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>About
Throne and Liberty is a PC and console MMORPG offering a mix of tab target and action combat with a shared emphasis on both PvP and PvE. The game features a seamless open world, adaptive weather systems, and a shapeshifting mechanic that lets players transform into animals for exploration and combat strategy. The game uses a free-to-play model with various microtransactions; cosmetics, convenience items, battle passes, and more. The Western publisher, AWS, claims to be aiming to avoid pay-to-win mechanics while enhancing player customization, choice, and experience.

>Build sites
https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides
https://metabattle.com/tl/TL_Builds
https://throneandliberty.gameslantern.com/builds
>All items and information
https://tldb.info/

>Which server are we playing on?
NA East, Lottie; Guild vidya
password 69420
EU, Benny; Guild Pettan

Previous: >>497140715
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im not watching your video guides
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>death abyss guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB_KuuL0Zsc
>cursed wasteland guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIrL6KcfIIM
>temple of slaughter guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zISfyZchSVo
>butcher's canyon guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpWK2e-3lI4
>tyrant's isle guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_3FnswzPjA
>cave of destruction guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyCaTaI-eRo
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>5 hour maintenance
>on a Friday
good night /tnlg/
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>>497230942
fpbp
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Can we leave the french shithole that is Benny already?
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>>497231036
*kisses you*
Night babe
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Why is this game so fucking addicting? I’ve been playing +16 hours per day since release
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>>497231141
I took three days off from work this week to play, I'm enjoying it a lot.
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I did a few dungeons and the tank was shit at keeping aggro maybe because I do too much damage (bow/staff chads rise up)
but that is very concerning, tanklosers need to step up and git gud, I'm not here to run in here to stand and let my macro use my skills
we need more sns/gs tanks in pve
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>game needs 5-6hours maintenances everytime for minor hotfixes

jesus if some big update gonna happen it's gonna be 6 hours + extended 6 for sure mark my words.
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>>497231141
new mmo release + classic mmo dopamine drip design + highly active social community
now all that's missing are coomer skins
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>>497231141
enjoy it while it lasts
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Is the "mixed" user review score on Steam deserved? I saw someone complain that the community is too gatekeepy and someone was complaing that the combat isn't like in Wukong so it seems like it's just a bunch of people expecting and MMORPG to not be an MMORPG. Visually this looks like a mid-00's F2P grindathon MMORPG which I have a strange nostalgia towards.
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>>497231775
steam review are complete shit and have been for a while now, valve needs to completely revamp the system
you get complete morons who'll say "I wish this was single player only" in an mmo and that moron's review as the same weight as someone who's actually literate reviewing the game
you also get a shit ton of 3rd worlds complaining that the game doesn't run well on their 15 years old intel celeron and GT9800, it's beyond time valve changes it completely or removes it
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Is the maintenance done yet?
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>>497231141
i dont feel that way at all. lv40 on my first char and it feels bland and boring like new world, lost ark, final fantasy. just a soulless gookgrind
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>>497232093
Yes.
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How does the typical endgame day in this game looks like? What is there to do?

Is it really over for me unless I join a guild? is there a way to enjoy this game solo and make some meaningful progress? I am not asking to be handed best gear in game, but just enough to enjoy all the content.
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>>497232130
>soulless gookgrind

Pretty much. Theres a new one every couple years.
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>>497232343
you can get all the top tier farmable gear playing solo
guild content exclusive drops are only lucent and archboss weapons, everything else is farmable with the matchmaking
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>>497232343
>Is it really over for me unless I join a guild?
you're handicapping yourself in this game if you don't join a guild, there is a lot of perks to being in one, like guild buffs, guild vendors, guild contracts and rewards.
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Are there bot programs for automating any kind of progression in this game? Thinking I'm going to explore the game for free, and if I can get away with it find a bot to push me into mid-late game. Or just pay a chink to do it.
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>>497232464
>>497232487
Thanks guys. How does the pve endgame content in this game look like? I am more pve than pvp. I understand the game is mostly pvp but I am really enjoying it. What are my options? I know there are dungeons, but not raids.
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>>497232343
join a guild that's not snatching your items away, look at the distribution config in guild tab to see if they have the items distributed to guild checked. if yes immediately leave the guild.
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>>497232681
>pve endgame content
dungeons, contracts, abyssal farm
you can also do world events, but those are better with a party and a guild
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>>497232681
there is guild raids

https://thronelibertydatabase.com/guild-raids/
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>>497232802
man I hate how much content is locked behind guilds in the game
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>>497230942
>open dungeon guide
>45 minutes long
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>>497232904
that's why I posted the 3 minutes guides
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>>497232874
unfortunately it is, but I have no problem with joining a guild so not a big deal to me
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>>497232952
>that's why I posted the 3 minutes guides
are those your videos? if so, thank you, I have used them and they helped so I don't go in blind.
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>>497232975
>Lucent: 0
Bricked
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>>497232130
You picked the wrong weapons
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>>497232975
Bro thats literally Gul'dan LMAO
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>>497231357
It's not even a meme that we are the chads of this game. If the tank is retarded at aggro holding then i always end up with it because i don't use cruise control and since I'm a bowchad staffking i can just solo everything while healing myself. The other members of the group are mostly for show and mechanics
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>>497233062
>buying lucent and not using it
it can be remedied with a simple swipe
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>>497232975
Sure but if you get kicked or people just stop playing it's like you lose so much of the game
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Can someone give me tldr on abyss coins (with skull icon) on how to use them, where to use them etc. Thanks in advance.
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>>497233182
yeah, you're right
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>>497233052
ofc they are not my videos, I post them because they are short and useful
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>>497233271
>abyss coins (with skull icon) on how to use them, where to use them etc.

you spend them automatically in the open world dungeon areas like Syleus's Abyss and Ant's Nest by killing in them.

https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/resources/open-world-dungeons-guide
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>>497232573
Support your local economy at least and get a local chink to do it
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>>497233093
dagger/xbow, what should i pick then?
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what's the best staff secondary wep i just want to be a mage
i was in the middle of trying bow staff before shutdown but it felt a bit clunky
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>>497230876
>maintenance
It's fucking saturday. Well done amazone.
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>>497233470
>https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/resources/open-world-dungeons-guide
Cheers mate, i knew i was doing something wrong when i wanted to use dungeon contracts but it said i was havent unlocked that region yet even tho i was standing in the dungeon..
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>>497233470
>>497233969
on a very related note since i was watching it as you posted if anyone else is wondering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXkNMyoFFzw&ab_channel=GunghoGunsGaming
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>>497233621
it is a bit clunky until you unlock more shit, I assume all "classes" are that way though

staff stuff to consider in order of how good they are
>bow/staff 1
>wand/staff 2
>dagger/staff 2
>sns/staff 3?
>gs/staff - meme tier unfortunately as far as I'm aware
even though it sounds and looks cool, just like my beloved gs/wand :(

Take my numbering system with a grain of salt except bow/staff is unironically powerful as fuck
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>>497233470
what stuff that oyu need drops in open dungeon?
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>>497234149
to expand on the last two if i were to give them a number
>gs/staff ....5
>gs/wand ...............12
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>>497234189
watch the vid >>497234081 from 11:20 onward, answers it nicely.
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>>497234189
>what stuff that oyu need drops in open dungeon?

Cornelius's Animated Edge for PVE tanking sns in Syleus's Abyss 3F and Shadow Harvester Trousers dropped from Junobote in Sanctum of Desire.
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Also, running the abyssal dungeons using your tokens is a fast way to level up weapon mastery levels.

>Having Abyssal Contract Tokens (at the top right-hand corner) gives you the Abyss Contract Buff. The buff grants you a 400% EXP Bonus and a 400% Sollant Bonus inside an Open World Dungeon.
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i can't find a single word of maintenance on their officials, is it because they held them every other day?
this shit is getting ridiculous, any other mmo uses 5 hours for a big weekly/biweekly update and not some minor fixes
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>>497234491
It's Amazon. Not the first mmo americans ruin.
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>>497234342
Click throu tabs in pic related, link is >>497233470
>>497234432
Since you are spoonfeeding us, i was in Syleus 2F tho the doors to progress to lower floor were closed?
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>>497233969
>wasting contracts before Lv.50
enjoy bricking your char
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>>497234586
>Since you are spoonfeeding us, i was in Syleus 2F tho the doors to progress to lower floor were closed?

a guild milestone has to be reached,.for syleus 3 and 4...you and your guild need to defeat 50 Evil Eyes in the Mana Wastelands
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>the milestone for today was killing 50 evil eyes
>we did it in like literally 5 minutes
>now we have to wait 11 hours for abyss 3/4F
Are all the milestones 12h?
If so, I think it will be 4/5 days until 5/6 gets unlocked
>>497234586
>Since you are spoonfeeding us, i was in Syleus 2F tho the doors to progress to lower floor were closed?
they are locked behind the milestone that we completed today in 5 minutes so hmm... 4-5 hours after maint 3/4 will be open
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forgot pic
>>497234605
i am lvl 50. Did the tower contracts yesterday, tried to do other contracts tho like said before, i was standing in dungeon and clicking on contract and it said region is locked.
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>he's using his tokens before the server milestone that unlocks the GOOD dungeon
grim
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>>497234742
5/6 is in milestone 5 or 6 I can't remember off top of my head but its basically going to be a few days
3/4 should open later today a few hours after maint ends
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>>497234692
>guild milestone
Hmm, gotta check up with faggots in Pettan.
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>>497234586
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>>497234838
its done we did it while doing some other guild contract ezpz you may kneel
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changed my review to negative, I won't take another maintenance after this one, if they fuck up again I'll uninstall
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>>497235054
Vidya did it this evening.
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>>497234491
On steam it says it will be 5 hours long so 2 hours and 30 minutes left.
How fucking retarded they must be to do this today though.
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>>497235124
oh yeah they said pettan i forgot ours is vidya
They may still kneel to NAchads if they wish
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Is it suppose to take like 5 hours to spend all the abyssal tokens?
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Another tip, I ran out of powders when I was crafting, all I had to do was go to the shit gear vendor in the city near the crafting NPCs, buy 10+ weapons and dissolve them for powders.
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>>497235054
>you may kneel
Nah, since i was the only one farming golems yesterday i think it balances out. Eitherway, good job faggots, proud to be Pettan faggot.
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What guild level is Pettan?
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>>497233120
Is there a dps meter for this game because i swear to god I deal more damage than the rest of my party as sns/gs
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>>497235278
I'm a retarded american who can't read but you guys can finish the evil eye one really fast if it's not done its easy as piss
>doom monsters showing up in my vidya gjame
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>>497231440
I think part of it is also cause the game design doesnt appeal to zoomers since it isn't adhd enough so only people more in line with oldschool mmo design are attracted to the game making it a more social experience overall.

tl;dr zoomers are social retards
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>>497235361
4 last time I checked.
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>>497235380
Currently, there is no Damage or DPS meter feature in the game. It's also not a setting that can be toggled on or off. Use the Dummy Instead An alternative to a Damage or DPS meter is the Dummies found in safe areas in the in-game world. One can calculate their Damage or DPS by substracting the Dummy's health before and after attacking.
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>>497235380
no, I just go based off how many monsters are running towards me instead of being held by the tank. You probably do though. sns/gs is up there with the other god tier combos
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>>497235314
2 more hours
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>>497235472
WTF?? Vidya is 10 going on 11, Eurobads
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>>497235380
>do dungeon mechanic
>gets kicked because my DPS is low
nah fuck off
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Looking for a gaming guild:

1) You must be an American straight naturally born male 18-50(age) only guild. No exceptions.
2) The guild leader and inner circle (officers, best friends, long time members) must not be upper-middle class IRL earners.
3) You have to be okay with being a constant target of cancel culture for housing me within your guild. So no weak leaders who cave into peer pressure from rando's outside the guild.
4) If your guild has mandatory try hard raid shit that's fine cause I'm a NEET youtuber who can make any and all times with no life obligations or family.
5) I'd like a guild that does fun, trolley, lulzy shit too, not just "kill the dragon get loot" kinda shit.
6) Your guild must not contain members of the military, police, government, or schooling professions.
7) You must be okay with me creating youtube content from guild activities. No I won't record your voice or anything for public viewing.
8) You must be okay with entire large guilds declaring absolute war and total destruction on you for the mere fact you allowed me into your guild. Expect to aggro some very heavy hitters in whatever game you play. I have a very bad rep with left wingers and trannies.
9) You have to allow freedom of speech. Nothing that breaks discords rules of course, but I will not tolerate someone telling me that I cannot say certain words over voice chat or talk about certain topics.
10) You must be okay with someone who harbors extreme hatred towards nearly everything.
11) No one in the guild who creates content can be friends with the left, LGBTQ shitters. This is treason.
12) You must be in it for the LONG term. As in, a life-long guild that plays multiple games and not just one fucking thing then everyone quits when that game dies.

I can elaborate if you need me to.
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>>497235560
EU fags are split on different servers
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>>497235560
>WTF??
Benny was fucked for 3days+
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>>497235630
ahh, didn't realize it was THAT BAD
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do you target farm blue gear or go straight to purple?
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>>497235125
Fug, just got done with wörk and have to go to my wedding in 2 hours
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>>497235585
>webm
this is the funniest meme you've posted so far bravo
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>>497235380
no but I have seen some retards in-game think the gear score = dps
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>>497235657
purple is time-gated by dungeon entries
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>>497235585
top kek

>>497235657
>do you target farm blue gear or go straight to purple?
You want to get blue level gear and max level it, than transfer it to your purple
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>>497235657
Do litographs for blue gear. I got a blue chest in literally 10 minutes. You can get litograph blueprints from doing contracts
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his is actually insane. Second day in a row and ON A WEEKEND of all days and they do a maintenance again. And of course, they make sure to do it when americans sleep and when europeans log into the game.

If only they could at least alternate between good american and european times/did continent specific maintenances/chose a time that favors both continents, not just America.
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>>497235657
I just take what I get instead of targeting anything and usually it happens to be the best I could get anyways

>>497235694
>looking through the party lists
>see one that says '1800+ ONLY'
>its for the level 20 dungeon (kek)
>look inside at the players
>2 healers, 3 dps
>LF healer
kek I just use matchmaking instead of dealing with those actual retards
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>>497235694
I thought that was the cost to respec my stats lmao
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>>497235760
isn't Saturday a footy day?
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>>497235760
>when Americans sleep
I wish i was asleep instead of WAITING
>>497235843
thankfully stat reset is free otherwise I would actually have to pay attention instead of slapping them in while leveling
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>>497235819
>I just use matchmaking
Took me 45 minutes with matchmaking to get into the level 20 dungeon as a tank
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>>497235760
>when americans sleep

I've been up since noon yesterday, I've been sleeping like 7am to noon and playing when I'm awake
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>tfw guild loot council gives you Phantom Wolf Mask
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>>497235753
>You can get litograph blueprints from doing contracts
wait a second there, how? you can get those specific lithographs doing contracts? I need to change my jewelry from green to blue but I couldn't find the litographs anywhere
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>>497235948
I keep hearing this horror story but I've only had to wait a maximum of 7 minutes so far (DPS)
knock on wood and all that. I guess I just got lucky 3 times
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>>497235948
>Took me 45 minutes with matchmaking to get into the level 20 dungeon as a tank

during the week, it was taking me like 5-10 minutes to get in as a tank, tonight before maintenace it was less than a minute or two.
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when joining a guild, make sure you know how their loot distribution works, reddit is already bitching because "loot council" and distribution based on participance etc. is a thing and zoomer shitters don't know how to be social.

loot distribution is basically either: internal guild auction with lucent (whales take all items), loot council (leader and officers decide who gets drop based on how it will most benefit the guild (or if they're corrupt they'll give it to their friends), or drops go to whoever gets the drop. the latter causes the least drama, but no serious guild will use it.
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>>497235948
>in queue for 1h as a tank
>get into the dungeon
>we're 4 tanks and no healer
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So now that the dust has settled, what's the most in demand class?
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>>497235948
>took me 45 minutes with matchmaking to get into the level 20 dungeon as a tank
Kek, i've been waiting 3h+ in mm yesterday to get into Cursed Wasteland grp, no tanks around.
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>>497236127
there is only one acceptable loot system, sell the item and distribute the lucent amongs everyone that participated equally
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>>497236164
healer
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is it up?
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>>497236026
Idk about accessories, but you can get blue weapons and armour from handing in green gear which you can craft. To craft the gear get litograph parchments from contracts and then go to a crafter npc to craft the necessary gear. Obviously you need materials, but i got so many material chest from leveling it was easy as pie.
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>>497236127
>just be a good little cuck and let the clique get all your drops!

>>497236164
Healers by far
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>>497236164
unironically healer
If I make an alt I'm gonna make one of those
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>>497236136
Shouldn't matter, tank sustain is so good, i never needed heals.

>>497236058
I already got my blue SnS from my very first run so I waited for the lulz to see how long it would take. If you really want to get in use the looking for party board, i found a party in about 5 minutes that way.
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>>497236263

I'm using 1/2 slots, I'm thinking of making a healer alt too
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IT'S UP! (unironically)
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>>497236263
I have yet to play, been busy making YT videos for other games. (Albion, Once Human, Deadlock) and plan to play a healer.

Any tipperinos? I'm not watching fucking CROATIAN or KOREAN youtubers for any info. I'll watch a RED BLOODED redpilled based right-winger youtuber guide if they even play this F2P Amazon slop.
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>>497236209
>to craft the gear get litograph parchments from contracts and then go to a crafter npc to craft the necessary gear
nta but what about epic named lithographs that you need for crafting? where do you get that shit? Same goes for "Salvation" or w/e named item that you need.
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>>497236354
>I'll watch a RED BLOODED redpilled based right-winger youtuber guide if they even play this F2P Amazon slop.
HELLO, BASED DEPARTMENT OF
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>>497236127
as long as some fag who hasn't logged in for 3 days then logs in to snipe the gear doesn't get it I could really care less personally. It's funny how mad redditors are about it though. I get it in some ways but at the same time who cares.
i WILL be f2p i WILL take whatever i get i WILL outplay everyone

Does it take dungeon/abyss loot too? If it does that then I might be buttmad if I finally get my bis and it goes to guild vacuum
>>497236354
I unironically love Once Human it's really fun I just stopped playing because I'm waiting for the winter thing I'll probably miss it though because of TNL

Also yes its ACTUALLY up
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>>497236324
>it's up unironically
For once faggot ain't lying. https://www.playthroneandliberty.com/en-us/support/server-status
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DD 150 + GW looking for Hellbound party
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ghost town...
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it's actually up
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>created character
>completed tutorial
>time to choose the build
>read 100000 guides and watch 1000000 videos to choose
>finally choose my build
>don't feel like playing anymore
>uninstall
See you in 12 years for the next big MMO!
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>>497236127
https://www.reddit.com/r/throneandliberty/comments/1fvtrt0/think_before_you_join_a_guild/

plebbit already bitching about guild loot distribution
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>>497235585
>webm
I remember seeing the same template but with the twin towers in the background. Does anybody have it by any chance?
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>>497236354
The only tip I can think of off the top of my head is actually look in the settings and fuck with them to make it comfy, it makes a world of difference. Specifically the targetting section.
Wish I could give you step by step guide on it though don't remember off top.
do you like my photograph in once hooman
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>>497236564
Pretty sure BnS Neo will be out this month.
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The narrator was Kino in Dragon's Crown and she's Kino in this game.

>They were being duplicitous, it was all a ruse!
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>16kb patch
ok gooks you're pushing it
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>>497233470
there are two kinds of "abyss currency"

the contract coins get spent automatically in open-world dungeons

the abyss coins which also have a skull icon are used for crafting special equipment chests
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MEGA LAG
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>>497236676
If it targets like WoW I'll be fine. I prefer tab targeting. I've become bored of Once Human. I can't grief servers anymore.
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>Fish Steak is cooking lvl 8
I am gonna need a lot of eggs
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>>497236881
S****B**** go back to albion and stay there
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3 hours for a nothing patch, sank u america
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>>497236564
This is the first mmo in almost a decade i can get into. Before this all i playedare looter shooters and arpgs
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im already sick and tired of the dozens different kinds of materials and boxes and reagents you can grind/buy/trade/swap
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>>497237364
No brother. I am hungry.
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it's crazy how the general dies when the game comes back, people are actually playing the game
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i dont want to mess up upgrading shit skills which skills are worth it for bow wand?
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>>497237869
Read a guide, I have a game to play :^)
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Why is Wand/Bow the meta healer build and not Wand/Staff?
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aight lads, this it it, we're finally crusadin'
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>>497236881
>u pic
kek what did you do?
somehow I didn't run into a single cheater or griefer but I kept seeing people cry about them
>my pic
are YOU doing YOUR PART?
>>497238113
bow has skills and passives that buff healing other than that idk
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>want to play wand as a curse DPS
>everyone says it's only good for pvp and trash for pve
Is there really no good curse-bomb DPS build for pve? Everything must be boom boom fast direct DPS?
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>top guildies get resources/hour for being ASLEEP
>rest of the people have to wageslave for mats
So this is it huh...
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>>497238505
based I wish I could have plate armor but im a JERKIN faggot for now soon I will have a platebody though
>>497238645
I wanted to force gs/wand but i also dont want to shit up other people's lives.
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>if you morph into a monster you can avoid aggro
cool
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>>497238773
>I wanted to force gs/wand but i also dont want to shit up other people's lives.
Same here but for now I'm going sns and bring up wand later. Even if gs wand sucks I'll get to be a sns wand Chad without having the shitty leveling
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>>497238645
I think it's less about being boom boom fast dps and more about not splitting your stats/skills up in a weird way
You could always try it, just don't be surprised if gatekeeping gooks kick you because muh .00002 less dps
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>>497238514
I did the build limit, floating in the sky, on Prime Wars forcing the entire server to attempt them with no base defense or cannons.

Got patched, sadly. Also they fixed cannons on trucks to make them deal damage now.

The new grief is to use 4 alts and mass teleport into a prime war to lag it to hell but people still manage to beat them anyway.
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Would anyone on Lottie want to play when I get back home from the gym...
I'm like level 23 and still need to do some dungeons.
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The EU guild is dead
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>>497238935
kek
I went to 1 prime war and it was total aids and like 30 people got stomped by the mobs so I never went back to any of them
I solo'd manibus though
not worth took like 20 minutes of pure shooting
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>>497239093
Because it's on a shitty server
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>>497239093
come to NA or ban hue
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>>497239035
only do dungeons at 50
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>every guide recommends fireball barrage
I think this skill sucks. redpill me on why I'm wrong
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16.3kb update took 5 hours to complete...
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>>497239357
You are not, focused fireball and judgment lightning are you main skills.
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>>497239417
my schizo theory is that they do maintainence to provide a reason for them to continue being employed and just change a few text values in some random file
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Is the story mandatory or can I just go and fuck off do whatever to level? Contracts are fun
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>>497239716
story quests is your main dose of exp
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>first unreal engine crash not even 1 hour after servers go up
>never had before

thanks for the update really helped
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where do you get rare enchanted ink to make blue lithographs?
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>>497240227
Higher level contract coin rewards maybe?
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>>497240227
50 per week from contract coin shop (maybe only the kastleton one but idk)
10 ccoins each
Other than that idk for sure
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>>497240475
the one in the contractor npc is for purple gear, I bought those, the one for blue gear I can't find
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How many active skills can you have on your hotbar at once, excluding consumables keybinds? If more than 10 I'm not playing this game.
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>>497240583
>he's a pianolet
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>>497239035
ign and class
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>>497240527
oh i thought that's the one you meant. Hmm maybe its not here yet
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>>497240583
12, gamepad controls are actually really good though
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>>497236684
I don't think NCSoft are retarded enough to launch another game the same month as a global release
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the absolute state of Benny
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>>497240583
Finding bind space for 12 is easy. 1234 QERF Shift+QERF.
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>>497241176
it was said multiple times in previous threads. settings>chat>auto translate, it translates realtime in a second
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Whats a good rotation for Greatsword/Dagger
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>>497239141
You can just use a bingo build and shoot the flowers on the tentacles for massive damage and end the fight real quick.
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>>497240227
>blue
obtain method does not exist even in kr, bugged implementation
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tfw already bored from logging in an doing limited gated shit
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>>497241359
I don't care what they are saying, I simply don't want to play with them.
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>>497241719
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>>497231072
Come to Justice
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>mobs have increased drop rate during rain
Why does this game have so much hidden bullshit info?
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Kek, I keep getting server disconnected 1-2 minutes in character creation on all servers
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how to get a better fishing rod
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What growthstones should I be picking from rewards? Which are harder to get? Weapon/armor/accessory?
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This dude is cool
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>>497241897
Your mascot literally tells you to use the weather to your advantage. I wouldn't be surprised if bows shoot farther if you shoot alongside the wind
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remember:
DO NOT BRICK YOURSELF
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>>497242580
They do
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>>497242784
Lmao you can only pick 1 out of all of them?
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>>497242923
yes but the more you do the more chances at having a bis item
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30 minutes queueing for cave of desperation to complete the stupid purple quest
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>>497243107
that's just a side quest
you can and should skip it
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>>497242580
So which weather should I kill the bandits in the desert to get curry powder?
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so what is the endgame like?
is it casual friendly?
can i just chill abd play and enjoy myself?
im under the impression that the entire content is jsut pvp and you also need to be in a good tryhard guild
i like pvp but pvp as in arenas and rbgs like WoW used to have
pvp in BDO was not fun for example
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I already burned myself with AION, ArcheAge, and Lost Ark so I would like to know:
How P2W is the game?
And if not P2W right now, what are the chance it will become P2W?
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>>497242580
im 100% sure i read something in one of the skill tooltips about shooting in the direction of the wind
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>>497243541
You can literally buy best (archboss) weapons with money and faceroll f2poors in PvP.
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>>497243635
Alright, so massive skip.
I'm tired of swiping the credit card to win.

Thanks Anon.
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>>497243635
>faceroll f2poors in PvP.
Not really
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>>497243865
he's obviously exaggerating
buying something from the AH is literally worse than green upgraded items
you gotta play the game, you can' just p2w
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>>497230876
>questlog not in build links
>the objectively best build website
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>the maintenance made all guildies show as last logon: unknown again
now ill never know the people who havent been active over last week
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>>497244265
This general is sponsored by Maxroll™
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>>497243146
I queue tank, did my quest, carried the noobs to the boss and the healer couldn't keep me alive while I did 90% of the damage so I left, everyone wins
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btw if you play a meme build like gs/bow no one will take you on a dungeon
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How do milestones work? If I join a guild that already completed them do I get the progress?
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>>497244265
there was only like 4 that said unknown left last night b4 maint so its okay for now
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Is there any benefit to leveling an alt? Can you send items or mats or anything to your other character?
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Daily reminder to leave a guild which leader you are not close friends with and the Boss loot distributed to guild only.

Have a nice day
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I am not in a guild, I am in a clan
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>>497245609
more chances at loot to sell on the AH
nothing is tied except account wide unlocks like battle pass emotes (but not the battle pass itself)
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do you use stellarite on dungeons?
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>>497246189
just the final boss
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the meme press q mechanic is hard to see on low, whats the setting that makes it easier to see?
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>>497232010
those are all valid reviews.
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sns/wand is not fun
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>>497246721
it should be visible on low, if you cannot see it check the photosensitivity in accessibility settings, anything below 1.0 makes it hard to see
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>>497232343
contracts, dungeons, open world dungeons (pvp at night), timed events like world bosses. you progress faster in a guild, and the real pinnacle content, large scale pvp, is guild content.
>>497232681
they keep adding more pve content, supposedly there's a 12-man raid coming to KR soon.
>>497243524
read above.
>>497234081
this didn't need to be 20 minutes.
https://youtu.be/ggZVV3_qZU8?si=RXC1FQOu_yxiqh4p
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how do I get nature's jade?
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>>497246721
Play on everything maxed like every sane person.
What's the point of playing modern slop games on third world toaster hardware? Even on low it runs like shit and you're certainly not enjoying the game.
There are much better games you can play like all the classic MMOs on private servers.
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>>497247536
thought the same and changed to sns/gs
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>>497247570
fuck, I have that at the minimum
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>>497235657
both. traits on purples will take a long time without spending.
>>497235760
it's based on KR hours.
>>497243541
AH currency is $ and anybody can post items to get the currency.
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>>497245609
probably slightly helps f2p progress, but if you want to have a character with completely different weapons, like one ranged one melee, it's more useful just for presets.
>>497246721
I started seeing it better when I changed everything from epic to low. wish I could edit the damage numbers. you can also try offsetting your character from center.
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only one purple item, so unlucky with dungeon drops
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>2024
>can't trade with your friends in a FUCKING MMO
>meanwhile there's literal, built-in RMT system
Explain this shit.
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what to prioritize to become unkillable with sns/wand?
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>>497248365
modern p2w anti-botting
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>>497248365
sir, please understanding.
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>>497248434
healing and shielding.
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>>497248365
This literally fucks over rmtfags and p2wcucks doe
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>>497248724
>play with your friend
>he gets a piece of gear you can use but he can't
>"hey joe do you want this shit"?
>"haha no we can't trade in this gookslop"
>"RMTERS BTFO!!!"
>random bot runs in to aoe the pack of crabs you just pulled
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>>497248365
For some reason KR devs thinks it's worth to kill trading just to go after RMT shit
Meanwhile their games are always filled with bots
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>>497248934
It's literally a RMT game though? What they do is remove competition so they run the business themselves.
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>NOOO WHERE'S TRADING HOW WILL I GIVE MY FAVORITE STREAMER GEAR AND GOLD NOW!?!?!?
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so is there any real rason to play melee over ranged in this game?
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>>497247594
fishing i think-
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is this what you're supposed to do with your low level mats?
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>>497250106
how much money did you spend
cause as far as i can tell 3 star isn't possible without a few heavy hit traits
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Please tell me there's a way to stop the camera FOV from going insane on me every time I shapeshift
going bird form makes the FOV do 120>0>90>120 in very quick succession because it's changing to the bird acceleration FOV, then bugs out and goes to 0, then goes back to normal bird FOV and then figures out I'm still holding W and goes back to acceleration FOV
it's driving me fucking insane, same with the wolf/cat form, and I can't find any setting for it
SURELY after years of playtesting and several betas someone else must've found this irritating, there must be a setting for it
also is there a keybind for sheathing my weapon I'm not seeing? I keep parrying while fishing
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>Enchanted Ink shows as a Lithograph
>doesn't quick deposit with Lithograph checked
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>>497239230
???
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do you only get the lithograph book rewards once?
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>retards buying brick traits for 10+ dollars a piece
god i love milking dumb fuck whales.

>>497251451
It's best to save your dungeons til 50 to get a headstart on getting gear, but if you're gonna cap then you should do low levels anyways. Do whatever you want though

>>497251781
yes
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so some parties for tyrant isle want "exp" in their description, what does that even mean?
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>>497251842
experienced
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>>497251963
got I hate those incels so much, just do a party and run the content, it's not hard
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>>497252102
yeah you say that then you get the absolute mouth breathing glue eaters that literally can't outsmart a pigeon to save their lives.
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>>497251816
you can run dungeons for codex but not spend your tokens by not opening the chest at the end.
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lmao
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Did I brick my account by not joining a guild? I just noticed all the milestone rewards I've missed.
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>>497252157
exp and know mechs is code for
>I want to get carried
those are always the worst groups.
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>>497252241
yep... sorry, better luck next time bud.
no they're mostly trash

>>497252312
By all means go join a random queue group and see how long it takes you to kill some of the bosses.
I spent 4 hours trying to finish one dungeon across multiple groups last night because retards couldn't comprehend how to play hot potato and not all run in one direction
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>>497252157
I'd rather play with them than zoomerfags in the party finder
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>>497252241
you're a whole 3 minutes of progress behind.
it's Joever.
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>>497252241
Even if you make a new account, it will be too late. It's not your account that you bricked, it's your life. For ever and ever.
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>>497250735
0
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>get to 50
>don't like the weapons I'm using
>don't want to transfer them into other blue weapons because waste of resources
>all 50 content grants passive weapon mastery, building mastery on weapons I don't care about anymore
>can't get into dungeon groups because weapons look low quality
guess I have to bite the bullet and just craft blues of the new weapon types I want to use. it's a pain in the ass to swap builds late into the game. and you're going to have to manage multiple fully leveled and traited pieces of gear.
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So vidya is full? it says 70/70...
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>watch kanon
>he's wintrading arenas
luhmeow
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Why the fuck is flying so buggy?
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tyrant's isle in lottie, let's go
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>>497253628
It's literally copied from Aion but they somehow made it worse than the game they released over 15 years ago.
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>>497253845
>Aion was 15 years ago
where did the time go
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So what's the stat priority on gear? Are the base stats always most important?
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>>497254091
you want gear with good base stats and when fully traited out they are better than purples without traits
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I'm following a leveling guide on maxroll, I noticed the skill upgrades (that need books) are different to the ones for the pvp/pve guides. Is it a bad idea to follow the leveling one?
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>>497254091
weapons you always want the Hit trio (heavy, crit, hit)
accessories you pretty much always want at least skill damage resist and skill damage boost (will be one or the other depending on slot)

depending on your build you want to stack either evasion or endurance, most people will and should stack evasion (pick two focuses, you can't build all 3)

if you're doing pure pve then just get shit like mana regen max health etc
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>>497254554
no you're fine just get your leveling skills to purple and you should have enough to slot in whatever pvp skills to purple, there is a lot of overlap and if you don't swap weapons it wont matter much
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>>497253503
>watch Kanon
shiggy
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>>497254847
hes the only one doing arenas right now sorry man
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>>497254554
you get more than enough resources to level every skill for your 2 main weapons to purple from playing the game normally.
you only need to worry about micromanaging if you want to weapon swap.
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>>497254985
>arenas
lul
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thoughts on customization options? pretty good imo, somewhere between bdo and lost ark in terms of how characters look

also expressions are cute
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>>497255167
>the only thing in the game that requires skill
yep
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>>497255228
It's okay I just wish costumes were more broken up
but the ingame armors are mostly great looking, it's a shame you can't fucking transfer their appearances though
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>>497255229
>arena
>skills
LMAO
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>>497255503
you didn't have to out yourself as bad like that
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>>497255229
>mmo
>skill
lul
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>>497255914
I'll ft10 you in bbcf gbvs or xrd take your pick
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>>497255228
I literally just clicked the female and clicked play. I could not care less about character creators.
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>>497255374
oh... really? that sucks, I really liked one of the starter sets

>>497256038
feel like you're missing out anon
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>>497255968
you can have all the bbc you want, champ. I won't contest you.
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>>497255695
It's just a pure gear check right now
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>>497256226
>feel like you're missing out anon
on what?
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>>497256604
not really
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I fucking hate the broken twitch drops. Time just randomly stops logging for hours despite the stream running. It's been a fucking day for 6 hours somehow.
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>>497256656
other parts of the game, when I focus purely on gameplay and gearing up I feel like I get burned out way faster

especially in mmos, but that just might be me
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I wonder if this game will be dead and buried by Christmas or if it has any chance at all to succeed
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>>497257838
Everyone will play Osrs (leagues V) so yeah.
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>>497257134
144p in its own window, leave it open and you won't have issues. It stops counting if it's in another tab/paused.
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>maintenance was to fix EU auction house
>it still lags like before
???????????????????????
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>>497258971
>Osrs
I'm talking about white people
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>>497258971
nobody is excited about the upcoming league
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>>497260024
Is that why the player amount will spike during that time...?
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So are you supposed to actually bother with PvE gearsets or do you just run your PvE content in PvP gear?
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>be fresh 50 bow/wand healcuck doing contracts
>see some staff casually pull 10 mobs and killing them as fast as i can 1 with all my cd's
>healing sucks ass in dungeons full of bumbling retards not doing mechanics or using their Q
>in arena get 0 contri for healing at all
>no chance at winning in any kill events

this game gonna have a massive healer problem like i can't remember a past MMO having such an unfun healer experience as this one
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>>497261256
ffxiv
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>>497261256
I have to agree with >>497261298, healing in that game is genuinely fucking mind numbingly boring.
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How the fuck do you avoid running OoM against bosses? I find myself completely tapped a lot of the time while my party are still almost full.
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the combat in this game is so bad..how ae you people enjoying this
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>>497261915
your party is either playing crossbow, staff, or not doing any damage.
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keep dying dumb ways on toublek, I died every possible way already, died being a rat, died to the slam, died not getting on the geyser and now lastly died because I had the setting to auto move in range to attack, so I got on the geyser, clicked him, moved out of it and died
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>>497261707
>>497261298
well i never really played ffxiv due to the slow as gcd at the beginning completely turning me off that game
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I understand that you want to level greens to 6 and then transfer to blues. But how do traits work? Do they transfer over? If yes, what if the target item has no traits? If yes, should you unlock traits before transferring like you do with leveling them up?

This is too fucking confusing
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>>497261256
do the dungeons is great content for healers, contracts will be a pain in the ass but only until you get a decisive snipiing, nook, strafing leveled up
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>>497262818
Healers only have 2 dps buttons (a regular spell and a DoT) that they press for 95% of a fight. Every minute they have a slightly stronger attack. Because fights in that game are 100% scripted, there is no reactionary healing required - you just have all of your healing skills planned out to be pressed at certain points of the fight. Outside of that, you're spamming 1 button on loop for the rest of it while renewing a DoT every 20 seconds or so.
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just made a character and thought i should do xbow/dag but it feels kinda clunky
is that just how the game is?
should i pull through and get used to it or are other weapon combos more fluid?
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what's the easiest, lowest APM DPS for a salary man ojisan like me?
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>>497263789
it is not bow staff because I have to press 10 skills and press q to dodge spells and move it's all very complicated
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why are we allied with the literal biggest gays on the server
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>>497263983
it's called ironic shitposting, you wouldn't get it, lurk moar
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Was this the GOTY-est quest in the game, nay, in any MMO?
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Sani owes me sex
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>>497264204
Eboy owes me anal
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sorry for being a tourist, but is lost ark and lost ark general giga ded?
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how do i make basic attack not feel like shit to use
i want it to work with left click
i want to be able to spam left click and not have the skill restart everytime i use it
i dont want it to keep auto attacking if i just click once
basically, i want it to work like basic attack works in 99.9% of other games with action combat
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>>497264102
kill yourself
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>>497264204
>>497264330
Sani posted both of these.
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>>497264204
let's not start the namedrop faggotry already shall we?
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>beat some greatsword dagger nigger in a 1v1
>squat on him and tell him to sit

yeah this mmo is kino
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>>497262567
>the setting to auto move in range to attack
game got a lot better when I turned that off. idk why I enabled it in the first place.
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>>497264740
is gs/da meta or something? i just picked it because it's a kino aesthetic
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>>497260143
>player count
>osrs
look i luv osrs but lets stop pretending 70% of the playerbase isnt alts and bots jagex gets away with this way too much
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>>497264438
it's not an action combat game.
the action combat camera functions just the way I want it to. right click to toggle locked camera and character movement. something I wanted in wow years ago.
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>>497264848
its one of the best classes, only behind SNS/GS and SNS/Wand
it shits on bow/dagger which I am, but gets shit on by staff/dagger
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>>497264996
a pretty game like this wasted on tab target shit and zoomed out so far you can't see any details is very ironic
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>>497264425
yes it's on /vm/ or something and gets like 2 posts a day. just check steamdb for player numbers and know it still has a botting problem.
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>>497261298
this is why sage is the best healer
>sage
chad telepath shields frens BEFORE damage, heals them after anyways just because
>whm
absolutely gay as fuck probably the only class in the entire game I never played
>astro
you need to be autistic
>others
can't even remember them if they exist
wish the game was fun cuz the classes r comfy
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How do you dodge the big half arena slowdown oneshot attack vs the eye boss in tower?
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so when are they scrapping this animorphs system and letting me fly/run/swim with my actual character
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Finally hit 50, which contracts should I be prioritizing?
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>>497265339
you forgot scholar
>nigga with a book and a bitch ass fairy

>>497265486
the ones that give pouches, followed by red or blue stones.
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>>497265154
it's a large scale pvp game. not whatever erp shit you want.
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>>497264926
>bots
>in leagues
Dumb nigger
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>>497239093
Yeah, I've already played for 30 hours though so I don't really want to move to NA.
I'm just going to play dragon nest with /vm/ instead.
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>>497265660
>not whatever erp shit you want.
what the fuck is wrong with your brain
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>>497265486
>>497247575
>https://youtu.be/ggZVV3_qZU8?si=RXC1FQOu_yxiqh4p
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>>497265743
It only took me 9 hours to get back to 50, it's not too bad honestly.
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>>497265717
I was talking about the player count in general mr autist
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>>497265660
>the tranny has erp on his mind 24/7
i would say this is sad but it's to be expected from this website now
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>>497265743
>dragon nest
Wait do we have EU servers of Dragon Nest?
Please tell me more.
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>>497265905
And I was talking about player count during leagues, retard.
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so if I'm a bow/staff default build, obviously I want a dagger for off-spec, but what's the difference between staff/dagger and bow/dagger?
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>>497266253
bow dagger is better for small scale/single target, bow staff for large scale/aoe
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>>497266253
staff/dagger can kill palandins, bow/dagger can't
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>>497266381
what about gs/dagger? can either of them kill that?
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EVERY TIME you have a healer AND a SNS/WAND """TANKER""" in your party you can be SURE you will not EVER get healed and will DIE
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Is this bugged? I have tried multiple times purchasing 1x leaf from a sundries merchant and it never gets credit.
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>>497265995
They're going to play a private server starting today, go check the mmodventure thread on vm
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>>497266686
you need to buy 50.
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So EU is just dead here?
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FUCKING SNS/WAND THEN TOOK MY FLOWER LMAO
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>>497266979
they just cant get organized enough and pick a server with no french
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THE CHARACTER DOES LITERALLY NOTHING IN PVE AND STILL RUINS IT FOR EVERYONE
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>>497267160
even if we did there's just not that many people, I strongly suggest anyone playing EU to go to NA if you care about playing the game slightly longer term, with a vg guild anyway. if you don't mind joining another guild it's fine.
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>>497267528
>playing with mutts
don't do this, trust me
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Wait so how do gear drops work? If you get a purple drop you don't actually get to keep it, it goes to the guild?
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>>497268270
depends how the guild set it up, and it's only for guild content and scheduled content, dungeons, abyss etc is your own.
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>>497230876
Who's dumb fucking idea was the retarded shapeshifting as something EVERYONE does, like I want to watch some shitty looking animal run around during 90% of my travel?

Also who designed the shitty ass combat and class system?

Why is the character creator so fucking bad and lacking basic ass options to the point that it's baffling?

Why is the naming system designed by literal retards where only one person can have a particular name across THE ENTIRE GAME so literally everything is taken day 1?

Why is anyone even playing this when it's blatantly obvious that it has no staying power with how horribly designed everything is?
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>>497268409
Well that's retarded. You're saying I could get a weapon from a world boss but then one of the guild lead's cocksuckers could get it instead?
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>>497268545
>why
no other options, this isn't the 2000s anymore where you can move onto another random mmo if it's shit.
>inb4 you can play wow or ff14
yeah sure lmao
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>>497268716
WoW, FFXIV, BDO, and likely other games I'm not even thinking of right now are all better than this trash

Fuck, play something in a different genre even if you don't like this, playing this shit is just illogical
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>>497268567
check how the guild looting is set and you can leave the guild. any member can see the options
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either this game is shit or i just dont get it
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>>497230876
>Lottie
>Character Creation Locked
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>>497268830
>BDO
lmao
holy shit how can people say this trash? I can understand wow and ffxiv but BDO is the worst garbage you can find on the mmo market
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>>497268830
better sure but if you've already played them there's no more enjoyment to be had, sometimes you just need something new.
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>>497268840
>Vidya has it set to "To Guild"
oh boy the drama is gonna be spicy.
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>>497269030
And yet it's still way better than this game, crazy isn't it

>>497269064
Eating shit is something new, are you going to do that?
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>>497269098
It literally isn't but sure I agree TNL isn't that good of a game however
BDO has garbage system where your entire gear can poof and you'll lose days and months of progress
none of that trash exists in TNL
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how the fuck do I get the books on top of the buildings in manawastes?
the event is going on and they don't shoot me high enough into the air to fly on top of them.
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>>497269323
It literally is
>your entire gear can poof and you'll lose days and months of progress
Maybe if you're a retard who doesn't know how to enhance or doesn't just buy your gear

>none of that trash exists in TNL
Yeah, sure, but everything else about the game is trash so at what cost?
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>>497269098
I will play any new mmo slop for at least a week so yes.
I don't plan on continuing this game but it's fine for a short time.
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>>497269451
>die
>crystals break
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>>497269451
the fact that there's no rng to gear makes it more of a polished shit compared to bdo and lost ark
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>>497269079
and what do you suggest? it only affects guild content where guild members participate
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this game is GOOD and despite catching MASSIVE STREAMER HATE from ASSMORONGOLD it still the 4th MOST played game on steam right NOW
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>>497269451
>just buy your gear you need 500 billions of currency for which will take you months of running in circles and grinding mobs
yea
fantastic game
I won't deny bdo has fantastic combat but that's as far as it gets
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>>497269779
>it takes time to get gear in a grind based MMORPG
YOU DON'T SAY?
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>>497266828
Thanks, that worked. Why the fk don't they say that.
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this game will add coomskins eventually BDOchud don't worry, you can play it now
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My guild system is set "to guild" and the guild leader first asks if the person who got it wants it, if not then he auctions it in guild and shares the profit with everyone. Why is it even set to guild if the person who got it can ask for it every single time? I only see myself not asking for it if the gear is blue and has a bad trait
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>>497269658
The good one that allows people to keep their drops, at least for the first few weeks of the game. Getting a good drop then having it taken from you this early in on when you don't even know who's going to stick around will feel like fucking shit. It's not a tryhard guild, let people have fun.
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>>497269875
>HAHA I GOT YOU
>THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE GAME IS TO RUN IN CIRCLES FOR MONTHS AND YEARS!!
yes
good game
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>4chan loot council
yeah this is gonna be funny
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>>497270076
Why the fuck would he not just put it so that the guy that got the drop got 5min to claim it?
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>y-yeah you Euros should totally come to NA and join m- I mean our guild!
>yes I the guild leader get to decide who gets what gear even if you drop it why do you ask?
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>the blue accessory sets from the codex rewards don't have any traits on them
so these sets are a meme, right?
or since I'm not investing into green traits, is it still worth using them?
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>>497270273
Is that an option? Yeah I wonder why
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Any down sides to just upgrade any blue/purple gear you find and then transfer when you get a piece of gear with better stats/traits? I'm tired of running around with green gear and nothing to waste my materials on
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>Evasion - reduce chance to be hit
>Endurance - reduce chance to be hit for more damage
Evasion is just far superior in every scenario? and Endurance is more of a secondary stat?
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>>497270878
Evasion be completely negated with enough Hit
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>>497270235
>>497270473
stay in your containment continent, retard
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>>497271082
Endurance is also negated with crit.
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>>497270878
pvegods can ignore these stupid ass stats that just make the PvP entirely rng whether or not the person you're fighting is built to counter you.
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pettan buds let me in thr guild
its ya boy Gille
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https://youtu.be/GoiCwjut2sc
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>>497269451
BDO is only """"""""""good"""""""""" because the devs give out free PEN gear and horses every so often in a desperate attempt to keep people playing their dogshit. You're comparing that to a game that literally just came out in the West a week ago. There is nothing redeeming about BDO anymore besides that the characters look better. Enjoy running around with all the cringe pop-in effects, unoptimized client that turns even modern PCs into a furnace all while you mindlessly grind only to gain 1% exp and no drops.
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>>497271398
Guild leader is off.
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claimed some purple boxes in the mail but i cant see them in my inventory help
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>>497269079
I haven't seen anyone say they care honestly I'm sure theres a couple people but no one said anything
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>>497271451
what kind of gay ass font is that?
your parents are ashamed they raised a tranny.
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I'm surprised the game is above 300k players today
I thought for sure after yesterday's 280k the numbers would only drop
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>>497271681
set a password so people dont have to wait to be approved
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>>497271362
>pve player in a pvp game
incredible.
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>>497271690
Likely because there aren't enough people running content for it to really matter yet
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why would I play staff/dagger instead of bow/staff?
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>>497271757
give it 1 month.
keep in mind the bots are fully ramping up, lost ark had the same thing where it looked like the game was sustaining but real players were just being replaced by bots
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>>497270235
There is no loot council you retard it's just set to bid
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>>497271451
good for him tho i am biased since i like the guy.
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>>497271696
some variant of YD Summer i think hmm
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>no parties on party board
>20 minutes in queue
>still no pop
I fell for the tank meme and now I can't play with anyone...
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how long does it take to finish the checklist at max level per day? I can only play up to 2 hours a day.
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>>497272269
Healer here. I have no problems queuing.
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>>497272269
DPS here, just solo it lol
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>>497272269
trick is to sign as both tank and dps
just swap out your kit for full dps skills
nobody notices
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>>497272352
what is the checklist
2h a day you can prolly make some comfy progress but obviously its going to take awhile
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>>497272269
Let me pull your hair and fuck the shit out of you
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>>497272352
that's fine. things also accumulate if you miss something so you can do a big Gamer sesh every few days.
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>>497272352
probably like 30 mins to an hour but realistically longer until people start being geared enough to steamroll dungeons
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>>497271886
bow/staff sucks ass at small scale pvp but wrecks at large scale

staff/dagger is way better at small scale and is whatever at large scale
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so uhhh how do guilds become hostile to each other, is it like black desert where guilds can just declare war against you and kill you in the open world?
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>>497271886
dagger is a pvp weapon.
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will our guild ever engage in large scale or is that only for the sweaty guilds
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>>497271915
in lost ark you could see the bots on the charts because there were no dips
that's not the case in this game (yet)
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The lag on EU is insane.
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>>497273334
which guild?
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>6 hour maintenance Again
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>>497272958
>like black desert
ahh good memories thanks for reminding me
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>maintenance
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>>497273420
na
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>>497269586
Why are you dying?

>>497269628
Loot drops are also RNG, I don't know why people think this is different because it's not

>>497269779
Okay but I'd rather do that in a game with good combat and character creation than in a game with shit combat and shit character creation where your character turns into a retarded looking animal for the majority of your travel time

>>497271680
The free PEN gear was bad though, no free PEN gear but not raising gear ceiling constantly like they have been would've been better. What was good about BDO before was the lack of vertical power creep over time. It used to be more stable and when you got BiS it had more value.

I don't even like BDO much anymore but it's still better than this dogshit game

I don't know why you fags are defending T&L and acting like I'm some BDO fan when I'm not. I shit on that game all the time outside of this place because of the stupid ass decisions they've been making and I haven't grinded in it in probably a year now but it's still better than this piece of shit.

>unoptimized client that turns even modern PCs into a furnace
Bro no, your PC is not "modern" if you think this. I'm playing on a budget PC from about 6 months ago now and it has no issues running the game while also running other games at the same time.
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Yup, fuck Amazon.
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>>497273447
do you know the answer to my question tho? asking because apparently my guild is at war but they are all a bunch of pussies who don't do anything while the hostile guild is literally everywhere and always playing together in groups of like 10+. think i'm gonna leave my guild and join one that actually plays
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>>497271915
this is what a botted game looks like
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>6 hours maintance
>world server crashes midway new wboss fight..
>1.5k queue
Kek..
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another unannounced 5hr maintenance for 15kb hotfix lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo
nice fucking game
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>>497273678
I don't, sorry but I think no is the answer
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>>497273765
>>497273807
I'm still online though, we're getting another maintenance?
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holy shit guild just got an archboss drop and guild master took it for himself
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gonna watch one anime and if servers arent up when im back im uninstalling
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>>497273947
so is my friend. I logged off a bit ago so i dunno but ur right its a confusing mixed MESAGE YOU FAGGOTS FUCKING EXPLAIN
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>>497272357
I should have played healer. That was my second choice...
>>497272451
That would work but it feels so gross. I just wanna actually tank and not be some second class DPS...
>>497272517
Huh?
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death's abyss is fucking impossible in pugs, especially since everyone is undergeared
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sooo uhh which setver is pettan moving to again?
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>nobody using the photo mode
i thought 4chan was supposed to be a bunch of avatarfags
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>>497273765
this guy is saying 6 hr maint but then it crashed
>>497273661
>>497273640
>>497273492
>>497273423
these guys are saying maintence now or announced
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>>497274260
what i was meant to say is that we had 6h maintance today and at first chance new wboss is possible to enage the server shits itself.
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>>497272505
>>497272584
>>497272610
Alright thanks. I'm level 23 and I didn't want to spend an entire evening at max level everyday to not be entirely useless doing content
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>>497274109
>I just wanna actually tank and not be some second class DPS...
sadly it's the easiest way to get into a group for certain dungeons
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>>497274252
Character customization sucks so what is there to avatarfag?

If you want avatarfagging FFXIV is the game to go to. Deep photo mode with a lot of options, tons of dynamic emotes, and mod tools so elaborate that I'm surprised they even exist in the way they do
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>>497274252
all the avatarfagging and dramaposting is in the discord
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>>497274252
I use it i just dont post them cuz i have shit settings and 4chan 4mb limit is aids jpg enabling garbage
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>>497274404
XIV is literally just a bunch of model rips from second life
just go play second life at that point. The "gameplay" is about the same
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>>497274218
Adriana
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I hope Amazon will quickly pump out content for the game because it's lacking outside PvP so much
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>>497274363
don't worry pal i feel like I'm the only one who knew what you meant but the other posts were confusing of course
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>>497274404
too bad yoship has gone full retard wuk lament mode because he's pretty based for allowing mods as long as you dont talk about it in game or show it on streams
I also think part of that decision is he knows it keeps people around and another other part is they couldn't do shit about it if they tried
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>>497274528
They aren't ripping things from Second Life though because if they were it would look a lot better than it does

I agree though that you're better off just going to Second Life for those things for the most part

>>497274656
>Amazon
You mean the company that's largely responsible for making games shitty?
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>>497274656
there's already a whole new continent in KR, content is coming
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>>497274394
wait you picked the white pants too i thought i picked wrong and swapped them fuccccccccccck
BRICKED
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>>497274394
does this count?
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>>497275000
I picked all leather because ranged, magic eva is the build
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>>497275024
i need that....
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>>497274656
>Amazon
Amazon ain't got nothing to do with content, NC is the one you should be looking at and what's happening in Korea. Amazon might push them depending how popular its in NA/EU.
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>>497275024
i really hope that rolled a dogshit trait
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>>497275218
undead damage 5
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my lucent got wiped?
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>>497275392
it's just a bug, it'll show back up
it happened to me earlier.
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>>497231141
because you're retarded
the game is shit
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>>497274109
>Huh?
I want to pound you from behind while giving you a big bear hug.
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>>497275425
this game is working on my nerves ngl
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EU frens, come to Zenith!
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>had an awesome day
>went to a wedding
>had German roasted duck with red cabbage and orange gravy for dinner
>whole family sound asleep
>can game for another 4 hours uninterrupted
World may be going to shit but I'm having the best weekend in maybe a year
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>>497275757
glad u had a nice day anon
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This game is as close to oldschool MMOs as you can get right now and zoomzooms fucking HATE that

camping your spot with your group / alliance in open dungeons is kino as fuck
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Is it just me or is it a pain in the ass to target enemies in this game?
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>>497275651
>EU frens, come to Zenith!
>EU frens, come to Adrianna
This is the exact reason why i don't want to move from Benny. You faggots will pick new server every few days..
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>>497275651
Shill me on it
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>>497275847
>conflict zone the other night
>see a group of 5 people standing around
>run from behind a wall and kill 3 of them before they even react
lol zoomers r fukt
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>>497275847
the open world dungeons are very nice and it's the same thing AoC is going with
I just wish the game didn't have all the menu claiming shit and a fuckton of material trading/swapping/crafting
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>terrific trio of carmine forest
>67.2% of players have this achievement
What kind of magic player retention is this? That's like at least level 20
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>>497275928
English Speaking
Populated but no steamer e-celeb server
Fun
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>>497272269
>>497274109
me on top
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>>497276132
zoomers literally can't play the game
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>>497276312
Is there a guild? Do you have login queues?
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>>497276515
No log in queues and no guild for now
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>>497232130
game felt like shit until i hit lv50 and started messing around with the skills more, figuring out what i want and what specializations work for me. feels pretty comfy now
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>got my healer on 1900 CP, notice party board is full of NEED TANK
>thinking of making a new character GS/SNB

is it good to have alts even in this game, was there even a bank or something like that
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>chillan in kastleton dueling people
>queuing some ranked arena
>occasionally doing a world event
>go farm some open dungeons with a few friends when they hop on
NOOOO THIS GAME HAS LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO IF I DONT GET REWARDED WITH TANGIBLE GOODS FOR MY TIME WHAT AM I PLAYING FOOOR!?
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>>497269658
? doesn't it affect also dungeon drops which means if i do dungeons with randos guild leader can still cuck me if i am not in his inner circle clique
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>>497276829
no it's only open world bosses and it gets auctioned between whoever participated

as long as you are participating with the guild you will constantly be building up lucent and getting gear for relatively cheap
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>>497276647
you can do dailies on both characters and lucent is shared on both, so you can have an alt get dungeon drops to sell and then use the lucent on your main
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eucucks can't into leadership just pick ONE server immediately (a new one not another full server you mongoloids) and move all there tonight
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lost ark ignite servers will tank this garbage
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These crowds are nuts. I don't even have a queue on my server and I'm sure Kastleton is even bigger.
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>>497276940
fuck i thought it was every fucking drop because my guild set it to rare+
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>>497277140
>moving to a dead server
retard
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Purelight Tower is just Ivory Tower over Enchanted Valley
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>>497277202
LMAO good one
lost ark can barely get 15k players
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Is the game rubberbanding because of bad collision detection, or is it serverlag? Or is it both?
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>>497274404
the game with 4 faces 3 of which suck so everyone looks the same and NEEDs mods to differentiate themselves?
yeah nah, it's a poor game with an obsessive community that tries to fix it but only makes it worse with their modbeasts that put PSO2 players to shame.
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ok i finished watching dandandan
server up?
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>>497277919
it was down for like a minute anon
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>>497277981
goodass anime anyways
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bros
how do I get enough motivation to login and do stuff?
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>>497277140
>forcing a server transfer
>3 days pass
>lets move to another server
i hate faggots like you.
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>>497278886
wanna see my char progress
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There's so many timed events I don't know which one I should be doing, highest level? What about peace/guild/dominion, can I do two events in that time?
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i cant even think of a name how is everything taken in 1 week
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>>497279143
names are unique across every region and server so
even my random names were taken
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everyone bully this runegamer
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>>497255228
i wish it had a bit more customization options desu.
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>>497255228
you can make some good male chars but female options SUCK
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>>497277789
It's funny because when I was first reading your post I thought you were describing Throne and Liberty
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>>497255228
It's trash
>somewhere between bdo
It doesn't even have half the options for face sliders as BDO, and the body sliders are laughably bad on top of not even being able to hide your armor in the character creation screen to get a better idea of what they fuck they're doing to the actual body.

The sliders themselves barely do anything either, you can move them around just for the sake of moving them and your chosen face will still look almost exactly the same even when you push the sliders as far as possible
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>>497256038
soulless human NPC behaviour
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>>497278886
Don't play this garbage ass game. Literally any other use of your time would be better.
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XIV refugee here, does T&L have a chance of being a game that people actually play as opposed to FOTM slop like Lost Ark? Also, how plappable is my toon?
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>>497280393
It has no chance
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>>497279143
Game is trash and there can only be one person with any specific name across the entire game

Game also dick rides paypig losers who gave them real money for early access by permanently plastering the day your character was created on the log in screen and not letting you play on "early access" servers where most of the community is

Anyone who invested into this dumpster fire before it came out is a moron

>>497280393
No it doesn't

Your character is alright but looks exactly the same as every other character with that face and it's the only decent face option so everyone looks like that
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>>497280393
it's going to be even more niche than LAO due to endgame being pvp focused
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>just got to 50 a few days ago
>server dead as fuck, mostly spanish and kr
>can't find any tank slots for deaths abyss since every tank runs it
its joewari bros...
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>>497280487
>game dickrides paypig losers
>game is so actively not p2w it's failing in korea
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>>497280717
I think the reason it's failing in Korea is because it's trash, bad character creation, bad combat, stupid ass decisions like animorphing for travel
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>tfw it's penis inspection day at the guild and you get kicked for being too big (4 inches)
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>>497279461
Cute niggress.
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>>497280889
we get bro, you're not white, we understand, they need back at ffxivg now
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>>497280578
sign as dps and just make another set of skills with dps skills
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>>497281184
Whiter than you ESL
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>>497280024
no you're just a self-inserting tranny that wants to goon instead of game.
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>>497280889
>>497280449
Well obviously all MMOs and online games suck, and most games suck too because life in general sucks, but are you telling me it's legitimately worse than Worlo Warslop and Fag Fantasy?

>>497280495
Isn't that good? PvE as an MMO concept is dead and has no longevity.
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>>497281348
I don't think shitty tab target pvp has any longevity either, it makes the game run at 10 fps and it's based on CCing people with no counterplay, tab target PvP is an absolute travesty.
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>>497281348
just try it yourself, it's free. if you're asking about a game, that means you dont have anything else to play right now
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>join learning party
>just happen to be standing exactly on the barrier
>get locked outside boss fight
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what buy ornat coin
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>>497281348
>>497271451
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the game runs at 60 in my 11 years old pc, you're just too poor
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>>497281501
There's a rumor going around that there's some other kind of game mode that doesn't use tab targeting. Something called "action mode". Was that removed from the game?
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>>497281787
it's in the game but it's not a real action mode, it's still tab target.
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>>497281787
>Something called "action mode". Was that removed from the game?
It wasn't but I think it sucks, I use classic mode.
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>vidya full
it's over...
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Given the vibes in this thread and on Steam reviews, are online games pretty much done for? Shooter games are over and done with and obviously T&L is widely despised.
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>>497281787
it's like holding right click in wow.
there's lots of targetting options but it's "tab target" at the core.
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>>497281340
>npc response too
jesus christ
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>>497282473
nah if anything lost ark and nw proved that mmos could gain millions of players still
it's just that there isn't a game to take the crown
maybe ashes of creation in 5+ years
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>>497282473
Someone has to beat the bots, that's it. Make the grinding worth it for workaholics not tell them they poured 3400 hours doing something a bot farm is selling for 15$ on twitter
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>asses of scamation
will be the 2032 goty
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>>497282423
>>vidya full
>it's over...

start a second guild, the game has alliances
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this game was suprisingly good, the only bad things about it is the EU servers situation which a a joke because amazon is a servers company and the maintenances which is a ramification of the servers problems, NA shouldn't ever have maintenances, our servers are working fine
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Every new MMO is fotmslop which is enjoyable for the first month.

Only a non-janky VR game can save us.
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>>497283437
>VR
lol
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>if you didn't waste money on le early access scam you missed two whole milestone pages
Fuck bezos.
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>>497283662
thankfully none of them can transfer to an Oct 1st launch server.
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>>497282756
ashes is doa.
the riot mmo could've been the only thing that would ever beat wow, but supposedly it's cancelled.
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>>497283791
I want my historian title.
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>>497283792
>ashes is doa.
absolutely not and you have to be dumb to think that
it's the most anticipated MMO since wildstar in the west
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>>497283792
it wasnt cancelled, they just restarted developmdnt after their original head left (and made his own studio to create a new mmo)
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>>497283662
>collectionist in current year
lol.
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>>497283792
>riot
>ever making a good game
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>get all these downtime points for free
>check what to spend them on in the shop
>buy 5 bounty bags
>get pic related
I guess I'm set till max level now
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>>497283904
every person who touches it, except lazy peon, shits on it constantly.
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>>497284037
I bought 15 bags and got a fucking purple robe (I'm melee).
At least it looks good and still shits on anything blue stat-wise.
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>>497284037
anon, your litograoh collection...
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>>497280393
gonna be niche since it's pvp focused, if thats good or bad depends if you like mass pvp fights
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Why the open dungeons empty?
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>>497284274
cant even craft blues to get that
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>>497284501
>Why the open dungeons empty?
It's night and people are afraid of pvp?
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>>497282423
>>497283145
Join the grindr goblins, they're our allies :^)
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>>497283904
>it's the most anticipated MMO since wildstar in the west
Is it really?
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kek
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>>497284037
>shop
Stop flexing faggot, shop ain't even working on EU
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>>497284549
No I mean, they are legit empty, no mobs, stones dont work.
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>>497284689
Well... I guess it's time for another maintenance
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>>497284613
He has a point, Benny is one big swamp..
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>>497280889
koreans don't like that you can't whale hard enough
they crave pay2win shit, it's like a status symbol over there
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g8uys there has to be a better way to get rid of abyssal contract tokens, killings these mobs is too slow
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>>497284842
you will enjoy the kino content or you will die lil zoomzoom
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>>497284987
I have fucking 17k coins, each mob eats like 5, it's too fucking much pve
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>>497285131
you don't have to burn them all in a day, just burn enough not to cap and you will always have something available to do.
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>drinking tea
>leveling fishing
Yup, I'm thinking it's comfytime
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>>497285269
man I wish the game had a bigger focus on professions
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pugs are legit worse than in early days of lost ark
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how do you even do these dungeons with randoms, i explained meticulously every fucking mechanic on the cave of destruction boss but 2 guys minimum wipe on the first mechanic no matter.
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>>497285586
Just do the level 20 dungeon over and over again even if you're level 50
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>>497285501
the fact that this game has no battle rez makes it more difficult since some retard is gonna get instakilled ALWAYS in pugs
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>>497285269
I fucking hate fishing in this game.
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What class if I want to be a (safe) high mobility glass cannon? I'm allergic to casting and helping my team. In LoL I mained LeBlanc/K6 if that helps.
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Kek, Malakar on Benny crashed for the second time..
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wow Harry Potter si kinda OP
but not OP enough
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>Single new wboss keeps crashing Benny server
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Is the Death's Abyss 50 boss supposed to take forever to kill or were my DPS on matchmake just complete dogshit?
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>>497286638
Can we just move out of this shithole already?
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>>497286130
staff dagger i guess
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NEED NEW SERVER FOR THE EU GUILD NOW
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>>497286703
Doubt it's Benny, imo they fuckedup Malakar. Regarding moving, sure, as soon as you guys organize and pick proper server.
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>>497286130
>>497286714
Yea I’m running staff/dagger. Insane damage, stealth, good mobility, good escapes, weak to melee

There is literally only 1 cast but you can spec it to be instant
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>>497286685
didnt do this dungeon but you can alwas assume dogshit DPS in this game
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>>497286685
they're a bit tanky but it shouldn't take that long
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What's a braindead build for third-worlders like me?
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>>497287060
bow/crossbow
at least you'll be useful in dungeons
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honeslty I like the game a lot but I know I won't be able to play it because of the amount of shit you have to do every day, it was the same with lost ark, I quit because I didn't want to do dailies taht took 4 hours each on 3 characters, this game you have to do contracts 5 hours a week, dungeons 5 hours a week and the abyssal farming probably takes 10 hours a week if you do them solo
I can't waste all that time
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and they had the tool taht would fix the abyssal farming, it was the auto hunting but REDDITORS cried so much they removed it, they sure love to click stupid zombies 10 hours a week
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This game would be so much more fun if it allowed you to swap specs/weapons more freely and without this much punishment.
These queue issues are a literal design problem. If I could swap to a DPS or Healer to run a dungeon to get gear for my Tank it would literally solve itself.
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>>497287202
>solo abyssal farming
just join a fucking group bro
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>>497287202
>I don't like the game because I have to play it
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>>497287202
contracts take like 10 minutes
dungeons depends on how retarded the playerbase is and you can stack them if you dont want to do them
abyssal farming you can just do a few hours a week to avoid overcapping or just let them overcap and be suboptimal

or just you know, don't play a game if you don't want to actually do the content in the game
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>>497288014
or, I could complain, and everyone else also could complain and they would make dailies and weeklies less cumbersome
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Can I hit the world boss once and chill by the side or is there le epic contribution drop rate?
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>>497288014
>contracts take like 10 minutes
take longer for me since im scared to pull more than 2 mobs at a time
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i dont understand the combat in this jankass game
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>>497288448
then just save them. you can accumulate them for 5 day and receive all rewards
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>>497286783
´Zenith
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So how do you feel about your dps remaining in the 4 digits ballpark regardless of upgrades?
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>>497284626
>ain't even working on EU
Nigga I AM eu
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>>497288448
you can also just get contracts that don't require any fighting if you want to speedrun them
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Why do so many foods give EXP bonus when it's nearly useless? You get max level by doing quests and in a few hours if you rush.
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Another day at the guild base, guild master says I have to shave my legs and plug my bussy for special service later, my maid outfit is so soft and comfy and high quality!!! Oops gotta go, master wants a cup of my feminizing girl pee!
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>>497290052
shut up sani
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>>497290052
dont put words on my mouth, kitaposter
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>>497290052
god youre gay sani
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>>497289175
I like it, smaller numbers are easier on the eyes.
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Do you lose guild progress for the weekly mission if you leave your guild?
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>>497289175
better than going into millions like lost ark and they give billions of HP to raid bosses with 300 health bars
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>you can straight up increase your inv and storage slots with sollant before they start demanding you pay up
pretty generous gooks I'd say. really helps that this game doesn't bog down your inventory with irrelevant shit every 30 minutes
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>>497290875
dunno but i do know there is a cooldown on joining new guilds, i think 3 days
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>>497287202
lmao the daily shit is tame compared to lost alt
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>join up for a tyrant's isle clear
>see this

what the fuck is wrong with people?
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>want to spend my abyssal tokens
>go to crypt to grind
>more players than mobs there
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>>497291696
enjoy levels 1 and 2, as soon the doors open for 3 and onwards you will get your shit pushed in.
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What's stopping me from upgrading a green weapon, putting the levels onto a blue weapon and then putting it onto a purple one to save on mats?
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>>497292083
nothing
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What's Vidya's prime time? I live in est but I play really late.
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>>497292083
>what's stopping me from doing what the game intends me to do?
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can you get good gear from pvp in this game, i fucking hate simon says bosses and pve in general.
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>>497292890
no pve is the gearing minigame to pvp
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>>497292938
thats sad to hear, well it is what is is then.
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realistically how long will this game last? it's not going to be as fun when it's down to 20k players
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Any day now...
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>>497293209
separating loot for classes in dungeons is one of the single dumbest shit they've done in the game
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>>497293209
>>497293414
yeah it was clear that the dungeon that doesnt drop any shit for tanks get no tanks in it, how retarded are the devs
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>>497293209
>alt-tab
>got kicked out of the queue because game icon doesn't flash in toolbar when the party is found
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>>497293414
>>497293638
You literally HAVE to do every dungeon to craft a BIS ring and pity weapons
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>16gb ram anon here
I looked at what's available for me to upgrade to, and looks like the market doesn't carry the nice Samsung b die stuff anymore, it's all dried up
So now I would need to go from
>16gb 3200 cl14 b die
To
>32gb 3200 cl16 or 3600 cl18 hynix or something else
This hurts my soul a little bit, am I overreacting and I should just do it anyway?
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>>497289175
I much prefer games that keep numbers relatively small instead of needlessly bloating them.
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>>497289175
much better than slop like lost ark where you do a trillion dps and the boss has 1000 health bars to make it seem not shit
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>>497293414
People don't realize that spamming one dungeon isn't the play when you can craft that shit from running every dungeon
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Any anons playing on EU? Playing with retards on Karnix is actually miserable. The boss takes forever to kill and people with 6k HP miss 1 Q and they just get wiped off the face of the earth.
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>>497290257
>>497290585
literally who

>>497293878
don't bother and just upgrade your system to ddr5 eventually
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>>497292083
that is exactly the intended method. you never waste materials, you level up what you currently have and then transfer it into better gear
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>cant see anyone's chat and cant type
did i get chat banned or something
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Game is a mobile port gookslop, but would play with Pettan if they are the same guys from Tera.
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So when are we moving to kastleton/chernobog
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You have to focus on 2 weapons for a build, but is it a brick to focus on 3 so I can enjoy being both a tank and healer for ultimate flexibility? That is, equally focus on SNS, wand, and bow all together? Or conversely since I like being a caster more, could I split focus on bow/staff/wand and then play with 3 weapon combos that way? Is that a brick move?
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>>497292307
we have pretty much people active through the day. a few through the night. but the intended peak time for scheduling will be afternoon/evening
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>>497294279
terafags dont play mmos anymore...
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>>497294343
it's not a brick it will just take you longer to max
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>>497294279
Anon terafags are all registered sex offenders now they can't be within 100 meters of a computer.
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>>497294372
>>497294498
Hi, I'm a terafag. AMA.
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The weapon system in this game is so laughably shitty and retarded I can't believe anyone plays this trash

>can't be a pure damage dealer caster, have to be half-healer or have some stupid as fuck combo like caster and daggers or caster and fucking crossbows
>can't be a pure greatsword user for guts mode, have to substitute some other faggy shit, yes guts has an arm cannon but it's not the same and he doesn't even use it that often
>can't be a paladin unless like you taking out some faggy tome and waving around a gay little wand like harry potter
>everything is the most generic shit possible, the magic is absolutely soulless and lacks any flavor or identity
>game goes out of it's way to make switching weapons absolutely miserable when the opposite should be the case
>every "class" is beyond generic and soulless with some combinations, especially meta ones, being stupid as fuck conceptually

Why the fuck is anyone playing this?

It's so fucking soulless in every regard I can't wrap my mind around why there's even a thread for it or why anyone is playing the game at all

Also who's the dumbfuck at Amazon who keeps forcing these shitty weapon systems into MMOs
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>>497294559
how many hours of elin ERP have you participated in?
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>>497294747
Also FUCK anyone calling this piece of shit Lineage 3, it's a fucking insult to Lineage to even insinuate that and I'd beat the fucking snot out of anyone who does
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>>497294747
it's okay, not everyone is as autistic as you
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>>497294901
Over 600 hours. I even bought a buttplug for those sessions.
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i just finished a session and i'm already wanting to log back in...

this might actually be one i stick with longer than a couple days desu.
>>497281060
i'm an old bag of bones anon
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>>497294305
soon
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>>497294947
Funny because you'd have to be autistic to play or defend this garbage
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>>497294747
About 20 hours in I'm having a blast. It's not like they're charging you to play it. Getting locked into a weapon combo makes the game far more interesting to me it actually forces you to get help from other players
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>>497295095
if you're that autistic you can just use a single weapon it's fine man
nobody will want to take you to anything but you can just be your little guts snowflake OC in open world
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>>497295123
>having a blast
You're joking right? This is like the go to shitpost buzz word for shitty games

>>497295502
>autist going to the defense of another shitty game managed by a multi-billion dollar corporation
A tale as old as time
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>>497295602
You sitting in this thread whining about how you can't be guts (wow man how fucking original!) is proof enough of your autism.
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>>497294978
kinda gay
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>>497295672
>>497295502
No I actually wanted to be a paladin or a pure damage caster, but sweet strawman faggots. Keep choking down corporate cocks. Guts was just an example of why the weapon/class system in this game is trash but I can tell that since there's people defending it that there are retards who will gobble up any slop shat out in front of them.
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>>497295839
you can be a paladin with sns wand but go off queen
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>>497286685
never used matchmaking. only party finder.
avoid all "exp" or "know mechs" groups too.
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>nigga actually telling you to farm 20 shards from each dungeon for the wep instead of lucksacking the wep

holy shit
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>>497286685
if you didn't skip first teleport and go straight into scythes mechanic your dps was total dogshit at bare minimum
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man I miss older korean mmorpgs so much
why can't they just make them simple and fun any more
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My character I originally made on Vortex is basically bricked, Amitoi expeditions don't work in the slightest.

Do I just abandon it and play on Benny casually with vg bros? I was doing pretty well competitively but its been hardstuck for 5 days with no expeditions working so I'm hopelessly behind and can't really be arsed anymore. It's character-based too because I fully reinstalled the game from scratch and it's still screwed. Guild donations in turn become fucked, amitoi level too low, everything is just fucked.

I made a video to show amazon support but I imagine i'll just get stupid "reinstall game clear cache" type nigger advice that won't help me for hsit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7IL1bUvXJU

What weapons do I pick for someone who's now ONE ENTIRE WEEK behind?
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>>497296028
>do each dungeon 5 times
>lucksack one of your weapons
>craft the other
>have both weapons 1 week in
yeah its me
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>>497294747
first point was wrong so didn't read.
you're a retard.
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>>497296028
In 30 runs you'd be guaranteed to get the craft, but if you had spammed only one dungeon you'd have a 1/3 chance of having it.
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What's the combat like in this game?
I looked at the gameplay videos and thought it was like Black Desert, or is it more like WoW?
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what does shit mean am I just not allowed transfer to ANY other server
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>>497296317
tab target with some ground targeted skillshot moves
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>>497296317
gw2 probably closest?
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yeah, I can tell 100% these abyss dungeons were meant to be ran with auto hunting and you going to sleep while killing mobs
the abyssal points barely go down
killed mobs for hours and only spent 1k of them, it's too much pve
hope redditors don't like it as well and ncsoft fixes it
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>>497291352
nah not if you server swap, and my server is kinda gay so idk if i wanna stay here
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>>497296028
you're literally bricking yourself if you just spam one dungeon in hopes of a 5% drop

>>497296389
EA cant transfer to fresh until after all milestones catch up
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>close game to do something else
>come back and try to start game
>game fails to start
why can't they close the game properly?
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>>497296509
you're doing something wrong if it took you "hours" to go down 1k. are you actually single targeting shit down? are you not grouping?

i did shadowed crypt for an hour this morning and spent ~4k points and thats with 100 other people all competing for tags
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>>497296157
you rike your insta death simon says mechanics on every boss even in the first fucking dungeon in a game without any battle rez to carry atleast 1 bumbling retard along.
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crossbow/dagger sucks.
>do no damage without roll buff and both lightning on hit buffs
>can only kill more than 1 thing at a time once every 90 seconds
wtf.
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>>497296769
if you want a braindead MMO ffxiv is right next door
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>>497295927
Ah yes, the classic Paladin fantasy of taking out a gay little wand and waving it around like some kid in Harry Potter

T&L has such a great system instead of having actual classes

Oh wait, it's soulless garbage that clashes to an extreme degree
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>>497296974
this is what i was suspecting and why I didn't roll xbow/dagger. seems annoying like you need to have everything off cooldown then do your gay prebuff before your engage. you teleport in, spin and get some kills, then die. seems boring
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>>497297081
>autism
>reddit spacing
yeah im thinkin you gotta go back
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>>497297130
I'm trying to transition (fuck you) out of it but I'm trying very hard to be optimal about it too and not craft extra blue weapons.
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this is quite possibly the most braindamaged mmo community I have ever faced and I've been playing them since 2003. the sheer amount of asspulling autoattacking retards who can't press Q and make simple boss fights take 40 minutes of pulls to finish is astounding. this might make me quit purely because of how miserable it is dealing with these stupid faggots.
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>>497297438
>I'm trying to transition
Many such cases. Sad!
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>>497297025
>ffxiv isn't wipe or do the mechanics on every single boss
>MMOs in general are able to have meaningful combat and difficulty aside from these wipe or dance like the devs intended you to do like some monkeys being trained doing a trick
>this "PVP" mmo needs you to do these monkey training boring PVE encounters to be able to compete

this game made me realize again why MMOs fucking suck
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>>497294747
>have to substitute some other faggy shit
I honestly feel that. I wish the individual weapon kits were more fleshed out so you could just use one thing and be efficient at it if you want. as far as I can tell most builds use at least a few active skills from their offhand. It's not making me hate the game like you but I understand what you mean. I wouldn't mind if this game had branching class or weapon advancements that do exactly that and tbdesu I see it happening in the future if this game lives long enough
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is there any weapon that doesn't have 4+ buff skills to maintain?
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I really hope raidnigger devs don't run this game into the ground like they did with Lost Ark.
Worst boss content I've ever seen.
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>>497297783
>if a literal clinic diagnosed retard can clear it it's good
>if you have to have a room temp iq or higher to clear it it's bad

interesting
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>>497297578
i am curious how many of these bumbling retards are actually on console, crossplay was a mistake.
Wasted 5 hours on 8groups to finish a dungeon and am broken now since so much stupidity made me not want to play again.
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>arena PVP weeklies are wins and not match
fuck this nigger shit, 10 wins with retards is like pulling teeth
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just saw my first loot goblin, didn't know that was a thing in this game
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>>497297843
GS has 0 maintenance buffs, just one cooldown.
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>>497297912
lost ark having raids isn't the issue, it's altnigger devs that are the problem, making alts should never be efficient to encourage you to play one character but they impose daily limits and allow you to bypass it by making alts.
fuck even this game is like that if you're autistic enough.
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>>497297912
valtan was peak.
vykas and kakul were ok.
brelshaza and onwards were unforgiveable.
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>>497297843
bow/dagger, i only ever use the heals and stealth. i don't bother with poison/lightning shit because it requires too much setup for barely noticeable damage. idk about greatsword with other stuff though but probably very low maintenance
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is the auction house still fucked?
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>>497298026
The worst part is that Karnix attracts all the subhuman bow fags. I'm literally only playing it myself because I heal and the group healing on it is insane so it feels mandatory.
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>>497298026
how are you people getting such shitty groups?
wonder what the common factor is here.
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>>497298073
>>497298094
>you miss this obscure retarded quick mechanic overlapped by 5 other mechanics and brown diarrhea effects
>it's an instant wipe or you instantly die
>everybody rages at you
>kicked out
>you must watch videos for hours and memorize everything to progress at all
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>>497298280
again not the problem, nobody would care if they weren't in a fucking maze of alts that take up all their time and encourage them to shit on other people and gatekeep instead of being cool and helpful.
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>>497298073
they need to sell preset slots. that's my biggest incentive for making an alt right now.
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>>497298264
the common factor are consoletards that have unupgraded gear and never reply in chat.
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>>497298504
are you matchmaking? lmao.
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>>497298280
welcome to MMO combat, look up the mechanics beforehand in videos and do exactly like your dev masters intended you to dance.
I just wish you could gear in this game with pvp solely because i like the pvp
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>>497297578
it's worse in FFXIV you just can't really tell because of how fucking easy that game is
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how are you supposed to learn the dungeons if nobody wants to do them with noobs
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>>497298094
>valtan was peak.
HAHA BRO YOU MISTEP BY A NANOSECOND OR GET RUBBERBANDED AND GET KNOCKED INTO THE ABYSS
HAHA YOU DODGE ALL MY COMBOS BUT I SOMEHOW FART AND THIS INVISIBLE GUST SENDS YOU TO DEATH
>vykas
lmao at the typing bullshit and the fucking clone wing positions you can't even see from the side
pls kill four tentacles while dodging infinite bullet hell where ONE hit will charm you and cause wipe
>argos
nonsense pizza bullshit nobody ever figured out and having some silly zoom out and chat message coordination bullshit with the group split in two
>guardians
oh bro you just dodged 5 attacks in a row and it looks like you can finally cast your skill and attack me but I'm just going to spaz backwards midway through so you hit nothing

bosses are fucking dogshit in that game
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>>497298725
go to maxroll
look at dungeon guide
say yeah dude im experienced
beat fight
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>>497298643
does that shit even work, i am only using party board and even then most of the people are not listening, the only way is to find a guild and people to party with, otherwise its absolute shitshow atleast on EU
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>>497298725
You're supposed to play with friends.
You do have friends, right?
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>>497298750
>valtan
>one player's mistake doesn't wipe the party
>vykas
>one player's mistake doesn't wipe the party
>argos
>one player's mistake doesn't wipe the party
>guardians
>one player's mistake doesn't wipe the party
I like how you didn't comment on kakul either. unironic skill issue.
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>>497298875
i doubt people would but you can see how many have sold if you hover over it

if it has a god trait just sell the trait instead
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Just started playing, would like to tank, using greatsword and staff, am i dumb? also joined the server in the thread ^^
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>>497298875
I usually check sale history and current listings and similar listings.
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>>497298941
i haven't had internet friends since like 2021 and none of my irl friends play video games
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>>497299062
sns is the tank weapon

SNS/GS or SNS/Wand for tanking
SNS/GS gives the group more damage
SNS/Wand can theoretically solo heal the dungeon if people don't eat glue for fun
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are the friend requests broken?
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>>497298946
>I like how you didn't comment on kakul either
I quit that game years ago when it became more than apparent that you get nowhere without whaling with your weekly 6 hones at 3% success rate allowance and any half decent engravings costing tens of thousands of gold.
>one player's mistake doesn't wipe the party
Yes it does since you're no longer passing dps/stagger/counter/whatever check.
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>>497299124
Anon...
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>>497299062
>tank without the tank weapon
yes, you're dumb.
equip the Sword & Shield with the Greatsword.
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>>497298875
eh, heroic ones you can get from contract coins chest reward. imo not worth it since bis wand for healer etc is from cavern of destruction which is piss easy.
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>>497298998
>>497299109
Trait is shit sadly, okay I won't risk it, none being sold so I can't check
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What kinda rewards do they plan on putting in the arena
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game keeps randomly toggling action camera and classic camera mode.
anybody else having this issue?
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>>497299408
right now you can get purple bracelets from the arena vendor for 9 tokens which can either help gear you out or upgrade your traits on your real bracelet

you can also just buy gamble bags with them
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>>497299283
>>497299160
but the sword and shield skills look boring asf, one of them just seems to be a buff which does nothing and then the rest are piss in solo :( atleast at my level.

Also can I not tank with greatsword with the aoes and stuff? To provoke mobs etc
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>>497299507
are you pressing V? it's the default keybind to toggle between them
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>main character has amitoi expeditions disabled, even amazon doesn't know how to fix it in a ticket
>can't say fuck it, reroll & delete character because an item is stuck unclaimable in storage chest
i'm honestly this close to just abandoning the game entirely, shame about the 20€ i put in but what a fucking disaster, it's just bug after bug after bug
and I made the mistake of rolling with a very cliquey antisocial guild that hasn't done me any favors desu
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>>497299613
SNS has all the baked in threat
SNS/GS uses a lot of the heavy hitting greatsword skills anyways to tank
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>>497299518
they do plan on having seasonal exclusive cosmetics though right? would be cool to see some guy running around and you know he was top 10 or whatever in season whatever years later just by looking at his armor or his morphs and thinking "wow that's cool"
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>starting to see the shitstains covered up by a coat of paint in this "game"
kekaroo
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>>497299910
idk, there are titles for preseason
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>>497299843
I guess i might change my mind in later game when i have more skills, probs not that relevant at low level.
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>>497298226
my question is why da fuq does a bow give you healing powers? it should be wand and staff. and we need another additional weapon for magical powers
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>>497300146
because bards are a thing and typically a ranger or hunter would know a lot about field survival and first aid or they'd die to any random inconvenience
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questlog is fucking unusable when every time you search a build its 500 fucking niggers cloning other builds

NIGGERFUCKER 1000 (CLONE)(CLONE)(CLONE)(CLONE) 100 times
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Did we decide on a new server for EU?
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>>497297172
>been here since 2006
>fags still try to tell me to go to reddit
Always makes me laugh
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>>497296248
It's objectively true, can't believe this game already has cultists
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>>497300945
>>497300945
new
>>497300945
>>497300945
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>>497300761
don't make me tap the sign
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guild raid in 30



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