing. Base game doesn't matter.
>>483854893
Hefty Fire or Furnace pots, you need to throw it on the top of the head.
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>>483854740
well, the putrid knight is referred to as gloam eyed something in the files, so they were thinking about it. now, he just guards st.trina.
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>want to use greatshields for the peak aesthetic
>have no PvE left
>greatshields are useless as fuck in invasions
sad!
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>>483854369
182, 17 skadoo
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>>483854630
Just endure star fist it with blood grease. Phase 2 is a DPS race because you can't adequately negate both forms of elemental damage, roll the element you don't have enough defense for and trade vs the other.
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>>483854839
I've broken and started using the +25 Brass Shield, but that becomes useless in phase 2 when her attacks get fucking split elemental damage.
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>>483854764
>NPC boss fight reminds us how fun 3v3s were
>Default PvP is still just an arm's race between gank squads and invaders becoming sweatlords just to survive
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>>483854868
Also talks about having a similiar problem as Messmer, Messmer has the serpent behind his eye, and she was a "similiar predicament" mut this time Marika just shut the eye, instead of plucking it out and replacing it like she did with Messmer
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Anyone who thinks that Rellana is cool is a part of why the dlc fucking sucks

Just say you’d rather watch/play anime
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>>483854902
>No. Not again.
guess you won't beat the game then
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>>483855025
that's why you jump on a second run
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>>483854009
>having to choose
>not playing white mage
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>>483853375
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>>483854828
High end INT starts converging towards mysticism while high end FTH characters start spouting off calculus to cast spells.
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>>483855125
>play anime
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>>483854141
anyone who participates in online play of this game, hell, this series, is retarded. there is no value in this.
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>>483854781
>>483854843
I'm not going to defend the tryhard item swapping but there are almost no weapons / ashes that can one shot players anymore
everything got nerfed into the ground and it fucks over invaders because you can't pop in and one shot a nigger during spawn protection like you used to be able to
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>>483855195
good picture
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Wait how the fuck do I fight the golems that don't take leg damage?
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>>483854902
It's inconsistent but you can get the timing down and punish greatly with misericorde even if you get chipped, also forgot to mention use the crab and the opaline + crimson bubble tear combo for more damage reduction, the first time I beat her I turtled so you could try that too
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>the giant jar head has the highest physical defense in the game
oh my days bruv they made this kookily ahh shit optimal I cant bruh
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>>483854296
what do you mean?

>>483854369
I'm 125
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>>483855063
use a GREATshield. Like the fingerprint one, with the tinket that reduce endu cost, + other mitigation trinkets. I grew tired of dodging and beat the whole DLC iwth this shield and a spear, just like in the good old time back in DS1
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>>483855261
Throw omega pots into their big holes.
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>>483853583

I gained enough levels in this DLC to wield Malikeths blade and wear his full set.

I am now literally Marikas dog
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>>483854868
Go's dammit i started thw dlc in my frenzied flame save where I already drove her away
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>>483855195
100%
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how do you people go as hunters into other's players worlds? is there a trick?
because I don't fucking get it
I had the blue ring activated the entirety of my 60 hour playthrough and I got called 3 times
3 times nigga
what is up with this system?
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>>483854890
>Metyr finds barren worlds with no 'fractures' (think dark souls 1 world before fire, only the giant trees and everlasting dragons)
>Metyr singals to the greater will theres a world to be harvested here and an elden beast is sent/made to create the godhood system and create an erdtree. They're alien imperialists and its all about harvest the resources/souls/energy of the world. The erd tree is a massive interdimensional straw. All the outer gods are competeting aganist one another
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>>483855230
>he hasn't heard of anime games

>>483855250
That's why we needed 6 player PvP or at least a great rune that buffs invaders based on how many phantoms are present when you activate the rune arc.
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>>483854141
kino
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>>483854890
Greater Will sends out Finger Mothers like Metyr, they land on planets, if the planet is suitable they act as broadcast towers to the Greater Will who then sends an Elden Beast to parasitize it. Finger Mother then creates Two Fingers to communicate with native species.

Or something like that, I don't know, it's just what made the most sense to me.
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>>483855261
throw hefty pots on their head
they are usually next to cliffs just aggro them there
>>483855385
yeah you don't get summoned that much
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>>483854994
elden ring is not that kind of game. i suggest f-list
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>>483854893
Seems really fucked to me.
The ones with armored feet and spirit springs close by took massive damage from hefty fire pots.
Then I tried the same with the regular furnaces after staggering them enough for them to fall over and drop on their head. Hefty fire pots now did nothing when thrown into their furnace.
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>>483855385
Get fucked friendless ganker
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>>483855250
>womp womp i can't one shot people womp womp
fight like a real man if you come into my house to attack me
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>>483853073
Why did you ask that in response to those posts?
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>>483855448
>Then I tried the same with the regular furnaces after staggering them enough for them to fall over and drop on their head.
I tried this when someone mentioned in the thread and it didn't work. I felt betrayed.
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>>483855371
Just start the DLC with a new save, getting to the skibidi base aint that long since you can just skip Rellana and the Divine Beast. Not sure if you need to kill them to get Melina to appear there though
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>>483855195
Miquella has *three bodies (the body in the cocoon, the body he leaves around shadow realm and St Trina)
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>>483855385
It's rare, people don't bother turning it on much nowadays, plus invasions are rarer now
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>>483855480
you don't fight like men. Men don't spam spells and run away like pussies in a 3v1
How about I blast your fucking face off, how about that?
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>>483855404
nice headcanon. Miquella reaches godhood through the gate, ignoring EB. So EB is not that strongly related to the "godhood system"
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Why was Senessax so much harder than Bayle? I’m not the only one, right?
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>>483853858
I didn't think it was the curse, it was just Godfrey strong connection to the crucible and how he actually took pride in his connection to the crucible, based on how he's constantly using crucible spells in his fight and leads an entire order of Knights called the Crucible chads
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>>483855385
There's no point in this game. The phantom slots are usually full so even if a host is invaded there's no room for a blue, and solo hosts don't get invaded so blues can't ever be summoned to defend clueless PvErs from career sweats.
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>>483855464
yeah I want to gank reds non stop, I love tea bagging a rivers of cum users
I just want to do it more frequently
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>>483855250
>tfw giantsflame could one shot at least the mandatory vigorlets of the party
>90% of the DLC is wet terrain
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>>483854141
it's not quite as wild as yours, but still. i just wanted to throw silly little knives at people.
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Invaders are essentially E-rapists.
Be better.
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>>483855618
Because he's shitting lightning AoEs everywhere while you're standing in water that lowers lightning defense. It's a shame that none of the dragons leading up to Bayle were really unique in any interesting way.
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where did n*x go
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Why are redcels so whiny and insecure? Lol
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>>483855496
simply because he/you posted like one
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How powerful is the Dung Eater in lore?

How many people were needed to hang the bastard?
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>>483855618
both were a breeze desu
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>>483855618
Because his hitbox are shit, he's somehow even bigger so you can't seee shit, and you fight him in a puddle of water. Fuck Sneedsax, worst boss in the dlc.
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>>483854879
>how could anyone have fun trying to invade in ER

contrary to popular opinion i think it is actually fun, even against a full squad, provided those players are actively trying to clear the zone and progress and they're not some magic spam ganksquad that it usually turns out to be. i find it really fun to pick off players 1 by 1 when they are focused on mobs or distracted by exploration. success rate is still low but that's what makes it fun. if you really *need* the win then you are probably not going to find it fun, because at its core this game's pvp isn't built to be taken seriously.

if you're one of those people who only liked the "let me load up in your zone on a pvp-optimized character and stomp your shit 1v1 while i risk to lose nothing and you risk to lose everything" then you are probably more of a scrub than the people you invaded. that shit is dead and im glad

but i will say that i miss the more 1v1 or 2v2 forms of world pvp that ds2 had, like the rat covenant, bell towers and blue invasions. elden ring lacks that form of variety
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>>483855616
Anon there are different ways to reach godhood, The land of reeds is fallen to the formless mother and no doubt has their own god over there.
The EB is the one and turned Radagon into a sword effortlessly and probably crucified Marika. (I wont say killed Radagon becuse I think he was being puppted in the fight by it and was long dead already) Its at the very least the enforcer of the figurehead god to keep things going.
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Just finished the DLC, kinda want to play more but dont know what to do

Tried some invading but its as cancer as always, 2 guys bumrushing you with weapon arts while the host spams spells at you, dont really feel like replaying it with a different build either, feeling forced to fully explore all over again because you NEED the fragments
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>>483855480
>womp womp
are you a fucking faggot? The only person I've ever heard say this shit is my cousin and she's 11. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>483855705
>and solo hosts don't get invaded so blues can't ever be summoned to defend clueless PvErs from career sweats.

This is the worst part. I liked the idea that I was helping someone who really needed it in previous games, but after countless times being summoned in to "help" kill a solo invader with the host's preformed gank squad I just gave up on it.
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so Messmer only attacks us because he doesn't want us boning his mom
are we disciplining our step-kid?
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>>483855797
>when this is happening and another invader shows up and attacks you too
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WOW this is SOOOOOO fun
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>invade and kill a host
>get a useless rune arc
>they respawn 2 feet away and resummon their friends within 1 minute
heh….pwned casual….
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>>483855921
>there are different ways to reach godhood, The land of reeds is fallen to the formless mother and no doubt has their own god over there
all headcanon
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I feel robbed.
>uhh durr Malenia you'll be praised in song LOL get fucked bitch rot in hell
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Personally, I support redgods. I enjoy watching them make others seethe.

I also only play offline, so their presence doesn't effect me negatively.

Keep at it, redchads. Make the co-op chuds seethe and cry.
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>summoned for dancing lion
>scadutree 1
>finger severer
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>>483856013
>the range of that katana thrust
lel
probably the one thing that's remained consistent across all the souls games
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>>483856013
>the phantom's name
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>>483855913
>provided those players are actively trying to clear the zone and progress and they're not some magic spam ganksquad
This 100x. The most fun is invading like a mini-boss and being a menace to someone who is just trying to hit the next site of grace.
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For what fucking reason did we not get a Miquella ending route?
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What am I missing with Tholliers questline? Does he just chill in St. Trinas chamber now?
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>St Trina is a flower
>Scarlet rot is a flower
Is this connected?
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>>483856093
how do you know?
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>>483852312
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>>483850793
remove shields and make a proper parry system with built in punishes and make different styles of parries and dodges an intergral part of boss fights and mobs

kind of like Stellar Blade
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>>483856093
>summoned for promised consort
>skibiditree 12
>jump the rails
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>>483855971
Messmer thinks that Marika sent you to kill him, because he has the serpent behind his eye, Melina talks about this when she appears to beg you to not kill Messmer at the Scadu tree base pictured here >>483854357
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>>483848516
carian women become such useless cocksleeves once they find their husband or future husband
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>>483855618
>fight surrounded in water all around
>lightning dragon does what he does best
>any lightning attacks now have a aoe
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>>483855932
I started to join randos for jolly coopbut most of them aren't using shields and they end up dying in the first tens econds of every single fight
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Any webms of damnation greatsword going through reddit skulls?
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>>483856071
>running at 3 niggas in an open field
you’re supposed to put on the concealing talisman and pelt them with jar cannon for 50 minutes dumbass learn to invade properly
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>>483856071
New spells suck ass, and I question what drugs they were on when they decided to throw in a redundant and worthless and a useless PvP spell like boob moons.
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>>483850894
the stupid no-horse forest?
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>>483855949
https://youtu.be/RJElSgs9CHk?si=-W33r8cc4Vjnq7W9
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>>483855441
You just can't understand because you're a soulless bugman. It's like getting a sociopath to understand other people. Suggesting f-list just shows how narrow your brain capacity is as well. You're never going to figure it out.
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>>483856083
>One instance of the Elden beast not affecting the godhood system
>instead its this gate that gets no explanation or elaboration
Anon I don't know why you;re argueing im just saying what was the majority opinion of how the world worked pre dlc. What is the EB to you, just a parasite feeding off th erdtree?
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>>483856192
sorri gaijin no change base game u get blue doll instead. hope you rike gay marriage!
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>>483855913
Lleyndell should have been like Anor Londo in 3. That city has so much great verticality, it would have been fantastic.
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Former redcel here, not gonna lie, this is fucking hilarious watching invasions crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let the redcels get a 3v2
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If it's a one-on-one, don't summon.
If it's a one-on-one and the enemy brings out another enemy, summon.
If multiple enemies in general, summon.

That's as fair as it will ever get. No summon purists are tryhard gaywads. Always summon cowards are bitch ass niggas.
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>>483854675
>burns the erdtree
>gets teleported to farum azula
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>>483854009
go high level and 80/80
it's the best
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>>483856194
Yes. If he invaded you, that's the ending for now.
You'll met him again on the final fights.
>>483856192
Because Miyazaki decided to make him evil so we can just kill him and move on without any explanation.
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>>483856209
Open Status menu while in co-op
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>>483856192
From never makes a DLC that interacts with the base game in any meaningful way. Shame they couldnt step outside their comfort zone for this one.
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>>483852686
You need to be a frenzychad with an IQ of at least 140 to be able to appreciate the nuanced slow burn kinography of the abyssal woods.
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>>483853038
fromsoft never had any ability to write anything coherent
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>>483856209
you can check your status page
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>>483856245
oh shit she already burned up in my game
that's fucking neato
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>>483856071
>attacking in an open field
>seeing them and also hearing them casting a bunch of magic
>turning your back to said magic which is being cast
Are you retarded?
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>>483851062
get lucky with boss RNG and hope he doesn't do the most fucked up moves
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>>483856084
malenia should have fully embraced the rot
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>>483856383
>terf clobbered
lul
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radahn is omen?
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>>483856383
>the host was literally called TERF Clobberer
Holy fucking kek

God on you for blowing that troon out
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>>483856334
i understand that you are transitioning and having trouble with personal identity but f-list is literally a better outlet for your pretend-play desires.
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>>483856383
>TERF clobberer
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>>483856528
It's leftover omen curse from Mogh's corpse.
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>>483856528
no its Mohg body combined with Radahns soul
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>>483856528
His soul was stuffed into Mogh's corpse
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>>483856528
Have you missed the part where Radahn's soul was put into Mohg's body? Literally what Ansbach is pissed about?
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well this build got really boring, really fast
i'm gonna try to punch people with madness hands and see how fun that is
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>>483856071
I fucking love the
>erm ackshually according to my hindsight I would have done the [optimal play] and never have lost chuddie
Replies these always get
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>>483856545
On the contrary, giving a character a backstory instead of self-inserting shows that people are secure with their identity and are able to isolate from their characters. Your point is invalid.
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The player should have had Divine Intervention in the Radahn fight depending on which of the endings they've unlocked
>Marika endings
A beam of light knocks Radahn out of the sky and gives a passive heal over time for the remainder of the fight
>Ranni quest completed
A reskinned Moon spell knocks Radahn out of the sky and makes him take more damage for the rest of the fight
>Poop or Goldmask endings
A Margit's Shackle like effect that stuns Radahn for a short period of time with a different graphic for each
>Frenzy Flame
A scripted Madness affliction on Radahn that does damage and triggers the exultation
>Fia ending
Skeleton reinforcements
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Kill Omens.
Slaughter Tarnished.
Incinerate Hornsent.
Decapitate Misbegotten.
Purge Demihumans.
Squish Rot Pests.
Liquidate Albinaurics.
Crush the skulls of Those Who Live in Death.
Hamstring Trolls.
Eviscerate Wormfaces.

Pureblood Human Supremacy is the only way forward.
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>>483856493
shut the FUCK UP GOWRY
unironically considering that she would probably just turn into some weird creature like romina but still live, it would probably be a better ending than what we fucking got
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>>483847982
Will people do such challenges for DLC bosses?
Is it possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAhkGaK-IKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2AsfZ8WLKQ
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>>483854868
Not twins, Messmer is Marika's eldest.
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>>483856709
looks like my troondar was right
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>>483856643
Dragonmaw sounds funny until you realize a meme oneshot just makes invasions end quicker than the loading screens.
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>>483853906
Damn, the dragon form buff is that huge huh?
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>>483856351
idk, I just think that DLC added some elements to the world with no explanation of their relation to what we learned in base game.
I used to support the colonization interpretation of ER, but anons convinced me that there is actually no proof that GW is an outer god, and now Ymir support's Hyetta's version, so I think it's correct
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>>483856013
How do you make the dragon hunter katana work in a dragon communion build if it doesn't have arcane scaling?
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>>483855932
>feeling forced to fully explore all over again because you NEED the fragments
I wanted to try an int build for my 2nd playthrough in the dlc but I didnt consider this. Maybe I'll just play a good game instead.. I just grabbed Stellar Blade last week and haven't started it yet
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>Elden Ring hero Let Me Solo Her says Shadow of the Erdtree isn't too hard, "many people are just too harsh" and should "use everything at their disposal
Very cool article. Gaming journalism is a real job btw
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>opt yourself in to a 1v3
>have to fight a 1v3
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW SO FUN
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>>483856721
>Perfumers
>human supremacy
They literally advocated taking dank draughts to kill off their humanity so they could wipe out omeniggers but the rest of the post was pretty based
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>>483856643
I really wish anything except the claw and bite was usable with a dragon build.
Even the fuckhuge BAYLE spells have absolutely zero hyperarmor, like cmon
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The Twin Moons spell is by far one of the worst spells in this entire game.

So far I’ve been unable to get the Twin Moon spell to work well, even at 80 intelligence With the Carian Regal Scepter +10. The area of effect is pretty small and the damage does not seem particularly great for such a long cast animation. Might be better with more Scadutree Fragments, I’m currently at 8.

Literally all I want in this game is for one spell to be as effective when you use it as it is the enemy you got it from uses it.

How is this spell the nastiest stun-locking three hit kill when Moonygirl uses it and absolute garbage when you do?

Also Ymir’s spell doesn’t even summon a full fucking fingercrawler, just the tips of their fingers. The same way Tibia’s spell barely summons anything.

Does Miyazaki hate magic or something?
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Can anyone tell me why Seamless Co-op is not the standard co-op? As in you being able to explore the whole world in co-op together and not getting stuck to 1 shitty small dungeon or being locked out of those dungeons if you're out in the open world?
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remember when people would talk about how dark souls was "hard but fair"? and now we have elden ring where everything bosses do is just cheap obnoxious bullshit made to exploit how the game works to catch you. and fromsoft just gets away with it because of the reputation they've built up. "lol its the hard game dev bro youre surprised its hard????" crazy how other soulslike devs can still make challenging bosses that are actually fun to fight.
anyway i think i need to take a break from fighting rellana :^)
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>>483856942
>Let me solo her turned into Let me solo him because he's now fighting Messmer
>Not Radahn
lol, don't blame him
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>>483854868
That sounds weird. Messmer unlike Melina isn't a pyromaniac, and willingly suppresses his powers and have no intentions of burning down any trees. If she wants to see the kindling actually be done she should encourage you to kill Messmer, she's never had a problem with siblicide before.
Mind you I missed the dialogue so I don't have it word for word.
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>>483856942
Guaranteed the article was """written""" by feeding that qoute into chatgpt
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>>483856791
Ong already did SL1 0 Skibidi No Hit Consort Radahn
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>>483856924
So what is the Outer will if not an outer god?
>Ymir support's Hyetta's version
I don't know what this means. I thought the tinfoil theory was that Metyr was actually once a human (like Rom the vaccous spider was which Metyr really reminded me of) and wanted to be her replacement
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>>483855932
>>483856934
>dont really feel like replaying it with a different build either, feeling forced to fully explore all over again because you NEED the fragments
Somebody in last thread said you keep the fragments in the ng cycle. Dont know if thats true
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>>483856351>>483856924
and I forgot, there is no proof of EB's parasitic nature either.
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>>483857038
It's small company
Please understand
I do agree, seamless co-op is THE way all souls games should've been made. Hell I would even be happy with invasions, imagine the fucking dumb horse combat that would ensure
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>>483856192
I will not defend the quest progression of any From game, even if I religiously play them blind
the whole Quest for miquella having multiple npc going god knows where when you meet an arbitrary set of bosses/checkpoints is cryptic and nonsensical

like I know I want to check on NPCs when they talk about each other, do that, say this, make a choice. you know, ROLEPLAY but fuck man, why do I have to check the wiki to realize there's a shit ton of things that can go wrong
a fucking journal menu would not hurt your fucking games miyasaki
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Just came home. Any news? Some more leaks / info / new secrets found? Did I miss anything?
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Do I HAVE to defeat the final boss after having summoned ansbach or thiollier if I want to have their special items? Or is it enough to have summoned them and then go at it alone or with someone else?
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>>483857038
Because From can't code for shit, nobody remembers the 3 minute disconnect the game launched with
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>>483857052
>be the fairest boss of the dlc
>people love you
thank you, midra. frenzy chads win again.
>>483857197
>could've called anyone
>decide to call faggots who hate each other
:)
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>>483857038
mickey zuccinni's car broke down and some strangers fixed it for him and left so he thinks that's a good game mechanic.
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>ruins of unte
Game is giving me a spirit ash summon icon so there has to be something in this building with the dead furnace golem, but I can't find a way to get over there
Tried jumping onto the golem's head basket but couldn't get on it

And no it's not the live golem, already killed it
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>>483857253
Thy must
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>>483856872
>no argument
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>>483856414
>>483856429
oh sap thank you
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>>483857253
They will appear dead in the arena regardless if you summoned them or not.
I don't think there is a single fight that forces you to summon the person for the questline, but I could be wrong.
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>>483856942
Just saying that it's hard isn't worthwhile criticism, but saying that the bosses are too well rounded to the point where they don't have mechanical identity and their attack windows don't mesh with a lot of weapons and abilities is factual and undisputable.
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>>483857038
>>483857191
Cab you invade in seemless coop? I thought it was only to play with friends?
>>483857351
Throw one of those large furnace pots in the giant. It will wake him up.
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Trying faith now. It's lacking the pew-pew of sorcery but I'm still only going into Stormveil

Is there anything like glintstone arc or even glintstone pebble? Not talking about the beast fling since it's range is terrible
Closest I could find is lightnign spear but still wanted a fast AOE spell like glintstone arc
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I was so drunk last night when I beat Radahn that I don't even remember doing it. I just turned the game on and was standing in the empty arena and was like oh yeah that's right I killed him... I don't remember doing it kek I'm actually kind of disappointed
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>>483857351
throw pot, light furnace
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>>483856726
Better than the canon ending of me curing her with the needle at Farum Azula and marrying her after the ending? Quite a weird perspective anon.
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>>483857052
Radahn phase 2 felt like some of the horseshit I've seen in fan mods like Archthrones.

>>483857301
I genuinely thought Miquella orchestrated it so we'd kill each other in that arena as part of some ritual sacrifice requirement to attain godhood (you know, just to really cement the Griffith comparisons), but I guess it was just for funsies?
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>>483856528
Based retard-bro.
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>>483857164
based skelly chad
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>>483856812
Melina does say the word "twin" though, I guess Messmer was birthed first?
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>>483856907
at least it was fun for a few hours...
>>483856908
I've 1 shot everyone except some fatty poisenigger who took 1800 while having 1900hp
>>483856964
I use the greyoll roar too when I'm surrounded, it does a lot less damage but hits way more than bite
>>483856929
It doesn't, I'm just copying the ancient dragon man
I wish we had arc scaling dragon themed weapons... the flower hammer sucks balls
I tried a sword with crucible wings to be more dragon like and also beast claws but they kinda suck to just spamming dragonmaw and hoping you 1 shot
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>>483857432
>Cab you invade in seemless coop?
There is a way to set it up, but very janky
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>>483857164
The only thing I switched in the entire DLC was my arms for dryleaf danes cause his had more bandages.
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>>483857443
Lightning Spear is the bread and butter Faith spell for picking off enemies until you get Frenzied Burst (which is even slower but has a HUGE fucking range)
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>>483857396
I think Igon's requires you to summon
Summon sign in the arena = required summon
Summon sign outside the fog gate = optional summon
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>>483857052
I never really liked other soulslikes that werent from Fromsoft, nobody else was able to get the "hard but fair" vibe going that they did. The ones trying to copy them would only be able to make things hard by making it cheap and unfun.

Well that went out of the window now for me, cheap and unfun is basically the DLC in a nutshell. They lost their touch.
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>>483853375
>Ranni's quest says stars must be unlocked for an Empyrean to pursue the Empyrean path
Been a minute since I've done Ranni's quest, but I thought she needed the stars unlocked so that a) path to Nokron could be opened by the asteroid Radahn was holding back, and b) to ascend to the stars, take on the Dark Moon's power and leave her body behind. I remember her mentioning that she is an Empyrean, but not that she was following the path to godhood, seemed like she was breaking the cycle and doing her own thing. I know we become her consort, but is that for godhood requirements, or because she wants us to join her?
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>>483856942
I still think that whole thing is dumb
Like gee dude you soloed her woth nothing but the bare skin on his back, a bucket on his head, and duel weilding the two most powerful weapons in the game
Gee, how ever does he do it
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>>483857614
So there is no reason for me to even consider playing it if I don't have any friends that play Elden Ring?
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>>483857052
>anyway i think i need to take a break from fighting rellana :^)
I dont think there is anything in that fight what you described except occational input read on your flask with a wave attack
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>>483857164
fc when?
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this dlc was incredibly fucking short
>find messmer which is basically a straight fucking road to him
>kill him
>burn the tree and do belurat
>kill miquella

wow

>BUT THE SKADOOOOOOOOO
you may collect them since it's hard to tell what you're actually looting almost all the of the time but if you redeem them at the grace you didn't beat the game
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Has anyone figured out which new spirit ashes are the best, and if any are better than tiche?
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>>483857075
I guess it's different since they are twins, with the same affliction of having something behind their eye. Since Messmer is said to be the eldest, and Melina is her twin, she is also older than the other siblings. Maybe she does not care about them that much?
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>>483857443
Catch flame
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>>483857681
Correct

I mean I bet there is some discord or whatever where you can "find a group" but I'm too anti-social to know any details
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>>483857651
she's still following the Empyrean path

>Have you heard? Lady Ranni has departed on her journey. Along the dark path of the Empyrean, from Renna’s Rise, as she calls it. It would not have been possible without you.
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>start up game after updating driver
>get 2 scat frags and an aspect of the crucible: thorns as soon as the game loads
huh?
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>>483857651
She actually didn't want a consort which is why she hid literally all of her shit behind convoluted puzzles and encounters. She just wanted us to kill Radahn so she could do her own thing but when we figured everything out with mini-Ranni and the steps to marry her she agreed due to our competence.
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>>483857814
pretty ching chong princess she looks like she has an onlyfans
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>>483857432
>>483857449
Ohhh I see
Will do when I come back to this area, currently exploring downstream
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the DLC isn't as exciting when literally none of these freaks were ever mentioned in the base game in any sort of lore or item description
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>>483857745
Wow it's almost like the main game, where most content is optional and they don't force you to defeat every side boss and find every side area.
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>>483857614
>Have to set it up to get invaded
At that point it's no longer an invasion but an invitation, same problem with the fucking TT
God fucking damnit why did they have to fuck up the system so badly
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>>483854510
this is dumb as fuck
the amount of times shit on the map looks accessible, i mean this is why the old game hid that shit off the map
i spent hours trying to get to the back-wing of the fucking specimen storehouse, only to cave and look it up that you can only access it from the fooded district
ON A MAP WITH A ROTATING PLATFORMING GIMMICK
how the fuck was i supposed to know those specimens were fucking worthless
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>>483857745
>avoid literally every optional part of the content
>WAAAAH SO SHORT
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>>483857443
>a fast AOE spell like glintstone arc
Beast claw is the closest in terms of cost, damage and utility. For slower but heftier spells with similiar properties:
>frenzied flame
>lightning strike (repeatable)
>scouring black flame
>flame fall upon them
>dragonclaw (requires some ARC)
>bloodboon (requires some ARC)
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>>483858001
>>483857985
They could still make optional content a requirement along the way to unlock the main path.
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>>483857881
I MINDBROKE Ranni with my LOVE and AUTISM
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>>483858091
Why?
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>>483858001
Not him but it is VERY easy to end up on that "main path" thinking that's where the game wants you to go. The optional stuff is fucking obnoxious to find or get into. You have to go out of your way to avoid the main plot if you want to hit anything. I rode up to the fort and broke the Miquella boypussy rune in the first ten minutes of playing just because it was a straight line.
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>>483858136
You and "her" are still both trannies tho.
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>>483858001
for me to actually want to do optional content, there needs to be more steps to the main content that allows me to branch off.

all the optional content is COMPLETELY ISOLATED from the main content, your only reason to explore these ISOLATED SHITHOLES is to hope to find more fucking skadoo fragments. Fromsoft can't fucking write quests even with the help of gurm. I don't think any writer will want to work with shitsoft nowadays, they know how their work will be butchered and shat on by gamebrained gooks
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>>483857460
Sounds pretty based anon, you've got the right idea. In my headcanon I help both siblings. Secret rite scroll? Vessel? Don't care. Miquella is my god and Malenia is my wife.
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>>483857164
I just wanted to be a blood knight with a metal as fuck weapon and from delivered
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>>483857164
me?
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>>483858091
>optional
>requirement

are you retarded
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>>483858091
>They could still make optional content a requirement
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>>483858091
> make optional content a requirement
heh
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>Metacritic score dropped
>B&W superior
As it should be. This DLC is mid as fuck, so many baffling choices made in its design.
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>>483858221
Looks like Ranni MINDBROKE you
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Radahn looks kinda funny.
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what happened here
how did he get hit mid riposte
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This final boss still pales in comparison to the GOAT.
Sorry, but all the fucking explosions and flying around and arena-wide AOE bullshit is exactly what I hate about souls bosses.
He feels like a drawn-out vigor check
Actually, none of the bosses blow me away as Godfrey or Morgott or even the original Radhan did.
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>>483858221
tRanni bros...
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>>483858215
>>483858236
I still have no clue what your "complaint" is here.
It's optional content in a game focused on exploring the open world, what the fuck do you want?
If you don't like exploring you probably shouldn't be playing an open world game. If you play it just for combat or bosses or whatever then just use a guide if you're so desperate to experience all the content, those are specifically made for people like that.
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Breaking the rune doesn't break any quests, not a single one. You miss some dialogue but that's it, you can still finish every single quest in the game after breaking the rune and I know this because I did it myself. Killing Messmer is the point of no return, not breaking the rune. Breaking the rune basically starts the quests
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Can anyone please answer me this, I can't figure out how this works. They released an update shortly before the DLC, where they changed it so your summoning pools don't reset after NG+. Does this mean that after I start NG+, I can still be summoned for SotE bosses and other late game bosses, despite not even being past Margit?
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>>483857164
Every piece of armor I have found fucks up how the hood looks from behind, the one that doesn't (Night armor) looks kinda weird, am I cursed to use the chainmail forever?
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if messmer was born out of radagon and marika shouldn't he be an empyrean like miquella and malenia?
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VILE BALE
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I don't know how to take good screenshots in this game
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>>483858236
>all the optional content is COMPLETELY ISOLATED from the main content, your only reason to explore these ISOLATED SHITHOLES is to hope to find more fucking skadoo fragments.

You have no sense of wonder or exploratory drive. It's not about collecting 23 skidoo fragments, it's about looking at something in the distance and wanting to go there just for the sake of it. If you went into this DLC and only focused on following a straight line to the end because you lack the motivation to do anything without a narrative purpose, then I cannot fathom why you even played base game Elden Ring to begin with.
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>>483858215
>see a bridge leading to a separate landmass
>maybe i should finish exploring this part of the map first
its that easy
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>>483858597
>>483858384
At least Malenia and Melina look cute.
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>>483854141
why did he have his menu open, lol
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fuck these fire knights they do not stop attacking
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>>483854890
metyr is the golden star that bore the beast. they came together. if he functions anything like maliketh or blaidd, he's her muscle.
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>>483858681
Why is Ranni an empyrean but not her siblings Radahn and Rykard?
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Such a shame people resort to abusing Fireknight UGS and Swift Slash exploit.

My blocklist grows ever bigger than any other time period of this game lifespan
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>>483858281
I'm you, but deader
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>jolan and anna
is this a Monster reference?
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>>483858814
Nothing stops attacking in the DLC. It's trying to help you learn. Wait your turn.
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>>483858709
The game doesn’t look good, I don’t care for the visuals. This isn’t Witcher 3. If I’m going to explore I better find cool shit unless the game really is gorgeous.
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>>483858791
Hardswapping like a pro
No but seriously I think he wanted to hardswap to that scarab that makes estus heal more or something
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>>483858384
>>483858597
An ER anime would be pretty bad.
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Most fun spells?
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>>483858389
online latency fuckery
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Majority of complaints about the DLC are IQ and skill issues
>Durr map confusing
IQ issue
>Bosses too hard :( DLC too hard :(
Skill AND IQ issue
>Radahn's a fag
Just makes him more relatable to (You)
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>>483858929
lol, of course it's a Witcher 3 faggot. You're like a living parody.
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>>483859005
gavel of haima
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>>483858858
the star is the elden ring now
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>>483858865
Empyrean is a totally arbitrary thing. It's just people the fingers are willing to make gods. Basically they thought ranni, malenia, and miquella were cute.
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>>483858709
>you aint heard of a nigga climbing a damn tree
The jokes write themselves
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>>483853454
cope
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>All these bloodstains around Latenna
Huh?
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>>483857763
Golem smith is pretty tanky and Jolan and Anna may be really good or complete dogshit (they seem to be bugged for some people and have pretty much no health and damage)
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>>483858281
gib sliders
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>>483858681
who said he isn't?
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>>483858384
>Melina in the logo
Why give that non character so much attention?
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>>483847982
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Is everyone summoning for Gaius on like NG+99? Like, I try my best to help people but even with Rolling Sparks cheese I take off like 2% of his health bar at most.
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>>483858869
lmao massive skill issue
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>>483858946
Hardswapping is a disease.
I get why some people do it, and that's fine, but after I fought against an invader that was hardswapping to a different weapon after EVERY single R1 that was just sad.
Like the guy fucking spend more time in the menu that fighting me here. Obviously I killed him because I was just using the one weapon I had and just attacking him when he was menuing like a schizo
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>>483859138
Apparently if you level up Jolan before combining them it fucks it up.
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>>483859224
jim
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I finally got to the dlc and its' pretty fun, but is anybody else having some frame issues? I keep hitting 45 or 46 randomly
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>>483858549
basically you are fucking stupid

>>483858709
>brings in small penis philosophical real lifeism to a shitty dlc of a video game made with poor writing and bad design choices
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>>483859103
Some people want her armor and she turns them into pin cushions. You'd be surprised how many people immediately attack NPCs for stuff.
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God damn they hit like a truck, one in the Darklight Catacombs just one shot me while I was fighting an imp, and when I started running to him while zigzagging he melted ~80% of my HP anyway
Might be the most damage I've received in the DLC so far lmao
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>>483859240
>fp bar almost as long as hp bar
lmao
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>>483859309
yes performance issues are common with this DLC
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Phase 2 mohg murders my ass
brb crafting more blood arrows
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where do you get this shield weapon from?
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>>483858814
yep worst mob in the entire game imo dlc or otherwise. they never stop spamming
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>>483859061
>One of the most visually spectacular games ever
>Vs a from soft game where 90% of the time it’s either dark as shit or foggy as shit
NTA you were originally responding to, btw. Exploration isn’t rewarded at all in the base game and especially not in the DLC.
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>>483859310
epic
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>>483859442
there are only 2 shields and they're both in the specimen storage
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>>483859310
>Literally can't stop thinking about cocks

Please keep it up anon, this is getting good
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>>483859509
I found the carian one but missed this one. thanks
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>>483859240
For the record, their 'untouchable' protection dissipates once you parry it once. You can just attack it afterwards, no need to keep parrying it.
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>>483850695
dilate
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>>483858869
>Voluntarily opt into pvp
>Get cooked
>Block the guy who cooked you and cry about it on 4chan
Holy shit imagine being this much of a beta LMAO your momma raised a BITCH
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>>483858814
Just hit them with a colossal weapon and they will never actually get to attack.
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>Exploration isn’t rewarded at all in the base game and especially not in the DLC.
4 can play this game. NTA but you a retarded. Prolly a tourist too.
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So why does Miquella's spirit form or whatever have 3 arms?
His left "real" arm is faded out?
I don't remember this being mentioned anywhere at all
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>>483854369
I ended at 200, and I got far more coop at 200 even at the first bosses than I did at the 138 I began the DLC at. Most normal people, non-pvp subhumans, beat Haligtree at 150+, so I'd expect higher levels to be the average for the postgame DLC
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I don't like miquella anymore. He was just another retard in the retard race.
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how could japanese people make the absolutely best western medieval fantasy game ever?
>b-but muh skyrim/elder scrolls
absolute dogshit and vomitable games, if that shit is the epitome of western fantasy vidya made by western people then western people are devoid of talent and soul
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>indirect reply
Beta male.
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>Everyone from demigods-mortals instantly recognise you as Tarnished with a glance.

Is there a lore reason for this or is it just gameplay convenience?
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>>483859005
Impenetrable thorns, use it like a shotgun and watch every mob die in one hit
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Finally, a mount worthy to bear and elden lord. Torrent? I'm not using anything that used to belong to that evil shotagod rapist.
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>>483859081
yes and metyr's staff literally calls her 'broken and abandoned'. her tail microcosm is also implied to be the source of marika's erdtree seed, further connecting things.
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>>483859861
the irony
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>>483859861
Ironic
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>>483858946
spawn protection is THE best time to attack, actual brainrot
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>>483858869
You're blocking based on builds? Am I just getting all the 3rd worlders and sleep crossbow cheaters?
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Welp pvp is as shit as ever, and I cant be bothered replaying the DLC because of skibbidy fragments, guess im done already, that was short lived
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Genuinely regret spending 40 bucks on this.
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>>483854369
377
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>>483859892
Not having grace of gold in your eyes I think
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>>483859892
They can smell your huge unwashed tarnished wiener.
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>>483854369
460. It's a character in ng+14 or something that I've played on since launch. Just being able to swap to whatever the fuck I want without having to respec just feels nice.
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>>483859920
What the fuck is that?
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does this door go anywhere or is it decoration? it looks like it would
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>>483854980
Fallingstar Beasts.
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>>483860189
you can go around it but it cannot be opened
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fromsoft peaked with this dlc
I don't know how they can improve from here
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>>483860292
This but unironically
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>>483857164
RL93 +17, pure STR. Speedran to kill Mohg early so I could enter the DLC ASAP, got my ass kicked repeatedly because I was RL63 with a +14 uninfused Longsword and three talisman slots lol. Really enjoyed it once I got my Scadutree level up and upgraded my weapon more. Bosses have been a blast, (except Gaius, fuck that cripple fuck) struggling with Radahn phase 2 now.
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>>483859138
I have them +10 and like 9 skibidi ash levels. They do pretty good damage because they both proc bleed but they're made of fuckin paper, they get two shotted by most dlc bosses. Haven't tried them in the base game but for being super secret giga dlc ashes I figured they'd at least be mimic tier but they're just kind of decent. They need more hp
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>>483855195
i also like how "radahn wants an eternity of war" is based around the fuckin opinion of some random follower of his
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Anyone else just not like the Rellana character?

To me, her lore feels as though it was someone's edgy OC that you would find on DeviantArt or somethin.

"This is Rellana! She's the cool hidden twin sister of Rennala, and she dual weilds magic swords that are imbued with magic and fire. And, unlike her sister, she can cast TWO full moons, and instead of using forms of glinstone pebbles and comets, she only uses glintblade spells because she's SO COOL!"

Maybe I'm just being a hater, but like, I really do not like her from a lore perspective. She's definitely really cool, aesthetically. I dig the silver and blue armour.
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>>483860292
>Improve from here
Even more npc storylines like Igon.
Lena's ganksquad and all the npcs involved is a pretty good proof of concept, now they just need to refine the idea.
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>thought people were joking about the skibidi ash name
>the item description literally references skibidi toilet
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what's the difference between the 2 hand to hand weapons?
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>>483854821
yeah who would try to make their playthrough more interesting by applying roleplay logic to a game whose lore is dripfed and none of it is neither confirmed nor denied, so there's nothing to work with from an actual game standpoint.
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>>483860292
a coherent story and questlines that can be reliably completed without a guide would be an improvement
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>>483855195
saved. miyazaki is a hack.
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Former Miquellan Knight, now looking for a new oath while carrying on his vision of a gentler world
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>>483860479
I dont even know her lore at all, this dlc kinda sucks at giving out information, my knowledge of her until reading outside sources topped and started at "There's a knight that does stances, also now here you fight her. The end"
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anyone else having trouble finding random co-op around 150ish level that's not being summoned for bosses?
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>>483860479
The sword magic I'm ok with, there's a lot of glintstone sorcery that we only know from enemies/in the lore that we don't cast ourselves.
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>>483860529
>>the item description literally references skibidi toilet
Just...shut the fuck up retard my goodness
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>>483859242
They have no scadu frags
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>>483859061
I love both games
haven't played Witcher since I found Elden Ring though. B&W is still the superior DLC of course
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>>483849026
>It became overplayed in DS3
What, in cutscenes?
That doesn't seem right.
Let's see;
Abyss Watchers, Wolnir, Dancer, Princes, nameless king
5 out of 19 in the base game.

>>483849026
>more DS1 style
Again, in cutscenes?
Centipede Demon, Quelaag, Gwyndolin (even gets multiple monologues), Gaping Dragon, Sif, Seath, Nito O&S, and fucking Pinwheel
Being generous and including Taurus, Stray, and Asylum, that's 9 out of 22.

"DS1 style" would be cutscenes for every boss that's not a generic reskin.
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>>483857147
it is
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>>483860705
Blaidd,s armor references Disney's Frozen
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>>483860292
Even MORE delayed attacks and AoE attacks and an even smaller window to attack!!!! Bosses should just attack you until you’re out of stamina so you have to perfectly time you dodges or else you die!!!! FUCK YEAH I LOVE ELDEN RING BOSS DESIGN WOOOOOOOOOOO PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK
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>>483860607
i will tell you who - bicurious teens who lean on the creative side and adults who never got past that developmental stage
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>enter midras mansion
>...
>its over
this has been the case with every "significant" area in the dlc
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I finish the DLC on base cycle with a STR/FTH. I wanna try all the magic stuff and I have a save file at the start.
Should I reload and respec, or go NG+ and respec?
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>>483860628
I completed all quests without a guide
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>>483860986
is this loss
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>>483859482
If you don't think Elden Ring is fantastic visually you're literally just a salty biased hater. This game is objectively pretty cool looking. The environments are great
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This is new low even for me.
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>>483860479
She's the little sister, not the twin. And she's a knight so she likes swords.
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>>483860898
sucks to suck
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>>483857019
it's great against npcs
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>darklight catacomb
How did they did up a hole 3 km deep
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>>483860479
Only shameless coomers think she is a good character lmao
The same idiots will tell you that Carians won this expac
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>>483857164
keeping it old school, a little classy
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>>483861098
First time he landed a hit on me he did too much damage for me to be comfortable so every time after I just fired incantations at him
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>>483860915
having an active imagination is literally factually proven by science to be a sign of a more healthy mature mind
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>>483860292
Not sure if you meann the game as a whole, or combination of story/gameplay/etc. but I definitely think we're at the logical conclusion of how far From can take the combat system that's barely changed since Demon's Souls. I beat all the bosses solo without cheesing them, but there were definitely attacks/combos that a lot of the bosses had that just made me feel like the player couldn't mechanically keep up with the boss by just sprinting, jumping and rolling. Still want to play through a second/third time and on different builds, maybe that will change my mind. Also, maybe I just have Souls/BB nostalgia. I just hate Elden Ring's trend of when a combo is presented as a combo, but in reality it's an AOE because you can't be anywhere near the boss when they use that combo, and you just have to keep ypur distance while the boss becomes one big flailing hitbox for ten seconds. Seems like that is becoming the norm, and I feel like if the combat isn't changed up for the next game, it's going to feel like OoT Link fighting a Ninja Gaiden boss.
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>>483859713
Heavy weapons and jump attacks are pure cheese. Imagine not having to interact with 90 percent of the game because you just stunlock everything you come across. I think a big reason people are crying about Radahn is because they're all used to everything getting staggered over and over and Radahn has fuck you poise and forces you to play the game for once
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>>483861135
Yep. May as well assume that the nameless third sister has THREE fucking moons, wow.

Miyazaki only made this character so he could keep Carians supreme, but it truly backfired on him.

And I’m copypasting a Reddit thread btw

https://www.reddit.com/r/eldenringdiscussion/comments/1dpk8cp/am_i_crazy_to_think_that_rellana_is_a_dumb/?sort=top

Nobody likes Rellana. Nobody.
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>>483861067
We playin’ the same game, bud? Only Nokron and Caelid stand out. Rest is just generic fantasy slop.
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>>483859976
You keep frags on ng+
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>>483857860
anyone know why this happened?
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>>483859354
were you wearing cloth? is physical damage not fire despite the explosion
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>>483861325
Don't bother. He's never going to understand because he's barely conscious as a human being.
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>>483860479
same energy as reviving radahn
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>>483861395
i like her
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>>483858264
Based headcanon chads.
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>My loyal blade and champion of the festival, both your deeds will forever be praised in song.

Who is Miquella talking about? Malenia is his loyal blade, Radahn is the "champion of the festival"?
Does "Both your deeds" mean deeds done by both of them, or two deeds done by one of them? Did someone figure it out?
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>>483861896
nigga
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>>483860479
People play video games about burning magical god trees from outer space and complain that it isn't serious enough for them. Brah the lore in fromsoft games is an afterthought, go read a book if you want high literature you midwit lmao
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>>483857814
Please post sliders.
Or tell me if that's a type A twink.
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>>483854821
>Getting immersed in the media you consume is weird
Nah you're just an autistic retard who mindlessly consooms
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>>483854821
>>483862139
Immersing yourself in stories and characters is actually really helpful. It not only helps you develop yourself, but also makes it much easier (long term) to empathise with people and understand them. It allows you to think of yourself in different situations, or on different paths.
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>>483861980
You seem to know what you're talking about. Suggest me some books with what you deem to be high literature.
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>>483862805
My favorite poet is Hart Crane
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Is it just Messmer specifically who skips parts of Leda's quest? Can I do other Shadow Keep bosses like the sunflower thing?
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>>483862805
Not him, but Samuel Beckett, William Faulkner, James Joyce, Herman Melville, Jorge Luis Borges, and any of the Russian greats like Dostoeyvsky, Tolstoy, and Nabakov would be starter examples of high literature.
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>>483854141
You never even landed a single attack I think you’re just shit at pvp. Maybe you’d do better as a host. Scrub. Pft.
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What boss do I need to kill for a cool dex/arc somber weapon?
It took me so long to kill Rellana and Mesmer and I can't use either of these badass weapons.
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>>483854214
You play like a lil queer nice run attack spam so cool the host was retarded too tho
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>>483861673
Nah, I'm wearing a mushroom crown and 3/4 green plate set (verdigris?), while also wearing greatshield talisman
10 skibidis btw
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Sorry Igon....I AM BAYLE NOW
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>>483864491
Next main boss after Messmer will give you dex/arc halberd. Dunno how useful it is since I'm not on arc build myself, but looks pretty cool.
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>>483856013
Whoa run attack spam with a spell follow up into a roll into another spam. Holy shit it’s Jason borne. Fucking idiot.
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Fuck I feel like I'm missing out by being Dex instead of Arcane. Like Arcane gives me access to so much shit, and most of the same weapons that dex and strength get, but they now bleed for fuckloads of damage..
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>>483854124
>>483855287
Embarrassing to look at, it's like I'm at the front page of plebbit and some drone posts these clips while complaining about his ass being kicked
Just so bad lol
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Does Roar Medalion works on Bayle Tyranny?
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>>483857860
the mob that drops these spawned or patrolled weird and died from fall damage
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>>483852891
it also stopped Miquella's Eclipse ritual to ressurect Godwyn
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>>483858681
empyrean are selected by the two fingers controlled by metyr
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>>483850372
>>483851706
I bet you're posting this to Discord right now.
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>>483879060
Hehe
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>>483879192
I'll take that as a yes.



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