Life support edition>Latest patch (Hotfix 3.1)https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696782040358852369>September community update:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/93-september-community-update>First developer Q&A:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/84-message-to-the-community-a-first-q-a>Roadmap:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4238536974144553830>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - compilation of Dudes and information on how to submit themhttps://rentry.org/dudewallsm2gPrevious: >>498000318
>>498121156yeah, get in there, harvest his seed
J2ZPC 2/3
I genuinely hope Apothecary is the last class added.
I am fortifying this thread.
Jannies clean it up
Erebus is my hero
>>498121259I MADE THE THREAD NOW JOIN
There's currently 3 generals up now. Which is the real one?
one man,two men,three men!three men! thats all i can spare!AH AH AH!
>>498121714>The janny undeleted the threadWhat is bro doing
>>498121352>Necron Immortals not Majoris>No Eldar weapons platform majoris>No Tau XV25 Stealth Battlesuit majoris>Warboss, Exarchs, and Lychguard being WAAAY too far down the powerscale>Wraith not extremisHonestly a pretty bad roster list.
What are the solo class combos again?
>>498121992youre going to need to rephrase
>>498121352Too much work, even then Saber will be pigeonholed by Gays WorkslopThe next enemy will be Nurgle/Khorne with Orkz being back
It was 1000% not worth it.
>>498123287it gets its combo finisher off the fastestwhich only really feels nonshitty against terminus and rubric marines
>>498121938the chart was mostly made by comparing stats to what we already have in the game and that felt like what most units would end up as.>No Eldar weapons platform majoris>Necron Immortals not Majorisit's not an exhaustive list but feel free to add them man.the goal was to give everything race one melee and one ranged minoris, one majoris, two extremis, a terminus and a boss.>No Tau XV25 Stealth Battlesuit majorisI was on the fence about whether they'd properly fit as majoris or just a boss mob.>Warboss, Exarchs, and Lychguard being WAAAY too far down the powerscaleI don't know what to tell you man, exarchs and lychguard aren't that strong, exarchs especially. tyranid warriors are objectively stronger. most exarchs get stomped by tyranid warriors. wraiths didn't seem that strong from what I remember, but I don't have the stats on hand.warbosses often lead sizeable portions of a waaagh, so there's a decent number, and it feels safe to say the lesser ones are terminus-tier if you compare them to other terminus enemies we fight. putting a warboss there is mostly reaching to give the ork roster an ork on foot in the terminus category, same for the autarch in extremis.
Scythes of the Emperor looks so fucking stupid on Vanguard
>>498122129What are the class combinations during offline mode.
>>498124067anythingyou are lucky if you get sniper
>>498124067With tactian you get bulwark and sniper. With heavy you get assault and vanguard. I think it's based on the teams you as you see them during the campaign.
>crashed with the gene sneedits fucking over
>>4981247186AYX6
>>498124713It's random. I got Vanguard and Heavy once as Tacti on Inferno
>load up an operation>get in>black screens>"host migration">boots me offline because the game decided to make some brazillian on his dusty xbox the host
You have Captain Diomedes.
>>498125043No, you did not. I always, without fail, get bulwark and sniper. Every time I've actually come to rely on the bulwark bot using his banner so I can regen armor.
I have faced more fearsome tanks.
>>498125125you blood raven fags should post less and play more. I met one for the entire day and he didn't even respond to knowledge is power
>>498125125I wish someone would release a mod for SM1 that would let me start the game with a stormbolter and melta. Because goddamn does SM1 take forever to give you something other than the sticky bomb launcher.
>>498121352>Howling Banshee>MinorisBro, just throw in some Storm Guardians and you've got your ranged and melee minor enemy. A Howling Banshee should be at minimum a majoris enemy. The Exarchs could all be extremis, with something like a Wraithlord being a terminus level enemy.
>>498125332Do I really have to pause my goon session, fire up an Inferno match and take a screenshot to prove it to you?
>chaplain gets released>it’s leandros How mad would you be
>>498125497ABSOLUTE
>>498125497Why would it be Leandros, he's part of Titus' squad.
>>498125567don't think so. more like he's Titus' new commander.
>>498125391ITS IS THE BANEBLAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>standing in an empty corridor with a wall behind me>mobs spawn in from nowhereShit game
>>498125471Here, Vanguard and Bulwark. So it's random.
>>498125567>>498125643Titus becomes a member of Lord Calgar's personal retinue at the end of SM2, to join him on some mission. Leandros tags along for reasons unknown.
>>498125447>storm guardian minorisfair>howling banshee majorisI guess if you were reaching it's not out of the realm of possibility?>exarchs could be extremisI'd say a lot of them are definitely not extremis material
>>498125939If a Thousand Sons Rubric Marine is a Majoris level threat despite having generally better stats than your average Eldar Aspect warrior, I'd say it's a fair comparison to make a Howling Banshee a Majoris threat as well. You could make a Dark Reaper the ranged version, or a Dire Avenger a mixed threat who weaves back and forth into melee/ranged attacks. The Extremis version can even be extra gay and either go full melee variant or dual shuriken catapult ranged.
Didn't even know it was possible to get 2x Extremis and a Terminus during a massive wave but here we are
why lil uns no take greg to krump uge bugs?
>>498126242At this point I am expecting Lethal to spawn two Terminus at once, imagine fighting 2 Neurothropes surrounded by smaller Zoans.
>>498126242terminus enemies only spawn based on pre-determined trigger points in levels with a % chance, so your teams own fault it even appearedextremis always have a chance to spawn and gain an extra chance to spawn if backup is successfully called, also your fault
>replaying the second campaign mission to get the lictor achievement>[TITUS] Thalasa, the Cadians are running out of time. How close are you to the promethium facility?mfw
>>498125830I was mistaken, but not wrong. It's actually always bulwark and assault. I just restarted the mission twice to confirm (I put on a different helmet to prove it). The odds of getting the same team twice is like 30 to 1.
>>498126090I thought about it a little and I believe it's more reasonable that exarchs would best fit as majoris but they're always accompanied by two or three matching aspect warriors.aspect warriors as minoris is too harsh but exarchs as extremis is too generous, having one or the other would be a bit strange. having them both show up together at the same time as majoris seems like a decent solution.
>>498126396Yfw you spent 5 seconds listening to the audio in a game and realised the operations were the oppressors in the game? Are you fucking retarded or just a zoomer
>can't go a single mission without disconnecting halfway throughanyone else have this issue? really fucks me off
>>498123481>statsHere's your problem. Tabletop stats make for shit comparisons and in-game about nothing actually fits Tabletop balance.>the goal was to give everything race one melee and one ranged minoris, one majoris, two extremis, a terminus and a boss.Every faction doesn't have to be the exact fucking same.>>498125939>no invul saves taken into account>no weapons taken into accountIshygddt.>>498126090Aspect Warriors all should be Majoris. It's Skub but Exarchs should honestly just be better looking and slightly better versions but still Majoris. Think Adrenal Gland Gaunts. You can give them abilities they don't have on tabletop but have in lore easily, other games have done it before.Warlocks and other assorted psyker guys for all possible factions should be significantly higher than their statlines would indicate. Psykers are serious business in lore, they are just really limited in what they can do on tabletop.Personally I'd be looking at Warp Spiders, Howling Banshees, Dire Avengers and Dark Reapers, maybe Striking Scorpions as surprise perfect parry 3 times in a row or eat stagger. Swooping Hawks could also be fun, Gargoyles didn't get in but you could have Swooping Hawks (and Vespids for Tau) as hovering ranged enemies akin to Zoanthrope but shitty.Dire Avengers also absolutely need to have Sashimonos.>>498126541I've played with AI Sniper and Heavy. There might be madness to them repeating if you play multiple missions (or crazier yet, player-dependent) but I don't remember ever playing with AI assault.
>>498126541I also got Bulwark and Assault right after (I changed my helmet because the roman one doesn't fit on a BT).
>>498126389>pre-determined>your teams own fault it even appearedWut
>>498126686Dire Avengers being moved to Elites was a dumb as fuck move. I love those models, one of the better redesigns Eldar got.
>>498126697you moved past a terminus trigger point while you had a massive wave incoming or spawnede.g. your fault
>>498126832Right. Anyway.
>>498126694Here we go, Assault and Heavy, no Bulwark.
who the fuck actually cares abuot what bots you get no one here actually plays solo with bots right?
>>498127139Yes I do.
>>498127139>no one here actually plays solo with bots right?I play exclusively solo with bots, since my real friends are addicted to LoL and won't try any other games.>Play with Anons hereNo offence, but I like playing at my own pace.
>>498127139>playing with pubshitters>playing with threadshittersshiggy-diggy
>>498127139If I must, I will. Most of the time I try not to, bots are still pretty retarded.
>>498126618oppressors? is that some kind of a new primaris unit?
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>>498126686well I can also look at games like dawn of war but a lot of eldar units honestly weren't that individually powerful in that game either. warlocks were just squad leaders for guardians, and aspect warriors were mostly mid-tier units roughly equivalent to majoris.it's not like howling banshees have incredible weapons that are going to make them stomp tyranid warriors either.basically any time eldar have to be objectively measured in some way there is a massive disconnect between the lore that jerks them off and their actual stats. I don't think this will ever be different unless you get a game where you only play as eldar and nobody else.
>>498127227>playing
>>498126686P.S.>Every faction doesn't have to be the exact fucking sameit's just basic variety, not having an enemy in each category would be unnecessary and make them feel incomplete, it's nice to have a couple terminus and extremis
>>498127321>like dawn of war but a lot of eldar units honestly weren't that individually powerful in that game eitherYou did not play dawn of war if you can say this with a straight face
>>498127254JOIN
>>498126372I hate when Neurothropes spawn. Last match, I had one spawn and call down a thunderstrike on me just as I started an execution. I lost all my health right away. And you can't run from them, unlike with those pussy carnifexes that can't jump or fit into small spaces. God it feels good when a Carnifex spawns and I just take an elevator out of there.
>>498127704I love Carnifex because you can just hug a corner and he gets confused and just stands there so you can BLAM BLAM his face
>>498127704Honestly, the Nid enemy I hate the most (aside from Vinenidders, fuck them) is the Ravener, sometimes it just spazzes out and slithers around like an autistic snake
>>498127704I much prefer neurothropesIf you're in a tight area and carnifex spawns and it rushes you while you're near a wall the hitbox lingers and can hit multiple times even when it isn't in contact with youCan easily almost down you in one from full health and armour when it happens
>>498127529I did, I played it for many yearsthey really weren't that strong, at least the infantry wasn't
>>498128158Then you should know how unbelievably wrong you are. That howling Banshee for example can get up to a 62-89 attack rating with a 95% accuracy whilst using power weapons that ignore heavy Infantry armour (read everything end game).Compare this to the boys you posted that had 47-60 at 65% accuracy.Eldar were broken beyond belief.
>>498129369nah man they weren't that strongthey were made of glass and crumbled if things actually started landing hits
to all my bulwark and assault niggers that would rather plink away with their pistols, fuck you
>>498130064>plinking away as a bulwarkFuck that, I'll die in melee like a real man
>>498130064Melee barely does damage against that thing compared to my Relic plasma pistol
>>498130064I keep trying to throw my sword at the Heldrake but it doesn't work
>>498130064>he’s not chain-gunstriking itgit gud
>>498130064its criminal that you cant gun strike this thing when you parry it
>>498130504You can't do that on the Carni either because they don't stagger from parries at all
ayup, thats a crash
>>498129886Again, wrong. Banshees go to 870 hit points and Boys go to 442 with Infantry high armour
>>498130690Just post code again
>>498130715let's be real. DoW 1 ran on esotheric numbers.nothing makes sense
>>498130759it was a quickmatch game, so no worries there. but its funny how that giga thunderhammer hit just kills the game
>>498128158>>498129369>>498127529Dawn of War suffered from notoriously inaccurate, if not flat-out wrong tooltip info (like Farseer's Guide ability) or doesn't even go into specifics (there are six different infantry armour types). Use this website if you want to find out the real damage/ability valueshttps://warhammer-guide.ru/wiki/Howling_Banshee_Squad.html#Power_SwordThere's also no such thing as "ignoring armour", each unit does roughly what's specified in the dps section versus each particular armour type, with the only variation being accuracy but it all averages out in the end. As for the Eldar in general, they were considered to be a top 3 race in DC/SS. Then again, I haven't played either in over a decade (and didn't play base game/WA in multi) so who knows, maybe the meta has shifted based on the findings of the handful of people who continue to play it and not any of the mods. The "Dawn of Eldar" article you can find on 1d4chan (now 1d6chan) has a lot of things right but not all.
>>498130918And nothing I've said has used in game descriptions as truthful. What is undeniable is how stupid powerful Eldar were.
Real Salamander skin when
>>49813117Who cares, just throw on a helmet. You are not one of those helmetless freaks, are you?
>>498131059Again - unless you're an active player I'm going by my memory as someone who played 3k games in DC/SS. Back then almost nobody used Howling Banshees, every other infantry unit was better and they didn't need to use melee (except vs Tau) thanks to Fleet of Foot > Falcons. The only worthwhile melee Eldar infantry were Seer Council thanks to its sturdiness and cd reduction on abilities but it wasn't unheard of for Eldar to completely skip training Farseer.The upgrade you posted is laughable compared to what other races get, btw (CSM, Tau etc.)
>>498131550>Back then almost nobody used Howling Banshees, every other infantry unit was better and they didn't need to use melee Yes anon, that's proving my point. Even a unit stop stupidly buffed compared to other units in the game weren't used because Eldar, a broken faction, had even better choices.
I don't wear a helmet.I don't need to be able to project onto imaginary video game characters by removing their face.
I make Decimus wear a helmet because he's a nigger
>>498131721I wear a helmet because I'm not Calgar and so I'm not being carried by a daot invulnerability shield
>>498131721>I don't wear a helmet.why? the helmets look cooler and make more sense than the bare face
>>498131718But the banshees weren't a "stupidly buffed unit". I already mentioned Eldar were a top 3 race (and there was a gap between the top 3 and other races), I'm just chiming in specifically to point out:>DoW tooltips were garbage>Banshees are a wrong unit to use when highlighting Eldar's strength
I wear a helmet because I like helmets
>>498131905I highlighted it because that's one of the 4 he posted. I didn't use the tooltips for values.
I wear a helmet because if an accident occurs during my work and it is found that I was negligent by not using my provided PPE for the task I will not be entitled to compensation.
I am sort of starting to like the Primaris helmet bros, I am starting to slip
>>498127139i leveled sniper & heavy mostly solo with bots. had a streak of getting into rooms were both were taken & getting connected to games in brazil or something with awful ping
>>498125275>warlocks are statistically speaking(and going by past game depictions) very solidly in majoris.>>498127321>warlocks were just squad leaders for guardians, "Just".Comparing statlines (like you do) Zoanthropes are Warriors with a shitter save. The offensive abilities, wargear, passives and Invul just gets lost in the translation. Admitelly Zoanthropes do spawn in pairs in-game but that leads me to another point - you could just spawn enemies in groups. It would probably warrant looking into executions balance but there's nothing really preventing some unit from being weaker than a Tyranid Warrior still being Majoris if there's more of them in a squad. At the point you're adding a new faction and considering the amount of effort it requires making it so perks tripping on Majoris executions/kills without cooldowns also get cooldowns is really a minor tweak.Warlock could easily be dangerous not because he's tanky or deals a lot of damage but because he makes all Eldar around him move even faster and makes you move slower like he sort of does on tabletop. And this is before you actually give him any sort of offensive or advanced defensive psyker powers he has (had, 10th was especially rough on some psykers) on tabletop. And then there is lore, roleplaying games and simply inventing bullshit.As for the picrel, I feel various Grav-Tanks some factions get could also be used as enemies because they can just float sort of like -Thropes and you get to pull a Tau out of his vehicle and throwing them far away. I thought about Riptide but it's probably just slightly too big and ranged-focused. Voids would be natural pick but they also don't exist.
YT292Ruthless
>>498132084the helmet is not the issue with the primaris. its the boots & bare midriff
>>498132368You're confusing primaris with phobos
>>498132245>Grav-tankI feel this would be very janky with executions. Could absolutely work as Terminus though, if the maps they're made for had arenas fit for them. As Extremis the chance they spawn in some shitty place they can't get out of is too high, Zoanthropes already bug out far too often.
>>498132454NTA but Tacticus and Gravis aren't that much better. Ankle balls skub aside, they only have some small shitty plates covering the midriff while rest of the abdomen is exposed.Abdomen and groin area on Primaris is the worst offender of all other design changes to them.
>the assaultnigger won't stop dying again
>>498132597Hey it's not my fault that I have a chance to instantly explode any time I use the jump pack after having used a krak grenade
>>498132664It is, you chose to use the perk that's bugged
>>498132739It's funny.
>>498132664just dont use krak grenades
New update leaked, they nerfed the melta even more
>>498132739it can still happen even without the perk
>>498133308only the melta rifle is good though wtf
>>498133308Nerf plasma and auspex they make bosses too short
>>498132818>being a burden cause le heckin random so funny!Kys
>>498132368>the boots & bare midriffit's not that either, it's that the kits don't come with a variety of designs on top of the standard equipmentsome beakies and mk8 helmets here and theresome bonding studs for pauldrons and legs here and thereone or two pieces of armours full of rivets instead of neatly interlocking platesscrolls and seals aplenty in the kits
>don't play for a week cause tired of disconnecting and crashes>see in hotfix notes they've 'fixed several crashes'>disconnect 5 minutes in to first op
>>498133308And?
>>498133323Nah that just stuck to the floaty head things that were coming from behind you
>>498133785he threw the kraks well before that clip
>>498133785here it is being triggered by a cultist grenade
Imagine working hard on the Artificer and Relic shoulders, only for people to ignore them and use the green or grey ones.
>>498134196here it is being triggered by a barrel (no the tzaangor was not stuck)
>massive wave>be Vanguard with Instigator>Chink Tactical types in Engrish to slow down on executes as the other Jap/Gook Bulwark just cleaves through Warriors>as he finished typing he dies to Venom sniper shots>says something on the mic and quitsWhy do people care about execute """stealing""" again? Especially in a large wave? If you're out of armor it's a skill issue.
>>498134196>>498134341Goddamn why is this game so broken
>>498134341here it is being triggered by terminator missiles (no this tzaangor wasnt stuck either)
everyone is talking about suicide bug, what is it actually? I haven't touched Assault yet
>>498134717here it is being triggered by what appears to be a friendly grenade
>>498134457its still better to leave executions open for a bit. the enemy is no threat anymore and can be used to evade stuff/replenish armor/contested health if anyone needs it.
>>498134915its not just assault, but the "damage at liftoff" talent seems to increase the % chance of it being procced. baiscally if you ever throw a krak grenade you are at risk of blowing up randomly
>>498134915it's a bug. it makes you die. you can choose not to trigger it. people do anyway. what else would you want to know?
>>498135059what the fug, hasn't happened to me yet, but that sounds retarded. the worst I got are GET DOWN MISS OBAMA or blowing up myself via a friendlies melta bomb
>>498134915assault's ascension perk is a trigger for this: >>498133323 >>498134196 >>498134341 >>498134717 >>498134943they are essentially ghost duplicate kraks that might materialize and stick to yourself when you throw them without you knowing but they need a trigger to set them off and kill you
i will note that I have played dozens of missions of assault with the ascension perk and not exploded, the only reason i believe is i dont really use kraks at all
y'all are using grenades?
>youtube switched from recommending le lore and BIG NEWS GUISE youtuber videos to recommending me vtubers playing space marine 2damn nigga leave me alone
>>498135516I use normal frags to fuck up my allies whenever they fight in melee.
>>498135516yes? they are fun
>>498135516i dont play russian roulette with krak grenades but i do dump loads of frags into blobs of majoris and melta bombs on bosses
>>498135516>be assault/bulwark/meltaretard>zoanthropes spawn>krak one open>it dies>me smile
>>498135538embrace the vtumours anon
>>498136032>here is girl with big cleavage, oops her panties slipped out! she will be spending an hour talking about her day as she "accidentally" jiggles up and down in a hot tubI already don't watch this, why would I watch>here's a gamer girl, but she finally has enough makeup on (complete face obfuscation) for you to think she's prettywhy would I watch this
>>498135538yov vvill simp for the anime grills or else
Lethal is released. One life only, when you die, your class is deleted and you start from level 1
>>498132245>>498121352Do GSC, DE, and Votann.Complete the set.
>>498136226>start from level 1yes! we need a way to reset character levels/perks back like we can with weapons.
>only matchmaking>people who "just want to have fun" (standing around pretending to be snipers) are mixed in with people who play "competitively" (rage when they lose a point)>time between games is somewhere between 1 and 3 minutes>games can be over in 2 minutes with a bad team-matchup>no autobalance so if 2 people from the same team leave, the game is a onesided snorefest>constant crashes of netcode even with an impeccable connectionThe PVP in this game is fucking fun but so fucking cooked. It's like 50 seconds of fun on a rollercoaster after a 50 minute waiting in line time and sometimes the rollercoaster breaks or the line resets.
>>498136242>Complete the sethow could he complete anything when he has no understanding of the factions he's talking about and the ones he covered already have glaring flaws
>>498136341>It's like 50 seconds of fun on a rollercoaster after a 50 minute waiting in line time and sometimes the rollercoaster breaks or the line resets.so like every online game with a queue regardless of whether it even has mmr or not?
>>498136168>Watching for looks in the first placeHave you considered simmering down on being a coomer
>>498136343He's clearly a fan of both Tau and Eldar which makes it extra weird that he doesn't seem to know much about their actual units. Must not play the actual tabletop game.
>>498136168anon, do you not understand the concept of vtubers?i get you are mysoggyknees-ick but cant purely be the motivation behind this dogshit post
>>498136507>watch another person play videogamesOh, I also don't do this. This is for brown people.>>498136564The concept is you take a girl gamer and you make her palatable. That's literally it. None of them have ever actually stuck to their gimmicks/acts.
>>498136338You can do that by navigating to your save folder and deleting the relevant file.
>>498132245using spawn numbers to determine positions gives significantly more leeway in determining enemy classification, yes. though saber has shown with the ravener that they may also just buff a unit to an unreasonable degree and shove it into a higher tier.but either way I am not really convinced warlocks shouldn't be majoris. majoris are supposed to be relatively common front line combatants that usually fight with groups of minoris, and I think, in addition to their stats, warlocks fit that perfectly. just make them unusually strong majoris that are somewhat rare and border on extremis.I think proper tanks are a bit too unwieldy and large to be a regular enemy that just spawns anywhere in the map, but most of them are also not strong enough to be used as bosses. they're best used as special units in specific levels, friendly or enemy.
>>498136730>Oh, I also don't do this.I don't do it either, I just use streams for background noise.
>>498136773i feel like they would prefer to use the newer stuff for necrons, so the scorpekhs, ophidians and stalkers
>>498136807I also don't have asperger's.
>>498136902>baiting on 4chanI think you might have something worse instead.
>>498136473>so like every other game with a queueDo you even read posts you reply to?Also,>others do it too!Retard take below the average mongoloid IQ
>>498137089yes they are all shit games, what's your point?
>>498137054That's not bait, that's a diagnosis.
>>498136242I don't find genestealer cults a compelling group of opponents outside of space hulk and I'd rather purestrain genestealers be a tyranid majoris, maybe extremis.dark eldar make me shrug and I don't know enough about them to even try.I really don't care about the new dwarf guys at all.completing the set would also involve making at least one imperium roster for a future operation(s) where you play as chaos(like the old chaos exterminatus map). maybe the other guy would like to.
>>498136763I would like to be able to play as level 10 to carry an anon who just bought the game on threat average, then switch to 25 to do a golden armory data run with pubs, then a level 21/green weapons ruthless run with friends. I mean yeah, I could make a backup after every level up, but hey they already implemented a reset button for weapons, why not have one for the level.
>>498137216>that's a diagnosisI agree, I hope you get better soon.
>>498136564do you not understand the concept of vtubers?parasocial relationships with a fake persona, like other streamers, but people that consoom shit like that think to themselves stuff like "i know its all obviously fake, so its ok right?" and "this foxlady has bouncy tits lol"vtubers are a big sad step in the devolution of our species.
>>498137387not very clever, 1/5, apply yourself
>>498121156>brother let me heal you!>punches a chainsaw through your face while drilling your jaw
>>498137190>all shit gamesNot all games have this ratio of wait time to play time. In case you didnt notice all the numbers making sure that the quantity of shittiness, not just the quality of shittiness was important>what's your pointthat youre a retard who thinks this is in any way defensible game design while games with dedicated servers existed within our lifetime.
>>498137242Genestealer cults should be an enemy type in SM2.
genestealers would destroy space marines
>>498138120a lot of things destroy space marineshelbrutes destroy space marineschaos terminators destroy space marinescarnifexes destroy space marineshive tyrants destroy space marinesbut we're special "named" space marines, so we get to kill all this shit without being instantly turned into red paste and ceramite dust. genestealers would be no different, nor would they be close to the most dangerous thing we kill(hierophants in the near future).
>>498138041agreed
titus should suplex a norn queen
Sniper rifles should be removed the game.Keep stalkers and marksman bolters, but the sniper and the las fusil got to go.Or give the heavy las to heavies like in SM1
>>498138120What even is a genestealer? How big are they? I was under the impression they're as big as xenomorphs from the Alien series. Also that they are just sneaky cunts who like to french kiss other aliens and implant an egg in them.
>>498138860they are a tat bigger then hormagaunts, so small infantry. if i remember right they are about as squishy but are really deadly in melee. they have broodlords as leading elite, wich is the same in bigger, a bit taller then a space marine.
>>498138860genestealers are a MEQ on tabletop and a squad of them will easily butcher a squad of marines if they get into meleetheres a reason terminator squads get sent in to deal with them, and even then its risky
>>498138860Genestealers are an unusual tyranid biomorph. They're about as large as a terminator.They infest space hulks and use those to spread, infesting curious ships and ultimately aiming to infiltrate a planet and secretly create a genestealer cult that will destabilize society and rise up to aid any invading tyranid hive fleet.They are relatively quite dangerous, pretty durable and even pose a significant threat to terminators in melee combat.
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>>498138860in the lore, genestealer claws can go through ceramite like a hot knife through butterthey're beasts in close quarters>Genestealers were harder to kill than ’gaunts. Their bodies were toughened inside and out to withstand combat. Their armour was thicker, their organs more deeply buried. The lower pair of arms carried huge, human-like hands, capable of ripping away a Space Marine’s helmet in one strike. But what made the creatures most dangerous were their upper claws, a trio of conical spikes with monomolecular edges. No other tyranid biomorph was more suited to tearing through ceramite. Even the thick plates of Terminator armour offered little protection against a well-placed blow.
>>498139376Just blow up the space hulk, lmao
>>498139573That's often the plan.
>>498139745Just blow up the space hulk from outside, lmao*
>>498139820If it's small enough, that's often the plan.
>>498137887Yeah dawg the narthecium isn't there for marines who are going to make it
>>498139820If you have to fire more heavy munitions than the terminators than might as well just send in the terminators
>scythes of the emperor all got tongue punched by genestealersfucking lmaoimagine playing as this chapter
>>498140101Blood Angels also almost got annihilated by genestealers, didn't they?
>>498139376>They infest space hulks and use those to spread, infesting curious ships and ultimately aiming to infiltrate a planet and secretly create a genestealer cultyeah right. if the end goal was to infiltrate planets you'd think they would use a more suitable vector than scary wrecks that phase in and out of hell drifting in outer space for centuries. I think GW tried a bit too hard to consolidate completely different alien races into a single, sellable army.
>>498140101I mean it fits the setting
>stop paying attention to the hive tyrant to kill the mobs that spawn in>both my teammates somehow manage to die while my back is turned even when the only thing they had to worry about is a boss with highly telegraphed attacks
>>498140341>second phase begins>stop paying attention to the hive tyrant to kill the mobs that spawn in>before you're done, the end cutscene starts playing>what_the_fuck_just_happened.jpgjust play with anons
>>498138860>What even is a genestealer? xenomorphs with diamond hard claws capable of opening terminator armour like a tin can, hypnotic powers and the ability to kiss-rape someone into servitude and start a multigenerational innsmouth-like cult of hybrids for themsome also spit acid, or are better armored or armed, or have camouflage and/or have the same mouth tentacles that can eat memories as lictors, and a fucked up few can alter their morphology at will like venom or the guy from prototype >How big are they?they vary from the size of a firstborn marine to the size of a small dreadnought a lictor is generally scarier than a genestealer, but genestealers like to make nests in claustrophobic environments and attack in way larger packs
why is the imperium utterly obsessed with skulls
>>498140804HUMAN skulls only
>>498140101Genestealer kisses make you into a Chad because the idea is that you'll get more pussy and spread the infection. This doesn't work on space marines since they don't fuck, and on top of they they started wearing special helmets that block out any connection to the hive mind.
>>498136564>you are mysoggyknees-ickYou calling anyone else's post dogshit after typing out that fucking cringe garbage and ALSO defending talentless losers roleplaying as anime avatars to take your money is the saddest thing I've seen in a long time
The next class is gonna be a speed freak so the chaos variant can cover slaanesh, right?
>>4981408048 reasons
>>498136730>None of them have ever actually stuck to their gimmicks/acts.I feel like Kiara and Pikamee did.
>>498141085How do they knit those faces together and into metal parts?
>>498140804even the most humanoid races out there have skulls different from a proper manso a skull can be a symbol for mankind as a race but it's also if not mainly a symbol of martyrdom, the emperor's, the soldier's and the faithful's
>>498141085I hope they add a Chaplain desu, Bulwark already fills the role of healer so Apothecary can come later. And if you really need an Apothecary when the game is already this easy then you are dogshit and should remain in substantial.
>>498136773Autarchs still make no sense. At this point I'm sort of more accepting of Warlocks being Majoris, but it's more the issue that the only "Leader" archetype, Lesser Sorcerer, is Extremis. If they were Majoris they'd still need to be relatively rare so there aren't squads of them at all times (which are possible but as Farseer bodyguards, not some random schmoo squad).XV95 makes no sense as boss. I don't think you could even squeeze a commander in there. It's literally a Lictor equivalent. Coldstar can at least be fast around the battlefield and could have flying first phase.>>498136508Ironically I don't like either. I'm just talking about them right now because I didn't have time to criticize the rest of the thing, but throwing units that are rare lore-wise but also Characters/Standalone HQs as normal guys is pretty fucking weird. It's also just retarded to take tabletop as absolute and applying it to other mediums while disregarding lore because that just won't work. Only thing I have to say is still absurdally wrong about Necrons is that there ain't a Canoptek Tomb Sentinel as Terminus there, considering it's literally in the game as scenery, picrel. Put that there, throw Lord to Boss, remove Overlord.
>>498141085slaanesh gets a surgeon in opposition to the imperial apothecary
>>498141085Did they ever say they were gonna introduce a new class?
I heard Assault was bad. So I am levelling it second after Bulwark. Turns out being melee is not an issue and we had 3 sperate Zoanthrope spawns and a Neurothrope. Pic related level 18 with a purple thunder hammer and heavy bolt pistol.The little Xbox buddy kept hitting the wrong button and spawning massive waves + extremis
>>498140804Because Man is beautiful, and death is glory
>>498141214They haul back their trophy kills to their daemon worlds or ships where they keep their slaves, then force them to carve them up into wearable accessories for them.Some of the slaves could be quite skilled chapter serfs that know all about managing astartes armor that they acquired from raiding space marine ships or outposts.
>>498141467They said the want to, specifically in reply to someone asking for a medic class, and there's the precedent in world war Z for how they kept adding classes even years after the release, but otherwise they have announced nothing properly.the most reasonable classes they can add are apothecary(/slaanesh surgeon), chaplain(/word bearer apostle), and librarian(/thousand sons sorcerer)
>>498141085SM3 should be Titus and gang against EC>You will never be a woman, daemon>Sees a bunch of EC Muhreens gangraping SoBs IGs and random citizens along with daemonettes>Girlyman and Fulgrim show up
>>498140804Even in death the Human form is the height of beauty. Even our bones are more aesthetic than other races. The human visage cannot be overcome no matter what horrors try.Also the Empire of Man in WHFB is based on the HRE and they had units like the Death's Heads Hussars who wore a skull and bones on their hats and heraldry and are pretty famous, like the winged hussars for the polish. Warhammer was made by educated, upper middle class history nerds who thought they looked cool and flanderised their setting with that flavour. Imperium of Man is an extension of this. aesthetically at least. In every other way the IoM is the ERE in decline. Don't let modern audience faggots fool you, they probably do not even know when Constantinople fell.
>>498141695Techmarine?
the next class will be primarch
>>498141554assault is not bad, it really takes off at lvl 22 or 23.imo vanguard is the weakest class.
>>498142158it doesn't really offer much compared to a heavy or one of the other classes with a gimmick with armourbest I can picture for a techmarine would be locking it into a gamemode where it could interact with something >siege mode where the defender techmarine/warpsmith can fix and mantain bunkers and turrets while the attacker gets to tend to the artillery and tank>dreadnought gamemode where the player doesn't control the dreadnought itself but a techmarine/warpsmith that babysits it and directs it around
>>498141364XV95 is about the size of a hive tyrant and possesses survivability approaching that of a hive tyrant, it's faster and it also has tech giving it camouflage in place of the hive tyrant's psychic protection. It's not really far off and presents a good opportunity to have a fight involving a lot of stealth suits.tabletop stats mostly work fine because I looked at the units already in the game and found their stats are usually pretty comparable if they're similar units.
>>498142795Make him summons class throwing down Tarantulas and idk fucked-up immobile Rapiers for Chaos. Worked for Last Stand.
>>498143437Fighting tau mechs could be like in Mech Warrior, where you focus on blowing off the parts that are dangerous first.
Should I replay SM1 now that I've finished with SM2? I haven't played SM1 since the PS3 days.
Brothers I am so sick of being matchmade into a game that already has the class I'm trying to level. Just put me into games without that class, Saber, what the fuck
>>498144729It's too bad we can't have multiples of the same class in a match. Imagine the cheese strats.
>>498144669You only set yourself up for disappointment, gameplay in 2 is much more elaborate. On the other hand, I feel like the plot in 1 is much more straightforward and there's less conflict between characters
>>498144729Just host your own games by choosing a mission and immediately stepping into the deployment zone. People will stream in eventually and you won't have to deal with the bullshit of someone else playing your class.
>>498144934600% auspex damage buff
>>498145115>gameplay in 2 is much more elaborateBlue = Parry. Red = Dodge.At least you can carry 3 primary weapons + pistol in SM1.
>>498145330>3 assaults>every meleeshot is a 1shotbut lets not kid outselves, people would just stack tac. what are you going to do, hide behind a iron halo behind a iron halo behind a iron halo?
>>498145776Yeah, tell me about how deep the melee system is in SM1
>>498142229>Entire match is you doing a poor job at conflict resolution>Last 5% is you dropping PlanetSide and killing the boss in one melee swing
>>498146593I don't remember much, other than the chainsword feeling better than the power axe.
>>498142229Next class will be Veteran and be a firstborn with extra equipment
>>498147195that doesn't sound like it advertises primaris
The next Class will be Cawl and it'll be totally useless until you find a specific cryopod that houses a female Space Marine.
>>498143437Tau supremacists genuinely want you to believe this.
>>498147334>The next Class will beprobably a Techmarine or Librarious but hopefully a Chaplain
>>498145843>what are you going to do, hide behind a iron halo behind a iron halo behind a iron halo?That was actually what I thought of first. 3 heavies going back to back to back and becoming impervious to ranged damage on all sides
space marines are mary sues
>>498147491It'll probably be something that's easy to animate and balance. So either Chaplain or Apothecary with Techmarine and Librarian last.
>it's another vanguard who can't parry, ignores all stims, and has already been downed once finds the genesneed, pings it, and picks it up immediately anyway before anyone else can get to it only to get downed in the next room episodeI'm starting to think they do it on purpose.
>>498147671No
>>498147836Why ignore stims?I've seen a Chink Vanguard just bumrush through the entire level and he didn't even pick or even ping stims
>its another underlevel PC player going down and taking loads of damage in melee and screaming at me and the other guy who are doing just fine over voice chatI'd disable crossplay it didn't slow matchmaking to a cawl.
Next class should be a guardsman. Like just a guardsman. No armor, 1hp, and a lasgun that does 0.5 damage per shot.
>>498148005Shut the fuck up, console shitter.
>>498148045The leak "playable" lasgun was unironically better than bolter damage-wise, just innacurate as fuck.
>>498147998I don't know either. Maybe they think they're leaving them for teammates and don't know you can check to see that everyone else already has some
>>498147321Sure it will, because it will suck ass
The only reason to add Tau to this game would be to add enemies that explode on contact but since Chaos Cultists already fill that niche there's no need.
Are thunderhawk pilots also space marines? Do they have special armor?
>>498146982That's because it was even more shallow than 2, which at least has the parry/dodge system
>>498148048mad cause dead
>>498147408it has the same toughness as a carnifex(one less than a hive tyrant), wounds equal to a hive tyrant, armor equal to a helbrute(one step worse than a hive tyrant) and it can become invisible. I honestly think that's pretty close. it's very tall if it's standing upright.it's probably the largest battlesuit we can reasonably fight directly, though being able to kill a hierophant means there is genuinely no battlesuit beyond our ability to kill(even up to a KX139) if we get creative.
>>498148757They're TechmarinesThere's also serfs, servitors, Mechanicus and normal people inside They also don't count to the 1000 Battle Brothas
>>498148005I find anybody who is retarded enough to unironically fight over platforms these days is almost always a massive gigashitter.Huge grade school energy.
>>498148045and a rickshaw. We totally need a rickshaw class.
>>498144669Yes, SM1 is great. Orks are a much better enemy than Tyranids, the boltgun in SM1 is superior to all the bolt rifles in SM2, the voice acting is much betterAlso SM1 was based on a much better game, Gears of War, than SM2 which is ripping off the new god of warsSM1 is the better game
Bulwark getting auto-execute on a "perfect" parry is OP along with healing yourself.Meanwhile Assault gets nothing, you're either going for the contested health build or lose ground poundmaxxxing.
>>498149582>be badAssault pumps out the highest damage numbers per game short of melta spammers.
>>498147491What would a Chaplain do that's different from Bulwark>>498148045>0.5 damage per shotLasguns more powerful than bolters?
>>498149641>Assault pumps out the highest damage numbers per gameDoesn't matter, +10 extra points are irrelevant.Ground pound should have autoheal in relation to the number of shitters you blow up.
>>498149645Arch-heretek cawl forgot to sabotage IG lasguns by putting pointless spinny things on them.
>>498149645>What would a Chaplain do that's different from BulwarkA lot? The only new class that'd be similar to Bulwark would be Apothecary.
>>498149139>Ghostkeel ~twice the size of XV25 in art>XV25 slightly taller than Fire Warrior>Ghostkeel supposedly as tall as Hive Tyrant>Hive Tyrant three-four Marines tall in-gameFuck Battlesuits, as it turns out Fire Warriors are taller than Primaris.
>>498147671not really. every chapter (besides blueberry boyscouts) have glaring flaws. they are also pretty scary since they are supposed to be those monk like educated war poets, but most of them are basically overgrown children with booksmarts and superhuman strength. in the first 20 legions alone you had so many fuckups, my favorite fuck ups are the night lords. they are hilariously incompetent.
>>498140263The Genestealers have super AIDs so they can just infect someone and nobody will ever know once they slip through the cracks. The space hulks are just places that cannot be contained so they are always an infection vector.
>>498150271CRAWLING IN MY SKINTHESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL
>>498149927>Melee guy with pistol>Some kind of aoe buffCan definitely see your point
>>498150271I refuse to believe that chapters like the World Eaters, Death Guard, Night Lords, Raven Guard, Space Wolves and the other freaks were meant to be normal.They would have become Thunder Warriors tier eventually.
>>498149582poundmaxxxing is gaining ground though. assault can burst better then bulwark, can reposition easily and while it can´t heal it still provides better contested health regain via the 50% meleeshot teamperk (people getting hit via orange cycle and then parrying the following blue cycle is really common)i´m not arguing that assault is better then bulwark, bulwark is the best melee class easily. but assault is far from bad.
>>498144669I mean if you want. SM1 gets boring really fast. There are literally no mechanics beyond pressing super when your HP gets low. Besides that you're just mashing melee and face tanking everything, rolling every once in a while
>>498149994it does seem like an XV25 is about as tall as a space marine cross referencing art involving space marines and various battlesuits.XV95 is probably about three XV25s tall upright? so a little shorter than a hive tyrant probably, but pretty close.
I play all classesHeavy bolter itches a scratch none other does
>>498150271Ultramarines flaw has always been questionable loyalty. Imperium Secundus and even before Girlyman showed up they were always way too much Primarch, too little Emperor.Huron died for what Ultramarines are doing on daily basis.
>>498147836>>498147998I don't pick up stims because of the "get 10% health back every time you execute a majoris" perkIt's so good I never get downed, sounds like your Vanguards need to git gud
>>498150917>Huron died for what Ultramarines are doing on daily basis.Huron died because he was retarded
ultramarines flaw is that they are GWs poster child and the writers are forced to suck them off and make them the mariest of mary sues
>>498150782>wheres muh progression system>wheres muh simon saysSM1 is the better game. You only get bored with it if you literally are zoomer skibidi adhd brained
I played space marine 1I played space marine 22 is betterEnd of topicBack to discussing helmets
>>498149994This thing looks cool and dorky at the same time. I like it
>>498151290SM1 has better helmets. Prove me wrong.
>>498150319i don´t get it.>>498150532night lords had a time were they were actually functional, with marines like jago sevatarion entering. those types of nightlords would argue that their terror warfare overall spared lives, and its actually quite hard to disprove that. they killed a bunch of children and displayed their corpses, planet surrenders with its infrastructure intact. if you throw the iron warriors or even some less harsh legion at a planet it takes longer, costs more life on both sides and the infrastructure of the planet suffers and needs to be rebuilt.but then they got influx from streetscum and the (highly questionable) ideal of their terror tactics got lost and just terror remained.i also found it a nice touch that the night lords got absolutely bodied by the dark angels. even the word bearers, the eternal shitters, put up more of a fight vs the smurfs.i dont really remember how disfunctional the death guard were & afaik the ravenguard only mutated so heavily because alpharius pissed in their cereal bowl. the world eaters were arguably easier to work with then iron warriors, they just got really bad once angron "assumed command"but yeah, fuck the space wolves. everytime i read any lore were they are mentioned i wonder how and why they exist.
>>498151290SM1 has better helmets and customization.
>>498151383>>498151582samefag
The height thing seems so inconsistent and petty and unnecessary. Do they even still mention primaris being taller than firstborn or is that one of those things GW soft-retcons by never mentioning it again for 30 years?
>>498151054>>498150917i didn´t even know this nigga was dead. i loved him in the night lords series. great lad.
>>498148757every space marine vehicle is piloted by marinesships aren't
>>498151638I know you are just leaving bait so you can call people samefags but still. Prove it.
>>498151902inspect elementfag
>>498151702nigga isn't deadhe just got gifted an ultra rare alien luxury car by abbadon (the only other one of that kind that abbadon had he threw at cadia), except the car didn't come with the keys, so he's stuck in one place with it instead of travelling around
>>498150785>XV25 is about as tall as a Space Marine>Fire Warrior like head shorter than XV25>Fire Warior ALMOST as tall as Space Marine>Lore-wise Fire Warriors are supposed to be 5'5" manlets>Lore-wise Primaris are 8'+Marines really shrunk over the years, huh?The issue is tabletop Tau scale has been always fucked six ways to Sunday. They've only very recently begun unwrapping the issue. Like, they finally released truescale Kroot models and it's a fucking shock to people who only ever played tabletop because they went from being Guardsman sized to being taller than Primaris.
>>498151638It's true.>Armors are almost literally the same in every tier except for new accessories>Phobos is fruiter than a pride parade>No Deatwatch armor at all, despite the assets already being in the game and the gauntlet is just a normal gauntlet, except greyer.
>>498151702>>498152109Nigga isn't dead but he had died, if that makes sense. The one you see in Night Lords is him after dying. He used to be a turboloyalist who got pissed everyone is incompetent and got half his body removed for his trouble.Chaos Gods and a fair dose of Heretek and Sorcery brought him back.
>>498151182I actually didn't bring up either of those things, simply pointed out that the gameplay for SM1 is incredibly barebones. Which it is. Objectively. The multiplayer was also objectively horrible because Jump packs were completely broken and a good sniper could rape entire teams and they couldnt do anything about it. But keep pretending if you want to, I guess.
>>498151990Inspect element just tells you the same information you are seeing now. Which is post number, ID if it is turned on, etc. You telling me I got lumped in with another because one Anon ate crayons and thinks the post number in id=""?
>>498152526word saladfag
>>498152526Stop being obtuse.
>>498152526
I am Discordius.
>>498152651Browsers have a function called inspect element. It lets you see scripting and stuff on a web page.
Odd markings, these cousins of mine. Seemed eager to kill Magnus's bastards anyway.
>>498152123kroot never really seemed that tall to me but I guess I never saw art of them standing next to something
>>498152794>I suck massive cock I am a faggot I love being railed in the assThat's a very weird thing to share randomly Anon.
>>498153091im physically clapping over his bravery
Uh... Where do those cables go?
>Genestealer cults kidnap woman and bring them to a rape dungeon to grow the cult So this is Goblin Slayer in space then?
>>498153645yeahyou stupid fucking frogposter
>>498152913>kroot never really seemed that tall to mefuckers are wiry, but they have alien chimp strength coiled into those limbs
the hive mind is stupidinstead of making loads of useless gaunts why doesnt it just use that biomass to make thousands of norn emissaries or other big shitthe hive mind is galactically retarded
>>498150319>Commence standard morale boostXDDDThey should have Straban say "Bazinga"
>>498154016no, you are stupid, you already made this question and you already got your answers.the reasons are different production requirements and battlefield necessities ending up making smaller creatures more efficient.
>>498153608Around
>>498154315I never made this question you schizo moronyou know anonymous is not just one guy right? you summerfagalso your answer sucks because it doesnt apply to tyranids, biomass is biomass if it can make ten bazillion gaunts that do nothing it can just make ten trillion carnifexes instead
>>498154016a human sized door
>>498153815>old kroot about a head taller than old marines>new Kroot about a head taller than truscale marinesworks out
I hate the Primaris heavy bolter. The little ballsack ammo sack, the pointless cord going from the backpack (for what? boltguns don't need power)Straight up inferior to old heavy bolters
>>498152913The new models honestly seem like overcorrection to me, since I thought Kroot were slightly shorter/about same height than Firstborn.That being said Warhammer scale is even more fucked these days because they're also making "some" new Firstborn models, especially Horus Heresy ones literally about as tall as Primaris.Which begs the question why the fuck did we have to go through the Primaris debacle in first place if they're releasing truescale Firstborn anyway, but I guess I'm just too simple-minded and hate money, unlike Games Workshop.
>>498154615I know everyone shits on GW which most of the time I find excessive. But stuff like that makes me wonder if they truly are just washed up.Anyone who isn't a complete amateur at designing would immediately look at that and go>how exactly do five hundred 6 inch shells fit in that
>>498154673Primaris were always about bringing Marines to true scale while normifying their looks (more streamlined, easier to paint, more classic scifi aesthetic)The narrative justification was just an afterthought, that's why every character survives the Rubicon procedure even though it's supposed to be le ultra deadly
>>498155039the emperors warp powers give bolter magazines extended capacitymove on
>>498155039Where do Space Marines keep their spare magazines?
Just unlocked the one-hit kill headshot ability on Tactical.Fuck, how is this balanced? I just casually killed a Terminator with one shot of my Bolter rifle.
>>498155480its balanced by virtue of being a worse perk than others in its tree
>>498155580the others are shit as well.At least one lets me play tactical without melta
>>498155209Asscracks.
>>498155708this statement alone tells me you aren't very good
>>498155480>how is this balanced?You can only do it once every 2 minutes.
>>498153645technically, the Genestealers implant the first victims with a new organ, that changes their DNA and behaviour. The first Gen cultists do not look like abhorrent mutants, but will propagate their new genes upon further generations. Rape might be an option, but is not necessary
>>498155480Are you literally only using scans on extremis?
>>498155834No, I'm not. But I'm also not always dying to my own grenades like the other tryhards.
>>498155039Fuck logic. That's beside the point. Just think about it, what seems cooler - infinite backpack ammo supply or some shitty drum mag you have to reload?It's like they made them suck on purpose.>>498155093And the narrative was retarded and had tons of it's own problems like actually making Primaris taller because "hurr we gotta explain why model wrong size!" >>498155209They're just that good. Officially all of them supposedly have pouches and belts and whatever, but you rarely if ever see this.Unofficially I always liked to think the four exhausts on the bottom of their backpacks are magazine dispensers, linking to a storage system within their armor on the back.
>>498154673That armor looks pretty cool but we will never get it because it's not Primaris.I hate it.
>>498154016>>498154530Tyranid armies are primarily there to secure a foothold so they can gain dominance in airspace and regular space? Carnifexes not being mass produced is proof Tyranids do not have 100% energy efficiency. There you go, the answer.
>>498154673I've read that kroot are "a good half meter taller than most humans", which puts them at 7 foot 5 inches? or what? That should put them at about the same height as a firstborn, shouldn't it?Also, if fire warriors are "a little shorter than the average human"(does that make them 5 foot 5-7 inches?) and a quarter shorter than an XV25 I'm pretty sure that does mean an XV25 is about 7 feet tall, so about as tall as a space marine or kroot.
>>498155480I love this one. Wish the cooldown wasnt so long tho. Love parrying extremis and terminus enemies and then headshotting them once they get the scan debuff.
BQ77Hfuck Inferno slop, fuck Ballistic engine slop
>>498155209Magnetically attached to their armor.
>>4981563132/3
>>498155209Spare magazines are brought to them by cherubs and servitors
>>498155815Magazine out Magazine in
>>498155209As 12yo kid, I imagined myself improving this retarded design by thinking that the lower vents of the backpack were magazine dispensers. I even drew engineering graphics with x-ray showing how they would work.Now as a 36yo, I say its fucking magic dont think about it.
>go through the game and pve missions carefully checking everywhere and after completion believe I must only be missing one or two dataslates>check the cheevo tracker>I'm missing 12Time to do it all again with a guide
>>498152906Brothers can you identify what dark angels successor chapter this is? He would not say. the other dude is a deathwatch death guard lol
>>498158212>red visor with red helmetif your helmet is red, you get green optics, thems the rules, should've waited for the eye tinting update
>>498158212That's a Dark Angel from the fourth company. I know him personally. He fell in a big vat of oil and it stained his armor, and because of the Kadaku invasion he hasn't had time to clean it off. Back to the deep green that it has always been.Why is his symbol red? Please follow me down this hallway to the Interrogator Chaplain's room, he keeps a lot of literature on the Chapter's heraldry and would be happy to enlighten you.
>>498154615Old heavy bolter also has weird cables, but fuck me the ammo belt looks so good
the cables to the heavy bolter are there because it is electrically operated and stated as such in the lore
>all these fucking sick vehicle designs in the single player game>only 40k vehicle combat game is a live service ork twisted metal knockoff that died the week it launchedIs this what being a 40k fan is like? Eternal screaming into the void over all the missed potential?
gotta go fast. I wish operations Assault class functioned the same as pvp.
>>498154615>>498158528Weirdly enough, there must've been some technical hurdle they weren't getting past, because even fucking Calgar's linked bolters are unlinked outside of cutscenes.
>>498158682blame GW for thatthey like to hand out the licence to companies that make dogshit cashgrab low effort games but refuse to give the licence to any studio who could make something good
>>498154615One of the feeds seems to be coolant, the other might be some sort of power supply, maybe they are electronically assisted to boost the rof
>>498158936 I already said it's electrically operatedthere is no exhaust gas action it is fed by an electrical motor and fired off with an electrical signal
>>498158936I would assume all bolters are electronically assisted, because a jet propelled round, especially in such a large gun, would introduce complications in generating enough backwards force to rack the next round, but some bolters eject cartridges as if they're jet assisted but otherwise normal munitions, so what the fuck do I know
>>498155997>And the narrative was retarded and had tons of it's own problems like actually making Primaris tallerWhat do you mean anon, you don't like Cawl working on a super mega secret project from the time of the Crusade that improves the Emperor's own genetic engineering by making his super soldiers even more strong and tall and fast and perfect without any downsides? Oh and it was never mentioned by anyone in 10 000 years
6GTVI2/3
>>498158403It’s weird that tactical did not get a green visor helmet but vanguard did. I might downgrade back to veteran white anyway, given that they also don’t have the sergeant/veteran sergeant shoulder heraldry either for some reason
>>498158918Considering the risk factor in the videogame industry GW is smart about how they go about it. Huge licenses and titles are failing left and right nowadays. They'd have to put a ton money upfront for development, negotiate a contract with corporate lawyers, and even if the game is good it might completely bomb.On the other hand they can pay a pittance to a small studio, completely run havok on the contract, and if it fails they lose almost nothing. But if it gets huge like SM2 they make a ton of money off it for almost no risk.
>>498159252>given that they also don’t have the sergeant/veteran sergeant shoulder heraldry either for some reasonStrange because the model is already in the game. Customization really feels like an afterthought.
>>498154615>>498158528Its based on the minigun rotating barrel that requires a power source and motor to spin the barrels so it can shoot its rate of fire without melting.I assume the power supply is to have the ammunition move with mechanical components since their is no gas piston system, and a spring would not work. That is actually a good part of the design. The second cabling could be active coolant. The drum mag on what is otherwise a mounted weapon/backpack supplied HMG is the only real faux pas.There was a design from the late 50's used in Nam and onwards in very rare instances where a backpack full of ammo and a belt fed machine gun was used in combat. The idea being getting a big bastard of a man with 500+ rounds with no need to reload or be assisted since normally they are at least 2 man teams could overwhelm the enemy in mobile, overwhelming firepower.It did not pan out but Devastators and heavy bolters are just GW flanderisation much like the boltgun and bolt round is based on a weapon system that never went into full production - it solved a problem that did not exist, and had a mountain of issues no one wanted to fix.
>>498154530>I never made this questionliar>biomass is biomassnot all biomass is arranged in the same level of complexity and different levels of complexity require different amounts ot time and attention during the production not all biomass requires the same amount of exotic resources or psychic power added into the mixnot all biomass scales its effectiveness linearly on larger scalesyou make retarded assumptions and reach retarded conclusions, but you don't want to make non-retarded assumptions because you want the conclusions to be as retarded as you are
>>498159451didnt read past>liarbecause you're clearly schizo
>>498158682My dream is for them to make a 64-128 player combined arms pve imperial guard game. I want to be a baneblade gunner
>>498159401Space marine dress up is unironically a core part of the 40k experience
>>498150785>>498156165Picrel. Honestly at that point just let me fight full-on Riptide if that's meant to be a Boss.>>498159072>>498159156Bolters (at least were) supposed to be two stage, with a kicker charge (that's what the casing that ejects is for) and then the projectile with it's own motor. Pretty much how they were portrayed for loooooong time.There were some exceptions, like at some point smaller Bolt pistols were supposed to be caseless (still with a kicker charge, just without casings).
>>498159746I agree, but it's sort of lacking in the game. Hopefully future updates fix that without having us wait 10 years, but I am probably coping.
leaked next weaponvulcan mega bolter
GAUNTS, OVER THE WALL
>>498159430>Its based on the minigun rotating barrel that requires a power source and motor to spin the barrels so it can shoot its rate of fire without melting.???Where the fuck do you see that in a Bolter? Rotating barrel is an Assault Cannon, not a Heavy Bolter.>>498159430>I assume the power supply is to have the ammunition move with mechanical components since their is no gas piston system, and a spring would not work.What? Why not? Bolters have muzzle flashes, even if you dismiss kicker charges that means there's enough gas for there to be a muzzle flash, if it isn't powerful just use a lighter spring and delayed locking mechanism.>boltgun and bolt round is based on a weapon system that never went into full production Associating Bolters with Gyrojets came after the fact. I'm pretty sure GW had no clue what Gyrojet was, they were noguns Brits and Gyrojets were obscure as fuck even (or maybe especially, as internet wasn't a thing) back in the day.Nevermind that Bolters aren't 1:1 with Gyrojets.Also >Heavy Bolters absolutely need external power to fireTell that to Titus in campaign or this fella. Or any of the tons of other people who fire them no problem. Oldmarines used to do that too, the cable was described as optional back then. You can say it's because they're not Primaris Heavy Bolter, to which I respond - fucking Cawl's fidget spinners ruin everything again.
i miss 1d4chan
>>498160703BAYONETS THEY ARE ON US
>>4981607801d6chanUnless you miss loli content, in which case idk
>>498160740you forgot your pic of Harker anon
HE WAS WEAK SO HE DIED
>>498160878full of viruses
>>498159580>didnt read pastof course you did, pretending to be stubborn is better than admitting you're retarded and a liar, isn't it?
>>498161108I did.I like you knew exactly who I was talking about.>>498160740So yeah picrel.
>Having fun in Tyranid operations, multiple runs>First chaos operation, get bored and exhausted, turn off the game for the rest of the dayShould have been orks or undivided bros..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA0jY2b_QpIANON SQUAD DEPLOYED
>>498161168naw I just don't read schizo ramblings like yoursno point
>>498161230You can't lie to me, that's just a Mark 19 in a bodykit.
Gene sneed
>>498161230It was an easy guess>I need to hit the gym and buy a big sword...
>Making War Hounds>Torn between white scars white or just using wraith bone to try to match the old art>Torn between OG and Angron color swap version
>>498161241You would think they would go all in on the particle effects with the evil wizard faction but you never ever see them do actually anything neat or interesting that makes Tzeentch the embodiment of Change.
>>498162294rubric marines are kind of a joke as the chief representatives of tzeentchian marines, no mutations, no will of their own, no magic...then you remember the sorcerers, who have mutations, wills and puppet the rubrics around and it makes slightly more sense, they have particle effects on their wizardry too!
What is the deal with that stupid little shield that appears on some armours? It looks so stupid.
>>498163984You look so stupid.
1st Company Veteran, 2nd Squad. Although Antratis has a long list of successful campaigns and operations, he has never received any honors beyond his Veteran status. His Brothers attribute this to the fact that Antratis fights in a disciplined, constrained manner. Some know this is because Antratis is acutely aware of his Chapter's defect, and thus exerts extra effort to stifle the Red Thirst.Death Company. Bellaphor from his earliest days was a carefree, easy going Brother when outside of combat. He had a mind to protect his Battle Brothers, and whenever fighting started he was often found shoulder to shoulder protecting his allies first and foremost. However, like others before him, Bellaphor suddenly succumbed to the Black Rage during the midst of an otherwise controlled battle. Every since, Bellaphor has been re-assigned to the Death Company. And yet, some witnesses say that even in the midst of the Black Rage, Bellaphor will still direct his fury to those enemies assailing his allies.3rd Company, 12th Squad. Every Space Marine Chapter is made up of honorable Brothers who receive many accolades and rise within the ranks of their organization, learning leadership and upholding the qualities of their Chapter. Palmerin is not one of those Marines. He does have numerous accolades and honors for being particularly effective during combat. But he has never risen beyond the rank of Battle-Brother, on account of the fact that he's mad autistic and really just loves murdering aliens. In fact, he was at one point given the position of Ancient, but completely failed in his duties because he kept accidentally leaving the standard behind to run ahead and murder even more aliens. Many thought Palmerin had succumbed to the Thirst, or the Rage, but he actually just really loves killing.
Heavy flammer when?FUCKING WHEN!
>>498163984it's a tilt shieldchivalric tradition with the purpose of protecting the knight's face when joustingin 40k they got maintained exclusively for heraldic purposes
>>498163984Historically they were jousting shields protecting you from a lance, in 40k they are used to display heraldry and battle honours. And for minor extra protection I guess
>>498164776what did he mean by that?
>>498165004that's not a heavy flammerthat's a mmulti mmelta
>>498165004That's a multimelta, not a heavy flammer
>>498164716Based and blud-angle pilled
>Stares at each other for a minute and then leaves at the same time
>>498159601Battlefield: 40k is sadly a never ever despite it being a perfect fit.
Are plasma weapons better/worse at killing certain enemies than ballistics?
>>498138815give flamer give heavy flamer.Give storm bolter.give jumpy boise a perk to have some carbines (like they did in sm1)
>>498165919>ywn fulfill the masculine urge to bayonet charge a horde of greenskins with your brosShame
>>498165004That isn't a heavy flamer dummy
Is terminator armor planned?
>>498166209yes>>498167145no
>>498167145no
>>498165841Class conflict is dumb and needs to be removed
>>498167516This. It should be a warning, not a requirement.
Class conflict is based and need to stay
>>498167145No, nigger, stop asking
>>498165841>>498167516>>498167516Just level another class lol.
>>498167805How about i just kill myself huh ? Huh ?
>>498167805I only have one class leveled because I play only a few times a week.
>>498167805How about the Devs stop being retarded and make actual class based matchmaking, you dumb animal.
>War is but a test of men and metal and we are IRON
>>498167805If I can 4 vets in Darktide, then I can have 3 Tacticals in SM2>>498167976I honestly believe class conflict in operations shares the same rules as the PvP in code
>>498167145Yes. On their roadmap they said they're adding the campaign DLC first where they retcon Calgar showing up and actually make it Kaldor Draigo and he turns Titus into a Grey Knight.Then they're adding a second playable faction where you play as Dark Eldar, and then they're adding Terminator you fucking retard
>want to level bulwark>QP>class taken>QP>class taken>queue for individual missions instead>class taken>can't force a host on my end even when signing up for specific missions>have to keep jumping lobbies until I eventually find one where it's free>1min of loading between each of these attempts back and forth>spent 20mins without being able to play just trying to set up a gameGood design
>Prepare two classes with the same tier of weapons>Queue>Can pick either if one is already picked>No problem whatsoeverMy genius, it's frightening sometimes
>>498160819CADIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>>498168886I levelled as Bulwark first week when everyone was spamming Heavy and Vanguard, Then I levelled Heavy. I have had to level Assault and Sniper in tandem only due to my picks being taken. I have noticed far fewer tacticals running around. Might be time to level him up.
JUI2E, too lazy to wrote something cringe or funny.
>>4981700182/3
>>498170018I wonder if I can quit out of the solo mission I'm in in time.
Brothers, these new meds taste weird, I must be overthin- IS THAT FUCKING HORUS
>>498168886>everytime you want to level a certain class its takenironic isn't it?
I must be exceptionally lucky but I rarely had class conflict. Not that it matters now, I can play any class.Lethal when?
>>4981716952 weeks
>>498171695Bulwark is the last one I have that isn't level 25, so it's not that I can't play anything else. It's more that I don't want to until my autism is satisfied
>>498168886>can't force a host on my end even when signing up for specific missionsI found if you rush to the deploy square after picking a specific mission you're more likely to host a game with your class
>>498172130it used to work for me like that before the patch but it no longer does
>>498171695Isn't there an update tomorrow or am I going schizo?
>>498173287DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?
>>498172130I dunno man it seems like 90% of the time I go into loading the second I select a mission and never get a chance to run for it.
>>498158682I want a Titan game like Mechwarrior or Mech Commander, but we'll never get that either.>>498173392IT IS A GOOD PAIN
>>498173392Enemies...WE NEED ENEMIES
RTTY3
>They said big update would come this week. >Its the last day of the week!>still not hereNever trust rumors
>>498173956Adeptus Titanicus: Dominus
No 40k game has even come this close to having such memorable quotes.
>>498173956>TitanI think an Imperial Knight mecha game would be baller as fuck. Titans are so big that the game would have to get silly for there to be any meaningful threat
>>498174402No 40k game tried.
>>498174556Warhammer 40,000: Freeblade
>>498174360>>498174731The joke here is that pretty much every WH40K game people asked for exists but nearly all of them are shovelware dogshit.
>>498174731Obviously I'm not talking about a mobile game, anon>>498175117It's a true curse
Reminder people saying heavy plasma is good are deluding themselves.
>>498175643>this shitter againHere's your (You), fuck off pajeet
>>498175643>Destroy 30 gaunts in one charged shot>4 majoris in exec state in two shotLol, lmao
>>498175829>AYEEE EVERYONE'S THE SAME PERSONCope and seethe.>>498175972>gets swarmed by 2 majoris and eats shit.
>>498176018>gets swarmed by 2 majoris and eats shit.look at this loser using heavy stance with heavy plasma
thanks for the dose, doc
S93GV 2/3
>Playing with randoms, they join my game a couple minutes apart.I have seen other sons of Dorn but never a full squad.Feels good to fight with a full squad of Sigismund's.
>>498175643it's just the same as all other weapons - absolute chore to grind, then when you reach relic they momentarily become overpowered.
>>498178258>Wrong pic
>>498178484I think the knee crosses are stupid.
>>498178687I would too very much prefer face crosses and breast crosses
>>498178441Stalker bolt was fun as fuck to grind.Same for multimelta, all melee weapons and classes (thammer, power sword, etc) and las fusil.
>>498178843While its pretty awful right now Heavy Bolt Rifle was a god damn blast to level up. Still run it just for fun because its so satisfying to use
>>498176018>getting swarmed by 2 majoris>swarmed>2 majorishow shit do you need to be for this to happen
>>498167805No, fuck you, i'm playing tactical
>>498165841>>498168886The class system is stupid and shouldn't have been put in this game >>498167516this
>>498180591classes yes, but not as fixed one per team characters.
>>498179759I don't play heavy to parry. If the gun isn't useful at close range because I have to parry, then it's not a good heavy gun.
>>498182000autism, got it. fitting for a heavy.
I have leveled the stalker bolt rifle to relic (on a tactical), here are my findings>Horde clear is an absolute pain. Sure it can penetrate a bit, but you need to land headshots to actually kill anything. Plus you really don't have the ammo to be doing this, even with the upgrades. You pretty much don't ever want to fire on minoris unless its like a ranged guy really far away and you really need the scope/accuracy. Otherwise you are limited to melee and pistol for them.>The reload speed isn't super long, but it is pretty cumbersome and generally is a slight negative afaic>Majoris are sort of a mixed bag. If you can get one in your sights at medium range you can absolute delete him. The fire rate at close ranges can make it hard (hip fire with it is a joke). Chaos is probably easier as their movements are more predicatble while the nids hop all around and make you miss constantly, plus I just find their heads harder to hit but that could easily just be me.>Extremes and Terms are a piece of cake...with an auspex and them facing you. You can absolutely annihilate pretty much anything in a single mag (HT takes 2) as long as you can get those headshots. But if you are firing into the Hellbrute or Carnifex's back while it chases your teammate, your damage is pretty weak. Like, I think my pistol is comparable (though I haven't tested).>The Heavy Plasma Incen is imho generally a better gun. You basically get AoE (which often makes near-misses still useful even on single targets), greatly reduced ammo concerns, highly effective horde clear, majoris/extremis stun, versatility of making body shots, and no reloading (I find the heat mechanic superior but ymmv).>In exchange, you give up a bit of damage (I'll ballpark it at like 10-15%) in peak optimal scenarios and faster shot travel time. Its a more difficult comparison to the GL or Melta.Thanks for reading my blog.
>>498182000see you when youre crying about lethal like a baby
>>498182257yeah, very similar to my experience with it on tactical>makes you more thankful for your chainsword>majoris are EZ, but an enemy is suddenly more tanky or agressive you'll have problems>plas is much less annoying and also requires less attention for your refill perki had a lot more fun lvling HBR, and people call that one bad sometimes
Lord Calgar is pretty cool
IZAVF 2/3
>>498182289Stay mad. It's a bad weapon compared to the other two.
>>498174402Bottom row, second from the left
>>498174402SINDRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Its a shame most people, especially these two have no idea the significance of pic related...
>>498182257thats how leveling feels like. its absolutely useable, but Plasma Inc or Bolter GL are just more efficient. I think the major problem with regular Bolter weapons is just it takes forever to get rid of chaff
>>498174402>Got any games on your phone?
I want an Imperial Guard co-op game where the campaign ends with your regiment successfully pulling off a decapitation strike against the enemy commander only for the Flesh Tearers to crash through the enemy lines and mow through you as well, with the last mission being reminiscent of Halo Reach where you have one objective: survive.In the end your entire regiment is wiped out and the game ends on a happy note as the Imperium declares the planet free of xenos filth thanks to the timely intervention of the Flesh Tearers who pulled off a daring gambit and slew the enemy commander with minimal casualties.
Lobby?
>>498184906Didn't the dark angel symbol use to be red way back when?
>>498174402oldschool raptors looked so fucking cool
>>498165919>orks>ig>eldar>muhreens>tau>marines and eldar are op but have limited team sizesA balancing nightmare but it would be the most ludokino thing ever made
>>498185449I would rather play as a salamander and beat the fuck out of a flesh tearer for being an edgy teamkilling homo
>>498174402>p-please, no more hitting
>>498174402https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJMLfACod48
https://youtu.be/d2WEFlQva30?si=zKgytOeAqmU1q58F
>>498185880I see you fail to understand the Flesh Tearers.
>>498185719Yeah, but that was when they had all black armor. They still use red for deathwing.That anon is doing double heresy by painting his helmet the lieutenant helmet and also using the deathwing symbol on greenie colors.At the very least he could just make the pauldron bone
>90 hours in >only 3 lv.25 classes>only 6 Relic tiers completedI'm tired of vox speedruns
>two raven guard emblemsWhat did Saber mean by this?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOU TOO
I'm going to start leaving every game a zoanthrope appears in until they fix the beam's hitbox.
>just got every class to lvl 25 in operations>hate pvpNow what?
>>498188240they like the sneeky bois
>>498188819Take a break until new content comes out or fuck off.
>>498188819now it's time to pick a favourite legion/chapter and passionately participate in EVERY SINGLE 40k argument across the internet.
>>498188819What do you mean?Now we can start playing the game.
thanks doc
My deepest gratitude, Helix Master.
Thanks for the games, Brothers and the another two Brothers that participed in another games.
>>498190220classic
>>498190568THANKS DOC!>*clap clap clap clap*THANKS DOC!>*clap clap clap clap*THANKS DOC!>*clap clap clap clap*THANKS DOC!>*clap clap clap clap*THANKS DOC!>*clap clap clap clap*THANKS DOC!>*clap clap clap clap*
new helmets when
>>498188819Level all the weapons and get the relic cosmetics of all classes?
I wondered why meleeing as vanguard was so much better than every other class, then I looked at the talents and this hit really makes all the difference
>>498192410wow you really must suck
>>498192570fuck you too, anon
>>498188240>Hawk Lords>literally uses the Raven Guard emblem painted gold>Ultramarines successor
>>498192697I only fuck winners
>Use to average 90 fps most cases with my machine>Didnt change anything>Now getting 40 fpsWtf did a new update just fuck optimisation up?!!
>Loading resources...>Loading resources...>Host left the game>Loading resources...>Host left the gameffs
>>498190516Speaking of -Tactical Prestige Class, CommanderAssault Prestige Class, SuppressorVanguard Prestige Class, Helix Adept (Apothecary)Bulwark Prestige Class, Judiciar (Chaplain)Sniper Prestige Class, Codicier (Librarian)Heavy Prestige Class, Aggressor You know it's true.
>>498193531All the forced loading just so you can actualy have control and make the game go the place you want via more loading is real cancer.
>>498193606Vanguard into Apothecary and Sniper into Librarian is a bit confusing. Explain your reasoning.
>>498194238Decimus decides that healing is better than hurting.
>>498193421New AMD drivers are dogshit surprise
>>498194504BULLET OUT!NEEDLE IN!
>>498121156so the emperor is the biggest human of all time. that means his bwc goes down to the floor right?
>>498165802Thanks. Making up little stories for my guys is fun even though it has 0 bearing on gameplay. I also really like how all of them look.Only negative is there's no gold helmet option for some stupid reason despite there being a silver and bronze one.
>>498192767The rabbit hole goes even deeper since they might actually be loyalist Emperor's Children.
so space marine 3 is 100% going to be necrons right?i wonder how they would add eldar into the game
>>498194238>ApothecaryHelix Adepts are partially trained Apothecaries that are attached to Vanguard squads because normal Apothecaries are presumably too fat to keep up.It also sort of fits with Vanguard already (very shitty) squad healing and pretty decent personal healing. Instead of the grapple he could have some meme healing ability with similar targeting, but instead of locking on enemiesit locks on friends.>LibrarianLibrarian into Sniper is weird but I didn't really have any idea where to put him.There's also that one voice-line where (I think) Vespasius worries that Scipius (Sniper) is vulnerable because he "looks too closely into his enemies", and Scipius retorts that he only sees their faces, not their minds. There's also a Tabletop mini of a Phobos-armor Librarian that wears a cloak and notably doesn't wear a Psychic Hood, just like a lower-rank Librarian would.>ChaplainSpeaking of said voice-lines Vespasius (Assault) would be the obvious Chaplain-to-be choice, as he mentions he loves Emperor very, very much and spends a lot of time reading religious scripture under eye of presumably Leandros.I picked Bulwark because he's the closest gameplay-wise to a Judiciar, except Judiciar has a two-handed weapon and a Tempormortis hourglass that slows down time (which effectively would just be Bulwark banner but slows down enemies in a large area instead of regenerating armor).THAT BEING SAID, Assault could be a Judiciar since he already uses a two-handed weapon, but instead of a Jump-pack he can use the same aiming system to quickly "teleport" to a place, stun and slow-down enemies around him, presumably by using his hourglass. I'm actually convinced myself now, Suppressors were a shit pick anyway. I'm changing it.>Tech-marineStraban (Heavy) would be the most obvious Tech-marine pick ever, because he has autism and loves maintaining his gun, but there are no Tech-marines in training that are attached to Chapters, as they all undergo training on Mars.
>>498196792That phobos librarian looks sick.Hiding all the exposed bits really gives the armor a nicer feel.
>>498196792>>498197091Agreed. The Phobos librarian is the best looking Phobos armor unit in the game.
>>498194238>The restIDK. I have no idea. This is the biggest hole in my theory, because there aren't any good HQ/advancements options for other classes that also would fit with their abilities. Bulwark could just be an Ancient... but he's pretty much already one.That being said voice lines do mention that Valius (Tactical) is both gunning for a command position and expected by his squad mates to reach one, but a simple Sergeant really would feel like shit since you're pretty much railroaded to make all your characters Veteran Sergeants or even Captains if you want the highest levels of bling.Bulwark I honestly have no idea. I played him a lot early on and maybe forgot but he strikes me as the one character with least characterization, serving mainly as support role in characterization of others.Heavy is autist and Tech-marine is most fitting, but as established, he cannot really be a half-Techmarine, it's either full or bust and "weaker" variants like vehicle crew also make no sense.Tactical Prestige Class, ???Commander???Assault Prestige Class, Judiciar (Chaplain)Vanguard Prestige Class, Helix Adept (Apothecary)Bulwark Prestige Class, ??Ancient??Sniper Prestige Class, Codicier (Librarian)Heavy Prestige Class, ???Aggressor???/???Suppressor???
>>498196745>Necrons>Another Egyptian themed enemy>No gore>Slow bullet sponges shooting at youIf there's no gore, what's the point?
>>498196792You can see the psychic hood on the librarian you posted No self respecting librarian would go without a psychic hood, that's a one way trip to turning your brain into a warp portay
>>498196558So they can sell it to us later
>>498195453The emperor is Turkish, no bwc here
>>498196745>necrons for 2 missions then it’s chaos again
>>498198056is that real?
>>498130064>grenade and heavy plasmas your dumbass with auspex, maybe spawn 2 at the same time in lethal difficulty
>>498197454Bulwark can be Champion.
>>498196792>>498197454This is the first time someone made me think classes like Chaplain or Librarian are possible. It would make it so much easier if they were variations on existing classes, since they could reuse a lot of customization, bunch of ability code, probably even most perks with just a line of additional ones, and most importantly voice actors. Pre-existing voice lines also seem to hint at this possibility.It would suck to be locked out of Librarian because some console fag is playing Sniper but it's also stupid enough that I can believe it.
>>498197874Oh yeah my bad. I never seen him in plastic and it is a small detail I expected would be hidde under the actual hood, but makes sense.I mostly based the no-hood thing on the Lexicanium Librarians not getting one yet because they're too shit at being a Psyker but I think they also don't do combat with Codifiers being the first ones and they do get them.It's all really old lore at this point, one I'm not sure is really reinforced in modern canon.
>>498198143He was born among the first humans ever. Our own history points that towards somewhere in the middle east. Hence why he's always portrayed with olive skin and black hair.
>>498198143Yes, he was born in Anatolia in the stone age
>>498196598Hawk Lords? really?
>>498198390The 5e space marine codex has a really good breakdown of how a codex compliant librarius would function, I can't remember where my copy is or I'd take some pictures It's probably gone out the window with primaris now anyway
>>498197454Bulwark as champion as someone said. Two handed power sword user. Even heavier focus on parrying. Alternatively, bladeguard ancientTactical could be just veteran. More skills perks and maybe an ability to temporarily go centurion or somethingAssault I got nothin beyond giving them the ranged options inceptors haveHeavy can just become AggressorSniper into librarian actually works if it's vanguard librarian like the mini you posted. Abilities focused on stealth for the entire team.Vanguard's the hardest to come up with something for me.
>>498198143>>498198494Old, old canon that is nowadays of questionable meaning to people that control it right now said Big E was born out of bunch of early Human Psykers deciding the best way to protect themselves from exploding and getting sucked out by Warp mosquitoes is to make one really strong one.Either way he was supposed to be born in ancient Anatolia, around the sites of oldest human settlements. I always thought it's sort of implied he was at least partially responsible for some of that stuff, especially since Bronze Age Hittite Empire of Anatolia were first recorded use cases of a double-headed eagle symbol, which I thought was a cool (probably unintentional) connection to Imperial Aquilla.
COCK IN!COCK OUT!
>>498199006Honestly doesn't even matter. Trying to be a "racist" in 40k is retarded unless you are literally biased towards different species.If the Emperor was a 12ft tall dark chocolate skinned giga chad with long flowing hair he'd still be fucking cool.
>>498196745Its gonna be Tau
>>498198895>The 5e space marine codex has a really good breakdown of how a codex compliant librarius would functionThat is mostly what I am sourcing it on and yes, indeed, it's pretty old lore that's probably mostly a suggestion to GW nowadays.>>498198296>>498198925>Bulwark can be Champion.Yes, but sort of no. He already is essentially a Bladeguard Veteran (crossed with Ancient) and a Champion isn't really big enough of a gameplay change to warrant him doing something else.Like, sure, he loses the shield, but is his ability just the banner all over again? Is it just Titus/Gadriel ability from Campaign? I'm not especially convinced, though I guess it would make some sense to have the same ability Titus has as a sort of mobile Banner but only for himself.>Tactical could be just veteran. More skills perks and maybe an ability to temporarily go centurion or somethingAlmost all my guys are Veterans, it just doesn't really hit that hard. It's clear to me he has to be a commander guy but pretty much all ranks are accounted for in simple customization. They could dig out Force Commander from Dawn of War but I'm pretty sure it was Relic's invention and thus as far from canon as we have strayed so far. As for his ability I'd feel nice if it tied to his normal one in similar way (Judiciar/Assault "temporal jump", Vanguard/Helix Adept "healing grapple", Sniper/Librarians... fucking "Warp-step" idk).>Heavy can just become AggressorIt would be quite sad if everyone else got those cool HQ Character abilities and Straban got a sidegrade.>>498199996It should be noted that Emperor could just change his physical appearance at will. So if he decided to be a tall, muscular, dark haired gigachad Kara Boga then who are lesser men to complain?
>>498197091>>498197228phobos is for homos
>>498200743I could see thisAnd then have Khorne as the chaos reveal halfway through again
>>498200743kek cope harder weeb
What weapon should I level next; include reasoning, it will be factored. Here is what I have left:>Tactical Auto Bolter, Carbine>AssaultFist>VanguardInstig, Occ>BulwarkFist>SniperCarbine>HeavyHeavy Bolter
>>498201590Instigator is funCarbine is also kind of fun on sniper, fuck what the haters thinkJust don't even bother with the fist, wait till it gets buffed
>>498201590if you plan on maxing them all out it really doesnt matter
>>498201080Then the endgame twist on a twist is that the final boss is Tau Champion of Khorne, Shas'la T'au Kais, the only Tau who ever said "Blood for the Blood God!" Would also help explain what the fuck those Tau are doing away from Tau space.
>>498201590Seems like vanguard has 2 left while the rest all have 1 (except assault and wark can share)
>>498201590>he leveled up bolt sniper riflehow about you include the reasoning kek
>>498201946The bolt sniper is goodIt's not the fusil but it's by no means bad
>>498201841Calling back to Fire Warrior would be way too based for GW to allow it.
>>498201786>wait till it gets buffedWe are months in and they have yet to really touch balance on any weapons (they adjusted 1 and did minor tweaks to two others). One of those was already the fist so it seems unlikely they will address it anytime soon as its already been "fixed" according to them.>>498201946It was early days and the info out there was trash and unreliable. I leveled it up alongside the Las and wanted to see if there was ever a time when it was superior there really isn't.
>>498201841>the only Tau who ever said "Blood for the Blood God!Wait what
>>498174402>playing chaos2spooky4me
>>498202861nulore released around the Lion's awakening. We've got instances of Tau and Sisters of Battle (sic) getting under the influence of Khorne
>>498202314I can only guess (read; hope and cope) that they're collecting data to use in a massive balance patch for when lethal difficultly comes out.
Please give me some answers:When do you dodge the zoanthrope mind ray and green ball attacks. The timing doesn't seem to correspond to anything visual. What's the correct knife combo to use?Is there any reason to ever use balanced melee over fencing?
I started the game today and picked veteran dificulty because it was the "intended experience"then I died on the first mission because I need to actually try instead of face rolling everything.so far very good experience
>>498204309knife is dogshit, just use chainsword
Why can't I look like this in operations..
>>498202861So this old game, Fire Warrior, right? It was the first Warhammer FPS (Space Hulk doesn't really count) back when GW wanted to sell people the newly-created Tau.Long story short it contains a singular Fire Warrior, Shas'la T'au Kais, killing his way Call of Duty style through Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, killing (multiple!) Daemon Princes, blowing up a Warlord Titan (I wish I was making this up) and eventually beating up a Lord of Change. Now the game doesn't really say this outright (if you ignore the fact a Tau manlet just out-skilled half the named characters in lore) apart from some minor visual stuff, using Chaos weapons and sometimes unintelligible spooky voices in your head, but the game had a novelization (one of better early sources into Tau culture) where it's pretty clear that despite Kais himself being unaware of this, he's clearly helped along by Khorne and he does, in fact, shout out Khorne's catchphrase. It suddenly makes the game's cover art (picrel >>498201841) make much more sense as to why a Fire Warrior is sitting on a pile of skulls.However he's been mostly memoryholed. >>498203245Shut up, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>498204309Mind ray you basically have to spam roll it because the hitbox is retarded and oversized. Green balls you have to eyeball it. A lot of times it's better to dodge into them instead of sideways, in my experience. Or just hide behind a wall or something.I use the tap hold tap tap combo but the weapon just sucks, really.Balanced weapons overall have better stats in damage and speed than Fencing. Once you're used to the timing, it's best to use Balanced.
>>498205446Fire warrior was great mostly for the fact you could use just a straight up m16
>>498204309>When do you dodge the zoanthrope mind ray and green ball attacks. The timing doesn't seem to correspond to anything visual.Yes, the hurtbox is pretty fucked up. Also the green balls are guided so if you dodge too early, they will home in on you anyway. In general, you want to take cover instead of dodging them. Have in mind though that these attacks can phase through some of the walls. There's a limited number of places where extremis enemies can spawn so you eventually just learn these places by heart. Just keep on practicing and you will eventually learn the timings and the safe spots.
FDX4S
>>498204590You can thoughever...unless you're a console peasant
>>498205641I do miss the days when various Stubbers/Autoguns were Warhammerized real world guns.
>>498205446Sounds dope I'll play through it next. In hindsight it seems odd to do a Tau game without mechs if the end goal is to sell Tau minis but if the real goal was to show a Tau fall to chaos then it's pretty neat>>498205641>it's real
>>498206114JOINOIN
>>498206169Heavy stubbers are still generally depicted as m2 machine guns
>>498206114>>498206535Loading....
Does anyone know which OST plays when the astropath begins sending the message.It's good shit.
>>498206169Not even warhammerised sometimes, I can't find it now but there's a 2e diagram of an autopistol that's literally just a 1911
>>498203928>Shas'la T'au KaisNo saying you are wrong, but that would be idiotic reasoning. You should balance the weapons in the playfield is static. Not balance around one paradigm while introducing another.
>>4982061143/3
>>498206142>thoughever???
>>498205446>However he's been mostly memoryholed.that's what he gets for being in a 5/10 video game
>>498206019>Also the green balls are guidedThat's only on the Neuro, zoan is unguided. Of course, that won't stop your "battle brothers" from dodging towards you so that they hit you even when you aren't the target despite being in an open field.
>>498206197As I said, I don't think the same Kais was ever mentioned again. There were bunch of other Tau guys named Kais but none of them can conclusively be said to actually be him.The game/novel is also absurdally based in some parts. Your Marine enemies are at first Raptors, and it was stated getting folded by a single Fire Warrior was the wake-up call that made Raptors turn from a generic Chapter into "Reasonable Marines" they are now.Later on Ultramarines show up, bitch about Raptors being incompetent and not being Codex adherent enough, they pat themselves on the back and claim that they will show everyone how real Codex-Adherent Sons of the best Primarch Guilliman do it and gain all the glory for Ultramarines and proceed to get folded by Kais all the same until they start actually working with him once they figure out Imperial troops on the planet are hereticsIt's actually hysterical because IIRC it predates Matt's Ward rule of terror by like five years and yet most of the Ultramarines are portrayed EXACTLY as people portray them in memes (IT IS I, CATO SICARIUS, and so on).As a side note, there's a high chance you saw Fire Warrior cinematics without realizing it.https://youtu.be/nxg8e5bZF_w>>498206562Ahem...>2066>Stationed on Mars to quell a rebellion>Become side door gunner for atmospheric dropship.>No miniguns or gatling cannons, just some metal brick with a pipe on one end.>Get sent in to extract some wounded.>Reach the evac zone and come under attack.>Horde of rebels charging in with their new plasma guns and compact rocket launchers.>Let loose a stream of bullets.>The sounds of the rebel's screams are nearly drowned out by the heavy "Kachunk chunk chunk chunk" of the machinegun.>The wounded are loaded up and returned to base.>Inspect MG afterwards.>Thing was made in 1942.>Tunisia, Italy, and Germany are scratched onto the gun.>Scratch "Mars" on with a knife.>>498206858I had it in my mind the whole time.
>>498208697>There were bunch of other Tau guys named KaisThe way Tau naming works this REALLY isn't saying much. Also, there is zero way the Etherals are gonna let our Kais just slip back into Tau society like nothing happened, much less the military.Its unfortunate, but bro was likely quietly dragged out back and a plasma burst put into the back of his head. AT BEST, he was shuffled to some remote "posting" where he was isolated from the larger culture and studied till the end of his days.
>>498196598>>498198681Are you sure you're not thinking of the Death Eagles?
>>498204469The game doesn't teach newbies how parry/block works and instead sends hordes of gaunts after you.Only after playing a few Ruthless/Substantial Operations will newbies learn to parry and turn Veteran into a cakewalk save for horde defense missions like the Volkite engine.
>>498211762>Volkite Engine horde defense missionAnon got lost in the Warp and is posting to us from the future.
>>498211762nigger posting horde mode mission names already
>>498209757There are a number of potential EC successors as they had a relatively high number of loyalistsThe Hawk Lords are mere speculation based on the fact that the Emperor's Children were known to often use the same tactics and formations that the Hawk Lords employ, plus their armor color is "phoenician purple." We also know that they were around during the War of the Beast, so they've been around since at least M32.Red Scorpions are also potential EC loyalists, along with the Death Eagles you mentioned and Sons of the Phoenix.
>>498211910?? It's a campaign mission
>>498212185Sometimes it feels like vast majority of Successor Chapters are somehow secret Traitor legion descendants.Why can't people just be normal, without a super-secret identity?
>>498212185Soul Drinkers too right?
>>498212185>Sons of the PhoenixNot even trying to hide it lol
>always go as a Black Templar>decide to go as a Imperial Fist because why not>the two randos are Black TemplarsI knew something like this would happen.
>>498212609You are pretty dull, Anon. Don't you realize he is teasing you for posting spoilers?
>>498212681They were folded into the Ultramarines and Imperial Fists because the idea that their Primarchs went traitor but a handful of Spess Mehreens stayed loyal is very inconvenient.
>ace pilots Top Gun styleUGH THEY'RE ULTRAMARINES>perfectionist snipersUGH THEY'RE RAVEN GUARD>likes wining, dining and interacting with noblesUGH THEY'RE ALSO ULTRAMARINES>incel Chaplains who rejected coomingUGH THEY'RE IMPERIAL FISTS
>>498212681The Cursed Founding is worse. Nobody even knows what the mechanicus did to them. Freakish mutations, bad luck with a high frequency of turning traitor inadvertently. Being super duper secret traitor primarch geneseed that rejects turning into babbling looney toon madmen is about as normal as you can get.
NA PING, roofless, leveling vanguard guns.
>>498212730Soul Drinkers are completely unknown. The only thing we DO know is that they aren't actually IF successors despite being listed as such since the second founding, and that this was a surprise even to them.They might be EC but given their odd penchant for mutations that we don't see anywhere else, I'm guessing they're 2nd or 11th legion remnants.
>>4982133252/3
>>498213612I got my shit mixedSons of the Phoenix are the ultima founding guys that are clearly Fulgrim geneseed and Cawl's going full shitpost.Soul Drinkers are the "renegade but not chaos" guys.
>>498213325Unless you live in Africa, NA ping is babby tier.There are no Asians in here that play, everyone is a burger or Yuro.If there's an Australian they play with bugmen and randoms.
>>498213906you gonna join or just talk about shit i dont care about?
>>498212681Not the exorcists!
>>498214123They're GK rejects
>>498213325Is this still on?
>>498214651Yes
>>498213325Shamefully dropped out, forgive me.
>>498214835Logging in, post code
>>498214201That wasn’t the criteria
>see enemy low level pick sniper>pick heavy with plasma>hunt him exclusively>he ends up with 2 kills, 9 deaths, 0 objectives
>>498212875Not all of them, Death Eagles and Carcharodons are listed as Raven Guard while being EC and at least partially Night Lords, respectively.The reason the Ultramarines have so many possible traitor sourced successors is because 1.) Gorillaman was the one organizing the flaming wreckage of the Imperium after the Heresy and was situated in a perfect position to neatly fold all those troublesome elements into his own legion that was already known for being exponentially larger than the other loyalist legions, and 2.) his little pocket empire, Imperium Secundus, ended up being safe haven for tons of traitor legion loyalists stuck on the wrong side of the galaxy.
havent played in a while did they fix it so when you matchmake with randos for ops you wont get put into a party that has the same class as you?
>>498216131Carcharodons are Raven Guard. They are RG as they were before Corax took over them. RG were monstrous - maybe not as bad as the Blood Angels were with their rampant, ritual cannibalism - but they gave the Night Lords a run for their money. The only difference is they did what they did without showcasing it or using it as a tactic. They were just taking trophies and carving people up mid combat instead.RG legion culture was bad enough that Corax had to decimate his legion of most of the original terran born troops who unlike a lot of the traitor legions - were actually the worst ones and least loyal.
2/3
>>498216767I just got matched into a group with both the same class as me followed by 2 more matches with at least one the same as me. If anything it seems to be getting worse
>>498217660>waaaa I only play one class
>>498204590You are a Primaris now. Faster.. stronger... more resilient...
>>498218745>just as fast as in the pologue>just as strong as in the pologue>just as resilient as in the pologue
>>498216767Nope. It depends on what class though. Nobody is gonna fight over assault, for example.
>>498218920another Big Pharma scam to squeeze us for money by inventing surgeries we don't need...
Drunk as shit, ready to playany codes?
>>498219034The rubicon surgery causes various negative unstudied long term health effects and doesn't actually provide any benefits and is a tzeentchian plot propagated by xenos lover and heretek cawl to weaken the space marines in general.
>>498218483Actually just trying to level a weapon that is only on one class, I have them all to 25 and nearly 2 relics on every one. But hey, you know, keep on slurping that vatnik cock.
>random asshole developer whose only successes are ports of other people's games makes a sequel to someone else's game and also makes a better darktide than fatshark at the same timeHow did they get away with this? How will it affect them going forward?
>>498219757>25 and nearly 2 relics on every oneand yet you're still too shit to level with bots kek
>>498213217Tried to make better marines like primaris but they fucked it up big time.
>>498221004Why do you keep inventing things? Are you that itching for a senseless slapfight? Look elsewhere
>>498218745Is Leandros a Primaris?
>>498223114Firstborn are basically extinct
>>498217660It's for this reason that I only ever host my own games now.
>>498223054
>>498203245Sisters of Battle are incorruptible. That would never happen.
>you can damage the helldrake when it is shooting, not just when it is stunnedI can’t believe how long it took me to learn that
>>498223729>are incorruptibleThey're notIt's just extremely difficult to corrupt themThe SoBs and the Primaris inside the ship needed Khorne himself to go berserk and kill one anotherNot a Daemon Prince, not a Greater daemon, not even Angron but Khorne himself
>>498223386according to gw maybe. Titus is only like 200 yo.
Man, Chaos Undivided is so gay. Just pick one god.
>>498224596no, iron warriors are the most based traitor legion
>>498225457Iron Warriors don't support Chaos
>>498224596ok
I7JWK
>>498226881NONOT THAT ONE
>>498229316it was 2/3 for too long and now i have to go return some video tapes
Do you guys ever see people who use the mod to unlock all weapons for all classes? Basically it results in everyone playing Tactical with a heavy bolter or multi melta.
>>498231643Loreful tactical desu
>>498231640I would've carried you to the very fires of Mordor, brother.Good luck on the returns.
>>498231643Such a boring way to break the game.They don't have a mod for infinite jump pack charges or 300% faster power fist animations or something?
>>498231640>it was 2/3 for too longDead hours
>>498232220>break the gamethe game is entirely based on parrying the weapons really don't matter
>>498232220Mods that give unfair advantages in MP are taboo on modsnexus and thus either not made, or deleted. However, I know for a fact that it's possible to control melee speed, weapon stats like damage, recoil and such. I personally modded my game to unlock all the weapon tiers really fast, have unlimited weapon mastery points and also level a class up to 25 after a single match. You need any pointers?
WWF69roofs removedone or two maps before sleep
>>498218920>pologue>pologue>pologue
>>498232680I modded mine to just play for me so I can just watch and stroke my cock
>>4982328532/3
>>498232853>>498233070filled immediately when i tabbed back
>>498232938Should have just looked up some tau chicks if you wanted to do that.
>>498233128game fucking FROZE on tabbing back jesus christ i might have to dip anyways
>>498233171not attracted to fish
>disconnected
>>498233313Same
Repost code
ZTTXT im back from returning video tapes
>>498232680>I personally modded my game to unlock all the weapon tiers really fast, have unlimited weapon mastery points and also level a class up to 25 after a single matchMan I love EAC.
2 more weeks?
>>498233502A7QBY
>>498233661Any game that enforces a grind should have mods that skip it.
>>498234963just watch streamers you zoomer piece of trash
>>498234963Zoomer retard
>>498218920Titus couldn't solo the last one so there is that.
>>498235101>>498235168Imagine needing to play tetris for an hour to unlock each shape and you'll understand why boomers like myself skip grinds.
The balanced knife feel so much better to attack with, why does the fencing version have to be so fucking slow? Only issue with the balanced one is someone’s you’ll just die because a little shit nibbles your ass when you press parry turning it into a block then everything hits you at the same time while you’re stunned.
>>498236251Titus' pistol is the thing doing damage. Titus being a little stronger doesn't change that. In canon the bolter pistol does the same damage per shot as the rifle, by the way. They use the same ammo.
>>498236919Right, right. You know what I mean but you nitpick anyways, yes.
so theres a patch tomorrow right
>>498240604is tomorrow tuesday?
I need season 2 bros
>>498236797I just started using the balanced knife like you said, and you're fucking right...You can still parry like crazy and it opens the fuck out of the rest of the moveset. I can't go back.I never realized the knife has infinite combos with light or heavies before. It feels like a mini power sword now.Thanks, anon. Holy shit.
>>498231643I use powersword, plasma pistol, and heavy bolt rifle on vanguard, it's fun I usually only do it in private lobbies though.
>>498241596It’s really good, just has the issue of accidental blocks leading to you getting demolished but man it feels so much better. I think it’s bullshit that the fencing knife is the only slow version of a melee weapon, all the other fencing weapons are fast or on par with the others speed wise.
>>498237157Titus only lost because the narrative needed him to, if it wasn't a scripted loss he would've worn that Carni's head as a trophy when Scot McScotsland found him.
I hope the season 2 patch opens up the weapon selection for classes a bit more, everyone should have at least two options in each slot minus heavy having no melee weapons.
>>498241962There is one specific outlier in there, the purple fencing thunder hammer has the slowest melee speed of any weapon in the game. The relic one is fine so it isn't a big issue, it's just weird.
>>498242181Yeah that was an odd one but at least it’s not cucked when maxed out like the knife
>>498240827it's always tuesday somewhere in the world
XKUP6
>>498242875Still available?
>>498242643That is not how timezones work
My balls are tingling, update today
>>498242875>>4982435762/3
>>498242875>>498243576>>498243895JUEED
The update had better make all the bolt weapons 200% more effective than they are now. The most iconic weapon in the setting should not feel this weak.
>>498244346Bolt weapons now deal an extra 0.02 damage if you shoot the enemy in the head.
Plasma (not including Heavy) does nothing for me. The perks also feel pretty useless.
>>498243998INVALID
>>498245360It's all about the charged shots. They stun nids out of blocks, stun chaos marines out of shooting, and stun any majoris out of calling for backup.
>>498245360ba8it
>>498246678I wish the normal shots for it was actually stronger. A relic plasma gun with normal shots should kill a gaunt one Roofless with one hit no matter where you hit desu
>actually ran into two Ultramarines
>Tactical>Bolt Rifle>Bolt Pistol>Chainsword>Shock Grenade>Ultramarine PaletteOh yeah, now we're cooking with gas.
>you can get kicked out of a match you started alone in and went halfway through by yourself because 2 retarded monkey friends joined in and got mad at being called idiotsok I guess I'll play private operations only from now on
>>498249381>insult teammates>they don't want to play with youConsider me shocked, don't take a casual horde third person shooter so seriously, friend.Although it is bullshit that the "host" can be kicked from his own session lol
>>498249501maybe they shouldn't be horrible at the game or abandon the geneseed carrier alone in the middle of a giant horde then?I miss when you could call people out for the niggers they are in games
>>498249501If they are niggers that try to speedrun the level instead of playing the game then they deserve to be called retarded>pays 60$ to play jogging sim
>bulwark>level 18>PC>ruthless>going down constantly>no heal perkDo these people not have parry bound or something?This happens so frequently.
>>498249381Does that kick the other two back to the battle barge? That'd be hilarious.
>>498249858Who cares, just forget about it and move on
>>498250070I can't forget about it when I have one of these types every other match.I can't help but notice it.
>>498249582I don't know what to say man, sometimes shitters are gonna shit, the price of having a popular game is that shitters will be attracted to the smell of FOTM, give it a few more months and only those who know what they're doing will be left, atleast until horde mode where it'll go back to 50/50 chance of retards or competent brothers.>>498249768I don't do that and I hate faggots that do but the motivator probably comes from grinding levels to get good gear so you can do the higher difficulties with the better(read: more fun) gear.Not that i'd know, I got bored of the missions by the third difficulty, i'm a PvPsissy now.>>498249858I find that Bulwarks are the most binary players, they either carry and effectively facetank entire hordes or get minced by a single minoris, no in-between like there is with Tacticals or Heavy, but the game is quite easy compared to other games of its kind and you get exp on losses so who cares, try to carry and be proud if you do.
>>498223785Fuck. I didn't know that either.
>>498249381I always insult them just after the end of the match before the loading screen.They can't kick me anymore after that.
>>498231643class restrictions are mega gay. only 1 class per operation is super gay. only 2 of the same class in pvp is utterly gay.i should be able to have a bulwark shield and use a bolter. i should be able to have a thunder hammer and a bolter. i should be able to have a heavy bolter and a knife. i should be able to have TWO KNIFES. the only restriction should be class perks and abilities.
>>498220745Just by being somewhat competent, I guess. Fatshark really should be an expert at making these kinds of games and they arguably are but goddamn are they also really fucking stupid.
>>498249768exactly>stuck in the middle of a giant horde of majoris and minoris because I'm the only one that actually went to defend the last generator on inferno>struggling since flag isn't up and this is inferno difficulty so I have to slowly whittle down enemies with parries and sometimes a melee hit>both retards went straight to the checkpoint without ever even firing a single shot towards my position even though I'm carrying the geneseed>both kept spamming ping the whole time>call them idiots for not helping me after I finally get to safety>kicked out of match a few seconds latertruly peak gamers>>498250069I fucking hope so>>498250168based
>>498250336I meant ruthless difficulty btw obviously
>>498250336>kicked for slowing everybody downBased get fuckedDeserved for trying to ruin the game for two out of three peopleWelcome to society incel
>>498250631shut the fuck up retarded "ironic" nigger
>have geneseed>under prepared to defend>rush into horde anyway>get kicked
>>498250678mad cuz true
>>498250790should've just let the generator explode while pinging the closed checkpoint door then :)
>>498250336desu if most of the players want to move on and youre being selfish and wasting their time then im not surprised they kicked you
>>498250940>literally the only person that went to do the objective while 2 mongoloids waited and twiddled their thumbs>literally solo in the middle of a billion enemies and surviving by myself while 2 retards do nothing>actually finish the objective and then manage to get to the checkpoint eventually with zero help>selfishsometimes I forget this website is full of mongoloid retards with room temp IQ
>>498251137you got kicked because you deserved itmove on
>>498250336yeah, its like these people dont get that you have to be on the same page for rushing to work>be me(tact), doing a vox for my last bit of xp that night>heavy joined mid load>champion skin, heavy bolter>runs ahead, gets minced by 8 majoris exiting the 1st room>kill the mobs myself>3rd joined, revived him>forward to 1st altar>camps in the aproach>me and 3rd do objective, get overwhelmed by massive wave>heavy runs all the way back to 1st sorc encounter>only survived because only 2 enimies followed and i left a stim there>rushes through the FFA without firing a single shot>triggers boss, helbruteme and 3rd(assault) duo the boss, duo a wave>get almost wiped at the elevator because, ofc, they heavy didnt clear it in his spare time>assault ragequits, sniper joins>demonhost went suprisingly smooth>because me and sniper dealt with all the mobs while heavy did the altars unimpededthere are places where running past a couple mobs is totaly fine, vox's FFA is a prime example, you can skip like 10 majoris by going past them on the balcony to the lefthowever you gotta be aware this shit goes tits up if not everybody participates.i bet this fucker thought he was the toughest shit for doing as a speedrun video explained it to him, forgetting he's supposed to do that with bots or other, willing, participants
>>498251232sure thing buddy, nothing wrong with a game that lets 2 idiots join and kick the host, and they're definitely not even bigger idiots for kicking the one carrying the geneseed because they feefees got hurt.
>>498251293yeah thats the retarded zoomer kids thinking they're hot shit for speedrunning stages just like how they saw it done in a random youtube video not realizing that it takes perfect conditions to do and will make the match go to shit instantly if not.I don't even care if you wanna speedrun but whats the point if you fail the mission because of it? even more so when you join halfway through and the "host" already has the geneseed and then you somehow not only decide to kick him but the game allows it to happen too.
>>498249858Last time I was playing my 25 Bulwark I was using the white power sword, it was a painful experience
>>498251293I did the heldrake op on substantial for some class grinding and my teammates decided to rush through everything.There were thousand sons all along the path you need to run through to avoid the fire but the worst for me was the elevator just before that.Wave spawned on top of me when I went back in the burial chambers to stock up on ammo and I had to either fight or try to run to the elevator but likely end up losing most of my health or getting a mortal wound.These 2 niggers waited at the elevator for 5 minutes as I cleared the wave by myself. Fuck all niggers who run ahead. Total zoomer death.
>>498249381Chinks seethe hard and will vote to kick if you insult them once
Why does the purple chainsword mog the relic so hard
>>498253192the fencing one? how so
>>498253192Relic fencing is bugged and acts as Balanced for the purpose of parrying
>i will use these krak grenades, what could possibly go wr-ACK
>>498253649Kr-ACK grenades
>>498253649So that was the krak bug
>>498253649>EMPEROR ACKBAR!>roll 1>no damage is dealt and model is incapacited
>>498253649Yeah, wasn't worth it.They kept sticking to minoris and exploding next to the majoris I was aiming for for no damage.There was that time I got three+ majoris with one krak though...
>>498254559yeah they are overrated and only really handy if a terminator/terminus shows up. id rather dump frags on groups of majoris to soften them up for executes if anyone needs them desu
>>498254912you forgot zoanthropes
>>498255660i guess thats true but honestly theres only like one particular spawn location where i consider them a particularly annoying threat and thats in the tubes before the hive tyrant
Shock Grenade or I'm not interested
Wish the Thunder Hammer's more explosive executes on Minoris dealt damage around you like the visuals imply.
>>498256924Wish the thunder hammer worked like an actual thunder hammer
>>498257592>>498257592>>498257592
>>498249381Doesn't that end the whole mission?
>>498256924i could swear it does, but super negligable, like you wont notice it on roofies, but on average it might put a majoris into execute range
>>498257701I sure hope it did and the fuckers didnt get a free mission at my expense
