>AboutThrone and Liberty is a PC and console MMORPG offering a mix of tab target and action combat with a shared emphasis on both PvP and PvE. The game features a seamless open world, adaptive weather systems, and a shapeshifting mechanic that lets players transform into animals for exploration and combat strategy. The game uses a free-to-play model with various microtransactions; cosmetics, convenience items, battle passes, and more. The Western publisher, AWS, claims to be aiming to avoid pay-to-win mechanics while enhancing player customization, choice, and experience.>Build siteshttps://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guideshttps://metabattle.com/tl/TL_Buildshttps://throneandliberty.gameslantern.com/builds>All items and informationhttps://tldb.info/>Which server are we playing on?NA East, Lottie; Guild vidyapassword 69420EU, Benny; Guild PettanPrevious: >>497300945
>>497403443isn't OnlyFeet another guildVidya is full is Vidya2 started
so this is the power of Vidya....
the hermanos have taken over lottie bros
>>497403443hello newfriends.
Man I'm almost capped and I have so many green skill books, considering dumping them into Dagger skills so I can play GS x Dagger but Idk if it'll be worth it
>>497403996Don't care about fag shit.
>tfw sub 3k cp pleb
when does xbow get good
>>497404093if you need to, use them to make blue ones otherise might be cool but mastery is such a bitch
What to use star crystals for other than salt?
Anyone else having prob with Shadowed Crypt "blue" quests as in they not completing when doing certain task?
>>497404150what are you using it with
>>497404150https://youtu.be/dAW_5yMAPIU?si=v3MUbBqfpg10vOxfwhen you do this
EUBROS WE NEED TO PICK A SERVER TO MIGRATE TO
>>497404150never. wish I swapped off it sooner.
>>497404448dagger. i'm not 50 yet but levelling feels like i'm hitting 100 buttons just to kill 1 thing
>>497404639go to Adriana or whatever
I've not been able to use the chat for like 4h now
>>497404093Makes sense to get an off spec for better farming or solo ability imo
>>497404702>>497404660idk i'm loving xbow/dagger, but then you have other anon here who hates it
>>497404702that never changes.lots of setup and your attacks do nothing without all your buffs active.other weapons will deal damage on each skill cast.
>>497404916This game takes quite a lot from older NCsoft games like L2 and Aion so you can notice semblances between the classes from different games.>L2 dagger classes either do 0 dmg or crit and oneshot>L2 2H melee has insane HP and ton of AoEs
>>497405136idk crossbow dagger reminds me of retail wow.your skills do nothing outside of your cooldowns.at least they're not 2 minute cooldowns though.
>>497405231To actually crit as a dagger class in L2 you have to pop multiple buffs.
>>497405231in PvE, if your rotation is right and you piano well your cooldowns are almost always upin PvP it's more of a burst and disengage than constant dmg
>>497404704alleged rus/ger/ita serverwe should do basilisk
This is what my fresh lvl 50 char looks likeShould I focus on getting blue gear, perhaps via crafting now?I am assuming I wasted too many enchants on the quest reward gear as well
>>497405763All EU servers are overran with frenchniggers and autistic krauts that don't speak English. Add turkroaches into the mix and we're set.It's over.
>>497406113No they're not, just roll on any EA server
>>497406165EA?
>>497403443>loot drop is proportional to dps dealt>healers get no loot
>>497406086>50>using mostly green gearWoah, so this is the power of zoomzoom. Bet my ass my level 25 is stronger than you.
>>497406289traited greens are better than untraited blues
>>497406248Early access
>>497406113well on Zenith which was the other suggestion the top 5 guilds are Hungarian, French and German
>auction house still fucked on EUAmazing.
>>497406289Isn't vanilla blue mostly trash?
>>497406542Reminder we had a 5 hour maintenance on the biggest primetime possible for EU to fix it.
>>497406435can we transfer to ea servers?though it does not let you>>497406516guys just do basilisk trusti have a feeling
>>497406542>auction house is not working on the weekend of release>the time where they game will have the most players and hype willing to spend moneySAUSAGE
>>497406837polish your sausage.
>>497406750People that made a server on EA can't transfer to launch servers, but everyone can make characters on EA servers or transfer to them.
wow could never
>>497406086its fine just dont waste on the purple upgrade the other stuff u can just transfer when u get something better idk your class looks like bow dagger or some shit
>>497407717it's fine to upgrade the other stuff* just dont upgrade your purple chest cuz its gay and you'll replace it
>>497407717thx, its staff bow, the baby class
>>497408064same bow/staff heres mine 4 now having aids luck with drops still
>>497406086>>497408417why are you people using a level 0 purple chest piece instead of a level 9 blue?
>have good luck>but it's actually bad luckkill me
>>497407306holy hell there should have been atleast 3 different 50 open dungeons unlocking at the same and even then they would all look like this
When will we get t2 gear?
Just started this game and the skills feels like ass, the whole 2 sets of weapon system is god awful, and I bet there is not much to it either either you do the meta weapons together or you troll
>>497409075wow you just explained literally every mmo skill system ever
>>497403443How do you expect this general to grow if you aren't even going to use a hot slutty picture for the OP?
yo can you transfer more than once?i wanna go scout basilisk outi feel lile its the one but i dont wanna get stuck with a bunch of ziggers
>>497409554About to try transferring back and forth actually
>>497408520idk i had a green one when i finished story haven't gotten any dropwise
>>497409554
>>497410182craft green ones and feed them into your lithograph collection book to get a blue one.you should do that with weapons too so you can have 2 blue weapons.
>>497410273cant read all of ghis right now
This game is actually so much better with the chat off.
>>497409554we are getting transfer tickets every day until the 17th
>>497403996Are there any off-meta debuff builds you can go destroy metafags with?
>>497409554I transferred twice in a row just fine now. In my case I transferred from Lottie to Chianghone then back to Lottie. Guild cooldown is reset each transfer
How's my first purple drop bros....
>>497411081every build is weak to one thing or another. there's no single build that is good against everything else. you can have melee resistence but be melted by magic
>>497403996What decide which weapon you attack with? I feel like a lot of the default keybinds are troll, do you ever really "swap" weapon or use the auto attack bind?
>>497411380Your 'equipped' weapon decides what your auto attack is. This is important considering for, say, dagger+gs you want to auto attack with your dagger for poison/thunder stacks
>>497411282except sns/wand beats everything
>>497411232Not bis, dissolve
>>497410438noted thanks i do have 2 blue weps from that
>>497403443If I level traits on my weapon and wanna transfer the exp to a better weapon, I lose all those upgraded traits?
>>497410691this top tip >turn off world chat>turn off party finder chat boom no more zoomers retards or chinese gold farmers yappin
>>497411081>>S Tier - 1337 Tier>play this if you want to have a good time.>>A Tier - Dagger Tier>play this if you require stealth.>>B Tier - Niche Tier>situational.>>C Tier - Snowflake Tier>you're a special snowflake.>>F Tier - Griefer Tier>do not do this.you play to counter melee or ranged. one build doesn't win against everything.>>497411380whatever is active. you'll notice one of them in the middle of your action bar showing dominant, or in your character screen (P) you'll see one of them is a much larger circle. you can micromanage on like dagger+crossbow for example, swapping to dagger when melee and back to crossbow at ranged. unneccessary though. typically just pick one based on your build and forget about it. skills automatically use the correct weapon without changing your active weapon.auto attack is useful for pulling.the default binds are very bad.
>>497409554>ziggersTaxi, airport, plane, Ugledar, trenches, NOW.
>>497412049that's my custom chat. I only enable it when I'm in a dungeon though or actually trying to have a conversation with somebody.
>>497411972yes
>>497412049just change to guild chat
i just bricked my character. i got system request error and now i cant login anymore lol
3rd time trying temple of slaughter, chill job as tank but my party keeps wiping, rip
>>497412049>turn off party finder chatretards misusing pfchat for party chat and raging at each other when their dungeon run is going poorly where I can read it is half the fun of this game
>>497412913>someone gets marked>they hug the boss>nobody pulls the chains or goes to the platform>in 10 runs in a row even after explaining
Is it just me or are some "ultimate" skills much better than others? Like this one is so bad compared to the GS attack one, the GS is so good, scales so well and then there's this one that's just so weak
>>497412730if you spam enchantment too fast with the esc skip button you get shadowbanned i think
>>497413547>all your skills are level 2odd numbers are breakpoints ahhhhh!!!
Do I dissolve all my unused old equipment that I'm not using and aren't going to level? Some say keep everything, some say don't. I seriously don't get how I played this game for 5 days and I still don't understand how anything works. How can the in game fail to teach you literally anything? It's such fucking complete dogshit design.
>>497413547GS is just absurdly broken as a whole and fun
>>497412502true but if you turn off the other two you can have party and guild chat at the same time without interruptions >>497413182this is a fair point
>>497413628so... im just banned now? i cant login anymore
What koretard thought it was fine to transform into an animal while running?I want to see my character running not some furry animal.
>>497413547Upgrade it to Void Blade in it's passives and it's one of the better AoE attacking skills for SnS
>>497414050To be fair, furries are from the west.
>>497413628what the fuck are you serious? why?????
>>497414416idk but it was nice until it lasted ggs guys
>>497414416>>497414032yeah you guys are permabricked now better luck next time chuds dont be exploitersno obviously not their servers are just dogshit chat doesn't work AH doesn't work nothing works
do the traits from your offhand apply to your mainhand and vice versa?
>>497414416doing something too fast = speed hack
>>497414231Takes so many spec points tho, and the CD is so long and clunky to use.Nearly any other GS skill is better to use for AoE
>fishing can give you trait unlockstonesholy shit im bricked for not doing this sooner
i jorked too fast and they banned me
>>497414738do your stats change when you weapon swap?
>>497412730restarting my pc, starting a new char, then switching worked for me lol
>>497414875wtf
>>497414875I've been fishing since day 1 early access and gotten 1. It's a really really low dropchance
>>497415075>he didn't spend his first 1500 contract coins on purple fishing rodmight as well start over
>fish>spend 3 stamina bars trying to drag fish left when it goes right>lose>rinse>repeatshame the fishing in this game is dogshit, won't be doing that
>>497415401its annoying how they can escape for no reason but other than that I've seen much worse
Who decided this game needed fishing anyway
>>497415235I have the platinum fishing rod anon
>fishing general
>>497415590one of the senior boomer dev for sure
>fishing rod out>white monster in hand>https://youtu.be/Iu81WUG9OeU?si=0DCZlgrKqr3JWx0W on repeatyep, fishing time
>>497411490SnS gonna be nerfed into the ground one day and it will be glorious to reap all the tears
>>497415590It's a Lineage game, anon, be glad you don't need proof of catching fish for enlarging you are inventory
for the lvl 30 dungeondo you stack to soak the fireball? or does the marked person get far away and you block the fireballs?
>>497415810>Language not supported.
ive never fished
>>497415915they run away and people take turns blockingget used to never clearing that dungeon until all the mouth breathers quit the game
>>497414892this unironically fucking worked wtf lol
>chat is back>first post i see is some degen RP guildFuck
>>497416087update, now the chat doesnt work. this game is so fucking broken holy shit
>log into my character>game immediately crashesfuck you, bezos
i honestly think if this game had a real crafting/trades system similarly to archeage with integrated pvp events since we already have node/siege pvp here too then it would be 1000% worth a long term playbut sadly gooks literally go 2 steps forwards 1 step back constantly with their MMOs because they're stubborn slant eyes who refuse to copy each others innovations
>>497403443I still can't believe people are actually playing this game, and unironically praising and defending any aspect of it no less
>>497405136This game is like if you took L2 and removed every last bit of soul and everything that made it good
Thoughts on this always being maxed?>get 500 from doing co-op dungeons>passively get them through the day and at midnight>items that grant you even more tokensEven if you farm 8 hours a day in a free open dungeon you still couldn't go down.
>night time hits in SC>start hunting groups and winning a bunch of 1vXsfun as fuck
>>497413263ye pretty muchi gave up and went to deaths abyssWAY easieralso rerolled to dps lol
>>497417571Go to ants dung
>>497418486It's full plus I don't want to put 10 hours per day into it just to go SLIGHTLY negative into tokens.
>>497417376L2 gameplay was pure shit at its core. What made the game good were the community and all the guild dramas.
>>497418823literal unironic skill issuejoin a fucking group
I'm always out of fucking sollant.
what servers do I avoid transferring to
>SNS/Greatsword both get nerfed into the groundthe game is now amazinguntil then, nope.
>>497417081>refuse to copy each others innovationsHaving basic character trade option is hardly an innovation yet here we are.>>497419156Those in the OP.
>>497419073Why would I join a group? Is this a skill issue on YOUR end?
>>497419280retard.
>>497419412Sex issue.
>sns/greatsword>tankiest in the game by far>most damage in the game by far>most cc in the game by far>most mobility in the game by farhow do koreabugs constantly fuck balance up so badly?if this game was made in the west by devs with higher intelligence than chinksects it woulda been pretty good.
>>497419237Just max out melee evasion
>>497419703GS/Xbow is better for mobility, damage and sustain.
>>497419280>why would i get more loot more tags and faster killsi dunno man, you tell me?
>>497419898>this F tier build is better than the SSS+++^9umnyo
>>497419902Post tokens.
do not talk to my duodo not make eye contact with my duodo not send friend requests to my duo don't even come across my duo in random partiesdon't reply to my duo posts and dont give my duo any attention I don't care if you can't tell it's her posts you better fucking learn to read themI'm warning you, you won't live to regret it, she's MY duo and she's MINE and ONLY mine and JUST mine and ALL mine
>>497420041>I can't read skill descriptions and just follow zoomer guides instead.
>>497420126okay man you go pvp with your snowflake build /me pets you and ruffles your hairgo get em tiger
>>497420101no one cares simp
>>497419703balanced games are not funkoreabugs mess up in other aspects such as comfy + soul
>>497420086I only do 20 mins every other day or so to keep them from overcapping because I'm waiting for the next dungeons to unlock so I can spend all my blue contractsyou're just retarded man i'm sorry. I can 2 shot things in shadowed crypt but it will never be more efficient than going in as a group
>>497419703>retarded gook streamers says "THIS CLASS IS THE BEST SSS TIER!">everyone rolls it>another western streamer discovers that C-tier class is actually SSS tier>now everyone plays that onethis will happen
>>497420707no, SNS/GS and SNS/Wand is so fucking broken that even koreans can't fuck that one up
>>497420515>he spents hours trying to lose tokens and pretends he only spends 20 minutesHow about you try losing your virginity first?
don't brick yourself get your ERP emotes NOW
>>49742091220 tokens per kill makes it go by fast as fuck when your group is tagging and killing 10 mobs every minutekill yourself retard
>>497421110>20 tokens/killYup, a shitskin who doesn't even play.
>>497420707westerners kept the game alive in kr. more than half the players were from the west.
>>497421268you're right it's 22 sorry man
>>497421475>there's a part 2 of the cooking quest line that makes you cook morefug.
>there's an actual pvp trinketwait whatfuck
>want to farm some meat>theres an event onokay I guess not then
>egirl gm and her inner clique hoard all the boss drops to themselves
sounds awful, come join vidya and you won't have to deal with that!
>everyone in this general whining about having to be social in a SOCIAL GAMEso i guess everyone in this general is a socially retarded zoomie
>some retard whale actually bought these useless pieces of shithahahahahahaha
>>497420292i know u added heri know u think im weakim not weakshes mineALL mine only mine forever mine never yours back off???
>>497421992>basic pvp tool>takes ages to craftSasuga Kim.
why is salt like a 1/50 drop on trash mobs only
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You know... Amazon would make a ton of money if they let us pay to win the dungeon coins. Like 1 coin could be a dollar.
>>497422593When EA servers can transfer out to it I might join but for now I'm stuck on fucking Amos
>>497422767battlepass shop
>>497423639do not...just fucking send expeditions
Is the combat even fun, flashy or anything
>>497423692There's nothing else worth buying in there though.
>>497423808brick sis...
>>497423761For me it was kinda janky at first but now that I'm into my mid 30's level it's actually pretty fun and fluid.
>>497423913>buying trait extraction stones from the battlepass shop
cooking is way too fucking hard to get materials. Almost level 40 and only level 3, cant even finish the chapter 5 book
do traits unlocked on green/blue armor carry over when upgrading?>>497423913a little salt doesn't cost much 2 will get you like 5 levels
>>497424083more conversion stones but sure
>>497424087>he didn't buy the battle passim swimming in salt what is the reward for high cooking anyway just a better food buff? can you even sell this stuff
>>497424435you can sell good crafts afaikand yeah pvpers will want it but most large alliances will have their own supply
>>497424435its not the salt but the megarare tertiary mob drops
I'm pretty sure you can buy everything from the Battlepass shop since after you complete the 50 levels you get a 1:1 conversion from blue crystals to yellow crystals
>pve and pvp build completey different>limited upgrade skill and gear materialsso i guess i have to choose which one i will suck ass in and be gatekept? what a fucking trash game design this is
>>497425145PvE is piss easy in this game, everyone gears for PvP.
>>497425145build pvp if you have ANY interest in pvppve is an afterthought you can build for when you're done with pvp
How to upload a character from a pic or QR? I suck, can't create anything good
>want to be a healer>barely in demand cause everyone just has wand
>>497425145You don't need a PvE gear set, your PvP set will be more than enough.
Can you replace a starting trait?
Is there anyway to get rid of this weird character light?
Do level 50 skills start at epic/purple? or green as all others when you unlock them
>>497430381they start at epic and need their own books
Why is Yarrick trying to groom Sani
I am having fun.
I'm also having fun.
>>497422767go farm the crabs on the beach near starting city.
Sorry, I am new. What is a good thing to spend Ornate Coins on?
is it too late to start now?
>>497432297yes it's too late, eos is approaching
>>497432273Buy out the pouches, growthstones and skill books.
>>497432297yes all the cliques have formed you wont last long playing alone
>>497432297Game is already dead, just wait for POE2.
>>497432297Yeah, we're all waiting for Ascension WoW: Chapter 3 launching October 10th now
Is the northern half of the continent already open in Korea?
>>497432429damn the pouches can throw free blue gear at you skipping the crafting/litographs farm?
>>497433646Epic even, I was wearing an epic armor from the very start.
Is Syleus Abyss meant for solo? Or do you find a party to join so that the loot gets shared
>>497433337I waited for this and then you tell me to wait for something else? I did this last time with New World and I never get to play.
vidya2 bros...
>>497434307join a party for all open dungeonsit literally has no downsides unless your group is retarded
>server shutting down soonEA cucks on suicide watch.
>>497434660is there like an lfg board for that? i only see matchmaking for instanced dungeons
>>497435863nope you have to be social and use chat
>>497421590thats actually the next part of the fishing quest
who said this game have no cosmetics
>>497435190please dont tell me US servers have no maint tongiht FUCK please
>>497436312>you can rp as sophitiayes yeeesss
>>497436312base game outfits look much better than the cash slop
>>497436846Thankfully the Korean version doesn't have utterly ridiculous shit in the cash shop (yet). Most retarded options would be xmas outfits and a bikini. I hope they keep it this way.
>>497425145>play tank>have one skillset for it>play dps>have one skill set for it>you have one other skill set, for open world or pvp, and cannot have more skill set presetsfag design
>>497436706Amazon said its shutting down permanently. To make room for NW servers.
>>497436985They also need to add a transmog option for ingame gear and enable dyes on it.
Press F to laugh.
>>497422195>female leadergotta be retarded to join such a guild
>>497436846thats a good thing, idiot.
>>497437507It would be but>>497437136
>>497437336imagine how overworked the employee who put this in was to find it funny
>>497437336
The devs know this is a dead game walking.
>hit max level>have to swap to SnS/Wand to better survive big pack pullsThis is pain and I hate it
>>497439272Everyone is already leaving and going back to their main MMO
>>497439487What? What are you normally playing?
>>497439272lol that's pretty funny
>>497439575Dagger/Staff
>>497439680>zero defense or sustaingee
Fishing gets me malding like nothing else ngl
>>497439575SnS/GS, I can usually deal with huge packs but going deeper into the undead sex dungeon I'm starting to make whoopsies that I can smooth over with Wand healing.
>>497440114brother just party up...a bownigga can sustain a group that isn't being retarded by themselves
>>497439680>>497439789oh no. i am also playing staff/dagger and now i am worried. It must be very difficult to change skills weapons armors
>>497440483Eugh I guess
>>497439487>>497440114>not oneshotting the pack or just crowdcontrolling themthis is not the way