>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passworderg>Previous>>485029493
>>485049143i like this picture in the op its nice picture
Ranni!
is the fingerprint shield literally a chunk taken from one of the finger ruins used as a shield?
Why would I enter into Ranni’s service? Assuming I have no foreknowledge of her questline. Is it truly only because she’s the cute witch girl?
>>485049256i dont know>>485049280she has nice voice
Tried dane's footwork for fun but felt underwhelming Can someone help a retard out. How do i build around it?
>Boy the cerulean coast sure was empty, I hope these wacky finger ruins have much content to explore
>>485049280she pays good runes per hour and has a nice dental plan
fire prelate gloves on altered hoslow's set looks really nice and gives 52 poise.
>>485049280You get the most awards.Fia is the only other NPC quest that nets you close to the same amount.
>>485049306I do like her voice and accent.
Is there a difference between summoning Hornsent or not against Messmer? I forgot to and now I'm afraid I might mess something up.
radahn is the new normal, get ready for even worse bosses in their next soulslop
>>485049352Right, but I’m thinking about this from the perspective of my character. He doesn’t know what awaits him. Only that he has agreed to serve a witch he met once before.
I'll repost this here too. Melina and ranni's ghost face don't actually look similar but ranni's ghost face and her doll face are almost identical. Do with that information what you will.
>>485049280Rogier tells you to.
>>485049441Yeah you fucked up his quest forever too bad bucko should've read the guide first
>>485049441>summon hornsent for messmerhe invades you right outside of romina and drops his stuff when you kill him>don't summon hornsent for messmerhe joins the deathmatch with Leda and friends and drops his stuff when you win
>>485049498ok
>>485049314int cold or poison with flower blooms twice aow shatter medallion, claw talisman rotten medallion,
>>485049526Well shit. Apparently you were supposed to help him with something else as well, but I never saw a sign.
WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?
>>485049516True, Rogier is the homie
>>485049320well the finger ruins down south might have been empty but I can see a second finger ruins on the map up north, surely that'll have something in it
>Less than 30% of players have Rannis endingWhy do so many people not finish this game anons?
new weapons in the dlc are really underwhelming arent those?
So let me get this straightif you put magic infusion on a claw like bloodhounds, you get 190/190 damage with E/E/B scaling, the 190 phys barely gets anything from str/dex and the 190 magic only scales with int. meanwhile claws of night have 193/124 damage with B dex scaling, and the dex scales BOTH the phys and magic damage so with 80 dex alone you wind up at 720+ base AR before talismans/buffsand then claws of night have the best weapon art in the game but also get a special moveset that allows backstep feints in the weapon art & R2 so you can dodge out of range and launch the smithscript projectiles at the same time, which is basically a 2nd weapon art of finesse on top of the busted scattershotgun
>>485049585>the panic>the point downyou're both retarded
>put on blue sign>instant summon>fuck, I dont want to d-->Sword of DamnationDid you enjoy being Slept Bolt over and over and over again, you subhuman faggot? God, I love ganking losers like this.
what is the most alien-like weapon for an ayy lmao build to use?
>>485049585THIS DLC HAS ATTRACTED GAGGLES OF RETARDED CHILDREN. I'VE HAD MORE CO-INVADERS ATTACK ME THAN NOT.>>485049672whatever faggot get your dumbass dead corpse pointed at idiot
>>485049650beast claws are coolperfumes are dogshitbackhand blades or overpoweredgreatkatanas are really goodsmithscript weapons are meme shitdueling shields are very strongdryleaf fists are turbo trash but will become very good once their poise damage gets fixedlight greatswords are really good and will become overpowered like backhand blades when their poise damage gets fixed
Stop crying about Radahn, nobody caresEvery thread its the same arguments, over and overIf you had spent half the time you do, coping, bitching and ragebaiting in these threads, you would've started to get a grasp of his mechanics already.Yes he attacks alot, and yes the pillars of light can be a bit much, but he doesn't have any undodgeable attacks, he doesn't have any oneshots, and literally everything he does is reactable. Stop crying about his cross-slash move what the fuck.Everyone keeps constructing their little scenario, where Radahn does 20 second long combos without any opening, and then teleports away from them and takes forever getting back into the fight, etc etc.This hasn't happened once in my 100's of fights against him. But if you try to argue with these people, they'll just refer to their made-up (or extremely unlikely, super-unlucky) experience with the fight, making any discussion useless.
>>485049649A third haven't even beaten Godrick.
>>485049741shadow sunflower blossom with goldmask head and briar set
>>485049585brothers fistfighting
>>485049741bastard stars?
>>485049818>baby can't handle a little shenanigansboy you would have torn your hair out in ds3
>Removed the Last Rites/Holy Ground interactions>You now take fall damage even when swinging when jumping outside the map, killing skips>Jump glitches removed>Nanaya's Torch and Smithscript Shield no longer affected by mainhand buffs>Rolling Sparks dedWhat glitches remain after the patches?
>>485049820>perfumes are dogshitthey really aren't, the pure elemental damage scaling with buffs puts them super high damage even compared to other top tier weaponsnot many weapons get pure elemental damage and a free +20% talisman slot
>>485049948I don't even think they're trying to cause shenanigans on purpose, anon. At least the purples were generally good at the game.
>>485041710Actually, this looks like the fossilised remains were hidden in the earth until Caelid was cracked open with Malenia's Rot nuke.I wonder if there's any relation to these guys and the giant heads that got cut from the final release?
>>485049498THAT DOLL IS OF THE SNOW WITCH THE GAME TELLS YOU THAT ITS BASED ON HERI TOLD YOU ALL I TOLD EVERYONE AND THEY LAUGHED AT ME I TOLD YOU ALL THAT THE SNOW WITCH WAS THE MISSING CARIAN SISTER AND RANNI'S AUNT OR RANNI'S GRANDMOTHER NO ONE FUCKING BELIEVED ME NO ONE BUT HERE HERE IT IS THEIR FACES LOOKING NEAR IDENTICAL THE SNOW WITCH'S AND RANNI. RANNI AND HER MENTOR LOOKING IDENTICAL I FUCKING TOLD YOU ALL APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING ME A SCHIZO RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWWW
Do I need to use Taunter's Tongue if I want to be invaded as a solo host? Or just a Furlcalling Remedy?
Radahn fight simply incorporates Armored Core philosophy where you can't just fashion souls your way through the game and have to minmax your build and use every tool in your arsenal to have a chance
>>485050017taunter's
>>485049968post a single webm of winning an invasions with perfumes
>>485050017Getting invaded as a solo host is just not a thing anymore. You can use the tongue but prepare to tongue some anus and get invaded literally ever 5 minutes non-stop.
>>485049649Actually if you look at the population numbers few have even beaten godrick. Ranni's ending is actually the most completed one, even for ps5 it's the most completed. On jp it's the most popular one according to polls they did.
>>485049818>runs in>attacks fellow invader>fails miserably>gets instantaneously deleted by the hostfucking kek
>>485050065nta but I cannot imagine seriously using PvP as a metric
>>485050041only minmaxing i did was the small shield for parrying... wore cloth otherwise
>check youtube for the first time in forfuckingever>realize I'm still subscribed to ChaseTheTroonHoly fuck the shame
>>485049950nanaya's torch still builds up retarded frenzydamnation plunge attack hitbox is glitchyimpenetrable thorns stacks its hitboxesansbach greatbow shotguns statussword of night has unintended true combo with WA
>find alexander in faraam azula>he asks me to fight him>get excited>beat him in two swingsdamn
>>485050041Armor matters far less in the DLC because skibidi levels boost your negation so much.
>>485049280I did it originally because Rogier asked me to
>gets to direct a sequel to Dark Souls for some reason (a literal golden ticket)>manages to fuck it up somehow >is rewarded with a co-director position on all subsequent souls projects >keeps fucking them upWhat's his secret? Did he save Miyazaki's life? Is he some shareholder's kid?
The tree we see on radahn's back is closer to that of depictions of the haligtree than those we see of the erdtree ingame. It's either a completely seperate third tree or the haligtree.
>>485049280four hands, imagine
>>485050207qrd? Name sounds familiar (minus the troon part, obviously).Did he troon out himself, or something?
>>485050262i think he might be miyazaki’s cousin
>>485050262Read an interview for them no seriously all of your questions will be answered if you actually read what these guys say. they said miquella and his elden lord were based on them they're either really close friends or gay with eachother
Communicating with RellanaTrying to make a truce with RellanaComplimenting Rellana on her swordsmanshipAsking Rellana about herselfGetting to know RellanaSlowly becoming familiar to RellanaBecoming a part of Rellana's day that she looks forward toBefriending RellanaGiving Rellana giftsSpending time with RellanaComforting RellanaBecoming trusted to RellanaAsking Rellana if you can see her faceSlowly bringing your hands to Rellana's helmet, and lifting...
>>485050264Or it's just the same tree drawn differently.
>>485050126And of course he's using Eleonora's Poleblade at RL60 with the white mask; I'm sure he figured out how to get those all on his own.
>>485050000>I wonder if there's any relation to these guys and the giant heads that got cut from the final release?what giant heads that got cut?About those GIANT skulls I've never found a good explanation for them. I say giant in caps because if you give them a proportional body they are nearly as tall as the Erdtree, like they make it seem like a normal size small tree in comparsion.One theory about them is that they were the one to build the Divine towers, and the Golden Order later appropriated them and placed two fingers atop each one. They have the symbol of the Fellgod (eight circles around a ninth larger circle) circling the two finger corpses, and the golden order didn't put those symbols there so it must be someone connected to the fire giants and the Fell god
>>485050385settle down Messmer
>>485049820the biggest gripe i have with the dlc is there are so many un-infusable weaponslet me play around like, why the fuck you'd include a very good poison aow and the only good weapon for it is an ugly fist weapon from base game
>>485050393And which tree
>>485050438https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LsVh9KGB_Nw&pp=ygUWRWxkZW4gcmluZyBnaWFudCBoZWFkcw%3D%3D
>>485050385Riding torrent thru Rellanas gaping asshole
>>485050438Funfact we can find dlc items connecting the fell god to not only the sun, but the hornsent as well. It's likely it's a sun God worshipped by both. If so it explains marika's hostility towards giants who worshipped the fellgod but her acceptance of those who renounced their faith in it.
>>485050535Idk who cares.
>>485050438>They have the symbol of the Fellgod (eight circles around a ninth larger circle) circling the two finger corpses, and the golden order didn't put those symbols there so it must be someone connected to the fire giants and the Fell godHm, never caught that.
>>485050438ER takes a lot of inspiration from Norse mythology. It's probably a call back to Ymir, the giant in which the world was built from.
>>485049847Godfrey was so damn lucky
>>485050317>*blockwiggles*>"yo whats up guys">*spins around*>"ChaseTheBro here">*shits his scaled armor set*
was polytheism pretty much the norm in the Lands Between pre-Erdtree, with the crucible being worshipped alongside outer gods and tutelary deities?
>>485049498>ranni's ghost face and her doll face are almost identicalMy Wife will gargle my nuts and throat my hog at the same time.One of her hands will tickle my prostate, one will cup my asscheek hard enough to dig her nails into it (she is claiming me as hers) and the remaining two will stay locked with my hands as a sign of love.
>>485050661Judging by it's depiction it seems more like an alternate version of the haligtree. It's the same cape on birth versions or meant to be. It's very possible radahn was always proudly showing his allegiance to miquella or was by the time he and malenia fought.
>>485050892what about her penises?
>>485050385>Slowly bringing your hands to Rellana's helmet, and lifting...you know she does not show her face for a reason?probably some ugly butch hag under the helmet(not like my beloved innocent miquella, whose face should never be hidden)
>>485049847>Radahnhttps://litter.catbox.moe/tqctyw.webm
>>485050983why do these links always have porn in them
>>485051026Because you can't post porn directly on a blue board.
>>485050939Depends on the size, if they're futa hyper rods she can squeeze her thighs and grind them between them. If they're normal, then I reckon that can still happen. if they're microdicks then they shall be put into chastity cages themed around moon and carian imagery.
>>485050438>>485050668ID LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE OUTERGODS HAVE PHYSICAL FORMS THEY CAN BE KILLED AND THEY CAN BE IMPRISONED YET STILL EXIST AS SEEN WITH THE SCARLET ROT GODDESS BEING TRAPPED UNDER LUNARIA WHILE MAKING MALENIA AND LATER POTENTIALLY ROMINA ITS AVATAR. ITS VERY POSSIBLE THAT COULD BE THE CORPSE OF THE FELL GOD OR AT LEAST ITS MORTAL AVATAR
>>485050945She is Rennala's twin so pretty much this, give or take
>Danes Footwork at the very end of the DLCthats so fucking stupid, what if I wanted to play the DLC with the kicks???
>>485050983why is he so smol?you should never wash your radahn in hot water, they shrink
>>485050798yeah it seems that way. The development of religion in the Crucibles (there seems to be more than one, the Divine gate is one and the Erdtree was grafted atop another) - that became the religion of the Golden Order with the Erdtree and Greater Will all under Queen Marika is made to mimic the real world religious development of polytheism into monotheism. The demi-gods are like catholic saints. Thats also why everything crucible has a design language of real world cultures that were polythesitic.Crucible Knights have dark bronze armour like the dark armour of ancient cultures, the red hair of the fire giants and the red hair of the European barbarians the greeks and romans fought wars aganist, the divineness of horns and Siberian/asian shamanism and connection to all life.
fc anyone
>>485051058nor indicretly
>>485050385I'd like to point out ranni can make magical projections that can touch you, can be touched, can feel pain, and can bleed. It's entirely possible for her to make a simulacrum of rellana for you to plap if you really asked for her to.
>>485050983Radahn is so lucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAY0X0j1n-4>effortlessly shits all over the entire eldensoulstuber communityhow does he do it
>>485051169Yeah but it's like how racism is technically against the rules; very rarely is it actually enforced.
>>485051146Sorry im on ps5 I don't think anyone here plays on ps5
>>485050798Elden Ring seems to be a tale of our own world's development, but with fantasy/sci-fi elements. Prior to the GO, the lands were filled with different cultures that worshipped different gods, these old primitive gods might be what the Outer Gods are.
did the hornsent worship the god of rot, the god of verdigris, formless mother, etc., or did they consider their belief heresies and inquisitioned them?
>get everything on one character and simply respec>have multiple characters with specific builds you change to if you wanna do something differentwhich way, /erg/ man
>>485051079>all caps?There are several very giant skeletons in Caelid and beneath the chain bridge and at the mountain of the giants, so it's not the corpse of the Fell God.Also the Fell god is alive until we kill the fire gaint. The eye in its chest IS the fell gods manifesting, hence the iris is the symbol of the Fell God (the North Pole of Jupiter which is 9 cyclones that orbit each other which together are larger than Earth)
what do they mean when they say that bernahl and vyke got "close" to becoming elden lords? all the demigods were still alive with their runes, how come vyke was going to the forge without them?
>>485051339they worshipped the divine beasts
>>485051358I used to be the second but the scardu fragments turned me into the first
There’s this faggot on /v/ who said most From soundtracks are forgettable but SOTE has some real bangers and I wanna rip his ears off for not recognizing Greatness in past games
>>485051105in elden ring twins don't look the samemiquella = so pretty, malenia = ugly old hagmohg = handsomest sex beast, morgott = ugly and smelly
>>485050385Why have no one reveal Rellana face yet? There's nothing under that helm?
trying out an unorthodox co-op build and it’s been surprisingly fun
>>4850513582
>>485051479DS1 and BB are the only souls games with memorable music.
>>485051479stay mad
If I see you using this, I will use whatever bullshit I have to kill you. Sleep Bolts, Madness, fucking Chain Saw.
>>485051387There are plenty of dead demigods and plenty of runes missing from the elden ring that aren't needed for it to function. We see this with miquella destroying his rune, and the faram azula elden ring having many runes. Many more demigods existed beyond what we've seen, they either died during the night of black knives or during the shattering. They're in walking mosoleums, what we see are the most influential/powerful demigods.
>>485051461>scardu fragments turned me into the firstthisplaying through everything to perfect a build is already more of a slog in ER than other games but it was always worth doing to me, skibidi fragments pushed me over the edge and now I just CE myself a fuckton of larval tears and swap whenever I feel like it, ignoring all my old characters entirely.
>>485051387Maybe they got runes that you never see, like the rune governing the shape of spider webs, or something.Maybe their runes were taken back by the shardbearers you kill.
>>485051567>>485051584never considered this, thanks for the explanation
>>485051529That's great champ, keep us posted.
>>485051487>rellana never takes off her helmet because she thinks she's ugly underneath >shes actually the pretty twin but she's too insecure to tell anyone.
>>485051529thats gay, don't post about it again
Hey guys, AWHGEHGEHWHAWHGWHGAAHWGWHAHA WHGWYAHAGH here.I have a question, were regular ass runes, both shadow and regular ones, part of the elden ring or what exactly are they? Glowy eyes? Why are they treated both as currency and a way to empower oneself?AWHGEHGEHWHAWHGWHGAAHWGWHAHA WHGWYAHAGH out.
Hello I'd like to remind you the dlc does give an explanation of melina's hair color for those that were arguing about it last thread. Look at the shamans. They have strands of blonde, white, and pinkish colored hair. The latter matching melina's color. Messmer if you look at his model also has the same strands of pinkish hair. They got it from the shamans, just as marika's golden hair came from them.
>>485051565stay mad
>>485050128They're dogshit in PVE too.No stagger, no stun, no range, no ash of war options, VERY long animations that are sometimes slower than Colossal weapons.They can't even rely on L2 because the singular good Perfume ash got nerfed into the ground.
>>485051648greatshield int/faith spellcastercurrently almost lvl 3018 int, 14 faith, 15 stam, and will reach lvl 30 with 18 mons. using wooden greatshield with scholar’s shield and carian slicer as main source of damage, i plan to also implement incantations later on.
>>485050945https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIMbk5hgMI...........
>>485051797The heavies stagger and have more range bucko, with quickstep they're fine
>>485051783Sorry, never died to one of those. But I will keep cheesing everyone I see with it. Sorry, not sorry.
>>485051764>I have a question, were regular ass runes, both shadow and regular ones, part of the elden ringThats how I understand it>Glowy eyes?Gameplay mechanic only I beleive>Why are they treated both as currency and a way to empower oneself?I would argue they are the only things that have value post shattering because it can empower yourself. The runes you get from killing a boss and enemies is essentially their soul, like dark souls you take the souls of others and consume them to become more powerful. Great Runes are too powerful to be consumed so you can only get glimpses of their power via rune arcs
the fact that so much of melina's character can point in so many directions and all of it ends up meaning fuck all to a character so consistently present to the player is fucking hilarious to me
>>485051387>Be me>Be Elden Ringing>"YOU HAVE BEEN INVADED BY VYKE, FRENZIED VYKE, VYKE THE FUCKING CLOSEST ELDEN LORD, VYKE THE DRAGON IMPALER (with his dick)" >Awww shit niggas, here we go. >LION CLAW>He fell down>Poke him on his left tit>He is staggered>Slightly tap his shoulder>He is staggered>O-okay i will stop attacking now >Five straight minutes of just running and dodging>Okay i guess that is his full moveset>Lion Claw>Enemy defeated>MfwVyke the almost Elden Lord gave me less trouble than a fucking Runebear
>>485051797>no ash of war optionsagreed. two is too few.>No stagger, no stundepends on how much damage you deal. frostbite also staggers.>no rangerolling sparks has a very long range though.>VERY long animationsthe R1 is quite fast though. it has a wide AoE and you can combine different perfumes for dual-wieldingthe ability to poison yourself whenever is great for obvious reasons. no FP cost for dealing your elemental damage of choice is also very nice.
OUT OF MY WAY INCESTUOUS FAGGOT SHITS
>>485049352Doesn't Volcano Manor give you several armor sets and weapons?
>>485052172who brought havel in
tree sentinel set + opaline + golden vow + crabbed up. its gaming time.
>>485052172Were you able to beat him like this?
>>485052172looks like a hate crimei like it
>>485051982good to keep posting about it then>>485052240that is why we get to see round 2 in the webm
>die when Igon says "BEHOLD, A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR"
Does the DLC have any good looking leather gloves/boots with a bit better poise?
>shaman village
do bongs or bowls conserve bud better in elden ring
>>485052069he should've been the boss on top of the mountain, not the giant
>>485052551bongs for sure
>>485050732>Hewg's entire purpose is to make a weapon capable of killing gods, which is exactly what he achieves with +25/+10 weapons. Your fully upgraded weapon is equivalent to the Fingerslayer Blade. Thank Hewg for your godly weaponry.But what if Iji was the one who made my god-killing weapons?
>>485052354rellana's gloves
>>485052240>>485052321Too big for .webmhttps://streamable.com/d9dw0thttps://streamable.com/d9dw0t
scadu fragments fucked up the DLC what were they thinking
How good/bad is the the bugladys spear? Looking for a good arc weapon that isn't rivers
>>485052641Why bother arguing about it?Metyr isn't killed, and the Elden Beast isn't destroyed because the ER is still around.
now that we have great katanas, can we have light katanas now? like katanas but with the same speed as curved swords
What is that black knife ringleader debuff that drains all your health?
>>485052469>messmer tried to cure the shamans
>>485052705how so?
>>485052825destined ded
Hello I'd like to point out something for you rannifags.Grrm when writing lovestories often has them end in tragedy in some way, not just counting asoiaf but his older works too. Here are some examples I've seen the most often >one of the partners is cucked either repeatedly cheated on within the relationship or their partner leaves them for another person>one or both partners are using or manipulating the other for their own benefit often for their goals to be crushed right after they achieve them or come close to>one partner goes insane and the other one tries to keep things together hiding or downplaying their partners madness becoming an accomplice to their actions and eventually going insane as well>unrequited love be it one sided or two sided with neither being able to properly be together due to their duty or their psychological issues, one or both die before they're able to be together as a couple>a couple that ends up together but isolated with much of their friends or loved ones dead at the end they have eachother but are alone Each of these fit the carians nicely.
>Radahn is a totally fair boss and not hard at all! KINO! Git gud!He's not hard, he's un-fun. You genuinely CANNOT kill this boss with anything other than Shields, rolling + 1 light attack, or some cheese like Rot Arrows or whatever. 95% of what's available in the game in the form of Incants, Sorceries and AoWs are unusable against this boss. If you want a no-hit kill, it's memorizing his moveset and rolling + 1 light attack, or a charged attack at best. If you want a no-damage run, use a shield. That's it.Why has it come from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3w4oAecVE0To this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO_SQfOj5SY
I did not care for this DLC
>>485052754yeah bro just let me make another dlc real quick
>>485052920>hey what about this fat fuck who had nothing to do with the gameok
>>485052957ok
ok
was it to much to ask for a trespass-based invasion area
>>485052965thanks man i just dont like the dual wielded katana moveset
>>485052912How do I avoid that move where he leaps into the air and spams that aoe? I can't get away fast enough to not get hit by it?
>>485052993copehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csOcHCDmMdE
>>485053075if you're talking about maliketh, make use of those columns
>lets insert twin axes into the game with the same move set as one handed axe>import from DS3 like we did with everything else?>cant be bothered
>>485053098>thinks about cuckoldry and watches south parknot a good look for you
Reminder that Marika deserved punishment by the hornsent potentateReminder that she usurped the Crucible & replaced it with her ErdtreeReminder that she hates Morgott & Mohg who are good boys & never deserved what they gotReminder thar Marika is a homewrecking whoreReminder that Marika ripped the power Melina was born with away & sealed it because she feared it & set Melina up to kill herself. That she banished poor Messmer to the Shadowlands to fight an endless war because she hated him.Reminder that Marika is an evil little jar
>>485053123Is the black knife ringleader, first time trying to fight him. Is he weak to anything like holy?
>>485052879Nta but it's fucked over the co-op scene, thanks to being downscaled to whatever the (usually retarded) host has. Which in turn lowers invasion potential. It's still okayish now, but actovity will end up dropping off very quickly if nothing changes.
>>485052172>>485052921>no shield>no rolls>no light attack>no rot arrows>no memorizing moveset>no charged attack>uses the an AoW with a huge windup exactly the opposite of what you said>ez pz radahnexplain that atheists
>>485053187why can't you look this up for yourself?
>>485053159What was Melina's power?
I just realized it's called Castle Redmane because Radahn's gimmick is that he's the Red Lion.
>>485053269Destined Death
>>485053187>black knife ringleader>He>black knife assassins>HePlease pay more attention to the story anon
>you can put Seppuku on a great katana
most offensive part of radahn is that he's just blatant fanservice. messmer deserved to be the final boss , lore aside
>>485053141buckbroken by gurm, may such cases
>>485053278proud of you anon
>>485053356messmer is a literal who, he didnt deserve shit
>>485052172>no greatshield>no summonsYou DID beat radahn.
>>485053301this boss is fucking bull shit, it erases all of my health in seconds and i cant do anything about it
>>485053356>fanserviceHave you lost the ability to read during these last few weeks?
>>485052669You beat the game
>>485053356It should have been Godwyn
>>485053226anon, being this retarded is straight up illegal
weapon does not matter, build does not matter. You will roll and r2 all the same
>>485053278February 22, 2021
>>485053317Ngl your tarnished looks exactly like my str/fth build I made specifically to marry ranni last year. he had barely enough int to use the dmgs
So the Godskins alluded to being snakely mockeries of the Crucible, we even see the fat inquisitior hornsent. I wonder if the Godflayers aren't just rogue hornsent who seek to slay gods (Marika) & wear the skins of people to hide amongst them
>>485053391i said lore aside. everything about his right is amazing >>485053445don't care, it's lazy and sucked. oh wow it's the cool comet attack *again*, cant wait to see my favorite streamers reactions!!
I know it's a gameplay concession, but the Graces shouldn't point us in the right direction after we kill Godfrey and/or RadaBeast.Maybe not at all in the Shadow Lands.
>>485053552No.
>>485053610were the godskins still considered heretical during the days of the Hornsent dominance?
I can’t beat the boar rider guy. Rl135 , 0 scadutree fragments and 0 other fragment
Okay fellas. I really like my dryleaf dragon but I got an issue. When I fight BIG enemies I have no stuning ability & I get shredded if I try to hit more than a few times. Should I just spell them down or should I just carry a back up Arcane weapon?
>>485053614>don't care, it's lazy and suckedthat's the point, anon. the overwhelmingly most common opinion is that radahn is the worst boss of the DLC and a shit ending. that's why it's retarded to call it fan service.
>>485053713why 0 scadu level?
Dryleafs are surprisingly versatile in terms of how easy it is to throw them onto a build and make it work as a side weapon if you feel like.
>>485053667>not showing stats at the endWhat an asshole
fuck black knife ring leader alecto this fight is bull shit
>>485052669>>485052172Post build.
>>485053610It's also possible that the god devouring serpent's parent was GEQ's consort. We even find a large snake skin in the dlc no one can really explain and it's nor from messmed. We see the gds was tiny when rykard fed himself to it, so the skin is likely from an older serpent.
dry leaf>jump r2>palm blastthere's your weapon
>>485053835it's a glitch
>>485053792Because he's a fucking retard.
>>485053713>dying to a boss where the only reasonable way is to outtank him>refuse to get the gear to tank himthat's a 'you' problem
>>485053763>dryleaf>dragonYou have Palm Blast and Dragonmaw.
>>485052920Marika and Godfrey is definitely an inverse of number 3 with the caveat that Godfrey was always bug slaughtering crazy.
>>485053854read up and stop bitching
WINGED ONI OF HORNED FOOLS! I'VE COME FOR OKINA'S BLADE!
>>485053787i always isolate myself before and after a game/dlc is has launched so i very recently started to talk and read about it, i thought you meant the lore explanation justified itit's clearly an attempt at fanservice, and im glad it failed
So the Crucible was the primordial essence that landed in the planet but before it actually became the Erdtree? Explain lorechads i just press r1 on the bosses in these games.
>>485049280You can rune farm Blaidd.
>>485053823Dryleaf DELETES mobs fast. It's great to do dungeons with
>>485054068how?
Did not like dryleaf, they have 0 weight behind them
>>485053930not him but how is that not a problem with the game? it's bad boss design, you shouldn't have to outtank a souls boss
Going PFFFFTHHHHHHBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBffffff on Miquella's tummy would fix me. Maybe not him, but me.
>>485054021got it. I agree
Whats the difference between the punching and kicking dryleaf?
>>485054283pedophilia
>>485052705imagine if they hadn't buffed them, I bet it was proper difficult beforehand
I can't seem to be able to change my stone-sheathed sword into the light or dark one. What gives?
>>485054373you just posted it
>>485054068>6.7k
>>485053885>>485053936Idk the Bird Warriors just body me.
>>485054425
I honestly dont understand the need for scadu fragments at all, why even add them
My Faith/Str build has struggled immensely compared to my Int and Arc builds. I think that's pretty funny since a super religious guy would invite all kinds of suffering to test their faith.
>>485054497what do you mean, are you stupid? the dlc progressively gets more difficult so they added a new leveling system to compensate it's absurdly simple
>>485054560>the dlc progressively gets more difficult so they added a new leveling system to compensatewhy?
is the game fucking dead in Europe/North American? all I'm getting are koreans,chinks and japs.
>>485053046>was it too much to ask for funIn MY games? fuck right off
how the hell did it take leda, who was charmed by miquella to quell her paranoid yandere tendencies, up until we nearly get to miquella to figure out we still had the guidance of grace?how come Messmer never finds out we still have the grace of gold until his death?
>>485054624because people like progression, it's a progression system. are you also asking why the base game gets progressively more difficult?
why do hosts go full retard mode when someone invades? Just ignore them.
>>485054497Because Bamco and From didn't learn their lesson from that Prepare to Die fiasco, and didn't want people with meta builds, upgraded OP spirit ashes, and lv300 characters to steamroll the DLC. So a new way to make the game more difficult was made, and since it's a open world game, might as well make it attached to the exploration aspect.
>>485054471Maybe try putting endure on your weapon and using it before Dragonmaw.Two casts in a row are probably enough to stagger them.
>Miquella''s memory is him simping for RadahnWhat was the point of this? They have told us this already at least 4 different times. It doesn't add anything at all
>>485053046yes, that's what we needed, more rat covenant dogshit that dies 2 months after release
>>485054768No I'm asking why it needed another collectible as crutch instead of just using the old overleveling crutch.
>>485054497Miyazaki here, I took 2 years to program this dlc, so you HAVE to explore every nook and cranny, alright CHUD? What? All the empty space and dead ends? It's just your imagination, give me your dollars.
>>485054275same desu, ds2 bone fist felt better to use
>>485054841because people were already "max" level and the dlc is the length of a regular game
>>485054818Because they deleted the cinematic that had Miquella remove the veil over the Shadowlands, so they replaced it with a cinematic that was originally supposed to play at a earlier time instead. The DLC is a mess.
>>485054818>him
why THE FUCK did the DLC have literally NOTHING on the GEQ except sneks?
The next From game needs a level cap.
>>485054818You are a fucking retard, the memory is Radahn asking Miquella to help him conquer the Stars, and Miquella accepting that if it means he becomes his Kijg Consort so that he can save everyone through Godhood
>>485041317https://www.tumblr.com/acapelladitty/755286665449308160/bereft-of-grace?source=share
Stop being gay
dull combat did my head in
>>485054978They are going to make the next game with level scaling. It's the lazy way for developers to make a game harder instead of actually balancing it around levels.
>>485054978you are right but the normie NPC cattle (90% of their paying customers) wont agree so they wont do it lol
>>485054976Metyrs Face has GEQs symbol/godslayer incarntationAs did Jolan and Anna armour chest peice.
>>485055017>only miq talks in the cutscene>radahn literally nowherestop sucking off youtubers head canons
>want to try lightning build>have to go either full faith for incants scaling or full dex for weapon scalingwhy strfags are allowed to have hybrid fire builds but there is not a single dex scaling seal?
>>485054497From had no idea how to balance the DLC while also keeping it le hard so they overtuned all the enemies and made it so you have to eat fragments to keep up
NG+ is actually really fun in that now it finally feels like my character is the chosen elden lord because I just stop everything with my Level 150 build>divine tower of caelid>"okay this might be the first boss I die to as its end game scaled">crab + physick to buff magic and damage reduction>ranni's dark moon to debuff godskin magic resist>3 - 4 glint stone ice crag to apply frostbite>dodge a few attacks and punish with about 3 or 4 carian slicers that chunks his health>he begins phase 2 wind up>use piercing strike against him>he goes for a fireball>use piercing strike again to punish him which staggers him>switch to magic infused misericorde and ripose>leave him with 0 health>tap him and he dies>all over in 30 seconds or lessFinally feel like an elden lord. Poor old margit didn't even have time to engage phase 2.
>>485054978The next From game needs to just be an action game with minimal gay rpg elements
is the lake of rot the same color as romina’s rot?
>>485055209Go FTH/ARC and use the Flowerstone Gavel>b-but the weapon doesn't have lightning damageWho cares, this is L2ring.
>>485053763can you share your current build?
>>485055293romina's pink as fuck
>>485054262Attack him and he won't die because one, he's Ranni's shadow, and two Fromsoft made it impossible to permanently miss out on Ranni's quest unless you run out of dew.
>>485053992you cant avoid that death leap she does if she is right up against you, you can't avoid that shit and sometimes she will just do it without warning
>>485055293The colour of the Scarlet rot goes from blood red to light pink to bright pink in the DLC.It is the same colour but of course it would be we know their connection
>>485055238was this seriously a post about beating a NG+1 godskin at level 150
>>485055378The anime slash bubble appears a fixed distance in front of her. To dodge it up close, you roll past her.
So why does no one care that miyazaki mentioned that marika and ranni rape your tarnished in their respective endings.
>>485055378if only she could be staggered, parried, or rolled away from
>>485055209You can make a hybrid lightning build with STR/FTH and the Death Knight gear.
I'm starting to think Messmer's Flame is similar to that of Destined Death. He has shadowy deep red fire n& when I look at the Black Blade spell it looks an awful lot like Messmer's colors. Perhaps Messmer & Melina are twins both cursed with abyssal flame. Melina's is obviously Destined Death & she also wields Ghostflame & oversees the Death Rite Birds,
>>485055542>marika and ranni rape your tarnishedYou can't rape the willingAlso Marika is dead in Rannis ending right, shes turns to golden dust and is blown away in the wind after Ranni turns to you with the moon behind her
>>485055432Yeah. Did I not beat him?
>>485055628Messmer's flame has none of the effects of Destined Death. Even Black Flame retained some effect after losing Destined Death.Messmer's flame has red and black because there are two elements mixed in it. The core is normal red flame, the black is the influence of the 'abyssal serpent' which eats away at the flame. The serpent's influence is what makes his flame move with a life of its own.We'll never get more lore about what the abyssal serpent is or why it's power eats away at flame because fromsoft didn't write any. They just wanted the vibe.
>>485055350It's still under advisement, I'm a bit sloppy when I make characters cause I'm almost always focused on PvE instead of invasions & duels & I like to try things out.Vig 50End 20Mind 25 (thinking of increasing this with a respec)Dex 40Fth 36 (wanted that sweet lightning gun)Arc 60Can't remember the values on the other stuff
would anyone on PC like to co-op malenia?site of grace: haligtree rootssl: 115wl:+10/+25
Hey /vg/, could someone please instruct me on how to merge regulation.bin for mods?I've looked up Yabber/Rune Bear, but that doesn't work anymore, and I don't understand how to use Witchy.I'm slow, would really appreciate help.
>>485055908pass: erg
>>485055908wait for me
>>485055857Right black flame = snakes even Rykard's lava gets a bit of black cast toI just think it's interesting. You know, out of all the candidates for Messmer's dad I'm surprised I didn't see anyone volunteer Malikith
>>485054039We don't know for sure, but various items describe the crucible as being evolution, a sort of primordial lifeforce that was worshipped before the Erdtree and the Golden Order. Some NPCs have horns, wings etc which was considered sacred before being villainized and stigmatized by Marikas Golden Order. In the DLC it was expanded upon with the whole spiral-theme in the tower builder civilization.You can look up talismans, items and spells that have the word crucible and spiral in them for more.
>>485055961what is your ign?
i wish i could copy characters so i could keep 1 for ng and another for ng+
>>485056020mildred. left my sign at the grace
>>485056038you can
>>485056038i wish i was a fish
>Buffing a weapon with Magic/Fire/Holy/Lightning costs resources and lasts for a limited time>Infusing a weapon with Magic/Fire/Holy/Lightning is free, lasts forever and gives you better damageWhy is FROM like this?
>>485056072what the... how
>>485054796Well I recently switched to Dryleaf Feet & the Whirlwind AoW but I don't know why everyone likes it. It's slow & doesn't cover a lot of ground. You'll just float there kicking while the bird warrior cleaves your HP. Will probably return to Palm Blast
>>485055858>50 vig>20 enddisgusting viglet
>>485056089Wow... how come? A full fish, or like a mermaid?
>>485056004Besides the meme of white women fucking dogs theres 0 reason to think Melikith is the father of anyone. He was created to control Marika like Blaidd was to control Ranni as they;re Empyreans (What happened to the other Empyreans, Malenia and Miquella shadows?)
>>485056004>all the candidatesThere is one candidate, radagon. Otherwise he wouldn't have red hair.
>>485055857The snakes are an hornsent curseA lot of objects, armor and builds have snake imagery, especially spiraling snakes. It's a curse to Marika which affected Messmer, just like Melina hides a curse by herself tied to Death most likely
>>485056208>not 55 vigor to reach 60 with godricks runeinefficient
>>485056138infusions reduce base damage and you need to scale with multiple stats to get damage back up to paritybuffing allows higher damage on builds with lower stats
Is it invader cope when they lose even though they have like a 5x advantage against host players.
Dark souls had better lore
>>485056198through means from software would deem... inappropriate activity detected
TWO LOADS OF DLC SLOPPA INCOMING
>>485056380dark souls was several games ago
>>485056138Buffing it gives you more AR if done correctly. Infusing limits what you're strong against because certain enemies have higher resistances to those elements. The only thing wrong with the system is that Buffing is too short, but if you were to increase how long you can buff your weapons for, I'd argue for a lower damage scaling on the buffs because it'd be way too powerful. Granted, I don't give a shit about balance in a single player game, but I like Co-Op'ing and certain builds already make buff builds like that a one-shot mechanic and I'm sick of dealing with shit like that.
>>485056380Invcels have the mental fortitude of a 6 year old
>>485056332maybe at sl 100 or something but at 167 you can just use morgott for +25% hp, or radahn for +15% hp/fp/stam
>>485056208In all fairness I was doing fine with 35 until I hit the final dungeon. The Divine beast & bird warriors are absolutely bitches. I can spell them down easily enough, UT I want to be able to melee them without healing. It took a while with knights too but I was able to work on it
>>485056138That's not always the case, some weapons gain more damage from a buff than an infusion. But yeah buffs lasting such a short time sucks, it was fun in DS2 buffing your sword and having it last for like 6 minutes.
invaders are stronger than 99% of hosts so even a 3v1 isn't even fair
>>485056020smooth moves
>>485056380A single invasion doesn't cause cope
>>485056293>>485056289It's just a joke. I know it's Radagon
This DLC really should have had a way to farm those arc runes more consistently. People might have actually used those great runes more if they did.
>>485056138Greases are a bit of a lost concept.In Dark Souls 1 they made sense because they were genuinely strong as fuck and helped carry your damage output earlygame because it was easy to miss upgrade materials.In Dark Souls 2 they were a core part of most builds because infused weapons were buffableIn Dark Souls 3, they were weak as fuck but still largely had a purpose because many annoying enemies had special interactions with certain damage types, and we had a handful of buffable elemental weapons like the LKGSBut in Elden Ring elemental weapons aren't buffable outside of WA buffs, pure melee builds have easy access to excellent elemental damage and greases are just kind of weak as fuck outside of the limited-mat status greases.
Is Gloried Attire the best looking armor piece? I think so.
The new drawstring grease lasts so long wtf
>>485056546I never used any weapon buffs in all of elden ring because of these fucking shit ass durationseven 3 minute flask runs out at radahn when I tried a winged tear build and I noped the fuck out of that40 seconds for a flame spear to give +95 fire damage? even that's shit30 seconds for FGMS? fucking pointless20 seconds for talisman temp buffs? completely worthless for anything but all-in meme webms of killing a boss in 1 hit with 20 prebuffs
>>485056064>>485056591>the one time she actually bothered to use waterfowl dance in phase 2 was after she'd been edging in the air that entire part of the fight>nearly got deleted from full 2100 hpi fully expected another funny flower pop but it was actually NOT
>nooo the host has 2 helpers, this is so not fair, now it’s a 3 vs 100(me and all the enemy npcs) wahhhh being invader is so hard
>>485056627The best looking DLC armor piece is Ansbachs hat.But if we're talking about sets, it's either Black Knight or Solitude.
>>485056621its called invadingthoughever i think killing invaders should also bestow rune arcs. but i also think invasions should never be 1v3, instead either 1v2 or 2v3
Invasions should be an opt-in system like the co-op mod.People have no right to force their way into my game when I'm playing with friends just because they're a loner virgin who doesn't have anyone to play with and wants to try and ruin other peoples fun with his sweatlord youtube meta build.I'm glad From are gutting and will continue to gut the invasion system, I reckon it will be opt-in or removed entirely next game.
>>485056627God no. Armor of Night & fire knight is about it
>>485056625>But in Elden Ring elemental weapons aren't buffable outside of WA buffs, pure melee builds have easy access to excellent elemental damage and greases are just kind of weak as fuck outside of the limited-mat status greases.a few are and get sweet damage, like clayman's harpoon
>swift slash nerfed>subhuman niggers are now spamming Impenetrable Thorns
mouse and keyboard or controller?
What's the better choice in the DLC if I want to maximize damage on Ancient Dragon Lightning?Priestess Heart Transformation + Flowerstone Gavel or Florissax Summon + Death Knight Armor?Transformation has a whopping 20% boost but at the cost of armor and poise which is why I'm not sure if it's the best choice.
>>485056427
>>485056808controller, nigger
>>485056808whichever you like
>>485056004YJK>>485055857It's a manifestation of the Crucible because Marika was cursed when she killed the Fell God and killed the Mother of Truth that became the Formless Mother (found by the bloodfiends)The DLC provides all answers if you look into it
>>485056818But you get to be a dragon...
>>485056201use poison flower blooms twice
>>485056760If you lose 3v1 you might have some sort of mental deficiency
>>485056872>killed the mother of truthlmao lorelet conspiracies get funnier every day
>>485056803There's also the gravity bomb spell which can get you through walls
>>485056760It's already opt-in nerd, you have to summon others or use the tongue if you want to get invaded. You can't get invaded out of the blue.>b-but I want to have my cake and eat it tooWhat are you, a woman?
>>485056627Hell no.
>>485055858and you're using the occult dane's/dryleaf? with rock heart transformation?
>>485056803even though its kill potential has been reduced from broken to only great, swift slash is still incredibly good for managing distance between you and the ganksquad. and the weapon weighs 2.0 so there's no real reason not to have it tucked in your back pocket. but idk i feel like this game's pvp discussion is thoroughly controlled by a handful of sweats who do things arbitrarily based on how they feel and everyone listens to them because they hardswap to better hats mid fight and have a nasally voice
>>485056908What does it do besides some poison? Can I keep Bleed on my dryleaf?
>>485056925Yeah because the turbo sweatlord with the most min/maxed broken build in the game possible invading in with an entire world of enemies to help them so in reality it's 3 vs the entire level + the invader is TOTALLY fair when you're set up for PvE and don't have all the broken bullshit yet.I will enjoy your tears in the next game when invasions cease to be a thing. Co-op mod has shown to From that there is a demand for seamless co-op and not for invasions.Simple as.
>>485056581My favourite is when the phantoms are so afraid of the bad red man they forget they're supposed to be protecting their VIP
Biorr of the Twin Fangs...I think Solitude set is kinda close to his, but the Helmet obviously doesn't work. What helmet should I use for this cosplay build?
>>485057028Bleed cause I figured Bleed procs will happen fast. I could try occult
I will practice the chainsaw glitch and then get summoned by others and use it against the boss.
>>485057090Why is your Webm so choppy and laggy?
>>485055207No youtuber says this because youtubers jumped directly into making half assed "lore" videos about Radahn mind controlled. If you actually search and read the items instead you will see that Radahn only conquered the Stars thanks to Miquella, so it was clearly the vow. You will also see that the Starscourge Heirloom, which Radahn had it engraved, narrates the tale of him doing this alone (and the fact that the description specifically says this is the tale it narrates, instead of actually citing events like any other item shows this was a lie/propaganda).It's clear what was Miquella's part of the vow, Radahn used not just strength and gravity but also Miquella's light to conquer the Stars
Zaki can I get a dlc that's entirely bug enemies and rot.
Redtards are all friendless virgin losers that can only enjoy themselves by trying to ruin the fun of people that are the opposite.Simple as.Fact checked by independent parties.Redfags cry below.
So she unironically did nothing wrong?
Is the stun on sleep or madness longer?
>>485057087>>485057235this website is +18
>want to do the nimble wandering swordmaster meme >no poise and no phy def means I get interrupted and dunked on by every heavy enemy out thereGorging myself on crab gets old fast lads
>>485057235you do seem like the kind of guy who has friends and has sex
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah, about your lord though...
>>485057021Messmer pants & armor of night chest & arms make for a really hot look
why are from software so bad at armor designs
>>485057318After I kill an invcel, I have steamy passionate sex with my host and the other phantom on top of his corpse.
Placidusax is cooler than Bayle
>>485057202Because for some reason EAC is messing with OBS and randomly shitting up the recordings. I'm not sure how to make it stop.
>>485057281She did everything wrong. Idk if she did anything right
>>485056818but the dragon form is ugly and armor is cool.In all seriousness, I thought about it some more and the armor/poise probably isn't as big of a deal as I'm making it out to be. Ancient Dragon Lightning minmax builds want to kill bosses as fast as possible, so defensive values can be ignored in favor of amplifying the power of the spell.2x Gravel Seal + Dragon Form/Buff + Golden Vow + Lightning Scorpion + Flock Talisman + Godfrey Icon + Sword Talisman + Flowerstone Gavel Lightning Debuff = Big damage
>>485052832Did he cure them or did he break them out of the jar and fucked them to death
>>485057309"Endure."
>>485057420based
>>485057165bleed is underwhelming, poison with flower blooms twice works VERY WELL and is VERY FUN
>>485057281DLC made her a sympathetic monster instead of a completely evil monster. Still a monster though.
Total Messmer death
>>485057281She did a lot of things wrong but purging the Hornsent wasn't one of them.
>>485056925With how the game is balanced right now? No way. It's way, WAY too easy to kill people in a single hit or a single combo.Sword of Damnation? With the right build and minimal preparation, I can hit for over 1.5k with that thing on an almost guaranteed grab.Ansbach Bow? 800+ per shot.Pata? Fucking insane combo and run down potential. Backhand Blades still easily one of the more powerful weapons, I can do over 800+ damage in a single L1 on most players with my berserk set up. The game is an utter mess. Damage is scaled for the insane PVE content, so it's easy to kill people in a single hit or a single combo.I'm an invader and honestly, I'm bored out of my mind.If I don't kill people in seconds, I die in seconds half the time. I love the DLC, but it's been a complete and utter shitfest for balance. At the same time though, I don't care that much about Invading to cry about it because I don't think the game should be balanced around Invasions. Invasions are a mini game.
>>485057281She didn't marry me
how many rememberance filler chests are there in the dlc 3?
>>485057549I'll give it a spin. If not I'm back to palm blast cause that move is sexy as hell
I don't know anything about the lore.I go and kill the thing because it gives me dopamine.Simple as.
>>485057591Cool webm.
>>485057591>jumping heavy makes the infinite tracking delayed thrust just bug out and miss on its ownlmao glad to see fromsoft never fixed the thrust bug.
>>485057591The posture attack looks like you're ripping off his balls
>>485057591awful fashion but nice webm
>>485057683Based canon tarnished
>>485057591Why does it look like he moves in slow motion? in game hes fast as fuck.
167 is the objectively correct level, yes? You can invade 150 and 200
Could you imagine if the DLC gave us a fifth Talisman Pouch?
>>485057663The wiki says 3 but I only found 2.
>elden ring>pvplol
>>485057829200 baby!
>>485057591>backstep talismandidn't beat it
Does anytroon want to pvp in the arena.......?
>you will never be invited by Messmer to join the annual Scadutree chalice Scadupaella Festival >you will never have drinking contests with Gaius>you will never hit on Rellana, fail spectacularly and laugh about it with your army brosBring me back to the crusade days lads, this Elden Lord bullshit is too much for me
>same combat for 15 fucking yearsmiyazaki i beg you, make a new combat system if you're gonna make more souls. biggest departure we had was bloodborne but then we went right back in DaS 3
>>485057735>good hitboxes is a bug now lol
>>485057663How many what chests??
Rauh ancient ruins>bloodfiends>fly mutants>hornsent>furnace golems>scorpions>crucible knightit has that B team quality, with a pinch of hired interns.
>>485057603She lied about the purpose of the crusade, placed the entire blame on her son, and trapped him in a prison with an army of rapists and murders so her dirty secrets wouldn't be known.The purge was just a means to a end for her, and had nothing to do with justice.
I miss anor londo 3v3 shitshows
>>485057919You could just play another game?
>>485057852>>4850576631 at each finger ruin and one at the Manus Metyr Cathedral
>>485057829i wish i could backhand katanas
>>485057963The graves with headless bodies that give you rememberances
>>485057829Is 200 good for PvE?
>>485057810Because you're panicking. He's really not that fast.
>>485057591>that interrupt fuck me
>>485058000>lame zone>recycled enemiesi've seen this episode
>>4850580173v3 was inherently unbalanced because of the numbers advantage on invader side
>>485057919>>485058009>She lied about the purpose of the crusade, placed the entire blame on her sonSource?
>>485053159>t. seething hornigger
>>485058026i play lots of games and i loved ER. but i think fromsoft is truly special and have the ability and talent to innovate more than they do. they proved this with bloodborne and sekiro
>>485057810Everything feels faster when you're the one playing and just coming to grasps with his animations
>>485057683There are two layers to lore:The literal step-for-step narrative that guides the player and the NPCs you meet. Ansbach is afraid of Miquella but is motivated by a sense of duty to honor the dignity of his deceased lord, that's lore. You are on a journey to find the fell flame of the giants to burn the impenetrable thorns blocking you from entering the erdtree and becoming Elden Lord, that's lore.The second layer is the vague contextual stuff in the background that exists to flesh out the world. This layer in fromsoft games has never, ever been more than just a bare patchwork of incoherent ideas that don't actually mesh together, some of which are intentionally vague because they're leftovers from cut content, others just outright mistakes because they changed too much before launch (ie that one description mentioning a "Dusk-Eyed Queen") and so on. Trying to piece together a coherent world vision from this is an exercise in futility--there isn't one. Half the item descriptions are written by interns and codemonkeys as lorem ipsum and left that way for release because it genuinely didn't matter to Fromsoft. It's all vibes, and if you get the vibes to make your gameplay feel cool then you're already a loremaster.
>>485057591Idc I used a 100 fire resist fingerprint shield get on my level
>>485058049do you mean for coop? most casuals are between 150 and 200 in the dlc
>>485053159Mohg wasn't a good boy though.
>>485058174You're a faggot
>>485057810it's you who is slow
>>485058229>that's lore.No, that's plot you fucking imbecile
I did not care for the DLC weapons
Wish the DLC map was actually real and useful
>>485057829I stopped at 160 but I keep wanting to level more since I have so many runes
>>485057847too fun for Miyazaki
>>485057959That attack has perfect tracking and turns something like 240 degrees to track you.You're avoiding it not because it has a 'good hitbox' but because the little flinch that happens when you hit something makes the hitbox fling itself around wildly, and in the case of thrust attacks almost always causes them to fly way off target and not hit where they should. Pvpfags have been bitching about this bug for ages, but it's reliably abusable in pve and several nohitters/speedrunners exploit it by chucking a throwing knife at select thrust attacks instead of dodging them.
Ongbal uses CE to slow down the game and speeds it up in the editor.
If I want to use claymore, great katana, longsword, etc with qualify scaling, is it ever worth it to actually level both STR and DEX and infuse with standard or quality, or should I go full STR or full DEX and infuse with heavy or keen?
What are some helms that go nice with Blaidd's chest?
>>485057735>>jumping heavy makes the infinite tracking delayed thrust just bug out and miss on its ownThe angle of the thrust implies there is some space below that's safe, and jumping attacks work like that against a lot of bosses in the base game
>>485058475Can't go wrong with greathelm
>>485058463>works cited
Where is my dragon tits, anons? You told me there would be dragon tits, where is my Godwyn's approved dragon tits? Where?
>>485058358I love the Great Katanas.They're fucking cool. I usually hate Katanas, but I loved those. The Smithscript weapons were fun. The Cirque 100% deserved a nerf, but the others didn't. They're now the worst weapons in their own field. The Axe is still crazy fun to use though.
>>485058463>no source
>>485058463Proofs?
>>485057671be sure to give me a heads up on how it goes
>>485058397>You're avoiding it not because it has a 'good hitbox' but because the little flinch that happens when you hit something makes the hitbox fling itself around wildly, and in the case of thrust attacks almost always causes them to fly way off target and not hit where they should.Any actual proof of this weird headcanon?
>>485058352These games have no plot. Ansbach's character and motivation have no bearing on the plot of the DLC and is entirely skippable. The journey for the giantsflame is arbitrary context because you have no narrative motivation for becoming elden lord except "that's progress to more content" and your quest can easily instead become "incinerate all that distinguishes and divides," at which point the giantsflame becomes meaningless (but you still need to go there, because gameplay).These games have no plot. Sekiro had a plot. Bloodborne had a narrative hidden underneath its lore but no plot. No souls game has ever had a plot, nor have they genuinely tried.
>>485058358The only ones I liked were the Damnation sword and the Black Steel stuff
what's your opinion on people who tried to cosplay as NPCsthen gave up and had to wear the clownsuit to beat a boss?
>>485058463Ongbal posts here.
Why can't from balance ranged? Either dogshit or overbearingly powerful no inbetween
I did not care for the miquella lore
>>485058692Clownsuits are based
>>485058358Friendship ended with Guts sword. Ancient Meteor-chan is my new weaponfu
>>485058463how does he do the audio
>>485058662>No souls game has ever had a plotThe game takes place in the Medieval land of Verdite, which was once terrorised by evil powers. In ancient times the evil was defeated by a hero later dubbed the Dragon. After his victory, the Dragon disappeared and became known as a legend, with a cathedral built in his honor in the forests where his deeds took place. During the game's events, the land has fallen prey to evil forces once again, with the locals' only hope being a prophecy that the Dragon will return.[2][3] The protagonist of King's Field, royal heir Jean Alfred Forester, comes to the infested monastery in search of his father, who led a squad of soldiers into the catacombs beneath the monastery graveyard. Fighting his way through the catacombs, Forester meets the elf Miria, who warns that Verdite's king Reinhardt III has gained a dark power. Descending deeper into the catacombs, Forester learns that Reinhardt II, who is Reinhardt III's father, poisoned his brother, Reandalf VIII, who has been resurrected by the dark power, and that his own father was killed defeating Reinhardt II's black knight guardian. Retrieving his father's hereditary Dragon Sword and killing the dark wizard creating the monsters, he again meets Miria and her master the dragon god Guyra, who grants him the power to kill Reinhardt III and seal the "door of darkness", a portal opened by the cursed line of Reinhardt so they could rule the world. Forester confronts and kills a demonically-transformed Reinhardt III. Hailed as a hero, Forester is made the new king.
I can't do it.It is too much I say.I will say it.Greatshield guard counter builds are horrifically boring to play and so much less effective than simply dodging.
>>485058723it's inherently incompatible with the melee based combat system
>>485058397>but it's reliably abusable in pve and several nohitters/speedrunners exploit it by chucking a throwing knife at select thrust attacks instead of dodging them.just sounds like the throwing knife animation makes you duck bro
>>485058463A generation of starcraft-based natural selection has just produced the next step of korean evolution, with heartrates as fast as rodents and the reflexes of wild rabbits. The addition of unlicensed chinese energy drinks to their market allows them to transcend human limits. He doesn't need to slow the game down because to his perception it's already intolerably slow.
>>485058662Does anyone actually like the Dark Soul.tm narrative? Why can't they just make a fully immersive single player game like Sekiro?
>>485049498Because they are twin sisters, they use to share the same body, before ranni used the rune of death of herself.
>>485058821okay let me see you medium roll through the gaius fightill wait
>>485058821greatshields are gay. deflect tear guard counter is lit.
>>485058974But that's how I killed him the first time I fought him.Including through his charge.
>>485058463>>485058718Proof?
>>485058939we already have a trillion of those games, who can offer the same lore-based narrative that fromsoft does? i'd rather keep that
why are there so many hosts who summon 2 people but don't help fight at all"?
How was Miquella able to shed his flesh in the Realm of Shadow when his flesh is in a blood-filled cocoon in Mogwyn PalaceFor that matter, why does touching his zombie arm allow you to go to the Realm of Shadow in the first place?
>>485058821What weapon are you using?Now that I think about it, you could use that exploding Flail from the DLC on a guard counter build, that would probably be pretty fun.
>>485058397>the attack missed because the character is crouching vs>the attack missed because the little flinch that happens when you hit something makes the hitbox fling itself around wildly, and in the case of thrust attacks almost always causes them to fly way off target and not hit where they should
>>485059120Probably sick of dying. I kind of don't mind if they really are that bad at the boss. It's better they just stay out of my way.
>>485058974You can medium roll through Gaius 's charge, it is just less reliable than Light roll (duh) But let's be honest, even with Light roll you are not guaranteed to evade his charge. In the end i decided that Medium roll was better for me since i took less damage per failed to dodge charge dvswm
am I locked out of the rest of leyndell now?
cast 3 impenetrable thorns with my arcane build and chunk a boss down to 2/3 as a COOPER
>>485059120It just wouldn't feel fair if it was 3v1
>>485056960Long ago, a subjugated tribe discovered a twisted deity amongst the ravages of war, and they were transformed into bloodfiends. The mother of truth was their savior.A talisman engraved with the lore of an outer god. Raises arcane. The clan, who lost everything in the great fires, peered upon the corpse of their ancestor, normally an act of sanctity, and saw in its shadow a twisted deity. The clan had suffered such torment that the horrible thing was taken as an object of worship.The blood is said to have fallen from the Formless Mother's wound. Never will it dry, never will it rot.The Formless Mother was the Mother of Truth, but also the Fell God of Flame, her association with wounds and suffering comes after Marika's betrayal and ascension to Godhood and is still tied to cursed Blood. The Dung Eater rune is called of the Fell Curse. The Fell God/Mother of Truth are both associated with Omen, wounds, cursed blood,.. Arguably, Marika stole grace from the corpse of the Mother of Truth aka Fell God, and the Mother of Truth became the Formless Mother. The Goddess lost her flame, which was stolen from her alongside her grace, and craves wounds and bloods from her subjects because of the power of Bloodflame.Messmer's Flame and the kindling of Melina are the same, but Messmer's flame is darker because eaten away by the Abyssal Serpent. Messmer hated his Fire bevause it was the Fire Marika stole
>>485059164I just slapped on the giant slayer.Trying to experiment into the mind of the greatshield player.What should I be using?
>>485059154>How was Miquella able to shed his flesh in the Realm of Shadow when his flesh is in a blood-filled cocoon in Mogwyn Palace>For that matter, why does touching his zombie arm allow you to go to the Realm of Shadow in the first place?Uhh, chud, read the room? Stop asking questions that make people uncomfortable!
>>485059287yes hope you got everything you wanted from there
>>485057910The power of headcanon loretism is your friend, anon>Do all base game questlines to the point right before the NPC dies or disappears or whatever so you have a lot of friends>Pick Marika's ending, progress Haligtree to just before Malenia, then go to the Shadow Lands after uniting the Lands Between under the banner of a new Elden Lord>Do the detour around Rellana>Bring his mom along so you can get Messmer as your adoptive son>Send him to therapy so he just fucks the Carian knightfu who has the hots for him instead of crying over the mom who you're banging>Maybe grab Gaius as well idk>Break Miquella's spell, bring out all the salvageable NPCs like Moore, maybe tie Leda up and drag her along>Fuck Enir-Ilim. Leave the Shadow Lands, Messmer and Rellana can go live at Caria Manor or something>Bring all the abandoned pieces of Miquella you found with you>Miquella and Radahn come back through the gate wanting to take over? Yeah good luck invading a united Lands Between, I have your mom as my wife and I'm probably RL300 by this point>Kill Radahn a second time, stick his compassion and feelings and fears and love back in Miquella and force him to go apologize to his sister and live at his shitty treeYour days are spent ruling, your evening meals are cooked by Boggart, you get to cuddle with Marika at night. You don't need to worry about any leftover Greater Will servant-creatures fucking up your rule either unlike literally all previous Elden Lords.You WILL heal the world and not submit to Miyazaki's grimslop
>>485058762umm, shut up!?
>>485056627Isn't this the set that was sold by Gostoc in the unpatched version of the game?
>>485059185>all the explosions happen at the same place, therefore, you deal 13x the damagevs>all the explosions happen at the same place, but only one of them do damage because once the enemy gets hit by the first explosion they gain immortality and nullify all the subsequent twelve explosions, which happen a fraction of a second after each othername the recently nerfed weapon
best lore channel? currently listening to smoughtown, he doesn't seem to wildly speculate too much
>>485059287Yeah, and the sewers if you didn't tap the bonfire
>>485058939In practice the reason is that voice acting is expensive and building a game around narrative progression means actually having a clear plan at the start of development that you stick to all the way throughout, whereas every fromsoft game except Sekiro has been rewritten a dozen times and had its development scrapped and restarted at some point due to poor planning and management. The reason that NPCs in fromsoft games always talk in a weird vague manner and avoid naming other NPCs is because the vague voicework is the only stuff that survives the rewrites, and where they have none left they're forced to just use the "forgive me nanaya" lines that invoke a cut character from a storyline they abandoned months ago.The reason they would tell you is that a strict narrative necessitates a railroaded approach to story and world design that isn't compatible with the open-ended fantasy of an RPG and by keeping things deliberately vague they can make a game where motivations and context still work even if you start with the Master Key, skip Blighttown and kill Quelaag before talking to the Crestfallen guy. But then they would conveniently look the other way when you ask them about Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne's deliberately railroaded and linear structure despite the total absence of coherent or structured storytelling.
I just use Vow of the Indomitable to deal with any mechanic I don't understand.Gaius Charge? Vow.Messmer Snakes fucking everywhere? Vow.
>>485058358i thought the milady was very fun
>>485059279Just because it is unique doesn't mean it is good, anon. Case in point>Just randomly get the option to drug rape her for some fucking reasonBut why?
>>485058463Literally who
>Play as Str/Arc in preparation for the DLC>Reach Mohg>He rapes my ass>go back to being a mage and easiky defeat himGod I suck at this game...
>>485059287yea, but the ash version has new stuff to explore and lets you access new areas. you can still enter roundtable and sewers tho.
>>485059420I don't know but the beast incantations work like that for balance reasons
>>485059576you mean mental gymnastics reasons
>>485059506Wrong quote, meant for this>>485059104
>>485059506You're retarded. She gives her own sleep to placidusax, she stopped sleeped probably eons ago. You're helping her.
>>485059332Okay so let me get this straight, your evidence for the Formless Mother being dead is that the bloodfiends saw visions of her in the corpse of their ancestor. And you think she had a form and then became formless by dying, because while she's being explicitly referred to as formless, she's described as bearing a wound. A wound, despite being formless, and thus having no form to wound.Can you at least try a little harder with your headcanon?
>>485059572i never play mage in souls so when i try it feels hard because im not versed in your version of spacing or whatever
>>485050210>impenetrable thorns stacks its hitboxesSo don't fight in tight spaces dipshit>>485050262He saved the project you retard. The original director fucked up. Tanimura is the chad who rolled in and turned the mess the previous director made into Dark Souls 2. Fucking ignorant newfaggot.
>>485059506>But why?Because you killed Placidusax and know she's wasting her time?
>>485059719Why would flaccid jew sex need her sleep, nigger slept all the fucking time, as a matter of fact he slept permanently now i have his spells to vow for it
>>485059719>You're helping herYou're getting her fired so she'll want you to be her daddy let's be real her
>>485059506but it can be great. some of it is too obscure, but look at bloodborne
I hate how almost nothing has hyperarmor in this game. So many different spells and ashes of war and all it takes to knock you out of the animation is a rock unless you bloatmax and take on the highest poise armor you can find.
>>485059689The first explanation doesn't make sense so the only explanation is the "mental gymnastics", in contrast to the original post where the simpler explanation makes sense
The DLC was a perfect send off for ER as it leaves no desire to continue.I wish the whole of was as kino as Metyr quest or NPC gank fight. Unfortunately, Miyazaki's fetishes and cliches still rule
>>485059776>So don't fight in tight spaces dipshitlmao it's this faggot again
>>485059953>perfect send off>final boss is one of the worst pieces of shits in the history of fromsoft bosses
>>485058397Just because something has perfect rotational tracking doesn't really mean it can bend up and down, I think the game even hints at the spear not being able to hit you low by making it whiff if you get hit by the first hit
>>485059572str/arc gives you high posture damage and high bleed, if you still struggle, you're doing something wrong
>>485059440He's kinda dumb though. I rarely find him insightful. He just says what other channels say and occasionally something retarded and low IQ like when he wrote about the Divine Beast Dancing Lion pre-release and insisted the Grandam's speech had multiple subjects as opposed to just one subject: the spirit that possesses the Lion.
>Vragam means enemy in Russian>Vargram is an enemy you fightSasuga... Miyazaki-sama...
>>485059953>The DLC was a perfect send off for ERthis mediocre pile of dog shit is far from perfect
>>485059572You got filtered by one of the fairest, most well telegraphed bosses in the game.Why.
>>485056760>People have no right to force their way into my game when I'm playing with friendsErm, ackshully I do, evidenced by the fact that the developer has provided me with these little fingies that allow me to do exactly what you described.
>>485059154don't be so negative, stop trying to find sense in this gameit's not in the business of making sense it's dealing in shotas, waifus and feetmmm, feet
>>485050210>sword of night has unintended true combo with WAProbably always will its not that good and falls off past 150
>>485059989If it was capable of casually nuking everybody in one cast in any terrain, my win rate would be way way way up.
am I a dumb idiot if endurance is my highest stat (45) at lvl 100?I wanna wear my colossal weapon and tree sentinel set without gay great runes or talismans so im still pumping it...
>>485060242yes, very dumb
>>485060242If you're not dying all the time and having fun then there's no problem
>>485060242At that point vigor should be your highest stat and should be around 50-60
>>485060160forgot pic
>>485060178>uninfusable pure stat scaling weapon falls off as you approach statblob 99/99/99 Quality/Blood infusion territoryNo shit.
>>485060080>high posture damage and high bleed,I was using the executioner blade, it doesnt have bleed>>485060130>fairest, most well telegraphed bosses in the game.Bullshit, him pissing the whole area with flaming blood is annoying as hell
>>485060438>Morgott the 'cursed' Omen son, has five fingers and toes like a normal person and wears rags as he does not desire riches but to repair and protect the system his mother built>Godrick the grafted, the last son of the 'Golden lineage' born from Godfreys and maybe Godwyns male line, has 6 fingers and toes because hes that inbred and weak showing the corruption of fedual kingship
>>485060565All of his bloody flaming piss are all dodge-able nigga, you retarded
reckon they'll step up their combat next game?
>>485060116it's actually insane how we waited 2.5 years for an even more barren open world with worse legacy dungeons than the base game.
>>485060565That's still very good posture damage, I killed him with this sword around rl70, just be patient and dodge
>>485060725yeah the next game will learn far more into Bloodbornes and sekiros style of combat according to interviews, so high aggression and parries and not rolling
>>485060725idk how you would, er seems about as far as you can push the combat for this formula, gotta go in a more bloodborne/sekiro direction if you wanna take it further
>>485060725I don't think their next action game will use souls combat. We're probably heading into a game that's experimental in the same way that Sekiro was.
>>485059726No, The Mother of Truth was also the Fell God of Fire. Marika killer her, as we know from the base game lore, but in fact just as the base game reveals, she still lives and tge Fire Monks hide it. The DLC makes tge connection between Omen Curse, Fell God and Formless Mother. The Formless Mother was found in the wounds and corpses of the Bloodfiend clans during Messmer's war because of her ability to, while being formless, commune with those that associate themselves with wounds and blood sacrifices. The reasons she requires blood offerings and craves wounds is Bloodflame. Those afflicted by the Fell Curse (Omen) all have cursed blood.
>>485059575I completely forgot about the roundtable in Leyndell. I like the hub copy in Bloodborne a lot, and even in DaS3 I thought it was interesting when they reused the trope. But I just can't bring myself to care why the roundtable exists two places in ER.
>>485060887My only ask is no form of poise like original bb
>>485059889>You're getting her fired so she'll want you to be her daddy let's be real herThat's hot
i wish i could kiss my mimic nigga
does dragon form from rock heart give any stat buffs?
I'm still so fucking annoyed that Dragon Cult didn't get a Carian Slicer. God fucking dammit. ONE job you motherfuckers. And now it's all fucking over.
>>485060565>him pissing the whole area with flaming blood is annoying as hellIf you stay close to him during the second phase you rarely have to worry about the bloodflame on the floor since it'll all end up behind you as it splashes out from the end of his trident.
>>485061114Faith has Catch Flame.
>>485059506after killing bayle don't admit to giving her the potion. unless you want to brick the rewards for the quest
>>485060774open world is better structured and smaller dungeons are better. Wish they did legacy dungeons and quests better
>>485050983are these links not working or something?
>>485061152I don't give a shit about that. I want a cool Ancient Dragon Lightning Slicer.
>>485061120Several of his attacks spread it right in front of him and he'll periodically force you off with the blood rain.I killed him 9 times before the DLC to get all my invaders ready and most of them were between sl1 and sl 40. I eat, breathe and shit that fight. Sometimes the rng is bad and the floor is lava, it's just an unpredictable element of the fight.
>>485060080none of that is worth anything if you get staggered before landing anything.he probably has no POISE because he didn't level endurance
>>485061085
>>485060774Leyndell and Stormveil are absolutely peak zones and the rest are mediocre, get your head out of your ass.
>>485061267the dragons don't use anything like that
>>485061164>brick the rewardsWhat? Isn't it just>admitGet her ashes and her spell>don't admitGet her heart and her weapon
>>485060918>Fell God and Formless Mother are the same entity under two different namesAnon thats an interesting idea but I'll need proof. The body of the formless mother seems to BE a wound, since the bloodflame used in her incarntations is her blood. The Fell god is symbolised by the 8 circles around a ninith larger ciricle, we never see that imagery with the formless mother or her followers
>>485061372>I'll need prooflol
>>485061256Litterbox links have a timer on them https://litter.catbox.moe/52ikaw.webm
>>485061332They do form their lightning into weapons. That's well-established. Nothing fucking stopped Fromsoft from giving us a spell like that.
>>485061348her heart and weapon are superior. Her spirit ash is worthless. You can get her spell without admitting desu
How do u all feel overall about the dlc? what did u like? what did u not like? what did u want from it?
>>485060565>Bullshit, him pissing the whole area with flaming blood is annoying as hell.Not even remotely a problem and only punishes people who position poorly.You can simply forget it exists entirely if playing correctly.
>boss uses spell>its the most destructive shit ever>you use the same spell>no range, no poise, deals less damage than weapon art
Do you still get the rewards for completing Ansbach's and Thiloier's questlines if you don't summon them for Radanh? The fight is unironically harder with them cause it inflates Radahn's HP to ridiculous levels.
>>485061492I wanted poison sorceries and I didn't get any
>>485061492The DLC feels like they crammed 3 DLCs worth of ideas into it yet they still managed to make it feel empty.
>>485061538I love "weapons" like the Death Ritual Spear and Stormhawk Axe being glorified catalysts for one spell.
>>485061298>I killed him 9 times before the DLC to get all my invaders ready and most of them were between sl1 and sl 40. I eat, breathe and shit that fight. Sometimes the rng is bad and the floor is lava, it's just an unpredictable element of the fight.I know you're full of shit because unlike you I've actually done multiple SL1 runs against him and other sub level 40 characters and his bloodflame was never once an issue. Not even remotely. RNG isn't even a part of it since how you position is the only thing that matters.Stop larping.
>>485061538>dancer uses a new, quick fire spell that oneshots me>beat her and try it>deals tickle damagethe fucking NPC enemies are the most dishonest thing about this game, misrepresenting cool shit as good when it's not allowed to be worthwhile when you use it.
>>485061603yes.
>>485050264fuck, it even has the Haligtree sigil's double helix.
So why did Marika stick these random niggas in evergaols instead of just executing them
what happens after I beat the elden beast? Do I have to go to NG+ immediately?
>>485061492Overall satisfied. It wasn't going to live up to the hype no matter what.
>>485061538>boss uses spell>its the most destructive shit everlol>jumps
>Shadow Keep+Specimen Storehouse and Belurat+Enir Ilim are both S tier designs and when taken as combined experiences, they rival the very best Fromsoft level design>Fromsoft split each into halves or thirds so they can never reach their true peakThey fucked up big time. Especially with Rauh which is clearly their attempt to blur overworld and dungeon distinctions but really it's just intolerable slow to explore on foot and not designed for multiplayer [level design relies on spirit springs]This is the real letdown of the DLC. Forget hopes and dreams of new items and spellsthat were unfulfilled, forget lore too. They didn't even put out a single level as good as Volcano Manor or Stormveil.
>>485061603>The fight is unironically harder with them cause it inflates Radahn's HP to ridiculous levels.you didn't beat the game.summoning is summoning and it makes the game easier. you say it inflates radahns hp? you're a liar, it says so here on my fbi crime statistics
>>485061298>Several of his attacks spread it right in front of him and he'll periodically force you off with the blood rain.Absolute bullshit.There are only two attacks that do this.One is the AoE blood pool and the only other possible attack that puts some near him is his vertical blood toss since it's a straight line away from him.There is no other attack that will put bloodflame right in front of him when you're playing correctly.
>>485061849ecks dee
>no closure on malenia, melina, godwyn, GEQ, marika, radagon, crucible or GWi want a refund
>>485061804No, the arena just turns back into Radagon's tree stump with a grace and Marika's corpse in the middle. If you walk up and interact you can choose whichever endings you have unlocked. Otherwise you can just teleport out and keep messing around.
>>485061764There's no "death" in the golden order.
>>485061934does it send me to NG+ as soon as I pick one?
>>485049678"you used the pvp sword in pvp? faggot, I'll used an op weapon on you." shut the fuck up blueberry
What was the whole deal with melina anyways.
Awww yeah! Look who just beat Moghwin Lord of Blood second try! Yep, that's right I did! And with the help of my max level Mimic tear and my trusty max level Rivers of Blood and my Purifying Crystal Tear all of which I looked up how to get before hand (heh thanks Fextra Life I know you guys got my back). Oh yeah this is Elden Ring Gaming!
>>485061838Wow! Player has a way ot dealing with enemy's attacks in this game? You sure got me here, buddy!
>>485060085any other recommendations?
>>485061764technically nobody that you've killed in the game has ever died. except the immortal bosses like godrick who don't respawn somehow despite you killing them without using destined death.
>>485061492Positive overall, but I can't help but feel slightly underwhelmed by how it all endedAs a collection of levels, enemies and items to get, I think it's as good as any area From have ever made, and the density of content as well as the effort put into designing the world around visible landmarks you can pursue at your own leisure is fantastic, and it's essentially what I wanted the back half of the base game to be in the first place. If I have any complaints, it's that From still refuses to provide any concrete answers to any of the mysteries they pose, and that shtick has only gotten more grating over time, I can only stand so much vague gesturing towards plot threads and ideas that they never actually want to explore. At a minimum, it would have been nice to get another Great Rune and get at least a marginally different ending, but instead the culmination of this entire saga seems to just be the revelation that Miquella wanted Radahn to be his champion, which is mildly interesting but illuminates nothing about why things got to that point
>>485061675I can't even fit them all in a screencap, get fucked nigger.
>>485062020Yeah, choosing an ending sends you into NG+. But there is no reason to actually pick one before you want to go into NG+ either way.
>>485061114I made a STR, FTH and got 2 gravelstone seals but I felt like the damage was extremely mediocre for all dragon cult incantation, do you need arcane and use the communion seal stead or something?
>>485062020no, you have to trigger that manually from the roundtable grace
>>485061489So if i drugged her i get 3 rewards instead of 2?
>>485061987Except there is, we kill people all over the place long before we beat Maliketh up and release Destined Death back into the world. Similarly the Shattering was a huge ass civil war, there's corpses everywhere. Volcano Manor's Recusants are also going around hunting people.>>485062124
>>485061925Malenia has been put to sleep, and we don't know when she was bloom again.Melina is dead, which means the GEQ is dead.Godwyn is half dead, and gets his own ending in the base game.Marika got her origin story, and is dead by the end of the game, and gets full closure in Ranni's ending.Radagon is dead.Crucible got a ton of lore in this DLC.GW stopped giving a shit about the Land's Between and is now explained to be the very cosmos itself.
>>485061316how does that invalidate what he said? the dlc dungeons are even worse with not a single great one
>>485062123Kosmos, Tarnished Archaeologist, Ratatoskr... I prefer all of them to Smough.
>>485062146Guess you just summoned someone to kill him for you since you clearly don't understand his fight.Must suck to be you.
They need to move the Radahn NPC summon sign inside the arena so his hp isn't buffed. He's difficult enough with 100%.
>>485062293thanks
>>485062262the dlc open world is better than the base game open world but not a fan of the forced exploration which means there might be 5 skibidi fragments that are lost somewhere on the map
>>485062480>summoning>still complaining about difficultylmao
>>485062551summoning makes the fight harder, that's his point
>>485062293>SmoughDidn't he say that Marika was the Gloam Eyed Queen?Honestly that one is something I can believe.
>>485062293>RatatoskrFuck this guy. I know it sounds silly to say that my time is valuable while shitposting on 4chan but I have never witnessed a content creator put so many meaningless words into their scripts. I saw a video on him on some zelda shit and it was 9min of "uhh this is just my opinion alright?" and then 1min of his actual point.
>>485062210why would dragon communion boost dragon cult spells. Your problem could have stemmed from a lot of things: Not enough FTH over STR, Talisman Loadout, upgrade level on your primary casting seal, lack of buff spells, physick loadout, etc.
>>485062251Recusants are hunting people to feed to Rykard live.Most enemies all respawn because they can't truly dieDemigods remain alive in their boss room after beatenRadahn is stuffed into Alexander's jarThere's no death in the lands between, just a miserable, terminal decline while everyone waits in queue to be reborn by the erdtree.
>>485062510>the dlc open world is better than the base gameperhaps but that doesn't really say much. the open world is gorgeous and incredible the first time you see it, but super boring both in the base game and dlc
>>485062251Immortality is retardedly inconsistent in Elden Ring>Sellen can't be killed because the stars are in stasis even though literally everyone else can be killed because.... SHE JUST CANT OK??>Godwyn needed to be killed with destined death but he's the only demigod with this requirement, all other demigods can be killed by a +2 longsword because... THEY JUST AN OK????
>>485062123>>485062504Honoured madman is the best imo
>>485062595Yeah he's really afraid of being negative and he has Nintendo sperg fans he has to tread lightly around
>>485061538Rellana's Teabag is a great boss attack though
Sorry for the whack quality, but I wanted to post this.Fuck niggers who only know how to spam this broken shit.
>>4850625962 gravelstone seals +25 and 80/80, I don't know whether they got buffed in a patch or something lately so they are good now but when I tried them they were extremely slow and did no damage.
So what's the actual trick to doing Radahn's second phase without a shield? I've got his first phase down pretty good, but the second he starts doing AoEs after every swing I die within seconds.
>>485062659>Demigods remain alive in their boss room after beatenonly malenie i think but thats because she's becoming a goddes,all the others just die, no?
>>485062812apology not accepted
>>485062812storm blade is overpowered btw
>>485062845parry
>>485061492I was disappointed about not getting a lot of things I thought they would do. Your pic is close to what I thought Miqy was gonna be like
>>485062816It depends on how long ago you did it. Many incantations were buffed well after launch during successive balance patches
>>485062812downsize to 720p or less next time
>>485062681It's strange why people think that death is no longer happening in the Land's Between when Miyazaki said that the Death Rune being removed was for her family's benefit only.People die and get recycled, but that was not meant for the demi-gods.
>>485062681Always has been.In Dark Souls the undead curse was used by lorefags to explain why mobs respawn, regardless of if they're actually undead or not.Bosses and NPC, they don't respawn, regardless of if they're undead or not.Some things are just game mechanics, and are better left that way.
>>485062881>apology not accepted
>>485062919>parryfuck that, at that point I'd rather respec faith to use Divine Fortification (I'm not doing that either)
>>485062596The only good dragon cult spells are Knight's Lightning Spear and Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike. ADLS is best used on poise break but it tends to absolutely melt bosses.
>>485049526I summoned him for Messmer and didn't get invaded in Rauh. Does he have to survive the Messmer fight?
>playing through the base game trying to get a new character to the DLC where all the multiplayer action isFor fuck's sake this shit takes too long, really makes me want to just cheat my way there.
>>485062937Like 2 years or so ago, lmao.
>>485057591is that ash of war cosmetic
>>485061675not them but please teach me your ways, ive gotten close on my rl20+3/+1 but cant seal the deal
Same deal as before gentsIf anyone needs help with Ralva and Rugaela my PSN is MrJekyl_MrHyde
>>485061492I liked everything except the bosses, which was also true for the base game
>>485061372>The body of the formless mother seems to BE a woundIt's not literal. Mohg opens a portal because he communes with the Formless Mother, who can turn her blood into bloodflame, but there's no physical body by itself, at least not in the Lands Between. It's effectively a manifestation of her form as Outer God, which is why she started communing through wounds all over the game world. In fact, the association between Formless Mother and Fell God explains exactly where the Fell God residesWounds the caster with thorns of punishment, sending a trail of bloodthorns running over the ground to impale enemies from below.This sorcery can be cast repeatedly.The guilty, their eyes gouged by thorns, lived in eternal darkness. There, they discovered the blood star.The DLC also hints that the thorn sorceries are originated from the Scadutree sorceries that were created in the Realm of Shadow and count as Aberrant Sorceries Sorcery of those who abandoned the practice of incantations after devout faith rewarded them with only despair. Covers the caster in impenetrable thorns grown from the Scadutree.The image of the misshapen Scadutree is an edict: Spurn all that exists. Wound all that exists. For we have been abandoned.It really couldn't be any more clear. Aberrant and Bloodflame are Sorceries and Incantations tied to the Formless Mother, the Blood Star, and the Formless Mother used to be the God of Flame, which was stolem when she was killed
>>485062681Sellen is the weirdest one IMO. The claim is that the stars govern the fates of the Carian royal family, so some people used to theorize she's a secret Carian. But Ranni gets worried about her mom being beaten even before the stars get unstuck(and obviously, we can kill Radahn before the stars get unstuck too), so clearly the stars stasising fate is more of a metaphorical thing. And Jerren immediately beelines for Sellen right after Radahn dies so it's not like he's not motivated to kill her and was just chilling.So did the stars just specifically intervene to tell the world "hey we're more gently nudging fate in the opposite direction than actually locking it in place when we stop moving, except for this one sorceress from Liurnia, she's our GOAT and nobody can kill her"?
>reduce cast time by a fraction of a second>take 30% extra damagegee thanks
>>485061492I liked everything about it except for the final boss. Aside from that my only real complaint is that I wish some stuff was bigger. Midra's Manse should've been a full-fledged legacy dungeon, for example. Still consider it a 10/10 DLC.
>>485062867>GodrickLoses all of his grafted bits and what's left is on the floor of his arena being stomped on by Gostoc>Morgottleft on the floor of his arena talking shit at you>RykardBig snake head being eaten by his wife>RadahnAlexander gathers him up>MaleniaFlowerOf the demigods in the base game, only Mohg is MIA. This was probably an oversight originally, because in terms of game progression he's intended to be fought after Destined Death is unsealed but you can technically face him beforehand. However, the DLC retconned it so that Miquella's followers made off with his body instead.
>>485061492It's good overall, Messmer is a fantastic boss fight, don't like how empty the southern regions are, Radahn makes me worried for how From is gonna treat difficulty going forward.The weirdest side effect is how mindbroken the schizo have gotten over this DLC, threads on /v/ are the most unhinged shit I've seen in a while.
>>485057591bruce lee
>>485062590melina. how would marika being the gloam eyed queen make sense?
testing on the secluded cell giant I get(no buffs, get its attention first, but swap armor/talismans):>claws of night 2HR1: 1283>claws of night jump R1: 1712 >claws of night WA (melee+range): 2136>claws of night WA (range only): 928>(ar listed is 822 for WA setup)Those were the max values I saw for capping damage. But I want to test with no rakasha set / talismans / etc to see if I can figure the mechanics since the motion value spreadsheet doesn't have them datamined. With the same setup as I had above for doing 2136 / 928 weapon art, I dealt 1232 with an R1, and 1232+928 = 2160, quite close to the 2136 which probably explains the minor difference by the ER damage formula.with no gear/talismans I get R1=1024, WA (both)=1400, WA(range) = 584and if I poke with an R1 with one hand, I get R1= 552which is consistent with talismans (584*1.1*1.04*1.1*1.15*1.02^4 = 914, quite close, also missing the +6 dex scaling of millicent so it adds up right)not sure why that one didn't add upand with this no-other-gear setup I have an AR of 684, and motion value for power stance claw is 94+94, so I'm doing about 80% damage to that giant after armor (684*2*0.94*0.8 = 1028). That's not a flat % given the damage formula, its enough to skew it thoughAt any rate what I'm observing is that it looks like the scattershot throw has around a 100% max weapon damage, spread out across multiple projectiles. Maybe they're 25% or 33% or 50% each, but either way it caps out at 100% combined. But you can also do an R1 at the same time for its 188% damage when power stanced, hence the whole thing doing about 288% of weapon base ARbut that's before counting smithy/alexander talismans. If they only apply to the thrown damage it takes it from 100% of base to 132%, for 320% AR total. And an 822 damage weapon with 320% ar = 2630, hitting a giant for ~2136 when doing ~81% through defense.and for bleed buildup, R1 has 130% power stance, (65+65), so perhaps 230% bleed
>>485063153What do you mean anon, it takes literally 30 minutes, unless you need some very specific weapon from the base game, you just get the 2 lift pieces, curve stomp rennalla and mr hands and get into leyndell.
>>485063474>Godrickgostoc is stomping on his dead remains>Morgotthe only remained "alive" so he can get his anime villain parting dialogue off before breathing his last>Rykardis dead which is why his wife is eating him to try to revore him back into her by taking him into her or something like that>Radahnis dead so alexander can take his meat blobs and eat themall of these guys die without needing DD to be unsealed
>>485063153Just do Varre's quest for the Pureblood Knight Medal and kill Mohg early nigga.
>>485063635Still need to run around getting all the flasks and upgrades and memory stones and bell bearings and talismans and all the other bullshit.
>>485062043Seethe harder. I'll keep ganking you.
>>485063371Hey, maybe all of this ridiculous incomprehensible Outer God bullshit is the reason why Marika, Ranni, and Miquella all teamed up together to cut off the "gods"
>>485063635>literally 30 minutes to collect every flask upgrade + talisman pouch + the good talismans + spell slots + reach the dlcyeah okay buddypalbuckofriendoyou idiot
>>485063728True, starting a new character sucks.
>>485063186Stay near him at all times except for blood pool obviously. If he is walking about menacingly if you have a fast weapon you can get a hit in and then this will prompt him to make an attack. Otherwise just backpedal slightly and it will prompt him to make an attack.You can get fully charged R2s in on a LOT of his recoveries, use them and posture break him.Make sure to stand at his left side while he is doing his count down attack stages since it is free damage and he will swing over your head.If he is going to do his horizontal blood toss and you are right at him back up slightly before he throws it and dodge into it so it lands behind you and doesn't get in the way of your fight.Even if you somehow do touch a little bit of bloodflame it doesn't matter since it barely hurts you and as long as you aren't purposely standing in it you won't get bled.If you're skipping the purifying tear make sure you have at least enough estus to chug during his bleeds in the phase transition.But mostly just be patient, he has a large HP pool if you aren't using status effects so expect to be there for 10 minutes or more depending on weapon and upgrade level.
>>485063809Don't forget making sure not to break quests like Boggart or Seluvis that result in being cut off from items/content
>>485063370>The Formless Mother, the Fell God AND the Thorn/Aberrant outer god are all one in the sameThat's a lot to take in anon, 3 outer gods, one of them, the brair one presumed to have a really small influence are all the same being.The Fell god lives inside the last fire giant though and he doesn't use any blood attacks, his leg he tears off is burnt as an offering, not squeezed for blood
>Host spends a minute buffing>goes inside of gaius boss room>gets 1hko'd by his dashI WISH Miyazaki played co-op in his own game's DLC. It's fucking miserable.
>>485063728If you don't like the game, you don't have to play it.
>>485062043>confirmed it's broken due to the netcode>cry when people use equally broken shit to counter itlmao gotta love it
>>485063370I don't see where any of that connects the Formless Mother to the Fell God or to flame at all.
>>485063809>I'm slow and retarded>You idiotOkey?
>>485063728>>485063809Then you should have worded your post better. As the issue isn't about it talking a long time to get a new character into the DLC where the action is. Your problem is that it takes a long time to flesh out a new character, which is true regardless of the DLC's existence or not.
>Blue and green glintstoneSterile, safe to use unless you do some primeval current shittery. The casting catalyst most clean of the influence of fickle outer divinity>Red glintstoneOoooh this is the really evil blood glintstone, you don't even wanna know how evil and bad it is man it's just like... it's just really horrible...
I find the lore hard to follow because there really isn't any hint of a time table. Like how long as it been since the Shattering War? A few years? decades? hundreds? A thousand as Martin once envisioned? I think only Rogier said something about it, but he described it in flowery words like many moons have passed.
Testing the Ailment TalismanInflicting yourself with bloodloss via Seppuku activates the talisman, granting you 350 Robustness for 50 seconds. Note that it increases Robustness and not just bleed resistance, so your resistance to frost also rises. 350 is a lot, more than doubling the resistance of this character.Secondary note, the added resistance works just like swapping to a resistance ring, the extra starts filled and drains over time. So if you're fighting something and get bled, you'd need to munch a bolus to actually see any benefit before the next bleed/frost trigger.Seems kind of bad for Robustness specifically. 50 seconds isn't a particularly long time, especially if you need to disengage and bolus to benefit from it. Will test other statuses.
>>485063939I always use Law of Regression when my host spends too much time buffing.
I just beat Metyr with no scadutree blessings and I'm happy. I think I missed it on my first run but at the end of the fight she kinda teleports into a black hole i think
>>485064037time is convoluted
>>485064037There was a really big lore thread about this a while ago and most anons agreed that while the long backstory is pretty much impossible to gauge, it's likely that the Shattering has only been a decade or two
>>485063809two types of flask upgradesand all the relevant spellsand the spirit ashesand the missable vendor quests (boiled crab)and all the bell bearings needed for upgrading somber weaponsand all the bell bearings needed for upgrading regular weaponsand all the bell bearings needed for upgrading spirit ashesand all the whetstonesand any weapon/armor pieces you want to useand the great runesand activating the great runesand sites of grace for ammunition vendorsand crafting recipes for ammo or consumables you needand a torch and a telescope and sewing neeedles and wraith callin bell and a perfume bottle
>keep doing first phase over and over>eventually learn moveset and can clear it consistently>phase 2 starts>get AoE'd to death within seconds>can't actually improve cause die too quicklyThis shit is just miserable, man.
>>485062914oof>>485062945I will remember this (hopefully)
>>485064037Your cockFUCKulated !
>>485063939that's half the fun in co-op yea
>>485064093kek based
>>485063912>I have to talk with this NPC on the way while collecting shitOH THE HORROR!
>>485063939I just assume the host is going to eat shit if I see them using a cheese build or a billion buffs.If you're that bad that you can't beat the boss while already stacking as much in your favour as possible and STILL need to summon then you're probably hopeless and the only way they will succeed is when they eventually turn into one of the cucks that just sit in the corner and watch someone else kill the boss for them.
>>485064139Yes she uses the same space fold gravity teleport that Astel does. It's stupid though>turns tail and flees>LEGEND SLAIN>REMEMBRANCE OBTAINEDWe shouldn't get a remembrance.
>>485064185fuck I forgot the crystal tears
>>485064139You are a fucking moron. Your parents would breath a sigh of relief if they knew you killed yourself.
>speedrun trannies outing himself in the thread right at this very momentYou Will Never Be A Worldrecordholder
>>485064037We are amidst strange beings, in a strange land. The flow of time itself is convoluted; with heroes centuries old phasing in and out. The very fabric wavers, and relations shift and obscure
>>485064261Kek, I just used the deflecting tear to block the initial charge.
>was grafted togheter from two separate dlcs >gives half assed answers to abruptly/ barely conclude (only some of) the questions from the main game>marginally expands the lore>Seems to have had a rewrite after the reveal trailer due to missing content>Ends abruptly and without fanfareThank you Mike Wazowski.
>>485064409Why are you rude to me?
why are all invaders metaniggers?
How much of the base game should I do before entering the dlc. I'm like level 120~130 last I checked. Should I kill melenia? I know there is no special dialogue between the twins.
>want to use all 3 moon spells because my guy's a pure Ranni humper>can't make it 80 int and gutting other skills a lotlads, how big is the difference on moon spell damage between 72 and 80 int
>>485064440No. Fromsoft DLC trailer have often had "cut" things in them. They aren't to be taken 100% at face value.
>>485064494because so are all hosts and phantoms
>>485064440100% of the effort went into making the map
>>485064416It's funny, but From could have used this to explain all the inconsistencies. The smashing of the ER probably did a number on the Lands Between's metaphysical existence.
>>485064494mental illness.People that actually focus on the PVP for Elden Ring are mentally ill.
why does every chinese player i invade have a max level phantom with them
>>485064605This>>485064494Soulful invaders lose more often and get teabags for their trouble. Blame cancer bag hosts.
>>485064578They absolutely should be taken as such. Don't justify poor practice.
WHY CANT I GET A SECOND RAPIER AAAAAAAAAA
I am of the opinion that lies of p has better combat
>>485064656Because this is chinese mentality. No racism btw. This is actually chinese mentality. They will do literally anything to win. This includes cheating which EAC is making it hard for them to do this. So the next best thing to cheating is having massively overleveled phantoms with them at all times.
>>485064440The only people who take this game or the lore seriously are vattivydia and their clones, and the babies who played this are their first "souls" game.
>>485064748Nta no one cares about cut content. If other studios were even half as ambitious maybe they'd have to cut content too. But those other studios are too busy thinking of ways to nickle and dime you.
>>485063939I hate the frenzied buff that makes them scream idk why people do it
>>485064748>absolutely should beNope because that would mean you aren't aware of what they've done before. You're as pathetic as the goobers who got mad we never saw Gherman in the Fishing Hamlet even after he was shown there in the trailer like 2 weeks earlier You're just a pathetic sperg who got too much into analyzing the trailers.
I'm trying to make a cold/lightning/wind build. What combo do you recommend?>currently using greatspear with storm assault, offhand scimitar with divine frost stomp, and death k***ht's twin axes
>>485064440Didn't that Lance McDonald guy say something along the line that the DLC was going through some insane levels of development hell, and the Coliseum was a hand out because of it?He could be talking out of his ass, but the From community really trashed him for saying it on twitter.
>>485064614And it's just mostly empty space.
>>485064440The really weird thing is how Miquella/Radahn don't even have any dialogue when they die. There's no real "ending" to the DLC aside from that shitty 5 second memory scene. Nothing in the base game changes to reflect the DLC, not even a minor dialogue/cutscene change for related bosses like Malenia or interested parties like Gideon.It's less than every other DLC they've ever made has had as an ending. DaS1 you get some ending dialogue with Elizabeth for closure, the altered Sif cutscene, new dialogue from Dusk after rescuing her from Manus, etc. DaS2 obviously you get all the new Vendrick dialogue with each DLC crown you earn. DaS3 had minor changes to DLC dialogue if you went the lord of hollows route in the base game. BB gets you new dialogue from the Doll after beating Maria. Elden Ring is a newer and way bigger game than any of those and yet it has less than any of those games in that regard.
>>485064068Here it is for focus. +350 for 30 seconds, shorter than Robustness.Note that under normal circumstances, you're immune to sleep buildup during the sleep stun (prevents looping the status into itself) but if the talisman triggers off of sleep, the added resistance is still added as a filled bar so it doesn't seem like it would help you at all vs the sleep shotgun or nanaya's torch since you'd still need to escape and munch a bolus.Note: I triggered sleep on myself via a lulling branch. It could be that different sources of status affect the duration of the buff but I can't really test that.
>>485064440Remind me, how did Ringed City and Old Hunters ended
>>485057829ALL levels are objectively correct at this point, everything is populated
>And it's just mostly empty space.
it's extremely sad how fucking beautiful and amazing the map is only for it to be mostly empty the cerulean coast is the worst offender
I want to grab two handfuls of Rellana's twin moons.
>>485063921No, the power of the Fell God still lurks within the Fire Giants. It doesn't mean the Fell God is physically within the Fire Giant.The Fell God is not a Fire Giant either, because she assigned the role of keepers of her Flame to the Fire Giants, multiple, one of which was kept alive by Marika>3 outer gods, one of them, the brair one presumed to have a really small influence are all the same being. The only thing we know about the Blood Star is the association with Blood and communing with tortured prisoners. This makes the link with the Formless Mother blatant, but unlike the Omen like Mohg with accursed blood that reacts to his link with the FM, they cast through glintstone that forms through, guess what? Blood sacrifices.The Formless Mother and the Blood Star are clearly the same identity>>485063992As I already said, the DLC makes it clear. Marika killed the Fell God, The Formless Mother started communing with the hirnsent clans and was found in the shadow of their corpses torn apart. You know what that means? It's literally a portal through the same "cursed" blood as the Omen. The wound inflicted to the Formless Mother was inflicted by Marika. You can see it in the trailer where she takes her grace
>>485064494Gotta compete with 2-3 players spamming AoE L2s and spells somehow.
>>485065069I mean it still helps if you get hit by a status, then retreat a bit and the bar starts diminishing before you get hit again by itbut yeah that sounds terrible, its like an item that gives +% max hp when you take damage, its self-defeating unless you heal up anyway
>>485064876>justifying it againEveryone who knows about the cut content cares about the cut content. Suck dick less. Others being bad doesn't mean From is beyond reproach, dumbass >>485064931>you shouldn't expect from trailers show because From has gave us false impressions before>and that's my faultLord help you if you ever get in an abusive relationship
I like Rellana's armor but her helmet looks like dogshit
>>485064785i would almost call that a fact, souls doesn't have very good combat. it's incredibly outdated and stale, but fromsoft is good at other things so ER is still way better than lies
>>485065158Yep, literally nothing but some random undead dragon and bird.
>>485065063true ending looked like thisunfortunately, it was cut at the last moment
>>485065283Try again without the meme arrows
>>485065158cerulean coast has more content of both finger ruins, the mountain and the north east area around manus metyr all combined
>>485065283>some pathetic deflection about abuseAnon, you're an idiot and your outrage is outright pathetic
>>485065158Map emptiness is my number one complaint for the DLC.You can only explore so many areas that lead to absolutely nothing or a lordsworn bolt/mushroom/smithing stone 3 before you start to get really irritated with the bloat.
>>485065387kek
Should i spare a point for smithscript weapons on a pyro build, or get 15STR for two handing fire knight's sword?Are any of the infusible smithscript weapons any good for pvp now?
>>485065158I'm surprised they didn't make more caves and hero graves. We got a bunch of crypts and the new forges, but they didn't bother making any of the other open world dungeon types.
What's a good off-hand weapon to go with a Messmer Soldier Axe? Powerstance Axes is not too great right
>>485065139trc ends with the ashen one creating a new painting toh ends with the hunter discovering the secrets of the healing church and ending the orphan of kos' torment
>doing taunter run with friend>making way to boss>invaded by some guy with serpent hunter>we start approaching>he backs off and changes to the pizza cutter>already know what's coming so we rush him>he backsteps and tries to start up the chainsaw but gets interrupted>friend whips out madness torch>slaughter red faggotWhy are reds so fucking mentally ill? We hadn't even done anything yet, and he immediately swaps off the serpent hunter and onto try and chainsaw us?This isn't even the first time either. We reached Messmer boss door and we get invaded and as the host starts doing that long as fuck door animation the red chainsaws some random gold we had before the host finishes the animation and boots the red out of the world. Still killed the boss as well.
>tfw just need the regular age of fracture ending to get all the chevos>don't wanna leave the tree burning so will have to head into NG+++ in this character afterDo I even bother nabbing everything. I'm still missing a few remembrance weapons, and I think I also missed the special ashes of war for the smithing weapons from the DLC.
>>485065497There were 2 caves.Heroes Graves were the worst dungeon type and I'm glad they didn't bring them back. Forges are an adequate replacement.
>>485065497>no cinematic to start the DLC, or even animation to enter the area like souls usually does with a crow picking you up / etc>no cinematic to finish the DLC, and not even the bare minimum of voice lines from NPCs to discuss how you've wonmate the very, very, very clearly rushed this DLC and weren't even close to finishing everything they had planned. This dlc was released in an ~80% finished format
>>485065387>censoring the word fuckwhat faggot made this
>>485065614>Heroes Graves were the worst dungeon typeShit taste.
>>485065614>Filtered by some platforming
>>485065539Technically, we discovered the secrets of that Byrgenworth collage. The Kos situation happened before the Church was set up.
hopefully the next dlc is good
ER is the most beautiful game of all time and the DLC only reinforced this, the visuals are out of this world
haven't gotten to the dlc yet, replaying the gameare there still faggots who defend waterfowl dance? Because that move singlehandedly ruins the fight with Malenia and if I ever meet Miyazaki irl I'm going to call him a faggot and tell him t o kill himself
>>485065439That's not saying much.
>>485065614Heroes Graves were definitely meant to lead into the underground but they couldn't work it out. This is my head canon of course but they're so stupid otherwise
>>485050385>and liftingUnderneath the helmet is another, slightly smaller helmet.
>>485065549>try invading>get pulled through 5 different gank squads>losing patience so start chainsawing the faggots>invade two snowflakes again, they are clearly camping>fuck it, i will chainsaw them tooI assume that's what he was thinking
>>485065748Honestly, that's all it has going for it, all style and no substance.
>>485065439at least they have a unique enemy type and quest. garbage either way
>>485065759>just block>just run away>just run under her then dodge through the last 2 slashes
>>485065774yes but at least cerulean coast had a few items, sub locations and dungeonsthe mountain is just a linear corridor with 4 bossfights and 3/4 are copy / pasted dragonsthe finger ruins have literally nothing but a button to press for a quest (WITH NO ANIMATION let alone cutscene)the manus metyr area is nothing but the bossfight-only cathedral and yet another copy/pasted rise, that's it, I mean it has a furnace golem but lmao
>>485065697true.
>>485065614Oh yeah, we did get two caves, but they were both in the early area. They could have put one or two more. I forgot to also mention the new Gaol dungeons too. There was quite a lot of stuff in the DLC, but they concentrated most of it in the early areas.
>>485065614I liked the hero graves, but I wish every single one had a spirit ash at the end. It would have made more thematic sense that way.I think only 3 of them add it. One other was the pic related grave which was fucking shit.The other was the mountaintops one.
>>485066017>the finger ruins have literally nothing but a button to press for a quest (WITH NO ANIMATION let alone cutscene)Each finger ruin has one of those unnamed demigod graves. 2 of the only 3 in the DLC.Would have mattered more if most boss weapons/spells weren't shit though.
>>485065683Any faggot who doesn't want their content censored on touchy websites such as Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, etc.
>zoomie when he encounters an atmospheric setpiece location to break up the highly detailed exploration of the central part of the DLC: AIIIEEE I'M GOING INSANE
>the new night weapons have literally ruptured whatever "balance" there was in the pvpbravo
>the way the areas are labeled, Cerulean Coast, Charo's Hidden Grave and Jagged Peak are all part of Gravesite Plains>The Abyss and Hinterlands are part of Scadu Altus>Upper/lower Rauh + Belurat/Enir Ilim are "The Land of the Tower"intredasting
bloodborne remains king, nothing beats the old huntersgod i wish sekiro got a dlc
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>>485065759Literally just block.
>>485066183its not really content though, its kind of like picking up a copy/pasted itemhell they don't even have animations or anything neat / unique like the wandering mausoleums did. I never gave a shit about the mausoleum rewards, they were just fun to watchas anon said above at least finger ruins have a fully fleshed out enemy variety because that's their only saving grace otherwise its the emptiest area ever in the whole soulsborne series and that's including DS2 snowfields
>>485066231That shit is great, but when it's half the world map then it becomes a problem.
>>485066017I was waiting for some big fucking alien to crash land or something, I stopped cared after reaching the finger ruins and finding out there was nothing.
>>485066396>then it becomes a problem.No, there's no problem. There are a few unique gimmick areas and a scenic coast. You get more than enough normal exploration.
>skibidi tree fight>oh i think i see the pattern not much flashy stuff>phase 2 starts>oh haha>phase 3
>>485066248>edgelord weapons are OPgo figure
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>>485065549Sounds about right. Invaders are faggots, this has been known from the beginning of Souls games.
I put it on lightning because I heard it's the best for riposte tools but that might have been for PvP.Should I switch to Keen with 80 dex for PvE?
>The best looking area in the game is also the emptiest oneWhat did Michael Zaki mean by this?
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>>485066479i disagree
>>485066428Marika was always very broad shoulderedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5wwSxl0atcLook at the original trailerEven in the shots it's Marika, the figure looks vaguely androgynousIn other words fuck me this trailer is so good.
I think this is the only souls game i've seen this with>New players love it and think the difficulty is awesome and don't think its too hard and have a good time throughout the entire time>People who have played all the souls games for the last 5-10 years are suddenly crybabies and think its too hard because they don't wanna learn attack chains and openings they just want dark souls 1 do half the boss health bar in one zweihander strike.You would think it would be the other way around right?I still believe there is nothing as unfair as Orstein and Smough in Elden Ring. You walk like a fuckin cripple in dark souls 1 and then u got orstein doing fuckin anime moves on you zoomin across the arena while you cant even move and heal.
>>485066857>New players love it and think the difficulty is awesome and don't think its too hard and have a good time throughout the entire time>>People who have played all the souls games for the last 5-10 years are suddenly crybabies and think its too hard because they don't wanna learn attack chains and openings they just want dark souls 1 do half the boss health bar in one zweihander strike.where did you get this narrative from?
Does the Bolt of Gransax's ash of war scale at all with faith or just dex?
>>485066950observing this board and youtubers.from what i've seen most newcomers who make vids on this game who havent played any of the others LOVE it and then the ones who have played the others throw a fit sometimesim not saying all people are like that its just what i've seen personally.
>a great rune has been shattered>and a great charm undonei've fucked up right?
>>485066950He's mostly right regarding new fans but there is definitely a portion of the normalfag crowd that tried to hop on the bandwagon and got bucked right the fuck off and have been vehemently seething ever since
>>485066223>making content for views and not just for the sake of creating
>>485066857its because new players arent clinging to the "soulsgames are sooper hard bro PREPARE TO DIE guys hahah" circlejerk so they will use whatever the fuck tools the game gives themoldheads are still obsessing over their Beat The Hardest Game In Existence Award so they're trying themselves into knots complaining that you didnt beat the game if you used a buff or consumable or talisman or ash of war or whatever their new ingroup goalpost is
>>485049143There's no Erdtree Favour+3 or equivalent in DLC What the FUCK were they thinking? It's mediocre and a +3 version would have made me feel better about wearing it.
>>485067197That's story progression anon, you're fine
>>485067341I think its mainly people who have been playin ds1, ds3 bloodborne all of those for several years forgot what its like to be bad at these games and will call it unfair because they are so used to being good at the other ones that their egos hurt when they aren't instantly good at elden ring.
>>485049585>parry spammer get's a hefty dickslap across the face by a bigger axeholy based
>>485064440>Ends abruptly and without fanfareFromsoft DLCs were always like this. They never had effect on the base game. Fromsoft DLCs are just side content. Bitching about this is a great way to out yourself as an eldenshitter newfag.
>>485067431>Amber Medallion +3>Morgott's Rune>Radahn's RuneBro there are so many different ways from stopping yourself from being a viglet
>>485067731Only one game had it effect the main content, and that was DS2 with the addition of a new ending and way to stave off the curse
>>485067431Erdtree's favour is for minmaxing equipment load and HP for pvp. It's not meant for pve.
>>485067773>>485067960I'm talking from a PvP perspective. Erdtrees favour is only hardly worth wearing at about meta level+ because it's percentage-based. So useless at low levels and it's competing for limited slots. Why should I wear it instead of Jarsenal or something else that directly compliments the build? There's also no reason a +3 version shouldn't exist when we got +3 versions of defense talismans and TRC has FaP+3.
>>485060565If Mohg made it to phase 2 then your Marais build is complete garbage.
What's the lore behind the midgets with cleavers
>>485059472Same tbqh. Its one of my favorite weapons From has ever made, and its quite nice to see Western style weapons behave like they are supposed to instead of as giant slabs of metal.
>>485069198shadowniggas
>>485064984Int/fth works well if you want to be a caster.If you don't, DEX is pretty good, you get the Cragblade with Thundercloud Form, optimal damage with Storm Blade, and Cold ashes like both frost stomps also scale with dex on the Cold Infusion.
>>485067197Depends.The only potential loss is the choice between a spirit ash and spell, and a weapon and dragon transformation.You can still save it though.Don't talk to Moore (the merchant fellow that talks about finding things) again until you've talked to another guy named Thollier. Then talk to Moore, resolve his new dialogue however you wish and without leaving the area, mention Thollier. He'll give you a thing.That'll save it.Otherwise you've lost nothing really.
>>485049585What the fuck is that health
I finally got the bottom duo, it took Aeona fuckery but I finally got him
>>485077521*Aeonia
