Ragdoll Edition>Previous>>491842878>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible. https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_Wikihttps://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/>NEWSAugust 6: Escalation of Freedom Update https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339865428695343823August 13: A message from the devs https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339866697736692015August 20: 1.001.004 Patch https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/6992487606095723693August 21: 1.001.005 Hotfix https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4252047773008305837>CURRENT WARBONDAugust 8: Freedom's Flame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXngA0CO33c
FIRST FOR SWEDEN BEING THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
>11k currently
Good Divers Follow Orders
just 3 hours until the doom patch
Threadly reminder, Alexus is your Dark God. He will own this game like he owned Hello Neighbor 2. Rajeet and Pilestadt wont be able to stop him. TOTAL SERBIAN SUPREMACY! Only those who pray for MORE NERFS and MORE BROKEN BUGGY SHIT will be satisfied. Embrace the kino of "balance" join the prime-time 500 players online death cult today. THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER WONDERFUL FIX ALEXUS!!!
>>491979000>Why the fuck would you ever take a chaff clear gun as a strategem*laughs in MMG, Stalwart, Airburst, Grenade Launcher and Arc Thrower*
>>491979776to be fair these at least rape chaff the LC in its old state was fuckered
Sex with eagle 1!
reminder that only two guns were ever nerfed
>>491980071On time for once.Good job.
>>491980302Lets see, Slugger, Incendiary Breaker, Eruptor, Jackie Chan...Anon I already listed 4 weapons!
>>491980302>flamethrower>eruptor>railgun>incel breaker>breaker>slugger>sickleNeck yourself.
Is it truly over?
>>491980864>back over 10000WEAREBACKHELLSISTERS
>>491979419Embrace THIS
zamn, joel gave us an easy set of defenses. We're going to win the MO + not lose any ground. Fucking bullshit, I wanted to be railroaded into the ground for bullshit narrative purposes.
>>491980670The change to the Flamethrower was an exploit fix though :^)
>>491981150The real question is, after defending Socorro will anyone come to Matar Bay's defense. It has even less HP than Socorro and the current botdiver numbers are enough to just barely lose it. Dump a couple thousand players on and the defense will succeed, though I surmise that nobody would complain about fighting on Matar Bay instead of Choohe for a few weeks.
>>491981217>but muh nonstop nerf narrativeSlugger is also still better than on release but they will never acknowledge that either.
>>491979776Arc thrower is the only one on that list worth a shit and you can't even use it without accidentally team killing someone you didn't even see on your screen.
>>491981484gonna be a brand new battery waiting for you when the swedes are back from vacation you serb.
>>491981484No its fucking not. Stop smoking Alexus' dick.
>>491981484>Slugger is also still better than on releaseWait you sure about this? I think it does way less dmg to devastators now for some reason
>>491981957It's effective range is way lower meaning damage drop off fucks it even harder than it did before.The moment a bullet leaves a gun it already loses damage.
>>491981957>>491981954>still 1 taps devs in the face>still staggers devs>50% bigger ammo poolStop being silly.
>>491982238Yeah but what is the shots to kill to the body at 20m before and after the damage falloff change?
>no windup>no brace>no animation>just walks around a corner and insta zoops an ICBM at you the frame it has LOS on youI do not care for this enemy
>>491982394Yeah. It's why I always carry a railgun now>one shot scoops it's head clean offThat's the stuff
gonna take a fat shit, then gonna host a lobby for matar bay bot defense.
>>491978771>>491981484>>491981865WHAT'S THAT, IS IT TIME FOR>w-what, where the fuck am I, who are you people... I don't understand, I nerfed all the things the discord trannies told me to! What are these cables on my balls? What's that SMELL?>SHUT UP, EAT THE SURSTROMMING, EAT THE FUCKING SURSTROMMING>oohgghh ffufcckk, HRRRRKKKGGHHHHH>>YOU'RE GOING TO BE OF PLAYING THE UNRELEASED DIFFICULTY 12 NOW, FOR THE NEXT 16 HOURS STRAIGHT>w-whhhyyy? the players can't even access it let alone complete it, WHY DO I HAVE TO PLAYTEST?>SHUT THE FUCK UP, HERE'S THE LAUNCH ERUPTOR, IT FEELS GOOD DOESN'T IT? WE EVEN TURNED OFF THE MAGNETIC RICOCHETS YOU ADDED>but it can wipe a chaff patrol in one shot if I'm lucky, this is imbalans->*BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPPPTTTTTTT*>AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYYY BBBBLYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT, YYYYYYYy-ES yes sir, THIS f-feels balancedddd>NOW HERE'S THE POST-UPDATED ERUPTOR, HOW DOES IT FEEL?>just a sidegrade, i-it's not so ba->*BBBBBBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, ZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTKKSSSSSSSHHHHHH*>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUGGHHH, AAAAAAAHHH HAAAOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIIIIIEEEEEEEE IT'S SHIIIIIIIIT IT'S FUCKING SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT>very good, now that we've established a baseline, for your first Inner Circle of Hell run you'll be using the base Liberator with no support weapon and level 0 stratagems, have fun!>No, no, please, no- *BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT* AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOONNNNNNOOOOOOOGGGGGHHHHHH>I WANT YOU TO SAY THE FUCKING LINE BALANCE PIGGY, SAY IT>nnooohooohooooo... sssoobb, ssniff... A-a game f-for everyone is a g-game for no ooonnnnEEEAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH *ZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPP*>HELLDIVERS TO HELLPODS, REPEAT, HELLDIVERS TO HELLPODSmore arc weapon buffs soon TM
>>491982453>one shot scoops it's head clean off>It still somehow manages to survive and continues firing its stupid fuckoff rockets
>>491982394I have never been hit by its missiles, they always miss, only time I've been killed it's when they are shooting my teammates instead of me
>>491982394I never have a problem with them up close. It's only when they are across a big ass plain or water body and always manage to snipe me from three miles away
>>491981865>lost to a furry with glasses
>>491982287I dont know but the 20 extra shots definitly make up for it.
>>491981217i wander what they say to try and either ask forgiveness or gaslight people about the flammer changes
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241715985441/76561198068408065BOTS - Matar Bay - D10
>>491982565I miss Arc thrower...it was the perfect fun weapon until PS5 cunts ruined it.
>>491982394>4 of them fire their rockets at me and a teammate>they pass all around and inbetween usSome cartoon shit. Since then i apreciate them a litle more.
I need to go unlock D10, bros...Wish me luck
Patchbros?
>>491983320 (me)seems like botsissies are tired. Lobby decides I suppose (Sorroco enjoyers?)
It's way too early dude I'll play in a few hours
>>491983945>too early
>>491984363>europoor
>>491984363It's morning in the civilized world (Europe) right now.
>>491984701Australian I think
>>491983004>I dont know butPff lmaoActual drone
>>491985227>muh numbersLol actual Excel autismo android.
>>491983320 (me)Lobby closed. Democracy is DEAD. We've failed chuddivers... it's joelver.
>>491985481>americans snoozing>euros waging>chinese kickedOnly aussies now and they can get a similair experience to the bugfront by taking a walk through nature.
>>491985481>Our heroes will be remembered, and their failure will be redressed. DISGRACEFUL CONDUCT
Firing HMG feels like holding a fat rat by its nuts and shaking it until it farts.That is all.
>>491986775I wish it was stuck on the lowest RPM but had more ammo, so satisfying to just lay down huge boolet
>>491986895I wish they'd restore the max RoF to 1150. Being able to zap a limb out of existence was fun.
I want to like the AMR and use it more but its 7 round mag feels like fully metastasized ultracancer after getting used to AC's 10 and DCS's 15
>>491988534lIt's not hard to manage>Don't waste shots>Only shoot up to 6 times >Search for ammo boxes and always resupplyDon't even need to carry a supply backpack like the HMG or the GL
>>491988534Hitting hard while still being able to reload on the go more than makes up for it.
>>491978771Has anyone been brave enough to buy the latest mortar upgrade? I'm afraid of it.
>>491988534You should actually snipe with it instead of trying to brawl
>>491987808this anon has an objectively correct opinion. HMG was more fun when you could brrt what was in front of you out of existence
>>491988946I have no desire to "manage" things, I come to dakka until my dopamine receptors are fully covered in happy sauce, if I want a /k/ autism sim I'll boot up ARMA or some shitWith all that said, I can manage it, but it's still ass pain
If you can't solve these puzzles under 10 seconds, you are BROWN!
>>491989243>I have no desire to "manage" thingsthis diver is incapable of counting to 10
>>491989243Yeah I get you but ammo economy is good enough as it is for a backpackless non-stationary reload gun and anti-materiel rifles in general don't have magazines with a lot of ammo in general, real-life or gamesFixing the stupid sights and making it actually anti-materiel would improve its ammo economy way more than increasing the magazine size
>>491989410Remember you get a 3 round mag for realism but this shit is how you flip a valve
>>491981484The only way you can even be mistaken as right about this is because the ammo and ressuply for the slugger was fucked up on release. Everything about the actual gun is worse. "But the penetr--!!!" The incompotent AH devs admitted that was just listed incorrectly.
Anyone ever tried using the Flamer on a Factory Strider?
>hosting d7 bugs>get through nuke + oil extraction with a nice squad>finale exterminate>take sentries and a mech for fun>call in AC sentry>someone calls in a mech, I also do>they walk into my AC sentries line of fire and get shredded in their mech>I tell them to take mine since my sentry fucked theirs>by the time I finished writing they destroyed my sentry>they pause for a bit and without saying anything they DCSorry bro, not sure if they got embarrased for destroying the turret or ragequit.
How are people still playing this? You're not sick of the same shit over and over yet?
>Take four sentries because why the fuck not lmao>Scavenge for weapons and backpacks from my fellow retards>Wind up with an EAT and a Guard Dog Rover>Guy comes up and offers me to trade for my Rover>He gives me a Spear backpack>Pick up what I think is a Spear nearby>It's not, it's a Commando that someone else called>Go poke around and find the dropped Spear in some ass end of the area we were in nearbylmao, this is fun
>>491990106I mean you can kill them with it but it's shit against everything else on the bot front so it's pretty much just a meme
>>491990315The Democracy Officer convinced me to keep fighting the good fight.I've not played since the Tarkov Wipe and will be playing the fuck out of Space Marine
>>491990521A highly specialized but effective meme is called a counter
>>491990765but it's not even effective, it takes nearly 2 full tanks to kill them
>>491990080Slugger and punisher went from 40 rounds in reserve to 60. The only way you mistake this for a bug is if you are retarded.
>>491990557From what I saw of space marine it looks exactly like darktide but with space marines and nu-doom executions
>>491990315Unironically the core gameplay is fun, the game's style with the "last stand holdout" is kino.Too bad the devs have been trying their hardest to ruin this game. If not for the shiteating devs then this game would be pure unadulterated fun.A game doesn't need more than good core gameplay for people to play it unless they are a dopamine receptor fried tranoid.You aren't a dopamine receptor fried tranoid, are you?
>>491990924It gave me hero shooter vibes (overwatch). If it wasnt 40k it would probably hit Concord numbers but now it will atleast reach darktide numbers. Grim... dark.
>be consolefag>have crossplay on>meet a really cool gang of PCfrens>ran multiple 10s, no deaths, no friendly fire, constant lighthearted bants and RP along the way>we finish the set and everyone gets ready to part ways, as is tradition>"you should add us so we can play again sometime">they leave before i can tell them that crossplay friend requests still dont worki hope we cross paths again sometime.
Are bug defense missions bugged?Diffulcty 10 and every bug breach is... 5 scavengers, maybe some warriors. Wow amazing.
>>491991720Was there a secondary objective pick up the crying larvae? That shit can bug out spawns including patrols
I dive
>>491991939Are you him?
Patchie when?
What's the deal Arrowhead? why called that when they keep shooting themselves in the foot!
>>491990840Dont remember the exact numbers but at launch, you got fewer ressups and started with less ammo than intended without HPO. I dont remember if they adjusted something else.And i dont know why you would say something so inflammatory when the devs do things that "only a retard" would consider almost every patch since release.
>>491992337Next week one might drop on Tuesday with hopefully fresh leaks. Then we get a new stratagem (likely orbital napalm barrage) on the 5th
>>491993016So they spent 2 weeks of their 2 months and did fucking nothing?
>he doesn't know Orbital Precision Strike can ricochet off armored targets
>>491993162No the released a mini patch that made the flammer worse and then a hotfix for impalers crashing games if they died in the mega nesthonestly chud how dare you expect more
>>491993162Who knows. I wouldn't expect a big balance patch next week, likely some more fixes and shit. The 'big balance patch' will come probably in 4 weeks when the next warbond is due to drop, October 3rd, hopefully they took a lot of bitching to heart. Remember they unironically just got back from vacation.
>>491993273>>491993305Well, see you guys in 2 weeks then. Thanks for keeping threads alive btw
>he doesn't know guard dogs can be killed and destroyed
>>491993305>Remember they unironically just got back from vacation.its been 4 months since the patch dropped that Cemented the downfall of this crap. The offensive shit is not that they pissed off to vacation for a month, its that they didnt do anything noteworthy the three months prior
>>491993546Gamedev moves slow, especially professional gamedev in a commie ass country like sweden. What do you expect? This game took 6 years to make and they thought it would be smooth sailing live service where they pump out a warbond with a reskinned liberator and a couple skins every month, and some new stratagem that is ltierally some other stratagem with the projectile type changed. This entire plan failed, broke down, now they have DOUBLED the time between stratagems and warbonds, they have also DOUBLED the time between patches (used to be weekly, now it's bi-weekly) and who knows how stalled shit like the illuminates and new biomes are.
>>491993690>What do you expect?i dont know really, i write machine code for an industry where an hour downtime is 50k and a software bug could result in fatalities, so forgive me for laughing over their childish struggle.You know why gamedev moves slow? Zero accountability, mostly a buiseness from manchilds for literal childs, not like anyone is invested enough to drag them to court (unlike shit citizen)
Hey guy what is most violent way you can kill a helldiver ? Asking for a friend who keep having griefer trying to launch the pelican in asset mission
>>491993497>he know this just nowstay in your lane, shitter
>>491994061you take the most nazi looking pistol available and shoot them point blank in the head. bonus if body rolls down a ditchits not about the gore, its about sending a message
>>491994051If you really want to crack the code you can look into conspiracies floating around this thread, like how the actual devs who developed this game left arrowhead a year ago, and the current devs are the 'live service' team of incompetent diversity hires, women, indians, and are utterly incapable of working with the old engine that the old arrowhead guys left for them. I think pilestedt even said he was the 'last man standing' from the original team that started work 6 years ago, or something like that.
>>491994125>got his guard dogs killed>calls others shittersInsane projection
I will not host a lobby but I will complain about no lobbies
>>491994051Yeah that sounds real intimidating. You're such an authority on the subject. Woo.You writing a simple code to make a machine rotate some parts at set intervals isn't really comparable to getting pixels on a screen to do what you want them to.
>>491994198>like how the actual devs who developed this game left arrowhead a year ago, and the current devs are the 'live service' team of incompetent diversity hiresi dont know about live service but this is how it is for every other title.Usually a lot is outsourced and these contracts run out when the work is done. And the in house talent moves over to the next title.Its not like AH had a massive lay off wave like relic, we would have read that in the news
>>491994560Well I know for a fact Alexus (serb in charge of 'le balancing') was only hired last year around this time. That's like 6 months before the game's release.
>the last leaked support weapon stratagem is the missile silo>no other support weapons in the files>the only other red stratagems are the orbital napalm barrage, carpet bomb and air-to-air missile>vehicles confirmed not ready anytime soonIf you thought things were bad, I'm just here to remind you that we're already out of content.
>>4919946498 years to build and 6 months to tear down. Good job Alexus! S-tier game deving.
>>491994649>>491994825with the massive glut of profit why doesn't Pilestedt just rehire anyone he can get of the devteam proper and drop the faggot seatwarmers already, their sheer incompetence has to be just cause for firing
>>491994927He's a fat nice guy, he's going to try to salvage the game by putting direct community feedback into practice. I mean he's literally showing people reddit posts and going 'our players feel this right now' because the devs don't give a fuck or play the game at the highest tier. They are no joke going to balance d10 around youtubers because they can't finish d10 missions on their own, they test on playstation controllers because this game is designed to be a fun couch coop party game like the first game. I don't know anymore man I just really hope my faith in the guy isn't misplaced, I believe he really loves this game and is finally ready to give it the attention it deserves
>>491994927Swedish labor laws would make your suggestion literally impossible. And I just realizedIf Alexus was onboard 6 months prior to launch, then was the game actually 2 tiers better pre-release?
>>491994483its about accountability and repercussions.Can you guess why game dev is a save haven for troons and retards, despite being not the easiest desk job? because nothing happens to the studio no matter how much they fuck up
>teammate grabs bp and support weapon off body>respawn>'yo orange can u drop gear pls'>nah i need it i have 4 reds>dome him and take my shit back>Allied destroyer has left the squadron
>11,895 Helldivers ActiveJesus ChristI legit can't remember another game that got raped this hard by its own devs
alright, no patch todayback to sleep
>>491995256>not hosting yourselfYou deserve to get kicked.
>>491995071Pileofshit is not a "nice guy" he's just afraid of rocking the boat. If he was a nice guy then he would be making sure his game runs well, the players are having fun, and managing his studio in an organized and effective fashion. Instead he's so much of a pussy that even when he's working with his team on balancing and new content, the moment he looks away they cram in nerfs within picoseconds. Then Pileofshit takes a vacation and cries on reddit that his team morale is low so they can't do their jobs. ???Are these people even fucking human beings. Even a baby knows that if their situation sucks they need to change it, so they cry. Well fully grown swedes know their situation sucks so they cry too. But that doesn't fucking change anything.
>>491995745They are swiggers
>>491995129>a half year of Alexus prenerfing weapons>stealing 1/3 to 1/2 the reserve ammunition of most weapons>demoting primaries (Stalwart, Arc Thrower, Railgun, maybe MG-43) to support status based on being too stupid simple and intrinsically functional to nerf enough for his liking>removing weapon customization, helmet perks, functional armor as 'one-time gimmicks,' 'unnecessary,' 'OP,' excuses it to Pilestedt as a budgeting thing (they were actually all near complete)>fucking up the enemy balance and breakpoints retardedly because he likes watching his co-workers fail during playtesting, directly causing the retarded difficulty skewing>it's all the exact same failing upwards nonsense as Hello Neighbor 2 with the exact scale, methodology and timeframe for destruction>the game was already a palette/camera swap of the original as is now demanded, but got fucked up & reinvented on the final stretch into release, to better justify the ukroserbians unholy employment>he probably appealed to Pilestedts' better autistic nature in the worst way by cloaking every malicious change under 'muh realism' and Pilestedt was too stupid to catch onpleasePLEASE, ARROWHEADWATCH THIS MAN LIKE A HAWK AND FIRE HIM WITH CAUSE
>>491995129>If Alexus was onboard 6 months prior to launch, then was the game actually 2 tiers better pre-release?Would explain why everything but a few weapons and stratagems were hot garbage on release
>>491995154And I am pointing out that these are two vastly different trades with different hurdles.
Back after incel nerf, what's the current meta for bots and buggos.How's D10
TELL ME ABOUT ALEXUS!WHY DOES HE NERF THE GUNS?
>>491996279Gitting gud is the past, current and future meta
>>491996053exactly my point>customer tolerates them shipping literal sewage>customer surprised when the tank lorry rolls up the streetyesterday they wrote on discord that sony officials visit them today, fingers crossed for a good beating
>>491996547Be a fag somewhere else. I will always use the meta because I want the highest kill ratios and to help me carry randoms.
>>491996280Perhaps he's wondering why someone would complain about nerfs before leaving the game.
>see a mate that's about to get mounted by a medium bug>blast bug with my autocannon>bug dies>mate gets ragdolled, barely survives>know that he knows that I could have killed that bug just as easily with my primary>stims and gives me an angry stare>mfwyou're welcome btw
>184 players on CHOOKE>217 on AESIR PASSOk, the tortanic jokes were funny for a while, you can stop now. Hellsisters, is this game actually dead? Fr fr no cap?
>>491995256>>491996915This didn't happenAlso AI generated greentext faggot larp for some troon subreddit or discord group
>>491996968>release a stinker of an update with escalation of freedon>take 2 months off for holidays>right before they come back, they fuck with flamers in general and shoot themselves in the foot with the fire themed warbond>they have the audacity to say they need another 2 months to fix their retard changesIts unironically fucking over, this game won't survive AH stupidity.
>>491997208cool it with the incel rageanyone that plays with me knows I flip the coin on the AC peel gambit all the time
>>491996968Can Matar bay be save in time ?
>>491996625>sony officials visit them todayAre they going to make Alexus commit seppuku ,or are we going to start to notice alot of AH devs missing pinkies?
>>491997548Needs a thousand more people
>>491997648who knows, didnt snoy just last week launch a life service game that flopped with sub 1k player at launch? perhaps they are tightening the thumbscrews
>>491997648>Alexus commit seppukuyesSerbian seppuku, with a bottle
>>491997648>he thinks sony games overseas is still run by japan>not retards from california
Is fire really that bad vs bots?I sprayed down a squad of devs from a distance with the cookout and they all died in a reasonable amount of time.
>>491997792>Sony forces Alexus to shove a bottle up his ass>Something, Something, WW3 is started by another Balkans conflict.
anons, will Sony officials bring slides of community chatter to show the devs and ask their thoughts, ask why things are being thought and said, what they're going to do about it?Will Alexus be forced officially & under record to read the BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT pasta while very angry California Jews & grizzled Japanese businessmen that are absolutely definitely not Yakuza murder him with their eyes?
>>491997871Fire is awful, but cookout works well on bots.
>all those planets out there we'll never see>all those leaked stratagems we'll never ger>all those scrapped enemy concepts we'll never fight>get to watch the thousands of loyal players give up over developer incompetenceBeing a fan of this game is torture.
>>491979419>reddit shit
>>491997920>and what does this post say Alexus?>uh. it uh. It says bzzzzzt...>very well, keep readingI imagine him stuttering and holding back tears by the end.
>>491997681>a thousand more peopletry 3k and we can mabe do it
>>491995914Why are you spamming this twitteroid crap in here?>>491995071He's not a nice guy, he's a nerd. He's letting their inept PR team post from his accounts because he's too self-conscious about posting something that will rile up the twitteroids.And that's why you always see the most out of touch yesman crap come out under his accounts. Post showing that whoever made them has not touched the game, has not talked with the developers and is completely out of touch with why twitter and reddit are whining.Posts that, for some reason sound nothing like the guy from his presentations or live chats.
>>491996968>game has 40x more players than the horde shooters cited by some of its detractorsIt's dead, obviously.
The gap in performance between the tenderizer/adjudicator and every other AR in the game is comical.How are they ok with a 90 damage AR with no recoil but think ANY of the 60 damage weapons are anywhere near useful?
>>491998662No one is playing. Companion says we need 7.628% and there's 2174 players with a rate of 5.405% so I think that means we need 3069 players assuming the other planets remain the same
>>491999034those other games came out 30 years ago
>>491999497This, holy
holy fuck 8k players hahahaha
>>491999772L4D2, the game that came out ages ago, forces you to be scared of the swarm and constantly kite and work as a team is doing great. Better than ever even, as the Versus mode has allowed it to absorb some of the braindead TikTok audience from games like DBD.WWZ, the piece of shit that twitter whiners love so much is peaking at 1k players and came out in 2019.
>>491995302The Culling.
helldivers never cry
9K PLAYERS. GIVE IT UP FOR THE NEW LOW. 9K PLAYERS.
>no patchit's literally over...
>>492003142Surely next week. Next week everything will be fixed
I'm sure the 5k people still playing this game will enjoy that nerf patch in 45 days
Have I told you how much I hate Sweden?
>>492002394Meanwhile, in reality it's 15k by a conservative estimate (number of players on missions).>>492004232The current drop is numbers is due to Pilestedt once again bowing to the whiners. It happens every time:>new patch>whining begins>player numbers rise to spite the whiners>someone opens their mouth about how sorry they are the game still isn't casual enough>player numbers dropIt's almost like their CM team is too stupid to notice.
>>492004812
>>492004812>xitter nobodyfuck off
>>492004812Yo that's a long-ass tweet, holy fuck, that's like, 8 lines of text! A full on novel! An essay! A roman!
>>492002394Hey anon! Come check out this long-ass tweet! >>492004812Amazing, isn't it?
Alexus I will not threaten your life as that would be illegal, instead I will state matter-of-factly that if you ever dare to be anywhere near me I will rip your balls out with my bare hands, rape you with a broken glass bottle and maul your face so bad people will wonder if a pitbull mistook your fetal alcohol syndrome face for a toddler's
>>492005523you mad nigger?
>>492005009What a gay ass picture to post
>>492005523>A dev has fetal alcohol syndromeWell here's the fucking problem. Those people are mentally retarded.
>>492004812>Long ass fucking tweet>110 words, 616 charactersjfc twitter users are braindead.
>>492006059>A devNot a single Swigger "person" has been born without FAS. Normal people drink on someone else's death, Swiggers drink when they're pregnant/about to become dads because that means there will be more Swiggers on the world
>>492006268That man in particular is a Sea Monkey Porn Artist
>>492004812Player base has more constructive and interesting ideas than anything this coomer has come up with. Dick head needs feel better than everyone by looking down on both sides. What a faggot.
Okay. Maybe the bigger rewards were a bit of a scam, but I'm still looking forward to what Pileofshit said was coming. They're releasing whatever's supposed to be soon, right?
>>492006996Yes next week :)
>>492006996we have many more surprises in store for you
Someone make a lobby. The pubs are acting like they have fetal alcohol syndrome
Are the automaton fortresses supposed to have two high value samples? Sometimes they have them other times its just 1, never seen the same for bug fortresses
>>492008063ive seen up to 3 in the forts
New weapon leaked!!!111!!! Manualcannon
September 9 is around the corner Arrowhead, you won't wanna drop to 5000 concurrent players won't ya?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMMJust gonna leave this here
That like what, 6-9 attack already ?
>reddit rant & vent megathread is still open 6 months after release>22k+ comments>no patch today>11k active playerseasily the biggest fumble I've ever seen in gaming
I am playing bots and after I finish this pug I'll host
>>492012542>vomit emoji
>>492012542>furry avatar acting as the harbinger of updates (or lack thereof) for a game studioWrap it up, it's done
>choohe and aesir pass choohe and aesir pass choohe and aesir pass>this is all we’ve had for weeks and weeks before and after their “le big update” until trash finally opened>new defense planets, FINALLY>scotland already closing after a day>newest defense planet is the choohe biomei think this is it for me. the core gameplay is fun (mostly) but holy fucking christ these scum fucks have done nothing. no patch today. vehicles cancelled. maybe in a month when the new warbond and 60 days™ are up but until then this game is genuinely depressing to look at
>>492012542Why not? I guess having more than 1 actual bug fix to ship was too much for these swedes and they need another holiday?
>>492012836it had to be one of them
>>492012950roll
>>492012852noone knows :^) :^(
>>492013147I hecking love live service drip feed except there's no actual content and bug list gets bigger each time
>>492013382>3 weeks since fire warbond>orbital napalm ???at least vehicles arent being worked on while the balance and crash fixes are also not being worked on
>>492014227here’s a defense planet with the same biome as choohe enjoy
>>492014227>he thinks vehicles are ever being releasedgoing fast in rundivers would be too OP so they canned the whole thing
>>492014227>at least vehicles arent being worked onanon, I...
>>492015249Faust knew this?
>>492009846>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241744239252/76561198993299329
>this constant discourse about people wanting to casualize the gameIve got a PC and my friend has a ps, and we both agree the game crashes late in missions(40min in)I don't know how everyone defending the game gets the full experience but no amount of me or my hosts can consistently finish a mission, so that's the bigger issue
>recent reviews at 40% positivemostly negative soon fellow doomerbros...
How the fuck did the bug backpack die while I was in a mech?
>>4920157873/4bots 10 steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241744239252/76561198993299329
>>492016051full
>>492014817>>492014843ARENT bros
>>492004812This tweet fucking infuriated me. Meta builds are in every game. In CoD, there was a certain 9mm AK build that was mathematically proven to be "the best". The difference is that you could use basically any of the low-tier SMGs in that game and achieve similar, maybe marginally worse results. In HD2, if you run a low-tier build, you get your ass kicked six ways to Sunday. The "meta" in HD2 is simply "shit that works".
>>492004812I have not once looked up a "STATE OF THE META" hype video for HD2 because it's just not that type of game lmao, these people are cooked
>Nothing last week>Nothing this week>Nothing next weekNice live service, nigger
>>492017127Anon relax they only have 85% of their staff back from vacation. They need a month to settle back in and start working
>>492017127wow we just had a HUGE content update you ingrateful chud
>live service game>service is neither live nor is it servicing the game
I know Mediterraneans that have a better work ethic than Arrowblyat
>>491993201>ricochets off enemy>teleports behind younothing personnel kid
>>492017127Erm, it hasn't been 60 days yet you incel chud! I know we said "within" 60 days, but it still hasn't been 60 days yet so let us cook. :^)
>>492017127vehicles cancelledenjoy your torcher
>>492017127>muh 2 month plan>People actually speculated they would do something within the time frame, instead of when the deadline is upI don't know what's worse, the possibility that they had didn't have the critical fixes on at least the back burner, in which they had full confidence in their game Or the idea that they're going to release some big game changing patch in 2 months, have it be untested, have it fail as a result, and AH looks badder for fucking up its 2 month turn -the-game-around promise, in which case they haven't learned a fucking thing, not about the testing, nor their team's ability to fix problems
>>492017782>release some big game changing patch in 2 months, have it be untestedthis is exactly whats going to happen
60 days? it hasnt even been 60 weekswhy are you demanding before the 60 months are up?
>>491994927most of those people are, again, working on other projects now. they probably don't have any real desire to come back to arrowhead/hd2 any more than they do any other game they work on. maybe some did really enjoy that particular job and think back fondly on it, but i'm sure others just treated it like another game dev job
>>492016791>Shit that worksWhich is a progressively smaller list because they love murdering utility as much as they do performance
>>491994927Game is built on a dead shitty engine. They're already working on something else, either Unreal or their own engine
Napalm airstrike decent these days? Last time I used it it just tickled everything.
>>492012950A shame two of them had to use images from Root as their avatar. But even worse that of the ones they chose, it was both vagabonds, because the vagabond is the nigger of the factions. Even worse because the Arbiter is king nigger of the vagabonds with normal infamy mechanics.
>>492017782All Arrowhead wants at this point is a way to stop working on the game. 60 day gambit is only a means to stall, wear out the complainers, and formulate official statements about how they had so many plans for the game, honest, and they were really looking forward to working on them, but fate is a crucial mistress yada yada so tl;dr no illuminates stop asking us for shit k bye
>>492017782>People actually speculated they would do something within the time frame, instead of when the deadline is upThis is what gets me. Its like nobody has dealt with businesses before. If they say anything like "within x weeks", then it will always be done in at least that amount of time. Only exceptions are when they're seriously hurting for money.
>>492018545>60 day gambit is only a means to stall, wear out the complainersjudging by the state of the subreddit, I believe this is dead-on
>No acid planet
>>492018706They barely browse the actual sub anymore. They respond on the low sodium one instead where people arent mean to themPilstedt also complained about people being mean in the QnA he did on trooncord and how it affects them.Personally I just think theres a bunch of rotten apples in the team at all levels that they cant and wont get rid of despite their incompetence because of job security. The flamethrower visual nerf getting through on its own is proof enough
>already 2 weeks since they announced 60 day plan>not a single buffdoomposters have unequivocally won
Democracy Officers help me please, I recently was fighting for freedom via my PS5 when a fellow diver called in an orbital napalm strike. I cannot choose this in my stratagems. Also when drop ships would come in , somehow they'd be shot down in rapid succession. I enable cross play in my FREEDOM settings. What GLORIOUS PATRIOTISM did I witness? The missions were complete but will we be prosecuted for black market stratagems?
>>492018545They could roll back the game to a launch state, because at least that didn't have consistent crashes
>>492018864lmao I just realized they announced the new acid mechanic in EoF and it's nowhere to be tested, bravo Sweden
>>492018898>low sodium onelink this fucking hugbox, i gotta see this
>Matar bay failingYou don't want to fight on Mastia anyway. It game breaking lag
>>492018136Also adding enemies that further require you to specialize into a few weapons or strategems. All your anti-tank on cooldown? Mr. Impaler thanks you for the free kill. Now you're packing a Commando instead of your favorite support weapon so you don't get caught in a no-win situation again. 1 month later, devs see people are dropping many support weapons in favor of Commando. In response, they nerf Commando.
>>492019173https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumHellDivers/Its just the usual sub but with all negative posts and responses deleted.
>>492019041iirc they had at least one up on each front for a little bit after EoF still, but the recent war effort shit has them locked out>>492019512thanks. wow, it's actually called low sodium helldivers. how could this not be a hive of idiocy
>>492019041bro, you missed the piss bugs that were open on a defense planet for a whopping 12 hours a day or two ago?just go play on choohe, choohe, or aesir pass in the meantime bro>>492019624nope never had it on bots go back to choohe
>>492019756i genuinely forget because:1) they had it up for such a short time2) i was swapping back and forth and every planet feels the fucking SAME
>>4920157873/4
>>492019512>2nd post claiming the purifier is better than the scorcherHow delusional can you be holy shit
>>492019332This is so bizarre to meIt's not like there's a lot of team work situations in this game other than covering fire and>Huddle up in a totally spontaneous way that never happens so you can crew your reloadsIt's just a bad team game too
>>492015787full :3c
>>492012542>Game has been crash central since last week's patch, loading screen stall is backWhoever they had on their vacation skeleton crew needs to be fired, I don't know how this game keeps turning into a burning train wreck every time it gets a tiny patch that they clearly delegater to the worst developers on the staff.
>>492019173>>492019512There's actually two hugbox subs, LowSodiumHelldivers and Helldivers2The difference is that Helldivers2 can't stop bitching about people criticising the game and devs
>>492020197>bad team game This.I try to keep some space from the team to prevent a gagglefuck situation. Standing 5 meters next to someone is danger territory.At the same time, going too far exposes you to eagles, so in that case I might go further away.
>>492015787crashedmy COCK into Joel's mom
>>492021019>worst developers on the stafftheyre all the worst developers. without exaggeration i think arrowhead is the most incompetent double/triple A developer ive ever seen. others are more greedy or malicious but holy fuck arrowhead does nothing at all and then fucks something up and goes on vacation again. at least fat shark abandons their games while theyre in a decent balance state without crashing all the time
Who the fuck takes incendiary to bots. Hope you enjoyed my rifle butt to your face after igniting me twice on extract.
>>492020197I wouldn't say it's a bad team game. I'd say it's a good team game that's sabotaged itself into 4-man solo play. Breaches/drops spawn per-player, so staying together keeps a constant stream of bullshit coming in every few seconds. Densely spawned armored enemies force you to bring a fuckload of AT, so one player is all you need to clear most objectives which require AT. Those combined make splitting up a massively more effective strategy. Fix that, and staying together becomes much more viable.
>>492021234amazing, sometimes i wish i could live like them
>>492021612mr you were replaced by a furry
>>492021019I suspect all the actually capable devs moved on to new projects while the B team (B stands for bottom of the barrel) got saddled with "maintaining" Heckdump 2.
>>492019512Damn, I didn't think Alexus was posting there
>>492021612don't worry we won
>>492022339I'm firebombing sweden
>>492004812>>492006524Krekkov used to be a /vg/ regular.He's a fat asian that looks like the rape janny and draws gore and rape porn.Unironically based tbqh.
>>492022676gore AND rape? I kneel
furries have to be physically removed
>>492016791>feeling called out >by a post you failed to understand.I don't know which part is more pathetic.
>>492021759>tfw just remembered that PS showcase of EoF where they were playing on 5 with flame weapons against bots>they were magdumping their primaries into a Hulk's face
>>492012950It's amazing that these people still manage to be more useful than the CM team.
>>492023865That's not a high bar, the CM team was satirical, rude, and condescending
>>492023865...said nobody ever
I feel like there should be rules that prevent a dev from working on a game they're not playing at the highest level. Because being extremely good comes automatically with developing the game. The nips that developed Mario Kart 64 can still perform lap times very close to world records, and that's nothing special, it's the norm, they had to play it a fuckton in order to ensure quality. Yes obviously if you can't solo d10s rivalling autistic speedrunners while scratching your balls you are not fit to decide what the game should and shouldn't pertain to.
>>492021759Bots are not immune to fire.It's just that when things fire back you need them dead fast instead of relying on the ammo efficiency brought on by each pellet delivering a 200 damage DoT.Also, bot reward headshots to a ridiculous amount, so taking a weapon that cannot be aimed is the real problem here.
>>492021759>Who the fuck takes incendiary to botsThe devs. You know, the people that yell "skill issue" and "git gud" when they nerf your crutches.
>>492023982The CM team has unfortunately never been any of those things. They have always acted as if whiners are completely in the right, have never had a good working relationship with the developers and seem to be working 20 hours per week if that.That said, this part is vexing:>I don't know, I wasn't toldThen fucking ask. It's your job to communicate.
>>492023285I read the replies. He continued using the same rhetoric the devs use of "just team play you don't need to do everything you're supposed to be weak" while constantly shit talking people for only using the most effective weapons and asking for more weapons to be similarly effective. Dude had big diff 5 energy.
Hellbros? Our response?!
>>492024692slophammer games have never been good, the only exception is the first dawn of war
>>492024692SM2 will decapitate this rotting corpse of a game
Let. Them. Cook.*Takes giant diarrhea dump on your plate.*There, now eat up.
>>492024692>champion packyeeep, they're gonna sell new classes bundled with new weapons, all so you can use them on a grand total of less than 10 PvE missionsoh, and this means there will be people using guns and abilities you don't have access to in PvP because you didn't pay, lmao
>>492024692>p2w pvplmao, pass
>>492024692That this will be a flop as well.
>>492024496Hi Spitz
>>492024516your post has big reddit energy
>>492025462We're supposed to love Spitz now, keep up with the narrative.
>>492025020the champion pack is more cosmetics
God it’s so depressing. I had such high hopes for this game, shame it was made by a Swedish company
Bros.. how do you reply to "was a pleasure"?
>>492025779kys redditor
>>492026015And a happy suicide to you too friend!
>>492025020>>492025302purely cosmetics but keep coping swedoid bitch boi
Soooo where tf is this patch ?
>>492024692space marines are the weakest link of that IP, only nerds with physique issues want to play eight foot tall GMO supermenlet me know when they make a 40k game where we get to massacre aliens as Cadian guard or Kriegers
>>492026138next week
>>492026149That's smalltime.Give me the Lictor asymmetrical pvp-game already.
>>492026149blueberry spess mehreens are the face of 40k for a reason, you dumb guardfags will never get your game
>>492025481Takes one to know one eh ?>>492024692I'm never buying anything from blizzard ever again
>>492025672>>492026094so then what content is this game getting then?>some new maps>1 new weapon>that's their plan for an entire year and a half
Developers don’t give a shit about keeping this game alive. We all should just accept that and move on. No point in being emotionally invested in this dumpster fire anymore.
JUST TWO MORE MONTHSTRUST ZE PLAN
>>492026347>blueberry spess mehreens are the face of 40kmaybe if you're a fucking nerd, rest of us prefer creative, relatable, and plausible archetypes>muh greco-roman space meritocracy that became utopian through discipline and just being a ladturbocringe lmao
>>492026149Space marines are the strongest link of the 40k IP. It is so strong infact that GW makes a marine kit for every other kit they make because it sells so fucking well.I dont like the marines much compared to the nids, necrons, guard and inquisition/daemonhunters but its retarded to argue that marines arent both the cashcows and the face of the entire IP
>>492026391>so then what content is this game getting then?do you know where you are?. as long as they actually deliver its going to be leagues beyond anything the swede has done with the absolute shit show that has been helldiversdont get ne wrong i love helldivers and i dont trust GW to not fuck up a good thing but that road map gives me far more hope than the false promises from AH
I dont give a fuck about your "meta". I'm here with spear backpack to teamreload you. I'll also grab HMG to fuck devs, just because ratatata makes brain juices go brrrrr. I'm having fun. Are (you)?
>>492027247I literally haven't played since the bot moon got locked
>>492024692>don't care about pvp>horde mode not until late 2025My hopes were already so low you could trip on it but this isn't looking good.
haha this game is just like nam like, i hecking love mavelovon creek am i right fellow helldivers?
>>492019332Lol shitter. Impalers are ez without AT, finding them is the real struggle.
>>492026149>Cadian guardmore like CACAdia!
>>492027104>i love helldivers and i dont trust GWSure, sure.
>>492026856Anon, he's just your run-of-the-mill contrarian. Anyone with brains realizes the most generic part of a franchise is the most popular due to being, well, most generic. This anon is simply too far off the deep end. Imagine saying "yeah Master Chief (the blank slate supersoldier) is the weakest part of Halo" or "yeah Samus (the blank slate supersoldier) is the weakest part of metroid".
>>492026856I accept that they're the most popular but I maintain that they're also the dumbest aspect of their universe. Weakest link. Regular-ass human characters have way more value in sci-fi/sci-fantasy settings. Characters that have been turned into mega-capable demigods by one way or thd other lose so many ways to be intriguing within the crazy scenarios that the setting got built for. tl;dr supermen boring
>>492028279>Hmmmm in this fictional universe I want to beee.. Yes. A completely ordinary human.Ever considered that your opinion is retarded?
>>492027581So true hellsister, here're some lego you can goon off to. No need to thank me, I know it's exactly what you like.See ya'll on the nam creeka, cheerio.
>>492024692Shall be shilling it in hope it steals every award from ArrowheadShan't be playing it because it looks boring
>>492028279You are afraid of men greater than you.
>>492009557Did I hear 10?
Firing non-lethal payload
>>492028279But anon, that's the fucking point. They're mega-capable demigods that are essentially regular-ass humans power level wise, getting offed left and right. How can you miss even the most blatant in-your-face basics about the world? Have you ever actually interacted with 40k, or are you just pretending to be retarded for attention?
>>492028619Spess mehreens aren't even human anymoreFrankly some regular dude fighting horros beyond his comprehension is way cooler than when some indoctrinated gen-modded transhuman freak does it. Which is why fantasy will always be cooler than 40k.
>>492028279Unironically based intellectual.Everyone calling you retarded is projecting madly.You are a chad in a valley of soijaks, you were the true Space Marine™ all along.
>>492026790>JUST WAIT X TIME>Three slight buffs after being nerfed into the ground and unusable for months (cyclic balancing to look busy)>Several nerfs (because each department has their own vision of the game)>1 gamebreaking new bug that has to be patched an hour or two later>3 new known issues>3-4 new unlisted issues>3-4 unlisted nerfs to meta loadouts (That Alexus will personally gaslight and astroturf on vg)>1 fixed known issue (that gets unfixed by the aforementioned gamebreaking bug fix because code monkies are working with different builds of the game for some reason???)>One file failed to validate and will be reacquiredYea I'm sure you'll get it right this time lolol
>>492029070Blatant samefag lol
>>492028464If you want characters other than a human beings, why not non-human beings?
>>492029185You wish.Stay an insecure manchild, while that anon actually goes somewhere in life.
>>492027247>Throws shieldgen next to you
>>492028279A wooden club is +1An enchanted wooden club is +2Spess mareens are +50s fighting +100s
>>492028464He's saying that completely ordinary humans are more impressive just by virtue of actually having to struggle and do what humans do to fight above their weightt. Not a 40kfag
>>492029543cope cage abusers unite
>>492029070thanksit's a meme at this point but one of the most appealing things about Heckdudes 2 is that divers, while badass and in opposition to the cruelties of the cosmos, are just people and can lose their lives easily by one mistake. grounded is the right word.
>>492029919
>>492027581No wonder the burgers lost. The fucking trees kept tanking airstrikes
>>492030147
>>492030324we need an agent orange stratagem, obviously
>>491994198>I think pilestedt even said he was the 'last man standing' from the original team that started work 6 years ago, or something like that.I figured it was something like this. No wonder there's such a juxtaposition between the core gameplay loop and the asinine decisions made by the devs post-launch. It's like monkeys trying to maintain a space ship.
>>492028907>>492028907They are the best of the best even before all the modifications, iirc you need to pass all kinds of extremely rigorous, dangerous trials to become one. It's a meritocracy of greatest potential fighters that are only further "enchanced"
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241757789305/76561198126520852steam://D10, well see what we wanna do.
>>492028279based
>>492031359It's not fair.
>>492031359from the people joining and leaving i get the feeling shits fucked. il reboot
>>492031808understandable. fuck sweden
who has the smallest clitty ITT?
>>492031359>>492031808> the host has left the gameCOME BACK BROWN WOMAN
>>492031359My little helldiver can't be this cute.
thanks diverbros for the missions, honestly fun for such a terrible defeat
>>492031359Might have to reverify because the faggot anticheat keeps trying to brick my PC
>>492031280I think it's a bit different for each chapter but yea as far as I know you have to already be a giganigga to catch their notice.
>>492032154End the process in task manager
>>492031359steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241759277108/76561198126520852D10, verified and ready to mingle
>>492032305I just did, it's so fucking infuriating I wish we could bypass it somehow
>>492032386>can't join at allThank you sweden.
>>492032386Okay, i think its time to take some days off work and go visit sweden. I JUST want to see AH office.
>when the horrible state of the game fails to repel the last mentally ill retards, so you have to prevent them from playing togetherNext level swiggery
>>492032386steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241759385380/76561198931226109i'll try to host
>>492032386 (me)Shits seems fucked, someone else try to host :(
>>492032386the HOST has left his SHIT in my SINK and i'm coming
>>492029543Absolutely based
>AH officeincendiary impacts are meta for that mission
>>492032782full
>>492016791>In HD2, if you run a low-tier build, you get your ass kicked six ways to Sunday.Yeah, low tier, like bringing the a Torcher and Stalwart to bots, or purifier to bugs. Problem with this hyperbolic community is they are completely unreasonable and feel that anything that isn't the absolute top performers is trash and unusable when there are plenty of builds that are viable even on D10, Hell D10 especially makes certain builds really good that are worse on lower difficulties. The AC or HMG for example are amazing on D10 bug precisely because they replaced all the weaker enemies with tougher versions of them, and those two weapons are both extremely effective against them. If you really think the only way anyone can reasonably expect to clear D10's without massive trouble is using the absolute best builds then it might be an unironic skill issue, sorry to say. And there really is a lot of that, people who only got to the difficulty they were playing at by leaning hard on the crutch of the railgun, or the incendiary breaker, or the flamethrower, and are now just pissed they got their crutch taken away and are struggling in a difficulty they never should have been in.>>492019332>All your anti-tank on cooldown? Mr. Impaler thanks you for the free kill.AT is shit at killing impalers, non AT is faster and more efficient. 5 shots from the fucking grenade launcher can kill them while it's 3 from EAT, RR, or quasar.
>>492018978The game was crashing like crazy at launch. Ironically I don't crash as often now as I did at launch, but when I do crash its in the middle of a fucking mission right after I just finished a big objective.
kino alert??
>>492033637>22 reinforcements
>>492026856>Spewing unironic contrarianismEven as bait, saying space marines are the weakest link in 40K is outright insanity.
>run tesla tower because I feel like it>nuke nursery>have the idea to call in the tesla on the nuke thing to keep bugs away from it charges>tell my teammates beforehand>bugs get raped while the nuke charges>teammate steps 1mm too close to the tesla tower>bolt of electricity hits him, arcs into the entire team>everyone except me dies and only because I was wearing the CC armorOkay
I recently partook in a great /hdg/ op on one of my top 3 kino planets, Hellmirewas especially cool because fire tornados do kill chaff right now, fun to watcha few days later Joel takes it away with galactic pissfogevery facet of my being wants to call this guy a cocksucker
>shield gen, diaper shield, Michelin man heavy armor, hmg emplacement, hmgA man too comfortable to die
>Bugfront reduced to just two contested planets because of the brap cloud.>One of them being a desert shithole biome.lmao
>runs five meters>dies of dehydration
I keep missing lobbies....
>>492033637the benis
>>492034492sad innit
>>492034916I find it comedic on Arrowhead's part more than sad. Maybe even pathetic because shit like this is just driving the nail into their dead game's coffin even further. The only way they'll keep a steady playerbase for bugtards at this point is if they had Fenrir-3 permanently available instead of all these other dogshit biomes no one wants to play on.
Did they fuck with sprint-speed?I feel so fucking slow now.
>>492034478Bonus points if you name yourself fat bastard or Cartman or something to that effect.
>>492035250Bugs are just faster now. Namely alpha commanders and red warriors run at light runspeed because every faggot kept just running away from bugs instead of fighting them, so AH made it so you literally cannot run from the bugs without killing them.
>>492034492>just two contested planetsPERFECT. let's keep it like this for the next 8 weeks- the joel specialmaybe open a defense planet that's the same biome as one of those two
>>492035250Environmental modifiers + shit like sand, mud and random bushes slowing you downAlso fuck faggots that don't take Muscle and Stamina boosters for deserts. Fucking retards
>>492035250It's your supercrack addiction. You're now doomed to pick experimental infusion + medic armor + supply pack every mission just so you can constantly inject the sprint juice.
>>492035209Meh Fenrir got soft nerfed, sure it's not a foggy shithole by default but spore chargers and nurser nests do the trick lmao. It hardly looks&feels like the moon that used to be.
I don't want to dmg control Pile, but given all this talk about Swede retard laws and Pile not being able to fire his workers, i have a feeling he's just stuck in a room filled with lawabusers. It goes something like>Pile says x needs to be done (the only thing he can actually do other than participating in said work himself)>faggots do jack shit and present halfassed garbage near deadline>the options are release or repeat the cycle>halfassed garbage gets released regardless>the moment Pile wants to "raise his voice", the police breaks in and promises funtimes for him and whole family at one of the arabian rape districts if he even considers not giving all his wokers a raise and fatigue bonuses for all the "hard work"Or something like that. But we all know this is just cope.
>>492033637
>>492036092>rape districtslmaoSwedenbut yeah you're right, it's copeArrowsad probably just don't want to keep developing heckies 2 at all, they're probably debating if half-assing an illuminates release is even worth it
Umm why has martar bay been defended successfully?
>>492037103sorry, i was drunk
>>492037103we're just that good
>>492036092contrary to our memes, it appear swedes worker protection is less than in my shithole, germanistan.If alexus indeed is only with the company for a year at that point, then Pile (the owner) could terminate his contract with a one month of notice.Or even less if they pull the neglect card.
>>492037103back to choohe with youdont worry there’s a new defense planet too (it’s choohe again)
>>492037103It just needed like 3k players, it was a very low defense level
>>492036092>>492037610He could jail these retards for terrorism at this point
>>492024692I'll be playing both because I enjoy playing video games.
>>492024692I hope it's good. I've been excited for it but at some point realized I have no idea if I will actually like the gampeplay at all, it's not like I played the 1st one.
>>492037610I don't know how much worse it is in germany, but what your pic says would still make it near impossible to get rid of someone without a costly legal battle. Best case scenario you fire rogue/malicious employees like Alexus on the grounds of neglect of duties, but if they were still pushing content (broken content) they have a hill to fight on that will cost the employer far more in legal fees to fight over. Worst case scenario you give them up to 6 months of paid vacation, which absolutely sends the wrong message to other employees, who could ask for similar deals and just sink the whole company. Socialism like this really is terrifying, it puts the most incompetent and shortminded people in positions of power.
>>492040478you can still rearrange their responsibilities and make it so they can't damage your company
>>492040478>but what your pic says would still make it near impossible to get rid of someone without a costly legal battle.are you literate?for a fresh employee its as simple as a written letter with>clear your desk, oct. 31 your ass is out herecivilized countries do that so people dont loose their payment over night, they have time to find something else of apply for neet bux. buts thats all there is to it. the document even states that you (the fired) have to attain work even if your employer refuses to assign work to your ass
the real helldive was the company we learned about along the way
>>492032940
>>491980864>lost all the players they gained back plus someLOL
loooool
>>492042036I love how people are raising support tickets and that said support is useless.
>>492042259>every bug is indented until we change our mind
>>492042259How many times are you going to post this shit? No one gives a fuck.
>>492041457The problem isnt fresh employees, its the timebombs they hired years ago that all lost their minds when they got a million followers on twitter from the game miraculously being good.Such employee laws are a protection racket that undermines success and props up failure.
>>492042434Clearly you do.
>>492042574Woah, great retort. I see this shit posted almost every thread and each time some retard agrees. Kill off the fortress and stop coping. No one takes 500kg bombs to D10 bots. Kys.
>>492042259that is such a sad answer lmao "it's intended" no, they superglued the fortresses from existing assets and afterwards couldn't find out how to make their jank dev tool enable hellbomb call-ins for non-objectives. but they thought the detector looked really cool and didn't want to remove it either. monkeys.
peak swedish optimisation (performance is still shit)
>>492042793lowering settings actually make the game run worse btw
>detector towers can see you through a sandstorm where visibility is about 10mI found out the hard way.
>>492042671No one gives a fuck about your whining.
>>492042998You don't speak English. Quiet down, Hindi.
>>492042793the boys playing swedish minecraft
>>492042948what settings do you suggest
>>492043248>you only get twenty seconds after enteringit's not enough...
>>492042793kek pretty sure this game would still stutter if you ran it on a fucking threadripper pro rig
>>492043336Presets are the best (lmao).
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241767694062/76561198070044660D10 botall these fucking planets are gay af
>>491978771Good edition
>>492027247>spoiler fuck no lmao, i uninstalled months ago and am only here for the shitposting
BTW my fps dropped
>>492043248no no NO I will NOT get another fetish from this shit site
>>492043816full
>>492043928>I don't give a shit dude, I'm a chicken walker, I'm going to oneshot you even if I miss you
>>492042036>working as intended>for these specific 2 weapons onlyFUCKYOU
>>492042569>up to six monthsalexus is rumored to be a fresh hire
>>492044750Probably another elevated discord tyrant who happened to be local
>>492044056Why contain it?
>No lobbiesDead gameDead general
>>492045978s'cool
Choohe is the one of the most unfun shitholes ever.
>>492048262That'd be Trash
>>492048463luv' me swamp.
>>492034492Silver lining. The bug front has always been way too spread out, with thousands of players on planets that don't matter driving down overall liberation.
>>492050191Bugtards see two shit planets they don't want to play on and then they log off. You're not going to force co-operation out of them even if you remove their autistic biomes they only play on. It's the exact same issue the last game had with removing a faction from the game when you beat them in a campaign.
>>492048716Only poster that likes swamps. >>492043816GG lads, fun games.
>>492048716>>492052239I tire of bursting into flames. Everything detonates it too.
>>492043816ggsless accidentals today
>>492052239>>492052306>>492048716my favorite planets are hellmire and tarsh
Don't forget to thank your brawn divers :)
>>492053594brawnsissies never top me in kills
>>492053594>Kindargardendivers
>>492053865Too busy taking out the real threats (heavies) and topping you post-game.
ACsissies... have you taken the RGpill yet?
>>492025779$1000 that was a German. I work with a lot of them. They use that expression lots "It was a pleasure". Or "Thats not possible".
Was running D10 bugs with randos yesterday.We had two AC and two spears, tons of Napalm eagle and gatling barrage and orbital barrages.It was beautiful, all bug breaches were drowned in raw democratic power. >>492054469I do luv my railgun on bots.
>>492054469>crosshair modd-doesn't count
>>492054469it feels so nicenow that it can 2 hit gunships, the only real disadvantage it's got is against factory striders and AA/artilleryeverything else feels so much more fluid than AMR/AC
>>492054469As a regular ACgod on the lookout for alt builds to use the new and improved guard dog with, I'm liking the railgun a lot. But I also really feel how hard it struggles against super heavies and gunships. Wish the fully charged unsafe shot had AC's sweet little boom to it.
>>492055143I usually take rocket pods to handle tanks when running railgun for sure.
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/274
>>492054812? you can change your crosshair color ingame
>>492055143if you have an RR/quasar/SPEAR/commando user on your team, the pen value allows you to quickly finish off anything rockets don'tone RR/EAT/quasar/commando shot and 1-3 RG shots full kills any non-strider superheavyif i wasn't greedy i'd always take commando with RG because it allows you to trivialize all non-chaff, but i like seeing big kill counts so i pack reds instead
>>492054681AC and AMR as well as LC and HMG are still vastly better against gunships because they can spam.
>>492055473Yeah, railgun is definitely weak against gunships. It's not great for vent killing as well. But cutting through the hordes of hulks, devs, and striders (armored) makes it worth it.
>>492055473AC is probably still the ultimate gunship killer, but RG in the right hands handles gunships in <5 seconds per. On par with AMR, better/worse than LC depending on placement, usually always better than HMGWait till you start using MMG against gunships.
We should do some meme lobbies some day, like "all support weapons with backpacks can only be team reloaded" type shit.
>>492055862if someone finds the link we can run randomized strat lobbies
>>492055453Consider HMG emplacement. It's pretty much as potent as the strongest reds for mass killing and thus easier to skip an extra 500kg or barrage for.
Recoilless 1 shotting tanks and cannon turrets when? Fuck the spear
>>492055719Yeah blowing out rocket chickens with the railgun feels fucking great. Oneshot nearly all the way.
>>492055862Most dumb fun I had was when a buddy was running RR and I had AC and we wore each others backpacks.
>>492056206Gay as fuck. Bet you masturbated each others cocks too faggot
>>492055862No duplicate strats or weapons, to include grenades.
>>492056330Sounds like somebody is a little bit upset they dont have a battle buddy. Whats the matter, yours got killed by some bug you couldnt kill fast enough?
>>492056024yeah i run itmy typical bot loadout is eHMG + RG + EAS + OPS (depending on team comp)it usually works out really well, only times i dont top out on kills are when the host hits SEAF SAM
>>492056707very strong loadoutOPS/EAS is my bang for buck option too, enables me to get away with much goofier shit like EMS strikes
>>492055862Most fun I've had in a lobby was when everyone brought a HMGe to bots 10.
lobby doko?
>>492057363desu it makes me feel guilty to pick the meta stuff
>wanted to play on some contested planets>they're all going to be defended by the time I finish wageslavingGuess it's back to Gacrux and Tarsh.
>>4920579584/4 dozogomenasorry
>>492058076yamero...
>>492055862>mines only and one support reach
>>492058309ALL SENTRIESONLY SENTRIESGREEN GANG A-GOGO
>>492058309>no penisthats pretty gay m8
>>492058309>mines onlybeen theredone thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZyYapMZSec
>>492058371It'd only be fun for flag missions
>>492030147big brain poster. The most fun games I've played in online shooters were ones where you actually feel like regular infantry. You COULD be the most badass Navy Seal on the front line, but will die just the same if a 155mm artillery shell fired by a fat schlub lands in his lap.For example RTCW (original) and Enemy Territory (mod) were great because players compete on actual skill because you had STANDARD issue weapons. AND like OP here, skill wouldn't get you out of the pure chaos of large scale military wars. Like real infantry too, the gun you got was the gun you got. We all THINK in a total war existential struggle between nations, your CO is going to accommodate your need to have custom Hello Kitty parts for your gun like COD-slop. Pic related. This is highly unlikely and more proven by the current situation in Ukraine which unlike the usual American safari adventure colonial policing op, is actually intensive near peer total combat.
Was the big bubble shield nerfed? This shit stays up for like 5 seconds under fire before breaking
Lets give a shout out to some random heroes you've played with. I'll start:zloyNafanyaDropped in with this dude on D10 bots and D10 bugs. Kid was fucking unreal in this game. Communicated only in slavic on the voice chat to his shitter buddy, but used the voice wheel commands like a pro. Absolutely massacred every type of enemy single handed and consistently had the most kills, least deaths on both campaigns.He really showed me the value of AC and napalm eagle airstrike on D10 bots. Didn't run from shit either. Had like 700+ kills on bugs alone.Easily the best player I've seen. Wished I was recording the game.We'll never see his likes again.
>>492060131it has 6k hp, it's so fat that can get depleted pretty quick
>>492060131nope, its always been like that.
Did they nerf regular striders? I swear you couldn't kill them in one AC shot but playing some 7 today they were going down easy
>>492060520the explosion from the front isn't enough to kill them, takes two shots, unless they accidentally reverted the explosive resist buff they got
>>492060313I can't even remember the usernames of the people I regularly play with in here and I'm not paying attention to what everyone else is doing
>>492060520Yup I think so. I was one shotting them with the AC constantly.
>>492060313i only ever play with hdg and snitches get stitches
>>492060520It feels like rocket striders go down way easier by AC too. I think they lost a little bit of explosive resistance.
>>492060692I think they did because I was just shooting their crotch and they consistently went down in one shotGod I miss regular striders
>>492061217it was pretty consistent to one tap them with high-plate AC shots, so if that's happening they definitely fucked up, or intentionally made them squishier.
>>492060313hi zloyNafanya please stop throwing laurels at yourself while pretending to be someone else, it's cringeanyone can rack up kills with the autocannon it's the everything slayer omniweapon, I once did 800+your Slavic babble is an insta-mute
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241783673967/76561198015140631Total bot death
>le connection lostI can forgive almost everything, but this shitty instability is what drives me up the wall.
>>4920630412/4 get in now
>>4920630413/4 hurry up
>>4920630414/4 we're full
>pilestedt goes on vacation>push your new update as scheduled>absolutely ruin fire (intentionally) in the same update>update drops along with a new fire based warbond>pilestedt has no clue this has happened and finds out through a random facebook post while on vacation>somehow keep your job after once again and quite literally sabotaging your game>after the team has explicity promised to not destroy the game by nerfing things without playing the game or testing their changeshow on earth does this fucking happen? Can you just join any studio using an EOS'd engine and fuck up everything because they can't replace you?
>>492063223it's tuesday afternoon
>>492067141Steam is still up. Maintenance is still 45min off.
>>492067216no no, you misunderstood. the game needs no excuse to dc
>>492067095No, that's just retarded Sverige laws and Serbian sabotage that result in total project suicide
>retarded S*rb causes ww1>retarded S*rb ruins everything at AHThey just can't help themselves can they
>>492068308just built that way>captcha ST4RT
>>492063041Done before getting cucked by steam, gg
>>492067095>how on earth does this fucking happen?How many more instances will it take before you people realize pileofshit agrees with what they're doing and is just paying lip service and running damage control along with shamkikester?
>>492063041brillant run anons we'll hit them even harder next time
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241789515720/76561198070044660d10 or something, probably bots, maybe bugs, lobby chooses
>>4920706933/4
>>492070693Wait for it....
>>492026149Darktide :^)
>>492070693is it full? then fucking say so
>>492063041legend. i heard that guy once exploded a bile titan head with just one single rocket
>>4920716032/4 nowjoin join join
>>492072303
>>492071425preferably also a 40k game not made in Sweden
>>492071603why don't you just try to join, HDD thirdie?
>>492071654It's fake. He's an actor. There were NO helldivers on Erson Sands at the listed recording period on Superpedia. Word around this sector is that the R&D department had been cutting costs with the anti tank equipment at the time and the weapons simply didn't have enough power to kill Bile Titans at the time. Hell, they still do. Ever notice how Titans sometimes just appear to be able to take upwards of five rockets to the face? How Chargers regularly shrug off AT weaponry and how the myth of "momentum" making the weapons do more damage is going around? It's all lies.Open your fucking eyes. Super Earth is lying to us. Super Earth is
>>492070693Crashed, fuck this game!
>>492075328wtfi also crashed
>>492071603Suck me, you fucking retard.
>>492070693reecrashed out
>>492075485The remaining two disconnected on my end. No crash but I did cut cut up by a heavy devastator.
STEAMED
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241793220297/let me try hosting then>>492070693
why cant i queue
>>492070693>>492075792tell me if you're coming back or not R1&D4we just had the DORK SUPREME leave the lobby at the thought of stealing the slot from either of you
The weapons in this game are ugly as fuck and the weapons in HD1 were much better looking.
>>492076732HD1 was better looking in general>consistent armor and equipment color schemeI miss it...
>>492075792filled btw
>My father liberated this planet at the cost of his own life. You had him shot as you ran away. A hero at a thousand paces.I'm sorry. I don't remember any of it.>You don't remember?!For you, the day Maintenance graced your planet was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.
>>492076652No sissy, I've had enough of this SHIT game.t. R1
>>492077350fair enough see you around chief
>>491991330pvp looks like a hero shooter, but pve looks closer to darktide
>Pile straight up admitted they lost people who knew how to fucking work with Stingray AutodeskIt's actually over. No amount of dicksucking from those discord troons will excuse this. Don't expect bugs to ever be fixed
Lobbies?
>>492080926Gone
>>492080975Dead gameDead general
>>492081112You can make your own, sissy. Some people are shy.
>>492080618I want to know the circumstances behind their departure. If they were fired then everything is over and AH are retards. If they quit, what was the reason? disagreements over pay? disgruntled work environment? or something else?
>>492081324Too fucking late retard now I'm cooking rice
>Literally ONE contested planet on the bugfront.lmao
>>492082391>We heard you complained about planet diversity so we locked every single one of them behind a fart cloud no one cares about and no one is looking forward to engage with
>>492082391I "assume" that they're planning to give us a way to penetrate the Gloom in the next MO, maybe some kind of new mission type a la TCS or Meridia.
>>492083276It better be bigger than both of those events combined otherwise it'll be a massive waste of time
>>492083276That's right. Kill 1 billion bugs to find out how to penetrate The Gloom!
>>492081635You don't have a rice cooker you can preset the time to moron? How fucking hard is it to make rice?
>>492083608NoAnd last time I left something to cook while I played this game the swiggers burned everything and left me with literal coal
>>492083715Kek, what are you making sissy? Rice and what?
These two anons will become boyfriends :3
>>492054469>using unsafe mode on bots, against hulks especiallyliterally unnecessary. the only thing it changes is turning gunships from a 3 shot safe mode kill to a 2 shot 95% charge kill, which is slower and obviously more risky than just 3 safe shots
any lobbies?
>>492083823Just rice for my dog, he can't eat dogslop anymore and now has to eat actual food. I'm just going to eat boiled eggs with mayo and leftover chicken breasts with carrot salad
Space Marine 2 looks boring as shit. Nothing scratches the helldivers itch for me.
>>492084095ah fuck thissteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241759385380/76561198931226109
>>492084384EDF!
>>492084937Full?
>>492084083berserkers newfag
>>492085354huh? retry
>1 planet on bugfront and soon to be 3 on botfront.>All the biomes available suck dick.It's like they're really trying their hardest to kill their own game.
>>492085839I'm being trolled
>>492086192steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241799954316/76561198931226109okay try again this time
>>492084103Oh, boomer dog. Fair enough.
>>4920864873/4
time to verify files
>>492083276we are gonna open up another "black hole" in the middle of the gloom to flush all of it into the voidthis will piss off the illuminates just in time for the illuminate faction update + warbond for liberty day
>>492087275yeah we got to watch you sit in purgatory as a nameless, leveless entity
>>492084384>bamham combat with zero weapon weight or impact>attempts to use hitstop to make this less obviouswhat the fuck were they thinking? 40keks, especially smurf fags are gonna eat it up either way so good on them for putting zero effort into the game beyond WAO COOL GRAFICS
>>492087403sorry we got more filler and then we start the cyberstan arc then we do more filler then we can get illuminates provided theres even a game left by then
i guess my game crashed U1 idk
>>492087927rejoin via the friendlisti put it on friends only because pubs started joining
>>492054861>disadvantage vs factory stridersNot really, it oneshots the miniguns on the chin, unlike the AC, and then you can finish it off with either your primary, secondary or whatever.
holy shit just got off work and we only have 3 playable maps???
>>492087860>cyberstan update drops>automaton enemy balanced as the playerbase asked>fuckhuge automaton fleet takes cy"berg"stan and frees cyborgs>automaton faction expanded with most cyberg enemies from HD1>monkeypaw curls>cyberg enemies are horribly balanced>worse than automatons ever were>oneshotting players even with 200 armor, weakpoints that aren't even weakpoints, ragdolling players non-stop, annoying mechanics
10 bots, I will not say when the lobby's full, fuck yousteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241802047589/76561198121770582
>>492089193Too many maps and the game would stop working, please understand.
I've never seen a paypiggie higher than level 50
>>492089635I'm a level 120 paypiggy but i'm a fire marshall at heart
>>492089193no patchno mapsno vehiclesjust bugs and crashessee you in october maybe
>>492018542Isn't that the scorched clearing guyI don't know I don't really play root.
>no update todaythese mouth breathing swiggers cant do anything right
>>492090402>>492013147Please understand chud :^)
>>492090589>"it has been this way since launch">that game has more game breaks and crashing now then it had back then"
>>492075792>game will crash if two people leave within half a second of each otheri am too tired to laugh lads
>>492090786I can say for one thing Arrowhead has taught me to research the Dev of a game now onI got burnt by Fatshark with Vermintide 2 and Darktide, not buying anything from them again within the first 3 years.When I heard Arrowhead where also Swedes I was worried but thought surely they could be different, and while they are better than Fatshit, fuck man never trust the swedes.
>>492075792dog towerdog tower
Space Marines 2 is DESTROYING us hellsisters… Everyone agrees that it looks so much better now… we lost so badly…
ggs
>game has crashed my video card multiple times>game way more intensive dont even come close to doing something this retarded
>>492091637Mein Fuhrer....A zecond Factory Ztrider....
>>492091637
>>492091387Coffee Stain is the only decent swigger studio I know of.
>>492092787
>>492091387i am legitimately never buying another swedish videogame after this and ive actually begun to hate swedes
>>492092793two trucks having sex
>>492092793skill issue
I wish Hulks turned slower, they spin so fast their back vent is hard to whittle down in a timely manner.
>>492094003sure thing, anon>monkey paw curls>due to unforeseen corelation between the turncap and hulk's AI, hulks now constantly karate chop as their main mode of movement
THE RECOILESS RIFLE SHOULDN'T BE A GLORIFIED PEASHOOTER, FUCK YOU ARROWHEAD
>>492094003sure thing, anon>monkey paw curls>due to an unforeseen correlation between the hulk turn speed and weapon ergonomics, all weapons get doubled handling weight
>>492095201AT Weapons should be wildEnemy Armour and AT Armour Pen should not be a match outside of the tankiest spotsTank Mines should be AP10 and 40000 damage 60000 durable
I had a dream about helldivers last night that a player threw a stratagem and it called down a highly accurate missile barrage I woke up to find no such thing added shit game space marine 2 in a week fuckers
>>492094292>>492095441Cease your Finger based shenanigans
>>492095492top fucking jejat first I figured the game just showed me you as the cause of my death because lolswedecodeon my screen I was right by the left gatepost when you got me
Nigger foggy faggot shitholes. Next time I see someone selecting one I'm leaving
Rate my loadout for bots. I find it fun to use.>Engineer or Fortified armor>Plasma punisher clears chaf and striders, can stagger lock devs and berserkers>Senator (for quiet takedowns) but you can use grenade launcher>Stuns for Hulks>HMG takes out just about everything>Eagle airstrike for clearing patrols and camps>OPS for tanks, walking barrage if you want base clearing>shield backpack to be able to take out devs before you get ragdolledIf you use the HMG on the lowest rpm you can manage your ammo to not need ammo backpack.
>>492096262wow how kinoi love not being able to see anything
>>49209682890 seconds of thick fog every 10 minutes > heavy fog at all timesuntil the moon's back, coochie is still the best bot planet
>>492096397>If you use the HMG on the lowest rpm you can manage your ammo to not need ammo backpack.borderline griefing and relies too much on POI rng
>>492097161>POI rngjust stick with your team and call in resupplies whenever they're up and you're within 100m of each otherthis same principle makes rg completely viable without a backpack
>>492096941Just got done doing this exact shit. Me in a mech guiding our fireteam through a fucking devastator infested sandstorm in the dead of night. Like some shit from a movie
>>492097018Yes >>4915976802/4:^)
>>492095492optimistic of you to assume that wouldn't happen
>>492097385That must have been pretty cool with the headlights on those mechs.Orbital flare stratagem when?
>>492097756>Orbital flare stratagem when?unironically already in the game but the retards have no idea how to limit them to night time operations
>So what does this stratagem do>Well it helps players see bett->Rejected
>>492097910>game has API which displays relative timescale on missions as well as the duration of the mission>somehow devs can't use this to implement flares on missions between certain hours (nor can they just blanket add them because?)AH is gonna kill me, man
>>492097910My understanding is that they have linked the Flare to the Solar Locked Modifier
>>492033637I am inevitable
>>492098295>Solar Locked Modifiernever seen itwhat's it about?
Open your lobbies
>>492098597Yeah it's not released yet and maybe wont beit probably being used to describe planets that do not spin and are molten on one side and total perfect dark on the otherthe flare is datamined as a mission strat with a 25 duration and a30 second cd
>>492098597I don't think any planet actually has it yet but what he means is tidally locked so one side is always light and one side is always dark. So in theory a mission on the night side would be pitch black the entire time instead of the weird light/dark/dim cycles we have right now.
>>492098901>>492098854that's what I assumed, than q>>492098295this is also plausible
>free-placement hellbomb stratagem>210 second cooldown>independent of mission strat hellbomb cd>functions exactly like a regular hellbombwould you take it
>>492024692It needs ragdolling and physic. Then HD2 will die instantly.
>>492097530Impact is dealing too much damage in this patch.
>>492099594No I will just take a 5th Strat Spot thanks
>>492099851it's not the impact itself, it's the fact the rocket strider rockets are still overtuned with way too high force impulsethat shit gives you so much momentum you could be at the edge of its aoe and still get thrown 20 meters to your death
>>492100027>400/400 with 100 forcebro holy shitdon't divers only have 90hp?
>>492099851Look at how fast he got thrown. I'd expect it to kill with an impulse like that. Gets pushed about as fast as I do in this webm and this was back when the HMG still had 1200 RPM
>>492100220yep, literally 0 reason for such massive overkill except>wow, chickens can instakill gens now>wow, chickens can instakill eHMG now>wow, chickens can instakill exosuits now>wow, chickens can 2hk shield relay nowit's literally the spam enemy that does untelegraphed instakill attacks which blast you from behind walls
>ragdolls you through three meters of stonepshhhnothin personnel, humie
>Yeah we're autistic to the point of driving away all our customers due to our outright refusal to buff weapons that need it because our magazine models couldn't possibly fit so many rounds in a magazine and our fictional calibers can't be too powerful>WAO look at these epic ragdolls and how the divers get launched by any and every explosion even though their innards would be liquified after such powerful shockwaves>this is just EPIC to the max XD
>>491978771>Haven't played Helldivers in a day>Hop on>Only planet available is the planet with the Strategem blocking treesGo fuck yourself
>ENTERs>ruins your whole game by replacing a basic enemy with instakill super beefy gods that are extremely fast and everywhere and can ragdolls you back into 40 heavy devastators from anywhere on the map
>>492101086>Thrown 100 metres into a wall at mach 1.4, shot 20 times by starship cannons, vivicected by a chainsaw>Fine because my Armour has a 50/50 flip to simply not die lol
>>492101390command bunker turrets ruin my good time far more than these retards
new chickens are good design because they forced ACniggers to use different supports or actually learn how to aim and not crutch on its insane damage and aoe stuns
>>492101451those are criminal>up to eight or so per fortress>untelegraphed attacks>nigh pin-point accurate>will ragdoll you>if not straight up OHK you>fucking grey
Factory Striders started shooting 4 or even more consecutive lasers
>>492101845soon theyll be like the chinese recoilless rifle users
>>492101451Nothing wrong with oneshotting you from 300m away and ragdolling you if they miss you and having enough firerate to follow up on the ragdoll to oneshot you and also having turn rate and tracking good enough to kill you even if you are spriting!Learn to play!
>>492101451>Turn a corner>Notice a mega cannon a millisecond too late>"A-">dedThe way they manage to kill you immediately after you notice them is unreal.
>>492101832oh yeah and >need armor pen 4 to deal with them>the glowing bit is not a weakspot
Is anyone playing or are you just screaming into the void?
>>492101832>>492101986>>492102149>lose 10 reinforcements clearing mega fortress>lose one more the rest of the mapevery fucking time
>>492101986You guys will complain about anything holy shit.>>492101773This man is speaking the truth. All AC players should be eternally cuckolded by big AMR chads and SPEAR daddy’s.
>>492102149What's worse is combing through a nigh-fortress after clearing it out to find the high value sample and finding a still alive turret aiming outwards. Then it turns to you.
>>492025779yuh
>>492102619Complaining is fun. I haven't actually seen anyone post about nerfing the hyper beams, it's more a "get a load of this shit" type of energy. I kind of hope they stay the way they are so we can bitch and moan.
>>492103093because asking for nerfs of anything at all in pve game is pussy auranow fixes on the other hand...
Now that is a BIG Piss Cloud
>>492103597thanks
>>492103093i want them to at least have shot deviation or telegraph when they're going to shoot, like the bigger turrets. if they're still one or two shots and maintain the knockdown that's the least they could do, instead of being pinpoint accurate nearly hitscan unpredictable annoyancesor hell, just paint the things red and give them a glowy light or something so they actually stand out instead of being nearly invisible most of the time.
>>492104358fuck that just make them noticeable nothing like pushing the dark horizon of an automaton fortress and a perfectly blended in turret decides its my time
>>492101451>Misses its shot, but the splash damage knocks you over on the ground, and because it has a fast enough fire rate its follow up shot can shoot you while you're animation locked into standing up (which also has zero I-frames while you're stuck in that animation) basically guaranteeing your death.Every new day I wonder what swedish chucklefuck at Arrowhead thought it would be funny to make it so standing up was the first thing your dumbass character does when falling over and then also making it so you have no I-frames while you're stuck in that stunlock of an animation.
>>492104586if they're so good at spotting divers give them small radars on topor a fast spinning IR ball sensor that reflects lighthell, give them a glowing shtora-lookalike or a straight up IR reflectorthey're going with soviet/russian socialist nonsense aesthetics for bots anyway - the barrage tank is a buratino and the rocket strider has malyutkas on sidesanything would be an improvement from the current state
wait the piss cloud got bigger? It's only 2 steps from (rest in peace muh swigga) Meridia.
>>492104586yeah, all i really need is for them to actually telegraph their shit the same way everything else does or be visible
>>492105193They do though. When they blow your friend's brains out, that's the telegraph.
>>492105021>Piss cloud reaches Meridia>Acts like a giant funnel>Illuminite come out SEETHING they have been used as a toilet via the wormhole
>>492105503But actually.
>level 7 Super Destroyer upgrade that gives you a fifth stratagem slotI can only dream, but that would be pretty nice.
>>492106832Sorry! We investigated having more than 4 strats (perhaps too many already!), and we found that, including the MAJOR balance issues these powerful tools create... The poor engine just can't handle any more than 4 :(!!! In the future, we'll have to resolve the technical debt somehow, perhaps by lowering strat count, but for the moment, we're looking in to things!
>>492004812>Devs swindled 2 mags from the incen gun which was an unnecessary attempt to address a perceived problem>"Dude just bring an ammo pack with you"No retard, that's not how this works. Also what's he talking about "META WEAPON BEST BUILD 2024 1000 KILLS" yt video? Those don't exist because the Dev's keep nerfing weapons or "fixing bugs" so whatever's the new "meta" ends up becoming outdated within a month
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241816023984/76561198010165757d10, undecided on front so we'll decide in lobby
>>4921089742/4
>>492108974full
>>492101773AC can oneshot rocket chickens nowBack to B tier aka small mag humiliation room with you
chinabro... i took it too far... gomenosai...
>>492111993game crashedggs
>>492101773>still repeating this bullshitAC 2 or 3 taps in the hip but you’d know that if you weren’t literally too retarded to even use the AC without fucking up
>>4921089743/4>>492112078join back if you can
>>492112409I'm taking a break to walk my dog, maybe later
>>492112801gotcha>>4921089743/4, will wait ~10 for a 4th then go after
>>492111862>AC can oneshot rocket chickens nowHuh? When, how?
Sneeddiver status?
REMINDER THAT SINCE THE UPDATE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO PLAY ON A SINGLE ACID RAID PLANET FOR THE ARMOR DECREASE BUFF
>>492114689wrongwe've been allowed to play on a single one a few days agofor likesix hours or so:^)
You all haven’t felt true power until you plowed through a bug map with your boys all using nothing but Arc Throwers. Ripped all the heavies apart in under 3 seconds and generally steamrolled everything in our path. It was glorious.
>>492114158direct hit on a rocket pod, easy enough to dootherwise it's a two tap in the crotch/joint region but I seem to get oneshots there sometimes now too
I am sad, that the arc armor doesn't evwn remotely look like this.
>>492114689Thank god. I dont want to go to piss planets.
>>492114689there was one open the day the patch dropped
>>492114848Hitting the rockets on the side seems widely inconsistent from my experience. Sometimes they explode an kill the chicken and other times the rockets just break off. And i cant tell if it has some weird hitbox or if its some bug.
>>492116206if you deplete the rack's health before missile, it just breaks off without exploding
>>492116206you have to specifically shoot one of the missiles.
Imagine if the bots could also run of of ammo
>>492116275>>492116416Do they need both missiles on one side or is a single missle enough for a one hit?
>>492116669one is usually enough, the explosion usually deals around ~80% of the damage needed for a kill by itself
>>492116206what pisses me off is that rocket chickens don't have the same *clank* noise for feedback when you kill them, they just freeze for a second then slowly fall over
>>492116669a single missile kills them in my experience of shooting them off with the sickle
>>492116893Yeah that's definitely a bug.
>13k players>dc issuesThey really are cost-saving. What is their target number of players? 300?
>>492116893They realy are chickens. I had times where I shoot of the head with a railgun and they keep walking around.
>>492117331the head itself for some reason has less HP than the main pool, so you can pop it and the stupid fuckers will still be alive.
>>492117453So that's why that fucking happens. No wonder.
>>492117453where are you finding the stats for the rocket chicken?
>>492117946the armor box doesn't have a listed HP value, but it clearly has lower HP than the main HP pool, i've pretty reliably popped the box with the AMR and still needed to shoot the neck stub to kill them. it doesn't happen with the AC for whatever reason though, chalk it up to them being buggy bullshit just like the barrager.https://helldivers.io/Enemies
>>492117453Than why does it kill them 99% of the time. I just assumed the few times they kept walking was becouse they were bugged.
>>492118460>the armor box doesn't have a listed HP valueSo the "main" is the big armoured box, and that 500 HP listed under the name isn't the HP of the "main" hit zone?
>>492108974ggs fun games
damn, I love randies. Just had a CRAZY level 40 in our game as a pick-up 4th. Guy was literally bouncing off the walls, no cheats, all skill. Mines, thermite, no AT whatsoever and raw-dogging d10 solo. Maybe reddit was right after all. >pic related
I forgot what's the name of the mega base for bots.Mega Fortress?
>>492119557Fortress for bots Mega Nest for bugs.
>>492119676Just Fortress or Mega Fortress?
I do not understand why the barrager has no heat sink weak point you're basically forced to spam explosions at it. unfun to kill.
>>492119771Just Fortress.
>>492119825exists to give a use to heavy AT weapons on the bot front
>>492119870Thanks anon.
>>492119557It is called "Takeshis castle"
Since Escalation of Freedom, the game has been a mess to play regularly.I won't even mention the balance nerfs and buffs or the older bugs that haven't been addressed yet, I'll just stick to listing everything added by the patch and that was mentioned or showed in the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQl2BmhSCsA) that simply doesn't work in D10:>Impalers can oneshot you randomly, can throw you into orbit when flinched or killed, the tentacles hitboxes are desynced and ragdoll you even when missing (very noticeable with heavy armor), sometimes they turn sticky, pick you up and launch you somewhere, the rate at which tentacles respawn after being damaged is also too fast and makes shooting tentacles a pointless waste of ammo>Spore Chargers oneshotting light armored helldivers in a very big AoE around them is a garbage mechanic for an enemy that can only be seen when nearby it>Barrager Tank cannot be killed or destroyed, only disabled, which makes it extremely annoying because it will keep being a oneshot and ragdolling hazard until it despawns or you destroy the missiles launcher and you need at least Armor Pen 6 to do that>D10 doesn't feel like an increase of enemies, all that's increased is the rate at which heavy and elite enemies spawn >Carrying Larvis sometimes breaks bug breaches and prevents them from spawning nearby or at all>Rocket Striders simply deal too much damage and ragdoll you too far for a basic enemy that requires at least Armor Pen 3 to be killed or disabled, and they are everywhere. I wouldn't mind if it weren't for the fact that they can kill walking and firing rockets even after the pilot's cabin has been completely destroyed>Laser turrets in bot Fortresses instant ragdoll comboing you or oneshotting while also requiring AP4-6 to kill because le ebin dark souls in space artificial difficulty, harrassing you with extreme precision from 200+ metres away and being able to lead shotsThat is all.
>>492121464This is all trueI'm still having fun
>>492117453>so you can pop it and the stupid fuckers will still be alive.when you mean pop it do you mean like completely remove it? not just that half crumpled state but entirely gone? sounds like network host desync if so
>orbital napalm strike shown a month ago>still not released because it would be too strong and fun in its current state
>>492122910they need 60 days chud
>>492123014>come back>big patch that is actually good drops>swiggers "work" for like a month>winter vacations time>patch that reverts and nerfs all the buffs and improvements made by piles december 15 to repel all the winter normies
>>492121464>>Barrager Tank cannot be killed or destroyed, only disabledEagle 110's or OPS seem to kill them easily enough. Outright kills, big explosion and everything, turret gone, the works. What the problem is is the turret and hull are completley separately entities and aren't properly linked like with the other tank types, so it doesn't get destroyed when the hull is destroyed.
>>492123624>outright kills>mentions disablingJust because the turret is gone, it doesn't mean the tank can't run around and run you off cover.The bottom part can only be disabled and even if you destroy both parts, it won't despawn until it decides to.Destroy both parts doesn't even accellerate the despawning, which means it's still alive.
>join hd2 discord to finally check it out in person now that everyone left and it's not full anymore>actually filled with furries, troons and fat people>leavelmao wtf, how did things end up like this
>>492124053When the turret disappears the turret is destroyedWhen the rear hull breaks open and the tnak stops moving and shooting the hull gun the hull is destroyedNormally, for annihilator and shredder tanks killing one kills the otherThe barrager isn't linked properly so killing one doesn't kill the other like it should, but if you kill both the tank is fucking dead>even if you destroy both parts, it won't despawn until it decides to.If it really is still alive it shouldn't ever despawn because live entities don't despawn unless there aren't any players around anymore. The fact that it is despawning in front of your eyes can only mean that it really is dead.
>>492125384It's the audience the swede wished to cultivate.
>>492124053>The bottom part can only be disabledBut there are plenty of videos of "disabling" the bottom part and having the turret remain alive, but then the live turret just poofs out of existence right in front of the players eyes when the "disabled" hull get culled. The only time live enemies get culled is when everyone nearby dies or leaves. The rear hull doesn't even have its own health pool. It bleeds 100% of all damage taken straight to the main HP. Blowing open the rear of the hull and "disabling" the hull IS killing the hull because they share the same HP pool.
>>492125384I don’t even know how you stuck around long enough to investigate all this.
>>492112801getting it nice and strong for when you throw it in your stew one day
>>492119904They already have enough use cases in blowing out bases and and AP5 shit like factory strider turrets if you ask me. If they don't ricochet in your balls that is.
>>492128826Stop bullying the DEI diver.
AMRsissies, another Youtuber put our beloved AMR in C tier, citing very small mag capacity, versatility problems, and insufficient durable damage. Our response?
>stun charger>it turns aroundholy fuck m8
>>492130019He’s a shitter AMR is clearly S tier along with AC except the former is aesthetic and the latter is for sissies
>>492130125hear me out: karate chopping chargers
>>492125384I joined it early on solely to get update info and delays because they dont post it fucking anywhere else.Yes its fully of mentally ill troons and furries, like all discords end up being when they are made public and arent just a group of friends shitposting.Dont worry the furries are handling all the customer feedback too :)
>>492130019>watching e-celebsIt is C-tier, it's dogshit against bugs and you aren't killing anything bigger than a Hulk without a lot of luck or teammates to distract. Ultimately its only saving grace is its ability to headcap Devastators before they get close enough to do serious damage.If your weapon is only usable against half the factions in the game, it's not getting anything higher than a B from me. And even then, with it being useless at close range, that's a further deduction from me. I'd still probably put it higher than shit like the Railgun, Airburst, or Stalwart though.
>>492130019My response is that he's an awp buyer in Counterstrike
>>492130019AMR is really fun on planets that aren't foggy shitholes, I don't care what some youtube tranny says
60 MORE MONTHS
genuinely the most mismanaged pile of gold I've ever seenthat update from Piles talking about low office morale had me seething >We ignore all community feedback, keep nerfing all the weapons, and dialed the ragdolling up to 11 why is this community so toxic umu;;
>>492130019We kick him out of his wheelchair becouse he must be a borderline vegtable if he puts AMR in c-tier.
>>492130019>1 mag per ammo boxBros......
>>492130829>It's dogshit against bugsBait is supposed to be believable
>>492132398How many shots to pop charger ass?
>>492132398The AMR is an anti armor weapon that is dogfarts against Chargers, Titans and undeployed dildo dispencers.It's fun to use against anything else, but those 3 being your common friend on high bugs makes the AMR excessively situational
>>49213187945 days and they'll fix everything, trust The Plan™
>Esker and Pandion are on the menuToo bad the defenses are piss easy and they'll be liberated in like twelve hours apiece.
>>492132398Any bugs that the AMR can kill in one shot, the DCS can do it in one or two while also leaving your support slot open for a real weapon.
>>492130829>Ultimately its only saving grace is its ability to headcap DevastatorsB-but Diligence CS already does that with a more than twice as big mag, less sway, and less recoil than AMR...
Comfy D8 bot loadout:BlitzerMech (the one with missiles)SpearHMG EmplacementTesla TowerOnly really need to use the mech when advancing objectives or when in a pinch. Use emplacement and tesla tower for crowd control, use spear before rockets.
>>492137394>botMeant bugs. Bots are never comfy.
>>492137121Think he ment Hulks. That's something cs can't.>>492137394>blitzer/mech/tesla>on botsAre you the cute little dude on the left >>492053594 ?
>>492137394Tesla tower gets such a bad rap. It's actually a great stratagem for area control especially with how it can go through armoured enemies and hit chaff behind them. So many retards just run directly into it and cause it to chain through your entire team, making those same shitters believe it's a bad choice.
>>492137682It's fun, but the lack of range and absolute fargility makes it a real pain in the ass to use proper.Rocket defence and some map layouts allow for solid "tower defence" gameplay with it, but otherwise it's a prolonged destructable mine dispencer.
I like the Tesla towerI want to deploy one right next to Alexus and flick it on while he's dreaming of the 6-shot autocannon mag
>>492130019ACfags could never >>492054469AC is an A- against bots and I'm being generous, there are much better picks
>>492137682Well placed tesla easily clears 2-3 bug patrols on its own, very useful for rear guard or areas you don't have good visibility. Throwing them behind a breach is a good way to keep team mates alive while luring bugs and heavies away from you. Requires good use of stun nades to prevent chargers immediately destroying it.
>>492138035Every sentry has that same problem with chargers. I don't think there's a single one with any amount of upgrades that can stop or survive a charger's charge.
>>492137997railgunbro pleaseI appreciate you and like to pick RG myself on occasion but you have shit durable damageanything bigger than a hulk and you have to cower while Eagle-chan, your destroyer, or your mates take care of itmeanwhile autocannon can standoff against factory striders and blow out annihilator sinks in three hits
>>492138178I feel like chargers are especially drawn to tesla towers for no damn reason. Same with bile titans.
Tesla tower should have same armor pen has arc thrower, but instead it's on par with blitzer.
>>492138178AC shreds chargers face first.AC/Rocket placed on any elevation gets massive advantage over tesla in a similar dropspace due to range and better rof. Tesla only advantage is zapping multiple warriors in one strike.
>>492138243RG is just better than AC against bots I don't make the rules, this has been the case for ages>you have to use eagles to take out slow, immobile threats!how is this a downside? emptying the AC into health sponges is not fun gameplay, skillshotting with the RG is fun gameplay which is why it's more fun and ultimately more effective. if you're getting caught out with the RG and not having tools up to deal with big lads you're just bad, and the AC might be a multitool that can deal with everything slowly but I'd rather use the right tool for the job quickly. If you use the AC regularly and find the AC not only more effective but more fun to use then you're just not good at throwing pokeballs or something
>>492130019They're the same weapon (on bots)
new thread before we perish
>>492138818let it die
>>492138679>emptying the AC into health sponges is not fun gameplay>literally needs to aim for the same weakspots RG needs to fight heavy shit>except better against fragile targets due to explosive splash as well as the extra heavy shit that will need multiple shots regardless of weaponThe only real advantage RG has is a free backpack slot for your jumppack.
>>492138905i need to post my eagle ritualpost for the last time before i drop this game for space marine
sub 5k low b end of monthpeople got really disapointed by the lack of patch yesterday
>>492138927>extra heavy shit that will need multiple shots regardless of weaponRG kills every enemy in one shot up to tanks. And you aren't using the AC against tanks, who gives a fuck. I drop eagle airstrike on those slow moving fucks, same for factory stridersI just don't like bothering with factory striders in direct engagements, if you go underneath to try and kill them to the belly you get teammates wasting you with red stratagems and it takes forever to kill them even if you hit every shot on the eye. Best to throw pokeballs n walk away. Gunship might be the only difference but that just means there's 1 enemy that the AC is better at dealing with than the railgun, since the railgun kills berserkers, hulks, armored striders, all kinds of devastators faster than the AC with satisfying headshots that reward skill.
>>492139210The issue is not how poor it is to deal with tanks and striders, the issue is when everyhting else is on cd the AC is far more self sufficient than the RG.>since the railgun kills berserkers, hulks, armored striders, all kinds of devastators faster than the AC with satisfying headshots that reward skillOh, so you just can't aim with the AC for the same headshots? Sounds like a skill issue to me.
>>492139464Except the AC has a worse handling stat and insane recoil for follow up shots so it's not really a matter of skill more like waiting for your crosshair to catch up with your skill, which you don't have to deal with when you use the RG.
>>492139464>Oh, so you just can't aim with the AC for the same headshots?hulks take 2 headshots from the AC retard-kun, it's worse
>>492139536>not really a matter of skill>aiming a poor handling weapon is not skillDelusional.
>>492138947:(We need a new hellbread now.
>>492138530Yeah AC turret is my favourite turret and the only one I'll ever actually take.
Next Bread>>492140512>>492140512>>492140512
>>492130786>and arent just a group of friends shitposting.Massive cope.All discords are for troons.You are a troon.
>>492138679It's your prerogative to be so mistaken. Railgun is extremely lacking in durable damage, aoe damage, rate of fire, efficacy over long range, and ammo management. Categories that AC excels at. Master of all trades. >b-but you can trickshot with railgun Same goes for the best long-range weapon in this game, the autocannon. Anyone with good aim severely limits themselves by skipping AC in favor of the lackluster alternatives. I have no idea why people are so easily pleased. You should demand your favorite gun to be a lot less limited than it is at the moment.
>>492129880Asians are actually whiter than white and should be actively discriminated against, according to all major universities.
>>492138773AC is far stronger in every scenario, 100% durable damage as opposed to AMRs 50ish, less dropoff over long distances, 3rd person reticle, better ammo pool. AMR's advantage boils down to the scope which simply isn't a big deal and might be added to AC in the future anyway.
>>492139639I can land both those shots in a third of the time it takes to charge up your toy gun
