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Melina sucks off beastmen in the Limgrave forest edition

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Previous
>>489852819
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>>489913410
>Melina sucks off beastmen in the Limgrave forest
Prove it.
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I wish to become Mohg's consort
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Selene simps where we at?
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Honeyed rays of gold,
Deliver my spirit...
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>>489913625
Selene?
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>>489913692
Autocorrected :(
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Why are Shogh and Shogott so cute?
I want to read a manga about their antics in the royal palace and their troubled lives as young omen.
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>>489913343
I think Radagon is pretty fucking cool, sadly everything about him was cut.
>Sword of Night and Flame was made when they married to be symbolic of the time when astrologers and Fire Giants lived together as neighbours
>Gave a gift to Marika made of glintstone (iirc)
>Helped Miquella build his tree house giving him albinaurics (when the lore was that they were made by the academy) and knights, also the obvious radagon's ring of light
Unfortunately in the end product he doesn't really do shit. So Ranni wins 100%.
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>didn't play the Elden Ring DLC because it looks too hard
>didn't enjoy Elden Ring as much as I could have because it was too hard without magic
>refunded Armored Core 6 because it was too hard
>didn't play Sekiro because it looked too hard
>didn't play the DS3 DLCS because they looked too hard
>didn't enjoy DS3 because it was too hard
I've been playing these games for 10 years and I only like Dark Souls 1 because it's comfy and easy
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>>489913817
Are you old bro
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>>489913410
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>>489914003
yes, I'm 26
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>>489913626
whenever i see the gate of divinity i can't help but notice its design looks so perfect for cradling a dripping eclipse in its negative space
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>>489914041
That's not old that's my age...
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>>489913817
But Elden Ring is easy. Cragblade build is fun
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>>489914005
basado
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Anybody able to carry me through Auriza Hero's Grave? Specifically just killing the double Crucible knights?
There's no way in fuck im doing it at RL 23 and +0.
Pass is erg
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>>489914201
you're old buddy
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>>489914201
>>489914041
>dilfs ITT
DADDY DADDY DADDY AAAAAAAAAAH
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>>489913817
maybe you should stick to animal crossing
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>is 28
Uh oh…
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>>489914298
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>>489913817
>>489914041
Ojisan...
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>>489914201
The grave looks real comfy right now

>>489914203
I always use a big sword, and Elden Ring seems to hate big sword users. I just dumped a few points in arcane for the toxic breath magic when I just wanted a boss to fuck off out of frustration. I used it a lot.
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>>489913786
I just posted this
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>>489913817
why no mention of ds2?
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>>489914041
>>489914387
Old...
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>>489914298
be normal

>>489914332
haven't owned a nintendo console since the original DS

>>489914537
because this was about difficulty, and I didn't like DS2 because it was ugly and boring and horribly designed, but also easy as piss
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I’m about to be 24 next month if anyone even cares
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>>489914774
Are you a girl
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>>489914774
Are you a boy
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>>489914774
Are you a bitch
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>be 34
>just found out my fucking shoe size grew 1.5 sizes in the last 6 years
>watching sodium intake.

Let me tell you little faggots something.. ER is way easer than any souls game, and the FF7 remake is not FF7. Its fetish B8 for pedos who wanna fuck Yuffie. IN MY FUCKING DAY, WE... I mean I got some Timberland Pros and they feel great.
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>>489912275
>is their Spiral magic coming from same source as the Crucible ones?
>spiral
picrel
I've been wondering if the spiral stuff is linked to DNA, which would explain the Crucible's weird mutations.

>>489912990
For the record. This anon is correct. I linked the olympic pics to prove to another anon that it makes sense for Leda to have a thick neck and the other anon or some other psycho went off the deep end rather than admit they were wrong.
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>>489914852
No
>>489914876
Yeah
>>489914932
Maybe
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I'm 31 incel wizard.
I play 80 faith tree spear
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>>489914774
Old...
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>>489914259
please...i need a hero...
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>>489915197
>>489914954
Old...
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>>489913817
I miss DS1, too, anon.
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>>489914259
>>489915225
Why are you at Auriza's at RL23 and +0??
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>powerstancing weapon
>1074 damage
>Two-handing weapon with the two-handing talisman
>768 damage
Whats like the point even
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>>489915470
Trying to get crucible armor as fast as possible and forgot it's the double knights in this one, otherwise id do it myself
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>>489915546
higher poise damage and higher hyper armor.
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>>489915546
Moveset
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>Average INT player
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>>489915546
Weight
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Today I learned that the Dancion Lion grab attack puts you a debuff that heals the boss if you drink your Crimson Tears Flask.
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>>489915036
Thick necks are ugly now shut up retard, your link was also full of ugly women.
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>>489915701
Im not telling you that, Im not fat its just not relevant
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>>489915546
don't listen to those retards
bigger number = better
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I’m 32
Running a cragblade build on my third character
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>>489915689
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I'm not telling you my age you FBI agent
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>>489913817
I'm 34 and I think you're a bitch. None of these games are hard.
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ong this pvp fire frfr
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>>489915848
Turdblade on your thurd character hahaha
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Alright /erg/, dust has settled. What are your DLC weaponfus, that you find yourself coming back to again and again? For me it's:
>Smithscript Daggers and Cirques
>Spirit Glaive
>Beast Claws (offhand especially)
>Falx
>Spear of the Impaler
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I want to squeeze Malenia's crapper until she rips a fat brapper
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>>489913625
..... I like ER too but... Feet hinges? dolls? The only thing I might ever get is an Alexander mug, because mug.

>>489915317
Found the Yuffie fucker. You will never have sex with a 16 yo Japanese girl who is put into a game for no reason.

>>489916065
>If the feds find out how old I am, they will steal my organs!!! its impossible to find out my age........
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>>489916160
that's not elden ring tho
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>>489916160
Hes hacking but u know that
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>>489916249
I love using the daggers to be a bitch and like run around the arena and throwing them into people to whittle them down
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>>489916326
shut up glownigger you'll never get me
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>AVERAGE INT PLAYER
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>>489916528
What does this mean?
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>>489913410
opinion on this? pve or pvp
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>>489916542
>
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>>489916718
its unusable because you need to land a hit for it to pay off and radahn doesn't doesn't let you land a hit
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>>489916718
>PvE
SOVLkino
>PvP
sloppadroppa
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>>489916718
best thing about the dlc hands down and if its not built in part of your kit going forward From deserves to go bankrupt for being retarded
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>>489916861
I really wish it like did like poise damage or something to npcs if you did it successfully so they'd eventually stagger if you kept deflecting
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>>489917217
yeah that would be good but that would make the game too good.

Also they're hiding the poise bar which should be visible. The world is trending towards more visible stats instead of less.

They hate sekiro mechanics and only add them to the game half heartedly
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>>489916718
Very fun to use, even if the implementation isn't as good as in Sekiro and LoP. I need it to be a core mechanic in the next game.
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>average INT enjoyers
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>>489914259
>erg not willing to go underleveled as fuck and fight an annoying ass boss to help a brotha out
pshh..
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>>489916163
Haha…
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>>489917371
>forcing you to track a bar instead of play by feel
Fuck no
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>>489913410
I wanted to post but I saw this coomer OP and I want you to know that you're a porn addicted faggot

Slow it down
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>>489916249
Fire knight greatsword
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>>489918261
This
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>AVERAGE STR ENJOYER
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>yo this pvp is bussin fr
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>>489918678
Looks like those zoomers playing cod or CS.
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>>489918678
>Somebody posts the rules to that tournament
>Every single tool you could use to frame trap is banned
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>>489914259
pc?
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How much str do I need to shield poke radahn to victory?
Just the minimum amount that SHOULD work?
I need to respec for that
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>>489916861
> radahn doesn't doesn't let you land a hit
Scrub detected, i literally beat radahn with only guard counters and hardtear.
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>>489919029
Just use the carian poke shield with greatshield talisman and shield grease/magic shield.
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>only one gravity-boosting staff in the game
>can't be upgraded
MIYAZAKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>489918380
>AVERAGE STR ENJOYER
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>>489918942
YEA
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>>489919287
You can get 2 of them by duping for 69% boost
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>>489919459
give me a minute and i'll send my sign
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SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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What build will you never play? For me it's faith because I am an atheist and don't meed the help of some phony god.
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>>489919813
for me, it's Marika
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>>489918771
>tfw Empyrean women are unimpressed with us
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>>489914954
There's literally nothing wrong with wanting to fuck Yuffie. She's just as valid a choice as Aerith or Tifa...
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>replaying the dlc
>Realise how much of a slog it is to get to midra and the death knights again due to the catacombs
Damn and I like those fights
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>>489919884
full caster
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There's 5 versions of weapons
>daggers
>swords
>greatswords
>light greatswords/halberds
>colossal swords
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>>489919884
int
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Tell me about the enemies Morgott/Margit defeated.
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Anyone else think we should have gotten Frenzied sorceries or something?

Midra seemed like an intellectual—but at the same time intelligence doesn’t seem to be a good mix with madness.
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>>489916249
black steel great hammer
great katana
carian thrusting shield
freyja's greatsword
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>>489920362
Ra*ahn :^)
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>>489919884
I haven't been able to commit to a full dex build since DS3. I always end up pivoting into primarily faith/int or respeccing to a strength build halfway through the game.
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>>489920442
Silly anon, knowing too much can lead to madness.
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>>489918380
This better not be a Foxhole meme
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>>489920671
Full dex legitimately seems pointless you are just wasting the cast speed portion of the stat
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>>489916249
I've got a Perfumer build going and I just got my animal themed guy to the dlc and acquired the beast claws.
On my main I used a lot of the Ancient Meteoric Ore greatsword and the Sunflower
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>>489920442
>intelligence doesn’t seem to be a good mix with madness
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>>489920442

We should have gotten more Frenzy expansion in general. We got a glorified Emote disguised as an incantation, Pots, and a consumable tool that does...something? I don't even know because people standing right in font of the thing don't get hit.

Look I get that Frenzy grease/weapon buff would not be fun to deal with on a lot of weapons; but work it like the blackflame weapon buff, have it only last like 5 seconds. It's all you need anyway. Why the fuck does SLEEP GET TWO VERSION REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Beyond ass madness'd
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Does weapon range matter?
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Why is the vagabond knight so cool?
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lol
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>no crescent moon sorceries
>no frenzied sorceries
>no bubble sorceries
>no rot sorceries
>no crystallian sorceries
>no primeval sorceries

In-general, sorceries could have gotten a lot more love this dlc
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>>489919884
Probably pure dex or full caster. All my builds are some variant of knight with a greatsword.
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behold the power of the lord of frenzied flame
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>>489921320
Yes if you're min/maxxing and looking for as much edge as you can get in order to poke things without getting poked
No because theme builds/fun > weapon stats
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Frenzy sorceries would not require INT as understanding the Frenzied Flame is indistinguishable from worshiping it, or falling into its clutches.

At best, a mix of INT and FTH.
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>>489921628
kek
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I only ever use the base weapons and armor you get at the start of the game.
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>>489920967
Sheogorath my favorite daedric bloke
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>>489921465
He got dat rizz
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>>489921549
elden ring could have gotten a lot more love this dlc*
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>couldn't parry crucible knights because of latency
>scaling made my damage bad
>anon didn't summon me again
it's over...
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>>489920362
what was the first defense? gransax attacking?
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>>489922287
Im amazed you even showed up the second time for this cancer lmao
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How do I cancel colossal sword r1 recovery? The animation takes longer to get out of than the fucking guardbreak riposte animation. I wanna be able to actually punish some one dumb enough to block an UGS swing.
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Are you guys using any texture/remodel mods?
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>>489916249
FKGS, it just can't be beat.
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>>489922390
the golden lineage (godefroy, godrick) trying to do a coup
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int has become extremely boring with those blue rocks.

faith gets everything and all kinds of cool stuff like fire, rot, hornsent spells etc and int gets more blue rocks
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DS1 style bronze age soulslike fromsoft kino WHEN?
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>>489923139
No, because I play online. All I use is ReShade.
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>>489923139
Most of the people here play for pvp, meaning no mods.
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>>489923307
prompt?
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Redmane Freyja you STUPID FUCKING WHORE YOU DARE STEAL MY RIPOSTE FOR YOUR MEASLY 800 DAMAGE?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
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If you had a sufficiently powerful alien AI on hand, capable of making the perfect video games by mashing them together, how would you mix Dark Souls lore in with Elden Ring lore?

Who would come first? Marika or Gwyn?
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>set summon sign to near/far
>get summoned in nokron
>host wants to kill mimic tear I guess
>sprint to boss room
>host enters
>me and other summon enter
>host hides in the back of the room as the other summon wails on his mimic
>realize the host wanted to be carried
>run over to him
>summon dies in the meantime
>drop a frenzy flamestone on the host
>he starts running
>grab the mimics agro
>bring it to the host
>he keeps running
>eventually realizes I'm not on his side
>pulls out his trust bloodhound sword
>gets two tapped by the mimic
>I clap emote over his corpse
I refuse to carry lazy hosts.
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>>489923903
Why would I mix both of them together this doesn't make sense
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>>489919884
Guts berserk, I don't full STR
Rarely full DEX too, only for bow-only
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>ON THE FIRST DAY MAN WAS GRANTED A SOUL. AND WITH IT CLARITY.
>ON THE SECOND DAY UPON EARTH WAS PLANTED AN IRREVOCABLE POISON.
>A SOUL-DEVOURING DEMON.
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>>489923982
Ancient Dragons exist in both. A ton of shared ideas and concepts in all of their games. In theory, you should be able to combine them all into one big mega game.
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>>489923936
>needing to be carried through fucking mimic tear
jesus fucking christ HOW? JUST FUCKING UNEQUIP YOUR WEAPONS AND THEN EQUIP A WEAPON ONCE IT SPAWNS. HOW CAN YOU BE THAT FUCKING BAD?
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>>489923936
who the fuck would summon for mimic tear
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Does destined death really kill the soul? or is it just freeing them from reincarnating on the erdtree
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>>489923936
whats worse, summoning on mimic tear or dying to mimic tear
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>>489921465
most versatile
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>>489923903
Isn’t Marika just a female Gwyn? Her son is even named GodWYN. Seath would be some sort of primeval dragon.
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He is so glowy...
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>>489924217
Summoning, because it implies he's already died to it.
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Oh that's what's going on, dsg killed fsg and are now bored
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>>489924142
The mausoleums imply being reborn is still possible so idk
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>>489924297
That is a woman.
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>>489923903
>If you had a sufficiently powerful alien AI on hand, capable of making the perfect video games by mashing them together
If I had that I wouldn't use it to mix Dark Souls lore with Elden Ring lore. I would use it to create more content for Elden Ring.
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>>489924112
>>489924115
>>489924217
I imagine it was some normie who's a complete shitter and thought he'd be clever getting randoms to beat the boss for him. I had something similar happen earlier today where I got brought into the haligtree and the host was hiding as a lamp while baiting in invaders. Frenzy flamestones really are the best deterrent for a scumbag host
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>>489924297
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>>489924272
They're both gods but Marika is way more powerful overall. Her age would last forever if the didn't corroborate with Ranni's assassination ploy. Gwyn's age of fire needed more fuel every so often.
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>>489924297
Wonder if his bussy glows too
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>>489924813
I mean, the Erdtree stopped producing sap. Something would happen eventually.
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>>489917992
>>489918380
What do STR/INT enjoyers look like?
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>>489924946
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>>489913410
How much better are the tier 2 dragon breath incants for invasions are they worth the extra 8 point investment. Wanna try them for invasions.
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>>489918678
Which pvp was better: ER or DS3?
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>>489923936
>>489924759
Anon, who hurt you? This is a lot of salt towards people just playing a game
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>>489925093
there's no 1h30m long duel in elden ring
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>>489925093
ds3
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>>489925093
Dark souls 2.
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>>489924813
Gwyn at the start of the Age of Fire would spank Marika, lmao.
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>>489925093
somehow still elden ring
ds3 is just that awful
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>>489925090
i imagine being able to cast in the air is better when it comes to avoiding damage
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>>489924946
>What do STR/INT enjoyers look like?
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>>489925282
Peak Godfrey would just suplex his ass.
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>>489921320
>Oh no the other guy brought a longer stick, I have to press L2 and lunge 20m forward making range irrelevant
Ashes mean weapon range doesn't matter outside of the most autistically minmaxed and Smashbros-tier rules restricted arena duels in the world
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>>489925093
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>>489925436
how the fuck is vivec str at all
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>>489925093
Elden ring
DS3 is riddled with gay faggot truecombo shit and running poke weapons
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>>489924008
How the FUCK did Miura get away with this?
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>>489925705
he didn't, he died
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>>489925525
>spear that represents his penis
>a shield
>Warrior-poet
Does it look like DEX to you
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>>489925705
Seinen manga seinen magazine, lolicon artist
You do the math
Cosine has her pussy slit drawn on in a page or two too I think. I wish she could've survived to be in lesbians with her friend.
No nipples since the new crew picked up berserk I think, it's over
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>>489925282
They wouldnt fight they would have sex and make powerful god babies
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>>489925824
yes actually, a penis-spear screams dex
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So nobody summons in the weeping peninsula or am I retarded?
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>>489926108
Rude...
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Since Elden Ring is set during a medieval period it's safe to assume all the girls are unshaven. Even Roderika and Melina have curly stinky ass hairs.
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>>489926001
>I wish she could've survived to be in lesbians with her friend.
She wanted to fuck Guts
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>>489925093
DS3 has better multiplayer systems and overall balance, but the absolutely horrific builds are more annoying than the worst stuff in Elden Ring. Many more weapons were absolutely worthless or clearly, objectively outclassed by their peers. R1 R1 and pseudo-combos were the law of the land. The arena sucked.

ER has a much wider variety of viable weapons, spells, and ashes, but multiplayer systems are nonexistent and invasions are full of subhumans who exploit advantages designed to give clueless hosts a chance. Low level invasions are infested with password phantoms, high level invasions devolve into projectile spam because every build (even pure STR or DEX builds) has access to cheap, effective projectiles. The arena sucks.

I love both games, but for whatever reason I prefer ER because it's easier to make funny builds and just have fun with them. I just wish it had real multiplayer systems.
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>>489926114
only to gang rape Rannala (in the ass) but I just remember that and sum hunter summons, which are ok because there is usually not a lot of difficult terrain and you can get to the fight easy.
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>>489926163
Why would that matter? You don't fuck a girl's asshole
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>>489926114
it's very hard to be summoned there even at rl25
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>>489926190
Oh yeah
Still
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>>489926318
>Still trying to police what men are allowed to be attracted to
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>most characters try to kill you on site.

Are we the bad guys?
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>>489926163
I like to imagine at least some of them trim their pubes if not full-on shaved them off
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>greatest questline in all of elden ring has an npc show up twice while you climb a mountain then join you to fight a big dragon
>less than 2 minutes of dialogue total
Seriously, how did they screw up the quests so badly that a big moby dick reference is the greatest narrative part of the game? I dislike dark souls 3's story (and it's rollslop focus) but it still has better quests than elden ring
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>>489926221
Most ER pvp I've seen is either "how do I stack 5 buffs to oneshot the host before his phantoms can kill me with their oneshots" or "how do I lure the host to this cliff so I can pull out the Radahn swords to shove him off"
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>>489926975
That's tru- *hits you with r1 into r1 and backs off" e but st- *hits you with a running attack poke* ill I think tha- *hits you with another r1 into r1 into a truecombo*t elden ring is still cooler
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>>489926849
fromsoft can't into making stories
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>>489924297
glowniggers
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>>489927115
Don't need combos when you can do 1300 damage per L2
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>>489926648
yes the Tarnished are marikas personal glownigger army
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>>489927461
your l2 pops my Tears of Denial TM and I hit you with an unlocked 360 charged R2 poke
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>>489927642
Ah but you forgot that the L2 hits like 4 times so the Tears doesn't matter
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>>489925282
wrong, all he can do is chuck lightning bolts and swing his whack ass sword around, meanwhile fucked up half broken radagon slaps spells away no issue. marika would bend gwyn over
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>>489913786
>Royal Palace
They lived in the sewers with the rats and basilisks
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>>489926975
This is why I mostly watch Saint, he still plays it like DS3 (even though this is often a terrible idea)

>>489926849
I think it's interesting how diametrically opposed the design of Igon's the the followers of Miquella's quests is.
>Igon
You encounter Igon, wonder "What's up with him?" and then move on. The next time you encounter him, it's directly in the player's path through Jagged Peak, and you actually do something to cause this encounter (defeating the two drakes). You're given a little bit of actual exposition about who he is and what he wants, and the next time you encounter Igon is summoning him for Bayle's fight, where he has unique behavior and greatly enhances the atmosphere of the fight with his dialogue. Clear, consistent connection between narrative and gameplay.
>every Miquella follower quest
Go here. Exhaust dialogue. Rest at grace because you don't know whether you exhausted their dialogue and they're going to do something. They move to an area of the map that you may or may not have already progressed past. Exhaust dialogue. Teleport to top of storehouse. Teleport to bottom of storehouse. Teleport to top of storehouse again. It's awful.
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>>489927974
Miquella is megaforced in this DLC somehow
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>>489926648
I mean, objectively speaking you are pretty mentally ill.
>Be you
>Be Elden Ringing
>Break into Ranni mom house
>Beat the shit out of her ma
>Find out where Ranni lives
>Break into her house multiple times
>Probably kill her dogs multiple times too
>She ran away
>Get her dragon to guard the door this time
>You kill it too
>"You are my waifu now"
>"I bet she thinks of me fondly with affection"
>"By the way all your friends mysteriously keeled the fuck over and i killed this guy because i think he was gonna betray you but it is okay because you got me now"
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>>489928136
>>Get her dragon to guard the door this time
>>You kill it too
Not my problem, she could have introduced me to the dragon like she did for everyone else at any time, I can only assume she wanted the dragon dead
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>>489926648
>>489928136
Why can’t most of the shit going on the lands between be solved with sex? Or at least therapy?
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>>489928645
Either Radagon or Rennala wrote this post
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>>489928706
Hey, either one can go a long way
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>>489927974
Yep. Fromsoft is obviously afraid of having a sequence of exposition or whatever... but the dlc needed one. It's not like they're completely opposed - the ranni quest has a bit where you're actually outright forced to talk to ranni, blaidd, seluvis, and iji and can't leave. There should've been a cutscene where you meet them and get all their vibes. It took me a while to figure out what the fuck a hornsent was because the one in the miquella gang was outright called 'hornsent'. And obviously after that make the quests actually good instead of... "Yeah you have to skip this bit and find this guy and ask this guy and also don't kill any of the pests". The closest the miquella quest got to actually enthralling me was the fact that hornsent would join you to fight messmer and had lots of dialogue for it. That was cool, he had a very clear idea of what he wanted. Vs leda and moore and shit. I do like that you can thin out the herd of the gank fight early and the idea of it being influenced by your quest is actually cool, even if the execution is bad.
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>>489928927
george said he'd beat miyazaki to death if he tried to puss his shit with ranni or something idk
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>>489925093
ER has the second best PvP in the series after BB.
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I wish Poopa was here to have an autistic fit over anyone enjoying Elden Ring PvP
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>>489914072
In my head canon i claimed it for the Frenzied Flame Saron tyle
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>>489873984 #
They do realize, but the cuckoos will destroy the other bird’s eggs if they don’t cooperate.
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>>489914072
Wait a minute, that silhouette...
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I wish I was the "frothing degenerate" Sellen complained about
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I can't bring myself to play another second of this game.
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I'll die mad thinking that Godwyn should've been the focus of the DLC. Not saying "uhh durr instead of Radahn and Miquella on his back it's Godwyn with Miquella on his back!" this shit will look retarded regardless of who's there.
The Erdtree obviously represents life so it's weird counterpart should represent death. Instead of treating the place as the underworld they decided to make it some real™ land that was sealed off
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>>489930851
It's pretty clear that their ambitions for the DLC far outstripped their time allotment so they had to cut and adjust a bunch of stuff.
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>>489930846
okay
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>>489930851
To me at least it's pretty obvious the whole lands between was the afterlife, but Marika or someone else (probably marika though) seperated the shadow realm and trapped that as the afterlife world of the deathbirds and the like (who sometimes escape into the lands between) while the erdtree has it's own isolated cycle of death and rebirth
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>>489924297
I think Miyazaki might be gay bros.
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>>489931364
>Marika or someone else (probably marika)
Ha yes, Marika or Marika. Unless it's Marika. But who can say if it's Marika, maybe it's Marika instead.
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If Devonia left to go find the Crucible, and she ended up in Rauh ruins, does that mean her search for the Crucible in Scooby-land was leading her to the divine gate?
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>>489923903
I would not mix them together, I'd mix Bloodborne with Def Jam Fight for NY
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>>489929940
Crucible'd.
The Divine Gate is a tool to control the power of the Crucible to give the user beneficial mutations that amount to godhood instead of random mutations that mostly screw them over confirmed.
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>>489931521
it means from is making shit up as they go and don't really care
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>>489930995
>Has two + fucking years
>It is too little time :(((((
>Game consists of not one, not two, not three but four empty barren fucking shit holes the size of Radahn's asshole after a date night with Miquella
>Random rot whore out of fucking nowhere
>Lore is "she randomly contacted space AIDS lol"
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>>489930851
Wouldn't surprise me if some years later GRRM confirms the whole thing about Radahn was literally a Miyazaki asspull. Nothing in the base game and literally just a handful of items in the DLC hint at this supposed vow. I'd have been ok even with a new character that only exists in the Land of Shadow being the consort.
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>>489931521
How else do you think they were planning to power the gate? You see Marika yoink the ER's golden threads in the story trailer. Placidusax's dragon god bounced and left the ER behind and so the Hornsent built their tower up around the Crucible to manufacture a replacement.
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>>489929486
The tale of house hoslow is told in blood
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>>489931521
It is because the Scadu tree is/was the Crucible, anon. I thought they made it obvious enough

Why do you think it is helix / spiral shaped?
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>>489931447
>Gwyndolin
What gave that away?
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>>489930851
>Instead of treating the place as the underworld they decided to make it some real™ land that was sealed off

They kinda do this with the "all manner of death washes up here" which ends up being completely irrelevant except for Radahn's soul which is here for some reason instead of the Erdtree.
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>>489931447
It's only gay to be a Miquella enjoyer if you're a woman
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>>489931601
Def jam was awesome
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>>489928067
Even his supposed parallel with Marika is extremely weak, only midwits who treat lorefagging like they're unlocking arcane texts for pointing out the most obvious character arcs ever think it's compelling. They're really not that similar at all besides "they wanted to make the world a better place by becoming a God" and the forced as FUCK Godfrey parallel that nukes everything interesting about Miquella's lore.
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>>489930995
That's Elden Ring in general (erg lol) and that's why I am mad. They had a very good setting to work with and because of time constraints they had to cut and change down a bunch of shit so now we're left with the scraps of what could've been.
Miyazaki reusing things from old games because he thinks it's cool (frenzied flame, time is le convoluted invasions, roundtable hold, hollow enemies) makes it even worse. And, instead of going "oh shit, we sold a billion dollars!" (I think shortly before the DLC released they announced 25M copies sold and the DLC sold another 5M) and work on putting some good care post-release they're just moving on to something else. This is baffling to me.
Everything about SoTe feeling rushed as fuck (from the open world, to the lore added to every character and even the artbook) and then the company itself not suffering anything from it makes me sad for the future of Fromsoft, but at this point I don't even care and would happily enjoy it.
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>>489927326
They can if they try, they just couldn't put in even the minimal amount of effort into SotE. Freyja's lore alone shows how they had no conception of a timeline of events as a deed that's supposed to make him look compassionate ends up turning him into a monumental dumbass and piece of shit when you look at the bigger picture, and the Mohg kidnapping plot is genuinely incomprehensible to piece together and seemingly only exists for an ebin twist.
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>>489932554
It sets a bad precedent too
Gorillion moneys and they're just moving on huh
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>>489931871
I said the Divine Gate, not the scadutree. If the crucible was the Scadutree Devonia would've been at the Scadutree, not Rauh.
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>>489932624
What the fuck even happened here
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>>489916861
Wrong. Its literally one of the least braindead way to fight radahn using colossal S/W, other than spamming lions claw.
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There's literally nothing wrong with killing hornsent
They deserve worse
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>>489932708
>mogg kidnapped miquella so miquella could... sit underground
Waow
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>>489932819
Yeah, I don't get it either. Not saying they should milk it for the next 20 years, but it's like having the golden goose in your hands and you kill it for it's meat.
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>>489932902
aurora borealis
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>>489914954
>shoesize grew
Got fatter? or did anything else grow, like your fingers, jaw, forehead?
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>>489933046
The detail about him canonically never responding to Mohg yet somehow was able to charm him through the cocoon and how Ansbach challenged him is complete nonsense, and that's assuming the kidnapping wasn't planned as it becomes even more retarded if you believe it was
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>>489932624
wow i thought eac was supposed to prevent that?
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>>489933097
Yup
All it tells me is to wait before buying new from shit to see if it'll be rushed or not
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>>489932554
invasions never made sense in dark souls. a lot of stuff in souls was just ideas that made sense when invented for demons, but no sense in dark souls. so for elden ring i don't have as much a problem with it, but it's when they do a similar thing but worse that it gets annoying. roundtable hold as a significantly worse version of ds3 firelink and untended graves - already the worst hub from the souls series is a great example
also it's really funny/stupid that the wandering nobles look like walking corpses but thops has been locked out of the academy since the shattering and he's just... fine
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>>489932554
>Miyazaki reusing things from old games because he thinks it's cool
I still don't know what's the point of the tarnished crossing the fog to reach the lands between other than an epic demon's souls reference.
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>>489915546
Youve perfectly described the problem with big weapons doing. Imagine having 1000 ar with a single giant crusher with 23 weight, vs 2 slender swords each doing 500 damage, weighing like 8 units. Yeah youre not doing more damage than giant crusher but you will be doing comparable damage with way more dps.
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>>489932858
I mean, you can see the Scoobydootree from every fucking where
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>>489933416
I think it's cool because it's the distant homeland and land of the gods
Kinda cool
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>>489933416
Well that's because it's the afterlife. The real reuse is fog gates, which are a demon's souls thing
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>Die to start up of Radahn Rock attack
>he's one pixel
>Mimic tear beats god
>He was only there to throw blood pots
>I didn't beat the game
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>>489933257
Ansbach canonically challenged the cocoon. It's why the cocoon has the giant rip that the hand is coming out of.
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What starting class do you always gravitate towards when you play a fromsoft game?
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>>489932624
incredibly based
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>>489932624
Ohio rizz
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>>489933809
How did Ansbach even get close enough, did Mohg just watch his knight from the sidelines draw his blade with murderous intent and thought "yeah that's fine", when we can't even stop to say hello before trying to kill us because he thinks we'll take Miquella away?
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>>489933752
>the afterlife.
No it ain't
Roderika's people came there by boat (they knew of the place while in the mainland, and about grafting, unless some jesus revived and told everyone how would they then)
Godfrey left the island with his bros and they had kids
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>>489932554
I dont really know how they judge the success of a DLC, but if it only sold 1/5 and took almost half a long to make then hopefully that's a wake up call
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>>489933809
the opening cutscene literally shows miquella's body out of the cocoon though, unless mohg removed him from one to put into another one
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>>489933264
So it's Sulyvahn with shitty hitboxes and two shot capabilities for the git gud crowd?
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>>489933854
Pyro
Merchant
Vagabond
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>>489933264
Why do you keep posting this? Anyone with eyes can see that their actual animations are different.
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>>489933997
Why couldn't the afterlife be a physical place? It is in plenty of mythologies. Hell is a valley of trash burning in Jerusalem
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>>489914459
>and Elden Ring seems to hate big sword users.

nah, its one of the best games in from's library for big sword users. you just have to pick your moments, and know your advantages. for example, using cragblade for more stance breaking like another anon said. Fully charged R2s are beastly in Elden Ring, they do tons of stance damage. If you don't want to use cragblade, lion's claw/ savage lions claw does great damage and stance damage too. Guard counters are your friend, and great at the end of a boss' combo
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>>489934220
blind ass mf on god are you /srs or /j
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>>489934016
This was a plot hole even before the DLC
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>Punched Malenia to death with the help of my new Dragon Priestess gf Florissax
Feels good bros.
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>>489934220
They are identical homie. Exact same timing. 1:1. They exact same animations just slightly modified. Like he jumps higher in the end. And there is one slash vs stab. Stop coping
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This DLC helped me achieve a degree of enlightenment. I was fixated on Miquella being with the Tarnished, and was extremely resistant to any other outcome. Thus the Creator brought forth the spiritual catalyst of him being written as being with another, so as to bring about my spiritual evolution. Then I studied metaphysics and Buddhist dharma more closely and came to the realization that all is One. Therefore, Radahn being with Miquella is me being with him and vice versa.
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>>489933956
Presumably Mohg was too busy fucking Miquella in the cocoon to notice
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>>489934727
you're a cuck AND a faggot, legitimately consider suicde
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I don' understand what Law of Causality and Law of Regression means.
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>want ansbach's mask for a bloodflame-centered build
>you can only get it after beating PCR, the hardest fight in the game
I understand why people cheat now
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>>489915738
Jesus christ, that's nuts. A few weeks ago some anon mentioned that the Dancing Lion has a rare move that uses all of his elements, and he only does it if you take a long time to kill him. Haven't seen it, ever, and today while helping a very passive and useless host who probably had no skidibis, I saw that crazy combo. It destroyed me and the other phantom and the boss still had like 40% of his HP left
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Sleeping with Messmer!
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>>489916718
utterly based and like the others said, i want it as an option going forward in all the games. its too fun to not use.
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>>489934595
I just realized that DS2 enemies are so sluggish and awkward because they had to balance everything to not be literally impossible with base agility, that game was such a shitshow
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>>489934595
Why didnt he backstab
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>>489932554
They nearly always do this shit.
Every Souls game they over reach for what they want to do and it causes shit to go wrong in other departments or they make just the most baffling fucking decisions and it leads to cut content, massively wasted potential and a shallow story/characters.
At its worst you end up with shit like Dark Souls 2 and 3 where they basically have to patch all the shit together in the last year and a bit and hope for the best.
It's pretty much just Sekiro that came out relatively unscathed.
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>>489916249
Backhand Blades
Milady
Fire Knight Greatsword

special shout out to Savage Lions Claw, one of the coolest skills in the whole game
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>>489934850
>Law of Causality
Causality is the pull between meanings; that which links all things in a chain of relation.
>Law of Regression
Regression is the pull of meaning; that all things yearn eternally to converge.

Everything is related, all things have the same root and are destined to one day combine with eachother. Basically it is the Greater Will's desire of "ALL as ONE"
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>>489935134
No, the player is slow too
DS2 was a high commitment game, all you did was high commitment (no moving while drinking, estus is over time, can't just spin around on a dime, can't just smash shit to roll out of animations)
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>>489935104
What is going through the snake's mind here?
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>>489935368
*hiss*
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i don't understand ymir
what did he want us to do with the third map piece? when and if we found metyr?
was it him who sent the sister after us?
why did he get so upset when we had to defend ourselves from metyr? didn't he want to become her?
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>>489935368
no thoughts
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>>489916861
its actually insanely good against radahn
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>>489935368
Bliss
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>>489935352
That's why it's kino in a way dark rolls 3 or bellend ring could never be
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>>489934850
>Causality
Lore: All things are connected. Everything can be converged.
Gameplay: Every action has a(n equal) reaction.
>Regression
Lore: Everything comes from a single thing. Everything wishes to return to that point.
Gameplay: Your natural state is all that matters.
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>>489930851
godwyn has his own entire area in base, though. an entire npc questline almost as big as ranni's. his own boss. his own ending.

the dlc was never going to be about him, since he's base game. it was always going to be about miquella, the one demigod we've yet to kill.
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>>489928136
based cat soup
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Does storm blade scale purely with dex?
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>>489935461
He wants you to kill Metyr so he could research / assimilate with her but you let it escaped
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>>489934595
God DS2 looks like shit. Why does everyone look like they're moving underwater?
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>>489920671
>>489920813
full dex seems to be fun with consecutive attack builds, but as i saw that, my dex build has 30 arc and 17 fai so i can use some bloodflame incantations + get some very powerful bleed infused weapons.
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>>489935680
yes
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>>489934849
Consider, if you will, taking that logic to it's extremity. To reproduce is a form of cuckoldry, as you're priming your offspring to be claimed by another. To work is a form of cuckoldry, as you're providing resources others will utilize for their own offspring from your skill and energy. To make a video game is a form of cuckoldry, as you're creating characters that will be parodied and eroticized. Everything is cuckoldry given the interdependent relationships of souls, bodies, organs, cells, molecules across time-space.

The only answer to this dilemma is the dissolution of a sense of self, and the recognition of all as being one.
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>>489935590
I sorta agree
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>>489935691
>>489935352
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>>489935789
lotta cope low int rambling to justify your cuckoldry
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>>489934727
>>489935789
what
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>>489936068
I would appreciate a response that addressed the flaws in my statement that I may learn and grow from them.
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>>489935789
Japs are just into some weird shit. For me it was Guildmarm and the Brachydios
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>>489935789
Massive cope on display here.
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>>489935789
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>>489936230
I'm not going to waste neurons trying to argue with a retard who's coping with his homosexuality
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>>489936349
Fucking hate these images
"Omg miquella is such a sissy hypno boypussy goon haha"
Grrrr
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>>489936402
>rose thorns

Damn that's crazy
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>>489936491
That's their post-DLC fate.
Miquella as a rapist/sissy. And Radahn is there doing whatever.
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>>489936491
There's nothing fetishy or sexual about that image. Pic related is an image with sexual undertones.
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>>489934595
>reddit repost
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/1emp4xd/this_guy_had_radahns_moveset_a_decade_ago/
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>>489936491
Blame Miyazaki for completely derailing the game with his fetishes at the last minute
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>>489935789
He is speaking the language of god
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>>489935789
>>489936230
You should become my bf. I think everyone ITT agrees
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Roundtable hold is the fucking worst hub in these games, maybe any game to have a hub.
>Oh boy so many rooms!
>80% are empty
>Oh boy it's got so many npcs!
>They all leave 10 to 20% of the way through the game
>It uh, it burns when the tree is on fire!
>We have no idea why
Seriously the game would've actually just been better with tarnished village on the coast or some shit. Do majula again. Start with almost no one and have it grow so you feel like being elden lord will actually do something. And don't have hewg go hollow for no fucking reason
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>>489936675
Why does he have breasts
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>>489936881
Estrogen induced femboy titties.
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>>489936576
Before the DLC, people could pretend Miquella was an actual character
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>>489936491
He's canonically a top that plaps radahn. But even japs are doing this to the two. It's what they'll be remembered for
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>>489937018
I want a Souls game where it's just a giant 1:1 interconnected walled city, no other levels.
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>Terrified as shit of the abyssal woods for the first time
>The mansion is just the same shadowmen and fucking horned warriors
Seriously just reuse the ghosts that appeared in like 2 areas in sekiro. Make an enemy that slowly follows you and can't be killed. Do something besides just 'it's a mansion i guess'
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>>489937245
>He's canonically a top that plaps radahn.
This is the truth. The Chinese understand.
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>>489937145
And now they aren't. The closest being to actual being a character now are marika who we never speak to and ranni both of whom have the most annoying simps and should all die
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>>489937305
Trust the Spellbound leaks and then get disappointed when they're wrong even though you have no right to be
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>>489935789
>99 INT
>99 FAI
>99 ARC
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>>489937363
Manse vs. manse, Manse of the Hallowed Brothers from LotF BTFOs Midra's Manse so hard it isn't even funny. Give me back my real dungeon design, man. Elden Ring fully separated the dungeon and the boss into two different parts of the game. You can make the dungeons hard, it's okay.
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>>489937245
>>489937406
From the beginning it's clear it's just some Fugtrup sissy Link Ganondorf degenerate tranny shit they just had to force in
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>>489937584
>LOTF
Is that game actually good? I really liked the Surge.
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>>489937406
Japs understand too. Even many western normalfags now make jokes about radahn being miquella's wife.
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>>489936704
yeah thats how the internet works things spread
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>>489937771
It's good. Great? No, not really.
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>>489937779
It's why more than one artist is drawing cuntboy Radahn now
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>>489937908
I mean it's literally canon, so
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>>489936841
I appreciate you expressing your desire to form a partnership. It is a happy thing to consider.
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>Opponent uses claws of the night
Okay cool I'll just stand still and die.
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>>489937728
Cope
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>>489937779
Is that why Radahn looks like a Yujiro/Ganondorf knockoff?

Come on, no one believes that shit
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>>489938046
So do you accept?
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Should I try for a madness build or just stick with dragon communion? Faith has by far the most versatile play style.
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>>489938242
Yes actually. Josou seme is becoming increasingly popular with degenerates.
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>>489937728
Cute not degenerate
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>>489938242
Yujiro meaning this character from Baki who canonically raped another man in the ass and is regarded as a straight gigachad for it
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>>489938509
Unfortunately Miquella will be in the degenerate side instead of cute. Not even Mohg x Miquella artists were this bad.
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>>489937305
>I want a Souls game where it's just a giant 1:1 interconnected walled city, no other levels.
It would get boring very quickly as everything would look the same from start to finish.
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I want to believe.
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>youtube really wants me to watch "Promised Consort Radahn Ultimate Cheese" for some reason
>click it
>uploader is Chinese
How does an entire nation fail to beat the cheesy cheater allegations
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>>489936349
we save radahn after we kill miquella
we saved mohg when we killed him
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>anons talking about femboy tops and cuntboys
Someone needs to set these crooked lands to rights.
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All from needs to do is reveal that Miquella was a woman all along and every "brother" in the translation was a translation error
This will never happen but its the funnies thing they could do
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>>489938675
And who incidentally looks exactly like Radahn
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>>489937728
>From the beginning it's clear it's just some Fugtrup sissy Link Ganondorf degenerate tranny shit they just had to force in
Yep.
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>>489938740
I'd be happy purely because it would mean an overhaul to the casting system. For all the people bitching that Elden Ring has reached the limit of what a Souls game can or should do, the only way in which it's actually true is with regard to the casting system. The Demon's Souls spell cycling with D-pad shit just does not work with the pace of Elden Ring combat.
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>>489938509
>>489938703
Would literally not exist in the game at all if it weren't for degenerate reasons and Miyazaki reading some blacked sissification ogre x shota doujin
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How do we make magma wyrms better?
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>>489938782
I've nutted to that Marika femdom vid like 6 times already
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>>489939098
pyost yt
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>>489939094
We don't
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>>489937728
>gwyndolin
zaki isn't a normal dude; he and grrm share the same soul
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I think it's funny how the runebear boss is actually less cancerous than the regular runebear.
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>>489939280
Marika had sex with that snake
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>>489939221
Gwyndolin got cannibalized by an ugly bastard
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>>489935368
Bombastic side eye
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>>489939094
they're fine as is as long as level appropriate so you don't bully them too much and their sword slams/swipes are dangerous. dragon communion fags become slug-dragons for all intents, which is fitting, as it's sloth. they're turned into a mockery of dragons/drakes that they must suffer.
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>>489939280
cut content
i hate fromsoft
elden ring is a 0/10 video game
the dlc is -1/10 video game
shazam won
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>>489939319
I WAS RIGHT
THE REGULAR RUNEBEARS ARE FUCKING SHIT
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>invade
>Rauh
>search for host
>can't find
>phantom bloody finger is useless (thanks Miyazaki)
>check group on PSN, party full
>go over to where Devonia is
>host hasn't moved this entire time
>chill out
>go take a piss
>check sites out, etc.
>finally see another invader just finger out
>host finally starts moving around
not sure what sort of mental illness causes this type of behavior in hosts
he finally seems to have finally started playing the game with his buttbuddy now as I'm typing this up
just gonna chill out real cozy like with Davonia til he shows up. I was gonna boot up my other system and play on it if he was gonna continue wasting my time but maybe he'll eventually make it here (:
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>>489939094
Zoom out the fucking camera.
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>>489939024
Stay mad. Miquella is a top
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>>489938703
They are cute and their love story is beautiful
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>>489939360
yes, zaki is not a normal dude.
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>>489939481
>dragon communion fags become slug-dragons for all intents, which is fitting, as it's sloth
It's called being efficient, not laziness.
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>>489939518
welp he either suicided or died to pve
another win for me (:
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Violently beating Messmeryumes to death. Hitting them on the head really hard with a rock until their skull caves in.
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>>489939280
>next to the o, mother gesture
>marika's son messmer is a human-snake hybrid
>game full of degenerate behavior
i mean, it's not hard
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>>489939485
all true
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>>489939519
Isn't that like almost every single boss battle?

>>489939319
It's cause a regular runebear has fast and long reaching attacks with quick/subtle tells. The camera also sucks which makes reading them even more difficult. Rugalea doesn't move around as much, and ironically, it's new bear communion AOEs make it a lot more manageable since it stops belly sliding all over the place.
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>>489939573
Radahn loves to serve his god.
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>Finally get to shaman village after it's been hyped up by a bunch of people as the biggest lore drop and so cool and the best moment in the dlc
>4 closed off houses and 2 items
I thought marika was from fucking space, not this gay little village. Majula sweeps.
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>>489939846
>game full of degenerate behavior
what are you implying
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>>489939094
Dont make them stand up instead give them a couple of new moves in phase 2. Make it so they don't spam the crawl attack.
Phase 1 wyrms are already pretty good.
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>>489939518
I personally enjoy these hosts because it's an excuse to let my darkest urges run wild. I'll leave cute hosts alone if they gesture at me or they're truly clueless, but people who refuse to play the game get the worst of it. Cannon bombardment, pots, night maiden's mist, rancor shot, poison, killing their password phantoms, blocking them, and holding their game hostage. I will make them suffer as slow and humiliating a death as I can.
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>>489940041
you're supposed to cry after reading one line of text bro
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>>489940053
marika obviously pulled a daedicar, and she was a well known whore according to grandma
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>>489940205
It's not like I'm suddenly gonna feel sorry for Marika. Did she throw her two omen kids into the sewer because they reminded her of the people who stuffed a bunch of her shamans in jars (for reasons i have no fucking clue of)? That's still a bitch move. Total marika death
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>>489940319
>trusting a h*rnsent
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>>489939652
Believe it or not, that's actually just a common scenario for the sissy/tranny type stuff. Same goes for the "warlord" scenarios like with Radahn
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>>489913410
Are Abductor Virgins the final boss? What the fuck is up with them? I barely survived the grab from one and the second I stood up the other one grabbed me, just as a FUCK YOU.
They're too tanky when closed, hit like a truck fast with erratic movements AND also build bleed so eventually you'll get killed even if you keep healing.
So you gotta hit when one has an open cask and coincidentally that's when it can do its 1-hit-kill move.


Utter bullshit
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>>489940319
the words of a hornsent are worth less than the shit and filth they live in
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>>489933257
>>489933809
>>489933956
Ansbach challenged him inside the land of shadow you idiots.
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>>489940041
it's good when combined with bonny village and the gaols.
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>>489940356
yeah? you're supposed to feel bad and ignore all of her wrongdoings because this game is a masterpiece of storytelling
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>>489939951
>>489939573
Radahn literally would not be introduced into the DLC if Miquella were capable of being a top.

Miquella was basically seen as a vacuum a waste of a hole that needed filling
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>WHY WOULD YOU LISTEN TO HIM? HE USES A FUCKING MIMIC TEAR.
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>>489940391
No, they're actually easy and fairly predictable

Acquire proficiency
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>>489940391
Just died again in less than 15 seconds. Someone in a thread once said that no matter what happens, you can't die 10 or 15 seconds into a boss fight if you're at least trying to dodge.

Well this is the exception, I try to dodge and still bet eviscerated with their random movements. Dodged one and got caught in the spinning combo of the other one.
And I have 60 vig BTW, this is my endgame health.
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>>489940391
Abductor virgins are one of the more annoying and unfun enemies to fight.
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>>489940464
Problem is I know precisely jack and shit about the shamans. Bonny Village is pretty gnarly in general, don't get me wrong, and a whipping hut isn't gonna earn you much sympathy, but what caused the jarring? Why are they so blue and cold inside? Is there some long history between the hornsent and shamans? How did Marika become a god when her village was evidently commonly prey to a bunch of weirdos with butchering knives?
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>>489940391
they're more annoying to me than the elemental lion guardians in the dlc.
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>>489940429
we are tracing Miquella's footsteps. no one saw him yet.
>>489940391
>>489940639
play time: 10 hours
if you're fighting the duo boss use a lightning weapon and take your time being aware of the fact most of their attacks come back and will hit you if you're near
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>>489940391
lure em into the wall and get onto the ledge. kill one of them from range.
>you didn't beat it
who cares, these things are legitimately a GARBAGE thing to do and you should immediatelly kill patches for this shi
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>hornsent are le bad because... they just are!
And yet they successfully trapped a lord of frenzied flame while leyndell throw their disliked babies into a pit right above the frenzied flame proscription...
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>>489941102
>hornsent are le bad because... they just are!
every time someone say this i just assume they're that one marika gooner so all credibility goes to the trash
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>>489940872
Ended up winning by playing it super safe and using Banished Knight Oleg instead of my trusty Wolves, he managed to keep one entertained the whole fight.
Still used all of my 9 flasks and nearly died.
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>>489941102
the hornsent are bad because they're deformed monstrosities that worship said those deformities as a divine gift instead of the obvious curse that they are
demons pretend to be angels and you should kill them
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Any interesting lore drops or revelations or cool things they found? This game feels so dead
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>>489940532
Cope
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>>489941394
>Says the one coping

It's Radahn's healthbar
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>>489941392
why are zoomers like this
are their dopamine receptors really this fried
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>>489941378
>having a cool crest of horns is uh... it's a curse!
It's a curse on humans maybe, considering omens have them twisting around into their own eyeballs. But horned warriors are gigachads and the guy named hornsent is the only npc besides ansbach and igon I actually like
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>>489941524
It's cute that Miquella would rather die with Radahn than live without him
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>>489941378
they're pretty cool though
>>489941392
there's nothing and doubt there will be anything other than the shamans lore people figured out 1 week in
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>>489941652
You mean Miquella is a useless sissy effeminate faggot bottom, who is useless and only good for being fucked, like a woman
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>>489941524
You're the one coping sorry anon.
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holy gigachad of fextralife makes loreniggers seethe
this village sucked, it would've unironically been better if they explained the coffins in cerulean coast were ufos from space and marika road to the planet on one
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>>489941626
wheres radahn
>>489941861
he's right though, it's ultimately pointless
>uhh durr it makes you think that marika, the eternal item description was good at the start
yeah blessing of marika implied this already
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aTpf7M5O4k
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Why are there feminine faggots in this game? GRR really let himself go, game of thrones was a hetCHAD series full of man-on-woman rape
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>>489941861
We see the coffins already. They came to the world through those coffins, we're given more lore in the dlc of the tibia mariners they're made based on those who guided said coffins through space. They settled in that village and underground.
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I fucked yo bitch pussy, vaseline (yeah)
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>>489942114
Raping young boys was Japan's culture.
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>>489941861
Saw a nigga on twitter call someone a dialog skipper for calling the radahn fight shit
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>>489942334
>Tibia mariners are based on space navigators
That's rad as shit. Where's that stated?
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>>489941861
I was surprised by how fucking empty that whole area was after seeing it hyped up. Hinterlands sucked dick
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shaman village is fine, it being empty is kind of the whole point
it should've been bigger tho
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>>489942557
I got really drunk the other night with my gf and when I passed out it came to me in a dream
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>>489940741
the hornsent use the shamans and those they throw in jail as the innards of the pots, which is meant to turn them into saints. the guys with the butchering knives are the ones who help do it.

the hornsent likely used the same people to make the divine gate, which is what makes "gods". marika managed to worm her way up the ladder and found a way to enter the gate via betrayal to become a god (probably by seducing a hornsent leader). then she came back and killed most of the hornsent in revenge.
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>>489916718
deflect should've been base kit
stacking damage boost on tear/talisman
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>>489941102
they're bad because they torture and murder countless to create their pots, along with the divine gate.

their ability to contain the frenzy flame wasn't as good as what was at the capital, though. mohg and his omens are far harder than jori.
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>>489942564
Yep, very pretty but it's just repeated erdtree sentinels (I actually enjoy fighting them so I was glad, but they didn't drop anything interesting so who gives a shit) and a fucking finger ruin, the worst areas in the dlc
>>489942642
Sure except it's supposed to be a big emotional moment from what I can tell but it didn't hit me. The frenzied flame proscription was significantly better. See, if they had melina appear in the dlc, they could've had her talk to you at the village and actually give a little concrete info. Instead we just have to speculate about shit and people are acting like it's actually a great moment and marika is now a heroic figure because she was oppressed as a child. Again I thought she was a fucking alien from space with the base game so it's all a bit boring now
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>>489942719
Headcanon
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>>489916718
Cheese tear for shitters.
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>Love the chicken wing
>Used it in PvE, super fun
>Try it in duels
>Remember colossal weapons are completely and utterly worthless in PvP
>Win a couple but only using it as a substandard AoW stick, maybe with an offhand actually good weapon.

God why won't from make the colossal movement not shit?
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>>489940319
That decrepit hornsent bitch was coping that Marika managed to have so much of her disgusting kind slaughtered so she had to lash out at the Tarnished, though quite frankly, Messmer should’ve gone farther.
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>>489942981
The base game never actually says they're aliens they just say they're from another world. Which is true as the lands of shadow are now another world. The numen being aliens isn't actually all that interesting because most other big players are already confirmed aliens
The various gods outer and non outer
Metyr
The fingers
Onyx lords
Etc. The entire plot for elden ring would then just dumb down to "lol it was aliems" which in itself is boring. Elden ring lore was never good or interesting it was always inferior to their older games' lore. What was fun was your headcanons not what was presented in the game
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>>489943207
Marika is such a whore literally every tarnished is open to fuck her so long as they get through the thorns. She's such a whore she fucking married and produced kids with herself (sure would've been nice to get some more radagon lore fromsoft). She's such a whore half of her kids were invaded by outer gods from birth. Total Earth Destruction, May Chaos Take The World
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All From games have shit ass senseless lore that is irrelevant
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Marika had a browned, overused stinking open-air-sewer of a dilapidated blown-out roastbeef pussy.
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>>489913625
Is that custom-made anon? Pretty cute
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>>489943523
trying to activate marikas pussy
>you have the right, o you have the right
>so to speak you have the right, o you have the right
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Is there a password for the seamless coop mod? I just got around to using it.
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>the hornsent did teh evils!
*looks at the little omen thingies showing omen babies getting killed and thrown into the sewer*
Cowabummer!
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>>489943840
If the hornsent massacred me people and stuffed them into jars to turn them into mutated bloated flesh monsters I'd endless deliver death and suffering to their people too.
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>>489943840
Omens are just hornsents
Them getting thrown in the sewers is literally a favor, far more than they deserve
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Sorry hornsent haters, but Grandam made me some nice stew :)
>Scorpion simmered in a black soup.
>An exquisite dish chock-full of mouth-watering scorpion claws.
>Boosts physical damage negation temporarily and gradually restores a great amount of HP.
>The thoughts and feelings of the cook melt and blend into the stew, but those who can distinguish the taste of love are few and far between.
>"Partake, partake, until thou art sated."
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>>489943862
She sleeps in my pocket
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>>489944049
you're happy about actual black slop filled with poisonous bugs
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Chudding for pebble Sellen
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This thread just wants to be contrarian because normalfags hate hornsent now too and they can't be le ebin based raysists if others agree.
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>Omens are just hornsents
We're reaching new, heretofore unbeknownst levels of utter retardation and cope. Put these foolish ambitions to rest.
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>hornsent nigger is a frogposter happy about slop being fed to him
can't make this shit up
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>>489944187
Chud sell raye cysts
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Marika/GO
>Enslave people in mines all over the place
>Imprison (((Merchants))) on a literal false flag
>Wipe out an entire race of Giants out of fear who literally were just hanging out on their mountain
>Banishes people constantly for literally no good reason
>Genocide an entire race of people whose land YOURE on because some of them did bad shit
>Throw half your population into the sewer because they're ugly, and/or just murder the babies

Hornsent
>Attempt to turn illegal aliens into saints because all they do is sit in their hippie village all day merging with trees and shit
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Personally I'm glad the Greater Will stuck Marika in a tree to shatter and suffer while shifting into her weird male form to try and repair the Elden Ring for centuries. Bitch didn't give good head and that's why the hornsent stuck her mom in a jar
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>>489914005
How old was that original post?
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>put in erg group
>countless blood stains in every single cheese spot
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>>489938341
The reconvening of all consciousness into the Source is the final step of 7th density. From that perspective, a bond deeper than any coupling that can be had in this 3rd density world awaits us.
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>>489942114
the "normal" rape in demon's souls didn't do it for zaki
so he had to go a step further
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>>489944517
Actually the merchants aren't jews but gypsies. Kale is a name to refer to 3 different groups of gypsies and gypsies are known wandering merchants that everyone hates too
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How can Midra be lord of the frenzied flame if we chose that ending and became it ourselves?

>>489930851
Same
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I don't care about Marika did, the hornsent deserved what they got and worse still.
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>>489943475
this is completely wrong though
the base story of dark souls is perfectly fine
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>>489943013
the only thing thing that's not full canon is the divine gate, but considering the pile of corpses and bones, and this happened before messmer's invasion, there's not many explanations.
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>>489945252
Only dark souls 1 and 2. 3 is sloppa
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>>489945224
No you kill everything forever so no
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Who wins in a fight: the Shrike or Placidusax at peak strength?
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>>489945268
The divine gate is made of hornsent
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>>489945553
shrike
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Who wins
The player tarnished
Vs
Rennala's unwashed pussy on their face


Discuss
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>>489925093
Ds3 due to movement, 6 players, and covenant hotspots. Also solo invasions.
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>>489945318
>3 is sloppa
3 is the perfect end to the trilogy. The story is top notch, a culmination of all that takes place before, and a capstone that concludes the story perfectly. You're a zero braincell dumbdumb if you don't think the Painterly Lady and the combined Dark Soul from Gael at the end of the world wasn't the best fucking send off they could ever have written. Complete 180 compared to Elden Slop
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>>489923903
Different planets within the same universe.
If you had a rocket ship (or gravity magic like Radahn), you could fly from Lordran to the Lands Between. The protagonist from DS2 can teleport around via Things Betwixt.
During the Elden Beast fight, you see the Erdtrees that have been planted on other worlds by The Greater Will.
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https://streamable.com/jxrmem

I just discovered suicide bombing, this is fucking hilarious. Holy scorp+vow+ trick mirror
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>>489945921
Ringed city was good. The rest of 3 is slop. Elden slop is slop too.
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>>489946373
try it with the death knight axes
drink -> blinkbolt -> boom
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Had a lot of fun doing seamless coop. Not only was the latency far more bearable when i play with europoors, having access to full healing and fewer OL phantoms was great. I do feel bad for some of the hosts who are clearly clueless, but it isnt as if im using stuff outside of limgrave, so its a fair fight. I like being required to kill all the phantoms, being able to call in reinforcement, and having your dropped runes where you invaded. Im still on the fence about torrent, but i found that hilariously fighting on foot against torrent is a lot easier since you have more control. But if they just run away, its a tedious game of cat and mouse that im just not a fan of.
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What "treason" is the Finger Slaying Blade's description referring to? I wanted to connect to the whole Marika's "seduction and betrayal" thing (maybe she sliced open Metyr), but its all wishy washy. Also the DLC made a big deal of Marika being a Shaman, but the rest of the Numen in the base game seem completely removed from this. The Numen are miles underground in the eternal cities but also in the Shaman Village?
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>>489945921
You do realize that not everyone who dislikes 3 is an elden simp too right? Both are bad and filled with newfags
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>>489947071
what level did you invade at?
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>>489941102
They didn’t trap him though…
Midra was resisting the FF entirely on his own. The moment he gives up he immediately turns into Sauron and the spiky sword doesn’t do shit
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Hey want an interesting fact /erg/? The tarnished is standing oral height with malenia
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wy is there a giant cancer riddled hippopotamus at the entrance of shadow keep
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>>489913625
>Sellen after the Tarnished and Ranni take pity on her situation and decide to stuff her inside a doll
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>>489937519
kek
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>>489913817
Actually I consider DS2 the best one because it's the easiest one. Bosses at least. I have fun figuring out how to beat the level, but I hate getting stuck on Uberpowerful bosses crushing my little weak character.
DS2 can give you a hard time making it to the fog gate but the bosses are simple to match your character
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>>489947382
It means she can piss on you while standing
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>>489939319
Genuinely enjoyable as fuck. I beat it on like 1 flask left and somehow survived the entire fight after fucking up the beginning.
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>>489947382
There's nothing to perform oral on. All her holes are sealed shut by fungal rot shit.
>>489947796
She can't piss.
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>>489947603
Messmer fed H*rnsent to it for fun.
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>>489946978
Considering 3 in isolation isn't fair. DLCs were always planned and honestly the base game ended ok. Far better than Elden Slop at least. You were given the choice to relink the fire, abandon the fire for a new age, or usurp it (i forgtet what that one meant). But it all made sense in its own way. Being an ashen one, getting the cinders, etc. Shit was cool.
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>>489947961
It is completely fair actually. Elden slop and slop souls 3 fanboys are the same kinds of niggers arguing who's less niggery when everyone just views them as monkeys.
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>>489947241
25. I suspect itll get more difficult later, which is ok, but ive faced zero ol phantoms, and invasions were near instant everytime. Its giving me day 1 invasion vibes. Ive no illusion itll get worse from here on out but the significantly improved latency and quality of connection are all i ask for.
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>>489947909
You can scrape away the rot.
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>>489947126
And I'm saying if you think there are lore problems with DS3 in comparison to ER you're a mong. You're free to dislike whatever you want but one story is objectively fucking incomprehensible garbage and one isnt
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>>489947961
I never said anything about 3 in isolation. Just that ringed city is the only good part of 3. I don't like playing 3 and just reload after doing the ringed city as the rest is a bore to get through. Likewise I only ever play elden ring to fight godfrey then reload because elden ring isn't good either.
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>>489943840
both sides are bad. that's kinda the point, anon. when people do bad things, people do bad things to them, and the cycle tends to repeat.
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>>489948429
It does have lore problems. No one said anything about elden ring. You should know as well as I that just because you're posting in am elden ring general doesn't mean the posts have to be about or even liking elden ring. This is just an elden ring themed soulsborne thread that's the most alive so I can shit on ds3 and er here freely
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>>489948190
>25
every time lol
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>>489947382
>Hey want an interesting fact /erg/? The tarnished is standing oral height with malenia
Imagine the smell.
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>>489947382
Imagine the smell.
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>>489948429
The original posts you're replying to didn't mention elden ring. Just ds1 and 2. No one's talking about elden ring but you. >>489945318
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>>489947603
>Miyazacki: don't ask me to explain shit
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>>489947098
The 'treason' that the Finger Slayer blade is probably referring to the Nox getting sick of Metyr's Jehova's Witness-style proselyting and subsequently ganking her for that

IDK, the Shaman-Numens that were Marika's people were probably a fringe hippie group that broke off from the rest of the Nox and returned to the surface to be 'in harmony with nature' or something like that
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>>489947071
Anyone on Torrent can be stunlocked to death. It's fucking hilarious.
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i admit that i did not read everything thoroughly but i do not understand the need to split all affected by the crucible to omens, misbegotten and dlc's hornsent
aren't they all the same, varying only in the amount of animalistic features in them?
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Anyone have a chart of the "intended" or "recommended" skibiddi levels for every boss in the DLC? I wanna go through them without overskibbiding
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>>489947382
I don't understand how rannifags could like ranni
We see from her corpse that she had a height taller than malenia close to marikas
An ass as fat if not fatter than marikas
And had beautiful red hair
She was the perfect fusion of rennala, marikas, and radagon's genes.
And she killed it
She doesn't even take a form similar to her old one when she becomes a god at the end
She stays as a genitaless doll
You could've had a 9ft tall, edgy, magical, redhead, nerdy, space witch wife with a huge ass

And she killed it.
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>>489937858
my fuarking HERO
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>>489937858
>>489949139
I'm going to be honest. When I was younger and going through puberty I wanted to rape vengarl and sullyvan. Not be plapped by them but restrain them and shove my dick into them and force them to serve me and love me and only me forever. I also wanted to rape twilight princess Ganon. Years later I'm a mentally ill mid 20s twink who had about 8 more years until twinkdeath sits in and i still have a fetish for taller more muscular men than me. I understand why miquella wanted radahn. I truly do. He's just a mixture of all 3 of them. I have a fujo friend im thinking of throwing money at her so she can draw a picture of my tarnished NTRing miquella and stealing radahn from him because i can't draw for shit
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>>489948507
Fair man, I'm just a lore schizo and not really talking about the gameplay.

>>489948646
Minor in comparison to ER. Feel free to list your grievances though. DS3's story and lore have pockets of strangeness in a mostly comprehensible thread of events. ER's story and lore is a mostly incomprehensible stream of events with no rhyme or reason or even reasonable timeline.
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>>489949532
i hate gay people now
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>>489945793
Rennala is super mid.
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>>489949139
Vengarl is a favorite NPC of mine so to see him repurposed into the final boss of the DLC that I do not thematically like irritates me.
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>>489935134
No they were just really shitty animators
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>be at boss
>load up CE
>turn on godmode
>make my weapon only do 1 point of damage
>git gud at first stage, damage boss enough to force it into second
>commit boss's moveset to memory
>develop strats to avoid em
>stress free
>turn off CE, let boss kill me
>then fight the boss for real
You might call it cheating, I just call it efficiency.
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>>489949649
Gameplay is bad. Lore is not good but less bad than elden ring. The issue with elden ring is that miyazaki went a little bit too far with the whole "I want people to interpret things so i can read them" he's done for each game. It's less concise and while all souls lore requires headcanon, with elden ring it went a little too far in the requiring headcanon area. It's like skyrim compared to starfield gameplaywise where in skyrim you had a full game that was vastly improved by mods and some mods were needed to keep the game stable but it was alright modless, meanwhile starfield was clearly made in a way so modders can just make the game for them.

Miyazaki just overshot things lorewise, just like how he did gameplay wise too. Elden ring was too big for it's own good. I like the characters and world in elden ring more than ds3 but the lore itself is worse
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>>489948652
How bad is it at higher?
>>489948871
Can you backstab them when theyre off the horse? Couldnt see if we could deliver a critical attack but you couls backstab people who have fallen on their asses.
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>>489949715
If you want to hate gay people even more my friend and i catfish straight men together she'd give me pics of herself and id talk to straight guys to get nudes and vids of them doing embarrassing things hoping they'd get pussy it was shocking and great how many straight guys would bounce on a dildo for a woman. We share these pics and vids together and shed share what she collected by herself. She's my partner in crime.
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>>489944585
Hornsemites lost.
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>>489949975
Newb here. What is CE?
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>>489948991
Omens are significantly cursed individuals born to human. The intensity of their horns, often digging back into their own flesh, and their grotesque appearance means they are clearly different than Hornsent. Misbegotten aren't former humans. They are some flavor of beast transformed by the crucible.
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I remember people advertising ER as different from DS because "this time there's real, live humans and the world hasn't been destroyed" and I'll give it there's a lot of colors but it's functionally the same.

Everyone seems to have gone hollow or mutated God fucking knows why, even outside of Caelid with its Scarlet Rott. The peasant and nobles you find are literally copy pasted Hollows, just repeating their tasks to no end. The soldiers you fight 99% of the game seem to also be hollow, and if they're sane it makes no difference.
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>>489947382
She is not this much bigger than the player
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>>489950314
You catfished nobody with any self respect.
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>>489950538
Cheat Engine
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>>489950712
Most straight guys lack self respect and you know this. Gay guys have even less.
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>>489950098
>Gameplay is bad. Lore is not good but less bad than elden ring.

DS3's story and lore is amazing, you're just another one of those Elden Ring fanboys who can't stomach the idea of a previous game being superior.

As for the gameplay, perhaps you can explain why making greatswords and curved greatswords shit to use in Elden Ring.
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>>489950767
They still have more than that. I've been single for 29 years of my life and have not once been led to do anything of the sort.
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>>489950314
That just makes me hate women more, not gay people
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>>489950794
You seem like a fanboy here. My post shat on elden ring too. I said the lore was better than elden rings. Stop being so defensive.
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>>489950314
Are women really this evil?
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There are 0 weapons to use for a dragon communion build
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>>489950963
So why are you even here if you think both are bad?
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>>489950794
>shit on elden ring and say ds3 lore is better and why
>you're an elden ring fanboy
?????
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>>489950767
I really don't look down on other men for using dildos
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>>489951132
gooners make everything better
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>>489950794
DS3 even if it's stupidly cryptic at least feels like it's telling something grandiose I don't get what's the narrative value in Elden Ring, what are the themes? 60 hours in, level 79, I think I'm about to fight Radahn.
Like with dark souls at least it's obvious the theme is depression, letting go of an era or holding dear what remains of it, etc.. There's a lot one can say about dark souls as a whole and 3 specifically makes it even more impactful, in the face of apocalypse now you even revive 5 previous legendary heroes to use as fuel, while in the past 1 was enough. It gets you thinking about what to do.
Also Aldrich eating Gwyndolin who defended Anor Londo to the end just hits hard.
I've heard a lot of NPCs talk to me in Elden Ring but I'm not grasping any underlying themes, it'd just Elden Lord this and Elden Ring that, and a lot of backstory / lore about the different Shard bearers.
It seems to be way more focused on lore than on themes to make me care.
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>>489951152
Just run DS3's and Elden Ring's story intro side by side and then come back and tell me which one has a coherent plot.
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>>489950794
>DS3's story and lore is amazing
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>>489951109
I like certain aspects of 3 more than elden ring. I like certain aspects of elden ring more than 3. I think elden ring failed in many things 3 did well and in others improved upon 3. I dislike how many weapons and the lore feel compared to ds3. I like the characters and magic more in elden ring. I enjoyed the lands between more than lothric as settings but I also think ds3's smaller world makes it more replayable than elden ring. Ringed city blows sote out of the water. The pvp is more enjoyable in 3 simply due to the variety of spirits you'd see and fight clubs both of which have died in elden ring.

I like both games but I'm willing to criticize both as well. I criticize elden ring more than 3 because it feels like bigger wasted potential yet I've found ds3 fans to be as delusional as elden ring fans yet I prefer interacting with ds3 fans more as they're less retarded and less new.
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>>489951132
Would
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>>489951071
what, you thought every single major religion since the birth of our species put restrictions on w*men's freedom for funsies? no its because the average w*man, if left to her own devices, becomes a stuck up bitch with daddy issues. Much like the average man, if left to his own devices, will devolve into a lazy sleazy fuck with mommy issues.
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>>489951315
Anon you seem so caught up in your need to defend that you fail at seeing when someone's agreeing with you. Again, the original replies didn't mention elden ring but ds1 and 2. >>489950098 goes into why elden ring lore is bad from a development standpoint comparing it to starfield.
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>>489951281
Like maybe ER's story would be good if you could actually join one of the houses and get to know their values and help them accomplish their mission or something.
Set the game some years before so you can join Malenia or Radahn before their fateful battle.

I'm just being infodumped about all these people with similar names and THEIR family issues, not mine, I don't care.
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After beating the DLC, I can say that I didn't have as much fun as I did with the base game. Open world was less rewarding and open world enemies felt trivial and uninspired. The lore involving Marika/Hornsent/Messmer was very interesting, but felt underutilized, and the other half involving Miquella was barf. Bosses felt like there was too much memorization and trial and error since they're very difficult to read/react to. I get that most people here will really like it, especially the people who like actual difficult and not the illusion of it (ie.: the past FROM titles), want opponents who actually have intelligent lore accurate fighting styles, or just want to twist the game intro pretzels with crazy builds (like the 80 INT guy who two shot Radahn with Carian Sovereignty), but it's not my type of game. It kind of reminds me of playing an instrument, just that there's a loud asshole heckling you the whole time (that would be the nauseating camera and visual clutter that fills your screen and tanks your FPS in my simile). Sekiro tear and light greatswords were really good/stylish though (nothing better than using wing stance to stylishly jump over attacks) and I'd like to see more of this sort of stuff in later titles.
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>>489945573
yes. meaning, they were killing their own species, not just the numen and others. there's also hornless humanoid corpses at the divine gate.
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I'm highly neurotic so I find Dark Souls 3 hard to play. There's a blanket of deep despair in the game that clings to me even after I've been away from it for a few hours. It makes me feel bad so I don't like playing it anymore.
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>approach Igon
>see a white spirit attacking the spot he's in
why
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ranni and miquella are meant to be akin to the fool's idol

people manipulated into thinking evil is good
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oh yeah? Maybe it came from your pussy. Your divorced pussy. Stupid bitch.
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>>489951752
It's probably because everyone looks like they're slathered in Vaseline.
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Should I continue using Golden Order Seal with 50/50 int/faith or go 80 faith with the erdtree seal when doing DLC content?
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>>489951752
It is, I described the overall plot to a friend and he said "what the fuck that's just too depressing". It's like assisted suicide, your fights are kind of meaningless, you're just deciding how or when to end the world, and not to any meaningful degree, it already is fucked.
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>>489950242
>Can you backstab them when theyre off the horse?
Haven't tried it. Usually when they get knocked off their horse I keep hitting the shit out of them until they die.
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>>489951976
Also the lighting is horrible jesus.
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>there's a solitary miquella's lilly at the back entrance to redmane castle
heh
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For INT players, does Cold dump all over Magic infusions? Seems that Magic infusion really only starts paying out at very high INT, and even then, Cold will do more damage if you're resetting the proc with fire damage.
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>>489951709
This is actually why ranni is the most liked character. She's the closest we have to an actual covenant or what you described. If you actually look at the cut content for base elden ring alone you'd see almost every questline was similar to ranni's in length and depth and made you feel like you were actually apart of something in world and not just a murderhobo. You could actually join mohg, millicent was malenia and grew attached to you as you aided her, you could side with miquella and he wasnt just a hypnorapist, Kale actually got a quest that gave a reason beyond reddit atheism to join the frenzy flame, sellen would allow you to purge yourself of the bloody finger and leave mohg's surface. Godfrey was an actual character and clearly your leader/ancestor it showed his relationship with marika was one of love and that he was in on everything from his banishment to the shattering from the start. Vyke had actual importance to the story and world beyond some frenzy nigger you fight in jail.
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>>489952148
fuck you, play bleed
no magic is better
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>>489952148
yes, cold is best. some extra magic damage can't compete at all. it's akin to almost always wanting bleed over poison or occult if arc.
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>>489952256
CURSE YOU MIYAZAKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>489951315
I think you may be an esl
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>>489952148
>does Cold dump all over Magic infusions?
It doesn't 'dump' on Magic
It 'shits' on Magic
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>>489952256
>>489952383
Oh and yura actually had an actual reason for why he can't use his sword properly. He expresses a rush and fear because shabriri was genuinely eating away at his brain and sanity
https://youtu.be/Mmu0lVOMTgM?si=uyWXYvSLmb_u3DcD
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Omen and hornsent are the same thing.
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Good morning, /erg/. I hate women.
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>>489952148
Cold is pointless for an INT user, it scales primarly with physical stats, and spells are better to inflict cold anyways.
Ranni's moon will apply a magic damage debuff and deal like 400 frost at the same time.
Adula's Blade also deals a ton of frost and is very spammable.
If you want a Cold weapon as an INT user just get the Dark Moon Greatsword.
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>>489952256
Yeah, ER does feel narratively empty for an open world. Real lack of questing and NPCs to interact with. It makes up for it in other areas though.
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>>489950950
>>489951071
>>489951596
Egirl here. What's wrong with what anon posted exactly? Everyone fakes interest in others to get masturbation material from them don't they? It's not like she was helping him blackmail them or anything
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>>489952256
Ranni's quest is also the one that is least FROM like and most similar to other RPGs. It's very clear what you need to do and why you need to do it usually, and the story and characters are easy enough to follow, even in a huge game where you may drop the questline for hours to do your own thing. Just goes to show that just because something is a genre standard does not mean it's bad.
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>>489952697
>questing and NPCs to interact with
I want to literally gut open world sloppers with a rusted knife.
Go play a fucking MMO.
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>>489952923
How about you fuck off and play Dark Souls.
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>Egirl here
Tits or gtfo
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>>489953104
See? What's wrong with using people for lewds
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No, but seriously guys, what weapon am I supposed to use for Dragon Communion runs?
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>>489952256
How the hell was all of that in the game files and why tf did they cut it. It sounds like my grievances with the game are mostly fixed that way.

>>489952697
It really should have been more like Skyrim. Guards should stop you instead of attacking on sight, unless they've seen you kill their allies or something. And talking about guards, wtf are they guarding, there's no cities in Elden Ring. There should be little towns at least
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>>489951752
The DLC ending redeems this
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>>489952256
I want to see proof of this because I've seen fan fiction being used to troll people about cut content.
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>>489953226
dragon king's cragblade
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>>489953276
All of that stuff you can find vids for. There's more too not mentioned there. Imagine all of the cut cool shit in ds3 that would've made it better like the more important Sullyvan stuff, but crank it up to 1000x. Even melina had more to say and wasn't just an exposition dumper.
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>>489953226
rivers of blood
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>>489953226
catch flame
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Do you bros play on PS5 or PC?
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>>489953276
>It really should have been more like Skyrim. Guards should stop you instead of attacking on sight, unless they've seen you kill their allies or something. And talking about guards, wtf are they guarding, there's no cities in Elden Ring. There should be little towns at least
Too much work for FROM, and they're inexperienced at creating believable settlements. The last time they had villages in their games was King's Field 2. And the lore justification for getting attacked is that you're Tarnished. Everyone sees you as a nutty mass murderer out to steal ruins, slay their Lord, and/or despoil everything.

As for populated settlements, they exist, you just never see or visit them. The Lands Between are abstracted. Leyndell itself is supposed to be so large that it would take days by horseback to travel between the outer and inner walls.
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>>489953226
moonveil
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>>489952256
>This is actually why ranni is the most liked character.
no, it's because of dumb as fuck males not realizing they're being manipulated the entire time.
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I still don't know how to dodge Bayles flying fire breath and radahns 3 hit scissor move.
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>>489952874
>>489952256
Ranni's questline is shit. It has none of the magic that FROM quest should have. It just gives you all the information.
>Get the fingerslayer blade from Nox.
No other FROM quest does this. It should feel convoluted and shizo, with weird triggers for events and NPCs who misdirect, speak in metaphor, or don't even tell you what they want you to do. That's half the fun.

>>489952697
How about no. It's a dead world. No villages, no NPCs telling you to get ________ for me please and divulging their life stories in dialogue.
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>>489953226
Occult weapons and ARC sombers.
FTH spells have low reqs, so just start as prophet and get the +10 tear and +5 talisman and you'll be able to cast literally every single DC incantation and a ton of regular ones while being able to focus entirely on VIG/ARC/MIND.
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I hope Miss Chalice cosplays Leda in her next lore ASMR video
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>>489953453
>>489953276
Here's some of what I mean
https://youtu.be/zpAc8zL2gDw?si=emAMp8kub_FbEtKE
https://youtu.be/HFwj4Qhdrug?si=WtHupTLhoUjLIRe0
https://youtu.be/0Cljs4UTdT8?si=Ani8IbhLUm6Q_tqj
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>>489953629
PS5
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>>489952685
>If you want a Cold weapon as an INT user just get the Dark Moon Greatsword.
What if you don't like greatswords? I'm not going to dis on their viability; they have the best two weapons in the game and I would consider them the most powerful weapon class in the game, but I've never liked the feel of their moveset.
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>>489953780
No one says it wasn't shit. It's just that every other quest is worse. Ds3 ds1 and bb had the best npc quests.
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>>489953226
I use a spear/great spears because Dragoons in FF use spears. Wyvern knight/generals use spears in FE. Dragon Communion hunters use those communion spears.
Slap Storm Assault or Crucible Wings and your set.
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>>489947382
This is the second time I see a post with a screen shot of some one I follow on Twitter.
Hmmm.....
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>>489953940
You still have the option of using Cold Skills on magic weapons so you get both the procs and magic AR, most of them will build up frost really fast and Chilling Mist buffs your weapon with Frost on top of creating a mist that has a ton of buildup.
Also resetting frost is pointless on pure INT builds because your damage is high enough that you'll be just wasting time by bothering with that.
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>>489949113
Sad, isn't it?
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>>489953780
The fact that Ranni's quest is a clear and concise quest instead of a schizophrenic mess of "I just ran into this dude in place A and then ran into that same dude on place B oh but he's now crazy cause I didn't meet him in place C"
The quests are the absolute worst shit from From's games (aside from the shit ass worthless lore) and them actually making a quest that finally makes sense should get applauded, regardless of your seething feelings over Ranni.
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>>489954156
I regularly stalk your Twitter I have a huge crush on you but know I'll get rejected if I pursue you
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>>489953226
>Flame Art/Sacred Bloodfiend Arm
>Flame Art/Sacred Bloodfiend Fork
>Bleed Fire Knight's Greatsword
>Bleed Queelign's Greatsword
>Bleed Black Steel Warhammer
>Bleed Black Steel Twinblade
Any other answers are coming from retards.
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Anyone willing to trade a dragon communion seal on seamless? I dont have a huge amount to give, nothing after the capital
My other person sold theirs so they cant give me theirs. I can give Blasphemous blade maybe?
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>>489954387
>seamless
You're already there just ce
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>>489953665
I know who this poster is. Have you gotten enough sleep? Wanna time our sleeping together to coop nap?
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>>489954439
I feel bad about it if I dont know that its somehow being deleted from someone else to like maintain the nonexistent economy
If no one ends up wanting to then I will but Im just being autistic about it
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What are your unpopular Elden Ring opinions?
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>>489954387
>>489954439
>>489954581
Seamless? More like shameless kek.
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>>489954640
Rannifags and marikafags are subhuman and goldmask is the corrrct choice. Marika is dead at the end only a jar for the elden ring.
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>>489954353
I genuinely pity people who use garbage weapons due to being mislead by ingame scaling letters.
The only good weapon you listed is the Bloodfiend Fork and maybe Arm, due to their scaling being the same as the Erdsteel Dagger and pre-nerf Smithscript weapons.

It's the same as people who try to use the Sword of Night and Flame and Rellana's swords on a FTH/INT build just to later say that INT/FTH is complete garbage because they used it with shit weapons instead of using good weapons and skills from both INT and FTH.
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>>489954640
I like the open world.
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>>489954640
It captured some of the stuff I liked from Dark Souls 1 that no other game they've made managed to capture.
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>>489954679
NO
NOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>489954842
>It captured some of the stuff I liked from Dark Souls 1 that no other game they've made managed to capture.

Examples? Why not DS2, BB or DS3?
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>>489954735
>Blood Fire Knight's Greatsword
>bad
Holy fuck you are so stupid I can barely even comprehend it.
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>>489954735
>It's the same as people who try to use the Sword of Night and Flame and Rellana's swords on a FTH/INT build just to later say that INT/FTH is complete garbage because they used it with shit weapons instead of using good weapons and skills from both INT and FTH.
There are no INT/FTH weapons aside from those you idiot. Your magic erdsteel and flame art clayman are shit.
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>>489954640
Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Elden Ring are literally a piece of art. It's like a Mona Lisa painting.

DSII started off under the direction of Tomohiro Shibuya. It was going to be even more open world. They got a lot done, but Bamco came down on them and forced them to scrap half the game. They put Yui Tanimura in charge who had to pick up the pieces 6 months from launch. Bamco originally designated DS2 to be a PS4 game and then decided that nope, we're actually putting it on the PS3, which forced the downgrade. DS2 had half the dev time of DS1 because of the lost year with the first director that was shitcanned.

Dark Souls 3 however is just a obligation using rehashed Bloodborne assets. It was just a cash grab more than anything else and you can feel the lack of soul in the game. Miyazaki didn't even really want to make it but he was under contract to Bamco.

The Ringed City is directed by HIdetaka Miyazaki and is meta commentary on the state of Dark Souls franchise, which he accurately called a PILE OF RUBBISH via the ingame npc. It also gave a definitive his DEFINITIVE END to the IP and franchise. Miyazaki escapes into the painting, taking the BLOOD OF THE DARK SOUL (meaning the original inspiration and creative passion that made him make Dark Souls) and creating A NEW WORLD (new games) to ESCAPE TO. He confirmed in an interview that HE IS DONE with Dark Souls IP forever, he ESCAPED tha garbage that the Dark Souls IP has become thanks to Dark Souls 2 and Dark Souls 3. If a Dark Souls 4 is made in the far future, he won't be involved with it. He dabbed so hard on Bandai Scamco and the modern Souls "fans"

>Painter Girl is Miyazaki who wants to create new places (Bloodborne, Sekiro, Elden Ring, etc)

Miyazaki is already talking about a new game that fit his ideal fantasy more than Elden ring.
Tanimura also came up with the "light greatswords" weapon type by the way (Loyce Greatsword)
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What if we were to port Dark Souls 2 into Elden Ring's engine?
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>>489955180
Why is Miyazaki even involved with Bamco at this point. Doesn't Fromsoft have enough money to fuck off and create what they want without any trash MBA suits barking at them
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>>489955260
It'd still be the worst game in the series. Do it with Bloodborne instead.
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>>489954919
Not giving them. Not Elaborating.
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>>489955260
Elden Ring is basically a remake of the Dark Souls 2 original concept

>Demon's Souls map in Elden Ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF6ChqOC1Y8

Now this is kino and looks better than DeSR
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>>489954640
I THINK /ERG/ POSTERS ARE CUTE I LIKE TALKING TO YOU ALL EVEN WHEN WE ARGUE
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>>489955168
There's no point in using "INT/FTH" weapons, because those are just split damage weapons.
Most of those weapons don't even work like other hybrids, while STR/ARC or DEX/ARC get physical AR from both stats, INT/FTH weapons are split damage abominations where FTH and INT only scale their respective damage types.
The thing that actually works with INT/FTH are the catalysts because those get their scaling number boosted by both stats equally.

Dark Moon Sword, Moonveil, or a regular weapon with Waves of Darkness, Blackflame Tornado, Flaming Strike are going to be way better on a build like this because those skills are actually good and can be put on good weapon types.
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>>489954640
I prefer threads that talk more about characters and lore than weapon stats or pvp
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>lvl 120-150
>minmaxing optimized builds without a point wasted

>lvl 200+
>just dumping points for RP reasons
>why yes, I'm a big brain who can cast all sorceries and incantations

Anyone else?
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>>489955705
>Just use weapons that waste half the stat investment from your build bro!
Holy shit anon you're a GENIUS!
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>>489955721
Headcanon. No one does that.
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God the dragonform looks like shit and ass
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>>489955835
I'm RL200 and my build is min/maxed without a single point wasted though?
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>>489956147
Raping this retard type a
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>>489956280
What's so retarded about it? It's a good build anon.
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>>489956147
made for cock
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>>489956312
Really guys?
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>>489956069
Wish you could make the arms and legs bigger. Wish there were a character slider for dragon forms.

At least it beats ds3 by a mile.
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Are there a loli mod?
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>>489956008
You're not getting anything from that "investment"
It's just a fact that there isn't a single weapon in the game that gets proper hybrid scaling for INT/FTH(both physical and elemental ARs being raised by those stats alone like how every other hybrid works)
At the softcap of the Staff of the Great beyond, 43/43, a Broadsword with a buff ash like Fire Spear or Sacred Blade will have the same AR of the SoNaF, but deal way more damage due to not being a triple-split weapon.
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>>489956619
>SPLIT DAMAGE IS LE BAD
In PvP where flat resistances exist yes. In PvE split damage is a straight upgrade u less you're fighting a boss with sky high resistance (like over 50%) to your chosen element(s).
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>Promised Consort """"Radahn""""

>only has 3 gravity attacks, 2 of which shoot up huge amounts of rocks from the floor
>NONE of his attacks in the base game shot up rocks from the floor, but tons of Godfrey's did (it's even the exact same VFX)
>no horse or floaty movements, both vital parts of his original fight's mechanics and his character design
>no bow despite bow attacks being a big part of his original move set
>no ranged spells at all besides the one rock throw move despite his original fight having several ranged spells
>his swords have completely different proportions

and yet...
>sword combos are all very similar to the dual-axe Godwyn Death Knight
>uses rock-shooting stomp attacks like Godfrey
>uses several shockwave moves that inflict physical instead of magic damage and are grey instead of purple - unlike his original shockwave attacks but like Godfrey's
>second phase has tons and tons of golden Holy blasts
>both of his Remembrance Ashes of War are Holy, and his weapons deal physical/Holy damage

You will never convince me that he's not a reskinned Godwyn. Literally the only attack he uses that seems like something Starscourge Radahn would do is his reworked Rock Sling.
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>>489954919
By far the most interesting aspect of DaS to me was the way the world worked and connected around, looping back on itself and stuff like that, along with the openness to kinda tackle the (at least early) parts of the game as you want. Whatever path you took, you always knew you'd find something.
ER managed to capture that. Yes, the Catacombs and Caves were all same ass barely dungeons but you always knew you could find multiple things there and while rarely you would find something for your build exactly, you could often find things that made you go "oooh I wanna try that" in some fashion. Going completely blind on my first run was the right choice (I played late so basically everything was already mapped out).
None of the other souls games really capture that same twirling world design.DaS1 and 2 are basically straight corridors for the entire game. Bloodborne is PS3 jail and I've only been able to play it disjointedly so I can't opine on that.
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>>489956735
Why are you using Godfrey imitation as evidence he's resigned Godwyn you retarded lorelet? Radahn literally idolized Godfrey, him copying him makes perfect sense. Also this is moot because nothing in Radahn's animation or model data suggests he's connected to Godwyn at all. Contrast this to the Putrescent Knight who's model name suggests he was originally connected to the GEQ. Godwyn was never planned to be the final boss.
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>>489956443
What is going on? I used to be straight. Having sex with women used to be good. Doesn't anymore. Feels kinda bad these days. What's going on? Men used to wear their armor normally, now they're fags. And the Democratic party... wants this. California, used to be filled with Raisins. Now it's filled with garbage that I can't stop shoving up my ass. Thought Tree Sentinel was straight? Guess again, he's actually from Sacramento California. Growing up I had pictures of him all over my bedroom. I wanted to be a tough cowboy just like him but it turns out he's a california homosexual. Used to be able to upgrade your weapons on the fly, not anymore. Now if you want your weapons upgraded you have to bend over in a bathroom in front of AOC's boyfriend. What's going on?
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>>489957030
Kek, thank you for reading my dumb filename and making this. Cheers anon, I needed that chuckle tonight.
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>>489950684
yes, she is.
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>>489957000
>Radahn literally idolized Godfrey, him copying him makes perfect sense
But not as the Starscourge for some reason. And conveniently he doesn't use any moves actually specific to Radahn except for one that could've been reskinned at the last second and recycles old VFX.

>nothing in Radahn's animation or model data suggests he's connected to Godwyn at all
Why does he fight exactly like a Death Knight?
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>>489957234
>Why does he fight exactly like a Death Knight?
He doesn't and I'm tired of you retards insisting otherwise. First of all the death knight spin is VERY different from Radahn's drill attack you fuckers always use as an example and secondly Radahn did that exact same move in the fucking base game.
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>>489956719
I disagree about it being an upgrade, unless the numbers are higher it's pretty much the same thing.
And like I said, the sonaf has basically the same AR of an infused ss, and much lower AR than bigger weapon types infused with an element.
Rellana's swords are even worse because they aren't even triple split damage weapons, each sword is either phys+mag or phys+fire.

I just wish From would've made a weapon similar to the coded-sword and cypher pata but with an INT/FTH theme and pure Fire/Magic or Holy/Magic AR, which would made sense considering all the Finger stuff in the DLC and the Staff of the Great Beyond.
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>>489957137
I have an intense urge to have Malenia cuddle me in bed like I'm a teddy bear
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>>489954581
is that onlyafro?
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What boss did you have problems with that you don't see anybody else say they had a problem with?

Me personally, even though they used to be complained about a lot more than now, any boss that has a Crucible Knight or two of them, I will falter immediately. Something about the Crucible Knight moveset just clicks some kind of button in my head and I can't play well at all against it.
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>>489957813
Malenia
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>>489957813
I legitimately hate runebears more than I hate Maelnia's waterfowl
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>>489957456
>I disagree about it being an upgrade, unless the numbers are higher it's pretty much the same thing
And split damage is always higher than pure physical so I'm not sure what point you're making here. In PvE it's just better.
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>>489957813
This fucker. My build wasn't suited for him the camera fuckery and his constant teleporting and aoe gravity moves gave me a ton of trouble the first time I encountered him. Even now on my 6th playthrough he's still a fight I hate even if I beat him on the first try.
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>>489957234
>But not as the Starscourge for some reason.
As the starscourge he wasn't conscious. He was a raging monster driven by a rotting brain. He's not going to use refined techniques he enjoys in that state, he's going to let his gravity powers go wild and fight like a beast.
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>with enough fucking around with talismans and gear, you can use ansbach's bow at level 30
neat
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>>489958223
Depends on the build honestly.
Pure STR with a heavy 2h weapon and Cragblade or any skill that specifically boosts phys AR has higher numbers than pretty much all split weapons.
And I wasn't talking about phys vs regular elemental weapons, but about single element weapons vs triple split ones.
The only triple split weapons that I think are worth it are the FTH ones that have innate holy infused with Flame Art or innate fire infused with Sacred, because both their elements get scaling from the single FTH stat and they can even have a skill that buffs them with even more AR on top of that.
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>>489958663
Buffing skills like cragblade are boring and soulless.
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>>489958238
I still have no idea how you are supposed to dodge his shadow clone no jutsu one hit kill grab
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>>489956735
To be fair, i think Godfrey learnt that move from Marika / Radagon since Radagon has his own "stomp" version too

Same for Morgott
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>>489958825
I actually like a good chunk of the buff skills.
Flaming Strike and Sacred Blade are good even without considering the buff.
Messmer's stuff is cool too.
The Roars are also neat because they buff your weapon and alter its moveset.

I only use Cragblade when I want to buff a weapon that has a naturally fun moveset, like the Messmer Soldier Spear.
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>>489957030
This post made me laugh. Also I'm gay.
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To the person who asked the other day what spirit summon to use on Golden Hippo because Latenna wasn't useful, the Greatshield Goons absolutely mogs him. I killed Hippo with them and 3 of them still had way more than half health left afterwards.
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>>489959339
The shield dudes are extremely strong against anything that can't get past their guard.
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>get a controller with paddles
>don't have to contort my hand into a retarded crab claw anymore because I can just bind crouch (jump is L3), sprint/dodge and the button combos for two-handing to them
It's sad that paddles will never become industry standard.
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>>489958429
his Starscourge attacks are literally more complex
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>>489914537
The vision of what DS2 has definitely lived on in Elden Ring and became what DS2 was unable to do due to the many problems that game had

They both tell the story of a queen who convinced her badass warrior husband to go kill all the giants for her so she could advance het own agenda and then betrayed him once he was no longer of use.

Both DS3 and ER have tons of influence from DS2, especially in terms of core mechanics and balance changes.
Yui Tanimura, the DS2 was director, worked alongside Miyazaki on both these games as co-director.
Tons of ideas got ported over nearly 1:1 because they worked very well:

>estus shard/golden seed system
>midroll up to 70% weight
>rolling in any direction while locked on
>effigy/ember/rune arc useable at any time and get HP back to max or get stat boost via great rune effects
>hit stun limit in PvP to prevent infinite stunlocks
>casting magic also consumes stamina to limit perpetual spam
>backstabs have 2 way confirmation via a grab animation
>guardbreak on a blocking enemy allows for a riposte
>jumping attacks on all weapons unpariable
>ultra/colossal weapons unpariable when 2H, except rolling/running attacks
>reasonable poise/hyperarmor levels that allowed for strategic trades but not facetanking endgame bosses
>parry frames active at the apex of the shield swing, not instantly at the start
>4 ring slots so you can still have some interesting synergies and use of niche effects instead of having 90% of players just put on Havel's ring and Ring of Favor
>blue sentinels to save hosts from invaders
>limited respec
>power stancing with any 2 weapons of the same class (only ER)
>rolling in poison/rot covers you and build up the status (only ER)
>rolling in water raises fire def by 20% and lowers lightning def by 20% (only ER)
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>>489959614
I'll never understand this retarded mentality that claw grip is mandatory. I've been playing FROM games since fucking Armored Core 2 and I've never ONCE needed it.
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Is the Heavy Great Katana a good enough STR weapon to warrant getting 18 dex for it?
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>>489959851
It makes it easier to roll/sprint while controlling the camera at the same time. I didn't even know there was a name for it at one point, I just kinda started holding the controller like that one day once I got better at playing unlocked.
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>>489960318
I've never once had an issue with this. I have sprint/roll bound to X, and it's very easy to keep the knuckle of my thumb over that button for pressing/holding while controlling the camera.
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>doing a taunter's tongue run with a friend
>person with 1.5 full seconds of latency we've fought multiple times BMs us when they finally win
>check their profile
>no country
>check their comments
>everyone telling them they lag like a motherfucker
>see they have 2 reviews on Steam
>check them
>Chinese
>mfw
Easiest racism of my life

>>489960225
It's extremely good on any build, and the base great katana is the one you'd want to use for STR
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>>489960225
>>489960546
Great Katana isn't a STR weapon, it scales best on quality.
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Literally every single invader I got invaded by tonight was spamming the shit out of hefty pots. Is this the new meta? It's incredibly easy to dodge in a 1v1 or 2v1, so I don't know why they bother, but in a 2v2 it's obnoxious as fuck.

>>489959614
Aren't paddles patented by some company with a monopoly?
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>>489960858
they're actually incredibly easy to farm, even rot ones
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>>489957813
I spent like a full hour getting filtered by the crucible knight duo on a recent playthrough because I went in underleveled for the tree sentinel armor set and thought
>I'm here already and I don't want to walk back to the entrance to leave
>I'm sure it'll be fine
They're bastards in any duo fight.
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>>489957030
gem
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>>489960958
Even the rock ones? That's mostly what I saw. And someone who was using furnace pots. And a couple lightning pots. No rot, surprisingly.
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>>489960623
Everything scales best in Quality, but it requires a lot more investment to get ahead
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>>489961126
yeah rock ones are easy
the only hard ones to farm are furnace and madness so if people use those, you can assume they're cheated in
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>>489960623
>it scales best on quality.
lol
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>>489961390
Where are you supposed to farm the rocks? I never found a good spot near a grace.
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>>489961481
There's a good spot near the CHEAT ENGINE Grace.
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>>489961481
don't let too many people know
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>>489961660
Thank you based map marker user
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>>489961223
No, it really doesn't. Even at RL125 it's best on quality.
>>489961403
Retard.
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>you can kill Radahn with mimic veil
this might be the funniest cheese in fromsoft history
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>>489961878
Explain. Now.
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>>489962018
>he doesn't know about the mimic veil queso
Lol
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>>489961784
Maybe if you have like 20 vig lmfao
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>>489960623
>>489961403
>>489960225
You're all wrong
It scales best on dex
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>>489962098
So you're just shitposting and it doesn't exist then, got it. I'll ignore you now.
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>get summoned for radahn
haha, everyone is going to die and there’s nothing I can do to save them. Similar to how Malenia felt but somehow worse because he just gets an obscene amount of health when you summon
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>>489954640
Elden Ring doesn't actually do ANYTHING particularly well and FromSoftware only did it out of passionless obligation for Bandai Namco which drove them to buy the rights back so they don't have to again
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>>489962220
Does blackflame work on Radahn?
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>>489961784
Please post your RL125 quality build. I'm very curious to see your distribution.
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>>489962220
"Obscene" doesn't even begin to describe it. If you summon twice his health literally multiplies 5 fucking times over. It's genuinely disgusting how much health he gets.
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I've heard this can work well for ER. Any of you complete faglords tried it?
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>>489962542
good
fuck coop niggers
should be 10x
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>>489962561
Why would you use this instead of the dlss/fsr mod
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I'm on a STR build right now, but the Godslayer Greatsword feels really fun and busted even at +8. How should I respec to get the most out of this weapon?
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>>489962572
I don't care about coop. It makes him fucking impossible to fight if I want to bring my bois Ansbach and Thiollier because they make the fight 5 times harder since the boss has 5 times more health and they don't help AT ALL.
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>>489962018
I don't know if this works with mimic but I saw a video of a guy using stealth +rot +poison to cheese radhan
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>>489962637
It's mediocre. Wait for the DLC and use the fire knights greatsword instead since you can heavy infuse that and keep your build. It has the same R1s as the godslayer and better R2s.
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good morning erg, what's new?
Golden arcs are very good, does anyone know their posture damage values? I was surprised to see them break poise. Multilayered rings is even better at it, and both look very nice
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>>489962635
I like messages, bloodstains, phantoms and stuff. If they could implement that stuff in a seamless style mod I would play w. EAC off
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>>489962784
should've thought about that before summoning
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I'm really not good at designing builds using online tools. How do you guys do it?
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Anyone tried fighting PCRadahn with the sekiro tear yet? I'm not sure if it's possible. I've been doing a sekiro tear playtrough and it was fine for the whole thing, but phase 2 PCR has those pillars of light that keep stagering you even if you get the deflects correct, and they make it impossible to guard counter because you just get staggered out of the animation. I even tried it with 100 poise and the pillars still stagger you
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>tfw repeatedly shitting on stormveil twinks
I love it. It's better than killing password phantoms.
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>>489962891
If you beat Radahn without summoning them, you played on easy mode. YDBTG.
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>>489963070
I beat him with the Sekiro tear. The key is to mix blocking with rolling. You are gonna run out of poise and stamina real fast if you stick to blocking only
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>>489962435
yes but dlc bosses have special protection against black flame, some (including Radahn) lose 0.5% instead of 2% iirc. Someone in this thread same protection applies to other types of %-based dmg
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>>489963071
got any webms?
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>>489963223
But like, what did you do about phase 2? I just can't guard counter him, even if i have stamina the lingering pillars of light keep staggering me out of the GC animation
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>>489963071
5 bucks says you yourself are also a stormveil twink.
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>>489963135
Can you explain how the health scaling for that fight works? Does summoning just add an instant multiplier to his current and maximum health, or does it just add multiple healthbars worth of health to him?
In other words, could you soften him up to 10% health, summon cooperators, and then only have to deal with a smaller increase to his current health than if you summoned from the start?
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>>489957137
>uneven surface
I accept your concession.
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>>489963254
Unironically do you have a source for that? That's insanely fucking stupid if true, I'd start believing the "fromshart only cares about difficulty for difficulty's sake" memers if that's the case.
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>>489956147
>level 200 shitter can't make a build to save his life
>less END than FP
>fugly character

I hope this is a shitpost anon
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>>489963496
gardenofeyes has a video about it, you can check yourself, anecdotal evidence from erg and other forums seems to agree with his testing
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>>489963271
>He does that four hit combo that end with an AOE "Stomp"
Roll to his right / your left. Gotta learn the timing here, you get one free attack, heal after he is done
>He does that four consecutive attacks where he dashes at you and briefly turned into light
Sekiro, you get one free hit / heal after he is done. The timing is pretty brief though so you might want to just let your stamina recovers
>He charges and turn into light, dashing at you
Run to his right / your left. Roll / Sekiro if you are not confident that you are out of his range.
>He gravity pulls you in and then shit AOE all over your face
You either try to sekiro his pull or it is two heals easy here. I actually haven't managed to figure this one out yet

I think the Radahn fight is all about learning about when to heal, when to attack and when to let your stamina recovers. You don't always have to guard counter when the opportunity presents itself, sometime it is more important to conserve your flasks / stamina
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>>489940508
Stop lewding good boy.
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>>489952256
Ranni won...
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Do you think there's any connection between Rykard and Messmer? Specially the god devouring serpent and volcano manor. I've been wondering if volcano manor was Messmer's home before he was stricken from the records. And it feels weird that Messmer is cursed with some snakes or something but its not really elaborated on if that actually means anything.
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>>489963347
That's not how summoning works anon. You can't summon midfight.
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>>489963664
I don't need more stamina than the END I need to carry my gear provides, I use this logic for every single one of my builds and do fine in both PvE and PvP, why would I pump END more? It's a waste of points. Also 23 MND is required. My build is fine and I look great, you're clearly upset though so I hope whatever you're going through gets resolved soon bro.
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>>489964332
I think those are the same species of snake, just that Messmer snake was sealed / suppressed by Marika and the only thing it fed on was his Giant flame.

Rykard snake got all fat and stronk from all the people he ate
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>>489961223
There’s a exception to the rule, for some reason guardian swordspear rejects the fuck out of anything that isn’t keen.
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>>489964332
It doesn't seem to be the same kind of snake since mesmer's has no mention of the whole undying thing, which is a big part of rykard's>>489964334
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>>489921549
>>no frenzied sorceries
It feels like this is begging to exist since there's a conspicuous absence of any sun themed sorcery and frenzy flame would fit that perfectly.
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>>489925093
ds3. poisecasting sunlight spears was hilarious and based. And it was very rare for fights to be over in one or two seconds.
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>>489964467
>>489964609
It would be funny to think about. The land's between just has a local species of snake that can possess and devour gods if you arn't careful. Them being two unrelated snake gods is pretty weird though, it would be like if Messmer had a rot based power but was completely unrelated to the scarlet rot, just looked a lot like it and had a butterfly motif as well.
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Do thorn incants bleed build up get buffed by arcane scaling stats at all?
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>>489964985
You mean sorceries? There aren't any thorns incants. That said, yes, they do, but ONLY if your staff you're casting with also has ARC scaling.
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>>489933854
faith
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>>489965082
Oh yes, my bad. Yeah i knew they were cast with staves but somehow i thought theyre incant. I found the calculator and yeah no wonder 45 arc is consideres the softcap you get a massive boost drom 30 to 45
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>>489964448
could have 50 mind at that level
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>>489955180
I maintain that DS2's story is commentary on the game's development. Vendrick is the original director who went mad and his work left unfinished and his kingdom in ruins, Nashandra is Bamco who ruined it all driven by greed, Aldia is Tanimura left to make sense of it all. Shanalotte stands for DS2 as it was ultimately released, by her own word born imperfect.
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>>489965610
I don't need 50 MND. I can justify every single stat point in that build.
>60 VIG
Obvious
>23 MND
Needed to cast all my buffs from a full FP bar and for some of my incant combos I use in PvP. I need exactly 23, no more no less.
>21 END
Needed to carry my shit and I don't need more stamina.
>22 STR
Needed to one hand the sword, which I do quite a bit for casting.
>70 DEX
Primary AR stat on the sword (blood infused) and gives me the cast speed cap.
>38 FTH
Needed for Blessing of the Erdtree
>45 ARC
Bleed cap on the sword and cast cap on the DCS.

Literally not a single point to spare and even if I had any, I'd just be lower RL. This is the logical stopping point for the build.
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>>489965903
Based hyper-specialised optimiser.
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>>489939664
>belly that flat
Your Great Jagras looks hungry, be careful.
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>>489955835
Who gives a fuck?
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>manga seluvis threaten to puppet roderika and nepheli without your help if you disobey him
If pidia was not immune I'd make killing him the first order of buisness on every playthrough
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What is the formula for spell or incant damage/spell status build up?
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The game would improve if they got rid of open world dragon fights.
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What's the best emote to hit tryhard twinks with? Teabagging is too crude. Pointing down is too basic. Clapping is too ambiguous.

I'm thinking the cower in fear emote would be good.
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Whats the lowest level any of you queers have twinked through the DLC?
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>>489966374
Don't you think it would be pretty cool to have Roderika and Nepheli puppets?
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>>489966495
It depends entirely on your chosen catalyst. Also status build-up doesn't go up unless you level ARC and your catalyst has ARC scaling. It's worth noting however that Bloodflame incantations don't go up in blood build-up with ARC, but they are the only exception.
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>>489966582
you're a fucking carian knight build, just hit it w your BBBAA
>big blue bow and arrows
>>489966591
waving while spinning in a circle, then spam two hand LB, then backstepping until disconnect
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>>489966709
>you're a fucking carian knight build
He's not, check again.
>>489966582
>STR/FTH build dressed like a carian knight
Disgusting.
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>>489966582
>main game dragons are by design easier to fight by targeting the head, everyone is happy
>DLC dragons will not stop moving and will not give you any opportunity to hit them on the head at melee range, back to the good old whacking the leg
Why.
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>>489966582
>Carian Knight uses FTH
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>>489966745
nigga eeeeuuuuuuu
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>>489966591
>emote
None, the instant they're dead act as if they never existed, make them feel how unimportant they are despite their main character syndrom.
If you tbag them or something else they'll say to themselves they deserved to win but you had host advantage.
If you ignore them they will have no choice but to admit they are nothing
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>>489957456
>Rellana's swords are even worse because they aren't even triple split damage weapons, each sword is either phys+mag or phys+fire.
This pisses me off to no end. they're just shitty weapon art sticks. LITERALLY no different from just using a magic and a flame art milady in both hands. In fact, that would do more damage.
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>>489966616
All I did was collect the blue dew for my 22 +3/1 mage.
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>>489966669
Why stop there? There are more women in the lands between. Seluvis/Pidia is my role model.
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the dex cast speed meme is a stupid meme which is only possible at level 200.
Only at 200 can you afford to put 60 points into dex and still think about hitting all the requirements for casting spells.
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>>489965903
>>60 VIG
>Obvious
Actually, 54/55 is the most optimal vig point to stop at. Beyond that you are investing 5 whole points into vig for literally less than 100 HP.
>Needed to cast all my buffs from a full FP bar and for some of my incant combos I use in PvP. I need exactly 23, no more no less.
Can always do with more, it saves you a flask sip considering that you need over 40 mnd before you can't fill an entire blue bar.
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>>489966961
Okay? And? At lower RLs get 40 DEX and use the Radagon Icon you retard.
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>>489966582
The game would improve if the fucking camera could be zoomed out. Like 80% of the difficulty reading bosses is down to the camera not letting me see what it is they're doing.
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Next person that mentions ds3 is getting their butt stuffed by me
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>>489967001
Nah I need 60 VIG, I'm in NG+7 and beyond. The amount of times I've survived in PvE and PvP with sub-100 HP is astounding.
>Can always do with more
Nope, I only need 23. Pumping MND to capitalize on the blue flask is only something I'd ever consider on a pure caster (which I find boring, so none of my characters do this).
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Midir is a better boss fight than any dragon in ER. They really peaked.
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>>489966745
>>489966810
>>489966819
>caring about this kind of stuff
Even my autism doesn't run that deep. I don't care what I look like.
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>>489967234
Nah Placidusax is the best dragon boss in the entire series. True kino.
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>>489967195
>The amount of times I've survived in PvE and PvP with sub-100 HP is astounding.
If you think so, personally I've never needed the extra ~71 HP, but I can't count the number of times I need just one more point in end or just a couple more in some base req in order to to really open the build up.
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>>489967234
Alright lube or not?
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>>489967278
youre why the RPG genre is dead
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>>489967319
I've just gotten really good at stamina management on a budget since it's fundamentally the same as energy management in armored core which I've been playing since the PS2 days. I don't like spending points on END for anything aside from carry weight since the stamina gains are just so damn small. It's worth noting though that I do pump END on shield builds (and my build with the Star-Lined Sword because holy fuck that thing is a gas guzzler) for stamina, typically to 34, but that's just so I can block the world. I definitely don't need more MND or any of the damage stats though. You could argue I could push DEX to 80 for the AR cap, but since it's blood infusion the AR gains are small, even if it is the primary stat. Once it stops double dipping into cast speed DEX just ain't worth it for this build anymore.
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>>489966825
Pairing Rellana's sword in the right hand with a Magic Milady actually makes the weapon a lot more bearable and it has decent AR and access to the 1h moveset of the LGS.
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>>489967527
THE RPG GENRE IS DEAD BECAUSE I CANT LICK MELINAS OR SELLENS OR NEPHELIS OR RYAS OR RODERIKAS OR RENNALAS OR RANNIS OR LEDAS OR MARIKAS FEET

This is how you sound.
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>>489967569
Btw
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>>489967649
dang
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>>489967720
You good lil bro?
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>>489967749
Yeah I bet you're so fucking upset there's not a cutscene of you tongue cleaning ledas feet after she stomps out the hornsent in her boots aren't you? Cringe
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>>489967843
is you good
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>>489967279
Eh, he's not that special. My +10 Latenna shot them full of holes.
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>>489967931
Fight him without spirit ashes and you'll actually have fun.
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>>489967001
50 vig is all that's needed
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Alternative ending where if you do Ranni's quest before the DLC but also told her about Seluvis plans, then do the DLC and Sir Ansbach's quest but come back and tell Ranni her brother is being manipulated, you get her summon before Radahn in the DLC but it wears her on your back.

Then if you have the Amber starlight still and fight Radahn down to 10 percent health and let him grab you on purpose and use the amberlight that was meant to turn Ranni into a puppet while in a grab, she'll grab Miquella and give him the amberlight forcing him to be a puppet for you and you get an alternative dlc ending where you get to free Radahn and he becomes an NPC that sits around his boss arena like Renalla did and offers free duels against him any time you want so you can replay the boss infinitely and save Radahn.
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>>489968005
10 VIG is all that's needed
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How do you guys know which cracked pots and other limited items you've grabbed god FUCK this skress me out
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>>489968005
Nah you still get respectable gains up to 55
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>>489968084
Or you can get him as a summon for radabeast and he promises to help look after the world after you and ranni fuck off
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>>489967843
I'd find it hot that Leda curbstomped a hornsent regardless of whether or not I get to caress her legs and kiss her thighs
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>>489968084
alternative ending where rya rides on your back during the fight and says 'oh!' cutely when you get hit
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>>489968215
I don't want 55 vig. Stop being jewish. A nice even round 50 looks better. 55 gives me the shakes and a headache I need every Stat to end with a 0 or even number last time i didn't i overleveled and ended up scratching my arm pretty badly irl.
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>>489968313
>50
Get 40 chud.
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>host completely covers Messmer with Rotten Breath
>can't see him beelining towards me with the grab attack
>get grabbed and die
Next time I see a host use a breath attack I'm gonna Thiollier Concoction myself out of spite
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>>489968197
map markers
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>>489968352
No. I'll beat you with a ladle.
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>>489968313
You're the one being Jewish by refusing to spend stat points like precious shekels. Get 60 VIG Goldstein.
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>>489968313
I almost cut myself when I accidentally wrnt a higher level than I meant to but I figured out how to use cheat engine to reduce it back down and so didn't have to make a new character
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If you think about it if you could get rid of the mold over malenia's vagina it's probably disgusting looking. You remember blue waffle? It's likely that by red, red from the iritation on her skin, red from the rot itself, instead of queefs it'd be mini versions of the rot breath smell, shed probably have puss filled growths around and in her vagina as well, that area would be permanently raw in intense pain like she'd likely take more damage from you sticking your cock into her than attacking her normally
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>>489968313
I actually stop at 54 because that brings you up to 1793 or something. And it matches with the str 2h hardcap and a couple other specific stat caps.
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>>489968313
>>489968451
The mentally healthiest Elden Ring players btw
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>>489966582
Game would improve if they didn't cater to shitter retards like you
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>>489968672
Fight still looks like shit lol
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>>489968672
>melee
Disgusting. I mean, I do it, too, but it's still disgusting.
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>>489968637
Thats pretty hot, I'd stuff some CE'd boluses up there and go to town. Slurp slurp nigga.
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>>489959826
>The vision of what DS2 has definitely lived on in Elden Ring and became what DS2 was unable to do due to the many problems that game had
Source: your retarded ass
>They both tell the story
The story and characters couldn't be nothing further away from Dark Souls 2. There's a lot of Dark Souls 3 plot beats and characters, and the idea of a large land with visible landmarks as you traverse the world was lifted from it.
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>>489966674
Isnt spell buff just a part of the formula?
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>>489968864
If you think about it if we sided with miquella he'd likely have cured malenia of her rot as a god as that was one of his goals. If you also think about it he would've seen how powerful we are and how we rival at minimum and at maximum surpass malenia in strength, malenia herself even saying that, he'd likely take us as his blade. And with his age of compassion I'd imagine miquella wouldn't mind if we married his sister, he'd likely encourage it to retain our support without needing to brainwash us, wouldn't need to brainwash us when malenia's freshly opened pussy can do it for him, allowing him more time to enact his age and have 3 of the strongest living beings in the setting, malenia, radahn, and us as his loyal followers. Us acting as miquella's blade, malenia acting as miquella's blade and our sheath, and radahn as his elden lord
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>>489969156
It's the entire formula. Incant damage goes off of spellbuff and spellbuff alone.
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>>489969235
Want to know a secret? There's literally a cut dlc ending where he demands we marry malenia. So you were right but they cut it. Likely because no one would choose any other ending since theyd be able to marry best girl whod be rot free and safely fuckable.
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>>489969271
THE DAMAGE COMES FROM SPELLBUFF AND SPELLBUFF ALONE!
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>>489969451
I'd take lessons from Mohg.
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What's the actual reasoning behind stuff like last minute quest replacements and rewriting the entire DLC plot etc.? Most of that stuff was likely finished and playable so would players really not have liked that version of Elden Ring?
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>>489966317
kek viglet with a shit build
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>>489933175
went from size 9 to 10 wide, had no idea till I went to buy boots but it makes sense because my old boots started killing me



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