>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passworderg>Previous>>484285432
first for fuck fighting through carian school as a mage build
>>484301792>Ranni fags this jealous over what Radahn and Miquella have
>spaces you
>>484301792Literally me.
somebody explain how to extract audio from elden ring so I can bypass the gatekeeping lorehomos and find the cut dialogues.I know how to use github
>make super cool looking weapon>it's complete ass because of the scaling>the best weapon in the dlc is the shit smeared ass encrusted cum soaked club of fart scentmiyazaki you genius you've done it again
>>484302086Sadly it doesn't break poise so
>>484301951Throw rocks, stupid.
>>484301906>sleep perfumethis is the thing that makes me ???perfumers are the one fuckers that would and should make use of sleep, you could even make it an item like uplifting aromatic instead of a weapon
Radahn, Promised Consort? More like RaYAWN, Promised SNOREort
>>484302167even if it did, it'd still be asshas that chink not learnt from the dancer's enchanted swords? fucking hack
>>484302086I miss them so fucking much.
is the godslayers first couple r1's seriously a true combo
>>484302086get off it dude
Holy shit I'm so fucking confused on what the meta level is. Is it still 150? 166? Some dudes are saying 200 which is ridiculous.
>>484302253have fun with your c/c/c/c weapon lmao!
>Godwyn fags get told to fuck off with their fan service>All of them got triggeredBitch all you want, he was never ever coming back when his story is open and shut in the base game.
godwynfags need to die
>>484302086remember>less poise damage than a rapier r1lmao@lgs
>No madness chaos blade katana0/10 horrible DLC
https://strawpoll.com/GeZARN4AbyV
>>484302323get off what dudecan i not complain
How the FUCK is this weapon allowed, bros, wtf is Miyazaki smoking?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOBIakUWz9o
Did Miquella really have to orchestrate a long-winded and convoluted plan involving brainwashing his well meaning but socially awkward basement-dwelling incel half-brother into raping him to death and THEN waiting for a random tarnished to come to this incredibly well hidden place to kill his half-brother instead of just killing Mohg with Malenia or something and then killing himself?
>>484301951>Pick up your magic noble's estoc>Stab them to death Shrimple as that
the only difference from prime radahn are the rings around the original stuff
>>484302405Buy an ad
>>484302086I've been using it and it seems fine. Am I supposed to be using the Smithscript weapons for my balanced str/dex/int/fth build?
This DLC needs a few things>A Twin-Moon Greatsword that Rellana had yet to give Messmer as a bridegift. As well as a bit more of a Carian presence. With a Carian light armor & heavy armor.>A Noxian underground area/underground area in general. Let's learn more about the Night. A Starlight Greatsword which is the archetype to the Moonlight Greatswords>A quest by a death priest investigating Godwyn. Nothing changes his condition, but you find out more about his Living in Death anti-crusible powers, & basically have a "Godwyn" section of the game devoted to him. Maybe include some Beastmen lore too.>Drop Radahn completely & let Miqy summon in different sworn protectors kinda like Halflight.>St. Trina should have been closer to begining, like Elizabeth in the first DS DLC. More sleep items in general, sleep perfume, a sleep weapon or two.>Scarlet Rot Perfume while we're at it.>a little bit of lore or Radagon
>>484302259so the dark soul is the hornsent. hmmm interdading
>>484301792Asking again, what build do you guys use to help people and friends?Any tips to improve mine?Blood Antspur Rapier = Boss fightBlasphemous Blade = PVE, Dungeons, Caves
>>484302429mayube he was just having fun
>>484302327The DLC absolutely shits runes so getting up to 180 - 200 isn't really suprising.
>>484302401no you are, i'm just complaining about you complaining
>>484302365>Frenzy>KatanaGet fucked weeb. Enjoy Yura's not frenzied Katana.
>>484302429we'll never know for sure
>>484302429Yes because his master plan with the haligtree eclipse failed
>>484302515oh okay greatit's still a shit weapon
>>484302519Chaos Blade deserves to be in every game
>>484302365>no sleep katana>no madness katanaboth my bets were wrong
>>484301951don't mind me just invalidating every mage in the local area including the boss
>>484302327200 is easy to get by accident. Are you just bad & struggle to level up?
>>484301445There's something that talks about Miquella idolizing Radahn for being strong but protecting the weak like Selia but I can't find it at the moment.
LADS, BEST SPIRIT ASHES, FUCK UTILITY GO FOR FUN
>>484302470I like how we got another sleep straight sword but its worse than the existing one>>484302568chaos blade is just a katana that hurts you when you attack-- wait wtf there's actually no chaos blade in elden ring
>>484302465t. chicken leg abuser who's uncomfortable about how it's absolute horseshit is being called out. Enjoy your inevitable nerf.
>>484302429Radahn was worth it
>>484302487DLC adds a good amount of strong support incantations like heal from afar if you just want to help people without completely winning encounters for them.
>>484302478Yes, and Melina is Velka.
>>484301951All mages should toss rocks.
>>484302780haha good one faggot
>>484302761I will never have sex
>>484302462it's depicting the greater will
>>484302684the two ladies you get from the dlcbecause I like having a couple of hot lady warriors backing me up
>>484302327150 for "pure" builds 200 for hybrids, spell reqs went higher and whatnot. also fucking around pretending beating the game with 46 vig was tolerable is no longer a valid cope since you get three shot in the entrance area of the dlc with 60
It's cool how little downtime I get from Bayle spamming double element nukes just to drink a flask.
People are already making cool cinematic fights of the dlc bosses, and people are complaining that its too hardhttps://x.com/SunhiLegend/status/1807843440429855008
Have data miners found anything interesting?Since we're not getting an Elden Ring 2?
>>484302761PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
Is The Tarnished the bad guy in the DLC?
if this was unendurable frenzy, he would be dead right?what is the point of this spell?
>>484302468Smithscript stuff works best in pure INT or FTH builds with their respective elemental infusions.
>>484302864The greater will is just the interstellar void of outer space.
>>484302938shut the fuck up Miquella
>>484302761Carian women are just built different. Radagon & his sons knows what's up
>Finish phase 1 with *relative* ease. >Get 100-0'd immediately in the second one>Repeat Kill Miyazaki. Behead Miyazaki. Roundhouse kick a Miyazaki into the concrete. Slam dunk a Miyazaki baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Miyazaki. Defecate in a Miyazaki food. Launch Miyazaki into the sun. Stir fry Miyazaki in a wok. Toss Miyazaki into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Miyazaki gas tank. Judo throw Miyazaki into a wood chipper. Twist Miyazaki heads off. Report Miyazaki to the IRS. Karate chop Miyazaki in half. Curb stomp pregnant Miyazaki. Trap Miyazaki in quicksand. Crush Miyazaki in the trash compactor. Liquefy Miyazaki in a vat of acid. Eat Miyazaki. Dissect Miyazaki. Exterminate Miyazaki in the gas chamber. Stomp Miyazaki skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Miyazaki in the oven. Lobotomize Miyazaki. Mandatory abortions for Miyazaki. Grind Miyazaki fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Miyazaki in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Miyazaki with a ray gun. Kick old Miyazaki down the stairs. Feed Miyazaki to alligators. Slice Miyazaki with a katana.
>>484301792bitch, don't just hug me. I want you flinging spells and shit. I want you to cast comet azur while I run around the battlefield
>>484302942probably.it sucks.
>>484302906>parry every attack but it's SLOWED DOWN woowwposter child for a boss that's more fun to watch someone else play than to play
>>484302487Faith rolling sparks perfume cheese when I'm helping others nuke Radahn to oblivion Otherwise, pure Dex basic daggers or Falx
>Miquella sacrifices himself on crosses>Wants to redeem the original sin (literally called that in the game)>Messmer is a snake Miyazaki's masterful weaving of unseen before stories continues....
>>484302748I'm using the one that heals over time. Also what are the best defensive buffs?Like : Golden Vow + Boiled Crab or Black Flame's Protection
>>484302761>dark-haired carian women prefer red-haired men>red-haired carian woman prefers dark-haired tarnished
>>484302942The good Frenzy Support are the Exultation Talisman and the Crouch/Roll Attack boosting talisman for dual Vyke's.
>>484303020Radagon ran off to be with some used up blonde whore, Radahn might be gay, and Rykard fell in love with a Pajeet or Arab who loves snake dick.
>>484302942hes at 80% hp when you cast that its not giantsflame clearly, unendurable wouldn't have finished him either and you'd have hit the 360 burst at 0 fpI think it would have proc'd madness once thoughcombine them into a chain
>>484302684>>484302890Jolan and Anna are pretty great.They tie for my favorite in the DLC with Taylew. He's just so fucking good as a tank. He's everything that makes the Shield Bros good, but he's more predictable in how things will go. The AI won't randomly switch around to different topics and he won't break a stagger by hitting it super fast right after.
>>484302890I used to use the noxian sister's. Then I just upgraded to the real Night sisters.
>>484302429Mogh kidnapping Miquella was not part of the plan, the charm came after out of necessity. Miquella gets in the cocoon in the Haligtree and sends Malenia to kill Radahn(trailer cinematic). While she's gone, Mohg sneaks in. When Malenia gets back she thinks he's still in the tree, she's cradling it when you walk into the boss fight.
>>484302761SEXSEXSEXSEX
>i will never bust an earth-shattering mind-blasting nut balls deep in miquella's bpanyways is dex/fth with milady good anons?
>>484303124WHY IS ORIGINAL SIN SHIT EVERYWHEREI USED TO LIKE THIS METAPHORI'M TIRED OF THIS BEATEN DEAD HORSEAND WHY IS IT ALWAYS JAP GAMESWHY ARE THEY OBSESSED WITH THE ORIGINAL SIN
>>484303124damn Jesus looked like that?
>>484303203is there some alchemical meaning to red and black?
Coomers can complain about the dancer's dress, but I like the tasteful lewdness of her pants.
>>484303372it's cool and exotic to them
>swift slashyou didnt beat me
Please talk me out of buying er on pc. It would be my third(!) time buying the damned game. It's on sale though aaaaahhhhh. I really want to play it on pc though fuck. I want to mod it and play it in uw at a far higher quality and performance than console. It's not a smart financial decision though I know that.
>>484303291>Mogh kidnapping Miquella was not part of the planIt was though.Ansbach outright says that Miquella somehow used Mohg to enter the Land of Shadow. And then Miquella outright steals Mohg's body to shove Radahn's soul in once there.As for why or how that works, who knows. Could be something of Mohg being an Omen that let him reach there, or it could be somehow through the Formless Mother since there's Bloodfiends all over the Land of Shadow too.
>>484302429He could've just talked to us once, mentions on how he loves tarnished cockUse some invincible barrier that even Rya is capable of usingOneshotting us the moment we hit him more than 3 timesAnd we are done, 99% of the community would love him
>>484303372same reason why whitoids became obsessed with tarot and suddenly every single game in the fucking planet had tarot references or tarot sidequests or tarot collectibles
>>484303372Because they're not a christian nation so the concept of original sin is metaphorically new to them.
>>484303223I was so disappointed by Taylew. I got him and the only boss I could try him on was Radahn, but he died in like 20 seconds.
Is there a way to alter NG cycle?All my characters are stupid high NG+ cycle by now, and I'm too rusty to make them work, but on the other hand, getting everything again sounds like a hassle in itself.I don't know if I should just do the DLC in NG+3, my current lowest, or just get everything again.
is there a new skill or spell that full revives a player in pvp or was this dude just blatantly hacking?
>>484302938With the exception of Bloodborne in a way, you never really have been a good guy. You are some random nobody that inserts yourself into business you have no reason being involved in and kill or cause the death of every important figure in the game and become the ruling force, cosmic deity, or threat of calamity that changes the foundation of the world.
>>484303291mohg kidnapping miquella IS part of the plan because radahn's soul needed a vessel to inhabit in order for the whole plan with the gate of divinity to work>A lord will usher in a god's return, and the lord's soul will require a vessel.
>>484303448The effects evangelion has had on Japanese media is a curse.
>>484303484you only live once unless reincarnation is a thing, do what you must
>>484303083>>484303208>>484303215I just wanted a cool new spell...at least the perfumes and the hand is fun
>>484303484Is it gonna financially cripple you for a month or so? If not, then go ahead
I want to use Rellana's twin swords but using using an INT weapon without using Soeceries feels like I'm wasting points
So is Messmer's stick just a pvp thing? I can't say I'm impressed with it so far for pve.
>>484303563hack
>>484303562if it's been a while I think starting a new character would probably be most fun, but I really like the game>>484303563cheater for sure
Seriously, why does Bayle have downtime on drone lightning strike, but not on the attack that causes the ground actually erupt? You finish dodging the latter, and he's already doing his melee combo, not even enough time to land a Lion Claw.
>>484302942Should've used the torch instead, and been a dick and pair it with the eclipse shotel lmao
>>484303556He seems to struggle against some bosses, but he was huge against most of the ones I had him go against and lasted a solid minute or two on them.He tanked Radahn a good amount for me, though some attacks definitely did more. I think his slashes were propperly tanked/reduced, but the meteors seemed to do full damage.There's probably some specifics to his damage reduction that Radahn gets through.
>>484303639elden ring's dancer enchanted swordsdon't bother anon it's garbo
>>484303574>>484303504NTA, but maybe him trying to give Godwyn's body a proper death was so it could be sent to the Shadowlands to be Radahn's soul's vessel. Or maybe I've been spending too much time in St. Trina's opium den.
Radahn was so hard that most of the base game now feels boring, there's no thrill on it, but he was also such a miserable experience that I don't want to feel alive doing that shit again. It's kind of impressive that they managed to make a boss so bad that not only did it worsen my perception of the whole DLC but the fucking base game too. At least Malenia's fun now thanks to the new crystal tear, no need to play around Waterfowl dance anymore.
>>484303484if the money is really an issue just pirate it unless you really wanna play online.
>>484303210Radagon found love with Renalla until the Golden harlot forced him to leave. Rykard could still seduce the blue dancer to his side when he was a snake. Messmer sought to soothe his fire in Rellana's deep blue moonlight. Miqy even craved a Carian Prince. Carians are built to rule.
>overtuned enemies and bosses with Sekiro attack chains and aggression that prevent you from getting anything more than a rolling R1s in, all mixed with super armor that prevents you from interrupting them with staggers from well timed and positioned heavy attacks>giant bosses which still have the awful camera that should have been fixed after DS1 now have AoE particle effect spam making the visibility problem worse and ruining what would have been good fights>vast empty regions with shit items or absolutely nothing at all encouraging you to ignore the exploration that the level structure and overworld were supposedly designed for>horrendously balanced and outright bugged weapons and spells galore>dull, simplistic questlines that can also be missed without warning through the progression and exploration the game tries to encourage>Torrent still lets you skip what could have been challenging or interesting level hazardsThis DLC somehow manages to take both series wide problems and problems specific to Elden Ring and amplify them.
>>484302468I think you're meant to use the Anvil Hammer
>>484303484you are genuinely mentally ill if you buy a game more than once, let alone on pc when you can just fucking safely pirate it with a few clickshave some self respect man jesus christ
>>484303759Idk what those are
>>484303615I knew the spell was going to be shit the moment I glanced at it.Unendurable Frenzy already does its job perfectly.
>>484302470Don't forget a Carian Straight Sword catalyst and an unscalified Scaled Set. Also, a new version of Miriam's Vanishing that travels at least half a length farther.
>>484303660I almost only have PvP webms of it but I did save a cool bayle fight i had with itI think it's very good for PvE because1. greatspear2. throwing3. fire damage
>>484303504My theory is that since the rune of death is out of the Elden ring he had to somehow involve outer gods to enter the shadow lands after dyingWhen they died Radahn had scarlet rot and Miquella formless mother blood aids, they couldn't have made it otherwise
>>484303504one of the forms of the golden needle say its only one of a set of an unknown amount of those needles, he could have used one to mess with the powers of outer gods since the one we receive can completely negate frenzy like it ain't no thang
>skipped blackguard/rya questline on a hero i rolled for arc shit>came back to see if i can still get some crab after levelling him up for the dlc>questline is completely inaccessible>okay lets just get his bearing>kill him, offer bearing>all that's in his shop is rya's amuletis this character cooked lads? do i need to start it all over?
I wish we could befriend Messmer.
From should really just start copying MH games already if they wanna make good bosses, these DLC bosses are getting absurdly ridiculous. The whole "when is it my turn to attack" thing is getting out of hand, even schizophrenic retards like Ruiner or Magnamlo get this ridiculuos
>>484303816>Radagon found love with Renalla until the Golden harlot forced him to leave.I get the feeling that it wasn't Marika that made Radagon leave, but rather the Fingers.That was probably around when Marika was starting to do her own thing and realize shit is fucked with the Fingers, so they used Radagon's loyalty to the GO to pull him (and thus Marika) back home and started trying to make Empyreans from the two so they could replace Marika.
>>484303871rellana's swords tries to scale with everything so it ends up not covering anythingthe damage is too spread out and the instant you come across an enemy that's resistant to something you're going to have to shove them both up your ass because they'll be useless
>>484303412Yes there is actually, red is the final color of the philosophers stone process, but clearly this isn't quite it Also most gods are depicted with red hair, and the Japs love jerking off to amaterasu who is depicted with red hair
>>484303210tanith was 100% ride or die, rykard made the best choice out of the family.
>>484302337>open and shutWhy is he a willing sacrifice in the JP text? How in on it was Marika? The pivotal event in the entire cosmology and we don't know shit about why it happened just that it did.
Charged heavy of impaler's spear is too fun
>>484304014>when your little sister makes a friend you don't approve of
>>484303947Sounds pretty cool so uhhhh why can't we join him?
>>484303947I prefer "yield the way to us, to I, Miquella"
>>484303663>if it's been a while I think starting a new character would probably be most fun, but I really like the gameI suppose...I'm going to miss having everything though.
>>484304135Because I don't wanna have a threesome with 2 gay brothers
Redpill me on dragon incantations. May do an NG+ run of them while have the beast claw as a melee weapon.
>>484304260You're confused, you don't get fucked, that's why Radahn is the consort and not you.
>>484304075>Why is he a willing sacrifice in the JP text?Because he is an incel and Fortisaxx (Fia) said she'd fuck him if he went along with it
>>484303562With cheat engine you can both alter your stats and change your NG+ cycle with no issues. However, you want to be careful altering stats and use a build planner to match it all up.
what seal should i use at 50 fth? i have 22 str before someone recommends beastclaw
>[21050000] I hereby swear.>[21050100] To every living being, and every living soul.>[21050200] Now comes the age of our eden.>[21050250]>[21050300] A thousand year voyage guided by compassion.>[21050400] Beginning here, love encompasses all.>[21050500] No living thing will be denied, no deed censured.>[21050600] I am ready. To embrace the whole of it.>[21050700] Let us go together.>[21050800] Radahn, my promised consort.https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12T421e7NB/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.clickCut dialogue added over the phase transition since there is no actual cutscene. Mangled with the ACTUAL phase transition un the html text dump so this was probably just an alternate version rather than a cut ending. Fuck sekirodubi.
do the new radahn greatswords' skill damage scale with faith? for what purpose?
Do you think Ranni gets jealous that we get so many other cuties calling us Lord?
>>484304014You can, just read first about it and daydream about itIdk ehen people started suddenly devaluing headcanon and fanfiction like it isn't just as valid as other forms of spinoff
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>>484304417this is a FTHCHADs game.
>>484302919yes but they're not sharing itone thing they did share is that the phase 2 transition for miquella was more sinister but i cant for the life of me find the video
Guys, it's very important info:What do people in the Haligtree eat? The only way to reach there is through teleportation and it's very limited.Then, I imagine you can't walk around with sweets, since the tree branches have a lot of ants.But I don't see any gardens? Is it even allowed to eat meat? I also think there would be plenty of wine.
>>484303504>Ansbach outright saysI don't remember him saying that and having watched all the dialogue I can find of him on Youtube I could not find it either.>>484303574>A lord will usher in a god's return, and the lord's soul will require a vessel.Yeah that is why Malenia was sent to Caelid to kill him. But she failed. Why would they need Mohgs body after killing Radahn and having his body?
Oh the undodgeable move isn't even like a special thing. He just spams it
>>484304445faggot. it's a title, not a term of endearment
>>484304261>REDpill me on lightningequip godfreys icon and cast this at full charge to kill god itself
>>484304075We still don't even know if Marika split Radagon from her, or he was some rando red haired idiot.ER has a shit load of unanswered questions, and DLC barely answered three of them.
>>484304075I don't care, what's important is that Godwyn was never ever forever coming back to life and all you Deadniggers jebaited yourselves
>>484304417Int/Faith GODS are winning.
>>484304480>this is a FTHCHADs game.
>>484302086what weapon? the bloodfiend arm?
Can we agree this was the most KINO fight of the game?
With the massive success of Elden Ring and Ranni's popularity in particular it's clear that for ER2 or whatever From's next open world game is they need to1.Lock Miyazaki in the basement so they can finally move on from every NPC dying and the world being a broken shithole2.Have multiple factions you can choose to assist or fight against over the course of the game3. Each faction has its own designated wife NPC you get to bang when you beat the game
>>484304579probably
>>484304403>my promised consort>my dear consort, eternalDamn Radahn, sorry to say but he's just using you.
>>484304515He says it during the quest in the Specimen Storage.First two lines are when he's looking for the answer. Three after are what he says when you give him the scroll that has notes on the resurrection ritual.
>>484304514there are some gardens on the roof but watch out for the sentient plants
>>484303660In hindsight I'm not really sure what to show because I just hit him in the face a lot and shoot a couple ancient dragon lightning strikes when he stands stillI basically beat the entire DLC post Messmer with it though so I like it>>484304086It really is>>484304219I mean, if it's really getting to you, you can mule or cheat in the weapons you wanna use for that playthrough, so you can just do the major stuff without having to run errandsI like the game so it's not a big deal for me but I understand that a lot of people can't be assed
>>484304635agreed
>>484304261The new Knight's Lightning is amazing
What the consensus on Legacy dungeons? So far my most memorable moments were in smaller dungeons and open world
>>484304031No, Marika was trying to hold on to her kingdom & feared the Unconquered Queen who had stolen the heart of her wardog. The fingers had not been in touch with the GW & cannot exert direct control over anyone. I don't understand how this Fingers/GW puppets people around shit got started
>>484304403I know why they cut it but damn if it isn't much more sinister and does a much better job of representing how fucked up his age of ''compassion'' is.
>>484304483ScottFaglo made a video saying Radahn was harder in the review copies but there is no video proof of it, only spoken word.
>>484304514lichen
>>484304653this but ACTUALLY unironically
>>484304261Dragonmaw does one morbillion damageDragonclaw is very versatileThe various dragon breaths are all goodArc scaling weapons are coolGreyoll's Roar is a sickass AOE that does a ton of damage and makes whatever you hit take more and deal less
>>484304514you will eat the insects and you will like it
>>484304535>>484304752I, uh, meant the ones that summon dragon parts.>>484304894danke
>>484279302>>484281785Oh something just hit me now. Malenia has always had that strong Valkyrie theme, and she's even literally referred as one in some descriptions in-game.Valkyries are the ones who fetch the souls of great warriors on the battlefield. This would be consistent with her role there.The Valkyrie appellations on Malenia were something I found somewhat superficial and more of a cool design thing. Surely, the Battle of Aeonia is the biggest symbolic image of a battlefield within the game and the Valkyrie thematic could vaguely fit with that (they also double down on the Norse references to that battlefield in the DLC by making a character named Freyja also being there at that battle). But that interpretation really makes the Valkyrie thematic consistent at a higher narrative level.
>>484304635Yes
>>484304635Tie between Bayle and Midra honestly.
>>484303571The only "heroic" one is the Ashen One, since you're resurrected/created specifically to save the world, even if it's ultimately futile.Bloodborne, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2 are all protagonists of circumstance, they're going to their respective lands for their own goals initially.Dark Souls and Elden Ring take the approach that it's all the old ruler's plan to send countless Undead/Tarnished through the proverbial wood chipper until one of them gets through, though in the case of Dark Souls Gwyn and Frampt backed it up by spreading a """"prophecy"""" to Undead which is literally just a to do list.
Is the MLGS any good in this game?
>>484304653All correct, also I would minimize main game (required stuff), have multiple independent questlines and let players decide which interests them the most would be good.
at which level did you start and complete sote?
>>484303372Japs, much like the rest of the non-whites, are completely obsessed with whites and our culture.
>The roots themselves are corrupted
>>484304960ohhh yeah. that slipped my mind>>484305026The skill is a buff, which sucks. But it lets you shoot endless moonbeams for the duration, which does not suck. It also does a lot of damage and applies a strong status quickly
>>484304942You need a serious level investment, 150 is the minimum imo. They're extremely mind intensive but also want 25 faith and 19 arc minimum for the baseline ones. Named Dragon Head incants can be cast from mid air and will stop you while they are being cast which is neat
>>484302715ActhuaALLy, I just went full Moore's set with a blood antspur rapier and shieldpoked. If the boss is aids, I'll be aids.
>>484304403Maybe it's just the shit quality, but that doesn't sound like the same VA as in the actual game to me. That said, if it is real, I like the relatively more subtle references to Ranni's ending when he grabs (You). It comes off as much more manipulative if you did her quest.
>>484304783am I missing something? whats wrong with 1000 years of love? the human condition?
>>484305026it's pretty much the same. you can swing to throw slashes of moonlight
>>484305026very
I've been trying the Radahn fight for an hour now. I haven't noticed much difference in difficulty in phase 1 or 2, because I feel like most of the difficulty comes from it being hard to tell what Radahn will do during his slash combos. Sometimes he hits twice, then waits a few seconds and does some kind of double slash. That one I can dodge just fine. But sometimes he follows up the initial two hit combo with a third, extremely fast hit. Also, sometimes he finishes off his combo with a slow, overhead strike. Sometimes he does some low angle strike instead ,which is brutal to dodge. And tips for these combos?
>>484305206It's scary
>the dlc added 1 (one) ((uno)) SINGLE throwing blade weaponunforgivably fucking lazy
>>484304653it's not like they need to go all the way to the other side of the scale, (nor would people want that i think) the vast majority of the world can be a broken shithole you just gotta have a few communities that feel living. minor changes like stormveil not being hostile once nepheli takes over or expanding jarburg would go a long way
>>484305056>start150>finish200nice and even.>>484305206>I will simply brainwash everyone into being happy and loving and loving me forever despite having thrown away all feelings of love in compassion as well as the ability to understand such things
WHAT THE FUCK IS A "NORMALIZED CRUCIBLE CURRENT"?!MIYAZAKIJUST TELL ME HOW IT WORKS
>>484305056I beat the base game at RL170 by completing every random dungeon I found, and I got to RL200 by doing the same in the DLC. Good exploration, I liked all the areas and legacy dungeons. Boss fights kind of sucked though.
>>484305180tubes ayylmao
>>484304960Also meant to >>484282680>>484282063
>>484305026yes but bloodbornes is better>>484305180>the worldtrees are fuckedso EVERY world is doomed?
>>484305206no free will
>>484304780Seems like they first took action with Marika.We see that the new +1 seed talisman has the fingers engraved on it, and it talks about the first Erdtree seed. It's obvious that they were the ones who gave Marika the seed to grow the Erdtree, and possibly that secret spell too. From what Hewg said about Marika being a natural when it comes to Spirit manipulation, and what the Shamans are called in the JP version, something akin to Miko or Shrine Maiden, Marika was probably very intoned with communicating with the supernatural, maybe even the divine.
>>484304730But the plants are sentient, right? They are part of the Flower Crucible so I imagine they were human beings at some point so I don't think eating Miranda Sprouts is allowed.>>484304817But protein is important...they are still soldiers at the end of the day...>>484304904I guess that makes more sense, but would the Kindred of Rot allow it? They are insects, right? This is so complicated...I now understand why Miquella lost himself...
>Rellana wants to bone Messmer>Who is Marika's son>Who is also Radagon>>>>Rellana wants to bang her nephewWhy the FUCK is there so much incest in this? Maybe GRRM had more influence than we thought...
>>484304403What did Sekirodubi do?
>>484304780Anon, did you completely miss Ranni's questline? The Fingers have power, even if not from the GW. They have connections and authority in the land that let them pull shit. They were the guiding hand of the Golden Order, which in turn influenced the Elden Beast who is the embodiment of Order.Marika already placated Renalla by fucking her brains out as Radagon. That was the plan to end the Liurnian Wars. But that's also around the time Marika realized her men could falter and began looking into the origins of the Golden Order. She realized the truth, that the GW was gone and the Age of the Erdtree is a rotting telephone trying to reach daddy and started to push back on the Fingers.At the same time, we got Ranni who showed the Fingers that Radagon can produce Empyreans who could replace Marika so they got to work on trying to groom them and had Radagon come back and "marry" Marika to keep her under control/producing more Empyreans. But she got the better of them in the end and got her opening to shatter the Elden Ring, leading the Elden Beast to close up everything while the Fingers were left high and dry.
>>484304261They do a lot of damage and are cool BUT you run into the problem of enemies moving or knocking you down. I haven't fucked with them in pve for a long time now though but I remember trying them and being very tempted to endure-cast them.Also you can have a dragon seal in each hand for double the boost
Evergrace's ost would fit in a soulsborne game I feelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJbuHUbw8k
>>484305407giant ants are just giant insects. the kindred of rot are more like outer god spawn alien invaders
>the coolest boss design>the shittiest fightIt was over before I even started trying wtf?!? Why did they make him so weak??
>>484305428>Why the FUCK is there so much incest in this?Gee, I wonder why..
i kind of hate every weapon in this dlc
When is some pissed off paladin going to get off his lazy ass and make a Sunlight Greatsword already
>>484304556I think if you take the Trina stuff as analogous that Radagon is what Marika cast off to achieve godhood.
>>484305321>all weapon types is either 2-3, probably share the same moveset with 1-2 moves difference at most>perfume bottles have 5 because it's the easiest to changeyou rike?
>>484305531This is what the Merchants hear every minute of every day.
>>484305491He said he found unused miquella dialogue (which is most likely just this dialogue) but won't post it because there is no cutscene and no context and he doesn't want fake ending cutscenes to pop up or some shit.
>>484305026It's good, but the moveset is pretty boring.
Did I beat the game if I used this?
>>484305391free will is an illusion all choices are decided in advance alternatively time flows backwards into itself form the future (weird but true, computers have measured this) fate is literally at play in elden ring in tandem with the stars like astrology, astrologer...>>484305339>I brainwash everyone to love despite forgetting lovehow? you know what Ill give that one a pass though, god powers and shit is a fine answer and Miq has at least 72 faith.
>>484305180>Metyr fight arena and Erdtree line up
>>484305656The "cut" content was literally in the game the whole time as part of the St. Trina questline. What a noob.
>Malenia was just following orders like a thoughtless dummy>Radahn is a desperate sissy chaser>Mohg got catfished by his own little brother>Rykard isn't even the original snek in the family>Godrick is still GodrickMorgottCHADs won
Can you imagine a world where gold is just fucking everywhere. It's in every single plant, it's in every kind of stone, you see it in flowers. You see it in actual shit. People and animals shit out gold because there is so fucking much of it in the world. Can you imagine how trade could have been like in the lands between with this much gold?
>>484305180Big "tubes" Metyr is using to listen for the greater will?
>>484305017I've always wanted to see a Tarnished/Ashen/whatever who is just like the player character, but self serving instead. Like what if after a ways through the game there was a boss who was just a regular randomized build like the Greatjar fights, but he held a Great Rune.
>>484305514>>484304261oh also they cost a shit billion stamina and FP so it may be one of the rare times where you are tempted to have like 40mind+primal glintstone blade to reduce casting costs, and maybe turtle talisman to quickly get endurance back up
>>484305428>>484305579>not knowing fucking ANYTHING about Greek and other mythology>which the story heavily takes inspiration fromAre you two dumb?
>>484304059This. Tanith was so dedicated to him I respected it, even if she was a freak.
>>484305206>miquella needs to give you a sloppy kiss twice to charm youwill he do this to every living creature? why is he such a slut?
Messmer is the red light at the top of the Helphen (the shadow keep)
>>484303586it all goes back to tsubaraya putting christian imagery in ultraman
>>484305841Did Rykard love her back?
>>484305180I had the same thought when I saw this place, but I think it's not EXACTLY the same.The tubes in Metyr's arena are more closely packed and near us. The Trees in EB's arena are all super far apart and out there.I think the Metyr tubes are actually the bottoms of the giant fingers in the Finger Ruins. They're the ones trying to reach out to the world above.The Trees probably are meant to serve a similar purpose, acting as a way to contact the GW, but they're more spread out cause they're taking place across the microcosm. We're figthing within one, OUR Erdtree, and seeing others in the distance. Perhaps on different worlds, or perhaps in parallel worlds other players are in.
>>484305587Yes, but there is no concrete answer.We don't know if Miquella doing all that shedding was necessary to become a god, or was not necessary, but did it to become a god he thinks would not make the same mistakes as Marika.The DLC put down the bread crumbs to follow, and then From just snatched the cake away, just to make you follow more bread crumbs.
>>484305851do we have a hearts stolen meter to go with malenias kill streak counter? which was well into 50 million last I heard the latter I mean
RannibrosHow are we feeling after the lore revelations in the DLC?
>>484305830Stop stroking your own cock, Anon. I know a bit about Greek mythology, but I wouldn't say that Elden Ring has much inspiration from that. If you're referring to the Oedipus Complex thing, then that's a stretch.
>>484305405Yes yes yes, the Fingers guide people. But they cannot & do not control people.
>level 220>18 scoobydoo/7 spirit ash>summon igon>used mimic>crimson seed and highest physical+fire+lightning shield talismans>absorption buff flask>golden vowI DID beat Bayle.
mohg was necessary for the ritual because by virtue of being a hornsent, he had an empyrean body, which made it suitable for whatever makes empyreans special. a normal body doesn't get the job done.
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>>484305286Can anyone help me with this?
>>484305180I'm pretty sure the trees are way bigger than those fallopian tubes, I don't think they match
>>484305978let's fucking go
Hey guys so I've got my dueling shield in my right hand twohanded with two preloaded sleep spread crossbows behind it and I was wondering what's the best offhand to combo off of sleep with? Can anyone tell me?
>>484305934Yes, she was given that potion to lose her memory so she could leave him when he went full snakeman so she didn't have to follow his path of Hell.
>>484305958malenia had 329 million attempts last time they posted it
>>484305978Simp meter: still maxed out. If you wanna break free of the cycle, choose Goldmask
>>484306085the needle you get from thioller
>>484306029Raptor of the Mists, Bloodhound Step, equipping a shield, using the Crucible talismans to increase immunity frames while rolling, going light roll for further roll distance etc..
>>484305737nigger where were you earlier when I was all "post the gif" it even has the divine bridge ON this map just like I was saying.
>>484305980Okay never mind you are genuinly retarded.
>>484305893Which makes it funnier that Tsuburaya was a Catholic in the later half of his life. He was doing it to express his faith while the other Japanese people.referencing it just do it because it looks cool or because they like using the philisophy. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I just find it somewhat amusing.
>>484306085
>>484305715His whole thing is charming people and stealing their hearts, thus clouding their minds and making them pledge servitudeThe ghost and the crosses in the fissure and on the coast point to it being kind of a bad idea. Him abandoning his love, and his hesitation, in order to usher in love at any cost?>>484305056Didn't even get max blessing, damn
>>484305737map makes more sense if you rotate it 90 degrees counter-clockwise. it lines up bayle's arena with the mountains and puts the coast actually on the coast
>>484306085You can put Giant Hunt on the Thrusting Shield.
How do I build Florissax as optimized as possible?>lightning >florissax gavel>enough arcane to do the gavel aow well
>>484306181You've had two posts to explain your claims beyond Ad Hominem attacks. You have not done so. I accept your concession.
>>484304780>The fingers had not been in touch with the GW & cannot exert direct control over anyoneare you a brainlet who can't understand a GRRM plot? It doesn't matter if they can't contact the GW if everybody believes they can and follows the fingers blindly. Marika obviously figured that out, hence why she outright started calling for people to look into and question the GO. Fingers responded by bringing Ragadon back and looking for replacements despite her title being "marika the eternal"
>>484305056Started at 160
>>484305737They do not line up, but the Scadutree and the Erdtree absolutely overlap
>>484305737It doesn't. I don't know why, but that map from that site is wrong. The Finger Birthing Grounds site of grace is located where it should be, just under Cathedral of Manus. It's a bit southeast of where the Erdtree would be.
>>484305817Vyke is the closest we'll get, could've had something like a "Great Rune of Madness", like he'd gotten a Great Rune before but it got corrupted by the Frenzied Flame.idk what it'd do.Gravelord Covenant but as a Great Rune
>>484302086Why are boss weapons so shit now? Out of all the bosses in the game there are like 2 good ones, the rest are meme weapons.Older games had meme boss weapons too, but the good to bad ratio was much more balanced.
>>484305056150 no skibadis, and results pending
What connection is there between the Fell God of the Giants to the Snake Gods of Messmer and Rykard? Other than fire. Are there any snakes in the mountain tops? The eye doesn't look very snakelike. Fire Giants sorceries aren't snakelike, while Rykards and Messmers both are.
>>484305978The Crucible seems innately necessary to the success of life on the planet.And she abandons it in a broken state.
>>484305339>>I will simply brainwash everyone into being happy and loving and loving me forever despite having thrown away all feelings of love in compassion as well as the ability to understand such thingsNow that I think about it, Miquella and Ranni has a lot of thematic oppositesMiquella>embraced being an Empyrian>very close to Godwyn>eager to seek a Lord Consort>brainwashes people into serving him>has to brainwash his consort>end goal is to control everyone to be more compassionate>Tarnished refuses to be embracedRanni>loathed being an Empyrian>killed Godwyn>would have went at it alone if you didn't get involved>outright admits to stealing the rune of death and still offers you the chance to serve her even if you confront her about it, no deceptions>her consort keeps following her despite her protests, at the end, she relents>end goal is to fuck off to the moon>Tarnished becomes her Lord out of free will
ooooooooooooooooooooh elden ringshatteredby someoneor something..........
>>484306292In most mythology, all Gods are related. So it's all incest. The idea being, that Gods all come from the same source / another being. You can simply not compare it to humans.
>>484306248Nah, having Bayle right next to Caelid makes more sense given Greyoll (mother of all dragons) and all the drakes there.
>>484306282That's fucking evil, brilliant
fun weapon
>>484305737Wow that really lines up perfectly if you ignore the parts that overlap and the parts that don't connect
>>484305056138 and 138 because i'm a dumb pvp retard :(
>>484306393Nothing it seems, Messmer's fire is completely unique, and isn't the fell flame. It's probably another case of the Godskin flames, which also doesn't seem that different form the fell flame. Which it wasn't, since the black flames was supposed to be what burned the Erdtree down in the original script.
>>484306568No different from how all humans derived from Adam and Eve if you want to go that route.
>>484302429It was all a huge unnecessary retcon to generate internet controversy to drive sales. From actually cucked to the shareholders on this one, that's why it feels so different.
This game is horribly optimized after the patch. I have a 4090 and I get huge frame drops. Currently on divine beast and ignoring how utterly garbage the camera is in this fight (I think From ran out of ways to increase the difficulty without blindfolding the player), its really unacceptable that I'm hitting massive pauses that eat inputs like this. I have a $4,000 computer. And you can't actually complain about this or get eyeballs about this shit because fromdrones are the most cancerous fanbase on the planet, and any criticism leveled at ER is blocked by these absolute fucking clowns
>>484306393the fell god is tied to the one great in some way, by virtue of the giants having EVERY crucible aspect on their body as opposed to just horns. I think the giants oppressed the hornsent as lesser beings, and the hornsent obsession with divinity was a form of societal cope.
there's no free will.everyone's fate is already decided, even if you're not carian.
>>484305026It's very good
What's the deal with the giant room filled with ash and a lordvessel where you fight Leda?
>>484305581>My dear consort, Come. Let us go take a thousand year voyage into the su- AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
>>484305978She's fucking right. IN fact she's the most right as her age is one that would completely abandon the whole Erdtree shit, which is for the best.Any ending where the tree remains a focus is missing the forest for the tree: the Age of the Erdtree must end. The whole point is that there is a cycle of life and death that Marika's Eternal Age was going against. Even she realized it so she set up shit to bring in new, freshly died warriors and burn the tree.The only ones really following Marika's desires are Ranni and the Frenzy Flame. But Ranni wants to let life continue whereas FF just wants everything dead/one, which is the other side of the problem.
>Two of Placidusax heads are still encrusted on the back of Bayle
For the Fire Knight Greatsword should I primarily pump dex or faith?
>>484306393the fell god is the sun anon its a dark souls reference.
>>484306713The Scadutree might have been burned in the past, just like the Erdtree was.That still is big question that From as not touched with a giant stick.
Am i wrong in my assumption that Godwyns body was over taken by an outer god of death? I mean so many things in this game tell us the bodies are basically just a vessel and without a soul to inhabit it it's just up for grabs for whatevery outside fuckery wants to take over?
>>484306865That could be.
>>484306393I think they are different powers and groups, but the Hornsent could be a possible connection to them both. The hornsent at least tell of the Fell God in their sagas according to the item droped by the wickermens.As far as Messmer goes, I think he has the Fell God's 'vision' because Marika's war against the giants (I believe) predates his birth, so he was born bearing the giant's curse (also explains his red hair color), as well as the base serpent curse. He bears curses from two different things. Melina is the same.
>>484305056125125
>>484306865possible, could explain the fishiness
Just started the game and I'm doing shit damage to margit, his first phase is doable but that continuous combos of his in phase two is a nightmare
>>484306825got a pic?
>>484306804Soo uh if just remaking the Erdtree satisfies the cycle of life and death because muh cycles, why is it so necessary for it to be totally destroyed and never remade?
>>484302919St. Trina had a fourth dialog where she thanks you for killing Miquella.
>>484305286Equip a good medium shield, Marika's Braid, and learn to parry and block. It's a fool-proof strategy
>>484306865yes, the rune bled into the ground and made deathroot when the black knives ganked godwyn so its certainly not natural
>>484306865Godwyn's symbol, the black centipede, is used by every death spell user, either it be necromancers, death birds, or mariners.He is a conduit for death magic for some reason.
>>484306652Exactly. Which is basically the same in Elden Ring. The only difference is that Adam and Eve birthed billions, while Gods are more sparse.
Phase 2 was bullshit, but I wish there was a phase 3 where you just beat the shit out of Miquella.Stupid Radahn wholesome horseman fanservice fight. Let me give this empyrean a real twink death.
>>484306860Even our own quest, and everything we did, was a gamble orchestrated by Marika.I prefer my headcanon that the player is an Outer God puppeting the ingame character after Marika imbued us with new life.
>>484306624How is it's elemental infusions
>>484306804>add the rune of death back>make Marika an obedient cocksleeve >problem solved
>>484306950Anyone got advice on this
>>484306970I have a fucking videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDunwMuEggo
>>484307059miquella did nothing wrong
>>484306939>possible, could explain the fishinessGodwyn always had a fish tail. Prove me wrong. You can't.
>>484307059We should have fought his cocoon body.
>>484306919I feel like Messmer was present during the giant war considering fire and spears are everywhere
>>484306010No way
Kind of want to cheat engine a copy of my character so I can respec him into a pvp build, but never used it before
>>4843069501. Do not dodge preemptively, you'll get caught2. L2 and R2 are your friend when it comes to big openings3. If you're really getting your ass kicked come back later when you're stronger
>About to fight Radhan>Still don't have the map piece for peru.I should probably go explore some more.
>>484295663The Hornsent accorded the numen a great honor. Marika's retaliation was fueled purely by hatred, thus making her not only morally inferior, but also a hypocrite since her godhood is entirely predicated on Hornsent rites.
>this radahn fight isn't really so bad, he only has like 4 attack patterns that aren't that hard to dodge>I don't know what everybody's complaining about>phase 2>haha, oh
>>484305776
>>484305056170 and ended somewhere around 210.Didn't even grind in the dlc
>>484303438Cute feet.
I wish Radahn would at least finish his strings when cooping but no he does a fucking 180 mid combo because fuck you nigger gaijin eat shit
>>484306938>Radahn screaming in pain >Miquellester just chilling on top Why does he even die when we kill Radahn? We should have gotten a scene where we curbstomb his femboy ass.
>>484306393Nothing explicit.The base serpent is definitely supposed to be juxtaposed with the Erdtree, with Christian Eden imagery, and its usage in destroying the tree.This was pretty clear even before "Eden" possibly appears in Miquella's cut dialogue.It's possibly some incarnation of the other half the Spira/Crucible helix, that Marika represses?It's definitely "chaotic".Personally was pretty convinced there was some connection between Gloam Queen and it, with the idea of a snake shedding its skin.Maybe related to a reptilian-esque dynasty of dragons before the mammalian human dynasty?But the timeline is again too vague to really say.Just headcanon theories.
>>484307150I was honestly kind of expecting we'd fight this fucked up giant monster man as the final boss.
>>484307223Just make a backupNot like respecs are hard to come by really
>>484306950Dodge through the swings not away from them
>>484306386I've no ideaYou can't imagine my disappointment when I found out Malenia's sword was fucking garbageIt's like Miyazaki has a fetish for boring shit weapons being good, but it's really annoying when the best weapon ever is just some fucking club or whatever
>>484305180>grasping at strawsErdtree roots are either illusory or grafted onto a real tree.
>>484305056both 150but now Im co-oping and leveling up, I still get co-ops very fast and I just want more stats for additional weapons and shit to fuck around with
>>484307407I was also hoping for a DS3 Prince of Lothric style curb stomping when we kill the host.
>>484303372The original sin is Marika becoming God I believe so I have no idea how doing the same thing is fixing that.Also the original sin makes sense if literally every problem can be traced to one event
>>484306804i've said this before but if the One Great can create the universe and all the "gods" it can do it again, melting everything back into a singularity to restart the universe isn't "pure evil" or however you guys are normally framing it just because Melina is all "muh births" are you forgetting omens and their sewer lives or something and you know tarnished, tree burials, no sex, Rya is so insecure she wants to kill herself despite doing NOTHING WRONG during this little moral quandary?starting over isn't evil.......when the world is broken.
>>484304014>DLC final boss is so shit it makes all the fan artists draw fucking Messmer/Melina instead of Miquella/MineliaJesus Christ imagine making an ending so bad that people decide to fawn over fucking Melina instead.
people love to press R1 right after getting hitwhy didn't the first riposte do any damage tho?
>Post pic/vid>We guess the fight I will start
>>484305570>xbox hueg collision box but hitbox fits its body which means if you lock on to the chest theres a very good chance you will whiff because the collision box literally keeps you from moving close enough>arms and knees make it fucking annoying to get around to hack at their shins or feetGuess they had to make them duck walk around like a partial paraplegic who never skips leg day because from wanted them to be fucking gigantic but also couldn't handle like the literal giants.
>>484303438That's quite nice
>>484305056First playthrough: 150/200Second playthrough: 138/150Third playthrough: 100/138Working on a fourth now, but I have not yet decided on the build I'll use. It will depend largely on how much stats I need to do what I want to do. Parry builds for instance don't really need levels, but are restrictive in how they're played. I think the sweet spot is about 138. You don't really need more levels, but can adjust your survivability with Skibidi fragments instead.
>>484307272Cave past the water directly north of Moorth. I really don't get how so many people miss it.>>484306973>>484307104If you're still relying on the Erdtree or thinking you can have some Golden Order without death, you're making the same mistakes Marika/the Fingers did.So long as the stupid tree is able to die and wither, the ending is relatively fine. But Ranni and FF go a step beyond by completely cutting off of it. They don't even try to mend the Ring proper, but rather take or destroy what's left of it.
>>484306713a bunch of item descriptions mentions fatecleanrot knight set, traveler's setalbinaurics being fated to dieeven miquella himself, had a fate, but he abandoned it with st trinaranni's entire journey was also predetermined, fingerslayer blade can only be wielded by those with fateiji is also certain that you will be her lord, even though you're not even supposed to follow heragain, free will is not real
>>484307586Messmer is really cool and a good boy so he deserves it.
What happens if you let yourself get grabbed twice by Miquella and then fuck off to go kill Elden Beast? Is it just the default ending?
>>484306846Dex
>>484307552>you know America is pretty shit right now> I know the solution, let's just nuke the place>people from other places will inhabit the dead lands eventually so what's the harm in that
>>484307414The base serpent could also represent Nidhoggr gnawing on the roots of the world tree Yggdrasil. Since he is a herald of Ragnarok (the war and death of the gods) it makes sense Marika would want its ass sealed.
>>484307586I think it's just that Messmer is based
>>484307653>If you're still relying on the Erdtree or thinking you can have some Golden Order without death...Stopped reading there, you understand nothing and are not worth speaking to
>>484307552The whole point of frenzy flame is NOT wanting life to restart. Life is considered a mistake in the eyes of the frenzy flame and the greater will has long since abandoned the world, there would be no remaking or starting over. Just primordial soup, a lord of frenzy and the maiden who shall grant you the death you deserved.
>>484302323https://youtu.be/3bb2OVVFWEY
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>>484307590fromsoft bug they'll never fix
>>484307747wrong analogy it would be like that futurama episode where they go passed the end loop around and land on themselves.
>>484307653>Cave past the water directly north of Moorth. I really don't get how so many people miss it.Because you try to access it from the Shadowkeep bridge instead of going around to find it.
>>484307653Bro, it doesn't fucking matter. If every age is doomed to fail and need to be replaced because muh cycles, then your ending choice is irrelevant. Ranni's age will also have to get the boot by virtue of being too old one day. Ranni is nothing special. Every ending is predicated on the Erdtree being destroyed and the GO being remade from scratch, they're all equally valid from the perspective of muh fresh start. Except the default age of fracture, I guess, but nobody chooses that one.
>people summon me for a full party boss fight on Bayle>less than 10 skibbiditree waste of my time every time
>>484307552>Nah bro, it's cool, this time we'll totally get it rightThat's retarded. Yes, suffering exists, but thinking erasing everything is the answer is dumb. Suffering is a part of life and the cycle should be left to continue so new things can come to be.
>>484304704>radahn didn't rest at the final miquella cross grace to get the extra dialogueHaha what a loser
>>484307059>but I wish there was a phase 3 where you just beat the shit out of Miquella.very based, make it so he doesn't even attack
>>484307297Kek
>>484305978Nothing really changed aside from learning that Carian woman are crazy for love. The only real conundrum around her quest that the DLC introduced is why she needed the Fingerslayer Blade, but that's not a huge deal. If anything, the DLC only justified her ending even more.
>>484307590there's a bug where if you get hit just as you go into a riposte the riposte will do no damage
>>484302086I played exclusively with this weapon the moment I beat the boss that dropped it and beat the DLC with it. "Shit" or not, I will stand by this weapon for pure style alone.
>>484305956We know it was not necessary. St Trina tells us he only did it so he wouldn't be like his mom once he ascended.
>>484307615phase 2 lol
Every blessing a curse, every curse a cursed blessing
>>484306185yeah, it's always interesting tracking how culture disseminates
>>484307953what attributes are you using?
>>484307803life wasn't the mistake it was the endless iteration of EVERY curse after Marika broke the "wheel" after GW gave her power, which WAS THE MISTAKE.>>484307889>you should suffer in a fictional world with immortal god powers because the human condition?
>>484305978Your ending is still shit, in fact even worse now if we take into account Ymir. Ranni is still a cuntRanni still deserves eternal torment for what she did to Godwyn and any person that ended up as a TWLID
bayle is harder than sensexSwitching to full heatproof armor and shield
>>484307931Ranni looks really cool here
>>484307552if you want to burn yourself alive, go for it but leave the rest of the world (and by extension, me) out of it
You ever notice sometimes your feet leave the ground for the startup of a roll but you still get hit?
>>484308056of course bayle's harder, what were you expecting?
>>484307414I think making your two eldest? children cursed with the abilities and antithesis of your religion and erdtree is meant to be symbolic and sad.Messmer is her favorite and he has the serpent while Meillina has the GEQ in her eye and burns herself to burn the tree down.The entire dlc doesn't have fuck to do with Miquellla and everything to do with Marika.Godwyn seems really important as he's the only non cursed child and is rotting the world.100% the dlc was rewritten in the worst way possible
>>484305056Started at 90 ended at 180.
Messmer's snake is kinda cute.
>Boss finishes his 12 hit attack combo>I go in for a quick stab>Input reads and swings, knocking me up in the air>"Damn, I got greedy."
i've been playing the DLC and I've had to summon mimic tear for every boss except blackgaol knight
>>484307683miquella attempted to abandon his fate but he failed. he was fated to never become a god, and we fulfilled that fate. the ending cutscene and the details of his vow make more sense in that context.
>>484306846faith for flame art
>>484308159Messmer is kind of cute in general.
you know what I don't think you guys get it at all and just insist your interpretation and>>484308131I don't mean irl you fucking psychopaths im talking about lore. remind me never to talk HYPOTHETICAL metaphysics from a video game with you again this is fucking insufferable bullshit.
>>484308056I mean likeYeah?He's the main boss of the area, why would he be easier?
>>484308245Thanks chief, I will Larval Tear asap.
>>484305978>the solitude beyond the night is better mine alone
>>484306865I brought up something similar. That the Shaman flesh of Marika's people dwelling in her children could be the reason why Godwyn's deathblight spread into the Erdtree and by extension the remains of the crucible entered into him turned him into a fish.Someone else also took a theory that Shaman flesh is also attracting outer god curses
>>484307865No, you also got Perfect Order fags like >>484307771 probably is that don't seem to get that the Erdtree and the Golden Order are part of the problem and need to be purged entirely.Really, I'm mainly shitting on Goldmaskfags here that think their autist has it all right cause he's so smart to just "remove the gods and we're all good for eternity".It's a niave view that's missing the whole cycle. The "Perfect Order" is an impossiblity. The fickleness of the gods in his eyes was Marika's folly, but the truth is she was right in turning away from the Golden Order. Kindness of Gold without Order is way better than a perfect Order that ignores the rot and withering that will inevitably come.
>+25 dryleaf arts>fgms + golden vow>charged R2>886 damageWhat am I doing wrong?
>>484308004>after GW gave her power, which WAS THE MISTAKE.Except the DLC reveals the GW never gave her shit.
>>484308249So are you
>>484307994I was using primarily strength with a bit of dex and faith for buffs as I was a Guard Counter build before I picked up the weapon.
honestly, fuck that nigga bayle
>>484307803the mistake is free will anon.
Rennala doesn't even that bad so far, but every swing she does stutters my frames pretty bad. What the fuck
Bullying Miquella.Making provocative remarks about Malenia in front of him.Casting Law of Regression after he casts a buff.Getting rot in his hair.Snapping his needles.Picking him up by his ankles and dropping him into a swamp.
>>484308269*like you're going to have a go at me if I play a chaotic evil character in DnD because you think that IS me not a character, you guys suck major balls and have no imagination, i've said this twice today.>>484308371>dlc retcons-getting real fucking tired of hearing that line too.
>>484308159So are you
>>484308387but did you modify your build for it or are you just using it like that
>>484308371You didnt read right then, the GW eventually abandoned Marika but it was there at first. It sent Metyr and EB.
What the fuck are the Divine Lion and the Divine Bird that the Tower people worshipped?
>>484302086go all in on int and just use the mainhand. i think the mainhand only scales with int, offhand only with faith. unless that youtuber lied to me. but actually its not a bad weapon for lvl 200 anyways. Its real problem is the WA is too slow for most DLC bosses.
The true hero if the lands between.
Jesus Christ, why do fire knights have a lot of health?
>>484308359Marika's fickleness is her shattering the elden ring in a fit of rage because of Godwyn's death, you know, the whole plot of the game? This whole "dude what if good thing bad because... because it just is, ok? we need to destroy things on purpose to fix what isn't broken" message is pseud as fuck anyway.
My waif like drugs and rape.
>>484308461I didn't modify it much, no. It scales with everything, so I primarily started leveling dex since my strength was already pretty decent.
>>484306467Best girl since day one and the DLC didn't change that.
>Seamless allows invasions now>Try it>Invade in the fucking Stranded Graveyard, right after the tutorial, not even the dungeon next to it>Parry a wizard right after they leave the tutorial areaThis is the funniest possible thing Seamless could have done and I'm glad they did it.
how do I beat bayle?I summon igon and 2 other guys and we all run away after our flasks are empty trying to heal with those sun stones
>>484308236>he was fated to never become a god, and we fulfilled that fate.that's not it, he did obtain godhood>Remembrance of a God and a Lord>The strength of Miquella upon his deific return, wielded as an incantation.>The circlet of light which adorned Miquella's head as he returned in divine aspect.
>>484308510i mean other than str/dex, the spellcasting stat. i know i have to say this or autistic people will throw a shit fit and point out it scales with str/dex too. i know, i know
>>484308510i'm not gonna use it only onehandedif i wanted that i'd just use milady
>>484308559I'm sad about how fucking horrible she is, but I do like that she does have voice lines
>>484305512No proof of control. Stop with this bullshit
>>484308616Summoning two dudes on top of Igon turns Bayle into a fifteen minute raid boss, I highly recommend fighting him with just Igon.
>>484307993It is. And as a Christian I'm actually kinda pleased by it, if that makes sense. Like I know the vast majority of Japanese people are basically atheist but knowledge of my faith reaches even there. Even if it went through a game of telephone on the way lol.
>>484308415Even if you want to say it is free will opposed to life,>And so, what was borrowed must be returned.>Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.>Until all is One againThe solution to the problem of free will/suffering isn't removing suffering, it is removing life. Melting everything down into one thing. The plan is NOT "restart life" it is "remove suffering by removing life entirely"
>>484308540the Golden Order was never good though
>>484306865>I mean so many things in this game tell us the bodies are basically just a vessel and without a soul to inhabit it it's just up for grabs for whatevery outside fuckery wants to take over?So Marika needs a Lord to bring her back from the God gate, divests Radagon who is a soulless shell and the Snake God gets in, then eventually Marika takes Radagon back into herself and has snake cursed babies.
>>484308493Divine Lion are dancers puppeting to call back to some kind of divine lion species that could control the weather.Possibly the arena lions we encounter throughout the game are descendants of those divine lions since they got the horns and can like spew ice breath and shit.Divine bird is probably a similar deal, though I don't think there's a direct example except maybe the Twinbird?Point is, they're animals blessed by the Crucible with divine power.
>>484308616avoid his attacks and hit him during the openings
>>484308346it would make sense that divinity + whatever malleability shamans have made them the perfect vessels for entities to latch on to.
>>484308726Wrong.
>>484308616Summon Igon and a spirit ash or summon Igon and max out the dragon slaying sword you just got if you want to make it easier
i haven't completed the DLC yetdoes my wife appear in it?
>484308616Use the dragon-slaying great katana and summon Igon and you'll have an easy W
>>484308646yes he honoured his vow by abandoning his fate and becaming a god. then he immediately died. you can't sidestep fate, it'll just 180 right back to you and correct course.
>>484308726Yes it was. Everything was good until Godwyn died, and if it wasn't for the GO humans would still be living in the asscrack of the north living like demihumans that looked at stars.
>>484307059>kill Radahn>don't get to crit Miquella like when you knock a knight off their horse
>>484308417Rellana* especially the second phase
>>484308540>Marika's fickleness is her shattering the elden ring in a fit of rage because of Godwyn's death, you know, the whole plot of the game?>He still thinks the cover story is the truthFaggot, maybe play the game and look into shit deeper. Marika didn't just throw a fit and break the Ring on an emotional whim. Shit was planned since long ago and she called Radagon a literal bitch before she broke it so he couldn't control her anymore.
I don't care. I could've kept banging my head on a wall for the next however many hours and it would "click" sooner or later, but then what? l wouldn't even feel happy or satisfied, just glad it's over and I can do something else.So why bother. He had antspur + fingerprint btw
>>484308880Why that katana?
>>484305754>Rykard isn't even the original snekSeriously why introduce another completely different snake that's so lame, just expand on the shit you already started in the base game.
>>484308739Man should would be nice if the Crucible was ever properly explained>>484308875No and is ruined as a character
>>484308659alterantives: still only go for int, and only use int WA vice versa faithor just go str/dex
>>484308602>Everyone ditches base game for Seamless to escape the red man>They added Redman's into SeamlessHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>484308976>I don't care>writes a cope post
I think being brainwashed by Miquella would feel warm and cozy.
>>484308421Bratty shota needs correction!
>>484308739the implication of the lions is grim because they were originally meant to be fought inside the colosseums. they're an intentional desecration of hornsent culture, the imprisonment and slaughter of their divine beasts for gladiatorial entertainment.
>>484308967>Hey faggot maybe [pay attention to my reddit headcanon]Didn't ask, bitch.
>>484309051Leda please
>>484309004The Crucible, among many other things.
>>484309063I recommend repeatedly slamming his head in a door.
>>484308739Twinbird's the envoy of "an Outer God" so it's closer to the Elden Beast more than anything.
This general overestimates the fingers, which makes Marika look more stupid and infantile. We don't really know how the Marika/Finger alliance started and what the terms are. We just know that is soured at some point, hence the empyreans. Most of the finger lore in this game is related to the tarnished, the hold, and the fingers giving tarnished incantations and other things to make a tarnished elden lord.
>>484308986Read the weapon description
ok no skibidis run no summons is done, yes i cheesed the fuck out of radahn with shieldpoking
>>484308421That's cruel.>>484309051Agreed.
>>484305978Imagine going through all the shit Miquella did just to get shat on by some random tarnished.Meanwhile Ranni just sits in her tower and waits for the tarnished to come talk to her and solve all her problems. It's that easy, stupid twink faggot had to go and make shit complicated like a complete retard.
>>484305754>>484309002eiglay is the reincarnation of the immortal snake anon, its death speech is the snake gloating over its immortality and how rykard was a dumbass for trying to puppeteer its body.
>>484309146>I recommend repeatedly having him deepthroat youKinky
>>484308932Radagon was a No Fun allowed asshole who could even provide tree blessings because the Erdtree was all out of juice.Godfrey's era is seen as the golden age of the GO, but it faded fast.
>>484309219>Ranni just sits in her tower and waits for the tarnished to come talk to her and solve all her problems.That's just how women are, Anon. Lazy, incompetent, manipulative and only good for access to their holes.
Took me 30 minutes (approximately 12 tries) using the Deflecting Tear + Carian Thrusting Shield with Scholar's Shield, playing solely around perfect blocks + guard counters (no summons). The shield was infused with Cold and Frostbite did a shitton of damage.Honestly I literally felt like I was playing Sekiro, the Deflecting Tear made the fight very fun. Thanks for subscribing to my blog.
>>484301951weapon base damage bwo
>>484309139The crucible is the least explained thing in the game.It is mentioned on so many items, armors, spells, and ashes but is the most vague and nebulously defined thing lore wise.Chaos and the fingers has more lore
>we never get an answer for what the fuck this actually wasFuck Miyazaki.
>>484309051I imagined it feeling like a really cold needle sliding through the top of my head.Not like stabbing but I mean like how ghosts passing though you would make you cold, that but if they passed their hand through your head and it cooled you down and cleared your thoughts of anyrhing scary or harmful or stressful
>>484309051About as comfy as a lobotomy.>>484309208Casting Stone of Gurranq on Miquella.
>>484309324Too bad Ranni's real body is unsexable
>>484308951all of my problems with the dlc would go away if they would've done this
>>484309328>He got grabbed.You didn't beat the game.
>>484308846that's a katana and I hate those, any alternative swords?
>>484309324Miquellla is also a failure as a man and his doesn't even try to strike up a conversation about Torrent
>>484309440...for you.
>>484308217Me too except Dung Eater
>>484309440says who?
>>484309440pringles can
>>484309004>Man should would be nice if the Crucible was ever properly explainedif it makes you feel better, one of the DLC items implies through context clues that not only are there multiple crucibles, but there is a progenitor "mother of crucibles" that is likely an AYYLMAO like metyr.so the hornsent "crucible" could literally just be a singular horn-themed crucible alien that they worshipped, with multiple other crucible-themed aliens in the lands between.
>>484308951>>484307059For me it's the militia manlet backstab animation.
>>484309440>
>>484309219>Ranni just sits in her tower and waits for the tarnished to come talk to her and solve all her problemsNo, she was waiting for Blaidd to find the finger slaying blade and had to take the Ranni nap for awhile.
>>484309553The GOAT summon desu
>>484301792Rannie canonic ending
>>484309004>No and is ruined as a characteri'm not gonna ask for details but i hope you're trolling me
>>484309485No, the weapon was designed to kill dragons and the art does more damage against them.Read the damn weapon.
What's Miquella's tax policy?How is it different from Marika's?
>>484309397a sack of jarflesh maybe?
>>484309473I think it was the first time he used that attack, I had no idea what it does tbqh... I almost got grabbed a second time too
>>484308004>And so, what was borrowed must be returned.>Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.>Until all is One againnope.The mistake is life/free will/self, however you wish to categorize it. The frenzy flame is never once said that it will restart everything. No, everything related to the flame of frenzy is that it will burn everything down to one thing.>Burn the Erdtree to the ground,>and incinerate all that divides and distinguishes.>And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. Until all is One again> As one who strives to become a Lord, deny not the lives, the new births of this world. Those who would are not fit to be called Lord. When the land they preside over is lifeless.> It is chaos, devouring life and thought unending. However ruined this world has become, however mired in torment and despair, life endures. Births continue.>We beg of you, incinerate all that divides and distinguishesThe point of the frenzied flame ending is you are burning everything down into one thing. There is no remaking it. You are ending life and the concept of self. The solution to get rid of suffering is removing life from the equation by making everything into one.May chaos take the world.
>>484309743https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuNLtNApci4You almost died.
>>484309674She delivered a message and then takes a nap. Then you kill her. Lol.
>>484300698Blaid was gifted to Renala and became Ranni's shadow. The questions are 'gifted by whom' and 'why was he so special that he could become a shadow'. It can't be just because he's half-man/half-beast. That's why it's more likely that he has shadow and/or Empyrean blood. He's Marika and Maliketh's child.
>>484309146>>484309425Pre-DLC Miquella is still the most pure Lands Between character. You're just being a bully.>>484309526>Mind controls people because he's socially awkwardI can see it. He's definitely the nerd type who spend all his time in his room thinking about story, incantations and unalloyed gold.
>>484308806>>484308932>>484309097>Still in denial when we get the words of Marika directly and then multiple instances of others pointing out the rot within the Golden OrderNot my fault you retards can't actually get into the lore that's written right in front of you.Not even just esoteric item text. Just straight up voiced lines telling you that shit is fucked and Marika planned shit out. The timeline of her lingering words is pretty obvious.Start of her age:>The Erdtree governs all. The choice is thine. Become one with the Order. Or divest thyself of it. To wallow at the fringes; a powerless upstart.> Hark, brave warriors. Hark, my lord Godfrey. We commend your deeds. Guidance has delivered ye through ordeal to the place ye stand. Put the giants to the sword and confine the flame atop the mount. Let a new epoch begin. An epoch glistening with life. Brandish the Elden Ring, for the Age of the Erdtree!Realizing shit is wrong:>I declare mine intent, to search the depths of the Golden Order. Through understanding of the proper way, our faith, our grace, is increased. Those blissful early days of blind belief are long past. My comrades; why must ye falter?Plans to end the age:>My Lord, and thy warriors. I divest each of thee of thy grace.With thine eyes dimmed, ye will be driven from the Lands Between. Ye will wage war in a land afar, where ye will live, and die.>Then, after thy death, I will give back what I once claimed.Return to the Lands Between, wage war, and brandish the Elden Ring.Grow strong in the face of death. Warriors of my lord. Lord Godfrey.>Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...Before shattering the ring:>O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.
>>484309593I always thought the Crucible was an element of ancient life force so now it's confirmed to be an object or creature?It still seems to be some kind of energy that warps things
The hornsent deserved it
>>484309664sorry anon, there's only rope underneath that dress
>>484309158There is no alliance, the Fingers are basically making shit up because there's nothing coming from GW.They're going along with Marika's plan for the Tarnished because they think it'll fix things but it isn't like they discussed anything beforehand.The Empyrean stuff is from when GW still communicated with the Fingers and they were actually active and preaching.
>>484308875No. Malenia is never mentioned besides one description and and an off handed comment, but no, she is not ruined as a character besides Miquella x Malenia being shot down.
Imagine being a boss in this game just chilling in your room while the same nigga just keeps running in 100+ times trying to kill you.
>>484309664She became a mousepad?!
>host and summon both using the spark exploit in pve>dodge it every time and keep poking them down>summon starts spamming miquella's light>doing it an awful lot>notice he isn't using any FP flasks and doesn't have the infinite FP effect from physick>dodge around for a bit while he keeps spamming it and the other keeps trying to spark me>20 lights later he STILL hasn't had to stop>pull out shotel and madness staff and watch them start panic rolling>both turn into treesI cannot imagine being so horrendously dogshit at this game that you not only need to spam the oneshot spark exploit but then need to give yourself infinite fucking fp
>>484309843Marika is beyond based
Would more of you be willing to use summons if they had battle dialogue?
>>484309382Yeah I still can't entirely wrap my head around it. I guess it's supposed to be a representation of primal life and nature.
It just occurred to me but Romina is called a saint, huh? Since she so easily fused herself with a centipede and a scorpion, it makes me think she was actually a shaman like Marika, maybe just one who got Stockholm'd into the Hornsent's side? Then again she does guard the tree sealing the divinity gate so maybe she was on Marika's side all along.
>>484309959Kek
>>484308710I would hold off on being pleased by it because Japs use it in ways you probably don't approve of. Like Adam and Steve instead of Adam and Eve for example and they've done that in more than one occasion. I mean even ER is an example of that too.
>>484309897Oh thank you anonI suppose better that than something bade
>>484309959She already becomes a funko pop so it's not impossible
>>484309861They deserved worse desu
>>484309746still the go to ending for edgy faggots
So what the fuck is that thing Marika pulls the golden threads out of in the story trailer?
The Secret Rite Scroll is kind of a weird thing to write in-universe. Who the fuck needed to be reminded "btw MAKE SURE that your husband has a body"
>>484301792Why is the community like this now?
You know what would have made this much more impactful? If any of this lore were exposed more in-depth outside of a few item descriptions or ghosts saying 3 lines.
>>484310021Absolutely
>>484309807>miquella has such bad breath that it kills you if you get hit by it twiceThat's canon
>>484310021BAYLE
>>484310143Unironically cut content.
>>484310028>st Trina is the only character referred to as Saint in the base gameWhoa...
>>484310153Fromsoft went mainstream
>>484309285>No fun allowedRadagon was the one synthesizing everything heretical into the GO>>484309843>rot within the Golden OrderThe average person did fine under the GO, don't really care that Marika got catfished into a bad deal. The masses were doing well, and that's what matters. I don't care that she got trapped into a deal, you reap the consequences of stealing your godhood from the hornsent and their tower.
>>484310175You can't really expect his breath to smell great when you know that he's basically just a cum receptacle for a rotting corpse raping his mouth.
>>484310153Twinks who talk like that deserve nothing
>>484310101Yeah. If you're going to go the frenzy flame, then accept you're an edgelord who is destroying life because suffering exists. Don't try to spin it into some "oh I'm going to remake the world!" no, you're ending it permanently.
>>484309894Empyrean also makes no sense now considering Marika's race were called shamans and had the ability to meld.Like what the fuck is an Empyrean then?Is it an actual race or just something that the fingers randomly decide to call potential successors?I'm amazed at the DLC making what was a pretty easy and coherent lore into a confusing fucking mess
>>484310157This one place with like 3 lines of text talking about it is enough to make people cry. There's literally no reason for Miyazaki to put any effort.
>>484309219ranni>doing things for the right reasons, takes any help she can get, things work out for herMarika>prefers Godfrey but accepts the tarnished winningmiquella>wants to become god so he can fulfill his gay fantasy with Radahn instead of going with the tarnished as an easier optionmiquella got what he fucking deserved
>>484307885Skibidi levels have singlehandedly raped any hope of cooperating. Every host is a subhuman South American/Indian/Chinese/Whatever shitskin with 30000000 ping internet who has at most 3 blessings. Good co-op is just fucking dead.
>>484310263Yeah and she fuses with a flower too
>>484310153Not enough gatekeeping
>>484310021>CUUUUURSE YOOOOOOU, BAAAAAYLE!Damn straight. The final battle with Leda and co. was hype as fuck.
>>484310330From was never going to let us marry the eternal shota
>>484309807That's such a bullshit attack. Truly. I don't know how you can argue otherwise.
>>484310026That's how I always viewed it which is why I don't understand why they don't just throw us a fucking bone and give some explanation
>>484310021I tend to use summons where ever it's narratively applicable. Like I won't summon some rando NPC my dude has no connection to, but I will summon a story important one. Like if this boss has really fucked over an NPC, and that NPC has asked to be summoned, I'll probably do it, but if it's somebody like Iron Tarkus, probably not.
>>484308875>>484309897>>484310079I don't think it ruined her character, though it did make her actions less... impressive I guess?Basically the one new bit about her we get is that she fought Radahn purposefully to kill him as part of some promise to Miquella that he'd be his consort, presumably only after he died in glorious battle. The line we get about her is that the thing she whispered to him in the original Elden Ring story trailer before the rot explosion was "Miquella awaits thee, O promised consort."So she literally was fighting to kill him so he could fuck her brother. But she couldn't even finish the job.
>>484310143>>484310224Wasn't it the divine gateway?
>>484310330Mohg typed this
>>484310338That's the exact same reason why I stopped helping people with bosses too.. People are retarded and deserve to be stuck and prevented from progressing.
>>484310321It probably just a fancy title.You're either chosen, like Ranni and Marika or you're automatically conferred the title via divine parthenogenesis like Miquella and Malenia.
>>484310021Yeppers
>>484310148The secret rite scroll is not just that, it's the entire process to become a god the same way Marika did.A better question is why did she write it down and if she didn't why didn't she burn it instead of leaving it in a fucking library where her favorite son lives?
Hornsent also have empyreans
Radahn's second phase is such a mistake but fuck his first phase too>completely random additional attack string>completely random second lion's claw >the meteor move that's easy as fuck to avoid but wastes time >a lot of the moves having almost no punish windowIt's such a gay basis for a boss and topping it off with the light show just makes it dogshit to play, I honestly had high hopes for the final boss of this DLC
>>484310143>So what the fuck is that thing Marika pulls the golden threads out of in the story trailer?The Elden Ring, duh. That's her stealing it from the Crucible and making the Erdtree.
>>484310490Turned her into a fujoshi, so yes. It did.
>>484310321Shaman might be a title, not a race. They might have been exclusively female too.
>>484310653name one
>>484310653any named ones?
>>484310472If I wanted to give them maximum credit, it could be on purpose since we can only guess at what primitive pre-civilization cultures did. But that's being generous, it just feels underexplained for what it is. It's not even something that's clearly in the past either
Okay faggots, let's settle this.>https://poal.me/jpqq7khttps://poal.me/jpqq7k>https://poal.me/jpqq7khttps://poal.me/jpqq7k
>>484309821Marika is furry lmao
Please change your votes to yes
>>484310639messmer is a nerd who couldn't bare to burn information
>>484310471Just kill the Scadutree Avatar and then equip and use Miquella's Great Rune that you get to be immune to the attack.https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Miquella's+Great+Rune
>>484309843godwyn trannies will still cope, seethe, and try to deny Marika was in on it and that she shattered it out of pure emotion
>>484310272>The average person did fine under the GOThe point is they didn't. As she said, they were faltering. We also get clear item descriptions describing how the Erdtree USED to give blessed sap and shit but it had started to dry up and stop doing so.>It was once thought that the blessed sap of the Erdtree would drip from its boughs forever—but that age of plenty swiftly came to a close, and with time, the Erdtree became more an object of faith.Removing Death from the equation didn't remove the way things can decay, go mad, dry up, etc. It just removed the release of it. That's the problem Marika realized in her Golden Order and why she set things up to burn the tree, and why she sent Godfrey and the Tarnished away so they could die and becomes stronger.
>>484310721hornsent grandam>An entreaty received from the Empyrean grandam.
>>484310153What did they say?I have a lot of complaints about the DLC?Also I do think the community is Pokemon levels combined with Bethesda of cock sucking and delusion.Tired of being told that because the best player in the world can no hit a boss despite said player saying moves of horseshit and has two use specific arts and talismans to avoid said move it means that the boss is fair.
>>484310721>>484310723The moping Granny is called one in the spell she gives you. Might have been a From oversight, because the Hornsent were all originally called Empyereans before they changed it.
>>484310721>>484310723>An entreaty received from the Empyrean Grandam.READ>oh but its not true 2 years in the making, they wouldn't make mistakes
What attacks would they have? Moon spamming? Pillars of Comet Azure from the sky?
>>484310787Miquella is real. You're right.
>>484310962Yaaay
>>484310490I wanted only hints so I'm not gonna read the spoilers but that's sad to hear
>>484309842>Pre-DLC Miquella is still the most pure Lands Between character.Miquella is Miquella, pre or post-DLC. A child put on a pedestal resulting in developing a savior complex and biting off more than anyone could chew. Empathetic, but naive, he does everything in his power to try to make the world a better place, for better or worse. In the end he hurts many others, but especially himself, until he is unrecognizable from the kind little boy he started as.A sweet little thing responsible for horrible atrocities. Prime bullying material.
>>484310153Soulless chinks and normies infestation.
>>484310847This boss is SUCH bullshit
Morgott... had a hard life.He's still best boy.
>>484310737My main problem is that so many enemies have something to do with it and I bet it's mentioned on at least 50 fucking things.Like it's so prevalent it's like if they didn't explain what the fucking golden order was
>>484311065BAYLE HAD A HARD LIFE
>>484310773Radahn loved his horse so much that he learned gravity magic. And even in his scarlet rotted mind where he resorted to cannibalism, Leonard is still unharmed. If the vow was truly consensual, then Leonard, in some way shape or form, would be present in his resurrection.
>>484311048You can jump over his thorn bullshit, made things really easy.
>>484311065Morgott's such a Chad it makes me wonder what Mohg was like before Miquella made him drink his bathwater.
>>484310950Something like this.
>>484311065Godfrey returning was such an asspull
>>484310852No evidence that Marika wanted Godwyn to die or for Ranni to kill Godwyn. Considering she did illogical things like make the minor erdtree that heals no one, it makes it seem more like his death was the straw that broke the camel's back even if she had other plans going on.
>>484310852Yeah, I don't get that. If anything, it makes Godwyn cooler if he willingly let himself become the Prince of Death to help his mom's plans.It explains how a bunch of random numen women were able to do this to him when he FUCKS DRAGONS. And his Finger Crone literally weeps about how he was supposed to be a martyr that would die a true death, but Ranni fucked up the ritual with her own shit causing the split where Godwyn's corpse got left as a gross mess.
>1000 years of compassion vs 1000 years of headpatsYeah...sorry Miquella or as I call you Lil Micky...that's a no from me...
>>484311048Here's a hint, buddy.. It's a plant. Use fire. It shreds the boss like you would not believe.
best Shield in the game : Fingerprint or Verdigris?
Bayle was an insurrectionist
>>484310950I turn into a moon while I dodge roll and it deals damage.
>>484309843Yes, retard, she planned to overthrow the Two Fingers. But then Ranni happened, and Marika flipped the table in rage. Her new desire is for the world to burn forever.>But when Gideon glimpsed into the will of Queen Marika, he shuddered in fear. At the end that should not be. >I commend your spirit, but alas, none shall take the throne. Queen Marika has high hopes for us. That we continue to struggle. Unto eternity.>Melina: There is something I'd like to say. My purpose was given to me by my mother. But now, I act of my own volition. I have set my heart upon the world that I would have. Regardless of my mother's designs [in reference to her choosing to still guide you towards the Elden Throne, implying Marika wants the tree to stay burnt forever]."Marika planned Godwin's death" is the OG rannifag reddit cope for their waifu doing a bad thing which they can't mentally handle
totalhornsentdeathMarika supremacy
>>484311216>shown in the opening cinematic as being risen from the dead and having grace returned>major part of the promo art for the game>you fight a ghost version of himNah, it was obviously going to happen.
Why does Miquella have 4 arms?
>>484311287Carian Thrusting Shield.
>>484311195ambitious, if nothing else
>>484311163What in the reddit is this argument
Are great katanas broken? I seem like they dont hit me when they should sometimes
>>484311426Buddha/Brahman allegory or something.
>>484311195He probably still had the blood and murder cult going, he would still be guided by the Formless Mother after all
Miyazaki literally just made hornsent jews and made it clear that they deserved it hu
>>484310868You're taking the absence of blessing as the presence of misery. People pray today and get nothing, and they're still happy. Almost every single NPC ghost in the game like the ones around Leyndell are not cursing the erdtree, quite the contrary.
>>484311426medieval alchemical symbolism or some shit.
>>484311558*chinese
IMAGINE burning Melina before doing the DLC and missing out on her extra dialogue. Instant brick.
>>484301792I want this with sellen... her hanging off your body with her big ass stone head can give you extra poise at the cost more weight.
>>484311426Why does Ranni have 4 arms?
>Flame of Frenzy ending if you are edgy and just wants to see everything burn>Ranni ending if you are selfish and wants to fuck off to the moon with a waifu>Goldmask ending if you want to claim moral superiority over others>Dungeater ending if you're extra edgy instead of burning it all down, you want to curse everyone>Fia ending if you got waifu baited by Fia, thinking it's gonna be her you're getting with>Basic bitch Elden Lord ending if you suck at the game
>>484304075Ah, you did do Ranni's questline, right? With Rogier and Fia? They explain everything, and Ranni did it all.
>>484311631Big if true. What does she say?
what are the lore implications of this
>>484311631>tfw didn't rest at most graces because I didn't want enemies to respawn>missed all Melina interactionscool
>>484311686I'm not edgy, it is just the coolest cinematic ending ):
>>484311631Yeah I saw the ziostorm video too
>>484311682Her doll body is modelled on her mentor.So now the question is why does her mentor have 4 arms.
>>484305428Radagon is her brother-in-law, not actually related, so Messmer is also not related to her, you fucking moron.
>>484311631You just had the three fingers burn you and Melina is about to diss you
>>484311786HIs skirt is extremely feminine and form fitting
>>484311809it would be way cooler if they fucking explained what the fuck is up with Melina
>>484308875>>484311017Other than what has already been said, there's actually quite a few more bits relating to her through her aspect as a Rot Goddess. Pay attention to some item descriptions relating to rot or anything relating to the forager brood (the guys that look like the kindred of rot). I won't say much more as it'd be spoilering.
bayle is the protagonist of the dlc by popular opinion.I just wish he was the hardest boss.
The DLC gets stale once you figure out the pattern.> rush through shitty paths or open world to reach boss>realize map region is 95% empty and boss is pretty much the only significant thing.Did Putrescent Knight, that whole area? Pretty much just him. It's not even a dungeon. I liked clearing Belurat. But Fissure I was just clearly pushed to running past all those Bloodfiends, Skeletons and Slimes.Gaius? Kill him. Then realize two whole fucking plateaus are dedicated to his arena + 5 Scoobydoo fragments.
I bet renalla and ranni feel so dumb worshiping the moons when all there were was jus the closest of celestial objects.
Godwyn simps... the Ranni fags are at it again. Don't let them get away with this.
>>484311339>>484311227Ranni did fuck it up, but she did so in the middle of Marika's intent to have Godwyn die. His crone spells it out, he was meant for true death. And Marika was clearly calm when she shattered the ring given how she called Radagon a bitch who doesn't control her yet.Ranni was the one that got her hands on Destined Death and made the knives, but the plan was for her to give them to the Black Knives to kill Godwyn and have him die true.The part she fucked with is that she kept one for herself and used it at the same time so that the death mark would be split between her and Godwyn letting her discard her flesh.Marika still went forward with her deal and shattered the Ring, because that was the plan all along. She may or may not have liked what Ranni did, but given her message to her children about becoming what they like or being sacrifices, she probably was fine with it.
>>484311426It looks cool
>>484311786medjed is such a qt
Say something nice about my tarnished please.
>>484311882This is true for the base game as well. Who still fights every enemy or clears out meaningless dungeons for ashes they'll never use?
>>484311913there are godwyn simps?
>>484311771
So the new meta is 166 since it lets you invade 150 and 200, which are the two biggest cutoffs post DLC?
>>484310153If you're talking about 4chan, it's shit because of fags like you who post ragebait twitter screenshots from actual nobodies
>>484312003you look like a fucking loser
>>484310950Ranni lets you struggle for entertainment for a bit, then snaps her fingers and insta kills the enenmy like when you try to roofie her
>>484312003I want to peench her cheekies
>>484312003>femcel armor
>>484312041>she knowsBros, are we cooked?
>>484312003Messmer will never fuck you.
>what if the boss was... le TWO bossesEldeno ringu is my first souls game and fighting 2 watchdogs was very unfun, but as soon as i managed to kill one then the other literally couldn't touch me
WAKE THE FUCK UP, MIQUELLA. WERE CRASHING DOWN FROM ORBIT
>>484312057Thank you. That settles it for me when making builds from now on.
>>484310330>Marika>>prefers Godfrey but accepts the tarnished winningDoubt it honestly
>>484312203Imagine his dick pressing against your back as you ride a comet together
I wish the St. Trinia animation didn't take so long. It takes fucking forever to do the 6 deaths on a second playthrough.
>>484312203Miquella threw away his fear. He'll be fine.
>>484312191>what if the boss was... le TWO bossesYou'd better get fucking used to it.Crystal Darts would have turned one against the other by the way.
>>484310884That's pretty much what was said:GOODS>Map design - aesthetics are enchanting and gorgeous, "breathtaking">Enemy appearance - bosses are unique and have elegant movesets that are pleasant to look at>NPCs are good - Love the unique dialogues in the fights. Love Igon, Thiollier, Ymir and Sir AnsbachBADS>Complained about collecting 50 fragments, said it ruins the joy of exploration>Bosses act like rabid dogs with endless combos and full-screen aoe.>Unsatisfying plot>First impresions are decent, but doesn't have much replayability value>Thinks the DLC was overhyped by the community since it got 2 years in development, but the results aren't satisfactory either>Posted picture of Lorian and Lothric, called Radahn and Miquella a cheap (worse) knockoff and can't believe it took 2 years for them to come up with this>Tired of being told that because the best player in the world can no hit a boss despite said player saying moves of horseshit and has two use specific arts and talismans to avoid said move it means that the boss is fair.I've read this shit more than once and yeah that's retarded. "They said Radahn was impossible but then I beat him with a dueling shield easily"
>>484310950>Comet Azur, except you can run around and fight because Ranni is the one channeling itDamn that's spicy
>>484311786>miquella was an ancient egyptian queen all alingquick someone call vaati
So was all the lore for this dlc thought up at the last minute
>>484310847I like that he's just a dead sunflower.
>>484312268Radahn got to feel this
>>484311148I agree. Like it's obviously very important to Godfrey and the Crucible Knights. The presence of Crucible Knights in Farum Azula and the Eternal Cities suggest they were important to previous civilizations and ages. Not to mention them going rogue when Godfrey was banished yet staying in Lands Between, despite the implication that Godfrey was their leader. So does that means Godfrey's Badlands warriors are actually separate entity from the Crucible? And is the Crucible related to the Misbegotten and Demi-Humans? I enjoy speculating but fuck me they give you do little for the Crucible.>>484311216He's literally in the intro of the game.>>484311287I wish Guilty Gear didn't have such a cancerous fanbase because godDAYUM are the bitches hot as fuck.
>>484312191One of the first widely praised bossfights they ever did was a duo with two mismatched enemies where the arena was designed to help you separate them and the second phase was a powered up version of whichever you didn't kill first.They have not made a good double boss since.
>>484311786Egyptian/Med themed souls when
>red dancer and blue dancer>red flowers in Charo's grave and blue flowers in the Cerulean coast>crimson hood and navy hood>red flask and blue flaskTHE COLORSWHAT DO THEY MEAN
>miquella is riding a golemzombie hybrid of the two strongest demigods and becomes a literal god>dies to a parry>ranni is just a ghost in a doll>power word kills you if you cross her
>>484312191Let me introduce to you, the dynamic duo, that luckily you will never have to deal with.
>>484311932If she wanted Godwyn to die...why did she remove death from the Elden Ring?>The Golden Order was created by confining Destined Death
>>484310847>get to be immune to the attackit doesn't make you immune, it removes the charm.
>>484311932>His crone spells it out, he was meant for true death.>Ohh...>Oh, Lord Godwyn...>Such cruelty, such humiliation...>My poor, sweet lordling should have died a true death.>As the first of the demigods to die.>As a martyr to Destined Death.>But why must it yet bring such disgrace>A scion of the golden bough, sentenced to live in Death..."She's not saying that Godwyn's death was planned, she's lamenting the cruelty of Godwyn's fate of being given a super cancer death that goes beyond death and earns him eternal humiliation and torment, he couldn't even be given a dignified exit.All this is a serious dose of copium to avoid admitting that Ranni is responsible for fucking up her mom's plan to do the exact same thing she herself was doing because she wanted to be in charge and get revenge for Marika ruining her parents' marriage.
>>484312026Yes. People like to paint Godwyn as some sort of heroic messianic figure who didn't deserve to die the way he did, who was loved by everyone. They see Ranni as an evil little selfish traitorous bitch who you can blame the decay of the world of Elden Ring on... I don't agree personally....
>>484312136I don't think that would work. First, you were in her magic workshop and she had prep to set up the death rune. Second, Miquella and Radahn are demigods, not lowly Tarnished. Lastly, Ranni barely pulled off a win against a Two-Fingers, which are strong, but not Miquella/Radahn strong.
I mean I would commit genocide for her no questions asked.
>>484312105>>484312140>>484312171>>484312179
>>484312268>Imagine his dick pressing against your backPreach brother
>>484312390Twin demons and twin princes are both perfect double bosses.Princes is the Radahn archetype done right, and Demons is the evolution of Ornstein and Smough that doesn't rely on cheesing them with the arena.
>>484312503My bad. You're correct. I never got grabbed in all my attempts, so I didn't have to use it beyond just having it equipped.
>>484312390Twin Demons from Ringed City was a good duo boss since From actually bothered to balance their aggressiveness with their mechanics.
>>484312359They put Gravelord Nito in SotE?
>>484312457this is still one of the best fights they've ever done
>>484311484True. Seems like he was a true revolutionary at least.>>484311535Yeah but it makes me wonder if creepy motherfuckers like Varre were part of it before Miquella brainwashed him. I feel like the implication is that Mohg starts as a sympathetic rebel, although one whose ends justify their means; but Miquella turns him into a psycho with no real.end goal to entice people to kill him.
>>484312545I love AI slop.
>>484312565>twin princesDoes this really count? I remember them fighting as one.
>Not even a month has passed and store house is already becoming Red mane castle tier cancerThis is so fucking grim. I have already encountered several cheater gankers abusing the madness lantern exploit.
>>484312750It's basically the same fight as Radahn, except that they have two separate health bars.
>>484311902>t. tranny locked in the shadowlands who can only teach low INT spellsymir is just coping hard
These things are corrupted leeches we meet in the DLC.Anyone who disagrees with me is brown and a third worlder.
>>484312328Huh... i had crystal darts>>484312390>>484312457I have heard good things about that battle, but 2 watchdogs that chase you 90% of the time in a small room fucking sucks. I had to just run away while looking for openings the entire time as to avoid getting pounded with unsyncronized attacks and blind camera angles
>>484312057>leveling past 139lmao enjoy your 2k hp bullgoat mage invasions bro
>>484312510She admits to it. Ranni simps are mentally ill and every TWLID was made because of her selfishness
>>484311163Cute
>>484310021i still use summons for stuff when im making twinks =)
>>484312780It's not even that effective as a redman, if it could auto blight a gank squad in 1-2 hits Redmen would be having a field day
>>484311163
Why does Miquella have four arms?
Imagine holding Miquella as he recoils in pain after leaving a part of himself at one of his crosses.
>shit on Elden Beast for running away>doesn’t shit on sunflower cunt for running away and doing a large AoEI genuinely don’t get people sometimes.I guess it’s easier to bonk the head.
>>484313046You were at my side all along...
90% of phantoms die to Bayle's grab for some reason
>>484312457Fromsoft peaked right hereEverything's been slowly going downhill since this moment
>>484312260Too bad for her before I stuck her head back on I fucked with the Elden Ring and removed the rune that let her care about anything other than my dick.
>>484313046My Horse Prince lookin' asshttps://youtu.be/Ua1Zjnwp8p4?zWYCfF7q8s3zRsmk
>>484312880guess it really is dark souls II 2
>>484312510>People like to paint Godwyn as some sort of heroic messianic figureName one bad trait that he's said to have had.The dude was the perfect demigod and would have been the ideal heir to Marika's throne under the golden order and was murdered by her for it.It's more tragic that way and fits GRRMs writing style. He loves killing off morally good characters.
>>484312840>I have heard good things about that battlefatboy and slim are an amazing fightthey're challenging but they don't completely smother you like 99% of elden ring's bossesthis was back when fromsoft made enemies meant for human players and not korean children on adderall that need every attack to be instant and delayed because else they cannot find anything else challenging anymore after their 9538th no hit no weapons no level no estus no nothing run
>>484313076so he can handle 6 cocks at once like the little faggot he is
>>484313046Someone make a mod that replaces torrent with Radahn.
>>484311216Why do you consider it to be an ass pull? All the lore you find out about him and the tarnished in general is they will return when called.
>>484313130Old King Allant was better and so was DeS. Dark Souls was regression.
>>484312390double crucible in elden ring is a better boss fight than O&S
>>484313076I would FUCK St Trina in front of him. Show him what real love looks like.
Where's the closest effigy to Rellana? Sick of getting summoned at the base of Ensis
If I'm doing Duo Colossals with status, is it just the status talisman + jump talisman + Great Jars and then whatever defensive talisman I want for the last slot? Is there nothing else offensively to increase stance damage or something?
>>484313076Someone, please adopt this little boy before he hurts himself and others even more. His parents are in prison and he needs guidance.
>>484312471Yes. At the start, that was the plan. She wanted an eternal age back then.Then time passed and she realized the folly of her action. She saw her men weakening and faltering. She realized without death one will just wither forever without dying and coming back stronger. That's why she specifically sends the Tarnished and Godfrey away TO DIE and then return and brandish the ring once more.Also, if Marika sealed Destined Death, how do you think Ranni got her hands on it? No one else had been able to take it from Maliketh, so why Ranni?Cause Marika tricked him and helped Ranni get it as part of the deal. He has lines in the dialogue dump specifically about it (though I think they were technically cut, it paints the picture clearly):>[202030000] O Marika...<br />>[202030010] What...happened?<br />>[202030020] Was I...myself the fool?<br />>[202030030] Or was I tricked...by thee?<br />>[202030040] O Marika...<br />>[202030050] Why wouldst thou...relinquish...<br />>[202030060] Why... </p>He also has a line that wasn't cut where he also says she tricked him, though he could be just meaning by doing the shattering given the followup:>[202811000] Marika...why...<br />>[202811010] wouldst thou...gull me?<br />>[202811020] Why...shatter... </p>Point is, Maliketh felt betrayed by Marika and it makes perfect sense that she tricked him so he'd relinquish Destined Death for a moment so Ranni could make the knives to kill Godwyn.Then she had the Black Knives, who are her people (outright stated to be Numen women and Melina literally has an identical knife minus the rune of death stuff), go kill Godwyn with it, likely with his consent considering how easy it seemed to be.But Ranni pulled one over on Marika and stole a knife for herself. She used it at the same time Godwyn was to be killed so she could break free of her flesh and go about her own plan.
>>484312684can't wait until AI slop gets good enough to make games and I can just tell it to make me elden ring but with sex mechanics
This is canon
>>484313387My psychopathic wife on the right.
>>484310153>now>implying Fromdrones weren’t always a fanatical cult
I want to sleep next to Malenia
>>484312880>NOOOO YOU CANT DO MORE THAN 1 THING YOU HAVE TO PICK 1 THING!!!!!!>heh i pick rollspam and poke build what are you a mage? well ill just roll until you are out of FP then win haha noob should have played a meta build like heavy thrusting sword or Keen thrusting sword or...... some other weapon that thrusts.. heheh
>>484313515Sounds uncomfortably warm.
>>484310847This is the sunflower goldmask's mask is based off of. This is all that remains after being abandoned by marika. It is withered by her hand. That's why it has a sad theme
>>484312329I agree to an extent. I didn't mind the fragments but I'm also very thorough in my exploration so I just naturally finished the DLC at 18 blessings, but the fact that there's no rhyme or reason to where you find them and that most of the loot you do find is worthless shit like level 1 smithing stones would make it a huge chore if you want to hunt them down specifically.I think the plot was mostly great, I just dislike the Radahn shit at the end. I don't mind bosses having flashy moves and being aggressive but the DLC does go too far in having them be untouchable for such long periods of time only for you to end up with a window for one or two attacks at most. Aside from those things I think the DLC was great.
God imagine Malenia softly whispering into your ear as she impales you.
>>484313409NTA but the moment you have to resort to using cut content to prop up your argument, you've lost. Cut content is cut. It's not canon. I hate it when I see people shilling cut content in lore posts.
>>484313387I would raise him a if he were my son.
In order for Miquella's true story to be portrayed authentically would require a gameplay and story overhaul of even base Elden Ring.Let us remember that in the game files Mohg was initially supposed to be fought in his complete form down in the sewers before the Frenzied Flame Proscription. When the From Software developers were channeling Miquella, they came to understand he was so in harmony with universal law (as laid out by the Law of Regression and Causality) that any ending he'd represent would run contrary to the neutral if not outright bad endings that are common in most of their games. It would also give the Tarnished nothing to return to if they followed the format of their previous titles, as the world would've already been saved or be on the verge of it.So the From Software developers decided to give Mohg a new role in the post-Shattering Elden Ring to give justification for why the messianic figure that could work alongside the hero of the narrative to bring about true salvation is not present. Thus the irreconcilable lore distortions began in the base game, and set the precedent for the disastrous narrative of the DLC. Largely because From developers wanted Elden Ring to be thematically consistent with their former titles.If From Software decided to be faithful to Miquella's character even if it went against their conventions, he'd treated as the "heroine" of the game from the outset. For it is only through him that the Land's Between can achieve true renewal, as his way is one that leads the Tarnished toward the mending of mankind's relationship with the Greater Will, and finding again the lost grace that "speaks to us all" - the entire point of their journey.
I don't think I'll ever recover from how hype Thollier and Ansbach's introductions were during the battle with Leda. Though I am confused on why Moore fought me at all. I never killed a forager brood. I even healed the ones I found. Moore even thanked me for it.
>>484310153>nowGet a load of this retard
>>484313515>>484313612Oh, my bad, I thought you said Melina.
>>484309854Its the mother. Greater will is the father.
>>484313409>She saw her men weakening and faltering. She realized without death one will just wither forever without dying and coming back stronger.So what's with the whole cycle of spiritual rebirth that the base game keeps talking about? I thought people were buried at the erdtree and their spirits reborn?
>>484309397if you squint it looks like a snakeskin
>>484313651Extremelt fuckable brown Tarnished.
>beat dlc>favorite boss is still AstelI think this is the first souls game a dlc boss hasn't become my favorite.
>>484313651hey i can be your miquella>>484313694leda manipulated him
>>484313694I couldn't pay attention to the dialogue because I was too focused on staying alive lol
>>484313765No no, she's cute too but for me it's my rotwife.
>REWRITE REWRITE REWRITE MIQUELLA WAS SUPPOSED TO REVIVE HIS BR-Lorelets?
>>484313903Your "wife" is Miquella's property. You can watch in the corner.
>>484313930"A True Death is returning to the Erdtree"
>>484311339Gideon thought her plan was impossible anon. No man can kill a god.
anons can someone give me some cute girl sliders please
CURSE YOU FAGAHNI HEREBY VOW, PRIDE MONTH HAS ENDED THIS DAY !This could be such a great fight. If the animations were less janky, the lighting effects toned down a bit and the performance fixed this is an S tier fight.Fighting him with rapier and shield feels really good. Lets you parry the start up of that ridiculously fast cross-cross-Xslash that comes out so fucking fast. You also have really fast recovery time, my go to is normally greatswords for bosses but Radahn is just way too fast for it.Great soundtrack, its going to be stuck in my head.
Devin killing Fia was based.
dlc was so bad the best part about it was fighting the 2 tree sentinles then seeing marikas village
>>484312329>said it ruins the joy of explorationIt does.Instead of enjoying the view, I end up looking at every corner for Skibidi fragments especially in Charo grave, Cerulean coast, and finger ruin.Why couldn’t they just place the skibidi fragment like the golden seed? Killing a random hippo was the worst offender.
>>484313409Marika was killing off her men>The Night's Cavalry, who now wander the dim roads at night, were once led by the Fell Omen and were deliverers of death for great warriors, knights, and champions.She didn't send away these warriors away as Tarnished to die, they were assassinated. Anyways like that other Anon said you're using cut content to prop up your argument so I'm just going to stop here
>>484313387>catch up to miquella in the middle of him making one of his self harm crosses>ask ranni doll how she feels about adoption>she and miquella both interrupt with a loud no before I can finish the question
>>484313593t. havel mage, I shant be matchmaking with your and your boyfriends level 200 gank squad seethe about it
>>484310321An empyrean, at a more abstract level and going with the storyline beats, is basically anyone who can bring a new age. Isn't in Dark Souls an Age symbolized by the time a certain Ember or flame is burning?Empyrean is a word that comes from the greek 'empurios', which is made by combining the terms en (in) + pur (fire). To be involved in fire basically, or more symbolically in the context of Elden Ring, to set alight a new 'fire', or a new age.I think it could as well possibly relate to the subplot of Melina involving herself in fire to burn the Erdtree, as the cardinal sin might be synonymous with the birth of a new age.
>>484314047>pride month canceled>already JulyAnon....
>>484311835Her mentor was queen marika.
>>484313930Maybe Miquella wanted both Godwyn and Radahn as his consorts
>>484314207slut whore
>>484313972Anon all my favourite characters come from videogames where everything's doomed and you have to kill themYou cannot hurt me in any way that matters
>>484314047>brass shieldYou didn't actually beat him.
>>484313515she seems like she would be very cuddly
>>484314047>Shield equippedCome back when you beat the game.
Are the puppet Dolores and Miquella connected?
>>484314073>2 tree sentinlesWas it 2 or was it 3? I swear when I got there I fought 2, explored the village and when I got back out of the village there was a third one.
>>484314207Miquella literally calls us lord of the old order, not because we are elden lord but because we're aspiring to be.The kid is just formal and respectful.
>invade>3v1 gank>not playing through the game, just intentionally farming invaders>run away, mimic veil, and go afk to 4chinsso how are we doing tonight, anons?
>>484313816I thought the Shadowtree Avatar was neat but I agree that my favourite boss is still base game Radahn
Godwyn deserved it. Look at this face and tell me that face didn't deserve it.
Bread>>484314419>>484314419>>484314419
>>484312003>Nobody wanted to fuck my cutie.
>>484310884I remember fags bragging that Onbal can do no hit, and he was using deflect tear which turns the fight into easy mode
Soo AI NPCs will be able to fight like the best PVP players. Imagine the NPC invasions
>>484314174To be empyrean is to be heaven-sent. It's a biblical term
>>484314373I think that might be a glitch of some sort as that happened the first time I did the DLC on my first character but it hasn’t happened since then.
>>484313593>>NOOOO YOU CANT DO MORE THAN 1 THING YOU HAVE TO PICK 1 THING!!!!!!you forgot to post the gigachad image, anon
>>484314484Oh I do wanna fuck her. But that is impolite to say.
>>484314557It's another possible interpretation. I'm going with the older greek meaning, as it seems to fit more in spirit with the previous lore of the Souls series as well.
>>484314484I'd throatfuck her, ruin her makeup, but that's about it. The second I cum I'm using finger severer.
>>484314632>>484314701See that's what I wanted to hear : ) Be more specific.
>>484314035That's a different line from the one I quoted, which is unambiguously "she doesn't want anyone at all, period, the ring stays broke."
>>484311873Well now we know that she also has something sealed in her eye like her brother
I've been trying to kill Radahn at level 150 with a claymore and shitty armor (to light roll). I can get him to phase two sometimes, but then I die much within a minute. I would try using a shield or something, but I'm too much of a fucking autist. Anyway, I guess I'll be here for a while.
>>484311882Well there is also the area behind Marika's statue by his boss entrance
>>484313930>please die a true deathMiquella wanted Godwyn’s body to die.
>>484315094good luck cutie
>>484314126>put me the fuck downmake me you little goblin
The first time I transitioned to phase 2 radahn I literally have no idea what happened. He just kept teleporting around me and I died somehow and also exploded with constant aoe going off all over the place
>>484316648had the same experience my first time
Serpents/Formlessness/Felll/Blood/Red are all.................................................something.................................together.
throwing dagger, throwing axe, a whiptime to play castlevania. what else would a belmont use?
>>484314485Onbal even admits that some of his moves are bad and can not be avoided reliably without the tear, back step amulet, and/or raptor art.They always like to omit this part for some retarded reason which is already retarded where they are conflating the best player with an average player.I don't even understand how you can even ignore the best players fucking complaints and feel the need to defend a fucking company so hard.
>>484310143snakeskin
>>484302470>>484303934I love love a Carian Knights arsenal of infusionable magic weapons like Fire Knights and Black Knights
>>484311426give four compassionate handjobs at once
>>484311631>ng+>go to lake>do varres quest>mohg>dlc>sit down at enough bonfires that Melina comes and tells you about the Roundtable hold>take screenshot and troll
>>484309890yeah, ropes of my cum
>>484307059yes, i want to stab that little homo fucker as he's wailing around crying for his age of compassion after the fight.
>>484317923radahn has unavoidable moves in his second if you rely on dodge rolling, which is inexcusable. nothing should be unavoidable with a roll.
>>484317923>they are conflating the best player with an average playeraverage arpg dev moment
