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>What is this?
Blue Archive with Katanas but officially has nothing to do with Blue Archive

>Where can I get it?
Not announced yet.
Comiket 105 might or might not have a VN and art books.

>PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auvjsSG8ch4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3F1ggL69aQ

>Official Websites
https://dynamisone.co.kr/
https://www.projectkv.co.kr/

>Twitter
https://x.com/DynamisOne

>namu wiki
https://namu.wiki/w/%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EC%A0%9D%ED%8A%B8%20KV
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>>493004203
give it to me straight bros what are the odds the gameplay is good?
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>>493004314
Gameplay?
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>>493004314
Game?
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>>493004314
You will press the screen to advance the story and you will like it.
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>>493004314
They don't seem to me like a gameplay-focused group of people so keep your expectations low
Cute Cardigan btw
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>>493004314
100000000% kino
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>>493004314
there will be gameplay only if you e2 your cardigan
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>>493004314
>gacha
>gameplay
these are slotmachines for gambling addicts in denial
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>A. Kim Yong-ha PD: Well. We need to continue to develop the game. In fact ,the Blue Archive is on track, from the end of last year to the beginning of this year < Blue Archive>is the' General manager ' of the project only in the big picture I checked my progress. Instead, I was concerned about the development of a new work named <Project RX> There was.

It's all over for project kivotos
The real blue archive devs are working on a real blue archive sequel
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>>493005197
koreans do know 5 years cycle
they definitely have a plan for BA2
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>>493004314
Insurmountable headcanons
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>>493005197
>isakusan's spite and grudges will have to compete with Blue archive and Blue archive 2
bros I think we're not gonna make it
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>>493004961
No bully
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>>493005197
Yeah I think the RX project would most likely be an open world Kivotos but you know, the real BA sequal is happening at KV not Nexon.
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https://x.com/DynamisOne/status/1830856220602978583?s=19

Spoonfeed me please. What happened?
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>Q. And then <Blue Archive>is the word of "Moe X-COM", so the first start name is "Moe X-COM". It was < Project MX>. What does < RX>stand for?
>A. Kim Yong-ha PD: It's a secret. (Laughter) The current team setting and the direction of the project are all on track It's a new work, and I previously worked on two development PD's at Blue Archive Cha Min-seo PD is leading well, so it's not far from the users. It seems to be possible to disclose. When that time comes, we'll explain it in more detail.

Shots fired, get fucked isakusan. Low budget BA ripoff vs Big budget BA sequel
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>>493004314
>gameplay
>gacha
You can only pick one
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>>493005816
discount eris (child)
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>>493005759
they're apologizing for being retarded and reuploaded the official trailer to hide all the massive dislikes and comments shitting on it
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>>493005197
>>493005776
Doesn't this just confirm Kim Yong Ha wants to work on something else? It seems like blue archive is near the end of its lifecycle if
>face of the game is working on rx
>second-in-command leaves the company and makes a clone
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>>493005197
Throwing away everyone's progress to make a new game would make the players more likely to try other games, wouldn't it?
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>>493005776
They did a Q&A ??
Link
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>>493005776
>>493005994
BA's been barely explored yet, why the fuck are we already getting a sequel?
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>>493005816
>When she hears some tard talking shit about Master and invokes the spirit of Kami-sama
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The Yostar anime realy did a trick on BA's future, huh.
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>>493005816
Arknights is both a gacha and has gameplay
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>>493005759
From the last thread >>492964779
They fucked up because they can't participate in comiket if they are an actual company. They privated the video because they wanted to remove the doujin circle announcement to pretend it the doujin has nothing to do with Dynamis One.
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>>493005458
And those who imbued with and shaped the spirit of BA are all in KV.
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we need an actual shooter for the game that's all about guns
not another gacha visual novel with AI """""""gameplay""""""""
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>>493005776
hahaha project kv is so fucked
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>>493003434
>Dynamisone established exactly 21 days later
This is lining up almost too perfectly.
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>>493006364
That game already exists and it's also a waifugame.
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>Nips complaining about the shitty translation
Hope that the VN gets a proper translator because right now they're only dealing with Nexon fanboys, the angry Yostar fanboys will follow if the translation is shit.
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>>493006863
its ok our god isakusan will run it through deepl
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>>493006360
Thanks anon
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why doesn't isakusan just learn japanese?
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>>493006968
I personally like using multiple translators at once and mashing them together into something more coherent :3
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>>493006360
everyone already knows their circle has everything to do with their BA ripoff though
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>>493007178
They're not smart
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>>493007307
Jp director seems like a retard and I wonder how he snagged the ceo position. Must have the best dicksucking lips in Korea.
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>>493006863
It must be especially grating for them since the setting is in a pseudo-classical Japan, they have the visual aesthetics down but all of that effort will be for nothing if the characters are all talking in broken JSL.
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>>493004314
cardigan will never get an alt due to your betrayal
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>>493006083
>shut down ba, no refunds
>release ba2
>whales have to whale all over again because they're addicted
Genius move, really. Nothing can go wrong.
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>weeb with an ego of a mountain
>refuses to learn japanese because he's too good for it
>leaves a dream job that pays better than CEO to make a cheap knockoff everyone hates
I used to respect this guy so much like three months ago, what the fuck even happened?
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>>493008013
Nexon doesn't need KV in order to kill BA, they can do it themselves.
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>>493006830
*plaps*
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>>493008196
Is he really a weeb if he doesn't know the rules to comiket even after BA being on top for a few years running?
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Schizo theory
These devs got poached but they are doing this comiket thing to seem natural. There's no way someone quits a high paying job to do risky shit that puts everything on the line.
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>>493008196
Having an ideal is not the same as living up to it. As most of /bag/ could attest
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>>493008196
>pays better than CEO
this is misinformation tho
he only once paid better than CEO for a bonus
his regular salary is of course way lower than CEO's
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>>493008485
Yeah, you can be a weeb but doesn't mean you have to be smart. Especially if you have a massive ego like most 4chan posters these days that believe they're too good for things.
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Remember
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>>493008823
kino
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>>493008526
>There's no way someone quits a high paying job to do risky shit that puts everything on the line.
Happens all the time in CN shit actually where some artist has a whiny fit and leaves to do their own thing. If project RX and KV come out at the same time then nexon is gonna mating press isakusan
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>>493008823
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>>493009054
Don't really care about RX, sounds like it will be soulless
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>>493007110
He obviously understands the Japanese like many otaku culture enjoyers but there is a clear level gap between understanding it and writing compelling works with the language.
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>actual sequel to blue archive is going to be soulless
>ripoff from some jealous retard is going to be soul
do you isakusan cumslurpers even listen to yourselves
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Has anyone ever had success as a writer writing in a language they learned as an adult?
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>>493009869
That jealous retard is the reason I'm playing BA. Would have dropped it much sooner if Vol 3 didn't amaze me.
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>>493009054
Don't really care about KV, sounds like it will be soulless
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>>493009869
the logic is isakusan -> soul
so no soul -> no isakusan
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>>493005816
GFL 2
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is this thread just gacha drama general plus a couple isakusan dickriders?
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>>493009869
>Loyal to the title, company = drone
>Attach yourself to the actual creators and artists = human
It is so simple but seemingly not for you.
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>>493010612
Why ask a question you know the answer to?
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Isakusan is a no-talent hack and that's why every single baggot is acting like some jilted bitch about him leaving.
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>>493010612
I don't blame the isakusan dickriders, I mean, even concord had 30 active players because SOMEONE has to keep the lights on and it just so happens to be them.
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>>493010612
no drama at all
just "isakusan dickriders vs nexon dickriders" shenanigans
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Isakusan emits massive tatsuki miasma
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kvamas did nothing wrong
i am watching toji no miko as we speak
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>>493010714
>Don't attach yourself to anything and form your own opinions
Oh wait, that's too hard for kids these days that need to be told what to think and make things their entire personalities. My bad.
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STEAKS?
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>>493005759
>please see our explanation in this thread
>they dont make a thread, they just keep commenting so you have to look for the posts
good lord man
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>>493010920
tatsuki won and kadokawa lost tho
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>>493011116
Tatsuki shit out a mid anime and nothing else afterwards
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>>493011026
>form your own opinions
Is "I think Isakusan is a good writer" not an opinion someone could form?
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Blue archive = HI3
Project KV = PGR
Project RX = Genshin
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>>493010920
tatsuki is actually sovful and was the good guy in the history though
isakusan is just another corrupt exec and he is acting exactly like nexon
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I know it's popular to shit on KV right now and call it a failure but what if KV ends up actually good though? Like better than BA good?
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>>493010782
>BA and it's Nexon 'sequel' will be TOTALLY fine without Isakusan, Hwansang, mx2j, Doremi, original 3D animators and the main staff!
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>>493011107
they're a bunch of retards with inflated egos which is why everyone keeps shitting on them but the dickriders think they literally can't do any wrong and came up with the best idea of the decade
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>>493011191
kemurikusa still sold way better than kf2
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>>493011293
By that logic project kv would actually be very good, which is probably not what you were trying to say.
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>>493011574
Didn't even mention kf2? He did kemurikusa which was mid and then nothing else because he's a hack.
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>>493011458
There's an official interview with the producer himself where he says that yes, BA's perfectly fine and their pipeline of content remains unaffected with them even having the manpower to spare on development of a new game.
Meanwhile isakusan can't even register to comiket properly by himself without fucking it up
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>>493011425
half your opinion is going to be biased because of the drama and you believing isakusan is a good guy though
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>>493010854
whose dick is better?
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>>493011795
>doesnt know twitter threads
>doesnt know the rules of comiket despite BA ruling it for years
>never bothered to learn japanese and much less English so his VN will be in korean or machine translated japanese
>still thinks he's good enough to kill blue archive with a cheap knockoff
good lord the ego on the man
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>>493011795
are you actually retarded? of course he'll say everything's fine and going smoothly even if it wasn't, that's his job
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>>493011821
You're dodging my question. I want to know how you'd react if the game ended up good, in your eyes. I'm fully prepared for it to either become a trashfire or stay vaporware forever but it'd be more interesting if it actually delivers despite so many people wishing for it to fail.
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>>493010848
SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH
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I think kids forgot how big of a company Nexon is
Maplestory is literally older than you
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>>493004314
The less of a game there is the better. In BA it was just a chore that you did to get through to the story.
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>>493011821
How is he a bad guy though?
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>>493012414
NOOOO THEY'RE DYING BECAUSE MY FAVORITE GUY LEFT ITS OVER FOR NEXON OWARI
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>>493011795
>the producer of BA says BA is fine
Same vibes of
>the police department did a self-inspection with no outside participation and determined that they aren't corrupt
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>>493012532
uhhh umm he left the company!
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>>493012159
>still thinks he's good enough to kill blue archive with a cheap knockoff
Why do you assume he has some kind of vendetta against Blue Archive? Maybe he just wants to do his own thing.
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>>493011293
Project KV is more like tower of fantasy honestly. Soulless ripoff with no substance.
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>>493008196
https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/240628b_en
Does this really sound like someone with an inflated ego? If anything he sounds almost too humble. If you want my completely baseless take, I'm going to say that Nexon tried to put him on a much higher pedestal than he was comfortable with, starting from volume F with the "story by isakusan" bit in the intro, and the same shit again at the end of V1C3. He didn't enjoy the cult of personality that was forming around the work that he barely acknowledged as more than the typical salaryman job. I also am willing to argue that everything I said is complete bullshit and the dude has just lost his mind, because the recent marketing campaign with KV has been an absolute travesty.
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>>493012414
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfGrn0yV9Dc
You'd think Nexon would use MapleStory's popularity to set a good example though
But even MapleStory is going through another yearly scandal lol
This one is generating a lot of fun entertainment with all the schizophrenic AI videos though
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>>493012624
At least Kim Yongha would actually know his way around comiket lmao.
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>>493012762
>Maybe he just wants to do his own thing.
where's he hiding it? because so far everything he showed was a cheap ripoff which got so much hate that he had to reupload the video for a clean slate
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>>493011425
Anything can happen in this world. BA was originally a flop out of the gate. FGO was a flop out of the gate. No Man's Sky and SWTOR were flops out of the gate if you're looking for a Western examples. There've been plenty of flops out of the gate that have turned their situation around.

The question is does Dynamis One have the fortitude to survive a potentially crushing first year and when they do release their actual game finally will they be too late to the party? I think so. Sticking with the VN route might be the better idea which is less saturated than mobile game market nowadays. Maybe even go the multimedia route of doing anime, VN, manga and full fledged game releases to cross-promote like crazy.
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>>493012854
>I also am willing to argue that everything I said is complete bullshit and the dude has just lost his mind, because the recent marketing campaign with KV has been an absolute travesty.
That's the issue.

Isakusan BEFORE project KV looked like this really humble writer that made amazing stories and really cared about his game

Isakusan AFTER project KV is this writer with an oversized ego that thinks he's kojima and convinced some of his coworkers to leave BA and go work on a BA knockoff with no investors, programmers, budget or brains involved because none of them know how twitter or comiket works.
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People are really underestimating how much Yostar carries Blue Archive. Not just the translation, but the dudes wearing the Hifumi and Chinatsu shirts during streams aren't gonna be around... soulless as fuck.
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>>493012996
Regardless of the superficial similarities I'm sure he has more freedom to do what he wants with KV than he did with BA.
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Insider here, the one who manages the Twitter account is mx2j's grandma
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>>493013243
>speaking as if the coworkers have absolutely no agency whatsoever and can only helplessly follow isakusan.

If a bunch of talent left a company for nothing, then that's the company's fault. Imagine losing a chunk of your team to literal nothing.
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>>493013572
did you get your concord refund? you sound like the sort of retard that was going around about how it'd be the future of gaming
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>>493013572
>superficial
bro at least try to be believable
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>>493012581
Scam Story wasn't known for its exquisite story my anon, that is why it is irrelevant to the global audience unlike BA, its engine is only fueled by the blood of the slaves in Korea and you know it.
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>>493013572
do you get paid for these posts or do you just love dickriding randoms
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>>493012854
Does Nexon seem like the type that would put an employee up on a pedestal?
The whole "story by isakusan" sounds like some "directed by hideo kojima" type shit.
No corpo would want to credit employees if they can help it, especially someone as no name as isakusan that would not help in selling the product. It was 100% his idea to build his brand.
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>>493013572
I thought you were doing it for the lulz, but you're actually dickriding isakusan lol
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>>493014030
>"It was a team effort"
>"Story by Isakusan"
Two-faced gook sheesh
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>>493013771
What are you even talking about, faggot?
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>>493013503
Yostar is a great publisher. Probably the best in the gacha space. They hard carry whatever game they publish. The things they do for games they don't even own the IP to is insane.
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>>493011425
The way things are going, I might not care in 2027
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>>493013958
>Maple Story is irrelevant to global audience unlike BA
Low quality bait. Not even that anon. Doujin popularity isn't the only means of success as you can see with DFO that absolute mogs all online games.
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>https://x.com/rin_yuzuha
the guy who made the fake statement pussy out and deleted the post and locked his account
Should have think twice before putting your full name in a fake statement lol
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>>493014030
Most of the BA team only worked on BA and some other dead game so they got popular with blue archive, built their brand and ego then decided themselves too good and that they can do better.
Its not like they were established artists that left on creative differences, they were literal nobodies that honestly think they're the soul of the game and that everyone will follow them but the reality check must be hitting them hard.
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>>493014376
what fake statement?
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>>493014542
Fake apology statement about cancelling the game
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But really, how many of you are just upset he left BA and are unfairly taking it out on KV?
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>>493013243
I'm convinced his first and biggest mistake was revealing project KV right now. It's clearly way too early. It needs another year, maybe even two, before we should even be publically aware of it. He doesn't have the luxury of drumming up hype with his mere name alone, especially not with all the baggage that the situation has created. All the fuckups that cascaded from this have done nothing but compound and muddy a once salvageable situation.
>>493014030
>Does Nexon seem like the type
No, you're right, but neither does isakusan, a man who clearly hates the limelight judging by the way he acts in interviews and the fact that he doesn't even use his real face on Twitter. I'm giving both parties the benefit of the doubt. I respect isakusan's writing enough to give him a chance, but the moment concrete evidence of misplay comes rearing its ugly head, I'm losing my interest in this series.
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PLEASE PLAY EPIC SEVEN
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I wonder how the KV crew feel about the gook hate? I know a lot of these artists are pussies and will start crying over any criticism or maybe it's a nip thing.
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>nexon getting greedy and trying to profit from an extremely popular game is... LE BAD
>isakusan getting greedy and believing he is a protagonist, and that everyone is going to follow him against le ebil company so he can massively profit from becoming a le hero is... LE GOOD
There, I summed up the entire situation.
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>>493014950
I think BA is in good hands if Isakusan wasn't involved in the Chinese/Russian event story. The people left behind know how to write compelling characters and add drama without it suffocating the fun parts of the story.

If they can keep it up with Volume 5 Chapter 2 now that we have the established group all together I think that we're in for some quality storytelling.
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>>493014376
i knew it >>492969135
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>>493014701
why would anyone fake that? sad
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Dear Koreans, you cannot persuade or convince free thinkers who enjoy the arts and the artists to become mindless cyberpunk golems that's just how it is. Isakusan and his team are making an example of the artists overcoming the enormous pressure from the corporate overlord and its zombie slaves in the literal techno-feudal country.
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>>493014950
I'm more upset the best he can come up with for his new project is literally Red Archive.
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>>493015309
V4C2 and recent event Cherino was great. If they can salvage one of the most disliked characters then I'm very happy.
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>>493015309
i'm convinced that story is about d1 trying to revolt against nexon because nexon might mess with BA's traditional values
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>>493015472
you might meme but it genuinely feels like someone from their staff shills on 4chan with how hard people dickride him despite being a nobody who literally just worked on BA and thats it

>Ok but what if it's good and kills BA?
>Don't call it bad, they're all highly skilled individuals making amazing content
>Isakusan is an amazing writer and definitely the soul of BA! Everything will crumble without him!
etc etc
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>>493015698
It gets (You)s. Simple as.
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>>493015698
the opposite could also be true.
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>KV general
>No one's posting fanart
What the fuck is this general even for? Nips are probably gonna move on soon with their tiny attention spans and no one's posting any art.
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>>493013917
Please list the non-superficial similarities
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>>493016170
endless isakusan vs nexon debates just like other KV communities
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>>493016170
what fanart lmfao
there's only drama surrounding this shitshow and maybe five pieces of art that get reposted several times per thread while dickriding isakusan or pretending this flaming dumpster has any future at all
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Anyone else kinda disappointed that this ended up hust being Red Archive? I'm not shitting on KV but I was getting some strong K-on vibes from the early teasers and it tickled my boomer brain.
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>>493016229
So you can't arbitrarily decide what's superficial or not, I'll give you an easier one: go list the differences.
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>>493015035
>a man who clearly hates the limelight judging by the way he acts in interviews and the fact that he doesn't even use his real face on Twitter
He doesn't hate the limelight. He is just the typical nerd. How many internet ecelebs can you think of that wants attention and recognition but are too pussy to use their name and face? This entire website's history is full of people just like that.
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>>493016170
its here so hyperslop gacha generals can punch up to blue archive while they have nothing better to do.
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>>493015035
I agree that he pushed this out too soon.
Imagine an alternative history, where Isamusan leaves Nexon and a year passes. Most of us would probably never know that 20 or so devs left BA. We've all been wondering where Isakusan has been, and suddenly he announces this project out of the blue.
Bonus points to him and KV if BA ends up suffering from his loss and the loss of the team that left. All we wouos see is the old writer coming back like a hero with a new IP that would remind us of the good old days of Blue Archive.
He would have tons of support and any complaints or drama that pops up could be dismissed as envy from Nexon or fake.
However, him pushing this hard and this fast with his team is reckless. This issue with Comiket and the doujin circle being accidentally mislabeled looks like he didn't think this through like he should have. And even if the drama leaked from the Korean fourms is fake and made up by nexon shills, it's still managed to run a few names through the mud. They all have a higher barrier to entry now with mud on their faces and a lot to prove with KV.
They really should have taken a step back and let things settle before announcing this project.
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>>493016532
I'm both disappointed and shitting on it because what the fuck? They left the company, made a huge deal about leaving the company and only made a shitty low budget knockoff that rips off every single possible thing from their old game??? What is wrong with these dog eaters?
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>>493012414
No it isn't, I was born in 2002!
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>>493016170
I said this gen was for shitposting and people were telling me that that is totally not the case and is really for discussion of the upcoming "game"
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>>493016532
I was expecting an eroge but these gooks have no spine.
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>>493015698
It's obviously more baffling that the world in general is in favor of KV then supporting both BA and KV without a problem but in Korea, over 90% are bloodshot madmen foaming with their frenzy against KV waging crusade for Nexon. Clearly you see the problem.
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Which way, Samurai?
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The bestiality circlejerk of artists already announced their switching to this game. I hate to admit it but sometimes I do partake in the more extreme fetishes when it involves characters from other games so I'm glad it doesn't need to be my students anymore.
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>>493016720
They haven't shown anything about the game other than superficial things
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>>493017143
>It's obviously more baffling that the world in general is in favor of KV then supporting both BA and KV without a problem
maybe in your made up world
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>>493017159
Yellow and green sound like a genuine hassle so either of the other 2
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>>493017287
god I really hope it comes out soon so the launch makes GF2's launch look like a masterpiece
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Not Hifumi is going to the poorfag dorm going through financial hardships... hmm I wonder how much the debt will be this time lmao.
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>>493017287
>RPG
4 niggas in a row????
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>>493015035
>biggest mistake was revealing project KV right now
I tend to agree but also clearly they need all the publicity just to fund whatever weird smaller bootstrapping projects they've got going on now, trying to get momentum for a large publisher/investor to get interested; had a small team departed quietly trying to do the elevator pitch of "we've got half a dozen people that worked on parts of hit mobile game Blue Archive, give us tens of millions so we can do the same thing only more niche and budget" might not have gone down well either.
They have a big public image problem going forward because Isakusan and Mx2j sure don't look like Nexon-exploited underpaid and overworked lads escaping to do their own thing; nor does it look like they're trying to turn brand new leaf in their creative pursuits given the obvious rehashing of all the basic design concepts from BA. They are going to have a really hard time measuring up to all the comparisons.
It's also a tough spot because either BA goes to shit without them (=abandoned the existing fanbase of a game) or it doesn't (=they weren't instrumental to BA's success). It's a mess.
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>>493017287
the biggest flop of our times
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>>493017742
>or it doesn't (=they weren't instrumental to BA's success).
this is the only obvious scenario right now
isakusan thought he was a big fish, but blue archive was a teamwork's effort, not one guy's
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>>493015105
Whenever the PC client drops, gro
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectKV/s/kbskUvONaE
Please add this for the next threads thanks.
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imagine being this mad at "vaporware"
imagine being this mad at people who "dont matter"
imagine
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>>493004314
i don't want any gameplay because it takes the place of cool fight scenes
>but ch3 had cool chibi stuff and an anime cutscene
then dropped the ball on the single most important fight, terror vs terror
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>>493018013
nah but we will add this
https://arca.live/b/projectvk
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>>493015105
BA and Last Origin fulfill my KR gacha needs with Azur Lane carrying the CN side.
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>>493016780
>Just spend a year or two for nothing but pussyfooting public opinion
Sorry but that is such a no-dreamer coward way to do anything.
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>>493015105
post gameplay
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>>493017742
They definitely weren't instrumental to BA's success. The current JP event wasn't written by this gigantic retard and is one of the most highly praised events in terms of plot and redeeming one of the most disliked students so the game will be just fine.
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>>493017287
We are so. Fucking. BACK.
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>>493018442
What the fuck someone that's not me knows about Katanagatari?
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>>493018206
Its clear they don't have the ideas fleshed out or where they're going or who will sponsor them.
You also want to let the dust settle.
And yeah, they don't have a lot to work with on their current team, so being able to at least build a prototype of how the game works is important.
They wouldn't be sitting on their hands but making a game. It takes a long time to make a game or story or even a VN you know
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>>493018013
>>493018149
we should rename this to gacha drama general too like the vmg threads
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>>493012297
are you? I am not seeing any drop in quality of the character designs that hasn't been caused by those who left
>Niyaniya, Konoka, Kaguya, sKanna, sFubuki, sKirino, qCherino, qTomoe
All look great

Haven't seen major complaints from japs post v1c3 story either, we'll see how main story continues without isakusan
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>>493018698
It was pretty popular back in the day since it had released soon after Bakemonogatari anime (even if it's not related it has the same writer for the novels and the art style and animation really pumped up its popularity).
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>>493018442
does this mean guns are swords too?
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>>493018463
i'm only on ep 3, but this show is a lot better than i expected
the characters so far are really bland though
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>>493018801
Seriously, why the fuck does this garbage even need a general? We know nothing about this garbage other than it being a cheap knockoff and the entire general is just people randomly discussing whatever the fuck with one or two dickriders randomly masturbating about how isakusan is their god
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>>493017907
>but blue archive was a teamwork's effort, not one guy's
And those teammates followed Isakusan then working in KV right now.
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>BA but for yuritroons
dead on arrival dykeshit game lmao
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>>493019139
it makes /bag/ more usable
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>>493019269
Quite literally yes

https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/240628b_en/2

>Occasionally, however, art director In Kim will suggest that a particular scene needs more art added. Especially in Volume Final, the art director added a lot of things after reading the text. He always helps me out so much, and I’m incredibly grateful. (In Kim = Hwansang)
>For example, the characters in Problem Solver 68 were first designed by DoReMi, and afterward I decided on the character details. That’s how I often work with DoReMi.
>Sometimes characters are created based on the need for allies or enemies in the plot. That’s how I create characters with Mx2J. Black Suit was created when I made a request based on the needs of the plot. The same goes for Neru and Tsurugi.

Not saying it's just that trio that makes most things, but they are certainly a powerhouse together, and guess who left
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>>493019139
it has a general because people keep posting
stop posting and maybe it'll hit page 10 and die
dumbfuck
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i dont care if some big name left the BA team, im only playing BA and never playing another gacha game even after it shutsdown.
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>>493019602
the fuck are you talking about
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>>493017287
inb4 not available in the Netherlands just like BA
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word around the dorm is shishou's got a fat cock
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>>493019269
Oof
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>>493017287
its gonna have men in it and bait ntr situations
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>>493019139
containment for the delusional cunts that think BA is suddenly dead and one retard leaving will kill the game
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>>493012854
>because the recent marketing campaign with KV has been an absolute travesty
How bad could it have been? I found out about the games existence about 30 minutes ago.
>>493018407
>redeeming one of the most disliked students
What? Who?
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>>493019139
Just ignore it if you don't like it
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>>493020704
it's an anti-cherino schizo
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>>493020704
>How bad could it have been?
Considering it has only been about a day since the teaser dropped? pretty bad.
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>136k followers
>58 of them people i'm following
seems fine to me
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>>493020865
>Cherino
Oh. Yeah she's pretty fucking bad. I should read that event the because that's a tall task.
>>493020908
I don't know. I haven't seen much of a fuss about it. I didn't see anything negative until I came here looking for information about it. From an outside perspective it doesn't seem like rooted negativity.
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>>493021230
Just read the youtube comments
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>"sovl project"
>"sovlless knockoff"
Project KV being lewd already makes it a better game than BA, simple as
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>>493021423
I see...
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>official account reposted the fanart with the bush on display
Is their VN going to be 18+
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Was Isakusan the only writer to leave? Seems like he just wanted to be the sole writer for BA and stormed out when told no
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>>493021423
Some schizos crying in the Youtube comments doesn't actually mean much.
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>seiaposter
we stoop so low
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>>493021802
Not sure where people are getting the idea that he's this spiteful, selfish guy. Has there been any evidence of this at all? I think it's more so that he told the story he wanted to tell with the Abydos characters and wanted to move on to new prospects where they're not limited by Nexon rules. Maybe DoReMi and company felt the same way.
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>>493019657
https://youtube.com/watch?v=styZyZX_u3o&pp=ygU067iU66OoIOyVhOy5tOydtOu4jCDtjIzrsJjripAg6rCc67Cc7J6QIOy9lOupmO2EsOumrA%3D%3D#
When you see the developer's commentary videos it becomes even more obvious. Isakusan is visibly happy to work with Hwansang and expresses it openly, and then Doremi and Mx2j get along with him quite well too. It's like Nasu-Takeuchi and Koyama(s) combo lol
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>Literally begged Isakusan to take their name off the PV so if C105 goes bad they can crawl back to BA
Fucking snakes I swear
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>>493021784
They went all in on having fanart be the advertisement for their game.
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>>493021705
i want to play Blue Archive, not Nikke. i want cute girls, not sluts.
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>nobody drawing Rei
Good
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>>493021803
>some
Sure thing buddy
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>>493022110
Blue Archive girls are sluts bro
Sensei's dick just doesn't work otherwise Kisaki and Miyako would both be pregnant
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>>493022091
Source?
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>>493022109
I mean it makes sense that they want to embrace it as free promotion but not being selective about what fanart you choose to support can backfire when you eventually have to tone down the fanservice if you go the mobile gaming route (which most due since these kind of stories with large female rosters thrive in that environment) and end up rug-pulling the people who thought they would go 18+.
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>>493022305
your fanmade doujins arent canon, bro.
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>>493022390
???
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>>493022384
Sleazy headcanon
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>>493022175
>shota-looking
let's be honest, the mech did the heavy lifting for base Toki in all aspects
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>>493022639
oh nyoooo...
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>>493022059
One thing that makes KV interesting is the fact that Hwansang, isakusan, DoReMi (and potentially Mx2J) risked nearly all of their corporate reputation for this in pursuit of their vision of a game. There are literally 7 people working in DynamisOne right now (source: public government pension fund reports), each most likely decided to follow their vision, not the lots of corporate money of selling out their dreams for the corporate overlords.
In fact, their studio motto "To reach OTAKU idea" might be a quite explicit reference to isakusan's interview where he says:
>When I call myself a foreigner to otaku culture, I don’t mean it in a negative way. I’m a foreigner in that I wish to take part in the large global trend and spread this culture as an outsider to Japan, the former mainstream for otaku culture–as someone outside of the realm where meta acknowledgment is possible.
So, in a way, he might be trying to not fuck people over corporate-style 'pull a nasu' with infinite sequels and franchise development but make... decisive stories, if that word fits.
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>>493022802
is hwansang even involved?
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>>493022802
>but make... decisive stories
I would love if this studio was focused on making games/VNs with definitive beginning and ends, but I find it hard to believe they'd ever do that.
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>>493022901
https://twitter.com/hwansang12
look at his feed (it has every single D1 post reposted)
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>>493022802
then he needs to learn writing in japanese and english
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>>493022958
is he?
>>493023021
yeah but that could just be supporting his buds while he's doing his own thing
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>>493023067
I'm gonna be honest, if that's your only concern then I really doubt they'll have a significant problem down the line
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>>493022387
Not only that. But I think lewd fanart is best tacitly approved rather than openly embraced. It's good to acknowledge and appreciate that side of the community, but you don't want it to become part of your product's identity unless that's the kind of game you are actually making.
Like it or not, actually lewd games are taken less seriously and are always niche.
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>>493023067
>and english
lol
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>>493022802
niggers will call d1 a bunch of greedy fucks when they left a cashcow just so they can make hentai again
they're the opposite of sellouts
>>493016923
yeah because reposting the same shit 10 times in a row with different images is the /bag/ seal of guaranteed thread quality
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>>493023192
Actually... I don't know. The amount of reposts (and the remaining amount of D1's undisclosed/unannounced members) makes me want to think he joined them, but aside from some dubious news sources and Reddit comments, there is no official news of that. Still, I'd imagine that he is involved in some way, even if not as an on-roll employee of D1, the timespan he left in fits at least.
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>>493023317
cuckshit
you can openly encourage hentai and still present the main product as wholesome
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>>493023484
>b-b-but /bag/!
lol
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>>493023317
I feel like Nikke might be one of the few exceptions where embracing the lewd didn't detract from it becoming popular. That said, I wouldn't mind if they go the Senran Kagura route with their new title though if it's true that it's being listed as an RPG then maybe they'll do a tactics game like FEH or something similar.
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I don't care if it's d1 or nexon, as soon as they make rng gear stats it's straight in the trash for me
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>>493023703
Problem is that they're already promoting official lewd art themselves so they can't really be 100% wholesome about it.
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>>493024021
Already been deconfirmed
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>>493023771
you fucker asked why we don't join back /bag/
it's a shithole that's why
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>>493024021
I'm not trusting koreans again
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>>493022802
Totally agree with you anon. Meanwhile the popular opinion in Korea is literally anti-human hellscape tier lmao. I often think BA coming out of Korea was a sheer miracle that was forged with a pure otaku dream.
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>>493009981
Joseph Conrad learned English in his twenties if that counts
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>>493024130
okay thank god, I don't want chibis and if they do turn based I want them to do ATB.
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>>493024159
judging by the timezone, that anon is clearly american though?
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>>493023776
Yeah but that's because that was what Nikke was actually going for.
Also, while popular, no one takes Nikke seriously the way they do BA. Nikke is viewed by everyone, even it's players, as a coomer gacha.
If that's the game KV is gonna end up being, sure. But seeing how hard they are retreading BA, I doubt that is the case.
>>493023703
Yeah sure thing bud. Let's see where this goes.
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>>493024021
Sucks this is fake because it sounds better than what we are getting.
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>>493024348
what are we getting
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>>493024021
>female furry units
Please for fucks sake it's all I want. This kemomimi shit is fine but is getting boring as fuck. Give me a few level 3 furries. Even zzz is taking its sweet time.
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>>493024150
Is that what you got from what I said?
God no, by all means stay here!
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>>493024338
horny mixed with a heavy dose of zany is a tried and tested mix, BA's initial mix too
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>>493024478
depends on how furry it gets for me
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>>493024179
You know, I can understand where these people come from easily, since these people are a powerhouse and have been an integral part of BA development for all of it's existence, one can't help but wonder what would happen without them in place, but in this case it's just the path of least resistance... of "go work on this game even if you see the spirit behind it dying right in front of your eyes due to corporate greed" and not "go and start anew without this corporate bullshit and make something you and your children can be proud of" (you are here). It's just human complacency. I'm not saying that this is exactly how BA will fall, but the signs (that yearly report mentioning 'opening BA as a franchise' as a potential revenue source) should sound a huge alarm in heads of everyone who is even remotely concerned with the state of the game.
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>>493024348
pure human students are boring
I'd say their lawyer told them they can't copy BA even more and not get sued, but they don't seem to be advised by anyone
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>>493004203
>Been a few days and hype is already dying
>BA communities are ignoring mentions of KV while shitposters come increasingly desperate to get people to continue discussing this shitty ripoff we know nothing about

Man isakusan fucked up so hard that it's almost hard to believe this retard ever worked for BA once upon a time. Give it a week and nobody will remember this ever existed I guess.
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>>493024438
loli yuri sex. Nobody wants that.
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>>493024912
>yuri
if they want a surefire route to failure, sure.
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>>493024837
>since these people are a powerhouse
since the quartet is a powerhouse*
sorry
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>>493024912
i want that https://vndb.org/v1439
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>don't secure investments
>put all eggs in one basket
>jump into a market/industrial position you know nothing about and refuse to learn
Isakusan really is kind of retarded, for such an "Otaku" not understanding how the place you plan to show off your project works is pretty incompetent
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>>493024905
WuWon
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>>493024901
Yeah. I wanted that leak to be real. Devils and Angels school shenanigans sounds really fun. Shame we are getting BA 1.5 instead.
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>>493024901
bestiality needs to stay in BA
I'm sick of canon references of previous generations' students fucking the animals
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so this is just blue archive but for yuritards?
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>>493025398
how did the leak get deconfirmed
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>>493025453
What?
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>>493024609
This kind. I think it's cute and would make the roster more varied.
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jesus christ
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>>493025583
ehhhh
I can understand where you're coming from, but I don't really enjoy going past a 3 on the furry scale.
would be sick if they did it in a cute way though
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>>493025528
It's actually just all harry potter houses
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>>493025350
I know you're a shitstirrer, but was it even his choice/order to publish it as being involved with the company? It could've easily been someone else, like CEO Byeong-lim Park
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>>493025683
>>493025583
>>493024609
>>493024478
Your kind is not welcome here.
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>>493025717
does that not count as "factions"
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>>493024912
>>493024986
>>493025025
Not happening.
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>>493025528
Read it.
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>>493025884
good
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i'm happy to announce that i can finally reconfirm "that"
yes that "that"
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>>493025884
isaku"wrote most of the yuribait in the story"san isn't gonna include yuri in kv?
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>>493025959
is it that interactions change depending on gender
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>>493026072
I'm glad isakusan secured the rights to Hoshino and Hina and they will be appearing in his new hit game.
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>>493017287
>knife
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>kvfags prefer sluts who got a train ran over.
you were never part of the BA community
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>>493026351
*/bag/
i was never part of /bag/, and that's a good thing.
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>>493026351
back to /bag/ buddy
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>>493026421
>>493026497
it's funny how you people say this completely unaware that /bag/ will annex this general if the game comes out good
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>>493026665
if it gets a global release i will stop posting here
hopefully it stays japan only
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>>493026862
I'll make a TL mod like Rayshift for FGO
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How can a pv of a few seconds get a general?
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>>493027046
Well unfinished games (early access) have gotten millions of threads before. What's the issue with a soon-to-be-launched title having a thread?
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>>493019635
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>>493023067
Probably why they are trying to get noticed by JP companies at c105
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>>493027046
You forgot the pantyshot art and >>493027284 with her clothes being cut up.
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>red archive general is faster than my general
nyoo...
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>>493027202
But this isn't even unfinished, it was just a teaser with almost nothing on it.
We don't even know what type of game is
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>>493027467
Actually we do. They advertise it as a VN that they'll be selling at comiket (most likely they intend to turn it into a multi-media project if it takes off at comiket this year).
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>>493027001
I'd appreciate that
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Here she is just Taiga
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>>493027467
>>493027671
We know Project KV is a mobile game.
The VN is not "Project KV" but it is related and they plan to have it ready for December, though who knows if they'll change the schedule when they fail to make Comiket.
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>>493027395
This is official art...starting hard I see.

I wonder who the MC will be...instead of "sensei" will be "sisho"?
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>>493027964
yes, instead of sensei we are shishou
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>>493027046
though the power of shitposting.
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>>493027046
Blue archive is massively massively big and there's a fuckton of schizos that want to see it die so this general is basically gacha drama/shitposting general with a few isakusan dickriders masturbating over how he's the god of gacha that will dethrone hoyoverse and BA with project KV

tl;dr intense schizo shitposting thats how
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>>493027964
we're "shi"
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>>493028058
The only shitposting is coming from /bag/gots
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>>493028058
>want to see it die
Nexon is collaborating hard on that front by releasing only terrible alts one after another.
It has gone down all the charts for a while now and not even the anime seems to gave it a second wind.
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>>493028058
>tl;dr intense schizo shitposting thats how
Primarily from (You) and people like (You).
I like BA but thought isakusan's recent work was kinda mid. Recent events have been good though and we have good new character designs from new artists, so I'm not worried on that front either. I will continue to play and enjoy BA regardless of whatever happens with KV, but I hope KV is good so I have two cakes instead of one. That's why I'm here.
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>>493028348
come on, you know 100% of the populance here is /bag/ there is no way some random dude that does not know BA comes here interested in kv alone
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>>493028580
People can play BA without posting in /bag/ bro. A lot of people play several gacha and I assume I'm not the only person who doesn't post in the general for every single one of them.
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>>493027671
Actually they're walking that back, really the vn has nothing to do with our company because if it did we couldn't be able to distribute it at c105
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Aruji-dono!
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>>493028580
I've never played Blue Archive
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>>493028403
>not even the anime seems to gave it a second wind
The anime is trash though. It'd be like expecting the Girls Frontline anime to have revitalized it.
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A lot of you are new to how the first threads of a new general is like and it shows.
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Hell someone who doesn't play BA could be interested it just because they like swordgirls and the aesthetic, which is very different from Kivotos (outside of the halos).
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>Kivotos
>KVT
DAMN
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>>493029023
Thia is a nice wallpaper
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>>493029023
The halos are so thin that I didn't even notice them at first.
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>>493029023
It kind of remembers me that anime about a baseball team
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>>493029023
really should have used orange skies to maximize the red archive aesthetic
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>>493029023
anyone interested in this was also interested in BA. its literally BA but with swords instead of guns, its the same shit.
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>>493028813
>Izuna jumped the universe to meet her true sensei again
That's my gal
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>>493027691
and that's a good thing!
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>>493029515
Bro can not read.
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>>493029345
I read some JPs like "they half assed the halos by making them all generic they must not have much budget" but if anything it feels like that helps make them legally distinct. It'd make KV look way worse if they were all unique and Koito had a big intimidating Hina style halo.
>>493029515
You brought up the same reason it's different (swords vs guns) that I did and then said actually it's not different. Please get better at posting.
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>>493024348
It sounds like shit, if it was confirmed I'd give up on the game
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>there is a girl named coitus
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>>493028058
This. And I suspect some felt they missed the boat on BA and is now riding hard on KV as their new entry point.
You see this with plenty of works. They get in on the new hotness and feel the need to shit on the previous stuff they didn't play. MHW, Elden Ring, AC6, etc.
Isakusan dickriding is crazy. No one even mentioned this guy before all this.
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>>493030053
sex
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>>493029023
>the aesthetic, which is very different from Kivotos
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>>493030171
>Isakusan dickriding is crazy. No one even mentioned this guy before all this.
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Keep saying it
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>>493029023
>that motorbike's sign has a number of 32767
>32767 is the maximum number a signed (numeric sign, plus or minus) 16bit integer can take
I'm.... noooticing???
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I've only seen people shitting on Isakusan in these threads, not sucking his dick.
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>>493029345
PV says the halo is a symbol of ignorance and potential. It might be something that changes on ascension
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Keep riding it
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>Cygames or Scamco pick them up
cutting edge nip 3D graphics
>any other JP company
Pure 2d pngs or ugly chibis
>Korean company
Live2D or pixels
>china
censored and soulless
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>>493030850
There was one guy in the first thread who tried to argue Vol1Ch3 was perfect. Funny how I apparently went from telling him he had a mental disability to being an isakusan dickrider.
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>>493031014
>It might be something that changes on ascension
Or after having sex if it really is an eroge
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>>493031014
It sounded more like they go away, not change.
Maybe it's pure shonenshit and they're power limiters.
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>>493031232
do you think cygames would pick this up
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>493031232
>Cygames
Be less obvious
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>>493031476
Cygames biggest weakness is shit writers that are out of touch with their fanbase and also poor story planning.
I could see it but this game would directly compete with Pricon.
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>>493031640
pricon is owablu anyway, cygames desperately needs new games
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Are they even looking for a publisher?
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BlackStone seemed interested in japanese-style media lately, maybe they'll pick them up
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>>493032204
don't even joke like that
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Tencent will pick it up
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>>493024986
>cute girls making out
>surefire route to failure
i don't get it
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>>493027046
Ask again in the bowsette general.
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>>493022802
"Centrist are the spectators of History" This has been my take for quite a while and you are absolutely right in that those guys truly have something they want to show to the world (or at least the ones who like the genre) and giving up what most would consider the easy way out of life and starting anew for what they truly want to build is something that I truly appreciate.
Consumers will comment, consumers will talk shit, but at the end of the day they are simple just consumers, I enjoy BA and will keep playing until it reach EoS status, but I also want to dive in, in the creative dream and vision that those creators are willing to dish out. Let's hope the tribalism calms down once we see actual gameplay.
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>>493025784
I do not need your approval. I will be here and I will keep asking for furry girls in surveys.
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>>493029023
Anyone has this pic without the text for phone wallpaper
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https://x.com/DynamisOne/status/1830531661584622022
Yurigame
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>>493035395
Do you faggots not have something for your demographic?? I wouldn't know but maybe there isn't much if you go to clearly non furry things and cry for that shit there
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>>493035702
Dont give it (you)s those freaks survive on attention, they dont have the same mental fortitude as schizos to keep posting, just ignore it
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>>493030053
Coitus with Koito after school/work!
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>>493035702
How about you fuck off? Our game needs every variety het, yaoi, yuri, futa, furry, ect. if we want to be number 1 and show the world Isakusan envisions
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>>493028058
>Blue archive is massively massively big and there's a fuckton of schizos that want to see it die
Nah i just hate BA because they turned the game from haremge into a c/u/ckshit game pic related and the last HoshinoxHina shit in the last volume
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>>493035339
Based anon
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>>493036718
/bag/ was way too anti-yuri, it's good to see this place is shipping up to be so much better. Girl love is pure love
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>>493036718
>yuribait is the same as yuripandering
lmao we both know at the end of the day all 4 of them are for (you).
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>antiyuri tranny is already here
had hoped this freak would stick to his /bag/ containment zone
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>>493037286
>Is okay if a girl takes 100 dicks bro, look now she is for (you)
KYS
>>493037575
Look in the mirror yuritanny, YWNBW
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>>493037750
none of the girls in BA are futa
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jesus fucking christ unrelased game generals were a mistake, what a miserable pile of shitflinging and falseflagging
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>>493037750
KV girls are built for each other, sorry this angers your small virgin penis
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>>493037980
yeah and all these things could've happened in /bag/ instead
what a mistake
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>>493037750
>Is okay if a girl takes 100 dicks bro
It's cunny on cunny anon, the tribadism intensifies the cunny flavor
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>>493037991
and BA girls for each other too >>493036718
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>>493038164
Yes, sadly /bag/gots are blind to true love and pushed us all out
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Go back to your shithole c/u/ck
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>>493038149
they have and most likely will keep happening
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>>493036718
>Official art
Not even /gig/ have this amount of yuribait in official art or in-game KEK
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>>493004203
https://youtu.be/G5jAW37Pq1k?si=GGFmzH5t_lhPqPvq
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>>493036718
>"nah"
>immediately proves anon correct
galgetards not sending their best soldiers
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actually, can anyone explain the anti-yuri schizos to me?
i haven't played eroge or watched anime since like 2012
but back then yuri and yuribait was embraced (threesomes wooh)
when did this change and why?
should i blame americans as usual? koreans too?
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>>493038767
2016 happened so yes blame Americans.
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>>493038767
it changed from threesomes wooh to youre not included in it
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>>493038767
Gacha generals around 2014-2015 are the reason
The clashing between yurifags and self-inserters intensified because of selectable MC genders
Now gachas are mainstream so the war between them naturally got bigger
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>>493038767
We go from hot threesomes with the MC to "I am cute girl with penis so kill all cis people, my ship is canon uwu", so yeah trannies ruined yuri
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is there a single gacha general on /vg/ where yuri fandom is dominant?
love live general probably?
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>>493039481
hig most likely, they actually have girls kissing officially
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>>493039481
/kvg/ soon
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>>493039649
>they actually have girls kissing officially
go ask gbfg what they think about yuri
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>>493036718
You did this shit on /bag/ already.
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>>493039715
the only thing i know about granblue is that they have shortstacks
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>>493039481
Reverse 1999
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>>493039649
And the sales bombed like no tomorrow.
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>Yuri schizo trying to claim this thread again
Out.
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>>493039835
Reverse 1999 is still 1999
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>>493039843
funny how that works
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>>493039481
Any mihoyo thread is full of faggots
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>>493039974
It's 9991 dumbass
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>>493031476
Only he could take the mantle
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>>493036718
The biggest problem with Blue Archive is that the protagonist is faggot and have "ambiguous gender" stereotype with it, even when everyone knows he is a male, literal the only thing they need to do is make him a canon male and put implied sex scenes with the students at the end of the momotalks and that would kill schizos and yuritards
>B-But the general audience
The general audience already thinks BA is "pedo game" so what they have to lose? the game is already +18 and there are other games with implied sex like Nikke and Eversoul
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>search some KV art
>is a dude called sensei fucking the girls
The game is not out yet and you have kekshit already.
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>>493039974
Fuck off.
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/kvg/ - /bag/ Derangement Syndrom General
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>nooooooooo don't enjoy the things in the way i don't enjoy
yeah this is the gist that says pretty much every thing
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>>493040490
>ambiguous gender" stereotype
Do people really think kv won't do this? It's in every single gacha game
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>>493040907
It's sad these creatures don't realize their devs hate them.
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>>493038767
just lurk in any gacha generals launch with selectable MC gender
youll become an anti yuri schizo
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I just want a loli Last Origin with good production quality.
Is that too much to ask?
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>>493041202
>It's in every single gacha game
Nikke
>Canon male
Azur lane
>Canon male
Eversoul
>Canon male
Snowbreak
>Canon male
PGR
>Canon male

Retard
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>>493041202
Reverse 1999 got a fixed gender single protag.
A girl.
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>>493041678
And they fucked it up by including men and shipshit instead of making it a harem.
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>>493041678
Damn no wonder I never hear about it.
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>>493041571
*every single relevant gacha game
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isakusan's previous work which he still loves fhe most had a female protag
just fyi
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>>493041571
No wonder he didn't know, nobody plays those
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>>493041959
>>493042114
Two of those are some of the most popular gacha around. The others are growing.
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>>493042321
azur lane fell off half a decade ago and nikke is aislop
the others are nothing
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>>493042321
So which one are you from that's got you so defensive?
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>>493042516
>>493042591
Actually I've never played even one of those games, sorry anons.
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>>493042516
Fuck you, Nikke is the height of gacha showing that they aren't afraid to actually show the goods. Hope KV follows suit and we get full on raunchy sex scenes
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>>493036718
To be fair, almost all (if not all) of BA's yuri subtexts come from stories written by Isakusan
ex: shigure at the beginning (written by isakusan) she had yuri subtext with Nodoka, later shigure Onsen written by another writer the yuri subtext is no more
Meru introduced as a npc as a mangaka fujo yuri by isakusan, later in her main event written by another writer the Fujo yuri personality is completely removed
also in the stories written by isakusan, Sensei seems to have a more friendly-professional relationship with the girls unlike the other writers where they write sensei with a more friendly-very close relationship with them
>>493040490
>ambiguous gender" stereotype
the fact that sensei is gender neutral also comes from Isakusan he is the one who pushes that in the interviews, you really feel that the other writers for example the one from Vol4 writes sensei with a man in mind, while in interviews isakusan was always there saying that sensei could be anything, and he always writes sensei so that the 2 genders could be possible
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>>493035702
What's faggoty about liking furry girls? I'm not asking for trapshit.
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>>493040490
That was isakusan's idea you know?
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The one good thing to come out of Abydos Ch3.
The second will be AyaSeri when the idol event drops.
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>>493038767
Sorry, "sister", but your kind is no longer welcome in this world.
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>>493042845
>Nikke is the height of gacha showing that they aren't afraid to actually show the goods
Lol no they've been self-censoring for months now, there is pretty much no jiggle nor revealing outfits anymore and the commander also stopped fucking the nikkes in the bond stories
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Leave Isakeksan to me.
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>>493038767
yes blame americans as usual
yuritards are viewed the way they are because they literally cannot behave and are incredibly volatile and reactionary and hypocritical. they call themselves "sapphics" now and their entire ideology and drive is built on hating men more than they actually love women, not to mention they cannot describe why they like these characters without touching the words "girlboss" or "cunt" or "mother"
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>>493042964
Can't help but get the feeling that isakusan was also behind the protag being a "Sensei" instead of a student. Being an adult with a responsibility allows for all sorts of faggot flavored excuses to avoid dating the students after all, while being a fellow student removes nearly all those excuses and allow an easier time dating the girls.
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>the shitshow today
Yeah, they rushed this out way too damn fast if they're making this sort of administrative mistakes this early. Also had they waited till like early 2025, they would haven't drawn any near the amount vitriol or plain confusion they've gotten.
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>Implodes on it's second day of existence
I can't imagine many publishers view this favorably
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I hope this gets picked up by bamco
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>>493044572
its funny, because BA found its footing among fans in being unafraid to step foot near the teacher-student relationship fetish. The community is built on that.
I want to see what the hell he has in mind for this considering we're still "Sensei" (Shishou). If he goes with yuri then I feel the game will have a much harder time succeeding if we even make it that far.
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I hope this never gets a Global version and I don't even speak an ounce of nihongo
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>>493044329
>wants to spend his life for everyone
>takes out a random gacha writer instead of, well, y'know
japan is so cucked
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Why don't they just release it in korea in korean instead of going through the trouble to (poorly) translate it to japanese and release it in japan?
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>>493045092
>BA found its footing among fans in being unafraid to step foot near the teacher-student relationship fetish
Unfortunately, it also brought cucks like >>493004532 into the game, lmao.
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>>493045524
for one thing japan doesn't have /pol/-tier feminazis
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>>493045524
Because they want to make the kind of game Japan enjoys, not one that Korea enjoys.
If I was going to make an hrpg I wouldn't want to make a /weg/ I'd want to sell it on DLsite to Japanese people.
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>>493045654
would be really funny if isakusan left nexon because they wouldn't let him put an oath system in the game
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>>493038767
Yuri went from something that pandered to straight males to a way to push LGBT shit into otaku culture.

And in waifu gachas specifically few people are willing to spend money rolling for girls only for the company to ship them with other girls instead of them being for you, which is why most yurifags you see are secondaries who haven't spent a cent in the game.
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>>493045113
Guess what? They don't either.
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>>493040490
I love when westerners take their worthless western-centric perspective and try to apply it to this game. You have no idea how big BA is in nipland and all the different kinds of people that play the game.
People love wholesome Sensei and they can get anything else through fanart. This is how every successful game operates.
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With how racist Japan is the fact the BA became popular there was in spite of it's origin. He's really hoping for lightning to strike twice and most japs to not just pass up their vn
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>Why can't I fuck my student?
Because this is a story and you aren't in it. Unless you want to try digitizing yourself, then go ahead. Otherwise you sound schizophrenic saying this. No game can let you fuck your student, schizo.
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>>493045092
>If he goes with yuri then I feel the game will have a much harder time succeeding
I don't think I've ever seen a waifu gacha were the protag isn't a self-insert/love interest for all the heroines anyway
I don't see any point in playing a game where you're just a spectator of characters bonding together
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>>493046730
Genshin? FGO?
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>>493046730
You're technically the captain in HI3 and girls talk to you in the lobby even though you are completely irrelevant to the story outside of shitty filler events in bubble worlds
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>>493046929
NTA but
>waifu gacha
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>>493046248
Talk about preparing to fight the boss but getting stopped by the midboss.
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>>493046929
>waifu gacha
>playable males
Even then you're not just a spectator though since there are still some girls [and guys] for (You)
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Much of the problem with BA recently is Nexon clearly trying to whore out the brand as promotion instead of bringing something back for BA.
The Mahjong collab and Warship collab can have students appear there to promote their brand and possibly to draw in BA players but BA the game itself got nothing from them, no skin, no alt, no new characters.
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>>493046929
Dude...
>>493046941
Unfortunate that the captain of the game isn't relevant at all. What's even the point of having one?
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>>493040490
>Unironically thinking its the pedo game
Outed yourself as a tourist
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>>493047183
What would you want them to add from WoW? A new WakamoxBoat raid?
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>>493047147
>Genshin
nice cuck game, cameraman
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>>493047183
I don't want anything from those games since I don't give a shit about them. The Railgun collab was a good choice and I wouldn't mind Negima as a future collab, but I don't want a fucking battleship collab taking up an event slot.
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>>493047183
Mahjong collab was Yostar's doing. Also it was infinitely more soulful than whatever Nexon did with their ship game, western Taiwan seethe notwitstanding.
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Unironically, WoWs might be in a worse state then BA
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>>493047371
students in naval outfit
Abysdos students alts wearing a captain hat, a sailor uniform. Hell, even a story even about Abysdos learning to operate a random battleship they savage would have been fun.
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>>493047424
>cuck game
Not even close. Nta but /gig/ really hates their MC huh.
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>>493047705
I would be okay with a naval-based event too. I guess they didn't want to overdo the Abydoswank that was going on at the time though.
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>>493047705
yeah costumes are a huge missed opportunity for BA
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>>493004203
>Will only release near the end of 2026 at the earliest

I feel like if this even releases it will be dead on arrival if it's not an eroge.
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>>493047893
The costumes are the alts of the game though.
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Nexon unironically could have bankrolled ProjectKV
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>>493047705
>>493047893
>>493047853
Hell, considering the anime was adding in unique, albeit shitty L2D with bluray boxes. Even an L2D of students standing on the ship starboard would have been an okay addition. Instead, we got nothing from that.
Same with Mahjong where the only thing it did was killing the CN fanbase.
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>>493048114
>the only thing it did was killing the CN fanbase
Not much of a loss desu.
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>>493048114
>killing the CN fanbase
But that's a positive?
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>>493048108
huh
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>>493048159
Can't wait to go on dates with her, bros...
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>>493048114
CN is a non-factor if your gacha game isn't originally from there.
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>>493038767
ameritards obsessed with trannies forcing their mental illness into anime
lesbian (and by extension yuri) have been the most common male heterosexual fetish since the beginnings of times
the whole anti-yuri mental illness is forced by a vocal minority of self hating trannies or turbo autists (obsessed with said trannies)
normal guys enjoys it as usual because it is still moe/cgdct content
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>>493048858
>Calling a Heterosexual a tranny
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>Flip phones
So KV is going to take place in an era resembling the early 2000's?
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>>493048692
CN made up 80% of Granblue's action RPG spinoff's playerbase...
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>>493049292
or 1990s
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>>493048858
(mostly) SEAniggers, not ameritards, but otherwise you're correct
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>>493049292
>>493049387
oh I thought it was gonna be way way earlier.
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>>493049807
I'm a ñegro subhuman and I like my ocassional sfw yuri pics thoughever? I just stroke the goose when it's age gap yuri
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>>493049292
You do realize that flip phones exist today?
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>>493038767
besides a couple of schizos who probably got friendzoned by a lesbian or something no one really hates yuri
what people hate are yurifags
modern day yurifags are somehow even worse than furries/bronies used to be during their peak
it also doesnt help that most of them are legitimate trannies
now you might read this post and go "oh boy yet another tranny obsessed schizo" but no like i get it dude i find people who obsess over trannies just as annoying as you do but majority of these people are literal unironic trannies
if they get so much as a foothold into your "fandom" you might as well call it quits because they will ruin it beyond recognition
just compare 2020 genshin threads with 2024 genshin threads
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yurifags are just trannies trying to self insert.
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>>493050401
Yurifags hate themselves too much to self insert, they don't want to "poison the garden"
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>>493049858
I was hoping this was like taisho era or something
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>>493047239
I never say BA was a pedo game retarded nigger, thats what normalfags think
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>>493050227
it's a pointless distinction to make when a lot of BA fans will foam at the mouth at the sight of yuri alone
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>>493050640
We have a gameboy which presumably the notArona's live in.
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>>493050835
hm, that kinda sucks.
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>>493046341
So true sis now we should remove that ugly sensei self insert from the game and make it a wholesome yurigame UwU
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>>493050789
A lot of *baggots* will.
If you watch streams of the story/events or look at 2chan people will joke about how Ayane having a key to Serika's room means they're a couple or whatever and nobody cares, while in /bag/ it'd result in a thread long meltdown.
If you mean blatant in your face canon yuri then we have none of that in BA so it's hard to make any claim about either way.
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>>493051110
*Japanese streams to be clear
I would never watch a gaijin or use them as evidence of anything because who gives a single fuck about them
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>>493051110
>If you mean blatant in your face canon yuri then we have none of that in BA so it's hard to make any claim about either way. >>493036718

>>493046665
faggot
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>Project: announced
>Project one day later:
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>>493051402
>nodoka no way fags shigure
that is the opposite of canon yuri lil sis
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>>493051793
nodoka is a good girl who knows cock is best
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imagine being so pathetically insecure that you perceive schoolgirl yuri between fictional characters as you getting cucked
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>all this arguing about yuri
And this place was supposed to be different from /bag/ how?
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/kvg/ is this true?
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>>493051993
how do you expect /bag/ 2 to be different than /bag/?
>>493052024
no it isn't, you were already told in the other thread
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>>493051793
Thank God my Nodocute is 100% straight and for (me), shitgure is whore and can burn in hell btw
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>>493052024
no
people are mad about the ba connection and think apologizing for comiket is missing the point
some people care about the comiket stuff but it's way less relevant to most people
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>>493052181
shigupiss can be fixed
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>>493052024
>d1 fucking up their comiket entry
Yes
>japan's reaction
idk
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>>493051402
>What is friendship?
That post and pic has already been shitposted in /bag/ a lot.
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>>493051993
Turns out gachafags are the same regardless of how big, fast, slow, etc. the general is.
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>>493052024
First half is factually correct
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Imagine being so pathetically insecure that you perceive schoolgirl friendship interactions between fictional characters as yuri
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>>493051993
Why are you still here?
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>>493051993
this thread is 90% /bag/ shitstirrers
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>>493052851
*this thread is 90% shitstirrers
FTFY
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>>493050640
>Taisho era
Shishou better look like a bootleg Raidou Kuzunoha.
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Since someone was shitting on Shigure, what kind of girls do Kissless Virgins like?
I hope KV has a Koharu expie. It'll definitely have a Chise. Not sure if it'll have a Kokona, and I'm concerned there's no chance it'll have a Himari.
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At least artists will keep Project KV alive until C105
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>>493053392
Fed
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>>493053260
its not but I really wish it was. lack of technology would really help this.
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>>493051402
>>493051962
>>493052181
Good job proving the thread's point about how unhinged anti-yuri schizos are btw
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>Swords as main theme
>Are you my master? phrase
>Pikachu-man is a old Typemoon fan
I decipher the code anons this is gonna be pure KINO
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>>493053792
I think girls kissing is hot, but only when my dick is involved
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>>493053392
I hope KV will have a blatant not!Nagusa.
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If you really want KV to succeed you would mail $1000 right to Pikachu's mailbox to fund the development
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>>493053960
I want Kohane to be a shonen protagonist powering up and beating broken students like Koito against all odds. If Shishou can fight too that's fine but don't reduce every story fight to RPG battles won by Shishou micromanaging the girls.
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>>493054406
I want this too.
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>>493054341
Gomen I need that money to buy ten swimsuit Miyako figures.
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what exactly makes Isakusan a good writer and why was he the secret sauce to blue archives success?
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>>493053792
Lmao seethe.
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>>493053392
NTA but I hate Shigure too, I just hope the game has a Wakamo or Rumi expy
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>>493055371
He gave us Hinawank, Mikawank, and Hoshinowank. As well as HinaxHoshino and MikaxKoharu so he's basically God's gift to earth
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>>493054406
>If Shishou can fight too that's fine
Shishou winning a few important fights by himself would put him a few skyscrapers above S*nsei. I mean, he would actually fight to protect his disciples, instead of declaring protection for the girls and then hiding behind them like a little bitch when violence flares up.
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>>493056235
its not my fault I can't take bullets and only feel like I'm getting punched
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>>493055371
We have no way of knowing what was his idea and what he was ordered to write, and it turns out Yostar's localizer did a shit ton of heavy lifting to make his prose readable, so it's possible he's not a good writer at all.
But the volumes he was in charge of were the best ones (outside of their shitty conclusions) so he probably has entertaining ideas at the very least.
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>>493054406
>Shishou is a fucking based retard that gets almost killed at the start of the game trying to save a girl he barely knows while fighting a giant monster
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>>493056728
All of his ideas are stolen from jap writers like nasu kem
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>>493056871
Heh.
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>>493056871
it would be cool if he comes in and parries something, but his katana breaks and he has to rely on Kohane
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>>493005776
Is this an old interview? Cha Min-Seo was confirmed to have left nexon months ago. It was in the same announcement that also said isakusan, hwansang, and like 2 other PDs left
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>>493053392
Would like to see not-Neru, not-Karin, not-Fuuka and not-Kayoko.
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you people say that gameplay doesn't really matter, but the cute girls crushing on (you)
but if this were true why don't you simple play a VN? sure gameplay is something seconday on BA but it's still actual gameplay, even if shitty
if a game gets no gameplay it will get much harder to sell it, because it's a VN.
i'm serious, how would you even shill a gacha VN? even with the best artists and directors getting public will be hard. hopefully we get at least a shitty gameplay, the worse thing that could happen is no gameplay at all
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They are trying to cancel our lead artists bros...
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>>493057435
Do you think I only play gacha games? I have no problem with VNs.
I do expect there will be gameplay but I hope it's not combat shit because I'd prefer combat to be written and have cool CGs and stuff.
Maybe the gameplay could be like a dorm management sim or something, like if BA's cafe (and Hina event) was the whole game.
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https://poal.me/oqtyto
>https://poal.me/oqtyto
https://poal.me/oqtyto
>https://poal.me/oqtyto
Lets settle this
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>>493057435
The worst part about BA is by far the gameplay. And I don't mean the part where you click skills while the students do everything themselves, I'm talking about all the baggage it brings.
Constantly moving through slow ass menus for rewards and farming gear and raids and hard modes and everything, it's all a total chore.
I'd rather KV be a full fledged VN or a mix of game + VN like Utawarerumono. If they're not doing this for the big gacha bucks then they should be able to make good anime games with fun settings while still making profit and maybe grow a brand. The gacha angle might screw them up especially with how crowded it's getting, both from the amount of gacha there is but also people's time is limited and live service games are failing left and right.
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>>493058421
Fuck off.
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Aren't this thread literally 2nd stealthy /bag/ general?
Also you guys can expect anything around c105 so almost half a year.
That's quite early to make a new general.
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>>493058335
sure you may like it, but what about the public? i'm not talking about the game itself but how to sell it. if got 00 gameplay everyone will just call it a VN and that will hit hard how many people will get into it
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>>493058421
>no add result
>filter
Nigger
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>>493058621
This KV stuff is recent so it makes sense for a few generals to discuss it. We'll be gone in a month unless they drip feed a lot of stuff.
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>>493058621
Did you miss the announcement, the c105 is in no way related to the company or the project
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Do (you) really want BA to die?
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>>493058885
I want both games to prosper then collab eventually
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>>493058885
I want both games to live.
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>>493058885
No I only want (You) and other shitposters like (You) to die.
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>>493058621
>Aren't this
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>>493014950
I'm not upset at KV and its devs (the whole nonsense about sabotage, traitors, etc.) but I would be lying if I said i wasn't a little sad that BA is almost assuredly going to decline hard as a result. Just knowing how these sorts of things go where all the original creatives leave.
Again, not ascribing blame or anything and I hope KV does end up doing well. But I'm gonna really miss BA.
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>>493058885
Honestly? I want BA to improve. Hopefully, they'll learn the lesson (to not slack off, by not releasing students that everyone loves such as Rio & Seia) if Project KV succeeds.
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Is this the first doujin?
https://x.com/Nakatokung/status/1830904245870043212
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>everyone loves
>Rio
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>>493058621
>Aren't this
Aren't you guys tired of making the same post again and again every time?
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>all the original creatives
Man that bait is already getting stale
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We won so hard KVbros
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>>493059863
>Aren't you guys tired of making the same post again and again every time?
are you really asking this on 4channel out of all places?
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>>493058885
I want Blue Archive to start doing shit again.
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>>493058421
I don't really care about BA but I really like how KV looks
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I hope there are canon futa students in this.
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>>493059886
It's not bait. Look, I know 9ml is still there, and he does good work, but he wasn't as foundational to BA as much as the isakusan+doremi+mx2j combo was. There's a string of posts above ITT that explains it very well, those 3 constantly bounced ideas off each other and were there from the very beginning all the way back in 2018. And now they're no longer involved in BA, but project KV.
Everyone else on the BA team is either too new, not in important creative leadership roles, or too low in the corporate ladder to really make a difference. That's just the truth of the matter.
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>>493058421
I don't like any of those options. I left BA when it became alt archive and every event was just 2-3 new alts.
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>>493060419
Isakusan+doremi+mx2j+hwansang combo*
those 4*
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>>493056871
>shishou's blade is american butterknife
>utterly indestructible compared to brittle pig iron blades
>can do 0 damage
>shishou's expertise is in reading and parrying all attacks
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Isakusan and Kim Yong-ha are no longer friends
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>>493060563
You won't like this game either.
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>>493060563
How long ago was that?
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>>493060563
would you rather touhou this shit up and release a million characters nobody gives a shit about?
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>>493061023
Why?
>>493061094
I stopped after Bunny Toki which was released like only a month or two after Toki's banner.
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I hate alt archive so I'm going to play the guy behind the year of Hoshino and Hina.
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This whole situation reminds me of the first year of BA where they botched their first impression but this time no Yostar to bail them out.
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>>493061282
So, since Kikyou in December last year, they've released 4 new students. Makoto, Ibuki, Umika, and Kirara. Some people don't think Shiroko Terror is an alt because they don't share affection bonuses, but her name is fucking Shiroko, I'm not falling for it.
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>>493061303
*the game by the guy
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>>493061213
You say that but there's at least 30 NPCs that people like and want to be playable that have been on the waiting room for a long ass time.
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>>493060402
This is clearly what's implied by all of them using swords
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>>493061512
I'm ready to walk into the club with Kisaki if they fucking care enough to actually add her. That might happen now though with KV.
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>>493061303
Very funny to see the people complaining about characterwank and alts say they're flocking to the game done by the very people that created those
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>Kisaki gets an event setting up her big story arc that makes it super clear exactly why we're waiting for her release
>retards still seethe about her not being released yet
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>>493060563
Right... like Azur lane? releasing new characters every update and forget the old ones ever fucking existed?
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>>493061758
When is Rio coming out?
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>>493061758
Do it now Kim-kun, fuck yo story.
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>>493058621
If they stop the drip marketing this general will die soon, but for now we want to talk about the potential of this future game
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BAnigger need to go back to /bag/
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>>493061840
There's a balance that can be struck. You don't have to go full touhou/azur lane but you don't have to go the other direction either like what BA is doing. You can count on one hand the number of new, actually playable characters released within the past year. That's fucking boring, man.
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>>493061859
>>493061885
Ask Isakusan. He’s the creative mind responsible for this, right?
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>>493061859
Probably when we deal with Malkuth
>>493061885
>fuck yo story.
This is essentially the average "alt archive" bitcher, yes. KV is going to give characters alts too, it's not going to abandon characters as soon as they're released, no matter how much you want it to. If you just want constant new thing go play Granblue with like 300 characters who sometimes go a decade with no real content.
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>>493062110
We have 10 new playable characters released within the past year, not counting the 3 collab characters.
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>The Not Hifumi shilling will stop after her story since the Hifumishill is at Yostar
Nvm fuck this game
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>I will follow the guys that turned BA into Alt Archive because fuck Alt Archive
You guys aren’t very bright huh?
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>>493062449
Kohanefags lost...
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So what do they even have to show to publishers. They've already made it official the vn at c105 is by a doujin circle unrelated to the company so what else even is there besides the Red Archive PV?
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>>493062835
Do you think they show us everything they've created the moment they create it? You think they have literally nothing drawn, written, composed, planned, that they haven't shown us?
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>>493062630
I don’t know what that means and I don’t care. Dev circlejerks are cringe, I’m here for the game and only the game.
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>>493063004
>show off Day 1
>show nothing Day 2
nta but they might actually have, and if they're spending time on that vn they're not "officially" making it might be a while before we see anything more
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>>493063345
You might have forgotten they had to do an apology day 2. But also no of fucking course they have a design document to show to publishers, don't be stupid
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>>493008526
I could see it. If these dudes suddenly joined another big corpo after leaving everyone would be way more mad.
Nips are always getting poached. Maybe this time they poached back.
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The game better be horny as hell because it's going to be hard for it to go back from the impression its built already
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>>493062249
>kv alts
I can only hope they have a better system for them

student base momos
>generally outlines the character

>student (outfit) momos
>more about (outfit) than the student
>advancing the student's story is a rare sight

not to mention the bullshit involved in the mixed rarity/availability
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honestly
i hope they go extra hard on alt archive
keep the cast small, introducing new dorms of 3ish chars very rarely. give everyone a lot of screentime and alts and let people really focus on collecting and maxing all versions of their favorite girl
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>>493063345
Don't you know no news is good news?
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>>493027671
It's not a VN, it's a mobile game.
The VN's purpose is most likely to introduce the characters and the setting hoping that a publisher picks it up and invests in it while also being promo material to the general public, the company is registered specifically as a mobile software development company while the game is registered as an online multiplayer
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>>493058885
I already quit BA a long time ago so I don't really give a shit either way. My interest in KV does not depend on BA whatsoever.
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>>493065004
just play nikke if you want horny slop
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>>493066713
>Collab spam
>Most of the girls look the same
Nta but other than Elegg, no thanks.
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>>493066713
>AIslop and hags
hm nyo
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>>493004203
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>>493067312
Why would Azusa do such a thing?
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>>493066713
>just play nikke if you want horny slop
>>493027964
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>>493067312
For the people asking what makes isakusan a good writer, I'd say part of it is the way he takes comedic stuff like this or bank robbery or Schrodinger's swimsuit and makes it seamlessly fit into the serious parts of the story.
Of course Vol1Ch3 and Vol3Ch4 had none of that which was why they were shit.
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>>493066713
>t.ranny
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>>493066713
This is one of main artists of KV >>493058219 you dont like it? then fuck off
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>>493047424
I'm in no way an amateur when it comes to gacha games but it still amazes me that people genuinely act like this when no one bats an eye when there are genuine sex-having couples in actual video games that don't end up pandering to the player. money really fucks people's brains up, huh?
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>>493069181
Then please just keep playing mihoyo slop camera-kun, WE dont want your kind here
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>>493053392
ALL
OF
THEM
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>>493066417
this but unironically
garupa exists and would've been god tier if it had momos
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>>493069181
ESLpag.....
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>>493067831
b.hoshino backing down from showing us her swimsuit in the momos is a fucking crime
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>>493069181
>but it still amazes me that people genuinely act like this when no one bats an eye when there are genuine sex-having couples in actual video games that don't end up pandering to the player.
None cares if there is pairing in game retard, the problem is when they switch and bait the player like this, and if you are not a amateur you know what i am talking
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>>493069181
>I'm in no way an amateur when it comes to gacha
How you to tell me you are shitskin without telling me you are shitskin
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>>493067831
I like his sense of humor too but the Vol.3 finale was a masterpiece without the comic relief, perhaps the best output from Isakusan so far.
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>>493069450
>>493070215
I don't even like Genshin you disingenuous fucks, though I admit I care even less for people like you who can't see the point because you're too enraged by the idea of a game that you don't even play wanting to portray a world that doesn't just exist to pander to (You).
>Bait and switch
>In a modern Mihoyo game
You baited yourself, retard. Did you not realize what you were in for when you saw a male character in the trailer? You niggers already play BA and countless other great (You) games, but still feel the need to shit up a completely unrelated thread with your autistic sperging? I'm sorry if I have absolutely no sympathy for what happens to you and your game.
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>>493072047
vol3 finale was shounen slop that completely disregarded the retard club which is what we initially signed up for
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>>493072420
>feel the need to shit up a completely unrelated thread with your autistic sperging
Do you lack any self awareness?
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Who the fuck is going to pick this up anyways? I'm talking about investors. Right now this whole thing is more of a hot shit than a promising project with the amount of drama it created. The way those guys managed the announcement backfired terribly as it feels more of a middle finger for the fanbase than anything else. I doubt Nexon or Yostar feel particularly offended by it, meanwhile the fans of BA were left with a sour taste that the game they love and supported for years was treated like nothing but a stepping stone for some random guy's ego.

KV right now has nothing to offer and I doubt a lot of investors will look at it for what has been shown and instead will look at it some sort of BA clone to mold to their liking. But the amount of lewd the creators are trying to put it will definitely scare a lot of good names who don't share those views; leaving KV with a small amount of options. Yostar would definitely pick the project any other day, but I'm sure there is some bad blood between them.

The worst part is that anything they showed so far, and anything they show during C105 will most likely be discarded once the production starts. No way investors will allow them to copy everything from BA, even if they are the original creators. Yostar are chinese at the end of the day and I'm sure Nexon's lawyers are already preparing a case if that ever happens. And I shit you not, those guy have been dealing with all the legal shit Nexon had during the years, a company that should have been disappeared more than once because of their shitty practices that were discovered.

It feels like a huge pipedream Isakusan and friends are having. Extreme lewdness is hard to sell, most investors don't get into that shirt, already burnt bridges with one of them, chance of getting sued if you copy too much from your old project, fans turning against you and calling you a traitor. I hope that, for their own good, those guy take their sweet time to release whatever KV will be.
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>>493072967
Where's her red bush?
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>>493072971
Shut up Seia
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>>493072971
There's only one man who can save them now
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>>493072420
>but still feel the need to shit up a completely unrelated thread with your autistic sperging?
Like how you are doing it right now mihoyotranny? go back
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https://x.com/C_Usui_r18/status/1830831915349557667
Finally
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>>493072971
>it feels more of a middle finger for the fanbase than anything else
Not to anyone who isn't mentally ill
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>>493072971
If K-sloppa like Nikke can succeed, KV can too.
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>>493072420
You know this is gonna be a waifu game too? right?
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>>493072782
>>493073370
You retards started it by hijacking actual discussion on a new project to talk about shipping and yuri and harems and other completely unrelated stuff. Don't try to pin this on me, you absolute filth.
>Mihoyotranny
Can't read, ESL-kun? One more time for the intellectually challenged: I don't like Mihoyo, and never will. But I hate you people more than I hate the billion dollar corporation. How about YOU fuck off to wherever you came from?
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>>493074268
>>493074272
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>>493074272
Do you at least play BA ? or any game like that? or you are just tourist stirring shit?
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What if Isakusan was sending indirect messages to Nexon in all these events he wrote before he quit?
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>>493074692
just like kojima...
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>>493074692
What would Nexon's patented synthetic seasoning be in this scenario?
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>>493074272
>Im gonna seethe about waifufags, in waifugame made from waifu pandering devs
I think i found the problem anon
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>>493074897
FOTM NPCs
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>>493074272
>Don't try to pin this on me, you absolute filth.
You started the discussion by defending mihoyo btw >>493069181
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>>493069181
>SAAR I'M IN NO WAY AN AMATEUR WHEN IT COMES TO GACHA GAMES SAAAR PLEASE DONT SHIT ON MIHOYO SAAAR
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>>493074578
>>493075002
>>493075262
BA (EN and JP), Snowbreak, Eversoul. I'm as much of a waifufag as anyone else here, and I refuse to engage in media that doesn't cater to my tastes. The difference is I don't feel the need to bring other unrelated media into the conversation in some half-baked effort to claim the moral high ground. I'm not defending Mihoyo here and never will. And what's the end goal here? Cope? What even is there to worry about? KV and BA will be fine, both have come back from far worse.
>>493075584
>Stop talking about unrelated things = stop defending billion dollar corporation
Fuck off ESL, no one wants your monkey kind here.
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KV WILL WIN
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>>493004203
would these girls let shishou drink their sweat
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>>493075780
>BA (EN and JP), Snowbreak, Eversoul. I'm as much of a waifufag as anyone else here, and I refuse to engage in media that doesn't cater to my tastes.
Then why do fuck are we fighting in first place?, we have same goal, just tell retards to stop bringing unrelated games and end of the discussion KEK
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drew the funny, color tomorrow
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>>493073818
Shift Up wasn't even known to Japan by any means and pulled this off, I dare say KV's success is guaranteed as long as the vision of the team is solid or even better.
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>>493076516
Because he's lying, retard. He was upset about calling couples cuckshit here >>493069181 not about bringing up other games
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>>493076516
>Just tell retards to stop bringing unrelated games and end the discussion
That's what I've been trying to do dude, but retards like >>493076982 don't want to listen.
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>>493076712
Not bad. Very cute.
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>>493075780
>I'm not defending Mihoyo here and never will. And what's the end goal here?
Shit the thread that is YOUR goal here, tranny
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>>493073676
No sane person plays gachas
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Will they post something (that isn't an apology) today?
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>>493072971
>Extreme lewdness is hard to sel
Nikke makes 4 times the money of what BA makes, and that is without counting the PC client
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>>493070215
>like this
They are not a couple, they will never be a couple, Noelle is still for (You). Every single piece of "cuck" drama from that game is from the same Chinese freaks who melted down over the Jantama collab.
They're part of the same military organization so they talk to each other, and if that alone offends you then sure don't play the game. I >>493047147 was simply telling >>493046929 that you're not "just a spectator of characters bonding together", because you're not. I don't know why the retard you replied to decided to bring it back up when it was done, since the guy he replied to was clearly a shitposter not worth engaging with. You probably are too, but since you at least pretended otherwise with "None cares if there is pairing in game retard" I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for this one single post.
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>>493078104
If they don't then we're probably doomed.
I want to know about the other onsen girls.
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>>493074692
Seems plausible ngl lol
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wait this is cute
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>>493078464
You seem to know much about that game, and it looks like you play that game, maybe you can fuck off and go back there? I dont give shit about if your game is cuck game or not, if you bring a unrelated game to the thread im gonna call it cuck game just make (you) seethe
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hope you do that to the ba posters as well, considering ba's producer retweeted that ba and kv are unrelated.
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>>493081586
No since BA is connected to KV like it or not, your mihoyo slop is unrelated and hated by the people here, again dont like people shitting on your game? then go back street shitter
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>>493078464
>Noelle is still for (You)
HAHAHAHAHA good joke anon
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I am going to get these girls pregnant.
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>>493082160
Cygames is going to be the publisher and tell you that girls with halos can't become pregnant.
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>>493082416
Good thing they break their halos is a good thing in this one
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>>493082706
Only the Hoshino and Shiroko expies while the vast majority of girls never get the powerup, including (You)r wife.
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>>493076712
Really nice anon
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>>493083438
Really hope shishou is actually good at fighting and isn't just literally sensei.
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>>493084354
I can't imagine he wouldn't be given his title.
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>>493004203
I wish I could smell this image.
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>>493084354
He'll be unarmed just like Sensei because the best swordsmen don't need swords but he is skilled in unarmed combat and his greatest feat will be a Shirahadori when Saori(KV) attempts to strike him down.
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This isn't subtle at all.Isakusan was self-inserting in Haruna at that point lol.
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>>493084354
Don't worry. Shishou wins fights by spamming perfect deflects and double overhead strikes.
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>>493086863
I just realized Kaoru looks like librarian Haruna
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why is everyone using a sword?
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>>493087881
*superior katana steel folded 2000 times
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katanas are cringe
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>>493088628
You're cringe!
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>>493080991
I can see them
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They're going to post something today, r-right?
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>>493091273
4pm in japan, I don't think so
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>>493016780
They need investors for the game if they waited a year they probably burn through their personal funds how else will a scenario writer like pika nigga live without an income for a year? They need to do it now it's just that they didn't expect the shit storm that followed
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>>493091464
nta
I agree that they had to come out with *something* right now, but the only thing they didn't expect is people not taking their side
they came out swinging by adding halos and calling their doujin circle that
I think they were all on a high after walking out of Nexon and now they finally sobered up
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>>493092540
what's wrong with the circle name?
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>>493092540
It is Isakusan's world and you know what? If KV looked better than BA even without all the rings, the shitstrom would have followed anyway quite obviously just look at how the Nexon crusaders are going after MX2J's scalp for any excuses. Isakusan and KV are just straightforwardly tanking everything without pussyfooting and that is the right move. The only correct answer even.
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>>493091464
they were getting paid 600k/yr they'll be fine on their savings
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All you retards going on about investors are fucking retarded. It's clear what their plan for finances are and it's simple. Well, maybe you are shitposters because not many are this dumb
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Everyone is stupid except for me, the smart one. Unfortunately my genius cannot be understood by the likes of imbeciles such as you, so I will not be elaborating. Good day to you, retards.
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>It's clear what their plan for finances are and it's simple
And yet they couldn’t even plan out a simple marketing stunt…
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>>493092917
Dunno if it is just the koreans malding again, but they seem to seem to interpret it as a middle finger against BA.

黒ネズミたちのパトス的弁証法

But yeah, not many people who speak Korean, Japanese and English.
The language barrier is gonna mess up something somewhere.
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>>493095064
>not many people who speak Korean, Japanese and English.
Many Korean weebs learn Japanese, are they as bad at English as the Japanese are?
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>>493095064
That seems like a very paranoid and uncharitable interpretation
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>>493095838
they have deepl and chatgpt
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>>493095064
Nothing in that name indicates anything as a middle finger against BA. Koreans just look like butthurt losers over shit like this. Something being dialectical doesn't mean what they think it means.
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looks like korean nikkefags love raiding on korean blue archive communities
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news in 6 minutes... surely...
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>>493096618
I don't blame them honestly, BAfags have proven themselves to be the most psychotic, entitled bitches in the community at this point. Even here you have losers from /bag/ sucking nexcon's dick over the people who actually made the things they like which was mindblowing to witness. Literal corporate golems in the making
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>>493097820

amazing, pretty sure we will get pornge
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new art time bitches
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>>493097820
Is that fucking Deadflow?
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What do you think about our Abydos trio?
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>>493097820
Never beating the eroge allegations
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>>493097910
yes
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>>493097820
/bag/gots will say they plagiarized New Year Fuuka's scooter
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is this really just eroge?
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>>493094529
They did fuck up, but not in any that fucjs with revenue
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anyway they retweet his red taiga art too
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>>493098043
>one of the most popular scooters irl
anyone saying that has to be trolling
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>>493097820
That blond girl is really cute, do we know her name yet?
>>493098132
based
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>>493098132
>red taiga
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pregnancy system confirmed
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>>493098112
>but not in any that fucjs with revenue
>Marketing
>Not affecting revenue
That take is beyond retarded since it has everything to do with revenue. But that's besides the point since they aren't getting any revenue right now. They've actually been doing a decent job at it until recently by commissioning art from big named artists but they should allocate some of those funds for a Japanese PR or Marketer since it'll go a long way making more fumbles in the future.
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>>493092917
if it's a coincidence it's a very unfortunate one
but it fits the rest of the puzzle too well to be a coincidence
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>>493097820
Deadflow...
Not you to...
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>>493098112
it's not an unaffordable fuckup since it wasn't certain they would be able to go to comiket in the first place
but turning a 60% chance to succeed on your first major marketing move into a 0% chance is something that does in fact affect revenue
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It's going to be funny if it's going to be another case of success of a thing being entirely reliant on tard wrangling it's creator and huge effort of everyone else on the team.
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>>493099704
escaping the leash was the entire point of kv tho
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>>493099704
Don't worry bro he's pretty clear with his vision. Everything is going to be daijoubu.
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>>493099000
Couldn't that also just refer to the circle making money off of the game without the company getting any?
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>>493099942
>that concept art
thanks I needed a reminder on why I was so fucking pissed at that game
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>>493098891
>>493099328
That's the thing. They fucked up going to comiket. Key thing to note is that it's not anything that necesarily messes with the success of selling their doujin products. Comiket is cool, but is by no means anything important to something that already has a lot of attention and interest. It's far more helpful for smaller things to be there that do not have nearly as much of a following. And as said before there is no revenue yet until they actually make something, which is the vn. And it's perfect really, cheap, easy, appeals to its crowd well. So long as they don't continuously fuck up their distribution plans then the recent drama is nothing beside an emotional disappointment
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>>493100108
i'm not the anon pointing to the gook schizo pasta
i'm only saying they're vocally anti-nexon
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we're gonna be the loli version of nikke, aren't we
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Managing to make Nexon look sympathetic is a pretty wild thing to achieve.
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>>493101071
Among a minority of KR bootlickers and zoomers too young to understand what an absolute shitshow of a corporation nexon is, maybe. Aka worthless losers who dont matter one single bit
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>>493101071
it's gooks, they take corporate slavery on a whole other level, even more so than the japanese
nexon had a single card to play and it seems like it was a critical hit: d1 guys were obviously well paid so they must've been greedy right? totally not because nexon wanted to double down on sanitizing BA
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>>493101339
>leaving because of pay
That was such a ridiculous claim to make, but it might've worked precisely because of that.
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>>493101339
Can you guys please move on from this narrative that Gooks are cooperate bootlickers? It's the fucking country that sends protest trucks to companies and demands their execs to apologies for their fuck ups. Despite the fact that Nexon literally just got hit with some controversy just a month ago with Maple Story and absolutely got destroyed by them the gooks still sided them just shows that Isakusan was not completely innocent in all of this.
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>>493101765
And yet they paypig for maplestory anyway. 20+ fucking years in the making. Talk is cheap, their actions show them as the corporate golems they really are
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>>493101765
I call 'em like I see 'em
Anywhere else in the world the original creators of an IP leaving a soulless corp to make their own legally distinct but mostly the same project would get massively cheered on.
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>>493101765
>shows that Isakusan was not completely innocent in all of this.
It shows that they wanted him to continue working on BA and are having the same kind of meltdown they do about everything else they don't like.
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>>493101765
Imagine being this much of a fucking apologist for nexon of all companies. Might as well have a barcode etched on your forehead with a scalpel you worthless serf.
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>>493102250
like dark and darker? it's funny to have similar situations happen to nexon twice in such short timeframe
also the goodwill from kim yongha probably play a part, there wasn't any dirt on him in this project
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>>493102139
That's why Maple Story 2 is still alive, right?
>>493102250
>leaving a soulless corp while trying to court another soulless corp to invest in them to budget their next mobile
If it really was an project of passion then they'd indie instead of making another game that's purely to get your money (gacha)
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>>493102645
You don't understand, this time will be different. Its a passion project, I trust Isakusan.
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>>493102609
Wdym dark and darker? That shit proved nexon's shadiness once more. Even the western press was reporting on it and in the end the courts found no wrongdoing
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>>493102645
You need money to do things.
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>>493102810
And sucking off another soulless corporation that's probably going to kneecap you and another gacha game isn't the only way to make money.
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>>493102916
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT
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bing
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>>493099328
>turning a 60% chance to succeed on your first major marketing move into a 0% chance
They will be on the comiket with upcoming VN anon, just not as a part of Dynamis One. And the 60% thing is just a number, if it is prominent big-shot artists they are almost 100% guaranteed, all those dropouts were either some extremists or had very poor quality.
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>>493102645
The difference is that nexon makes even your average soulless corpo look good. There's a reason why nexon has been a dirty word for so long in both the west and Japan. They didn't even market nexon's name at all when launching BA in Japan at first, because they knew their name was worth less than dirt.
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>>493102568

When people think of the people behind blue archive they don't think of ''the nexon company'' they think of the Blue Archive dev team.

I don't think anyone actually likes Nexon as a whole, it's always been a pretty hated company.
People generally care about BA as a game, and not as part of a company.

Most accusations against people doing shit to Nexon are not to defend Nexon.
They're are pretty much excuses/justifications to shit on the ''traitors'' who pissed them off.
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>>493102916
>And sucking off another soulless corporation that's probably going to kneecap you
When did this happen? Regardless gachashit allows a lot more flexibility than other types of games and allows for much more content
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>>493103250
>a lot more flexibility than other types of games and allows for much more content
Yeah like overall worse gameplay that needs to be monetize. But sure the passion project needed the virtual casino to run the "Story he wanted to write."
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>>493103239
Yeah, and the blue archive dev team no longer exists because they're now at dynamis one. I get people liked BA the game but there's no future for it anymore, seeing as all the important creatives who built it up since year 0 are gone and now nexon has full creative control over it. people need to get over it already instead of crying and shitting their pants over some conspiracy nonsense.
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>>493103526
>overall worse gameplay
He's a writer
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>>493103776
>He's a writer
Then he should know gachas as a medium will overall make the story worse since you need to run it as a service and force to drag it out with no end sight even if you don't want to like with his idol Nasu.
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>>493103946
>gachas as a medium will overall make the story worse
Worse than what? He presumably wants to write a gacha and you can't write a regular game like a gacha.
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>>493104240
Please enlighten me as to how writing for a gacha is any different from any game? Blue Archive story is entirely on a visual novel format like plenty of actual games so I don't see how it could be any different.
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>>493103946
>>493104438
Nta, but you first said that gacha writing is inherently because it needs to dragged for the longevity of its service but then ask how its any different? If anon is right about isakusan wanting it to be a gacha he writes for then clearly dragging it out is what suits his vision. I am generally not a fan of such but if it is what they see fit then I wont complain
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>>493104438
Here's a question for you instead. What do you think actually happened with the GSC president? That will never get answered.
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>>493104438
A real game requires an overarching plot and constant progression towards its ending. With gacha you can meander as long as you want and go off on a detour whenever you want. You also write it as it's going on
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>>493104438
Real VNs are literally dead though
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>>493104761
???
It's not early 2000s anymore you can update your games and people will wait
>>493104863
>With gacha you can meander as long as you want and go off on a detour whenever you want. You also write it as it's going on
Side Quests are a thing. You can even add more of them if your game updates.
Isakusan was gracious enough to leave a high paying job isn't he also gracious enough to his fans to make a game with a one-time purchase or more with updates instead of gacha?
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>>493102734
did they? weren't they found guilty solely because they were dumb enough to use nexon assets in the new game? I'm only going by hearsay so I'm genuinely asking
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>>493104789
What frustrates me is that the writer who came up with the hallows and the weird academy setting is never going to explain why those things exist.

And well, maybe he also felt bad about that, since he was planning to ''continue'' it in his next project.
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>>493105187
>provide free updates and starve
>publish a million DLCs and risk not having a cheap onramp for anyone who isn't a day 1 player
>stick to the gacha live service that the fans are already used to
it's pretty obvious which one works if you want kv to last years into the future
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>>493105542
>a one-time purchase or more with updates
Never even said free updates.
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>>493105187
>It's not early 2000s anymore you can update your games and people will wait
Okay, you just hate gacha, I take it. I really dont of any other non gachas that update their stories as frequently as gachas though. You could bring a good wxample if you want
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>>493105187
Side quests in the main story still have to fit into it and nobody is going to open a game after they've completed it to play a 10 minute side quest dlc. Also however gracious he is has nothing to do with the fact you need money to develop games.
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>>493105692
DLCs or multiple installments are roughly equivalent in this scenario
hell, multiple installments are even worse because it's harder to offer the older ones for free without being rushed by steam niggers saying "just wait for sale"
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qingyi's slow banner
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>>493106368
>>493106368
>>493106368
fixed the pv link
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>>493105734
>I really dont of any other non gachas that update their stories as frequently as gachas though
Huh? Why does it have to be frequently as gachas? It's his story and he didn't even wrote everything previously.
>>493105865
>Side quests in the main story still have to fit into it and nobody is going to open a game after they've completed it to play a 10 minute side quest dlc.
Anon the main game doesn't have to have the main story finish and can continue with updates along with adding side stories.
>Also however gracious he is has nothing to do with the fact you need money to develop games.
Again it doesn't have to be gachas.
>>493105910
>multiple installments are even worse because it's harder to offer the older ones for free without being rushed by steam niggers saying "just wait for sale"
This is probably the biggest demerit for it. Looking at the Destiny store still makes my skin crawl. But still the updates doesn't have to be small and frequent and could be larger and less frequent the story eventually has to end no? It going gacha just makes it feel like it's milking it for all it's worth without any substance which isn't what you want if you truly are a passionate writer.



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