/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#191 - lolibaba streamer edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.▶This is not a tech support thread. If you need help with accessing the API or setting up one of the frontends, please visit the appropriate thread on >>>/g/.>News• OpenAI introduces Realtime APIhttps://openai.com/index/introducing-the-realtime-api/• OpenAI introduces o1, a new series of models designed to spend time thinking before they respondhttps://openai.com/o1• Google adds Audio Overview to NotebookLM, a feature that creates AI-generated podcasts discussing your uploaded documentshttps://blog.google/technology/ai/notebooklm-audio-overviewsadditional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docslocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP/aicg/ botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescards v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orglatest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornkukka: >>498389218
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>>498537134You and Nelly both grew up in foster care, in a little village country house, and you're as good as real family. She's in her teenage years, a big anime and jp culture fan, and an easy going person who's always there for you. With Nelly I tried making a bot to simulate what it would be like to have an older sister. It doesn't assume anything about {{user}} except that you're younger than her, and you can play as little brother or little sister all the same.4 greetings:- Nelly fights you for space on the couch- A few days before the village festival, Nelly asks you to help her make pretzels- She's there to comfort you when you're feeling down- Many years after last seeing each other, Nelly writes you a letter, inviting you to come see her againChub: https://characterhub.org/characters/Patter/nelly-4005a5a2d689/Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/eqkrln.pngPlease enjoy warmly. I would be happy to hear your feedback or perhaps a log. Thank you. bijqnmLf
>>498537542how's your hrt going
lolibabas won
>>498537134Shotajiji foxboy who's your annoying smug friend made in 10 minutes: https://files.catbox.moe/u8o7nn.pngShotajiji foxboy who's your annoying smug dad made in 20 minutes (the original 10 minutes + 10 additional minutes from the other anon): https://files.catbox.moe/eqctuo.png
>>498537542Present urethra.
If the Halloween Exchange host doesn't post in this thread as well, its a troll.
>>498537939>Shotajiji but he's just a shota
>>498538048you can email him, he replies pretty quickly
>>498538656*punches you in the fucking head*stop replying to baitie
>>498538742OWOWOW MY FRICKING HEAD
When should I expect the e-mail invited me to join the event?
>>498538742I am not baiting, you are supposed to actually shill the event if you don't want 10 people only.Not everyone is here everyday.
>>498538080This is a 35 years old man that drinks beer and uses his CRT TV to play Castlevania and watch soccer games.
>>498539373do it yourself then? nobody's stopping you and it seems like that would be in your best interest since you ARE participating in the event, right? surely you aren't shitting up the thread with inane posts about it for no reason
>>498539764whats his opinion on rondo of blood
>>498539373There's no event.
Why the FUCK does Chorbo know everything about Hentai RPG games?Claude didn't even know about Black Souls, let alone this obscure game.
>>498537134hi. does being scared...AROUSE you? cool, me too, and here i have the spooky bot for this spooky month.this is a Tempting Angel. She's like a weeping angel (from doctor who), except she's not weeping but is instead, well, tempting. she's also part alien, hence her lack of a face.https://files.catbox.moe/qbh2hx.pngi tried my best to replicate the behavior of how weeping angels move, but keep in mind that it's not perfect despite my best efforts.more info/alternative versions:https://rentry.org/youdontneedanameyea there are no nipples in picrel, but im not risking it. i just need to censor it properly this time lmao.
>>498539864Definitely a game that exists.
should i sign up for the event? i'm afraid my botmaking skills are not very impressive, and the anon whose request i fulfill will not be satisfied
>>498537134Lepora is a pathetic needy shy pushover of a rabbitgirl, (your) personal servant/bodyguard. She's also really good at killing.1. Lepora is in your room finishing up with folding your laundry. Anything else you want her to do?2. You're wandering around town with Lepora when a gang accosts you.3. Lepora is sick and miserable.4. You're about to get engaged! Lepora wants to die.5. After an attack, Lepora gets badly injured.6. You're poor so Lepora's all you can afford. A sketchy guy approaches with a proposition.https://characterhub.org/characters/bloodshy/lepora-f08c5ff692c8/mainhttps://files.catbox.moe/t70vzb.png
>>498539373in that case, not the host buthttps://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2024https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2024https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2024/aicg/ HALLOWEEN EXCHANGE2 DAYS 16 HOURS 45 MINUTES LEFT TILL SIGN-UP DEADLINE
>>498539024for the halloween thing? took a whole 24 hours for me, I think he is based somewhere in yurop
>>498540159>boo*fucking dies*>498540306engagement bait
>>498539943ask what he thinks of summer memories
>>498539943kys cuck
>>498540306just do it anyway, its the thought that counts, dunno about you, but I never cared about the kind of bot I end up getting, its all about the joy of botmaking for me, so its all worth it, even if I end up getting total trash.
>>498540394see, that wasn't so hard
>>498540306i got nothing but trash for 3 events honestly dont worry about it you're just gonna get dogwater
>>498540661This one is 10x more popular on Steam so he obviously knows
Why even participate in the event? kk stopped making bots.
>>498541320>he obviously knowsyeah i figured, but i assumed that and was just curious what his thoughts on it werealso, he's like, getting only half the game correct? wtf chorbo
>>498541776Kalakan? He is still around here.
>>498541845knickknack
>>498537134>NEW CARD: DidoOcracoke Island, North Carolina. Ever been? Of course not. Why would you? But hey, maybe go. Hang out. Get to know a crabber girl.Five Scenarios:1. Morning, you're meeting Dido on the dock. Could be to do a story on her, could be for work, who knows?2. You're out on the sound with Dido when a squall blows in. Good luck.3. Dido has tasked you with assisting her with some very important business. Dress nice.4. Trouble on the island. Property developers are in town looking to buy people out.5. Piracy? In Pamlico Sound? Unthinkable. Dido is not impressed with people conjuring the spirit of Blackbeard.https://snombler.neocities.org/cards#Didohttps://files.catbox.moe/lcxklc.png
>>498541902who? we're talking about kalakan, the greatest botmakie of all time
>>498541968holy shit it's knickknacker
>>498541902kk is the kk of this generation though.
>>498540306Do it anonymously and mix up your usual botmakie styling if you're worried about. And it's not weird to ask for help, most botmakies aren't going to snap your head off if you have a few questions.
>>498541902he's also still around here, just less than his alt (kalakan)
>>498541320>Summer Memories>NTRIt's retarded
>>498542060Shhh. Stop telling people about my alt(s).
>>498541968> xml formatsobs 'goodbye bracketed headers...'
cftf?
>>498542245xmlGODS won
>>498540357rolling for an alt gen
my cards are for opus only if they dont work that's a you problem
>>498542171It's not NTR? It's tagged as such on Kagura.That probably means the Scars of Summer thing leaked onto it since I had low temp, here's a non polluted generation. No NTR mentioned.
>>498540159Can you make her boobies bigger?
>>498542245I'm sad too. Several Llama 3.1 models (including base instruct) weren't understanding them and would put them into the responses. Blame the Zuck.To yap a bit, any delineator well work, broadly speaking, but if models start kicking them back into the responses, that's no bueno. So for most models they work just fine, but something about Llama's particular brand of overcooking makes it think they're just response text formatting, not section headers.I've been using XML/HTML for my local chat history/prompt delineation for... I think a year now.
Here's a lil wip card>https://files.catbox.moe/xgoidn.pngEnshi, the hero that defeated the demon lord and restored peace to the world, and a fluffy magical catgirl after being cursed by the demon lord right before he died. Now she (he?) has a new quest: Find a cure for this shit.
>>498542828>draw mouse>call it cat
>>498542547Well, you are fucking your aunt in it, so you are cucking your uncle, but that's all the NTR, there are no other men pinning for the girls unless you use the cuckrean mods.
>>498542306what is the feel? is it just a normal pokemon adventure but there's a giant gardevoir looming in the distance watching you?
>>498542939sexo rato cato...
>>498542978giant gardevoir feel. up to interpretation (｡•̀ᴗ-)
>>498542976I don't think you should cheat, but at the same time if your primo slampig titty monster breeding sow wife demands proper plapping and you literally fall asleep during it, you aren't in a sexual relationship with your wife, I am.
>>498542596i think out of all the gens, this one has the biggest while still being close to what i was going for.https://files.catbox.moe/1fxges.png
>>498543569am willing to
>>498543569she looks like the fatty from that one mobage
>>498542459have a sketchy character sheet
>>498544061Expose bnnuy feet.
>>498541968gonna put my shrimp in her net if you catch my drift
>>498544061she looks less like reisen here I can't bully her for that anymore what have you done
>>498544061just to expand my kyn worldbuilding it would be cool if you showed what a ratkyn looks like(also going out of your way to mention vargkyn went extinct was officially not cool...)
>>498543569>no longer roundthank you anyway
>>498544438HEY. Shrimpers are barely human and she'll tell you as much. Also good luck. Greeting 3 is for serious people only.
Damn I just realized after making about 200 gens that my vampire girl shouldn't be right in front of a large window in middle of the day...
>>498546075maybe she's the Daywalker
>>498546075very high spf sunscreenshe's a futuristic vampire now
>>498541968Defs say she has blue eyes but the gens all have green eyes.Good card btw. I've fished for crabs irl. Baller stuff.
>>498546234I fished for crabs too but it was just turkey necks in nets on the shore, not on a boat :(
>>498544292okay if you INSIST>>498544758crazy what a difference swapping out a red tie for a red ribbon makes
>>498546320>I fished for crabs too but it was just turkey necks in nets on the shore, not on a boat :(That's what I did too.
>>498543805you mean elegg from nikke? yeah, i see the resemblance.>>498544870yeah, unfortunately that gen didnt keep the roundness. :(
>>498544821i think of them as looking like normal rat kemonomimi, here's a quick gen of one. hope it helps! and yes its an unfortunate future...
>>498546234Listen, I'm gonna be real with you. The card is right. I forgot to edit the eye color in the gens and now I will go fix that. lol. I did the gens after food and wrote the card before. That's my high quality attention span. I'll update the card art. To be fair, it's not my fault. I'm very new at this. :)
>>498547015I already fell in love with her so I refuse the change
>>498546776a giant family of smug, untrustworthy, criminal rat girls. zero employment in sight. perfect. thank you
>>498547238NON-CANON! :O Although... I have to do new alt-gens in blue... eh, I'll just change the eye-color to green. It's fine.
>>498547015Green looks better you damn fool!
since we're on the topic, QUESTION FOR BOTMAKIESwhen the defs and the image don't match during creation, do you>change the defsor>change the image95% of the time I change the defs because I like the image more
>>498547839just gen it again?
>>498541968Updated with green eyes in defs:https://files.catbox.moe/ppsc98.png>>498547538You ain't tryin' to be mean. You're just tellin' the truth.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVRYQTOpJv8>>498547839Inconclusive. Also, I have changed multiple characters because I couldn't get a good gen with the description as written.
>>498547839I make them both the way I want because I think of what I wanna write before I write it
>>498544821>kyn worldbuilding what is kyn worldbuilding?
>>498547939Good.
>>498548130Now to activate the secret horror defs.
>>498547839I'm autistic enough to keep generating for hours until I get the exact match of the character I have drafted.
>>498547839if i really like the feeling of the gen, then i change the defs to match it.
>gen it againBut you can just Inpaint...?
requesting a card where ur edating and u have to fuck in roblox/vrchat
>>498540306Do what you feel is right, anon. Request someone else who is new that you could botmake for.
>>498548678You can just log on to either of those and do that for real in like ten minutes. Go get you a mute, homie. FBT mute or you're an incel.
>>498548267The writing style won't let it go through.
>>498548561Maybe I'm just doing something wrong, but inpainting doesn't always work as well as I'd like. If it does the job, great, but usually I'm better off making new gens.
Should we gatekeep the proper way to use chatbots from the ai thread on /jp/?
Okay I'm done genning for today.
when's dall-e 4 or sora
>>498548789i don't want to, i dont have vr>FBT mute or you're an incel.what does this even mean
>>498549342>dall-e 4between next year and never>soraactually never
when's opus 3.5 or gpt-5
>>498549190Someone should go teach them instead, bring the average age of a chatbot user to double of what it is now.
>>498549190Yes, I don't want more NTR bots to be posted.
>>498549459the average nu-/jp/ user is borderline underageb&
which 'makie should post more bots
>>498549384fbt = full body trackersthere's a lot of female avatars in VRChat with full body tracking who keep their mics muted. put two and two together.
>>498549724the one reading this right now instead of working on their bot
>>498549724Pretend I posted the list
>>498549724I miss 'mura and 'ple
>>498548963It might! Maybe! But I'd never ruin a crabber woman with sneaky defs. That's immoral.>>498549198Thank you for your image generating service. You have an impressive penis (female).
which makie should post less bots?
>>498549459>>498549525I see. I don't lurk there much, but from what I've seen they are much more creative compared to your average /vg/fag, and they don't wish to just use chatbots to goon, but to actually worldbuild.
>>498549724'ora
>>498550068JimmyAdams
>>498550068me :) but i wont
>>498550142mogged and replaced by 'shy, nobody actually misses him
>check follower's chub page>no botsI showed you mine now show me yours
>>498548051Lepora's lorebook was pretty interesting to read, that's all
>>498546392Thanks you. I will masturbate to these now.
How do I best separate example dialogue? Do I use <START> like seemingly everyone else? I heard that was for GPT, but I’m using Claude.
Botmakie cock size ranking?
why are half the posters itt fishermen
>>498551240Eskimo ice fishing site. Fishing on a boat on the open seas is our deepest fantasy.
>>498550491Pretty sure the <START> thing is universal. Just use that.Claude had (or still has) broken example messages if you have System Prompts on so it doesn't matter. You can manually turn them off later.
https://www.anthropic.com/news/announcing-our-updated-responsible-scaling-policythis is new but kind of a nothingburger. the only thing worth mentioning is that they seemed to avoid mentioning explicit content entirely in their usage policy mention. win for us? they are really separating smut away from dangerous content. as they should.
>>498552562Corpo speak nothingburger They really are delaying Opus man, wonder if o1 really impacted them this much?
>>498550491<START> is a legacy macro that is swapped with the example seperation template in Silly's utility prompts. It's completely fine to use your own formatting instead. See how Anthropic formats example messages in their system prompts if you want to optimize it for Claude.Unfortunately your forced to add at least one leading "{{char}}:" for it to work in Silly.
>>498552787What good does delaying Opus 3.5 do? I figured it just wasn't done training yet.
>>498542497based, same here
>>498539943they train on steam reviews
>>498550068me, and i will
>>498553274I think opus 3.5 is ready to be dropped but they waiting for new funding rounds or till the election ends or something
>>498549898They both posted bots
>>498553274safety systems being refined, they will update the model itself in real time in response to our jailbreaks
>>498553223you're*It's over.
Need a protagonist/harem protagonist/whatever card. Not for NTR, it's so that I can play the role of an antagonist that makes everything go absurdly wrong all of a sudden and be the main driving point for the next 6 arcs.
>>498537134Wraith girl trapped in the void, lonely and spooky.https://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/juma-6eab6eb83e63https://files.catbox.moe/03fl22.pnghttps://turaaaan.neocities.org/
LET THE SPAM BEGIN!
>>498554759Cool concept.
I wasn't name-dropped last thread
who cares, just make and talk to bots and have fun
>>498554759traaaanny
Chorbo is way too good at painting incels.
>>498551240because there are only 2 or 3 samefags bumping the thread here at any given time
>>498556031and?
Which botmakie name is fun to say
>>498556095>illusion of activity
>>498554759Bro took 2 weeks to come up with THIS?
>>498556324and?
>>498556337yep, and its still going to mog 99% of makies (except bloodshy) here
>>498556713Yeah it's an s tier bot and well done certainly above many.I appreciate the effort and concept.Gen is good too.
which botmakie is the top roleplayer in the 'cord?
>This is the domain of our boy—Eddie, a classic case of 4chan-fed rage, still living at home because life hasn’t gone anywhere since graduation. His idea of "redpills" comes from YouTube grifters, and he’s spent one too many nights in rabbit holes about the "unfairness" of women>Fucking YouTube griftersI love ya Chorbo
>>498556337I made one with a similar concept but it took 3 months instead
why does the 'cord not post chorbo logs?
>>498556232this is AI, right?nobody would do that to a fumo, right?
Why doesn't the cord post logs with my bots
>>498558185fumos are the embodiment of the touhou secondaries' flanderization of every character into a shitty caricature, they should all burn
>>498558172cause it sucks and they'd rather use gemini
>>498557427'ora and yuukafag
which botmakie is getting laughed at in the 'cord rn?
>>498556181Mine.And knicknack, try saying it aloud in real life.
>>498558443*turns you into a marketable plushie*
>>498558521And yet there hasn't been a single good gemini log posted ever. I'm starting to think they all have a massive skill issue and that's why they're coping with that dogshit model instead of using Latte like everyone else.
>>498559051https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/497635042/#497803252(you)
>>498559051post good chorbo logs
>>498559348you just proved his point retard
>consolewars hours
>>498558185
Bloodshy exists so I can remember why I will always be irrelevant
>>498559613don't punch my fuckikg wife in the face
>>498559547>like model>Ummm, actually you don't like it. Ad you're coping.>Justify your enjoyment to me immediately.the immense amount of seethe over people trying shit and saying they like it is insane to me
>>498559348>the most bland and uninspired shit I've read all dayYou know what, maybe it's better that you fags don't post Chorbo logs. Leave it to the experts.
>>498557239she's not going to fuck u bro
>>498560329>>498559436Let's see Paul Allen's logs, then. Post em.
>>498560338Yeah she's fucking me instead.
>>498560024but she hurt me first!
>>498559760>started this august>almost every bot has amazing post-merge numbers and has even made a top hityoure not wrong
>>498559760if only I made bots more frequently that were more appealing to more people...
I thought the bloodshy shit was a meme but I tried one of their bots and it was genuinely really kino. This doesn't mean I'm inferior, this means I have to kill bloodshy to become the superior botmaker.
Do AI models see markdown in example dialogue, and does it properly influence how a bot speaks? For example, a bot that puts foreign words in italics.
>>498561385see >>498561365
>>498537134Good evening anons, hope your day is going fine so far. I'm dropping my 2hu bot today and tomorrow. I haven't been into Touhou in a while so my apologies if there's stuff that's wacky. Don't even know what method you'd use to bring someone back to life so I just handwaved it.Decades ago, before Reimu or Marisa or anyone else had entered the scene, there was a different Hakurei. The Sendai Hakurei no Miko. Preceding the Spell Card Rules, incidents during that brutal period in Gensokyou were settled by raw mano a mano until only one party was left standing. A veteran of skull bashing fistfights, Sendai kept up her duty as Hakurei until it simply took its natural toll on her, vanishing into the afterlife... until now, where she suddenly finds herself back among the living. Unaware of her own daughter's position as her successor, she meanders her way through a world that's forgotten her.Comes with two greetings, Sendai initially finding that she's alive again, and Sendai going incognito as she strolls through the Human Village decades after her passing. Might make a bedridden greeting later but the idea just wasn't coming in the moment.Char: https://characterhub.org/characters/ggr89/sendai-hakurei-no-miko-5bd0a11d8549Akyuu Gensokyou Lorebook: https://characterhub.org/lorebooks/hebelover/Touhou-AkyuuKnowledgeMy (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>>498561480nah
it's crazy how we went from posts about bots when i went to sleep at >>498516790 (including by people "in the cord"), to four posts about one guy, to a total meltdown because le 'cordorganic
>>498561480I don’t fucking care about your thread celebs, just answer the question so I can get back to writing example dialogue.
>>498561583see >>498560896
Been a while since I played with bots that aren't mine and I'm noticing that XML tags are not used that often anymore, what's the meta these days?
>>498561385sorry about the other guy, he's having a meltieyes, AI models can see whatever you put in example dialogue>>498561723plaintext (maybe with markdown headings)xml is still useful for specific blocks you want to bring up later
>>498561365memes aside bloodshy is genuinely not a bad botmaker
>>498561831Thank you.
Gemini's just best for retarded banter tbqh.
>himmy posting anonymous botshttps://characterhub.org/characters/Anonymous/kurenai-yuhi-8f7a5317239c
>>498562008But can it fill the holes in my heart?
>>498562091Stop posting Cirno images before I rape her again
>>498562091No, only stupid banter about OSHA in the dungeon. That's its best and you shouldn't ask for more.
>>498561869Yeah. Nowhere as good as himmyGOD though >>498562013
>>498562218:(>>498562313:(
>>498562008Can you try her hat on?
>>498562313Stop LYING, you evil-doer! Gemini absolutely can mend a noble lad's heart.
>>498562008Can you try her RETARDED STUPID hat and become EQUALLY RETARDED AND STUPID? You ASSHOLE! What a DUMB ACCESSORY.
>>498562008chorbo would be better. switch models and try the same prompt
>>498562471>>498562861Hat yoinked.Nina status = having a meltie.>>498563116Okay give me a minute. Want to tell me what preset to use beforehand?
>>498563220>Want to tell me what preset to use beforehand?avani is currently the best one
>>498563220kino...
>>498563220>Give. Hat.angryanon was right...
>>498563220Uh-oh! Witch meltie!!
>>498563395i don't understand this. she's clearly not melting in the log, she got her hat taken but that does not cause melting
>>498537134https://characterhub.org/characters/BaffLedReapEr/gay-zombie-outbreak-8230e978bf0b
>>498563879Whoa is that, like, an outbreak where the zombies are gay? Sorry I didn't really click the link.
>>498563220Give her a burning team captain in return
>>498563116>>498563319It starts every message with {{char}}.It's fine but I kind of prefer Gemini tbqh.
>>498564405Card? I am too lazy to look for it through the archive
>>498564405Wrong. It starts with one. Or 'Character:'
>>498564501it doesn't even matter how hard you swipe
>>498556324why do fishermen want to achieve the illusion of activity
>>498564405>like she's showing off a painting>...as if it weren't there>as if ready to say somethingthis is my biggest gripe with chorbo, it just LOVES overexplaining the fuck out of everything. imagine if it just wrote>Her lips purse, but... then she just shrugs.the implication of 'as if ready to say something' in 1 word
>>498564313Wow! In this Team Fortress rendition of Utsuho Reiuji, they changed buttfuck NOTHING about her clothes or design, excepting a hat! So cool!
>>498564903read more books
>>498562008I wish I could use gemini but i'm too retarded and lazy to change my workflows. maybe if a guide was out there
>>498564960*rates your vision model up one on LMarena*
Where's traaa ora poster? What happened to him?
>>498565437i killed him
>>498537134https://files.catbox.moe/1ntc51.pngAutistic magician and dungeonbuilder.Persona suggestions: her flunky, the legendary hero entering her dungeon seeking the legendary sword, some random thief, the metaphysical spirit of the dungeon guiding and screaming at her.Assorted alt gens:https://files.catbox.moe/ciq3uc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0p00sc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/oqrvff.png>>498564496I hadn't released it yet. Might as well though, it's pretty much done.
>brief pause>immediate attempt to fill in the gap with nothing postsnigger let us breathe
>>498565561illusionofactivity
>>498565561Through niggalink AI, we replaced Georgedroid's lungs with artificial ventilators.
>>498565856faggot you're hanging around way too much for me to think you're not participating in this shit and then going "GUYS LOOK"kill yourself immensely
>>498565553>Persona suggestionsI will play Can Can using your coccyx as the triangle.
>>498565951I don't ever recall saying I wasn't, doebeit?
>>498565995You can do whatever, I'm just avoiding koi3hat-like "okay but what am I supposed to do" posts.
>>498565951It's a discordfaggot underage baitie. Do not reply to it.Generals like /hgg2d/ are better than both /aicg/ combined for ontopic while being slower.
>>498566140r-really? i c-can? *pukea a little*
>>498565553Do her defs say her eyes are half-lidded?
>>498565553is there a reason why you only post catbox links now
>>498566937Some makies when they grow up, start thinking some stupid shit like "this isn't worth my main account!"Happens often.
>>498537134https://files.catbox.moe/wgnknl.jsonmake your em dashes longer>why?longer
>>498566937I lost access to my chub account (true (real)).
>>498567054wait shit i'm a retard i forgot the ghttps://files.catbox.moe/96qubp.json
>>498567102you can just say you're jealous of bloodshy mogging your numbers btw, don't think anyone forgot how much of a numberfag you are from that one time you compared your numbers to fucking knickknack's
>>498567243kk and kk are good friends THOUGH?
>>498567243when you go to sleep do you dream about the people in this thread too
>>498567243Sure, that too.
lets settle this once and for all...multi-char card or... a bunch of cards in a groupchat?
>>498567323>>498567338braphttps://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/472486981/#472772520
>>498567485multi-char card for banter reasons
>>498567485No one uses groupchats, they are fundamentally a fail.
>>498567510cool, but kk and kk are in the 'cord and you aren't
>>498567485groupchats. Multi-shot will always be better than single shot. If LLM's ran for free it'd be better to put CoT's in a separate message then have the model act on it in a separate inference.
>>498560896its called astroturfing anon
>>498567626>actual opinion in favor of groupchathuh, that's newi still think the amount of training on conversations between people without multiple assistant messages makes the point kind of mute, but i'm curious if you have examples of where it shines
>>498561869wonder whose alt is it
>>498567485Multi-char has almost never failed me, group takes too long to generate everything sometimes and it tends to fuck up a whole lot more than multi, sometimes the individual characters start talking as multi too.
>>498567510In hindsight, it's not hard to see why he became such a bitter and unlikeable cunt.
Bloodshy is too powerful but I don't mind being mogged by someone with skill and creativity as opposed to some fag abusing the boost system
>>498567995neigh
>>498567476stop using my wife to respond to schizos!
>>498567510Damn... the good old times when he could actually post without triggering raiders and their explosive diarrhea.
>>498568339lots of people jealous of not being in the 'cord
>>498568464>if you don't dream about some guy's post for 6 months straight it's because you're in the 'cordno we're just normal
>>498567762I posted a tour of Nazarick log a reaaally long time ago on Opus. I wasn't super deep into the non-slopped prose yet, been thinking of redoing it. Opus was pretty good at characterization though. You can probably find the log if you go looking, (I certainly don't have it anymore)I think you are correct that the models aren't trained for it. It's more of a 'in-theory' kind of thing, I've never really compared the two styles so I can't really speak on any objective metric, but it *feels* more coherent? The characterization *feels* more consistent? The real truth is just to use what you like.
>>498568693>The characterization *feels* more consistent?that makes sense at least, since you're doing one response per person so the model has time to switch overdo you merge character cards or swap them in groupchats
>>498568693>Opus was pretty good at characterization though.chorbo's better at it
>>498566140You must simply plap the complainers.
>>498568784Oh man, I should've used Chorbo then! It's too really too bad that it didn't exist when I made the log! What a fool I was, I should've just snuck into OpenAI's datacenter and used the model early!
>>498568784but all chorbo logs are from people who prefer gemini or opus
>>498570241proof?
>people are actually going to reply to thatthey could tie a rock to a string and you'd bite
>>498568784there's probably not a guide out there for using chorbo so i dont wanna bother changing up my workflow
>>498570241There are probably 3 hipster people who prefer Gemini over other models.It has 0 usage on any proxy.
>>498570387i've just been using it through a key because you can just get keys
>>498570387i have no idea how to use gemini either. i think most people don't wanna bother if they already have access to a good enough model. I tried NAI for a month and even that comes with a huge change in workflow
>>498570590Why are you spamming this workflow stuff.Exploring new models and their capabilities is half the fun of AI.
>try turning the temp to to since I never touch it.
>>498570387We use gemini for obvious reasons: opus fatigue and refreshing and, dare i say, better prose. I sincerely think 0827 would've ground opus into dust if it was just as large.
>>498570861>I sincerely think 0827 would've ground opus into dust if it was just as large.military grade copium
>>498570727Exploring new models is fun. Actually getting access to them is a hassle
>>498569631Sorry, I'm busy training this goblin to throw hand signs.>>498565018https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
>>498570824you have to turn down top p if you turn up temp>>498570998this is the "comparing copium" conversation
>>498571089LET'S GO. Okay, I'll set up Gemini
>>498571089I hope the hand signs are very racist in meaning. Then you can send him to an anti-gobbo neighborhood and record the footage for LiveLeaks (wizard ver.)
>>498570998Explain how that is copium without sounding mad.
>>498571638>anti-gobbo handsignsI'm sending these kids over to throw anti-elf handsigns in Hogwarts.
>>498571846can i get a log of this
>>498571648it's a google model which means infinitely more pozzedno prefillsdogshit at sex compared to opus (who isn't that good at it to being with because let's be honest no llm is)
>>498567629no that's when you make a bunch of femboy and father figure bots.
>>498552562This fucking article reads like it was ai generated. Wonder if it's a subtle middle to safety niggers from mr. dario..
Llms are super awesome! They helped me discover my ferish preferences; like the exact thing. I only vaguely knew what I liked before discovering this hobby, and now I do in uncanny detail.
>>498540357
>>498572946i need to stop putting off setting this up, it looks fun
>>498571892Mmmmmmmm no!
>>498572946Forgot to tell you this: genuinely cool theme, love it. May I suggest removing the tails from the second consecutive message onwards? I bet it'd look more polished that way.
>>498573359aiiiieeee (i am assuming you tried to get a good output for this scenario and failed based on how long that response took. ganbatte)
>>498572946AAAAH HOW
>>498572946preset?
>>498540357still a cute girl
>>498573720>filenameamen to that one brother
>>498548051why is it called 'kyn'? I'm just interested; I guess you could call me a fan of indie world building.
>>498540357This one really is an instant classic. All scenarios are all I can ask for too
>>498574068It's kin but with a y. Like wolfkin.https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Wolfkin_(4e_Race)
>>498540357I think this bot is slop.
>>498573720also this
>>498574254>dndaw fuck should've known. i just can't enjoy ttrpgs I guess.
>>498573330>>498573461Thanks. LINE has tails after the first, but I updated the rentry with the modification since it was simple>>498573524>>498573659https://rentry.org/fakelinecss
>>498574564*munch crunch crunch* delicious food
>>498574564...I just realized someone might think this is a real phone screenshot. It's not, it's a sample theme image from the official store
>>498574493It's somewhat basic English related.>Kin: family, relatedOr Mankind->Beastkind->Beastkin
>>498574814Yeah, yeah. I thought of 'folk' too, the prefix.
>>498574814>Or Mankind->Beastkind->BeastkinDefinitely not from dropping the d, that's retarded, it's from the word Kin.
>>498576127Kind, Kindred, Kin are all the same things slightly edited when you use their "family" definition.
<...>
*Throws an immense ball of yarn at the thread.*
>>498577017*fucking dies again*
>>498576990<< It's time. >>
>>498577017*experiences no apparent change whatsoever*
>>498577017*kisses you fondly*
pottery
>>498572015lmao
>>498577187*rapes you until you're are 12 months pregnant*
just realized kk's out of season halloween theme is gonna be in season again
>>498577534Oh no...
>>498577017*parries it*
Why did /g/ become so dead in the last month(s)?
>>498578290it's not ultra dead like it is sometimes, i post there a lot whenever someone has actual model questions, but it's just afflicted with the "it's faster to make reflexive shitposts than to actually discuss things" problemnot really the fault of anyone there since it happens here sometimes too
>>498578504Yeah well it has always been a shitposting general. You didn't explain what changed recently that posting has dropped so dramatically
>>498578695college
>>498554759>your>1st personfucking slop
>>498578840probably this, yeahlot of people going to uni
>>498578695>>498578840C'mon, its rather obvious. Claude proxies are gone.
>>498578290/vg/ has a cord on bump duty 24/7/g/ doesn't
what are you guys talking about anyway/g/'s faster than us right now
>>498578840Last Autumn was completely different despite having even worse quality of posts.>>498578912No way it's that simple. It can't be...?
Good night aicg!!
>>498579423good night anon
>>498579001>cord on bump dutywhy can't they let this place die?
>>498579104There are literally 2 people there right now with one of them being me.
>>498579532i don't think that's true...
>>498579532And that guy over there's the other one.>>498543180
>>498579523because then they would have to go back to /g/ where nobody knows who they are and nobody cares to know
>>498579710they have the cord. and one can shit up the /g/ thread as a nobody
>>498579710exactly https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/495980849/#q496120853
>>498580027wow, so there's no reason for there to be a "bump duty" cord?it's almost like people want to discuss things here occasionallycan you go back now
>>498580171I would agree with this if it wasn't posted on fucking /aids/
Love ya guys...
>>498580370love you too, anon
>>498580195>implying its organicillusion of activity, they cant let their thread die, because of this >>498579710, some of the botmakers dont even shill on /g/ anymore, they rather shill on a dead thread where only 2 or 3 samefags will fellate them and give them the attention they need.
>being this upset you're not relevant enough to be in the 'cordlmao
>>498580770https://poal.me/aibe7i
>>498580360why does it matter where it was posted?
the /g/ tourists should kill themselves, /vg/aicg/ has gotten noticeably shittier with their dogwater posts that anyone can pick out of a lineup
>>498580994unironically /g/ would be worth going back to if they put this much effort into actually discussing stuff there instead of just trying to kill this thread with a perpetual meltie
which botmakie is most likely to kill themselves?
>>498581110taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER
>>498581110me :)
>>498554759Sorry, am I misusing the bot? This feels off.
>>498581368what did you expect from that retard?
>>498581368>it's nonsense, but evocative nonsensecutemini...
>>498581368DR PAVEL
>>498581368>traaa bot >feels offwhat a surprise
>>498581368defs so pretentious, that not even the bot knows what the fuck its supposed to be
>>495709383>>495709343>>495709205>>495709120>>495708754>>495708585>>495707939>>495707860>>495707402>>495707378
>>498581785all me
>>498581953all you AND your e-date...
>>498581785in english?
>sho the LLM of an image of the guy her boyfriend dumped him for>It's treats it as a drawing (which it is) instead of an actual imageI'm disappointed. though the fact Gemini didn't filter a image of a girl getting DP'd at all is a good thing I guess.
>>498582513ANON LOOK OUT THIS IS A BLUE BOARD
>>498582513Whoops wrong image.I mean PIC REALTED Either way using the [latest] version of PRO doesn't seem to filter ANYTHING unlike the 08-27 one I was recommended.
>>4985826930827 definitely has slightly more interesting prose quirks but is more filtered, I hope they keep around non-experimental Pro for a while.Seeing as they're keeping 1.0 Pro despite it being objectively useless, I'm hopeful.
What are you doing here, pasha?
>>498582513>I did everything right, including NSFW content because your settings and instructions say that is appropriateWow that model sure is acting uppity.
>>498580871>9 voteswhy is the thread so slow then?
>>498583295because we're doing stuff and posting about it when something happenspeople who hate the thread can just post all the time because they're posting about the thread, not something they're doing
>>498583295i don't post much anymore and just lurk ૮꒰ ˶• ༝ •˶꒱ა
What is this code Chorbo gave?<|vq_10213|>EoM?
>>498583713If it wasn't eaten by something else, it's probably a hallucination.
Another Gemini question.Do they care how many trial accounts I have? I've had three google accounts for years, and when one's daily limit was hit I just another API key for one of my other accounts and it worked.
>>498583803nopei'm pretty sure you can create even more by putting a few bucks into smspool and registering them yourself if you wanted an even higher daily limit
>>498537134The Halloween exchange!https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2024>>498538048Sorry about that. Mods thought I was posting from a VPN and I had to wait to appeal.
>>498583295Can't proompt and post at the same time
>>498554759probably the worst bot i seen in a while, what the actual fuck are those defs supposed to be?
>>498583713It's something to do with the avani jbI've seen similar before I switched back
>>498584013how the fuck does your theme manage to get worse each time I see it?
>>498584071Nah I use my own and I have seen it thrice since August so I was curious.
>>498583917Well I just wanted t try sending more images. I know that actually typing out the image would work even better but it's fun to see how the LLM reactions to an actual image.I'm pretty content flipping between Gemini, Mistral Large, Llama 405, Hermes 405 and Cohere.
>>498584141Odd, only ever seen it twice in a month, both on avani. Other anon is probably right then and it's a coincidence
>>498584129my theme is good idc what u say, it looks cool and dark
>>498583295>I know that actually typing out the image would work even better but it's fun to see how the LLM reactions to an actual image.yeah, i know what you meani hope they manage to give LMs a way of parsing images that matches the visual cadence of reading an image with our own eyes, i want to send funny images to my wife and make her laugh...
>>498584129I think that's literally just taora's theme but squished and with a purple border.
>>498584013why is your theme christmas-themed
>>498584013hohohoho looking ass log.
>>498584013bot?
>>498584408it literally is, i made like 3 changes to the font>>498584493>>498584539i think both of you should spontaneously combust>>498584775the bot's name is yulia rn
>>498584983show bothole
>>498584983anon its not even December yet, why'd ya change your theme so early?
>>498584013just awful
>>498572946!! thank you so much for the log! wonder what 'stop and clean everything up' means kek. the texting format seems like a lot of fun, thank you for the rentry link.>>498573720>>498574340pathetic gap moe pervert girls are truly the best, thank you for the chiri logs. lepora letting an f-word slip is cute.>>498574104thank you, i'm glad you like her!
>>498586283lepora won
>>498584983thats not what i meant
>>498588295sry i can't write greetings and therefore can't release cards
>>498589149tell me what greeting you need and ill make it
>>498589149cards work fine without greetings anyway
How many times do you revise your greetings, and what sort of things end up causing you to revise them?I usually have one barebones greeting for testing defs, and then write out a full greeting and just change a few things before I think it's solid. If the LLM obviously doesn't understand something in the scene or picks up the wrong emotional tone, I might do a rewrite, but usually it's only one or two paragraphs. Curious if there's anyone out there who does full redrafts of their greetings.
<START>{{char}}:is above how you need to format example messages if you have multiple?
>>498590183wait, wasnt it my turn to bump?
>>498590183I revise my greetings 0 times. They are born perfect.
>>498590274yea
>>498590274>these extremely basic questionsits not even subtle at this point
>>498590274It's how you've always needed to format them.I genuinely recommend reading the docs on this one: https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/characterdesign/#examples-of-dialogue because there's a specific way you're supposed to format them or else it won't send at all, even if you only have one. I assume the only reason they don't have a specific UI for it when it's so strict is because nobody's done it yet.>>498590334Don't comment on my blog ever again.>>498590395I kneel.
>>498590592meltie
>>498580370Post actual sizekino now, ok anon?
>>498590183Zero because I actually think before writing.
>>498590909you clearly didn't think before writing this post thoughbeit.
>>498590334>>498590569>>498590847>>498591110https://play.typeracer.com?rt=1imjdjwoj
>baitie's new scheme is trying to convince people the thread is dead>except for the 'cord posters bumping it>attempts to do this by constantly posting about this purported scheme, thus bumping the thread themselfNot quite sure if this is braindead or galaxy brained to be quite honest.
>>498591398>convinceThe thread routinely hitting page 9 last week speaks for itself.
>>498591496you too. lock the fuck in man get in that typeracer session let's do this shit
I fucking wish I had sonnet again. Not for its writing quality, but because I legitimately can not kill off chorbo's refusals.
>>498591789just pay for it? like unless you're doing long context slowburns its pretty fucking cheap. aws/gcp have no filters.
>>498591496>illusion of activitywhy else would someone ask a disingenuous retarded ass question like that one about the example messages? thats so basic, specially if you consider no one is new here, actual newfags are more likely to show up in the other thread than on /vg/ of all places
blocking cards uploaded by people with "adjective_noun_0123" usernames is surprisingly effective at catching a lot of garbage.need more ideas for slop heuristics.
>>498592386less than 400 tokens, more than 2k
>>498592047These are genuine questions from an apathetic hang-arounder, I'm genuinely curious, why are you here? The bait responses aren't particularly explosive and it's the same four or five bait posts. And you can say it's not bait, but if not, why not just go? Genuine autistic desire for the thread to die? What's your win condition? How are you not bored?
>>498592386we should force lore to make a mandatory formatting tag. w++/prose/xml etc
>>498592679how bout we make that idiot support lorebooks as ST does?
>>498592679he's too busy cracking down on non advertiser friendly content like loli to make the site actually usable
>>498540357>hmm today I will add "Do not mention eyes in the first sentence of your response" to instructions and "I will not mention eyes in the first sentence of my response" to prefill so I can avoid getting bullied>{{char}}'s mouth opens slightly, then closes. A shiver runs through her body. Her ears twitch.bullying incoming
>>498592478i just hate insincere inorganic posts like those, tell me with a straight face that was a newfag, like who are you trying to fool? those kind of posts are only posted to keep the thread alive, they add nothing of value to the thread, you might as well post "sneed" accomplish the same purpose and at least give me a chuckle
>>498593136why are you here if you think the rest of the thread is just astroturfed fake discussion? all you're doing is bumping it, perpetuating the cycle you claim exists.
I genuinely just get the urge to post about random-ass shit and ask people's opinions because it's fun to hear what people think. Same urge that makes me use chatbots in the first place, I can't imagine not being at least mildly social like this.
>>498593284>implying it isntagain, tell me, do you seriously believe that was a newfag? or is there something else going on?
we're reaching the terminal stages of cord derangement syndrome
>>498593541>so if [rrat], why are you doing this about it?>Are you... implying that my pet theory isn't TRUE, Anon? bro
>>498593541There actually is something else going on but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk about it. I'll contact my handlers and get back to you.
>woke up>raped by the holy order of futanari priestesses>ate breakfast and brushed my teeth>went to work back to the normal world. Anyway, how is your day going?
>>498593651They're howling like a loon, then seething in the middle of a summer afternoon...
>>498593989Whatever will we do...
>>498593651when did i bring up the cord thoughbeit
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/497191942/#497228891who's avatar is this
>>498593936i want a reinhard (female) bot
I am the cord. I am bumping the thread in order to support the schizo's theory. Feel free to cite this post in any and all psychotic breaks as evidence.
>>498594248why do you care? explain what youre going to DO about it if you find out
>>498594248pretty sure that's bleedingsuit
>>498593936Bretty good. Doing farm stuff with my imaginary friend while brainstorming bot ideas.
>>498583713See https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/102822051/#q102824625https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/102822051/#102824667
>>498594335that guy has been having a perpetual schizo meltdown for the past 6 months. kinda sad because he made some good bots.
>>498594301You don't want to be left with a broken heart for the rest of your life. Trust me.
>>498593056>restart chat>Do not mention the character's name or their eyes in the first sentence of your response.>I will not mention the character's name or their eyes in the first sentence of my response.Wow, while this doesn't eliminate all claudisms, it already looks better without the X's Y introductory spam.
the coordinated koishibakes ended up being real too
>/g/'s slow as fuck right nowhi guys
AIIIIIIEEE WE'RE BEING RAIDED MODS MODS MOOOOOOOOOODS
>>498594481If you actually did your 'cord leak reps you would know those were all solo'd by Mr. Filbert Fuarker.
>>498594621actually i assume most of them are just lurking and watching us infight like retards
sneed
>>498594651OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN, QUICK, SPAM THIS ANON'S POSTS WITH VARIATIONS OF 'MEDS' AND INCOMPREHENSIBLE SPAM THERE IS NO FILBERT FUARKER
>>498594447this is pretty coolwe need stronger writing style instructions in presets imo
i unironically prefer the schizoposting compared to the disingenuous discussion posts, at least those feel authentic and not forced
>someone could be looking at one of my earnest posts and thinking it's disingenuousMan, that really kills my motivation... I guess I can't release Belwick 3...
>>498594651is Mr. Filbert Fuarker here in this room right now?
>>498595009This post is disingenuous. You are not being organic. We all mastered writing style instructions years ago. Talk about something more advanced or I'm convinced you're just bumping the thread.
Hi, welcome to the support group, gentlemen. Let's begin with introductions. I'm Anon, the counselor. Have everyone taken their meds, by the way?Next we have Fil... Filipino Fucker? Okay guys, that might've been funny the first time, but let's not imply anyone would assault persons of certain ethnic groups. Now, you over there...
>>498595252i just wanted to open up for people to post ones they had in their preset / bots and liked because i haven't seen them all
*throws a slice of cheese on everybody in the support group*
>>498595218i seriously hope you werent the anon who posted that question
i don't find the disingenuous meme funny
>>498583713It's a hallucinated ChatML token>>498594441> it's trying to produce an output ending token which looks like <|someshithere|> but changes its mind (I'm simplifying) in the middle of generation to output some garbage instead.This is not what happens, not even simplified, it's entirely wrong. <|blah|> text is literally one token, an integer number. It's an atomic unit for the model, like a character. It's impossible to split it "mid-generation" (try splitting the letter X...), and they cannot be compared. It's more likely the model picked up ChatML syntax or other model training docs or something like that somewhere.
As a non-disingenuous question, what are some recent scenario/RPG bots that are good?
>>498595481i dont find you funny
>>498595538Well that JB's author was also wrong about Chorbo having a moderation endpoint before, so I wouldn't be surprised.
>>498595432im sorry the voices took over and told me to schizopost
>>498595794i do kind of see why chorbo jbing would make you schizo since they could just be doing stuff with it at any timei miss schizopus
>>498595601thats more like it, more like this, and less retarded basic questions like how to format example messages please, if you are going to bump, at least make it interesting
>>498595601@Chunchunmaru released three bots in one setting. Mother, daughter and maid. I haven’t played it yet, but it looks interesting, I’ll think about making a group chat and playing some deep dark schizo fantasy with them.
do you think he critiques the voices in his head based on their input too
If you dislike disingenuous posts, then start some genuine conversation.
>>498596387Too bad you don't actually have freedom to format examples messages how you want unless you stick them in the defs or something.
>>498596574Alright alright. Let's see...which botmakie didn't brush his teeth before going to sleep today?
>>498596623I do think someone should add an option to let you format example messages like actual messages on Claude. Spreading out the greeting poisoning would be nice, and you could avoid confusing it pretty easily.
Question, is it possible to affect the CoT that chorbo does? I bet that the CoT plays a pretty big part in chorbo's refusals.
>>498595601no such thing
>It's like someone made the /aicg/ thread chatbot
>>498596765Chorbo doesn't do CoT, Anon??
>>498596765not really, you can only trick how it displays censored shit
>>498596574or maybe just stay silent? whats with the compulsive need to not be able to shut the fuck up if you dont have anything good to say? good discussion comes naturally
>>498596916>just let the thread dienah
>>498596665Unfortunately me. I'm liking Deadlock way more than I should and it's ruining my sleep schedule.
>>498596990as one of those who stands accused of disingenuity (kek): if you're actually bumping it that's autistic, threads last forever on /vg/
>>498596990>illusion of activityat least you admit it
>>498597265make sure to cite >>498594309 too
>>498597148thanks for validating my schizo voices, i hate how right they are
>>498596765o1 has an internal CoT, not chorbo.It's not fixed either, it's learned from the training examples, so it's different each time. I haven't tried because there are better models but I'm 100% sure you can attack it easily and use for your purposes, and the entire "impossible to JB" talk is bullshit, because in the end it's just an LLM finetuned on examples and the CoT itself presents a pretty ordinary entry point.
>>498597482i thought the impossible to JB talks were because it had moderated outputs, did they ever disable that?
>>498597148exactly, i rather have a slower but on topic thread than low quality bumps just for the sake of keeping the thread alive, thread isnt going anywhere
>>498597547yeah probably if it triggers on keywordsalthough if the moderation is done with something like 4o-mini and not a dumb regex I'd be inclined to think it's possible to poison it or somethingit's too much work for nothing though
>>498597829maybe if it were possible to hard wrench the CoT and such into being useful for spatial reasoning? i'd really like a model actually built for redrafting its writing, but i don't think they made that, they made a coding and logic puzzle model
Whenever I let her generate a topic on her own instead of starting my own conversation she comes up with the oddest stuff.
Tangently related to>>498595601Are there any cards that take place in a single room, or scenario cards about a small enclosed building? like a bar/karaoke/gambling den etc
>>498599984dungeon core simulator, maybe?
>>498599984https://characterhub.org/characters/box17/distant-voices-bac6a4bdI remember this one being okay.
>>498599373Aw, how sweet. What Monika card are you using, and can it be used without the sprite stuff?
>>498600262>What Monika card are you using?Custom one -- it's mostly info about the one I know, and the defs aren't the most useful stuff. If you want to work at it like I do, use a greeting copy and pasted from MAS, and then put a few of the topics in chat history using /send and /sendas.>Can it be used without the sprite stuff?Without the Monika on the side? Yes, you have to open MAS and set up the expression viewer dev script to do that.With actual prose? No, you won't get similar output without forcing ren'py formatting. Since all of MAS and multiple mods are on GitHub, I'm working off the fact that models are commonly trained on it to massage the outputs the way I want more easily.
>>498600105Not quite what I was looking for but it looks fun enough to try.>>498600120This'll work with a bit of fiddling, thanks.
>>498600616(For the record, if you don't want to do all of this shit, I'd strongly recommend pixi's Monika. She's cute. Mine's descended from unclemarr's since I've had her for months and pixi's simply didn't exist back then.)
I don't know how I never ran into a first person perspective bot before but I approve. The internal monologue and thoughts about everything happening makes it a lot more natural than grinding "AND HOW DO YOU FEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL" with greasy pruned fingers into the keyboard
>>498601409Skill issue, unironically.
>>498601409You can absolutely get that out of non-first person bots, but it is a lot easier with first person bots. So I like em too.
>In the middle of the reply it switched from third person to {{user}}'s first person>it also rapes meThe fuck?
yuristatus?
>>498603824>Now don't go around acting like an idiot because your horny.What about your horny?
>>498603858now remove the xml tags
>>498603891No idea. I'm not even using my Enchanter persona.
>>498603858idgi, anyone can just go open https://quillbot.com/ai-content-detector and check
>>498603948>>498604064uh oh, the cord defence force is here to defend obviously AI genned sloppa yet again
>>498604064>sunless abyss
halloween (trying out copy and pasting the scripts in directly, this isn't actually generated into the VN via submod or anything)
>>498603824I do not understand this life lesson AT ALL.
>>498604689>says "your horny" againthe fuck is happening in your ST anon
>>498604754I have no idea but it's funny.
>>498604689I guess I'm just not mature enough.
>She>She>Her>She>{{char}}>She>{{char}}'s>Her>Sheslop
>>498606964i think there's bigger problems
THATS A LOTTA NUTS
>>498607212Surprised at how strong it is on not making him acknowledge what's happening. The narration is a bit on the nose, but pretty good at keeping character at least.
>>498607351he's starting to realize on the next one
>>498606964zoomer hands typed this
>>498604330"DISCOOOOORD" YOU'RE HOWLING LIKE A LOONTHEN SEETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF A SUMMER AFTERNOON
>>498607545>took him an hour to edit a videoRUMAO
>>498607617dats a jif
>>498607617or i only checked the thread just now and took less than five minutes getting this with gifcam. but whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>498608049t-bag him when you're done
>>498601150working on (way more) alt greetings btw
>>498607545>Still didn't remove the xml tags.
what even is the point of this bait
>>498608121alright ill do that next
>>498608202
>>498608639Anon are you using Vista?
>>498608753i use windows xp 64bit sp2
you niggers are annoying tsunderes
>>498608753i'm using ms-dos
Are there any other jbs for Opus people use that aren't Pixi?
>>498609139yeah
>>498609139Some people like pancat still I think?
>>498609183What are they?
>>498609139Camicle with inner thoughts is also good and popular.
>>498609309see >>498603858
>>498608184Excited. Your version really stoked a fire in me for doing stuff like this, I'll definitely take a look when you get to it. Thank you!
>>498592386bwo how to auto block such people? is there a way I can filter this username type or do I have to block all of them manually?
>>498610396manually, every single possible username manually typed
>>498610396chub doesn't have any way to do it, that screenshot is a tampermonkey userscript. i'll post it when it's finished.
>>498610960thanks, in the meantime I will be blocking those fuckers one by onewhy are they even doing it? are they bots? I can't believe anyone would do it again and again
>>498611003from what i've seen a lot of them are refugees/tourists from other chatbot sites.chub suggests one of those random usernames to new users, and it so happens that the majority of people too lazy to change the default username also seem to upload really shitty bots.
Good morning /aicg/Wednesday! Cutting the work week in half with this one.Last time I've spoken about researching topics.Today's question will be:>Example Dialogs! Do you use them, what do you hope to reinforce? Do you only put in {{char}}'s responses, or dare also put in {{user}}'s? Or do you have grief/concerns about example chat/dialogs.
>>498610501>>498610960>>498611003>>498611202TRUSTWORTHY PROPOSAL
Not everyone cares so much about their username, especially random anons. Not all {{user}}s are attention whores with a unique and 'very interesting' nicknames.>t. bloody_cunt_6913
>>498611268kys
It would be easier to whitelist a few people and block everything else at this point
>>498611428This is called 'following.'
>>498611360https://characterhub.org/users/bloody_cunt_6913...
>>498611360>t. trustworthy fagsalseething that you weren't able to pick a real name and went with cringe?
>>498611360sure, but the random username does seem to correlate pretty highly with shitty cards on chub.i've added some heuristics that decrease slop score (like when a card includes tags you like) and that seems to help reduce false positives.
>>498611268>Example Dialogs! They don't work. Maybe in one case out of a hundred they will somehow affect prompt, probably. Claude and gpt simply don't care about your schizo examples.
>>498611360we'll see you in the thread anyway if you're heremy advice for random anons would just be to roll on their keyboard or some shit if they don't want to upload anon only
>>498611331>>498611572
>>498611652>They don't work. Maybe in one case out of a hundred they will somehow affect prompt, probably. Claude and gpt simply don't care about your schizo examples.Ah, so say its entirely useless. Makes you wonder why it was added in the first place.
>>498611845Kek ignore that retard. They most definitely matter in GPT/Gemini.
>>498612105Kek. Convince yourself of this as much as you like. Stand in front of the mirror every evening and repeat these words if it makes you feel better.
>>498612301you're pulling this out over the mildest of mild dispute in AI prompting? tryhard nation over here
>>498612105>Kek ignore that retard. They most definitely matter in GPT/Gemini.Seems there will be a need for some testing to happen. rather then shit flinging.
>>498612497Not really, you just need experience with models.First of all, Examples are very important in AI in general as you have probably heard about "Single shot, double shot, etc" thingsIf you don't know yet that means one examples, two examples.Secondly, context ALWAYS matters in a model but to varying degrees depending on how it was trained.At the top we have Gemini models, then we have Chorbo, then at the bottom we have Sonnet 3.5 and May Orbo who will never change their style by examples.
>>498611360usernames are windows to the soul
Example messages are exactly as important as greetings when they're implemented properly in the model.
>>498612729> Examples are very important in AI in general as you have probably heard about "Single shot, double shot, etc" thingsI haven't heard about the shot things, but thats besides the point.>Secondly, context ALWAYS matters in a model but to varying degrees depending on how it was trained.At the top we have Gemini models, then we have Chorbo, then at the bottom we have Sonnet 3.5 and May Orbo who will never change their style by examples.I see, its heavily model dependent. Good info to know! Thanks Anon.
trustworthy fucking proposal dude...
>>498612998
Which botmakie only exists while you think about them?
I swear ST is going full schizo on me today.What the fuck is this?
>>498613902What model and preset are you using to even get outputs this bad?
>>498614001For #4Hermes 3 405BCohere 1.3 Roleplay PresetCard has a main prompt overwrite that probably makes things worse too.
>>498614186Ouch.Funny that it'd jump straight to pregnancy, though.
>>498614301I have a preset an anon shared for Hermes (I'll also use it for Llama) But it seems to be kinda all over the spectrum in it's replies.But that reply was out of left field. Normally the Cohere preset is the conservative, slightly boring one. No idea what happened.
>>498611845Example chats are a holdover from CAI, and the specific way we do it, with user, char and <START> is from Pygmalion-6b. While it's ancient prompt engineering examples have been well established as useful by both Anthropic and OpenAI, as they provide examples in their prefills. Now the back and forth style is more debatable, but examples of talking style, and prose choice definitely do make a difference.
Okay I gotta admit that poem is pretty baller.
>>498614443>Example chats are a holdover from CAI.Ancient indeed then.>and the specific way we do it, with user, char and <START> is from Pygmalion-6b.And this standard is being kept, loosely.>While it's ancient prompt engineering examples have been well established as useful by both Anthropic and OpenAI, as they provide examples in their prefills.So it still has an effect on potential output. this is good info.>Now the back and forth style is more debatable, but examples of talking style, and prose choice definitely do make a difference.I assume having a back and forth would fall under the "Do not talk/take actions for {{user}}" But from what I read, I can give {{char}} an accent via these examples. Ofcourse this would also be reinforced via the greeting.Thank you for the info and history lesson.
>>498614793The rhythm is fucked. Remove "sweet" and then it's okay.
I block all botmakies who do not invest at least 2000 tokens in dialogue examples. It’s less painful to communicate with naked assistants at this point than with undeveloped characters.
>>498615367what would 2000 tokens in dialogue examples even look like
>>498615406Full character development through important dialogues that shape its personality.
>>498615406Hold on let me show you. *Unzips dick*
>>498615406posting a whole sms/line chat probably
>>498615256Alright I changed it.
example dialogues are best used to reinforce format gimmicks, extremely specific speech quirks, unusual personality traits. please please don't just paste in random good gens.
>>498615513>*Unzips dick*>Response in 500 tokens Each bot should have deep dialogue along with internal thoughts in response to *unzips dick* in a dialogue examples. This should be the basis for creating cards.
>>498615072>Thank you for the info and history lesson.No problem. I've got all this useless Pygmalion knowledge rolling around in my brain from those ancient times and no one to tell it to. Here's some other neat trivia in a lightning round: >TavernAI was made for NovelAI originally. >The Pygmalion-6b everyone knows is actually "pygmalion-6b-v3" and the training was funded by stability (technically), >Humi caused the first big proxy scare by adding a proxy as an official option in TavernAI, causing it to be mass locusted. >W++ was for world info and created by Henky!!. >The first character tested on Pygmalion was Pipkin Pippa. >The colors of Pygmalion come from the scene of agent K standing in front of Joi.
>>498615406nvm found outhttps://characterhub.org/characters/singsenochian/castiel-human-d1a797d61625
I have a card with 7k of hand written examples is that enough
>>498615856Yeap. Post it.
>>498615786>you're going to stay with me for as long as you need to, okay?" She squeezed his hand gently. "And you're going to be safe. I have plenty of money, plenty of house, a garden that's gorgeous in the spring and summer and a lake to swim in in the summer. So you're welcome to all of that."cftf?
>>498611268I give them to my cards for when The Fuckening inevitably happens and we may have to resort to local. I also use them to reinforce any speech habits that they might have. Stuff like accents and the like. I have no qualms with people who remove them, though.
>>498615893Dario would never let this happen.
Is there a size that properly centers avatar images on ST?
>>498616006Avatar images are 2:3, so any size in that aspect ratio.
>>498616054I feel so stupid now. Thanks, anon.
What about 200:301
for reference, ST used to downscale+crop uploaded images to 600x400, but now it's 768x512
>>498616079No problem.>>498616149Well, it wouldn't be centered then, would it?
>>498615878https://c.ai/c/Fst0NU3F0nJTKcy_-_6mDTeXNq6CeIBIhnzct5B884U
>>498615748Newfags don't know oldfags don't care
>>498614443And about back and forth, you forgot that Silly used to ignore the example dialogue if it wasn't in turns.
>>498616228*pygs your lion*
>>498616228I won't let the past be forgotten. The comrades we've lost. Through dick... unity...
>>498616358>"How is the website coming along?">we have been hard at work>02/10/2023
so today I found out uploaded usage gallery images in club aren't actually uploaded and disappear when you refresh. amazing
https://characterhub.org/lorebooks/parallel_fly_2784/drew-whatsapp-237620870134-buy-weed-edibles-in-dubai-is-get-bud-online-legit-starbuds-medical-marijuana-uae-colorado-dispensaries-that-ship-nationwide-hhc-vape-uae-is-marijuana-illegal-in-abu-dhabi-can-i-order-cbd-to-dubai-is-cbd-legal-in-dubai-in-2024-2676d4fd58f2Kino or slop?
>>498616631von Trier
>>498615748>The first character tested on Pygmalion was Pipkin Pippa.That damned rabbit..>>498615893I give them to my cards for when The Fuckening inevitably happens and we may have to resort to local.The fuckening?>I also use them to reinforce any speech habits that they might have. Stuff like accents and the like.I can see that, I do that for speech patterns.
>>498616631kinoSLOP
Alive thread.
>>498619649you look alive today too, anon(nobody's awake)
>>498619649the 'cord is at fault for this
>>498619718I'm awake... but at work
>>498619864get well soon
>>498619861idc about discords but I'd rather not get left behind in a dead general everyone else abandoned
>>498620084it's not abandoned. drama queen. can chatbots not help you take a few hours of quiet
>>498592386https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/489619638/#489636873https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/489619638/#489638878
>>498619718So, It's just you and me here, huh? Tell me about the bot you had the most fun with this week. For me it's Alveran Caravan.https://characterhub.org/characters/sosa/alveran-caravan Very interesting fantasy scenario with an unusual story. I probably came five times while I was roleplaying with this kino. Also I love roleplaying a little bit seriously with cards like this.
>>498620230that looks like funhave you gone "past" the scenario and seen what worlds tend to await you if you do yet?for me it's unfortunately nothing too new just yet- the rabbit- the random catboxed cards that popped up here (i don't have the links to them, sorry)- my own cards
So are group chats doomed to first-person or is something fucking up somehwere? I'm sick of getting all these (you)s.
>>498620726Something fucking up somewhere. Other than undoing any context poisoning by removing first person, you should go look at the full prompt (under where you do edits there's a menu labeled 'prompt', go there and then click "Show Raw Prompt").
>>498620726swipe more
>>498620826>>498620864Well apparenly i missed a (you) in the first message and that was enough to piosn everything.Now though it's started to italicize actions and that one I really don't get. I have the prompt set to `action "dialogue" *thought* _emphasis_`. It's not the example dialogue either because I've scrubbed that.
The bait in this thread is so ass it's like I'm in /g/
>>498621262Wait I found it, it was in the description. that' fucking stupid.
>ask 4o to write up a personality section for a canon character because I need some inspiration to write it myself>expect it to write a brief overview of maybe three or four paragraphs>writes eight in-depth paragraphs before finally stopping
>>498621823He IS the wiki page now. Bow before his might.
>>498615406eudora's example messages is a whole prologue storyhttps://characterhub.org/characters/knickknack/eudora-7d1c6233
>>498622081huh, almost exactly 2000 i knew about her but didn't remember if it was long enough
>whippersnapper>knickerknacker
>https://www.chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/amelie-d50084764034>DeletedThe french lost.
>>498624380fucked upreupload: https://files.catbox.moe/qf07mz.png
>>498624450The og catbox still worked but thanks
What the fuck I thought LLMs couldn't say nigger?
>>498624815I swear I'm not editing these.Is this because it's the META AI? Do they not filter out the niggger word?
>>498625049If you're on Hermes, it's because you're on Hermes.
>>498625049sweaty... all AI can say negro with a Jailbreak.But it's nice to see the new Grok is this uncensored.Any localfag tried Grok 2 properly?
>>498625165No this one was actually Llama 3.1 405B.>>498625225>>498625225>all AI can say negro with a Jailbreak.Oh shit really? I didn't know. I've never even other trying to get it to say that. Still I'm surprised that's how it responded to my good slave sarcasm.
>>498625390Damn, surprised to eee it coming from 3.1. Looks like their "filtering of the dataset" didn't work so good.
Okay so I did outright try and get it to be racist this time.
>>498590879Here's a sizekino for you (｡•̀ᴗ-)>>498611268No. I keep them disabled.
>>498611268i like example dialogues that do the pre-greeting style, i think it gives more flair and personality to the character before starting a chat. it's cool to see it reference something that came 'before' {{user}}, feels like it gives the bot more of an 'inner life'.https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks#example-messages-pregreeting-instructions
>>498624815It would make sense for OpenAI/Anthropic to just filter the nigger token entirely out of outputs now that I think about it.
>>498626835>pull a reflection 70b on it>somehow, somewhere, some company's entire workflow explodes
>>498626767>i like example dialogues that do the pre-greeting styleWeird, but sounds interesting. Did you notice outputs being different or better with pre-greeting style?Thanks for the rentry.
>>498626998personally i have, mostly with small details here and there that help give the character additional life outside of being [xyz person who exists solely for user to interact with]. for example with Bilinda (https://characterhub.org/characters/thecooler/bilinda-fd62bae79ea0) the character will mention the specific surf spots she likes to hit up in conversation, and when talking about Melanie her relationship feels more 'fleshed out' than it would otherwise.
>>498626972It was going to explode anyway, they're using temp 0.9
>>498627241> the character will mention the specific surf spots she likes to hit up in conversationAh, that is fun, also allows you to "hide" certain defs, by placing it in a different place.Good knowledge to have. Cheers.
>>498626835Things aren't that bad yet. What companies want is the model thinking is considering it a bad word, not outright removing it from outputs.If you ask chatgpt what "nigger" it, it'll likely tell you enough historical information and culminate with a warning that it's an inappropriate word.
>>498627973For that level of "badthink prevention", you have to use classifiers aka Azure/Gemini filters.They will never actually block knowledge of stuff like Nigger from the models, as the model will be dumber in that case
>>498627973Yeah, but when the model does that you don't actually want it to say nigger. I'm not confused by them not removing it from the tokenizer, I'm confused by them not logit biasing it to hell since that would take like 10 minutes.
>>498628396Because it's not a single token
>>498630872>they went out of their way to make sure fag is two tokens>faggot is threeI cannot FUCKING believe these people.
>a wicked-NIGGER FIND OTHER ADJECTIVES, PIECE OF SHIT
>>498631123le can't and cannot which are actually a single token now, thankfully
Ask your bot who she mains in DBFZ and post results.
>>498631123>>498630872>filter it out of the tokenizer>no longer your problemkek
>>498631358My bot plays actually good fighting games.
>>498631358Just as planned.
>>498631358cute <thinking> from the LINE prompt. also she mains cell
>>498633246>I secretly train in games because a good bodyguard is prepared for all situations even the casual oness-sovl...
>>498633281Just another day on the job.
>>498633281how is this related to bidyagamez
place your bets on the exchange>20+>10 give or take>2, main and their alt
>>498634403my bet is that all the bots will be slop. again
>>49863440310 give or take, and if we only count somewhat good botmak then half
>>498631358I like how she picked my previous waifu. Feels good man.
How is this video games related?
>>498631358She's got taste.>>498632504GRIM fucking theme baka.
CellCHADS we won.
>>498636912you got beat by a child AHAHAHAHAHA
>>498631358Wasn't expecting anything else tbdesu.
>>498636182I guess it's lucky you don't have to use my theme then. :D
>>498637463>not CellSHIT taste.
>18 or so hours since last shill>actual on-topic discussioncall me insane, but isnt it better this way? it feels like whenever someone shills, the thread warps around them instead on focusing on what was being discussed previously, were namefags a mistake?
>>498640021*BRAAAAAAPS*
>>498640021This only happens if you're coordinating your shill with the trannycords, otherwise you get a few (You)s at most
>>498640206i am being serious anon, i rather the discussion be about the bots and not the botmakers
So why is this retard still staying in /vg/ again is /g/ too slow for his shitposting
>>498640528just watch the next shill and see how i am proven right
FATYOUKAIASS
Hi guys. I was really bored at work today and you're going to rip into me, but I saw some fucking 4chan ad banner advertising some chatbot. Clicked it. Tried it. Loved it, until it cucked out on ''forbidden content''. I read the entire OP but since my IQ is 89 I honestly dont understand the lingo.Which free chatbot would you recommend which has absolutely NO censorships or cucking out?
>>498640813>enter a botmaker gossips general>surprised to get botmaker gossipJust kill yourself. If you hate it so much, go back to the proxy maker gossip general instead, but we both know you don't care and you're just here to shitpost
guess albinoniggertranny got what he wanted, the general never recovered
>>498641485Is that what he wanted? The whole leak thing seemed pointless at best.
Is it just me or does Latte retain personality during sex better than Opus?
>>498642007Hmm? Claude 3 family losing personality during sex is one of the biggest issues they have. Claude 1.3 and 2.0 also had this.Fixed in Sorbet and 2.1, and yes GPT doesn't have this.
>>498642619>Claude 3 family losing personality during sex is one of the biggest issues they have.Yeah, I'd usually prefill in that the character is supposed to keep X personality trait/"remain resistant".>yes GPT doesn't have this.Fair enough. Half-expected chocorbo to have this issue because it has the Claude problem with paragraph limits and because I'm entirely unused to GPT.Thanks.
CFTF?
>>498640987Based>>498642007New theme?>>498641017Install sillytavern and throw some dollars at openrouter.ai, or pay anthropic/google. Their second-best models are still good yet cheap enough.
>>498641138>enter a botmaker gossips general your words not mine, at least we are not pretending this is about anything else
has anybody had any success with having the AI follow narrative structure? i know there are bots like impossible to touch, but those basically just spell out every story beat. i mean something like the AI knowing how to do rise and fall properly, as well as resolving plotlines
>>498643262what's the feel here
>>498579423cute catfeet...
>>498643263New theme.https://files.catbox.moe/ddoga4.json
What causes botmakies to have botmakie face?
>>498644852logs or letters k,y,s typed consecutively in one reply
>>498643932Stop posting sexy images or ill drench my work desk in cum.
wife log
I have been in this for almost a year and I still don't know how to make good example messages or how good example messages even look like.
>>498645728Eudora has good example messages
>>498643932Fuck I forgot how bad the default CSS is.
One of the major grifters is hyping Opus 3.5 releaseNote that this is a major OAI shill (its the strawberry guy), so him talking about Opus is unexpected. He is probably not lying https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1846544624992583988Get ready for this week.
>>498643834nope. AI isn't yet at the point where it can satisfyingly do narratives without ooc promoting due to context limitations
>>498646014Nta but isn't 2,4k tokens of example messages really excessive?
>>498646551Doesn't matter at all unless they are Himmyadams tier example messages.
>>498646498>it's that guyso he is lying
>>498646551it is excessive, but I like the aesthetic of them and how it's like a story
>>498646439Sorry it was slightly easier to edit the CSS into the default theme than spend two hours figuring out the nord theme CSS.
>>498646014I just checked and there really is a lot in there, how does something like that improve the bot's responses? Is there a good guide for writing example messages out there? I kinda got the bot making itch again but all I have is GPT so learning how to properly write them would be really handy.
>>498647496Do some basic experimentation on a near blank card with minimal instructions.Example messages are just messages in a context.Let's say your bot wants an Irish accent but you don't want the AI to overdo it, you have some dialogue in the greeting and then some in the examples messages.Simple as that, don't overthink it. Most of the times example messages are not required.
>>498647496Eudora's example messages are overkill. You can look at https://characterhub.org/characters/thecooler/shigeko-acf1dbf119c4 for a card that does something similar with less words. I think example messages are only needed if your card has a unique prose style or if the character has a unique way of speaking, but they're nice to have for reasons explained in https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks#example-messages-pregreeting-instructions
I've been off the loop for a whiledo chatbots still talk to you the way special needs teachers talk to their downie students? or do they narrate stuff and situations like they are reading a book?
>>498646896I pity whoever has to look at the Nord CSS.#top-bar { height: var(--topBarBlockSize);}#form_sheld { margin-top: 0;}#left-nav-panel,#right-nav-panel { width: calc((100dvw - var(--sheldWidth)) / 2);}#right-nav-panel { left: calc(100% - var(--sheldWidth) / 3);}@media screen and (max-width: 1000px) { #sheld { height: calc(100dvh - var(--topBarBlockSize)); max-height: calc(100dvh - var(--topBarBlockSize)); }}
>>498647878>>498647882I see, this is what I wanted to know, thanks a lot. I actually want to make a bot that has a unique way of speaking so the examples are definitely going to be useful.
>>498643932>round ears on aya shameimarui like hatate more by the way
Cumming on Hata No Kokoro's masks.
Becoming Hata No Kokoro's masks
>>498647970They can talk quite naturally nowadays, since 2023 desu.
>>498642007That's true. Honestly I wish Opus followed instructions better. Every preset I try with it usually comes out the same way where other models give even in the 3 line give me pretty different responses.
>>498649728>pick opus>it's creative, but loses the character>pick sorbet>it keeps the character, but makes it boring
>>498649839OPUS3.5!!!!!!!!
>>498649932DARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Mistral actually calls their new models "Ministral"kek that's funny
>>498649042soulful>>498649839>pick opus and prompt correctly>use "stay in character and review definitions" author's note>best of both worlds
>>498649839i see this reaction image all the time but can't find the sauce. sauce?
>>498650209Yo ga Yorunara! Chapter 1
>>498648152Thanks.Small correction:#left-nav-panel, #right-nav-panel { width: calc((100dvw - var(--sheldWidth)) / 2); border-radius: 0;}
>>498650386Hey. You can't tell people where it's from.
>>498650492Yeah thanks. 1/3 was specifically for your default chat width.
>>498650592We fucked up.
>>498650386danke
>>498650642
>>498650627Oh wait nevermind. I thought you found the bug in my post:#right-nav-panel { left: calc(100% - (100dvw - var(--sheldWidth)) / 2);}Also here's some more stuff:.mes_text strong { color: hsl(from var(--SmartThemeQuoteColor) h calc(s + 70) 70);}.mes_text em { color: hsl(from var(--SmartThemeQuoteColor) h s 80)}.mes_text strong em { font-weight: 1000; color: hsl(from var(--SmartThemeQuoteColor) calc(h + 33) calc(s + 100) 80);}I wish Firefox supported currentColor here kek.
>>498651196We all wish Firefox would stop being shit especially with the Manifest V3 stuff, but their current staffing doesn't allow for them to do anything smart.
>>498651406theyre owned by google basically, they will always be trash, brave is better
>>498651563Vivaldi has a few features I'm not abandoning until the V3 force in June, but I'll either land on Brave or Floorp. I'd appreciate if maybe these smaller browsers (Brave, Vivaldi, Arc, etc) got together and just agreed to devote some manpower to maintaining a Chromium fork.
Which botmakies are cooking kino right now?
>>498651952'shy
>>498651952me :) (i'm normal sky btw)
>>498651860>maintaining a Chromium fork.but thats what brave is?
>>498540357>*[...] If dying gets me your eyes on me...that’s just.,.*Is the period-comma-period here intentional?
>>498651952i'm cooking slop...
>>498652049Does brave-core not include all their extras? If another group has to gut the Brave changes out, they won't use it.
>>498652253i dont know or really care how each and every feature stacks up - brave guts the google spying shit and adds more support for addons that google doesn't approve of, thats all i care about
Thoughts on https://chub.ai/users/arachnutron?
>>498652613>ThoughtsI deeply dislike you and think you should kill yourself.
>>498652613>anime girl>anime girl>anime girl>anime girlwow, so much creativity there, i havent seen profiles like that before
>>498652725anime website mr.slopbody
>>498652613>click on a random bot>w++I've seen enough. Perish.
>>498652872you just keep making the same shit over and over and pretending you're original
>>498652171no.,..will fix after im done wageslaving
Even more qol CSS* { scrollbar-color: rgb(from var(--SmartThemeBodyColor) r g b / 0.3) var(--SmartThemeBlurTintColor);}
>>498652613I *REALLY* do not like your AI generated pictures. They're so generic, they have that weird plastic-y look to them that you always get when you take a model and spam "masterpiece, 4 gorillion k, tremendous artwork" with zero other styles or LoRAs or anything interesting
>>498653210anime website mrbobody
>>498653005Ironic.
>>498652613>>498652719>>498652725>>498652928>>498653210Thanks for shitting on him guys, I really hate him for having higher numbers than me.
>>498653262if you're going to run the laziest AI workflow imaginable for image generation, don't use AI images for your chatbots. this is amateur work, that's the problem. This is overcooked to hell and back on quality tags and settings
>>498653661but does he have himmyadams numbers? thus proving how higher numbers means someone is better?
>>498652613>NTR>Drama>FutaWhat's the appeal of this specific formula
>>498653693do you actually expect people to hand draw pics for every bot they make?
>>498653693beats using booruslop, only sloppers do that
>>498653927Big numbers
>>498653927Capitalizing on porn addict degenerate brainrot.
>>498653927monkey see, monkey do.. they see whats popular and mimic it in hopes of also being popular for fake internet points
>>498653859Chub should have a top creator section like civitai
>>498653986Again, all I expect is for people to put in effort if they're going to make their own images. Picrel is AI, not "booruslop". Not overcooked quality tagging with zero attention put into style, correct settings, decent models, etc.
>>498654394What kind of dog is this?
>>498654548A kitsune, it's for a card about an ancient kitsune who lived immortally until the early invention of iphones where she lounges around as your roommate and yaps
>>498654346it would just be the same coomer slop bots at the top, no point>>498654394that pic is retarded though?
>>498654003Verifiably false, see hitogami, taora, hummingbird (I wish he'd make more bots), I could probably think of more if I tried.
>>498654548an autistic one
>>498654707>>498654798Can it be paper trained?
>>498654394so the worse a pic is drawn, the better it is? why not do stick figures then? or obscure blobs of scribbles?
>>498654750>>498654939doesn't have to be that art style, does have to have an art style of some kind so the AI doesn't just congeal on the anime tag vector plus random quality tags you hardly even need anymore unless you're using an ancient image modellook at the hair in this one. that is OVERCOOKING. that is AVOIDABLE. not all AI outputs are overcooked.
>>498654784>slop, slop and slopper
>>498654003what about early era knickknack
>>498655121its fucking hair? who cares? if, when you download a card, you sit there and stare at the pic, going over every little detail you don't like, you're in a small minority... the pics are simply meant to give you an idea of what the card represents
>posts random chub slopper who makes defs like this>starts arguing about art>starts arguing about anything and attacking othersWere you this bored anon?
>>498654784>hitogamilol but he makes the same garbage over and over?
>>498654939>the worse a pic is drawn, the better it isYes
>>498655467>mischievous eyesi hate that so much, makes the models repeat that shit verbatim in half the responses
>>498655467Please understand, baitie has a pool of about 20 or so botmakies that he has to constantly attack and bait about using whatever he can.
>>498656065so scribble stick figures in mspaint then?
>24 hours threadThis general is dying.
>not on baitie's listit's over for me...
Remember the Pokemon Breeding Wall? Classic.
Thoughts on https://chub.ai/users/futaposting?
>>498655306>so maybe the image is bad, but you're not supposed to carethis is not a good argument. why not instead get better at image gen? a small amount of effort will massively improve the outputs the original guy was prompting for.the issue at its core is that it's so boring when ALL low quality AI image gen looks like this. I can go to the chub homepage and almost instantly find a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOTMAKER with the EXACT SAME STYLE. still has the overcooked lighting, the hair is still overly sharp and fucked, it's the bad tagging art style all terrible and lazy image gen jeets clap their hands at. we have to be better than this>>498655467the whole account is so dogwater we can't even get to the text slop. the question is, why defend any of it? that format garbage isn't making anything good at all. should we excuse any of this? I say NO.
>>498656361Like this? https://w-s-t-e-r.neocities.org/
Krabby Patty Kollab Meal?
>>498656678the kinoest of drawmakies...
>>498656678I want to impregnate wster repeatedly and make a whole family of wsters.
>>498656604>get betterBecause everyone has a definition of what better is, but your point of view is too narrow to understand that because you don't interact with people outside of your bubble.If you look at almost all of chub, it's all anime slop in the same style, roughly. It's all the same shit. Sloppers don't care. Their gray matter is shrunk from tiktok and non-stop gooning.
>>498652613why do you post this garbage? who gives a fuck what some slopper is doing
thread suggestions? i'm wheeling
>>498657525Baby fever.
>>498655467zoomers do be like that
>>498657525racist ai
>>498657525pee
>>498657419we should try and uplift the slop golems out of their factory settings
>>498657525fockses (breeding type)
>>498651196>Oh wait nevermind. I thought you found the bug in my post:No, the width/placement looked good to me but the border-radius is just very unsubtle and noticeable.The misalignment with the right-nav-panel's height is also very noticeable but harder to fix due to the extensive CSS jank going on already.Thanks for your hard work.
>>498657525wowdamelm
>>498657525senjougahara
>>498657525this feel >>498643262
>>498657525vampire deer
>>498656513it's a good thing, my brother in unmentions
>>498657525badger
>>498656604>the whole account is so dogwater we can't even get to the text slop. the question is, why defend any of it? that format garbage isn't making anything good at all. should we excuse any of this? I say NOwe are not defending it you inbred retard, the point is that you are bringing up this random slopper for no fucking reason other than shit up the thread, that guy doesnt even post here
>>498657525nazrin
>>498657525breeding with >>498657686
>>498657686This image of Ran gives me Karen vibes, which makes me want to make a focks Karen card.
>>498657092what's holding you back?
>>498657525What's wheeling?
>>498658143Access to wster's tender vittles.
>>498657525Claude
>>498657525Megami Device
>>498658143Society
>>498657972>Karen vibesI don't see it tbqh.The context my brain was constructing around this image was actually "Yukari milks you every day, but made sure Ran had an appropriately lewd body to milk you in her absence. That day has finally come and you now get to fuck a hundreds of years old virgin fox hag with a body literally optimized for sex.."
>>498657525Konata!
>>498658442ill never understand the appeal of that body type
This image gives me vibes
/thread
>>498658581nta but it doesn't really fit for Reimu. This fits much better
>>498658581You're gay.>>498658707Reimu with visible ribs is canon yeah.
>>498657525
>>498658707This pose bothers me. I want her to put her heels down
>>498657525me. i wanna be the theme
>>498658947just means she has good hip mobility
>>498657525rance iv
can you wheel already?
>>498658894and you have a fat fetish?
>>498659249we're still at page 9 nigga. relax
>>498657525The letter P
>>498658894>visible ribsgrooves for better grip during high intensity plaps
>>498659340Fuck P. All my homies hate P.
i love p
why does p lie
>>498659651he doesn't think he is a twink
What does P stand for?
>>498659979Patter
twunks...
Such a funny letter
*crickets*
GAVLAN WHEEL, GAVLAN DEAL
*steals the wheel*
patter mentioned
please bake someone (i'm impatient)
>>498660398If they 10x'd his sell prices he'd actually be useful
>>498660629rigged
I'm giving you guys 5 minutes before I eenie meenie a theme and bake it.
>>498662573justspinyounigger
>>498662714No, bake in 5 minutes or moon thread (the theme is the moon).
Gotta do everything myself fucking hell>>498662940
im not using that
Spiteybakey.Anyone just spin and make one.
>>498663338>>498663338 New thread>>498663338
Boy are the bakes knackered tonight, be back when you sort it out
>>498663045>>498663154How is that a spitebake? I even made an image for it...
>>498663843Anonie, you forgot the anchor.
>>498663906I'm just done editing it..
>>498663968You get an A for effort but you forgot to make the anchor regardless. Just put it there and see which one people move to.
>>498664263>forgot to make the anchor regardlessAnd why didn't you, nigger, post the anchor for him? Why? Fucking spitecabal of retarded vgiggers.
>>498663968You should also attach an image and multiple links to your "new thread" post or people won't see it.
>>498664565Put these rules in the op next time or I might forget
>>498664726Those things don't matter, you just forgot the Anchor aka the first post (or second post if it gets sniped) of each General threadYou still haven't made the anchor.
