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Big meaty notes
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=xg9_rosyyop

Versusia Character Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2OoiGWYFUk

PREVIOUS tournaments:

/gbvsg/ NA tournament 11th
August 24th 3:30 PT / 6:30 ET
https://challonge.com/jzhx3ax

/gbvsg/ EU tournament 6th
August 24th 12:00 PT / 9pm CEST
https://challonge.com/ty0xasd3

SilentOne tournament VOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMsX2TfHxlM
NA TOURNEY #11 VOD:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2233246575
EU TOURNEY #6 VOD
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2233246299

>Older Tournament VODS:
https://pastebin.com/y5xV4pqN
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>(un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby
To join, turn Crossplay off in System settings so that you're able to join Platform lobbies.
Then you can join the (un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby at Japan Platform Lobby 1. Image version of joining instructions @ https://i.imgur.com/bCHqtDL.png
Playstation players cannot join the lobby, use the room if needed instead.
>(un)Official /gbvsg/ Rooms
Usually has "gbvsg" as password (check thread). f2players cannot join so ask people to join the lobby instead.
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>Upcoming DLC
Versusia (20 aug), Vikala (october) will close out the pass, season 2 starts with Sandalphon.
https://youtu.be/4GqEX6Eqr34

New Belial Battle Pass Costume:
https://x.com/gbvs_official/status/1817149182618341539
>this week's F2P rotation
Gran, Nier, Sieg, Seox
>Latest Patch Notes
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=xg9_rosyyop
>Steam page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2157560/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus_Rising/
>Website
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/
>Resources:
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR
>Twitter hashtags
https://twitter.com/YamicornDMV/status/1709222479061745711
>Match replays
https://replaytheater.app/?game=gbvs

Previous Thread: >>491742905
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gran players are carried trash and im tired of pretending otherwise
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>>491817283
me on the left
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https://gamebanana.com/mods/537283
Reminder to install this or /ourgirl/ nezumiku will call you a slur
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>>491817569
AAAIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>491817283
Mom is awfully thick...
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>>491818048
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Kizzingtons they fucked my sandwich up again. I am going to snap. I wish my local sub place didn't shut down.
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>>491817607
getting called a faggot by nezumiku.... hhhhh
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>>491818603
I want to have my head sandwiched between those thighs...
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HAHAHAHAHA, I mean-
I just, I just-
I'm just gonna block you for playing Belial! HAHAHAHA! I'm not gonna play against him!!! HAHAHA!!! That's all!
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>>491815908
Any of the top Narmayas on the leaderboard are good enough. CanofSprite, KTang, Koyao, etc.
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>>491818924
kek
5 star post
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>>491818924
YOOL WATCH OUT HE'S ALREADY IN
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>>491818603
Tikoh says this
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>>491819239
No Belials. Only one allowed
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We posting doctors?
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>>491818924
my drink went down the wrong pipe
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>>491819560
Nyes
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this is nice thread
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>>491819968
it's pretty impressive how last thread was horrible towards the end, then someone bakes it and the thread is instantly great
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I just robbed Havaniceday, good time to stop for the night
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>>491820328
Its just a matter of time.
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>>491820494
Nyo...
Doctor, save us!
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Bros how dead is the stinky erune?
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i'm ok with belial
cagtroons and 2bniggers however deserve the rope
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>>491820914
Probably still good
Nier mains are just suffering the whiplash of having to actually play the game for the first time in their lives
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>>491821006
skill issue
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>>491817607
nezumiku only appreciates the sexualization of characters that can't consent
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this game would be more fun if ultimate DPs were the only DPs with iframes
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>>491821361
Anon...
You're not wrong, Niia probably stinks too but I'm pretty sure he means the fluffy one.
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>>491818924
But Belial won last tourney...
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Time to play some grub over a glass of wine
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>>491821006
t. homosexual
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>>491821006
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Dear Lucillius downplayers:
If your character is so mediocre why am I exclusively finding Luci players in ranked?
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>>491822465
Lucifer is cool as fuck so we are trying to make him work despite his obvious shortcomings.
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>>491822654
For me it's Vane
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Everyone should have a meterless reversal or nobody should have one
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>>491821594
I think I agree but I look at it differently.
I wish more characters were like Cagliostro, where you have a normal skill that turns into a metered reversal.
A DP serves only two purposes, either reversal or ending strings. Half the cast having a DP when they are limited to 4 specials serves no purpose other than homogenizing the game. And that's different from the game being ''easy'' or ''simple''. It just makes the game less interesting
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>>491822981
Zooey the jobber...
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I only played lucifer cause paradise lost was cool, but now I play mom cause her ssba is cooler
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OTOTOTO
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>>491823164
I just dont want to be forced to respect belial when he doesnt have to respect me
even when everything he does is scarier than anything I can do
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>>491823390
thread pruned
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>>491823262
Sex with moms
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>>491823638
You can't say that
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Speaking of Lucilius...

>PARADISE LO-ACK
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>>491823980
Didn't earned it
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>>491823980
>UFlip whiffed wakeup SSBA
I want a webm
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>>491823390
Thread redeemed
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>>491822465
Luci is about to become Top 1 or 2
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my schizo momwife
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>>491824342
shiwowamb...
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check this one out
MIAA-956
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speaking of lucilius
he's a man who wears high heels
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>he's not confident enough in his masculinity to wear high heels
LMAO faggot.
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>>491824129
I don't have a replay since he RQ'd. It really should have hit me since I was autopiloting, but I ran in so deep the flip was kind of late. I bet a 2L on wakeup would have caught me.
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>>491824774
If the FINISH text appears, that should count as a completed match.
I know in ranked, you will still get points and they will lose points if they DC too late like that.
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>>491823962
if you dont have an older sister than you are moms property
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So what are people doing to Luci teleport to make people call it useless? When I try to 2H the H version the timing makes me get hit by the M version instead, and if I decide to hold it I get schmixed by L into throw
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I'm starting to think this patch made the game more ass. Now a bunch of characters are a pain in the ass to play against
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>>491824580
Nothing wrong with that
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>>491824696
>mental gymnastics to justify crossdressing
bruh it's 2024 you don't gotta hide in the closet
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>>491824956
like who
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The random picture of Yuni doing Yunisonic in the new stage is so funny to me for some reason
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>>491824906
There's a fuzzy timing where you can hit the H/L version and block the M version. there's also options that can hit all followups regardless of timing but that's character dependent.
just set luci to do each one randomly when you reset in training mode to go practice. it's not suppose to be a mixup tool, it's more of a callout tool.
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>>491824342
La creatura
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>>491824956
or maybe you'll never be satisfied
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>>491824956
I think you don't like games where your opponent can play
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Most of Versusia's intro lines are kind of boring, but this one was kino. The delivery is great.
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>>491824896
It counted as a match, but it didn't save a replay for me. However, it DID save a replay on his profile. One minute.
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>>491825686
nice
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>having fun with friend
>versusia vs anila
>manageable
>they swap to abel
>quality of game instantly drops
holy fuck im gonna drop this dogshit again if i have to play either of these niggers again in ranked
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>>491825113
Like Avatar Belial, Lucilius, Katarina, Versusia, Eustace
>>491825360
It's hard to be when vanilla existed
>>491825454
If that means I don't like how offensive the game is while having weird design decisions like grab tech with mash or Brave counter then yeah.
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they should buff abel more
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>>491825818
Horse?
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>it was a vanillatard
AHAHAHAHAHA
i should have guessed
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>instead of getting a good costume in the next pass the stupid fucking rat will get it

I hate it
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>>491825818
Boy meets horse
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Literally what did Anila mean by this?
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>>491826413
2 costumes next pass cycle since one will be store DLC, believe
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>>491826050
>bad characters being playable made the game worse
Strange take. Especially when you put characters like Avatar and Kat in the same area. I think you just liked occasionally getting free wins.
>Game is to offensive while having braindead defensive options
huh
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dont understand why id ever want to voluntarily go into yuel's stance now. It's just asking to get blown up because you lose normal movement and the parry got giganerfed to something you need to win a hard read on. I'm pretty sure the parry becoming manual ruined all the td.2M safejab setups too.
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>>491826447
why do her tits look way bigger than normal
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>>491826278
What's wrong with Vanilla?
>>491826548
>I think you just liked occasionally getting free wins.
I would have played Nier or Sieg had that been the case
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>>491826581
Thats the point I keep making.
Going into stance on its own is a risky decision, then you have to make a second risky decision in the parry which is very punishable on whiff.
Without weighing the risk reward at all, just having to make two decisions that carry any risk reward at all is awful.
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>>491826803
>What's wrong with Vanilla?
The game itself?
Not much.
The people who can't let go of it?
A lot.
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>>491824129
I don't know what I was thinking with that stupid wavedash, but it worked out.
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>>491826803
Ok so you liked free wins without people thinking you liked free wins.
Kat, Abel, and Eustace are such completely different experiences.
Like I get Abel and Eustace, and hell I main Abel (sorry) but Kat?
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>>491827001
Honestly you are right. But in my defense this game looks exactly the same besides a few new shiny effects so I don't see how surprising it is that it gets compared a lot . I should have let go on 1.0 probably but the battle passes kept me in
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>>491826743
I think it's more of the way she looks in game that hides her power level. Cinematics like intro/outro/ssba let her true power on full display
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is it really so wrong..... to be a katalina player?
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>>491827167
SCAMCHANG DOES IT AGAIN
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>>491827167
that's my scamchang
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>>491826743
Looks about right to me.
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>>491827832
Holy sheep milk
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>draw a cow
>call it a sheep
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Queue for grandbruise or the kot gets it
*points gun at kot*
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Bros send help I want to learn Naru
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The ranked system in this game is dumb. DUMB
Master Rank players have absolutely no fucking business playing against anyone in S+
The moment you reach a rank, all your characters should be ONE rank below, not two.
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>>491828050
just go play here then
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>>491827832
Aren't her breasts too big?
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>>491827167
Scammaya...
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>>491828167
But where do I learn combos and neutral and stuff
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>>491827832
thats a pig
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>>491828181
Nyo
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>>491828047
okay. for you, i will do this.
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>>491828047
Seriously?
Are you guys going to let the kot die?
881536
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>>491828356
replays

heres the foolproof way of learning a character
pick them in training mode, spend like 30 minutes fucking around with their buttons
go to the world lobby and randomly play people a bunch (you will probably lose)
go watch replays, and steal some combos (1 corner combo, one anti air combo, one midscreen combo)
go back to training mode, practice those
go back to the lobby and randomly play people a bunch (you will probably lose less)
rinse repeat
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>he believes neutral is real
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>>491828669
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>>491828669
I JUST fought a charlotta that had ''i dont play neutral'' in his profile
...then i fought another charlotta
......then i fought another charlotta
WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE PLAY THIS GOBLIN
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>he believes neutral isn't real
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>>491828779
>mobile as fuck
>cute as a button
>hits hard
>cool weapon
>YAH
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>>491828050
She had some changes in the recent patch, so you'll have to look at the current replay boards for newer combos. You'll also have to take Youtube guide videos with a grain of salt since some of her stuff was nerfed (and other stuff buffed).
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>>491829110
This is why I hate new patches. Learning is so hard
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I GOT FUCKING SCAMMED DAYO
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>jyobbed to monster wave
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i jobbed to my own bomb
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thoughts on wavie's tier list?
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JYOIN THYE LYOBBY
881536
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>>491829548
now thats some good shit
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>>491827167
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>>491829721
kek
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>>491829708
>Lancelot in B tier
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Man that axe in the bridge at the first stage did some work
laughed my ass off
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>get rollbacked on lasers
>die
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sasuga kot
last one for me
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>>491830329
same, ggs even if we job.
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>>491822465
because you're in the low ranks where all the lucis are instead of masters
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>>491825204
I'm looking at the frame data and this doesn't seem true. 22M hits on frame 30, while 22L recovers after 39 frames. Most 2H attacks are 11f, so while there is a very tight 2f timing where you could beat 22L into throw with 2H it's not a true punish
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>>491830443
I hope Zooey does well on her human biology exam!
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>>491830662
both 22L and 22M lose to plain mashing and 22H is reactable
His teleport is not good as a just "do it" tool.
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>>491830443
Can you impregnate an onion?
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>>491830662
go to training mode, stop just reading frame data
it's fuzzyable
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Blue must be pissed rn
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>>491831079
literally who
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wagger how could u
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>>491831253
forgive me... I wanted my screenshot...
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Holy based
Thanks for coming.
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>>491831405
>>491831460
ggs we did it gang
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>>491830765
Is there a tell to what version of the teleport it is early into the move's animation?
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>>491831510
Only H has different timing, I forgot what the number is but you can count to like 1-2 or something after he vanishes and if he hasn't re-appeared by then it's H
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>>491831405
its okay, i was content the moment i punched the joy at the start and sealed his defeat.
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g/526670/
haven't seen one with this quality in a while
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>>491832539
her eyes are nice
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seeing this robomi mini game bug on the vs cabinet reminds me they still never fixed the rematch bug either
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>>491832539
What is this? A granbruise code?
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>>491833130
keep rockingu!
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>>491833130
I must be lucky to have not been hit by this yet. Did you guys play the minigame before fighting someone?
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>>491833204
t. Karl
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Luci more like Ramlethal (Still waiting for her to win something btw)
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>>491833542
???
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I hate that robomi is playable on normal cabs
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>>491833520
nope the only thing i did before playing was use the ranked cab first
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>>491830784
No you have to ask Cosmos to make you a daughter
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So what do we think of the patch bros
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>I'll be good at it
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>>491834401
Not enough but still better than before, and in a direction I like.
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How to stop sucking cock at the game
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>>491834758
You tell me anon I went from S++4 to S+3 in this new patch
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>>491834758
rank
character
favorite chinese cartoon
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>>491834401
if they just didnt randomly buff mid tiers it couldve been great but now I have to deal with even more faggot characters in a slightly less appalling system.
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>>491834758
Play with the gms/masters here and ask them what youre doing wrong.
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>>491835003
master
Cag
Mahiro
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damn there's two of us?
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>>491835003
Zoi
S5
Sayonara zetsubou sensei
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>>491835697
wow nice your perfect as you are
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>>491835003
S3
grimnir
puella magi madoka magica
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>>491834401
It's great really, one or two retarded decisions but mostly gave us what we've been asking for
Haven't kept up with SF6, but I can at least say with certainty that this game is in a better state than Strive.
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>>491835003
master/grand master
versusia
joshiraku or gun x sword idk
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>>491772324
Hey man you fucking lied to me, his f.M is 7f after all. Fuck you, I took you at face value when you said that
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>>491836250
sorry I was thinking of versusia
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>>491836139
>>491835968
wow nice you're perfect as you are
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What the fuck do I do as bubs vs mom
I'm only snatching wins by doing absolutely retarded shit
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>>491836886
go back to djeeta
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>haha, now you LITERALLY can't do anything to me without having to get point blank
Why does this fucking shit protect hits when he's IN FRONT OF IT I SWEAR TO GOD MAN
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>>491836250
>Hey man you fucking lied to me, his f.M is 7f after all
Its frame data is variable. At close range it's 7f
The further out you go the worse its frame data gets, capping at 9f
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>>491837304
What the FUCK are you talking about?
I WISH it worked like you just implied it did.
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>>491837570
kek they still do this to rising characters? is it literally just on the characters they want to suck? Versusia 2U is 7F at max range is the first thing I noticed about that character.
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>>491838792
idk all I know is that it makes fighting out of pressure as Luci fucking miserable
Like Kat and 2B can just trap you in this deadzone where you get brutally raped for hitting anything and your only options are
>BC
>Yolo 214X/623X
>Walk forward and hit something and risk just getting punched in the face
>Jump out
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>>491839063
oh you're talking about luci kill yourself
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>>491837570
It's not variable, it's always 7f. It has more range on its later active frames but the active frames are there on the seventh and eighth frames even if they whiff. If the opponent presses a button that extends their hurtbox, which means the 7f frames can hit them anyway, and then if they don't press a button the extra range can hit them on the ninth frame
Here it is with the frame meter mod. Even though he's out of range, the hitbox still comes out on frame 7
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>>491835003
C
Zeta
Revue Starlight
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>>491839181
stop trying to talk to the luci schizo
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>>491839148
>too retarded to read a reply chain
>telling anyone else to kill themselves
Not how it works retard.
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which character(s) do you think most belongs in this image
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>>491836886
>only snatching wins by doing retarded shit

You just said the answer.

Versusia has weak defensive tools so it's best to punish her full screen projectiles with teleport and use j.214H to fuck around with her, especially because she's tall enough to fuzzy with j.L
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>>491839383
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>>491839181
>It's not variable, it's always 7f.
...which is why it gets crushed by 9F heavies and clashes with 8F Ms instead of beating them outright oh wait
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>>491839219
wow nice!!
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>>491835003
S+
Charlotte
Gurren Lagann
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When's the next tournament so Lucifraud can once again have 0 meaningful representation at the top of the bracket?
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>>491840250
you gotta wait like 4-6+ months like zetafags did before they started asking where the results are
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>>491839837
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. If it doesn't hit on 7f, that hitbox is still there. If it whiffed against the opponent's button, then it whiffed, but depending on the opponent's button pressed it really can matter and can get you a hit against something that otherwise would be crushed.

I recorded a demonstration of this for you. As you can see, at this specific spacing f.M doesn't reach until frame 9. However, when Cagliostro presses f.H here, its hurtbox extends on its seventh starter frame, two frames before it becomes active. Lucillius then hits Cag on frame 8 (because f.L was +1 and thus started his attack one frame earlier, but on a +0 it would have hit on frame 7). Does that explain it well enough?
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My take on Luci is that he's strong but just not the type of character that is probably suitable for winning tournaments.
Asking someone to consistently gap a ton of people in neutral in sequence to achieve your win condition isn't easy especially since it requires adjustment to every individual opponent. Of course, this is something everyone has to do but other characters usually have some autopilot offense or approach they can fall back on. Luci can't really do that because of his cooldowns but his defensive shortcomings don't let him just sit there either - you have to be proactive or else you will just corner yourself and eat ass.
Like compare Zane's Grimnir matches with Tav's Luci matches - no matter what Grimnir always gets to play the game even if he loses. But sometimes Luci just doesn't get to play and dies before he ever gets started.

tl;dr - Strong character but you'd have to be a robot to actually get optimal results consistently with him
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>>491841098
>cags f.H's hurtbox starts to retract at frame 24
no wonder it's fucking impossible to whiff punish
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>>491835003
S+3
anila
who the fuck watches chinese cartoons
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GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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New to Bubs
How do I win with Bubs
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swish
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>>491841684
You're not supposed to
Embrace your role as the thread's jobber
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no longer am i alone...
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>>491841684
You RPS them until they die by alternating doing spin, projectile (charge), dive and grab
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What's the average rank of players here
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>>491843054
Masters.
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>>491843271
I shall take my leave then
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>>491843054
Theres loads of S-S+'s here. Then you have like 10ish masters combined in NA and EU? Some Grandmasters
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>>491843054
I'm S5
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>>491839474
wait, can I fuzzy her just by doing j.L? nothing else needed?
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>>491843054
C1
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>>491841516
Look Ma, I've finally made it, I'm part of a Sieg ssba!
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Don't state your low ranks, you'll summon Sharklotta
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>>491843054
it's probably the most diverse community we have every rank really
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>>491841516
>Jukebox Nier
Necromancer anon...
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>>491843054
According to the last two tournaments this thread is overwhelmingly grandmaster.
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>'MURICAAA'S GAME BABYYYY'
not for long
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>>491843054
grandmaster 5
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>>491843838
I'm pretty sure her skirt should also be moving
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>>491844430
it would if I didn't coat it in semen and caused it to harden
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>>491844463
I see
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>>491844430
If Rising had been made in a better time then yes, that move would be one of her pantsu-shots. Unfortunately, the game was made this decade
I fucking HATE CERO
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>>491843054
In reality or through deluluanon eyes?
>Reality
S+ mostly on average
>Delulu burgeranon eyes
Pfft Tako will come in 5th at best in a gbvsrg tournament
gamera can be beaten by any random anon here
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If tako and gamera were so good, why do they keep dodging the golshi tournaments
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Tako?
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>>491844986
gamera is literally tweeting about blocking us
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>>491843054
average /gbvsg/ powerlevel is around S+1
maybe little higher
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Gamera is literally the savior of grub, with the power of boring his opponent to death and gooning to his waifu every day he will rise to the top again
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I guess all our Zeta-players really died.
>>491743379
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>>491845040
he's scared of our army of grandmasters
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i want to join the open lobby but most of the time it’s just ferry anon or another master and i don’t feel like getting abused
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>>491845593
what rank are you anon, there is a bunch of people around s-s++. there is even some beneath s who show up occasionally.
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I want to join the open lobby but I live in Mexico and I don't know if I can get a stable connection against people who live like, on the northern/eastern part of the US
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What would Vira's panties smell like at the end of the day
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>>491845593
Are you playing during NA times?
I'm just S+, we can play at some point. Have been playing with other S+'s as well.
Not Mondays, unfortunately
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>>491845743
I've never had any problem, granted I've only joined the lobby twice
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>>491845743
There is quite a few people who I suspect are west coast or atleast centralish. Even then some mexicans/sa have good connections to the east coast.
I don't think anybody is going to be upset if you come and ask to do a connection test.
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>>491845361
They got flushed down the toilet alongside Yoolfags
I really feel for both of these characters because not only their players contributed a lot to our general, they really didn't deserve to get nerfed
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>>491845593
I'm B but you can't play with me unless you're west coast
or jap
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>>491845743
I will play with literally anyone, even SA I dont mind the 250 ping. I just genuinely have fun playing the game.
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genshit has an expansion in 2 days so expect this kusoge to drop to discord fighter sub 150 daily count soon
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>>491845896
That makes sense. I'm pretty sure most of the people I play in Ranked are in the US, I don't think this game is especially popular here.

>>491845927
Next time there's a lobby going I'll show up and ask.

>>491846246
>I just genuinely have fun playing the game.
Holy based.
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>>491846349
yeah I'm one of them
sorry bwo
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>>491846392
Some people lurk occasionally in the lobby but if not just post in the thread about the lobby or make a room and the usual people will join. Again nobody is gonna give a shit if it ends up not working out.
>>491846246
Same.
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>>491846246
cringe.
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>>491846047
Contrary to Yuel, Zeta actually got some compensations, some of her other tools are better now.
But her wins aren't as cheap and there is a lot of rewiring and learning new tools. At least all my combos still work.

If they wanted to make her less volatile on lower ranks, then they succeeded. Pros are happy with her new tools. But for some middle-rate shitter like me, it's difficult to learn that awkward jUUU setup.

Feel bad for the Yuel-fags, though.
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People shouldn't worry about rank when trying to play in the open lobby with anons
If someone doesn't want to play because of the skill inbalance that's fine, but being presumptive in thinking that they don't want to play is pretty stupid
same thing with the netcode, plus you can see ping now before you even accept a match, so you aren't even wasting their time
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>>491845743
lol whad a fag :DDD
I used to play with a EU nigga with like 600ms
Joking aside, just ask around. As long as you have a stable connection, should be fine. There will be people who will be okay with it, there will be people who won't
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Here's your Season 2 guest character, bro
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the average opinion of yuel changes here is really dumb but I guess most yuels here are S ranks so I shouldn't expect anything logical
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>>491847201
She looks Chinese and that makes me uncomfortable
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would anyone like to play in platform or player lobby? na
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>One day Vira falls and hits her head
>You help her up
>Due to mental damage her brain replaces the memories of Katalina with (You)
>You now have a Vira gf
What would your life be like from now on. Describe a day in the life of being Vira's bf. How does she behave? What happens during an argument? What is sex like? Does she cook and clean?
Also if you were him do you stay in the relationship or run for the hills first chance you get
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>>491846349
Will there be Yelan sexo?
Otherwise I don't give a fuck
>>491846436
Wait, you'll be sticking or you'll be leaving for the gayshit expansion?
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>>491847321
If this happened I would make sure to reenact that one Anon's dream...
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>>491847289
It's pretty fucking late anon, not to discourage you but maybe you should try asking a little earlier
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>>491847424
drink her pee?
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>>491847250
b-but some anon here said rookies was S5 at best if he were to play against gbvsrg...
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>>491847289
I've been awake for 72 hours now so I think I would just slop in new never before seen embarrassing way.
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>>491847506
sovl
>>491847454
what will you tell me next, that the sky is blue?
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>>491847493
Nyes
Imagine this face looking down on you...
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>>491847321
Is Vira always crazy?, I wouldn't mind if she were only crazy when horny but crazy 24/7 would be a turn off
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I miss vira pee drinker
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>>491847559
Are you the nier/fox anon who plays really late?
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>>491847559
Such a blue sky!
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>>491847617
No, she's normal outside of obsessing over Kat.
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>>491847780
but anon storyline has (You) replacing kat and as an official boyfriend girlfriend couple Vira will be spending plenty of time in close proximity to (You). Will she really have many chances to be 'normal'?
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>>491847875
Yes, she'd still be normal. The Vira in Versus/Rising is based off her initial personality. She's calmed down a fuck ton.
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I am not cut for fighting games.
Just now I was playing a bit of ranked against a Yuelfag.
He 2-0'd me at first, but then I went 2-1 for like 5 sets until I 2-0'd him twice and left
I ended the last game with a perfect, but even before that I was completely dominating him, which made me feel bad for him.
When I see someone playing a low tier character or playing mindlessly in a dumb way (usually spamming the same gimmicks and crumbling when you figure the gimmicks out) I can't help but to think they are just playing for fun to unwind after a stressful day, and I can't help but to think that when you don't get to play the game it's just not fun at all.
I don't mind myself getting stomped but I really hate to stomp others (unless they're playing fucking Belial or some shit).
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>>491847289
i wouldn't mind, are you in there already?
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>>491847963
Okay then assume the storyline involves Vira 1.0
What now
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>>491847559
>that the sky is blue?
What makes the sky blue?
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>>491848046
I also have this problem and I have no fucking idea how to fix it. I realize the answer is to just realize that their fun isn't my problem but I like to convince myself being the nice guy means one less retard will quit because they avoided an awful experience. Sure you'd think people with 1000s of games would be over such a mentality but I know full well from other games some people kind of just don't get over it. I should just not give a shit about them, if its not me it will be someone else who tilts them.
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>>491848181
shut up lyria and keep sucking
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>>491848141
She'd still be relatively normal, assuming you're spending a reasonable amount of time with her. Go watch season 2 of the Granblue anime, I think the first 3 or 4 episodes are about Vira.
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>>491847385
>you'll be sticking or you'll be leaving
depends
if 5.0 is really packed I might go MIA for a while
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>>491847963
>calmed down a fuck ton since then
wasn't this also when the frauds at Cygames writing team made her into a generic (You) cock craving gacha heroine like every other slut in the market
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>>491848404
If I was a gachafag I wouldn't pay to roll some dyke talking about getting some action with someone else
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>>491848204
It seems we have absolutely the exact same problem because even the shit you wrote is what I think to myself.
>It's not my problem
>If not me, it'll be someone else
>He doesn't think the same for me
I also try to tell myself that this is an EGO problem but I don't know if that's it.
Once Granblue is over I'm leaving competitive gaming and sticking to single player. Or I'll just be a giga casual.
Funnily enough my experience in this game is VERY different from when I played League at a high level
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>>491848546
dykes deserve less
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>>491848098
Was I scammed by 2 people?
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>>491848546
Cupitanbros...
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>>491848292
>Hook up with a girl on the premise that she's a crazy horny slut
>She turns out to be merely larping as an insane person underneath it all
Virafags are FRAUDS confirmed
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>>491848750
She's not larping, she's obsessed, not crazy, unless something happens to Kat, or in this case (You).
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>>491848639
Playing league and dota 2 taught me that everybody else in the game until proven otherwise was a subhuman animal and that I shouldn't care about them at all. Somehow I don't have this cold mentality in any other game. I even feel bad if people get shit on in counterstrike or something.

I think trying to play fighting games with friends in the past did a number on me.
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the biggest meme in FGs is that there's such a thing as the fighting game "community" when the top players only treat the rest of the playerbase as tournament pot fodder or content creation filler to stomp on
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>>491848697
Sometimes they leave if nobody shows up within the first 5 minutes but come back the moment someone lobby status's them.
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>>491848837
Sounds like something a fraud would say. I want my refund. Fucking Vira turned out to be a basic bitch normie gf under it all
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This thread ruined me... Now every time I read "scammed" I think about Narmaya
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>>491849142
Narmaya stole my CSGO skins
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>>491849064
In the end, yeah. That's probably why she fell off in popularity over the years, especially since Nier stole her yandere schtick and she's obsessed with (You) and not a dyke.
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>>491848990
>unless every member of the community is close with EVERY other member of the community, there is no community
...OK?
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>>491848880
>Playing league and dota 2 taught me that everybody else in the game until proven otherwise was a subhuman animal and that I shouldn't care about them at all
Yeah, same here.
Playing League felt like both I hated everyone in the match and everyone hated me. Doesn't help that I went from late childhoot into early adulthood playing League with this absolutely toxic mentality engraved into my brain.
Now that I'm growing older I'm realizing more and more that thing about the person on the other side of the screen being a human being too.
Just yesterday I was playing against someone who was pretty bad with a lot of games, so I came into this thread to shit on them... then I realized that I was being an asshole and that was wrong.
Feels weird to write this down but it is what it is.
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>>491849250
Yes, the community is defined by the top end not the bottom end
Nobody cares about the bottom or middle end of the FGC
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>>491849197
Niia was always superior than that blonde whore. Desu, kill this poster.
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For better or worse, /gbvsg/ has been my primary GBVSR community since launch.
The GBVSR reddit is dead and pozzed.
Imagine using the official gbvsr discord server, lmao.
I got into a smaller local GBVSR discord but it went like that rat pepe meme ''i meet someone new -> i am cheesed to meet them -> i deny the holocaust -> they leave''
This place is pretty gud most of the time
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>>491847201
Screw that
Give me Yelan
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>>491849390
Vira was already on the decline when Nier came out.
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Blonde women will always cheat on you. Vira is a disgusting cheater. Niia is for (You)
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>>491848046
>>491848204
>>491848639
>>491849289
This is exactly the reason I have a bunch of characters stuck in low ranks.
I'm not actually good at the game, my highest character is in S+, but that means that a couple of characters I want to learn are in A rank and I feel like shit when I beat A ranks. Most of them are actually just barely getting the hang of the game, I can see it...
I end up sandbagging a lot. Not to the point where it looks obvious but I do give them a set out of the 3, which means I only gain 1/5th of a rank in the span of 5-10 minutes.
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guys i am not good at making my move
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>>491847321
>Describe a day in the life of being Vira's bf
Dick her down from dusk to dawn
>How does she behave?
Obedient and submissive like a dog. Heaven if you're into that, Hell if you're some of those weird fags who like being dominated by women.
>What happens during an argument?
No arguments happen because she obeys whatever I say
>What is sex like?
I piss inside her asshole
>Does she cook and clean?
Yeah. Naked for easy access.
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>>491849903
But even sandbagging feels bad because it feels like an ego thing, you know?
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>>491850142
Yeah I know...
I don't run straight into attacks or anything too obvious but they probably do notice sometimes, yeah.
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>>491841684
Why would you have a cloak with upwards fanning spikes what if you poke your eye accidentally
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>>491850369
that nigga got nuked by god's second in command and survived
poking out his eye is the least of his concerns
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>>491850442
are these videos good?
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>>491850606
He doesn't show deep combo changes for most characters but he shows what things looked like before and after patch so you see exactly how it changed.
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>>491850606
yeah. occasionally he doesn't understand a change but for the most part they're good
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In Rising, Io and Ruria are relegated to the story mode, which is certainly not the main focus of the game.
In Relink though, Io and Ruria get to be much more prevalent on the screen... which just makes me realize how fucking sexo they both are.
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>>491851115
kek
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>>491850932
Io was a wasted slot in relink
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>>491851275
delious flat chest
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>>491851275
this really puts draph milkers in perspective
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I'd like to find where these new Katalina and Narmaya combos are, I don't want to go on Twitter to find them all.
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>>491851115
"Stud" is a strange way to refer to a girl.
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https://x.com/KyokujiFGC/status/1824478978112917656
What are your thoughts on this, grubbas?
Do you think the way of old is superior?
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>>491851473
KEKYDESU
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ggs lobby, thanks for keeping me company, was fun
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>>491851745
GGS abel anon. thanks for gaming. i aspire to one day make the right move.
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>>491851487
Dunno about old way, new way or whatever you're trying to sell, but he is absolutely correct here.
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>>491851884
So many FG guys pretend like frame data isn't important or that "you just gotta know when it's ur turn or not" but the reason lots of new players go ham on frame data is because you will get the wrong results if you just try and abstract it. FG tards need to stop doing this "it's easy just play w/e you want and press buttons LOOK AT THIS NIGGA HE MASHING HE MASHING" shit. Admit these games are hard to get into and there's a lot of knowledge checks and then everyone gets to leave happy.
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>>491851745
forgot to say it was nice seeing you again and thanks for the advice you gave me a long time ago against perci/lance.
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There is no objective reasoning for why framedata should not be displayed in game it is an archaic holdover from the arcade era when obscurity was a gameplay factor
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>>491852148
but we do have in game frame data
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>>491852104
And yet sitting down for hours studying numbers for moves that you barely know what they look like will do you no good.
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>>491852354
>that you barely know what they look like will do you no good.
It'll do an insane amount of good, more than just playing the game. There's plenty of matchups you will only encounter like once a day if you play actively. Also, the more you're familiar with your own data, the more comfortable you are in reacting to other guys.

Idk why pretending that you need to abstract it to "+ or -" is easier than just knowing the numbers kek.
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>>491852104
no one sits down and studied frame data for hours lol, you just look up the frame data of a move you just got fucked up by and you'll probably remember it
you don't just study dustloop pages until you have the frame data memorized lmfao
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>>491852852
meant for >>491852354
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This isn't Tekken, so you don't need to do your homework quite as hard. Just learn what everyone's 66L looks like, and get an idea for which moves are plus, which moves are super plus, which moves are minus, and which moves are super minus.
That part is pretty intuitive, and it's basically the only part you'll need. Any edge cases will only be edge cases once because you'll remember that time some faggot belial beat you with some bullshit when he shouldn't have fucking been plus you fucking nigger etc. etc. and then it won't be a surprise anymore, it'll just be annoying.
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>>491852628
>Idk why pretending that you need to abstract it to "+ or -" is easier than just knowing the numbers kek.
Because I get to move first after these moves; my opponent gets to move first after these other moves is less stuff to remember than the exact frame advantage for every move, notice that this is advice for absolute beginers who may get overwhelmed by the idea of having to learn the exact numbers for hundreds of moves, also frame data is only half of the story, a move that may look punishable on paper may not be in practice due to pushback for instance and that's something you'll only figure out by playing unless you want to spend most of your play time labbing every move ever which is absolutely unappealing for most people.
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>>491824956
yeah now everybody is a siegfried or seox. except for literal bottom 3 anyway.
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>>491852852
The issue is that new players will read the conversations more advanced players have, assume that it is necessary to do that and find the genre off-putting because of it.
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>>491851389
Katalina is basically the same but with 1-2 extra Lightwalls per combo
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>>491852997
As someone who tried to get a relatively new fg player into Rising, there are a lot of arbitrary and unintuitive knowledge checks when it comes to basic punishes and stuff. Every fighting game has a little bit of that to be fair, but Rising has a pretty high ratio of annoying
>how was I supposed to know?!
things that it pushes new players away, alongside 20s+ long combos and 66L/BC spam
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>>491853291
this? why do some supers (fuck you cagtroon ssba) need a fucking spotdodge to punish? just arbitrary privilege nonsense
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>>491851275
io was pretty fun in relink aside from the weird literal tranny cult in the western fanbase making io out to be some 200iq character
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>>491852104
As someone who studies frame data and setups, no you don't need to know all this, you just need to be willing to lose to try stuff in game.
See something on block? Mash your fastest button, worked? Try a slightly stronger button next time, see if it punished or countered.

Going into games with frame data in mind will do you little good because you don't even know how to play the game yet. You will get scammed up and down because while you are thinking about individual situations, the guy who just played the game knows that its hard to dodge his full screen U move jump scare and it often gets him a lot of damage so he'll just do it.

Frame data becomes important once you get to S+ here. Below that most your opponents dont care if you are plus or if they are minus, they will press or DP.

That being said, these games are hard to get into, because everyone has an ego and want to come in competitive.
Its like a boxer or MMA guy joins a gym and when he gets to spar after a couple months of training he's all upset because the guys who have been there run him over.
You don't get good at fighting by doing the speedbag, heavy bag, jump rope, studying punches etc. You get good at fighting by fighting, and you gotta lose a lot before you'll learn
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>>491853470
singling out one character when 90% of the roster has this is so funny. mindbroken by a faggot.
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>>491853730
fuck you nezu, ywnbaw
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>>491853823
one day you'll get an insult that will work on me, I'm really rooting for you
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>>491853730
List them, go on
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Cag needs nerfs.
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reminder nezutroon lost his mind cause helios beat him
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>just mash lol
I really don't think this is good advice
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Whenever I think about competitive GBVS I think about how only 1 out of 100 "competitive" players has any relevance or results in other games, and that everyone else is fighting to be the big fish in a small pond
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>spends literally every single hour of every single day rotating between trooncord, twitter and 4chinz to seethe
Has there ever been a more pathetic existence than nezu
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>>491854003
lying doesn't look good on you
>>491854274
i'm not seething.
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>>491853730
>>491853923
Still waiting
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>Nezu shat out something as soon as his 4kek pass timer came up
>Doesn't even deny he spends every hour of every day being terminally online
sad and cringe
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>>491854504
what do you want me to do, describe my job? The last time I did that someone posted it 2 years later to here and now you people think I work at mcdonalds.
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wheres vas on the nezu tier list
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>>491854596
unwinnable match up for cag
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did you switch to subway?
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>>491820914
Haven't played against her much, but she has clear periods where she basically can't play the game
I think we'll see Niers instantly blow 100 meter on install
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>>491854596
the patch just came out so I only have a rough idea of what I think tiers look like but Vas is really good rn, he got buffed massively and its not like he was bad before at all. My rough draft of a tier list has him at #12 I guess. IDK if I wanna post my whole tier list when it's so early. I'm an analyst not an omnipotent.
>>491854709
i wouldn't be on my computer all day if I worked at a subway, use your head anon.
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>>491854846
walmart deli clerk nezu..
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>>491854993
you're not very bright
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>>491854846
ok but why is saya not a loli
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>>491855026
>can't understand a tranny joke
sorry, I guess it takes winning tournaments to have a sense of humor
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>>491855110
at a glance she just looks like a petite JK to me. I've never played saya no uta though and I never will, there is gore all over google results when you look it up and I can be rather squeamish.
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>>491854274
He is the most pathetic user in this general and likely among the most pathetic in the whole board. Dude is CWC tier.
But I don't really feel bad for him, he's an asshole. A legitimately horrible person, so I'm not wasting pity on him. I hope he manages to turn his life around, find Christ or some shit.
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>>491854928
he said it was gawdlike but honestly i think he will flip opinions when he realizes the changes weren't as significant as he suggested they were
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>>491855406
>Dude is CWC tier.
True
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>>491854928
>>491855414
it is pointless to ask ecelebs about their opinions because being a doomer eceleb on a new patch is not a good look for them even though its better cpm and ultimately the truth
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>>491854928
>what does his largeness think
well this is what he thinks
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>>491854504
>roon
>pedo
>hated by everyone everywhere he goes
>fucking 4chan pass user
holy kek man this shit is concerning
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theaterCHAD...
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>>491855406
>Most pathetic user in this general
Kinda insane when you think about it considering we have award winning losers like the charlottaanon that goes out of his way to hunt newcuties and obsesses over his pink square. To the point he dodges every other pink square player in lobby to make sure he keeps his own pink.
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>>491855653
love cobra soon, B-gumis.
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>>491855406
>he's an asshole. A legitimately horrible person
I'm one of the nicest people you can get to know if you don't freak at the first sign of autism and just say something like "Don't say that if something is off"
>Dude is CWC tier
that's crazy because last time I checked I wasn't a fat and ugly 40 year old lolcow raping the dementia ridden elderly because of listening to everything someone said on the internet. I guess I could've ended up like that but first of all I trooned out ages before him, I was never allowed by my parents to stagnate or get comfortable with a life on disability, and I still do have more self awareness than even if its lower than average. Hate me all you want but you're just looking schizophrenic right now.
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>>491855573
legit I think nezu has a mental illness, he's such an attention whore that he's happy when people hate him because it keeps the discussion around him.
For faggots like him the most terrifying death is to die unremembered, unloved and alone.
Literally just ignore nezu, don't take any of his baits and he will seethe until he starts foaming at the mouth.
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>>491855869
I'm not happy when people hate me, I stick around here because it actually is the place in GBVSR where I'm hated on the least and in the least hurtful ways. You could say why do you even play this game you don't like and that'd be a good evidence of me being mentally ill but making up some theory that I love negative attention is weird.
>>491855573
I don't have 4chan pass
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post the Chris g nezu clip
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>>491855414
Examples? Perci changes? He should be good enough now, shouldn't he?
To be honest I find this patch very hard to doom about.
People agree that not nerfing Belial and nerfing Ferry was stupid but
>Belial
Not to downplay or anything because this faggot ass character should be taken back in the shed and shot with a shotgun, but Belial being top 1 is infinitely more healthy than last patch Nier being #1.
>Ferry
It was stupid to nerf her at all but at the very least she got some things to counter balance it. Helios said she's fine, I'll take his word for it.
Oh, there's Yuel too. But I guess all Yuel fans just committed suicide so there's no one left to complain
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>>491856225
it's not about the individual character balance but about the system
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game is pretty tightly balanced rn except for bottom 3 but we have more faggot ass fraudulent bullshit characters than we did last patch and the overall design philosophy of the game is still frustrating and anti-skill.
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>>491855869
>For faggots like him the most terrifying death is to die unremembered, unloved and alone.
Which ironically enough is what is going to happen to him because that's what you get when you lead a life of being an asshole for attention.
>Literally just ignore
Preaching to the choir nigga, I'm always telling people to just ignore the freak. But they just can't resist. It is what it is.
And of course he has a mental illness, nigga thinks he's a woman.
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i like this general because we get genuinely friendly guys like helios and then we get twisted fucking schizos like nezu, and everything in between. keeps things fresh
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>>491856601
Let you in on a secret. Being skilled in a FG isnt about how good your offense, setups, or neutral is. Its about how good your defense is.
Delay tech/buttons, jump outs, knowing where to escape pressure etc.
Fraudulent shit is where real skill shows.
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i'm nice
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>>491856601
You can't say this when buffed Seox yesterday in the team battle danced over everyone else in the last mile the game is profoundly flawed at many levels
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>>491857026
Helios is great, been friends with him for years. Genuinely one of the nicest people you'll meet.
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>>491856225
https://twitter.com/Kizzie_Kay/status/1825023910355915008

I want to assume he's exaggerating here but on some level maybe he really believes this is the case. The patch clearly made some good changes but viewing this thread and other places a lot of people don't think it was enough and ultimately was bandaid fixes for some issues.

I'm not dooming about it at all. I like most of the changes I just hope they make further adjustments sooner than 9 months this time. From a personal point of view I still think damage is really high and 66L needs to be changed further. I don't have super strong opinions on brave counter but I get why some people hate it or components of it at least.
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Why do you only need like 140 crystals to be GM with Nier?
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>>491857026
I laugh every time he reminds us how much of a nice person he is.
Because that's what nice people do, remind everyone constantly that they're nice.
Reminds me of picrel.
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>>491857206
is he an S or M?
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nice people don't like being gaslit hope this helps
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>>491857175
“Seox got nerfed” is the biggest lie of the patch. Nigga is still top 5 easy
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>>491857389
me on the right
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>>491857362
unironically nier players should have been reset to s rank.
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>>491857389
me on the left
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Who are the most likable gbvsg regulars? Who are the most unlikeable?
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>>491857429
I dont know what that means.
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>>491857901
S = spanks people
M = gets spanked
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>>491857901
does he fweh... in bed or does he LEBINLEIBU!! in bed
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>>491857259
I agree with 66L but I don't know about damage man. I feel like it's pretty much perfect now, maybe even more on the side of slightly too low damage than slightly too high.
You nerf damage even more and now matches are at glacial pacing
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>>491857963
I dont know.
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You backdashed?
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>>491857736
>likeable
Everyone not mentioned below
>unlikeable
The tranny and it's friends
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>>491857206
I still miss playing with you guys in the wee hours of the morning. Even if I grew to hate him, I could feel myself improving when I played Eustace against you two.
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>they start running away to full screen throwing out fireballs

I can smell their fear
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>>491858186
We usually have another friend who joins us and he doesn't do the jp 1 no crossplay thing so we go to na 1 or 2. Nothing personal. We probably will occasionally hop over there if the other guy takes another break.
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>>491858057
you don't know what pacing is
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>>491857206
He plays and posts Ferry. He aight in my book.
Jokes aside, I haven't interacted much with him, but when I did it was pleasant.
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SSBA should only take away one BP
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>>491858551
Take away one but recover two.
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>>491858656
actually not a bad idea
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>>491858387
Its funny, we played a lot if FGs together and we almost always join threads. Every time his reception is always very positive. Something about the guy
I'm generally not as well received but I like to argue so its not surprising
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>>491858656
I actually like this idea. It strengthens the notion of SSBA being a pseudo-comeback mechanic.
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>>491858057
I don't really have a ton of fighting game experience but I always feel this game has some horrible combination of the corner carry being too strong (or stage being too small) and a single fuckup anywhere near the corner tends to lead to the next interaction deciding the game.
I don't know the best route to fix this other than toning down ssba in a combo atleast or adjusting normals themselves to scale faster. Personally I find mid screen interactions the most enjoyable part of the game.
t. shitter whom everybody is glad isn't on the balance team
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>>491858334
He's a pain to deal with if you don't have a dp.
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>>491859071
they should really just increase the size of stages. it was decreased in rising actually by a character length but they should probably make it longer than it was in vanilla not shorter. even though I miss the glory days of 5m special being all you got, people do have fun with the crazy combos in this game, so best course of action is likely just making the stage bigger. As for damage, I also think it would be in a good spot if they just nerf super damage now.
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A N O T H E R D A Y
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>>491859285
I meant to suggest that as well but forgot. My doom is that they will just say its too much of a hassle for the art team.
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>>491859071
The stages are 100% too small and that does contribute to high damage, it's the same problem Strive (dunno about DNF) has and it's probably because making bigger stages in this artstyle does use up valuable resources.
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HAHAHAHAHA, I mean-
I just, I just-
I'm just gonna HAHAHAHA! I'm not gonna HAHAHA!!! That's all!
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>>491859285
They can't really reduce super damage because people would just stop using it and spend meters on ult skills.
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>>491860457
they already reduced ult skill damage though so I don't buy this
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>>491859473
is this our lobby
are we really popping off at 7 in the morning
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Syurrendyer to the cyalm
Invyite the syound of absyence
A time to bryeathe renyew me in my heart's oasyis

My syoul yearns
For ryestfyul shyelter in
Thyis pyeace and quyiet

>OH
>OH
>OH
>OH
>OH
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>>491860576
They added scaling to combos that start with ult skills.
Raw single ult skills, and ult skills used in the middle of a combo (barring new scaling changes), still do the same amount of damage, unless they got a specific targeted nerf (like Zeta’s ult skills).
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>>491860576
Only if you start the combo with them (I think) my corner to corner combo which uses two of them (one cancelled into, the other not) does the exact same damage it did pre-patch.
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>>491860672
>is this our lobby
literally nobody is online right now
this is MY hours
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All of Versusia's plus-on-block specials pushing her out of 5L range while leaving the opponent in f.L range really needs to change.
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>>491860728
I can hear this post
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>>491860881
>Not pink square player
we know the real reason why you bother fighting him.
You must be a really insecure person to place so much value on your pink square.
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Average nip ranked experience
This is why they didn't touch BC, btw
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Versusias theme is pretty good huh
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>>491861428
It really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEO4QQeszq0
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>>491861267
I dont get it.
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>Refuse to play ranked because you don't get to pick your opponents there + wants to keep his rank low to continue smurfing
>Stays at B1 to get an extra ego boost from beating 'higher' ranked opponents hur hur you lost to a B rank lmao
>Sharks newcuties
>Dodges every pink square player to keep their own pink square
>Constantly posts screencaps on gbvsrg showing off their pink square
>Masturbate to his pink square at night
So this is what the bullied nerd from my high school class turned out into after graduation.
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>"actually we WANT a glacially slow game with low damage and impenetrable defense"
No you don't.
All traditional fighters are lightning fast compared to what an ACTUALLY slow game looks like, and that's a good thing. Both players and spectators like it that way. When people are forced to play a game that's actually slow, they hate it.
When defense is too strong and damage per hit isn't high enough you get this:
https://youtu.be/_tJgqJSdesA?si=RS13psBjJQpnT483&t=1365
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>>491861532
Metera held all of belial's pressure without using BC once, Belial only used bp on RSRC
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>>491861716
This just means Belial needs a standing overhead. Nothing that can't be fixed.
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>>491861478
Damn this shit slaps hard. I feel like the game's whole soundtrack is great, but no one really talks about it.
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>>491861803
>the game's whole soundtrack is great
it sounds like some shitty nu-metal from 2011
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>>491861251
orange squares can take pinks though...
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>>491861803
It has great tracks, you also get faggots like >>491861932
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You're all grey squares to me
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>>491862029
if that was true, then why would our resident pathetic loserfag do this? >>491855727
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>>491857389
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>>491861932
You've either never heard nu-metal or you are completely retarded.
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>>491861803
The OST is mediocre at best and matches Granblue Fantasy's general aesthetic not aging well past 2015
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>>491861663
Almost as if there's a reason actual fighting games have the clock limited to 1 minute and 39 seconds in most games instead of having 7 fucking minutes to durdle around. In any case, your argument is extremely disingenuous, since you are essentially asserting that you know what I want better than me, making any sort of counter-argument pointless since you can always just go "you think you want that, but you don't actually lmao". To this day, I have yet to play the mythical 2D fighter where defense is too strong. All I know is that I like Versus the best out of all fighters I've played because it is slower and less slanted in favor of offense than other games, stands to reason I would like games that are even more slower than it if they existed. I also played Fighterz when it launched, and started liking it a lot more once they started patching out extremely oppressive mix, and started liking it a lot less once they started patching oppressive mix back in.
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>>491862105
Why would he do what, he fought the orange perci and perci fell to yellow and he went up to pink?
This has nothing to do with what I said.
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>>491861803
Fucking love the soundtrack of this game. It was one of the reasons for me to ever check out Versus, listening to the characters themes before buying, not really knowing about Granblues stellar music before.
Then playing the rpg-mode and my ears were blown apart by the boss themes
>CRUSH
>PULVERIZE
>DOMINATION

I think a lot of people here already know that Granblue has great music, and lots of tracks are lifted from that, so there is not much to talk about.
Though I found a lot of the new tracks for Rising lacking, until Vane and Bea came out.
>>491862149
>>491861803
Soulless.
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What is the secret Versusia tech
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>>491862260
>Though I found a lot of the new tracks for Rising lacking, until Vane and Bea came out.
They honestly did Luci dirty, I like the V2 raid fight version of his song way more, a shame that Zero doesn't really work in a fighting game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCHJ5If5DWw
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>>491862212
fake news
>>491862029
retardbro
square color only changes when you fight the same color
that's his secret why he's always pink. And the moment he drops to orange he immediately looks for some orange newcutie in lobby to shark back up to pink.
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>>491862475
>square color only changes when you fight the same color
you are just admitting you've never played in a lobby in an extended set or are clinically retarded.
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>>491862470
This song changes depending on what phase the Faa is in. It can never work in a fighting game and is why the track sounds so underwhelming.
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>>491862534
>He keeps sprouting fake shit about squares and how they work
do your research faggot
and then while you at it fucking rope yourself
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>>491862475
Square can change if you fight someone with one grade above or below your own. That is to say, if you're orange and fight pinks and win, you'll be promoted to pink, but if you fight yellows and lose, you can be demoted to yellow.
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>>491862567
That's Zero, while Dark Rapture has the same thing the rendition they uploaded has a good natural flow
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>>491862475
>And the moment he drops to orange he immediately looks for some orange newcutie in lobby to shark back up to pink.
By your own logic how exactly does he drop to orange if he never faces pink squares RETARDGAWD?
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>>491862105
>>491862475
>>491862647
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>>491862663
It can happen even two away but the speed seems to be extremely slow.
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>>491862663
The effect is much quicker if you're fighting the same rank
For example Pink to Pink you lose like 5 and you're down to orange
Same for Orange to Orange, if you shark a newcutie like 5 times you get boosted to pink
>>491862706
He fought pink squares early on, got assraped dropped to orange that's why you had this >>491860881. He then learnt his lesson and dodged pinks from then on
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>>491862809
True, as you said it's so fucking slow that I completely forgot it can happens with a two grades difference.
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>>491862883
meant to link this >>491855727 instead
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>literally arguing about some random shitposters' square
do something else holy shit, anything else
go wash your face or something
pathetic
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>grandmaster crystal gain/loss follows the same retarded rules as the squares
nyaruhodo
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>granblue fantasy versus........ rising general
>pagpag and pink squares edition
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What's wrong with washing your face?
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>Call out bullshit
>N-N-yo stop being such a faggit you can't do that
modern 4chin is aids holy shit
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>>491863112
what bullshit?
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>>491862567
>It can never work in a fighting game
Eh? There are plenty of fighting games where the music changes depending on what's happening in the game. Dynamic music in fighters has been a thing since the 90s.
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>>491862567
Killer Instinct since 2013???
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>>491863218
anon there's a reason why every pic charlottaanon posts has his grorious pinku squaru front and center. It's obvious he's a autist about it, that and his history of bragging how he shared newcuties to get back up to pink.
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>>491863417
I think its a running gag and you have ze autism.
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>>491862567
it could definitely work, they could just change the music based on his blade level.
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>>491863487
That would be sick
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>>491863458
I promise you that the seanigger genuinely cares very deeply about his pink square, you don’t have much exposure to fighting game players if that isn’t obvious
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>>491863548
Why don't you challenge him to a fight?
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>>491863458
nah i think this is the face of autism >>491855727
also it's funny how every time I shit on charlottaanon the falseflagging comes out of the woodwork like clockwork.
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>>491863548
Just check out his post history lmao, he cared so much about it he bragged about finding a orange newcutie perc to shark himself back up to pink
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I got pink square the first 30 minutes I played this game and never lost it
why obsess over something so meaningless
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I'm a perma A-ranker who totally lacks the gene so I've just accepted that I'm never getting it.
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>>491863720
i might have lost it at some point for like 3 matches total when a dlc character came out or something
i think the only way you can be this obsessed about some retarded charlotta being proud of it or whatever is if you feel threatened by him in some way
whats the point in shitposting and wasting your time on something completely worthless like this otherwise? you only have one life
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>>491863720
idk ask charlottaanon that
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>>491862145
yes i don't listen to trash how could you tell
>>491862260
the OST's are a definition of soulless, it feels so corporate and empty. literal home depot rock
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Wageslaving time.
Kill me.
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>>491864007
>spouts retarded shit
>gets called out
>"heh not like i care lol"
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>>491863919
justice for all the newcuties he frauded with his 'uwu I'm just a poor widdle B rank' smurf act
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Pour one out for the master Belial as he has fallen victim to gbvsg's most cowardly shark.
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>>491863548
don't worry, he's a well known piece of shit by the other SEAnigger lobby regs by now
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>>491864296
>He forgot to add that the only reason this match happened was because belial was an orange square, and thus no real threat to his pink
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>>491864546
I salute our grandmaster sharklotta.
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>>491864367
>there are granblue players in southeast asia
wait how? do these people even have computers in the first place?
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>>491864615
he will never play ranked because he can't select his prey there
He might... *gasp* have to play against other pink squares nyoooo!!!
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>>491864615
how does it feel to suck your own cock falseflag-kun?
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>just bought the game
>go on ranked and get my ass beat by the other C ranks
>figure I’ll try casual match instead
>get matched with a guy with 4,000 matches
>he completely obliterates me and I can’t even move
>he also refuses the rematch
Am I just doing something wrong here? Is everyone else just insanely talented at this game but me? Or are all the other beginners just hiding somewhere and I haven’t found them yet?
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>>491864952
dude, you just bought the game. what do you expect.
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>>491864828
Bretty gud.
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>>491864952
block
i don't mean block your opponents, block the attacks
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>>491864952
Go to the lobby and grind sets. Ask for help if you want.
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>>491865049
I assumed that ranked mode would match me with people of similar skill level
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>>491864952
hewwo newcutie what you wanna do is go to the lobby and look for people of similar rank and square that is either Blue, Green or Yellow in that order. Orange and Pink are usually cracked.
Signs that you might be facing a smurf
>Orange or Pink Square
>Match count hidden
>Lunalu player
>Match count not aligned with ranked (A 8500 match B rank player is not going to play like a B rank lets be real)
Another way is to go onto trooncord, they have MM servers there and since people have names and identities you won't meet any faggots looking to shark you. You can find similar beginners like you.
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>>491864952
Go into the lobby and fight people with d-b letter and squares that are blue/green/yellow.
If this is your first fighting game then you are in for some turbulence.
Casual is a new player trap where everybody is going to rape you.
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I think sheep has to be the most downplayed character in this game and people will throw the >39% winrate as an excuse (data taken before her buffs)
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>>491865059
>Charlottaanon admits to falseflagging replies to defend himself
Dumbfuck SEAnigger
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>>491865204
they could be hardstuck c ranks with hundreds of matches and you are a c rank who just bought the game
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>>491865282
the 39% winrate was a month AFTER they buffed 66h and 214u RUMAO
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>>491865357
It's hard to play while having an erection, you may even grab the wrong stick mid-match if you play with one.
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>>491865357
nyo... my narrative...
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>>491864192
I will do her myself
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>>491864952
No, you are new, what did you expect?
Just to be super gifted without any practice?

Just take your losses and learn for now
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rising is now by no means beginner friendly
A5~S5 used to be the shitter rank full of people who never played fighting games before, now everyone does optimal BnB's, spot dodge raging strikes, anti-air, shimmy, delay 2L etc.
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>>491865213
>Match count hidden
I do this out of shame because despite having a jewillion matches I'm still an S rank shitter
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>>491865706
>spot dodge raging strikes
tell that to tororo LMAO
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>>491865858
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>>491865858
People will just think that you're on a secondary character.
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>>491861478
sorry wrong link
https://youtu.be/smSfChneIos
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>>491865912
giv uuuupppppuuuuuuuu
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>>491865858
Same, but I just never have time for ranked. I'll grind it out eventually but I'm either working or tired from working
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I hate playing against him but some of Seox's intros are sick.
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Siegfried armor makes no sense why is bruv armored everywhere but the center of mass that's aimed for by shooters
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>>491864952
if you want to get some easier punching bag practice, you can say if you want to meet me in the lobby or something. I'm playing Djeeta again for the first time since release and helplessly flopping around like a fish out of water. She's at C rank but like >>491865213 said, I've got a couple thousand matches under my belt at this point so it's not a true C rank, although I am well and truly lost since the only character I have any experience playing for the past few months is Vane.
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I left to play with newcutie friend for only 30mins
wtf happened here
stop being weird
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imo the BEST way to learn a character is mirror matches against someone way above your level
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>>491866924
charlottaanon had a melty because someone called him out
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>>491867029
but I'M HIM
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>>491866998
I tend to learn a bit from high level mirrors, yeah.
I picked up a lot of stuff I would have never thought about before from playing Zoi mirrors.
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>>491867143
>replies in less than 1 minute when mentioned
damn you're reaching nezu levels of terminally online.
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...and playing against someone slightly below your skill level and basically labbing in a real match. then you test them out against opponents your skill level
i think matching with opponents better than you is not usually worth it because either they'll stomp you or go easy on you
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>>491864952
I spent 2 days in training mode before even touching online. Then lobbies for around 100 games, and only then I went into ranked.
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>>491865858
The only thing worse than a shitter is an insecure shitter that tries to hide it.
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Theme song of this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVzYtTeNS8
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>play mirror
>have to actually take a break after because of the sweatiness of the match
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>>491866998
No it isn't lmfao
Just because stuff blows you the fuck out doesn't mean it's going to work against a better player, you are just shit
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>>491843639
well obviously you need to set it up, but Versusia can be fuzzy with j.L cancelled into j.214H for corner combo yes.
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I really don't understand the appeal of the genre if you aren't a top player. I feel like I just exist to be a diamond farm for the top level players like a fucking respawning money mob in an MMO.
Even when I win I don't feel anything because I know that I'm shit at the game. Meanwhile I can queue up on League and even if I lose as long as I did a cool play I can still feel happy about the match. I just don't get it.
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>>491868782
The potential for cool plays is better in older fg's
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>>491869023
Meh I don't really think so. I've played Blazblue and the GG XX series and it's basically the same shit at the end of the day. And stuff older than that like KOF just feels like dogshit to play
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Stop whining.
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>>491868782
New fighting games don’t have cool plays because that’s considered discriminatory.
In a game like +R/Xrd or MvC2 the games are so deep that even mid level players will constantly find new stuff to experiment with.
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>>491869324
I have no interest in playing MvSlop or FRC bullshit: the game
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>>491869438
The genre probably just isn’t for you then. That’s how it goes sometimes.
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would somebody please tell me how I'm supposed to play as vane against versusia?
I can't stay in s rank so that should tell you how good I am lol, but I really feel lost playing against her because I get fucked mid-long range and even at close range it feels like she has better options than I do
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>>491868782
You're coming to realize why modern fighting games suck and why it's artificial and unsustainable outside of the player engagement optimized seasons
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>>491868782
Sounds like a you problem. I do cool shit even as a shitter.
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>>491869257
Shrug. Some of my best memories are from a time in a small community where I had rivals and friends who gave me a reason to improve and show my skills every tourney. I eventually quit once that community got too big and lost the comfy atmosphere it had but it was fun while it lasted.
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>>491869676
Vane...
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>>491869676
Energy destruction ruins her entire gameplan. Spam it
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>>491869974
Doing coolshit doesn't really mean anything though. Like yeah I can perfect some fraud but where does that get me, it just means they were shit at the game.
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>>491869676
That's just the long and short of it. You're playing the gimped and shitty mid-long range character against the new one, who may very well be the best to fit into that specific niche thus far. You're both ideally trying to get into the mid-long range except everything she can do in this range cleanly beats everything you can do in it.
My experience said "Fuck it, Grappler Vane" in that matchup. Try your best to dodge pillarspam. Once she starts she won't stop because if she can keep you out she can play even lamer than you. So run up to her, spook her with repeated throws and safejumps and don't give her a chance to breathe or put her head on straight.
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>>491870185
It means I have fun playing the game instead of whinning like a woman all day.
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>>491868782
The appeal is improvement. Its never about being good, thats an unsustainable mindset. Getting better is where the appeal is
Getting off combos, setups, whiff punishes. Defending properly against those things.
I was a boxer for a couple of years and in general my mindset is always about self improvement. Even in pointless things like video games.
It doesnt appeal to everyone
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>>491870669
>Its never about being good
The only people who say this are people who aren't good because it's their cope. I guarantee you the people who win tournaments don't wake up every day thinking about improvement, they think about actually winning because they know they're capable of it.
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After playing against Mommy a lot I legitimately don’t think she’s good.
Her zoning is not threatening at all. The best thing she has going for her is trying to jumpscare you with a run up 2L but that’s kind of a gimmick.
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>>491870060
I already said I'm bad.....
>>491870159
I thought so too but pretty much all of her zoning tools are faster than energy destruction by a fair amount, pillar just straight up rapes me desu, and it doesn't really feel like it's all that hard for her to keep me at a distance. Maybe I'm just not dodging pillar enough though.
>>491870269
yeah I guess you're probably right, thanks
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tomorrow will be better
maybe
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>>491870785
I think she's supposed to alternate between zoning and going on the offensive rather than just one or the other.
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>>491870763
Thats not true at all they are just seasoned vets who have become one with the grind. They work to improve every day.

I remember when sf6 came out Punk got washed by a rando honda. He johned a bit about it then he went into the lab and learned to perfect parry buttslam and headbutt.
Then he got that Honda back. Its about the journey.
Yeah they have more assurance in their ability but its not removed from knowing they need to improve still
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>>491870919
Art.
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>>491871493
They just have the gene, that's all
If time in the lab was all that mattered anyone could get good
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>>491870919
yuel should be cooked
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FACT
This general would be better without charlotta and her posters
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>Every match vs 2B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsfK3Ex6758
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>>491871493
>I remember when sf6 came out Punk got washed by a rando honda. He johned a bit about it then he went into the lab and learned to perfect parry buttslam and headbutt.
>Then he got that Honda back. Its about the journey.
Nta but I feel like this is one of the best parts of fighting games, where you are piecing together a puzzle, finally find where that piece goes and actually implementing it in a real match
And there are a lot of pieces of the puzzle, because even though on first glance an interaction might look the same with a character vs another character, it might differ for another character and you have to adapt the answer in another specific way, often mid-match
Honestly few genres can come close
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>>491868782
because:
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>>491871863
kek
i love this clip so much
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>>491871931
>Dying with 3BP
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>>491871931
bro got all these combos and fuzzy overheads and is stuck s
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GENE THIS GENE THAT
SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGA
RISING WAS MY FIRST FIGHTING GAME
DO YOU KNOW HOW SHIT I WAS AT THE START?
I COULDN'T EVEN DO A MOTHERFUCKING HADOKEN.
YEAH I COULDN'T EVEN DO A FUCKING 236 MOTION, CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE THAT SHIT?
IT TOOK ME LIKE 800 HOURS AND 9 THOUSAND MATCHES OF EATING SHIT BUT I'M FINALLY NOT A MEME
STOP BEING SUCH A FUCKING CRYBABY NIGGER WA WA I WILL NEVER BE GOOD
>T. S++5 GRAN MAIN
ALL CAPS
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>spent 2 hours labbing something
>already forgot how to do it 10 mins later
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>>491866424
>Illuminated World starts playing
>"I can't escape the sins of my past. But I will never... repeat them. ...Never!"
>BELIEVE IN VICTORY
>BATTLE 1
>ENGAGE!
Legitimately sick as fuck
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Good morning.
I hate Avatar.
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>>491871931
>not a technical super
oh nyo nyo nyo nyo
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>>491872284
S++ is still a meme lil bro
Get into Masters at least and then we can talk about you being maybe passable
Not a humblebrag because Masters is still shit.
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>>491872257
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>>491872284
do you want a cookie
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>>491871674
There is some level of talent involved sure, but thats like anything in life. Sports, league, you name it
You be the best you
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>>491872668
YEAH I'LL STILL GRIND
I'M NOT LIKE ANY OF THESE BITCHES ON THIS BOARD
SOME DAYS I DROP TO S+3 BUT I WON'T GIVE UP
ONE DAY I WILL BE MASTER
DANCHOU WILL ALWAYS WIN
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Win Evo and then we’ll talk (Evo winner is still shit btw)
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>grandmaster belial trying to play random
>gets absolutely shitstomped every time he gets a character without a free reversal

No wonder he is in S rank
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>>491873182
Nah, being an evo winner is pretty quantifiably being good at the game
Being Masters means little to nothing in comparison.
Hell, I can block everyone on ranked aside from the people I beat and climb to masters on any number of chars right now. That's how bad GBF's ranked system is
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>still having melties on Monday
you need Jesus de arimasu
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>>491873359
>Nah, being an evo winner is pretty quantifiably being good at the game
Nice cope, Aaron
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>Just run sets bro that's how you improve at a high level!
Run sets with who? The top players in their secret Illuminati discord?
The lower level players I can already beat without trying?
It's not like anyone socializes
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>>491872284
Based anon, tell the doomers whats up
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Can someone describe what dating bea would be like
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>>491873359
>GBF
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>>491872680
ull make it one day stupid frog poster
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>>491873950
Ever held hands with a monkey?
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>big meaty has come and gone
>sieg and bea are still niggers
See you on the rat patch I guess
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>>491874317
when I was little my class went to the zoo to see a gorilla exhibit.
one of the male gorillas was beating another male to death , left him dying and then began to beat his mate half to death with a rock and raped her infront of the other dying gorilla.
we never went to the zoo again.
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>Elodius telling Shosan that he has a new combo live on stream
This is cute.
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賢い仁よ、君の知恵を貸してください。
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>>491874394
Both have been nerfed since launch. Time to learn the matchup.
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>>491872668
I play charlotta so that has to do quite a lot with how I got to master, but:

as a complete newbie player to fighting games, to get to master I simply watched no stop Kamiji's replays (top crystals charlotta back then and even right now iirc) and literally copied what he did. since I was a complete noob to FGs I didn't understand or realize most of the stuff he did, however copying him blindly helped me improve and find out the best combos/routes or how to deal with certain characters and more
this caused issues however, I got to master without a solid basis and fundies, I developed that (still developing actually lol) only after fighting lots of matches there

I literally never watch my replays but that's because I'm the kind of person that loses a round, and during the losing animation goes "oh I should've done that maybe" so I'm quick to realize why I lost. if you can't you need to watch them or you'll never find out what you're missing

finally, I only mentioned master because you guys are obsessed with it, but it doesn't mean shit in terms of how good you are at the game

I hope it helps. but again, charlotta is the easiest character in the game
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>>491875082
how many hours
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>>491875156
how many hours what? right now or when I got to master?
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>>491875082
copying top players blindly is dumb as fuck because most of them are playing the delay + counter delay yomi game
you try half the shit gamera or hursix or koyao does in ranked you WILL get mashed on and you WILL die for it
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>>491875210
to master
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>>491874939
I will continue to cry about every character that's stronger than mine and you can't stop me
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>>491875249
>you try half the shit gamera or hursix or koyao does in ranked you WILL get mashed on and you WILL die for it
I mean that's going to happen no matter what in this game because all the game is is "Do you have the gene or don't you" at a high level
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>>491875249
You can still copy their level 1. What do they do in neutral, what knockdowns do they use and what oki do they take advantage of.
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>>491875270
I think around 100ish but I played a lot of Grand Bruise
I got there in a little more than 1k games, I took this picture when I did
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>>491875082
dis u?
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>>491875708
das GAWDlike
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>>491875798
KEK that actually resembles a bit my matches with 2B anon
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>>491875708
>complete FG noob
>only took 100 hours and 1k matches to master
stop lying you dishonest cunt
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>>491876056
play charlotta, unironically

I have no fighting game experience besides completing the gauntlet mode in Tekken 3 as a child which was the hardest thing I've done in my infancy lol
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>>491876056
charlotta is the safest character in the game
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>>491876056
It’s within the realm of possibility, but if it’s true then they would be extremely talented
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>>491868782
Kind of what I feel. When I lose, most of the time I barely manage to put up a fight. When I win, it feels like I just got lucky because more of my guesses were correct (unless I played against someone who is on a noticeably lower level/completely new). No matter how much I play or study my replays and practice situations in training mode, or try to copy from good players, my win rate does not increase and I don't feel any improvement. I think the biggest hindrance is my bad reaction time since the things I have the most difficulty with and don't find myself getting any more consistent at are anti-airing, hit confirming, escaping grabs, spot dodging RS, and reacting to gaps in pressure (to try to take my turn back), but every good player says reaction times don't matter so idk.
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https://youtu.be/xzpndHtdl9A?si=I8_5ccY8C4QM3KIQ
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My average score in Robomi's minigame is 20, if you reflex check me with a raging strike I will get hit
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Every time you feel mad about a literal video game you should remember that you only have one life, someday you will cease to exist and none of this will matter.
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>>491877487
Karl
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>>491876693
Yeah you sound like me
When I play the top players (Diaphone, Zane, Hava, Ladewaybac, etc) I just get fucking rushed down and can never even get out of pressure let alone conduct my own for more than two seconds
No matter how much I practice frametraps or pressure sequences I just get mashed out every time
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lmao I'm literally never going to be able to win against bubz
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>>491876693
They dont, most of those things get better with experience.
Its like dodging a punch irl. Its impossible to see it and react but with training and experience you start to understand the pre motions or situations they come.
If someones in the corner, they are more likely to jump, or use a jumpscare or BC. So you can expect those options more
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>slowly leans forward
>puts hand on chin
>tilts head
>smiles
>leans back
>character selected
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Karl spotted outside of the containment zone
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>>491878218
hey, that's me!
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>>491878241
Yeah, ZZZ feels like a gacha that could appeal to FGkeks.
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>>491878098
>They dont
Explain why they can tech every grab and I can't even when I expect it then dumb nigga
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>>491877913
If you get mashed out then they arent real. If you are using loose pressure it will get mashed.
Fake shit rarely works until you show them real shit.
Abel's fly command grab rarely lands if you use it first.
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>>491866924
Make this choking image, but the other Chars join in
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>>491878786
charlotta loves ferry and her animals though
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>>491878396
If you cant tech grabs expecting them you either arent actually or you are overthinking the situation. Tech windows are huge in rising and you can settle for delay mashing to get mash techs automatically.
If people are teching all your grabs, they are expecting it. Hell REACTING to grabs is the worst habit, you'll just get shimmied and fucking die.
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>>491878492
>Fake shit rarely works until you show them real shit.
If I do "real shit" they just block forever and then my turn ends
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What is the next stage?
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>>491878943
Siero impregnation
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>Zeta's counterhit 5U can combo from midscreen now
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SHUT THE FUCK UP
I AM PLUS
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>>491878842
>If you cant tech grabs expecting them you either arent actually or you are overthinking the situation.
Yeah let me just react to 2B doing fucking full screen slide low in 0.5s real quick and then parse the times she doesn't do that and instead grabs
bullshit that reaction times don't matter LMFAO
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this anon didn't come back after Bea's patch
i spit on his carried corpse
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>>491878863
Thats fine, you start with real shit to show them you have it, then you start using faker shit, and by the end you use the real fraudulent shit.
Even on Abel, I cant just start doing fake shit right from the get go and like, he's 90% fraudulent nonsense. Gotta start with fireballs, 66L, and safe jump setups
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>>491879505
harvins are the strongest race on earth
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>>491879452
>hunting newcuties again
let me guess
he wasn't a pink square player as well
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>>491880018
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>>491879494
No one reacts to jumpscares. When you see that most the time they are reacting to screen flashes.
However if say Soriz is full screen, its safe to assume the only thing I need to react to is dash punch so I can be ready to spot dodge.
Yeah sure reaction times help, but the nature of fighting other people is variance. You cant react to everything so you react to the obvious or react to the situation taking the least risk.
In any case, I'm done. You can blame it all on reaction times. I dont care
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breeding harvins
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did I just get fucking rollback on the round start countdown
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>>491880303
I can hear the benny hills
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>>491879452
you were actually minus but he hesitated on the punish
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>>491880514
it's a newcutie A rank getting bullied by our resident loser charlottaanon what did you expect
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>>491880514
NYO I AM PLUS
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>>491880603
but the "loser" won?
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>>491880697
Let me guess this one wasn't a pink square as well
I dare you to not cover up the square color of your opponent
You won't, because you're a faggot
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>>491880754
>Now he's bragging about beating up a newcutie
holy fucking shit man can you get ANY more pathetic?
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>>491880334
How is 2B just running at you a jump scare? At any point she can hit a button to instantly cancel her momentum, slide in at mach 5 to 2L or throw there's barely any time to react
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>jump and flip
>cool pose

Leave Charlotta Anon alone.
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>>491881008
I'm not him
it's just that if you see "Victory" on your screen you won, simple as, any excuse you used doesn't matter.........
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>>491873359
>being an evo winner is pretty quantifiably being good at the game
No. Literally no one is good at this game.
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>>491881072
>'I'm not him'
>When charlottaanon admits to falseflagging replies to defend/shill himself >>491865327
X
also rope
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>>491868782
>and even if I lose as long as I did a cool play I can still feel happy about the match.
What's stopping you from applying this mentality to fighting games?
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>>491868782
>I really don't understand the appeal of the genre if you aren't a top player
I like the game
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they are my lobby rivals actually
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>>491881354
Because my matches are never close in fighting games
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>>491835003
masters
homoknights
gundam 00
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>>491879452
>>491879505
>>491880018
>>491880303
>>491880697
Most sane Charlotta gameplay.
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I will be gone today Karl. Please just talk to me, show me you have't abandoned me. I miss you so much... I will respond as soon as possible Karl just please don't leave me...
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>>491881709
matches are almost never close in MOBAs either lol, I was surprised you gave that example in the first place because they're pretty much the worst genre when it comes to this, if you lose the first 10 mins in the laning phase in MOBAs it's over, but in fighting games comebacks are super commmon
anyways, sooner or later you will be put in a rank where you get matched up against people your own skill level, so I wouldn't worry about it too much
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>>491881930
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>>491865357
every sheeptard all the way into master is a l sheep into dp on minus frames spamming retard, the win rate reflects that. same for charlottards, but she's more idiot friendly so it's not as bad for her
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>>491881969
>matches are almost never close in MOBAs either lol
The laning matchups are even if the games themselves may not be
>sooner or later you will be put in a rank where you get matched up against people your own skill level
You can't derank from masters
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>>491882051
my win rate has always been above 50%...
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>>491881930
>all this content was created from sharking newcuties, the same kind of content farming player who gbvsrg has a grudge against
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>Newcuties
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>>491882268
nah
some of those webms aren't from him
he plays the base color
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There's nothing wrong with liking cocks
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>>491882524
ok but he's still a gigantic faggot
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>>491882683
you LOVE stinky.
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>>491882732
>>491880845
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>>491882528
Lancelotbro btw.
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>>491882883
I don't know how to tell you I'm not him
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there's base(d) charlotta
red charlotta
silver charlotta
xerom charlotta
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>>491883069
>silver
?

also you forgot about brown charlotta
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2B's skill gauge barely feels like a fucking limitation on anything this cancer ass character can do
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imma 5m
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>>491883020
its okay I know that terminally online fuck is reading this
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>>491883306
no he's sharking your friends
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Did Stinky rape someone's dog?
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>>491883191
just 66L her
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>>491883421
>I'm not him he says right before this
work on your acting skills if you want your falseflags to not be so obvious
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>back from an extremely boring day at work
>feeling pretty down maybe some granblue will cheer me up
>boot up and queue for some casuals to do the challenges
>first match vs sieg
>lose
>second match vs a lancelot pressing buttons and spazzing out doing god knows what
>lose
>third match vs a versusia holding back the whole fucking time
>lose and close game
Maybe tomorrow.
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>>491883462
She's out of range
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>>491878098
I mean I've played enough to build up the kind of general situational awareness needed to understand what options are more likely to be used and when, but (as an example) unless I was specifically sitting there squatting waiting to 2H an aerial approach and nothing more, I've never been able to pull it off on the fly while covering other options a few frames prior. RS has a purely reactional spotdodge window, but I can never get it in a real fight. Sure, I get it plenty of times from preemptive spotdodging based on me understanding the situation knowing that it's one of the options the opponent might do, but when I'm wrong I'm eating another 40-60%. I'm not expecting anyone to react to random 5-9f normals though (I think that might be closer to your punching analogy). But I'm not disagreeing with you, I probably just need to play more.
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What did they do to Zetas combo limits?
I see Shosan doing XX during his 22U setups.
I accidentally posted this on the wrong board
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>>491880514
I labbed it and apparently Mom c.H is fucking 13f
I'm minus 8-9 in that scenario so he was only 2-3f late
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>>491883559
what character do you play
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>>491884129
Bubs and Luci
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>>491883462
>literally just tried this and ate a fat 5H cH that costed me the match
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>>491883820
doing XX?
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Crazy how Nier just vanished from relevance overnight
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>>491885117
She can still play ping pong with desu...
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>>491884808
luci has great tools against 2B
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>>491885117
Elsa did work in the team battle wat
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>>491885117
>delay 2L into full ping pong combo
>full combo conversions from full screen death jumpscare
she's still cancer
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The unholy trinity of troons
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>>491884828
Two hits of an autocombo, like cMM.
I'm aware that this is done for the combo-limit, but don't think this was necessary before.
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>>491885237
Like what? f.L and f.M get stuffed or don't even reach her from her ideal range and throwing out 623L is a fucking callout
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>>491885451
I literally only know who SQ is
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>>491884810
>he listened to him
lol
you need to cheese the fuck out of 2B, absolutely refuse to play neutral with her because it's a lost cause
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>>491886038
Yeah I should've known better than to take the words of a 2B fraud, fell for the oldest trick in the book: listening to a character's main
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>lagswitched on my winning combo
>drop it and die
>"okay, maybe he just lagged, I won't 1frame him yet"
>it happens again
>i die before I get to 1frame his ass
never doubt yourself, fuck all netplayers
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>>491886290
how do you 1 frame even
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>>491886038
>refuse to play neutral
>5 seconds later find myself in a corner with her half screen away from me endlessly spamming me with her massive normals
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Who'll be the obligatory big body of S2? Mom was a surprising but welcome twist.
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>>491886463
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>>491886589
seems like too much work
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>>491885603
your 66L is ridiculous and mogs her 5M
your fM fights her at relevant ranges where shed use 5H in pressure
you can TP her whiff cancels and projectiles on reaction
her buttons are good but so are yours, and shes a lot more committal on hers. use your buttons defensively to stuff her approaches.
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>>491886891
Show me your video of beating Ladewaybac and Yoru-sensei then I'll wait since it's so fucking easy apparently
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>2B
>Comitting to anything
the shit I read in this general
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>>491886891
>and shes a lot more committal on hers
>literally can end with pod and be safe vs every option except for fucking hard callout roll since it's not reactable
lmfao
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>>491886891
>2B is a lot more committal
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Why is Lazy Ruin still S+ rank on Versusia.
I played him in ranked the other day so I know he's been there for at least a few days
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>>491887367
>>491887604
When I say committal I obviously mean in neutral. 2B can't whiff her 5M like katalina can f.M or luci can 2M to essentially wall you out without too much risk. 2B is praying her 5M hits you or she's expecting a jump normal or ultimate skill, and in lucis case any of his teleports.
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>>491887864
Probably intentionally throwing games to beat up on newfags for content clout
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>>491887883
>When I say committal I obviously mean in neutral
Good news, now that you can just run at the opponent at mach 5 and slide in 2A like a fucking HnK character boosting up your ass she doesn't need to do that anymore after she makes you block once
>Luci can 2M
ok you're just shitposting at this point
yeah let me throw out my 13F recovery move with less range than fucking c.L against 2B who can attack from 4 character spaces away
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>>491883178
>?
Light Charlotta color
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>>491887883
>When I say committal I obviously mean in neutral.
stop
just stop posting.
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>Never think much about Vane whenever i run into one
>Always feels like i'm winning the game
>Always lose
Literally how???
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>>491887883
>When I say committal I obviously mean in neutral
Yeah because so many characters can poke back after 2B tags them with f.M and f.H right
jesus christ
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>>491887883
>2B can't whiff her 5M like katalina can f.M or luci can 2M to essentially wall you out without too much risk.
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>foe is playing as Beatrix/Charlotta
>now i have to endure the horrid screeching passed as voice acting
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>>491887883
>2B can't whiff her 5M like katalina
How can you say this, not only is it whiff cancellable, it also has comparable frame data to f.Ms, so if you are getting your 5M whiff punished, you are straight up being gapped.
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>2Bfags are so fucking deluded that they believe their character, who is literally and entirely built around ignoring or skipping neutral play, has to COMMIT in neutral
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I guess all logical thinking goes out the window when you're pissed off at 2B

>>491888207
She can't block/jump out of her command dash so she's wide open for the 30+ frames shes running at you. It also has a very obvious startup animation.

>2M bad
The whole point of your 2M is to toss out a quick and hard to whiff punish hitbox that stuffs approaches.

>>491888510
>>491888572
>>491888817
I'm talking about the relative risk upon whiff.
Katalina is never going to eat a jH for wanting to press fM in neutral.

>comparable frame data
No 2B is going to hit/block confirm her 5M. She's going into one follow-up attack at minimum adding a lot more recovery. There's a reason jumping over her normals is one of the main ways to hard punish her.
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Mmmmhhhh today I will walk forward and fireball.
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>>491889859
>2B is going to hit/block confirm her 5M
Yeah because they are bad at the game
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yeah dood just yoomp, lmao, go on, press oop dood just yoomp at me hahaha
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2B was a mistake
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>>491890143
It's massive but the nerfs this patch made it near impossible to combo off a non-CH hit, so jumping at her is pretty low risk if you're capable of confirming whether she's whiffing normals or not while you're in the air.
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>>491889859
>Just react in 7f bro totally realistic in the heat of a match
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>>491889859
>Katalina is never going to eat a jH for wanting to press fM in neutral.
Post a video showing what happens if both 2B and Katalina do their 5Ms and someone jumps at them and jH/M them.
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>>491889859
>It also has a very obvious startup animation.
So obvious that Diaphone and Ladewaybac were consistently destroying people by just running into 2L at people repeatedly in multiple tournies recently
weird!
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>>491890489
Nobody told you to react...
lucischizo why are you like this?
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>>491890143
>reaches the meter bar
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>>491889859
Now do that webm in a real match
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>a 2Btard is telling you to jump in on her
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>>491890960
I mean he also posted this, so... >>491875798
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>becomes even bigger in your path
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>>491870919
why is Seox committing arson kek
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I had to check but 5M is definitely hit confirmable
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>>491891460
Even if she blocks it who cares she has like 500 pressure extender specials that can't be universally dealt with
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>>491891460
OHNONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
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>>491891562
Yeah but his argument is that by default 2B will always do 5MM because 5M is not confirmable, so jumping because more viable since you will have more time to whiff punish her follow up.
But that's clearly not true and is actually a skill issue statement
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>>491891460
Please tell me this is katgawd. The poetic justice would be tangible
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>>491890576
This is what I'm talking about. Everyone cries about her whiff cancels but they tend to just work against her most of the time.
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>f.H or f.M
5H
>fireball
grappling hook
>jump in
2H
>BC
backdash cancel
i hate 2B so much its unreal
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>>491892209

>>491891460
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You're in for it now 2B
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>>491889859
I think your arguments are valid and you are correct to point out that 2B has flaws.
But at some point you have to acknowledge that her flaws don’t hold her back in practice THAT much. NA alone has four different 2Bs who consistently place highly in the biggest tournaments.
>skill issue, people don’t know the matchup, etc
You can always say that forever about any character though. Theory has to be validated by empirical data, and high level tournament competition is the best data we have. If you just continue to say that a character is bad no matter what results they get, you just end up being as delusional as Nezu.
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>>491892209
That's 5MM, hitconfirm your 5M like a normal person instead of mashing
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2Bnigger and cagtroon genocide
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guys I'm pretty sure he's baiting, it's kind of obvious with the last webm he posted......
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>>491891460
Okay, but instead have djeeta wiggle back and forth simulating footsies and then consistently confirm whether it's a slight whiff, or a raw hit/on block. If this shit was as easy as you're making it out to be, then you guys wouldn't be crying about her whiff cancels in the first place.

>>491892640
Would be some mad cognitive dissonance for you rn if you're one of the people who complain about her whiff cancels
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>>491892792
I had arguments with him for tens of minutes multiple times. He is not.
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>>491892792
>guys I'm pretty sure he's baiting
............
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>>491892876
>Okay, but instead have djeeta wiggle back and forth simulating footsies and then consistently confirm whether it's a slight whiff, or a raw hit/on block.
that doesn't matter, you don't know how to hit confirm.
you don't need to see your opponent's movement at all, you are reacting to the hit effect, the sound effect of hitting, and some people will look at the health bar for hitconfirms by seeing the red in the bar appear, that's all you need to be able to react to.

The opponent wiggling back and forth doesn't make the act of hit confirming harder, it makes you actually hitting them harder, that's why they do it.
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>>491891460
I probably have the worst reaction time in this entire thread (tested it online a bunch of times and get the same results as a 50 year old would), and I could hit confirm this easily without practice lol
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>>491865059
MMMMMSSSSCCCCHHHHLLLLLLLRRRRRPPPPPPPP
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>>491893160
>and some people will look at the health bar for hitconfirms by seeing the red in the bar appear
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>>491893160
>and some people will look at the health bar for hitconfirms by seeing the red in the bar appear
what the actual fuck? kek
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*cums inside all zoiposters*
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Wait, I'm pretty sure they said they added a feature to teleport to the players in the lobby? But I can't seem to find it?
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whats the answer to abels pink flight command throw/beam 50/50 into all my HP
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>>491895517
you should probably post what character you are playing when asking for counterplay
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>>491895517
if you read the grab and jump you can get a funny momento
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>>491895594
>still missing the best
https://files.catbox.moe/i5q6wh.ogg
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>>491895594
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>some people will look at the health bar for hitconfirms
and just like that the deafening sound of a thousand anons opening training mode and setting the dummy block to "random" was heads
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>>491895594
0:25's sound is followed by my opponent's 30hit 70% combo
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>>491894212
In sfv pros looked at the stun bar to hitconfirm
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>>491894212
theres no chip damage from normals, so you will only see red on the bar on hit
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>>491890821
what the shit
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>>491895517
dp because his DP bait options are garbage
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>>491896384
yeah but it sounds inconvenient
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>>491894212
>>491896017
is this really the first time you guys heard of this?
this place really is filled with first timers
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>Grand bruise weekly
>Early afternoon
>Mode recently added new content
>Still dead and taking over an hour to do the weekly
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>>491896779
it is but you don't usually have to do it, at least I don't
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>>491896758
what if I dont have a DP
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>>491896779
it's more or less as convenient as looking at your meter to see if you can route to super/ultimates etc mid combo
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>>491897178
it's different for me
if I hit someone I also have to check if it's a counterhit or not sometimes, so looking at the health bar is inconvenient

combos however are muscle memory, you can do them while getting distracted or looking somewhere else
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>>491897070
play a real character, but honestly doing a forward jump j.L will probably not be punished by most abels
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>>491896991
all these meme images of nier make me feel sad and makes me want to play her
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>>491892497
as someone who's watched NA tourneys quite a bit i can safely says NA doesn't know the matchup
2B players in NA get away with so much bullshit
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>>491896017
It makes the most sense really
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>>491897580
I'm lazy with relearning her atm but I will someday
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>>491897693
Ok. So the Nezu defense. Cool.
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>>491897787
someone post the lunar clip
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nezumiki
hatsoon
hatsunemiku
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>Fate's episode begins on gran stage
>Rollback goes to shit when the grandcypher appears
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>>491898124
LOL
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>>491898124
Mmm
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>>491898124
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I unironically use the normal versions of Orkan and the followups just to do something other than fucking KICKING with the GREATSWORD character. Optimal and safe Sieg is very fucking boring. I wanna use my fucking sword even if it kills me. With that said:

UWE
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Can someone post that pic that has Nier and Sheep as mcdonalds cashiers
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>>491898124
Brazilian Miku is the new hotness bro keep up.
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>>491898124
Truly a match made in Helll
To be fair to Hatstroon, he's slightly annoying but he needs to take a fucking course to get NEAR the level of cancer the tranny is at
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What do you think ferry smells like? I wanna sniff her hair
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>>491898124
hah
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>>491899531
Ectoplasm
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Just shidded away ten minutes at work kizzingtons ama
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>>491885451
aletheia is a siegfried tranny and I am nothing like those balding freaks kill yourself
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>>491899309
Sheep?
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>>491899317
>smooch autograph
Missed opportunity
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I'd just like to let gbvsg know that they did not fix the bug on cagliostro's air teleport this patch which leaves her facing or teleporting the wrong direction when the opponent inputs certain directions during the recovery or travel of TP. They probably just nerfed j.22U so that we wouldn't use it and therefore wouldn't notice.
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>>491899492
they're both huge downplayers
that's it
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GM giving each other more points is such a retarded system lol
after a while it'll simply be impossible to get to GM because theyre just farming points like crazy making it more a "who plays more" ranking than ever before
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>>491900296
Which Granblue character would /gbvsg/ want an asshole stamp from?
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time to die
desu!

do it now!
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>>491901881
my brapchang
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>>491901881
Bahamut
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>>491901881
Dog
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>>491900879
kys
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>>491901881
I don't want an asshole stamp I'm on the brink of crying if the cashier accidentally touches my hand again.
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>>491901881
Lunalu.
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>>491899309
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>EU ranked is still just metera, abel and lowain
I thought the big meaty would bring the normal players back?
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>>491901881
Sheep
The answer is always sheep
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>Boot up the game
>Keep getting matches where it often get laggy for a second or two
>Think nothing of it
>Fifth matches and it still happens
>Close game and do some tests
>Turns out I was the laggy fuck all long because for reasons best known to themselves my connection is having mini strokes every 40 seconds or so
If you met a laggy eustace, I'm sorry, I don't quite know what the fuck is up with my internet today.
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>>491902876
Cute dark haired girls.
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time to win neuch



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