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>About
Throne and Liberty is a PC and console MMORPG offering a mix of tab target and action combat with a shared emphasis on both PvP and PvE. The game features a seamless open world, adaptive weather systems, and a shapeshifting mechanic that lets players transform into animals for exploration and combat strategy. The game uses a free-to-play model with various microtransactions; cosmetics, convenience items, battle passes, and more. The Western publisher, AWS, claims to be aiming to avoid pay-to-win mechanics while enhancing player customization, choice, and experience.

>Build sites
https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides
https://metabattle.com/tl/TL_Builds
https://throneandliberty.gameslantern.com/builds
>All items and information
https://tldb.info/

>Which server are we playing on?
NA East, Lottie; Guild vidya
password 69420
EU, Benny; Guild Pettan

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>>497300945
Game is trash, don't play it, seriously. It's painfully obvious from the beginning how bad it is.
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>>497300945
Game is great, just play it, seriously. It's painfully obvious from the beginning how good it is.
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Game is mid, just play it, seriously. It's painfully obvious from the beginning how good it is.
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I think I'd have more fun playing the game if I had a BF on Lottie...
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>>497301050
i hate to be a negative nancy but yeah, avoid it at all costs.
It would honestly take too long to list all my complaints but basically it's a mobile game where they took out the autobattler but kept all the cancer. It's chore simulator without the dopamine from actually completing your chores.
Also it is bugged to absolute high heaven, haven't met anyone who didn't get some shitty bug that ruined their character progress.
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I kind of want to switch to a tankchad now that I'm at 50
Am I bricking myself if I switch now? I don't really have any gear yet.
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NCSOFT won
I don't know how they did it, but despite everyone saying TL would flop, despite the literal game breaking server bugs from day 1, despite the censorship from scamazon, they still won
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>>497301678
lol relax it'll hit 10k by next month
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>>497301192
i hate to be a positive perry but yeah, play it at all costs.
it would honestly take too long to list all my compliments but basically it's an oldschool mmo where they took out the handholding but kept all the kino. it's a dopamine simulator without all the boredom from having to do chores.
Also it's nearly bug free, haven't met anyone who had some kind of gamebreaking bug that stopped their character progress.
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>>497301678
lol relax it'll hit 1m by next month
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>NA got a full guild
>EU is dead
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>>497302117
we tried to tell you just to play on NAE
you could have been in a multi autism alliance but now you're suffering
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>>497302117
this always happens
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>>497301346
i hate to be a mid marty but yeah, play it whenever or however you'd like
it would honestly take too long to list all my midness but basically it's a decent mmo where they took out the gay shit but kept all the alright stuff. It's a chill simulator without all the gayness of dealing with gaywads and the shit they enjoy like chores or p2w.
Also it's a little buggy with the movement, haven't met anyone who hasn't just dropped out of the air while in the flying morph as a slight inconvenience.
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test
if this works, lottie guild raid at 7pm est (20ish min from now)
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why is sns/gs rated higher than sns/wand if sns/wand has heals and never dies?
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>>497302117
We told you several times, every EU player with a brain rolls on NAE for MMOs because EU always ends up dead and/or full of people who can't even communicate with each other due to how many languages are spoken.
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>>497301678
First MMO launch?
They always hit a million on steam charts then go sub-100k after a month. This game is more bricked than NW launch so I doubt it'll have longevity beyond 3 months. 30k by new years.
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>>497302209
>>497302362
>play with mutts
>nobody is online because timezone differences
>it's always just a bunch of /soc/ retards and discord drama
no thanks, always happens
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>>497302358
because tier list makers are fucking stupid
i regret sns/gs
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>>497302379
it won't with youtubers farming the new "I was wrong about TL" meta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoiCwjut2sc
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>>497302551
>i regret sns/gs
why? what's bad about it?
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>>497302358
because gs has literally 3-4 times the damage
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It's so obvious when trolls start camping threads
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>>497301678
Bots are being far more discreet this time. I recall lost ark peak off peak player counts were only 20% change during bot epidemic
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>>497301417
hi...
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>>497302358
because sns/wand only saves shitters and tanks who suck at mechanics or are playing with shitters who die in the first 5 minutes and now have to solo the boss. with sns/gs you're just as tanky if you or your group is not shit and you do dps levels of damage.
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impossible to design a waifu in the character creator this shit is trash
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this gear system kinda sucks bros
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>>497303087
what's wrong with it
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this gear system kinda fucks bros
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How do you guys have enough time to stay in the character creation without getting kicked? Still can't save and load your character appearance either.
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this gear system kinda alright bros
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>>497302450
Plenty of people are online at EU hours because of NEETs
You could also just make an EU guild and do stuff like guild raids at EU times while being allied with the NA guild
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why are tanks always massive dickheads
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lol, keep the eu trash off NA please, they can't do anything right.
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>>497303840
cause we're the main characters chud get over it
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>>497303724
>playing a low ping dependent PvP game with 200 ping
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>>497303954
a bunch of koreans are doing it what is your excuse
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>>497303889
very true, i've considered tanking and gitting gud just to get easier parties
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how are you guys leveling cooking? i can't get any ingredients to drop
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>>497301678
Just wait til they chop out bots and chinks.
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>>497304070
Why play on NA when I can play on EU?
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Tanks are the most replaceable role in this game. When the community finally realizes that, your time is up main character tanksissies
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>>497304296
get salt from amapipoi expeditions and cook all the other shit. grayclaw forest is a good way to get a bunch of meat
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This game needs icons for roles, why the fuck is everyone numbered from 1 to 6 that's so retarded
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How do I set a location to return to? (Pressing b)
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>>497303054
>you do dps levels of damage.
Does that mean I can queue dps with sns/gs?
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>>497305075
yes but why would you queue dps when everyone wants a tank
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>buy early access
>friend is already 20 levels ahead
>hits 50 within like a day because he grinded with no sleep
>abandons the server we're on to go play on launch servers
>figure I'll just wait a few days for server transfers to open up
>literally every server is locked and I'm stuck on a server full of spanish + germans
I'm going to just quit at this rate. Doing dungeons solo queue on matchmaking is making me want to fucking kill myself. Imagine an hour of wiping. I have literally spent 4 hours the past week doing Death's Abyss and these people REFUSE to press Q and just get one shot. Parties disband. I've cleared the dungeon once. I'm going to go insane. It's not even a hard dungeon. The average player is just THAT retarded.
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>>497304339
cause EU is a dead irrelevant region
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>>497305343
My last tank queue was over 40 minutes
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where are the training dummies in vienta village x.x
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>>497306140
Next to Sophia
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>>497305543
There's more players on EU than US playing this game... retard
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>>497306369
Yet you were just complaining that there was nobody on EU?
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>>497306503
Nobody from HERE
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>>497305375
you can level a fresh character in under 6 hours
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>>497305585
My last dps queue was over 41 minutes
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ended up switching from crowwbow+wand to crossbow+staff
the synergy with both weapon types using projectile based skills is just too goodto pass up

I am starting to feel pretty squishy though, just hit level 29 and starting to do group content

should I be pushing all my green gear to max level and start grinding up blue gear>?
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>>497306369
>russian and chinese bots
>"people"
okay man
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>>497307430
>crowwbow+wand
That sounds like the worst weapon combo in the game
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>>497307562
lol.
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>>497307562
eh the idea was to CC/debuff things with wand then blast thm down with the high single-target of crossbow

didn't work out all that well in the end, thankfully I hadn't done any leveling of the weapons before I switched
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Been mostly playing SnS+Wand bros, considering swapping to GS+SnS though because I feel like DPS is always lacking in dungeons. I'm still dogshit in terms of gear, what would be better for someone with no purples sitting around ~2000?
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>>497307702
>sns/wand god tier in both pvp and pve
as things should be
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Hope there's another maint tonight bros
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I can't wait for faguettes and their subhuman language to die out
total frenchoid death
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>>497307805
GS helps immensely with farm and kill, especially early on. Funnily enough dungeons are the place where i miss the end the most because with wand I should be able to solo these bosses
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Is thunde dagger good?
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what kind of gear should I have as a fresh 50?

fully traited greens? badly traited blues? can I jump into dungeons with greens?
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>>497308115
fucking how, wand has zdps
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>reach lvl 50
>suddenly get bored
fuck
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>>497308286
Sustain and single target sns dps is better than you think
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>>497308201
From story you should have blues and purple chest piece, just transfer the +6 to those blues and upgrade them to +9. I think you should have one blue weapon, get the other from lithograph book (there's a good ring called violent signet too)
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>>497310184
The +6 greens I meant
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>>497308286
>zdps
>constant dps from dots
>skill amp
>the massive fucking nuke that is explosion
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how do traits work?
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I am still not sure whether to go wand/bow or wand/staff as a healer.
The bow has more heals, but I'm not sure how necessary the heal over time spell is, given that the wand already has lot of healing. Is it overkill for future content? Who knows.
Staff is just convimenient and does more damage, makes doing contracts a whole lot easier. I'd rather fireball three enemies and kill them from burn/curse synergy compared to shooting mobs with an arrow with high cooldowns.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is bow healing actually necessary and should I just save myself the headache from doing contracts?
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>>497310784
>>497307702
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>>497310784
pve is a joke
play around pvp if you plan to pvp at all
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dagger+staff or dagger+bow for dueling and open world and arena?
going to staff+bow in groups.
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>>497302358
you dont need to heal if everyone else is dead
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>>497312294
dagger / staff shits on sns/gs which is the meta
dagger/bow is more fun (imo)
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The sheer amount of poorfag cope I've seen regarding this game is unreal, is this shit really that hard to run on a PC?
t. console pleb
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i for one am really loving xbow/daggers, glad i went with it

although it's harder to make it work in large scale pvp, especially later when dive bombing spin2win loses efficiency
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>>497311506
This doesn't help at all.
>>497311898
But which one is needed for pvp, staff or bow?
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>>497301559
what other mmos do you play?
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>>497312863
they're both the same tier
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>>497302117
i'm EU and the last thing i want is to guild up with a bunch of spergs from 4chan
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>>497312737
what about going against dagger+greatsword?
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>>497313153
should be about the same
greatsword fags stack melee and ranged defence
magic fucks them
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>>497312812
I despise crossbow dagger and I wish I would've switched before I got the blue weapon. you do 0 damage outside your buff cooldowns. it's everything that's wrong with retail wow.
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>>497307702
>staff/dagger B tier for PVE
don't care not changing
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>>497313320
idk i'm loving the hell out of it, both in pve and pvp, it really flows well in pve and has cool setups in pvp
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>>497313226
I will focus on purple staff first then.
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I've always joined NA servers despite not being from that region. I've been larping for years at this point.
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>>497313637
you're a real American in my book, brother
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>>497313637
I like typing in British English and seeing how long it takes for someone to realise I'm an impostor.
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>>497312885
Used to play FF11 before playing FF14, did several WoW expacs and once slaved away in the Lineage II salt mines.
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Where are the chat window settings?
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OMG IT'S NIGHT I BETTER GROUP UP WITH 20 GUILD MATES AND KILL PEOPLE IN DUNGEONS!!!
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Are all dungeons in this game going forward so fucking hard and almost impossible with pugs?

Level 30 dungeon honestly has one shot mechanics. How is it going forward?
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guys i want to sell purple sword on the auction house but i need rubix which i dont see where i can i get it from please help i got precious rubix but its not the same
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>>497312812
are you literally just leveling up random purple gear bro
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>>497315091
sit kid
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>>497314305
Surely you mean "impostour"? You need to up your game
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ok i played whole weekened

it's pretty unique and i hope they dont fuck it up (they will) the world is stupidly realistic not just graphically but design wise everything looks real world including 90% of the world being empty fields, but it actually feels weirdly comfy

feels like online dragon dogma 2 or kingdom come deliverance design wise and i am digging it.

i enjoy the game is 99% brainless grinding, actually a game i can play to relax without engaging my brain
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Please tell me I didn't fuck up by going dagger/wand
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>>497303840
I was just a witness to this exchange between our tank and healer.
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thronebros, they posted the pcgamer article on leddit...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1fwu3vb/none_of_this_makes_any_sense_amazons_latest_mmo/
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>>497314305
Nah we just assume you're Canadian
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>>497315427
oh it's a ff14 tank
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fuck it im going back to ESO
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>explore syleus abyss outside to do the quests
>killing skeletons and wraiths and shit
>suddenly pvp activates in the whole zone
>??? no idea but let's get some frags
>kill a bunch of people
>suddenly get jumped by a group of 50's and destroyed
>run back
>the gate is red and you can't enter
>there's a bunch of 50's camping everybody trying to zone in since the area next to the door flags you for pvp
>some 50 retard tries to kill me and falls down
So this is the nu-PvP? Just a bunch of fresh max levels farming low level zones?
I remember this was a running meme back in the years where baddies always complained about max levels camping low levels all day but I've never actually seen it happen across many years and MMOs.
This is the first time I see such degree of retardation.
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>>497315168
ANSWER THE REAL QUESTION
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Anybody wanna help me kill Shaikal?
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Are DOT builds fun in this game?
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>>497316270
no
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are there any good builds where dagger is the main wep?
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>>497315202
the gloves, bracers and head is BiS for me, the chest and pants are not, but i'll just transfer those over once i get the other items

greens and blues are dirt cheap to trait out, and when you transfer traited items from green>blue>purple>purple you get a bunch of blessing that comes with it, making the new item cheaper to trait out

i know what i'm doing
and i'm swiping
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everything you want to do in this game feels like its a waste of time but not in a good way
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>>497316770
t. doesn't actually play
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do wand users not wand this item? do they not want hit? or is price history broken?
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i'm actually loving the heck out of this game, and i usually am not much of a pvp guy, can't wait for all the casual normies to leave so servers and AH stabilize
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>gigachad NPC
>weapon option that's not available to players
>has his own animations
Dual swords when?
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>>497316907
hit chance is good on every single weapon, maybe wandfags are just dumb
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>>497317072
>customization options ALSO not available to players
We're getting brutally mogged by DaVinci.
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How much hit stat is too much hit?
How much weaken stat is too much?
How come there's like no information at all about what your stat even do?
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>>497317018
>can't wait for the population to drop so the price of everything shoots up
terminally retarded
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>>497317282
How can we even compete?
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>>497316907
These things barely dropped... no use for an extract of something that doesn't ever drop.
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>>497317362
meh, everything except arch weapons is pretty easily obtainable
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so compared to FFXIV (the multiplayer visual novel with raids), does this have more game or less game
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>>497301050
gold
>>497301192
mold
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>>497317282
The male NPCs will always mog male player characters so hard that it's making me think I'll just change to a female character
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>>497317587
it's primarily a pvp game so it depends if you count that as game or not.If you do, the content is technically unlimited.
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>>497317587
xiv has literally no game outside of logging in for an hour to do ultimates and then logging off til the next week
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>>497316891
k
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>>497314469
bump
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>>497317350
did you try reading your stat page?
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I've done all these co-op timed events for codex.
and I haven't enjoyed any of them.
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>>497315168
you can't sell dungeon weps with litho in this version
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I need help getting to level 50, in lottie.
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>>497319074
Do you look like Kotori? Will you call me sensei?
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>>497318519
Nta but for pvp stats just revolve around what others are using, which no one knows and same with pve, I don't think the game shows how much evasion X mob has so
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>>497319074
okay
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how do i find a boywife to play with
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>>497319371
Are you a girl or will pretend to be one?
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if you have to ask you'll never get one
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>>497319371
are u lottie...
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I'm constantly reading people bitching about gearing being too hard and that people ask for a specific power level.
Apparently it's 1800 for a level 50 dungeon and I have 1510 at level 26 so what the fuck are people even doing?
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>>497304403
What makes them replaceable? About to start and was going to play a tank.
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>>497319506
>so what the fuck are people even doing?
Not upgrading or crafting gear most likely
The tutorial only makes you craft a ring, so most people are probably running around with a bunch of empty accessory slots
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>>497319572
>What makes them replaceable
Literally everyone and their mother is using a Sword and Shield
Normies who want to be Generic White Guy with big sword all play Sword+Greatsword
"Tanks" are literally just the cannon fodder lemmings of this game for zerg pvp
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>>497319581
Dunno I'm in full blue gear by now.
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>>497319282
what else are you going to get for pve, damage reduction?
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Bros should I use star crystals to buy salt?
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Cant i just go pure perception in this game
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>>497320779
that's the pvp stat.
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>>497320779
you can try, resetting those points is free
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this game is fun
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is this any good?
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>>497320930
I love you
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WHERE ARE THE CHAT WINDOW SETTINGS?
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>>497321058
Yeah Range is good for PVP
I think there's also a wand that increases range as well if you want to super rangecuck
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>>497321207
I only love girly supports.
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What do I put my stats in if I'm going staff/wand?
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i LOVE little girls!! i love fapping to little girls!! i love gacha games with little girls!! i love cumming on my tummy to little girls!!
i also like mmos.
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>>497321058
I also got this >>497316907 in the dungeon run before it. is the game trying to tell me to go healer? or should I sell the bow to get some Lucent?
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>>497321530
You need to try this thing called rope (you tie it around your neck), you may enjoy it too.
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>>497321334
I'm girly, but I have dagger as secondary to my bow...
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>>497321630
the only ropes i enjoy are the ones that fire out of my penis :3
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the xivchuds are sperging out in all competing mmo generals because wuk lmao sucks
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>>497321915
>Not bow and wand
Bleh!
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>>497322559
I love you
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whats the point of owning so many amitoi if you can't even send multiple expeditions? gay
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>>497322775
If you did, you'd use Bow and Wand like me
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>>497322790
and you can't show your collection off to other players :-(
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>>497323124
You were built for supportslutting for Shield and Greastsword chads.
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people have been mentioning wow and runescape, but it actually reminds me more of lotro and dragon's dogma 1
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>>497323292
oh right that too. amitoi doesnt appear to other players no matter what right? also gay
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should I take the pink pill
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are you supposed to switch to your other weapon to use your other weapon's skills or just keep your stronger weapon out at all times
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>>497321317
the other bow actually has higher range
karnix only has damage
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>>497323660
you never switch your weapons manually, the game does it for you when u use spells from the secondary weapon
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game is fun ngl, these dungeon designs reminds me of early days in b&s
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rate my stats
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by the way how do you acquire more stat points after reaching 50lvl? with gear?
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>>497324597
with gear, yes
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what sort of gook wizardry did they use to optimize this? every other mmo slows to a crawl with people around
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>>497324441
You're so weak I could rape you and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it
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i will kick any sns/wand "tanks", reroll
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>>497325071
10 years in development btw
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-tZjOvRRsd0

why cant we get marketing like this?
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gate of infinity is filtering me i either run out of mana or health when the boss is at 10%
i'll never make it someone kicked me out of top 3
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>>497323383
T&L doesn't have even a fraction of the soul that DD1 has. It also somehow has way worse combat and a way worse class system
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>>497325239
doesn't answer my question nigger. for a genre called massively multiplayer every other game cheats with sharding and instancing. even xiv and gw2 have to survive with culling. how did they do it? are western devs just that dogshit now at optimizing?
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What's the verdict? Is the game worth playing every day for a whole year?
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>>497325650
This is what I'm playing instead of T&L lol
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>>497325912
thats my plan for the year
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>>497325224
sns/wand are the bis healers in pvp doe
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>>497325650
>spends entire short shrouded in green fart gas
>short ends with a giant brap as two girls appear on screen

what did they mean by that?
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So is it better to join no guild than a random one for the sake of being in a guild?

It seems like the leader can randomly steal your loot if you don't notice them changing the loot setting.
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>>497325869
lack of diversity hires.
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I can't do it, open world dungeons are so fucking stupid. Can't believe I'm saying this but it should be auto attack or something
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>>497326367
play with people
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I was told GS has no AoEs yet here am I just bulldozing massive packs and coming out with full HP.
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>>497326367
zoomzoom filtered out...
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>>497323383
>LOTRO
I couldn't put my finger on it before, but the game being anti-gooner is exactly what it reminds me of.
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>>497326367
Haven't played TnL. What's an open world dungeon and what's this about auto attack?
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>>497326773
>Haven't played TnL
go back to your general
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Open world dungeons are GREAT. The issue are level 50 retards swarming low level dungeons to kill people once PvP is on.
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>>497327046
they're doing them a favor because you should be saving currency until 50
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>>497327046
nighttime lasts only 30 minutes and daytime lasts 2 hours. seethe
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>>497326367
I think open world dungeons are cool but everything else about the game is so shitty I couldn't even last long enough to get to them
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>>497326532
>>497326476
I don't wanna mindlessly manual kill for hours a week, I'm 32, can't do that anymore
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>>497327261
>>497327284
>t. 80 IQ
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>>497327395
then this isnt the mmo for you. it's more oldschool
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>>497326773
It's just grinding mobs
>>497327458
I was warming up to it, maybe I find team
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>>497327458
>Hitting max level in 3 hours is old school
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I think the open world dungeons with the day/night system is the perfect way to cater to both pve carebears and pvp edgelords.
also the world bosses with peace and conflict modes.
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>>497327302
the idea has potential, but its hard when bots are there or br niggers harassing lowbies or otherwise being a nuisance. nobody seemed to figure out how to mitigate the downsides
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as a supportsissy (wand+bow) am i supposed to pick cloth armor rewards? or leather?
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wow people are actually so dogshit at these games. i was afraid of going into dungeons because i thought i was bad but wtf is the average playerbase of tab target games. literally the most brainless bot npc retards i've ever interacted with. like i understand missing the purple circle every now and then but how the fuck do you always get hit, how do you have karthus teleport to you for the millionth time and not understand you can turn him away from your party. how do you see a scythe spinning to you and think to run it into it after you've seen the animation for the 100th time
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>>497328195
https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides/wand-longbow-leveling-build-guide

https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides/wand-longbow-pve-build-guide

https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides/wand-longbow-pvp-build-guide
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>>497327432
>t. homosexual who will quit the game in a week
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>>497328406
>how do you see a scythe spinning to you and think to run it into it
So I can do a perfect parry and counterattack.
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>>497328406
think about all the games that have come out in the last decade and how sloppish and gay and handholdy they've been and then realize that if people are under 20 years old they've literally never ever played an actual game in their lives barring one or two autists who played mmo pservers
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>>497328549
you can't even do that to the karthus fucking boss what the FUCK people just don't pay attention at all it's infuriating
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how often do you find yourself in pvp when you're not actively searching for it
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>>497328618
grim
>>497328780
1 time and i killed the guy (ported into a conflict zone) and some guy was exxploiting the safe zone
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what are the archboss weapons called?
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>>497328780
>stay out of conflict zones
it's as shrimple as that.
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>>497328684
Speak for yourself. Also your average wowslop boss has about 100 times more mechanics and is much more hectic than anything in this game.
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>>497329163
that sounds annoying as fuck to do with randoms. i've never played wow and the more i hear about it the less i want to play it. ugly gay looking game nah i'd rather die another 50 times in a throne dungeon
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>>497329294
based.
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>>497329294
I don't disagree with you, Modern wow is pure cancer.
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throne dungeons are easier than xiv dungeons
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>>497329294
The reality of WoW is while the mechanics are more complex, everyone also plays with a literal bot who FLASHES WARNINGS AND SOUNDS ON THE SCREEN AT ALL TIMES TELLING WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO LIKE A PAVLOVIAN DOG.
Which softens the average pug retardation into being more manageable and also recovery is a lot easier they have rezzes and this game doesn't.
This game has simpler individual mechanics but they are a lot more punishing than say a lower tier FFXIV raid.
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https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/getting-started/tips-for-new-players
bretty gud article if people have questions
bloo is that guy who leaked kakao's BDO data files which forced J to start using actual stats instead of obscuring them all. He has been playing TnL in korea since release I don't remember if he's a cm/gm or not but he was in AA and other games anyone whos been playing for a few days probably knows all this shit though
kek based lil blue nigga
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>>497329778
I tried those addons (alarmbot or whatever the fuck it's calledd) I turned that shit off after literally 3 minutes I don't know how any fucking retard can stand that shit I'd rather just read a guide and then git gud personally
holy fuck that shit is annoying
>UR STANDING IN A PUDDLE
>THE BOSS IS GOING TO SWING HIS SWORD
>MAKE SURE TO PRESS 3 IN 8 SECONDS
god damn I wanted to kill myself
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>played 15 hours a day
>twice
I'm curious what will happen when I run out of shit to do though. I can't imagine pvp is all that fun more than a couple times a week or so, especially if you have max gear and such what's the point. Kind of was my problem with BDO and such, and FFXIV once you finish the gear treadmill. This is pretty much why I actually read the story and don't rush shit personally
Alt time?
Go outside?
Touch grass?
Hmm
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>>497330390
>max gear
see you in a few years
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>>497302117
Transfer to Justice and apply to OnlyFeet NOW
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>tfw don't want to play sns/gs but plate armor/weapons look so much better than everything else
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>do the first dungeon
>everybody else dies
>solo the boss
???
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>>497331145
Then just make a build using plate/str
Armor really doesn't matter in this game, it's just a matter of whether it has stats you want or not
You either stack evasion or endurance
That's it
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>>497331145
you can wear any armor you want with any weapons you want.
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>>497327619
Turn off PvP in them or make it opt-in, and make it so everyone gets credit regardless of who tags the mobs first. Easy.
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>>497331536
And lets give everyone participation trophy purples right?
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i don't get this. i barely had time to complete them. did i really miss all the rewards from this milestone thing?
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>>497331582
Why do you care about what other people have? Are you gay?
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Someone please explain this shit.

I'm about to transfer a +6 green to a blue. I haven't done anything with traits on the green. Is it worth doing before transferring, like how you get a green to +6 first?

And what "specific item" are they talking about? Is it 100% of all trait exp (i.e. you lose nothing) or only part of it? I can't fucking find any info about this.
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>>497330390
pvp is pretty goddamn fun i literally have a bunch of blue shit and have a ball.
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>>497331938
This is the so called optimized milestone pacing where shit only lasts for a day.
Retarded publisher.
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Is the matchmaking for this game fucked? How are there 200k people on but no tanks or healers
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>>497331103
well i mean max as in the best I can get but I get your point
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>>497332704
healing is the most stressful job in this game...
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I don't know what to do after using my dungeon tokens
I so fucking lost in this game
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>>497332704
all the good people use the party board or whatever the fuck its called the only people who use matchmaking are fucking retards who dont know mechanics and will die to trash mobs
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>>497332796
your guild activities bwo???
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so white materials are worthless?
and I should convert them into greens and blues and purples?
is there any difference in cost based on when I make the conversions?
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how can i make the floating heads shut the fuck up during dynamic events?>
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when is sex going to be implemented into the game
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>Playing on a $300 chromebook
>200+ fps, ultra settings
>Zero input delay, flawless

Thanks nvidia
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I don't care about PvP at all, I'm an instanced content and theorycraft andy. I can do PvP if it's fun and all, but I'm not interested in it by default. I tried the beta and didn't enjoy it. I have the game downloaded now and hit level 12 or 13ish using GS+SnS. It feels OK, but the story and questing are beyond mediocre and I don't see any cool fashion or things I can grind/strive for. Is all the fashion going to be cash shop only? Is someone interested in PvE just not going to enjoy this game?

I think I like GS most as a weapon but don't really wanna use SnS with it and tank as I find SnS thematically very boring. No other weapon combos suit my fancy. Xbow seems cool but none of the recommended weapons to go with it I find fun. Advice?
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>>497333492
based
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>>497333512
>>497307702
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is there any reason to transfer to a purple before you fully trait the blue because of the failstack boost?
and then you also need to be able to get some traits on the purple after you transfer?
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>>497333453
who do you want to sex anon?
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i have 0 friends
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>>497333787
Same
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FUCK

I haven't been using training dew since the game started and it's been expiring and now I just learned what they are for.

This fucking game and their mechanics that aren't explained.
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how the fuck do i unlock the other 2 trait slots on my blue weapons?
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does anyone have any porn of this game yet
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>>497334060
Me
Ask in the Discord and I'll DM it to you
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>>497333971
what's training dew
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>>497333984
you need to go to the screen where you enchant the item, pick trait at the top, then take a compatible item and go from there
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>>497334243
>then take a compatible item
what do you mean by this?
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>>497334228
a rain drop thing in your inventory with a timer on it, it adds mastery points to your weapons to level weapon mastery.
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>>497333971
unironically bricked
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>>497334228
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im bored
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>>497334561
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Is the game fun and for how long before most people drop it?
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>>497335040
it's just the 5th day
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How much of this boring ass story do i have to slog though before it fucks off and im allowed to play the game?
Like i really dont give a shit and would prefer killing the same mobs in a field for .001% xp that this msq shit.
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>>497335243
3 days if you take your time. a couple hours if you spederun with a guide
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the game is good, but I'm quitting today, I don't have the time required to play an mmo anymore, I gave it a fair trial, did all contracts, all dungeons, but I know I can't spend this much time in a game anymore
it is a fun game tho
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>>497334846
Can I make boys who look like this in this game
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>>497335856
Nice blog
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>>497334846
wanna...?
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i get stuttering on epic graphics, what settings can i disable to fix this?
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>>497335856
Lol just log once per week and do dungs only, you can gear like that you're fine.
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>>497335856
you dont have to treat it like a job. just pick one day a week to do your stacked tokens or points or whatever. in gvg just stand back with a staff and bow and start blasting like a pussy.
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i wanna leave my pussy guild so fucking bad
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>>497336925
>>497337069
I know myself too well, if I keep the game installed I will do all the content and play 15 hours/day like I did last 2 days
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>>497337179
Leave it!
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>>497333971
You're fucked, I had to create a new character after realizing that, kek
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I'm bored...
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>>497333787
Let's be friends. You... do play on Lottie, right?
>>497334060
There isn't even any fanart.
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>>497333787
>>497333862
join vidya!
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>>497337726
Yeah I am on Lottie. My ign is Mehzzy
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chinese pay artists to make "fanart" (fake) for their game to make it seem like people give a shit about it. japs dont need to, nipon master race. kr nobody makes it because koreans are lesser chinese./ and nobody respects them
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>>497337913
Do you bottom?
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>>497337913
I'll add you. We can probably kick someone to get you into vidya since I still see some inactives.
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>>497338130
She's already in the guild
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>>497337763
Im already in the guild
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>she
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>>497338130
>doesnt crosscheck vidya's member list to see if they are already in
ngmi
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Mehzzy is an attention whore I tried talking to them in game and they just ignored me
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>>497338209
What about it? We're all girls here
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any vidya guild member who is not at least level 40 by monday will be removed and make space for other anons who want to get in
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>>497338538
kys tryhard nigger
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>>497338538
every anon that wanted to get in is already in
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>>497338981
literally msq, and had a week to progress
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>INTENSE GROWTH LIGHT SEEPS IN
>need 4% to max out
god i hate when that happens it feels like a waste
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so uhh what do you do when you're out of stamina
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muh weapons = class is something that sounds good in theory but in practice is a mediocre substitute for classes
supposedly you can switch weapons when you want, but weapon mastery and gear traits defeat the purpose of it, and they sacrificed any kind of class identity for the sake of generic "build variety", which nobody really cares about if combat doesn't feel good
new world has this problem too, just because it's different doesn't make it good
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>>497339551
Keep gooning through the pain
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jerkin my boner
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>dodge attack
>PERFECT
>sucked back into the attack and get hit anyways
what the fuck my ping is like 50 pls scamazon this is impossibru
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>>497338981
>tryhard
>takes like 8 hours total
>game has been out for 133 hours (maint subtracted already)
hmm so this is zoomer culture
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>>497314305
i would rather that than the spanish i saw in chat today
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i cant believe 3 days in matchmaking is dead. i know this game isnt the best or anything but damn...
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It doesn't take long to hit 50 you retarded niggers
It's just tedious
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>>497317282
>>497317495
DaVinci's soooo awesome
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>healer in dungeons is quite stressfull with tards
>tanking seems like far easier
>still less tanks than healers

I SHOULD HAVE GONE FUCKING TANK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>497341012
you could not be more wrong if you tried
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>>497341106
i have yet seen any specific tank mechanic, though i have only done 2 50 dungeons for now. looks like tank and spank and do the same mechanics everybody needs to do
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>hit by enemy
>"?" damage
wat did they mean by this
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should i spend green weapon materials to craft 4 wands to get this blue wand?
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>queue
>instantly pops
>only 2 people accept queue
what the fuck retards
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>>497341224
Nobody needs tanks
Every single normie is playing Great sword+Sword
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if they actually let us switch from dps to tank or healer/buffer in dungeons they would be way more tolerable
I foresee lots of issues when the pop cools down
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>>497341458
this game is full of actual retards
>queue
>everyone joins
>healer quits instantly
:|
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>>497341451
please respond
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>Joined a maxed 70/70 guild
>25 people online
>Nobody but me talks

Are these real people?
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>>497342009
people are busy in the game, probably never noticed you talking
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>>497342009
Try again in Chinese
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>>497341917
>in dungeon
>almost done
>someone quits for no reason
>two others quit because of that
I can't wait until all the fucking zoomers give up. This is aids. I hope they implement a 40 minute cooldown for quitting dungeons it's not like we were even having trouble in the dungeon at all
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here comes the whale
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why does it take so long to fill dungeon queues with like 300k players
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>>497342175
no healers and the only healer that joins dungeons quits right when it opens
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Yeah no way this game is dying in months, it's not shit enough for that. We all experienced bless and elyon, this isn't that
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>>497342349
the players (zoomers) are unironically the worst part of the game if it dies its because no one can play because of them
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>>497342275
>His guild hasn't defeated Malakar
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>>497342349
don't worry, amazon will do their best to make it happen, starting with censorship
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Anyone on proton/steamdeck have an issue where you can't walk without jumping? Like if I try it will just teleport me back to where I started unless I bunny hop everywhere
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>Action mode
>Classic mode
Which nigger are you?
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>>497343660
classic because it works like action but your mouse is free
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Wait this is a think now?
Yeah I'm thinking we won
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>>497343660
right click is my toggle. the way I always wanted it in wow.
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>>497343340
adventurer pro percy in kastleton innit the penguin guy
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>be ausfag
>sunday arvo
>working hard all day
>long weekend to celebrate our kings birthday
>first weekend of TnL
Yeah I'm thinking it's time for maintenance
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>>497343660
classic lol how can you even heal in action mode, this game is pure tab target anyways.
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Why does vidya discord still not have an NSFW channel
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I wanna be a fucking rain death upon you mage
But staff/bow feels like a lot more bow and a lot less staff

I feel like a ranger with magic and it's just not the same thing
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>>497343660
Both. Action for running around overworld and classic for combat. If the game made moving around rocks and obstacles better (player pathing to cursor location) then I would stay with classic.
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>>497343972
You basically need to toggle action on for stuff like charges because they charge on the direction your character is facing instead of the ground target, who even knows why they include the ground target when it works like that
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why is the lvl 20 boss such a joke and then lvl 30 dungeon boss suddenly push your shit in?
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>>497342431
zoomers are the first ones to shill wow and gw2 and this is better than that dogshit art style
>>497343034
it's a korean game. the censorship will be menial at best. black desert still has coomshit and it's been 'censored' to hell,, yet no one cares. if anything kills the game it'll be p2w or insane gear requirements that let whales stomp in pvp
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>server open for transfer
>can't transfer because in a guild
>leave guild
>maximum transfers reached
I'm sorry Pettan bwos I'm not re-joining. My paypig friends are on a different server and I'm not taking any more chances.
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>>497344107
stupid.
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Bow+Staff - can swap either weapon for Dagger or Wand.

no other base combo comes close to this versatility.
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i cant feed my blue weapon into my purple weapon?
do i just upgrade it with tomes?
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>>497346130
>swap weapon
kek
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why are heals so shit in this game? my heals are ticking for 50 when people have 10k health. the fuck?
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>>497346151
level purple to 8
transfer levels to get it to 9 to save the most materials

you can also just save it to feed traits but you will probably only build pity
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>>497346994
I'm not even a healer and my heals tick for 500+ idk bro
did you level the skill? are you using a gray weapon?
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Wait a second... Is this MMORPG actually decent? (given you can look past the p2w cash shop with 2 battle passes and those books). Got to level 15 so far and am having a lot of fun. I expect I'll hit a p2w/grind/out of content wall within a few weeks, but it's fun for now.
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>>497343832
Thanks G, I know that little penguin on the turtle
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>>497347274
It's fine, the endgame is the usual gookMMO mess of systems though
I'll give it props for not completely shitting the bed like New World, this one is at least passably competent
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How am I supposed to get levels when the main quest won't let me start because I'm too low level? Nothing else I do gives any exp at all.
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on foe nem graves?
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>>497347581
blue (exploration) quests
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>>497346994
>he didnt put all his books into his heal skills

literally bricked
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How much stuff in this game is missable for good? It's already tiresome with twitch drops, discord quests, and amazon account linking. You get power from those things, too. But what about game content? Is there stuff you can fail in time and never get to do it again? Read something about those milestone things being missable.
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>>497347769
i did, they are literally halfway blue ranks and im only lvl 30. i put in my skill runes too or whatever that shit is called. heals are just fucking trash
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>>497343995
I'd rather not be on a watchlist
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>>497347581
Haven't had any issues, but I had fun doing my contracts for sure. I was farming litos to get my gear up to blue and doing events.

I started out my usual routine of going solo in an mmo, but this games mechanics actually make me miss not being in an active guild. The events and the pvp seem very fun, but I can't talk over voice chat and I'm playing without keyboard
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>>497347274
shitty UI
party number order killing ocd fags
no assist target so you can't just auto target the guy that's getting hammered by pve boss
buggy skills the moment your ping spikes to 100ms
huge delay and desync when gliding, jumping, hooking, and the game goes full retard with parkour puzzle quests
piece of shit coop dungeons with no revives triggering the mentally ill jobless faggots whenever someone fucks up
healer is weak af, can only babysit at most 1 or maybe 2 retards
after level 50 when the freebies are gone you only get 1 or 2 enhancement attempts per 5 daily contract quests, divide by 5 if it's purple tier
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>>497348217
fucking mmo faggotry
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is staff/wand supposed to be this mana intensive when im just hitting my buttons properly to do damage and throwing out heals
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>static has tank/healer/whale dps
>able to each pick a dungeon and run them three times extremely fast
>doing funny things like pulling people off resource nodes to grab them for myself
I'm really starting to like this game. Starting a lucent stack from guild drop payouts, shit is going to be cash.
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>puts your rare drop into guild storage
>claim them for myself as the payment of managing the guild
capitalism ho!
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>>497349114
dont give me ideas...
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>want to main a character with a build that is great for pvp and mediocre for pve
>can't do it because gear progression is tied to daily pve farming and people will kick you if you don't use pve meta builds
>can't have 2 different builds on the same character because after a certain point you need to commit to a single playstyle
This game is trash, but of course you faggots copypasting metabattle builds love it
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>>497349427
What build?
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daggers/xbow or daggers/bow for a bard-like gay dude build?
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man Penance server got fucking ruined
retarded KR players established alliances with another 2 top guilds and now got 300+ players at world pvp events
this shit is going to ruin the weekly world bosses
what a dumb system that allows guilds to establish alliances for insane numbers
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>>497349948
bro just declare war on them
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>>497350168
nigga I just wrote pvp
are you stupid
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eu bros ww@?
is it really just worth going towards NA? how bad is the ping?
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>play bow/staff
>like both weapons
>want to be useful in small scale pvp
>would have to replace one weapon with a dagger that turns either into a melee hybrid which i dont like
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>>497345980
stupid maybe, but not wrong
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>>497300945
Fuck bros, I absolutely hated the first 2 hours of this game. Something just feels off about it and I played gook mmos from Ragnarok to TOS then BDO
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>8runs on cave and no wand

just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>497350519
You need to spend an hour rebinding everything and fucking with the options to make the game playable. It might just be one of the worst default setup games I've ever seen.
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>>497350519
same but now i am 50 and having a blast for some reason
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>>497349948
>what a dumb system that allows guilds to establish alliances for insane numbers
It worked for EVE
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>>497350729
EVE has systems to support PVP beyond "paypig and blob to win"
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>>497350519
Depends on your weapon combo. I started with sns + wand and hated the game. Gave it another try with sns + gs and then it clicked for me. Now it's great. The world is amazing and I love running around doing contracts. It's probably the FIRST fantasy mmorpg that makes me want to role-play. The only other mmo that made me actually roleplay was The Secret World
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So I'm one of the freaks who enjoys pvp in MMOs and heard this game actually has some pvp focus to it. So I had some questions before I tried it out.

What is the size of pvp? 1v1, 5v5, 40v40, 100v100?
If the pvp size is large, are melee classes just useless?
Is it open world pvp or queued pvp?
I heard this game has timegates, can you pvp all the time or have to wait for pvp events to pop up?
Can you level to max with pvp?
Are their factions like WoW?
Is this game guild focused? are you just fucked if you don't get into the biggest guild on the server?
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>>497347808
If you didn't link your Amazon account day 1 and immediately watched 12hours of Twitch streamers and claimed everything and immediately used all the bonus stuff on your BiS gear (or else it expires in 24h) then your account is worthless.
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tomorrow (later today) i'll finally reaxh level 50. what a pain it's to level up as healer and havind a dps preset not as powerful duento resource investment prio
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>>497351034
1v1, 3v3 and large scale. Open world PvPvE happen at ingame night time
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>>497351072
ok so im quitting
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>>497349717
Dagger/wand for stealth sleep DoT bombs
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>>497351257
>Dagger/wand
That sounds like the second worst weapon combo in the game
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>>497350301
Nah, NA players are all trannies ERPing all day without playing the game
EUchads will start moving to Adriana once they realize Benny is a frog infested server
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is Xbow REALLY that bad for pvp and pve?
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>>497348407
>turn off world chat
>turn off party finder chat
god is good
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>>497351406
It's good in small scale PvP but bad in PvE, and since you need to play tons of PvE before being ready for PvP you can already see the flaw in this shit game
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doing dungeons with randoms is extremely painful they cannot lean on the idea of matchmade dungeons to sustain their population. there needs to be more on-demand open world stuff to do with your guild
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>>497351905
just use party board, i managed to do all dungeons without wipe today.
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>>497350519
I hated the combat at first because it felt clunky as shit. Once I changed some settings and got used to it, everything felt way better and now I can't stop playing! I just wish the characters looked better.
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>kill hundreds of mobs in open dungeon
>19,650/20,000 tokens left
Are kgooks this retarded?
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>>497351458
once sns gets nerfed xbow will be relevant again, sns is just a hard counter. in pve they're the best weapon with staff, dagger, gs or bow
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>>497351034
1v1 is kinda irrelevant, you have arenas for 3v3, you can fight smallscale during random night pvp (5-15 ppl), you have guild fights for boonstones/rifstones that are 70v70 and you also have siege/world boss pvp where it's whoever wants to join up to few hundred people fighting each other
tanks are insanely important for pushes and counterpushes, so no, and greatsword is a king for small scale - in max you have to flank or pick up sword and shield
both
you have to wait for the night for open world, otherwise its few hours daily of world boss fights etc
no, but leveling shouldnt take longer than 6-10h depending on your mmo experience
no factions, there's dominion events that put you into one of three teams and you fight each other
yes, without a good guild you will always be behind because of guild loot from wb, boonstone buffs etc., however biggest not always means best
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Is there some kind of castle siege? Does it look fun to you?
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>>497352394
https://youtu.be/h6Qj5jZbJsA
https://youtu.be/Mq6iRarVWKA
https://youtu.be/uhG7UXdWsQY
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>>497352561
>5 fps
literally unplayable
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>>497351419
we need to get the fuck out of benny asap
they cant even do the dancing goblin event
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>>497343660
action 100% of the time cus I'm a BDO main
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>healer are needed they said
>look at party board
>NEED TANK on almost every notice and inbetween DD

haha bricked
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>>497352282
nice

this is me and my gf
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how do you get pic related items? this shit boggles my mind..
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>>497350262
bro just kill them one by one on the open world
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Hmmmm
I don't think the game is very good even if you ignore 50% of your progress being locked behind monthly payments

I honestly don't see the point of the game existing. It doesn't really do anything well
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Request to join: Y / N?
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>>497350865
>The Secret World
rest in piss i miss you game legends is ok /10 i dont even know how its still alive but the population is literally a COUPLE people who can't let go
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>>497351419
>NA players are all trannies ERPing all day without playing the game
literally the opposite of what happens
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>>497352282
ty for dungeons if im recognizing you correctly in this game where i never look at people
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>>497354605
thank you too! it went smooth and fun
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>>497354369
y
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>>497354348
>50% of prog monthly blah blah
elaborate
>>497354369
N + block
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>>497354605
>>497353624
do not talk to my duo

do not make eye contact with my duo

do not send friend requests to my duo don't even come across my duo in random parties

don't reply to my duo posts and dont give my duo any attention I don't care if you can't tell it's her posts you better fucking learn to read them

I'm warning you, you won't live to regret it, she's MY duo and she's MINE and ONLY mine and JUST mine and ALL mine
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>guild planning to transfer servers due to pvp being a mess of grouped up guilds
I hope I won't lose all progress/milestones and other stuff What a weird system if that's the case
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>>497354801
>I don't care if you can't tell it's her posts
i kek'd out loud
>>497354823
when i transferred servers it took my kill count away but it let me claim all those skill redirect scrolls from the shop a 2nd time
stupid koreans thanks for the 24 free scrolls
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>did dungeon like 7 times
>last time we did it without tank and i as healer didnt notice anything different aside from boss sometimes switching aggro between dps

either all the tanks i had were dogshit or what the fuck is going on
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>>497354908
I wonder how exploity that can be
>join a server
>collect all the milestone shit
>collect the story shop shit (those scrolls)
>transfer server
>collect whatevers available
>transfer server
>repeat until banned
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I haven't seen a single dungeon run without someone quitting midway or having to wait for some random shit 5 minutes.
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>>497306971
I am actually not fucked. The game isn't really interesting me.
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>>497355183
tanks and healers both in this game seem to be only necessary for 1 shot or unavoidable shit, at least so far. They also seem to all either be total retardshit or ultragiga chads with little to no in-between
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>>497355183
most dungeon bosses can be tanked by a dps with good gear + good healer
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>>497313637
>join EU server
>zero personalities
>best bet is having some brits that aren't cunts and nords/germans that can control their autism levels enough to be pleasant to hang out with
>will in all likelyhood stop talking to you completely if you stop playing the same game as them
>join NA servers
>memorable people, social, people do eachother favours
>actually keep up with eachother even if you quit
>downside is having to play an action mmo on unfavourable ping and quite likely having to be on for degen hours to accomodate them
it's nice if you're a neet with no job prospects. I wish I was just born in america.
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>>497315125
It gets so much worse. Level 50 people literally just die on repeat to adds and asspull things that wipe the entire group on their way back while you're killing a mini boss. Then they refuse to press Q on the boss AOEs and get one shot with their epic 60 DEX build and cause it to take even longer to the point you might as well just fucking reset. Over the past week I've healed for 4 hours in Death's Abyss and have only cleared it once. IT'S NOT A HARD DUNGEON. THE BOSS IS MECHANICALLY PISS EASY. But what can you do when the console retards you have in your party just flat out have a 1.5s reaction time to things?
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>fuzzy movement
What graphics setting causes this fuzzy/blurring eyesore on moving objects
It's so jarring to see and even seems to happen on things like my own characters hair when moving
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>>497351072
I thought so. Fuck all these games today they all do this shit and know exactly how to manipulate the human brain in unhealthy ways. The only way to win is not to play.
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>>497355926
must be some kind of dof or upscaling
turn off all that shit at the bottom motion blur etc etc upscaling is good though cuz this game is a cunt but maybe its on performance or something idk all the settings off top of my head
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>>497355926
turn off dlss
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So if the date for a milestone passes, I can never ever get completion and the rewards again? Great game they have here.
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Why is Wand's decaying touch not applying to multiple enemies like it says on the tooltip?
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>>497355286
every dungeon ive run with the lottie guild has been good to great
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The only thing I don't like in this game is I feel like the server doesn't keep up at times, other than that I'm having a grand time.
It really sucks when this happens though and I kept an eye on my ping and it's not changing so I guess its just server operations or something
random example
>jump
>game sometimes "sucks" me back to where I jumped a little bit after I land
It's really aggravating while fighting stuff or trying to do boss mechanics when that happens it's like as if you go backwards in time half a second
I can only imagine how shit this game feels if you have really bad ping or unstable internet. Mines not the greatest but it's not like 10ms or anyhting it seems to stay around 50-60 no matter what I do
thanks for reading my blog
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>Allied Resistance Forces Contract Scroll II Laslan & Stonegard
can I just stack those puppies up until i feel like doing it?
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>>497356416
Could be packet loss on your end, especially with the wildly varying ping. If you're on a wireless connection switch to cable and if you're on cable buy a new (high quality) cable. Do a package loss test in CMD, Google the relevant command line input.
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what do the alliance resistance scrolls do?
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>>497356164
>>497356196
I did accidentally have AMD FSR2 on by accident while messing around with settings
Looks like that cleared up most of it, thanks
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>>497356789
Or, you know, fix your rubberbandy servers.
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>>497356864
Glad my advice was helpful to you

Dickhead
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>>497356789
what I meant to imply is that my ping will be 50-60 but it stays at whatever it is. In this case its 57 right now
for once in my shitty life I don't think its on my end unfortunately
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>did all my dungeons, no purple weapon dropped
>did all my contracts and the bought the pouches from the ornate shop, no purple weapon

literally bricked already, may aswell quit
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>>497357298
(for 1.1.1.1 its 27 but yanno that doesn't count in-game unfortunately )
>>497357196
that wasn't me kek
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>>497356416
I see it as a net code problem.
But you have to understand that the game is designed for massive fights. If they made it more client side, you'd see bad ping players skating around and teleporting everywhere.
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playing on eu fucking sucks
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>>497357196
>faggot spacing
Deserved.
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>>497356273
If you're talking about the healer basic damage over time spell with the 5 second-ish cooldown, there is a perk upgrade for it to spread it I think, it's single target by default
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>>497350301
I went to Vortex because it had the highest player numbers when I started playing
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If no consensus is made on EU server, I'm moving to Adriana next week.
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can i transfer from eu to na
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so how am i supposed to regen? health pot is 1 minute cd.. just buy these gay world leaves once im out of em or what? so you spend gold while farming instead of earning it lol
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>follow guide to pick up all codex pages in kastleton to be sure i got them all
>go to every single one (32 of them on this map)
>still missing a bunch of random pages
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>497358651
it says its full though
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>>497358753
Get a healslut
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>>497358753
nigga you get millions of gold easily
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already bored desu
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What should my gear look like as soon as I hit level 50?

I'm currently still in greens without any unlocked traits, should I move on and upgrade the blues I got during the story? Should I try to unlock the traits on my greens instead?
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>run tyrant 10 fucking times to try and get staff
>fucking epic longbow drops

Why is this game like this? wtf am I going to do with a longbow? I wanted the goddamn fucking staff
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>>497359141
Jesus Christ there are literal guides in the OP, go read one
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>>497359008
so the leaves are the way to go? im dagger&xbow and have no heal skills except maybe some lifesteal modifier for a skill
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can you transfer gear levels from blue to blue?
i wonder if i should level my current blue item or save my mats for when i get the alleged bis blue item before the alleged bis purp item
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>>497358753
just play longbow ;D
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>>497359639
yes.
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>>497359550
At level 30 you get guardian skills which can top you off
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tower bosses r fun i had to unlearn being as far away as possible so the lightning bitch didn't kill me with his aoes
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trying to get people to do mechanics in pve is like pulling teeth
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>>497360118
none of the 4 guardians i have at lv50 heal me. so i have to go into the lv50 zones to get them. i bought some tree leaves now but its still stupid af, the game sucks
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>weapon mastery gives you nodes like "health regen/mana regen, magic defense
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Wait, there is no trading function in this game? tf
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>>497358651
Come home adrianachad
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>>497361425
koreans either limit or doesn't implement trading at all into their mmorpgs any more to combat RMT (they want to run the RMT themselves)
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>>497361425
Gotta pay real shekels to use the "premium" "trading" auction house goyim
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>whole chatlog is just "guildmember x started working on contract y" /group member x looted item y"
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I can't believe there's not a single euchud to say "I'm making the vg guild in server xxxx, come, let's play" it's literally just that
choose a server that never gets full so people can always join it and people will join
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>>497362016
so why are you not doing it then?
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you can kick me from vidya: zCld
I already uninstalled
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>>497362016
I mean, you could do it instead of bitching here etc. make a poll for few threads, gather data where ppl are willing to migrate to.. and after 3 days you will see a faggot like yourself posting the same ideas in /tnlg/
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>>497362123
I am not european
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odds of me completing this dungeon?
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>>497362317
join parties from the party board, not from matchmaking, no one uses the matchmaking
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My strategy for all MMOs is to join late when tryhards have been max level for a while and they give away mid-tier stuff for free to newbies.
But if there's no trade in this Jewish game I'm out.
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am I correct in my understanding?

to start gearing, I need to craft blue items from the litograph book to feed into other blue items in order to trait them.

but in order to craft these blue items, I need to first craft green items, whose lithographs also come from the book by turning in grey items. and these grey items drop from overworld mobs.

is there an easier way to get these litographs for green items? am I misunderstanding something?
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>>497362457
>game is le jewish because I can't be a begger!!
Grim
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>>497362564
>is there an easier way to get these litographs for green items?
craft merchant
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>finish daily dungeon runs
>finish contracts
>spend abyssal shit
now what?
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>>497362893
make an alt
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>>497362893
>spend abyssal shit
how? where you farming?
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>>497362994
Nowhere yet, it was more of just a general question about the daily schedule. Shadowed Crypt opens today though so I'll be spending it there.
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>>497362893
literally nothing more to do
the game just like other korean shit is based on gating
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>>497363142
Yea about same, Syvleus 3-4 has dogshit spawn rate and packs..
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Looking for a gaming guild:

1) You must be an American straight naturally born male 18-50(age) only guild. No exceptions.
2) The guild leader and inner circle (officers, best friends, long time members) must not be upper-middle class IRL earners.
3) You have to be okay with being a constant target of cancel culture for housing me within your guild. So no weak leaders who cave into peer pressure from rando's outside the guild.
4) If your guild has mandatory try hard raid shit that's fine cause I'm a NEET youtuber who can make any and all times with no life obligations or family.
5) I'd like a guild that does fun, trolley, lulzy shit too, not just "kill the dragon get loot" kinda shit.
6) Your guild must not contain members of the military, police, government, or schooling professions.
7) You must be okay with me creating youtube content from guild activities. No I won't record your voice or anything for public viewing.
8) You must be okay with entire large guilds declaring absolute war and total destruction on you for the mere fact you allowed me into your guild. Expect to aggro some very heavy hitters in whatever game you play. I have a very bad rep with left wingers and trannies.
9) You have to allow freedom of speech. Nothing that breaks discords rules of course, but I will not tolerate someone telling me that I cannot say certain words over voice chat or talk about certain topics.
10) You must be okay with someone who harbors extreme hatred towards nearly everything.
11) No one in the guild who creates content can be friends with the left, LGBTQ shitters. This is treason.
12) You must be in it for the LONG term. As in, a life-long guild that plays multiple games and not just one fucking thing then everyone quits when that game dies.

I can elaborate if you need me to.
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>>497301417
fuck you I WILL eat your soul
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>>497363523
Mucho texto but join OnlyFeet on Justice.
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>>497363523
>I can elaborate
Please don't.
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should i use all my ornate coins on pouches and do i buu them at lvl 50 or does it not matter?
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>>497364168
Give me more info. Like, is it REALLY straight white males from America only? NO girls, no fags, no kikes, no browns, etc?
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>>497364382
>american
>straight
>white
lmao
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I hate footfags so much it's unreal
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>>497364382
It's an Europoor guild and we had an influx of 70 members in the course of 2 days so I bet we have a bunch of mudpeople amongst us. Our guild leader has some plans on turning the guild into a guild boss doing pvp guild by swapping out inactive or poorly performing members with more active and ones. And we are seeking to make enemies with everyone to incite pvp wars and such. But it's probably not what you're looking for after the aforementioned mudpeople and it being a european guild.
>>497364729
It was a meme name but it helped getting members early on. We had a bunch saying they joined because of the name alone.
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So my game runs buttery smooth even with a million niggers spamming skills around but that dancing goblin world event boss freezes my game right before every dance directions prompt and it lasts long enough for me to miss the mechanic.
What's going on?
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>>497362016
>>497362283
Okay, here is the deal, I can do it, I'm willing to be guild leader, but here's the thing. I get to be online 90 minutes of average per day, sometimes 4 hours max and probably 2 to 3 days in a row where I at best can come online do deal with some admin stuff. I have no keyboard and I cannot do voice chat.

Now you decide if this is a plus or a minus to you, but I will probably say that I'm immune to faggy discord clique business.
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>>497365789
it would be better if it was some neet being the leader, it's not a lot of work to be a gm in this game, but you need to be online
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>>497363523
>must not be upper-middle class IRL earners.
I don't get this meme? I don't want an unemployed Reddit mod who has a trip with the little power xhe has. The best clan leader I ever had was an owner of a plumbing company that had a 7 room house and made around $250k a year.
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>>497366651
I'm on the poor end and I don't mesh well with rich folk. They just don't understand the plight of the poor.
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>>497366651
Richfags have no time to play. They just log in to swipe and log out. You want players that can put a modicum of time and effort into the game,
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>>497366294
Yeah well if all the neets are too incompetent tp assume leadership, I'm all you get
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It feel good killing random ttv fucks
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>no flying mounts
>world is beautiful, huge, detailed
>people everywhere, ''mounts'' are slow
>random world pvp in the moonlight desert as the sun raises

They have such a potentially beautiful game on their hands PLEASE dont be greedy DONT fuck it up
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>open the blakhowl pouch
>click the 75x green marind ore to use to craft skill books
>it gives me 1 epic marine ore
god fucking dammit dude
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>>497369221
This is a gook game so what you can expect down the line is.
>retarded cosmetics like clown outfits, fursuits, pink afros, inflatable weapons and underage swimsuits
>morph options that aren't animals but shit like rockets, bikes and brooms
>no reason at all whatsoever to leave a town resulting in a dead world
>you're stuck these with hordes of mentally ill troons wearing the most ridiculous shit painted neon pink
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>>497369316
you can dissolve it down tiers I believe
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>>497369536
>dissolving it gave me 225 instead of 75
thanks anon
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Here are some pro hacker tips for you niggers struggling crafting your first blue set of gear.
>buy white gear from the npc
>break it down into infinite magic powders
>you get plenty of money for this doing contracts
>prioritize contracts that give you magic crystals
>you can buy litography scrolls from the contract merchant
>you can farm many green gear pieces in sileus' abyss
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>>497369316
If you need skill books, the best way to do it right now is buying purple books with ornate coins then dissolving them down to blues. It's 10 coins for 1 purple which dissolves into 10 blues and they've been tossing those coins at us like they're nothing.
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>>497369221
i expect gw2 levels of clownfiesta in the future
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>>497369806
How do I dissolve?
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>>497369904
Don't go as far as dissolving into greens, but into blue is good value. Getting all of your skills to epic level 1 is a big deal.
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>>497369784
You will be starved for money later on
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>>497370071
Getting full blue gear in your 20s is a big deal since it'll last you a long fucking time.
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there are 5 dudes online in the eu guild and nobody is saying shit in chat
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Wasn't NCSOFT also behind GW1 which was a good game? Maybe they wont fuck it up
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>>497370503
why are you not talking then`?
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>>497369784
>buy white gear from the npc
is there a specific item to buy you found is most efficient? or is there a cap
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>>497370549
dont enjoy talking to myself
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>>497369459
we get it you hate xiv stop projecting
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>>497370191
well traited green gear is better than untraited blue gear
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why the fuck are all male hairstyles with short hair bar like 2?
gigacringe
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>>497369221
they already changed some things to be more p2w
>some bis items were moved from dungeons to world bosses or even arch bosses
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Am I doing something wrong, or are some fish just impossible to catch? Like they just pull forever in one direction and I don't have the stamina to keep it back
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>>497371262
noo my heckin infinite grind to get my heckin 2% increase!!!
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What's the best way to get Trait Unlockstones?
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>>497371385
You should do it in a sense that you hold down A or D until you deplete 80%ish of your energy bar, let go of A or D so it charges back to 100% and repeat..
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>>497371173
Short hair is cringe and gay in the first place.
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>>497371736
nta but that doesn't help, some fish just continue in one direction forever

>>497371934
that's what I'm saying bro, why can't these gooks into male characters
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What the fuck is going on with Benny? Shits lagging like crazy.
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maint
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>Day 2
>wboss Malakar keeps crashing server
This is getting pathetic at this point..
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>>497372086
Does this happen on other servers?
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>>497372225
Dunno tbf, but everytime new wboss Malakar event is up and boss gets to 45-50% the server crashes.. thats what's happening on Benny.
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>>497372026
>that's what I'm saying bro, why can't these gooks into male characters
I don't mean in this game but in general.
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>>497372026
>why can't these gooks into male characters
My character looks awesome
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i wonder if aoc will be the tl killer once it comes out
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So the EU guild is just kill for real?
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>>497372867
>3 online
I think we need to regroup.
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>>497371262
Newfag and not original poster but just curious - how are world bosses p2w? is it guild only content? p2w only content? i ran dungeon as f2p and i like this gearing method so curious whats a world boss and if i will hate it
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>>497372937
We should, some members already migrated to Zenith and Adrianna etc. Benny tbf is shit.
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I just hit level 21 and got to Vientra Village. At this point, the story makes no sense to me anymore. Idk if it honestly ever did. I realized I am taking it slow and watching these cutscenes and listening to dialogue that doesn't ever really connect. Should I just start spamming through the MSQ like BDO?
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https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QDAYly8
https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QDAYly8
https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QDAYly8

Vote now EU frens, if it's on Zenith I could make the new guild, otherwise someone else has to do it.
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>>497374251
How is Zenith in terms of English speakers?
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>>497374250
>reading story in a kmmo
yes just skip
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>>497374373
Mostly English speaking, you see some non-English guild ads at times but I don't think you can avoid that.
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>>497374381
>kmmo story
>you wake up
>lost your memories
>you meet someone
>you're actually a hero
>go here do this
>kill this big bad
>thank you, hero
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>PirateSoftware is playing our game
we are so back bros.
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>>497374708
>20 years experience in the industry
>professional hacker
>game dev
>deep masculine real voice
>worked for Blizzard
What a chad
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>>497374251
which is the most English one thats also the most populated without being full
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>>497372467
>subscription
doa.
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cant find where to turn off thr profanity filter from
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>>497375017
Donno but on Zenith if anything there's too many people as you can't do dungeons unless it's in the middle of the night.
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so do I cope with dlss and framegen or do I drop everything to low?
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>>497372352
and I am agreeing with you, or rather you're agreeing with me

>>497372393
ye but the long hair options are extremely limited, almost non-existant
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>>497375227
>more people
>less dungeons
huh?
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>>497375831
he means open world dungeons ie. too many ppl farming inside them and too slow respawn rate.
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is there any way to hide the guild logo on my cape?
as usual the eu guild has an ugly immershan breakimg tranny logo
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>>497349920
dagger/xbow is really high APM when played correctly, and top in PvE dmg potential, fun in small scale pvp, a bit hard to make work in large scale pvp

dagger/bow is much better in large scale, decent in small scale, decent in pve
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>>497350301
>is it really just worth going towards NA?
maybe if you're a NEET and you don't mind the ping

if you plan to actually participate in guild activites you need a fucked up sleep schedule to align with their timezones
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>>497367080
Kek this is untrue especially when you're a higher up or have a business you settled and have others doing the work
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>>497375227
Retard stop using the random que there is party board that has gear power check.
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>>497331582
i don't have any purples yet so this would be really nice
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my first porple...
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>>497376707
Í'm talking about the open dungeons...
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>>497300945
Whats a decent Greatsword/Dagger build?
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You did prepare for Shadowed Crypt opening today right?
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Whats the point in levelling up your offhand and is there ever a time you'd actually swap weapons since you can cast everything anyway?
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>>497377480
when you use a skill from that weapon it uses that weapon's stats/masteries
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>>497377521
makes sense
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>>497301559
If anything they should've remove the autobattler out of melee completely, also why is ranged combat at close combat range?
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>>497314369
>FF14
shan't be listening to your opinions then
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>teleport to fonos basin
>npc gets this song stuck in my head
https://youtu.be/EO6JN3LLTz8?si=Es5P3j6UFRQDh_hY
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How the fuck do I stop running oom in dungeons?
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>>497377924
bwo your mana pot?
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>>497377924
Food and mana pot, abilities that gives you mana and mana regen on gear.
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So if I want to try other weapons how am I supposed to get the ~500 green books required to at least not be trolling
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>>497379079
run contracts for parchments and crystals.
dissolve the crystals and parchments into green tier.
the real problem is multiple sets of gear with traits.
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>Abyssal Contract Tokens are overcapped
wtf do I do with these? farm for myself or for Lucent?
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>>497379253
yeah i've been working on a dps set since playing tank seems horrible for dungeons, there's way too many of them and dps are the real bottleneck
but all my books are invested in wand and sns so
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>>497377094
>you will be able to farm there due to the whole server going in

LOL
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how do you get Wine?
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Wait, so weapon specializations only work if you have the weapon out? The passives don't work from both weapons at once?
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>>497379987
I thought Masteries were the only exclusive ones.
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>>497374708
actually kind of refreshing watching somebody that isn't retarded and can process all the information presented without being a metaslave.
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>>497380394
This!!!

He's such a smart chad
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>>497379987
pretty sure they do, vampiric contract passive from wand heals me even when i am on bow
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>>497371385
Some fish are higher level than you and will therefore move in one direction long enough to guarantee escape if you're not a high enough fishing level or don't have a good enough rod. They say that in the initial popup tutorial window when you unlock fishing but it's easy to miss.
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>>497374251
>Just 7 votes
I don't think there's enough players for a EU /vg/ guild here...
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>>497379834
Oh I didn't mean to use them. I meant retards spending 100 Lucent per.
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GET IT TWISTED
YOU WILL WIN
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>>497374251
I'm on torrent so thats what I'm voting for
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this auction house lag is really starting to piss me the fuck off
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>>497374251
Lets go wraithchads
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Most if not all boss mechanics don't require a healer or tank, and the healing output is sustained rather than bursty and the inly thing the tank has to do is either soak or click defend at the right time, something anyone above 5k hp can do

The game doesn't have a trinity system yet still advocates it, you don't need it but still you have to queue for it and it shows in role check
All mechanics are either co-up like saving someone else or pressing a button or solo such as timing a block

The game is doa as, from the moment people queued for dungeons, it set the tone for the remainder of the games lifespan
I suggest looking for a guild to farm content with and avoid pugs like the plague because it's only going to get worse (far worse) as it starts turning into lost ark 2.0 but somehow even more p2w

By the end of the month the game will stop getting new players entirely and start bleeding players until eos by the end of the year
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>>497381907
>more p2w
>than lost ark
you don't play the game
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>>497300945
we got this crap instead of aion 2.
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>>497381907
back to /xivg/ you go
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>>497380940
so this is how I make lucent to farm traits...
time to become a chef.
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>>497382015
>need to altnigger with 6 characters daily AND swipe just so you're geared enough to do what's some of the most unfun and frustrating content in any game
I regret dumping like 1k hours into that game on release.
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im actually amazed at how trash this game is
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guys the XIV schizo is back shitposting again...
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>>497381907
raidtrannies getfukt.
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What's this abyss dungeon thing with circe and how does the door open? On my first try it was open by accident and I jumped in a whole in the floor and died instantly lol
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>>497382537
xir please understanding` you must redeem the ziv/
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>>497381907
I need this game to last until GF2 comes out in the west, or at least until Gran Saga.
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im actually amazed at how good this game is
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so this game is Lineage 2 + Guild Wars 2?
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name 3 things the game does exceptionally well
besides the idea behind the transform gimmick instead of mounts, that's pretty cool
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>>497383230
>art direction and graphics
>music
>open dungeons
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Is this a joke?
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i just started playing this game, what weapons do i use?
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>every single low level zone is full of 50's during pvp times
What's the cause for this disorder?
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>>497383230
World design
Empty space
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>>497383693
thats how open world pvp always ends up, nobody wants to pvp unless they have a massive advantage and 0 change of losing
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>>497383498
>art direction and graphics
it generic asian's take on european fantasy
every single zone is boring

>music
lol

>open dungeons
groups spawncamping every spawn?
conceptually cool, maybe, but implementation is utter dogshit

>>497383807
>World design
their attempt at verticallity is very medoicre after your first 10 hours
still far better than most mmos but not "exceptionally" so

>Empty space
ah yes running through thousands upon thousands of acres of random trash mobs truly is great
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>>497384042
>oh no this game doesn't have COOOM and TROON FLAG COLORS
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>>497384042
all of those "trash mobs" generally have a chance to drop BIS items or items worth hundreds to thousands of lucent

sit down cucky
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>>497384156
It also doesnt have good gameplay.
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>>497383656
im going to play sword and shield and greatsword since no one replied to me
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>>497384042
>t. one of the retards that doesn't understand mob tagging
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>>497384207
Name one modern "mmo" that does.
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>>497384295
BDO
Unfortunately everything else, including server stability to make proper use of said combat sucks
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>>497384245
>>497307702
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>>497384363
What's good about BDO? It's the exact same gookslop where you reach max level in a day and then do boring dailies to upgrade your gear into infinity.
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>>497384207
The gameplay is better than in The Witcher 3 which is about my minimum standard to enjoy a game. I dont care for story, just give me a world that's lively enough for me to make believe and have me explore it on my own terms while throwing combat encounters my way every so often.
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I still don't understand how traits work. So far all my gear only has 1 trait but I got a blue were I could unlock a second trait randomly when I started playing.
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>>497384363
BDO is booty. the combat is mid af.
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>do dungeons all day.
>get a greatsword drop from a mob
>get a cape out of 20 pouches
feelsmildman
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>>497385475
>longs for old mmo experience
you wanted this. no complainies
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>>497385475
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>>497385651
i wanted classic wow but korean
what i got was blade and soul but worse
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>BDO combat
>group all mobs and press 2 buttons to 1 shot them all
>screen shakes so it must be good

BDO shills are so tiring. the combat is okay.
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>>497385769
thats a bis cape for a lot of builds
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>>497385475
lil bro never grinded out the chaos sanctuary for weeks looking for high runes, or andariel for stones of jordan, or mephisto for starter gear, or pindleskin for quick loots, or baal runs.
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where are the training dummies
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it's over
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>>497386179
kastleton arena
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>>497385856
>WoW classic
>oldschool mmo experience
lmao
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>>497386023
What are all the BIS healer items? Are there any BIS blue items for other classes or are purples best?
>>497386046
Abyss Tokens kinda underrated cuz it puts a ton of randoms in a room, they struggle alone and then group up.
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>>497383859
thats not true, helping with long range attacks/heals on the edge of a zerg is fun even when youre half as strong as the chads brawling in the middle of it
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>>497386614
pvp wise anything with evasion is generally pretty good, i don't know what defenses healers stack
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What evasion should I get as a cross/staff user, melee and range?
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Bros please help me. I'm a late starter and I am level 30. I tried out the new dungeon with the chimera boss and all my groups are getting destroyed by it. The fireball you're supposed to body block, but when I do it I take so much damage I basically did instead. What's the point then? Also when he does his large AOE the grapple point doesn't seem to do anything, and I get hit like 3 times by then anyways. And the poison puddles seem almost impossible to avoid, also doing a lot of damage. Basically our healer has zero chance of keeping up. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, but it's impossible.
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>>497385769
Well, what trait did the sword roll?

>>497383693
people farm the open dungeons because they have good drops, it's going to be mostly 50s
and if you're in a conflict event that's on you, go to a peaceful one or avoid the area for a bit.

>>497383859
in this game a small coordinated group can swing a zerg fight
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>>497386575
well what did you expect like 95% of current MMO gamers are WoW babs
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>>497386982
Bro you get beginner greens in the beginner open dungeon. The fuck would a 50 want that for?
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>>497383619
what, some commie localizer thought he'd slip in shitty politics? say it ain't so.
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>>497387118
literally any item drop is useful because of how traits work
all open dungeons drop lots of growthstones
even the lowest level dungeons can drop some blues pretty commonly and those are always valuable again because of traits

and some people just want to pvp other groups in the dungeon at night time and don't care about drops
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>>497386982
sword rolled max hp
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should i fish wherever or are there secret spots with extra loot or something
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uh bwos? stop quitting the game
the honeymoon isn't over
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>>497387250
How do traits work? I've never been able to transfer any trait, the option is always locked.
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How the fuck are you even supposed to farm endgame open world dungeons? I think my servers mid-low pop and every single spawn is camped by two parties
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>servers are so fucked I can't even write in chat
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>>497387372
In good games like L2 this was solved by simply pking a party and taking their spot but here you can't do shit.
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>>497387351
Duplicate items with different traits will unlock new trait slots with the traits that they have
so if you have two of the same helmet and one has max health and the other has ranged evasion you can add the evasion to the max health and unlock the second trait slot

after that, any item of the same slot (or in case of weapons, same type) with the same trait can be sacrificed into the item to increase the trait level

if you feed a green into a blue, it's a 10% chance to increase the level, but it builds pity so the next green will be a 20% chance and so on, same for blue to purple.

So you want duplicates of an item to unlock all 3 trait slots with ideal traits (or use trait unlockstones to unlock a trait of your choice) and then you want duplicate slots with those traits you chose to level them
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is it better to farm all dungeons to get your weapon of choice and craft it with the soul shards for the 2 essences? i farmed one of them for a weapon which didnt drop and regret my choice.
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>>497387796
it's better to run every dungeon because chances are most of them have blues that will be good for you one way or another and if you do lucksack your weapons you can use the pity stone to craft a BIS ring instead, you can also do 1 of each token to get a few trait unlockstones.

>>497387643
bro your nighttime? In syleus' abyss you can just permanenetly kick groups out for the night because the door locks.
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>>497387726
So basically the devs force 50's to farm low level dungeons which just fucks over the said low levels.
Amazing.
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>>497387980
retard
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>>497388059
>no rebuttal
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>>497387980
no because when more of them open up all the 50s will be in the later dungeons
people are farming the low level ones right now because that's the only way to burn tokens

>>497387319
ummm??
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>>497387934
sex
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>>497387372
You ask them to invite you. Its a party of randoms. If they're full then move onto the next party.
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>>497388158
>gatekeep content at launch
>but make it so leveling is retardedly fast and zoomers hit level 50 in a day
>the said zoomers terrorize normal players trying to enjoy the game
This whole milestone system would have made sense if the leveling wasn't so disgustingly fast.
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>>497388281
>and zoomers hit level 50 in a day
The only people not hitting level 50 in a day are actual, genuine, mouth-breathing retards
The story is incredibly short
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>>497388281
im sorry you're inconvenienced for a day
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>>497388281
Ýou can play on an EA server that has more stuffed unlocked
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>>497388480
>just skip everything and zoom zoom to max level
>ignore the rest of the game
Why do retards do this?
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This becomes a right slog in the desert area. Does it pick up again later?
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>>497389191
>slog
???
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>>497388798
Nobody said anything about skipping, you're just a huge retard
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>>497387952
>In syleus' abyss you can just permanenetly kick groups out for the night because the door locks
wow I never went to a dungeon at night yet, this is pretty based. are they all like that? is there a way to revive at your character?
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>>497389403
I will reach level 50 while also:
>completing my codex
>completing adventure log
>getting blue gear and upgrading it
>upgrading skills
>doing contracts
>picking up books
>leveling cooking and fishing
>exploring the map and activating waypoints
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>>497389485
It's not based at all, it's in fact retarded.
>you can't revive
>you can't zone back in while pvp is active
>normal players doing the dungeon at the intended level just get bulldozed by 50s
>50s ignore each other since with lowbies gone there's plenty of spawns
>in the rare case two 50 groups decide to fight, both will just lose members (that can't zone in)
>it only lasts for 30m anyway
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>>497389381
slow and boring, my burger fren
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>>497389812
I really don't understand zoomers. This game's leveling is absurdly fast no matter what. There isn't even any travel time either since you teleport around.
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>>497389752
>WAAAH PVP HAPPENED IN A PVP GAME
>WAAH IT LOCKS YOU OUT ALL NIGHT
>BUT ALSO WAAAH THE NIGHT ISNT LONG ENOUGH
shut up bitch

>>497389485
no i think the abyss is the only one, which becomes more relevant the more floors unlock
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Is chat not working for anyone?
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>>497389941
>zoomer
Try again. Nothing to do with levelling either. Sounds like a lot of projection. Its the design and quests, just feels like 90% running through open space
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>>497390082
Your first "mmo"?
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>>497390027
retard
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>>497390070
dead on benny at least
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>>497389752
lol what kind of retard is farming these dungeons before 50 anyways?
and what kind of retard that doesn't want to pvp is going into a pvp zone?
holy shit man can't believe you've been seething about this for hours.
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>>497390125
3 strikes you're out
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>>497390385
>lol what kind of retard is farming these dungeons before 50 anyways?
The game literally sends you there at mid 20s to do your codex shit so you can get the blue set accessories and shit.
>and what kind of retard that doesn't want to pvp is going into a pvp zone
??? I do want to PvP. Getting oneshot by 50's who have no business being there has nothing to do with PvP. Last time I got killed by a group of 50's while fighting people my level.
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>>497390347
everything you said was complete fucking nonsense

a lone 50 ganked you and because of that all the 50s ignore eachother?
no nigger, groups of 50s sweep through and try to clean out the entire dungeon at night and two mid sized groups clashing is fucking kino
this mmo aint for you if you can't handle that lil zoomie
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>crypt just unlocked
>see literal endless stream of people going in

guess i will do it later
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>>497390592
The only mid sized group of 50's I saw was camping the gate killing newbies who tried to zone in while PvP is active.
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>>497387291
different areas give different fish types, im still testing out spots to see if some give better loot than others. I feel like weather/daytime affects it too.
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>>497390629
it will ALWAYS be turbo populated until the game dies or further dungeons unlock in a few days

it drops WAY too much good shit
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>>497390769
you literally can not zone in at night in the abyss so...
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>>497390942
Yeah that's what I'm talking about? New players who get sent there by the game have no idea so they try to and get flagged and oneshot by retarded zoomers.
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>>497391037
nigger the pvp zone is hugging the gate that is closed and you have to sit there for a minute to actually flag up
you sound like a retard right now
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>>497391134
Jesus Christ can you stop making shit up for a moment?
>people get in to do their quests
>pvp activates
>they get killed by retarded level 50 zoomers
>they obviously run back and try to enter
>they can't but they're still flagged
>get killed again
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>>497391245
you dont stay flagged retard

you get flagged again if you go back into the pvp zone which at night is literally only 1 foot in front of the gate
so if they sit there for a minute after the game tells them they are in a conflict zone wondering why the door is closed and can't figure it out maybe the game isn't for them
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>>497391365
>you dont stay flagged retard
Yes you do and I was watching it happen over and over.
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>>497391245
How is this a problem or bad? Sounds like good game design
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>>497391445
okay retard, this game isn't for you maybe XIV is more your speed. I hear they ban anyone that dares correct the smoothbrains in that game.
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Imagine defending gookslop "pvp". Those mongoloids ALWAYS somehow manage to get their playerbase griefed into oblivion since they ALWAYS end up making max levels face beginners in one way or another.
I still remember another NC slop, Aion where you got rewarded with epic pvp gear by literally farming beginners first stepping into the abyss to do their story quests.
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>>497390231
you can reroll bad traits.
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>>497390792
yeah but its a waste of time when you practically look for open spawns since the spawn rate is alot slower than for trashmobs, gonna do it early morning or at night
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>>497392001
get a better group that knows how to tag mobs

>>497391245
shut the fuck up you stupid fucking retard nigger jesus fucking christ
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>use the party board
>no one accepts my application because I'm sns/gs queuing for dps
Is the difference in dmg with gs/dagger or the other dps classes that high? It's just a shitty dungeon. I have had more luck with random matchmaking than this ""elitist"" shit.
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>>497391968
not worth it, only worth selling a good trait to upgrade other weapons
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>>497392693
Dungeons are so easy you can whip your dick out and clear them just fine.
You're just dealing with retarded zoomers.
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Does food that gives +50% EXP not work on fishing? I tried caught a largemouth bass with and without the exp food buff and it said 132 xp in chat both times.
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>>497393034
You need to cook fishing exp food.
I don't even know why there's a leveling exp boost at all in this game with how fast everything is.
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>>497392693
you're a tank spec queueing for dps
you're what we call an asshole
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>>497393480
You don't even need a tank in this game.
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>>497393480
I'd agree if dungeons weren't piss easy and tank role wasn't so overcrowded. I'm gonna keep queuing as dps to get shit done
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DEAD GAME
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Is anyone on Benny able to use the chat?
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>>497393998
and I'll keep kicking fags like you
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I'M 4 HOURS INTO THIS CAVE OF DUNGEONS RUN WE STILL HAVNT CLEARED FUCKING HELL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>497394040
Now post XIV's player count, this game is only for PC while XIV has the majority of players on PS4/PS5.
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>run the 40 dungeon 3x
>all 3 times get the fucking crossbows
I WON'T DO IT I INVESTED IN BEING A TANK I WILL BE A TANK!
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>>497394148
I'm gonna hook your shit up what's your ign
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wheres the heckin amitoi house?
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>>497394347
not sure if trolling or serious. well done.
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deadass? fuck benny
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>>497394519
You can tp to it by clicking on your funny Pokémon friend's icon to the left of your consumables hotbar.
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>>497394519
its on your action bar but THEY NEVER TELL YOU
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>log into wow to level an alt
>think about playing this janky piece of shit Korean slop the entire time
Idk what kind of subconscious brain wash media they put in this game, but I think about playing it every time I am not playing it.
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>>497393998
just throw on a dagger and fake dps
you'll still be griefing but at least you'll be in a group
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>>497394793
playing wow in nearly 2025 definitely means you are a cooked brain tard im sorry
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Remember to vote for the EU swap
https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QDAYly8
https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QDAYly8
https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QDAYly8
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anyone wanna erp
but not fucked up this time
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I like how when you clear Chapter 5 or whatever Sophia is like
>wow you haven't joined a guild yet?! that's crazy
>you should join a guild
>go see this guy across town who will tell you how amazing guilds are
So I open the guild menu and every guild is-
>hc pvp online 12+ hours per day mandatory
>discord
>request invite in discord
>discord mandatory
>casual and laid back, invite in discord
>discord is a must
>cyrillic and even worse, french
No thanks Sophia I think I'll just keep playing solo, thank you.
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how is their auction house so fucked jesus fucking christ
i have never seen such a dysfunctional piece of shit
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>>497394931
Shield damage isnt as bad as you think
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>>497395936
I joined a guild that advertised itself with

>join just for the benefits
Nobobdy bothers me
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>>497395132
how did you guys narrow it down to these two?
that one steam thread says adrianna is gercuck/ruscuck/italocuck and the other server is not listed
we really need to decide where to go though
peferrably a server without russians (lag and retarded), without frenchies (retarded and illiterate), without gercucks (autistic and retarded) and without non whites (retarded and retarded)
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Like half the healers you get in dungeons barely do any healing at all, I heal more with my greatsword buff ability
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>>497396486
I literally soloed the first dungeon's final boss as GS because everybody else died.
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>>497396683
>if there's not enough people to soak the aoe you die
sure ya did, champ.
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>6h maintenance's every other day
>auction house still doesn't work on EU
>you can't even use the fucking chat
>it's been a week
wtf?
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>>497395132
by the way it days max tranfers have been reached for zenith
me personally i think basilisk sounds the coolest
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>>497397398
the auction house is dogshit on NA too
how can this game be so smooth elsewhere but they cant even get this working when all the whales are buying currency for it
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>>497395961
slant eye niggas dont even know how to program a menu
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>pillar statue nigger boss in gate of infinity
>grapple hook never fucking responds and you have to stand on a magic pixel to actually grab them
holy fuck whoever designed this better have died in a car accident on the way home that night
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>>497389575
NTA but I did all of that and hit Level 50 in 2 days
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>>497398103
ok neet
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>>497397991
yeah the grapple is utterly retarded which is stupid because the ranking for that nigger is also absolutely free as fuck for my class combo
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>>497398189
>try using grapple
>i get stuck on 45 pixels of terrain
>finally use it
>fly 50 feet in the air past my intended landing point
>take insane damage on landing
who designed this shit
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>>497354170
my understanding is that somebody has to get the item, turn it into a lithograph, then sell it on the AH
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>>497398390
inb4 bro just turn into a bird. that is not the point.
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>>497398103
Who the fuck asked? Fuck off disingenuous nigger.
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>can't bake bread
>can't bake guild
>can't bake shitposts
>can't bake
based general
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>get party full of spics in dungeon
>can't clear
F2P was a fucking mistake
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>>497399750
Just like in WoW. Fucking spics from Azralon, Ragnaros, Drakkari, Quel'Thalas. It ruins the fucking game.
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if you are a cuck and use discord, if you go on the official server and search for "english server" you will get the urge to uninstall
as usual eu is trash and unplayble
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>>497398390
gooks who can't code on UE4
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>>497398390
oh i figured it out after another try
you have to untarget him completely when he jumps and then you wont be stuck auto attacking him if you're ranged
he jumps, i untarget, jump down then grapple immediately to get back on the platform and then retarget to cc
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>>497399484
Such is life when you're too busy playing
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>>497399894
what happens?
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Trying to do the mystic portal/mystic globes for the weekly mission, can I only do 5 a day?
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>>497400164
Are the mystic keys even worth it before max level?
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Are the Undead Slaying weapons worth anything? I assume you would only take them for the abyss farming.
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>>497400164
yeah you're bricked

you can get them randomly from guild contract participation rewards but good luck
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>>497400276
it's only worth building pvp gear. maybe that will change when m+ and raids are added in the future.
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>>497400041
you see a trillion comments of people asking which EU server is English speaking, some literally asking 10 times in a row, with no answers
some of them asking im bronken English too which is kinda funny
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>>497400276
only if they have good traits on them and then only to sell traits
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So you just get killed at a boss at the wrong time and if the boss dies while you walk back you get nothing?
what's even the point of killing players?
If it was GvG and players were competing for the boss I would understand, but this is just retarded
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>>497400256
yes they always give the same rewards
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>>497400737
lol retard
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i started emergency bake but i have 300s
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what does the end game grind consist of here?
are skill upgrades infinite?
character level card cap or soft cap lile bdo?
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new bread

>>497403443
>>497403443
>>497403443

new bread
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>>497398394
Nah i figured it out, go menu>craft>armor>side tab/lithographs, you need 40 special resistance medals that drop from wbosses etc.
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>>497402762
>>497403480
>no anime girl OP
do you want the general to die or something?
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I'm surprised how seriously people take this game. MMORPGs don't strike me as a "competitive" genre, like mobas or fps slop
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>>497395936
transfer to Ember and I can invite you to my guild where you can do whatever the fuck you want



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