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Can she save this game? This thread?


Big meaty notes
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=xg9_rosyyop

Versusia Character Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2OoiGWYFUk [Embed]

Upcoming tournaments:

/gbvsg/ NA tournament 11th
August 24th 3:30 PT / 6:30 ET
https://challonge.com/jzhx3ax

/gbvsg/ EU tournament 6th
August 24th 12:00 PT / 9pm CEST
https://challonge.com/ty0xasd3

SilentOne tournament VOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMsX2TfHxlM [Embed]
NA TOURNEY #10 VOD:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2221232191
EU TOURNEY #5 VOD
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2221057094

>Older Tournament VODS:
https://pastebin.com/y5xV4pqN
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To join, turn Crossplay off in System settings so that you're able to join Platform lobbies.
Then you can join the (un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby at Japan Platform Lobby 1. Image version of joining instructions @ https://i.imgur.com/bCHqtDL.png
Playstation players cannot join the lobby, use the room if needed instead.
>(un)Official /gbvsg/ Rooms
Usually has "gbvsg" as password (check thread). f2players cannot join so ask people to join the lobby instead.
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>Upcoming DLC
Versusia (20 aug), Vikala (october) will close out the pass, season 2 starts with Sandalphon.
https://youtu.be/4GqEX6Eqr34 [Embed]

New Belial Battle Pass Costume:
https://x.com/gbvs_official/status/1817149182618341539
>this week's F2P rotation
Gran, Nier, Sieg, Seox
>Latest Patch Notes
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=xg9_rosyyop
>Steam page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2157560/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus_Rising/
>Website
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/
>Resources:
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR
>Twitter hashtags
https://twitter.com/YamicornDMV/status/1709222479061745711
>Match replays
https://replaytheater.app/?game=gbvs

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HAHAHAHAHA, I mean-
I just, I just-
I'm just gonna block you for playing Belial! HAHAHAHA! I'm not gonna play against him!!! HAHAHA!!! That's all!
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Dogfuckers, share your combo with me
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>>491742997
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HAHAHAHAHA, I mean-
I just, I just-
I'm just gonna block you for spamming 66L! HAHAHAHA! I'm just not gonna play against you!!! HAHAHA!!! That's all!
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i think ferry is pretty
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>>491742905
She will do both.
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>>491742997
>>491743123
>>491743160
I will rape and impregnate this chibi's feet
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>>491743253
dyon't shes already dead
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AWEI!
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>>491742997
>>491743123
>>491743160
total fox destruction
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Have my Zetabros adjusted to the changes? How are you feeling about the character post-patch?
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>How? She can chain lights or 2 plus lows and shes out of range
Disingenuous little Yueltard just gonna act like foxfire doesn't exist LMFAOOOO
>For zero reward unless you pressed which you apparently arent doing and its punishable
It's called conditioning retard, do you also let yourself get thrown for free 50 times because a throw bait might happen?
>Outside of SSBAs show me a combo that does even 7k reliably
Look up ult foxfire combos A5er

Not even going to get into the rest of your shitter downplay rambling
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HAHAHAHAHA, I mean-
I just, I just-
I'm just gonna delete this game! HAHAHAHA! I'm not gonna play it!!! HAHAHA!!! That's all!
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>>491742895
>>491742895
What are Niers nipples saying?
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>>491743343
This button isn't even particularly good in Rising
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>mirror match with main
>other guy has 20x less games than me
>i get swept 0-2 twice
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Yuel players actually saying that they don't have 60% combos out of SBA, lol, lmfao even
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can you always hit all versions of lucifer's teleport with one button with the same timing?
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>>491744083
for some characters, yes
Like Katalina
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how can both the ppl who hate yuel and the ppl who play yuel be equally retarded

>yuel does all this shit she actually doesn't!!! so fucking dumb!!! i refuse to learn the matchup!!!

>omg stfu yuel is the worst character in the game!!! she has no redeeming qualities besides her delicious stinky toes!!! she doesn't have great buttons or an obnoxious stance or one of the furthest reaching meterless dp's in the game!!!

you're both fucking stupid
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>>491744193
why is it only some characters?
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>>491743878
if he spent meter it's like he used a SBA moron
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why is his ears so pointy
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>>491743428
"buff 66L"
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>>491744205
HAHAHAHAHA, I mean-
I just, I just-
I'm just gonna jack off to Yuel! HAHAHAHA! I'm not gonna play her!!! HAHAHA!!! That's all!
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>>491744187
combos that will never happen
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>>491744205
>yuel does all this shit she actually doesn't!!! so fucking dumb!!! i refuse to learn the matchup!!!
yuel downplayer spotted
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I've never seen a general produce so many memes this fast, how did HAHAHAHAHA I mean- get so popular already
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>>491744732
lyria = charlotta
djeeta = opponent
vyrn = spectator watching the same thing for the 100th time
empty plates = counterhit 2Hs charlotta took
hidden narmaya masturbating her nipples = neechang
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>>491744719
the one thing vanilla players and rising players seem to agree on is hating belial
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So we know who the top characters are in the current patch, but who are the worst ones?
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>>491745051
Mine.
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>>491743384
She cant foxfire out of stance buttons, medium is a 31 frame start up and a 45 frame special. Heavy can be done once as a pressure reset. Tons of characters have H pressure resets
Dont mash stance or U DP it or BC. Worst case is you get hit by the OH best case you don't and get a much bigger reward than she would.
Yeah I did and her optimals run between 5-7k

And I dont play her retard. I just get fucking tired of every shit character getting gassed up by people who cant stop mashing into stupid shit then posting about how busted they are to soothe their shitter egos.
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>>491745051
We dont know either of those yet aside from obviously Belial. Even if we did, this thread would say 80% of the cast was top 3 and 20% are bottom 1
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>>491745158
>And I don't play her
yeah ok bud
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>>491743878
Thats not even 50% you daffy retard. Thats 40%. The remaining health and previous lost health are roughly the same meaning the split would be 30/40/30
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Add the shota knights
My whore wife needs it
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>>491745051
Metera and Ferry are still down there. Metera is almost identical other than the 66L cM change. Abel, Vane, and Ladiva escaped.
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>>491745051
2B
Belial
Katalina
Remaining top 10 is Luci, Grimnir, Vaseraga, Bubs, Djeeta, Lance, Siegfried in some order
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>>491745051
ferry, yuel, narmaya, metera
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>>491745051
Versusia
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GBVSR was my first fightan but since i started playing SF6 and GGST i feel like granblue lacks depths and isn’t as fun as before, what do?
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Is Zoi the most universally loved character? Nobody can hate her or complain about how cheap she is.
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>>491747519
>Le infinite blockstring hadoken spam of fairness
nah fuck this character
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>>491747420
Play what you like??? What kind of question is this
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>>491747420
Post your Granblue, GGST and SF6 hours.
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>>491747420
uninstall grubble and go play street shitter and guilty queer pride
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What is the point of slow ass c.Hs? Slower than 10 frames?
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>>491748041
Either an intentional limitation or a different callout for delay tech
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>>491745051
Soriz got nerfed by the meaty.
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>>491748361
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>Beat a 2B player in ranked
>SCREAM SUCK THE DIRTIEST PART OF MY ASSHOLE YOU SCRUB
>Parents ask me wtf is going on
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>>491748462
tell em it was a scam call
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>>491748462
You need to calm down, son of mine.
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>>491748427
Just cause you're an ape who can't navigate his fake "pressure" doesn't make him good.
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>>491748635
His f.H is like the 3rd best in the game and got buffed...
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>>491748301
>or a different callout for delay tech
I do know that, but you'd sooner get grabbed or mashed on considering how precise you have to be on guessing when the opponent is going to tech, to the point I feel like c.Hs like that are generally not worth using over delay c.L or even c.M. And that makes me sad.
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I'm going to masturbate furiously to Yuel
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>>491747420
I mean, you're right. GBVSR is (should be) more about the fundamentals and mind game than the depth of its system mechanics. There is a public for that sort of game.
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>>491747420
I don't disagree with you, there isn't much depth in GBVS, but I think it's fine.
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So is Djeeta better or worse now?
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Thank god 2B has a skill gauge because oh wait her blockstring monkey mash lets her infinitely extend pressure no matter what never mind
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>>491748716
Anon said buff not in the patchnotes explain yourself.
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>>491749323
...What?
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>>491747519
I despise playing against her if that's what you're asking
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>>491749426
Anon, said buff is not in the patch notes. Explain yourself.
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>>491749552
I'm retarded. When I read "Roundhouse kick" I think of his f.H for some reason.
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I think Lucifer on his release was stronger than Versusia
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>>491749996
Nah, Luci on release was a very flawed character who had some good MUs due to his neutral
Versusia has way better offense than launch Luci ever did
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>>491748462
Why do you still live with your parents?
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>>491750401
>Versusia has way better offense
she can't even safely chain 2 close lights together. the only character who can't
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>>491750486
It's economically convenient and I would be lonely without them
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>>491750486
>You must be at least 30 years old to play Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising
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>>491750602
Yeah but her skills are threatening and leave her in good ranges, Luci's offense before level 5 is literally just "I throw projectile and you block this wack mixup ok now I get raped".
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>>491750486
>get to save money
>get company
>eat tendies after a sweaty ranking session
what's not to like?
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>>491750486
because it's better than being a rentoid
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>>491750486
I can't afford to rent it's a public crisis tearing countries apart globally
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Why does 2B need an air move that hits all around her?
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>>491751541
She didn't have any parents to leech off of like /gbvsf/ does so she earned it.
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2B is a fighting game character designed for people who don't want to play fighting games
The problem with that is that when you design a character like that they are inevitably going to be insanely unfun to play against when used by people who do play fighting games
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>>491750486
I can't get a job and I've got student debt
Nobody likes me anyways so its not like ill invite anyone so theres no shame
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>>491748716
His f.H is pretty slow and it whiffs on crouching opponents, how is it the 3rd best?
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>>491745051
>So we know who the top characters are in the current patch
And they are?
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Lowain is a fighting game character designed for people who don't want to play fighting games
The problem with that is that when you design a character like that they are inevitably going to be insanely unfun to play against when used by people who do play fighting games
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>>491750793
The only threating skill I think is her jump scare lunge. And even then you either need to have a precious 40 frame stock to make it safe or get punished if you just throw it out and it gets blocked, so it's not a very solid gameplan to build her around. Not one special is plus either (not counting h orb), unlike Lucifer's. Her pillar is good to win fireball wars, but you throw it out and even if it hits you get like 7% from it. Then it's on longer than average cooldown and you have nothing to threatening again. Everything is air blockable. 66L range sucks. Dash has some good points, but is still worse than just a regular fast dash.
I just judge on my experience, because I had a much, much easier time establishing offence with Lucifer. He was so much faster so his strike throw was better. Better close buttons. Had a dedicated throw bait too. A couple of reaction checks too keep opponent at bay. Stance to lure in the opponent or get plus frames. I just... I don't know, I just don't see the light with Versusia. What is the threat? What is the main gameplan with which I MURDER my opponent? Throw projectile that do no chip and little damage and then occasionally hope they get hit by the jump scare? Sometimes mix it up by running with the slowest start up run in the game and hope they don't react to it? If a better Versusia than me has a real gameplan then I'd be glad to know.
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>>491750486
I'm 32 and still live at home.
I have a job, I just have no social life and I don't want to pay rent so why would I leave?
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>>491750486
Minimum $1200 a month for a bachelor flat in my city. No bedroom.
The provincial government took limitations off of what power companies can charge and fucked the consumers in a bid to become more like America, we're paying more than ever for utilities. Healthcare is next. This shows no signs of slowing unless our voters become less retarded or the old finally die out.
Grocery chains are rackets run by billionaires. Nothing is a deal, every portion is getting smaller, you will pay to starve.
At this point families are huddling together in fear.
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>>491750486
I'm saving money to buy my own place instead of wasting it on the rent jew.
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Number of Versusias in tournament top 8s over the past week
>2
Number of Lucis
>0
I rest my case
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbuHvtogFjw
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>>491752360
Anyone who's not my main.
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>>491742905
please play grand bruise, i need the pass missions
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>>491754341
You're much better off asking the discord.
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wtf is wrong with Vira players man
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Do you agree with twitter nigga about 66L ruining this game?
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>>491755167
It's the same issue since release and FKHR has made it clear that is not changing. The game is ass.
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>>491755348
how has he made it clear? most of the system changes people were complaining about were nerfed less than a week ago
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>>491754780
adequate behavior against a beatrix
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>Top tiers
>All have a meterless DP
Curious...
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>>491755348
In the now privated video they literally talked about how they know some stuff is stupid and they need to change it.
The problem is that changing 66L/BC/BP etc needs to be a gradual process because of just how important they are in the game, but then they have to realize that a patch every 9 months is not gonna cut it if they have to finetune this stuff
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>>491750486
Lost my jerb and couldn't stay afloat, they offered it to me before I got myself in debt. I make up for it by doing taking cares of the chores and doing odd jobs here and there but fuck I'm not proud of being a grown ass man crashing at his parent in his 30s. I'm very fortunate to have them.
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O' wise one

Teach me thou secret of footsies
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>>491755937
Lancelot the honest top tier
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>>491755986
>Everything that was added in Sharting is a problem that needs to be addressed
Hymmmm....hyow cyurious....
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>>491756105
>asking charlotta
I don't think that's a good idea
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>>491756105
Use an unsafe neutral skip and DP immediately after
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Is rising more unga than strive?
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>>491756105
This screencap gave me massive fucking Ragnarok Online vibe holy shit anon
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>>491756105
why is this image so crusty
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>>491756356
This. Literally admitted that the entire game was a big mistake. VanillaGODS have been vindicated, again.
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>>491756538
buisness laptop
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>>491756486
No, definitely not, the existence of burst, roman cancel, or wild assault, or even any of these all by its lonesome will never make Rising more unga than Strive and that's before going into specific characters and their mechanics.
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>forced to come back to this kusoge early because gamera and tororo can't stop shitting the bed
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>>491756486
Nothing more unga than the sheboon
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>>491756687
strange looking fella, reminds me of a chimpmunk
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>>491748930
so who won
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>>491756771
It's an extremely plappable sheboon though
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>>491756410
But what if I don’t have DP?
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>>491756890
>>491756771
i'll do yall one better
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>>491757080
barf
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>>491756627
>vindicated
>when their game was killed and is and will stay dead
>when they'll keep slurping Rising anyway
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>>491757080
ew
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>>491756771
>>491756890
You know what be fun, a Strive x Rising character exchange. And the exchanged character keeps all their framedata and movement.
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>>491756984
then stop playing soriz
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>>491757080
Thas ain't it mane
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>>491752475
NTA, and I agree with your general assessment that Versusia is not very good, but you can get a combo from close hit pillar if you have the follow-up. So it's more than just 7% if they were running forwards. Doesn't really help to solve any of her issues though.
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>>491757186
Soriz doesn't have unsafe neutral skips
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>>491757132
Do you even know what "vindicated" means anon?
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>>491757182
Nigger I didn't escape the hellscape of shit and perversion that is Strive for it to hound my ass all the way over here.
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Hey everyone, havent had much time to play this game due to life events getting in the way. Turns out me saying "fweh" to my son was a sort of breaking point and he has stopped all communication towards me. I went to his mothers house and her boyfriend pushed me off my rascal scooter when I tried to talk to my son. I then went home and tried to play Granblue but I kept losing. It seems some matchups have certainly changed, Ladiva was really damaging me big time. How are you all still enjoying the patch?
Karl
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>>491757335
I'm telling you that Vanilla was garbage too
>remove Rising changes
>game reverts back to even more garbage
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>>491757080
looks like some racist caricature from the 1930's. what were they thinking?
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She's in
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>>491757625
I'm in*
sorry, typo
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>>491755167
This nigga plays Katalina of course he wants 66L to be worse, his character would be top 1 lmfao
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>>491757786
He thinks she got overbuffed though, at least he's honest about it
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>>491757625
Why isn't she a top 5 most popular waifu are granblue players faggots or what?
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>>491757346
You never escaped though?
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how the fuck are niggas getting 10f or some shit on robomi, I can't get below 18
is it over for me?
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>>491757182
>Your community is now irreparably damaged
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>>491757959
yes we are, problem? it's a faggot game.
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>>491758047
>>491758054
RRREEEEEEEEE
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>>491758054
I didn't even consider this fag when I made that post.
I was thinking of Nago or Slayer so I could enjoy all the chaos.
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>>491758049
I get 14 and it's still a brick...
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>>491758240
considering that thing is their mascot nowadays
please enjoy
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Here's your Strive guest character, bro
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>>491755167
Pretty much. A resourceless move should never be fast, forward-moving, long-ranged, plus-on-block, quick to recover combo starter. If you put all those things into a single move, it means there is very little incentive to press anything else. Like why would I ever press my f.M if it's the same range as my 66L, isn't plus, leads into a worse combo, is harder to confirm and takes longer to recover on whiff. 66L having all these properties forces other normals to be as equally cracked, or otherwise they will never get pressed. Take for example Sieg 2M. It has insane range, but it has to have because otherwise it will just get eclipsed by 66L and Siegs will never press it, as is the case with some other chars 2M/f.M. Reducing the damage, while welcome, doesn't really solve any of the main issues that make it the best button to press in 80% of the situations. I think this issue is best exemplified by how ludicrously many 66Hs never see use, pretty much only the gimmick ones like the ones that have armor or those that are hyper-cracked like Anila's are actually used. Having to think which button is the best choice in each scenario is part of the fun of fighting games, especially in a more slow-paced footsies game that Versus was once upon a time. Having that factor be removed by making a single button your go-to in every scenario is boring.
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>>491758353
Have to score a 12 or lower on the last boss in last difficulty. You're pretty much asked to luck out 3 times in a row by predicting when the boss will shart at you.
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They should make a new bbtag type slop game but using the 3d arcsys games like dbfz, strive, granblue, dnf, etc this time. Let me get that Axl and Ferry team going
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>>491758396
>please enjoy
Blazblue? Don't mind if I do!
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before big meaty:
>djeeta: insane corner carry but low damage
>gran: absurd damage potential but inconsistent corner carry
>katalina: great corner pressure but terrible corner carry
after big meaty:
>djeeta: high damage and consistent corner carry(weakest overall)
>gran: retarded damage AND corner carry
>katalina: obscene corner pressure, can convert off any hit into the corner
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>>491758481
imagine if the guest character had roman cancel, burst and faultless defense
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>>491758959
I feel like a madman for it but I wouldn't mind an FD/barrier equivalent in Rising.
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>>491758481
Just give Charlotta an upball and they're the same.
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>>491759142
What do you tie it to, though
Meter?
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>>491759367
Yes.
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>>491759367
Yeah. the game piss it away to you and I feel it'd be a nice way to give a defensive option for it against all the retarded shit and may even make matches more heated when someone is in chip range and they have to think about their options for a possible comeback.
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>>491757786
>>491757861
most prominent kat players think she was overbuffed
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>>491759523
>>491759534
It would probably be ok, also gives more incentives to instant block
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>>491759534
>>491759523
shimmy's and throw baits are the only ways to bypass delay 2L in this game and you want to make that impossible?
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>>491755167
>Other most recent tweet is complaining about Luci
like clockwork
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>>491759189
Nyo... May has a command grab and an angled projectile...
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>>491744491
Unfathomably based
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I play Kat but they really need to rake away the level 0 lightwall being used as a combo tool. That wasn't something she needed to fix lightwall
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>>491745051
Zoi, Vira, Ferry and Abel
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>>491759879
I meant the same as in being two tiny retards with faggy players who fling themselves across the screen.
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>>491744491
>chunky fox
Nyes... HAHAHA NYES!
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Fat people need to stop projecting their unhealthy weight onto my cute girls.
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stinky toes... nyes...
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>>491760040
needs it
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>>491760334
Faggot.
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Do you guys prefer rising or og versus?
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>>491760504
Fatty.
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>>491760517
Rising.
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>>491759879
>>491759189
>>491758481
so you're telling me charlotta's playstyle always produces attractive female characters and everyone playing these characters' testosterone reached peaked levels?

also holy lowain buffs, he's kinda a menace now
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>>491758807
The game is called Granblue fantasy, not Djeeta's futa harem
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https://youtu.be/L9tKvKmJD5Q?si=DAMJy0_pkouCayZX&t=130
Why do vanillatards put vanilla on a pedestal because of "muh footsies" when the game isn't even half as complex as a game with actually interesting footsies?
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>>491760817
Because they are worse at the new game
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>>491760517
I never played Versus with functional netcode, so it's hard to say if I would enjoy it more than Rising. The 50% meter dash/backdash options and the universal install both seemed pretty stupid mechanics to me, but the general lower power-level and less retardation are appealing.
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Delicious pudgy draphs...
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>>491759738
What does that have to do with a metered block anon?
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>>491760817
>clayton schizoman
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>>491761186
Not an argument, troon
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66L defenders gaslight everyone into the delete or keep 66L argument, but the reality is, gbvs never needed something like 66L to be added in the first place
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When are the dailies resetting? Also should I assume everyone here is master?
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>rushifaa
Mid
>2b
Broken
>Vane
Bottom tier
>Beatrix
Broken
>Versusia
B...?
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>>491758509
Squarely correct nicely done. Not even Superdash was this brainless and that's frankly unacceptable.
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>>491761661
everyone here is grand master, didn't you see the tournament
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Yo I just came back after 7 months, can I still get the battle pass rewards I missed somewhere?
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>>491761661
20:00 UTC
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Chunky mutton
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>>491761864
The costumes are eventually coming back for individual sale. The other rewards are gone forever unfortunately.
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>>491761864
They might be added later to the store
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>>491761864
Not yet but they already said you'll be able to get them with real money soon.
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get in here
https://www.twitch.tv/lobstersarentimmortal
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baaa
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Is Percival with infinite stocks a better character than Belial
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>>491762381
Is vaseraga with perma armor a better character than Belial?
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>>491762381
Yeah, his 214U would be busted
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>>491762182
More EU wackiness, lets go
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>>491761961
HOLY...
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>>491762182
>english VA
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>>491762182
>eigo va
almost closed the tab on reflex
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>>491762046
Do you have a source saying that is how it's going to work?
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Karl... where are you Karl? Please come back Karl...
I don't like these fakers >>491757368
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>>491762182
okay now what?
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>>491762825
they haven't said how it's going to to work.
they said they were looking into how to bring back the costumes, and asked people on evo if they would be willing to buy them as individual DLC, or to rerun older battle passes or something else
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>>491762882
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>>491762182
>dub
HAHAHAHAHA, I mean-
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>>491762931
The game doesn't have remotely enough players to sustain actual FOMO battlepasses just let people buy the rewards sometime after or remove the time limit
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>>491763107
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>>491762831
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>>491763331
Funni fox
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That's not a dud...
EN Eustace could've been worse.
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>dub Djeeta
yeah no I'm out, dub vira was enough as it is
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>any other fighter: can't get a dp to save my life
>gb: 8 out of 10 get a dp instead of fireball
huh??
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>>491763331
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>>491761798
I feel like superdash gets misblamed a lot, I personally view it as more of a band-aid to an existing fundamental problem. They clearly wanted Fighterz to be very loyal to the source material and have the fights feel like an actual DBFZ fight. With that in mind, they decided most characters should be able to throw fast, low commitment projectiles, because that's what the source material is. But if you give everyone the ability to do that, it first raises the question of what's the point of more committal projectile options, like the iconic kamehameha, and secondly how to prevent the game from devolving into mindless projectile spam. Superdash is the solution to those issues, it works as a counter to the light fireballs, and gives heavier projectiles another use-case by allowing them to beat it. I feel like if the game is going to have something like Fighterz ki-blast level projectiles (ie. a single button whiff-cancellable fast low-commitment fireballs) you are going to need a really strong anti-projectile system mechanic to balance it out.
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>>491763849
Granblue's technical inputs are more forgiving than the average fighter
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Can I play Nier now and not receive constant Death threats?

Am I one of the "cool" kids if I play her now? Yippie!
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If you think 66L is mindless then you are just really bad at the game. Like REALLY bad. Like you don’t even understand the basics.
Even sub-masters know how to wait outside of 66L range so they won’t just get clipped by every random 66L. This isn’t advanced tech, this is just basic neutral.
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>>491764436
you mean Desu threats
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Oh no! My penis! It suddenly got very hard, and it's moving by itself, directing itself toward >491764628 at incredibly high speed!
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>>491764739
Is your penis plus on block?
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>>491764871
it's unblockable
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>>491764232
you misunderstand. in granblue, when i want fireball i get a dp instead.
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>>491764628
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>>491764436
No, they will always see you as a fraud because your character was very dominant once
t.Beafag
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>>491764628
You ARE the problem
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>>491765001
Then I'm guessing it's easy to spotdodge, right?
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>>491765351
no, it's fullscreen and active for at least 2 minutes.
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>>491765351
Smallest hitbox in the game
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>>491758054
bridged is so damn cute
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Cag's lobby avatar is cute
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>>491765408
This is somehow Fukuhara's fault
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why does nobody play granbruise...
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>>491765820
god I wish that were me
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>>491765820
I literally had a match a couple of minutes ago anon
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>>491765820
why don't you play the fighting game part of the fighting game?
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>Arm the Bastion (Advancing)
>Now moves forward on successful parry
lol
lmao
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>>491766365
Who's this character? Is he in the new character pass DLC?
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>>491766365
LET'S GO JUSTIN
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>>491766187
i only play lasdiva and it gets boring after a while
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>>491766727
future dlc
that guy is leaking stuff
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>>491766727
don't leak this on twitter. i warn you
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>>491766727
it's a mod, someone just made some retarded OC, you can tell it's an OC because it looks like some knockoff of the pringles mascot but as a harvin
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They call me 007
>0 tournament wins
>0 tournament top 8s
>7 tier lists and top talking heads claiming I'm top 1
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>>491767468
Zeta?
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>>491767468
Give praise for he has no equal
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>>491767597
nu-Zeta
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There should just be a tier in every tierlist that's called "Zeta", and you put a character with no results but "high potential" in
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>>491767828
Soriz inside Zeta sounds hot
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>>491767468
I'm willing to believe he's top 1 if someone actually starts getting results with him but fuck this le in theory shit.
His defense is still shit in a game where gorrilas are rewarded
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>>491768078
everyone has been inside zeta
even djeeta
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>>491754526
>don't have a discord account
just kill me now
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>>491768078
>Bratty Zeta thinks she's in control
>Soriz puts her in her place
Yes please.
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I don't understand why Vane is considered weak
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>>491769707
I don't think he's that weak anymore, they gave me more ways to be rewarded midscreen. he's just not insane.
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>>491768394
He has one of the BEST abares in the game and uses BC well, how is his defense shit fuck off
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luci wake up ssba took over half my life
epic, trvly epic
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>>491769707
He's what the gold standard for character strength should be.
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>>491769912
Best habit you can get into is delaying your kockdown pressure by a quarter of a second
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no meterless DP = shit defense
its that shrimple
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>>491769832
>Best abares in the game
Yeah maybe when he's level 5 retard, compared to other characters if you actually do his max damage shit at low level all you do is tank both your damage and pressure for 10+ seconds. Wow amazing damage when taken out of context.
>Uses BC well
So the entire cast? The people with meterless DPs use it better because they don't have to fucking count on it
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>>491770404
Yea pretty much. Trying to pressure frauds with meterless DP and BC backup is fucking torture.
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>beat a grandmaster nier
>they don't rematch
lmaooooooooooooo
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>>491771057
Name?
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Beatrix.
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Zeta.
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>>491769832
>He has one of the BEST abares in the game
In the "meterless" category yeah
This always ignores that he does not benefit from corner combos as much as other chars + his ultimate skills do not add on a bunch of extra damage like other chars. And if you do decide to do a max damage route early in the match you neuter his pressure and damage for hella


>>491771057
Was it the 900~1k Vane?
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>>491770518
>level 5
His frame data and hitbox normals aren't affected by levels, his f.L is fucking INSANE at stuffing approaches. You don't need to cash out off an f.L when you're on defense, stuffing the opponent's approach with such consistency is great. And he has f.M if you're worried about getting crushed, too
As for BC, yeah. He can BC and then set up a projectile which gives him infinite plus frames to do whatever he needs. You play a setup character and BC lets him set up
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>>491771057
>nu-Nier
You, and I say this 100% unironically, didn't earn it
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cagliostro
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>>491771156
Oh it was Luka
Maybe it was his connection being dog
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Katalina.
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>>491771563
Is this AI
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>>491771541
f.L is dogshit at getting out of pressure I can tell you don't play the character at a high level lmfao
If you did you'd know that it gets crushed by everything because it's 7/8F at max range and most characters have 7F mids
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lucifags itt make me not want to play the character
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>>491771631
>brown hands typed this post
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>>491771541
>And he has f.M if you're worried about getting crushed
Yeah what better way to avoid getting crushed by 7F mids than with your 9F kick
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>>491767468
You just don't get it bro Luci is CRACKED now
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ISCARIOTE
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Does anyone want to play? EU S+ Rank Djeeta.
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>>491771998
who cares?
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>You can't get good by playing ranked you need to run sets!
Run sets with who? The top player discord illuminati that won't play with me?
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Why does he still have the mic crack and distortion on Paradise Lost shit is as funny as it is deafening
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>>491771818
Okay I actually do see your point and somewhat concede. I've been playing a character without a 7f button and my fastest option after I get pushed out of jab range is 66L. Sorry anon, I do still think it's an amazing button but this is more of a matchup issue than a character issue
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>>491771586
Weird, he always rematched me
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>>491772862
I guess it was an unfortunate connection drop, I know people kinda complain about his connection in tournaments
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>>491750486
ill remember these replies when the thread goes to shit
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so what the fuck is the point of yuel's stance now.
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https://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgc
the fucks goin on here
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>>491772784
I agree, I just think it's a problem for the character when people act like he can just hit buttons to get out of pressure when he's cornered which isn't the case at all unless they're leaving fuckhuge gaps
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>>491773527
Team battle time
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>>491769707
He just has a slower gameplan focused on keepaway, and his high damage comes from the opponent making big mistakes rather than forcing his way in. That's low tier in this game where characters like Belial and Cag just bully you until they force you to press and then kill you
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>bubs's j.L crosses up now
could've used this when bea was everywhere. The number of times i baited her 22x with a neutral jump, only for her to stop behind me so i still lose the interaction was too damn high
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>>491756097
>I'm not proud of being a grown ass man crashing at his parent in his 30s
It is way way more common than you think it is anon. You shouldn't feel bad unless you're a former faang employee or something.
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>>491745051
cag is bottom 1
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>>491773235
Now that you make me think about it, I remember lagging while doing a combo to him so yeah could be.
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>>491773527
forgot the fuckin image
hope team coach steve eats shit personally!!
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>play that slime blaster stage for the first time
>get like 8000 points
>blink and I have 2500 for seemingly no reason whatsoever
>suddenly get 4500 out of nowhere
>panic and end at around 4950
What the fuck is this minigame
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>>491774371
Can you actually fail to qualify once youve past 5000? I've only played it twice and didn't really pay attention.
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>>491772540
Anyone? I'll leave in 10 minutes.
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>>491774449
I failed to qualify because of this, yes
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>>491750486
>be a rentoid and dump 50% or more of your income into a black hole
or
>live with your parents and save that money instead
you would have to be retarded to move out of the basement in this economy
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help me with defense, how the fuck do i get my opponent off me when they got me cornered? spending BP to push them away only makes them get up and resume pressure.
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>>491774498
Sorry, I am driving my sister to the doctors.
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>>491774498
sorry watching 007 which is funny considering the post the anon made earlier
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>>491750486
my parents live with me
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>>491774640
>spending BP to push them away only makes them get up and resume pressure.
but it was your turn bro?
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>>491770518
>So the entire cast?
Nah, Versusia doesn't get 66L oki from a non-counterhit BC.
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>>491773898
>He just has a slower gameplan focused on keepaway
Yeah my point is that it's a lot harder to play that way in a game like this with characters like 2B, Belial, Beatrix, Grimnir, Lancelot etc.
His level 5 change gives him an actual win condition that is funny to look at but I think in an actual game (Not theory) the fact that he has to be perfect in neutral and defense is what makes him not top tier.
This is a game where you lose 1 scramble and then you get brought to the corner and potentially guess for the match, idk how a character like Luci can be top when he can't do that (Until he hits level 5)
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>>491774892
i have trouble pressuring in this game, i feel my jump ins are not deep enough because niggas can just stuff / grab me as soon as i land... is there some trick to pressuring in this game? (i play lucilius, if that helps)
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>>491750486
I live in my parents
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>>491775070
desu as Luci I think jumping is kinda shit unless it's done as a necessity like calling out 2B's faggot ass float shit
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>>491755167
I do agree. 66L is this game's Drive Rush except even better because 66L doesn't cost anything and it's even more spammy. There's a bunch of ways to solve the issue with it that doesn't involve just deleting it from the game but so far they've made it clear that they absolutely want 66L to always be plus and to be spammable at all times for some reason. You don't need to be a famous fgc personality or an EVO champ to understand why 66L is just so fucking stupid and that it needs to be nerfed. They give you all this blue move shit to skip neutral but it's always better to just 66L if you can, because it's the absolutely most free option you have at all times in any situation resembling neutral between players.

I'll go as far as to say that 66L encourages sloppy play and it basically carries a lot of people that just don't wanna think hard at all about how to approach the opponent.
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>>491775179
so i want to 236 M/H pressure with strike/throw/raging strike mixups with him?
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>>491766365
>evo 2004 moment 37
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>>491775345
He's not a mixup character, I don't even know if going for run up throws is worth it with him
Honestly just get them to block and then create space
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>>491775181
>leave 66L plus
>increase the startup and whiff recovery so you can actually stuff it in neutral
I feel like this would just solve the problem with it, I'm fine with it being resourceless, advancing, plus on block, combostarter, but it has to be slower
I don't know if this is the perfect solution but I think it would be worth a try
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>>491775545
so i just pmuch want to space all round, get oppotunities for 214M/H grabs and when i reach level 4/5 go ham?
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>>491750486
why would i waste money renting? i work from home
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>>491750486
Above average pay, remote work and living at home unironically in a finished basement. I love it.
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It's amazing how many times they can patch avatar belial and he's still complete dogshit
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>>491775181
>I'll go as far as to say that 66L encourages sloppy play and it basically carries a lot of people that just don't wanna think hard at all about how to approach the opponent.
I agree. 66L carries in the same sense that some people are so reliant on it they are actually have no idea how to play the game without it. Like, pre patch Nier carried absolute unskilled bitches who are now completely filtered, the 66L nerf would be good for the game for the same reason. The carried would be filtered and the good players would remain thus not only making the game more enjoyable to play online but the tournaments more fun to watch as a spectator.
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>Bea loses
>NOOOO I CANT FUCKING LOSE I PAID 8 DOLLARS IM PULLING THE PLUG
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>>491756486
Yes. This game has fullscreen neutral skips, tons of unsafejumpable DPs/counters, and BC. Everybody mashes on defense because it's the best option. People that say Strive is more unga either have like 50 hours in strive or don't play it at all
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>>491764102
touhou 7.5 solved this issue 20 years ago, arcsys should have taken notes
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Mash to tech should not exist it's a terrible mistake that teaches a really bad fighting game habit
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>>491775934
yeah, you're still playing him after all.
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>>491775657
yes
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>>491776441
i see, thank you.
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>>491775853
>remote work
What do you do?
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>>491775626
this is pretty much what I want. I even pre-patch said I wouldn't mind it having more advantage to make up for it, half thinking about that change making 66L c.5M universal. They did that in another way though.
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Anre is fucking annoying and broken as shit right now, but thankfully nobody plays this faggot character
>+ on block into + on block into lmfao you can't do anything into you can't do anything into hey I'm full screen again XD
>oh btw if you ever get in I have 5 fucking parries that can't be punished even if you hard bait them
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>>491776410
the throw system is completely fucked in this game all around
the tech system
the reach
the invul frames on wake up
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>>491743428
Why is Nier like this
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He's so cool
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>Finally work up the nerve to play ranked after being demolished a few weeks ago
>Game is so dead there's nobody at low ranks and it's just impossible to get games without being thrown to the experts who'll one and one for 'not being a threat'
Neat. More wasted money.
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I also managed to land a job I can WFH from and I basically just get to do something quick and simple every few hours and play video games the rest. 40 hour work weeks and all I do is a couple of tasks whenever necessary.
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>>491777089
Do you need any education for that?
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>>491777041
>He didn't use the exploit to unlock the whole game for free
retard
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>>491777041
what region
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>>491776619
Just block or grab if you expecting one of two parries
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>>491776974
He's unironically a good character, especially his dynamic with Siete, but they fucked up with him
Honestly I wish we would have mini events for season passes to introduce characters and such
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>>491758481
>Literal sky pirate as a Granblue Guest
Annoying fucking choice but fits the theme.
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>>491777178
I needed either education or experience and my mother forced the experience on me when I was younger.
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>>491777250
>just never have your turn ever even when you get in other than when you make the most committal read ever
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https://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgc

issa beginning
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>>491773527
>>491774239
Finally started
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>>491750486
Americans are a godless people. There is nothing more important than family, and staying close to your family is not something to be ashamed of.
Forcing your kids to move when they make it to 18 should be.
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This is going to take hours
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>>491777208
NA East. Deadlands in D Rank.
>>491777186
I don't buy fighting games too often, so I'm only like 50% mad, not totally pissed.
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DJEETA ISSA DOGSHIT!!!
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>>491776535
I do findom with pajeets on Instagram while pretending to be a girl
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>>491777583
It's more like American toxic exceptionalism
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>tilting saltz by having zippy steal his color
lmao
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>>491777839
You're not him.
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>>491776619
>+ on block into + on block into lmfao you can't do anything into you can't do anything into hey I'm full screen again XD
He does have this but against a patient opponent it's mostly there for chip, meter gain and corner carry, you don't risk that much holding it. It's good, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't get to go into any particularly dangerous mix from those
>oh btw if you ever get in I have 5 fucking parries that can't be punished even if you hard bait them
First of all it's seven, 5U 6U and j.U all have their own distinct frame data
Second they are all VERY punishable if baited. His Arm the Bastion parries have significant recovery, 5U being 40f total recovery, 6U being a ridiculous 49f total as of this patch, and j.U parry sticking him on the ground with about 15f of landing recovery. Uno's Fleeting Spark, by contrast, has a vulnerability period between the catch and the on-whiff followup, letting you get a counterhit with a delayed button. This works for all four parries. Additionally the M and H versions of Fleeting Spark are both -10 on block, netting most characters very large punishes if you don't want to go for the delayed button. L Fleeting Spark is -6, and while the U version is plus on block its whiffed followup doesn't come out until frame 39, giving you plenty of time to react to the blue flash and punish with delayed button.
Also consider that only H Fleeting Spark and U Fleeting Spark are active parries frame 1, so if your character can do setplay that leaves you out of the way of those two moves in particular you can do that and not have to fear the parries on wakeup. General examples are slow or delayed projectiles/traps like the ones Lancelot, Lowain and Cagliostro have, or jumps that leave you same-side on frame 1 of Uno's wakeup but cross up by the time they hit, making Fleeting Spark go backward and whiff.
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>>491777598
I don't actually know about D rank but you could delete your profile and select to start higher up. It should be matching you with c's and b's if you go over x minutes anyway.
I know there are people in those ranks. Its definitely not dead in NA.
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Diaphoney stepping in
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>>491776535
Analysis work, excel sheets everywhere, maintaining the main server that crunches the numbers etc. I got a cheap online bachelors degree and a few IT certs that you can cheat in after googling around.
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why is zeros mic so fucking loud holy shit
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>>491776974
fyck you *femboys your uno*
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>>491756771
>>491756890
Giovanna is a brown Brazilian not a nigger
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>>491778817
uh anon...
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>>491757182
Only if they get pre nerf Nier
And we get Jaggo so I can masturbate to her (but not play)
I think they could unironically make Asuka work in this game with his control scheme
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>>491778817
lmao
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>>491778506
How long do you usually spend working each day?
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i reinstalled
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>>491778817
Isn't like 60% of the country mixed african or more?
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We are so back...
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STOP FUCKING JUMPING XEROM
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>2Hing charlotta
das illegal
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prophetic... 2h anon.... i kneeeeeeeeeeel.
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>>491779419
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>DESPERATE PANIC WHEN FIGHTING ANY OPPONENT
>GET HIT ONCE? INSTANTLY LOSE
>TRY TO HIT OPPONENT? ENEMY HAS SUPERIOR FRAMEDATA AND MY INPUTS WONT COME OUT
Damn what character doesn't have combo autism attached to do damage? Cause I can land like one hit a match and I'd like to make it count.
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This literal avatar of destruction might be... strong?
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shiwowamb i didn't think you'd still be playing ggs nigger. still can't win with the patch swinging things so much further in your charas favor lmao
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this matchup is unironically like 7-3 charlotta
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ummmm
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>>491775070
>i feel my jump ins are not deep enough because friends can just stuff / grab me as soon as i land
If you're not plus after landing your jump-in, then yeah, it wasn't deep enough. Keep in mind that if you're like +3, mash an 8f move and they they tried to throw you with their 4f throw when you landed, then you're the one losing that exchange. Hop in training mode and see for yourself what the frames are like on your typical jump-ins.
>is there some trick to pressuring in this game?
The core of pressuring, for the vast majority of the cast, is to get close enough to throw the opponent, and then either doing that or doing something that beats their throw tech attempt. Here's a very basic example.
>you just landed a combo that gets you a safejump
>you jump in, force them to block your j.H, then press c.L while you're right in their face, making you plus
You can now
>microdash and throw them, which beats blocking
>press your c.H, which will counter hit them if they try to mash out or tech your throw
You always want to figure out what your opponent likes to do and then use the option that beats them. If your opponent is patiently blocking, you throw them. If they're teching your throws, hit them. Acting like you want to throw your opponent and then using a move that goes airborne is a very common way to beat throw techs. Alternatively, doing a backdash and then punishing with a normal (Lucilius' f.M is fantastic for this) is a common choice if you character doesn't have a move that avoids throw techs.

Some people like to tech exclusively using buttons like 2L, which makes baiting throw techs much harder for a lot of the cast, since it's harder to punish a whiffed 2L than a whiffed throw. For people like that, keep in mind that every throw they "tech" like that actually costs them 1k damage (40% of the damage of a regular throw), and it leaves them very negative, so you keep your turn.

Good luck, anon.
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>>491779712
siegfried or vaseraga
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>>491779814
You want to have sex with an underage My Little Pony character
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>>491779349
4-5 hrs with tons of breaks and BSing around. Are you trying to save yourself Anon?
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gapped
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diaphone is making versussy look kinda nice
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ISSA LOW TIER
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>>491780201
Yes. Been thinking of getting an online degree so I can find a WFH job.
Sounds comfy as fuck.
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xewom...
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>doesnt compete
>washes every actual pro with a day 5 mid tier character
apologize
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>>491780463
he does compete
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>>491779951
go fuck yourself
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>>491780463
you mean:
>knowledge checks people with a new dlc character that does a minimum of 30% on every hit
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>>491780302
diaphone has never lied before!!!
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>>491780648
just like my A rank matches...
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meox
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>>491778314
Been looking for a match for 20 minutes and no fights. I'll happily give up if the game really -is- dead. Not like I can improve anyway. Was a good run of Grand Bruise
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>>491779951
out of 10!
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>>491780803
The cat gloves are too good man
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>>491780887
are you EU?
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>>491780887
Something is wrong with your game anon, consider deleting the gbvsr folder in your user/appdata/local/
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>>491766365
that's my parriedchang right there
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>>491780312
I get it. Getting my degree and job was my last hurrah before giving up socially. You have to accept you'll be in some kind of student debt if you're a burger
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>>491779897
thanks a lot man, i've been playing this game since vanilla on and off and wanna resume it now that sandy is coming and that luci is actually worth playing now, hopefully i'll be able to join in some vg sessions
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OILED UP BELIAL
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>>491781095
>if you're a burger
I'm not, so I'll take my shot.
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>>491778314
>Delete profile and choose to start higher up
>Will get beat back into D-Rank and have to do it again just to keep playing
This genre's fucking COOKED LMAO
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GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE
*meow*
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>>491781327
>Will get beat back into D-Rank and have to do it again just to keep playing
Why do retards keep insisting on talking in this general when they don't play the game.
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>>491780648
>minimum of 30% on every hit
lies
and there is nothing to knowledge check about her
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>>491781121
Glad to be of service, hope to see you around!
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>>491781475
There is literally everything to knowledge check about her. She's new.
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>>491781405
>Genre that attracts niggers
>Paired with fujoshits and gacha whales
The retardation is inevitable, one way or another
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2B downplay bros?
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Nier downplay bros?
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>>491781690
what is there yet unknown about her that you dont know at this point? 5U is plus? wowie
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>>491779428
Brazil is majorly white and brown
True blacks are a minority
Brown is a range but it's usually European features with darker skin, ie, hot as fuck
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>Versusia keeps getting results
>but is mid tier

the anti-zeta...
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bros?
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>>491782092
Your favorite e-celeb will get his shit slapped something fierce literally the next time he competes because people will have caught on by then. Just wait and see.
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versusia is the very first time anyone has ever had to respect a zoner in rising, please understand it will take time for 66L sloppas to figure out how to fight her.
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>>491782260
bro it's a country of dysgenic mutts, with african european and asian features
>>491782307
that always happens with diaphone, but it's not a big deal. he's like a benign version of sonicfox
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I hope they buff 66L even more, these nigger zoners spamming their low fL into RS on wakeup on every knockdown that can't be reached by meaty 66L are so annoying. They should also make sweeps universally 8f or longer so they can't contest immediate 66L resets.
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>>491779951
someone should post or send this to one of the twitter troons to get more people mad at him
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>>491779918
Sieg and Vaserage both have somewhat unconventional combos, they can't just do c.H/c.M into H special three times over like some other characters can.
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Ladiva upplay sisters?
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>>491782260
And where do you think the browns come from anon?
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>>491780887
There's something wrong with your game man. My friend started playing at D in a much less populated region and he was finding multiple people to play
Maybe try again another time?
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versusia isn't a zoner character, shes a fnaf character.
she jumpscares you until you die and has random lore behind her that probably doesn't make any sense.
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Le Nerfed Nier XDDD
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>>491782567
Did they make yuel a zoner next timetraveler chama?
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>>491782412
You don't have to respect any her shit though, everything except H pillar loses to roll.
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>>491782412
she gets outzoned by belial though..
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>>491782307
>starts being a retard out of nowhere
i dont really care much for diaphone. i just asked a question. and you failed to answer. and deflected to some random bitching
ggs
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>>491782753
Poortuguese niggas fucking tight native pussy
>>491782508
African features are rather rare
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I fucking hate Ladiva. That freak benefits so much from fraudulent ass BC.
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oops
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>>491783038
I don't know what you want me to tell you, when a character is new literally everything about them is a knowledge check because people literally don't know what she fucking does. You can't even lab characters you don't own so it's all learning on the job during actual matches.
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>>491782912
Would be far better than her current state desu. Ferry is bottom tier too but just by virtue of being a zoner she's still viable.
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>>491783143
Thanks Belial for your input.
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>>491783108
>Poortuguese niggas fucking tight native pussy
lol. White-black browns are the majority of the population anon. You've been in Lala Land too long.
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>>491783345
we should let yuel have a fireball... also she should have an install that summons another yuel on the other side of the screen... perhaps societte who mirrors her actions.
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>>491782640
Someday I will send what I have but I don't want to do it too early. That person needs to be GONE, so dropping all of this shit at the right time when there's momentum toward getting rid of them is key
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I am so fucking tired of losing to Vas holy shit I hate this character so much.
If he doesn't already have soul forge stocked up, does his 5U have any armor?
Does his 5U combo on normal hit or only on counterhit? If I hit him during 5U and he's armored and I get hit back then that probably counts as a counterhit right?
I don't even know where to start with coming up for a plan for him, he feels like the strongest character in the game sometimes and he's just always invincible and nothing works.
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gamera lost to THIS?
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Don't use the cat gloves, frying pan, baseball bat, fans or Charlotta's oni thing. That's CHEATING
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>>491783673
cringe
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>>491777041
Go to the big open lobbies (the ones with all the arcade cabinets) and look for low rank people with blue and green squares to fight. Most of the actual beginners are in the open lobby or casual queue rather than ranked queue.
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>>491783741
his walk > U has armor, and his ult skills have armor without a buff up. you have to play like an aggressive ape against him or he'll just run a train on you after setting up. yes it's stupid
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>>491783673
based
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>>491779951
>>491783673
Literally who the fuck are any of these people?
Both the Discord user and the character herself.
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Elsa downplay bros?
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>>491783673
Irredeemably based, doing God's work anon
If I may suggest something, digging up his trip in here and looking for racism should be a good one. Niggas HATE racism.
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>>491784160
Some retarded dude is samefagging
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>>491784160
>user
That's nezumiku
>the character
Toddler character from My Little Pony
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Battle of the Gamera Killas
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You fags are as bad as the trannies.
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>No character feels good to play in this shit
Granbros wtf...
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>>491783894
NYA~
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>>491784271
she's not a toddler she's an elementary schooler get it right chud
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gawdlike
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>>491784295
beatrix sama.. forgive me.
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>>491783894
*BONK BONKs this post*
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>>491783673
Very based. Belial mod could have been enough fire but Xerom just had to open his mouth.
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>>491784447
sounds like a (You) problem, chief
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Do you get any particular rewards for playing as Lunalu at all?
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>>491784841
Nyes, you get a funni potato in the background who occasionally goes CHOTTO CHOTTO and lusts after Homoknights.
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>open stream
>belyle
>close stream
Do these niggers not have ears?
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>>491784841
You haven't beat Granblue if you didn't reach grand masters playing Lunalu with all 4 Homoknights selected
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>>491784738
The amount of slurs helps a lot too
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>>491785241
nezu is all of those things so she can say it.
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>>491785336
nezu is hispanic
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>Be-LIE-all
>SEE-ox
>BEE-ay-trix
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>>491785479
>BEE-hellzebeb
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>>491784841
>>491785017
See the heat she's generating? Literally flooding
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>>491785479
Bear Suzie
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>>491785479
>HEHEHEHE I CHEESED MY OPPONENT WITH MY RETARDED NORMALS AND DUMB ASS ATTACKS, IT'S SO FUNNY HITTING THEM WITH 2U TEEHEE XD
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>>491785545
>>491785220
>>491785017
whats her lore is she of breeding age or something
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>>491785479
How do you say them?
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>>491785545
Siegfried-sama's raw cock...
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>>491774193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQq9IBOps8c
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>>491758396
Is Bridget the mascot or are thousands of people butthurt about a character that existed in the first place all the way back in the 90's.
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damn this Kil guy kinda trash
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>>491785854
>he doesn't know the bridget fiasco
keep it that way
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>>491785854
>Bridget
>90s
Go away
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>>491785908
focus on the game kil
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>kil switched to belial from mommy
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>>491785908
he's the definition of ranked monster/online warrior
beats 99% of ranked masters
loses to actual top players every time
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Making evading BC have the RS slowdown is such a simple, intuitive, elegant change that would make the game ten times better...
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>>491785854
Don't read my post if you want to remain in blissful ignorance

The newest game in the franchise changed Bridget from being a femboy to an MtF transgender. Thousands of people are extremely butthurt about this like you said, but there are also a ton of people taking Bridget as their trans rights mascots (many of whom have never even played a Guilty Gear game including Strive). Arcsys has smartly capitalized on this popularity by featuring Bridget in more merchandise and promotional material than even Sol or Ky at this point, they are the SINGLE most widely promoted character in Guilty Gear in 2024
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>>491786321
Do you want Ladiva to be top tier that badly?
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>versusia a mid tier
>midscreen combos with perfect corner carry
>50/50s
>ultra cancer zoning
>full combos off Medium specials
>insane damage
>filled with knowledge checks
this is the biggest general of downplayer I've ever seen all of you fucking neck yourself, they added another top tier and you niggers will keep downplaying her and that's how Nier managed to be SSS tier for 8 months.
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>>491750486
i make less than 2k a month
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>>491786321
preach bro
been saying it since january im pretty sure
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how do you lose with belial lol some serious effort from kil right there
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>>491786321
Please understando, one patch per japanese baby made
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>>491786421
>>midscreen combos with perfect corner carry
stock and 50%
>>50/50s
lol what?
>ultra zoner can-
ah never mind, you are just a shitposter/bad player who knows nothing about anything
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This is your top 1?
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>>491785754
Bae-lee-all
Sees
Bae-ah-trix
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>>491785628
>this nigga didn't watch his toes
LMAO
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stupid cat...
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>>491786321
This is the same company that released Grand Master as a comically rigged rank after SF6 Legend they don't know what they're doing
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you wouldn't hate a kot
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>>491786686
stfu fucking gay ass carried ass nigger ft10 right now downplaying nigger ass bitch you will cry when versuasia will top1 every major like all you faggots did when you hyped up bea like a savior then cried and shitted like faggot bitches why you responding to me fucking scrub nigger
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the spinner combo....
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>>491786830
Yes. You were saying?
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>Shar-lotta
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>>491785754
>Belly-al
>Shizu
>Bae-ah-trix
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>>491787080
lol
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>>491787164
Nothing about that had anything to do with his buffs, that was just Seox getting gapped
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>>491787080
uh oh poopy..
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>>491787080
holy kek, bea players are retarded AND unhinged
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Short-lotta
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Did Hava not play yet? Beelzebub probably destroys Luci
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>>491787080
more melanin in this post than brazil
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KUMBHIIIIIRAAAAA
VIKALA MADE POOPY
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>>491787240
Yeah that had more to do with Seox nerfs, he wouldn't have died in at least 2 of the rounds if he wasn't Abel health now
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>>491787410
t. Beelzebub
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>>491787465
Brazilians are white
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>Top 1
>Losing to Vira
yeah I don't think so bros
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>>491787534
>if he wasn't Abel health now
100% deserved
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I love commentators talking about shit as if they are qualified to speak on the decisions of top players
Little niggas, there's a reason why you're talking about the game instead of playing it
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>>491787670
Yes, very white indeed my fellow brazilian we are true aryans
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>>491787858
Sajam would smoke you at any game
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The fat black man is playing our whore wife now?
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>>491787936
definitely not in this game considering he couldnt get out of S+
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>>491787959
Fat, black, gay and a furry.
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>>491787936
Nah, I'd just buy some Chipotle™, thus indebting him to me and forcing him to throw.
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Been AFK in matches for the past hour waiting to get banned since they said this, and they STILL AREN'T REMOVING ME FROM THIS TRASH YET? HELLO? ARE THESE NOTES FAKE?
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haven't played granblue in 6 or 7 years but i saw rat OP and wanted to say she's cute
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aiiiie vira blue shit neutwal skip
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>Bepaw
>can't play Ferry, switches to Nier
>Ferry and Nier nerfed, switches to Metera
You know, if you're just an average player and you pick up Nier/Metera/Ferry I can chalk it up to just you liking the character, but this nigger? I'm sure this nigger either
Doesn't actually like to play the game
or
Doesn't like letting people play the game or interact
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>>491788028
if he wanted to he would
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>>491788128
what it was referring to is people plugging during matches, not afk'ing in queue.
Yes it's retarded and unclear.
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>Everyone said Team Coach Steve was unfairly stacked
>Getting washed by nerfed Seox and fucking Vira
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>>491787778
nyo.. i wyould syay nyou dyidn't earn it..
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>>491788279
Well shit. I figured throwing games intentionally and repeatedly and boosting people would get me kicked. I'm too lazy to plug.
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>>491787203
>>491787280
>>491787324
>>491787465
enjoy your dogshit dead ass kusoge grandshitters lmaooooooo so fucking bad cant reach 2k after a seasonal patch the actual state of gacha coomers, the fucking shame of the fgc where japanese oldheads get grouped by 17 years old americans
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>>491788443
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granpoopers.. how will we ever recover?
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>>491788443
no wait, don't go. come back
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zooey the bane of retards.
its over for charchar.
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sara
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so fucking satisfying seeing an ape get outplayed. fuck vira man
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ONION GANG
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GET ON THE BOAT V2?
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>>491789029
mindbroken
total vigger victory
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seethe kamachuno tard
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FUCK SCAMAYA
no skill, just spam scam after scam until it works
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>>491788443
gacha players aint playing GBVS LMFAO
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based, kill zoi
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>>491789020
BADA!
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>Gran's dragon is named Vyrn
>Zooey's dragons are named Dyrn and Lyrn
Who wrote this crap
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>>491789472
zooey wrote that
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>>491789472
Someone post the Syrn comic, I forgot to save it.
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ewwww
closing the stream
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why is this negro so fucking gay
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>>491789604
oh, now I get why the water was called syrn
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>>491788237
>Ferry's nerfed
Ferry's still a fucking chore and unfun to fight against. Is Metera really the way to not have to interact with the game if you don't really like playing it? Cause I need some of that. What's the tech?
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>>491789701
zoi players truly are just like her
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>>491789637
>why is a strive player gay
? ? ?
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HOLY fuck that combo used two ultimates and did no damage
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JUST 66L DUDE
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watching this nigger mashing with buffed belial with that skin and winning is the worst
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>>491790069
special cancelled ult skills have always been shit unless you get a bunch more big hits after like soriz U punch. the patch didn't change the damage of that combo
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Ferry is dumb. This isn't how you fight people.
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>>491790480
special cancelled ult skills don't cause a damage penalty
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Grimnir's damage is so fucking high for no reason
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>>491790631
ISSA LOW TIER
HE NEEDS IT
>>
GUIRRTY...
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>>491790631
Yeah, Grimnir's corner damage is like Lucilius level 5 damage but he has it all the time
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>grimhomo mashing his airdashes like a tard
>commentator: ZAMN THE MOVEMENT FROM ZANE..
this character makes anyone look good huh
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>>491790718
DAS RITE
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>my main got a bunch of changes and I need to spend more time with her to get used to them and maintain my skill
>but also want to try out Versusia more
It's a complicated feeling
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Grimnir requires execution, spacial awareness and mind games to do well. Every SINGLE Grimnir win is 100% earned.
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>>491791095
Yeah, both Grimnir and 2B are fighting slow ass grounded characters with full loony toons movement it's retarded
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There's still so many fuckups with this game despite having such promise and moments of brilliance it's truly frustrating
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>>491790546
it was so hype seeing him do that combo
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Anywhere on screen wallslams are a fucking dogshit mechanic
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>>491791171
>previous main got buffed to high tier
>versusia is probably weaker than he is, but she is much cooler to me
its ova
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lmao should have super'd retard
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OUGI
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>>491791219
If it wasn't for the fact that you can just collide with people with the air dash and always be + I might agree with you
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>>491791219
DAS RITE
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>>491791219
Let me guess, you're that S4 Grim that couldn't find any games earlier, right?
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PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO NOTICE

QUICK ZANE

THROW THE GAME A BUNCH
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Grimnir requires execution (IMMA f.H) spacial awareness (IMAA H SEALS) and mind games to do well (IMMA FLY AND SKIPPA NEUTRAL) Every SINGLE Grimnir win is 100% earned (IMMA 50/50 INTO A 50/50)
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it'd be really funny if even after all the buffs the tier list for this game was the exact same because the top characters are just designed to be too fundamentally strong
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This is scripted
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>>491791730
No, I'm just someone able to use simple logic.
If Grimnir was as good as you people claim he would be much, much more common. But he isn't.
It REALLY is that simple.
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>>491791982
Retarded logic.
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>Been playing DNF Duel I'm rusty
Jesus fucking christ if you're playing bad just own up to it. What is up with people putting excuses in their player card
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I'm really tired of getting that Ikea ad with the fat negress whispering for 40 seconds bros
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>>491792138
zoomers dont know what accountability is
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>>491792138
I love the "learning leverless" option select
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imagine reading player cards
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>>491792278
>he doesn't have ad block
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>>491792138
but I AM rusty...
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>>491792117
OK retard
So he is this amazingly strong character who is also super easy to use, but people still don't play him becase... BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T OK?
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Shart Shitstem Turds "games" were never good
Can't believe people find this shit engaging when it has less depth than SF2
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>>491792430
He's an annoying faggot who looks dumb as shit. Simple as.
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They really buffed this character lmao what a kusoge
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>>491792138
I mean, I own up to it and people don't care. Why not make an excuse that people MIGHT fall for?
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>>491792278
During TNS I saw some fucking ad of a disabled woman with no arm and some other weird shit. Usually I just get a gambling ad for a state I don't even live in.
Twitch fucking sucks.
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>>491792506
Why the FUCK would that stop people who want to tier-whore? Are you retarded?
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>>491792351
>Kikes at google disabled ublock origin and the new one doesn't block ads
>Twitch is now a hellscape and you're either paying for adremoval, or suffering ESL/DEI ads shoved in your face.
Worst part
>They time it. Whenever some hype shit or actual gameplay is happening instead of commentators blowing cock on the microphone, the ads drop THEN AND THERE
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>picked a zoner against sheesh
deserved
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>literally cannot do anything for 4 rounds straight
strong character
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wyell wyell wyell it looks like my team wins anyway
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>>491792768
she is a heckin OP broken zoner with 50/50s!!!!!!!!!
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>>491792768
That's every round for me. At least you get to play the game sometimes. If I try, I'm dead and wasting my time.
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>>491792801
zooey always wins in the end
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>zoi just wants to let her dragons mog six
lmao
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>>491792695
Actually not unheard of
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Zoi is Shirtless Team last hope, she must bada her sara like she never did before
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i play this game windowed at 800x600 with no sound and on a xbox controller while having a asmr twitch stream open.
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I am, what I am

But who
am
I?
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>mogged by a furry

zoi...
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>it's gonna be another top8 full of siegs and six patch
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>>491793125
Charlotta.
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>>491792952
Zoi jobbed...
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I felt nothing but dejection watching this team battle the game is still a bad joke of a fighting game
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>>491792138
A way to protect one's ego
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>>491792695
>Hmm, I could play a retarded faggot who's slightly harder than other top tier faggots
>Orr I could play an easy top tier faggot who doesn't like as retarded
Hmmmmmmm
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>>491779951
For me, it's Diamond Tiara.
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I felt nothing but excitement watching this team battle. The game is definitely the best fighting game of all time.
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does anyone want to play? I'm european and my character wears a comically large crown
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Six players really tried to downplay when there was like 5 of them in that fucking tournament lmfao
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https://www.twitch.tv/khalil_
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>>491793875
what rank?
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>>491793673
OK retard, whatever helps you preserve your ego when you lose to fucking Grimnir lmao
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>>491792315
At least that one is legitimate since it's actual adjustment period instead of one that only exists because of laziness
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>>491793876
that wasn't a tournament anon...
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>>491793875
id rather kill myself than suffer charlotta this late
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meaty M deadly flare
>tracks fullscreen
>wins against spot dodge
>wins against roll
>wins against reversal
>wins against walking
>wins against running
>wins against blocking because she's so far she can install again
>wins against blocking because off chipp damage
>can be followed by a frame trap leaving her +8 on block
>also a launcher
Imagine defending a character that can do this and be like "nah that's fair". Now tell me who in the cast can do this as well, my character definitely cannot ?
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>>491793927
GM (genetically modified to be one, I play like a S+)
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>>491794079
i don't know what the fuck deadly flare is
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>>491794017
Grimtroon cope.
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>>491794184
>n-no u...
LMAO
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>>491794079
you are plain wrong on multiple points so ill just call you retarded and move on
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>>491794246
Grimtroon cope, Part 2.
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>>491794256
>lmao u wrong
>doesn't say where i'm wrong
seething downplayer hypecucklord lmaoo enjoy being carried
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>>491794079
>wrong
>wrong
>correct
>wrong
>wrong
>wrong
>wrong
>correct
>wrong
>wrong
Impressive.
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>>491790570
Dunno, man, I think they do.
https://files.catbox.moe/2yv4b3.mp4
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>>491793897
>na niggers talking shit to each other on discord on stream
lol
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>>491794562
cute red charlotta!
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Versusia is a fucking AIDS character
>Le everything + or safe into crush everything normals XD I'm so heckin fair
Yeah get fucking ran down by Seox you fraud ass niggers
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>>491794827
>strong offense
>inexistent defense
sounds fair to me
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>>491794827
>>491794079
>>491787080
>>491786421
same guy btw
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>>491794827
>Run up to her
>Can they solve it?
>Y
This character's cancer
>N
I can't believe they picked a zoner and let me in!
>No in between.
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>>491794426
>tracks fullscreen
>wrong
stopped reading, holy hell people who posts in this general don't even play the game.
>muh muh but but ... almost fullscreen isn't fullscreen. You want a fuckign webm baboon to see how stupid you are.
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>>491795179
It doesn't track fullscreen
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So many kleshas today...
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>>491795179
You said it tracks fullscreen, when not only does it not go fullscreen, it also has a deadzone in close range. You're a mindbroken idiot playing a baboon character, I don't even know why versusia upsets you so much when you play the character that can slide under everything and shit out damage
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>>491795523
just ignore him.
he will probably continue having a meltdown regardless
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>>491795523
>carried nigger assumes I play another carried nigger character like he does
you people really have no saving grace
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What were your favorite parts of yesterdays tournament?
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>>491793897
reminder that when you lose to them in ranked they say shit 500x more foul than this
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>>491795923
The copious amount of Charlotta Versusia matchups in EU was funny
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someone in this stream sounds full on flaming gay
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>>491796262
Funny thing is there were only 2 Charlottas and I think 3 Versusias.
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>>491796262
I hated playing that shit
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>>491795852
>let's downplay another pay2win character again because we're coomer hypefags
>no wait why our game keeps bleeding player NO COME BACK ! NO IS SWEAR OUR GAME IS FUN NOOOOOO
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>>491795523
>this isn't fullscreen because .. it's just isn't OKAY
Granblueshitters are on another galaxy, no wonder everyone laugh at them, you fags are playing a spinoff of Sailor Moon S with how much you defend retarded shit no other modern game has.
Granblue Fantasy Versus Carried
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both 2 posts above are by the same person btw
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>>491795923
zoi on zoi violence
ii kanji dana
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>>491797005
yes and ? your arguments ?
You want me to add a tripcode or something because at no point I was denying samefagging retard gachacoomer.
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>>491795903
>carried nigger assumes I play versusia
you baboons really have no saving grace
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Untreated mental illness is some serious shit.
I feel kinda bad for those who have to interact with people like this face to face.
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>>491796667
fighting games are fundamentally unfun and will always bleed players
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>>491797431
*punches kokoro so hard she becomes dust*
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>>491796912
Correct, that's not fullscreen. Ready to admit you're wrong?
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>>491797551
What the FUCK
Why do you hate the PriConnes so much...
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wtf is this true?
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>>491797892
no, shes talking about a mid
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>>491797551
MOOOOOODS
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>>491797892
Beatrix is smart!
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The only thing that bothers me about Versussy is that she's a hodgepodge of colors and animations
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>>491797454
Strive hasn't and you people will only respond with "TRANNY GAME DOESN'T COUNT", give me one reason Granblue was at 500 average before the patch in barely 9 months.
>>491797623
>move forward 1 pixel
>now hits fullscreen
>H version hits fullscreen anyway
At this point there is no value to argue. Other fg players will comeback to Granshit, fight against scrubs hypefags playing retarded gimmickfest broken top tiers dlc characters at launch, become frustrated granblue player have no footsies, no execution, no mechanics and rob all of their win by pressing 66L before them, leave this kusoge, and the game will die in 2 years like its predecessor.
Going back to KamiStrive the superior ArcSys game.
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>>491798227
See you tomor- no wait, you'll still be here.
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>Vane does 214M
>block it
>try to poke
>he does another 214M
>it goes over my poke
Fuck downplayers
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I refuse to be gaslit into thinking this character is bottom tier
>66H starter
He can do the same shit with off a jumpin
https://x.com/Economies_GOD/status/1827681965761540580
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>>491798227
Go shill your garbage somewhere else.
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>>491798227
>Strive
tranny game doesn't count
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>>491798490
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>>491798336
Try to poke with something that doesn't have 30 frames of startup next time?
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I love Strive AND Granblue!
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>>491798923
Yeah just poke from full screen
retard
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66Ms that beat throws are the most retarded fucking shit in the game
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>>491799560
I'm not the one struggling against Vane
You fucking retard.
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>>491800249
better tourney results than Luci and Belial so far just saying
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When everything is the most retarded thing in the game, nothing is.
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>>491800229
You wouldn't last 2 nanoseconds in vanilla GBVS lol.
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>>491800987
Fortunately I don't have to because that game's fucking dead
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>>491789604
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BBC (Big Bunny Carrot)
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>>491801091
Got 'em.
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Just recruited 2 scrubs for the game, that makes it 4 in total i have added to the playercount
The Free version is pulling it's weight.
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>>491801294
Thank you
Zoi is so funny...
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Zoner with bad anti-airs is an oxymoron on the same level as slow rushdown or easy-to-block mix-up character. If a character is actually supposed to be a zoner, them having bad anti-airs means they are effectively dysfunctional and unable to fulfill their archetype. If you think that zoners need to have bad anti-airs to balance their kit, you are extremely new to fighting games and probably started with Rising.
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>>491801497
All my friends tried the game and quit...
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>>491801830
>Nier poster
>No friends
Pottery.
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>>491798227
Strive is what gave away your post being bait
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>>491801778
>If you think that zoners need to have bad anti-airs to balance their kit, you are extremely new to fighting games and probably started with Rising.
I started with Rising and completely outskill you.
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>>491802032
I just mentioned having friends, though??? Just not to play Rising with.

Your Nier hate is CONSUMING you. Nier OWNS you. You're MINDBROKEN.
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sajam said zoners aren't fun
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>>491763420
Totally not Texan
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>>491798227
Based
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Sajam fucked my black roomate.
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I made a gay porno with hats on together with Sajam, Chipotle funded it.
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sajam said you should jump off a bridge
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>>491802032
that hurt my feelings
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thanks... i guess...
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>>491803085
Help "her" choose a main by spamming nothing but "CAGLIOSTRO CAGLIOSTRO CAGLIOSTRO CAGLIOSTRO CAGLIOSTRO CAGLIOSTRO CAGLIOSTRO CAGLIOSTRO " in her chat until you get banned.
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>>491801778
hmmm, now that i think about it, you may be right. did dhalsim ever have good anti airs?
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>>491803243
Dhalsim has Ferry 2H (note: in the Alpha games you actually could air block unlike most SF titles so it's even more comparable) and Yoga Flame which has a bajillion active frames. He's arguably not always a zoner though, in some games he has top-tier rushdown with his drill pressure
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Let's pretend you have an easy as fuck character to play that, however, sucks major dick so they're always at disadvantage. Very simple moveset, however just underpowered and cannot win against an opponent with a similar skill level but better character.

Wouldn't that make them hard to play?
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>>491803789
No, it would make them hard to win. Not hard to play.
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>>491803789
Not really. an example outside of fightan is Heavy from TF2. He's braindead easy to play but he sucks. Skill doesn't really factor in there
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i've never lost like that to you before this patch sucks
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STOP AFKING IN GRAND BRUISE
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>>491804893
Stop crying.
- Superior Player
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>>491804960
that is not what ferrygawd would say die nigger
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>>491805058
>he lost to Ferry
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>>491798227
>Strive hasn't
According to STEAMDB, STRIVE's peak was 31,156 players. The 24 hour peak was 2,696, so a 91% drop.
Granblue's all time peak was 7,278 players. 24 hour peak was 1,467. So, a 79% drop.
How is that not bleeding players?
Also just for curiosity's sake, Tekken 8 drop off was 88%.
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Amazing that they didn't touch Luci's dogshit teleports
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>>491805289
already had a losing MU pre-patch and it objectively ferry got buffed while I didn't
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>>491805416
Who do you play? Curious, won't make fun of you (other anons will though).
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>>491805346
>Please ignorer that Rising's was <400 game less than a month ago
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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god im so bad at bruise now..
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>>491805491
cag
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>>491805369
Yeah, idk how Grande hits anyone with that shit unless the level of "rando masters player" is even lower than NA
Sometimes I can hit people with M and L if they're just autopilot or asleep at the wheel but H is fucking useless, at best I just get BC'd and planted on my ass for my trouble
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>>491805513
Yeah, now I'm waiting for you to tell me how a 79% dropoff is worse than a 91% dropoff
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>>491805513
>copies /gbvsg/ talk
Strivekek cannot insult our game without filling his mouth with GBVSR cock. Interesting.
>>491805565
I can see it if you play her zonish like instead of a rushdown gorilla (which is where she excels).
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>>491805369
Teleport is not something you should throw out randomly, it is perfectly fine as a tool to call out and punish other moves.
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>>491805565
LUHMEOW KYS TRANNY
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>>491805369
This but with Bubz.
Auto-lose button.
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>>491805565
>******** is complaining about Ferry now
Ironic
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>>491805676
>Comparing a game in a content lul to a game that just got it's fist major patch and another DLC character 5 days
KEKYPOW! Keep trying lil man
>>491805697
>copies /gbvsg/ talk
Holy newfag
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How does Beelzebub handle the Charlotta matchup?
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>>491804893
The side swap helps alot. ggs.
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>>491805996
bwo, strive just got a balance patch AND a new, long awaited character.
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>>491806015
Like everyone else.
Mash harder than her.
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>>491806115
Damn, it's October already?
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>>491805996
>Holy newfag
Show me 5 posts in the Strive general with "KEKAROO", "KEKYPOW" or other variants before December 2023.
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>>491806426
Why Strive? I'm from /fgg/.and the first case of "kekypow" that was archived is from /fgg/.
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/416908791/#q416931093
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You know what, this guy makes a good case, "muh numbers!" are the best criteria to decide which games to play.
I am off to play SF6. It has the biggest numbers so I'm sure it will be fun!
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>>491806801
Fair enough. I guess it makes sense /dbs/ users would play fighting games.
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>>491807007
Did you forget about DBFZ?
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>>491805790
You can ONLY throw out H teleport randomly/as a read though unless you're just banking on shit reactions, it's too slow to punish anything other than like a whiffed DP
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>>491807071
Always looked like a game that no actual Dragonball fan would play to me since they'd prefer stuff like Budokai Tenkaichi.
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>>491807142
I use U teleport to punish fireballs somewhat often.
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How do I get better when I'm Yamcha (Better than most people but weak in the grand scheme of things) but all my opponents are Tien/Goku
Like I can go into online lobby/casual and basically never lose but I get gapped by the pros/their buddies is this just my limit?
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>>491807207
That doesn't make any sense.
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>>491807542
No one wants to read these retarded humblebrag posts
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>>491807542
You are the 0.1%
To get to the 0.01% you need to put some serious effort to make the gap disappear
The 0.01% are either supernatural freaks or people with 1000 hours in the game AND 10k hours in fighting games as a whole, and this is the easiest fighting game to date so that can immediately tell you who you're trying to defeat. It's kinda like John Wick killing you with a pencil
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>>491807207
Budokai (Tenkaichi) is all about quantity over quality, I do think it's great that you can play as random jobbers and one-off cameo characters in those games but they're not even that great at fanservice because every character by necessity has to be homogenized to the point that 90% of the roster has generic, shared specials and supers. DBFZ has a smaller roster than those games but every character that appears is lovingly crafted and great efforts were made to keep them faithful to their original depictions while being coherent, functional movesets.
A lot of people just don't like anime arena fighters in general, every One Piece/Naruto/etc. fan who also likes fighting games prays every day that they'll get an Arcsys adaptation and not a Cyberconnect2 anime brawler
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>>491805932
ive called the MU bad since cag's inception and guess what literally everyone actually paying attention has always agreed. Doesn't mean ferry is OP or whatever Cag just loses to zoners because she gets outzoned and isn't good at rushdown since she had no tools for it before 66L, in which she has a mid one that has a bad situation afterwards midscreen anyway.
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How do I get better when I'm shit? Playing more isn't helping btw
where do I get the gene
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>>491807998
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>>491808070
you're born with it or you're not
Diaphone was better in 30 minutes than you would be with 100k hours, just quit
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>>491808070
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>>491808157
Lol I really want to but I have no better game to play
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issa bottom tier
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NARMAYA ANONS
LADIVA ANON

ARE WE PLAYING
WHOS WITH ME
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>>491808070
Some practice, actual thinking really, and the mindset of I'm going to fuck you.
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>>491808623
>Can easily enforce their gameplan at any point in the match from anywhere and still has f.H
no
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>>491808623
Any character that has a fucking Air DP can not be anything less than A+ tier.
It's simply impossible.
Even Marvel3 devs had to remove the Iframes from Dante's falling hammer.
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>>491808715
i have around 45 mins to play videogame if you would like
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>>491809196
she literally lost that this patch because even the devs thought it was too retarded
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>>491809378
Based.
I will now accept Cag players.
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>helios destroyed nezu bussy
how can one man be so based
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>>491808715
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>>491809014
>i can't mash 66l and blue slime all day!? SHE'S BROKEN NERF HER NOW NOW NOW AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>491808143
What the FUCK was his problem?
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>>491809721
crazy part is he can still just mash 66M all day and *then* blue slime instead. Just too retarded to figure it out.
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>>491808238
MMMMMSSSSCCCCHHHHLLLLLLLRRRRRPPPPPPPP
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>>491809196
they removed all invuln frames from it and also made air trap place too far away to anti-anti-air as well. normal DP is now the most punishable one in the game and also the easiest, since it never takes her off the ground and they added more recovery (-30 now instead of -25)
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>>491809721
Meanwhile the cag player
>Set trap
f.H f.H f.H f.H spear f.H counterhit 80% combo gg shake my hand
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>>491810124
>fought against Cag today
>extremely overwhelming as usual
>yet the fact that her DP is just a fucking DP made everything enjoyable
That's all they needed to do, now she's actually fun to fight.
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>>491810134
>can't whiff punish the easiest button in the game
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>>491810134
making shit up i see
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUdpfdz3bdA
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So wait wait wait, Cag players unironically think they are not carried as fuck? This was not just a giant meme, it was 100% serious the entire time?
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>>491810315
yeah you never learned the matchup and she wasn't really nerfed that hard imo the changes are rather neutral. But everyone else got buffed and she was already dogshit if you know the matchup so she lost. You will still lose to me because you refuse to lab anything or even to just listen to the results of my labbing. You just lost a few excuses for why you will be losing to me. No more "all nezu does is spam airstalls" posting and I no longer have to reply "all you do is get hit by it"
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>>491810124
>normal DP is now the most punishable one in the game
Fuck off you downplayer, it has 4 active frames. Gran H DP has the same fucking recovery while also having six billion active frames, her and Djeeta's DP are far, far, far more punishable than Fagliostro will ever be.
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>>491810542
if you think it's a normal DP you've never fucking had to press it.
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>>491810486
carried by...dogshit corner carry, dogshit damage, dogshit traps, a nerfed "DP", and nerfed air stalls?
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>>491810715
He was obviously talking about Cag's metered DP, he specified normal DP to differentiate it from the air version which they were talking about.
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>>491810873
A simple "yes" would have sufficed.
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>>491809694
Ew, I don't wanna play with Anila/Yuel Anon
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491810873 isn't even me. that post was someone else lmao. thank god one person here sees through your script.
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>>491809196
This is a nice post, really puts things in perspective
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>>491810516
>yeah you never learned the matchup
More like:
>hey you should learn how to fight me. btw we're fighting in the middle of nettle but I'm immune to it
And now it's the same but without the nettle.
>You will still lose to me
I'm not on NA though.
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cagliostro is the one carrying people in a game that had *checks notes* pre meaty nier, belial, sieg, seox, lance, 2B, bea
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Cagliostro is ONE of the characters carrying people, yes.
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>"I don't want attention"
>half his posts are in first person
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>>491811441
bottom tiers don't carry people
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>>491811542
I agree.
That has literally nothing to do with Cagliostro though.
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>>491811342
only one of those characters got nerfed in any reasonable capacity, that being nier.
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>>491811008
scared?
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>>491810486
Anon. The creature that unfortunately inhabits this thread and posts about Cagliostro being weak is an unironic tranny.
You read that right; a tranny, a transgender, transsexual, a sexual deviant, a balding male who thinks he is a woman. Said deviant also gets banned from pretty much every community he partakes in. He still swears the problem is everyone else, not him.
His delusional cope about Cagliostro is the least of his concerns.
As an added bonus, watch him claim I'm his nemesis.
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>>491812269
KOHOKU
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who you're referring to as my "nemesis" both doesn't type like that and doesn't think I'm balding lmao you're the retard who tries to insult me by posting memes I laugh at in my own free time.
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>>491811342
Sieg carries less than Cag, both before and after the patch. This is an indisputable fact.
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>Know why I'm losing
>Don't care enough to fix the problem
Yeah, I desperately need a character.
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>>491811475
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>>491812564
>I need a character
here's one

you're welcome!
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imma
uuuhhhhhhh
slide
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>>491812538
>Sieg carries less than Cag, both before and after the patch. This is an indisputable fact.

KEKAROO
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>>491812538
This enrages the Cagfags but it's 100% accurate.
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>>491810486
Anon, you poor thing
You don't write textwalls THIS big as a shitpost
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>>491813082
This is kinda sad.

He's willing to help but he cannot comprehend he downplays Cag WAYYYYY too fucking much.

It's like GBVSR's Don Quixote.
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>>491813082
Holy kek is this a leftist meme?
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>>491811342
carries more than all those characters except nier, yes. not even lance frauds you out that hard. admit it, you were never skilled. you know it deep in your heart
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how did you lose as cag to a ferry, she cant even contest you in the air without beppo now all you need to do is spam jump and stall which is how you play anyways
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>>491813082
>I think Vane is undeniably better
Holy kek
So THIS is the retard in this thread who once told me Vane was a knowledge check character, and that he had a favorable matchup against Cagliostro. Those posts were completely serious then.
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>>491813361
He still thinks he's "le VanillaGAWD" while Cagliostro in Rising is a massive rushdown bitch that constantly forces you into her deadly setups and bullies you with f.H and her other tools. Just watch yesterday's Xerom vs Wavie's match and watch how Wavie plays her.
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ggs great games as usual
always havin' a good laugh
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>>491813361
the word gap doesn't even begin to describe it, it's a valley at that point
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Vane is a benchcheck character. You can only win against him if you bench 2pl8, if you can't you didn't actually win
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>>491813528
yeah it's almost like cag wasn't designed to play rushdown retard
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>>491813649
kek
Based.
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>>491813163
I agree, it's sad that he is still breathing.
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>>491812654
Yeah, no. I already know who I want and I would be playing her right now if this game wasn't ran by a disgusting faggot.
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>>491813656
Dynamite wasn't also designed to blow up people.

ADAPT.
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>>491813528
>Cagliostro in Rising is a massive rushdown bitch that constantly forces you into her deadly setups and bullies you with f.H and her other tools. Just watch yesterday's Xerom vs Wavie's match and watch how Wavie plays her.
This is how she is optimally played because her intended playstyle was nerfed into the fucking ground. Does not mean that playstyle is great either though, since she doesn't actually have any rushdown tools besides her mid ass 66L. Also approaching Ferry has always been what she is often forced into, even in Vanilla, which is why she lost and still loses that matchup, because cagliostro doesn't have sufficient tools for the job. Terrible reward on ferry's end made the MU not as bad as it used to be in Vanilla but now ferry is actually just stealing all the screen-space im busting my ass to get and its fucking annoying.
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>all this started cause ferry anon beat him and he didn’t even say anything the cag tranny brought it up
Can that one anon leak all her posts to the twitter troons already so this mentally ill freak can leave every where
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>>491813886
>ADAPT.

says the person complaining about fH and pointing to someone jumping like a retard and giving free rounds
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>>491813887
I don't see it, sorry. I feel like Ferry would literally suck balls if she ever got cornered by a Cagliostro, it's hard to escape her with a regular character, go figure if it's hard with a retard donkey who would miss her DP and has shit buttons to contest her f.H.
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>>491813539
damn that's a cool sheep
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>>491814167
>says [HEADCANON]
Not everyone is the same person broski.
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>>491814069
I'm never going anywhere. The twitter troons have cancelled me like 6 times now because they already know everything about me. This is why the posts haven't been leaked yet, he knows they're useless because he already knows that I'm completely open about everything that people hate me over. I will never be banned from brackets, I will never be pushed out of this general, and I will never be banned from maincord. Everyone and their mother has already tried to kill me and the furthest they can actually get is bans from their clique discords.
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>>491808715
ggs narm-anon! sorry I missed you nier-anon.
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>>491814227
long buttons contest f.H better than anything else, since the problem with dealing with Cag pressure is never speed (everything has massive gaps) it is range. Vs Ferry Cagliostro doesn't have her spacing traps anymore because of ferry's range. Ferry's shit DP is abusable but that is pretty much the case of everyone on ferry's block. And now when ferry gets the hit she gets the corner. And Cag has pretty bad defense herself.
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so much seething since the big meaty. chill
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For how vaunted Luci's supposed gawdlike neutral is people sure arent afraid to just run in on him
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what’s the ferry cag mu opinion from a non schizo
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>>491814920
that would require you to find both a sane ferry player and a sane cag. you might as well buy lottery tickets.
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>>491814069
The only way to get him to fuck off is mass report his accounts everywhere
Well, probably.
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>>491814920
it's very easy for ferry to stop cag from running her usual gameplan
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>>491815093
that's the problem, you have to report for behavior and report specific posts on everything now and it's not like he is breaking TOS anywhere, just being an insufferable tard.
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>>491814440
Reminder that the person in question got banned from the official GBVS Discord for six months because of how much CP they retweeted on Twitter. I've seen the archive of screenshots used for it and there's actual full penetration in there, really fucked up stuff
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>>491815457
pretty sure they would be in jail right now instead of banned from a shitcord if they were sharing CP
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>>491815682
Drawn CP technically isn't illegal in the state of Arizona where they live
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Who do I watch to learn Narmaya
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>>491815457
das gawdlike
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>>491815682
its a moralfag from twitter, they obviously mean loli art by that. I also never retweeted any penetration stuff because I don't retweet full NSFW just stuff that is ecchi at worst. I had some complete NSFW in my likes though but digging through that to get offended on purpose is schizophrenic twittard behaivor.
>>491815825
>this nigga thinks I live in Arizona
LMAO so glad I stopped sharing what goes on in my life in the past few years. I've moved twice since then shiwowamb. Sucks to suck!
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I like how we have an insane cag troon and an insane twitter troon who stalks him
Both of which for some reason think they are in good company
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91814440
Jesus Christ
Take your meds immediately
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>>491815983
but regardless of that lolicon art is legal where I live though just like it is in most of the United States. God Bless the USA.
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>>491815825
lolicon art isn't classified as CP anywhere in the united states, it's a twitter definition
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>>491815002
I think ferry anon is sane aside from willingly playing her in a game that’s not suited for zoning
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>>491816239
yeah it is never classified as that in the US but some states have it illegal regardless, mostly extreme redneck or extreme commie states nobody sane would ever choose to live in though. Even in those places though nobody ever gets in trouble for it because you know the law is actually concerned with going after people doing actual heinous shit instead of *reads notes* looking at a fucking drawing.
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why are you even playing a genre that features CP by your own definition? it's not exactly something you can say "wyell it's not that bad actually..." and look past, it's fucking evil lmao
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If you want to keep up with this shit might as well not bake it
let it die
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give me time to byake be patient
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>>491816419
No one gets into trouble because it doesn't matter what states say, the federal law around CP explicitly states it's not drawn characters.
That's why people gets antsy whenever federal rulings come into play because it overrules anything states would want to have jurisdiction over.
However, states can make things legal that is otherwise illegal federally, but then a federal agent would have to be the one to arrest you for it, a local police officer or a state officer would not be able to. Which is common when it comes to stuff like Weed since it's legal in a lot of states, but is still classified as an illegal substance federally. But when California first starts to have weed shops, the DEA actually raided those places as they were still breaking federal law. This can still currently happen at any dispensary.
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>>491816932
I've read like three stories of Americans getting booked over this but they were people who did something else as well so it seems like it was just tacking charges on to me. But yeah State vs Federal law is fucking wack and confusing sometimes, regardless its something I will never have to deal with since twitter schizos imaginations do not have any affect on reality. Just like my silly drawings don't lmao.
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Can a glowie arrest the troon for mental retardation?
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time for some gbvsr—
>lowain
>lowain
>200 ping charlotta
>anila (first bearable game)
>lowain
>lowain
>abel
>abel
>abel

I'm not having fun.
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>>491817253
im sowwy
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>>491817253
ggs learn the mu (I was lowain)
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>>491814440
They got SneedChungus for only things that you have also done
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>>491817283
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>>491817334
>Got SneedChungus
>Banned from NH shit
lmao be serious
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>>491809196
She never had a fucking air DP. And now that move doesn't even have i frames coming down.
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>>491805839
Bubs and getting hit after teleport, can't name a more iconic duo
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>>491814465
GGs Ladiva, Lance, and Vira.

I forgot to unbind taunt, and eating shit for fat fingers is a great reminder.
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>>491814920
Ferry wins until cag gets a rogue m spear and can apply pressure. Every character that can just disregard traps does well against Cag.
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SCHWARTZEEEE FANGEEEEEEEEEE
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>>491814920
why does it matter? in any case the deranged cagtroon has embarrassingly lost to honest neuch scamaya before and cried about it, you can pretty much assume his side of the opinion is always wrong
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>>491817283
>>491817283
>>491817283

I can tell you guys missed it because the thread isnt full of inane faggotry yet



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