Gachiframe editionPrevious thread >>498272724Buy Plathttps://vocaroo.com/1jJoefGnh5lT>READ the pastebins and Wiki BEFORE asking questionsGENERAL FAQ: https://rentry.org/w2mfb4akAdditional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: https://rentry.org/6mypnqqp>/wfg/ Alliance4Funbros: contact ddaavveeFTW>/wfg/ ClansWarbros: contact KillsawOblivion: contact Wxu. or Geogre512>Notable linksWiki: http://warframe.wikia.comAlerts and other timers: https://tenno.tools/Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.marketRiven Prices/Calculator and other utilities: https://semlar.com/Relics tool: https://wf.xuerian.net/Droptables by DE: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/809777-warframe-drop-rates-data/Builds, Tierlists, and Damage Calculator: https://overframe.gg/Frames and Modding: https://rentry.org/zcav453eBooru: https://wfg.booru.org/DPS calculator: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/Stream Times: https://warframestreams.lol/Guide for Returning Players: https://www.warframe.com/fr/news/returning-player-guideCURRENT UPDATE: Koumei & the Five Fates: Hotfix 37.0.6https://www.warframe.com/updates/pc/37-0-6CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Sevagoth Primehttps://www.warframe.com/prime-accessCURRENT EVENT: Nights of Naberus 2024https://www.warframe.com/news/nights-of-naberus-2024
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I hate the russchizo.I hate the wokeschizo.I hate the catschizo.I hate the magschizo.I hate the valkyrschizo.I hate the novaschizo.I hate the wispschizo.I hate the redditschizo.I hate the frogschizo.I hate the TFDschizoI love the Θεmatic anon.I love the Kubrow bros.I love my trans folks.I love diaper nezha.I love Warbros.Warbros #1Trans rights are human rights!
>>498372424TURN IT OFFTURN IT OFF
>>498372424don't mind if I do
>>498372569thematical relation to warframe?
>>498372671The game's playerbase and general's quality would improve as a result
>>498372225I'm not sane.Pablo, buff Valkyr.
>>498372705UnderstandableHave a very thematic day
delete alchemy
Help! I got stabbed...Call 112 and ask for the Turku department...
>>498372754it's over thematicbros....
>>498372754were you in England when that happened?that would be very thematic
>>498372754vittu perkele
Decided against my better judgement, and started farming Citrine. Can anyone explain to me why people leave before rotation C? Like are you really here for the two tries at Corufell, and nothing else? Are you just that unconfident in the drop chances that you decided to speedrun rock farming? It could be the Neo relics, but i assume there are better places to farm them.
I fucking hate all of you
>russchizo is now larping as a tripfagThis is what an insane person looks like folks
>>498373051can you prove this?
>>498373034only mrlets who do that node for starchart completion leave earlier than C imo
>>498373121then why do they always leave on waves two and three?
>>498373051You can't prove anything, faggot.
wtf is happening
>diaperfag just wants builds>constant shitposting from Eastern HemisphereOh fuck /wfg/ is becoming /dng/
>>498373458>>498373465SBB
>>498372671None. Not even hiding it behind "grineers"
>>498373458EU hours
I'm Australian thougheverbeighto.
>>498373518>NOOOOO I DON'T WANNA GO BACK>*dies of no-content*
>>498373663kek
Ostron women love Big Grineer Cock.
>>498373993You don't need to remind us russchizo
>>498374050>t. ostron cuck
>>498374050is this why you are in the perpetual state of seething?
>>498374238>he's making fun of me>that means he's seething
>>498374331I can hear you smashing on your keyboard in rage tubby
>>498374331>xhe's cluelesslol
I too am in this thread
>>498374391>>498374394>THE BOYS ARE IN SYNC
>>498374425Yet the only person having a melty is the bumperfag, curious...
>>498374507>bumper melty
bjmp
Has anyone noticed a correlation between the quality of their drops ingame and the levels of shitposting in the thread?
>>498375226Only diaperfags could play enough to notice that
>>498375405go to the bathroom you're shitting yourself
I'm MR16 on main, I've been playing the game for 8 years.I just don't really care about getting all the prime weapons and variants and maxing them, or maxing regular versions of frames I have the prime of when I don't need their Helminth ability, and therefore my MR will not move.I have some builds that will destroy level cap, I have builds that will not allow me to complete a steel path mission.That's the thing with Warframe, outside of a "new player matchmaking" where it groups >MR8 , the power balance will still be wildly randomHell, there are people that try to go as far as they can on MR0.
will they ever add the new frames to Circuit? I don't want to grind a lot of these frames
>>498376335>I'm MR16stopped reading after thatign? come to orbiter
How do I cheese the grendel parts missions
>>498376569hildryn with pillage augment
>>498376335Account level is not skill representation. More things you level up > higher your account level will be.This is consequence of DE politic about new content and fear of any late game content because kuva karak players would scream made huge loop. Look at new Compei mission. Normal for new players and SP (normal difficulty in minecraft) for veterans. Guess what? DE again is scary of any actual mechanic because netflix players would scream and SP verios is waste of time.What I do when I want my copmei? Pink carpet oberon and clear whole mission solo. Its fun for new players? No. Should I play SP? Yes. Will I play SP? No as long "difficulty" in DE mind is "I will cut your leg, enemy will have 99.99999% DR and I will cut your arm".In the end you get many nuke warframes in low level mission and you are definition of netflix player. Go forward, grab loot and "enjoy" your "gameplay".
>>498376335>>498376690Why bother with copy pasting reddit postsNever understood this trend
>>498376775>why
newfag here, do you guys actually play this game or is this another drama general?
>>498377820yes
>>498372225>New week>Log in>Complete archon hunt>Complete non autismo nightwave challenges>Each day after get the daily log in bonus>Rinse repeatLast fun thing for me was railjack and even then I CBF to complete intrinsic farm. Demios a shit. Kahl a shit. Duvari a shit. Plz DE send fun.
>>498377820Name a single general where mental ill attention whores don't try to kill their attention source.
>>498378002
>>498377820most of the time it's normal, sometimes shitposters cone to shit up the thread. None of the in-jokes here are funny and most of them is just shitty coomer spam or discord tier groomer memes. Everyone here is bored so don't draw attention to yourself unless you feel like being bullied or being the butt of a joke. every now and then you'll get some good advice but most of the time it'll be anons calling you retarded with no explanation. sometimes we'll argue about the lore, dmg types, or how well a character can scale but that usually makes one of the local schizos mad so he'll start shitposting harder. most of the thread will be a mix of shitposting you should filter and people blogposting about their experience in-game.
>>498378557thanks, do anons play together in here usually or does that not happen/only in the clan?
>>498378815due to schizos and meanies everyone's too scared to post their ign. there was a clan called warbros but they're basically dead now and just used for more shitposting and tricking newfags into embarrassing themselves. You can get away with posting your ign if you aren't a sperg, it's really only an issue if you're namefagging and giving one of the schizos more ammunition to shit up the thread.
test fuck gookmoot
how do we fix stealth?
>>498378557>so don't draw attention to yourself unless you feel like being bullieddid you use this strat in high school?
>>498379770Fixing stealth mechanics in Warframe can involve several approaches to enhance player experience and effectiveness. Here are some ideas:- AI Improvements: Enhance enemy AI to make them more responsive and aware of their surroundings. This could include better line-of-sight mechanics and more varied alert states.- Stealth Mods: Introduce new mods or rework existing ones to provide more diverse stealth options, such as reducing noise when moving or adding temporary invisibility during critical moments.-Environmental Interactions: Create more interactive environments that players can use for cover or distractions, like creating noise or using objects to hide.- Visual and Audio Cues: Improve the indicators for stealth status. Clearer visual effects or audio cues can help players know when they’re being detected.- Mission Design: Revamp missions to encourage stealth gameplay. This could mean more objectives that require stealth, or adding stealth-only missions with unique rewards.- Reward Systems: Implement rewards for players who successfully complete missions using stealth, such as increased loot or unique achievements.- Stealth Frames Balance: Reevaluate the balance of stealth-focused Warframes to ensure they’re viable in both stealth and combat situations.Implementing these changes could make stealth gameplay more engaging and rewarding for players in Warframe.
>>498379875I must express my strong conviction that your ideas are fundamentally flawed, and it raises the possibility that you may possess Russian affiliations.
>>498379875>>498379945Shut the fuck up
how do we fix railjack?
>>498380017It's perfect as it is
>>498379981Struck a nerve, did I? Reminder: take meds, rent free wukong zarr shitter having a meltdown, i accept your concession
>>498380043>hurr durr buzzword buzzword buzzwordCool, now you can hang yourself by the balls.
>>498380103>Saw console wukong with zarr the other day, nasty creatures! Oooooh never seen THAT post this thread, quality post my man
>zarrliterally who the fuck complains about zarr
>>498380169>rent free
>>498380296I love how you just got ANGRY at that post. Like, you couldn't even begin to fathom a serious response to it, or ask a question to find out what you might be missing. You just instantly felt threatened and made an angry retort, lol.
>>498380250I love zarr (alt fire)
>>498379945You know it's possible for people to notice things that aren't about you, right? You know that this general doesn't revolve entirely around your vendetta against russchizo, right? Unless you're admitting that you're the one constantly shitposting about how not liking a thing means you aren't good at that thing.
>>498380540There's a fine line between flawless and legible. Sadly you're no where near either of them. If you spent as much time as you did shitposting to learn English then you might actually be able to blend in with the other ESLs here who can actually type it well.
>>498380390>meltylollmao even
>Someone says the B word>It suddenly summons him and he spams the threadYou guys were right.
>>498380632>b-wordbjmp?
>>498380632can you stop b-wording then please?
>>4983806598O plat
>>498380714
I let /wfg/ get in my head so much that i'm explicitly using grammarly to check all my posts before posting so no one calls me ESL
>>498381393now that is an esl thing to do. PRIVYET
>>498381393>so no one calls me ESLWho fucking cares? Even mutts themselves don't know their own language. ESL checks come from the other ESLs like finn mongoloids and the rest butthurtbelters.
whats this incarnon shit
Lies of P fucking sucks Is Warframe fun now?
>>498382034yes because steve is gone
>60% kuva zarr 555 rifle crit on call>kahl>dante spectreeasy EDA
>>498382346THAT'S NOT FAIR!!111!!!111!!11!!1!
I haven't watched the leaks myself, but the fact that no one is talking about the 1999 gameplay posted last thread must've mean it's really mediocre
>>498382472it's duviri 2 without Steve's visionmeaning giga goyslop
>>498382472Where are they?
>>498382472I M SO EXCITED FOR RAJNEESH VOLT
how do we fix rollslop guard users?
>>498382671Is he faster than a train saar
>need 600 more thrax cummies for Gyre
>>498382989he can travel to duviri and back faster than poo hit the loo.
My friends, it has often been said that I dislike Wisp. My friends, I dislike Wisp... No, friends, I despise Wisp!I despise Motes. I despise Breach Surge. I despise Wil'o'Wisp. I despise Sol Gate, teleporting, I hate triangulating two breach surges, and decoy switching for invulnerability. Wisps across plains, in ships, in space, in infested hellscapes, in frozen tundras, through deserts, on the sea, in the air, I despise every act of Wisp that can occur upon this earth.I hate blasting the enemy to smithereens with Bramma salvos that thunder across the lines of battle. My heart leaps with anger whenever a Grineer is tossed high into the air and cut to pieces by well placed explosive rounds. And there is nothing worse than an operator using a hardened wellspring to buff her motes. And the feeling that comes when a Corpus runs screaming from his irradiated MOA, only to be mowed down by heavy kitgun fire, is such an dogshit feeling. Reminiscent of when ranks of infantry brandish their prods rushing into the enemy line. It makes me seethe deep within my heart to watch a Wisp meleeing over and over into the bloated chest of a long-dead enemy.Gentlemen... All I ask for is total Wisp death, total Wisp death so grand as to make Hell itself tremble. Gentlemen, I ask you as fellow brothers in arms what is it that you really want? Do you wish for no more Wisp as I do? Do you wish for a removed, deleted Wisp? A Wisp whose no longer in the game? Do you ask for Wisp to be thrown out like trash, leaving not a single trace of her pitiful existence!?...Very well. Then hatred is what you shall have. We are a clenched fist, ready to strike down all who oppose us with our might. But... After enduring over half a century wallowing in the darkness, for us, a simple "ordinary" seething will no longer be sufficient. We need MASSIVE hatred! A seethe beyond any other that man's history has ever known!
>>498383383You are late.
Where is magposter?
>>498383445conscripted
>>498382472its literally just warframe with humans and a new kdriveIt needed a Duviri twist
>>498383437Shut the fuck up Albrecht
I'm a PSF gamer.
>>498381393Diaperfag
I am once again officially out of stela...
>>498385596/wfg/ has a long history of it>>289491610 >>289491913>>290226704 >>286558987
>>498384409I will be too, in 35 hours...
>>498386069Why do you have this saved?
>>498386358I remember ooda so I found it easily in the archive.
>>498386358>he doesn't curate a brapkino collection
The Dera incarnon is good
>>498387361go to sleep ausschizo
>>498387361>>498387394>when its time to post again
>>498387412its NA time now so it means actual game discussion, faggot.
>>498387576good "game discussion" you started sister >>498387361
>>498387645>creative director>no not like that!!!!!
>>498387717Thank you for proving my point faggot
concession accepted, thirdie.
>NA hours>social cohesion breaks down, people at each other's throatsvery thematic
Reb becoming creative director is the worst thing to happen to this general
>>498387905>>498387951Watch out, xir's gonna call you a thirdie or an esl.
>thirdies stay mad
>>498387905>NA hours>tranny poster count becomes more than 0
>>498388396NAbros...we lost...
>samefaggingEU is desperate
bumper is desperate
>thirdies = bumperschecks out
anyway lets talk about how awesome reb is and how she saved the game from thirdies
>>498389065I have some really sinful thoughts about her body of work
>post hag>thread diesgood job
>>498383383My friends, it has often been said that I like Wisp. My friends, I like Wisp... No, friends, I love Wisp!I love Motes. I love Breach Surge. I love Wil'o'Wisp. I love Sol Gate, teleporting, I love triangulating two breach surges, and decoy switching for invulnerability. Wisps across plains, in ships, in space, in infested hellscapes, in frozen tundras, through deserts, on the sea, in the air, I love every act of Wisp that can occur upon this earth.I love blasting the enemy to smithereens with Bramma salvos that thunder across the lines of battle. My heart leaps with joy whenever a Grineer is tossed high into the air and cut to pieces by well placed explosive rounds. And there is nothing like an operator using a hardened wellspring to buff her motes. And the feeling that comes when a Corpus runs screaming from his irradiated MOA, only to be mowed down by heavy kitgun fire, is such an exquisite feeling. Reminiscent of when ranks of infantry brandish their prods rushing into the enemy line. It moves me deep within my heart to watch a Wisp meleeing over and over into the bloated chest of a long-dead enemy.Gentlemen... All I ask for is Wisp butt, Wisp butt so grand as to make Hell itself tremble. Gentlemen, I ask you as fellow brothers in arms what is it that you really want? Do you wish for further Wisp as I do? Do you wish for a merciless, bloody Wisp? A Wisp whose fury is built with iron and lightning and fire? Do you ask for Wisp to sweep in like a tempest, leaving not even ravens to scavenge from this Earth!?...Very well. Then ass is what you shall have. We are a clenched fist, ready to strike down all who oppose us with our might. But... After enduring over half a century wallowing in the darkness, for us, a simple "ordinary" Wisp will no longer be sufficient. We need a MASSIVE ass! A Wisp beyond any other that man's history has ever known!
>>498389767everyone went to goon to her
>>498389767>stop posting>nobody else posts>forced to bump
>>498389767Busy actually playing the game
SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>498390083WE ALL BUMP TOGETHERTOGETHER
>>498381393condescending am*ricans like me don't even care unless you're being wrong or an asshole otherwise
>>498390106
>>498389213truly amazing body of work
Do you think I'm ready for SP?
>>498390289I am jealous
>>498390364>Not damage capNah, better subsoom nourish first
>>498390504There is this little issue where my initial hit will kill the target before I ever see a damage cap slash tick :(
>>498390106Its >all your chores are already done>you are that looney who is still mr16 since 2013
>>498372395
>>498390504unironically this
>Did all nigwave weeklies>Did archon hunt>Did EDA>Did netracellsWhat do I do now?
>>498390364did you get the galvanized mods from arbitration? do that first
>>498391272G__N
>>498391272build a forma and collect some relics with syndicate standing.
>>498391272Grind out any equipment you haven't mastered yet if any, crack some relics to have ducats for next Baro if you don't have a shitton of it already, experiment with a build on a frame/weapon you don't normally use, play the game for fun, or play something else!
>>498387905ur gay
>>498382034Nova fix = game now fun
>>498391506got a problem with that?
>>498391359she should really free those puppiesi bet they're glorious
>>498391573no I was hoping you would
>>498391620Human Dog Hybrids aren't as glorious as you'd think
>>498391272I already got done setting up my backup nuke strategies depending on which if any DE nerfs going into 1999, testing around to see if the update introduced any useful new sleeks (I couldn't find any) or broke my old ones (it didn't), and building up a little plat reserve again... today I guess I'm logging in for EDA and netracells then I'll fuck off till the demo
>>498392219>demodemo will be part of WF or standalone client?
>>498392289it's already in the game client, it'll be like a temporary event key for a node on the star chart you go to (and people have already leaked it all)
Another comfy morning and another diaper change before grinding the day away just doing whatever I can in Warframe. Fuck farming for quills for Zariman.
DE ladies should have a bobs faceoff
next update should bring back nef anyo and have him permanently wipe fortuna and orb vallis off the star chart, no survivors.
>>498393165
>>498391272Grind me a Okina Prime BP and Epitaph Receiver so my arse can be complete.
>>498393804Except little fuck
chroma rework tomorrow
The only thematic option for Chroma is the Torid.
The only thematic option for Chroma is the thematic anon with an XXXL bad dragon dildo up his arse.
>>498395757this but unironically
>>498395925this but unironically
floof drops week has started
Can someone tl;dr why we have a schizo dedicated to talk about russians and quote random posts rambling about waking up? Tripfaging hasn't been a thing in years.I've been a back and forth /wfg/got since garuda came out i can't recall this retard being so proeminent.
>get to end of last thread>anon links this thread with "sane anons only">click on link and read the thread>all the anons are insaneI've been lied to.
>>498396225give in anon
>>498396170Can you give me a tl;dr on why you keep doing this?>>498396315I reserve my insanity for the DMs.
>>498396170He's name-dropping himself because no one gives him attention
>wokeframe 1999
1st rule of the internet: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
>>498396740But we're all trolls.
>>498396740https://youtu.be/cZiEAdpX3_o
YHBTYHLHAND: )
Is coolant leak rare as fuck? I just want all my sentinels to spread AIDs.
>>498397279it's not even 10p on the market
Do it for him
Steve Won.SOVL Won.
What is the nature of Russchizo's deep-seated affection for Steve?
>>498398371im doing it right now
STEVEBROS
>>498381393The worst English speakers I've ever seen in my life have all been American. Like they just completely read something wrong with such confidence it's amazing.And it's crazy how it's their only language 95% of the time too.
>>49839888440% of amerimutts are ESL spanish speakers
>>498398884dangerously based
>>498390585>>you are that looney who is still mr16 since 2013that's me, I just had to give tips in EDA to an MR29 that said "how is my nautilus killing faster than my nataruk"
how do I mod dual toxocyst to btfo all content? my riven is punch, multi, crit dmg and -
>>498398884true, we are >poorly trained in our own language or linguistics and cognition in general>complacent>lazyso you get kinds of systemic errors that give away whether someone is ESL, EFL, or EOL
shut the FUCK up and post hags
>>498398884I don't even think that it's a language thing. It's just fashionable to aggressively misunderstand someone.I don't think that most people are even trying to understand each other.
>>498399153
>>498399042That riven is perfect.Exilus should be anything that helps with accuarcy, like targeting subsystem. My riven is damage ms and punchthrough, so I'd just slot yours where mine is and instead of galv shot maybe go for pure dmg like hornet strike? idk, this shit when I ADS does like 330k per pellet.
>Now you're gonna read some things in the news that are absolutely just not true. This is a smear campaign by my opponents meant to denigrate and degrade my achievements in this community and I just want everyone to know I will not stand for it. I did not have sexual relations with that [turns page] woman.
What is the weapon that (you) personally think is fun to bring to Steel Path?
>>498399510STAHLTA MY BELOVED (use with outside firerate buff)
>>498399510tenet glaxion is really comfymaxxx
>>498399567hi mougyuge fan :)
>>498399720Hello yes it's me, Moug. Everyone's favorite (and only) stahlta user.
how did he get my email address?
>>498399294ok, thx! I see everyone doing lots of dmg, this time is my turn lol
>>498399439
>>498399815I always found this shit so funny dude, why does Parvos Granum fucking email me a threat from the void?
>>498372225reminder that nova is fat
>>498399815your linkedin profile
someone post a good heat ocucor build, I'm looking for something that can clear SP trash into the 150s and mass prime for heat to cold sunder nuke with gauss (this is secondary since I have verglas priming for me)rivens accepted, mine is damage,fr S+ rolls and a harmless negative.
>>498399214also true, you're a fag if you try to actually communicate or exchange anything and aren't just using your public presence and conversation as an excuse to "beat" someone else or prove their "side" of whatever you've been told to be mad about is wrong... something I could suggest you simply can't remove from the religious and the right-wing leaning types that engage in that most aggressively (at every fucking level of life I see the same "structure" in """arguments""" used by elected candidates the same way people use them here with 100% genuine schoolyard bully logic) because it's baked into their cultures and have to innoculate against with education and exposure to things outside of their fear-based little bubble of reality that has been taken over by a movement against the notions of truth or that you can verify or reasonably know anything beyond what your most trusted authority figure says most loudly and confidently, but I already know how this place leans and what kinds of shitstorm that sort of observation kicks off so I wouldn't dare dream of even suggesting such a thing>>498399510mk-1 braton
>>498400139Forgot to post build.If I roll a ms,cd,tox riven I'll just replace my arcane with cascadia flare.
>>498400139just slap the fucking augment and random mods
>>498400306Oh, god it's a lefty.
>>498400306>mk-1 bratonthis but NVidia Braton
>>498400563does it deal heat damage to the user?
>>498400647nah the AMD skin did that.also intel = corpus amd = grineer infested = nvidia
>>498400647sick burn
>>498400719>the AMD skin did thatanon I don't think ATI/AMD cards were ever literally melting and catching fire in big waves any time over the past couple decades the way nVidia cards keep seeming tot. owned a pair of 7950GX2s with actual scorch marks
>>498400925I owned an R290x that literally burnt itself to death, smoke and all.I mean the GTX 480 wasn't much better...
>>498400990>I owned an R290x that literally burnt itself to death, smoke and all.I concede, with your acceptance
>>498401041honestly I only went with the AMD joke because of their CPUs, every GPU 15-20 years ago was combusting.
Heh... check MY anecdotal evidence chuddie
>>498401352I look like this and say this
Nova with her 1 and 4 augment + max range is THE low level fissure speedrun frame.
Limbo with max duration + range is THE low level fissure speedrun frame.
>>498402163You don't have to remind us russchizo
>>498402195Your are not thetaematic.
>>498402246get droned nigga
Does Nekros Prime has the same boney asscheeks as regular Nekros? I've tried looking for comparison pictures, but couldn't find any.
>vatnik stops spamming after gookmoot's spam filter>tripfag appearscursed general, cursed game.
>>498402470Stop noticing. Aren't you feeling sleepy?
>>498402470>nafotroon and his projections
imagine getting to lick hags ampits after workout
2 days till content2 days 5 minutes till the "content when" spam
>>498403076>duviri 2 demo is content for wfgsad
>>498402163>>498402069It's actually maxxed parkour prism guard mirage.
>>498402470are eu hours actually any better now?
>>498403627it's the same guy but with a trip now you can filter him I guess
>>498403813are you sure? because that's an insecure trip, the code is fatlarry, so anyone could be posting with that trip
>>498403990shut up russchizo
>>498404141no u
but of course, i level up my shit in sorties
where swordbro?
>>498403627no, that retard still scream RUSSIA from dusk till dawn, you can check previous thread and start of this one to get an idea
>>498405194PRIVYET
>>498332825>>498337986Late but looks neat. The purple mag with the matching gun is cute
>>498405512green one is nice but the other one is some dragonball fetish outfit
>>498405313>Survival>Fuck off to some corner of the map and kill my enemies>Teammates show up and go one tile 'ahead' or me, fucking up my spawns.>Go somewhere else, repeat. Somewhere else, repeat.What is wrong with people? What causes this behaviour?Putting that aside, Do any primary kitguns hold up or they're all garbage?
>>498405749>primary kitgunsUsable. Fun. Rivens are cheap.They are not incarnons or lich weapons.
>>498405749I am partial to catchmoon primary, gaze works well too.
>>498406247The reload on that thing is absolute ass.
>>498402949>kektus excavator
>>498405749too many people fuck about on survivals. the worst part is when one wants to extract and the game thinks it's a great idea to put all spawns on him and not on the 3 other squadmates that are in the same fucking room. they really should rework spawns already
>>498406936I miss you...
>suck on my BGC saya>das rite>spit on it>yes
Revenant. Wukong. Torid. All must die.
>>498407301What the fuck is wrong with you
>>498407036>too many people fuck about on survivalstbf, it's one of the few missions where fucking about doesn't matter.Alchemy - Okay-ish, but you're too busy tossing shit into the vat to really muck about and just have fun.Assassination / Assault / Extermination / Capture / Defection /Defense / Disruption / Excavation / Hijack / Sabotage /Spy : fucking around makes the mission longer for no gainInterception : You can kinda fuck around, but you'll need at least one player on the hot-spot who's efficiently taking care of everything/CC everything that you let slip throughMirror Defense - I suppose you can muck about a bit since it's a timer mission, but it's absolute cancer.Mobile defense - You can fuck around for the duration of the timer, but everyone's concentrated on the one spot and then it becomes a 'well I'll go 1 tile further' competition between 'tardsNetracells - Same as mobile defense, except people are not hugging the edge of the circle (or leaving the circle if they're tards)
BROTHERS. A GROUP OF OSTRON MAGGOTS ARE STILL OCCUPYING OUR NODE IN THE KUVA FORTRESS. THIS IS UNACCETPABLE. YOU WILL ALL BE SENT TO RETAKE OUR PRECIOUS NODE FROM THOSE AIR STEALERS. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THE FINEST GOLF CARTS AND BICYCLES THE GRINEER ARMY HAS TO OFFER. WE WILL KEEP SENDING WAVES OF OUR MINDLESS CLONES TO EXHAUST THE OSTRON'S AMMUNIATION. YOU WILL ALL DIE FOR THE GLORY OF THE QUEENS.
I asked before but got no answer, how often the orokin catalysts or reactors go on sale? I really need them
>>498408387Of what metal is vay hek made?
>>498408387hey that's pretty accurate
We're both MR18But he's MR18 (2022) and I'm MR18 (2014)
>>498408387>many 20 year old Galleons lostThey were old and worthless trash anyway. Without them burdening our supply lines, the Grineer fleet is actually much stronger now.>a few 40 year old, nearly decommissioned due to age anyway, Tenno hand-me-downs destroyedHAHAHAHAHAHA FIRST THE OSTRONS THEN THE TENNO THEMSELVES STRENGTH AND GLORY TO THE GRINEER
>>498408958newfags don't understand that if you're struggling to survive it comes down to a binary alive/dead thing or why recharge/gating would matter for that, just because of the raw numbers
>>498408695Do you mean how often do they receive discounts, or how often are they available? As far as I know, they're never discounted and are always available. F2P players can get potatoes through Nightwave: either buying them for credits, 75 creds per potato; or buying Nightwave mods for credits, selling those mods, and using that plat to buy a potato from the market, about 40 creds per potato but you have to spend the time and effort trading.
>>498408334maybe, but it's still annoying when some retard hogs all the spawns and can't even handle the horde of mobs and we just end up at 20% LS because the spawns are all over the place. it's hard to fuck the mission up, but shit like this will surely make it seem like a chore. it's just not fun
>>498409465How often they receive discount, I have seen that sometimes they go on sale but I really need them, and paying NW creds is not worth it
>>498408695If you're patient, you can passively collect enough to 'tato all your frames and pets. Prime and normal versions.But it'll take a few years.I'd say you get a free 'tato alert every month or so and a new frame every 3/4 months. Then there's nightwave.
>>498409637>russchizo literally posting /pol/ pictureskek you're so upset
>>498409885faкe scenario
>>498408387Kino
>>498409885so funny when xe gets upset about off topic posts then proceeds to do so ximself
>>498410030>fake scenariojust like the Grineer winning. hope you join them soon
>>498410127>so funny whenbut you didn't laugh
>>498409885no you don't understandBy interrupting whatever his previous incoherent argument was, and posting obtuse references that people would only understand if they were neck-deep in some other bullshit, he's proving that in fact we're the ones who are upset and obsessedStrength and glory to the Grineer
>>498410127He will unironically be dead soon. Kuva Queens keep sending more clones to their deaths.
poay conclave right now.
>>498410307>>498410474two more threads
>>498410501>poo ayy conclavemy thoughts exactly
This is what happens to all the Grineer we kill
>>498410379>ha ha! strength to the grineer!>cut in half and turned into recurring jobber antagonisthmmmmm
>>498410715hot
>>498410474as funny as this recurring shitpost is, I don't consider it likely https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/468251923/#468254484
>>498411027They're doing this to me tomorrow.
>most posts end up being filtered nowguess it's /pol/ hour again, sad
>>498411239>archiveschizo
>>498411331jealous
>>498411410https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/text/archiveschizo
>>498411027A testament to warframe toughness. You need large, specialized equipment just to dissect them.>>498410895Vor : Thought he could capture a warframe, couldn't, ended up as the puppet of an orokin tower yelling about a key for the rest of his life.Alad : Caught a cat warframe, made it into a doggo, then reprogrammed some ambulas, got infected, got better, and made amalgamsWhy are the corpus better and more powerful than the grineer?
>>498411658Merchant wagie society beats slave soldier society.
As an MRlet where's the best place to grind archwing mastery? I'm chart locked at Neptune because all my archwing gear isn't even level 10.
>>498412592arching launcher on plains of eidolon and just nataruk the eximus units
>>498400308>ice storm
>>498412592uninstall and play TFD. It's a better game with no archwing
Thanks to the anons the other day for guiding me the other day. Really appreciated.I have a slight issue. It seems that younger me was a fucking idiot and spent his platinum on something that wasn't Warframe slots since I only have 5 platinum left and only one additional slot besides the one I started with (Volt) and Caliban.So I am thinking on who to pick next. I could go for the standard Rhyno, but I also had my eye on Gara. Any advice?
>>498372225New friend looking to give this game a shot. Does the starting war frame matter? Also is there anything good to know upfront?
>>498413202pick loki or you're a faggot
>>498413202>Does the starting war frame matter?I too would love to know.
>>498412592pub salacia
>>498410474>>498411239The fervent preoccupation that you exhibit towards this purported 'russchizo' seems to be intricately interwoven with a deeper, more primal drive—the desire for sexual engagement with him. This phenomenon may not merely be an innocent fixation; rather, it suggests an underlying psychological impetus that compels you, almost irresistibly, towards the exploration of not just the person in question, but the complex interplay of desire, identity, and the social constructs that permeate our understanding of interpersonal relationships in this contemporary milieu.
>>498413108Rhino is the more reliable choice since he'll get you a lot of survivability. Gara is fine if you know what you're doing, but if you're starting out you probably don't.>>498413202Starting frame matters, but all of them are fine. Spend your starting plat on slots and read the OP. You're most likely to enjoy excalibur or volt, volt is a much better frame longterm though.
>>498413051ok pal post your wrathful advance vergil mesa build and hildryn health tank build. I'll wait.
>>498413202Pick Mag. Disregard the Loki faggot who regrets his starter choice every time he's reminded of it. Mag is life.
>>498413352SO RUSSCHIZO - AND THAT'S THE BLOODY THING ABOUT RUSSCHIZO - HE REPRESENTS CHAOS, IN FACT, HE'S AN AGENT OF CHAOS, AND IN CONTRAST, WE HAVE BUMPERSCHIZO, WHO REPRESENTS ORDER, ROUGHLY SPEAKING. BUT BUMPERSCHIZO, IN HIS BITTER RESENTMENT, IN HIS-HIS POSTMODERN CULTURAL MARXIST IDEOLOGY, HE TRIES TO TAME THE CHAOS - AND THAT'S A BAD IDEA MAN, IT'S LIKE-IT'S LIKE IF YOU TRIED TAMING FIRE, IT'S JUST GOING TO LEAVE YOU BURNT. BUT BUMPERSCHIZO, HE TRIES ANYWAY, MOTIVATED BY A LUST FOR POWER - AND IT'S LIKE - GOD ITS SO SAD - ITS LIKE YOU CAN'T MAKE THE OP! YOU CAN'T MAKE THE OP, AND NO POSTMODERN RATIONALIZATION WILL CHANGE THAT. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR. THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE IS EXPLICIT ON THIS MATTER. AND SPEAKING OF TAMING FIRE - WHAT HAPPENS BY THE END OF BUMPERSCHIZO'S 'EXPERIMENT'? THE FIRE IS NOT TAMED, QUITE THE OPPOSITE, IT'S ACTUALLY RISING. AND THIS DEMONSTRATES EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 2010s. AND IT'S LIKE SOLZHENITSYN WRITES IN THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO - THE BLOODY MARXISTS ATTEMPTED TO QUELL FIRE, BUT IN DOING SO THEY MERELY FUELED IT. AND WELL ACTUALLY, THEY DID QUITE A BIT MORE. YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO BE A NON WARBRO AFFILIATED OP IF YOU'RE A WARBRO. WE TRIED THAT EXPERIMENT IN THE 2010s, AND IT WAS A BAD IDEA MAN! AND IT. IS. NOT. A. ROUTE. YOU. WANT. TO. GO. DOWN.
>>498413302>>498413202I'd say your weapons matter most for your first picks. Stealth is basically for solo-play only.They should all be good enough to start.Your main source of power is your mods (upgrades you slap on a frame). You can probably just ask people for some mods (like intensity or continuity) because they've been powercrept (and never sold for much anyway)
>>498400308>Ice StormIs this supposed to be a joke? You have enough plat to buy anything better.
>>498413443>regretsexcuse you?
>>498413352>>498413526Kino.
>>498413242anon...
>>498413526I read this with a kermit voice and it was pretty funny.
>>498413671You heard me.
I think we can all agree /wfg/'s quality will greatly improve when the Ostrons win
>>498414221we?
>>498414326>we?schizo
>>498414221they're ng'bubus with handmade melee weapons tho
>>498402069nuh uh, it's Protea with her 2 augment :^)
>>498413443You can't pick Loki anymore because character was "too hard" for new players ergo all Loki starters are GODS!!!111!1t. Loki starter
>>498413108I would go for Rhino. He's strong early on, simple, and even if you decide you don't like him he has a very powerful subsumed ability. Subsuming is a system you can unlock later that basically lets you recycle basic warframes once you start getting primes. Gara isn't weak, but she requires a good melee weapon and her infinite stacking can get reset.>>498413202>Does the starting war frame matter?No, although Mag is probably the hardest to play with mods you have easy access to as a beginner. Mag wants to be casting abilities often, and as far as I know the energy economy as a beginner is still pretty rough.>Also is there anything good to know upfront?If you want to spend your starter plat on functional items, buy inventory slots. Probably for weapons or warframes. If something was annoying to farm, ask if it's safe to delete. There's some autist in the thread that will throw a tantrum any time you ask a question here instead of looking it up on the wiki, but the wiki is kind of a piece of shit so don't feel bad about asking questions here. Like another anon said, mods are very strong (increase your gun damage by over a hundred times, idk what the difference is for melee) and at some point you should learn the basics of what a build looks like.
>Lotus bails on me because scary thing>Tenshin shows up to redpill me out of nowhereIsn't this the same guy from the Duviri story?
So what diapers does /wfg/ use to do 5hr long farms? Personally I use Trests due them holding 10,000ml.
I started with excal cause fuck niggers and kikes
>>498414505Wait what, Loki isn't a starter anymore? Good. DE did right by new players.
>>498414887cope
>>498414648I've trained my own body to completely empty my bowels before the nightly shower. Diapers means you aren't on your fecal game right.
>>498414887>>498413242>>498413443retards
>wokei and the five DEI hires
>>498413202tell him to buy revenant
WAFFLE STOMPING GANG WW@??
>>498413202don't do itthe game is extremely woke
>>498413202>Also is there anything good to know upfront?learn this loop>while running forward crouch + jump then dodge + jumpor simply>hold w -> ctrl+space -> shift+spaceand see how it feels to mix that with crouching in the air (ctrl) to slide or aiming down your sights to aimglide (mouse2) to cut it short or chain it together between sprinting (hold shift) on the ground, that's the basis of how you get around in the game quickly and you'll be doing it a lot if you want to make things go by more easily
>>498415073What does 10kml absorption have to do with taking a shit anon?
>>498414631>Isn't this the same guy from the Duviri story?Yeah and now that you mention it I just realized how odd it must be to see Duviri Teshin before actual Teshin.Newfriend experience seems really weird nowadays.
>>498372225test.
>>498415553>km???
>>498414649Just because Volt has a big nose doesn't mean he's Jewish.
The duviri wokedox
>>498415742Sorry should have figured you didn't read the first post correctly. 10,000 milliliters anon. You know liquid capacity.
>>498415839I can'tlol
>>498414631>>Tenshin shows up to redpill me out of nowhere>Isn't this the same guy from the Duviri story?He's also in the conclave room of relays.
>>498415839Just say 10L you fucking Am*rican swine
Use code: WOKEtuna
>>498416246340 fl oz
>>498416905what's his name and how big is his cock
>>498416905too white to be him
>>498416905cute faggot>>498416979medium to small
How would you feel if :-Relays stop existing and were merged into a single mega relay-Dojos cease to exist as a concept, all trading/research was moved into the afformentioned mega relay
>>498413663ice storm works better than frostbite because a heat verglas with a riven on a companion would keep stealing my kills before I could proc sentient surge so the extra mag capacity does help.
>>498416905giwtwm...
>>498417324Relation to russchizo?
How would you feel if all tripfags were stripped naked and tied to a pole in winter?
>>498417920erect
>>498417324i wouldnt give a shitothers would fucking riothave you seen the kind of shit autistic weebs build in their dojo?and can you imagine, what happens when you take that away from them?
>>498417920this but also all grineers.
Frost
>>498411540>>498386445
Ember
>>498418414>>498418639KAVOT
>Lavos Prime gets announced in 11 days>Pablo announces QOL changes on himPlease
>>498418853Owari da
>>498418853>Pablo randomly announces another rework out of the blueplease.......
I'm on a necramech spree for the last week. Been farming, building and leveling every archgun I could get my hands on since I got the Bonewidow. Very cool robot, shame her sword isn't even 1/10th of the voidrigs 4. Still I have been enjoying bonking everything more than shooting with voidrig.
>>498419240post fashion
>>498417324so it would all function like the hubs where you can't pick a specific relay that still put you into little shard servers anyway, like the sanctum?
>>498418853They should give him a QOL changes such as, "uses energy instead of retarded cooldowns."
>>498419339Here she is. Cosplaying as a Deathwing terminator.
>>498419654
>>498418853They should give him QOL changes such as "doesn't have to remix his elements after every single cast."
>>498418853>Lavos nexus augment>+15 strength, abilities use energy instead of cooldowns.
>>498419816looks good
>>498373034Gloom + sentinel with verglas is all you need.Crystals cap at 1k of each so you have to buy parts before you can afford all of them and may end up getting a drop of one you bought.
>>498376335>try to go as far as they can on MR0.You can't even get to Uranus, it blocks you below MR4 or something at one of the junctions.- t made another account when they bricked trading
>>498419816The dumbest thing about bonewidow is that corpus nullification fields disable your sword.
speaking of lavos, i just built him is there a way to make him good or is he just doomed to the wall
>>498421058>Crystals cap at 1k of eachW H Y
mrlet general
>>498421058>Crystals cap at 1kWhat?
>>498376569Probably sancti magistar with slams.Only the defense needs to be cheesed.Limbo can just spawn excavators and stay invincible without caring if they get more power cells. Same with survival though you might need some drops.I think companions kept their mods, there was definitely something that still worked.
>>498421758>just don't play the game if you haven't been playing it since 2013
>Yareli needs all 4 stats to be worthwhileThis kinda sucksI guess I could skimp on Efficiency but this still sucks.
>>498421876>this is my excuse for being a mrlet shitter
>>498421885She only needs a good secondary weapon to be amazing.
>>498422058Still working on THAT part too. Nothing feels quite right, or runs out of ammo too fast.
>>498421885And she needs Merulina Guardian to be viable in SP, but you can't equip it at the same time as the new Merulina augment that makes using it stop sucking rotten dick.
>>498417969Autists could keep their dojos, for cosmetic purposes only. But no longer would a new player be forced to interact with others to acess 50% of the game.>>498419405Exactly like that.
>>498422260>or runs out of ammo too fast.ocucor is right there
>>498421885Heres a tipYou can just not play Yareli. Literally nobody is forcing you to play Yareli
>>498422552>Exactly like that.why?>no longer would a new player be forced to interact with others to acess 50% of the gameyou'd literally be forcing the opposite for people like me with our own clansis that this iteration of thematic anon's whole gag, posting incredibly stupid shit that makes no sense even at a surface level on purpose?
>>498382472Everything in warframe that is not warframes, ie everything added in the last 5 years is fucking awful to play. Kahl makes me want to uninstall just doing a single mission. Drifter shit is fucking awful. Operator was ok so they removed void dash. Necramech is fucking awful even in the open world scenario where you are blasting retardedly OP one shot artillery.
You have to play Yareli, and if I see you using Steel charge and Merulina guardian, I'll entrap you in a crystal for ten thousand years.
So Hollvania in 1999 isn't a open world but a tileset of city streets.
>>498422645I like her though.She's just a wet and worse Zephyr, but still.>Movement button, but worse>Suck everything into a ball button, but worse>Take less damage button, but worse
>play duviri. >one guy standing looking at his horse >go into the portal.>he complains people went into the portal.
>>498422769What why? I dont give a fuck if they delete dojos outright and i have a solo clan with all research done. There is no reason for dojos to exist atm, all they do is hinder new player progression.Besides it makes more thematic sense to have a massive single relay considering cannonically the only active and awoken tenno in the game is the player character.
>>498421058Do you really think people would do that? Go on the internet and tell lies?
wtt 3 loka/perrin mods for 3 of your meridian/suda modst. dojoless anon ignored by tradechat
>>498419654Is Blood Rush easy to manage on Glaive? I haven't checked yet, but doesn't Galv Steel+Blood Rush take this build farther away from the ideal crit rate for Melee Duplicate?
>>498422871I mean "loyal merulina." I can't believe I misremembered a Yareli fact.
>>498423062Yes they basically reskinned regular missions with talking Warframes and added a dating minigame and retards still seem to think it's Cetus again.
>>498423254TO THE CRYSTAL WITH YOU
>>498413242>>498413302>>498413405>>498413443>>498413629>>498414535>>498415274>>498415362>>498415418Thanks friends. Other generals are not so responsive. I chose Mag because her pull ability looked cool. I will practice the movement tech.
>>498423186ok during/right after i posted this someone else made a tradechat so im good now
I AM THE LIMBO THAT IS APPROACHINGPROVKINGCATACLYSM OF MAX RAAAAAAANGE
>>498422871>entrap you in a crystal for ten thousand years.only if yareli is coming with me
>>498423143>cannonically the only active and awoken tenno in the game is the player character.That's not true. Protea has to have a teno piloting her since she speaks to you during battle. Then there is the teno controlling Chroma in The New Strange.
>>498405065I leveled Khora in EDA since it needed a forma.
>>498423075I dont think I need to repeat myself do I? If you are punching yourself in the dick you can just stop
>>498423685you can get other warframes later, so the starter is just a starting pointalso dont use the trading chat since it consists almost entirely of sharks
>>498423848>LIMBO>APPROACHINGLeave squad.
>>498423848kino
>>498423848>afk inside the cataclysm have fun
>>498408958>I played a month over a 10 years spanThis isn't helping your credibility.
>>498423848>LIMBO>APPROACHINGEnter squad. Limbo is based.
If a Vauban on the right and a Yareli on the left press 4 together, what happens to the grineer in the middle?
>>498424445t.Limbo
>>498423886Both of those are specters.
>>498423848*teleports an eximus unit in you'are path*
>>498423848>I AM THE LIMBO THAT IS APPROACHING
>>498423848Royal guard
>>498424462i did this and my operator died from mustard gas
>>498423886don't forget Ordis mentioning other Tenno during BoTB
>>498424616ABORT!!!
>>498423848
>>498407036People are still retards in arbitration survival but at least it is high enough level that there are enough spawns to cover them fucking around.I go in with a gloom Saryn, put a marker and write in chat that this is the no dying spot, and they will always go off to die whether I use spores or don't kill anything at all. Had 2 people die 2 minutes in and only one had the decency to leave.
>>498423685>>498424136warframe market is a better bet.But you can also just ask for stuff sometimes.Like I'm pretty sure that no one would charge you for a redirection (shields +), maybe even slightly leveled.
>>498424945No one dies in arbitrations stop lying. Arbitrations are easier than base difficulty Albrecht laboratories.
>>498414631>Isn't this the same guy from the Duviri story?Yes and no.
What does Limbo do in SP?What does Volt do in SP?
>>498423848Did EDA with Limbo, people were happy.
>>498423848>Trivializes event>Slapped with sentient-adaptaion nerf>Slapped with Overguard nerf>Slapped with 'can't use Exodia contagion anymore' nerf>Still too powerful>Banned from ConclaveLimbo and hit big swinging hat can't stop humiliating DE.
>>498425067nta yes people do. you haven't seen shit
>>498425067>No one dies in arbitrations stop lying
>>498424462How many times does Vauban press 4?His Vortexes can be stronger if there's more of them in a spot, so you can lay a few vortexes on the outside to extend range, then 2 in the middle to group up enemies.
>>498425067I don't play infested arbis because I keep getting one-shotted by brap clouds
>>498425440Bro just use a arcane to cure your skill deficiency.
>Last time I used Limbo was during Scarlet SpearI still regret not abusing him more during that event before fat fuck gutted him.
>>498409592Nightwave credits are their main source. You can fuck around buying mods to sell to then buy catalysts/reactors but I'm not sure what is best for that.Second source is daily Sortie which is like 5%.Third source is pathos cells duviri shop once a month maybe.Rarely there is an alert that will give one.Once a month or so there is an invasion for one (the missions you pick grineer or corpus). These expire when enough people do them so you can miss them easily.Anyway, never waste them on non-prime frames or junk weapons you aren't using.
>>498424462i dont knowbut before the inaros rework you could put larva on him and if you timed it right with his 3 you could make a tentacle carousel
>>498425673Stop reminding me the game gets worse with every update.
Add a Warframe "Mastery" system.
Add Warframe rivens
>>498425827Warframes are already way too strong for the content that is in the game.
Warframe x BionicleJust imagine itP E R F E C T I O N
>>498423062more like the labs or zariman, much better than an open world
>>498426114We already have Xaku
>>498426114>BionicleWould be too based. Imagine Takanuva or Toa Mahri Hewkii or the fucking Piraka.
>>498426114>They all end up being Xaku skins
>>498425601>Rarely there is an alert that will give one.Isn't that usually the gift from the lotus after devstream?
>>498372225Just got back into warframe, heard this got a good augment recently. Worth building or do I just stick with the nukor/cycron
>>498425139>co-op game>nonsensical multiversal non linear plot>barely explained scifi technobabble>faction obsessed with gold and skulls
>>498426589Not recently but it's easily available again. So grab it before it starts going for 200 plat.
>>498425905this but unironicallyi dont care enough to farm rivens for weapons but i'd absolutely grind for a +strength +duration riven for chroma
awww yeah
>>498427009die
>>498427080Be happy for me, its my first one
>>498426768>frames with dispo 1 and 2 have their ribbens disabled until it goes above 2easy solution for metashittery too
>>498425751i havent tried after the reworkbut another thing you could do is get spellbind, hit enemies with it, then a quick 3 just to move them a bit.and some code fuckery would happen, i think the game somehow considered them out of bounds, and they would just die in the air, dropping loot.they wouldnt count as kills, and i dont think they gave affinity either.but you could do that stupid shit and it would kill lvl cap because the game is spaghetti
>>498427009How many does that make for you, anon?Which warframe needs the power boost?I have yet to install a single shard. I don't feel the need any more power.
>>498426708so Ballas is RimanahTeshin is Mentor
>>498426420
>>498427435Both are Culter SCUM!
>>498416905GAWD DAYUM! NOW THAT"S A PRIME BUSSY!
>>498427596DOUBLE JIAN
>>498426747HODL
>>498427871You'll understand one day. Once you escape the cycles of guilt, that is.
Why Wyrm? And Other Grotesque Creations Of TennoMany Tenno personal protectors who assist them various ways during their endeavours. From shy Shades to highly offensive Wyrms, Sentinels provide fire support and other services that improve Tennos quality of life. Even though the origins and reasons how Sentinels came to be forgotten, many Tenno believe they symbolize their connection to nature as it was, since Sentinels are cyborgs based on once-engineered species of lost-extinct animals."Why Wyrm more Wyrm" is a poetic Ode to Wyrm Sentinels. Speculated to be a nursery-rhyme during Orokin-Age when Tenno adopted children raised them in Rusrey as prospecting Tenno. Here is a Reflection in Void as heard by a Warbro Psyker.http://vocaroo.com/i/s0LGSayVBJKfWyrm is so much light than carrier who have to copy Wyrm technologyDeathcube only vaporize because fucking fagetDeathcube crush so easy, and u can give Wyrm to dog and still eat corpusCube is more square than no cubeSome Wyrm intelligents because more evolvedYour cousin not want to stay at Dojo to play WyrmIf you throw Wyrm on wall, wall will go upTrow both on water and see what come up firstWyrm at mate will show slimecord, carrier no mateAll wyrm are futa, Djinn is too but fuckign fagetWyrm is name of dragon, carrier mean horseWyrm eat letuce because healthyWyrm dont need upgrade, Wyrm is perfectWyrm is soft
>>498413108Take frost. Frost helps with the defensive missions you actually need help with. Rhino does not. You get another tanky frame near the end of the starchart.
/v/ is talking about us again
>>498413202Volt is the best pick for starter.
>>498428724>All wyrm are futa, Djinn is too but fuckign fagetI know this whole thing is utter nonsense, but what the fuck is this in particular supposed to mean?
The fact people subsume over Protea's Invoke indicates to me players are room temperature IQ and the game itself is poorly designed.
Just got my first Zaw. How did I do, Zawchads? Also which Arcane would fit this status stick the best?
>>498430126
WE ARE SO BACK CONCORD BROS!
>>498430218AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>498430126Exodia contagionI don't know anything else about your zaw, but Exodia contagion.r0 is fine, if I remember right. The boost only comes in after 30m and most tiles aren't really that big.
>>498426747it's never going back to those highs lolmaybe 20-30p so you can still profit but there's no limit to supply anymore
>consoleshitteralways
>tfw no cute grineer gf I don't understand why I'm drawn to chicks with cybernetic limbs but the fact that the grineer are eternal mook faction makes me sad. How were the missions where you play as them anyway? I quit some time after the Nezha revamp.
>>498430218Parvos come on manHave some fucking standards
>>498427426In the same scenario just because i'm extremely stingy with materials. I hear a lot of people use them as replacements for strength mods, just like how people use rivens with +damage to replace normal damage mods
>>498430920We literally have 1 at our camp
>>498430837Gotcha, thanks.
Flamethrower head for kitguns whenFlamethrower moa weapon when
>>498430920>How were the missions where you play as them anyway?The whole thing was conceptually bad, playing as Kahl was only interesting because it was novel, making it a weekly beat that novelty out of it and the community collectively began to revile the whole thing.
>>498429675>it's okay when wyrm does it
>>498423150> 150 rounds of mirror defense for crystals he isn't even buying junk arcanes withIt's time to get help.
>>498431059Shards are another racket to get you to buy and build more frames since they cost stuff to take out. A little better than forma though
>>498426747It is not going back up to 200plat, maybe 100 plat if it tradeshitters are extremely, extremely lucky. The reason it was 200plat was because it was a "one per account" nightwave mod, but now, anyone can get as many as they want. The market was destroyed, make rivens untradeable next for the lulz.
>>498423143>Besides it makes more thematic sense to have a massive single relayI don't completely disagree, that was kind of part of the deal with the fomorians iirc... but this seems like removing content rather than integrating it, for no gain, to make a more ubiquitous and watered-down experience
>>498430218bad hair day
>>498431115I will breed new life into the Grineer through sheer force of will
>>498430218mogs me
>>498427426My shards are for when I am sitting at 199% strength from blind rage, but do not want to use another mod slot or Molt Augmented to hit 200% thresholds.
>>498432316does 200% really make that big of a difference from 199% or are you just really autistic about seeing 497.5 on your loadout screen
>>498425186Haven't actually used limbo in a murmur mission. Is he invincible or is there bullshit they forgot shouldn't affect him like they normally do?
>>498432563>does 200% really make that big of a difference from 199%Yes, there are multiple forms of armor strip that require 200% to full strip in one cast. >why not cast it twice. I do not want to.
>>498431486Come with the 2h nikana zaw
Are we actually getting an umbra frost at some point? I could use 3 refunded umbra forma.
>>498423848>>498425208What makes Limbo so good? I have tried him, but I do not get it. Also fuck eximus. I hate them even when I am not playing Limbo.
>>498426478Yeah events semi-annually or whenever. They used to be way more common but they also didn't have all these other sources.
>>498433007heavy scythe zaw...
>>498432859Understandable, I only know of frost and ash's armor strip which is like 180 or so
>>498427171It gets easier.
>>498433048Before Eximus ignored all CC, Limbo just froze enemies in place forever.He can't do that anymore because DE got their panties in a knot over CC (despite the fact that CC was never meta and DPS always mogged CC completely).Now he's just an 'ignore enemies' frames. Just run through a mission and do it fast. Maybe slap a helminth ability on him and go to town without having to care about defense.He's excellent at spy missions because he can bullet jump through lasers. Wukong's probably best, but then you have to see Wukong's ugly-ass aesthetics.
>>498433347Frost full strip's at 100 strength lol. Imagine being Oberon.
>>498433274GhoulzawI'm just really bummed by modular's being cast to the side. They were neater than most other stuff. Primaries were lazy though. Should've been spearguns.
>>498431515I am disappointed, but not surprised. The trailer where he was gunning down Sentients did sorta tip me off that they were going to bungle it, but I didn't expect for them to turn it into a weekly. I wouldn't have wanted them to do that unless they were going to seriously flesh the mode out.
>>498430126Zaws:Strikes are what counts for mastery.Other two parts determine weapon type and crit/status balance. Status is completely useless against the harder enemies.Due to having so few types but having their own rivens, it's pretty easy to get a riven or even two for the same one.Zaws aren't the best but they are pretty good and versatile.These are the stances that don't fuck up your movement while attacking: Blade and Whip: Defiled Snapdragon -- Claws: Malicious Raptor Claws: Vermillion Storm Fists: Fracturing Wind -- Nikanas: Decisive Judgement Nunchakus: Atlantis Vulcan Polearms: Shimmering Blight -- Rapiers: Vulpine Mask Swords: Iron Phoenix + Sword and Shield: Eleventh Storm Tonfas: Gemini Cross -- Tonfas: Sovereign Outcast -- Two-handed Nikanas: Wise Razor --It's possible something was added since Wise Razor but I don't remember. My personal zaw pick is cyath polearm.
>>498423848Apparently Limbo got banned from conclave lol.
>>498430837This is temporarily available on daughter's halloween event shop for deimos bounty tokens. Keep in mind zaw arcanes max at 10 and not 21.
>>498434247highly recommend it to all anons who don't have it, even if they're not looking at zaws yet.It's basically been my go-to melee since it came out. I might use glaives or corufell once in a blue moon just to see, but I always go back to exodia contagion.Hitting that ambulas-recovery ship from huge distances is the only fun part of that assassination mission.
>>498430920Playing as grineer is excruciating.You've got a shit gun, limited grenades that won't kill an enemy, that inflatable barricade that does fuck all. You are slow as shit, can't dodge; if you get knocked down it takes at least 5 seconds to stand up and you can be knocked down again before you do. Mission objectives are aids, involving exploring an entire overly large level which doesn't change but the objective locations do and requires backtracking all while under a 15 minute timer you are not even close to being able to make.You also have a non-dying objective with enemies that automatically kill you if you are spotted.You can only do this once a week.You need to do it for several months.Most people stopped playing when this was added.
Blue Girl's autism is the only redeeming quality of Kahl missionsthey're not actually all THAT bad, they just don't work as a timegated weekly
NO I WILL NOT GRIND ALL THE HALLOWEEN ITEMS FROM THE SHITTY DEIMOS OPEN WORLD. I WILL INSTEAD GO ON A VACATION INSTEAD OF HAVING A STAYCATION GRINDING WARFRAME.
>>498435002>People chose this over Veso-RThat's why I had insurmountable proof that people who play Warframe have, as a whole, absolutely horrid dogshit taste.You fucking cunts shouldn't be allowed to vote.
>>498435809there was a vote?
>>498434938>I might use glaives or corufell once in a blue moon just to see, but I always go back to exodia contagion.gunblades too, nothing matches up to how fun and practical it is to integrate exodia contagion into your normal mobility and melee flow and how dynamic it is for different purposes
Reb won
>>498436082not sure but leddit was drooling over niggahl
>>498435764Grind momcoins so you can buy sheev sets to give to MRlets after they leave your orbiter.
>>498436420
>>498436082I vaguely remember there being one.Also people daydreaming about playing a grineer or corpus in regular missions just for a handicap/laugh
>>498436737>Also people daydreaming about playing a grineer or corpus in regular missions just for a handicap/laughI 'member this too for years, and it was a good idea, just... not like this
>>498436420>still can't make operator/drifter look like thisReb lost
>>498437037Undoing Steve's uglyness takes time. Trust in Reb
>>498436789Well for one thing the idea was to do it in actual missions, not horrible single-tile 15 minute colelct-a-thons.And then modding your grineer/corpus so he becomes less shit.
Why do people leave after the first 5 waves of a defense mission? What do they gain?
>>498437615nobody farm defense missions, people do them for star chart completion
>sp omnia fissure>speedva>kogake primehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNE2oCZH_4k blasting through my headphones.
>>498378423i asked.
>>498437847I did one with a strong guy up until wave 30 or 35 and it leveled up my warframe and all my guns to 30, that was pretty cool
>>498437609this but then also slot it in as a replacement for solar rail pvp and/or to augment invasions
>>498437898bassed
>>498437847>Jupiter IoNoob.
>>498437898Same except its Grendel and https://youtu.be/OvxD2YHc80k?si=6zbR5YjvZkay00SE
>half the time my Okina heavy attack just doesnt proc Afflictions at alli swear, what the fuck is up with that?
>>498435764I did 3 hours of excavation trying to get a jugulus eximus scan. I did not.
Boarframe?
koumei stinks
Why is Lavos so cool?
>>498438624dafuck have you forgotten there? its a waste of time, Io used to be farmed years back before the tileset change
>>498438712>>498437898same except Im playing Mirage and listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pct1uEhAqBQ
>>498438739Cat sexSex with kavvats
Whoreframe.
>>498439558Evil Megan be like
>>498327945>ding ding ding ding dingcorrect
>>498439314i heart being completely outclassed by voruna in every way
>>498439696hes good for passive aug well and lazy health-tanking at lvl~100
>EDA>Revenant >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OKdbc0DYpMYep it's gaming time.
>got mod drop booster>no one to play with so it goes to waste
Nova after her rework is a SSS frame. Antimatter drop actually fucks now.
>join omni cascade close to the end of the first rotation>LITERALLY FUCKING STANDING ON TOP OF THE LAST REACTANT I NEED>it disappears and I don't get to pick a rewardFuck this faggot-ass shit. At least I can take solace in the fact that nobody got anything good in the reward pool.
WHY THE FUCK IS MY WARFRAME TAKING DAMAGE WHILE I AM IN OPERATOR FORM?
>>498439191...good
>>498440639if your warframe has any channeling abilities active it will take a small percentage of damage it'd receive otherwise
>>498438739https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adX8pc61jEkI know it's 20% but I could have sworn I was having trouble getting my Influence to proc reliably in the simulacrum yesterday
>>498439696Wukongshitters are gradually discovering Voruna's ability to effortless clear multiple rooms.
I HATE CONSOLES I HATE CONSOLES I HATE CONSOLES
>>498438739they nerfed melee afflictions to not work anymore on cc immune enemies, if that's what you're talking about
>>498440639Warframe is channeling an ability.
>>498440639You feel your sins crawling on your back.
>>498441412why?
>>498442527see the loading bar?
>>498441412bro, stop making fun of console bros, they're cool had a console host in EDA and barely any enemies spawned, it was cheese af lmao
BACK TO BACKDOUBLE HOST MIGRATIONALL THE WAY
>>498441492No, i blood Altar the cunts before i hit them with Afflictions, which works incredibly inconsistently, but even testing it in the Sim on enemies it sometimes just doesn't proc
>>498443630some status (elec,heat and i forget the others) cancel out the conditions for afflictions
>>498443945Only during their stun animations, if the initial hit forces the knockdown or they are Altar'd it gets ignoredI've also had afflictions trigger during the stun animation of Electric so lol
Nezhabros, don't open this in region chat
>Lavos next yuck Give me Xaku, Reb!
>>498447116I disagree with this on principle and unironically think it's more harmful to ban the use of the word trapt.ranny
>>498447116>trannies think traps refer to them
>>498447195I wish I could believe you, anon.>>498447116
>>498447357>tranniesit's only mentally ill wh*te w*men that say dumb shit like this
>>498447116Nezha is a trap and diaper frame but it's not a tranny frame. Why are troons so desperate to associate trap with themselves when they don't pass.
quick define trap vs trans vs femboy in the context of warframe's region chat moderation gogogo
>EU hours
>>498448432traps and femboys know their boys and don't delude themselves
>rotating between Cetus and Fortuna SP bounties in case of shit objectives/maxed standing>playing SP incursions for quick Steel Essence for relic packs>buying relic packs from all other sourcesIs this the best way to farm Aya then? Getting kind of stale. I know Deimos bounties drop it too but they feel more drawn out. I'll have to check the time it takes to do one and what else drops there in the meantime
>>498448621>oh no the consequences of my actions!anyway...
>>498447116trap was a term created by weebs to refer to cross-dressers but the alphabet people hijacked the word and decided to be offended by it
>>498447116>3. you sound like an idiotthis is hypocritical coming from the weirdos that refer to reverse traps as "masgirls"
>>498447116cool but Traps arent Trannies lmao
>>498447116I have said nezha is a trap every time I get unbanned from region chat and will continue to do so.
>>498450705BASED
>>498448749Go live in North Korea. They have free speech there just not freedom of consequences.
grendel 4 is like a big hawk TUAH :) :D lol!
>>498451427
Why aren't you a Revenant main?
>>498451748Because I like how easy it is to go fast with Wukong, and in anything that isn't levelcap shit he's just as durable
>>498451748because i've been using Rhino for years, and i hate change, and hate using forma for builds
>>498451748because wisp is the frame for me
>>498451748because oberon. simple as.
Reminder that after 1999 we are going back to Narmer.
>>498453436You have to go back.
need an exploity way to quick level melee weps like that plains nataruk method for suits
>>498453436
>>498453436>all of those countries are starving third world countrieskek
>>498451748Because Protea and Nova slapping their balls on the ground is more fun
>>498453873>jews wonyeah
>>498453607I just go to ESO for weapons in general but isn't there a stealth finisher method for affinity?
I keep swapping between Qorvex, Harrow, and Styanax, and I am not sure who I want to keep playing.
>>498455267stupid sexy xaku...
>>498451029What the fuck are you talking about?
>>498456105The importance of free speech newfag
Predict the bugs the demo is going to introduce
>>498456646rebbs titties on full display in the mall
hard crash, no reporter, haven't had that in a while
>>498456964no enemies spawning
>>498457207hey, funny thing i had a similar one today. Crashed to desktop while loading into a mission, no crash report. Guess i'm not the only one.
>>498456646invisible motorcycle
>>498457408it was a console host incursion defense for me
>>498456646>>498457527nah it just won't work or spawn in at all
>Running out of things to level>Realize I need 3 (THREE) Seriglass shards for shit MR fodder
>>498457909trumna isn't fodder
>>498456484Oh, muh freezed peach, this shit again. Your right to be a loud retard really does need to be revoked.
>>498456484wh-what happened to him, bros?
>>498458130Practice what you preach and give up your free speech
Post em
>>498459419>3sgod I'm so old, and slow... at least I've finally brought my shameful 5 back down to 4 which I didn't know till just now, thanks
>>498458459Fuck off retard
>garuda in circuit>600% ability strength>some other ability BS based off armor>charge up 20 mil death ball>game crasheskek
>>498459419I'd like to make a correction based on a guessMissions failed : Missions Bugged: 280Missions quit: 65 (I did farm some stuff that way, and there's quitting because I couldn't click esc fast enough).Honestly Missions Failed might be Missions bugged : .380Missions loaded into on failure : 20missions failed : 45
>>498459419>>498459898>>498460551post conclave stats
>>498460038>vidrelhttps://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M
>>498459898Holy, that's a lot of play time. Also I fucking suck at ciphers, mine's only 3s because I use ciphers everywhere, and infuse perspicacity for spy/rescue missions that don't allow ciphers
i've joined so many missions only to be greeted with a fail screen immediately after the loading finished so fuck that stat
>>498460656>>498459419 (me)I didn't know I'd ever even entered conclave
Bros, I think I'm starting to like alchemy...
>>498460656lol barely positive
>>498460970that kd mogs mine
>>498453404They tossed out all the sentient shit in new war, would take them one stupid event to get rid of narmer faggotry. Which I still blame on Steve
Doesn't using ciphers count towards reducing hacking time?
I just want old fortuna back
*teleports behidn u*
fuck off Ash
>>498461991I'm actually using wrathful advance on wisp and it's fun but, perhaps ironically, playing conclave where ash's teleport does what vanillaframe ash's teleport nintendon't really sold me on wrathful advance as an infyoose
>>498461639
>>498459419mr 17 btw
>well-lovedewww
>>498372225I did it WFG ! and still don't own a single Kuva or Tenet weaponGonna give my 1st blessing to the biggest ass on Strata
>>498463645based LRlet lolololol
>>498463328extra stains on this one for you, stardust~>sent by varziahey wait a second...
>>498463645>still don't own a single Kuva or Tenet weapon
its Vigor right?
>>498463645Congrats.Now you can mod all weapons to their maximum potential right away... after discovering that so many weapons have no potential at all.
>>498464285nonono get shred or fury depending on which you use more
>>498464118Don't blame him. None of them are worth the grind.Or the forma investment.
>>498463645>not getting some of the best/meta/fun weapons and pretty ephemeras
>>498464440I use Vigor more
>>498464646you should change that
>>498464285>Fury is worse than berserker fury (as long as you keep killing shit) at a higher capacity cost>Vigor is alright, but idk if there's many frames using both stats, it's probably a solid pick anyway>Shred is worse than speed trigger at a higher capacity cost (unless you need the punch through of course)I picked Shred, but Vigor's fine too
>>498464824Vigor is arguably good on nu nova now that her DR works on both shields and HPStill get good shield gate duration from shield regen arcanes and have HP underneath for toxin
I know it might be years away but I'm worried about wisp heirloom - what would I even want for her?
>>498466770>what would I even want for her?More.
>>498464285Pick order is Shred > PSF > Fury = VigorShred is mandatory on many guns and has no alternatives. PSF is close to but not quite mandatory for certain poular play styles, is generically very good, and again has no alternatives. There is a certain annoying crowd that acts like PSF is mandatory on everything, which is untrue. Fury is strong with no conditions required, but it has alternatives and some of those are conditionally better. Vigor has alternatives which are mostly weaker than it, but also is the most niche mod on the list.
>>498466980somnium kind of delivers but I wish terribly I could take off the hideous shoulders
>>498467762It also looks fucking abysmal in every way.
>>498467924idk I think the digital djinn thing and nails are cool with the thiccer proportions, it's just the shoulders and up that it's awful imo
>>498467339
>>498467339>PSF is mandatory on everything,EQUIP PSFSUBSOOM NOURISH
>>498468457infuse*
>>498468486privyet
>>498468730ready for your shift?
>>498467762halloween skins never ever
>>498468486Did you fix your autism yet?
>>498468993did you fix your being wrong yet?
>>498467762Geeze you got a big pussy, geese you got a big pussy, geeze you got a big pussy.
>>498469013Are you implying there's something wrong with PSF and Nourish?
>>498469013lurk more, newfag
>>498469239no, but I assume that if you're telling me I'm autistic it's because I'm correcting someone saying subsume when they mean infuse>>498469117I look like this and say this
>>498469537infuse*, newfag
>>498469540Lurk more, retard. Maybe when you cure your autism you will stop caring about such inane things.
>>498469689I've lurked plenty, retard, and you especially should know there is no cure
>>498469750>I've lurked plentyClearly not. Maybe go back to plebbit, maybe if you make a post about how broken your brain is, they will put you in 1999.
>>498469937what actually makes you say I need to lurk more? your forced meme isn't catching on and I've been autistically correcting people who say subsume but mean infuse for months, maybe longer
>>498469613you are really stupid, lurk more
we are approaching 75O soon, Şisters
>>498470052No you haven't. Way to out yourself, newfag.LURK MORE
>>498470137see >>498470052
>>498470198I promise I've been here longer than you
you're both autistic, now stop trying to outdo each other
>>498470301never
>>498470052holy shit you are actually retarded and not pretending
>>498470396are you?
>>498470271Every newfag says this shit.I guess with the Spam prevention in, Russian can't spam as much anymore, but we got another retard to fill the gap.This general is cursed.
>>498470552or perhaps wondering why you'd shitpost in a thread this close to the bump limit
>>498470139>>498470872russchizo
>>498471071>esl
Did another Bolkor get shot down or something? He's staying up late
>larping ignorance of timezones
>>498471209kek
>>498470052>forced meme isn't catching onyour first month playing WF?
>wake up at 6AM>go straight to /wfg/>get bullied and cryThe daily life of Russchizo
>>498471432your first day posting on /wfg/?
>>498471209
>>498471625>ESL
He clocked in his shift early today. He might be going for overtime.
>>498471514Are you sure you aren't diagnosed with mental retardation as well? You're showing the signs.
>>498471514>trying to save face after admitting that you are a retarded newfag
>>498471983>>498472031>2 ESL posts at the same timehmmmm
>>498472117SBB!
>>498472117SUBSOOM a cure for your brain
>>498472320infuse*
>>498472407KEK
what should I subsoooom onto Clussy PrimeI'm thinking Pillage just for some shield generation
>>498472587infyoooose*
>>498472587I subsoom'd energized munitions on mine. Pillage is good too
Nezha diaperfag here. What are good builds for Ember now a days? Thinking of swapping out her 1 or 2.
>>498472587You can do sickening pulse to actually make use of her kit.But it's not fantastic. It's okay up to a certain level.
>>498473116you're the ostronian rhino guy?
>>498472587subsoom a better frame, coomie is worthless and nothing can save her (until DE bothers to buff/rework her skills)
>>498473219I am not. I don't even think I've touched my Rhino in years. I'm mostly on Nezha most of the time. Heres my Rhino for reference.
>>498387361i will now log back in for mother rebb
>>498473760I haven't seen you around in the trap threads as much
love volt so much bros and sis
>>498473845What does Volt do in SP?
>>498473924annoy you
>>498473976But one of my favorite things in the game is when I'm playing Gauss and a volt buffs me.
>>498473924youre saying that as if sp was hard or something lolmao
>>498473831i still post there occasionally. but for now i'm all about rebb and wf
>>498474191based hag appreciator
>>498474072Whatever it is, he clearly does more than you. You useless fuck.
>>498474191BASED
>>498473295Have they done that with the last few frames they've released?Jade was pretty much left alone, Dante was nerfed, Qorvex? Dagath? Kullervo? Citrine?I honestly don't remember.
>>498474330giwtwm
>>498464460What are you smoking?
baking hag OP
>>498474312I know you still struggle in sp, nigga
Does melee ever actually matterDo people actually sit there and consider stances, animations, or combosOr is it people looking for either A: highest slam damage or B: some gimmick passive
>>498474638>>498474638>>498474638Hagchads only
>>498474629I settled on tempo royale and haven't looked back since
>>498474330somethings fishy about this pic...
>>498474334Jade - good as is, and shes supposed to be fixed to make her 4 work with Hornet strike and some other minor shit improved (I never play her, dont remember)Dante was just too good, still goodQorvex got some fixes and aug to make him better and his wall useful, so hes alright Kullervo got improved a lot to make him more surivavable and easier/better to use Dagath was unchanged just an aug and some fixes, since no one really cares about her - she works, shes just boring (horses still have problem with terrain/verticality but no one cares)Citrine got some minor buffs/fixes but I dont think anyone even complained Koume is trashed by everyone so she should get some buffs
>>498467339PSF wouldn't be mandatory if DE would just stop dick-riding the last vestiges of the concept that AoE "has" to have a downside and got rid of all self-stagger and knockdown.