Melt It All Away Edition>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passwordergPoisoned: >>487313123
Opinions on this weapon skill?
>want to have fun>this happens
Someone needs to do some sort of psychological study on what causes a player to point down. You'd think it's dependant on how cheap your build is but it seems utterly random. Some players just seethe at literally anything, even the most fair and mundane build possible.
Everyone talks about how woke this game is but no one has the balls to mention how they removed "woman" from the DSIII message system while retaining "but hole." Total reddit humor victory.
>>487351585it's not very goodI was using it on a poison grave scythe on a str/arc build, and it's pretty fun, just worse than doing bleed
>>487351598Damn lmao he totally schooled you fucking rekt look at that skill diff
>>487351598>Takes time to cry about rather than just press PS Home button, go to current game and block username in the span of 4 secondsFuck off tranny who cried wolf
Can I post my theory on why I think the player is actually a godskin of some sort?
>>487351679Why do people spend hours upon hours doing this? Are they so cucked in real life that they need an outlet for their rage?
Miquella is mine and mine alone
>we need types of harmful magic>fire>uh... color inverted fire>hmm... desaturated fire>uhm...>uhh...>oh. And fire that harms your mind instead of harming your bodyBravo
>>487351939Hours upon hours doing what? Pointing down?
>>487351598you didn't even try
how do you make elden ring fun
Most atmospheric location in the DLC?
>>487352219limgrave at sunset
>>487352062was there a way i could've won?>>487351878i already blocked him though
>>487351480Why does Midra get to be called Lord of the Frenzied flame he isn't even burnt by the fingers
Thank you for doing my questline to completion anon.would be ashamed if it was all for nothing and i die anyway when you rest at grace.
https://youtu.be/8FjCWr6Z7xUThis is what Ranni listened to while I rub her feet and she decided to punish me with death for not being good enough I tried. Sorry mommy, please don't make it hurt...
I think I built incorrectly...
>>487352219Honestly I really only enjoyed the first couple of fields and the accompanying three dungeons. Everything else sucked. I appreciate what they did with the village but the location its in sours it and it should have had an NPC there or something.
>>487351973>Regular fire>Blood flame>Black flame>Ghost flame>Frenzied flame>Flames of Slumber>Messmer fire
>>487352219abyssal woods
>>487352362He got burned real bad on his taint, which just isn't visible from most angles
>>487352396>Ok fuck this quest I want my favorite npc to l-
>>487351883That doesn't even make sense
Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Fia, that necrophile bitch, fucks corpses.
>>487352562Damn, you're right. It's all just fire
>>487352687Rotten whore.
>>487352770it's a bad spell
>>487351598>Hides behind a no invasion co-op mod>invasions get activated by developer>bunch of pent up redbros finally get to teabag people>assmad that have to engage in a central feature of the content again>just stands there like a beaten dogget bent nigger
>>487352687nice
>>487352837but it looks really cool...
>>487352095Remove all affinities, infusions, and status buildups from melee weapons. Remove standard physical damage and leave only slash, pierce, and blunt damage. Slash damage should always cause bleed, but instead of a bleed buildup and proc, it works like destined death and slowly drains health for a time after the initial hit. Blunt damage should buildup a concussion debuff like frost but without the massive health chunk. Pierce should have a weaker bleed buildup than slash, and a weaker debuff like blunt, but be able to hit more often and reduce enemy stamina faster.
>>487352960you can literally see the taunter's tongue active, the game is unmodded
>>487352770>>487353001The story makes me absolutely despise the hornsent but their aesthetic is so cool, it makes me mad.
>>487352960The invader was literally using sleep bolts on the spread crossbow, on what can't be higher than a level ~30 host. What the hell was he supposed to do? At that level sleep is just an instant "i win" button.
If you hit the Hornsent with Bloodhound fang +10 R2 with blood flame and dex 56, str 20, with the Erdtree favour +2 talisman, at scadu level 18 you'll cause 1488 damageThought that was interestingTHD
>>487352273>was there a way i could've won?If you played the game the way you were supposed to you would've had enough technique to outplay his dumb crossbow. He was doing so little damage and the fact EAC isn't cucking your connection your can roll dodge the shotgun scatter.
>>487351187>>487351359In fact, if you've hit 45/45 in both softcaps on Albinauric Staff and Dragon Communion Seal, leveling Arcane all the way to 99 is actually better than raising Arcane and the other stat equally. Don't bother raising Intelligence or Faith until Arcane has hit 99. It's skewed that hard.
>>487350568>Here, and here alone, were moon and fire ever together.This, by the way, is just a retarded translation.>月と火は、ここでは常に共にあった>The moon and flame, they were always together hereThe "and here alone" is entirely made upI'm not suggesting she was fucking him, but it isn't shut off entirely by the item description.
>>487353139I want to make a str/fth bear build but the bear roar sucks so I switched to a storm build to do 300 damage with a charged tornado
>>487352219I could seriously spend hours just hanging around the Shaman Village. For some reason the architecture reminds me of the Knights of the Thorn lodge in Oblivion, it's incredibly comfy.
>>487353202>your can roll dodge the shotgun scatter... and still get hit with sleep because Fromsoft can't into status dodging.
>>487352821One of the few sensible characters in this game.
>>487353123Do explain how the redman... isn't red>I know the answer, clearly you don't>>487353163>The invader was literally using sleep bolts on the spread crossbowgit gud or turn off invasions like a bitch in the ini file
>>487351598Typical redWhy they are such assholes and sociopaths?
In lore, Vyke came closer to becoming Elden Lord than any other Tarnished before the Tarnished of No Renown (that's you). He made it all the way to the Mountaintop of Giants before refusing to sacrifice his maiden and succumbing to the Frenzied Flame.So, he would have been the main character, the hero of the Lands Between, the Elden Lord... if he hadn't stumbled a few yards short of the goal.He is, by far, one of the most powerful, or most successful, characters established in the lore. But my question is, which Demigods did Vyke Kill to get his two Great Runes?
>>487352497That spell is just shit.
>>487353202>get slept from one volley>gets 2 free hits on me>volley itself does non insignificant damage>likely loaded his character with everything he could want which means he has more flasks than me and can win by attritionmaybe i could've won if i severely outplayed him, but it would be faster to just let him kill me and block>>487353415
>>487353337That's mainly because you're on a strength/faith build to be fair. My pure faith build was doing like 700 damage per damage tick with the divine beast tornado and sometimes it would hit people twice. Still not good though because it was really easy for people to avoid and that's not much damage.
>>487353139>The story makes me absolutely despise the hornsentIt's a commentary on the brutish behavior of civilizations, it's not like the Golden Order is any different.Why are the giants the bad guys? Why did they have to be exterminated? Marika practically left one alive for sport.The Golden Order also waged war against the Carians. At least the hornsent committed those acts out of their own customs.The Golden Order's campaign of dominance was on behalf of the Greater Will.
>>487353415>or turn off invasions like a bitch in the ini fileHe's taunting anon, he's in base game.>Do explain how the redman... isn't redHost's trick-mirror.
Malenia.
>>487353482Nobody here cares about the lore sorry they only care about gay memes and pee vee pee
>>487352497Str/Dex or even specializing in one of them is just better if you want to cast wind magic because the AoWs are good and the spell is shite.
>>487353693Post the full pic, coward.
>>487353798I don't know where it is.
you don't NEED more than 48 dex.you should put the rest of the points into endurance, mind or strength instead of pumping dex
>>487352821THIS IS THE WRATH OF DEEH(he’s so cringe it’s hilarious)
Finally, it's done. Radahn is way harder than Malenia. Think Radahn is the hardest from boss.
>>487351598some dude tried to pull this shit off last week over at rellana's and im still surprised i managed to kill the guy... not sure what other countermeasures i can take besides killing them asap
>>487353331>The moon and flames have always been intertwined”Nta but this is what I got from a friend but yeah I agree that translation is bad.
>the abductor virgins open their wombs (full of hands) the same way metyr opens up her womb (full of fingers)Am I going schizo or am I onto something here?
>>487353482well you see bosses respawn in the lore so he could have killed anybody, especially godrick and renalla
>>487353616well the curved greatsword with the big stormcaller is str/fth so I thought it'd be good.. if I were to make a full fth build, I'd probably use better spells than the nado>>487353730it's only 28 fth and I wanna use crucible spells too because them and the hornsent are kinda similar in lore I think
How powerful even is the Tarnished by the end of the game? >He is gorged on Great Runes that caused "mad taint" in the demigods when they had just one>He defeated demigods, a god, the incarnation of order, other past elden lords, absorbed millions of runes>If you go for the Ranni ending, she implies you will live for an extraordinary amount of time, and I presume thats true for the rest of the endings tooIs he even human?
>>487354039you can jump to deny them their free damage when they sleep you, and i did think about doing that, but they can also just switch to bleed bolts for example and chunk you for a fuckton of health instead, and that's usually what happens if i don't end the fight quickly
>>487353986Because he never stop doing the most retarded combos.
>>487354148Those are snakes anon, not hands.
>>487354204>if I were to make a full fth build, I'd probably use better spells than the nadoThe nado is cool though.
>>487353986>Shield pokingTell me at least you used the deflective hardtear and guard counters
>>487354297>deflective hardtear and guard countersNo
sssh she sleepi
its kind of hilarious how just sprinting at someone and not attacking them makes them panic roll and gives you the perfect opportunity to roll catch
>>487354223Nobody knows. Vyke is right behind you and he’s… a gaol fight… LMAO BRAVO MIYAZAKI…I’m actually convinced that we can’t trust in game shit vs actual lore anymore, but for some reason people do, so…
>>487354223>is he even humanWell supposedly he's outright a demigod.>>487354297>pokingShield poking is specifically when you use a weapon that can attack while the guard is up. It doesn't count as shield poking if your weapon's attacks lower the guard.
>>487354396Something about this seems off model......
>>487354124I do take some issues with that. "Have always been" implies a longer connection extending into the past, which isn't supposed to be implied.If you want to keep that fanciful translation, I'd just change it to present tense>The moon and the flame are always intertwined hereAll of this is neither here nor there
>>487354223At this point no one can really stop you. Especially with it being implied you first tried every bosses second phase
>>487354396WOAH MILKIES
>>487353331Also, the sword of night and flame exists, so what the hell.
>>487354396i know giving every single female character ever big tits in fan art is retarded but i can't help really enjoying it
>>487353331>>487354124>>487354520So what you're saying is yumes fucking won and she CAN fix him?
>>487354489Those mosoleum demigods proper translation and not that shitty youtuber one implies the tarnished is one of marika's descendants a "dregs of the golden lineage" through godwyn. You're as much a demigod as godrick is.
>>487353986I thought Radahn was way easier than Malenia because it was really easy to just parry him to death.
>>487354520I see good to know. Do you have the jp text where it talks about her being a carian princess?
>>487351480What would Melina, Messmer, Miquella, Ranni and Marika's great rune do of they had one?
so Bloodfiend's Arm procs bleed on R2 even if it isn't blood infused? Getting mixed signals reading through the archives
>>487353986>Radahn is way harder than Malenia.I had a much harder time with Malenia, but then again Deflecting Hardtear wasn't a thing in base game.
>>487354456Now that you mention it, Vyke should have been a real fight. Maybe right before the Three Fingers area or something, he goes back there mad that his maiden is dead and wants to take revenge on them or something, I dont know.
>thought rannifags were annoying>now messmerfags are being just as annoying>with a fucking mooncoon they self insert withYou're on the kill list too now
>>487355050yes it does. but it's only the standing R2 so it's recommended to only use it on arcane builds that want to bleed or poison infuse it
I like how the player who can’t even do anime flips like the bosses actually gets to “beat” them lmao.I’m sorry, but no amount of infinite rez’ing is letting you beat literal anime tier shit; a stupid silly game with stupid silly logic.
>>487355050just test it in game
>>487355050Yea thought you'll still want to blood infuse the arm to increase the bleed buildup
>>487355150Damn everything just annoys you, huh.
>>487354752Well yes that's what I was saying.
>>487355150I fucking TOLD you that the dlc ruined the professionalism of the Carians. They’re a fucking meme (“lol they love redheads haha xd”) now and I hate it. “TWO BOOB TWO BOOB MUST FAP”, just fuck it. It’s already annoying with Rennala’s feet.
>>487355087Vyke should’ve been at least the size of a banished knight, not shaded red or blue (full color vyke) and been a full on miniboss with both lightning and frenzy powers. Would’ve been cool to learn about him leading up from liurnia to the sewers, then on the mountaintops. Imagine we head to the fire giant arena and instead of the fire giant we see Vyke standing over its corpse. At that point it’s a duel between the two most powerful tarnished on the brink of burning the erdtree.
>Out of everyone in the DLC, Ansbach was the only one that had the balls to say "wait a minute, this is bullshit and Miquella is a sick fuck, I'm not standing for this shit">Thioller sided against Miquella too but only because St. Trina told him to>Everyone else gets granted their freedom from the charm and decides to go back for some dumbfuck reason, including Hornsent only because you don't invite him to kill Messmer with you
>>487355150I'm not even Messmerfag I just like Carian ladies and the ship's cuteBut I will now post more of it to annoy you.>>487355575You're still seething about this?
>>487354731>The snakes are going to eat her out.
>invade some people on a Marika lookalike build>one of them is named Malenia>shenanigans I got murdered by a blue soon after, but so far playing a cosplay build has been super fun. Think I will make an Ansbach one next because I never played an Arcane build.
>>487354752Those silver tears and Nox were called descendants of Marika in the files I think.I think there’s some secret history From’s keeping hidden for the lulz / their own ass benefit
>>487355712>made an acolyte of st trina build before the dlc>now don't want to play it because st trina has been demistifyed
Rabbath Langdon hand forged this glintlock
>>487355819Godslayer Pistol
Hey elden sneed gen, I bought the DLC today after procrastinating a ton (got like 500 hours in the base game) and I was wondering how much INT stuff we got in the DLC?A good amount? I don't care if it's the epic meta or whatever I've done a full dragon incantation playthrough, I can handle it
>>487355575It's not JUST the carians. The dlc ruined every single faction. There's nothing interesting about the omen anymore they're just "lol they deserved it because hornsent" there's nothing interesting about malenia anymore because either "lol she was brainwashed" or "lol miquella never loved her" and don't get me started on how they fucked up miquella. No one got out of this okay, but the carians got out of it the least bad, any now cariansimps miyazaki as well won't shut the fuck up them and marikasimps just pollute any discussion about this game to revolve around them.
This is a weird npc summon. Why does Freyja need to fight a bear?
>>487356012I see birb
>>487356048feyja likes fighting
>>487355784I made a Moongrum copy I invaded the academy as for roughly 80 hours. Would hide in the room he is at as a painting and then jump out when they start fighting him. Had something like 500 rune arcs on him, I dont even know why this was so fun for me.
>>487356048She wants to be like Red Bear
I wish humans had 4 fully functioning arms. It would be so cool
>>487355575>>487356038I’m a bit sad that the Haligtree didn’t get resolved. It was all for nothing.
>>487356048there was a summon for that shit?
>>487354678Sword of Night and Flame and Rellana's swords are thematically not the same. >Astrologers, who preceded the sorcerers, established themselves in mountaintops that nearly touched the sky, and considered the Fire Giants their neighbors.That's Night and Flame. It links astrologers and their magic with the fires of the fire giants. As a result, it casts Night Comet(actually Comet Azur), a star-related spell, with regular fire spells.Rellana comes from the Carians, who use moon sorceries. There's a distinction made between Raya Lucarian sorcerers who study the stars and Carians who study the moons. Rellana's swords link the moon, with Messmer's flames. The fires her sword unleashes are Messmer fires. Also, another difference, arguably, is that Night and Flame is one sword. It isn't bringing fire and magic together, it is just both, but your milage may vary on how much you accept that.
>>487356012like almost zero INT build stuffit's fucking tragic>>487356171they do if you're good enough with your feet
>>487356012very little int stuff
>>487356335My new headcanon is the moon sword she uses is the sword she was planning to give to messmer if they ever married but we ruined it by killing them both.
>>487356430>>487356447No spells? No unique weapons? For real?I'm more interested in unique weapons, might just go INT/FTH then......
>>487356590there's one unique int weapon that's not badthere's some spells, and some of them are good. But int and faith both get much more.
>>487356012Glintstone Nail & Glintstone Nails, an upgraded Magic Glintblade spell, some Gravity Sorceries, and Fleeting Microcosm.
>>487356335Fucking kill yourself you pedantic faggot. Raya Lucarian and Carian sorceries both make use of glintstone, which is star shit.The Sword of Night and Flame is totally a thematic match to it. It’s sorcery and fire incant shit, together. Messmer is related to the fire giants (who are in some way related to the giant serpents too, what the hell) as well. Caria goes all the way back to the ancient astrologers.I also already knew every single fucking thing you wrote there. All I’m saying is it’s a partially disingenuous translation.
Marika did nothing wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoV-zvZhBM0
>>487353482It seems like the only tarnished that had a legitimate shot at becoming lord were You, Vyke, and Bernahl.At least it's explained why Vyke failed, but I wish they had elaborated more on Bernahl, who helps you against Godskin Duo, then a few moments later just invades you and dies without a single word, assuming you find him in the first place. What's up with that?
>>487356335>doesn’t notice how the carians lusting after redheads is linked to astrologers history with fire giants>doesn’t see how this links to radagon and renalla>doesn’t see how this links rellana to messmer>doesn’t see that this ultimately ties messmer to both radagon and the fire giantsHow do you not see the poetry? It literally rhymes.
>>487356590You get a funny looking jedi swordIts kinda ass though, also classified as a katanaOh and a rapier that can cast spells
It is funny that the Tarnished gets to have a happy married life with Ranni, after murdering both of her brothers, her father, her aunt, and even being the one to put down Blaidd. The Tarnished basically murdered everyone around her.
>>487356312Yeah for the northern bear. But the sign is by the two sleeping bears near the boss so if you get to close to them freyja starts fighting them and wakes them up. Also I did this before Miquellas rune breaks so I dont know if it disappears
>>487356590>>487356657I mean arc and faith
>>487356680That sounds interesting, the bubble and miner sorceries are my favorites so more melee stuff is good>>487356657Yeah I'll just split, oh well. Thanks
>>487356012>>487356680Oh, and Miriam's Vanishing.
As an INT player, what should my spell loadout look like? Aside from Carian Slicer and I guess Terra Magica?
>>487356590They added half as many sorceries as they did incantations and a lot of those sorceries also require faith in addition to intelligence, and two of them only require faith.
>>487356682Carian sorceries are not the same as the moon sorceries. There's really only 3 of them, and they don't even have a magical sigil.Also>mostly chill discussion about translations and lore>out of fucking nowhere starts insulting the other anonYou okay there dude?
>>487356682I like you. Wanna make out
>>487356335>It isn't bringing fire and magic togetherIt technically is, it’s just in one sword.
>>487356012we got carian sovereignty, and that's all that matters. int builds won well, maybe not the faggots standing in the back spamming comet, but the sword sorcery chads won.[/spoiler}https://youtu.be/2-Mh3HgbEDk?t=10s
>>487356682YIKES. Mad, much?
>>487356858Whatever you want, what are you trying to do, parse like an MMO?
>>487356896>Carian sorceries are not the same as the moon sorceriesThe moon sorceries, all of them, use the Carian crest, lol. Only Carians know the places where you can glimpse the moon. They’re more Carian than not.
>>487356732She didn't fucking deserve it.
>>487356590there were a couple of pretty lacklustre spells
>>487356809When you hear these stories about teens who murder their parents and try to run away together with nothing but a stolen car and $700, this is what they thought would happen
>>487356971Carian Sovereignty does hit hard, however SotE is a dragonfag DLC.
>>487356809accurate portayal of male courting behaviors
>>487356761Bernahl had fucking balls. Even after the Tarnished takes out Rykard, the fucking Lord of Blasphemy, he STILL tries to take you out in Farum Azula, lmao. Either this implies he’s capable of taking out Rykard himself, or he’s just an idiot.
>>487356858great glintstone shardcannon of haimagavel of haimanight sorceriesadula's moonblade or carian greatsword
>>487357109Fair enough, thought they didn't have a crest.
>>487356809Her father was a cuntOne brother had become a man eating snake monster that was barely Rykard anymore.One brother was gay.And Blaidd's MK Ultra programming kicked in and he would've tried to kill Ranni on sight.The only one that's not really warranted is killing Rellana.
>>487357292Imagine a threeway brawl at the forge of giants between you, bernhall and vyke. Would’ve been more compelling than a fire giant dps check.
qrd on the Wing of Astelt. noob
>>487351585Strong ash even if you completely disregard the status and interaction with poison.Also an easy and cheap way for any build to rot bosses, it's way easier to land and less fp consuming than rot breath, and has way more buildup than the Antspur.
>>487357292He has a legendary weapon which probably made him feel like he's hot shit. So he's just stupid.
This bugs me honestly, it looks so fucking gay
>>487356858a fast spell, a slow spell, a huge spell, a long ranged spell and a spell for when they're resistant to your regular spells
>>487356809Rykard and Radahn had both been "dead" a long time ago in truth Her father basically broke her mother's heart. I doubt Ranni gives a shit about him. Blaidd was the same as Rykard and Radahn. There was no choice there. And Rellana's honestly just a fucking oversight.The bigger thing that always irked me is that she never makes reference to us attacking her mother. That should have been a thing.
Lore wise who has the cutest feet [/,spoiler] I desperately need to know loreposters help me out
>>487357463press l2immediately press l2 againcontinue pressing l2 until everything in the vicinity is dead
>>487356012Int spells are shit, and Miyazaki has a major moon/femininity bias problem. He dumps us with lore saying the moon is a piece of crap compared to the rest of the universe, and then plops us with a ‘make a miniature universe’ spell that’s… 30 int less than… turning into moon boobs… it also ends with the guy who made the spell (who also taught Rellana btw) turn into some fucking finger/maternal obsessed tranny wizard, who is BARELY even a fight. If George wrote him as the magical superior of Rennala/Rellana, it is clear Miyazaki didn’t want us to see it that way.What the FUCK Miyazaki.
>>487356682Moon sorceries don't use glintstone. >Scholars of the Lazuli Conspectus study Carian sorceries - a heterodox pursuit that views the moon as equal to the stars.This is seen as a separate field.Also nothing about Sword of Night and Flame has to do with the moon. So even accepting your retarded premise, it's still wrong.
>>4873574632nd option for people who hate katanas and straight swords but play int and need a sword, free ranged projectiles
>>487357428Can't even say they don't have the tech for it since we had the Abyss Watchers in DS3.
>>487357414What happens when Radahn brings Miquella back to meet the family after they eloped?
when you guys make an invasion character, are you going all the way thru godfrey ghost for the last talisman pouch? I wanted to have a guy for Stormveil and a guy for Raya Lucaria but it seems like a lot of setup just to fuck with people
>>487357463The Aow and heavy (if you hit both projectile and attack) are outstanding at stance breaking
>>487356809Also her pet dragon. Adula was murdered too.
What are the best int/fai sorceries and incants added in the DLC?
>>487354947Melina: causing holy damage heals you by a small amountMessmer: reduces FTH requirement of fire incantations by 50%Ranni: damaging frostbitten enemies recovers a small amount of FPMarika: doubles healing effectiveness from incantations
>>487357115>be born as an oppressed minority>your people are literally butchered and shoved into jars by the people who subjugate them>despite that, work your way to the top and become respected in society>hatch a scheme to literally overturn the entire order of the world and become a God Queen>actually succeed>too late for your people, though, they are all dead>avenge them by destroying your oppressors>remove death, give people eternal life>through strategic marriages and military campaigns manage to unite the entire known world under your rule>unfortunately, all your children are fucked up, except for one>try your best to keep the realm together, shouldering all the responsibility with all the suffering that comes with it>you are starting to have doubts about life, it has been so long and you are getting tired>Ranni decides to be a Machiavellian cunt and kills your favorite child in a horrific way that deletes his soul and turns his body into a living tumor>fucking lose it and destroy the Elden Ring - fuck it, if people arent appreciative of what you have been through and what you have done, they can shove it>tell your children they can become lords or gods, or just be sacrifices for someone else - you dong give a fuck, figure it out, you are done with this shitMarika had a hard life.
>>487357920why so low level? don't you wanna invade the new dlc places?
>>487357721It's because miyazaki is a carian simp. Go read his interviews he's saidRadahn and rykard were his favorite bossesOne of his favorite npcs is ranniOne of his favorite remembrance bosses is rennalaThat's why he needed to add his new oc rellana to the dlc and why he had to make radahn the final boss because nips wouldn't shut the fuck up about fighting non rotted radahn.
>>487357676>The bigger thing that always irked me is that she never makes reference to us attacking her mother. That should have been a thing.I still really hate how the Rennala fight plays out. It doesn’t really make sense. I remember thinking it’d have a different cutscene if I joined Ranni sooner—but it didn’t. Is it a pre-recording? Would she not still know what happened?
>>487356851Melee Int only got an Ash of War, though it's an upgrade to Carian Grandeur. Technically also Rellana's Twin Moons but that is one of the worst DLC sorceries.Ranged Int got a lot more to play with. They're generally worse than the best DLC incantations, but miles better than most DLC incantations, and as usual can be mix-and-matched with the countless sorceries from the base game. The Glintstone Nails now give Int a ranged stance damage option that's a decent alternative to Ancient Death Rancor, Glintstone Nail is an alternative to various slow-but-homing spells, Fleeting Microcosm and Blades of Stone are good new AoE options (Fleeting Microcosm is better in my opinion), Miriam's Vanishing is the sorcery alternative to Quickstep (that said, it can work for both melee and ranged sorcerers as a result) and Magic Glintblade fires three Glintblades instead of the one.>>487358003Spectral Rings of Light. If you need a faster alternative to Ancient Death Rancor that doesn't home in as good, you will find no better spell than this one.
>>487356012About 13 new spells. A few new Ashes of Wars. Some are very cool.
>>487358034I honestly wonder what the fuck Ranni's problem was.
>>487357549yes that stat distribution offends me, move two points into something else from faith. you don't want more than 28 faith on an arcane build.You won't cast bayles spells without boosting at this rate so move some points back and forth.Honestly. arcane is barely functional at 150. You have to choose if you want to meet casting requirements or if you want to meet weapon requirements, it's hard to meet both under level 200 and still have nice poise and blue bars
>>487358003impenetrable thorns
>>487358003
>Oh? You just tried to heal after my 17th combo? Silly bitch, this is Elden Ring! You don't heal here!>youdied.wav
>>487358003As in INT/FTH specifically or INT and FTH as separate?I dunno about INT but FTH, Fire Serpent, Layered Discs and Knight's Lightning Spear are all peak spells. Messmer's Orb and Layered Disk are like a slightly lower tier imo.
>>487357829I wanted to play katana but I want some kind of magic going on, I don't care about casting spells myself though, and the moonveil looks kinda meh>>487357948Sounds fun, but I guess crit damage is shit from the blade right?>inb4 switch to miséricorde for the riposteI'm not THAT sweaty>>487357716That's the drawback, I dont want to play 100% magics, which is homo, but if I want to spam heavies for stance breaking I'm sure I can find something better than the Astel heavies right
>>487358062I could always invade Rellana's area for carian knight roleplay. I figured low level invasions would have less people with faggoty ashes of war
>>487358249That's just what women do when they are bored
>>487358249Judging by everything we see and know they had no animosity towards eachother, and marikas pre shattering bitterness is all directed at radagon. It's likely he did something that set ranni off and she blamed radagon instead of her. This story doesn't have many outright villains besides the hornsent, fell god, and flame of frenzy.
>>487357920all characters are pvp or coop characters, and I get the last talisman pouch on all of them except the have one at level 80 to host in lyendel and for that the shade must live.
Okay, my rumination has led me to this stream of thought:>dragons are a combination of serpent, lion, and bird.>The divine lion had the power of storms>The divine serpent had the power of flame>The divine bird had the power of gold>These three factions made up the crucible culture.>Placidusax is the pinnacle of the culture, having power over storms, flame, and the power of gold. Pretty rough sketch and I think I need to flesh out the divine bird a bit more. I think the fire giants represent the divine fiery serpent aspect, and the hornsent are representing the stormcalling lion. Need to figure out why the divine bird is associated with gold, and if it has other associations. But that’s all I’ve got for now. It’s slowly coming together though.
>>487358336>know enemy input reads>run away before healingWoah
>>487358249She didnt want to be controlled by an alien cult.The moons are also part of The Greater Will but at least there arent the fingers to watch over you like shepherds a flock
You can complete the Ranni's questline without fighting Margitt right?You just need Loretta, Radahn and Astel, or am I trippin balls
>>487358546>He says like as if every boss can't leap across the arena at you
>>487358361Yeah int/fth specifically. I've never really tried that build before
>>487357775>Moon sorceries don't use glintstone. Oh my fucking god, you people today are a mess with your lore. Yes, they fucking DO use glinstone, and they’re called ‘Carian blues’, and it’s also likely used in everything else they use.- ‘Magic scepter of Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon. The glintstone is known as a Carian Blue, enhancing full moon sorceries.’Can you retards stop thinking you know better than the assumed lore? That all sorcery is glinstone sorcery? Because it’s a fucking fact at this point. There’s purple glintstone (gravity sorceries) red glinstone (blood/lava sorceries), yellow/amber glinstone (death sorceries), and probably more out there we don’t know of yet. Even the green and blue aspects of blue-green/turquoise glinstone denotes different things.Why the FUCK are you so bad at critical lore theory? It’s like pretending Sellen isnt the one in the portrait, or that Sellen isn’t a fucking Carian. That’s her, and she is a Carian.
>>487358491I don't think the fire giants and the fell god are necessarily pure evil. Didn't Marika just go to war with them because they simply had the capability of burning the erdtree down?>>487358604Sure but she could've killed her fingers without the whole murdering-her-step-brother-for-no-good-reason thing.
>>487358675Correct, not every enemy canSometimes you need to put some obstacle between you and the enemy so they can't cast something like a blackflame ball at you
>>487358623You forgot Mimic Tear
>>487358604>The moons are also part of The Greater WillNah.
>>487358491Rot god doesnt seem too friendly either The Greater Will seems like the most benevolent Ayylmao
>>487357292My guess is he still intended on becoming Elden Lord so he could acquire the power to rebel against the Greater Will, and given that you were the only remaining viable contender for the throne, a duel between you two was inevitable. Shit isn't explained though so that's just my headcanon. At least he chose to help you with Godskin Duo first.
>>487358751Hey.Reminder that Radagon is a manchurian agent.Also Rennala is as good of a sorcerer as Azur and Lusat.You're still around about that one
>>487358283lol I don't know why I had 18 dex, I think it was for the straight sword marais before I can get the greatsword in shaded castle, I guess.Yeah this is rough.
>>487357721>>487358086I’ve actually long suspected that Miyazaki hates pure casters, low-key, and is a self absorbed martial-caster hybrid autist, for the most part. Magic sword! Magic sword!It’s why there are barely any pure wizard type bosses in his games, in fact. Or why he always cuts them out before release. He’d rather not make pure casters viable, and he makes this clear in Bloodborne.It’s incredibly obvious if you’ve played all of his games. Most caster enemies don’t actually get unique enemy models, they mostly reuse the player model.
>>487358872Yep. All celestial bodies are part of it, apparently. Those two are just the closest and exert the most influence. Considering celestial bodies can be alive in this universe, it makes sense why Rennala and Ranni seem to have connections to them and why Ranni’s teacher earned her of the dangers.
>>487358872Insert an argument that will shit up the thread neither of you learning anything or changing your minds
I only killed 4 bosses in order to get into the DLC. What do I do now?
>>487358843Not every boss is a golem, disingenuous faggot.
>>487359271Pure caster builds are typically the easiest way to play these games though.
>>487359319get the talisman pouches nigga
>>487359297>>487359308Again, nah. Makes no thematic sense for Ranni's ending. So nah.Themes and narrative > lore and item descriptions sorry.
>he levels to 150
How exactly do we know radahn agreed to the vow. Couldn't he have been "promised" and a vow between them made at some point by someone other than them, like, say, radagon?
>>487359065Do you just state wrong lore like it’s a fact to rile up the ‘um ackchyually’ autists?You’re still wrong regardless of how funny that is.
>>487359271Oh! And also reminder caster types would make no sense in Bloodborne and you're still wrong about that one too.Cope and seethe.
>>487359409Ranni doesn't know that the Moons are part of the Greater Will.
>>487359297He's trying to bait you. Don't fall for it. He doesn't care about lore.
>>487359478We don't know anything, it will always be speculation.....
>>487359592LOL are you the idiot who thinks Bloodborne is “low magic”? I can’t imagine living an existence, blind to shit in front of your face, because your bias is just that thick and gooey and, well, blinding.
>>487359409>the new lore contradicts my headcanonFTFY, not going to bother further Ranni hates the fingers in particular, not the greater will, find any place where she comments on it.
I think the only way to understand Miquella is by comparing him to Rhaegar Targaryen.
>>487351154nah arc is sick what the hell. arc builds are only bleed shit if thats what you go for. you get the ancient meteoric ore greatsword. poleblade of the bud. then stuff in the base game like marais executioner sword or regalia.
>>487359354I would never make such a retarded generalization, that's what YOU do >>487358675Stop whining about input reading. At some point you just have to play around it
>5+ minutes between invasions on a friday nightits so fucking over
>>487359271holy fuck how many times are you going to post this gay headcanon of yours?>>487359387this
I want to fuck and impregnate Marika. I want to cum in Marika. I want to inseminate Marika. I want to fertilize Marika. I want to creampie Marika. I want to make babies with Marika. I want to create offspring with Marika. I want to put a baby in Marika. I want to knock Marika up. I want to make Marika pregnant. I want Marika to bear my children. I want Marika to give birth to my progeny.
>>487359992It’s Tuesday
>>487359297>Those two are just the closest and exert the most influenceNo. Their whole schtick is that they aren’t all that involved. They don’t want to be a “god” to worship, like the Nox did, and it punished them for it, being a guide for a deluge of countless stars, beckoned by the creature they offended, by killing its offspring—that of Metyr’s two fingers. I know this because my cousin works as a translator in the English From.
>>487359910You can't play around input reading, faggot. That's the whole point of it. It's to literally fuck over the player. Take HACKazaki's dick out of your throat, he's not paying you to shill.
The carian sword sorceries should be the standard for magic going forward for both sorceries and miracles. We need more shit to do with magic at melee range.We also need the big flashy spells to be actually good and worth the FP investment but since Miyazaki will never fucking approve that, we should at least get the "usable at melee" stuff
Rate my drip from 2022 permafighting in the raya lucaria duel arena
>>487359409It does actually make thematic sense. Ranni if you read all of her dialog and motivations is anti-fingers she doesn't mention the greater will, only iji ever does, yet, unlike with blaidd or even seluvis she never repeats or says anything related to what iji does, meaning she likely doesn't agree. Her whole want for her order is to remove the elden ring and order from the planet and be a passive god in space allowing man to make their own decisions without some god telling them what to do. Nothing in what she does is ever anti-greater will, it was alluded to in the base game that there was something wrong with the fingers, and we now know what it is thanks to metyr. She still is a god, still has am elden lord, still has an order to keep, well, order, but she's just passive.
>>487359623>>487359808>the new lore contradicts my headcanonNew lore contradicts old lore, but basically yes and I stick to old lore.Sorry not sorry.>>487359690>he's trying to bait youNo. I'm stating my opinion that themes and narrative are more important than lore. It's more important that there's a thematic consistency to the Age of Stars being something entirely separate from the Golden Order, than it is for us to assume the Moon, whatever it may be, is part of the Golden Order.
>>487359992its chewsday, innit?
>>487359992Uhhhh the weekend is over dude
>>487360038>this gay headcanon of yours?He’s literally not wrong though. There’s only one true wizard boss in the game. None in the DLC. There’s only one unique wizard boss in DS3 too, and it’s reused. Why aren’t people allowed to point this shit out? Do you not like it? Why? You’re playing a game that’s already catered to martial types. Why are you so threatened?
>>487360147You are suffering from a serious case of being mad because bad>be me>keep getting hit because of input reading>start timing my healing between openers and by running away to heal>suddenly i get punished a lot less for healing>retarded shitter seethers claim this is impossibleWhiny little bitch
>>487359573>>487359779No. I'm just reminding you you're wrong that's all. Cope, seethe, shit, piss. And remain wrong.
>>487360147dodge 1 move where the boss has to recover and bam, you get your heal. just dont heal in neutral
What's a fun ash for the Pata? I really like them and want to use them but it seems like their only fucking options are:>Heavy with Flaming Strike>Poison with The Poison Flower Blooms Twice (not ideal since they lack innate bleed sadly)>Keen with Lifesteal Fist + Scholar's Armament (which is just PvP shit)Is there really nothing else cool you can do with them? I really don't want to just spam running R1s, I want a fun L2 too.
>>487360181>We also need the big flashy spells to be actually good and worth the FP investment but since Miyazaki will never fucking approve thatBecause it would invalidate martial anons who complain about it nonstop. All of the games are made for sword swingers, it’s why the spells the players use don’t look like the real thing the enemies/bosses use.
>>487358826She needed him dead so she could die in body and be free of the influence of the fingers by discarding her empyrean flesh
>>487360267If you admittedly ignore anything new and ignore what contradicts what you deem important it's headcanon. You arguing or denying what's said ingame in place of your headcanon and expecting anyone to give you attention is baiting.
Did they make saar builds viable in the dlc?
>>487360302im referring more to the whole "miyazaki hates wizards" shit. it is tried and trite
>>487360185who cares/10
At this point I’d love to see what George originally wrote, to see how much Mike Zaki went “no, fuck that, CHANGED” lol
>>487360526But why him specifically, why not mohg, or morgott, or one of the random ass demigods we see in the mosoleums pre mosoleum? The thing is that her targeting of godwyn was either 1. Intentional, if so, why?2. Happenstance which means she needed someone dead not him specifically
>Armor of divine bird warriors, the very first of all horned warriors, made from a golden metal. The golden-hued divine birds are known to be cruel, never taking to human companionship. Those who invoked their divinity were few and far between.Where else do we see or read about anything like this? I’m stumped.
>>487360252For starters, I am reticent to include anything in the DLC given how massively it's come to contradict other parts of the overall story.But even outside of that, the entire point of the Age of Starts is that it upends the current order, which is ultimately one of the Greater Will reigning supreme. The Moon becomes the primary power in it, it is separate.>>487360625Considering how badly the DLC's fucked up almost everything else, is it any wonder I am ignoring itBut regardless, I am not ignoring it necessarily. I'm merely saying that the keeping of thematic consistency of what the Age of Stars ending represents is more important. I am not saying that there isn't contradictory information.
>>487360147If you are performing an incredibly unsafe action while the boss is completely free to hit you, you deserve to get hit, whether there's input reading or not. Even if the bosses took 0.5 seconds to react, they should still be able to hit you with their fastest move.
>>487360652…Did you not just read what I typed? He doesn’t like wizards.For all of his love for the occult and other esoteric, folkloric things, he sure doesn’t like giving them stuff. I think he just likes the coating.
>>487360267Nah, new lore goes with old lore, but characters don't always know the true state of the world they're in.
>people arguing over “lore” without knowing anything Bout astrology, alchemy or occultism LMFAO
Is it even possible to dodge star shower?
>>487360854That contradictory information should be taken into account with a good way of explaining it away or incorporating it else what you are doing is simply going "no I don't like it humph"
>>487357721>>487358086>>487359271This is how I know the alleged ‘Spellbound’ game leak is fakeMiyazaki would never commit to a pure magic/caster type title lmao
>>48735942780 is such a shit level to invade for me.My 70 character keeps getting kino invasions in good areas, my 80 one keeps getting fogwalled and taunters.
>>487360147Lol you're getting btfo'd by these replies
>>487360974>astrology, alchemy or occultismsurface level visual elements, nothing more.
>>487360409I have LITERALLY run away from bosses to heal only for them to jump across the arena and smack me. I KNOW you have too. Stop fucking trolling, nigger.>>487360871Ah yes, because unlike literally every other game, healing after a boss finishes their 5 hit combo is a bad idea because the game literally cheats.
>>487360974Do you know anything about them? Do you even know what all of that is? Hint: It’s art/psychology
Do you ever run through a whole zone touching graces just because you know there's some really good character lighting in a particular spot?
>>487361325child
>>487360943Ranni was actually fairly accurate in her assessment of the situation.>>487361121>what you are doing is simply going "no I don't like it humph"Well to be fair, I never said I can do anything else. I can't explain it away. I have my own biases on this and other things.I dispute the Moon is part of the GW's order same way I dispute the GW is more than just another "outer god" (or at least, an entity similar to what we name to be the outer gods). But I am aware things contradict what I'm saying. Again I simply consider the thematic consistence more important, and it's far more thematically consistent if the GW and the Moon are two separate divinities for which we have two "orders" or "endings. There's all manner of duality of symbolism on top of it all as well.
>>487361328sex with runa
>>487361146>>487361268Go fuck your self. Miyazaki doesn’t hate wizards. The two most powerful character in the game are rocks you can’t kill, while the rock turtle pope you CAN kill. He’s made the most powerful faction too.
The tarnished is canonically a guy.
>>487360854>the greater will reigning supremeExcept that's not what the current order is, the current golden order is marika's, one she created by removing the rune of death. The base game tells us this. Each ending even the ones where you become her consort is starting a new age with an altered order. In rannis you fuck off with it. Every ending BUT fracture is a new or altered order. The greater will sent down the elden ring itself, no matter what's done it will always have a connection to it, it's the ring of the greater will. Taking it elsewhere doesn't change that. Any order made with or around that ring will be the "greater will's order".
>>487361479I dunno why you'd reply to me while saying literally nothing that's relevant to what I said.
your self
>>487361479>while the rock turtle pope you CAN killYou realize he teaches sorceries AND incantations, right? His entire shtick is the joining of everything. He does not lean FTH at all.
>>487361524he also canonically has a 12 inch cock
>>487360526If she was required to kill both a body and a soul for her plan to work, why did Godwyn specifically need to be the one to have his soul destroyed? She could've chosen someone who was like, I dunno, evil, instead of the nicest man in the lands between.
>>487360629We got urumi. We got katar. We got tulwar (scimitar). We got khanda (Marais sword). We got parashu (gargoyle greataxe). We got bhuj (sorta, I'm counting the celebrant's cleaver). We got gada (nox hammer). And now we got pata and chakrams (smithscript cirques)?We also got the Indian poisoned hand, poison flower blooms twice, and the putrescent cleaverWhoever in Fromsoft pitched this cornucopia of Indian weapons...you are powerful and loved.
>>487361303When i see a player who's better than me i get inspiredWhen you see a player who's better than you you get mad and think the game is cheating you and conspiring against youYou are an intellectually and emotionally under-developed shitter with a serious loser mentality and that's why you are trash
>>487361420What’s childish is not learning to hold such concepts like objects. Can you do that? You don’t need mind control powers to mind control people. It’s still being done. Man is dominated by art/stories, and the sorcerer is, quite simply/literally, the charlatan with sufficient presence. The modern wizard is the mad scientist poking at the unknown/“occult”.
>>487361627not true my dick is small
>>487360854>The DLC contradicts my headcanon so I'm ignoring it!Mature, level-headed response.
>>487361452the Greater Will doesnt have an Order you retard
>>487361452Then you're simply just saying "I don't agree because I don't like it" and your initial "nah" to anons post and this whole conversation serves little purpose.
>>487361579The variations on the base ending are basically altering the existing order yes.But Ranni's ending specifically is entirely different in it's approach. We don't even know if there is an elden ring anymore in that scenario. The elden ring is the manifesting of the rules of reality through an object. Considering divinity is no longer "on earth", perhaps that isn't even a thing anymore.
>>487361683Oof. Take that cringe out of my general
>>487361715why didn't you max out your silders?
>>487361479Can Azur or Lusat even do anything though?
>>487361524Type A for m(A)n.Type B for fem(B)oy.
put all my former arcane points into faith and finally am having great fun with flame art smithscript armaments shoutouts to the faith
fembale
>in an arena duel against a magic user>use the pillars as cover>they panic and freak out and don't know what to do when they realise spamming spells wont do fuck allA high more euphoric than heroine
>>487358249Considering she was written by GRRM originally?My bet is that she and Godwyn were engaged to strengthen ties between the demigod factions. Ranni, not liking Godwyn for whatever reason and wanting to be free of the Finger influence, decides to half-kill two problems with one dark ritual.Getting rid of an unwanted spouse and her flesh at the same type, ah hah hah! Isn't she so wise?Then Marika shatters the Elden Ring and Ranni realizes she didn't think this through enough.
>>487361790The GO is the GW's orderHeck, if we take the other side of this argument, all orders are the GW's orders because the GW is the true deity of the world. In which case the only way to manifest true change is burning it all.>>487361802All lore discussion eventually reaches a point where it serves little to no purpose.
>>487361750Yes, and he admitted that in his earlier responses. He just doesn't like it and thinks it doesn't fit, so he ignores it in his interpretation of the game as he believes it's thematically better if it weren't the case. Everyone does it to some extent. It's how this lore works and the exact reason why miyazaki said he makes it the way it is
The dlc did not contradict any of the lore from the base game.
Will we ever have another dlc? Dark souls had multiple dlcs right?
Where do you get carian slicer and catch flame again?Been over a year
>>487361919>Fem Baylecareful
>>487362054Brother in Christ the DLC is the size of DS1
>>487361993>true changeany change is true change, maybe you mean absolute change
>>487362054Sorry, anon. But fromsoft is never making another DLCs with these reviews
>>487361830Now you're going with what ifs when the answer is staring you in the face.
>>487358249Ranni's written to play the archetypical role of the one driven to defy their fate at all costs. There's nothing more to it.
>>487362054Ds1 and BB had 1, otherwise yeah all multiple
>>487362038This but unironically.
>>487362085>carian slicerRoyal House Scroll, camp east from Agheel Lake South with sorcerer hollows pelting you with spells from atop ruins.>catch flameCorhyn.
>>487361675I am better at this game than everyone in this thread. It is not a skill issue, it's a fucking design issue. ER bosses are DOGSHIT and no amount of "uh ur just bad lel" non-arguments will change that.
I want you guys to look into the eyes of these poor and misunderstood hornsent and say they deserve genocide, I dare you.
>>487361993>The GO is the GW's orderlmao
>>487362283I wasn't being ironic.
>>487362054Doubtful. Harder doesnt always mean more fun
>>487362309>I am better at this game than everyone in this threadNope. You can't even tackle basic issues such as input reading and you never will because you are dumb as fuck and you refuse to face the fact that you need to get better
>>487361993Yes actually, the actual issues aren't the orders at all. It's who's in charge, and thats the vassal god, it's something ranni and goldmask realized, ranni took the approach of letting man do for itself with a passive god, goldmask the approach of cutting out that vessel god bullshit and actually fully giving the greater will the reigns.
>>487362235Okay. I don't agree>>487362173If we assume the GW is the true deity, not just another divine entity like the Moon, or the Frenzy Flame, or the Rot God or every other mentioned one, then no change is true change because it is all within the purvey of said true deity. And thus, the only true change is the lord of chaos ending since in that ending, at least, everything just burns.And even then you could argue that's within the GW's design.
>>487361993The greater will is just one of many outer gods, and not the one true deity of this setting.
>>487361995Whether someone doesn't like the DLC's has no bearing on the authoritativeness of the its lore.Miyazaki already stated it was drawn up as part of Elden Ring's original story.Just act like a mature person and say you didn't like the story.
Magebros, would you like it if staffs doubled as usable melee weapons? Maybe not as good as a dedicated weapon, but good enough to bonk a bitch who got too cocky.
>>487362546It is the only deity that's deigned to show its hand(get it) in the Lands Between though.
>>487362309>I am better at this game than everyone in this threadYou're healing in neutral close to the boss so clearly not
>>487362532>the vassal godBut the issue here is that the "vassal god" is usual a person. Marika for the GO, Ranni for the Age of Stars. Miquella for the Age of Compassion. Malenia for an Age of Rot. Whatever else.The entities like the Moon, the Rot God, The Frenzy Flame, the Fell God, everything else. Those are different things entirely. If they are not things at a level with the GW, what are they.Also the GW getting the reigns just means nobody has the reigns since the GW hasn't given a fuck in a long time
Oops, uploaded the wrong file. Here's a sorcerer showing off some moves.
>>487362684Nope
>>487362684I think catalists are a dumb idea and you should be able to cast your spells regardless of what you're mainhanding and shit. All bosses get to cast spells while powerstancing shit why can't I
So is Impenetrable Thorns bugged or working as intended?
>>487362684I'm really sad that elden ring doesn't have a manus catalyst or demon's catalyst equivalent that actually does a lot of damage if you bonk people with it.
>>487362585I wonder how much of the lore of the DLC came from GRRM, he was always incredibly autistic about how dragons should have one pair of wings and one pair of legs, so maybe the multi-limbed ancient dragons opressing the drakes is some sort of meta storytelling from him.
>>487362684In DS2 that was almost viable I so recall, since buffing your catalyst made it do more damage on bonk, not just castsBut yeah I would
>>487362914>>487362684yeah there should be a casting talisman or something that you equip like a ring, and can cast with while holding weapons
>>487362832>The entities like the Moon, the Rot God, The Frenzy Flame, the Fell God, everything else. Those are different things entirely. If they are not things at a level with the GW, what are they.Different aspects of the Greater Will, maybe?
If you hardswap in PvP all that tells me is you're not good enough to beat me honestly and you need to resort to what you know is dishonest in order to win. Even if you kill me I know I still ultimately won.
>>487361840Imagine actually thinking magic is some specific thing, rather than a psychological angle, lmao, even Tolkien knew that. The ultimate black pill that /x/ refuses to swallow is that all magic is “magic”, and it’s the basis of all religion, period. It’s all art / the mind’s eye. Mankind is trapped in its own art for the most part, and even a great many past geniuses (the certified ‘wizards’) in history also believed in the likes of God, or other strange, occult, or just insane, unhealthy things. The mad scientists of their times were charlatans to themselves. Self-inflicted imaginations.Galileo? Thought he could read the future in the stars. Paracelsus? Started the idea of the homunculus. Isaac Newton? Was a fanboy for sacred Jewish geometry, even the philosopher’s stone.If you found an alien rock that gave you strange abilities, in whatever manner, and you are the only one to have it, to know of it, then you are free to spin it however you want, or make it look easier than it is. If it’s significant, sufficient enough, they’re forced to place their trust in you.Again, the sorcerer is the charlatan with sufficient presence. Sorcery is deception. “the more effortless the sorcery, the more men fear the sorcerer”But there is still, and always will be, some substance to the act. If mystery, wonder, horror, dissent, heresy, make magic, then ignorance is the greatest magic of all. It starts religions, and at its simplest you had the ancients looking to the stars in the night sky, considering them gods, no different from a black box, or a stage on a much grander scale. But don’t mind me, I’m just dropping you information I really shouldn’t be. I will be punished for it. You haven’t a clue. I’m a human, like you.
>>487362884>>487362684No. Magic doesn't deserve to be easy or fun. Also, it'd make double staff builds even more cancerous. On the other hand, it would be nice if magic got one over the incant builds, because my god there's really no reason to level INT when FTH is only slightly less damaging and longer to cast but can do so, so much more.
>>487360842Aha!>Battle axe designed to resemble a hawk, with its wings comprising the blade. Signature weapon of warriors who strive to remain one with the storm, despite being so far from their place of birth. Their hearts are proud, and thereby easily undone.>Thunderstorm: Imbue the armament's wing-blade with lightning and swing it around to create a tempestuous lightning storm. Follow up with an additional input to perform up to two spinning attacks. The lightning will stay on the blade for a while.>Ashes of a hawk revered by all others as sovereign back in the days when Stormveil's winds still raged like no other. This ancient monarch is proud however, refusing to answer anyone's summons.The divine bird represents the storm, and could summon golden lightning. The storm aspects ARE the divine bird aspects (the sky/heavens/greater heights). The divine lion represents strength and poise (Serosh). These aspects of bird and lion together are what we see in Enir Illim (strength, poise, and the heavens). But what of the divine serpent and its flame? Why was it cast out?
>>487362537That diety itself given all we know seemed to have fucked off or stop responding at some point, we don't know what it wants beyond order it's likely why it's fine with anything even a seeming age of rot considering malenia is an empyrean. To throw in my own headcanon, I believe it isn't an outer god, its a big G God, but not THE big G god, that goes to the one great, which the greater will is simply the most intact aspect of, the "lesser" aspects being the outer gods.
>>487362928it's not bugged, fromsoft just doesn't playtest thoroughly
>>487362884Wow, that looks really cool. Would love for staves to double as maces and hammers.
>>487362832>if they are beings not on the level of the greater will what are theyLesser gods. Many settings have a main god and lesser gods. Hell even tolkien technically has one.
>>487362585I never said otherwise on any of your points. Again the other anon explained it quite clearly.I don't like how the lore contradicts heavily on themes and characterization established in the base game so I am reticent to consider it valid, but more than that, I am not denying that the existence of the DLC does not contradict what I am saying. I am merely pointing out that the thematic interpretation for me is more important than those contradictions, so I am electing to ignore itAlso, the story is downright bad for several reasons and the biggest aren't even related to this discussion about the Moon and Ranni and the GW. Not that base ERs isn't either but lets not kid ourselves that "Radahn out of nowhere with the steel chair" isn't the dumbest and most out of nowhere plot point and final antagonist, or how is connection to Miquella had absolutely no implications of ever having existed until the DLC.
>>487361579Even Fracture is a new or altered order, because the Elden Ring isn't whole. Which means some laws of how the world works are essentially just excised from the new age.>>487361830Still a thing but in space. Ranni and you have essentially become a new Greater Will where the rules of the world are set but allowing for freedom for those left behind to decide for themselves what they should do.
Were Colossal Sword better in DS3? I feel like they were faster there
>>487363428>how the lore contradicts heavily on themes and characterization established in the base gameThey don't, that's your opinion.
>>487361840 >>487363123 (me)>Again, the sorcerer is the charlatan with sufficient presence. Sorcery is deception. Medieval priests compared demons to deceivers and charlatans on another tier from man, and look what Crowley saw.Whether you believe he was insane, or not, does not dispel the fact that he was on to the sort of logic they employed.
>>487363503yes, they also had better and more varied movesets
>>487363428>I don't like how the lore contradicts heavily on themes and characterization established in the base gameI don't think it does.
>>487363503Not really because no boss stagger systemThey were fine, lotsa damage, but same thing here, in ds1, ds2Big, big damage, but now they can also staggerSame shit at the end of the day, merely a playstyle choice
>winning a duel in the arena>opponent suddenly hardswaps to backhand blades and spams blind spotYeah sure you technically killed me but we both know who actually won
>>487363110That's a thought I suppose, but I would still defend it makes more sense to have them all be different divinities, or outer gods, or gods or whatever you wanna say.>>487363181The fact the GW left really isn't that important to me in this particular discussion. I'm more concerned with its nature as the originator of all things, or instead as just another deity like the others I named.
>>487363123Could you BE any more of a faggot?
>>487363123>>487363638Ah sweet a legit schizophrenic Fun read
Could someone on PC drop me a Sword Lance and, a Bloodfiend Arm, and maybe a Putrescent Cleaver too?I'm want to try STR/ARC but a lot of weapons that would be nice dual wielded are one-time drops.
>>487363773>but we both know who actually wonMe.
>summoned for putrescent knight>host dies before we even make it to the bottom
>>487363773So far this is the only new L2 I haven’t figured out how to get around yet. You can bait it and roll back, but they always have enough time to escape the punish.
>>487363836cheat engine
>>487363836str builds are for 2 handingdex is for dual wielding
>>487363123Who asked???
>>487360929you type like a redditor, so no.
>>487362832To preface this i dont care what the greater will is, but the issue with the wanting of outer gods to be so important is simply that they aren't. People like to think they're these lovecraftian otherworldly incomprehensible abominations, when in truth, from everything we're given, at the very best, they're a variant of the lovecraftian like beings fromsoft already tackled in the great ones of bloodborne, and like it or not those great ones aren't all that impressive. We know how fucking often the frenzy lords just crumble and fail and are too weak to do anything, we see the rot lake, the result in a non tarnished swordsman fucking up the rot goddesses true form, we're told how the fell god empowered the giants and they still got btfo. If the greater will is an outer god it's clearly the big kid at the table and has been in charge since the dragons' days.
>>487363808Could you entertain for a moment that psychology may be a lot more powerful than you think? The fact that I’m telling you this, to a random person, isn’t not significant. >>487363834Knowing a big something others don’t is indistinguishable from declaring war on them.
>>487363123The forbidden jew geometry...Oy gevalt...
>>487363773It’s sad how common this became since backhand blades were introduced. Half the time I just sigh and rev up the swift slash because the only way to make them stops seems to be to show them that you can do it too and you’ll hit harder than they will.
Alright which youtuber/streamer made a video about the divine beast tornado because that's all I see you fuckers use recently
>>487364012*whips you*Get the fuck outta here, nutjob
>>487363428The lore for the dlc given in relation to the moons doesn't contradict what we're given in the base game and adds more justification for her actions given what we know of metyrThe new lore doesn't contradict what we're told about marika in the base game and gives new justification based on what we know about the hornsent and fellgod
>>487363836i could drop you my bloodfiend arm, i dont have the other 2 yet on my current character. but let me know if you're interested. where do you want to meet?
Uh why is Romina guarding the sealing tree?
>>487363940I know that pain, I even equip shabriri's woe because I know how retarded and vigor-adverse hosts are but it doesn't mean shit all of if the host dies before I can even manage to get a single r1 on the boss.
>>487363954Use raging beast on beast claws, it’s basically the counter to backhand blade bullshit as long as you’ve accepted the fact that you’re going to be whittling them down rather than trading.
>>487364149I don’t understand. Make belief controls the masses. Media power is terrifying.The ability to think critically will be the sole saving grace of this century. Men cannot get pregnant.
>messmer's ember is literally just recolored human dreg
>>487364305Crossover universes is canon
>>487364305LITERALLY
>>487364225I don't think she is, I think she just lives in the church of the bud and the sealing tree just happens to be beyond it.
>>487364279>The ability to think critically will be the sole saving grace of this centuryFunny coming from a schizo. Now get the fuck outta my general
>>487364215That's already great.Church of Elleh, Limgrave.Password erg
>>487364050Newton was a legit heretic. He rejected the Trinity in private. All the great thinkers are divergent. Safe science is stifling, and a Jew even called Neil deGrasse Tyson on it. “You’re not a real physicist you’re just a physics relayer who’s top notch at it. You will not entertain the impossible. You will not go beyond your limits. That’s not science.”
>>487363608>>487363701Really?Lets list it>Miquella goes from a well intentioned person trying to primarily cure his sister as the main motivation who maybe or maybe not puts charms on people to outright confirmed being a mind controlling pragmatism, who calls his sister his "loyal blade" without any familial affection and only seems to care in any capacity for the brother he was never having shown to have even talked to, who he may or may not also be mind controlling.>Malenia goes from a skilled and disciplined warrior who when pushed to the brink unleashed powers she never should have done, but did it all in defense of her brother, to basically her brother's executioner in an attempt to force her half brother into a marriage.>Radahn goes from a warmongering but ultimately noble leader and great warrior to at best a victim, and at worst a LARPer that willingly had the region of the town he before seemed to be protecting nuked in scarlet rot all to appease his need for a "good death"Then outside of that>The fact the DLC is entirely self contained and has no impact on the outside narrative, nor does anything impact the inner narrative of it>Nobody comments from either side on things that happen to the other side.>Most of the things in the DLC are not in any way implied to have been a thing before the conception of the DLCThe only things that were properly alluded to were, funny enough given where this conversation started, the fact the Fingers were shady.
>>487363773I'm not an arena guy, so tell me, what is so bad about blindspot exactly? I know it got nerfed in the recent patch but its still supposed be insanely strong. QRD pls
>>487364225She just wanted a spot with a good view
>>487361993GO is Marika's order, helped along by Metyr. The Greater Will sent the Elden Beast to set the new world order in stone, but stopped influencing the world after that, letting it's creations do what they deemed where the best course of action.>>487362546It's the one true creator God as it created the world and everything in it after it was created from the One Great. The Moons, the Twin Bird, the Rot God, the Formless Mother, they all most certainly owe their creation to the Greater Will. The only thing it did not create was the Frenzied Flame which is it's equal and opposite.
>>487363805It matters if you claim it's the head of the order, by not being there it cannot be. It being a creator diety doesn't contradict what we learn and explains certain things in the base game like why outergods need empyreans chosen by the fingers/greater will depending who you believe is in charge in that aspect, or why the flame of frenzy needs for you to kill marika before everything can be burned, either destroying or buring the elden ring, or why sticking yourself with the needle that rids outer god influence doesn't get rid of your grace of gold.
>Is the best sword in the game in your path
>>487364580View of what
>>487362516>>487362826Both of you are shit, hence why you can't see the issue with input reading. You probably died 10+ times to easy bosses like Bayle and desperately need to reclaim what little dignity you have.
>>487364516This is all headcanon btw.
To the anon that suggested I throw two hand talisman on for my flame spear kgs, you’re a real one. The amount of damage I’ve been doing to people is absolutely retarded
>>487364201The issue isn't with her justifications, the issue is with the nature of the order she createsIf her order is still within the purvey of the GW and not whatever the Moon is, can it be said to be any different in truth, when speaking thematically of the story?
>>487364201The new lore sadly dilutes the mother and daughter charm or dynamic of the two moons, and whether or not it was the same moon, or two. A moon has a full as well as a dark side to it. Yes, I know you can see two moons at the moonlit altar, b that was left beautifully vague, and open to mystery, *which is what the spell even says*.
>>487364547It's as fast as a straight sword r1, has the hitbox of a greatsword, the recovery of a thrusting sword, and does the damage of a colossal sword
I can’t beat radahn. got a sorcerer build using carian slicer so no poise damage, and I’ve died like 100 times. I’ve watched every video on YouTube of people no hitting it and I just can’t pull off the dodges in the second phase, I just die immediately every time. Closest I’ve ever gotten is half health, when he starts teleporting around and spamming aoes, I’m completely lost, I can watch people do it all day and not get any better myselfthis might be it, this might be the one boss I finally can’t beat. Been going at it for at least an hour today, went at it an hour yesterday, I don’t feel like I’m getting any betterIt’s a weird feeling, I might have to just give up at this point, genuinely feels like it’s just a level of skill I’ll never reach.
>>487364645I made a stupid mistake to start a new game plus without fetching it>>487364664View of this*unzips dick*
>>487364516We're talking about moonshit not the dlc as a whole. Stay on topic.Also it's sad malenia is reduced to Chris redfield memes and radahn will only be remembered at miquella's personal dildo/cumdump. I'm happy it wasn't godwyn he remains the only objectively good demigod
>>487363147Technically, it always has one over Faith because hoo boy do the various Faith schools go in their own little lanes a bit too much.
I want them to go more traditional magic spells. death spells were so lame. I want to cast a bolt of darkness. I miss the Dark, Abyss, Deep.
>>487364593>GO is Marika's order, helped along by Metyr. The Greater Will sent the Elden Beast to set the new world order in stoneSo the GO is the GW's order then? You've just said it is with extra steps.
>>487359992Holy shit, get a job
>>487364547You basically can’t block it, or jump it. You have to roll out of it or hyperarmor attack and trade. But there is no cool down so they just spam it over and over until someone wins. They aren’t actually engaging in the game other than pressing L2 in a high-probability bet that they’ll win the trade.
The thing that really stops me from using Greatshields, and shields in general, isn't the cheese it's how your character holds them. I hate they don't actually cover themselves.
>>487364672Cope!
>>487364831I wish we got eclipse themed sorceries, or blood moon themed sorceries, or just crescent moon sorceries.Instead, we got boob moons…
>>487364672>he doesn't struggle with input reading so he must be badThe cope has reached a new level of irrationality
>>487364486I just got some sort of weird message about inappropriate activity, so I guess I can't play online right now.
>>487364598>by not being there it cannot beI see what you're saying, but the biggest issue is that the only example we do have is the GO itself.We don't know what might happen in any other potential example. Maybe the Moon fucks off too if it becomes the "GW". Maybe the Rot God fucks off as well.We know at least the Fell God seemed to be active enough to bless his followers. Perhaps still is given how the second phase of fire giant goes.
>>487364763>got a sorcerer build using carian slicerThen... change?
>>487364712Yes actually, because the biggest issue with the old order at least as said ingame, was how much the god was involved in it, leading mankind, genociding groups justified or not, making everyone go to her faith, and being blindly faithful herself in it during the early days. That's the difference. Order is upkept but a god isn't hands on this time, mankind can make its own mistakes >>487364750I've agreed with you about this a month ago. You don't need to repeat yourself.
>>487364798>We're talking about moonshit not the dlc as a whole. Stay on topic.Fair enough. I apologize. In that sense then, the DLC didn't actually directly contradict anything about Ranni's motivations and characterization.As I said this is less about that for me and more what the Age of Stars ending represents thematically. Something entirely different from the existing Order, which again is an order of the GW. The AoS would be an order of the Moon in that sense.
>>487364712The greater will can be compared to space itself, so it may be irrelevant if the moon is its “child”, when it may be a child the same way stars are children of the Big Bang. I don’t think Metyr was ever truly meant to communicate with it.
>>487364904>>487364926>I have no cope and I must sneedOof, struck a nerve, huh? How many times did you trashcans die?
>>487365120>Yes actually, because the biggest issue with the old order at least as said ingame, was how much the god was involved in itBut then that is addressed by the various Elden Lord endings and their variations, most notably GoldmasksAge of Stars is set entirely differently and presented as such. You can just blame Miyazaki's bias for Ranni on that, but then what we got is what we got.
>>487364810Sorceries do slightly more raw damage and are generally faster to cast. Magic damage is also less resisted than fire and holy, and what enemies who do resist it are usually pretty weak anyways. Conversely, very, very few things are actually weak to magic, so magic can't exploit weaknesses anywhere near as well as FTH. Magic has one of the best damage types in the game in the form of frost however (second only to bleed in my mind). They also get Dark Moon Great Sword, which is one of the best weapons in ER.
>>487364516Your first point about Miquella, the base game already showed he's attempted different ways to introduce a better order.They all failed, so Miquella's took an extreme measure in the DLC to achieve godhood and usher in a kinder world.He needed a strong Lord to enforce this new order, the player's disruption proves it.The previous ushing of a new order all precipitated a battle against opposing forces.Your second point, FromSoftware didn't want to spend the effort rehiring all those voice actors to acknowledge the interactions with the DLC.Miyazaki is famously sensitive about meeting deadlines and he's cut a full game's worth of content by now to achieve those milestones.
>>487361750This is the truth. Fallible developers, writers and artists often fail to encapsulate what they're channeling. There is a gross incongruence with the DLC and the base game lore, and I would say the base game lore itself is not exempted from it's own incongruences. As the game files confirm, Miquella's ending was taken out at some point in development, and Mohg was moved with his moveset updated to pervert the original story.Most will not be apt to admit it, but Elden Ring was intended to be told as a pederastrous romance epic between an immortal hero and the fairylike cherubim Miquella. Their marriage represents a resolution to spiritual conflict within the setting and our own world. A conjoining of the Anima and Animus in perfect harmony, exempted from the incompleteness of the woman who is yet undeveloped in her spiritual journey.As it stands, only those with strong spiritual intuition can perceive this given the targeted falsifications at play, and the egoic fixations on same-sex coupling along with the repulsion against immature romance.It's troubling to consider that the gifted ones at From were not only responsible for this tainted art, but will likely never render the work in it's due authenticity. But nonetheless, I am grateful for the opportunity to integrate such a potent catalyst for betterment.
>>487357964Adula swung first. That was self-defense.
>>487364982No problem.
>>487365120>You don't need to repeat yourselfI will continue bringing it up since time is impossible to reverse
>>487364712Goldnig doesnt give a fuckThe moon takes the reigns but the moon doesnt do anything, it just sits there not interacting, it's effectively a null order
What the fuck is that shield that people throw and it hits you after a delay? Everyone in PvP seems to use it. Even if you dodge behind the person throwing it the projectile will still magically curve through space and time to hit you.
>>487365030The only confirmed outergod that does shit itself as you said is the fellgod, and if it wouldn't go anywhere it's unlikely the others would either. Especially since, again, there's no indication the greater will is and outergod or not, and the unalloyed needle doesn't impact someone(us) who's empowered by, as you call it, its order. By your own logic and what we see ingame it likely isn't an outer god or one of significantly higher caliber than the others
>>487365316>has no argument>gets btfo>goes all-in on trollingLol. You're really bad at this
>>487365446The smithscript one?
>>487357964>>487365403Adula wasn't even a pet. Dragons are intelligent and it explicitly states Adula swore a "knightly oath" to Ranni after being bested by her.
All I know is the Metyr Remembrance sucks and we should have got more 70+ int spells that are *actually good*’and not something you can easily prevent
>>487365396All your opinions. The DLC story was already cooked alongside the base game's.You shouldn't feel this strongly against the DLC story considering how unremarkable the base game lore was.
>>487365596>Dragons are intelligentWhy do they keep committing suicide by me
>>487365584I dunno all I know is it feels like bullshit
Why do people still think that Miquella is mind controlling Radahn?He discarded his great rune and released everyone from his charm. This happens before the final boss fight. Radahn was never charmed. He was revived and agrees willingly to go along with Miquella's plan.
how are the remembrances "hewn into the scadutree"? who's doing that and why?
>>487365240Specifically it's said it stopped communicating, not that it never communicated.>The greater will can be compared to space itself. And again to me that makes no sense thematically.>>487365395That still doesn't excuse the fact Miquella is not characterized similarly in the DLC and in the base game. Again the point I most stick with is what he refers to Malenia as. That stuck with me as terrible inconsistent with what we know of him. Even assuming the divestment of his "love" mind you.And if Miyazaki couldn't deliver properly maybe he should have not done it at all.
>487365396filter'd
I really, really think Martin’s vision of the story would be radically different from the game or world we got. But also not much different, either.
>>487365669Black people rarely commit suicideAsians often commit suicideJust saying
>>487365761I did it
Are there any builds that don't revolve around twisting my balls and spamming buffs for 30 seconds before walking through a fog gate? I just want to play the game. I fucking hate buffs. I hate knowing that they exist and that by choosing to not use them I am giving away free DPS.
>>487365743He can recharm once he goes god mode.He can charm you for example.
>>487365040I genuinely can’t think of any damage output I have that’s higher, it’s what I’ve had the most success with.The problem is I can’t dodge the attacks, like mechanically I don’t have the reflexes for it, it’s beyond my physical abilities
>>487365768*frantically scrolls up*Phew. It wasn't my post
>>487365478The only one getting btfo is you by a piss easy boss like Bayle, lmfao. Don't reply to me again, shitter.
So fucking kino.
>>487365669Same reason all the other bosses do including human ones, you look like a bitch.
>>487365861why did you do it?
>>487365891You dont have to buff
>>487365765>That still doesn't excuse the fact Miquella is not characterized similarly in the DLC and in the base gameIt's called character development.Miquella's failed to cure his sister Malenia or provide a dignified death to his brother Godwyn.He's probably near the verge of a breakdown for fear of losing more loved ones.Miquella's desperate enough to abandon most of his being in the DLC to usher in a gentler world.
>>487365918>He can charm you for example.It's not a magic charm, the tarnished is just canonically weak to sexual advances from cute boys.
>>487365743>Radahn was never charmed. He was revived and agrees willingly to go along with Miquella's plan.Source? Because when he grabs you and kills you with his homolust, he clearly puts you under his rapenosis. Just because the rune shattered and his 50000 feet away hypnosis wore off doesn't mean he isn't directly puppeting the Radman.
>>487365743Maybe because Malenia had to forcefully drag Radahn to the Shadow Realm to fulfil his promise. Let's not pretend like shit wasn't retconned, it obviously was.
>>487365891Faith.Just rot breath every boss and then fight it normally.
>>487365963>Doesn't hit the 51 poise thresholdAnd yet it's worthless as a full set. May as well have 0 poise.
>>487365469>The only confirmed outergod that does shit itself as you said is the fellgodActually if we want to be pedantic about it, the fell god is never called an outer godThe only entities that are referred to as outer gods are the rot god and the twinbird. And you can through logical deduction safely assume the frenzy flame must be one, since the needle that purges their influence works on it.Fell God, the Moon and the GW are never stated to be outer gods.
>>487365765>And again to me that makes no sense thematically.Why? You realize physicists today are postulating that space could be the small (impossibly small) happenings of some larger than life organism. It may not even be aware of the life that goes on within it, the same way man never knew of the life that went on within themselves, of many layers and levels, continuing. The term ‘blind idiot god’ follows. Something godly enough to the point where it cannot truly comprehend things smaller than it.None of this is out of theme. What kind of “communication” did Metyr receive? Food for thought.
>>487365937Get shieldpilled and use summons
>>487364005If we're doing tiers, then it's basically:>Primordial Soup TierThe One Great>Top GodGreater Will>Top God's Opposite and EqualFrenzied Flame>Lesser GodsElden BeastMetyrThe MoonsTwinbirdFell GodRot GodFormless Mother>Vassal GodsMarikaRanni (if you do her ending)Miquella (competing potential vassal god)>>487364854GO is only GW's order insomuch that it recognized that an order to govern the world had been put into place and created the Elden Beast to make sure that order would be preserved for as long as people were willing to follow that order.>>487365384They also have the Full Moon spells which inflict a debuff against magic and a spell to buff magic damage. You'd have to be able to equip weapons/use spirit ashes and possibly a spell in order to achieve the same thing with the other elements compared to simply using the right sorceries for magic.
>>487364645Only time I switched off it was to fight Messmar since he's resistant to fire
>>487365953Did you seriously join in on an argument just to get btfo and then beg me not to destroy you with another reply?
>>487366072>FaithThe entire point of faith is taking buffs. You're even more retarded if you invest in faith and don't use them. At least a Str or Int gouge can justify no buffs because they don't have the faith to use them at all.
>>487365628Consider, if you will, that the remarkability of Elden Ring's story is not one that can be perceived at a cursory glance, or even many. The spirit of the observer must be pointed at understanding it's heart, what it wants to teach, and how it wishes to be seen.Look with an open heart and see mirrors of our own world within that dreamscape. The value will be found therein.
>>487366219Even then you can use it against him just fine. It handles other infusions wonderfully. I beat him with it without issue.
>um, ackchyually, it’s not an outer god, as it doesn’t say it, word for word, y’know Holy shit you guys are stupid. Outer is a literal meaning. It’s outside. >>487366139The fell god FELL. It not being sourced to the Lands is precisely ‘outer’.Words matter.
>>487364645>no innate bleedDumpster material
So to throw my two cents in the input reading debate, I’ll just say that anyone complaining about input reading is kinda retarded. Think about it. When you play pvp with another real human being, you obviously can’t input read the other player. You have to watch and react to the animation of the other player. How is a pve enemy supposed to do that? Fromsoft even designed their enemies to delay their input reading so that they can only react to the animation, not the input. So it’s input reading with a delay, in order to simulate the animation reading of playing an actual human being. When godskin apostle fucks your chug up, he’s reacting to your animation, not your input. If you can’t see how this is a step forward from mindless npc behavior, then you should stop playing elden ring and go pick up a copy of animal crossing or something.
>>487366223But you haven't done anything except get assblasted? Are you okay?
I think Elden Ring has the most interesting lore of any fromsoft game.Maybe Bloodborne has better lore though, I wouldn't know because>ps4
>>487366026My issue is not the fact he failed my issue is the utter lack of coherency in the things he cared about. And if that's the case and he was so desperate, it would have been nice to SEE it more. Which is another failure of the narrative.>>487366164Then again it comes to my ultimate issue, which is seeing the GW as a larger entity than the other "gods".Again I should stress, MY issue. In that sense it isn't the game's issue.
>>487366184>a spell to buff magic damage.Terra Magica is pretty bad outside of setting up a sniper nest for Loretta's spells. Try to use that thing in 95% of boss battles and you're toast. FTH gets buffs for fire and lightning damage that buffs slightly less, but lasts a minute and doesn't constrain you to a tiny area of the battlefield if you want to use it.
Is Leda's Sword any good in PvE? It's the deciding factor between me doing Dex/Fai or just pure Fai
>>487364645>got cucked out of its 2-hit comboCouldn't be me(lol).
>>487366475Its okHumanity meets ayyliums and starts fucking around and ayyliums fuck backIts definetly kinda cool
>>487351585I wanted to proc the talisman, use the duration and then use PFBT to reset, but stuff dies before I can rot it a second time.
>>487366409>The fell god FELL. It not being sourced to the Lands is precisely ‘outer’.Fell as in evil, not as in "fell down"Also outer can mean outside the ORDER, not outside the world. Were it outside the world, then the GW is outer.
>>487365803It would just be family drama with big trees. Basically his usual story with a Tolkien coat of paint.
>>487366531I've used Terra Magica alongside Ranni's Dark Moon and Ancient Death Rancor to take care of Malenia. You just need to create openings to get out some brief Terra Magica-boosted spells.
>>487366412Doesn't need it. Just use blood infusion and it's fucking amazing. Way better than it would be on shitty occult with innate bleed.
>hostcels getting absolutely BTFO by redgods>AGAINBASED!
>>487366475Elden Ring has the most interesting lore, but it’s partially tainted by the following:1. Coomerism2. Absurd character acts 3. Inconsistent game-to-lore4. Miyazaki bias/favoritism 5. Balance/pvp6. The community 7. Uber femininity 8. Denial of all of the above (this overlaps with 6)
https://x.com/justausername3d/status/1815879785958236375
>>487366541it's fineit's really just a dex weapon with a faith requirement, there's a number of weapons like that which mostly scale with dex but require ~20 faith. You wouldn't be wasting a lot of levels by having that much faith and using a few of those weapons
>>487366449You really need that to be true, don't you? Facing the fact would that i just bent you over and clapped your cheeks raw would just be too devastating to your ego
>>487366289You need to interpret the story of games directed by Miyazaki through his lens.He's a very pragmatic game developer who prioritizes adding interesting enemies, equipment, spells, and environments.The story is then fleshed out afterward to justify their inclusion.He's basically telling a bedtime story to make money out of a fun pop-up book.
>>487365192And that's the only part we disagree with in truth. Whether it fits thematically. Which I believe it does>>487365365I said that before as well
>>487366765>spams rot potYou didn't beat the host.
>>487366413Input reading is down to how fast the enemy reacts to the input and also how it reacts.It isn't just an issue when it fucks you over. For example having an enemy reply to the input as you press L1 means it can't EVER adequately dodge something like carian glintblade/glintrioThat's also an issue. It isn't just about what fucks you over.Obviously the issue is about striking a balance.
>>487366118blame FS for making poise all retarded-like
>>487364645>this with flame skewer
>>487366513>lack of coherencyThe game's led by Miyazaki, who deliberately leaves story/characterization gaps.
>>487366761Malenia is one of the few bosses who it works on because she's reactive. She'll usually hang back and wait for you to make a move and then retaliate.
>>487366920Wow that's a lot of cum!
>>487366767>1. Coomerism>7. Uber femininityThese are good things.
>>487366765Redchads finna boutta be rizzin up hostchuds if you know what I mean
>>487353139same dude, fuck the hornsent
>>487366412Literally no UGS has innate bleed you stupid shitter.
>>487366531Terra Magica is an amazing spell idiot>>487366684It’s pretty clear that the fell god fell, since the giants borrowed power from its fall, or something like that, said in the game. It’s a dying, waned god.
>>487365891>I fucking hate buffs.why?Golden Vow + Flame Grant me Strenght is like 2 seconds of buffing and all you need.
I mean this as unironically as possible: if you hardswap in the arena you are dogshit. If you're not capable of winning with the weapon you planned on playing with in the first place you are straight up bad.
>>487366808I get that. So I guess ultimately all I can say is "nah", because really I don't got much else anon.
>>487364230>Using Shabriri's woeBig mistake, just use the graveduelist helm
>>487366989Makes sense since the bitch is blind
>>487367064>Terra Magica is an amazing spell idiotFor oneshot Azure meme builds against Mohg.
>>487367107Nuh uhI won
>>487367021Based outfit, I've been wearing the same but with the goldmask rags and zamor legwraps.
Where do these parasitic cunts get their ego?
Elden Ring’s lore is impossible to take seriously, and yet I take it seriously. Too seriously.I fucking hate Miyazaki.>>487367184I melted Rellana on my first try spamming Comet with ash summon as tank.
>>487366568>regular greatswordEnjoy your trash AR and inferior poise damage lol
>>487367191that's the thing, they don't win. I see that they're trying to hardswap and I just throw a projectile at them. They're literally hurting themselves.
>>487366513>Then again it comes to my ultimate issue, which is seeing the GW as a larger entity than the other "gods".It's a larger entity than the other Gods because it cannot be killed and lets it's creations decide how to go about things. Only it's creations can be.In the same way that the Frenzied Flame cannot be snuffed out. Make a person or community wish for extinction long enough and it's back to exert it's influence once more.In fact, I'm going to go on a limb and say that the Moon gods is actually the Greater Will guiding those that pursue things intellectually instead of divine communion and the Carians mistook the Greater Will's guidance for the Moons themselves.
>>487367262They've got an audience that sucks their cocks all the time.
>>487367272>ash summonThat's why. Terra Magica becomes insanely good if you have something else drawing aggro. I was assuming for solo play.
yeah I don’t think I’ll ever be good enough to beat radahn. this might be the first boss in these games I’ll simply never have the skill to beat. It has to be over 100 tries by now, I’m not sure if it’s healthy to keep trying anymore. Feels like insanity, I’m not getting any better. If anything I’m getting worse
>>487366139Other anon isn't me, but the scarlet rot god is one, we know because the needle affects it the twinbird one is as well You're right about the fell god however i made a mistake my bad. In general I've never liked the blanket term the fans use for gods, there's various with varying powers and degrees of importance.
>>487367064That's another meaning for "fell" in the sense of "fallen from grace" or "fallen from power" not "fallen from outside the word/the stars" that would be required to infer it's "outer"Also where are you getting it's a fallen god? I can't recall anything of the sort said about it.
>Putrescent Knight hits the host once for 443 damage killing him from 100% hp.
>>487367262I don’t know. For all my complaints of the game, I still want to *know* the artistic direction of the artist(s), and shit like that just doesn’t fly in regards to it.At least until AI reaches a stupidly overly sophisticated point and everyone can ‘fix’ their favorite games in an hour, using bot wife as their tool.
>>487358318Nice, this ends up catching people way more often than I wouldve expected
>>487367480Allowing summoned phantoms carrying retards through Mohg was a fucking mistake.
>>487366806You still won't say how many times you got spanked by Bayle. It's okay buddy, we all suck at first.
>>487367378> I was assuming for solo play.If you’re a pure caster, playing without a summon isn’t thematically appropriate. It makes no sense. Unless you think cloth wearers are meant to constantly roll and get up into knights faces.
>>487367441The outer god term is weird as fuck and the fact it it's applied so selectively, despite definitions we can glean from the wording used, makes it weirder.There is no reason the Moon, the Fell God and such shouldn't be named Outer Gods.
>>487365365>it's entirely different and presented as such. That's entirely miyazaki's bias. We know because each ending was meant to have a special cutscene and more in depth quest but they, especially the empyrean twins, were cut and only ranni's stayed, because miyazaki's teachers pet faction are the carians and not even in a good way as that one anon keeps pointing out.
>>487351585The animation is zesty as fuck ngl, for type Bs only.
>>487366513>My issue is not the fact he failed my issue is the utter lack of coherency in the things he cared about. And if that's the case and he was so desperate, it would have been nice to SEE it more.Did you miss all of Miquella's crosses? He's literally throwing away parts of his physical and mental properties.That's a sign of desperation and these acts are supposed to raise the question of whether the Miquella ascended to godhood even qualifies as himself anymore.
>>487367480I literally had a host try to get us to follow him through the fog gate, not realizing he had to jump off and enter the boss arena first. We legit waited for a while, pointing and rolling at the fog gate to communicate that we couldn’t go any further. Finally after like 5-10 minutes he jumps off and we can enter the fog gate. Watched him die in like 2 hits on the way down. Now I just jump off the side and die if I get summoned there. Never again.
>get to radahn second phase >die in 10 seconds because I can’t dodge anything >watch people no hit on YouTube >try again >die 10 seconds into the second phase I’m about to give up. Like legitimately uninstall and never play again. It’s beyond me
>>487367424We're long past the time bosses were meant to be beat with pure skill. Nowadays is about how much knowledge you have to outnigger your foe.
> At least until AI reaches a stupidly overly sophisticated point and everyone can ‘fix’ their favorite games in an hour, using bot wife as their tool.Ah, yes. The death of art. It is coming. Soon.
>>487367873I am sorry other unique endings, quests and cutscenes got cut don't get me wrong.>>487367891I did, but the only one that made me feel any urgency or desperation was the St Trina ones.
>>487367424just learn to parry himmakes the fight way more enjoyablemost of his scary stuff, you literally just run away fromthe magic balls, the aerial afterimage spam, the nuke, the comet, just run
>>487367970Not soon enough. Imagine…
>>487367937If you really want to get good do what the nohit runners do. Grab cheat engine, turn off deaths and practice for a few hours. Or just equip a greatshield and do it next try lmao.
>>487367840You're right. We also don't have any non headcanon answers on what makes an outer god. It's one of those terms fans latched onto, like back in the dks1 days people were calling everything bigger than the player "lords" for lack of a better name for the biggers we kill
>>487367937Try the sekiro tear stratIt won't help much with phase 2 I find but it's fucking amazing for phase 1.I had it down thanks to that. I just could not cope with phase 2.
>>487368018>I did, but the only one that made me feel any urgency or desperation was the St Trina ones.So there are signs of Miquella's desperation in the DLC.>but the only one that made me feel any urgency or desperationHe was tearing his limbs and eyes out on other crosses.
>>487367654You just went into an argument armed with nothing but a single failed insult and now you just look retardedI recommend you quit trolling altogether. Like a 5'5" guy trying to get into the NBA - you just ain't built for it
I staunchly believe dung eater is a follower of the fell god. That is all.
>>487368167I wish they were actually there on the ground, or like some form of viscera to actually invoke some kind of guy reaction. It doesn’t really hit hard when you read that he abandoned his arm, then you look down and there’s no arm.
How many of these guys would it take to kill DLC Radahn?
there’s a move where radahn swings twice really fast and I’ve been hit by it like 100 times. I can’t consistently dodge it, the people in the videos never seem to encounter it, but I dodge and then the single hit gets me before I dodge again. The people in the video dodge left every time, I try that, get hit on the second swing, can’t dodge fast enough, I’ve tried positioning the dodge in every direction and nothing works. It’s weird dying to a boss over 100 times and never learning how to dodge his basic combos
>>487367937If you can't keep up with his P2 attacks, get familiar with them by using a greatshield.Just don't kill him if you think that's too cheesy, you need to get to about 20% of the boss' HP to see most of his P2 moves.Consider it to be a training wheel.
>>487368141Well the easiest answer based on the word used in both English and Jap is that it's a god from the outside.Issue then becomes, outside of what?Again, the 3 unquestionable outer gods, are the Rot God, Twinbird and Frenzy Flame (the last one through logical deduction on how the needle works on it). Unless some words used are not present in Jap translations that's what we got.If the word "outside of" is what outer means, then at least the Twinbird does not appear to be "outside" of the Lands Between, so maybe it's "outside the existing order". But then the Fell God and the Moon ought be outside that order, the Fell God at least surely must be. But they're not called such.
Why are these threads so fucking bad.I remember that guy who typed “I was, like, dropped on the head as a baby, okay” to which anon responded with “was the ‘like’ really necessary, retard?” to which I thought to myself “why would you call an obvious retard a retard, you retard”, and that was that.
>>487368323FromSoftware isn't that kind of storyteller. Go and play God of Chip Damage Ragnarok.
>>487368364That specific attack is undodgeable without an ash of war like bloodhound step. Multiple no-hit runners have confirmed. But he is blockable and parryable.
Can anyone give me a lil hint as to where thiolier is ? i already finished the DLC once (even killed putrescent knight) without ever meeting him.don't wanna miss him again on a second playthrough
>>487368479>outside of what?OUTSIDE OF THE LANDS BETWEEN OUTSIDE OF THE GOLDEN ORDEROUTSIDE OF THE TERRESTRIAL SPHEREit’s not hard…
>>487368167The words are to me more metaphor than literal, with the exception of St Trina.>>487368364You mean the left, right then cross slash?Supposedly you gotta dodge twice in quick succession then delay the third dodge just a bit.
So what's the implication here, is this some sort of Rykard situation where he's let himself get mind-controlled by a primordial serpent thing?
>>487366413Most of the "input read" moves I can think of are punishable like the godskins or the sentinels. I don't understand why people would complain about them when you can bait the boss into them and then get easy damage in.
YURI IS THE PUREST FORM OF LOVE
>>487368553Are you stupid? They are like the prime example of that kind of storytelling.
>>487368516There is no proof that being dropped as a child makes you stupid okay
>>487368667>OUTSIDE OF THE LANDS BETWEENGW is that. In fact Fell God and Twinbird are the only ones that potentially are from the planet>OUTSIDE OF THE GOLDEN ORDEREveryone but the GW is that>OUTSIDE OF THE TERRESTRIAL SPHEREI would say this is the same as the first as a matter of practical definitions.
>>487368197The only retard here is the shitter who got spanked by an easy boss and has to cope by defending bad boss design i.e. you. Embarrassing.
Ice Spear's animation is too fucking fancy for such a crude spear, but it's also the best spear to use it on. Hrm.
>>487368737>Have to carry her yourself since Miquella fucked off
>>487368737Finlay you retard you doomed the Haligtree
>>487368682it's not really mind control, he's been suppressing it with his mother's eye charm thing, then he stopped suppressing it. the snake is not necessarily malicious or means ill to messmer, it's just a bad Omen in this universe's culture.
>>487368678>The words are to me more metaphor than literal>to meYour opinion doesn't matter wrt the exposition of the game, Elden Ring is an entertainment content for a mass audience.They never set out to make a game or a story that's perfect just for you.
>>487368819The Fell God is clearly related to the sun, lol.
>>487355150At least messmeryumes post actual fanartThere's far worse forms of spam on this general
>>487368803FromSoftware's Miyazaki is famous for deliberately leaving story gaps and making implicit references.
>>487368874I can't help but cringe at you. Be honest, you're struggling hard right now and it's not at all subtle
You guys made me forget to take my meds
>>487368969Considering besides the physical aspects there are also things like "I abandon here the last of my hesitation" or "my fear" and other things, the exposition is vague enough that interpretation is required.And also, even if that were true, it still wouldn't be an adequate way to represent his suppose desperation, nor would it excuse how he dismisses Malenia who is his primary motivation as just "his loyal blade".
>>487369225Quick! Use this chance to escape it's influence!
>>487368659In the land of shadow, lie graves of spirit. A lone tower suppresses all who wash up here. A lone disciple sits near, overlooking a sea of poison.
It's insane how much people seethe when you buff in the arena. My nigga nobody told you that you have to just stand there and let me do it, fucking run up to me and hit me and stop me if you don't want me to buff.
Why are dead spirits drawn to the land of shadow? They appear to be drawn to any place. Why specify the land of shadow?
>>487369225Are you that lawsuit schizo
You retards told me Flame Skewer was the better one but Flame Lance is miles better on Fire Knight Greatsword, this shit annihilates anything
>>487369396Crucible's there.
>>487369187Projection, eh?
i wouldn't mind all the reused assets in the DLC if those assets didn't including more fucking Dog and Bird reskins.I fucking hate Dark souls 3.
>>487369302>'I don't like it'>'I don't like it'>'I don't like it'>'Still don't like it'You like the game's worldbuilding and lore enough to incessantly complain about it.There's one winner in this and it's not you.
>>487369396Beca-BBBBBRRRRRRRAAAAAAAPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPFFFFFF
>>487369367Its the counter for me, I like to watch them do their dozen different buffs then Regression them to dispel1/3 times they just leave
Why are mods so slutty?
>>487369396trying to find Leda and spook on her when she's naked
>>487369456The crucible is everywhere
>>487368678>>487368654I’m using bloodhound step, it doesn’t help. When I watch no hit runs, they stay close and roll left, but they never get hit. I get hit every time no matter which direction I roll or step to dodge
>>487369464>no u!Yeah, you're really bad at this
>>487369516I just hate this culture of "honor" that the community has cultivated. You're actively hurting yourself by standing there and doing nothing while I buff but somehow you think you're superior because of ""honor"" fuck off I'd prefer you play dirty and actually fight like you mean it.
>>487368682The Abyssal Serpent is the outer god of oblivion. When he removes his golden eye that's been suppressing it and then kills you, he tells you to embrace oblivion as he has now done. Make of that what you will, but for me it's a god that can permanently destroy all, no recycling of souls or body.
>>487369480I like the BASE GAME's worldbuilding and lore enough.I do not like what they did to Miquella and Radahn, and by association Malenia. And this is hardly the most shocking or unique sentiment.
>>487369542This type B services Torrent with her mouth and pussy after every ride, her cervix remembers the shape of his flared tip
>>487369783buffs are gay you're wasting my time die and die now motherfucker
Why is the stormveil face in the shadowlands?
>>487370035>buffs are gaythen fucking stop me from buffing you shitter, run up and hit me it's that easy.
>>487370079The Stormveil face and the faces in the Shadowlands are spreading from the body of Godwyn/roots of the Erdtree in Deeproot Depths
I’m giving up for now. It’s too hard, mentally I can’t take it. It’s going to haunt me for the next few months but maybe I’ll get over it. I can’t beat radahn, I’ll probably never beat radahn. I can’t dodge the twice two-hitter, if I dodge the first I get hit by the second. I can’t dodge anything in the second phase, I’ve tried running away, I can’t survive long enough to learn anything. I want a video of someone dodging radahn for like 10 minutes straight, they all do damage too quickly to learn, my carian slicer doesn’t do poise damage so I’m not getting stuns like they do. I have to stop. It’s not healthy. I have to accept I simply can’t beat this. I was never very good at these games but I always had hope, even when I died hundreds of times, that maybe.But this? I have no hope. I’m not getting better, it’s been like 150 tries. I’m destroyed by this, my confidence is gone, I genuinely feel horrible and hopeless and pathetic
>>487370079Because it's not a "Stormveil face", it's part of Godwyn and his influence is spreading.
>>487370303just one more
If I hump a tree with Godwyn’s face am I humping Godwyn
>>487369989JSYK you're arguing with one of the /v/edditors who come here to baitpost
>>487370303I love and respect you anon.
>>487370303Please touch grass
Now that I think about it, I might just respec into a shield build and block all the attacks, I’m so fucking done with this impossible-to-dodge bullshit
>>487370079Godwyn is semi dead and spreading everywhere
>>487351480How hard am I nerfing myself? Level 35 with 18 dex and 23 int, but I think bosses are too fast to ever use spells and they're not that strong anyway. Oh I also leveled faith to 12.I think this is all very useful for PvE but fuck I feel weak against strong enemies.I can do magic infusion on my weapons and use Scholar armament, I guess that puts all that Int to work?
>>487370303Just use a greatshield and mimic tear. Unironically that’s how the devs balanced the game to be played
>>487370474use the deflect tear and a 2h weapon
>>487370474This is what 90% of people do. Grab the Fingerprint or Moore's shield, get a bleed antspur and/or bleed sword lance, and shieldpoke his ass to death.
>>487370474I mean, that's what I did. I just accepted my reaction time is garbage and I'm too dumb to memorize roll timings so I just hold L1.
>>487370420I read a very good theory explaining how godwyn mirrors some folklore about the river styx and mermaids and the afterlife and how he was fucking the cycle of reincarnation i wish i could find itAnyways yeah maybe
>>487370505Ayo? Godwyn is... spreading?
>>487370303Use fingerprint greatshield and antspur rapier. Radahn is a shit boss, he doesn't deserve to be fought like the others.
>>487369542More like why are wowfags so thirsty for some random whore that appearead as a boss in a dungeon 20 years ago and never had any lore again?
I FUCKING HATE ALBINAURIC ARCHERS
I want to give this guy a Golden Shield, what spot has the highest concentration of Leyndell Knights for me to farm for one?
>>487370720pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew (wolf edition)
>>4873705341) Meet lowest stats required for the weapons/spells/armor you want2) 27 Vigor3) 50(fth/int/arc) or 40 (str/dex)4) 40 (str/dex) or 50 (fth/int/arc)
>>487370754Metaclown fashion
>>487370754The main street with the tipped over carriage leading to the alley
>>487370709>why are wowfags so thirstyCoomers today look at and post 1080p Blender models of the female characters they want to fuckNow think about the level of thirst you need to be a coomer back in the day when you had a low-poly blob of color on your screen you only knew was female because of her pyramid tits
>>487370720Based. There is no reason why my pure tank character should lose half my health from one volley of arrows in Ordinia. Total albinauric death.
>>487370873Name a more suitable set to go with the Bolt of Gransax, I dare you
>>487370754do better
>>487370915They're magic arrows and your tank armor has poor magic defense.
>>487369783There was no honor in PvP to begin with.The system incentivizes PvPers to trade or spawn items and save scum to keep an infinite supply of consumables.This happened since OG Demon's Souls.PvPers like to spend most of their time PvPing, PvPers want to have an edge against their opponents, and many PvPers will cheat items in or save scum to reduce PvP downtime.Some PvPers will choose to legitimately farm & craft whatever they use, but it's a waste of time in the practical sense.
>>487367262>lets fix this game by jerking eachother off in a discord call
>>487370950Death Knight with Divine Bird top.The DK set even boosts Grandad's damage.
>>487370980Holy fuck my eyes what have you done
>>487371007I know what damage it does and I use the appropriate armour and talismans to resist it, doesn’t fucking matter
>>487370720Why do weak cripple women have so much health anyway?
>>487367262>'If I don't like it, it's broken' the video
>>487371116Hard disagree, especially the helmet
>>487371192Health bars. Don’t. Exist. In. Lore.Malenia stabbed Radahn once. ONCE.
>>487370709To be fair, it's a damn good looking whore. Still stands out as one of Blizzard's sexiest designs.
>>487371273death knight with oathkeeper helmet
>>487370631Apparently when you are dead, you coom endlessly
>>487370631He be spreading more than marika's legs no cap
>>487371467Way better
>>487371362WRONG. Rellana is made of literal metal below the armor. Even modders couldn’t find her face. She is ALL metal. Canon.
Everytime I try to make a new look for my FTH character, I just go back to Greathelm + Erdtree Surcoat immediately, I just can't beat that look
Rellana is weak to anal.
Those stwipped of the gwace of gold shall all meet death, in the embwace of Messmer's fwame...
Right right I found itShinto believing life and afterlife are separated by a river, so godwyn (and the tibia mariners for example) becoming more and more aquatic due to being stuck in the river so to speak, half deadCool theory for the visuals chosen
Do any quest break if I beat Morgott in Leyndell?
>tower folk>not sorcerers Were the hornsent just retarded?Do they not know what towers are for?
>>487370793... I want int dex. But maybe it's shit.
>>487371669Your poise?
>>487371679All liurnian women are, in fact
>500 hours in>not even done the DLC with my INT guy>then have to finish the DLC with my DEX and STR guysI'm never gonna get to a FTH or ARC playthrough at this rate, not without becoming a NEET.
>>487371852Funnily enough, spiral incantations are referred to as sorceries in their text or something
>>487371748 I lold
>>487371917You're still missing half the game without Seamless and Convergence
>>48737188651
>>487370720Why?
>>487372017Heh. That's funnyHeheHeheheHahahaHaHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>487372172I find the semantics in this game very funnyWhy do they call them ‘incantations’ when you can hear sorcerer enemies incanting spells?I also like how academics refer to their science as sorcery, as though the name weren’t a pejorative
>>487372058Headcanon
>>487371362Health bars is just how many wounds a given boss can handle before it's fatal.>>487370950cleanrot knight greaves and arms, something like Ansbach's chest or similar. And confessor's hood.
>>487370720>>487371192>>487370915>sacrifice my time and sanity farming the albinigger armor>it looks like shitLe sigh
This spell's good for vig checks.
>>487372341wow that's crazy go play demons souls
>>487372417Alter to remove the cloak. Thank me later.
>>487372359> Health bars is just how many wounds a given boss can handle before it's fatal.Anon that’s retarded. A sword to the heart will kill a demigod.
>>487372341Shut the fuck up, schizo
>>487371812I think it makes sense japs associate water with death unlike the west where water is usually life. They’re an island nation who have an ancient culture based heavily on fishing. The sea is fucking deadly, I imagine back in ye old nippon times a common cause of death was the ocean.
>>487372118My mistake sir, carry on sir. And might I say quite based, sir.
>>487372460How do these motherfucking retards even reach the final boss do they just run past everything
>>487372341It’s intentional. Sorceries and incantations effectively draw power from the exact same source but the game at first misleads you into thinking they’re opposites and then slowly as you progress the line between the two becomes blurrier and blurrier.
>>487372507It looks even more plain and lame without the cloak
>>487371679No Carian woman is weak to anal. Actually, make that Liurnian women, to include Sellen. It's not like Altus where they have Golden Order perfumers to take care of abortions and shit so the primary method of birth control for centuries is to do it in the ass instead. The flip side of this is that Liurnia is culturally more sexually promiscuous and as a result of girls being more willing to put out. You don't see this as much with the Carian women because they're royalty but off her behavior alone you can tell Sellen was a dorm fuckbunny through and through.Ironically what Liurnian women really are weak for is being made love to. Maybe as a consequence of how slutty things can get over there, a man hugging her and burying his face against her neck while fucking her slow and telling her he loves him causes her to squirt like a fountain. Because FAI men tend to be more conservative(no judgement there but it's true) and romanticize things more, this is where the "Liurnian woman going dickcrazy after FAI men" phenomenon comes from. Other Liurnian guys will just fuck them in the ass for a quick one night stand. A FAI man will creampie them and start talking about starting a family a week later, and it drives those sluts mad and activates their mating instincts and bedroom eyes.Hope this clears things up.
>>487372763You underestimate how easy the game is with two phantoms
>>487372950Rellana you can't fix him. He doesn't even think about you.
>>487372341>Why do they call them ‘incantations’ when you can hear sorcerer enemies incanting spells?This pisses me off too. They're called prayers in the japanese version.>I also like how academics refer to their science as sorcery, as though the name weren’t a pejorativeThis is because it's still mysterious/magic to them. It's still half stupid.>>487372472Freke calls miracles "lesser sorceries" in that.>>487372557How the FUCK is he wrong? These games are somewhat accurate in a historical sort of way. The church was also pretending their miracles weren't magic/sorcery.
>>487371834p-please respond
Sellen was made for Sex.
>>487371834>>487373232Reaching Altus breaks questsKilling Morgott does not
>>487373285t. Selluvis
>>487373232Im not sure if Chudmask breaks at that point or if you can still tell him about the statue later in mountaintops
>>487373285seluvis pls.
>>487372926Yes but at least it doesn't ruin most gauntlets you put on
>>487372950>but off her behavior alone you can tell Sellen was a dorm fuckbunny through and through.I sense severe butthurt at the inherent superiority of teacher.
>>487372950Kill yourself, buddy
>>487370631Godwyn walks around half naked he’s a whore.
so when do we fc
>>487374079Nothing I wrote was incorrect so I don't know why you're upset.
were they right
>>487374360Mentally ill coomers ought to kill themselves to spare us of their inane and insufferable rambling
tried to make a lore tier list, it's actually hard.
>>487374705Add shitters whining about input reading to the bottom row
>Radahn fires his bow at the summoner >It hits>590 damage>90% of the host's HP is gone
>>487374928forgot to mention that I'm 90+8 somber so this guy is in that range somehow
>>487374837Put age of stars Ranni and Miquella at the end of the DLC in proper god vessel because they are quite indistinguishable from MarikaWe have no idea of the Gloam Eye'd Queen was a god vessel necessarilyAnd the Elden Beast is something else entirely. Probably between concepts and god vessels. Also you missed Astel or I'm not seeing it.
What are your feelings concerning Malenia's rotabs?
FUCK YES I DID ITliterally just respec'd into a str/dex/arcane build, grabbed the fingerprint shield with guardian shield, antspur rapier with bleed, shield poked him to death first try. so satisfying after dying over 100 times trying to dodge his bullshit attacks.What do I do now though? It just kind of ends like that? You get his memory and you're just left in the area with nowhere to go? What now?
>>487375314*lick*
Fujos seeing messmer for the first time
>>487375314who took the time to edit abs onto malenia
>>487375324good job cutie
>>487375324Someone post the wojak edit. You know the one.
>>487375324You could have made it even easier with more stamina and some other bling.
>>487375324the next step is to kill yourself for respeccing
>>487375501how did you know I’m a cutie? :0
Could you actually create a God by stuffing Shamans into jars? Maybe the Hornsent just didn't try enough
The stereotypes makes themselves, dont they?
>>487375819they weren't trying to create a god
>>487375324Great job! YBTDLC
now that i've beaten the DLC, I can finally watch youtube videos to actually figure out wtf is going on.
What level range is most active right now? I'm at 170 and it seems to have slown down.
>>487375350>>487375437You like?
Am I seriously overleveled for Leyndel at 94 +8 Somber? I'm not getting summoned at all in that area, I wanted to fight some Morgotts...
>>48737673540/70/80/120/138(middle ground)/150>>487376991Yes, be level 70
>>487375314sniffa
>>487365891Buffs in this game are incredibly strong; you're making things miles harder for yourself by not using them, no matter what build you are. Use your Golden Vow + FGMS/Boiled Crab/Fortification and like it.
So... if you burn bones you get cold?Who the fuck thought of this?
>>487377508DLC bosses are health sponges and if you're not already a super high DPS build your buffs are gonna expire and the boss won't give you time to rebuff.
>>487378010I'm honestly impressed with how many people wanted to see undead merman in the dlc
>>487377737So buff before you enter the arena; the lesser elemental fortification buffs last 90 seconds and only require 10 faith to use.
>>487378161well yeah, he was a huge figure in the basegame lore, and had a massive creepy model that you never get to fight. It's weird enough that you can't fight him in the basegame and instead get some npcs and a reused dragon, but then they don't even use the model in the dlc either.
>>487378161We just wanted something, anything utilizing the more interesting parts of the lore. I liked all the Marika/Jar/Hornsent lore but all the Miquella stuff was shit and the way Radahn was revealed made it clear that they just did it to be a surprise as opposed to something interesting.
>>487375314looks off without any other definition
>>487378378Congrats you get past phase 1 slightly faster if you're lucky
>>487375150GEQ having ascended is implied by 1-seemingly having equal control of Elden ring runes as marika(she was able to draw the full power of rune of death)2-Golden Order is created only after her defeatMost likely she was to marika was malenia and Miquella were to ranni, rival to throne
JAR EM BOYS*violent spinning*
What's that mechanic where when you get hit you sorta get stunned? that your dodge input is ignored
>WOWIE THIS IS GAME IS SO FUN HAHA IT LETS ME ROLEPLAY AS A MARVEL HERO!!! I CAN'T WAIT TO BEAT THIS NEXT BOSS>NOW LET ME JUST SUMMON SOME BULLS TO CARRY ME THROUGH THE LEVEL....>OH! HEY THERE RACIST_ARYAN_INCEL1488!! CAN YOU CARRY ME THROUGH THE BOSS?>W-WAIT SOMETHINGS OFF... ARE YOU A HECKIN NAZI???>N-NEVER MIND. M-MUST'VE JUST BEEN MY IMAGINATION>ANYWAYS, LET ME SUMMON ANOTHER SISSY FAGGOT TO CARRY ME THROUGH THE LEVEL, I HOPE THIS ONE IS A FELLOW KAMALA2024 SUPPORT-ACKK
So what was the Rot god’s endgame with Malenia? He was going to end up with a blind, deaf, nuggetted avatar wiggling around on the floor if it kept doing its work to her.
>>487378969how come polwhiner never calls shitmask out... curious
>>487379094What are you implying, retard?
>>487361454You couldn't handle it.She'd be too sweet.
>>487379173what do you think i'm implying?
fromsoft did radahn dirty
What's the huff and puff around the grace this morning?
>>487378827That's assuming you're using the dogshit FGMS buff and not boiled crab or those insane 60% elemental damage resistance buffs that can completely neuter a boss's strongest attacks.
Does Ranni and Melina know each other? It's implied that Melina told her to give you the spirit calling bell but they never mention each other again. Also, since Melina is always with the Tarnished did she saw you going off on an entire sidequest to then get married to Ranni and not make a single commentary about it? Nor Ranni ever mentions Melina always following you everywhere?
>>487379476the boss's strongest attacks... that come out in phase 2 after your buffs have expired?
>>487379491>Does Ranni and Melina know each other?Do*
Sword of Night ORJolan and Anna?I don't really use summons but are the two waifus worth it?
>>487379590so they does then
>>487375150>>487378931What does the Elden Ring actually do if you can ascend to godhood without it? Miquella definitely doesn’t have it and he ascended, I can’t remember if Ranni takes it from Marika during the ending, but she at least discarded her great rune during her planning. Was Marika a god before attaining the Elden Ring? I can’t imagine she took it from Placidisax before becoming a god. Also when did Maliketh come into the picture? The shadow hounds are said to be granted by the fingers to empyreans, but was that the case prior to Marika becoming a god?
I am kind of astounded at the shamelessness of some people.>Summoned by some guy in Siofra>We get to the Gargoyles>He fucking runs to the far corner and just expects me to solo the fucking things
>>487379680What if it's a cute girl playing?
>>487379824get your mind out of the gutter
>>487379624>one of the best weapons from the DLC>or>a mid-tier summonCaptcha: AMGRY
>>487379865I don't know what that means. Games are extremely popular with girls in case you didn't know. We're not in 2007 anymore.
>>487379975why are you the way that you are
>>487379680>Summoned at Bayle>Host sits in a corner while holding up a greatshield, doesn't even cast spells>Ends up being oneshotted by the grab anywayall things considered, it's impressive that he managed to get to that point
>>487380074Huh?
>>487379680Some people go their entire lives without beating a game, they just look for daddies in the general chat who will carry them through the experience. None of their actions have ever mattered and as such they never learn what to do.
>>487380165don't play coy, you know exactly what I mean
>>487375324>respecced for a bossYou and I both know that you failed to complete the assignment. Why didn't you summon help while you were at it?
>>487379563So rebuff during the phase transition or during openings where you could have used a flask? This "boss won't give you time to rebuff" scenario is just made up in your head.
>>487378161>I'm honestly impressed with how many people wanted to see undead merman in the dlcThere should have been both depending if you kill rotten Radahn or not. Everyone would have been happy and would have saw prime Radahn as a great additional bonus.
can you parry radahn?
>>487379975>We're not in 2007 anymoreNo...
>havent played in a year +>walk out of the tutorial area fighting the unfamiliar controls>put the tree sentinel in the stuncuck cage with my virile charged attacks, first tryPeople who can't into this game puzzle me
>>487380701yeah, it makes the fight a lot more enjoyable too
>>487380337No I don't know what you mean. EXPLAIN!
>>487380498And miss out on a charged heavy and possible stance break? Hell no nigga.
He was a real one RIP
>>487380824only the first 1/3rd, after which you may switch to the finger shield + antspur since he decides to start doing anime clone jutsu attacks
>>487378161Miquella was obvious DLC bait, and the only logical plotline for him that didn't involve gatekeeping the DLC behind Malenia was either Mohg or Godwyn. One of Mohg's items says Miquella wouldn't respond to his blood sacrifices, so it follows that it would've been Godwyn.Plus a Miquella/Godwyn DLC would've been cool. Godwyn the Golden/Miquella the Unalloyed(gold) and Death/Sleep are some interesting parallels that I was interested in seeing.
>>487380840please explain to me what you meant by >>487379824 this
>>487381338>after which you may switch to the finger shield + antspursorry anon I'm not gay
>>487381354Pretty self explanatory. I asked you first.
>>487381409I am gay so I can give out the pass. go ahead anon, I give you permission
>>487378161I didn't even want Godwyn, I wanted literally anyone but Radahn again, the most boring demigod in the game whose forced inclusion doesn't even add anything interesting about his character besides making him look even more one dimensional. Promised Consort Dung Eater would've been better, that's how shit Radahn is
>there are LITERALLY gays and women among usI'm glad 4chan is becoming more inclusive.
>>487381075If that's what you choose to do during openings then that's your call, but don't complain that bosses don't give you time to rebuff then.
>>487381349Exactly, plus the Scadutree basically looked like a death tree strangling the life out of the Erdtree, which could been something interesting.
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>>487374837The GW is higher than everything, the outer gods are chumps in comparison. Midra is canonically too weak to become the Lord of Frenzy. Not sure why Bayle and Placi are in different tiers when they stalemated each other (Bayle arguably did more damage ripping off two of his heads). Why is Rellanna and Vyke so high? Why is Eleonora, some bitch ass blood finger, in the same tier as fucking Malenia and Radahn? Why is Godwyn not in demigod tier? There's more but this list is retarded
>>487381856Those women are just men lying to us all for attention because they don't get any being male.
>>487379624The spirit ashes are very underwhelming. The sword is great - even if you won't use it on your current character, you could trade it to an alt or something.
>>487379680Shit, did we have the same dude? White mask, dual wielding katanas(one RoB ofc), name a racist meme with letters swapped out?
>>487379657The greater will is the god of order that rules the universe (presently) and all of the runes are basically tools of shaping the reality of the world. It's why when marika takes out the rune of death, people stop dying, think of it as getting access to terminal on admin privileges, the runes are the commands of the terminal. If GEQ can use the runes, that means she has admin privileges which means that the greater will sees her a vessel god just as marika.The ways to become a god is :1- Be an empyrean/be acknowledged by the fingers to become vessel of the current setting outer god (for example all elden lord endings)2- Choose to allow the influence of another outergod instead of the greater will (Frenzy flame ending, Rannis ending, Rykard's plan)number 2 is very difficult to do, downright impossible because you have to be in contact with another compatible god before becoming a vessel. It's why ranni wanted radahn dead, because he was holding back the stars that were her method of communicating with the outer god.Marika became a vessel the minute she passed the gate of divinity in the shadow realm. She fought off other competition empyreans like GEQ chosen by fingers before going across likely Maliketh is assigned to marika the minute she becomes an empyrean and was essentially her lifelong brother. He solos GEQ and her entire army, and brings destined death back to marika like a fetch toy and fucks off to faruma azula when a fragment of the rune is stolen
>>487379947>>487382301ty anons
>>487382207because bayle ran away according to Florissax, you don't run away in stalemates. Rellana is Rennala's equal and second in line in becoming carian queen. Vyke canonically made it mountaintops which means he got past morrgot before sealing himself. Eleonora isn't just any bloody finger, she is undefeated amongst tarnished and is a drake knight through and through (she didn't turn into wrym despite being into heavily). Chadwyn isn't normal demigod level, he defeated fortisaxx who was the strongest lichdragon out of the gang that invaded lyndell (gransax aside)
>>487351585It's really good on close range weapons with really shit gap closing potential like fists or claws. Like, really fucking good. Also >>487367890
>>487353415>>>487353673>>>487353613>dumb redfag can't even into most basic bitch legacy pvp ringskek
