NO MORE Factorio!!Previous thread >>499169267This thread is dedicated to all games about building machines and systems, in space or otherwise.List of commonly discussed /egg/ games:Voxels, blocks, and vehicle builders>Avorion>Besiege>Empyrion - Galactic Survival>From the Depths>Machinecraft>Robocraft>Scrap Mechanic>Space Engineers>Sprocket>Starbase>Starship EVO>Stationeers>Stormworks>TerraTech>TrailmakersAerospace>CHODE - Children of a Dead Earth>Flyout>KSP - Kerbal Space ProgramLogistics and factory management>Autonauts>Captain of Industry>Dyson Sphere Program>>>499251000>Factory town>Infinifactory>Mito>Oxygen not Included>Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic>Satisfactory>ShapezProgramming puzzles>Exapunks>Last Call BBS>Nandgame>Opus Magnum>Shenzhen I/O>SpaceChem>TIS-100>Turing CompleteThe full game list as well as information about these games, such as where to get them if they’re not on steam, trailers, /egg/ conquered/hosted servers, and other shit can be found in this pad:https://hackmd.io/e6SPFz8VSRmpV91t8bmkWwhttps://fromthedepthsgame.com/Games that are not /egg/:>MinecraftOP pad for new threadhttps://hackmd.io/Z-_iicnWRFi9T8Sm3Ro9rAWebM for physicians: argorar.github.io/WebMConverterReminder: /egg/ has no discord, any discord links posted are from tranny servers.Current /egg/ hosted servers:>Empyrion - Galactic Survival>Satisfactory (private server, ask in thread for IDs)All IPs are in the pad for security reasons.
can somebody offer their body to be TO for a new FTD tournament
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>biters 3 metres from my starting iron patchexcuse me? what the fuck happened to the starting area
Normally tweak a lot of settings before starting, I'm just going with basically default rail world for this.
We are back to dead games for a while
Wait a sec, I can get the expansion for free if I buy the game off their website?
it's over>>499256384>>499256731--> /fag/
>>499256731It says you get a steam key when you buy the expansion on their site, retard.
Did they remove manually wiring power polls? Can't seem to do it
>>499257634Only possible with legendary power poles, sorry.
>>499257634Alt+CAll the wires are hotkeys now
Is there a way to change the default rate that the hover-over tooltips show from items/sec to items/min? I looked briefly in the settings but didn't see it.
>spent 2hours collecting HDDs for the refined iron ingot>still haven't gotten itI just wanted to upgrade my iron..
>>499256808>>499257628Well I'll go through my refund anyway, the game is £5 cheaper on their website and I can just transfer my save once I get the steam key.
>space age is 45 canadian dollarydoos>THAT'S TWICE WHAT I PAID FOR THE BASE GAME YOU CUNTS
>>499258548Just savescum the rescans.
>only 57k in gameits over
>>499259119Do I look like a pussy?
>>499259406Yes
>>499259515
Where's the uneranizer mod kit?
MECHANICAL ENGINEERS RISE UP
RETVRN
Misjudged the angle of my cannon... now I get to fall for 10 minutes.. but at least I can see my factory from above
HDDs, here I come
>>499260486oh hey, grem. did grem go anywhere? i liked rem more than grem
I just realized the mod to start on other planets also changes the tech tree a bit. It must give you a way to unlock solar on Vulcanus without needing power.
>>499260486Never ever
How long until we unmitosis?
>>499260446I hate Keen so much its unreal
>>499261620>unrealActually it's VRAGE.
>>499261679I'm going to corrupt your save file
>>499261796Joke's on you, a catch block already did.
>>499255316What game is that??
>>499261852damn, my condolences
>>499261890From the Dephts.
>hey you can turn off quality if you don't like it>(actually you can't lol)
>>499261303Fuck I already almost softlocked myself. I started crafting some accumulators before crafting a power pole. If I hadn't stopped it then I would've used all my iron plates on those and not had any for a power pole.
>die because switch weapon hotkey got rebound
>>499261890Machinecraft
I couldn't sleep last night because I kept thinking about slurping an anthropomorphic personification of quality's filthy asshole. Why would wube do this?
I HATE SPIDERS Fuck whoever made them. Even after 400hrs they still scare the shit out of me and make me wanna cry in a corner
>>499261546Last time it was under a week
>Major Factorio update + expansion releases>/egg/ deadreally makes you think
>>499265765We migrated, we are proud /fag/s now >>499251000
>/fag/s fuck off>thread is now on life supportIt wasn't supposed to be like this
AIR SPIDER>>499266095That's not a bad idea.. filtering out the storm of noobs.. sadly doesn't work for other generals.
>/vg/ users when the thread isn't moving at 20 posts a minuteThis is /egg/, it doesn't need to go fast
>>499262520good
>>499266542Now it goes at the same speed as /inDIE/. Which I find comfy.
>>499266725basic belt bros
>>499259370It's 67k nowThe age of satisfactory is mediocreIt's all factorio nowPost SPM
>fish spoil in your inventory
>>499261620Nothing that could be done, it served as a development branch for spengies and it died off when its features were merged. A small indie game dev studio can't support two competing sandbox infdev projects.
>>499267584true, still weird that they did that
so whats the verdict, should i wait for a month before getting the dlc?
>>499268315Get the DLC now.
>>499255316>Logistics and factory management>>>/vg//fag/Aaaah, purity. This will be a most qualitative thread.
playing a pirated copy and I shit you not I just got a loud screamer classic mid 2000s internet style with flashing screen creepy black white thing and bassboosted loud noise, just randomly out of nowhere, didn't fix itself until I alt+f4no idea what triggered it, if it's timed or progress based or what (I just started doing oil), now I'm concerned that it can pop up at any time. call this bullshit or whatever just sharing in case anyone cares
>>499268968please be real
>>499268968kek this is funny as fuck.
>>499264148Hate those fuckers, put me on tenter hooks and I end up cussing them out under my breath whenever I come across a gaggle of them. Never happens with anything else
when is d*sh gonna do the thing
I think that's enough.>>499269527The eastern swamp area is the worst. There are groups of like 0 of those big fucks that can jump.I resorted to bombing the entire forest from the safety of my power tower.
>>499269616Do a flip?
serb shill193.77.182.208space age:enabledpiratefags:enabledcliffs:maxed
5 total hours.. but I finally got it. I can finally start building factories again
What are ya listening 2 while playing space age?
>To get above Rare quality, you need Bio science from Gleba, rather than Electromagnetic science from Fulgora (the planet you get recyclers on, which enables the actual core method of making qualityMan, they really stretched to make Gleba worth a damn.
okay start?
>>499272865>3 ores packed togetherNah.
>refineriespure iron is not only a bad recipe, it is the least profitable and most annoying out of all the water refinery recipes.
>>499255316I'm sure you meant "NO, MORE Factorio!!".I understand, it is an easy mistake to make.
>>499271124>>499273053I'd argue you don't really need to use any of the alternative iron ingot recipes, iron deposits are plentiful enough
>>499273053>regular makes 30 ore into 30 ingots>refinery makes 35 into 65and refineries look cool afProblem?
>>499272865Is this your first time playing? If yes, starting in a desert won't be very fun for you.
I heard u like refineriesMy old save was nothing but refineries everywhere.. sadly they broke that one with putting mountains into my factory.
Old me really needs to learn how to belt.. like holy fuck what is this
>>499256384>>499267223>>499269662>>499270993MEGA when? I need a little try before you buy
>>499273471>Problem?Yeah, they only fit near the bottom of a blueprint.
>>499272865don't listen to this anon >>499273736 starting in the desert is a fun experience.>packed oresgood, you'll start learning about deadlocks and configuring splitter input output priorities and filter then.
>>499274781I tried using blueprints cause everyone was so hype about em.. I don't like using that shit. Not only would I have to make everything twice for each direction of the splitter, I'd have to make a blueprint for every single fucking thing I make cause they are all configured differently.That shit is for autists.
>>499274938>for each direction of the splitterIf you use smart splitters, the difference is 4 clicks.
>>499275193The smart splitter doesn't magically turn 180. I'd rather just slap that thing down by hand. 4, click, 5, click, constructor, click.. done. And the belting between them really isn't that much work.
>>499273736yeah>>499274894>deadlocks and configuring splitter input output priorities and filter then.any quick advice to get an idea of how that works?
>>499274938>every configurationMake 1 blueprint that does it most, blueprints are shit and you'll be doing tons of manual work anyway. For example there is no way to do a coloring scheme without making 50000 blueprints, and middle click doesn't copy paint because the devs don't actually play the game.
>>499275510Still can't get this one to work, the 4th row splitter refuses to snap in.
>>499275510Yeah, I did.. the basic splitter, constructor, merger.. I got to use it once. It never worked again in any other place. That's because everything is built completely different.And it doesn't even save time. Popping down 3 things and connection them takes 0 time.
>>499274214see >>499252505
>>499275620do this, then add belts and delete the lower stack. The 2/4/1/3 is deliberate, splitters are too close and they'll collide
>>499276371Dam how did I miss that. Thanks
>>499275754bro you couldn't work blueprints with the constructor? That's one of the only places where blueprints are actually good.
>>499277121As I said, one blueprint only works for 1 place. As soon as I went fixing up the iron plates that shit didn't work anymore cause splitter and merger were the wrong direction. I can use a constructor blueprint for maybe 2 things. fuck that.. I'd have to blueprint every single production.
>>499277309>one blueprint only works for 1 place.uhh skill issue, I'm stamping these little shit fabs all over the place.
>>499277586And I have a very unique factory. Shit's like code without notes. Nobody besides me knows how it functions.
>>499275462deadlocks are what happens when your resources have nowhere to go since something is blocking their way or their processing stations are full and won't take any of the ores to be smelted. with mixed resources like that especially in the early game, when you start smelting stuff in a furnace array copper will tend to cause deadlocks for the more in-demand iron at that stage. priorities will help out on fixing deadlocks, input priority prioritizes which belt you want to prioritize. if left belt is prioritized, then it takes that belt and spit out its contents between 2 belts, output priority simply prioritize which belt while the splitter will prioritize to output. you can set the filter of a splitter to only spit out something that comes out to a certain belt while the rest goes to the other
>>499277774>uniquebro, just call it a fucking disaster of a mess, don't try to butter it up
>>499271124Why pure ingots? It's so power hungry compared to regular or alloyed
>>499278547>powerPower really isn't a big issue at that point in the game.He can set up a turbo fuel rig and power everything he needs for quite a while.
>>499262520Only retards dislike quality anyway
This update is bullshit
>Building up my casual Space Age base into mid-Greens>Decide I want more Coal power>Wait, with instant transmission pipes, that means a single pump can supply more than 13 can't it...>Offshore pumps 1200 a second and Boilers eat 6 a secondWait, am I misunderstanding something? There's no way 1 offshore pump can supply 200 boilers.
>>499285746the new remote view also looks like shit
>>49926722345
>>499281664It's power and space hungry. I can fit a smelter stack for 1200 ore per minute in one 5x5 blueprint but there's no way to do that with fat fuck refineries
>>499287287So don't.Just stack them on top of each other via several blueprints.It takes a tiny bit longer, but is more raw resource efficient, meaning you can use more of them for more max throughput.
>>499287423You don't need to be resource efficient with iron since there's so many iron nodes everywhere, more than you'll ever need.
>>499287874But not locally. If you wanna train it in, sure.
>>499288584>not locallyThere's half a dozen spots on the map with 6 normal nodes worth of iron, and the corner of the desert has half the iron on the map. Iron is not in short supply.
>>499288584>not locallyThat's only true if you start in the grasslands which is a noobtrap
>put in quality module in miner>everything deadlocks because you can't use higher quality shit to craft lower quality itemswow great mechaniclove it
You're supposed to filter it out.Cause Splitters have filters.Send it all to a separate location.Retarded spacing has forfeit your (You).
>>499289073grasslands is literally the most difficult starting point. Shit starting resources, shit terrain, shit water, bottomless pits everywhere, and all the advanced resources are on the other side of the map.Rocky desert is probably the best start. It has good flatness, lots of pure nodes, coal ready to cook, and rare resources all over the place. The dune desert is also decent but a bit too much rolling hills of copper and iron, and all the good stuff is on the outskirts
>>499268968Based
>>499268968You.This?>>499276371
Is it suppose to be choppy/studdering is my 3.7ghz quad not enough?
is snap to grid relative broken? doesn't seem to be snapping correctly
>>499290778What's your GPU?
>>499292517960Looking at the setting, It says sprite res needs 3gb vram, so maybe I should turn it from high to medium.
>>499292871The update is a lot more graphically intensive, but I'm getting stable 50~60 fps on my 3rd generation intel with no GPU.Change some settings around and it should run fine.
>>499285957>Over an hour later, no replyBruvs, please.
>>499293321That is how it works.
>>499285746>BUT QUaLliTy IS oPtIOnaLBetter start upgrading the quality of your turrets anon~~Remember, it only improves their range;)
can you send signals between planets?
>>499295868Wire a radar
"BITERS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this chunk before. There could be BITERS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE BITERS" he thought. Hymn to Breaking Strain reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the 9$ heavy oil circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of arthropods after dark. "With a car, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
>>499259406>pass useryes
anybody played soul interface/has actual background in deep learning here?i need you fags to explain this to me
I just realized they added squeak through to some things in Factorio.Like Boilers.
>>499297005Genuinely and completely unironically this does honestly sound like a PID to be frank. You want the thingy to act some output depending on the input, but instead of coding it yourself like a chump you force it to learn. The context eludes me so I don't know what the inputs and outputs could be.
>>499298148all the inputs and outputs are the same monogenous "excitement" rate, which is just an [-inf, inf] float which is tranmitted between neuron connections.the initial inputs depend on enviroment and generally just interpolate between multiple basic states a creature has, like maximizing energy income, reproducing or avoiding threats, and you can choose which initial neurons are excited in which state, and the outputs are tied directly to the parts of creatures which make them move.thing is, i kinda get what neurons do, they can be interpretered as a sort of logic gate with variable strength inputs instead of discrete numbers, but the ELUs completely fucking elude me on every level. it's supposed to be a network inside your network which you can somehow train to do specific things depending on input, but unlike whole creatures it doesn't have a good way to know it's fitness and HOW exactly it's reaching the needed output, and it's kind of crucial to understand if i want to use like 6 stacks of them to make my floaters gracefully outmaneuver predators, so i could have fine motor control.and it's like the most basic type of ELU too, there are way more complicated variations.
did they fuck up the train looparound circlei can't seem to fit it in a 32x32 anymore
>>499264148They just want to hug you.Or maybe RKO you mid-air.I've had some luck throwing a cluster nobelisk at my feet, leaping to the side right before a jump attack lands, then detonating the nobelisk under the spider, causing all of the cluster bombs to explode on it, instantly killing it. I need to test some nuke nobelisks next.
Damn, I was off by one thousand.
>>499300995Just stick them as they're coming towards you
>>499301535Today's peak is still really high.
normal or deathworld? or did they add any new modes?
>>499301535it would have been 10x higher if they released on Friday
>blew a fuse while using a hover pack to levitate over a bottomless canyon on the edge of the map>half my power supply keeps shutting off because despite building double the plutonium fuel rod capacity my spreadsheet said I needed, somehow my uranium plants keep getting clogged by waste>gotta pause my final factory for this save to go figure out wtf>>499301654The problem I've had there is sometimes the cluster bombs fly off the spider instead of exploding on it. Seems like the bomb being on the underside of the spider is the most effective approach.What I actually do the most is wait for them to land after a jump and dump a magazine of homing bullets into them while they stand there for a second before leaping again. The big spiders tend to take 2 magazines, though. 3 if they start running and half your bullets miss.
There will be no stengies this week, next week will be a go
>>499272865>3 overlapping patchesLiterally the worst case scenario, lol. But its not like the starting patches really matter. You'll be expanding once you unlock trains anyway.
>>499297005AAGH please don't make me go on a dive of neural network tutorials
>>499272865>>499305756Mine is like this too.
not a fucking tree in sight, i guess no cliffs either but still. ive been fighting biters more than building.
>>499303295You fucked up your power management.Time to add nitro rocket fuel and fuck ton of fuel generators.600 m3 crude oil, with heavy oil residue and diluted fuel will lead to 144.000 mw of power. If perfect. If not, meh, good enough.Just the stopping at diluted fuel will add plenty of power.
>>499309806The biter nests are your trees now. But these trees have teeth.
>>499303295uhh, your batteries?
>>499310820I'm close enough to the finish line that I could fix this by building 10-12 more plutonium power plants, or by building 4 more large storage containers for the uranium waste that's built up. But I think I'll actually make an ionized rocket fuel power plant because I've recently fully automated power shard production and these things can't be sunk, so I need to get rid of them some other way to keep the Dark Matter Residue cycle going.
>>499313739Somehow, they didn't help much. Probably because I was playing without audio and missed the "batteries activated" noise and didn't realize I was on battery power. I might go add to my bank.
>>499314152It's really easy to spam them with a vertical blueprint, just place them one over another and connect, you can easily place 100MWh of capacity in under 10 minutes this way.
>>499315038Thanks for the reminder. I made the blueprint but it uses so much wire that I kept forgetting to just grab an inventory full of it and go build some layers.
>>499299239It appears to be a severe case of RTFM gameplay, and in this case a lot of manuals online are paywalled
>>499315038>100MWH in 10 minutesYou mean in 10 seconds, right?
It begins again.I never finished my last save. I have never launched a rocket.
>>499317776wrong thread, anon. Factorio's been exiled until the post-release flood of players dies down>>499251000
>>499317910>wrong thread, anon. Factorio's been exiled until the post-release flood of players dies downAre you the sperg who is trying to split the thread?
>>499318035How did you know?
would /egg/ be interested in playing a space engineers scenario set around a 1:1 scale saturn? I'm working on a bunch of mods for it, it'd be running for 1 week
why does this recipe exist? why would I ever use a blender & diluted fuel when I could use 3 packagers instead?
>>499318035nah, I just find the /fag/ to be a more amusing general name than /egg/
>>499318035nah, /fag/s are unhingedthey even have a fucking cult for her, the engineer.
>>499318675>her, the engineerYou're meant to find the factory sexy, not the masculine meat bag with a home-made metal shell.
I thought old rail blueprints were supposed to be incompatible? I copied mine and they work just fine
>>499318675>they even have a fucking cult for her, the engineer.Satisfactory is the one where you're canonically a frumpy lesbian>>499319192If you hover over the rails you place with them, you'll see they're "legacy rails"
>>499317776Quick tip: Instead of doing that chest thing, place two or four miners facing each other so they feed each other with coal. Makes the burner phase a bit less tedious because you don't need to handfill your coal miners anymore.
>>499319897do one better and build a giantic snake of them.
>>499319991>Coaloboros
>>499290035its real, my brother died that wayhe was playing pirated factorio as one might when the screamer came up and he died of a heart attacktrue story btw
>>499318259the blender recipe is better, but requires blender. That recipe costs plastic in the form of packaged water
>>499320898It doesn't, packing is recycled in closed loop.
>>499318259The refinery/packager setup is more annoying but much lower tech. The blender one needs blender tech, the same basic inputs, but much easier to set up.
I have very little idea what I'm doing. Is this reasonable?
>>499322461>twin left turns: fine>twin right turns: fine>twin straights: fineit's good enough
>>499322461Yes, this is good, really good in fact, I can't see any improvements that could be made.
>>499322461just make sure that you NEVER make a train longer than your shortest segment or it'll eventually deadlock.
>>499323723but the shortest segment is smaller than even a single locomotive
>>499321324The packaged version requires more steps with a container buffer and costs more energy
>>499323987that's ok for chain blocks
>>499323987That's why it's a chain block, it literally forces trains to not stop inside, only rail signal blocks need to be long enough.
did they increase biter toughness with the update? I cant keep up making ammo and yellow ammo is basically useless 3h into the game
>>499262520or you could just not play with it. There's 0% chance of a quality item popping out of any machine if you don't put quality modules in them.
>>499326138that's always been the case. yellow ammo is actually worthless past the first hour.
>>499262520quality is a good mechanicjust use a splitter you dumb bitch
>>499327215Yellow ammo can get you through pretty much the entire game as long as you don't ignore damage upgrades. It only stops working against behemoth biters.
>>499324057it costs less than half the energy of a blender
>>499326138Better get some uncommon™ and rare™ turrets set up, you bought the DLC to make them, right?
>>499327601making 320 fuel with diluted packaged fuel costs 249.254 MW 320 Diluted fuel costs 233.176 MWIt gets even better if use use heavy oil residue.diluted packaged fuel is objectively worse unless you haven't unlocked the blender yet
>>499327458idk man. at the moment about 90% of my smelting stack is going to making ammo. I think i might have a bug or something. This is worse than my rampant run.
>>499328626>I think i might have a bug
>>499328626> i might have a bug you have a lot of bugs, yellow ammo isn't gonna be enough
>>499328626Don't listen to >>499329056Make more yellow ammo. Research more damage upgrades.
>>499318157Yes but what role would Saturn play
>>499328626Did you spawn in a huge ass desert with a nest right besides you or something? I just upgraded to red ammo and haven't even been attacked yet, to me it seems like biters just don't care about me. Weird how people either say biters are more aggressive or just chill around your base, seems like something changed. Maybe the changes in pollution absorbtion do some strange unexpected things.
>>499318157>space engineers scenario set around a 1:1 scale saturn?BASED
>>499316303but some people do it!i've seen clips of predators with stupid complex nervous systemsi just have to figure out what they do exactly
>>499262520Quality is like a gun accident. You have to take multiple steps to make the quality items happen.You have to:>research Quality>craft quality modules>insert those quality modules into your machinesOnly after those three steps will you ever see a non-normal item.
>>499331198Quality cannot enter your factory without your consent
>>499322461you're going a bit too heavy on the chain blocks. you could inadvertently cause a collision because the amount of the intersection a train is blocking off ahead of itself is too small.take for instance two trains approach this intersection and arrive at the same time. train 1 is heading westbound and is going to continue westbound. train 2 is heading eastbound but is going to turn northbound. train 1 enters the northeast dark blue block, sees that the northwest yellow block ahead of it is unoccupied, and continues at full speed. train 2 enters the western magenta block, sees that the yellow block is unoccupied and continues at full speed. whichever one enters the block first (probably train 2) will then occupy it, signaling the other train to stop to avoid collision. however, given how short the distance is and that both trains were going at full speed, there is a chance the braking train will not slow down in time and will collide with the other train.
>I have to juggle more items for maximum efficiency>this is somehow a bad thing
>mfw solar interventionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy74G4jIrFQ
>>499331365>you could inadvertently cause a collision because the amount of the intersection a train is blocking off ahead of itself is too small.uh, no. Factorio reserves the train's braking distance, it gets shown as yellow lights. Satisfactory doesn't do that, trains simply take blocks and everyone else can eat shit.
>>499331365That's not how it works, have you never played Factrio before?A train will never reserve a chain block if it can't also reserve a rail block after it.Also trains always keep their speed low enough to stop at then end of their last reserved block if they can't reserve more.The situation you are talking about can never happen in Factorio.
>>499294764Quality is optional, nothing is stopping anon from turning down biters, or even turning them off
okay, you autistic bastardsi need all of you to hop on this gamehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2878890/soul_Interface/this is like the most autisic thing i have ever seen, ftd and stormworks dwarf in comparisonit's about designing underwater creatures and then training their behaviour via freeform neural networks and then sending them to public planets to watch them dominate biosphere of other creatures which were also designed by other playersi can't waste my time in this alone, i desperetely need more people to play this to justify myself choking on 2 hour long explanations of backpropogationthere's a dynamic self-training model if you don't feel like doing this shit, but you will still have to design the training enviroment and the creature itself
>>499330197Exactly this >>499329371did 2 lvls dmg/speed. a biter attack gets through two thick walls with 4 turrents shooting yellow. Its not my first time playing the game. I havent had this much trouble with biters since I did a rampant run a while back.
>>499331535>>499332076then how have I had deadlocks happen when I painstakingly double and triple checked every intersection to make sure the signaling was correct, and made sure every train on the network was of the correct length.
>>499332449>paying to do work on some asshole's AI network>not even out yet>no demo>devs are LITERALLY soullesslollmao even
>>499332737there's demo, you retardand models can train completely locally
>>499332714You are probably misunderstanding something about signalling or you don't use train limits.
>>499332714obviously it's because you fucked up somewhere.Try the train traffic clearing tutorial: https://clips.twitch.tv/CarefulIncredulousLaptopWTRuck
>Watching Bald Viking fucking around building a better Nauvis base after conquering all three starting planets>Alerts start going insane>A swarm of pentapods entered his base>Four stompers survived the defenses and just start breakdancing on top of his shit
do aliens evolve over time or only as you kill them? if I turn everything off can I delay it for a bit?
>>499333551
>>499333551time, pollution (emitted, doesn't matter if it gets absorbed before it reaches them), and spawner destruction
>>499333551They evolve over time, when they consume your pollution and when you kill them. The evolution by time is pretty slow, so yes if you turn your base mostly off and stop killing them you can delay biter evolution and spawn rate significantly, but you can't stop it completely.
>>499329602https://store.steampowered.com/app/846030/DV_Rings_of_Saturn/
estimates on how much the stock market is going to drop from IT nerds calling in sick to work for the entire week?
What's your preferred rail spacing? I guess it depends on your rail network style, maybe for rail grids you would want a smaller spacing because there's going to be more rail in the world. And if you pick a more openttd-style network with mainlines / sidelines, does it get to the point where you need two rails going each way or is it enough to just improve junction throughput?
>>499330197This is why I found a seed with desert on the left and forest on the right. I get to experience the new combat rebalance while not having to worry about all directions at once.
>>499335290Wide enough to fit roboports.
>>499335717Oh wait, this isn't /fag/. I thought the activity was too low
>>499334208Ok so just eating the rings, that's fine
Fulgora done, Vulcanus done, Gleba done. Time to upgrade Nauvis using the new machines and go to Aquillo.
>>499337897Post base or gtfo
>>499338301I've been playing for 15 hours straight. I'm going to sleep. I'll post my base tomorrow morning.
red science done, green science done. Time to set up my oil patch and put up some preliminary defences
>>499338637That's what I did yesterday and decided to go to sleep. I got a bad start, rich patches but very small size, I can only fit 10 drills on the iron patch, 8 on the coal patch and 4 on the stone patch. Did wube nerf the starter patches size?
Getting my train working.>>499336618>>>/lgbt/
>>499331531Don't ask me why, but I've got to listen to stupid mashups while playing Factorio.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxXufI6-OIEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpIAWkGaE_shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHmkGpEcWOcJust shit that turns your brain off.Likewise, I either have to watch shit like "Irish People Try 190 Proof American Alcohol" or a mediocre anime like Re:Zero while playing Satisfactory. It can't be anything that requires paying attention.
>>499339272Choo choo motherfucker.An LGBT train is usually a little kinkier, though.
Havin' fun with modded pipe junction.
>>499341184>Cap Cross>Cap TriYes, these are what I want.Althought some of these aren't really that necessary, like the bend 180. You can do a lot with just a pipeline support/wall pipe support.
>>499339442You should watch the good version of Re:Zero instead.
>>499341858I've been putting that off for ages because the first episode was simultaneously the most boring thing I'd ever seen and the most frustrating. I've seen it said dozens of times that it picks up after 9 episodes or something, but part of me wants to avoid it out of spite because if you can't make the story interesting until 9 episodes in, you're just a shit storyteller, imo.
>>499342205As someone who went into it blind, I found it enjoyable from episode 1. Maybe my brain is wired wrong.
>>499342205>>499342418Wait, I'm an idiot. I just said I can only watch stuff that doesn't require paying much attention, so the perfect time to watch those boring early episodes would be while playing Satisfactory. Thanks anon. I'll give it another go.
>>499342418I had the same experience.
>>499341858>>499342205>>499342418REEEEEEEEEad the VN, ironic weebs
i get it, i really do.i just think its stupid.
>>499344449wrong thread
>>499344507>you cant post factory games in the factory games thread because... uh... YOU JUST CANT OK?!?where the fuck am i supposed to post factorio then, nigger?
>>499344585>>you cant post factory games in the factory games thread because... uh... YOU JUST CANT OK?!?Yes, just like you can't post gregtech in this thread>where the fuck am i supposed to post factorio then, nigger?>>499251000
>>499344585ntathere's plenty of factorio posts here, dunno why anon is spergingbut there is a factorio general right now>>>/fag/>>499251000
>>499344685the difference is that gregtech is modded minecraft, which has a far more relevant thread.a unique thread for factorio makes little sense because there is already an existing factory game thread.but sure i'll move over there, maybe this thread will die and you'll stop being a little sperg that should've been beat more as a kid.
So is space age good or what?
>>499345080The factorio containment thread is 100x more active than /mmcg/, if anything gregtech discussion should be moved here
>>499344724It's a troll trying to force a split. Nobody asked for a factorio general and we didn't split when satisfactory hit 1.0 and everyone was talking non-stop about it. Satisfactory hit over 200k concurent players during that period and factorio was at 90k during peak, there isn't even a justification based on number of players. I could understand a split if say, factorio hit 500k somehow but this is not the case.
I just want you guys to know that, after a blessed week, the porn spammer in the lolg thread finally established a work-around—so we're all suffering the 15-minute buffer for no reason while he continues to spam without interruption.
>>499345467What did he do? It's likely going to get fixed anyway.
>>499345467>we're all suffering the 15-minute bufferOnly new IPs get hit with the buffer.
>>499345453The Satifactory players weren't constantly bitching about /othergame/ while posting about their own, though, and the Factorio players seemed more than happy with jumping over to that thread for the time being so I mean...I don't personally care whether either game floods this general, but the incessant shit-baiting from Factorio player(s) for weeks on end was really fucking annoying, so if he/they have a thread dedicated to their game to stop that, I'm all for it.
>>499345784schizo
>>499345730Ah, I thought it was closed browser. I have a habit of keeping a private window open for 4chan stuff just out of other habits starting it.>>499345649Spamming that thread for 8+ hours a day every day upwards of every minute, even when insta-banned. Has infinite proxies that finally seemed to be staunched this last week (other than the odd post as he was trying to figure things out before a ban,) but now he's back on his grindset lol.
>>499345784The baits were made by a single guy who doesn't play factorio considering he got several elements of the basic gameplay wrong.
>from Factorio player(s)People who shitpost about a game aren't even the players. It's just people (usually 2 or 3 in a circlejerk with each other via Discord) deciding to raid a thread every single day for months on end using the latest shitposts to annoy everyone.
>>499345453The difference is a few Factorio players went berserk over Satisfactory being the more common discussion topic in the thread for a week or two. Putting Factorio in its own thread today multiplied how much people got to discuss every other /egg/ game other than Factorio, so it seems like a decent move even if it's just temporary while Space Age is new.I'm not even against Factorio stuff here. There has been several exchanges about it so far. That's cool, imo. But if the other thread didn't exist, this one would've been 99% Factorio and most of the other stuff would've been pushed out.
In-world liquids have been added to Stationeers.
>>499346119>>499346171A lot of the posts I saw trying to stir shit up seemed very familiar with the game, I shouldn't have added the ( ) to imply I agree with the theory that it was a single guy. There's also the fact that this thread still has Factorio posters but there's been no shit-disturbing despite the fact that both games currently co-exist. Really gets the noggin joggin', huh?Whatever though, I'm not super invested in if they post here or not. If jannies get mad and they have to come back sooner, then we have a more active thread, so hurrah on the trade-off for less sniping.
>>499346437>when something new comes out people will talk about it over old thingsholy shit anon this is a massive discovery, we NEED to take it to major news stations RIGHT NOW!
>>499345453More than a split I see it as a healthy /v/ seawall, so that this general can function normally for the time it takes for factorioposting to stabilize. I'm happy to not see the "uhhh is this game worth $80 when is it going on sale" "do i need the base game to play the mod??" copycat posts over and over.
>>499346091Pretty sure he's using stolen credit cards to buy passes to bypass the post cooldowns.
can you fags stop posting offtopic games? fagtorio got his own containment thread go there and fuck off, take mindustry and shapez with you while you're at ityour satisfactory clones are not /egg/ games
>>499347258>satisfactory clones...
i like factorio
>>499347572I like factorio-tan but I hate factorio. I fantasize about playing satisfactory with her in front of the male version of the factorio protag
>>499347718>cuckshit/v/-coded post
>>499346729very nice
>>499347331satisfactory started development years before factorio, mindustry and sharpez. make /fag/ 2d factory game general for all your spreadsheetshit games and let us keep /egg/ for zachtronics games and 3d factory games
>>499348271bullshit
>>499345467What kind of spam?
>>499348553anon will ignore this post and keep making the same bait in other threads. Maybe even later again in this one.
Satisfactory came from Factorio came from openTTD.
>>499348578I see, it's one of those /pol/coded spam.
>>499347572BOOBSTOO SMALL
boobs too big
ok nilaus
>>499349508Is this real?
>>499346778Don't post if you have the reading comprehension of a 12 year old.
>custom make some rare big electric poles for the sole purpose of crossing this one specific gap>they're still too short
>>499348553>Started as "Base Defense">Still no Sanctum 3
>>499350681>has never had a workshopI must be having a stroke then. I swear I got all the mods from the workshop.
>>499350568Are you even an engineer if you didn't calculate how long the range was going to be?
>>499349176Yeah, just unending race-bait
>>499350568looks like you're going to have to make trains
> Smelting> smelting in the space age :o
>>499350568its going to sound silly but maybe try that one corner a bit further to the left? only two tiles higher but it looks to be four to the left, which might be enough to connect to the leftmost one down below.
>>499350413>doubling down on your own retardation
Finally bothered to put down Oil processing since I need to harvest Oil to unlock all the rest of the green sciences.Only running it a bit for now since I still don't have worthwhile defenses.Gonna play around with Quality Modules a bit.
>>499351389>multiple blue belts worth of copper wire and iron gear production on 1 yellow belt
>>499346729Stormworks does it better, here is a water proof shipping container hold.
>>499349508people with aspergers reproducing is unfortunate
>>499351508Yeah, that's what you seem to be doing.This is the retardation you spewed:>>when something new comes out people will talk about it over old thingsThat's so unrelated to my point that it's not even a decent strawman. It's just completely irrelevant. If anything, you're doing a great job of looking like the exact type of person I was criticizing. So maybe you forgot your /jk or /s?Either way, you can't communicate with adults so stop posting.
>>499351940>implying that he is meLOLERS!!!!!1!!$1!go shitpost on /v/, loser.
>>499349508Based, but as a chaotic good enjenigger I WILL do a random turn of a bus if I feel like it.
>finally log into game after months>half my mods don't work (expected)>update what i can>start a new game>look at the baren landscape where my K2 base isn't>can be bothered to start from scratch again>alt f4Maybe I'll play tomorrow.
>>499350826>Are you even an engineer if you didn't calculate how long the range was going to be?>engineer>calculateI'm an engineer and I'm just gonna make educated guesses and have a beer every time I'm wrong. Think of it as underclocking. It takes longer but it saves significant energy,
/b/*
>>499350826>calculatePeople actually calculate in the game? if you need more of something slap down more shit then take it away until it all works well enough.
>>499270024
>>499352192Slap your way across that gap then>>499350568
>>499351441Trust me, I tried. This is how close it is. Just three tiles off from being able to connect.
>>499352353outrageously painful.
>>499352060Literally me
>>499349508SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DOI WILL BUILD MY FACTORY SPAGHETTI NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
>>499352353Does landfill not work in this situation?
Your fish will spoil in exactly 453000 ticks. You don't need to thank me.
feeling good about my first base :D
>>499323448That's how I handled k2 requiring rocket fuel despite LL making it into a liquid, but honestly it's a hack and a nuisancelooks like k2 is getting updates on github, so I'm being kept back by the "we have space age at home"mod (LLol, LLmao)it does look like raiguard is working on a K2 2.0 version at least, I'll have to download it and see just how much work I've got to add on myself to get a bunch of mods working
>>499339442You've probably already seen this, but:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNJS0iO9uyo
>>499349508honestly seems like a surefire way to make sure your kids never play multiplayer games with you againespecially by making them play in such a lame manner>NO! you may not expand the main bus when im not around. or even divert resources for new expansions. only i can do that!>NO!! you may not try to pre-plan a factory.>NO!!! you may not build there, you are not allowed to experiment. you have to build exactly where i tell you so that i dont need to bother with construction bots. >NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! HOW DARE YOU WEAVE A BELT AND MAKE IT TURN!!! DESTROY WHAT YOU JUST BUILT NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!
>>499349508>respect the city block layoutpeople like these manage to breed?Hell, are they allowed to?
>>499352353>>499352428wait, maybe cliff explosives? have you tried those.
>>499344685Just post here anyway. Satisfactory was in here when it released.
>>499349508i watched nilaus' series on captain of industry and it was honestly embarrassing. dude tries to force a central bus everywhere even when it makes no sense
>>499354071>>499353969>>499353883The man threw a temper trantrum in public at some random players with several thousand hours of experience in factorio because they played the game wronghe is the unfunny kind of autistic, the kind you need a wrangler for
>>499354258please for the love of god is there a video? even if its 10 seconds long i want to see it.
>>499354258daily reminder that this video where nilaus explains consensual sex existshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9XzBeuWuEA
>>499354331no, and let's not.
>>499353761I had not. That's amazing. Thank you, anon.
>tfw just barely got my first oil to unlock the path to chemical scienceMan. My bootstrap factories take forever.
Is it worth to wait some time for hotpatches for space age or should I just jump in today?
>>499354258>Nilaus turns to the current retainer of the world record of Factorio speedrunning>Calls him incompetent to his faceScrew being hype about Spage. I'd have killed to just be in that room and watch people interact.
>>499354498Just play the game if you want to. I'll personally refund the expansion for you if you come across a game breaking bug. No I won't, but you wouldn't need to claim it anyway.
Okay, I guess I'm just gonna hop on discord and look if they have a pre-packaged version or something
>>499353998I started on Fulgora. I haven't been to Vulcanus.
>>499354813Oh I'm not concerned about game breaking.More about recipe rebalancing and such.
Is this how you outpost?I would include construction bots as well, if I weren't using Invincible Construction Bots.
>>499354946So you might have to troubleshoot and rebuild a little portion of your factory?Oh no.
Was hoping to have Nullius done by now, but at least I'm coming into the final stretch.20 labs chugging away at ~1.4kspm, or just over 2k after productivity, and still staying pretty close to 24ups/24fps on my toaster -- at least when I'm zoomed all the way in to minimize render load.And provided Automatic Train Fuel Stop doesn't jam everything up yet again, should be done in a little over 24 hours. (I already have a massive stockpile of the bio science packs needed for the final tech, and 51 bio labs to run it in.)Space Age soon.
>>499355001also
God I love tiddies.
>>499355001YeahYou can do this in generic way by using constant combinator and simple mathematical operation which only needs 3 combinators for any amount of items iirc but as long as it works
>>499354884okay. Nevermind, not an option at all in any capacity yet.
>>499355271>no K2+Quality:(
>>499355364have you seen the rates at which advanced factories shit out stuff?Anyway guess I'm finishing my first k2 run on 1.1 nbd, at least I won't have to work on updating LL as well
>>499355271>K2 will not support SAWhy? What's the point even?And what will happen with space expiration?
>>499256384Fight them. COWARD.
>>499355687I imagine this is just an initial release. other planets will probably take a lot of design time
I hate this thread. It's full of dumb shit that isn't Factorio.
>>499355687>Why? What's the point even?Well, he got a job at wube.>And what will happen with space expiration?the way I see it SA is already going to be *the* overhaul mod, adding more on top of that is gonna be a lot of work. It's gonna take months and years before we get the same level of modding for 2.0 as we take for granted today: at least it's relatively painless for smaller mods.
i am not used to seeing this many biters in a swarm before blue scienceis this what happens when you spawn in a desert
>>499356102yeas we said before, you'd have gotten even worse rates for pollution spread without the new tile absorbtion changes, desert got buffed to x3 as muchalso understandable with a nest that close what the hell are you doing, go take it out
>>499356102They changes spawn logic, now biter attack group is much larger. I had deathworld experience with biters due to starting nest being near my initial patches, thats shit is busted till you get turrets and then they fall off the cliff and die in turrent spamrocket fuel tank + legs is op btw, you can just run over med worms without losing speed whole day
>>499356684>rocket fuel tank + legscan you actually put legs in tanks nowthat is so silly
>>499355271NOOOO RAIGUARD IS A ANIMEFAG!!! HE LIKES THE ENGI-GAL DOING A CAT MOUTH!I am disappointed. Almost as much as when I learned that Dosh was a shotacon.
are biters way less agressive now or is it just me
>>499356820yeah they have grid, I have run 2 with panels+batteries but maybe 3 is posible. once you get reactor can prog get 4/5 depending on reactor sizewith now quality ^)
My spaceship is FABULOUS and it's ready to explore new planets
>>499356928they seem to no expand that much but i am at 0.6 evolution and stomped every nest on visible map maybe it have kicked in yet
>>499356848I think you should go to bed and have a little sleep, anon, it's very late and you're making very silly posts.
>>499355271>Making radioactivity somewhat less obnoxiousThanks god. I have no idea how it's supposed to work but all I know is that even some basic armor makes you immune to it but you keep having your radiation alarm go off if you have a piece of uranium on you. What even is the point of this? Remove the alarm if you have an armor or are in a vehicle, it barely does damage anyway.
nuclear is so fucking easy now holy shit. everything from water/steam flow and nuclear fuel savings. you can even check the buffer inside the kovarex centrifuges to just limit the inserter.
>>499357029you can have science production on static platform and use different one to flyalso laser turrets suck in space
>>499357029>laser turrets>against silicon-based asteroidswho's gonna tell him?
>>499357029that is a rock with engines strapped to it
>>499357112basic armor doest not make you immune to ityou just need shields cos they outregen radioactive damage resulting in no harm being done
>>499357029cute spaceship anon, i like it
I've inadvertently come up with a single combinator self-resetting memory-cell-clock, i don't know why it works. No set reset latch and the looping value just disappears when the input signal stops. This clock makes me afraid.
>>499351389Holy shit this is awful and i fucking love it
>build bauxite->instant scrap->aluminum ingot factory>come back later to find it backed up with byproduct water and stopped>build the variable input priority junction thing>come back later to find it backed up with water again>underclock the water pump to slightly starve it of water>make sure the factory always runs at 100% with sufficient resources and no belt or pipe congestion and excess production going into the sink>it still somehow backs up after a whileWhat the FUCK is even the intended way to deal with it short of packaging and sinking the byproduct water? Why the fuck can't it be recycled internally when it's the same building that both takes and produces water? Who the fuck even thought it was a good idea when there's nothing even close to resembling a liquid sink or overflow valve in the game whatsoever? I understand they wanted a more complex production chain for aluminum but why turn it into a fucking puzzle that the game doesn't even offer a decent way of solving.
>>499357692I use height, return water is boosted to higher headlift than fresh water so only return water can fill storage tank above refineries.It's quite effective, never had it clog up regardless of demand fluctuation.
>>499355687>>499355918Raiguard doesn't want to design 200 more items and balance the entire game around space age. It more than doubles the work since he would still have to keep K2 vanilla alive. Same thing for SE. Earendel doesn't really want to make SASE because it's a lot of work. They can still use a lot of the new modding features, some of which are already implemented.It's simply much, much, much easier to mod for vanilla than SA since you know that the entire target audience of your mod has vanilla and vanilla is a lot more linear than SA.We'll likely have a bunch of major mods for SA but it will take time obviously. K2, SE, Ultracube and Nullius weren't created overnight. I don't think vanilla mods are going to stop being created either.
Pretty much the only major overhaul I know that has confirmed to be redesigned to work with SA is Py. It will take a very long time to be made but they're working on it.
>can't get on the rocket if you have blueprints in your inventoryfor what purposealso I found out something that is very cringewhen you drop back to the planet it puts you at the starting position, not where you launched fromi'm going to have to make a long ass railway just to get back and forth from spawn or some shit
>>499357959basically, yeah.
>>499356102>Anon attempts peaceful co-existence with hostile species Pre emptive strike motherfucker!
>>499357342Anon, is what you made called a... wire?
>>499358550>he havent made a rocket silo next to his crashed shipngmi
currently automating military scienceshould have looked up some speedrun strats
>>499357939I came to believe that any "working" setup is more of a result of the game bugging out in positive way than of an intentional design effort. I've had a one that worked fine too without even any buffers or pipe magic, but I wanted to move it from the main base and also try the alt recipes, and here we go.>return water is boosted to higher headlift than fresh water so only return water can fill storage tank above refineries.As far as I'm aware the water extractor will just keep pumping water as long as it has somewhere to go, so if it can reach the building at all it should still back up unless there's some more magic to it.
>>499358981It's counts up like a clock but it's not a memory cell. I must be a genius.
>>499358550That's a bug. It should teleport you to your landing pad.
>>499359215You also need a valve so it doesn't oscillate.The trick is to carefully tune pipe height so it can't fill pipes feeding refineries completely, water extractors will cut off when they try to fill pipe above headlift, just tune it to be only able to partially fill it and have a buffer above for when input taking water stops running but water output is still producing for a while.
>>499359557that's real dumb
>>499359557seems retarded and fiddly; let me shut off flow based on a condition
>>499359649erm no use case, engine limitationissue closed
>>499359649>>499359885factorichuds still seething over a game with more dimensions than yours?
>>499359628>>499359649It's the most reliable way I found so far, it's not affected at all by fluctuating production which always clogs up valve flow limit method.
>>499359969>an interstellar corporation that has mastered FTL travel and transmutation can't invent a working valve
>>499255316so if I have the expansion installed but for whatever reason still want to play a vanilla run, do I just disable space age in the mod manager? cause I tried that but then freeplay still says (spage age) when I go so start a new run.
Didn't Spage let you change around the outputs of your oil refineries?
>>499360126just... don't go into spess?
>>499351725my first playthrough taught me that its gears and circuits all the way to endgame. I got up to advanced oil cracking but deleted that shit was all over the place
bro just let me have pipelines on their own layeryea it removes some of the logistical challenge but i don't care, pipes are ugly and annoying and in real life they're 99% underground anyway
>>499360163nvm fixed it
>get an achievement that I pissed off aliens and they're attacking>10 minutes happens>no attackWHERE ARE THEYalso is there some 'best practices' tips list or should I yolo my first playthrough? I spent like 5 minutes figuring out how to put iron and coal on the same belt because belts connect automatically in a weird way and it offended my zoomer sensibilities
Wait, you can't throw grenades out of the car window now?
>>499355269please spoonfeedI found this but I don't understand itconstant combinator is clearly meant to contain whatever is needed, but other than that, I don't get it
>>499360935(what would make this easy is something like "every signal in green wire vs every signal in red wire, output false if any of them fail the condition", but I don't think I have that - so it requires some math/logic tricks I'm not aware of)
>>499360935and here's the full original blueprint, in case I missed anything
>rushing speed modules>almost there>realize to my absolute horror that there is not a single oil field on the map, I can't even use a car and I can't craft a radaroh.Oh no.
>>499360935>Minimal value of whatever should be in inventory stored in constant combinator * -1>Sum up with what actually is in inventory >Anything below -5? You are close to running out of something, call the trainUse -5 not 0 to prevent false positives generated by negative signals from bots picking up stuff.
>>499360560YOLO it and occasionally post pictures of your factories and people will give ya some tips if you're obviously missing something. Trying shit and figuring it out yourself is the best part of the game.
>>499360560Going in (mostly) blind is recommended, figuring out stuff for yourself is most of the fun.Some general tips would be>remember space is infinite, don't hamstring yourself by trying to build too compact >automate production of buildings whenever possible, just stick them in a chest limited to a slot or two so you have some of everything on hand when you need it
this is a loadout on a maxed up tank pre space, I can run over biter nests and oneshot them by impact but it also damages the tank (slightly and even less with shield)now imagine this with quality
>>499361587nests get more HP later on, don't they?
>>499361757I have no idea I am around 0.6 evolutionit is much faster than ks2 base tank with 2nd tier engines in comparisson and I still have nuclear fuel to go
i really wish you had a different set of hotbars when you are looking at the platformalso it is pretty unintuitive how shit on the platform works
Finally going to sleep after 14 hours straight of my Fulgora start. Just finished rocket fuel production, so not too much longer until I'm into space. I think I might end up having to rely on a space platform for the bulk of my iron and steel needs. Stone actually seems like it might become a bottleneck now that purple is up and running.
>got ACK'd by like 5 tiny alienshow do I even use my dinky pistol
>>499361587Do the exoskeleton actually work with the tank?
>>499357692I had this exact same issue after dozens of hours of the VIP setup working fine for me, so I just said "fuck it" and used the byproduct water to make wet concrete and eliminated the feedback loop entirely.I've seen some people say that the "intended" way to deal with byproduct water is to use it to supply recipes that consume water elsewhere. I've heard people say you can chain refineries, like set up 6 Alumina Solution refineries, then 3 Aluminum Scrap refineries, and the water produced by those 3 Scrap refineries will be enough to run 2 more Alumina Solution refineries, but when you convert that to Scrap you'll get 120 water as a byproduct again. Which is 1/3rd of what you had to start with, so maybe it's still worthwhile.In the past, I had 100+ hours of success by putting a buffer tank on both the input and output sides of the water cycle, then putting valves on the lines coming from the water pumps, and after enough byproduct water was in the system to keep everything going, I just closed the valve off. Alternatively, I've put a valve on the inputs and just done basic math to deduct the recycled water from the total water needs of the input step and used valves to make sure only that much water came in from the pumps. I haven't tested these in 1.0, though.
>>499362332yeah I even tested it by dropping reactor outit gives it full bonus
is there a way to take zoomed-in screenshots?feels like you lose practically all details, which sucks for screenshots
>>499362390In Satisfactory? Yes. Just press P and scroll up on your mousewheel. You can also hit right mouse button to take the screenshot in high-res mode.In Factorio? You're probably supposed to use your cell phone to take a picture of your computer screen directly.
>>499361587i had no idea the tank had equipment slots
>>499361757nyes
>>499362384So Wube actually buffed vanilla tanks speed. I'm surprised. You can make a tank go faster than a car now.
>>499362390
>>499361404>Sum up with what actually is in inventoryhow
Why do I need to put my ammo in a chest when I move planet but I can keep my armor, grid and 3 weapons up my ass? At least let me keep a stack for self-defence...
>>499362926Either connect to roboport and get total inventory or connect all chests with one color of wire together then connect that to the output of that + -1 combinator, same types of signals will be summed up automatically.
>>499363193>same types of signals will be summed up automatically.oh
>>499362926>>499363305How do you think train stops with multiple chests and train limit work?Of course they have to sum up same signal types
>>499362234Hover your mouse in the general direction of the badguys and hold space.
Haha yes, very funny wube. Now how the fuck do I deconstruct only legacy rails and disable the retarded quality confirmation when selecting recipes in literally anything you fucking niggers.
>>499364104>Quality confirmationI just double click. There might be a checkmark somewhere but double clicking when selecting the recipe just sets it to any.
>>499364104you can double click a recipe to choose the non-quality option
>>499363760I guess it's hard to fully "get" the circuit wireI'm used to things with more... explicit or visible input/output directions on everything, I guess? or being forced to select one or two signals to logic-gate at a timeexperience is with redstone and modded logic gates (only one signal type, or if using bundled cable, you split off the specific signal color to use)and LUA computers (download a program, or maybe make an if-else loop)
>>499360926anon you could always do that
surely there's a better way to supply machines with 3+ inputs?
>>499360337>in real life they're 99% underground anyway
>>499360926I seemed to struggle with it for a second to, but it's right click. If it's always been right click while holding grenades on your courser then.. oops. I feel like it was left click before. But whatever. Nades in hand, right click biters and trees.
>>499364859They are called long handed inserters.
>>499364859try using the funny red arms, they reach farther
>>499364859LONGLONGMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Finally connected purple and yellow to my labs at the same time hopefully tomorrow I launch out of the shithole that is nauvis but now I slep
Look at all those iron patches i found (0)
How do other planets work once you launch to a different one do they just time stop or do they keep producing stuff?
>>499365634Fug. I want that. I like trains. Give me your seed. I want it.
>>499365776they just work
>>499365776Nope, everything keeps chugging away, biters keep nibbling away at your walls, your iron patch runs out, biters unlock behemoths on their tech tree, all that good stuff.
>>499360560DO NOT GO BLIND, GO ON REDDIT/YOUTUBE AND GET BLUEPRINTS FOR EVERYTHING!!!!! YOUR FACTORY WILL SUCK IF YOU DON'T USE MIN-MAXED BLUEPRINTS FOR EVERYTHING!!!! I HIGHLY RECOMMEND NILAUS TUTORIALS
>>499364859here, have this blueprint
Is it possible to fend off behemoth spitters and biters without leaving nauvis? What I mean is, using only the technology available to you without venturing into space.
almost done with my walls bros. now i only need to hook up some more of those tiny default setting sized mines, build prod and utility science, and then i can finally leave this planet behind.
>>499366207>implyingthe game wants you to build your main factory on nauvisbest labs are nauvis-only
>5% of players already got steam powerI wonder if it's mostly new players or old fags
>>499364863that's a refinery, which is represented in-game by a single building, where you can see all the bajillion pipes running this way and that way on its model.what your picture conveniently doesn't show is the resulting petrol products flowing via either underground or elevated pipe to further processing plants, and then to storage tanks.do you see a single pipe just laying on the ground or barely elevated above it? no, every single pipe there is at least above head height.
>>499356928Yeah I did a bit of clean up at the start and then got 8h without a single attackActually had to check that I wasnt in peaceful mode, they dont seem to expand at all for some reason
do display panels work like nixie tubes, can I set them to display the active numbers of things?
>>499366389are you in a forest?
>>499365882>>>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<<<
How do i stop my (nauvis) bases from all being the same?Ever since i discovered the bus, my first base always looks like this. I kinda miss the spaghetti of my first playthrough, this is getting boring.
>>499366454Yes kinda, does it make that much of a diff?
>>499366520Yeah. I started in a dessert with moderate trees because I hate clearing them up, and I get attacked sometimes.
>>499366520YesForest is essentially easy mode, desert is hard mode even with the same settings difference is massive
>>499366345true, but it'll be nice coming back with those new toys
What's a general ratio of Pumpjack to Refinery(s) to Storage Tank(s)?I never really got a grasp of oil products in Factorio.Also, do you think it's better to produce all of my oil derivitaives at the pump field or should I just send the petroleum back to home via train for processing?
>>499359557>The trick is to carefully tune pipe height so it can't fill pipes feeding refineries completely, water extractors will cut off when they try to fill pipe above headlift, just tune it to be only able to partially fill it and have a buffer above for when input taking water stops running but water output is still producing for a whileI actually ended up with a similar setup at one point, except the pipes were full but the buffer was only half filled when it clogged. I don't really see how half-filling the pipes would make any difference, but oh well maybe it does.>>499362340>I've seen some people say that the "intended" way to deal with byproduct water is to use it to supply recipes that consume water elsewhere.Sounds like a recipe for more things to get stuck at once. Also a big fuck you when you just want a standalone facility specialized on a single thing.>and used valves to make sure only that much water came in from the pumpsI did this by downclocking the extractor and it still didn't work. Maybe the factory didn't actually run at 100% for some reason and there was still an excess of water but I couldn't find any reason it would.Logically thinking, if one pump is above the other when pumping into the same junction, it should have a higher head lift and take priority since head lift should try to even out. But given that the water tower hack exists, and also that it's actually the opposite of how some tutorials illustrate the VIP junction schematics where the lower pump is prioritized I'm not sure how much real world physics you should apply here if at all. On the other hand, that's how the setup that worked for me was configured. I'll need to do some experiments when I get back home.
>>499366519that's a pretty weak bus, not much better than spaghetti
can someone link a good train scheduling tutorial?i have been spoiled by LTN and am completely lost without it now. it doesnt help that most train tutorials deal primarily with signals, not with scheduling.i just want depots that send out trains as needed
>>499366519just don't do a bus
>>499364859belt weaving, long armers are faggots
>>499366864pumpjacks slow down after lots of use, just go by feel.refinery to storage tank, no ratio, just go one tank per liquid. what you need to think about is the ratio of refineries to chemical plants. you want to be able to crack all the heavy and light oil to petro.
>>499367063
>>499365117the only stat that should have increased with rarity for long arm inserters should have been the reach length
Anybody got a roughly spoiler free (preferably image) guide for a non-stupid way to properly do quality based stuff? I want to go full quality, but sorting all the different quality stuff is filtering me.I can't look through the thread for one either as I'm still avoiding all spoilers. Got my red chips and started diving head first into quality.
>>499367365max quality levels unlock with progression so you can't even do it properly until almost endgame
>>499367365i won't bother too much with automating quality until i get a recycler.Put a couple quality modules into some end product you regularly mass produce like solar panels. Then save the uncommon+ ones that fall out for your space platforms.Or slap a couple on intermediates and box the uncommons and above to manually make a desired item of higher quality.
>>499367929>Or slap a couple on intermediates and box the uncommons and above to manually make a desired item of higher quality.this is the way before endgamemass production feeds labs and general industry. For key quality items you want to filter as early as possible as soon as you use quality modules and quasi-handcraft what you need from those
>>499364859>>499367063the truth is that belt weaving and long arms are both tools at your disposal and neither is a catch all solution.
>>499368598this is the only use for long arms, every other use is wrong and bad
>>499369118Why is there copper plates in one of those?
>>499369431copper steel
>caught epic fishcertified boomer game
>>499369762I thought you could only get it from recycling spidertrons though?
>>499366102Cute art, would put on the fridge door/10.
is there a copy+paste mode like shapez2 functions for factorio? I know blueprints are a thing but I don't have them unlocked and I don't really want to use them. just want to build a section then copy paste real fast as needed instead of manually selecting each part
>>499370932Nope, that's why more experienced players rush construction bots and some people mod a bot start.
>>499371138>people
>>499367626>>499367929>Wait until laterOkay, but that doesn't really answer my question. Let's say it's later and more stuff has unlocked for me, how do I order my belts and inserters or whatever else in such a way as to get better quality with the least amount of hand feeding and manual intervention?
>>499366156Flamethrower turrets
This cliff gen is nice.Look at this easily defensible oil spot.
>>499371936in essence if thing is below X rarity you just send it to the shadow realm with filter splitterssince input quality decides output quality you could run your entire base on higher quality by just feeding it high quality base materials, but the higher you go in rarities to more stupid the gacha gets
>>499371936Create a belt loop that prioritizes the ouput from the recyclers
>>499366156Once you unlock flamethrower turrets biters are a solved problem.
>>499372251Yea, instead of having holes everywhere the cliffs now actually act like cliffs, the world gen in general is huge improvement
>>499371936If you futz about you might be able to do something clever but I don't think it's worth worrying about quality until you get the recycler. Before that you just have to use splitters on all your lines to pull out anything above normal quality and either make a slow factory with just that stuff or box it up and feed stuff manually. Once you get the recyclers then you can make some loops to spit out quality stuff more reliably but before that? Just gotta put splitters on the output lines of anything with quality modules and send off anything quality to somewhere else in your factory that's built specifically for handling quality builds if you want to engage with quality before your fulgora trip.
>>499372704God damn that feels stupid to read. I should have worded it better but eh. Hopefully you get what I mean. Good luck, engineer. I'm going to bed.
>60 military science packs/minute need 0.525 grenades/sec>to make those grenades we need at least 6 assembling machines producing them, resulting in 0.563 grenades>this guarantees a leftover for personal usesmall things like these just shows how well the game is designed
>>499372876>How many grenade assemblers do i need?Idk just slap 4 of em down.>How many military science assemblers do i need?How about 4?>Walls?This one i'll put 2, they craft quick.Maybe in the future i will care about ratios.
Wube took a lot of stuff from The Furry, didn't they? The way you get the rocket, the way space science progresses, recycling, smelting, space ships, more module tiers (from quality); biomes and textures (to be fair, thats the main reason they hired him), ending (sort of?), types of planetsOf course with more unique mechanics and optimization as you would expect from a fully fledged company that isnt one guy working for free
>>499373004yes yes, here, very based of you
>>499373029I thought Bob was the furry. Why's everyone calling Earendel furry?
>>499373079Thanks
>>499373029the furry's sweaty paws are all over it. I was wrong in thinking they'd leash him back, guess he's just not into that despite being a degenerate. his furry paws are also all over the mod portal, 9/10 "most popular" mods are his.
>>499373179>9/10 "most popular" mods are his.I mean he does great mods and is autisic enough to dedicate a lot of time in his life on those mods.Every exceptional mod maker has some sort of mental illness. Just look at the guy from IR for example and him sperging out. Furry is at least hiding somewhere, doing his stuff, keeping it cool.
Well now I remember why I got filtered out once I hit purple packs, I'm almost gnashing my teeth over here just thinking about how to figure out how to get all of the different bullshit I need from these oil refineries for blue packs.What is the method? Do I just pump/deliver raw gas from the field back to my base for production or should I be running trains in with materials for battery production and all that shit? Should I even bother with barreling liquids? I don't think I ever bothered when I last played.The biggest headache is just trying to think of the rat's nest of pipe routing it's going to take to figure this shit out between the water, refineries, running sulfur out of the chem plants and then back into another chem plant for sacid and I can't even flip the fucking input tubes on these things which just makes the pipe routing even shittier.
>>499373769>can't even flip the fucking input tubes on these things which just makes the pipe routing even shittier.This is a genuine complaint and I'm tired of pretending the current system is good.Anyways just run crude to base, have storage tanks for everything and when you get too much of a single fluid just flush one tank.
this doesn't work as well as i hoped it wouldthe fluids just don't flow fast enough to keep the refinery running constantly
>>499373769I can't give a full response right now but barreling? Nah. Use fluid trains to deliver oil from small storage at the pumps to large storage at the base. Pipes will always be more messy than belts, but with advanced oil processing, as long as you leave gaps in the refinery output/storage, you can use that space for cracking. Consider using some simple wiring to check something like "is heavy oil greater than 25k? Start this pump and get cracking"
>>499286317>the new remote view also looks like shitwhat's wrong with it?
>>499373769>can't even flip the fucking input tubes on these thingsWasn't that one of the things they added in 2.0?
>>499373769>filteredIt begins>What is the method?Depends on how your production is set up, I personally think that running oil trains and sending all the oil to a refinery array near where my main production is set up is less of a hassle. For the yellow and purple you don't need light and heavy oil, just petro gas and sulfuric acid, so you can crack it in the meantime to simplify your life, later you may use circuits to deal with light oil or just coal liquefaction, but that's later.Purple is iron heavy, yellow is copper hungry, you may need to set new furnace arrays for that.>should I be running trains in with materials for battery production and all that shit?Don't bother except if it's distant, just focus on one product at a time.>Should I even bother with barreling liquids?Don't, just use pipes.
>>499374192oh it has 100% uptime like this
>>499374192>>499374597is fluid mixing a thing now???
>>499374508 (me)Sorry, for yellow you do need lubricant for electric engines, but you don't need much, just parasite some heavy oil to one or two chemical plants when you need it.
factorio widowmaker mod guy:how do i get on her bike?
>>499374694shouldn't have embargo'd on the FFFs my friend
>tfw was I retarded and used different pipes for different fluids
>>499324205>Not sure how trains are supposed to work without loaders. To be useful they need to be loaded faster than the consumer consumes. If the consumer consumes at a rate of 1 blue belt then the train must be loaded and unloaded with 2+ blue belts so that it can work without interruption. The train can then supply multiple consumers. Vanilla factorio makes trains either useless or completely changes how logistics work. If they can only be loaded slowly with inserters then each consumer must have 1 or 2 dedicated trains.>Satisfactory does it better. The trains carry containers which are filled with the items and those containers are dropped off quickly. In my SE run a buffer chest was loaded/unloaded at a rate of 5 blue belts. This resulted in a similar effect.use stack inserters for gigantic throughput
>>499360935>>499361170I don't know why you're playing on an old patch, but they added the exact behaviour you're asking for in 2.0
>>499375442yes, nobody does that since 0.17
>>499371138oh. are there any qol mods I should use. the unnecesary tediousness is kind of killing my interest
>>499375442just for reference, fluid mixing still isn't a thing, a pipe can only hold 1 type of fluid and the same rule applies to that fluid networkonce the network is devoid of all fluid, a different type of fluid can enter it, regardless of the inputs connected to itmismaching fluids will just build up in the machines
>>499374192Mixing fluids is cursedYou refine oil to separate them apart, not to fucking mix them together
>>499374694That was already the case. Have you not seen that extremely cursed acid-lubricant mixed pipe? The advanced oil processing with only one output pipe?
>>499375638Its the new combinator shit?
didn't build a bus, base is a complete mess and I haven't even done blue science
I had too much fuel so my plastic stopped workingMade it into turbofuel to feed it into theseI still have too much fuel but now also way too much power and not enough compacted coalhm...
Why do people say 240 steel furnaces for a red belt of steel when the math says 250?
itjustworks.toddhoward
>>4993766261 red belt of ore into one red belt of iron = 48 steel furnaces5 iron plates turns into 1 steel, melting time is the sameTherefore 48*5 = 240
>>499376626Because your math is wrong.
>>499376751Nice goatse system.
For fuck's sake this is how much I had to travel for a trickle of oil How the hell am I gonna do this, barrel the fucking thing and bail?Look at the size of those fucking nests holy shitand some of those are fire biters so they're gonna be immune to flamethrowers
>>499376903>made me look up what that meansEFL subhuman, kill yourself
>>499377327>newfagGet out
>>499377370kill yourself dog
>>499373179>>499373179Thats because youre only looking at the 2.0 updated mods. He updated all his mods except for SE to 2.0 well in advance to the release since he had access to the new API. Give it time, the other modders will finish updating their mods and things will balance out.
>>499377327>introducing somebody to goatse in this day and ageMan I feel fucking old.While we're at it, not that your 15 year old self will understand this, but you just lost the game.
>>499377694what game? the game of being a disgusting faggot? thank god
>>499376751That is both ingenious and terribly inefficient, bravo
>>499377325you probably have a close patch in another direction
>>499377327now go look up lemon party and blue waffle
>oil refineries can be connected to the circuit network now>>499378154not remotely interested
>>499377327Man this made me remember what a fun place the internet used to be. Thanks for the nostalgia, zoomie.
we need more erotic factorio mods
>>499378527I want to turn biter spawners into living cum milking pods.
>>499378461yeah it used to be a fun place, but not for the reasons you seem to think
>>499378527a guy posted a widowmaker mod on /v/https://gofile.io/d/Z4ES8dapparently not much traction, look at the dl countalso skins the car to look like a bike, or it's supposed to, but it doesn't work. no contact info, gonna post it every thread i see next few days to see if i can catch him
>>499378732Too old
>>499378732Why would someone play as a french purple hag? There isn't even any nudity.
Crafting my power armor, figured it's finally time to gamba.I don't think I'll be able to continue in world after this for a bit, as I need to set up rails to expand and I'm going to spend a few hours in the editor making some rail intersections.After I get a few external patches though, it's time to go to space. Still can't decide between fuggora or vulcanus.
>>499379929Update: I did not roll the 2%. Surely this is earendel's fault
>hey you should use green modules if you want aliens to fuck off>one green module costs 5 red circuits and 5 green circuits>my 5hrs in shitbase would already need hundreds of green modules to fill every slotdid I get trolled or
>>499380403>Can't even produce a few hundred modulesSkill issue on your part
I see some many people raging over the price (mainly because I'm specifically searching for negative opinions)does this happen for other games too?
>>499380762I think the steam forums have a lot of third worlders.It's crazy because factorio doesn't even have a ton of anti-piracy measures, it's mainly making the mod portal much better if you buy the game.
>>499380762No, you can sell any unfinished slop for twice the price and nobody will bat an eye.
>>499380762Poorfags will always complain of any price above $10.
>>499380762those are just falseflaggers and epik memesterselden ring DLC is dogshit and it costs 40 euros and nobody is complaining
no I must admit to myself the truth. I find shapez2 to fit my ideal for this kind of thing more than factorio. >>499380762afaik the real rage is that it never goes on sale. also mods require a game license lol
>>499380403The most important things to do to get biters to fuck off at the start is to kill their bases that touch your pollution, and have a base in a forest.Killing spawners raises evo, but it's still a single-digit percentage of the evo contribution until you go full scale genocide
>>499380762why in the world would a customer ever be happy about a price increase?
>>499381275SA did not increase in price
>>499381335But Factorio did, several times and people raged every timebesides, it is pretty weird and jewish to price the DLC the same as the main game
>>499378732>1gbwhat the fuck, its just a sprite
>>499380403>did I get trolledyes
>>499379929items roll quality when craft starts, you can cheese green/rare quality items you want for early game by savescamming with moderate paincgeesing rare tank/power armor is a good idea
>>499381407>it is pretty weird and jewish to price the DLC the same as the main gameI never understood this point. Is it really that hard to not buy something you think it's not worth? Maybe I just don't understand the modern consumer culture.
can I now spam logistic network on rails everywhere without stupid bots being caught in no energy loops killing themselves?
>>499380403If your base can't even sustain one assembler making greens, I think you should focus on getting more iron, copper, and plastic.
>>499381407if you were memory wiped about wube and factorio right now, and the base game price changed to $60 and the DLC was at 35, you wouldn't be complaining at all right nowsee, that's how big of a retarded cattle faggot you are
>>499381980I'm not saying it's worth it, I'm saying the pricing strategy is weirdother games usually price the DLC at half the price of the main game, I can't recall any games where the DLC was 1:1 in price like Factorio is
>>499380403You learned faster than most.
Whats the point of ore patches running out?
>the Wube asslickers have arrived
new rail pathfinding is like a drunk
>the /v/ermin infestation is rising
I tested the theory from a few days ago about speed and I think I found a bug. Remember the math about legendary mech armor, exoskeletons and fusion reactors? Well in theory each exoskeleton should only drain 200kw each, 26 total for a constant drain of 5.2mw, a legendary fusion reactor produce 6.25mw so it should be enough to power them... Except it's not. Contrary to what the game says, legendary exoskeletons drain MORE energy than normal ones. It works for normal exoskeletons but if you put legendary instead, you won't be able to power them to full. Batteries are not enough to compensate and legendary solar panels aren't enough either. You must use 2 reactors or else you will go at a speed of 937.5% (slightly more with solar) instead of 1800% from using 2 reactors. This should either be fixed to drain 200kw or be updated to show the actual drain (like roboports do).The current numbers for those who are interested:Max viable speed: 160.236 tiles per second (5 chunks per second)Time to reach the end of the world from 0,0: 104 minutes.Number of shield/health research required: 0At this speed, you outrun the tree and biter nest generation and won't have to fight anything. Mech armor flies over everything, including worms and biters so you can in theory rebind your movement key and afk (but you'll likely die at the world border if you do that without a timer setup). This may vary with better cpu but I can't test that for obvious reasons.tldr: Drain stat on exoskeleton is a lie but reaching the end of the world is possible in less than 2 hours. You can outrun world gen.Who is gonna do it first in a legit game?
I don't need to put red/green wires on my rail blueprints anymore, right? Since the radars got changed to carry wire signals
>>499382232>I'm saying the pricing strategy is weirdwell, that's because they just price it based on what they think it's worth instead of using the normal (manipulative) industry strategieskovarex talks about this stuff in an interview and it's pretty respectable
>>499382910that's just cope for being bad at marketingtheir profits would have been far higher if they took their heads out of their asses and didn't do price increases, got rid of their no sales policy and priced the DLC accordingly>b-b-but it's manipulativeoh no, imagine the possibility of buying a game for a cheaper price!! The horror!!
>>499382854all radars share a single signal
>start a run>4 enemy bases>6 hours in>several new ones popped upwhatwhy
>>499332737>work on some asshole's AI networkIs there much money in creating tiny marine combat robots in current year?
>>499383565>what>whyBecause that's how the game works, doofus.
>>499383293so what you're saying is that they should be more like pic related
>>499383293why are you so worried about how much money they make? is this just a weird jew thing? mind your business lol
>>49938329325$ for SA, 10$ for quality, and 10$ for elevated railscheaper and more DLC>imagine the possibility of buying a game for a cheaper price!! The horror!!the whole purpose of game sales is that most people buy it just because it's cheaper and then they most likely never touch it
>>499376751reminds me of tubgirl
>>499383293This has been discussed to death. Literally every thread on Factorio on /v/ devolves into annoying poorfags like you complaining about the price. Just make a thread there and fuck off, some of us here would like to actually talk about the game.
>>499383293well?
i have a question about the dlc. is there an objective or a series of objectives following the first launch? i get that it's probably just fun to create and manage a few planets and asteroids but was curious if there were a bigger objective in this dlc.
I didn't even see the reply chain, lemme hide it
man i hope this piece of junk makes it to vulcanus in one piece.can i turn around if my ship gets damaged too much?
>>499354414>daily reminder that this video where nilaus explains consensual sex exists>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9XzBeuWuEA [Embed]
wow this sucks in new and interesting ways>crippled my ship and had to scuttle it when I got here
>>499378732I just tried this mod but the bike recipes that it adds fucks up other recipes so you cant hand craft stuff like belts and poles
>still not in space after 20 hoursam I retarded
>>499384398how did you play for 20 hours?
>>499383565Never played with enemy expansion on?
>>499384398make more things that make things
>>499383982No idea what you anons are bitching about but that price increase was known since the game first released to the world in alpha.They let you pay less as long as it's an unfinished product.That's how early access has been handled ages ago since it's only fair.
>>499382375What are you waiting for? Start railroading.
motherfuckers lied, been waiting for hours there aint no fucking eggs in these
>>499384779Anon, I...
>>499384779you have to manually insert engineer cum
>>499382375toggle it to obstacle avoidance mode with R and it will follow the trails
It's retarded that they didn't make new walls and have you building stone walls on a fucking spaceship what kind of caveman shit is that
>>499385392pipes have more health than walls :)
>>499385235oh not that's not what I mean, I mean having three diagonals with kinks in-between instead of two straight sections and a diagonal in-betweenalso isn't R rotate
>>499385392Concrete and stone in general is actually really fucking good when you're trying to make something very, very solid. The reason it's not used for aircraft is because it's also very, very heavy.
Cheesing contracts by dragging old landers to places they were never intended to go
>>499385392are walls even useful?
>>499385765I would assume without them any rocks that get through defenses wreck your platform
>>499255316How's the new Factorio expansion?I assume every single fucking mod in existence is broken beyond belief now.
>>499386106A lot of modders updated to 2.0 before release. K2 isn't updated because Raiguard was too busy making space age. The expansion is good.
>>499386106Goooood, come try it out anon.
>>499386318>>499386319Very nice.I'm currently busy with a different game, I will get the expansion as soon as Halloween rolls over
I love shotgunning trees
>>499386508i'm waiting for teh sale too
>>499386318Yup and he probably won't be working on it soon, he goes on vacation at the end of the month.>>499386508>I'm currently busy with a different gameWhatcha playing anon?>>499386953Factorio doesn't go on sale but if you're waiting for steam cards that makes more sense.
>>499387184now that the game is done and the expansion is out the base game will likely go on sale soon
>>499387353In case you're not trolling, the head dev has said that the amount of sales they get justify not putting it on sale.[/spoiler]
>devs killed my Nullius run
>>499387614Go to the website, steam, or gog and grab the version before 2.0 released.
>>499383583even for the fact that networks are freeform and can be designed on your own volition with no restrictionsthere's no way it's possible to mask this as "training some fag's models for free" considering how much deep level customization there is, nobody is going to let some random retard on the internets shit up their data with 3 neurons connected to eachother in a loop
>been so long since I started a new run I've forgot basic oil ratios, too used to "fuck it slap down more">going to need to remind myself, and set up an actual fucking factory, now that I have my pumpjack downwell, at least I have plenty of iron stockpiled, time to figure out how many steam engines I can get away with off one refinery to a dedicated power line
>>499387807why should I do the work that the DEVS should have been doing?
>>499388069version controlling your mods is your own job, dumbass
>>499388069Bait used to be believable.
How do I lay down rails over the ghosts before bots? I can't find a way except removing the ghost first
do you think kovarex lurks in these threads?
>>499388242Just build normally over them, the ghosts will turn red and be removed automatically.
>>499388369he's the one that says you don't HAVE to use quality, then makes it a mandatory dependency.
Good lord, I can finally make a base now and stop half-assing and hand-feeding absolutely everything.
>>499388242Manually place them. You don't have to remove the ghost. Hit the arrow with your cursor like you already are and just click down. I did it earlier while in a train really fast 10/10>>499388369No, apparently he doesn't browse anything on the internet Factorio related. He didn't even know there were mods like recipe book.
>>499388369no, Kovarex doesn't give a shit about 60 retards shitposting in a shitty general on /vg/, you are not nearly as important as you think
>>499388069>has a problem>given easy solution>"but why should I do the work? the complete engine overhaul should be compatable with everything before!"
>>499388502>>499388461thanks guys figured it out
>>499388502He post on the meme subreddit and the general subreddit. Other than that he doesn't really browse factorio related things.
>Don't have to put landfill below every single blueprintI would have paid $30 for that alone
>>499387807We are back, thanks Anon.
>>499388639Enjoy, anon!>>499389053Treat yourself to some red circuits.
Why build train when you can not build train?
>>499389461i will agree with you as long as you're able to prove that dragging two straight miles of belts is more fun
>>499331531literally the best track in the entire game, but I haven't gotten to the other planets yet.>>499339442me and my friend have a tradition of listening to gachimuchi while playing factorio
>>499389461Why not build train when you can build train?
>>499387184>Whatcha playing anon?
>>499390825Chinese genocide simulator?
>>499272192Xurious
>>499272192The game soundtrack. Bruno Mars before SA
I just launched the rocket in the base game for the first time. Still a lot to do, I think. So I'm not sure if I need to play the dlc right away
>>499391075unironicallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNWvBZWgrAs
>>499391403Is that thrust vectoring on the rocket?
>>499376467Fuel gets much easier to balance once you get the nitrofuel alt recipe
>>499391494meant >>499272192 whatev
>>499377927The Game is a mind game in which the objective is to avoid thinking about The Game itself. Thinking about The Game constitutes a loss, which must be announced each time it occurs.
>>499390864Total War Three Kingdoms.So yeah, technically yes.
>>499391494>sunn 0)))exquisite taste.
>>499391796Ah okay, wrong game but it still applies. Based.
Can I make a generic "if empty cargo go to `[wildcard fluid]Pickup`station" and have it match "[light oil]Pickup" and "[heavy oil]Pickup"? Or do I need to name all the pickup stations the same?
I normally play with biters pretty neutered, so I'm a bit lost with what to do next. So far I've just been manually hitting every biter nest in my pollution, but I don't think that's scalable now that I need to control other patches.What is people's approach to normal biter management now that I'm reasonably up the tech tree? I can make most of what I need no problem, but I do need to get more of everything right now and I ideally don't want to make a giant wall around my entire base (but I will if that's the easiest way).
>>499393239use cliffs and bodies of water to save on walls
>>499393349I have very little in terms of cliffs and lakes (Rail world gave me very little of them)I do remember from world creation that there were oceans down below and in the top left, but for now that puddle in my starter base is my only source of water.I might just go with a wall since it's the most foolproof once I leave the planet and it will also let me spread full roboport coverage safely (which is nice for remote behaviors), I kinda rubber ducked myself into it.
>>499309806>Starting in the desertIt was your fault
>>499393876being surrounded by a ring of forest? Lowkey gigabrain, the center point always kills trees but letting it spread out a bit makes a good wall.
>>499394196I've also always liked how forests look, and grenades quickly solve the annoyance that trees cause while building.
Am I supposed to bring all the ingredients for a rocket silo to build one on another planet so I don't get stranded there?
>>499394305you're supposed to bring one bullet for the flight home.
>>499394305i don't think you can lock yourself out of building a rocket silo on the first 3 planets.
>>499393876this kinda sucks cock because you have water chokepoints
Man, ratios are fucking weird.I'm a bit of a casual player and usually lay my base out to have 4 belts of each copper and iron plates on the bus. And I've just realized that to get the two belts of green circuits I want, I would need to siphon off 3 of those copper beltsCan I just wing it and hope that since I won't constantly consume green circuits this will more or less work out?
>>499395394Why not just run copper belts directly to your green circuits, off of the bus?
>>499395394u should probably do 8 belts iron and copper before it's too late
>>49939547312 belts of iron, delete 5 to make 1 belt of steel, delete 4 more for a belt of gears, then 4 belts of copper.
>>499349508>The Boy(S)>he has more than one kidJesus christ. This is unironically the bad kind of autism.
>>499394445
>>499395394I usually import green circuits because it's much more efficient
>>499349508https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBAZVFMnPA
>>499395458>>499396373You might have a point I could just make a dedicated smelting array just for green circuits.>importdon't have anywhere to import it from this is my first base. I'm not good at "starter bases", I usually end up building on to my build until I get bored of the game and quit...usually somewhere around nuclear power.>>499395473Hmm, I'll make sure to leave room for 4 extra belts>>499395734>delete 5 to make 1 belt of steelI have a smelting array blueprint with two rows of furnaces that turns ore into steel directly actually.
how much shit do I need to take for the first ride to the new planet?
With the new pipeline system, what's the best way to get a pipeline for flamers going? In the past I just ran a pipe since it didn't need to be packed full, but if I have to put a pump every so often now it makes things much more directional.
playing again after years only reminds me how much a slog early game Factorio is. like even without the add-on I'd be excited for late game stuff because I only got to that point twice. but I guess I'm never focused enough to properly rush through the early game.
>early game goes smooth as silk>compact starter base making red, green and mil>time to expand>decide to use double-sided trains for the first time (mistake #1)>also decide to try out the interrupt system and make them generic wildcard trains (mistake #2)>secure mining outposts of all the major resources>working on my big smelting columns and main bus>where the fuck are the ores>look on map view, all my trains are deadlocked in some intersection>manually unfuck them, fix the intersection so there are more paths>deadlocks keep happening>fuck with signals>keeps happening>fuck with schedules and interrupts>keeps happening>make more lanes>keeps happening>after a few hours, I realize that my train system is fundamentally flawed because I have no idea how double-sided trains or interrupts work, but it's too big to rebuild so I resign to just manually fix deadlocks when they happen>want to restart, but already 8 hours into the run, and I've almost got a rocket, so I keep going (mistake #3)>the process of building a space platform and getting space science while starved for resources by deadlocked trains is so slow and painful I start getting suicidal thoughts>finally research thruster and Vulcanus>decide that Nauvis is too far gone, so I'll just go to Vulcanus and forget it exists>make the bare minimum platform with one thruster and a few turrets with one ammo assembler (mistake #4)>get 2/3rd to Vulcanus, run out of ammo, half my platform gets destroyed>barely make it, drop down and salvage the rest of the platform>now I live on Vulcanus, it's a fresh start where I don't have to worry about my past mistakes>realize that Vulcanus without any support from Nauvis is really difficultSo how have your runs gone? Mine is just great.
>>499391516I don't really see the need to try and balance fuel. Just slap down generators until it doesn't clog up the pipes
>>499398434I'm still on Nauvis, just setting up green science and thinking about returning to train based barrels only that I was doing before 2.0 droppedsurely the new circuit and train toys will make it all less painful
>>499395394But you will constantly consume green circuits, they're some of the most in demand intermediates
holy the train pumps are slow now
>>499398434>get 2/3rd to Vulcanus, run out of ammo, half my platform gets destroyed>barely make it, drop down and salvage the rest of the platform>now I live on Vulcanus, it's a fresh start where I don't have to worry about my past mistakesliterally me today
>>499399293>surely the new circuit and train toys will make it all less painfulProbably if you do them right.I assumed that I understood how it worked and made a massive train system based around shit that I in fact, did not understand at all. I'm thinking of just fucking around in the lab (Editor Extensions) and actually figuring out how they work properly, and then starting a new run.Another problem of mine is I really wanted to rush to the new content (other planets), so I didn't plan out my Nauvis base very well and it really fucked me over on many occasions.I would recommend to other Anons to avoid rushing and build a good foundation.
>>499264641The Factorio general >>499251000 didn't even last a day
>>499399951it did get trips in OP though which is cool
>>499396584>epic gear>not legendary gearI'd be worried about hiring this guy
>>499354258>>499354664I had the misfortune of playing with people like this and it really is the worst. OCD, autistic, whatever you want to call it, it isn't fun to play with. He sperged out anytime the power lines weren't in a straight line. Everything had to be straight lines or he'd sperg. He also tried making a bus but didn't even do that right and would freak out if everything wasn't aligned properly. Another thing he'd sperg out about was if yellow inserters or assembling machine 1s were used. Everything had to be blue or above.
>>499384383it adds a bike recipe???for me the bike does nothing. it's an "unsorted" recipe that costs nothing, has a blackened icon, and takes 0.5s to producehow are we getting different results?i'm on 2.0.8 and this is the only mod i have loaded
>>499400450>He sperged out anytime the power lines weren't in a straight line.Oops, I meant the overhead copper cable for the power lines. He needed those to be in a straight line. Well, he needed both to be. He went on a 10 minute tirade about "I've never seen anyone build like this!" This is the second time I've met some faggot new player that watches a fucking nilaus or bus video and thinks it's the only way to play.
>>499400714why is the bike blurred
>>499378732Some of those sprite sheets are 8k.
>>499400450let the OCD man have his straight lines. However, main busses are pure reddit shittery. They immediately identify the trash scrubs.
Wake up peasants, the best mod got updated to 2.0 https://mods.factorio.com/mod/girlfriend
>>499401460main bus is really good for building your starter base around
>>499400789i don't know. that's why i'm asking.i should mention i don't have space age bought or loaded.
>>499366892>Sounds like a recipe for more things to get stuck at once. Also a big fuck you when you just want a standalone facility specialized on a single thing.Satisfactory in a nutshell. They really make it hard to create a standalone facility.>I did this by downclocking the extractor and it still didn't work.Downclocking was less responsive than a valve when I tried it. The valve usually worked better for me.>it's actually the opposite of how some tutorials illustrate the VIP junction schematics where the lower pump is prioritized I'm not sure how much real world physics you should apply here if at all.The only version of the VIP junction that has ever worked for me has been the one where the lower pipe gets priority, so I've always made that my feedback loop. It has a specific lockup condition that I can't remember.I recall this video being a pretty good breakdown of several methods for handling byproducts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwO-F82sYE4
Is there an option to bump up autosave frequency in factorio?Played this game for hundreds of hours, but it just crashed on me when I tried to view the pollution screen and I lost a pretty frustrating chunk of process
>>499403363Did you try opening up the options menu before asking?
how do you make spidertrons follow stuff now
>>499401460Behold, my main bus that curves back on itself
>>499285957that's how mafia worksI think they missed a 0 and everyone just... did what they did before
>>499403481UI blindness affects thousands of people around the globe, please show some respect
>pump speed slows down when interacting with trainsThis fucking sucks
>>499401485>he wasn't invited to the closed beta so we could have it day 1shocking and appalling
>semi-first play though>decide to do lazy bastard>decide to do bunch of others tooBad idea, thank Godrvax for achievement tracking!>launched a rocket 36 min too late of another achievement>no saves before 15 hour markREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>499378732The bike doesn't work even with SA
>>499366102I always forget that the second red arm is an optionI usually just put another lane on the back
well this is quickly becoming a total mess
>>499404927adorable noob base
>>499399951Because instead of making another thread someone just linked back here
>>499378732The walking animation looks so slow. Nice jiggles tho
>>499404462achievement unlockerI have 304k achievements
I think I'm going to do 1-2 trains to start with - I've found that I can just fit one train stop in one length of my rail BP (48 wide), and I can fit a three-train capacity stop in two.I've spent way too much time in the editor - I should have been in space a while ago, but I'm so worried about things going wrong (esp. biters) while I'm off-planet.
>>499255316thread baker, reminder to put the factorio serb in the next OP
>>499405915NTA, but I want to go for the achievements because they are fun. I don't care about the steam points enough to just cheat them all in.
>>499405915If it's not in the guiness book, it didn't happen.
>>499406160what steam points? I just unlock a few thousand when I'm bored
>>499406349oh nah retard you ain't getting away with this
>>499405987TO HELL WITH THESE 1-2 WAGON TRAINSMAKE IT LONG MY DUDE, LONG!LONGER TRAIN = MORE COOL
>>499406561nothing is stopping you anonthat's the beauty of factorio
I should start building tracks for bauxite and start my alu farm but holy fuck I don't wanna, kek. That shit is such tedious. The train track alone is gonna take me an hour at minimum
wat doshould i start mass producing rocket or piss and purple bottle first
>>499404927how do you make screenshots like that
Holy fuck I forgot how bad I am at the early game2 hours in and I only just got green science online, a pitiful proto-starter-mall with gears + belts + green circuits, and not even a full smelting column of iron+copper each yet. This is gonna take a while
>>499406881>trainLife hack, have a sea level track and a mountain level track. As fun as it is building a 4000m everest corkscrew, nah fuck that shit. Elevator everything up or down, very little needs to actually go over a mountain.
>>499407005i see you are basically done with your starterstarter base. Now you can start building your started base, after which you can build your real base and then go to space.
>>499407005You can turn off the minimap showing your name in the minimap view if you're that worried about opsec.With regards to purple/yellow science, you'll have an incredibly slow drip of it with your current resources.
>>499407037/screenshot 4000 4000 0.5
>>499407364>>499407384so why rocket are available now if i need a real base like 1.0 ?
>>499407351But I like riding my trains through mountains and forests while throwing bombs at nasties
>>499407595i mean rockets build twice as fast and require like 20 times less resources but you still want a nice foundation to build from.But hey, it doesn't really matter, you could do it later as well. Just for me, it would be a bigger bummer realizing i need to upgrade my base AFTER i get into space rather than preparing for it before i do it
>>499407595The rocket is there so you can go to space. If you want to go to other planets before scaling up, I think that's reasonable
>>499407404Please send help
>>499404927>one engine per boilervery cursed.Why did you wall off only one side of your base? You're making the most pollution up to the north. They're gonna eat your solar panels. Everything else is kinda cute, I like it.
>>499408236>single rail loopsSOVL
FUCK setting up oil processing without construction bots dude, just fuck off i hate it so much, literally satisfactory tier experience
>>499408236what in gods name is going on with the power generation
>>499408290>>one engine per boiler>very cursed.whyshould there be more? i have no idea what i'm doing, just placing stuff that seems useful>Why did you wall off only one side of your base?because that side is getting attacked and the other one is not, there's only a small outpost with some oil pumpsI will eventually make more walls and turrets but for now I need more red circuits, then blue science and then maybe a tank to genocide some aliens
>>499403210>>499366892
>>499406881I finished the game without ever building a train.I did try to make a truck system to deliver bauxite but it took along time and didnt work properly
whatever that fucking contraption is, i'm pretty sure placing a single valve would've done the exact same job
>>499408236beautiful
>>499408725I swapped to nuclear and never looked back
>>499408747>should there be more?1 boiler gives enough steam for 2 engines
Toying around a bit in editor, wanted to display the contents of a tank with the new display panels. Unfortunately, they seem very frustratingly dumb. I have this intro CS style condition written just so I can get a digit shown. Honestly, kind of disappointed - I hope I'm missing something in them that actually lets them display things in a more dynamic manner
>>499408236anon...
>>499409776this nigga be havn nuclear and yellow ammo at the same time
>>499409250kek probably
>>499378527I'm willing to do the art for a huge breasted engineer mod
>>499378732this is the best modders got?
>>499403793Thats my peener
>>499403793
>>499403793>>499411921>that's a penis.gif
Finally those all in one science blueprints get some use
>playing factorio by pasting other people's blueprintswhy don't you paste other people's screenshots instead
>>499412997how do you gays hide the UI for screenshots?
>>499412997why don't you suckle my paste
>>499413134three people replied to that question in this thread
Why did Wube decide to turn off autosave by default now?
>>499412997I post screencaps from Factorio youtubers and reddit all the time but you never seem to notice
>>499413626i have it on by default thoughBEITUNGEWALTEST
>>499413804but you came here yesterday.
>>499412997You'll not find my fine artisanal hand-crafted blueprints anywhere on the web
>2nd day and still not in spessi'm disappointed in myself
>>499414008Wrong. Yesterday I was in /fag/, celebrating Space Age launch.
>>499414218I have the rocket build but I don't want to leave until I automate piss science first
I don't think I ever got to use the 22.5 space science per minute bp and now it's obsolete
>flamethrower turretSo, now I build a massive pipeline surrounding my whole factory?
>>499417024no, only at the places bugs will attack
quality is such a dumb fucking systemBUT
Is it worth to use solar power or should i just stick to steam engines? Im playing with no enemies btw
>>499417024>So, now I build a massive pipeline surrounding my whole factory?no, this was removed with the fluids update.
>>499417836but you just need to use pumps, right?
if you boys need another dropbox link for 2.0.8 lmk, i see the serb is still on 2.0.7the old link died i guess there is a download limit on it
>>499408968Time to test a streamlined, more modular version.
>>499413804how am i supposed to "notice" if i dont watch factorio youtubers and dont read the factorio reddit
Best time to start playing factorio right now? I saw couple people playing on the new planets but the start/first one seems a little boring before getting into space maybe I got bad impression from those guys.
new thread now
reminder to the baker:update the current serbs list in the OP
I don't understand the logic syntax>set train count to Lwhat the fuck is L
>>499419926wrong pic, further evidence of profound retardation
>>499418684>but the start/first one seems a little boring before getting into space maybe I got bad impression from those guys.Yeah that only seems so because they played the base game -which is the first planet- hundreds of hours, so they have lots of routine. If you never played the game before, you won't be bored there with all the stuff you need to figure out.
>>499420115the value of the signal Lyoure supposed to use arithmetic combinators to calculate it
>>499420115it's a variable you filthy coomer>putting cowtits on a loliyou seem a very confused individual
>>499420452oppai loli is the thinking mans fetish
>>499420278
>>499419926Sometimes I wonder where you find that kind of webm.
>>499420562It's 15
>>499420278so combinators assign values to variables like L?
Do roboports have a built-in radar now?
>first patches down to 40%>go exploring for the nearby ore fields>find 15m iron, 8m copper, 2m stone and a bunch of oil fields all close together>uranium far away but who cares>literally zero (0) coal anywheresheeeit do I need to go even further or is there some oil into coal replacement?what do I even need coal for anyway? i already unlocked electrical smelters and could switch, and I guess I could go solar instead of boilers
>>499420783Dissapointing
>>4994205621
>>499420892your plastic bro?
>>499420779I've never been able to sauce it
>>499420562Nice try but I can see that what we cann see is not the full math. There are hidden numbers on the left.>>499420826Yes.
>>499418069i don't think i'll update yet unless there's some big nervegas (or a large amount of screaming at me to update) since it would break the replay
>i'm being nagged to update a mod which i reuploaded from someone else with a little change but otherwise i have no idea how it worksmaybe if i change the version number... maybe it will work
>>499419926L is just the default signal. You can click it to change it to any other signal.Typically, you might use an arithmetic combinator to calculate how many trains' worth of crap this station can hold, and output that as L. That way if the buffer was completely empty, you'd get several trains queued up.Or for output stations, same thing, except how much crap is in the buffer, not how much empty space, so if the buffer fills up, you can have a second train waiting.But in 2.x, the right answer is usually: don't worry about it, set the train limit to 1, and just use the enable/disable setting, like you're already doing. In 1.x "disable" was different than "set limit to 0", so you needed to use the limit for best results, even if you're just setting it to 0/1, but now "disable" does exactly what you normally want.
>>499421098https://x.com/wooden203/status/1132628334511136769
>>499420796they output signalsfor example you could have an arithmetic combinator calculate oil / 150k and output that to L, so you would have the number of train loads (with 3 fluid wagons per train) on the signal Land then you can use that as the train limitbe aware that doing that will result in an excessive train limit if you have sufficient storage, especially with solid items where 4 steel chests = 4 train cars. and you probably dont want to have 4 trains waiting at the stop. so you will have to cap the signal at the maximum number of trains that should be waiting at the stop, which (as far as i know) is kind of a pain
>>499421098Dude that one is even weirder.
>>499421492it's still nice to have a train limit above 1 in 2.0 and it's probably going to get really important once you have access to the new stack inserters (formerly bulk inserters) and can empty chests at a rapid pace. and the new combinator with the ability to output an item's stack size makes it possible to do so in a generic station blueprint
So the earliest quality is worth bothering with is nauvis spess science, right? 2-3x 1% t1 module is abysmally low
I thought quality beacons have bigger area but it’s just a small transmission buff…
>>499422381imo, i would mostly ignore quality until you're on fulgora. Once you start scrap processing it becomes pretty great.
>>499421492>>499420278>>499421492>>499421841i think i understand now, thx
>>499422801Not using q2 in miners to stockpile decent ore for the few big ticket items you’d want is kind of trolling
>>499423579you can't get legendary iron ore, the game is not that retarded
>>499422381once you knock out all nauvis research you can do 4x qual2 module in t3 assembler for 8% upgrade chance, that's good enough to get a few uncommon asteroid collectors (quality gives them extra arms which is insanely strong)other than that yeah i'd say wait for fulgora, that's where you unlock the recycler and the quality module 3, which is what you need to really start the quality grinding loops. also the EM plant with its productivity bonus helps a lot with module production.
fresh bread>>499424105>>499424105>>499424105
>>499423776You can as long as you've unlocked the legendary quality research on aquillo and put quality modules in your drills. Your base chance to get a legendary ore is Quality chance divided by 1000. So if you have 20% to get an uncommon ore, you also have 2% of getting a rare, a 0.2% of getting an epic and a 0.02% of getting a legendary.
>>499424365you're shitting me herewhat the hell do you do with legendary oredo you smelt it into legendary plates
>>499424479You smelt it to get a legendary plate. It will ALWAYS be legendary. Which means you can put prod modules in your furnace to get more legendary plates. Quality can only go up, it can't go down even with negative quality chance.
>find a good spot for nauvis base>hmmm but i will have quality miners soon (tm) so it would take me a lot forther>nice ptch lies unused and I train in plates from the other side of the planeti might be tarded
>>499417710just choo choo your steam engines to full power
>>499424164idort baker
>>499375638I have some mods
>>499376751cursed
>£30 for an expansion
>>499430542
>>499384779it's a tech you unlock at gleba to capture the spawnerthen you feed some gleba stuff into it
