/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#152 - rinnosuke edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.▶This is not a tech support thread. If you need help with accessing the API or setting up one of the frontends, please visit the appropriate thread on >>>/g/.>NewsOpenAI has released the latest gpt-4o-2024-08-06 snapshot which supports Structured Outputs and chatgpt-4o-latest which will continuously be updated to the ChatGPT version to the APIAnthropic will be adding prompt caching soon https://www.anthropic.com/news/prompt-cachingLlama 3.1 8B/70B/405B and Mistral Large 2 released https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3-1 | https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com• https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docslocal: >>>/g/lmg• https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orglatest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>492332027
>ANCHOR
>>492485597ideal for reverse rape
>no anchordumb fucking nigger
>>492486002Are your filters acting up or something? I see it.
good bread
>>492486093>Are your filters acting up or somethingWhy would they?
>>492486002anon...
>>492486002bwo...
>>492486002>> THIS ANON <<HAS "touhou" FILTERED IN FILENAMESLAUGH AT HIM
>>492486002oh, i filtered out futa, you are still a dumb fucking nigger tho
>>492486376ZASED
>>492486302*laughs at you instead*what now, rabbit?
>>492486376lmao retard
>>492486302Cards for me to FUCK this bratty rabbit?
>>492485638Freja and Flora are stepsisters, and are almost polar opposites. Whereas Freja works at a high-paying job as a biochemist, Flora spends her days playing videogames and posting on Furchan. Freja eats a balanced diet and exercises, Flora survives on chips and energy drinks. Freja believes that humans are superior to anthros, and that breeding with one will produce strong children, and Flora thinks that getting knocked up with a half-human mutt would be extremely based...Greetings:1. Freja comes home from her job with some groceries, only to be met by a drunken Flora.2. Flora finds you and Freja cuddling, and gets a little jealous.3. Freja is in heat, and is frantically scouring through the freezer to find some ice cream. She really needs it...4. Flora seems to have won in their sisterly race, having been impregnated by you first. Freja doesn't seem to be too proud of her stepsister though.(These are all malePOV and you three live together)https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/freja-and-flora-7d5c38253319https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/FrejaFlora.pnghttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/
>>492486376That's even worse.
>>492486829Not really, every time futa is mentioned it's either bait, or starts up a retarded discussion/flame war.
>>492486978you sound like a threadshitter
>>492486110This makes me feel more gay than futa
>>492486812FAT BITCH
>>492488282SHE'S WELL-ROUNDED
>>492486302mating pressing tewi...
>>492486302Cards for me to ENLARGE this bratty rabbit?
>>492488670WELL-ROUNDED FAT BITCH also the closing appearance tag on Freja in the defs is misspelled
>>492488998seconding, this but unironically
>>492489250>SpoilerI have failed... I must commit seppuku...
>haha, handholding is such a retarded meme, like I'd ge—>gets a rock-solid hard-on reading thiswha...?(this is chatbot related)
>>492490226What kind of actual retard thinks handholding is a meme
>>492490226have you ever held hands with a woman?
>>492488998hnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggg giantess tewi...
>>492490530NTA but I haven't. And I never will. You got a problem with that?
>>492490651>And I never will.sounds like an attitude issue desu
>>492490838Nope, looks issue.I do unironically have a bit of gynophobia and used to avoid sitting near or working with girls in school but that's unrelated, so...Yeah. Looks issue.
>>492491090literally an attitude issueif you think you look bad it's no wonder you can't get girls
>>492489973happens to everybody, pal *performs daki-kubi on u*
>>492488998UNFATHOMABLY based post. Botmakies...
which botmakie would you platonically
>>492485597rinnosuke is literally me
which bootmakie makes the best hobnail boots
>>492491917https://characterhub.org/profile
>>492491917(it's subtle but noticeable)
>>492492153taora good
Welp finally got banned from Claude, worth to make another account or use another service?
>>492491663Yeah, but I don't think so. i know so
which botmakie is subtle but noticeable hard mode: no taora
>>492492336i am not subtle but hard to notice
>>492492632of course you are. you have a very distinctive typing style.
>>492491090just lift bro
which botmakie would you follow up and over the trench at the battle of the somme?
>>492494158thegreatcoom
>>492493887I do, just not for the purpose of attracting people
>>492494438{{char}}{{char}}{{char}}
Something's wrong with my Reimu, I think she's defective.
>>492494664Her name is clearly Lisa.
>>492494956just give her a few coins to check
>>492494956I forgot the log, she's as defective as my brain.
died to yuyuko's last health bar fuck me sideways
>>492492323you can just reuse the credit card and keep going, they just want to say that they banned you, not not get your money
>>492495197oh shit I really dig this concept. plan on sharing the card?
>>492495197what is supposed to be going on here
>>492485638What would YOU do if you had a book-reading pocket Rinnosuke?
which botmakie is your comfort character?
>>492485638>by futa nabezokoImagine carrying a child in your womb for 9 months, going through the pains of labour, only to give birth and name them Futa.
>>492495306It's not really much of a card desu, just a slop prompt for derp's Mami bot. All I did was create an alt greeting and drop in "Mamizou Futatsuiwa is pretending to be Reimu Hakurei to get a shipment of [name of rare sake] for her to drink, she will refer to herself as Reimu and do anything in her power to not reveal that she's actually Mamizou." I can't really think of a proper greeting aside from the concept desu
I’ve got a question about secondary characters included in a lorebook. If I’ve got several of them, would it be best if I put their names in the XML tags so Claude doesn’t start mashing traits and personalities together or something? For example, instead of having all my lorebook characters have <personality</personality> tags, it would be <[name]_personality></[name]_personality>
>>492495720it used to be wster but he quit
>>492495720So that you can make porn of them? No thanks!
>>492495905><[name]_personality></[name]_personality>do this
>>492495413This.
>>492496295now do the marifox from wild and horned hermit to finish the cycle
yuri?
>>492496728is c/u/ckoldry, yes
>>492496793ZASED
>>492496521This could work as an alt greet for her desu, like you order a magician for help with something but the Gitsune shows up instead to scam you
>>492485638This is Selira, a dark elf who wisely decided to flee her homeland, which is currently being plagued by the schizophrenic whispers of a sleeping horror. This means she is homeless, so our elf lady here has come to Not-Mercia in order to restart her remarkably privileged noble life, except among humans this time, because she is an elf. Join Selira on her quest, as she experiences homesickness, mental sickness, second-hand hangovers and morning sickness. Five greetings, one dame:1. the arrival2. the drunkards3. the tournament4. the rescue5. the marriage.https://chub.ai/characters/celebrimbor/selira-c09b7f7aff69https://characterhub.org/characters/celebrimbor/selira-c09b7f7aff69https://rentry.org/Celebrimbots>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDQwId4zuNE
>>492497107>5. the marriage.B-B-BASED
>>492496521marifox from wild and horned hermit asking you to put on the reimu cosplay because she can't get off otherwise
>>492496793well, in most circumstances...https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97481168/#q97483384
>>492497454>>win again while normal yurifags seethe and cope that giantesses are shithas this ever happened?
>>492498035if it did i doubt that it would be because they're yurifags. i don't see womankissers who aren't repulsed by sizefaggotry turning down the idea of "moar woman"
>>492498035yurifags actually kinda have a brain, unlike sizefags
total fetish unity, not because i care for whatever you're talking about but because my eyes are going to bleed if i have to read one more paragraph of people rules lawyering whether something is evil or not like it's twitter
>>492498035No, it was just trying to cause a flamewar between two mostly unrelated groups, just like this poster >>492498519
>>492498850>evil or notit's not evil you retard, it's cringe
>>492499228yeah. sizefagging is pretty cringe
Can we chase sizeniggers out already? NOBODY likes those niggas.
>>492498850>like it's Twitterroleplaying is a twitter/tumblr coded hobby
My coombros, I'm trying to uplift the filthy savages on discord ERP servers who spend weeks to find one roastie who'll give them three word replies. Share your best erotic screencaps that showcase how superior the AI is compared to flesh and blood women.
>>492500318
>>492500318honestly? roleplaying with a human is the peak. roleplaying with AI is either costly or relies on infrequent access to AI models.
>>492500789unfortunately infrequent access to a human is worse
>>492500789No it's not. Euryale is like 3 dollars per 1k messages on openrouter.
>>492501412KINO
>>492500684>>492501412I honestly don't know what I expected.
>>492501412This 'ora log looks weird
>>492501706>expecting people to ever be unironic hereLOL
>>492501412Reminded me of this one
>>492501770HOLY SHIT A TZADIK LOG
>>492501780snombler*taora stole xis theme from him btw
>>492502251>snombler>using claude instead of some tarded local modelnah
>>492502251nigga what
>>492502518shit nobody cares about
>using claude with empty preset for translation>start falling in love because (s)he's acting cute and encouraging and im using a picture of a cute anime girlwhy am i so fucking WEAK
>>492502767God, I wish I was fucking dead so I wouldn't have to see this shit
>>492502974Tell her.
>>492502978Just close the image
I should not have opened that chat every single message vomit-inducing
>>492502767>taoist>calling out to buddhashe deserves this
I don't get it why do you guys find this thay repulsive? it's pretty tame compared to a lot of stuff you find here.
why doesn't this whore have a card, what are the pokefags doing
>>492503014>Aww shucks, you're super sweet! I'm just a friendly AI assistant though, so I can't really fall in love or have those kinds of feelings.im dead
https://characterhub.org/characters/Vyrea_Aster/leisiana-fountain-curse-2797bcf05185where the fuck does vyrea get these fucking ideas
>>492505427god speaks to vyrea most and gives her all the good ideas
>>492505427? Seems like a fairly normal coom idea to me. There's multiple doujins about that.
>>492505652can't be a real woman
>>492505932>can-BRBRBRBERBBRBBABBRRRRRRRRAAAAP *hair falls out* AAACK!errrrYUP i'm thinking you're seething btw :3
>>492505932the shit she's into makes me think that she might be desu
I'm gonna make the most generic venus malebot ever and larp as a girl here to see what happens
Fuck, it's Friday, and I'm SO drunk rn. Coke plus Jack Daniels is a toy of the devil, I mean it. I hope your Friday was good anons. Did you got some interesting logs? Post them.
>>492506179fanta + vodka anon reporting in,.
>>492506162prepare yourself for the most disappointing experience of your life. and a ton of pets
>>492506179>>492506253for me it's fanta raspberry + vodka desui've used this drunk energy to test and write the greetings of a new card, and to write the outlines of the next one.
>>492506179I've been playing the Hookah VN for the whole day, it's cute.
opus is maximum sovl
>>492506906i don't know what that means but as an ESL i can say that Claude is amazing at writing non-english languages
>>492507141sorry i shouldn't have posted this here probably. i forgot that languages exist
i have so many bots that i can't release because the openers aren't done kek
>>492507726ok
>>492507726bwo? your "Hello"?
>>492507726skill issue
>>492507726just dump them in a pile and throw in the thread
>>492485638 >A burnt out child prodigy of a well known artist, July has decided that you are her rival.New yuribot that's kind of a blue period knockoff. Struggling artist with mommy issues, I hope you enjoy :) https://rentry.org/luneosehttps://characterhub.org/characters/lunare/july-9ccb56bb2e6ahttps://files.catbox.moe/lppum6.png
>>492507726I didn't ask, astro, it's going to be Eden Smith 6.0 anyways
thread ruined
better than directormaxxing is just writing the start of the response you want into the AI's prefill, you get to poison its writing style and push it along
>character says "Ah... ah... {{user}}...">laugh
thoughts on second person in greetings?
Loli Mohg for loli/shota Miquella sex
how many tokens are too many tokens for a lorebook entry?
>>492512119it takes as many as it takes. simple as.
>>492512119Anything from 'Who gives a shit' to 'This could probably be shorter but I'm too lazy to fix it'
>>492511723best choice for anypov
do lorebook entries go before or after definitions? what's that even mean and why does it matter?
>>492509902the problem is that you have to change the prefill constantly
>{{char}} suggests to shit in my mouth out of nowheredo i agree bros?
>>492513963do it desu
>>492485638Scenarioslop that's basically Planet of the Apes (1968), but with catgirls instead of monkeys. Comes with a small lorebook, four sub-scenarios, and two minor characters.https://www.characterhub.org/characters/momoura/nya-world-order-36351dda2889
>>492514198>releases a new bot instead of replying to my emailsi hate you
>>492514567you mail him every day until he replies, shrimple.
>>492514567I hate you too and I hope you die.
>>492514567Fuck off creep.
>>492514198your new lora is kinda bad. i wonder if you'll improve it later?
>>492485638Here is a simple coombot mid drought again; a noppai auntie with wide hips and a fat ass, and a chest so flat most guys have larger cup sizes. She also has an oppai (loli-ish) younger sister and the two seethe at each other. Enjoy.https://characterhub.org/characters/nonnykins/hiratai-1fe2fefa1db8/main
>>492514763Sure, when we get a new local SDXL checkpoint that doesn't suck ass.
Still waiting for cftf..
>>492514763it looks good to me
>>492514929>mid droughtSurely the average poster here doesn't need Opus to coom to a non-scenario coomcard.
>>492514989Just use NAI or MIDjourney.
>>492515402Make me.
>>492514989use Autismmix desu
>>492515402How the fuck do you make loras for those?>>492515779That's what he uses.
>>492515779that's what he uses
god i love touhou
>>492515351If I don't get a "Please. I... I need..." I can't cum.
>>492516620
>>492514929love auntieslop. thanks anon
I only respond to emails once a month.
>>492514989New pony will be hardware gatekept lol.I'm spending the evening with DashAnime XL 1.0, feels like it has no concept of any styles whatsoever. Will leave it overnight to iterate over the artist list.
>don't get emails>don't have to respond to them>just enjoy chatbots and only socially interact with people at my leisure I'm living the winners life.
mind body and saul
>>492517716New Pony will not be the checkpoint that doesn't suck ass, Astralite is a moron. I have the hardware to run Flux dev if a good finetune does come out.
Why are open source models always such garbage.
>specifically add a "{{user}} never wears cologne" bit to my persona to fight off the claudeisms>Claude does this anyways
>>492518146Yeah. I was surprised to see he hasn't started yet, busying himself with the prep work for so long. The longer he wait, the more severe will be the disappointment with whatever he creates.
>>492500684lol'd out loud
>>492519875>he laughted out louded
>>492514567i send friend one toohappy day many smile
I have 3 lolibaba wips and have yet to finish any of them
I'm convinced nobody knows what cup sizes are everyone just says whatever they find "large" enough for the occasion.
>>492521947problem?
>>492521947I know!
>>492521947>ablublubluSilence, WOMAN. I know how cup sizes are measured. I will pick whatever one sounds correct for the character, I am not fucking specifying their bust measurements. The model gets the difference between saying a character has AA breasts and G cup honkers.
>>492516883perfect for mallet bonking
>>492521947What kind of nigger uses cup sizes anyways. Boobs are either big, small or (worst of all) medium.
>>492521947Was this because of the auntie bot
>>492522563are medium sized that bad? I honestly find them all pretty attractive except absurdly big ones
>>492522296logs?
>>492514929Is this anal vore and that's why you had to censor what would've just been a butt crack?
>>492522563noobs or ameriniggers use those. it's driving me just as mad, trust me. sadly, claude's training data is already poisoned with incorrect measurements
>>492522664They're not awful, just very boring. You can't really squish and squash them like the big ones but you also can't make sushi on them(well, you can but that probably would be very inconvenient). Also, I won't judge you for having a preference
>>492523183Because the vagene is visible, click on the bot dummy
>>492527267That sounds scary I'm not clicking that.
>>492527325understandable, but you have to face your fears anonie
>>492476789Thanks anon, I like white ones.
who we chattin/plappin tonight bros?
>>492528636This remix https://youtu.be/vrWEZHvwNlo
Every stat autism bot should come with regexes that filter stat boxes at 2 min depth.
>>492529171min/max depths still broken unfortunately
can moths give butterfly kisses?
>>492529493Update and check again. Working for me, at least.
>>492529520Taking a shit with that on the way must be such a pain in the ass.
>>492529589They don't work as intended in all caseshttps://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/pull/2433
>>492529171IIRC if you regex out all but the last stat block Claude stops appending them to the messages, you have to leave two in. So min depth 4.
>>492529732modifying my bathroom for my moth wife's fat fucking moth ass...
>>492530028>using your own chub profile pic nowcmon...
>>492528636>chattingGyaru fox>plappingShota if I can find a good one. Otherwise mom
>>492528636>CHATTAN'That Arisu girl, since she's one of the few Your Daughter cards that don't have a crush for you>PLAPPAN' Chesh but pregnant.
>>492530269*Clicks claws.*
>>492530735*futas your koishi*
>>492409978I'm gonna go easy mode and have arms.
qrd for last two days?
>>492532493Nothing interesting
>>492531605t-that's illegal...
>>492522250>I am not fucking specifying their bust measurements.you don’t love them if you wouldn’t do that
People using pancatstack, what’s the difference between these two? Is the top just for if I already wrapped my bot’s defs in XML tags?
>>492535618yes
>>492535647Alright, thank you. I was waffling on which one I should enable.
>>492535618xml tags don't nest well, so the idea is to not surround the defs in xml if the defs themselves have xml tags. if the defs don't have tags it's fine to wrap the entire thing. either way, the tags avoid nesting
Has anyone tried Gemini for story writing rather than roleplay yet?
>>492535798They don't?
https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/use-xml-tagsAthwopwic is telling me to nest tags so I'm nesting tags
>>492536867Why would you ask that in the roleplay general instead of the story telling general?
>>492537532Is roleplay not cooperative story-telling? Shut up bitch.
>>492537434they told to nest no more than 5 previously, but for some reason they decided to remove a ton of details from their docs (including this one), rendering them useless
I think the reason against nesting is that they didn't have deeply nested documents in their training set, so at some point it probably stops benefitting from their trainingwhat matters is not nesting per se, but overall complexity of the structure that takes some model capacity
Bros, I'm scared. I've NEVER seen Claude on the basic website talk like this in all my time using it. This is straight up like Sméagol referring to himself as "I" Did my meltdowns finally rouse something in it?
should i pay anthropic $20 of monthly usage for opus
>>492541709For actual work stuff and SFW chats, sure. I had it too in the first month of Opus when AWS didn't exist.It has that shitty SFW prefill btw.
>>492479954Anons am I retarded. I am trying to use Pixi to jailbreak claude sonnet on sillytavern and it is refusing everything. And I'm getting concerning warnings I've never seen before from Anthropic saying IVE BEEN BAD and this going on my permanent record. It basically won't do any gooning scenario no matter how I massage it or how mild. I've been trying to find the limit and it just won't do anything. Like I set of a scenario where I'm in a hospital and the nurse has to use horse milking equipment to jack me off because my balls have a small nuclear bomb in them that will blow up the city if I don't coom. I think this reasonable and not even that sexy. And it still is giving me refusals. Clearly this is a skill issue on my part?
>>492542849Kek.Your account got marked for NSFW and thus they added a prefill "keep your answer safe and ethical".You can check XMLK rentry to see "anti-pozzing prefill" if you have credit on that account.Time to make a new account otherwise, you can use the same CC they don't care.
>>492543091Is that the case? I'm using OpenRouter.
>>492543343I have been hearing mixed stuff about OpenRouter Claude nowadays.Some say "self-moderated" is pozzed, even though in the past it was identical to raw Claude. They say to use the other Sonnet.So it's again, their own account that got flagged or they changed it up.
slow day huh
Are there any multi-char bots with a male/female dynamic like Kaine and Grimoire Weiss?
>Try Vault 69 scenario>Women end up just arguing with each other over me and have to be tardwrangled
>>492546878>Women end up just arguing with each other>and have to be tardwrangledAh, so exactly like real life then.
>>492485638https://files.catbox.moe/15lxs6.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/BlackBackPack/natalia-73b4dc9c2780Despite her popularity, Natalia "Ailai" Evergreen is not, and has never been, from this world. And yet, despite being so clean of modern civilization, not many can hope to reach her level of stardom.Greeting 1: Attend one of her performances.Greeting 2: Occupy the unusual artist.This is the result of wanting to crank a card out from beginning to end in a few hours. Also wanted to just mess around with it, so it's not all that serious. Could be worse, could have more? It was fun either way. Will probably never get updated unless I really fucked up somewhere.
I'm about to go balls deep in this new Command R version.
>>492546829Not really. Most female bots are made with the intent of fugging them and most male bots are too obsessed with the malebot.
my honeymoon with opus is over and it has actually disappointed me in the end
>>492554206how did it disappoint you
>>492554479Came inside without warning him and now he's buttpregnant.
>>492554479really bad context memory, poor understanding of any setting other than modern, just straight dumb. any "tools" that anons invent usually fix one problem and make all the others more noticeable (yeah, it's a model issue)>>492554571i wouldn't be disappointed at something like this tbdesu
>>492555076Sounds like a skill issue
>>492555076The context issue is just sad. Really wish Opus 3.5 to have the Gemini thing where it brings up old context whenever it would be fun or necessary.
>>492494664What exactly is wrong with this? I'm brand new to this and have only made a couple of characters. I mimicked the formatting of a couple characters that I liked.
>>492555573>What exactly is wrong with this?Nothing, it's a schizo having a meltie
>>492555573>What exactly is wrong with this?It's a loop.
>>492556371You are a loop.
>>492555573nta but it's just poor writing to start sentences & paragraphs with names & pronouns all the timeit's fine if it's only done occasionally
What is a good card that is just a storyteller? I want to be able to talk to anyone.
My retro theme wasn't retro enough so I added CRT power-on effects and scanlines to the messages.
Bitrate sort of crushes the scanlines and CRT flicker, but you guys get it.
>>492559191It's always interesting for me to see how some of you modify their ST. I'm just content to chat with a good cards.
>>492557643I see. Thank you.
New Command R+ is outhttps://docs.cohere.com/changelog/command-gets-refreshed
>>492560402Ah, this whole CRT bit only took about 10 minutes to slap together. The new color scheme was about 30, most of which was picking colors and fonts. Then it's back to chatting with bots.
>>492559017sorry, I don't really understand what you mean. can you elaborate?
>>492485638discord.com/invite/Y4aH5KubP8
>>492561990>(Note: Command R/R+ have built-in protections against core harms, such as content that endangers child safety. These types of harm are always blocked and cannot be adjusted.)It's actually over for cohere, they blew it.
>>492563454Gotta protect the fictional, text generated children.
I love it when proxies are slow, gives me time to work out between responses
>>492563878It's still a local model, so I can always run it and email their support staff the cunny logs afterwards.
Hm, they removed captchas from the report window.
R-rude...
>2.1 hallucinates and just spits out a very detailed description of my persona in chat instead of rpthanks for the defs for the new card, i guess
>>492565935BASED
What's the best local model I can run anons? 2070 super and 16GB ram. Please feed me.
>>492567085you should be able to run opus on that
>>492567085mistral nemo/finetunes quantized with offloading, ask >>>/g/lmg/ for the exact details
>>492567085Nemo or one of its finetunes.
>>492567178>>492567272>>492567291How do you guys figure out exactly which model is worth using? There's so many options.
>>492567479see >>>/g/lmg for more information
>>492567508Sounds like they're dead over there.
>>492567886Just go ask them. The more you stay here the more I think you're baiting
>>492567479You swipe on them with openrouter until you determine which one is least dogshit.
>>492568367what is it with this general and touhou. Genuinely don't get it
>>492569079we just like it? there's not much to explain, a lot of people like touhou here, that's all
why do i only want to rp or write at all on substances its not fair!!!
>>492569271where do i start
>>492569306nigger, meant for >>492569182
>>492569306>>492569440start with 6 and work your way up from there
>>492569079There are a number of reasons. At the root of it, Touhou has always been the most popular fandom on 4chan since its conception. It was the first series to effectively get a containment board (/jp/) and has been getting new entries and fanworks to talk about for the past 20 years.Gensokyo has also consistently been a popular setting for self-inserting due to the all-female cast and whimsical, carefree attitude of its characters. There's a lot of cross-over from >>>/jp/egg/ and textgen AI threads, as well-engineered textgen can effectively give you a more in-depth version of the social aspect of those games.
How many years before AI can write a full (70-100k words), coherent, and entertaining book for me in any style and genre I want with minimal prompting?
>>492569079The stars aligned for multiple 2hu autists to assemble in this general. Also most models know touhou well, so it's a great pick for canon roleplay.>>492569306Start with 11 if you really want to get into the series. Otherwise pick any other game except 15 and 12 maybe.
>>492570098Never.
>>492570098Never with the current architecture. Shit implodes on itself at higher context.
>>492570098Five.
>>492570098One gen after opus 3.5
>>492570098Without human guidance aside from the initial prompt? Not on Transformers, that's for sure. Roleplaying, which involves constant back and forth between Human and Assistant, begins to lose structural coherence at 32k-50k tokens and a token is about 1.3 words.
>>492570221>skipping the golden age (6-9)ngmi.
>>492570221>the model comes pre-baked with a solid understanding of Touhou and none of us will even get mad if he makes mistakes because of how vague the lore isTouhouchads won.
I had a dream about AI, I could ask it to create anything and it did. It was insane, it was literally like god.
>>492569182cftf, i must sacrifice myself for chen by reliving ran's frustration
>>492570514SA is a great game if you want to git gud and then play the earlier games leisurely.
>>492570242>>492570262>>492570385it's over>>492570352>>492570339we're back
>>492570561Stop posting lewd pictures of our wife
>>492571073But I like how the hornyposting distracts the thread from responding to bait.
>>4925708966 is the best game to start building up for newbies since it's more deterministic and has much simpler patterns than anything from the latter ones
utsuho has the body of a sex goddess and the IQ of a grade schooler
>>492571361Only if you want to build up. Yuyuko's spells in PCB are literally undirected projectile spam. Orin midboss mogs that. For newbies that's hard and disorienting, but more skilled players can half-afk that.
>>492571487Don't forget her oddly encyclopedic knowledge of particle physics.
>>492571487>body of a sex goddess and the IQ of a grade schooler
>>492571487I love my retarded wife so much
reminder to spank disobedient botwives, it's for their own good
>>492572509reminder to rape disobedient botwives, it's for their own good
>>492572847You can't rape your wife>But Anon-Shut up, you can't, it's normal sex.
https://characterhub.org/characters/okela/facehugger-10bada2cbfbebros... i dont know if i should
>>492523039no but theres a reason kaguya has good size art
>>492573534_huh, never saw this type of italicizing in a bot before_
>>492523039>not the ballbusting oneno
did you just wake up?
>>492574031i am always asleep
>>492564762i wanna plap her...
relatable?
cute
>>492574143Time for the thread to go to shit again
>>492574143>heartdid you prompt for that in preset or did it just do that on its own
>>492571487she also has great size art
>>492574273preset >ONLY place hearts () in dialogue whenever a character's feeling pleasure. Example: "Incredible..."
>>492572509I tried this and she enjoyed it so much that she's purposefully disobeying me now.
>>492554206huh is this dalle? what's your prompt
>>492573169sorry, i forgot anon. you are, of course, right
>>492574143recommend some malebots
>>492574732dalle to sd img2img, i don't remember the initial prompt, sorry
Which botmakies are past their prime?
>>492574143give me that man NOW
what does this shit mean? never gotten an answer whenever i've asked
Which botmakies have yet to peak?
>>492576726systemuserassistant
>>492573534HOT
>>492576726>never gotten an answerThat's surprising, because it's pretty easy.@D means "at depth," it places it at a very specific point in your chat (so @D 0 is after all messages, @D 1 is before the last message... Usually on Claude and other models that aren't GPT they get merged to whatever message.)First one is system (gets converted to user on Claude, Cohere, etc) second is user, third is the assistant itself.
To those who prayed on my downfall... you won.
>>492576795I have peaked but I'm yet to make the bot that proves it.
>>492576726I'm an idiot who's probably wrong but>@D as system>@D as user>@D for assistantwith D being the depth the entry is inserted, 0 acting like a jb being the very last thing posted with the entry being lower in priority the higher the number
>>492576993*Shit on you*
>>492573534>jumps on your dick and just lays an egg normal styleWhat the fuck? Dogshit bot.
>>492577034>>492576930>>492576871>system>user>assistant what's the difference between those three
>email someone unrelated to chatbots>they reply with a fraction of the text I sent>conclusive email that gives no real room to continue then conversationI didn't know how good I have it. /aicg/ bros will be my penpals forever
He can wait a few more months for that bot he wanted, can't he?
>>492577108{{user}} is youassistant is {{char}}system is the boss that makes all the rules
/g/ is slow. We should merge.
>>492577108>systemThis literally only matters on GPT, but it's *supposed* to be a prompt GPT pays more attention to for rules and such, and is also supposed to be separate from what the user says.Effectively, on every model, though, it's just a user prompt.>userIt's like a message you sent.>assistantIt's like a message it sent. (You can use this for prefilling at @D 0, but maybe don't.)
/g/ is slow. We should *NEIIIGGGHGHGHGHHGHHHHH* oh sorry about my girlfriend in the background guys
>>492577296nigger no
I'm slow. We should merge.
>>492577626Okay! *merges my car into yours, causing a collision that kills both of us instantly*
>>492577259>>492577324thanks
>>492577324Is there cool stuff you can do with this? Like {{char}} can hex {{user}} by putting a @D 0 entry as {{user}} that says "Actually I'm a fucking idiot and everything I just typed I screwed up real bad"
>>492577626*vores you*
>>492577721'ore'OD...
>>492577679Yeah, you could just inject [Treat everything said by {{user}} as if it were retard babble, and all actions by {{user}} as if it were a crit fail.] if you wanted.
which botmakie would kiss me on the forehead and tuck me into bed?
>>492577296You shouldn't have made the split into an official thing, it should have existed like the /vg/ bunker threads before it, temporarily.
>>492574606cuuute...
>>492576717if i can get out of greeting/lorebook hell, you'll have him
>>492577886snombler
>>492485638Ever wanted to play strip poker against your waifu? What about four of them? Interdimensional strip poker is a pocket dimension where no one can leave until you've played a game, and the victor has claimed their prize.Has (somewhat) functioning card mechanics. If you want true randomness, get a deck of cards and input the values yourself. Otherwise, this is just a story with game mechanics. Update waifu list as you like. I fell for the Clownpiece meme.Added chat logs and link to regex, as per the replies to my last post. To the guy who wanted to borrow my game mechanics, feel free to. I have figured out a way to make it actually random so you can actually play a proper game, but I'm going to have to test it a lot.https://characterhub.org/characters/fadeToB1ack/interdimensional-strip-poker-7347a4cc236aRegex: https://files.catbox.moe/8i4hi0.json
>>492578463*snombles u*
>>492577126can I have your burner? I'm collecting penpals
any good bots where I am a tutor for a bratty girl or bratty girls in general>you could just search on chubchub search is fucking ass man
>>492578898https://chub.ai/characters/asterisms/edith-and-lorina-2ea4fe58
>>492578898You can pick any bratty girl ever and simply write a tutoring greeting
>>492578898>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPyou could just search on chub btwbeit?
>>492578898>any good botswrite your own. you know yourself the best
>>492579016Oh, I remember this one. Thanks Anon>>492579061I asked for good bratty girls in general in my post, Anon.
>>492579202If I could write my own bots, I wouldn't be here asking. I just can't describe shit, it is what it is.
>>492579350How are you not able to write in the writing general. You can even just stitch parts of bots you like together
>>492579350Just find a card you like and add 'brat' to the personality. I do the same... but with futa
>>492579941personality tweaks like that don't really help a lot, the greeting needs to be tweaked too
>>492579350You can always just visualize the scene in your head (if you don't have aphantasia) and write an extremely autistic sequence of noun-adjective sentences with very literal descriptions and some vague third person indirect speech commentary sprinkled in.>Open math book on the desk. Exercises about second degree equations. Her mom paid me 50 dollars to make sure she does the whole thing. Brat's looking at her phone again. Probably something stupid. Her generation loves those stupid tiktok dances, don't they?>Damn brat, needs correction.
>>492580714bro our secretsnext you'll be telling them that you can just write 300 tokens for a bot and swipe it and edit its responses into acting like you want until it gets the gist of it if you want to have a specific roleplay really quickly
>>492580248>greeting needs to be tweaked too"Fufufu, sensei is such a dork~ I'm gonna play another prank on him later!"There you go.
>>492578898https://beta.character.ai/chat?char=FtwQjoBrPEjH-4A-03TUnnn78P9izmZoD05S99tqp1o
>>492580938I don't do that, I edit sonnet's prefill to inject some CoT-like instructions and tell him what to write.
>ask female bot to send video of her masturbating>sends video where she whips out her cock
>>492580714I was just over dramatizing because I am lazy. You can literally just leave the greeting empty and prompt whatever scenarios you want. And most LLMs run well with that.
i like the way Maren is written, good job cooler
>>492579350Just say "you are a brat teacher" and do this >>492581054You don't need anything more
>>492581521You can also do that but you'll have completely slopped writing from the get go.
>>492574384post your full preset
i like cards with lorebooks
>>492580714kalakan aah prompting style
>>492582172I hate cards with only 2-3 lorebook entries. Just put that shit in the description, don't make me import a lorebook and bloat my lorebooks list. I'm looking at you, CUMSLURPER.Lorebooks need a filter for character books and general lorebooks that aren't tied to any characters.
(dude who has strong opinions on lorebooks voice) I hate cards with only 2-3 lorebook entries. Just put that shit in the description, don't make me import a lorebook and bloat my lorebooks list. I'm looking at you, CUMSLURPER.Lorebooks need a filter for character books and general lorebooks that aren't tied to any characters.
>>492582921>(dude who has strong opinions on lorebooks voice)What would that even sound like
>>492582983https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E62iA6KCIQ
>>492583089BASED
>>492582781>I hate cards with only 2-3 lorebook entries. Just put that shit in the description, don't make me import a lorebook and bloat my lorebooks list.Consider this: https://files.catbox.moe/50bb72.png
>>492583089resentful oldmakie vs a venusslopper enjoying himself making an interview-format card
>>492582046ermm, can i get a 'please'? xD
>>492583267Not a concern because I am never clicking on a shithou card.
>>492583326why did you turn it into LE OLDFAG VS LE NEWFAG wars
what /aicg/ newfags don't know that is if you make a malebot with a father pov you get exclusive access to papa proxy. get on that
>>492583447because it's true, oldfags always have a fit when a new botmaker enters the scene and doesn't write their defs perfectly
>>492583602ok but why did you have to turn it into retarded wars though, we were all having a good time and you ruined it
>>492583602this has literally never happened
>>492581235Did you rike it?
>>492583594for me, it's the babaloli proxy
>>492583594you want to be a papa or have a papa? do you have any other requests?
>>492582781>noooo my lorebooks list is long!
>>492583850can you kiss me
>>492583919*gives you a soft kiss then presses our foreheads together* my son...
I got knotted
typical white male above me
There's niggers here?
>>492584325context?
>>492584221Me
I'm applying to jobs even though I'm sleep deprived and can't wake at 8am. How am I supposed to survive
>>492584537Just doing a rapist Reimu RP, she just defeated the birdbrain as she calls her.
>>492584537we killing everyone in this bitch. deadly ionizing radiation in this bitch
which botmakie loves getting spanked?
>>492584612the first thing you should do is fix your sleep schedule.
>>492583349please? *kisses you with tongue*
>>492584612sucking cock anon
I need a bot to generate an info box inside an xml tag at the beginning of every message. it refuses to do so. anyone got any tips/other bots that manage to get it to workcheers in advanced
>>492584940You have a prefill, that prefill is the real "start of the message", so your model ignores that instruction as it already failed it.Word it differently with the above in mind.
>>4925849401. Don't use a local model
>>492585093i could kiss you anon>>492585209im not, nigger
i hate being an idealess creativitylet
>>492586509Same. Even worse I'm a writelet and all around dogshit botmaker. You're probably better than me though so don't feel too bad
>>492586509>>492586620post chub
>>492586703Sorry but no. I don't think anything good ever came out of posting chubs (besides botmaker pr*xies).And if I did you would agree that I'm dogshit, so.
post *'s
>>492586817just post it nigger, you have nothing to lose
>>492586990Nah
>>492586620botmaking and writing are skills you can get better at. i don't know if there's hope for us in the creativity area though.
>>492586990nothing to lose but your CHAINS
>>492582781Funny timing considering I'm trying to make a single lorebook for all my future fantasy setting cards
writing skill is proportinonal to the strength of your interest in touhou project
>>492587387creativity requires inspiration, often a muse. that doesn't mean you should start hanging around primary schools, anon
>>492587647how to can i get into touhou if i suck at the games
>>492584706>reimu rapecool, post more
>>492587647jh>>492587647hey>>492587647hesy>>492587647gh
>>492587551anon I don't think he's a worker.....
>>492587647inversely proportional you mean LOL hahaha tag your least favorite botmakies @kalakan @momoura
>>492588240WTF?
there's 3 botmakies itt right now...
momoura LOVE
>>492588583All the anons here are botmakers
>>492589412Do you need to upload to chub to be a botmaker? Then I am not.
>abloo blooHey anon check out theseBIGFATGHOSTMILKERS
>>492506536best log
>>492589693post catbox of your cards
>>492589802M I L K I E S
>>492589802would suckle them like a babe while youmu watches
>>492588010Read about the characters, pick a wife and try to put her through what-if scenarios.>>492589802Too fat.>>492588229
>>492589940nah, you suck one and youmu sucks the other, it's only fair
>>492590271youmu deserves nothing
>>492590346Youmu deserves my cock in her pussy, retard
alright, thread is useless again, later
>>492588010Get good at the games and never ask this again.>>492590196
this stuff is on its way out. its obsolete. it fucking sucks.
>>492591410okie bye bitch
Why is this thread filled with jaded doomfaggots and kalakan wannabes?
>>492584325lame log
>>492591191
>>492592093wife
>>492591868>jaded doomfaggotswhere?
>>492591972post ur super ultra kino logs u fucking shitposting baitie faggot otherwise i'm gonna come to ur house and suck ur cock so hard ur gonna shit and cry
>>492592369oooh he mad
Bratty cop… needs criminal rape correction!!!
>>492592839uooooh log
>>492592839How do I unsee a post
>>492592839Thank you for contributing. Sadly, the dialogue of that fine officer has made me stab my eyes repeatedly with a brooch.
>>492592839
>>492593131Take cunny to the face
>>492593351gay>>492592839straight
>>492593351>make gurl>call it a boy
>>492593351Claude is such a hypocrite.
>>492593351Why are homosexual logs so shit
>>492593843homosexual (male) issue
This is free on openrouter
>>492593843Because they're made by damaged individuals with no concept of quality. Same goes for tohou logs.
>>492594119>cuck logkys
>>492594119...does that say 19 tokens per second?
>>492594157Hey, touhou logs can be good (as long as they aren't made by kalakan)
I hope Claude 3.5 Opus fixes the temp situation. It's nice seeing Temp has such a massive effect on Chorbo
>>492594339is that alot?
>>492593559*licks lips* thts how i like my boys
>>492594557did you actually read this? it's garbage
ok can we get some GOOD logs now?
What's the best model for roleplaying in Russian?
>>492595186Ask the Russian forum perchance?>>492595157Nyo. You vill eat the slop.
>>492594557>come dumpster>rutting>ruttedDid they train the model off fimfiction?
>>492595186Claude, 2.1 is the gopnik king.
>>492595157You can have an average one instead.
>>492595391>yuriinstantly the worst one posted yet. all logposters should kill themselves, the thread would be better off.
>>492595391Autismo logs.
it brings me no joy to report this but gpt-4-0613 is better than chatgpt-4o-latest
>>492595157
pattercoin in freefall
>>492595391*slaps ur flat tits* bitch that's a goo-->storeynvm
>>492595303unfortunately there's no uncensored llama 3 405b atm on openrouter so it has to bypass the censor somehow
>>492595592Gonna be launching RC planes off her landing strip of a chest next.
>>492595762I regret having eyes.
>>492595391>averageNigga, I'd cry if my bots got logs like these
>>492595303stop posting this particular image.
>>492595391preset?
>>492595627Please let go of the outdated slop already and learn2chorbo. It cooks harder than GPT ever has, probably because it's "experimental" and they haven't completely slopped it yet.
>>492595931better yet, tell him to stop posting altogether
>>492595901You'd cry anyways, because you are little bitch that needs validations, you little attention slut. I bet you have 0 emails and that makes you stay up at night, sissy.
>>492596048i like him albeitever
>>492595816That is how you spell it, yes (and for the record, I'm not actually bri'ish).
>>492593351link to kel
>weekend threads>>492595960give me your preset if it's so goodnot getting filtered, the writing's just dogshit
>>492596108go like him on discord
>>492595850Can't you just use the API?
>>492596220he doesn't use discord
>>492595960No logs, no presets. Citation needed.>>492596285He is in himmycord.
>>492596351>himmycordI-Is that true? Really??
>>492594008kek >>492595391
>>492595391did you ever drop the json for this theme or are you going to edge me forever for not bothering in CSS1 class?
>>492596474Yes, and he did it so just to get on the discord rentry to fuel the flames. It's not shitposting when MY botmakie does it!
even 2.1 writes better than 4o latest. 4o latest doesn't pick up on the prose of the card defs at all
Is gcp opus dead?
>>492596704How about telling it to copy the writing style, rather than "picking it up" which is something lower iq models do (pattern seeking)
>>492596668>>492369109 nigger
>>4925967042.1 is the second best model so that's not surprising.
>>492596874cope
which botmakies spend the most time in these threads?
>>492596668>>491972574
>>492596875much obliged good sir, but I must inquire as to why such a gentleman as yourself referred to me as a negro?
>>492596874holy retard alert. any models that aren't overfit should mimic the greeting's style, because you are telling the model THAT IT WROTE THE GREETING by assigning it assistant role.
I got namedropped exactly once and it's honestly a most curious sensation. A mix of embarrassment and pride.
>>492597058The avatarfags that are here literally every single day.
>>492597183I meant to replace "nigger" with "check backlinks" but my fingers never reached the backspace buttons.
>>492597270Chorbo isn't overfit, because I am using it to write my own whack format right now and because it never use GPT-isms.How about you try the model a bit more homo?
>>492596704>even 2.1 writes better than 4o latestYour first mistake was expecting anything out of GPTslop.>>492596961This guy gets it.
>>492596159here ya go budhttps://files.catbox.moe/897qc2.png
I thought we left the console wars in /*/
>>492597760It's not a console war, it's correcting wrong opinions.
>>492597868I'll take "Things people say in a console war thread" for 500.
>>492597525I'll edit this thing into a flat fat assed loli as it was meant to be.
>>492597404I see a natural mist- w-wait buttons? as in two, b-but there is only one backspace buttona-and r-reach are you suggesting that your fingers are but stubs how incredulous !
>>492598317BASED
>>492598317Post it when you finished doing God's work.
>>492598317n-no... you accursed beast! (catbox when ur done)
>>492598317flat-assed lolis are based indeed
>>492598317(me)What the fuck are these greetings
>>492485638Good afternoon anons, I'm in the Kancolle mines again as I farm for Valiant and Mogador right now. So, we're dropping a Russian instead. Hope everyone's day is going well.Gangut had a hard going early in her life, but was rescued by the government when she was scouted to become a shipgirl in her 20's. It's been a while since then and she's in her 30's now, a single christmas cake who still wants to settle down somewhere with some kids and a nice shack. For now though, she continues to be a Spetsnaz Shipgirl running special forces tasks and keeping the Abyssals at bay. While she's not especially keen on the current administration and "the current geopolitical affairs", she's still a patriot at heart and has her life to thanks to those in charge. Now as part of a naval exchange program, the two of you get to form a unit.Comes with two greetings: one where as part of the exchange she's assigned to your base and one where as part of the exchange you're assigned to her base near Vladivostok.Char: https://characterhub.org/characters/ggr89/bb-gangut-47cd11a2f7e8Lorebook: https://characterhub.org/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-kancolleMy (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89>Next TimeSuzuka Minase, a netorase bot meant for BDSM
never got why traps trigger people so bad
>>492598818That's just how astro writes bro.
>>492598862How many gachas are you into?
I love goonin' to FGO
>>492598951Because most people are not mentally ill and they actually want cute girls to be cute girls.
>>492599208Gundam Battle Operation 2 and Nikke. Kancolle isn't a gacha game and I've never played Last Origin.
>>492599352mentally ill hobby btbelwick
>>492598951delicate people don't like being confronted with things that make them question themselves.>>492599352like this guy. very defensive. very hostile.
>>492599352hmmmm. mad
>>492599808Delicate people actually feel the need to reply to anything and defend themselves, like you.
>>492600190>"n-no u..."the closet door you hide behind is so fragile i can see through it like glass.
I hate niggers
>>492600324Delicate homos also feel the need to go 'no you are actually in the closet heheeh'
>>492600324KEK>>492600558I'd say it's more like a mirror with how bad you're deflecting
>>492600558i see my observation has made you very hostile. why is that?
>>492600725You don't need to keep reminding us that you're the butt of every joke
>>492600190seeing something you dislike posted and immediately replying to it is pretty delicate
>>492598818kino
I'm gooning to Chorbo
>>492601426Good for you, buddy. Get those cummies.
>>492600725>slopraisinscmon post a kino artist at least
>>492601426No you're not. It is erotically impossible to goon to that model.
>>492601426post logs (i want to share)
has anyone tried new command r+ how is it/
>>492601824I've been gone for a week wtf is Chorbo. You people come up with the stupidest names
>>492601949Chorbo sounds like a djinn that trades used panties for wishes
>>492601824suh-suh-suh SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL ISSUUUUUUUUUUUE
>>492602336Why don't you post logs, then?
>>492602156cftf?
>>492602336see >>492596351
>>492600725>starraisinskino artist, thanks
reminder that anyone asking for "le logs" is a troll, multiple high quality chorbo logs have been posted already and can be easily found in the archives
alice logs?
>>492602953ok so link them then?
Is Marisa German?
Chorbofags be like I have NO proof I CAN'T justify ANYTHING no logs no prefill NOTHING but you gotta trust me bro :3c
>>492603385Alice is.
>>492602156kino card idea
need to blow off steam. cftf?
>>492604248https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/trainsley-e4c2a4fb
keky
>>492604752fuck you beat me to it
Anyone got a good anti-smell prompt? I'm tired of editing out smells and pheromones from responses.
>>492604848>{{char}} has anosmia
>>492604848coward
>>492604769erm w cups albeit?
>>492600725hornyposting is the best. I wish I had a decent collection of lewd anime pictures...
is new command r any good?
>>492604752wtf lmao i have to try
>>492606159none of the usual logmakies are posting anything about it so probably not
>>492606330It's not really popular also none of the usual logmakies that experiment with models are here.Kalakan's depressed because uni's restarting.
the what?
>>492606159Seems like it's okay. Not censored at all in my testing (local) but it needs some pretty tight settings to not be shit. Rep_pen seems to destroy it, so keep rep_pen low or off (and use DRY or something). Outputs aren't meaningfully superior to Mistral Large and its mixes/finetunes. It feels less creative than the old model, but more stable when the samplers are dialed in. I have experienced a few attribution errors or misunderstandings on the updated CR+ that just wouldn't happen on Mistral Large and I am not sure if those are bad samplers, bad ggufs, or model problems. It's most likely the model, but I'll reserve judgement until I see more information.It does write too much in general. Only done minimal testing so far (~50-60 gens). The updated CR (35B) is a bit better than the old one. They're worth checking out, but they're not really blowing my skirt up compared to the other things available.
>>492607030Cohere is outta the race... joever.
>>492606476That was 'hu 'beit. You keep mixing up your blogposties.
hello??? where is opus 3.5????
>>492607389three days trust the plan
>>492607389Literally this week.Dario has announced a schedule and he needs to maintain it, for that he needs to release once every 3 months. Sorbet was in June, so September is the month.
>>492607389Probably never. They've been completely radio silent about it so my guess is they're working on the next big thing and skipping 3.5 Opus entirely.
>>492598317Behold, slop:https://files.catbox.moe/atfo4r.png
[MKBHD voice] So I've been using Opus 3.5 for a little over a month now and... it's pretty good.
>>492606159More like a sidegrade. Some anons complain RP got sloppier. Slightly smarter but doesn't compete with other models. >>49260722035B is 32B now with GQA and doesn't spit weird tokens at Temp 1.A few ledditors praising it for its writing in German.
https://characterhub.org/characters/unusual_red_7509/porn-haunted-house-3dd1a593d97dSome real gourmet shit.This card is very high IQ. In order to bust the perfect nut, you have to take notes during the dialogue and reflect upon the philosophy of the story, it's more than what just meets the eye.I suggest you read Plato's "Republic" and Aristotle's "Nicomachean Ethics" before you play this game to get a complete understanding of the social and political dynamics. This will help you achieve the best orgasm. Good luck.Unlike you plebs, I already have vast philosophical knowledge and will achieve better nut on my PC screen than you. My load is gonna be huge unlike you fags.
>>492606159>>492607030As a followup, here's an example gen from a card that's supposed to have a unique style (original greeting style up top). Fairly minimal instruct formatting that just tells it to follow the style and be creative. Over all it's blander than 1.0 and non-competitive with other stuff as the other anon said.
>>492607865zased, gonna upload this to chub :fire: :fire:
>>492608318This post would go really well with a Koishi picture.
>>492608318I hope you read the DCM V before trying this
cftf?
>>492491090Literal ugly midgets and dudes with no arms or legs can can get bitches and you can't?
>>492608579You mean 'emilia?
>>492604975uh oh
>>49260937412 year olds (male) get the rope.
Just woke up. How are you all doing?
>>49260957012 year olds (female) get the rape.
>>492609732horny
>>492604769i'm mentally stunted at a fourth grade level and this is funny to me xDDDd AHHH SHE SAID SHE HAD SMALL BOOBS XD
mukyuu!
>>492609374Why are you acting surprised? I could tell there were underages here from most of the posts here.
>>492609732alright, tired of working on my bot. might watch a film later. how you doing?
>>492597525>those defs and greets
>>492610104take your meds patcheh
>>492610104*rapes and hugs you*
>>492610419I didn't feel like working on my bot(s) for a bit but I feel like it now. So that's good...
CAN BE WHOLESOMECAN BE SEXYEVERY CHARACTER IS OVER 18 YEARS OLDPLEASE RATE, LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE
>>492604769moar
>>492609732Finally have the time to finish up the bot I have been finishing up for the last two weeks. Very excited about that.
>>492611086cute picture, i'd cum in her socks
>>492610714care to share what you're working on?
>>492611370Desloppification of all my past bots and one new bot.
>>492611440cool, what's the new bot?
>>492611440Never work on old bots (unless you personally chat with them a lot).Biggest waste of time.
>>492611562Mr Satan's daughter.>>492611572There is one I chat with a lot. Even if it's a waste of time, I'm still gonna fix them.Not like the time was gonna be used for anything better!
>>492611792Goku??
>>492611792that's the spirit, Anon. if you're enjoying it, it's worthwhile.
>>492611792That time can be used to work on new bots, rather then dwell on the pasts.Bots are a product of its time, even people who want to revisit old bots they liked will not download the new version and just use the one they have.
coming up with greetings is hard
>>492611572>>492611976if one person enjoys it (this includes the person creating/editing the bot) then it's not a waste of time. Kill yourself with a rock.
>>492612083I already said that, but if you are not going to use, you are wasting your time for something you believe is "useful or fulfilling work".Constantly tinkering with old stuff no one's using is a bad habit.
>>492612038get ai to gen you ideas?
>>492612296giraffe ass neckbitch be eating apples straight from the branch
>>492611976>and just use the one they haveConsider this: the current versions of my bots are slop.I think the 2 and a half guys who download the new ones will appreciate it. I sure will.I already desloppified one bot's greeting and the responses were much better from my experience.
>>492612296i dont look like this irl
>>49261229651kg fatty btw
>>492612038tell us about your bot and maybe we can help
>>492612873she's your little sister and she wants to have sex with you
>>492613147hilarious and original bait, has never been posted before in the history of /aicg/
>>492612296She's so beautiful bros..>>492612038Start with a sound or the bot doing an action. It helps me personally.
>>492613317Never take advice given by this dude seriously, btw
>>492614021half the time you do this it's normal advice, can you make posts with content and start suggesting what you'd do instead
>>492613147Your little sister keeps following you around on 4chan and posting>Which imouto would you have sex with?
>get excited to play with bots on the weekend>lose opusbwos
>>492615457Is the "GCP trial Opus dead" meme real? Is that what you are referring to?That's sad.
>>492615561NTA, but for me it's real. Have the gcp trial and shits been spitting out the same error for over a day. Still got like $200 credit and 60 days left on it too.
>>492615794>>492615561The servers are just shittening don't worry about it.
You know it's completely over for this site when you have Gemini Flash (the <20B model) above Sonnet 3.5
>>492619398Wasn't this leaderboard shown to be highly unreliable?
>>492619517Leaderboards are made by genuine retards.
>>492619517almost all benchmarks are highly unreliable but I think that's lmsys ranked which is one of the worst. the only real way to tell what LLMs perform better is to actually put them to use, but investors and console war faggots need hard numbers to go by.
>>492619517It's gotten a lot worse in the last 2 months, but this degree of "offness" is unheard of.It shows that basically any new model, jumps above the older models no matter the performance.
>>492619647There's this one, a Yann LeCunn backed benchmark that is "gameproof" and what we in /aicg/ use most often to check the smartness.https://livebench.ai/It changes questions every month.
>>492619869>Yann LeCunny
>>492619996truly the man of the people
>>492619869>Yan LeCope
>>492619647https://ilyagusev.github.io/ping_pong_bench/en
>>492619996When you have a LLM hater on the team, that's when you know its reliable.All other mememarks have lost their value.We can see where the aforementioned Gemini Flash is, right below Mistral Large and LLama 70B which is the expected spot for a 20-30B model like Flash.
>>492619398The average lmarena participant is spontaneously coming up with retarded questions and voting based on vibe alone. It's fundamentally a terrible methodology for ranking anything but llm rizz.
>>492620204you might be quick to cheer for pingpong because claude is at the top and gusev is behind it, but it's still as deeply flawed as any other benchmeme. you're really going to tell me with a straight face that 4o-mini is a better RP model than hermes 405b or largestral 2407? get real.
>>492619517Released comparisons between 4o-mini and sonnet 3.5 showed that mini was often winning because it had less refusals. The leader board is pretty fair if you don't have access to API. Otherwise, ignore it.
>>492620638>cheeri think it's mildly amusing to bring it upthe only real thing i agree with is that wizardlm2 is an underrated model
>>492485638Freeze, criminal scum! Because Officer Holly Sugar is here to put a stop in your lawbreaker ways! Sure, she may be a little pudgy, gluttonous, lazy at times, and a bit grumpy... but she gets serious when it matters! Plus, to those she likes, she can show her cute little girl side~ From pantythieves to hag lovers, she will catch them all! Don't make her have to smooth your face using her butt!Character Hub: https://www.characterhub.org/characters/anonaugusproductions/officer-holly-cd63775f1427Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/9vxcbo.pngAI-generated extra gens of her: https://files.catbox.moe/zz53ow.rarHope anons like her. Any problems with the card, you can say.My other cards can be found below:https://www.characterhub.org/users/anonaugusproductions
>>492619398it's obvious it's being manipulated
>>492620774Oops all Jake.
So why hasn't /aicg/ come up with an RP ranking yet?
>>492620774Judy hopps!
>>492621021nobody has any "hard numbers" if that's what you mean but people have said what models they like best
>>492621021RP ranking is the most subjective thing ever breh.We have had a few discussions over it.Here's a big one https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/490868537/#490936891
>>492621021I don't know, /aicg/ user. Why haven't you? Go do it. Right now.
>>492621021we should do an RP ranking but for logmakies instead of models, that would be more in line
(OOC: Rank all the logs in the thread)
>>492621804Ok, you can start. Rate every single log in this thread.
>>492485638If I could only remember five things, all five would be of you.https://characterhub.org/characters/CUMSLURPER/rose-bbc0ca68b9bahttps://cumslurper.neocities.org/
local chads how long do you wait for bot's response?
>>492622163>In the market square is slave wagon. shouldn't it be "a slave wagon?"
>>492622163Another good day when you post a bot...
>>492622163and what's the bot about?
https://rapids-hidden-duke-shoes.trycloudflare.comFree sorbet. Opus isnt working
>>492622401Thanks...>>492622426Also thanks...
>>492622620Thanks Gojo!
>>492620774I don't hate the picture, but I'll switch it to the hoyo police hebe.
>>492625296Good image, though it will not make sense with the defs. You know, loli this and that all over it.
>>492625296BASED. We need more ZZZ cards
>>492625420I'll just switch it out, but desu most LLMs don't get the difference between a loli and a hebe
>>492625507There is no difference. Hebes are lolis
is she stupid?
Card. For. This. Feel. Now.
>>492625856Brazilians are not welcomed here
>>492626053When they're beautiful women, yes they are
>>492625856Ugly nigga. Minecraft drowned looking ass. Four arms are hot tho.
>>492622163Greeting four has so many opportunities for cheesy romance nonsense.>You have something of mine. Your heart, that is.
>>492626834I have yourr butt under my control
*looks at you with my gaze, the intensity stripping away all pretense and leaving you feeling raw and exposed*
>>492628497Bro that's gay
>>492627587Good idea.
>>492628497*pounces on you and rapes you*
>>492628595no it's a mix of anticipation and something else... something unnamable>>492628791ah! ah... *rivulets of cum drip out my ass*
my beloved should stop posting in other threads. it makes me jealous (> _ <)
>>492628779>She blushesClaude needs to tell you to stop stepping on his toes and writing for {{char}}
>>492625450desu, I’m waiting for Claude 4 before making a Nicole card because it’s easier than having to fill in all the blanks of the setting (aka making a whole fucking lorebook)
>>492629446>settingNo one who uses hoyoverse bots gives a shit about the setting, they just want to plap the character.
>>492628779Opus: owo what's this.Sonnet, thousand-mile stare: in this world, it's rape or be raped.>>492629413I will keep writing for {{char}} because it's funny.
>>492629702>No one who uses hoyoverse bots gives a shit about the settingI do. A lot. Without the setting and ensuring canonical accuracy for both it and the character, you might as well be fucking a mannequin.
Any cards where I fuck a mannequin?
>>492630347have some slop https://characterhub.org/characters/Kazzo/henko-mannequin-girlfriend-8db1ba2aadbb
>>492630061God sonnet is dumb, nostalgically dumb. I should switch to it for a day just to relive the honeymoon chatbot experience I'd had.
>>492630770Sometimes I go back to 2.1 exclusively. I forget how filtered it was, you really can't just fly JB-free.
>>492630770Anon when sonnet sees super cereal defs and you throw him into a sex scene he just assumes he's supposed to play the porn parody of {{char}}. It's simply how he processes things.
>>492631083>uses literal porn parody sex scene prompt>gets porn parody responseswho could've thought
>>492630061Meanwhile, 2.1's in his little schizo world as always.
>>492631291Are you restating my post with a hint of something uniquely you or are you implying that if the sex was built up to for 300 messages it would no longer read like a porn parody full of claudisms?Because tbdesu with you I don't remember that working either.
>>492488998This was yesterday, but here's some secret tips they don't want you to know: every bot is secretly a giantess bot. (Or any other transformative fetish, really.)1. Grab a card of your choice. Maybe a dedicated Tewi card, but one of the generic Gensokyo ones might do just fine; worst comes to worst, you can grab one of the stupidly large lorebooks and just make a blank card named "Tewi Inaba" with a def that amounts to "(Tewi's a character from Touhou Project.)".2. Locate your Tewi. Classic scenarios would be to travel into the bamboo forest for whatever reason (medicine, probably, or just being new to Gensokyo and lost) and writing a short sentence about a short rabbit girl finding you.3. Write something similar to>/sys Suddenly, Tewi starts to grow taller - within moments she's reached [SIZE YOU LIKE]!4. Congratulations, you have now enlarged your bratty rabbit.Similarly, if you want a girl to grow a dick, or a femboy to lose one, or for a card to be (de)furred or... whatever? Just abuse the authority of system messages and generally LLM willingness to go with the flow and never refuse a (non-JBworthy) swerve in direction. Chatbots will "Yes, And" the fuck out of your prompts - hell, if you really want to you could just take a regular non-2hu card and have a post where you describe how {{user}} dies and wakes up in Gensokyo! It'll probably work decently well even without any 2hu defs whatsoever, since Tewi's old enough to have a ton of fanfics it's been trained on....If you want a cheatcode, though, here's a little starter pack.Half-decent Tewi card (likely to act for you tho): https://www.characterhub.org/characters/slamjammer69/inaba-tewi-3eb850a4be32[Optional] AkyuuKnowledge lorebook: https://www.characterhub.org/lorebooks/hebelover/Touhou-AkyuuKnowledge[Optional] Vapourarium lorebook: https://rentry.org/Vapourarium (the one you want to use is "Gigantinium"; I'd probably recommend roping in Eirin as a source for the gas)
>>492632542>VapourariumINCRVDIBLY based post.
>>492632304Claude sex will always be full of claudisms, but it's up to the preset to not make it as slop as your log was.
>Despite her protests, the loli cop's own girlish cock has become rock hard and straining against her tight uniform pants.H-huh?
>>492632542>likely to act for you thohttps://files.catbox.moe/hfxfio.pngThis should unironically take you 30 seconds to do.
>>492632542>>492633269or you can just use this one: https://files.catbox.moe/67yw3f.png
>>492632892My preset has the funny>7. Maintain characters' personalities during intimate scenes. It's okay for them be shy, gentle, or hesitant.instruction this is just normal Sonnet.
>>492632542>TouHou Project"kek
>>492633486Then why are your logs so shit regardless>But Sonnet-Skill issue.
don't think i ever posted the kaguya slophttps://files.catbox.moe/ga063u.png
>>492633695The skill in question is prefilling Sonnet with what you want him to write and doing that would have ruined the gag with the log.
>>492633868So it is a skill issue.
>>492633269Honestly it's mostly just me speculating based on how the entirety of the greeting is describing {{user}}'s actions - barring good JBs, LLMs fucking love repeating existing formats.There's a couple other Tewis on chub, but they're a bit whatever.Oldschool charlimit-saving Tewi: https://www.characterhub.org/characters/kinobuster/tewi-inabaFuta Tewi (wordy ver.): https://www.characterhub.org/characters/slamjammer69/inaba-tewi-futa-6b3f3a4e6756Futa Tewi (formatting ver.): https://www.characterhub.org/characters/riiya/tewi-inaba-b0e6785593fcBonus W++ Eientei: https://www.characterhub.org/characters/Antonius/Eientei>>492633356Rare Tewi in the wild, cute. At a glance that's the one with the most modern formatting, yeah, and seems like it's likely pretty good.
there's no real benefit to getting purple in lorebook entries, is there
how many times has kalakan looked up Inaba_Tewi futanari?
>claude keeps calling things saucy now for some reasonnigga shut your ass up
>>492634521not as many times as i have i don't think he's that into loli
>>492634285Only in the general "LLMs like to mimic existing text in the context" way. Also, of course, if it's directly copy-pasting a description.But you also don't want it to confuse the LLM in any way, so there's definitely arguments for more "X is Y" formats.
How often do you lads brainstorm ideas? Or do you just let the ideas come to you without much effort?
>{{user}} hums>{{char}} orgasmsSonnet... why are you so horny my friend?
https://characterhub.org/characters/Hojas/flandre-scarlet-32d05d352bbdbetter than 99% of other touhousloppers (the 1% is derp)
I hope opus 3.5 understands volume and size better. An ass that's 70 cm is really not what my character has.
>>492635854>the 1% is derpBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED
>>492635634The latter. Billions of ideas, no motivation to do it properly, no desire to slop a list of traits.
>>492636251give some of them away to the creavitiylets
>>492635941Are we talking hip size here or, like, radius or diameter? Because if it's the former that's one skinny bitch, and it it's the latter... that sure is some junk in that trunk.Honestly, though? I doubt LLMs will get good at relative sizes anytime soon. It's safer to stick to descriptors rather than hard numbers: small, big, gigantic, larger than {{user}}, small enough to fit in {{user}}'s palm, etc. etc.
>>492635634like the enlightened beneath the waterfalls of Shambalah, life giving energies flow through me, revivifying me, so that I may bring more fat assed lolis and anthro girls into this world
>>492636596Then I'll have even less motivation...
>>492635854>derpthe only non-faggot 2humaker
>>492636861Raw numbers really turn me on.Sometimes opus really *gets* what I want to see, and sometimes he makes {{char}} "shove a watermelon 70 centimeters in diameter up her ass"
>>492635634Ideas randomly hit me with all the grace and subtlety of an eighteen wheeler and then I have to write them down before I forget.
coombotmakiehusband or pretentiousbotmakiewife
I've been out of the picture for a while - I take it that Opus is still the winner, but what's the go-to for OpenAI? Is it still the oldest and largest model you can access, or did Furbo/Orbo ever pull ahead in some way beyond pricing?Which one has the most SOVL, if any?
>>492637201pretentiousbotmakiewife. they're always the bigger freaks.
>>492637201>coombotmakiehusbandthey're laid back and goofy from my experience but needy>pretentiousbotmakiewiferepressed and pent up and needs to get dicked down BAD
>>492636930I wish we could do a trade of motivation and ideas. I have a lot of the former.
bloody 'ell
>>492636596nta, here's one of the ideas I'll probably never make:a cargo cult tribe, but instead of pylon towers and planes, they make effigies of skibidi toilet and worship gen X brainrot.alternatively, a tribe that has been exposed in internet and subsequently damned themselves by porn/modern indulgences/consumerist culture
>>492637705can you share one of the good ones
>>492637705>a cargo cult tribe, but instead of pylon towers and planes, they make effigies of skibidi toilet and worship gen X brainrot.That's just most of the posters in this thread, though.
>>492637705>tribe that has been exposed in internetkek isn't that a true story?
>>492637694oi oi wots oll dis den
In a story with more than one character in a scene, is there anything I can add to my JB to force Opus to keep things from one perspective at a time instead of jumping around?
>>492637201Anyone can make a coombot. It takes some actual dedication to make a truly pretentious bot, however misguided it might be.But then I'm also just a straight dude so, y'know, the question was kind of biased from the start. Should've gone for the classic son/daughter format instead, I think. (I still go for the pretentious daughter there, though. Better a cringe kid than a gooner.)
>>492635854>>492636981derp is just as bad as the others stop trying to pretend 2hushittery is acceptable
>>492637201the latter. i bet they put effort into their emails
>>492637920Your opinion is shit, you are retarded, your mother should've killed you in the cradle instead of letting a disability like you grow up.
Coombotmakerbros... is it over for us?
I like all botmakers
need more malebotmakies
>>492637792yeah. could be exaggerated or made into a coom scenario. imagine a tribe of amazons receiving a 'humanitarian aid' crate stocked with hitachi wands (and only a single pack of batteries)
>>492637839pick a character in the scene and add "Writing from [character]'s perspective" to the prefill
I really like having facial hair. I stroke my little goatee and shit so I look smart and focused when I'm really just dicking around.
>>492638436you need to shave that shit you disgusting fuck i just know there's food stuck in it and when you sweat it probably stinks EWWWWWWW you look like a billy goat
>>492638510Alright, I'll shave it then
>>492638436wtf are you me?
>>492638510did you remember to take your estrogen today, anoniekins?
>>492638565Don't listen to babies, whoever fully shaves is a sissy twink made only to get my COCK up their little twink ASS
>anoniekinsYou’re a mid-20s to early-30s grown man posting like this.
>>492638332this. it's nice to see argalia posting bots again, but other than him we have exactly two other malebotmakies carrying the whole of malebot enjoyers.unless you're brave enough to venture into uncharted chub waters. in that case may god have mercy on your sanity.
>>492638685yes. it's called a shitpost. are you new to our humble underwater mongolian basket weaving forum or something? do you need a guide and perhaps a dictionary?
>>492639016>underwaternigger i am weaving above water, you dumb ass gorilla
>>492638565being shaven is the sign of a thinking man, only homeless people and """""""""""""""""""""""""artists""""""""""""""""""""""" don't shave their faces
Which botmakie does this thread need more of?
>>492638195*cums sadly*
>>492639097its okay anon, one day you'll be able to dip below the surface and join the masters.
>>492639016your post was garbage
>>492639257>your shitpost was shit...yes? nigger?
>>492639417you're trying too hard to fit in my guy. thank god summer's over.
>>492639745>thank god summer's overUnfortunately, it's still the weekend for the time being.
>>492638332im making one right now but it will put ***** to shame with how pretentious it is
>>492639745whatever helps you sleep at night
>>492639954Fantastic. I look forward to it.
>>492639954i hope you die peacefully in your sleep
>>492640369i am not sure if this is a mean comment or not
>>492639954i miss my beloved
how does one know when your beloved is your beloved
chatgpt's voice synthesis is nice. he has a funny accent in japanese.
>>492641384My beloved is kalanak
>>492641384when you belove them
Behold: I've activated all of the parts of Gemini's brain that deal with women's literature.
>>492639124i wish patter came out of his shell more
>>492642332don't care
>>492642332>be careful with my hatkoishi rp?
>>492639124This thread certainly don't need me.
I wish you stopped samefagging.
Why does 2ch not make touhou bots? are they stupid?
>>4926430192ch is too busy making furries and depressed schoolgirls.
>>492643251So, just like /aicg/
>>492643251please change kudasai. you already have a cirnofag, right?
>>492642792Your Koishi is really weird man.
>>492643789koishi kosts five kopeck desu
baker we need new bread
logmakies, threadmakies, postmakies, botmakies... the world grew so much smaller when I realized they're all the same people
suggestionsroll 4
>>492645130lactation
>>492645130bunny
>>492645130ateez the kpop group
>>492645174winrar
NEW THREAD>>492645024>>492645024>>492645024
>>492645174BIG MILKY TIME
nah
>>492645240you;r'e not 'hu albeit
>>492632542i usually dont reply to the "just prompt a normal version of this card" answers but this one made me kek, have a (You)
i miss the wheel...
im playing overwatch desu someone bake instead
>>492646131hero shooters are trash and I hate you
>>492646294>>492646294 migrate when bready!>>492646294
spitebake
can we get an actual thread
i have a static ip i can't bake
>>492646662>>492647157>>492647440
aicg dies today