best boy and best girl edition>Stuff1d6chan -https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Total_War:_Warhammer/TacticsRoll Charts -https://imgur.com/a/81snQma>Total War: Warhammer IIISteam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1142710/Hotfix 5.1.1 Notes:https://community.totalwar.com/wh3-hotfix-511What's Next:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fix3FvsmplA>Total War: Pharaoh DynastiesSteam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2951630Total War: PHARAOH - Dynasties Overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6erHiCuh1tQDynasty system and new royal traditions and gods: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-pharaoh/blogs/26Total War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Map Expansion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJHre9auMY0Total War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Mesopotamia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZIfaNNlCITotal War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Aegean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApDwFGUB4DcTotal War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Campaign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9gOQytqYgsTotal War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Battles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDsYyr4SJYSoundtra>Older TitlesSteam:https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/TotalWar-Official/previous thread: >>487538089
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>>487614134Soundtrack Available: https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/1816488603935244463messed up the link sorry
>>487614134Why is the babby bleeding?
i see they have not fixed the schizo building designthe lvl 1 building gives +50 and this expensive as fuck upgrade +60stone goes from +80 a turn to +230 for a cheaper cost than this shit
>>487614435it's actually a cryptic reference to crusader kings where blood relatives have a little blood drop on the family tree because their next game is actually Medieval 3 and will have family trees and politics with the same depth as Crusader Kings 2either that or it's just using a blood drop to signal blood relatives, the jury is still out there
>>487614387>available in .wavPretty BASED ngl.
>>487567082>Stabilized on 6kI was right! I was right!What did I win?
>>487614038>>Oh shit yeah we surrenderThey tried adding that with Empire but provinces or even forts would hardly ever surrender. Even if the odds were entirely in your favor.
Wtf are the babylonian sappers
>>487614435Indicates blood relatives. It's funny going into Egypt and seeing the blood symbols under Seti and Tausret, who are married. Just Egypt things. In gameplay terms it affects whether your heir can inherit legitimately or not. If you set someone who's not a blood relative as your heir it will cause legitimacy issues when they come to power.
Rip Amarsin.He some shitForgot how squishy chariots could beEuphrates river
>>487614038>Is the problem the 3d map?The problem is mostly that it's very hard for fun battles to occur. Like anon said, part of the reason why he likes the old world map is because it has way more empty space. Everything is going to be a siege or a town battle. While just removing town battles and making them regular battles would improve matters, it's still not a actual fix of the core issue. Which is that the game just doesn't encourage any other strategy besides rushing for the next town.
so the Mesoptomians are the Dwemer basically right?
>>487615519gate suicide dudes
>>487616003Dwemers are inspired visually by Mesopotamians. However, if you read between the lines you realize their true inspiration is actually US! As in, they are basically a modern information age society stuck in a fantasy world.
>>487614038>There's no castle. I assume M1/S1 limited castle sieges to very important provincesNah that's solely because there hasn't been a fort constructed in that province, rebels don't build anything iirc.Sieges happen in all the regions where castles(fortifications) are build up which the motte and bailey icon signifies.
>>487615930he died a hero ;_;7
Tausret surprised me in how aroused she can make me.Hm, guess I do like brown women after all.
>>487616414>liking womengay lol
>>487616161So the solution would be to make it so settlements require the walls be built else it's a field battle (not a minor settlement battle, those are bad too)?
>>487616208His sacrifice brought us victory that das.
God this update has so much sovl, all the characters were even assigned proper background traits. Odysseus has the loves family trait, Achilles has devout warrior, and that cuck Paris has the hedonist trait.
>>487616545Yes.The problem is that, from a player perspective, that means there is literally no reason to ever NOT build walls.
Can you RP a war against the Molochites as an El Canaanite tribe?
>Player numbers are dropping alreadyOwari Da
>>487616709Is pharaoh basically just a do over of total war Troy? I really don’t understand the point of that game now
lollmaoTND
>>487616831Basically people were annoyed with Pharaoh and Troy for just not being a Bronze Age game and instead focusing on smaller regions. So, now they basically made a Immortal Empire map for both games.
>>487616831Kind of, if you want mythical units you still have to play Troy. Pharaoh does make the "historical" mode of Troy completely obsolete, though.
>>487616831I guess Troy has the mythos stuff.
>>487616545Maybe? What I forgot was that armies in the same province but outside the castle would still trigger field battle. I think there were no garrison units so an undefended castle would quickly fall. God it has been ages since I last played MTW.The interaction is inherently a bit different on a 3d map.At least in WH3 part of the issue for me is AI behavior and the combination of movement range and settlement density. Most of the time it feels like your hopping from 1 settlement to the next and the AI prefers to just wait inside which leads to tons of sieges.
>>487616831Histoids rejected mythos units. Pharaoh was a response to player feedback about Troy. They changed everything people cried about.
all the new units have made it even harder for me to no pick Karl when starting a new campaign
>WH3 50% off>PLEASE PLAY OUR GAME!!oh no no no fantasoy bros, not like this....
>>487618090Based.
>history and fantasy>harmonyBeautifully to see.
>>487618424Yeah it's crazy how much better the thread gets when the shitposters trying to pick fights fuck off and people just talk about the games they like.
>>487618424Beauty and harmony, governed by one eternal law, all that begins must end. This peace will not last.
>>487618252This is the golden age. Twwh should have always been niche.
>>487614881>with the same depth as Crusader Kings 2
So far people that are playing Pharaoh are crying about>faction leaders dying to random arrow fire>AI being too aggressive>not understanding what a family tree is>auto resolve being unfair>cav being too strong>archers being too strongI think returning to histoid gameplay was a mistake.
Pharaohfags are still pretending that their game getting one last send-off update before being binned forever so that Sofia can make Warhammer DLCs is a win?
>>487618770All of those things sound good, what's the problem
>>487618770No, fantasoys are trying a new game where generals aren't superhuman SEMs that commit genocides every battle.
>>487618879No, we should instead cry that we are getting all the free content.
I think spearmani suck
>>487616545There's a mod that does that. I use it.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2876864283
>>487619070LEAVE!
>>487619070You suck!
are there any spear/halberd units with anti-infantry instead of anti-large?
>>487618879Have you seen the state of wh3, anon? Yin yin is looking like a never ever.
is historical tw saved?
>>487618770I'm at like turn 15 as Suppiluliuma and this doesn't seem like an issue. Lethality is pretty crazy if you don't pay attention, a an enemy unit of javelins can rake up a lot of kills before you know it, but I just use militia meatshields and keep my kingly unit behind. The family tree is kind of whatever, I only got a couple sons in the past 3 turns so I can't do too much. Cavalry isn't common enough to be an issue. Only the assyrians and cimmerians, who I bitchslapped into vassalage, have cavalry and they weren't that bad.
Ok, why aren’t the Alashiyan women with red hair??Only the tribe in the western desert has red hair.
>>487619776OH NOOH NO NO NO NO NO NO OH WOAH OH-AHHHHHH HA HA HA LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE CHART!!!HHHHHHAAAAHHHHHHAHAHAHAH
There we go, the shitposters are back.
Oh pharaoh is up? Its still drm right idk guys is it good enough to be worth a few burgers?
>>487619851Surely cav can't be good in any game (other than 3k)
>>487619776If it manages to get close to 10k over the weekend, it might legit get another dlc.
>>487620571With lethal damage and shit? That should make cav and chariots a lot stronger
>>487619642Good, Dragons are gay anyway
>>487620610Doubt it, even if it does decently the administrative process of moving Sofia over to Warhammer is probably almost complete. Good update to go out on regardless.
Can I get a QRD on what to build and when in Pharaoh?
>>487621192>Pharoah can’t even beat 3 kingdoms still
>>487621161>whatResource>whenAlways
>>487620348Yeah, it's basically a complete game now and the lethality system is amazing. Makes battles way more engaging and tactical.
>>487621161It's good to have a couple native recruitment buildings, native units don't suck for once.
>>487621851>lethality systemWhat does it do?
>>487622527Sort of imitates the old TWs where most units only have one health by adding a chance for an entity to be instantly killed depending on weapon type.
>>487622752uhhh based???????? why didnt they do this sooner
>>487621492With the number of chinks in existence, if you made a program that shows a "You win!" message as soon as it starts and does nothing else, it would still have more players than Pharaoh and quite a few other proper titles.This is a problem that has not been solved yet.
>>487621161make sure to read the resource buildings because some of them are huge upgrades as you level them while others are worthless so its not worth going past tier 1you cannot build even half the buildings available so specialize on resources or unit recruitment
that is some terrible clipping going on, and wtf is wrong with the phalanx formations, they can't advance or retreat without sperging out for 5 minutes. the free update quality is showing
>Aegean civil war kicks off>watch the cinematic>barricades are shown in the streets Sofia, give us deployable defenses like in Attila instead of more proto-Bulgarian content.
Someone needs to make a Ea Nasir edition later
Really disappointed that Achilles and Odysseus's factions are "minor"
>>487622886They did.
>>487624096lucky for you there's a game where they're the main characters
>>487621851>Makes battles way more engaging and tactical.How?
>>487621492>New game can't beat THE MOST FALLOWED GAME
>>487624096literally the only difference is that they don't have unique buildings or a 100% original faction unit rosterit's hardly noticeable
>>487624283That game doesn't feature Tausret and more importantly lacks marriages
>>487624096They have unique appearances and both have a unique unit, better than most minor factions.
>>487624667lucky for you there's a game where Tausret and her husband are the main characters
>>487623374It's actually fucked. archers wont fire at a certain range because it seems they can't decide which new shooting mechanic to use, they just stand there animation breaking. how did they fuck it up so bad
>>487625030Haven't had a single issue with that, also just change it to the one you want them to use LMAO
>>487624232>ireland and the UKIt sucks that this was the perfect place for a fae and norse dlc. We could have gotten thor vs the morrigan
Any advice? Never done a siege in PharaohThought these buildings would help but it barely changed the balance of power
>>487625985This is the map layout btw, I'm thinking of attacking from the north
Trying to figure out what the best defensive outpost would be. Does this building really have a 30% chance of adding to the provincial garrison every turn? Or am I misunderstanding? It seems like that would just balloon to insane garrisons later in the campaign if that were the case.
>>487626207Generally if you have missile superiority you'd soften them up first, but that doesn't appear to be an option in your case. They mostly have trash infantry, and it's spears only. If you get your sword, axe and club infantry on the walls ASAP they should do well.
>>487618770you can change literally every single one of those, are people just too retarded for campaign customization?
>>487625030nah it happens at max range and that's just always been a bug that doesn't happen very often
>>487625985>>487626207if you can arc shots over the walls do so, also if you get good heavy infantry you can use your superior weight to push enemies off the gate and into the city, so you don't have to just stand there taking tower fire
>autoresolve said this would be a pyrrhic victoryHUH???
Finally get to play an OG TW experience with these minor factions. And Ugarit is right where I wanted; it's between Canaan, Hattusa and Mesopotamia
>>487627208
HECTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
>>487627209>panicked comunnication with Alashiya>"the ships of the enemy are doing harm to my lands">*everybody dies*cool place, Ugarit
>>487627348it is my first time playing tzeentch yes
>>487626416They have an upper limit, 6 I think for the warrior's refuge
should I be adopting everyone into my dynasty, can I inherit their land or some shit?also who should I marry Paris to, will he auto marry Helen at some point and start a war?
anybody else got the gore glitch?I laughed when I saw that shit.
>>487627208how'd you give him a new banner without being branded by the white pixel
>>487628163Iirc you can only inherit factions if another faction has one of your blood relatives as their heir, not the other way around. I don't think Paris auto-marries Helen, the devs said the Trojan War isn't an actual event that you can't avoid.
>>487626986>if you can arc shots over the walls do soHow can I tell?
They're calling it Bronzemania. Teachers are begging parents to stop their children from cladding themselves in heavy bronze armour. Chariot sales through the roof, local chariotmaker says he has a five year backlog. Experts are warning girls to avoid doing the TikTok "Cleopatra challenge."
>>487627973That makes more sense, thank you.
>>487627208installed this cheathttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3159167769
>>487628554the dev in one of the trailers said that he would always marry Paris off to someone else so he could inherit their faction, but I have no idea if the AI would pick him as a scion, maybe because of his stats, over their own children
>>487628782meant to reply to >>487628314
>>487628163She should be in the game as an ancillary you can assign from general to general every turn. Bulgarians, back to work. You are not done yet.
>>487628682>bronze>cleopatraeven in shitposts they fail youI want to strangle females so badly
>>487628694Yeah they weren't crazy enough to make it unbalanced.I think for forts, the ones where you have to garrison units, it was a limit of 9 units.
>play pharaohor>play POE tomorrow
>>487629129she's a person now
>>487629267I meant the original Cleopatra, please understand.
>>487629325No fucking way. Maybe they really did fix the game. I just got home and started playing myself.
I don't see enough matched combat in Pharaoh
>>487629584Reynold Sanity has btfoed sync kills with facts and logic.They have no place in Total War games
>>487629735This. It’s kinda cool for 1 minute and then you realize the entire dynamic and cohesion of mass battles is soiled by it
>>487629358original cleopatra was a fucking seleucid which is even worse!
>barely get 60 FPS in WH3 battles, sometimes even dropping into the high 40s>constant 120 FPS in Pharaoh battlesHOW DO THEY DO IT?
>>487630056Warhammer 3 is the one that runs better for me.
>>487630056Anon, warhammer is almost 10 years old by now. It's the third titled based on cobbling together old code and trying to force it to work. It's a mess.
>>487630056english spaghetti code mostly
>>487630226With Pharaoh I get weird stutter, Warhammer 3 runs better. I get higher FPS on Pharaoh though, but Warhammer 3 doesn't have that stutter that Pharaoh has.
CA confirmed Monkey Warriors about 6 months ago... when are they coming?
>Playing Ramesses>Egyptian civil war, Merneptah declares war on me>Whatever>Merneptah charges at my capital and I kill him in self defense>Seti and Tausret hate me nowThe AI is super aggressive now lmao
guys can playing on an HDD cause stutter?
>>487630882UsurperFalse PharaohBetrayer of the GodsYou will never be the ruler of Egypt
>>487630924>still using an HDD in 2024 Are you still on a Voodoo FX graphics card too huh? Did you download the game through dial up as well or perhaps you somehow found a disk to insert into your CD ROM drive?
>the tier 3 minor settlement military building gives all the good units for assyriabalanced as fuck to get cav archers and shielded spears/swords from that thing especially when you start with the tier 2 version built
>>487631171yeah, I got Total War Pharoah from Game stop.
>>487630882Destiny compels you, son of Ra.>>487631007actually he won
>>487630882aww the wittwe baby can't handle a little bit of warmongeringpick the third option then bitchboy, let the lads enjoy some good ol fashion slaughter
>>487630882>>487631007It feels really weird that even when the civil war isn't happening, the basic method for consolidating power is to make war on your fellow egyptian factions and no-one really gives a shit Like it feels really strange as pharaoh to be attacking and annexing the members of my court one after the other and none or the others care at allGotta get those lands somehow though, not like I can actually rule otherwiseConfederating seems really hard and slow
so I guess you can just kinda do whatever in this game.You can be Alashiya , have El as your patron and then go become Wanax or Pharaoh or Hatti king etc
>see my neighbour moving armies on my border>check if he hates me>nope>check who he is at war with>str rank 4 rapist is burning down all his shit right next to my borderwell then looks like im taking a trip west for a bit
>>487631853It's funny, if you take over Egypt as Irsu he gets voice lines where he basically goes "I'm pharaoh LMAOOOOOO"
So how viable are minor factions for people who have tried? Does the interesting start location make up for more barebones faction mechanics?
>>487630056Probably the models and skellymans. Not the skellyman units, the skellyman animation skeletons. >>487623374Hm yeah, the rigging's fucked. I don't think it was this bad back in troy but I am trying it in Tweak and the body with shorter leg models (IE the thighs are cut) are too far cut down below. That's hopefully something to fix patch wise because the skirt isn't bending the way it should. And I see the tabard bit janking out when he moves.
>>487632495Kind of cool if they really do change some of his voice lines.
>>487632548Depends on the minor faction. Some are basically just the main faction but with less units, but some are interesting because they pull from two rosters (Alashiya), have completely unique units (Rhesus), or have a unique faction leader (Achilles, Odysseus, etc).
>>487632692Oof, ach_armor_thebes is fucked too. So is troy-ach_Cjampion-axeman_armor_03Not all troy armor is - aeginian runners is fine, aeneas dardanian swords is fine, the dendra panoplies are fucked, pic related is right on the armor but wrong on the skirt. When I tried looking at some Pharaoh models I think they may ahve introduced some new bones, and so the updating along borked it.
>>487632909Can you report the exact units you've found to CA my man? They'll probably get it with the hotfix.
>>487632861keep moving assyrianboythis is a babylonian man's general
>>487632495the main lords get unique lines after achieving important milestones, it's pretty cool
>>487632824Yeah, if you select him on map he might go like "Pharaoh Irsu, HAH!" And in court he just treats the whole thing like jokes, saying shit like the god-king commands everyone get drunk
damn why would they change the default turns per year to 3 from 6 now that you have all these characters who'll get old or die in battle easilyat least I can start again and set it to 12
>>487632861sounds evil.
>>487633030I'm looking at the models rather than the units. I could look at the units but I am too lazy to do that.Writing up a report now though
>>487633576good man. seeing that clipping in my first battle hurt me
>>487627554Kino
>>487633548It makes sense, if one of your tentpole features is a family tree you want people to actually interact with the system by having people die. It's nice they included the TPY and immortal faction leaders option if you want to larp the Trojan War or something.
answer me this bronzefags: if the bronze age is so great how come none of the games set in it have topless women even though my educaional picture books told me that multiple civilizations had topless women?
>>487634996TCAL
So is Troy completely obsolete now if you don't care for the Mythos stuff?I had it on my radar for a while, since I like the Greek setting but I'm not sure there's any point to it especially since it's way more expensive than Pharaoh with all content included.
>>487635495pretty much, yeahmythos is still pretty fun tho
>>487635495Troy lords are single entities and the factions have different mechanics. Going from Troy to Pharaoh isn't quite like going from Warhammer 1 to Warhammer 2.
I won't play Pharaoh until there's a mod that removes the ahistorical cavalry.
>>487636059There is one! It is called "Total War: Pharaoh".
>>487636271I thought they added cavalry to Pharaoh for more engaging gameplay.
>>487635801I liked the quest chains to get each monster. The journey to hyperborea to obtain the griffins was my favorite one, even if it wasn't the strongest reward out of the three.
>>487636426You are thinking about Total War: Pharaoh - Dynasties.
>>487635495Unless you really like Greece and want a game where it has more provinces or really want Achilles/Odysseus and such to be major factions rather than minor factions, not much point in getting it over Pharaoh.
>>487635096tell me about helen. why does she wear the clown makeup?
Thoughts on the 300 people who are still playing the original version of Pharaoh?
>>487633729So something peculiar happened. I loaded troy_achaean_Spearmen and the issue is gone.If I assign phar_can_gen_generic_body_04_shoulderhips then it works fineIf I assign troy_man_generic_body_11_shoulderhips it works fineI believe the issue is whether the unit uses humanoid01s (Pharaoh) or humanoid01 (Troy) skeletons. I need to boot up the game and see what units are having the issue.
>>487636485Oh I didn't realize it was limited to the expansion, then I don't mind. I'm sure someone will mod out cav for the bigger map eventually.
ramesses, why does your dad look like a vampire count?
>>487636838I have no doubt somebody will mod them out. One Anon already posted a mod that added cavalry to Mycenae.
>>487636617lotta loyalty for one of Zeus' bastards
>>487637245>no unique portrait for her in gameSOFIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU HAVE THE ASSETS
they're not skavens, they're the fucking vampire coast!
>>487636617Clown make up on a woman is probably some of the hottest adornment that a woman can have .I get severely aroused when I see a clown girl.
>>487637418It's something modders can easily addThey are going to use AI art
>>487637791Is that a tier 6 unit? Utterly forbidden.
TFW bought my son Total War Troy instead of Total War Pharaoh when I went to EB games today on the way home from work.
>>487637801if coulrophilia was that uncommon, it wouldn't have a unique name
I just finished Alien Isolation for the first time and it was really good though the ending was a little abrupt. I wondered how the team that made this could have possibly gone on to make Hyenas but I read that the A:I team was mostly let go and replaced before Hyenas started so that explains a lot. Does competence paint a target on your back at CA? Is that why they were so dedicated to making garbage until Sega stepped in? It was job security all along
>>487637936women look their best in three adornments:-Clown-Middle Eastern Harem Attire ( belly dancing wear )-Veils / hoods-Mandalorian Helmets with tight clothes-and goth
>>487637998why would you let a temporary foreign worker buy games for your son
>>487638320Anon that's more than 3
>>487638504I got carried away and forgot to change the number at the top
are Mycenaeans the new pile of violence faction?
>>487638596Most scrupulous freestyler.
>you can divorce Hecuba from Priam and have Paris, their son, marry herUh...CA, this was an oversight, right?
>>487633729What unit did you use dude? Because I'm testing it ingame and there's no problem. That said, I owe you a favor because this is good to know going forward for modding. Basically I don't think certain troy gear will be compatible on a pharaoh skeleton. That said, in Tweak pharaoh bodies also worked with this gear, so unless a pharaoh skeleton is tied to a specific animation it should be fine. But I wanna look up your unit, which was giving you clipping?Also>There's a phalanx advance option, not just advance regular>It uses an animation (I Think just 'combat advance' I'd O fugg. I did testing earlier and I finally figured out how to replace the default combat animation so while an overhand is not really possible And the Chigi vase is depicting javelin throwing in all likelihood I can get a cooler high-spear stance like the high elves in WH2 (Not the exact same, can't reuse animations) for the phalanx unit.I've wanted a real autism-sink modding adventure and things keep falling in my favor for that.>>487638320I've come around to finding my trifecta look wise is:>Casual gymwear (yoga pants, sports bra kinda deal)>Scantily clad evening dressLast one's more difficult. Bitches love harem chic but despite liking that Orientalism ambiance overall it doesn't make me go unga bunga excessively. Bikinis are great but nothing special stand out. I guess high heels and nothing else on.
>>487638929You can also do that in 3K
>>487638929standard egyptian practice
>>487639075It makes sense to unlock close family marriage for Egyptian marriages, obviously, but I don't know if any other faction did it in this period is why I think it's an oversight.
>>487639013The medium armor general prominently has the clipping issue. Play as Achilles and go into your first battle and you'll see it on his bodyguard.
>>487639013it's these guys from the first battle as Troy
>select entire army>set to control group 1 (optional)>right click on enemy>watch fight with cinematic camera>pat yourself on the back for not using auto resolvelmao that people not only actually play like this but want the game designed to cater to them
Alashiya with El as Sole Patron.RP as monotheist.Attack all Baalists and Molochites and Yaamites and Asherites and take Canaan.
Archaon is quite suitable for a one-man doomstackHas 10% physical resistance built into characterHas 5% ward save from lord effectsGets Daemonic which provides 20% physical resistanceThat is 30% physical resistance +5% wardsave without any items
>>487639614>>487639460Gotcha. In the VMDs I do see phar_map_bodyguard_ach_unit_spear_medium_average (or large or small). So that's probably it.In the tweak it doesn't let me load his animations. But he's listed as humanoid01, so it should be working.I'll test that in a sec, but I think some things are just scuffed. I was checking to see if I could get it in a custom battle. Generic mycenaean lord, club weapon. His bodyguard all use dendra armor, that's fine. They all have the same face with a big ass nose - that's okay...they all use assyrian helmets. Every single one.That doesn't seem right.
you can change a generals entire body guard unit by giving them a different weapon, pretty neat. i'm guessing giving them a mount will also make them cavalry or chariots
>units get wet when running through a riverholy technology...
>siege enemy settlement>did not notice the enemy single general pillaged my shrine>second army cant get the shrine speed buff to reach the settlement to reinforce>end up with a kino battle because of my own mistake>battle is next to a river so i can get the entire enemy army stuck in water>get some shit called cadmean victoryassyria stands supreme
>>487642850my favorite thing was seeing blood skid marks from chariot wheels, also they knock down tall grass like someone making crop circles. unrivaled technology
>>487643019anon...cadmean victory is pharaoh's version of pyrrhic victory...
Someone explain the new Pharaoh update to me please. I refuse to watch cyber beggars.
>>487643250It added Babylon, Assyria, Mycenaeans and Troy so it's actually TW Bronze Age now.
There exists 1 Legendary Lord who can acquire their own defeat trait.
>>487642850they also get muddy when running through mud and sandy when hit by a sandstormthe detail is pretty neat in this game
>>487643239i had never seen one until now
>>487642850>>487643106>>487643789>drunk Bulgarians in their basement office can add better reactive environmental details than bongs with their unlimited budget and hundreds of employees
>>487643250Doubled the mapsize more or less4 new major factionsa shit ton of minor factionsoverhauled the battle system with lethality (every entity has 1 hp so they can get instakilled) Dynasty treesthats what i can remember off the top of my head
>>487643019>>get some shit called cadmean victorygame takes place 900 years before Pyrrhus was born, they couldn't just call it a Pyrrhic victory Cadmus was the mythological founder of Thebes and according to Greek mythology when he founded the city he battled a dragon, while he was victorious in the end all his companions perished
>>487641081Okay, I reported the bug. I am not sure what is causing it but:>it seems to be bodyguard units only (Achilles guy, try the achaean spearmen and you'll see no such bug)>It isn't body based - the Achaean bodyguard from what I can tell use the Troy bodies. Holy shit though the amount of VMDs to edit is agonizing. I love the customization they're offering but every single general having a separate VMD. It's what you'd wish Warhammer had (maybe dogs of war if they do it) but god damn will it be pain if you want to edit something. I love these drunk bulgarians. Please do medieval 3, please. >>487644142Damn what soul to even make sure your idiom is authentic.
>smack around the 2 closest neighbours>babylon is ripe for the taking>assyrian high kang dies fighting some minor shits>new kang is some literal who lvl 2 guy>have enough clout to contest the high kang and could go straight for thatpretty good so far and i fought every battle except some rebels manually6 turns per year might be a bad idea since at this pace my kid will never make it to adulthoodalso difficulty seems to be whatever except for public order which fucks you up just like in warhammer
Priam starts with a full province (4 settlements).He also enjoys the company of Hector and Paris.The Bronze Age belongs to Troy.
Troy is also strength rank 1 at the game start.
feels nice to play some comfy, small battles again on maps that don't look like shit
Any fun facts about Pharaoh?
Was playing babylon when my leader called out "I am a kassite!"I thought he was babylonian??
Any suggestions on key settings to turn down to make performance a bit better? For Total War Pharaoh.
>>487646135Post your settings page.
>>487646012Kassites ruled Babylonia from 1531 BC until c.1155 BC
Bros? Is Troy worth giving a shot? I remember it having a rocky launch, but has it changed for the better? What do you think? How is the DLC?
>>487645073>>487645297>*sends heavily armoured pile-o-violence across the Aegean*I was gonna say "nothing personal", but that's just false it's personal, Wilusan
>>487645740Šuppiluliuma's goofy conical crown/hat is an extremely realistic depiction
give me more rats
>>487645740You can now play as the Pharaoh but he is a "minor faction".
>>487647629and in-game for comparison
>>487646861Do you REALLY want mythological units like Cerberus, Harpies, etc? If so it's worth it but considering how expensive it is with all its DLC there's no point in not just getting Pharaoh if you just want the characters and historical units.
>>487647846This guy looks cool. Helps that he is the heavy spearmen dude.
>>487633554revolting against me is evil, all actions I carry out against those who revolt against me are noble and just
>>487646784Are there any native Babylonian minor factions?
>>487647884Just looked into Pharoah, and it basically includes all the faction from Troy but in an actual historic setting now right? It looks cool, and it's 26 Euros only. Would you recommend that instead?
>>487647736Love rats
What are your thoughts on the default lethality settings? I sort of like it so far. Archers and Javelins are shotguns at close range now but fold in seconds when charged with axes, swords, or clubs. Have yet to get into late game though, hopefully trained troops react better to overwhelming force than early game fodder.
everything in pharaoh feels like katana ashigaru
>>487648065Babylonia is about as Kassite as Britain is German because König Karl III of Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha ("King Charles III Windsor" to fool the peasantry) is in charge by the time Pharaoh takes place they've ruled Babylon for well over 400 years uninterrupted
>>487648116nta but Minotaurs and Hydras are the only reason to get Troy, Pharaoh is the best historical game in a long while so if you want history get it instead
>>487647997he's also the rightful king of Hatti
>>487649369Yea it looks fun. And I have honestly been missing some historical TW. Can the Lethality setting be turned off? From what I saw it look's like it's pretty bad right now.
>>487646692I’m on the ultra preset everything is at ultra if possible. No extreme.
>>487647629imagine being a king revered just below a god and commissioning your kingdom's greatest sculptor to make a statue of yourself and he comes back with this
>>487649140I hate kassites though
>>487649650you can turn it off or make every single hit lethalId encourage you to look through the customisation options, there's a ton of stuff there from battle and campaign balance to AI behaviour
Is Pharaoh good now? Not sure I want to drop forty kangaroos on it.
>>487650220if only you knew how goofy Hittite art could get
>>487650495Thanks bro! One last question if you don't mind! But how would you say the actual empire building/management is compared to TWW. It's one of the things I have missed the most. And if possible I would rather have fewer but well managed cities compared to just expanding endlessly. I usually loose most interest when the game just turns into a map painting simulator.
CA FIX THE MEMORY LEAK ON THIS FUCKING MAP AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I don't known much about the setting of Pharaoh beyond "Sea People arrive and kill almost everyone",my question is if they wanted too, what more could they add to Pharaoh? Any factions missing?
>>487651043Pretty sure they've hard-line stated they're not doing any more DLC for Pharaoh
Why is this bitch carpet bombing us with diarrhea
>>487650220>Paid by exposure
>>487650747>But how would you say the actual empire building/management is compared to TWW.I think it's better, pharaoh doesn't have money instead it has food/stone/wood/bronze/gold and each settlement usually only produces one or two resources so you're really encouraged to specialise your provinces to maximise output >if possible I would rather have fewer but well managed cities compared to just expanding endlesslyconsider Babylon, other Mesopotamians are also seem good at playing tall but Babylon is specifically singled out as the tall faction also in Pharaoh you win by collecting victory points, which you can do with aggressive expansion but having allies and building wonders also count, I haven't won yet in dynasties but you should for example be able to win a campaign without conquering outside your culture's "sacred lands", so you could win as Babylon without expanding outside Mesopotamia for example
>>487652248Thanks bro! I am actually looking forward to trying it out when I wake up. I really appreciate you taking your time to write this! Have a great day/night!
>>487651043The team that made Pharoah is being sent to the warhammer dlc mines so we're not getting anything elseRealistically they could've expanded the map west a bit to include Italy and the Balkans, or maybe east to include more of Elam.
>>487651043Everything truly relevant is in now tbqh.The only "missing" factions in Pharaoh are the hist equivalent of WH3 "missing" fishmen.
Why did CA even bother?
>>487651043They could expand the map in any number of directions to add more content but Sofia is doing Warhammer DLC now
>>487652981ESG title for ESG $$$
>>487652981They were probably already making it as DLC and decided to just make it free to avoid yet another PR disaster since no one would buy it anyway
>>487618770>cav being too strong>archers being too strongArchers cannot be too strong if their direct counter is also too strong.
Crazy how they call it the Bronze Age but the majority of stuff was made out of copper.
>>487653481archers can be too lethal to targets and cavalry can be too lethal to targets at the same time
>>487651043So >>487651126 with someone saying here if the game is received well they'd reconsider, but I'd say no it's a firm no. Now if it does gangbusters wtfbbq then they'll reconsider, but let's assume it's a no for now. As to what to add, you can see from gear added what they likely considered:>Ara_ (Arab) have stuffYou know them. I don't know what their shit was, they kind of really perk up more in the early iron age. Camels, obviously.>Ara_ (Aramaeans) have stuffThese Semitic guys are weird because they never had any huge kingdoms, save Aram-Damascus, yet Aramaic ultimately became the lingua franca of the middle east until Arabic took over (Greek would take over a little but as an upper class thing). It's more that anyone conquering up lots of territory ended up with lots of aramaeans and so had to speak the language. Flighty and skirmishy.>Ura_ (Urartu) has stuff.Urartu was around lake van (Nariri or whatever ingame), came around in the 800s. Again, this with the arabs and arameans REALLY suggests they wanted to do a 700s era campaign but the DLC got cancelled. These guys were basically Assyria of the mountains, they had lance/melee cavalry.>Cim_ (cimmerians)Obviously proto-scythians.>Ash and whatever for BabylonObvious.
>>487618770>faction leaders dying to random arrow fireBased>AI being too aggressiveKWAB>not understanding what a family tree isBrainlets>auto resolve being unfairKWAB>cav being too strong?>archers being too strong?
>>487652981She's the wisdom and the truth: Creative Assembly SofiaPerennial, beyond the time, she is the oneYou're the river, you're the wombPerennial, CA Sofia!!
>>487653998>palworld_character.png
Would the world even exist if the Mediterranean didn't exist?
>>487652981It has a different name to base pharaoh
>>487655242Oh woah 3000 players on launch day I fuckin kneel
I haven't really followed Troy and Pharaoh series but are they basically porting Troy to Pharaoh like how they did with the warhammer series?
>>487655436Mostly. All the characters, historical units and maps were ported. The Mythos stuff and faction mechanics each character had in Troy was not ported.
Tausret is a pooner now
>Achilles heavily armored guard leaves a trial of ravaged grass wherever they walkwhoa
>>487657145
>>487657454Siege engines and heavily armored units will flatten grass, yeah.
I'm too busy playing Elden Ring to try the update, is it fun?
>>487657712no
>>487657712More fun than Cock Ring at least.
Who are the best heavy infantry factions in Pharaoh?I play Chaos Warriors, Chaos Dwarfs, Dwarfs and Lizardmen with 12+ units of heavy infantry almost exclusively, only taking breaks to play monstrous infantry factions
>>487658868For defense, Troy. For offense, Mycenaeans.
>>487658417Thanks.>>487658529Doubt it.
>Can set Lethality to 100%So is this classic 1 hit kill TW mode?
>>487660050the issue would be that units in rome and medieval blocked hits a lot more often, so it will result in units dying even faster than shogun 2
>>487660050If the melee attack roll succeeds, yep.
>free update makes new people realize how good the Sofia team is at making a tight, cohesive game that isn't a fucking mess of features like warhams or even older historical titles like rome 2Feels good man. Hope they give them a proper historical mainline release next time instead of this wishy washy pseudo "eras" shit. Even if they insist this isn't Eras, it's obvious the game would have released like dynasties if it had seriously been considered it a full title.
>>487653904Unfortunate, hope they go back to add content like Rome 2 but I doubt it.
>>487660537Funnily enough Sofia was the one that saved Rome 2 with Empire Divided/Rise of the Republic and the family tree.
>>487635495No, it's a different experience. I think most people that claim this haven't actually played Troy. It's a lot more narrative and "team" focused and has some nice nods and tidbits related to the homer lore of you're into that (you should). Some of the unique faction mechanics are really neat and campaigns like panthesilea's feel very fresh, even if some of her mechanics were pasted onto sea peoples. It's a shame they didn't add minor nomadic factions.
>>487660050You'd need to find the DB table to increase the protectiveness of bronze/silver/gold(?) shields. And probably adjust the variable for chance of hit overall. IF you are interested in trying to do this I can teach you.>>487660849What devs say is always predicated on sales or future events, so things can always change. I'd not 'hope' for it or expect it to happen but I mean who expected dynasties to come out after Pharaoh? One thing I wish is for Attila they (CA) released a DLC for the assembly kit that allows you to edit the map. Or more accurately, it had files that the LOTR mod guys figured out how to make the map editable. Currently Pharaoh does not have that. I am not sure I could learn myself how to edit it as the LOTR guys did -if- it were possible, but the terrain in the east makes me wish we had just a little bit more settlements there for the Zagros and Caucasus. Or failing that that we could add them ourselves. It's not so necessary for the bronze age, but it's that "if we just had a little bit more it'd be even better">>487660537If the mainline CA is working on 40k (or star wars), I'd be happy with Sophia doing Medieval 3, they clearly have the skill to do so.
>>487636954Man, no wonder he left for Sinai. It must be super embarrassing to have yzma as your dad. Him and anemmesse or whatever his name is must share fashion tips too
>troops per army can be globally limited to 10 or 15 units instead of 20Jesus christ I hope these campaign options get added to every single game from now. Having random personalities is nice too, reminds me of random lucky nations in paradox titles.
wtf the pharaoh soundtrack is great, what's the song that plays in the opening movie called?
>>487662704darude - sandstorm
family trees are shit. no one likes having your cool leader that you built up over dozens of turns die of old age. no one likes being at the mercy of rng events to have your faggots decide to drop the cocks and get a wife or have a son instead of hitting pipe. anyone who claims they like this shit is fake and gay and doesn't count.
Just beat my first Attila grand campaign as the Vandals. This was pretty fun, I think I'll try WRE next.
Is there a Total Warhammer equivalent character to how niggers act absolutely suicidal? My first thought is Beastmen but nah, not dumb enough. I really can't put my finger on it.
why is the general always the last to die in AI armies but mine are the first to die in mine
>>487663382you can just turn it off you dumb-dumb
>>487663792>natural state is belligerence and laziness>rarely if ever craft anything for themselves, prefer to salvage what they can steal from others>what they do make is as slap dash and low quality as possible>leave nothing but destruction and ruin in their wake>minimal concept or care of the future or consequencesgreenskins
Explain lethality to me, are my units just gonna get shredded?
>>487663382You can set it to 12 TPY and old age death chance to not even start until 80 you retard. Getting a wife is also as simple as clicking a button.
>>487658868>>487658963Hittites also have beast armored troops.>>487660893I mean, I honestly wouldn't say they "saved" it, they did what they could with the piece of shit they were given, that's for sure. RoR is pretty good though, you're right , but the base game just feels incredibly dumbed down but also incoherent, including the stuff they added later, like the family tree.A good example of what I'm talking about is the diplomatic missions in Rome 2. They are completly disconnected from actually diplomacy, and from what I can remember, it's not like any character has a better chance of pulling off than any other character. It's completly random. The family tree barely has anything to do with the political stuff, it's like a bunch of self contained minigsmes that don't affect anything else.Troy and Pharaoh are completly different in this regard, even if they also like to have this "compartmentalized" way of adding features like the legacy paths or whatever they are called.
>>487664141Which faction has the best archers?
>>487664105Depends on what unit is attacking you, different weapons have different lethality chances. Spears, for instance, have low lethality.
>>487664105it means every rock, arrow and javelin coming your way is way more likely to kill units. my archers feel like they have MG42's when I flank a unit stuck in melee now
>>487664287Amenmesse's have the best range.
>>487661608If I'm being honest, I think the game was going to reach this state, with the Aegean and mesopotamia added, at one point or another, but they were probably going to be DLC as a sort of map expansion or just straight up faction dlcs, but then the hyenas shit happened and also the Warhammer DLC debacle, and they happened to use this as a PR manouvering and regain trust.Essentially histchads are getting free shit because the main team and hyenas team shat the bed.
I've been defending Alashiya and making it a fortress island.10 units in each fortress outpost.
>>487663996>>487664129you can't in older games where it was supposedly so popular that they added it to the new one
>>487664091Ah yes, that adds up nicely. Well that kinda makes me want to play Greenskins now. I've only had experience campaigning with Wurrzag while my buddy played Grom, and i felt we were very honorable orcs on our righteous journeys to get my shit back from some bitch ass mothafuckas and then go get my buddy some grub... Wow now this is really painting a clear picture. I'm gonna have to make an active effort in all my future campaigns to remove all Orcs. Can't trust the Goblins either, especially the ones that put their big hook noses on their flag.
>>487663382It's the opposite for me, characters are cool but I'm more of an emergent stories kind of guy, it's a shame CA never adds enough variation to generic characters. It was especially bad in 3k where family stuff was at its best. I also loved the espionage mechanic in that game, I wish they bring it back someday. And also, the fact that you CAN lose a character you've built up adds a tension that makes you actually care about it.
>>487664141To each their own. The diplomatic missions are basically useless and I never used them but I found the family tree actions to be pretty valuable in manipulating the politics system, which while simple is also fun enough. Sometimes I like Total War games that have comparatively simple campaign level mechanics that are consistent across factions so I can focus on smashing guys into each other. Rome 2 also has things I really miss in Pharaoh, like the battle maps being generated from terrain.
>>487664648Yeah, because you're playing an entire empire in a campaign that lasts hundreds of years. You're not just building up a character, you're building up a family and setting up your kids to be even better than their parents. Stick to your le epic marvel heroes game bud.
>>487665271Yeah, like Achilles would die from a few Tier 1 Canaanite Spearmanii in real life.If I play Achilles, I should be SMASHING through Spearmanii.
so Canaanites just have no royal path. Ok, that's cool I guess. Thanks a lot CA.
>>487665521Play Troy then. In Pharaoh the Greeks are Iliad characters only because we have no named Mycenaean leaders. The idea they're going off of is that the Iliad characters were based on real life people who obviously would not have been one man armies.
>>487665521You can turn off lethality I think. I'd expect there's stuff in the tables that can be edited to bring back herohammer of Troy.
why does it seem like there will be a Crete DLC?
>>487663382I don't particularly care about characters at all, I find them to be the least interesting part of any media.
Lol do you actually play as subversive devil worshipping kikes in a video game?! No fucking way. Do you also get to murder them?!
>>487665271yeah but it was shit and never actually worked. you have your king who is a saintly genius with a 14" cock but then no matter how hard you try his son ends up being a corrupt alcoholic retard who doesn't manage to get married until he's 30 and then only has daughters.
>>487666091who the fuck are they subverting in 1200 BC?
>>487666415that's called emergent narrative
>>487666446lol not serious right?
Alashiya playthrough is weird. Almost completely neutral.Just giving bronze to everyone , supporting both sides of wars abroad with bronze and making a fortress isle.Legendary difficulty. Ironman mode.Only people to attack are the sea raiders.
>>487666415You say that like it's a bad thing. The fun is in the challenge.
>>487666446Just going to take a shot in the dark here, Warhammer only player, do there happen to be Assyrians in that game? Just curious.
>>487666415Yeah, that's life.
Test
>>487666415If your son is winning battles and staying in cities with cultural buildings he's not going to be getting more than at most a couple bad RNG traits. Still, having only daughters or getting a shit son could still be entertaining because sometimes it's fun to turn around a terrible character or keep the empire together regardless of its shit leader. We get it, you just want to watch numbers go up rather than roleplay, Warhammer is definitely for you.
The prime objective is to defend the red heads of Alashiya. And Alashiya is also Monotheist. You simply set El to the 1 god slot and leave the other 2 empty.
>>487666747there's no fun in roleplaying when the game is rigged against you. sending one guy to govern your most worthless region because he ended up with bad traits is funny, but not when it's happening to 80% of them. I built cathedrals and universities in all of my cities, never built a tavern, only recruited generals with good traits for the first generation, and by the third generation they were all fucking mouthbreathers.
Yo why is that western desert culture have full on red hair? What is this?Is this soft disclosure?
>>487666497>>487666637the israelites are still a bunch of irrelevant nobodies complaining about not being paid enough by the pharaoh in 1200BC.no, you cannot play as them.
>>487666415You say that, but it feels great when you manage to make a great character out of that alcoholic retard, or his son.
>>487667138I've never had 80% of my family end up with bad traits when playing properly, that's a pretty heavy over exaggeration.
>>487666637Yes, there are Assyrians in the game and you can play them.
>>487667269
>>487667138Sounds like you didn't put them on the field enough.
>>487666446ohyou know just everybody no bigdeal. phoenicians were a big one, the dudes that colonized the mediterranean, the dudes that built carthage, colonizing spain and yada yada. definitely fucked them pretty hard all because they were schizo jews and eventually said fuck our partners and allies and resulted to human sacrifice (phoenician people) and started worshipping golden cows. just your every day jew shit
Does Dynasties include the blood DLC? It doesn't seem to list any DLC for itself, only the legacy Pharaoh does.I'm not going to buy the blood DLC either way, it's such a scam to charge extra money for it
>can't play as israelites>CAN play as ancient Palestinians (the peleset sea peoples)Get fucked jews
>>487667423HOLY SHIT I'M DOWNLOADING IT RIGHT NOW I'M SO SORRY /TWG/ ABOUT LAUGHING AT YOUR 700 PLAYER BASE.Does the game go up to 700BC when Israel is wiped off the fucking planet and Assyria takes any living souls left back as captives?! Fuck that's gonna be amazing, someone needs to tell the rest of 4chan, this game is going to have the highest numbers on Steam if this information gets out!
>>487667814Peleset are Philistines and they came from Greece, they're not Palestinians retard.
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>>487667861>>487667861Unfortunately you can't kill jews in this time frame. You CAN pretend the Jerusalem faction (whatever it's called) is Israel though and bully them.
>>487668006Exactly, the philistines, meaning ancient falastin
>>487667861The start date is hundreds of years before the kingdoms of israel and judah, and judaism even come into existence.I guess you could genocide the area preemptively?
>>487668250This seems like the best course of action.
>>487668243No. The Philistines were killed or exiled by the Babylonians in the 7th century BC. Last I checked, Palestinians were generally accepted to perhaps come from some of the Caananite tribes that didn't end up becoming Jews.
Been playing dynasties on and off for like 12 hours now. 8.5 hours record. Playing as Suppiluliuma on hard difficulty and I really like it. I have 100+ hours and several campaigns of experience in Pharaoh so I'm already familiar with a lot of it. The lethality system is good and makes battles feel better. Last samurai'ing enemy leaders with a hail of javelins or employing axemen to charge the rear feels even better now. The family tree and deed system adds a sense of immersion which I appreciate coming from warhammer. The added scale of the campaign with new factions is also very nice and I'm eager to traverse more of it. Right now I'm still mostly focused on Hatti and am fighting a civil war against my ex-vassal who had 100+ legitimacy by like turn 30. That's my tiny review and campaign post before I feel asleep. Glory to Hatti.
Verdict on the new Pharaoh update? Is it fun yet?
>>487668878Glad you having fun
>Achilles doesn't have his Myrmidons
Alright fellas... 2D or 3D cards?I would like to use the stylized cards but I can't fucking tell them apart easily. I wish you could have separate settings for characters and troops, that way I would use 2D for the former and 3D for the latter
>>487669063Yes, I'm having fun killing Troycucks as Chudchilles.>>487669304Achilles gets several unique units including the Vanguard of Pteleon thoughever
Help me choose my first campaign I'm dynasties:>Confederate all Greek heroes as achilles/odysseus/Ajax and try to become pharaoh>migrate with rhesus to anatolia and take Ankara to emulate the galatians>have a comfy coastal kingdom as sarpedon>migrate back to Crete as the peleset, burning shit on the way >
>>487669304he even talks about them when you move him around. it's kind of sad. unless they're some elite unit you can only recruit later on which I doubt
>>487670242Migrate to Egypt as Achilles. Come home white man.
>>487668250If i can play Assyria and go full scorched earth 500 years earlier than in our gay timeline then hell yeah brother>>487668538So it seems, so it seems.>>487668649>phoenicians decimate the area because kikes are kidnapping their children and sacrificing them after blood rituals and using shekels to support their enemies>assyrians decimate the area because kikes are kidnapping their children and sacrificing them after blood rituals and using shekels to support their enemies>kikes like cockroaches just keep returning to the area and doing sick shit>king nabopolassar of babylon decimate the area because kikes are kidnapping their children and sacrificing them after blood rituals and using shekels to support their enemies>babylon was so sick of the jews existing that they took the last jew king manasseh and had all his sons killed in front of him and then had his eyes burnt out with scorching hot steel rods>the final tipping point for the babylonians 'fuck around find out' meter was jews took shekels from the babylonians and financed a war against the babylonians>canaanites literally repeat this one simple trick to get ric-ACK>canaanites end up going back to that same plot of land like cockroaches>rome comes along and does the exact same fucking thing to them in the endIsn't there like a dude that said history repeats itself?
>>487669304>>487670503Myrmidons are in, they're the Wanax unit Paragon swordsmen. Better get to kicking Priam's ass.
>>487669973>Vanguard of Pteleonare these guys even a thing historically or in the Iliad? seems random
>>487671147Two Pteleons are mentioned in the Iliad, actually, one near Pylos under Nestor and the other in Thessaly. Dunno what the basis for the unit is.
What unit size do you recommend for Pharaoh?
Whoa played too much pharaoh today.I can’t help but notice that the only ‘Creator God’ archetype which CA included across the cultures was El in the Canaanite culture.So what I do is just play as a Canaanite , only select El, and RP as monotheist.
One thing Warhammer Total War has going for it is pure variety.
>>487675367one size about the default setting
>>487675367Ultra is probably the intended one and is pretty close to Warhammer's ultra unit sizes. Extreme matches Rome 2/Attila's ultra unit sizes.
>>487675854that has been known since the moment the first TWWH released, there was only ever mental gymnastics cope from the diehard brandwar histfags that the "variety isn't real variety"
>>487676198And one thing every game that isn't Warhammer has going for it is sieges that don't suck.
>>487675367Small correctly simulates the real population levels of the Bronze Age. The population of the Egyptian kingdom at its peak was 43,500 people.
>>487676580Lol Egypt had 20,000 men alone at Kadesh, and another 20,000 who stayed back and didn't engage. You're telling me 40,000 of Egypt's 43,500 people went to Kadesh to fight?
Total War: Fallout when?
>>487677064How will it not just look like Company of Heroes with a Total War Campaign map?
>>487677551Hey now we're talking about Fallout, not 40k.
How does one play Bay?
>>487677954Like a complete jew
Why does it feel like they gonna have some DLC?Crete DLC , in particular.
>Order chariots to ram into enemy>Get them to charge out the back>They won't charge out the back and get stuckWhat am I doing wrong?
>>487678095it doesn't feel like that at all? the Knossos civilization has been gone for centuries and the devs said this was the final content patch
>>487678816you're not clicking fifty times a second to get them to follow orders
>>487678959So spam them to charge into enemy and then proceed to spam right clicking behind them?
>>487677954You must rub your hand together when you plot betrayal. Also you sell your allies for gold. And don't forget to employ subversive strategies and work hard to help enrich Egypt with poor sea people refugees.
>>487679002no, first let them float into the enemy for barely any damage compared to other titlesthen proceed to spam click outthen cry at what they did to your boy
>>487679110so they don't have that satifying warhammer flank crash?
>>487679172>satifying warhammer flank crash?if you think ANY chariots in WH are as good as they were in the past (besides LL ones), you're smoking cracka pharaohfag is probably having a laff over that one
Would having light armored units with armor piercing fight heavy armored opponents have my light armored win? If not, I would assume they would if they get them in the mud?
>>487618770>>archers being too strongThat's the only one I could sorta agree on. Assur levy archer absolutely decimate anything you face in early game including general's bodyguards. I hope that as armies become more armored they'll become more arrow resistant.
>>487679889in a vacuum, if you charge them constantly, and abuse your tiny speed bonus over them.....sometimes you'll win if leadership holds outkinda meh but mud does make it easier for sure
>>487615930>found a Hittite waifu just before the battle he died inFuuuck I'm sorry Amarsin
>>487677954>literally sells his sister to Merneptah>rises through the ranks while sister is getting fucked by Pharaoh's wrinkly old dick>uses kike financial magic to take over the Egyptian treasury>used funds to play Seti and Amenmesse off against each other>after both are dead under mysterious circumstances places a child on the throne as a puppet>literally depicts himself as the power behind the throne, starts building tomb for himself in the valley of the kings and makes inscriptions where he is portrayed as having equal importance to the PharaohBay was the ultimate Jew and would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for Tausret's incredible powers of antisemitism
Why is this an ability instead of a straight buff to the stats
>>487680932she is so hot
>>487681096Because Monkey Kang's weapon will remove it.
>>487681345didn't this get hit with a huge nerfstickI stopped playing
>>487681096I think its some legacy thing at this point, where they were turning tabletop terms and traits into total war ones. If there was a term associated with it, it had to be a little icon on the unit card, like Frenzy, Fear/Terror, Immune To Psychology, etc.
the bravery to name a character "Golgfag" in this day and age. Hats off to CA.
>>487681438Dunno about that, but camp santo's faggotry knows no bounds so I wouldn't be surprised.
>>487677064Fallout only has two factions: BoS and the Enclave. Both mirrors of dudes in power armor.It would be very boring.
>>487681629yeah, it became a CHANCE to ignore evadeholy fuck I'm glad I stopped
>>487681096one of Warhammer's weaknesses is that a fuckton of abilities have to be manually activated, making characters micro-heavy and making spells less distinctand we don't even get formations and dismounting!
karl franz: prince and also emperor.
>>487681740You listed jobbing NPC fodder, not factions.
>>487679961look at those bazonkers
blob formation
>>487681840>we don't even get formations and dismountingWe finally got a shield wall for dwarfs. We're making progress after seven years!
>>487681258I can't deny that a real queen and antisemite
>>487682220its hilarious that the flc faction had stance changes before the dwarfs (game 1 faction)
So, do I understand correctly that Dynasties is Pharaoh +Troy combined?I feels a bit shady for someone who already owns Troy.
>>487682457It also added Mesopotamia over in the east. Greeks and Trojans also have different gameplay mechanics than in Troy.
>>487629930Reminds me of this.
So, is Pharaoh worth playing now?
>>487682457>>487682607Babylon is fucking fun. They remind me of Oda in Shogun 2 where you have lots of cheap slave units to take the brunt for a small elite fist of super soldiers. Babylonian Sappers are fucking OP, guys, I swear. They're like Malazan Marines from Book of the Fallen, except instead of grenades they chuck spears that kill everything instead. Fucking great dudes.
>>487683318Thoroughly enjoying it. The most fun I've had with a historical title since Shogun 2.
Is it worth buying the Troy dlc for Pharoah or no? I just use creamapi on Troy itself, is the diffrence significant enough to care?
why so many versions of non warhammer total war games?you just keep sending spearmen, horsemen, archers and artillery against each other, there's no variationthere's no magic, no guns, no dragons, no monsters, nothing which could make you say "well this is is different"
>2024>total war battles still only have a concede defeat and exit to windows button >no return to main menuDoes CA think this is really gonna stop people from save scumming?
>>487683456No. Troy DLC is in no way compatible with Pharaoh.
>>487683804fool
>Sofia is put on Warhammer>They give all units kill animations like PharaohYou have no idea how kino this would be.https://youtube.com/shorts/j8Ot9HPt6_c?si=HR1OyEQkjIhrJzIE
>>487683804>no magicIf you play factions using magic in warhammer you might as well put on programmer socks and suck some cock.>no gunsThere are plenty of guns in Empire, Napoopan, S2 and FotS.>no dragonI'll give you that.>no monstersElephants have been a thing since Rome 1.
>>487684069this might be too brutal for warhammer, only hischads can handle so much violence
>TALL?!?!?!?!?!?!? >there will be no alliance with ________
TheTerminator really doesn't like this new update. Why do I feel that his complaints are strangely petty?Dude, you are complaining about shit that's been there since Rome 2, at this point it's not a bug, it's a feature.
>>487684218hobbits
>>487683810It's a humiliation ritual. When you click that button you are losing a bit f your dignity with it.
>>487684224At this point, he just wants views for cash.
>>487684224
>high king, this is not the time for being a shitty little retarded manlet bitch!
>>487684495little????
I must reiterate my distaste for war bear ridersthis is unrelated to the fact that I started a new Archaon run and boris gets to field stacks of kossars to support his monstrous cavalry while I have to rely on rng for marauders
>>487684224I'm really convinced that TW ecelebs want to kill historic TW for good. No matter what they will add they will still say it's not enough.
does Achilles have access to baby clubmen? and if yes do they have extra drama against Priam?
I am going to play as Aeneas and kickstart the 0.2v build of Rome and you cannot stop me.
>>487684641Stop being russophobic
Was Troy really a historical kingdom? I always though it was just a mythical realm made up by the Greeks, like Atlantis.
>can barely sustain 31 units between two stacks>negative food>have to trade just to not starve>meanwhile AI factions just casually running around with multiple full stacks and a food surplusI hate this shit so much. This shit has been going on since Rome 2 and its infuriating.
>>487681781>>487681438If you think this is a nerf you're crazy. It's like 80% chance to ignore evasion but you deal 80 magic damage when it happens even against targets without evasion so it's a huge DPS item on a hero with lots of attack speed. Windranger for example.It's no longer just an item that counters evasion, it's also genuinely good on its own.
>>487685232Eh, it's not like the cheating AI is only a problem in TW.
Man, there are so many features in Pharaoh, especially now, that I think are downright amazing. Campaign customization especially is something that should 100% become standard. A shame this game is going to be forgotten and every feature ignored by future entries like Three Kingdom was.
>>487684812For some Historical Total War fans and influencers, the only thing they want is Medieval 3, they seem to hate CA and everything else they do but they are obsessed with wanting Medieval 3 despite how much they seem to dislike how Total War plays noe
>>487685195It was a historical city. That is basically all we know.
>>487614134Those 3D hero portraits mixed with 2D portraits for randoms is going to bother me. I hope you can unify it somehow.
>>487685195According to excavated Hittite records it was a vassal of the Hittite kingdom(called by them Wilusa) that got besieged by someone but it wasn't a epic battle and Hittites sent reinforcements that broke the siege. In fact many scholars believe that the Iliad is a amalgamation of Hittite legends as the actions of Hector in the Iliad directly correspond to Hittite legends about a unrelated prince.
>>487685457Honestly, the only reason I want medieval 3 is just to get a Genghis Khan expansion that allows you to play in Eurasia.
>>487685315It's annoying in historical titles where sides mostly have an even playing field in battle. Obviously it doesn't matter much in warhammer where your LL, magic or faction mechanics can easily balance out AI's cheating.
>>487684861damn why'd they have to do Troy like that?First killing Hector, then killing Priam with his own baby son.What was Achilles so heckin' mad about?
I'LL HAVE THIS WORLD
>>487685837>What was Achilles so heckin' mad about?EVERYTHING!
>>487685439>there are so many features in PharaohBest minor faction to have a classic total war experience?I don't want to spend half my time clicking through court intrigues, religions, laws, underwear color and cake making mechanics. I just want a simple faction where I have to manage my armies, family and economy. Nothing more.>>487685837That's Achilles' son who was a bit of a douche. He's obviously mad his dad died in that war.
>>487685439That's the worst part, the game right now after the Dynasties update is the best historical total war we got in years but it was destined to fail because: Fantasy fans want flashy stuff with monsters and magic, this looks boring to them; some Historical fans just want Medieval 3, everything else is anathema to them; and the base game was so mediocre and forgettable that the mayority of potential players don't even know about the update
>>487652446don't mention it anon
>>487685837His gay lover.Now he's doubly mad once he found out that Pharaoh removed his Amazon from the game.I don't CARE that they are historcally inacurrate. I want my Amazons!
>>487685901you will have nothing archaon you can suck my pickle
>>487685934>Best minor faction to have a classic total war experience?Probably a Canaanite faction where you can ignore most of the royal court mechanics and just go around stomping folks.Also, and I have to check, but I'm pretty sure you can turn off some of the mechanics you were talking about.
Warhammer news next week?
>>487686114Warhammer news is unironically a month from now on the 26th with the 5.2 patch notes.
>>487686053Scariest part is the Canaanites worship Moloch and they outright state in-game they're gonna be sacrificing kids to him.
>>487683008Antiochus...
How is Egypt with this new update? Fun? Asking for a friend.Also, apparently, now you can play as minor factions? How are they and how many are there?
>>487686246Stop with the anti-Semitism anon
>>487685195yeah?
Penthy sweatElspeth breathMiao MilkWardancer Syrup
>>487686425Fun fact: the word "cannibal" stems from Canaanites.
>>487686507what about avelorn sister applesauce?
>>487685457They want a Medieval 3 so that when it inevitably fails to meet their expectations they can finally put total war behind them after years of coping that what TW needs is a "proper" historical game
>>487685195>people just were wholesale deceivers and would make stuff up for some reason across numerous cultures. and correlate certain themes across the myths which relate.Bill Nye tier worldview
Stop with the Moloch slander.
>>487685232change it then
>>487686649What would you choose anons?
>>487685232>have to trade just to not starveHow is this bad?
>>487685837>damn why'd they have to do Troy like that?they violated Xenia, thus deserved everything that happened to them>What was Achilles so heckin' mad about?that was actually Neoptolemus, and he was mad his own father Achilles died in the war
>>487686643To be fair, Romans excelled at making shit up about their history as they went along. When they weren't stealing mythology from Greeks.
>>487685232play a cool and quirky food focused faction and trade for stone and bronze and gold instead
>>487686873because we have to go to fucking bed
>>487686801how do you know that?
>>487686584Dynasties feels like the most proper Historical game we had since Attila, but it's doomed
>>487686758Why is Baal so hated in popculture? He's second only to Hades at being villified for no reason.
>>487686339of course their funthe watching greeks tank your entire army's missile supply and slowly walk up to you to kick your ass type fun>minor factions21 of them, see picthey're fun, especially if you like a good underdog story
Question about Dynasties, but do inter faction marriages have any effect? Like, I know Seti and Taurset start off married. If one of them dies, does the other inherit the kingdom?
>>487686969I am pretty sure they are not descended from Mars and/or a she-wolf.
>>487686873Huh?
>>487687035>for no reason
>>487687212Again, how do you know that?Because your limited view of the world has never let you in on seeing such things?Because the authorities told you they weren't possible?
>>487687187Wouldn't that be too easy? Because all it takes now is to send your hubby on a suicide mission and you inherit his kingdom.I mean, it's historically accurate, but gameplay-wise a bit finnicky.
>>487685281it literally did that WITH a ministun before the nerfits just a nerfholy fuck I am glad I stopped playing
can I or can I not give Taurset the BWC in Dynasties?
I actually played Pharaoh Total War all day as monotheist Alashiya.
>>487686774>me>have to give away vital resources to sustain my army>crippling my ability to recruit more elite units or upgrade my settlements>military still smaller than the dick on a Greek statue>AI>yolo bros here's my fifteen full stacks also I'm swimming in every resource out there lolz>also I have only one province lmao
>>487687294Everything we know about Baal is Roman propaganda created to vilify Carthage.
>>487687461>Wouldn't that be too easy?Somewhat? Not to bring up the forbidden hypothetical game Medieval 3 but it makes sense if they are going to try and actually make the family tree mechanic relevant
>>487687035Hades isn't a malicious god, he is simply the guy who drew the short straw and got the shittiest job, Baal however is a very malicious god, Hades never needed child sacrifices.The true crime is that Hades has been painted as Satan(for a greek), Baal is actually Satan(for a punic).
>>487687714Isn't Baal a god of harvest and fertility and shit?
fuck climate suitability
>>487687823yes, and yet he somehow manages to demand more barbaric practices than the greekoid god of hell.punics are truly barbaric.
>>487687714Baal was a god of weather and fertile crops lol. Child sacrifices was a Roman invention.
>>487687714If anything, it's Poseidon that's actually villainous, when he's not being upstaged by Ares. Because Greeks really didn't like Ares, unlike the Romans.One thing Age of Mythology for instance does right is making Poseidon a bad guy, while Hades is just a chill True Neutral.
>>487688102I love the beef between him and athenaimagine your brother and daughter getting into fights CONSTANTLY
With all this talk of gods, respect to Sofia for actually including Moloch as a hebrew god, I like to think atleast a few players noticed, researched, and realized just what Moloch is and what group worships them.
>everyone came crawling back to pharaohLmfao you don't belong in this community. If you couldn't handle the game at its worst you don't deserve it at its best
smol pp
>>487688000no, it was carthage
>>487688475>AGAGABLOOOOYou do not belong in this community
>>487688298Pharaoh was never bad. It was a psyop created by deranged ecelebs that got a melty after SoC dropped.
>>487688298Eh, I did like Pharaoh at launch, but I was complaning about the lack of scope.I guess that has been adressed.
>>487687493sure, just pick her divorce your brother and they royal marriage a white faction
Bro’s sorry for being late but I just started playing total rome 2 again. i played it at launch but all I remember was the AI being hilariously bad at both the campaign and battles, along with freezes. Did they fix this shit? Like, when I play seleucid, will I at some point have to deal with a huge Rome/carthage? Or are there any mods for this
>>487688698It's all fucking legend's faultWe should break his legs
>>487688287>and realized just what Moloch is and what group worships them.Rich white anglo saxon protestants?
>>487688698The ecelebs only complained after they saw the horrible release numbers. People are just not interested in the time period I'm afraid.
>>487688740>white factionsuch a thing exists in Pharaoh?
>>487688740Oh, right, there is incest in this game.I hope the family tree allows for shenanigans.
>>487687572yes I'm sure it was also the Romans who actually sacrificed all those babies and ritualistically placed their bones in Carthaginian templesimbecile
Imagine how cool Warhanmer with family trees would be.
>>487688740Being Taurset is not the same as what is being asked.We’d have to somehow…. Defeat the brother in battle, killing him, and then marry Taurset as a white faction.
>>487688475Pharaohsisterwives....our response?
I think total war is reaching the limit of their game systems when it comes to lords being unique. Now they simply can't come up with creative enough mechanics to make them feel unique.I dunno how they'd fix this.
>>487688747>Like, when I play seleucid, will I at some point have to deal with a huge Rome/carthage? I am pretty sure that as it is now, as long as you leave Rome alone at the start, it'll end up being a superboss later in the game. Because Rome as a faction is so OP, even the AI can't fuck it up.
>if the attacking force controls TWO victory points you get a morale penalty>it starts applying even though they only control one>lose a perfectly winnable battle because of itNever touching this game again. Rest in piss Pharaoh, glad I only paid 8 dollars for this garbage.
>>487688894I was hoping for it since day one.This and custom LL creator, so you can create your own Chaos lord or some shit.
>>487688894Would it though? Like, only a handful of factions would have it and I imagine it would be kind of a mess.
>>487686339built for anibuian doggy dick
>>487689256Family Tree for the Khorne demons sounds like a fun and creative idea.
>>487686873>Why do history games keep flopping?Because CA forgot what made people like total war in the first place.Power fantasies. People got off on conquering the world. This is what every historical total war has been about until Attila. Simple conquest with some minor campaign management mechanics slapped onto it. Around Attila CA decided conquest should be toned down and the game should be a management sim. The gameplay loop was ruined.Warhammer succeeds due to rocking battles and map painting. Simple as.
>>487689193>ouskilled by AIAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF HISTKEKS
>>487688885No, Romans didnt kill children they only raped them
>>487689307You're fucking retarded if that's what you got from my postGo back to inhaling gas fumes and leave the adults to talk
>>487689389I guess?Honestly, I don't hate the idea of succession mechanics but it would be rather complex. Like population, I can see why they avoided it. Pseudohistory games like Troy, Three Kingdoms, and now Pharaoh have no such excuse.
>>487689474They did kill children. Not for any ritualistic purpose, they just really liked killing stuff.
>>487689440What's soulless about it? It's just the Troy UI but in blue.
>>487689409>History fans like brainlessly pointing the map.Explains why Medieval 2 is still popular.
>>487689598Wrong, Romans founded western civilization by razing entire cultures, enslaving toddlers and writing draconian nonsense laws
>>487688878he looks white to me.
>>487689409The reality is that histoids got filtered by Attila so hard we are feeling the aftershock to this day. Both Rome campaigns in Attila are such a hard filter for Medcucks and Romoids it's not even funny.
>>487689738>Wrong. Romans founded western civilization by razing dogshit cultures, enslaving lesser races and writing based bigbrained rule books.ftfy
>>487689649Med 2 is the most brain dead TW.
>janny just took out the legendschizonow that's a lot of [Deleted] in such a short span of time
>>487689781Attila is probably harder than BI but lets not pretend that TW oldfags are unfamiliar with hard campaigns, Rome 1 players are probably more used to difficult campaigns than any other group, hammiefags play on autopilot. Rome 1 was difficult for everyone except Rome, BI was easy for everyone except Rome, the only people who think Attila was the first Total War game to filter never played BI, never played Numidia and has never attempted an alexander campaign.
3 hours until the outbackjew uploads of Pharaoh video
>>487689915>dogshit culturesOh yeah unlike the kid diddling, multiculti Romans with their bread and circuses and brown Emperors >lesser racesThey were medshits>based bigbrained rule books.That had to be entirely rewritten by Germans centuries later
>>487690162Rome 1 is hypothetically difficult. The issue is that in practice the AI is just so fucking atrocious that no amount of campaign balance matters. Yeah, Rome, and Egypt for that matter, are psychotically powerful. In practice they are still incapable of actually invading you, let alone keeping any kind of offensive momentum going.
>>487686987>Dynasties feels like the most proper Historical game we had since Attila, but it's doomedIts as good as it can be with the limitation of having a setting that nobody cares about
>>487690541>of having a setting that nobody cares aboutThat's every setting other than Medieval and MABYE Rome.
>>487690541It's a buggy, unplayable mess with some of the most unsatisfying battles in the series.
>>487690654lol
>>487690649And renaissance, and Napoleonic, and Victorian, and 30 year war.
>>487690654>some of the most unsatisfying battles in the series.How come the fantasy players aren't all over it? They just autoresolve everything anway
>>487689649Yes. That's exactly what I said.
>>487690649I just think Rome is overplayed, I cannot see how they can justify another Rome game, they have made>Rome 1>Rome 2>Attila>Rome RemasteredThere are more Rome games than Warhammer games, the ones truly deserving of another game are medfags, the ONLY way I can see a Rome 3 is as a flagship for a new engine like Rome 2 was but I feel like the next engine will be 40k, I say all this as a Romaboo histoid.
>>487690763>renaissanceNope, nobody gives a fuck.>NapoleonicGot a bit more appeal, but mostly doesn't work for a Total War game. Which, obviously, they tried.>VictorianFuck no. >30 year war.Also no.
When do you think will be the most likely sale for TWs? I want Three Kingdoms.
>>487690832hehe its funny because fantasy players dont like fun battles xDDDD
>>487690881>I just think Rome is overplayedI agree. Mind you, I think they COULD justify it if they give us a insane level of mechanical overhaul. >the ones truly deserving of another game are medfagsA part of me is tempted to say "No" out of spite. But, frankly, I would like a new medieval game... ASSUMING it had a more global scope and started in the high middle ages. Think Genghis Khan Total War.
>>487690947Total War goes on sale quite regularly, as we speak the Warhammer trilogy is on sale, my guess is the turn based strategy fest in October.Just buy the game from a key site for like a tenner and then cream the DLC
>>487689474Post-natal abortion was very common in both Rome and Greece. It's one of the reasons they regarded Jews as weirdos. Jews weren't allowed to do it so they had families larger than what they could sustain a lot of times. Romans regarded that as savage and irresponsible.
Rome isn't a popular setting. Paradox made a Rome game and it flopped.
>>487691254Because Jewhan put mana in it. He learned his lesson and removed mana from EU5.
>>487691254most paradox games flop.Only HOI, EU and Stellaris have mainstream success with CK and Vic2 as more niche cultish games.
>you can just sell off Helen and get someone like Paris or Diomedes to join your faction for freeI think I might just cuck Menelaus
>>487690914>but mostly doesn't work for a Total War gameNapoopan was great what the hell are you smoking?
>>487691371DON'T YOU DARE!!!
>>487691457Legend said it's shit.
>>487691498I could also divorce Clytemnestra and marry Helen instead...
>>487691639STOP IT!
>>487690914>>renaissance>Nope, nobody gives a fuck.Only 4k players less than Wh3.Renaissance, Age of Exploration, pirates and musket era warfare is very popular. Even Empire total war, despite being dogshit, never getting fixed or given away for free maintains one of the better player counts among total war games.
these are the top 10 best TW games according Steam Reviews#1 Medieval 2#2 Rome 1#3 Pharaoh#4 Warhammer 2#5 Shogun 2#6 Napoleon#7 Empire #8 Shogun 1#9 Rome 2#10 Attila do you agree? disagree?
>>487692083I don't care about popularity. I play Attila regularly. Now I'm playing Dynasties
>>487691745maybe I should send a general down south to make contact with Egypt and sell Helen to Ramses so he's the one to cuck Menelaus...decisions decisions...
>>487691371Can you do some incest shenanigans?
>>487692083Pharaoh is worse than all those games, so no
look I'm just not interested in total war games that don't have cannons. and don't talk to me about being filtered when 90% of this thread can't even figure out how to position their gun units so they can actually shoot. they're not bugged. you put them behind a fucking hill.
>>487647736Hate rats
I got filtered playing Assyria.Hopefully I will have more luck with the futa worshippers.
>>487691964EU is played not because of it being set in the renaissance but because they can play their irrelevant shithole nations when they were semi-relevant. That's why bronze age is cited as a unpopular setting. Because it doesn't foster nationalist retards.
>>487691613he probably hates it because corner camping isn't very good in that game
>shitskin game
>>487692523Filtered how? Perhaps /twg/ can offer advice?
>>487691457>>487690914Anecdotal, but my younger brother only plays 2 games on PC. Football manager (1000+ hours) and Napoleon (500 hours). He refuses to touch any other Total War game. What would you label this group of people?
>>487692523Their units are complete shit. Only the tier V units are worth anything.
>>487692552So in that case a renaissance total war would do well since every single European nationalist + Turks will be able to live out their power fantasies.
>>487692083I disagree, Pharaoh is better than Medieval 2 and Rome 1 and should be first
>>487692714antipharaoh falseflag
>>487692689Of course it would. That's the problem with historical titles in general. There is a very small group of people that care about history and a large one that is interested in playing out their nationalist wet dreams.
>>487692620I just maneuvered myself into a really bad spot. Simply many poor decisions piled up.
>>487692826Upset no one likes your clownsuit aesthetic ancientslop game?
yeah i dont know who this pharaoh chud is but he kinda sounds like a faggot
>>487692826why isn't empire more popular then since it's the only game where you can play as burgers and pajeets? aren't they they main demographics of these threads?
>>487692714Bronze age Egypt in R1 is the funniest thing. Main reason why I can't take people that say it's a historic game seriously.
>>487692341It'd be somewhat accurate to the version of the trojan war where Helen never makes it to Troy and spends her time chilling in Egypt instead.
>>487693164how about Nestor trying to buy her, is that lore accurate?
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>>487693271Every Achaean wanted Helen's pussy (Except Odysseus), that's part of how the whole mess got started.Refuse his offer in favor of an alliance for extra lore accuracy.
>>487693068>nubian spearmen>look like Zulus
>>487693065Empire is very busted as a game, unfortunately. I think an Empire 2 would be pretty popular just on the basis of the game not being fundamentally broken and having a better/bigger map that represents global empires better.
>>487693785what's so broken about it? the only real problems I ran into is town wealth not growing like it's supposed to and occasionally units on the battle map would bug out and become untargetable.
>>487693065It is popular but the game is so shit its fans spend their time begging for a sequel instead of playing.
THE VAMPIRE COASTIS ALL MINE
BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS PLAYING A BETTER GAME
>>487694209>>487694257btfo, there is no coming back (get it?) from that one Luthor schizo
>shitskins cant do math
>>487687035Hebrews.Well it's more complicated than that but the roots are in the old testament.Ba'al in Hebrew basically simply meant lotd and could be applied to many gods.Afaik in the old testament Ba'al was mainly used for the Canaanite equivalent to Hadad and primarily to depict him as a weak and false god. One of the other uses is with Baʿal zəvu (Beelzebub) which in christian theology was considered synonymous with the devil. I think Islam has a similar interpretation.So when ever you needed to depict evil you could just use Baal as stand in for the devil if you wanted an alternative depiction.
>>487690078>antirat post was deletedheh
listen to me chudswe will find your bitchass pharaohand i will blow so many holes in his ugly stupid face he will be called pharholed
>>487693905I don't have a comprehensive list because it's been ages since I've played it, but unit responsiveness and functionality was a problem when I tried it. I remember it being bad in comparison to Med 2 which means it must have been really fucked up at launch
>>487690078QRD? Did he have a complete meltdown or something and jannies banned him?
>>487695089just the usual meltdown over Pharaoh followed by replying to himself pretending to be a "seething histoid" so then he can once again reply to himself and tell his discord buddies how much he's owning the histoids
>>487692826>There is a very small group of people that care about history and a large one that is interested in playing out their nationalist wet dreams.This is one and this same. Historical studies are one of the few Humanities studies that are always majority right wing and male dominated, explicitly for this reason.
>>487691254It's the most popular antiquity setting and game itself was carried by setting hard
>>487693065>Empire >not popularThe game is an absolutely broken mess that barely works half the time. It's still more popular than most total wars that came out since. Rome 2 has the more popular setting, 3 Chinks has the Chinamen playing it while Shogun 2 was given away for free and got a recent spike thanks to the show Shogun.All other games that came out since like Napoleon, Attila, ToB, Troy or Pharaoh are less popular than Empire despite being mechanically much better games.
>game crashedit's overthe bronze age has collapsed
Its going to be pretty hilarious when l*gend eats his words and start streaming Pharaoh.
>>487695938More people watch his streams than play the game so somehow I doubt it.
>>487618770Auto resolve does beat the shit out of you but to me that's a good thingI do wish they implemented the "general can't die unless his unit is lower than 60%" someone mentioned last thread
>>487693065>burgers and pajeets>they main demographics of these threadsPajeets barely play these games. It's mostly Euros and Americans here.
>>487680932Was she actually married to Seti in real life?
>>487691613He said that to ETW but consider napoopan a decent game.
does bronze still exist? it looks beautiful
>>487696830Relative to Empire any game would be, but Napoopan still kind of sucks. Unfortunately, CA never got that time period's warfare right.
By the rivers of Babylon
>>487696938https://youtu.be/WQNxUo0pJM4
YOU WONT BE YAPPING WHEN I SHOVE MY CUTLASS IN YOUR GUTS FAGGOT
I played pharaoh all day
>>487692083That's not how you use reviewsUser reviews are used to indicate how playerbase feels. If they are mediocre (mostly positive on steam) it means that situation is ok. If they are bad (mixed and below) it means that developer pissed off playerbase for some reason. It may be (and often is) completely unrelated to the quality of a game. If they are overwhelmingly positive it means that playerbase is euphoric for some reason, likely developer did something to really please them and suck them off. User reviews are basically a drama detector and that's it.Journalists reviews are utterly worthless. Every single one of them is a shill, they have no expertise in game, series or even genre they usually review and have no time to properly play the game.Indepth reviews by autists who are obsessed with particular genre or series are the only ones of value. They are usually long and you are probably better off doing something rather than watching themUltimately reviews aren't even needed anymore. You don't even need to play the game (or watch the movie for that matter) to know whether something will be good or bad nowadays. Everything is explained and showcased looooong before release. Nothing is surprising anymore. Often it's enough to even watch a nongameplay cinematic trailer and see developers name to know what you will be getting. Total War has a good example of this actually with 3chinkdoms trailer. It was obvious for anyone nonretarded that game will have singular hero units from cinematic alone and thanks to this you could discard or get interested in the game. SM2 is also a good example, because obviously will be a one point better game than original, while still being generic 3rd person action game with cinematic cutscenes you can beat in 10 hours, then fuck around for like 10 hours in pvp/coop after which you forget about it and uninstallFrankly I don't know how can even people get hyped about something anymore, when everything is so obvious nowadays.
>>487695276It's also why historical studies never amounts to anything. You need actual sensible non nationalist readings to learn anything from history.
>>487697075Imagine what it must feel like being clad from head to toe in bronze. Shiny lovely bronze. Fully bronzified and loving it.
>>487696594yes actuallyincestuous marriages were very common in egyptian royalty
>>487614215I have not been in this general since fucking warhammer 2 and jesus christ this made me laugh. Have you been doing this for this whole time my God lmao
iltam sumra rashupti elatim
>>487697021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN3Fmpnoadokino
>>487692083Medieval 2 is actual trash. At least Rome 1 is innovative. Medieval 2 is basically just a reskinned Rome 1 that somehow introduced new glitches and problems.
Cadbury victory
>>487697610Funny how much CA hate Medieval 2.
In Dynasties how much of a difference is there between Major/Minor factions? Are there big Drawbacks for playing the Minor ones?
>>487697439Have you witnessed the tattoo event?
>>487697601That Cat is named Baby Thomas, right?
>>487691964Eu 4 has no real combat. Issue with pike and shot total war is the combat.
WEARE THE PIRATE KING
>>487697661No, please tell me of it
>>487697657not that much, major factions get>unique buildings>more faction units>shemsu hor powers>animated portrait in the main menuthat's the big difference, minor factions just have generic buildings and sometimes unique units but often their faction units are from one or several native rosters
>>487618770Its literally just skill issues, some of may stem from too much Warhammer doomstack brainrot.>Commanders can get 75% shields + dont leave your most important unit to get pincushioned retard, this isnt wh with demigod lords>AI isnt aggressive if you have alliances, stop relying on cucked warhammer solo everything steamroll strategy>Not understanding basic game mechanics with in-game explanations is definite shitter issue>Auto resolve fest isnt fun, but can be tuned in settings. Again shitter issue for someone who just doomstack steamrolls brainlessly>Just have spears against cav they all have charge reflect. Again issue of someone who's used to 80md elites eating backcharges from ai and still winning without casualties>Archers being op in Pharaoh lmao
>>487697653Well they didn't make it.>>487697746>Issue with pike and shot total war is the combat.People sure loved S2 or playing Greeks in Rome 2.
that's interesting
>>487698119Phrasing...
>>487698119You also get huge upkeep reductions if your are a small kingdom.
>>487697979Greeks in Rome 2 sucked unless they were part of the Hellenistic culture group, and Shogun 2 wasn't really pike and shot.I'd love a 30 years war game but it would depend on how much CA is willing (and able) to completely overhaul the game's combat mechanics and AI to accommodate it, or we will just get an Empire situation again where shit does not work and feels awful to play.
So are the arranged marriages only some random waifu, or can you negotiate with other factions for a waifu from them?
>>487698794go to the diplomacy tab, there's a look for single ladies button on the bottom right
>>487697976How do I into alliances?
>>487698508Shogun 2 is absolutely what pike & shot would look like if made for a total war game.Every European faction would field stacks of basic pikemen and hangunners. Rodoleros, two-handed swordsmen, grenadiers, cavalry and so forth would be specialized troops tied to buildings like all the samurai variants in S2. This only applies to the western Euros of course. Ottomans, Poland, Russia, Persians, Indians, Berbers and China if the map goes far enough east will be using completely different rosters and tactics.
>>487698794>women only get depicted in silly artworkWow why is CA Sofia so misogynistic?
>>487697610Medieval 2 is by far the best Total War, one of the best strategy games ever made and has no flaws.>>487697180History is pure nationalism and is shaped and told by it>>487690881>There are more Rome gamesIt's worse than this, there was nothing but antiquityslop since Rome 2, even their chink games about chink antiquity. If not for Warhammer there would be nothing worth playing in Total War since fucking Napoleon
>>487697180Which happens all the time from accredited historians. Please read real history books
Why are Phoenix guards mute?
>>487698794>>487698986I also missed this the first timehere's how you find a proper wife
>>487700550They must be more retarded than Kroxigors
>>487698794>18 year old chosen one>groomed by a genius 24 year old womanhm...
Is Pharaoh ACTUALLY goodNo bullshitNo copingNo "it's getting better"Is it good?
>>487700952Yea.Here’s my official historical total war ranking:Medieval 2Rome 2Pharaoh
Playing as the Sea-people are there any reason not to settle down when you find somewhere cozy? I wouldn't mind just raiding and razing my way to some nice corner or island
>>487700952it was always good, you let legendoftotalniggerworship psyop you.
>single unit stack attacks my besieging army>battle map>city in front of me>reinforcements from behind>assume city garrison will come from the city>actually only the single enemy unit comes from the city>the city garrison is reinforcing the battle and is spawning behind meI just got out-skilled so hard by esoteric Mesopotamian logic.
>>487700952It's excellent
>>487701243You can’t be blamed, that makes no sense
How do I let my general in on the action and not get deleted in Pharaoh?
>>487701458You can turn on the option for immortal leaders I think?
Alright this shit better be good or I won't trust you faggots ever again
>>487644139>overhauled the battle system with lethality (every entity has 1 hp so they can get instakilled)That's not how it works retard
Medieval 2 is a master class in Total War
>>487682457It really isn't. Troy had the mythos stuff and the campaign dynamics were completly different. They just used the assets toeto expand factions that historically had little to no records.The Trojan war would have taken place Lil 200 years before the starting date of this game.
>>487701679>he bought
>>487701679>He bought
>>487701679>he fell for the shill campaign hereCome back to /twg/ in a month and the shills will be shilling something else.
>>487701679
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3296563508bros the cheater in me is considering restarting since im only 17 turns in
>>487701679>we got another onelel
>>487701679Well you managed to get 4 replies in just as many minutes form our resident schizo and isn't that what it's all about?
>>487701679it is actually fun that what you do on the battlefield matters instead of sending your superhero to tank the enemy army while you shoot them to death with magic/artillery/bows/guns
I need more matched combat to show up during battle in Pharaoh.
>>487701679>dump eet
>>487701164You a sea people not a corner or island people.
>>487701164The sea people royal path has a settle vs nomad scale so you can
>>487699893>Braindead nationalists like reskinned Rome 1Not suprising.
>>487701679>he bought ze dip
>>487697979>Shogun 2Most of them don't play long enough to unlock guns.>Greeks in Rome 2Greeks in rome 2 are fun because your main enemy is not other greeks.
Brogan Stanley reviewed Pharaoh.
They did the Bogadoff stuff when I bought Warhammer 3.
>>487702453You're as bad as the schizo is by sperging out about anons making jokes.
I WILL END YOU YOU INBRED DOG
too many schizos in 1 threadshut it down janny
>>487703208>he bought
Official food to Pharaoh Campaign ranking:Egypt: teriyaki chicken with rice and chick peasHittites: warm apple oatmeal that makes me feel like maybe there is some sort of far off Elven land that I miss. Makes me not want to do any bad things anymore.Canaanites: Spicy garlic chicken wingsMesopotamian: Anchovy pizzaAegean: Gyro with lamb
ummm no Ra does not shine above you
>>487702874Plenty of people played Otomo who start with guns.>>487703208>he bought wh3
LUUUUUUUTHOOOOOOOR HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARKOOOOOOOOOOON
>>487703571What a thoughtful ranking system
Imagining the sweet sweet seethe which will occur when halflings are announced.
>>487704030Why? Halflings are based and it’s a shame the Moot doesn’t have a unique halfling garrison.
>>487703571>google "hittite food" out of curiosity>"Hittites loved bread and had recipes for as many as 180 types of bread in different shapes and with varying ingredients"
using the court mechanics I recruited Trojan Nobles to serve in Agamemnon's armyI thought it'd be funny
I like the vibe of the Hittites, but damn, which one do they believe to be their creator god? I play monotheist so what I do is just pick only the Creator God of the pantheon and leave the other 2 spots empty.May have to become Hatti king with El as patron. I guess that could be fine.
El seems to be the only creator god included in this game.
>>487704665Kurunta is the only god you should worship and pay as.
bros i cant help it i increased the lethality of javelins because they just feel inferior to bows in every scenario
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>Send my Milita in on the first battle with Assyria>They were deleted so fucking fastLuckily cavalry saved the day due to my other defender unit.
>>487704665Arinna?
>>487705410armor is king in this game so the unarmored peasants are skavenslave tier
Warhammer 3 is all a man can ever want.
this is the goddess of sex, using her divine powers to deduce the length of (You)r penis
>>487705843I don't play games with trans characters.
>>487705746Yes except they were deleted in less than 15 fucking seconds before I was able to do anything.
>2d unit icon option>Family tree always uses the 3d modelHuh?
>>487706786i assume you mean this battle and not the assyria minor factionyou start with 2 archers and a general with really strong composite bows so you should not even send anything in because you have massive ranged advantagethis is on veteran/veteran
The Walwetes seems pretty fucking neat. Any tips for where to expand beyond the region you start in? Currently I am just loitering and fighting until Turn 3 where I can settle their capital
>"milday!">already deadDo French players really?
>>487618770>warhammer babs having a meltdown when the game isn't about mindlessly steamrolling for 10 hours
>in the grim dark past there is only rats
>>487709431hit their minor settlements first, very easy to take if they don't have a stack sitting on it
>>487705232It’s okay. Black bar is a bit weird.>>487710535This but unironically. I have spent too much time playing warhammer and shogun 2.
>>487614134>Add dynasty mechanic>Absolutely useless timewaster because you finish conquering the map within 1 generationWhy even bother pretending this matters? You will never see 20 years pass in Pharaoh and have a child grow from baby to man and assume leadership over your dynasty when the family head dies; you'll just adopt a random general because he'll still be a child when you get killed off in battle or die from random old age, unless you have an adult heir at the game start.
>>487710697>Black bar is a bit weird.It's 2 screens, retard
>>487710975> you'll just adopt a random generalTrve Medieval 2 experience right there.
>>487710975gee, almost as if they specifically added an option to change how fast characters age if you felt it was too fast or too slow
>>487710975modders will fix it.
>>487710975The whole campaign is customizable dishonest-senpai, just speed up the character age rate.
>>487710975Bold of you to assume all leader are 18 at the start of the game. Many of them are so old they will be dead by turn 20.
>>487710975Just like in... other total war games. It was a personal challenge for me to conquer the entire map with each original starting Daimyo on legendary.
>>487693905The core problem I remember is that in every single battle the first thing the AI will do is run their general directly into your gunline and get him killed. The AI also cannot form a basic musket line and will just mass charge you instead of trying to fight a proper battle.
Epidemius strengths:High health poolDurable statsArmour-piercingPowerful army buffsUseful factionwide effectsProficient at eliminating infantrySummons Exalted PlaguebearersEpidemius weaknesses:Extremely slowA Herald of Nurgle with no spellsSimply can't compare to the other 2 Nurgle lords in battle
>>487700774>could have had based stoic lizardmen>got retarded animalistic lizardmen insteadFucking hate CAFucking hate secondaries
>>487696272that is already in the game but the lethality mechanic ignores it for some reasonabove 50% health general automatically survives the battle
>>487710617Is this from one of the 2000s games?
>>487710975>refuses to open campaign customizationsucks to be you
>>487713146Yes! A game from 2000 + 23.
fantasoys on suicide watch
>Fucking hate CA>Fucking hate secondaries
>>487714096I am unsure if ethnic minorities play Total War.
has the pharao playercount reached four digits yet?
it is this schizo cunt with pictures of picaninnies playing with plastic dinosaurs again
the ikit dlc ruined the game
Its over... the ruthless business outbackjew has made the call...
>>487714170It reached 6000, yesterday. Their previous record was 4000.
how do I do that?all my quests are dogshit so maybe this one is possible to do..
>>4877137972023?! Is it a remake or a "remaster" or something? Or is the appeal to look like one of the first games?
>>487714351I was offered adoption by the king of Assyria once. Thought that was some scam and rejected it.
>>487714298
>wh3 peak is 166k>kang peak is 6kits over for fantasy
>>487714351nvm you just ask them kindly in diplomacy
>>487714516Told you guys he wouldn't do it. He wants to make money and the only way he's making some is cheesing Wh3 for his fans.
>>487714516Basically he'll only play warhammer and games made before Attila.
>>487714725He basically says in the post that he won't play it and it isn't worthy of praise because it didn't sell as many copies as warhammer
>>487714516>only a finite amount of time in the dayso this nigga will just spend another 12 hours per day abusing AI in warhammer. wow time really well spent>some other channels aren't covering it eitheryes because they jumped on the hate band wagon to squeeze a few outrage bucks from the game as they didn't expect a comebackno one cares about this faggot though lol
>>487714725Or games where he gets paid to play them like Crusader Kings 2. If CA wanted to shill Pharaoh they'd just have to hand a sack of money to Legend.
>reached 74k playercount alreadyoh no no no no save me legend
she sure has lots of children..
>>487715091>plap plap plap
>>487715316>>487715316>>487715316
>>487715091>black>mutts>white
>>487715091>brother-husband and sister-wife>non-stop pregnancy
>>487714516How much more pathetic can you get?
>>487682323arent dwarfs game 2?
