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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
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>Previous
>>484270325
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I have never once used any Dragonshield talisman
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Marika sex
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Did we really need to have THREE variants of Radahn's great swords?
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why wasnt there a rescue miquella from the dark side ending bros
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I need more combinations with this thong, pronto
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>>484285687
bull goat greaves
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>>484285627
>DLC final boss weapons are just TWO reskins of Radahn's swords with different ashes
>Both of them are worse than the base game versions
Genuinely what were they thinking?
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Is Marika actually aware of what's going on in the world around her while hanging up crucified? She switches the Grace to Godfrey so she seems to clearly be capable of telling who's who in real time outside the Erdtree.
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What are fun utility spells for invading if I have 28 free points.
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>>484285646
>Freyja
>Leda
>Dane
I like to think those 3 never cared about Miquella in the first place, instead just deciding to follow him to not have to accept that they are awful beings.
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>>484285718
Bringing this from last thread, really hope Godwyn gets some cool stuff in the sequel, hell maybe we could get something on the long spanning Lineage that Godrick comes from?
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>Radagon is Marika
>Literally see Marika transform into Radagon
>Her body is RIGHT THERE
LOREFAGS
EXPLAIN
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>dry-leaf arts
turns out the elden lord got some weak ass punches
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Where's the knight riding the boar at? I want his armor also do you guys know if you get to ride a boar too, that would be sick.
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Give me a tier list of all Talismans in the game and the ones you should always be using.
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>>484285925
Time is convoluted.
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>>484285646
Imagine molesting Leda
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>>484285432
Ranni is best girl of the Red Lineage
Melina is the best girl of the Butterfly Lineage
Frenzied Flame get Hyetta
How come Gold Lineage bros get no bitches? They gotta settle for Marika who is the town bike.
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>>484285820
>this up-jumped whelp truly believes to be following in His steps
I hate radahnfags so fucking much
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Miquella loved his sister.
The DLC is not canon.
Fixed.
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>>484286029
Imagine getting molested by Leda after losing to her in 1v1 combat.
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>>484285943
Yeah bro the boar is a ash of war of his weapon
He's behind midra you need to emote to open a secret path
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The QUINTESSENTIAL enemy of when is it my turn to attack
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>>484285848
that is genuinely and unironically the beauty of miquella being a mindrapist, none of that shit matters because your free will isn't relevant while you are swayed to his control
>>484285943
you do not get his boar, sadly. find the secret hole that takes you downstairs in the Moorth Ruins. follow the road across some rope bridges past a cathedral into the back section of the shadow keep. explore from there. first you go up very high, then you go down, very down, very far down, throughout and around the shadowkeep itself to get to him. you cant access this route from the normal main front entrance
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>The Tarnished dying over and over and respawning at lost sites of grace is totally a canon mechanic for reasons
Well then fags, why do you respawn at a grace after Miquella steals your heart?
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>>484286134
most rolling attacks with many weapons will lower your character model's profile enough for his attacks to sail harmlessly over your player model
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I got abducted into the manor
IF I go outside into the mountain, do I risk bricking nay quests or anything?
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Sucking on Miquella's divine nipples...
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Margit/Morgott is the hardest boss in elden ring with crazy combos and mix ups. No one believes this because you can just vig check him at level 1.
If Margit had the hp and damage of Miqdahn you would all weep.
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>radahn's neutral attacks include a reaction check with frame-perfect dodge timing that truecombos for huge damage
>and a delayed swipe timed specifically to catch frame-perfect rolls reacting to the reaction check
Who thought this would be fun?
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>>484286296
I'm straight so that faggot has no effect on me
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>>484286029
Does she ever take off her helm in-game?
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>>484286231
marika's grace is personally guiding you, and is the only entity that is completely immune to miquella's charm
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>>484286231
Miyazaki is not going to let you marry his waifu and get a Miquella ending.
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>Golden Epitath description literally quotes Miquella referring to Godwyin as "LORD brother"
R O B B E D
O
B
B
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>>484286231
AnsBRO slaps sense into you when you try to leave the arena
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Wait, Smithscript weapons are actually really fucking good if you use them as pure INT/FTH infused weapons?
What builds are you using these on?
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>>484273965
>Did she only see his pretty face and nothing else?
Of course not; she also likes his nice broad shoulders.
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can you actually roll through all these blue fires?
I gave up and two handed a shield and blocked it all as it felt too inconsistent rolling in any direction or I just couldn't see the way to take no damage
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>>484286178
Neat, thanks you anon.
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>>484286343
is it difficult bro?
are you feeling how difficult it is trying to defeat this DIFFICULT boss??
:)
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>>484286231
Grace is remnants of the Elden Ring. You are it's agent.
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>>484286343
The dev that loves blocking and hates rolling.
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>>484285687
armor of night and goldmask's rags
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>>484286428
I hope Elden Ring 2 gives GodwynSCHOLARS the fight they deserve.
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>>484286428
Adding a Godwyn resurrection plot would have screwed up the Those who Live in Death ending which presumes Godwyn is still a tumor.
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>be miqilla the faggot
>make yourself the ultimate tranny in an alternate realm
>meanwhile in reality he looks like this

what did they mean by this?
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So does Bayle even know who Igon is? I thought Bayle's wounds were from fighting Igon at first but they're from fighting Placentasnacks probably actually.
So would Bayle even know ir care who Igon is besides like someone who tried to fight him and got squashed instantly? Is that the point or like does Bayle recognize him?
No I havent read Moby Dick
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>>484285925
My theory is they can temporarily split into two bodies same way as miquella/st tranni.

>>484285824
On some basic level I suppose. By the way never understood why people believe she switches the grace. You still respawn at the grace while godfrey doesn't.
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>>484286607
S E X O
Now I need a fitting hand piece if I'm going with that chest hat matches the anklets.
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>>484286440
This makes a passable amount of sense and makes CHADsbach look even cooler, so I’ll just be incorporating that into my fanon, thank you.
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>>484286445
i really like the throwing blades as a torrent weapon exclusively.

they can hit flying enemies and especially stupid fucking dragon's heads with trivial ease. the ""short range"" people routinely criticize them for are only short in the context of a ranged weapon, which they are not. they are in fact a very long-ranged melee weapon, whose range can only be matched by a single melee attack in the entire game: heavy thrusting sword running r2
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Do skibidi blessings carry over in to NG+?
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>>484286503
Pretty sure you're supposed to jump them
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>>484286653
They could've worked around that in several ways. Get some wonky black knife key item to recarve the centipede into his new flesh. Make the resurrection a botched one. They're the fucking devs, they're free to write around the base game's ending especially one as fucking lame as that one.
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>>484286662
Seriously the fuck was that even about? Alright sure, he needs Mohg's body... and? Why would he willingly get kidnapped and charm mohg to spew blood all over his corpse until it grew?
It wasn't to reach the shadow realm as he was already cocooned, tf was that all about?
DLC Miquella feels so disconnected from base Miquella.
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>>484285929
Speak for yourself, I devastate
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>>484286735
Game mechanic. Destined Death is unleashed and people still respawn even though narratively they're supposed to perma-die. Canonically the Tarnished rolls Godfrey without dying.
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>>484286774
"Righteous Tarnished, that twink stole the Godwyn fight from you and now you have to wait until the sequel, get your ass back out there and kill him one on one."
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>>484286662
He doesn't look like that
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>beat Rellana at 5 skibidis without summons with backhand blades

Good enough for now but 90% of my deaths all happened in second phase. I just can't see the attacks landing with all those magic/fire trails and shit and I felt getting her staggered was fairly inconsistent, oh well
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>>484286503
Either jump or max range them
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Invading in the death blight basilisk catacombs is hilarious
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>>484286607
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If we fix Destined Death, does that allow Godwyn's corpse to finally die?
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>>484286964
Also because Godfrey is a Tarnished that sees the guidance of grace he SHOULD respawn like you do but doesn't because Destined Death is unsealed. You get to be special.
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>>484286996
yes he does
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>>484287035
No, I think that like his thig is different
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>>484286304
>bricking
no
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>>484287002
SOOOOO proud of you xister!!!! Here's your medal!!!
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Wait why the fuck didn't anyone just destroy godwyn's corpse? I get it, his body was alive and soul dead.. but why didn't someone just kill the body afterwords rather than fucking grafting it onto the erdtree and letting it spread?
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>>484287035
This is a plot hole. If Destined Death could kill Ranni's demigod body, there's no reason it shouldn't be able to kill Godwyn's cancer body.
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>>484286304
PLS help I am stuck in the manor and too afraid to walk out in case I brick something.
I want to do all the quests.
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>>484286503
You're supposed to jump them
All of his sweeping attacks strike fairly low, and you can even jump some of his smashing overheads
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>Fell curse bros got literally LITERALLY nothing
Fuck FUCK
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>>484287095
He doesnt
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>>484285687
>>484286607
altered blue silver mail armor too
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Yo these chinks be tweakin today frfr
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>>484286913
Nah, you dont.
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>>484285925
For some incomprehensible reason From is lazy and categorically refused to despawn corpses in this game when the script calls for them to disappear or reanimate.
I remember when this game first came out and some retards refused to believe that Hyetta was Irina revived by the Frenzied Flame for MONTHS despite that being blatantly laid out because “Hurr Durr but Irina’s body is still there.”
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>>484287201
You have to get to your first grace to leave, but just get to that grace and fast travel leave and you should be fine
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>>484286964
>Game mechanic
>literally has to suicide 7 times by drinking st trinna nectar for her to give up and finally speak
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>>484287259
Woah...a slutty albinauric...
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my god the abyssal woods are THE worst area from has ever made
>forced to traverse on-foot
>huge, sprawling, EMPTY area
>way too many paths lead directly to a dead end
>only noteworthy aspect is the reskinned bloodborne enemy
i STILL haven't fought midra because i kept walking around in circles because everywhere there's no discernable landmarks anywhere in the entire area
there might not be any poison swamps, but there IS something much worse than that in abundance:
nothing
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>>484287119
idunno, cant tell if it is.
>>484287196
Maybe its not a hole and he dies if we do one of the mending runes thats not the one that explicitly leaves the undead around
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>>484287192
Godwyn's corpse is effectively alike to a Metastatic cancer, by the time people realised it was dead he'd already spread throughout the roots of the erdtree, he's in too many locations for a coordinated extermination effort, especially with the shattering going on.

There's also the implication that by linking himself to the erdtree killing him may damage the erdtree itself, which pretty much no golden order adherent would want to do.
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>>484287002
You need to roll forward on Radahn P2. The light beams always spawn behind your character.
The fight rewards being as close up as possible.
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>>484287317
HYETTA IS IRINA????
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>>484287362
Anon, the game mechanic is that you can respawn even though Destined Death is unleashed when you fight Godfrey. DD is not supposed to be unleashed when you meet Trina.
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>>484286503
This boss was so infuriating
He isn't even hard but he kept dodging my pointblank UGS swings because he's ALWAYS leaning back
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>>484287094
>You get to be special.
From my understanding, this is for 2 reasons.
1: Constant mentions of a flame of ambition or a flame could imply that the PC Tarnished is literally some being of such sheer focus that even Marika has no control over (You), likely some sort of other outer god?
2: game mechanics

But if it's the latter, then one's rightful duty is to match Godfrey, your Lord, your Tarnished ancestor, your Godfather, your Echo, by going mighty weapon against mighty weapon then mighty buffed weapon against mighty buffed weapon then fists against fists then mighty fists against mighty fists.
No status concery, no AoW spam. Man against man, Tarnished against Tarnished. The Lord of Fracture against The Lord of The Moon/Frenzy.
His sheer presence would force the Tarnished to do the "My Lord" gesture on instinct and would make the Flame of Frenzy subside out of sheer fear.
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>>484287078
>l2 the game
>most of the buttons pressed in the webm arent l2
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>>484287287
>there are people that unironically take this content, souls pvp, seriously
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>>484287402
You got a worse sense of a direction than a woman lmao
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So is 138 the new 120 or what? Doing 60/80 vit/int at 138 is feeling way better than 60/60 at 120. Hosts seem to actually have scadoodles and I've managed to successfully co-op like 2 bosses today as opposed to 0 since launch.

I hate to abandon tradition (autism), but this feels pretty good.
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I did it. Mimic tear +6, weapon +9, RL 105 and the heaviest armor I could carry without fat rolling. Mohg is dead. I can finally explore the DLC.
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I fuckin love the dragon knight long axe.
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>>484286002
HP increasing talismans are the only ones that you should always be using if you arent a shitter, 2H talisman is another obvious one if you are 2 handing anything
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>>484287632
You also need to kill radahn but yay! I'm proud of you
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>>484287678
Its way better than those stupid twinaxes that's for sure. Good moveset and cool ash of war
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>>484285432
>irrelevant tranny character in the OP
lmao
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I wish combat was better. I wish combat was nioh 2
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anybody want to FIGHT CLUB?
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>>484287192
More like why can't the japs write a coherent plot
>Margit is morgott
>Godefroy is not Godfrey
>Marika is radagon
>Miquella is Trina is radahn
>Rykard isn't messmer
>Renalla isn't related to rellana
>Godefroy is not godrick
All of it is kingdom hearts-tier "just say x is y" and you COULD be right
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>>484287402
Nigga you got a compass AND a map
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>>484287736
May chaos take the world.
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>one
>two three
>four five
>six seven
>WAIT
>eight
>HOW DAIRE YOU PUNISH MY COMBO IT WAS STILL MY TURN REEE
>1, 2, 3 truecombo fuck you
I feel like I probably just shouldn't bother fighting this like a real boss.
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>>484287729
I'm just happy to have a str/fth lightning weapon.
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>>484287780
This post was fact checked by true Souls patriots as TRUE
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>>484287402
I wandered around those fuckers for like 45 minutes and killed every single lantern before finally giving up and asking /erg/ where the fuck Midra was.
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>Light of Miquella
>Multilayered Rings of Light
>Triple Rings of Light
>Radagon's Ring of Light
>Discus of Light
While I love Miquella (forma de god) I think a small (but powerful) Miquella is way more interesting. Just like how Ranni is a small doll but can one shot you and fight dragon, that's very cool.
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>>484287192
Who is left that is actually sane enough AND knows that Godwyn is tree cancer? Not to mention they would need to find a way into Deeproot Depths which isn't exactly easy to find
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>armors and weapons located towards the end
for what reason
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>>484287490
>DD is not supposed to be unleashed when you meet Trina
I don't believe it's strictly stated anywhere lorewise. On the other hand, to me it's implied you're either elden lord or at least very close to being one when you enter shadow realm.
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>>484287584
>constant mentions of a flame of ambition or a flame could imply that the PC Tarnished is literally some being of such sheer focus that even Marika has no control over (You), likely some sort of other outer god?
Flame of ambition is just Morgott's flowery way of saying that (You)'re an ambitious fucker who wants the Elden Throne out of selfish lust for power.
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>fight Rellana
>only take out a tenth of her health
>she goes right into her second phase moon and fire stance
Has this happen to anyone else?
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>>484287402
>These are the "people" that play fromsoft games in 2024
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>>484285848
>Freyja
Feels indebted to Miquella for saving her life, but is also primarily concerned with resurrecting Radahn and rediscovering “the oath of the Redmanes” after her head injury gave her amnesia about it.
>Dane
The Dryleaf Sect were Golden Order fundies that lost faith when the Shattering began and became unironic Self Improvement autists to weather bad times. He personally chooses to follow Mickey now because he’s tired of the MGTOW sigma grind.
>Leda
Oath-Sworn Knights are all desperately looking for a purpose in life. She found hers in worshipping the Miq-cock. May be yandere for him. Certainly she feels justified in killing anyone who she thinks “isn’t showing enough devotion to our lord and his grand plans”.
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i TOLD you guys to throw axes at people
now it's popular
you had your chance to do it without being shamed
it's joever
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>>484287678
Dragon chads ATE with this DLC
>2 Dragon forms with cool designs and powerful buffs that make builds hit harder than ever
>Knights lightning spear + Dragonbolt of Florissax and the Bayle spells as excellent additions to their classes
>Loredump on Dragon communion at last
>Awesome Dragon boss fight
>Themed weapons which hit hard
>Armor that boosts dragon cult allowing for some cool hybrid builds without the glass-canon of dragon form
Knight's lightning spear is my new Chaos Bed Vestiges, dragonchads whether ancient or modern, WE. FUCKING. WON.
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>most weapons are locked behind high stat requirements
>either start the game leveling vigor and do no damage
>or level your damage stat and be able to use cool gear and weapons but die in one hit by everything
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>>484287559
Don't get me started on coop
>Put sign down
>Most hosts die before you hit the arena
>Scad blessings may not work as you take 60% hp in 1 hit
>Boss moves around too much for the team to hit
Sote was definitely not designed with jolly coop in mind
I just gave up and gravity jaw'd it
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>>484285806
Lord staggers giant bosses extremely fast, and Light does great damage with alexander's shard and godfrey's icon.
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>>484286445
The throwing hammer is
The rest is laughably forgettable
>>484286789
>worse stagger
>worse recovery
>barely any poise while doing it
>quick falloff
The difference is, any other weapon has 100% damage along 100% of its range with a few exceptions that have a sweet spot like halberds.
I'd say a sacred or flame art greathammer is a force of destruction even at medium ranges and one of its greatest advantages is that it can throw from the RUNNING attack. The claws of night, though not infusable, are also fucking awesome.
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>every NPC that made it to the Radahn fight is fucking dead right after

I can see them dying against the gigachad and I know how Miyazaki treats his NPCs but it felt kinda awkward, I turned around ready to celebrate with my bros and BOOM CORPSES
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>>484288201
>he cares what other people are using
lmao
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How were Radahn and Miquella's spirits able to travel to the Scadu Lands after death? I thought the removal of the rune of death prevented that?
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>>484288201
FROM better not nerf my Smith weapons, I swear to god.
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>>484288392
Dunno
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>>484288326
>shitty cutscene
>bros are dead
>open map
>no npcs alive except st trina
>find her
>dead
a masterpiece of story telling miyazaki does it again
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>>484288326
Nah Ansbach is the only one who died (ritual suicide since he has no purpose), Thiollier is probably trying to have wet dream sleep with St Trina.
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>>484288392
who cares
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>>484288072
>Flame of ambition is just Morgott's flowery way of saying that (You)'re an ambitious fucker who wants the Elden Throne out of selfish lust for power.
Anon, this was a world created by two obtuse fucks called Michael Zaki and George the more she shat the more she drank Martin. In this particular instance I'm willing to believe that there's a legitimate reason. Also that reason is why the lore is hard to trace.
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>>484288405
None of them deserve to be nerfed aside from the bugged shield carrying rkr and statuses, and maybe the night claw ash of war having insane bleed
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>no 5th talisman slot
sorta irritated
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>>484288445
I want that bear helmet, where do you get it?
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>>484288536
you only have two ring fingers with room for two rings on each man. might as well unlock toe rings by this point and get an extra two slots
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>>484288210
Dragon stuff is great
All the dragon fights were poorly thought out
>Bayle just wastes your time by having most of his moves fly away or do a point blank flame so by the time you get to him you might not even hit him without a ranged option
Don't get me started on the double dragons constantly teleportibg back to the center after flying out of bounds
As a monster hunter/nioh2 fan this is all so embarrassing
I mean there's a reason every dragon in DeS was some level of static back then and as far as I'm concerned they still should be
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>>484288536
>he needs more
Back in my day we had to make do with 2 ring slots, and half the time you'd just have the Cling Ring on.
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>>484288457
back to reading item descriptions and watching vaati theories for you
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>>484287784
2/4
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>>484288749
rofap supremacy
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>imagine Sif made by nu-From
>instead of starting to limb after a certain amount of damage a cutscene starts
>black and red energy starts emerging from Sif's body
>"forgive me, my dearest master Artorias"
>Sif bites his right wounded leg and tears it from his body
>where the wound is, a huge clawed arm appears, made from red and black energy
>Sif's eyes glow red and his sword also gains a red glow and starts hovering over him
>"now...let us walsk the Abyss....together"
>new health bar: Sif, best friend of the Walker of the Chasm
>immediately lashes at you 8 times in a row with random delays between each hit
>each hit triggers an AoE
>all while his floating swords shoots homing energy flames at you
>starts howling and the entire arena gets hit by 20 red AoE lightning
>while you die after two hits, you hear "maybe i wasn't such a good boy after all" over fainted generic orchestra sounds and latin chants
Truest shit I ever read
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>>484286992
>that twink stole the Godwyn fight from you
Unironically I hate Miyazaki forever for this and wish to beat him until he is too physically and mentally disabled to ever write and fuck up another story again.
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>Radahn-Miquella fight is garbage, has impossible dodges, and some moves are retarded (gravity pull, attack that covers the whole arena)
>Umm, here's someone beating him with (shield). You are just a shitter.
Twitter is such a weird place. I should stick to just follow porn.
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>>484288464
>Solid week of nonstop complaining how the difficulty of Radahn's phase 2 is overkill
>They both have dialogue if they die that you're guaranteed to hear
>"hurrr they killed themselves"
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>>484281320
>Got the twin sister Spirit Summons on my DMC5 Nero / FF7 Sephiroth knockoff DEX characterinstead of the sword
>They cost more to summon than Tiche
>Worse than the Ghostflame soldiers with shields
I probably wouldn’t have used it on them in the long run but the WA seems like it’d be fun to mess with.
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>>484288851
godwyn is a retard and does more as a lifeless fish fucker than he ever did before
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Is there a goddammit flow chart for Leda? I want the maximum rewards & to side with Ansbro
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>>484288847
Fucking get, it read as it was the real shit 10/10 anon.
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JOIN DAMN YOU
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>>484288749
>Make do
Back in the day everyone wasn't leaping all over the place either, sote is elden ring trying to be something it isnt
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>>484289020
no, it's bugged currently and sensitive to weird changes. just dont fight putruscent knight or kill moore before doing all of the steps for leda and hornsent first. also you NEED to get the gourmet scorpion stew to hornsent
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Disparaging a message should cause its creator to lose 100 health.
The plague of useless/garbage messages everywhere in this game is unreal.
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>>484289107
I'm not home
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>>484288991
>godwyn is a retard and does more as a lifeless fish fucker than he ever did before
achually he and radahn are the only two demi-gods that did anything before shattering
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Imagine simping for a slag like Marika who cannot keep her legs closed.
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>>484288805
joining after this duel
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>>484289107
NIGGER I AM
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>>484289139
whats an example of a garbage message
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>>484289139
try fingers,
but hole
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>>484289107
XBOX SERIES right?
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>>484288847
Miyazaki in the thread
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>>484288573
>>484288573
by killing some red bear

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Interactive+Map?id=655014&code=mapD
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>>484289139
I agree with you but I think like that implementation would have problem cause some people would just disparage eveything
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Looked at DS3 weapon list and started crying

we have to go back bros
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>>484289107
3/4 one more spot
>>484289263
lolmao
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It's real simple, bros. Any deaths you take after unleashing DD are not canon. DD being active means nobody respawns, period. You canonically beat everything in the game before Maliketh, and then do the final boss rush in one try.
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>>484289128
Right now Leda wants to kill Hornsent & I don't know if I should support her or him. If I support hornsent will I still be able to do the Ansbro quest?
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3/4 JOIN JOIN JOIN
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>>484288847
Kek but sadly true and I’m sad I remembered the Prepare to Die servers are gone
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>>484289157

>Firstborn Demigod son
>Had a role in the initial war with the dragons
>Known for using lightning.

It's gonna be a fucking nameless king situation, isn't it?
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>>484289376
Marika's firstborn was Messmer, not Godwyn.
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>>484279969
Messmer had “a vision of fire, like his younger sister”.
Ranni has nothing to do with fire so she doesn’t fit, same reason it can’t be Malenia or, god forbid, “St Trina”.
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>>484289294
I saw that red mofo and promptly fucked off, I'll go back and go feral on his ass then, thanks.
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>>484289458
Proofs?
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>>484289376
nameless king? more like nameless KINO
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Is elden beast an assassin send by the will to kill marika and metyr?
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4/4
it's time.
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I am Elden Beast
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>>484289509
You'll be excited to know that From recently released a huge DLC called Shadow of the Erdtree where you can learn this.
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I love this incantation so fucking much bros
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>>484289167
What's wrong with trying to repopulate your tribe after genocide?
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>watch a pvp channel
>constant crying about dishonarable gankers
>gameplay is just 3 shitter friends pressing their big cool weapon arts over and over again while playing the game casually
>entire inventory is cheated max stacks of every item
oh mah gawd bruh das OD ong
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>>484289365
What specific items do you want?
What world state do you want for the following:
>Leda
>Ansbach
>Hornsent

I'm asking because you seem to be confused. Nearly all of these things are mutually exclusive and require a minimum of three playthroughs.
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>>484289520
Oh dont get me wrong Nameless king was fucking amazing, but I just have had so fucking much of this "WOWIE ZOWIE ELDEN RING IS THE NEXT CYCLE AFTER DARK SOULS 3! LE HECKIN PARALLELS!" shoved in my face by now it's starting to get annoying.

Calling it now, Elden Ring 2 will loredrop smth that confirms Elden Ring is the resulting cycle from the end of fire.
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>>484289540
Elden beast is an ass pull, sent by the bowels of miyazaki
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>>484289642
So no proofs then?
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>>484289675
I am a bit miffed that its range fucking disappears when cast by the player cause the Fire Knight's fire serpent just have infinite fucking range
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>>484289763
I accept your concession.
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I love this thing so much bros.
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>>484289715
Come back home to ChaseTheBro, anon. Nanaya's Torch awaits us.
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>>484289825
I am malenia, consort of miquella
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>>484289838
Can't wait for them to fix this whole fucking weapon class next patch.
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>>484289715
If they wanted a 1v1 they can use the arena like any person with a brain
>"NOOOOO WHY IS THE GAME MODE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO DISADVANTAGE ME DISADVANTAGING ME?!?!?!"
Jfc I invaded alot back in DS3, less so now since I like dueling alot more (none of my builds are really invasion built) but people who moan about Invasions being "unfair" are insufferable.
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>>484289838
I love this thing so much [shows a photo of you]
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best not-mimic ashes for Radahn?
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>>484289825
>>484289924
>unironically kino, would redeem the whole series for me
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tried playing magic n that but feels awful to just constantly roll and then squeeze out one spell only to do it again
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>>484289938
What's wrong with it?
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Do I need to kill Rykard to continue Diallos' quest?
I spoke to the pots until I exhausted dialogue and Diallos is repeating how he was an easy target.
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>>484289785
>Few things can snipe
>Nothing can be death'd
>NPCs don't hurt each other for shit
>>Every huge investment is ass
I wonder why give us the illusion of choice at that point
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>>484289938
What's wrong with it?
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>>484290074
They're bugged to deal less poise damage than thrusting swords.
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i like the falx, wish it wasn't a h*rnsent weapon
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>>484289313
>Actually have to plan builds around weapons instead of slapping an Ash of War on whatever weapon you want and getting whatever affinity you want
>Staves and Talismans had their own Weapon Arts and you could cast spells without getting poise broken some of the time
>Could buy everything you needed from Firelink Shrine instead of half of them needing you to scour an open world for crafting ingredients
>No open world; massive interconnected dungeons instead
>Covenants that made Invasions and PvP fun
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>>484290048
>Killing Malenia is required to access the DLC
Not only would it be extremely hard, but it would also be far too predictable that this would be the ending.
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>>484289838
oH YEAH? MAKE A GOOD FASHION SETUP WITH IT
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>>484289785
Same with Rellana's sword where the waves cover the entire arena when she uses it, but when you do it's 3 meters
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Imagine haha...Miquella and Malenia as lovers...hahaha...
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>>484290086
Go burn the Erdtree/kill Maliketh.
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>you can put Waves of Darkness on Messmer Soldier's Spear
This changes EVERYTHING
>Treespear moveset with Waves of Darkness
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At what point are we going to collectively acknowledge that we are still using a 15 year old camera/targeting system that is no long capable of handling the combat in these games? You fight half the boss monsters from inside their own character models
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So the Scadutree looks like cancerous shit because...? It's the shadow of the Erdtree, not its toilet
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2/4 waiting and 4/4 in game i think we can switch to 6?
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>>484286913
Are you sure you're not just spamming Palm Blast
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>>484286078
kino
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>>484290252
No
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>>484290308
Because it's the shadow of the erdtree
And we burned the erdtree
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Well?
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Im thinking Marika is more of a villain now. She didn't remove death to keep her loved ones alive, but to keep her enemies from dying so she could torture them for eternity.
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>>484290308
Because it's a dropped plot
>burn the thorns somewhere else
>don't care about the two trees that exists for some reason
>headcanon that burning the erdtree will change some shit
you rike
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I told Moore the option that wast "stay sad forever and cry forever and want to mill yourself"
So I'm guessing I'm getting his bad ending because fromsoft doesn't know jow to write anything better, right?
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>>484290414
SHABRIRIR GRAYPES ARE FOINE, MASSAH~
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>>484290158
I thought somebody pulled the numbers and they're poise break was at 23 (compared to 20 for straight swords and 26 for greatswords)

Are you saying that's not true?
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>>484289785
Isn’t that every incant with any amount of range at this point?
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a true soulsborne purist would be like me and have only played DS1 and elden ring and no other fromsoft game ever.
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Dryleafbros, how do we cope with our shit damage?
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>>484289675
QRD? on faith i exclusively use
>lightning spear
>frenzied burst
>pest threads
>discus of light (hardswap)
>glintstone breath (hardswap)
>rotten breath (hardswap)
i have every non-dlc incantation in the game (havent played fai build yet) and all of the other offensive incants i stuck in the chest
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>>484290414
Yes
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SWITCH TO 6 AFTER THIS MATCH
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>>484290570
Nta but I don't use Incantations so I'm not sure
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>playing duels
>emote at the beginning of the game
>enemy buffs while I taunt
>next game
>attack the enemy as soon as the round starts
>they emoted
>feel bad

I'm in a real dilemma.
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>>484290393
Miquella, Blade of Malenia
Malenia, Sheathe of Miquella
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>>484290204
Nobody predicted that Radahn would be the final boss.
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>>484290650
I throw a knife when they buff
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>>484290414
What do shabriri grapes taste like?
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>>484290681
That implies the Malenia we got in the base game has pegged him.
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>>484290559
>use Dane over Arts
>carry a shield
>sekiro tear flask
>guard counter talisman
Easy
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>>484290650
>>484290783
i allow one body buff and one weapon buff then i immediately attack
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i made a huge wild boar bbq with the fire perfume
i don't eat human meat but alexander would appreciate it i guess
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>>484290746
I predicted it
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>fight messmer
>all of his prancing twirling shit hits behind my left hand dueling shield's guard points
>have to roll slop phase 1
AIEEEEEEE
NOOOOOOOO
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Am I correct in assuming that INT is more viable as a "pure" build where you only go INT and FTH is more viable as a hybrid build, e.g. FTH/STR?

t. did my first playthrough as full INT, plan on going with a FTH build in my NG+ run
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If Leda is the Saber of ER, who is Shirou?
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1/6...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjryrG9zwtQ
>beat radahn on NG+7 day 2 after 5 attempts
>never seen this move
Miyazaki releasing this gay tranny kino during pride month is legendary.
I'm glad I've missed the majority of the lore implications simply because I'm too efficient and good at soulslike.

Can't wait for the new fantasy fromslop.

Also I'm here to remind you fags that if you hang around for pvp after finishing the game, you are unironically retarded.
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dunno if we got 6 tbqhfam
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>>484290950
You can do pure Fai, but apparently the only good bread and butter spell is catch flame
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>>484290746
We predicted the exact context and structure of the final boss we just gave fromsoft too much credit and mistakenly assumed they would provide closure to a major plot thread dangling from the main game but instead they memoryholed it and rehashed the donkey guy
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>>484290975
Get bent, nigger, and stay mad.
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>>484289719
Ah damn. Ansbrach is most important to me. What should my next step be?
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>>484290975
odd way to advertise your yt channel, but i'm not clicking anyway
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What if its the pot process that actually creates a Numen? That the whole "That race is seldom born" thing is because the pot process rarely works?
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>>484290950
You're correct. The vast majority of faith spells are borderline unusable when a boss is on your nuts. Meaning if you're going pure faith with no weapons you're using catch flame

A lot.
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How are the new holy damage incantations from the DLC? Stuff like the spiral eruptions or the weird sickles of light?
How are the new crucible incants?
And most importantly: how are the enw seals? do they compare to erdtree or godslayer for FTH builds?
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>>484290798
probably really sickly sweat and syrupy with no real distinct flavor. they say when someone gets cancer, one of the tell tale signs is that they start smelling sweet or something.
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>>484291126
What items do you want anon, I can't help you unless you tell me that first
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>>484282495
oops haha
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lets just do 4, theres always less issues with 4 players than with 6
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>>484290950
problem is that alot of faith spells have long clunky casting animations, so trying to play that as a pure spellcaster can be a pain in the ass. not impossible, but nowhere near as smooth or consistent as int
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ah fuck sorry i got called away i might be afk in the match right now
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>>484290252
Miquella abandoned her, die mad about it
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>>484290945
then you're a fuckin' nobody
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>>484290537
Honestly shocked they haven't nerfed the one incantation that can snipe seemingly everything in the game
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>Every character is ambiguous
>Rykard was respected by his men before losing himself to a snake.
>Godrick while a coward, grafted to be strong. His "army" has the best living conditions in the Lands Between, all things considered.
>Morgott goes full damage control mode, beating Tarnished, stopping coups (Radahn and Golden Lineage) while still protecting Godrick to not have things spiral out of control, seals 3 fingers entrance
>Marika gets a sad backstory, same as Messmer being a tragic character
Why did Miyazaki made sure that the twink was evil? And every action he did was evil?
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>>484291345
I'm vaatividya
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>>484290851
Maybe a weapon buff is fine MAYBE. If it's the ash of war of their weapon or something. Body buffs are always gay
Duels ain't invasions and they ain't boss fights, we're both doing this for fun. Most buffs either make the fight drag on longer or support some cheese strat that doesn't work without them.
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>>484289719
I thought you get all of their items after they participate in the battle royale.
For Thiollier and Ansbach it's after Radahn 2.
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I swear Radahn does follows on certain combos depending on if you try to punish them.
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>>484291071
That's a lot of words to say that you were wrong.
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In my headcanon, my tarnished told Ymir that he will never be a mother before bashing his skull in with my giant anvil hammer
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From where do you get these "bear claws"?
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>>484290812
I wonder how her unalloyed gold dildo would look like
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>>484290252
>>484290681
>miquella sacrificing everything not for the sake of retarded "gentle world" but to cure his sister
>upon defeat calls tarnished a monster who seeks fight and death for no reason or purpose
>states that the blood on your hands would truly match marika's
>was thy crown worth it after-all?
Instead we got some pedo-shit and fat ugly guy again, bravo Zaki.
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>>484291536
*follow ups
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>>484291529
Thioller and Ansbach dont even need to be summoned to get their gear.
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>points down
ok
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so 6 or 4
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>>484291614
From Red Bear is the nameless mausoleum on top of a plateau on scadu altus if you mean the literal bear claws.
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Why do people think Radagon was originally a shedded part of Marika now? It doesn't make sense as it states he was just a powerful cleric-warrior who led her armies who was called back because he had the ability to create Empyreans.
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>>484290527
Don't know where you're getting those but there's a new excel sheet available with all the poise numbers and Light Greatswords are below straight swords in poise damage. A LGS two handed r1 only deals something like 84 poise damage.
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>>484290102
the fire knight in the church district next to the jihadis can actually get knocked down by the explosions, it's pretty funny when enemies interact
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>>484291614
Western mausoleum that's reached from rauh basin by using a spiritspring there
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How is what Godrick does any worse than what you do? You use the armor and runes from peoplebyou kill, he uses the arms
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this boss was actually fun
felt like a souls boss
none of that gorillion strings like the rest of the DLC bosses
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I continue to flip flop on whether or not the messmer throw is good
>>484291751
4 going now
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So how are you supposed to dodge Radahn's clone attacks?
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>>484291668
i'll die mad about it
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>>484291770
Because of the statue in-game that says Radagon is Marika if you perform a specific spell in front of it. Also Marika literally turning into Radagon during the final fight.
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>>484291536
The trick is that his animations are janky. It looks like he has a long recovery left because his swords are jammed in the ground he's slowly heaving them up, but he's actually already 'recovered' and will just snap into position for the start of the next animation.

And yes bosses, all bosses, will read your inputs and have specific quick attacks meant to punish you from pressing buttons at the wrong time. So if you try to attack into Radahn's "recovery" after he's already passed the point where he can cancel it, he'll do either the triple hit everyone complains about or the quick hit that starts the long slow combo.
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Dearest Piquella...
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>>484291192
Holybros, is it over?
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This is whats left of his original body.
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>>484291668
Japs being Japs.
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>>484291756
Whoops, it is Rauh base like the other anon said, not scadu altus.
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>a fucking WOMAN pretending to be a cartoon character beat Radahn solo no cheese with a Greatsword.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsps6a7LXY
You fingerprint shitters should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.
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>>484291909
No idea, my framerate always janked when he did any of them. I just tried to dodge the real one at the end.
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>dryleaf arts
>dane's footwork
Literally what the hell is the difference?
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>>484291843
There's a difference between killing people in combat and capturing and dismembering them while they're defenseless.
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>>484291865
Simple but one of my favorites. Great theme too
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>>484291668
the worst part is we could have easily had this and the stupid consort Radahn. But for some reason Miyazaki just.. refused to acknowledge Malenia existed
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>>484291192
dryleaf seal is good for mid-level faith builds from 27 to 50 faith, with the flame knight and spirtaltree seals being a good backpack damage boosting options for their respective school of incantations like most of the other seals in the game

>>484292189
dane's footwork has 42% more kicking attacks in its moveset
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>>484292143
I beat him 2handing a cold Estoc. Did I beat the game anon-senpai?
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>>484292143
Men are significantly worse at picking out details that hint at the choreographed attack, yeah
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>>484291756
>>484291826
Danke
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Why is everyone really fucking massive or really small? Like Renalla is massive with a really small head and long arms and no one questions this?
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>>484291843
This post is stupid but I do actually think it's interesting that grafting is really similar to the hornsent jarring the shamans.
Marika's child has essentially re-created the very horrors that she fought against.
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>>484291192
Spiral is great. Sickles are alright
All of the new crucible incants are unfathomably shit.

Wings (can) do good damage but using it with a twinblade locks you in an animation with no hyper armor for 5 seconds
Aspect of the crucible thorns has a deadzone in nearly every direction besides a 30 degree cone and it's charged version does less damage than a single spin of tail.
Aspect of the Crucible Bloom is very VERY fucking bad. a 6.1 cast time spell that does shit damage at a single location with a hitbox so narrow that 3/4ths of the bolts will still miss a toppled enemy that's not Bayle. While also having no poise.

Ansbach blade is bugged and doesn't work correctly. The boss dragon only gives one ability per NG cycle and both are shit. We finally got warmth and it heals less than a warming stone. The tornado will disappear on pebble high terrain, Rotten Butterflies is pre-patch Scarlet Aeonia.
Divine Beast Feathers uses all of your FP and stamina to achieve nothing
Midra's Flame of Frenzy has so many downsides that it loops into being a worse Unendurable Frenzy
Rain of Fire is likely the only spell tied with Crucible Bloom for worst incantation in the game.
Watchful spirit needs an all in faith investment to tickle for more than 150 per ghost.

I haven't used enough of the other ones to form an opinion. My inital impressions of Wrath from Afar was that you better fucking hope it staggers given you're rooted in place for almost 5 seconds afterwards.

In short, most of the additions are terrible.
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>>484292189
They share almost every animation but Dane's opens its R1 and R2 chains with a kick and shuffles the rest of the combo a little around.
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>>484292189
More kicking which can potentially be better as there's a talisman and legwear that boost kick damage
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>>484292330
>cold
You didn't beat the game.
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>>484292426
But he has so much HP senpai, it seems logical to use % damage.
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>>484292143
>Foo-reya
>Dahn-oh
Do japs really?
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>>484291192
multilayered ring of light shreds, light of miquella is huge damage aoe from greatbow range. the spiral spells and the sunflower spell are more to annoy people in pvp
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>>484292143
Colossal weapons are without a doubt some of the best weapons against Radahn.

If you're a pure DEXfag, you're in for a rough fucking time if you aren't using status buildup.
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>>484292330
Yes.
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>>484292143
>Sorry, Radahn, I'm not even mad that fromsoft brought you back for fanservice anymore, i don't really hold a grudge against Miyazaki, it's just that... this Dragon form, is so peak.
>"Imaginary Technique: Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike."
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>>484292292
>>484292418
>>484292424
So Footwork is unironically better? I'll keep that in mind, thank you.
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>>484292615
Even status isn't all that good without cheese. It takes so many fucking hits to bleed him it's unbelievable. I think in the DLC only Bayle has higher resistances and Bayle is borderline immune.
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>>484291909
either run or spam roll depending on the attack
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edgelords won
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>>484291219
I don't know what items I might get.
I want to fight Leda at the end & ally with ansbach vs Radahn
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by far the most broken talisman in the game
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>>484292832
edge,
lord ahead
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>>484292143
Im not getting paid millions to mash my head against that wall for a dozen hours while not having fun so I got it over and done with using the mimic. Seriously, why are games these days designed explicitly around how fun it is to WATCH streamers play them instead of playing them yourself?
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>>484292367
she's alabaster lord coded
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None of you who killed Radahn beat the game
Elden Beast is the final boss, you only beat thw DLC not thw game
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>>484292412
That's all really good info, thanks, but
>Rotten Butterflies is pre-patch Scarlet Aeonia.
I dont know what that means. I only got into the game a week after launch and didnt get that spell until way later.
>missed Mesmer's flamesnake
This seems like an oversight. I know you cant chaincast it like enemies do but it seems to have a nice reach and good damage based on a cursory glance I could do with faith-knot tear.
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Every retard unironically calling it pedoshit needs to understand that "consort" is an invention of the EN release and they only ever use "lord" in JP, and even then "consort" only refers to the role of the ruling Elden Lord in relation to their God.
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>>484292913
that's the dota 2 effect
when they keep making the game harder and harder, after some point is becomes more fun to watch people play the game than actually playing the game, if you have a normal life and can't spend 12 hours a day playing it
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Please tell me armor is irrelevant so that I can proudly wear the Night Set.
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>>484288210
Dragon Communionfags definitely won the most with this DLC. Everyone else got jack shit.
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>>484293058
English is canon.
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>>484292832
That katana is sweet. I wish the ash was a little quicker though. Or had more range.
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>>484293075
armor is largely irrelevant
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>>484292895
I've never once even considered the Crimson Seed Talisman before the DLC, but holy shit it really ended up being the most useful somehow.
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>>484285925
Marika is a hermaphrodite.
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>>484292407
More like grandchild but I imagine she would be more than furious to know the shit he is doing.
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I was having a chill morning drive and then randomly thought of Radahn's undodgeable 1,2 slash into X slash and I started sweating and stressing out.
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Planning on doing a pure DEX run for the DLC, either for the Claws of Night or the firespark bottles.
Should I go with Warrior for best DEX start of with wretch to make use of as many bottles as possible with minimal investment?
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How do you deal with Radahn's gravity aoe attack? The one with all the swirling magic and shit? I beat him on NG but I never learned how to consistently deal with that move in particular.
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>>484293154
yeah, charging it is pretty slow, at least it got the double slash r2s
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>most of the new incantations are unusable shit

Is this true?
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>>484293080
Dragon Cult too, the form pretty much completed my build.
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>FTH has an insane variety of spells and a bunch of cool shit because its actually like 6 different things jampacked together in FTH
>But the vast majority of them are actually completely useless against bosses or extremely situational and hard to actually use either because of an absurdly long cast time or janky ass randomized hitboxes
>Magic has basically 3 spells and 10 variations fo each of them
>But basically all of them are usable in actual combat
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>>484286002
>base game
Damage talismans
>DLC
Damage negation talismans
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>>484293380
Start running away from him and jump just as he's about to use it
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No but seriously why is radahn's status resistance so fucking high? I can spend 5 minutes tangoing with him with a 120 bleed weapon and maybe see one trigger. I think if I play perfectly I can probably bleed him twice in his entire 50k healthbar. Why?
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>>484293380
do you mean the swirling rocks coming out of the ground after he does his big aoe suck? just run backwards and jump right before the rocks come out
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>>484292895
quite good but nah
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I got to Radahn. How bad is this gonna be?
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>>484286002
this:
>>484293476
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>>484292895
Unless you drain your FP by the mouthful, this enables you to use skills and FP items with no repercussions and saves the exploration aspect as well as some of the longer dungeons.
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>>484285925
radagon is a silver tear that is impersonating marika. those are the remains of the real marika. there was an entire quest chain about mimic tears going inside of people to become complete perfect beings and then replacing them, but it was cut.
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>>484293152
>G.R.R.M. writes the setting bible
>It gets mangled to pieces in the translation to JP so Miyazaki can read it
>Revises it during game development and cuts out only God knows how much of the original text
>Finally the mess is translated back into EN for release
Sort of.
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So the JP version apparently calls the Shamans mikos or shrine maidens.
Only women of that Shaman Village were being put into those jars going by the Japanese script.
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>>484293075
In PvE? Yeah. PvP? lmao.
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>>484293363
The handful of points don't matter at level 175+. I just used a save file copy of my Confessor and respec'd.
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>>484293527
You will start raging once you hit second phase
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>>484293380
You can dodge the pull in.
If you get pulled, immediately sprint backwards away from him and jump just before he brings his swords down, then keep sprinting a little when you land. You may still take a little damage just because of the uneven terrain messing with elevation but you'll escape most of it.
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>50 skibid fragments
>can't remember where they all are 100%
>have to keep fextra's map open every time I play a different character
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>>484293058
didn't we go over this with mohg already?
everyone knows what consort means, and miyazaki goes over the english script to make sure it's right
stop pretending like miyazaki would never ever put a gay character in a game
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>>484293527
why don't you fight him and find out
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>>484293527
fight him 20 times and post again
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>>484293527
Be sure to summon Ansback and especially Thiollier!
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>>484293363
just vagabond it
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>>484289125
>Back in the day everyone wasn't leaping all over the place either
They were leaping around as much as they possibly could.
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>>484286735
>>484286964
destined death is not connected to the player's respawn mechanic, canonically they are entirely different things. miyazaki said so in an interview.

grace isn't immortality, it's a rebirth system.
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>>484293182
This thing is seriously underrated, it's like equipping a license to make twice as many mistakes per fight. The +1 version is now my permanent 4th slot fill for invasions, because hardswapping to it is too hectic for me.
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>finish dlc
>want to go back in again on a new character and build
>have lost ALL interest in playing the base game
bros.......
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>>484289125
revisionism
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>>484293397
Incantations are shit except Pest Thread Spears and Knight’s Lightning Spear which is situationally better than their regular versions

For spells Impenetrable Thorns is actually broken and needs to be patched by FromSoftware
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>>484293512
I think I only managed to cold him like 3 times during my fight. One right before he reaches phase 2, another right at the end of the middle of his HP and a third one while he was nearing death, leaving a small but significant bit of hp left.
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>>484293482
>>484293516
>>484293657
Alright thanks, I would always eat shit in phase 2 when he pulled it out because of how little downtime there is between him doing the rock aoe, then the lightspeed anime attack that then leads into another rock aoe.
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>>484293527
Gameplay, writing, it's bad on all levels.
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>finally beat the DLC
>feel empty
What now? Can I get an honest opinion on Lies of P, is that a good game to get during the steam sale?
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>>484293397
yes
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>>484291742
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>>484285646
you do rescue him anon, by killing him. his death is his happy ending.
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>>484292895
Not really, no. It's great for exploring or for long invasions where you might want to drop an extra warming stone or two, but it won't help you very much in an actual fight. We also have craftable starlight shards now.
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>>484293039
>I don't know what that means
It has no hyper armor, an extremely long cast time, will never rot anything, and is very slow

I mostly stuck to all the bad spells. Anything not listed is at least useable as opposed to just actively hurting yourself..
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I could not see what the fuck alan was doing that whole round cause the visuals bugged out so he was always spewing fire
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>>484293397
>most
yeah probably
wrath from afar and heal from afar, multilayered ring of light, k***ht's lightning spear, pest spears, fire serpent are all good
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>>484293665
>didn't we go over this with mohg already?
>Cutscene literally shows Mohg coming out of his veins as blood
They were fucking, yeah sure.
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>Sword of Night is mid
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY ARE SO MANY DLC WEAPONS MID, I SPENT 18 HOURS GETTING HERE
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>pure kino
>followed up by pure and utter shit
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>>484293969
put him in a jar together with st trina, wait and he's back whole again
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>>484293527
Not that different from most ER bosses: infinite combos, delayed attacks, AoE spam and exaggerated damage.
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>>484292412
>Midra's Flame of Frenzy has so many downsides that it loops into being a worse Unendurable Frenzy
This is their greatest fuckup for me. All they had to do was make it like the eye of Sauron from frenzy village.
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I no longer have any idea where the fuck I'm going. I think I've completely broken the intended progression path. Fuck the giant fire golem things. I have no idea how I'm supposed to kill the one with the leg guards and I don't care (it better not drop something good or I might quit). I still have no idea how to get the the red area above the Cerulean Coast. There also seems to be effectively no story at all beyond "Kill Miquella" and the lore has gone full Zanzibart.
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I never noticed that Torrent has a little low-poly butthole before
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>>484293930
As someone who went into it with no expectations, I thought Lies of P was excellent and in various ways I enjoyed it more than ER. That said, be aware its extremely linear. If you're big on exploration and open-ended levels your opinion may differ.
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if a host cannot dodge waterfowl on his own if targetted by it, should he be allowed to get lucky and get carried by summoned players?
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>>484294115
If the fight was fun it would be kino, the aesthetics are great and putting down Radahn in a second mercy kill at his prime is satisfying narratively. The ending is lackluster and the fight sucks though.
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>>484293735
This applies as much today as it did then. It's why I prefer 20-80, where at worst you're dealing with 2 people spamming OP L2s and magic instead of 3.
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>>484294228
>intended
it's nonlinear, there are only 3 required bosses
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CURSE YOU, BAYLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>start game
>really hard, really fun
>get some scat fragments, not even really trying going directly from major boss to major boss
>oops go back to an older side boss i missed because i need something
>hilariously easy, it's a joke

i hate this fucking game.
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>>484293930
>Can I get an honest opinion on Lies of P
Lies of P is a great game. I dont know how much the sale is but i paid full price when it came out and i feel 100% satisfied with my purchase.

Its difficult though, so prepared for a steep learning curve.
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>>484294115
Yeah I had the same feelings. The NPC fight was really cool. Pulling out Radahn again for another spectacle fight full of horeshit AoE particle effects was really lame.
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>>484294356
Please don't swear
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>>484294191
I would have liked it if it was an area denial incantation like rain of fire or that primeval sorcery that no one uses, except it just builds up madness without even dealing damage.
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>>484293659
It's been out for 1 fucking week dude, how many times have you played it? unironically touch grass. Go for a walk or something.
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>>484294319
I really hope the scavenger aesthetic from Igon is what we get more of in the sequel, stepping down from the high fantasy for a bit.
Honestly my favorite NPC in the game, the design, the questline, the fucking voicelines, he's just awesome.
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How does that work? We do eat the heart, right? Or do we eat it whole and it doesn't get dissolved?
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What are the wackiest and craziest spells and weapons in this game
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Messmer chads, we fucking won
>pre DLC everyone shitting on his design, calling him mid, saying he would be irrelevant etc etc
>post DLC his lead-up and fight is the best in the DLC, mogs Shitquella in both design and gameplay, drops better Great Soul weapons literally a better final boss, only demigod Marika was afraid of, seduced Rellana with his BSC, revealed to be a more tragic and conflicted character than Miquella in his own fucking DLC
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>>484293818
>she didn't have 10+ characters set up with mohg beaten
smhing my head
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>>484294392
>Its difficult though, so prepared for a steep learning curve.
i started lies of p after beating the dlc a few days ago and ive killed like 3 or 4 bosses, its been really easy so far.
i think SotE difficulty just made every other souls game irrelevant in terms of difficulty.
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>gaol is pronounced the same as jail
>scadu is pronounced the same as shadow
Why does Miyazaki have such a fascination with these kinds of words
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I'm gonna fight Bayle with Dryleaf Arts.
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fun fc
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>>484294319
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>>484294527
there's a baby rattle that shoots out a wave of explosives
there's a bunch of musical instruments that just so happen to be the best pve weapons
also the best helmets in the game are flower vases
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>>484294571
ERsisters... I kneel...
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>>484294527
howl of shabriri
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>>484294684
Should I go Int, Fth, or arc if I want to expect wackiness
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This little nigga walked up to me and tried to start shit for no reason
Then flew away
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The idea for him was a Malenia lookalike (pre rot), does it fit?
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>>484293938
I ban him
I- I ban him
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>>484294757
the normal thing to do is 99 FTH 99 INT 99 ARC build
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>>484294580
Early game bosses got nerfed a bit.
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>>484293527
>I got to Radahn. How bad is this gonna be?
Use the best shield in the game if you're struggling.
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Oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck
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>>484294757
faith has the most fun and varied weapons and spells
arc is a good runner up, but is kind of a specialized buil and not good for a first playthrough
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>>484294779
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>>484294779
For him? Sex.
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>>484294909
Pretty
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>get summoned as a faith caster
>the host is an int caster
>the third guy is some arcane caster
Funniest Godfrey fight of my life, IMAGINE hating cooperative play
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>>484293930
Lies of P is one of those games I think about. It took me a long ass time to click with the combat but once I got it I got it.

Enemies aren't that hard starting out but it does have it's moments. But they're almost always reasonable. Nearly every single move in the game is telegraphed and telegraphed well and patterns of combos are extremely consistent.
If an enemy has a 5 hit combo. It will use that 5 hit combo. None of that "maybe it's a 3, maybe it's a 7, you don't know~!".

It was an extremely enjoyable game to learn for me and also has some of my most enjoyed NG+ experiences in a souslike since DaS2. As in there's actual reasons to loot shit and you also unlock more options.

I like it a lot. I love it.
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>>484294909
I have to say, that last NPC fight was very well done. Moore was the last to remain for me, and me and Ansbach were still alive. I felt so bad for the guy.
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Do shield ashes like Golden Parry and Carian Retaliation have the same frames on small and medium shields?
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>>484294779
Not really but it looks kinda creepy in a good way so like if thats what you were going for then thats good
If not uh
well sorry
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3/4 JOIN
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>>484294580
>i started lies of p after beating the dlc a few days ago and ive killed like 3 or 4 bosses
Itll pick up anon, dont you worry
>visions of thunder
also like the other guy said it might have been nerfed, i dont know, but the game was certainly brutal on release, specially in the latter half

Then again i say this as someone who hasnt played sekiro, so perhaps its just because i wasnt too used to the deflecting type of gameplay
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>>484295130
YES
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I have 29 strength. I can't level up further this is my build.
What's the best shield for me if I want to turtle my way through the dlc?
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>>484294509
You eat the heart. You may only choose one per playthrough.

We both know you want the one that shoots thunderbolts.
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>>484287559
I fought near a wall (where you land) for that reason, make it a bit easier to "control" where he was going and land more consistent hits
also it was a pain trying to find my dead body after dying
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>Malenia and Miquella initially introduced as tragic figures cursed by fate
>In the end you learn they actually just intentionally fuck everything up all the time everywhere they go
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>>484295283
stroking
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>>484293527
get shat on for a while, finally switch to a cheese build and kill him.
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>>484295361
hardship does not beget virtue
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>>484294909
I am level 150 and I have 15 scadu fragments. Let's see how this goes with a normal build (milady / claymore). You all scared the shit out of my by hyping up this fight. It better live up to it.
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>>484286343
This was the fight that made me give up and use the Verdigris shield and a bloody bloodfiend fork. His absolutely bullshit moveset combined with his like 400k HP was just too much.
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>>484295131
Honestly I'll take it. Malenia is rather creepy in the base game visually when you see her face and she makes my dick hard and heavy enough to bend titanium plates.
>>484294968
A-anon..!
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>>484295361
Cursed beings spread curses.
The demi-gods are all cursed, nothing good would have come from them.
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>>484293598
miyazaki can read english retard, he literally supervises the translations
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>>484285432
Let us pose the question what a DLC that was true to Miquella's character would look like.

(1/2)

First off, let's understand Miquella's background as the alchemical rebis child of Marika/Radagon, thus a convergence of the Anima and Animus. In terms of bloodline there are none who can equal his purity aside from Malenia. Why is this important? Because paired with his upbringing in the post-Radagon Golden Order whose goal was stability through erudition whereas Godfrey's was conquest through might he'd have the perfect combination of nature and nurture working to his advantage. Furthermore, given the Laws of Causality and Regression uncovered in the post-Radagon Golden Order Miquella would have the toolbox needed to both understand how the Land's Between present state came to be, along with an intrinsic understanding of the karmic repercussions of violating said laws: namely the abandonment of the Greater Will, and the desolation resulting from the transience of all Orders that fail to be in harmony with the Greater Will. Given his foremost motivation to cure his sister of her scarlet rot, Miquella understood repairing mankind's relationship with the Greater Will was necessary, and thus acquiesced to his other self Trina to assume a guise along with remedy the problem of the Frenzied Flame on behalf of the abandoned Merchants. He also sought to create his own Erdtree and bring with it all the people's the Golden Order had abandoned in it's quest for dominance. It is after the Haligtree Order was founded and Elphael was constructed that he devised a plan alongside his fellow Empyreans Ranni, Melina and even Marika to raise a Tarnished to lordship after their time fighting in the Badlands with Godfrey, becoming a warrior without parallel who's resolve could ensure their minds wouldn't fall apart and they could make the best use of the Rune of Death's absence. This is to understand why Miquella chose the Tarnished as his Lord.
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>Marika used the gate to ascend
>We don't know if her ascension was in the same manner of Miquella, going through the act of divesting herself from her physical body (nowhere it's explained the scene of her stealing the golden strands from a corpse, and in the scene it isn't implied that she had a lord there with her)
>But assuming that it is the same way, Radagon could've always been there with her if we take the Trina/Miquella situation as base
>Then we go through the same process Miquella did, of Marika divesting herself from her flesh (and Radagon along the way)
>She ascends and has a lord with her, let's assume Godfrey was there at the time
>Then Radagon now in a separate physical body wishes to enact the laws of regression going from what his icon says "thus did the hero aspires to be complete"
>That would explain also the Melina recollection of Marika's own words of "thou'rt yet to become me" directed at Radagon
>It would solve the problems I always had about Marika having to stop what she's doing, turn to Radagon, and then go fuck around fight in Caria, since at this time they would be in two separate bodies
>And to finish, if we continue in this expeculatory path, the time where Radagon finally got to be one with Marika again was when Elden Beast imprisoned her for shattering the Elden Ring, since Marika herself wouldn't be able to oppose Radagon anymore
>This makes them both whole again, but might be what Marika wished, since this makes her mortal again by being in a physical body and that makes her able to die and be free from godhood once the Tarnished shows up after freeing destined death brandishing the weapons Hewg crafted that are able to kill a god
I know it's borderline brain rot and I might've overlooked some happenings in the game, but I just wanted to throw this out there and be called a retard or spark a discussion.
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Shaman Village ;_;
This fucking place and bgm, all these feels...
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>>484295612
>>484295627
whoa nigga do you really expect me to read all that shit by you
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>>484295612
>>484295627
I will read. Thank you.
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>>484295605
>miyazaki can read english
Citation needed.
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3/4 limbo
my patience wanes
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Anons, ignoring the new IP Miyazaki said is in the works, what do you think the next fromsoft soulsborne game will be.

Right now since Elden Ring 2 is probably gonna take years, I'm calling either something with Bloodborne (if basedny get off their asses and let fromsoft cook) or a dark souls side story (smth like 2)
Ik this is like 1/2 years far flung but i can't wait to see what they put out next, really enjoyed the DLC.
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>>484294228
Same thing just happened to me too. I literally just made it to the new area and started exploring and I feel like I skipped 5 steps in the storyline
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So a Miquella and/or Malenia follower would unironically shank Hornsent, right?
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3/4 GET IN THE FC
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sry had to go since im a wagie :(
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>>484295832
sci-fi bloodborne
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>>484295663
The horn fags took them all and put them in jars, right? That's why Marika made the tree and Mesmer gave them the shoah.
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I killed a servant of rot east of Prospect Town in the DLC. Apparently he drops a cookbook or something. Am I locked out of the cookbook now?
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>>484295867
He is a scumbag who is a mopey little baby that didn't like the taste of the same vile medicine he gave to others.
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>>484295472
I beat him at 15, but I was level 200 because I want to match with normalfags. It's doable. Blessings matter more than level, anyway.
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>>484293525
>>484293982
it completely changes the game, you have infinite healing and ashes of war now. I slapped blood tax on my spear and between that and bestial vitality I barely even bother with estus anymore.
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>>484295627
I think its a matter of Marika wanting to break free of the GW and Radagon wanting to rule through it. Their disagreement represents a complete God's turmoil and could not be reconciled. I think they couldnt rejoin because one would "absorb" the other depending on their chosen path.

Plus I doubt Radagon had as many schemes as Marika did, she had like 8 contingency plans to break free of the GW.
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>>484295692
It's just unfortunate timing but the other guy namefagged and has (1/2) in his post. You should read his then read mine. :)

>>484295736
Cheers.
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it's joever
>>484295627
It's not a bad extrapolation by any means. Some of Marika's desires still elude me
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I would say how loving animals don't make you kind since Hitler had a dog, but this is 4chan so I'm not even going to bother posting
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I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella, and I believe boys should only kiss boys
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>>484295663
I will take my queen here after the normal ending to live in peace and harmony once more.
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80 FTH 906 AR
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>>484294410
am i wrong, though?
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CURSE YOU BAYLE
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>>484296071
Is it doable with a claymore / milady, you think? I'm certainly no pro at these games, but so far I've beaten the whole DLC + Malenia etc. with a claymore and no summons.
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>>484294228
>>484295849
You are fine, the ONLY thing you can miss before "Somewhere, Miquella's bussy has broken..." notification is getting some cough syrup from Moore that gives you an alternate ending to a quest line.

As long as you don't fight the Shadowkeep boss or burn the sealing tree, you can still do every single NPC quest.
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2/4
its OVER the fc is DONE
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>>484296034
Got it, ganking him with Leda.
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I haven’t played the game, but I keep hearing youtubers call it the king of cosmic horror. Is it really? Is it just giant monsters and gods and they use the term cosmic horror because it’s popular to claim something is? Because that always seems to be the case.
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>>484294681
kek
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>You know, Thollier, she's not gonna fuck you just because you donated to her channel, right? There's millions of simps just like you out there.
>"Damn, Tarnished, you're right *kills self*"
What did Miyazaki mean by this?
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>Reminder that the term 'Consort' insofar as it applies to Radahn is some faggot localizer. The literal translation from moonrunes was just 'Lord', which is why his remembrance is called 'Remembrance of a God and Lord'
Is this true? It doesn't seem true but I can't really disprove it cause I don't know japanese
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>>484294757
incantations
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>>484294356
you rike??
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>>484296442
You lose a very good ash of war though.
You can always kill him later.
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>>484296451
theres some space shit and magic is also space shit but king of cosmic horror is probably too much
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>>484296495
Y'll drink your egirl nectar from the floor or straight from the source?
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>>484296352
>is miquella real
LMFAO
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>>484296428
>cough syrup from Moore
Oh ok I got that already
>As long as you don't fight the Shadowkeep boss or burn the sealing tree,
Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep that mind
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>>484295849
>>484294228
that's intentional, you're supposed to feel confused, go talk to some NPC's

>>484294568
he's possibly the most tragic demigod in the entire game. what little is given about his past frames him as a genuinely good person, and his mission was not about genocide but to literally to be a scapegoat, a living scarecrow for the hornsent to hate and fear instead of marika.
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>>484296495
Except for the old man, every other Band of the Hawk member is a utter retard.
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>>484296392
>claymore
Yes, especially with a good AoW
>milady
Probably, but I didn't play enough with light greatsword to know how long the attack animations are

Having at least one short attack animation really helps against him because it'll let you rack up damage / stance damage in the middle of his attacks. I was able to hit him mid-combo with a 2H axe, 2H dueling shield, and 2H CGS (just barely with the CGS). He's just one giant knowledge check about basic game mechanics, don't let the VFX in phase 2 fool you.
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>>484296451
If anyone calls ER that, then they haven't even played Bloodborne.
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>>484296664
if she doesn't like you the flower snatches your head and drains all your blood if you try to reach for the nectar
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>>484295612
WHERE'S THE REST POST IT
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>>484296606
Yeah, but on this guy I'm playing I don't think I'll find much use for it. Unless you can somehow link it to being a skill a follower of either Empyrean Twin would know
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Messmer's spear is kinda shit
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So, 138 yea or nay?
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>>484296451
there are aliens
they have pretty uncanny designs
they manipulate humanity, and their motivation are pretty opaque to everyone involved
idk what the fuck else you want, if you want giant chtulu lovecraftian ripoffs with tentacle overdose, that's not exactly what you're going to get here.
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>>484296875
175 at least
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>>484296289
Ordovis' Greatsword is at like 886 at 60 FTH, I'm scared to go higher with it.
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>>484290650
>I taunt
>Enemy taunts back
>We then get into it. Most of these matches are pretty evenly matched as we’re both playing janky / cosplay builds but we have enough know-how of the game to not immediately dumpster the other player
Vs
>I taunt
>Enemy has a full meta build and applies one to two buffs
>I respond with Golden Vow
>9 times out of 10 they will Zerg rush me when they see me do this
>Recently, this means they get hit with Light of Miquella which, while still bugged to not work with Dryleaf Seal, still does a shit ton of damage
>Most are unaware of the follow-up holy pillars that strike them and allow me to get an Erdtree Dagger backstab in
These situations are the only ones where I’ll use the Point Down emote because these cunts deserve it
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>>484296289
That sword is cracked in general, I love it. My favorite collossal weapon.
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Beat Gaius without summons this time, he's not that bad but he is the poster child for annoying heal breaking

>charge is impossible to dodge unless you instantly go on the horse and run away for 5 seconds
>he does charge if you are ever not in close-range (sometimes he does it there anyway???)
>every attack he has deals full knockdown
>chains in close range like crazy

You end up facetanking half the time if you try to heal near him because he'll instantly pull out an attack and knock you down. Plenty of other bosses are similar but the difference is those don't have an attack where you are required to instantly jump on the horse and run away or get hit.
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>>484295832
I dont know, but I fully expect it to be a highly linear game. Possibly the most linear theyve ever made.

Elden Ring 2 will no doubt come eventually but in the meantime i think they probably will want to cool down with a much simpler, more streamlined game. Elden Ring no doubt pushed the devs to their limits and I expect that from has probably learnt alot from it

Personally, i want to see them double down on the horror aspect. Theyve always done a great job at creating unique and disturbing imagery, but because of the types of games these are you rarely ever feel much of the effects from it. Id love it if they made a game that really let the devs go wild and make some proper disturbing shit that can really shine

Honestly? I think from could make a really good survival-horror game. Would love to see their take on such a genre.
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>>484286343

*clap* USE *clap* A *clap* SHIELD *clap*
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>>484297051
hmmmmm nyo :3
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>>484296795
The ER aliens look more cosmic horror than the BB ones. But obviously the plot to BB is all about cosmic horror while ER just has a small dap of it.
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>>484295627
>nowhere it's explained the scene of her stealing the golden strands from a corpse
I would go as far as to say that's the moment Marika took her own Great Rune from the Elden Ring and became its vessel. Gate of Divinity must have been the crucible and at its center must've been the Elden Ring.
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>what's your scadu level
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>>484296352
>>484296674
giwmwr
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>>484296864
No? Its great for dex/faith. Are you just mashing the WA?
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>>484296512
the english is literally based off of the GRRM writings, it's about as canon as you can get.
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the bigger the weapon you use the smaller pee-pee you have
colossalfags...
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>>484295627
Miquella abandons his flesh to rid himself of the failings of his lineage, not because it was strictly required for the usage of the divine gate.
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>>484297250
dexfag cope lmao
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>>484295993
bump
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>>484296512
Further reminder the community is retarded and doesn't understand how From Soft writes their scripts for these games.
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>>484297250
not true i am exclusively a dex player and my wiener is microscopic
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>>484290250
>Rellana
>swordswoman who has trained with her weapons for gods know how long
>her special stance is a technique she had honed
>meanwhile you are a lowley imitator
>waaah why don't I do it like the boss

stupid Tarnished
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HOW THE FUCK DO I COUNTER BLINDSPOT FUCK FUCK FUCK FUC JK IA WANT TO FUCKING DIE
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>Get destroyed by a boss for 2 hours
>Drop "Didn't expect bloodstain... Seek skill" message afterwards
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>>484297051
why do you type like that?
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>>484297250
yeah my dick is tiny who cares I'm not gonna have sex anyway
anyway i'm caving malenia's head in with the biggest rock I can find
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>>484297250
I have a cute micropeen and I love the FKGS so that checks out
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>>484297451
Swift Slash.
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>>484297451
you need constant damage pool sources. magma spells, frenzyflame thrust etc
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>>484295993
probably
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>>484295950
Yes, they literally believed that the god-given purpose of the shamans was to be jar flesh and thus it was morally and spiritually correct to torture them, imprison them, and force them into the jars.
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Mimic Tear isn't helping me much with Radahn.
Just give me the AC6 DLC/sequel already
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>>484296451
elden ring does the thing where it's a lovecraftian world, but none of the characters comprehend it, so they describe ayylmao's and interdimensional fuckery with shit like "language of light spoken by the fingers", "celestial tears", "flower crucible" or "mother of ____"
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>>484297506
>>484297525
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>484297250
I have a fat hog and I use lightning bottle.
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>>484297250
Using 2 fireknight daggers right now, representative of the two massive white dicks im jerking off
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>>484297232
Nope. I am dex/fai. Just went back to FKGS and GSGS. MS is just so slow and deals such little damage. I was excited to use it because of the throw, but it's so damn weak. Took twice as long to kill anything while taking twice as long to hit with no maneuverability. It's probably good in PvP I guess.
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>>484297029
This, I'd want another shot at a horror game from them and it has to be a new original title, all of their sequels suck.
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>>484297573
blood estoc + fingerprint shield
you'll kill him on your first attempt
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>>484297365
>dexfags can't use heavy/colossal weapons
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>>484297451
Just turn around lmao
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>>484296451
not really but kinda
there's not much horror it's very much just fantasy, but the gods are all extradimensional ayylmaos or literal stars or moons and stuff. But that's really a small part of the game
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>>484297726
Dark Souls 3 didnt suck, contrarians dont @ me
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>>484297346
How does the love/Trina being discarded play into that? Because that feels like it was Miquella's whole character being thrown away. The whole reason people trusted him to enact a new age where even those who cannot be saved wouldn't be ashamed of existing anymore.
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>commander niall
Did they change his AI? I swear he used to be so passive. Now he’s gang raping me with his cronies.
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>create SotC sword that even involves a mini sidequest
>create a whole SotC inspired area
>but no SotC poncho set to go with it
Incredibly disappointing
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>>484297116
eh bloodborne intentionally red herrings the player into thinking its a werewolf game, and frames the ayylmaos you kill as half-breeds and relatively low-scale. genuine aliens like ebrietas or moon presence are incredibly rare canonically, and the more powerful ones like Oedon can't even be comprehended.
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>>484296875
Beat it at 138 and getting constant summons in DLC. I see no reason to level unless you never wanna matchmake in the base game again.
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>>484292832
I wanted to like this weapon so bad but it just feels so underwhelming.
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>>484297451
You don't
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What level for FC/COOP/Arena/Invasions?
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>>484294779
No.
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>>484296562
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>>484297959
Ebrietas is also a half-breed and not a real ayy thoughever
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I think, we're the bad guys, and Melina tricked us. game was rigged from the start
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>>484297932
>I'm gonna create a world without suffering
>Just give me your free will lol
Pretty much the path of tyrants
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>>484286428
it doesn't specify who miquella was talking about anon, miyazaki red herring us on shit we don't even know about is the exact dick move he would do.

remember: there is a mohg warrior at the radahn festival.
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>>484298143
shut the fuck up Miquella
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>>484297116
Moon Presence looks like an incoherent monstrosity and the only thing that comes close in ER to it is Metyr, but moreso of her being a weird finger thing than being something incomprehensible
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What the fuck did Ranni kill? That's not the 2 fingers we meet, right?
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>>484297932
Its a classic "road to hell is paved with good intentions" story. Miquella ababdoned his best qualities because he intended to rule as a good God, but those qualities are what made him good.
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>>484297573
If you want an easy way to beat Radahn with just mimic tear :

1. Go grab the Bloodfiend's Arm, make it Bleed infusion, level it up to +25
2. Respec your shit so you have 55 Vigor, 45 Strength, 34 Endurance and 70 Arc (if you have any leftover points feel free to stuff them into Vig
3) Throw on the Gold Braid, Great Dragonshield Talisman, Great Jar Arsenal and any 3rd slot talisman you like (I recommend the two handed sword talisman)
4) Turn all your flasks into HP flasks (you won't be needed FP at all)
5) Put on the heaviest armor you can wear while still medrolling
6) Two-hand your Blood Bloodfiend's Arm

You are now ready to fuck Radahn's mouth. Walk into the arena and wait to see if he divebombs you. If he does a slow walk, summon Mimic immediately. If he divebombs, roll and summon Mimic immediately, then roll away and chug.

Now all you have to do is mash R2 on Radahn. I'm not joking. Do not hold them, you don't need charge attacks. Just tap R2.

The Bloodfiend Arm will proc blood loss on 2 hits. You basically just need to dodge and hit him about 10 times in total to win the fight. Often your mimic will get in the hits needed for you. When he does the big fuck you meteor attack I just ran away as far as I could and then held R1 down to block with my weapon and at that vig/absorbtion you will tank it with about 25% hp left.

It still took me a few tries but anyone can use this to kill him pretty easy.
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>>484297932
Trina is his self love
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>>484292832
Holy kino
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>>484295612
Let us pose the question what a DLC that was true to Miquella's character would look like.

(2/3)

Thematically the Tarnished is complementary to Miquella, in that while Miquella represents absolute purity as a Rebis, the Tarnished represents the impurity, the unfit, the hero who through will alone triumphs over adversaries many times greater in strength and intellect. They are referred to as Tarnished as an immigrant to a distant land would referred to as Outsider, unfit to stand among the people much less stand beside them and fight the battles their battles in the Land of the Chosen. Or a person who has lost honor (or grace) and must fight to earn it back. Yet there is a reason the Greater Will (God) granted them such a fate. For it is in struggle the Tarnished has no judgment of all those in creation, and regards all as equal during their ascent; thus allowing them the greatest strength through fellowship and through acquiring the skills and tools of all people who have walked the Land of the Chosen before them. Their strength is as a mirror to Miquella's kindness, shaped by all peoples in the Land of the Chosen and overcoming all their trials. Thus, ironically, making them the only one that is fit to be his Lord. A DLC with a Miquellan focus would be one that focuses on their relationship: as one is incomplete without the other. One is heroic resolve that knows no prejudice in the face of it's goals, the other is kindness that grants the renewal the hero so depends (grace). The marriage of which is the means of reconvening with the Greater Will.
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>>484297932
St. Trina didn't want him to become a god because she knows it would be bad for him personally, and she is very strictly anti-anything that would be negative for Miquella. It would be such a shit experience that she would rather you kill him and put him to rest instead.
Obviously Miquella is going to abandon the side of him that wants to stop him from becoming a god.
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>>484295627
why couldn't Ranni just "abandon her flesh" as easily as Miquella did instead of needing the contrived black knives plot?
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>>484297921
This.

I would impale millions for a chance to give Karla forehead kisses
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Why the FUCK is the random ancient dragon before Bayle way harder than him?
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Holy shit this was piss easy compared to the gay version. You guys remember how Radahn used to be the wall the people got stuck on? Good times…
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>>484298461
he got nerfed shortly after release
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>>484296790
I'm getting absolutely destroyed by him so far, but I'm having fun. Have gotten close to second phase a few times. Mostly having trouble with his many slashes. No idea when he's doing which, so I'm just rolling around like an absolute fool.
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Okay, so why the FUCK did they not include a Chalice Dungeon like system? they clearly have all the groundwork with the constant swarm of Catacombs. Maybe put some favorite weapons in there with a weird scaling attached like Arcane greathammers or Int greatswords not named Darkmoon or something.

Fuck's sake dude, Chalice dungeons could be as hard or as easy as you wanted and let you test out builds of any stripe.
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>>484298298
It's her two fingers.
Being a Empyrean means getting a overseer.
Miquella and Melenia should have had one themselves, but they are probably dead.
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>>484298449
it has 400,444 hp on NG+7 lol
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>>484286905
cut crone dialogue hints to the mohg shit
>within the fog, a gaping hole. beyond the fog, one cursed by blood
mohg was fucking around outside of the lands between even in the cut content
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>>484298461
I beat the old launch Radahn in 7 or so tries. New one has been holding me hostage for hours
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>>484298117
Ebrietas is real, just abandoned by the bigger ayys. Literally Metyr.
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>>484298298
The Empyreans all get their own 2 fingers that guides them to follow the greater will, Ranni didn't like hers so she killed them
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>Miquella's base game statues have fucked up hands
>Miquella's body was in the cocoon, got kidnapped by Mohg, ended up corrupting his body
>None of this matters, since his real (real) body is actually in the Land of Shadows
huh
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>>484298014
>fc
whatever it scales but if you come in low you're gonna have a bad time
>coop
almost all levels
>arena
spare yourself
invasions
70-200
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>>484298314
No, I get that. I mean how does that link with the "failings of his lineage". The love thing seems exclusive to Miquella and doesn't have to do with his lineage at all.
It's why I think it's his biggest mistake as stated by that random phantom in front of the love cross.
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MOHG SHACKLE WORKS ON RADAHN

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
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>>484298449
Because you have the IQ of a baked potato. You can ride out of his arena and his AI will rubberband him back to his starting point but his HP doesn't reset.

You can literally walk in, hurl a spell/arrow/object at him until he gets close and then ride away on Torrent. Easy cheesy Japanesy
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>>484298531
bloodborne port on pc would be so fucking kino. imagine doing hacked chalice dungeons with giga loot but no stupid nigger modifiers and a fair difficulty....
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>>484298461
OG Radahn was heavily nerfed (then buffed again because they overdid it), he was fucking hard
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Without adding extra using CE, how many skibidi's can you get before Rellana?
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>>484298654
lolwut
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Do people with killing all fire knights?
They feels so boring to fight unlike the crucible knights.
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>>484298687
rellana is optional, so all of them
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>>484298461
>phase 2
>nnnnnnnNNNNNNNNNNNNEWWW*explosion*
>-you died-
yeah he used to have better tracking lol

>>484298654
large if correct
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>>484298527
>>484298676
No he didn't. Only some broken hitboxes. Stop repeating this absolute nonsense. People have proven so many times that this is fake. People going as far as trying day 1 Elden Ring without updating to see if it was much harder. It wasn't. Everyone was just new to the game and underleveled.
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>>484298545
>>484298591
I see. Thanks lads.
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>>484298419
Trina x Miquella should have been endgame
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>>484298729
Well fire knights respawn they aren;t minibosses
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>>484298687
35 or so, enough for skibidi level 15/6
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>>484298654
You didn't beat Radahn
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>>484298461
I hank my hat on me beating Radahn pre patch. That was epic, and Im not that good lol
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>>484298461
You're using post Rennala shit. Radahn is and always was hard because people were dogshit at the game with 0 vigor and +0 weapons.
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>>484294779
Just use Millicent's sliders.
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>>484298674
Bloodborne on pc would just be everyone CEing the best gems (which is already a thing on playstation with save wizard) and nobody would actually play them
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>summoned for bayle
>using messmer's spear
>400 damage per hit
>host dies instantly
>summoned again
>now doing 1100 damage per hit
>win
EXPLORE YOU FUCKS
>>484298649
It has pretty great scaling on whatever but it prefers dex
Wing Stance is obviously the first pic because that's the only weapon that has it
I also like Savage Lion's Claw for the surprise frontflips and and both Fire Knight ones are great too
It's very receptive to a variety of builds
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>>484298674
>Pcheater immediately thinks about Pcheating
Your filthy kind doesn't deserve to play Miyazaki's Magnum Opus
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>>484298545
Pretty sure their Two Fingers are on top of their Divine Towers. Ranni's Divine Tower only has her body on top.
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>>484298589
Ebrietas is the same deal as Rom but created thousands of years earlier by the pthumerians
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>>484298674
Chalice dungeons were literally my favorite mechanic. Sure, it got a bit samey, but I always felt like a spelunker and it kept it fresh. to me, at least.
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>>484298627
He might not have realized how important it was to his being, he still presents himself as a God of compassion but we know he doesnt have it. So he may have deluded himself, blinded by his goal. As for why, I think he wanted to cut out anything that would ruin the plan, he had to come from nothing with no trace of Marika to break clean from her legacy. Its why he locked Trina in a deep dark pit instead of giving her any mercy.
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>>484298863
It's strange to see a bunch of flower cancer, abomination babies having grace. Does Marika have no standards?
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>>484298420
Do we even know what happened with Miquella's two fingers? Maybe the two fingers situation being different from Ranni plays into that
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>>484298674
>but no stupid nigger modifiers and a fair difficulty....
you disgust me fromsoft please never port bloodborne.
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>>484298298
>Ranni needs a special god-slaying weapon forged in secret by an ancient society of Greater Will-hating occult schizos to kill her Two Fingers
>I just stroll up to Metyr and kill it with a wooden club
EXPLAIN YOURSELF MIYAZAKI
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>>484298748
How? I don't think I've seen any way around her.
>>484298815
Does that include approaching the shadow keep or nah?
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>>484298952
I already 100% bloodborne, just saying how it is. Youtuber videos will have most normies using the same saw cleaver build and tryhards will CE in the best gems so they can have fun 2-3 shotting each other, spamming beast roar, and raping clueless pvers.
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>>484298674
Why is /erg/ filled with cheaters lmao you guys are such cancer
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>>484298674
If you cant beat the Cum dungeon you are a shitter
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>>484299110
You didn't beat Metyr
She ran away
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>>484299110
>Femdom Ranni
mmmmmmm
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>>484298654
>>484298756
>>484298816
This doesn't work. Literally the first thing I tried.

But it DOES work on the spiritspring rock piles for some reason. I never went hunting to find the actual pile of rock. Use the shackle in front of the "ghost pile" and it just unlocks for free.
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>>484299110
Hewg
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>>484299162
>How? I don't think I've seen any way around her.
you can go in the poison swamp below thiollier and there's a spiritspring up under fort of reprimand
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>>484299204
neat, it works in catacombs to move pillars too very helpful, also hidden walls.
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>>484294594
>why do fantasy authors have a fascination with archaic language
it is a mystery!
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>>484299209
Hewhewhewhewhewhewhewg
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>>484299110
Bro your +25 wooden club distorts time by existing and is capable of killing gods.
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I think I just killed Wolverine
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>>484298461
Even Malenia is sluggish babycore
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>>484298117
eh the ayylmaos are implied to only be able to reproduce via humans, hence why oedon mass impregnates women like a celestial rapist. some of those offspring, like ebrietas, are genuine 'great ones'

even then, going by 'pureblood' ayylmao standards, the only one that really can be confirmed 100% to be a pureblood is the eyeball monstrosity. moon presence has a vague history and could be an intentionally birthed half-breed, and kos has a human face.
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>>484296103
it doesnt do anything in a boss battle
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>>484299209
>>484299363
My club was only +24 and thus incapable of killing gods.
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>>484294594
ye olde englishe feele
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>>484286653
Godwyn's body could still be a tumour while his soul is resurrected through the solar eclipse ritual.
Just put his body in Mohg's body.
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>>484298952
>Magnum Opus
>30 fps
>if it even manages that
Consoles were a mistake
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>>484295612
>devised a plan alongside his fellow Empyreans to raise a tarnished to lordship...this is to understand why Miquella chose the Tarnished as his Lord
I'll agree with whatever point you make now. Miquella is the ultimate groomer and I'll die on this hill.
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>>484299529
It honestly doesn't feel that bad but sony is allergic to money so we'll never get it on pc.
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>>484299267
What the fuck, nice. Thank you!
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>>484299363
Since +25 weapons gain this property from ancient dragon stones, are ancient dragons just innately capable of killing gods whenever they want to?
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Dual wielding frost scavenger blades for a dex/int with raptor mist, good idea or no?
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>>484286428
>>484299494
Fucking retards wanting meaningless fan service instead of a coherent plot need to leave and never come back
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>>484299162
>Does that include approaching the Shadow Keep
No, it includes using the secret backdoor into and beyond it.
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friendship ended with dryleaf arts, pata is my new softswap best friend.
>>484299447
damn, true.
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>>484299529
>PCtroon cares only about about performance
Yikes
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>>484299642
>meaningless fan service
bro
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>>484299586
>sony is allergic to money
they are keeping it as a trump card, its genuinely the only snoy game people cared about for 2 console generations
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>>484299697
Oh right, I completely forgot about the Moorth ruins
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>>484299642
Now this is peak contrarianism.
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MIYAZAKI
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>>484286653
I don't think anybody would care, because most people agree the mending rune endings are shit, aside from Goldmaskfags, I guess.
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>>484299702
How is Messmers spear
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>>484286653
not necessarily you could "give Fia your warmth" and take the "baby" and THEN resurrect Godwyn OR have a boss fight with a giant fish that turns into a fucken dark souls artorias like boss in phase 2 Godwyn the First of the Dead (2, shout out to my boy Nito)

I realized Gwyn has some similarities to Marika while touching grace earlier. both did something to the very nature of life itself, both made mistakes but differently.
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>>484299849
goes hard
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The cutscene aka the DLC reveal trailer where Miquella is removing the scadutree sap.
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>>484299642
Yes, MiqullaxRadahn fags are a menace.
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>abyssal serpent
>abyss
>serpents
this is just dark souls isn't it what a fucking hack
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>>484299642
>Gets met with reasonable answers
>Spergs out
?????? It would be infinitely better and wouldn't change TWLID situation at all
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>>484299765
This. BBremake is gonna be the PS6 system seller, just like the DeSremake was for PS5.
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>>484299857
the baby quite literally is godwyn's resurrection. he is never coming back.
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Are they gonna patch nuRadahn?
Are they gonna patch the furnace golems?
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what are the minimum amount of npcs you can fight in the Leda+friends fight?
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>>484299642
>meaningless fan service
Like resurrecting Radahn so that players get to fight that super awesome boss with the big chungus horse that they all loved a second time
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>>484299926
why doesn't the fag share the audio then.
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>>484299926
Just how much was being rewritten two months before the release of this DLC? From really needs to stop working like this, it's why quests need to be patched in weeks after their game goes live.
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Abyssal Woods is a very cool concept that was badly executed
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>>484300053
>nuRadahn
Definitely
>furnace golems
No? Even a retard can beat them at 0 skibidi. Just jump when it stomps? lol
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Was Godwyn fucking Fortissax?
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>>484300015
could is whats the difference no one has any imagination anymore just datamined results
good night folks.
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>>484300053
yes
no but i wish they'd change their ai so they stop doing the fucking homing fireballs while i'm trying to throw my limited ingredient pots
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>>484299494
The eclipse ritual failed already because Radahn is holding the stars. The ghost in Castle Sol speaks of the ritual in past tense having failed. Narratively it's one of Miquella's many failed plans that lead him to more desperate action later. Godwyn was never coming back. Radahn was always the intended Consort.
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>Lord Miquella, forgive me. The sun has not been swallowed. Our prayers were lacking. Your comrade remains soulless. I will never set my eyes upon it now, your divine Haligtree
>>484300015
>>484299857
There's no fucking baby, Fia gets killed and called a whore
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>>484300214

But it's sooooo tedious, give them less stance at least.
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>>484300214
Furnace Golems arent hard, they are BORING
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>I could kill ya. And then defile yer corpse
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>>484300068
5v3 + spirit ashes is the max number of NPCs I believe.

>>484300053
>Are they gonna patch nuRadahn?
I hope not.

>Are they gonna patch the furnace golems?
Hopefully.
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Marika is Blaidd's mother
>Bladd is a half-man half-wolf
>Marika's shadow is Maliketh
>They become closer than family
>Him staying in Leyndell would expose Marika as a furry so radagon gifts him to Ranni
He can become Ranni's shadow, because he's already half-shadow.
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>>484300220
they're both guys
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>>484300261
you're a room temp IQ autist who doesn't understand nonliteral writing.
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>>484300068
For me it was just two; Dryleaf Dane and Leda herself. Ansbach was on my side, I killed Hornsent when he invaded me early, I killed Moore by accident after squishing a bug and he invaded me, I did not give the scroll to Freyja (because I forgot), so she was stuck in the library forever, and Thioller was on my side.

So it was a very funny 3 v 2. We stomped her fucking brains in.
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>>484300261
she calls the cursemark of mending deathrune your her and godwyns baby anon
>>484300369
this is all I deal with all the time im starting to lose it.
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>>484299849
It's pretty honest
All of the R1 attacks and the jumping R2 are the standard greatspear stuff
the standing and running R2 are a somewhat slow throw, that isn't thrillingly strong but allows you to turn and burn from long distances with good tracking and bully casters. It takes a lot of stamina because it seems like they nerfed it right before the dlc came out
The skill has a windbox thing at the beginning that combos into the first hit, which also sends out a long ranged wave of fire that lingers. the second hit, a repeating thrust thing, is really good at chasing, and the third it is pretty much an anti gank move. Good HA and the first and second hits can be cancelled into rolls or R1s pretty quick. The first one can also jump over a lot of stuff
It gets pretty equal amounts of damage from Dex and Fai so I use it with a lot of faith for jacked up strong incants. Naturally you can 2hand it for HA or do some offhand spell or shieldpoke stuff.
It's damage isn't ultra stellar but it's extremely versatile and fun, and really fucking long. use your crouch attacks
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>>484300342
That doesn't answer my question plus Lia is not a man and she's Fortissax.
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>>484299761
>>484299806
>>484299989
Godwyn is permadead, the solar eclipse ritual even in universe not only can never happen because the (alleged) positions and orbits of all the celestial bodies preventing an eclipse, but even if the eclipse happens, there is no proof it would actually work.
Its a bunch of hearsay, as much as the schizo rambling of the fingers.

>>484299956
Yes.

>>484300071
I don't like the ending either. Final boss and the shitty cutscene was a shit way to end an otherwise amazing From DLC, only thing I enjoy is that Miquella and Malariafags got blown the fuck out forever.
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what's better the dragon cult form or the dragon communion form?
one is arcane dragon and one is faith dragon?
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>>484300294
>>484300053
what's wrong with furnace golems?
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>>484298373
Let us pose the question what a DLC that was true to Miquella's character would look like.

(3/3)

The DLC would be these great embodiments of strength and kindness converging. Miquella, knowing of the Law of Causality and Regression would encourage the Tarnished to no longer walk a blood-soaked path as many heroes before them. In his wise kindness, he would offer the alternative: of using his natural ability to elicit love in tandem with the Tarnished's strength to defeat foes while leaving them alive so as to pave the way for the mending of the Greater Will's relationship with mankind. Thus would the Tarnished's blade be wielded with discernment and virtue provided by Miquella counsel, allowing their armament to be enchanted with a means of rendering foes harmless without hurting them. The enemies in their way would tempt a return to the barbarity of before, but together, they'd remain true to the path of the kind. They'd face a God of Death, as the threat of entropy, limitation and transience tempts all to clutch what they have close and forego the path of the kind. They'd together undergo purification to leave behind all egoic attachment, facing specters of their own shadow selves embodied by lingering regret and guilt. They'd together face the loving wrath of the Greater Will (God), and take the sins of mankind upon themselves so as to rectify them. Then and only then would they earn the miracle of everlasting salvation. They'd together return to the unclean world renewed, purer as one then all the Chosen that had come before, granting all who were once called unclean new life (Malenia and Godwyn) even those that once opposed them.
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>>484300285
>Miquella's promised order of love and compassion for all things loses to this
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We have no idea how Godwyn even fought, since no armor or weapons are connected to him, outside of some Dragon Cult incantations.
Even if he was somehow brought back, he could have been another two sword wielding gungas, and not fight like the Nameless King expy people think he is.
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>>484296428
>As long as you don't fight the Shadowkeep boss
which one? I'm about to do the Shadowkeep but I do feel like I've done every quest? Except for that mage guy I dunno where that map is trying to tell me to go. I also haven't done anything with the dragon area just talk to the rad screaming guy but went ahead and explored another area
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>>484300519
they're unbelievably boring
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>>484300180
Cause the nigga fucking sucks and said some shit about not wanting fake ending cutscenes popping up with the audio and only wants to post stuff with
"context" (which we don't have because the shift in narrative was apparently so big this ending cutscene is unrelated to the final ending we got)
>>484300190
Not much to say but agreed. Insane how much they had to patch in for the base game.
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>>484299631
Broskis?
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how do i get ansbach and thiollier to fight for leda? i literally want to 1v20 all of these fucking casuals
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>>484300220
More importantly why don't we have an ending where we fuck a dragon
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>>484299625
Placidisax should be since he has some form of control over time.
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>>484300068
Leda + Dane are always there. I even killed Leda before by teaming up with Hornsent and it doesn't matter since she comes back for it.

I haven't tried killing Dane when you see him instead of dueling him with the emote though. But I think you will always have Leda + Dane as the minimum.
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>>484300324
Blaidd is an agent of the Fingers, a gun to Ranni's head to make sure she behaves. The wolves Radagon gifted were the big red ones.
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>>484300235
>kill radahn
>suddenly the eclipse can be a way again
>miquella would still need to go to shadow lands anyway to rescue the soul
it is not like radahn dead isnt a requirement already or anything
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>>484300616
these niggers just want to feel like special club faggots.
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>>484300696
you cant kill any npcs outside of their scripted encounters. they just poof into a cloud of dust

t. murderhobo madness man
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holy fuck fighting renalla is so bad as a mage build when everything resist magic and/or have to go melee since everyone is shooting magic at you and have no decent melee weapons to combat it. i had to hyper cheese it by making my starting shortsword have bleed on it and summoning the two bleed ghosts
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>>484300506
The whole fia is fortissax theory got disproven with the dlc cause we see what a dragon's human form looks like, no?
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https://strawpoll.com/GeZARN4AbyV
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just bagged my second radahn kill lets fucking GO
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>>484300513
the sadface form
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Is there/will there ever be porn of Romina?
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>>484300190
It wasn't cut two months before. Maybe a short cutscene or whatever, but not entire plotlines or the general direction of the story. If you genuinly believe that you are probably braindead.
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>>484300805
>FKGS
>YDBTG
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>>484300456
I also genuinely can't tell if the 2h R2 has any hyperarmor or not. No one ever tries to trade with it and it comes out just fast enough that even if I get staggered the projectile hits up close
>>484300805
Time for a real challenge: help a host kill him
they will have 8 blessings and 40 vigor btw
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>>484300630
Not possible. Leda will always betray Ansbach. There's only three outcomes

1) You help Leda kill Ansbach early for her rewards and he is not there to help her *or* you
2) You ignore Leda's request to kill Ansbach and he sides with you anyway
3) You kill Leda early and he sides with you anyway.

I don't know if Thioller can fight against you there either because he finds St. Trina's sapussy cave and stays there gooning unless you break him free at which point he joins you instead.
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Are regular swords useful in PvP?
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I know I'm late but what is this bait and switch on the lore?
>Miquella apparently never cared about Godwyn or curing Melania's rot affliction
>he was obsessed with Radahn all along even though nothing in the base game hints at this
>taking Mogh's body and implanting Radahn's soul in it to revive people is a thing now
>none of the other demigods knew about the shadow realm or the Divine Gate that grants godhood
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>>484300903
>was at 16 skibidis as well
honestly you're completely correct anon, i have no choice but to run it back
>>484300926
ill pass ty
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>>484300567
gold theme strength/quality, into gold lightning strength faith after communing with dragons (not communiON, communING)
miq is int faith with faith bias, st trina is int faith with int bias (sword base game), marika is int faith with a level 200+ 80 80 spread, radagon is the same, morgott is dex arc faith with dex faith bias, mohg is the same but str not dex with arc faith bias
godfrey is pure quality
godrick is pure quality but a jobber
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>>484300805
gj cutie
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>>484300191
>giant area clearly made with torrent in mind
>deactivate torrent
>fill it with nothing
>tiny dungeon filled with nothing in one little corner
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>>484300982
absolutely. the longsword is a staple
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I have a request for the PvPers here.
Offhand greatsword + mainhand dane's footwork/dryleaf arts
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>>484300762
>kill radahn
Malenia failed, set off the rot bomb and that didn't work either. Miquella moved on to the next plan, gets kidnapped and is in Scadu by the time the player kills Radahn.
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>>484300889
The leaker literally says the way the game ends now (Miquella radahn) is completely unrelated to the scrapped cutscene (based on the dialogue to the cutscene), so at least the final section of the dlc had a big overhaul.
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>DLC's out
>Still no Madness or Sleep infusions
Miyazaki-sama...
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>>484300982
yes
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>>484300582
Messmer.

The map is also super fucking obnoxious and what looks like it should be a straight line is almost always wrong. It's "haha there's actually a sub layer under the map that we don't show you and you need to find this little hole/tunnel that leads you down and all the way around teehee"

You should definitely go do the rad screaming guy's questline though.
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You guys ever think they're just taking the piss? It actually feels almost like the player is being mocked. DS1 has narrative elements interwoven into the fights, but people really latched onto challenge and anime flips. Each fromsoft game has progressively been a further, cartoonish exaggeration of "harder, more shonen." I thought gael was the peak of this caricature, but it only got worse. It's as of from is saying "oh, you like that? How about this incredibly stupid shit" and of course people beat it anyway; all you really need is time and patience, plus a dose of masochism. Look at the boss attacks and ashes of war. The movesets in this game are retarded. From is actually mocking the dedicated players, seeing what degree of shit they will eat.
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I don't know if that was clear enough so let me say it much more clearly
Godwyn is yellow vyke
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>>484300519
They're extremely boring, aside from the one's you can dunk on, but those have issues if you don't have enough pots since you need to recraft them, which you can't do in combat. People complain about Erdtree Avatars being boring reskins, but I still enjoy fighting them, not to mention it's a lot quicker than staggering a golem 6 times.
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>>484301039
ty anon. what kinda char should i run the dlc with next?
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I miss before I knew what data mining was and thought thes3 types of games couldb have secrets left to discover
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>>484301015
I don't think it was intended to be a bait and switch but a twist. It's not a good twist but it's meant to surprise you. Like
>oh so that's the REAL story
And not the hearsay you've heard through the lands between. So Mogh wasn't actually as bad as it seems, Radahn and Miquella were never at war with each other, and Melanina was obsessed with serving someone who didn't care for her like any other blindly lead knight into battle.
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>>484301163
WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT ARE YOU INSANE
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>>484301141
So they probably just had an alternate route where you didn't have to fight Miquella and could get a separate ending. That's it.
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>>484300190
my running theory was that the original plot had miquella trying to stop you from getting to him, with the sealing tree set up by him and messmer being on his team. the followers wouldn't know you weren't on his side until they actually reached miquella in the tower, prompting the gank squad.
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>>484300785
>The whole fia is fortissax theory
That was a theory? lmao
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>>484301221
It's just Hardcore Gamer Exam for normalfags now
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>>484288847
Bro you can’t just leak the DS1 remake like this, come on.
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>>484301015
>none of the other demigods knew about the shadow realm or the Divine Gate that grants godhood
This is the sort of thing that really bothers me. There's this fucking structure that turns people into full-fledged divinity AND IS HOW MARIKA HERSELF BECAME A GOD, and none of the other demigods even mention it at all. I know that Fromsoft's DLCs are always kept pretty separate from the base game but for fuck's sake. And this time we don't even get anything as simple as Sif's altered cutscene for having saved him in the DLC. Everything in the base game remains unchanged, no altered Malenia dialogue, no conversation with Gideon explaining what Miquella was actually up to the whole time, nothing. Makes it feel way too disconnected and nonsensical.
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>>484301128
what is your request exactly?
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Dryleaf arts? More like dryly farts.
This shit sucks.
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>>484301315
It's really not that good anymore. You'll kill a person with any decent weapon way before you ever sleep them with another.
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>>484301015
>Miquella apparently never cared about Godwyn or curing Melania's rot affliction
Miquella failed in his endeavors so decided to go the nuclear option and ascend to Godhood to fix the world through the Gate of Divinity instead of waiting for the fingers/GW to say its ok to supplant Marika
>he was obsessed with Radahn all along even though nothing in the base game hints at this
There are no answers, only theories
>taking Mogh's body and implanting Radahn's soul in it to revive people is a thing now
Ranni? Darian/Devin? Sellen? Melina? Does Goldfrey count? All examples of body swapping, soul stuffing into objects, twin soul sharing multiple bodies, and being a bodiless existence.
>none of the other demigods knew about the shadow realm or the Divine Gate that grants godhood
We don't know that.
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>>484301421
To see how this combo performs
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Why do Death Knights have a similar moveset with Radahn?
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>>484300519
Boring, and if you aren't packing a way to deal heavy poise damage, it's going to take forever to just knock them over so you can start throwing pots at it (which really isn't any faster than the 2 crits it takes to kill them unless you burn a very limited resource to make the super furnace pots)
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>>484301018
>(not communiON, communING)
Literally the same thing according to the DLC.
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>>484301481
limits of the human anatomy and the physiological fact that dual wielding is fucking retarded
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>>484301481
moveset recycling
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>>484301050
Midra's Manse definitely deserved to be a far bigger dungeon, really felt like it was cut down for lack of dev time.
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>>484301558
I mean, even the stupid ass blinkbolt is similar to what he does with gravity
>>484301585
arigatou 40 dollarinos
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>>484301442
I think the only thing that's busted right now is the spread crossbow, but also getting phantom hit with sleep is awful. Same for madness-- oh also that madness torch is 100% getting nerfed.
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Bread
>>484301792
>>484301792
>>484301792
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>>484301015
>>none of the other demigods knew about the shadow realm or the Divine Gate that grants godhood
This one is the big one. I can only imagine this is some super secret backdoor access into the Elden Ring that bypasses the process completely and instantly grants you admin rights to the Erdtree and the Elden Ring through hacking.
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>>484299926
someone tell me how to extract audio so I can just find it myself.
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>>484301221
souls games are kind of as hard as you make it for yourself kind of games, if you're still struggling after using 50 skidibi toilets you need to git gud scrub and check yourself before you wreck yourself in my opinion
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>>484301205
>The map is also super fucking obnoxious and what looks like it should be a straight line is almost always wrong. It's "haha there's actually a sub layer under the map that we don't show you and you need to find this little hole/tunnel that leads you down and all the way around teehee"
This shit was way too annoying. They need to give me layered maps if they're going to pull this shit to this degree.
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This DLC needs a few things

>A Twin-Moon Greatsword that Rellana had yet to give Messmer as a bridegift. As well as a bit more of a Carian presence. With a Carian light armor & heavy armor.

>A Noxian underground area/underground area in general. Let's learn more about the Night.

>A quest by a death priest investigating Godwyn. Nothing changes his condition, but you find out more about his Living in Death anti-crusible powers, & basically have a "Godwyn" section of the game devoted to him. Maybe include some Beastmen lore too.

Drop Radahn completely & let Miqy summon in different sworn protectors kinda like Halflight.

St. Trina should have been closer to begining, like Elizabeth in the first DS DLC. More sleep items in general, sleep perfume, a sleep weapon or two.
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>>484301394
>Everyone wants to supplant Marika by controlling the Elden Ring and thus become the apex of the Golden Order
>Marika keeps the existence of the Gate of Divinity a secret from her Golden Order children and their bloodlines and descendants so no one gets any ideas to circumvent her and the entirety of the Golden Order
Man I wonder why no one knew such a thing existed?
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>>484299642
>Just the most dogshit opinion in all of history
Please do not reproduce
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What's the best build to help people in the DLC?
I use a great shield + Scarlet rot / Build thrusting sword for quick damage.

Is there like a better build to help people?
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>>484300190
Idk. The trailers might've been done a year ago and we wouldn't know.
Like, the Messmer VA in the trailers sounds completely different than the one in game and I don't think the direction of that could've been done in such short notice.
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>>484301436
What's wrong with it?
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>>484301920
>Marika keeps the existence of the Gate of Divinity a secret
Source?
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>get summoned for dlc radahn on haligtree knight themed build
>let us go together near the entrance once phase 2 starts
>37 failures, 1 victory
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>>484301557
dragon communion is like communion as in drinking their blood (eating the heart in this case) to consume and become the dragon, where are dragon cult is not its yellow lightning taught to men by dragons.
>the dlc retcons-
if you say so, i'm not ready to discuss dlc lore yet
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>>484301965
I just use whatever build that i'm using at the moment man. Faith is nice because you can heal people
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>>484302042
Fast
Low stam cost
Good damage
Palm strike obliterates players if you get the full charge off
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>>484295950
>>484295663
fun fact, the shamans still have bodies underneath all that flesh. They literally were forced to graft several peoples worth of body slurry to do... something
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>>484301445
>Ranni? Darian/Devin? Sellen? Melina? Does Goldfrey count? All examples of body swapping, soul stuffing into objects, twin soul sharing multiple bodies, and being a bodiless existence.
Fair enough. Imagining Mogh's corpse becoming Radahn (but also having Movh's abilities) is just hard to wrap my head around.
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do the new radahn greatswords' skill damage really scale with faith? jesus christ
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>>484301163
I had a similar experience in DS3. I was so excited for the ice magic, and then super disappointed once I got ahold of the two spells. At least elden ring let my ice mage dream come true.
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>>484301015
>>none of the other demigods knew about the shadow realm or the Divine Gate that grants godhood
To add to this
>This is despite Messmer's crusade taking place after Radahn's youth as confirmed by "Blades of Stone" and Gaius's Armor".
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>>484287584
>flame of ambition
Are you ESL or retarded?
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>>484298372
Man bleach was such dogshit
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So what does the two fingers gesture do?
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>>484285925
they are the same but also separate.liikehowathena bears aspects of zeus, but ultimateluy though being literallly of his flesh springs fortrh s an independant being
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>>484289825
>patch stealth drops. adds new Cleansed Goddess Malenia superboss. she rolls a boulder at you. kino
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>>484290458
the erdtree is literally grafted onto whatremains of the scadutree in the lands between afterVmarikaVburnedVit. you can see where it was spliced as a sapling from anywhere in Leyndell (that bigVdark inverted V shape)
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>>484290798
they taste like burning



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