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what's the new meta ?
>Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns.>Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns.>Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns.
Why was Juggernaut smashed into the ground? No one played that shit.
>The way that the Quantity and Rarity of items dropped from extra content has been changed. Generally we have added item Quantity or Rarity bonuses to a number of mechanics, such as Essences, or Delirium. On top of that we have added drops back to some leagues where it wasn't present before, like Ultimatum. In general the philosophy here is that if you are killing monsters you get loot, and if they are more difficult, you should get more and better loot.It seem way too vague removing IIQ was good but then they have to compensate it somehow
Poisonous Concoction of Bouncing: Now has 30 to 44 Added Chaos Damage at gem level 1 (previously 26 to 39), with values of 716 to 1073 at gem level 20 (previously 622 to 933).lmao
REST IN PISS JUGGTOTAL JUGG DEATHCOMPLETE JUGG IRRELEVENCE
>The Eternal Damnation Unique Amulet now has Cannot gain Endurance Charges, and Cannot gain Power Charges.
>>486614412sit in town while legal bots run maps for you
Predict the Champion % this leagueI bet 5% incoming!
>>486614412CoC DD again
berserkbros.... this is genuine garbage....
they fucking buff every skills
>Jugg nerfed>Trickster untouched
>>486614506costs gold which you can only get by killing
>you didn't like manually planting corpses in an annoying graveyard to craft items slowly?>now you can to manually upgrade buildings in an annoying down to do EVERYTHING slowly
>>486614472>REST IN PISS JUGG
>Corpses spawned by the Desecrate and Corpse Walk skills now have a flat 15% chance to match your spectres, rather than a 15% chance on top of being added to the main pool of corpse varieties that can be picked from. >These Spectral Corpses are now unusable for most purposes, and can only be used by Minion Skills such as Raise Spectre or Bone Offering.>Player-spawned Corpses are no longer affected by modifiers on Maps.DD NERFED
>>486614543boneshatter of complex trauma got nerfed with a hard cap
>idle game mechanics>basebuilding>gold>gumball and vendor trash rewardsdogshit league. 0/10. worse than necro.I blame ruthless babies for the ongoing slopification of this IP
DOOMSISSIES = BTFOdMF = DEADTFTRANNIES = SEETHINGMELEE = SAVEDKALGUURANS = REHOMED
>>486614519they nerfed DDaround 20-30% less dps
>beating the gacha at posts/minwe're so back baldbros
>The Adorned Unique Jewel now has 0-100% increased Effect of Jewel Socket Passive Skills containing Corrupted Magic Jewels (previously 50-150%).HAHAHAH
>THE PATCH NOTES
DD JUST GOT FUCKING DELETED FROM THE GAMEMETAFAGS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BTFO
it's over for us...
>>486614742infinite damage - 20% is still infinite damage
>>486614451>It seem way too vagueCorrect. They replaced explicit values that players could quantify easily with hidden values that players can only guess at.They always do this kind of shit.
>raider is now a big dick elemental damage without frenzy zoom zoom>slayer is useless with vaal pact nowflickerbros...... where do we go now??
>dd raped>adorned gaped>slams buffed
we're back gladiator chads
>Endurance Charges on Players and Minions no longer grant 4% to all Elemental Resistances per Endurance Charge. They now instead grant 4% additional Elemental Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge.can you even get elemental damage reduction from other sources to make this less bad?
Well, bleed glad shit is dead. What am I slamming with on JUGG? Just EQ?
>RF untouched>Adornedsissies btfo>DDsissies btfo
>>486614498>Hardest item in the game to get (that isn't purely RNG bullshit)>Now has a gigantic penalty on it because fuck youWhat the hell.
yeah im thinking lacerate of hemorrhage dual weild %65 attack/spell block GLAD
>>486614720>idle game mechanicsyou get to speed it up by upgrading stuff/employing more people>basebuilding>goldyou get gold pretty much passively by just playing the game >gumball and vendor trash rewardsmaybe, but it still takes you a second to look it trough and most of the stuff just gets done by you playing the game
rip ALLOCATES BEEF
>>486614720>cope>seethe>dilatekino league. 10/10. better doomnigger meltdown than expedition. i credit neon for the continued quality of this blessed IP
>>486615030slam of snaking
fuck meleethey buffed Pconc of bounceLMAO
I don't understand these retaliation skills are they supposed to be your main skill or supplemental?
>>486614542>no more sizeits over
>>486615043>you get to speed it up by upgrading stuff/employing more peoplethats literally what an idle game is.unironically the worst mechanic I've ever seen, this is what you faggots get for bitching about killing le monsters in le circle
>crimson temple removed>crimson temple removed>crimson temple removedWTF
>Desecrate: The maximum level of Corpses spawned is now level 20 at gem level 1 (unchanged), scaling up to 80 at gem level 20 (previously level 100).GAPED
>Added a new Bleeding Passive Mastery that provides 25% chance to Aggravate Bleeding on targets you Hit with Exerted Attacksliterally no reason to play glad lmao
>>486614876If we can get frenzies from tinctures somehow maybe warden and then late getting the new frenzy node with the jewels
>>486615217not in this way noin an idle game you just get resources from building to buy more buildings to make more resources...here you just run maps, and if you run a lot of maps then the "idle" part is going to go way quicker than it would be if you didn't
im playing animate weapon
i will just play elemental hit deadeye
Im sorry...chris...I underestimated you...I finally see the plan...
>>486615081go play clash of clans or something you infant
>>486615182supplemental because they are conditional they are likely a poe2 concept that they're trying out to encourage more buttons.
>Spectral Shield Throw: Now has 56 to 84 Base Off Hand Physical Damage at gem level 1 (previously 47 to 70), scaling up to 243 to 364 at gem level 20 (previously 203 to 304). It also now has 3 to 5 Added Physical Damage per 15 Armour or Evasion Rating on Shield at gem level 1 (previously 3 to 4), with values of 5 to 9 at gem level 20 (previously 5 to 7).We are so fucking back
>Cuckson Temple deleted>Haunted Mansion back>Mesa backKINO
yes I am in fact goingBLEEDBOWGLAD
>>486615318even if GGG adds one still no going zoom zoom with onslaught or +1 frenzy charge
>>486615449and you go play D4 40 dollar retard "expansion" LOL
>The Tawhoa, Forest's Strength Ascendancy Passive Skill has been removedwhat the fuck why
>>486615217An idle game is about feeding one idle mechanic into another and that's the whole gameplay. This is more like Eve Online where you actively play to acquire resources that you put in the cooker for X amount of real time hours.
What do I do with this now? Am I standard rich now?
>>486615486>falling for one of the worst memes ever made
https://www.pathofexile.com/settlersThey fucking nerfed Gladiator. Why the hell would they get rid of the 20% haste node? Why did they lose the 20% more phys DOT? Why is there an entire node for Aggravate when you can get it easily elsewhere?Holy fuck.Warden looks very strong at least.
>Monsters in Ultimatum Encounters drop loot once again.>Monsters in Ultimatum Encounters drop loot once again.>Monsters in Ultimatum Encounters drop loot once again.
>>486615449oh sister i know you are in pain. it's very funny and i am looking forward to more of your seething posts.
>>486614760>Top of /vg/We're so back bros
>>486615531Yes, I've sold a bunch of trash adorneds for like 200div since patch notes came out
>Its a melee expansionHell its about time
>>486615519>D4 bad>therefore we need to dumb the game down to its levelvaal yourself irl
>>486615640we're so FUCKING back
>no zombie buffs>no spectre buffs>no golem buffs>necromancer nerfedDo they want me to not play?
yea, fuck off
>>486615239It freaking sucked balls
sst glad will be metascreencap this shit i'm 100% correct
>>486615692yeah this patch looks super dumbed down. basically helltides.
>Blight Chests in your Maps have 10% chance to contain an Oil Extractor" or "Oils found in your Maps have 25% chance to be 1 tier higher". Instead, it now provides "Blight Bosses in your maps have 10% chance to add an additional Reward Chest when Defeated" and "1 Lane of Blight Encounters in your Maps is guarded only by Blight Bosses"this sounds like it would be really hard
>nerfed berserker>killed jugg>killed champ>buffed deadeye>buffed LA>returning proj enchant on bows without any penaltySo is it another bow league...?
>>486615712NECROKEKS UTTERLY BTFO
I'm thinking PConc Trickster
>>486615679kek, I'll get a 0% one next league and put them next to each other
why the fuck does all spells have scaling spell coefficient now? it starts low as fuck. nerf to leveling. again.
>>486615853>returning proj enchant on bows without any penaltywhat did i miss ?
LANCE IS SAYING CHIEFTAIN IS GOOD NOWIT'S OVER
>ctrl-f winter orb>0 results
>>486615793Glad is giga ass now. (again, because it was before in a different way)
>>486614760poesisters... today we won!
>>486615642wait, I forgot I ragged on ruthless no wonder I'm getting so many melties in response to me speaking truth lmao
>>486615518Fair. Maybe The Red Trail slayer for bleed immunity but I don't remember how instant leech and overleech interacted
Is Chieftain with Molten Strike not shit again?
>>486615902one of the strongest builds in the game and it got even stronger
>Corpses spawned by the Desecrate and Corpse Walk skills now have a flat 15% chance to match your spectres, rather than a 15% chance on top of being added to the main pool of corpse varieties that can be picked from. These Spectral Corpses are now unusable for most purposes, and can only be used by Minion Skills such as Raise Spectre or Bone Offering.DD is dead now right?
>>486616076Yeah they took it out back. Press S to spit.
>>486614760no hair = superior aerodynamics
>Melee Totem Skills Removal>actually like the play style and played it from time to times>now completely gone without any replacementcmon
>>486615952Vengeant Cascade is back but even better now because you don't need to waste an anoint on it
>Double Strike: 409% damage effectiveness>it hits twiceThis shit is going to oneshot Ubers. Meleechads fucking won.
>>486615987How? It got buffed in every regard, be it the class itself, skill tree, gear, etc.
>>486616017no one gives a fuck about ruthless lmao, you are getting shit on because you are a doomtroon shitter so your natural state is wallowing in shit. post your 40/40 from necro lel
Minion cucks what do we play now?
>A major change we have made alongside the above is that we have changed a lot of the quantity and rarity bonuses on monsters to prevent things multiplying out of control at the very top end. There were cases that were utilised by fewer than 100 players total in a league and they were able to yield tens of thousands, in some cases hundreds of thousands of unique items dropping in every map (while not even playing in a party) and as such had monopoly on the unique item market (if you were wondering why many t0 uniques reduced so drastically in value during Necropolis League, it was due to this), this wasn't them exploiting a game mechanic, this was just the maximum capacity of rewards
>Flicker Strike: Now has a Mana cost of 5 at gem level 1, scaling up to 8 at gem level 20 (previously 10 at all gem levels). Now has 177% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 142%), scaling up to 408% at gem level 20 (previously 210%).oh baby
>>486616221You are in luck because melee still needs to use mandatory totems but they are now called banners.Also still need to warcry and all the shit.
>>486615853>killed jugg>when endurance charges just got a huge buffsure
>>486615601>Warden looks very strong at least.Psh, like there's anything good you can do with an ascendancy that applies -60% to all elemental resistances. I'm sure no one will find any strong interactions with this node. Don't even bother playing it.
>Purifying Flame: Now has 220% Effectiveness of Added Damage at gem level 1, scaling up to 300% at gem level 20 (previously 300% at all gem levels).nice patch notes. it's literally just this over and over again.
>>486616221earthbreaker support is on exarch boots but I'm not sure how that will work
>>486615692SEETHING D4 NIGGERI WINYOU LOSEKILL YOURSELF BALDO SERVANTHAHAHAHA
>>486616076mostly because of the desecrate corpse level nerf and not inheriting map mods. maybe Of Scavenging will still be okay.
>The Harbinger Scarab of Discernment has been renamed to Harbinger Scarab of Obelisks. It no longer causes Harbingers in an area to drop rarer currency shards, or to drop a single type of currency shard. Instead, it now causes Harbingers in Area to spawn Empowered Obelisks, and Empowered Obelisks drop Currency Shards when Defeated.RIP my favorite farming strat...
Meanwhile Last Epoch's servers just imploded despite the league being dead already
>>486616306>literallyme dot jay pegsurprised so few were doing that shit.
>The Taste of Hate Unique Flask no longer has 10-15% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Effect. Instead, it now has 20-30% of Fire and Lightning Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Effect.THEY KILLED PF WHEN IT WAS ALREADY DEAD. AIIIIEEEEEDDDD
Strength stacking volcanic fissure of snaking chieftan Shit was sleeper OP, now you can run a shield other than redblade banner AND added damage is fucking doubled.You heard it here first
Consolebros, what's our build for the next season?
>"Blight Bosses in your maps have 10% chance to add an additional Reward Chest when Defeated" and "1 Lane of Blight Encounters in your Maps is guarded only by Blight Bosses"core blight bros?
>get excited that totems get reworked>search for hierophant changes>don't find it>read again>only melee totems removedFucking why? REMOVE THSE UGLY ASS DILDOS
>>486616268see>>486615601
>>486615853For league start yeah. LA is the only league starter for any self respecting softcore trade league player.
>>486615036That reminds me, how does Bleed calculation factor in base damage multiplier?I.E. if a Skill has 100 base damage, would the Bleed with a level 20 Lacerate of Haemorrhage use 346 damage for calculating Bleed?
>>486616272I know you're super psyched because the only shot you have at hitting 40/40 is when the league is weenie hut jr mode where the mechanic is having bots run maps for you, but for someone with a functioning brain that isn't particularly hard
>Exerted Attacks now have 50% more Area of Effect
what did mark say when ziggy asked him about banners being the new totems?
>QRD ON PATCH NOTESMELEE
reminder that tinctures are a meme
>>486616306>uniques unusable for normal players is bad actuallyt. bald
>>486616609they are more about utility rather than sheer power
New Gladiator looks like SHIT
>Inspiration: Now causes Supported Skills to have less Mana Cost, instead of reduced. This also applies to the benefit provided by Quality.
>>486616609that aren't mandatory, they have to charge up (so they're less braindead) and that they auto-reattach to your back when you go outside of the AoE.
new gladiator gets 150% more damage and 98% block for free. what more do you want.
it's so fucking over summoner sissterswe got fucked this patch
>>486616263>hits twice>oneshotfucking faggot
>>486616568based god gaymer. so lets see your 40/40 daddy.doomtroons like to talk a big game but we all know you are a mazed cuck who was filtered a long time ago
>>486616370D4 is bad, you are seething and pissing and crying because we both know this is a steam backlog league
when is sirgog checking the patch notes
>>486616454im gonna try this out
GIVE ME A VIABLE MELEE SKILL TO PLAY PREFERABLY WITH LARGE AOE AND NO NEED FOR AIMING
So with them pushing retaliate i wonder if it will be a viable build or will it just be a side bonus.
>>486615182gotta do something other than sweep
>>486616609you drop them and their drop buffs is buffed you dont carry them permanently with a reservation
>>486614684Just have to use unearth now
>Flicker meta in Torchlight>Flicker meta in PoEDAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A GANGSTER
>>486616454OK if molten strike is shit this is close enough.
Remember when GGG were like "We don't want to remove bad skill gems that are useless because there might be someone that really liked those skills and liked using them anyway" as they were defending not getting rid of half the useless skills?Because I remember.
>The Ravenous Passion Unique Helmet no longer has "Rage Grants Cast Speed instead of Attack Speed", this change affects existing items. It now has "Gain 7-10 Rage after Spending a total of 200 Mana" (previously 10-15). A Divine Orb can be used to make existing items worse.RIP Spellzerker
>>486614449endurance charges got buffed though. now you just stack endurance charges instead of stacking armour.
>>486616827retard
>>486616870lmao so true sis.
>Doryani's Touch: 1000% added damage>Gets to keep it's added lightning damageFIST LEAGUE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
Bros, looking at these patch notes I don't know how much melee got actually buffed... they removed all of the flat damage off of them making you rely on your weapons even more. This is in addition to basically every warcry getting fucked, banners being worse, and a bunch of ascendancies getting nerfed. What the fuck?
>>486616862ironic troonery is still troonery
>>486616902Ice Crash: Now has 332% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 230%), scaling up to 611% at gem level 20 (previously 350%).Downside is you go blind
The Divine Blessing Support has been removed>The Divine Blessing Support has been removedThe Divine Blessing Support has been removed>The Divine Blessing Support has been removedThe Divine Blessing Support has been removed>The Divine Blessing Support has been removedThe Divine Blessing Support has been removed>The Divine Blessing Support has been removedThe Divine Blessing Support has been removed>The Divine Blessing Support has been removed
>>486616317Who was even using totems with flicker? Pretty surprised they did this but I'm not complaining
>>486616960>>486616317Multistrike Support and Awakened Multistrike Support now describe that they cannot support Travel Skills, rather than every Travel Skill stating they cannot be supported by Multistrike. They also now describe that they cannot support Retailation Skills.>Multistrike Support and Awakened Multistrike Support now describe that they cannot support Travel Skills, rather than every Travel Skill stating they cannot be supported by Multistrike. They also now describe that they cannot support Retailation Skills.Multistrike Support and Awakened Multistrike Support now describe that they cannot support Travel Skills, rather than every Travel Skill stating they cannot be supported by Multistrike. They also now describe that they cannot support Retailation Skills.>Multistrike Support and Awakened Multistrike Support now describe that they cannot support Travel Skills, rather than every Travel Skill stating they cannot be supported by Multistrike. They also now describe that they cannot support Retailation Skills.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>486616715>280 million DPS on an aggravated (triple damage) bleed after 100 seconds (100% more damage)What's not to love?
>>486617051SILENTThis is a #HYPE subreddit only.
Bleed Glad, Lacerate for clear and Eviscerate for bossing.>674.5% damage at level 1 (472.15% with the 30% Less ailment damage mod) versus Lacerate of Haemorrhage (262.5% with its % More Bleed mod).
>>486616454every slam was decent with strength stacking but you did lose battlemages cry
>Flicker Strike 408% damage effectiveness
>>486617064i'm sorry, i didn't think you were being ironic.
>>486617045It's actually *A LOT* worse now. Why? Because you don't get any of the insane weapon enchants that doubles your damage. Also all melee skill gets at least +50% dmg so that buff isn't anything special.
>>486617080pob warriors in shambles
>>486617093its not a travel skill>>486617083i popped them on bosses cause its free damage but yea regular gameplay was completely totem free
im not hyped
>when a update is so fucking kino you want to drop 90 just to watch some rhoas run
>>486617051did you miss the part where quality now gives you like 400 extra free deeps on weapons
>>486616827>FREE damage>FREE explosions>FREE block cap>Easy maximum res cap>Easy 100% spell suppression>Easy newly buffed Endurance ChargesYup, it's gaming time
>>486616065how did it get stronger?
>intimidating cry now grants movespeedthe fuck?
>>486617093Anon, you're retarded.Flicker is a MOVEMENT skill. Not a TRAVEL skill.>What the fuck is a Travel skill then?
>>486617093Fortunately Flicker is movement>Attack, Melee, Strike, Movement, Durationhttps://www.poewiki.net/wiki/TravelIT'S SO FUCKING ON
I think I will play... RF.
>>486617280>melee damage coming from your melee weapon is bad!we doomin bro get on board
>>486616870hahah I can see the tears as you slam your fat hands into your filthy pube encrusted keyboardDIE MAD NIGGER LOL
>>486617093Travel =/= Movement dumb dumb.
what builds are we playing? for me its manastorm dual strike hierophant10k mana = 2500 added lightning damage x 818% damage effectiveness = everything dies
>>486617346And you can turn it into a Reservation that auto-triggers.
>>486617386No warcryNo burning mod on weaponDoD nerfedAdorned nerfed
>>486617045I don't know what you can realistically do with this shit even with 1000% damage ratio. You're missing out on support gems and a lot of damage scaling options. Might be fun to meme around with, but I doubt it's actually good.
>>486617134>after 100 seconds
Haven't read the patchnotes yet, is there anything they didn't show us that is going to fuck up this league?
>Double Strike: No longer has Physical Damage added against Bleeding Enemies at all gem levels. It now has 143% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 91%), scaling up to 409% at gem level 20 (previously 140%). Now has a Mana cost of 7 at gem level 1, scaling up to 13 at gem level 20 (previously 5 at all gem levels).>Pestilent Strike: No longer has Added Chaos Damage at all gem levels. It now has 257% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 125%), scaling up to 472% at gem level 20 (previously 160%). Now has a Mana cost of 7 at gem level 1, scaling up to 10 at gem level 20 (previously 6 at all gem levels).Imagine having gems so underpowered you end up more than tripling their damage when you actually take a look at them
>>486617520brother I havent even finished reading the fuckin patch notes yet to know, calm yourselves
Whats better with returning projectile support+1 projectile but 237% increasedor+377% increased+ 10% more damage per chainDo projectiles return if they chain or not?
>Chain Hook: Now has a Mana cost of 5 at gem level 1 (previously 8), scaling up to 8 at gem level 20 (unchanged). No longer grants "Gain 1 Rage if this Skill Hits any Enemies". Instead it now has "Gain 2 Rage on Attack Hit". Now has 171% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 115%), scaling up to 393% at gem level 20 (previously 169%).is a chain hook build viable now?
What ascendancies aside from Zerk can make good slam builds? I wanna fucking play sunder
>Sweep: No longer has Added Attack Physical Damage at all gem levels. It now has 289% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 170%), scaling up to 664% at gem level 20 (previously 281%). bros we hit so hard
HEAVY STRIKEBERSEKERLOGIN
>>486617747had no idea pestilent strike existed
remember when ggg told us they couldn't just give numerical buffs to fix dogshit skills
The Dancing Dervish Unique Sword no longer has "Manifested Dancing Dervishes disabled both weapon slots". It now has "Cannot be used while Manifested", meaning you can now weapon swap after Manifesting Dervishes and still use items in your second weapon set.literally free rampage/impale
So LA deadeye is still gonna be the best once again, isn't it?
>>486617424Yes, if the average person saw these posts they would definitely think I'm the one who's mad here lmaoholy moley neon's glazers are unhinged
>>486615456With defenses buffed on gear SST could be pretty juicy.
Fine, I'll go hexblast again
There's only 7 days left and I don't know what to play
RHOA RACES AT MY HIDEOUT, I WILL BE TAXING ALL RACE BETS AT MY HIDEOUT I WILL HAVE A FUCKING MONOPOLY BITCHES I WILL MIDDLEMAN AND HOLD ALL MONEY FROM BETS TILL THE END OF THE RACE FUCKING BOAT LEAGUE WE BUILDING A CITY BITCH
>>486617813ups forgot pic
>>486614285sounds like a fun league, can't wait to see how they will screw it up
>>486617747>more than triplingAnon, you seem to be really bad at math.140*3=420.And also Double Strike lost 113-169 flat Phys.Same with Pestilent Strike.
>>486617849last time i league started melee was prophecy league.
>There were cases that were utilised by fewer than 100 players total in a league and they were able to yield tens of thousands, in some cases hundreds of thousands of unique items dropping in every map (while not even playing in a party)Abusers on suicide watch
>>486618029The whole moblie game thing is gonna fuck it up
>>486618029Nah I think they caught a clue with shitty leagues like Auto Battle and Necropolis that people actually wanna have fun once in a while.I think they just lucked out with wildwood
>ritual>ultimatum>delirium>ground slam>unascended marauderwe're so back
>>486617957Keep it low, brother. I don't want streamerfags hyping it up and gobbling cheap gear
>>486617959have fun getting your helm
>>486617736That's how long it takes to kill bosses with melee.
LITERALMOBILEGAMEMECHANICSTHE LEAGUE
>lightning arrow nerfsi knew this day would come
I genuinely dont know what melee skill to start, literally everything looks viable
>>486617998>>486617813Someone please halp
Nearly tripled the damage effectiveness of double strike. what the fuck are they smoking?
>>486618151>I think they just lucked out with wildwoodWildwood sucked ass if you didn't play meta.
>>486616845how?
>divine blessing deletedholy basedi hated using this shit
Elemental hit of the autism
League mechanic looks like great fun.
>>486615520It was absolute fucking trash and i'm unironically glad its gone after playing slam chief for the last 3 leagues. I can use Impaler keystone now and it wnt fuck it.
I just saw the whole thingis poe back bros?
>>486617520>he still plays PoElmaoI haven't played since TotA
Quin is already complaining that they buffed too much.
I LOOOOOOOOVE even more power pulled from other surces to be put into my gear.Will pair excellent with all the great changes they did to loot. drops, gamblecrafting and not needing a filter his league.
>Omen Wands now have 10% base crit chance and 1.4 APSBROOOOS
>>486618257>Literally posting as fast as the post timer will allow him begging people to think for himAt least wait 10 minutes you insufferable braindead lout. At this point, I'd say wait half a fucking hour before posting again.
league looks annoying but might be fun and the patch looks juicy, can anyone give me a qrd on it?
>The Elemental Arrows fired from Prismatic Blink or Mirror Arrow clones now only deal damage of the chosen element (similar to Elemental Hit).So is voltaxic bama dead now?
>no meaningful skill buffs again>no new tranny gems Grim. I don't want to play melee bros...
The Settlers league mechanic needs to go core immediately, i want this town building and trading in every fucking league after this one.
The Dancing Dervish Unique Sword no longer has "Manifested Dancing Dervishes disabled both weapon slots". It now has "Cannot be used while Manifested", meaning you can now weapon swap after Manifesting Dervishes and still use items in your second weapon set.does that mean free rampage? can you have 4 dervishes now?
>Perfect Fossil has been renamed to Opulent Fossil, and it no longer grants Improved Quality. Instead, it now grants "More Drop modifiers and No Tagless modifiers".The fuck does 'drop modifiers' mean?No tagless is pretty strong though.
>>486618438literally equip any melee gem and you win
>>486617926Can somebody explain the bow build meme to me? The only time it ever feels good to me is if I roll it as a second character and I already have hundereds of divs to spend on it. I've tried league starting it and it does 0 dps with 0 defense. I just don't see how you generate the currency for it to feel good without starting as something else
>Power Siphon of the Archmage: Now has a Mana cost of 5 at gem level 1 (previously 7), scaling up to 9 at gem level 20 (previously 11). Now has an Attack Speed of 115% of Base (previously 100%). Increases and Reductions to Spell Damage now also apply to Attack Damage from this Skill at 150% of their value.does this stack with crown of eyes or replaces it?
>>486618151that shit was boring as fuck, pre-buffing at the start of every map is not good design. the only reason people liked it was because they could nigger around in tier 7 maps and get showered with currency.
>>486615440they made regular elemental hit a melee only skill, the alt is the designated ranged version. not sure why
They gutted Jugg, Champ and PF(indirectly) defensively.HC is gonna be rough.
>>486618496theres no way a league mechanic with this much effort and voice acting gets perma-deleted
why shouldn't I go power siphon
varunastra dual strike glad..........
>>486618331what did they do that makes the impaler keystone good with slams?
>>486618567How PF? Auras?
>Jugg, Champ and PF nerfedAnd nothing of value was lost.
>>486618263It had a gigantic added phys damage on it. Double Strike of Momentum will be way better because it didn't lose flat damage.
>>486618516>No tagless is pretty strong thoughAnd locks you out of some of the best mods.
>>486618567>juggdunno about you but i gained 4 passive points and my ehp went up from the change
>>486618602>1.3 apsnah
TOO MANY GOOD OPTIONS WHAT THE FUCK IS THISIM GONNA HAVE TO MAKE 20 BUILDS THIS LEEG
>>486615850Holy shit if blight still works like it did before where you can limit it to 1-2 lanes that means 6-8 blight bosses EVERY SINGLE MAP. Insane value.
>Scarabs, Chisels and Horizon Orbs now follow the same drop rules as Maps, as they are consumed proportionally to Endgame Maps. They do not drop more with additional party members present, nor do they scale with bonuses to Item Quantity on the player (not that you can get it anymore outside of Standard Leagues). The intention is to keep the number of these items dropping always proportional to the number of Map items dropping.sneakiest nerf of the entire league, get ready for 1 scarab drop every 4 maps
>>486618726you use dual strike of ambidexterity and put a 2.1 aps claw on the right slot
>The Rare Monster modifier that previously caused the Monster to Overwhelm 30% Physical Damage Reduction now causes the Monster to apply the Crushed debuff on hit.Combined with this, the other Overwhelm changes and the passive tree changes it looks like GGG's finally getting rid of this bullshit mechanic
>>486618618Impaler issues before:>Slams either hit multiple times (Earthquake, Earthshatter) but that was irrelevant because you're using totems, which eat your Impaler mega impale when they attack, which they always will before you, because you are slow and they are fast, or you're playing Chief who has a little islandfaggot mirage who does the same thingNow you can have nothing hitting but your fuckingSELF for once and might actually be able to get a massive impale without some tertiary mechanic fucking you over. The mirage dealt 0 damage regardless.
>>486618798Fuck partyfags
>>486618567Jugg is not GUTTED but it is shittierChamp however is gutted shit
Looks like a glad league boys
>>486617936BALDOMALDOLOL
>>486618105wtf is this real??
>>486618241>Perforate of Bloodshed: No longer has Added Attack Physical Damage at all gem levels. It now has 87% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 60%), scaling up to 245% at gem level 20 (previously 85%). >Sunder of Earthbreaking: Now has 219% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 170%), scaling up to 503% at gem level 20 (previously 250%).Will try to make this work on Glad before going Shield Crush Bleed + Retaliation.
it's over
>>486618619Phys taken as is really hard to get now>>486618697It is better with Divine Flesh/Fourth Vow but people in HC just clicked the elemental armor node and were unkillable until yellow maps
>>486618861enjoy your 6th map slot with no scarabs
>>486618602>25% More Acc>20% More AoE>20% More Crit chance>20% Instaleech (all Leech, not Life)>30% More damage at enemies below half HP>For just 2 passivesIt's pretty wild. Even if you can't get it early, you can just Claw + Dagger/Sword until you get it.
>>486618817why would you put a shitty meme weapon in your main hand thenthose bonuses aren't good enough to justify losing 70% of your damage
>>486618991FUCKPARTYFAGS
>>486617520This but rage vortex of berserking
>>486618535Just follow a guide. It's piss easy to to progress on bow builds nowadays. The only struggle you will have is getting your voidstones. But you can either farm a bit to get them or just pay someone to do it for you.
>>486619010ITS FUN
>>486618923Anyway, Perforate is unusably bad at low investment. Skip it. And skip Frogtards too.
>>486618798>less pointless 0.2c scarabs to pick upThank fuck.
>>486619042i dont play in a party, which is why its sad that scarab drops are being gutted
That one nigger in 1488 who always used this must be over the moon
Patch notes missing new Transfigured gems?
they really should've just doubled flicker's damage effectiveness so it could've been 420 at level 20.
>>486618992there's only 2 unique vaal blades, chancing should be easy enough
Meleechads wonCorpsisters lost
>The Unbreakable Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer provides "8% of Armour applies to Fire, Cold and Lightning Damage taken from Hits". It now has 15% of Armour also applies to Chaos Damage taken from Hits.rip juggbros
Its weird how Empy and his group of autists manage to find ways to ruin entire game mechanics
>>486619250They just forgot to make tranny gems AGAIN LITERALLY WHY DID THEY REMOVE DIVERGENT SHIT IF THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP FORGETTING
>>486619176yeah im sure it will be very fun when you're killing yellow map bosses for 3 minutes
They killed left click and fed it back to us as 15% reservation. We got anchored bros...
>>486619241I am. Though GS of Earthbreaking looks like it has the numbers to compete.
>phys taken as gone>det/grace nerfed>xibaqua jugg buffedHAHAHA JUGG WINS AGAINALL OTHER CLASSES GONNA DIE TO EVERYTHING NOW THAT THEY CANT IGNORE DAMAGE
>>486619332Could you like not use the t-word please? Thanks
>>486619430Um sweety heiro was buffed with the endurance charge changes
BEEFTAIN>100% warcry buff effect>+6 max all ele res, +60 ele res>+5% flat crit>20% life regen per second>50% more armor100% uptime btw.
Did I miss it or did DD not get nerfed?
>>486619332They specified new Puncture of Shanking, but no transfigured skill section. Fucking hell I was expecting full transfigured replacement after at most 3 leagues.
>>486619506No he wasn't
>>486619430jugg wasn't buffed, it was better to split 50/50 between chaos and ele with the mastery
>>486619604Desecrate sar
>>486619604retard
>>486619604Ctrl F Desecrate
>>486619604DD may as well get deleted from the game.
uhyou don't have to actually click on gold to pick it up right?that would be bad haha
>>486619604Desecrate corpses now can't be exploded with DD. DD is basically unusable now.
>Battlemage's Cry: No longer grants a buff which boosts critical strike chance and allows attacks to benefit from increases to spell damageThey just fucking killed battlemage cry
>"buff" melee>double the mana cost of melee skills Lmao
>>486619430>Most Phys taken as X removed>Added an Eldritch Implicit mod for Chestpieces and nothing elseWhat the fuck.
Did they actually say something about headhunter in the interview or was that misinformation? There's nothing in the patchnotes.
>>486619796Nigger
>>486619581>lasts 2 seconds
>>486619768*Desecrated Spectres>>486619895Oh wow.. you have to spend EVEN MORE of your already over-strained Skill points on shit that is neither damage nor defense...What an AMAZING BUFF.
>>486619895did they keep the mastery too?
>>486619768You misunderstood, you can't blow up the spectre corpses which were you biggest source of damage (you can't even spawn them without a spectre gem slotted). You can still blow up the native map corpses.Also, they cap at zone level 80 so bosses are undoable.
why no runewords yet
>tattoos still not added to base game drops???wtf
>>486619996Both highlighted
>Berserk: No longer provides more Damage with Attacks, more Attack Speed, more Movement Speed, or less Damage Taken. It now provides 40% increased Rage Effect at gem level 1, scaling up to 59% at gem level 20. It also no longer increases the size of your character.So what's the point of this skill now?
DOUBLE STRIKE OF MOMENTUM WARDEN DUAL WIELDING ELEMENTAL THRUSTING SWORDS WITH SHOCK + AVATAR + DOUBLE SCORCH AND A TINCTURE
Is chris terminally ill or something? why was he missing on the presentation? kinda worrided for real
>>486619430>monster steals your charges and your entire build collapsesJugg trash
>All these mftrannies seething
Are the Unearth corpses shit for DD? I know you can technically still do it but there's no way it replaces Desecrate right?
So let me get this straight:DD dead Melee buffedTotems removedInteresting league mechanicBrought tons of requested leagues backNerfed the tank trifecta in HCNew Endgame stuffMapping feels better than everWhy are we trying to doom on this league again? For the first time in years I am actually kinda hype. I don't think even Chris can ruin this league this time around.
ah shit, am i really going to play impale cyclone.
>divination scarabs dead>cartography scarabs dead>reliquary scarabs dead>the one good harbinger scarab dead>mysterious barrels scarab deadalch and go league is back baby
>>486619768Just use unearth
>>486619993or I can just use a 2nd -cost ring and still have free mana costs lmao
>>486619652sure but now you get 90% res and tons of reduced ele instead of no ele reduction and 85% ele res
>>486620231unearth got nerfed too.
bamabros...what's the verdict? are we nerfed?
>>486620186Rage gives 30% more attack damage. You don't want another 20%?
>The Bear's Girdle Unique Belt no longer has 4-6% increased Physical Damage per 10 Rage, this change affects existing itemsHow fucking petty LMAO. Nerfed legacy Bear's Girdle to make it lose a paltry amount of phys damage.
>>486619630>Less ele damage taken instead of all res per charge per chargeYou awake braza?
>>486619996Life Mastery reduced to 15% (from 30%).Cannibalistic Rite is also on the highway and is a Mana node in bottom left so you get easy access to the Reservation Efficiency Mastery there at least.
>>486620284and die to any physical enemy with overwhelm
>>486620243>Why are we trying to doom on this league again?We're actually really happy about this league sisterThere's no one dooming!
We are about to witness the greatest league ever introduced into the ARPG genre and we are alive to play it
>>486620186The point was to remove it from use for everyone but berserker. Added an entire helm for mana spell builds only to rip it away one league later. This game is fucking gay
Why did they kill Apex Cleavers? I guess 60% quality was too much but like 35% or something would have been fine.
>>486620243Because it's Vaal Storm Call cheeser league and nobody realizes it yet because build makers are retarded.
>>486620448Magicfind, Jugg+Champ and DD ('Hopegods', formally) are seething nonstop.
>>486620186I'm assuming berserk will still cause rage to deplete rapidly correct?
>>486620243melee skills now cost 8 fucking mana per god dang attack! ruined the fricking game. we are all going to boycott it, thankfully i hear last epoch are doing some interesting things so we should all check that out!
kidding me
>The Harbinger Scarab of Discernment has been renamed to Harbinger Scarab of Obelisks. It no longer causes Harbingers in an area to drop rarer currency shards, or to drop a single type of currency shard. Instead, it now causes Harbingers in Area to spawn Empowered Obelisks, and Empowered Obelisks drop Currency Shards when Defeated.What is an "Empowered Obelisk"?
>>486620565even at 35% it would've been the best base for everyone
>>486620383lol made you read patchnotes for me
>>486620651sione should have had better ambitions
>>486620669its the blue stick they spawn that has a little bubble shield sometimes, but bigger probably
>>486620669Who knows, no more mirror shard/fracturing showers so harbies are back to being shit
describe your build with an imagehttps://www.bing.com/images/create?
>>486620592Of course, lmao. Why would you get an unconditional "Rage is stronger" buff?
>>486620740>>486620796Oh so Harbinger has been nerfed... fuck there it goes my atlas strategy..Also this:>Harbinger now costs 4 Chaos Orbs (previously 6) and causes the area to contain 2 additional Harbingers (previously 3).Fuck me
>>486620424just like everyone else now LOL
> Instead, it now causes Damage over Time Multiplier for Ailments to be equal to Critical Strike Multiplier, causes Critical Strikes to not deal extra damage, and makes it so Non-Critical Strikes cannot inflict Ailments.do weapons override keystone lines like this?eg. non crit from Pneumatic Dagger still applies ailment?
>>486620669+2 alteration shards ;)
>>486619224They're not gutting them, they're making player quantity and party quantity not work on them. If the wording isn't being gigasneaky the base rates for solo, non-quant players are identical
>no phys taken as on watcher's eyes anymoreReminder that Varga has over 5,000 of these banked and will be selling them at Chris' behest for mirrors each.
here is your 3 prismatic oil keystone bro
...
>Homebrew a selfcast archmage penance brand in Wildwood, it's my new favorite build>Killed next league>Discover BAMA, it's my new favorite build>Killed next leagueBros am I cursed?
>>486620601lerly u rn
w-what is this
>>486620863whoops forgot my pirate MTX, here's a better pictureguess my build
what melee skills are being used here? its like a red slash coming out the sword
>>486621207Lacerate?
>>486621207Lacerate IIRC
>>486621207lacerate
>>486620970how do you see these on the tree?
>Monsters in Ultimatum Encounters drop loot once again.We're so back.
>>486620892Nope. "Cannot" overrides everything.
>>486620970>>486621118where you seeing this?
Why did they remove divine blessing?
>>486621118footfags in shambles
>>486621353>why did they remove a free aura
>The War Bringer Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer provides "Warcries grant 10 Rage per 5 power if you have less than 25 Rage", "Warcries Sacrifice 10 Rage if you have at least 25 Rage", or "Exerted Attacks deal 50% more Attack Damage if a Warcry Sacrificed Rage Recently". It now provides "Warcries Exert twice as many Attacks".RIP my nigga redblade banner, always kept it real when it came to generating rage.
are we really league starting flicker strike
Ice Shot Warden, yeah?
Where can I view the 3.25 skill tree at? Is that out yet?
so did they just delete transcendence builds from the game or can you make it work somehow still?
>>486616240They already stated that some of these enchants are for certain bases only, there's 0 way we are getting cascade back for free, it's gonna be for one handed swords or something retarded
I skipped the Q&A, did they have anything interesting to say?
>>486621243>>486621246>>486621253thanks think im gonna use this one
>>486621353because it was just dumb
>frenzy is now bow/wand onlywhy
>>486621396that takes away like 14 million dps from my build...I would use it for haste/malevolence
>>486620863
slamGODs won.
I still can't believe we have a freaking auction house holy mollyThis league is gonna be epic
>>486621585BASED gladchad
I don't like dooming without reason but this league looks so trash it's unreal, what's with these fucking mobile brainrot mechanics? Logging out was buffed harder than melee was ffs
>full elemental venom gyre wardenthoughts?
>"buff" melee>effectively remove war banner from from gameLmaoMelee is totally fucked this patch
Think whatever melee build i go for will try to work this in for a bit.
>>486621450the screenshot has a bow in the bench, which means its auto-filtering out the modifiers you cant apply to it.the real hidden nerf here is that returning projectiles are missing the og vengeant cascade's infinite pierce, so get ready for penetrating arrow quivers becoming mandatory
>The Unbreakable Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer provides "8% of Armour applies to Fire, Cold and Lightning Damage taken from Hits". It now has 15% of Armour also applies to Chaos Damage taken from Hits.>*dies to a random fireball from a white skeleton mage*
>>486621695meanwhile bowchads get FREE vengeant cascadeimagine being a meleecuck in 2020+4
>>486621826um your 12 endurance charges?
>>486621826just stack endies
>>486621502they said lacerate not dilate.
IS SUNDER A GOOD SKILLI REFUSE TO PLAY STR STACKING FAGGOTRY
>>486621674>didn't even get a buffWhy not Cobra Lash instead? Or Frost Blades?
>>486621695Na dog, I want it this way, and the game is better for itIf something is mandatory for all melee builds, may as well remove it and it also balances out
>boneshatter barely buffedit's over
>>486621959it's ok
>>486621959all melee is good now!
do we still laugh at meleetards?
>>486621525trans frenzy is melee only
>>486621959Melee builds took a -50%ish damage from removal of totems then got all the skills damage doubled. Also the exertion support gem is insane if you're using like 3 exerts.
>>486621964vaal version got buffedalso warden ailment stacking
>>486622078no we pretend we always played melee
will this change at all
>>486621272>>486621334https://pathofpathing.com/?v=3.25.0-pre#
>>486621664>get ready for bed>queue up 8 hours of settler npcs trading and running maps>plant 8 hours worth of wheat>list up my day's worth of currency and div cards on the auto-trade>wake up>my runesmith is upgraded and my bank is full of 15 divines farmed by my settlers and 200 divines from my afk tradesproblem?
>>486622259Only spilling will go down
>no more battlemages cry>but most skills have 2x added damage effectiveness Is this a buff or nerf to strength stacking? I guess you could still go crown of eyes but then you lose elevated crit chance...
So what's the move for a noob?Join the melee train, or do something else and have a bette time when you need to buy some equip?
>>486620970>>486621118Wow.That is terrible.Profane Ground is nice, that's just.. nothing.
>>486622312
https://pathofpathing.com/?v=3.25.0-pre#AAAABgQCOjkABS0GJAlYE0wYkSDaIOMkui0wMXg53TrtPQBEd0WpR7VKfVn-Wp9fOWBBYwtjcGWnZfBmtmfEdPF68Xt0fNl_2oIHg7aDvYTZheyfcqJ7pBmsn65QsKu5Pb02vqfBi8X3xyrNX89-0_zaLtun3Cfl4-l2xyoAAA==R8 and H8
>>486622392big time nerf, str stacker without battlemages would struggle to kill T16 monsters
>>486622496fuck off shonenfag
>>486622046Its over for boneshatter. The time of other melee has arrived. Boneshatter died so that we may live. Step into the light brother.
>ravenous passion no longer provides cast speed from rageFUCKYOUThat thing was SO good as enabler for a fuckload of builds.
>>486622559back to the last epoch general sweetie.
>magic find is gone>magebloods are gonna be twice as expensivegenuine question, why are you guys happy about this change
>>486622026Sure but they didn't address the reason everyone was using it in the first place so now melee is just fucked unless they waste even more affixes on accuracy
>>486622219Yeah that gem is nuts. 34% more at level ONE if you're only using seismic and intimidating.
>>486622759Did you forget Wildwood AND Sentinels are back?
>>486622487toxic rain pathfinder
>>486617386Me too. Thinking righteous fire of arcane devotion on hierophant. Just bummed about the herald of ash change.
>jew maxers picturing their mad stonks after league start
>>486622392yeah you lose crit and accuracy equal to strength and nearby mods and warcry buff effect on battlemages and have to wear crown of eyes. overall I'm gonna say a nerf but nothing that stops it from being the best melee archetype
BALD FUCKING RETARD
>>486622312>problem?yeah, sounds fucking boring
>Yes, this league I will play a melee buil...
as if having more fucking shard isn't bad enough.. they made the new ones FUCKING THE SAME COLOR AND DESIGN. HOW IN THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO TELL WHICH ONE IS WHICH
is frost blades good?hatred got gutted...maybe if return projectiles works?
LOGIN BOYS LETS GOOOOO
Did anyone pay attention to the league mechanic at all?
>>486623014POE might be the most hostile game ever to visual clarity. They still don't have a colour blind mode despite it being such an easy to integrate into games.
>>486617263>pob warriors>divine blessingbruh, it was free aura for pressing a button every once in a while
>>486623014they're just crafting bench materials why do you need to know which is which by looking
So Grace only gives half of flat evasion it used to AND it doesnt have % more?
>>486623014>>486623131skill issueno need to cater to the genetically inferiorthe world owes you nothing
>>486623010Will DE ever not be completely and utterly OP?
>>486621906
I cannot wait for the new passive tree to be in PoB
>remove melee totems because they were tedious >nerf banners so you have to place them to get an effect, which pretty much makes them function like the totems they removedWhat did they mean by this?
>>486623115yeah it looks great, we are building the main town for path of exile 2.
>>486623027Lose a little flat damage, get hatred nerfed, in exchange for 2.5x the damage ratio. You'll be fine little bro.
>>486623365Totems lasted 6 seconds and could die. Banners last minimum 10 seconds and are immortal.
>>486623115Yeah.>Monsters now drop Gold>You can now find resource deposits in areas, which spawn monsters, kill them to begin mining those deposits for resources>Gather these materials to build up a town, hire workers to make the work faster>You can farm and automate mapping, breakdown items into material for Recombinating items, find Runes for putting Enchantments on weapons, and send crews out on trade expeditions to come home with literal pages of loot>Many mechanics take real-world time, some measured in minutes, others in hours, set and forget, come back when you get a notification that they're done>Also there's a currency exchange that eats a bit of Gold for quick-swapping currency
>warden elemental venom gyre>FREE 100% shock>FREE 2 second MINIMUM freezes>FREE DOUBLE SCORCH>FREE SSJ MODE FOR MELTING BOSSES>VAAL VENOM GYRE BUFFED FOR INSTANT APPLICATION OF 100% SHOCK
>>486623365banners don't die and they aren't half your damage
>>486623450forced to play venom gyre though. people will think you like Kobe
>massively nerfed defensive aura base armor/evasion Why...? I used them all the time as a bandaid when I got to maps... now I'll have to spend more time fixing my gear earlier in the game...
>>486618196buffed kaoms heart + rathpith with random 6L hypothermia helmet
>>486623492>>486623426Also no gay fucking cast animation
>>486623528venom gyre is fun tho
Can i get a QRD on affliction corpses and how much they matter for spectres? I didn't play that league.
Not gonna lie, shitty patch notes, changes to melee are insignificant because they removed a lot of good shit.Hope that the mechanic is somewhat okay.
>>486623426Totems also can be resummoned instantly, Banners are gone once they are depleted.
>>486623564because they buffed the baseline of gearalso get fucked armour/aura stackers
>>486623564because base def on gear got buffed you retard
>>486623646They could provide basically level 30 wrath/ager/hatred/haste auras
they really turned POE into a mobile game LMFAO
>>486623737neat
>>486623646They were insanely good.They have been nerfed and we don't have the details yet.
>>486623564its a nerf targeted at aurabots/aurastackersfor everyone else its at worst neutral and at best a buff
>Fist of War now has same damage bonus for both hits and ailments>Glad has a permanently moving bleed node>EQ damage massively buffedEarthquake of Amp Gladiator time
oil extractor removed?
>league mechanic is comfy WoD garrison kino literally building the town PoE2 is gonna be set in>massive melee buffs>effortless currency tradingyup, I'm thinkin based
>>486623564gear is supposed to have higher flat armor/evasion/es now
I will league start Gladiator and I will be HAPPYFinally my boy got his legs back>Fat fucking block is back on the menu>100% more damage if your name is Quin>Finally don't have to fuck around with crimson dance or bows just to make bleed actually function
There's no point to posting or reading here when the threads are this fast.Yes, this league looks awesome. Got everything I asked for somehow.
>>486623895better not, that thing was like 90% the source of all my golder/silver oils
>>486623646Insanely busted. Even if you weren't playing minions it was a free aura on any build for the cost of 3 sockets
Were the necro nerfs needed?
Gladiatorniggers should kill themselves NOW we all know you shitskins are jumping ship from your faggot boyfriend Champ ascendancy since it got nerfed
So, is the plan to still kill all three every time?
>>486624039the only source before was the notable and it got removed
>>486624106like always
Did mark say something about betrayal I zoned out when it was brought up
deadeye leaguestart looks strong, just drop farshot for the fledgeling
>>486624106Alira nerf was unwarranted they should have had just made all of them as good as her.
okay it's unplayable now
>>486624106Oak every time.
is arc witch still viable?haven't played since metamorph
>>486622771No, they actually freed some tree and gem space by removing something that was mandatory and shifting that damage (and plus some) to melee gems.Like another anon said, it's a -50% from banner, but +75% overall increase on most gemsit IS an overall buff, not a massive one, but one that it's there and doesn't require you do actually do anythingIt's not a big UWU damage buff like some think it is, but it is a great managment buff+small dmg buff
>>486624106opportunity cost of only 1 passive now.
>>486624274no, man
>>486624106isn't 40 life good? sorry i play LE
>The Gladiator Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer provides Hits ignore Enemy Monster Physical Damage Reduction if you've Blocked in the past 20 seconds, +5% to maximum Chance to Block Attack Damage, 20% more Physical Damage over Time, 25% chance to Blind Enemies on Hit with Attacks, or +10% Chance to Block Attack Damage. It now provides 25% chance to Aggravate Bleeding on targets you Hit with Attacks, "Gain 50% Base Chance to Block from Equipped Shield instead of the Shield's value", "Inherent Bonuses from Dual Wielding are doubled" and "Deal 1% more Damage with Hits and Ailments to Rare and Unique Enemies for every 2 seconds they've ever been in your Presence, up to a maximum of 50%".isn't this kind of a lot of what gladiator does for an ascendant passive?
>>486624274noplay melee
>>48662434345 res is much better
>>486624129there's no other mention so maybe it can just drop naturally, maybe
>>486624106Movespeed is the only sensible option if you're planning to run your low level ass through the 8 acts after you make this choice. You can swap over to +1 skill point later, but ain't no way in hell you're gonna take 1 skill point over free movespeed in act 2.
>>48662410640 maximum life is an insane buff that you can't get from the tree without more than +1 point of investment
Why did they apply the Ruthless changes to Champ for regular league as well
>>486624106>life mastery was nerfed from +50 to +30if you would have taken that mastery there is literally no reason not to take oak now.
>>486624106help kraityn early on for the MS and respec later for +1help oak if you are playing a build who is into stacking HPhelp alira fucking never
slamGAWDs run this thread
Why no one talking about the chieftain. This mother fucker is cracked now for an ascendancy.
>>486624219I think its a buff for (some) builds who would benefit from the extra ascendancy node in exchange for 5 less fort and no banner (banner is nerfed on all classes regardless)
>>486624520>>486624539what slam am i playing on chieftain
>>486614720Idle games are awesome. What are you bitching about? I don't think you even like poe.
retaliate bleed sweep glad
>>486624106>Still costs 20 Regrets to changeFor what purpose?
why did they do it bros...
Did they finally fix the game?
>>486624715No, it's worse than ever
>>486624591earthshatter, of course
Do tinctures work for animate weapon of reflection?
>>486624591Honestly, go tectonic slam or consecrated path. Full phys to fire convert. New herald of Ash is godlike. New exert support gem is god like and warcries will be insane on chieftain.
you better be a sloomchud not a strikesissy
>>486617163Lacerate of Haemo might end up being more damage, we need to see level 20 Evis. The Retal mastery that gives ailments 80% duration sounds pretty great though. Lacerate of Haemo does a fucking shitload of damage now though, looks like I'm not the only one that caught it.
there is a legit sleeper spell build in the patch notes that got two huge buffs but im not going to say it :)
>>486624365>Deal 1% more Damage with Hits and Ailments to Rare and Unique Enemies for every 2 seconds they've ever been in your Presence, up to a maximum of 50%Wait, they ALREADY nerfed War of Attrition an hour after showing it to us?And people think it was kind of weak pre-nerf...What the fuck.
>>486614876Gladiator or berserker
GUYS QUINS DRUNK ON STREAM AND KEEPS SAYING "NAGGER"
>Enduring Cry: No longer grants a brief burst of life regeneration, or a buff which grants resistances and physical damage reduction based on your endurance charges. Instead, the user and nearby allies gain a buff that grants life regeneration. The Buff grants 2% of Life Regenerated per second per 5 power, and can count a maximum of 25 power. The base duration is now 2.5 seconds at gem level 1, scaling up to 3.4 at gem level 20 (previously 2 at all gem levels). Additionally, nearby allied players are now granted Endurance Charges as well as the user.this + wheel on tree, quality and call to arms on chieftain is perma 10% life regen
>>486624859sorry im an aoeGOD
>>486624973Thats the ruthless change
couldn't they keep totems in the game but without them giving buffs?some people like melee totems...
>the melee rework is simply reverting eight years of nerfsI mean. I'm not complaining. I dig it. I'm just surprised they're actually doing this. I'll take it though. Hell yeah.
>>486624973Anon that's Scion you retard
>>486624219LMAO you can roll CWS DD with Fortify, Adrenaline AND 30% inc aura effect now
>>486625146...Oh.Control+F while useful, does occasionally cause lack of vision lmao.
>buff damage>but remove all sources of attack speed>and remove range from skill gemsmelee nerfed lol
>>486625079>"Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies". YIKES try again bitchnigga karuifaggot
>you don't have to do lab trials anymore
>>486624539I dunno if it's cracked but you can do General's Cry with any weapon now that the stupid shield isn't mandatory. There are a few skills that really benefit from getting the mirage warriors to auto target them for you, like Lacerate of Butchering.
>>486624425Oh look, it's leaguestart time. Time for confident statements by idiots.
>Leech Mastery: 10% of Leech is instant>Claw Mastery: 20% of Leech is instant>Gladiator: 20% of Leech is instant while a Claw is equippedFind a single flaw.
time to login
>MF nerfed>DD killed>Defenses for rangesissies nerfed>Summoners nerfedTotal hopesissy deathEternal sloomgod victory
Was hydrosphere really too good
>>486625495they nerfed low level spell coefficients of ALL SPELLS
>>486625309It's actually sad, overall melees will be slower and hit harder yet bowcucks will still complete maps 10x faster than you.
>>486625487>Defenses for rangesissies nerfedEndgame ranged builds never had defenses anyway. Your gameplan was chaining an infinite number of maps an hour as the fastest build in the game.You died in one hit before and you'll die in one hit now.
>>486625409ok retard
>>486625470You will get oneshot because mobs deal 1354095872349572304576% more damage than they did in 2012 when old Vaal Pact was relevant despite fat kikenigger Wilson claiming that we're 6000x more powerful than we were doing 10 second (not an exaggeration) strand runs.
>>486623646Imagine having nearly every aura provided entirely by specters and that's only 25% of the benefits they give you.
I am going to reserve every warcry and no I will not turn them off in my hideout or mute audio
so uh with quant gone they increases the drops overall yeah?
>GGG are scumba-"Players who have purchased the Iron Maiden or Void Ancestral Warchief microtransaction skill effects will have these removed shortly after the launch of 3.25.0, and the points spent on these microtransactions will be returned to your account."
>>486625626>(not an exaggeration)It actually is an exaggeration.
>>486625689HUUUUUUUUUUUGH HUUUUUUUUUGH HUUUUUUUUGH
>>486625734yes
>>486625734quant abuse is the reason I quit poe so no quant = more players = more profit
so is lightning arrow the new league starter since DD got killed
>>486625758You're right. Strand runs were 15 seconds.
>>486625689HUWAGHHURGHHAAAA
>Last epoch joined the 43% just with the patch notesHoly shit its so over bros..
>>486625889this is a melee league, chump
>>486625896Closer to 40. Still fast as fuck, but not the 10 second madness people misremember it being.
>>486625758It really isn't. Vaal Spark was a different kind of insanity.
>>486625984I don't want to play melee tho
you did buy the $480 supporter pack, right anon? Neon will starve if you don't.
>>486625734Unironically I advise all SSF players to skip the first week of the league because they will 100% fuck it up the rates, every single time they tried to touch Quantity/Rarity they broke something else.
>The Adorned Unique Jewel now has 0-100% increased Effect of Jewel Socket Passive Skills containing Corrupted Magic Jewels (previously 50-150%).>The Defiance of Destiny Unique Amulet now causes you to Gain 10-20% of Missing Unreserved Life before being Hit by an Enemy (previously 25-35%). Existing versions of this item can be made worse with a Divine Orb.genuine dogshit game
>>486626039I'll buy you a supporter pack if you can post a video of someone chaining 10 second strand clears with vaal spark
>>486625896b2b strands were just as fast in 3.24 and that shit had a massive multiplier to map mods.or the lightning arrow meme builds for essence farming and boss rushing.
>>486625960the final flop...
>>486620970Neat interaction with Sporeguard - guaranteed 5% chaos explode
>>486626178>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY ARE THEY NERFING THE MOST BROKEN SHIT IN THE GAME
>>486626178retard
>remove conversion>except on the two chest pieces that matter>buff endurance charges>nerf enduring cry so right side cant use it>but leave ralakesh in the gamegenuinely what are they thinking, this league is going to be more centralized on uniques than ever before
>Many Modifiers that granted Physical Damage taken as an Element or Chaos can no longer roll. This includes Incursion Temple and Delve modifiers on Helmets, Corruption modifiers on Shields, Fire Warbands modifiers on Helmets, and all Watcher's Eye modifiers.>Essence of Horror on Body Armour now grants 10% reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes per Endurance Charge, instead of 15% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage.>Gravicius' signature Veiled modifier is now Banner Aura Effect, instead of Physical Damage taken as Fire and Lightning Damage.>The 10% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Chaos Damage Armour and Energy Shield Passive Mastery has been replaced with a Mastery that provides 20% reduced Extra Damage Taken from Critical Strikes.>The Lethal Pride Unique Jewels that added Physical Damage taken as Fire Damage to Notables now instead give 1 Rage on Melee Hit.>The Taste of Hate Unique Flask no longer has 10-15% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Effect. Instead, it now has 20-30% of Fire and Lightning Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Effect.so uh when we take a phys hit we're just supposed to die now?
The actually good melee skills were only buffed by ~20% aka they were nerfed by 50% damage LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>486626459Your 6000 ward, bro?
>>486626178>>The Adorned Unique Jewel now has 0-100% increased Effect of Jewel Socket Passive Skills containing Corrupted Magic Jewels (previously 50-150%).you have to be the biggest retard if you didn't see it coming
>>486624880Firestorm of pelting
Is my favourite build ever in Ultimatum League, Vaal Ground Slam back?
Bros, they killed Hatred
>>486626312>>486626353>YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS, THEY'RE REMOVING THE FUN! I HATE FUN!
>>486621959Sunder was fun even before the buff. It sucks shit against bosses which is ironic because it's a slow hitting skill, but clearing with it is great. Don't get filtered by its starting AOE, it gets way bigger.
>>486626459build some real defenses cuck
last X patches were like>watch stream >get hyped >read patch notes>my hypes lessens because they actually show the nerfs there
>>486626659COPE NIGGER
My build goes from 200k max hit taken to 30k max hit in the next league. People don't realize how fucking huge the conversion nerfs are.
>>486626645yes, chieftain hatefart vaal ground sloomer is now meta
>literally no one has mentioned trickster getting straight buffed with the base changesThis is not a glad league
>>486626459This is the thing that got me worriedHow the fuck do we cope against phys dmg? They didn't fucking remove phys overwhelm from mobsAnd a few extra 2k from armour now isn't going to change anything
>>486626459*When you take a Phys hit from a mob with Oberwhelms Phys reduction
>Regular Jewels (i.e. Jewels that are not Abyss or Cluster Jewels) can now roll Suffix modifiers for Maximum Fire, Cold, or Lightning Resistance.need to have 100% adorned to get 2% otherwise it's just 1% per suffix haha
>>486626654isn't that what hatred did a long time ago? weird to revert that
>>486626654yea because they buffed armours
>>486626795>They didn't fucking remove phys overwhelm from mobsthey did though
>>486626659retard
>>486626659defiance of destiny was added in 3.22adorned added in 3.23get over it lol
>>486626759Everyone got buffed via the base changes.
>The maximum random Quality from Tainted Armourer's Scraps and Tainted Blacksmith's Whetstones is now 20% (previously 29%).LITERALLY EVERYTHING WAS PRE-NERFED TO BE WORTHLESS WTF??????????
>>486626759>all those stupid dead totems>no Trial of the Ancestors mechanicWell my hype is 100% gone, I won't play farmville for boomers.
>>486626795they literally removed phys overwhelm
>>486626981The others do not matter when you have this shit
frostblade trickster leaguestartremoving phys conversion and jugg means every other form of defense is shit. it's all about ghost dance and evasion
>>486624847nta but if im retarded which is easier to build around?
>>486623231picture this - you're missing one type of the blue dildo to craft. that's why you need to know
>>486626986I have been warning you clowns about this shit for a week now.They even said it in the stream:Nothing is ever free.
>The Taste of Hate Unique Flask no longer has 10-15% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Effect. Instead, it now has 20-30% of Fire and Lightning Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Effect.Is it possible to get 233% increased flask effect?
i would have liked the settlers of kalgur hideout town as a supporter pack instead of rhoa races
HOW DO I SURVIVE AS A EVASION KEK NOW????
did lightning arrow get nerfed ??
>>486627025>Trial of the Ancestors
>>486627151evade
>>486627025Dumb cat poster
>>486627092glad axe+shield bleed looks very strong
>Berserk: No longer provides more Damage with Attacks, more Attack Speed, more Movement Speed, or less Damage Taken. It now provides 40% increased Rage Effect at gem level 1, scaling up to 59% at gem level 20. It also no longer increases the size of your character.
>>486626986So... Whats the point of using this shit now?
>>486627149What do ya think the 36/38 Challenge reward is gonna be?
>>486627151You pick tricksterYou pick ghost danceDon't reply to me if you play ranger fag
>The Dancing Dervish Unique Sword no longer has "Manifested Dancing Dervishes disabled both weapon slots". It now has "Cannot be used while Manifested", meaning you can now weapon swap after Manifesting Dervishes and still use items in your second weapon set.Uhhhhhhhh based? You can fight with your minionbros??
So the new Chieftain warcry node is sick, but isn't the whole gimmick that Chieftain was the only ascendancy that can get 90% max res easily, and now they give a bunch of max res nodes to everyone?
>>486618842interdasting I'll be watching to see if slam impales are actually a thing now
>>486627294no fucking way
Is cyclone good now?
>>486627229okay, let's look at some numbers. say 50 max rage. then you get an extra 50*0.59 = 29% more attack damage, but that's additive with your 50% more so it's only 19% more damage (179/150 = 1.19).Yeah, that's really bad, because that also REQUIRES YOU HAVE TO FULL RAGE. like holy shit, berserk will actually just lower your dps.
>>486627025This. TotA was fun and chill in hardcore.
>>486627468time to play the game piss-sissy, no more paypigging
>>486627338They need to do something to dancing dervish after they slaughtered the minion's AI. The build's been unplayable for a long while now since those changes went live.
How does "Warcries have infinite power" actually work? Does that mean war crying a singular white mob will max out the warcries buff from enemy power? As in you will always get 3 endurance charges from enduring cry for example?
>>486627476I have a friend who was doing ubers and T17s just fine with cyclone last leagueIt's only be better this league so yeah
trickster is now the best melee ascendancy in the gameyou lost, marauderkeks
Lightning Arrow Warden looks good. You don't get Deadeye +2 arrows but you get a lot of damage and freeze everything.
Sellable Kalandra reflects is pretty yuge. There are a lot of nutso reflect ring stats.
>>486627610Yes, except you don't even need the white mob. you could be totally alone and it'd work.
>>486627358yeah, and the whole gimmick of juggernaut was being a walking armor reduction wall, and now they buffed all armors and changed the endurance charges so everyone can do it without being fucking juggernaut>buff all melee>gut all marauder ascwtf
>>486627610means any cry will top the bar no matter the target
>>486627476they doubled its damage and that's not even considering rage or weapon quality
>>486627358What warcry is worth having infinite power for now? Battlemage is dead, Enduring cry is dead
>>486627509Berserk is dumpstered. You didn't even really use it for the damage once your build is put together, it was great because you got a fuckton of attack and movement speed.How tf did they manage to completely remove speed from the rage mechanic
>>486627610 it means warcries always give you their maximum effect no matter what
>no more phys taken as eleHow are you gonna cope now, poetards?
>>486627549i got 35/40 in necro, i want this to happen
I wanna start making builds but it is pointless until the new tree is in PoB, and honestly my builds suck anyways.
>>486627476Yeah. We lost raider so we can't do a go fast zoomer cyclone anymore, but cyclone's going to be great even without. That variant was expensive anyway. At least now you should be able to get cyclone off the ground early.
>>486627151just don't get hit lol
>>486627981softcore trade deadeye.
>>486627981I will simply build armour, as god intended
>>486617583> No burning mod on weaponwhat
>>486627647you already freeze everything with Ele hit, which also got buffed
>>486627981lightning coil is still in the game and unchanged.
>>486628020we go slayer cucklone now
>>486627476Voidforge cyclone is going to fuck hard.
endurance chargies seem really good nowbut i hate keeping that stuff up...
>>48662798112 endurance charges
>>486628151>only 50% phys as ele now instead of 90%Foolish poebab.
>>486628151im telling mark
>>486628217bro your disciple of unyelding?
>>486627862general's cry with voidforge or something
>>486628239>monster starts stealing your charges and removing them all on hitnice build, idiot
>>486628217that's why you play the best ascendancy, hierophant
reminder that poe is balanced around softcore trade>reminder that poe is balanced around softcore tradereminder that poe is balanced around softcore trade>reminder that poe is balanced around softcore tradereminder that poe is balanced around softcore trade>reminder that poe is balanced around softcore trade
>>486628269it's still very good at low investment as an alternative to determination. you just can't get 100% anymore, which was broken and stupid.
>>486622259The hexblast helm is rarer but not needed now that base crit on wands is up
>>486628393All online games are balanced around their peak active player counts. No shit dude.
I want to play a glaciar hammer build, but they obliterated all marauder ascendancieswhat do I play instead, bros?
Why is nobody talking about Chieftain having infinite power warcries? You could build some insane shit around warcries now that you can craft an actual shield instead of using Redblade Banner.
>>486627981I'm going to take the hit with 30k energy shield and instantly recover it
>>486628536scroll up
>>486628536they changed warcry buffs.
>>486628536I'm too busy building an eviscerate/lacerate bleed glad
>>486628536I'm already planning my General's Cry Lacerate of Butchering build.
>>486620243>Mapping feels better than everphys as x gone, determ halved - not sure if it will feel better getting one shotted again
im not using warcries i dont wanna hear a dude go Ah Oh Ah like hes having a eternal fucking orgasm when standing
>>486623115Yep. The mechanics is just going to town and clicking "upgrade" then "send off" and then waiting 10 hours until its done and then you collect your loot
>inca>0/0 results>xiba>0/0/ resultsdefense unchanged
>>486628735Playing Str-Stacker this league (the last chance to) was fucking aggravating as hell thanks to the yelling
>>486628536warcry buffs got gaped, you only care about the exert now
>>486628728lol
all menu leagues are objectively great
>>486628735>Why yes, I do in fact have low testosterone and never played a warcry barb in d2
>that glacial hammer buffUmm… bros? It might not just be a meme anymore. This might finally be the league.>lacerate “buff”>removed the extra flat damageTHE ENTIRE POINT IF LACERATE IS TO BLEED???? HELLO???
>>486627151just evade the evasion
>>486627025>Where is my shitty autobattler!?!?!?Nah
>>486628797>the last chance toDid they do something to str stackers in the patch notes?
>>486623850This is what im thinking. Do they rock a 1 hander and shield or not because i dont know wtf other nodes to pick on glad if not shield ones
>>486628893You can get your flat damage from a nice 2H weapon like Chris always intended.
>>486628972battlemage's cry
>>486628863that shit would drive me insane listening to that shit again and again its why i never played melee
>new league is an idle city builderLmao what the hell? Can we spend real money to skip the wait?
>>486628972ctrl f battlemage's cry
>Hiero straight up getting 16% less damage taken from phys and eleliterally a better champion LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Legitimately, earnestly, truthfully... I am a converted doomer bros. I'm home...
>Flicker Strike: Now has a Mana cost of 5 at gem level 1, scaling up to 8 at gem level 20 (previously 10 at all gem levels). Now has 177% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 142%), scaling up to 408% at gem level 20 (previously 210%).Are it can be ignite flicker tiem naow?
>>486628637What does eviscerate do?I fucking love lacerate Once you get enough range any attack speed you become a quarter/half screen laser it’s so fun
>>486628993the only shield node glad has makes shields worse
>>486629071you can make multiple accounts and make multiple cities for reward farming.>but le gold is le account le boundretards, the rewards from boating aren't account bound
wait are we unironically playing melee
>>486628796look forward to getting hit by phys anon :)
>>486629201retard, you'll have to actually play on all those accounts to get the gold you need to do anything
Flickerbros what ascendancy are you running?
>>486629223No.>doubled mana>increased damage isn't nearly enough to make up for no totems>war banner gutted so now all your gear needs accuracy
>>486629201You need gold to boat and the only way to get gold is to play, if you're going to bot for the gold you could just bot normally and make money that way.
>>486629351raider as always
>>486629362but at least you have defenses and the nerfed determination is made up by armour buffs while what the fuck is spellcuck gonna?
>>486629053>>486629073wtf am I supposed to play as my comfy smooth power curve easy gearing melee build now
>>486629351if youre not going slayer youre a retardedend charges are the best defense in the game now and everyone wants them, flickcucks want frenzy and end to become unkillable
>>486629421>>486629325if boating is good enough, people WILL farm on an account enough to boat, trade their gear and boat another account
>SST is fucking backHoly fuckHOLY FUCKIAM… ALIVE!If there isn’t a new shield base I will shit myself
>>486629143no that's retarded. bleed though...
>>486629351slayer as always
>>486629454
>Slayer>Sunder of Earthbreaking >2h Axe>Vaal Pact
>>486629362You’re braindead, dude
>>486629513Anyone autistic enough to even consider multiboxing is probably already doing group play for way higher profits.
>>486629506I'm actually nauseous thinking about how much replica farrul's is going to cost
>carn said melee lost damagegladiator is DOA slams are DOA
>>486629362>increased damage isn't nearly enough to make up for no totemslol is this really the best doomsissies can do
>>486629073>>486629053bro... your crown of eyes?
>>486629741for carn melee=boneshatter
>>486629774>>486629741They’re coping so hard right now
>>486629797>give up the most powerful helm mod to use a shitty uniqueno thanks, budget str stacker is miserable
>>486625487But i can just have my slaves do my maps for me.
>>486627151lightning coil and ralakeshjust like every other build
>>486629741They lost an aura, 2 buffs and got a slight buff on banners, 75% more damage on skills and less attack speed overall, its a slight buff, but since % phys taken as was nerfed melee will be even shitter than usual.
Playing Ice Crash. Unless someone smarter than me convinces me it's a bad idea.
um generals cry (literally anything)
>>486629964Braindead
>>486629741who?
>>486629985you will convince yourself of that after playing it for 20 minutes
>>486627061Name 1 good trickster build
>>486629741>my build lost banners, warbringer damage, berserk damage/damage reduction/movespeed, rage movespeed, totem buffs, jugg armor applied to ele damage, determination armor, ancestral cry armor>in exchange for ~80% more gem base damage and seismic cry armorm-melee bros....
>>486629985I miss playing ice crash hollow palm, one of the comfiest builds of all time
>>486629992>now deals 51% less damageHave fun frogposter.
THE ETERNAL ORGASM CRY
>>486623259>devs decide to nerf deadeye>endless munitions changes to +1 projectile>deadeye is never played again
>>486630367>with my two handed weapon and melee skill that does 300% more damagethank you I will
>Honed Cleaver's Implicit modifier is now "Hits with this Weapon have 50% chance to ignore Enemy Physical Damage Reduction" (previously +30% to Maximum Quality). This does not affect existing items.>Apex Cleaver now deals 78-121 physical damage (previously 71-111). Its Implicit modifier is now "Hits with this Weapon ignore Enemy Physical Damage Reduction" (previously +40% to Maximum Quality). The base damage change affects existing items, but the Implicit change does not.heistcucks btfo
>>486629741The loss of flat damage is going to make melee feel like shit until you get a good weapon. Not even a decent one. You need a several divine worth weapon for it to feel the same, and then at 10+ divines it might feel better. The amount of people who are going to be pissed off after the league starts will be hilarious. Spells also lost a bunch of damage early too. Such a bad patch.
>>486629741>carn said melee lost damagethis is an underhanded tactic by melee players to get themselves more melee buffs. do NOT fall for it
>>486630540"Please storp playing heist."- mark roberts game director orn path of exile
>>486630556what is the difference in damage in say, a two handed act 5 axe with a rustic sash recipe
AHOH AH OH ALL FUCKING LEAGUE AH OH AH OHLET ME FUCKING MUTE THE CRY MARK!
>>486630540 not only that, there are still 0 changes to Heist.Heist is the only mechanic that cannot reach 100% and has no scarabs for it.
um guys? what does this thingy do?
>>486630367It got so many indirect buffs that it probably doesn't matter that it lost damage. Especially on league start you can just go Chieftain instead of farming the shield and Paradoxica. Your hands are free to use any weapon combo now.
>>486630872that's the fishing node
>>486629741>cry buffs bootyblasted>banners buttdevastated>berserk rectumrenovated>rage oringobliteratedI cannot believe meleetards had hope. You're like beaten wives
>>486630776If you quality it you're getting 20% more damage instead of 20% increased damage, but you lost all of the flat damage on the skill you're using. The buffed damage on the skill gems is also not kicking in till later. Leveling is gonna feel like shit again.
>>486627981Melee is unplayable now. Max hit is 1/4th what it was before.
>>486629645>vaal pactlollmao evenill be here when you post your /deaths at 353 when your campaign is done (only 30 hours, what a steal)
Elemental Hit wand trickster league start, that's me
>>486630971sunder, the meta leveling skill never had flat damage
>>486629797double influenced ss helm is like half the reason to play it, smartass
>75% less defenses on all builds except ward builds>75% less damage for all BMC melee builds>good melee skills weren't buffed at all (like dual strike of ambidexterity)It's fucking over. You WILL play Ward Loop or Vaal Storm Call cheese.
>>486631064You mean Elemental Hit of Autism? You can't use base Elemental Hit with a wand, noob.
>>486628408The broke and stupid part was lightning coil being mandatory for phys damage reduction. Now they completely gutted any defensive options for people not using it
>>486620863I'm still in the build picking phase
>>486631294of course I mean that, who the fuck would play regular ele hit, shit doesn't exist
>ralakesh's impatience + eternal damnation>90% elemental and phys reductionpoeturds?
>muh meleeYou don't fall for this, right?
>Remove melee totems>The new banner system is literally like melee totems.
>>486631531As far as I can tell none of them give a bunch of damage and AS and honestly seem kinda shit
>>486630947>spends half of the stream talking about melee and answering melee related questions>melee dumpstered>spends 0.7 seconds on a screenshot of a bow in a crafting bench and a new deadeye ascendancy>bows move from S+ tier to S++ tier
>>486630362It's a management buff>my build lost..>my build...It was all builds. It was required for you to perform on ALL buildsIt's not "your build" if you have to add it to all builds.This way, it defaults to 0 on all builds, and all builds inherently had that thing "you" have to add to "your" buildNow you can actually make a build
>>486631531difference is melee now is 80% themselves and 20% banners than before when they were like 30% themselves and 70% the totems
imma be honest you guys are always completely wrong about what's good or not at this point before a league so I'll just play sweep on leaguestart. the number is much bigger than before.
>>486614285>GOLD league>no rework of pic relatedmissed opportunity
>>486631531Banners are shit tho
>>486631823berandus is gone forever m8
>>486631518i WILL play rage stacking cyclone berserkeri WILL brick my character in white maps and quit the game on day 3
Any coping slayer enjoyers
>um actually my melee burst damage with both totems and max rage and berserk and totem planted and frenzy charges and max pride actually went down so
>not a single new interesting build or trans gem in this 30k garbagefesto Think I'll sit this one out.
>>486631680All builds weren't using perma berserk and perma warbringer, that shit is pretty exclusive. By your retarded definition using literally anything invalidates a build as being unique and is just ticking off the check boxes. Additionally, that's entirely beside the point, which was that my MELEE build is now worse than it was when it was already in the fucking dumpster.
>>486630325no one can answer a simple question. Trickster is dogshit
>Fixed a bug where some vendor recipes could un-Fracture Fractured Items.Does that mean I can't unfracture helical rings anymore?
>trauma support nerfedum????
>>486631628it's fucking hilarious to me how ggg can't help themselves but to add vengeant cascade to everything
Tell me I'll have time to do Week 1 Savage before this releases...
>>486632328don't worry retard-kun, a streamer will spoonfeed you the new hotness soon
>>486632350all builds were using banners and totem buffs, what the fuck are you talking about
>>486632321>max rage and berserk and totem planted and frenzy charges and max pride actually went down soyou don't even need to go that far, your damage is down compared to just totems and you also lost all of that other stuff too hahahahahahahaha
remember not to spoonfeed retards about what is good or ggg will nerf it before the league starts
>Some of the beasts from Einhar's Memory of Harvest Beasts have been added to the core pool of Bestiary Monsters. You also now have a chance to encounter Black Mórrigan.Easy 6-link items on day 1Tabula Rasa into the trash
>>486632639That doesnt happen
>>486632614no it isn't
is einhar 30% quality corrupt still in?
>>486632874nopebasically you have to floor loot 30% nowadays
>>486614285Settlers of Fuck Your Defenses
This just reminds me of when people were saying the flask changes were a nerf lmao
>>486633007streamers were complaining about the game being too easy anon. tough titties.
>>486633052which flask changes? if you're talking about the change from ele% reduce to max res just now it was a huge nerf
>>486633190it was a pretty based change if you were running a mageblood and melding of the flesh.
what does gog think?
what's the verdict on warcries?
>>486633423warcries effects are nerfed but the overexert support could be good
im retarded, whats the point of the currency exchange? i thought people wanted more of an auction house so they didnt have to visit hideouts and shit
>>486633423warcry stacking sloomer is now meta, you heard it here first
>war banner gives accuracy for some reason, as if i desperately need accuracy rating during a tough encounter and not generally while mapping>dread banner gives fucking block chance instead of impale effect>defiance banner gives fucking suppress chance instead of armor/eva ohoh no
>>486629741>slams are DOAHe's literally sucking off slams bro tf are you on about
>>486633558that's what it is
>>486633558when people say auction house they don't mean auction house, they mean instant buyout trading and that is what we got
>>486633423They're auras now. Reserve as many as you can and scale phys-> ele conversion.
>stupid niGGGers can't just give melee more damage without reinventing the wheelgets real fuckin old having to relearn everything to make a build even capable of reaching t16's
>>486633539>effects are nerfedseismic is more instead of increased and intimidating cry still doubles your damage. only real loss is the massive regen on enduring cry, but end charges are great. biggest loss is honestly what >>486633614 said. the banners are generally just fucking bad. if youre using Resolute as a sloomer (you will), half the banner effect does nothing. the rest aren't even worth mentioning.
>call to arms now reserves mana and causes them to do nothingamazing
>>486633652so you can just put up shitty rolled gear for like 5 wisdoms now? i thought it was just a straight currency only trade
>>486632358I'm not feeding you builds retard open up poeninja like a good shitter
>>486633843no, it's only for stackable currencies. just think of buying alts from bots type trades
>>486633614If you can put them on CWDT then I will use dread banner for low effort avoidance. Otherwise they are all useless.
>>486633614Yeah, those banners were destroyed. War Banner is the only real contender at like, what, 60%ish more physical damage with melee if you take the +30 valor node?
Cleave of rage + rage whirlwind berserker?Kino time?
>>486634084Rage is so easy to generate its not even worth using a skill to do it. The problem is not losing it fucking instantly the second you stop hitting. Chief can do it easily by just utilizing warcry piano to upkeep, but anyone who cant is gonna suffer.
RIP my 150% adorned
Why the fuck did they increase the mana costs of everything again when shit was already a pain in the ass to sustain and everyone was either lifetapping or using EB? Are these niggers retarded?
It's amazing how something as simple and comfy as melee can scare off devs. Every patch, they do everything in their power to make it as crappy as possible, but here, with this league, we've reached new heights of destruction.I play melee in RPGs. Always, because IRL I'm an Intel class. If melee becomes unplayable, well, I won't play your game.
>>486634368they want you to use mana flasks
So we get suppression rolls on armor bases again right?
>>486614285holy shit hiring niggers to run maps for me
So... like... what does Trickster even play? It doesn't really lean into anything. I only ever saw people play it as a base to wear 50 mirrors worth of gear
>>486634516Lmao
>>486634386>new heights of destruction.The absolute state of doomsissies
>>486632063Nobody misses the mechanic aside from griefers, but the NPC would have been great for shits and giggles
>>486634516with recombinators, yes!
so is totems kino now
i like doing flicker strike on it sometimes
my reflect totem build got nerfed bros...
>>486634386>t. retardgood post fren.
guys can i play ground slam without doing a slam build?
>>486630556Literal retard
>NPCs will no longer have items that can be purchased with Quality Currency Items, and no longer sell Glassblower's Baubles.bye bye cheap baubles.... hello bauble-generating vendor recipe
>>486634208Do you get rage everytime static strike deals damage?
>>486634849Do you mean without doing a warcry build?
>No one used to use this fucking SHITTY banner system (put the banner down to dps).>Yeah, well, now it's mandatory.
>>486634974yes
>>486623359it's in beta already
>>486631628I hope thats not exclusive to bows
>>486635138is this a ss from the dev or is there a 3.25 tree floating around somewhere
>>486634987>MandatoryMost you get is like 60% more if you take the nodes and spam warcries to get valor. Defiance and Dread are horrific in the bonuses.
>rage vortex deletedHapakaizerX necking himself on stream in front of his mutt
>>486634849People used to scale attack speed with regular ground slam, but you're missing out on Vaal Ground Slam's biggest advantage in being a vaal skill you can exert. You should really just pick a different slam like Volcanic Fissure if you want to skip the warcries.
Well thats disappointing
>>486635515also rage reduced from 50 to 30 max. rage vortex got raped
>>486631031u little smelly retard im not talking vp until im ready to
turtle hideout or rhoa hideout?
>>486635293it's from my pob, just check in options to get beta releases then update. tree is also up on pathofpathing kinda janky to use though
is this good now?
>>486635682good shitpost sis, see you on the discord
>>486635682It was always good
Just woke up. What did I miss?
>The maximum random Quality from Tainted Armourer's Scraps and Tainted Blacksmith's Whetstones is now 20% (previously 29%).
>>486635758async currency trading, dd nerf, and a bunch of melee changes that don't matter
>War Banner>4% more phys dmgdid they miss the "per valor"? lol
>Ctrl +f Blade trap>NothingWhyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
for fuck sake they just keep bloating this game to shit with useless mechanics. - remove mana burn on tinctures- remove these shit rage nodes and revert your gay ass changes- remove fucking link skills- add actual useful block nodes instead of this retaliation garbage you fucking donkeys
>>486635892No fun allowed
>>486635758>What did I miss?The death of the melee archetype
>>486635617Doesnt matter for the "of berskerking" gem, does it?
>>486635892seems like 30% quality is just from picking up things of the ground nowso yeah fractured phys weapons found of the ground sucks now because you absolutely need 30% quality
>>486635758best league ever
I'm convinced they added all these worthless retaliation skills to the game because someone at GGG saw those videos some guy uploaded of him trying to beat the game using only retaliation and thorns effects
Why is this general so hostile? Every other general talks builds and shares info but this 1 is so secretive
>>486635682you mean is it still by far the best melee skill? probably
>>486636250Why are you so damn lazy go open up a website half the shit people are posting has builds made already
>>486636250secret build dont copy (its the same one everyone else stole from the streamer)
wtf are tinctures
>potential 7k+ armor baseimagine not playing jugg
Still no Alt qual Energy blade.Oh well, atleast i get to try and wrangle a tard melee build with energy blade without feeling like im missing 90% of my damage. :D
does any nigger like sweep doing the knock back? that shit makes it so annoying.
>>486636431>he doesn't knowsis... jugg is dead if you're not using Incandescent Heart
>>486636431that node is garbage now unfortunately.
>>486636250because there's an actual economy to participate in and people who aren't streamers are very protective of their methods
Molten strike bros... are we back?
>>486636489Absolute retard right here
>>486636250/poeg/ is a cursed general.
>nerf every spell during the campaign
>>486634572claw/nightblade bullshit, energy blade ES stacker, int stack wander
>>486636515dont caree, stronger for me
>>486636515We share a general with these people
>>486636595
>>486636548Can we roll reduced proj speed on rings like in kalandra?
>>486636250In trade leagues, everyone else is competition. Even more so in autist magnets like POE
>>486636752>have to use xibaqua in order to get the same ele DRit's trash. would have been good with old armour/es masteries but they removed those too.
>>486636548Molten Strike has always been good if you built for it
>dont have to buy/farm perfect adorned>dont have to buy/farm perfect clusters>dont have to buy/craft perfect corrupted magic synth jewelssounds like a win to me bros, i'll live with 10% less damage and not have to multiply build cost by 100x
>>486636780They brought back the kalandra thing so, maybe?>>486636937Wasnt that only for Aura stackers?I want to league start it and not play poison.
I made a new general but feel free to create another if this one isn't kino>>486636972>>486636972>>486636972
Ive never made a bleed build, can someone ballpark if a bleed EQ build will be better or worse than in 3.24? What ascendancy would be most smooth?
New thread?
>>486636431how?(1300+500)*(1+1.1+0.4)*1.3 = 5850that's with all armor prefixes and 30% qualitywhat am i missing?
>>486637090Its a verry nice general, thank you anon.
Does GGG just have a big stockpile of changes to roll out every time they fuck up with a league
>>48663715215% heist enchant
seems like nu-raider lends itself to cold convert with cotb. you barely do any dmg with lightning but that doesn't matter for your shocks anymore, get scorch from cold to fire or heatshiver and the freeze node is broken defence for sc
>Spend points get a boxGrab yer Wetas fellas.
>>486635682literally every hcnigger will be league starting dual strike jugg
>>486639664You mean Dual Strike Glad for easy Block cap via Versatile Combatant.
>Still no new thread
>>486646431no more threads, the game is dead, it's joever
ambush + static strike + warden = gg (secret build donut copy)
