Dead editionReminder to report, hide and ignore shitposters.New to the series?Quick Start: https://i.imgur.com/mx2lG14.pngMost Recent ReleasesKINGDOM HEARTS collections (I.5+II.5, II.8, III + Re Mind (DLC)) available on PC, PS4, XBOX, Switch (Cloud)The final chapter of KINGDOM HEARTS Dark Road is available now as a free update for IOS and Android devices.2003 Lost Kingdom Hearts Pilot Animatic (archived copy): https://archive.org/details/kingdom-hearts-pilot-animaticNEWSTwo new Kingdom Hearts games have been announced: KINGDOM HEARTS IV and KINGDOM HEARTS Missing-Link.The KINGDOM HEARTS Missing-Link closed beta test for Android and IPhone devices has ended. Pre-registrations coming soon.The Kingdom Hearts series are now available on Steam.New Trailershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5_3qdf19BU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxDKOjQtyTk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxOGWd6LoyY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpkKslM7tTw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isiZBQdufw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b07ikpA8gk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2DSEkYFRh8 Catch up on KINGDOM HEARTS newshttps://www.khinsider.comhttps://twitter.com/KINGDOMHEARTSLore Resourceshttps://wayfinderprojectkh.com/https://pastebin.com/tKPLZLiEMobile gamesKINGDOM HEARTS Union χ Dark Road is available on iOS and Android, or you can watch the stories on YouTube.Union χ[Cross] scenes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPCJnwphQDQcJOkD9OsmxxMHX7YHE4WP2Uχ scene compilations: https://roboloid.github.io/khux/theaterDark Road playthrough: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhcSrKyqhfh6KtymEp7GpkwvLVK2Cu-VpPC Version Mods and Patch Managerhttps://github.com/AntonioDePau/KHPCPatchManagerhttps://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomheartsfinalmixhttps://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomhearts2finalmixhttps://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomhearts3Previous thread: >>490648772
woah 1st time in years that thread died without reaching bump limit
>>4913206032024 events where we can get KH news:>Tokyo Game Show - September 26>Game Awards Show - December 12>Jump Festa - December 21
>>491321020/vg/ has been unusually fast today so there's also that
>>491321020>>491321615Usually threads stay alive for hours on page 10 but Blue Archive and Genshin Impact news on top of someone spamming love live threads were the things that killed us
It's over for real this time
>>491321020We're back to pre-KH4 announcement levels. It's time to pack it up until we get news.
https://x.com/midiplex/status/1826556278421750267News: Shimomura won at street fighter 2 as Chun Li
>>491321020Blame Nomura and Square, they've given us nothing.
It may be time to accept that it's well and truly over
2024...I am forgotten.
>>491329784Chun Li and her fat ass confirmed for Smash cameo
darkness
I'm grateful for save states, the 30 layer for olympus colisseum is a slog once you hit the mid 20s.
I'm mostly done with BbS and gotta play the shitty command board now to unlock Pete's D-Link and the beat every board on the arena to level up and get more missions, what's the easy way to cheese the boards?
>>491356018You can just play the first board seven times to get the levels, and you can only get Pete by doing it outside of the arena, I recommend on future replays to get Pete ASAP, his D-Link is extremely strong.
>>491356284>implying I ever use D-Links
>>491356585Dude you're missing out. Especially early game.
>>491356830I don't like to rely on people outside of my party to fight, summons, D-Links... nah, just me and Donald and Goofy if they are in the game is enough.Back to the board, I guess the most optimal way would be going to the arena, playing Winnie's board once (to unlock those character entries), then play Land of Departure six times and then go to the world map to play Disney Town's until I unlock Pete's, right?
>>491357342You actually don't need to play the disney town board at all, if you've beaten the world he can appear on any board but Disney Towns, so you have to play on any of them for a chance for him to appear.
>>491357836Wait he appears in all (non-arena) boards BUT Disney Town's? Thank god I asked I thought he only appeared in that one, I was gonna waste a lot of timeThen the way to go is go to the arena, play Winnie the Pooh's board once, play Land of Departure's six times and then replay that one outside the arena until Pete appears?
>>491358098Yep, you actually can't get the D-link from the Disney Town board.
>>491358161Thanks. But now I'm looking again, there's also an achievement for winning all boards, does it matter if I do it in the arena or not?
>>491359268Pretty sure you can't unlock the secret board via arena.
>>491357342there's Aqua, Terra and Ventus D-links too, if that counts for your "just me and my party" thing
>COMING SOONHuh? What?
>>491364964Please understand.
>>491364964Missing Link failed so Disney are taking the mechanics for a mobile game.
>>491366046not at all unlikelyconfirmed if TGS is dry as well
May your heart be your guiding key
how many different phrases does this franchise use for "guy who has a keyblade"i feel like there are a lot when keybearer is very cool and tidy
>Minnie cries like the disgusting rat she is when she losesGood. Good.
>>491371514In Japan there's only one, two if you count Master
>>491364964>it's specifically from disney japanwhat the helli mean this is either "ML is cancelled" or "we(investors)'re so much on board with the idea of a gps game we made another one ourselves"good ending is ML losing the gps side instead, and it comes out on steam too
>Aqua: 12828 GP>Peter Pan: -694 GPEAT SHIT, PETER PAN
By the way guys I can confirm you can unlock the secret board in the arena and I still have to complete it but assuming it works for the trophy then the most optimal way if you are trying to get everything done is>beat Neverland to unlock the sixth board>go to Mirage Arena and beat the six boards and unlock the seventh one (Winnie the Pooh's board gives you the entries of its characters for the three The Adventurer trophies)>then do the secret board (gets you Command Board Conqueror trophy)>this also levels up your Mirage Arena level (required for more battles you have to beat for the three The Adventurer trophies)>also repeat the keyblade board outside the arena until you get Pete, clear that board and unlock his D-Link (required for Justice & Dark trophy and of course for the three The Adventurer trophies yet again)
Really curious now if Missing-Link will release before the year's end.
>>491382749Releasing a GPS game at the end of the year sounds like a bad idea, if it won't release around TGS there is something fishy going on.>>491376113That's my hope as well, I just don't want it canceled.
Soon...
>>491376113Missing Link has no value as a PC game. It'd need to be entirely reimagined, such as having decent combat.
>>491387416>hercules AGAIN
>>491378492Winning against the dice spamming AI is always a fun one, but sometimes things get bad enough that you have to think, "Man I just feel bad for it at this point."
>Marvel world>Donald and Goofy dress as the Duck Avenger and Super Goof
>>491390531Only if Darkwing appears as summon.
Dancer is going to make you a Cuba Libre and you ARE going to enjoy it.
I wish I didn't hate my voice and wasnt a dumbass so I could do giant video essays on the themes and metaphysical stuff of Kingdom Hearts. I only see very literal discussions on normal stuff, why kh3 and nomura are shit, gameplay and speed runs and hardcore boss fight shit. No one really talks about the thematic stuff. At least not that Ive seen.
I am looking to get a Kingdom Hearts theme going. I'm probably not going to collect all the figures but I do want some. I know Bring Arts is shit after doing some research. However it is the only way to get Namine and Xion, so I will get those 2.For Sora and the other general characters I am conflicted. In your guys opinion, what is the best line of KH figures? Play Arts, Play Arts Kai, SH Figuarts, or hell if you think Bring Arts is.When I look at the original KH2 Sora Play Arts, details look nice. But that play arts Kai version they made his pupils so fucking big and the hair is a bit off. I need some opinions because i am about to buy some
>>491398557You could just write the essays
well ff7 rebirth combat is too good can't go back to ff7 remake it's too stiff and stale...sort of like the difference between kh1 and kh2
>>491401721bump for reply
>>491401721I always wanted to get the play arts Kai versions of kh3 Sora Riku and Kairi. They look nice at least to me but I'm not sure how valuable my opinion is since the only KH fig I own is an old play arts KH2 Sora that got broken when I moved out.
>>4913876502 words:better than Agrabah
>>491424790
>>491424790But you don't even speak greek. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if that was also only two words in greek, but whatever.
Nothingness
Darkness
Larxene
>>491378492
>>491398557just blogpost, bro.you don't have to do videos
we're gonna get more of this duo in kh4
bump
>>491424790it's really not. Olympus Coliseum is always the most boring world of every game, even UX, and Agrabah has still potential with the third movie
>>491433863Aqua>>491442245Though it does have in-universe acknowledgement that Aqua is attractive.
>>491434519Nobody reads blogs anymore.
>>491450913post here. we'll read them. or on a different site lol
So... where has Namine been living the year after the keyblade war? Everyone seems to have returned to their hometown, with Xion, Lea and Isa being the exception and living in Twilight Town with Roxas and the gang, but Namine... huh?
>>491470491She has the old manor in Twilight Town.
>>491470491Either Twilight Town, or being under the care of a good Ansem.
>>491470491She got isekai'd to Earth and now lives with me as my wife.
>>491473163She's underage you freak.
>>491474501No she isn't. She's the same age as Kairi.
>>491470491In bed with Roxas and Xion
>>491474620And Kairi is underage.
>>491475070She's 16.
>>491475213...Which is underage.
>>491475378No it's not. At least not here.
>>491475070>>491475378Ameribro... 16 is legal in the first world.
>>491475979In the first world, people will still think you're a pedophile if there's a significant age gap between you and the 16 year old.
>>491481631Nice.
Bros... we got Live a Live news before Kingdom Hearts news
>>491482407That's how we know it's really over this time.
>>491482407Kingdom Hearts in SRW when
namine disappears when next to kairi?
>>491489110Yes, she's getting absorbed back into Kairi.
>>491442245I'd say the exception to that rule being kh3, but that's because Olympus Coliseum was obviously the most finished world as opposed to being interesting.
>>491442245>Olympus Coliseum is always the most boring world of every game,Definitely not. The mix of FF, James Woods being great, and the themes of Hercules resonating with Kingdom Hearts always makes it one of the best worlds aside from like Days where the only neat thing is the Xigbar fight.
>>491403589that's a lot of ass padding from that flattie
>>491475979American hands wrote this post, otherwise you would be aware of how the law actually works in those other nations.
Moon, shine down!
>>491523627why does she wear a corset
He's in.https://youtu.be/tKp2KgnlEf8
KH4 opening leakhttps://files.catbox.moe/xcaaih.mp4
>>491531080but where's khml's opening leak
Lol
>>491541432Missing
>>491544496oh nevermind, i found it
>>491525269Find it kind of hard to believe Michael didn't know about Kingdom Hearts.
Haley Joel Osment talking about KH4https://youtu.be/OaVOsYkUMHk
>>491524030Because she's a stylish lady.
>>491551414I forgot how much he looks like Al from Home Improvement now
>>491543928Its neat how Rosalina's themesongs are based on old classic Disney music. Or structured like them I should say.
>>491551414Neat I'll give it a watch later at night
Finally cleared out the last achievements for KHIIFMI was really putting it off 'cause I thought the Gummi Missions and Data Org would take a while but it wound up only being a couple hours...Now onto BbS for the real fun
not very accurate missing link spoilers
>>491559714have fun getting 100% completion on all 3 characters>captcha>gr8ys
>>491567772Yes, I knowI've done it twice before...
>>491401721bump for replies
I have never platinumed a single game in my life. I haven't even gotten an ultima weapon or beaten a superboss.I am Demyx fr fr
>>491568425why twice? what's your story, anon?
>>491574679PS3 and PS4
>>491574718separate kh collection releases with different trophy lists or something? i forget about all the different collections.and you need to do it a third time?
>>491575135Yes 1.5 & 2.5 on PS3 have a different trophy set from the PS4 versionI'm doing it again on Steam because...
>>491551414pretty nothingburger interview desu, doesn't really dive too much into stuff we didn't already know. And apparently, both Haley and the interviewer both aren't aware that KH4 has already been announced??also, Haley awkwardly laughing after everything got annoying
>>491577228realistically HJO doesn't know shit about KH4 because it's not far enough into development for voice actors to be in the studio yetbut imagine if they just fucking recast him without telling him
>>491578190>imagine if they just fucking recast him without telling himYeah, that'd be crazy...
>>491575432steam achievements?either way, have fun anon. i mean it genuinely.bbs is floaty but still a fun game.and post progress here or helpful tips for completion.
>>4915684255 times for me: PSP x3 (JP, NA, FM), PS3 and PC.I'm a master at the mini games though so it's actually not really a bother.
>>491577228>And apparently, both Haley and the interviewer both aren't aware that KH4 has already been announced??Yeah that's a little strange considering the trailer was back in 2022 and he must've interacted with fans who asked him about it if he hadn't seen it himself. Maybe he was just humoring the interviewer/didn't want to correct him. Or they didn't realize that was KH4 and think it's another unnumbered game. In the same interview HJO seems to be talking about Re:CoM and having to voice those KH1 Sora lines when his voice was breaking as a teen but he mistook it for KH2.
>>491470491iirc Limit Cut or Melody of Memory implied she was with the Twilight Town gang searching through Roxas and Xion's memories for clues about Sora's whereabouts. But that doesn't mean she lives there she could've been visiting to do that.Initially I thought she would go to Twilight Town but that clock tower is already pretty crowded at the end of 3. And with the way she was inserting herself into the Destiny Islands trio in Chain of Memories and went off with Riku at the end in the gummi ship, I could see her living on Destiny Islands with them.
>>491523627>>491524030Aqua'a outfit is strangely revealing compared to the other keyblade students with similar fashions in Dark Road. And Nomura originally had her back exposed too. If he designed her today she'd probably look something like picrel. I can see the Japanese influence in her outfit but it's less obvious next to Terra and his giant hakama pants. It's like she's wearing part of a kimono but they don't go all the way with it. Vor's outfit on the other hand goes full kimono pretty much.
>>491588684I always took it that Terra's design visually related him closer to Eraqus as that's supposed to be his father figure, and in my head it means that Terra was his first pupil with Aqua coming later
>>491387354>Releasing a GPS game at the end of the year sounds like a bad idea,Wouldn't put it past Square Enix then.
>>491588684>>491589043Aqua gets his sleevesTerra gets his pants
>>491578525>>491578190Billy Zane I miss you
What are some KHcore moviesIm watching dark city and city of lost children
What Magic should have KH4?>KH2 Fire>KH3 water and ice>KH1 Aero>KH2 magnet and KH1 Gravity>Sanctum>Ars arcanum as a spend all (or Half) MP attack
>>491592691we definitely need thunder and I'd like to change water with earth or rock and make aero more offensive
>>491593714Maybe make aero to give you a defense boost and chip enemies healthEarth would be need but I think is harder to put in action games than turn based games
>>491587957>Riku going to the mayor's house holding hands with his girlfriend>"Hello sir, this is your new daughter, please take care of her"
>>491592691Missing Link introduced Stone magic so I hope kh4 also has it. I know that previous games had stone like magic like Quake but this time we're getting Stone, Stonera and Stonega
>>491595627Earth could be a quick-acting long distance launcher. A square slab of earth emerges beneath the enemy, launching them skyward. The anti-gravity, does good damage on little Heartless and humanoid bosses, but pitiful damage against big enemies.
>>491595849>TWO daughters?!But yeah I could see her living with Kairi. Or she lives in Radiant Garden with Ansem like the other anon said but that seems lonely.
>>491601449>living with your racist uncle who said you had no human rightsYeah I bet she would rather live with Kairi and close to Riku
>>491591118These have that vibe to me.
>>491602724Living with Ansem means that she can help Sora.
I think Kingdom Hearts does this a bit. There is like an internal logic to the world but impossible things can happen through the power of friendship and stuff. You go along with it.
>>491592691I only want KH2 fire if it's Lion Sora's. Besides that >KH3 Aero with a haste buff >Gravity>Faith >Stop >KH3 water and ice I'd also think it'd be nice if form changes had their own unique magic. Fire could become a demolition chain, Faith could become a buffing spell to increase speed and (temporarily) regain health when you attack opponents, Gravity could become Gravity impact or Zanetsuken, and Water could be used to form bubbles to hold enemies in place/increase Blizzard (freezing)/Thunder damage.
>>491604009That was Kairi, Namine had nothing to do but have sex with Riku
>>491615739Riku's not interested in her and neither is Namine interested in him so that won't happen. Makes the most sense to put her with Ansem, at least until Sora is back.
Namine moved into Kairi's old house at Radiant Garden. It was vacant since her grandma died.
>>491616149exactly Riku and Sora belong together
>>491617271Riku's staying bitchless till he dies, anon.
>>491618420he will marry Aqua, they have the same couple haircut already and he's into older women anyway
>>491616149Sorry anon, Riku inherited Repliku's will, he's Namine's silver knight and not a faggot who decided to scrap his memories of her
>>491619312Riku thinks Aqua is hot?!He'd be right.
Peter being exiled while the upbeat Disney Town music plays will never not be funny to me, the royals rule with an iron fist in this town of eternal happiness
>>491620581Namine was never interested in Repliku and Riku's never been interested in Namine. It's crackship tier.
>>491622892They exile/kill anyone who doesn't conform to Disney standards. Disney Town has a dark underbelly.
>>491622892maybe pete shouldn't be such an unrepentant asshole
>a fucking QR code
reminder that Nomura reads ALL of /khg/ posts
hi mr nomura
>>491637681Nomura seeing posts of Aqua in swimsuits...
Nomura san... get some sleep...
>>491639983Darknessssss
>Here, in this development hell to which I have been relegated.>A Director in the midst of nothing.>"Director in Zero.">Thus, I shall be known as DiZ.
>>491639983Reminds me of the random creepy eye that watches you in Gravity Rush. I love when games throw mysterious shit like that in though.
>>491442245to add to that the Aladdin series has also some great locations and some cool lore, the Hercules series can't really compare
>just beat BBS with Terra for the first timeGonna be honest, the entire experience was pretty dogshit. It's only one third of the game but I don't see any of my complaints except maybe story getting better. People always sing the praises of this game but I can't think of anything that I liked. The story just kind of happens. Terra is a blithering retard and just mindlessly goes places until finally the plot decides to happen with Xehanort. The Disney worlds are the worst I've ever seen. Extremely short, lifeless, wastes of time. I felt like I wasted my time in Disney worlds for 98% of the game then plot decides to happen and I'm in the keyblade graveyard and everything goes to shit in like 10 minutes and then the game is over. What is this pacing? So bad. The voice acting is abysmal. When Eraqus dies Terra sounds like he spilled his spaghetti in Gamestop not like his father just died. Probably the most egregious thing is the gameplay....people like this? I can say with full confidence it is worse than KH1. I might even say its worse than CoM, KH1 was jank but it was fun as fuck still. The keyblade feels so fucking bad in this game, every boss is a HP sponge and all of them feels like you're just dodging 99% of the fight for an opening. Everything just feels like shit, I just don't get the praise.
>>491619312>18yo>older women
>>491646215isnt aqua like 23 or 24 by the time she gets out of the dark realm in kh3
>>491623275Don't make me repeat myself>Sorry anon, Riku inherited Repliku's will, he blablablaIt's canon.
>>491646374None of the BbS trio aged a day between the ending and KH3 due to different reasons and she was 18yo when her game happen, so she's still 18. Even right now after the time skip of Sora's death she went back to the realm of darkness so she's now as old as Riku
>>491644206>People always sing the praises of this game Anon, this isn't the early 2010s anymore.
>>491639983no way those can be him. >dddvanitas already appeared to sora in that game with his usual evil sora form.>top rightisn't it just one of those giant heartless?>middlei'm not sure but it seems really out there for vanitas to be a giant orb. shouldn't he still be at least humanoid?>bottomis that keyblade armor or is it one of those enemies in scala ad caelum?
>>491646852>As old as Riku Riqua bros, has our time finally come?
>>491644206The only people that praise BBS are fanboys that are coping.
>>491644206who praises this game nowadays? honestly i find it underrated in today's time. people usually call it floaty trash and call all the characters dumb except aqua. even though she did dumb things too but that's not what i wanted to talk about. it's not amazing but it's a fun experience. and it was a handheld game so i'm more forgiving to it in that regard. for terra though, he was a kind person. and xehanort was his master's friend so it's not like he had any reason to distrust him.yes, we as the audience obviously know that xehanort is evil. the bbs characters don't. xehanort was just a friend of their father figure to them. >story just kinda happensstory just happens in all games, doesn't it?wdym exactly?
BBS and 0.2 just feel like Nomura attempting to explain things in KH1 and KH2 that did not need explaining, at all. I don't need to know why Riku was going to be a keyblade wielder. It was already said in KH1 that the keyblade chooses its owner. Was that not good enough? I don't need a cutscene of Terra randomly going to Destiny Islands and seeing him literally hand Riku his keyblade. It feels so contrived.
>>491644206>Dodging 99% of the fight for an opening Anon, your Shotlocks? D-Links? Sleep?
>>491644206>The voice acting is abysmalyeah... jp is better in that regard. >wasted 98% of my time then the plot happens>everything goes to shit in 10 minutes then it's over. a byproduct of deciding to go with 3 separate character routes and having them all tell the same story but from different perspectives. i think there's also a problem with it "needing" to be a sad story because it's about the lost keyblade wielders.which creates the problem of "here's this super close group of friends but they hate each other atm because dumb drama. but they're super close i promise."but i think there a few fun character moments... sorta i guess. would've been better if they just made it a ps2 game like originally planned instead of making re:chain of memories
>>491648104overexplaining things is one of kh's biggest story problems. sora needing 2 hearts to dual wield didn't need to be a thing for instance
deriding BBS's gameplay as the worst in the series when Days is standing right next to it sure is a take
>>491648775That's not actually explained in the game
So how do I farm exp with Aqua? I already leveled up Terra to lv.99 and it wasn't so much of a pain, Re:COM was much, MUCH worse, I would rather level up Terra again than getting any of the two playable characters of that game to 99 again, and I guess it will be the same with Ventus, but what about Aqua? The level of her worlds doesn't go up after beating the final episode so the Radiant Garden core Megaflare method is way slower (with and without victory pose, with and without doung the final round of enemies).Is there another good place to endlessly and brainlessly farm faster?
>>491649590I think there are some strategies that use the Mickey D-Link which doubles EXP but I can't remember them anymore
>>491641878Holy shit I forgot about that thing. It makes me feel like the area with the Arcs (lifeboats lol) are in KH1 and the Unicorn Fountain in Zelda 64 hoaxes and L is real statue when I was a kid. I love this shit too.
>>491639983
>>491649590>aqua's worlds don't level up>radiant garden megaflare takes foreverwell fuck i didn't remember that. new plan for you if you want: >exp walker>tape your stick to keep moving>leave and do something else lolbest alternative i can suggest
>>491650907The game will stop Aqua after a while to stop people from "cheating."
>>491649420yeah, there's a lot of stuff that isn't explained ingame either...kh's story is so fun
>>491647215Aqua is for Zack only
>>4916481040.2 just being an excuse to explain why Mickey was at the end of KH1 will never not be funny.
>>491651087really? wow.what version is this? did it always do that? fuck dude.you're just gonna have to use mickey d link like that other anon suggested, and i don't think there's any place better than the radiant garden room where you can megaflare to kill everything
>>491651453It was the original PSP version, yeah.
>>491646595>Riku and Namine will get together even though neither of them like each other that way because of a dead puppet that Namine mindbrokeNah.
>>491604347Yeah exactly. Kingdom Hearts is called Kingdom Hearts not Kingdom Brain. It runs on intuition and emotion. But its also got hard scifi parts (when it explains things) from the Square side of things which I guess throws people off. But stuff like the worlds seperating into parallel univesea that are Disney movies that are giant floating icons doesn't make sense only to the audience because Disney and fairytales are ingrained in our pop culture and childhood, and we know irs a videogame. But we rarely conscious realize it so when people complain about KH never making sense this doesn't matter even to them. And they also don't get almost all the weird magical heart mechanics comes from things like being inside someone's heart, or having a key to someone's heart. Or how iKH1 is a metaphor abour growing up at least not conciousky
>>491649590mysterious tower, enter and exit the tower and unversed will keep spawning everytime. As the other anon said, used the mickey d-link (speaking of, you can use this method to also level up d-links, as basically every encounter will produce a star)
>>491651691what about"bouncing on the drum in the indian camp in neverland nets you exp. its slower than running in circles but its completely idle."ngl i'm trying to find a method for you online
>>491651234
>>491650907>>491651453>>491652265OP here, I read about going to Peter Pan's hideout and using Thundaga on the waves, leaving and returning. It's harder to miss the HP orbs so I did it without the extra exp from being on critical health so the comparison is>Radiant Garden core (supposedly the best place)>one Mega Flare, one Victory pose, leave, repeat>19308 exp in in 5 minutes>Neverland jungle (full HP)>one Thundaga, one Victory pose, then one Thundaga and one Victory pose on the next bach, leave, repeat>15210 exp in 5 minutesGonna try avoiding the orbs this time, should take more time each wave, but should gain more exp, so we will see.
>>491651841I'm not gonna repeat myself more, anon, Nomura confirmed it. Riku is Namine's hero in place of Repliku, take it or leave.
>>491654758Yes Anon, I know what you're thinking of, I'm thinking of it too. You don't have to post him, you're not obligated to make obvious memes.
>>491654001>Nomura confirmed it.He didn't. Take your crack ships back to where they belong. Plus, if Riku was taking Repliku's role he'd just stalk Namine.
>>491653831Okay Neverland is faster>enter from the gully>use Thundaga on the first group>dodge instantly to avoid the prizes>hit Victory pose>use a second Thundaga on the second group>hit Victory pose again>leave by entering the gully again38298 exp every five minutes.Gotta check >>491652123 method next
>>491653831hope it works out for you, bro
>>491655092Don't forget to use EXP chance if you aren't.
>>491656372>>491655092>>491652123>no way to avoid the HP orbs>I get interrupted not once but twice by the style change>only 4875 exp in five minutes>even if I could avoid the orbs I wouldn't even reach 10k>even with Mickey's D-Link it would be only 19.5k, slightly faster than just Megaflame in Radiant GardenThat shit was ass
>>491656863>avoid the HP orbswhat's that for?
>>491647195I think it's just meant to show that not all darkness entities have yellow eyes there's some instances of red being used. I don't know if there's going to be a reason behind that difference. Sometimes they pay attention to those details like Anti-Aqua having red Darkling hands because that's the type of Heartless some keyblade wielders turn into when corrupted.
>>491657067EXP chance doubles EXP.
>>491657067EXP chance doubles experience but only if you are at 25% of hp or less. If I can't avoid getting my health back, I can't keep EXP chance and my exp gain is halved.
>>491648104>It was already said in KH1 that the keyblade chooses its owner. Was that not good enough?Yeah I don't like how they walked back the keyblades and even worlds having more agency. I think Nomura even said somewhere in the past the worlds can bestow keyblades to their inhabitants to act as protectors. And the worlds create that door to Xemnas' Kingdom Hearts for Sora and co to go through in 2. Maybe Nomura just decided he doesn't want there to be a divine will in KH as much and it should be the characters influencing the forces of light and dark. idk. I feel like you can have a balance of both. The inheritance ceremony does create that connection between Riku and Terra that is sort of relevant later on with the Guardian but it's not like that ends up playing a huge role in saving him in 3. It's Namine ironically that helps get Terra back with Aqua and Ventus. And the Kairi Aqua connection doesn't really pay off either or add anything. Her getting a keyblade was like an afterthought in 2 and she could've just summoned one like Lea did. And why did she need Aqua's magic to protect her? She already has PoH powers that's enough. The only connection that felt worthwhile to the story was Sora and Ventus'. The others felt a bit contrived to me and like you said overexplained things that didn't need explaining in the first place.
That's it, fuck Aqua, I'm taking her to level 69 and dropping it, I will level her up to max as my final task, when I've done literally every other single thing left to do in this game
>>491660402It's actually a bad thing to level up too high in this game, due to the damage caps on bosses, and the way the AI sometimes changes in response to you being overleveled. 60 is fine.
>>491660569I said I'm doing 69 with Aqua and you can't stop me.
>>491652001They've never gone into specifics on how the worlds work afaik. They get compared to storybooks a lot so there might not be much beyond what we visit in the games. But it's left open to interpretation how big the worlds are or maybe they vary in size for what the "story" in them demands. Destiny Islands definitely seems like a small world that's only the archipelago and the ocean. Twilight Town might not have a lot outside of Sunset Terrace besides the beach we never saw. If someone were to venture out in a world like Twilight Town they might reach the edge of the world and loop back around or find themselves in another one like Sora, Riku and Kairi figured they would by taking the raft out. Maybe Seifer and his gang ended up in another world.You get the sense most original worlds are very insular and don't seem to think much about what goes on outside the communities we see, I almost wonder if there's some kind of psychic phenomena that arose after the worlds rebuilt themselves with walls around them which keeps the average joe from thinking about what else is out there beyond their hometown. Twilight Town gets called "quiet village forgotten in the chasm between light and darkness". And Destiny Islands of course. Not sure about Radiant Garden. Ansem seemed ignorant of other worlds but there's potential Scala connections with Missing Link now that make me wonder if it's not as isolated as the other worlds. Xehanort calls it the City of Light too which is a pretty lofty title for a world that would just be random. And it's also special because it remained intact after Ansem opened the keyhole, even if it did become Hollow Bastion. And MoM omitted Radiant Garden from datascape despite it being a Princess of Heart world. So I think we have more to learn about it.
https://www.khinsider.com/forums/index.php?threads/kingdom-hearts-3-ultimania-scenario-mysteries-interview-translated.219167/>—In the Final World, Sora tells Namine, "Someone else special I know won't let you down." (*T/N: Literally, "the person you miss/want to see the most will come get you.") Did he mean Riku?>Nomura: He meant that the person Namine wants to see the most would come get her, as a way of cheering her up. It is actually Riku, in the form of the one who has been entrusted with the Riku Replica's feelings, who does go and get her. Namine does feel a special connection to Riku (the Riku Replica.)Remember CoM and how the person Sora actually wanted to see the most was Kairi? The person Namine wants to see the most, the person who has a "special connection" with her, is the man who takes her in a ride in a rocket ship and carries on the feelings of Riku Replica: Riku himself.
>>491644206Everyone in the fanbase know that BBS and DDD are both some of the worst games ever made, both in the franchise and in gaming in general.
>>491661456>Ansem seemed ignorant of other worldsNo?>it remained intact after Ansem opened the keyholePretty sure that's just because Maleficent commanded them not to do so, since it was her base, and the heartless followed suit because it was convenient for them
>>491661861Riku gets to date THIS???https://files.catbox.moe/d1o6me.jpg
>>491662495>doesn't workMy badhttps://files.catbox.moe/t8aab2.png
>>491661958>Everyone in the fanbase know that 358/2 Days and Re:coded are both some of the worst games ever made, both in the franchise and in gaming in general.There I fixed it for you, it's the reason these only survived as movies as well.
Gonna say Radiant Garden was founded by a society in Scala that splintered off for reasons but I'm not sure what that'd mean for Kairi's lineage, if anything.
>>491661861>This shit again Don't you ever get tired?
>>491662151And it's not unheard of for worlds not to be completely devoured. Some parts of worlds that lost their hearts ended up in the Realm of Darkness where Aqua was and other parts were in the End of the World. In Hollow Bastion's case Maleficent could've influenced them yeah but the town was missing too so that could've been one thing that was destroyed.
>>491662824Well, the keyblade graveyard world IS right next to Radiant Garden, it's basically a battlefield between Radiant Garden and (presumabily) Daybreak Town/Scala ad Caelum
>>491662720They were too powerful and had to be reduced to movies.
>>491663323Yeah the Badlands seem to be relatively close to Daybreak Town in UX. And also Luxu suddenly settling there after spending generations in Scala probably makes more sense if it's just a block over. With Odin winding down the keyblade school at the end of DR he decided to go keep an eye on things there and the researchers/Ansem instead.
>>491649590>I already leveled up Terra to lv.99You fucking what
It makes more sense IMO if Kairi is the only original Princess of Heart and she descends from Daybreak Town/Scala's people because they are like capital of the KH world, especially with all the royalty and bloodline stuff they're setting up anyway. They could connect it even more by making Strelitzia the og PoH before she died and it passed to Kairi. I'm surprised Minnie isn't a PoH desu. Would Disney not allow that or is Minnie too old or something? Also thinking about how Sora, Kairi and Xehanort all got throne art. Xehanort is the descendent of Ephemer so it fits. Is Kairi a blueblood. Sora isn't I'm pretty sure about that. I think he's more like Mickey where if anything he'd marry into royalty.
>>491665654I was just some hours of spamming megaflare while doing something else. Again, COM was way, WAY worse
>>491667051But WHY would you even do it in the first placeBbS levels soft-cap at 50, there is no reason to get to 99
>>491665690almost everything you wrote is wrong
>>491667371But Xehanort is Ephemer spawn.
>>491667339Because I want to 100% the game, duh. It's not about the trophies (or the other trophies inside the game's main menu), it want to 100% every KH game
>>491674137But character levels have never been part of completion tracking in any game
>>491675713If you are talking about KH games, that's wrong, there are trophies for maxing out your level in other KH games.If you mean going max level is overall not considered a tracking completion in videogames in general, then what are you smoking man? Max out your health, max out your weapons, max out your levels, maxing out stuff is a very common completionist goal.
>>491676121Yeah there are max level trophies for some of the gamesBbS is not one of themBut you already said it's "not about the trophies" so I am exclusively referring to in-game tracking
>>491662824This type of shit gives me hope the unicorn stuff in Twilight Town will be important.
god the updated Radiant Garden castle is ugly.
>>491662034i feel like i've seen this same composition for a drawing before...
should everyone get keyblade armor?
>>491687582no, they should get keyblade spacesuits
>>491687702what would those look like? just regular spacesuits?
>>491687762like a spacesuit/armor combination, like the stuff you see in metroid or whatever but white like the common image of a spacesuit with some small color accents at bestthey should just use typical keyblades though and those shouldn't match the outfit at all
>>491688443interesting idea. could be cool. i like the keyblade armor though. can you do a rough sketch of what a keyblade spacesuit would look like?
>>491688949for legal reasons i cannot
>>491689071alright. just wanted to see it for specific characters and with their keyblades.but i guess you did already give me a good enough visualization
>>491689071nta. DRAW IT, FAGGOT.
>>491689687oh, the design in mind is just a generic design, not anything you'd associate with any characters>>491689861ok
>>491687582I really dig the concept of Keyblade armor, but there's next to no reason to shovel it out to the other characters without making some modifications to it. Org cloaks cover you for Darkness protection and Sora's magical clothes come with extra benefits.
>>491687702I hope Sora gets a costume change in Star Wars
>>491690932>Sora's magical clothes come with extra benefits Riku, Kairi and I think Axels? are darkness retardant too right?
>>491690762The treachery would sting if not for the MINDNUMBINGLY POOR quality of the piece.
Bring Earth/Quake magic back.
She's got a gun and is sick of this shit!
being a kingdom hearts stan is hard when you think KH2 is wildly overrated and one of the last games in the series you want to revisit.
>>491692704wish she would grab my face like that
>>491692906Always eager to see more perspectives. What are your problems with it?
>>491692906I get it
are there any fanfics that use namine's witch powers to their extremes? She seems really powerful..
>Fire - AOE>Blizzard - single shot>Quake - launcher>Thunder - "grounder">Aero - gatherer>Water - shield>Dia - reflect>Dark - shotgun blastHire me, Square.
>>491699542>DiaThe SMT general is thataway
>>491699542>Thanks for the free ideas, nerd! That saves us some money so we can now make more Final Fantasy gacha games!
>>491699542why would you pick dia and not shell.
>>491700209Or just Reflect since it already exists
>>491693923Visiting every world multiple times to deal with both Heartless and Nobodies was off putting to me when the events within the world were a bit inconsistent with how compelling they were or weren't. I didn't like that they decided Sora needed to be an absolute moron. The whole tone of the game differed so harshly from KH1 and CoM. Riku. Reaction commands. No Billy Zane.Honestly, most of it I can forgive but the tonal shift was so jarring.But also, it gave the world some much needed Tron love, so I can't hate on it too much I guess. Don't get me wrong, KH2 was great. It did so much right, I think I just appreciate the mechanical upheavals the side games had. I think I also find every playable character post CoM Sora far more enjoyable than KH2 Sora.
Can you actually unsummon Heartless? If so, where do they go to? The only thing that comes to mind as a definitive answer is Riku summoning Anti-Sora twice, but I'm not sure that thing counts as a proper heartless.
>>491699687>>491700209https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Dia_(ability)screw you
Why do people hate time travel in KH when KH has implied it existed in the first game and did it in the third game? Or why did people hate DDD's time travel?
>>491704931Where do they even come from when you summon them?I wonder if Nomura wrote the WoFF lore where all summons come from their own seperate worlds, because I wonder if something like that might exist for Heartless. Or if that applies to Bahamut in Verum Rex in 3 or future KH games if Bahamut is in it. He was the last boss of WoFF too.
>>491717658ddd time travel just made kh more convoluted. it was fine when it was self contained in the timeless river world. everything after was nonsensical
>>491717897>ddd time travel just made kh more convoluted.Why is that a bad thing?>it was fine when it was self contained in the timeless river world.>everything after was nonsensicalHow is it nonsensicle?
https://x.com/ligero_miguel/status/1827585844523200682>BREAKING: The KH3 Premium Showcase files have leaked!>There's some wild pre-production footage, but the craziest thing I found is "カーズ(仮)" in the world list, which translates to "Cars (Tentative).">It looks like Cars was originally considered for KINGDOM HEARTS III
>>491719317https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQrsnxeVK1o
>>491719317If Yozora's true form before the heart shenanigans was blonde I swear I will shit
>>491719135because why did ansem sod in the brown coat need to be a time traveling xehanort?that's correct, right? that the brown coat ansem was a time traveling xehanort.and i didn't like how they used the time traveling to bring the past villains back in kh3.there were some cool moments involving them but it just feels weird to me. like they could've just brought the completed people to be villains instead of time traveling to bring past versions of movies nobodies into the present so they can be evil again
>>491719680>>491719317Someone should download this before it gets taken down. >709 not 104Interdasting
>>491719317>Cars worldI don't know how to feel about this. On one had I'm glad we never got it but on the other hand I want to see what type of abomination a Car Sora would look like
Idk what this says but its neat
>>491720268To set up Young Xehanort on a predestined path and paradox. Sort of like Chaos from FF1 I guess.>brought the completed peopleHow? He brought back dead people
>>491721250when the nobodies were defeated (and their heartless) they should've been completed into their original selves again. i just didn't personally like the nobodies like marluxia or xemnas for instance, being brought back from the past.why not have lauriam in kh3?why bring xemnas back again? just have xehanort.they didn't really need xemnas or ansem sod brought back. i guess they needed 13 darknesses but whatever. why did that even need to be a thing?and why not just use new characters instead of bringing villains back from the past? it's like nomura has to write everything as convoluted as possible.i mean, i like kh and appreciate the smaller details within the stories, but i'm not fond of the time travel.
>>491722440It's autism. It's always autism. I say that as an autistic man.
>>491722516and it's kind of a pet peeve of mine when things have multiple different versions of characters all together. >young xehanort>xehanort>xemnas>and ansem sod + cum guardianall being in 1 place at the same time bothers me.but i am probably autistic too.and DESU it's more of a personal reason for me. why i dislike this. it just feels weird.and unnecessary.what do you think though?
>>491722731I (the autism post guy) am not who you were originally talking to but I personally do feel it's pretty unnecessary overall. The '13' shit is extremely forced and I found forcing Xemnas, Ansem, Young Xehanort, etc simultaneously was extremely silly. If they wanted to have a gimmick with Xehanort's time powers and his different phases in life then I would have had him slip into different versions of himself in the final boss so you're basically fighting all the previous final bosses. I also agree that Marluxia and Larxene coming back was stupid and they should have just been Lauriam and Elrena.A big part of this boils down to, I think, the popularity of Organisation 13. So Nomura just got really really fucking autistic about the number 13 and couldn't just let it rest. Xehanort was already insanely powerful when his powers were split or when he was an old man in his 80s and he had Vanitas in his pocket. He sincerely did not need a billion temporal clones and norted allies. The only Org 13 member he should have had around is Xigbar and that's purely because of Braig in BBS and Luxu shenanigans.In the end though, I am following Kingdom Hearts exactly because of how unrelentingly fucking autistic it all is. So the sheer bullshit is endearing to me.
>>491723308>>491722731>>491722440I cant sleep so I can't argue butI thought it was neat. He needed 13 vs 7 lights to make the keyblade now but he had background keikakus like discovering the secrets of the keyblade war foretellers and mom. He needed the 13 new org to fight in the keyblade civil war reinactment but they were also his backup lives. And that led to hints at a him being in Quadratum Was this actually necessary narratively? Or at allm I dunno lol I just thought it was chuuni and looked cool.And going from that to KHUX made KHUX time travel more understandable
>>491724026Also I think Young Xehanort being on a predestined fate due to his older self etching things into his past selves heart actually added a lot to his character too. Its tragic. Maybe Xehanort would have ended up different if that didn't happen? Which is why I like the idea of the 14th Xehanort in Quadratum a lot too. Also norting everyone was like a satanic posession inversion of myfriends are my power as an antithesis to Sora. That whole bonds vs chains theme
>>491723308agreed.i do still enjoy kh's story too.>>491724303>Also norting everyone was like a satanic posession inversion of myfriends are my power as an antithesis to Sora. That whole bonds vs chains themethat is an interesting viewpoint.i kinda like how you think on that detail
>>491722731>>491723308You're both so retarded it hurts
i wonder how early in development this was, the hud is kinda cool>>491719714if anything it definitively puts to rest the Noctis and versus roots of verum rex
>>491719317>>491719680>those datesreminder that there's similar wip videos being made for KH4 RIGHT NOW
>>491730968If anything, it could also probably mean that the person who leaked this has access to KH4 stuff as well. This KH3 Premium Showcase was limited to a single event, so I'm wondering how the hell he managed to leak these
What is the most fruitful source for the leaks?It seems that most posters just tweeted a few details and peaced out.Would love to go into the files myself, any links have been made available to the public?
>>491735012Don't be so greedy. Let the people who know best on twitter dole the details that are best for us to know out.
>>491735012they're probably just shared in their sikrit clubs and whatnot
>>491735602Yeah, who knows what they're hiding from us just to feel special?
>>491735743honestly i wouldn't share any of that shit, not on my twitter at least. Why would you paint a target on your back? Especially when it involves fucking disney? You're just putting yourself on their radar for useless clout, and even if they won't get you right away they will soon. It's like the nintendo hackers/emulators people, those that went around parading their might (and asking for money) eventually got got cause why would a company let that fly?
>>491736104I mean it's not really a damaging leak for them, just some development info for a game released ~5 years ago. I don't think it's really worth flexing the legal muscles.
>>491736301you never know with companies like them, if investors feel like that would damage the brand or whatever they'll sic their lawyers at people no matter what, even if just as a scare tactic to make them stop without actually going to courtwhat's funny is that this shit is exactly what damages the brand, it literally creates people that outright hate the company instead of mildly disliking its products, yet they see no harm in doing it. The detachment from reality these suits have is outstanding really
>>491678794Not about the trophies also includes in-game tracking. Games don't keep track of how many weapons you have maxed out, or abilities, or other stuff, but "take that level to the limit" is a common completionist goalPlus, there's even an in-game trophy for playing 80 hours so the time I spend farming for level 99 isn't wasted, it's to fulfill my completionist autism as it contributes to fulfill the game's own completionist menu.
>>491737868>a common completionist goalSure, but... not in KH and explicitly not in BbS>there's even an in-game trophy for playing 80 hours so the time I spend farming for level 99 isn't wastedYes it isYou could have done what I did and had the game idle for 10 hours to hit 80 and done something else with that time
>>491735012wait, what leaks? i only started coming here again a couple days ago
>>491738885See >>491719317 for more details.But basically some minor KH3 leaks, like Cars world being developed and Yozora's early cinematic using the model of Noctis.
>>491738626>not in KHHow many times do I have to explain this isn't just about the game's own checks..? For starters, how many games keep track of you having maxed out every single ability, weapon, raw level, etc? None I can remember now. But it's still a completionist goal for autists like meI seriously don't get why you have such a hard time understanding this. Completionist autists like to max out all stuff, even if the game doesn't tell you to. I'm being a completionist autist with KH, so I'm maxing out everything. That's all.
>>491736569these videos are letting people listen to the japanese version of let it go without proper compensation to disney, they're gonna get sued for sure
>>491736569No way Disney lawyers would never do anything evil or litigious Especially not say a death inside their restaurants is not their fault because you signed up for a free trail of Disney+ or a preaching had a picture of Spiderman or Spiderman on a gravestone. That video is totally safe!
>>491729328Idk how to save videos from Twitter buf someone posted a comparison to a VS13 trailer. Both zoom up to Noctis/Yozora's face and the screen fades leaving his glowing eyes for a second with particles in the air.
>>491748272>or a preaching had a picture of Spiderman or Spiderman on a gravestone. That video is totally safe!Sueing a preschool that had*
Its really fucking cool that we have beta version of Yozora to go with Roxas and Lion Sora now.
>>491320603Finally started playing Re:Coded for the first time. Playing on critical having a fun time. Get to agrabah then suddenly difficulty spike. Bandits hit way to hard specially alongside red nocturnes and the yellow heartless spamming magic from far away. But aside from that, recoded is fun. This is probably the only kh game to do the command deck right.
>>491749098Okay I can see sora getting mistaken for him now, yeah.
>>491749098>Yozora is literally BHK2 electric boogaloo
>>491751952that's beta roxas thoughTHIS is beta Yozora
>>491719714They should have used that Noctis' model from the start. I really don't like the proportions of Yozora's body. His shoulders are too small, and the jacket makes his head look big. Even Riku looks better.
>Cars in KH3Bullet fucking dodged. Let's hope it goes the way of the Jungle Book and never gets considered again.
What's wrong with Cars? Even if it's a filler world, it's probably just for a minigame, like 100 Acre Wood. It's not like they can make Sora use a Keyblade to fight in that form.
>>491755375I'm irrational and somewhat petty, so the idea of a Car Sora, no matter how much play time it gets, sickens me.
>>491749154I really like Re: Coded a lot, it's a fun game, but I think the commands aren't as fun as the other command deck games.
Cars also had a decent game back on PS2, with open world exploration even. A level designed specifically for vehicle traversal could be fun.
>>491755663Wait that shit was decent? No wonder my cousin was always playing it back in the day
Before becoming Terra-Xehanort did Master Xehanort ever interact or acknowledge Aqua in any way?I know the script of BBS changed quite a lot and she was the latest addition but it still seems strange. Maybe she was always intended as Eraqus' pupil and Terra & Ven were originally Xehanort's acolytes.
>>491739537>But it's still a completionist goal for autists like meHave you considered being less autistic>Completionist autists like to max out all stuff, even if the game doesn't tell you to.There are plenty of completionists who will not do thing which are not tracked by the game or do not end in an unlock or rewardGrinding to LV99 is one such common thing completionists won't do unless otherwise incentivizedNobody in their right mind would say "well, you didn't actually complete it" because you didn't mindlessly grind to max level just for the sake of doing it
>>491756542Xehanort tells Terra it's normal all darkness when to him due to the bright lights Aqua and Ventus cast, also tells him how Ventus AND Aqua will die in the keyblade graveyard after Eraqus' death and finally he tells Vanitas to finish Aqua in the final battle.That's it, that's the amount of time Xehanort even remembered Aqua existed.
Guys what is here fucking deal?
>>491756791>Have you considered being less autistic
Ok yeah, nomura is still mad
My guess is Cars was an Olympus/Mirage Arena type world that would've centered fully around racing instead of having a typical storyline. Ratatouille made it into 3 as a minigame remember. >>491755663>>491756251Yeah Cars PS2 is one of those good licensed games. It was successful enough for them to make two sequels Mater-National and Race-O-Rama, all before Cars 2 was even a thing.Incredibles did the same with Rise of the Underminer. Pixar had a thing for original video game sequels at the time. But what's wild about that game is even though Incredibles 2 made it noncanon Michael Giacchino who also scored the game used Frozone's theme from it.https://youtu.be/a1i2B9aDxb4Seeing the way Pixar collaborated with Square for the Kingdom Hearts 3 worlds too makes me think they're pretty open to making their stuff into video games so I think we might get two more Pixar worlds in KH4. Maybe even that Cars minigame world recycled.
>>491756791>Nobody in their right mind would say "well, you didn't actually complete it" because you didn't mindlessly grind to max level just for the sake of doing it
>>491758460Pretty sure even he stopped doing stuff like thatThat and multiplayer achievements
>>491754523Wow this is kind of huge. Is this what Yozora really looks like? Or was this pre-Verum Rex being heavily inspired by Versus XIII even? We're getting good cutting room floor content here.Wonder if Nomura or Square will ever acknowledge the existence of Invictus I'd like to know the story there.
>>491756791I'm doing the same anon, I'm leveling up to the maximum at the end of each KH game. At least in BBS you secure the step, Unversed and time trophy this way as well.
>>491760663You can and most likely will achieve the first two trophies in the process of completing the rest of the game
I like the title Invictus more desu. Can have a double meaning. It's probably a game about war so invictus meaning unconquered fits that. And reading even deeper, Quadratum is a fictional world to Sora's side so it being this "unconquered" place that only exists in people's imaginations is cool. Gives "final frontier" energy.
ffxv models of lunafreya, noctis, prompto and gladio found in kh3 leaked demo
>>491761226Ignis bros.....
>>491761170where are all of these files being leaked
>>491754523>>491761170Oh shit.
>>491761429https://x.com/Luseu4/status/1827691286813413781
>>491761392they merged ignis with gladio later
>>491761691thankswas hoping for an actual link to the files but the twitterfags probably have it in their super secret discord.
>>491757406> first appears in the mobile game> stalks player's Avatar but is too shy to actually approach them> Gets assigned to be one of the new Union leaders> Gets killed by darkness possessed Ventus> ???> Perhaps her digital copy is still alive?> Perhaps she was transported somewhere by Luxu, while wearing a white coat> Somehow appears in Quadratum> Possibly because that's where dead folk from KH universe end up. Or maybe not, as it conflicts with what is said in the mobile game.> Could also be a reference to the Fabula Nova Crystallis lore, as humans moving between the realm of living and the realm of dead was first mentioned there.> And we also have Versus XIII bullshit with Verum Rex, so it's definitely possible
>>491761515Well Yozora is a commander not a captain but close enough.
>>491762025its on internet archive for xbox one, so i dont know how deep its able to be minedhttps://archive.org/details/kingdomhearts-3-premiumshowcase-a-78hwt-03br-9rj/
>>491762591B A S E DASED
>>491762591this shit was just lying around since 2018 and nobody bothered to look until now?
>>491754523Can't believe how much Yozora looks like Sora.
>>4917636252018 is when it "came" out, otherwise it's there on the archive since yesterday
>>491763625You're confusing "added date" with "publication date". The actual file was added merely an hour ago.
>>491764170oh, it's 25th today, I goofed myself
>>491754523so this is where Toy Box Sora design comes from, now everything Rex said finally makes sense what the fuck
kino...
>>491764463Yeah it's almost like Sora's toy design is a holdover. Again considering they changed the name of the game and Yozora's design maybe Magia and Aegis aren't those characters actual names anymore.
>>491765096la noche negra...
>>491765096It's the freakin bat!
>>491765096They really made a lot of assets with Yozora early on. To think people thought it would just be an easter egg.
>>491765323Magia and Aegis' names might have been changed which explains why that cutscene didn't make it into the final game but left only in the demo build.
>>491754523>>491764463Oh great, I can't wait for Yozora to recover his true aspect and be Sora 2, so we have three Soras, the normal one, the evil one (Vanitas) and the fictional one (Yozora), on top of proto-Sora and Sora's clone who looks like proto-Sora of course (Ventus and Roxas)
I think of everything that was leaked the fact that a Cars world was considered is the craziest. Not just because of how nightmarish I can imagine car Sora, but I'm not even sure if those movies were popular in Japan
I wonder if that design was some sort of fallback in case Square's upper management would catch wind about the Verum Rex connections. And then somehow it was allowed.
>>491766184Do you not know what a conceputal design means?
>>491766184well sora and yozora's names both mean sky...
>>491754523Is that the same location from Beat of Lead?>A mysterious oceanic platform located in the coastal waters of Tokyo Bay near the crash site. According to *unintelligible* is being built to conduct secret experiments
>>491766396Maybe. Nomura might've been worried it'd be too on the nose. Tabata would've still been at the company iirc.
While the Noctis influence is blatant (putting it mildly), you have to wonder if Yozora was always meant to be an expy, or if he was literally Noctis before a certain point. And I don't mean as a placeholder in that beta footage, I mean everything in script, plot, and dialogue.>>491766396I think any changes were made solely based on Nomura own feelings rather than corporate involvement. Noctis is a still a Nomura designed FF character, after all.
I don't know much about leaks but is it normal for some pre production footage and images to look bad? Like this shit looks like it came straight out of DeviantArt >>491729328>>491754523
>>491754523>>491761170Are they actually gonna give us another Sora
>>491767864Things devs use for testing or mock ups shouldn't look pretty. They just grab whatever assets they have at hand and slap them together to get the idea.
>>491767264The idea of Quadratum looking identical to modern Tokyo but there being this futuristic district they built on the coast is cool. Reminds me a little of Midgar being built over the slums.
>>491761226>Nomura-san, don't you feel uncomfortable with this model?>It's fine, I'll offer tweaks to make it look less like what Naora did and turn her back into Stella. People at this company forget I know how to model.
Stellafag wins again
>>491767727He was always meant to be an expy.
>>491768949I just brought up the actual character's name and you bring up that disgusting autist. Die.
>>491767864It's almost like they were focusing more on ideas than actual visual presentation....
>>491768192Yozora looks more like Riku as it is and if the cast are supposed to represent Donald, Goofy and Kairi as well as Versus characters you might as well add his own Sora. Especially if the idea is they switched hearts and it's a riff on KH1 where Riku is the one chosen by the keyblade/true king and Sora is the falsus rex who ends up with it by accident.
>>491768192Yozora's true form will take inspiration from Sion.
>>491769564THE BOUNCER
>>491769564i could see it. same thing happened with sora.
Yozora is Rion Steiner.
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It's pretty sad to realize that Sora will never meet Noctis. It feels like these two would make good buddies and talk about how much it sucks that everyone dumps their responsibilities on them just because they're the chosen ones.
>>491766197I could see it being popular, it had a lot of merch and collectibles back in the day.
>>491770192Bro I've seen you posting a shitton of times and never EVER in a thread with post that would deserve a filter, what are you even doing?I'm almost curious to check what the fuck is in those filters that triggers you so much because I don't see a thing I should filter here
That was quick.
>>491770813Someone used his stuff once and putting those things into 4chanx loads so much stuff it bricks the computer. Don't do it.
>>491766197>Not just because of how nightmarish I can imagine car Sorai think people are thinking too much of deviantart porn, it would just be a normal ass car with eyes like the others in that movie, think of it like a child would
>>491770179I'd laugh. >>491770715Sora has Yozora now so Noctis isn't needed.
>announces filter>suddenly image spam begins How is this any better than the shitposter?
>>491771007>>491770813>>491770813The guy doesn't like it if we discuss anything related to KH development. He wants this thread to turn into a gallery so if we so much as discuss anything about Nomura and the Tokyo/Osaka Team he gets mad.
>>491729328the guy making those KH crossover in gmod is gonna have a field day with that pic
>>491761170>Scalan font>Gothic architecture in the background Interesting...
>>491770813I remember the filterposter began this shtick when that aifag was still around last year. Probably the closest he came to justifying his existence in the thread.
>>491771007Works on my machine. Maybe don't use a toaster next time
At this point I'm expecting the next piece of Missing Link news we get to be a leak/datamine.
>>491769872>>491770179I'm glad chokers died out, they look fucking retarded.
Theory: the leak is actually Square's doing to distract us from the sheer lack of news about either KH4 or Missing Link.Just threw a few pictures there to get theories going for months.
>>49172330813 is considered an unlucky number and 7 is considered lucky, that's what probably drove most of it starting with the seven Princesses of Heart. Nomura might've come up with Organization XIII around the same time too. Those numbers became synonymous with light and darkness.
>>491772402
>>491772369Fags not welcomed
>>491772402I mean... it worked.
>>491770715They'd bond over fishing. Sora lives on an island he must know how to fish.
https://youtu.be/QalB37Wc4n4?t=707why are none of you talking about this?? yozora is literally noctis
>>491766184Nomura's hero is Takeuchi
>>491774614>beta vr cutscene is using noctis and stella modelsthe nigga even has an engine blade
>>491754523this looks way cooler than realistic grey quadratumit's like futuristic data TWTNW 2.0maybe Invictus is the game that exist in quadratum
>>491774614Beta footage is on the same tier as cut content, ie irrelevant junkYozora isn't Noctis in what was actually released, so it doesn't matter
>>491774614>>491774881umm ahkshually that's not beta footage it's previz
>>491774967Basically animated storyboards yeah. The Frozen FMV shows some actual 2D boards in the corner though. Wonder how many of those they drew for 3. We've seen some of Nomura's from past games but not many.
>>491775328Man KH really barely gets any concept art or any sort of behind the scenes stuff, didn't nomura say he would have to write a book about it or something if disney allows him
>>491772402nah, there's better non-public leaks they could just release officially to do that
>>491757406So way back in Daybreak Town kids were asked to party up and hunt down Heartless. However, not everyone was up to snuff, and the Heartless would get them. On top of that negative emotions like sadness were forbidden, cause that could lead to darkness. And as a bonus, kids who went poking their nose in where it doesn't belong had a tendency of never being seen again. So all in all friendships were transient; people would come and go and vanish without a trace. That's just how life is in that city.Strelitzia occupied her time by peoplewatching from the rooftops. You could get a really nice view of the fountain square from up there. One morning she noticed Player sitting there, waiting for a friend. After returning from her mission that night, she saw him still there, still waiting. That friend never arrived. After this she started to notice Player wherever she went; on her missions, at the fountain square, investigating the secrets of the town. No matter how many friends came and went, Player was always there, his path intersecting with hers. She felt a kinship with this person who stuck around and wanted to become friends, but didn't know how to do that. "Hi, I've been stalking you from the shadows for months. Um, wanna be friends?" Creepy. Her brother teased her that she had a crush on Player, which flustered her.Eventually, she got her chance when Ava asked her to be a Union Leader of the Dandelions. She realized Player wasn't in the Dandelions, and she could start the friendship she wanted under the pretext of recruiting him to the Dandelions. But when she tracked him down to a deserted warehouse, he wasn't there. Instead Darkness was. She was cut down, and died lamenting that she never had the courage to just go and say hi.Later on her brother would have an aneurysm trying to find her, and she may have been cloned and the clone sent away.
>>491772402this reminded me how last year on october 30 they just randomly posted news about ML after idk 8 months of silence, and it was a mondaytldr news tomorrow screencap this
>>491775747I don't remember anything about him wanting to release a book? The last KH art book came out around the time of the first game and they never bothered again after that. The only place you get storyboards and concept art is in the ultimanias. They love sharing key art, or they did back in the KH2 days, they made a lot for that game. 3 didn't have many, I think it was just the cover art, menu art and the throne one. Go back to the older games and you'd get a lot of CG renders and Nomura sketches. They've cut back on a lot.
>>491774614Kh3 has been out for almost 5 years. Nobody cares about this shit. We still have 0 news for missing link or KH4. There's nothing to talk about I've been following this series for 21 years and this is easily one of the worst drought periods ever. Maybe the worst because of all the things setup and we are literally in the end game story wise. I really hope nomura wraps things up with this series this decade. I've really just about had it with these waiting periods. Also the chunni teenager in me is accepting I'll never get a KH game that focuses on original characters and dials back on the Disney worlds. So I'd really prefer it ends sooner than later.
>>491777862It's funny how Kingdom Hearts has a reputation of having clone characters but none of them are actual clones in the sci fi sense. It's either something like Roxas or a data copy of someone. If Tron Ares is about a program going out into the real world that'd be a good one for the next KH game. If that's what they've done to Strelitzia. Shouldn't rule out that someone used the Power of Waking to revive her either I guess.
>>491781021>>491781021>Shouldn't rule out that someone used the Power of Waking to revive her either I guess.Could be how MoM gets to Quadratum.
>>491781184He'd already vanished long before Strelitzia was killed. But saving one person like Strelitzia is something he could've come back to do if he can move freely between realities. Or Luxu did it. I can't tell if it's MoM or Luxu with Strelitzia in UX, the chibi model heights are so similar.
>>491719317>>491754523Prophetic.
>>491781021The peoople who say that would have aneurysms if they ever touched Type Moon
>>491756542Xehanort doesn't interact with many characters desu. I always felt like he didn't get enough screen time with Sora even. And it's weird seeing him working with Saix in Remind even though he would remember his time as Xemnas. I guess they just take it for granted that all his incarnations are technically him even if they did have amnesia or whatever else at the time. So thinking like that he did interact with a lot of characters, just not in his Master Xehanort form.Does Xehanort harbor any of the same feelings Ansem and Xemnas had? He had a strong relationship with Riku, so does he feel that at all or does he feel disconnected from that after recompleting? Does he feel more of a connection to Aqua because of his time possessing Terra? Xemnas definitely did.
Beta Terra character iconshttps://x.com/Luseu4/status/1827794705435722085
What if Kingdom Hearts meddled with the adaptations of the fairy tales before Disney Little Mermaid for example would have Sora preventing at all costs the death of the mermaid while the opponent (org. 13 member) would have tried to keep the story the same with the tragic conclusion
>>491771119>Nomura and the Tokyo/Osaka TeamThere are 2 KH teams?
>>491785906osaka is the only kh team nowthe remains off the old kh team are making ff7 kino again
>>491785906>>491785987I've only ever played the games at a very surface level and don't really know any development history. What's up with the two teams/Osaka team thing and why is there so much animosity in the fanbase over it?
>>491754523>Invictus has Disney and Square Enix on the cover>Verum Rex is only Square EnixWhat does it mean?
Don't forget to ignore these shitposters and use the khg filter >>491786682>>491785987>>491785906
>>491786682because the diehard kh retards attribute the "floatiness" - that is, the weightlessness of the combat compared to kh2fm - to osaka team. as for who specifically is part of this team, i dunno, there used to be some huge image that had all of the details. anyway they turned the tight and relatively grounded combat from 2fm into an aircombo while you spend half your time falling out of the air messthe kh2 team was put on the ff7 remake project with nomura and yeah there's not much to that story >>491786990?
>>491785987>ff7 kinoThat explains it. >:)>>491786682If my timeline's correct then the people who didn't work on KH3 worked on Remake and Rebirth (Nomura probably needed them for a big ticket game).
>>491786682Tl:dr the games from kh2 and before were made by one team and then they were busy on versus(cuz they were making that game it was basically ff with kh gameplay a first for the series) and a team that was based in osaka worked on all the games after. A lot of people only played KH2 and thought it was the only good game, and the games after were all on handhelds and tended to be janky and not as balanced as KH2(not that it was all that balanced). But the "tokyo team" doesn't even really exist since the company restructured and a lot of people don't work there anymore
>>491787184>the kh2 team was put on the ff7 remake project with nomura and yeah there's not much to that story>there's not much to that storyAbout that
>>491757406i hope she's a data version and the real one is dead, all quadratum citizens being data would make kh4 the darkest kh game
>>491787184>the kh2 team was put on the ff7 remake projectIts not even true either.
>>491787380>KH2(not that it was all that balanced)Final Mix or Vanilla?
Thank you filternanon for the quick updates
>i am announcing that i am filtering something guys btw here's what i filteredso you're just an attention whore with nothing to add. got it
>>491787631Mitsunori Takahashi made the real-time ATB concept and fucked off while 2FM's Masanori Sato replaced him and worked with the MHW guy. Yuji Abe went to work on Ever Crisis after being the Tokyo supervisor for 3 vanilla and being stuck in Lightning hell. Daisuke Sase came back from some other studio (Capcom? Konami?) just to rejoin Nomura instead of the 14 team where he used to work, making boss battles for Rebirth. These are 5 out of 6 battle planners except for their director who Tabata fired in 2015 and the Dissidia guy with the long name on 16.
>>491787631i don't even think there are real "teams" like people think. they probably just snatch available talent and put them where they fit
>>491787982correct.retard here >>491787914 looks at mobygames credit list and thinks he understands game development.
>>491787663Both really but vanilla was basically the same as all the other games(in that you could sleep your way through it)
>>491787982That is also technically true
this is all so easy to avoid when you can find things to like about each game.except RE:CoM and Re:Coded.
>>491787914>Yuji Abe went to work on Ever Crisis after being the Tokyo supervisor for 3 vanillaYou'd think if Nomura thought he was good enough because he was in 2 then why did release KH3 suck so bad?>Lightning hellAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Guys I know we need to ignore shitposters but the image spammer deserves to be thrown in a woodchipper
it's been so long without a kh game that i'm kind of starting to stop caring if i'm being honest. i know missing link is going to be a shitty mobage so i probably won't even bother with it.
I'm rather curious on how Riku and Yozora will interact in KH4.
>>491788407>Re:CodedWrong. That game gave us NEO TWEWY.>>491788513The Stellafag writeups are at least more relevant. Some new ones with more observations about what Nomura's been doing have popped up too.>I still call them headcanon desu
>>491754523I don't think Quadratum would have really looked like that just Beat of Lead but it looks so cool and reminds me of Yozoras holographic abilities before and during his fight.>>491761170Nomura is truly invictus >>491764463Yeah holy shit.
>>491788710they won't, not for any significant reason but they just won't be in the same place at the same time at all
>>491788710They'll meet each other in the Spiderman world and they'll do the meme of the two spidermen pointing at each other.
>>491770179Yozora is Mickey
>>491788860If Nomura is invictus then I'm Final Mix
>>491788639Play Einhander while you're waiting or you're a fake fan
>>491788984That doesn't really look very similar.
>Invictus Yozora has a yellow eye instead of a red one
>>491789042by that logic i am already a fake fan because i haven't played com recom coded or any of the other mobile phone shiti did play kh3d tho, that shit was bangin
>>491789042>EinhanderThe first game by the Osaka Team...
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>>491789181I zoomed in and I don't see yellow at all
>>491789193Im just shitposting a little bit my point is the wait sucks but there's lots of tangently related KH things to do while waiting.
>>491789323Somebody commented it looked yellow so I zoomed in and you can see a dirty yellow but it's very pixelated. It's definitely not red or blue.
>>491789636i think you might be color blind
>>491789745What color is it then?
>>491789881blue
>>491789636>>491789745>>491789946Not colorblind the left eye isn't blue. If anything it's a dirty yellow/brown. Ran it through a color identifier.
Based
>>491790731>go to /v/ and enter any KH thread>It's yanderefag wanting to kill Nomura for being unfaithfulYou forgot the above but yes. It's all so tiresome.
>>491789181>>491790575I have autismed too close to the sun
>>491791395That’s just bad image compression. It’s clearly a blue eye
>>491791718You can even see the blue on the left side
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>>491791718It doesn't read as blue nor does it look as blue as the right eye.
>>491791882Because the image compression algorithm was shit and approximated the colors based on the skin that was nearby.
>>491791959the color picked up from the eye is different to that of the skin around it so that can't be.
>>491792097He’s winking with that eye which is why you only really see blue on the lower half. It’s really not rocket surgery. Also the color won’t be the exact same as the skin because it’s an approximation like I said.
>>491791395>>491791856
>>491791882>as blue as the right eye.But agree that there's blue. That blue doesn't come from nothing.
>>491792340That's fair he could be winking.>trying to think of all the times Sora's winked
>Racecar Sora with Scalan ads over himkino
>>491785906how new are you? once upon a time there were four KH teams
>>491754523It's the "Missing Link" to Fragmented Keys, you can't ignore the resemblance.
>>491797249TWOGENIES
>>491790731Generals ruined 4chan. At least thats what people said during their introductions and they might have been right considering I can't go to generals for most things I like. Moot even talked about how it was antithetical to 4chan before in a youtube interview before he left. But more than anything the mods are shit. They don't or can't detect schizos. 2020 too maybe. Tourists. Ipad babies born in 2010 are old enough to form coherent sentences and post here now.
>>491797807>Ipad babies born in 2010 are old enough to form coherent sentences and post here nowDo you really think they find their way here? They can't navigate their folders, how are you expecting them to navigate the internet?
>>491798109This general has been connected.
Come swing your arms with Wizard!Also what happened did an old beta get leaked or something?
I want to fuck Namine.
ven should've stayed a lefty.i just think it would've been cool because it would've been a unique detail he has to further show there's something odd about him compared other wielders.then again his wielding style was probably never meant to invoke that. and he does back hand his keyblade as a unique trait.
In a city of neon bright light,Yozora awaits for the fight,With a blade in his hand,He’ll warp ‘cross the land,To conquer, you must dodge just right.His strikes are both fierce and precise,With illusions that freeze you like ice,Keep your Keyblade in check,Guard, reflect, or you'll wreck,For Yozora’s not one to play nice.He’ll steal your own strength with his glare,Summon lasers that tear through the air,But with patience and skill,And a well-timed refill,You’ll best him, if only you dare.
>>491815185Was he a bad boss?
>>491783668i know that luseu faggot he often hoards shit that other find and collect for him and gets pissed when someone points it outhe is nothing but a fucking useless selfish attention seeking faggot
>>491762591anyone have the other 7z file to reuploadinitially when this was uploaded there were two 7z files and one was executable (smaller now removed file) and other one was assets (bigger still present file) and uploader has now removed the smaller fileif someone has it please reupload it
>>491757406Making babies with Sora.
>telling xion no more sea salt ice cream
>>491820880Rude.
>>491820880but who else will roxas have ice cream with?
>>491809607
>>491788639it will be worth it they've been making it since early 2019 after remind was finished. 6 dev years aka same time as kh3 (2013-2019) with the existing assets i imagine it will be way bigger than kh3 or there's also verum rex
>>491788710Riku and Yozora will definitely collide. The falsus Nameless Star will be the instigator.
>>491815903Xigbar wasn't above Xemnas and Luxord, Marluxia and Larxene died working for Xemnas. Same with Saix to a lesser extent since he did end up helping the Guardians in bringing Roxas back.
>>491833031Marluxia and Larxene weren't serving Xemnas in KH3, they were serving boss man Xehanort, and they died not giving a single fuck about Xehanort's success or failure. They were brought back from death and made into vessels, they weren't willing to serve Xemnas specifically (note Larxene's disgust and annoyance with Xemnas's sudden appearance.) Saix was trying to trigger Xion's memories right in front of Xemnas, he turned on that motherfucker hard.As for Luxord, he wasn't exactly a fan either, specifically voicing to Vexen that he didn't serve Xemmas like him. Luxord also clearly has another life and many secrets, not loyal to Xemnas.And Xigbar has never been tremendously loyal. Outside of his secret identity, he's also gone around Xemnas many times, eavesdropping on him for info on the chamber of repose, and sending Luxord on a box hunt, claiming it was Xemnas's idea. Xigbar predates Xemnas, and his relationship with Xehanort predates Xemnas-- Xehanort promised to bequeath his Keyblade not to one of his younger, viable selves, but to Xigbar.None of those hooded niggas stuck by Xemnas in the end. Not even Vexen. If he was a good boss, he'd probably have more support.
I fucked up.Been going through BBS. Got Terra's story done around 25 hours and got basically everything except the Arena fights done in the Report. Then, as I wasn't thinking about it, I saved the clear data in save slot 1.Now I'm going through Ventus and about 16 hours in. Save the game mindlessly as usual cause EVERY TIME BEFORE IT DEFAULTED TO THE SAVE SLOT FOR THE FILE. And only after it finished did I notice that the face was different. It moved to the first save slot and I overwrote it.Would have been completely crushed, but luckily I had an accidental extra save from the Terra file (it was slot 2, the Ventus was actually Slot 3) from right after I finished getting all the melding commands and abilities, 18 hours in. Still means I gotta replay all the other shit I did like getting the ice cream making done and the last worlds.I assume safest option is to like put the Cleared saves into Slots 99-97? Or just making multiple copies of each?
>>491837137If your game is still open, you haven't synced saves with Steam and can retrieve your previous saveI accidentally overwrote my Sora file in Re:CoM and had to do thisIt might set you back on Ven but Terra should be as you left it
>>491837486Thought about that, but wasn't sure and already closed it out.Most of the 7 hours lost was likely from me taking my time grinding a bit and fucking around in the Command Board stuff. I'm sure with skipping the cutscenes I'll be able to finish it up in like 3 hours. The lucky backup only has Neverland and the ending stuff to get through for Terra.
>>491837137There are 99 save slots, you just have to train yourself to not save on the first all the time.My autistic ass keeps two saves for each world for each character at least, the last save before clear game, the first created clear game save, clear game saves before the final episode and after that for each character.
News: Disneyland Japan started their Halloween events and you can now encounter Mickey, Donald and Goofy dressed in their KH outfits KH news soon?
I actually like Attraction Flow
>>491835827>Marluxia and Larxene weren't serving Xemnas in KH3, they were serving boss man XehanortXemnas is Xehanort's stand-in when he's not there so they serve Xemnas like they serve Xehanort and died serving their goals. >Saix was trying to trigger Xion's memories right in front of Xemnas, he turned on that motherfucker hard.And then Xion ended up attacking Lea after Saix's stunt. He was trying to get Xion to lose her shit and attack Lea. Saix still ended up helping accomplish Xemnas' goal.>As for Luxord, he wasn't exactly a fan either, specifically voicing to Vexen that he didn't serve Xemmas like him. Luxord also clearly has another life and many secrets, not loyal to Xemnas.Serving Xehanort and Organization XIII = Serving Xemnas.>And Xigbar has never been tremendously loyal. Outside of his secret identity, he's also gone around Xemnas many times, eavesdropping on him for info on the chamber of repose, and sending Luxord on a box hunt, claiming it was Xemnas's idea. Xigbar predates Xemnas, and his relationship with Xehanort predates Xemnas-- Xehanort promised to bequeath his Keyblade not to one of his younger, viable selves, but to Xigbar.Xigbar acting sneaky was still not Xigbar betraying Xemnas so your point is irrelevant. None of those hooded niggas stuck by >Xemnas in the end. Not even Vexen. If he was a good boss, he'd probably have more support.Xigbar, Saix, Luxord, Marluxia and Larxene all died serving Xemnas' goals.
>>491842194Nah, they've been more willing to bring out the old Kingdom Hearts cast costumes for a while now. Now if they bring back the cursed Sora costume, then we're going to get news.
>>491842194>KH news soon?New KH merch news maybe but I highly doubtful we're getting game newsThey've been doing these KH outfits at Halloween events for a couple of years already and they never announce game news in there
>>491843132It was a bad idea to have both that and summons in the same entry. Feels almost like mechanic/feature overload. I nearly thought the same about shotlocks and team attacks, but the former helps diversify keyblades while the latter gives each world more unique stuff.
Say what you want about BbS but I'm having a lot of fun, way more than with CoM, so far my ranking goes>KH2 > KH1 > BbS > CoMNo you won't convince me turning Sora's adventures into a fucking tridimensional real time card game is a good idea. Interesting? Yes. But I don't want that ever again.
>>491843132same
>>491855976Also I probably shouldn't tell you this but I had sex with Aqua twice during my playthrough.Say something nice to the thread, Aqua.She doesn't like I told you.
Inside my head
From my perspective, KH3 isn't K H "3", it feels more like another Kingdom Hearts 2 to cap off Days, BBS, Coded and DDD all feeling like different variations or flavors of KH1. Especially since BBS is a prequel to KH1 and Days is an interquel or whatever, that both show off the perspective of characters we never really knew about initially yet are directly tied to Sora and his original adventure in the first game as either the build up or the fallout to it. And so looking at everything in hindsight makes KH2 feel less like a proper sequel in itself as it instead becomes very incomplete. KH1 -> COM -> KH2 told a complete story in itself, but that doesn't really work anymore because KH1 is now surrounded by BBS and the X stuff building up to it, Days filling the space between KH1 and KH2 while also adding even more new stuff and unresolved plot threads, and then Coded and DDD (and 0.2 plot wise, technically) being like a new version of KH1 ~ COM but with the added context of Days and BBS, and so KH3 is the new version of KH2 that wraps up all those new plotlines within a vaguely similar premise to KH2 where it starts off with Yen Sid giving Sora, Donald & Goofy their objective of fighting Organization XIII while finding missing friends, and once the Org is defeated and all the friends are reunited, the game ends with everyone happily ever after on Destiny Islands... Before the sequel bait comes in at the end for the next big game. KH4 and all the X stuff feels more like a proper KH3 to me, honestly. The entire Kingdom Hearts series up to this point can easily be rewritten or rebuilt in a much more simple and clean, straightforward manner by simply taking all of the post-KH2 -> KH3 stuff and implementing all of those plot threads within KH1 ~ KH2 properly. BBS and Days should've been made and released between 1 & 2. Coded and DDD should've also just been part of KH1 ~ COM's plotline as well. And so KH3's story works best as a new ending added onto KH2.
>>491864269>The entire Kingdom Hearts series up to this point can easily be rewritten or rebuilt in a much more simple and clean, straightforward manner by simply taking all of the post-KH2 -> KH3 stuff and implementing all of those plot threads within KH1 ~ KH2 properly.that but they could also not do it but still compress it to two games that last more than 20 hours each. Like a "proper" rpg length KH game could cover at least 5 of the games we already have
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>>491865248maybe i'm just a drooling low-standards-having media consoomer cuck but i think a small deadpool cameo in the marvelshit we're guaranteed to get in KH4 would be fun. lot of silly meta shit for him to play off of.
>>491865248emaciatedpoolalso, that's nothing new
>>491865248>Deadpool secret boss>uses the same quotes from MvCKino
>>491864269I thought KH, CoM and 2 forming a sort of story trilogy was obvious. At least I think that was original intention before they decided to continue the series and not end it with 2. With 2FM there were more steps towards BBS and expanding the story into Xehanort saga. And Days before that creates the conundrum of Xion which changes how you look at 2, casting a bit of a shadow over what was originally framed as a happy ending for Roxas and Namine, returning to Sora and Kairi.So yeah mainly 3 is working as a sequel to BBS and Days to wrap up the things they set up. Forming another trilogy. But DDD and Coded throw a bit of wrench in that. Still Coded doesn't add much to the overarching plot and DDD like Nomura said is basically the first half of the "dark seeker finale" so you can look at the story of DDD and KH3 as one thing that's been split into two games kind of. And 0.2 would also factor into that. That should be obvious though they call the 2.8 collection Final Chapter Prologue for a reason.So then yeah, KH4 could be serving as a culmination of things from the "X saga" too, Missing-Link included if Sigurd is involved. But I'm not sure how they'll rely on casual players being familiar with UX's story beyond Back Cover. Nomura said it was supposed to be a fresh start of sorts. KH2 and KH3 aren't really friendly jumping on points as sequels to multiple games. I guess KH2 had less baggage. So if KH4 is mainly dealing with things in UX that's not too bad as it's one game and they can get new players up to speed with the basics much easier than 3 did with all of the Dark Seeker games it had to juggle.
>>491864269It's best to look at games in the context that they came out. KH1, CoM and KH2 are just pretty different to what came out after aside from Days where it just feeds into 2FM's greater amount of hints towards BBS with that Xigbar scene.
>>4918667342FM was very much sowing the seeds for BBS and Days which were all in different stages of development at the time. Vanilla 2 you can take more on it's own alongside the first two games.
Sora should have retained his KH1 / Limit Form look and color scheme. Ventus & Roxas should've been one character. Ventus' awakening and Roxas' return in KH3 should've been ONE big moment. My personal preference would've been to keep Roxas' design, powers and everything but simply give him Ventus' name and memories, that to me would feel like the proper conclusion to both Roxas truly being his own person, and Ventus being saved and protected by Sora for all these years.
Yozora's outfit here doesn't look all that different to what he ended up with but Magia's was like a hooded blue coat with yellow boots. Lines up with Donald's color scheme more. Aegis looks more like Toy Box Goofy's outfit as well. There finalized outfits seem to have less color.
>>491866994Even with 2FM it was just keyblade armor and the KBG. Honestly I'd say most of BBS could have fit into KH1-CoM-KH2. If it just leaned into endings where it was less about Sora then having to save everyone it could have worked as more of a tragic prequel.
>only things left to do in BBS is the fucking ice cream minigame and the Young Xehanort fightNow I really want to die
>>491868087It could've been written as much more of a self-contained prequel I guess. Could've leaned into the idea the spirits of TVA live on through Sora, Riku and Kairi because of the connections they made with them. Similar to Roxas and Namine returning to Sora and Kairi being more a bitterseet than tragic thing in vanilla 2. And then through Riku defeating/overcoming Ansem and then defeating Xemnas with Sora they avenged them by taking out what remained of Xehanort. But video game prequels that also set things up for sequels are pretty common I think. Or it just makes me think of Metal Gear Solid 3 and how that fleshes out Big Boss and introduces Zero who're all key players in MGS4. Also reminds me of George Lucas wanting to make Darth Maul the main villain of his Star Wars sequel trilogy. But at least there I don't think Lucas had any intention of making a sequel trilogy while making the prequels. Those films were meant to wrap up loose ends from the OT not set up an ST.
>>491843132Same it's a lot of fun.
>>491868775I found Ice Cream Beat fun. Arguably the best Disney Town game. The real terror is Fruitball.
>>491869524Fruitball is extremely easy, just spam triangle then x for the second hit, unless it's bananas, then press triangle again and your adversary won't be able to move around with all those peels
>>491866684I always looked at 1,COM, 2 as a first part trilogy, Days, BBS, ReCoded as the mid point trilogy, and DDD, 0.2, 3 as the end point trilogy with χ, Uχ, and Back Covet serving as a separate one. I guess RM, DR, and MoM are like a separate trilogy that feed into 2.
>>491870263*4 not 2.
>>491869884It never worked. Honestly, Ice Cream Beat was the easiest for me. Then it was Rumble Racing because after you do one character you get used to the controls for the shortcut you need to do at Disney Castle.
>>491870364You know tilting the joystick also changes the direction of the fruit you are throwing to the other side right?
>>491870447Yeah, Fruitball is just evil. I suppose because I didn't have any problems with Ice Cream Beat, BBS decided to punish me with Fruitball.
can't wait for the kh4/ml updates tomorrow in the Nintendo direct
>>491876061>indieworld and partner direct only>no switch 2I sleep while no silksong or kh news comes out again.
>>491823986Xion is an angel and the sweetest KH girl. She deserves to win Roxas and be happy
What triggered it?
>>491876257>he thinks silksong is real
>>491832604There's a good chance KH4 is better than 3 in a lot of ways. Because I think 3 was held back by the pressure of having wrap up so many pre-existing stories instead of telling a new one and we kind of knew more or less how things would play out (Sora would save everyone, fight the real organization, Xehanort would be defeated once and for all etc.). 3 also had to prove that the series still had it after it's last mainline entry in 2005/6.With 4 we don't really know where any of it's headed and they'll have a chance to build on the gameplay in 3 directly since it's the same team. So I'm pretty optimistic about it. The only thing I'm not optimistic about is the release window.
>>491872147Maybe you were the evil all along and had to be put in your place by Captain Justice, the hero of Disney Town everyone loves and votes for
>>491870364I agree Fruitball is really fickle because sometimes the opponent will score multiple goals in short succession, making it game over if you don't have such good opportunities yourself, grapes never seem to work for me.Still, I hate that the other racers are constantly cheating in Rumble Racing since they are faster than you and don't fight among them if you're ahead. The final race is the only one were you won't come in last place because of some minor mistake in the last seconds of the game.>>491866684Coded and at least the last part of DDD didn't throw a wrench in it since it's mostly about the Sora's connections to forgotten characters and the secret data Ansem hid there as well.The whole time travel replica plot is the problem, and for what? Yeah, Ansem and Xemnas are kinda cool I guess but why did we need Dark Riku, (Dark) Xion and Vanitas if the other former Nobodies were enough and there was even a reserve? Going full retard with more Xehanorts during different stages of his life would have been better than this Best Of we got.
>>491882916>Still, I hate that the other racers are constantly cheating in Rumble Racing since they are faster than you and don't fight among them if you're ahead. The final race is the only one were you won't come in last place because of some minor mistake in the last seconds of the game.Bro rumble racing is legit the easiest mini game in the entire franchise, I have never not ended up first or meeting the time limit requirement for the arena except in the final race where I ended up second twice until I got the hang on the circuit, it's so easy it's genuinely boring, how can you struggle to something like that??ice cream > fruitball >>>>> rumble racing
>>491870263The Dark Seeker Saga does roughly fit into a three-act structure if we're going by release order.>KH1, CoM and 2 are the first act/foundation>Days, BBS and Coded are the middle act/very prequel-centric>DDD, 0.2 and 3 are the final actThe order of the games in 2.8 even follows a similar structure to the saga overall. Starts with DDD but then sandwiched between it and 0.2 is X Back Cover which is a prequel. Similar to how the saga's middle act is mostly prequel games.I kind of look at Melody of Memory and Dark Road as an epilogue to the Dark Seeker Saga. You could group them in with the third act even. Judging by Nomura wanting Dark Road to be a console game originally, it probably would've fit somewhere between DDD and 3 similar to Back Cover as a prequel mini-second act. But ultimately it released after 3 with MoM so it's more of an epilogue now. But ideally I think Dark Road's story belongs not in the X mobile saga but the Dark Seeker one it was probably originally envisioned for, in that 2.8 spot maybe. And Remind+Melody of Memory are true Dark Seeker epilogue.I'm trying to think of other stories that cram prequels/flashbacks into their mid-sections but I'm coming up blank.
>>491883341>I'm trying to think of other stories that cram prequels/flashbacks into their mid-sections but I'm coming up blank.The only thing that immediately comes to mind is the Underworld series where Rise of the Lycans was a prequel and also the third film in a five film series. But it doesn't fit your definition to a tee.
>>491883341And if Kingdom Hearts' entire storyline consists of the Dark Seeker, χ and Lost Master Sagas that's also three parts with the second one being dedicated to prequel content.>>491884447Maybe it has something to do with Japanese storytelling structure? KH sort of follows that but it's a pretty basic framework anyway There is definitely a theme in KH where a lot of the major events and conflicts happen before the first act of the arc but those events are then the focus of the second act. With the third acts being more about resolving things set up in those second act prequels (3 resolved Master Xehanort's story set up officially in BBS and the Lost Master Saga will likely resolve what the χ Saga has set up). I mean there's definitely conflict in KH3 but the game overall is really about resolving all the loose plot threads set up by BBS and Days especially.
Aqua is a single rain drop. Kairi is the entire ocean. Ariel? She is beneath Kairi. Under the Sea.
A lot of stories start with all the cool stuff already having happened. We did end up getting the Keyblade War kind of but only from Player's POV and in 2D chibi style. Still holding out for a remake of that or more cutcscenes showing the original war someday.Even the Keyblade War in KH3 felt less like a war and more like a ceremony or ritual the characters all had to go through, a baptism of fire to reach Xehanort almost. But I guess it fits Sora that he's not going out creating conflicts so much as he is trying to resolve things and restore stuff back to the way it was. Adventure finds him and he doesn't seem that ambitious or bothered about becoming a keyblade master or anything. He's kind of a unique protagonist in that way. He's not super shonen-y.
>>491888486I like how 3D started and ended with him not caring about becoming master. In hindsight him not taking the test seriously probably screwed him over since that tracks with him not being too careful when the org showed up, but I appreciate not having a protag who's trying to be the best ever.
>>491889497>I appreciate not having a protag who's trying to be the best ever.Neither is Riku really after his darkness arc, he was the more ambitious out of him and Sora. Now it's Kairi, MoM ends with her giving the "I need to get stronger" spiel and she even had a mini training arc in 3. Looking at Nomura's track record writing Kairi after the first game though I'm not confidant that'll really lead anywhere interesting. Maybe we'll get a cutscene of her training with Aqua in 4 reminiscing about Sora. Eventually she'll get to team up with Sora and Riku I guess, that's been a long time coming. But maybe Sora will be less careless in 4 after his experiences in DDD and 3. He's affected by happened to the guardians and Kairi in the Keyblade Graveyard and becomes more cautious wanting his friends to stay out of the fight, pushing them away even. That'd be a darker direction for his arc in 4. Sora believing he has to face the Lost Masters alone or his friends will be dragged down with him like before, taking that advice Xigbar gave him back in Olympus. We don't even know if there are any other chess pieces on the board at the beginning of the match besides Sora's. I'm sure others will join him but they could only be showing us his vs the Lost Masters for a reason.
move over Riku and Kairi
>>491883324>Easiest minigame ENTER
>>491892996>Just have Sora become more like KH2 Riku, that'll be good! Has anyone in this godforsaken fandom ever managed to speculate an even halfway interesting progression of Sora's character?
>>491899273I want Sora to be static pretty much in terms of personality.
>>491899273God forbid Sora have any kind of inner conflict.
>>491899632I have nothing against Sora having inner conflict and growing as a character. I'm just saying that the only ideas people ever want to come up with are "make Sora act more like X brooding character" or "make Sora evil," and that sucks. It's boring and unoriginal.
>>491899273For one thing Riku's arc in and around KH2 was barely explored anyway. He's just there on the periphery avoiding Sora until the ending. Sora not wanting to put his friends in harm's way after KH3 is a pretty normal reaction after what happened. Especially if he realizes the threat that the Lost Masters and True Darkness pose is even bigger than the Organization and Xehanort. Not saying it has to be a huge part of the story because no doubt he'll still be with Donald and Goofy anyway and not entirely alone. But him showing some resistance to Riku, Kairi or Strelitzia getting involved in the final battle would be earned and not out of left field for his character at all to me. Obviously I don't want forced conflict. Sora is normally easygoing, but you can push him to be a little more cautious after 3 so his character's not completely static.
>>491894280>RikuPlot kind of ended with KH2, Just kind of there.>XehanortThe overarching antagonist for 95% of the franchise thus far. Has shitloads of characterisation, development, numerous forms, potential for redemption, more interesting powers, parallels the protagonist in more ways, more hostile and aggressive as a potential rival, would have a strained relationship with the protagonist that makes their dynamic as allies more interesting, etc.>KairiShe pretty much only does anything in KH1, KH3 and MoM. And she has very little going for her besides being pure light and one scene with apprentice Xehanort.>StrelitziaIntroduces a shitload of lore to the modern era from the mobile games, has a direct connection and potential development with several characters (Marluxia/Lauriam, Larxene/Elrena, Ven, Vanitas, Luxu), tragic backstory, has a stated specialty in magic that gives her a niche in combat already, plenty of room for character development, huge mystery in how she is in Quadratum and whether or not she's the real Strelitzia, could have most of KH4 to develop with Sora
>>491901248I don't want Sora to be brooding or evil. Anxious/afraid is probably more accurate. Not "realistic depiction of a panic attack" tier but he could have some ptsd from all the shit he went through in 3 watching his friends die, then Kairi die etc. We got some of that with Aqua where she saw the Heartless as a swarm of Anti-Aquas and froze up. And the fact MoM is very manipulative and Darkness specializes in psychological warfare.
>>491902862>Sora therapy minigame in KHIV
>>491903474>Eventually it becomes clear Strelitzia needs therapy too, remembering her death and secretly angsting on whether she's real or not
>>491903474>>491903753>"Everybody asks 'where's Sora?' but nobody asks 'how's Sora?'...
>>491902862>he could have some ptsdThat's not the kind of character Sora is.
>>491901514The only major difference I'm seeing here is in screentime. Even then, by how much? There's also the fact that he'll be working with Strelitzia anyway.
>>491904590>That's not the kind of character Sora is.idk
>>491901740>Riku Needs redemption for how badly he got done in KH3. Is a new Keyblade Master in an arc that is presumably going to focus a lot more on old Keyblade wider society. Is liked by everyone. >XehanortIs dead. Has a bunch of dead variants. Does not need nor deserve a redemption arc. Is liked almost exclusively by lorefags. >Kairi Already has a target on her for the next arc by being a pure heart. Has an actual motive for participating in the saga, and already has a track record/characteristics that would piss the foretellers off. >Strelitzia Doesn't even exist in a real game yet.
>>491754523Aw man what the hell.
The biggest thing of interest I see in that would be Sora trying to keep his friends safe while also befriending/working with Strelitzia, who has her own messy history. Nice for a little self-contained episode in Sora's life, but not quite enough to really feed into the saga at large. Perhaps I'm missing something.
>>491910530For >>491902862
>>491910530Nobody gives a shit about Strelitzia. Fuck off already. She's gonna be given the Namine treatment.
whenever i see ideas like these, i'm more thankful that none of you are part of the writing team.
>>491881114It felt like DDD 2, guardians of light should have interacted more between final fights, they're either going to retire from fighting or be irrelevant due to unreality entering restrictions in kh4. Thank God Osaka finally sat in the room and studied kh2 boss fights to make Remind great. Now they need to improve mob fights by adding magnet or other grouping spell and making off screen enemies indicate that they're going to attack
>>491906054He can have low lows, but he always ends up picking himself back up before long.
>>491910530if Quadratum is world of people who passed away Nomura could make very existential story. Imagine if real Streletzia is dead and her clone or data is in Quadratum
>>491912282It's only an afterlife for Sora and Strelitzia. To the people who live there, it's just normal.
>>491910951You got the wrong guy, man. >>491912282I don't know if you could write a compelling existentialist story with Sora anyway.
>take away namine's pen and booklet>sitting her in the cornertime out missy
>>491911631I'm interested to see how the nonhumanoid bosses and mob fights will play and if they'll make any Heartless enemies that are data boss tier. Not sure how they're gonna handle dlc for 4 without the org data since that became a mainstay for the numbered games but they're gone now and we only have seven lost masters assuming they're even all available to fight in 4. Maybe they'll cook up some Dark Inferno type original data bosses alongside the data Foretellers but they're actually well designed. Or you can fight each of the Foretellers Darkness sealed inside them doubling the boss count to 10 at least.
>>491911705I wouldn't push anything like that with Sora too far. He has moments where he's down but his friends either pick him back up or he comes to his senses because he's too damn nice to sit around and wallow in his sadness when there's worlds to save. I just think you could have a character beat in the Quadratum prologue or something where fumbles a bit but Strelitzia or Donald and Goofy show up and tell him to believe in himself or whatever. By the end of it he's ready to go off on more adventures to the Disney worlds and he's his usual self pretty much.
What is the significance of the sleeping Ventus opening a gate at the end of BBS instead of a corridor to the lanes between like what everyone uses the whole game? Did the Land of Departure send it since they are supposed to be provided by worlds according to Yen Sid in KH2? Is there an advantage for using gates? I just don't get why it's different here while every game after KH2 seems to have dropped gates as a concept as well. Maybe they are the "awake" versions of the Sleeping Keyholes are something like that.
>>491911156Nothing is worse than KH reboot guy's ideashttps://youtu.be/ZFTiC1Uqhfs
>>491918812>Suffer through the first ten minutes>He's still talking >Finally check the runtimeWhat the fuck
>>491918812It really says a lot that this is the last video on that channel and only has 400 views after 10 months
>>491918538>every game after KH2 seems to have dropped gates as a concept as wellThey take a gate to KH3 Olympus. I'm not sure if they're meant to be the same thing as the Lanes Between, they're both very similar.>Eraqus: I have unlocked the Lanes Between. You may use these forbidden pathways to travel between this world and countless others. The darkness looms closer than usual within these spaces, but your armor will protect you.>Yen Sid: Do not fear. If what the King suspected proves true, the worlds have prepared new pathways along which you may travel. These pathways may be utilized by unlocking special gates. How these gates are opened, I'm afraid I do not know... However, the Keyblade will serve as your guide.>Young Xehanort: Perhaps that past experience affected my heart more than I realized. Or perhaps these feelings were born when I left the island and first walked through these gates, and only now, they are coming to the surface. The turbulent emotions which flood this corridor are more than anyone could bear. To even try would allow darkness to devour you. My armor provides protection, yet every time I pass through, the darkness seeps further into my heart>MoM: Ouch. Well, anyhoo, I just wanted to warn you that going through these gates exposed is a no-no.
>>491917227Maybe ice titan type for non humanoids idk. We will definitely get all foretellers data + yozora + mom + i assume missing link villians like sigurd it could be even sephiroth, riku or verum rex yozora friends. I don't think they would want to reduce boss count from kh3 for DLC
>>491918812I think I first encountered this autist on the KHInsider forums over ten years ago. He rewrote the whole script game by game and commissioned lots and lots of art for his "vision".
>>491921331I had the whole thing going as background noise but he just rambles on about the same stuff repeating the same phrases and crapping on Nomura. Like when he first posted about it pre video he tried to be more positive but there's no getting around the fact he doesn't want Kingdom Hearts to be Kingdom Hearts. You might as well just create something else at that point with all the changes he wanted to make.
Kind of crazy to see they were still working on the Frozen world in January 2018 but we got a trailer reveal for it in June for E3. Makes me wonder how late into development Big Hero 6 was finished. I would've guessed the FMVs were some of the first things they finished too.
Conceptualize it.
>>491926292I saw someone shitting on Kingdom Hearts 3 because 'its embaressing how much work they put into the Frozen FMVs' after seeing this. What the fuck did Nomura do to people
>>491930718We've reached a point where some KH3 detractors are being met with responses like>who asked>take it easy>just like the other gamesSo it's definitely reached a point of general annoyance. People have to move on, and it's been five years, approaching six.
This might be too tragic to be in Kingdom Hearts
>>491930718People waited for Kingdom Hearts for 13 years. If Half Life 3 ever comes out and it isn't perfect, Valve and Steam are going to die.
>>491930718I see a lot of defense for 3 have some variation of "It isn't perfect..." and I roll my eyes, no KH game, or game in general is perfect, I don't know how we got to the point in the games discourse that its lack of perfection is something that needs to be mentioned.
>>491899273Ive seen people talk about how now that Sora has been on his own he's going to learn how to get some self confidence. Like Ventus says 'my friends are my power and Im theirs!' But Sora never finishes it. And its the first time he's been somewhere for this long without Donald and Goofy I think. Just throwing stuff out there but:When he meets Yozora hey're probably going to contrast and grow since both are opposites of one another. Possibly related to the above. Since the game is about psuedo death they could do somethin like making Sora go through the 5 stages of grief. Sora doesn't know anything about the past or Darknesses or the MoM yet. So we'll see him react to it and he should have some pretty strong reactions to it and what the MoM did. Its kinda too vague to say anything more specific than that but we do know he had trouble accepting Vanitas as only Darkness. Also the whole child of destiny stuff might come into play as a manipulation by MoM.Maybe he has to come to terms with his own Darkness. Getting his own Keyblade could be a chuuni moment at the end of an arc.He and Yozora could act as a bridge for both worlds.
>>491932934>Getting his own Keyblade could be a chuuni moment at the end of an arc.He has his own keyblade. He earned his Kingdom Key unlike every other wielder who just touched a keyblade and was given one. Giving Sora "his own" keyblade completely undermines KH1.
>>491932826>no KH game, or game in general is perfect,Its because KH3 detractors tend to not remember some flaws they complain about were in previous games.
>>491918812Fuck this guy to hell and back. He doesn't care about KH, he only cares about making something Disney adults can jack off too. Also...alternative hair color just being a lighter shade. LOL>>491922174Not only that. It's the third fucking version of that channel.>>491923990Wait, seriously? THE WHOLE SCRIPT GAME BY GAME? I'm gonna have to try and find that shit.
>>491933297Yeah but he never got one jelqed out of his heart yet. Not that he needs to but I just think it would be chuuni. We know people have keyblade stealing tech and it could be a culmination of an arc about insecurity. Its very vague right now so Im not really that attached to the idea.
>>491933701WHY DOES THE MOTHERFUCKING IMAGE DUMPER START DUMPING EVERYTIME I START TALKING HERE I SWEAR IT HAPPENS TO ONLY ME AND NO ONE ELSE AHHHHH
>>491927467Terra doing Ultima Cannon and Roxas doing that thing from his DM were he spins his Keyblades to shoot homing light balls. Have Roxas doing that on the tip of the Ultima Cannon to shoot huge and a shitton of Ultima tracking balls
>>491912429Does that mean Kingdom Kingdom Hearts reality is an afterlife for Luxord
>>491934416Fucking kek. Beautiful drawing
>>491935109Depends on how he got to it.
>>491934416This reminded me of the balls Terra Ventud and Aqua had to smack around lol
69 days to Hallo ween, 69 days to 69 Wizard.I drew this on the right day, I just didn't take a picture of it til now.
>Ground Control to Major Tom
>>491935810I am 99% postive it has to do with him gambling his life.
>>491932934The thing about Sora learning to believe in himself is trite and overdone. The only reason to accept Nomura retreading that shit after 2 was because there really wasn't much you could do with Sora in the tail end of the Dark seeker saga anyway. It's time to move on. And the autism over Ventus' version of "my friends are my power" is fucking stupid. I don't see how one could possibly write a good story about "death" and the stages of grief (ending with acceptance) when we all know this is going to end with Sora getting back home. And since when did Sora have a problem with accepting Darkness? He's been using it on command at least since DDD (earlier if you want to count the dark Firaga blasts in the Session Limit).
>>491948878>The thing about Sora learning to believe in himself is trite and overdone.I think that was the logical conclusion for KHIII given his entire arc up until that point was his reliance on his friends.Literally the thesis of his major character speech in KH1 is that he sucks, but at least he has his friends to back him up.So for his crisis in the climax to be centered around his self-worth is the most natural place to take him.Sora in Quadratum is the most isolated he's ever been. The only friend he has is Strelitzia, who he's meeting for the first time. And when the city's in trouble he has to fight by himself for the first time ever since Destiny Islands.If there's any time for Sora to mature, introspect, and grow his self-worth, it's now.>when we all know this is going to end with Sora getting back homeThere's this writing trick called dramatic irony. WE know he'll get back home but that doesn't mean Sora knows. Such a storyline doesn't have to rely on the audience's perception of Sora's situation.
I'm new to the series but from what I have seen Sora having some sort of character arc from being totally disconnected from his friends in Quadratum would make sense because he derives all of his sense of strength from his bonds with them. The issue with that is that it inherently restricts him from meeting characters like Riku, Donald, Goofy, etc which fans would dislike. The reason I single out Sora's (apparent) reliance on his friends is that to make a character have an interesting story you need to challenge them by exploiting their flaws, weaknesses, vulnerabilities and Quadratum creates a context where that's possible. You're taking a guy that puts on a happy face and is motivated purely by his love for his friends then isolating him in an unknown (and hostile?) reality where his only allies are strangers who may have ulterior motives.Beyond that I don't recognise any apparent depth to Sora that would grant him any narrative weight in the new saga. If anything I would think Ven would make more sense as the protagonist of the next saga given his connection to MoM, Strelitzia and so on.
>>491918812This fucker is STILL going? How delusional can one person be?
>>491918812>400 viewsthat's your channel, isn't it?
>>491950424>I think that was the logical conclusion for KHIII given his entire arc up until that point was his reliance on his friendsHis entire arc ended in 2. Then Nomura regressed him so he could do it again. Even then, the point of "Sora needs to stop relying on his friends" is an odd one to give Sora when all these bad scenarios he's gotten in have basically nothing to do with that flaw. Even in DDD, which apparently re-opened the wound, the whole reason he was taking the test in the first place was to support Riku, not the other way around. >I've got a better weapon: my heartEven within the speech, Sora's still giving himself some credit. And note that KH1 doesn't end on this fight, but with the battle against Ansem (which Sora fights on his own for three phases). The message the game's clearly sending by the end is that Sora has reached the point where he can stand on his own two feet. Then COM comes around spelling it out within the first hour when Sora tells Marluxia he can manage on his own even without his friends. >The only friend he has is Strelitzia, who he's meeting for the first time.So what? >Fight by himself Doesn't Strelitzia have a keyblade?>If there's any time for Sora to mature, introspect, and grow his self-worthHe's already developed his self-worth. Some more introspection would be nice, but don't expect me to cheer at Sora doing something he's been doing since the first game. >Dramatic irony The "Dramatic irony" here stems entirely from us knowing what type of story this is, not some specific in-universe knowledge. There's nothing compelling about Sora wasting everyone's time angsting over being "dead" and potentially coming to terms with it only to end up back home anyway. It could be pretty funny, though.
>>491936683what if the darkness inside ventus being vanitas is a red herring?it could be a separate entity besides vanitas
>>491957445>His entire arc ended in 2I disagree and I don't know why you think thatThe only arc that ended in KHII was the arc of his relationship to Riku (which is, frankly, mostly Riku's arc)>Doesn't Strelitzia have a keyblade?It seems pretty clear to me that Strelitzia is not a party member>There's nothing compelling about Sora wasting everyone's time angsting over being "dead" and potentially coming to terms with it only to end up back home anywayThis is the same mindset of "nothing happens in Re:coded" and it makes me wonder why you're even talking about character arcs when you're obviously more interested in tangible plot events
>>491958050>I don't know why you think that Anon, the ending was literally an unskippable cutscene, how could you possibly miss this? >It seems So she has a Keyblade and has no reason not to use said Keyblade but she just won't because....reasons. >You have to enjoy characters spinning their wheels in place! Re:Coded isn't anything like what you're proposing. It gave Sora something compelling to chew on and we even got a solid theme out of it. It had a point. What's the point behind your angst fest? What is Sora coming away with after wasting his time uncharacteristically moping over nothing?
>>491960139>how could you possibly miss this? That conversation was about the way Sora and Riku compare themselves to one another
>>491899273>>491948878So since everyone else's ideas are so shit have you managed to speculate an even halfway interesting progression of Sora's character?
>>491960505Riku is the origin story behind all of Sora's self worth issues in the first place. He's the one Sora always got compared to, the one everyone on the island always picked over him. He was the last thread left in Sora's character development after coming into his own as a Keyblade wielder.
>>491961394Just because he resolved his rivalry with Riku doesn't mean he magically fixed all of his confidence and self-worth issuesJust because Riku might be the source doesn't mean that's all there is to it.It's not a regression of his character at all to still have lingering demons. That's just normal.
I want Sora and Strelitzia to hold hands on go on dates
>>491948878>I don't see how one could possibly write a good story about "death" ... when we all know this is going to end with Sora getting back home.Wait are you saying you think KH4 isn't going to be a story about death?
>>491961791>Just because he resolved his rivalry with Riku doesn't mean he magically fixed all of his confidence and self-worth issuesYou're right. Specifically speaking, Riku was the last piece in the puzzle. Sora had already discovered self-worth in becoming a Keyblade wielder and saving the world (beating the tar out of Riku twice probably helped as well). Being relied on by his friends healed the wound further. Acknowledging his own power did so more. The ending was the cherry on top. >It's not regression for a character to spend two whole games relearning nearly the same exact things and precious little elseI vehemently disagree.
If Larxene and Marluxia appear again will they be wearing new clothes or will they will be wearing the organization xiii coat?
>>491962928>Riku was the last piece in the puzzleThat would be a fine interpretation if KHII was the last game in the series.But it's not, and literally the very next thing in Sora's story is him falling for the villain's trap and failing his Mark of Mastery.Then he gets sent on a quest to find power, comes up short, and watches all of his friends die.Damn, I wonder how Sora might process these events... surely this will have no bearing on his confidence and self-worth! He's fine!>I vehemently disagree.Well, you're wrong, so
>>491962928So the answer is no you don't have any better ideas and just want to fight with that guy lol
>>491948878>And since when did Sora have a problem with accepting Darkness? He's been using it on command at least since DDD (earlier if you want to count the dark Firaga blasts in the Session Limit).It being in gameplay isn't in the story.
>>491962182This but with me and Aqua
>>491966014Also the only dark ability I remember Sora having in DDD was Shadowbreaker, which is half-light anyway...
>>491963509>But it's not Which is where the regression comes into play. Sora was both powerful and reached self-acceptance at the end of 2. Nomura had nothing new to say with Sora but still wanted him as the main character for 3. So he just decided to smash things into Sora until he "organically" fell back on his development enough to have room for "growth." >Falling for the villain's trapThrough literally no fault of his own other than being a good friend to Riku. >Failing his Mark of MasteryWhich he never cared about in the first place.>Yadda yaddaAnon, literally all you're doing is listing the in-universe excuses for why Sora has to retread his character arc in the first place. >You're wrongI'm not.
>>491966014The point stands that Sora doesn't have a particular problem with darkness.
>>491963306New clothes are always welcomed. But I want Namine to get a new design the most
>>491967303I remember s few years ago when for a week a lot of artists were drawing what if designs for Namine. Most of them were hit or miss tho but I liked some ones that were s light blue dress kinda similar to kh3 Kairi clothes
>>491966715dead child soldiers
>>491967740They're not dead. They're in an eternal coma and animorph into animals
>>491966950The entire ending of DDD was him falling into darkness.And so far only Riku has become at peace with his darkness and become immune to it.And light can be darkness depending on what that person believes and their morals.
>>491966654NTA but...Does it never occur to you that Sora puts up a front to make it seem like he isn't as bothered by things as he is because he doesn't want to worry others? You can see it in KH2 for a brief moment as the mask slips off when he reflects about how they're always just passing by, Donald sounds concerned, and suddenly Sora goes "Just kidding!"He may SAY he doesn't care that he thinks his own power doesn't exist, that without his friend's he's nothing. But it's a deliberate choice to have Ventus say, "My friends are my power, and I'm theirs!" and Sora never saying that. He's less regressing and more facing the part of him that he's been using as an unhealthy coping mechanism. And unfortunately... that while he's decided he does have some power no one else does, he uses it to sacrifice himself to save others. That's not to say there were better options for him to save everyone, but... it's more importantly a foil thing against Xehanort once moreXehanort losses almost everything and decides he's the one fit to lead everything. He doesn't learn to treasure those he has with more care, he shuts himself off and manipulates everyone to get what he wants, ending up with even less than he had before he lost all his friends. Dying a pathetic old man with only one person who still cares for him. Sora, by contrast, loses everything and tries to fix it at the cost of his life. He's told that he's going to have to pay an ultimate price to save everyone, but he doesn't even hesitate to do so. Everyone else is safe now, even several of his former enemies. And now that he's gone, no one's going to stop looking to bring him back.
>>491967472Yeah I remember those designs but most of them were copying too hard on Kairi's new clothes. There was one with Namine in a summer dress and summer sandals that kinda look cute
>>491966654>Nomura had nothing new to say with SoraGenuinely I don't know how you can play the games after KHII and think this. Re:coded is an entire thesis on why Sora is not only the protagonist of the game, but the hero of the series.>Through literally no fault of his own>Which he never cared about in the first placeDo you think that matters?Listen I'm about as logicpilled as you can get before an autism diagnosis and even I understand that human emotions and the way they process things are more complicated than this.Just because it's not your fault or you weren't that invested doesn't mean failure won't still sting.>the in-universe excuses for why Sora has to retread his character arcYeah I suppose the correct option is for Sora to just not be challenged at allCan you even identify some other struggle Sora could have?Sora's entire character revolves around the people he's connected with.You could even go as far as to say that without his friends, he isn't even a character at all.And that's the entire point of his arc post-KHII. That's why he breaks at the Keyblade Graveyard.He didn't accept himself at the end of KHII. He accepted that he wasn't Riku. In truth, Sora never knew who "he" was, because he's always only seen himself in the context of the people around him.
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>>491963306Larxene shopping for new clothes in Quadratum!
>>491968361>Genuinely I don't know how you can play the games after KHII and think this.All you have to do is point out the new things Nomura had to say with Sora following 2, and yet you don't. Of course there's a reason why Sora is still the hero, but that's irrelevant when discussing character arcs because nearly all of those qualities are just inherently built into Sora. >Yeah I suppose the correct option is for Sora to just not be challenged at allWhy is it always black-and-white for you people the second your fanfiction gets rebuffed? I want progression that's actually fucking meaningful, not just the same shit repackaged with new paint. And I've been asking myself the same question with the only answer coming to mind being Sora forging some new society of Keyblade wielders to prepare against MoM, but I don't buy into that. I've never been so close to taking the black pill on Sora's potential for meaningful growth as a character until now. >You could say without his friends, he isn't even a character at all A stupid a point to make considering KH's themes alone, which is to say nothing of writing in general. The rest of what you've written hardly feels worth addressing. It's just post-hoc rationalizations for why Sora's obvious character arc wasn't actually complete before.
>>491974751>And I've been asking myself the same question with the only answer coming to mind being Sora forging some new society of Keyblade wielders to prepare against MoMYou say shit like this and have the gall to call it fanfiction that I believe there's more to Sora's character arc than what was explored up to KHII
>>491975548I know it's a shitty fanfic idea. That's why I said I don't buy it. >I believe there's more to Sora's character arc than what was explored up to KHIIA character can only grow so far past their original idea, anon.
>>491976247>A character can only grow so far past their original idea, anon.That's not even remotely true. A character can grow as much or as little as the writer wants them to. You could even have them change so much that they're unrecognizable between the start of their story and the end.At this point all I'm getting is that you reached the end of KHII, felt "well that's the end of Sora's story, then" and are very stubbornly refusing to even entertain the idea that it didn't actually wrap everything up in a neat little bow.
>>491968167Sora literally says at multiple points that he can handle himself. He proves multiple times that this newfound belief in self isn't an act. Even hiding his homesickness in 2 so as to not concern others implies that he understands he has value to his friends. Stop trying to feed me this revisionist history of what happened.Kino writeup on the contrast between Sora and Xehanort though.
>>491977767>Even hiding his homesickness in 2 so as to not concern others implies that he understands he has value to his friendsAnon, hiding your true feelings because you believe it will be a burden to others is a classic move from the playbook of low self-esteem
>>491977456>That's not even remotely trueYes, anon, that's all technically true. It's just that 90% of the time it ends up being for the worse (especially in long running stories). >At this point Well, forgive me for not kowtowing to your irontight arguments of...basically nothing.
>>491978000All I found on any "playbook" was trouble asking for help. Adjacent to the problem, but Sora's perfectly fine with asking others for help. He's also perfectly capable of accepting compliments/praise from others (another thing found on the playlist).
