>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passworderg>Previous>>483847982
miyazaki is a hack
they will never top gael
https://x.com/ELDENRING/status/1806689176449855497
what's the difference between sleep and eternal sleep in pvp?
mai waifu
So this is the "strength" of your average hostcel these days...Embarrassing. Can even one of them still put up a fight?
Everyone thinks Rellana is some edgy self insert character lmfaohttps://www.reddit.com/r/eldenringdiscussion/comments/1dpk8cp/am_i_crazy_to_think_that_rellana_is_a_dumb/?sort=top
>>483861419Messmer was good, but could have been better
Who the heck is St. Trina!
RanniGODS won
Tier list of builds from worst to best:>QUALITY>INT/ARC>P(ure)ARC>P DEX>FTH/INT>ARC/STR>P STR>INT/STR>FTH/STR>P INT>P FTH>DEX/FTH>DEX/ARC>INT/DEX>FTH/ARCDoes it line up with your experience?
>>483861443after killing gayle she was just gone for me. dropped the item that turns me into a femdragon but thats it. shouldve read the wiki ig
>>483861546just stay there bro
>>483861443Why can Rennala summon full blown dragon ashes in her fight, but the player needs to have them shrunk?I am starting to hate lore to mechanic discrepancies
>>483861656But I'm a quality build and it's fun
zoomers have ruined our meme already
Should Hand-to-Hand arts have S scaling to compensate for their absolute dogshit base damage?
Next sekiro like game fucking when? Next bloodborne like game fucking when?
>>483861656Reasoning for fth arc? What build did you have? Curious cuz Im playing it currently with dragon communion
>>483861706She has/had pacts with everything she summons.Come, oathsworn <thingy>.
>>483861742Shame
>>483861656>quality>when it has dragon halberd for pvp and dragon hunter gk for pve>fth/arcare you on first month of release patch notes or something?
I was thinking that Melina would push our Frenzied Flame Tarnished's shit in since Midra was weak as hell, but I realized that we would still have all of our abilities since they're stored/memorized by our body (Radahn could use Mohg's bloodflame)
>>483861546Carians really lost a fuck ton of their charm and integrity this expansion I hate it
>>483861656Arc/Str is the best because of Ancient Meteoric Greatsword
>>483861432nothing
>My loyal blade and champion of the festival, both your deeds will forever be praised in song.Who is Miquella talking about? Malenia is his loyal blade, Radahn is the "champion of the festival"?Does "Both your deeds" mean deeds done by both of them, or two deeds done by one of them? Did someone figure it out?
>>483861876Are you assuming our ashes didn’t make a pact with us? Ashes aren’t slaves if one does not fucking drug then first.She also summons an ash of Blaidd in an early version of her fight. It might just be a sort of ash copy.
>>483861546Since learning that Reddit thinks she's a joke, I've come to appreciate Rellana as one of the best characters in the DLC.
>>483861817Bloodborne is overrated. Aesthetics are great but thats about it.
>>483862053Loyal blade = RadahnChampion of the festival = Us
>>483862003but that's str/arc
>>483861546>DLC is an expansion>Introduces new characters>Some of these new characters belong to existing factions>This shocks people who suddenly don't like the idea of new charactersRetards
>>483862053What are the deeds he's talking about?
what if invasions worked like this>anyone can be invaded at any time if they have a rune arc active, no phantoms required>any time an invader spawns in, the game also spawns in a hunter at the same time at a similar distance or slightly closer to the host>invader thus has to fight a 1v1 with an actual pvper before he can go put the host out of his misery, and the host can try to use the hunter as support for a 2v1>groups of 2 (host and furled finger) don't get hunter support>groups of 3 phantoms will always be invaded in pairs, 2 invaders spawn in at the same timebenefits:>more "real" invasions with hosts actually playing the game>hosts are always at an advantage because of guaranteed +1 player on their side>blue hunters get something to do>invaders don't just get ganked and thus have less reason to sweat outimo there should also be some kind of honor system to help weed out sweaty invaders, maybe some semblance of matchmaking that shadowpools them with other sweats
>>483862221cool fanfic I guess
>>483862184That’s not why they are mad you fucking dumbass She’s an actual shit character lore wise
>>483862053he means us, we carved the path for him with our blade and we killed radahn, making us both his loyal blade and champion of the festival. doesnt he also say "get out of the way lol" right after this, implying he's speaking to us anyway?
>>483861817Miyazaki is already working on his dream fantasy game. The next game will probably be from the B team.
>>483861896Yeah it's strange>Loyal BladeMalenia, as she so often reminds us.>Champion of the FestivalThat would be the Tarnished, there was no festival before The Shattering or did Radahn host a festival where he beat up his soldiers who are all 20ft shorter than him?If he means the strongest during The Shattering that would be Morgott who destroyed Radahn so one sided that Morgott did it with his cane and not his sword.
Are mst people doing the DLC not leveling vigor at all or using any form of damage mitigation??Almost everyone who summons me dies in 2 hits.
For the longest time, I thought that the Tarnished was Miquella's chosen considering how much he helps us. Also thought Ranni and Melina were in cahoots with him considering he gave them items to give to us, and then there's his and Malenia's cut ending.
>scadu 12Maybe now Messmer will rape my ass in 30 seconds instead of 25
>>483862285thanksi guarantee if B-team was calling the shots, they'd be taking notes. they actually understood what drives sweat and badfeels
>>483861570messmer should have been oiled up and naked
Twink bros, you can farm the fire knight set in the backsection of the shadow keep by backstabbing a knight at the end of a long ladder over and over again, he falls down and you can retrieve anything he drops
>>483862221you don't understand anon this multibillionaire company will die on the spot if you increase their server costs for 2 extra people! Please think of the board!
>>483862367Expectations subverted. You rike? *raughs*
>>483862367that's almost coherent and we cant have that now can we
>>483862350Bosses hit super hard and maybe people are not looking for scooby doos
>>483862332>The next game will probably be from the B team.Good.
>>483861896The champion of the festival is you, bro.
>>483862350vigor is a boring stat and people have a hard time believing it's actually what you need to prioritize over everything else until you hit at least 50 with itback in release times i think i beat radahn on like my 6th or 7th time when everyone else was getting their asses handed to him, and i think it was solely because i just had enough vigor to chug through his shit and mash dual katana l1 on him
>>483862221Miyazaki said they're were interested in implementing seemless co-op for future games. I wonder how invasions will work there. Since I KNOW invasions aren't going anywhere.
>>483862292The reason they are mad is dumber. I'm tired of hearing "[New character] just sounds like an OC!" because they're all OCs. Describing something as dumb as possible and then mocking how dumb it sounds is not a critique.
>>483862497this is what happens when your fanbase is rabid and full of social parasites and try to extract shit from "the lore" that doesn't existdevs get fed up and throw out a fuck you to the community
I need 4 fragments more to upgrade my blessing to +20Is there any place that I might have not explored at all?
>>483862557Get ready for another DS2 basegame
I'll be honest, after finishing the DLC I've realized that I really don't like the direction Souls combat has taken.You shouldn't roll to make attacks magically phase through you, you should roll to phisically get out of the way of attacks, and bosses shouldn't have movesets that require you to abuse iframes.Rolling INTO some guy who is doing his giant AOE attack because you're immune to damage shoudln't be a viable strategy.
>>483862705just look up a video bro
>>483861817Sekiro 2 after this would be nice
>>483862676Anon, just say you’re a biased Ranni fag coomer who doesn’t actually care about lore integrity. You just want to jerk off to boobs.
What are these called again?
>>483862367>NOOO I CAN'T LIVE OUT MY GAY HOMOSEXUAL PEDERAST FANTASIES NOOOshut up and die
>>483862497>post the same shit for daysShut up.
>>483862719if it means they will add in enemies like the desert sorceress along with their armor sets then I'm ineverything is so fucking ugly in elden ring
>>483862570Im decent at dodging stuff but I still leveled vig because I got tired of the few attacks that I couldn't dodge taking 80% of my hp
Killed one of the rot cockroaches and pissed off Moore. I haven't killed his yet, I ran and he returned to his worldWhat items did I lose on by failing his quest? I don't care for lore, I just want items
>>483862312
>finger ruins were fucking nothing>jagged peak was fucking nothingdid they spend their entire budget making the bosses as miserable as possible and nothing on the world?
>>483862719good
was there another armour piece in the dlc that granted damage boost when madness happens?
Stop posting your stupid fucking invasion webmsjust stop, it is NOT discussion, it is NOT entertaining, of course you post the ones when you come out on top, what about when you ass raped 3v1? nobody fucking cares, nobody will remember you, fuck off
Is there actually anything in the abyssal woods other than yellow eye animals and one madness dude
>>483862184>hey this is the sister of the best mage of the academy, she's ranni's aunt>no cutscene, no build up, zero dialogue>only thing you have about her is item descriptions>she also loves messmer 18 inches btw:)don't forget that if you said rennala had sisters going by the 3 sister tower + carian filigreed crest people would tell you to kill yourself, if you said she was called fucking rellana you would explode on the spot
>>483862332My dad works for FROM and Miyazaki's "top secret" JRPG is actually his version of Super Robot Wars
>>483862486there are actually no "session" servers at all aside, only servers for handling logins, matchmaking, soapstone messages, etc.the reason multiplayer is laggy and shitty is because it relies on ancient p2p technology with a huge open world map and 12 years of technological bloat with AI, physics, and so on. timmy's wifi just isn't strong enough to handle it. they'd have to rewrite the netcode (more culling mostly) to actually make it less laggy and able to handle more players like it used to
>>483862813https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8
>>483862813skibidis
>>483862857
>>483862878The grape man talisman. You can stack it with the old black dumpling.
>>483862867>28 new incantations>only 14 new sorceries >sorcery variety sucks>biggest sorcery sucks Whoever was involved had a massive as fuck hate goner for pure magic users lol
>>483861656 From best - worst>Quality>Int/Arc>Pure Arc>Dex/Arc>Pure Dex>Pure Faith>Pure Str>Str/Faith>Str/Int>Faith/Arc>Fath/Int>Str/Arc>Pure Int>Dex/Faith>Int/Dex
>>483862843consumables which buff torrent, let him charge into enemies, stuff like that
>>483863024>see thumbnail>thought they kissedThis outcome is great too
>>483862775It's a very flawed system. A bunch of unnecessary movement, just so you can get iframes
>>483862661Duels. You will fight in the arena. Come on. It's obvious.>>483862857I thought they were kissing here...
so are you supposed to consume the scudtree item
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apeNCJka9-sthe most fun ash is going to be nerfed because of pvp nerds.fucking hell
>>483863101Hehe
>>483862889fragments
If Miquella had indeed ascended to Godhood, would his vision of a "kindler, gentler" world actually start to manifest? Or was that all smoke and mirrors too?Seems hard to have a kind and gentle reign of compassion when there are literal outer space cosmic horrors crashing on your planet constantly and trying to gain power.
>>483863110So did I when I glanced by it
>>483861656>FTH/DEX I'm thinking of doing a Marikasimp character with this in mind. Is Milady any good for this? I don't want to be arsed with Leda's shitty AoW.
>>483863121blind?
>>483862486>>483862982ftr the pvp arena gives a good idea of what the netcode would be if it didn't have to stream all the shit going on in the zone to other players. that is to say, the pvp in the arena feels mostly playable and you can actually do mechanics in them instead of "he's 10 feet away from me but i better roll anyway because this shit is laggy af"
>>483863125I'm guessing most of the fun, actually useful stuff in the DLC is getting nerfed
>>483863235what
This last boss is so badly designed that I genuinely just don't wanna finish the DLC anymore.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198152155097/recommended/2778580/He’s right, you know.
>>483862915>3 sister towerFunny how Seluvus is just occupying one of those towers and even renamed it after himself huh. Seems kind of out of place doesn't he.
holy hell im high as shit. anyone got webms i can watch
>>483862367The DLC rationalizes it by saying that he was just helping us as part of a convoluted plan to send Mohg and Radahn to the Shadowlands. Where this breaks down is that he fucking has Malenia. Why doesn't he just use her? He can give her all the items that he passed on to the Tarnished. She's already one of the strongest beings in the setting. Like set her up in a 1v1 against any of the bosses and she annihilates them, even DLC bosses. The only boss who beats her is Malekith. And this is totally valid as well since Miyazaki stated that their overall difficulty/battle strength lines up with their strength in lore.
>>483863291sirs, your bloodhound step?
>>483863125I'm a pirate, so I'm not moving from 1.12.1 unless there's some really good QoL changes or new content in the future.
>>483861742it was always a shit meme, if it was a good meme it would have taken longer than a week to end up on twitter/reddit.
>>483862221Some good ideas here. I would also like to see some sort of mechanic to put pressure on either the invader or the host like a stacking DOT in order to prevent stalemates where the invader waits at the mobs while the host and phantoms wait at the grace.
>>483863275did you miss the help popup when you got your first one
>>483863293>445 clown emojisfrombabies are braindead
>fire knight short sword>fire knight greatsword>queelign's greastword>lightning perfumer bottle>blackknight's twinblade>blacksteel hammerJESUS FUCKING CHRIST. what's with all the weapons scaling with FTH but still being infusable? Did they look at the erdsteel dagger and say "we need so many fucking more of that!"? because it's AWESOME!
>>483863215Messmer's spear is an amazing faith/dexterity weapon
>>483863203Marika also had a kind and gentle world at one point she just had to genocide the niggers.Miquella instead of genociding everyone for their differences he will just mindrape everyone so they have no will of their own and thus no violence.Miquella has abandoned fear, love, and most his emotions. He would be a shell of a god and mankind would be left to ruin very quickly.
>>483863387no i thought it would make the game too easy but it's getting tedious
the comic sucks ass when you realize centuri said that the game is only good with seamless and sekiro parry mods
Can you get the florissax summon and her mace or is it one or the other?
>>483861546Nu Radahn is the actual edgy self insert>HMMM AND MY RADAHN CAN USE BLOODFLAME MAGIC AND ALSO HAS HORNS FROMT HE CRUCIBLE AND ALSO GRAVITY MAGIC AND ALSO HIS BOYFRIEND GIVE SHIM HOLY POWERS AND HE ALSO ATTACKS 10 TIMES IN A ROW AND HAS INFINITE STAMINA AND NO DOWNTIME
>>483862367>Tarnished...whatever you do. DON'T help Miquella become a God. It's not good. Don't do it.>Kill Mohg, Kill Radahn, Kill Messmer, burn the thorns>Kill Miquella too, just for good measure. Steal his crown, spit on his corpse. Fuck him. Bitch ass twink. Faggot.We probably removed Trina from the plant, just for good measure.
>>483862823>gay, homosexualOkay, yes. But also irrelevant. See Marika. >pederastWrong. We love him even in his divine adult form.
>>483862823No, I want Millcent/Malenia, and that means aligning with Milk.
since we are definitely getting elden ring 2 where do you think it will take place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeBOIYnVq54is this nigga doing AI manip, cheating or just fucking lucky? a SEVEN minute radahn fight and the gravity pull doesn't get used a single time.
>>483863468why are you asking the internet how high you should set your difficulty, just fucking pick something you degenerate
>>483863334She also has an entire army including several other boss-level characters that the DLC just totally ignores. I think Malenia, Loretta, and Niall would have a much better shot than Leda, Dane, and Hornsent... assuming again she didn't just bring that fucking army she still has but which is currently doing absolutely nothing.
>>483862367I genuinely don't understand why the DLC didn't have an option to side with miquella. I'm playing a paladin type character and it would fit perfectly. Why the fuck am I on the omen side? I don't get the motivation at all. >inb4 thats just souls games bro! in ER base game, DS1, DS2, DS3 it was always clear to me why I was fighting the final boss
>>483863307try this>>483863386i figured it should just keep spawning in hunters whenever there's a stalemate, but ive seen groups of 3 still unwilling to progress into mobs in order to engage a singular invader (me)
Great curse upon ye; I hope your favourite weapon becomes meta (you will be shamed for using it) (it will be excessively nerfed and become worse than 90% of weapons)t. Messmerfag dreading the balance patch
>>483863570>1.71What? Is this really the height of our character?
>>483863534true
>>483863609wow calm down youre very mad
Jerma985 while doing the Putrescent Knight fight:>"How I like to do things is, I'll do 10-20ish attempts. And then after I'm satisfied with the challenge, if I beat it then hurray, if not then we start calling in friends. I'd say somewhere around the 40-50 mark is where it's like, alright mambo come on in and give me a hand."Is he right?
>>483863293He is and I'm tired of pretending that Elden Ring's boss combat is fun. It's consistently been the low point in a series where the bosses are normally the high point.
>>483863086What about armor, spell, weapon, talisman, etc? Does he drop anything like that at the end of his quest or during?
>>483862719 >New dickstab bell towers>shit tons of features both multiplayer and otherwise integrated into the game>NG+ incentives>more maps where the PvE isn't musou tier fodder>killing hosts for trying to cowardly escape past the fog wallI look forward to it.
I have yet to see a single piece of valid criticism for the dlc
I like the Radahn fight
>>483862367so why did he leave us Torrent? The steed that picks Lords?
>>483863662fuckin yellow clipped your fuckin health that's crazy man
>>483863797too empty
>>483863649There wasn't a lot of rationality for why your were doing what you were doing in DaS3's DLC.
>>483862367>Considering how much he helps usHe helps us?
>>483863714Nobody is right or wrong except for the kids who turn on godmode.
>>483862367Considering the cut content this was 100% the case until they decided to pivot into the Retardahn shit.
>>483863662Could possibly be different invader types, a weaker invader that either turtles in a position or tries to hide, and a stronger invader that has to rush the host.
>>483863797It hasn't made pure faith builds any less of a ball ache or remotely comparable to pure int.
>>483861664Same. Never even met her in my playthrough lol just picked up her mace and heart and was like "fuck was there an NPC here?"
>>483863386> I would also like to see some sort of mechanic to put pressure on either the invader or the host like a stacking DOT in order to prevent stalemates where the invader waits at the mobs while the host and phantoms wait at the grace.I think fi they ever do something like that it has to be to the benefit of the invader. The point of invasions inherently is to provide an extra obstacle when you're summoning help. IF you made it so you can just wait them out at the bonfire it would be senselessly biased (ontop of just being plain lame, invasions are fun specifically because of the shenanigans)
>>483863575wouldnt surprise me if he does some subtle cheating behind the scenes so he can get his vids out when needed.
can we have a fc today
>>483861656What qualifies as pure arc?If it's minimum reqs on STR/DEX + ARC then it's at least a top 3 strongest build, specially after the DLC.
>>483863534The Rellana and Radahn+Miquella fights are the most disappointing parts of these games desu, and they’re only in the dlc.Sad! A disgrace! They can’t go back!
>>483863918You needed to get the pigment for the painter, who would paint a new world for humanity.
>>483863797mostly nitpicking. i'm just here for the views and the mob/boss fights, which were all better than the base game, so 10/10 for me.
What's the blessing level for Gaius?
>>483863714He's right because everyone is allowed to play the game in the way that suits them best and while using the mechanics that are within the game. My real problem with Jerma is sometimes I wanted to reach through my monitor and scream at him because his build was so terrible.
>>483863737you can always get armor and weapon, you need to get one of the rewards before he asks you what to do, just look up the quest
>>483863575Isn't the gravity pull only when you heal?
>people keep saying Miquella was Torrent's master>check evidence>a single piece of concept art that doesn't appear in game
>>483861817There'll never be another game like Sekiro, at least not from Fromsoft. There's not really much to expand on in terms of gameplay. They did all you can do with that gameplay, a sequel would be a glorified expansion pack
>>483862221>there should also be some kind of honor system to help weed out sweaty invadersSweaty invaders are the natural result of making invading harder. The more disadvantaged invaders are the worse ibeing invaded actually becomes for hosts because "normal" invaders stop playing the game and only the most psychotic tryhards keep invading.When you could invade solo players I used to invade people with meme weapons or cosplaying as an npc, wait when the host wasn't fighting against mobs and fool around with obviously new players without killing them. Now I've stopped invading and instead of me you get dual spear billy who is frustrated with the game, has a grudge against blues, hosts and co-opers and will do his best to ruin your fun. Being massive tryhards used to be mostly a thing for duelists.
>>483863687dumb question deserve dumb answer
>>483864050has fight club culture moved over to the arena? i miss doing it in the world in ds3
>>483862775Said it before but it bears repeating: Lies of P's combat is the future of Souls games.
>>483862221>>anyone can be invaded at any time if they have a rune arc active, no phantoms requiredGood change and required to add the tense feeling of being invadable back to the game. I miss this from DS1 and DS2. >>any time an invader spawns in, the game also spawns in a hunter at the same time at a similar distance or slightly closer to the hostI think if you make hunters a guarantee like this then there needs to be opportunity cost and players need to give something up for the protection, like a tlaisman slot or maybe they have to pay the hunter with their own souls. That way you encourage an avenue for 1v1 invasions to still exist. I get the point of your suggestion though and it's good. It would alos make blue more active
good morning erg!!
>>483863649The entirety of the 2nd DS3 DLC had 0 explanation for why you were there, though.
>>483863293>445 le funny jester stickers for an extremely objective review that showcases the guy actually plays the game and isn't being inflammatory but has legitimate concerns about the direction the game seems to be taking
>>483863893nah it's perfect>>483863984pure faith still has access to more cheese than any other build
>>483864127i think i was at 10 or so at the time
>>483864193the lore on the torrent buffing items confirms it. literally nobody has those so i dont blame u for not knowing
>>483864252 im asking you people if you use the scudactree fragments thats it
>>483863404What’s crazy is that guy posted videos of him no hitting several bosses and Fromtrannies still told him to git gud lmao. From Soft fanatics can give the Ultrakill fandom a run for their money.
>>483864193who's torrent master tranime poster?if you kindly can explain of course
>>483863714You know, I fight bosses solo, but in general I really have a lot of respect for people who pick some random shitty summon and stick with it. They're neither a tryhard nor some desperate Mimic Tear pussy craving validation, crying "I BEAT IT I BEAT IT I BEAT THE HARD GAME I'M A REAL GAMER"No, they're genuinely just having fun with the game.
>>483863945From what I've heard (chink datamining) the only thing that might have been cut, was an unfinished Miquella ending cutscene that would play if you died to Radahn. That's it.
>>483863943is there an actual godmode in the game or do you just mean some CE shit? i know how hard miyazaki caters to the casuls now so i wouldn't even put it past him at this point.
>>483864354please refer to my previous replies
>>483863121You use them while sitting at Graces.
>>48386412714
>>483864350The revered spirit ashes?
Intdex is only bad if you purposely gimp yourself and refuse to use Moonveil. That sword is still one of the best weapons in the game t. godveil abuser
>>483864230>When you could invade solo players I used to invade people with meme weapons or cosplaying as an npc, wait when the host wasn't fighting against mobs and fool around with obviously new players without killing them.100%my favorite thing to do in DS1 and DS2 was themed invasions acting like an NPC and having funny "scripted" behaviors. I'm describing it like a sperg but I'm just talking about things like trying to kick people off a ledge as patches then running off and trying to kill them with bridges when it doesn't work. If I tried this in Elden Ring I would just get 3v1 gangbanged by 3 people spamming projectiles so thats an entire avenue of invasion fun that doesn't exist anymore.
Added that new Thorns sorcery and blind spot to my BlocklistWhy is spammable shit able to stagger? Pretty dumb
>>483863334>And this is totally valid as well since Miyazaki stated that their overall difficulty/battle strength lines up with their strength in loreI can't believe Godefroy is stronger than Rennala.
>>483863863>>483862367It'd be hilarious if Torrent were Miquella's Shadow.
>>483864371to be fair: he also summons yoda.
>>483864050yes, please.
trigger warning: INSANE L2 gameplay and total hostcel r@pe!!!
>>483862367>I thought that the Tarnished was Miquella's chosen considering how much he helps ushow many FUCKING times does this have to be fucking said. miquella did NOT help the player with ANYTHING. the one helping the player was ST. TRINA.
>>483864292It still kinda sounds like bullshit to me. This is going to be Malenia all over again, where people complain about difficulty and a few months later everyone got over it.
Where the FUCK is that retard Thiollier after he says he's going south to the shore? I'm not going to comb the entire fucking Cerulean Coast for this fucker.
>>483863943the game already gives you godmode in greatshield and the new lightning perfume bullshit.
>>483864406CE
>>483864291>>483863918you caught me I didn't play that one yet. Forgot about it even. Only one I skipped because I was deployed at the time and when I came back the fucking servers got taken down so I forgot about it until just now
>>483864367It’s left unexplained, but possibly Ranni.
>>483864371I like to dress as a Cuckoo Knight and summon the Raya Lucaria soldier team. I'm also a fan of the ones that react to warcry.
How many Scibdi dobodibadibodododabdabdibdabidododiscabdabdoo scibididabididibidiedoooodooo fragments for Miquella's secret ending?
>>483864480no the items you make with the cookbooks you get for rescuing friendly pests
>>483864527Considering that Rennala was severely handicapped by her depression/insanity, yeah, I can see that.
i got a backhand bladeis there a way to get bleed on it without losing that cool dashing ash of war? am i doomed and i have to use bloodflame blade?
>>483864050>>483864591this is honestly the gayest shit. you should all feel ashamed. if you're gonna suck each other off anonymously then just do it the old fashioned way at a furry convention like the rest of the degenerates.
>>483863334miquella didn't guide the player, leda literally says this outright near the end of the DLC. the guidance of the erdtree took us there, to kill him.
>>483864687scubatree fragmentsscoobitroon fragmentsscabadibidi fragmentsscudibidi fragments
>>48386468751
If you complain about Rellana's infinite combos then learn to parry
>>483864646Nvm found him. Fromsoft, if I already have the St. Trina grace and the little fucker teleports there, then just fucking mark him on the map. Cunts.
>Miquella the kind is a monster, pure and radiant.>He wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men, there is nothing more terrifyingDid anyone else want to kill Ansbach after this? It made me so mad, what gives him the right?
>>483864561Speaking of I was unironically hoping for horse armors in this DLC. Disappointed it didn't happen. I like torrent being a weird goat horse but I wanted to put something more on him than just a scuffed saddle
>>483864527I can believe it. Consider how strong all the grafted scions are. Godrick aint shit compared to the other demigods but he easily would have the strongest army if he kept making those monsters.
>>483863931>>483863863>Torrent chooses us (supposed to be a big deal)>This makes both Ranni (who gives us the Spirit Calling Bell) and Melina trust us>Melina and Torrent are related, since both are burned>Has a bunch of spirit candles to guide us either to Blaidd (Ranni's ally) or the Wondrous Physick (used by his knights)>We help Latenna (his ally) to reach the mega objective of saving the Albinaurics (important plot point, since even Loretta, one of his knights is on the Haligtree for this purpose) and is also the reason why the Haligtree and Miquella are considered sacred to them>We help Millicent in her quest to "save" Malenia (his fucking sister) by bringing the needle to her>Radahn is chosen by Miquella because he's "kind" and "strong" - both qualities our Tarnished have and is mentioned in the base game without any fucking ass pulls. Just look how many people want our cock or wants to be allied with us.The story is very clear here. Miquella wants our help and guide us the whole game. Miyazaki just pussied out in the ending.
>>483864662It's a fun DLC, definitely worth going back for. But there's not even really an entrance point to it. It's just a teleports you there just before the Lord of Cinder or after the Friede bossfight. Then you're just kinda sent on your merry way to go through 1 medium area and 1 very large area.
>>483864739bro...your whetblades? is this your first time playing ER?
>>483864830scat fragments is best.
>>483864527Rennala was also never the strongest mage in the lore, she just had a special ability with the moon and brought people together under a banner. There are several stronger mages in the story like Lusat
>>483864621Personally I saw myself beating Malenia fairly after a while since she actually had downtimes, you could be aggressive since she had low poise like Gael and it was easy to stun lock her, i can't see myself doing this with Radahn, the only time I actually broke his poise was when I was aggressively trading (And almost chugged my entire estus stash), otherwise the poise bar resets because his combos last too fucking long by the time I get one hit in (A r1/l1 because God forbid I'm actually allowed to do a charge attack without getting chip damage)
>>483864602Please stop posting my favourite weapon I don't want to risk Fromsoftware(tm) nerf bats making it worse than a treespear.
>>483864602This is why I block people.
Haven't played since D2 and now jumping in blindAm i gaslighting myself, or is there actually like a 0.5s delay between pressing roll and actually rolling?I'm just below threshold for fatrollsIs it a mechanic or do I just suck and I am coping right now?Also I swear sometimes my input for dodging does not register at all, but i'm pretty sure that's just because i'm pressing my joysticks really hard for some reason and sometimes I just trigger the crouching animation, cancelling the roll.
>>483864974because someone is using... a weapon??? that's in the game???
>>483864872I mean if you tell a bunch of people that their sins will be absolved and they be redeemed and all they have to do is genocide a small village, that's pretty evil.
>>483864983stored rolls is just a thing in from games
>>483864621>everyone got over it.They moved on. I mean in regards to letting that shit go. People don't hold onto their grievances for more than a few weeks if they're regular
>>483861206>Check YouTube >Garden of Eyes gives Malenia a 300% damage buff and showcase her Vs Promised Consort Radahn to prove Malenia would btfo Radahn and her brother What drive a man to this?
>>483862813Shadow fragments, Translating shit to old english only works if it sounds cool, scadu sounds like some catch phrase a character in scooby doo says.
>raise weapon>it stays there for x seconds>instant swing downWhy do most bosses in the DLC do this?
>>483864927what the fuck I didn't know about various whetblades lolthanks anons yeah it's my first time
>>483864406It's called "using a greatshield"
>>483864897All St. Trina.
>>483864292I agree with him but also don't. It's proof that FromSoft are approaching a real breaking point in the progression of their game design. They can't make it harder at the risk of making something too frustrating and alienating to casual gamers, and can't make it easier because it will just be boring and a betrayal of their core playerbase. Literally only Radahn in the DLC made me put my controller down and think "This is definitely pushing beyond some limit", because every other boss I could see a path to beating them and could do so, but Radahn was just overwhelming. In the end he was beatable, but it was also in the end sort of anti climatic, something that Malenia never was. Fromsoft do need to listen to this criticism though because they'll have to carefully think of what direction the next game will need to go in.
>>483864983If you want to roll you should just be light load. Medium load rolls suck and you are better off going shield and blocking at that point.
>>483864258yeah it's more convenient>>483864591i'll ask and start one in a few hours if i remember
>>483865047No one is complaining about Malenia anymore. My second playthrough I beat her in under 2 hours. Hard boss, but fun fight. So far all the DLC bosses are the same (haven't tried Radahn yet).
>>483865092we already proved that's not the case though.
>>483864936I cannot imagine fighting Radahn without a greatshield and I fought every other boss in the game just rolling and bonking with a greathammer
>>483865063every boss does that. it's the main thing fucking despise in elden ring it's not funonly in ds1 the bosses were ok
>>483865151the visual noise for malenia in phase 2 was already pushing it, but radahn is fucking ridiculous
>>483864371I like the rats.
>>483863680Remember the Japanese made this game. The Tarnished is practically a giant in their eyes. I'm not being a heckin /pol/ anon, that's just how the japanese are, reminder that Vegeta and Astolfo are the same height and weight.
>>483864897That sounds like a lot of reaching to me
I really hope the next Soulsborne game does away with ashes and doesnt design bosses around having to fight multiple people. This has been a good departure but its not a design I want to see continuing forward.
>>483864371i summoned tons of different dues on my first dlc run. yoda kinda slaps fr
>If you die in The Lands Between you don't actually die you get banished to the Shadow Realm.Why did they steal the lore from the Yu-Gi-Oh dub? It's literally called the exact same thing and does the same thing.
>>483864897all the shit with spirits and sleep is trina, retard, the literal demigod of sleep and peaceful death. it makes perfect sense for an empyrean who doesn't want to be a god to empower the competition.
>>483862880t. got cooked by an invader
Why is Marika so sticky? Wtf is the deal with the shamans?If marika were put into a jar how powerful would it be?
>>483864983If you’re on PC download EMU Light and use it. Removes the retarded roll delay and you can bind other actions to different keybindings, like run to shift instead of space.
>>483865063It's so you can't intuitively dodge attacks when you see them attack. It's a mechanic to force you to memorize the movesets. They want you to actually learn bosses attack timings and which way you must roll to dodge the followups etc.
How do I go north of shadow keepThere's a big door somewhere in the library but I can't open it
>>483865231Bayle is one of the more fun and super fair fights though. Everything he does has HUGE wind up on it. If you can't dodge you might actually be disabled
It's utterly absurd how easy it is to get most of the stuff once you're inside the DLC alreadyGonna attempt to kill the divine beast on base level so i can wear his mask for the ridiculous stat boost.Then the fucking inquisitor.Do scat fragments impact matchmaking?
>>483864295the starting zone is actually barren. frenzy woods have nothing in them. the finger zones are lol tier
>>483863575>>483864189It's rng, on one of my attempts after 4:50 Radahn did not use the gravity pull once.
>>483865231>Did you try twisting his dick?kek, the ole dick twist.
>>483864230>Sweaty invaders are the natural result of making invading harder. you are correct. sweaty behavior is usually created by people encountering sweaty behavior and answering it with their own. but it is also a result of contextualizing invasions as a high stakes environment in general. being invaded is a tough situation because you are now essentially in a boss battle you didn't sign up for and you are probably going to lose a bunch of progress and a rune arc. and you'll probably get teabagged when the dude using broken shit is done whomping you. not only that, but normies view 1v1 invasions as immensely stressful because, to be fair, they are stressful because pvp is its own cosmos and anyone you get invaded by has pvp-optimized gear. that's why i think invasions should always consider an unwilling host as a non-factor when it comes to balancing the scales, and preferably keep them from ever engaging an invader on their own, because by and large, they will undoubtedly suck at pvp.anyway aside from that, there ARE players who will sweat out, teabag and do all sorts of tryhard inferiority complex shit even if everyone else is playing funny meme builds, and they WILL think there is nothing wrong with any of it. it's like a weird category of subhumans who seek out dumb beer and pretzels party games and try to turn them into something competitive. these people are a massive catalyst in making pvp unfun for everyone and i don't know what you could really do about them, aside from the aforementioned honor system (like indicting in dark souls 1 but actually somehow useful)
>>483865468insane wdc post
When is Alexander's quest bricked? I can't remember where I left off since I dropped the game two years ago. I think I saw him at Redmane back then. But now I'm in Farum Azula and haven't seen him. I want that shard.
>>483865429that door is unopenable, you need to go around. enter the castle from the east gate. and drain the water when you get to the flooded section. and collect the emote from bonny village.
>>483865063no boss does that
Marika...... Has been vindicated
>>483865151>and can't make it easier because it will just be boring and a betrayal of their core playerbase. This is bullshit btw. The core playerbase stems from DeS and DS1. Those games weren't difficult and nobody played them for stupid shit like hard as balls autistic bossfights. Everyone who does is just a twitch hypebeast who wasn't alive when DS1 came out and who only knows the franchise as >YOOO IT'S LIKE, SO HARD! FROMSOFT HARD! DARK SOULS LEVEL OF DIFFICULTY!
>>483865468all phantoms are scaled to the host's skibidi level, allied or enemy
I beat the DLC without summoning and thought none of the bosses were harder than Malenia.
>>483865468how is it possible that everyone with the frog mask without exception are the biggest faggots alive
>>483865471Yeah, this was my main complaint. The Frenzy Woods was super cool when I found it.... only to realize that there was only one short area in the entire massive thing. Granted, it had one of the cooler DLC bosses so that was nice, at least.
>>483865471I don't mind the emptiness of the starting area, if anything it feels a bit fitting, it only really becomes egregious when you start running into the problem everywhere.
>>483865149>>483865325>>483865385>All St. Trina bro trust me bro the DLC story is deep they didn't change everything to include Miquella in the end>W-what? Knight of the Gloam-Eyed Queen? No ending? Memezaki can't do no wrong!
I'm thinking St. Trina is simply the better Miquella.
What are the best pure physical weapons in the game in terms of dps and moveset?
>>483865539It may be too late, but if not hes probably west of castle surrounded by poison with the Briar boss I forget its name. Hes sulking in the lava past the magma wyrm boss.
>>483865539they patched his quest getting bricked like 18 months ago. if you go further he simply skips ahead. required meetings are radahn grace, mt gelmir lava bath, faram azula
Why isn't there a new ending to the main game
>>483864675that's just retarded speculation with no evidenceyou can't really trust that blue bitch, she lies all the time
>>483862880what would you rather have? gankers posting their webms of killing 1 underpowered little dude, and gloating like they accomplished something? any time an invader wins it's a miracle in this game with literally no downscaling for phantoms and summoner class hosts with laser beams coming from every direction in dead open world levels. fuck you and yo mama.someone post their favorite DLC invasion webms, i want to watch them now. fuck you you co-oping ez mode ganking apologist piece of shit, we know who you are.
>>483864621The only thing people complain about with Malenia is waterfowl dance, which is STILL the most broken move in the game. It’s horribly designed and the amount of planning you need to properly deal with it is just retarded. Outside of that she’s a pushover boss.
>>483865769theyve never done that
>>483865712And also my wife, now that Miquella is taken. Back off.
>just remembered Jellyfish Shield exists and synergizes with Ghiza's Wheel's playstyle of 1H Strong Attacks>Just realized Thorny Crystal Tear is a thing and stacks with Rotten Winged InsigniaSeeing my AR shoot up to 2000 is really nice. it's a shame I missed the White Mask since I already killed Mohg, though.
>>483865715I wike the Cwaymore but it's not the best at aww
>>483865628des was quite difficult and if you were a noob ds1 was difficult as well
>>483864561Speaking ofMalenia and Miquella's shadows and fingers, where are they?Ranni needed some mcguffin to kill her fingers so I doubt they're dead.
>>483865712Trina is Miquella's love. For someone who wants to build his age on compassion, yes, this is his best part and his entire tragedy is that he got rid of her and lost sights of his goals
>>483865621I was born in a small village... - Marika the EternalCommander of the Erdtree Legion
>>483865501> you are now essentially in a boss battle you didn't sign up for You kinda did when you popped the furling remedy and summoned other players. I get the point you're getting at and that it feels to people like that, but not all feelings have to be legitimized. Early souls games invasions never felt extremely sweaty or high stakes because of the mechanics involved. People were mad about it sometimes yes but they knew they brought it on themselves by playing online while human and that's really the end of the complaint.
>>483865471you are delusionaljust because there aren't some shiny item for you to pick up every other step it doesn't mean it's empty
>FaithLarger amount of powerful weaponsBetter mixing with ARC to get ARC/FAI Dragon Incants which are really fucking goodBest offensive buffs that go with any build (Golden Vow, Flame Protect Me)Absurd amount of utterly broken defensive buffs (+60% negation on elemental damage is crazy)Health RegenAccess to all kinds of elemental damageBest burst damage spell (Pest Threads)Highest Damage spell in the game critical for oneshots (ADLS)Black Blade 10% HP cutBlackflame DoTsWeapon buff spells to access Bleed via BloodflameCure poison/rot utilityLong range snipes with FrenzyDedicated anti-undead abilities that invalidate a decent chunk of enemies in the gameCan inflict Rot and bleed with rare incants>Sorceries50 variations of Glintstone Shard, along with a bunch of recoloursBest spells are just emulating a real swordHugely expensive Moon spells are hardly worth itBarely any buffsHas IceGravity mostly sucks outside of throw rocksPitiful fire options only really used to reset frostbiteMost of their powerful spells take so long they're uncastable in the DLCWhy is INT so shafted compared to Faith?
>>483865696name a singular time at any point miquella was associated with sleep mist or spirits.
>>483863386That's a gay mechanic, I love getting invaded and throwing on the mimic veil to watch people bumble around while I giggle
Romina's theme is the best song in the DLC
>>483861656STR/ARC bleed Gugs > everything else.
>>483865628>We are now into "Dark Souls was never hard" territory of revisionismDark Souls isn't hard now because everything after Bloodborne has made the old games look like they're played in slow motion. Going back to Dark Souls after Elden Ring is like fighting in the Matrix.
>>483865305I see. I guess that makes sense.
>>483865850the white mask is not missable. the invaders have nothign to do with mogh or varre besides lore.
>>483864291Talk to the painter girl dumbass.
what bosses in the dlc are even considered hard by normies (not an insult its ok to be a normie). consort radahn i would argue has issues but everything else felt easier than malenia etc to me.
Gaius is so good once you learn him. Too bad his reputation is gonna be in the toilet.
>>483865945Star Wars was never good chud, get over it.
>>483865786>gankers posting their webms of killing 1 underpowered little dudeyes
>offhand death blight is backOf fucking course
Every invasion I had today has been passivefagsSummons don't lose souls and I didn't even had mobs I just don't want to walk into an ambush open area with no cover. Im here waiting after I blocked just watching what the fuck they must be thinking
>>483864230>Sweaty invaders are the natural result of making invading harder.retarded post proven wrong by the existence of the earlier games when invaders were completely overpowered but they still twinked out of their mind so they could one shot hosts
>>483865951
>>483865471>starting zone is barren>backhand blades, beast claws, great katana, new weapon & armor, deflecting hardtear golem, all within a 1 minute rideok retard
>>483864367st. trina.
>>483863468>I thought it would make the game too easyI can't believe people like this exist lmao how do you even function without a handler
THEY REMOVED THE 13 INT FOR SWORD OF NIGHTTHE ARCANE BUUUUUUUILDTHE ARCANE BUUUUILD IS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL(6 points saved)
>>483865916Because INT still has all the super cool and powerful shit that was in the base game.
>>483864230Man I ran so much themed bullshit in DeS. My favorite was this retarded "stealth" build where I hid in the rafter and cast laughter all over the map. They're not going to be able to see me so fuck it.>>483865501>anyone you get invaded by has pvp-optimized gear.There were twinks in every game but by and large most invasions were people just taking their pve build to rock. You only ever usually saw truly optimized gear in the designated dueling street.Sans the popular pseudo-try shit like scraping and giant dad.Even in DaS2 where there were massive incentives for getting streaks you nearly never saw a red with his fiery "you're getting violated" aura.But I sure fucking saw a shit ton of shimmering fucking blues
So what stops our Tarnished to ascend once he becomes an elden lord? You're now the ruler of this entire land. You may use the gate of divinity too.
fromsoft just needs to choose>Keep boss complexity as it isGive the players more movement and defensive options ala Sekiro>Keep player movement and defensive options as isScale down the boss design and weaken player offense to compensate
>>483865696You're been posting this retarded nonsense for over a fucking week now. Can you give it a rest? You do not understand how games are made and how big projects work in general. The general storylines are always written first. Sure, there might have been another ending cutscene that might have been cut (for whatever reason) but they did not change the whole narrative in the DLC last minute. If you genuinly believe this, you are a total retard. The entire DLC is based around the story that we got. The characters, dialogue, visual storytelling. It's all consistent. They did not change this last minute.
>>483865992Why is he considered a bad boss? I used the deflect tear on him and thought he was really fun but I realized I may have not had issues with him because of the deflecting either. Almost nothing he does stands out to me as very difficult.
>>483865916it has comets which shred 99% of the things in the game without thought
>>483865916Oh, I have a point for sorceries you forgot>Requires a staff that doubles FP cost to REMOTELY compete with any other playstyleNo need to thank me, bro.
I'm getting constantly summoned non stop for every boss in the dlc this is pretty fucking neat
>>483862880lmao this lil' nigga actually lost to an invader with his three boyfriends covering for his every mistake lmaoooo
>>483866024star wars vidya in the early 2000s definies star wars. everything else is gay
>>483865867theres uhhhh a furnace golem (that you fight 10 of them)and a dancer hornsent next to the map because miyazaki thought it would be funny if you get raped if you decide to grab itghostbirds (that you find it everywhere)
>>483863293>>483864292>>483865151My dealio is that the damage bosses do is pretty insane. Like they'll throw out these huge comboes and if even two hits graze you, you'll die even if you're pumping the VIG to its softcap. Putting on the heaviest armor might give you one extra hit before going down. I don't like having to chug estus after every single hit. I honestly felt tankier in Sekiro than I do in ER. Now, older games also had one or two shot attacks, but these were singular, powerful attacks or came at the end of a combo and had a lot of readability to tell you to GET AWAY, whereas in ER, they're just the normal attacks of the boss.
>>483865916Because 99% of the time Int's 59 variants of glintstone are the best, most optimal option, whereas faith has to spam a less efficient, slower, more easily dodged can’t with a charge time for optimal use. Also int got jerked off hard in the base game, dlc is fth's turn.
>>483865927And you could still do that if the invader is the one who has to find you. Even better you get to watch him slowly dying while panicking trying to find you.
>>483865818ds2
>>483861206What is the level meta for PVE on NG=0?
>>483866063>fextra
How are you supposed to make stength/faith, or strangth/arcane work without like reapplying buffs every time it runs out? Are you like just supposed to find a 10 second window every time or like am I missing something?It seems like I just like make my sword not strong and my arcane not steong and get no benefits
>>483865553>the flooded sectionThe part that eventually leads to the catacomb before abyssal woods, or you mean something else?
>>483866153His charge has a really bad hitbox that makes him one shot people put of nowhere
>>483862880>Dont post gameplay webms of the game this general is aboutcry about it bitch tits
Is it worth playing Sekiro and learning to parry? I don't like to parry and I am shit at it. I always just run and roll.
>>483866101In the patch?
>>483866132>Give the players more movement and defensive options ala Sekirothey kinda did, just through flasks. like the deflecting hardtear is extremely overpowered and lasts 5 minutes.
>>483866116t. watched someone use comet azur like 4 years ago and has never touched an int build in his life
How different is GRRM lore of Miquella with what we got? I wonder if GRRM actually made him good or if he was also a little evil in his version.GRRM wrote 50 pages filled with Miquella smut and nothing else
>>483866153he's considered a bad boss because his charge is bugged to be nigh-undodgable, and there's a certain subset of autistic players who absolutely refuse to equip a shield. these same people say relanna is good because you can just back away from her for 10 seconds, run in and hit once, and rinse-repeat.
>>483866246A broken clock is right twice a day.
>>483866186Yeah except me or the host die within seconds so i either stack defense like a motherfucker and do miserable damage or go glass cannon and die when the aggro changes
Does INT have anything like this
>>483865231I only resorted to shieldpoking for Radahn (forma de homo) but it basically felt like godmode. I don't see how someone could die with that type of build.I'm gonna blame it on assmongoloid being a retard.
Just did Radahn for the first time so I'm Ra-done with this DLC.This description feels weird almost like it was shoehorned in the last minure of the development cycle.Malenia whispering to his ear? Really? That does not really feel fitting after her fight.
>>483865860>MaleniaMaybe her sensei her sealed the God of Rot in the underground lake>MiquellaThe Torrent theory seems lulzy, so I'll go with that
>>483866186Yeah it feels good to be able to properly coop again.
>>483866258no that's different, there's a church region that is flooded and you can unflood with a lever
>>483866067>great katanas just sitting in a lake>beast claws on a lone npc in a corner >tear on the one golem walking arounddon't even remember the blade location I just remember how empty everything was.
>>483866138>Everyone complaining is the same personSure thing bro. Keep coping like a schizo. Everyone complaining about the DLC after Messmer is just me.
>>483865851I love the claymore too but you type like a faggot
>Mimicfags coping, seething and dilating>Coping about how they used Mimic>"It's in the game! It's fair!">"I only use what I enjoy, not what's overpowered.... I just enjoy it, okay??">KILL YOURSELF GATEKEEPING NERD REEEEEI need to gatekeep these violent terrorists out of my comfy video games. No one should suffer abusive threats :(Remember... use what you enjoy... and have fun!
>>483865793waterfowl is one of the reasons malenia is fun. Learning to deal with it consistently is the rewarding part of that fight. You go from it being seemingly impossible to being able to dodge, or at least survive it every time.
>>483866132The problem is that Sekiro was a bit too restrictive, while Elden Ring maybe has too much freedom
>>483866303>>483866361I guess that's what I didn't notice then because you just deflect it with the tear, lol, it even gives you the roll back animation when deflected which ends up being favourable for him.
>>483866364okay but i tested every missable in the base game extensively myself over my 14 ng+ runs. it's not true
>>483866373nah.closest thing is ghostflame ignition and that only ever chunks when frostbite triggersi think thats the only spell with stacking projectiles. its fucked up.i think i killed dancing lion from like 50% with a well placed one
>>483866057howneed instructions
>>483866220just open the interactive map since you are clearly braindead and have somehow already forgotten everything in a week old dlc
>>483863575>to dodge the delayed double swipe into cross slash you have to backstep into rolling forwards huh
so those scat tree fragments only work in pve? because i can see this system work well with the community deciding to pvp limit at lvl 150
>>48386624880 seconds is plenty of time especially at the start and you can use phase transitions to reapply. No clue how non-faith players even play the game
>>483863714Anyone who gives a fuck how someone else plays video games is a permavirgin. This shit is a (mostly) singleplayer game too, I literally do not give one single fuck about how you decide to play it it doesn't affect me in any way. Run through with Godmode for all I care
What's Midra's deal and why do we fuck him up
>>483866436You use the same pictures and phrases each time. You repeat them multiple times each thread. You don't have to be a fucking rocket scientist to realize it's you, fucker.
>>483866101it never had it in the live build iircit still sucks rn but thats unclear if its because its actually supposed to have int scaling or because of the shield pierce mechanic
>>483866434so is your complaint is that a field is visually empty or something? it's a fucking field
>>483866223It's really impossible to judge if Radahn did too much damage to me as I was in NG+ and didn't get max Scadu level, but he could easily kill me with a single combo and was relying on scarlet rot to drain his health. I have another character in a first run through and they'll be my way of properly judging the difficulty.
>>483865151>approaching a real breaking point in the progression of their game design.only because they're ramping up boss movesets while keeping player movement options the same. it's a dead horse but that's all there is to it.
>>483866380actually this is the only good part of the whole radahn plot to me. you can see her whisper something in his ear in the story trailer of the base game, and for the past two years we all just assumed it was her using the scarlet rot incantation. kind of cool for them to call back to it like this.
>>483866417And I bet I've somehow walked right past the path to that place without even realizing
why isn't Bayle called Baylesseax?was the -sax like surname for the ancient dragons only?
>>483864193Doesn't Ranni or Melina explicitly say it at some point? I may be misremembering.
>>483866380watch the story trailer, newshitshe clearly told him something
>>483866062Obviously you're always going to have min-maxers but from my experience of actually having played those games they weren't the majority of invaders.
>>483866373I beat Bayle on my first try with the Dragon KatanaThis thing is fucking nuts
>>483865643>none of the bosses were harder than maleniaI mean you do you, but I don't didn't even think malenia was the hardest boss of the base game. She was rather disappointing for all the hype built up for her.
>>483866373on ng7 that blade does less than half of its damage there
>>483866120Only Empyreans can become gods.
>>483866631it takes 30 seconds for them to retcon something so they can bring back your basedboy warriorthis shit is retarded
>>483866526he's using a talisman that increases iframes on backsteps so keep that in mind. might not be as easy to replicate without it. but rolling forwards on the cross slash was very obvious
>>483866564
>>483866090fromsoft made armored core 6 easy with later patches
so is it Faith w/ a weapon > Int of all kinds > Pure 'caster' faith?
>>483863797The flame knights are cringe
>>483866469>Its fun to deal with a move that will instantly kill you if it activates while you’re mid attack or point blank
Confessor set is still the most aesthetic armor in the game
>>483866153Like anons have said, his charge is hard to dodge, but also Gaius himself HATES when you heal. He punishes it more than most other bosses, so less-than-good players probably get extremely frustrated that they have to dodge something in order to heal.
>>483866562You beat up some schizophrenic man living in severe pain after breaking into his house for no reason and he unleashed his jewfire power on you
anyone rememner this one knight boss who can use a frog tongue?is it an actual ash of war/ incantation? can't find anything online about it...
Gaius is very fun with deflecting tear.
>>483866710There is no reason for me to cope, about anything. I like the DLC, don't care for a removed cutscene. I am just annoyed at seeing your fucking spam here every single day. Get a fucking life you stupid cunt.
>>483866373No. INT is characterized by being highly functional and efficient (hence the lack of flashy anime moves in its casts and WAs). Now if you're asking if INT has a spell that could chunk that bad boy like AD Lightning, they have Meteor of Astel.
>>483863797The DLC recycles way too many enemies and bosses from the base game. A base game that was already notorious for recycling enemies too much.
>>483866626>while keeping player movement options the sameAnon they literally gave the player a rideable horse and the ability to jump in Elden Ring.
>>483866057Going to invade before radahn with this now
>>483866745Dane set is even cooler.
I'm gonna rolling sparks every fucking boss to deathAnd you're gonna tell me I beat the DLC because I soloed it you fucking pricks.
>>483866373you can fire 3 comets in the time it takes to use one charged skill and on ng+7 each one does around 1950 damage which ain't bad
>>483866318Sekiro parry is nothing like the parrying in dark souls or elden ring
>>483866359all of the demigods were good-to-decent people and only became fucked up after the shattering.godrick developed a crippling inferiority complexrenalla got mindbrokenrykard snaked himselfmalenia became a prideful warmongerradahn got completely mindfucked and turned into an animalmiquella became a control freak with a savior complex
>>483866721int is always in last placepure caster faith can clear the game and has ways to chunk bosses easily>>483866373
>>483866707i JUST said i didnt like the radahn reveal. i just think its cool they called all the way back to something from one of the first trailers.
>>483866653Your stepdad is newshit, nigger. This is a clear retcon.
>>483866709I mean he backsteps the first delayed slash and rolls the second delayed one, and rolls one more the cross slash which is obvious and I did that already, yeahIt was just the delayed shit that always clipped me in the second hit
>>483866721weapon skills are good on every build. waves of darkness on a zwei is gross for pure int
>>483866380>Malenia whispering to his ear?She actually did. Not saying it was probably planned all along though.
>>483866871So it's worth it for me to learn? If I can beat Elden Ring, can I beat Sekiro? Or is it much harder (especially since I don't know the mechanics).
>>483866809ive been preaching this for a couple days now. really really fun fight with that tear
Is Int just suffering from the Comet Azur one-shot video tax?
>>483866061Ten Hefty Rot Pots for the rescue!
>>483866771no, it's not a thinglol, I love how out of place it isit's like miyasaki is just taking the piss on players
Erdtree greatshield bros ww@
If i see one more streamer take less damage than me with fewer fragments (pre patch) i will kill myself. I must be doing something wrong to be taking so much damage
>>483866771it's so weird to me, they went out of their way to add the other missing crucible skills that were reserved to ennemies, but they add a freaky frog tongue and don't let the player have it...can't even hold hope in the future since we aren't getting any other dlc...
>>483866812>uhh durr acstuallly you've been posting this every day every hour for a week>i know it because i've been here the whole time!>get a life!Good job.>I like the DLCGood for you? Will any criticism make you change your mind? Will you sperg out if someone mentions that they don't like rice if you do, too?
>>483866983it's an entirely different set of mechanics
>>483866771No, you can't get it. It's another wasted opportunity and a sign the DLC is unfinished.
>>483866373>5 million buffs activeyou aren't impressing anyone, anon.
>>483866223>Putting on the heaviest armor might give you one extra hit before going down.Yeah, I hate how there feels like barely any difference between armor tiers in ER, especially with how much investment you need to wear the heavier sets. Like you need 61 poise just to not get interrupted by light dagger attacks.
>>483866934did they really call back or did they just see the redditors posting the same comment about fighting radahn in his prime for 3 years
>>483866857>weapon is obscenely unbalanced>naturally it gets nerfed>a spirit is obscenely unbalanced>it never gets nerfed because the devs just don't give a fuck
fuck new weapons, all trash except for perfumes, but those are beyond levels of GAYi'll stick with this beauty, my beloved
>>483864897I'm pretty sure it all went according to plan except that Miquella expected us to side with him, or failing that, to beat us into submission with Radahn's help.
tfw I'm one of the few that thinks the final boss is a fantastic fightfinally something that lives up to the final boss partI think every game they do from now should one up the difficulty especially on the final boss encounterslike imagine radahn with a third phase
>>483866983the answer is yes, sekiro is extremely fun and rewarding to learn, it will teach you its mechanics
>>483866892>radahn got completely mindfucked and turned into an animalradahn didn't turn into an animal until after malenia farted on him
>>483866664they also aren't the majority now outside of low level and meta level (just like the previous games)
>>483866223Yeah, it’s dumb.Remember when people hyped up Midir’s laser? Remember how despite it being a one shot, he only used it if you were far away from him? Yeah well, every DLC boss in Elden Ring has his laser as a normal move that they can whip out at any time. It’s fucking dogshit.
>>483866982This is such a certified Martin writing, it was absolutely planned.
>The DLC shouldve done more to the base game, new ending etc>From DLC's never do that>thats the way its been and thats the way it always should be!Conservatards, everyone
SSo do we know if scoobydoofragments stay with us in NG+ or do I gotta get those again?
INSANE gameplay webm
>>483866736>he can't tell when Melenia is about to waterfowl based on her moodI guess it's stuff you only learn when you actually pay attention.
>>483866641bayle is a lesser dragon, that's why he attacked placidusax in the first place.
>>483867116Euporia :3
what are the spectral banished knights weak to?
>Fromsoft PLANNED to disappoint their entire fanbase with a shitty final bossThis is intense copium, only fromsoft drones can produce itVery potent
>>483866983probably one of the best things about sekiro besides how beautiful it is, is that there's no online. no summoning help. it's all you. it's a 10/10 game and everyone should experience it at least once in their lives before they die, that's how good it is. i could live at that buddhist temple it's so beautiful.
>>483867035>>483867084i hope someones adds it as a mod
>>483866725explain
>>483864515What's the point of trying to do pvp if you're just going to block everything that you die to lol there's easier ways to feel better about your life
>>483867217Just headcanon yourself through it. Miyazaki doesn't need to tell stories. Even if the top 1 answer for why they like Elden Ring was the lore.
>>483867239>1348>samurai white mask and RoBthis nigga living in 2002
>>483866983I genuinely believe Sekiro is one of their easiest games once you understand how it works, but it's extremely fun and rewarding.
>>483867239Poopa on fire today
Definitely one of the cooler bosses but holy shit I hate madness so much.
>>483867217I mean cyberpunks DLC does the exact same thing. Just a random story that takes place in the middle of the game and affects nothing.But at the very least they changed one of the endings, even if it was super minor, to make it clear that the events of the DLC did infact happen.As it stands the DLC basically never happened, there is not even one single change to the base game to mention the DLC happened. Beyond retarded
>>483867217I just wanted some kind of recognition in the base game like Bloodborne did with the Doll and Maria. Not even being able to tell Gideon about it is very strange to me.
>The effects of the forager brood's pickled delights are enhanced by the fermentation, or rotting, of the ingredients. Though thisresults in a pungent odor, some come to find the aroma irresistible.Reminder alcohol is a gift of rot
>>483866562>Midra and wife were researching Frenzied Flame (to burn away despair)>Midra's wife is pregnant >Hornsent found out and killed his entire family >Midra isn't strong enough to become Lord of Frenzied Flame to btfo them>Hornsent crucified Midra with sword>His wife told him to live before dying with their baby>You find him and hurt him enough he finally gives up living, and the despair is strong enough he became a real Lord of Frenzied Flame
>>483866510>>483866057pls share I loved fucking around with it
>>483867246these incels just don't know how to deal with women
>>483867268they wear metal armor so they are weak to lightning and pierce.
Why does this trannygger hate the power of blocking users?
Frenzied Flame is the coolest faction or whatever you wanna call it in Elden Ring change my mind
>>483866982I don't really think it was planned and always assumed that she was just activating incantation. It's funny how she just says "my brother's bussy is ready" during the fight, fails to finish the job, does absolutely nothing about it and just sits in one place lamenting the loss of Miquella. Does not fit together.
>>483867062There is not a single doubt in my mind that the dlc was actually finished
>>483866983Yeah. Do note that Sekiro has a pretty difficult game start though, and that's not just because you're new to the game. I've restarted on several fresh saves after beating Isshin and am still always surprised by the difficulty hump at the beginning. It's one of the only failures of the game that it doesn't have a smooth difficulty curve upwards.
>>483867180even in the alpha script before the rot plotline he became a blithering lunatic because of malenia.
>>483867479But my heckin lore!!!!
>>483867297The fanbase is cumming buckets over fighting an old favourite
>>483866983I'd play the game because it's fantastic but no the parrying is completely different and won't help you in elden ring or dark souls, which have the least intuitive parrying system of any game I have played that has a parry.
>>483867469it obviously is the coolest
>>483867392It helps that once you beat Sekiro once you can pretty much beat it again with very few deaths, it's like some kind of enlightenment shit
>>483867409Where you find that incant at
>>483866845not an issue especially since they gave old enemies new moves
>>483866346Yeah, sorry. INT was definitely weak in the base game and had no options at all. FTH was super overpowered and only moreso in the DLC. You're very smart anon, I can't believe I ever thought to contradict you.
>>483867434Melina would've sided with the hornsent.
While using only greatshield and lance when is it my turn to attack the omen?
>>483867262>milady>euporia>dane set
how come malenia didn't get a cool new follower in the DLC
>>483865916>Why is INT so shafted compared to Faith?Magic just got a 28 iframe cancellable dodge roll that allows spell chaining.
>>483867595catty tranny post. do a push up lil nigga
>>483867669malenia got shit on
Reminder that there's literally no reason to ever even do the DLC in-universe. Miquella can't reach his goal without you doing literally everything because he can't or won't call his sister and her army for some reason. And then after you spend 30 hours doing his work you kill him five minutes after he ascends. You don't even get a functioning Great Rune from it. The entire thing is completely pointless and reeks of a rewrite.
>>483867062Adjucator reference.
who the fuck are you
>>483867575>One dragon got new moves so all the recycled enemies dont count!Cope fromdrone.
>>483866057>>483866510It's only for enemies not for friendly fireunfortunate
>>483866101>arcane Isn't that a pure dex weapon?
>>483867239You can roll through a lot of this though? Why is it working so well? Is it just a case of people not being used to it & the other new stuff yet?
>>483867669romina was pretty cool
>>483866026why? i mean, i know why, i've dealt with your kind for years, but i want to hear you explain why in your own words.
>>483867702my character did it out of curiosity and the desire to have lesbian sex with leda (didn't work out)
>>483866983Sekiro has the steepest learning curve and is their easiest game once you're over it. Basically Genichirio will kill you 400 billion times until you've studied the blade enough to beat him then it's the best game ever
>>483867297>Look at R*ddit>Look at Twitter>Look at Steam reviews>a shit ton of disappointment over the endingWhat was his end game?>>483867753Goldmask but in Miquella's gang. He even prefers to talk with his hands.
>>483865793I beat Malenia on my third try and it only took me three tries because it took me that long to figure out how to consistently dodge waterfowl. As soon as she goes up I sprint from the first three slashes and roll through the last. Malenia is a good boss fight and strictly a skill issue.It took me 13 tries to beat Radahn, I like his fight too but there's less clarity and less downtime so I don't blame people for taking a while to figure him out. I think people will get the hang of him over time, I don't think he's as unfair as people say he is they're just overreacting to the giga particles
>>483867783it's a magic wand that shreds enemy holy resist
>>483867434Why does this description mention the Golden Order? I don't know what its trying to say
>>483867058hardtear physic, greatshield talisman and appropriate drake talismans, also popping boiled crab and golden vow all the time.I'm fine with the passive defensive buffs, but any consumable buffs that aren't thematically consistent with your build I consider cheating.
>>483867753Left looks like he's heading to a bloodborne convention
>Godskin and Gloam-Eyed Queen are just another faction run by Metyr going schizoVery cool cut content Michael Zaki
>>483867753Do the May The Best Win Gesture in front of him.
>>483867090if you're not buffing you're not playing elden ring correctly
>>483867571Google it dumbass.
>>483867753left looks like the black npc from Lords of the fallen
>>483867421its almost entirely irrelevant to the endings presented in the game, it doesn't have to affect anything. gideon not having lines about it makes no sense but they werent going to put that in
>>483866506nta. I can go test this right now. My mohg is dead.
>>483867896gig particles is unironically the worst part of the fight and the desire to add MORE PARTICLE EFFECTS to fucking everything is a bad one
>>483867082I don't care about real criticism. I'll even reply to it if it's interesting. What I am annoyed with, is the constant seething and moaning in these threads. Especially people spreading false information about entire alternate story routes being cut / rewritten (which is beyond retarded and doesn't have any evidence). It's okay to prefer a different ending or outcome. I didn't like the finale for Succession (TV show) because I would've prefered a somewhat more "happy ending" similar to what these Miquella fags are saying. But I didn't go cry on /tv/ for a fucking week about it. The people who made the story wanted to tell a different tale. So what? If you don't like it, write your own shit.
Can someone on PC drop a swift strike
>>483865628This is complete bullshit. First time I played a souls game was in 2011. Dark Souls built its reputation on being difficult. They even named the GOTY edition the PREPARE TO DIE edition you absolute nonce
>>483867217FROM's DLCs have always been totally independent to the stories and characters in the main game. It's almost like they're two separate games that share the same universe and lore rather than a story within another as is the case with DLCs from other devs.
>>483867434But Nanaya isn't cradling a dead baby, she's cradling the fucking spinal column of another Lord of Frenzy. Midra was hoodwinked by his own Hyetta.
>>483867798Not a follower of Malenia though. Rot got a lot of stuff, but not Malenia
>>483867908did you forget how marika was crucified
>>483867392that's because sekiro has easy mode turned on by default and you can only turn it off by beating the game once
Not a single new destined death or godskin weapon/incant/ash.>>483867908>this weapon will escape the nerfs somehow
>>483867297They know people don't actually get to the final bosses for 80-90% of the audience, so why would they bother. Notice how none of the games (except for Sekiro) have the last boss as the notable cool one.
>>483867872I have zero timing retention. Parrying and music rhythm games blow me out even after 100 hours invested. I am the nigga spamming shinobi firecrackers and using the cheesiest scummiest tech to win. I HATED Sekiro lmao
>>483867595>faith>spend 3 minutes buffing yourself>finally end up with 5% more damage than a STR/DEX player>hit them once>buff runs outWowzers
https://youtu.be/JeBOIYnVq54?si=K5C9Iyc__DK7ueCX&t=143
>>483867791You kinda need to know how to dodge it. The first hit (the wide arc swipe) has a mini hitbox during the startup that true combos into the swipe if you're standing right in front of the attacker. The thrusts are really easy to dodge if you roll sideways (that retard rolled backwards) and you can poise tank a few of them if you have high poise (which he did not, so they all true combod)
>>483863293I feel very vindicated because the first impression I had of this game is that it's designed so that winning thanks to fast reactions is fucking forbidden and everything takes agesYou vill die to the same boss 20 times to memorize perfect iframes, and you will be happyTX2YH
>>483868156>Notice how none of the games (except for Sekiro) have the last boss as the notable cool one.Gael or the Soul of Cinder?
>>483867896>I beat Malenia on my third try and it only took me three tries because it took me that long to figure out how to consistently dodge waterfowl. Stopped reading here.
>>483868274>comparing casting to caveman r1 gameplayfaith and int are both terrible
>>483866061this is one of the reasons i stopped invading in this game in general. they have all the advantages and they will still act like scared little bitches. you'd think "oh i'll just wait they'll get bored" but then for the next 10-15 minutes you're just watching them t-bag at a distance. 3 people, not playing the game, just standing there in an open field. nothing you can really do about it. nothing in the game actually forces them to progress in any way, they can stand around all day.sure you can shoot shit at them, but it does little damage and they can just dodge it because they have zero distractions. it's just really boring and lame. after awhile it feels tedious and futile because you can't attack them and they refuse to attack you despite having a million host advantages, password summons, twinked out, the works. it's just not fun. if i were a more cynical man i'd figure out how to install CE without getting a virus just so after a certain time limit i could start pushing the instant kill button on those types.
>>483866846>souls finally did what Zelda did in '98The absolute fucking state of this series.
>>483868112almost like having a difficulty setting is good or something
>>483866468Why are you posting my favorite anime reviewer?
>>483867756>retard is so unfamiliar with the base game that he can't even tell that many other enemies also got new moves
>>483868062The playerbase's approach to difficulty has changed. People jerked off the difficulty of the old games so much that what was once seen as something clever or cool (Using parry to down Gwyn, making use of the arena in Capra to kill the dogs) would now be seen as 'cheese' and not really beating the game.People have to accept that some bosses have weaknesses and exploting those weaknesses is a valid and smart way to play the game, otherwise it's just endless reductionism until the only way to play is SL1 fist only.
>>483867421Nah, CP77's DLC is way more connected to the main game than anything from FROM. For one, characters from the main game will influence the quests of the DLC (like Panaam offering you an alternative way to complete a sidequest if you've advanced her questline, Reyes offering missions in the DLC area and commenting upon DLC events, or the newscasters talking about events in Dogetown).
Thanks for all the replies regarding Sekiro, I'll check it out. I bought Elden Ring 1,5 years ago and it was my first FromSoft game. I've recently played some other titles and so far this is my ranking from best to worst:>SotE>DS3>Elden Ring>Lies of P>DS1I really enjoyed DS1, but I cannot put it any higher due to some of the terrible late game areas. After completing SotE I want to try DS2 or Sekiro. Which should I play first? Can't play Bloodborne because I gave away my PS4 to the neighbours kids and forgot that I wanted to play it.
>>483865916Int has Godveil
>>483868279no blessing just means no hit run anyway so nothing new
>>483868401>Tibia Mariner summons Royal Revenants, DLC is saved.Wowza!
>>483867894>What was his end game?To make the greatest dlc ever made (he succeeded)
>>483868280You can easily avoid a lot of it the same way you avoid a lot of Messmer's attacks, roll into him, or into and to either side.
>>483867469It would be cool if it weren't for shabriri being an edgy troll loser.
>>483868057How do you have a pc and are bad at giving yourself stuff
>>483868279>roll>wait-wait-wait-wait>one hitRiveting gameplay.
>>483868530ds2 is cool but its the worst souls game (youll see when you play it)sekiro is probably their best game besides bloodborne but its not a souls game at allyour choice
>>483867960oh wow thats coolso he was the monk who left a message, completely forgot about itdamn that weapon is amazing
>>483867571I think it was from scorpion river catacombs.
>>483865976Gaius and Bayle, Rellana and Messmer to a lesser extent. Normies also got stuck on the Lion Dancer for whatever reason, probably because they all sprinted straight there without getting any scadufragst. twitchfag
>>483868665>>483868559>hovers over embedi'm talking about the timestamp
>>483868348>figure out how to install CE without getting a virusit's in the OP of this thread baka
>>483868606do you think that retard beat messmer on his own?
>>483868559You can survive a lot of shit without blessings, especially using Ritual Shield talisman. In fact a lot of bosses can still take 3 or so hits to down you.
>>483866983ER deflection is most similar to Lies of P. Sekiro's deflection mechanics are way more forgiving, nuanced, and satisfying than ER's.
>try to block counter an omen with my lance>doesn't flinch>keeps wailing on my shield and dont have time to recover stamina>try to move away or around him>just keeps swinging wildly nonstopis this even viable with his set up?
>>483868431None of the things you mentioned would he considered cheese today though. And also, Mimic Tear is not a "boss weakness", btw.
>>483868274Dex is still the worst stat
I regret helping the Hornsent. They deserved what they got.
Is there a reason why the Light of Miquella does ass for damage?>770 for initial burst>little bitch chip damage of 110 after hardly hitting even large enemies
>>483868274I don't know what you anons are talking about, but you in particular seem to have a strange perception of what FTH gameplay looks like, or what it can look like.
How come very few people mention how fucking bloated hp bars are in the dlc? Oh right, you used the troll arm to deal 10 times more in a few seconds
>>483868348For getting Cheat Engine without their shitty adware that flags anti-virus, just compile it youself from Github. There's instructions out there.
>>483868767wtf is hard about gaius? i thought he was a mini boss and died more to the sunflower
>>483868379it's not
why is it not okay to spirit summon, but it is okay for me to collect all of the scat fragments and become super OP and completely shit on every boss (but i did it solo!)?>having another dude breaks the AI and makes it way too easy!yeah so does max level skibidi + FP shield + rolling sparks + being RL333 + status effects, etc etc etc. what's your point?
>>483866061Every invasion I've ever had in this game outside of the first month of release is just 3 dudes standing around my spawn point waiting to gangbang me literally as my spawn animation ends. They ruined invasions in this game
I mean, Bloodborne also had rewarding combat, but I guess it wouldn't get the same recognition as Sekiro due to being older and Sony exclusive...
>>483868970Neither is
>>483868530I loved DS2 but I went into it with the expectation that it was a meme game. Tons of items and cool exploration. I only implore you that when you do play it, just level your ADP to 30 immediately so you have slightly better than DS1 midroll i-frames. So many people shit on DS2 because they never leveled ADP and they would get killed mid-roll due to no i frames.
>>483868431>your picwhat a gay fucking editthe original thing said something like >ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY TRIAL AND ERROR BULLSHITand it summed up precisely in which way the previous games were "difficult": you just had to think abou your approaches. You could beat bosses on the first time just fine. Now you can't anymore. The games changed. The playerbase did too, but so did the games
>>483868890The reason is From can't into balancing.>1000 damage at 80 faithJust stick to Catch Flame like a good boy.
>>483868772but i thought you could only roll...
>>483868815I had to learn how to parry a bit for the final Lies of P boss (still the hardest boss I ever fought, in any game). It was alright. Is Sekiro more forgiving? That would be good news for me.
>>483868279I can't wait for moonmoon to reach this 2 months from now on his SL1 no scadushitseven lobos opted for doing SL1 with blessings and he plays these games alot
Why is it okay for messmer to be an unfuckable rizzless incel but not me?
weird how the claws aren't getting any talk in these pvp meta discussions, they have nasty combos that most hosts won't know or be able to read yet
>>483868896You are either using a dagger, a straight sword one-handed, or just have like 7 skibidtree blessings.I came to Messmer with 15 and stomped him royally, next run will be going to him with 0 to actually experience the boss
>>483863797>Too many empty open world areas, the finger valleys being the worst example, no boss and just a couple of shitty items to loot>The fact that they still intend players to farm for hours to use a consumable for 5 seconds>The open world is still fucking awful for multiplayer>Scadutree killing random co op for a bunch of people because the host AND the phantoms can be extremely weaker now>Couple of bosses have terrible hitboxes>Those couple of bosses are also making it terribly obvious that the camera is becoming a huge issue when fighting big enemies specially if they're extremely fast>Final area is extremely lazy and bad, just a couple of lazily placed HP bloated enemies with boss movesets that hit like a truck>Radahn is a terrible final boss concept>Radahn is the breaking point for the Souls formula, unless they drastically improve how the player can aggress then we're doomed to roll for 20 minutes before getting one attack in or hiding behind a greatshield abusing status (Also physical builds are basically cooked)That's all I can think of right now
>>483868890if you stack buffs it oneshots things from a mile away, its fine
>>483868970Didn't you post this earlier in this very thread? Why are you so mad? Stop being such a crybaby.
>>483868970Its ok and the bosses in this game are clearly designed around them, and thats the problem. Plenty of fans of these games want their honorabru 1v1 duel with the boss, and designing a game around summons allows them to make anime tier spaz's thats not fun to fight.
anyone got an extra copy of swift slash to trade/give
>>48386909115 is insane at messmermost are there with 7-9
>>483867971kys in real life>>483868747thank you
>>483868970Dude just fucking play the game the way you want. Why ANYONE would seek for validation online? Do you feel satisfied with your run? Did you have fun?Ask yourself those questions and if the answer is "YES" then nothing else matters.
>>483868896this is a suggestion to use your scadutree blessings
>>483864763>he hasn't been in the sweat fcs
>>483869007Thanks for the tip. Should I play SOTFS or the original, classic DS2?
How do I avoid that part of Messmer's anime combo where he stabs forward like a madman?If I roll into it I get caught by the lingering hitbox but if I sideroll it just tracks me anyways.
>>483868992The worst part about Sekiro was the lack of fashion and weapon variety.If I could dress up in Sekiro and pick from a handful of trick weapons it would be the . Bloodborne still edges that out for me just because I need the LARP
>>483868826People have said for ages greatshield or sekiro parry tear is cheesing Radahn and there's very little difference between parrying with the giant-ass DS1 parry window and the sekiro tear now.
>>483869195Exactly, I explored absolutely everything before I got to him, realizing that getting his flame or whatever is the turning point
>>483869123>Scadutree killing random co op for a bunch of people because the host AND the phantoms can be extremely weaker nowWhat the fuck are you talking about? With how many people are playing again, all of them trying to find new stuff, you can get easily summoned wherever the fuck you want and have a good time, it's great.
>>483868815Man, I can’t wait for the Lies of P DLC. Infinitely more excited for that than I was for Elden Ring.
>>483866168Comet is so mid now and they just nerfed terra magicka so the cheese is even more mid
>>483868970>posts it again for the 200th time
>>483868970I have no idea why people put Bleed on the bottom. Bleed is far worse than ash summoning.
>>483868970>not okay to spirit summonFor who?The only thing that matters is your level of entertainment. Trying to appeal to the "you didn't beat the game" clowns is nonsense. >"use all the tools">"except all of those tools".
>>483868970both break the game in different wayssummons are just sss rank on the tierlistbecoming op through exploring and leveling up and cheap shit is right under itpretty simple to understand if you have a braincell i would think
>>483869316Haven't you come across a bunch of retards with scadu level 1 at fucking Messmer? Because I sure have, a bunch of anons were complaining about similar situations yesterday
>>483869351you havent played it.
Can you get the really cool 2h the crucible knight uses in flame manor?
>>483869248SOTFS has integrated DLC but changes the world of the game around for the worse. Base 2 is also completely dead online.
>>483869248SotFS. There's no advantage to playing vanilla anymore SotFS got all the cool shit and fixes, by modern standards it would have just been fucking patch updates and not a separate release. Comes with all the DLC bundled in too unlike classic where you would have to buy them separately.
>>483869123the bandai namco employeer who's dedicated to defend the dlc in the thread will reply with "this not true">>483869316ask anyone who's been doing co-op recently how is it going.>acting as if the issue is not getting summoned
>>483869462>open menu>see skibidi level 1>sever out
>>483869123>>Too many empty open world areas, the finger valleys being the worst example, no boss and just a couple of shitty items to lootExplain why the finger valley being "empty" (whatever that means) is a bad thing
>>483866620He was two shotting me with 20 skibidi level on base ng with 55 vigorGranted my fashion is robes but I doubt armor would have made a difference he just shits out damage
>>483868928im too lazy for that and making a family share account on top of it. i decided instead to just stop invading the open world entirely. legacy dungeons can still work but you need to invade locally at specific ones and the activity is only going to last for so long after the DLC release date.i already thought about this. i worried that if i did it there would be no turning back and i'd probably spend the majority of my time making the game unplayable for open world gankers, and that's a spiteful life i'd rather not lead. but any of you are welcome to steal my idea if you want.
>>483868431I miss when the level was actively trying to kill you instead of just the bosses. Now the worst you get is some guy on a ballista or an ambush behind a door.
>>483869351>>483869432The thing is, they actually care somewhat about balancing the extremely broken spells and weapons, meanwhile summons don't get the same treatment at all.
the finger valleys were pretty obviously just cut content (which is fine and not some conspiracy shit like reddit would say)
>>483869248scholar removes some of the most egregious enemy spam areas in the base game and adds a cool extra ending and has the 3 dlcs, but also adds some super annoying stuff, the most notable one is tons of npc invaders in almost every area
>a 1v2 fight from the past is somehow more balanced than a 2v1 or 3v1 fight now
>>483869598Because it's nice to find things when you explore.When you first see them on the map you wonder if they're a cool portal to some ungodly place, a dungeon, or even one massive boss arena.Then it's just a giant empty space.You should put things in the empty space of your games
>>483869605armor absolutely does make a massive difference, especially for radahn who focuses on many hits of low damage moves
>>483869657>an ambush behind a door>an>singularMore like multiple ambushes behind a door in each dungeon. It's one of my biggest complaints about the level design here. It's not a surprise if it happens THAT often.
>>483869195>most are there with 7-9yeah and the average person in the base game was also a retarded viglet with low flask upgrade level
>>483869462Nah I avoid Messmer summons because it's more fun to help people through dungeons then a boss instead of getting summoned just outside the boss. I enjoy helping through the storerooms though, but most hosts kick you if you really do carry them through all of it, because you've taken them through like 5 graces at that point and they want to refresh their shit before doing a boss.
the difference is pretty funny
>>483869619i'm really confused by this webm
>>483869712>scholar removes some of the most egregious enemy spam areas in the base gameWhy would blatantly lie to him like that, Scholar adds MORE enemy spam in areas.
>>483866664Depends on where you got invaded. Certain areas were definitely more prone to twinkage, undead burg was almost always twinkst. 5k hours in das1 pvp from the day the game released
>>483869725because their ai is fucking stupid
>>483869834you catch aids buecaose of the pink mist
>>483869725Where the fuck are you finding 2v1 or 3v1 fights?Every elden ring fight is 1vx.
>>483869712I fucking love the NPC invaders. But I was treating this like an offline open world exploration simulator.
>>483869712>>483869536>>483869508Alright, guess I'll go with SotFS then. Thanks anons. First I'll beat DS3 again to get the last achievement.
>>483869834in a obtuse weird way, feels very tackysome of the side stories are better than the actual ending of the main story
>>483869834Story?
>>483869725They're all subparO&S solo isn't some high octane fight of properly spacing and attacking, it's borderline AI abuse where you get smough stuck on a pillar and have your way with Ornstein.
>>483869043Sekiro actually starts off way more difficult than ER and LoP, but it's mid and late game are easier and fairer than anything in either of those two games. Even the much hyped Isshin isn't too bad assuming you've actually been learning your enemies and not cheesing (he's a final exam style boss; all the attacks he uses are just mixups of the Ashina style many of your enemies have been using throughout the game). My advice is to unlock Mikiri Counter as soon as possible though. It trivializes all thrust attacks and makes the combat much more manageable. Only BS attacks in Sekiro are grabs.
>>483869834you kill the badguy and see a 30 second flashback cutscene that explains nothing
My wife, Leda, is really Miquella in disguise!
>>483869081incel? rellana was specifically there for his dick. its not her fault that messmer just so happened to prefer his mother
>>483869712>scholar removes some of the most egregious enemy spam areas in the base gameNo it does not. The worst offender is Iron Keep where Alonne knight's aggression is amped up and they have brkoen animation because of 60 FPS bug. It sometimes feels like they are dropping at you from the sky.
>>483869895it does though. the castle gates? 2 guys instead of 12. the other castle statue with the stone guys in the room? 2 guys instead of 12. some goes for a few other places.
>>483870017So Miquella is a cunt just like her then?
>>483869771>Because it's nice to find things when you exploreyou did find something (the zone itself)
>sharts of the unfinished DLC troon noises intensify
>>483870051>everyone jumped on the MessmerxRellana shipping>literally no one cares about MiquellaxRadahn
>>483869870So what? These areas are mostly used for environmental storytelling. Not every area has to have a secret around every corner. That takes away from exploring.>>483869980Sounds good. Can't wait. Also very excited for the Lies of P DLC. It will probably not be anywhere near as big as the main game, but any extra levels / bosses would be appreciated. I really liked the style of the game, the music, characters etc.
>>483870017My cute wife (boy). Would suck.>>483870051You think Rellana had a vore fetish? Just like Tanith? Where Messmer would turn into a big snake and put her in his mouth?
>>483870017would have been better than what we got
>>483869907>>483869978If you don't like that, there's this.
Do skibidies reset on NG+ or are they retained?
>>483870017it's pretty funny how this shit disappeared the instant leda started talking about MURDER and the STENCH OF CRUSTED BLOOD
>>483870017Leda is Bedivere
>>483870017Your wife was built for insta-loss mindbreaking.
>>483869598> "empty" (whatever that means)What a dishonest motherfucker
>saying "yOu DiDn'T bEaT tHe GaMe"Not only did you not beat the game but you also touch kids inappropriately.
>preserved his mother's village>runs a hospital to de-jar people>burns Horns*nt at the stake, en-masseExplain how Messmer is a bad guy again?
>>483870203retain
>>483867352They spam fireballs nonstop, their combos leave almost no downtime and they have poise too high to stagger with anything except big weapons. They're just really cringe for trash mobs is all
>>483870159and they share not a single word of dialogue with eachother let alone screentime
>>483870194one of the main reasons i dont want to replay ds3 are fuckign shit unfun bosses like this
>>483865151>>483865269You guys are simply shitters, Radahn is waaay eeasier than Malenia
>>483870114I can't care less about your worthless review screenshots you're not even talking about anythingyou're just pointing at number and expect people to get angry go back to twitch and steam charts you irrelevant nigger
>>483869895The five hundred Alonne knights are a lore addition. Their weight is the reason Iron keep is sinking.
>>483870275he's not but we have to kill him anyway. same with melina.
>>483870161>So what?One of the biggest criticisms about Elden Ring is the shitty rewards you get from "exploring" the base game. The copypasted caves and catacombs had piss poor rewards and as a result, would turn people off from exploring them.If, 2 years later, you release the DLC from said game, that continues with the same mistake and makes it worse with bad rewards in the open world (and in those areas, no rewards at all) people won't bother.If you can't see a problem with this and don't care, don't post either.
>>483870275He called me a lightless creature
>"bro this boss is kicking my ass why is it so fucking hard?">"dude you gotta level up your skippity-do-da level!">*levels up scat-man-do*>"wow you were right, that boss was easy! why does everyone think this game is so hard?">"NO BRO NOOOO THAT'S TOO MUCH LEVELING NOW IT'S TOO EASY YOU DIDN'T REALLY BEAT HIM NO BRO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"you people are never satisfied i swear. like there's some magic goldilocks zone where it's just challenging enough, but not TOO challenging, that no one can actually specify. it's all so tiresome.
>>483870267>alternating capitalizationSeething redditor detected. No matter how much you whine you will never beat the game.
>>483870318I don't mind the bosses. After ER they are a cake walk. I just find some of the areas to be very depressing and unfun. Especially at the start of the game. I liked the atmosphere in DS1 and ER a lot more, overall.
>>483870335>waaaay easier>can't interrupt his attacks like you can for malenia>can't run away from him like you can for malenia>can't knock him down like you can for maleniaokay retard
For anyone that has played the dlc already, can you tell me which npc says this line in the trailer:"In that forsaken place, blood must spill. The blood of your fellows. The erdtree faithful"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZenOn7WUo&t=107s
>>483870254it's not my fault none of you can make a coherent point without spamming buzzwords. not a single anon has stated what exactly is missing from the finger ruins.
How would the world of ER look like if Bayle never did a fly-by shooting on Placidusax and he solidly remained Elden Lord, at the peak of his power?Would the average inhabitant of the Lands Between have it worse or better?
>>483870396Kek
>make Radahn a homosexual>litter the map with items called "Rada fruit"what did fromsoftware mean by this?
>>483870516i dont know
>>483870469that's my #1 reason i dont want to replay ds3>>483870516hornsent says it the first time you meet him
>>483869870>not a single one in hinterlandsi felt betrayed
>>483870516Hornsent.
>>483870516The Hornsent, he says it in that grace near Freya before the charm is broken
>>483870421The main consensus is that they did this a lot better in the DLC. It is more tight and focused, with most areas having way more things to explore. Caves, dungeons and catacombs are actually unique and cool and you find cool armor sets and weapons everywhere.
>>483870421sometimes a big area is just there to look cool and that's okay
>>483870159because it's some weird shotakon gay incest shit Fagazaki is obsessed with. He's been trying to push this shit since Gwyndolin.>>483870380cope, you brown zoomer meximutt.
>>483870454if you care about getting a challenge, you can easily see if the boss fight will challenging or not by how much damage you are doing to it in 1 hit
>>483870578Den why did you wepwy?
>>483869980Sekiro does something the souls games fail to do. Sekiro understands that the player improves and accepts that.Genny starts the game as an instant-loss condition boss, midgame he's a pretty difficult boss, and endgame he's a joke intro for a real boss.Genny doesn't gain a trillion new attacks and teleporting after images for the final fight - Fromsoft recognizes that you, the player, have improved and as such older challenges aren't as hard. They let you feel just how much stronger you've become as you master the game.Elden Ring has Fromsoft constantly try to one-up themselves with difficulty, and it's a real fucking shame. Dark Souls 3 DLC and Sekiro felt like the developers were hand-crafting an encounter to challenge the player and have them win, but in ER some fights it feels like you're fighting against the author's pet and they don't want you to ever beat it so everything gets tuned to insanity. Just compare something like Twin Demons from DS3 where the demons have a passive and active phase to make sure you don't get ganked from nowhere and have telegraphs with the P2 moveset changing depending on the kill order in P1 - to Twin Gargoyles in Elden Ring that just shit the bed completely. Radahn is the logical endpoint of this maxim - Fromsoft crafted a boss it doesn't want the players to beat and in response players figured out how to cheese it and just did that. From got angry at people getting good at fights like Malenia so they went "How about we have a 20+ hit segment with multiple invincibility frames and one opportunity max to hit him so those filthy players get fucked?"People cheesing bosses is a failure of game design, and ER's bosses have crumbled. From truly needs to fix their games. Get the Sekiro team on it.
>>483869870upper finger ares and lots of the bottom exist for lore and atmosphere and it's a good thing, I don't need bosses and new weapons every 10 steps
>>483870296they only do fire spam if you stay at rangethey do have downtime between their combosthey can be staggered easily unlike actual cunt enemies like the omen warriorsthey aren't "trash mobs" they are knights which has always been elite enemies in fromsoft games
>>483870454JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!>JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!>JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!>JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!>JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!>JUST GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAY THE GAME!
>>483869870Those areas being massive / desolate places is kind of the point. You're not meant to roam around there for hours. If the entire map is filled with shit to find, it is no longer special to find things. Same reason there isn't a secret item in every location in DS where you'd expect one.
>>483870454eh, people who care about how others play singleplayer games is a big red flag
>>483867680that takes a full second to cast and has a cooldown. You can't chain them together, try it.
>>483870712FUCKING WHEN
>>483870587thanks, i love how the actor pronounces it
>>483870648>Caves, dungeons and catacombs are actually uniqueWWaitWhat? I've been playing the dlc for like 20 hours, there's caves and catacombs and stuff? I thought it was just the big legacy dungeons
>>483870526>Calling a section of the map "empty" is not a coherent point and "empty" is a buzzword
>>483870876just wait until you meet igon, the voice acting is absolutely top tier
>>483870571you think Rada fruit is related to Radahn because... they both have "Rada" in the name?
>>483870901Yeah bro theres even like 3 mausoleums that hold NPC mini bosses
>>483870454they added the skibidiscadutree fragments because they can't revamp the armor or change the weapon system without fucking with pvp
>>483870526Loot? Enemy encounters that aren't just scattered around in random groups? A boss? Context?
>>483870742git gud
>Radahn does the big purple upwards slash into flying into meteors into after images into a ground 7 hit combo that ends with a massive arenawide AoE pillar of lightGenuinely how did this get past testing
>>483870901There are forges, a few spooky catacombs (all with their own twists and turns) and there are some caves, yes. Usually these are very different from the ones found in the base game.
>>483870901EXPLORE NIGGA DAMN
>>483867702My character did it because he's homophobic
>>483870648Yes, I do agree. Not having random boss #3000 in the forges but instead just a reward actually makes it better. But it's not enough.>>483870770The Jagged Peak being massive but having nothing on it, but instead being used as a build up for Bayle is good. Having massive areas with nothing on them for "lore" when it just ends up being explained on item descriptions anyway is stupid.>>483870827>You're not meant to roam around there for hours.Abyssal Woods literally forces you to not use Torrent and engage with stealth.
>>483870742Sure, they player gets better, but the powerups and skills you unlock make a huge difference as well.
>>483870648Anon I’m constantly getting fucking horns and bones and mushrooms and fucking useless cookbooks. I shouldn't be opening a chest and getting a goat horn. The jar dungeons are identical. This shit isn't unique.
>>483870957>top tier>over the top badly voiced screeching retard with a fake accentdid they just pull a dude off the street for this one character?
>>483870421did you explory any side dungeons in SotE? They are massive and interesting, much better than base game, and the world is constructed in a much better way. SotE is a massive improvement, and base game was already kino. A lot of the small dungeons were actually interesting with their own gimmicks, which complainers often don't admit/know
>>483870742DS1 is still my favorite because it is the only one that feels like it respects me wanting to play the game in the style I prefer.I can be a light rolling glass cannon guy. I can be a fat fucking havel monster and ACTUALLY poise through attacks like enemies. I can be a turbo mage. Every game after DS1 had dogshit options for poise tanking. I fucking hate 3 the most - it feels awful to me. >smack enemy with anything less than BKUGS, they poise through and ragdoll me>meanwhile me in full Lapps and biggest fuck off shield getting tossed like a straw bale of hay
>>483870275He didn't fuck Rellana gently and marry her and instead sulked in his room that he didn't clean.
>>483870983Every time I've explored places that look like they're gonna be a vave it's just a dead end...>>483871032I haven't seen any!>>483871040I'm trying!!!
>>483870679deal with your mental illness, basedjack posting faggot
>>483870947what is missing from the finger ruins?
>>483870467Pedophiles can't have opinions.
>>483870648Yeah more caves and catacombs in the main game shouldve been like this, they were actually enjoyable to go through instead of a chore for a useless ash
>>483870675nta but they probably should convey this to the players somehowi wish i knew that before checking every corner for stuff, it wasnt very riveting gameplay
what's the easiest/fastest way to get 500k on ng+7? i want to level up before the radahn fight
When do I get my indie elden ring inspired horror game trying to escape a jar factory you were abducted to be used in?
>>483868323Your inferiority complex is bussin
Please spoonfeed me who exactly do i help when leda decides to be a cunt and attack random people to get the best results out of it
PROTIP:Roll *INTO* the bosses more often. Feels like a lot of you retards are doing it wrong and dying to shit while constantly backpeddaling or only dodging backwards or to the side. Especially the bigger bosses where you're meant to get behind them and poke their ass until they finish (this is the miquella DLC, after all...).
get fucked, your author's pet is dead, miyazaki
>>483871136>>483871007
Thoughts on Florissax?
>>483866506 I'm >>483868005And yeah they definitely aren't showing up for me.
I am forever grateful to my lord Miquella for giving me the lone wolf spirit ashes. I will not play the DLC. I shall rule as Lord in the Age of Duskborn until Kind Miquella emerges from the land of shadow. I shall graciously abdicate my throne for the new Age of Compassion.
>>483871248depends what kinda stuff you want for your build
>>483871201Take your maxed out Eldebeast sword and go to the deathrite bird. Hit him with an arrow, and while he's falling to his death, run over and genocide the albinuriacs with your AoW.Sit at the grace and repeat.
positivesenvironment visualsenemy and boss visualsnew weapons/spellsgeneral creativity of art directionabout half of the open world areas are well made and fun to exploreare all sick and greatnegativesboss design somehow even more miserable and shitty than base game, every problem has been cranked up to 11tons of completely empty massive areasmindless copy paste of enemies from both the dlc and the base gameawful collectible hunt to even be able to fight the bossesstory is mid especially the ending which is terriblethey "fixed" the repetitiveness of the base game catacombs by now copy pasting 2 templates instead of 1. amazingvery easy to completely brick most npc questlines if you dont have your nose in a wiki the entire timesummons feel virtually essential for many bosseseven more useless crafting item bloat than base gamerewards for exploring are terrible (pointless cookbooks galore) unless you get the essential levelup collectibles (which are necessary but uninteresting)performance is significantly worse than the base game, the recommended specs are a complete joke and obviously not playtested
>>483867560ThisI don't understand why they don't just implement sekiro parry in souls
>>483871347She's mine now. Also weirdly cool with me drugging her.
>>483871118how does she mog her sisters so hard
>>483871248You're a grown ass adult make your own decisions
>>483871201The glitch with the Caelid dragon still worksKill dragon, RUN (don't TP) to the grace near the Fort, rest, repeat. I did it the other day so unless they patched it in 1.12.2 it should still work.
>>483871347excuse me, but did i hear that correctly? her name is "Forsex"?
>>483871268the easiest way to tell if someone only dodges backwards is if they complain about bosses becoming a flailing hitbox. those mindless morons never even consider to dodge in a direction to break the enemies combo.
>>483870454Holy shit, you're really having a meltie huh?
Best way to get to DLC ASAP?what early game summon should i use? Im good enough fighting mohg that i can last a long time and get him to about half HP in phase 2 with a +5 flail but im not good enough to be consistent enough to kill him on my own
>>483871248kill hornsent, he's a bitch. Defend Sir Ansbach.
>>483871248Option 1Attack Hornswiggly -> Get a shitty running damage talisman, progresses her quest to attack AnsBASED Option 2Attack Leda, get the best Ash of War in the game (it is beyond broken and will be nerfed)
>>483871129>basedjak po-ACCCK
>>483871447boss and ambiance music is comparatively better than base game
I unironically do want sekiro with ER level build & gear variation.>>483871268Yeah a lot of movesets are designed to actively punish backing away.
>>483871518dont mind if i DO!
>This area is huge because of the lore! It's okay!>The "lore" is explained in item descriptions anyway, like how it always isBravo
>>483869496yes but take a wild guess if you are able to use their attacks as the player character
>>483871648Sure fair enough. I don't really notice it though it all sounds like the same choir singing AAAAHHH EEE AHHHHHHH to me
>>483871248slaughter the mohgphile and h*rnsent
>>483870679I hate to say it, but unfortunately your soijak is spot on.
>>483871656Then go play Rise of Ronin.That game, much like Sekiro, is 95% memorization, 2% reflexes.
>>483871076Kys>>483871156This>>483871128I found almost all of them by myself. I'm one of those people who checks around every corner. No stone left unturned.>>483871676If you can't enjoy the (very few) quiet moments in Elden Ring, where you're just riding around looking at the beautiful landscape around you, you're an absolute third world shitter.
So is there nothing but the talisman in the finger fields? Kind of a disappointing area for how hueg it is.
Is there any upside to being Dex, aside from the obvious perfume shit?I feel like I'm missing out by not playing Arcane which would be able to use 90% of the weapons I'd use in dex, but they'd have strong bleeds on them as well.
https://clips.twitch.tv/ComfortableEagerHerringWutFace-zmFNYaUN1HmLQgZPHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA
>>483871535it's like people who are being chased down by dual spears or curved swords and they run backwards and then roll backwards. like yeah of course you got hit. they literally run and attack in a straight line and you're still in that line.
>>483871862yea, did you like it?
>>483867560>>483871459It's a prediction parry not a reaction parry, how is this difficult to understand, a parry grants shit loads of damage it's risk and reward
Will CEing a bunch of consumables get me banned
>>483868937Charge is hard to dodge
>>483870742Unfortunately, Sekiro doesn't allow a lot of freedom of approach and a lot of the combat arts and prosthetics end up feeling useless at first
>>483871878Should have leveled ADP
>>483871930It sure will bud, best get farmin'.
I agree that the DLC has some flaws and that some things could've been more fleshed out (some more cutscenes, for sure). But anyone acting like this DLC isn't very impressive is just a little faggot. Elden Ring is (especially with this DLC) far better than anything FromSoft has previously released. I haven't played Sekiro yet, but Elden Ring mogs all over games that came out these past years. DS1 and DS3 looks clownish in comparison. And I love those games.
>>483871875Dex is how you're supposed to play the game. Fighting with melee, and learning to dodge attacks.
>>483871875backhand blades with bloodflame incantation and base ash of war, thank me later
>>483871347She'd look better perpetually drugged and pregnant.
>>483871878Shockwaves.
>>483871930Yes anon pay no attention to the thousands of other people doing it
>>483871787>kysAmazing counter to identical dungeons and shitty rewards in the dlc supposedly making up for identical dungeons and shitty rewards in the base game.
>>483871930nah, just dont be connected when you mess with them
>>483871875The best perfume build is Faith too, so even that isn't a Dex upside.
>>483871676You can't seriously think that actually seeing and walking and experiencing a location is worse than reading a line saying "...in the finger ruins, where pillar-like fingers grow from the ground"THAT'S what people mean by "because of lore!" it's to experience said lore, as empty as it might be.
>>483872045You mean the shittiest thing about DS2? Glad they haven't learned
>>483871268>roll into Radahn>he does one of his AOE attacks and gibs youThanks!
>>483861656Pure Arc is a lot higher thanks to the Bloodfiend Arm>>483863421>>483863084Any other weapons? I see a lot more Str/Fth weapons
>>483871785i think i would much rather play Way of the Samurai 4
>>483871875Dex is just not good
>>483872003I like the open world of the DLC, love the exploration and open-ended nature of it. My only issue is including 3 giant empty areas and the general boss design.
>Several retards unironically defending the finger valleyHoly fuck I really hope they're getting paid
>>483871875yes you literally are missing out by not playing arcane with dex. Unless you're going for a samurai with slashing attacks who's going to roll spam like a sweaty, you're dumping.
>>483872016Strength claymore build is how you're supposed to play the game.>>483872059They are not identical at all. Sometimes they look a big similar (a forge is a forge) but they all play differently.
>Only reason Rada got popular was because of "Did you know gravity magic to horse">No Horse in DLCIronic, isn't it?
>>483872003>Elden Ring is (especially with this DLC) far better than anything FromSoft has previously released. >I haven't played Sekiro yetyeah no shit >>483872016if you think dodging and doing melee light attacks is how you're "supposed" to play elden ring then idk what to say. its definitely the most interactive and least braindead but its pathetically weak compared to everything else
>>483871787Amazing job in defending your argument. You're so smart and based.
>>483869248Hahaha play base game and enjoy the shrine of armana, please I implore you to play the base game so you can experience what we all experienced. Imagine being a dark souls fan and being hyped as fuck for a sequel and then we get that....
>>483872149What a wasted opportunity just make an even bigger hand enemy and give him a boss healthbar at least. cmon
>>483871347You think she developed that fetish for being fucked while asleep?
>>483871376Dunno man I feel like you should kill them all.
if they wanted finger ruins to be good just add lorelike etchings you find through the first finger ruin that details the story of a shaman girl who ran away to escape the persecution of her people, and in the second one she's ferverently obsessed with the Fingers
>>483872121Seriously how does fucking phase 2 work I only last 5 seconds
>>483872143The Hinterlands were fucking dogshit.
I went into Jori at 2 flasks left not knowing what the hell it was gonna be and killed him with about 10 HP on me, had I died there I would've just busted out the mimic lmao what the fuck was that.
>>483872121>hey guys, just a tip but there are actually a lot of boss attacks you're meant to roll into, rather than away from.>OH YEAH BUT WHAT IF I ROLL INTO ONE OF THE ATTACKS IM *NOT* SUPPOSED TO ROLL INTO? HUH WHAT ABOUT THAT RETARD HUHH??the american school system has truly failed this generation.
>>483871459They did, it’s called Lies of P, and it’s awesome.
>>483872154Jar dungeons are identical.
>>483872154retarded Tranny Ring shills really are brown or some form of swarth. That or assuredly gen z who never played DS1, DS2 or even Sekiro.
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>>483872125Lightning Bottle gets the best returns from 50 Dex/50 Faith. I run that, Flame Backhand Blades, and Messmer's Spear and they all work great with 50/50.
>>483871608But would i get ansBASED stuff if i beat leda's bitch ass in hornsent part or you get completely cucked out of it? From the info i could get hornsent vs leda is a cuckfest where you get cucked out of something whatever you do and you just pick your poison
>>483872149None of those guys and I was disappointed that there was no boss in the area, but I think it is fine for some areas to be more chill and serve as a more tranquil experience relying on visuals. Now THIS would have been awful. >>483872284
>>483871676some of the empty areas are just well crafted atmospheric set pieces, I enjoyed them for what they arebut yeah, it's kinda lame that there's no real incentive to explore them or invade or co op there this is a burden open world games will always struggle with
>>483871575There's an exploit outside of mohgwyn palace, next to a grace, where you hit a bird with a bow and arrow and make it run off the cliff for +10k rune, rest and repeat. The fastest way to get a dlc-ready character is that. You can even get a +10 weapon without killing faggit.
>>483871347This isn't how she looks in game
>>483871376Yes!!!
>>483872221>>483872154You can play with infinitepoise claymore heavy swings after you play the game properly.
>>483872284Yeah bro how dare people expect a new boss haha that'll be 40$
>>483872170Radahn was the horse.
>>483872453I know, but surely mods will fix her...
>>483869248Anon if you're a true DS2 virgin I beg of you to play prepatch DS2
>>483869479Uh are you fucking retarded? I only know because my build is int/dex, comet is absolutely mid as fuck now. Oh and they nerfed the FP tear, I forgot about that too. The new hotness is impenetrable thorns
>>483861656STR FTH is carrying my ass but maybe it's not good for PvP.
i think it's time to fight Messmer after alldid i miss something just by seeing my progress?
>>483872413TY anonAre the Perfume Bottles fun outside the AoW memes? I never see them discussed outside of it
>>483872130You mean Way of the Samurai 2, right?
>>483871019when you summon an npc and mimic he doesn't attack you that often and it's relatively easy to get lucky
>>483871875bolt of gransax
>>483872601no lol they suck
>>483872231If you genuinly can't understand the reason for big, open worlds having a few more "empty" areas, you're an absolute braindead nigger and there is no reason for me to reply to you.>>483872407I've played all except for Sekiro. I love all of the DS games and Lies of P was great too. That said, Elden Ring is miles ahead of these games. It's not even a contest. Elden Ring is a little more inconsistent, sure. But the sheer amount of content more than makes up for that. And you can skip most of the bad bosses and areas.
>>483871201the most efficient method that doesn't involve farming is to speedrun ng+ and clear only main bosses and snowfield
>>483871875lightning
>>483870780not true the only time they don't spam fireballs is if they're swinging at you and obviously they can be staggered even Radahn can be but not easily which was the complaint and they are absolutely trash mobs they're spammed all around the keep, elite knight mobs are always solo enemies in particular locations
>>483871878lmao
>>483872354>Americans!Man, sometimes I do wonder if the burgers don't have a point about how they live rent free in some people's heads.Anyway, the point is that ALL of Radahn's attacks have a potential to AOE. He has insane tracking, his swings have insane arcs and the light shit he leaves behind is also a factor. Then on top of all that, actually escaping his aoe, specifically the gravitational pull into gravitational wave thing he does, is fucking imposssible made worse if you roll into him."rolling into a boss" only works is the boss is operating in an at least somewhat sensible nature because while iframes are important yes, the way you orient your landing and finish of said iframes is just as important. Rolling into works because of what you said and also depending on left or right dodges swings coming from different directionsRadahn doesn't follow any of this fucking shit though. At least not in phase 2.
guys i'm at the twin moon boss... why are they so small
>>483861419>Help me, please... The red hood is come to eat our Dark Souls™!>Hand it over, that thing... Your Dark Soul™>Is this the blood... of the Dark Soul™?BRAVO MIYAZAKI
>>483872950>elite knight mobs are always solo enemies in particular locationskiln of the first flame
>>483873149The fact that the armor is even shaped like that proves that they aren't small at all.
>>483873426Imagine fucking summoning and letting somebody else play the game you paid 40 dollars for, for you. This is what boomers are bitching about with participation trophy shit. You LITERALLY didn't beat the game.
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>>483873696To the zoomer brain bringing down the boss' hp to 0 means he accomplished something in his pathetic life, even if his involvement was minimalAt least he can boast about it on social media and tell other people how cool he is for defeating this heckin epic hard boss
>>483873947Zoomer here. What I like most about these games is how you see yourself progress over-time. When I first started Elden Ring, I could not beat the Crucible Knight in Limgrave. Took me HOURS of beating my head against the wall to get him. But it fels so good to be able to kill him in the end. Often without getting hit at all. Now it's 2 years later and I can beat nearly all of the bosses comfortable. I like seeing myself progress like that. Slowly but surely.
>>483867908It's basically saying that the hornsent did the same shit as the Golden Orde in terms of persecuting others.
>>483872569spic
>>483872143I have the same issues with it except also that I think their setpiece design got worse. Stormveil and stuff like mines in the base game were way better than the equivalent content here. Even the hero graves feel rushed and they weren't that good in the base game to begin with, but in the DLC they're literally just series of rooms with imps around corners.
>>483872441i dont want to overlevel or get high weapon because i want to bully noobs with DLC weapons, just curious if there are any go to early game summons, i mean i could do the quest all the way to getting tiche. im thinking maybe rot dog, or lhutel would work tho, im open to suggestions
>>483872284There is one in the upper fingerfuck valley. You fight it in a really small room.
>>483870498He doesn't have waterfowl and only has one health bar, nigger, you just sound like a massive shitter
>>483873105>the last phase of the last boss is hard!...okay? and? doesn't negate my points at all, which is mainly that most people only backpedal and dodge backwards/to the side, and then complain online that the game is too hard, and it shows.
>>483871007>context?It's the craters from where both the elden beast and the mother of fingers appeared. I'm surprised they even bothered to put weird finger worms at all, I fully expected there to be nothing at all, as it should. It's a fucking crater
>>483873947>you die in 3-5 hits>boss dies in 30-50 hitsstill not sure on the exact numbers, but i'm feeling more and more certain this is the "intended" souls experience, solo. 10 to 1 ratio seems appropriate the more i think about it. this is roughly where the player gets to really experience the boss's moveset, but it also isn't too much of a fucking slog to actually win the fight.if whatever you were using breaks this then you didn't really beat the boss. if /erg/ wants some specific numbers, there ya go. adjust whatever build your using accordingly.
>>483873105Europoors are eternally mad because they need a loicense to get a non-weapon spork to fend off achmed who is currently rapekilling his wife and burgers don't.
>>483868024>If you don't like it, write your own shitThe slurper bumper sticker lmao
>>483875556Malenia is 33,251 hp with 2 hp bars combinedRadahn is 46134 hpNow, considering that Malenia gets easily staggered and has a very few AoE attacks, allowing you to heal most of the time without jumping to your throat, having only one attack that can lead to being instakilled, saying that Radahn is way easier is being completely delusional and makes me wonder if you're not just poisoning the well with shitty baits
>>483867217Way to out yourself as a retarded tourist lmao
>>483868064It's not like the Ringed City was the continuation of Dark Souls 3 and served as the definitive ending for it, retard
>>483869306>getting his flame or whatever is the turning pointIsn't it burning the tree instead?
>>483876761>Radahn is 46134 hpMeaningless number depending on the number of skibiditrees you have.Radahn is much sturdier, but all his attacks are simpler to evade, even his stupid double gravity smash in phase 2. When Malenia leaps in the air to waterfowl, it's over almost every time. That move is the sole reason why she's considered the most difficult boss of the entire game. I legit had less trouble fighting Radahn than Malenia.And before you're wondering, I used no ashes and no summons, no bleed, no shield poke bullshit.
>>483867595>INT was definitely weak in the base game and had no options at all.CARIANSOVEREIGNTY
How do I feel less gay using the White Mask? I just wanna pump Ghiza's Wheel's damage as much as I can.
I ended up having to summon for the Blackgaol Knight but I finally managed to beat him. I parried him like 4 times so it balances out right
>>483872149>too scared to reply directlyAs expectedYou lost :)
Faggot retard
All this Miquella art has me questioning my sexuality
>get the high priest robe>can let boc change it to the Finger Robe for free>it enhances finger sorceriesNice!
>>483861892sometimes I love this place. this is art.
>>483878825just pick armor that goes well with it. Not necessarily one that matches but that clashes well, u know?
>>483876289I agree, that's a good criteria.
>>483876761skibidi trees mean you have twice the damage when you're fighting radahn, so radahn is only like 2/3 the practical health of malenia.
>>483868431>this tired old shit