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sheep!

Big meaty notes
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=xg9_rosyyop

Versusia Character Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2OoiGWYFUk

Upcoming tournaments:

/gbvsg/ NA tournament 11th
August 24th 3:30 PT / 6:30 ET
https://challonge.com/jzhx3ax

/gbvsg/ EU tournament 6th
August 24th 12:00 PT / 9pm CEST
https://challonge.com/ty0xasd3

SilentOne tournament VOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMsX2TfHxlM
NA TOURNEY #10 VOD:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2221232191
EU TOURNEY #5 VOD
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2221057094

>Older Tournament VODS:
https://pastebin.com/c3CUiLvg
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>(un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby
To join, turn Crossplay off in System settings so that you're able to join Platform lobbies.
Then you can join the (un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby at Japan Platform Lobby 1. Image version of joining instructions @ https://i.imgur.com/bCHqtDL.png
Playstation players cannot join the lobby, use the room if needed instead.
>(un)Official /gbvsg/ Rooms
Usually has "gbvsg" as password (check thread). f2players cannot join so ask people to join the lobby instead.
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>Upcoming DLC
Versusia (20 aug), Vikala (october) will close out the pass, season 2 starts with Sandalphon.
https://youtu.be/4GqEX6Eqr34

New Belial Battle Pass Costume:
https://x.com/gbvs_official/status/1817149182618341539
>this week's F2P rotation
Gran, Nier, Sieg, Seox
>Latest Patch Notes
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=xg9_rosyyop
>Steam page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2157560/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus_Rising/
>Website
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/
>Resources:
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR
>Twitter hashtags
https://twitter.com/YamicornDMV/status/1709222479061745711
>Match replays
https://replaytheater.app/?game=gbvs

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I can say with utmost certainty that Rising is the best current fighting game
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>>491675716
Horse provoking ass
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>>491675759
I genuinely enjoy SF6 gameplay more, because its less volatile in general. However, its so fucking ugly that overall Rising wins for me as the best modern FG
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>>491675759
I honestly agree.
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>>491676157
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>no Niers in top 8 of TNS
Hallelujah
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>>491676313
thank you
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explain to me how she's dishonest in the current meta without sounding mad
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>>491676221
what do you mean with volatile? you mean good players will beat bad ones more consistently?
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OTOTOTO
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>>491676221
...how is sf6 less volatile than rising lol
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>>491676313
cholesterol provoking horse
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>>491676530
Thread can't be saved. You went too many threads without posting.
You could have prevented this.
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>>491675759
And I can say with the utmost certainty that you are wrong.
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>>491672340
>>491672340
got your azz
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>>491676724
Nyo...
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It's been 6 minutes why cant i find a rank match as a D-Rank?
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>>491676356
>>491676592
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>open TNS: AWT
>diaperphone being microwaved by BSG vaseraga
Anyway back to the better tournament...
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>>491676221
>SF6
>less volatile
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charlotta's 66L is so far what the actual fuck
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the onions.... are rotting....
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>>491676984
Only crusty old ojisans with years of fg expeience are playing this game.
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>>491676984
I dunno bro, what region are you. It might behoove you to go play in the lobby.
If you aren't even getting confirm/denies than something might be wrong like you didn't enable windows firewall access.
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NYOOO
ZOI
DON'T CHOKE
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>"I'm dropping Cag because she sucks" - Wavie
>Wavie today in top 8 of a silver AWT event:
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>>491675374
i NEED to choke to death on draph tiddies
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>>491677270
>also wavie: fH fH fH fH fH fH
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>>491677440
>>491677270
watching his duel vs Xerom right now, holy FUCK cag is a menace while you're cornered
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>>491677270
wavie is more likely to pay her outstanding child support than admit cag is even average.
>issa comfort matchup
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How the fuck am I supposed to escape ABelial's pressure when he can just do ground wave shit into projectile infinitely
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ggs Zoi anon, I still have a lot to learn on the way of the onion, I'll train and maybe get a win or two next time
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I've been away for a long time.

Whats the overall concensus on the Big Meaty Patch? Are we happy? Are we sad? Who's the biggest winner? Who's the biggest loser?
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>>491677728
you have to spotdodge one of them to delay the cooldown on it or you never escape.
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>Xerom do a mega hard call out on Cag's throne
>"uoooooooooh you're so slick wavie but unfortunately charlotta..."
I remember why I hate TNS commentators now.
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>>491676419
U moves enabling RPS situations that lead to extended damage without enough meter gain and meter refund for it to be an ever present issue. SSBAs being available every round.
Actual genuine mix ups instead of a slightly elevated strike throw game.

You have supers in SF6 but levels 1s lose to fireballs and level 3s are generally once a set. Drive meter also sets a genuine pace for the game no matter what. It leads to explosive rounds especially for some characters but if you defend enough eventually the pressure has to let off.

Characters like Abel who I mained before the patch and may stick with are a good example of volatile.

>>491676550
66L doesnt cost meter before we get into drive rush. However agreeing with you some in that with the new characters like Bison, SF6 is closing what little gap I consider it to have had anyways
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>>491677734
ggs
im trying to join lobbies more often at night if you ever want to run more sets
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Holy fuck Xerom stop playing with my heart
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>>491676221
I only watch SF6 and it seems to me that the people that get the first hit in a game will win
Or it's like, game 1 p1 wins and used meter
game 2 p2 instantly uses lvl3 and wins because of drive meter advantage
game 3 p1 wins because he also uses level 3 and has the drive meter advantage
I've seen this happen in quite a lot of top8s
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anyone play wuthering waves
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That's my jobchang
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>>491676550
No character in SF6 instantly wins games the way Grimnir does, or even ABel for that matter. All the big combos in that game require specific starters and often also need a punish counter, while a lot of Rising characters can get some weird hit and bring you to the corner meterlessly then run setplay that BC can't deal with
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ggs neechang
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we play zzz here
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>>491678117
i stopped after a month since i don't want gacha dailies in my life anymore
i liked yinlin and calchudro
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god damn im playing horribly
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where do I go to activate the uncensored metera/zeta setting? Im retarded icant find it
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I don't play Chinese slop
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>>491678256
I started a week ago and I love it so far
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>>491677774
People seem happy with a few outlier changes that are controversial and a couple everyone hates
>biggest winner?
Belial, who got BUFFED for some reason
>biggest lover?
Either Nier who is now forced to play the game sometimes or Yuel who lost her autoparry and had one of her best buttons nerfed because of memes
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>>491677774
we are happy except for belial haters and ferry mains
the damage nerfs to ult starters and 66l/2l starters is very noticable
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>>491678435
System setttings, push up to take you to the very bottom and its under Character Design, you put it on Original.
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Xerom...Nyot like this...
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Mr, this is the granblue fantasy vs general
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>>491678117
Yes. Currently saving cause the current banner is shit.
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>>491678587
>biggest lover
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>>491678231
ggs bubs!
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gg xerom good try
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>>491678049
I can't say I see that nearly as much as implied but I will say that for sure first to the corner almost always loses.
Its a fair argument though, it definitely does happen. However that's not really volatile. Volatile was Soriz winning off a 214U from 50% left because you did anything that wasn't waiting to spot dodge it
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>mihoyo slop
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>>491677921
Yeah, the commentators for Granblue are mostly shit.
The people in charge of UMvC 3 are alright though.
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>xerom getting knocked out of a tournament by a 2h
name a more iconic duo
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fraudlottas deserve it. stop jumping.
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xerom has lost sets to n*zu but no this being a comfort pick would be ridiculous
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bwo your ferry is fucked
take her to the vet
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new player, can someone explain how to tech? as in roll when hitting the floor to avoid silly okis
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>>491678950
wasnt he in winners
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>>491678765
these need to be compiled some of you anons make some fun figure mode posts
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>>491678950
he's in losers now
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>>491679178
You can only backroll and you just press any attack button when hitting the ground
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I can't wrap my head around Zeta idk why
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>>491679302
>>491679186
>these guys dont have future sight
ngmi
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>>491679384
Play her or counter her? Both are very challenging tasks, playing her is probably the harder of the two.
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>>491679408
look bro hes not gonna jump at the vane
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>>491679472
Yeah playing her i was told she's pretty simple but the air juggle and dp moves are a bit fucky to land
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>>491679408
>he has to face a sieg or seox
i guess it is over huh
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>0 luci representation
needs more buffs... im so tired of playing honest low tiers...
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>>491679576
>Yeah playing her i was told she's pretty simple
yeah no

hardest combos
no real DP
normals are below average overall
her counter is one of the most difficult skills to use in the game followed by her spear routes
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is ferry o
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>>491679841
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i look like ferry irl
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>random vane player in top 8
oh but he's bottom 1 right? like come on its not even some established player jfc
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>>491679972
we know, Helios
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>>491679972
Do you also have a sensitive prostate?
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>>491679972
pumping to your posts
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>>491680068
Not sure if I would call Ronnichu "random", he doesn't have a ton of great results afaik but he's been known as one of the best Vanes for a while
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>Vira's 214H is -1 on block, but Versusia's slower buttons cause this to be a disadvantageous situation for her. Her 5L is too slow and her 2L actually gets CRUSHED by Vira's c5L
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>>491679972
You have a pretty back anon
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>>491680068
you're seeing exactly why he's a dogshit character right now though
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I want to KISS Rosetta
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>>491680379
looks like i'm seeing that a top tier being piloted by DNFGAWD TENUREDMULE can still win vs broken ass vane. thank god.
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>>491680375
i can do 12 pull ups in a row! :)
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>>491680426
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>>491680426
where
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Versuisa is a character they should have never added
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Genuine question is the story mode worth reading through at all? Never played the gacha so i have a very barebones understanding is it any good
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>>491681105
No, especially not with the trannyslation it got.
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>>491681105
how much do you like generic shonen story
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wooow two 2bs in top 8.. interesting..
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>>491680839
In the LIPS
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>>491681260
>IN the lips
? ! ?
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>>491681492
Prepositions are hard, please understand...
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>>491681105
It's ok. It doesn't really overload you with too many lore concepts if you're new. Isn't really anything that amazing though
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>>491681529
laugh provoking manlet
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>>491681529
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>>491681105
everything that doesn't involve Lucifaa is a slop
it's fine if you just want to skim through it
EP1 is really REALLY slow tho
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>>491681105
It has it's moments, but it's kind of generic. You unlock stuff, like some really good music, by going through it.
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>>491681105
It's not that interesting if you don't care about the characters at all. There are fun bits here and there though.
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>WHAT IF WE MADE LUCIFER BUT EVEN LESS FUN TO PLAY AGAINST
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I think I fucking despise charlotta now
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>>491682576
who?
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>>491682783
Versusia bitch literally even reuses some of the same animations he has
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I HATE Beatrix
I HATE Embrasque
And I HATE Aya Hirano!
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Thank you for the tournament as usual GolshiTO. Your work is much appreciated.
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>>491682770
Why...
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>>491682914
t. seething bassist
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seox needs kitty noises during his sba/ssba
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>FIghting game gets released
>its fun
>DLC characters drop
>game gets progressively less fun
many such cases. We all know sandy alpha is going to be way overtuned
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>>491682858
the only cancer thing about her is unreactable 214h, but she actually needs it otherwise she'd be unplayable
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it's crazy how inflated the skill level got in this game since launch, 90% of people in S rank now knows how to do optimal BnB's and 50/50 setups, spotdodge raging strikes, anti-air, shimmy and delay tech
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>>491682858
>bitch literally even reuses some of the same animations he has
Like?
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>>491683080
Y-Yeah! That is the reason I can't get out of S+
h-haha...
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>>491682914
I love them.. even if I sometimes hate them...
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>>491682997
spot dodging her spins is pointless and not rewarding even if you read it and is safe on block
demon flip got much more cancer
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>>491683080
That's how every fighting game goes. Casuals and shitters eventually stop playing and the only people left are the people who are really dedicated to the game and want to grind and improve.
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Would you eat your grub wife's poop?
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>>491683142
Her idle for one
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Wow what a surprise another tournament with 0 Lucis in top 8 and when Diaphone tried to use him he got bowflex bodied
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fweeh
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>>491682997
>flesh fang
I love Charlotta but I fucking hate this picture.
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>>491683285
just block them, she loses her turn every time

or SBA/DP them on reaction
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>>491683336
could I say I love her otherwise
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There are so many 2Bs in tourneys, is 2B the next big villain in the agenda after the Nier frauds got sent to McDonald's?
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Helios is on a roll
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>>491683050
I dont care if she is F- tier like Lucifer, its simply not fun to play against. I have an 80% win rate against this bitch and its cancer every single time I see her, which is every game. The character is worthless and is not even any good.
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>>491683336
You don't love her if you wouldn't
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>>491683305
i think this is a pretty
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Lucilius is the new Zeta
paper tiger, no results only theory combos and twitter clips
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Damn, nezumiku placed the same as SQ and Rinna Fugelace. Those are some really strong top players so that's impressive.
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>>491683781
>SQ
>Rinna
>strong
N**u is unironically better
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>>491683080
I thought I'd be happy if I stayed in my rank but now I feel like everyone is way ahead.
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>>491683781
very proud of ourgirls
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>>491683758
In fairness, it hasn't even been a week yet
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>>491683781
All of these are real women
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>>491683450
>just block them
>just anti air her fastest jump in the game
>just check her great 66L
how do i do these at the same time?
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>>491683216
people used to reach master after learning a single Nier combo
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>2b mirror in top 8 after the """"nerfs""""
kekkaroooo
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>>491683941
Nier, Seox and Siegfried were getting results week 1
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>>491683340
-_-
Bed time for me.
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that there hasnt been a single self destruct further solidifies that every 2b player is a faggot.
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literally do not mention my name I got frauded by vas and sieg who are now both bullshit top tiers with really good MUs on cag and I only entered because my friend refused to play fortnite with me until I did. I'm not playing this game competitively until it's actually fucking good.
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>>491684474
they probably didn't even bother to lab it
does it do the same damage as regular super
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>>491684809
caim wouldnt want this
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>>491683050
I hate that I can't tell her moves apart because of all the visual bloat, same as Vas. Add to that the plus frames on everything and I feel like I'm just losing to bullshit.
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>>491684951
want what? I said like 50 things.
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bro just raw SBA from the other side of the screen
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>>491684809
Wavie is in winners finals with Cag sis :)
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>>491684008
>block them
?? block them if you know they're coming, which is when she's at mid range. she loses her turn, you start bullying her with your normals which will absolutely mog hers and she'll be forced to do something risky or to BC to get out
her only threatening one is her U one because it slows down time and allows her to punish some poking tentative
alternatively become a GOD and throw her out of them or something
finally they can be spot dodged but only at certain distances, her L and H ones are basically impossible unless you make a giant prediction, her M and U ones are easier to evade and punish
>anti air
again if she's in advantage it will be hard because she's constantly pestering you with every offensive option she has, if you're bullying her it's very probable she might try to get out and you can swat her out of the air
>66L
use normals
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>>491685192
bro thought he was playing mom ain't no way loool fr
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bubs bwos we are gettin whipped
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>>491685192
He said on his stream it was a misinput
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>>491685283
i literally could not give less of two shits that wavie will pick cag on even matchups vs people who are known to struggle vs the character. you're going to have to try much harder. And look at that. BELIAL VS AN ACTUAL GOOD PLAYER. Dumbass.
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>>491684809
>Sieg
I don't think he's more fraudulent than before
>Vas
You're absolutely right and you're forgiven, fucking piece of shit faggot character lmao
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>>491685548
Sieg is about the same fraudulency as before, yeah. I didn't mean to imply he got any better just that he is still for faggots who have no skill. Vas though got cranked up to 11 when he was already a damn good character. Literally motherfucker just needed one resource in order to snowball out of control and then doesn't ever die and also had crazy ass defense with his ult skills. Now every hole in his gameplan has been patched up and he also has plus frames everywhere for some fucking reason. Actually might be the worst changes of the entire patch IMO, buffing him. Either him or Abel, Abel deserves to be worse, but didn't get buffed as much as Vas, so it's hard to say.
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>>491685541
>BELIAL VS AN ACTUAL GOOD PLAYER.
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>Wavie swapped to Belial
RUMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Is Wavie an actual lag switcher?
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ggs everyone
i jobbed
but i dont mind jobbing to helios
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>>491685865
yeah you don't pick bottom 1 once you have to actually play to win.
>>491686087
oh look one of the retards who tries to act like i'm the weird one
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>>491686367
>bottom 1
Cag is mid-high tier.
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>>491686329
I can only hope to imitate tech such as delayed black spear oki...
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>>491678783
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>>491686329
>not shitting inside the alligator's mouth
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>>491686567
very nice of gran to help charlotta with her poison ivy
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>>491686482
you're a mid-high retard
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>>491686708
BZZZT. Wrong answer. Cag is now high tier.
Be careful what you post next.
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Seeing Bubs performing again makes me wonder, is Bubs a better mid range area control character than mommy? He is more straightforward than her at least.
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>>491686952
Most characters are better at most things than mommy.
Unfortunately she sucks.
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>>491686567
gran is attacking poor defenseless charlotta some one help
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>>491686686
I got poison ivy on my dick before many moons ago
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my mother and ferry fighting again ;_;
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>>491686898
no
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>>491687032
I'm sorry. I remember having chicken pox on my dick so I can kind of understand.
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>>491686558
you might like this one
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2221232191?t=2h7m06s
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What set Xerom off
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>>491687612
what do you mean
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>>491687612
hes in the shitty tournament
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>>491686952
I feel like out of all midrange characters he's the worst one at playing midrange because of bad corner carry, his poke being a special instead of normal, and nobody ever getting hit by the projectile+ult projectile being dogshit. Against other midrange or long range characters he's gotta play rushdown.
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>>491684809
>Vas has a good MU on cag

You can literally teleport his stance and he cant do anything about it.
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>>491687612
w*vie was breaking the rules by using prismatic weapons but the TOs aren't doing anything about it
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>ferry wasn’t allowed to set up gee gees vs mommy cause of le epic neutral skip dash
why do they hate her so much
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>>491688235
*fullscreen lows u*
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They don't hate her
They don't hate her
They don't hate her
They don't hate her
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>>491688235
literally just don't do it unless you're on my block? lmfao. is this what you think makes a bad matchup? when you have to cool it on the usage of a tool? It doesn't hurt his chances of winning at all to just get in with anything except for command walk stance
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the prophecy of the 2h...
it's ... it's coming...
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>>491688873
god save charlotta against characters with a 2h that hits behind them
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>>491688602
It takes options out of neutral or adds more risk reward which helps with mental stack. Which means he's stuck with slower or less safe options against spot dodges.
Yeah thats actually what makes a bad MU, when certain tools get limited or excessive availability due to punish situations.
The U tackle thing was a mistake for Vas though. He never needed that.
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AIEEE THE PROPHECY IS ABOUT TO BE FULFILLED
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thank you TO for hosting
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>>491689148
>>491688873
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Vods tomorrow right?
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>>491678950
fuck
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>>491689043
limitation of a tool doesn't matter if you can just do anything fucking else in order to win, he isn't left without a good gameplan, he just has to get up armor or get meter and then ignore anything i can possibly do with them. This gameplan is VERY easy btw to accomplish. This is like if you said Siegfried loses to cag because she is one of the like 1/2th of characters who can 2U every rekka followup except the parry. JUST DON'T USE IT AND WIN JUST THE SAME WITH ANYTHING ELSE?????
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GGs and thank you for hosting again.
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>>491678950
>>491679408
Kneel
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>>491688231
What about against the rest of the rushdowny neutral skipping cast?
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thank you for hosting!
i had fun
ggs everyone
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>TOs didn't do anything about the prismatic
>lagging during the set
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I don't like seeing Wavie succeed in this game.
Wavie is not a good person.
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Hmmm why is Wavie playing bottom 1 Cag in grand finals against Hava? When he could be playing top 1 Belial instead. Very unusual decision...
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>>491689536
xerom... stop jumping when you're panicked...
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Thanks for playing in the tournament
Here's the VODs for both tournaments

NA: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2233246575
EU: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2233246299

I'll probably post a schedule for September tournaments sometime next week.
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Cag is a bad matchup for Charlotta but honestly after hearing you in stream you really need to calm down, playing with anger won't make you win. You've been literally jumping in his face all the time.
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>>491689636
Thanks for hosting. It was a lot of fun once again. Can you please post the Versusia image? There's so little art of her...
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>>491689598
trying something different for early parts of a set is normal you retard, even these dumb ass commentators could guess that.
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>>491689598
H-hava doesn't know the cag matchup.
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wavie is so nonstop offensive jesus
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>>491689636
Thanks for hosting, and GGs everyone.
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rising is so nonstop offensive jesus
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>>491689314
Thats not untrue, if they have a good gameplan. I havent played the MU since before Vas got buffed and I havent played Vas in months, but it might be worth testing if you can just actually reaction check his tackles with your fH even with the armor. Its very disjointed and multi hitting and armor hits in this game freeze the armored character.
I'm gonna go test it myself out of interest.
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isn't this canonically the guile x bison of granblue?
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>>491689598
nywell... nyou syee...
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>>491689820
You do this when you're on winner's side and have a set to throw away. If you're in loser's bracket absolutely no one throws away a game or two for "info"
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>>491689636
thanks for hosting even if i can never join most of these
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wow what a surprise Lucilius "Top 2" nowhere to be seen
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>>491690023
wavie is just gawdlike
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>>491689636
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please stop replying to him for fucks sake
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>>491689981
Nah tackle is prio 4, even if you hit tackle wins.
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>>491690023
i'm sure you'd know since you spend a lot of time in winner's side grands right?
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>>491689889
that's just the game lil bwo
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This is the first fighting game I've played that has power creep. What the fuck. I thought only MOBAs and gachas had that.

You literally have to drop your character if the patch doesn't buff them enough in relation to the others.
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>>491690139
I miss the doubledown.
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>>491689889
yeah you see her character is very weak
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>>491690405
even when he was playing belial he was basically holding forward the whole time
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Memes aside this is one of the sickest Rising sets I've seen so far
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>>491690390
Name an example
>YUEL
Yuel was garbage already
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>>491690303
>you spend a lot of time in winner's side grands right?
Just as much time as you do
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>>491689636
good shit TO
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>>491690532
bubs is fun to watch
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>>491690275
oh only ex tackle is 4 and clashing with medium gives you a punish but its probably easier to just teleport the tackle. You can also spot the light and get a hefty punish
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HONTO NO TSUBASA YO
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yeah cag is bottom 1
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>>491690563
incorrect.
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>>491689636
お疲れ
いい感じだな
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>>491690390
1) Power creep is pretty normal in fighting games, 2) the game is more balanced than it was last patch and every character is viable, we just had a fucking Vane in top 8 and a Ferry in top 24.
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>>491690597
He really is a neat character to watch and play
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>>491690597
he's a flailing ape shit character, you are a fucking faggot
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the one true king...
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>>491689636
Thanks for hosting! Thanks for playing.
Updated link for anyone who bakes the next thread:
https://pastebin.com/upJNDTtq
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>>491689820
Okay so why did he stick with Cag until the end then?
Fucking clown, kill yourself already
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@Ferryanon
I joked about you coping with Ferry, but for real now. What are your thoughts on her and her changes?
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>>491691027
bubs is a bad mu for belial
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>>491691017
Anon...
I already updated the OP one... I'm still here...
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>>491690539
>>491690815
Try playing any mid or low tier character vs a high tier like Kat. It's not fucking playable. And that's not even talking about the top 5.

>Power creep is pretty normal in fighting games,
No it's not, in SF and Tekken you can always use fundamentals to win no matter the patch.

>every character is viable, we just had a fucking Vane in top 8 and a Ferry in top 24.
Nah, check the crystal counts for low tiers, they are pathetically low. A 4chan meme tournament is not proof of anything, you all pick mains based on pedophilia and porn addiction rather than strength. It's like saying Twitch Rivals top 8 matters.
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>>491691027
yeah the fucking black tranny who walks around with his gut out thinking it makes him a beautiful kween is the arbiter of logic
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How do you guys remember your combos in the heat of the moment? Like I can pull some pretty decent shit if my opponent is not being too aggressive (I know, lol), but if I'm getting pressured even if I find a gap I just kind of go "shit, what was I supposed to do now" and end up losing my turn anyway
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>>491690878
I'm sorry you were born an 80 iq cocksmoker.
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>>491691275
>No it's not, in SF and Tekken you can always use fundamentals to win no matter the patch.
LOL

To use your example: assuming 1.0, try fighting Azucena or Dragunov as fucking Yoshimitsu
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>>491691250
lol
lmao
>>491691287
cope?
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>>491691270
Then why is the link in the op the one I previously posted... and conveniently never got updated to include the last set of tournaments because I was lazy.
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>>491691343
Muscle memory
Also some of them are literally "feeling", sometimes you hit a target out of air and have to pull off a random combo out of nowhere
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>>491691343
its just practice, you get used to it over time. i'm assuming you're pretty new to FGs? don't worry abt it it'll come with time.
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>>491691343
you dont have the gene
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>>491691583
https://pastebin.com/y5xV4pqN
I'm "muttonlady" on Pastebin for further reference.

Well if you want I stop updating it no problem, I'm actually glad someone took the reins by themselves.
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>>491691780
Your link hasn't been in the op for like 30 threads bwo... since you had your demon dick induced melty...
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>>491689657
I jump in reaction to stimuli but I default panic option to it when I don't have time to think and I especially lose my composure when the game starts lagging.
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>>491691879
>since you had your demon dick induced melty...
I didn't notice. Also I returned 2 days later.

But again, glad you guys are self-sufficient.
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>>491691879
>>491692003
You can put it back if you or whoever wants to, I appreciate your efforts regardless. Including the vane clip was a good touch.
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I wasn't tuning in until Top 8 of TNS. Where were the Niers? Did they finally get exposed as frauds or are they still hiding in their hyperbolic time chambers?
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>>491691953
Wavie was lagging? I got here late
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>>491692183
wavie is always lagging
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So did Rein approve of Gran and Djeeta approve of them making a family together after the latest update?
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>>491691343
Practice and experience.
Eventually you learn a characters general combo structure and thats when you can start getting a little custy.
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>>491692183
wavie's net is notoriously shitty
games will run fine and then randomly spike at the worst times. you can especially see it during hava's winner's finals set
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So it's the weekly "pretend Xerom posts in gbfg" hours?
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Rein does not approve of Djeeta's promiscuous behaviour
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>pretends
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>>491691275
>A 4chan meme tournament is not proof of anything
I was talking about TNS. A Vane was in top 8 of the 130 person TNS AWT qualifier event. And a Ferry was in top 24.
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cant believe that xerom imposter got in the karyl stack
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>>491692102
As you prefer, I understand my schizo episode might've made me look unreliable so it's fine. I was genuinely utterly mindbroken by the ballsack.
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>>491691275
>A 4chan meme tournament is not proof of anything
Your whole post is pretty retarded and I'm not answering all the stupid shit, but about this point specifically
Our tournaments are 4fun but they feature very good players
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>>491693178
its ok who here hasn't had a retarded meltdown or two.
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>>491693267
i have one every thread
for a different reason every time
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>>491691650
yeah it's my first fighting game, it just feels bad knowing the response to some things but being unable to perform, but just as the other anons said maybe I'm just lacking practice and experience
>>491691732
no.... it's over....
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Gee I just love Ladiva getting 500 chances to ult lariat up your ass and if at any time one of them connects you just lose the round because they had that faggot character's command grab shit just pure 50/50s this patch
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>>491693267
me in the open lobby
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We had a few new anons in the tournament today, I hope they enjoyed it.
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>>491693740
just spotdodge its not like anything else happens when ladiva does blue shit.
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>>491692153
inochi went 0-2
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B-Bwos...?
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>>491694020
Wow I didn't believe you but you're right. And he actually won a game in his losers set too so he was trying and he didn't just give up.
That is beautiful.
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>>491694231
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>>491689810
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>>491694231
Getting close to Nier and choking her to death
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>>491693904
I did
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>>491694312
I look like this
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>>491694312
uploading to booru what do you want to be credited as
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>>491694437
Based horse enjoyer
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>>491693921
>just react to 16 frames
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>>491694640
its not 16 frames
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>>491692153
To be fair, every serious competitor have hard practiced anti-Nier tech so we should wait and see if Nier mains can develop counterplay now that they have to.
>>491694020
lmao
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Do NOT have sex with your mom
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>>491691249
I think shes in a better spot then what she was at previously. The side swap is especially good for her that gives her a great reward for punishing opponents whiffs/run ins. The IOH damage reduction hurts quite a bit but its not the end of the world, fM/H changes to be air blockable still makes no sense to me it came up a quite a few times in todays tournament and killed her UGG on jump ins cause it would lock them in the air allowing her to hit you but not anymore. Overall good changes that reward patience/good spacing at the cost of some damage. 5U was a weird one too but I can see the application on your opponent guessing right on gg you can 5U on top of it for even more chip while being safe. I like where shes at right now, a zoner should not be very good and currently I think shes at a comfortable B'ish tier? The system chanages to reduce damage on certain things helped her a shit ton too. Im happy.
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>The thoughts running through my head as Mom runs at me at mach 5
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>>491694664
yes it is, look it up
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>>491694312
Based. Thanks!
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>>491695303
Maybe you should look up how ultimate skills work though.
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>>491694312
Do you have the picture with the whole family?
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ngl the TO should put out a catbox with all the images he makes they are so good
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I block all Anre players, you faggots deserve to play with no one other than each other
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>>491696076
disgusting seox fingers typed this post
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Tips on how to disable jumping? I know I jump too much but I keep doing it when I panic.
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I literally cannot stop masturbating to ferry
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>>491695595
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>>491696290
Ummmm, that is not good for you anon.
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>>491696829
you made this and let it only as a small png in the corner of the stream and i doubt you'd have posted it had someone not asked
You truly have the soul of an artist
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>>491696829
nice thanks
very cute
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Stop sexualizing ghosts
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>>491696829
But Gran and Djeeta aren't brother and sister in the normal way. They're what happens when I wish I had a female version of myself to help me masturbate at night.
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there's this image of Ferry spreading her ass
but i dont feel like eating a vacation for it
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How can you not love her?
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>>491696829
I wonder if the flashback of her SSBA finish win against Gran or Djeeta is moddable with this instead
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>>491697917
Well, Sieg's is
So hers should be
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>>491696829
SOVL
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>>491697957
Why is Momo looking at the camera like that
Nice Ferry skirt
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Does anyone still use stick in this doggy dog world?
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>>491698294
Momo always looks kinda creepy desu
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>>491698359
No it's a leverless and pad world
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>>491697957
Alright, fine. I'll save a Ferry image.
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>>491697692
link it instead
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If you were forced to choose one character to squat over your face and squeeze out an immense log of the foulest smelling shit, who would it be?
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>>491698579
>>491697914
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>>491698579
Sorry sonic_sol but I am not going to tell you the answer is Vira.
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>>491698579
I want to know the reason why you would ask something like this
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>>491698551
Thank you for your cooperation!
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anyone got the golshi mod link
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>>491698579
Metera has experience on it
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The patch was a step in the right direction but there's so much more that needs to be done and Cygames likely is going to be too late even if they don't give up and tank the costs
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I do not know what they did to the network code in the big meaty but I finally get a consistent 100ms and 1 - 2 rbf with my friend when it was 300ms and 6 rbf before.
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>Try to do stagger offense
>They mash
>Try to frametrap
>They block everything
>Go for a grab
>They tech
>Go for a delay frame trap
>They still block
>For for a grab bait
>They block it
>Go for another grab bait
>They mash out
>Grab again
>They tech
I give up, opening people up in this game is fucking impossible
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>>491699223
The game is what it is.
They're never going to delete 66L and ult skills. If you don't like the game now then you never will.
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>>491699397
I've given up on playing any character that doesn't have an auto throwbait. The game is fucking awful without one.
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>>491699397
When I get frustrated about great defenses, I give up and just run up delay DP.
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>>491699802
My character doesn't have a DP
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>>491696139
Eternalfriends love each other though
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>>491699930
my condolences
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>Told myself I was only going to play this game a little bit today
>Played literally all day, lost net 200 diamonds and now I hate the game and myself and legitimately started having murder fantasies about the people I was playing against
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>suck ass at opening people up and lose because of it
>start playing Ladiva more
>passive faggots shit their pants as they get the driver
>go on a 20 game winstreak
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>>491700354
have goon fantasies instead
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>>491700423
>Ladiva player
blocked
I hope you enjoy only getting matched up vs the zoners and belial faggot
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>>491700354
rape kots
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Why are the top level players so disingenuous
>Bro just heckin play and enjoy the game bro like just play more and heckin have a positive mindset even when you lose
Yeah easy to say that when your winrate is above 80% you fucking disingenuous hopium peddler fucking shills just looking to inflate your content numbers
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Who do I have to contact inside Arc Sys/Cygames to have SF6 framedata graph officially integrated?
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>>491700354
-Karl
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>>491700508
shake my hand
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At the end of the video he drops to S rank
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>>491700652
You can tell FKHR next time he travels abroad.
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There's nothing more frustrating than when the offense that you do that doesn't work against anyone is literally unbeatable when it's done to you. Actually makes me want to kms
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>>491698359
Yes. My fightstick.
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>Neutral jump
>Vira uses U.Neutral Skip after I do
>"Haha get baited bitch"
>She can punish me for jumping
I
Hate
This
Fucking
Game.
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Why does everyone say ranked isn't good for getting better when it's literally best 2/3? It's not like you're playing 10 fucking games/long ass sets in tourney other than GF reset
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>>491701084
it was purple last time damnit
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>>491701154
oh the buttons?
yeah I switched them to GF buttons when I changed it from the sanjuks v5 to the v6 because the GF buttons weren't in stock when I first first put it all together
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>>491698558
https://files.catbox.moe/cbzf7x.jpg
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>>491701149
this is how you get buttfucked by a lowain on team assfuckers.
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>>491701149
longs sets let you experiment and learn matchups better, it lets you practice more while also having another person adapt to your play, forcing you to also adapt
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>>491701543
you aren't going to have time to adapt in a tournament, it's 2/3
>and learn matchups better,
It's the same 6 faggots in ranked at any hour of the day on the same 6 fucking characters this is non-issue
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>>491701014
>>491700650
>>491700354
can't help but imagine you as pic rel
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>>491701693
which is why tournaments should be 3/5.
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>>491700354
who hyurt nyou
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Here's your Season 2 guest character, bro.
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>>491702148
pro players mostly, that was when the tilt started
after that the shitters smelled blood and started fucking me up too
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>>491702160
ASSLESSUKA?
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>>491702340
we can imagine together and with enough of us we can will it into existence.
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Have they added my wife Vikala yet? And if not, why the FUCK not.
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>>491702378
Better?
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I despise combo limit. In fact I despise the multitude of wrong decisions that make up this god damn game. Why the fuck did I let the big meaty trick me into thinking anything is different in any significant way.
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>>491702616
That filthy rat has been plaguing the lobby screens doing her terrible dance
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>>491702862
I love my rat wife almost as much as I love my tiny huge titty wife, Yaia.
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>>491702831
Combo limit is one of the best decisions they made regarding this game. It can be improved though, it should start counting LITERALLY the moment a combo starts, grounded hits should contribute less combo limit points than juggling opponents in the air, but they should count nonetheless.
Also, there should be a better, clearer indicator of combo limit, well before you are even nearing the limit.
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>set gets laggier the closer i am to winning
yeah, no
blocked nigger, fuck off
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>>491703082
This. You see a lot of people dropping combos midway because of combo limit even in tournies. It might turn a winning game into a losing one because of a whiff.
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>>491702808
nyo go back
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>>491703206
It's in your head bro
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>>491703360
Back where?
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>>491703392
flatter
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>>491703082
Yeah it needs to be better. Killer Instinct has an indicator guage for when hitstun will run out and that should honestly be the genre standard.
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>>491703686
this but 2b players instead of belial players
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Back?
Yeah, baby got back
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Heh pretty impressive eh Narmaya Anons? Yeah? I felt the dragon blood flow through my veins to call out her SS+ tier ult move
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>>491703556
That's not how Nikke devs feel...
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I swear to god playing against Bea as bubs is the most cancer inducing shit in the universe
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>>491704134
grauss
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my win rate finally dropped below 20% lets go
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>>491704517
good shit anon once you reach the bottom its only up from there
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>>491697213
Why?
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Finally in the mood to job on ranked, and there's no one here.
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>>491705160
neechangs lopsided nipple
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>Lost a close set to someone in the lobby
>The game crashes as we exist to it looks like i RQ'ed
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>>491705613
They will think you're a loser forever
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>>491703686
Posts you can hear
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If they nerf the fuck out of 66L then this game will be very close to having very good balance overall in comparison to most current fighters and I say that unironically. The game is good but 66L borderline ruins it, it's like the drive rush of granblue. Every character will always want to 66L like a cunt retard because it's free approach, free plus frames, no recovery frames on whiff, free combo, free everything. It's really fucking stupid and they are trying so fucking hard to keep it that way for some reason.
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>>491705613
I hate that shit. I don't think that I've ever had a crash or DC when I was winning, only when I was losing.
The worst one was when my internet just died the second that someone 2H counterhit me so it looks like I just instantly alt+F4'd the guy.
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Is Yuel the kind of girl to say meowdy ya'll unironically?
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>New to game
>Pick up Eustace
>Don't know how to get anything off of anything and I need people crouching to actually combo into the fucking H grenade
Man I'm just gonna play Ladiva or something instead, people just walk up to me and do combos they don't need to fill in an entire fucking checklist
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>>491706263
ITSU RABU
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>>491703686
>the post was so based it had 2 tournaments based off of it
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>>491705160
smallchang
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Katalina is actually fucking gross to fight against this patch.
You aren't fooling anyone, whiffing buttons from half screen away while buffering specials isn't fucking neuch.
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>forgot the tournament was today
fugg
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>>491707420
Did you at least have sex instead?
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kizzingtons
I'm taking a shid for the second time today
it's diarrhea
my asshole hurts this isn't gawdlike at all
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>>491707420
What tournament?
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>same top 3 for na tournament
you gotta step it up kizzies.
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>>491707337
Katalina is harmless in a game with Belial, 2B and Beatrix
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>>491708025
What a dumb fucking argument. What race are you?
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>>491708360
Harvin
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>>491708448
Why are you guys like this?
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Granblue Fantasy doesn't really have races they have nebulous humanoids, sentient bioweapons and ancient celestials
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>>491708448
This you?
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>>491708945
yes
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>>491708945
Why are Harvins like this
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>>491707337
She really isnt lol. She's got a very effective neutral but she isn't doing anything scummy brother.
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>>491709739
>neutral
There's that word again...
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>>491709739
Having corner to corner carry is pretty scummy
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Lucifrauds deserve the rope
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>>491709854
nia can do it too!
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>>491709898
They are god damn everywhere now.
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>>491709739
t. fraudalina main
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>>491709854
Most the cast has that now. She's still working with an ok fireball, a pretty fast but not very threatening tackle, and a shield that can be beaten by canceling buttons into specials. It has one layer of armor.
I don't know how shitty you want her to be but she better get some reward for winning neutral considering what other characters can scam you out with
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>>491710063
Literally have never touched her. She's level 1 on my account.
I can just not get angry or hyperbolic because a character went from being a complete pushover to being actually functional in a game
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Bruv is losing it over a basic shoto in the same game with speedo angel and ORKAAAAAAN oh my days bruv
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the pedialyte aint helpin kizzingtons
dark times ahead
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what are 2bs bad matchups?
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>>491710397
another 2b
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>>491707420
I forgot to sign up, forgot the tourney, got invited to a Final Fantasy concert, and then remember abou t the tourney today.
Concert was fun, some people came wearing cosplay.
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>>491710369
It's time to fall asleep on the toilet Kizzington remember to drink plenty of water and electrolytes
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>Bea guesses right on my knock down pressure without failure
>DPs my last instant meaty, wake up c.L's my block
>EVERY FUCKING TIME
I am going into a gorilla rage
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>>491710516
my day today
>6am - restream Mogra anniversary ad-free
>3pm - Start streaming Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 Movie 2, still restreaming Mogra for another hour and a half or so
>5pm - Have a little break, start streaming 08th MS Team, break in the middle
>11pm - Finish that
>1am - don't take nap like I was planning, start watching an idolm@ster live
>2am - Mogra day 3
I was planning on playing some grubble today...
Hell, I have work tomorrow...
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>>491711187
nvm we rematched and I fucked her up in like 10 seconds now I feel better :3
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>>491696829
Where is the big sister though?
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I just played against that Vira some anon has a vendetta against
Xhir really is a retarded gorilla lol
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>>491711938
in heaven
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>Jitta gets a Kokkoro color scheme
>Gran doesn't get an Aruji-sama color
What a waste.
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>>491711938
Being kept at bay with a restraining order
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>>491711938
Locked away in a seismic proofed thermonuclear vault facility hidden somewhere deep within Nevada never to see the light of day or the surface air again
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kizzingtons I have an ingrown toenail and its like red and when i push on it yellowish puss comes out. I've been trying to trim off the part growing into my toe for a few days but I don't know if it is working despite it relieving the pain every time I try.
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Gonna be real with you Kizzingtons, i haven't seen my legs since i was 14.
That's not gonna stop us tho, we getting out the house with these baller a*s setups!
*orders fast food before queuing up*
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>>491712636
kizzington the problem is usually further than you can trim, atleast without really hurting yourself.
go to a podiatrist and have them remove it. if you got pain and pus its already time.
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Belial back at being the most broken character is nostalgia kino bros.
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>>491712903
we finally won vanillabros
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>>491712636
>>491712747
Daz Gawdlike
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>>491713042
Show me the replays I want to write down what you did that was so mindblowing
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To be honest, being a bully isn't cool.
You don't know who is on the other side, maybe sometimes they have a shitty life and they're just trying to have fun, or maybe they have a normal life but having a shitty day. Maybe they have some disability, maybe they just don't care. There's nothing to be gained by being judgemental.
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>>491714127
kizzie and his snack
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>>491714127
is this what they meant by kizzie wants a brownie
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>>491714127
Kizzie NO!
He isn't food!
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Queue for GraBatto
Please
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>>491714497
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>>491714497
a-anon... it's 2:40 am...
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>>491714625
It popped!
And I just jobbed at lasers...

>>491714553
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Just won another Bruise. God people fucking suck as at lasers now that they can actually kill you.
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>>491715253
NYOOOO at this rate I will literally never win a Bruise...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flxQNlcBIb0
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>>491715092
I guess I know where all the players are now
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>>491715308
sheep!
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>>491702340
So pros fucked you up, and because of that shitters fucked you up? Are you sure you're not just one of the shitters little bro?
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>>491715253
It's actually difficult to win when you're not from NA. I keep getting hit despite properly timing my jumps, and the lag is quite inconsistent.
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I am only playing this shit heap because I feel "invested" due to the money spent on previous battle passes during my rose-tinted goggles phase. You got me good FKHR. What a terrible game.

https://youtu.be/0EvjAxVZqcI?si=2JwX_ObtLrA5LNep
Here's a real fighting game if anyone else wants to wistfully gaze at what could have been, were we born 10 years earlier. Notice the air tight neutral, the meaningful defensive options, the difficult combo execution, the knowledge required to navigate yours and your opponents characters, the reasonable damage for longer games with more actual gameplay, the absolute hype. Grub will never be an anime fighter- this trash is modern day fightan slop through and through.

Granblue was my first fighting game, and I feel like my virginity was stolen by a vapid whore.
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>>491709029
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>>491715818
Fuck off retard.
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>>491716024
I can't make you see, you choose to bury your head in the ground. Such is the way of the grub.
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GBVSR does suck but so does every current fighting game there's something broken within the genre despite being healthy again
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>>491716280
It is """healthy""" (should probably just say "active" really) precisely because fighting games have been watered down and changed into something more palatable for a broader audience, and lost important things in the process.
This is likely the last generation of fighting games that I'll be able to stomach. KoF XV was the closest to old fighting games available on the market this decade, Rising is clearly modern but it has a lot of things that I enjoy and it's fun to play, the good clearly outweighs the bad.
SF6 is already more than I can tolerate. It's ugly as shit and the gameplay is ugly too.
I'm somewhat hopeful for CotW.
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>>491712636
Just walk it off.
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>>491715818
didn't read but das gawdlike
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>>491715818
Read every word, man's spittin' faks
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Ratslut when
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It's fucking stupid that all of Abels projectiles dont go away if you hit him. Instead you can pierce through them and you still take more damage than him since his absorbed some of your hits. Metera cant even crouch under with her fireball while deleting the low one since she rises up and still gets hit by the other one.
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>>491717680
October which is surprisingly quick coming from August 20th they might want to be launching season 2 by December
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>>491717820
Anon no projectile will dissapear if the user is hit. Wyell except for Gee Gee
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>>491717910
All setplay things will disappear when hit, right? Cog's traps and Gee Gee are both considered setplay. Death too, I guess.
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im back from dawntrail wtf did they do to yuel
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>>491718617
Metera's butterflies stay but that's not really setplay like the others.
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i need some hopium for versusia
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>>491718753
Not enough brat is annoying to fight
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>>491713492
>Newcutie hunting faggot charlottaanon disliked this post
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>>491718753
total fox death
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>>491711984
Rinna?
Xer is like the representive of all Vira mains in the world
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>tako playing sieg now
it's over...
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fuckin Gamera and Tororo. I gotta do everything around here myself
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>>491719025
Yes but refer to this
>>491713492
especially if you are the anon who is obsessed with zhir
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>>491719384
different anon bwo
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>>491719556
i see, pay no mind them
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>>491719102
based tier whore chad. The only jappa left with a brain
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>>491719384
>Anon is obsessed with another obsessed anon
>Thinks he is better somehow
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>>491720046
Yes. I want to have sex with him.
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Is IBURIS a setplay kind of projectile?
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I love how you can spotdodge a BC and then not even get a jab punish. this game is so shit and braindead
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>>491720204
i think it can kinda do everything
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>>491720301
Play Kat or Uno
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>anticipate a 66L so I f.M
>get hit
>anticipate a 66L so I 2M
>get hit
>anticipate a 66L so I f.L
>get hit
>anticipate a 66L so I 2L
>get hit
>anticipate a 66L so I spot dodge and throw
>either I get counterhit or the opponent techs the throw
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
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>>491720621
66L them first
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Theyre swarming ferry
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Grand Master having a special matchmaking announcement makes the current Grand Master scheme even more ridiculous desu
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>>491721019
i think it looks kinda tacky
they could have done a better job
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>>491720621
66L is priority 2, so it will beat jabs and trade with mediums while being pretty active.
It loses to lows but its risky. That being said, spotting it should give you your turn unless you did it super late.
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>>491721473
>fastest low that isn't L has a 10 frame startup
Guess I'll just die then
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I wonder what a Granblue version of pic rel would look like
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knock knock sweetie let me past your block.
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>>491720621
play luci
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>>491720621
just do 66l before they 66l you
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>>491720621
the entire game is that one move, and BC. so you better start slopping, son
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reminder that Vira is SMELLY and MENTALLY ILL
Niia is not smelly because she will shower for (You) on request
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speaking of Vira does anyone have a good CH anti-air combo?
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>>491722891
Isn't Vira quite literally a noble?, i can't imagine a noble being smelly, Niaa looks like she smells and kills one of her hamsters every time someone is mean to her
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>>491689636
Thanks for hosting, TO
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>>491722891
Vira has an army of maids bathing her daily and also relieving her lust.
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>>491696829
Godbless
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>>491722891
>ask Nier to take a fucking shower because her beaver stank can be smelled in a 15km radius
>she interprets this as me not loving her
>which leads her to think either I cheated, am cheating or will cheat on her and dump her
>she murders me in my sleep
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What are the odds of Cupitan making it into season 2
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>>491724149
Niia in lore literally gargles nonstop about how she would do anything you want as long as that means you love her
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Nier beaver stank... mmm...
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Vira still sucks. I sleep
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>>491724335
People with BPD are not very consistent m8, what they say and what they do is often contradictory.
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>>491724149
>in my sleep
She will do it right then and there, why wait?
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>>491724473
We'll just go swimming often then, problem SOLVED CHECKMATE VIRAFAG
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>>491724373
You have no clue how utterly disgusting is the smell of a female with poor hygiene
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>>491723625
She's Albion's very Lord Commander but that traveling maiden knight may have our liege acting UNWISE if I do dare say so
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>>491724280
Zero nigga. She's far too recent to even consider putting her in the game.
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Is Yuel dead?
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>>491724847
No
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Is ferry dead?
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>>491724847
She seems to be pulling more results than pre patch
All the Yuelposters itt committed suicide though
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>>491724847
Yes
>>491724982
Also yes
Off with those rabid animals
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>>491724606
Ilsa knockoff.
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>>491724982
Yeah
she's a ghost
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWt_3COaN1Q
>basically says to spam safe specials till lvl 5 and then chip or explode the opponent when one of them hits
why are you not playing this cheap character?
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Why are erune so lewd
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>>491725108
my wife Nier
>>491724606
my wife Nier
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>>491724606
>swimming
Nigga, you're getting drowned...
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mmmm sex caim
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>>491725306
How dare you insult Ilsa like that!
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>Be Kosame
>Top 3 lance in the world
>Get smoked by gamera every time they bump into each other on ranked
>Patch nerfs Lancelot
>Bumps into gamera again
>Yabai.mp3
Kekmao Kosame is hilarious
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>>491724378
>Vira still sucks
not enough
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>>491724740
Nier is an Erune
Poor hygiene on female Erunes intensifies their pheromones
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>>491725216
Because I do not like playing homo characters. I will either play cute and or hot girls or I will play Soriz because he is as close as we can get to Master Asia.
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>>491725418
>Gamera on Djeeta
Next tourney when? Can't wait for that Djeeta 5U downplayer to get btfo'd.
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>>491725216
this guy seems braindead easy now. should I switch from cog
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>>491725418
his avatar is funny
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>>491725586
>gamera dickslurper
anon he's just a ranked fraud these days get on with the times grandpa
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Is Narmaya worth the trouble to learn? Like is she at least top tier if I bother with her stance and combos or should I just pick someone else
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>>491725345
he doesn't even secrete pheromones
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BC shouldn't...put Desu on cooldown...
Hitting Desu shouldn't...put her on two separate cooldowns...
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>>491725709
>dickslurper
No, but he is the best Djeeta and when he actively uses 5U, I can shove my dick down that downplayer's throat
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reminder that gamera shit the bed so hard picrel had cancel his vacation plans and unretire early
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>>491725803
NTA but jita legit lost more than she gained this patch and you are a fucking retard if you can't recognize this
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>reminder tha-
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>>491725654
your tranny brain is too dead even for him, stick to your training wheels character
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>>491725798
>>491725843
>tako switched to sieg
it's over for nier
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>>491725923
Where did I imply that current Djeeta is better than pre-patch Djeeta you illiterate moron?
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>>491725803
>gamer
>best djeeta
nigga didn't get the memo did he? Grandpa he moved on he only plays bea now. You misspelled goenitz
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>>491725958
and who do you play?
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>>491725770
yes he does, all little boys do.
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>>491725981
Makes sense, Sieg is just so dreamy
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>>491725991
wasn't that what you were screaming about with the other anon the other day? How her amazing 5U makes her gawdlike or some shit idk, while the other anon kept calling you a retard because he was seething about the loss of his degenerate jita shit
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which faggot at arcsys thought that buffing 2B was a good idea?
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>>491712143
Jeeter is in Priconne
Gran is not
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>>491725216
The amount of times this nigger just throws out 22H and the opponent just eats it like a deer in the headlights is insane
JPs must be really shit because in NA that shit gets BC'd or 2Hd/DPd/Spot dodged on reaction every time
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>>491726297
the same faggot at arcsys who thought buffing gran djeeta katalina charlotte lancelot percival ladiva metera lowain ferry zeta vaseraga narmaya soriz zzoi uno eustace seox vira Beelzebub belial(s) anila Siegfried grimmnir luci and vane was a good idea
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>>491726140
That was me, but I never said that she was better, just that 5U was a bullshit move now. Then he, and now you, both seemed to interpret that as me saying she's overall stronger now.
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Katalina deserved the buffs
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>>491726723
And now she deserves to get nerfed
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>>491726618
nobody likes losing overall character strength only to get one scam move as compensation. Who the fuck do you think we are, narmaya mains?
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>>491726798
She's a straightforward shoto that's finally functional cry about it
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>>491725216
He makes it look easy because he only posted matches where he won but its still pretty easy to get run over as Luci
I did realize earlier today though after my big meaty loss streak that the best way to play him now is to just never take unnecessary risks especially because BC ends your offense immediately
Like for Luci getting your opponent in the corner isn't even some massive advantage because your damage in the corner isn't even significantly higher than your midscreen - you'd rather just keep your standard spacing
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>>491726813
Again, I never said anything about Djeeta's overall strength this patch, just that 5U is fraudulent shit now.
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>>491726813
Getting a viable throw bait option in this game is a huge compensation
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>belial player ragequits against my yuel
lmao how pathetic do you have to be to ragequit after losing a bottom 1 vs top 1 matchup
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>>491727070
>lose H rekka wall bounce
>lose wall carry
>lose cooldown cycling
>lose 125 routes
>lose 236U utility and routes
>214U became suicide on block
in exchange you get something bea and narmaya already had on a M/H skill respectively.
Ult throw baits like rock smash scammaya flip what have you are much better than 5U which requires a charge because you don't have to slow down your gameplay to work for them. It's on deck all the time unlike 5U which on block means you have to figure out how to get another charge.
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>>491726003
grimnir
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>>491725216
He basically never does auto combo pressure shit huh
I'll have to remember that
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>>491727464
lolkekmao
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>>491727070
At high levels this game is 70% strike and 30% throw. Djeeta had her strike/punish game nerfed and her throw game buffed. It's that simple.
She lost in this patch.
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>>491727442
>lose H rekka wall bounce
do one less hit nigga
>lose wall carry
do one more hit nigga
>lose cooldown cycling
lie
>lose 125 routes
everyone did, now you don't do less damage than everyone.
>lose 236U utility and routes
???
>214U became suicide on block
only in the corner for a THROW PUNISH
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>>491726343
He seems to use 22L and 22M way more, that probably helps.
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>>491725017
Like what? Paragon always has literally who players slugging it out in top 8 because most weeks no one decent enters. Meanwhile both the #1 and #2 Yuel players in the world are done with their coping now and want the old version back:
>https://twitter.com/sukashinage1/status/1827373651962032462
>https://twitter.com/ittsuu730/status/1825844422820639102
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>>491721687
So little secret, but after someone does a running attack, theres a forced delay before they can move forward for a few frames. So you can challenge mix ups on 66L by delay lights. If they blockstring you'll get your turn one way or the other.
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>>491727779
>do one (less) (more) hit 4head
one doesn't get you a combo one does, you fucking retard.
>lose cooldown cycling
H Rekka (2) doesn't buy you enough time for another full combo blender if the opponent mashes on wakeup. DP won't be up in time
>lose 125 routes
Djeeta relied on this more than most of the cast you fucking retard, characters who don't have them or have unpractical ways of getting 125 are obviously less affected
>236U
got shit on by system changes targeted at Zeta
>A back throw punish into losing the corner is not horrific enough for you somehow
retard
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>>491725017
She isn't and she's awful now. Having to manually input a punishable parry and for compensation she lost her best attack out of stance was way to much.
She has to make so many high risk decisions for basically low reward now. So she's stuck playing very standard with her sub par neutral and average damage with no real threatening gimmick.
If they want this version to be good, they need to make stance improve frame data on buttons and specials so that it presents some actual threat to the opponent.

Think of it like this, lets say you press now on wakeup and I parry. I get a little damage, lets say I didnt parry, you get a full combo.
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>>491727779
Not gonna argue with you anymore. If I wanted to debate shitters I would go to reddit for that.
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>>491728019
The extra delay is only on cL > 66L, everything else works as normal. What you're talking about is pressing on the 7f gap between 66L > 66L, which is what allows you to challenge it.
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>>491728097
would you like to name said system changes targeted at zeta?
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I will give a win to wam
IN THE ANUS
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>>491728019
Also after close light and 2L theres a delay on running forward as well. To prevent unfun turn stealing over and over
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>>491728272
Yeah thats right. Its still not clearly conveyed in game.
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>ferry anon actually did the ed combo in the tournament
that has to be one of the few actual cool looking combos in the game
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>>491728458
zeta combos are cool..
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Ia am slightly tispysy
should I pick lunalu with a few chracaters to pick my new main
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>>491728335
Ult damage scaling for one. Like zeta djeeta relies on multiple ults in her optimal routes
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>>491728510
LMAOOOOOO
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>>491728510
>ARRRRBBEEEJJJ XDDD
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versusia has too many annoying negatives
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bwos... i thought gbvsg told me he was a jobber?
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>>491729852
>Loses 2-0
>Goes next ranked match
>Yabai.mp3 again
Poor Kosame can't escape him lmao
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when am I allowed to play the game against a beatrix?
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>>491730580
>play the game
hmmmmmm.........nyoooooo......
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I forgot about this
maybe if I updated it for the new characters I'd be able to pick who tides me over to rat a little easier.
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why is literally everybody refusing to match with me in ranked?
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>>491730736
>THE WOLF INSIDE ME that low
>percy's theme that high
Shit taste
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GBVSR is already nearly <50 viewers
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>>491730804
Match or rematch? If it's a match then you probably got blocked by a lot of people, who do you play?
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haven’t played in 2 months, is ladiva still shit?
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>>491731042
He was never bad
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>>491730804
get better ping bro
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>>491731042
combo damage is slightly worse command grabs are massively buffed. Medium and heavy spd now carry the opponent half screen
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>>491731034
i'm a grimchad myself
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>>491731031
that's nice.
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>>491730580
L rider kick is your turn
all slides are your turn
M slide has frametrap followup
non-yellow fireballs are your turn
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>>491731126
Rank? If you're decent in S+ or below, chances are that you got blocked.
And rightfully so.
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>>491731095
my ping is like 80 and people refuse the match button
>>491731226
S4
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>>491731283
B.l.o.c.k.e.d
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are grapplers even viable in a game with autocombos and instant reversal???
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>grimnir
Mom get the frying pan
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>”N-Nier players just need time to adapt, you’d have worse results too if you were suddenly forced to play a different character…”
Diaphone already won a tournament with a week 1 brand new character no one has ever played before.
Any Nier player who used to get top 8s and is now getting shat on was carried, simple as.
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>>491731456
>grapplers
>plural
Ladiva and...?
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>>491727442
>lose H rekka wall bounce
That IS a nerf, but not as huge as you think. You still can get your corner combo from almost midscreen from 2U > 623H. 66L > c.MMM will give you enough margin to get there anyway.
>lose wall carry
You now use 214U for the wall carry + wall bounce on a confirm, which is already a much saner approach. Most of her wall bounce routes still exist because of that.
>lose cooldown cycling
Probably. You still have U Skills and RS to launch them until you get your cooldown.
>lose 125 routes
I told you. 125% combos were fraudulent. Random 214U was retarded in terms of risk/reward. It was either being -4 or get almost 11k damage.
>lose 236U utility and routes
236U was barely touched aside of damage. It still can be used to fish for delay tech, still gives wall bounce on counterhit and is still plus at close range.
>214U became suicide on block
It's also safe midscreen. Don't use it in corner, that's it. If you really need that wall bounce, 236U basically does the same thing on CH at a slightly closer ranger.
>you have to figure out how to get another charge
5U can be charged after most corner combo, it's not an issue at all. You can even throw bait them while charging in front of them. You're plus on block after using it anyway so you get to maintain your pressure. You can also charge for free if you see that your opponent wants to turtle and is running away.

Besides, she also got new routes from M Rekka on CH and charged Reginleiv on CH which aren't negligible. It's not like only 5U was buffed. I'm not saying random shit just to cope. Just fucking look at Gamera gameplay against Kosame. You can find everything I said above. Am I saying that she's stronger now? Not necessarily.
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>>491731456
Grapplers and “instant reversals” have coexisted in the same game since at least Super Turbo, my friend
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Yuel is massively buffed against any player that isn't shit. Her old pressure was completely fake once people knew you could just sit there during her entire stance and she could do absolutely nothing to stop you.
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>>491731585
Katalina
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>>491731585
i was talking about this game but also any future game like this one
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>>491731685
ah yes, super turbo 2, a game where grapplers are viable
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>>491731662
RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE MY WALLBOUNCE ON REKKA RRRRREEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I DON'T WANT TO THINK I WANT TO AUTOPILOTE INTO RANDOM POKES AND BUFFER MY REKKA RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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ACCEPT ME NYOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>491731201
>your turn
nice propaganda
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>>491730804
maybe cuz you're a frogposter
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>>491732267
Blocked
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>>491731662
>You now use 214U for wall carry and bounce
What a waste of 50 meter to achieve something that was free previously
>125% combos fraud
214U was an extremely consistent starter on whiff punish, dp punish, shimmy tech punish. None of these are yolo fraud and it was how 214U was used in non shitter games. 236U was used as a read to catch delay and its also not a yolo move.
>236U was barely touched outside of damage
So the reward got gutted but its fine according to you
>Its safe midscreen
It also gives nothing midscreen what the fuck is this logic
>5U
Ult throw baits don't need to rely on anything you just play your game and you get your meter for it. What part about this do you not get? Skill based throw baits like bea M divekick or narm H cresent is even more fraud not requiring meter or charge at all
>M rekka
Who gives a fuck
>Charged fireball ch starter
30f startup mmyaas

What the fuck. Seriously.
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If they fixed Yuel's dogshit counter that they nerfed into the ground while changing she would actually be good.Instead she isn't allowed to use her stance at all against an opponent with a multihit reversal or 100 meter.
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>>491732658
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>>491730580
When she does the ex dive kick thing on block you can roll the dive part and get some space at -1
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>>491731701
>Yuel is massively buffed against any player that is shit
Overhead is a casual meme, you have be really bad at the game to think she got buffed
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>>491731701
As opposed to now where she has a punishable OH will zero reward on hit and you can DP any option she does forcing her to guess with an extremely punishable parry?
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>>491732834
why did they do it?
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>>491732798
She still wouldn't be able do shit off the overhead and her damage would still be dogshit. She was barely viable pre-patch solely because of s5M reward and it's gone now too, along with some of her L DP combo routes and the half-screen corner carry anti-air into 66H combo routes.
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Where can I watch yesterday's AWT vod?
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>>491733151
if the ssba hit ferry would the ball have gone away?
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>>491733251
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2233074948
I'm assuming you're talking about this.
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>>491733421
>bubs won
what in tarnation
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>>491733421
Thanks bro
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>>491732889
>>491731201
ok but do I actually ever get to punish anything?
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>>491733151
Personally, I always go for dumb shit in desperate situations because there's a small chance that it might work.
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Zooey gives zero fucks about Versusia's anti air
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>>491733605
You gotta spot dodge and stuff her.
She's an offensive based character and a gorilla to boot, winning is about having a strong defense game with good punishes. Sometimes that's how it is
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>>491733642
nobody gives a fuck about that special move
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anyways my winrates are so inconsistent one moment i'm perfecting people then i lose 8 matches in a row? great mystery anyways here's my average gameplay
https://youtu.be/uydem6RrEd0?si=JqzSaKKCXB4c-Uxl
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My whore wife Metera
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>>491733863
>that title
bwo..
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>>491733867
That's just Erune "culture"
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>>491733965
One day Zooey will learn their culture
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>>491733605
H slide and U slide are punishable on block
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>>491734309
Onion wife Zoi...
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It's so over

Yuel-sama... How will we be able to bully the nier-tards now??
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>>491733605
LMH slide followups are -12
yellow and U slide are -6
yellow rider kick has gap for DP/SSBA
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>watch my replays
>I actually play even better than I thought I did, I just have a few things to clean up with regards to matchup-specific interactions
It feels so nice to realize that you’re actually clean with it
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>>491732750
>What a waste of 50 meter
Meter is almost free in this game
>214U was an extremely consistent starter on whiff punish, dp punish, shimmy tech punish
Yes, now you'll have to whiff punish with your normals, DP punish with 66H and you have 5U as an alternative to shimmy. Crazy to think that one move can't do everything now huh?
>So the reward got gutted but its fine according to you
Everyone got gutted, and it's a good thing. The game went from 2-touch to 3-touch instead because of that nerf. It also incentivizes finding riskier openings for better rewards. No, 236U isn't risky.
>It also gives nothing midscreen what the fuck is this logic
You're still safe when your opponent is near the corner but still can be pushed back, so when (You) are midscreen. It gives you wall carry and wall bounce + refund if you do it raw.
>5U
Wow, you have to play the game now to get huge reward. Huge deal. Good patch, right? Bea's M Divekick and Narm H Crescent don't even offer follow-ups (unless they changed it), while Djeeta's 5U lvl 1 (45 frames of charge that you can partition) gives you crouched state + c.M combo starter. A FUCKING COMBO STARTER ON CROUCHED STATE ON DJEETA.
>M rekka
I heard you were giving a fuck. You know, routing, cooldown cycle, that sort of stuff. It's also safe on block.
>30f startup mmyaas
Yes, that's why gamera did it in front of kosame TWICE in row.
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>Don't watch my replays
>Remain in blissful ignorance
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>this is someone's arch nemesis
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pls respond?
>>491733863
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>>491734556
whenever i think like this the next time i play it goes so bad. be careful
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Hello I'm new to fighting games, would Katalina be a good starter character?

I think I got most of her basic combos down and can even pretty reliably anti-air the AI with her. My only worry is the mix-up, compared to someone like Vira I feel like I have less options "cracking" open the enemy in the corner, although Kat's neutral game feels better if you play reactive and actually confirm.

With her U being buffed can I actually throw this out every once in a while or do I still only use it for back-hopping?
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>>491734943
Yeh, kat is as simple as it gets and she's stupid good in the current patch.
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>>491734943
>fraudalina
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>>491734943
You can bait people to do shit by standing in front of them with lightwall and then backdashing. That's effectively her throw and dp bait since it goes far enough to do it now.
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>>491733383
if Ferry is close enough to trigger cutscene she's fully invincible
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>>491734842
correct
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>>491733605
She’s basically a reaction check character, you have to be prepared to react to her specials/approaches and punish, and sometimes you just have to take a gamble to get out of her pressure. If you just downback and wait for it to stop she’ll win every time.
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>>491734882
>>491733863
You need to hold that guard button, one time Belial shoots the projectile to you, you block it, it starts spinning, you let it go and get hit
Spam f.H more
If you have the occasion, like using a BC causing a knockdown, setup your sigils
Your ultimate dive is pretty good so use it from time to time

Grimnir is complex, it's hard to give you advice without maining him sorry
In any case that round you lost is you not holding guard
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>do a late crossup on anyone and the move stops before it can actually crossup

meanwhile 2b swings through the ground and hits the bottom of your feet
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>>491733151
they wanted to see yuel smile...
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Yuel should die.
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>>491734943
Wall is primarily still for dash canceling but it was buffed to increase by 1 level if successful meaning you can get level 2 confirms quite regularly now and level 3 crumple hits are surprisingly feasible if you go all in
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>>491733863
ignoring obviouss stuff like wrong guesses
>i would not press fireball without a good amount of space, belial's fH and 66L are too much of a threat
>your corner setups are solid but your pressure outside of that is weak, you;re stopping your strings after cH, autocombo 2, autocombo 3, etc. which are all minus. use more staggered cL, and 66L, and if you go into autocombo use H fireball to get another turn or autocombo OH/low enders to try and steal one.
>if you commit to a frametrap like cL fL 2M and they don't bite, space trapping with fH fireball is pretty good while watching out for jump ins
>don't delay 2L when they're not in 2L range, your goal with it is to tech a throw/reversal them. use 2M or fH when he's spacing you out
>don't be in a rush to press while in the corner, you get hit by random stuff like the Belial fireball spin, his jump in. especially against belial, you don't want to risk it because it's going to loop into infinite plus frames, wait for a good read on your opponent if you can
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I'm starting to think we got scammed Virabros. 214U, SBA and 623M DP nerfs arent really worth the ocassional 22U > command grab. 8f cH is nice but thats literally the standard for good characters and I don't really feel the walk speed buff makes a difference. Airdash buffs are a meme, you get up in the air and you die by 2Hs or a DP. The game feels more tolerable with less damage overall though at least she doesn't blow up in 10 second but its still a pain in the ass to play neutral
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>>491735956
You deserve zero sympathy
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Who deserves sympathy?
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>>491736068
Charlotta and everyone who plays her, loves her, makes love to her
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>>491736024
How come? I've honestly haven't seen that many Viras in S++ let alone competitive play.
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>>491735904
thanks bruh
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>>491736089
charlotta players deserve sympathy the least though
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Hello, is the exploit that allows you to play the full game out of the free version still around?
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>>491736161
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>>491734759
>236U isn't risky
You clearly either don't play djeeta or if you do, you played like a nigger. 236U unlike rock smash or cresant or divekick is not airborne. If you read a delay 2L but the opponent does tech with grab instead you die as djeeta. There was risk in it, you had to commit to a read and it wasn't a single solution to every problem like the throw bait niggers.
>Use of 214U isn't risky
Traditional shimmy dies to delay 2L. i don't what the fuck you're on that made you think djeeta didn't need to take risks to open people up before
>Everyone got gutted on ults
are you even FUCKING reading? Some characters rely on ults more than others. Some characters like bea or siegfraud gave zero fucks about their ults and it became a nothingburger change for them.
>Meter is free
Still a nerf
>5U
He thinks a universal solution compared to previous djeeta one solution to one problem is higher skill kek.
>He thinks Bea M divekick narm H crescent has no followup
Exposed for the shitter you are.
>M rekka
No one gives a fuck, no one is going to toss it out and hope to catch a counter hit because it's a stupid nigger move that loses your turn immediately on block
>gamera kosame
it worked because it was stupid and this is a fighting game with no right or wrong answers. gamera could have easily done a delay close heavy to catch tech and canceling into H fireball if kosame didn't bite for continued pressure. The pressure is better and the reward is better. In fact it's what gamera did prepatch like everyone else, gamera was clearly trying new patch things for the sake of trying

I don't know what the fuck you're on thinking the stuff djeeta lost wasn't important and we should all worship our new 5U god. You know what, keep charging your fool shit and crying when it gets blocked because you now need to get another lvl 1 somehow when other characters can just bust out another throw bait on the spot for another guess.
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>>491736186
buy the game miser
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>>491736126
A lot of people in this general are scrubs that got traumatized by Vira on launch.
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>>491736068
the devil
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>>491735956
The real buff is the walk run speed changes.
C.H becoming 8f instead of 9f is also a huge change for consistency.
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>>491736186
Yes. At the usual place, don't know why you didn't check there before asking.
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>>491735956
Charchar said she is EATING GOOD this patch.
(Charchar also got like 50th in TNS yesterday, so, yeah)
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>>491736575
Not part of your dumb conversation but 236U beats regular throws too, it's just 3f shorter of a window (6f technically with Ult Skill slowdown). In general anything that beats delay 2L will also beat regular throw, that's the reason everyone spams the OS, because it's safer against the most common throw bait options and barely any riskier against Ult Skill/cH attempts.
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how do you counter this round start
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxIRyf9emxE
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>>491737005
It technically beats but against any nigger who isn't braindead and varies their delay timings you can easily eat shit
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>>491736878
Cause I dunno where the usual place is, last time I just grabbed the files from here
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>>491737110
roll
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>>491737110
Block
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>>491737110
Round start DP
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>>491736753
Couldn't have been worse than nier
>>491736784
Yeah she's more consistent I'll give you that but she still feels like middle of the road and ultimately the patch also feels like a nothingburger for her
>>491736958
She's a solid top 15 imo but its not really fun to play against the top 10 imo
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>>491737230
the sword doesn't have a hitbox
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>>491737005
>delay 2l is barely any riskier
lmao tell that to elsa who got evaporated for spamming delay 2l os like the braindead nigger he was
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>>491737215
lying faggot
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>>491737151
https://files.catbox.moe/rmstow.rar
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>>491737476
thanks anon
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>>491737428
If he was teching with the throw input at the same timings instead he would have gotten cH'd by Shinku for that too. It's not a flaw with the OS if the user is a bot
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Would the game be fixed if you couldn't late tech while crouching?
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>>491737564
das a virus
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>>491737454
Hey, don't shout at me! I barely fight Luci, I just assumed it would work. Is that attack treated as a low or something?
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>>491737663
Yes, only Grimnir, Yuel and Soriz would remain problematic because their fL's are lows, but even then they have more recovery than 2Ls
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>>491737729
Why do you try to give advice if you barely fight him?
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>>491737110
Backdash/Back up
dodge
roll
super jump
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why don't people on this board grind the game and improve instead of screeching at each other all day
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>>491738025
training mode is boring
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>>491737947
>you gave up
>still his turn
>loses
>loses because he 2H's after
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>>491738025
They lack the Gene.
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>>491737924
Because rolling non-low attacks with high recovery usually works?
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>>491725216
If this is supposed to be a guide then it's kinda dogshit
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your move bro
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>>491738218
It's designed to be easy to consume for jappas, it is exactly the kind of slop they enjoy.
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>>491738328
why does the ball linger so long? did it change this patch?
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>>491738162
it is irrelevant if an attack is actually a low or not what matter is if it hits the ground or not
and the sword indeed hits the ground so its not rollable
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>>491738424
Oh, I didn't know that, thought it was just low attacks
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>>491737689
It's too late, his computer is bricked
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https://chzzk.naver.com/2e8c666cdde3f6f9451212686c9dced0
gook tournament
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>>491738701
Well, this piece of shit site constantly stutters, sho-san is restreaming it at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq0yb-8Sz54
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>>491738328
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>>491738798
>shosan too silly to close his fucking game so the menu music stops playing
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>>491738701
>>491738798
I forgot gooks can't use twitch anymore
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>>491738421
She needs it.
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What the fuck is this related video when viewing shosan.
This is a clean browser with no cookies and I've certainly not watched dog content on youtube ever even if it wasn't.
Are eustace dog fuckers to blame?
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>>491739249
ggs it was me
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>>491739240
the priconnes have many cute lines.
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>>491739249
>What the fuck is this related video when viewing shosan.
Zeta. Pic related with Eustace's dogs.
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66L should have 20 frames of start up
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>>491738123
>loses because he 2H's after
I checked, you don't even need to super jump you can just jump
DID YOU EVEN BOTHER TO TRY LABBING AGAINST IT
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>>491739084
She actually does her SSBA is fucking awful and her install is even worse
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>tako belial
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>nyyyeeeee shix shix el shyould gyet dyeleted byecause my character gets cyountered by it mhm nyes im absyloutely byeing obyjectyve here and nyot byeing ayn annyoing unskylled bytich who cyan't impyove and hyas to ryesort to exyternal hyelp mmm nyes
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>nyeeeeees shix shix el shyoould bye lyeft alyone byecyase imma ryetaryed goryilla faggyot wyo hyas no neytral aieeeeeee whyat dyo ai doooooo in nyetral??? oh i knyow shix shix el shix shix el shix shix el shix shix el shix shix el daym im so gyawdliek
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Why isn’t Tako staying loyal to Niia…
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YouTube really has more viewers than Twitch huh
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i honestly thought you retards were talking about seox but then i realized i was the retard
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>>491739961
The difference is that 66L is in the game already and it's a tool that can be used by everyone, you can use it too retardGOD. So yes, your "no u" comment is nothing but COPE.
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>>491740075
are all 66ls created equal?
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>anon complaining about 66L still stuck in 1.0 Rising
Do you motherfuckers even play the game?
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>>491740075
>everyone has equal range 66Ls and gets equal pressure off of them, fast characters tottaly not benefit from it 1000x more than slower ones
retardgod
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>>491740290
dont forget the launch cope that the frame data is the same
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>>491740290
>I'm playing a slow ass piece of shit with insane normals, why is my rushdown button "weaker"
Maybe because the game isn't made by retarded faggots like you? lol
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>>491740075
>it's a tool that can be used by everyone
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>>491740275
way too puffy
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>>491740558
thats why you kiss it and make it better
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>>491740481
>call others retarded faggots
>is playing charlotta or belial
lel
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>sho-san screaming arveeeess even for other zetas
cute
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>remove 66L!!!!!
>who is your main?
>Cagliostro, Ferry, Metera, Vaseraga, Versusia, why?
KEKYPOW.
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lancelot sisters... i don't feel so good...
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All it needs is 2 more frames of startup and 66L would still a completely fine balanced tool
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>>491740742
but don't caggots has a good 66l
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>>491740742
They should just give 66L more recovery frames on whiff so it's a guaranteed punish if you dodge it.
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>>491740875
SHUT THE FUCK UP, DO YOU WANT NEZU TO SHIT UP THIS BOARD AGAIN
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>>491740943
just who do you think is talking about wanting to fuck caim every thread
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>keeo 66L!!!!!
>who is your main?
>Belial, Kat, Bea, Seox, Djeeta, Charlotta, Sieg, why???
keksus maximus
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>>491740864
>>491740910
Sure.
>actually happens
>AIEEEEEEEEEEEE STILL NOT ENOUGH DELETE DELETE DELETE
I'd welcome the change because, as someone who actually plays the game, it annoys me evading it and not being always able to punish it, but fagretardtrannycuntshitshitshit players would still complain because they want their game to be the single player experience where they poke you to Desu and you don't get to do shit. Absolutely pathetic. This is what I'm laughing at, these retards.
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oh nyo
*fyart*
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>>491741038
stop using nier pics... she's already neutered...
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>>491741031
why would charlotta want 66l dead
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SHOSAN IS JOBBING ON STREAM
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>>491741169
And I don't give a shit and I still play her. Actually, if you lose to me now you literally should uninstall. GM btw.
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who’s the honestest character and why is it lasdiva
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>>491741038
>im laughing at some retards that i thought up in my head
fitting nier picture
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>>491741265
thank you brick
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>>491741190
>>keep 66L
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>>491741265
Stop using the dub brick you ADHD riddled fuck
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>>491741031
djeeta 66l isn't even that good anymore
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>>491741401
sorry I thought you were doing some kind of retarded cat speak for KILL 66l since most of those characters would love for that.
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>>491741190
>66l gets deleted
>to compensate, charlotta's balls are all plus on block, have upwards hitbox, H ball has H crush properties, demon flip is even faster
do it
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>fight an S rank Nier that has no idea what he is doing at midscreen
>he suddenly hits me with the triple 5U Death reset combo

what the fuck
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>>491741497
you should be able to charge charlotta balls
i dont mean the motion i mean you should be able to rev her up
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>>491741038
what would her titties smell like
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>>491741497
I'm pretty sure you just described Vanilla Charlotta. Those are all things she had that got nerfed, except maybe the plus on block balls which sounds ridiculous. But I've heard about the other ball changes before.
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>>491741490
why would characters that abuse 66L the most would want it to die
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>>491741618
rev it, you say
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>>491741582
you can do 3 5Us in a combo?
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>>491741618
Only if it's with a very cheesy, stereotypical motorbike engine sound effect.
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>>491741658
Because Belial, Kat, Djeeta, and Sieg all have strong normals that privilege them in a world without 66l.
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>>491741701
that or ever intensifying weird harvin noises like charlotta is gluttonously eating in a comical fashion and having a stroke at the same time
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>>491741786
the world would still be better without it
even with belial's arguably top 1 normals, he is currently a 66L distributing bot
literally every belial so far that i fought does nothing but 66L all the time
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>>491741953
because belial is op and retarded
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>>491741953
It's because his other options are so bullshit that you're forced to respect 66L even in ranges where other chars would have risk losing their turn
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>>491741953
I agree with you anon, I'm just saying I don't inherently hate 66l, I just hate how reliable it is combined with the best 66ls being on characters who don't really need it.
Belial certainly doesn't at least.
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belial is fair and honest
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>the kat is just spamming 66L
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Yuel players be like
>infinite pressure vs any character without meterless DP
>unreactable overhead
>60% combos off every hit
>500 ways to end pressure without any consequence expect you can also come back in while + 3 different ways
ISSA BOTTOM TIER
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>>491742190
dont forget two dps!!!
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>>491742190
Thank you. I know it took a lot of bravery to say this.
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>>491742190
kekaroo
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>>491742273
Yeah, I'm at 0 BP now.
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>>491742190
Bitch is ANNOYING to fight at best
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on a scale of 1 to 73 how dead is the game
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>>491742390
this thread is apparently more alive than europe.
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>>491742390
27 (66L's recovery frames)
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“Delete 66L” players be like
>they want you to stay over there where you are, and not win. Like they pick a character who has better normals than you, better zoning than you, better options in the midscreen than you, better neutral than you, and when you have the GALL to be like "you know what, I'm gonna [go] in," they're gonna be like, you would SKIP the neutral? The neutral I'm incredibly favored in?
https://youtu.be/oc_gPRKYtKU?t=227
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>>491742440
> 27 66L's recovery frames
you mean 10
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>>491742540
>Troonjam viewer
>dog shit post
Like clockwork.
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>>491742540
SF did a number to the FGC's faggots brain for sure. Most braindead playerbase ever.
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>>491741031
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>>491742616
Refute his argument, tranny. The game will never cater to your kind, by the way.
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>>491742190
>Infinite pressure
How? She can chain lights or 2 plus lows and shes out of range
>Unreactable overhead
For zero reward unless you pressed which you apparently arent doing and its punishable
>60% off every hit
Outside of SSBAs show me a combo that does even 7k reliably
>Ending pressure without consequence
This doesn't even make sense, thats how any pressure sequence works unless you overextend on any character. If you mean her very reactable plus fire move, or very reactable jump back pressure reset thats actually a skill issue.
She is fucking awful right now. In a state of making repeated risky decisions that often yield little reward.
Before the auto parry tempted you because it lost to lows and her td.m low crushed. She made a read on the low and got rewarded.
Now she has to make a read on a press with her own press which is 38 total frames but invul 1-10.
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>>491741628
Semen, just like the rest of her body.
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Yuelmains owe me sex
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>>491742905
>>491742905
>>491742905
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>>491742540
>quoting sajam
you
>The neutral I'm incredibly favored in?
>implying the most 66L abusing characters have bad neutral when we are talking about the likes of belial, kat, sieg, djeeta, charlotta, bea etc
lost
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>>491725730
She's just not good. No one chooses to play her thinking she's good. Everyone that mains her only wants to have sex with her. If you fall into that group then go for it.
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>>491742540
Sajam is literally S rank with Luci. On the current patch
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>>491725730
She’s like mid-high tier. Nothing wrong with her, but definitely not top tier
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>>491741953

Well of course it would be. 66L is the most meta defining move ive ever seen in a grounded 2D fighter. People always say it skips neutral but actually it IS the neutral. Its the number one thing you have to worry about because its almost everyone's longest reaching normal while also having plus frames. When people realize that its easiest way to get in on the opponent while also getting game ending combos people just spam it all the time and that just makes the game boring to watch and play. Its a big reason why people quit the game along with BC making people have to tiptoe on their own offense so they dont eat a hard knockdown against like Ladiva who just wants to get in altogether. It would better for the game longterm if they made the move outright garbage to use in every situation but yea
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>>491741031
Sieg 66L isn't good and never has been. He is one of the characters that would actually benefit from it being axed, because then approaching him would be a fucking nightmare.
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And... done with the battle pass



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