Previous thread >>498170841>Now available EVERYWHERE (but nintendo switch and xbox one)>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day>Kino Commercialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA
i have made the past 4 threads by now/..
There's no reason I should be getting 70fps from this game
I like the stupid gag of Hulkenberg running into people in the toilet
>random cock-gobbling contest in the Regalith Cathedral Markets on my final day in Grand Trad made me more popular by 100 rankshow much other shit have I missed by not talking to random NPCs oh no no no I'm restarting my save
Man that boss rush in the third town is ass, pretty damn hard to kill two bosses at the same time in three turns
Why are the chair-sitting postures always so fucking bad in these games?
so is this game legit? didn't know if i wanted to pick it up or not. I hate watching trailers, they spoil everything
I need urgent clarification. Am I "beating the game" if I chain spam those synthesis attacks that apply a weakness against bosses. They seem busted to me.>2 Buff/Debuff/Heal bitches>Other 2 deal shitloads of damage by chain spamming synthesis attacks that exploit and reapply a weakness.
>>498225934It's shit. Please play P5R instead
>>498225338Yea by the time you get to the end of the second town max you can get is rank 64, I been debating people and doing quest and finally got to 37 in the third town.
>>498225767Not if you are 5 levels over them like I was. I forgot what the dude who joins in weakness was, but I was a Wizard on my MC with 40 MG stat already from pumping so I could just blitz down the other dude.
>>498226025This weakness stuff is fucking crazy b
Magic or strength for protag?And are you ever able to reset their stats?
>>498225934If you already like persona then you'll like this, its nearly the same gameplay: New dungeon > finish it in one day > wait for the plot to continue by spending free time leveling characteristics/social links. Its a good holdover until p6 comes out in another 4 years
>>498226308Game really wants you to use magic because all other three party members are str based
>>498226308Str as usual. Magic is trash.
Hold the phone. I know there have been a lot of Easter eggs to their established IPs. But it feels like there are more to EO than anything, with some layouts being plucked straight from those dungeons. What if it’s a sleeper set up to a soft modernized, or reboot
>>498227085I'd say you're retarded.
Is there any reward for taking all paths with enemy gauntlet runners on the route in map?
>>498226308hybrid with early magic leaning
>>498227383It boosts your rank, you can steal rare stuff from them, and it’s decent exp
THIS GAME IS KINO
>this wins goty somehow>Atlus announces Persona 6 at the gameawardsHow much seethe will this cause I wonder
>>498228439Way too soon for that, they are still milking persona 5
>>498228503It's been 8 fucking years
>>498228503>announce P6 >milk P5 for 5 more years>2030 releaseeasily done
>>498227085They'd get a third nuke because despite having persona characters as dlc, I want EO to not turn into persona-lite. Its a shit reboot if you can't draw maps
>>498228439Im more interested how they'll one up Persona 5. Playing P5R, Reload then Metaphor consecutively in the span of 5 months made me realize Hashino took a good chunk of the P5 team with him, so the new Persona team really has to step up
>>498228907its going to suck
>second major story dungeon>dealing with the boss's body part gimmick just makes the fight take longer with little to no benefit
>>498228439Theyll announce P4R first. That one will cause more outrage 100% as if all the Naoto is Trans / Kanji and Yosuke are gay garbage analysis from twitter didnt fan the flames for more than 10 years
>>498228648Yea and they just made a gacha game
>>498229676Pretty much, just go to the back line and guard
Metaphor?
>>498228648We're just getting started
>>498229724that wont happen, globohomo is on its way out.
>>498230163Metaphor is globohomo-approving though
FUCK EO bring back DDS
>luck helps you do more hits in rng multi hit skillswas this in case in previous atlus games?
>>498228439This could totally win game of the year to be honest. Baldur's Gate 3 was actually legitimately woke and gay as fuck but the reason it got game of the year was largely because it was a major mainstream traditional CRPG experience and that adds legitimacy to the awards as an "institution". Giving it to a come from behind Atlus JRPG title that slightly mentions "diversity" but is a new IP breaking from Persona that managed to receive tons of critical and player praise as well as 1mil+ in one weekend would be kind of a similar case.But then again who gives a shit, really. Haha.
>>498230338FUCK DDS bring back Debisama
>>498230491i dont care for award shows but i want this game to get an award as this is the only 2024 (ORIGINAL) game ive played and liked (excluding yakuza 8 which i only kinda liked)
>>498230669the spanish translation is coming out annnnnnnny minute now...
The second Heismay fight was forced as shit, seriously what the fuck was that pre-dialogue?>Hey Heismay I don't think you kidnapped kids since you have a dead one.>Strohl:NOOOOOO HE'S A LYING COWARD LIKE KLINGER AND ZORBA DON'T RUN FROM THE FIGHT>Fight is a exact fucking repeat of the 1st with the same dialogue about Heismay holding backThe only good part was Heismay telling Strol to use his fucking eyes and brain after being accused of kidnapping.
>>498230245It isn't really to be honest.I mean I'm virulently racist but aside from some lines like Gallica's about diversity this is just bog standard "fantasy diversity" messages (and I'm curious if the specific use of the word "diversity"'s equivalent is used in the original Japanese or if its usage is tranny localizer shit). I mean, I'm not really racist or discriminatory against the aliens in Mass Effect either (except Batarians and occasionally Hanar) even though there are options to be. And ultimately the end of that game is all about bringing all the fantasy scifi races together.
>>498230706Can Shadows of the Erdtree be eligible to win GOTY? If so I could see it happening (but probably not).What else even came out this year? Stellar Blade and Black Myth Wukong and a new COD? This year was full of slop.
Any specific characteristics to focus down first? I know wisdom 2 is needed for the goblin dungeon and for purifying, but haven't heard any other recommendations
>>498231062SB and Wukong aren't nominated because they re scared they are going to win.
>knight gets no offensive abilities at all throughout the first dungeon unless you inherit or use synthesisWhat did they mean by this?
>>498231062didnt shadows of the erdtree get some pushback? i dont know if they are daring enough to put that game up for GOTY considering how its a DLC and its not unanimously hyped up like how elden ring was.
>>498231125Wisdom, imagination and tolerance are the first checks.
>go to the tower in brilehaven region>find those big ass goblins>can steal pic rel from themgoddamn, im glad i got 4 of themstealing in general is so busted, if you ambush an enemy you can steal, escape, ambush rinse repeat
>>498231238I stuck her with healer and only brought Knight back out for the dungeon boss.
Everybody says "if you're so tough beat the dungeon on the first day" do they literally mean the first time you get introduced to the concept of days which I guess in the demo is the part where it says "you have 3 days in the demo to do what you want"? I haven't played it yet I'm asking because I want to know when and how that "3 days left" bit triggers. I want to milk as much playtime out of the demo as I can for the time being without being constrained by the days and being a FAKE LOSER GAMER WHO DIDN'T FINISH THE DUNGEON FIRST DAY (I'm kind of kidding but you get the idea).
>>498231125Just get everything to 2. Wisdom, Kindness, and Eloquence in that order.
>>498231238They meant they want you to engage with the game's mechanics and inherit shit.
>>498231062There's FF7 Rebirth and Astro Bot for games released. Dragon Age Veilguard is going on TGA's nominations regardless of its true quality (like Inquisition). To round out for a fifth, if not Elden Ring's DLC, probably Balatro or Animal Well. Those are the kind of games that tend to come out of nowhere and sweep awards, plus they have 90+ in Metascores.
>megidolaon costs money in this gameI don't know what to feel
>>498229676>>498229809Just break one eye, so it cant use its most powerful move and it will always telegraph who it uses Tackle on. You dont really "lose dps"since the extra time you spend shooting the eye still gives press turns. Used Gunner/MageKnightI thought that was the main strat to make it easier.
>>498230827Hirasaki, vámonos a casa...
>>498231370the moment you're about to do the last activity on your 3rd day itll notify you that you wont be able to save past that point because you would then enter the 4th day which is beyond the demos given time. Also you cant beat the dungeon in the demo, it stops you from entering a certain room, you'd have to come back when you have the full game to progress
>>498230915Mass Effect didn't have them all share one big galactic country though, the Council was more like the UN than anything else and everyone hated them.Metaphor wants every tribe to bow to the globohomo regime without a dominant culture or religion
>Bardon! I heard ye filled me wife's holes while I was away! I could kiss ye!bro?
>>498231370The demo lets you play the days of the 12th, 13th, and 14th. If you do the main dungeon/cathedral, it ends immediately when you beat the mid-boss even if its the 12th. So to maximize the demo, save the main dungeon for the 14th.The maximize way is>on the 12th get the quest to cook from that dude>go sit on the bench to gain wisdom>on the night of the 12th, buy the ingredients and cook. Need to buy intel to open up the herb shop>on the 13th, go turn in that quest, go talk to the white hair, dark skin woman in the same area and with your Wisdom level increased to 2 can take on a secondary dungeon which takes your whole day>on the 14th go do the main story dungeon
>>498231238knight has really good synthesis skills up until like the 3rd town and by that point it starts getting good offensive abilities
>>498231670>YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOO
>Unlock Swordmaster during Goborn King bounty>tfw new synthesis skill deletes bounty for me
>>498231492Extreme PHYSICAL Almighty, anonThat would be Gaea Rage (SMTIV version).
>>498231706Thank you Anon that's very helpful at giving me an idea of how it will progress.So the secondary dungeon is something I do/get access to on the day before the final day of the demo? And fighting the dragon I heard about is entirely optional but something I can't actually miss out on? Like it's not hidden.
>>498232013Oh yeah, personabab here. I didn't know there are physical elemental attacks in megaten games. Is that why people go str all the time?
>>498232164People go str because all physical attacks used to cost HP so it was MP/SP efficient
>>498232158The dragon is in your face on the main path yes. The optional dungeon requires 2 Wisdom to accept the quest do, and the earliest you can get 2 wisdom is with those steps and doing it on the 13th.
>Heismay clone fight>protag comments that the real heismay hesitates when he attacks>I have no fucking idea which heismay is attacking because of the way the camera keeps movingAm I fucking stupid or am I missing something or what? I don't see any differences in their models...
>>498232164>>498232281Also, in more mainline megaten than not, the damage formula leans favorably towards STR and you get things like Focus/physical crit boosting passives/etc. earlier than you do decent magic boosts
>love crit build>hate merchant's designthe game designer is intentionally fucking with me
>>498232343I thought the damage was lower when they attack, but the damage range is RNG anyways so I just reset till I got lucky on the first set of clones and hope I got lucky on the others
>>498232564>merchantI see (((You)))
VV ost was better
>>498232343Turn off camera shake, that shit is an objective detriment. Also look for Heismay's shadow
>>498232164Crits, and more common multi-hit skillls, makes Physical tend to shit out more damage outside of weakness exploitation.
>>498232614well yeah, ryota kozuka is the better composer desu
How strict is this game in raising social attributes? P5R was pretty forgiving so I'm expecting the same here desu
>>498232651Lmao it's really funny that I missed this, looking for it makes it instantly the most obvious thing everI guess the dialog had me overanalysing the attack animation and attack damage, and I was looking at the models through the analysis screen and not the battle itself
>synthesis skill missedI ain't mad, just bewildered.
>>498232864The dialogue is just to hammer in that Heismay is not a bad guy, they repeat the same sequence in both fights out of fear that people somehow wouldn't get this character trait.
Dorkenberg...
>magic knight can evolve into paladin or dark knightlove this trope
>>498233467She is easily the best of the cast. >to get more food, simply add more ingredients
>>498232841Very lenient. Reviewers were ending the game with all social stats/links maxed and like 10 extra days to dick around at the end. You practically have to be intentionally wasting time to not make it. So also don't give yourself a conniption if you have to do some of the longer story dungeons in 2 trips instead of 1.
HUGE epic weapon steal on Lina or whatever the female bat gunship girl is called going to forsaken tower
Got offered to gamble on what rank i reach during third city story... autism flaring cant savescum a multi week event
Assasinate is so good on the first boss on Louise's runner.
>this general says Merchant is OP>try it>it sucks
Advice for minmaxers: Faker rank 2 seems to require Wisdom 3
>>498234017I hope when I unlock Pugilist my power lines turn blue.
>>498226308Magic is wack in this game lule. This is world of str+luck for fat juicy physical crits.
Louis is so fucking stubborn, lmao. He has 6 different boss fights.
Final question I have that doesn't really matter, I'm pretty blind on archetypes and I reckon I'll remain that way but I am torn between going some melee style combat or going some kind of mage. I'd go spellblade if I could but it's my understanding there isn't a standard archetype for that really (dunno about synthesis or whatever or any other later mechanic that the game might have).I am kind of an edgelord when it comes to fantasy classes, who likes magic shit. Any suggestions? And Hulkenberg is a must-have in my party, ride or die type shit all the way to the end, if that matters.>>498232301Thanks a lot. I appreciate the tips and answers.
I fucking love how Catherina is voiced by the same VA as Power
>>498234151As much as I want to kill you for casual spoilers, I was praying he was as tenacious as Shadow Shido.
Are we supposed to go back to cathedral in the future?There are still chests and door i can't open
>>498234171The Seeker turns into the Magic Seeker right after and that is the closest to a hybrid. You can also just inherit magic skills onto melee classes, and you get funneled a ton of items to just give archetype XP to powerlevel
>>498234372Yes
>>498234372You're able to open them all/loot everything your first time there, but also yes, look around
>>498234372You do get a side quest to go through the mausoleum and it opens the doors. The cathedral itself, no.
>havent gotten healer to level 10>sanctist announcement in 1 dayis my save bricked?
A few threads back, this guide was posted:https://www.rpgsite.net/guide/16304-metaphor-refantazio-100-follower-bond-rank-walkthroughI just got to 6/12, and thus finally have a real choice on what to spend time on. The guide says to do the dungeon on the first day, but would it be better to do some side-quests first? Would I miss anything by doing side-quests first, then the dungeon a few days later?
>>498234573>He didn't time manage the tutorial of time managementAnon, I...
>>498234413there is also The Prince and the paladin and dark knight, kinda
What stats should I level for the MC?
>>498234702You should follow your gut it's more fun
Hulkenberg, idol fan and proud bug eater. Always full of surprises.
Does Attack scale magic damage? I am wondering about 242 staff that increases electric vs 200 staff that increases all spell damage.
>>498235312yes
>>498235312I'd assume yes since there is no Makakaja and most attack boosts specify just that, Attack, as opposed to your Strength or Magic stat.
>you cast "DEI" to heal yourself >so you can continue to fight the "Homos", >so that you can defend the city of "Trad".>also the elite bad guys wear white cloaksIt's like someone wrote a story 5000+ years from now based on current memes
>>498234413>>498234983Alright... Seeker and Dark Knight have potential then. Stat spread for either? Just split pretty evenly between Str and Magic for Seeker with whatever else? I assume Dark Paladin on the other hand is probably more Str with Magic but less Magic?
>>498234302See, this is why I hate royal's additions. Shido was a fucking cockroach in the original but the royal version is a wet cardboard thanks to how overpowered you are
bath salts give permanent stat increases or are they fleeting buffs? wanna see if they are worth it
I laugh everytime I fight a human and its name is "Homo"
>bronze gauntlet is 30 battles in a row of enemies around level 30-35jesus
>>498235834twitter has really mindraped everyone on 4chan
>>498236153Don't listen to those anons, Dark Knight and Paladin are mediocre hybrid classes. Just run the Seeker tree and split your stats evenly between strength and magic, the MC eventually gets a unique class thats a perfect jack of all trades and with the really good skills from the Seeker line can be even better.
>>498235834I think dei was supposed to be "di" (dia with a removed) but Di sounds stupid so they added E in the middle
>>498236317Permanent stat increases, its why it costs the nightalso use the toilet in the runner on idlesday every time to get perma +1 luck
>>498236457Where is the toilet
>>498236457so i should be buying all of them at stores or will that leave me broke for the next time I find the salts for a stat I actually want?
>>498236339I think I got all my laughs out when I learned about "homo sapien" in third grade
>auto lock switches to a different enemy offscreen while I'm going for an ambush back attack>get ambushed insteadI'M GONNA FUCKING SCREAM
Is Gunner bad? Because conceptually I think it's cool as fuck.
>>498236607A little because its kind of in an odd niche of requiring physical characters to be in the backline when in every other case you want them up front
>>498236339>Great Homoworm Buttera
>>498236339I still cant believe Homo Erectus was a thing and is 100% unironic. Funniest thing Ive heard when I was 12
>>498226043>Please...why?
Pro tip for any newfags. Make Hulk your mage.
>>498236529Right across the pantry, which is next to kitchen. There is also 2 random free ingredients every single day in the pantry. >>498236550I'd just get some, you'll want to be spending nights upgrading stats or talking with party members anyways.
bros...
>>498237204Ishkia women are built for sex
>classic setting>everyone has British slangevery time. is this some american racism
>>498237330JP is canon for this game thoughever
I somehow got Gallic to show a close up of her feetFairy Feet
>>498237330>the setting based on sub-modern european architecture with sub-modern european fashion has people with european accentssay it aint so
>level 32 gobbo does frenzy 1-3 heavy strikes to all enemies>its doing 30 damage per hit something is wrong something must be bugged im on so called "hard" mode
>>498237330The kingdom's name comes from a novel about alternate history Europe titled "Uchronia (Utopia in History), an Apocryphal Sketch of the Development of European Civilization Not as It Was But as It Might Have Been."
How's the EN va for this game anyway? I'm playing on JP and it's great.
>>498237767Its very good, anons will tell you its bad because this is an anime board deep down but im having a blast. Louis, Neuras, Basilio, Junah, Strohl, and Heismay are standouts
>>498237767sucks, if i had to listen to gallica english dub i would be dead. i would be fucking dead right now
>>498237767Its ok, but only because I have a weakspot for british voice acting and biased against the Californian VA union. I still dont like the MCs voice, he has a fucking lisp ffs
The bronze gauntlet wasn't so bad, but the silver ranked matches are mid lvl 45 enemies so I guess you do both bronze stuff and then just come back later. Also you can do coliseum fights at night.
>>498237767I edged to Gallica's VA for like 30 minutes. Best nut of this month.
I like Gallica's EN VA.
>>498237204gorgeous and cool design makes me think of a fucking moth girl or something
>>498237616All enemies strike from a trash mob sounds about right.Remember that any of the his can crit giving him another round
how much time am i wasting if i back out of the catacombs around the time i find that one knight in whiteim outta mp and i only have a couple more pills
Could someone let me know what this arrow means?Is it just that there's a quest?
i havent played at all today
>>498238460it means youre mid progress on a quest from that character, if it was finished itd be a flashing yellow checkmark
Guys wheres Yukari
>>498238571CoolHe kept asking if I wanted to leave the room, so I figured I might've been missing somethingAnd I just looked at the quest page and sure enough it has those same arrows
>>498238457There will be plenty of down-time days through the game, where you spend time just trying to raise a skill. If you can't go further just leave and come back, plus appraise or purify gear you've found to be strong. Need 2 Wisdom to start purifying though at the church
I've heard the second main dungeon is pretty small compared to the cathedral but how's the third one? I'm really enjoying this dungeon slog.
>>498238916Second one is smaller but there are more optional dungeons around the town as a result. The third dungeon seems similar, the actual "dungeon" isn't even really a dungeon but there are 3 side dungeons to do plus coliseum battles
I love this game :3
>>498239007Yeah I heard there's more dungeons overall but still I'd like another long one.
>$2.5 million and i'm only in augusti love merchant
Reminder, if you used Merchant on MC, you didn't beat the game.
So when are they rolling out the performance patch and adding AA to this?
>getting raped infront of your fairy gf
>first 4 characters are all Physical basedWhat did Atlus mean by this?
>>498239947Just switch them to MAG jobs bro? It's that easy, stats are really fluid since a lot of it comes from the bonus stats given by the archetype and gear.
>>498239943God shes so ugly
>>498240096That's what I did but it doesn't change that Hulk-chan still has like 6 more points of STR and the rest have higher base STR. It's funny.
>>498232478>the damage formula leans favorably towards STROnly in Nocturne due to spells having weird level based damage bands for no reason.>you get things like Focus/physical crit boosting passives/etc. earlier than you do decent magic boostsEven in Nocturne which has the earliest Focus/Power Charge in like the entire series, magic is still stronger than phys during the early game thanks to Tornado + Force Boost which is available as early as Level 22 and you can pretty much use it until you get Magma Axis/Fire Boost and then eventually dump magic altogether for Freikugel spam.The usual balance in these games is that magic is better than phys for most of the game due to superior turn economy and earlier passives but phys wins at the end when enemies stop getting weaknesses and it devolves into crit fishing, or Atlus accidentally makes a comically OP phys skill for no reason (Hassou Tobi, Figment Slash, etc). Magic should have gained the ability to crit ages ago when they allowed phys skills to get boosts/amps.Metaphor places a greater emphasis on gear than raw stats, so who knows which one will actually win this time around.
>>498239947Hulkenberg is END. Her second main job uses magic too. She's a fine mage.
>>498240189STR definitely stronger early game here. Still in Ch2 but the only time mag was useful was for the undead in cathedral.
>>498240464My redpilled wife
>>498240464Sounds like louisan talk to me.
>>498226479Not necessarily true. In any of the cutscenes, Will is relying on his sword as much as magic. If anything, the game is encouraging you to go hybrid since that's what Will's default class is and all of his best equipment the gear of his dead mom is for hybrid builds.
>>498228503Are they though? Persona 5X kinda feels like the end of the road.
>>498228439Wukong is gonna win GOTY. Turn based games are too niche.
>>498240718I'm gonna make STR MC work even if I have to drag the corpses of everyone across the ending cutscene.
>>4982404592x Mage trivializes Nord MinesMage/Healer or 2x Mage is also pretty effective in the Cathedral too. Strohl can hold onto the dragon sword or exorcist fist while exploring.Getting Fire Boost + Witch Earring that early is hilariously effective.
Shut up, onahole.It makes perfect sense and it is the morally righteous position.I sure as hell ain't getting taxed moeny and yet keep doing shit for basically everyone. Also, charities exist. Why does she feel like using FORCE to extract wealth from others is ok?Even in the goddamn book we are reading, which is portraying an ideal world, points out how taking wealth by force is condemned and deeply shameful.
>>498240464>fashion from the 60s>Utopia written in the mid-16th century>decor, architecture, society reminiscent of early 18th-19th century>yet people claim this is medieval fantasy
>>498240718Hybrid is still almost certainly going to end up weaker even if the game wants to make it usable.I'm still doing it too mind, just being realistic.
>>498240907Living in society is an implicit agreement to be subject to its laws.
>>498240464why can't we have an rpg where the church are the good guys?
>>498240995>try to leave society and go live inna woods>they hunt me down and demand taxes anyway
>>498240671Not!Lucifer was based, Strohl.
Enemies getting an extra turn on hard is actual insanity. As far as I remember this didn't happen in any SMT game and those were hard enough.
>>498241089Yeah it's great. Encounters having a two turn minimum for enemies really makes shit interesting.
>>498241043The State lays claims to that land, and you're free to go to war with them to set your borders.
>>498240993If stats cap at 99, then hybridization with points will end up being better to avoid overcapping due to archetype bonuses/mastery and whatever you get for free from gear.Remember, even Nocturne has you going 30 Str/Mag/End with 1 Agi every 5th level due to Masakados.
>>498240995No, it is not. That is counter-enlightenment romantic Rousseau bullshit. An agreement, BY DEFINITION, requires consent. If you are born into unjust laws, there is no "implicit agreement" to them. Also this >>498241043
>>498241089You can definitely just instantly lose in one turn if they hit a crit or a weakness
>>498241138Then you are just advocating for might makes right. Might does not make right, it is only might and might merely gives you the capacity to induce change. I am arguing about what is right and what is not, and extracting wealth by force from people that acquired that wealth through voluntary agreements is not right.
>>498241128I'm hoping Regicide offers some strategical buffs like Merciless did otherwise it's gonna be pure torture. Enemies getting an extra icon on top of all the even harder buffs they get and harder debuffs you receive with no recourse is gonna be terrifying.
>>498241089It makes it pretty brutal. It's hard recovering from an ambush because of it.
>>498241235It's happened plenty to me already. Boss gets an unfortunate crit on a multi-hit attack and it's restart time. I still haven't even seen a single party-wide buff spell yet which is really adding to the pain.
>>498241340>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST OWN LAND>I WANT TO OWN THE LAND YOU HAVE TO GIB IT TO MEI'm advocating you can't just steal things that belong to other people already, without them defending their ownership. Sorry you were born too late to make your sovereign claim to your own micronation.
>>498241486Seeker gets Matarukaja as a synthesis spell
>>498241089Its good, hard actually feels hard in some areas, although I do wish it forced more actual battles than letting you oneshot everything in the overworld after a point. Some of the best battles are the ones that end up as puzzles you need to solve with proper class switches and using specific items and skills
Do you eventually start swimming in MAG? 20k to carry over the Warrior's capstone skill and they act like I'd want to exchange MAG for $
>>498241552The state is not "other people." It is an institution that claims the geographic monopoly on force and ultimate dispute arbitration. They are closer to a guild of bandits approaching you whiole claiming that you owe them your wealth in a clear attempt at extortion.
>>498241852Sounds pretty based. You have plenty to share, if you won't give it willingly, it'll be taken by force by the majority. Maybe don't sit on more stuff than you need next time.
The village chief is a siscon just like me fr
These Runner bosses were easy until the last one. Adding another while keeping the turn limit is such bullshit especially when there's no where to level grind.
>>498241976So now the mask slips and it becomes evident that you promote the absurd idea of might makes right. Also, it is hilarious how you think it is the majority that will take it by force, as if most people were psychopaths like you, and not another minority (about as psychopathic as you, but not as dumb as you) manipulating the majority (or the perception of what contitutes the majority).
>>498241357>I hope it's like Merciless, a difficulty that is frequently easier than the difficulty below it
The completionist ocd in me is kinda pissed that there are narratives and items tied to some of the king trait interactions with random NPCs in town. I really wanna hear for example the stories the old people tell for imagination stat to the end but dont wanna waste a day on it
>>498242128I do think caring for society's needs as a whole is more important for the foundation of society than respecting individual liberties of hoarding, yes. You hit the nail on the head. Societies all throughout history are poisoned by despots who think their illegitimate and invisible stake in their accumulation of resources is more important than the people who lack in said resources and are dying because of it.
>>498242208Watch them on youtube or cheat your way through the whole story.
>>498242208was he right?
>>498241357i feel like im barely forced to switch my comp around at all on hard, ive had strohl and hulkenberg on their default ones for the 34 hours ive played and they just kind of stomp everything. i imagine regicide makes it so youre kinda forced to switch shit around hence the boost to xp and money you get while on that mode which is why i find it weird as fuck to lock it behind beating the game. like i WANT to experiment with other archetypes but theres hardly any need to
>>498242162This lol. Merciless is a shitty meme difficulty setting.
>>498242342Knight is unironically quite shit on its own though. Hulk would be doing nothing 90% of turns if I didn't pass on media.
>>498241796Its primarily just from grinding, there doesn't seem to be a daily activity to get a bunch. Like I have 30k and I do utilize the mag->money on rainy days if the rate is over 10x. Obviously I don't dump all of it but I do always seem to have enough for when I need to inherit skills.
>>498242342Where are you at in 34 hours, cause I had to swap them off just to get the archetype the final ones require. Like you need 10 Sniper for the last one for Thief lineage so you need 20 gunner then level up 10 sniper. I got Leon on Brawler just for stats/strike damage cause I can't even get his final one yet past Swordmaster
>>498242289Oh so you are just stupid and think economies are a zero sum system and it is merely about le big evil dragon hoarding wealth and people dropping dead due to hunger caused by aforementioned metaphorical dragon. Societies have been poisoned by the enemies of commerce across history, and the social orders that they impose are just as obscene. Clear examples are the URRS and Sparta (with literal cuck tyrants).Without private property, including the ownership of your own body, you are for all practical pruposes a slave.
why is Maria social link so depressing holy shit
>>498242458Knight is your only replenishable source of DEF Down for a while, Pierce too. If I wasn't running phys MC and wanted the Brawler crit buff I'd have one.
>>498242603>Without private property, including the ownership of your own body, you are for all practical pruposes a slave.I'm already a slave to capital. Work or starve, the slumlord guffaws with his hands full of mutton. Hardly a choice. Thank you for arguing for my side, comrade.
>>498242458Yeah, I think Knight's pretty shit too. Still, I stuck with it and eventually got Paladin and Dark Knight and both are pretty cracked Imo.
>>498242673Maria is my adopted daughter wife
>Luck Start4 Str4 Mag4 End4 Agi9 Luck>Assuming that stats are distributed evenly via natural growth23 Str23 Mag23 End23 Agi28 Luck with 3 leftover points>Archetype Mastery Bonuses+16 Str+16 Mag+22 End+18 Agi+14 Luck>Level Up98 PointsAssuming we focus on Str/Agi/Luck on a 2:1:2 Ratio with the leftovers into Str, then we get80 Str, 60 Agi, 80 Luck before other bonuses. Probably an overcap but who knows.
>>498242763>
I can already tell archetype grinding is gonna be mind-numbing
>>498242673it's like they looked back to nanako and said "hey let's make a worse version of this"
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET THIS GOLD BEETLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>498242598waiting for louis' soiree, already did all the side stuff just dicking around now. also theres a difference between literally needing to switch your comp around so they can progress further in their main lineage and needing to switch them because a certain archetype is just a no go for some scenarios but i feel like on hard it doesnt really matter>>498242458knight has god tier synthesis skills, wut? you can literally just spam weakness on things that arent weak to pierce or thunder and later on light or dark
>>498242836Nigga just put 40 points in a row into STR like a real man
>>498243021Once you get to the third-fourth tier, I imagine it'll be easy to grind the second tiers. I don't think you need to be that powerful outside of minmax autism.
>>498243021Plenty of side quests give you fruits to gain a-xp. You can also grow fruits yourself.
Is there any difference between levelling an archetype normally vs using a maxed one and just funnelling all the leaves to the new one?
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I COOK AND READ WHILE NOT ON THE ROAD?!
>>498243021It's not that bad. You sit in your buffed up Archetype, passively gain EXP fruits and then hop over to the next one when you can raise its level enough to be worth it. Can also inherit the new skills into the old chassis.
>>498243182You've got more pressing matters at hand
>>498242710>I'm already a slave to capital.You are not. You cannot be an slave to something that is not sentient. You are using metaphorical language and confusing it for reality in your stupidity. If anything, you are a slave to central banking and states around the world, with select corporations as their partners in crime.>Work or starveThat is something imposed by reality itself, your literal human nature. You would need food regardless of anything.>the slumlord guffaws with his hands full of muttonYou are just painting a picture in order to emotionally manipulate isntead of making an actual, rational argument for the ethical superiority of your position.>Hardly a choice.Again, starving is merely part of your nature and nobody owes you shit merely for existing, except maybe your immediate family. To blame this on private property rights is idiotic. >Thank you for arguing for my side, comrade.Commies are just braindead and delusional. Such a sad thing that they feel entitled to all the death and suffering they cause.
>>498243021nah, keep in mind leveling up an archetype that's mastered gives you a leaf of light and a mastered archetype only needs 1k a-exp
>>498243237I quite literally do not. I need to read them books for achievement.
'ulkin
>time marches on and the age of a new king draws nearer>time marches on and the age of a new king draws nearer>time marches on and the age of a new king draws nearer
>>498241030I enjoy that in Final Fantasy XIV after they had the elf pope as a final boss, the rest of the story set in that country is constantly reiterating that the Church itself, its teachings, and the people that practice it are all perfectly fine, if in need of political restructuring, after weeding out the murderers. And this generates endless seethe from a section of the playerbase that demand that the hero raze the entire community to the ground instead of having to take part in the reconstruction of the faith, because they're mad their parents made them attend church as children.
>>498243315> and a mastered archetype only needs 1k a-expDamn is that right, I wonder if it would be worth to just not swapping off Wizard and just giving my other jobs that 1k a-xp fruit if its not going to make a difference.
>>498243249So hanging homelessness and starvation over an individual's head in order to force them into selling their labour for pennies on the hour isn't slavery, but, what, being unable to privately own a factory is? Brain-dead rhetoric, how shameful of you.
Any quests/bounties in Brilehaven you can do in a single day together? I feel like I wasted a day going to the village outside Martira, only to get a bounty that is in a cave that stops in the town on the way and could have done them in the same day.
>>498243446I'm waiting for the inevitable point in the game where that whole bit changes.
>>498243578idk but i do know that mobs in dungeons during special weathers give a fucking astronomical amount of a-exp
>>498243457You reminded me how good XIV's world building was. Shit's not just x bad y good. At least back in arr and hw. I didn't play after warriors of darkness patch.
I like the Normal Combat Theme
>tfw too stupid for hulkenbergs rank 7 hangoutpaladinbros....
>>498243181Pls respond
>>498243658I do main dungeon first to the end so all the sidequests unlock and get on a long road trip to clear them at once.
GIWTWM
>>498242121Please help I don't want to waste a day.
>>498243798Oh shit there's a wisdom gate for that? What level of wisdom?
>>498241976>>498242289>governments>caring about society's needslmao
>>498242121>>498243932You're fucked.
>>498242693It's also your only source of piercing damage initially.
>>498244027rank 4, all of my stats are evenly spread to rank 3 at this point
>>498243181No. Just go ahead and just stick to whatever currently has the best loadout for your needs.
Neuras' runnersexual is pretty based desu
>>498243926I wish to sniff Hulkie's sweaty armpits, feet, and pussy and ass.
im so goddamn excited to play today.
>>498244240This is definitely gonna be me when I wake up tomorrow.
>>498243621>So hanging homelessness and starvationThose are the default conditions as you come to this world and then people, usually your immediate family, voluntarily provide for you until you can contribute and earn stuff by yourself.>force them into selling their labour for penniesNever happens. Nobody forces you to work for them. If you want to be mad, be mad at those preventing more people from engaging in entrepeneurial activities by artificially increasing the barriers of entry.>being unable to privately own a factory is (slavery)?No, one can be unable to own a factory due to a lack of resources. Someone preventing you from owning a factory despite you having the adequate amount of resources to engage in a voluntary exchange to procure that factory for yourself actually is someone trampling your rights and imposing its will on you arbitrarily. I wonder what kind of people would be interested in preventing anyone else from owning productive capital (and guns). Almost like they want you completely dependent (and enslaved) on them and subject to their whims with no resort. Obviously they will disguise their attempts as something virtuous. It is for the greater good! It is for the people! Rabble, aren't you mad? Why don't you steal that for me and later we, the learned ones, will make everything work out just fine (actually enslaves you)?It is very transparent, yet the most stupid and psychopathic among us always push us in that direction, and most people are just clueless about it because they are too busy actually contributing to society through voluntary relationships instead of dwelling in obscure, leftist literature and disruptive/subversive activism that is later used to justify atrocities.
>>498244050I'll find some way to cheese it.
What did he mean by thisWhat the fuck is he doing in the toilet on the weekends
>>498244395It will be extremely expensive.
>set destination : Komero>thinking it's a new place you can explore, new quests and whatnot>it's literally just a fucking background wallpaper and bunch of dialoguesbravo John Atlus
https://poal.me/wa9o7sI want to know
When does the game get good? I'm like 8 hours in and bored out of my mind
>>498244424Sometimes you have time to do deep introspection if the dump is really massive.
>>498244568sovl...
>>498244660When you reach Shinjuku
>>498244660You won't like it later if this is the case, just quit.
>>498244897But I spent $40 :(
200% render scale and the mod to increase draw distance and shadow quality help the game look a little better but I really hope someone does a texture mod, they look straight out of the PS3 era in most places and the storybook filter draws your eye to them more than obscure them
Hulkens spear crit/weakness animation looks fucking dumb.
>Hashino, angered by everyone telling him that Saturday is also part of the weekend and that the youths haven't had school on it for decades, deleted 2 days of the week
>>498245065She's secretly a dragoon.
Can I force some kind of AA at the driver level for this or do I need the mod?
>>498245117Based.
>3 warriors>spam Peerless Stonecleaver>winWhat the fuck is this bullshit?
>>498245151Need the mod, but its got ghosting issues. I'm tying to see if I can jury rig DLAA into the game
Out of all the activities on the runner, reading with Gallica is the only one where I've chosen "correct" answers for every single time. We're simply just made for each other.
>>498245293RIP, wish my rig was good enough to oversample but w/e.
>>498243749Shadowbringers touches on a few themes that are almost exactly the same as Metaphor.
>>498240464Funny how the church has been historically a force against commerce and her archetype is the merchant. Makes perfect sense.
Is the entire game on hardest difficulty just wipe enemies in two turns on wipe in two turns?
>>498245834Not every encounter, but you should treat it that way because there are plenty that will do that to you.
>>498245151which mod has AA?
>>498245419oversampling still has shimmer artifacts so you arent missing out, im at 200% on a 4070ti super.
>>498241030Dragon Quest is that. Church is evil because Nips are Buddhist.
>>498245419Maybe look into the program "Lossless Scaling". It has a function to force Frame Gen into any game (you're not using the scaling function, disable that and only enable the framegen function). It works pretty well generally and is essentially downloading free frames per second at the cost of some small input lag (don't use it in multiplayer games but in this or other single player games, even reaction based like Soulslike games, I haven't had an issue). You can experience some ghosting at times but it's only getting better over time and results vary across games but I've never had issues. Works even on 10 series cards. It's 5 dollars on Steam but is easy to find to pirate (cs.rin.ru). I haven't tried it in Metaphor yet but it has given me massive frame gains in multiple games.>>498245953It's just Reshade injecting TAA with a custom config (to cut down on ghosting and UI issues) that can be found on the Steam community guides section.
What determines the 30% off days?
>enemy buffs itself>enemy gains 4 turn orbs>enemy wipes your teamsasuga
>>498246235It's crazy how absurdly limited buffs/debuffs are here compared to SMT. I'm lvl 22 and haven't even seen tarunda or rakunda.
>>498244031Compared to capitalists, who would've gladly shredded our ozone and fried the planet not even 50 years ago for a couple bucks profit>>498244378>Nobody forces you to work for them.You say this as if you're offered a lot of choice on who you work for rather than settling. >Wall of text about how private ownership of labour is good.Not interested.
>>49824622329th of each month. So if you're going to buy any of the super expensive stuff do it then.
>Oh this place just has slimes, tentacle things and weird red slimes. Should be easy>The red ones are immune to bludgeoning>Ok I'll just try slash...>They're immune to slash>Ok I guess Hulk has to carry with pierce>They're immune to pierce>Don't have any magic spells>Just keep escaping from battle >Get to boss guarding the exit>It summons two red slimesThank fuck for magic damage dealing items
>>498244378cringe>>498246345Based
>>498246390Why wouldn't you just switch people to mage? Even if their stats aren't optimal for it it's better than doing literally no damage.
>>498246345cringe>>498244378BASED>>498246505cringe
>>498246565samefag
>>498246346Thanks
>>498246514Easy enough to dodge them and eventually they were weak enough to die in OW. The real problem was the boss randomly summoning it after they show you the boss and that it's not a red slime
>>498244031He is a delusional bootlicker.He even believes you must surrender your rights OR THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT WILL END (ignore that the largests catastrophes, ecological or otherwise, have ocurred by the hand of states)It is not a coincidence that the kool aid drinkers of Jonestown ("The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project") were neomarxoid christians.
>>498246341you get def down and atk down from knight and swordmaster, they want you to use synthesis
I love the Brawler synthesis attacks.
>>498247057>use 2 turn icons for debuffSounds not worth it, especially since it expires 2 turns later
Is there any bestiary available somewhere?I want to know which enemies are worth stealing from.
>>498247238Generally any large unique enemy type has interesting shit to steal, the mimics especially
anyone got the artbook?
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/2679460/discussions/0/4697908845433276533/?ctp=2someone uploaded regicide save file, anyone know what they change exactly? or is it just like merciless in persona?
>open chest>party wipedlol
>>498247931
>>498247931Classic.
Finally, a class with some real buffs. Still patiently waiting for Catherina Rank 3 and then there should be nothing I can't fist.
i forgot what a good game felt like... its been so long... only just started but I already know....
>>498248276I felt the same way, you can feel they balanced things pretty well.
I'm kinda tempted to go str+mag...How bad would this idea be?
>>498248453anon, it is the canon path
>>498243315where/when you get this?
Soul Hacker looks so god damn ugly
I found myself overleveled for the second dungeon just by doing side quests and bountiesdoes it fix itself on the third city or is it always going to be this way?feels like SMTVV all over again with how much exp you get by doing what the game wants you to
managed to beat minotaur at level 11 quite a few tries, should I bother going for that accessory I heard about
How's the english dub ? Decent enough or should I stay the fuck away ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV2dgSJJyxQ
Give me a reason to play Metaphor. I like Rise and Futaba if that helps.
You don't need to fight mimics
>>498249153
how do I purify shit outside grand trad?
>>498249727Junah is Rise but 100x better
>You know who she is... Say her name.>What?>Say her name...>... Hulkenberg...>You're goddamn right.
Are there any ways to reallocate your stats?
>>498250329
what the actual fuckis the merchant supposed to give me basically infinite money by fighting overworld shit?
>>498250602It's bugged
>>498250015You don'tYou get teleportation and can come back without using time
>>498250626Bugged how?
>>498250672"chance to give"It gives it 100% of the time
>>498250664huh. what the fuck.
I wonder why they didn't add a way to load your save or return to main menu when you're in combatyou gotta close your entire game to reload..
>>498250626>>498250745shut the fuck up
Holy fuck Soul Hacker paired up with a Dancer or a Warrior is so broken its funny. you get access to a synthesis thats an extreme almighty aoe magic attack that restores MP on hit, so you end up breaking even on whoever casted it and only spending 20 mp.
>>498250825>merchant abuser detectedOHNONONO
>>498250602don't bother grinding overworld shit unless you want to 1shot every mob in every dungeon you enter without a real turn-based fight
This game is hot woke dogshit
>>498250854got near 3million using it as the devs intended, stay mad and broke
Should i buy the Golden Epee? It's 40K with discount
>>498250917>cheating in a single player game
>>498250974If youre still in the Cathedral arc itll last you until the 3rd dungeon, id go for it
>>498251057Guess i'll buy it then. I'm done with Cathedral but i'm still in 4th day
>>498249535Nah, it's nice but not a big deal.
Gunner is cool because it's basically impossible to get ambushed.
So the merchant skill is bugged or not? is it fine if I abuse it?
People at at or past the third dungeon what's your party like?MC - Gunner with commander skillsStrohl - Full warriorHakunamatata - Magic Knight with some healing skillsHeismay - Just thief at the moment, he'll be replaced with someone with more of a magic focusCurrently buffing the comp with the MC, then forcing a weakness to phys with gunner synth and then going all out with Strohl is carrying me against big enemies
>>498251767It turns money into a joke but money is a joke without it. Still lets you afford some of the more expensive stuff fast like the AOE Igniters which will make the game easier. If you want the game to be easier, go for it.
>>498251793Currently waiting for events past the third "dungeon"MC - Faker with Gold Toss and Medi. His job is to debuff and keep people alive, and occasionally deal with a mimic.Strohl - Currently in Commander. His job is to buff and sometimes use his elemental physical skills.Hulkenberg - Magic Knight, but she has Wizard at 10 and all those spells inherited. Her job is to be what passes for the mage of the group and occasionally tank or poke with spear.Heismay - Assassin, but has Gunner maxed. Also steal inherited in every single class he has access to. His job is to steal things and then smack them around.
>>498251793MC - Magic Seeker with Merchant dipStrohl - Swordmaster with Commander dipHulk - Magic Knight with Mage dipHeismay - Assassin with Gunner dip
>>498250745It's mistranslated
>>498251002as opposed to cheating in multiplayer game? i'm not using merchant but there's no reason anybody should care what people do with their single player games.
>>498251793MC- Wizard but I've done 20 in seeker and a bunch in Magic Seeker. Done a bunch in Commander cause you need General for More's quest. 20 in Healer aswell, 15 or so in Merchant. My MC has eaten all those fruitsLeon - Warrior/Swordmaster into Brawler/Pugilist Hulk- Knight into Mage into Magic Knight into WarriorHeismay- Thief into Assassin into Gunner so I can get Sniper
>>498252804yep
Man it sure takes a fucking long ass time before you get your full party in this game. I wonder if anyone is even going to bother using Basilio considering how ludicrously late he joins? It's worse than Haru...
I did the medicine, cooking quests and optional dungeon, is there anything else to do beyond raising social stats and the main dungeon?
>>498253589I don't know if they'll do anything to alleviate it but late joiners start so behind in terms of archetypes as well, I'm already feeling it with Junah where everyone else in my party is way more decked out and she's stuck playing catch up, and there's still two more party members after that. At least in persona the party members mostly start on equal footing (aside from some social link bonuses)
>need masked dancer and gunner if you want offensive mcfuck, junah takes too long to join
Forehead-chan dresses like a mid-40s Chinese housewife.
>>498253589There's a full month and a half left when he joins which has some of the longest content in the game. You're overstating it. Plus, unlike Haru, he's built up before, so theres already some attachment
>>498253589>>498253746Kinda crazy that some games like FF7 give you the entire cast before disc 1 ends and then you have games like this where they give you one so late its hard to connect with them as a character or use them in battle effectively without grinding
>>498254062take the brawler pill
>>498254062what are you waffling about? soul hacker on its own is a top tier mid-to-endgame dps
>Strohl keeps missing non stop>losing my shit>realize near the end of the dungeon the sword I had on him has 65 hit
>>498253589He has an absolutely insane stat layout and Royal Berserker is broken. Hes so good that even when hes so behind he can pull his own weight
Just started the game. This is just medival persona is it? Also can you respec? Or should I read up on how stats work first?
>>498254501Unfortunately you cant respec as far as we know so plan out a build ahead of time. The currently agreed upon standard build for MC is pumping STR and MAG evenly and occasionally throwing some points in AGI and END. Dont level luck its worthless
>>498254587I wouldn't say luck is worthless, but the game has you covered, since you can get a free luck point every 5 days
>>498254587>luck its worthless
>>498251793>>498251751Do you like Gunner? How does overworld gunner work are you literally shooting at a distance, aiming, what?
>>498254337>soul hacker on its own is a top tier mid-to-endgame dps>the top tier mid-to-endgame dps "hybrid" archetype is named after the sickest and raddest 90s cyberpunk gameabsolutely based and blessedcall me johnnyjohnny mnemonic
>>498254681How?
>>498254587Can you just go full MAG? Since the combat system seems like persona where you are targetting weaknesses.
>>498255215Your lock on attack changes to a ranged attack. It is very easy to abuse.
>>498255350use the toilet on every day that ends in 5
just got the healer lvl 10 quest, who did u make the healer?
>>498255437Thanks.>>498255489Hulk-chan.
>>498255435the thing is the MC's unique class you unlock near the end has really good physical skills and really good physical synthesis skills so you want both. that said for the majority of the early game id go magic because seeker->magic seeker->soul hacker is definitely magic focused
1. What's the best archetype and stats to pump to be an edgy "I LOVE ALICE FROM SMT, LET'S ALL LOVE ALICE! DIE FOR ME" type build2. also what's the most aesthetic melee/physical build that isn't just straight barbarian "I HIT WITH AXE!!!! SMASH!!!" shit?I have particular tastes...
>>4982555511. You wanna go down Mage and when you get to Tier 3 be a Warlock instead of an Element Master2. Either Warrior->Swordsmaster->Samurai or Brawler->Pugilist->Martial Artist, pick your poison between sword and fist
>>498255489everyone
>>498255652>Warlockwhere or what is the "small percentage instant kill move" like die for me though, and if you know, is its chance increased by LUK?
Why can't you fucking respec?
Swordmaster is such a weird fucking class. I know T2 archetypes are intentionally not always direct upgrades but Swordmaster is particularly weird. Just four different levels of aoe slashing attacks.
>>498255917You can switch Archetype any time. Skill based game. Use a trainer to change your stats if you're super bad off/regretting shit and on PC, I guess... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Why can't you fucking turn on anti-aliasing? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>498255917You really don't fucking need to. Even if you somehow did something insanely stupid like put all your points into END or something you can still serve perfectly fine as a buffer/debuffer which is a very important role in Atlus games.
>>498255914It doesnt have instant kills I dont think but it is the premiere source of magic Dark damage. If you want Instakills you want to go Thief->Assassin->Ninja Assassin has Assassinate (Dark Physical Attack) and Illusive Dream (Slash Physical attack which both have a chance to instakill. I believe it does scale with Luck, yes, but not to a degree where id build around it.
If someone is in reserve, and you got the bond that gives them full XP, is it also archetype XP? If I can't get people passive XP I honestly won't bother using anyone but the first 4.
>>498256087Thank you.
Do you get anything like the dragon sword for beating the optional spooky eyes ???? boss? I think if I fucked around a bit I could kill it, but I'm not going to bother if all it's going to do is make me more over-leveled.
Do I get punished if I leave a dungeon to do other shit in the world? I don't want to miss any of the time gated stuff but I'm bored shitless in this dungeon
Yet another rapemeat punching bag character
Just about to go kill this Heismay guy. Real piece of work he is kidnapping all these people!
>>498256481If you leave a dungeon the day will end. You'll have to spend another day to go back and finish it. That's about it.
>>498256762So it is basically persona where you have to beat a dungeon in one sitting?
Are bounties treated like quests in that they unlock something? Or are they more of a thing you do on the side, while doing an actual quests that wants you to go to that area?Asking because of time management.
Does this game have choices?
>everyone calls her Hulk, Hulkie, Hulkenberg, etc.>not EiselinI can moan Eiselin while fucking and cumming moaning HULK or HULKENBERG is a challenge.
>>498256508She is a virgin, though.
>>498256810NTA but yeah. Though in this game it seems more lenient in getting shit done within a time frame. You've got a lot more free time spare here so using an extra day really isn't a big deal.
JUNA SAMA UOOOOOOOOOHthat cutscene was fucking kino. Pure Kino
>>498257068What does that matter? Has all of the bimbo whore tropes and fanservice shoveled onto her to degrade her to prop up Atlus waifu Hulkenberg. Made a point of having her useless weak, irrelevant.Just like fucking Ann and Makoto
>>498257170>hulkenbergEupha is canon
>>498251793mc wizzstrohl generalhulk magic sekerheis assassin
>>498256810>>498257161Someone said by the end you've got something like 11 completely spare days.
>>498256810I mean. You don't HAVE to. They wouldn't let you leave if they didn't want to make it a choice. But it's optimal to do it one go, yeah. I dunno how strict the schedule is but you should have at least a few extra days so it's no biggie if you want to leave and come back.
>>498256762ffs what a drag. ty anon.
>>498257230Hulkenberg is the clear Atlus favorite. And Junah is a """Dancer""" too, to add to the bullshit cliche
I love Heismay's social link
>>498257170>Atlus waifu HulkenbergI haven't played it yet admittedly but everyone I've seen say anything has suggested 1. Hulk gets shafted to the side2. Junah is basically the female main character protagonist to your player male protagonist
>>498256810Good fucking luck with the fourth main dungeon. Actual torture chamber
How will they ruin it in the rerelease
>>498257253Yeah. In Persona 5 even I feel like if you wanted to do literally everything you'd need a guide open to plan each day carefully but here I feel like you could pretty easily do it just going in blind. Honestly I prefer it like this cause the time management shit is never actually difficult and it allows me to actually do other things outside of the most optimal choices. I think there was like half of the activities you could do in P5 that I just never touched cause there wasn't a need for it.
>>498257365Not at all. Hulkenberg gets heavy focus in the cutscenes, Junah has little relevance, a few bit lines, similar to the Makoto and Ann dynamic
>>498257365That would be Gallica. She’s the romantic lead
>can't switch classes in battle for half a turn cost>so if you bring the wrong set-up you just have to die and reload instead of being able to salvage things after correcting
>>498256923Mostly the XP from the boss, money and courage, with some bounties also taking place in an area some NPC might give you a quest for.
>>498257461You are lying out of your TEETH. Junah is central to the main plot. If anything Eupha is a more accurate example because she feels kind of shelved compared to the rest of the cast.
>>498257589Thanks.
>>498257562Just swap member for half a turn cost instead
I'm not enjoying the game but I AM enjoying the babes
>>498257365Hulk is the "femdom knight woman" archetype, of course that's always their favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-28cw8AGMYHulkenberg clearly has the least romantic date scene.
I've got about 15 days left waiting for the third main dungeon after having finished all the optional stuffSo far I'd say the game is ok. I think there is way too much recycled content and it would've been fine but the quality of he side dungeons/forests/stories is quite poor and there is very little varietyI'd honestly rather have large main dungeons like Persona or open fields like SMT5 instead of whatever they've done with Metaphor
>>498257823>"femdom knight woman"kino alert kino alert *bangs spoon on pan*
>>498257406Atlus does DLC now like a normal company. Episode Aigis is proof that.
>>498257837It's pretty clear from how they changed her design to make her as unsexy as humanly possible that they REALLY didn't want you to be attracted to Hulkenberg and see her as a heroine.
>>498257956I don't get that. The point is to make her unfeminine and not sexual and "not like the other girls" to make a point that she's the only serious and strong and competent one.
>>498256810You have ample time to do everything, as long as you don't take a solid week to finish a dungeon you're fine.
>>498258080>competent But she’s a fucking DORK!
>>498258164Give me a break, as if Makoto wasn't?
>>498257837>haven't played the game>not averse to spoilers, especially minor ones like this moment>already like Hulkenberg purely because I'm a PROUD HIMESEXUAL, HIMESEXUAL PRIDE WORLDWIDE>it's implied here she's a drunk lush>I know she's also a fucking dork who gets hyped about "idol" Junah>she speaks formally with 1000 IQ about how adding more ingredients to a recipe... results in MORE of that recipemy hype and my flourishing new love only GROWS!
>>498258206Makoto was just a retard. Sae was right to shit on her
How tf are people enjoying this??Am I being punked?Is this what JRPGs are now?
>>498256810The time management in Metaphor is so hilariously lenient that it might as well not even exist.
>>498258271this is one of the best jrpgs to come out in the past two decades you nigger. get over yourself
>>498258271>Is this what JRPGs are now?what do you mean, good?this is GOTYa come from behind kinda game, like Vito from The Sopranos
>>498258318not saying much kek
>>498258318>replying to obvious shitposts from off site cancerous subhumans Anon, your lurking reps
Is it just me or is the difficulty curve quite bad?First story dungeon was hard as balls to do in one sitting, but then everything afterwards feels too easy.Makes me switch the difficulty for the thrird time now.
>>498258369That is also true. The only other JRPG I've really enjoyed this like past decade is Star Ocean 6. Everything else has been ass.
It feels like boss fights favor physical a bit too much.The dragon boss during demo made me think magic will breeze through early game. But then physical class get access to heavy and severe attacks right off the bat and boss fights are balanced around using those skills.Not to mention physical skill can have elemental attacks too. Magic is reduced to "utility" just to gain extra turn.
>>498258412idk the game so far is nothing but wipe or get wiped and reset so I don't know if that counts as difficult or not
>>498258412wait until you get to the fourth dungeon, youll come crawling back to normal
>>498258485That's fine, but I'd like some consistency.
>>498258412>>498258459>>498258485>>498258521Is everyone playing on Hard? I played SMTVV and normal kicked my ass so I went with normal here too.
>that tournament announcement >everyone shits on the MC with his awkward wave Kek
>>498258458What are you talking about? Warrior doesnt even GET heavy single target until Royal Warrior. Magic scales way better early
Does this game have class dependent stat growth? As in if I used a character as a mage a shit ton I can no longer switch to a melee oriented class or will the stats change as if I had levelled as such?
>>498258485The island? I hope so cause the only times the game has been difficult is when I get caught using new archetypes, reload a save and swap to big ones and blast shit.
>>498258412I don't think so. Like the game does get easier, but that's just how RPGs be, the more combat options you have the easier it is. I'm playing on hard and still feel decently challenged.
>>498258542Hardo modu is normal mode. Normal modu is easy. Eehhhhhhh? Easy modu? Only kids play on easy modu!
>>498258459>>498258542I'm on hard yes but only 12 hours in
Damn, Ch2 boss was fucking brutal. Used like 6 SP items and it was still fucking tough.
>>498258574It's not class dependent if you pump 40 strength and go to mage you still have 40 strength and no magic investment afaik, and there are no resetshowever at least for mid-game I've seen people say if you're full strength or vice versa and they're only hit by magic you're better off doing a little damage than next to nothing by switching to a strength or vice versa class...that's my understanding as someone who just started
>>498258569I'm talking about Synthesis Skills. Warrior and Knight get access to severe and heavy attacks that can end boss fight very quick, even in Hard.
>>498258625Yes the Island dungeon is absolutely bonkers. The whole thing is a reference to the Etrian Odyssey series if that paints a picture in your head>>498258542I started on Hard but switched to normal around level 40/45. Random mooks start being able to generate press turns its nutty
so i'm at louis ship waiting for his shit party now and my followers have like 2-3 archetypes maxed . Is there a decent spot to finally grind? The hints to run x for whatever boss on hard are nice but if you lack the archetypes to begin with well then wtf am I supposed to do. Barely passed the 3 Turn shit on the ship and even had to use L3. Kinda annoying.
Worth splurging on the very expensive weapons/armor on Bargain Day?Or just stock up on consumables since you get good gear as rewards/loot?
>>498258574No. Each class has their own stat bonuses that get bigger as you level the class. Swap classes, swap bonuses.
Eiselin Burchelli Meijal Hulkenberg, my beloved
>can't keep playing because my arthritis in my hands is too severegetting old sucks
>>498258816You can do the coliseum, even at night. There is a 30 fight in a row gauntlet. I am not sure if you can do it during the day, and then immediately do it again at night. I am not sure if that is better than doing one of the dungeons and endlessly grinding by respawning enemies.
>>498258874>knife-ear
>>498258835The tuxedo is worth
>>498258874saved the image and absolutely based>>498258918I use knife ear as a loving term instead of a pejorative myself; my kick stream later will likely mention her belovedly hairy knife ears
>>498258869thanks anon
>>498258835Golden Epee and Noble Tuxedo don't get replaced for a good while.
>>498258878were you a carpenter for 30 years spreading grout and caulk by finger? I'm sorry for you Anon but how is your arthritis so bad you can't play a JRPG? damn man that sucks I hope all the drywall punching I did in a rage in competitive games doesn't kill my gaming later but I'll probably be dead by that age from smoking and alcoholism and a sedentary lifestyle
I had chatgpt generate a bunch of titles for a potential stream focusing on Hulkenberg and her hime cut for title inspiration and chatGPT literally generated a title referencing "The Himesexual Agenda".What the fuck chatGPT isn't that against protocol?... Referencing a homophobic "conspiracy theory" in jest?The power of Hulkenberg's beautiful flowing perfect hime cut broke containment.p.s. I literally created the term himesexual you're free to use it but don't claim it as your own just be part of the himesexual brotherhood
>>498258953>>498259083Thanks, bough the tuxedo.
>>498257947anon smtvv was only months ago
>>498258716Press turns are important yes. There are quite a few times for instance where you'll want hama or an elemental inherited skill on a brawler or warrior for flexibility. Even if they're hitting for half what your magic users are it's better than nothing.
>>4982597131. why is there still no nexus mods page for Metaphor?2. they can nerf her ass from hyper-petite vaguely defined butt cheeks in earlier builds to non-descript non-existent butt total sticc-bug tier but they can't make me not love her
>only sliver bar of health left>regen to halfI should've expected that, but still, fuck off
>>498259967NTA literally what is press turn? the ability to use a turn resource without using a turn? because of critical or weakness? I thought from briefly looking at Bravely Default it was a way to like, GAIN turn advantage (meaning beyond just not expending the turn, which is always a thing in Persona if you hit weakness or w/e, preserving priority)
>>498259971We have to wait for LoversLab to do it.
>>498260060Sure
>>498260081they're gonna do insane BBW shit though not tasteful tiny little sticc bubble butt as was found in early video/screenshotsI liked her slender with a little defined petite butt, I don't want mods (for myself, you do you) to make Hulkenberg into a giga titty ass monster
>>498260060Basically there are 4 resource points per party member in a single turnOne action cost a single pointIf you hit a weakness or critical, you only use up half a pointYou can also pass a turn for half a pointIf you missed, you lost one extra pointIIRC if you get repelled or blocked you lost the turn entirely
>>498253556bugfag in shambles
>>498260196I'm fine with small asses, and I get annoyed by the "literally no ass" meme, but Hulk really does have a non-existent, concave ass
>>498258762I am just getting there, and I am going to wager its mainly going to be hard cause there are no side dungeons to level up prior to entering. You just go from this island, buy new gear, and immediately get sent to the main dungeon
>>498258734Mages get access to Meteophor fairly early on. Although most players will probably never see it given that many will commit Strohl to purely phys classes.
>>498260486No, its hard because its a billion fucking floors and rooms. You WILL run out of MP, and the enemies are way too generally levelled to Mage cheese them consistently and safely. Unless youre stocked to the gills with MP items youre gonna have to take two or maybe even three trips.
Is the merchant class passive intended like that? It seems to be 100% and the money it gives is not small ($375 per enemy).
>>498260468I hate that too and the obsession with "large" asses. I love a petite little barely there but still there ass. Which she had originally. But they legitimately changed it from earlier footage and gameplay (not even that old) to now.
Ninja is so OP for ambush wtf. Guarantee aoe weakness hit for all enemies with status effect is cracked.
I fucking love this archetype system so much. I used to think nobody was capable of making a job system better than FFV but this is honestly putting even FFV to shame.
>>498258542I'm about to hit the third dungeon and so far the game isn't that bad on hard. The only time I start shitting my pants is when RNG hits hard and you almost get blown up in 1 turn
>>498259110I worked construction/cable pulling for a decade but easy jobs other than that. I'm just falling apart I guess.
>>498260637It does seem pretty ridiculously overtuned, I wouldn't be surprised if it was bugged. You could easily just run around in a super low level dungeon for like an hour one-shotting everyone and walk out with like 300k.
>>498260637working as intendedsee >>498253556
>can teleport to major towns but not teleport to dungeons you've already visited
It’s amazing how many streamers don’t read the lore about the races and clans which leads credence to all of the stereotypes because some are in fact well earned due to their own actions. Like the dog people
>>498260683MGQP already had a better job system than FFV
>>498242323It love the art style and it looks great for old tech but goddamn the lack of AA takes a big stinky shit on it.
Can someone tell me if the regen event is mandatory in the second boss?
>>498261141BASED And true. Funnily enough, part 3 releases in a few weeks. Can't wait for it to get translated.
Does Hero Passive like Mage's MP heal and Merchant's extra gold only works for MC?He already learned way too many archetype
>>498261592>only works for MCYes
changed Hulkenberg to brawler so she is an expert in slapping the protag’s ass
>>498261592Yes. The MC gets a unique passive for every class that can only ever be active when they are using that class.
should i buy if i don't like the demo?
Faker SC spoilerMy bro Alonzo..... It's the Sun SC all over again......
>>498261979I guess that'd depend on what you didn't like about the demo
This is the first Atlus game that's actually just too difficult for me on hard mode and I might drop it to normal. Jesus they overtuned a lot of this.
>>498261979No
>>498262282Enemies getting an extra icon just feels like the game is fishing for extra crits sometimes, it's a bit ridiculous. And even just one crit can ruin a full-health party, no matter how prepared you are.
RIP, thats a way to go even if I never liked that person...
>>498262384Yeah my main issue is how a single miss or crit pretty much just means a reset half the time when in previous Atlus games I'd probably be able to get away with living (some exceptions of course IE SMT3 hard mode)
>>498262282I admit I'm too shit for the field attack. It can get a bit too chaotic and enemies are able to jump from 1km away.
>that village that sells 300k cost for healer/dancerJunah just got a +187 upgrade, hits harder than anyone now
>>498261081Well no shit 99.9% of streamers are braindead fucking subhuman retards (I'm one of the rare ones who is not braindead and is appreciative of the "art" being played but never stream and get few views when I do).Search "Nier Automata Ending E reaction" on youtube to see how fucking worthless and stupid they all are, chatting and laughing like giggling guses making jokes missing and not being emotionally respondent whatsoever to what's happening on the screen. Japanese Hololive vtubers are literally more intellectually and emotionally attuned to the media they're consuming than 99.9% of "streamers". Streamers are also overwhelmingly left leaning or centrist morons who take immediate face value "wrongthink stereotype bad" messaging as fact without reading deeper into potential intentional developer implications of why such stereotypes exist (what a shock, not unlike real world stereotypes often being earned).
Do you guys think with the quality of the game/world and generally very warm reception that "Metaphor" will become the name for a new ongoing franchise from here on next to Persona and SMT?
>Atlus game with strong Hieronymous Bosch influence based on Thomas More's UtopiaIf I was a schizo I'd probably think Atlus was gangstalking me, this game is as if it was made exactly for me
holy shit the balancing completely goes out the window as you get to fourth town/dungeonenemies get like 6 turns and if they hit a single weakness or the enemy is a debuffer you're completely fuckedwhat fantastic design
>>498261081>>498262776Stop taking streamers seriously. They likely don't even care about the games, they're trying to sell themselves.
>>498261081The whole Paripus being discriminated against because they are open and excitable feels a bit fucked up but also hits harder when you realize that there is a bit of this in Japan considering the general norm is to have a separate inward and outward feeling as opposed to wearing your heart on your sleeve
>>498245431So does Dawntrail, the latest expansion
>>498262776It's of course fine if the game shits on all of the blonde people though
>>498262886No, a world like this doesn't really feel open to a sequel unlike Persona or SMT. Unironically, I think if we get another new IP after Persona 6 it will have action combat hybrid ala FF7 Rebirth. Still need to exploit enemy weakness, can still have a calendar and bonds, but its a larger departure than what they've done. The whole reason to make this was to make a fantasy game, I could see them wanting to challenge themselves in terms of game design
Sex with Hulkenburger
the gauntlet runner absolutely destroys my fps lol. especially the mission table.
honoring grius by giving him a grandson
>>498262956Based looking forward to it
>>498263191She wishes her tits and ass were that big
>>498256104After doing my own testing, I can confirm that if your person is in reserve they get the exact same amount of A-XP as real members. So if you got bonds up alot of Leon/Hulk you can swap one of them out for Junah to start leveling her up without them not getting job XP too
>bought from cdkeys so I can't get a refundfml
Does archetype exp ever pick up significantly? Between the requirements for advanced jobs and inheritance I feel like I'm permanently behind. What sort of archetype level should I shoot for at the 2nd dungeon sandworm one. I have nothing at level 20 or even close besides warrior, but I do want to switch Strohl off that and teach him some other shit.
>>498263562You can eventually grow those fruits, even the one that gives 1k. So you spend a day growing, then the next day harvest for 2 1k xp fruits.
>>498257837I'm never gonna swap off Mage now after getting a weapon from Gallica.
>>498263562Strohl - Warrior/CommanderHulk - Knight/MageHeis - Thief/Gunner5th - Dancer/Faker6th - Summoner/Seeker7th - Berserker/Brawler
holy shit the combat is so fucking boring
Isn't this matarukaja? should I buy it?
>>498263898its just smt
>>498263986It costs 48mp IIRC so its alot
Why do we call characters by their last names? Why is it Strohl and Hulkenberg instead of Leon and Eislin?
>>498263218I absolutely dread the gauntlet runner in motionmanages to tank fps a little somehow despite the huge wasteland outside being PS2 qualitythis game is pure spaghetti code and you can feel it at times
Does the merchant skill scale with any stat?
>>498264037Its a nobility thing, Hulk and Strohl are both nobles. We call the non nobles by their first name
>>498264037because it's a japanese game for japanese peoplethe races don't reprrsent irl races, they represent different japanese peoplenippon banzaijust be glad the game isn't set in tokyo AGAIN and is not preaching nationalism like every SMT
>FF creators swearing up and down that turn-based is dead for the past decade>Atlus proving them wrong yet againYep, I'm thinking turn-BASED
games too hard for me and changing jobs and shit costs way too much. im in this abandoned tomb and im getting reamed. info guy said to bring a thief or rogue or something (i think??) but no idea where you unlock that, the quest almost gave me the impression the cuckulus guy IS the one who gives me rogue. and if i wanted to swap id have to somehow grind archetype exp again anyways. what a shitty system.
Can someone tell me what Royal Virtue to prioritize first?I already got Wisdom and Tolerance to level 2
>>498264392>he did the tomb before finding the abductorskill issuealso learn how to read
>>498264392>hard difficulty is . . LE HARD!whoa
Why is this supposedly higher tier class worse than the warrior, and also inheriting skill that boosts the slash damage costs 20k wtf
>>498264465why would i NOT do that
>>498264631You eventually get a lot of MAG anyway and its a one time cost since you dont have to pay that cost for anybody else who wants to inherit that skill
Is it normal to have my party wiped if the enemies get a turn or two? I'm not far in but have been buying upgrades at shops and not avoiding any fights
>>498264679>cost since you dont have to pay that cost for anybody else who wants to inherit that skillwait what?
>>498264181But Strohl's house collapsed and Hulkenberg's doesn't even like her because she's too much of a meathead.
>>498264761The game is about wiping them before they can wipe you
>>498264465Doing the tomb first is sadly extremely efficient so it's technically correct to do that first.
>>498264679>you dont have to pay for anybody elseYou do
>music canonically plays in your headSchizo sama...
>>498264894so efficient you lose on gettin a second MP-restoring accessory as well as a lot of blessed water
>>498263191Tits too big, shoulders not square enough.
>>498265014It puts you really far ahead in terms of follower levels.
Eldarian lives do not matters
how often do you niggas change jobs? also is merchant good? i feel if i change jobs too much i'll just end up with a bunch of them at low levels and no access to better ones later. this is too overwhemling for my retard brain
How do you change outfits for your characters? Are there even alt outfits if you don't shell out for DLC?
>>498265521Outfits only work in battles/dungeons so its useless IMO
>>498265659>so its useless IMONot if there's a bikini I can put Eupha in.
>>498265478>how often do you niggas change jobs?I stuck with Brawler/Brawler for a long time on my Phys dudes though Knight for Synthesis is great too, Mages have more of a reason to swap between Healer and Mage depending on what you need to target. It's fine to sit on a maxed job since it converts the EXP for anyone to use at a 1:1 ratio and you'll have a good skillset + statline.>also is merchant good?Not great at fighting but has very strong resource generation.
>>498265006Literally me.
So there's a money grinding class, is there an XP/A-XP grinding class as well? There were XP mantras in DDS and this game seems to be developing on the mantra system quite a bit.
>I can take a lot of punishment...
>>498265478A lot of jobs end up requiring partially leveled or completely leveled archetypes on unrelated lines. For instance, Mage Knight requires 10 levels of mage and Gunner requires 10 levels of seeker and one of the Warrior upgrades (samurai, I think) requires 10 levels of General. So diversifying isn't bad, because you can't get to all of the high end classes by proceeding linearly.
So Clemars are japanese and Eldars are brown asian living in japan?
>>498266194I saw Clemar as essentially the middle to upper class majority while Elda are the complete unknown foreigners. Theres more parallels such as Rhoags are being the old traditionalists, Roussainte being the martially/military inclined people and Ishkan being the intellectuals
The game is hard as fuck. I'm on hard but still, more than I expected.
>>498266069Protagonist-kun is a slut! SLUT!
>>498266574It's pleasantly challenging for me so far, only one roadblock at Zorba and smooth sailing from there, about to head into the ship around level 28.
Holy fucking shit that's one disturbingly ugly mofo (ch1)
>>498265014Does Blessed Water even matter?
>>498267039Very much so, its how you purify gear
>>498224829any cute shotas?
>>498266574Its not hard you must be bad i was very disappointed at how low hp bosses have compared to other atlus games
>>498267249I mean I've had more than enough to purify everything I have without bothering with stealing, but maybe I should start, I do only have 2.
Is it just me or is the audio mixing in this game pretty shit? Shit is constantly too loud or too quite.
The last party members awakening scene is so good I'm surprised the hacks at Atlus wrote it. Maybe I kneel after all
Hieronymus Bosch, "The Garden of Earthly Delights"Seem familiar?
where is illegal pirate version + crack
I can't beat Minotaur
>>498268342
Where is the garden on the Gauntlet Runner anyway? I must be blind
>>498268451I wish I could go back in time and show this to Bosch
>in a level 40 dungeon>merchant kills give me nearly 600 perShit is beyond busted, even if it was like a 10% chance once you find those crystals that infinitely respawn enemies you can just farm.
Every retard who was worried Basilio would feel underdeveloped like Haru because he joins late is a leather munching retard. This fag is so charming
So the game is basically setting up you becoming ruler of the whole continent right? I'll be disappointed if that's not how the game ends.
It takes way too fucking long to get the fourth party member, holy shitFor a while I was scared I was gonna have another dogshit DDS-style party layout of Damage/Healer/(De)buff
>>498225338ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?AM I SUPPOSED TO COMB THE GAYASS TOWN EVERY DAY FOR STUFF THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP ON THE MINIMAPS?
How scarce is blessed water? I ran out somehow.
>Human bad
>>498269597Can't be. I'm human and I'm good so human must be good.
>>498269307I have like 15 of them. Use Steal.
>>498269764Roughly when do I get a thief without outright spoiling it. Before or after the giant worm dungeon?
>MC witnesses live executions, murder, child murder and fights demons>BUT GOD FORBID ANYONE EVEN SUGGESTS HE DRINKS AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE AT SUCH A YOUNG AGEwhat the fuck is this retarded translation, the main character doesnt even look underage, he looks around late teens to early 20s, why are the translators so fixated on him not drinking alcohol. Please let me know if this "oh its just water in this sake cup" shit is in the original script or is some retarded addition by some prude doing translations
>>498269823right after giant worm
>stole from multiple orgas in that tower>purify it>free tarukaja for whole parrty on battle startoh cool so now random battles are even more easier, enemies really need more hp/ stun is too powerful
HOLY shit.
>>498269838its the same in the original script you mongoloid
>>498269861Right, thanks. I guess it's smart to save the tomb dungeon for after too then going by the information I bought. Pretty fun game.
if you hit one of the endless red crystal spawners by mistake, then teleport back via item to entrance, it heals them back to 100%
>>498269838it's not even witnessinghe canonically kills a number of armed guards
>>498269938Did it beat silent hill?
>>498269838MC is canonically 18
>>498269940then its just shit writing, like bat bro feeling pity for the duchess child killer and not putting his sword through her head right after the boss battle. Just give the main character some fucking mead after killing another 15ft demon
>>498270143wow youre just an actual retard huh. like actually a nigga who doesnt even read the subtext huh
>>498269838>muh prudesHoly faggot crying over non issues.
>>498269929how much damage boost it x1 attack buff in this game
>>498269938Just keeps going up huh. Although Ill be surprised if it breaks 6 digits. This is as far as it goes I feel
>>498270143Maybe he doesn't like to drink. Are you genuinely retarded? Why are you getting so hung up on such a stupid thing?
>>498270132then why the fuck do they refuse to let the fucker drink and always talk about giving him water specifically when others are drinking spirits.
>>498268439
>>498270267he never gets given a chance, every time they take away the drink and specifically tell the MC they poured him a water instead of alcohol, its offensive at that point, let the Elda drink
>>498269938Nooooooo, now we're never getting another Etrian Odyssey...
>>498270270because hes the youngest out of all of them? strohl is 3 years older, hulkenberg was an adult in the army when he was 12, dont even get me started on heismay or grius. the only other party member whos maybe around his age is Eupha
>>498270113bloober didnt even deserve over 10k players for this dogshit remake
>>498270492>I don't get to use the same exact skill for 20 hoursthe horror
Are there certain priorities you should assign to certain daytime activities? Or can you do whatever and still not miss out on anything?
>>498269838muh nipponese culture they'd get a higher CERO rating if they showed "underage" drinking
>>498270520still retarded he's not a little kid, seems more like bowing to some stupid teen game age rating alcohol laws
>>498270492I wouldn't be so sure, anon...
>>498270687funny you have blood spurting out of open wounds, executions on the street and people being eaten alive but cant show an 18 year old fantasy creature drinking some ale
Inclement weather basically disabling the press turn system for you is so fucking stupid
>>498270890should have paid the weather girl retard
>>498270860Anon I know you're retarded but the logic is very easy to understand. Seeing a public execution doesn't make someone want to publicly execute someone but seeing drinking depicted could indeed make someone want to drink. It's about the degrees of separation from reality.
>>498270562lmao thats kinda sadSH remake will win all the awards over Metaphor because “muh graphics” and “muh dark and disturbing (lol) realism” and also “ew, anime game? gross cant have that one win”
>>498270890You get more xp doughever
>>498270991You gotta deal with it in the giant sandworm cave since it's when the game first introduces it,
>>498271051Fuck you, I was addicted to executing people once and you're being very insensitive.
Do I have to pay for inheritance for every single job? So if I inherit Bolt on my healer, I would have to pay for it again if I want to inherit it on warrior? (On the same character)
>>498271474No, once you buy it, it's unlocked forever
>dungeon east of Grand Trad that is mid 40s>single goblin caster is alive after taking out 2 cyclops>using his 2 turns he just AOE fires, weakness hit, and AOE blizzard, weakness hit and just instantly uses all 4 of his attacks to kill my party in one goJesus christ you really cannot let enemies get even a single turn.
>rat people are chinesewhat did atlus mean by this
>>498271581You are what you eat
Persona 3 FES and Persona 4 Golden are some of my favorite games ever.I did not like Persona 5 or Royal.The characters, music, and plot were all worse. The "puzzles" in the dungeons were somehow more tedious than the randomized layouts of 3 and 4. The rebellion theme sucked compared to the themes of Death and Truth.Where will I land on Metaphor?
Do you ever get more archetype exp in this game jesus. Switching a lot feels like it punishes you badly.
>>498271732It's definitely not as casualized as P5 was.
holy batman the enemies in this dungeon is pure cancer
why do I sometimes sprint sometimes not?
Why does this nigga mc look like P3 MC
>>498271890I'm having flashbacks knocking them to 20% health then the first thing they do is soul scream into murdering my part. The skelly dude is especially bad because he can spam megidolaon the ultimate fuck you button.
>>498271732This is my favorite Atlus game tied with SMT IV and EO5 right now
>>498271998You see...Door-kun and Aigis loved each other very much...
World of STR or Magic for MC? There seems to be a lot of Phys party members.
>>498272150LUC
>>498271732Overall theme and atmosphere are nothing like persona, it's a more traditional jrpg story where you control a young swordman to beat the evil military general while saving towns on the way.Social gameplay and exploration are lifted off P5 but that's it.
Luck build is a meme
>>498272119>MC has a slightly darker skin tone than his father because he was born from a toasterIT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
>>498272402>Luck build is a dreamFixed
>>498246341Pretty sure you can just outright buy them as items and some equipment has that on
>>498269654>DUDE FOOD LMAO
>fallen party members don't receive expI think this game SUCKS
>>498254413I didn’t even know there was a weapon with hit that low
This teen rated game has a lot more child murder than I was expecting. The entire chapter with Heismay is basically child murder themed.
>>498225934persona if he ff5 jobs and cross skills. I'm still ???early??? in the demo though so I don't have much to add to conversation. You can do kingly shit during the day that's your persona stuff, and then the archetypes are jobs with job skills you can cross cover other jobs with. I love that shit. It's FF5 style get AP get skills unlocked max out jobs give other skills to other jobs. Combo jobs from leveling certain jobs. Love it. Collectors edition arrived yesterday and I'm trying to beat the ???first??? story dungeon I think.
>cleared that manticore/lion thingy>cleared the minotaur>level up relationsDo more quests pop up as time passes? Right now the only things I have left is raise the kingly stats.
>>498270492>all future games are just teacher fucking simulator with a monster killing minigameI just wanna draw maps .........
Why didn't Grius give her a kid of her own?
>>498273432Built for shota protagonists
The Japanese voice cast is so damn good
>>498271848>>498272116>>498272250Cool, thanks. I /want/ to like it but am just apprehensive after being so disappointed when I hyped 5 so hard for years. I'm not saying 5 is bad or anything, it's fine in a vacuum but 3 and 4 just spoke to me while 5 bored me.Hopefully being its own thing will differentiate itself enough in my mind to allow myself to enjoy it without comparing them too hard.
Are rare items sales (the one with green text) affected by bargain day?
>>498273545Honestly I'd say to me Metaphor feels closer to SMTVV than it does Persona 5.
>>498273542I usually do the English dub for my first run, but I was surprised since this time it was LITERALLY English. Like, it feels like I'm playing Xenoblade with all of the Welch, Scottish and English voices.
Multiple plot twists just unfolded in front of me in like 10 minutes.....
Is Metaphor as long as P5? I'm worried I'm going through it too fast...
>>498273992It's unironically longer
>>498273545>3 and 4 just spoke to me while 5 bored meI had opposite experience desu. I think it's a lot to do with your expectation and maybe personal experience too. 5 was my first and the story was really relatable personally, raising my expectation for 3 and 4 but the expectation was just too high for them to deliver.
>>498258874>>498270237
>>498274308It's weird how 3 was the one I constantly saw people raving about but ended up being by far my least favourite. 4 is probably the one I liked most. Reminded me of Jojo part 4.
PERIL
>>498274039>Follower Rank only goes to 8>You don't need to farm social link points any more, every time you spend with your companions you get a rank upI feel like they'd only do stuff like this if they were intentionally trying to trim the social sim elements to fit the length of the game.
How many main dungeons are there? Are they all fairly lengthy? Average playtime?
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE WHAT DO I BUILD THE MC FOR
>he's having a MP problemcouldn't be me
>>498271051>Seeing a public execution doesn't make someone want to publicly execute someoneSpeak for yourself, I'm literally Charles-Henri Sanson.
So, how many more Ls is this angry pointy eared guy gonna catch after that showing in ch2?
>>498274673PLEASE FUCKING TELL ME
>>498274861He gets raped
>>498274794Build for Magic/Hybrid. The Mage Archetype is free MP via overworld fights, and neither Strohl nor Hulkenberg are amazing casters with their stat growths.
>tarunda consum costs like 100 per in 3rd city>sukunda costs 500 per in 2nd cityweird, also faker sucks when you can just buy consumes
Louis' galaxy brain plan was a little too unbelievable I think...... Things just worked out for him at every steps.
>>498273432>>498273483She looks like she'll absolutely destroy shotas in bed
>>498274979Brochama it's a 100 hour JRPG. I doubt anyone here has finished the game yet to know the answer to your question.
>>498270562stfu. sh 2 remake is great. just finished it befor etsarting metaphor
>>498274619The social gameplay is now only a part of the game instead of revolving around it.
What a tempting option...
>>498275079So MAG/AGI/END? Need any LUC?
time marches on, and the age of a new thread draws nearer...
>to get the final archetype in Gunner you need to>get 20 in knight, 10 in mage, 10 in magic knight, 20 in gunner, 20 in sniperJesus christ the endless grind
so, does an archetype influence what stats get leveled up when you do?
>>498276064oh and 10 in seeker for the sniper unlockThen you got Brawler which is just a straight line of the same tree
How does he keep carrying a company by himself?
>>498276064I dont know if anybody is already in the endgame but I do hope we get a convenient place to grind at some point...
>>498275682Honestly, you can ignore AGI and LUC. I'm not missing attacks, I just usually go last or second to last in my team's order. And since magic doesn't crit and statuses are mostly lame I'd ignore luck. But with strength you can take Commander and General which are magically oriented STR classes with great buffs.
Kind of a noob question, but does this game want you to fight every ennemies ? I always fight every ennemies when I play a JRPG, but in this game I'm currently in the Cathedral and they drain out your MP so fast that I don't feel like I should do that. That and the fact that some of the strongers ennemeis (eyeball thing and gargoyl) give you shit exp and are immune to physical damage, so you need to cast to kill.
>>498276064literally all i need. you cant even properly farm since theres only like 2 high rank monsters per dungeon and the low rank ones get obsolete once you kill a few. i'm tired of going to akademeia and back to get the one chimera to respawn so i can get some proper fucking exp.
>story says MC has a destiny of a king>allies are described as followers implying a subordinate relationshipIs this not kind of a spoiler that the prince is going to die at some point cause how do you become kind when the rightful ruler is still around?
>>4982445682D Fieldbros...
>>498243407Hulkencute
>>498276985no one knows that and it doesn't have to become public that the prince is still alive
Magic Recovery is broken. It's too strong and makes resource management and MP conservation completely pointless. It's a bit depressing>just don't use itno. I'll abuse it and hate the game for it.
>>498276962nah don't fight anything
Is this one of those video games where you have to move around and stuff? I like visual novels.
Heismay's social link should have an option to call him father...I just want him to be happy
>>498276985The whole MC will be king thing feels really weird. Like the game keeps saying it and enforcing the idea out of the context of the story but in the story it's never brought up or referenced so it kind of feels like the game is getting ahead of itself. I feel like it would have made more sense to keep all the hints hidden until later and only when it's actually relevant to the story bring up the references to MC becoming king.
what's the point of endurance? do I even pump stats into it?Also, this game seems like it's better be pure offense for combat. Magic doesn't increase healing and seems weak other than hitting weakness. feels like it's better to just go 2x War arch and stack atk with 1 dodge tank.
Holy fuck the Guptauros doesn<t mess around. Even at level 20 it,s over the second you either miss or he crits.
>>498278164Upgrade your weapons, everything scales with it.
What the fuck is this translation, like what the fuck is More talking about "killed"?Is this supposed to be a metaphorical death?
I've been dumping all my points in MAG. Is there a soft cap I should be aiming for where equipment and the stat improving items will carry it to 99?
>>498278240that's how basically the entire game is on hard as you hit the fourth town/dungeon
>>498278428You're a retard. Stop playing like this is SMT.
I hope this game has a NG+ mode like SMTVV where the stat cap gets upped to 199. It seems too easy to get to 99 normally.
>>498277865yes...
Trickster might be the only job that looks good no matter who's using it. The colour spread is very nice on it.
>>498276969might as well just turn on the one hit kill cheat then, I mean to each their own I guess
>>498278602looks like this isn't the game for me. Thank you
>dungeon top right of the dragon temple on an island>enemies are mid 30sWhat the fuck I am 41
Reminder that if you don't take a shit every Friday for the free +1 permanent luck, your save is bricked.
>>498278626how is one shotting everything the same as reducing the gay grind? use your brain next time.
>>498279054Isn't it rainy days rather than Friday?
>>498278626But you can already one hit kill enemies...
>>498279131Mayhaps. I just got it on Friday so I assumed it was that.
so much grinding for skills.I really wish you had 4 members in your party instead of only 3.Feels so limited
>>498278515I never played any Atlus games.
Don't bother cooking on the runner before you unlock rank 4 Maria.
k-kowai...
>>498279314How about you play the game?
>>498279092>how is one shotting everything the same as reducing the gay grind?they're both cheating
>>498279647I do what I want thanks babe.
>this dungeon is super duper hard, make sure to get stronger by doing bounties and quests before you tackle it!>the side dungeons are way harderWhat did fatlus mean by this.
>Luck MC>Str/Mag/Agi/End on level up>Take a shit on days divisible by 5 for the free luckYep, I think I've got it.
>>498279131>>498279054Its Idlesday, whichever that falls under. Not weather.
>>498279054You think they would put stuff like that in your face
is there any amount of choices matter in this game? like routes or just in the way the mc develops relationships with npcs
>>498280413Yes.
>>498280075I think the have to beat them in three turns is fucking horrible
>>498244560Cheesed it.
>>498279838one merely reduces the time you have to inevitably waste, one breaks the game. again, use your brain.
Just how many story chapters are there? I am at the 2nd city after Grand Trad, around 20 hours in according to Steam stats, but it feels like plot is picking up very quick
>>498280163It's so over for me. I didn't start taking shits until end of Ch2...
Do quests show up on the map? Can I just pull it up and look at all the subareas to see if there is a quest in town?
I was on the fence about having a fully voiced protagonist, but if they keep up this level of SOVL with an above average seiyuu, then it will keep being kino.
>>498278348Pretty sure he's dead and in some weird limbo prison.
>>498280962Yes, make sure to check and take them all
I heard there is a mausoleum quest that must be taken before going there. Where is it? Something about killing skellingtons.
>>498281038I wasn't. There hasn't been a single case where I didn't think a voiced MC would be better. Completely takes me out of the scene when people just talk and MC just stands there like a lemon and then they still act like MC is charismatic.
>>498281038Me? Nothin...just dorkin around, with Dorkenberg!
>>498280605>not waiting for the inevitable mitama DLCngmi
How often do you niggas change jobs? I feel it's so punishing with only 3 party members. I've only swapped the MC and Hulkenberg for a little bit in the first dungeon. Strohl is on his 2nd advanced job but I'd much rather fuck around with gunner or merchant or something.
>>498281443JRPG? Needs a voice. WRPG? Get that shit outta here. Shrimple as.
>>498266732Its boss fight posture reminds me of DQ sprites
>>498281423Its later, you finish the cathedral main story and later a side quests takes you back into there in locked doors you couldn't access beforehand. You get 2 quests I think to go back in there, one for skeletons and the other for a boss
>>498281423You cant miss it, the guy is literally at the entrance
>>498281483that literally ruins the game by replacing normal enemies though
>this fucking goblin tower full of 3000 hp ogres and king mimicsYeah this was a mistake.
>>498231313how tf do you get steal? which job er archetype?
>>498266732those eyes are SEXO though
>>498282081thief, you unlock it during the story
>>498281526I've basically kept Strohl and Hulkenberg as warrior and knight, while giving them some low investment skills to switch around for coverage like fire/ice/hama/medi/sleep shot/punch
>>498282214I made a mistake of trying to bruteforce it earlier when you are supposed to avoid it and I ended up just wasting a bunch of resources for so little
Is it worth it to waste time raising MP and HP in the runner? t2y8p
We need a doujin of Pedro and Prince having sloppy twink sex asap
Is Regicide doable first playthru?Or should I stick to Hard? Or Normal?Is Normal too easy?
>>498282393The captcha does not go there.
>>498282507You can't pick regicide
>>498282507it's pretty challenging, it's no personadon't let the restart battle button fool you
>>498282604You can't?Then should I just do Hard?
>>498282507Hard. Normal mode is easier than P5R.
>>498282675>easy modu?
>>498282675hard is difficult enough especially as you reach midgame
>>498282764 thread
>>498266732This nigga is one of the most horrifying things I've seen in a while "horror" games should take notes.There's something about those eyes I really can't stand.
>>498264446Imagination
>>498268342Kinography
>>498282761>Eupha laughs>She's still looking at me while she does it
>this whole worm scene>the fucking fart sound
ARCHETYPE SEXOOOOOOOO
>>498277608If it makes you feel any better, I don't need MP conservation to begin with using Brawler stuff as my main DPS.
Is there any place or way to farm blessed water for purification?
Is there a point to doing redgrass bidou over helping if you don't need the consumable?
>>498287061just have to steal it off the greater mimic enemies, you can steal one and get a chance for them to drop one too. get a few levels of merchant on everyone and inherit the skill that increases drop chance
how do you change the battle theme with the dlc packs? also are there photos of all the costumes?
>>498289282Is there any place with respawning mimics though? >>498293561Main character's outfit sets t he bgm. There's a youtube video of them.
>300 reeves per skeleton that spawns endlesslyOh yeah, I'm getting RICH
>>498289136I think you need to do that one to get the quest for the guy who wants to work in restaurants or whatever
