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"the only pussy payo can pull is fat bitches and nappy headed 2/10 sheboons by lying about this age by 10 years on tinder" edition
https://files.catbox.moe/r0hkn9.mp4
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Retail won hard
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your classic plus, xir
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>>499077849
is that a female gnoll?
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Realistically?
What's the absolute worst case scenario: It's MoP right?
Best case: Official Classic+ announcement?
Most likely what we'll get: Fresh HC server, fresh classic Era server with all of the current era changes like boons in at the start and PvP ranking being much easier. Even further might be them removing the buff/debuff limit. I don't see much past that.
Then after a year of that fresh, they'll do TBC and WoTLK after.
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>>499081906
classic fresh with all the bullshit removed that they've added to era
thats the best case scenario
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>>499081906
my cope:
>We went too far with SoD, making it Wrath-Lite
>We're going to buckle down and develop Classic+ for a few years, make it true to vanilla's style and basically copy turtle (they obviously wont say this but i want them to do that)
>Whilst you wait, give us $80 for the MoP Classic Boost and a Sha-Tiger mount, coming next Summer!
>fresh vanilla-->tbc-->wrath whilst we develop classic+
>perma wrath era realm at the end of that

reality:
>fresh hardcore for sodapoppin and other streamers
>mop announcement, level 85 boosts + sha tiger mount in store
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>>499082497
>perma wrath era realm at the end of that
If they do another fresh server, I'm 99% sure they're going to allow you to copy it over to Era servers. If they do announce a vanilla > TBC > wrath pipeline, they're most likely going to have TBC and WoTLK era servers as well.
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>>499082924
not doing tbc era at the time, i could understand
when we were transitioning from tbc to wrath, the vanilla era realms were a failure, literally less than 10 people online
however during wrath we saw people go back, from literally 10 people to thousands
i really wish they did at least 1 pvp/1pve era for wrath, even do it cross region with NA/EU if pop would be an issue
it would be so cosy, i like the classic world in wrath :3
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>>499081906
classic+ by the current dev team is anything but best case scenario. original wow devs didn't need a year and a half of "test servers" because they understood the fundaments of game psychology. these devs are just retarded and endlessly coping.
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>>499081906
>best case: classic+ by 2024 blizzard
oh you sweet summer child
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>recently started playing SoD
>lvl 60 warrior
>queue into arathi basin
>sheeped for 30s, ice trap for 30s, paladin walks up and one-shots me
>everyone is in BWL gear, even after sitting on somebody for 10s they barely have lost 10% of their health before oneshotting me
probably the worst pvp experience in any game ive played, i have absolutely zero impact in anything and pretty much just couldnt play the game
not for me!
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>>499083554
Reddit
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>>499086776
>PvP
>on SoD
Are you retarded?
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>>499088272
Minigamer brains are not very well developed
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>>499088151
That's your best?
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>>499089050
That's all the retort I need, yeah. Arguing with a redditor is like telling a jeet to clean up so they don't smell so shit
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Classic+ will never happen. Just stop thinking/talking about it.
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>>499090534
>Classic+ will never happen
But TBC released like 17 years ago.
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>>499090502
very interesting analogies
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>>499091149
Wanna kiss?
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>>499093087
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>>499093474
*smooch*
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are the everquest/2 classic equivalents comfy
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>>499082497
>faggotpoppin
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>level 5 paladin with fiery weapon enchant running around starting zone trying to duel level 1s
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>>499103815
jajaja are something else
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>>499081906
>Best case: Official Classic+ announcement?
You are naive if you want Classic+ done by current Blizz devs. Best case is fresh era that resets after 12month-ish.
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>>499095906
recent eq2 classic server is exactly what I thought classic wow was going to be, played almost exclusively by absolutely clueless boomers
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>>499105639
Tl;dr: We're eventually getting fewerchanges vanilla
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>>499115431
sod went too far in few places
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> "WTF WHY DID YOU PULL THAT EXTRA PACK U DUMB TANK"
> pull everything then leave
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>>499122795
when ever I play tank I make sure not to do some faggy risky skips and just fucking pull that one extra pack
for some reason this causes uncontrolable seethe in some people
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>>499123004
>just fucking pull that one extra pack
I'll swear most of the time takes less time that way. I'm positive it actually saves time by average.
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Can you not trick or treat from the innkeepers anymore or what's going on?
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>>499081906
Fresh 19' Classic Vanilla WoW.
Close SoD, HC servers and (yes) Era. When Cata ends, NO MOP. DELETE THE SERVERS. Make EVERYONE play one version of the game. It worked in 19, it'll work again. Stop making a bazillion game modes to satisfy snowflakes (HC andies being the worst offenders). It does nothing but dilute the overall perception of the game as well as detracting from the hype (Cataclysm Classic phase 2/3/4 whatever it is hype?? HYPE!! mid pop servers btw). REALIZE that Era was a mistake. HC servers were a mistake (let the snowflakes hijack some low pop server like they did with the pirate server before official), seasonal servers were a mistake, Wrath and especially Cataclysm was a mistake. Undo the mistakes, delete everything, start f r e s h with Vanilla WoW again. It is the only way to save this sinking ship. No sane person will take this game seriously while it has 4 or 5 different game modes all running at the same time.
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>>499081906
>Best case
fresh banilla
no wbuffs
no gdkps

simple as that
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Sod population is holding steady for the past two months. People love that slop, fatso was right.

Apologize
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>>499138352
Its just vanilla raidlogging with retail class design of course sloppers would love that shit
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>All that it took to save Classic+
Damn... it be like that huh?
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I'm glad Blizzard made this "classic" daycare for all the classic andy's to go into & be toxic asshats to each other so the rest of us can enjoy the game without dealing with this kind of bullshit. Hopefully they can keep these animals pinned up & separated from the rest of the games population. Gave em their own separate forms too where most of their trash takes go. Like a spam filter. The few that manage to get into general WoW population are quarantined with the block/mute/report function until they're yeeted from the game.
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>>499139912
>I'm glad Blizzard made this "classic" daycare for all the classic andy's to go into & be toxic asshats to each other so the rest of us can enjoy the game without dealing with this kind of bullshit.
You have no idea how fucking toxic Era is. There are people sitting at DMF 24/7 trying to get buffs then posting it in discord. Some Classic era players are honestly one step away from committing genocide if given the opportunity.
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naxx gdkp today
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz6P0S-J45M
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You think it would be worth coming back to SoD to finish leveling up a bunch of classes to 60 so that when it closes down I can play any class I want on Alliance Era servers?
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what is the point of this thread? serious question.
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>>499146504
to entertain me all day?

.stayvun
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>class leaders
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>>499146749
ok mages in the class channel, how much food do we have? tank needs int now!
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>>499081906
best case: pull the plug
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Guild meeting this Saturday at 8pm. Attendance is mandatory for all raiders.
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You ARE getting prio on Dragonwrath, RIGHT?
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can i get a qrd on alex? havent kept up with him since his restedxp arc
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>>499149034
recently relapsed. says he wont play again until 2025 but keeps crying for fresh anyways so anything can happen
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The WoW Classic Panel at Blizzcon was so filled with passion and enthusiasm that I had to watch it several times. Compare the panel with anything else Blizzcon had this year and you will see employees that know they're working on something big, they know they will deliver, and they know the community will respond to it.

I won't forget how dead silent the room was for the first 10-15 minutes. I won't forget the uproar the audience had when Aggrend said that they're open to adding cut and unfinished content. But the most massive respect has to go to when he dropped the perfect words: "It's everything we love about Classic, PLUS so much more."

I wanted to address it specially to Aggrend - he's probably one of the most brilliant producers Blizz has ever had, doing his best to reach out to everyone down here and get into the community's thoughts, walking around Reddit or any social media app just to share thoughts, connect with the playerbase and know how they're feeling about the game they're working in. That says a lot about the Classic team and hasn't happened (so actively) in years until now so, again, thank you for taking this so seriously and putting this excitement and this much effort into your craft.

Can't wait to see what SoD brings to the table, it has a really promising future and I'm sure both devs and players will make it go in the right direction.

Faith restored after over a decade! Big thank you!

Blood and thunder!
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>COOOOOOO LIIIIIII CEEREEEEEEE
>SOOL DAAAAAAAA
>REE SONAAA TIII CEREEE
>VITOORIAAAA

https://youtu.be/DUA1B3A1ZnY?t=462
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when are we getting any news about classic i want to play fresh again reeeeeeeeee
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>twitch frog
skippity skip
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Is there alive classic 50\50 pop pvp vanila servers in EU?
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sheenheads ... it's time
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>>499159030
go harass Soda, that fury faggots "leaked" something as much as he could.
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>>499163505
Sup Alex, or Az*mous
tripcode when?
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FRESH
YEP
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>>499163880
mate, im just another faggot like you. Go lurk, something is coming at the start of November.
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>>499164017
don't you have another "cata bad" video to cook?
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why are the official forums filled with retards wanting tbc, who actually wants to play that garbage again?
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fashy und freshy
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>>499081906
It's literally too late for fresh. They killed the community with blueballing shitmodes
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>>499165251
Earning those big glowbux
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>>499146504
This but /wowg/
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>>499165730
Soda delayed his Onlyfangs guild thing for 1 month because supposedly fresh is coming, would be sad if it's only HC fresh which tbf i can't see the reason why would they do only HC fresh.
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>>499166109
rent cost: $0
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>>499166286
I thought the whole point of HC was it was "everfresh" Why would you ever make a new server
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>>499168923
because streamers wanted it
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>>499166441
Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard footing the janbill?
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>>499168997
Guess they want to be carried simps since it's not actually hardcore.
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Post brown hand
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>>499168923
Dunno mate, they want it, maybe some new server/HC rules, maybe economy is fucked and that's the reason why fresh. As long as they don't do only fresh HC server im good. There were some leaks at this point, biggest speculation is that it will be announced on Blizzards "direct" since Blizzcon '24 is canceled this year.
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>>499169532
Don't they usually only do one release at a time? Probably for FOMO coverage
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>>499170259
Eh, we will see. Tbf at the end of the day all they have is to release few new servers for fresh while merging old ones that are low pop.
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>>499077512
Can someone explain who this faggot is? Every time i see someone about him it's always him being a huge faggot, does he have niggerblood in him?
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>>499166109
they use that thread to talk about the game and not once every 24 hours either
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>>499171850
It's North Korean media-tier, give me a break
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>>499172227
what does that mean?
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Sheen got the W today... based...
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>>499173031
literalmente quem
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another bis item
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>>499173031
what did he win? cryboomer of the year award?
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>>499176450
New Naxx WORLD RECORD!!!!!!!!!
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When is this supposed possible fresh announce anyway?
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>>499178216
warcraft direct
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>>499176796
about time they got their head out of their ass and finally started speed running it again
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>>499081906
Worst case scenario would be an MoP classic. We are already far into retail classic. So classic classic doesn't actually have any new activity.

As far as the fresh hardcore server, the only reason that would be interesting is if they're adding the niche challenges and making it a SSF exclusive server. That would actually be fun as hell.

The fresh HC server should be at least a few months away from a fresh era server tho. Not the same time. They would lose a ton of potential money doing it that way. And people would be torn between which one to play.
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>>499179049
>warcraft direct
What the fuck does that mean
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>>499179970
Warcraft Direct is an upcoming stream that will be hosted later in 2024 as part of the 30th anniversary of Warcraft and will cover what is next for the franchise. It was announced at gamescom 2024 during the Opening Night Live on 20 August 2024.
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>>499179970
Oh wait, never mind. The anniversary stream.
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>>499180298
Thanks
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mop classico is a given if the mounts were datamined
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>>499181894
>MoP classic might come after cata classic
Damn Anon, you must be a genius!
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>>499182036
have you seen the absolute state of cata?
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>>499182154
cata is the most popular version of classic right now
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>>499182154
Better than TBCC and WotLK was, obviously, a huge hit. Hell, the only reason they released Cata is to release MoP later.
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>>499183840
vanilla peaked at 400k+ people caca piss is struggling to stay above 100k people
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>>499185374
'right now'
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they should add mindgames to classic+ since they never put it in sod
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>>499185971
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they should just turn classic into something like roblox where everyone can make their own custom servers and games for banilla
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bros... BROS. if fresh doesnt drop in 2 weeks i might be too busy to play
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Is SoD leveling still just spamming incursions from 50-60 or do I actually have to do some leveling or is there some new mummery I can do?

All I can give you is this dwarf in exchange for information.
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>>499185374
>polish brown reading comprehension
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>>499188540
no they nerfed them so you can only do them once a day and below level 50 only. nobody does low level dungeons on soddie so you have to quest all the way to 60
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>>499081906
classic+ wont change shit. People will get bored after 6 months and then ask for something else
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>>499191495
so the solution is simple fresh every 6 months
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>>499193809
the server resets as soon as someone hits level 60. imagine the kino
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>>499105639
>Best case is fresh era that resets after 12month-ish.
12 months is far too short for a classic run.
It should be three years and have the phases even more spread out.
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>>499175690
But maitoz quit wow, found an aryan dutch gf and had a baby. imo he won at the end. all of that while maze slaves like laty, tetsu or monkeynews haven't changed since 2019
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>>499195617
wouldn't people just stay at level 59 and complete all the content?
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>>499195867
Imagine you're about to kill ragnaros and some based troll hits 60 just to fuck with the entire server
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>>499193809
Kys.
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SoD is fucking trash
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>>499200395
let aggrend cook
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>>499200395
The Black Affix is tearing my guild apart.
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>>499200779
what happened sis?
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>>499200832
It's not so much that people are retarded or bad players, people simply do not care to read or to be bothered by bosses that require more than 1 mechanic. Also, the bosses in SoD are absolute trash because they are a buggy mess. SoD devs is Blizzard's C team.
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>>499200997
well at least you guys get updated every 2 months or so ... imagine being a cata player and being stuck in t11 for six months
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>>499201657
My dude, we warned you. You didn't listen.
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>>499200997
>It's not so much that people are retarded or bad players, people simply do not care to read or to be bothered by bosses that require more than 1 mechanic.
that would make them retarded or bad, anon
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>>499201801
Do you still care about parsing high? I just don't have the energy anymore to commit to the game like I used to.

Is one really bad when he's not even trying? But could if he wanted?
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>>499201950
how do you not just naturally parse high playing classic? its not like retail where you can actually press the wrong buttons at the wrong time
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>>499202113
SoD is retail.
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>>499202113
addons play the game for you on retail though
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>>499200395
No need to state the obvious.
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>>499201657
>imagine being a cata player and being stuck in t11 for six months
Isn't this how long the tier should go for?
What's the point in doing a classic version of an expansion and not properly following the timelines.
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>>499195617
Once KT dies so speedrunning would actually mean something. Get to be the only guild to actually clear the final boss. Some guild getting cucked and reset mid-pull because they're just a little too slow would be hilarious.
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>>499202313
I felt the same about weakauras in classic
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>>499165251
wtf is this ai right
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Reminder that freshfags are mentally ADHD fomo autists.
Fresh could literally happen right now, and by end of the week they'll be crying for a new fresh because they rolled a class/race they don't like and want to reroll, but don't want to be "behind the curve".
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>>499153720
Home.
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>>499202246
can you fly in sod? and do mythic+? and play an evoker?
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right below >>499205736
persisent weird fag
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reminder that anyone against fresh is a sunk cost swiper that's been eternally mazed on a 6 year old naxx server. or plays cata/sod (lmao).
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always funny when the fresh junkie thinks he can call others mazed
simply lmfao
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Two below >>499205867
Samefag
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Hmm...
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I got the itch to play Classic. How do the servers work now? Does anyone even play anymore? I don't care about playing some gimmick version of the game.

Which American server is good?
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>no you
try again
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still spamming and replying instantly
lmfao
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>>499190663
Really? Piss...
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i accept your concession.
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>sissy girls replying to each other indirectly
fags
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what are some of the merits of being a ret chad?
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>>499210397
Being forced to wear a dress
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>>499171462
he's french canadian. that explains everything you need to know.
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>grey level undead priest named "horsegurl"
Yep, thats a camp.
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>>499169532
Why even allow auction house/trading pre-60? It's super gay that you can twink yourself at the auction houes and grab enchants.
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>>499205736
Freshes should happen often. The best part of classic is leveling, ranking, and doing MC. Reset it after that.
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>>499238151
no you can't just do that you must let me gank you with my rmt'd t3
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>>499238151
Typical pserver rat who has deluded himself into believing shitty slav servers dying after a month is a good thing.
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>>499232580
I am living rent free in your head lol
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seethe poorfags
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>>499238151
thats why fresh should only be 6 months at max before it resets
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>>499255002
>thats why fresh should only be 6 months at max before it resets
100% this. Hopefully Blizzard finally has figured this out.
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>>499246739
You are brown, so naturally you can't afford rent
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>>499247148
>Warlock
Are you that guy that I convinced to play warlock a month or two ago? You'd think spamming CoR/CoE on every mob would teach you humility.
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>>499247148
Your parents say they embrace your sexuality, but secretly they are disgusted by you.
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>local man promises to resub for classic / SoD after beating free versions of SH2 and God of War
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What is the most boomer game in existence?
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wait why is gdkp bad again?
its the only system that actively rewarded you (with a lot) by simply participating
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>>499272390
Doom probably
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>>499278315
>wait why is gdkp bad again?
It's not bad per se but the problem is that it's heavily linked to card swiping and gold sellers/bots.
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>>499278928
yea so actively ban bots and don't sell tokens/gold ingame
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>>499279229
Whoa, nobody thought about that before!
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>>499279229
>yea so actively ban bots and don't sell tokens/gold ingame
Mate, remind me what happened to Soda when he did in the most obvious way and Blizz "caught" him?
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>>499279565
>banning your most important eceleb
that's just bad business
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>Sniped about 1500g worth of mats from indo bot farmers transferring shit over the neutral AH
Feels good.
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>farming gold in seasonal
lmfao?
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>>499281615
Indonesians running bot farms or farming herbs by hand unironically make more money than doctors and attorneys.
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>>499281780
i also read twitter and reddit like a blank drone
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>>499282012
We're in agreement then.
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>>499279664
>Rules for thee and not for me
We both know it happened before and it will happen again, 99% of other players would get ban.
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>>499282307
they should just put the wow token in all versions of classic
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>horde is so dead literally all they can do is grief people in the open world who don't even care to fight back
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>>499283220
>Rolled on the PvP server
>Gets PvP'd
>Complains on a basket weaving forum
Lol, lmao even.
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>>499283432
Sure... "pvp"
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>>499283527
Why did you roll on a PvP server then? PvE is literally a click away. You can't expect fair fights in a 20 year old game that acts as a daycare for mentally unwell individuals.
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>>499283718
Because all the pve servers are dead.
Why is it only hordemonkeys doing this shit anyway?
Always running away when it isn't a massive advantage for them as well. Faction full of shitheads.
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>>499284331
>Why is it only hordemonkeys doing this shit anyway?
It's not.
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>>499284527
It is. I never see alliance doing this shit at any of the max level neutral zones. Some shitters in horde unironically spend the entire evening camping longshore so you can't go to the Zanza Island unless you assemble a raid then they run away and try to kill anyone late to click the mage portal once the raid is leaving.
Never can you go into Blackrock Mountain without corpsewalking 3+ times because some shitter gank squad is sitting at the doors.
And fuck Blizzard for fixing logout skips. The logout skip to BRD entrance was god tier.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was some faggot horde player on the classic team fixing anything that gives alli players some quality of life vs horde griefers.
Even areas like the Diamond Flask buff NPC get griefed by some horde faggot despite it being a general agreement between the guilds of both factions that it's the one place you don't grief people or you end up blacklisted.
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>>499285214
Everything you just typed out, alliance do but in horde zones. Nearly every griefer on NA Whitemane is an alliance player.
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>>499284527
>faction with female human rogues is not griefing
you never played horde
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>tranime pedo
ez fat skip
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actually i don't want fresh
the current wow community is dead
let them stay on retail and mop
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>>499285935
I'm literally a horde main that just rerolled from playing alliance. Alliance are 100% more degenerate than horde, at least on NA servers. Most of the level 60 griefers are alliance.
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>>499285859
On firemaw it's all horde. I don't remember the last time i've went to a chokepoint area like the entrance to BRM and it wasn't horde occupied. Same shit at the bridge between duskwood and stranglethorn vale.
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>>499284628
There's nothing fresh about Fresh anymore.
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>>499284628
>Fresh announcement soon!
>Streamer fags leak some info
>Fresh most likely
>Uh oh, it's only fresh HC
Im audi, fuck this shit..
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>>499286919
it's not hc fresh lol belular confirmed it on his video, there's a new fresh era realm and likely tbc/wotlk era are also on the table
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>>499287134
>belular confirmed it on his video
gimme timestamped vid please
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>Blizzard: "No more changes to era". *removes might of stormwind*
>Also Blizzard: Fixes logout skips, out of bounds areas, adds cata ui, intentionally breaks /click macros
Bunch of retards, the lot of them.
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did they disable deranking with dhks in sod? im 20% into rank 9, got baited into killing a civ, but my rank didnt change
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What is he thinking right now?
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It was a shitshow of course!
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>>499288313
>>499288221
Asmongold unironically lost.
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>>499288313
B4BBC
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>anniversary event in 2 days and classic is getting nothing
magnitudes
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>disc priest in my guild is asking if she's gonna get the legendary staff
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>>499289638
SAY IT WITH ME NOW
>NO
>CHANGES
Changes on Era are akin to Hitler committing the Holocaust, okay?
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>>499289695
Is there anything more pathetic than begging for legendaries?
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>>499290135
Being the best player and not getting it because it's going to the wife/GF of GM and/or token woman of the guild.
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>>499290937
your prob if you don't instantly /gquit if that happens.
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>>499290016
>the server itself is a change
so you dont want it then or is that the joke
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>>499290937
To be fair, Thunderfury will not be very good during the next phases.
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>>499291290
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali/clip/BlatantUninterestedPeanutGingerPower-tAZP0T8hBI5_d8C4?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
You tell me.
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>>499291553
why are mutts so obsessed with JUST hitler and nazi germany? do they know there are worse people from history out there?
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>>499291773
>US education
>US most important ally is Isr*al
>Holocaust propaganda shoved down our throats from 1st grade
We don't know any better unfortunately.
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>>499291773
name 1
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>>499291993
true, some of the worse people i was referring to include {them}
>>499291773
stalin
mao zedong
idi aman
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>>499292181
>stalin
Slavicnigger
>mao zedong
chinknigger
>idi amin
literal nigger

How about you name one that's worse that isn't from a 3rd world shithole (at the time).
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>>499287134
>it's not hc fresh lol belular confirmed it on his video, there's a new fresh era realm and likely tbc/wotlk era are also on the table
Source?
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>>499292440
>it doesnt count
lol?
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>>499292440
sorry i forgot hirohito too or does he not count either
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>>499293119
hes right nobody is going to think about these literal whos
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>>499289695
true chads buy their legendaries in gdkps
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>>499290016
I don't want world buffs in raids because it's anti-fun garbage.

I'd absolutely be fine with world buffs in previous tier raids as a compromise though.
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>>499295813
>I don't want world buffs in raids because it's anti-fun garbage.
Why, explain.
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>>499287134
>>499287346
>>499292456
>still nothing
why would someone lie on the internet... why...
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>>499295813
they tried this in SOM. everyone hated it
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>>499296257
not that guy but theyre various tedious and boring to get, especially when you have a lot of alts
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>>499297850
they removed wbuffs while making raids harder at the same time, which was retarded classic raids should be easy
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>>499298017
So its the acquisition you have a problem with, not actually having them in raids?
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>>499296519
at this rate i'll see release of Half Life 3 before Blizz gives us fresh era server.
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>>499298312
wowfags really think they're unique and the only ones being fucked about a video game release, but they forget about Half life, Silkson and Bloodborne
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>>499298258
yeah a better solution would be to just nerf raids and get rid of wbuffs since wbuff trivialize raids anyway
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>>499298849
If they wanted to give us fresh it would take like one minute to press a button and reset one of the existing servers, it just makes no sense why they wouldnt do it its free money with 0 effort.
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Season of the Gladiator
focus on pvp with frequent balancing patches
forced faction balance
give rewards for raiding settlements, cities in the endgame
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>>499298861
You understand that the reason people like wbuffs isn't because it trivializes raids (it does), but because they make classes actually fun to play? Try playing a fury warrior with and without wbuffs. Or a fire mage without enough crit to keep an ignite up with just 3 mages scorching. It's not fun.
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>>499299034
>it just makes no sense why they wouldnt do it its free money with 0 effort.
it's not free money, it's a waste of resources because in reallity, the freshfags makes up like 5% of the entire WoW playerbase
They're making more money out of Cata's token and retail, and soddy is just the result to keep the vanilla only fags in check. Which is why they're getting HC fresh on november because it has more retention than an average era fresh
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>>499298849
what >>499299034 said, merge some old low pop tealms, free up a server and put new realm on it. 0 effort for relative good profie.
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>>499299216
>Which is why they're getting HC fresh on november because it has more retention than an average era fresh
>HC fresh
HC is fresh by design, fuck you on about?
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>>499299379
>HC is fresh by design, fuck you on about?
Why do you think all the classic wow grifters were hyping an HC fresh project in october, but they suddenly postpone it to november without an exact date and also refusing to say why?
I'll tell you why: one of them spilled the beans weeks ago
https://www.twitch.tv/knut/clip/BlightedUnusualTermitePJSugar-Ft-SsFJatM8VHACW
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>>499299216
>maintaining dead servers like theyre doing right now is better than just pressing a button to reset them and have people play on them

???
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>>499299141
so just give wbuffs as you zone into a raid then
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>>499299553
>Eeermmm it's about the effort, it's just one button, why don't they just do it
maybe because there's not a big demand for it? other than the small percent of eternally addicted junkies that'd cry for another fresh 2 months in if they actually release one?
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>>499299547
Yea yea i know about Soda delaying Onlyfangs for 1 month. Mind you, these are the same people that swiped so badly that they fuckedup whole realm economy AND when Blizz caught them none of them got banned. After their MC raid went bad the whole thing fell apart same as the HC scene while Era servers were still going strong.
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>>499299768
how hard is it to just reset a single server? even if theres no big demand for it, its better than 0 people
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>>499299141
The people who hate worldbuffs are shitters who never get invited to raids higher than a BWL SR because they're slackers who think worldbuffs are difficult to collect.
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>>499300101
>just delete people's characters in a server
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>>499300101
no need to reset a single server, just low pop ones and open a new fresh one. Classic is more than 5 years now, you ain't fucking up economy with merge at this point. Releasing a new fresh server with phases is another thing, the main reason why people want fresh era server.
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>>499300528
just merge the low pop ones*
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>>499300528
>>499300692
>just merge
were you under a rock when they did that for SoD and how everyone hated that decision?
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>>499300809
Mate, SoD released BWL few weeks ago while Classic endgame has been out for years now. Massive difference and reason why SoD merger was hated.
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>>499300282
ahh yes the nonexistent characters on a server nobody plays
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>>499300979
>ermm actually people will definitely enjoy that one because uuhh... because they're old yeah!
nintendo needs to hire you asap
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>>499301165
still has characters registered
they just simply can't do that without asking or verifying. this isn't a pserver where the devs can go on a powertrip if they feel like
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Why is there so much impotent seething against fresh? Just let people have fun.
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>>499301201
stop acting like a dishonest cunt, you are arguing against logic of merging servers that have been running on p6 for years now vs seasonal servers that just started their raiding scene.
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>>499301395
>disagree = seethe
ah
also you can apply that same logic with other wow versions
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>>499301528
>>499301361
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>>499301528
*crybooms*
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>>499302050
>they just simply can't do that without asking or verifying
And? Everytime they merge they simply announce the date and give you an option, either go A or B realm.
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>>499302326
>Everytime they merge
You say that as if they do it often
they've done it once and people hated it
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>>499302262
>*crybooms*
>faggot rather supports idea of fresh HC streamer realm instead of Era fresh
Take Soda' dick out your mouth.
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>>499302596
>>faggot rather supports idea of fresh HC streamer realm instead of Era fresh
uuh yeah i totally said that
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>>499302535
>they've done it once and people hated it
they've done that multiple times. People hated SoD merger for obvious reasons.
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>>499301361
so what just transfer them away or delete them because nobody plays there anyway too bad so sad
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>>499302742
>they've done that multiple times.
When?
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>>499302917
around pic related.
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>>499302916
>just do it lol, my word my say
good thing you're not in charge
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>>499303018
Oh it's you
I thought you quit the game by now
Regardless what you're talking about is server connections, not merge. Those are complete different things.
You're talking about shit that happened YEARS before classic wow 2019 released. There was a merge back in original Cataclysm, and what do you know, people hated it because not only had the server shut down for hours because of maintenance, but because it fucked up the realm with a massive influx of players, causing lag, name change issues with people's characters (don't forget that people have at least 5 characters in each account) so imagine how many had to change their shit
Your screenshot is from Dragonflight, and there was never anything about server merges in that timeline. Again, you're probably thinking about Realm-Connections, which it technically its not the same.
Now if that's the one approach you wanted to have for a fresh era server then sure, they can just put dead realms into one big cluster then, but that's a cluster, not a merge.
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>>499303685
>I thought you quit the game by now
I did, i'll return if fresh Era releases. I never played past Wotlk.
>Your screenshot is from Dragonflight
It's not. Eitherway, more than half of my chars got moved from servers that do not exist anymore to servers that are medium pop now, mind you, without me getting any email from OG ICC release onwards.
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>>499303018
>>499303685
Nevermind, it's from BFA, but the point still stands
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>>499304080
Lot of servers just get a name change to keep up with the current events, yours probably got hit
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>>499304082
Might add just since we are talking about it, on EU, 2 servers got shutdown in Vanilla, one of them had people moved to Daggerspine. That i remind fondly since i was maining on Daggerspine at the time, '05ish.
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>>499304080
Wait, does cataclysm have the new character models?
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>>499304572
>19 years ago this happened
come on dude
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>>499304785
>upgrade to BFA
most intelligent polish brown
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Fresh after SoD is a pipe dream.

They will announce a new Season and it will be akin to what SoD was.

The only thing you can wait for at this point is TBC SoD and Wrath SoD.

You are fucking delusional if you think otherwise.
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>>499304945
No reason for me to lie, im being serious. I like to share ancient shit with faggots that weren't around at the time.
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>>499305187
I believe you, but it's completely irrelevant for you to bring up ssome shit that happened literally decades ago
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>>499305164
I agree, I don't think I can ever get used to vanilla again after SoD. For all it's flaws, the gameplay it's way better.
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>>499305394
Yea but point being is that it did happen and it happened numerous times hence why we are talking about it. We all know that Blizz changed drastically in the span of the years, no point debating that tho i've been around long enough that i can safely say it happened thus not falling for tricks of anons saying that i don't know what im talking about.
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>>499305676
>it happened so it should happen again
Times change, move on brother. If you can't find enjoyment in current wow, just do something else.
Why drag your feet around something you clearly don't like anymore while pretending to be someone important
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>>499305942
I'm just waiting for fresh Era while lurking. I have few bwl+ geared chars on Era but i have no interest jumping back in with realms being as old as they are.
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>>499306767
And once you hit 60 in era then what?
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>>499301395
because it would pull players from whatever dogshit version of the game they are playing lol
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>>499296257
Vanilla was balanced around not having these buffs, it's why Classic, SoD, and invariably the future Classic+ obliterated all their raid content with minimal effort, even the shitters easily managed it.
This problem only exasperates itself when you try and balance class / specs like with SoD. If Classic+ saw the underperforming classes rebalanced and all the Wbuffs were allowed in, it would be difficult to balance the old and any new content properly.

If it were just fucking Dragonslayer or a slightly nerfed Dragonslayer (and maybe Blessing since Horde lack Paladins) I'd happily compromise because it's not annoying to obtain and, by itself, not the end of the world balance wise. But when you stack jujus, DM:N, Felwood, and the consumes along with BoK for Alliance you just become absurdity manifest when it's slapped onto 40 people.
I posit this question to you, if a tier 1 raid group is able to punch up into Naxx 40 because they stacked world buffs, completely skipping T2 and T2.5, is it working as intended?

At a bare minimum you would agree the other world buffs are tedious to obtain yes? Wouldn't you rather spend that time doing anything else? Leveling an alt, PvP, gathering mats for your consumes, farming dosh, anything? It isn't quite gacha tier annoyance but it sure fucking feels like it sometimes.
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>>499308303
im only interested in fresh though and will only play fresh, how is that le pulling players if some players arent playing at all?
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>>499308703
that's why you're not seething, and in fact looking forward to it!
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>>499308604
>At a bare minimum you would agree the other world buffs are tedious to obtain yes?
No. I enjoy world buffing autism.
>Wouldn't you rather spend that time doing anything else? Leveling an alt, PvP, gathering mats for your consumes, farming dosh, anything?
Why is my enjoying my time gathering wbuffs somehow less valuable than any of the stuff you listed above?

The only answer I would concede on is that it's not fun when you don't have them (aka you die, or you wipe), anything else is cope and automatically makes me think you're a lazy fuck. Your answer is that you don't want to spend time outside of raid getting them, what the fuck is the point of gear then? Wbuffs and gear both increase your damage, healing throughput, tankiness etc. Some gear grinds (lets take earthstrike for example) take over 10 hours of grinding and that's for a miniscule amount of DPS over other available trinkets like HoJ/Blackhand's Breath. That time that you would spend getting ES, you'd be able to fully buff 10 times over. Why is one method of increasing your DPS not as valuable in your eyes as the other?
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>i want world buffs because its so heckin fun stomping everything

just say youre a shitter who wants easy mode
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>>499311327
>i want world buffs because its so heckin fun stomping everything
Not at all. I would love it if they increased the HP on bosses by double. The point of wbuffs on certain classes is that it increases APM substantially. Warrior and mage for example.
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>>499311480
>Not at all. I would love it if they increased the HP on bosses by double
then dont use world buffs
>The point of wbuffs on certain classes is that it increases APM substantially. Warrior and mage for example.
then play retail or soddie you can have your apm autism there
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>i want bosses to scale up to me if i have world buffs
so what's the fucking point of having world buffs if it's going to take the same amount of time to kill a boss?
holy shit 'nillers are in some real shit today
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>/ourschizo/ is now posting aislop without substance
damn, you (yes, you, because I know you browse this board) must be really bored huh
i thought you moved on
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>>499311619
>then dont use world buffs
You're completely missing the point. World buffs change how much fun I have on my class, what part of that don't you understand?
>then play retail or soddie you can have your apm autism there
I am playing SoD, I'm having a lot more fun on it than i am on Era.
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>499313350
stay mad, slob. i own your soul
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>>499314341
>>499313350
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>>499307625
They cry for a new fresh because they are mentally ill pserver rats.
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>>499313469
>World buffs change how much fun I have on my class
How do they change how much fun you're having? You see number go up and it makes you happy, even if you're spending less time in a boss fight?
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>>499315627
>Warrior
Higher APM through higher rage generation.
>Mage
Higher crit means guaranteed big ignites can be rolled for the entirety of a fight through scorch spam.
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>>499315809
You don't need to raid for that, you can just go hit a target dummy
>there's no dummies in vanilla
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=11446/gordok-spirit
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https://youtu.be/QpTrRrcf_fY

new troon just dropped
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>>499315946
Huh?
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>>499315809
>MUH SLIGHTLY FASTER BUTTON PRESSES
Classic isn't for you
Gb2 retail
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>>499316240
>*crybooms*
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>>499315809
You're an ADHD retard spamming one button with or without wbuffs.
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>>499310660
If I spend 7 hours obtaining a better trinket that I'm going to be using for several months it's a 1 time deal that pays off in time.

I'm going to be spending an hour+ every week per character collecting wbuffs on my main and my alt then it's an annoyance every single week, forever, that I can't do in a one and done style, these comparisons are not the same.

>lazy fuck
I had 4 60s in era by the time BWL released, one of them on a different server with a different faction. I mained Healers specifically because nobody gave a rats ass that I didn't go with most of the world buffs.

Even for a double nigger like me who clearly has too much free time, world buffs are exceedingly annoying, if I can spend that time doing anything else I would. PvP, AV rep grind, gearing an alt, leveling an alt, gathering and crafting my consumables, fucking ANYTHING.

There is enough bullshit for a DPS to grind or farm professions with each week that doesn't include stupid fucking jujus, felwood, blasted lands bullshit, or DM:N reruns for the 50th time, and god help you if you're on a PvP grind because you won't have fucking time at all.
You want to know who's screams I heard the loudest? When some DPS fucking steals aggro and gets 1 tapped, absolute stressful lamentations, because they wasted their fucking time on buffs they lost and additional time on the mountain of consumables they'll need to grind more of in the future.

If you guys want to be stress magnets in your games, fine, but everyone else plays video games to enjoy themselves. Grinding Strath for my stupid healing dress multiple times for multiple characters will never annoy me like world buffs do. Probably why TBC and Wraith basically didn't have that non-sense in raids.

>Your answer is that you don't want to spend time outside of raid getting them, what the fuck is the point of gear then?
>what is the point of gear
To deal more damage in 100% of the content, with or without buffs. Questionable take...
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>>499316704
>*zoomzooms*
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>>499317340
>I mained Healers specifically because nobody gave a rats ass that I didn't go with most of the world buffs.
Healsissy, your opinions are EXTREMELY difficult to take seriously. You won't know how fun world buffs are unless you're either tanking or DPSing without them. Your healing throughput is fucking meaningless. You know what you do when you have too much healing and nothing to heal? You bench healers.
I'm glad you found your niche but some people are a little more ambitious and enjoy the minutia that goes into doing well as a DPS/tank and by some I mean the majority of MMO players. Just play a single player game if you wanna be a lazy shitbag, no one will judge you for it there and you won't be hindering anyones fun and enjoyment by playing that way.
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retail won so hard it's not even funny. you boomer faggots sure were smug when covid had people playing this dogshit so it's only fitting
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>>499317943
Nigger you're a DPS warrior so just stfu like lmao
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>>499318591
Like every banilla apologist, he plays the brown class and behaves like a brown IRL.
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We need fresh tbc, so I can finally get gladiator on my druid
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the filtering was too numerous. we'll never get another filtering crusade again
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>>499317943
>healsissy
I press a bigger variety of buttons than a Vanilla DPS ever will.
I need more reaction time when people fuckup than a DPS ever will.
I have to know the fight better than a DPS for preventative shielding and healing.
In PvP I have the hardest role by far in addition to painting a huge target on my back.
Timing is everything when it comes to healing CDs or gaining mana back from 5s ooc rules, I don't get to slam Deathwish or AR off CD like you do.
Conserving mana by using specific lower ranked heals to top people off means I need to rub at least a couple of braincells together.

You pushing 1 and 2 over and over again means nothing to me, because shielding the stupid fuck who pulled aggro just before he pulls aggro takes more time, effort, and foresight than anything you need to do.

I would absolutely love to play a DPS because outside of having to bring 1 million consumes and buffs, I'd get to turn my brain off from time to time and ungabunga smash things. Your role is TIME CONSUMING, not difficulty.
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>>499315964
wheres the of
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>>499319993
Put on the dress and prep your bussy. If you play well, daddy will give you a post-raid reward.
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>>499317750
>no u
cute
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page 10 someone make a post OH MY GOD this game is dead
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>1 filtered IP
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I'm still upset by how many DW unholy DKs there were in Wrath classic that were straight up using the 2h build and rotation and only doing ~1.5k dps
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its crazy how much better wrath is than vanilla
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its crazy how much better the vanilla community is than any other version of the game
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>>499338112
Vanilla has
>swipers and boostees

Retail has
>swipers, boostees and furry erpers

Yeah, vanilla wins
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>>499338112
is that why it has actual sex offenders like skarm and rich
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>>499338562
>SoD
no swipers because GDKP is banned
>HC
Boosting is possible but not meta since you can't group with anyone too much higher level than you. Plenty of swipers but they die and lose their shit so who cares.

Vanilla(ish) stays winning
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>>499339193
>its against the rules so it doesnt happen
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>>499339604
I can say with 100% certainty that GDKP isn't even 10% as common as it would be if it weren't banned. That drop off is going to heavily discourage swiping
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>better community
https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali/clip/DifficultKnottyCaterpillarStinkyCheese-eTA78ByYvvZq5yKK
lmfao
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>only caster with above 90 median
>4th on legendary staff after gm and blue parse officers
fookin hell lads might aswell go gdkp or join a better guild
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>>499340843
I bet you also think orange man good
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>>499341062
>unsolicited amerimutt politics
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>>499341115
>not denying it
lmao
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Voting either is a vote for Israel anyway
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Israel is our greatest ally. Wow players will understand this after Kamala's WoW ingame rally.
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Well, I think now is the good time to start playing Cata, isn't it? Still alive and the best patch is coming out soon
So help me to choose my main, anon.
Just something chill from S or A+ tier (3rd+4th phase) And even in the MoP maybe.
Something in demand, not gigapopular, so that people would look for and want me in the raid (it's important, most likely I'll be without a guild)

My priority from the current tier-list :
1) Warlock - I want it, i like the class and DoT gameplay, he is on fire in Cata and MoP. Small population and very useful utility and buffs. But what about 3rd and 4th phase? Still demo? I don't like pet-based class, and the rotation is hard.
Idk how hard it will be for me to play and manage pets, so I doubt it
2) Sham - very chill and beautiful class, i like elem and even rsham. Ez and useful. But i'm not sure how hard to manage totems and shams are very popular (after the druids and paladins). Sometimes I'll be forced to be resto, isn't? I have almost no experience. And how they feel in 3rd/4th and MoP? Usually, at first they're in the top, but after 1-2 patch - in the trash, I've heard a lot of crying about their fate from players who have a shaman as a main.
3) DK - in WOTLK have FDK as a main, I was advised to use it here coz I like vanilla furywar. A lot of fun, but now UDK rules, FDK just average, as can i see. UDK.... Hard rotation, and melee. Sounds not good.
War - fury was funny, but now only arms are good. Idk anything about it, useful and simple, but melee, stance mechanics and wars are usually not needed. Maybe kind of hidden gem?
Shp - love chill and ez DoT gameplay, u don't need control anything, only your character. But i hate priest, hymns and other stuffs. Average DPS.
Boomkin - cool class, a little bit boring, but i like him gamedesign. But average DPS, forms mechanics and i'll forced to be resto too. Looks like... worst version of shaman?
Surv hunt - simple and useful, but pet-based class and shooting mechanics...
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>Start playing any iteration of classic
>Get to the barrens because horde player
>Lose all motivation
Why is it such a shit fucking zone, I dont wanna do Eastern Kingdoms either because Silverpine/Hillsbrad are fucking cringe too.
I havent once completed the barrens because between it and stonetalon and a bit of ashenvale basically all my content from level 10 to 34 are there. If I have to listen that FUCKING FLUTE ONE MORE TIME IM GONNA FUCKING KILLMYSELF.
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>SoD of sodomy has retardin as top tier class
>Shaman is doodoo feces tier
>4channies (soldiers of the bbc enslaved by lefty und stale pve) adore SoDie now
xD
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JAVELS GYM BRAPPER
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>>499353243
Hell yeah brudder, Molten Front dailies are the best
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>>499358006
Silverpine's fun thoa
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>>499358006
Have you considered not being a no shoe nigger?
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>>499358006
Barrens is kino mr. human enjoyer, sorry about your brownness and that horde doesn't have pali to "play" ret as
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>>499307625
>And once you hit 60 in era then what?
Play as normal, problem is that in '19 i played until phase2 and afterwards i didn't touch the char until Era comeback/somewhere around WotLK classic, i think ie. Era was in phase6 for some time. I also skipped TBC classic. Not that i was burnt out or anything, i was just working abroad as expat and didn't have the time.
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>>499358006
Human enjoyer here, Elwynn > Westfall > Loch Modan > Early Redridge > Darkshore > Late Redridge > Duskwood is just too kino.
It's by far the most enjoyable leveling experience, even with all of the travelling.
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>>499358006
>alliance zones: amazing zones with great storylines
>horde zones: ooga booga mudhuts where every quest is kill 15 boars just because

imagine being a hordecuck lmao
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So when are they giving alliance shamans and horde paladins in SoD?
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Never, retoilet
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>>499381382
>alliance zones: want to be a RPG and fails, boring replayability
>horde zones: boar grind zugkino
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>>499381792
In SoD TBC ofc.
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>>499381792
sorry too complicated to code for the small indie company
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why did they do it, why did they go yo cata
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>>499383202
>boring replayability
alliance 1-60 leveling is probably the biggest human time dump in video game history due to how many times people have replayed it
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I want to look at the Cataclysm, refresh my memory, finish with all 25 normal + a couple of HM.
Is it worth starting now? What is the situation with the online on Gehennas/Firemaw?
How fast does the RFD search take? Is it impossible to How hard is it to get a pre-raid and find some raids?
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>>499399376
it's easy. you can level to 85 really fast and gearing is fast as well, firelands is in 2 weeks
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>can buy the sinestra cloak from a vendor
that's it im skipping raid this week
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man who fucking cares about aq40 and naxx at this point? 40 years manchildren swipers maybe? idk. just make a fresh x1 no changes server and reset the realm after 1 month of bwl. the first half of vanilla is by far the best thing about wow
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>>499353243
bump anons
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>>499402586
Create new character
Level up
Do MC
Do BWL
there you have it
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>>499402846
if you start now don't play a caster because you wont be getting the legendary staff. just play melee, UH is pretty good, Ret is good, SV is good
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>>499402884
>do mc with 26 random naxx geared brown faggots nuking everything without need of world buffs or even consumables
hell yeah playing on progressed realms is so fun!
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>>499403214
You had your chance in the Deviate Delight project
You had another chance with the Celebras project with the king of Cryboomers
Just because you got filtered by AQ and Naxx and you're slow doesn't mean everyone else needs to wait for you
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>>499403580
>le hecking streamer grift rerolling on yet another full progressed realm!
kys zoom zoom. if it's not an official fresh realm or a vanilla 1.12.1 pserver then i don't give a fuck
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>>499403840
>le streamers boogeyman, i want the rainbow unicorn option instead
you do you, junkie
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4 new schizo posts from /ourschizo/ - you know where
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>>499402586
unironically they should just skip to tbc after bwl
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unironically they should just skip to tbc after bwl
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So is there announcement shit today since it's WoW anniversary or nah? I'm busy so I can't really do anything.
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>>499403935
>f r e s h
>mc
>bwl
>kara
>tk
>black temple
>sunwell
>ulduar
>icc
>reset the realm
the perfect eternal fresh
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>>499404119
Yeah for retail lmfao, they get all the goodies while classic gets fresh HC
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>>499402586
The ideal, debatable tho, would be make a classic prog server ala vanilla>tbc>wotlk which last 1/1/1 years, afterwards reset. Timeframe is debatable. As to what happens to chars, free char transfer to existing era server or delete.
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>its another episode of addicts coming up with their amazing unique ideas for fresh servers
https://careers.nintendo.com/job-openings/
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>>499404119
Nobody knows tbf, announcment is supposed to be made on WoW Direct/this years canceled Blizzcon. Dunno if they announced when exactly is that going down, i might be wrong
>>499404272
Direct is today?
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>>499404153
the only way worthy of my 15 dollars desu
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>>499403035
>don't play a caster because you wont be getting the legendary staff
Why? So what's the problem?
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>>499404864
because being a caster and not having the staff feels like shit? do you enjoy getting destroyed by other casters just because they have better items?
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>>499404412
the best part is they will never play them either. they enjoy talking about fresh more than they do playing it
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>>499404119
BlizzCon was always the first week of November so I'm sure we'll get something announced around the 2nd/3rd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=0RLuDw0xBP8
>retail getting classic plus before classic does
>classic not even getting anything for the 20th anniversary
magnitudes
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>499407598
didnt retoilets payed $90 for a new expansion? why are they reusing 20 years old raids and dungeons instead of making new ones?
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>>499407598
>1 insta indirect tranime pedo reply
you know how mad they are when they do this
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>>499407760
The troon within flopped so hard
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and now he's samefagging his own posts lmfao
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>>499407760
they did make new ones. this is just extra
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>>499407760
Retoilet is eternally buckbroken by the FF chads
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>>499408173
>biting bait
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>>499407760
they're too busy turning NPCs into niggers and troons
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>>499405095
What the fuck are you talking about? Are u kind of retard?
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>>499408379
what happens now?
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>our latest slop flopped bigly let's remaster classic content AGAIN since that's all people care about
Volumenes
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>post about retoilet resuscitates the thread again
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>>499409110
>Ie. you want era so bad that we implemented it in retail so we can bank on it via shop and boost our retail numbers
fucking Lizard, they legit hate their fanbase.
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>>499410120
blizzard is a bunch of con artists propping up a corpse like weekend at bernies and milking every drop out of it before it dries out
every single one of their franchises is like this. not a single drop of soul is left, it's literally a bunch of spreadsheet janitors and paper shufflers trying to last as long as they can
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>>499410734
Eh we all know that which is sad but tbf biased or not, it's sad how they announcne and makes videos for 20th anni for retail but not even a post goes out for classic. We can meme and shit on classic etc. but to disregard % of your community in such way is just sad.
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If we get FRESH my wife might post again
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>>499410120
vanilla fans don't touch retail though
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>it's all retail talk in the wowcg thread
/wowcg/ has fallen
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AQ PVMP you know where
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>>499412880
What's to talk about tbf? All the franchise shit was gifted to retail per se.
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>fatass troon is a retail cuck
volumes
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>retail mentioned
>thread goes apeshit
lmfao
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Good mooooooorning /wowcg/, I'm just here to remind you that Mists of Pandaria. Yes, that Mists of Pandaria will be taking over the general come next year.
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>>499414207
>retail getting a Blackrock depths event
>Cata classic getting MoP
>vanilla only junkies getting HC fresh
lol
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>>499414490
nta but let's be real, MoP shit was datamined and we can all safely presume that it's happening tho still no announcment as in when. HC fresh tho, atm it's all hearsay
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>>499414776
>HC fresh tho, atm it's all hearsay
if you can't connect the dots by know i don't know what to tell you
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>>499417070
>Sodasucking moving Onlyfangs thing for 1 month
>Blizzard didn't make a single post/announcment
Mate i've seen the "leaks", point being it's still a hearsay thing. As above posts stated by multiple anons, not a single post was done in regards to Classic.
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>>499417506
>"postponing to november"
>why?
>"can't say but be there for november for HC"
>okay when exactly in november?
>"uuuh can't say because.... uhhh... look, HC is an unstable server, so that's why there's no exact date, totally not something else"
blizzard not making a post its irrelevant. They didn't say anything when they added the WoW token in wrath out of nowhere. They just want to keep it as an epic surprise
>b-but muh datamine
what's there to datamine other than one empty unreleased server?
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>>499417742
I know what the privileged faggot said ala "trust me, the delay is worth it" etc. I'll agree with you that there is possibility of Blizz pulling it as an epic surprise. Still, we don't have a single date as when Direct is happening or a single post that is meant for Classic community.
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>>499418479
SoD isn't going away for at least 6 more months (there's still AQ and Naxx) and as a bonus, lmfao Kara crypts already gone. So they're really not going to throw a new classic project inbewteen that. The only course of action they have is either a fresh HC or a normal era fresh. But given how snoydapoppin has been wrangling every classic wow streamer into waiting for november while preparing what to play and what to do, it's really all pointing to an HC fresh server
once again, getting the short end of the stick because why the fuck would you make HC fresh instead of just normal. HC doesn't need a reset because by its nature, it soft resets every day.
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>>499418827
Nah i agree with you, HC by design is always fresh but them privileged cunts fuckedup realm economy so bad that fresh is the only thing that makes sense. I believe HC fresh is probably happening but at this point as it's only hearsay it could be that they are waiting for Asmon and his ban to get lifted which happens at the start of Nov., i just made this shit up.
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>>499419258
>asmon
>playing WoW
lmao, even if he did, they don't want him in because he'll just quit mid way once he gets bored past lvl 20 because he can't get boosted
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>>499418479
I'm guessing what happened internally is that the Warcraft direct was originally planned for this week. But got delayed by upper management/Microsoft because they also wanted to celebrate Fallout day this week/tomorrow.

So the Warcraft directs next logical release date would be 15 November - 23 November. Depending if they go with the 30th anniversary of the franchise, the 15th, or 20th anniversary of WoW, the 23rd.
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>>499419606
isnt blizzcon usually the first week of november though?
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>>499421076
True, first weekend of november.
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>>499421076
unironically 2 more weeks. IF it's happening as iit should.
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insider

SoD HC realm is the news lmao
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>>499423917
You can legit only cry if that would happen.
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>tfw retail got classic+ before us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RLuDw0xBP8
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>>499423917
>SoD HC realm is the news lmao
Holy shit that would be absolutely stupid and worst case scenario out of all the potentials.
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>>499418827
>why the fuck would you make HC fresh instead of just normal. HC
An exclusive SSF server with all the challenges like nudist and no talents used, ect.
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>>499424290
>women be like, "just a fender bender teehee"
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>>499424290
Inironically what's the fucking problem?
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>>499353243
Anons? What should i choose : warlock or shaman? How does it feel?
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>>499430875
Alli play is warlock. So, shaman.
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>>499426526
it speaks something but i can't quite find the right word for it
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>samefagging your own post 1 hour later
wowg isnt sending their bests
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>1 indirect seething cope
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>>499081906
Best case is Fresh Era, something people have been demanding for years. Worst case is MOP Classic, an expansion no one wants a legacy server of and would perform worse than cata. Worst case is going to happen because the old Blizzard is long dead.
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>>499435387
>i hate this in a personal manner therefore it sux
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>>499435458
name a single mop pserver with over 500 online players
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>>499435702
>muh pserf statistics/anecdotes
holy shit lmfao
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>>499435702
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS DOESNT COUNT!@!!!!!!
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why are you samefagging your own post now?
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answer the question
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>>499138352
So it found a floor. Good for it, I suppose. Do anyone outside raid loggers even still play it? It gets almost no new content made for it.
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I got back from the hospital after a week, after surgery for my deviated septum, cleaning out cysts from my sinuses, and correcting my nasal turbinates. I passed out once, and another time I had a seizure because I had diarrhea and lost all my electrolytes. Now that I'm home, I turn on my computer and there’s nothing to play. Scrolling through my phone in bed was more interesting, even though my tailbone hurt like hell
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>>499437721
PE ZA DI TO
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>twitch frog
ez skip, hope you don't mind
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>>499404118

LEAVE.
BLACKROCK.
ALONE.
CHUD.
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>>499404118
>Stop noticing things young men.
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>>499404118
>hello fellow goys
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>>499404118
maybe this guy really is a tranny
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>>499404118
i always knew this guy was jewish as fuck. it all makes sense now, no wonder he was bashing spic fuentes a while ago.
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Please help, I just want to play vanilla WoW. Which NA server do I play on?
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>>499404118
What's wrong with this? America loves jews and black people so he's being very patriotic here
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What's the best part about a fresh?
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>>499404118
Reading his youtube post page is pretty funny. He's gravitating away from MAGAboomery and becoming a soft left winger.

The logical trajectory for every Marvel slurping soi.
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>>499451928
Well said anon, writing was always on the wall with the wolverine larp
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>>499404118
jUsT cRaZy!
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>>499449997
you know what the best part about making meatballs is?
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>>499449997
Running a few games of 10-19 WSG with the boys then heading over to Deadmines
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>>499430416
>unironically what's the fucking problem?
You'll have to be more specific what you mean, you talking about the car or sod hc?
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>>499423917
but you literally can't die in sodomy, the wrath skills are way too op for vanilla
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SoD hardcore would be the stupidest fucking idea. Thus it's the most likely thing to happen.
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>>499437721
Based nasal problem haver fren
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classic plus is incredible
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Retail went through a thread while we had 4 replies
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what does it speak?
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>>499479390
Yep, the retoilet needs frequent flushing. Or all that disney bloat is gonna clog it up
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>his every day thoughts are toliets
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>>499479937
I guess that makes sense
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Seethe has surfaced
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>>499474115
>SoD hardcore would be the stupidest fucking idea. Thus it's the most likely thing to happen.
Fuck
you're right
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>>499478873
uhh this isnt rags room
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Classic+ Hardcore edition? LETSSSS GOOOOO! Sodders we won.
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>>499451928
he's not wrong
gaysafe is a major league bitch faggot
total grifter annihilation
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>>499486804
show hand
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>>499486804
Hi Alex, still seething after all these years?
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>>499451928
its so funny that he's still hurt over him and can't stop thinking about him, and now that his attempt at cancelling him failed entirely since people that actually mattered started showing that image album full of his discord saying nigger, that didn't got him out
also i know you read these, sup faggot lmfao
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Staysafe banned again
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>>499487775
qrd
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>>499451928
>>499487775
>>499487868

Weird timing, curious!
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>>499487775
it's all so tiresome
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>>499488087
how did he do it? which pserver dev gave him the botnet
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I genuinely miss good content creation

This is the most prevalent in SoD, but dude content creation for classic is actually so bad.

Here's every popular content creator:

"INSANE NEW CHANGES COMING..." or "DID BLIZZARD KILL x CLASS??" this will literally be a 2-3 minute video of them reading the wowhead article verbatim almost then asking, "wow, what do you guys think leave a comment below? I love these changes."

I get it, I really do, it's quick thoughtless effortless content for a side Hussle, but man it's just genuinely not good.

I know he's a horrible person but man, nothing beat pre-classic dropping watching Skarm give in depth analysis on classic or telling stories. Madseason was also really good once you got past his voice and if you ignore how blatantly wrong he was about like 90% of the stuff he said. I would kill for content creators like that again, not just soulless content creators that are afraid to speak out because they'll miss out on that aggrend interview to get that blizzard ad revenue boost.

Lastly, the content creator privilege blows my mind. Streamers pushing for a fresh HC server actually blows my mind, the initial classic announcement was sold as a love-letter to the community, listen to the community not those using the community for new content cash grabs. HC died pretty quickly and never needed a fresh but a community has been clamoring for a genuine fresh for over a year now. Don't waste the resources on something the streamers will drop in less than 4 months (I will donate 100$ to Children's hospital if they quit before 4 months and hop to something new, and 150$ if they play for more.)

Anyways, 4$ a pound.
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>>499488087
It's utter bullshit twitch will ban you and not specify what part of your stream violates the terms of service, so you can't challenge it.
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>>499499385
There isn't anything interesting happening with any of the Classic versions so people have no reason to make content about it. It's understandable why all the good content creators jump ship to retail or other games, leaving only those who make low effort shit.
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>>499499385
Amen. Soda acting like a privileged fuck and pushing for shit that no one cares about just so he and his motley crew can farm views is the saddest thing that can happen, even sadder when you come to realization they were swiping like mad last time and none of them got banned even tho they caught them in 4kHD.
>>499501870
>low effort
Tbf not to put any of them on pedestal the content that was produced by that tranny Barny, faggot Swokwickdus, Madseasons eclipse anything that most known streamers produced. I can safely say that if fresh Era releases there will be faggots that produce way better content than any Makgora tournament etc. that streamers will try to bank views on.
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Staysafe won.
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>>499479937
so thats why people ask for fresh
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>>499511230
Certainly not because it's the only iteration that could honestly be called an MMORPG
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what version of classic do people who campaign against fresh even play at this point
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>>499511509
>its okay when vanilla does it
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>>499511674
They're just retail consensus crackers, they don't care about classic
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>>499511674
they dont play any version, even fresh. fresh is just a platform to shitpost on
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>>499511509
>WoW at any point outside the alpha
>honestly be called an MMORPG
el oh el
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>>499512448
Vanilla is a sigma neighborhood
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the cryboom fears the red swirly
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<CIover CIub> Horde [NA] Crusader Strike RP-PVP is recruiting for Season of Discovery PHASE FIVE!

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Join now! Message anyone in-game with the OP post #. If you have any questions regarding the guild, feel free to add Exub on discord.
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>>499515216
>Season of Discovery PHASE FIVE!
Oh, nonono
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>>499515216
>[NA]
Did we ever have semi decent /vg/ guild on EU?
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>>499516713
there was an EU guild in phase 1 that could only field one raid team, and they died about 2 months in unfortunately
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EU erabros... please give us your unfiltered opinions on Iranians. I suspect you guys treat/handle them the same way we do indos/venezuelans on NA realms. Please provide a story of an interaction if possible.
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>>499518296
I've to see one of these yet. My fucking server is full of Turks tho,, you can tell because they keep spamming the chat in their German.
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>>499518296
Don't have a clue about Iranians but we have Turks=Germans. On the other side of the spectrum we have balkanoids/ex-YU which are imo the funniest bunch of all, drunk raid nights are almost always fun with them.
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>>499518296
They are a plague to any server they play on. No/bad English, often google translated into some schizo drivel, extremely poor play, will scam you over the smallest amount of gold, the list goes on
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>>499479937
holy cryboomer cope LOL
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>retailbvlls are making fun of us AGAIN

how do we respond, sisters?
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>>499529814
i respond by running ubrs and typing /kneel before i loot drak. he's gonna drop wildheart next time i swear
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>>499529814
>retail got classic plus before classic did
its speaks something, but what?
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>the 'toilet is samefagging his own post
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>1 indirect seething cope
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>1 insta tranime pedo seethe reply
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>>499529814
>old warriors
referring to the fact that the steorotypical classic player is an old (30+) man playing the brown class
>things were tougher back then
referring to how classic players claim the game is hard, which it has proven to not be (apes clearing mc in greens first week of launch)
>10 minutes
probably a reference to something, but here the irony is that you clear these tw dungeons in about 10 minutes

retail won
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AQ PVMP today - you know where
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>Join us November 13 at 10:00 am PST for a special presentation celebrating 30 years of Warcraft and a look ahead at what’s next.

>It’s a big year for the Warcraft universe and whether you’re a Hearthstone fan, you’ve joined the chaos in Warcraft Rumble, ventured into the world of Azeroth for the first time in Warcraft: Orcs and Humans, or you’re a World of Warcraft player, there’s something for everyone in our Warcraft 30th Anniversary Direct stream. You won’t want to miss a moment— or a single surprise.

>Stay tuned after the stream for a special 20th Anniversary concert broadcast, “World of Warcraft: 20 Years of Music,” celebrating 20 Years of World of Warcraft music. Produced by Helvepic and filmed live in Switzerland the concert was performed by the 21st Century Orchestra and three choirs—Tales of Fantasy, Ardito, and the Madrijazz Gospel, this sweeping 190 performer ensemble will take you on a musical adventure through time and emotion.

>You’ll also be able to earn new in-game viewership rewards for Hearthstone, Warcraft Rumble, and World of Warcraft. We’ll have more details for you soon, so be sure to check back on our official sites.
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FRESH
R
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S
H
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>october almost over
>still no november fresh announcement
it was all a lie
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>>499532208
>fat single moms who collect mounts all day are even laughing at classic players
how did it come to this?
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>>499533954
>tiktok
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>>499534321
>*crybooms*
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>>499525720
...and gets plapped by Orc Shaman bvlls
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>>499525720
>cleric
you mean she plays priest
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https://www.twitch.tv/fabear116
the classic plus raid is insane
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3 new schizo posts -you know where
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i dont
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>I'm done with WoW and blizzard permanently
>anyways when's next FRESH guys?
once a junkie...
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>>499540567
like the changing of the seasons...
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>>499540704
i quit wow but would play a fresh right now
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>>499541142
so ya didnt quit wow then
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>>499541826
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>>499540567
we're about to get another improoover arc
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>Turtle WoW won
Oh, damn... sorry for you guys, lol~
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>1 filtered IP
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>>499544732
what did they win
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Haven't played SoD since 2023, is there a leveling population at all or should I wait for F R E S H?
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>>499547910
FRESSSSHHHHH
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>>499547910
Fresh is pretty much confirmed at this point, just have to wait for the announcement
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>>499547910
>should I wait for F R E S H?
anon I...
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>>499547910
>>499547978
>>499548046
FreshChads in the house tonight!!!
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>>499547910
Fresh will be announced during the Warcraft Direct in Nov 13
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>>499547910
literally everything is dead on sod other than raidlogging
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F R E S H it is then.
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Hardcore fresh Sod has been confirmed
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>You won’t want to miss a moment— or a single surprise.
>Single surprise
>It's HC fresh
GJ Lizard.
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>their classic wow big reveal is HC fresh
>fresh in a gamemode that needs no hard reset
lmfao?
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>We know you like vanilla
>We know you like plus
>and we know you love hardcore....

Now are you up for the challenge of Hardcore SoD?
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>SoD
>Challenge
man 'nillers aren't bright huh
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literally all the inside sources are saying it's fresh era though go watch the belular video
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lady vash? more like lady fash
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only hardcore era fresh with streamers can save wowcg
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>>499552643
serpent shrine cavern? more like filter fine cavern
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>>499552004
>go watch the belular video
link?
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>>499552643
westfall? more like the west has fallen
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its gonna be TBC fresh

TBC HYPE TBC HYPE
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>all these years have been playing on a 1080p 60hz monitor
>changed to a 1440p 144hz today
damn it's a whole different game
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>tranime pedo
skip
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>playing classic on anything other than a 640x640 resolution
lol so much for no changes. you didnt beat the game
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>>499556403
how do get my mom to make these videos? shes way prettier
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>>499550795
Only Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard could flub it this hard
That means it's guaranteed
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>>499533758
I wonder if Blizzard hadnt been purchased by a greedy megacorporation, and also lost all aspects of white male game development; the 30th anniversary could have been cleverly marketed by a very minimalist, mystery silhouette or artwork which would ultimately unveiled to be WoW 2, a completely Remastered modern Vanilla (that effectively is like WoW 2) or something else like some type of Warcraft 4 which single handedly makes rts reborn. I bet there is some alternative timeline where that happened.
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Why did they call Classic Plus "Season of Discovery"?

Seems like it wouldn't be dead if they called the pre-60 phases the Classic+ Beta.

There's probably hundreds of thousands of potential subscribers who think SoD is just vanilla with more skills.
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>>499569528
>There's probably hundreds of thousands of potential subscribers who think SoD is just vanilla with more skills.
it literally is?
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>>499569528
>Why did they call Classic Plus "Season of Discovery"?
It's not Classic Plus. It's seasonal slop just like SoM.
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I know I'm gonna get shit for this, but I think Wrath Era servers with prog would be one of the better choices Blizz could make for FRESH.
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>>499554143
classic wow is one of the most negligible games for resolution difference.
I even prefer to play it on my 1080p monitor than on my 1600p monitor.
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>>499571727
no thanks wrath is dogshit
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>>499572464
wrath without RDF is kino. I quit as soon as RDF was added.
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>>499572597
Wrath is worse than TBC. They fixed most of the classes in Wrath but 2/4 tiers being absolute dogshit make it worse. 3/4 tiers in TBC are great. Kara and Mag/Gruul's are still better than T7 Naxx. T5 is excellent despite what shitters in this general think. Hyjal is okay if you're a warlock or mage. BT is great fun and SWP is easily the best raid from the first 3 iterations of Classic.
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>SWP is easily the best raid from the first 3 iterations of Classic.
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BT was a shit raid
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>>499572964
It's ulduar, and it's not even close
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wrath was so bad it made me go back to retail
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Vanilla: Naxx
TBC: SSC
Wrath: Ulduar
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am i the only one that actually liked togc? especially doing the immortal achievements there
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>>499575034
wrath is retail though
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>>499576107
thats wrong, though. it even used the classic folder in your world of warcraft folder.
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i have literally nothing to do and just want to play fresh again is that too much to ask?
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>>499578019
we had our fresh in deviate delight but homosensual and his simps had to ruin it for us
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>>499578019
create a new character is right there
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proof?
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>>499578764
where theres no fresh server
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lost ark pvmp

https://www.twitch.tv/allysee
https://www.twitch.tv/allysee
https://www.twitch.tv/allysee
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>>499580979
>vtuber
this is like the "hat indoors" of being ugly lmao
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>>499571727
>I know I'm gonna get shit for this, but I think Wrath Era servers with prog would be one of the better choices Blizz
Go push for retail classic then. That's retail.
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>>499577762
>thats wrong, though. it even used the classic folder in your world of warcraft folder.
That's just Blizzard trying to push a meme that isn't true. Wrath is retail.
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>>499578019
>i have literally nothing to do and just want to play fresh again is that too much to ask?
Fresh??? Are we there yet?? Fresh fresh fresh
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>>499578764
>create a new character is right there
A fresh creates a new community with everybody ranking together starting out fresh with no over-geared people around to grief. My create character button can't do that, so you should probably stop repeating nonsense.
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>>499583062
as opposed to some random yahoo on a chinese picture board pushing a meme that isnt true? why do you have the final say and not the proprietor of the franchise?
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3 more weeks, just 21 more sleeps bros...
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>be me
>decide to try wow again after 9 years
>resub
>log onto TWW
>bloated as fuck, i've no idea where to start wtf is going on, what all these talents and shit are, holy fuck
>ok ill try classic, i remember that seems simple and its easy so should be easy to find some guild to play with
>try cata classic
>gdkp pugs everywhere, guilds all ask for logs and want to ask me what my character has done in detail for the past 3 expansions, also im the wrong class.
>try sod, same above except no gdkps but the pugs all decline me as ive never raided before
>ok...lets try ERA
>GDKP GDKP GDKP GDKP GDKP, oh a guild and they invited me....22/40 sign ups 2 hours before raid...guild leader calls the raid links us a GDKP to join so we ''dont miss a lockout week''
What the fuck happened?
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>>499583326
>why do you have the final say and not the proprietor of the franchise?
Because it has arena, LFG, and all the other staples of retail. They'll probably put shadowlands classic in the Classic tab too. It's still retail.
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>>499583969
>What the fuck happened?
Blizzard dropping the ball and letting Chinese gold farmers run gear progression.
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>>499583308
>a new community
im sure those sm spamming "inv dps" mage parties will be so different from the last 30 times
you just want to feel justified in your relapse by having everyone else there too, junkie lol
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>>499583969
Classic is a solved game. The only fun in older iterations of WoW is parsing. Obviously players don't want subpar players harming their parses so they are strict with whom is brought.
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>>499583969
dragonflight was better just wait for df classic
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>>499584602
Understandable, but this creates a barrier for new and returning players like myself where I'm unable to play the endgame without going on a 3rd party website and paying for gold to buy my way into content.

You may think it's blizzard to blame for this or the playerbase for fostering this, eitherway the game is suffering for it.
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>>499584712
lel even the paid shills said dragonfly was worse than shadowlands or bfa
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>>499584070
but vanilla was retail wow in 2004, wasnt it? or does retail just mean "when the game added stuff i dont like" lol
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>>499584850
i liked it more but i didnt play bfa
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>>499584602
Asmon was right. They really need to put an end to addons especially ones that enables this bullshit. It's toxic.
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>>499585691
Back in vanilla the way you could screen players for your guild was
>inspect them
>oh they have some decent gear, properly enchanted
>ask them questions about their raiding experience etc
>invite them as trial and test them out in an actual raid
vs now
>''link logs pls''
>WHAT? YOU DONT HAVE FULL 99s? DECLINED
>you can be a shit player and still have 99s, all you have to do is ignore mechanics, have gear you paid for, press the 3 buttons you need for your rotation and hope your raid has high enough dps to kill the boss fast
if blizzard interfered with the latter, all the mongos would lose their mind and cry about it.
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disney bloat looks like THAT!?
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>>499586443
now show me the shitty gameplay
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>>499585691
Just disable the methods by which these websites can verify the authenticity of and extract the parse data.
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>>499583969
>>ok...lets try ERA
>>GDKP GDKP GDKP GDKP GDKP, oh a guild and they invited me....22/40 sign ups 2 hours before raid...guild leader calls the raid links us a GDKP to join so we ''dont miss a lockout week''
Fake and gay. Filter out all the GDKP spam becuase its literally just one or two guilds spamming sign ups for a gdkp run that's still a week away.
There are plenty of SR runs happening. If you start one yourself you'll eventually fill it up within an hour or two.
And fake and gay story about the guild. Did you join a literally brand new guild that only formed that week?
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>>499588083
>its the same as classic just faster and more buttons to press
nice self own lol
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>>499589067
>Fake and gay. Filter out all the GDKP spam becuase its literally just one or two guilds spamming sign ups for a gdkp run that's still a week away.
>There are plenty of SR runs happening. If you start one yourself you'll eventually fill it up within an hour or two.
>And fake and gay story about the guild. Did you join a literally brand new guild that only formed that week?
all that text, just to cope about your dogshit overinflated economy gdkp infested shit game.
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>>499586438
>Back in vanilla the way you could screen players for your guild was
this shit was peak. in wrath i stopped partaking in guild shit entirely and was able to lead pug raids for 95% of the shit in the game with this method
it does make sense that they got rid of it though, as it harkens back to kids not being good enough in gym class and being picked last. all video games have gone in the direction of forcing the good players to pair up with an equal or greater amount of braindead retards to handhold and there's nothing you can do about it
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Freshseekers, I see you people complain about GDKPs and bloated economies but what exactly are you guys going to do when your fresh realm becomes just like current Era realms after a few months?
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>retail talents is too much bloat
lmfao its literally the same shit that you see in vanilla tbc and wrath, just because you add 5 points in the same shit doesn't make it less of a bloat lmfao
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>>499586438
>>499589632
>back in my day things were this, but nowdays its different and not like back in my day and this is scaring me because its not like back in my day, man back in the day things were so different and i want to be back in those days again, these young'uns don't have any idea of how it was back in my days
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Any mages playing cata?

Am i supposed to combust off cooldown or doni hold it to buiild up ignite and then combust? What level of ignite to you typically just go for it?
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>>499583969
how did you get to end game so fast in all three versions?...
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>>499552004
>Go watch a video I won't link and if you google "Belular wow" nothing relevant even comes up

Based retard
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>>499584248
why are you spamming dungeons like that? once you get a few blues just use them to quest and pvp
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>>499572964
>T5 is excellent despite what shitters in this general think
Based T5 enjoyed. I think T7 Naxx had a purpose on original wrath launch when a lot of people never got the chance to do original Naxx. I just missed out on it the first time around, and enjoyed T7 during the original Wrath release. It's obviously too easy now though, if they run through Vanilla > TBC > Wrath again then they should actually make T7 Naxx as difficult or harder than T3 Naxx, but that's not gonna happen.
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>>499597479
>biting bait
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>>499598230
They could've buffed it to the point where some pservers have and it'd still be too easy. What T7 Naxx needed was new mechanics and maybe x2/x3 HP and damage modifier.
I don't really care though, I'm never going to touch WoTLK again. It somehow became my least favorite of the first three iterations. I used to like WoTLK > vanilla > TBC but it's now vanilla > TBC > wotlk. I'd probably enjoy TBC the most if they actually gave us a fucking era server. I'd at least have the opportunity to play a warglaive fury warrior or a fully BiS hasted out ret paladin.
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>>499598546
>It somehow became my least favorite of the first three iterations.
because it has no appeal unless you play paladin or dk and the raids suck.
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>>499596269
problem is everyone here has seen both. So we know you're full of shit, or to use more thread friendly terminology: coping
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>>499592468
>when your fresh realm becomes just like current Era realms after a few months?
unsubscribe and chargeback my subscription fees
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>>499598745
Ah yes unlike the brown only expansion...
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>>499601971
damn that one struck a nerve
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>>499603261
at least vanilla has a bunch of oldschool shitty systems to it that make it stand out. thats part of the charm as wrath feels a little too modern and why tbc is the best of both worlds
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>>499604152
Yes it's so fun to press shadow bolt exclusively still in tbc, or 1 hotkey macro all my hunter skills and still top meters. But at least the raids have more mechanics so eh, guess tbc is pretty alright honestly. Every expansion has it's downsides, but man does warlock gameplay still suck
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the one good thing about SoD pvp is that it looks like Warcraft 3 with how units get chunked down in 3-5 hits

the STV pvp event suited the nature of this style way better than the battlegrounds
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>>499604152
you could simply just say "its ok when vanilla does it"
you'd look better
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>>499592468
Cry after one month that it's stale and they want a new fresh.
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>>499592468
Ask for another fresh. You don't understand. We want cycle after cycle.
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>>499603524
If you see a retard, you call him retarded. There's no emotional sentiment
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>>499620579
We understand exactly. You don't want to get out of level 20 zones. You want a permanent cycle of rushing to level 20 then quitting.
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>>499623616
Nta but no you dumbo. It's simple make fresh era realm that cycles in phases p1-p6 vanilla etc. and has planned Era/TBC/WotLK in span of 1/1/1 year-ish+. Just redo 2019 onward release for few new fresh servers. After the cycle is over let people migrate their chars to servers that already exist and reset before mentioned new servers ie. planned cycle and reset.
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Hey bros!
I'm an avid WoW player who just woke up from a 20 year old coma!
I can't wait to see what kind of MMOs we have today and how much has WoW progressed!
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>>499604584
>1 hotkey macro all my hunter skills and still top meters.
Share it please, interested to see it.
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>>499299216
There are more WotLK Classic players in WotLK China than all other forms of WoW combined, currently.
>>499295813
Warriors, and to a lesser extent hpal, are going to see their performance take a significant hit with no world buffs, to a greater degree than other classes (because of the way they scale with world buffs). Contrary to popular belief at Blizzard HQ and amongst morons, the game (classic) is better off with a bunch of warriors everywhere, because it's then far easier for pugs to find a tank for group content. Simply getting rid of world buffs and not changing anything else is fucking stupid.
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>>499628769
>WotLK Classic players in WotLK China than all other forms of WoW combined, currently.
NTA but what do you mean? How do you even verify that?
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>>499321043
>referring to yourself as daddy
That's really gay dude
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>>499626501
On one hand I don't blame jews and niggers, but i also don't want them to flood my country and turn me into a minority in my own home.
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>>499633349
Extrapolation by number of servers, census tools, uploaded parses or maybe it was revealed to him in a dream.

Either way, I believe him.
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>>499633349
Didn't China get fucked over massively with all Blizz servers shutdown?
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I want to start playing cata right now. I've never raided in classic before but I've raided with pugs in bra, df and tww. Do I have any chances to get into pug raid or it's too late? If for cata answer is no, what about SoD?
I don't want to join raiding guild because I'm esl nigger with bad English and I think it might be a problem.
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>>499636035
>Do I have any chances to get into pug raid or it's too late?
Its too late. You need full pre-bis and raid logs in all iterations of wow except retail.

You can skip the gearing step by buying hundreds of thousands of gold and attending a GDKP, alternatively, you can login to retail and do all the old raids solo.
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>>499636767
I'm fucking hate this game
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where is the anniversary event in classic?
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>>499597375
should i stop and explain the passage of time and give you dates of how i leveled you fucking autistic mongoloid?
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EUfag here.

I have noticed that as soon as its morning time for EU the quality of posts in this general go from
>somewhat normal
to
>IM A RETARDED AUTISTIC FAGGOT IM GONNA POST THE MOST IDIOT SHIT LOLOLOLOL

I never thought murimutts would actually be the least retarded...i hope you eufags get aids
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3 weeks till we get fresh announcement.
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>>499638749
#nochanges. Wait until 13th Nov., we will get some info.
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>the only new classic announcement will be fres HC for streamers
Its truly never been more over.
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20 more sleeps bros...
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>>499628769
>warriors take a hit until they have gear for their absurd scaling potential without world buffs!
...So they become balanced, the designated late bloomers, the actual "When they have gear they're unstoppable" just like in the old days?
>easier for pugs to find a tank because more warriors are running around
Fuck off you giga nigger lying piece of shit, LF2M <dungeon> need DPS / Tank and being flooded with DPS Warrior whispers while you wait another 30m to find a tank is the definitive Classic experience.

God forbid you filthy browns let the yellow jobs lead melee DPS in MC before BWL releases and you start beating them outright and extending the lead further and further as time goes on.
Fuck outta here with this "I want my cake and to eat it too" non-sense, with WBs browns lead the pack from start to finish.
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>>499639928
>the only new classic announcement will be fres HC for streamers
If i didn't know better i would say that there is no chance Blizzard is so disconnected from their community, yet here we are.
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>hes already back
Is this his fastest turnover yet? We usually dont see Alex for all of fall/winter.
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people are fucking delusional if they think blizz will announce classic+ or FRESH vanilla at some nothing announcement panel in november.
that shit is prime blizzcon material now enjoy your streamer wank and pandas like the good little boys you are.
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>>499606045
thats not whats being said at all, though. the whole point of playing vanilla is seeing wow when it was in the bronze age. wrath resembles the modern version of the game too much so there isnt as much of a contrast between the two
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>>499626501
damn he is desperate
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>>499626501
I miss when alex was just a drunk unapologetic chud, disingenuous alex trying to play to a specific audience is always a snorefest.
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>>499641894
its especially ironic when he likes to use the word disingenuous so much
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https://vocaroo.com/14mEEvNIovqw

OOOOH MAAAAAN
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>>499642038
imagine how assmad you needed to be to make this lol
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seethe poorfags
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>>499643948
>worthless gold on a meme game mode
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>era
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>era
>world chat spammed with boosting services (400g for 5 SM runs LMA0)
>''durr just turn off the spam noob!''
>get unsolicited whispers asking me to buy a boost as i try to level up
you have to be mentally ill to enjoy era unironically.
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>>499643948
>Curse of reck bot
BAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Era fire mage but you can be fire from the start
Now wouldn't that be something?
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>>499643948
i forgot i even had this lol era is a thirdie infested shithole
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>/ourschizo/ is simping for jews and niggers now
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>>499641237
does wrath have world quests, dragonflight, monks, evokers, allied races, mythic raiding, mythic plus, flex raids, raid finder, transmog, dungeons that scale up, zones that scale up?
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>>499651553
asmon's ban rebooted him
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QRD on alexensual? Why is he /ourguy/
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>>499656637
all the schizos/balding/delusional/crybooms can relate to him, hence he's /theirguy/
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>>499656035
no, but its very clear that they have expanded on the formula wrath used to get where we are today instead of one that vanilla or tbc uses. wrath made you feel really powerful while leveling with any class and you can basically solo all content as you level up except for dungeons. im not saying these things are bad either, they are just what make different versions of the game vary from each other.
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>>499656637
>bald
>fresh junkie
>manlet
>wasting his life on vanilla
>furry
>likely a closeted homosexual
>severely mentally ill
How can he not be /ourguy/?
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>>499656892
>no but let me twist the narrative so that one single game is to blame despite that game's design and philosophy not existing anymore in the current game
You know, you were able to solo dungeons in vanilla (Dire maul, scholomance)
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>>499657130
how can he be a homo when his biggest fantasy is to rape women and make them do all the housework
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>>499657665
>blaming
im not blaming it, though. i just said its not a bad thing. just seems like youre more desperate to whataboutism with vanilla than understand what is being said.
no matter how you spin it, wrath is still a much closer design philosophy to modern wow than previous versions.
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>>499659527
>the second expansion is away from the original game and closer to the current game
holy shit no way
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>>499659801
not sure if youre being obtuse on purpose but its more like
>the 2nd expansion set the precedent for every expansion that followed while the 1st expansion didnt
hopefully that clears things up
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>>499660324
>while the 1st expansion didnt
Hey uhh, which one introduced mundane rep grinds, daily quests, flying, heroid dungeons, neutral cities and quest hubs?
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>>499660567
>mundane rep grinds
vanilla
>daily quests
vanilla
>flying
vanilla
>heroic dungeons
tbc
>neutral cities and quest hubs
also vanilla
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>>499660918
>>mundane rep grinds
>vanilla
>>daily quests
>vanilla
>>flying
>vanilla
Boy I love bad faith posting
have the last word I guess
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>>499660918
>>flying
>vanilla
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>>499661648
>cant argue so its le bad faith
yeah the rep grind to get into naxx40 was just so fun and not mundane at all
>>499662049
>what are flight paths
let me guess, it doesnt count?
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>>499662334
>flight paths are the same as flying at your own will
Was vanilla the game that allows you to buy a flying mount and lets you fly anywhere at your own will?
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>>499662334
Ofcourse it doesn't, you cant fly past literally all the mobs or all of the enemy faction players on a flightpath
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-brutosaur-mount-on-in-game-shop-offers-auctions-and-mail-348743?utm_source=discord-webhook

retoilet paypiggies get your wallet out, you missed out on the brutosaur mount in BFA right?
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>>499662523
>suddenly its about flying at your own will
the post said flying. maybe they should have been more specific?
>>499662528
you sort of do, though. taking a flight path from sw to booty bay quite literally lets me dodge everyone trying to gank players in stv
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>>499662334
>yeah the rep grind to get into naxx40
Let's be real, at the time when you have done all the quests related to Strat and Scholo you are easily revered. Dishonest that you would bitch about AD rep farming..
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>>499662781
based. now we're getting fresh realms for sure kek ty toilet paypigs
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>>499662795
Then you're not getting anything done in STV anon, flying on your own mount let's you operate within the zone while skipping literally all of the danger, basically making the world pointless. TBC world is like retail, a pointless no-danger lobby where you might aswell que for all of the content
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>"have the last word i guess"
>replies again anyways
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>>499662781
>$90
holy shit, the fucking audacity
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>>499662795
>le semantics, they should've specified achsually, i was totally not being disingenuous when I said vanilla introduced flying
I see you're one of Those
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>>499663080
>anon is one person
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>>499662983
>it doesnt count
there it is!
>>499663058
>now its about flying at your own will AND getting things done
interesting
>>499663148
just take the L, you fucked up lmao
>>499663402
>does it again
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>>499663492
>take the L
holy zoom
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>schizo can't fathom the concept of multiple people disagreeing with him so he says its one guy to cope about it
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>>499663492
>there it is!
If you view doing quest lines in Strat and Scholo which net you few preBiS items either from quest rewards or drops as a grind than you really need to sit down and rethink your view on what MMORPGs are supposed to be. AD rep to revered is the easiest "grind" for rep in the game also revered for naxx40 is the biggest discount variant that you have to "grind", if you gonna bitch about and be dishonest than you can go and farm gold so you can pay for max mats needed for attunment.
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'nillers and getting btfo on a daily basis is there a more iconic duo?
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>>499663625
>"heh, you are le age demographic"
my honest reaction:
>>499663878
>now hes indirectly fighting for the last word
youre circling the drain sister
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>>499664236
yeah i was the guy that said the last word shit, totally not someone else joining the conversation to call you a faggot lmao
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>>499662781
>no tokens on AH left to buy it

lmao rip
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>arguing with a guy who pretend that flightpaths are the same than flying mounts
Are you retarded?
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>>499664770
it said flying>>499660567 and nothing about the difference between flying mounts and flight paths, thoughever?
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>>499664975
>he said flying so i thought he meant flight paths, because that's a thing everyone complains about
vanilla is to blame for mount and pet collections by your logic
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>>499664770
am i a masochist if i want to argue with an idiot just so i can see his next reply and be shocked?
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>>499665068
>its your fault i worded my argument poorly
well vanilla DID introduce mounts and pet collections...
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>>499575034
>it made me go back to retail
Safely discarded opinion
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>>499665306
vanilla is retail confirmed by our local schizo
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>>499665749
well it was in 2004. if its not anymore, whats the cutoff for no longer "being retail"?
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>>499665892
I don't know you tell me, mr Wrath started it all
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>>499583969
Retail's been dead since Legion.
Rather than rekindle the old audience community ethos with Classic, they maximized the speedrunner p2w meta. Can't be helped.
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>>499665951
>Wrath started it all
i never said that, though
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>>499584602
>The only fun in older iterations of WoW is parsing
soulless hollow
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>>499665306
can you point out where the pet and mount collection tab is in vanilla? I think I must have missed it
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Will there be a fresh of any sort (HC or era) during 2024, or is it more likely to be 2025 Q1 kind of thing? Deciding whether to blow PTO now on PoE2 or gamble and wait for a fresh maybe in Dec for era. FUCK idk what to do
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>>499666354
>people running zg every 3 days for the mount didnt count as mount collecting because there was no collection tab in the ui
lol?
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>>499662781
>$90
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>>499666568
Transmog was a thing in vanilla because you can farm cool looking armor to wear in cities
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>>499666078
Yeah you did
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>>499584248
Nerf dungeon xp, buff dungeon quest xp. Nerf mob tag powerleveling.
Fixed
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>>499592468
Transfer our characters off the server until the next fresh. You know, EXACTLY what hardcore does, only without the childish ruleset.
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>>499666814
>WTS dungeon boost! All 20-30 dungeon quests
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>>499623616
How far did the majority of hardcore players get?
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>>499636035
It's totally dead. Wait for MoP Classic
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>>499667186
Those death graphs showed that people die mostly at lvl 15-20
it truly speaks volumes
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>weeb anime pfp guy from guild logs on
>he speaks
>hes a legit poo-in-the-loo pajeet
>sars when we do the needful raid sars
i hate playing on eu so much
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>>499667772
anime is based, poojets are not
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>>499662781
*sharts in brontosaur owners' mouths*
>thank u master
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>>499662781
pog
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>>499662781
>retail wow post in the classic wow general
>gets insta attention and seethe
hmm
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>>499667126
lolwut not even remotely the same. There aren't enough quests. But sure, add high levels in dungens turn into a raid, can't complete quests.
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>>499667567
Better close hardcore too then
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>>499668486
>WTS full boost ZF run (flyhacking lvl 48 mage mobbing entire dung every 15 min)
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>>499669065
>flyhacking
ITNS
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>kamala is actually the real racist!!!
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the thing is, i still have no idea what being retail means
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>>499670343
soi reacting to capeslop movie trailers arc when?
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>>499670464
>retail
ie. current version/TWW
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>>499666690
where?
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>>499670343
>Kamala Harris supported sending people to prison for smoking weed, targeting black men in California
Extremely based.
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do we agree with him?
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>>499665079
You aren't supposed to feed the troll, it encourages more shitposting.
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>>499670659
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>>499670963
I can't help but laugh
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>>499636035
I would say yes, you can get gear easily with heroics, but the game feels like retail at this point, people will kick you out if you do low dps or if they wipe too often, the mood in the community is they have to do min maxing but hate every dungeon that they do, pvp is dead, but I think you could get into raid if you have enough luck but in general, I feel cata had better days

as for SoD, everyone is levels 60 if you play horde, it feels like no one is leveling and trying to do a dungeon is almost impossible, no worth it
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>>499670963
>not legalizing driving while drinking
ngmi
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>>499670963
>legalize "drugs"
>federal death penalty
>anti war?
>just downsize the government
>no foreign aid
>straight up remove the department of education
Alex is fucking nuts man.
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>>499670963
>politics at *looks at watch* October 24th
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>>499670963
I refuse to believe after everything we've learned about alex over the years that he is pro choice.
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>>499663105
SoD might not be perfect, but at least it isn't monetized to hell and back.
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>>499672081
well he did call Dr disrespect based for sexting minors so, anything goes really
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>>499670963
All of those are good though? Let tweakers remove themselves from the gene pool, kill criminal niggers and get rid of corrupt people
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>>499671075
>You aren't supposed to feed the troll
i know that but ain't you intrigued like me to see what other looney shit he will come up in his next reply? Think we all know that the shit he is saying has no true value.
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>>499671434
>no mention of "wrath starting it all"
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>>499673941
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>>499674168
>you are ze epic troleling
ah, a great cope to end the thread on
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>>499674770
>r*tail coomshit
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>>499675047
Oh nyooo not a coomer OP, this makes /wowcg/ look bad! and it ruins the /vg/ image!
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>>499675781
*smooch*
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>>499670963
kamala is brat



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