Pinned edition.>Latest patch (Hotfix 3.1)https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696782040358852369>September community update:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/93-september-community-update>First developer Q&A:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/84-message-to-the-community-a-first-q-a>Roadmap:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4238536974144553830>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - compilation of Dudes and information on how to submit themhttps://rentry.org/dudewallsm2gPrevious : >>498407817
Come one come allWA4FG
I never wanted this. I never wanted to unleash my salt. Together we banished the trash mobs of the Tyranids.But YOU betrayed PvE. You betrayed us all. You stole bandwidth from the host, and lied to your squadmates. SM2 has only one chance to prosper. If you will not seize it, then I WILL.SO LET IT BE PVP.From the skies of Decapitation to Seize Ground. Let my blood boil, let the salt grow. Though it takes the LAST. DROP. OF. MY. BLOOD. I will see the game become fun once more.And if I cannot have fun anymore...THEN LET THE SERVERS BURN.....
I am fortifying this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA0jY2b_QpIANON SQUAD DEPLOYEDWE ARE THE JANNIES' CHOSENWE WILL CRUSH THE ENEMIES OF THE JANNIESINITIATE SAMEFAG PROTOCOL TWENTY-THREEFOR THE GLORY OF THE MODSGREENTEXT AND REPLYBAIT POST IDENTIFIEDPOST (YOU)'DCLAIM IT IN THE NAME OF THE JANNYFOR THE JANNIES! CHARGE!ANON MARINES, ATTACK!TAKING (YOU)S!
>>498566279>>498566281cringe
>>498566281Thanks Dorn.
oh boy a new skin for my favorite gun, the Auto Bolt Rifle
WE ARE CHAOSCHAOS IS STRONG
>>4985662302/3
womp womp
Legion of the Damned cosmetic pack when?
>eye of terror>eye of TerraOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I get it
>>498566940>flame t-shirt skin
>>498567124mmmmmmmmmm badass...
>>498566940>>498567124>>498567228They'll take you all the way to Flavortown.
>>498566940Legion of the Damned got squatted so not within the next 10 years
I'm curious, how do you brothers customize your marines most of the time?No drip, medium drip or full drip?
>>498567981Lite to medium drip. I don't want to be a gigachad general of the imperium or whatever all that bling means. I just want to be a soldier with a cool pauldron or two.
>>498566281borderlands sucked
After they "fixed" the Iron Warriors colour for loyalists I couldnt do golden helmets anymore or properly for my veteran Blood Angels. Finally some actual golden armor with this one?
>>498567981Love>purity seals>ropes>skulls>knight crests>wingsHate>poaches>tabards>random flaps>text with preset color>eyebrow ornaments
>>498566795I don't like that the fabrics don't match
>wake up>no patch>gone for 6 days after today and have to get an early nights sleepITS FUCKING OVER CODE BROS YOU WILL HAVE TO GO ON WITHOUT ME
>>498567981I wish they had better options to show off chapter emblems. If you're gonna cover my left shoulder with skulls and shit, at least give me the option to throw the emblem onto a tilting plate, knees, or the center of the power pack.
>>498567493Dreadnought guy fieri >even in death I'm still served
Power sword buffs when? It takes three full swings to kill a minoris enemy.
>>498570023it takes a power stance sprint attack and 2 power rakes to kill 10 and then you can mop up the remainder with gun strikes for easy armor i dont see the issue
>>498568553Some odd choices in there. Why so many ultima founding chapters instead of established ones like Consecrators, Angels of Vigilance, or Disciples of Caliban?
>>498568553>Faceplates can now be colored separate from the helmetI can finally do Space Wolves Blackface!I hope those grafted emblem shoulders and beaky helmets are in the next update. I would be fine with just adding those minor chapter cosmetics to the existing trees. Don't do us dirty by padding out this shit over the next few months, Saber. I want either a wolf pelt draped over my dudes, or at least give me them White Scar tassel pelts!
>>498570643Are you seriously asking this question about a Primaris game?
>>498570643They definitely prioritise the heraldries present in the latest books first
>>498570812>my favourite successor isn't in lastest booksIt's over.
>>498570757Real chapters got primaris reinforcements, which is why we already have older chapters like the Carcharodons, Hawk Lords, and Exorcists.
>>498571283>my favourite successor chapter specifically didn't get Primaris reinforcementsIt's SO over.
Well, the Tyranids start coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming...
>>498571461This whole not providing primaris to certain chapters thing is so fucking weird considering Guilliman still gave them to the Flesh Tearers despite knowing that Seth was motherfucking him up and down and even said that Seth was free to say whatever he wanted about him.
>>498571559and they don't stop coming
>make some nonsense announcement in discord>an hour later there's a real trailer>someone asks when it's coming out>"Soon. But DEFINITELY NOT TOMORROW" out of nowhereAre the devs having a go or what
>>498571729Even RuPaul Girlyman kneels to Chad Tearers.
>>498571729They were provided, they just never got them.
>>498567981Depends on what chapter I am using at the time, and class. My BT Sword Brethren is a veteran and it is obvious. My Techmarine style heavy is more subdued. I try to avoid the pauldons that do not let me show off chapter and squad markings.
My highest class is currently a Level 13 Tactical Marine.How can I defeat a Hierophant?
No release date? Why?
>Meanwhile, on /v/>>>>/v/691957832
>>498571952Screenshot?
>>498572348The mission has you get a targeter and you use a big gun emplacement to kill it instead
>>498572475>/v/ children spamming and sperging over inconsequential horseshit>/vg/ bros actually posting codes and playing the game and posting about lore and mechanics otherwisedont direct them here
>>498572739That's a relief. I thought I'd have to do something embarassing like request a Titan Legion to come and fight it for me.
>>498571987It's the Blood Angels and all of their successors in general, really. Guilliman misses Sanguinius a lot, and so he affords his sons a lot of leeway and freedom that isn't afforded to other chapters.You think he'd let someone like Stronos call him a piece of shit to his face?
>>498565941ruthless with lvl 10 heavy, I genuinely don't understand what's happening inside the brain of an average pubshitter, both lvl 25 obviously
>>498573045>Imperial Fists HeavyBased, me too. What mission was it? I'm still only playing on average difficulty because I don't feel good enough for the higher ones yet.
>>498572504its in last thread somewhere
>>498573045i would honestly rather post a code here and idle in an empty battle barge for hours until someone joins than play with pubshitters
>>498573234He's a minotaur bro. And you claim to be a fan of your chapter, cant even identify the colors...
>>498572475I remember when /vg/ was the containment board, jesus christ what the fuck happened?
>>498573538Oh... I didn't pay close attention to anything other than the yellow looking colour.
>>498572783They're already here but typically every attempt gets them laughed out of the room.
>>498572224Issue is most right shoulder stuff isn't chapter fitting. You only got one option for each of the founding chapters and sometimes it just doesn't fit.I'm hoping for my bulwark since I run a Risen I'll get more Dangel specific markings and it'll look nicer.Still can't believe the chest piece won't have proper big flowing robes.
>>498573045the kind of player that wanna duo and deal with kicking players 5 zimes a minute that go into a private session
Pray for me brothers as I begin to level the auto bolter
Just pray for me, brothers.
>>498574176>>498574056If you need aid brother, call upon us.
>>498572783If thread links were 2-way I wouldn't have but it's fun to check up on the zoo once in a while.>>498573679ip counter being removed didn't help, that thread is full of samefagging. /vg/ is shit when a game isn't actually popular enough to support a general, but get kept alive by a few schitzos, when a game is new and alive it's the best place to actually discuss games.
>>498572475There was a fine 40k thread on /v/ earlier but it got moved to /tg/ after 400 posts. The replacement one attracted all the shitposters.
>>498573679/v/ has been compartmentalised into so many individual boards that the original serves next to no purpose, and so turns into blue /b/ where retards think they're actually getting shit done for their respective side of the culture war by screeching into the ether that is this Bhutanese finger puppet anonymous imageboard.
>>498566940>Legion of the DamnedYou just know something stupid will happen to explain why a bunch of suspected Daemonic manifestations are now Primaris instead of just the simpler explanation.
hurry UP
>>498576536I'm pretty sure they're memoryholed right now. The last time they were mentioned was during what, fall of Cadia?
I give upThe power fist + Assault combo is truly heinously bad.I'll have to try bulwark.
>>498576961>not babysitting pubshitters and holding their hands the whole way with proper spacingngmi
>>498577242i didnt think i needed to on substantial
>>498577240I thought it was okay, the gunstrike perk helps you take down majoris fast and the bigger power wave skill helps with cc.
>>498577425ironically you especially need to on substantial
>>498577425brother stay away from substantial as far as possible, it's a cesspool
>>498577542What bigger power wave. My range is complete fucking garbage. A fucking chainsword swing has more CC than anythingIf you mean the shit at relic who gives a fuck. I'm literally never using this POS after it's at relic level ever again unless it's completely reworked.
WBHRZ farming honor guard set for bulwark
>>498577240Its just ok, but for a weapon that relies so much on its charged attack it sure feels like the charged attack hits like wet noodles.>>498577542Brother gunstrike is great and all, but you dont need the powerfist to use it. The thammer and the chainsword are far better for assault. Im also still confused by what power wave really means. Does it mean the energy AoE? Because id that were the case i should be able to snipe enemies that way. The dagger also has the same perk, but i think that one increases the distance traveled? With shadow blade you take a big fuck off step forward.
Why the fuck can you simply not get fucking contested health back with meleeWhy the fuck does a fully fucking charged power fist hit not get me back all my goddamn contested health with two or three heavy bolt pistol shots doesWhy the fuck is this game so shit.
>>498579442yeah it should be the other way around with ranged attacks having weaker contested health regain
>>498578494Plz join
>>498579442>get hit>over half your health gone>by the time hitstun ends your contested health is almost gonethanks, saberfixing overheal really has done a number on melees viability, thanks, meltas
>>498578494Is this still on?
>>498580636Haven’t even got anyone yet
>>498580831Coming then.
>>4985808312/3
>>498578494Says expired for me.
>>498581351Sorry I’m dumb V9Q9S
if someone leaves the code changes and you have to repost btw
>>498580039This, I forget what fucking games I have seen this in. But I think Contested health shouldn't go down, and instead whenever you're hit again, that white bar is erased and starts again where your original remaining health was. Or at the very least just fucking extend the timer, because just seeing it go away when you're hit once doesn't really mean shit, just fucking remove the contested health altogether.
>>498566795>get cool hood for marines.>no robe, only togaYou know, this wouldn't be as big of a problem except for what >>498568780 said.You could have at least given us the ability to color the damned things. Or watch this, you can color this hood, but literally all the other fabrics come in some variation of red, white, and bone.
Hive tyrant fight is a complete crapshotIt either spawns you worthless waves while he does nothing and you get a few free executions.Or it spawns you a million mines or has the spawns attack right as the tyrant uses the 3 hit wave attack non stop making dodging impossible.
>>498572783/v/ is basically just /pol/ and /b/ but for vidya at this point. Full of retards
>>498583618>peel away from the hive tyrant to take care of the mobs>tyrant decides I'm a greater threat over the other two marines directly in front of him and charges from the other side of the arena to fuck me in the ass
The Flesh is Weak!
>>498583618What makes the fight hard is people just want to focus the boss and ignore the adds. I've literally seen the first batch still running around at like 75% strength when the 2nd one spawned before. Its clear who is routinely carried by their teammates and who actually knows the map.One time I sat there for like 10 minutes on the big room before the elevator on Ballistic Engine because I didn't click the terminals. The fucking idiots just sat their and complained about the map being bugged. Eventually I just went and clicked them and they thought it just magically fixed itself, despite there being no enemies around and they could have easily watched me.
>>498585113you are thoughthe big brain play is to go to kill the trash while the hive tyrant is still aggroed on you because he will be in the process of being primed to switch targets already
The leakanon was 100% right. Funny to see the Hierophant animated afrer seeing him not animated.Looks like the lasguns stayed in too.
>>498585113>teammates proceed to plink from across the map with their pistols instead of even thinning the minors around your ankles.
>>498585406I actually sort of wish he wasn't. If I saw it for the first time the biotitan would be impressive, now I'm disappointed that that's all there's in the patch.
F2UIM 2/3
>>498587601expired
>>498588224Now why do you think that is?
>>498588406Shut up faggot you will never be first founding
>>498566281Very good brother
I did itPower Fist at relicNever again.
What Chaos enemies are we most likely to get?What do you want the most?
>>498590157Melee CSM. Give the regular fellas those fancy space Egyptian power swords
>>498585238the deeds endure
>>498589806Is it really that bad even with that oneshot perk?
>two assholes go ahead and leave me alone against a wave as a Black Templar vanguardI HAVE MADE MY GRAVE HERE AND I WILL TRIUMPH OR I WILL DIE!
>>498590157Thousand Snus have Heavy versions but they don't employ meleeniggers outside of what standard Rubric Marines getMy guess is Obliterator or Possessed
>>498588982Stay mad
>it'll take them an entire year to build the alternate Necron artifact mission
>>498590157Giving us rubrics with melee weapons would go a long, long way. The reason why gayos is so gay is because of the lack of melee majoris. If they introduce a melee rubric unit it would significantly improve the combat with these guys. And please make rubrics engage in melee with you if youre within like 8 meters>>498579442Its not all melee. For example the dagger excels at getting contested hp back because of how fast it is. The problem is that melee, like ranged, induces degradation as soon as you hit an enemy. For slow weapons this is bad on two front because youre likely to take more hits during swing, and its hard to get more hp back once you start due to the slow follow up.Easy fix is to increase cHP gained for slow attacks, better fix would also be giving melee hits a slower degradation timem
>>498590157>most likelyFlamers, flying tzaangors>wantRegular chaos marines. A warband of black legion or word bearers who’ve come along to help sorcerer whatshisname
>>498592017>yearThat is unironically highly optimistic
>>498592059>And please make rubrics engage in melee with you if youre within like 8 metersThis should be the case for all ranged majoris.
>>498592170They already showed it in trailer, it's at worst at alpha stage.
>>498590680>>498592059Are you faggots forgetting the scarab terminators with a power sword?
>>498592528That's not a regular rubric now is it retard
FJUMI starting new lobby
>>498592304I'm sorry, what did I miss? They showed gameplay from a part of a necron mission?
>>498592604>What Chaos enemies are we most likely to get?>What do you want the most?Are you retarded?
>>498590157Pink and blue horrors
>>498585260stupid people may be less evil than evil people but god are they annoying as hell
>>498594319I do want them a lot, they've got some actual character to them compared to mute dust, bird brains, and the occasional wizard.
>>498585113This happens to me literally, literally every single time I do this. I always watch for the 50% mark to clear adds since the vast majority of people don't, and the Tyrant comes at me every single time at least once I'm convinced they programmed it this way specifically
>>498594875the spawn trigger is 66% i believe
>>498595372I believe you are wrong.
>>498595492ok but next time you hear the wave spawning sound and its above 50% remember what i said
9NMRI 2/3
>>498595492https://litter.catbox.moe/vqj3d9.webm
Tiny Heirophant
>>498595492>>498597548Oh shit son.
>winged helmet>dark angels artificer armor>winged sword>tabard with bared chest revealing chapter symbolSo you can just LARP as Chapter Master Azrael now.
>>498598131only thing missing is a fucking bullpup bolter
C4TAZ 2/3 plz join
The iron hands will be so cool looking.
>>498592059The Thousand Sons are seriously gimped compared to the Nids and lack any of the horror elements other Chaos Warbands have. No massive waves of cultists just small squad batches. No Daemons. No Chaos Spawn. Helbrutes but no vehicles or older Dreadnoughts (and the Helbrutes look suspiciously fleshy but that is just me nitpicking). No classic Space Marine assets even though Chaos are a bunch of murder hobos by trade. No evil tech priests and their fancy gimmicks. No surprise parties with other Evil Gods. No really spooky stuff happening not even creepy whispers from the glorified living armours.For a faction known for their souping this was pretty weak overall just concentrating on a tiny slice of them.
>More TSon units! >It's Tzaangors
a hive fleet but it only spawns hierophants ranging in size from normal to gaunts
>>498600738Helbrutes are fleshy by design, it's a chaos dreadnought that was bathed in warp energy until it fused with the astartes piloting it.There are no actual Thousand Sons helbrutes because Thousand Sons chaos dreadnoughts are filled with dust. What the Thousand Sons does instead is kidnap marines from other gene lines - traitor or loyalist, doesn't matter - and they toss them into an empty Thousand Sons dreadnought chassis and then leave them in the Eye to bake for a bit until the resulting amalgam of flesh and steel is too much of a gibbering madman to even remember what they did to him in the first place.
>was going to make an LA Lakers Assault Marine color palette for Chaos Dunk memes>No Emperor's Children for any purple colorsBoo
>>498602302Daemon engines shouldn't all look fleshy though since being warpstuff Daemonic things can look or manifest into anything. It just bugs me that it would be bog standard flesh and not you know Tzeentch's namesake. For the changer of ways there was little to see and felt very stale to boot. This chaos warband was just a bunch of opportunistic small time chumps.
to the fucking faggot who told me on approximately the 17th of september at about 10pm my time that there was no way they'd put a hierophant in the gameHAHAHAHAHA CHOKE FAGGOT
>>498604120this is just pathetic and sad but im happy for you but also you need to take a step back and look at yourself
>>498603000there are purple colors though...
>>498604120they said it's releasing tomorrow?
>>498603310I don't think you understood what I told you.
>>498604430it's ok i wasnt holding onto it, i was reminded when i saw it was comingi havent really thought much about this game in a couple of weeks
BX9R9roofless
CAN'T WAIT TO POINT A LASER AT THE HEIROPHANT
>>498600051Raven guard and salamanders are getting cosmetics, iron hands could well get some love too since they’re clearly not going by popularity with raven guard being up second.
The new enemy being an environmental hazard feels lame as fuck, don’t get me wrong a map about directing fire onto them is cool as fuck no doubt about it. But advertising a new enemy and then it being a map gimmick feels misleading, I wanted a new majoris to mix up the current maps.
>>498604582ROSE EATIN'
>>4986045822/3
I wonder if maybe I should have just waited for Lethal Difficulty to level all of my stuff first since it'll most likely give more experience. Then again, it might actually be hard enough to need full relics instead of bringing along a grey or green weapon.
>>498566795>take the Chapter with a lot of robes>do not give them any robes except for the champion skinwhy are they stupid
>>498606726im going to wait until its actually good before i level it
>>498607061These are the same people who put Deathwatch customization in the game and then didn't add the ability to put chapter iconography on the right pauldron. This game succeeded entirely by accident.I'm also convinced that their latest trailer is narrated by a computer generated voice using sample taken from Calgar's VA.
>>498604582ZSIZT, 2/3
>>498567981I'm against anything that covers the Chapter Marking / Unit Marking. I don't like roleplaying as the super ultra-Chapter Champion who is so well known he doesn't need things like company markings.
>>498607735why are you using chiansword on bulwark
>>498607847It’s the best melee weapon in the game
>>498607707The only reason I use the super ultra stuff is because I unlocked it so I might as well use it desu
>>498607603>then didn't add the ability to put chapter iconography on the right pauldronHopefully they add it in next update, but I have no more hope.
>>498607735Will this trigger EAC?
>>498607707Yeah I stick with the basic pauldrons so I can have my chapter markings too, that and the relic tier stuff is way too fancy for raven guard.
>>498607864it doesnt have the reach that power rake does
>>498608036isnt chainsword a normal weapon available for bulwark
>>498608057The rev up skill has a bug/tech that lets you partially charge and release it so it comes out at the speed of a light attack and counts as the second hit in your chain so you can do two attacks into a stomp over and over for aoe or attack heavy looped for single target and stagger. Can’t be beaten for temp health gain either
>>498604563Thousand Sons don't entomb the body in their Helbrutes. They burn the body into ash and entomb the soul so the flesh in a Thousand Sons Helbrute is from becoming immaterial by absorbing warp energies and them not bothering with stopping or guiding the process.
>>498608215sounds dumb i hope it gets patched
>>498608021I get that the right shoulder is for unit designation, but chaos units just have like the legion insignia on either one. Feels weird to me
>>498607847I don't enjoy how the power sword plays
>>498608826yeah it gets pretty boring after a while the same old cleaves and power rakes over and over again and i think you really have to sit down and focus on practicing stance weaving if you want to raise the bar which i cant be bothered doingbut really it plays really similarly to chainsword imo because the sprint attack is basically exactly the same
>>498604582D3B572/3, last one
>>498609653Logging in
>Been using fencing weapons forever>Decide to use balance for a change>Barely get perfect parries when facing more than 1 warrior>End up getting perma stunlocked and almost dying a lotFencing is a crutch!
>>498610920yes
>>498610920it also makes it possible to actually go up against multiple majoris reliably, so, pick your poison
>>498610920The only thing I use fencing weapons on are shooty dudes like the sniper so you won't get buttfucked since all you have is a knife.
>>498611408Balance is honestly the best for bulwark since you get the shield to block with, and balance tends to have more damage and cleave.
>>498611475blocking is never worth it unless you're sprinting toward ranged enemies man
>>498611423It makes it even more painful on sniper because the fencing knife is one of if not the slowest fencing weapon, thunder hammer lights are faster than the fencing knifes heavies. It feels fucking awful to actually attack with, the balanced knife feels great to use but woops looks like a gaunt tickled you during your party start up now your blocking ohhhh and here comes the 4 majoris attacks you were trying parry eat shit and die retard. Balanced and block need an overhaul, the block portion of both of them feel jank as fuck
>>498611423I just got banned from the reddit ass official server for arguing that the knife is better than the chainsword.
>>498611475Blocking is suicide in melee against threats, once you tank one proper hit you’re opened up and stunned so if you’re fighting a majoris and some minoris at the same time and you block the majoris hit all of the little bastards get to rape you for a full second before you get control of you character back. Only block if you’re blocking ranged attacks and even then be mindful of majoris melee attacks
>literally never shield bash, it's never worth tying your shield up when you might need to parry>the 5th column of perks are shield bash damage, a banner DOWNGRADE, and shield bash knockbacknice one, guess im just gonna take a shield bash perk
>>498611728Damn reddit was right for once, chainsword is the best melee weapon hands down and knife is battling it out with fist for last place. Go fight a horde with the knife and let me know how long it takes, i’ll give you a few hours to be generous.
>>498611846thunderhammer mogs chainsword for burst and aftershock can even reach targets in the air
>>498611837The shied bashing buffs melee damage is really good but it’s up against an even better skill, if only it was in the other column with the shit bash skills.
>>498611913Rev skip stomp spam can’t be beaten, it’s objectively higher dps and safer, but I would say hammer is second best just slower than chainsword and doesn’t regain white health as fast making it less safe.
>>498611475i don't like the hitstun from blocking in general, i would much, much rather parry my way through a horde.>>498611623the pve melee balance is just kind of retarded in general right now, i really need the power fist to have SOMETHING going for how damn slow the thing is.
>>498612212Yeah power fist needs to be THE single target burst melee weapon, it’s got fine crowd control with the right upgrades but it’s killing power is pathetic. Trying to melee ranged nids to death with it while they back dodge across the entire map is hilarious yet very sad
Balanced's timing across Majoris enemies is consistent. When you see them doing their windup, you press parry and you'll land it. Fencing's timing is a crutch but it still has a use case in that the fact that you don't have to account for the startup means you can squeeze out an attack before you have to press parry for an enemy's retaliation attack, which can mean the difference between landing a Stomp or Power Rake or whatever for better damage output and less enemies on your ass as you're dueling. Arguably much better than having better stats from using Balanced.
>>498611846If I'm spamming heavy attack combos, then I'm easily competing with the chainsword. It might not technically be better at clearing hordes than the chainsword, but it's much better at dealing with majoris+ than it, which is also much more valuable than clearing trash hordes.Not to mention that it's faster than it is weaker than the chainsword, so I have an objectively higher dps in the long run, not to even mention the amount of extra scenarios I'm allowed to attack during thanks to the increased speed that'll increase my dps even further.Here's me in pic related out dpsing a maxed out chainsword only tactical with the knife in melee btw.
>>498612874Meant for >>498610920
>>498612329my favorite part is that the charge attacks are so slow as to be nearly impossible to confirm on anything>>498612916>chainsword only tactical>within 250 ranged damage, while both of you are around 1.5k away from the heavy>melee damage is basically "didn't even try" tierso we're just making things up today
>>498612916>those numbers Come on now man. Fencing chainsword is faster than the fencing knife, you need to give up fencing if you want a knife that isn’t slow as fuck which is risky. I think the knife is cool as fuck too but let’s not fucking kid ourselves now
I use Melta and Fencing weapons
>>498611846The knife is absolutely not competing for last place. The first two heavies are absolutely devastating against a horde of gaunt or gors thats up your ass. The speed of its moveset also makes it one of the few weapons that can truly keep an enemy in pseudo infinite stun. Plus it being so fast means you can actually use block on it. You have to get the perk that gives you big dick heavy AoE. Try it out, it wont take hours to realise it really is one of the best melee weapons.
>>498612916Here’s me going full unga bunga with the chainsword, numbers alone don’t really mean much. I just think the knife is massively held back by how slow its fencing version is despite it being my favourite looks and feel wise.
>>498613067The heavy is a heavy, so of course they have higher ranged damage and no melee damage. They also joined late.>>498613164>fencing chainsword is faster than fencing knifeFencing is a crutch. It's all about balanced, and the balanced relic knife is faster but not as weaker as the balanced relic chainsword.The knife is better.
>>498613657make way for the most powerful ranged weapon in the game, the heavy bolt pistol.
>>498613406It’s not fast if we’re comparing balanced weaponsPersonally i’d rank them as suchChainsword Hammer Power swordKnifeFistIf the fencing knife had the stats of the balanced one I probably would move it up to about on par with the hammer but as it stands you need to give up fencing if you want a good knife and that’s shit>>498613693Use whatever you want man but you’re coping very hard
>>498613657>assault Your melee data unironically doesn't count.You'd be doing approximately the same damage if you could and did equip the knife. Your extra damage came from ground pound and ground pound perks.Redditors on the server tried to argue the same thing.
>>498613693>claims the tactical was chainsword only>had comparable ranged damage, clearly was not chainsword only>somehow fixates on the heavy having more damage and "a-also he joined late">melee damage is so low that clearly nobody was using it seriously, most threats were likely dead before getting into meleehomie your argument has so many flaws i'm about to pluck a chicken and call it a man
>>498613709I wish I could use heavy bolt pistol on sniper, it’s my favourite pistol by far
>>498613909That’s still more melee damage than your teams ranged put together, you can go ahead and do the same on vanguard and the difference is instantly night and day going from the knife to the chainsword. Maybe you’ve just got a funky set up on your chainsword and haven’t been using the full throttle mini heavy attack to skip parts of your light combo?
>>498613909>2k melee damage versus 30k>b-but the slam Kek fucking come on
>>498611913please remind me, can thammer aoe damage a thrope? does it work if it is hovering much higher?
>>498613709I've seen a Bulwark with 11k ranged scoreHe barely engaged in melee and was just shooting his Plasma pistol
>Calgar uses his normal VA voice in the new trailer instead of his Calgar voice
>>498613869>thinking the power sword's better than the knife>thinking the hammer's better than the knifeWow. Holy shit.And you think I'M coping hard. LmaoHammer's only good for buffing assault's ground pound. And the knife is just a better/more versatile power sword.>>498613946Chainsword only in the sense that that's the only melee weapon they were allowed to use. I don't know why chainswordfags need to be so disingenuous.>somehow fixates on the heavy doing more ranged damageYeah, I was answering the post I was replying to, you blithering retard.>>498614086Here's me doing the same shit with vanguard but even harder.>>498614173Try using relic melee weapons against the hive tyrant, then try ground pounding him with the same relics.Assault doesn't count.Knife > chainsword
>>498613657see what you did there anon
>>498613657>>498612916Neither of these scoreboards means anything. First of all depending on team composition someone is going to taking all the kills anyway. In the second post your team isnt doing jackshit which is why your melee damage is so disproportionately high. In the first post all members are doing equally well, but its clear that anon was going for melee kills more than the others.Another big factor is enemy faction. 2nd post is obviously tyranid. Thats gonna give you way more melee damage. Ive both relic knife and chainswords and i can tell you right now theyre both just as good, but my personal preference is the knife.>>498613869Yes, if you insist on using the fencing version. I dont. I see the strength of fencing but i dont ever consider it the better compared to balanced. Which is why i dont ever see the knife as inferior because i use both the balance and the block version. But truth to be told, even the fencing knife isnt that bad when it comes to handling trash, and fencing simply makes it even better for handling mixed horde.
>>498614945What difficulty are you even playing on anon? What are those damage numbers? Just stop
Is it a fun game in multiplayer, or is it an average sweatfest that will get you yelled at if you are not complying to meta?
>>498615129Nobody cares what you're are playing.
>>498615129You only get kicked if you die too much or are super low level in Ruthless.Everything else no one cares.
>>498615129It's pretty fucking chill and easyNobody really give a shit about what you play, some people bring lvl0 weapon in max difficulty just to get XP carried and still do fine
>>498615017Ruthless.>>498614992Telling you, knife isn't that much worse at clearing hordes than the chainsword, but it is by far the best at dealing with majoris or stronger, which makes it overall a little bit better assuming you're reaching their skill ceilings.I still use and like the chainsword myself though, and I wish it was better since the knife is supposed to be a last resort weapon and I think the concept of a 'chainsword' is so cool.
>>498615129observe how considerate the answers to your post are, yet if you read the general history you'll see people complaining all the time about others *bringing melta *spamming their class ability instead of waiting for a good moment *running straight to the next waypoint without picking up stuff *checking every nook and cranny instead of running straight to the next waypoint *prolonging fights *running away from fights
I love the powersword.
>>498615645Try getting good at switching combo types with the knife.
>>498615581>yet if you read the general history you'll see people complaining all the timeThat's litterally every general for every game, some might say that's the very purpose of a generalIngame tho? Never had any issue, no one give enough of a shit to complain or do anything
>>498615129It’s very chill compared to darktide, auric memestorm runs in darktide are filled with some gigga cunts. Here you get the odd kick happy host but that’s about it
>>498614992>i don’t consider balanced worse than fencingWell now I know you’re just full of it
>>498614845if it's much much higher then prob no but if its just above head height then yes the aftershock aoe will hitneurothropes you can obviously hit during their green pulsing phase too
Today I will play PvP
>>498615581the people who make these kinds of posts dont even join the codes posted in the thread let alone post their own bro
>>498617097great, me too. I hope we don't meet each other because I suck
the retard that was laughing at me for saying they should add the hierophant and how it wouldnt be possible must be feeling pretty fucking stupid right about nowfeelsgood lmao
Just gave the balanced fencing knife a good try after seeing the discussions and it’s really damn good BUT balanced is just utterly shit when you’re swarmed, it just takes one little fuck to hit you in the ass and you’re going to lose most of your hp on what would have been an easy parry against the swarm of warriors with a fencing weapon. Absolutely not worth it
The thing that annoys me about the fencing knife is it breaks the pattern other fencing weapons have, all the other fencing weapons get middling damage, low cleave, but high speed. Then they go ahead and give the speedy knife the low speed version, it’s so fucking slow it can’t maintain a combo when changing direction for fuck sake.
>bought the season pass because I like customizing my guys, and figured the season pass would bring lots of cool customizations>first dark angel stuff up is like at most 1 item per slot, sans a few slots, and it's not very good>instead of being individual pieces, the winged helm and robed outfit is a full body preset you might not even be able to recolorI don't feel so good...
>>498618091The pre set fancy outfits was the biggest compliment people had with the first game and they fucking brought them back, makes no sense.
>watch the trailer>enter the biotitan>jurassic park music starts playing in my headgood job mate
>>498618091Imagine spending an extra 40 on an already 60 dollar game, you get what you deserve
>"Hmmm tonight I will play some PvP">load into match>see this>next match is a stomp in the other direction except everyone has 180+ ping for no reason
>>498618091I would be less mad if the non-Champion armor we got was actually just robes as well. It's like making cosmetics for Space Wolves, and not adding any furs. Which is probably what they'll do.
>>498620028It was $30 for me because gray markets work and also I'm just joking, more customization will be cool and I want every piece of it lol stay mad
I just love that the devs were clearly as disappointed as I was when they found out the canonical size of the bile titan and were just like "yeah make it twice as big it's fine". Not I can only hope they portray an Imperator at some point and make it 200m tall like I always imagined reading the books.>>498618224Well of course they'd bring back their biggest compliment anon that's just common sense
>>498620071oh you actually met me.
apple bottom jeans boots with tha furrr
>>498620714da hole club was lookin at her
no nigger music in the war room please.
>>498620560I mean the height in canon checks out at 15m.When you compare it to a warlord titan at 30m high the models we have are also pretty accurate since a hierophant is about half a warlords height.An imperial knight is just a bit shorter than a hierophant.
>>498620926salamanders can't have shit in this ultragay barge
>>498620560As with most things in 40K its always better to add a zero to the end of the big things. 150m titans is just embarrassingly small. That's half the height of the Eiffel Tower. The 1000m titan in the graveyard planet is what the minium should be.
>>498621217The funny thing is that's an imperator titan and canonically should only be about 60m high.But all the artwork depicts them as various heights regardless of the official canon so we get shit like 1-2km high titans which just isn't the reality of it.
MAGAZINE OUTMAGAZINE IN
Here's your canon scale, on a canon scale jpg.
>>498621464Manlets MOGGED
>>498621464>Warlord Titan in game 1>no Titan in game 2They should have deployed them on Kadaku or Demerium.
>>498620560there's already an imperator titan in the game in one of the operations
>>498621608Both were already kind of lost, deploying a Titan would be a waste of resources.
Scale in 40k has always been all over the place.It changes from book to book, codex to codex, artwork to artwork and game to game.The scale is basically whatever whoever is making the thing feels like it should be.
>>498620714>>498620794JESSICADid you sleep with your GODDAMN teacher?
>here's that mountain of a titan I was talking about
>>498621117Maybe its just a perspective thing but this seems a fair bit taller than 15m, and warlords should be like 100m minimum. >>498621837And that's based, fuck 'canon' and all that comes with it. But >>498621979 >>498621464 are way too small, an Imperator in my mind should be similar to how the battleships are portrayed, big enough to have people running around hallways inside it, big enough for boarders to be having firefights inside it. Plus, the whole idea of having a cathedral on its back is way less cool if it couldn't even be as big as an IRL cathedral.
>>498622489>stand near turrets as horde mobs youKWAB
>>498622489Man it's so fucking coolI'm glad we're getting to see later stages of the invasion comingWe need more of thisFuck chaos shit, give us all the nids
>>498622617This, I give zero fucks about Chaos, they should have used a second xeno if they weren't going to go all-in on Nids.Should have been Nids and Necrons, but Chaos has to be in everything..
>>498622617It's cool visually, but gameplay wise it's going to be another Heldrake, which is sort of shit
>>498575713/v/ was exactly as shit as it is now before all those new, better boards were made. It's just a containment board for shills, shitposters and bots. Saving strategy games and rpgs from that hellhole was a good fucking choice.
>>498622737Fuck you, all WH40K games are doomed to have LE CHAOS PLOT in the second half of it's game and you are going to like it.
>>498622795well, what did you want to do? hit with your chainsword the talons it's walking on? shoot your bolter for 30 minutes to saturate the bullet sponge?really the two missed opportunities are-not fighting right below it so you would have to dodge its flesh hooks and tail sweeps-not having a titan punch its face at some point of the operation
>>498623376id have titus suplex the hierophant
>>498623376>well, what did you want to do?nothing, i wanted the devs to introduce another nid type along it
>>498622489why did dawn of war have to constantly move towards micro focus small scale and fucking kill itselfcould have had dawn of war 3 ultimate apocalypse that looks as good as space marine 2 by now
>>498623376I want to fly up and smash it with my hammer and see it not react.
>>498623376Auspex scan into one shot in the head, as the emperor intended
>>498623482that doesn't work on terminus idiot
>>498623430>>498623460that's campaign material because you would need all 3 players with jump packs to design any meaningful gameplay about going on top of it but they just had to shove chaos into the story
>>498623460unless they fix the flying out of bounds bug, you will certainly be able to.
>>498623553Classify it as a majoris when filling out administratum paperworkProblem solved
>>498623376i will punch it
>>498623376I have faced more fearsome tanks
>>498623445It's kind of funny the first new enemy type will be chaos even though chaos maps are wildly underplayed compared to nid ones. But there are more nids in the game than chaos so I guess they were determined to even it out
>>498623376maybe you will go under it, but I don't think they'll have you interact with tentacles
>>498623828The more things I see from the devs the more I think that they are just winging it
>enemy team is losing hard>two of them switch to retard baby mode bulwark>suddenly the capture point is utterly insurmountableThey're never going to nerf the fucking shield, are they?
>>498623828Thing is, chaos needed a melee majoris and that's not what we're getting
>>498623723So you got that job as diver, after all.
>>498624289you think enlightened tzaangors are going to be extremis?
>>498623913They probably are. Saber has been around for a while but this is their first true hit game. I doubt they adequately planned for the success
TZAANGORS AREN'T TSONS
>>498624659Neither are the helbrutes
>>498624659NOT MY FAULT YOUR FACTION IS FUCKING SHIT AND STOLE THE SPOT OF THE SUPERIOR SPACE EGYPTIANS
>>498624516>hmm yes let’s add ranged goats because people love them so muchReal mixed feelings about this dev team because this is about one of the worst addictions enemy wise they could have come up with
>>498625319they probably went with the easiest to implement one and reused Imurah's skeleton and scripting
>>498625319It's better than another variant of rubric marines that don't have any gore
>>498626087Adding gore won't make the Thousand Sons more fun to fight. The game is just too melee focused ith the tyranids for it to work.
>>498625319>ranged goatsenlightened =/= skyfires
>>498626975>Adding gore won't make the Thousand Sons more fun to fightWrong
>weapons left to level are all of tacs shit bolters, occulus and bolt sniperi dont think i have the strength
>>498631812Then don't
>>498631812You don't have to do it, you know. If you're just killing time until new content anyway you could go carry noobs through the lower difficulties even if it takes longer.
>>498621608there's an Imperator in the background of reliquary and one of the PVP maps at least
>>498631983are there even noobs anymore? most time I queue for lower difficulties there are either level 25s or sub-10 who know every geneseed and armory data spawn locations because it's their fifth class.
>>498632517>there's an Imperator in the background of reliquaryWhere?
>>498632908at the starthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egTBUkKnl-s&t=18s
>>498613406>few weapons that can truly keep an enemy in pseudo infinite stun. Light heavy light heavy chains do this on every weapon. The only issue is enemies have a maximum cap on being stunned, so they gain temporary immunity after a while. Even balanced knife can't do anything about that.
>>498633032It's inoperable, not the same
>>498632908How blind
>>498632881There were noobs who bought the game after the initial hype and there will be more noobs in December or whenever this game goes on sale.This general will be dead at that point.
Is this even feasible?3 Muhreens against one Tyranid titan? No Warhound titan deployed? No orbital bombardment from space? There were no Baneblades in the trailer and they just showed a few Leman Russ tanks.A titan this size can body multiple Land Raiders and Baneblades.
>>498633464You're going to be too fast to catch and then use some big dick turrets.
>>498633464anon where have you been for the last 2 days. start here and go down the spoiler reply line >>498413916
>>498568719k
>>498633679handcranking sounds and looks retarded
>>498568719>text with preset colorthe worst thing is, saber will probably fix "the bug" that allows to hide it
>>498634149>u mirin bro?
>>498633464Multiple baneblades would dick them, especially variants
>>498633464they could barely take down a hive tyrant they dropped a mound of plascrete and plasteel beams on, while it was still impaled by aforementioned beams
>>498633464As has been said, they aren't going to deploy all those resources to a lost planet. The operation is about giving the nids a big pain with as small a team as possible.
>spawn in game in progress inferno, level 2 guy is in the first area with a mortal wound>gets killed in the area before camp again>see him panic rolling away from a single sword warriorif you do this shit and wear crux terminatus your level should be reset when if you die
>>49863605825*
Play Blood Angels.
>>498635443Which desu makes no sense whatsoeverThe planet is lost, nothing you do matters, they will absorb all the biomass on the world and that's that
>>498634158I dread it because I bet there's some redditor who reported it (and a couple other customization tricks I use) as bugs.
>>498636058you don't know, maybe he overextended during a boss fight. But yeah, these days when I'm matched with a game in progress my first thought is wonder what made the original guy leave
the second tooth of the saber logo has one straight line fuckup and it really bothers me
>>498636058Terminators in Terminator armor constantly die to tiny ass Genestealers, it's only fitting that one without Terminator armor would die to Warriors. Based lore accurate larp.
>>498637914what if you also have helmet off
>>498638209You die so the main character (me) gets plot progression.
>>498636876i'm not seeing it
>>498637914Genestealers are the best at close quarters being rivaled only by melee specialists.
>>498638974
>>498621464not canon
>>498636545>a couple other customization tricks I usewould you mind sharing them? The only other "trick" I know is coloring the skull on the helmet with the base coat color so that I didn't look like a captain
>>498641818your nut cannon
>>498642024That still looks gay, I do this on my Sniper with the Templar forehead coin and it's ugly.
>>498642024>I know is coloring the skull on the helmet with the base coat color so that I didn't look like a captainIIRC a skull on the helm only denotes a sergeant. I'm pretty sure you're going to get at least one helm with a skull on it in any tactical or intercessor box.
>>498644171it depends on the chapter. But in "codex astartes-compliant" ones, solid color with skull is a captain.picrel is from reddit because I don't want to torture myself looking through and cropping the codex myself
Why do people say Imperial Fists eat shit?
>>498645124why do you pretend you're not that person?
>>498645124They job a lot in the fluff and don't have a unique aesthetic to lean on and get people interested in being a fan of the chapter.
>>498645124Behold.
>>498645124because they literally do on at least 2 separate occasions of their training and induction into the chapter's traditionsonce shortly after getting the implant to digest anything, where they have to eat as much garbage covered in fecal sauce as they cananother time at the very end of their formation as marines when they have to eat a nugget of shit from rogal dorn that gets eaten and then expelled by every generation and passed onto the next
>>498645124they got almost anihilated. the salamanders, ravenguard and ironhands also almost went extinct, but they got ambushed. the fists walked fully prepared into a 1 on 1 with the iron warriors and ate shit
>>498645549I don't get it
>>498646295dey eat da poopoo
>2 million players first day after release>month later it's only 2,5 million moreSpace Marine sisters... I don't feel so good...
Kind of annoyed there is no degraded gear option. MM have to scavenge after all.
>>498647463are you retarded?
>>498647463Relic devs on suicide watch
>>498647541nta, please elaborate
>>498648197fuck off concernposter
>>498648130IMO we were lucky that SM1 was as good as it was; Relic had no idea how to make a TPS. They'd only ever made RTS games until then IIRC.
>>498648130Relic would've actually made cool cosmetics for the Season Pass desu
>>498636401I WILL SAVE YOU FORM HORUS! NOBODY WILL HARM MOMMY SANGUINIUS!!!! AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I WILL FUCKING KILL HORUS! HOOORRRRRRUUUUUUUUSSSSSSS!!!!!
Something has happened and now my Bulwark is taking damage from my own shockwave ability, either the one that spawns from perfect parries or one you get from having your armour depleted. Perhaps it's caused by overlapping if you trigger both at the same time? Or an interaction with another class' ability causes it to bug out?
>>498647464My Tactical MM uses the Ultra Marine Bolter from the pre order thing, he "reclaimed" it from a fallen "brother".
>>498647463>this is your brain on /v/Go back and stay there, you've rotted it past the point of recovery
>Want to play an INF tactical captainNo blue visor>Settle for BANo Green visor on tactical>Want to play Bluhd rahven tacticalNo green visor>Want to play Raven Guard SniperNo beakie>Want to play Minotaur anythingOnly roman plumes no Corinthian style greek helmetsWell I guess I will just go fuck myself.
>>498647463go woke, go broke amirite?lmao chuds get btfo every damn time
>>498649740Brothers! We need a Sanguinary Priest here! We have a case of black rage here!
>>498651036They'll add them in 2027, trust
>>498651810I wouldn't worry about it.They'll collect his geneseed after the battle-brother suicide rushes a carnifex or something.
>>498651810I have been denied form her cuddles, TWICE! Horus stole them form me... I am fucking pissed.>>498652052Where are this Carnifex? I feel like rip and tearing something...
>>498650347>Helldivers sold 12 million in a monthononononononononono Warhammer sisters...
>>498652052Oh, it's alright now. Just Mephiston slightly less pissed than usual.>>498652557Why Horus would do this?
>>498647463>4 times as much as AAA Star Wars game40k is now more popular than Star Wars. Weird times we live in.
>only things left to do is level the auto bolter as tactical and the multi melta and heavy plasma as shitty heavy>gonna be at least 5 more ruthless ops just to max heavy
>>498657257heavy is coolauto bolter is trash
>>498657392they gave it a skinso that means they'll massively buff it
>>498650168me on the right>man this is a good gun>*shoots civilians*>fuck i need another one of these
I can't wait for the Raven Guard DLC to add in the Death Spectres as successors and for reddit to have a meltie.
Brothers, the stim..
>>498659950tragic
>>498660079oh shit I pushed a box into a chasm today too. Is this an after-the-patch thing? I don't recall this happening before.
>>498659950>>498660693I definitely recall finding that pack behind that little wall it's falling off in the webm but I always assumed it's an intended spawn.Also I've seen grenade boxes get thrown around before but I never figured out the reason behind that.
What now bros
>>498662276Level your weapons. The patch will make all of them good. Probably.
>>498662276You play the new OP on Lethal once then never touch the game again until the next major update.
>>498662276play the game if you keep having fun with it? what the fuck kind of stupid question is that>nooooo i cant have fun in a video game unless im on the xp hamster wheelkill yourself
>>498663590That's not what I said anon, you need to relax
>>49866227625 in Eternal War, of course
>>498633464Anything is possible when you're a space marine
>>498662276The Auto Bolt Rifle calls to you anon
>>498662276Level up other weapons like everyone elseEnd up playing Inferno over 9000 timesPlay PvP and switch to a specific class before the match ends in a win so you unlock cosmetics faster (especially for classes you don't like playing)
>>498666018>>498666792I started leveling the auto bolt rifle. It actually feels surprisingly good to use (in the way it handles and sounds) but the low damage doesnt really mesh with the gun. Hopefully they buff bolt weapons a little when they don't get headshots
headshotdamage does not increase meleeshot damage btw
>>498650168>picDid these two chapters ever come to serious blows like this? I thought it never went that far. Usually the Marines Malevolent get shut down.
Did the devs seriously say that the new update won't add the cosmetics and the new weapon?
>>498669512You mean gunstrike damage? I’ve been wondering about this. How did you arrive at this conclusion?
>no beaky helmets yet>cant join the beaky blinders
>>498671820Over doing it, rein it in
>>498671695damage meter
>>498671695assault, everything white with gunstrike percsniper with low gear and 50% headshotdamage then sniper without the headshotdamageheadshotdamage literally does nothing for gunstrike dmgit also does not proc a single "on headshot" talent in the game
>>498671085Really? I get pushing the cosmetics back, but doing the same to the new weapon sounds retarded.
>>498671085so it seems, they really want to space out those spikes of returning players
Reliquary is the worst mission in the game
>>498672602It just means they are making the cosmetics better *huffs copium*
>>498672724I like it
>>498672724Yeah, but it's not that bad. I'll never pick it myself, but I won't complain if I get it randomly.
>>498671085You fookin wot?
>>498675789NTA, but apparently that was something a 'dev' said in the discord? I don't know, it's just hearsay until someone inside that cesspit confirms it.
>>498667731It's a good reliable weapon, especially with the perforation perks. If you're good at headshotting, you can make some serious carnages with it.
Please shill me this game. Currently playing RT and suddenly I want more 40k. Is SM2 kinda like vermintide? Is there perk or skill system that not just +x to damage?
>quickmatch>it puts me in a lobby with a class i queued asi hate it i hate it i hate it i hate it i hate it i hate it
>>498677942I'll switch with you anon
>>498677773>Is SM2 kinda like vermintide?Only in the sense that you can co-op through missions fighting hordes of enemies. They're not that alike outside of it>Is there perk or skill system that not just +x to damage?It has both the +x to damage things and some more meaningful stuff that changes how classes interact with skillsIf you like 40k then it's definitely worth playing, bring friends to co-op the campaign for extra fun
Dudewall bro has gone missing...just when we needed him most
>>498680176He knew when to quit.Helldivers patched, Sister Marine dead.
Any lobbies? Trying to level Bulwark.
>>498680497>helldivers>game so dead he has to shitpost and bait in another game's general instead of playing it
>>498680764>hdg general alive for months>ywnbasm general dead after one monthI'm sorry but history is written by the winners and you lost. I do have to compliment you people on playing a 6 hour long game for 100 hours, that's some dedication to a joke.
>>498680726post code
BROTHERS I REQUIRE YOUR AIDI HAVE TIME FOR JUST ONE MISSION AND WISH TO UNLOCK GOLD WEAPONSTHIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON RUTHLESSI AM A BULWARK2RK3T
>>498681179oh, sorry.>helldivers is so dead he feels the need to bait in a dead general instead of playing itthat just makes you sound more pathetic, desu
>>498680764My friends and I play games together every Tuesday night, and last night only me and another guy were able to play. We played Helldivers 2. No one joined our game over the course 2 hours of constant missions.
>>498681179>in here AGAIN seething Lol
>>498680176>>498680497Still here Brothers. My apologies for no updates lately. I've been a bit occupied but as I promised the update to the Wall come on the weekend at the latest.
This game needed like 5 more missions at launch
>>498681968This game needed way more cosmetics and customizations options>no chapter emblems for the other shoulder>weird color separations>can't color robes>the 'DLC' armor options are a joke>zero chaos customization
>>498681402expired
>>498681402Yeah expired, just finished a mission
i can join for one mission too >>498681402
since >>498681402 is already in-game9W3JAI would like to level my snipereu
>>4986839953/3
>>498683995go to bed
>>498681881My assault Bluhd Rahven
V7NM3 RuthlessI'm leveling Bulwark so be something else.
>>498684507Received.
>>498684616Room for 1 more.
>>498681402MISSION COMPLETETHANKS AGAIN BROTHERSI SHALL RETURN
>>498682192What do you mean? Now you can actually play the game.
thanks for the dose.
My gratitude, brother-apothecary
I finally leveled the auto bolter to relic, and it remains garbage. Bolter buff when?
>>498681881Put my Blood Angel sergeant on the wall pls
>>498688290tac should recover a % of total ammo in addition to a general bolter buff. the weapons that are overperforming on him are also the ones that get the entirety of their (important) ammo restored every 30s.
>>498681881This heretic bulwark would like to be on a wall
97FD3Come kill xenos and heretics with your battle bros
>leveling auto bolter on ruthless>other teammates are a vanguard leveling an oculus carbine and a sniper leveling the auto carbineThank the emprah it was on inferno, I would kill myself if that was reliquary
>all these lobbies>never when I'm freeAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>498692584Having low level weapons against chaos is cbt compared to nids
>>498688635The way they nerfed GL was odd, and seemed more like a quick and easy way of 'addressing' the issue. It honestly never made sense to me that the cache refill was removed. The real problem was the perk refill yet they didnt touch it. Guess they just didnt want to touch the perk system at the moment.
>>498692916anon, there are a lot of people idling or doing pvp all day long. Just post code when you have time
>>498670851They haven't come to blows. However the Marines Malevolent are infamous for looting dead Astartes, and commonly serve on fronts with several other chapters (including the Salamanders on Armageddon.)
>>498694737how did they nerf the GL?
>>498681881I'm not entirely sure what this Wall is but I'm volunteering my Deathwatch assault to the cause.
>>498695672It's in the OP. Just all of the Anons dudes together
>>498649740>>498652557You sound less like Horus killed Sanguinia and more like fucked her. Are you into NTR by any chance?
>>498682192Space Marine 3. Trust the plan.
>>498695942Oh, I already fucked it up then.>>498681881Here's my actual entry, uncropped as requested. Deathwatch.
Good Tier Levels1. Decapitation: Gaunt Wall should have more Majoris/Extremis during it.2. Inferno: Final wave defense should be slightly harder, with infinite spawning waves or a guaranteed Terminus. It's too easy once you know the Promethium timing and the flank spawns.3. Fall of Atreus: Feels like the 'final level' which is a good thing. Almost always has an exciting ending. Dreadnought defense section can get really gay with it spawning multiple Rubriks on the far platforms accurately sniping you the whole time. Battery section is a Litmus test to see which of your Brothers should be turned into a Servitor.Meh Tier Levels4. Reliquary: Pacing is weird. 90% of your time is spent in the Catacombs and then you're suddenly at the boss. Servo-skull has a hitbox for some reason so it can get stuck on you/enemies. Bridge section is annoyingly difficult because sometimes there's no ammo in it at all. Feels like you should just run through it and ignore everything.5. Vox Liberatis: Arguably the best level up until the final area. Daemon Host event is way too boring and way too easy.6. Ballistic Engine: Sandstorms are really stupid considering Astartes all are supposed to have HUDs and target markers in their helmets. Carnifex spawning at the Train Yard 9/10 times gets a little old. Ending somehow manages to be less interesting than the rest of the level.
>>498696558>Battery section is a Litmus test to see which of your Brothers should be turned into a Servitor.That and the stain glass windows in Reliquary really do filter the retards. I wouldn't be surprised if they change the battery section at the end of Fall of Atreus to be more streamlined, just so it always changes tracks in a specified order.
CAC5Crooflesslike two runs until thunder hammer is relic
>>498677773>is it like vermintide?Only as far as both are horde shooter/melee games. Some fundamental skills such as target priority, movement and horde herding are shared, but whereas tide games has a huge emphasis on the dance of death (block, push, attack, dodge, repeat), SM2 puts more emphasis on controlled aggression because how effective HP is generated. Both games have a high skill floor but tide games i argue have a higher skill ceiling. I like both gameplay loops though.>perk systemYes. Basically identical to vermintide, but saber has never been known for making good perks system. Perks range from borderline busted to completely useless, depending on your class. Perks range from simple +% damage to enemy type, to stuff like increased parry window or invisibility on perfect dodge.>>498695461You cannot get ammo from using the big ammo cache, only the small ammo boxes and by tactical refill perk (which hilariously treats the entire reserve of gl nades as a mag, so like 14 nades). Did nothing to the weapon, but some people still whined about it. It was a pretty inconsequential nerf, just like the so-called melta 'nerf' (more like a bug fix)
>>498696558>Battery section is a Litmus test to see which of your Brothers should be turned into a Servitor.The amount of times I've been stuck on console duty because the other two want to just stand next to the battery only for them to get impatient and start bitching in chat while I'm up there fighting for my fucking life and pinging shit in the hope that they'll stop standing there and come help is equal to the number of times I've run that mission.
>>498659950squad broken
I hope they add more voice lines. I want them to get full Diomedes ham levels
>>498697632yeah, really should have had multiple consoles with different symbols on the tutorial to better illustrate the upcoming mechanic
>>498672724It's bad but not the worst, the worst is Vox Liberatis.
>>498698054Yup. Real ones know that the strategy for Fall is two on the console clearing adds off themselves and the battery, and whatever class is best as melee sitting on the battery itself.
>>498696558100% on the battery part.I've now come to the point where as soon as we reach that part I chat "I'll work the controls", just to make sure someone intelligent is doing it. Pubbies are often relieved they just get to kill things instead of having to use their brains.
>>4986978352/3
The current number of posters in /sm2g/ is NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE
>>498657682All bolters except maybe the stalker need desperate help. The most iconic weapon in the franchise shouldn't feel like such a peashooter.
>spend thirty minutes customizing my pvp guys>puts me on traitorwhat the fugg
>>498700525THE ARCHENEMY ARE CAPTURING BEETA
>>498700525>put out new trailer>no Operations and Eternal War customization syncing (for those who want to look the same)>still no option for a delete/clear all button for customization slots>no option to add more customization slots>still have to win 35 times to unlock every armour piece, the least they can do is use the class 35 times>no autobalancing to prevent curbstomping in the next match
>>498681881>never posted mineSon of Lupercal checking in
>>498700945Good
>>498697835KTRYG2/3
>>498696558>1. Decapitation.On higher difficulty levels enemies should come from both directions. I get it's cool to have some variability but there needs to be more enemies and a boss spawn here.>2. InfernoI once had a bug where the waves never stopped spawning and we had to fight our way through a horde to the Thunderhawk. It wouldn't be enough but in general I'd like if missions actually had extractions as part of it where Tyranids endlessly chase you.But as the ending goes front area should absolutely be spitting out Tyranids the whole way through.>3. Fall of AtreusI have the exact opposite experience. The ending is typically boring where I walk around in circles taking potshots at enemies in the distance waiting to press the button. I'd say it's the weakest TSons map for me, doesn't really have anything cool apart from defense segments that are trivialized by the Dreadnought.>4. ReliquaryI like the fights, I dislike having to check bodies and babysit a servo-skull. It should have just been a mid-game defense segment. The bridge also feels like just unnecessary waiting, I don't think I've ever had an interesting fight there except maybe with the Hellbrute spawn to the left at the entrance but that's not really the bridge.>5. Vox LiberatisI like having two factions on one map. The big open arena with water has really cool fights happen there on the off-chance a wave and a boss spawns.I agree on the Daemonhost, he's a non-threat, there's typically 5 medkits there even on Ruthless and barely anything spawns. The only ending that's more lame is Atreus.>6. Ballistic EngineThe sandstorms are ultra shit but the interior area where you load the warhead has consistently spawned fun fights. In general I don't hate any part of it especially, the ending can be fun when there's a boss around but otherwise suffers from just being too easy like others.If I were to rank them it's Inferno - Decapitation - Vox - Ballistic - Atreus - Reliquary.
>>498700945>no Operations and Eternal War customization syncing (for those who want to look the same)It should have just been 8 slots shared between the modes.>still have to win 35 times to unlock every armour piece, the least they can do is use the class 35 timesNo, it's fine, especially since you can grind in PvE if you're bad in PvP.
Can you beat Substantial difficulty with bots? Or is it asking for too much of them at that point?
>>498703145>8 slots shared between the modes.Would look bad on console UI, please understand.
>>498700227>except maybe the stalkerRetard
>>498698719It's a straightforward mission. What's not to like about it?
>>498703805You can do ruthless with bots.
I like the sandstorms
>>498704675I love them because I can basically force my team to cooperate with me. Watch what happens when you mark a target when the sandstorm is in full effect.
>>498704643Really? Are they that sturdy? They seemed very sturdy playing on average difficulty but I didn't know how they would hold up beyond that.
>>498681881Captain of the Honor Guard of the Blood Ravens Apollo Diomedes requesting admission to the dude wall. God I hope we get blood ravens cosmetics.
>>498697835A575S2/3
>>498705073>God I hope we get blood ravens cosmetics.Ultramarines bolterUltramarine chainswordUltramarines heavy bolterDark Angels power swordDark Angels storm shieldDark Angels auto bolt rifle
>>498705181Do you ever get tired of this joke?
>>498704904They do almost no damage comparatively but they also just about never die unless they get stuck somewhere
>>498705073Apollo Diomedes doesn't use Ushabti Bone, the pauldrons must be Evil Sunz Scarlet while his helmet is White Scars WhiteHis jump pack is also generic
>>498705336It's lore accurate
>>498705482Too chicken shit to answer, got it
>>498705401We dont have the gucci blood ravens sculpted golden shoulder pads so I opted for the normal blood ravens colors on the shoulders. His jump pack also has golden trim around the intakes, which we also dont have so I settled for the double eagle head. Its a game of compromise.
>>498705401Technically he should be all in black with a skull helmet.
>>498705667>Technically he should be all in black with a skull helmet.Brother Chaplain Leandros will be a new class with his grav pistol and Crozius.
Blood Raven Tactical should get Thunderhammer, Plasma pistol, Iron Halo as a skill instead of Auspex and a red cape
>>498705839Is that confirmed? Are we getting new classes later?
>>498706075It's hopium copium but they said they're interested in Apothecary, so IF that pans out no reason to not have a Chaplain eventually.
>>498706186Except that none of the classes we have are leader units.
>>498706295I actually agree, there would be a huge gap between normal classes and the HQ choices, which is why I sorta liked the prestige class being HQ thing some anon floated bunch of threads ago but that's still unlikely, even if only because you can't get enough important people to fill out 6 slots.
>>498705482>loreNo such thing.
Alright fags, do I replay Space Marine 1 before playing 2? Haven't played it since release. Or do I jump straight into 2?
>>498707210You can jump straight into 2 honestly.
>>498705336No.
>>4987072101 is barely relevant, if you're even mildly familiar with the plot of 1 that's enough.
>>498707210I think they explain most of it in the game anyway. Your only advantage in knowing SM1 is that you'll know way earlier why Titus is so fucking pissed once he learns the McGuffin from SM1 is back.
>>498707210>>498708131Oh and I guess you won't understand the ending reveal that Leandros is the Chaplain but that's not really that important.
BLOOD RAVENS ARE GAYI PRESENT THE SUPERIOR BLOOD THEMED CHAPTER
>>498708304Who?
>>498708304>My Assault and BulwarkWE ARE THE SONS OF SANGUINIUS
>>498703939Explain why the stalker bolter isn't in a good spot right now.
>>498705482A worrying amount of people actually believe the Blood Ravens are kleptomaniacs because of the meme.
Blud Rehvans are just red Ultramarines, they have no special cosmetics outside of their diverse wargear.
>>498696558It shouldnt be surprising that nid missions are generally better.For me, all tyranids only missions are good. Gayos missions are all kind of meh. Vox liberatis is the only mission where you can tactically allow enemy reinforcement to cause nids and chaos to fight one another, which is amazing. Unfortunately the level has a few sections that are very open, which make fighting chaos extremely tedious esp before the nerf. The 'boss' fight is uninspired, and unfortunate spawns can really mess you up. Reliquary suffers from the same problem as vox liberatis, where open areas highlights the problem with a primarily ranged faction. I am actually fine with the catacomb section, but the helldrake hazard section can be extremely horrible depending on spawn and your teammates not knowing how the helldrake despawns. Getting an extremis in any parts here can severely hamper your ammo supply (if you arent already suffering from it), and getting a hellbrute here has always caused casualties, since it doesnt get roasted and youre often strapped for ammo. The boss fight isnt a boss fight at all, but an ammo dump on a healthbar. Its boring, and mostly just an IQ check (a low one at that) . Its piss easy on com, but ive had randos who just press the first thing in front of him. Its really a fight against bad teammates.Fall of atreus is the closest to a good chaos mission, mainly because in many open arenas you get the dreadnought to help you out. Its kind of funny to have an escort mission where youre the one being escorted. The finale still has the problem of being too open with little cover (the train doesnt actually provide hard cover esp for melee enemies), and emperor help you if you get a hellbrute that spawns in the middle of a wave. And as usual theres an iq check for the cart.Gayos just needs melee majoris enemies to be more fun. Possessed squad, or rubrics with swords. Seeing another ranged gor just makes me gag though.
>>498709119reliquary would be fixed if the heldrake could fry the enemies, just that alone would make the mission more tolerable. as it is it's just too long and unfun, and when traitor guardsmen are just chilling in the fire that kills you nearly instantly it's fucking stupid.
>>498708638Not him but i find it unfortunate that its basically just a bullet hose dmr. Or rather, because the ammo economy is so dog youre basically only running the max ammo version because having an extra 30% total ammo is just too good to give up. I feel like sniper should have gotten a perk for his signature for ammo refund instead of equipment, which on the sniper i never use because the other perks are way, way stronger.
>>498709119Personally I also dislike the Thousand Sons missions because on the road to 41,000 kills there simply aren't enough traitors spawning to speed my progress.
>>498709465need green eyes so bad already...
>>498709252They do actually, which is why when someone is just running can potentially make the sections way harder than needed. In case anyone is curious, if one player makes it to one of the big safe zones (not the burnt down cathedrals), the helldrake despawns till the next hazard zone. This is why running ahead is extremely detrimental if theres a wave, because you leave your teammates to fight them in an extremely open arena. Conversely, if there is no enemies remaining this can be used to make the section less time consuming.
For me the REAL question is does the massive commercial success of Space Marine 2 give us a chance at someday getting Boltgun 2?
>>498708820>A worrying amount of people actually believe the Blood Ravens are kleptomaniacs because of the meme.>meme
>>498709404Yeah. They should revert the spawn rate for gors. Theyre in a very good spot right now, what with shield restore on minor parry and more importantly reduced shield gor health.
>>498709789Boltgun already sold well, it didn't need the SM tie-upThere's a reason why people want white Mk7 helmets
>>498708638Because I leveled it to relic and its really nothing to write home about. And everyone who always claims its s tier shuts up as soon as I ask for footage of them actually clearing ruthless with it.
>>498705401Incorrect.
>>498709792matchless savagery of russ reads more like "the magpies made an axe that the furries considered an insult" than "it was a gift"
>>498710039All the Chapters are aware of the Blood Ravens but for whatever reason the Space Wolves are dicks towards them...Hmmm I wonder why
So, the thunderhammer perk that restores armour is actually more busted than i previously knew. Its bugged depending on which TH you have! If youre using the fencing version, it will always restore armour, uncharged or otherwise. Yet on the block version, it doesnt work at all.The powerfist is similar. Ground strike doesnt have any AoE at all, and hell im not even certain if the fist itself has a hit box. The powerwave thing also doesnt seem to work, because 8 meter should be a huge increase, yet ive never noticed it. If theres a side by side comparison itd be helpful to see if it indeed works.
>>498710029Retribution not Chaos Rising
>>498710104i'm not gonna say the others aren't pointing in the magpie direction, but that description in particular says to me "the blood ravens made a shitty axe by wolf standards"
>>498709792>Blood Angel archivists have no records of any such exchange.>"Only death may separate me from my sidearm.">
>>498699320I end up with dumbasses that insist on fucking it up. Even here sometimes people make mistakes like getting too close to the battery before it's been turned in the right direction.
>>498705181I think the storm shield is unique to the champion skin.
>>498710230What they did was they dressed up a shitty axe to hide the fact that they stole the real one. We are talking thieves so good they pulled a fast one on the Custodes.
>>498708820>>498709792Blood Ravens are thieves to such degree Relic was even pretty meta with this stuff.
When is the update?
>>498709792Lmao went back to play DoW2 with ultimate exterminatus and i fully understand why theyre called klepto now. These niggas really do be going around stealing other chapters wargears and relics.
>>498711885>tfw Blood Ravens steal your defense of Terra.
>>498712016They're gifts brother
>>498712060No more Imperial FistsJust Blood Ravens in the defense of Terra along with Black Templars
Any codes?
TBVK7Leveling fist on Bulwark, I suck dicks at thisJust got called by boss to come into work super early tomorrow so have no time for nonchill dudes, just want a low stress run
>>498712358>gift taken from the cold dead hands of a chapter captain>we have no recollection of this exchange>this thunderhammer was literally wielded by an exiled bloodthirster :^) brother, do not deny what you are
>>498714470Expired
>>498714470>Leveling fistMy condolences
>>498715382now why the fuck might that be
>>498702473Seeing this has me realize, we really do need an option to pick the color of our weapon casing.
>>498710009You can't seriously expect someone to record and upload an entire match of themselves using the thing just to placate your autism, and it's not like clearing ruthless even really means anything in this easy-ass game anyway. The thing is undisputably great at picking off majoris from long distances, and even up close its ttk is probably still better than the other bolt rifle options.
>>498708854This is going to be incredibly funny when all of the chapter cosmetic packs are our. We will get the ultimate Blood Raven loadout.
>>498717007>still no footage on any kindYeah, I thought not.
>Imperial Fist with veteran markings and 3rd company colorsThis is the 4th time in a row I've seen this, are people just retarded?
>>498718296Mate I'm an Ork player I don't give a fuck about your autistic marking system
>>498718296People pick the default and assume it's correct when it isn'tIt's the same as the huge number of Blood Angel Assaults that have red helmets
>>498718296The only reason I know anything about Blood Angels, is because my box of Necrons came with some mehreens.
>>498708284I never played 1 and even the most casual familiarity with it made it obvious who the chaplain was pretty early in the game. (also just the fact that he was always "the chaplain" and never took off his helmet when everyone else has a name and shows their face made it obvious he would be *someone* from the game, and his antagonistic and distrustful attitude made it just as obvious it would be leandros)
>>498723515I agree and I assume this is the same for most people at least familiar with SM1 through some Warhammer memes but if you're absolutely blind and have no idea about anything SM1 related then this is probably the only one thing that isn't explained. Like I think Titus explains roughly what happened but he doesn't mention names and I don't think the game ever makes that connection overtly. I might be wrong, the dialogues were pretty forgettable, but I remember Titus explaining Graia and The Power Source but never mention Leandros by name and at the end it's just a shock reveal and they get in the Thunderhawk.
>>498718450this games alright, but I really want other this kind of game with all the other factions together
>>498718296NTA but I wish the game had a basic explanation of Codex Compliant painting and maybe a couple examples of non-Codex Compliant stuff. Normies dig that stuff if it's explained to them.
>Calli is playing SM1 nowLooks like 40k has gone mainstream.
>>498725115who
>>498709953>There's a reason why people want white Mk7 helmetsWhat reason is that?
>>498725217
>>498725392Who
>>498725504The rapping reaper.
>>498705336>Implying in the grim darkness of the 40th millennium it isn't hilarious that one chapter is just going around and "borrowing" all the other super soldiers gear This is basically the only reason bloody magpies survived so long and people still paint/play as them.
>>498725392>>>>>>>>>/vt/begone
>>498727496Kek
>>498696558>>498702827I king of wish we could replay parts of the campaign as our operation dudes to level up as well. I just replayed it for fun with the last playthrough being on release and there actually are a lot of parts and sections of the campaign and missions which are very good and absolute kino. Shame that most people will not replay it.
>>498725392>Krieg > CadiansWhat a fucking normalfag. Kriegniggers need to be exterminated. Steel Legion > Kreig
>>498729775>somebody else likes the steel legionPlease tell me you like OG stormtroopers, too.
>>498729947Yes
>>498725392>SM1Man I miss the orkzI hope they add them to this game in future.
>>498688358>>498689691>>498696521>>498701248>>498705073Received.
>>4987302642 Xenos and only 1 Main Character (Chaos). Lol I don't think so buddy. >t. GW
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
>>498706295as far as cosmetics are concerned, we are exclusively playing as captains and first companies.
>>498709119>allow enemy reinforcement to cause nids and chaos to fight one anotherfuck, that's brilliant, I have been playing this mission wrong all this time.
You enter your battle-barge, and this is what happens to be in the hold of your ship:https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Special:RandomWhat's the theoretical?
>>498736661practical - bird hunting
assaultbros, am i retarded or is it impossible to jump on platforms to the sides of battery section in fall of atreus?
>>498737390never tried it, but it's probably closed off by an invisible wall. assault's verticality is mega gimped in pve
>>498737390pretty much any drop or out of bounds area on the maps is blocked by an invisible wall that you can't ground pound past. it's fucking annoying. you need to get used to dropping first, and launching around corners instead of going directly towards the enemy even when they're otherwise in range.
>>498738030it's fine when a nid sniper spawns and stays on a ledge because he'll jump down eventually and you can stagger it with concentrated fire, but yesterday I got a ranged termie who just kept chilling up there and raining us with rockets. it was infuriating that i couldn't reach him and had to wait for him to fancy teleporting down to us dirty peasants instead
Finished heavy bolter(kino) on heavy plasma or melta next
>>498738508Post code, I want to level fist
>>498738508Plasma is really cool imo, one like using melta
>>498740041The hell?*don't like using melta
>>498717820Effeminate cattiness.
>just woke up>10GB updatewe are so back brothers
>>498740983Why do you lie?
>>498741372Restart Steam, dingus.
I am fortifying this update.
More gifts brothers
>>498621464Those numbers are utter shit and whoever wriote them needs to be shot.A normal real world cathedral is 100-150+ meters, and in 40K they make their way bigger.With those numbers, nothing fits. Books with squds of space marines fghting inside the titan, making their way trough corridors big enough for them..Do retards think titans are hollow inside and you have tons of space to work with?
>>498740983
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2183900
>https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/97-patch-notes-4-0-new-content-for-operationsIT'S HERE
>>498741372It's real!
Once those downloads are finished I better see some codes for the new operation
So how does the new fencing change work practically I'm a bit retarded>Melee Archetypes: Fencing weapons' perfect parry window will now have the same duration as balanced weapons but it will start from the first frame of parry animation.
>>498741923it means you'll how to relearn how to parry with them because timings changed again. Also reconsider changing to balance since fencing will be less impactful.
>still no lens update
>Ruthless: Ammo crates have limited refills per player.
>fencing nerfed>auspex nerfed>melta bomb nerfed>ammo refills limited on ruthless and above>player armor nerfed>lethal difficulty addedOh yeah it's gaming time
>>498741923>Press Parry button>Fencing parry window activates immediately from the start of the animation and lasts x value of seconds>Balanced parry window activates a bit later in the animation and lasts x value of seconds
>>498742116>Games too easy!>Devs take notice and make game harderBased devs
>Extremis enemies can now spawn have additional enemies.So multiple extremis or it will also spawn other adds?
> Armour restores from finishers only if you stay close to your battle-brothers.that's a wipe if you get matched with speedrunners
>>498742276And anyone playing solo
>>498742237Adds probably. Mutliple extremis would be cancer. >Imagine 2 or more rocket Terminators
Biggest winners here are those Tacticals, Vanguards and Snipers who maxed out all of their guns before the updateAlso Bulwarks who maxed out Fist
79NK3Lethal new mission
>>498742276Luckily it's only for Lethal Difficulty
>>498742276>Armour restores from finishers only if you stay close to your battle-brothersWhy would you do that?
JF56G lethal new map playing assualt
>>4987424242/3
In SM1, we all defaulted to the meltagun and lascannon, didn't we?
>>498742654History repeats itself.
>>498742570to have your team perks synergize properlyto have cinematic last stands where you have no idea what's going on because the entire massive wave now fits on your screen attacking from every direction at once tanking the fps
holy shit battleniggas it's real
>>498742380>Biggest winners here are those Tacticals, Vanguards and Snipers who maxed out all of their guns before the updatemfw I finished the last weapon (fist) last week and I'm finally free
>more color changes fucking my schemes
>Armour restores from finishers only if you stay close to your battle-brothers.This is either going to be barely noticeable or really annoying. Just fucking remove the free armor on minoris parry. No matter what else you change as long as that mechanic is there the game is too easy
>Enemy variety within waves is now less randomhope you guys like spores.
>>498742779Oh shit, new Op.
>>498742939did they even fix nuln oil? They didn't mention it in the changelog
>>498742974Artificial difficulty
>>498743013>less randomBut that's a bad thing.
>>498742974What's the purpose of the beak helmets?
>Fixed Assault bugIt's over
>they really didn't add the cosmetics or the new weaponholy shit
>Nerf armour>Nerf parry>Nerf ammoOne month speed run to kill the game
>>498743408They're going to bring the old one backThey don't need to pander to Fromfags
Lethal is fucked
>crashed
>>498743280it's the exploding barrel bug. They didn't fix the boomerang krak bug. Speaking of which, this week I had another instance of a heavy exploding and bitching on chat he doesn't know what happened.
>>498743502Lost so badly the game crashed
NWVY3Lethal new mission
>Melta Charge: damage to bosses is reduced by 70%.BOO BOOOOO what the fuck?I better have lots of FUN killing a Hierophant or I'm going to be upset!
Making Ruthless harder will kill the gameAt least in the previous state you had people clearing Inferno to max out the guns and classes
>>4987436212/3
It's so fucking over.All they had to do is incerase spawns, throw in bunch of Extremis and even multiple Terminus spawns but instead they went the way of nerfing players to the ground.I fucking hate this shit.
>>498743320Wait, we have to wait longer for that to show up?
>>498743270they were the original space marine helmet
>>498743880It felt bad when I read the notes and it felt really bad on the first lethal try
>>498743645>Melta Charge: damage to bosses is reduced by 70%.Wow. It's not like we use those for anything else.
>>498743645>>498743949Melta literally has no niche now. It's pointless.
>4 zoanthropes can show up now
>fixed: a sniper perk that wasn't working half the timeis it headshot or ranged damage related? is sniper finally a one tap machine in ruthless with the right perks?
>>498744186>it was the boost on cloaked damage, 75%>apparently it just didn't work sometimesyou're fucking joking
>Dark Angles cosmetics are actually months away hahajesus fuck, I bet that shit's not coming until December now
>Ruthless: Ammo crates have limited refills per player.>Ruthless: Player's armour reduced by 20%.>Substantial: Player's armour reduced by 10%>Fencing weapons' perfect parry window will now have the same duration as balanced weapons but it will start from the first frame of parry animation>Basic Auspex Scan: bonus damage on bosses is reduced by 30%.>Melta Charge: damage to bosses is reduced by 70%.If you think these nerfs are significant you need to kill yourself holy shit. This is what you faggots are melting down over? hey retard, if the fencing change is causing you to take hits then you should have been using balanced in the first place. The only big nerf is meltas which is one source of boss damage that you're not even guaranteed to have when you fight a boss.I can not fucking believe how dogshit this game's community is. You are the most brainless fucking apes I've ever seen. If you're so terrible then stick to minimal you dumb fucks and let people with a triple digit IQ enjoy the game.
>>498744039>one day they may throw in a neurotyrant or maleceptor too
>>498744308And they won't even add any changes to them to justify the long waiting period
>>498744363Cringe
>>498744308Source? Like did they give a time table?
>>498744363The ammo crate change is a horrifically bad change from both a balance standpoint and from a player experience standpoint because it massively exacerbates the issue underperforming weapons have which is a poor ammo economy. It's a genuinely fucking stupid change.
ranged damage from nidders seems infinitely worse on lethal anyone else noticed this
>>498744308The new cosmetics and weapon looked already done from the trailer they showed, why the fuck would they delay them?
>>498744363None of this matters that much except no armor regen unless in (very tight) coherency. You basically have to be shoulder to shoulder at all times.
>blocking weapons are bad!>how should we fix this?>I know, let's keep fucking with fencing's perfect parry windowplease stop
>new map>new difficulty with increased currency rewards>no new cosmetics to buy>no new weapon to buySitting on finished assets to artificially stretch out your ''content pipeline'' should be against the law.
>>498744796>we heard you loud and clear, now no melee weapon can parry anymore :)
SHANT be playing until they drop prestige levels/cosmetics
>>498744989See you in 2040
>Overcoming such a challenge will grant you new cosmetics...Learn to read.
>>498745161Post the new cosmetics then?
>Adds new Chaos emblems for Right Pauldron>Still no regular Chapter logos on Right Pauldron to properly do Deathwatch
Did the new update fuck up mods again?
>>498745278Do you even have to ask?
>>498745254You will play BT or Space Sharks and fucking like it.>>498745329Sigh, gotta do my backups again
>>498745278>>498745329>>498745364Stop cheating in my PvE game!!! CHEATERS!!!
>>498744689If you were refilling more than twice from a single box you were playing wrong.
>>498745206Here's a helmet
>>498745519nice mouthgrill bozo
I imagine the regular troops of the chaos legions are pretty pissed off at the fact that they're all men.
>>498745519Mark VII cosmetics SOON™ BROS
>>498745532Might actually be a decent option for Sniper, I guess.
>>498742939It's so annoying it keeps happening. I haven't even played the new mission yet. Just fixing my damn colour schemes. A lot of the new changes mess everything up
Most importantly, they fixed the Heavy's missing wrists.
>>498745532>>498745638Where are the fucking BEAKS?
>>498744863>parrying now causes you to take health damage :)
>>498745797Rayman sisters, our response?
>>498745797
>>498745816>If you take a fencing weapon, you will now die as soon as the operation starts
>>498647464I have good news >>498745532
>>498745532you think this will become increasingly more difficult to unlock the more operations they add?
>bulwark nerfed into the ground>no cosmeticsWow. Thanks. Bye.
>>498746090Hopefully they'll add a new piece to the set with each new operation.
>>498745532>playing through all of those for a scratched primaris helmetlol, lmao
back status?
>>498746134>bulwark nerfed into the groundHow?
>>498746184We are so NOT back.
The newest map is too big and only good for one mission.Running Inferno on Lethal is still better.
Thanks to the fine folksWe beat Lethal :)
>no Bolter buffsOkay?
>>498746247Parry, less armor and no armor regen on executionsHonestly no armor regen on executions is absolutely fucking garbage game design. Lethal will just be a ghost town.
>>498744786That sounds really fucking annoying. How close are we talking here? I'm often shooting shit into execution status from across the room. The way you describe it sounds like team mates aren't going to get shit for it unless I stop doing damage and walk over to caress their ass while they execute.
>>498745638Fucking PLEASEMy World Eater is incomplete without it.
new difficulty is brutal need to play it slow and stick to your teammates like glue
A rather meh update desu
>>498746481>assault>dies 4 timeskwabshit updatemade an entire class useless
>>498746481We le heckin did it!Thanks man, you da MVP.
>>498744690Yes it buttfucks assault bramble nids seems to go crazy too and just spam the traps
>>498746386>ParryGit Gud>Less armorGit Gud>no armor regen on executionsStay close to your battle brothersYou niggers have been complaining that the game is tOo EaSy and now that the Devs make it harder you complain.Overall GIT GUD!
>>498746481What is assault actually supposed to do now? I like going and blowing up ranged but you're just going to get shredded now
hold, with the armor on exec changes on lethal does that mean you are basically fucked when your mates are down since you can't get armor back? huh? need to try that later
Lethal is basically spore mines and snipers everywhereAlso enjoy Terminus spawns on small areas
>>498745532>red visorsinto le trash it goes
>>498746719GG 6 more to go >>498746739They've always done that though. I always target and prioritize them first when possible
When is the real update?
>>498746801You can still get it back while they are downed (near them), although I'm not sure about full dead. So good luck if there are ranged
>>498746863>Lethal Fall of Atreus>Lethal ReliquaryNo thanks.
Lethal is just Aurics, then?
>>498746930But Chaos is easy now lol. Imagine pre-nerf chaos on Lethal
New map not for farming, it's a one off where you do Lethal on itHierotitan is bleh, at least you don't get massive swarms as long as you cull the 1-2 Warriors every cycle
Why didn't they add the DA skins or is it for another update?You only get a broken helmet and a power sword for the Bulwark. No visor colour change either.
So when the Termination Operation happen in the timeline ?During the campaign or after ?
>>498746784now that aoe on liftoff is safw again, replace heavies' stomp so he can stay in heavy stance and blast, apparently
>>498747109AfterKadaku is lost but the Imperium wants a final fuck you against the Nidders
>>498747009>New map not for farmingI hate you faggots that do such a thing. Just play and enjoy the fucking game. I solo Atreus and Reliquary for fun on Ruthless before this update
BRO WHY ISN'T "COMMUNITY REQUESTED FEATURE" IN ALREADY?!?!??! LIKE IT WAS 4 WEEKS?!?!? LIKE PUSH THE IMPLEMENT BUTTON BRO??!?!?!? LIKE PUSH IT MAN?!?!?! SO EZ!!!!
>>498747208Who are you quoting, you blubbering retard
Might call some Battle-Brothers to test the new Lethal missions. Doses are preparing, please wait warmly.
Reminder that if you have the Icarus laser pointer you can still switch to your primary if you are getting swarmed.4 Zoanthropes just showed up and this Chink Vanguard just got hosed. Also if the laser pointer guy dies and respawns in 300 seconds the game gives it randomly.
You never get any closer to the biotitan, do you?
>>498747163We're all maxed outMaxing out guns is all that is left
Limited ammo just prevents gray/green Inferno speedruns since your peashooter is useless and you can't reload as often as you'd likeYou now have to play Average (still bugged with pre-patch spawns) and Substantial Except for melee weapons, they're fine
>>498747350Count me in Doc.
>>498746763I never complained it was too easy mechanically. I just wanted more waves and more melee enemies for chaos. That's all I fucking wantedAlso>stay close to your squadLol. Lmao
The new mechanic fucks over Snipers bigly
Oh there's a bunch of Tyrannic War emblems as wellAt least on the greaves
>>498746481>3725 XPIs this with gene sneed or without?
>>498747684with
>>498747513Inferno doesn't really need you to shoot at all. A single shock grenade clears a generator
Coherency means you’re fucking over your squad if you bring assault or sniper.
>>498744363>I can not fucking believe how dogshit this game's community is.coop games in general attract the worst retards and stoners. makes me second guess if i´m a retard stoner honestly, since i love coop games
>>498747208I'm beginning to think that adding adjustable lens color might indeed be beyond the capability of this shitty maintenance team. They really should bring back the guys who made this game
>>498747723They'll add it along with the Dark Angel cosmetics in 2025
>>498747380play the assault, jump out of bounds, hit it with a sword
>>498746660>>498746784Probably just going to have to pivot entirely into crowd control with the thunder hammer uncharged aftershocks and lots of pummel strikes with it and bait out parries/dodges on larger units to gunstrike them. Use one charge of ground slam to close the gap on ranged nid chaff units, kill them, and use the other dash to get out. I genuinely have no idea why he doesn't have a primary weapon.
i dont understand the melta nerf desu. it was already bad-ish vs bosses. ok vs hellbrute and carnifex. and killing big things is the stuff meltas are used for in concept. i already dont touch melta on anything but vanguard (50:50 with instigator) since its pretty trash on heavy imo. it gets big artificial damagenumbers but its so unflexible and i rather have all purpose tools like heavybolter and plasma.
>>498747710>Assaultyes>Sniper>>498746481 had a sniper that killed 9 extremis and only died twice tactical man was probably using relic plasma incinerator or nade launcher to reach 29k scorei agree sniper is useless with the new buddy cohesion mechanicswhy bring a las fusil in a short range fight lmao
>>498747862Heavy Multimelta with max range is very useful on Lethal
Post update be like
New operation was very fun but felt more difficult, maybe because I haven't learned any of it yet. Just felt like all swarms all the time it was a bit crazy. The Hierophant looks so fucking creepy they nailed that at least. What an ugly fucking bug monster.
>>498747710Carbine perma-stealth Sniper is probably one of the best classes to bring for the Coherency issue since you have a class that doesn't need to do executions and can safely stick with any member of the team while also reducing cooldowns by 10% each headshot kill. However you need to use one of the bolt carbines then and that thing has absolutely no ammo.
Is it probable for this game to go on sale during steam halloween? I want to try it, but I'm not sure I want to pay full price for it.
>>498747862Anon they nerfed melta BOMBS not the guns.
>>498748149Too earlyMaybe on Christmas sale it'll be -35% off
>>498748157lmao then i dont get the outrage at all
>devs are willing to change fundamentals of the gameplay like change parry timings and how much armor gets removed on hit>but fuck bolters though lol
Sounds like Heavy is fucked >no melee and Lethal spawns a bajillion swarms>limited ammo which fucks Plasma >Multimelta will clear swarms and Warriors but not Zoanthropes, Carnifexes and Neurothropes
game becomes challenging again and reddit immediately loses their minds, you love to see it
>>498748374see >>498747131
So the parry change to fencing is that you need to parry right as the enemy attacks, rather than like a second before?
>>498748407desu, artificial difficulty is the worst kind of difficulty.
>>498748374Bolter bros it's our fucking time. Run bolter dry, throw grenade, get back 30% ammo. Run bolter dry again, throw grenade again, get another 30% ammo.
>new Operation and new difficulty mod add new knee markingnoice
I know there is pvp mode in this game. Is it meme-tier or actually playable?
The update didn't do anything for peak Asia/Aussie time, gotta wait if Yuros love the new update
>>498748157>>498748257Meltafags are retards that can't read. No wonder why they exclusively use the melta because their IQ is lower than one that only has a brainstem
>>498746963Clearly not. Since auric doesn't change how toughness regen works or limit ammo boxes.
>>498748257Melta bomb serves no purpose now, Kraks already overkill Majoris
>>498748593the side which has more level 25 guys winsit's impossible to git gud because you die as soon as you leave spawn area
>>498748593It's a crapshoot because theres no team balancing. Can be fun but stick to Seize Ground, maybe Capture and Control. Annihilation is trash.
>>498748457Fencing now has identical parry frames to Balanced, except Fencing frontloads those parry frames while balanced has them backloaded. So as a simple example if you press the parry button with a fencing weapon, you will parry for the first 1s and have 1s of "dead" timing where it doesn't work. With Balanced you press parry and you have 0.5s of dead time, then 1s of parry, then 0.5s of dead time. Identical parry windows but they're at different parts of the animation.
>>498748635I'll check it out and probably play inferno + decapitation once
>>498748796Then what's the point of using Fencing anymore. Are they really going to nerf both Fencing and Balanced until they are shit as Block?
BAYONETS! THEY'RE ON US!
>>498748593it's playable meme-tier
>>498748503I'll take a provided challenge over the highest difficulty being a brainless cakewalk if I'm being desu
Just beat Inferno Lethal with a green Power Fist.There's more waves from start to finish and this is the first time I saw both of my teammates quit halfway and then replaced by a new set of teammates who immediately joined in and one quit when a massive wave showed up after the lift section. The Heavy bot died and then was replaced by another player who only died once in the 2nd wave. There was a Zoanthrope and Lictor spawning together in the end. I died thrice (in the AM camp, in the refinery when the two randoms quit and once in the end), only had a sliver of health left and lost the gene seed but at least my Fist is purple now.
>>498748760Nah just git gudI've been called a haxor by the couple of level 25s because I kept pwning them and I'm only lvl 10t. have 1000 hours in the first game's pvp
GELLAR FIELDS DOWN!
>>498748796Right, okay. Think I'll switch to balance then, as that's closer to the timing I'm used to.
>>498748878Not only they do less damage, and in some cases are slower, they also make it harder for you to switch to balanced because you have to unlearn the timing. Isn't it wonderful
>>498748760level 25 means nothingthey could be shitters who only played pvp and grinded it out from level 10-25what matters more is pingif your ping is high you can't headshot properly
>>498748760>the side which has more level 25 guys winsRetard take. Level doesn't matter in PVPThe real autowin is having more bulwarks than the enemy team
I don't know why you all are complaining about the Fencing parry change. It feels to same to me desu
This is the HD2 update for SM2, game is dead.
>>498749092give it a change god damnit!
>>498749072>The real autowin is having more bulwarks than the enemy teamOnly in Capture and ControlIn Annihilation they're uselessSeize Ground is more team oriented
>>498748878Fencing is still reactive, you press it before being hit and it'll always work, with Balanced you need to press it say 0.5s before getting hit so Fencing is still better in high pressure scenarios where you're mobbed because it comes out instantly with no delay. Personally I'd take balanced for most weapons now and take Fencing for the knife because it has good melee canceling so you can afford to be very aggressive with it.
>>498748954ah yes, I forgot about cheaters. Not so tough now that the update broke your tools, are you. Fuck you
buff bolters, you cowards.
>>498749129>Only in Capture and Controlaka the only worthwhile PVP mode
I am playing Lethal Termination right now, this one Chinaman Tactical is just spamming Auspex Scans.Fucking dirty cheater
>>498749092Go back!
>>498749130Fencing on Chainsword as well otherwise the double stomp doesn't work, but maybe they fixed that
>>498748407I'm watching the reviews right now to see if the game's going to get reviewed bombed but them. I have a feeling it will
GSIII lethal lets go
>>498749083It's functionally the same you just have a 33% shorter parry window and a 33% longer non-parry window at the end so if you parried on reaction instead of parrying on prediction you wont see a change. If you did parry on prediction you'll want to switch to balanced though and the timing will be identical.
>melta got fucked>tactical just switched to plasma, gl>heavy just switched to plasma, which got massively buffed>vanguard is just fucked despite now being the ezmode class in terms of health regainlmao
>>498749375>melta got fuckedMelta guns didn't get nerfed faggot
>>498749375Melta grenade equipment was changed, not the melta weapons.
>can't mute other player anymore Uh...
>>498749436>>498749442I'm not talking about this patch, faggots. Full heal on melta was genuinely one of the only good reasons to take it. Chaff clear is not a real reason. Tactical's infinite ammo ability only refills THE ACTIVE MAGAZINE, but on Plasma and GL that's no problem at all, whereas on melta it means you've still got limited ammo. Heavy plasma is also just insane now. Melta is trash.
>>498749375>melta got fuckedLow IQ detected
>>498749560You WILL listen to a Guatemalan man scream at his wife
Really need the techmarine class to place dispensers
>>498749336How are people so shit at video games?
>>498749696Seeing how they are drip-feeding content you'll get the techmarine class in SM5
>>498749659hi, you are retarded, ask for clarification instead of assuming what someone is talking about >>498749570 cute image tho, wasted your time however
I spent all day yesterday downloading this game and now I have to wait hours for a new update.
>>498749570>Full heal on melta was genuinely one of the only good reasons to take it.KEK that fix happened a long time ago. Melta guns are still fine. The fact that you say that it's only good and worth taking because of the overheal bug just shows you are fucking trash and need to learn to dodge and parry and not get hit.
>>498749779it's okay, servers will be unusable anyway because everyone will come back and try to play
>>498749348Is this still on? Logging in.
>>498749760But anon in the anonymous 4chan imageboard told me than it was in two more weeks...
>>498749884Don't you know what happens when the two more weeks end?
>The cohesion range is abysmally short, if the graphic bar isn't completely full you will not get armour back>Majoris enrage even if you're actively fighting them.>Enraged Majoris cannot be knocked out of their shielded stance, even by heavy attackYeah, I can see people quitting PvE in droves. I'll give it a shot but so far it seems very, very poorly thought out and, dare I say it, not fun>t. all classes at 25
>>498749926The end of times?
>>498749868anon, you really should stop doing this. Asking will not reserve you a place in a lobby. Just post your own code if you come too late.
>>498749850I know you're desperate for me to have been wrong about something, but pretending full heal on melta wasn't busted because you just never got hit is extremely homosexual behavior. Now suck my dick.
>>498749992No, the real two more weeks being.
>>498749336>>498749740HD2 being (allegedly, I didn't play it) too difficult means we can no longer talk shit about bad balance?
>>498749998I usually quit the game if I'm not playing.
>>498749740>Game too easy pleaes make it more challenging>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT THIS IS LIKE LE HECKING HELLTRANNY 2 NERFS!Those kind of people need to be fucking purged!
>>498750016So techmarine in two more weeks, got it.
>>498750016begin* oopsieAlso, does the new Cohesion stuff mean you can't play Lethal with bots?
Anyone tried Ruthless Inferno? Is it harder now?
>>498749570>>498749775
>>498750028HD2 is actually piss easy now
>>498750097They're right though. HD2 destroyed itself by nerfing everything to the ground instead of buffing the shit weapons nobody used.What we need is for block weapons to get a parry window.
>>498750159>>498749939
>>498750232I get it, you were reaaaally desperate for it to be true that someone thought the melta charge change meant melta weapons. You really wanted to believe there was someone dumber than you, but there isn't. Grow up.
>>498749939I'd rather them drop this update with the volkite and horde mode
Man I died way more in SM1 than 2. I don't think I died at all during the campaign on my Ruthless run.
>>498750028The thing is. They just made the game harder without nerfing all the guns across the board which is what people have been asking for. Unlike HD2 where they nerfed the weapons to the ground and to the core.All in all redditards will always be subhuman filth
I just want them to make bolters better.
>>498750159Yeah. It seemed harder but not by much.On the other hand, webm related. Can someone explain this? I thought health back perk on las fusil was supposed to be 5% (five), not whatever the fuck this is.
>>498750339Stop trying to correct yourself nigger. If you were the faggot that posted "muh hecking melta gun got nerfed" post, which everyone here can clearly see is what was stated, then you are retarded and have an IQ lower than a pajeet.
Where Volkite.
>>498750270They didn't nerf any fucking guns they are all the same. They just added a new difficulty and made the previous difficulties harder because people kept claiming the game was too easy so they did what they did accordingly. Guns are the same as before the patch they didn't even buff the enemies hp so it will be the same number of shots to take them down as before but they are stronger against you>inb4 muh melta charge!
>>498750565its 5% per kill except they probably broke the cap on it probablyi think it capped out at 30% normally or something right?
>game is now harder>now no one will actually bother playing the Chaos missionsLmao devs
>>4987507792 more weeks
>>498750595I don't understand why you included a picture of yourself with this post
>>498749939>>Enraged Majoris cannot be knocked out of their shielded stance, even by heavy attackStupid as fuck.
>>498750879>I don't understand why you included a picture of yourself with this post
>Lethal Fall of Atreus >train section>but you can only replenish ammo once but there are more wavesThey didn't playtest this
>show off the new DA cosmetics in the trailer, using them during the new mission>do not add any of them in the update in which the new mission releaseswhat the fuck is wrong with them
>>498750946Avatarfagging is a bannable offense
>>498750989>Avatarfagging is a bannable offense
>>498750950This and the Reliquary mausoleum section are gonna suck shit even harder now.
>>498750950>They didn't playtest thisBecause we are the ones that will do it
Is it just me or does the Coordination buff increase our damage while we're close together. Things were absolutely melting on Lethal.
>>498750950Use melee.
HAHAHACOMBAT KNIFE GOT BUFFEDWHAT NOW STRABAN NIGGERGET FUCKED
@498751082only an unhinged person would have all of these saved btwif you check to see if this was you, you're gay lol
>>498750856source
>>4987512452 more weeks
>>498751234>COMBAT KNIFE GOT BUFFEDNoted.
>>498750518What's wrong with bolters? They're basically equivalent to modern day 20mm autocannons.
>>498751234Proof? It's not in the notes.
>mega patch drops>game is still a tact/sniper + their pity carry class of their choicenice game spacekeks
Think I'm fine with most changes but the armour distance thing is total shit
>>498751187Your team is just good
>>498751458>Charged attack perks of melee weapons got buffed of which combat knife was one of them>Combat knife was already the most cracked melee weapon barring jetpack nonsense>Vanguard is the class with the most decked out melee perks in the gameYou do the math
>>498751508darktide-ass coherency system, but worse somehow
>>498750782Not him but isn't the ammo crate change an indirect nerf to all weapons with low ammo counts? It isn't like ruthless has a plethora of ammo box spawns to make up for it.
>>498751484Go back to whatever tranny game you play or don't play and shill for
>>498751508>WAAH TEAMWORK WAHHHLol. LMAO. ROOOFL.
>>498751596>of which combat knife was one of them>one of themsee how your schizo rambling logic falls apart right in the first sentence?
>>498751484I carry as heavy, maybe dont follow the meta and play what you like>but I like to min-max
>>498751719Keep deluding youself while tact and sniper does the actual work heavynigger.
>>498751652next update you'll be losing health if you don't have cohesion so once your ammo is gone you'll have to roly poly in lockstep to get to the lift
>neurothrope on lethal after auspex bopss nerfthis is pure cancer holy shit
>>498751652The ammo change only fucks over low efficiency weapons which already saw no use. It's a non-issue for the meta weapons because you usually have ammo to spare unless you encounter a mid-boss.
>>498751718>He doesn't know >Defaults to the ole reliable of calling others schizosClassic
>>498751663>Sniper supporting from afar while bulwark lock enemies in melee isnt teamwork because, IT JUST ISNT OK
>>498751817My roomate play tactical and he's a shitter, and our third is almost never a sniper. I beat the snipers in ranged damage anyway so seethe bitch
>>498751923Did they change how the shock wave attack works? The one where you roll through it to get to the bubble. It felt like it expanded out faster and took me off guard.
Man lethal is pretty tough with my casual friends, feels bad seeing them get destroyed this hard and not being to carry because I can’t get armour when they’re dead
>>498752057>can’t get armour when team is deadJesus...
>>498752057Shit I didn't even think about that, no more clutching if everyone else goes down lmao.
>>498752057wait is that hwo it works? you don't get armor if someone is incapacitated?
>a devourer scrapes you on the new difficultly >now half heath from full armorI thin the incoming damage was already on the high end before, this is a bit silly
>charged moves like dark blade, full throttle got buffed>combat knife is only available on the two classes with 2 armors points who are more susceptible to get kwabbed by hordes and shootas and rely heavily on parrying for survival when cornered.>chainsword are available on 4 classes but nobody with situation awareness would rely on this move because slow ass animation and enemies can move. And again parrying is too much useful.>power fist may be epic with the buff. Assault and Bulwark chads, rise up!
>>498752007>Uses pablo pub sniper as a referenceDo you go to your local kindergarden and fistfight five year olds as well? Retarded nigger clown.
>speedrunners on lethalGet the fuck out of this difficulty. I cannot believe I'm like three games in and I already see people ignoring everything and sprinting to the checkpoints. Fucking kill yourselves you complete scumbags.
>>498752193Isn't this what they were trying to fix the last time they adjusted them
>>498752114>>498752114>>498752159Nope, when you’re last man standing you’re out of coherency so you can’t gain armour full stop besides maybe a lucky armour boost. It’s pretty much fucking over if they eat shit in a hectic situation and a few ranged enemies are up
>>498751998It isn't hope this helps
>>498752292lol that fucking sucks.
>New content already outWhat?
>>498752208Or you're just wrong pussy lmao
Someone make a new threadNo I will not do it myself
>>498752198>susceptible to get kwabbed by hordes and shootasVanguard has melta for that, for shootas you're mostly safe in the horde with execute iframes. If for some reason your tact or sniper is a drooling retard and not handling those you can zip over to the backline and blast those dakka xenos yourselfThe main thing is that this charged move buff increases vanguard dps against elites and bosses (still not great but it's better than nothing, besides a proper tact snipe combo have terminus damage on lockdown anyway leaving you to specialize in other roles like chaff clear)
>>498752512>you can zip over to the backline and blast those dakka xenos yourselfNot anymore if you need to get armor back.
>my least favorite mutation from vermintide becomes standard at higher difficulties in SM2I am in my worst timeline. I can't do shit about bots and randos running off and breaking cohesion, man, and my friends only play once or twice a week.
>>498752292>Laughs in vanguardStill can't believe that one straban nigger didn't believe me when I said the 3rd pick would be vanguard for comfy + utility when lethal releasesWho was right bitch
I just got home, fellas. How's the new Volkite Pistol?
>>498752552Vanguard can get hp back on executes, between this and melta filling white hp pretty well when you get ticked, he's pretty safe even if there's no armor restore with the new changes
Vanguard is Lethal ez mode. Not because of the melta, because of the self-heal executions and the group CDR. It really doesn't matter if you temporarily get out of Coordination range, you can quickly grapple back anyway. You have to get completely fucked by a boss to actually lose health.
it says you unlock cosmetics from beating lethal but I only see one helmet
>>498752562>at the highest difficulty in SM2ftfyno one played cata for comfy games in VT2 either
>>498752723Two more weeks
>>498752292Lore accurate, no brother left behind. Serves you shitter solo fags right. Just play solo its where you belong.
>>498752723very good in theory
>>498752237Lethal isn't about strategy or tactics. It's about survival. Keep up, motherfucker.
>>498752798I guess that's an upside: finally a reason to play Vanguard
>>498752824You are shitting me, no way they released the new map without the other new stuff right?
>the slavs try to trick me into playing a class with phobos armournice try, Ivan. I'll bring assault to lethal and you'll all just have to live with it
>>498752798Yep I think it's clear by now despite the straban seething squad that lethal meta setup is tact/snipe/vanguardVanguard is the best class for clutching and running down the timer for respawnsHis unkillability is an actual asset there, he also contributes to hording with good old melta as wellCDR, damage boost on grapnel, those are just cherries on top
>>498752807You unlock decals too but it seems to be bugged since I just finished Inferno which should give me pic rel, and it's now in the state where I don't have access to it but I also can't unlock it
>>498749031>level 25 means nothingwrong lmao las sniper is a oneshot kill on headshot and heavy plasma is extremely strong, even the tactical plasma is stronglevels do matter
>>498752512Well, I was not taking in account the abilities of the classes, just stats. Of course as a vanguard you can hook off a enemy or krumping them with the melty or just both. But when I tried to use the charged moves I always got my ass overwhelmed by small gits or big gits and armor can vanish very fast.
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>>498752947Why would you bring a sniper when they cant get ammo back from crate anymoreBulwark is gonna be straight up better for survivability
Do space marines speak high gothic?
>>498752986Weave melta shots in between your heavies every now and then to keep em stunned, i find that it helpsFor terminus enemies, you just draw aggro and be the gunstrike bot to let the tact snipe do their job in peace
>>498751484>bulwark or heavy>pity carrylol I'll take either one of them over you failing to land your stealth headshot on the lictor for the 99th time
>>498753159I'll do that.
>>498753148yes, they speak english.
>>498753048Because as long as flying shitters exist in this game, snipa will never not be meta
I don't think the knee decals from Lethal are actually obtainable yet. They are staying locked for me even though I've done two separate missions.
>general finally diespraise the dark powers
>>498753228No, english isn't a thing in 40k. All terran languages blended together, now there's just two. High gothic, and low gothic. Normies speak low gothic. Nobels speak high gothic. I wonder which one the space marines speak.
>>498753228That's low gothic. High gothic is latin but badly conjugated
>>498753206Ye don't forget you have>Combat knife superior parry window>Perfect parry larger 50% window perk>Melta + class perk of 50% more contest hp refillDon't be afraid to draw aggro on tyrant/carnifex, even if you fuck up and get slapped, one melta blast fills your white hp back up. If you have space, thats when you shank em with the knife to add some damage
>>498753273>flying shittersYou mean spore mines? Anyone can take those. It's strange how the flying nids never fuck with us. They just fly around and eat flak rounds.
>removes the UI on Lethal so you can't see enemies in vicinity or how close you are to a hordeIt's always funny to me when difficulty to most devs just means inconvenience the player with less information, or make enemies sponges and take away your ammo.
>>498753493Considering how many crayon eaters there are rage quitting, it works.
>>498753383>All terran languages blended together, now there's just two. High gothic, and low gothic.Then why do so many characters in 40K speak with distinctly african and pajeet accents? Or scottish in the case of our captain
>>498753438You can't keep up the melta forever. Vanguard ammo doesn't regen. So you have to reload and refill your ammo occasionally.
>>498753574Ultramar is London.
>>498753493My copium is to tell myself that they tried simply adding tons of enemies first, but it couldn't run on consoles so they had to look to other ways of making it harder
>>498753493did they really add a fucking siren so that normies don't miss that a massive wave is coming in order to get rid of the indicator altogether in the next update?
>>498753490I meant the neuthrope boss or extremis, having a sniper turns the encounter into an instant winSometimes watching a tact desperately try to plink away with it with his bolter + 2 bolt pistols from the other two guys is cringe
>>498753574>Why do scots and yanks sound different when they speak the same language?It's quite the conundrum.
>>498753574He is wrong. The two main languages all people must be fluent in are named after the font styles high and low gothic. Other languages exist but because of how annoying or impossible it would be to do it right are simply ignored unless it is plot relevant.
>>498753624With reload cancelling you can squeeze melta reloads between gunstrikes
Ruthless still comfy diff, Lethal for one playthrough on each map only.New decals are niceNew helmet is nice although I wish they'd given you similar stuff for the other pieces too
>>498753818You're close, but not quite there. High gothic is Received Pronounciation British English. That's the language that anyone who wants to travel off-world needs to learn. In addition to that, every community has its own language, called low gothic because over time it got bastardized with the amount of high gothic influences. You cannot communicate in low gothic with people from other planets because it's not the same language, it's justed touted as such as a part of imperial propaganda.
>Straban niggers on suicide watch, lethal difficulty exposed them for the frauds they always wereI love this patch already
mate I will continue to kick vanguards on sight. Go be a nigger somewhere else.
>>498754280>t. red scorpions marine
>>498754186Straban?
>>498754405The heavy character
>straban nigger hosts games because he knows if he doesn't he'll be booted for a vanguard or bulwark insteadkekaroowho was right, ya retarded nigger. Literally everything I said about vanguard utility in lethal turned out to be true but you were all wahh wahhh heavy so gud muh plasma wahhEat shit bitch.
>>498754447What are you talking about? Post score or fuck off. I bet heavies are dumping on you.
So does stuff like pic rel work even outside coherency with the team on lethal? If so assault might be pretty gud now
>>498754186How exactly. Melta is more meta than ever.
calling classes by their character names is retarded. Oh yeah i really care about the rich backstory of melta bitch and other melta bitch.
>>498754571>Trying to falseflagThere's only one heavy nigger and its you, the retarded stubborn clown who jumped up and down in the previous threads when I tried to explain how vanguard will be meta pick for the 3rd slot instead of heavy.Seethe and dilate tranny.Kek, having the last laugh feels great.>P-p-post scoreWhat next punk ass bitch? You gonna try to 1v1 me in street fighter too?
>/sm2g/ back to kicking people because dramaKWAB
>>498754653Because unlike heavy, vanguard isn't a useless fuck outside of their melta
>>498754759Jesus Christ, there must be absolutely nothing happening in your life for something this fucking retarded to be so important to you.
>>498754882The melta is literally all that mattersThe meta is now tact with melta or plasma, heavy with melta or plasma, and sniper with las.Lethal's a joke. No melee allowed.
>>498754759>muh meta>endorses the negro class>calls everyone else a niggerYou're a real winner anon kek
>>498754393kek
>Straban nigger trying to double down
>>498754759You're definitely losing me here.>>498754882Vanguard without melta isn't great.
>people bitching about classesJust play what you want lmao or better yet, use mods so classes don't matter aside from fashion
>>498754882>vanguard isn't a useless fuck outside of their meltaNigga please
Also is nobody gonna make a new thread?
>>498755027>Doesn't know about vanguard advantages to smoothen out runs in lethal>Tries to pass heavy off as metaThe heavy agenda... must be pushed...
NEW BREAD>>498755223
>>498755131the modding discord is freaking out saying invasive mods may never come back since they haven't figured out a way to make them work after the patch
>>498755124>>498755204>HP regen not useful in lethal>Raw survivability with contested hp class buff and best parry windows are not useful for clutchingYou can tell all the heavies are triggered because they can feel the agenda slipping away from them lmaoEven other anons have described vanguard as lethal EZ mode
>>498755247What advantages? Also irrelevant. If your class needs to be in melee its shit in lethal. End of story. All melee is shit in lethal.
>>498754186Laughing at you as a Straban Heavy Bolter main
>>498755483>he cant hang in melee>he's already getting filteredkek, I love new patches
