RÜÜÜHL editionMarmoreal released:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1484940/Marmoreal/>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-58Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-57Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/subject/agdg/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous>>492047105
Would it kill you to not have the trip when posting the thread?
>>492116385Probably not. I'll leave it away, juste pour toi.
I read it as Skuvell. like a skull shovel.
>>492116518as for myself? I was too distracted by that giga hunk in the OP
>>492116604I'm a total hunk as well
>>492116685at least livestream while you gamedev, don't let all that beauty go to waste.
Stop being gay or the cock cyclops is going to show up to ruin your butthole
>>492116781Well, I'm going to put devlogs up. And... yeah, it's why I worry that many of my fans may very well be females at the start at least.
Fuck this. I'll start making a game. Ah. Now that I have announced it, it feels like I have accomplished something. I'll just start tomorrow.. yeah, that sounds right.
>he had no game this entirecalled it
>>492116385Trip fags can't go a minute without being the center of attention. What's worse is this new guy doesn't even make game. Faggygreen is an enginedev at least
>>492117068FROGGY WHAT THE FUCK!? I THOGUHT YOU WERE MAKING A GAME THIS WHOLE FRICKIN' HECKIN' TIME!?!!?!?ARE YOU SAYING THERES NO PUPPERINO BEING MADE CURRENTLY!?!?!
>>492117068enginedevs be like
>>492117130This guy IS FaggyGreen
>>492117068y-you don't have a game? I looked up to you...
>>492117108>>492117130I love you faggots in a non gay way. >>492117145I'm not the froggster
>>492117167Enginedevs rule this place thougheverbeit
>>492117281Too late Faggy, the jig is up. And you already know what gave you away
Do you have customers, or do you have fans?
>>492117361more like RUINhah!
>>492117273It's not you, it's me. But I hope we can still be frens. :)>>492117472I only have this tripcode. Too bad devs don't start tripfagging. Would stop subhuman trolls dead in their tracks.
>>492117920It'd cause more drama as devs would inevitably forget to take off their trips before crabbing and shitposting
>>492117920I assume most yesdevs are like me and wouldn't want to tripfag because we mainly come here to blow off steam and to say the shit that we can't say elsewhere.
>>492117920nigger you ARE the subhuman troll if your histrionic ass needs a username that badly just go to fucking reddit total tripfaggot death
>see game>last relevant game in its genre was released years ago>people clearly wanting more>play game to see what people liked about it>10 hours later>think the game is kinda shit>go read reviews>everyone is talking about stuff that clearly is only in their heads>people praising realism>game is not realistic>people praising open-endedness>game is linear10 hours wasted and I remain clueless. Fuck.
>>492117920devs can tripfagwhen they post progress, of their games, which you don't have
>>492118531post the fucking game asswipe, I hate vagueposters so goddamn much
>>492118531What game?
>>492118531You already solved it, moron. It's all about playing to the player's imagination. It's never about making a good game.
>>492117920I would forget to remove my trip when I'm crabbing my rivals
Why exactly are tripfags with no game allowed to speak?
>>492118819Shut the fuck up, pogodev.
Its shameful that yesdevs crab everyone ceaselessly and then blame the poor nodevs who are just here to learn
>>492118819I got banned for "trolling" for telling nodevs to fuck off and kill themselves. No one sided with me and a bunch of anons came out in defense of the nodevs. This is just what /agdg/ is now.
>>492119048>here to learnYou do that by starting a game. Do it now. You can become a yesdev today.
Reminder that you're not a yesdev until you release a finished game on Steam or another major platform
Hot take: itch.io is a major platform.
>>492119093>a bunch of anons came out in defense of the nodevs.What do you call a group of nodevs?(You)
>>492119492If it wasn't, then some of our biggest earners like madodev and auradev would be considered nodevs.
>>492118549nah, you and I, we both don't have a game, right?>>492118334>is the general's pet troll>unironically hates tripfagsyou're the monkey that doesn't know why it's beating the other monkey for trying to get the banana.
Reminder that you're a yesdev if you've posted your game and you're a nodev if you're a faggot pretending to have a game to argue in the gamedev general
>>492119632they earn money through patreon, not itch
>>492119286progress posters are yesdevs no matter the color of their skin.
>>492119093yesdevs have VPN's and don't complain about bans.
>>492119707they host the game on itch though
I don't think beginners should try and use full featured game enginesdebate me
You should be required to have 100+ reviews on Steam to be considered a yesdev
>>492119651everyone hates tripfagseveryone has always hated tripfags nearly everyone on this website who knows how filters tripfags so we don't have to see your incessant attention-seeking shitting up threads
>>492119807Debate on what? You didn't make an argument.
>>492119807sorry I can't debate you, I agree. start with klik & play or modern equivalent. Multimedia fusion? or Construct?
>>492119864agreed
>>492118610Yeah, but I dunno. I don't really know what I was expecting.I think I just keep hoping that /agdg/ is right, that you should make a good game and that that's enough, the game will sell itself and all that.But the more I research the more It seems all that really matters is audience and presentation.I didn't spent my skillpoints wisely, and having to respec after this many years is making me sad.I fell for the bait, man.
>worrying more about being a "yesdev" than a good game devThe absolute state of agdg.
>>492119864Make it 1000+, yesdev is for a privileged few. I'm a maybedev,, maybe I can pull this off.
3D devs should start with Unity then graduate to Unreal when they're ready for a real engine 2D devs should just use gamemaker or some shit
>>492119889case in point. merci beaucoupI don't want to understand your mental hang up on attention seeking, but I'm guessing you're projecting, since you're the subhuman crab who is a cunt to everyone.
>>492119728I'm on a residential IP, so I could just request a different one, but a 3 day hiatus from this cesspool does wonders for productivity. I'm more upset that in the time it took me to realize that I had gotten banned for a post, a bunch of nodevs started saying shit like how nodevs are the true heroes of gamedev because they're not flooding the market with more garbage, and no one else spoke up to refute them.
>>492120060> you should make a good game and that that's enough, the game will sell itself and all thatNobody says that. But making a good game is the first step and if you're not making a good game you may as well quit because otherwise you're trying to win a lottery
>>4921201562d devs should quit, 3d is the future. how am i gonna play your 2d game in fulldive VR? think nodevs ,think.
>>492120285with your hands on a ingame VR console
Marmo’s failure should be a warning to all who shitpost and failurepost here constantly. Especially the bocchiposters.
>>492120156>3D devs should start with UnityWhy wouldn't you start directly with UE? It's easier for artists and codelets.
>>492120106100+ reviews is closer to an objective metric of "good" than simply having released a game, otherwise yesdev is just a participation trophy and anyone can toss a 30 minute Unreal tutorial onto itch and qualify
Is it too late to reintroduce 1990's humor in video games?
>>492120436Explain what 1990's humor is to the zoomers.
>>492120353That's like a babies toy.
>>492120436>>492120436Lets be honest, you wouldn't have been funny in the 90s either...
>>492120381codelets should start here desu https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Games/Tutorials/2D_Breakout_game_pure_JavaScript
>>492120490It's like troon humor but instead of joking about feminine penises and men with big tits you joke about your own penis and women with big tits
>>492120156GameMaker has been ethnically replaced by Godot for 2D. Eventually Unity will suffer the same fate.
>OMG I HECKIN LOVE THE 90S!!! THAT'S THE DECADE ALL MY FAVORITE 90S CARTOONS FROM THE 90S ARE FROM!!!!!!
>>492120490>this made boomers literally evacuate their bowels while chortling uncontrollablyyeeep they don't make video game humor like they used to
>>492120808>Game Jam Games
>>492120808unreal bros... it's ok, our games are like AAA but not, we are better than those posers.
imagine spending 10 years making a game that was supposed to take 24 hours
>>492120643You're probably have a point.
>>492121173I can't believe we lost the game jam popularity contest...nooo.....
>>492121276I don't have to imagine. I live it.
>>492121172>>492121296How do you think most developers in this day and age get their start, retard?
Uh oh the cultists are working themselves into a frenzy again...
>>492120009Neither. Spend a few weeks learning Python or JavaScript with pygame/threejs for example those languages have better learning resources and are easier to learn fundamental coding concepts with. Then jump into coding with game engines. Ignore the tards who make sweeping comments about what tech stack is superior, they out themselves as narrow minded, beginner level devs when they do that. The right tool depends on the project. I've used unreal and unity for years, but now I mostly stick to godot. There are good reasons to use Unreal/Unity in some cases. Jobs/team projects/graphics/asset stores/licensing to name a few. It's up to the developer to pick the right tool for each job.
>>492121492Trump lost.
>>492121558>Trump lost.
>>492121634>>Trump lost.
When did you realize (if you haven't you will later) that 2D is truly the way?
>suddenly have a great idea>it's 3DIt's so over agdg.
When did you realize there hasn't been a single progress post in this thread
>>492121872And that's a good thing!
>>492121407no one worth a shit started with jamslop>b-but what about [game]? it sucks
>>492118663Even worse, I would forget to remove my trip when asking really stupid technical questions
>>492121872No time to make progress posts when demo day is only 9 days away. It's crunch time.
I'm here to talk about gamedev not to see some bits of a game that will never be completed
>>492121968Biggest nodev cope of the year
Progress: I refactored some of my animations from using AnimationPlayer+AnimationTree to Tweens with some randomized values and easing curves so that everything doesn't look the same. No, you may not see it.
I'm here to talk to gamedevs not faggot larpers with no game who piss themselves over the idea of talking about the game you're developing in the gamedev thread
Kinda weird how only one engine gets aggressively proselytized here while everyone else just does their thing
I'm here to talk about game dev and not piss myself over the fact that there's no heckin progressorino posts
>>492122294nice try bevydev, we know that's you
I'm here to eat macarogoni and cheebs
It's all coming together
>NOOOOO why do people in the game development general want to see game development instead of my retarded nodev shitposts????? you should kill yourself!
>>492122294>Kinda weird how only one engine gets aggressively proselytized here while everyone else just does their thing
I'm here to see retarded shitposts. I couldn't give less of a fuck about any of your games.
>>492122421This actually looks fun.
>>492122451You don't understand, you have to use [my engine of choice] to create [my preferred type of game] using [my preferred artstyle]
>>492122451what does Japanese cartoons have to do with that?
>>492122082prove her wrong then
>>492121548seems like that would lead to a lot of copypasting code rather than game design iteration.
>>492122520then fuck off to /int/ instead of trying to leech satisfaction from actual devs just because you're incapable of actually making a game yourself
this is just an advanced level of crabbing, hes trying to demoralize the nodevs before they even start making their game
>>492121735>be a 2d artist with a 3d idea>learn blender>make ok models but nowhere near the skill level of my 2dartat least my textures are nice
>>492122659The actual devs have all but fled, look around its just the usual crew of bottomfeeders with their usual attentionhungry memeposts that they spam in every single threadThey ought to just start tripfagging at this point
>>492122765Nodevs should stay nodevs and more yesdevs should become nodevs. There are too many games. There are too many devs.
>>492122765>the nodevs before they even start making their gameThat's not what a nodev means though
>>492122659>leech satisfactionFrom what? Shitposts? It's nodevs that want you to post progress for their satisfaction. I'm here to blow off steam because this jobby is stressful.
>>492122850they can graduate
>>492122421go get em tiger
>>492122765like those bootcamp drill instructors when they get right off the bus
>open AGDG>NO PROGRESS
>>492122889if you start making a game you were never a nodev at all, just a temporarily embarrassed yesdev actual nodevs are the retard niggers who hang around shitposting for years and cry over progress posts because seeing other people make games makes them feel inadequate
>>492119864that's a successful yesdev.
>>492123045bots can't post progress
>>492122786There are plenty of actual devs here, based on how quickly interesting technical questions get answered. That's the real /agdg/ content for yesdevs.
>>492123050those are neverdevs though
>>492122574>>492122912Thank you both for the kind words>>492123045You missed mine
>>492123050>cry over progress poststhats just other dev crabs trying to take out their competition
>>492120394you're like those faggots who gatekeep skateboarding saying you aren't a skater unless you can kickflip.Meanwhile everyone else is saying "you're a skater as long as your skating."You're a yesdev as long as you're devving. Who cares about releasing a game? make more.
>>492123332>you aren't a skater unless you can kickflipSeems fair
>>492123374if you played tony hawks pro skater youre a skater
I tried to clock in 12 hours on my game today, but I think I actually hit only about 10 hours of actual productivity. But going to keep at it. Just a few months ago working for 4 hours straight felt like an insurmountable goal. I wonder if I'll be able to hit the ideal 18 hours a day before the end.
>>492123451I had a dream where I skateboarded therefore I am a skater (I did kickflip in the dream)
>Win7>Decide to just give in an use FNA (because Unity and Godot and later versions of VS don't work)>Microsoft XNA had a really shitty content pipeline and there is actually no SpriteFont support in FNA>Have to make my own font drawing functions>againI almost have something interactive at least
>>492123460I would love to have that youthful energy again. Are you using any stimulants?
>>492123332gatekeeping is objectively good for hobbyist spaces (imagine how nice this general could be if nodevs were properly gatekept out) but the standard for being a yesdev should just be actively working on a game. doing a kickflip is simple as shit though if you can't do that you should honestly just give up on skateboarding
>>492123563why don't you just use raylib if you're gonna larp as an enginedev
>>492123548I had a dream like that but my body was made of glass and I was just too scared to do a kickflip. I did a tiny ollie and my ankle shat
>>492123605Coffee and Coca-Cola
the junkie is back
Should I post progress?
>>492123728*shattered
>>492123657Because it's C and also I have poor luck setting up environment shit>inb4 it uses some cancer NuGet shit tooI also don't have CMake
>uses win 7>is also stupidWas it ever a surprise?
Most devs who post progress use it as a means to get some instant gratification for their work, but this has negative long-term effects. Sakurai recommends against it, and I tend to agree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVnLW47cpFkIMO, "post progress" is another insidious form of crabbing. The ones encouraging it the most are nodevs looking to "leech satisfaction".
>>492124079Retard
>>492124079not reading your nodev cope make a game or fuck off
>>492123652i got a decent bag of tricks but kickflip isn't one. I'm a believer in do what comes naturally and fuck you for being a fag who overhypes the kickflip. there's tons of other tricks.
>>492124079Sorry but I only worship actual sophisticated genius Japanese auteurs such as Hideo Kojima and not some guy who made kirbyslop and some baby party game for babies
>>492122421Looks like it could be the start to something interesting.
At a crossroads with my 3D animated film. I hate the choppy Miles Morales 12 fps look but I must admit it would cover up a low of sloppy animation and save me thousands of hours in render time. Thoughts?
>>492124442a.i. for tweens
>>492124079unironically thisI told people about my game and showed some progress and lost all motivation shortly afternever again. not until it's nearly done
>>492124320Don't forget he also made that 3DS game that will break your hand.
>>492124506Why is every single bocchiposter like this
>>492124574These people relate to Bocchi. Nuff said.
>>492124502>a.i. for tweensthis
>>492122784why don't you do a course? Udemy has cheap ones at the moment.
>>492123870https://zig.news/kristoff/make-zig-your-c-c-build-system-28g5``just works''
>>492124502>>492124680>>492124502>AI interpolation sloppa No thank you. I was thinking of doing it at 18 fps but I'm an idiot and can't figure out how to render it that way.
>>492124320You're not a Kohima fan you've never played Boktai.
Why is half the thread shitposting and bucket of crabs, I'm posting on Reddit from now on
>>492125142progress posts are banned there
>>492125142If you were actually leaving you wouldn't make a post about it.
IvySly posted progress for Rocket Sword and never finished it. He didn't post progress for YOMIH and did finish it. Then, he started making and posting progress for that one game with the goblin girl with big hands throwing rocks, and guess what: he didn't finish it. Do what you will with this information.
>>492125017I dreamt that I played it
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.
enter a devship with me
Trainwiz posted progress for Underspace consistently for years and finished it, then met Todd Howard. Do what you will with this information.
>>492125613>and finished it
>>492125142I just checked reddit out of curiosity and having to post there would make me quit gamedev in 24 hours
>>492125354>He didn't post progress for YOMIH and did finish it.He did though. Found footage of the first build in like 2 minutes.https://x.com/ivy_sly_/status/1572922790352916482
>>4921256786 years and still not finished for>Gross revenue: $83.5k ($41.7k - $125.3k)or less than 1 year for>Gross revenue: $3.9m ($1.9m - $5.9m)Tough decision.
>100k profit for making a game I like or 5m profit for making some slop I'd never play yeah I'm taking the former
>>49212594210 years
What if there's no one-size-fits-all advice other than "make game"
The game is now scheduled to release on Newgrounds at 9:00am on Thursday and the soundtrack art is done. All that's left is a couple last minute music changes I'm waiting on my composer for. Thank you to all the anons who replied to my posts and followed the game's development. Even though it was a small project this felt like a huge step for me growing as a gamedev and I'm glad some people were interested in following my progress. You're all GMI
>tfw making progress on my loli game while agdg argues about whatever the hell they are arguing about rn
>>492126197>>exact mechanical clone of an old game>holy heckin' SOVL>>completely unique and original gameplay mechanic not found elsewhere>disgusting slopalso doesn't understand revenue != profit. why are nodevs so retarded?
>>492126287gratz!
>>492126769I don't care how "unique" a gameplay mechanic is, I simply could not give less of a shit about a 2D pixel fighting game
>>492126983Oh you're just retarded, alright. NTA but I'm glad you cleared that up. Could you change your name and mark all your posts so that I know never to consider anything you ever say?
Good morning AGDG
>NOOOOO you can't dislike a game I like!! Stop having personal taste and just agree with what my favorite youtuber told me to think already!!! assetjeet mindset
>>492126287I'm sorry, but that cd player looks like a chastity cage.
>>492127471hello, have a good progress today (my version of have a good day)
>>492127802Ara Ara, onii-chan you hentai
>>492127626This is a thread for gamedevs to discuss how to become better gamedevs. Go back to >>>/v/ to share your nodev personal opinions about video games.
>>492124747I kinda like my jank models. If I knew how to do it perfectly I'd be wasting all this time on stuff nobody notices.>oh the shading is a little crooked there, I'll just adjust the autosmooth angle 0.5%I might do a course though...
>>492127971holy projection
>>492127260If you're making a 2D pixel game in 2024 you're basically telling the world you have no imagination or ambition. It's not cute. It's not quirky. It's "I'm too lazy to make a real game." Technology has evolved to the point where solo indie devs can make AAA 3D graphics, realistic or stylized, and here you are with your bloop bloop shit like it's 1999. Fuck you.
i focused too hard and for too long while working on art. i have a headache now, probably eyestrain caused>>492116783>cock cyclopskek
>>492127983>oh the shading is a little crooked there, I'll just adjust the autosmooth angle 0.5%This is called having standards and making a good game that will sell.
>>492119864..uh pogo you only have 86
>>492119864everyone with 1000+ review gets a star next to "Anonymous" to signify they are a successful dev>>492120808Godot needs several more years before I can confidently consider it and that's if they do a good job
GM frensAll yesdevs rise upTODAY WE WILL GET SHIT DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>492120808Now pull up the states on game engines used for games published on Steam in 2024. If only I could sort it by year, it'd be interesting to see the data.
>>492128967*takes a fat dump*I've done my part!
>>492129048
>>492128586well, I'm not stopping doing that, but I do wonder what I'd be adding to that tweak stack if I only knew...
>>492119093>nowI've always defended nodevs. And Monolithdev did too.
>>492122838This except for a few I'm okay with becoming gamedev. The majority though, I'd rather they never make a game and the total amount of games releasing on steam yearly is no more than 3650 games.That'd be nice. 10 games releasing on average every day.
>>492122421simple game but entertained me>>492123045whodev here. i like hanging out here but i do like seeing others games. such as above
>>492122421What's next on the design list?>>492123548I had a few dreams where girl genuinely liked me back and showed it very obviously in their behavior towards me. Guess that mean's I'm not ugly anymore :^) ;_; I hope gamedev gets me a pretty gf
>>492123460I can't track my hours well. The slightest thing that doesn't feel like gamedev and I stop the clock. Almost turned it off earlier because I was just making minor adjustments and felt like I already had the winning design. Only for a better design to come about eventually. At 2+ hours for "today">when tracking dev time a day counts as from the time i wake up and get out of bed to when i go to bed for real
>>492129320>>492129539IDGAF about regular consumers. My problem is when uneducated and uninformed retards like you come to destroy one of the few gamedev focused spaces. Anyone who's is seriously trying to make a commercial video game product has put in an insane amount of time and effort and you are disrespecting that. If you have no intention of making video games, then stop trying to insert yourself in gamedev communities.
autism
>>492126197i'll take the latter. then i can work on whatever i want without having to worry about whether it'll do well nor ever having to wage nor my family waging either
>>492124079Sakurai works in a professional team. He not only gives and receives a constant stream of back and forth feedback, he also gets actual financial compensation for what he does. A solo dev gets neither by default.
https://youtu.be/hW5s5Wb5vo4
The vercel isn't accurate...It says Marmo is at 6 reviews...
>>492127471Hi Marmie, what's on the agenda for today?>>492129235Huh didn't see that option when I looked lemme take a second look. Hmm I don't have that option. Ugh it's one of those "it's available but only if you go via this specific page"link?
>8 days to DDAt least there's a three day weekend coming up, haha...
>>492127471morning! time for breakfast.
>>492130665is that trello? what's it like i'm considering using the free version but idk how much it'd limit me. right now i just have notes on my phone and pc
>>492130452is this an ad for breach wizards? I love you tom.
>>492130665I'm starting a Trello board now. Thanks anon
>>492131749>>492132130Yeah Trello is super nice for organizing todo lists. The free version restricts you from things like timelines and dashboards but at the same time it's literally just me on this thing, the basic board is more than enough.
>>492132426there's a staggering amount of projects that fail or turn out shit and delayed to hell because someone thought project maangement isn't that necessary"yeah i don't need a kanban or git for this small thing here", no, you absolutely do. trust me.
>>492133187even post-it notes are better than nothing
code the rules, script the exceptions
I hate making enemy AI, so I'm just going to script it all in a huge if else statement, accounting for everything, like the big bois.
>>492134819>enter a state>if something happens if this state, enter another statewhat's so difficult about that?
>>492135102Oh my god, just stop, anon. I was already annoyed before, now I find out, that I've to add geography in the mix? God, I hate enemies.
>>492124079Progress posts should be update logs. You get all the satisfaction of posting your progress while it boosts your downloads/buys because now there's new content for players.The type of posts Sakurai is against are what you post exclusively for subscribers because it shows you are making progress between updates. Posting them for free, publicly is what Sakurai says not to do and he is correct.
>state machine schizo still at it
>>492135102a state is just a condition in an if else
I want to make a game.
>>492136128no it isn't
>>492136184why not?
>>492136225what do you mean why not? it just isn't, that's like asking why isn't a pear an apple.
>>492136279it is though?
>>492136317sure is anon, good on you
do you guys even make games?
i seriously dont see what the difference is between a "state" and a condition in an if elsesurely to enter that "state" you are checking the condition in the first placewhy not cut out the middleman
>>492136580im trying (failing hard)
>>492136591because then there's no state
Do you have all characters in one blend file to adjust sizes? do you start creating them in the massive file, then copy to a new file when you want to export it?do you need the massive file at all?what about a massive file for environmental assets? is that a thing?
>>492136580yeah simple games like pong, asteroids, breakout and other arcade classics. That's about all I'm capable of and I can only do it with tutorials and I've been doing gamedev for 7 yearseven 10 years from now I don't think I'll be capable of more then that, my brain just ain't that smart.
>>492136591okay i'll bitebecause a state machine isn't checking conditions all the time, and if you wanted to be extreme, you technically don't need conditionals at all to change statesin a state machine you have a state and the machine persists in that state, period. there's no conditions to check, it's just in a state. you can have conditionals to switch states (and oftentimes you do), but it's not mandatory - you could switch on collision, after some time passed, on triggers, event callbacks, etc
Small challenge: trying to make my stuff run on my old-ish phone.It can, with 4k units instead of 40k, and only if you never zoom in 'cause anything but the highest LOD will be too many polygons.I also discovered that I fucking hate developing for mobile.
>>492136851lets say you have an "IDLE" state thoughhow is that different from just checking if velocity == 0 in your big if else
>>492136591My state machine implementation is meant to be used with ECS. It does a lot of nice things, and helps with organization of code. For one, it adds/removes a marker component automatically, which then enables/disabled specific systems. Really useful
>>492137073>how is doing things this way different from doing things in a different wayare you an idiot?
>>492137191sure if you take it literallybut is there a meaningful difference
I want to make a game that's my take on what a modern Ragnarok Online would be like.
I'm going to revisit this guy's state machine after finalizing simpler enemies'. It gets surprisingly complex.Adding in hits & stuns will probably change things up, too.
>>492137543can you code my enemies in godot...
>>492137408tree of saviour came close, they nailed the artwork but failed at everything else. Anyway good luck with your MMORPG as your first project.
>>492137227yesit's much better for readabilityyou decouple the behaviour from the entity, which means you can just have the same state on whatever entity that needs it - so it's easier to reuse codeif you have an entity that is stateful you can reasonably expect things from it, like events or, well, a state - but also fields that are tied to the statei'm inclined to say they're more performantit's easy to add a new state, because they're separate entitiesi'll argue it's easier to maintain and switch statesand so on and so forthhowever, if your game has entities with like 100 lines of code, then it's a moot discussion. an enemy that can stand around, attack and die doesn't need a state machine, just like a script that writes shit to a database every other hour doesn't need an ORM
What's the best tool to do tiled repeating textures if I don't want to use photoshop? I want my drawing to render outside the canvas.
>>492137868>if I don't want to use photoshopagainst your religion?
>>492132426What are timelines and dashboards?>>492136580Uhh yeah. I was working on icons needed for UI to showcase the special scenarios. Was in the bathroom earlier when in an instant I saw the design within my mind. It was beautiful. Sadly I'm not talented enough to copy it anywhere near as beautiful as I saw. That and the image began to fade somewhat. Overall a mild boost to my art skills as I finally made something that looked decent, like one of the games I played long ago. Sadly the next UI piece is quite lacking.
>>492138128yes adobe are massive jews and I don't pirate software
>>492137868problably some material generators, can't remember the names now, quixel something something, shadermap, you can google themalso that pixelart thing can do tiling iirc
>>492138281ty
>>492136963Touch controls are cancer. Only things good to play on mobile is shit like Slay the Spire.
>>492136580I just did (it flopped)
>>492139594will my game flop too?
>>492139687yes
everyone are simping for nolgorb's and wabbaboy's vertex color styleI should just take that pill, it's easier and popular.
it's good because he's good at modeling fast and animating thoughbeitit's not easier or he would have a whole game
>>492140146nolgorb has literally almost finished work on his ordeal, he said so in the discord
>>492137543He's a dynamic little fella! Like a boss fight for a mouse.
should I buy a bluetick on X to shill my games? does it work?
>>492138239>I don't pirate softwarecuck
I'm having self doubts as to whether or not certain genres could still be fun like turn-based games since I sometimes hear it's "outdated" format. But then you suddenly get games like Core Keeper getting over 27,000 reviews despite checking all the boxes for one of the most saturated genres ever. That having survival elements like crafting, pixel art etc.
>>492138685Can confirm, my fat fingers randomly drop input (which is why I'm double-tapping movement orders in that video, single tap is normally enough but sometime not because fuck you). I should also have made the icons at least 50% bigger than they were in the PC, they were a bit impractical to tap quickly there.Worst part was to have a completely separate input-handling script tho. I hate having two classes doing the same shit, but touch controls are just different enough from mouse clicks that you can't really translate the control scheme 1-to-1.Second worst part was that the editor is fucking useless at letting you guess what will actually be displayed and how well it will perform. So much tiny details in a shader/material can tank your framerate completely on the actual phone while the editor in android mode has no problem with it. Also got an insane amount of shit simply not displaying at all, although that's was probably specific to the BatchRendererGroup API being already finicky in a normal situation.So yeah, I hate mobiledev.
>>492141232>Core Keeper getting over 27,000 reviewsThey got tweeted about by the official Palworld account for some reason.Considering the amount of fags who played that game at some point, that was as close to a marketing holy grail as you can get for an indie.
>>492141232Don't mess fun with market potentialThat said turn-based is great As long as you're not making a platformer you should be fine really
>>492141232Only zoomers think turn-based games can be outdated.
Was looking to my friends's links on discord and saw that my mate from uni released a game on steam early this year. It's a simple and casual game. Looked into his linkedin and aparently he ain't working anymore as a dev. Went to his Steam profile and there are comments like "rest in peace" from early this month.Grim.I'm scared to ask the other people from my class to see if they know something.
>>492141861A literal mario clone got 500 reviews this month
>>492142053>500thats nothing
>>492141232How do I find women like this (preferably through gamedev)
>>492142053I knwo it was me who posted little gay fox gameMedian revenue for platformers is still abysmal thoOut of the top 20 /agdg/ games three are acecombat-likes and a bunch of them are roguelikesGenre matters sadly
>>492142053You mean the one with the lesbian fox girls?Hmmm I wonder why that could be
>>492141861they don't call it turn'based' for nothing.
>>492142053Oh man which one?https://youtu.be/nn7H5GBEge4?si=iwnCDwwRMONyDa8v
>>4921412324chan is turn based with ability cooldowns
>>492142410>lesbian fox girls?You have my interest.>it's pic relatedOk, I sincerely doubt that played much in it getting 500 reviews.I'm a chronic masturbator who is into /u/ and beastgirl, but I can't fap to this shit.
>>492142286Build an image on social media, right now you are invisible.For every normie girl on tiktok and tinder there's a nerdy girl on discord and in games.
>>492142643get your mind out of the gutter
>>492142682>For every normie girl on tiktok and tinder there's a nerdy girl on discord and in gamesRetard
What's going on with Marmoreal, was it a let down with only 17 reviews? Idu what a pre-release is and why one would do it.
>>492142865You're the retard if you find fault with that statement
>>492141232>Core Keeperwish i knew how steam algorithm works, its been advertising this trash to me for days
Was yesterday some special day? A lot of games released out of EA like Core Keeper and Peglin.
>>492143070Marmoreal Success Breakdown>80 sales (confirmed by dev)>80*13 = 1040> steam 30% cut -300 >sweden 50% income tax -350>net profit: $350>he still owes way more than that to the guy that made all of his 3D models (you didn’t seriously think he did that himself right?)All in all, he spent 10 years to make $300, or $30 per year. According to agdg, this is a resounding success
>>492143648there was a nintendo indie direct
>>492142770>>492142643>>492142053Anyone here capable of modelling low-poly-ish sexy lesbian fox girls? I might have a commission for... reasons.
>>492142770>>492142643>Add fetish>Make it uglyAlso>Article making inclusion of fetish seem like it's braveYuri is the equivalent of a double cheeseburger, nothing brave or revolutionary about it.
>>492142682Ok, will do. When I find my NEET gamedev gf I promise we'll name our first child Anonthony in memory of this advice that led to us meeting.
>>492143824But I love double cheeseburgers
>>492143861>NEET game dev gf You do know all terminally online girls are raging leftists with ugly tattoos, piercings, and blown out vaginas right? I hope you’re ready to go to Kamala Harris support rallies
>>492143252They wouldn't be normies if they weren't a majority you retard
>>492143824>Yuri is the equivalent of a double cheeseburger, nothing brave or revolutionary about it.The entire lesbian sexuality has been coopted by MTF transgenders, so in the eyes of the games journalist it's stunning and brave by association.
I just don't feel like it...
>>492143764nobody called it a success
>>492143764>According to agdg, this is a resounding successsource?
>>492144067Another wave of election tourists already? I guess it is that time of year for the Americans. Welcome to our humble little website.
>>492144148ah so you got all upset and cried like a bitch because I used the word "normie" incorrectly which is a highly subjective word I might add. What a waste of time talking to you, find a rope and hang yourself.
>>492144228Yes they did>>492144271agdg threads
>>492144067Neet japanese gamedev gf who can't speak english
Lighting engine progress is progress
>>492144303I know most of you are brown third worlders, do you feel honored to be in the presence of a White man?
>>492143764Still not as pathetic as Blunderspace
>>492142682wrong
>>492144373quote one post claiming its a resounding success
>>492144451Rent free LMAO
>>492143764I disagree, Marmoreal might get one or two boot lickers here and there but he is the least divisive game of agdg, since it seems we all have a bone to pick with him or just dislike him.The bocchi posting didn't help his case.
Why is the thread so unusually shit this morning?
Guys what’s the problem? If you need a gf just click on the ad on this page there’s a girl looking for an older BF right now, she looks friendly and is waiting for your message!
>>492144534Problem trainwiz? Did I say something factual to upset you?
>>492141318So are you dropping mobile then? Some RTS thing seems bad for it anyway.
>>492144594i don't frequent these threads - is the person bocchiposting the same person that made marmoreal?
>>492144594Marmo himself kept coping about how he didn’t have any expectations so now he isn’t disappointed and it isn’t actually a failure. Pathetic
>>492144438it's too obviously shaped like a penis anon
>>492144613Wahhhhhh my thwead isn’t da way I wike it to be wahhhhh suck it up little faggot Daddy is here and he means business
>>492144613>shitI don't see cris or a million bocchis or loli pedos what makes it bad to you
MARMOOOOOOO what major things do you need to do to get Marmoreal to full release? Has your mother suspected anything yet?>>492142682I hope this is true. I already screwed up dropping the cute (i think she was cute cant remember her face all that well anymore) female friend I made on Steam
>>492143764in 100 years no one will remember your namebut they will remember marmoreal
>>492144641Trainwiz chills with Todd Howard and made a lot of money, you are a NEET incel living in momma’s basement (likely in the third world)
>>492144698I'm disappointed and it's a failure, but the writing was on the wall years ago. I'm just on stage 5 acceptance now.
now you finally understand why I never included Marmoreal in any "GMI agdg games" list
>>492144846>>492144505There you go retard
>>492144853Sorry trainwiz I was responding to a post about resounding flops that took 10 years to make and your game naturally came to mind
But guys, Marnix (from BiteMe Games) said that Marmoreal was professional quality and could get easily hundreds of reviews! How could he have been so wrong? I get all my game dev and marketing advice from him!
>>492144914I accept your concession.
>>492144659Too many bocchi posters to tell which one is exactly marmo and it doesn't help that they all behave the same. Marmo isn't disliked because one or two things he is just the town idiot that doesn't even fight back, higher than the likes of cris, but that isn't saying much.
>still procrastinatingit's so hard being the artist is so hard it's like being the guy in the group project that does all the work and gets none of the credit I'll kill the programmer if we're successful and steal his part of the revshare
>>492144613Marmoreal released. This happened after Underspace released, after ITN released, after Roody2D released, etc. All of the lurking crabs who come here to larp as game devs come crawling out of the woodwork. Fortunately their attentions spans only allow it to last a few days.
>>492144438fucking nice anon
>>492144451Marmoreal has 17 reviews for about ~100 sales (because most people who bought it are aggydaggers who feel bad for the fat fuck)Underspace had around 60 reviews by that time which corresponded to a lot lot more real sales (most real people who buy games don't leave reviews)you're comparing apples to oranges. Marmoreal is and always will be just a pathetic inner circle pet project
>>492145140>2 posts downchecks out
>>492145006lmao another hit to the BiteMe street credif anybody was having any doubts this should have been their wake up call
>>492137570Read about state machines. Everything will fall in to place from there.>>492140485I'm copying Gundam for inspiration, of course, but the monoeye & proportions definitely make him pleasingly expressive & dynamic like you said. Hopefully I can keep this up for everything.
>>492145278I'm right tho
>>492145324Reminds me of Mega Man.
>>492145157i'm an aggy dagger but i bought it because i genuinely like it, it was not a pity purchase.elsa best girl
>17 (Positive)>look inside>a bunch of /agdg/ regulars
>blender is free>start learning from their website>they require paying for a subscription after 3 videos>free
>>492145075thanks anon, that explains a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98k3PEhNVnAthis video opened up my eyes. the reason i'm not motivated to make games is because i'm not utilizing my masculinity. there's no energy in making cozy farming sims and other gay ass games. the reason oldfag devs made so many games is because they utilized their masculine nature and focused on what's fun for men without even thinking about it.ofc as a man you aren't motivated to make that cozy farm sim or that cute kids game or other "cozy" shit.you need to make games with strong men with muscles, war, guns, explosions, vandalism, hot women, cars, violence, darkness, robots etc. etc.when i was a child i played with toy soldiers, dinosaurs, watched wrestling and loved kane and undertaker, i watched dragonball, i played command n conquer. all that shit was cool, dark and violent. this is male nature.this fucking gay ass industry got me all confused.it's time i also care about gender identity and get in tune with my masculinity.
>>492145652>go on youtube>thousands of free tutorialswhy gimp yourself
>>492144645>are you dropping mobileThis was always a PC first project. Console maybe. Mobile, *very* maybe.After that quick test, Mobile got demoted to "probably not" - or if I do it would have to be a different game, maybe a spin-off that use sprites like Populous 3 did. In any case making a phone-compatible version was at the bottom of the to-do list, but now it's not even on the list anymore.
>>492145719transcoded post?
>>492145719now you understand why I hate all the tranime games here
>>492144384I wish I had this....
>>492145917no i'm 100% honest. i always thought thinking about masculinity is just some contrarian shit against homosexuality. but i start to think it's actually really important to embrace masculinity or otherwise you are confused as hell about your motivations and intentions.
>>492145719>as a man you aren't motivated to make that cozy farm simsays who?
gonna make it INTO A GRAVE
Every single review on marmoreal is from an /agdg/ anon, you can tell by their review histories.
>>492145719When I open my game studio I will only hire developers like you
>>492144451Underspace went on to sell fairly well didn't it? Maybe not on a per year basis but not bad? Like 100k?
>>492145719>unironically using "satanic"lollmao
Ok I'll dev, because you all asked me to.
>>492145719>as a man you aren't motivated toi'm gonna give you a piece of advice as a 40+yo manas a man, i'm motivated to do any fucking thing that i want to do. that's it. there's no discussion, i don't have to explain myself. i am a man and i can do whatever the fuck i want. wanna put up a shed? go for it. wanna rebuild car engines? be my guest. wanna make anime jrpgs? don't give a fuck, you do you.the domain of man isn't about doing specific things. it's about dedicating yourself to your craft and perfecting it and yourself through it.
>>492146405He hasn’t sold a single copy to a normal person, genuinely so grim. Steam is rightfully suppressing his game
>>492146615you type like a fat sweaty troon
>>492146191sure, I guess that makes sense to lean into what drives members of your sex.
>>492145719synthetic man if he less dimwit and nazi
>>492145719i'm a girl and i make hyper masculine games i love men and their masculine wiles, besides i already have enough cuteness and femininity in my life
>>492145719Farming and building an economic empire is based but I see your point overall. And I'm making a game that is highly masculine.
>>492145719when i see skull masks like that i don't think "that guy's really masculine", i think "that guy looks like a favela monkey manchild"
>>492146645too bad i'm a married family manyou're welcome to be salty about it though
>>492145157>>492146405>>492146637Marmo(is not)realthe Inner Circle is real
>>492145631I noticed this as well. At least he got a lot of frenly support
>>492146695You are biologically male
>>492146637I wonder if he did much marketing. I feel like his game should have gotten more attention than it is currently getting. It looks fun enough.
>>492146695There are no girls on agdg. post your tampon packet timestamped.
sorry all my progress is just tweaking numbers
>>492146695tits or gtfo
>>492146842He spammed Reddit and Twitter for months. “Fun enough” isn’t what makes a game sell well. A game has to be good, uniquely fun, polished and professional
>>492146842>his game should have gotten more attentionaccording to what? The feefees in your tummy?
>>492146761Exactly. I avoid games that are a 12 year olds idea of masculinity. Even GTA really really pushes it with their retarded dialog and characters. But that's how trash people are so it's semi realistic.
>>492146695....why do i get the feeling i know which dev you are
>>492146830i despise troons.>>492146845>>492146930already posted both of those things before on this website to prove a point not making that mistake again
How does your character rig compare to the GOATs?
>>492146842Maybe he could lean into the anime angle and get more art commissioned. memes. tiktok videos showcasing the girls personalities etc. use a voice changer, make them vtubers playing other games and silly stuff like that.
>>492147023I never would’ve guessed that the asset flip survivors clone dev was a woman but the mental breakdown from yesterday makes sense now
>>492147023>troon despises himselfstop the presses
>>492145719this nigga struggling with the fact he gets aroused looking at other men in the gym
>>492146963The quality and level of polish. Maybe he needed a more defined hook, a reason to play passed game play itself and anime girls. Idk, just interesting to think about.
>>492147126What an idiot, that model is useless with all the purple lines sticking out of it. Are those artifacts of AI generation?
>>492147304this is why I'm never listening to you dumb fucks about anything. You saw that the game is getting a lot of attention and you saw that the game is in the top rows of DD and you thought "oh that must mean the game is polished and good!!"Literal woman mentality. Follow the herd
492147023I just want to know if a fellow girl is actually here or just larping. >posts photo of moms tamponsshit.
>>492147441You forgot your cat picture
>>492147215I don’t even know who or what you’re talking about
HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED WHICH TWO DEMO DAY DEVS ARE WOMEN
>>492147441Anon you're just a fucking faggot. The game has good qualities, I'm not saying it deserved to sell millions, I put 5 seconds of effort into watching a clip of it like 6 months ago. I'm sick of you negative mother fuckers thinking you're smart. My game with have 100 times the depth, I have a marketing plan in mind, a target audience that is under served and hungry for more, I can think of a 1000 ways his game could have been better. I'm just saying I've seen similar quality games do fairly well, so I'm reflecting on what exactly went wrong/right. You fuckers need to be so intense about everything because you're FUCKING GAY AND YOUR GAMES SUCK
>>492147727shhhhh :3
>>492147838Stop replying to the attention seeking nodev you mouth breather. Have some self control. Close this tab and go work on your game.
make a space colony sim, but it's all surrogate cyborgs preparing the planet for humans to follow.
>>492147838Marmo, honey, go to bed. Your game was shit and it took you 10 years, but I’m sure you learned a lot of lessons like how to 3D model, unless you farmed that out to a bunch of Indians, then yeah I guess you learned nothing
>>492147727please dont out me >w<
>>492147978Embarrassing.
>>492147978Did he really use fiverr assets?Extremely sad if true.
>>492147838retard
I was looking up saveslot UI inspo and saw this. how is this legal?! I'm outgunned and outraged.
>>492148060>>492148145He admitted that he didn’t make a single 3D model in the game and the reason he is still in the red despite netting $350 (after ten years of work) is because he owes money to the 3D modelers
what happened to this kino
>>492148275Tranny dev so probably 41% I fear
>>492148275They post on /rlg/ now.
Kino settings for a classic RTS?>Medieval/FantasyThis is the obvious choice but I would like something with more missiles
>>492148241So he admitted to being able to delegate tasks to others. So fucking what. You're still a retard.
>>492148215>how is this legalhow is it illegal? did someone somewhere pass a vidya save slot bill i don't know about?
>>492148241Pathetic.
>>492145719who actually watches this shit
>>492148439Mentally ill leftists unironically.
>>492148439brown zoomers
>>492148391>someone else makes the music>someone else makes the models>someone else makes the art>still cope and call it “your” gameSomething is not adding up!
yeah I can say with 99% certainty that I just figured out two of the female aggydaggies. I am never taking feedback from you uppity cunts again
>>492148372Rocket League General?
>>492148640Obviously it’s azurdev and the asset flip survivors dev
>>492148393I mean 'permissible'. I would have thought some stores might not let you do this sort of predatory stuff.
>>492147978dipshits like you are exactly why I wouldn't post a project here. The irony is, the more you trash talk real developers, the more you expose yourself as a wannabe dev. Any hard-working person knows better than to tear someone down, they understand sacrifice too well to do it. Keep sucking shit poser.
>>492148640The beans, lad. Spill em.
>>492148658The other one
i need to shill but i have nothing new and dont want to just post old shit and say its new
>>492148748you mean stores like steam? maybe, maybe not, i am not well versed in itbut this kind of jewery is common now
I have a call with an interested publisher in an hour, I'm so nervous.
is there an a publisher that just shills for me and then doesnt take money out of my game out of the goodness of their heart... AHHH WHAT AM I SAYIN' publishers are evil theyd never help lil old me
>>492148625Ya so it's like every other industry/activity. Fucking retard.
>>492148731>>492148814I can't tell you because I think this place is too far gone and it deserves to be infested with vaginas at this point so if I told you you would spook them off which might fix the general and I can't have thatBut looking at their games it really makes me wonder if women are even human
>>492148807Relax
>>492148241I did make most models, I just commissioned square for the main girls, two of the more complicated boss designs and a base with head/hair models for the rest so I could make their outfits on my ownAll the regular enemies and terrain stuff is mine
>>492149431MARMO YOU ARE NOT A TEENAGE TRANIME GIRL WITH PINK HAIR AVATARPOSTING IS A BANNABLE OFFENCE
Bros my Huion comes today. I can start sketching out the first town I'm making. Guess I'll keep thinking up quests and characters and whatnot for it while I wait. Get ready to see some down right fanciful sketches.
>>492145719When I was a kid I watched Tokyo Mew Mew and played Wedding Peach games...Maybe I shoud make a feminine-maxed game.
>>492145719>arrrgh games are gay aargh something something mark of the beasthow does this literal who's video have a million views?
>>492148807whatever fag if I posted my game here you'd literally be the first one to gleefully shit on it lmao. holier than though hypocritical retard
>>492148625>I make-a the models>I make-a the rigs >I make-a the animations >I make-a the shaders >I make-a the textures >I make-a the voice acting >...I no make-a the music>...I no make-a the sound effects LET'SA GOOOOOOOO *hangs self*
>>492149551He's a teenage girl with pink hair in my heart
>>492149734because he's right
i dont get minecraft, basically theres nothing to do.at least in older versions it didnt take long to get all of the stuff you need. but now with the new caves it's nothing to do but also more grindy.
>>492149431Congrats again on the $30 per year revenue stream, this is what you get for shitting on my game every time I posted it (you know what you did)
>>492149734If it wasn't for Jews banning everyone the entire internet would be right wing fanatics because right wing fanatics are the only ones using logic. His question of "Why does Star Wars need to be gay" is a good fucking question to ask. But he doesn't get a voice to ask that because of Jews. So until his youtube also gets banned he'll get popular because humanity is naturally drawn towards truth in a time of chaos and lies. Does that answer your question you fucking fag or do you really think there's a deep hunger for Tranny Wars?
>>492149797>there's nothing to do>there's grinding to doPick one
>>492149931He shitted on my game too every time I posted it. What an asshole
>>492149734Observe how the tranny recoils. >Why are you talking about this?>Who cares?>You don't have the adequate number of subscribers to have an opinion>etc etc People are fucking sick of you. DEI is over.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1XN411K7rg/https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nP411q7cE/use bilibili to find tutorials
it's so fucking over
>>492149658have you drawn digitally before? If not it'll be a few years before you figure it out
>>492149931NTA but lol, imagine being this butt hurt.
>>492150113nice malware hosting site loser, not clicking that
>>492150097cringe
>>492150161>"nooooo youre not allowed to remember the ones who put you down noooo you have to buy their game even when they are a piece of shit to everyone noooo"?
>>492150171HOLY FUCKING BASED
>>492150113I use bilibili to find reference videos of cute girls dancing for my game
>change number from -15 to -18>game immediately feels better
Marmanus never played my demo or acknowledged my existence during my 4 years here. I'm not buying troonmoreal
>>492150171>Russia imports 100 million muslim and african immigrants to ethnically replace their own population>Russia goes into Ulkraine claiming to want to exterminate nazis>Right wing grifters: "Russia is so based!"How did we get here?
>>492150332How about you make a good game instead of following some school shooters arch and decent into madness.
>>492143764Sweden has a 52% income tax if you're earning at least about 60k usd or sois marmo making that much?
>>492150524Ukraine is led by a jew. That mathematically make it worse than a country led by "only" a shabbo goy.
Is he a fine example why you should not stay in dev hell for years?
>>492150524Putin strawmanning. >Look, a pride parade! Even though most people in the west have never even seen one, yet alone experience any more 'pride' than some rainbow flags on the road or hung up by corpos, or shit movies that were going to be shit anyway being shit in a pozzed wayI just wish people would make good games.
Shove-a-Puck progress.I have been working on a banner for itch (mostly as an excuse to practice some art). Also working on the karaoke ending. Added more timings to the song and making the characters mouth open on time.
>>492150828He's a fine example of why being circlejerked by a bunch of faggots in a closed community is no metric for actual success
how are the boat dev's going?
>>492150741>Vladimir Shelomova-Putinhmm, yes, very gentile
>>492143764How many wishlists did he have when he released the game?
>>4921510561800
>>492149979i agree with the general message but the video is retarded
>>492150919next you'll tell me that being a meme on the internet doesn't land you jobs
>>492151094fuck mine doesnt even come close to half of that I am cooked.
>>492151105You agree the antichrist is coming (through lame characters in videogames or something) and russia is based but also please buy STALKER?
>>492147126youtube really does shill videos to the same "type" of peopleI saw it reccommended yesterday.What's the name of the planetary defense laser retro game? where you shoot lasers at incoming asteroids from a dome in the bottom center.
>>492150741>>492150883>imports 100 million muslims and africans to ethnically erase Whites and White culture>"LET PUTIN SO BAAAZZEDDDD XDXDDX!!!!"
>>492150828>>492150919>>492151113when will you whippersnappers learn
>>492150883Fucking freak.
Marmo should go on tiktok cry about how Wukong took the spotlight from his game and that solo indie devs struggle
>>492151370cope, having a following on agdg is the number 1 predictor of a game's success on steam. if your progress posts here get ignored or crabbed it means your game sucks and you should quit
It's now possible to place windows with the object tool. Looking at the webm I'm not 100% satisfied with how I rotate objects.
>>492151370True but with marmo and underspace out of the picture what else is left? next DDs are looking rather grim
>>492151617I'm still here...
>>492151440
>>492146637But I bought it, so at least one sale is to a normie.
>>492151579>hero posts progressbasedI'm curious about the swimming pool and ladders.Or ovens and carpets.
>>492151510are you disconnected from reality? Marmoreal flopped
>>492151579not bad, it's really starting to look like sims 1 now
>>492144438i don't like the high framerate and bouncy animations and the mouse direction shooting
>>492151617Landsword is the only actual GMI game on here
>>492151832Landsword is the next Marmoreal you stupid troon
>>492150898I want to fuck alien girl
>>492151776Marmoreal made thousands of dollars, enough to fund future developments or release more games. How is that a flop? Post your steam game with hundreds of sales? Oh wait......
>>492151579How do you even do something like this? Realtime booleans? Looks great.
>>492151440>willies willies, I love willies!
>>492146615Based.
>>492151920Marmoreal doesn't have even 100 sales
How do I stop caring about what other people think or might think about my work. It's way too much and is crippling me.
I'm just gonna give up again. Shit takes way too much time for very little reward if any
>>492145324>Read about state machinesi tried...>Everything will fall in to place from thereit didnt...
>>492151482a documentary on the development could pick up a few more sales. When did you guys realize you were all ulillillia? I only found out I was recently.
>>492152086get a bigger ego
You guys suck and I'm GMI
>>492145719You are a fucking retard.t. 35yo, married, 2kids, own a house, love anime, have collection of figurines, play female chars in mmo's.
Question, can Steam achievement names be inappropriate?For example if I made a racing game could I call the achievement for completing the game "certified racist" or would the steam jannies get pissy?
For a lesson in the importance of sound effects, watch this webm (no sound) and then check out the original here. https://x.com/Dragonloop_xi/status/1828325172253991115
>>492152539kek thats terrible, it sounds like playing candy crush or something
>>492145719>"g-guys i need to make le violent game because that's le masculine!!!">has never had sex and will die a virginlmaooo
>>492152465gay ballbusted domesticated nigga
NGL I dont want to release the game any time soon because if I release and it doesnt sell well I will most likely drop out of game dev as a hobby. I now understand Bokus sentiment
>creative block>watch one lap of frosty village from diddy kong racing>instantly know what to make (frosty village from diddy kong racing but you can explore it)Just think back to all those stages and skyboxes of places you really wanted to go but the game didn't let you and make those places yourself so you can go there.
>>492152446You guys rock and I'm GMI.
>>492152525south park has an achievement called "ass of fire", so i'd say you should be fine
>>492152235State machines prevent having to pass in bool values all over the fucking place. It is a tremendous help. But if you're in love with needless complexity don't use it. If you want a simple and effective state machine look up the state machine used in the "Make pokemon in Unity" tutorial, around video 90 or something they implement a super simple one.
>>492152539HAHAHAHAHAHHAHH WAHT THE FUGGG
>>49215207217 reviews * 30 sales per review = >4000 dollars, retard
>>492152525I don't know but they will.
can someone do all the art for my 2d 320x240 jrpg for free
>>492152539wow. you have no taste at all if that was supposed to be good
>Roody failed>Omingon failed>Underspace failed (kinda becasue his publisher took all earnings)>Marmoreal failedWhat else came out this year?
What's the name of the planetary defense laser retro game? where you shoot lasers at incoming asteroids from a dome in the bottom center.pic related
>>492152539that sounded way way better in my head
>>492152894No, I'm busy working on my own games.
>>492152907I've got two failures coming up soon just wait
>>492151907go for it.
>>492152961I call it skyrim -1
>>492152961defender
>>492152907necrovale
>>492153135*wait no... missile command
>>492152961https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJijGLGHRTE
>>492130452>If you have helicopter, boats and cars, you can do way more things than if you just have 3 cars.Mind = blown. Where can I buy his courses?
>>492152867no dipshit, it's 17 reviews * 6 reviews per review because you don't seem to understand that inner circle games get a review for almost every single sale since their discord buddies are really stoked to jerk them off on steam
>>492153268It's like this but maybe 5-10 years more advanced
>>492152907lil redwhat was the last successful by all metrics 3d one?
>>492153320I hope you guys will be just as enthusiastic for my game...
>>492152745me too
>>492153272what if those cars can fly and drive on water? checkmate
>>492153415I don't. /agdg/ supporting your game is a sure sign that you're set for complete failure
>>492153320true. there's a cottage industry of people who just want to be fans of some niche shit probably because they're lonely and it's like a fake friends group.
>>492151952>How do you even do something like this?You're talking on how I make a hole in the wall for the window?I put a mask on the wall that is then use in the shader to discard fragments. It's really nothing fancy.
>>492153320>98 saleshe is obviously trolling lol and you retards take the bait every time
>>492153320how do i get /agdg/ to buy my game
>h-h-he's trolling IT'S NOT TRUEholy shit you niggers need some real help
>>492153632put big boobs in your game
If you want to make bank you gotta make a coomer game and blue ball coomers on patreon to milk them out of their money like MadoDev or AuraDev. These are teh true success stories of agdg.How many years have they been in development? Their side hustle makes them like 80k a year
>>492152539amazingly bad sound effects, kek
>>492153708I will now add big boobs to my game.
if Marmoreal had any real traffic or real market attention it would have had at least one negative review by now. You know it's true. That's how customer influx works. The 21 inexplicable positive reviews tell you exactly what you need to know - that this is mostly circlejerkers who have known marmascus for years and aren't there for the game but for the parasocial experience
You can tell the demographic of this website has drastically shifted over the years when people are mocking someone's autistic 10 year quest to make a video game rather than rallying behind him. 4chan ain't what it use to be.
>>492153632make appealing characters
>>492153718>80k a year>5 years in developmentThats like half a million
What does this pic say to you? Murder mystery? Cult? People who are racist against snowmen? Something less common maybe like uhhh the snow... is... making people sick! No disease is a common trope. Wait wait wait get this, SUMMER is coming, when everything melts bad beasties become unfrozen and eat everyone so you have to make sure it stays winter.
>>492152710>troon noises with no actual pointk
>>492152539That game is already 4x better and more successful than Marmoreal
I'm not GMI because I already made it.
>>492153393it's called Kunstengriegerkompmandantondorf or something KPRD for short. I know this is very off, but if you know it you know it.
>>492153881Marmoreal isn't really that important as the creation of marmodev but it is really important as the representation of the fact that this place has become a hugbox for troons that lies to your face about which agdg games are good and which ones aren't
>>492153881discord clout is serious business
>>492153718true but you also have to be a massive coomer yourself to know your audience
>>492153992Help me Eric
>>492153632Neet girl dating sim
>>492152539>>492152996Same, it sounded crunchy and impactful when I was imagining the sound. I guess this actually shows the important of art, effects, animation, and screen shake
>>492154145start by visualizing yourself as the game
>>492154013no asteroids that I saw butPVKK: Planetenverteidigungskanonenkommandant
>be enginefag>start watching some loser build a scene in unity>seems to know nothing about gamedev beyond unity>is making a relatively low poly scene>is spending hours manually removing non visible faces from his random assets.>doesn't know any modern gpu can probably render a 1000 scenes like this at the same without a problem.>what is he trying to to? Make it run on a calculator?>i easily could write a function that would cull any non visible faces from the model, if this guy had it he would be done a 1000 times faster.>mfw i laugh at how superior my knowledge is and then go back to my project ive spent years on that is going nowhere and probably never will.
>>492153393
>>492153718now post about all the ones that failed
>>492153881Gen Z doesn't understand sincerity. They emerged into an internet landscape that was already ankle deep in social media and "cringe culture", the two being deeply connected. In an era where everything can be spread around the internet with your real name and face attached, Gen Z became terrified of expressing any genuine emotions online. Instead they choose to hide behind a shell of irony, mocking and hating everything out of fear of accidently enjoying something that the internet has deemed to be cringe. The era of comfy internet autism is over. All that's left are people mocking those who were brave enough to stick their neck out.
>>492154223>start new game>go into options>disable screen shake because one time a random different game you played used it too much>this game is alright but combat is missing something
>>492154440my sincere and genuine opinion is that Marmoreal is shit and the normiefication of anime has been a disaster for the human race
>>492154357That's really the problem with many making games. They are Engineers larping as Imagineers.
how do I force people to buy my game
>>492153881Yes... That's why I need to make a successful game and build a community around it.
>>492154215
>>492154543It's not shit. big rig over the road racing is shit.
>>492154215did you buy her game?https://hitsujigoods.itch.io/ngdn
>>492154775Marmoreal is everything I hated about games 15 years ago
>>492154521This but every fucking new indie game overuses screenshake and makes it way too strong. Most of them don't even include an option to change the intensity of it, just on or off. I'm not sure how this happened, if some e-celeb told everyone to use it or some market research showed that people really really like it or what but I wish there were more intentionality behind it's use and the intensity of it in the majority of games because it kinda ruins it for the few games that do use it well
>>492154662make it seem like buying it validates their identity.
>>492154832What's it you hate about it 15 years ago?
Hope you guys have a good week. I'm leaving on a short vacation today, using up 3 of my 7 yearly vacation days in the process. Hopefully it's worth it, I'll get to see a couple friends who I haven't seen face to face in over a year.I'm slightly worried that the time spent away from my computer and my game might destroy my motivation to keep working on it. I'm the type of person who needs to constantly force myself to keep going on a project or else I get distracted my something else or lose interest. Oh well, I'll just have to wait and see.
>>492154712youkuso
>>492152539that souns like someone fucking around on the menu of a popcap game
>>492154783Sorry, I meant cute neet girl dating sim.
Why would the adventuring party need to go into everyone's homes in the comfy suburbanesque snowy village residential area?
>>492154215This is actually a good idea. I'm gonna make this.
>>492155370for rape
>>492155370For sex.
I never dynamically load anything with code. I just put everything into one scene then disable everything I don't need at the start of the game and toggle visibility on and off when I need them.
>>492155370It's so cold due to a spell, that you can only stay outside for a few moments, long enough to reach another residence. so you hop from one to another warming up for a bit before carrying on.
>>492155573I do that. My game has stutter when I turn on a lot of things at once but idgaf
How good are you guys on leetcodeCan you make a game for a client in a month?
>>492135310>he doesn't have interstate border-hopping enemiesngmi
>>492154965they were becoming increasingly simplistic and gay and anime-like
>>492155724I can do a good amount probably, but I haven't really practiced it so I wouldn't excel at i. I could make a game for a client in a month yes but I'd have to use art assets from somewhere
>>492153570marmo has made thousands of dollars, now has a constant passive revenue stream for life, and the incels on agdg can not stop seething about LMAO!
>>492155724Depends on the game.
>>492155991this argument is always so fucking retarded. As if me releasing a game would change the objective reality that troonmoreal is a garbage game lmao
a crab just crabbed himself
>>492156346and you have no understanding of spacetime
>>492156264I think the crab hurt itself in its confusion
ammos are fully implemented
My codebase has 120 @TODO comments currently.I will only start hunting them down and exterminating them once I have a protoype.
>>492142253Plenty for the first time.Platformers are quite easy to make and fun if you do controls properly.
>>492156264it's good just short and needs some more polish
>>492152539it sounds like placeholder sound effects he has from a random free pack of match 3 sound of effects
I can't enjoy anything or be satisfied with myself unless I'm constantly praised by people. Every idea feels pointless and stupid and doesn't make me happy to have created it if I don't get something.
I'm such a shithead and still relies on youtube and udemy for every follow along tutorialWhen will i get good?
>>492156740SOVL and GMI
Capsule-triangle collision is fully implemented. It even slides along "walls".
>>492144438may you sell millions of copies fellow Bevychad fellow Terrariagamer
>>492156787I just checked mine. Matching lines: 213 a lot of them are for adding polish, like //TODO add sfx/animation/transition here etc
Damn I keep switching up ideas for my very first game after getting a week into each one. Debating on whether I should just deliver a trash product for my first time to get the experience or whether I should jump to a better idea because I feel that that would end up way better
>>492145719my dream game concept has farming and comfiness but after farming the people go to war and it's RTS and there's bloodthat manly?
>>492157169never, cris, never
>>492156787>>492157856I have 16and most are optional
new idea. bug bingo players can cross off as they encounter my games most common bugs.
>>492120513VR won't become mainstream until at least 2060, sorry.
>>492154440I'm sure gen z uses 4chan for sure man there's 94 unique ips in 610 posts I'm sure that's like 47 zoomers using there phone and pc to post you know not the almost 40 year old whatever the fuck cris is and pedophiles this place is actually full of must be those darn teenagers
>>492149658Nice hope it comes in good condition fren. Ive yet to use mine even though I bought it like months ago.
>>492158542I'm a zoomer and what he said is true
>>492158480BITCH
>>492158542This. Only us zoomers and alphas here. Skipidi!
>>492158542>94 unique ipsdoes he know?
>>492144701You guys got me seeing penises everywhere now
>>492159041you're right those are files not ips nevermind
>>492148640The one Im aware of (100% certainty) seems to be nice and sweet. I dont really mention who as I doubt she wants the attention. My curiosity regarding seeing her game resulted in me finding out.
>>492159060if it's not supposed to be a penis why does it have to have the little firemans hat and a peehole torch
Real time strategy bros why are there so many controls?>LMB click unit to select>LMB hold and drag for selection box>LMB on ground for deselect >LMB double click to select all of unit type on screen, CTRL+LMB does this as well>SHIFT+LMB click unit to remove from current selection>SHIFT+LMB double click to remove all of unit type from selection, SHIFT+CTRL+LMB does this as well>CTRL+number key saves selection to control group of that number>Number key selects control group of that number That's just to select things with the left mouse button. I haven't even started with the right mouse button. Then you have cases of buildings, objects, resources, enemies and your units not being in the same selection. Jesus Christ
>there are girldevs here but still no free female voice actingIt's over...
>>492159412yeah RTS controls are a rather difficult type to implement
my progress is... a little underwhelming
just gonna leave my gamedev stuff open at all times now and work on it in queue for league of legends and in between goon sessions
>>492150828I sure dont want to be stuck in development hell for 10 years or any estimated time close to that again. However if my game was showing great reception early on then yeah. But it's gotta be "I'm gonna make $1,000,000 in profit by my most pessimistic predictions" or something like that
>>492159858lollmao
>>492159770oh dear
My measure of making it, is to have fans making an anime music video in japanese of my game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtTYQuO1j6wYour measure of making it is money, mine is passion.
>>492159858the dandy way to dev
>>492160024My measure of making it is making a game so good it gets me two cute wives.
>>492159412just use LMB for everything
>>492160024that's not passion that's attention seeking. passion is making a game for your own sake
>>492160024mine is that one girl or femboy telling penguin heist dev that she's happy he was born or something if anyone has the image I don't
How many TODOs before I should go address some of them?Actually, I have 49 TODOs in my code. If the last two digits of this post are >49, I'll work on TODOs until I'm under the number.
>>492160339Yes. I look at it every now and then as motivation I'm not penguindev
>>492160414>14FUCK
>>492160414Addressing TODOs is a sign of weakness, much like refactoring. Women can smell the stench of weakness on you and will deny you sex and affection.
>>49216041469
Marmo congrats on making $5000 in a single day, more than the average NEET incel here makes in an entire year of collecting a weekly allowance from their parents (or daddy government)
>>492160657amazing
>>492160657HIS SALE TO REVIEW RATIO IS WAY BELOW AVERAGE YOU RETARD
>>492160182That doesn't play well. Imagine clicking a unit to select it, and then left clicking again to move him. It doesn't feel good.It also creates problems: If you left click to select and order a unit, you could click on a unit and want to move him and accidentally select something, or you want to select a unit and accidently send your selection to walk nearby.LMB handles selection, RMB handles your context sensitive orders.
>>492160203>passion is making a game for your own sakeWhy would you ever release a game that's purely for your own sake? Why would you bother with polish or tutorials? Dumb take. Making something that reaches other people enough that it makes them want to make their own content based on yours is absolutely passionate. You don't prioritize money but rather the connection between artist and viewer. C*is is right on this one.
>>492160657The reviews are heavily skewed by agdg people trying to help me out. I've only made $764.
>>492160823cope and seethe deliusional hating freak LMAO
>>492160836just like let AI handle it or something like get chatgpt to understand the users intention
>>492160465I'll put it in my inspiration collage
I LOVE BOCHI && IM NOT POSTING PROGRESS
>>492160657>>492160926insincere posts
>>492160957Why are you responding to my post with this
>>492161163This, but unironically.
Did my excercices, now going to dev
>>492160920make a youtube vid now about how your game made 5000 in one day. get those clicks!
>>492141861>check similar graph for Steam>platformers are above turn-basedhuh
>>492161525hollowknight doing heavy lifting
>>492154410post 1 failed agdg coomer game
>>492160465meanwhile in reality
>>492155906Concord player spotted
i think i dont want to make a game any more. this was an okay experiment, but its not for me.
>>492161525>>492161648Nevermind, it was the same graph, I just didn't notice it wasn't sorted by median revenueBig oof
>>492159516I smoke too much, my voice sounds like a truck driver, the good thing is that I can play multiplayer games without having to fake a male voice
You can do it!
>>492161825Concord is simplistic and gay and anime-like
>>492160024Me?>$15m + beautiful fangirl wife + consistent 10k concurrent players for a few years
>>492161872Ok, I will. I just need to buy a gun first.
>>492161525NTA, but that screenshot is from https://games-stats.com/steam/tags/What's more important is the distribution. Turn-based games have a very healthy distribution of sale number, with a reasonably high median. Platformers on the other hand are extremely skewed.
NEW FYGOON JUST DROPPED
>>492161898if the stars had aligned a little different, it would have been an anime game(pic from a cutscene in game)
>>492161784The cute girl post is real.
>>492151579I will buy your sims game, keep it upbtw, what's it called?
>>492161350bocchihaters dont get that im full serious desu
>2D game>will draw all backgrounds etc as 16:9, rather than adding extra areas most users will never even see>in case the window is in a different aspect ratio, have added an extra TextureRect (copying whatever image is currently being used as the background) and a blur shader at the back of the window, which expand to fill it while the main game stuff stays fixed at 16:9 in the centerWhat are your thoughts? Is this looking good/worth bothering with, or should I just stick to regular black letterboxing and let the engine take care of it for me?also in case anyone's curious the placeholder painting is Rye by Ivan Shishkin
>>492162002don't joke about that :(
Holy shit it's here.>>492150160No way dude this is easy as balls I highly suggest anyone remotely interested in doing their own art to drop $50 bucks on one of these, this is incredible.
>>492162564looks like a game ready asset!
>>492162564Which one did you get? I got a Huion h610 and it's pretty nice for the amazingly low price
>>492162775The Inspiroy H1060P. It's got all the hotkeys.
>>492162775I heard it was supposed to come with a glove though. Hopefully it stands up to all the gamer residue, it's already kind of sweaty.
>croc is getting a remasterand you guys told me to make a croc-like, lol.
>>492162464just do black, anything else is too visually distracting
>>492155573Kekd simialar if not the same, im not good woth the terminology. What does it mean to dynamically load it?
>>492153053*hugs* hi suika shapes anon.
ok I'm going to learn the basics of C++ programming now. wish me luck!
>>492163697Good luck!
I was playing Croc and I saw the little characters in cages, and frankly I thought "that looks not so bad".
>>492163107.....i just realized, i think the one i ordered was supposed to come with a stand or something, i dont think i saw one in the box
>>492163812stand sold seperately
whos the janny
You can't even make it about the actual guy being discussed you poor dumb retarded faggots
The irony is that agdg trying to support Marmoreal is probably hurting it. No doubt the algorithm is set up to detect and flag really low sale-review ratio games as inorganic and suppress their visibility. Steam is for money making, and low sale-review ratio games are definitely not money makers.
>>492160024Everyday you switch between caring only about money or passion.I don't think you even know why you dev.
>>492163356hi
>>492163794Croc is nice. I love how the collectible jewels look.
in a strategy-lite game when you have multiple campaign effects complete at the same time, like say you finished researching a new tech and also finished constructing a new building on the same turn, should there be two summary screens, one for each, or one summary screen that covers everything that finished
>>492164023steam doesn't do this
>>492164023good point, ill delete my review and refund
>>492164023good point, I'll play some more
>>492164031money is important.There's a diference between millonaire money and making 500-700 usd each month from gamedev.
>>492163794I was at McDonald's when I saw crooked Hillary and she took a dump in the McDonald's bathroom and it was so sick and so bad
>>492164330is marmo making sure we dont dev so taht we dont flood the market by having us playu his game?
>>492164023I went to a talk about Steam's algorithm at GDC and this is absolutely true. It's also going to negatively score the game's visibility because a good number of the reviews are with less than 30 minutes of gameplay.
>>492164023What
>>492146541>$100k>7 years>$15k a yearlol
>>492164640I wish I made that much money for working on my game.
>>492164239yes it does
>>492145719>why are video games gay now?Simple. CEO's hire market research teams. The same market research teams do shit like "why don't you eat x brand spaghetti anymore" and other shit like that.The market research teams don't know shit about video games, So they do some light digging and ask random people of all age groups and shit. What they find is obviously that mobile games have the best profit to investment ratio. Which is exactly what the CEOs want to know, so they push that to them. In mass media it's all LGBT shit everywhere and big fat fucking black women with big fucking cancerous tumor asses. So the LGBT crowd gets promoted as the main consumer of every product.The CEO's go "well the market research team we hired has a very high success rate in why x product isnt selling, so we should trust them". And go along blindly with whatever.The shareholders of major companies very often do not have any clue about the actual industry they hold a share of. They usually have many shares in many other industries as well and in many of the industries, the same strategies work. But for shit like video games, it doesn't. A prime example is Blizzard. They used to be a juggernaut. However, if you look at wow today, it'll soon be indistinguishable from a mobile game. They even tried and failed miserably with diablo immortal.
>>492164640more money than I ever could have made in 7 years
>>492164640That's gross revenue paid out in a single taxable year. After Steam cut, tax, etc., it'd be more like $32k net revenue, and that still doesn't include any costs like paying for artists/assets.
>>492164443Marmoreal is hitting a ridiculously low sale-review ratio of around 6 sales per review, when the rough average is around 30 sales per review. Steam uses low ratios (and other factors) to detect inorganic traffic and flag bad actors. Basically agdg has inadvertently ruined Marmoreal’s launch.
>>492164442Does it really suppress such games, or do they only under-perform relative to what you would expect from their inflated metrics?Seems like there's not really any need to artificially penalize a game for having boosted review counts when you already know the number of sales and average playtime.
>>492164235Two summary sceens for sure, otherwise it would be tedious
>>492164640post steam page for your game and profits?
>>492164640have you shipped anon? did you make more than 15k$ a year?
>>492165082Marmoreal is an EA release, and so the only organic traffic it could get was by becoming a Top Seller. Even if it wasn't an EA release, it only had 2.8k wishlists at launch, well below what is needed to hit Popular Upcoming.
>>492152907Punch Monkey is coming out tomorrow and Nolgorb's Ordeal is coming out on September 6th.
any ai shit that can generate sfx for me?
>>492165675yes
>>4921654121.8k actually...
>>492165048Just say jews next time
>>492165416I’m also going to soft launch my game on itch on September 1 in preparation for a Steam launch in October it November
You mean I gotta draw all these models?
>>492161776Literally every single coom game Cris has tried to make
>>492165082>Basically agdg has inadvertently ruined Marmoreal’s launchur welcome
>>492165873Just use AI generated references now no one can sue you.
why haven't you made a 3d horror game yet?
>>492153410>Changes header>Does not mention this to the threadImagine if the dev was anything like Nortubel or Gob
>>492165412>>492165792why would you even launch a game without at least 50-100k wishlists lol100,000 wishlists x 0.05 conversion rate = 5000 copies sold and hope it's enough to trend onto the front page of steamanything less than that and you're retarded
>>492165945cris is based dev h edoesnt coomdev cirs is a honorary bochiposter
>>492166112No VA for MC.
>>492166182>just get 50k wishlists bro>look at how smart i am
>>492161776there was one guy who tried to make an orgy game but it didn't do wellthere was yohkoh? can't remember how to spell his name. He didn't follow through.There's a bunch of devs I know from /dgg/ where their projects are still just hobby level. Many of them just aren't commercially viable.
>>492165082>the ugly game with garbage gameplay, a terrible trailer, awful capsule art with less than 2000 wishlists even though it's been in development for 7 years failed because a couple of 4channel'ers purchased itdid not realize I was on r/gamedev
>>492166182holy shit wait is this why so many of the games on my wishlist haven't released in years? they're hoping to get to a certain threshold before releasing? that's the secret??
>>492166326if you can't get at least 50k wishlists from posting on social media, your game was never going to sell well in the first place and if you can't see that object reality than you're literally retarded>>492166438yes, wishlists are the single most important metric of your entire game's success pre-launchsource: Valve's GDC talks
>>492166239https://ca3hentai.itch.io/ss-dungeon-prototype
>>492166758>dungeonf-fake news
>>492166812It takes place inside a dungeon.
>>492166612now I'm wondering how many finished games are just sitting there for years collecting dust because they haven't reached 50k wishlists yet...
>>492166612>if you can't get at least 50k wishlists from posting on social media, your game was never going to sell well in the first place and if you can't see that object reality than you're literally retarded>what is Path of Achra>what is Pseudoregalia>what is Vampire Survivors
How do I know if I'm getting ripped off by my pixel artist? I feel like the amount in paying is about average, but I wanted to check just in case.
>>492125354>Then, he started making and posting progress for that one game with the goblin girl with big handsAre you sure that was Ivy Sly? Why would he switch back to enginedev after releasing games in Godot?
>>4921673841$ per pixel
>>492167078no ti doesnt its an imagination in ur head
>>492167384You compare price to other artists of same quality.
>>492167421>Are you sure that was Ivy Sly? Why would he switch back to enginedev after releasing games in Godot?IIRC he made a tweet about how Godot is too restrictive bla bla, then after a couple of months of engine deving he realized it takes too much time to make everything yourself and went back to Godot.
>>492167343>anon can't comprehend statistical outliersright, so you're retarded, I already knew that but thank you for confirming it to remove all doubt from my mind
I think every idea I have and kind of like is cringe
My code is up to 9 levels of indentation...
AGDG is always like:>your game has to do good numbers on social mediaBut AGDG is never like:>this is how you make your game do good numbers on social media:
>>4921432871.0 is dropping soon unless it has already. That games been in early access (with continuous updates) for years so it has had time to develop an audience like early Minecraft.
>>492167995Just make a good game
this is how you make your game do good numbers on social media:have an established following
>>492167995if there was a fucking formula we'd all be rich and successful now wouldn't we
>>492167983I get itchy at 4 indentations and refactor it into a function
>>492167995make an attractive game with fun gameplayunfortunately this filters 99% of aggydaggers
>>492153272Steve Lee is a real level designer who has worked on real shipped AAA games, not a grifter, but of fucking course agdg refuses to listen to actually useful design ideas.
I feel so eepy....
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>>492153718That's unironically my plan:>make coomer game/s>get subscribers on paytroon etc>if/when adequately established, begin redirecting an increasingly large proportion of dev time to non-coom games (to be released under a different name)>if all goes to plan, can then focus on non-coom stuff while enjoying some extra money on the side as long as I keep some coom content coming out too
dont stop me from bochimaxxing
>>492168175>real shipped AAA gamesNone of these are like us. How can a game that lives a cushy life because of the company name, the franchise name it's attached to compare to us?
>>492168175>level designer>AAA gamesl m f a o
>>492124079I believe in the principle, that if your idea is 'released' you lose some internal motivation to finish it. However, every time I've completed a project, it's almost always had some form of daily logging, posted somewhere for accountability.I've also had instances of 'man I'll totally work on this game after this jam/demo day', but totally lost interest after the fact. This is, in part, a deflation because the idea was realized, but looking back, the ideas also weren't that great. A soft-release can make you realize you're working on a bad idea and allow you to let go, while still finishing something.Now I'm trying to make the next step and actually have a game release, but I'm not telling anyone a bit about things that aren't implemented.
>>492161841gross, I bet you fart a lot too
marmodev your game is not worth 15 dollars you need to cut that shit in half to even have a chance. You are competing with like terraria + starbound + stardew valley for the price of a EA game that barely has content.
There could be like, a main road.
>>492168613make sure to paint it yellow
>How I WASTED 10 years on my dream game so you don't have to (harsh reality of indie game dev)Failure is just new opportunity
>dont release your game for above $15 because then you're competing with grand theft auto 5ok bro sure lol
>>492168128There's a formula to JLMG yet many struggle with it
>>492168128Have you heard the good word of our lord and savior average playtime theory?
>dont release your game for above $15 because then you're competing with grand theft auto 5you're right bro
>>492168524Not to be that guy but how else would you show that you can break stuff and get shit out of it?
>Marmo, Underspace, Roody:2d all at $15+>Everyone places themself beneath $15hmmmm
>>492168583>>492168820>>492168990You're forgetting about sales discounts. Since games go on sale at different times, it's possible for it to be cheaper than those games at some points.
>>492169242>>492169242>>492169242
>>492165048I like how you just assume CEOs and market research teams are unbiased these days and its all just "oopsie our methodology sucks and we're so out of touch haha"All this shit is coming from the top down and has no organic support. In fact its very costly and high friction to keep it propped up like this.
I thought $10 was fine for an indie game as long as it's longer than 6 or so hours
>>492168820actually coping
>>492167808>right, so you're retarded, I already knew that but thank you for confirming it to remove all doubt from my mind
>>492169389marmoreal is $15 with 1-2 hours of content
>>492169626It's on early access.
>>492169835and? you think people should pay even more for it because its an unfinished product? what even is your retarded logic
>>492169835What do you think people are gonna do, anon? Buy a early access game that might not be finished for another 10 years for $15? Or buy a game that's actually finished and proven itself for $15?
>>492168453What if this was the real reason every single weg develops at a glacial pace and/or fizzles out
>>492169962And the finished product could have more hours of content, silly.
>>492169116Everything is breakable in my game
>>492170000>Buy a early access game that might not be finished for another 10 years for $15I did that for Black Mesa source, bought it to support the development because I thought it had potential then waited until it was released to play it.
>>492170254>"Hey I'd like to sell you a car for full retail price $40,000, but it's not finished yet, so for now you can just have these two wheels. Well, yes, it's still full price because there is the potential that someday you will have a full car! Silly!"
>>492171246It's a practice to sell apartments before they're built so the construction company can use the money to build the apartment building and they're much more expensive than cars...
>>492171553you're retarded, disrespectfully
>>492171704no hes got a point
>>492172075no he doesn't
>UE4/5 is completely unoptimized that constantly has micro-stutters even on AAA professionally made games running on optimized hardware>Unity also unoptimized with shady business deals>Godot is gayis there really no good options for 3Dbros other than making your own engine which would take years out of dev times anyways?
>>492174539Anon, you can't be a gamedev and not gay. Give it up.
>>492170075That was exactly my assumption. actually.Either that, or they're just trying to maximize income relative to effort.
