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Her love story was cute but I think it's odd for her to stop making bombs
Soon. Who else excited!?
>>498566018>Doesn't count towards origin limitbreak counter>Both are mediocre in terms of gameplay and meta>Chaos units so it'll take 700~ rolls to origin both and 2000 if you're gunning for O5
>>498565923It made sense in the context of her love story; but it did feel like she needed some crazy quirk to replace it>>498566018Over a month left...
>>498566018>collabshitNah, thanks, I'm rolling for Wehri.
>1000 rolls to O5>People actually defend this
>>498566018I'm good with just a copy
>>498566018Only getting one copy to put to work in my town.
hide and ignore
>>4985664741200 actually, 1000 is only 87% so there's a 13% chance you'll have to do more rolls.I want to recommend the game to friends but I'd just get laughed out the second I tell them how many dupes it takes to max out a character. I think the game is fun though, just not exactly something I would recommend to my friends.
>>498566619It's blatant trolling at this point and /vg/ isn't /b/, so...
Post your favorite piece of art of your soulwife to convince me that she is the best. I've also been wondering are there any girls that don't have any art?
>>498566619Agreed, it's just bait at this point.
>>498567132sorry bwo we're too busy seething to discuss the game try again later
>>498567132This is the best she's got.
>>498567132>are there any girls that don't have any art?There are more girls without art than the ones that have anything at all.
>>498567132
>>498568251This is alright. I would have thought Otoha would have quite a few pieces she seems popular>>498568325This is good. I know Mephi and Beleth have quite a few pieces so I wonder if Lilith will too.>There are more girls without art than the ones that have anything at all.Now that I think about it doesn't the divegrass banner have most of the girls? It's not exactly what I meant but I guess there's that for anyone who has a niche soulwife.>>498568697Squish>>498568835I want to roll for her but I don't know what her personality is like. Where does she show up? Is she from the latest story chapter?
>>498567583>>498566619>>498566963What are you schizos sperging out about?
>>498566018>soon>still 5 weeks away
>>498565736Roadmaphttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1VNNve1uFVvoUZsZ9HAkT-W6RkVHpAAmb/view
>>498569447What a boring month. Good thing Renee love story and new event comes the very last day
>>498569447Dead gameDead monthDead quarter
>>498569569I'm exicted for Halloween and sexy circus Nicole.
there seems to be a suspicious amount of official bare feet art or is this normal for koream gachas?
Nice, I reached the point where the game doesn't want me to play it anymore.
>>498565736>max sex best Beleth!
>>498573978>Hoyo main gameI mean it's not wrong
Any chance of a Claudia rerun soon? I'd rather roll for her over cringegod Lize
>>498574489I feel like we had a claudia run somewhat recently
>>498574489When that event gets a rerun, which should be after anniversary.
>>498574809>after anniversaryfuck me dude do I really have to hold for 3 months
>>498572234It's lacking.
>>498572234Most people aren't footfags so this shouldn't be surprising
Reset Mica!
>>498576417I hear mica has a team that makes mediocre gacha games
>>498577083Cute dork!!
>Hit hard wall at 3 team battlefronts>No resources or characters to make any thing other than a mediocre team 1 and game suddenly wants me to have threeSo what do I do now? Hitting progression walls like this sucks dick
>>498577512Comfy time. You can do whatever one time side content you have available like ToOs and gates and gradually build up your roster over time. Game's dailies are super quick to sweep so it's not usually an issue.
>>498577750Hitting a hard wall is the opposite of comfy though
good morning /esg/>day 7>box 9>500 gems spent>1 sold-out box>1x 40 arti tix
>day 7>box 4Okay, the game hates me.
>>498580076Bro how?I'm at box 10 already.
>>498580395>Bro how?It's called bad luck you retard. Some people have good luck, some people get fucked by RNG.
>>498580539No need to be so rude
>>498580076>>498580395I'm 10 rolls into box 6, so together the 3 of us even out
>day 7>box 8>1 ticket per day>>498579848Morning jammie!
Post Otoha team for pvp please.
>day 7>box 10
Beleth is getting hit by the middle child syndrome in the choose your ark eventEveryone wants either Mephi because she's your canon starter wife or Lilith because she's the latest whore but rarely beleth
Beleth is the superior operator.
Jammies!
I hereby claim Linzy (Thanatos) as my wife and no one else's. You're all invited to our wedding, /esg/.Finally got her to Origin+5 (with a spare Epic+ for emergency cuddling purposes).
https://x.com/gehsz7ajmjlz4ck/status/1845971782458921009Damn, look how THICK they are.
>>498594613whales truly have all the luck...
>>498594701I didn't even whale, I just saw cLinzy when she was revealed and immediately stopped using Erika tickets. Then I got the CEO's birthday pass that gave 3 alchemy tickets per day for two weeks for 15 bucks. Only that last 10-pull was with jims.
>>498565736I really hope the Halloween event gives Flynn some love.
Who's the cutest soul?
>>498601056Your soulwife
>>498601056me :3
bwos how are your gates? I just managed 315, 150, 100, 100, 100
>>498573978>Beleth gameDamn right!
>>498610606Depths cause me physical pain so only 63. Cleared all HBFU gates and almost caught up with ToOs.
>>498569447Weren't we supposed to get Catherine's Tower of Origin? What happened to that?
>>498584808It's not optimal, I just like using Undead and people struggle against the melee rush down protected by Cath. I've swapped Petra for Onyx recently and it's still undefeated.
>>498620624Cringebros...
>>498594664cute grippers
>>498614132Now you mention it they didn't talk about ToO at all for this quarter.
>>498614132They seem to be struggling. Main story delayed from September to November, Renee love story delayed from September to end of October, Jacq/Erusha love stories were meant for q4 but delayed into next year, no new ToO.
>>498624557I wonder why?
>>498625063too many people skipping banners... eos soon
>>498625063They are probably scrambling to fix the game after the Larimar fuck up. They said they're having to introduce mechanics and new ways to keep the games balance.
>>498625063They might hope the quarter can be carried by the collaboration which will enable them to have a very strong anniversary (Q1)
>>498626283Attack that instakills demons with names starting with "L" bros...
>>498625063Probably putting more resources into JP release than they thought
>box 4
>>498628346bro my liz...
>>498626283Add a boss that discriminates based on breast size, or breast and race
>>498625063
>>498631267I play CS too bwo :3
>>498625063People went apeshit over a recolor for O5. I don't think the playerbase wants them to be able to monetise the game in any meaningful way and just hopes it gets by based on charity from players.
>>498634391the O5 skin was released after the roadmap, where it wasn't menmtioned at all. their roadmap was just very lazy this quarter and missing a lot of things, giving vague dates
>>498634391holy shit how long will you butthurt about that O5 skin? literally any player that cares about eversoul is happy, and I am proud owner of that skin, how are your hands now? shaking? I bet
>>498634823Reread the post again ESLtard>>498634754Well announcing it ahead of time would have probably gone against it's intended purpose to begin with
>>498635247keep seething more, keep shaking more, players don't give a fuck about your retarded opinion
I'm gonna fuck the dog
>>498635843how many times do we have to tell you?
>>498635729My original post says that people freaked out over O5 costumes being added both in this thread and on the korean side making it seem like they don't want the game to be monetised in any meaningful way. The phrasing makes it clear that I am not one of those people. I actively defended the decision. Do your reps because you aren't passing as a native English speaker right now.
>>498636402sorry for misunderstanding, I accept your confession
>>498636402The issue is they waited too long after repeating several times they didn't want to monetize cosmetics. Of course people will be a bit upset when they go back on their word.
>>498637348I haven't seen the quote but someone said they specifically said "outfits" and the recolors don't really count as a new outfit in my opinion but I can see how some might have found the wording deceptive. Ultimately I don't think it's a big deal though.
>>498610606I reached depths 1 on all of them and didn't feel like thinking.
good night /esg/
>>498645078But it's morning
good morning /esg/
LIZ IN 7 HOURSTHIS IS NOT A DRILL
>>498635843do NOT fuck the dog
>>498645078good night jammie>>498647749good morning jammie
>>498637348they never said they wouldn't do it. when people asked for paid cosmetics they said they don't have the man power to make extra outfits alongside the free ones they already put out, which they dont want to stop doing.once they are finished with the backjlog of launch character love stories they may have the man power for it, but that's a huge maybe
On a scale from 1 to 10, how much fanservice is there in this game?
>>498661123pantyshots, feet, armpits, girls below the height of consent, breasts of all sizes, marriage, pregnancy. but it will depend from girl to girl
>>4986611236it has panty shots though which boosts it to an 8
>>4986611237
Undead loungePlease do not be noisy
>>498661503also korean bikinis despite what a certain autist will say
>>498662995why does Nini have a blue face and yellow legs
>>498663881That's her undergarments.
>>498663951ohcarry on then
I WILL fuck the dog.
>>498663748If you wanna bait schizos then just mention genshin being generous, there you go.
>>4986611239I love how Eileen distracts you with her sweaty cleavage and ultimately offers to be your "night se(x)cretary". 10/10, one of my favorite love stories.
>>498665556I really don't
>>498665162Two dogs to fuck.
>>498665162woof
>>498661503Got any examples of these?
>>498669610Unironic babymaking sex
>>498669610
>>498669610>>498671510Canon wife
>>498661123Most important thing to know before getting into the game is that a unit takes fourteen (14) dupes to reach an usable state (Origin) then 10 more to be fully maxed out (Origin +5)If that doesn't spook you then the game definitely has a ton of pandering and fanservice for sure
>>498674842This is the worst thing you could tell someone who isn't familiar with idle gacha progression.
>>498674842>trying to scare away new playersjust leave
>>498674842>>498675273>>498675274How many rolls do you get a month?
>>498675273It's the same baitfag from the last thread being so upset that everyone is hiding/ignoring his bait that he's now spreading misinformation and half truths to scare away new players.
>>498675452150-180 or so gem pulls, 500ish or more in friend pulls, ticket pulls, shards and so on. I'm going to do a more accurate spreadsheet for this soon.
>>498675273>>498675274It's the mihomofag, he's still seething about the last thread.
>>498675452"A fuckton" doesn't begin to cover how many roll we get.
>>498675452This is one of the most generous gacha games where it's extremely easy to get all of the event rewards and the difference between top scoring and bottom scoring isn't that significant so you don't need origin tier characters unless you're minimaxing for slightly more rewards in the end game.>>498675654Doesn't prydwen or whatever it's called have one of these?
>>498675917Not entirely convinced it's accurate or up to date, so I'd rather do my own checks and ask the thread to verify it. Their ballpark is somewhat similar to what I said.
>>498675513misinfo and useless half-triuths is this which is just "trust me bro">>498675864>>498675917Actually fucking useful replies that tackle the heart of the matter is>>498675654Then there's just the reeeeing that adds absolutely nothing like>>498675513>>498675837
>>498676014I think the local retards just lie in wait until there's a juicy post they can derail the thread with then cry and seethe until they get bored and wait again for the next chance
It's roughly 30k gems per month for F2P. You need roughly 60k to reach pity per banner, or 100k for ADC.Doesn't include blue tickets, red tickets, purple tickets, memory shards, friend rolls etc.
>>498674842>origin is the usable state for a new playerCertified retard.
I almost want the loli vs hag seething back if the alternative is a reddit spacing hoyoshill trying to shit on the game.
>>498676910Blue tix and friend rolls are pretty useless if you're aiming for an ADC unit unless you're a lottery winner. They should count but they're kinda irrelevant if you're aiming for a featured unit unless you're really lucky.Purple tickets are pretty rare but pretty useful, more so than the above imo.Red tickets are completely irrelevant because you're not rolling characters with those so they should not count towards a monthly roll count.
tits too big
>>498676812Pretty much. Thread's completely dead for hours then suddenly explosion of shitposting from retards then dead again.>>498677417>>498676990Can you like shut the fuck up and stop trying to start shit? cancerous fucking cunt
>>498677658ADCs aren't the only units in the game, even if they are the more desirably rare ones. Don't act as if ADC are the only relevant units at all.Friend points, ticket pulls and such are still extremely important to all accounts for progression, especially since the game's pull rates are just as high for those as well.
>>498683570XD
any other vore souls?
>>498675654This is a bit of a draft. Did I forget anything?https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mdb3j4C1Lwj86LGQZO_1exeozd_EqIak1Zwc0q1OyG4/edit?usp=sharing
>>498693782Cringezelotte, but she vores herself in other timelines.
>>498693784Isn't 162 kinda low when considering the amount required to Origin an ADC soul? Pretty relevant given that we just had CLinzy and are about to get Lize rerun and two collab chaos souls.
>>498695515Origining an ADC is a whale or hoarder thing because you're rolling far past your mileage to get it. 300 rolls is more than enough for most players to get you Et/Et+ and Origin them on a rerun.
>>498695771Exactly. Going past 300 rolls you either really love her or you're a whale.
>>498695771Not really feeling the 'most generous gacha' then if the play is to cope with Eternal, wait 6 mo+ for a rerun and Origin them and I mean this in the most civil way possible since some people get extremely defensive when touching this topic.Especially since Origin isn't even max and there's more ranks above that.Seems more in line with a game like E7 in terms of generosity with ADC being the equivalent of Moonlight charas.
>>498695515>Isn't 162 kinda low when considering the amount required to Origin an ADC soul?No. If you want heavily invested ADCs on day 1, save funds for them.>Pretty relevant given that we just had CLinzy and are about to get Lize rerun and two collab chaos souls.You get roadmaps in advance, prioritize. You can't max every single character right off the bat. Not in a gacha game, not as a F2P.
>>498696367The difference between ascensions is like 4-5% in stats and no functional advantage. It's nice to have of course, but do you really think it'll make such a huge difference when you need an extra 4 copies to make that ascension from Et+ to O? They'll work fine as is for most players unless you're a leaderboard chaser and it's an especially meta unit.On top of that, even if you had it at Origin you'd still be limited by sync level and other factors such as having enough ascensions on supporting characters to take maximum advantage of it.
5 minutes for CRINGE!
>>498696367>Not really feeling the 'most generous gacha' thenUnlike most other gachas you're actually getting usable souls as well, with the rare chance at angels and demons. You will naturally Origin+ non ADC over time without even rolling on their banners Also dupes here just gives you stat increases, whereas in most other gachas they lock important parts of your kit in high ascensions. Yes there are more generous gachas out there, but not many and not by much.
>>498696367>Not really feeling the 'most generous gacha' then if the play is to cope with Eternal, wait 6 mo+ for a rerun and Origin themYou can always get more copies with purple tickets if you really want. And the whole "only origin is usable" is kinda bullshit. Some souls will do their job just fine below origin. Some will die easily at O+2. Depends on their role, depends on the game mode.
>>498696367Hoyotard you are the only person in this thread who thinks you need to origin every soul on release. Eternal a/d/c souls are perfectly fine especially since that's what most people are going to be using even if you care about leaderboards for some reason despite the fact that you get most rewards from lower brackets.>>498697136>>498697165Hoyotard is a lost cause grasping at straws because he thinks hoyo is generous lmao
>>498697240you're the only person replying to a civil discussion with a spergoutconsider biting a bullet
>>498696943oh no, not the CRINGE
Reset Petra!(also me soon)
>>498695515>>498696367Origin is like 4% more stats than Eternal+ but costs way more copies. Literally double the copies in the case of non-ADC.Retards always scream about Origin as if you have 4% less stats suddenly your characters does zero damage and instantly dies the first second in combat.Origin is important for new players only because it removes the level-gating mechanic once you have five characters in your account who are Origin. The actual stats from reaching Origin are barely noticeable unless you're trying to metafag in the whale rankings.. In which case just Origin is a joke anyways. Origin+5 is also a joke unless it comes with an Origin Artifact. Even Origin+5 and Origin Artifact are still a joke unless you're level 550+ though. Eternal+ is usually the big milestone for stats. Ascensions are all very similar in how much they benefit you.1 Copy to actually own the unit1 more dupe gets you two ascensions to Legendary+ 2 more dupes gets you two more ascensions to Eternal+Then you need four (4) dupes to get a single ascension. So unironically 1/4 of the value of going from Legendary+ - > Eternal+
>Ruthra comingPeople about to see how broken Lilith is. Maybe hold off on that Liz banner unless you're dick pulling.
>>498697320You ignored what everyone told you last thread and tried to scare new players away telling them they needed tons of dupes. You're feigning ignorance but you know exactly what you're doing because you got btfo'd last thread and most people weren't biting your bait until you tried to scare the newbie away.
>>498696805>>498696753In my opinion, I strongly believe that if a game has a tier of characters reserved for "whales and hoarders" then that game should be disqualified from the generous tag.That doesn't mean it's bad or stingy, I just believe that's an outdated system in today's mobile games which is why I used the comparison with Epic7 where there's normal RGB characters and Moonlight characters. E7's been getting more generous lately so getting moonlights as a F2P has become more accessible but they're still pretty rough to get.Usually the market standard for these games is typically to use the 'limit break' system where you obtain a perfectly usable character out of the box but you can get 5-6 dupes for improvements on the character where the magnitude of said improvements depends on the game. Personally, my favorite is the 'shard system' because it allows a player to farm the shards for a character and is used in games like Neural Cloud, Sword of Convallaria or Princess Connect for a few examples.
>>498697165>Some souls will do their job just fine below origin.When you're dealing with high level raids, or late game BF or Depths souls even at Origin are a liability and you're going to have to give them defensive keepsakes in some cases for them to survive. When people say Origin bare minimum they're talking about endgame shit that is balanced to still challenge you even with Origin+5 souls.
>>498697320Just ignore the schizo, please. Last thing we need is another 100+ post spergout about hoyo.
>>498697674I'd argue you'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that people hoard in this games not because the other characters are worse and are willing not getting them even if they want to because they need to save for the other units; but because it's literally a waste to roll for other characters when you will literally max them off-banner. Every single oldfag's account here is filled with literally maxed out characters from dozens of banners they never rolled on; or rolled literally a single copy of just to make sure they had them right away.And then had extra copies they rolled off-banner anyways that they either deleted or are collecting dust because the character was already maxed out. Without rolling for them.
>>498697674>In my opinion, I strongly believe that if a game has a tier of characters reserved for "whales and hoarders" then that game should be disqualified from the generous tag.Your opinion is noted and disregarded. Gachas are going to have a premium tier of units that are rarer and stronger than the rest.
>>498697428This is entirely correct. Stats are nice, but less impactful than people think unless your entire account is built for optimized metagame. You need ascended supporting units, you need artifact ascensions, you need keepsakes, you need potentials. All of that can be an equal or bigger impact than than some % stats.>>498697674But the whole point of our posts is that you can get a functional unit for most content even as a F2P that only rolls 300 pulls on ADC banners and not miss out on anything. The whale-exclusivity of characters is variable and reflected only in the most endgame of leaderboard chasers. All of the content in this game is pretty much on a difficulty scale so you're not gated to have a specific power level for anything in particular.
>>498696367>Not really feeling the 'most generous gacha' then if the play is to cope with EternalThen save and only roll on angel, demon and chaotic banners. Since this game throws rolls at you constantly you are going to max out humanlike/undead/beast/fairy souls if you play long enough. Hell, all rolling for them does is hasten how quickly you start releasing unneeded dupes or using them as fodder.
>>498698058Yeah, I didn't say it's stingy or unplayable. It's just less generous than more modern gacha systems such as limit break or shard based systems. I simply believe it feels worse because the gap between a whale and a F2P player is larger and the distance feels impossible to cover.Eventually, a player will have every character maxed out with time but I'd argue that it's the same deal for other games too that are F2P friendly since a long time player that actually dedicates time to growing his account will be able to have a great deal of characters maxed out. And if you can't, then that game is simply not worth playing but that sort of game tends to not get popular or take off these days.
Cute dork!
>>498697674>In my opinion, I strongly believe that if a game has a tier of characters reserved for "whales and hoarders" then that game should be disqualified from the generous tag.I definitely can live without Claudia, Larimar and Lizelotte, I regularly dump 300 rolls on HBFU souls I like and the game regularly gives me epic characters. The only souls I prepared for extra carefully were Rad Cath and Titty Linzy, and that's only because I like them. Collabshit is "chaos" only on paper. Does the game feel generous to me? Yes. It throws gacha tickets at me. It gives me tons of premium currency. It lets me get at least 1 copy of every new character. It regularly lets me get copies of epic characters, including angels and demons (althought less frequently than HBFUs). High ranks in PvP/raids give mostly shiniest for your profile. Low ranks get most resources anyway.I played BA, Genshin, PGR, Snowbreak and probably few other gachas I don't even remember anymore. Eversoul is the most generous of the bunch, that's for sure.
>>498698665I'd argue it looks stingier but is actually less stingy. How long does it take to max rarity for a single character in those games from the free method? Literally months and that's usually for 1-2 characters at a time.Here you're not given an "you need to farm this for 150 days to max her rarity" but are instead just given a fuckton of random off-banners anytime you roll due tot he ratse + how many standard tickets they give to you. It's completely random and you have no idea when the character will be maxed out and you can in theory just got fucked by RNG on a very specific character, but you're maxing everyone at once.I have everyone in the game other than the three latest girls at Eternal+ and I've only getting a single copy on their banner for the sake of collection. I could have not rolled a single roll on their banner and they'd probably all or almost all still be at Eternal+ just from random off-banners.
>>498698665I'd argue Sync has a MUCH bigger impact on power and not being able to catch up. I might have an O+2 cLinzy but I'm still not gonna be able to do more than a couple of billion on Pluto without everyone dying because of my lower account investment in general, particularly sync whereas endgame gigawhales can do 25 billion.Trying to argue numbers clinically in a vacuum is just kind of silly, especially since the games you pointed out have different supporting gacha mechanics and rates. You'd need to take into account not just rate of income but also pull rates, banner mechanics (such as pity, mileage or sparks), additional banners or gem sinks, importance of dupes, release schedule, relative power creep, alternative ascension methods and so on and so forth if you want to have an even vaguely fair discussion and every time the topic gets brought up people will always omit the less savory parts about the games they like.
>>498699091>I played BA, Genshin, PGR, Snowbreak and probably few other gachas I don't even remember anymore.Discussing the generosity of other gachas is a dead end in terms of discussion because people don't want to hear good things about other games and tend to get extremely defensive and tribalistic the moment someone proves that other gachas have fairly generous systems too.>>498699304>How long does it take to max rarity for a single character in those games from the free method?Depends on game. And like I said above, going through the systems of each game would just cause people to get extremely defensive and tribalistic but usually it's set up in a way where dupes aren't needed but the base copy costs around 200~ rolls to hard pity or dupes are needed but you can farm them via different systems.
>>498699532>and so on and so forth if you want to have an even vaguely fair discussion and every time the topic gets brought up people will always omit the less savory parts about the games they like.This is why an objective discussion about a game is nice to actually analyze the game and discuss how generous it actually is. People in every /vg/ general will always refer to their game as the most generous gacha and dismiss other gachas as terrible stingy games because they couldn't get into them.This never helps anyone and doesn't answer the question of whether a game is generous or not. All it does is create a circlejerk and reinforce the tribalism of my tribe is the best and all others are the enemy.
>>498699971>People in every /vg/ general will always refer to their game as the most generous gacha This is just false, with the exception of AL every gacha I have played has poorfags complaining. Now it starts in this one too.
>>498700224Awful posts like these are precisely the problem
>>498700224he is on a crusade, he's not going to stop until people admit eversoul is a whale game
>>498699971I agree, but when I call Eversoul generous I try to take into account most of that.I can't think of any other gacha I've played where in less than a year I had literally every unit in the game and most of the meta units well invested enough as a F2P (even if not maxxed). I don't go hard on leaderboard content but I can get above average rewards even with lazy clears. I don't feel pressured to roll for a specific character I didn't already want and the game gives me enough gems to do that comfortably and still have enough left over to dickpull so I'd consider it better than many other gachas I've played in that regard.
>>498700224>>498700476If you can't stay civil then do you mind not posting for a bit? Adults are trying to have a discussion here
>>498698665This isn't a leaderboard game though especially because you don't rely on rankings or pvp to earn most of your rolls. It's an idle game where your units become more powerful over time and the content scales with it. If you compare this to other games like BA and Snowbreak you won't be able to even use all the units as a F2P unless you've been playing for a years if it all. I think you severely overstimate how many gacha players are obsessed with minmaxing values over having all the characters.>>498699679>Fairly generousIt's also worth noting exactly how you earn these "free" rewards because some games expect you to compete in pvp or some shit like I've heard PCR does. I still hold that Genshin isn't generous if you get one character every 3 months especially if you're a new player partially because I believe it's important to consider the new player experience and one time rewards. I'm sure there's some one time permanent rewards for new players for each chapter that releases but as far as I know it's easier for them to fall behind. On Eversoul I've been playing for I think about 4-5 months and I have at least one of each girl, tons of copies and some Eternal or Eternal+ a/d/cs. I doubt hoyo or wuwa is as good for catching up or feeling like you're making progress but maybe you'd know more about that experience.>>498700476Makes me wonder if he's upset about the O5 costumes
>>498699679>Discussing the generosity of other gachas is a dead end in terms of discussion because people don't want to hear good things about other games and tend to get extremely defensive and tribalistic the moment someone proves that other gachas have fairly generous systems too.I could list things I like in every single gacha I mentioned (except Genshin) and it wouldn't change my initial claim.
>day 8>(barely) box 9>1 daily ticketI'm on a streak of Ls these last few events.
>>498701804Stop your bitching. You're still above average luck
>>498700631>like I've heardThis is precisely the problem though. A lot of players get their information from hearsay, random shitposts or angry idiots like the above clowns trying to derail the discussion into a tribalistic shitfling. And since they don't precisely care about the truth, they just repeat what they heard and shit on every other game while defending theirs, thus continuing the cycle of tribalistic gacha wars.Only way to actually find out the truth is deciding months later that you're actually kinda interested in that one game you once shat on and discovered it's actually not that bad.>>498700516>I can't think of any other gacha I've played where in less than a year I had literally every unit in the game and most of the meta units well invested enough as a F2PI can definitely think of more than a few, gacha games these days have come a long way from ten years ago where we'd be playing crap like Chain Chronicles and carefully saving for months for certain characters because they were regarded as the most important and skipping everything else.But other gachas are a tangent I don't want to get into since the discussion seems to be derailing into arguing about how other gachas do things and Eversoul vs other gachas. The main point of discussion was how generous the game is and I think that was already discussed enough with everyone making their points.In regards to Eversoul, I think the game is fairly generous in case anyone was thinking only in extremes and decided I thought the game isn't generous. "Most generous" is a longshot since the ADC system entirely disqualifies it in my opinion but it's still fairly generous in terms of obtaining units. The Level Sync is definitely more of a pain point than meta characters for someone trying to catch up or get stronger since the only way to raise your cap is to get more Origin characters and the only way to get more origin characters is to either play for a long time or make very loud whale sounds.
>>498702037I won't retread ground here, but when I say sync I don't mean the sync limit restricted by Origin souls but rather just the slow time investment required to get there due to passive resource income to actually level the Souls. I've got almost 90 levels above my sync in terms of limit, and I'll likely never be gated by that until EOS because of how many Soul copies you get for free.
>>498702297Yeah, I meant to agree with that. It takes a lot of resources and time to get your characters to your sync cap and it also takes both to raise it so it's way more of a pain point and far more of a problem for your performance in various contents than missing a meta character or three.
>>498702037The thing is that you're NEVER hitting your level cap unless you're whaling already (post-Origin, I could see people getting stuck on Origin if they're really unlucky).
>>498702641This. It's never going to be a bottleneck for a new player past the Origin wall (which nowadays I've seen people get through in a matter of weeks) and the only people who hit the cap are really really old players and whales.The closest thing I could compare this to is Nikke which has the same sort of progression and getting unwalled there can take multiple months and is highly luck or whaling dependent.
Hey /esg/, I finally have almost all artifacts to Leg+. What should I start looking for when it comes to Origin ones outside of my soulwife?
>>498704157whoever does the most damage for you
>>498704157Ayame because she has the best jugs
>>498704157https://youtu.be/kZwrqZLLqyU
>>498704657That's very timely, cheers!
Rolled for Lize and I'm in pain. How many rolls can I expect to get from anniversary freebies?
>>498705558Not enough, they need to be more generous
the rates in this game suck horse dickgenerous my fucking arse
i'm filtering generous right next to nuance and nuanse
whats the point of filtering when you're going to open the stub and seethe about it anyway
>>498708579I never open the stubsSometimes days only posts I see is good night jammies and good morning jammies
good morning /esg/>day 8>box 10>500 gems spent>2 sold-out boxes>2x 40 arti tixalso got blessed with Liz rerun, got the 6 dupes I needed to O5 in 160 pulls
>>498708719that's it, I'm filtering jammiesgoodbye /esg/, I will never see your posts again
>>498709096good morning jammie>>498709420goodbye jammie
I'm tired of those cats, they are pretty boring content.Really wish they would do more dungeon content, that labyrinth they did to shill Edith was pretty fun and I wish they would do more stuff like that.
>>498709682I wish the cats gave me a red dot before they were full. I forget about them and sit at full for half the day every 3 days.
>498708479rates still suck dicklize banner is cursed
I was gone for 3 days in the hospitalWhat has happened in my absence?
>>498720634Liz banner
>>498726595My wife! I want to feed her candies while she sits in my lap
heheh you know what I wasn't reading anything that mihomo fag wrote, I spent all my gems on cLinzy, Aki, Daphne, Sogrod... then I spent all my gems and some on Lilith, got her to O5+ and was at 0, and guess what? I already have 11k gems again, and 47 blue tickets.this game IS fucking generous with gems and you absolutely can origin your souls fast on each banner!
wtf I jsut O5'd lilith and lizelotte in 300 rolls!!!! eversoul is so much better than genshin!!!!!
>>498733629keep seething but do it in your own cesspool thread :3
>>498733772fuck off mihomo cuckyou'll never have half the soul everSOUL has
>>498733987??? anon I am attaking the mihomo cuck, I am on our side
>>498734395>ourfuck off back to hsrgyou'll never be one of us retarded mihomo
>>498734449what the fuck are you rambling about, I am on eversoul side, I am attacking the mihomo fag who was trying to sarcasticly mock, I hate genshin
>>498734842you'll never be one of us falseflagging hoyotardgo back
>No posts in 2 hours>Suddenly a bunch of posts>It's just two retards sperging out over hoyo out of fucking nowhere
>>498734931>>498735112I'm pretty sure the real hoyo guy is asleep right now so you might be attacking a confused new guy>>498734842Generally speaking we want to ignore and avoid talking to people like the hoyo guy especially when we've already said our piece so mentioning him hours after he seemingly left or fell asleep is something you should avoid
>>498735448There's no "hoyo guy" you massive fucking sperglord. You can clearly see the massive gap in posts before you started having your schizophrenic attack out of nowhere completely unprompted. Take your fucking meds already and hopefully overdose on them so we can have some comfy threads again without your dumb ass having random meltdowns out of nowhere.
Hoyocuck melty
>>498736426Lurk more. The guy from last thread who started the entire "eversoul isn't generous" and "you need to origin for units to be playable" memes is the hoyotard who tried to argue that mihoyo is "fairly generous". He tried to bring the conversation into this thread and we ignored him up until he tried to scare away a new player with his lies. Anybody with pattern recognition knows that it's one guy who thinks those things although some people are misidentifying him.
>>498735448>>498737142yeah and I just backread the threads because I literally woke up and I wanted to say that our game IS in fact generous to not scare away newcuties, sorry if that came off wrong
>>498737423No problem. I was ignoring him up until that point too.
>>498709682the cats couldn't be more PLEASE ROLL ON CURRENT BANNER if they tried
>>498741389You can replace Lilith with Aki, Hazel or Naomi. Eileen would probably work too.
>>498741389I don't even read the modifiers and use the same team every time kek
did they nerf clinzy? why is she so garbage on ruthra... I should have saved for lilith instead
hehe I love Soonie what about you?
>>498753441We all love Soonie here.
>>498753932Soonie's ears get me hard
5 copies of Lize in 300, that's 10 more with mileage, yay!Got her from Et+ to O4, once again Beleth proves to be the best operator for pulls.
>>498756151
>had to go all the way to the guarantee on Erika's bannerfinally, Larimar
I think I pulled about average for the banner but I got 3 of my Liz in one 10 pull and I think one more total. Managed to get her from epic (free battle pass one) to eternal+
You guys disgust me sometimes.
>>498767190sleep tight Jammie
Good afternoon, /esg/I hope your Liz rolls went better than mine.
>>498774141No they were notA pox upon kim jong un
Anything that you desireSet it on fire!
>>498782157I'm gonna put her tits on fire with my cock.
>>498782157I want her to sit on my face while I fondle her tail.
remember to hit the boss, losing to jammies is shameful
remember to hit the boss, beating pits is mandatory
I will once again wait until the last second to lock in my real attempt and forget to do it
>>498786517>>498787917i call my penis the boss. hitting it 4 times daily.
>>498788725>only 4
>>498794602You need to give it time to rest
>>498794602
undead _ _ _
>>498796560assundead buttskissing undead girlssex with mentally unstable blue women
>>498796849Prim should've been humanlike.She's too normal to be undead. Same goes for Erusha.
>>498797061Now just watch Erusha have the most fucked up love story of them all.
>>498797061>Prim should've been humanlike.But she died doing circus shit, that's why she's an undead now.That's my headcanon anyway
>>498797061I think she was originally blue to show that she's actually undead but then they injected her with the white gene for some reason
>>498798278Koreans complained that undead souls had unnatural skin tones, so they were changed
>>498798278I know 9ark whitewashed early undeads (Erusha is actually better as a delicious brown and Prim is always cute), but I meant mentally. Undead souls have their ANIMA fucked up in some way, resulting in major instabilities (see: Garnet, Otoha).
>>498798436Gooks are cocksucking niggers, I swear to god.I wish there was something to tell Undeads apart from Humanlikes. Nowadays both of them look basically the same.
>>498798672>undeadssexy>humanscute
>>498798602>>498798672Calling them Unstables don't quite have the same ring to it.
>>498798829Prim is both cute and sexy. She's for mating press and headpats.
>>498798436They have no taste but I'm not surprised it doesn't have broader normie appeal.>>498798602>major instabilitiesI noticed most mentally unstable girls tend to be in that category but quite a few of them seem normal to me.
>>498799893>>498798602It's explained in Otoha's that she was humanlike but after her anima become unstable her body temperature dropped and heart beat slowed, reclassifying her as Undead.I guess for some Undead like Prim the instability is not so obvious and can seem normal.
>>498799335arent they called immortals for koreans? which makes even less sense
Rentry has some funny new formatting options. I spared it of the Soonie dance wave but did update a little of the formatting.
>>498807495where'd you get a screenshot of jammies chat
>>498808207Jamming every day!!!
Wish the game was bigger so I wouldn't feel reluctant to spend money on it
>>498809269Spend money on the game so it gets bigger.
>>498809269They've said they're good on money many times, they aren't even looking for a new publisher now that Kakao is going down in flames. They're also recruiting for a new sci-fi gacha which means they're making good profit.
>>498809269if they were in any threat of eos they wouldn't be giving us a skip quarter
>>498796560She will always have blue skin for me
>>498807495Damn this is a real Jammies moment
So has Lilith dethroned Edith? Anyone see any big numbers?
>>498819579nothing as impressive as pluto. edith is still used but in an onyx teamhttps://arca.live/b/eversoul/118996385?p=1
>>498819879She can't be stopped.
>>498819879She's not fun on this fight, her dot never seems to line up with the stun and ultimate. Got to reset over and over like an autist if you want good numbers.
>>498822256I meant Larry >>498820967
>try to look up a character's skirt>mihomo style vanishing actbros...
>>498823785>mihomo mentionI can hear the schizo angrily typing a melty about hoyo right now
>>498823785It would have raised the game's rating so they chose to do that instead.
>>498823785gotta find the right angle
>>498823920This. It's like a minigame you must try to defeat.
Remember when we almost lost Miriam's upskirt until people rioted and they put it back? That was almost a shit show.
>>498824220Best reason to use her in fights.
>>498824220I was pissed, they almost snowbreaked us
(Late) Reset Beleth here to bless your pulls!
>>498824220And now we got this
>>498824220I remember this
>>498825027Thank god we'll never be like those cucks because our devs are based
>>498825486>>498672235Why do they keep shoving her panties in our face?
good morning /esg/>day 9>box 12>750 gems spent>2 sold-out boxes>3x 40 arti tix
>>498823920>>498824094Action Taimanin is PG 13 unironically. There's no world in which they have to do this unless they want to.
>>498828292That was the excuse given. If so then I guess they lied to us when they could have easily told the truth.
Sync 300! Feels like it took forever to get here.
>>498826448good morning jammie>>498829217good job jammie
>>498823785Is it even censorship? from what I noticed the they only start vanishing when you get so close that the camera enters the modelFeel like it's just a way to keep us from seeing blackholes and floating eyeballs.
I think I'm just too weak to beat a level 600 cat.No idea if being level 436 is too low, if my keepsakes are too trash or having everyone's artifact at legendary+ is not enough but I just don't have enough time even while following the rules.It takes about 30 seconds to start dealing damage, 45 more to bring it to half and the last 15 seconds are only enough to drop it down to around 30%
>>498832157You need Larimar, Garnet and Mephi. If you have those 3 you can do it. The other 2 slots are a healer then a human dps, Aki/Hazel/Naomi/Lilith/Eileen work.
>>498832157https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiAxP0uvLiI
Day 8Box 14
>>498832751>>498832592Try that team using O5 Aki, Hazel, Eileen and Naomi just to all failTried with legendary Lilith once and it kills, I also realised after the fact that my Lilith had no keepsakes or her artifact equipped.That was not even funny
Day 8Box 151 Daily refresh
>>498833694>>498838045>Day 8>Box 9>1 dailyI hate you.
>day 8>box 13>8x650 gems spent
Will mephi ever get better
>>498836530>>498741389It's a little more on the nose this time. Yet they still failed to make Lilith mandatory because Larimar exists.
Do I want to make a STR/HP set or STR/SPD for my tank
>>498842371Depends on your tank. Daphne wants 4speed, Claire wants 4Def, 4Eva or 4HP, Lute wants 4Def, etc.
>>498843008Guess I'll get daphne's first then ClaireCan Chloe and Claire share the same set?
>>498843090One thing to keep in mindEva is usually the best defensive set but it's pretty luck dependent.It can let you beat some things you couldn't otherwise but it will lead you to reset a lot until the rng works in your favor.If you hate that just go for hp or def.
>>498843090>Can Chloe and Claire share the same set?Yes, but keep in mind that both are excellent tanks so there's a high chance you'll use both in different teams (3-team battlefronts, ESS, gate depths). You'll need two sets for that.
So what's the proper "auto" meta for Ruthra?
>>498842371str/hp
>>498859008you can't auto ruthra because it requires you to stun the wind up. if you want teams there are some here >>498819879
>>498872549You can, but you'll either die or have a dogshit score. At which point the team doesn't really matter.
>>498872809>you'll either die or have a dogshit scoresounds like my manual teams...
>>498819879>no lizwhy did I roll?
>>498874680She is still good on Ruthra, if there was a 4th team it would be hers.
>Manon spazzing out as I mass buy the gift capules in the shopShe's so happy
>>498874680Why, because she makes your dick hard. You're not a filthy metafag who rolled because someone told you she's strong, right?
>>498877037Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo!Woo-hoo!
>>498877037Buy it all savior!
>>498874680Because she's cringe and that's based
Jade > Manon >>> Rat Jew
Always feed your chuuni souls!>>498888029Night jammie!
>>498888029sleep tight jammie
>Meet the strongest dps on Ruthra
>>498907285>tfw you skipped Dominique
>>498569447>skip lilith>skip whori>skip collabshitHope they release another adc soon. I've already hit my max level and now I'm stuck at 520
>>498910736maybe if you didn't skip everyone you wouldn't get walled
>>498908315At least you didn't skip CLinzy. I hope no one here was dumb enough to do that
>>498915091>only meta on one fightI wish I were dumb.
>>498915091I will never roll for alters
>>498915091I will always roll for alters
>>498915091I will sometimes roll for alters
>>498915091I will roll for alters if make peepee hard
>>498915091I will roll for meta alters
>>498915091No love story = skip
>>498915091No pregnancy = skip
>>498915091No cunny = skip
>>498915091I will roll for Mephi alters
>>498917887Correct answer
I'm still annoyed that they're adding love storyless alters to the general pool. They need to keep that shit limited so it doesn't brick my free rolls.
>>498918985sakuyo already has a pretty good love story though. you want to fall in love twice?
>>498918985You're already plowing them by the end of their normal love storyWhat would the second love story be, 6 episodes of hardcore sex?
>>498919341>>498920573How are Variant soul stories going to work? We know that for Chaos souls it's their main story version in the soul story while it's one of their alternate universe versions in the love story, so will that be true for Sakuyo, whom I can't remember Savior has even met yet in the main story.
>>498919341>you want to fall in love twice?Sure why not lol but either way if she's without a love story I don't see why she wouldn't be limited. I know some stories suck enough that they're basically already alters but there's no need to dilute it further.>>498920573I mean it could extend the true end or maybe focus on dates maybe? As far as I'm aware alters don't have you be in a relationship with them based on their ending. Either way if they can't think of anything they could simply make her limited so I can dodge her like everyone else. The fact she isn't limited makes me feel like they're planning on adding even more alters in the future.
>>498921462They might, but Sakuyo could be an exception since she was highly requested. Hopefully it will make sense for them to do a variant and not just start making shit up like "Confident Erika" or "Mephi with shoes on"
>>498921742>mephi without bare feethard pass
>>498921742Mephi with four bare legs for extra feet and all-terrain support.
>>498921742I imagine it's probably cheaper and easier for them to make alts instead of new girls so I wonder if they'll ever go down that route>Mephi with shoes onBased>Confident Erikakek
I really hope they buff the collab units and make them overpowered or at least strong sidegrades to top units
>>498924779I don't think they will because they want to maintain a good standing with the playerbase. Collabs being meta would upset people.
>>498925346Collabs being trash is shit too. Not saying to make them meta must haves or bricked if you don't have but make them just sidegrades to current strong shit so they're strong, usable and worth rolling for but can just use something else if you don't have them.
>>498924779Buffing them would piss off Japanese players who might have skipped because they're not that strong.
>>498925928JP's a good while behind tho, they literally can just buff them for a rerun if they buff them for global.
Been casually rerolling a few accounts recently and holy fuck the rates for this game are so bad
>>498925474Well fair enough but if you look at Larimar you'll realise the devs have no fucking clue how to balance the game that specifically>>498927507>rerolling>in eversoulWhat?
>>498921462Yes and no. Since Love Stories were originally designed around being parallel worlds that have no impact on the main story.But then they retconned that, and Chaos Souls so far have been from the main story with main story relationship status; but starting to gain memories from their Love Story..Sakuyo though unlike Catherine and Linzy is irrelevant to the main story in the first place and as such has no relationship with (You) to begin with other than the one in her Love Story, which was originally supposed to be a random parallel world but not be anymore due to the shift in story.>>498927507>Rerolling in a game where f2p get max dupes of literally everyone in the longtermRetardbro...>rates for this game are so bad>in a game where the rates are quite literally QUADRUPLE the rates of games that people try to shill as generous>Where the rates of the dogshit joke friendship rolls would make people playing other games seethe and wish their gacha had those rates because even the friendship rolls have higher rates than their premium gacha
>>498929985>>498927869why does every gacha have autists that freak out whenever someone mentions rerolling? its a one time chance to get a good start, you bet your ass i'm going to take it
>>498930175Because this game is generous unlike stingy gachas that basically require rerolling plus the first 10 pull is infinitely rerollable so you can choose whoever you want your first girl to be. I'd argue time spent rerolling instead of progressing your account might actually make you lose rolls in the long run because account progression matters early on to earn rewards.
>>498930175nta, but that makes sense in other gachas where you get one chance to roll a good unit that will carry you through half the content and it might be months before you can guarantee a pity/spark. The benefit here seems kinda minuscule, especially with just one copy.That said, if you're unironically trying to get a specific angel/demon out of rerolling then you are retarded, the rate is like 0.015%.
>>498930497If I had a penny for every time some gachafag calls his game the most generous game ever then I'd be rich enough to retire young>>498930574Trying to reroll for an account that gets to Eternal lize with the 180 or so rolls given. If I can't then i'll either give up on the game or wait for the collab chars, idk whatever I feel like at the moment.
>>498930175Because this is an idle game and what you're getting fucked by isn't getting 1 or 2 more characters than someone else, it's putting off starting because you're getting fucked on resources to actually raise characters.The entire monetization structure of idle games is that starting with anything extra doesn't really help, because you need a lot of dupes. And needing a lot of dupes is okay because they give you like 1000 rolls a month (of different worth depending on the top of roll) and the rates on every single one of those rolls is like 2-4x the rates on most other games. Image if some other gacha you played decided they were going to keep the same rates but start giving people literally 2000-4000 rolls a month for free. You WILL have the characters. Having the characters isn't what's going to keep you back.Normally you reroll because if you don't get anything good in your first 100 rolls, that's all your starter + early progression rolls and you're fucked because it will take literal weeks to get another 100 rolls and now roster is dogshit.
>>498930787Okay, that makes more sense and I can kinda justify it a little more. I already forgot Lize banner was up.
>>498930882>The entire monetization structure of idle games is that starting with anything extra doesn't really help, because you need a lot of dupes. And needing a lot of dupes is okay because they give you like 1000 rolls a monthuh you might want to take out a zerosome anon already did the math and it's closer to 150. 210 if you're a top tier metafag that ranks top 10 everywhere.
>he's back againtime to close the thread for a while
>>498931154make a twitter for your shitty blog, /esg/ isn't it.
>>498931154Why not leave for good you whiny faggot?
>>498931035nta, don't treat non-gem pulls as worthless since they have the same rates as gem pulls and are how you get the vast bulk of your units for free. You easily have 500+ of those per month between blue tix, friend pulls, shards and similar.
>>498931035Those are in pure gem rolls (which as I mentioned have about 4x the rates as almost every single non-Idle game, so in actual practice around 600).Which deosn't include that you're getting literally ~300 friendship pulls a month guaranteed which are double the rates of most non-Idle gacha games. It doesn't include Blue Ticket rolls which you get a lot of from all over the place, and some singular events randomly give literally ~60 of, which are not only 4x the rates but have a pity counter of 30 single rolls.
>>498931514>>498931561Standard rolls are never counted in roll calculation though. Most people want to save towards characters they want, not receive random characters slowly that may or may not be what they wanted or needed.And I don't even want to argue about generosity, just saying that "1000 monthly rolls" is way off the mark because not even top rankers get that much.
>>498932062Standard rolls aren't counted that often because a certain game started the trend of making literally every single character in the game Limited besides the starters. So the standard pool in those games is worthless because it's the same useless powercrept characters you're getting as your off-banner failures in the Limited banner, except now they're the only thing in the pool.Here you can literally instantly pull the brand new character that was just released from it.
>>498932435>Here you can literally instantly pull the brand new character that was just released from it.Pretty sure anons sitting on like 300 tickets barely managed like 1 Lilith....
>>498932062standard rolls are very important for a new account. they only stop being useful after you are nearing O5 on everyone
>>498932598Yeah because the chances are split between all characters but the fact there's hardly any limited characters compared to Genshin Impact having all of them be limited means free rolls are relevant especially so for new players who don't have any characters so of course you'd count them.
>>498933039shut the fuck up about genshin holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7iyF4_Yop4
>>498934362Bryce sounds bored.
>>498933967Adults are having a conversation here. Please be quiet.
>>498934496It's just the emotionless loli archetype, exactly how I expected her to sound tbqh.
>>498934362I like Bryce's voice, Melfice should be brattier
>>498934362Would correct in all languages.
>>498934857Yeah, Melfice should be brattier and more smug personally. I like her voice but could be better.
>>498935164>>498934857https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YtHKQ30NggE She sounds better on this.
I want whori leaks
>>498942406that whori is going to be leaking cum once the entire forest is done with her
>>498942406I did check the files last maint and didn't find anything referencing her, sadge.
>>498942474Rude but not wrong
>>498942406I hope she's good. I like her design far better than the ugly beast we got last time, and I could use another healer/support
I want Q2 leaks.
So how's CLinzy performance in Ruthra? Is she still good or is she a brick
>>498944092she's not meta but you can still use her if you dont have an edith or sigrid
>>498944515>already 1 raid and she's not meta anymoreits over for brickzy
>>498944613I doubt anyone will replace her on pluto
>>498945673That's just one raid and she's easily replaceable everywhere else
Reset Lute!
>>498946442Halloween goat soon
Day 9Box 151 ticket/day
good morning /esg/>day 10>box 14>1000 gems spent>2 sold-out boxes>4x 40 arti tix
>>498948664mornin' jammie
>>498915091I will always roll for alters of my soulwife
Demon bitches love me
the account market for this game is so bad bros>INSANE ACCOUNT 74/74 SOULS>lv99>3 origin characters>zero everstones>hardstuck at BF16
>>498955694it's a small gameI doubt there are a lot of people looking to buy accounts for Eversoul
>>498956694Small game but the prices are anything but. The "insane account" I listed is $70 dollars for example.Managed to find a guy with updated accounts that have CLinzy but man wants a cool $65 for his starter account.
Claudia bday!
>>498956858Kinda wild. This is the last game I'd expect to have an account market.
>>498959294EVERY game has an account market without fail but the prices are usually set by the person trying to recoup losses. Especially in a game like this where there's barely any sellers, any rando can attempt to charge an exorbitant amount for it while bullshitting that it's an insane endgame account.Also, the idea of account buying is getting a better deal than official. If I can spend those $60 on the game's cash shop and get a way better deal and rewards without the risk of 3rd party sellers then your listing is absolute dogshit and has no reason to exist.
>>498958304Cumming on her forehead as a present
>>498958304Happy birthday to the best angel
Happy birthday
What tanks are worth investing into as a new player? I got Daphne, Bryce, Chloe, Lute, Petra and Adrianne. Getting fucked whenever I need two teams, Daphne can carry one team but for the second one I don't know who to level sync.
>>498976323Daphne is the best single tank right now, but if you can put Petra in front of 4 ranged souls then her self-buffs and sustain are great. Just don't let anyone jump on your back line, since Petra can't take damage for them like Daphne can.
>>498976821Thanks fren, I'll invest into Petra coin then.
>>498976821Petra works as long as no allies are near her. So if an enemy Adrianne pulls an ally near Petra your Petra becomes paper thin.
https://x.com/Eversoul_JP/status/1847563589470867465?t=evxdxi6btweaeCNFVC6vUw&s=19I can only hope the Japs fall in love with her and start making artwork
>>498989547You forgot one critical thing - Japan is the land of shit taste.
>>498990372This is true if you consider how popular domestic abuse "tsunderes" are over there. Probably makes sense if you consider their masochism.
>>498958304this hits different after reading her love story knowing she looks down on all the other souls for being so weak. it makes her hotter
>>498976323If you're new, you're probably gonna powerlevel through content with Aki and Daphne and then get to a point where the other tanks just explode instantly due to low investment, so none of them will be particularly viable until you get some ascensions, artifacts and sync on them, keep that in mind. It might be worth investing into a good STR HP set to try to cover that deficit but your mileage may vary. Also for two team stages you'll want a high level friend borrow to solo one team and you save Daphne for your own team.Chloe is very solid overall as a good second tank thanks to her shield/regen at low hp.The others covered Petra already, she can be a bit hard to use with most team comps but she shines when she does work and her Soul Extortion debuff can be very strong in some cases.Adrianne is pretty shit but being able to pull a backliner as her first action is very useful against Petra teams and some backline pests. She's more of a niche utility Soul rather than a good tank.Bryce works best with Melfice obviously, which limits the freedom of team comps but is good in Undead gates and similar content.Don't really have experience with Lute.Honorable mention - Linzy with an EVA set is extremely good at high deficit if you can stomach a little dodge malding.
https://x.com/kimcheolhui/status/1832321197847282058
>>499008904sleep tight jammer
>>498976323>>499000571>Don't really have experience with Lute.Lute is more of a tanky warrior than a typical tank. She can dish out crazy damage thanks to her unusual def scaling.
>>499010341I guess comparable in some ways to Aira? I don't have the fodder to really raise Lute to a functional level.
>>499011339Not that anon, but Lute is decent in raids since the extra buffs on her skills only function when your team outnumbers the enemy team, and her artifact grants the team a decent chunk of extra crit damage. She's basically just there to survive with her huge titsdefense and help the rest of the team perform better. I haven't tried it yet since I haven't invested as much into my Lute, but looking at her kit she might be great for Rudra autobattle autism. One of her subs stuns, and if there's 1 enemy then it shuts down her other sub while also increasing her subskill activation by 50%. So she'll basically be throwing out a stun every couple seconds, which might catch Rudra during its charge window. Might try her out in an Onyx team later.
>>499015064I see. How do you feel about her in PvE?
the newbie experience in this game is such dogshit
>>499015293If you mean battlefront and depths stages, I'd say she does worse. Her passives don't activate at the start of combat in equal 5v5s, so you only get her crit damage buff after you've already killed an enemy and made it 5v4. If you can assassinate one of their backliners, then she helps the team snowball, but at that point you might as well just use a better tank like Daphne, because Lute doesn't do much to help bounce back if your team falls behind in numbers. Even Adrianne can sometimes clutch it out with her little heal circle and defense self-buffs when she's surrounded, but with Lute if you look like you're losing, you probably will.tl;dr, Lute might not be a good beginner pick for main tank, but invest in her if you like her.
>>499017521Cheers, that's what I was mostly wondering, if it would make her worthwhile if you could proc her buff in 5v5s.
>>499017824I use Jacqueline a lot, personally, since her first action is always to jump onto an enemy backliner and enter stealth, so she and Lute might work well together in 5v5 fights.The game really doesn't require specific setups early on, though, so if you're still new then feel free to use her. Soulwives > metawives
>>499016758In what way? I'm genuinely confused why it's bad.
Tell me about this pirate.Why does she :3?
>>499021037Not him, but since they haven't added auto-progress in main battlefront yet; new player experience is>start up a battle in BF>go afk for a minute>start up a battle in BF>go afk for a minute>start up a battle in BF>go afk for a minute>start up a battle in BF>repeat until you finally reach a decent BF
>>499021037>I'm genuinely confused why it's bad.You should absolutely start an alt right now. Run an alt for a month or so and you'll have all the answers you need.
>>499021337you would rather just go afk for the entire thing?
>>499021431You won't get any sympathy from launch players, because you don't know how bad things truly were. New players got it easy.
>>499021431Maybe I will on my backup phone once Wehri is out.
>>499021337It's kind of ironic that the Aki + Daphne combo boosts your progression by an extreme degree, but it also makes it boring as hell until you get walled and then can't progress anymore because your other units are too shit in comparison.
>>499021337Is this not most gacha games that aren't action based? Everything early on is auto'd through because the devs are trying to boost you to more recent content.
>>499021873Just because it was worse doesn't mean the newbie experience still isn't bad
>>499021431I've been playing since just before the last anni event and I think it's fine.
>>499022331Anni is literally the best time to start though
>>499021431>You should start an alt and run it for a month to figure out why I'm complaining.How about no? If you have something to say then just fucking say it, I'm not gonna start an alt just because you can't figure out how to use your words.
starting any gacha in the second year isn't going to be a pleasant experience. that's 2 years of content to catch up on, just be glad it's not a story heavy gacha like others are
>>499022886Yeah starting a gacha late usually means you get the full shaft unless you start during specific windows with great events/units that make it easier
Didn't they give free Origin keepsakes to new players? Or was that only for anniversary.
>>499022427I think I joined a few weeks before the anni though when Dominique was fairly new. There's a lot of idling and autoing but that's pretty much what I expect from mobile games especially ones that have been out for a while. As long as you know the meta is to have one carry + daph you're good.>>499022886I would never play one of those gachas that don't rerun or archive their story events because I don't want to play without the full story even if it's just side events.>>499023121It's even worse when some gachas have meta units as limited especially if they're collab units.>>499023191I'm not sure but you can buy anni keepsakes from the store and I think the full set is like 3k primos which is worth it to help power through early content.
>>499023191Anni only, you gotta buy them as a newbie. Costs like 5000 everstones for both sets.
>>499023191Not free, but you can get the anniversary keepsakes for cheap in the store. You also get all the newbie catch-up rewards including a free OG Mephi and some selectors to make breaking the Origin wall easier.There are people who can reach BF24 in a few weeks if they know what they're doing so I can't say it's too difficult to catch up as a newbie, you'll still be waiting for sync mostly after that.
>>499023352>>499023121Starting during reruns or dead periods like right now is peak pain. Anyone wondering why the newbie experience is bad should make an alt right meow.
>>499024176Why would it matter if you've not seen the content before? Starting during a dead period would actually give you enough time to level your girls for when a new event starts to collect all the rewards.
>>499024585Also we have Liz and Lilith banners right now, both are incredibly strong.
>>499028429mephi can eat as many of my gems as she wants.
>>499021491As opposed to going afk every 1 minute interval for 8 hours when you also need to do this for all your towers?Yes, definitely.>>499022169Sort of, but have you looked at the sheer number of battles per individual BF? And considering that a new player is probably gonna have to rush like 10 BFs in a row very early on, and then like another 6 sets of BF very shortly after that. And then then main tower, and race tower. And then shortly after that they'll be ready for Tower of Origin and they have like 15 of those to catch up on.
>>499028987ToOs have autoclear at least. It would be nice if gates had it too admittedly. You only really need to rush them if you're trying to do a dual banner start (like 300 on Lize and Aki) though, I kinda ignored gates for months and didn't feel like I bricked myself.
>>499028987A newbie with a good team will do all that shitA newbie that got jackshit will get stuck early on and highly likely just quit while cursing the game
>>499029562>ToOs have autoclear at leastToOs have auto-proceed, you still have to leave your phone on.
>>499030135bro even some gachas that require you to grind missions 50 times don't have offline clearing, they aren't going to introduce it just for new players
>>499030590Labyrinth has skip, they could introduce that for the non-elite stages and just make them fight those.
>>499029827A newbie who has basic team composition will do all thatA newbie who just puts 5 randos on his team won't
>>499029827It's hard to get "jack" shit when you can infinitely reroll for daph and then use then invest in your best attacker and/or use the banner to pull for Aki or the latest demon.
>>499035362You're right, every newbie will have origin daph, aki and the latest demon on day1. How can anyone ever complain about the most generous gacha ever made?
>he's still seethingkek
>>499035591You only need Origin Aki and one copy of Daphne to push most PvE content. Both of these are trivial to get for anyone, especially with the free selectors, bro.
>>499035591>origin daph>origin demonWelcome back I thought we'd lost you maybe try playing the game before forming opinions on it though.
>>499036826what did he mean by this
>>499041980There's a new player that is having a rough time and keeps attacking the game causing long arguments.
>>499041980There's a dude who keeps insisting that you need origins for girls to be viable and insists the game isn't generous because of this as you can't origin every girl on release despite the fact that most girls work fine without origin and some work fine even at 1 copy such as Daph, Yuria etc.
>>499043580>insisting that you need origins for girls to be viableDon't you need 5 to break the 200 wall?
>>499043657You do, but that retard unironically insists that if you want to use someone, she MUST be at least Origin. Which is bullshit.
>>499043657You get origin mephi for free and I think 5 selector chests and tons of free pulls so it's not really an obstacle. By the time you get enough crystals to have everyone at 200 you'll have 5 characters at origin fairly easily or soon after. That being said that's not what he was talking about he was talking about individual unit viability and implying you need every girl to be origin for them to be viable which just plain isn't true.
>SSS in 3 pieces of content>Equal to Rad Cath>Only beaten by Yuria and LarimarWhy haven't you rolled yet? Time is running out.
>>499048707I'll origin her when I roll for the next ADC anyways
>>499048707Too busy feeding chuuni souls.
>>499049449Sigrid my beloved
>>499048707>Worst wife of all the operatorsThere's the reason.
>>499048707Because my dick says she's ugly, unlike Beleth who's the best operator there was, is and will be.
>>499051102what he said but Mephi
>>499044179>You get origin mephi for free and I think 5 selector chests and tons of free pulls so it's not really an obstacle. By the time you get enough crystals to have everyone at 200 you'll have 5 characters at origin fairly easily or soon after.man you people really are so out of touch
>>499054212Post your account with 5 level 200 characters who are level-gated by no Origins
>>499055272inb4 he replies to you with an account he bricked by being retarded and/or a newfag kek
>>499016758Maybe genshin is more up to your speed
>>499048707Why roll for a normal soul that I will get to O+5 eventually? By the way I already have two copies without rolling once on her banner.
insane how dead the game is but how bad the thread isyou'd think all the shitposters would be in faster threads instead of here
>>499058693shitposting is the only thing that keeps the thread alive
>>499058693it's a recent thingthis place was filled with handholding posting until a few weeks ago
>>499060704I love holding hands with jammies.
>>499060387You're not "keeping the thread alive", you're driving away anyone that would want to post here then you'll go shit up some other thread when you finally kill this thread or find some other fotm to shit up.
>>499060387posting long nini keeps the thread alive
>>499061424it's not me shitposting, things would be a lot worse if it was
>>499057435>eventuallyGuess anything between "several months" and "over a year" counts as "eventually". The standard pool is getting pretty bloated.
>>499061893I wanna smooch Nini
>>499061893>>499062008Oh nyo.
>>499062592why do they do this to long nini
Reset Flynn!
>>499062004Worse than bullying newbies and constant spergouts about random shit or gacha tribalism?
>>499066810I love Flynn!
>>499068129we've done priconne, BA and now the meta is sperging about genshinwonder what game is next
>>499068129infinite soonie pics
>>499069269Correcting someone who claimed Genshin is more generous is not sperging about Genshin.
>>499069360kill yourself thanks
>>499068129kinda shitty that we got retards trying to scare off newbies with these retarded arguments instead of helping them or guiding them
>>499071090They shouldn't come in here with a hostile attitude, then bitch when they get told something they dislike.
good morning /esg/>day 11>box 15>1250 gems spent>2 sold-out boxes>4x 40 arti tix
>>499071209>>499069421
>>499071090Polite newbies get plenty of help. But this new one is just an asshole who does nothing but complain and try to start shit.
>>499071807Start shit says the sperg that cant go a single day shitting itself over an argument days ago over hoyoshit while lashing out at everyone it sees.Seriously, fuck off and die.
>>499071807>Polite newbiesyou think every poster is going to come and kneel to you before asking for advice? if someone is frustrated at the game then the best thing to do is solve their issue or try to find some way to fix their problem so they aren't frustrated anymore instead of antagonizing them and driving them out of the thread with a grudge
I think everyone's acting retarded. Stop acting retarded.
>>499071807he will get bored rerolling trying to origin 5 souls and give up soon
>>499072850I don't remember anyone asking for your opinion.
>>499073062It was the voices. They're very polite when they're not screaming in my head.
>>499072794Maybe that's what the schizo wants. Send people off angry with the game so the thread gets filled with even more shitposting and the place is just arguing about nothing and pure seething over random shit like every other gacha thread.
Yeah, helping this guy stick around will really improve the thread.>>498707153
>>499073526aren't the rates 4%? isn't that on the high end for gachas?
>>499073526god I wish I could shoot your autistic ass and improve the thread and world at a largethat's most likely someone that got shafted on lize banner and complained about it like you'll find in every fucking thread not some boogeyman out to decry eversoul as the stingiest gacha ever made
>>499073793Internally it's a matter of account progression, externally it can't really be compared directly because this is a dupe-focused game which offsets the higher rates.
>>499074113dont cut yourself on that edge
>>499074410You can't really "farm" dupes or else the game would be infinitely better. You have to roll them and that's the part that filters most people out, telling someone that you need to roll 14 copies of a character to consider them "done" is an extremely hard sell to anyone who's played other gachas where all you need is get lucky with 1 copy.
>>499071214good morning jammie
>>499074618where are you getting 14 copies from?
>>499071214Morning jammie, you're very lucky!>>499075084His argument is that A/D/C need to be Origin to work and everything else stems from that.
>>499075271weird, new players really shouldn't be thinking about adc unless they want to use a wallet
>>499075552That's why it's a hard sell and it filters people out? Other gacha games don't have a distinction between units
>>499075671it's a stolen system from afk arena who probably stole it from someone else
>>499075552I think the one part of the argument that holds some water is that the numbers sound scary if you're someone who only ever played a "mainline" gacha where one copy of a unit is all you need since they literally wouldn't know or understand how dupe-based games work.That said I find it disingenuous to talk about the game starting from that without giving someone context, of course they'll freak out when they hear that A/D/C go up to 24 copies if they think about how long it takes to secure even one copy in a game like Genshin.
>>499073793>>499074214It's definitely on the very highest end of gacha, like literally top percentile.You can definitely compare it because anything older than a year for a f2p is literally Origin+5 unless it's an ADC (which depends on whether or not you're rolling on their rerun to fully max them out or just going "Origin or whatever is good enough and I'll get more when I get them, or from event freebies"), and probably anything older than like 6 months is Origin. You can pretty easily compare it to other games and ask whether a f2p is going to have everyone fully duped out, not "well if you wanted to max this character you like out (but you would have to skip this huge list of characters, and the other characters you have wouldn't be getting dupes)" or "if you chose to farm this character's fragment stage every day for the next six months you could (you would use up all your daily attempts so the other 95% of your roster isn't max-dupe, and they're gonna add like 20 new characters in that time that you can't max out so it's actually more like 98% of your roster won't be max-duped)"The unironic and actual thing locked behind whaling is unironically sync level for now because some whale's team of Epics at lvl 580 would still dumpster your Origin+5 team
>>499076072>It's definitely on the very highest end of gacha, like literally top percentile.In terms of rates? Absolutely. In terms of generosity? Mid/Bottom.
>>499076072You're right, but when I said you can't compare it directly I was strictly looking at % rates. It's a very vague metric without all the other factors you pointed out so saying 4% is BIG doesn't mean anything by itself.
>>499076210I have 65/75 Souls at O5 as F2P. But I've played since launch. I'd say it's pretty good for long term players.
>>499076386Because it's made for long term gameplay, it's just not made for short term players or newcomers.Try to put yourself in the shoes of a newbie trying to pick the game up and being told "Oh you should stay away from the best characters because you can't max them unless you whale". Or being told you need 5 Origin characters to not get walled at level 200.Or all the million newbie traps in the game.
>>499075931A lot of Eversoul is copied from AFK Arena. Luckily they didn't copy going over O5.
>>499076210As a monthly only buyer I have all but the most recent h/b/f/u souls at Origin 5, and half of the ADC at Origin 5. If this is only Mid/Bottom generous I want to see an example of a very generous gacha
>>499075990coming into an idle gacha and expecting a normal gacha experience is probably what is causing the anger
>>499076210So how many other gacha games let you fully dupe everyone as a f2p? And again no I don't mean "Well there's this stage you can farm character fragments on, and if you only farm this specific character every day for 6 months that one character will be max duped">>499076603That's literally every gacha game. Oh, only heard about this game because of the big event and are starting now after a year? Well you missed a literal entire year of event rewards, an entire year of stamina, an entire year of daily resources. The entire monetization structure of gacha games (and live service in general) is that anyone who's starting late is already getting fucked, and getting progressively more fucked the longer they wait before starting the game.
>>499076940There was someone upset last thread at being told to wait so they could build up 3 teams to continue progression. Idle is kind of in the name.
>>499077021>That's literally every gacha game.If this game was like "Every other gacha game" then the playerbase wouldn't be in the four digits. It's time to look at the objective facts, not get defensive.
>>499077169see this is why people want to drive you from the thread
>>499077169Those are the objective facts you fucking retard. You're bitching about something that virtually every other gachas also do, and in most cases far worse than Eversoul. Why do you insist on coming in here and shitting up the thread?
>>499077169So uh, are you actually going to actual defend your claim at all or are you just going to go "W-W-W-W-ell your game is going to EOS"
>>499077169bwo you weren't supposed to point that out....
>>499077169This just feels like bait at this point. A gacha game's popularity is affected by a myriad of factors, and there are far more impactful ones in play here such as the utter lack of marketing and the genre being niche to begin with.
>>499077337>>499077352>>499077408>>499077457>>499077682It's quite literally the elephant in the room, idk why everyone wants to avoid discussing it. Idle game systems are terrible when every other game lets you coast with one copy and all other ones are optional which puts this game near the middle or bottom in terms of generosity.
>>499078049We're here because we like idle gachas.
>>499078049I give up. You're just framing this game's numbers in the context of a non-idle game while ignoring all the framework and context supporting them. It's never going to be an honest conversation.
>>499078049can you go be gay in another thread
>>499078225>waited months for momento mori>was worried why they never showed combat in pre-release>combat was just pngs bumping into each otherluckily eversoul launched at the same time
>>499078332It's generous in the context of idle games, but most gachafags on /vg/ aren't idle game players. And modern gacha systems have perfected the carrot and stick to get you in and keep you in without scaring possible victims without things like needing tons of dupes per character.
this wouldn't have happened if they didn't give us a full dead month and quarter
>try out yuria in the event raid>can clear level 200 without troubleShe seems pretty op bros.
>>499093504Hopefully she gets another event, I'm close to maxing her so I don't want to roll on her rerun
>>499021491Yep. They should add auto like they do in the tower
>>499093504>healing>shielding>debuff cleanse on demand>attack buff>speed buff (instand GOD tier support)>MORE debuff cleansing, healing and damage reduction on her ult>angel so you almost always get a formation buff Yes, Yuria is busted as hell. No other unit compares in terms of sheer utility, but people don't praise her as much as Larry because she doesn't directly make your numbers go up.
>>499109084people dont complain because yuria is canon wife
>>499048707Rolling for non adc is a waste.
>>499124660My Sigrid says otherwise.
https://x.com/InRemembrancer/status/1847974172401848647Need Weiss NOW.
>>499134530Weiss marriage and matingpress
>>499109084The rules are your canon wife is allowed to be busted in a gacha. Plus she's so cute.>>499142105Night jammie
>>499142105sleep tight Jammie
Pitsrise
>>499153467giving jammies false hope
>>499153467it's nyover...
Pluto has me so mindbroken that I don't even know what a good score looks like anymore3bil? 4bil?
>>49915830510bil is the top whale score. 3-4bil is fine for people without the meta team. meta team is around 7bil, but that requires you to have an invested sigrid, edith, dominique and a lilith
>>499159626>CLinzy already out of meta>Only good for one (1) raid and sucks ass for every other content
>>499159626>meta team is around 7bilWhich one is that? Does it use both dom AND edith or are they two separate teams?
>>499159743https://arca.live/b/eversoul/118996385?p=1
>>499159743basically you got the lilith+dom+larimar team. Sigrid+eve team. fairy with onyx team.
>>499159781>>499159976I tried that dom team and I got like 2bil, I must be one hell of a shitterThanks for sharing though
>>499159976I don't have Sigrid, Lilith or Onyx useable yet. maybe next time
im happy with 2bil. too many obscure characters no one cares about are meta this time
>>499165062I'll be happy the day Cherrie and Nini are meta
>>499159976>sigrid alone is better than the twinsBros...
>>499168525Not alone, she needs Eileen like Bryce needs Melfice.
>>499169127>Eileen is the only thief in Eden who has balls big enough to fuck with Nightbloods>meta with the leader of NightbloodsKino.
never realised the synergy between eileen and sigrid. i should probably read skills more
>>499173438>>499170780>>499169127Doesn't Eileen just give a small attack boost on her artifact? Am I missing something?
>>499173704she buffs the shit out of stealthed allies and sigrid counts as being in stealth
Man still one more week til the new Halloween event and Halloweensex
halloskipgimme collab
>>499134530they should release weiss early on JP so we get more fanart
>>499183981its been so long since the announcement i've forgotten whos getting costumes
>>499187041nicole lute and erusha
>>499189370such a forgettable trio
>>499189370>Not a single flat girl in a bunny suitWhat a lackluster choice.
>>499189584At least Lutes getting a costume.
>>499190484who?
>>499190578The sex goatthe goat made for sexgoatsex
>>499196897My wife practicing fellatio after Jade has poisoned her mind
Finally got off my ass and cleared these too. Now I just need to stop procrastinating and try the raid.
>Nicole, Erusha and Lute is a bad lineupMaybe if you're a total homo
Reset Lilith!
>>499202190Great titsShame about the personality
>>499202190>confident older woman willing to show me how to touch properlyFinally... My ideal woman...
good morning /esg/>day 12>box 16>1500 gems spent>2 sold-out boxes>5x 40 arti tix
>>499203840Morning jammie!>day 12>box 11>one daily ticketAuughghh
>>499203840mornin' jammie
Good evening, /esg/My first Origin*5 soul.Brat Love.
>>499206142I want to make the brat a mother...
>day 12>box 18>7800 gems spent
>day 12>Box 19>1 ticket/dayFeeling pretty good about my odds this time around
https://x.com/Eversoul_JP/status/1848198523302625745?t=rxBxtVMfmpikMho-EhNr0w&s=19>Bryce's voice somehow even more sex than the Korean oneAAAAAAAAAUNDEADSEEEX
Which yuri pair do you ship? Personally for me it's Mica and Seeha
>>499221506Miriam and Kanna
>>499221506I like 8
>>499221506The Miriam/Kanna banter is fantastic but I'm do biased towards the twins, it's not even close.
good morning bwosanother weekend went by... and another week starts.
>>499221506>idolshit>hate each other>enslaved pet>who?>actual twins>jews>work "friends">most boring winnertwins win by default
>>499234695G'morning jammieNew content soon!
>>499245035When?
pits, we're 26. Please hit the boss soon.
>>499249724let me think about it... nyo
what happened to the korean whale who reappeared? did he vanish again?
>>499244968>t. I don't play the game btw
>>499250518Probably quit again after learning about Larimar.
>>499254535learning what about Larimar? Tell me
>>499256504That they added a damage scaling soul that will always be meta.
>>499256718Who is this damage scaling soul and how does she affect Larimar?
>>499246174I love my wives.
jammies, stop hitting. we need to drop 11 ranks for operation handholding
>>499258713pitbros just need to stop waiting until the final day
>>499266448night jammie
>>499265980>>499258713merge when
>>499270132Jammies are still nearly full. Might lose a few in Q4 though.
I dreamed about Manon last night. It was a good dream. Good morning bros
>>499272262good morning jammie
Better than I expected all things considered!
>weiss already bringing in new playershttps://x.com/t_nagalubit97/status/1847958489005781322why did they delay her to next year again?
>>499272262good morning jammie>>499274960good job jammie
>>499277871They needed more time to make her love story extra sexy.
>>499278818nakadashi?
>>499286153They're animating all her sex scenes and implementing a system where you see her pregnancy progress in real time
>>499277871It was either her or Sakuyo to make room for the collab, and they wisely decided to delay her
>>499286630More time to save for O5 I suppose
If Weiss is so great, why did the thread drop to page 10?Checkmate.
>>499297480all the shitposters left
>>499297631finally back to a comfy thread
>>499297480what the thread needs is more slutty elves. whori soon bros
>>499299262I'm glad i've never even heard of date a liveI can go all in on Whori and big Sakuyo
>>499299262They need ear special touch dialogue.
>>499299262>10 daysSo close, yet so far. Can't wait for the elfsex. Vivi didn't deliver so Wheri's love story has to fill 200% of the sex quota to fix that blunder.
>>499299729only if beasts get tail touch
>>499300148What about Honglan? She has no tail. What's her erogenous zone? Breasts or antlers?
>>499300785should ask claire, I bet she knows
>>499301059Claire is too busy riding my cock.
>>499301697This dragon needs a tailNo, I will not elaborate
BRATSEXSEX WITH UNDEAD BRATS
>>499311123you wish
>>499311123sex>>499311237sex
>>499297480Because we're not worthy of her presence.
>>499311681There is nothing interesting about this character. Why do you people obsess so much over her?
>>499311801they're straight
>>499311801>comes into straight thread>makes a gay postreally makes you think
>>499311801If you were attracted to women you'd get it
>>499311801She looks like a B*** A****** dropout, /b**/gots love them
>>499311801>petite build>uniform>tired look>drives a tankHow many more reasons do you need?
>>499313643I'm almost sold. Give me two more.
>>499314686Oversized jacketLooks like she has no shirt under it
>>499317715>Looks like she has no shirt under itSorry that was supposed to be under the uniform blazer
resettwins
Reset Aira!>>499322865I'm starting to really like that artist, they draw a lot of ES.
good morning /esg/>day 13>box 18>1750 gems spent>2 sold-out boxes>6x 40 arti tix
>>499312571>looks like she's from a popular game>is popular and liked by fans of the gameso whats the problem?
>>499325181morning jammie
>>499323670Yeah it's breddy güd
>>499334671Please delete this, I don't want to start lusting after gigastacys
>>499334991Hmmmmmm.nyo
>day 13>box 18>8450 gems spent
>>499326479>popular = good
>>499344479yes? why greentext that tho? have you not learned how to use the meme arrows yet?
>1 ticket per dayThis is just fucked.
>>499349130I bought 1 ticket/day and I'm at Box 20 or 21.
>>499349130You're ahead of me and I also buy 1 ticket a day
>day 13>box 17>gems spent: 0Luck is a skill in itself.
https://kakaogames.oqupie.com/portals/2470/customer-news/6290They're nerfing Larimar
>>499371361ah yes the old "it's a bug". it's for the best though
>>499371361>We conveniently discovered this bug involving Larimar. This is totally not a nerfNecessary, sadly.
>>499372128>>499372328They're only nerfing her to release better demons later down the path.
>>499372382hopefully they test those ones
>>499371361... and it's a good thing!
>>499372128>>499372328It actually would be a bug that explains why "30% bonus damage dealt during the 10 seconds" of her subskill somehow does the same as 100% of the rest of the team's damage in a raid fight.like people were seeing with CLinzy where they both did ~15 bil each when according to how the devs said Sentence of the End works, she should have been doing ~5 bil if Sentence of the End really did only "30%" of the target's damage taken extraWhether they decide to "accidentally" nerf her extra just in case is another matter
>>499378891Still have to wonder why they added several mechanics to counter her and spend 4 months to work out it was bug.
>>499378891Would be funny if they coded it as 300% bonus damage or if a decimal was wrong like 30.00% vs 300.0% and they just never checked the numbers until now
>>499371361It should have just been on her ultimate. It was stupid to make such a powerful debuff on a sub skill.
>>499387407sleep tight jammie
>>499371361Thank christI love my sexycute demonwife but she is way too potent>>499387407I also love my sexycute lolibabawife, night jamster
>>499360130I feel your pain.>>499371361Good, she needed it.>>499387407Night jammer!
>>499371361weird to see that even the koreans are happy she's being "fixed"
>>499400898That will change if she becomes worse than Lilith.
>>499371361>Nerf a character>Call it a bug and give no compensationah yes the favorite of scummy devs worldwide
>>499406643So explain this then >>499378891
>>499406643we did get compensation though
>>499406980Usually companies just accept things as a feature if the character has been out for months and they overlooked a certain part of their kit because then fixing it is effectively a nerf. It's fine if you give proper compensation for the nerf but 30k raid coins for nerfing a character is laughable here.>>499407035That "compensation" is the equal of 5 gems and a please understand like it used to be in the old days when companies like colopl coincidentally found bugs in meta characters before releasing better ones
>>499407407I honestly have no issue with this. We'll have to see what the numbers look like in the future, but as it is, Larimar does more damage to the game by being OP than not.
>>499407568I have more issue with the compensation rather than the nerf personally because then it just means they're going to get away by randomly ""bugfixing"" characters in the future and don't have to give out anything for it. Most gachas always try this shit so they don't have to outright say they're nerfing a character and anger the playerbase.
>Costumes on O+5>Nerfs disguised as bugsamazing how game is getting scummier by the second
>>499371361>company shits on players>es players: sluuurrp
>>49940788430k raid coins is not nothing, that's an entire raid worth. You can buy an origin selection chest for that, which are only sold in $30+ bundles.
>>499407407They don't fix it if their wording was unclear and just fix the description to what it actually does, but when they explicitly say something does 30% damage, and then in actual practice it does 100% they usually fix it to doing what they say it does (unless the mistake was global-only in which case they give like 1-apology roll in the mail and change the text because global paypigs will defend it)
>>499408052they already did this a long time ago with Vivi
genshin tried this same strat to bugfix a meta character and the outrage was so huge that they had to walk it back
>>499408501except no one is complaining, not even the koreans who complain about everything. it's just baitfags in /esg/
>>499408501It won't work here, players here are so afraid of eos if they lash back at the devs that they can get away with all sorts of shit.
>>499408501The difference is Genshin players don't just bend over like these guys
What a shitshow
>>499408660>>499408690>Gacha players
>>499408690No, the difference is that one of them is literally the highest revenue and popularity gacha which magnifies every reaction surrounding it. Comparing that sort of response to this literally who gacha is kind of ridiculously disingenuous.We'll have to see what the result of the change is, I've already seen like three separate interpretations of that notification so the extent of the nerf/bugfix isn't even clear yet. If it is a significant power difference then I have no doubt KR will complain about it and we might get some jims. Global's opinion might as well not exist so it's not even worth getting upset.
>>499409540I just want them to handle nerfs better. Games like Epic7 handle nerfs pretty good these days where they say we're nerfing this bitch and the compensation is so good that you don't even mind the character got nerfed.Meanwhile here all we got is raid coins and a "fuck off! we're all happy she got nerfed and if you aren't then you're baiting!!"
>>499408690Someone post that picture of Twitterfags "boycotting" the game because the characters weren't twitter-friendly enough (i.e. need to be blacker and uglier). And then the boycotters playing the game during the "boycott" and it's okay, they didn't spend any money because they've never spent money on Genshin anyways so their boycott is still going on strong
>>499409993If you had managed to get past the tutorial you would know how broken Larimar is and how she is affecting the game. You would also know how useful 30k raid coins are.
>>499410150why? what does that have to do with the ongoing discussion?
>>499409993I haven't really seen anyone have such a reaction. Mostly agreeing that the nerfs were warranted but we don't even know if it's a general nerf yet. One of the interpretations I've seen was claiming that it was a bug that only came up if you did animation cancelling with speed keepsakes to overlap the buffs.I personally agree with a substantial gem reward if the nerf is actually going to be impactful.
>>499410310If it's a nothingburger of a fix then it doesn't matter but if it actually impacts her performance and is functionally a nerf then they should compensate us for nerfing the character long after her release instead of trying to wave it away as a bug
>>499410749>Handwave it as a bugBecause it literally is a bug. If you want to argue the compensation for it isn't good enough, that's one thing, but don't try and pretend it's "not a bug" when it's literally over 300% (three HUNDRED percent) as good as the text says it's supposed to be. If we're gonna be honest though, it probably even only got caught though because of CLinzy where it was blatantly obvious that Larimar's "30% of 15 billion" shouldn't also equal 15 billion.>>499409993Games like Epic7 nowadays usually give you a selector, "Here, go pick some other meta unit to replace the one we're nerfing." How would that work here? Anything before Larimar is probably maxed, as for stuff after her it's really just CLinzy unless someone would want to use it to exchange their Larimar for Lilith to try and push for that costume
>>499408501>b-but genshi-Go back.
>>499411941they clearly did. this weeks unicat was probably the last straw where they did everything in the world to make lilith mandatory and people still bypassed it because of larimar
I think they're terrified of having to nerf her. They should've done it right after release but they were too scared after the initial reaction so now it's arguably seen even worse.
>>499412254anyone who cares about the longevity of the raid scene isn't going to be sad she is no longer broken. however if she suddenly becomes worthless then people might complain, it all depends how strong she is after the change
Larry being nerfed is a good thing.Vivi being nerfed was a good thing too.
>>499412590I agree, the idea of a damage battery is good but the Pluto raid showed how ridiculous it could get when it was literally 20x stronger than any other team.
i'm sad how this thread is a circlejerk of anons terrified about eos or the game dying
>>499413824don't care, still came buckets to cute girls
>>499411630>How would that work here?Gems? Tickets? Or just selectors anyway that you can use on stuff you're missing?
>>499413824That's cute. Now go back to /gig/, /bag/ or whatever shithole you came from.
>>499413824There's the anons that get really defensive and the baitfags trying to derail everything into shitflings but there's sometimes 1-2 anons actually interested in having legit discussions
>im sad people wont engage in my shitpostingtoo bad, people like the game and larimar being fixed is the best outcome for the game
>>499416295hilarious you're talking about shitposting when you spend literal hours shitting yourself
>No Larimar>No Eve>No YuriaTalk about how strong Sigrid is instead.
>>499417898We all know Sigrid is a premium soul, it's just that most niggers didn't roll for her. She's at Dominique power level or even higher.
>>499418771I didn't roll for Sigrid because I don't like insane women
>>499418973>>>/lgbt/>>>/cm/>>>/y/
>>499417898>>499418771Can we talk about how hot she is instead?
>>499419253I did roll for Dominique because shes cute and weird
>>499419354I wish I rolled for Dominique. She's built for breeding, consensual or otherwise.
>>499417898>>499418771Mine is still Legendary+...
>>499418771She released at a bad time for me so I skipped, same with Lilith (right after Linzy). She's also a normal soul so I will get her to O5 over time
we're still 26pits pls... my income
>>499424780join jammies btw
>>499424780Create the new thread and I'll think about it.
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