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>>486614285


Latest News:
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flickergods won
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huge nerfs, worst league ever, it's so over
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>Carn in shambles
'melee league'
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>Glacial Hammer of Shattering
>622% damage effectiveness
>every third hit is a guaranteed crit
>240 crit multi with Marylene's
>2500 base dmg with 10k mana Manastorm
>another 2500 dmg from Frostbreath
>60% More damage from Volatility
>defenses gigabuffed due to End charge changes+Hiero and ES/armor bases getting better
50 mil dps 100k ehp starting. Find a single flaw.
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>>486637161
They killed my girl Raider.

Flicker in tatters
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>>486637225
>Find a single flaw.
only 1/3 of your hits count
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>>486637225
I will now play this, if its good im retarded i cant make builds, help
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My question here
>>486637098
>just look at poe ninja
It doesnt help me understand the differences in ascendancies
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>>486637098
EQ gained ~25% damage, melee bleed gained triple damage (but keep in mind the damage was dogshit before). EQ bleed should be viable but the DPS wont be amazing, I expect around 5-10 million.
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>Completely gut rage, max rage, and berserk
>berserker and use ascendency nodes to get back some of what they took away from rage
>also the ascendency node that tripled bonuses from rage now just gives +50%
This patch is a fucking joke
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>ignore res on impale ascendancy nodes
So can I league start with crit impale now?
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Yep, I think I'll be playing some Idle Poe next league.
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>>486637225
it might do decent dps but it will play like shit
also you should probably just use a good 2h, especially with the new quality that's just going to beat frost breath
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>>486637357
you're still dealing some of the highest damage effectiveness in the game even on the non-guaranteed crits
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>raider is dead
sad. fur is now required to flicker.
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>>486637439
nigger
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>nerfed base armor and evasion on auras, which is really important for early mapping
>"this is fine because they added new armor bases :)"
>you need to farm red maps for the new bases
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Is conc path totems back? I havent touched chieftain since its rework, i think they killed totems for them didnt they?
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>>486637675
retard
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Is there a class that is 2H Melee/caster?
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>think of going chieftain for EQ
>miss jugg QOL
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>>486637727
very back
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unholy might broken faith armor stacker is now VIABLE
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what if I play, uuhh, reave
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>>486637608
timeless jewel 10% frenzy on hit nodes
precursor's emblem 10% frenzy on hit
sword mastery 8% frenzy on hit
mark mastery 10% frenzy on hit
flicker strike 25% frenzy on hit
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>>486637868
Chief with endurance charges will be great. Problem is that the tree is a mess now and good luck getting all the nodes you need and still getting life.
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>>486637935
Wait what the fuck? I thought it was just the gay totems being removed. Kek thats tragic i loved that build many leagues ago
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>>486637212
>crybaby streamer cries about on-paper dps based on patch notes
why should i care again?
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The same enemy can be hit by multiple Sunder bursts, right? Like Glacial Cascade?
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>>486638140
>good luck getting all the nodes you need and still getting life
This is the problem jugg just fills in the gaps too easily it's going to be some mid-league swap shit
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>>486638262
nope. the only way to get multiple hits on single target is using hydrosphere.
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I can't play the game exactly the same as how I did the previous patch. How could GGG do this to me...
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how to get here hmmm
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>ice crash
>sunder
>sweep
>earthquake
>groundslam
which big dmg aoe melee skills are we using?
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>>486638446
its anoint only
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Is this the slayer league. Flicker, cyclone or chad glacial hammer.
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>>486638483
for me? its Consecrated Path
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>>486638394
Damn, thanks anon
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>>486638483
Earthshatter of Prominence or perhaps Groundslam of Earthshaking with Impaler keystone.
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>>486638446
three gay oils
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7k armour body armour needs 15% heist enchant
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>>486638248
try reading the patch notes
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>Another premium league for the 1%
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>Added a slot for Stacked Decks to the Currency Stash Tab.
fucking finally
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>>486638490
>>486638597
wonder why its a keystone instead of a regular node like all the others
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>>486638615
Just roll 400 tailoring orbs to get it and 30% at the same time 4head.
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>>486638248
earthbreaker's on a pair of boots now, so you can still do it. its also buffed to give 19% dmg at 20 and the boots give a lvl 25 version, so 24% damage compared to 0 from before, making it a pseudo 6 link.
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>>486638749
upvoted my good xir
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>Slayer now gets 30% less ele damage taken by stacking frenzy charges
lol
lmao
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>>486638805
Maybe it's for runesmithing since it enchants Keystones
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those eater boots are gonna be 10d huh
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>deleted herald of ash for non-phys to fire spells
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>>486639348
yes fire spells are in a really bad spot now and can't stand to lose herald of ash
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>no auto pickup
fucking shit game
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>Kalguur expansion
>Every build that isn't slams gets deleted
>Slams get at most a 10% buff once all is said and done
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory once again.
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SCOURGE ARROW IGNITE IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
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I’ve played nothing but spell totems for the last 5 years and I’m sure as shit not stopping now
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PoE doomers are the lowest lifeform on this planet right now.

I hope that non-trade leagues can still access the currency exchange market. It should still be fair since there's no gear involved in non-trade (that's the distinction), and everyone is paying the same prices for everything.
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>>486639283
That's pretty good. All damage poisons with the new Perfect Agony for the cost of one annoint and a boots slot seems real strong. Pathfinder literally anything.
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So BAMA lost the flag and the adorned jewel got a massive 50% nerf. Is it finally not the best build in the game?
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>rare overwhelm (old)
>you take 4x damage at 90% pdr no matter your armor
>rare crush (new)
>you take 1x damage because it wont affect the pdr from armor only your total pdr (usually only endurance charges)
>if you have no armor you take more damage from literally all enemies even if you had no pdr
JUGG WINS AGAIN
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>>486639283
and what oils do you need for that one
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>>486639283
why? for the poison effect?
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>>486639692
Yeah sure, instead of farming specific league contents for Fractured/Veiled/Tainted... orbs, I can just farm maps and trade Alternator/Chaos/Divine... for them. So much easier.
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I have a 150% shiny adorned in standard :)
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>>486639913
yes.
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>>486639913
All damage inflicts poison lets you not invest into poison chance at all which is an issue sometimes, yes
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is she right?
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>>486640036
>mfw anything above 100% will all turn into 100% in 3.25
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>>486639913
So you need them to be stationary for 1.5 seconds before you can get the affect or this? I dont know how this works, do they have to be stationary for .5 sec or it just checks if they are moving every .5 sex and throw a vine on them.
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We glad?
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>>486640215
please read harder anon
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BMC Dual Strike of Ambidexterity got a 75-80% damage NERF for 3.25. That's AFTER THE 48% MORE DAMAGE BUFF FROM THE SKILL!!!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAAHHA YOU NIGGERS ACTUALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS MELEE LEAGUE AND ARE BEING TRICKED INTO PLAYING MELEE HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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>>486640215
it pretty much only worked on bosses who would be stationary for a while. the new anoint is what enables them to be a real build and not some meme boss rushing race shit.
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hello bros is poe saved yet
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Convince me not to play glacial hammer slayer and warden this league
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>ground slam of earthquaking
>688% effectiveness
>20% more dmg to close enemies (from quality)
is this the hardest hitting melee skill?
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>>486640114
>two word username + 4 digits
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>>486639692
you literally have not killed shaper
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>>486640426
One of the retaliation skills now hits for maybe 1400~% at close range.
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>dude 30k words, most words ever
>almost all of them are spells being nerfed while leveling by giving them less added damage as you level
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>>486640354
Why would i do that? Its the sleeper build of the century
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how lightning arrow deadeye looking
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>>486640354
i honestly can't
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>>486640316
Glad is still garbage
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>>486640316
you will play the jugg
>FREE eternal damnation
>FREE chaos innoculation which lets you keep all your hp
>FREE max res from new tree
>FREE 10k hp and 200k armor from new bases
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>>486640639
Warden may well be better than Deadeye.
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>>486639760
bama was never good
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>>486640675
meh, warden only seems good for bursting bosses
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Summary:
>aura nerfs - minus 10% damage and defenses to everyone
>Divine Blessing removed - minus 30% damage to everyone
>no more totems - minus 30% multiplicative attack speed and minus 45% multiplicative damage for all melee
>berserk nerf - minus 20% multiplicative attack speed, minus 30% multiplicative movement speed, 20% more damage taken to everyone
>phys as x removed from all rare items + taste of hate - 50-75% more damage taken by everyone
You don't need to go any further. This is the biggest nerf league we've EVER had. Expedition is NOTHING compared to this.
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Is Scion a good class?
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>>486640662
>FREE chaos innoculation which lets you keep all your hp
you still need to get chaos res, armor won't protect you from having -chaos res
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>>486640831
You mean because it has more damage? Yeah, turns out you just want the ascendancy that gives you the most damage.
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>>486639760
What is the flag?
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>reddit is ecstatic
>/poeg/ is ecstatic

Hopesisters... We did it. We fucking did it.
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>>486640929
eh...
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>>486640426
Is the mechanic that shit that it needs double the effectiveness of base ground slam?
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>>486640923
>rf jugg never used any of this
lmao get destroyed metacucks
(gonna get 50k armor with the new base after determination loss)
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>>486640316
Yeah nigga. We Glad, keep scrolling
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>>486640114
on paper sure since it stops poopsocker sweats from "ruining" the economy with multiple div loot explosions and opens up more design space. although the reality is probably goodbye affordable HHs and magebloods and the design space opened up will get filled with something worse because faGGGot is a bunch of stupid niggers
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>>486640929
It's mostly dogshit. Most of the nodes are bad.
But a few nodes are good and some builds really want to just travel across the entire tree (for stacking voices for example).
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>Item quantity has been removed from items
Based or cringe?
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Remember when Poop1 players were coping that their game at least would never have gold? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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did perfect agony get better or is it still ass
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>>486640512
I will try to this league, and you still will fail the basic humanity test upon character creation.
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have they nerfed essence farming at all in the patch notes i havent read them but ill probably do that early league
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>>486641223
Would be better if they remove Magic Find in items too
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>Increased Duration: Has been renamed to More Duration Support. You guessed it, it now grants Supported Skills 30% more Skill Effect Duration at gem level 1, scaling up to 39% at gem level 20 (previously 45-64% increased Skill Effect Duration). Quality now grants Supported Skills have 0-10% more Skill Effect Duration (previously increased).
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In the end it all comes down to the Last Epoch.
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i cant decide if i should buy the turtle hideout pack or the rhoa racing hideout pack

i like the armor of the paladin but i like the turtle hideout more
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Accuracy stacker bros... we are back, litteraly doubble damage
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50 shock warden bros...
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>>486639283
boots are 44% drop on NORMAL eater. 50choas max
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>>486641263
it still has no gold (that you can trade for items, as you can only for services)
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>Double strike of momentum
>Warden
>Tri-elemental claws or swords
>Suppress capped
>Possible tincture or block investment
Thoughts?
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>nerf melee to the ground
>"this is a buff"
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>>486641308
i've gotten farther than you have in ssfhcr on my first character
your only cope for this at the time was that you thought you had played the game less than i had
have you come up with a new cope yet? did your hair grow back? norwood status?
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>>486641473
It won't go live like that. Obviously.
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@486641263
nobody in the history of poe1 gave a shit about whether there would be gold or not, especially with poe2 on the horizon. I award you no (Yew)
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>>486641308
that's call and all but you've never killed shaper
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RF chieftain looking good desu
unlimited power enduring cry is a ton of regen and end charges mitigate the degen now
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>>486641441
>the rhoa racing hideout pack
This one.
Host Gambling events.
Take 10%brokers fee.
EZ
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this little nigger is getting buffed to 353%
just use ralakesh.
with 10 frenzies you get 70% more dmg and 70% more attackspeed which together is 190% more dps.
bros?

also for some reason the regular frenzy didn't get buffed and is still 135% effectiveness lmao.
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>>486640514
Does the damage effectiveness keep going up as your spells go above level 20? That sounds like a buff to me.
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>>486641616
The transfigured gem is now melee only.
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>>486641553
>i've gotten farther than you have in ssfhcr on my first character

Ok, but did you kill Shaper? If not, adjust your jeer to the last boss you killed in HCSSFR, and I will respect it.
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>>486641616
You need to consume the charges
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>>486641803
bald? fucking retard?
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I'm going to make another Earthshatter of Prominence build and it's gonna be awesome
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>>486641818
to gain onslaught? who cares.
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>>486641818
Only to gain onslaught retard.
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i still have no idea how ward works
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Is DD CoC still good?
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>>486641915
it doesn't
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>>486641915
Is just es but it all regens at once
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>>486641510
LMAO poison Seismic Trap bros ww@
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>>486641659
You're right. Spell league again.
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>>486641915
you take no damage from hits that would deal damage below your ward value. ward breaks if the damage is over your ward value.
>>486642001
lol + rofl
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Decide my build for SSF, Flicker or EQ?
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>>486642093
Melee is always a bait.
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>>486641915
it's worse es unless you have the unique ward flask. that's all you need to know.
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>>486641589
>has to reserve mana now to even compare to jugg
lmao
just go jugg and get 20 power enduring cry on bosses if you want it that bad, it'll be about the same regen anyway because of untiring
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>>486641659
It doesn't really matter. Because it's not effective to max both spell level and +flat dmg anyway.
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give me your league snackie ideas

going to the store this weekend to get some
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>>486642001
If you're ok dealing 85% less damage then yes, it's fine.
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>>486642230
wait my bad you dont even get charges with autocast anymore
have fun using enduring cry on cooldown with chief lmao
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>>486641607
good point, im going to host on 1488
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so witch is just the worst class now right?
like there's no reason to play any build on it
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>>486642275
For me, its onions + honey mustard SNYDERS pretzels. Or jalapeno SNYDERS.
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>need to attack 3 times in a row
>walking or using any skills reset counter back to 0
okay this is dogshit
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>gladiator
>aggravated
>varunastra
>jack the ax
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PoE1 will never have Gold
PoE1 will never receive a melee remake
PoE1 will never have a boat league
PoE1 will never be rollslop <------- YOU ARE COPING HERE NOW
Tick tock PoE1 fags, PoE2 is the new groove.
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>>486642275
tempura seaweed
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>>486642460
do you get the weapon skill bonuses for attacks with both weapons?
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Laceratebros how we feeling? Negative 180 pdps to our weapon but 3x damage.
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>>486642382
get a new image
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>>486642275
chicken nuggies with a variety of dipping sauces
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>last epoch online outage
They took a huge L today.
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>>486642761
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>>486642275
rice cake with crunchy peanut butter
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>Everyone is talking about the gigantic buffs received by melee players.

I feel like the timeline's gone kino again!
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>>486642846
PoE should have dropped a 1 week event before the league just to decimate the last sleepoch
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>>486642609
no but i have %100 chance to bleed so 1 attack=1min dps anyway
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>>486642696
It has good damage effectiveness per second, among the best it looks like. But it's still not that far ahead and it's an awkward skill. So meh.
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>>486642896
Cant wait for the league to start and everyone to remember it wasnt totems that made people not play melee, but the shit playstyle. The seethe will be delicious
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>gold is back
first pebble...
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>>486643038
Meleelards are going to have a rude awakening when they realize they now have 42% less attack speed with no recompense.
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>>486643038
personally i cant wait for non-melee to all get their shit pushed in now that their catchall defenses got nerfed
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Honestly thinking of just doing another Boneshatter build, but it feels weird to do the exact same build as I am now again though. How do I spice it up or what other good melee should I use?
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>>486642457
it's ok if you can get enough attack speeAIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>486642696
sand stance lacerate for clear and eviscerate for anything tanky
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>>486643038
Jokes on you I like the retarded slam piano playstyle
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Sooooooooo if your warcries are autocasting you no longer get the buffs? What's the point?
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>main league mechanic is a 1:1 copy of the feature so bad it almost killed WoW forever
ON NO NO NO
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>>486643197
That's what I don't get, the melee buffs compensate for warchief loss and nothing else. Can you imagine how fuckawful this shit will feel leveling without protector
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EARTHSHATTER BROS WW@
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>>486641473
Shh we cookin
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which melee skill do we use for ignite?
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>Gold
>Auction House
>Idle map running

Bros, the soul is leaving PoE, it feels so weightless now.
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Shield Charge ignite memebros...70% more damage for free!
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>>486643563
Retard
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>>486643482
wow was a bad game from day 1
the fact that it has stayed alive is a testament to the MMO player's voracious appetite for shit.
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>>486642408
Necro seems still incredibly strong. The only nerf I could see are to the adorned jewel, while every other build category seems to me to have lost more, between the berserk and totems and the other nerfs
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The removal of added physical damage is really brutal, and the increased mana cost sucks, too.
You aren't going to be dealing 2x to 3x damage. It'll probably be more like 1.2x to 1.3x. And without ancestral totems now, the damage you do will be about the same.

I've been trying to crunch the numbers, and that's what I'm seeing. I'd be happy to be proven wrong desu
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>>486643678
are you retarded? what are you playing on necro? they deleted bama from the game. are you playing srs into endgame?
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>Endgame Kalgur is getting my NPCs to play the game for me so I can get all the rewards without actually needing to play
KINO, the worst thing about PoE is playing it and now I don't have to!
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>>486643452
Exerting slams, which is now the only point of cries
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>removing all the sources of max rage
Lame. I played a rage stacker as my third character for like the past 5 leagues.
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Every melee skill I look at that seems cool I just remember that it loses base 70% damage and lots of QoL from totem loss and I lose interest....
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>>486637225
>Find a single flaw
strike melee
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>>486643482
Well, it was shit on WoD because it was the only shit you could do in the game, at least PoE has massive endgame content so the "garrison" is just a side project that will give you currency.
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>>486643792
nigger
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>>486643792
Don't worry bro! With the new scaling melee is probably better than before (once you get a 100d weapon) :)
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>>486643767
spiders.
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>AOEsisses lose their added phys damage
>StrikeKINGS keep it and get better damage percentages
we won
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>>486643709
>I've been trying to crunch the numbers,
Just add a line that gives negative added damage to an item, remove totems and multiply the damage but the differance in the new damage numbers
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>>486644027
>StrikeKINGS keep it and get better damage percentages
No we dont...
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>>486643767
What do you mean removed? They mention a bugfix for it in the patch notes.
You can also run
- srs
- golems
- zoo
- spectres
- animate weapon
- skelly mages
- melee skellies
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>>486644027
frostblade chads ww@
besides still rendered completely bald by the death of hydrosphere
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>>486643982
clunkiest piece of shit i ever got memed into playing.
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>>486644072
I don't think there's a way to have negative added damage in pob
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New player that started in affliction.
Are all the league starters from last league dead now with the defense nerfs?
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Well, I was going to play Explosive Trap shrapnel trickster anyways, thanks for making the choice easier BFR.
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>>486644319
Might play it on warden, stuck between fb and glacial hammer
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>>486644319
What did they change? cant find anything besides the damage change to it
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War Banner is 24% MORE melee phys damage to bosses for free. Phys melee is gonna be fine.
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>>486643482
garrisons were based gold printers
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its crazy to me that over the last 5 yrs of development, all theyve managed to do was bloat the game with useless mechanics and shuffle numbers around on skills. Same shit skill design, same shit combat, worse bloat, worse grind. What keeps you guys playing if you played before 3.15? Is anyone here even from before that time at this point?
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>>486644856
shut up faggot
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dark paladin back attachment looks good on this season's kirac vault set
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>>486644856
poch flopped btw
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>no ancestral protector
>rage doesnt even give attack speed anymore
>melee phys support still has an attack speed penalty
>most melee gems still have an attack speed penalty
>if you invest in warcries or anything that isn't weapon specific nodes, you gain no attack speed
the greatest heist of all time was convincing people that these were buffs
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I guess its dex stacking hiero league start again...
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>>486645119
The idea is to only hit them once dummy
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>>486645194
If the attack is slow enough, you're standing still for quite a bit unless you roll attack speed on the weapon. Trust me, as someone who mostly plays nothing but slams, you can and will just fucking explode in the time it takes for that slam to hit. Tons of mobs just start spamming projectiles at the edge of your screen.
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>>486645405
Your molten shell?
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>>486636972
How awful is Champ (non-EA) if you rely on Worthy Foe for accuracy?
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>>486644549
projectile return craft
and tinctures
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>>486645119
>Spend 1d on dex stacking jugg
>Litteraly double damgae from last league
Yea ez t16 farmer day 0.5
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The Perfect Agony Keystone Passive Skill no longer causes Modifiers to Critical Strike Multiplier to also apply to Damage over Time Multiplier for Ailments from Critical Strikes at 50% of their Value, or provides 30% less Damage with Hits. Instead, it now causes Damage over Time Multiplier for Ailments to be equal to Critical Strike Multiplier, causes Critical Strikes to not deal extra damage, and makes it so Non-Critical Strikes cannot inflict Ailments.

This is busted good btw. Nice replacement for Adorned stacking.
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>>486645535
>adorned stacking
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is this good? i really dont want to click on warcries.
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>>486645523
I mean in regards to hydrosphere
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Man, looking at day 3 tricksters for league start inspiration is grim. It's all hexblast and exsanguinate. I don't wanna be a miner/trap cuck.
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>>486645658
If all you cared about was the exerction damage, then you're fine. But the free buffs are now gone unless you manually use them
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>25% block from 2 tree clusters
>56% base from ascendancy (includes shield)
>versatile combatant 65% max
Just 17% more block chance from anywhere and you have permanent >87% hit damage reduction on gladiator.
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>>486645525
*accuracy not dex
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>>486642417
delicious
>>486642518
i just threw up
>>486642780
only if mommy brings them to me
>>486642894
yum
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>>486645658
If you're an exert slammer you'll be reserving your entire mana pool just to automate warcries, and if you don't care about exerts it's worthless.
100% bait option, just play another build if you hate warcries that much
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>League starter
Explain this? Why not just play the class you want straight away?
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>>486645658
Endgame melee is dead without Battlemage's Cry. Warcries are dead if you have to selfcast them for buffs. It's never been this over.
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One thing that people aren’t considering is also that we’re no longer dealing with buffed up mobs on every map, so even if everything is slightly nerfed it should level out
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This shit looks trash. And half the new glad tree is wasted on it.
>3 sec cd
>conditional
>fighting for socket space on an archetype that only gets 1 6L (unless you use the squire)
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>>486645947
because most skills in the game play like shit without investment
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>>486644951
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>>486646024
Imblying the league encounter mobs won't be overtuned on launch
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>The Iron Breaker Cluster Jewel Notable Passive now provides 50% chance for Hits to ignore Enemy Physical Damage Reduction and 30% increased Physical Damage, instead of 10% Overwhelm and 35% increased Physical Damage.
isnt this busted
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Odds I start BL orbit hiero
Evens I start pconc trickster
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>>486645947
With a league farmer I can farm in 8 hours the items I need to get my build going that would take me 20 hours to farm on that build
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>>486646109
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>>486646015
just get a crown of eyes little bro
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>>486646156
enemies barely have any phys reduction anyway
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fucking legend i just logged on first time in months he is still digging his way to hell

>>486646295
>>486646109
im buying this i love this armor set how is the weapon effect does it do anything when you kill enemies like the treasure hunter weapon effect?
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>The Staff Damage and Stun Duration small passives prior to Smashing Strikes now grant 16% increased Staff damage (previously 15%). There are now three of these nodes instead of two.
HOLY FUCK BROS THESE FUCKING BUFFS ARE INSAAAAAAAAAAAAANE!!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR THE TALKATIVE TRANNY VIDEO ABOUT IT!!!!!
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>>486646156
I think overwhelm can put phys resistance into the negatives. So no. Fact check somebody
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>Nebuloch league
Think about it
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>>486641093
I'm actually considering starting RF again, how has it been since the changes?
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>>486646482
it cannot.
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>>486646325
>weaker buff
>no buff effect scaling
>no strength stacking helm
it's over
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1e6t6mn/currency_exchange_market_should_be_available_in/

Autistic pedants are the deadweight holding this game back.
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>>486646156
not really, it's good for annoying rares though
also i bet PDR ignore doesn't even work against Toughness which is generic monster DR getting added this patch
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Reading the changes to warcries and banners is so confusing in text form. Just give us the gems themselves, please.
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>>486646489
unironic dual wield time
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>>486646089
bleed, 30% less doesn't matter with the base damage that high
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>>486646570
>0 points (6% upvoted)
self-suck faggots can't stop losing
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>>486646570
Then the devs would have to set base prices, which would ruin the point of it being a market.
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so what's my league start coming up?
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>>486646570
>ssf should have trade
brilliant.
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>all this melee talk
>nobody even cares or seems to notice 100% of the spells in the game were just nerfed
handcast bros...
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>>486646156
If you're going pure phys hit you're going Impale anyway and that's already redundant with the Master of Metal and Ascendant Champ changes. So this is good for what, Berserkers and Iron Commander builds?
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>>486646156
well, it's good against enemies that has stacked pdr from endurance charges and mods (enemies gets 15% pdr per end charge)
but most mobs you face has no pdr at all and you can't take it into negatives.
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>>486646448
it doesn't do anything but shoot lightning from time to time idle. If you have ghostveil from kirac this league, it's gonna kick ass in PoE2 for Templar >>486644951
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>>486646509
As far as I can see it should be business as usual.
You lose a bit of defense from the nerf to the auras early on, but the mobs should also hit less hard from lantern being gone. Later on if the new bases are enough to compensate for the nerf to auras you should be as strong as before
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>>486646570
>leddit
stay there
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>>486644374
Hexblast is fine and buffed because wands have higher base crit
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New boss tech:
Purity of Ice Sublime Vision
Nu Taste of Hate
Boss with no fire DoT or lightning DoT
134% flask effect

All fire and lightning damage from hits will be taken as cold damage, meaning you can walk around with 0% fire/lightning or wear Doryani's Prototype and you 100% ignore boss pen.

Think about it PoEbabs.
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>>486646934
>another hexblast league
Lord have mercy
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>>486646692
No, they wouldn't?

>>486646734
A global exchange where everyone pays the same prices and the recipient is unknown is entirely dissimilar to private bartering where any notion of competitive fairness and game integrity goes out the window.

Nitpicking a single word without understanding the different applications or actual ramifications of it is the autistic pedantry I am pointing out.
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>>486646934
Sandstorm Visage will be Original Sin rarity though.
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>>486647160
>No, they wouldn't?
oh so you're a retard and you want SSF to just be trade. why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>486643771
You still need to pay them gold, that you need to play to get
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>>486647062
>have to reroll every map with ignite, extra fire, burning ground, etc
no
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>>486646685
If your opinions are perfectly aligned with Reddit, and these threads already almost always are, there's no reason for this thread to even be on 4chan aside from occasional indulgence in the N-word. You are no different from those people.
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>>486647160
wait, are you not making fun of that reddit post?
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>>486647103
I did it last league and im not doing it again. Im probably doing some stupid bleed build with zero understanding of how to even proc bleeds
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Heatshiver Glacial Hammer Chieftan with a big ole MALLET

A BIG OLE ICE MALLET TO CRACK OPEN
TO FREEZE EM UP AND BLOW EM UP AND THEN BURN EM
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>npc's will run maps better than you
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so coc dd is fine?
DDCHADS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
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>a tripfag is a fucking retard
innumerable instances thereof.
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Yep sounds like a max stun Boneshatter of Carnage league to me
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>>486646570
>>486647160
>>486647305
humiliation fetish?
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shit no one is taking my rhoa 10% tax on gamble race bet its over

>>486646840
yeah i really like the crusader aesthetic look, i agree its going to look great in PoE2
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>>486647275
I want SSF to be two things:
1. Solo
2. Self-Found

These things would be perfectly intact with the inclusion of the CEM. They could even just have NPC prices for currency mirror global supply-and-demand, making it have exactly the same outcome but without any actual player-to-player exchange occurring.
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I just got home from work and watched the trailer. Looks decent. It really just is Garrison league, which is a bit weak. Seems like there's a lot of big meta changes though. A straight up new ascend is pretty wild, so ranger just gets 4? i can't imagine they'd kill one
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>>486647478
>shit no one is taking my rhoa 10% tax on gamble race bet its over
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>>486647316
I’m thinking of trying some form of splitting steel champ/jugg, the changes to the bottom of the tree seem good for it
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>>486647516
you really should've paid attention to the trailer you were watching retardbro. they literally said raider is gone.
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>>486647352
>big ole mallet
You can just say Marohi Erqi. And how are you going to make it feel not shit when you can't instantly fix attack speed problems with rage, berserk, and protector?
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>>486647516
raider is gone, replaced with warden
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>Been playing piano warcries for the last 6 gorrilion years
>Know how bad it is
>Streamers still kind of remember how bad it is from the earthshatter days
>MFW Watching all their hearts sink when they realize we're going back because literally everything else got gutted
>MFW looking at all the scrubshitters unaware of just how bad that build feels to play
This league is going to implode.
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>CF Glad, Glad's only good build nerfed in like 5 ways
Now CF has to go Champ even more then before with the loss of 20% action speed exchanged for lucky block
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>>486647365
Did they ever talk about what the npcs will be picking up?
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>>486647624
archmage spells are even stronger than before, dd is gone but you can just go blazing salvo instead and it's arguably better
it's not that everything else got gutted, it's just that everyone is going to bait themselves into thinking shitass melee is worth moving to
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>>486647582
>splitting steel
Always wanted to try that with the clone sword, maybe this is the league
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So would it be best to not play Melee first thing of new league because everyone else will be and make everything costy?
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>poeplanner updated already
>PoB not going to update for like 4 days probably
PoBros, it's over...
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>relentlessly shitpost about muh hcssfr for months
>babyrage over ssf being ssf
what stage of HIV is this?
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>>486647743
>archmage spells
Wait, archmage is back? Since when?
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>>486647624
I never minded actually using warcries but after they were nerfed in expedition they have felt awful. I dont think they will even reach pre-expedition power
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>>486647401
Average DD player IQ right here
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>>486647814
beta branch has the tree already. items aren't updated yet (well kaom's at least, haven't checked others)
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>coc dd is fine
what did mark mean by this?
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>>486647882
Since 3.24.
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>>486647795
I was tempted to start Flicker but you just know Farrul is going to cost a fucking arm and a leg
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>>486647478
Excuse the HDR but it looks kino as fuck on Cathedral and Atlantis too
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>>486647928
Doing 85% less damage is still ok damage for such little investment needed.
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literally just lancing steel coc any spell and it's probably better than any bullshit melee pob or whatever other fucking bullshit like ps mines people are gonna shill. This games builds have become so fucking dogshit. Maybe ill play shockwave totems this league...
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>>486647160
i feel the same way about hardcore, i love playing hardcore but having my character rip to standard when i die is just stupid.
i don't know why they can't just let us res in town or something.
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im thinking of just league starting a Sanctum farmer, so like inquis brands
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>>486647795
just make your own gear it's not that hard
also
>he fell for the melee meme
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>>486647751
I played the champ version of it a bit last season and it’s godly except that of your final 100mil dps, 90 mil of it is locked behind a nimis and an expensive timeless jewel, so basically you get stuck in red maps limbo where you need to juice them to gather enough resources to get your power spikes but because you don’t have your power spikes you can’t juice maps.
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>>486647062
>134% flask effect
Good luck brother
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>>486648031
forgot to toggle the lighting on the book of the back attachment
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>>486648142
I'm playing Melee right now and its not that bad, all the changes are just going to make it even better, except maybe the warcry stuff
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>>486647795
think i'm going rf chieftain or inquisitor. there are so many changes I just want a reliable starter while the bug fixes/balance changes roll in and I start going full autismo on the town building.
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>>486648156
here it is on Atlantis
arguably the best back attachment in the fucking game
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>>486648095

They could just as easily have NPC prices mirror global supply-and-demand, and the same effect as including the CEM is achieved. The only difference is, again, autistic pedantry.

If "no trade" really is the maxim, then why are NPCs in the game? You've forgotten the point of what disallowing trade was intended to accomplish, and how different forms of trade affect the game.
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>>486648146
>nimis
Well im never going to be able to afford that, guess it i have to look for another build
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>>486648335
they explicitly said that this is a test run for implementing a similar market in poe2. not for the turbocucks that are ssf players.
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>>486648394
Just get the proj return enchant with the new league mechanic, duh.
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>>486648495
Oh yea, I hope that isnt only for bows or 2h weapons
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>>486648335
this is such a good idea, you could also generate items with similar stats to the items on the trade site and set them at a normalized market price, this is just what solo self found needs
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>>486648495
>Can only enchant talismans
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>>486641473
this would be hilariously fucking broken and i assure you this item went under the heads of everyone at ggg
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>>486648156
wait it has a toggle on the light on the bible back attachment? holy kino, do you have the rhoa hideout btw? how big is it?
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What happened last league that Reap and Exsang needed their leveling nerfed?
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>>486641473
>>486648580
I dont get it, why is it good?
its 60% increased damge for 3 ailments?
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>>486648705
they did that to all spells
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>>486648663
I only did the $60 pack because I already have space turtle. Might do rhoa course if it's fuckhueg but I don't really like the gimmick.
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>>486648729
Please go read what warden does
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>>486648705
it happened to most spells. my guess is to make them more like attacks that have their damage effectiveness scale up.
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>>486647365
If they pick up everything in the map, they'll be good for cheap currency farming. I doubt that they can run even simple league mechanics like Blight or Harvest.
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>>486637225
Doesn't scale aoe wich means very slow clearing
You can make Heavy Strike do 1 gazillion dps as well, but what's the point, in this game you not only have to hit, you also have to move
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>>486648729
the new warden ascendancy lets you apply up to 50 different shocks
50 x 20 = ???
profit
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>>486648580
this would get hotfixed instantly, there's 0 chance they're letting 90% of the playerbase be wardens running around with 2 tamings
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>>486648335
or you could just pick shit up off the ground like every other ssf player.
you have some of the worst takes i've ever seen itt. always some retarded shit, i'm going to have to agree with
>>486647447
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>>486648663
Also the blue accent fucks up the aesthetic for solar knight RIP
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>>486648729
warden lets you inflict 50 shocks on a single target for 1000% increased damage, you need to hit 25 times per second for max value, but even a quarter of that is ridiculous value for a ring.
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what did you fags get from your weta box i got the plummeting vaal orb rare finisher, pretty happy with that desu

>>486648767
yeah i know i like the turtle more fuck man i need to make my mind up
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>>486648563
Gear should still be self-found.

Currency should be currency, which is, by definition, interchangeable, and ideally at fluctuating rates.

What I'm suggesting would still have SSF be distinct from trade league in these ways:

1. You still have to play the game solo, you cannot rely on any other person for any kind of advantage.

2. You still have to find all your gear yourself.

3. If you exchange currency, you do so at the same rate as everyone else does, so uniformity and competitive fairness is still perfectly intact.

There is nothing actually lost as far as game design principles go unless you love being starved for *specific* currencies, and none of you play Ruthless so I know that isn't the case and you are just bleating pedantry.

Ruthless could have its own set of added restrictions (such as a raised gold fee) to keep it Ruthless.
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is it known if you get the actual map drops or just a set reward for these auto farmed maps?
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This just in, you can also have multiple ignites on a target (the highest damage ignite deals damage). People never realized all these years that there is secret Taming tech with it.
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>>486648776
>>486648830
>>486648974
Ooooohhh, thats probably going to get fixed pritty fast tho isnt it?
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>removes melee totems
>but you have to press warcries again to get buffs
>and you still have to plop banners
Yeah my wrist says I'm not going melee
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>>486649050
They said you'd get the divination cards for the specific map, so I assume so
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>>486649050
Im ganna be throwing my valdos into these
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>>486649095
absolutely. it's already been posted here multiple times which means it's on the front page of PoE's official forum (reddit)
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>>486648990
I got some gay decoration
If you don't have turtle get the turtle and get the dark paladin tier later, $150 all in. $90 dark paladin series isn't worth it imo desu senpai

Almost spent $30 on the mimic chest pet but I figured it wasn't worth the gimmick.
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>>486649049
>Gear should still be self-found
so should currency. and fragments. and maps. and your fucking dignity.
end of discussion. i'm not reading whatever retarded shit follows this
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Perfidy is a pretty nice armor for "stand in the circle" league mechanics. Permanent 9x multiplier on the base buff, 18x multiplier if you have just 100% aura effect.
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>>486649049
currency is used to make gear

if you are trading for currency you are trading for crafting materials which is just trading for gear

so it doesn't really have any place in solo self founded
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>>486647160
behind all your bullshit words you want to trade with other players
you can't trade with other players in SSF
just play normal trade but don't use tradesite at all, problem solved
but i guess you get a hardon everytime you see the half green flag thinking to yourself how superior you are to them trade plebs
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>>486649246
yeah i think i will do that because this league coming up looks to be a long one as well, i think they are going to make this easily a 4 month league maybe even 5 because of PoE2
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>>486649049
Did you know you can use currency on items? In SSF you shouldn't be thinking about how much other stuff you could trade for a Divine, you should be thinking what you can use the Divine on. I personally think that rare currencies should be turned way up in SSF to make up for it but the idea is you don't trade and use only your own gear.

At this point why not just play normal and only trade with currency items rather and don't sell any gear. Or is having the SSF icon next to your name really that important.
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RF chiftain bros...
how are we looking???
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I find it funny that everyone skipped over the staff changes and did not even read about the 78% spell block they get for free.
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>>486649563
Just as bad as before
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Ok, you're all right, I'm wrong, I'll go delete my Reddit posts. The SSF experience should be strictly self-contained and not influenced by the actions of other players.

I just really like currency markets. I day-traded bitcoin for a living for a few years. I got all excited for a minute.

Now, see, unlike you retards I can admit when I'm wrong, learn, and make changes. That's why I play Ruthless Hardcore Solo Self-Found.
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>>486649502
Yeah I'm expecting this league to last til early January since PoE2 beta is late November. Goddamn I'm really not looking forward to overlapping supporter pack$$$ between PoE1 and PoE2
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>The SSF experience should be strictly self-contained
what a revelation
fucking retard i stg
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>>486649806
>what a revelation

A big revelation is yet to be had by the Softcore players ITT. At least I am closer to understanding the game than they are.
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>made not one but two leddit posts about this
>told he's a fucking retard
>comes here and spews the same disgusting word vomit
>told he's a fucking retard
he will learn nothing from this experience
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>>486649596
disintegrator league at last
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>>486649942
you haven't killed shaper.
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>>486650065
But I did learn, I learned I was wrong about one thing, and I have owned up to being wrong about one thing with my name attached to it for full responsibility taken. That is more than anyone has ever learned in these threads before.

>>486650112
You dodged the question when I asked what was the hardest boss you killed in HCSSFR before.
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this is your brain on SSF kids. remember, trade keeps you safe.
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>>486650112
but he is learning. today he learned what currency is used for in path of exile. next month maybe he will learn about kitava.
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I cant believe GGG nuked last epoch's servers on patch day. Pretty scummy tactics
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>>486649639
i think the best thing to do is just get the poe2 packs, you then know for sure that you have stuff that works for both games, i think december is next league latest january
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APOLOGY LEAGUE
MELEE CHADS OUR TIME IS NOW
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>>486650241
Can you sit down already the adults are talking currently about the game
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>>486650292
Furthest I got in HCSSFR was yellow maps.

Most here haven't gotten past Hillock.
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>>486650391
Adults take responsibility for their speech and actions.
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>>486650401
And I've gotten my 4 stones and 5 slots on ssf without crying on reddit about how you can't trade in ssf, what about it?
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>didn't play melee since the war cry change making them not instant
>got excited to play melee again and realized you have to wait for the animations to end
So uh what the fuck is the point?
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why not allow currency trade in SSF? Just do fixed rates with NPCs for conversions.
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>>486650649
I honestly thought that's what it was going to have for the ssf replacement
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>>486650649
>why can't i trade with other players in ssf?
drink bleach
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>>486650730
Why not delete all the NPCs then?
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>>486650649
Agreed
It's no different than buying fuses for jewelers from a vendor
Trading should be allowed in SSF as well by the same logic.
Only grouping should be forbidden
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Honestly a crazy amount of changes this league
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>>486650815
Is this not how it's going to work for the league mechanic?
Idk why everyone's hung up on the trading thing for ssf

Do you guys think you won't be using the ships either in the mechanic because that's technically trading as well kek
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>>486647401
yeah bro play it at league start
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ITT ssfcucks reveal how desperate they are to play trade league but can't because being a total cuck is their identity
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i hate tripfags so much, bros
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>>486650782
>why can't i trade with other players in ssf?
>with other players
>other
>players
drink sulfuric acid
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>>486650964
SSF should be a viable playstyle like Circle of Fortune in Last Epoch is instead of some autistic challenge mode.
I don't want to trade, I want Path of Exile to copy Last Epoch's handling of SSF which is by far superior.
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Can you tradecore and retardcore shitbirds fuck off
If you want your 6 link now now now the second you drop a divine then just play trade. SSF is completely fine if you're not an illiterate mouth breather who doesn't even know what a fucking fossil does
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God this is going to look so funny when they explain ssf has the equivalent of vendoring for currency in the mechanic but the name is still going to be trade
Please screenshot these posts
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I'd rather let ruthlessniggers tongue my anus then speak to a solo self cuck
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>>486650964
it's one pockmarked tripfag suggesting it
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>>486651128

You know what, I bet the Currency Exchange Market is already just going to be included in SSF, because if it wasn't they'd say it wasn't. The patch notes don't say it isn't.
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>>486651292
He took off his trip kek.
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Can i sweep bleed now and bleed pop the whole screen?
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Sooooooo what are Ben and Jungroan saying? They're the only ones who matter.
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>>486650342
>I'm sorry for not nerfing you more often
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>unlock hard mode in first descendant
>dont know what to farm for
>most of the stuff to farm is just… a new character to play to maximize to farm another character
>or the above sentence but gun instead of character
>no building to do really just pump your skills and go
Hmmm
Well. That got boring fast.
Back to last epoch I guess
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>>486651438
I never do that; it's just another anon trolling.
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CF and bleed bow both nerfed. Didnt even fix the only 3 notables being useful in Glad for those builds. Seems like they wanted to do their best to remove as much ranged options from duelist they can.
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>>486651510
carn says melee is nerfed
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so BowChads just get all the free attack power and will be clearing 100x more quickly than meleecucks
lol
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>>486651556
time to load up slayer bleed bow
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>>486651097
I’m buying both for the first time
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C25HJlUV5Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxab9eR-UY

RF won. You can start seething now.
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by the time melee cucks leap slam over to an enemy to hit a strike attack bowchads have already fired 10 times without even seeing the enemy on the screen yet
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How do you guys think the retaliate skills are going to be?
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>>486648990
I got the crab hat. Pretty good I wanted a crab piece. Would had preferred the chest or back but whatever.
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>Warcries are all garbage now
WHAT THE FUCK
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The new gold currency in 3.25 is such an innovative and genius feature. Other games will copy PoE gold soon.
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>>486651556
Yeah, but SST bleed is back is all I care
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>>486651837
Wait a second...
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KNEEL BEFORE YOUR BOWCHAD MASTERS MELEEKEKFAGGOTS
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>>486651556
How were they nerfed faggot
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>>486651773
congrats
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they should have called this mazed league
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>>486648990
I got an octoparasite, which might be fun given that I'm still planning on building flicker.

Time to fill the screen with bullshit.
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>>486651949
champ was massively nerfed. glad lost the 20% more damage over time, and gained pretty much nothing else for bleed bow.
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>>486651740
a complete waste of dev time adding them
nobody wants to walk up to packs and wait to get hit to clear maps
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>>486652160
retard smoothbrain
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>>486651949
>Loses maim, 20% action speed, 20% more phys dot
Absolutely nothing was nerfed
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>>486652273
i forgot about challenger charges lmao. god damn glad sucks even more now
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>>486651565
Before the """buffs""" you're already doing 80% less damage and taking 150% more damage. GGG is fucking completely out of touch. Skills should be viable post-campaign and before you get Paradoxica.

>>486651740
Great for melee ignite. Useless for dealing damage.
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>Intimidating Cry
>Seismic Cry
>Rallying Cry
>Overexertion Support
>Chieftain
>[Insert Slam Skill Here]
How retarded is this out of 10?
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>>486645514
Not an issue at all if you have attack speed or use warcries, but the bonuses ain't super great.
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they nerfed my rage and onslaught meme for attack speed, what are some other great options for attack speed
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>>486642275
I used to stock up on energy drinks, candy, snacks, and then order a pizza for every league start even as I got older. But last year I started to get heart palpitations and was diagnosed with high blood pressure. I was 285 pounds. In the last year I've gotten down to 155, but sadly it means no snacks, pizza, or candy for me anymore. I haven't had a single sweet or any kind of snack or anything for that entire year. The only time I really miss it is during times like these. How badly I would love to order an extra large pizza, get some potato chips, some sour candy and just go to town but it ain't worth it bro.
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>>486652329
New glad is quite tanky for melee builds but basically shit for any ranged options. Damage is at an all time low for Glad though which is wild assuming retaliate skills aren't insane. 100% more damage node is only good against uber ubers and Maven as anything else dies before it ramps to anything meaningful.
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>>486652417
mageblood
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>>486652371
Viable with Echoes of Creation, otherwise not worth the effort.
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>>486652528
totally can snack on some tasty and healthy options like undipped celery and shit retard.
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why yes, I will be mapping only to earn enough gold to play SimWraeclast3000, how did you know?
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It's probably not worth using the new warcry automation, right? I mean 15% mana reserve is total bullshit. You might as well just piano them and deal with it.
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For me it's end conc path jugg with echos
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>>486652689
For me its the no buffs, I know they weren't that big but having zero buffs because I don't hit a want to hit a button every 10 seconds is dumb
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>>486652689
>15% mana res for something a macro can do for you
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>>486652892
nice cast time bozo
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>>486652952
urgent orders got rid of the increased cooldown time
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Lacerate of Butchering is 2x629%, Warbringer gives double exerts so with Intimidating Cry you get double damage on 6x2x629% base damage.
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Varga and the other TFTrannies must be seething at the news of the currency exchange. Their gay little faggot club is becoming less relevant with every league.
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You know, I got a bunch of portals but this one looks cool. Not bad for 2 points.
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>>486653019
ok that's not bad
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>>486652528
>In the last year I've gotten down to 155
how tall are you, i hope to god you are quinn size.
good job on the loss either way.
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>Can no longer roll burning damage, chance to poison, chance to bleed on weapons
Interesting way to nerf bows I guess. Still works but have to invest somewhere else to get it.
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>>486651707
>the joy of identifying blue items
I think it's time pohx took a break for a few leagues
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>>486651106
Go play your shit Unity student project if it's so superior then.
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>>486653082
Jesus fucking Christ
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>>486652614
How do you not just die to that shit though
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>>486652614
overexertion makes up for echoes of creation. i think in ssf with sufficient grinding you might actually be able to beat uber shaper
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>>486652417
It's a wander/bownigger league. Play one of those.
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>>486653160
I'm a manlet, I'm 5'6, 5'7 on a good day (realistically I am like 5'6 and a half), I really need to lose another 10-15 pounds because I am at the point where my arms and legs are skinny but I still have a belly and small tits. Though part of my belly is loose skin.

>>486652672
Bro that is not a fucking snack you know that. I am on that OMAD life anyways, I stick to my one meal a day.
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this rue cat seems a little unhinged
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For the shock Warden node you don't have to shock enemies 50 times every 2 seconds, right? It surely refreshes the duration as it stacks, right?
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>>486653502
he has gender dysphoria
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you think GGG will do another twitch drop on league launch like they did with the ice tiger pet?
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I haven't played since Ancestors. I heard totems were removed which is a big sell for me. What have I missed that I need to know about?
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>>486653108
Varga owns thousands of legacy Watcher's Eyes that each go up by a mirror in price every league, including this one. He'll be fine.
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How do I update my PoB to have the beta 3.25 tree? I saw some anon post it.
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>>486653596
Google it.
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>>486653572
that was a christmas drop iirc
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Do all corpses from affliction league return or just the "meta" ones?
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They removed the "oils drop one tier higher" atlas passive.
Are they retarded?
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>>486653596
Melee totems were, not all of them.
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What were they fucking thinking with Tinctures? They're 100% worse than in Affliction and take up your precious flask slots. Is Nu Raider just supposed to be a day 1 character which you then respec into Deadeye to clear difficult content?
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>>486653596
watch ggg live on youtube its actually worth it this time desu there is a fuck load of things

>>486653678
this is like christmas with how good the league is
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>>486651707
>RF won.
What did it win lol
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>>486653604
He also owns 80% of all fucking TWWTs that dropped in affliction
I'm still butthurt that faggot pricefixed the would be crowning jewel of my molten strike build
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>>486653631
in options, check to receive weekly beta then check for updates
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Hollow Palm gladiator with Versatile Combatant and Magebane. FREE 65% block/spell block (87.75% if you've blocked recently), FREE capped suppression, FREE 20% more attack speed, FREE gearing with Kalandra jewelry (nobody is going to be playing dex stack.)

Think about it PoEbabs.
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>RF now requires you to press warcrys every 10 seconds instead of just running. Why not just play BV then?
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Yep it's conc path of endurance time
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>>486652528
Im actually in a simlar boat. I was like 230 went to a stupid walmart blood pressure machine and I had massivly high bloodpressure. So I went on a diet and in less then a year I got to 150 as well. Though im taller at 5'10. Funny thing is after you get over the initial cravings you get used to it and its not issue. Just a bit of willpower is all so many people need.
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>>486654038
Wheres the 20% more attack speed from? Same for free capped suppress
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>>486654098
You act like everyone is a fat retard
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>>486654175
Im american so assuming someone is fat is a safe bet.
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>GGG doesn't balance around HC
>Champion and Juggernaut nerfs
>Which are only played in HC
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Meh, rage not giving you attack and movement speed is kinda shit, that was the only reason I kept going berserker melee
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>Scourge Arrow: No longer has Added Chaos Damage at all gem levels. It now has 117% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 90%), scaling up to 162% at gem level 20 (previously 125%).
wut
isn't Scourge Arrow's current effectiveness 30% at 1, 40% at 20?
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>>486654249
wait until you see what they did to berserk
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>>486654098
Yeah, once I got used to OMAD (which took about two weeks) it was honestly not that bad. I also do 10k steps a day. I am down to fitting into a medium shirt when I used to wear 2-3XL.
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>>486654239
balance, no. nerf, yes
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>>486654408
Nerfing is balancing, Mark, stop being retarded.
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I think I start Maw of Mishief since we have the marionettes back. But are there any new interesting witch builds opening up?
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>he doesn't know about the super secret necro archmage coc dd with siege axe
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>>486654004
Thanks anon, this is so much better than that shitty website.
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>>486654521
have you read the DD patch notes
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>>486654559
keep sleeping on it
lol
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>>486654521
Rue having a meltie trying to sell this dogshit build
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>was planning on playing power siphon mines anyway
>see this shit

>Increases and Reductions to Spell Damage now also apply to Attack Damage from this Skill at 150% of their value.
god DAMN it did enough damage already, calm down mark
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>>486654559
archmage dd doesn't care about corpse life not that much anyway
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>>486654559
>ctrl f detonate
>0 results
?
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>Wet Fart League
pass
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>>486654785
Look at desecrate. You can't use the kitava herald corpses anymore. You're fucked.
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>>486654612
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These banner changes are a joke, right? They're for being used on bosses and they give shit like accuracy and block chance.
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>>486654889
unearth got fucked too, which was a viable alternative with empower/enhance.
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What straws do doomsissies even have to grasp at here?
Can't even complain about the currency exchange without exposing themselves as poor, third-world, goldfarming tradebots.
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>>486654889
Also level 80 corpses vs level 100.
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I can't wait to have my slaves farm my maps
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If those hyper strong weapon enchants aren't unbelievably rare and expensive they are just going to dominate the meta. Projectiles return on your weapons? Trigger socketed skills enchant? That 41% of weapon's damage as elemental damage of each element is pretty strong on physical weapons also.
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>>486654970
you're not going to tell me that placing a banner for 8% spell suppression isn't fucking poggers
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>>486654521
on jung ch rn
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COC DD CHADS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN RUE
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it's a skip league
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>>486655051
I promise you those things return absolutely fuckall. You'll get like 3c at best from a red, and if its rippy they just fail it.
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>>486655085
It's PAWGers alright...
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>>486655085
>ability fires
>wait is it a physical attack or a physical spell attack uhhhhhh
>dead
you dumb niggers get baited by these shitty "defenses" every single fucking time
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Scion with Gladiator node is literally better than the actual Gladiator class. It has everything you need except the bleedsplosion (which you can get on gloves instead), and in exchange you get +5 passive points and free permaflasks.
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>Glad damage sent to the shadow realm in exchange for cheap block chance
>DD nerfed
>Most melee nerfed until mid to end game upgrades
>All spell leveling nerfed
>Banners basically shit now
>Champ's defenses nerfed
>Chance to poison, bleed and increase burning damage removed from weapon affixs pool
Feel free to add whatever other nerfs you would like.
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test
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>>486655085
You made of gem slots? You got valour money? Thought not, you fucking crackhead Karui.
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Okay explain it to me like I'm braindamaged: The new Perfect Agony sets your DoT multiplier to your Critical Multiplier right? Is that baseline before tree additions or a kind of substitution effect? Do I need to tear DoT multiplier nodes off my tree? What about DoT multiplier on crit nodes?

Is this a "we just don't know"?
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Haven't played since 3.15 because of the nerfs. Be honest, will i enjoy this league if i play again? Perhaps i am a shitter but i want to have fun, has anything changed to make the game more enjoyable or has the grind and build tediousness gotten worse?
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>voices are going to be more common
>you can now roll a maximum elemental resistance on jewels
Chieftain bros eating good this league
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alright i bought both the turtle hideout and paladin armor, you got me GGG you fucking bastards well done on making a kino incoming league you fuckers
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>>486655509
As always with GGG the top end of builds keep getting stronger and the bottom end keep getting weaker and this league is no different.
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>>486655503
it probably makes so dot multiplier does nothing
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>>486655502
Totems are DEAD
I'm swimming in slots now you POOR BITCH, I may even socket the gutted version of berserk just for the hell of it to dab on you azmeri ahh niggas
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>>486655503
The wording implies that you take your crit multiplier total and replace your dot multiplier total with your crit multiplier total. So that dot multi no longer means anything.

That's how it's worded. If it works differently it's an error, and they have made errors before.
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Bleed, Slams or Sweep.
Which will be the least bait?
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>>486655503
DoT multiplier increase/reduction does not apply if you click new Poofect Agony. Only crit multiplier will apply.
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>back to basics gone
>so am i
not on exciting thing except the currency market in this.
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>>486655492
that last one is a buff, those suffixes were fucking cancer for crafting
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>>486655509
truthfully, if you dont know what youre doing in build creation, you will never make it past act 8. just play a jewtube starter build and work on your special snowflake trash build afterwards
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>>486655735
slams, probably. sunder was always serviceable and probably got better if you're insane enough to play cry piano
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>>486640923
Everytime I come back in to check check on the game I find out it's somehow gotten worse and there's less people playing it.
I can't believe bald fat retard is still ruining the game and the Chinese let him keep doing it, hope he dies soon so it can be decent again.
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>>486655824
Increased burning and chance to poison were actually used by meta builds but yeah its a buff to everyone else.
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>>486655639
I see. What a shame, LE just doesn't hit the same.
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>>486655509
There is only one question:
https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree
Got a stiffy after looking at this? Then hop on in.
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>>486653116
Yes, gothic atmosphere
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>>486655735
aggravated bleeding on its own suggests a good (non-melee) bleed build isnt bait. melee is SSS+ tier bait
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>>486655882
Not as in meta builds get better and non-meta get worse but as in low investment gets more and more fucked while high investment gets more and more juiced
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>1 lane of blight encounters is guarded only by blight bosses
is that just a lane that spawns like 40 blight bosses?
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>>486655735
Sweep lacks Slam and Ruthless synergies which are great for bleed.
Sweep is probably best played with crit zerker or similar.
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>League is kino again
>anime posters are coming back

Mark saved PoE and /poeg/
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>>486655960
Bleed builds were already applying aggravated to bosses from ensnaring so its just less clunky now and thats assuming it doesnt cost an arm and leg to get 100% chance to aggravate.
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give me an sst build
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>banners removed
>flat determ armour nerfed
>armour of bases improved
yeah, i'm thinking i'm going blood magic with pride+eternal blessing on every melee build now.
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>>486653703
They haven't said, which probably means all the good shit was either dropped or nerfed.
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>>486655861
core game is in the best place its been in ages and currency bots being shown the door is one of the best things ever. doomsissies btfo
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girl (male) here. what build should i play?
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My voidforge flick slayer is going to be so sick as tits when he's up and running, what soulless starter build/strat should I run to fund it? I'm thinking hexblast trickster + sanctum gooncave
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>bulk sell your maps you don't run
or
>through them all through the auto-mapper
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>>486655826
I used to make my own builds and run reds. From what i gathered these years there's rares with bullshit modifiers and the campaign is harder? Maybe you're right, i won't make it past the acts and looking at the patch notes every leveling spell is also a little bit weaker.
>>486655895
Pointless, all is see is L+mandatory life %+grace+determination+spell suppression+mageblood+grind
Maybe just a little half chub from the blight stuff.
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>>486656373
auto mapper cause i'm not a TFT cuckfaggot
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quick, which melee skills hit fast enough for instant leech to be good?
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>enduring charges no longer grant elemental resistances
rip my hopes of playing charge stacking slayer...
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>>486656448
the 'clone
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>>486656448
rage vortex
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>>486656151
it costs one ascendancy point now. sweep and slams got buffed but they also got collateral nerfs
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>>486656373
i never sell maps and end up with thousands at league end
easy choice for me
especially if i can have them run all the shit layouts
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>>486656448
You need to hit hard enough too to cap your leech instance, you can't just equip brightbeak and use molten strike.
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>>486656010
i interpret that to mean it spawns the regular amount of bosses only and does not spawn non-bosses
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>>486656448
Bladestorm, Double Strike and variants, Blade Flurry or its more niche transfigure, Static Strike.
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So a Jugg with 6 End charges now will get 24% (or 30% with Unrelenting) damage reduction from elemental damage after its gone through resistances?
Doesn't that seem like a downgrade from just minimaxing your armor with the old Unbreakable or am I misunderstanding the damage calculations?
That also means you now have to find that missing elemental res that the old charges gave you too.
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>>486656448
None of them now that they're losing 30% of their AS lol
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>>486656553
1 ascendancy node for something you already have. Its just less clunky and applies to mapping the place the build already does well in.
Glad damage for bleed got nerfed into the ground losing 20 more phys dot and 20 action speed
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>>486656568
this. why spend any time in TFT fucking around with yellow maps when i can make the game autorun them for a .00001% chance at something badass
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>>486656174
I noticed that there are still perfects and imperfects so looks like they maybe just bought all of them back but nerfed the aura ones I bet
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g'day cunts ziggy fucken d 'ere
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man this league looks sick, finally something that can hold me over to the factorio DLC
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>Hi I'm Chris Wilson from grinding gear games and for 3.25 we decided to remake age of empire and put it inside Path of Exile, btw we remade the entire base game too, and we discovered the cure for aids, and we colonized Mars.

seen this on youtube comments, its funny because its true
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>he doesn't know about the dd gem damage buffs
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>>486656865
so far, 7 people have been cured of HIV. coincidence? idk, anon
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>champion got its fortitude nodes rearranged at the cost of 5 fortitude
>well I suppose 25% might be worth an ascendancy point
>unstoppable hero is nerfed into the worst node on the tree unless you 6 man
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Imagine playing diablo 4 (lol)
now imagine paying 40 dollars for the expansion pack
and getting less content than we'll get on next league
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>>486656865
Yes, you can't blame Chris for innovating almost every league and doing things that might seem crazy on paper for an arpg.
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Did they elaborate on whether rune enchants could be used on uniques or is it only rare weapons? Feels like it would only be rares considering the enchant modifiers are from uniques themselves. Seems like yet another league where unique weapons are trash.
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https://x.com/empyriangaming/status/1814108054197321833
the gypsy is seething really hard lol
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>>486656857
iktf. i tried playing foxhole again and holy shit the level of artistry there
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give me sst build
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Where's the video of some fat autists telling me what's good and bad about the update?
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>>486656857
Fuck I still haven't finished my nullius run
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>>486657148
How is that seething?
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>>486657141
Only rares, my head cannon is that they early on coded uniques in a retarded way and thats why we never get the legendary potential systems of Last Epoch and Torchlight Infinite.
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>>486657280
you know how nearly 70% of this message board cant wait to cry about DAS JUDEN? its the same obsession with that guy, here
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can i play cyclone hit with a big sword?
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>>486657129
next league they are adding guns trust the plan i heard it in the interview with ziggy when talking about palworld being inspiration
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>>486657417
you can but it will be zdps
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SirGOD Won.
Varga Won.
Mark Won.
Chris Won.
beltcuck lost
gypo lost
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How do you use marauder Melee without Resolute Technique? I can't hit shit
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>>486656669
>Get at least 10 charges on a geared jugg
>Get FREE triple damage from ralakesh
>Get FREE eternal damnation with no downside and more reduction
>Solve chaos damage for FREE with 1 notable now
>Enables FREE aoe and damage per end charge mods, don't need damage nodes
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I did a quick Chieftain PoB for slams and it still seems god awful. Even with the buffs to damage + rage + impale + warcries you still have terrible DPS. Shit is a meme.
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Ground slam chieftain or frost blades trickster. Tough decision
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>>486657968
FB trickster
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Xibaqua jugg:
>+1000ish hp from item life buffs
>+50kish armour from base changes
>alot more damage taken from small elemental hits like exarch balls (irrelevant damage)
>alot less damage taken from large/pen hits like shaper balls or maven fireball (only thing that could possibly kill a jugg)
>save a ton of points on the armor/es masteries
yup time to play rf jugg again and laugh at all the builds that lost their defenses
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>>486658009
Yeah ive never done a melee build outside of cyclone or slams i guess this is the league to do it. Trickster is going to be fun with the new bases
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>grace and determination were halved
Haha, surely they compensated by reducing the overall power of monsters right?
Right?
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>>486658228
it was a great build before the melee buffs, now it must be incredible
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>>486658264
they buffed items baseline armour values
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>>486658303
Thats what i was thinking but that transfigured ground slam has like double the damage effectiveness of base ground slam it might be nutty
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In the end, we too will have our kino summer.
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>>486658264
the new bases + new quality will give you more unless you were stacking aura effect
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>>486658264
maybe get some actual defenses now chud?
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>>486658264
There's also another nerf to ev/ar in the patch notes i don't remember and a little bit more armor on armors. They said that overall it's a net positive so trust the plan.
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>>486657782
ceaseless feast gloves to stack corrosion which removes their evasion using a fast hitting skill like cyclone, then switch to your main (slam) abillity to do damage, this will be attacking fast enough to keep up enough stacks. You also get free Endurance and Frenzy charges! :^)
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>>486658538
It takes less trading to slap on a determination and call it a day.
I always end up with super squishy characters even with """"100k ehp"""""
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>>486658772
get 100k without block/evasion/avoid and then we'll talk
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>>486653116
nice, i got an Churning villager
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Empy was largely happy about the MF nerf. It means his team of 5000 IQ theorycrafters have an even larger edge over dads working two jobs just buying their MF TS set up
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>>486658917
who gives a fuck? normal people play video games to relax and have fun and not obsess over some online literal who losers.
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>>486658856
I feel like I could have an invincible jugg and still get one shot every other red map.
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I desperately want to make a big slam build work, what is the best ascendancy for it?
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>>486659264
chieftain or zerker
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this turtle hideout wont shut the fuck up does it have a permanent orgasm

it sounds like fucking arsenal gear in metal gear solid 2
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I have a hard time deciding whether to take slayer or the new warden. Slamming or bone shattering.
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The Juggernaut's Unbreakable Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer has "5% of Armour applies to Fire, Cold and Lighting Damage taken from Hits".
The Juggernaut's Unrelenting Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer provides any of it's old properties. Instead, it now provides 1% additional Elemental Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge and 1% additional Physical Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge.
>Iron Flask now lasts 4 seconds (previously 5). In Ruthless it lasts 2.5 seconds.
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>Non-Gem items that generate with a Random Quality can now generate up to 30% Quality.
Where the fuck do weapons generate with a random quality? Are you telling me that I have to get top tier item bases off the ground? And Eventuality Rods will cap out at 20%?
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>>486659264
Sunder Slayer, melee defenses fully ranged playstyle, mulches clustered packs. Bring it to synergistic content like Ritual.

Alternatively, infernal cry tectonic slam chieftain.
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>Melee "Buff" league
>Remove flat damage from melee skills making you even more weapon dependent (have fun leveling)
>Remove AS from the totem buff, don't replace it with anything
>Remove AS from rage
>Change banners so you don't get accuracy from them
Holy shit, GGG is fucking insane. Melee feels like dog shit because it is slow, requires accuracy, and deals crappy damage. Now you need a very strong weapon to deal similar damage but are more dependent upon getting accuracy and attack speed everywhere else. Mark my words: This will not be seen as a buff for 95% of melee skills and only those that were already strong (Dual Strike of Ambidexterity) will be seen as having benefited at all.
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>>486659361
>>486659651
Chieftain or Zerker were my first thoughts. Slayer is interesting too, but I don't wanna do sunder cause I did that when I first played PoE. I'd love to do Earthshatter of Prominence or maybe Ground Slam of Earthshaking, but if they suck maybe I have no choice but to do sunder.
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Unique Item Changes
The Adorned Unique Jewel now has 0-100% increased Effect of Jewel Socket Passive Skills containing Corrupted Magic Jewels (previously 50-150%).

>tfw was to poor to even get involved in these gems
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>>486659769
Earthshatter of Prominence interests me, but not more than Lacerate of Butchering (>>486653082)

With Prominence you can get a lot of aspeed with zerker then every 6 hits intimidating cry for double damage and exploding the spike.
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>>486659659
>get free 30% more damage on weps
>get 3x base damage
>no need for 50 conditionals to do damage
sounds like a good deal. only pobtroons seethe at the changes
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>>486659659
I'm going to wait a few days to see how it turns out. My prediction is the league will be bugged to shit, melee is still shit and everyone will rage having wasted their time with a shitty starter, and affliction corpses will be nerfed to fuck.
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>>486659659
slams already had no flat on hit. its a straight buff for them.

boneshatter/cleave/sweepNIGGERS are shitskin KIKES and deserve no sympathy
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>>486659659
>30% more AS and MS for free from rage
That's right for FREE
As in a gratuity, a complementary buff and other words from thesaurus.org
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>>486659085
literally impossible unless you pick overwhelm shrines or something retarded
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>currency ah
its a start
it should be at MINIMUM all mapping supplies
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>>486659659
the lack of atk speed from rage is gonna be brutal
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>>486659659
doomer... begone!
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so yeah chain dd + spraying got buffed
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I was almost tricked and bamboozled into playing melee
what changed for bowfags?
or should I play a wander given the buffs? did they change last league's patch also? I don't remember
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>>486660130
rue you're inbred and retarded
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>>486660130
/thread
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we playing bleed gladilator
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>>486660134
oh yeah, the new Sacred Wisps support gem was what I had in mind
how did it end up feeling bros?
and is Automation support used for anything?
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>>486660238
sis w playing coc dd inquistor
>requires nothing
>wins
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>>486660114
Pick something that doesn't need aspd like, oh, I dunno, bleed Gladiator?
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>>486660238
Hope you have a source of bleed, from what I've seen you swap 50% chance to bleed for 15%+15%.
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>>486660307
it just feels good having a more responsive character, damage isnt a problem
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>League looks great
>...but it has timegated farmville shit
Theres always something. Well at least those shitty timers will definitely get nerfed 2 weeks in
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Dancing Dervish league
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpwqO50eNII
retvrn
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>>486660238
I'll revist bleed bow for sure
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>>486660134
>what changed for bowfags?
Warden's probably an unironically good choice for elemental bow/wand attack builds.
>80% more elemental damage 50% of the time
>better shocks/freezes/ignites if you spec into them
>can tincture too if you want
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I'm going to start a conspiracy that GGG is manipulating the market through the currency trade house
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>>486660503
it got snitched upon
it's getting changed soon
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>>486660238
>bleeding enemies you kill
>bleeds you inflict
Summon reaper snubbed again.
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>>486660650
You said the same thing for the past 6 leagues
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>>486660650
>ssfcuck/hardcuck
>meleecuck
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>>486660510
bleed bow was nerfed
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so what was the mechanic that was resulting in hundreds of thousands of unique drops
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>it's another /poeg/ can only understand nerfs through the existing build framework and not understand buffs that will ultimately power creep players under a new build framework episode
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>>486660650
ビリビリペロリ
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>>486660650
Melee =/= boneshatter
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>>486659659
Boneshatter still has its flat damage per trauma so I don't know what you're complaining about, only melee skills with damage removed were AOE anyway which isn't real melee.
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>>486661108
>Boneshatter still has its flat damage per trauma
boneshatter gets % more damage per trauma. trauma support gets flat damage. hope this helps.
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>Some of the beasts from Einhar's Memory of Harvest Beasts have been added to the core pool of Bestiary Monsters.
Which ones Markothy?
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So what's with all those early game spell nerfs? Is it just early game weapons being upgraded or are they just fucking you for the first 19 gem levels?
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>>486661063
He has been reading patch notes for 5 hours now, holy shit
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No one is complaining or "seething" about the currency market. You are laughing at a strawman in your head.
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>>486661198
Oh sorry yes you're right, per trauma flat damage is only support.
BUT the skill in general does still have added flat damage and the patch notes don't say it was reduced.
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>>486661310
Spells were way the fuck better than attacks for leveling. Still are, by the way.
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>>486661347
B-but how can I enjoy things if there aren't people that are seething about them!
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>>486661310
who knows? most spells felt like shit to level with already so that really came out of left field. *maybe* they have data that says otherwise, but I can't imagine anybody except chris or whoever pushed forth ruthless tried leveling with something like EK and said, "yeah this is too strong". they did buff some of the shittier ones to level with like blight.
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>have to spend 3 ascendancy nodes speccing into a tincture that gives you 100% increased damage
>it deletes all your mana at the same time and you have to micromanage it
whats the point of this ascendency
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The REAL nerf is the strike range nerfs. Gone from every gem and no ancestral cry to get a bro to hit for you. They didn't even buff the strike range nodes so you have to to the bottom of the tree to get anything extra. You're going to have to get closer then ever before to enemies to hit them and with your slow ass attack speed a lot of foes are just going to slightly move backwards and evade your whole swing.
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how good is this buff?
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the rest of the ascendancy stupid faggot nigger
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>>486661726
>She doesn't have 3000 mana/sec from mana on hit as a berserker

not gonna make it
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>>486661595
I'm actually really hyped about the long gratification stuff. Knowing that if I'll keep playing my town will give me something is always nice, makes me feel that if i keep playing I KNOW I'll win rather then just relying purely on RNG drops.
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>>486661726
Did you even read the other nodes?
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>486661595
>486661935
schizo cringe samefag.
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>>486661595
honestly it all depends on how much you have to micromanage it
if it is anything more than once when you log in and once when you log out, or more than every like 8 hours i'll hate it
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>>486661835
The exerted attacks part of ancestral call didn’t get changed though.
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>486662043
melty
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Bleeds from Heavy strike are going to be juicy exile. Combining it with retaliation skills could be fun.
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It's time, flicker bros
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>>486661235
you mean vaguely shaped like a beluga whale's forehead? maybe he echo locates as well
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so what's stopping you from leaguestarting laceration glad this league?
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>>486661835
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can't wait til all u fags get baited by smelee :)
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>>486662415
M-melee bros don't look!
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Guess I'll roll another fucking tornado shot character.
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>melee
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>>486662415
>but glaciar hammer has a +%16690 more damage!!!!!
Yeah, this webm pretty much sums it as to why strike is bad
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>>486662415
i miss ashurposting
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>>486662410
ele sweep warden seems more fun
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>>486662510
Same
If melee turns out to be good or usable (lmao) i'll make another character and feed it shit from the buld that actually works
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melee is just going to completely invalidate uber pinnacle bosses lmao
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>>486661869
>no flat
trash
just use earthquake with le memefist of le culturewar
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>drops were only 45 minutes
>went to bed instead
damn
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isnt flesh and stone just better pride now?
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>70% of base attack time
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>350% more AoE Slams
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can minions join in on the melee buffs...p-please
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>>486662964
pride can apply to spells and flesh and stone doesn't and works better with long range
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>>486663026
>rounds up to ~75% more damage
Fun fact that cleave doing 1billion dps still isnt enough for melee
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So what's the best flicker after I go for RF again and then it can't scale into any meaningful single target damage?
I liked chaos jugg as it isn't paper.
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>>486663063
>melee buffs
lmao
the buffs are really like a 20% buff overall if you got lucky, a bunch of skills really got nerfed. everything else got absolutely murdered. DD is so dead its insane.
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>>486663063
they are never touching minions again, after the revamps they expect for poe2, didn't you see them?
There's no way they are going to pool resources to do minions ok in poe1 when it's completely different in poe2, they just rather let it die instead of converting
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I know block is usually trash but you can spend like 10 points to get Versatile Combatant, Testudo, and As the Mountain if you feel like going for 68/65% block on any left side character. Seems good to me?
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>>486663296
delulu post
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>>486663329
At least you got the affliction corpses to use again. The hydra boss specter was fucking busted for mapping
Thats probably the best buff minions will ever get
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>>486663381
Block is trash and it's worse than evasion
You heavily invest in block for the same defense output as evasion, block block block block untill one thing goes through and you die
Different with evasion is that you don't need the heavy investment in evasion, meanwhile you literally have to build around block to be capped anyway
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>>486663381
block is not trash, just all of the clusters were trash. and they buffed them, so it might not be bad to invest into now.
>>486663542
yeah but if you're on the right side of the tree you're not getting evasion, and you also get spell block which is really nice.
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coc eow is the nu meta
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>>486663542
>block block block block untill one thing goes through and you die
bro your armor and spell suppression?
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>>486663654
i mean left side
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God i'm going to be over the moon watching softcore niggers like mathil5'1 be forced into trying slams and wanting to blow their brains out the second they have to play the game Mark wants them to play

Day of the rope for spellfaggots
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>>486663781
ranged gameplay is still far far superior to meleecucking yourself
keep seething tho
lol
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>>486663542
You would build your defense like any other left side tree so you're not getting one shotted. You get 18 + 23 on Testudo and As the Mountain. A shield can roll up to 41% block iirc. Then you're nearly capped on block and spell block already. One more block wheel would do it, or Tempest Shield with a few jewels.
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>>486663542
They just buffed block on literally everything
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the difference in range between melee and ranged isn't even that drastically different lmao. Do we all just forget that slams were super meta one league? This is just reverting melee back to that.
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>Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies
This is so dumb why can't autoexerction be a new gem and I still get the old one ? I don't want to have to hit another button every time I get into a fight just for the buffs.
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>>486663991
you vill warcry piano
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>>486663943
Slams have barely been buffed though, its mainly strike skills
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>>486663943
>This is just reverting melee back to that.
They removed so much fucking damage from FoW/seismic cry this isn't even close to a revert.
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>>486663943
>revert
slams barely got buffed if you consider all the shit they lost, and they're the big winners
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>Warcries exert twice as many attacks
>ancestry cry = 6 +1 + 2 (heist base type)
>18 exertions
>900% more aoe
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>>486663943
>Do we all just forget that slams were super meta one league
This is fanfic
There has never been a league like that except for the league they added totems which is what... the fucking 1st or 2nd league lmao?
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Hello, retard noob here. If I use brutality on Frost Blades can I stop it from converting to cold? I want to play Bleed Frost Blades but it probably won't work like how I want it to.
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>>486664156
>still doesn't do enough damage to be worth caring about
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ROG IS POG
ROG IS POG
ROG IS POG
ROG IS POG
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with Kaom's Heart now having 1000hp again, are we back, RF bros?
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>>486664156
>has to run through 50 projectiles to get into range
>if he doesn't 1shot the entire pack they will all swing at him since he is stunning himself with the slam
>gets hit once and dies instantly
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>Absolute nerf massacre
>Brainlets see that skills that have a 70% attack speed multiplier got their damage doubled after losing the insane bonuses from totems and banners, so this MUST be a buff patch
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>>486664204
Damage conversion still happens, no stopping it with brutality. Unfortunately.
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>>486664268
we never left brother
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>>486664340
Thanks
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>>486664293
As I said on the thread, the only one not seeing the upsides are brainlets like you, that add totems and banners to every single build and still think you are building something
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The new Rage loss is insane. 10 over a second? And only 2 seconds of time before they start dropping as well. You basically need to get range all over again in every single fight.
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>>486664620
if only rage gain was basically infinite since they removed the "once per x seconds" line from everything
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>>486664551
>Instead of adding totems and banners to every single build you will now add warcries and banners to every single build and also fuck you if you aren't using slams
Powerful...revolutionary...its her turn...
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>>486664268
Not with Kaoms, you need the sockets to run FT.
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It is weird the trannies here say biliz games are dead yet my queue was about 20s per match over 20ish games
.t that zen out healed and 3rd dps
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>>486664691
retard
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but what does Hoarfrost DO????
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>>486664674
Still capped at rage every .5, which is literally worse than the old rage support, so you're wrong.
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Is there a wojak that looks like the rage icon?
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>>486664773
It basically makes you more likely to freeze targets that you weren't able to freeze.
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just ss this thread btw, ready to expose all you shitters a week after league launch
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>>486638249
/thread

also GET FUCKED CHAMPKEKS IT ONLY TOOK LIKE FOUR YEARS BUT YOUR BITCHASSES GOT THE NERFBAT
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>>486664620
that is not an issue, builds that spec into rage have access to 3-5 rage gained per hit. And if you hit an entire pack then you get max rage (i think so if hit is based on hitting individual monster)
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>>486664718
tranny spotted
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What can I throw into a random melee build to get a shitload of attack speed? I already know Blood Rage exists, but I need more. Jewels with multiple attack speed rolls I guess?
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>>486664838
>Only one hit every .5 seconds can cause you to gain rage
NiGGGer trannies trying to revise another nerf patch ITT
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>>486664693
If you ever ran FT you were never a real RF nigga
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>>486664808
So it literally only does anything if the enemy had chance to avoid ailments, is not a freeze immune boss, right
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>>486664829
I’ll only care when there is no new boss
Oh no boss so only mazed play ok
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>>486639634
sheeeeit. scourge arrow anything and I'm happy (it was really fun with dexstacking)
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>caster champ
>15 fortify+10% reduced damage taken
>adrenaline
>aura effect out the ass

>>486664878
Frenzy charges, multistrike, momentum. If you really want to go big, self-chill.
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>melee totems removed after all these years
>melee is now somehow universally slower and clunkier
they're just fucking with us now
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>>486664880
scheisse, I must have missed that part in patch notes.
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>>486664998
>>486664998
>>486664998
>>486664998
>>486664998
>>486664998
new
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Self-cast brethren, status?
Patch notes are looking bleak...
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>>486641308
kek good luck, n00b
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>>486664838
>3-5 rage gained per hit
Yeah with investments. The gem gives you only 1 and you'd need a fair few passives to get more and its STILL only 1 hit every half second or so. Even with maxed out you'd still need 4 to 5 hits for it to work.

But the real issue is before even if it took that many hits to get max rage, you had it and could sustain it for ages. Now you need to do those 5 hits every single time to get to max and you pretty much drop it all instantly if you stop attacking for 2 whole seconds.
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>>486664946
Not exactly. If it's avoiding ailments, it's avoiding hoarfrost as well.
The way it works is basically, enemies have a hp threshold which is needed for them to be frozen, and your freezes don't land if your freeze duration vs their HP doesn't pass a certain threshold.
Extending your freeze duration (which is what hoarfrost does when you fail to freeze) brings you closer to breaking that threshold that you previously couldn't. This stuff is important for Heatshiver users.

>is not a freeze immune boss
Bosses are tagged as freeze immune but they are not literally immune. They just can't be completely paralyzed by freeze, and their thresholds for being frozen are very high, sometimes makes it impossible to freeze them. Hoarfrost will make it so that you need less total dmg to pull off a freeze on a boss or another high threshold enemy.
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>>486664691
>now add warcries and banners
And I will hope one day they delete those two if that's the case
If something is mandatory for every single build, that means that it can be removed for every single build and that balances out too.
If you can't see this, you are a brainlet
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>>486648842
maybe, but they still haven't deleted indigon
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>>486649213
yes. my elementalist on standard will need zero changes to destroy the whole screen in one hit instead of two
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>>486661893
is this kiki
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>>486665154
Delete auras and defensive skills too while we are at it
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>>486665304
Defensive skills nah, but auras, sure, maybe
That kinda balances out because you can't run all auras, you have to pick a couple on a normal build, if they make it so you can only have 1 "aura" skill, that would balance it out.
I don't know why you are in favour of more small shit you have to forcibly add to squeeze some extra % of damage or defense, if every builld have to do it, then it's stupid
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>BONESHATTER OF CARNAGE
>BONESHATTER OF CARNAGE
>BONESHATTER OF CARNAGE
>BONESHATTER OF CARNAGE
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>>486665590
The banners have such a tiny radius and delete when you leave them they may as well not exist
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>>486664190
Slams were very good in ultimatum league, you could just yell seismic and intimidating cry, and wipe the whole circle with one hit.
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>Desecrate: The maximum level of Corpses spawned is now level 20 at gem level 1 (unchanged), scaling up to 80 at gem level 20 (previously level 100).
wasnt the kitavas herald in act10 lvl 73 anyway
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>>486665793
isn't it just worse than heavy strike?
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>>486663317
i'd take 20% on basic melee minions... i just wanna swarm army without always having to do autistic AG and Spectre setups. and please let mage skeles do more than 1m DPS again.
>>486663329
2be fair they are putting stuff from 2 into PoE, they could put some of that nice stuff in if they cared to. and they put one of the best visuals in the game on summon reaper but it's basically unplayable. such a waste
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For next league what's the max attack speed, battlefield meth addict, zoomin melee build that doesn't die?
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>>486660531
>50% of the time
33%



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