Flare Edition>Previous>>491978771>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible. https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_Wikihttps://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/>NEWSAugust 6: Escalation of Freedom Update https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339865428695343823August 13: A message from the devs https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339866697736692015August 20: 1.001.004 Patch https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/6992487606095723693August 21: 1.001.005 Hotfix https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4252047773008305837>CURRENT WARBONDAugust 8: Freedom's Flame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXngA0CO33c
reminder that hellbomb predicted the direction swiggers would take this game
>>492140680I need a cutediver shaking a hellmbomb like a magic 8 ball.
>>492141319A Leandiver doing the Jacko pose while a hellbomb is dropping straight into the crack.
>>492140680I want to play as a hellbomb. I'll get called down, sit motionlessly until armed by a helldiver, then explode in their face instantly. Or get destroyed by gunships and then immediately quit the lobby and close the game in sheer rage. Either one works.
Having less than 14k players online is a good thing, actually. God, this game needs the Concord treatment. Just total playerbase death.
>>492144281My headcanon is that most of the helldivers have died.
>tried the autocannon for a while>it's flawless>can't go backThe time has come to part ways, Mr bubble shield
>>492144281Having less then 14k people means the game is dead. Doomsissies need to find hobbies besides pegging.
Anyone notice certain guns default to first person despite using them in third person previously? I'm fucking tired of this spaghetti code.
>>492147773We were always at war with east asia.
>>492147773First person bug came back stronger than ever and is spreading
>>492147773>>492148368Fix your settings, subhuman niggers.
>new bot MO to get orbital Napalmhuh, neat
>mission mode in which you only get 1 death each>if you die, you lose the mission and someone else replaces you via reinforcement>ability to sacrifice yourself to complete objectives (ex: launch yourself with the ICBM to manually guide it to the objective)Would you give your life for Super Earth?
>>492149290All that is left is to return the burn time ticks back to reasonable numbers and not 2 seconds.>>492149616Anon, imagine the server load. They can't handle 4 people in 1 game normally, you want to add like 20+ into a match rotation.
>>492149290>15k active playersn-neat...
>play the game MO>7th time in a row
>>492145214>try pussy shield for first time in a while>I don't get ragdolled every 5 secondsI'll going on a shield vacation with HMG. You guys can do the damage.
>le hecking poor intel modifier on every missionI wish, hear me out...I WISH, THAT FUCKING MODIFIERS GAVE BONUS REWARDS, LIKE BONUS EXP OR BONUS SAMPLES, OR ANYTHING, EVEN FUCKING COLLECTABLES.AND IT'S NOT EVEN BECAUSE I NEED THOSE, BECAUSE I'M FULLY CAPPED AND LEVEL 150, I WISH IT WAS THERE, JUST TO GIVE THE ILLUSION OF ARROWHEAD GIVING A SHIT.>le game should be le harder because... le heckin I wanna be to Guy did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMMJust gonna leave this here
>>492151668>all the modifiers in this game are purely to the detriment of the player>you now remember the stratagem scrambler & 1-less-slot modifiers
>>492140512>Thread 2h ago>Not even 100 postsDead game.Dead general.What went wrong?
>>492153572swedes
>66 squad impact Jeez.
>>492153572>major new toy on the horizon>nobody gives a shitWhy did they nerf fire before the fire warbond and fire orbital?Who did that?Why aren't we allowed to know who green lighted the decision?
>>492153572Game got too popular and attracted 200,000 whiners
>>492153893Because it was probably Alexus, and they think we're too mean already. That's why they only go on the low sodium reddit these days.
Reminder that weapons getting higher means that they'll obstruct your view when you are at a terminal.This is one of those microchanges that is 100% malicious and intentional.
I swear level 150s are more retarded than sub 100s. It's not even about stratagem loadout, just how they play.
>>492154786>they don't care anymore, they just want to have funYou are the retard for not understanding them.
Do we get to trial Orbital Napalm during this MO?
>>492155049You can both perform and have fun.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241854004038/76561198126520852Bots D10, lets cool down on Marfark.
>>492155223>get sucked up by interdimensional glitch that instakills you >forced to either give up equipment and become useless at direct approaches for the next minutes or fight to retrieve itOnce you play enough you figure out that dying 19 times doesn't matter, if you lock in at the last reinforcement.
>>492153572go back to anime and fromslop, popular filth enjoyer
>>4921553393/4, get in NOW!
>>492154786>sub 100s xDNever got this meme. The best lobbies I've had have been with people around level 60-90. They seem more motivated, like to group together and are just friendly. People lvl 120+ are always a mixed bag and tend to lone wolf constantly in my experience. This game is easy anyways, so who cares?
>>4921553393/4, going now.
>>492130019i don't much care for a subhuman controller youtuber's opinion on weapons. But while we're at it I think it's even good that he ranked it low. Stay away from my loadouts.
>>492155339>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241854004038/76561198126520852full
>>492156652cope
>>492154786i can't bring myself to care anymore, the non stop patrols spawning out of thin air have eroded any shit i might've had into staying alive, as long as the mission is complete its good enough for me
I’m constantly disappointed in this game, but I’m holding out hope for vehicles and the illuminate
It's amazing how much more fun you have with this game when you speedrun the main objective and then fuck around the map doing the other stuff. Extra points if you're max level and already unlocked everything. This should've never been a GAAS game. They should've just made it like DRG and then release DLCs from time to time to pay the bills.
>>492153893>Why aren't we allowed to know who green lighted the decision?they don't owe you this. you do not work for the company. stop pretending otherwise.
>orbital napalm LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOalso give us a 5th strat slot already FUCK
>>492157916>5th strat slotHow many slots did the first game have?
>>492157226Stop being a cuckold. Our demands are everything Arrowhead should think about and work towards. Respect and basic dignity are only fof people that perform. Don't wanna be treated as a subhuman, don't act as one. Simple.
>>492158021No idea since I didn't play it but this would be the best way to make defending missions seem fun. We should have the advantage so give us a 5th slot with defending or make the strat cooldowns 50% or something.Also I am STILL mad that the flamethrower doesn't stagger enemies. I can blow that in some bug fuckers face and he just walks up to me as if the Newton's laws mean jack shit
>>492158068>Our demands are everything Arrowhead should think about and work towards.ok fag
>>492158232Defending missions? You mean the Tower defense one with the 8 rockets? That's literally the easiest mission in the entire game even at D10.
>>492158520No I mean when we have a planet to defend. Like lore wise they are attacking us but we have no fucking advantage. It'd be nice if we had extra orbitals or something. Like free strafe and rocket pods
>>4921580214, and you could have duplicates.Resupply was a stratagem choice as well.
Want heavy railgun>1 use cap>slow handling>10 second charge (safe only)>backpack with one round (just a giant metal spike strapped to your back)>2k damage, full durable damage>pierces everything until it hits terrain>plasma trail deals minor explosive damage within 1 meter of projectile pathI just want a big stupid gun that does cool shit.
>>492155932I kick every lone wolf who enters my lobbies. The count's probably over 100 now
60 DAY PLAN
Just a reminder: We are past a quarter way through their 60 days to "fix" the game that they said we'd be getting patches throughout...and we have yet to see a single god damn thing. They even had an extra week between when EoF came out and they promised to adjust course. We are gonna see one nothingburger patch at about the halfway mark and then another at the 70 day mark, screencap me.Space Marine 2 comes out in just over a week if you preordered or just under 2 if you wait for release. Swedes are toasted.
>>4921553393/4 again
>>492159458I hope we fail this MO and keep failing it, fuck this company, I refuse to be swede'd again.
>>492159458they patted themselves on the back over their vacation and ran away with the launch money. They honestly thought they could do no wrong.
>>492158901I want a primary railgun.>mag fed>overpenetration >AP3>safe mode only>basically a charge-up DMR
>60 days>45 days left>12th~ of October Dead Line>11~ working days spent>33~ working left>Nothing revealed or fixed>A month and change to make it all work out>This could have all been avoided if they didn't change fire and take the mags from the incel breaker>tfwPeople could have tolerated the Barrager Tank and Rocket Chicken, maybe even the increased stagger on the Bug Front as well. A little "Sorry lol, we will have it fixed first thing September" and everything would have been fine.But the Swedes shit the bed again and it's a hell of a story to watch unfold .I'm not sure Arrowhead really knows what to do or if they will claw back enough trust by October. What do you gamers think?
>>492153078They should intoduce regional objetives, that upon completion will add modifiers to all planets in said sextor for ~24 hours. Something like:-some extra stratagem (already get these effects occasionaly)-enemy gets patrol/reinforment rotation slowdowns -certain side objectives will be disabled/instantly completed-SEAF objectives and settlements will have more/chances to have random primary\support weapons lying around-stratagem type gets extra 20-30% cd reduction-weapon/dmg type will do 20-30% more dmg-mission rewards/collectibles are 20-30% increasedAnd many other options can be thought aboutBut instead the flamer gets nerfed since it can kill that 1 charger that spawns every 10 minutes on diff5 too well, who gives a fuck if 2 behes spawn every 30 seconds on diff 9+.
>>492159458>doesn't know that the 60 days is accounting for time spent playing SM2 when it releasesngmi
>>492158901>big stupid gun that does cool shityou called?
>>492160037>-enemy gets patrol/reinforment rotation slowdownsthis would honestly fix most of my gripes with the games at the moment
>>492160005>>60 days >>45 days leftDid they eat 2 weeks without updates? This is bad, there should be a ("big") patch at least each week to fix everything.
>>492160171Not big or stupid enough. I exclusively run AC because it's the closest thing.
>>492160171He wants a bigger Spear.Plap plap is for kids.
>>492160485Don't plap kids.
>>492160005>What do you gamers think?I think people are going to make Death of a Game and other youtube videos talking about how Arrowhead killed Helldivers 2. It's honestly incredible how hard they've fumbled the ball here.
They shadow buffed spawns and patrol again.
>>492160236These are the only updates we've had, the first patch I've added to the right and the second patch is what is says on the tin and nothing else.
>>492160273propose the heavy autocannon then. your heavy railgun is a cool idea, heavy ac could be the more ammo sustainable backpack bound alternative.>>492160626this bullshit is worthy of documentary./hdg/ chads will be the fact checkers.
Dropped an orbital on me? Team killDidn't reinforce me after I pinged? Team killStood in front of my gun? Team killDidn't cover me when I was on an emplacement? Team killUselessly triggered a breach and ran away? Team killBad microphone? Team killKill my tesla tower? Team killThrow orbital/eagle before extract? Team killGet out of my game.
>>492160929a micropenis ridden excuse for a male wrote this post
>bots>heavies have weak points >have to play around them but if you are out of heavy weapons or strats you're not asl>bugs>lmao get fuckedYou should be able to shoot the joints of the titans and make them limp or fall down
>>492161002That sounds more like an oversized clit ot be honest.
>>492161002Respond to my post? Team kill
fucking wrestled that game out from the grip of defeat
>>492161101a second strong possibility I did not consider
>>492160929Damn you're so fucking cool
>>492161071Bugs, more so than bots but them too, should not remain as combat effective as they do as they take damageA Titan and Charger with their spines EXPLODED from their bodies by Heavy Weapons trundle along after you like they only just spawned in.The Inner Legs of big things Chargers and up should be less armoured than the outer claw allowing you to as you said rip the whole fucking leg off.
>40% positive reviews in last 30 daysWe are gonna hit negative bros...Also can anyone even muster up positivity for the future of the game? I actually still enjoy playing it, and even I get fucked over by objectives glitching and breaking, the game crashing, weird stupid bug that switches me to a random difficulty instead of the one I chose even after verifying files. It doesnt even feel great to use my favourite weapons because I know my playing them actively increases their chance of being nerfed
>>492160783I could work with heavy AC, too.>AP5, frag grenade explosion effect, double damage of sentry AC>can't walk when equipped>has a bipod mount you need to go prone/crouch with to shoot>bipod gives you limited field of fire, have to reset it to cover other angles>5 round mag>20 round backpack>single load only, no clips>scopeCall it an anti-tank rifle. Kino heavy support weapon.
>>492161154you'll never truly forget those missions where you desperately completed the main objective while the reinforcement counter reached zero and then bullied your entire dumbass squad into surviving through to pelican takeoff
>>492153572The game got too popular, many people joined because they saw videos of it but didn't enjoy it enough to stick around after the next popular game came out. The first game was super obscure and we should've realized the honeymoon wouldn't last.
>>492161756Holy fuck, I sneed this weapon. Imagine decapitating a factory strider with it.
>>492161709I want to love it; I really do, and the core gameplay is still solid. But they keep doing these stupid decisions, and then play catch up, and then fuck up something else along the way and apologize. They don’t ID the actual problem, like with the guns, they should ALL feel FUN to use at the highest difficulty. Make things fun to use, make the enemies numerous but not unfair. Don’t worry about realism autism, this is a sci-fi shooter game, go nuts.
>>492161592A charger should get dazed and blinded by fire. And we should be able to shoot / blow off the titan's legs. Make that ducker limp or even become completely immobilized
>>492161071Hit the nail on the headForced to run AT, and the heavies that can technically be killed without heavy penetration take fucking forever to kill. Having to run around in circles like a sped while AT is on cooldown because a Bile Titan spawned is just shit. You can shoot the limbs off bots to disable their attacks but no such thing exists with Terminids. A bug could be missing half its torso and have its head blown off and it still runs at you full speed with the same precision and lethality. You blow up the glowing green squishy underside of a BT and it gets faster for some reason? It's fucking miserable.
>>492144198>I'll get called down, sit motionlessly until armed by a helldiver, then explode in their face instantly that's already how hellbombs work
>>492161901>smack a bile titan with a shot to the side>staggers it out of animations>a second blows a hole in the carapace>a third in the squishy bits knocks it over dead
>>492161709>muster up positivity for the future of the gamelolno I refuse to lie to you, thinks are very bleak for heckers 2we might get a third faction expansion, emphasis on might, they might also decide to just not do it. if it happens it will most likely be a buggy unenjoyable mess at the start and take a whole shitload of additional time to get bugfixed.then it's the long wait for Helldivers 3 or Magicka 3 whichever is first.with all that said we should hope for other more capable studios to plagiarize the shit out of this game and effectively give us the version that only exists in our heads right now. that's our best course to satisfaction.
Has anyone actually tested the collateral effect of the railgun? I know I've seen it punch through multiple enemies, but there's little to no data on paper for:>does it work on all charges?>if not, does more charge increase the number of enemies it can go through?>can it hit more than two?>does piercing one enemy reduce damage/AP to the next?This is shit you can not easily test.
>>492161901>>492162225TY for thinking my fanfic guns are cool <3
>>492161709i'm mad precisely because i really enjoyed what AH had going, and no other game is doing anything like heckfallguys. but they keep shitting on their own game and making it more frustrating to play, and unlearning the "lessons they've learned," like the big patch before EoF versus EoF itself.how the actual fuck did nobody on the team load up the barrager and learn that it doesn't fucking die when you kill the engine box, or that it can clip through its own fucking body to shoot you.
>>492162292Oh it definitely can pierce through multiple bots, just try to angle your shot at a multitude when behind an incoming dropship. I once killed 4 medium bots with the mother of all shots that way.
WHY ARE THERE NO DAYTIME LOBBIES AHHHHH WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY ON NIGHT MAPS YOU CAN'T SEE SHIT AHHHHH
>>492162407>i'm mad precisely because i really enjoyed what AH had goingThats definitely where im up to. I left the game for a couple months, came back and despite everything being worse I still enjoyed the core experience when it didnt kick me out. Its impressive how good that core gameplay is.>>492162278I'd say Space Marine 2 as a competitor will finally shake AH awake but I doubt it. Swedes are just too fucking slow.
>>492162570So it just carries through everything in the path of the shot with little to no damage drop-off? Cool.
>>492162119It'd so weird because the charger is animated to charge, stop, and look around exposing it's rear. Just let us shoot that without a faggot 90% dmg reduction
>>492162225>charger your sights>double tap its head clean off>behemoth or impaler>peel its armor plating like a durian fruit
>>492163126>no mechanic where we throw a grenade in the titan's mouth right before it vomitsIt hurts
>don't play for a week>launch the game>immense enjoyment:)
>>492163285and that's why I always pick stunsgrenades are just C tier on any sizable threats, the better types are B- if we're generousthey should be three times as strong outright
>>492161709>Also can anyone even muster up positivity for the future of the game?I can generate hope but I will never expect Arrowhead to not be capable of shitting the bed at a moments notice, from everything I've seen a Swede is incapable of making a Live Service Videogame. You give them time they can make something acceptable but it's a lot of fucking time needed.Other's though? Probably not. The outlook for Helldivers is fucking so far in the water it's insane, from people talking about it around town like a peak Game of Thrones episode too people call folk mentally ill for suggesting it could be GOTY.Lets take a look at their business plan for the next 60 (45) days>Admission of guilt they don't know how to balance and will change itThis is good as they have shown they can make good patches but the sample size of the single patch piles was in charge is is not great.>Changing fire and explicitly mentioning rangeThis could be the start of Flammers being stun machines and Bugs/Bots reacting properly to melting to death >Taking a step back from their retarded stance of primary weapon not being allowed to be strong>A chance the titan head bug will be fixed in my life time>Performance fixes are always wanted>Chargers not being build defining (this might draw issue to shit just being over armoured in general)>A fucking Beta Branch I never play on beta builds but for Helldvers I will and try my best to drum up good feedback for it>Surveys and shitI've seen good ideas in these threads, there is a chance they ae dropping their Swedish arrogance to listen.>Improved patch notesSo we can see why they are retarded and stop them from putting their hand on the stove>StreamsI want to watch the Devs getting Filtered on Level 4's anon, quite very badly i doThis entire post is cope but what is hope but focused cope
>>492163889I'm convinced swedes have a mental problem inherent to their race.
>>492163889>I want to watch the Devs getting Filtered on Level 4'sThey would do it exactly once, get clowned on relentlessly for 1 hour, then never do it again. Nothing would hurt worse than the entire player base highlighting the fact that you can't play your own video game.
>>492162278>then it's the long wait for Helldivers 3 or Magicka 3 whichever is first.It will be a cold dark day before I buy an Arrowhead game, hell even a Swedish Dev'd game, again anon.
>>492163563They should nerf stuns so we can take the other nades.
>>492162119>You blow up the glowing green squishy underside of a BT and it gets faster for some reason?Less weight obviously. So realistic!
>>492161773I will, because it's just a videogame and I don't really give a shit.Making vidya memories is for underaged kids and good games only.
>>4921553392/4, more bots.
>>492164624They should give you 2 grenade slotsThe first gets the full 4 and the second gets 2>4 frags and 2 Smokes for real gamers>6 Stuns for Meta Niggers>6 Impacts for Hyper Shitters
>>492161709Unfortunately, I don't really see any positive future for the game if the devs don't get their shit together soon. Most likely, if the "60 days to fix everything" falls flat OR they nerf random shit one update later, then this game has no long term future.Personal prediction: >they fuck up the 60 Days update/fuck shit up one update after>player counts start dropping more>Daddy Sony nootices>AH releases their "actually fixes everything 1 year anniversary update">doesn't move the needle, or at least not for long>Sony pulls the plug>"ackshually, we had no plans for this game to last forever, CHUD!">no more updates, infinite asspats from discord and reddit
>>492155339full
>>492164350hilarious seeing normies get exposed to the swigger menace
>>492161773exactly what happened and insanely one of them went rogue and tried to KILL me with no reinforcements left
>>492161709>It doesnt even feel great to use my favourite weapons because I know my playing them actively increases their chance of being nerfedTurn off data collection in settings so that faggot Alexus can't do his job of fucking with your weapons via "balancing" by the spreadsheet data. Problem solved.
>>492164783You will get ze alzheimers.
>tfw only enjoy the game on the bot front on diff 6after 400 hours this is it huh
>>492165314After all these swede dev bullshit logic I'm always on 6 for bots and bugs.
>>492165302Good, so I can forget this garbage fire of a game completely.
>>4921649484 standard HE and 4 Throwing Knives.
>>492165453Oh fuck I kneel
>>492165417If you weren't already mentally ill you could stop posting here. I don't mean this website, I mean just this general. Play another game bro, for example, anything else.
>>492162663>Daytime maps on desert biomes.I'd rather not be flashbanged, thank you.
>>492161709I used the Sickle but I think it's a bit lame to have infinite ammo, so I switched to the Liberator Carbine.
>>492165673Insane projection.
>>492163889If they rework fire I hope Napalm becomes good because it's cool.
>>492162663The spooky map at night has the best visibility.
Does the railgun kill gunship engines decently yet? I haven't tried it for a while and I want to use something that isn't AMR/AC on bots. Don't shill me the laser cannon. Been having a lot of fun just skipping a backpack and using the MMG on bugs, you scoop one up eventually anyway.
>>492166013maybe a projection (false) but that doesn't mean it doesn't hit home
>>492166286ESL-bro, before you try to play armchair psychologist, try to graduate from highschool.
Why take a support weapon stratagem when you can just find one at a POI?
>>492166617>find door POI>open it>three flamethrowers>its a bot planet
>>492166617I want this one and now. I can load for the RRchad if he doesn't get a brain system error when I'm docked onto him.
>>492166617because there's five hulks at your drop site and five more at the first poi
>>492166919Just stun and OPS.>>492166842Worst case scenario, you wait a few minutes for someone else's support weapon to come off cooldown.
>>492166617Because sometimes POIs don't spawn at D10 and with bad RNG, you are better off with just a primary.But generally speaking, I do that already, what's your point?
>>492166617selection and spawn rate are too tiny on high difficultieson low diffs you can find filled supply packs and the kino break action shotgun, on high diffs you exclusively find garbage like arc thrower
>>492159694Not gonna happen, it's absurdly easy. Bugdivers were able to kill a half billion bugs in about a day last time, and they're giving five for this. With a new stratagem on the line, there's no way in hell you can convince the Blob not to all-in on this.
>>492165314All the people that complain about the difficulty, ragdolling, enemy spawns and patrols should just play on a lower difficulty so they can get the experience they want desu senpai
>>492167150When will they add break action shotgun to the stratagems?It could drop two of them or something, idk.
They should buff the break action shotgun and add it to the list of unlockable stratagems.Give it higher armour pen and overpenetration/piercing.
>>492167424it doesn't do that much more damage than the punisher, 585 per shell
>>492166503? it's grammatical
>>4921662453 safe shots2 unsafe shots properly edgedso just keep it in safe
>>492167150NTA, and Arc Thrower is great against both factions.AMR, LC, RG, Stalwart, MMG, EAT, GL all great.Flamethrower can kill stuff, but it's just a damage sprinkler.Break-action is literally worse than a primary weapon, and it's still ok to have.SPEAR, RR, AC, Quasar, Airburst, HMG and backpacks would also be great, they just don't spawn at all, same for backpacks.If you get 1 random support weapon (not the flamethrower or B-AS and are running 4 red stratagems, you are basically God.
What was your favorite patch lads? Mine was probably when they fixed DOT damage and you could run napalm/gas on bugs and just chew through chaff easily. HMG/assault rifle buff was really fun too.
>>492168267last patch lolI don't remember anything wrong wit it
>>492155049nice straw man retard
>>492168456>starts random topic with a strawman>gets strawman'd back>"NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT"actual brainlet lmao
>>492168615nta, you're literally just a retard
>>492168982The argument is still valid, retard-kun.God I love low IQ pseudos
>>492158520>That's literally the easiest mission in the entire game even at D10.that's fucking bullshit
>>492158901Just give us a proper anti-tank rifle support weapon.>handling as bad as HMG>has to be reloaded every shot like Railgun, animation requires you to be stationary for 3 seconds>350 standard damage, 350 durable damage, 120 explosive damage with 1.5 meter outer radius, AP6 on projectile, AP3 on explosion>scope can be adjusted for 50/100/150 meters>requires backpack that carries 15 reserve ammoBam, you now have a support weapon that requires more shots to kill enemies than the Commando but in the form of a rifle with comparatively low reload time and decent ammo.
>>492154786The longer I've played the more likely I've been to turn up drunk and/or with shitty meme loadouts to cope with the monotony.
>>492169141Your argument is that all Level 150s are unilaterally good at the game. You're literally just a retard
What fun stratagems and weapons are we missing from HD1? I know that game had goo guns which sounds fun
>>492166617Because they nerfed the arc thrower to fuck vs bots, otherwise I wouldn't mind playing they support gacha on bots. And now the flamethrower is a dead pick I dont want to test my luck on bugs either.
>>492169732>admits to lack reading comprehensionLMAOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHoly shit, you are actually an idiot.Damn, now I feel sorry for you.
>>492169741Calling down barbed wire traps on the arena maps was fun as hell in hd1 but it wouldnt translate well. We're missing other stuff like op detpacks, gps guided artillery, mixed rocket/mg strafing run, the beam smg that did a fuck ton of damage for low range.
>>492169289How the fuck is that hard? Have 1 guy bring EAT/COMMANDO/SPEAR/500KG and the rest brings whatever the fuck and it's literally impossible to fail that mission. I'm starting to believe the devs were right about skill issue being the source of half the bitching.
>>492170587Its ok to admit you dont actually play that mission type and have never had striders just dropped on the canyon tops and snipe your buildings instantly.
I actually love snow maps
>>492171084I love snow maps too.
>>492170812>muh stridersYou mean the ones dying to 1 shot from a railgun or 2-3 from autocannon? I would be a fag like you and say the "it's ok..." meme, but it's never ok to be a shitter.
>>492171084>mapsWe have more than 1? We have the ice/snow. Unless you're counting the tundra one.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241869036619/76561198931226109boots, Myfart or whatever that planet's name is
>>492171084luv me snowluv me bogluv me forest'ate desert'ate junglenorf biomes be'er than souf biomes, simple as.
Wait, ammo bricks only give you ONE mag for the AMR? What the fuck is this swiggadry.
>>492171446Yup... Definetly didn't play Asset Defence on d10
>>492171693Icy, granted sometimes it looks more like an ice floe rather than rocky outcrops
>>492172026moons?
>>492172028Wouldn't want it to be too reliable.
>12 in the afternoon US east time.>23k players online.I expect it to go up to about 30k in the afternoon when gamerdads get off work. If they even play this dogshit game anymore, that is. This is actually unironically the death throes of this game. Only weekends will salvage these numbers, and at a point even that doesn't matter - just look to Concord for that as fact LMAO
>>492172028skill issue
>>492172028It's for balance purposes :^)
>>492172028Can only fit seven rounds in a box that size please understand blapple flavcon appors.
>>492172028Indented behavior
>>492169384I like this. Much closer to the current support weapons. I just really like "big power, big drawback", so I'm going to pretend my superweapon OC is a good idea.
Is the light medic armor a good idea for bugs? I kinda just want it to go with the meth boosters and a supply pack to see how fucking fast I can go.
>>492173121omg noooooo it creates mustard gasnigga just go into a match and try ityou lose nothing by trying out new things
>>4921718842/4
>>492172924copers always say they just need 3 other anons but thats simply not true.the rounds in this game are quite long, the population is split between several maps in in the first place and then its split again between 10 levels.I only tolerate it 2 or 3 times to get matched with dif 5 because match making cant find anything in the higher ones and swedes needed to obscufade how empty it already is
>>492173121Yeah, that should work just fine. I'm surprised I don't see medic armor more desu, but I suppose the improved handling trait is hard to give up.
>>492157226>Alexus' shitty ideas kill the playerbase>I-it's not his fault! There's an entire balance team at fault!And who is the head of the balance team?Oh.Right.
>>4921718843/4 we must defend marklar
mines all over again innit
>>492164350>I'm convinced swedes have a mental problem inherent to their race.They have two:Arrogance and a holier-than-thou attitude.Swedes as a people are exactly like the smartass who was in your class. Except nobody ever taught him that he's an annoying asshole but they instead pat each other on the back all the time.
>>492174051total chicken walker death
>>492154786>maxx literally everything out>0 need to lock in unless you're actually facing a loss/failure to extract150s locked in will always be much better than any other kind of diver
>>492172502adjudicator's pretty nice actually
>>492174051It's early morning in the US, and a bunch of bug players are on Esker and Pandion for at least the next day or so, once they're finished defending a decent chunk of them will go to the bots side to help. The kill count will start shooting up in the next 16 hours or so due to regular activity shifts.
>>492174682you weren't there for the release adjudicator, were you?
Next warbond when? I am not planning on getting it
>>492175129in a month :^)
>>492175129october, probably
>>492160037But Arc Thrower is SLAPPING Bile Titans from across the map, anon! Surely that takes presidence
>>492175502is there even a single video of this happeningeven if there is, what does it fucking meanwhy is it like>arc thrower can hit BTs?>time to nerf it to be worthless against hulksit's a non sequitur
>>492175693it was real in alexuses mind
>>492175693He probably saw a video of someone finishing a BT with an Arc Thrower... Which you can still do
>>492175693That was a quote from Alexus trying to justify why the arc thrower's range was nerfed from back when the PS5 host bug was still a thing and ALL support weapons were doing 10 times the damage they should be if you had a PS5 network host. With a PS5 host a it only took 2 or 3 zaps from the arc thrower to either completely blow out the sides of the bile titan or obliterate its head. In that context the arc trower being able to kill bile titans in jsut a few zaps fro ma range of 50 meters is "slapping bile titnas from across the map"Yes this does mean they nerfed the arcthrower over a bug, but worse than that it means they DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME WORKS. If they knew the numbers on the arcthrower and the bile titans and knew how the damage system works and how its calculated then they would have known that a single zap to obliterate the bile titans spine shouldn't be possible. They should have known the bile titans armour has 100% durability and 650 health and the arc thrower only does 50 durable damage so there should have been no fucking way in hell it should have been performing that strongly.
>>492171884timeout?
Afternoon sisters!
>>492176423From 6 months ago:https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1aqbh5l/arc_thrower_is_a_bit_too_effective/Shit like this could happen with the PS5 host damage bug in the game. You can even see in the comments people saying it doesn't work like that for them and it's taking 20 or 30 shots (the proper amount) to kill bile titans. The PS5 host bug era was fucking wild with so much fucking cope about how it didn't exist and it was actually becuase they were hitting some secret fucking cheek hitboxor eye shot or other extremely specific (and non existent) "crit spot"
>>492171884Game crashed
>>492160748More than I expectedI require complete radio silence from themBecause the more these idiots try to fix, the more they break
>>492177541I honestly wonder what kind of totally fucked retardo-programming they did to produce a bug that enormous and also fundamentally misunderstand what was actually going on for long enough to start making sweeping changes around said bug.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241875816990/76561198126520852Bots,D10.
What would you like for level 6 Super Destroyer upgrades?>Patriotic Administration Center: 5th stratagem slot>Orbital Cannons: Friendly fire damage against Helldivers is reduced by 40%>Hangar: Pelican mounts a machine gun to each side of its fuselage, which it uses any time the player with the upgrade uses a stratagem where it drops off equipment or calls extraction>Bridge: Enemies on teammates' radars appear on your radar>Engineering Bay: When picking support weapons with required backpacks, you can now call down the backpack only as a separate stratagem with its own individual cooldown>Robotics Workshop: Exosuits gain +1 level of armor on all body parts
>>492173121Light medic sounds like it's a lot better than it is when the reality is you have such low defences that you get popped more often than you even get the chance to get your stim off.
>Hey, thank you for the feedback.>I 100% agree with tech debt - it is a constant challenge for the engineers, where we have to choose between working on long standing issues or new features, which is where we fail to deliver new content at the appropriate quality.>The team being tired from a long development has been challenging.>The systematic approach to game design (to be able to get emergent moments) means that it takes longer for us to onboard new engineers - with over 200 systems that all need to interact and has a lot of details per system - and mistakes happen as some who wrote the original systems are no longer with the studio, meaning nuances can bite us in the behind.>We are improving this, but as you can see - this combined with the demands on the team from the appreciation that the game has found as well as our ambition level is straining us.>Also, we need to do better with our QA processes.>The key issue that I see is the delta from launch where the game was about having a fun, chaotic, challengong emergent experience with like-minded has been eroded through a shift in focus to challenge and competitiveness without considering the more playful experience.>Thank you for your kind words and fair criticism, it helps us become better and makes us want to get this right so you can all enjoy the game more and more every update, not less.>Also, I want to say that I'm sorry that we have not managed to live up to the expectations.>JWhat do we think of Pilestedt's groveling and whining? Should devs who get 50-100 paid vacation days a year be allowed to feel burnout? Why are Swedes the most incompetent gamedevs in the world?
>>492179071reeeeee disconnection bug
>>4921790714/4>>492179340sorry buddy :(
>>492179153>The key issue that I see is the delta from launch where the game was about having a fun, chaotic, challengong emergent experience with like-minded has been eroded through a shift in focus to challenge and competitiveness without considering the more playful experience.he basically admitted the bait and switch they did.They want to do a hard and obnoxious game but they knew no one would have bought an obnoxious and miserable bugfest
>>492178323The charger legs still exist, and instead of getting fixed resulted in the flamer getting burried. Just Sverige things.
>>492179930>the propoganda video at the start of the game was unironically for the players
>>492180179ngl the intro video is a 10/10 masterpiece of a trailer. the director deserves an award
>>492178323piles basically confirmed that the people maintaining the game are not the people who created the game initially, and they blatantly do not play the game either, otherwise the barrager wouldn't have launched with an unclamped turret that doesn't die when the engine box gets popped.
>>492180492they need to be replaced
any good mods?i like the star wars ones but idk
>>492179153(from the same thread, replying to PileOfShit)'Verisimilar' means something appears to be true or real, but is not necessarily actually true.Helldivers 2 doesn't even treat guns or ballistics realistically at all. AT rockets use shaped charges, the speed at which they impact is irrelevant when a liquified copper stream goes 10km/s. Me diving towards an enemy to increase damage is idiotic.Carbine just means shorter barrel. The Liberator Carbine has a barrel that is MAYBE 2 inches shorter, how this leads to a 50% increase in rate of fire I don't know. You'd have to swap out the receiver assembly, the spring mechanism, etc to change the ROF. The weapons temperature can also change the ROF based on the springs temperature. The increased recoil makes a little bit of sense.The Eruptor bullet, despite being a gyrojet, just disappears around 160m in game if I recall. They should be INCREASING in velocity until the fuel runs out, then dropping off, not vanishing from existence. Why does a sniper rifle have a maximum range?A triple-shot Bushwacker would break your wrist with recoil.The Lib Concussive says it does less damage despite doing more damage.The Spray & Pray fires birdshot for some reason? It also floats in the air whenever you drop it. Quality QA there.Breaker Incendiary says it can't fire full auto due to 'heat', but we can rapid fire it anyways.You're obsessed with the details but your details are often wrong. The extra complications in your code have only lead to more bugs and errors. An orbital strike for some reason can't penetrate A TREE BRANCH. Same for Eagle Strikes.You're obsessed with realism but you're awful at realism.Just tell people exactly what you want this game to be.Most people here on Reddit anyways don't want a hardcore MilSim and you've proven you can't accurately design realistic weapons.NOBODY cares about the super realistic physics, we get launched into orbit if we touch a corpse, fix that.
Any lobby?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241878792414/76561198010165757defending marfark
>>492179153This article LITERALLY CONFIRMS what anons said. The OG CREW IS GONE and the ones left have no fucking idea what they are doing. LMFAO DEAD GAME DEAD GAME DEAD GAME DEAD GAME
>>492179153>as some who wrote the original systems are no longer with the studio, meaning nuances can bite us in the behind.Holy shit the speculative anons were right. Its not just that the engine itself is dead aids, their talent literally left them with a shit engine no one can use. Which is why changing one thing makes three other things stop working
>Load into a lobby>See this>Get stuck in the freeze chamber>They put a thing you can interact with if you get stuck in the freeze chamber
>tech debt>on a game that's 6 months old
>>492172052>Shitter projectionWEW
>>492174051>11k player average>500kk Kill MOMakes sense
>They had to lower the kill MO from 1.5B to 1B to 500M>Next time it's going to be 200M
>>492184641>barely disguised early access, therefore massive tech debt at release>focus on pumping out shitty updates in an attempt to stem the massive player haemorrhageYeah tech debt.
>>492184641almost 9 years old and could arguably be considered 10-12 years old considering they're using the same engine as HD1 and would (stupidly) have reused code from it.
>>492186043I blame the "new hires" which have to be DEI
>>492181851>The Liberator Carbine has a barrel that is MAYBE 2 inches shorter, how this leads to a 50% increase in rate of fire I don't know. You'd have to swap out the receiver assembly, the spring mechanism, etc to change the ROFShortening the gas system can also increase rate of fire as the gas has less distance to travel.>The Eruptor bullet, despite being a gyrojet, just disappears around 160m in game if I recall. They should be INCREASING in velocity until the fuel runs out, then dropping off, not vanishing from existence. Why does a sniper rifle have a maximum range?It doesn't disappear, it detonates. It's a self-destroying round.
>>492185828And the community will lose bot MOs at destroy 200M bots too.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241881946341/76561198070044660D10 marfartaka bot
>>4921869832/4, join retards.
>>492186504AFAIK it does go faster and drop off before it disappears.
>>492186983>>492187376No.
>>4921869833/4join
>>492188039I'll give you a smack.
>>492184729>doesn't know what a Fuck Strider is or how they can ignore some terrain due to shitty pathfinding and other anomaliesWay to out yourseld
>realism>air-dropped bot tanks don't get pancaked the minute they hit the ground
>realism>enemies can shoot and walk through terrain and corpses if they feel like it>players can't
>>492188470The dropships use gravity well generators in their bellies that prevent lethal velocity on cargo release. Notice how long they stay when dropping the troops.
>>492188470>>492188597realismbros..
>>492188597>>492188470guys, this game is REALISTIC, okay?>short range, dogshit flamethrowers get nerfed furtherlisten, you just-->gunships have hostile programming which chase you down as they crash, regardless of momentumyou have to>walking barrage starts backtracking to chase your teammate (this is a confirmed "bug" (indented[sic] behavior) that can happen)you JUST have to>gunned down by a strider through a mountainaccept it, okay?>nerfs all your favorite weapons into the groundsorry, can't have you slapping enemies from across the map btw (due to a bug that applied to ALL support weapons)
>>492189219>>walking barrage starts backtracking to chase your teammate (this is a confirmed "bug" (indented[sic] behavior) that can happen)Oh so that's why i've seen the walk go 4 shots away only to randomly hit me standing 50m behind the beacon location.
>>492178323The same retardos that kept buffing fire damage and fire dot damage multiple times when it was actually a bug that made fire deal 0 damage if you weren't the host.
The Incel Breaker should have its durable damage nerfed and the ammo nerf reverted.Give it the same ratio as the Cuckout.
>>492179153>anons are surprised that the theories are correctI mean, the signs were there from the beginning. None of the devs knew basic information about the game or how anything in it worked. Like for fucks sake, they even thought the Charger's ass was a weakspot and were surprised at the front legs being weakspots.Hell, if anything, I'm betting HD2 was supposed to be a one-and-done game like the original (barring DLCs), then Sony and the CEO did a bait and switch "actually its gonna be a live service game now" which caused them to leave.
>We're managing to win every single defense on the map right now.Joel's really throwing some soft balls out, huh.
>>492190301Also make the S&P beltfed and give it double the current ammo.
>>492140512BACKPACK FLAMER WHEN maybe like the AC they can actually make it good then you fuckersMACHINE AND/OR MINIGUN WIHT BACKPACK WHENSUPER SHOTGUN WHEN
So how's bugs on the acid rain planet?Does it actually change anything? I'd like to check it out myself but I really don't have time to play today.
>>492193007It's pretty nice, the chargers and bile titans feel like they die way easier.
>>492193090Huh. It should make much of a difference unless you're using HMG/AC/LC since the stuff you kill chargers and titans with has at least pen 6 so it already deals full damage to armor 5.I'll have to try it out myself later. I'm sure we'll fight for the same acid pisshole planet again soon.
>>492193350Yeah I'm not sure if it's placebo but everytime I drop there I notice this and my friends notice too and comment on it and then we are like "oh wait it's the acid maybe."So we weren't excepting anything but it still happened.
Any lobbies?
>>4921869833/4 again
>>492193729yes>>4921869833/4
>>492157089>I’m holding out hope for vehicleslollmao
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ITS AT MINES ALL OVER AGAIN
>>492179071GGs, double barrel shotgun is ass, but i like it :)
>>492191519>incendiary autocannon that fires little incendiary grenades over massive distancesfund it
>>492193881at least it's only 500 million and not 2 billion
>>492193090>>492193350>>492193552It changes nothing for EAT/RR/quasar/SPEAR/Commando shots since they already beat the armour of the head. For AC/AMR/lasercannon./HMG it means you can actually damage the head since it drops from 5 armour to 4 armour. To kill the head you need:6 AC shots11 AMR shots28 HMG shots7.3 seconds of laser cannon fire...provided all the shots actually do damage.
>>492194574Don't forget common stuff that will also be hitting all enemies like eagle airstrikes, whatever damage that napalm eagles do, 120mm, gattling barrage, rocket sentries and auto cannon sentries, some crazies even run eagle rocket pods, airburst orbital, and then near misses from orbital precisions that don't hit dead on.
>>492193881>bot MOThat's whyIf it was a bug MO it'd be finished by now
>>492150926I've noticed at least 3 or 2 players on the bugfront using the shield and shield isn't really something players use over thereNow I understand
here's what I'd do to solve the infinite AR crisis>delete every liberator + tenderizer and a bunch of others>new lib is a "build your own primary" deal>reform libpen, concussive, carbine, etc etc into one of ammo types you can choose, keep adding to them>underbarrel slot: every available grenade type gets an underbarrel ammo version, including a launchable bayonet>can switch between red dot, 200m, or no scope>booster slot for special modifiers like an auto reloader, infrared scope, drum magazineof course sweden would first need to learn how to develop games and then find the will to do it but my theory of a perfect AR is this, the underbarrel slot alone would catapult them back into the meta versus spammer guns like cookout or high dps like jar-5, diligence cs.
492195658I'm not going to read all that shit. Make an actual fucking suggestion that doesn't require rebuilding the system from the ground up.
>>492196083Give all libs/ars/smgs +30 ammo. Give all med pen weapons +1 pen.Increase aim time by 1-2 seconds if options above are wayyy too op for a true milsim game like Impaledivers 2.Take it or leave the game.
>>492195658dont touch my tenderizer, faggot
>>492196083I need to reinforce my point, this is not a solution we will ever get, just a notion of what an ideal AR would be. if you want a realistic solution that arrowhead can actually manage to create I guess you'll have to wait for warbonds with ARs that have EMS, incendiary, etc effects. Maybe one with jet propelled rounds turning jar-5 into a joke, wouldn't that be fun.
>>492195658I have read all that shit and found it acceptable>>492196083If Pileofshit doesn't decide to just cancel this entire game and run away with the money (very likely to happen), they'll eventually need to rebuild every system from the ground up anyways
>>492196886they need Helldivers 3 on an efficient contemporary well-documented engine but being their lazy selves that will take them the better part of two decades to make.
>>492197148Unreal 4, that's the most they can handle.
>>492197148Or just spend an entire year with no meaningful content updates coping with the shitty engine and fixing what they can, which is a massive lot, since it's the only engine they've ever used and most of the issues are their own fault and not some engine limitation
>>492141319What question are you asking the magic hellbomb?
>>492197603if I were pilestink I'd just hire a bunch of Koreans, brand them Arrowhead East, and tell them to make their preferred version of Helldivers
"Engine issues" is just corpospeak for>we've dumped all the work on underpaid interns with no experience and they're going through the exact same problems seniors already learned to avoid and fixSee: Kerbal Space Program 2
>>492198071Helldive defence force 6?
>>492197772>not some engine limitationI suppose not but at any rate Arrowhead has no handle on the situation
>>492198430Oh yeah, they don't. It's why I said it's likely they'll run away with the money (see: KSP2)
>try adult baby diaper shield>blocks you're view of things right in front of yout-thank you
>>492194918Hmm, would love to test gatling sentry break points on bots during an acid storm.
>>492198678if that was their intention they would have just taken a deal from epic, like Red Hook did with Darkest Dungeon 2.
>>492199175Tbf it's better than having a clear view of a heavy devastator clipping its gun through its own shield while you're ragdolled
>>492199175Take the guard dog instead anon. It has been engoodened and will protecc without hindering you or being cringe. I like to combine it with AMR for ammo savings.
Does the P-4 Senator have enough stagger-power to stagger stalkers?
>>492199571I'm a real GUARD DOG USER and I will tell you what this GUARD DOG SELLER won't! It will aggro EVERY SINGLE ENEMY around you, exactly like a rabid pitbull would do
>>492199882but will it maul the nigglets?
>>492199974It will mostly maul baby devastatorsIt's good as a stolen shared stratagem but I don't think it's worth over a red stratagem