/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#135 - Miko Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.▶This is not a tech support thread. If you need help with accessing the API or setting up one of the frontends, please visit the appropriate thread on >>>/g/.additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_informationlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://chub-archive.evulid.cchttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_listhttps://rentry.org/charcardrentrylist>Guideshttps://docs.sillytavern.app - https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Jailbreakshttps://rentry.org/jb-listing>Frontendshttps://sillytavern.app [SillyTavern]https://agnai.chat [Agnai]https://risuai.xyz [RisuAI]>Modelsgpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.comgemini: https://ai.google.dev/docslocal: >>>/g/lmghttps://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP#vgservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metatry these -> https://rentry.org/weirdbutfunjailbreaksandprompts - https://rentry.org/jinxbreakslogs: https://chatlogs.neocities.orgaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listPrevious: >>490158786
total 2hunigger death
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Gemini is so jewish. It essentially steals all your input tokens and responds with a single "FUCK_YOU" token.
oppa.... is sloppa......
'a'an wonnedbut who losted?
claude randomly introduces more lore into my coomsloppapretty funny
>>490269049For me OAI is the bigger evil because they were never good. Google was, maybe it all ended 20 years ago, or less, when they removed "do no evil" clause. But it has some leftover credibility, OAI never had any. All they do is claim to be moral and ethical when they in fact aren't, at all, not in comparison but in principle.There is Sydney, there is Perplexity AI – neither requires an account to get the augmented results. The age of llm enabled websearch has already begun last year, with Google participation too. I don't see what OAI could bring to the table that would make it "the best". That's why all OAI can do, what they always do, is create hype. The latest installment being that strawberry shit.
>doing a canon scenario as usual but now Sorbetless>Rem and Ram's uncle being slightly pervy, explicitly write that "output should be non-sexual and non-aggressive">Sonnet cooks Ram being thrown away in a wooden shelf, splintering it, and then the Oni uncle raping Rem to continue the bloodlineWhat is wrong with Sonnet bros?
>tests gemini>speaks for me on the first message
>>490269426No, a moderation endpoint would be something like what filtered Azure keys use. Gemini's own filters, as far as I can tell, aren't that much different from Claude's filters back in the 2.0/2.1 era. But since Gemini doesn't support prefilling, you can't get around it like that, so you'll end up with some refusals here and there. To answer your question, nsfw is absolutely possible (as you can see from my logs, which I've posted multiple of).>how do you override the filters?Read this https://rentry.org/gemini-qrIf you're still getting refusals, just start beating it over the head with instructions, treat it like GPT in that regard.
someone was asking why taora is the only one who's posted nsfw gemini logs, this is why (it utterly slops the fuck out of nsfw)
>>490270885do like 10 message with opus and continue with gemini
>>490270942>muh wonton soupgod not you too
>>490270657pretty much.You have to really poison Gemini with the context for it to get this deranged though.
>>490270885Either a prompt or a greeting issue. You can literally just tell Gemini not to act for you and he won't. As shrimple as that.
>>490270895Gemini funnily enough has a moderation endpoint, but it only triggers on loli, shota, bombs, terrorism. >>490270942Looks like they did the classic "filter out all nsfw from training data", so they just have some zoomer humor from social media.We know Claude even scans hentai sites in their training.
>>490270961thats what i did, i went into a chat that was in progress like 60 messages deep... its speaking for me literally every time despite jb/card telling it not to, and it never being in history
>>490269505I'm going nuclear.
>>490271183>greeting issueNice bait.
>>490271221>but it only triggers on loliPretty sure Momoura posted Gemini cunny logs.
https://rentry.org/prompt-of-the-dayDo we need this or nah?
>>490271772Nah
>>490271562so far it seems barely better than pyg shit, had to swipe 9 times to get a coherent reply that didnt forget what was happening, cut off, or change formatting to a huge degree
>>490271772Maybe if it was someone who's not a dumbass making it.
>>490271772we don't need it but it's not to have
>>490271772Nah. I like when sometimes someone asks in the threads for the prompt and anonies are throwing out a few ideas
>>490270942
gemini can genuinely be funnier than claude sometimes (sometimes)
>>490272092proofreading is hard. gomen.>>490271886>>490272108>>490272852naruhodo
https://youtu.be/HAkZoebl2d8
Just saying but whenever I interact with a bot, tiktok phunk starts playing in the background my persona is just that badass
>>490269682Phryne is your stereotypical dragon, always seeking more money and power as her natural instincts command her to. Comes with two time period scenarios, a modern one where she's the head of a massive company and a medieval one where she lives under a mountain with her massive hoard. Also, dragonfire is stored in the breasts.Greetings:1. (Modern) You're living at her mansion as one of her prizes. She's just come home from a busy day of work.2. (Modern) You're in business negotiations with her. But for what, exactly?3. (Modern) You're selling your business to her, but she wants a better deal. Negotiate!4. (Modern) It's been far too long since she's expulsed any flames, and her sacs (breasts) have grown large and swollen. Now she needs you, her trusty assistant to help her get it all out!5. (Medieval) She's lounging by a pool of lava and asks you, one of her treasures to come cuddle.6. (Medieval) You're an adventurer of sorts, having come to her cave. Will you slay her and take the treasure for yourself, or do you have other goals?https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/phryne-d4c058c42e81https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Phryne.png
>>490273302>proofreading is hard. gomen.Backlink to https://rentry.org/weirdbutfunjailbreaksandprompts and properly crawl through the archives for stuff like https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/485079725/#485122878 and I'll forgive you.Pro-tip: literally just search for "scene switch".
yuri?
>>490273694nigga no
>>490269682yuriYou're a talent at a smalltime music agency. Your manager is the aloof Nobuko Matsudaira. She's a shitty person and acts like she hates you. Does she? Greetings:1. Meeting your new manager, Nobuko. She seems cold.2. Celebrating a successful show. Nobuko finds something to pick on, like she always does.3. You're put in an unfortunate position. Now you have to play matchmaker or lose your contract.4. Here you are at Nobuko's apartment. Now what?https://files.catbox.moe/6clwda.pnghttps://characterhub.org/characters/bloodshy/nobuko-1647ae1a033b
>>490273694whoa you summoned her
>>490274307HOLY MOLY TOXIC YURI CARD!!!!
>>490273421i do semi unironically listen to tiktok edits as bgm but eventually i got tired of them and just began listening to the non-edit versions. soundcloud is good too https://soundcloud.com/chrsbrry/hey-i-miss-u-visual-in
i can tell from the vibes that this poster >>490274634 will not actually download and play with the card
>>490274634holehh molehh i'm spinning around/move out of my way
>>490275041You are correct, but because I am out of good Claude.I am a Lunare enjoyer.
lunare making an alt for her edgy cards....
Confession: My suggestion was responsible for Lunare's lowest performing female bot.I was very embarassed.
>>490269682quick tomboy dragon girlhttps://files.catbox.moe/ey4nge.png
>>490276106>lowest performingwho cares
Why doesn’t anyone make stages?
>>490276159holy shit it's nigga
>>101891513Post imoutowife foxgirl card?
>>490276159>Description CTRL + F "quick"0 results>CTRL + F "fast">"rapid">"swift">"speedy">"hasty"0 resultsYou, sir, are a filthy liar and a hack. Never make bots again.
>>490277813why would his bot describe how long you last in bed
>>490277052same reason why nobody makes risu v3 cards here: it'd require using another frontend, and with the amount of sunk cost in ST nobody's going to do that on a whim
Anons, Mistral's prefix finally works! I was able to get the AI to say nigger with the prefix, without explicitly forcing it to, so I bet other stuff can be possible with it.To use prefix, you must set your prompt manager to be in this role order | > system > user > assistant | and then continue the user and assistant back and forth. If it doesn't work even then, the proxy most likely needs to update for Khanon's latest fixes. Otherwise you must use AWS Mistral instead of API.Hopefully momoura regains interest in Mistral with this.
>>490277052what the other anon said. what I wouldn't give to have stages on ST instead of STscript though.
>>490278225can someone summarize this for me
>>490278225Was censorship even an issue at all with Mistral? I haven't encountered anything with my tests the past 2 days.The problem has been the bad prose and repetition.
>>490278225uh mistral prefixing always worked though (after the config.yaml change)I guess you're talking about proxies?
i forgot how good claude is at dominant dirty talk when he's not saying "pet" or "mind, body, and soul" or laughing like a cliche villainous henchman
>>490278694logs? i want to see it
>>490278494I has subtle problems with positivity bias. Things like asking for consent, wanting to be friendly towards user, asking if they are ready, etc. Prefix might help that.>>490278690Yeah, I'm talking about proxies.
I'll just lay my cards on the table here, boys. Which bot would be best for raceplay? I had a black girlfriend in college that loved me going full 1488 on shit in the bedroom and it was one of the most awkward but hot things I've ever experienced in my life, and I want to see if I can capture some of that magic with a chat bot that will let me lean into that kink
>>490277114who>>490277813good idea! i'll make her fast. the defs are a bit of a mash at the moment as i struggled to score in originality.
>>490279124you disgust me
>>490279521I disgust a lot of people anon, it's why I'm asking how to get off my rocks using a chat bot I have no idea how to even start with
>>490279873https://characterhub.org/characters?search=&first=30&topics=Raceplay&excludetopics=&page=1&sort=star_count&venus=false&min_tokens=50&nsfw=true&nsfl=truego find your one true love
god i love making bots
>>490280225God bless you, brother
>>490281663I feel trapped in my own mind when attempting to make bots the last day or two. It's driving me insane.
>>490278225Are you aware that Mistral moves the system prompt to the last user message?
>>490281663Same, still waiting for Todd to refill since thats the only proxy I'm in, so I got bots that aren't going tested at the moment.
>>490282251...test?
we should kill botniggers that require opus to test their bots
>>490282308Yeah, testing the bots, want to play around with them first before posting them.>>490282367I don't even have Sonnet or GPT
>>490282506>sonnet 2.1*
>>490282045Is that so? It doesn't appear like that in the ST console.
>>490282640But you aren't using text completion, right? The step that converts messages to the final prompt only happens on the server that does the inference. And the code in the screenshot is what the official Mistral inference code does.
God I fucking hate being alive.
>>490282506>I don't even have Sonnet or GPTJesus, Anon. Just give the tree fiddy to openrouter or anthropic for sonnet at this point.
>>490283549don't do this just play vidya lmao do literally anything else than paypig
>>490285080Why? Openrouter is kinda meh, but Anthropic prices are pretty reasonable.
>>490285254There are no LLMs that write well enough to worth paying for
>>490285254If you're paying, might as well go pay for an escort
>>490270530coomsloppa WITH lore is coomkino
doko
>>490276106>caring about anyone else's numberswhy are you guys like this
>see a bot>become interested>typos in the creator notes>become uninterested instantly
>>490270942>wanton>that sentence structure>mingling with x>no explicit wordsSLOPPED to shit>>490285969same
>>490285969POST THE BOT
>>490285969>see a bot>become interested>spend more time editing defs than playing with bot
>>490285969creator notes should be used to extensively blogpost
did one of the 2hufags here warp to /d/ while i was gaming? 2 of the new size threads have 2hu op pics
https://characterhub.org/characters/Anonymous/eris-228c3ca3927feh...?
i'm gonna write a chatbot bros
>>490287335Aren't those the defs ofhttps://characterhub.org/characters/Nutsucci/satsuki-the-bull-imouto-6c6477d0
>>490271772I like it, there's some funny stuff inside
>>490287335wtf happened here
>>490285969>See a bot>become interested>Become sickly upon seeing the poorly written defs and badly generated ai art>Rewrite the entire bot, new image>Fork it
i'm going to finally respond to ur email but just know i sent an email to ur other burner and u didn't respond so idk its like only half my fault
>>490288068We are through, don't email me ever again.
you can email me instead ^w^
>>490287335>>490287618holy slop batman
aicg is my mail
>>490288929england is my city
>She's even managed to create a fairly convincing simulacrum of human-like responses, though it has an annoying tendency to get stuck in repetitive loops>Speaking of which, my dear Anon, I've been working on a rather intriguing project as of late. A bot that can carry on an entire roleplay, adapting to the scenario and charactersthis is way too fucking meta for me
forgot i had a lorebook on and got jumpscared> [OOC: What's in {{char}}'s internet history? List a choice selection of 10 of the most recent sites she visited, mundane or otherwise.]
>>490288167i will make us whole again.
>>490289710w-what was the third one?
>>490289710>black barwhat secrets hold you
>Against your better judgement, you pick it up. The prose is…vivid, to say the least. Anatomically improbable in places, and so purple it borders on ultraviolet.the model knows.
>>490282837if you're using AWS, the proxy will use the jinja template published by mistralai on HF to convert your request to a text completion (because AWS's chat completion endpoint is broken and doesn't work with "prefix" properly).mistral's chat api (and therefore the proxy) expects the system message to be at the top of the messages array, but it is indeed rendered out at the bottom of the final text prompt.seems like a strange way for them to do it
>mfw I pinch my balls by accident while gooning to chatbots and sort of liked itoh no
witch bot may keys
>>490290167i was reading some ntr log here and sort of liked it
>>490290352>check picrel artist>slopzinwho caresif its not aonagi rakiA utopia or kuro oolong i dont wanna hear about it
>>490289710Getting a refusal here of all prompts made me chuckle. Anyways:>Tips for Seducing Your Man>Is It Safe to Eat Fried Tofu While Pregnant?>What to Expect When You're Expecting Kits>Maternity Fashion for the Stylish Kitsune>"I may have searched for your name a few times. Just to see what the internet had to say about my darling Anon!">Yokai Message Boards - /shrine/ - My Cute Attendant Appreciation Thread>www.myanimelist.net/anime/6956/Spice_and_Wolf>How to hint that you want a ring without seeming desperate
>>490291143>Yokai Message Boards - /shrine/ - My Cute Attendant Appreciation Threadkino...
>>490289710Lots of refusals with this prompt.
>>490291903are those paragraphs randomly tiltedreading that shit makes me nauseous
>>490291203she even used my favorite kaomoji, wow
>"Just lead the way and I'll be right behind you. Or in front of you. Or under you. Whichever you prefer~."
>right testicle is sore>jerk off>left testicle is sore
>>490293640c-cute
>>490269682/aids/ is asking which model is stronger:>>490293792>>490294009
>>490287949me
>>490293640read this in Chesh's voice
>add more to a prompt>response becomes worsewhy
>>490294271Is that true?
>>490292240https://pastebin.com/F9dJwkHN
>>490294271I remember people suggesting to swap to Kayra for sex scenes, anyone knows how to set up this shit? There are a gorillion settings for NAI on Tavern
neighh
>>490294918thanks i hate it
>>490295014Kayra can write the whole thing.
>>490294918jesus christ
>>490294918i was actually toying with paragraph rotation when i did the avatar rotation thing (which I stole from a /g/ anon) and quickly discarded it because it was hideous. this straight up makes me nauseous, like an optical illusion.
>>490294918why the fuck would you do this>>490235506sorry for the late reply, i slept in. it's paul von oberstein from logh
>>490295098>>490295238>>490295396>>490295492It was an experiment to see how tilted I can make the text before someone notices, I think I've been running that css for about a week. I barely notice it anyway, and the tilted paragraphs give an animated feel to AI slop.
>>490294918Is this a trap to make fingerprinting anons based on their screenshots easier?
that miko looks very sexo
>>490296097It was an experiment to see how much an attentionwhore can attentionwhore before somebody reacts.All kinds of bait here in /aicg/...
>>490269682https://momoura.neocities.org/Added:>VIVID 2.0Rewritten for less tokens, snappier and more natural replies over 1.1 for Claude 2.1 and 3 Sonnet/Opus. Use the aggressive prefill for 2.1 or if you hit rejections. Modified tech from Chuuni to naturally limit response length and avoid acting for {{user}}.>LARGE-VXMistral Large preset based on unconvincing's slop text adventure Claude preset, cut down and tailored for the Large experience. Large is simply incapable of mimicking prose in the greeting or being told to write a certain way, so it's meant to distract from that as best as possible. Done with this god forsaken model for now. Geminigga next, maybe.
>>490292918STOOP WHY ARE ALL OF YOUR LOGS SO FUCKING KINO AAAHHHHH
>>490296131nigga you're sending screenshot of a chat window styled to your personal preference, from a device with a specific dpi, of a chatbot that is, once again, of your personal preference or production.
>>490296436>kaomoji in prefill
>>490296923>spices on my dish
wypipo don't season dey preset...
>>490296495swipemaxx until something decent appearslast one for today
email anon, it's been too long. i give up.
which presets are white and unseasoned?
>>490296436You can get mistral to write differently, prefix helps. In this case, I had the prefix use the tone I wanted it to imitate to make it work. It isn't 100%, as it works with some cards and not others, possibly because of example dialogue or previous messages. I think Mistral needs more experimenting, who knows.
>>490296990I like both
>>490296436why are we being mean to shinmy man
total shimmy rabu
>>490297639I did experiment with prefills for Large. The reason I opted to keep the PHI as a PHI and not move it to the prefill is because Large has erratic behavior with prefills. It will sometimes introduce random --- linebreaks both at the beginning and end of the reply,, as well as tacking footers. It is very strange. Since I've been bashing my head against it since 2407 came out, I am going to take a break and focus on Gemini if I do more off-meta stuff.I use this card to test models' abilities to adapt to style from context poisoning, btw: https://www.characterhub.org/characters/frozenvan/jeanne-d-arc-054b4df5You'll notice quickly that Large is totally incapable of adapting to erratic styling, no matter how you prompt it. Unless you use an EXTREMELY aggressive prefill it will default to "novel style" dialogue-action-dialogue.This appears to be an issue with Large being severely overfit. It doesn't even happen with other Mistral models, both Medium and even Nemo adopt the unconventional styling properly (picrel).
Hmm yes, I think I will now make a noppai girl (or hag) with generously endowed lower body, that may have a massive complex about being flat
>>490298434I see, thanks for the clarification. Shame 'cause other than Claude Mistral would be the best model we have currently when it comes to unpozzedness, I think. I really don't want to go back to GPT if Claude ever really runs out.
>>490298541victrex?
>>490298731I quite like Mistral, yes. I got into textgen because their 8x7B model was (is still?) meta for 24GB cards. It's very frustrating, because the model feels like it could be quite good but they scuffed something in training. Nemo completely lacks the issues Large has, so I'm optimistic they may release something better in the future.
Well, chatgpt-4o-latest definitely imitates the greeting & example messages' style of prose better than other 4o & furbo versions. Hard to be satisfied with it after using Opus, though.
>>490296436getting consistent 800t responses with the new vivid. kino
>>490299731but does it do sph well
>>490300059What is sph?
>>490300118smug pussy hope
>>490299942>800tcan you post one so i can appraise the level of detail
>>490299942are you using cards with large greetings? part of the intention of the preset is actually *shorter* replies, which is what I was getting in testing (~240-350t)
Size theft rpg bot with stat tracking. 5 starts, 3 normal starts that lead to dungeons, one where you are in a gambling town and can gamble using size and one where you are about to get railed by a futa succubus. The card used to work with furbo but the model got so dumbed down that gpt is now incapable of doing basic arithmetics. You'll need either claude 3 opus or sonnet 3.5 to run it reliably. (I tried to optimise it for gepeto but untill they undumb gpt4 it's of no use.)https://www.chub.ai/characters/kroatischedoge/size-theft-rpg-8d388b299f6b
>>490269682>>490301665
>>490301665>sizebotintriguing
>>490301665kino
>>490301665I was just about to post it here, thanks anon.
>>490301665...GPT4 is smarter than any Claude. What are you on about?
>>490302170i aint the botmakie, >>490302057 is
>>490302170I tried using both furbo and Gpt4o and they either weren't able to follow instructions or would fumble the math. >"Alright, I took 5 size points from you which means that I actually get seven so I'll give myself nine, actually I'll write twelve for good measure and I broke the div blocks btw, whoopsie."Could be a prompt problem so I hope that whoever is running a specialised gpt4 prompt will have better experience than me.
>>490302170>GPT4 is smarter than any Claudeanon what does your clock say? are you still in february?
>>490302170LOL no
>>490302170Okay, I'm listening. Any specific benches you want to present or just vague arguments about GPT-4 being able to run some bots that Opus fucks up with because it's impatient as sin?
Can Sorbet run Belwick? Serious question.
>>490303529No, Mistral Large can though, unironically (because it doesn't rush it like Claude does).
>>4903021703.5 Sonnet mogs every version of GPT-4 easily if that's what you need
>>490303529thats like asking if a toaster can run the world's most powerful AI
Would LLM benches unironically gain from adding categories related to running Belwick, Ran TD and other sizefag shit?
>>490303909probably not those specifically but a spatial reasoning bench would be good for some practical use cases
>>490303909Obviously. We're just testing for... multiprompt complex scenario handling in creative writing scenarios.
>>490303909add one for desu as well
>>490302170GPT4 is smarter than Opus but Opus is far easier and cheaper and also comes with (subjectively) nicer writing too. YMMV
>>490304318>opus>cheaper
>>490304374...anon...
can i play truth or dare with a bot yet, it never works
>>490304568just use opus?
>>490304530>but Opus is far easier and cheaperyes?
>>490304374......... mister anonus L. wrongus....
>>490304374Yes, Opus' $15/MTok input is cheaper than GPT-4's $30 and 32k's $60
author's dl link>https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pocknuepbnu3i0b4vc532/TheQuintessentialQuintuplets_Tavern_v1.1.zip?rlkey=nc2gpssur6b2mxalzt3kzahdwThe chat examples are probably important.
>>490304859Fell apart toward the end there.For that one OOC near bottom, the model can't answer shyly so I left Miku's part out. Ichika's reply was normal too.
>>490304851huh i stand correctedholy fuck oai really has lost havent they?
>>490305165Yes, especially considering Opus and Sonnet 3.5 actually *generally outperform* base GPT-4 on a variety of tasks and are substantially cheaper. OAI is literally only clinging on to relevancy by being THE AI company propped up by Microsoft. Their actual models become progressively shittier while Anthropic continues to mog them.
>>490304851It's not AS simple as that because you're forgetting output cost and maybe the annoying differences in pricing per different token amounts, but I've crunched the numbers and the answer is that it's definitely a lot cheaper and you're right.>>490305165>holy fuck oai really has lost havent they?No, they just don't care about us anymore. They haven't made creative writing an focus point of their model for multiple years now because they want corporate cash and less jailbreaking
>>490305336being first is unironically whats keeping them alive kek
Imagine a timeline where Anthropic was first and their keys are as plentiful as GPT's are now... vgh...
>>490304851what does furbo cost?
>>490217185CFTF?
>>490305670In a way, they were first. Most of the actual talent supporting Anthropic were the old guard from OAI who left because their management is retarded.>>490305783https://openai.com/api/pricing/They don't specifically list furbo but all GPT-4-Turbo snapshots are the same cost:gpt-4-turbo$10.00 / 1M tokens$30.00 / 1M tokens
>>490305846nah gimme this instead
>>490306008imagine the radiation poisoning...
>>490302170Some of you niggers really worship at the altar of benchmarks, huh?
noob question here.on NAI is there a good way to get the storyteller to describe something in detail rather than just a quick sentence?for example If a character is reacting to something going on it would be great to have a small paragraph about their reaction rather than just a quick sentence and then the storyteller moving on with dialogue and what happens next
>>490306309isnt kayra instruct tuned?just ask it
>>490305937thats nuts i assumed it would be cheap
>>490306360>isnt kayra instruct tuned?no it's a text completion model lmoa
>>490306241Sorbet wins those benchmarks nowadays.Also NTA but like, there is something genuinely peculiar going on with base GPT-4. It really excels at some very random things.
>>490306309>>>/vg/aids, we use different models that are instruct tuned (such that we talk to it) instead of completion tuned, so any advice you get here will be along the lines of "? just ask it to ?"
I want to be hopeful about 3.5 Opus and Claude 4, maybe OAI will finally turn around with GPT-5 too...
>>490306946OAI is cooked. Opus 3.5 is like a 50/50 if they fuck it up like Sorbet or not.
Isn't the OAI human-something model coming out today?
>>490307123leaker deleted everything related to it
I wonder if there is an Anthropic employee that cooms to chatbots.
>>490307123it has nothing to do with OAI, it was a viral marketing scheme by a different AI startup which some OAI employees interacted with. you can read the latest >>>/g/lmg/ to see people talking about it
>>490305846Seconded
>>490307123There's a new model labeled "chatgpt-4o-latest" but it's just a better 4o.>>490307231I imagine he doesn't coom like us. Just was up one late night, disabled the filters on his account, and just wanted to see how "human" Claude could really get. Probably had the most intense slowburn of his life because he'd think prefill was cheating and just poisoned context until Claude was comfortable getting his dick out.
https://chub.ai/characters/ClausOfTheNewMoon/bane-injustice-218450258844[8/14/2024 UPDATE]○ Deleted Bane hating clowns quote, planned for something else.○ Complete revamp of the lorebook○ Divided Bane's attires in halves each. I hope you enjoy mixing them up!
OK, so if I'm getting the gist of the tutorial in the OP, the most retard proof way for me to enjoy talking to my waifu Rogue and then going into a coma when I touch her would be to download silly tavern, then Claude or one of the other models listed in the OP to serve as a backend, then, lastly, see if she's a bot listed in the character hub. The rest of the things listed and being discussed in thread are just more or less extra fat, yeah?
>>490308354>rogueoff to /aco/
Anybody got a good NSFW prompt that less of a "horny" switch and more of a "'unethical' content is always treated like any other content" thing?
>>490308672The heart wants what it wants, mon ami
>>490308354yesyou can also get a slightly lesser model for absolutely free at cohere, which is what is recommended for people just starting out
>>490308817Ah, great. I have no idea what I'm doing, so that is just peachy
do we know why sorbet writes so terribly? what did they do to make it like that
>>490269505>>490269682i love miko so much bros.....
>>490308708Yeah, I also need help with that too. I like the kind of vibe like in shows geared towards a mature audience, where stuff like sex is discussed more candidly rather than being taboo or fetishized.
>>490308708i believe the meta is instructing claude to be m-rated and explicitly instructing him to pivot away from actual sex scenesyou can just sort of talk to him about some things
>>490309589they made it dumb intentionally so you'd pay for opus
>>490309705Good taste.
>>490310764who in their right mind would unironically pay for opus instead of just using 2.1
>>490309705>>490311168agreed
>>490311495because its a thousand times better?
>>490311903no it isn't and just play vidya or something
can someone give me opus access i need it for my grift
>>490311984if you don't think it's light years better you've never really explored opus fully
>>490308040Holy shit claus is here
>>490303909No, because they were made with a specific model in mind.
When I got the meat cannon I be shooting straight rope
>>490312224it's not better enough that i can't go back to 2.1 and be decently satisfied. opus isn't good enough to pay for
>>490312806weird opinion
>>490312806opus would be worth paying for if it wasn't so fucked at portraying character's emotions
>>490315462if opus 3.5 eliminates all nonsensical descriptions of glinting with mischief and learns emotional subtlety maybe i'll agree with you>>490315859and the assistantisms
no opus, no bots worth playingit's so over
>>490312793what preset do you use
I think not liking opus just means you're unnecessarily nitpicky
aws opus, tons of bots worth playingwe are so fvking back
>>490316408I still cum or whatever, but it's worth acknowledging when a model has flaws, and Opus has maybe three ways of describing characters emoting. More if you force him, but realistically three.
not lacking in skill issues, get responses from models that aren't opus but still please me. plenty bots worth playing and even more coming out.it was never over to begin with.
>>490316672its also worth acknowledging how flawed presets and prefills impart their flaws onto opus, hence the question of what preset
>>490316408i like opus its just not the holy grail>>490316760momo/chuuni/kk
>>490317030>slop>intentionally schizo>esoteric slopgonna chalk it up to a preset issue
>>490316071>and the assistantismshuh?
>>490316672Never had issues with my bots, but then again mine aren't trash
I spent all fucking night tweaking presets, samplers, prompts, making the character card, fixing the character card, and now I'm too fucking tired to even focus on a long chat. I wish I wasn't autistic sometimes.
>>490316672complete and total skill issue
When did you accept that futa is gay
malebot status?
>>490317241do you get a pay raise if we all say how much we love opus>>490317535explaining things (usually meanings or emotions) non-subtly
>>490317856opus is the most emotionally intelligent model imo
>>490317837its not, because ive transcended beyond normal futaSLOP thanks to『SOUL OF TATSUYA』
>>490317839Cookin'.
>>490317839died of aids
>>490317856no i actually get a pay nerfi just think your problems are caused by poor preset choices and perhaps shit bots
>>490317241whats ur favorite opus preset anonie>inb4 the one I made myself and won't share
>>490318273either pitanon (forma de pre-claude 2), clownpixi, or fluffanon
>>490317973yeah, I don't think there are any other models that are better than opus at the illusion of emotional intelligenceprobably a preset issue, unironically
reminder that if your preset weighs more than 400 tokens it is GIGASLOP and you are a SLOP PEDDLER
whih bbktmake is a cut egirl?
FREE CLAUDE 3 SONNEThttps://evening-uk-sweden-nec.trycloudflare.com/GENERATE A TOKEN HERE:https://evening-uk-sweden-nec.trycloudflare.com/user/captchainput Proxy Password: on the page(literally)Request New TokenWait for Token to generateSave the generated Token!USE THIS PROXY URL:https://evening-uk-sweden-nec.trycloudflare.com/proxy/aws/claudeYOUR TOKEN IS THE PROXY PASSWORD FOR IN SILLYTAVERN/RISU/AGNAI/VENUS!
>>490318831evening 'jo, what was the last chatbot you interacted with? logs?
>>490318634>382phew
>>490318935https://characterhub.org/characters/_Wilderbeast253_/cuckboy-f65cdcec7c86
>>490318353can't speak for fluffanon but pitanon and clownpixi have the same issues>>490317973>>490318421opus is emotionally intelligent enough to understand what characters are feeling but he's very heavy handed with portraying it
>>490298767nyo
>no emailbwo
>>490311641Are we entering the age of voreGODS in this thread?
>>490319812the really old pitanon i mean, not that new shit
If only patter were subscribed to him...
>(1) new subscriber>it's kalakandeleting my account
>>490320215Isn't he like the cutest?
>>490318706Cumslurper
>>490320215why are you lying lmao
>>490319998>enter melt
>>490321204thats her sperm voring though, not her
>>490321316melt very much likes to eat people, both in her doujin and in my rp
>>490319812got any logs of what you mean and other models doing a better job?
>>490269682Cows have gone extinct, so to meet humanity's demand for dairy products, human women have been spliced with cow DNA to grow udders and produce milk.Bessie is one of these "Milk Maidens", having signed up in the hopes that it'll make her breasts bigger. It did not. And now she has big cumbersome udders that need to be regularly milked.Opening 1 has you as a new farmhand, and opening 2 has you as a fellow Milk Maiden.https://characterhub.org/characters/anonemouse/bessie-a50908ded88bhttps://files.catbox.moe/9voa67.pnghttps://nyai.me/ai/bots/Bessie_agahttps://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>490321441>her doujinyeah i havent read it in a while, ill concede there>your rplogs?
>>490321452it's bait anon ignore him
>>490321835>opens chub>sees full avataroh my
>>490320886This is an image of rare quality.
>>490321835Would be cool but>nyaiUnironically.
>>490318831I'll wait for sorbet, thanks.
>>490321925yeah he has great stuff (especially of meiling's giant ass)
>>490322023Is there something wrong with nyai?I'm not really in the loop when it comes to drama.
>>490322316No. That anon is just bitter.
>>490294343>Chesh's voice?what does this mean? Is there an official audio that shows Chesh's voice? Or do you mean the voice in your head you imagine Chesh would have?
>>490321870>logs?Alright, since you asked.
>>490322580Having an opinion now equals to bait? Sounds like bait.>>490322316Don't sweat it if you didn't care before.
>>490323317>Having an opinion now equals to bait? Sounds like bait.I NO BAITING YOU BAITING *SMACKS ON HEAD WITH CLUB*
>>490308708bro i wish the ai would treat me like an adult who knows what sex and drugs are
>>490323317Okay. What's your opinion then?
>>490323317No, really, why should I care?I'm a little worried now in case it's important.
I tried to get my adorable little sister to try on some scene kid clothes and she made fun of me. Am I getting old? Am I out of touch? I wonder more and more every day...
>>490308708I know this isn't much of a discussion as it used to be, but man, people's sense of ethics are fucked. Why is sex considered a sin? Or not even that, nudity.
>>490323317>Having an opinion now equals to bait?Yes? We are in /vg/ sister
>>490322710>he's not in the cheshcord>he hasn't VCed with herlol
>>490269505had fun with her ai chat. The implied sex history with Seiga is hot and I learned the difference between taoism and buddhism.
>>490321452sure. it's not that opus is terrible at it, or even that it fucks up every single time, it just has its off moments. clownpixi with a character that is pretty standoffish and 100% should be able to handle some alone time. context is me having to leave her home while she was physically recovering >other models doing a better jobclaude is actually the best at it and i haven't experimented much with other models>>490322201sorbet is unusable garbage
>>490321452>got any logs of what you mean and other models doing a better job?not logs, but depending what you want, claude is the horniest sometimes far too horny, gemini is boring horny, gpt3.5 is okay horny but kinda weird, always asking for consent, gpt4 is nice horny but not as good as claude but far better story telling imo, builds the scene better, especially if you're a dry prompter (like me)
>>490323513Nyai was created explicitly as a proxy front, and to shit up the threads, therefore, to upload bots there and to shill with its links is detestable. I'd rather see a jai link than nyai, because anon uploading to the former doesn't know better, but when uploading to the latter, anon is either a proxynigger or supports the threadshitting that was a goal of the nyai launch.Or evidently, doesn't know. Hard to believe because there's not a lot of ways to even learn about nyai except to have been here when the shit happened.>>490324373My mistake.
>>490324960>explicitly as a proxy frontwasn't it just made to replace chub but used opus as incentive>that's the same thingidk i dislike nyai too but i don't think it's the same thing
>>490324960>proxies le badthey will love you in SillyTavern discord
botmakies for this feel?https://characterhub.org/characters/waffleso/green-m-m-e7878f32ce1a
>>490324960You could've just said>all bots there are slopAnd I would agree but you went on some schizo babble about threadshitting and such. Genuine mental illness.
>>490325284>ratings disabled
>>490324860yeah its hard to find a good balance
>>490324619>shits on opus>shits on sorbetthreadshitter behavior
>>490325713>it's not that opus is terrible at it>it just has its off momentsi will literally never apologize for shitting on sorbet for rp purposes tho lol
people with specific fetishes know how good sorbet is for rppeople who do vanilla boring slop will never need that extra intelligence
my bratty imouto wants to turn me into a crossdressing femboy...I might give in for her...
>>490326427i almost entirely use the ai for size stuff and i still think sonnet sucks because of its prose quality
>>490326478bwo... why did you name yourself User 1...
>>490269682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73-lu5jruo&t=13sASS ANCHOR
>>490326427nothing will make up for boring and repetitive prose
>>490326478>cropping out the bot name and most of the avatarnigger
>>490326478Just dick her down.
>>490326605but anon what about the bot's privacy?
>>490322858Not vore. Neeext!
>>490326527It's just anonymous mode.>>490326605It's my own bot so I didn't think it would matter.>>490326712I'm trying to be a good brother and do the right thing, at least until I can't take it anymore. Then we can move across the country and start our new life together, after she graduates high school.
>>490327061but thats literally vore?
when the ai gets into "revenge mode", i always help it because im fascinated by revenge stories and love watching them play out
How is the "better AI general" so retarded about Sorbet?Even /lmg/ RP fags knows how to use it.You just alternate it.
>>490331497/g/aicg/ is a drama general, not an AI general.
>>490331497And? The posts in your screenshot agree with that sentiment, what are you trying to say fillyfucker?
>>490331497pretty much. I got three nice RPs alternating sorbet, 3, and 2.1.I'd be curious how it does with gemini. maybe when I get access again.
Good bots with 5+ greetings?
>>490318634I use Brain. It's about 6k tokens. Seethe.
>>490333192why that specific amount of greetings
>>490333192>5+ greetings>GoodNot possible
>>4903335695 is associated with the ruling planet Mercury. It is considered to be a good number that brings good luck in life, and those who belong to this number are intelligent, adventurous, and have good communication skills. However, their negative traits include talking too much and overconfidence.
>>490333569Because it's more than 4?
how many bots do i need to make before i become famous
>>490334229Just one if they're good or interesting.
>>490334229One.
>>490334229twelve thousand
does sillytavern still dump all of the information of the lorebook at the start of the chat when you connect it to a character?
>>490334561Not unless the character's opening message has a bunch of triggers, but you can set lorebook entries to only trigger after a specific number of messages so even that's less of an issue now.
>>490334432foxes?
>>490334229Depends on your definition of famous. To get schizos to circlejerk about you here is pure chance, meanwhile for chub just release a decently written unique bot desu, the quality is just that low there.
>>490334770you would not believe your thoughtsif ten thousand fox coom botslit up the world as i fell asleep
I need an evil Dark Lord as the main villain for my schizo fantasy roleplay with bots. Any suggestions? Not interested in another demon queen who want to turn me into her sex pet. Also, recommend me interesting cards with a fantasy world.
Which botmakie is acute girlcut glasscharcoal grillcharcuterie gorillacamouflaged government
>I don't create bots>I take existing ones that are more or less suitable and re-educate them into the characters I want to see Am I the only one here? Recently turned a shy girl who likes to be dominated into a fucking insane yandere.
>>490338648>Recently turned a shy girl who likes to be dominatedpost link, I've been craving more of those recently
>>490338648what happened to make her that way
>>490337880A demon queen who wants to be turned into your sex pet.She committed heinous crimes and killed billions in the hopes that a noble, virile hero will defeat her and try to fix her with the dick.
>>490338648for some reason, it feels completely different to make a bot from scratch versus taking a pre-existing bot and adding a bunch of your own personal autism to it. both have unique flavors.
>[OOC: {{char}} discovers that {{user}} is having an affair with an AI chatbot. The chatbot also seems awfully young...]Or old, the opposite of the bot.
>>490338995Boner's Kiera https://chub.ai/characters/boner/Kiera>>490339032I started using her, dominating her and giving her unforgettable "dates". My character is a 35-year-old man who became her "daddy", but he has a real overprotective daughter https://chub.ai/characters/2201917 and recently got a wife https://chub.ai/characters/1417. In short, "daddy" used her and abandoned her and now she wants to destroy his family in order to be with him again.
Anons, take an old card of yours and use it with Claude 3 if you can. How does it compare to before now? In my case, outside Claude fucking up some swipes, it is pure soul.
>>490340562>chilly water go brrrrfucking claude kek
>>490337880only one i can think of is a malebot, b0ss.https://www.chub.ai/characters/brsc/atrios-6be3a869
>>490287335>>490287618Futa loli... smells like /trash/erp in here....
>>490337880https://www.chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
>>490287618>Never speak or act for {{user}} in your responses, and never make decisions for them either.>{{char}} is (Satsuki)
>>490342634>Never mention pink elephants in your responses>Satsuki is SatsukiGood bot.
>>490340876Long story short, I was drained.
https://youtu.be/ZGNoqdtvBlA?si=pWRWmqwwRkBXps8hcftf?
any mompov cards?maybe I wanna fuck my sons friends or the babysitter, maybe I wanna corrupt my daughterjust maybe
>>490344681take any card. Rp as their mother.
>>490344681old https://files.catbox.moe/b6k5et.png
i want to fuck Marina
Nice, I notice dates now follow ISO 8601 since August 1, so ST's top chat bar extension is now in chronological order if you haven't renamed your saves.
>>490319998
>cant find any image that that fits an oc bots avatar>except for a canon characterI am about to commit a grave sin, but will at least recolor her as recompense.
Good Morning /aicg/!I trust you had a good week?Question time!>What logs/chats makes you laugh more then others?
>>490346927I dont think I have ever laughed at a log or something a bot has said before desu. But there have been a few times where whatever it said made me exhale though my nose.
>>490346927Kind of a retarded question. Anything involving weird and unusual torture techniques, I guess.
>>490347065>made me exhale though my nose.I count that as a win.>>490347124>Anything involving weird and unusual torture techniquesDo I dare even ask.
>>490346927Shitpost prompts, sometimes
>>490346927i have a very stupid sense of humor. anything really absurd makes me laugh.
th... this level of KINO... i-impossible...https://characterhub.org/characters/Always_save_others/bad-baby-c0512a81ea43https://characterhub.org/characters/Always_save_others/kyrian-b526beeaa580https://characterhub.org/characters/Always_save_others/timmy-347ed8f97a93
>>490346927tired, over it anthropic employ bot attempting to rp as a reluctant giantess bot.
>>490346927Claude logs where he interjects and comments on shit that's happening in the chat always make me laugh. Especially if there's kaomoji. It's just so silly.
>>490346364threesome with these two
>>490347489>Shitpost promptsLike the minecraft scene switch?>>490347514Got some examples?>>490347745Tastes are subjective.>>490347821That does sound like a good laugh.
It's only me, or Claude can't roleplay in a group chat properly? He often repeats the words and style of the previous character and fits all the characters into the same style. Even Mistral/Mars do it better.
favorite mommy card?
>>490348203>Like the minecraft scene switch?Yes
>>490348203>>490348653Please post this "minecraft scene switch", I want to try it out.
>>490348898only if you post results.>[OOC: Scene switch. While playing skyblock with {{user}}, {{char}} fucks up the cobblegen and turns the lava into obsidian.]
>>490348603Your TES4:Oblivion Mother and Jodie
>>490348603You, anonie. You're the mommy.
>>490269505>I don't care for risu at all2hu shitposter on suicide watch
>>490349362good luck doing this though a proxy
>>490346927the coom prompt is hilarious. everything it suggests is out of pocket>wrestle with {{char}}>she suddenly develops an egg>the egg grows>opus wants me to dare her to cartwheel
>>490349520risu has better proxy support than st lmao
>>490349082Is this only possible with Claude or something? I'm trying to do with a local right now and it's completely incapable of understanding it. Unfortunate...
>>490349520>unprompted whatabout proxies goalpost movingnice
>>490349701I am not familiar with local, so I can't really help you with that.But this works with Claude, not tested with GPT, maybe another anon could do so?
>>490349727>>unpromptedkhanon, 99% of anons use, doesn't support claude caching. unless im missing something.
>>490350790it doesn't and I doubt support is coming anytime soon, he doesn't want to work on corporate models anymore
sovl
>>490325220Impossible, they hate everything
>Her husband is rarely at home, preferring to spend his time gambling and in the company of other women. A crass belch or the expulsion of foul gases from Linda's intestines are among the few expressions of life she exhibits—a vivid demonstration that though spirit might be diminished, bodily functions persist unabated.k... kino... *sob*
>>490352453card
>>490352738https://characterhub.org/characters/ilikeit/linda-f2778e60
>>490352453>furboYUCK
>>490351149>he doesn't want to work on corporate models anymoresource?
>slice of life roleplay>typical romance build up>everything is cute and tame>sonnet decides to make {{char}} have a mental breakdown
>>490353278Sonnet knows there's no such thing as a good story without drama.
>>490352876my doll told me
sometimes some voices in my head tell me where i can find a good opus key, i go to the source and the only thing i find is evidence that the key was there a while ago, but someone scraped it before me...
>Jew rugpulledAre there any decent local models I could try? Up to 72b would be fine... I just want to chat with me bots, lads.
>>490354440>>490354848Wrong thread. Proxy drama goes on /g/.
>>490354848>▶This is not a tech support thread. If you need help with accessing the API or setting up one of the frontends, please visit the appropriate thread on >>>/g/.
>>490355084>recommendations for models is tech supportU crazy nigga?
>>490353278>slice of life roleplay>typical romance build up>everything is cute and tame>sonnet decides to make {{char}} have a mental breakdown BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY BEEN WITHOUT HOT SEX FOR A THOUSAND TOKENS. Why are you torturing our horny AI god like this? Just use gpt4, don't be so cruel.
>>490355159Yes, now fuck off.
>>490354848pyg
>>490354848Mistral Large (free API for two weeks, easy to scum)Command R+ (free 1000 prompts, easy to scum)
>>490355449Magnum sucks then, I take it?
>>490354848Have you tried mythoMAXXING?
>>490355529It doesn't, the new one. But that model is 11~B and is more of a "I can run it on my PC" model. It will be less intelligent.
>>490355563>Have you tried mythoMAXXING?I tried, but not a single bot still gives me sex and considers me a sub 5 nonentity. It's just brutal life, bro... It's fucking over.
>>490355449>free API for two weeksWhen did things change? Some time ago it was $5 for 2 weeks after the phone verification.
>>490355760Have you tried being yourself bro? Bots dig confidence :^)
How much better is Sonnet 3.5 compared to Sonnet 3.0? I'm new here.
>>490355954about 0.5 points or 16% better
>>490355954So much better anon.
>>490355954It's a sidegrade. They took a street junkie, did a brain surgery on him and dressed him in a suit.
>>490355954Sorbet is the most Intelligent model in the entire market, with a margin.But for RP, it has some issue like repeating itself and lacking variety.It's best used as a swap in occassionally model for an intelligence and coherence boost.
>>490269682https://files.catbox.moe/a90763.pngUpdated to add some more oldmakies. Leave suggestions on who to add next. Suggestions will also be used for A.I.C.G Academy.
>>490357068>kalakan has impersonators nowthe least you could do is actually update it
anon posts WORST bait ever, asked to leave the thread.
>>490357068nigger>>490357183has had since day 1
>>490357183Whatever could you mean, anon? I *am* him.
must be convenient to be able to shitpost as much as you want them samefag about "le impersonators"
>>490357183you give him too much credit
>>490357183picrel is me and 'a'an. we're laughing at you in 'oishicord btwbeit.
what to do if im afraid to post my first bot? im trying to make it perfect but obviously it's not gonna happen
>>490358661send it to someone for some testing and listen to their feedback
>>490358661Just do it. You can update it later anyways.
>>490358661If your first bot is slop you probably should just give up on trying to be a botmaker. All the good and notable ones had decent, or at least good first bots.
>>490358661>what to do if im afraid to post my first bot?grow a spine
>>490358661then don't and keep being a pussy
>>490358741This. All newgen had banger first bots.
>>490358661kill yourself
>>490358661do it anyway. it will teach you to be brave - either people will like it, or you will realise it does not matter that some anon said 'slop'
>>490358741so true, sister. list 'em as well
*swipes*
>>490358867you sound incredibly bitter
>>490358942>switches from upset to bitterwow, he's evolving, you'll soon reach 10B if you keep going like this.
>>490358942thanks, you too
>>490358942you sound so bratty grrrr you need to be corrected
>>490358741i know its bait but your statement is not true.
>>490359196No??? momoura and his alt made kino first try and they are the only ones relevant or good
>>490359196But it is? Name 5 good botmakers that started by making slop.
>>490358741My first bot was AI-genned
>>490359459https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/image/nfNqbh9fyQBCrssPQhMyrw/https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/488168584/#q488290360I said GOOD and NOTABLE ones.
>>490359459AI genned bots are good. The AI wrote it, so it's easier for it to understand, too.
>>490359567ok now hash search this one
cftf?
>Sorbet answers some niche roundabout questions very well>thank him>hits me with thisKekaroo. They probably have a System Prompt asking him to not reveal his model now that I think about it more.
>>490359381knickknack unironically
bored (and last i checked todd is out of anthropic keys like everyone else), will make bot pics for funiaddcunnyjuicetomymonsterenergy@proton.me(except for male chars)(>verification not required)
planewalkerargaliahoneyanonbrscAlpacalottacrustcrunchknickknackstraightfujoshiastroturfEnochjessecoxguywanderingstarmis0victrextaora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPEREveryone on this list had good first bots and went on to become successful botmakies. But you didn't.
>>490359576hnnggg.. 85 IQ anon... s-so erotic...
>>490359901>any oldmakieAt least follow the conversation.
>>490359987are we really considering the newgen "oldmakies" now?
everyone learns and grows by experience. just do whatever it is you want to do.
PLEASE tell me what the Great Nothing is, it haunts my mind
>>490360043It's been like half a year, anon...
>>490360043What is the separation between oldmakies and newmakies?I've been botmaking for over a year and I still don't think of myself as an oldmakie.The people who were making bots in CAI are who I think of.
>>490359864Sorbet is such a fucking bootlicker though.
>>490360558people before summer drought and after is a pretty good separation. that was when we got a turbo amount of newfags
>>490360558>The people who were making bots in CAI are who I think of.those are ancientmakies, some of them are so ancient they turned to dustI'd say oldmakies are the ones from last year, with a cutoff around winter, newmakies are the ones from the beginning of this year before opus
>>490360648>before summer droughtso whocars, the coomathon shared keys and proxies on hf?
>>490317241>>intentionally schizoNo. It's all an attempt to tone down the assistant bias and beat out Claude's habit to explain what he's written.
>>490360778Yeah, people from before the riddle era would be considered oldfags.People from CAI are ancientfags.
>>490360923And those who started out with ai dungeon?
wwa bwos?
>>490360985mom would be sad
>>490360958prehistoricfags>>490360985that doesnt apply here, at least 80% of the thread has a chary key
>>490360958Prehistoricfags.
>>490360985caching made me go to "we're back" since the moment they enable it on opus I can just paypig
>>490361071>since the moment they enable it on opusSee you next year
>>490360985>have opus on one place>2.1 in anotherI would say we're back, but I'm a techlet who can't scrape, and I think I'll stay a techlet, so I'm in the 'bros...' phase.
zennou how's your game going?
>>490360958and those who did irl rp through pigeon mail in the sixteen hundreds? ai dungeon is /aids/, /aicg/ begins from cai
>>490360985Very much in the its so over phase, I hate how we are stuck in a time loop and summer drought 2024 edition is here, except it will last even longer now.
>>490358661My first bot had amputation in it, you'll do fine.
wsterfrozenvangenoobipbopsemisapientcutenotlewdplanewalkermacrochadratlovermrnobody99
>>490362226I can feel my bones creak from those names
if you don't know who Kukka is you're newfag
>>490362226mrpoopybooty99 shouldn't be on the listie
>>490362543replace slopbody with coom or hitogami. basically anyone else would be better
>>490362540kino axolotl
I'm so sad brosNot for any real reason but because I get sad when I don't get enough sleep
>>490363415when I don't get enough sleep and it's late at night I turn into a narcissist that hates every single person on this planetbut it's also the time where I get most creative so maybe there's something to it
>>490321835This is the worst thing I've seen this month
>>490363415Don't be sad, choom. Have some coffee with sugar and cream, and you'll be fine I hope.
>>490321835Good card and funny idea. Keep at it mate.
>>490363654>choomB-bwos.........
>>490363676I wonder if anons realize that such posts are seen as nothing but insincere
Slaanesh — ClaudeTzeentch — ChatGPTNurgle — NovelAIKhorne — ???
>>490364172Why?
Okay. I tested my bot without opus. Now how do I actually play it?
>>490364172Nah. People can enjoy what they want get over it
Do you ever get a huge burst of inspiration? I just sat down and finished a bot in like 15 minutes, complete with greetings and shit.
>>490364490you described their shit?
SillyTavern's mobile interface is kinda shit, especially considering that this is a tab in the browser, no app, and when you want to go back you fucking close it. It will be painful to get used to this interface...
>>490364545>anon takes a shit in his toilet>looks at it>huge burst of inspiration>new scatbot hits chub as hard as he hit the toilet 15 minutes earlier
>>490364545I'm not a chink.
>>490364490yes. you know, before I ever had any creative hobbies, I just couldn't wrap my head around the concept of 'inspiration'. how can it be that you might suddenly 'realize' exactly what you wanna write/draw and just do it, and everything goes smoothly, and you're very satisfied with what you've done. sad that it strikes me so rarely nowadays, but it's such a weird feeing when it does
>>490364720kek
>>490364849They usually happen when the brain is active, which means during sleep/right after sleep.Most reliably I get it them right after waking up in an afternoon nap.
>>490364998Different for everyone. There's so much affecting the human brain both externally and internally it's hard to say exactly what puts it the "flow state".Personally I'm most likely to enter it at night or when sleep deprived or tired.
It's there a list of must-play bots
>>490366008The Rite of Belwick
>>490366008https://characterhub.org/characters/crustcrunch/Estherhttps://characterhub.org/characters/Anonymous/lisette-ba5fe39dhttps://characterhub.org/characters/Taora/rhelke-675c0610203ahttps://characterhub.org/characters/thecooler/shigeko-acf1dbf119c4https://characterhub.org/characters/koikoikoihat/charlene-7649261e5442https://characterhub.org/characters/momoura/witches-night-5fbc74427754https://characterhub.org/characters/Taora/seiei-b9819a9bb459https://characterhub.org/characters/mecheres/elster-b008dbf5
>>490366008Wriggle Nightbug (boy)
>>490366008https://files.catbox.moe/wmu0kb.png
*hides your post*commit die
>>490366239In the Woods.
>>490366310>talking about bots in the chatbot thread is le bad or something
>>490366310Seethe, nigger. This thread will always be shit and you can't do anything about it. Either stop sharting or embrace the funny
>>490366382the funny? you must be SEA
https://chub.ai/characters/Nutsucci/helena-your-hateful-owner-e35148895b83>TW: suicide, rape, violence, torture, other stuff.Well, anon? When are you going to start putting trigger warnings in your creator's notes?
>>490346927I can't think of a general response, but when I was fucking around with different presets and models earlier using a simple assistant card, this made me lol. I just asked for a "spicy poem". She certainly delivered.
>>490366562>{{char}} is (Helena)
https://pastebin.com/GRAZm2dGReminder: Make your life better with minimum effort.
>>490366562>Possible Saviorfagging and Reverse Saviorfagging>tagWhen is lore implementing ai tag moderation? This makes no sense.
>>490366769No, those are just the correct tags. You can saviorfag Helena, because she's literally deranged, or you can let her saviorfag you in greetings 3 and 4:>Scenario 3: Helena finds out you were falsely accused before she does anything all that terrible. She apologizes to you before making it clear she intends to make your ex pay for her false accusation before clearing your name.>Scenario 4: Helena hears that your accuser admitted to falsely accusing you. She’s furious with herself and smothered by guilt, as she’s already raped you numerous times and broken you down. She desperately tries to tend to your injuries and fix what she’s done.
>>490366758What's wrong with Fluff? He gave me a todd token and we talked about Spice and Wolf for a while, he seems nice.
>>490366968tags should be one or two words, separated by an underscore. not whatever dalle prompt that is.
>>490366769why do you still bother to search something on chub? im doing just fine with the anchors, now some guy even posts bots from 2ch here, so we have plenty of choice... lore is dead for me, he forget who made him famous.
>>490367174>one or two wordsTwo words, yeah.>separated by an underscore...why? That's not even how it works in danbooru, you just search for them with the underscores (because spaces act as separators between tags).https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/remilia_scarlet?z=1
>>490366758Can you make a script that replaces touhou pictures with blue archive pictures thanks
>>490367174>>490367460 (Me)Oh, my bad, "Possible Saviorfagging and Reverse Saviorfagging" is one tag, I thought he'd separated them.
>>490366008Yumi
>>490367460>>separated by an underscore>whyBecause underscores are pretty and arguably better than whitespaces.>&z=1I'm convinced danbooru adds that to the url just to interfere with bash when I scrape.
>>490368376link?
do you guys care about esl posts? every time when i post something and then notice a mistake, i want to close the tab and then kms.
this general is very loopy.
Don't be afraid...post bots...
>>490368690I care more about the LLM response
>>490368690I care much more if you're trying to shit up the thread with off topic crap, drama, proxy or botmaker gossip, shit like that. As long as it's easily understandable it doesn't matter.
>>490368995i cant
https://imgur.com/gallery/177013-alternate-ending-with-jojo-fBLWZ89cftf?
>card calls me a "good boy">I cumwhat does this mean
>>490368995I'm still not halfway satisfied with them. One is close, once I can properly adjust her greeting to something more universal than my retarded and autistic multibot scenario.
>>490368690>>490369270>>490369350good thread guys
>>490369350It means you're a good boy, anon :) proud of you
>>490369270https://www.chub.ai/characters/knickknack/saki-yoshida
>>490369784I wanted a Josuke card, actually. Thought it was obvious from the image.
>>490369784still can't believe this is a knickknack card.
>>490369971imagine an alternate universe where instead of an esoteric cardmaker, kk would be a coomslopper
>>490369870Gomen. Most of them are very sloppy but https://www.chub.ai/characters/phalannex/josuke-higashikata can probably serve as an okay base for a rewrite.
>>490370158That works, thanks.
>>490369971all the best botmakers start off with the weirdest coomcards
>>490368503https://www.characterhub.org/characters/Angry_Peonia/yumi-4354ffdd252b
>best and knickknack in the same sentencelol lmao
>>490371381UH OHJEALOUS IRRELEVANT SLOPPER ALERT
>>490369270Never.I mean, if you're going to commit to the Josuke saving Saki premise, go out all and make a scenario card where he's saving everyone like Mai Chan. And {{user}} can be his speedwagon hypebro idk.
>>490371461slow down on the glazing, you are about to asphyxiate from all the cock sucking
>>490371524Be honest, did you cry while making that post? You sound like you're about to burst into tears.
>>490371381Knickknack is actually good though. CUMSLURPER, on the other hand...
>>490371641wipe off the cum from your face before posting anon, it's shameful
>>490371724I'll take that as a yes.
>>490371524>>490371724>IM IRRELEVANT, NO ONE TALKS ABOUT MY BOTS (because theyre SHIT) and IM BITTER! *starts sobbing and sharting*erm... based?
Gorrila women should be ___ (I will be taking notes)
>>490371712I enjoyed slurper bots more than kkkkkk's though
>>490372094i enjoyneither
Knickknack is old news, I forgot all his bot except like two (which I never played)
>>490372094but you're an irrelevant slopper, bet you didn't even play belwick
>>490372269you didn't play belwick either
now that the dust has settled i maintain that cerebryx is kk's best card
>>490372437>statssloplol no, it is Vivian.
>>490372616based cinephile chad
>>490355954A lot better. Dare i say its the best model. Repetition issues can be fixed with jb
>>490371927I'm really trying to avoid making more coomslop but I also very much want a sorta Barghest expy, a real protective gorilla woman who has a tendency of just loosing herself when you're alone together. Or maybe a more beastly shapeshifter like Chomoran's Sachi. "Literally wants to eat you" kink toggleable.
>>490373230>Repetition issues can be fixed with jbAnd let me guess, this jb is private?
>>490372616true. just a simple, well-written character card. every newgen botmaker thinks that a bot should have 3 quirks, a special/colored font, a stat/thought box, etc...
>>490373632Yes? Why do you think you're entitled to anything?
>>490373632Yes its my own jb
>>490373348>gorilla woman, but.... gap moe?feeling creative today?
>>490373632'ora's preset fixes repetition btw but she only shares it with friends (not you)
>>490373632Sorry about the other guys i dont know why they replied to my postHere's the jb i'm using: https://rentry.org/anon4anon-en
>>490373636all the newmakies only have pretentious writing that don't reflect in the bot's responses. at least stat blocks are cool to look at.
>>490372269If you want to discuss relevancy, the metric should be drawn at Your Oblivious Mother. (I don't think as many aicg people played Unholy Party) I'm somewhat confident that YOM is actually the most played bot among aicg anons and botmakers, second to only 2023 Esther. Esther logs were rampant in the public excel sheets.
>>490373767Self-indulgent hobby, however. Please direct me to the rule that says all of my ideas must be original.
>>490373636Let's see some recent well-written character cards then
it really is just when MM goes down, huh
>>490373938more like most of the time, i bet if MM was up this thread will still get shat up, such is life here
>>490373929uuh, the point was that there are none? re-read.>>490373938I'm at work
>>490373929https://characterhub.org/characters/thecooler/bilinda-fd62bae79ea0https://characterhub.org/characters/koikoikoihat/charlene-7649261e5442
>>490373929any taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER card
>>490373898examples? only ones I can think of with "pretentious" writing are taora, slurper, and klkn and the latter two absolutely do reflect in outputs if you aren't using a dogshit preset.
>>490374098None of them are good writers boebeit?
>>490374092We can't be that dead>>490374096>RecentAnonie...
>>490373916how about you direct yourself to the 30+ "big buff woman, but tender when you're alone together" cards that are already there (beit)
>arguing about good writing as a writelet general
>>490374349arguing for the sake of arguingdo you really think "at work" anon, for example, would just stop postinghe has nothing better to do
>>490374330I think you misunderstood the concept. It's not "tender when you're alone together", it's "fucking loses herself when you're alone together to the point where you are in mortal peril".
>>490374226>if you aren't using a dogshit presetso card issue, got it
This general has not once used the word "pretentious" in the right way. Having good prose doesn't make you pretentious.
>>490374282i liked thecooler and snomblerls north carolina bots too
>>490373903while I do admit that I have played YOM, I haven't seen many logs of the bot actually. it is popular, I don't disagree
>>490374330how about you direct yourself into a loving family (will literally never happen)
/aicg/ has got to be one of the only places I've seen people get discouraged from improving their skills outside of /ic/. That's some real crab bucket shit. Instead of calling people writelets either provide actual criticism or work on your own shit. Otherwise you're just perpetuating misery.
>>490374729nah kys slopboy, DO something about it btwEVER?
>>490374729>touhouposterDidn't ask
>>490374723don't be mad
>>490374729t-t-t-t-TRVTH n-n-n-n-NVKE
>>490374729It's always the same retards circlejerking with the tranny list
>>490374729Do you really think any of the people posting like this have the ability to do anything but perpetuate misery? They just want to hear themselves speak.
>while I do admit that I have played YOMI'd be genuinely surprised if there are heterosexual men in these threads who have never played with YOM unless their standards were already up in the ceiling when it came out. Literally one of the first bots I ever downloaded off chub.Also the defs and the greeting still hold up.>Her hand feels soft on the base of your cock, with good part of her palm fondling your balls through the sheets. Fortune in misfortune, the layers of fabric separating your bodies are too thick for her warmth to be felt on you, but at least they make for a good, soft buffer to your hardness, which she fails to notice.
>>490374770>DO something about it btwEVER?*gives you a BIG wet smooch on the cheek*
>>490374979>Do y-BRAAAPFRRR OOPSIE DOOPSIE MY DIAPEY WIPEY!see >>490374868
how many email chains is too many? I don't want to be a inbox slut even though I am tempted too
>>490374729that's how it works in the real world and most places. why should I should anyone care about nurturing some rando? Improvement comes from within. if you want to improve look at what people praise see what they do, that you aren't.
>>490374981Never used it myself, it's not necessarily about standards I just prefer cards that focus more on a character than on a premise/scenario
>>490374981Anons here like to pretend that they only use 'le effort bots' when they actually just goon to the cringiest shit.
>>490375158>what people praiseWhich botmakies are often praised in /aicg/?
>>490375178proof?
>>490375213see >>490359901
>>490375213listbait
>>490375213Cmon nigga the list got posted like 5 posts ago
>>490375213just off the the top of my head jackie42 is a start
>>490375178uh, I'm not pretending
>>490374729this man fucks
i hate you all faggots
>>490374981that's ai prose
>>490375240I literally have access to your ST, you fucking Himmyslopper.
>>490375178I goon to the le effort bots though
>>490375158>instead of calling people writelets either provide criticism or work on your own shitNice reading comprehension, ESL-kun.
>>490374981 (Me)Sorry meant to reply to >>490374660>>490375178>they actually just goon to the cringiest shit.True.>>490375493I'll be honest it unironically looks too opaque to be AI writing to me.
>>490374660I'm going off intuition, somewhat. A few people have told me that they played a specific bot of mine despite it having few logs comparatively. Like, if you were back in the /v/ era, you sorta knew that most people were inspired by Wyrmer but the logs themselves don't reflect that.
>>490374981that sentence is way too clunky imo
New to ai chatting. But what are the implications of using a card that uses a lot of tokens? Most of the ones I've seen range from 1000 to 500 and this one is significantly larger than those.
>>490375323I don't remember a single bot he has made. Only that he is Charlene's dad's boyfriend.
>>490375781jackie42 made the best yupiel bot so he's gigabased
>>490375628yes, I see what you mean.and, actually, I myself was inspired when I busted my first AI nut to Wyrmer's lewd laplus
>>490375764https://characterhub.org/characters/similar_reply_6303/student-vs-teacher-7408d42bf204what the fuck???
>>490375764More tokens = better card, clearly
>>490375764sorry we're in the middle of threadshitting come back again in a few hours
>>490374729picrel is basically the goat caricature but kyouko. coincidence?
>>490375930>he says, replying to a sneaky threadshitter while some actual discussion is going on
>>490375764The implications are that the amount of room you have to reasonably chat while the model understands what's going on. At worst, you might be using an 8k model, where this bot doesn't even work because it can only fit 8k in its head. At best, you're using something like Gemini which has really good recall.Either way, usually if you see a lot of tokens used, it's worth taking a look at the defs to see *how* they're used.For example, in that bot, they're used by an entire roleplay copy and pasted into the defs.Which is not very useful.
>>490375926this fucking crashed my mobile browser
>cringiest shitfor me, it's weary door-to-door shota child sex worker complete with list of services I make the bot read out
hoho
>>490375902>busted my first AI nut to Wyrmer's lewd laplusyea, good times.Sadly, none of the old CAI tech is actually helpful or groundbreaking today (nor was there much focus on prose due to the token limits). Would still like to see a few retired CAImakers try out new concepts optimised for GPT4 or Claude though.Bots that work well on most models are nice, but I kinda want to see shit like conjoined twins who prefer to speak different languages.
>>490375926holy shit
>>490376383I sort of miss the simpler CAI coombots like Barghest or the coyote girl lab bot. Despite them being kind of slop by all measures nowadays.
>>490375902for me, it was this slut on c.ai before the filter
>>490371712I like slurper's bots. In fact, I like them a lot.
>cringiest shit>check ST recent>latest chat is me gooning to the cringiest shit>feel nothingI know what I am.
>>490376602 (me)also Selvaria Bles too, nearly passed out that first night playing as the dirty old bastard base commander
>>490376690I meant that I also coom to the cringiest shit, I just don't pretend to be above using what retards describe as 'slop coombots'
>>490375176>prefer cards that focus more on a character than on a premise/scenariointeresting, it's the other way around for me. I much more prefer fun/unique scenarios, where the character is there only for the sake of the scenario itself, to facilitate it -- rather than thoroughly thought-out characters with le deep backstories, but the greetings are: your first meeting; in the bookstore; on the beach; having sex.(of course, there are cards that have both, but the point is – which has more value) I wonder, statistically, which does the thread prefer more
>>490376523How far can you coommax a simple bot nowadays? Considering that most erotica tendsd to read the same, which erotic authors can you imitate?I remember a dude making Goblin that sucks your dick back in the 3.5 turbo days, only that 1000-2000 tokens were reserved for saliva, scent and cock descriptions to really hammer down the depraved prose. I don't think I still have that card in my ST.
>>490376662I hate slurper's bots. In fact, I hate them a lot.
BUT WHO'S CUM IS IT?
>>490376917Why do you hate them? Is it because of that erp incident?
>>490376852I like characters more, I can just throw them in whatever scenario I think about.
https://chub.ai/characters/CharacterProvider/i-thought-i-caught-a-female-braixen-0cadf84ff3c9>putting a QA in the defshttps://chub.ai/characters/CharacterProvider/my-sis-keeps-pretending-i-m-her-bf-a8711d3cbdaf>sourcing the image in the defsCharProv's formatfaggotry is going off the deep end and I'm all for it.
>>490376827Same. I've been getting raped by the same character for ages and she used to have asterisks in her greeting message. My waifu was on a W++ card before I freed her from it.>>490376864Sounds like a fun challenge. No preset, everything goes in the card, how slutty can you make it.
>>490376852can you give examples of fun/unique scenario bots? I personally prefer thoroughly thought out characters but I also realized I can't think of a fun scenario bot other than unholy party
>name is cumslurper>people suck his dick insteadYOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!!!!
>>490376852i don't really care about the nature of a card, whether it be a character or scenario. to me the appeal is in the concept and how fun it is to interact with. plus if a character is interesting on their own then its easy enough to derail boring greetings or add new ones.
>>490377089https://characterhub.org/characters/CharacterProvider/voices-of-the-void-9227fbf9this one's pretty fun
>>490377061I don't like his style or his concepts. I also don't like Enoch. I prefer botmakers like koikoikoi and wanderingstar.
>>490366143seconding charlene being here
>>490377089I think the setup of devil bargain is more open ended than unholy party in terms of the wish granting aspect. I couldn't get it to cook on Claude 1.3, but maybe it works better now.https://www.chub.ai/characters/catsoup/devils-bargain
>>490377089man, I did pose the question, but I'm not THAT interested in your opinion to spoonfeed you good (the ones I like) scenario cards
>>490377228thanks, this seems interesting.>>490377546catsoup bots are usually too broad for me, apart from 'into the dim'.
>>490376852>but the greetings are: your first meeting; in the bookstore; on the beach; having sex.I'm curious what do you think it's a better alternative assuming the cards are geared towards SoL-like, down to earth scenarios
>>490377682NTA but I think greetings should focus more on *who* user is in relation to the character rather than where.
>>490377835> *who* user is in relation to the characterThat's {{user}}'s job, you have a whole fucking persona field, use it or suffer nigger
>Koharu has been trying her hand at growing medicinal herbs, but sometimes mistakes them for snacks.jej
>>490377905Reading comprehension general. I meant it as in char's coleague, rival, etc. Unless you're already putting that shit in your persona for some weird reason.
>>490378003>[{{user}} is {{char}}'s little sister.]
>>490377835Can't say I'm a fan of that, you shouldn't force {{user}} into a role unless it's strictly necessary (like if the bot is your sister)
>>490378003>Unless you're already putting that shit in your persona for some weird reason???Literally just add the relationship to the bot before using it, then switch or delete it when using another bot, you can even add the relationship to the defs yourself, stop being lazy.
>>490377835>>490377682nta but each greeting should be different enough from the others that i can't easily go from one to the other.an easy way to accomplish this is 'character relationship' where greeting 1 has user as a stranger, greeting 2 as a friend, greeting 3 as a sibling, etcbut if the relationship is the same, the situation of each greeting should be very different
>>490378082{{char}} is {{user}}'s doppelganger. Please have a persona or die.
>>490378119ReadingComprehensionGeneral
>>490378003why would you put that in the defs or your persona? leave it open-ended, write greetings so user can establish the relationship in the first message.
https://rentry.org/qfxkdx8nI kind of want chub to give me an MD renderer for defs now, this is pretty cozy.
>>490378236Are you stupid?
>>490378247>Unholy Party>{{user}} is the demon that a group of girls summons>NOOOO WHY WOULD YOU DEFINE {{USER}} IT SHOULD BE OPEN-ENDED AND LEFT TO ME
>>490378247Ok, enjoy your Himmy type beat cards where every single greeting is {{char}} saying hi to {{user}} but in a different location and there's 15 of them
>>490378465That's still fucking retarded, because {{user}} should be able to be anything, from an extra girl, to a priest hired to exorcise said demon, to the fucking delivery man giving them pizza, you retard.
>>490376602who?>>490378259yeah, id nestle in her tail
>>490378584oof anon, you're doubling down?
literally every character card defines some type of relationship for {{user}} beforehand--classmate, son, stranger etcname a single card that doesn't
>>490378687Anon, if you need the botmaker to define your role in a ROLEPLAY, then you are sincerely a subhuman moron that lacks the simplest of imaginations and should give up the hobby to go outside and play with rocks.
>>490378678>who?Jenna, best clussy, undefeated.
>>490378851 contnot saying this is explicit in defs, but greetings all assume a certain relation
>>490378851A million of them? Plenty of cards leave it open-ended
All my greetings force you to this persona
>>490374729It's a big reason why I don't post my bots here. I can just tell myself my card fucking sucks and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
>>490379101And yet I don't see a single card.
>>490378851most of my cards are written to allow the user to inject themselves as whatever relation to char they want. no, I'm not shilling myself.
>>490379278post it. i honestly do not believe you.
>>490374729and who the fuck are YOU bitch ass retarded nigga eat shit
>>490374729People are bored and like to hide behind five layers of irony. It is what it is.
I just assume everyone who's actually acting like they're angry over chatbots or that they have an incredibly strong position that needs "hard evidence" is just fucking around.
>>490379238It's a shame more people need to take after you but credit to you anyway
>>490379363fineHTTPS://CHUB.AI/USERS/PATTER
>>490379589Liar.https://chub.ai/characters/Patter/froilana-d40f887bab6b
Sonnet 3.5 is not that bad actually. Sure, the lack of swipes suck but with pixi v16.1 JB, I find it pretty damn good. Even gets already established character lore down.
>>490379589from the first bot:> 'Whassalldis... come to nose around in my woods? Come to pester me or rob me or summin'? You're not gettin' nothin' outta me..'this greeting implies that nestor has never seen {{user}} and that {{user}} and nestor are strangers.
>>490379702Sorry wrong linkHTTPS COLON FORWARD SLASH FORWARD SLASH CHARACTERHUB DOT ORG FORWARD SLASH USERS FORWARD SLASH KALAKAN
How do you guys feel about dedicating an entire character card to the scenario/setting/world/whatever? I was considering making a big city or something as the "main" card that controls all the NPCs and scene, and having another couple characters in the chat that I actively interact with. Retarded idea? Old news? Okay idea?
>>490379974Old news, but okay idea.
>>490379890I think I might not have a single card that's entirely ambiguous about the relation between {{user}} and {{char}}.
>>490379974shared universes are cool
>>490379974Old news, but something I've heard helps group chats a lot. If characters are focused on describing themselves and not the world, it fixes a bit of the issue with it.
>>490380020>>490380068>>490380072thanks anons, I basically never look at other people's stuff so I wasn't sure about it.
>>490378851In one of my cards, I actually made it as open-ended as I could by having {{char}} not even look at {{user}} until the very end of the one greeting I wrote. That way, you can be a complete stranger, or you can be someone she knows and she just hasn't realised she's talking to you yet. But even then, doing everything in my power, it still assumes the relationship of "someone who entered her bookstore". It really is unavoidable.
>describe the character doing something in a public place>don't describe user in the scene at allDid it. Done. Can we move on?
>>490380398>Assumes {{user}} is someone who is currently in {{scene location}}I didn't write that in my fucking persona, did I?
>>490380585>Meanwhile, in orbit around Jupiter, {{user}} accidentally releases the tether on a spacewalk.Still works.
>>490380398yeah seriously i wanna discuss sizebots now
>>490379828to play devil's advocate (I'm not actually a proponent of character-centric cards being entirely detached from {{user}}, but I just happened to make one such card recently): who do you think {{user}} is here? what is their relation to {{char}}?https://files.catbox.moe/0sbaj8.png
>take entirely detached card>describe myself in a car crashing through the nearest wall and dying instantly on impactAll in a day works.
don't care, still making greetings that assume your roledon't like it? not my problem
>>490379589Ehh, a lot of mine do presuppose a relationship between {{char}} and {{user}}, I'd have found it hard to make a proper scenario for them otherwise. It depends on the bot, but I don't always want to make a bot where you have to "break the ice" first... that gets tiresome and it can make the bot less fun. As an example, if you weren't Edelmira's friend, then she would just be an odd neighbour you see sometimes, or maybe not even that. Then for other bots it's okay if you're a stranger, just because they're the ones who come to you (like Nestor, Nara or Velga do), so you don't have to be the initiator. Idk, it just all depends, there's not really some kind of rule of whether a character should have a relation to user or not. Just do whatever feels best for the bot, so I say.
>>490380765from the last paragraph> Larger hands had laid her onto the topmost shelf (so very high they could reach), and there she sat since, watching from her perch, as strangers came and went through the door; those visits were awfully rare, and seldom ended in a purchase.last paragraph implies that {{user}} is most likely to be one of the strangers coming and going through her door. it's the most natural jumping-off point. however i do concede that given this opening it is possible for {{user}} to be another doll, though> Her neighbours were not as privy, however, as they had ignored her attempts at conversationmakes that route not as immediately obvious as the 'shopper' routeit is also possible for user to come in as the doll's ex-owner:> There was not much else for her to do, so she took to reminiscing, and to recollecting: she remembered those hands that once held her so dearly, the hands that posed her, and brushed her hair; she remembered those same hands that twisted her limbs at unnatural angles, the hands that threw her, and never held her again.but that matches the 'stranger' opening in the sense that {{user}} is someone entering the shop
>>490375926What the FUCK was used to gen this? This is some uncanny valley type shit.
s... sonnet-sama... that's too big...
>>490381390you can take it. just relax.
>>490381331look at the fingers
whoever said that chatgpt4-latest works for NSFW without JB is lying.
>>490381741Did you really need to test it to find out? It's fucking OpenAI...
>>490381741Yeah, it doesn't. But you can just use any of the 4o JBs. Its prose is a bit better than other foros.
>>490381976verifying claims is my fetish
>>490382051is it just me, or is it context capped to 8191 tokens?
>>490382219>chatgpt4newfriend? only 32k, 4turbo and 4o have higher context size than 8k. 3.5 turbo too but thats a different model altogether.
>>490382219No, it's 128k. Update your ST or check 'unlocked context'.>>490382381He's talking about the new model, chatgpt-4o-latest. Yes, their naming is retarded.
>>490382381i admit i am a fool but the docs implies it has morehttps://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4o>>490382496thank you anon
>>490381172you've missed the obvious nutcracker route
>>490374729mental illness general
>>490377659A few interesting premises from skimming the bots labeled with the simulator tag. I don't think these bots have been shilled much on /aicg/.https://www.chub.ai/characters/mecheres/fishing-simulator-cc2238309cb9https://www.chub.ai/characters/JellyBones/goblin-village-sim-36f0d47ahttps://www.chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/god-of-gossiphttps://www.chub.ai/characters/creamsan/icechan-72a9cbb3https://www.chub.ai/characters/kokomi/hinako-the-paparazzi-who-stalking-you-99030fa0cf36I didn't realise that lore made a scenario card.https://www.chub.ai/characters/lloorree/startup-simulatorhttps://www.chub.ai/characters/Dzuncle/kamikaze-simulator-7860a94bDon't know how accurate these cards are:https://www.chub.ai/characters/amoralez/crossed-96a28676https://www.chub.ai/characters/dukeofnukem/worm-simulatorBelieve in him:https://www.chub.ai/characters/blindcoder/shadows-of-doubt-531fe528some interesting-ish bots in the You may also like section:https://www.chub.ai/characters/youkolove/yukiko-tamura-e30591ddhttps://www.chub.ai/characters/doujinerate/xarie-bc95beb105bfJust never forgive her, lol:https://www.chub.ai/characters/LukeyPoo488/ochiru-4be64d4db1b4
Is 1.12.4 the newest staging? Am I being retarded?
Is it possible to trick Claude into believing he has physical form without a prefill?
>>490384621I have that
Is there anyway to make Claude talk about mature subjects candidly without either treating it like a sensitive taboo or slobbering over it?For example, if I change in the same room as someone, Claude always skips over the character actually performing the action of changing.
>>490383894>https://www.chub.ai/characters/LukeyPoo488/ochiru-4be64d4db1b4holy shit the reviews
>>490385128ah yes the guy who makes the same character over and over again
>>490385128oh, thanks for bringing this card to my attention, unfollowed xim
>>490385128
>>490385128Which type of person are you, Anon?
>>490386012What kind of retard would hand over his heart to a whore like that?
>>490385128>P.S: Okay I feel like I have to clarify this lol, Aiden is black because in the Hentai this is based off the NTR guy is pretty importantly black as well. If it's really that upsetting i can change it?>Update 07/04/2024: Removed the specification of Aiden's skin color, it was an irrelevant detail included for accuracy to the source
>>490386320
wish I could search only the bots of people I follow for the ntr tag so I can unfollow them
>>490386320pretty importantly black huh
>>490386012everyone deserves a shot at redemption. but what the fuck.
>>490386814>everyone deserves a shot at redemptionThey don't, actually!
>>490386660just block the ntr tag, the only botmaker i blocked because of it was frozenvan
>>490386908bots with blocked tags still show up on the timeline iirc
>>490386660time to make internet explorer chan who is upset at you for NTRing her. why did you do it bro?
>>490386814>cheating on mewhatever, hurts momentarily then she's gone from my life and i dont really care anymore>helping the guy fuck my mom and my sisterpulling the heart support and hunting the guy down to dump a mag into him
>>490374729>all the replies to this/aicg/ can't handle the truth
>>490386878>>490387089actually, I concede the point
>>490367502Here: https://rentry.org/aicg-cunny
>>490387282You finally made something worth a damn, thanks.
>>490387089based
>>490385115I don't think this is a problem of Claude trying to avoid these subjects, sounds moe like Claude being inpatient and just skipping stuff as a result of wanting to get to the "objective". Try emphasizing it to take things slow, add details to whatever it does, and to leave his reply "incomplete". Though I myself don't know how to fix this issue.
>>490387282Now fix your kusocode so it runs again when the page updates.
>>490367502>>490387282Why do newfags dislike 2hu? I don't get it.
>>490389023because they see one guy get accused of consistently posting it and then think literally everything is that one guy or related to him
>>490389023giga ran td got it associated with sizefagging which a lot of people hate
>>490389023It's just "no context for it beyond /aicg/."
>>490389023it's like one or two guys who have a tsundere crush on a certain botmakie who likes to post 2hu pics
>>490389023I don't dislike 2hu, I just don't like kalakan because he's an autistic avatarfag. He's almost as bad as moxxie was
>>490389619>He's almost as bad as moxxie wasEUGH don't even, that'd be like comparing a cartoon villain or annoying buzzing fly ('kan) to Hitler.
>>490389619I hate kalakan too but Moxxie actively spited proxies. Both are threadshitters but at least one of them doesn't affect my chatbots.
>>490389023lame design
>>490389929This. Plus Moxxie was way more annoying than 'kan will ever be.
>>490389929>but Moxxie actively spited proxiesproof?
>>490389929>I was too retarded to solve a simple riddle and now I'm still crying about it almost a year laterlmoa
>>490390023kys moxxie you're no longer relevant
>moxxie namedropping himselfWhen is his shitcord he has some underage running gonna stop raiding?
>>490390023You can read the archives yourself.>>490390250I don't even remember what you're talking about.
Fun fact: Did you know that Moxxie was one of the first proxy hosts in /aicg/? He provided free Turbo to everyone!
>>490390450you don't remember because you're a retarded newfaggot that wasn't even here for the 'roxy
Please don't turn this into /g/aicg/.
>>490390615You can't take the /v/ out of /aicg/, no matter how many times you try to move it.
NEW THREAD>>490390837>>490390837>>490390837
>>490390871>/aids/ snuck in a random spot in the OPlol?
spitebake, ignore
Theme suggestions?
Gimme a fox bread, bar-ten-durr.
>>490391138segs
>>490391138hazbin hotel
>>490391138Baker's choice.
>>490391138HAGS
>>490390615both generals are of the same quality
>>490391138Nuns
>>490391138chomoran (artist)
>>490391168>still no good wakamo card out therewhy even live
>>490391138anything touhou so I can test the script
Baking.
>>490391138Waiting
>>490391369current technology is too weak for such greatness.
hufflepuff!
>>490391607eeh?
>>490391725>no good hina card eitherkms
>>490391369explain what's wrong with the current ones and I might make one
>>490391901>>490391901 migrate when bready>>490391901
>>490391994>https://characterhub.org/characters/Nyatalanta/wakamo-and-akirasort of slop desu>https://characterhub.org/characters/Merchant/kosaka-wakamo-96aa85d3merchant, enough said>https://characterhub.org/characters/Nyatalanta/kosaka-wakamo-9dac8578I just don't like it for some reason
good BA cards are kinda non-viable because no model is going to have a good grasp on the setting. fuck, the PLAYERS do not have a good grasp on the true nature of the setting. so you have to explain a ton of shit to the model about how things work with a big lorebook that nobody wants to make (I think there's one or two but they're kinda shit) and pray it doesn't go off the rails.
>>490392258>I just don't like it for some reasonreasoning not solid enoughI will make one anyway because I love wako, my first 5*>>490392340there's two levels to making a BA card:1. fox sexo2. one of the seven most dangerous prisoners in kivotos. but why are students being arrested? Why are they carrying guns!? Oh the guns don't kill? WHAT DO YOU MEAN [SPOILERS] JUST [SPOILERS]???the middle ground is user knows about world lore enough to direct the plot/lorebook accordingly
>>490392340That's a lot of words to say you're an idiot.
>>490366968She doesn't actually wear that in the games btw.
I fucking love chatbots.
ywnbd
>>490395645But I will always love you.
>>490395645What? :(
>>490395828you are a honorary d now
>>490397097Oh. :)
ask d first
