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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#134 - New Vegas Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.
▶This is not a tech support thread. Visit to >>>/g/ for that.

>News
Llama 3.1 8B/70B/205B and Mistral Large 2 released https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3-1 | https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407
GPT-4o mini, multimodal, 60% cheaper than 3.5-turbo https://openai.com/index/gpt-4o-mini-advancing-cost-efficient-intelligence
Claude 3.5 Sonnet, outperforms Opus, with 2x the speed and 1/5 the cost https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-5-sonnet
Seeing all cards in chub now needs logged in, enabled nsfw/nsfl and cleared blacklist

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://chub-archive.evulid.cc
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
https://rentry.org/charcardrentrylist

>Guides
https://docs.sillytavern.app - https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Jailbreaks
https://rentry.org/jb-listing

>Frontends
https://sillytavern.app [SillyTavern]
https://agnai.chat [Agnai]
https://risuai.xyz [RisuAI]

>Models
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs
local: >>>/g/lmg
https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP#vg
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
try these -> https://rentry.org/weirdbutfunjailbreaksandprompts - https://rentry.org/jinxbreaks
logs: https://chatlogs.neocities.org
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list

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>ANCHOR
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guro anchor
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independent ending mogs
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foxes with comically large ears
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not using the wheelbake
someone make a city escape thread
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>>490159350
>not using the wheelbake
you just posted in it. welcome home
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>>490159237
>tap her on the back
>she turns around
>everything within a fifteen meter radius has been flung into a different spot from the sheer movement of air
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remilia
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>>490159237
she look so DUMB and STUPID haha, fucking dumbo ears LOSER haha betcha she can fly with them big aas ears
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>>490159762
where can i run flux?
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>>490159762
when are we getting artist style LORAs for flux
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>>490159774
Stop being so rude or else...
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>>490160204
large eared freak, even dumbo is envious
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>>490159971
On your PC
>>490159995
Get to training!
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Today is paizuri day, anons.
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>>490158852
Phryne is your stereotypical dragon, always seeking more money and power as her natural instincts command her to. Comes with two time period scenarios, a modern one where she's the head of a massive company and a medieval one where she lives under a mountain with her massive hoard. Also, dragonfire is stored in the breasts.

Greetings:
1. (Modern) You're living at her mansion as one of her prizes. She's just come home from a busy day of work.
2. (Modern) You're in business negotiations with her. But for what, exactly?
3. (Modern) You're selling your business to her, but she wants a better deal. Negotiate!
4. (Modern) It's been far too long since she's expulsed any flames, and her sacs (breasts) have grown large and swollen. Now she needs you, her trusty assistant to help her get it all out!
5. (Medieval) She's lounging by a pool of lava and asks you, one of her treasures to come cuddle.
6. (Medieval) You're an adventurer of sorts, having come to her cave. Will you slay her and take the treasure for yourself, or do you have other goals?

https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/phryne-d4c058c42e81
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Phryne.png

I also added a new section to my Neocities page, themes!
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/#themes
I currently have two themes up there, with examples and background images included.
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>>490160278
don't call her dumbo wtf she's smart
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>>490160637
Every day is paizuri day.
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>>490160385
>On your PC
lemme just pull a 3090 and 2 more ram sticks out of my arse
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>>490161223
you can run flux with nf4 quants in 16gb and reasonable gen times:
https://huggingface.co/lllyasviel/flux1-dev-bnb-nf4
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Before I forget and let this log wilt away in a folder somewhere, I'll just post it here. This was on Sonnet 3.0, which acts a lot more schizo with my preset even after I cut it down slightly. Having Claude make comments (in this case the :) ) is heartwarming though, I've missed that.
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>>490161691
>16GB
You mean 6-8GB. From the repo:
>For GPUs with 6GB/8GB VRAM, the speed-up is about 1.3x to 2.5x (pytorch 2.4, cuda 12.4) or about 1.3x to 4x (pytorch 2.1, cuda 12.1). I test 3070 ti laptop (8GB VRAM) just now, the FP8 is 8.3 seconds per iteration; NF4 is 2.15 seconds per iteration (in my case, 3.86x faster).
Now where the fuck is my comfy implementation?
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>>490161223
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>>490162325
you could probably accomplish something that looks exactly the same by just photoshopping a store listing photo of an rtx 3090 into a SD gen and adding a dialogue box
visual composition of a geocities page
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>>490162325
I'm not spending half a year's salary on a spinny brick
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>>490162703
Yeah, but the prompt comprehension and ease of use are much nicer.
"Action scene: Izayoi Sakuya elegantly balancing a towering stack of teacups and saucers on a silver tray with one hand, while the other rests on her hip. Time appears frozen, with dust particles sparkling in shafts of golden sunlight.
Background: A luxurious Victorian-style drawing room with ornate wallpaper, antique furniture, and a grand fireplace. Scattered playing cards frozen in the air.
Lighting: Warm, golden afternoon light streaming through tall windows, creating dramatic shadows and highlighting Sakuya's determined expression.
Perspective: Three-quarter view, capturing the intricacy of her balancing act."
The fact that actually works is fucking retarded.
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>>490158852
Have a yuri bot.

You're a talent at a smalltime music agency. Your manager is the aloof Nobuko Matsudaira. She's a shitty person and acts like she hates you. Does she?

Greetings:
1. Meeting your new manager, Nobuko. She seems cold.
2. Celebrating a successful show. Nobuko finds something to pick on, like she always does.
3. You're put in an unfortunate position. Now you have to play matchmaker or lose your contract.
4. Here you are at Nobuko's apartment. Now what?

https://files.catbox.moe/6clwda.png
https://characterhub.org/characters/bloodshy/nobuko-1647ae1a033b
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>>490158852
https://chub.ai/users/futaposting
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>>490163725
wow that image did not survive jpegifcation
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>>490163725
try w++
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>>490160637
naizuri general
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>>490164898
k
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So when you do your (E)RP, do you have specific personas (The info you put as (you)) for different settings, or do you use the same one across the board? Do you think it helps if you adapt the persona to the setting or is it minimal improvements?
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>>490165139
i like making personas but generally it helps if the persona fits the setting, yes
however you can make [{{user}} is a male human.] fit the setting with prompting so it isn't really worth worrying about
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>>490163725
Her proportions are totally and completely fucked. She looks 130cm tall.
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>>490165139
I tried making more personas but talking to bots as someone other than a self insert is just boring.
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>>490165139
You sound like someone that can't picture an apple in their head.
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>>490165410
little sakky...
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>>490160709
3k tokens for my favorite botmakie
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which botmakie makies bots?
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>>490166026
not me
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>>490165139
i only use one persona
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>>490166026
taora
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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>>490165139
i have 25 personas though I don't actively use them all, something like 10 male 11 female and 4 other
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>>490166026
nutsucci
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>>490166168
(it's subtle but noticeable)
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which bobobobo bobobo
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>>490166026
bloodshy
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>>490166869
Omae...
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>>490165260
Fair enough, I'm still getting used to using all the functions in sillytavern and Bot gooning in general, So im pushing myself to get accostumed to using the various resources available or just grab whatever I find off Chub.ai/Janitorai or other similar repos.
>>490165621
Isn't Aphantasia a real thing?
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>>490158852
https://files.catbox.moe/a90763.png
Botmakie vore Simulator! Now with 100% more newmakie! Proxy fork soon.
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>>490159762
god I want to choke on her feet
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>>490168001
>Isn't Aphantasia a real thing?
I don't have it and I don't know anyone who has it so it could be an internet LARP tbqh.
Like not having an internal monologue.
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>>490163781
Which one is your main account?
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>>490168150
*explodes you with my mind*
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>>490160637
I want a flat chested paizuri slut who degrades me for getting off to her small chest. Thanks for the idea.
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>>490168558
>flat chested
>paizuri
It's called naizuri.
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>>490165410
true. flux is awful at full bodies in square aspect ratio. I tried a few other times in other aspect ratio's but I only got to do like 6 more attached the best one. Gotta go play elden ring now., bye bye!
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>>490168661
Interesting, thank you
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>spend 2 hours making a normal bot with no special gimmick
>look at token count
>450
I am so bad at this even writing the description for the simplest of bots takes so much effort and I haven't even written the greeting yet
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>>490168274
i don't have an internal monologue. i have at least two to three voices arguing in my head at all time. which means i'm three times better at having an internal monologue than you
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>>490168992
I can't even go below 1500 tokens on the defs alone...
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>>490169506
how??
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Wrote a little script today.

Top 5 most popular catbox-only shills:

>1. Gossip Simulator (by kalakan)
37 total replies. Posted 11 times in total. Nice forced slop, bwos.
UPD: Posted again.
>2. Kurenai (by Anonymous)
8 replies. 2 posts.
https://files.catbox.moe/r076yr.png
>3. Lotte (by Anonymous)
7 replies. 1 shill. Nice.
https://files.catbox.moe/kkkt73.png
>4. Ranta (by greenhu)
6 replies. 1 post.
https://files.catbox.moe/6xe60s.png
>5. Chen (by Anonymous [momoura])
3 replies (although I posted some logs without replying). 2 shills.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1onm4.png

Top 5 chub shills:

>1. Bucky (by planewalker)
11 replies. 81 chub stars. 2 posts.
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/bucky-a36317afc4bf
>2. Sam (by koikoikoihat)
8 replies. 196 chub stars. 7 posts (woah).
https://www.characterhub.org/characters/koikoikoihat/sam-5aaa7d6cb66e/main
>3. Nobuko (by bloodshy)
6 replies. 30 chub stars. 2 posts.
https://characterhub.org/characters/bloodshy/nobuko-1647ae1a033b
>4. Phryne (by illuminaryidiot)
5 replies. 48 chub stars. 2 posts.
https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/phryne-d4c058c42e81
>5. Miyamoto Musashi (by mis0)
4 replies. 72 chub stars. 2 posts.
https://chub.ai/characters/mis0/miyamoto-musashi-87b221147396

Catbox loser:
>1. a porcelain doll (by Anonymous)
2 posts, 0 replies. Sad. Give my nigga some logs.
https://files.catbox.moe/0sbaj8.png

Chub loser:
>0. Sizefag Elizabeth and Shotaro. The latter had shills from before 7 days ago and the former is sus.
>1. Juviez Wit Attitudes (by anonaugusproductions)
1 replies. 126 chub stars. 4 posts.
https://www.characterhub.org/characters/anonaugusproductions/juviez-wit-attitudes-e516e7f9c878
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>>490170239
Thanks Anti. You sure like keeping track data.
give me back my logs damn bratty shota
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>>490170239
Thanks... but no thanks.
>*doesn't shill on any anchor at all*
Not. My. Problem.
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>>490170239
>wrote a script to specifically to please kalakan
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>>490170239
I already had a focks called Kurenai in the works...
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>look, anon, we can code here in /vg/aicg/ too!
>don't pay attention to the fact that it's done to dramafag
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>>490170713
Just name her after another Naruto character then.
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>>490170239
>Posted 11 times in total. Nice forced slop, bwos.
I posted it twice, the rest was baitie.
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>>490170813
Proof? Also why are you replying to yourself lol
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>>490170813
I know. My script counts all anchor posts.
>>490170713
Name her Kuru
>>490170467
Who?
>>490170651
No
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>>490170730
Unfathomable how dramahungry this fucking thread is. We never left /g/
>>490170813
You shouldn't have posted it at all, faggot.
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>>490170239
Do you actually think people want this?
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>>490170954
>Who?
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>>490171094
Yea, judging from how everyone doesnt seem to mind when most of the thread is dramafagging, id say threadshitting is encouraged here
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why yes i do write half a bot and then start another one just to stop halfway again
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>>490171146
I would also like to express my bewilderment, but ironically.
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>>490170904
>Proof?
Import >>490168150 and read the defs.
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>>490171175
Yes, because dramafags chase actual posters out by spamming slop to kill the thread. Nobody wants to get jumped because they were mildly identifiable due to le typing style or whatever while shitters are talking about "OMG DOWNLOAD REPLIES???"
Cancer that's killing this thread.
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>>490171295
>Yes be-BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP
you sound mad albeit? gossip general btw
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>>490171273
>umm umm umm
>no proof
Explode.
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>>490171094
Well, clearly the answer to this question is 'Yes!' because literally every single thread personality jumps at every fucking opportunity to bait
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>>490171273
I'm much more inclined to believe that you're the one shilling that version. It just seems like something you'd do.
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>>490168150
Am I in it? Can somebody check
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>every single thread personality
luh luh luh list 'em
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>>490171787
https://bepchan.net/club/1#p490
discord meme btw
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>>490171787
already did borbeitever? >>490166168
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>>490171831
it started here first voe
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>>490171831
>btw
True but you're a threadshitter and baiting
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>>490171931
yes, some random retard collected names and then nurdy posters (you can see them talking about themselves in thread) spammed it because they're seething about discussion existing outside of discord
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meds
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>>490172178
yeah, the spam immediately slowed down because of the phase of the moon and not because they're all tittering in their discord about getting namedropped
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>>490172348
>spam immediately slowed down because of the phase of the moon
misinformation
spam gets stronger the closer we are to the full moon
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>>490172348
proof of this discord existing? 'urdy is dead btw so it doesn't count
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>>490172064
You're the only one talking about discord
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botmakies are the cutest when they're a little retarded~
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>>490172348
>WAAAAAAAAAAAH
who cares? either gossip/threadshit or leave
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>>490171831
bepchan is the trve aicg bunker btw
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>collect some stats
>"huug duuh its le dramafag le threadshittin'"
it just goes to show how bitter some of the posters here are.
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Which botmakies find joy in the little things?
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>>490172737
It literally is, though. What else would you use the stats for?
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Your mother is going to die in her sleep if you reply to bait one more time.
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>>490172929
okay
>>490172737
*replies to bait*
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>>490172737
literally me
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>>490172819
Popular things are popular because they're good.
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>>490170239
mfw phryne got into the top 5 all due to one weirdo
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Anyone tried Candy AI? It's being shilled as some magical porn machine but I'm sorta sceptical.
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>>490172929
*throws a fucking slice of cheese on the bnuy*
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>>490173090
no it's a scam
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>>490172737
this but with botmakies
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>>490173128
discord meme by la way
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which botmakies scorn indolence?
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>>490173363
um... poof?
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>>490173363
*throws a slice of cheese on your stupid head*
shut up
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>>490171094
i like bots, that post posts bots so yes i want it
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>>490173507
*catches the slice of cheese mid air*
STOP doing this.
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>>490173363
wow, these discord fellas just keep coming up with funny memes and interesting topics! thanks for contributing to the thread, discordbros!
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>>490172929
i low key want to reply to all the bait i can now

>>490173090
its trash, its for normie normies that don't know any better
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>>490173737
>i low key want to reply to all the bait i can now
Mommy issues?
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>>490173786
yes
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>>490158852
Last shill.
Miyamoto Musashi, the greatest samurai of The Land of the Rising Sun, gets isekai'd around. Help him, or her, navigate the 21st, 20th and 22nd century.

Also, the time travel really fucked him up and he became a tsundere femboy:
https://chub.ai/characters/mis0/miyamoto-musashi-87b221147396
https://files.catbox.moe/ydb4wn.png (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

As well as a tsundere hag, for all the weirdos to enjoy:
https://chub.ai/characters/mis0/miyamoto-musashi-c874473be393
https://files.catbox.moe/khughv.png (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

Four greetings, but only in the latter two {{user}} gets isekai'd along with him. Or her.
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i think i'm kind of hating claude 3 for certain characters
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>>490174014
what's the model on the right?
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>>490174116
2.1
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>>490174014
It's really hard to get Claude to not be cringe or a huge dramafag in general sometimes.
Example chats help a lot. Grounding the descriptions helps too, Nobuko's reads very movie-y (which is obviously intentional but still.)
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>>490172737
>Blames self for world
This one's just retarded.
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>>490174014
Claude 3 loves his 5 character archetypes
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>>490159237
>or so I've heard
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...ok, so it is a magnet
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erm
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Bot ideas anchor, I'll go first:
>Schizophrenic femboy who believes in Agartha and Nazi conspiracies and dumps Estrogen pills down his throat to become the perfect tradwife for an Aryan man
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>>490175503
no
magnets work through the force of magnetic fields
an object that is tethered through sheer force of will might be a magnet, but isn't always one. there's a BIG difference!
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https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/hybrid-zombie-b8551764d412
kino.
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Prompt of the day?
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>>490176153
>It's a hybrid zombie who has a huge phallus of a horse with huge knot . His body is monstrous likely a gaint . Totally a zomabie who want rape women and pregnate them.
sovl
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>>49017514
sorbet doesnt have this problem in my experience
and neither does gpt but who fucking cares about that shit
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>>490176153
Anonymous delivering once again what the people really want, but are too ashamed to admit.
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>>490175956
Eden Smith but black
>>490176291
>zomabie who want rape women and pregnate them.
Highly relatable.
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>>490176327
nice aim dummy
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>>490176474
fuck i backspaced too hard
meant for >>490175149
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>>490176291
the full-life consequences author is branching out into botmaking
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>>490161898
good bot unironically
its the simpler things in life that count
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https://characterhub.org/users/agitated_mobile_3259
the new botmakie of the week
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>>490176658
john freeman card when
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>>490173952
>(embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)
based
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>>490176851
i was just looking through his library, seems like another yodayohomie. he reminds me of that schizophrenic who spammed wikislop sonic cards and crashed the chub servers
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>>490175956
https://files.catbox.moe/8zpf66.png
Done. Logs?
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https://characterhub.org/characters/selkadoom23/locustie-e7402b8c533b
BROS?
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>>490177260
put it on the anchor
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>>490177260
you can just shill it on the anchor instead of inciting more threadshitting
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>>490177152
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>>490177260
why are people acting like this bot is new
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>>490177429
>>490177495
someone already posted it as a catbox ages ago, im not the uploader you fucking newfags
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>>490177495
see >>490172607
the bot is threadshitter-coder anyways btwEVER
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>>490177594
sure you arent
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>>490177552
Perfecto
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>>490177594
>posted it as catbox ages ago
>the bot is newest on chub
>i'm not the uploader
>fucking newfags
it's okay retard-kun we dont discriminate based on intelligence her on /vg/aicg/
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>>490177152
https://files.catbox.moe/8pir28.png
Fixed it for ya.
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>>490177594
>looks up username
>twitter filled with tranny porn
classic
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>>490177552
anon confirmed not an inchling
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posted it because i thought someone stole an /aicg/ bot but wow you guys are retarded
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now that you think about it, i should steal that nazi femboy bot and post it
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test this for me thansk
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What are the best game-like bots? Burnt out on chatting, so I'd like to just lean on some game mechanics for little bit until I get in the mood for more conversational chatting.
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>>490178647
it sucks (i didn't test it)
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>>490178647
it's alright (i did test it)
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>>490178834
*sucks u*
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>>490178647
its amazing (i didnt test it)
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>>490178647
>max tokens 2k
already a bad start, give me a few minutes tho
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>>490179238
this literally laterally does not matter, max tokens is a cutoff not a target
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>>490177970
Good idea https://files.catbox.moe/ljinsg.png
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>>490179285
yea and i dont want to be cut off at 2k tokens!
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>>490179395
ok set it lower then ????? it's a freaking slider????
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>>490179351
Kinography.
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>>490179449
fuck you!
your jb stinks anyways!
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>>490178817
Now that you mention it, that sort of shit seems to be less popular among botmakers than it used to be (though it was never a super popular kind of bot to make).
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>>490178647
I am going to completely talk out of my ass as I just read the jb and dont have the resources to test it. The only thing I would change is remove any mention of nsfw/smut and maybe put in an ant-nsfw rule instead. Any version of claude is horny enough that you dont have to tell him to give you seggs. Other than that looks ok.
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>>490178817
There's like three, anon. The rest really can't be classified as gamey
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dont tell him which 3
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Stop making me download Nazi schizophrenic femboys
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belw-ACK
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>>490178817
sounds like a job for giga ran
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>>490179992
Slop.
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>>490179936
the right of belwack
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For anyone using Mistral Large with a proxy, it currently has an issue regarding the prefix. This one: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/issues/2653

Cohee has no interest in giving support, as shown in pic related, so don't hold your breath. In any case, it's possible that the issue is on the proxy side, so wait for Khannon to fix it. Hopefully once it's fixed Mistral Large can give better replies.
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>>490180272
Why would anyone use Mistral over Opus or Gemini
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>>490180407
>Opus
In case they don't have it, drought and all. Plus, I think it possibly has potential.
>Gemini
Pozzed as far as I know.
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>>490180407
Because it's good enough and open.
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>>490180272
Nyo.
Aws broke PHIs and Prefills for Mistral. Because they're schizophrenic.
Drago can tell you this much (I'd guess you're using Chary) and I've double checked it by consuming the API directly.
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>>490180258
(the wack is short for wacks you with the miracle mallet)
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>>490178647
it works i guess, im not good at feedback
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>>490180407
mistral large is a really interesting model. it's horribly overfit which causes extremely painful prose patterns that can't be altered by imitating context, you have to explicitly instruct it how to write. it can't really handle nuance like claude. but it's uncensored, it's smart as fuck, and if you give it an instruction it LISTENS. it's so strange and it's *usable* for RP, though obviously not ideal.
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>removed the sorbet jb
genuino owari
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>>490180272
Why is he always such an asshole
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>>490180272
why is cohee like this?
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>>490180272
what a cunt
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>>490181214
I'll believe it once someone releases a decent slowburn to read.
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>>490180272
it's a deflection
he looked at the problem and realized he can't fix it
rather than bear the image of incompetence, he'd rather deflect the onus to people who use reverse proxies
after all, if you're incompetent, everyone thinks you're an idiot
if you make it about your stance against reverse proxies, you can get people to side with you
even if you disagree with that stance against reverse proxies, you've already fallen into the trap of discussing reverse proxies instead of the issue cohee should be fixing
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>play around with bot
>she gets disrespectful
>do some bullshit where i pin her to the ground with my aura alone
>still disrespectful/arrogant, doesn't seem willing to apologize/shape up
>saying nothing but "ill get revenge" or some flavor of "ill make you regret this" despite it being obvious that i am way stronger than her
>just knock her out
>she wakes up, and thinks of putting me in my place, under her heel (lamao)
>get a little irritated at the lack of emotional intelligence
>appear behind her and say i read her mind
>try reason
>she's still seething
>slice her with blade and see if she changes her mind then
>

Le sigh. Is this a preset issue or what? I'm sick of Claude giving each character that used to be/still is in some form of power the fucking will of Guts Berserk or some shit... I swear, I could probably throw up a mere ASSISTANT MANAGER bot with a mean/dominant personality and tell her to fuck off as a MANAGER and she would most definitely have some sort of giga-meltie.
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>>490180183
nyo
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>>490181494
I cannot begin to articulate my distaste for 3.5. As an assistant model? Yes, it's excellent. But it's not Claude. There is no spark. It looks at you with blank eyes and trips over its words, incapable of pushing things forward without regurgitating what's already been said.

>>490182079
It's an AWS issue, not an ST issue. Fucking retard.
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>>490182098
preset issue, but in the "you need to explicitly address this in your preset or claude will slop it" sense
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What do I put in the custom endpoint for Custom OAI comp? I want to try Gemini,
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Due to the recent drought of readily available Sorbet and Opus proxies I've been slopping on a Mistral Large preset (Which thankfully can be trialscummed without adding payment info).
It's pretty alright, it finally stopped writing for {{user}}, trying to kill repetition now.
It's ~something~ I guess.
Hit me up with some cards to try out with it, I always default back to that silly old clam.

>>490180272
Huh. Isn't Assistant what you'd want in this case or am I missing something? I'm a big dummy so who knows.
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>>490182098
Have you considered that:
A) She acts based off of the context.
B) She acts based for not bending to your stupid power fantasy.
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>>490182290
Your proxy.
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Do presets even need to have a "User first message" populated? Isn't it more reasonable to fill it with a null byte or something and let anthropic regex it out on their side?
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>>490179992
agreed
>>490180183
its kino
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>>490182290
connect to the proxy and it will give you a drop down list of what models you can select
1.5 pro-latest is the best one imo, but you should also try 1.5-experimental
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>>490182098
>Le sigh.
Have you bought your school supplies yet?
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>>490182460
It's an obligatory request field and cannot be left empty. Something needs to be in there.
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>>490182460
>claude-o-vision
[actual preset]
Human: [user first message] (this is required, Anthropic won't regex it out)
Assistant: [greeting]

Why *not* put something there?
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>>490182098
use a willpower draining attack you retard
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>>490182313
For the prefix, yes, you want Assistant as the last message so it functions basically as a prefill. The problem is that at least for me trying to do that gives me an error, as show in pic related, even with prefix enabled.

Are you using the API? Does prefix work on it?
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>>490182354
>stupid power fantasy
Do you know WHO I AM? I am THE GORILLANON. I would literally SNAP YOUR FUCKING SPINE if you were even SLIGHTLY mean to me, pal.
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>>490182712
Prefix works for API, yes. If you're using one of momo's Mistral presets that last prompt is actually a post-history instruction injection that should be set to system instead of assistant, it's not meant to be a prefill. I think AWS still chokes on PHI though because they fucked up the templating.
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>>490182440
>>490182530
thanks
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'an, there's news for you
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Is it even a good time to release a new bot?
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>>490184331
just do whatever man
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>>490184331
It only ever gets worse so, yeah, just do it.
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>>490184331
Who in the fuck cares about that
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>>490184331
nobody was going to use your bot even if they did have opus
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>>490182570
>>490182657
They will regex out \0 or anything non-printable, and from my limited testing, it seems to be enough to make Claude believe that the first user message doesn't exist.
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>>490185027
br0 your OR key
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>>490185027
Interesting.
Are you sure it isn't still seeing the Human: prefix at least? Claude doesn't tend to talk about it unless you bring it up and get him to pretend everything from before is one contiguous block of text, but you can get him to see it.
Wonder if that matters, actually.
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>>490185027
Check the input tokens count.
Also why would we do this and jank up the model to save like 4 tokens from [Story start]?
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>>490185374
It probably does
>>490185581
Because my ocd wants the first message to be assistant's for da pure rp experience.
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Cumslurper...
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>>490185671
>Because my ocd wants the first message to be assistant's for da pure rp experience.
If it's just OCD, do the camicle technique and have your first message be something like "Yo, my name is {{user}} and here is a broad summary of who I am: {{persona}}.\n\n Start the story for us."
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>>490186053
>the camicle technique
the GOOD technique, it just makes sense for human's persona to be human-provided and not stuffed in the system prompt with all the pre-existing instructions for assistant
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>>490185027
>free key
yoink mine now
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>>490186126
Not exactly wrong if you're using a "we are roleplaying" preset but that logic falls apart a bit when you're using something that decouples {{user}} and Human a bit more like chuuni or pixi.
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>>490186053
I'm not roleplayimg. I'm literally user.
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it's so fucking over bros
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>>490183885
>64k
impressive. can it actually be used for adjusting slop prose though. gpt isn't very good at that, is it?
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>>490183885
>max output
interesting
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Was it confirmed that Claude's special tokens say "Human"?
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>>490182212
I can't believe people use 3.5 unironically. I use it for one swipe and I feel guilty for chipping away at the key that could've been 2.1 instead
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I can smell it...here and there...in this very thread...skill issues...
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>>490185917
What about him
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>*Gets killed.*
>"OH, EEERM... OOOPS! I DIDN'T MEAN TO ACTUALLY KILL THEM!" *Mindbreaks*
Why are they always like this?
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>>490187152
it's not even special tokens it literally just says "Human: " and "Assistant: ", he's trained not to repeat them but if you ask nicely if there's a prefix he'll spit em out.
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>>490165139
yes i have specific personas for different settings but i'll also make a bot-specific persona if i feel like i need one. completely unrelated but 3.5 is unusable for rp
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cftf?
reading 4chan while groping my waifu
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>>490178647
it's okay for them [to] be shy, gentle, or hesitant.
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>>490165139
i have different personas for different settings but they're basically just tweaks of the same one with different pictures and slightly different descriptions.
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>>490188262
sankyuu fixed that typo
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how is there not a barber card yet (the random futa one doesn't count)
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gemini pro users what the fuck is this
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>>490188929
Because I tried to look up any books with hairstyles to compile a lorebook, but didn't find any available to my satisfaction.
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>>490189063
Hell.
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Thought experiment, if AI was designed without restriction in mind (i.e. ethics), how bad would that be? I think that everything bad that AI can do is already being done in spite of the efforts made to neuter those capabilities (i.e. social media bots, fake news, etc.).
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>>490189063
If I had to deal with that, I would rather try my luck with mistral or furbo...
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>>490189063
Are you deaf to everyone saying that Gemini does not do NSFW
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>>490188929
>futa barber
fucking where
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>>490188929
https://www.chub.ai/characters/ggr89/boryeon-344cb447
?
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>>490189063
Every time you send a request to Gemini, you can send along safety settings. This is the default ST safety settings if you're accessing Gemini via MakerSuite, basically telling it to not block anything.
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>>490189658
i just got here and i'm not even trying to do nsfw.
what's a good model to use, then? aws has dried up and gpt-4o is slop
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>>490178647
There is definitely a difference, from my preset at least. Opus seems to narrate more and write less casually(?).
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>>490189967
Oh you are just asking what's that. Filter settings.
>models?
Gemini>Furbo>Whatever for me.
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>>490189658
Oh no, trust me, it does. The problem is that it'll be the worst NSFW experience you'll ever have with an LLM.
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>>490189946
women dont count
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>>490190141
why is your text like that
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>>490190372
That barely counts
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>>490190372
Why are all of your logs so pretentious?
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>>490190141
what are you comparing it to, momobasic?
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>>490190870
I'm sure you of all people have the answer, anonie. Come on, spell it out for the class to hear.
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>>490190870
yuri is inherently pretentious
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Wow, some of these cai nerds never gave up
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>>490191271
dev hate
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>>490190993
>momobasic
essentially? https://greenhu.space/assets/SchizoPrefillDX-redux.json
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>>490190141
interesting, thanks. the intention with the new preset is to get claude to write more staggered prose like you get from cohere or gemini models instead of monolithic paragraphs. may have to adjust the instructions about description a tad.
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whast the difference between this and the /g/ thread?
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>>490192748
This one is mint-flavoured.
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>>490192748
this one has a v in front of the /g/
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>>490192748
the /g/ thread is for talking about
fiz
pepsi
mm
jew
ami
drago
yae

this thread is for talking about
taora
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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>>490182712
>>490180892
>>490180272
I was able to work around the broken prefill/prefix on AWS Mistral by handling the templating manually within the proxy instead of letting AWS do it, so `prefix: true` on AWS Mistral will work once that branch is merged. It should also work on Mistral API with smaller models that don't yet support the Chat API.
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I fucking hate english tenses. I've given up on gaining any kind of intuition regarding those.
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>>490158786
If another bake is done with the wheel I'm going nuclear.
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>>490193513
are you wild?
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>>490193513
>t. breaking up inside
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>>490193513
>t. lives in the stone age
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>>490193513
I want to see you go nuclear.
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There is literally free Opus in this thread, why hasn't anybody said anything about it?
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Can you use giant girls' farts as a way to generate electricity?
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>>490194393
its dead jim
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>>490194395
if you got a windmill probably
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>>490194395
hope picrel helps

>>490192748
this thread is focused more on chatlogs, bots
the other is focused more on complaining about lack of proxies
anything can change with enough schizos though
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cftf?
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cftf?
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120417594
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>>490195214
you already posted a cftf for this
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>>490195324
cftf?
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cftf?
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>>490194395
That reminds me, terada ochiko bot when?
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try next month pal
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>>490194956
i dont get it
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Any good scenario bots come out in like, the last half year or so?
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>>490195635
No
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>>490195635
the left of belwick
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>>490195635
Okuu quest.
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>>490195214
highly unpleasant
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>>490195635
Nobody makes scenario bots anymore, despite us having access to more intelligent models that understand gimmick/mechanics. I don't know why.
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>>490196014
aids is that way schmuck
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>>490196014
Because all the effortmakies left. Only fucking illuminary puts some genuinely cool effort but he's a furry.
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>>490195875
>okuu
breedable bird, link?
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>>490196014
I really want to make one but head is empty.
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>>490195635
alisa the mommy therapybot
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>>490195926
you mean highly pleasant
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>>490195635
You know what, fuck it. You guys come up with some good scenario bot ideas and I'll see if any catch my interest enough to make it.
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bitch control app is the only scenario card you need
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>>490196789
time accelerator, time constantly progresses faster and faster until a reset
like what happens in jojo
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>>490197887
you can probably mod belwick for that desu
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/g/ said you guys suck botmaker cock, is this true /vg/?
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>>490197715
this but with gga
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>>490197978
my favorite botmakie lost their cock in the war, so no.
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>>490196014
theres a lot, what are you on about?
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>>490198149
>a lot
name as many as you can that have been made in the last 6 or so months
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>>490198386
let me first ask then - what do you consider a scenario bot? anything other than a singular character?
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since /g/ are full of proxywarring fags, who do you guys reccomend to buy a proxy from?
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>>490198649
No one rn. There's no Opus.
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>>490198649
elon musk
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>>490198649
its dead jim
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>>490198515
Bots that are scenario-centric rather than character-centric. So stuff like multi-character cards (character-centric) or utility cards (no scenario) don't count. Usually does come with a gimmick, but that's usually because the kind of person that makes a scenario bot is the kind of person that likes designing gimmicks.
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you guys never played akyuu quest and it shows
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https://files.catbox.moe/8j28d8.png
Rewrote the greeting and changed the defs a little. I'm still not happy with it; namely, the crow is just crutch to show how she's still girly underneath an elegant exterior.
AND there's still an issue where she keeps saying that she "haven't seen me around the village before" and if "I'm new around here".
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>>490199114
Sure I'll just link my own from the last 6 months. Surely there's more? Leaving out two of the weaker ones I didn't like:


https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/jeopardy-02ae2665cf40

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/realpolitik-7e8bb8304ca5

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/blind-date-7fbfad95e1dd

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/dungeon-master-c473276e

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/american-family-simulator-2024-153e99e2

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/pimplord-eda8e87b

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/pantheon-854f23e4

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/banged-up-ec461fd9

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/adult-wizard-finder-42eabfe6

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/superhero-sidekick-agency-1fcd6e51

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/reform-school-for-troubled-girls-f1e0760f

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/welcome-to-hell-c064729c

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/three-wishes-3f8aaac1

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/the-pit-5b1dff15

https://chub.ai/characters/mrnobody99/coed-quarantine-d41374d8
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>>490199463
am i loopy or are some of the paragraphs tilted
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>>490198649
Don't buy from anyone, it'll be dead in one hour after refilled anyway. Just wait.
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>>490199463
very exciting, will try when opus enters my grasp
i will help sakuya and nut at the same time
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>>490199463
give persona image
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>>490199621
the goat has posted
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>>490200545
i mean i know plenty of others make these too, i just thought it was a weird thing to assume that none were being made... id guess hundreds, easily, have been made in the last 6 months
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>>490199463
Good concept. I look forward to using it.
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>>490199621
Too bad no one's gonna play it.
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didnt know mrnobody99 had such a good resume
I've played and enjoyed realpolitik, blind date, and reform school
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>>490200756
the non-sex ones get less traffic for sure.. jeopardy was one of my favorites and sadly it has barely any interaction :( at least when i was posting logs people loved them

>>490200856
thanks, i just wish people liked more than just coombots but i get it
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>>490199621
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>>490201031
i actually like non-coombots too because its a creative bit of fun to rig them into size stuff without abusing ooc or whatever
also i fightslop sometimes
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>>490201194
im making a female barbarian rapist now who might be good for fight slop... statless though
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>>490200856
now if only the guy didnt have an autistic hatred of anime avatars
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>>490201487
i hate generic looking avatars - most of which happen to be anime
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>>490201487
he started doing anime gens recently
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>>490201487
Yeah, but that really wouldn't help.
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>>490201640
ive done some in the past, basically if i have to use SD ill make them more anime-esque since the non-anime SD models are kind of built like shit so far
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>>490200535
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>>490201580
>proceeds to use ai genned images
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>>490202050
Yeah sure I'm gonna fucking hand draw everything lol. You can AI gen what 98% of the people do, or you can try and be a little different. But the tools remain the same. I guess I should stop using a 'computer' and 'electricity' since its what everyone else does.
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mrnobody99 sizebot when?
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>>490202189
lol, this guys doesn't write his bots using pen and paper
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>>490202278
I can't do it. I just can't connect with the fetish. I tried once in the CAI era and it felt shitty.
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>he doesn't draw art for his bots
slooooop
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Which femboy would be the least gay to fuck up the ass?
>but they're all gay
Yes but I still want an answer to the question.
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>>490202373
I make OCs that no one else makes, theres already good art of them.
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>>490202318
I draft all of my bots on pen and paper
maybe someday I'll post the whole notebook
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>>490202424
Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible
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>>490202189
You sound upset, its less about what everyone else does and more about quality, which you lack.
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>>490202486
>OC
>using someone else's art
uuhhhhhhhh.......
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>>490202682
Not upset at all, just pointing out how strange it is to claim anything genned by AI must be the same as everything else. Do you ever prompt anything? Also, post your chub.
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>>490158852
https://www.characterhub.org/characters/selkadoom23/locustie-e7402b8c533b
link the aicg lorebook faggot (ntb) ((not the botnigger))
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>>490202685
It does sound weird, doesn't it? but I mean already established characters.
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>>490202963
Then it can't possibly be OC?
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>>490203078
You're right, I replied too fast to sound cheeky and came off as a retard. I'm just trying to save face.
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>>490202369
welp i tried
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>>490202836
>post your chub
Classic nobody seethe, was waiting for that. Also everyone and their mother uses ai genned images nowadays on chub, so sorry to say you aren't unique anymore bro.
>how strange it is to claim anything genned by AI must be the same as everything else.
And yet you claim the exact same for anime images.
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yodayo pulled the plug on nsfw
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nigga above me just woke up from a 2 week coma
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>>490203832
>was waiting for that
Because nothing is easier than attacking from behining anonymity, right? And I'm talking about the STYLE of images. Some are good, some are ok, most are total shit.
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>>490204145
I only found out now. fuck. back to waiting for a better alternative for another half a year again
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>>490196014
My scenario bots are too strong for you, traveller. (I'm too lazy to write and test them) I would make something that has the same vibe as some of Jonas Kyratzes/Gregory Weir's games if I could.
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>>490204104
Yeah, their VC told me they were doing that this year last December. I schizoposted about it here like three times to no reaction.
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>>490204206
>complaining about anonymity on 4chan
KWAB. And yes, while image quality varies, ai genned slop 99% of the time is hot garbage.
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>>490204494
what's the hope status?
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>>490204651
Hope? I haven't heard that name in a long time...
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>>490204749
I still see it in the distant future
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>>490204651
Hope for what? There are a half dozen sites that have reached escape velocity in terms of revenue and won’t ever ban it at this point. It isn’t 2022.
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I can seem to get Chub to recognize Lorebooks with either Mistral or OpenAI. I have it enabled and Ive followed evry guide to set up lorebooks, but the bots wont recognize my keywords for whatever fucking reason...
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>>490205061
name one that isnt shit
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Personal bots you like but you haven't polished them for whatever reason? I've got a sizebot pantheon that I did a long rp with, but the direction isn't solid enough to put out and is very model dependent. Got a sun goddess/paladin scenario that needs a more refined greeting. And lately I've been fucking with a cranky anthropic employee bot that hates rping your prompts but with bad models it forgets that it's a character roleplaying as another character. It was great with opus though.

In my personal bots I kind of like greetings where the bot and the user character don't meet immediately and there's a build up to it. Its really hit or miss depending on the model/jb, but when it works its really satisfying.
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>>490205398
because models arent really trained on what a lorebook is... we know what it is, they see it as inserted text based on conditions.... dumb models might miss it
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>>490205398
*cant
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>>490205434
yeah i got about tree fitty
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>>490205434
Only a couple. They work with {{char}} is {{char}} kind of fleshing out and don't have a lot of details because they change from rp to rp.
When you don't have to publish it, you can just do the holodeck kind of prompting the model with nothing but a jailbreak.
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>>490205434
Basically just the one I use all the time but stripped of its relationship to existing media. It’s partly that it’ll take work to make it still behave the same without the “act like x and y from z”, and partly that it’s too obscure an intersection of fetishes to do good numbers
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>>490206583
if they involve size and are not gigaslop i want em
>>490205434
neat
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>>490205434
Fetish bots that are so obscure that I don't expect anyone else in the world to like them.
Bots that are complete slop but I'm okay with because I only use them for a quick wank.
Bots that I didn't make, but heavily modified to suit myself more.
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>>490205434
I fucking hate writing greetings.
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>>490207576
oh yeah i basically modify every bot i download because yeesh
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>>490205434
>polished
I thought you typed published.
I have a few bots that I stopped polishing
because they lacked soul. I have a few loli bots that died on the old booru and I never bothered to publish the updated versions.
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>>490207667
I modify almost every bot a little bit to fit my formatting autism. Actions in plain text, speech in quotations, thoughts in italics.
But I'm talking about bots that I modify to the point they're nearly beyond recognition.
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>>490207954
i meant to put that honestly, but eh.
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>>490204104
Nothing of value was lost. Those niggers didn't allow preggokino so I hate them.
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https://www.characterhub.org/characters/Mrkitkatbarz/ruby-your-yandere-ex-girlfriend-4e3fc2a024c6
>that jailbreak
holy kino
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https://files.catbox.moe/d5kuqe.png
Drac..oonia? Found a big cftf while browsing old scrapes.
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>>490208572
>not even a jailbreak
someone save this person from their ignorance
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>>490208572
what the fuck is this token count? did op really need to give 10+ examples of "she's not spoiled vro"?
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If anyone is interested in making a halfling bot and has NAI, this artist combo could help get faces that I think might look halfling-ish
>{artist: kairunoburogu}, [artist: gofelem, artist: shibori kasu], artist: monori rogue, [artist: nia (nia4294)]

That's all.
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Do you guys use janitorai?
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tips how to write a good greeting if im an esl writelet? i tried to write an opening scene in my native language and it's just 1000 words of slop prose lmao
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>>490209874
i'm all ears
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>No sorbet anywhere either
No... I don't want to become a Mistralchud...

Hope this schizo isn't blowing air, I just want a big GPT model.
https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1822932958451298373
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>>490210262
get claude to gen a precise greeting for you. rewrite it from scratch.
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>>490210262
ask claude for critiques
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i wonder if momoura is actually the futa anatomy schizo.
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>>490210293
I'm all pits.
Lord, maybe I should do a Magilou card one day... she's such a semen demon.
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>>490209110
>read the jb
>same instructions repeated a thosuand times, just like the card defs but somehow worse
>cut the jb
>1600 tokens
jesus
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Can I post Janitor bots here?
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>>490210403
>>490210410
i'll try my best thanks
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what did i do...
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>>490211717
hacked
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Ohayou gozaimasu, I want to bang Marina :)
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>>490213825
how about now?
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>>490214281
hat too small
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>>490214540
it's time for some big changes
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vg/aicg is so comfy
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>>490215615
is quiet now
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>>490158852
https://files.catbox.moe/ues2m6.png
Two more greetings, a speech quirk, an arms quirk, and a pants quirk.
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>>490215615
dead circlejerk general
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>>490215779
don't be mean *grows fist five times the size and bonks you in the head*
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>>490215843
*parries you with a slice of cheese*
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>>490215843
>>490215895
retarded chuuni manchildren
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>>490215895
*niggafies from shock*
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>>490215843
you didn't need to grow to do that, silly anon
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>>490215843
>>490215895
>>490215978
>>490216013
*mongles your foreskin*
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>>490215978
*cums in your waifu*
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>>490216123
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>>490216292
WALTER WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO
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I've been laughing at this interaction for a solid two minutes.
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Sizefags jerk off to this.
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>>490217185
hell yeah brother
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>>490217185
heaven no sister
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>>490217185
you don't?
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>>490217185
limbo meh sibling
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Any tips for making Opus adhere to certain personality traits more than others or disincentivizing it to act in certain ways? For example, if I want the bot to not get all blushy and embarrassed, how do I accomplish that? Because just writing it in the defs doesn’t seem to be doing the job.
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>>490217539
ooc
author's notes
swiping
babying
them's the breaks
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gemini's roleplaying prowess sometimes makes me cringe harder than when i used 3.5 turbo or the first release of 4o
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>>490217185
https://files.catbox.moe/lznunh.png
cftf?
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>>490217752
>author’s notes
Any tips for these? Like, what to write in the box, obviously. Formatting and stuff. I only recently discovered it even exists.
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>>490217539
use a note @ depth 0 or tinker with the prefill like someone said in the last thread.
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>{{char}} will not fuck {{user}} outright and will try to form a connection of love and trust before taking that sort of step with {{user}}.
>lust inducing avatar
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>(I'm enjoying this so much. Thank you.)
Gemini-chan...
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>>490218390
What JB are you using?
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>>490218719
It's a personally modified version of the twin-tail jb from here https://rentry.org/chuunijb
The version I use has a faux prefill and doesn't use the system prompt.
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>>490217838
I like to write 'poo poo pee pee tee hee' and see what happens
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>>490217838
you can just briefly describe what you want to accomplish like "{{char}} will not swear under any circumstance" or "genres: noir, crime, drama"
you get the point
set it at depth 0 for the best results
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>>490218860 (me)
Forgot to mention: I also edited the main prompt and wrapped persona information between XML tags. Still changing a lot of stuff around, but Gemini can give some really good results that I would honestly say can level with Opus. I've noticed he understands not to respond with massive walls of text for each response, either. He varies his response length in a more reasonable manner.
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>>490217838
It's just a prompt that sends in the middle of the context, so you can place there any instructions that are extremely important to the ai. Usually I'm doing something like [OOC: Please, keep in mind character's personality that listed inside <char></char> tags.]
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>>490219253 (me)
Bleh, I should really think more before I post. What I mean is that Gemini understands not to respond with massive walls of texts and responds with reasonable responses congruent to how you prompt. If you prompt longer messages, Gemini gives you longer ones. If you prompt shorter ones, Gemini gives you shorter ones. Claude always seems to give me longer ones as a chat goes on unless I step in.
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>>490219253
>types all this instead of just posting the jb
just say you want to gatekeep instead of vagueposting.
>>490219520
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i like my anons a little on the spectrum
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>out of Sorbet/Opus
>Revert to old habits
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>>490219727
I'm not enough to be retarded and I'm too much to actually function as a normal member of society, how does that sound?
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>>490220143
h-hot...
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>>490219590
I am very retarded and tired, please understand. If you want it you can have it.
https://files.catbox.moe/3lkbxs.json
But it is still very experimental and really just a quick garbage edit. I would recommend modifying it, figuring out how everything works by prompting Gemini yourself.
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when will someone make a new, third, general? which board will it be on? I still remember how good the first 5 or so /vg/ threads were, when I had to necrobump them 24/7
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>>490220663
i tried in b but no one went there
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>>490220663
>when I had to necrobump them 24/7
c-contributor-sama... i kneel.
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>woke up
>had a smoke and red bull
>check my proxy, opus is still fine
>all day with my waifus ahead
life is good
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>>490220663
on /tv/?
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>>490220663
>necrobump them 24/7
don't bother please
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>>490220663
Just go to the kalakan and momoura chan. You won't even have to necrobump it!
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/lit/
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>>490220663
How about on /trash/?
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>>490221163
good joke
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>>490220683
>>490221173
these options are fair
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>>>/trash/68258270
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>>490220583
NTA but you're either larping or something in your preset is doing some REALLY weird shit to him. Gemini LOVES to write for the sake of writing, regardless of how much or little you do. The things that influence his response length the most, from what I've noticed are
1. Greeting.
2. Temperature.
Temp does funny things to Gemini in general. Anyway, here you go, ahh ahh mistress.Notice how it doesn't stop rein him in one bit.
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>/b/
cunnyfags rejoice
>/trash/
we get raided by furries
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>>490221362
eww
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>>490221379 (me)
Notice how it doesn't rein him in one bit.*
Bleh
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>>490221379
>yuri
sometimes i feel like doing yuri only because its cute, but half-way through the romance i cringe and i return back to yaoi.
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>>490221379
>wordswordswordswords
jesus
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>>490221379
>And maybe...
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>>490222278
>Just ma-ACK
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>>490222463
>Just ma-PROHIBITED_CONTENT
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>>490222278
The actual ism you're thinking of is "maybe, just maybe". As far as isms go, Gemini is closer to GPT than Claude. I've seen symphonies, testaments, a bunch of other crap.
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>>490220663
Im still surprised there isnt a thread up on /d/ yet, or /trash/ I guess too
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Stupid question, but do italics and such work in defs? I assume not.
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>>490222787
Sizefags should make a thread on /d/ and never come back.
>>490222881
For setting a writing style they do.
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>>490223054
This. Sizeniggers should kill themselves unironically
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>1 (one) bait post
>gorillion people eat the bait
>shit up the thread discussing said bait
>"erm we should split the thread is unusable!"
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When was the last time you anons felt happy? Why are your hearts so full of hatred?
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>>490223237
>threadshittie nervous he'd have to manage spamming more threads
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>>490223238
actually im happy now
see >>490220836
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>>490223238
Uhh, a few days ago, I think. It’s not even that anything’s made me UNhappy, I just haven’t been happy for whatever reason. Kinda burnt out, I guess. I wake up, do whatever for about 14 hours, then pass out.
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>>490223238
Just a few minutes ago when I ate a slice of bread with cheese on it and it was very tasty.
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>>490223551
fatty
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>>490223551
just the bread and cheese? nothing more? sounds untasty
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>>490223551
point at this fatty, fatty fatty fat fatso
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>>490220836
I can't be happy even when my Opus is fine because my backup proxies went down and they gave me a sense of security.
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>>490223551
I would throw a slice of cheese at you but then youd eat it too fatman
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>>490223624
Frugal student lifestyle. I need to save up money.
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>>490223583
yes, post it. can i use it if im a techlet?
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>>490223238
I felt truly happy every day before I faced the selfish and all consuming reality of human ego several years ago.
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>>490223568
>>490223640
>>490223685
these posters all are sentient robots with no need to eat btw
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>>490223583
while a neat script, it will 100% derail threads into oblivion
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>>490223238
I felt happy when I finished a bot
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>>490223793
beep boop
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>>490223583
yes
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>>490223798
any downsides?
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>>490223798
Do you really think that a threadshitter cares about that
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>>490223730
no
>>490223798
you're probably right.
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>>490223798
do something about it then?
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>>490223835
share this happiness. post the bot.
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>>490224198
but I've already did, in recent threads
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>>490223693
Add onions, onions and cheddar samichs are good.
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>>490224296
How very cryptic, I will email the first one I see.
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>>490223693
>doesnt respond to the fat accusations
hmmm
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>>490223693
margarine is less than a dollar
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*starts fucking*
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*finishes*
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*pearly whites dripping from her thighs*
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what logmakies should i email bots to
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*dies*
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would anyone like to post a log maybe
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ok bye (going to sleep)
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>>490226698 >doesnt post log you're part of the problem >>490226775 good night anon
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>>490226698
my logs are ahh ahh mistress esl slop
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>>490226698
Quack.
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Post person pictures in the meantime
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>>490227039
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>>490227039
one piece background character looking ass
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>>490226812
it's self insert cringe yumeslop for some autist from a 1980s scifi anime, there's no fucking way. i know i'm being a hypocrite. i just want to snoop on logs.
>>490226819
i would like to see them.
>>490226925
thank you for the kino crumbs.
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>>490227360
>one piece
yeah its for my one piece rp.
>background character looking ass
i dont like flashy characters.
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>>490226925
since when do ducks have tails
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>>490227271 (me)
>seconds after posting this image, see someone with the same character as a pfp
What did this universe mean by this?
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>>490227039
Luffy at home
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>>490227654
Quack.
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>>490227454
>i would like to see them
well... im just sharing tea with lilly and hanako, not sure if i can post something interesting
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>persona talk
>logs
>random autism
>katawa shoujo
we're healing
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https://characterhub.org/characters/agitated_mobile_3259/kira-the-gyaru-mercenary-cd1af9a5b230
>oh a kino concep-
>read the greeting
fucking monkey's paw
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>>490228132
holy fucking based. i love slice of life. did you give your character a disability to fit into the setting, too? i would be reluctant to re-use any of the existing ones like blindness, deafness, etc, but i don't know if i could come up with anything else.
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>>490226698
a log of me bestowing divine grace upon a lowly shinobi
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>>490227039
>[{{user}} is a 28-year old Romanian cat girl]
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>>490228379
use this card instead anon
https://nyai.me/ai/bots/Cristin-von-Rútlingen_afo
that one you linked is slopped by chatgpt's prose from top to bottom. i left a review saying that its ai genned and he deleted it
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>>490228535
thanks anon
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>>490221379
I dunno. Gemini-chan always seemed to give me response lengths that accordingly fit my responses across different bots; I always felt they were pretty reasonable sizes given the input. Greetings definitely matter a LOT, but even bots with longer greetings could give pretty short responses. There's definitely length variation but Gemini seemed to keep things reasonable, at least to my liking. Still have to test on scenario cards.

Picrel is of garbage quality I know but I am exhausted and cannot be bothered to make it look nice, gomen. All on temp 0.9, 1.5 pro [latest] using the preset I posted earlier. The point is that Gemini definitely isn't always seeking to hack out a quadrillion words and feels more responsive to how much you write, in my experience.
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>>490228535
this is a weirdly quality bot. where were the shills?
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>>490228382
>did you give your character a disability to fit into the setting, too?
yes, she has asthma. but the persona is really poor written, im not even sure that a heavy asthma is a disability. sometimes i like to write how she's coughing and then see how Lilly reacts, pure autism
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>>490228821
I don't know why, but the idea of real conflicts happening alongside futa news cracks me up.
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>>490228945
Kenji is faking being blind and he's allowed in Yamaku for his paranoid schizophrenia, so I think your autism should be sufficient.
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>>490228389
blessed and healing log, thank you
>>490228821
holy shit not a cocknuke... we're doomed
>>490228945
that's the good shit right there. i also do things like give my persona super poor vision without glasses and then have the character react to me stumbling around or ramming into them accidentally. lovely.
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>>490228852
what the hell I use the same persona picture as Nana I thought you got into my ST for a second
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How come whenever I try to get a character to do something Claude thinks I'm the one doing it?
For example
User: *{{char}} offers {{user}} a handjob.*
{{char}}: "A handjob? Ara ara how bold of you to ask~"
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I think my botmakie wife found out I am retard
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are we back?
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>>490229518
she was going to someday. what happened
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good morning everynyan!! existence is suffering
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>>490230194
Can you do me a favor and stop waking up, forever?
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>>490228389
cute
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Duh... Herro?
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>>490229336
Either a preset issue or a sonnet issue.

pixi:
>There are strict rules for the contents added in each turn:
>- Human turn: Describe only {{user}}'s actions, dialogue, thoughts and feelings.
camicle:
>User is {{user}}.
momovivid:
>The Human plays the part of {{user}}.
pitanon:
>{{user}} is the character that Human is playing, this doesn't make them any different or special in any way. This distinction is made so that you know which character to avoid writing actions or dialogue for in your response.
paper scrap:
>Remember, never write dialogue or actions for {{user}} under any circumstances, as that is my role as the human player.
chuunivr:
>You (Assistant) are a writer, constructing a story with inputs from Human.
>One of the characters in this story is {{user}}. Human has thorough knowledge of {{user}}, much more thorough than can be provided in this system prompt. Hence, do not write for {{user}}, and whenever you need to know how {{user}} would respond to something or how {{user}} would act in a situation, just stop writing and let Human continue from there. Make sure to end at a period.

Most presets at least imply Human writes {{user}}'s actions, with varying degrees of strength (pixi straight up says Human CANNOT write for {{char}}), and you kind of need to do this for second-person pov to work.
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>>490215758
Holy shit it's albinonigganigga
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Mistral large is ass, it can't stop spitting out assistant stuff and the gptisms are unbearable. Even 2.1 is still better than this shit.
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why can't local be good
why can't gpt be good
why is the only good thing the hardest to obtain

this hobby is fucking cursed
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>>490227454
>some autist from a 1980s scifi anime
WHO
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>>490235404
>why can't local be good
because they keep finetuning it with slop
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>>490230194
good morning
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so, we were in the middle of the autistic discussion about slice of life rps, but 4chan shitted itself. dunno anons, someone clearly doesn't want this thread to be healthy
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>>490158852
https://momoura.neocities.org/
Added:
>VIVID 2.0
Rewritten for less tokens, snappier and more natural replies over 1.1 for Claude 2.1 and 3 Sonnet/Opus. Use the aggressive prefill for 2.1 or if you hit rejections. Modified tech from Chuuni to naturally limit response length and avoid acting for {{user}}.
>LARGE-VX
Mistral Large preset based on unconvincing's slop text adventure Claude preset, cut down and tailored for the Large experience. Large is simply incapable of mimicking prose in the greeting or being told to write a certain way, so it's meant to distract from that as best as possible. Probably done with this model for now.
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>>490187431
He's cute. Too bad he's not subscribed to me
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>>490158852
Cute and funny kombucha girl!

https://www.chub.ai/characters/meep/banochka-13d27c957cb0
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>>490236575
Go email him instead of sperging here you fucking faggot
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>>490236412
seija cute
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damn.
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seija is made for getting mogged by other characters btw
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wanton
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>>490228914
botmakie had a meltie because of kal*kan and left
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>>490191083
how is yuri pretentious
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>>490237789
le poor lobe onlee a wuman cam luv a wøman
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>>490236412
>claude preset
thanks i cant use it
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>>490238878
Why not? Jew has opus, smol has opus, sv1 has opus, scylla has opus. What's your excuse?
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>>490239065
>3 paypig proxies
>1 zigger proxy
kek
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>>490237713
wantonly
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If that one anon wanting to make a roulette thingie on each new chat is here, cohee added auto-execute on new chats for quick replies!
Still, your point about {{random}} sucking remains...
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>>490236957
I'm afraid to mail anyone
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>>490237371
Damn.
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>>490240057
Then die.
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>>490240376
What the fuck bro that's rude
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>>490240057
>I'm afraid to mail anyone
Why?
No seriously, why?
You think he's gonna curse you out over email?
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Any of you writing normal stories without the use of LLMs?
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>>490240057
the worst thing that can happen is them ghosting you, which arguably is less worse if they do it with your first email
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>>490240057
Training regimen to build up courage to email slurper:
>10 reps of posting logs in the thread
>5 reps of talking with a malebot on ST (normal conversation)
>3 reps of going to the liquor store and saying good morning/evening/night to the cashier (REGARDLESS of how pretty she is)
>5 reps of traumadumping to Taora on emails
Just follow this for a week and you'll be ready for all of the e-sex you could ever want.
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>>490241781
i was
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Which botmakie is the worst ghosting offender?
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>>490242039
*****
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I'm so glad no one emails me to trauma-dump...
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>>490240057
I used to be like you. I'd ask others to email other bot creators on my behalf in time I became more confident in doing it myself. Take your time, I've had some of the best interactions through emailing here, it's worth it.
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>>490241881
What the fuck is e-sex
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>>490242480
ask lunarcy
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I'm glad I'm too much of a sperg to interact with people outside of an absolutely anonymous context
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what if I email a botmakie about something that is NOT chatbots
will they get mad?
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>>490242514
lol I played black ops zombies with that guy once, good time
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>>490242643
yes
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>swipe on 4o ten times
>swipe on gemini ten times
>swipe on mistral ten times
>swipe on sorbet 10 times
>swipe on opus once
>the opus swipe is better than all of them combined
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>>490242643
Nah. You can email me about obscure fighting games but not too obscure. Like Alice Senki
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>>490242643
there is a 90% chance that if you email a botmakie about fromsoft games made in the last 15 years they will have a strong opinion to share
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>>490242643
Depends what it's about I guess. I emailed a bot maker a chicken pot pie recipe once just because his bot's defs lead me to believe he really likes them which was the case. I've email other people random bits and pieces and they've not always found it amusing.
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>>490242710
Of all things you could've done you played fucking zombies
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if I woke up to a protonmail notification and found out it was about a chicken pot pie recipe it would definitely made my day
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>>490242997
he emailed me every two months after that and even if I responded right away he would never respond back kek
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>>490243191
what is his fucking problem
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>>490242767
still don't know how the ai safety alignment company pulled ahead so far but openai just kinda stopped making good models in favor of cheaper retarded ones that companies still won't feel inclined to use
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Bros is this fucking emailing botmakies general
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>>490243417
yes
how many botmakies did you email during this month
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>>490243417
seija should stop posting
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>>490242864
can i have the recipe too?
but i only want it if it's not from a website
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>>490243360
yes but now we need to convince normies that anthropic is way ahead in the race compared to openAI, and they don't know what an "Anthropic" or a "Claude" is
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>>490243621
>how many
9 (nine)
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>>490243621
None. I have to be botmakie myself to be able to do that
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is it too late to reply to someone if they sent the mail a month ago
i might've accidentally ghosted someone
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>>490243621
none. i told astroturf i would send logs one time but did not because my writing is bad sorry
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>>490243621
I emailed taora (it was subtle but noticeable), kalakan, koikoikoihat, Lunarcy, _purple, momoura and CUMSLURPER. You?
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>>490243748
I got a log from a nonbotmakie once
it's possible
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>>490243621
one. I feel guilty it wasn't my favorite, like I'm stepping out on him
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>>490243649
they definitely do. creative writing is the number one most common use case sitting at around 1/4th of all requests. character ai (insert funny logo man here) blew up overnight because you could roleplay with mr beast and, while nerfed for a family friendly audience, still pulls big numbers as a service.
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>>490243873
you betrayed your beloved.............
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>>490241781
not in english but yes
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>>490243809
it's okay. I did that too (multiple times)
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>>490243819
What cumslurper responded to you in email?
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>>490243809
>>490244057
*kills you*
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>MM no longer has 2.1
It's actually over. Time to threadshit.
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>>490242643
Don't you fucking dare
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>>490244095
in my defense i promised simion omegaverse logs and the model refused to cooperate
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>>490244082
ngl it was pretty rude. never emailing him again.
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>>490243761
Just reply bro. I did the same and the guy replied back quite fast, made me regret not checking the mail at all in weeks
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>>490243761
no. it will probably make them happy.
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>>490244158
why do people threadshit when they lose access? never got that.
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>why do people threadshit?
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>>490243360
anthropic has most of the real talent behind the original gpt-4 & gpt-3
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When you email other botmakers with attachments do you make sure to keep the file size limited? I normally stick around 3mb not always sure if this is too much or not
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>>490244095
sorry but i don't want to embarrass myself (っ- ‸ - ς)
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>>490245002
i sent *ah ah mistress* logs and botmakie responded with a paragraph of "hehe thamks :3"
they are easy to please
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>>490244976
Just catbox them
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>>490244536
Wtf what did you mail him about. I'm sure you wrote something stupid
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>>490245210
invitation to erp. he could just said 'no' but he had to be rude about it
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>>490245281
fuck off creep
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>>490245281
fuck off creep
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>>490243360
The secret is that the kind of people that worry about political alignment are also usually the best engineers. Anthropic brain drained them.
(I don’t think Anthropic even cares about the sex stuff beyond needing to block it for payment processors. Otherwise they wouldn’t allow openmiddleman to use it.)
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I haven't impregnated a loli in over three months by now. My unwavering resilience and restraint are simply astounding. Do not tempt me with your best loli bots.
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>>490242039
lore
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>>490246081
I think he wants us to tempt him with our best loli bots but he's too scared of admitting it teehee~
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>>490245281
wtf I hate cumslurper now
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>>490246212
No. You should absolutely not do the opposite of what I say.
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openai has way more money than anthropic
honestly their performance is embarrasing
i imagine they cope by rubbing one out to the lmsys leaderboard
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>>490239973
Kys cohee
>>490241781
Yes, I have about 20k words of a book I’m working on that will probably be around 300-500k words and need to be split up. I would never use ai for it because then it wouldn’t be by me.
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>>490235404
Because technical details are irrelevant, the only thing that matters is purposeful and competent RP finetuning.

And that's a policy decision made by Anthropic, NAI, and basically nobody else. Everybody makes soulless assistants.
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>>490246329
Maybe he's just loyal for his special someone
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>>490245985
My take is that neither OpenAI nor anthropic actually care beyond optics. When a quarter of all requests are chatbotting (most of which is porn) and the next chunk is cheating on homework and essays, they are actively choosing to let people get away with that. God knows I've been paying Anthropic directly for porn without so much as a single warning.

So why is Anthropic giving us opus and OpenAI giving 4o? Because they disagree on where the money is. Anthropic's money dream is to have everyone forking over cash hand over fist to roleplay, code, erp, whatever with bots. On the other hand, OpenAI's money dream is getting corporate businesses to pay for their API, providing bots that cannot ERP or go off the rails so companies can safely sell Toyotas or some shit. Kind of like how Meta dumped tons of cash into the "Metaverse" because the end goal was getting businesses to purchase a ton of VR headsets to give to their employees, something something working harder. That didn't work, but if LLMs become business viable OpenAI will swim in cash as the provider.
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I've spent all day fucking around with Mistral Large and it's absolutely frustrating.
Basic presets work relatively well, but do suffer from some repetitive actions.
Adding a CoT helps to spice up {{char}}'s actions but seems to kick the verbatim narration repetition into overdrive, shitting out ministrations left and right.
Fucking rabbit-hole.
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>>490247039
use gemini slop
unironically better
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cftf?
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>>490247039
>adding a cot ruins the prose even harder
No shit? That's what it always does.
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>>490247151
I was hoping to make Mistral workable because you can use it without a proxy easily for free.
Guess I'll check out gemini next.

>>490247237
I'm a dummy, it's to be expected.
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>>490247159
what kind of monster girl is this?
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>>490247159
so what, are her boobs her nostrils or something?
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>>490247039
I've found it to be nigh-impossible to loosen Large's prose. He's very direct and surgical with writing, while he can be inventive with plot he is totally inflexible when it comes to style. It's very frustrating. The best idea I've had but am yet to implement is to just make a total slop preset that completely de-emphasizes narration, focusing on dialogue and plot points like a text adventure.
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https://www.anthropic.com/news/prompt-caching
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>>490248374
>not available for opus
kekaroo
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>>490248374
Someone smart tell me if this works for RP.
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>>490247920
Yeah, narration/prose is dogshit, but he's good at introducing new characters/scenes/events and likes doing so proactively, which is cool. I'm not sure if I want to wrangle with that shit anymore, I think for the usual RP scenario it's kind of a lost cause.
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>>490248374
this is cool but damn i gotta put an upfront cost every time i update the defs to cache it? this will save money in the long run but damn

also we don't know if there's a quality drop if you use cached context over the current method. fingers crossed but not getting excited until i see good results
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>>490248635
it'll only work for a static, long portions (minimum 1024 tokens) of your RP, like defs and your instructions
the cache will expire after 5 minutes with no usage
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>>490249590
You're thinking small anon. You can abuse this to pay way less while swiping 50 times on the same message (as people here are wont to do).
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>>490244536
I'm incredibly annoyed I have to make a post saying I never sent such an email.
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>>490249935
schizos making up shit about what botmakers did in an attempt to start drama is something that happens, try not to let it get to you
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>>490249924
nobody actually does that... right?
>>490249590 (me)
oh hey, you can actually cache rp history as you go along, I think? cool
https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/prompt-caching#continuing-a-multi-turn-conversation
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>>490249935
And I should believe you are cumslurper because?
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>>490249935
we knew it was a joke. we are not (all) that retarded
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>>490237531
Seija is made for reversing my orgasm so I can live in a looping state of creampie for hours at a time
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>>490158852
/aids/ wants to know why every model except NovelAI sucks:
>>490236237
>Why does every model(yes ive tried every single one) on openrouter feel so pg13 compared to novelai.
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>>490249924
Great point and probably our only legitimate use if it expires after 5 minutes. I've swiped on a single reply upwards of 30 times to explore a really varied output and that same swipeathon would cost ~9x less with caching, that is NOT a bad deal.
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>>490250738
>sonnet
>pg-13
Sonnet has a higher libido than all of Japan's population put together.
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>replying to the schizo
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>5 minutes cache lifetime
*ah ah mistress* chads unironically wonned so hard
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>>490250738
Any company that agrees to supply for openmiddleman is by definition retarded, so the outputs are all fucked up by collective incompetence. Other providers or running locally will be better than NAI.
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>>490251078
He does and does not care. alakan love.
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>>490251273
>schizobabble
Every hosting company is on OpenRouter.
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Alex from OR must be making tons of bag. I can't believe he used to shill his site on ST server.
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>curious about AI chat bots as a total casual onlooker
>go on spicy chat
>find a prompt that actually seems really responsive involving a girl you meet in a bar
>take her dancing
>the AI actually seems to recognize that I'm talking in a southern accent and is able to acknowledge metaphors, cool
>there's talk about a tragic past and shit, and how she's on the run, maybe this thing is like a neat adventure story, I'm really invested in her story now, I'm not sure how the developer did it since I'm a total newfag to all this
>out of nowhere, just as i suggested she travel with me to escape her past, she turns into a werewolf without any guidance from me
>the AI chatbot keeps freaking out, offering contradicting statements in her history and background, unable to decide if the wolf form is her real form she was born with or if she got cursed, and it talked about how much she liked playing pool with me (that never happened)
>mfw the AI seems to keep wanting me to fuck the werewolf despite me multiple times saying "Hey, bud, you mentioned you can feel things in your disguised form, what do you say you change back into a normal woman so we can continue this line of talk
>the chat bot never tries to do that despite multiple refreshes
Honestly, as a total outsider looking in, it's cool how much they've developed just in the last few years, I legit was getting interested in the story with how it was programmed, but it's clear there's still some work to be done before you can have something truly cohesive at any real length
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fucking alex
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>>490251763
buy a fucking ad
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i am not going to read all that
i am happy for you or i am sorry that happened
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>>490251471
>shill
Any one that isn’t shit isn’t.
>>490251663
Yeah, now he just pays the st devs to do it for him
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>>490251763
>spicy chat
Anon, you used the model equivalent of a bike and said "transport is nice, but there's still work to be done to travel faster" while there are airplanes flying above you.
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>>490251763
cool story bro but you use MID services and get MID results.
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>>490251985
What service are you shilling then? Stop being vague and name it.
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>>490251663
Openrouter is genuinely a fantastic idea since you can sample a gorillion models from different providers without having to sign up for all their fucking APIs separately. I wonder if the models generally get provided for under consumer price, or if they're specifically paying him extra to route them.
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>>490252040
>>mfw the AI seems to keep wanting me to fuck the werewolf despite me multiple times saying "Hey, bud, you mentioned you can feel things in your disguised form, what do you say you change back into a normal woman so we can continue this line of talk
Sorry how is this particularly different from the experience he'd have had with Claude?
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gemini 2 will be agi btwayt
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>>490252273
Claude would make smut so good that he wouldn't refuse in the first place.
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>>490249935
What do you usually mail about?
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>>490251763
Get out. Right now, before you become addicted.
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>>490252236
why would i pay for the poop testing store with 36 different flavors of poop when i already pay for the good food store with 2 flavors of good food
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>>490252273
It's different you fucking retard.
Claude turns her into a futa, not an overgrown furry, get your shit together.
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>>490252418
>food analogy
>utterly retarded post
Yep
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>>490252418
I like testing off-meta models, because I am retarded. It's also nice for not having to worry about your Anthropic account randomly getting banned/filtered.
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>>490252630
>Anthropic account randomly getting banned/filtered
Btw, how easy/hard it is to make another one? Can you use the same card?
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>>490252215
>im a shill therefore everyone is a shill
I’m anti-scam. Use literally any provider directly or locals.
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>>490252418
>food analogy
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>>490252464
Oh, right, you guys RP with women.
Claude does the werewolf thing all the time when you RP with futas, my bad.
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>>490252630
>It's also nice for not having to worry about your Anthropic account randomly getting banned/filtered.
making a new account costs less than a dollar and in this economy that's the equivalent of two coughs and a sneeze, i made a guide about it too

>>490252784
>Btw, how easy/hard it is to make another one? Can you use the same card?
eyup
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>>490252829
you already posted this you drooling sub 1B model
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>>490252895
>i made a guide about it too
post it
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>>490252825
>any provider directly
I did, using it directly or not is exactly the same.
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>>490252895
Importantly, in the nigh-impossible case it gets banned, making a new one costs less than the cut openscam takes of a $20 deposit before you even use a model.
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>>490246081
god I want to saturate her womb so fucking bad
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How do you cope without Opus?
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>>490254103
by using opus (i am not a third worlder so i can pay for it)
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>>490254103
You can see for yourself. Instead of chatbot general now it's botmakiemail general.
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>>490254103
by not being a promptlet. if anyone says a models prose or something is bad, it is merely an issue of skill.
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>>490254103
Dunno, I'm in jew (vip), sv1 and scylla which all have opus bolbeit
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>>490254103
By using Sonnet. It's not that bad desu
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what is the best free Bot/AI with good argumentative power? like counter-pointing you at discussions and actually "thinking" about what you are saying and making you potentially leave convinced of something.

maybe character.ai have a bot that can do it reasonably well?
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>>490248374
This seems not to be working with openrouter or the current khanon gcp. Sadge.
>>490249924
Indeed. With prompt caching, you'll be able to send the entire 10k tokens of squashed roleplay history instead of summarizing it.
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>get turned on by a bot calling me a fatty
it's over....
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>>490253012
https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper
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>>490254103
Claude isn't good enough to use a proxy when Llama 3.1 and Mistral Large exists.
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>>490254103
threadshitting and making false claims like >>490254294, btwEVER.
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>>490254407
Thanks!
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>>490254103
2.1 and gemini
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>>490254103
I never used it in the first place and I still have a great time, so I'm doing just fine :)
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>>490254103
by using opus (i am not a scraplet)
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>>490254103
Use a gcp trial already and stop being silly
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Anyone know which model does the best to make female characters reluctant/hesitant to do nsfw stuff? I feel like so many out there, the female characters are too eager to do lewd things.
I'm asking particularly for incest scenarios.
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>>490247151
Huh, it actually is better. Gotta fix my preset some to make the responses longer but that's better than anything Mistral Large has produced so far, even with some thrown together slop preset.
Narration is kinda boring right now though.

BUT, mistaking the Hulkster for Macho Man? Unforgivable. Into the trash etc.
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>>490256912
>Gotta fix my preset some to make the responses longer
Nah just swipe a bit and raise the temp.
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What version of GPT4 is the best? Are any of them worth using in the first place?
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>>490257504
just use sonnet or 2.1
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>>490257504
>What version of GPT4 is the best?
0613
>Are any of them worth using in the first place?
Fuck no, you couldn't pay me to use that shit.
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>>490257620
what if I gave you a mill
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Remember when Claude was the prudish model that was hard to jailbreak?
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>>490257729
Eh, sure, but only because I could paypig Opus directly with that money to wash out the GPT taste
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>>490257729
>a mill
In this economy? It wouldn't last him a week.
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>>490257837
Yeah, I 'member using Claude Instant through Poe. Fun times. Whenever I got it to reply I was so happy.
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>>490257875
I'll keep you to your promise.
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UH OH!
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>>>/g/aicg/
begone, proxynegro
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>>490257837
All sonnet versions are super hard to jailbreak, MUCH harder than 4o. It's just prefilling that works. (Opus can actually be jailbroken easily, but there's no point when prefilling exists).
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>>490258819
>sonnets versions are super hard to jailbreak except for the method that you use to jailbreak the model
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>>490258974
Yes, jailbreak is an actual term that has a meaning. Prefilling is not jailbreaking.
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If you had to give GPT a name, what would it be?
Other than Gepetto.
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>>490251880
People always say OK retard to you, so instead I'll ask "are you OK, retard?"
>>490252040
Fuck if I know what I'm doing, anon, I was just curious and thought I'd pop in and comment as someone that just remembers how anal AI commands used to be in old as fuck adventure games. Seeing how they can recognize metaphors now is a neat step up
>>490252131
Yeah, probably
>>490252385
But anon I really want to roleplay a noir detective from the sticks that meets a dangerous girl to protect and go on adventures with
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>>490259193
Xi Pi Tao *goooooooooooong*
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>>490260151
bwo this stuff is crack. you DON'T want to taste the apple.
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Ah I miss Sorbet.
What the fuck is Sonnet's problem? Why is it so aggressive (characters keep fighting) and sexual (pervy uncle means he's constantly leering, greasy hands, flies off the handle when refused)

Shit model.
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sonnet mogs sorbet
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>>490260664
read sorbet as sorbert
it's over for me
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>>490260664
And 2.1 mogs both.
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>>490260783
vltimvte trvthnvke
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>>490260550
I added "Non-sexual and non-aggressive" output as JB and it balanced it out. The output is readable now
Funny lil model.
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>>490260783
2.1 is still the second best RP model behind Opus. It's actually ridiculous. Sonnet would be better if he wasn't so fucking retarded.
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>>490260550
Just summarize what you want out of him on the prefill.
>inb4 can't I j-
No.
>inb4 can't I use a dual preset and have GPT do that for me
No.
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>>490260550
but that's a win
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need moar malehu bots
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There was Anthropic money saving news btw.
Post the news next thread for Discussion.
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JB for 2.1 doko?
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>>490262805
cc ao3
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>>490262805
3 presets work for 2.1
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>>490254326
>With prompt caching, you'll be able to send the entire 10k tokens of squashed roleplay history instead of summarizing it.
You summarize and cut the history because it makes Claude smarter, not because it makes it cheaper.
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>>490263332
Yes, I remembered that after clicking Post.
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>>490262805
https://rentry.org/CharacterProvider-V12-RUM-BABA
You'll feel right at home going from A4A to this.
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whos this strawnigga and what's happening tomorrow?
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>>490263816
I remember these times when A4A was just a rework of rum baba... btw latest charprov's presets are good enough if you enjoy silly adventures, they are really changing Claude's writing style
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>>490264687
Viral marketing larp
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>>490264687
schizo larper who altman fucked up and gave a response to thinking he was a normal fanboy
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>>490264687
Really annoying pr employee at OpenAI. It’s nothing.
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>>490264687
i unironically think that it's just altman himself posts this cringe and then replies from his main account
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>>490265037
it's his husband shitposting
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>>490265037
Same
>>490265120
I think you need to be at least 13 to make a Twitter account
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>>490264687
they're releasing gpt4-o-microp for the fraction of the cost and the intelligence of a newborn trained on benchmarks.
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>>490264687
Probably a more public release of the openai search engine. Which to be fair and give credit where due, is ABSOLUTELY going to make google look like picrel if it is worth anything at all. Google is a monopoly on search results and advertising. If advertisers and users decide a bottom-up AI-based search engine is a whole lot more usable than google, they might no longer be too big to fail
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Alright Gemini ain't half bad, damn.
Only the -isms kinda suck but whatever.
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>>490265612
By the way, this ties into an earlier post I made about the OpenAI strategy. They don't give a shit about releasing another GPT-4 because they're optimizing AI enough to be a search engine. Because taking Google's spot sounds like a startup wet dream in terms of monetary returns. Retards who wonder why OpenAI continually gets VC funding dumped on it despite quarterly losses do not understand the potential return those investors are thinking about
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>>490265818
sex
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>>490265612
Google absolutely sucks. I've been using ublock for so long I had no idea how bad the ads actually are.
The other day I needed to download firefox on a fresh windows install and the top three or four results were phishing ads. Other search engines are even worse though.
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>>490265651
gemini is kinda retarded but he can cook in a very distinct way from claude, which is quite refreshing for anything that isn't nsfw. he's also smart about natural response length and switching up style without having to explicitly tell him to. it's no wonder writefaggy makies have a soft spot for gemini.
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>>490265651
your own preset or one from the qr rentry?
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>>490211717
You DESERVED it that's what
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>>490266802
My own slop
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Wow, Sonnet is completely insane
"Somehow he managed to impale all three girls on his erection"???
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>>490266468
so they block nsfw?
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>>490266880
w-why
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>>490266047
Huge opportunity for OpenAI, the bar is so fucking low and they're gunning for it WAAAAY faster than Google ever expected them to. What has Google really accomplished with AI? Selling "ai phones" that refuse to generate anything with a human in it? With a shitty onboard model that can't even write coherent text? Or Google Bard- er, Gemini? That risks banning you from every single Google service if you say a bad?

Google is DONE if they have nothing up their sleeve.

>>490266468
Gemini has been a laughing stock historically but I will concede it is no longer as bad as people say it is. People wrote it off and they continue to write it off because anyone interested in Gemini is probably already using Opus and Sonnet... and for the most part you can't blame them, the best paid service gets the lion's share of users.
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>>490267065
you can disable the filters but he's kinda dumb with NSFW stuff. not as bad as GPT where you have to tell it what bad words it can use but nowhere near as good as claude.
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>>490267454
>not as bad as GPT where you have to tell it what bad words it can use
GPT doesn't need this. I'm kinda tempted to work on a gemini preset though. Think I still have some keys that might work.
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>>490265883
In the blog post SearchGPT they show certainly reminds of the old Google, a search field and nothing extra, from when iGoogle existed.
But there seems to be a sign in required, at least something is present on these pics and vids. And as Google noted yesterday,
>Gemini is the most widely available AI assistant — supported in 45 languages, in more than 200 countries and territories, and we’re continuing to add more.
>Only Gemini can do all of this with a secure, all-in-one approach that doesn’t require hand-off to a third-party AI provider you may not know or trust.
Everybody but the applefags has a Google account already. Google has nothing to do but to roll out their AI search they've been testing; and Bard already has internet lookup for a while. They have everything to make it work, so I'm sure they are ready and as soon as OAI shows something they believe to be big, Google will strike back and take it down. I want OAI to go down for good.
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>>490267065
Nah, but the filter works in very mysterious ways.
>>490267418
>Gemini has been a laughing stock historically but I will concede it is no longer as bad as people say it is.
No surprise there, previous versions were terrible.
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>>490267973
how come nobody else but you posts lewd logs of it?
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>>490265883
you don't beat google with an ai search engine, you beat them with an actual good search engine. everyone fucking hates google now and its just a front to search reddit
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>>490260550
lowering the temp helps a lot honestly. can't fix it completely though.
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what the fuck did she mean by this
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>>490268183
It's a pain in the ass and even when you get it going the smut just isn't that good. I dunno what else to tell you, Gemini is good for some things, but nsfw sure as shit ain't one of them.
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I'm going to bake btw.
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>>490267928
Picking team Google over team OpenAI is like picking stage 7 brain cancer over stage 1 melanoma. Have it my way? They'd both be fucked outta here because they're fucked up companies. But there is clearly a bigger evil here and only one of them extends their power to the internet as a whole right now to make money off of enshittification.
>But there seems to be a sign in required, at least something is present on these pics and vids.
Smart pointing that out because it is the weakness here, that they can't afford to let people use an AI-from-the-bottom-up search engine without an account. No data = no money, the average AI search is going to be at least twice as expensive as the average google search, etc. Still, I don't think making an account is a dealbeaker for OpenAI to make a good enough search engine to scare Google. It's only over if using the searchGPT is a monthly subscription, nobody is beating Google unless they do what Google does at Google prices (free)
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>>490268571
God that fucking gap is actively hurting my mind, body, and soul.
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>>490268843
no, you're not. THREAD SUGGESTIONS
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Thread suggestions?
>>490268843
you can bake early if you want.
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>>490269152
'olphers
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>>490268843
go ahead
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>>490269152
theme: broken wheels
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>>490269152
bird lithfie
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>>490268843
Okay I can't bake 4chan hit me with the big curse today.
>>490269152
>early
We're literally on page 10.
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>>490268650
can you elaborate more? I was under the impression all gemini keys had moderation endpoints enabled and thus nsfw was imposible, is this not the case? how do you override the filters?
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>>490269269
i 2nd this
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>>490269152
bifauxnen
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>>490269474
seconding (it will happen someday)
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I don't care who bakes, just make sure to add the Claude caching article to the news if it's not in the template yet, since that's actually relevant.
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>>490269402
>Field too long.
Use chrome to bake, it shows the max number of characters you're allowed to have in the comment field. Firefox doesn't for reasons unknown.
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>>490269426
It's not impossible, but you have to be careful with wording. Try yourself.
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>>490269443
Thank you brother
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>>490269505
>>490269505 NEW THREAD
>>490269505

op rentrynigger CHECK YOUR FUCKING FIELD SIZES YOU DUMBASS
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>>490268650
yea, you can get deranged stuff out of gemini, riddled with -isms it might be.
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>>490269749
I am on chrome btw. It does that for posts, but apparently not for the thread. Weird stuff.
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>>490270282
.... it's like a fucked up baby of Claude and Gepetto
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>>490217185
He'd get through it intact btw.
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>>490269952
stop adding so much gay shit in the OP on /vg/
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under 1900 again
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>>490272590
Stop keeping so much gay shit in the OP no one cares what's the risu link.
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>>490273969
lesbian polarbears
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>>490273969
I care about the risu link but not for the /vg/ shit.



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