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>Version 1.03(1.04 if you're on console) is out!
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2679460/view/4526772422651793108?l=english
>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!
>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day
>Now available EVERYWHERE (but Nintendo Switch and Xbox One)

>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg

>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)
https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases

>Kino commercial (why would you remove this from the OP?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA

>How many hours have you played?
>What day are you on?
>What are your favorite classes?
>Favorite BGM?
>Are you having fun?

>"How should I build my MC?"
Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.
>"What is the best team comp?"
Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.
>"How should I manage my time?"
There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.

PLEASE MARK SPOILERS
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>>499682425
Would
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rare Gallica
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This game is unfinished broken trash
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Making Bas the Queen(male) of Euchronia.
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I can fix Atlus's mistakes with Hulkenberg's model. Just give me a couple years.
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No Romance chads shoving Persona romance nerds into lockers every thread
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I can tell they did their damnedest to not quote The Return of the King here.
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>mindbreaking the kingdom by making half-paripus half-elda princes and princesses
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I know a part of the ost is out officially but a lot is still unreleased, was there ever a game rip posted here?
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>>499683219
The King will make everyone understand that a cat is fine too.
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>>499683465
Royal-mandated interbreeding
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It's not going to happen
This isn't a third pillar this is a wildly unfinished one and done
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Translation:
>waaah waaaaaaaah waaaah me and my Discord shitposted this game for months how could this happen waaaaah waaaaaah
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Reminder that this is where Will belongs.
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This was when I knew he'd be something special.
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>>499683169
If you stuck your dick right up against her pussy and then ejaculated, would it be possible to impregnate her and create a half-fairy half-elda?
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Where are the evil women?
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>>499684692
Do we even have any evidence fairies have reproductive organs at all?
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So /meta/, the million dollar question.

Nidia with glamors OR Nidia with no glamors?
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>>499684935
They look weird either way so neither. Freakishly big foreheads.
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>that hotspirngs quest
would you some Gallica bathwater?
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>>499684339
I love dark skinned women
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>>499684339
that doesn’t look like Gallica
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>>499684927
Is there even any male fairies? I think I saw maybe one throughout the entire game, and to be honest it could've just been a woman that decided to wear pants
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>>499684893
Martira.
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>thought the game would end around the early level 60 range after the opera
>it ends at the usual level for Atlus games
Turns out EXP gain is exponentially higher in the last quarter.
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>>499685237
I assume the flat ones are male.
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>>499684935
If I loved a Nidia, I would love them in both forms.
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>>499685423
they're all flat tho
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>>499685708
Nah
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this game just doesnt hit like persona
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>>499686040
thats flat
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>>499686134
For me, it hits like Tales and I like that.
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>>499685708
Nah, the girl fairies all have budding breasts, not completely flat. There are a few male ones in the elda sanctum.
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I wonder how /smtg/ and /pg/ are faring lately. It's not like they didn't have games this year either.
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Masked Dancer Will
Savior Strohl
Ninja Hulkenburg
Warlock Heismay
Destroyer Junah
Dark Knight Eupha
Devil Summoner Basilio
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Is it an unpopular opinion to think that the MC's design sucks?
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>>499687747
/pg/ is seething about metaphor constantly
/smtg/ has always been chill
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>>499687894
No but the reason why he sucks is kind of kino
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>>499687997
Why are they seething about a persona game?
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>unlock the final dish
>description talks about its combination of flavors from all over the world
>hyped to get the whole group working together in the kitchen
>tfw it's just a Hulk recipe
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>>499687997
/smtg/ is practically bragging about being able to pirate the game. Says a lot about them really. Truth is, anyone with a remote interest in any of those series is playing/has played Metaphor (unless they're a Switch main user). But they love their general culture too much to come here.
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>>499687997
>/smtg/
>chill
>with the aliceschizo
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>>499688926
>>499689234
oh alright then
i haven't been there since vengeance launch
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>>499687894
His outfit makes him look extremely uncool and also more effeminate
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Can someone explain the explanation about the scepter in the end to me like I'm five? It absorbed magla from the population for centuries, which is anxiety. So Louis has been scaring the population to generate more magla and make it powerful enough for his plan or something?
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This fight in September is so hard I genuinely have no idea how to solve it without spending a ton of MAG on respeccing everyone.
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>>499690427
Which fight?
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>>499689762
The royal scepter absorbs magla from across the citizens of the land, because as established when people accumulate too much Magla, they become humans, make those crystals you find in dungeons, make monsters, etc. This is likely accomplished with the help of the royal statues you bust up in the dungeon.
Louis plans to take the scepter and use the accumulated magla to turn people into homos and see who is sane afterwards to cultivate his meritrocracy. Scaring people by creating homo attacks gives him credibility in the rankings and also helps makes that little bit more anxiety. Also he's an asshole

Basically, it's a metaphor
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>>499690794
Rella and dragon. I'm on like attempt 40th I just don't see a reasonable way to wi
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>>499690846
Debuff dragon every turn so he always has to reapply his buffs
Use magical injection synthesis if you have it to prevent frostbite
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>>499690846
Ice spam and makarabreak
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>>499691189
I don't have it, so I'm basically spending every turn throwing healing items to get rid of frostbite till I die.
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Should I be putting any points into stats other than my damage stat on the MC?
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Yeah I give up this fight is impossible. Why does it get to nuke my full party twice, debuff my attack and defense by 3 stages and apply status in a single turn.
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Why does my Strohl die twice as fast and do half the damage of the rest of my team despite having the same level of gear as everyone else?
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Strohl and Gallica always make sure the rest know their fucking place huh
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I like how the baby boss in the second dungeon is built like some kind of giant serpent for the stealth segments but then you fight it and it's just a head on two legs
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>>499689762
The scepter absorbs the anxieties/magla of all the nation's citizens, which fuels whatever royal magic the king wants to use. However, this has the dual effect of basically weakening everyone as a whole, as they no longer overcome their own anxieties and push everything onto the king. Louis's plan is to generate more fear and more magla, and then return that magla to everyone. Anyone who can overcome their anxieties will become "true humans" for his new world, and everyone who is overtaken by it will become human monsters.
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Actually by far the hardest Atlus game I've played. What the fuck were they thinking lol
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>>499692289
press turn is just a bad combat system and it always will be. effectively makes everything useless. buffs are useless. synt attacks are useless. status effects are useless, except when they hit you which means a reset. party member dies? reset. weakness to an attack an enemy uses? job/character is useless on the spot. there's no strategy with press turn sadly.
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Im at the part where you go onto louis boat and get 20 days on hard mode and its become a slog. the dungeons difficulty spike is ridiculous i feel im under leveled despite doing every side quest prior. it takes 3 days to get to 1 dungeon and getting attacked on the gauntlet runner sucks. finally get to the place and its raining so my combat is fucked I just turned the game off and reloading a save from 5 days ago.
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This dragon and Rella fight is so hard I actually feel I have to restart the game from the start so I can minmax in preparation for it. Holy shit this is the hardest JRPG boss I've ever fought.
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>>499692134
So it becomes a sick monster hunter game
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>>499692772
its where i turned down the game to easy. i'm not enough of a sicko to deal with fights like that
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I didn't have trouble with the ice dragon and because of that I can't remember what I did or what my party setup was like to offer guidance to anon. I'm sorry, anon. You have to git gud.
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wait did I pick the wrong option at the end of the baby boss. I wanted to bring the baby head not the whore or is this another one where they give you a choice, but it doesn't matter what you pick.
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You are such weaklings
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>>499692525
the point of press turn is to constantly be swapping out demons/mantras/archetypes/etc. to adapt to different situations, it's a system entirely reliant on party building mechanics
the issue is that building up a variety of archetypes for each character takes a lot of grinding unlike SMT where you just fuse/slot in a new demon.
the mantra system in DDS is similar to archetypes, but in DDS you keep every skill you earn and can use them freely, whereas in metaphor your skill slots are limited depending on social link progress. DDS also has hunt skills which make dedicated farming much quicker. i think metaphor really needed a hunt skill equivalent.
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Are you guys at least bringing Dekaja and Dekunda to every battle? Can't stress how useful they are for the buff/debuff tug of war you're bound to get into with tough bosses. I think for the ice dragon, I had Basilio go nuts. Now that octopus human? Fuck that.
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>>499693258
The fight is just not doable. If they removed roar, maybe.
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scoundrel’s hold is such an annoying dungeon
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>>499693563
stop replying to lost vermin.

Every single post is in bad faith and spammed regardless of your response. It's Trolling outside of /b/
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>>499693549
Drink fairy piss.
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>>499693347
Dekaja is far less useful because many later abilities also have a baked in "remove all buffs" effect in addition to damage.
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>>499694203
I'm not willing to risk a miss trying to use those skills, so Dekaja will always stay.
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just recruited junah, how long until I meet the mustari cutie
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>>499693230
Doesn't matter
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>>499696561
You meet her at the start of the next main story beat so when you get to the next town. It's not long at all.
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Such an intense portrait
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>>499687894
Why do they all want to femdom him?
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>>499697398
I want to pull him by the horns and facefuck him
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>>499697871
Will has no rights! He's a sex toy!
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>>499697915
Strohl...
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>>499698180
Was it really that simple?
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>>499685106
Name of anime?
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>>499697784
Bas a cutest
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>>499698325
I was wondering at the start of the game why an elda like the MC doesn't wear fake horns or rhoag makeup to hide in plain sight
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>>499698325
Only an Elda well versed in magic and smart enough to subterfuge could do it.
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Without spoiling the shit out of me, how much is left after September 12? The plot makes it feel like this is basically the endgame but is there really no dungeons left?
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>>499698675
It's longer than you'd think.
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>Sep 24
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>>499698805
Thanks, anon. Wish I had more time to play but having a job sucks.
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>>499692772
It's pretty easy, it's just a marathon rather than a sprint.
>dekaja the dragon's buffs
>dekunda your party whenever he roars
>chip away with a physical attack
>save the last action to cast bot to dispel the barrier.
It'll waste two turns between reapplying the barrier and either your debuffs or its buffs. You also don't really need to care about fostbite if it's on anyone but your phys attacker, but you should have a piece of gear that prevents frostbite at that point.
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>>499698646
It's an ultra-secret Elda technique, perfected over the centuries and born from an Old-World hobby known as... "Cosplaying"
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prince feels worse than soul hacker
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>>499699474
Only if you are a mag build. strchads get a big upgrade.
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>>499699474
Is that because you went from using magic skills to using physical skills?
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>King of Destruction
>2:16-2:56
I felt like I ascended
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>>499699474
Prince shines against the human enemies, and as an enabler for synthesis and big boss hits with its 4 bonus turns. Soul hacker is better for general clearing.
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>>499699543
>>499699594
i was overly reliant on trial of the seeker/soulblade rider spam to get rid of the chaff in dungeons and save on mp
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>it's a "Strohl comes up with a plan" episode
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>>499699595
Putting a theme you hear regularly through the game in the final boss theme is the oldest trick in the book and it still gets me every time.
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You heard him, Junah. We need your piss.
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>>499699595
Ode to Heroes is simply sublime.
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>>499699760
I use Strohl for that mostly
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The most unrealistic part of the game is that no one tried to hit on Hulkenberg. But maybe her "aura" keeps horndogs away.
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>>499697915
t. forden.
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>>499698634
Gallica explains why that wont work and Louis used magic to keep them on all the time so he could probably wash his hair
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>>499700649
I want to plap her so hard.
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Why didn't they just rape Louis? To rape him, you'd have to have enough strenght to overpower him which he would have to recognize.
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>expect him to be a skeevy, double-crossing snake
>literally the most based, rational and intelligent character in the entire game
Damn, why can't I have a Batlin social link?
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>>499701372
He can't be raped because he accepts all comers. Such is his strength that his would be rapists end up feeling like the defiled parties when they attempt to molest him.
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>>499700649
She probably intimidates normies, only attracting submissives and absolute chads. Also she's autistic as hell, so she probably wouldn't even notice if you did try to hit on her
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>>499684339
>ywn spend all day eating out Brigitta under her desk as she stoically does paperwork
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How would Gallica know what bandwidth is?
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I can't get over Forden being scared shitless of a 12 year old enough to exile him
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>>499702107
We went over this yesterday with muppet.
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>>499702107
the in-game answer is they already said they have many words that came from the old world that they don't even know what they refer to anymore
the real answer is the localization is not the best
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>>499702171
par for the course for christfags
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>>499702402
retard, they're more muslim than anything else.
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ok so I just went ahead and did all three side-dungeons in one go in the water-y city hub (the third one). While I love the challenge on hard I am starting to feel fatigued by the general dungeon crawling I feel like I have this fucking autism where I overfarm each area so the hardest enemies in the particular dungeon become at least yellow and fairly easy but I feel like this unnecesarily prolongs my gametime and will just get me burned out before I even finish the game. Should I just swap to normal? My fucking friend who also kinda does everything the game offers has same game time but is far more fucking ahead cuz he's playing on normal too. I'm already 40 hours deep and still probably not even halfway through.
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>>499702171
He not only framed Louis, he probably raped him. So that's the goal of making his credibility even less, so he could say nothing.
No wonder Louis kept seething all the time whenever he thought of Forden
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>>499702847
just drop the autism. I'm on hard and I was way past where you are at 40 hours.
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>>499702847
just stop farming anon, playing the game through on hard and doing everything once with zero farming was perfectly balanced
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>>499702994
I did play the demo for +9 hours so that's 31+9 because I went to the goblin side dungeon instead of the main dungeon and that shit got challenging real fucking quick lmao. But managed to beat it little by little and by using mage mp regen, but yeah. Game's not extremely challenging and I beat most bosses first try even when i sometimes end up engaging them with shitty inheritance/classes.
>>499703179
I always have this fucking mindset that the game will ramp up too much and then I'll go inside a dungeon where most of the enemies will be yellow/red and I'll get obliterated and then will have to scrounge for magla pots and do mage scumming, but I feel like that won't be the case and game does a good job of smoothing out exp gains based on challenge?
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>>499702486
>noooo don't insult muh heccin based christianiterino
>it's more like muh islam because it's cringe and not based
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>>499702486
christies getting feisty
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I thought I was taking it slow needing two weeks to beat the game as basically a NEET, but some people have barely reached Brilehaven at this point.
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>>499703378
The game is designed (at least on hard, the difficulty I played on) that if you do every sidequest to completion then start the dungeon it'll be pretty decently hard but still doable without need for any farming at all, A-EXP is already calculated based on combatant difficulty so farming is generally at about the exact rate of just doing new stuff, the only difference being in the very last area where the game gives you dedicated farming areas to max shit before the final boss
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>>499703439
>>499703538
me when im retarded and not informed at all
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>I can't control myself...
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>>499701649
We were robbed.
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>>499703583
ah interesting, well I'll try to just head to bosses earlier, like once I grab up all the chests and similar loot instead of autismaxxing like I've been doing most of yesterday.
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>Eupha warns Will not to hold the lance because it will purge his king protection if he's holding it
>Forden triggers the king's magic attacking Louis while I assume he's hiding the lance under his cloak
They didn't think about this did they?
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>>499703815
Oh no that's totally fine anon, I mean like going over the entire area once, getting every loot, etc. the only "extra stuff" i wouldnt recommend is like resetting spawns the farm and shit, I got by totally fine with none of that until the very very very last area
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>>499703819
but he literally does hold the lance you fucking retard
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>>499703925
yeah that's precisely what I've been doing for like half the side dungeons and I feel like that shit was a waste of time since I mostly focused on the blue enemies who barely give any exp anyways. It is pretty satisfying to rush through the whole area though...
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>>499704075
Explain how that contradicts anything I said.
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>>499702486
Lol no
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>>499704092
I'll also just say that you're right before the main difficulty spike. Brilehaven's dungeon is easy as fuck and the very next dungeon is the big difficulty spike, so just keep going and doing what you've been doing, you're likely fine and just misconstruing a slight downturn in difficulty as your own fault
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>>499703819
The game is an unfinished mess with no content in it they didn't think about anything
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>>499704318
desu the game's difficulty can be all over the place. Like the Ogras tower whatever it was called, I had more trouble with the Ogro dudes before the boss than the boss itself. Boss went down without issue in three turns and I only had two dudes with Dark damage, but the Ogros felt like fucking mini-bosses each. That's kind of my whole issue, if you ambush with the wrong classes or god forbid, get ambushed, the game can take quite the turn on hard mode with the extra turn + 1.5x damage dealt modifier.
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>>499703819
The lance wasn't summoned until after Forden was chained up. And since it's pure magla given shape, it can be stashed away easily by someone like Louis.
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>>499704606
The bosses in general tend to be easier than enemies in the field because it's hearkening back to FOEs from Etrian Odyssey. You're just overleveled and perceiving those roaming FOEs as "normal" when they're meant to be things you avoid
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I'm only just now noticing that Louis has one wing for each tribe and the literal eyes on each tribe on them that is kino
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>>499698374
Myriad Colors Phantom World
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>>499704651
I mean I guess I can buy this. The screen did cut away from him after all.
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Totally real spoiler this actually happens trust me bro
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>>499704846
the /meta/ VGL team captain...
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I was autistic enough to screenshot every single popularity rank update.
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>>499704708
oh interesting, didn't think of it that way. I feel like there's a reason they're always alone too despite often roaming in packs with other enemies. The game deliberately treats them as "elites" while the usually AoE fodder gets bubbled up into a pack of up to 5 enemies when ambushing.
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>>499704895
would be kind of based if we actually got in there but it's a bit early and it's not like we have anyone who can get those models working.
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>>499704748
The seven deadly sins too
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>>499704918
And that's the point, yeah. Part of the reason the next dungeon is perceived as very hard is because they WAY overlevel you there and are (like in EO) huge drains on your resources, which I think adds to the dungeon crawling experience Atlus was trying to revive. Do you spend a lot of resources to take out the annoying enemy or deal with sneaking around them? Cool gameplay implications but they're too infrequent and not coded in like FOEs were, hoping it's improved in a rerelease/sequel
>>499705007
there's a 6 month mandatory wait anyway, so we cant get in until next VGL at the earlier. Though be aware there's always people who would help out in their aesthetics council
>>499705119
that's what the tribes represent, anon
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Why did they release this game in such a blatantly unfinished state?
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>>499700649
People only like Junah
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>>499705119
>lust
>rhoag
what did he mean by this
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>Elda was just literally the word "Elder" with a British accent
God I feel so fucking stupid, I love this "fantasy world is just post-apocalyptic Earth far into the future" trope after all and I didn't even put the most obvious clue together.
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>>499704748
>>499705119
I wish it put up more of a fight, though that's mostly on me for trying to max out all the archetypes on a NG run. I don't even really know what that phase's gimmick was since it kept getting cucked by Hulkenberg's 15% chance repel.
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>>499705356
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>>499705482
I spammed the 99mp 9,999 dmg final attack for p1 and got cucked by the existence of p2, pushing through it with no mp on anyone was really fun though
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How realistic is hitting 99 in this game?
I'm on 9/25 and I'm only level 56, which seems pretty low if I'm right in predicting how much of the game there is left.
Shit even the final bosses of Persona games are usually around level 85-90.
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>>499704915
Are any of them interesting enough to share? I forgot to use the popularity checker entirely. I also didn't collect my free MAG from the king's rock.
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>>499705737
>the final bosses of Persona games are usually around level 85-90
No. They are basically always around level 75.
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>>499705737
Final level goal is about 70, challenge bosses can be beaten at 60-65, final dungeon itself just shits out XP
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>>499705737
You'll end at about 70-75 like every other megaten game
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LADY JOONAH!
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nothing personnel, hard mode dragon hitting for 26 damage
>tips Vidyartha at you respectfully
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>>499705936
OUR DEL!
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>>499705356
It would have been too silly to declare that Clemar are the horny ones.
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>personachuds keep whining that bosses have debuff/buff cleanse
lol.. lmao even...
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>>499705862
Huh, I'd just played P3 Reload not long ago and P5R about a year prior and I could've sworn the final bosses were like level 85 but I looked and I was wrong. Wild.
>>499705906
>>499705930
Thanks anon.
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>>499703619
So you.
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>>499705119
>Lust - Rhoag
>Sloth - Eugief
What are the others?
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>>499705842
>Are any of them interesting enough to share?
No, because in all my screenshotting of them, not once did it occur to me to screenshot the version with the narrator text, and not version with the blank screen. So I'm just left with shots that don't really hold much value after a playthrough.
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>>499706347
Don't even have to check to know that Pride is the Clemar.
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Are you planning to buy any merch for this game, anon?
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>>499706570
I will be there for the Heismay plushie day one.
It better be life-sized.
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>>499706570
the plushies they revealed today are cute, would love to collect one of everyone
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This is an older woman game.
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>>499706570
I never buy merch
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How is the english localization?
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>>499706570
I'd only put out money for story dlc or the manga if it's any good
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>>499706739
Just needs Rella and the Murder Mommy to round out the roster.
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>>499706963
And Fabienne.
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>>499706921
pretty good overall, like most atlus games people are quick to take things out of context but it was way more bearable here than persona for me
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>>499682880
very happy that gallica doesn't fade into the background and that she's prominent for the whole game, even in combat sometimes
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By the end I don't think the voice added anything to the mc. He doesn't have more personality than a silent protag.
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>>499706921
Depends on if you're looking for a translation or a localization. The localization is great with a few unnecessary creative liberties. But it's not an American localization either with some accents and phrases being used to sound natural from the VAs. As a translation, it's serviceable. Nothing so egregious to blow a gasket over.
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>>499707015
Ah, but of course
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>>499683147
what was the eupha thing all about though
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>>499707183
t.played with dub
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>>499707183
t. dubfag
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>>499707101
She never gets the spotlight to begin with. Feels like wasted potential.
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>>499684653
best antagonist atlus have ever done i think
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>>499707273
>>499707320
Nope. Barely any choices or input and Strohl is more invested in the plot than him.
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>>499707462
once again, t. dubfag
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>my fairy companion keeps trying to talk to me and share important information that is pertinent to my interests
>I can't internalise any of it because I can't stop staring at her bare legs and feet as she waves them around in my face
anyone have a solution for this?
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i skipped the elegy fight because i just wanted to finish the game but how much harder than louis is he
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>>499707501
not him but the dub is pretty great, suck it weeb
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>>499707573
If you're concerned about staring at her legs, take off her leotard so you can stare at her tits instead
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>>499707662
The dub is okay but the shift from proper japanese to a british accent when he's revealed as the prince is proper ludokino
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>>499707617
Elegy is a challenge boss, not a super boss.
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>>499697047
i think having Heismay and Hulkenbergo n their Royal Archetypes is actually OP as fuck which is why some fights punish you for it
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>>499707501
Nope.
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>>499707617
He's not hard, it's just a basic pattern recognition fight with something of a damage check.
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Should I play this or Persona 5 Royal?
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>>499708060
Both, but if you're pressed for time, this.
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>>499708060
this game will respect your time a lot more than p5r, but p5r is cheaper
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>>499708179
P5R also has more soul than this game
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>>499708060
Both are great games. I'd say P5R is the slightly better game so if you haven't played Persona 5 at all I'd say play Royal but if you've already played base Persona 5 then play this.
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>>499706938
Was a manga already confirmed? I might actually read it too, even though I never bothered with the manga for any other Atlus series. Metaphor's cast leaves me wanting for more.
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>>499708060
Why not both?
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>>499708272
Who knows, maybe they'll add fanservice to try and boost sales
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i just got the repel element split shoes, which one should i purify it into?
what's the most common enemy element?
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>>499708060
I like Metaphor a lot, but I think P5R is still the overall better game. P5R is also one of the few games to hit 100+ hours naturally in a single play through.
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>>499708060
This. P5 is pretty good but Royal actually makes it worse. The game already suffered from bad pacing and Royal just amplifies that and makes some really pointless story "additions"
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>>499708272
https://x.com/stud_zero/status/1838831275173654930
in V Jump
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>>499708456
I don't think that's what he was going for, anon
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>>499708391
P3 reload is also worth considering not quite as long as royal
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>>499708385
You'll want fire for one or two of the special dragon fights.
After that just look to fill whichever weakness hole you want on your final team.
You can convert them between elements whenever just like switching between the two abacuses.
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>>499708507
he asked if this game or Royal was better, I answered that this game is. Royal has horrible pacing, is more or less pointless, and was just an Atlus attempt to milk their most normalfag friendly game.
P5 is good, but that's exactly what it was.
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>>499705737
final dungeon feels like a DLC EXP/MAG dungeon given that you can powerlevel not even entering actual fights at a certain point
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why does JP eupha sound like a 12 year old girl
her EN VA is a lot better
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>>499708798
>the PT go on a roadtrip with a full fledged plot and new character
>they don't even mention or remember what's-her-name
lmao
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>>499709047
thanks for that cool opinion from the gay community; keep us updated
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The songstress
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>>499708798
retard
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>>499709051
Strikers is based on the original P5 timeline where Kasumi didn't exist.
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>>499709201
we don't sign our posts here, glad you liked Royale though
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>>499709197
When I heard her singing in her first scene at the cathedral, I thought she sounded terrible and sounded like a different voice actor entirely, but when she sings again way later in the game, she sounds fine. Did anyone else experience something like this?
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>>499709308
not spelled royale retard
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>>499684363
I don't cook Heismay food because he always does this. It's super unhygienic.
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>>499709616
>muh spelling
you got wrecked, go suck public restroom dicks with all the other Akechi troon fanboys
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>>499709609
do you mean in english or japanese
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>You stare at the last form of the day, trying to keep your eyes focused
>It's something penned in rainbow ink
>It's not entirely legible either and you file it in the appropriate to-be-incinerated pile
>Leaning back, you try to enjoy the hard won merits of a clean desk
>From around the corner, a tower of papers larger than any stack you've had before floats into the room courtesy of your flying assistant
>You try to object to having more paperwork forced on you
"We've got a special serving for you today, straight out of the royal inbox."
>The mountain of parchment crashes on your desk
"Letters addressed to his majesty! Love letters... We had so many that the box itself couldn't hold them."
>You stare in disbelief
"Hey, I told you not to answer that reporter's question about a queen, but you just had to go and say the spot is available, and this is what happens."
>You shuffle the stack closer to the burn pile
"No! You can't just burn a love letter! W-what if one of those was mine, huh? How do you think that'd make me feel? You got yourself into this mess, the least you can do is read them."
>You briefly wonder if you'd even be able to read something she wrote
>Gallica floats off, leaving you with an all-nighter of letters to sort through.
>Nothing to do but treat it like any other work and start at the top.
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>>499709718
Why DOES Akechi makes all the fujos and gays want his terribly written dick though?
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>do Etria temple as soon as possible
>jump up like 4-5 levels by the end of it
>steamroll all the optional dungeons after

Hm. This isn't very fun. Maybe I should do the optional stuff first.
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What's the problem? Can't I just burn this?
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>>499708543
>reload
play fes
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>>499710056
Is it yours? You can't burn other people's dread.
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Me and my boyfriend before we make out.
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>>499709776
English. I still forget that it's not the PS2 dub-only era anymore.
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>>499710136
nah
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>>499710196
both songs are done by emma ballantine according to the credits
i didnt really notice any inconsistency myself
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I still find it funny /v/ is the only place that seethed and still seethes over Reload while everywhere else was
>it's pretty good but The Answer still sucks
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>>499710167
Will tops.
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>>499710291
but we just had a contrarian retard in this thread actually say FES is better than reload
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>>499708484
What would they have done if the game flopped
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>>499710453
that was the point of the comment. Guess where he's from
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I don't understand why Eupha is such a MAGlet compared to Junah when her royal archetype is much better for making a nuke caster with.
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>>499710629
magic damage is just pointless late game when its so easy to bypass physical resistances
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man, getting ambushed on hard is basically game over even against trash mobs. shit is kinda frustrating in the later areas where there's so many enemies
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>>499710291
I didn't play The Answer Reload. Do you still not have access to the compendium in it? That was easily the worst aspect of the original, made fusion infinitely more tedious.
That and the "OH SHIT IT'S THE SHADOW, WHO COULD IT BE, OH SHIT THEY RAN AWAY BOSS TIME" copied and pasted like 5 times.
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>>499710850
Well, yeah. Normal enemies are going to give you more problems than bosses
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>>499710826
shut up euphafag
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its over.
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>>499710985
literally who
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>>499710928
No, you do actually but it's still shit that ruins the ending and the rest of the tedious garbage is still there
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>>499710850
You get so many fucking invincibility frames from rolling just stop sucking
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>>499710826
I mean yeah against anything that doesn't have repel phys you can just nuke with any phys char or just almighty nuke with the mc but I still like having a magic user in the party
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>>499710985
It will be so funny when p6 looks better than meta2
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>cast tetrakarn
>boss gets to go once
>it's debuffed to hell as well from Trickster
>it can't do anything
lol
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>>499710291
I think it's reasonable to be annoyed that they just remade the original base PS2 game without including anything from Portable or The Answer, especially because they got asked about it and their reasoning was "it would cost money to develop"
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>>499711046
That's fair.
Yukari turning into a hateful and spiteful person because of her grief is an understandable reaction on its own but also just completely goes against the message of the main game. What a weird thing for them to walk back. Pissed me off the first time I tired FES The Answer.
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>>499711130
phys people have easy access to elemental phys attacks, not that you need them
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I want to be a paripus in the next game
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>>499711230
Reload has more content than those THOUGH and has its own Answer which is still shit nobody should bother with
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>>499711230
it does have the answer though
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>>499711230
tbf, it's a remake of FES and not the original base PS2.
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I got to play Reload into SMTVV into Metaphor all in one year
I'm positively stuffed; a Fatlus, if you will
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Hear ye, Hear ye
It's not often I reprise my role of town crier, but where there's royal news and gossip, I just can't help myself.
Now, we've all heard that the spot for a queen is vacant and I'm sure we all know one woman or another who is currently trying to swoon or shmooze her way into royalty.
Word from the palace is that there is to be an official announcement of our queen-to-be in a manner of days with an unofficial request from some of the palace staff to please stop sending declarations of love for the young majesty. In fact, it's more of a desperate plea. I wouldn't be surprised if several new laws were lost in the sea of postage.
BUT! The question on all of your minds is surely about the lucky woman herself and while I am not privy to the answer, old Batlin hears his fair share of rumors. Word has it, one of the Six is to be named queen, but who amongst them has earned the dashing young man's hand?
Could it be Hulkenberg, the embodiment of devotion that set out on a search for the prince she swore to protect? Or could it be the lovely Junah that has won the hearts of a million men going after one more?
Heh, a blonde man's three-eyed scowl reminds me that Euphasia is also a candidate. The Mustari girl's kindness has caused her to be unexpectedly popular with the masses. Could the royal upstart plan to shatter more social barriers by choosing her?
But the rumors don't end there, after all, with the possibilities of the pink-haired powerhouse Paripus Catherina, the rumored enamored Lycaon tycoon, the proprietress of the King's favorite diner, and a surprisingly racist Clemar woman all taking their places in the rumored brides to be.
Whatever the outcome may be, I do hope we'll take the answer with dignity and fewer riots this time around. Keep your ears perked and your hearts open, fellow Tradians.
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>>499711619
>it's a remake of FES
>uses the portable script
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>>499708456
>>499708798
Genuinely the stupidest take in this thread. Royal is P5 but better in quite literally every single way. There is not a single, not ONE reason to ever play the original P5 over Roya.
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>>499711707
>There is not a single, not ONE reason to ever play the original P5 over Roya.
better combat balance
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>>499710291
I hate P3R but that's just because I hate the original P3 too.
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ILI TENAS MIAJN PAGOJN OSTAĜON BONVOLU NE IGURI MIN DUR ĈANTI TIEL MI NUR VOLAS RESTI EN MIA TEMPLO KAJ MEDITI
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>>499711707
>There is not a single, not ONE reason to ever play the original P5 over Roya
Here two: you're not a homosexual who cares about Akechi, you don't appreciate even more filler than the original game had
GG
2ez
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>>499707753
you get the same shift with the dub from American to RP English
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>>499706278
i dont hate this per se but when bosses have like 4+ turns and can use those for any combination of debuff/buff/status/massive aoe it kinda sucks, the Melacholic Zorba boss was so boring man
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>>499711507
They originally said they weren't going to do it, I assume it ended up being DLC because of their deal with Microsoft or something (since it's free on Xbox). Either way it's really retarded that they remade P3 nearly 20 years after its original release and there is still no definitive version of the game with everything in it
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>>499711959
And then it's immediately dropped...
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>>499711781
Yes, which is one of the main draws of Royal, the better combat balance over the original.

>>499711913
>filler
Retard. Royal has no filler. If you think anything is "filler" then you just don't like Persona 5 in the first place so obviously having more of it would be a negative to you, a retard. Anyone who actually likes Persona 5 enjoys Royal. Doubly ironic that you also ignore that Royal also trims a lot of the fat of the original streamlining it and improving the pacing.
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>>499712023
They intentionally only cleanse if you use too much of one or the other, applying stage 1 and sometimes only stage 2 will have them not use it.
>>499711959
he does it for literally one line
>>499711674
you're the best poster ITT
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>>499711913
>you're not a homosexual who cares about Akechi
so that rules out 80% of /pg/
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>>499712065
>Royal has no filler
lol
>long rambling seethe
oh wait a second, I recognize this retarded writing style; this is the little bitch crying about romances earlier
LOL
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>>499708060
Metaphor is a better game but I think P5R is a better overall one time experience if that makes sense
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>>499707662
What are you playing? Where do you think we are? Shouldn't you be playing some normie shit like the new cawaduwy? It seems like more your speed.
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>>499712229
>muh romances
Ah no wonder. So yeah you just don't like Persona and consider more of it a negative. Thanks for proving my point dumbass.
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>>499708060
please play Soul Hackers 2
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>>499712292
bit of an extreme reaction
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>>499712348
going to write 58 long assmad posts about how you "don't care" again, sperg?
LOL
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>>499712348
I like Persona just fine. I was playing it before you were born, honestly.
I was buying Atlus games when they were Compile Heart tier kusoge.
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>>499712415
Not your boogieman, retard. Next time actually try and argue a point instead of instantly deflecting.

>>499712510
Cool.
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>>499712586
>Next time actually try and argue a point
>says retard who's argument was "YOU DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE I MADE A STRAWMAN AND I SAID YOU'RE IT"
lol retard
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After grinding out Royal Thief for Heismay and giving him a taunt I see why they made it so much of a pain in the ass to get, it's broken as hell. Any enemy that can't buff itself with a guaranteed hit literally can't deal damage any more
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Metaphor??????
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>>499712682
ok
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>>499712586
I know, isn't it? Want me to tell you more about the series and how it started?
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Just finished the Opera House and following couple of days in my playthrough. Is it just me or was this a complete mess? The double Louis fakeout deaths were ridiculous, the triple Rella twists had zero time to land because they all happened over the course of like 10 minutes. The Forden backstory is revealed after his death AND we're not even the ones who got to kill him. They overcomplicated this shit so much for no reason, I was laughing when the next day all the citizens could barely keep up with WTF happened. Can you imagine the pigeons they were getting in Grand Trad?

I really want to love this game but I'm finding it very inconsistent. The cut content Mage Academy (I'm assuming) was kinda made up for by the challenging dragon boss, but the Opera House segment was awful and the Louis fight was easy as fuck, such a let down even if yes obviously he's going to magically be much stronger next time we fight him. After the fun Etrian Odyssey archipelago this was a real let down.
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Some of you have a persona complex
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>>499712765
nyo
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>>499712767
Glad we agree. I'll always be here to correct you, so don't worry about it.
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>>499712831
>Wall of not spoilered spoilers
good job retard
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>>499712831
Thanks for the spoilers
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>>499712858
I just don't know why any time someone says "I don't like this one thing about it" you get some huffing puffing mad retard over it
I like the games too, dumbfuck. Calm down.
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>>499712831
spoiler your shit loser
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>>499712831
For sure the weakest point in the game. It's like after the islands they were like "oh shit, better wrap this up" and just threw a bunch of shit at us in rapid succession without any breathing room or dungeons to break the torrent
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>>499712831
>BOY HERE'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
I am past that part but you are tremendously gay
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>>499712771
Not him, but I'd actually rather here about the reception of series prior to the internet boom. Like nowadays we even have grandmas on YT praising SMT. But back then, was it Columbine-wannabe tier or just "that weird Japanese shit"?
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>>499712229
>>499712415
>>499712682
You know you're actually posting in the same way that guy did. Even doing the whole "ALL CAPS" in quotation thing he did. Are you falseflagging?

>>499712771
>>499712876
>exactly one minute apart
Never mind I think I have my answer.
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>>499712765
Allegory
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>soul scream
boy I sure do like dying
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>>499713140
>schizo mass reply post
>/v/ reaction image
just beautiful, a model god awful post from a fucking retard
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>>499713207
>He didn't use Soul Scream to his advantage
Skill issue
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>>499713230
>no argument
concession accepted, genuflection expected.
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>>499713117
it was the nichest of the nichest. I think even Rhapsody sold more copies. I don't even know why they bothered to bring P2 here since they did the second fucking game and when you tried to play it it didn't make any sense halfway through the game.
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>>499713165
this game is much more of an allegory than a metaphor but unfortunately the latter is just a cooler sounding word and japan gives no fucks
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>>499713230
Is that a yes? I've been on /vg/ a long time so I know your schizo tricks schizoman.
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>>499713207
Unironically, give Heismay the Knight taunt. By the end of the game he has 99 agility, he will just stand there and eat their turn icons
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>>499713270
Yeah the skeleton in the tower doesn’t show mercy
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>>499713375
>mass reply retardation
>/v/ reaction images
>"muh concession" stock buzz phrase that only retarded people losing an argument online trot out
hand crafted god awful shitposts by someone having a mental breakdown *chef's kiss*
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>>499713534
>still no argument
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>>499708060
P5 is better but you really should just play both and never care about anything else ever again besides the next kino game from the non zoomers at Atlus
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>>499713534
>"muh concession" stock buzz phrase that only retarded people losing an argument online trot out
You mean like instantly accusing someone of being mad and having a mental breakdown? You're really just making the falseflag accusation feel more accurate bromano.
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>>499713653
>"muh argument"
I always wondered why retards here say that when the post was clearly a statement of fact and not an argument. Poor grasp of English?
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They clearly want me to use the Prince but they didn't give it a SINGLE magical almighty skill? Not even a synthesis? Really?
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>>499713718
why are you mad though?
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>>499713807
The people doesn't want a MAG king.
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>>499713829
>>499713760
>you're mad
>you're an ESL
>concession accepted
Do you have a bingo card or something? Are you winning?
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>>499712831
>actual retard
>also didn't spoiler his post
You deserve every insult you get
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>>499713760
>refuses to present a counterargument, just seething
lol, IESLB as always from you shitters
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>>499713925
you've confused two different posters as one, congratulations, retard!
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>>499713970
>I'm not seething, you're seething
boo get new material it's old as fuck
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>>499713051
Once again its the braindead apes in the community calling the best part of the game the worst, just like with P5
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>>499712831
kys
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You ever play this hit game Metaphor? Maybe you've heard of it.
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>>499712831
The game is obviously undercooked. None of the minor candidates matter or do anything, no one on Forden's council even has a name, and there's only 3 real main dungeons in the game (3.5 if you want to count Martira's chopped up mess) and one of them was lifted directly from another game
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Oh my fucking god shut up already.
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Is there a way to remove the dread weather from dungeons? What does it change?
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>>499714110
Are you okay? Why are you so angry?
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>>499714195
Now this is a cope if I've ever seen one
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>>499714110
Coming to /meta/ after beating the game and seeing this mindset is like studying the north sentinel island people, how can one be so retarded to think the opera house and onward wasn't kino supreme?
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>>499714213
You bribe your brother-in-law with an ocean's worth of tuna.
But Dread isn't the bad weather, Blight is.
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>RETARD RETARD STUPID FAGGOT RETARD STUPID
you guys are heated today, huh?
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>>>>>
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>>499714213
Dread doesn't do anything. It's the new red sunshine
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.ydaerla pu tuhs dog gnikcuf ym hO
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>>499714272
I just would have preferred some breathing room. A dungeon would have been nice.
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Whenever actual story happens in a game is always the part zoomers find the worst, it's almost like they aren't even there for that and just want slice of life mixed with gameplay
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>>499714272
The pacing is awful
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Oh, the Persona 5 superfan melty is over? So yeah, Royal kinda sucks. People tell me I look like Joker, though.
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https://x.com/thirdracket/status/1849611974293741612
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>>499714413
Agreed, I think the breakneck pace is what causes a lot of people to lose their understanding. Stepping back and re-evaluating everything that happened made me appreciate it much more
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>game was finished last year
>had a whole year to add mage academy dungeon back in
>didn't
umm Atlus bros?
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>>499714469
Almost a decade on and you still haven't gotten over it lmao
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>>499714469
Why are you talking about yourself in the third person?
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>>499714523
Our Del didn't ask for this.
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>>499714573
Royal is only 5 years old though. Do you have trouble with numbers, retardbro?
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>>499714463
Learn how to read and you won't have to worry about ultra fast or super slow pacing in anything
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>>499708060
I don't know about Royal but P5 does a better job in almost every aspect. Metaphor is nice anyway so you should probably play it anyway.
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>>499714618
>incomprehensible retard post
I guess this was an attempt at humor? Maybe?
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>>499714571
As unbelievable as this is for the games industry in 2024, I think they spent that time doing QA, given you can play this game for 100 hours and never see a bug
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Oh my fucking god this place looks like /pg/
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I like that this retard had just basically proven this post >>499713140 right. Like every single post is like AI trained on /v/ shitposts throwing in as many buzzwords as possible and attempting to be as obnoxiously irony drenched as humanly possible.
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>>499714763
There's no game to play. It's missing all the dungeons and story
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>>499714195
Feels so transparently like a way to make a re-release and put on switch 2 as well
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>Heismay's turn on low health
>"My son must wait...just a little while longer"
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>>499714763
They actually spent time getting it ready for multiplatform release. There are tiny visual bugs I've seen from skipping everything on my ng+ run.
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>>499714729
Sorry imbecile, your new toy has obvious flaws. Keep crying about it.
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>>499714867
>I like how my own post that I wrote and spam mass replied is terrible
we know
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Royal isn't canon.
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We're cooked if a youtuber makes a video exposing the game cutting corners
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>>499714823
not really there’s no red haired menace
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>>499714908
And there it is
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>499715026
You won't fool me schizo. I'm not giving you anymore (you)s you so desperately crave.
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I don't even care about persona at all
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>>499715026
giving a (You) in stead of that guy
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This game is an unfinished mess
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>>499715162
>I need the last word so so so so bad... but I'm angry, what passive aggressive thing can I do to still win?
lol
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>>499715107
We still the other annoying posters in here
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>>499715254
not
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wait so if the mutated humans all split into tribes and forgot that they were even human to begin with, why did they still refer to ultra-mutated, monstrous humans as humans? I don't know if I'm retarded or if this wasn't explained well enough. Surely having that frame of reference would mean they knew they were humans to begin with?
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>>499715229
Pretty based, m'boy.
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>>499715331
Stop asking questions consume the unfinished product
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>>499715331
Church knows the truth and covered it up so history wouldn't repeat with magic
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where did the schizo retard get the 'unfinished' thing anyways
game is long as crammed with content at the end
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>>499715481
Wow this story is fucking shit it's no wonder literally no one is talking about it
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>Wow this story that I didn't play and just read right now via someone else's comment is fucking shit it's no wonder literally no one is talking about it
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>schizo immediately shifted to shitting on Metaphor again after his Persona bait stopped working
Like clockwork.
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>>499697398
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Will would beat the shit out of Joker. Louis would beat the shit out of Akechi.
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>>499715543
Idk
His mantra is like: "stop asking questions start spamming random shit until it works"
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Opera House is the new great filter
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>>499715885
Dragon Temple (Grand Filter of Gameplay)
Opera House (Grand Temple of Story)
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>this thread
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Will will never be a superboss in another game.
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What order should I tackle the quests and bounties in the final month? I don't wanna fly somewhere just for it to be 20 levels higher than me on accident.
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>>499715961
and thank god for that. I'm glad Tactica making a big stinky mess on the floor that daddy had to clean up means less milking the cows until they turn to dust
Shit was embarrassing.
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How did Will kill his own shadow
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>>499715885
>h-hey guys I just kind of wish they gave us a dungeon or something after the opera house but before the next major story development
>FUCKING PLEB GOD DAMN IT YOU BRAIN DEAD FUCKS CAN'T APPRECIATE TRUE KINO WHEN IT'S STARING YOU IN THE FACE
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posting it again
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>>499715885
I do actually have a complaint about the opera house, specifically that if Eupha dies it's an instant game over, the enemies only target her, and all of the guard guys have two attacks she's weak to and cannot be ambushed. Why the fuck did they make that so annoying for 5 minutes
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>>499715885
You can't tell me there shouldn't have been a real dungeon.
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>Beat the entire game on hard mode
>Except the final boss because i was out of MP and there was no way to go back unless i wanted to the last 3 hours all over again
>They couldn't at least give an MP refill in the second phase

Will get to it eventually but kinda took the wind out of me ngl

9/10 tho
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>>499716245
For the opera house? No
Everyone and their mother will tell you mage academy should be in though
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>>499716274
I managed to do it on 0 mp in p2 but I was stocked up on mag potions, fun fight all things considered
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>>499716201
Just give her some healing m8 or put her on another archetype for like 5 minutes
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>>499715885
>characters acting like retards is a great filter
I guess you're right
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Alright, time to play persona 5 royal. Let's see what's the fuss all about
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>>499716491
Had 0 mag potions lmao. Only discovered the vegetable bun thing during the last week.
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>>499716579
Have fun anon. Ignore seething schizos.
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>>499716583
anon? you know you can buy infinite of them from neuras at the runner in tyrant's star, right?
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>>499716579
Remember the red hair girl is forced in
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>>499716527
You aren't in the game tho
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>>499716579
Good luck anon
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>>499716652
Excuse me?
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>>499715331
Some things get jumbled in meaning following a complete societal collapse. After the big disaster was over, there were basically three groups that knew what the fuck was going on. The Mustari, the Eldans, and what would be the Sanctists. The Mustari lost their history and relegated it to mythology, while the Sancists created a fictitious history with the explicit purpose of burying the truth to avoid a repeat disaster and bringing about a doctrine of self-control against fear and anxiety which was "Close your eyes and give your grief to God". The igniters too were part of this as well, but like everything humans touch, it was twisted for power and gain. The doctrine also explicitly condemns Eldans as liars and deceivers. That, coupled with the Eldans being reclusive meant that the last group of people that could explain "we are all humans" is shut out and shut away and that's the big key to your question. All the tribes, save the rats, don't realize that they're all products of the remnants of humanity and that's exactly how the church wants it. So the races become not-human and the enemy becomes humans. Which again, makes it all the harder for the Eldans to spread the truth.
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>>499716117
Anon just lack any sort of critical thinking
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>>499716171
>tfw I made this crop days ago and it just gets more relevant the longer the game's success stretches on for
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>>499716579
People who didn't play it before Royal have it good, it's a great experience exactly once but I could never bring myself to sit through 150 hours of Persona 5 again after beating the base game at release
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>>499716868
speak to him at the runner, he will both fully heal the party's hp/mp whenever you want (for farming) and sells infinite MP potions alongside good gear and consumables
>>499716907
you're a godsend anon
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How about we have a meltdown about SMTVV next
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>>499716201
You actually got her killed? Jesus, dude.
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>>499716667
I wonder what people who start with that first and never played the original think
>why does she not interact with the rest of the crew? Maybe she's a GHOST, I think I've figured out the plot
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>>499716993
Holy fucking shit im gonna kill myself now. Thanks for pointing it out anon.
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>>499717000
Personaonlybabs got filtered hard so it's hard for them to talk about what they didn't play
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>>499716901
If you were any good at critical thinking you would be able to deal with three big story scenes happening in a row
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>>499717125
all good, I had no idea until someone in the thread pointed it out to me, might add it to the OP next bread just so people see it
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>>499716878
I think my question is more "why do they even call them humans if no one really knows what humans are anymore"
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>>499716579
Take your Time
Seriously, just sit back and enjoy the ride. Fuck fast travel. Rushing the game just makes the pacing issues worse.
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>>499717000
DUDE CARS
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>>499717008
They killed her from full HP on their first turn, which I was obviously not expecting from some random guard NPCs. This only happened once, too, their AI just decided to be mean
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>>499717187
The answer is there in that wall of text somewhere. The church's big goal initially was to bury the past so far that nobody could ever find it. Part of that, was turning the historical humanity (which Eldans will tell you is actually us), into mindless monsters. It keeps people away from the truth and Eldas in one move.
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Metaphor: Re Fantazio Premium Deluxe Golden Royal edition checklist
>Full version of Opera House as actual dungeon
>Full version of Mage Academy with new city or village or camp or whatever and new base and it's sidequests
>Full version of Eldan Sanctuary as new base and it's sidequests, discovering the secret by yourself instead of infodump
>Batlin Follower with Bard archetype
>Playable Rella with Saint archetype
>Better Archetype progression
>Regicide fix
>Post-game dungeon
>Akademeia will have three more sealed red books
>MC King archetype
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>>499716579
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>>499717496
You forgot the Idlesweek epilogue section where they add in romance that ends up making nobody happy, as well as a single dungeon with it.
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>>499717496
>Full version of Opera House as actual dungeon
Again this is entirely unnecessary. Let them put some varied gameplay in with a setpiece that suits it
I legit think Recigide is just going to get a patch made to the game as-is
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>>499717719
>>499717496
What would they change about regicide?
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>>499717496
>>499717719
What's wrong with regicide?
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>>499717783
make it good
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>>499717783
>>499717790
I'm 100% convinced that you're supposed to be able to pick it for NG after beating the game once and it just isn't working correctly
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>>499717496
Rella will never get that, Maria took her whole slot as healer.
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>>499717889
Oh you mean it being NG+ exclusive. I actually disagree. With the exp gains and MAG gains I genuinely don't think it works as a NG playthrough and anyone playing it that way through editing the game files is coping. It just adds unnecessary grind for no reason.
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I don't want playable rella I just want a dungeon fixated on her to show more of what the king's inaction cost
Opera House is pure kino btw
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>>499718082
This nigger gets it.
GIVE ME THE ACADEMY
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this game is shit with cut content unfinished as fuck
It doesn't even let you play as the Mustari innkeeper to see his inner struggle and turmoil as he's torn between the life and place he built for himself and his duty to his homeland and heritage
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>>499718082
Opera house was where the game peaked for me. I can't remember the last time i was invested to the degree i was during the spear throw.
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>>499718016
The MAG costs are exactly why it being NG+ run only makes no sense. Why even do that if the one thing you don't have to do from NG to NG+ is spend MAG on skills and archetypes again?
It works almost exactly like SMT3 hard mode
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>>499718308
Which is what Metaphor hard mode exists for.
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>>499714194
Metaphor for what?
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>Strohl gets a sword that does 3x damage
oh baby
Peerless Stonecleaver doing more damage than Mr. Fancy Pants Prince
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Suddenly flying through 50 different plot revelations is good actually
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>>499718280
Yeah there's so much shit left out of the game, it's unreal. Like where the fuck is my three-hour Eupha bath peeping minigame holy fuck
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>>499718631
Yes. I dislike retarded padding. Glad you agree.
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What was the deal with Will hearing Eupha's voice telepathically? I swear they didn't touch upon it again
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>>499718631
>already established he couldn't read but also can't count either
Isn't everyone supposed to be good at one or the other?
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>>499718684
Good thing they rectified the slow pacing of the first part
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>lock onto enemy
>dash attack to them
>for some reason the enemy's counter-attack breaks lock-on
>lock-on automatically changes to a red-level enemy off-screen
>dash attack is going through before I even know it
>red enemy has already queued an attack
>get smacked before I even have time to process what happened
What the fuck
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>>499718709
It was foreshadowing for donut steel anon
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>>499718709
They didn't but, I actually realized what was going on there.
It's a trait that's innate to the Mustari. They're one of the races that was created artificially rather than as an adaptation. Part of their attunement to magla however, is being able to converse with beings of pure Magla, which allows them to control or commune with things like dragons and why one eventually became their God. Eupha's third eye saw you long before your caught her in the bath, and that with her ability to talk to you because of you being a pure-Magla being, is what caused her to think you were the Dragon God's messenger. It's fucking kino and I have ZERO idea why it's not explained in game.
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How does the archetype experience gained when using a mastered archetype differ from gaining it directly? Is there a loss?
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>>499719235
You get one 1,000 AEXP item for every 1,000 AEXP the mastered one gains. So as long as you hit that mark, there's zero loss.
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>>499719235
No, there is zero reason to not just always keep everyone equiped with a maxed archetype because the conversion is exactly 1 to 1.
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>>499719038
That's really cool, I didn't know that. Where does it say that the Mustari are artificially created?
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>>499719235
It's fixed at 1000 to level when maxed out and has 0 loss which is how you can clear some fights and get like 16 archetype exp items
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>>499719296
>>499719317
Oh cool. I figured there must be a loss
Kind of a bad move to go right into the next ones so far it seems
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>>499719436
You can unlock then and just leave them aside until you've gained enough AEXP items to instantly max them.
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>Gets high on Eldan pussy and brings a mongrel child into the world
>Allows the church to invade the Eldan sactum and burn it to the ground
>Radicalises Louis to the point he is willing to bring about an apocalypse
>Gives up on all his ideals even though he is LITERALLY the King
>Enacts a final spell that could very well see Louis come to power
>Only be luck his son turned out to be a worthy hero and even then he tries to suck the ideals out of him when he's at his most vulnerable
>"No regrets btw"
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>>499719642
The mom was practically wonder woman you would do the same thing
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Why is Bas always gassing up our Del's strength all he ever put up was a shield
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>>499719642
>Gives up on all his ideals even though he is LITERALLY the King
Literally me. Depression is a bitch.
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>>499719642
He sucks
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>>499719887
I saw everyone constantly gushing over how much they surprisingly liked Del when they expected to hate him and I genuinely have no idea why. I think he might actually be my most hated character in the game.
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Man Basilio's rank 8 hits hard.
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>>499719642
>>499719792
>>499719962
>>499720117
Twink death fucked him up
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Just got the x3 Damage with Gold skills and holy shit. I basically killed Lina in 2 hits in the Coliseum.
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>>499720512
I just double tapped her with Blizzaton lmao
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The final dragon is the most niggerish fight in the game
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Why does persona master have no p5 references
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>tfw no fairy wife
what am I supposed to do with this fantasy
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Which tower should I do first?
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>>499720771
Paladin carries that fight hard
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>>499720771
which one
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>>499719351
It doesn't. Just that some are and some aren't. But its an educated guess based on which mutations are the most practical versus which are mostly cosmetic. Mustari definitely fall under practical mutation
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>>499721309
Ishkias are probably artificial too, these wings are useless, no evolution is gonna bring those out ever.
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>>499720771
>Walk in
>Sable Dance
>Bounce Blackguard hammer between Dork Knight and Prince
>Heal with Summoner
>Finish with Royal Sword for cinematic points
wow, so hard
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>Formidable Foe basically never plays again after the Heismay arc
Shame, it was pretty good too
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>>499721501
That was my guess too. Roussainte might be a bit of both, but Clemar and Paripus are definitely natural. Eugief are the interesting ones as they could very well be natural given what happened to the other animals.
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The pre-combat stuff where you break the stamina bar takes SO LONG on Regicide, I'm starting to hate it
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>>499720852
Doesn't really matter. Just make Insolence (Montario) the last.
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You wanna check the large igniter, right anon?
You do, right?
You did it last time so surely you wanna do it again at this exact position, right?
You already did, though, last time, remember? It's a magic igniter, enormous compared to those used by the army. If you recall correctly, it uses magla crystals as fuel.
Don't you remember all that? Why do you wanna check it again? Well, I won't stop you, anon, you can read that dialogue again if you like, you clearly weren't looking to do anything else when you pressed A at this exact position.
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>>499722024
SPOILER SHIT FAGGOT
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>>499722024
kek
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>>499722069
What? Will got his hair did. That ain't no spoiler.
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>>499722024
lmao
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ahh, the megaten /v/fags fucked off, now we can finally discuss metaphor
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>>499722069
>spoiled on the large igniter dialogue
Sorry anon, I know it's pretty important
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>>499722265
What are you talking about? Megatenfags and /v/fags are mutually exclusive groups.
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>>499722369
so how did you like Metaphor ReFantazio, anon?
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Basedsilio had the best quotes, bar none.
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>>499722535
I'd say it stands wonderfully on it's own, but falls short in particular categories when compared to mainline or purse owner. A great 8-9/10.
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It's crazy how nothing in this game compares to the 4th dungeon. It's final dungeon tier
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>>499722715
that's great anon im glad you had fun with it :)
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>>499721752
Yeah, I just stopped using it.
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>>499719887
Del has to be strong to be one of Louis's top men. He just never got a chance to show off all he can do.
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...Say that again, Strohl?
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7/10 game
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>>499717496
Prince archtype is on the tier of messiah/ookami/satanael. I dunno how you could one up it.
It being available for free is already super wack.
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I don't think Zorba's >I was discriminated against in the military is a believable enough reason for his zealotry
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I want Metaphor 2 already
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me and my boyfriend
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I'm in the last month of the game so I think I can safely rank the party characters based on how much I like them.

Strohl > Neuras > Heismay > Gallica > Hulkenberg > Eupha > Basilio >>> berg talking about food > Junah
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>One shot the final Coliseum enemy

A bit anticlimatic
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>>499723556
Im sorry about your shit taste.
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Junah casually dropping the fact that she was a slave like it was dialogue you'd talk about over coffee.

Junah becoming an international spy and endangering her life beacuse she wanted to "improve her singing through experiences".

This character is incredibly poorly written.
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>>499723325
He's gay, anon
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Junah is the worst female Atlus character since Ann.
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>>499700329
>>499699595
Word you are looking for is leitmotif, and yes, its kino every single time.
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>>499723819
Delusional. Ann is x20 better than her.
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Should I get fucked up on bourbon or not
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>>499723819
But enough about Eupha.
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>>499723918
You have work tomorrow dipshit
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>>499723918
Yes
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>>499724045
Yeah, you're right.
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>>499723754
I really thought her motivation was a joke
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>>499724125
NTA but I was 100% sure that she was lying and was a tiple spy or something. My disappointment was immense.
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I smell coping going on
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I smell Eupha's fruity perfume
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Heismay for smash
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what triggers the fire dragon's burn down move?
got hit by it twice after resurrecting a teammate
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>>499724621
that's called mustari musk for you
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>>499724772
it's always used one turn after the charm
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>>499724789
Makes sense, given where I'm sniffing
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>>499724813
thanks
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>>499724813
>Get to the fight
>Just wing it and don't bring any anticharm accessories
>Beat the boss with 3 girls charmed and the MC fine
It's my headcanon that we have a mutual agreement to never speak of what happened.
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Archdemon archetype DLC when?[/spoler]
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>>499724957
had only two anti-charm items, so I had to let two of my party members die and duo'd it with MC+Hulkenberg
fuck that shit fight
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>>499724813
I block it and still die, fuggggg
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>>499723556
Hulkenberg > Heismay >= Strohl > Basilio > Gallica > Eupha > Neuras > Rise uh I mean Junah

But honestly I like them all
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Eupha should have killed herself, everyone would have been better off.
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I hate these fucking things so much, worst recurring enemy in the game
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I'm glad Eupha survived, now my country can have the queen it deserves.
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>>499725179
it's an instakill, you need null/repel
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>>499725346
Why are you fighting them? Just smack them and dodge out for free XP
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>>499725450
>free 30 XP
WOOOOOOW
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>>499725436
fuck
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>>499725346
For me it's the fish human. Fuck that piece of shit with his built-in evasion even before he buffs it
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>>499725547
*wiggles in front of you*
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>>499725612
FUCK YOU
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lmao im stuck in a nearly infinite cycle because the ai of this fucking dragon is stupid as hell, let me quit out and restart it god damn it
>strohl gets charmed, is the last one alive
>has repel fire
>dragon keeps doing fire moves on him and skipping his turns
>back to strohl
>can't do shit because he's charmed, not even quit to menu
good game design
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>>499725532
yeah its pretty retarded. Get the null fire from gold beetle exchange and the the other two towers first.
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sniffing Eupha's hairy wifepussy!!!!!!
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>becomes your default archetype
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>>499725745
do another dragon first to get the repel fire chest piece, then set up a hulkenberg with repel fire armor + charm immunity equips and solo it
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How wet was Eupha during her final bond scene?
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>>499725745
It has a turn limit where he'll eventually just tail crush you to death
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>>499725786
Forcibily civilizing her snatch with a razor!
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Where in the hell does Gallica keep her armor? Does she just have magical storage or does she just keep her entire wardrobe in your bag?
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Junah is Will's canon wife.
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>>499725893
All that water in the background, From her.
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>>499726216
It's magic, she doesn't have to explain shit
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Basilio is Will's non-canon wife.
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>>499726216
she summons it from the anti-footfag dimension
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Left or right?
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>>499726549
Left
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>>499726549
If Grius is already rolling in his grave, might as well go big or go home with both.
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>>499726549
Left is daughter, right is mommywife
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>>499701649
Because he already loves you, no need to take him on 8 dates like everyone else
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>>499706570
I might. If they make a 1:1 scale body pillow for Gallica I'll preorder it within an hour of announcement though.
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>>499706921
It does a lot of giving characters accents when they all speak the same in Japanese, while also doing the thee thou thy kind of stuff when most the Japanese sounds fairly normal other than stuff like Louis talking like you'd expect and Heismay using antiquated personal pronouns.
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fuck this fire dragon, I hate charm so much
>two party members charmed, burn down incoming
>no biggie, let's set up this partywide null all and just cure ailments afterwards
>charmed strohl hits protag and this pops the null, causing me to lose two turn icons so I can't cure the charms
>protag dies to the burn down
had to take a mental reset after that
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>>499727135
this, fatlus pls
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>>499727417
>not using the 4 charm-immune accessories the game gives you
NGMI
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>>499727417
>strohl hits protag and pops the null losing two turn icons
out fucking skilled
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>>499727584
i only had two and felt fucking stupid at the top of the tower thinking that i'd have to spend one in-game day to go back to town and buy more
so i bruteforced
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>>499727584
nta but im also stuck at the fire dragon right now
besides the narcissus thing, what other items are there?
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>Eupha can already do aoe extreme damage while Wizard is stuck at single target heavy

what
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>>499710165
You're the prince, the people's dread is your dread
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>People actually needed anti-charm accessories
git gud
GIT GUD
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gorilla grip bussy
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Is there actually any point in Gallica being a fairy other than just being cute and her size being occasionally useful to solve a puzzle? She doesn't act like a fae creature at all, just a normal chick.
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>>499727914
>He uses the archetypes and doesn't just melee
You didn't beat the game
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>>499727703
doing it last by using fire repel, I did it first and just made use of royal hulkenberg's omni-repel, royal heismay turn skipping works as well.
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>>499728039
It's pretty much a plot point that she doesn't act like all the other ADHD fairies
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>>499728039
I guess her being there shows other fairies that they're also welcome elsewhere than the sanctum
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>>499728039
>She doesn't act like a fae creature at all
Because she's not. The other fairies call her out on this.
>>499728183
>He needed to use weapons
Consider your cheevos null and void, pal
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>>499728039
She's just an answer to "what if Pixie was a main character in Nocturne?".
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>>499728039
To have her be alienated from the rest of the fairies by having become too much like the people around her, leaving her in a life where she can never return to where she came from.
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>>499728279
>spoiler
Okay I guess that makes sense, I suppose i'll figure out more about that later on
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>>499728256
The fairies aren't in the sanctum because they're not welcome anywhere else, they stay there because the rest of the world is an anxiety filled shithole and their inherent empathic nature attunes them to it and gives them headaches.
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>>499728039
If you talk to the other fairies it was implied that Gallica used to act more like them, but her journey, and possibly the MC's mother fucking with her memories so she thought her and the MC were best friends for a long time, made her act more human like
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>>499728336
Why would you want to go back to doing pointless fairy shit when you could be the queen
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>>499728408
why dont they have their own village
where is gallica's family
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>>499728483
Because >>499728219
They don't have any families, they're massive airheads, and have ZERO long-term planning skills outside of a few noteworthy exceptions.
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>>499728431
it's implied that she was already like that anyway, though. She was already human enough by the time she was sent on her mission to be entrusted with the responsibility alone. Not sure how it happened, but my guess is something prompted her to hang out with the humans of the Resistance and she gradually became more responsible as a result of that.
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>>499728483
read the memorendium
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>>499728483
Fairies don't live on the same level of reality as the other races. They're functionally immortal, are driven by impulses and emotions in the way a small child would be and eschew any kind of emotional attachment or interest in the world that goes beyond having a good time.
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Could Nidia glamours theoretically work on fairies? Like, if it can turn a small child into a normal looking adult, then theoretically it should be able to turn a fairy into at least a small child.
Don't look at me like that. I don't need your respect, I need to give Gallica the dick.
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>>499716201
why doesn't the kings magic stop everyone else from killing me? is he too busy getting DINNER
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>>499729324
it doesn't extend to monsters
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>>499729324
>midgame louis tells him that shit is gay and to turn it off
>he actually listens
what a fucking cuck
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>>499729582
I mean, Louis HAD the rule-breaking bullshit in his hands. He could just have easily used it again and again and used the protection magic against everyone. But rather, Louis brought about a fair fight.
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Why do they have to make Galica so sex?
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>>499729851
to sell the game and merchandise
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>>499729438
King magic only mark people so I guess that spell need target lock first in order to works
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I didn't buy or use the igniters ever. Sorry Brigitta
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>>499729851
>Game frequently shoves the camera in her tiny fairy ass
They know what they're doing.
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>>499729928
She'd actually praise you for that if anything
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>>499729951
i thought the bare feet gave it away
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Can you go back to the Nord Mines to finish off the Dragon?
>>499729928
But she'd be happy with that
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1:1 scale gallica when?
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>>499722265
>t. Personafag who had been shitting up the thread for 2 hours
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>>499730141
Soon, maybe
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>>499730345
Who is shitting up the thread this time?
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There will never be another Atlus villain, no, JRPG villain as based as Louis Guiabern.
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He's such a real one.
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game was mad gay
nice try hashino but after 8 years this aint it
better luck next time
back to persona 3 reload i guess
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>>499730415
you, obviously
>don't call me out tee hee you're supposed to let me do it in peace
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>Damage boosted against human-type monsters.
>weak
>heavy
>extreme
>severe
>no actual numbers
Nice game atluskeks
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>>499730541
>deload
your opinion means nothing
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>>499730573
gachatard
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Funny how the shitflinging picks up again the moment he's called out
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>>499730553
What the fuck are you talking about, anon? I just asked for clarification on what you meant.
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>>499730608
kinda like yours
>um everyone is wrong only my /v/ opinion is correct and I sad it's LE BAD
Only place on the internet that cries about it LOL
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>>499730573
your opinion also means nothing
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>>499730480
game is full of real ones
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>>499730573
Showing actual stats is something Atlus has always been obnoxiously allergic to. When I highlighted the luck stat and saw "etc" I had a fucking aneurysm
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>>499730714
look man we all know it's you and your passive aggressive non quoting shit. You do it constantly every thread.
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>>499730573
hoyo appeals to yurifags
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>>499730748
Uh huh yeah, sure thing. *wink*
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>/v/schizo hours
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HOW IS NOBODY DYING OF A HEAT STROKE
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It's probably because Personakeks are threatened by this game. Even on Reddit, home of the Persona 5 Fanclub they're saying the formula works better in this game.
They feel scared we'll leave high school and teenagers behind (not likely).
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>>499730541
>no superboss achievement
didnt beat the game lol
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Calling that thing a superboss is quite an undeserved compliment.
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>>499726549
I'll be sure to take care of both of them.
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>>499731061
No, it's because the shitposter gets laughed at every time they try to say the game flopped because it's divorced from reality, then he tried the
>it's unfinished
shit and that didn't work either because he didn't actually play the game, so now he pretends to be SMT or Persona fans to stir up shit (but again, he doesn't know anything about either series).
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>>499731032
47c isnt THAT bad anon, if the humidity is high that's extremely bearable
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>>499731236
No you dumbfuck, humidity makes things WORSE
t. Gator farmer
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>>499731342
t. Texasfag, humidity is both a good and a bad thing, I think I generally prefer it
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Catherina plap
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Hulkenberg owes me sex
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>enter volcano
>there's a fucking door

you can't be serious, they weren't even trying man
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>>499731558
Believe me, you don't. Dry heat is far more manageable than humid heat. Heat stroke with 95 burgers and 99% humidity is far more likely than 105 burgers with 15% humidity. Shit gets hard to breathe in at that point.
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>>499731032
as a texan this is just daily life
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>>499731558
High Desertfag here
all heat sucks
humid heat is from the devil
dry heat is the lesser of two evils by a magnitude of 1000000
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>>499731814
Probably just an issue when it's super high then, we were in 105-110 ish with 30-40% daily and it was rough but bearable, dunno about adventuring in it though
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Hulkenbergs foot belongs in my mouth
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I thought dungeons in this game were cool but after the fourth island everything just looks the same and with recycled layout and enemies
what is this shit man
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>>499731936
yes but consider, they are not humans. Perhaps they're all heartier than us.
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>>499731936
Trust me brother, it's far far worse. Come visit sometime in the summer and try swinging a sledge around for a few hours. You'll be dying before noon.
You also get breaks in the evening and at night. We don't. We walk outside before dawn and get slapped with air that might as well be water at 90+
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>muh missing content
meanwhile I think in reality, most people who get past Snow Town are about ready to put a bow on things
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Eupha has the worst social link by far
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>>499732683
Junah, easily.
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>>499732683
Heismay, easily
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>>499732683
Junah's is considering half of it is about some bitch nobody even cares about
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>>499733058
>considering half of it is about some bitch nobody even cares about
thats every main party social link in persona and metaphor
everything important has to be covered in the main story so the optional social links need to have something pedantic to be about
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>>499733058
I thought she looked cute
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>>499689762
Louis says he had no knowledge of how the scepter actually worked until the king explained it.
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Thank you Alonzo, you are a real one never5get
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how do i kill the last trial boss
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>>499733308
wait for idlesday RETARD
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>>499733463
waiting for sales is for poor people like you
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>>499733508
Based Merchant
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>>499733431
Easily. Just burn his ass and don't bring repel
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>literally gets away with everything
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If you marry Fabienne you're stuck raising a mutt born of a failure of a warrior.
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>>499733883
I like they were completely irrelevant to anything
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I really like the flying music.
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>>499733883
why did the whole le evil council never actually do anything of importance in the story
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Alonzo has the best social link
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>>499733970
Because they never actually had any real power.
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>>499733970
That's the point, they're incompetent retards obsessed with preserving their positions of power to the detriment of society
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>get ambushed a couple times
>able to escape

>start grinding mob spawners
>big guys get a lucky hit and start an ambush
>lol you cant escape *wiped*
Fuck you game
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so you basically can stay in a dungeon as long as you want with the Prince's regen, right?
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>>499734962
No.
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thank you snow storm
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>>499734962
You can already do it day 1 with Mage
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>>499735157
shit team
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How the fuck did they crack Denuvo?
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>>499735231
magic sucks, using Bas because "da META" sucks, in short, you suck
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>>499735302
Bypass it with demo exe
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So this game is the Turn A of Atlus games, right?
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>Oh NG+ will be fun I can try different builds
>Realize going STR is self-sabotage because the first FOUR party members you get are STR-based
>trying other paths for other characters
>it's just not as fun

well there goes that run

Dunno how anything can be more fun than Elemental Master, Royal Dancer, Royal Ninja and Saviour
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>>499735302
they didn't they used the demo, but that's also why they game keeps freezing and fucking up and you only hear
>haha i can pirate
and not actual things about the game or anyone who beat it
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>>499735231
imagine not using who you like on a game this easy even on hard
couldn't be me
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>>499735390
It doesn't matter when you can just equip your end game gear and steam roll every thing in that first dungeon
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Anyone think Metaphor was planned to be more ambitious than it ended up being? Like I'm 99% sure SMT-esque L/N/C routes were being planned at one point.

I feel as if they wanted to pull more from other Atlus franchises and be more than just fantasy Persona with some SMT/Etrian references every once in a while/
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>>499736028
yea
mage academy and romances were probably planned
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Canonbros, it's over....
Proof that the MC is canon STR build...
how could we have been so wrong?!
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>>499736028
I think at the end of the day that Atlus gave Hashino a "safe" budget and we got what we got instead of giving Hashino the equivalent of a blank cheque and possibly ending up with a huge mess. I think Atlus will probably have more confidence now and may increase the resources for the next title.
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>>499736028
The fact that the dungeon design peaked at the 4th one says it all really
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>persona 5
>every dungeon has a unique aesthetic and theme with appropriate gimmicks such as gambling mechanics in Sae's palace

>metaphor
>dude crawlspaces lmao
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>>499736282
you forgot
>Persona 5
>every dungeon is a retardproof straight line except for the ship, and the space station which caused immeasurable ass-pain and seethe from "fans" online
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>>499735884
Worst part is she got the idea from a (((clemar)))
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post the TRUE, RIGHTFUL KING
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>>499736282
>persona 5
Try every single RPG in the last five years or so that's not an indie title.

Even then.

Roguelikes and even "SNES inspired" $2 budget games have more of a variety.
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>>499736282
>gambling mechanics in Sae's palace
You mean the ones you rig in your favor? The ones you don't actually gamble on?
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>>499736621
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fucked up going hard on archetype mastery for the protag because the reward from the trial of the dragon was so ass. Decent for the story though
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>>499736795
theyre rigged against you in the first place because of Sae's psyche
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>>499711037
midori
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>>499710985
Why don't they all just use UE?
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just finished the final dungeon
pure fucking kino from start to finish
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>>499737058
shader stutter on SMTVV was AIDS, i dont know if its bad with P3 reload though.
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>>499736282
they'll get your ass for this but you're right. The good thing is that Metaphor's combat and pacing is so much better that I forgive the shittier dungeon design.
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>>499737163
worked on my machine
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>>499737058
Hashino and Studio Zero know GFD engine the best because they quite literally designed it.
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>>499736028
Between the obvious mage academy cut and mechanics like popularity rank that don't actually do anything, or royal virtues being limited only to follower ranks and nothing else, the amount of named/faced characters who basically don't do shit like the other candidates or the evil Sanctis council, etc. etc. They definitely planned a lot of big stuff and were forced to cut down.
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>>499737202
they all suck, outside of the moon phase gimmick from SMTIII i cant remember a creative dungeon design from atlus.
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>>499737353
i like how RGG is still using the dragon engine as they seem very comfortable with it and the physics are well-suited for their games but i dont know if i can handle another catherine/persona 5/metaphor-looking game in 2026/2027
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I like metaphor's dungeons because they embody the ps2 era kino that has been lacking from modern games.
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Your DLC will just be extra colosseum fights and you will enjoy it.
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>>499737520
this
the whole game feels like it came from a time when games were just better
the final dungeon and boss feel like something squaresoft would have made
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>>499737515
Well if P6 is using UE6 then that means Hashino likely took the engineers with him over to Studio Zero as well, and if Atlus is confident in Studio Zero after Metaphor then maybe Studio Zero can use some of the budget to try and bring the engine into the more modern age.
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>>499737717
their engine doesnt even support TAA or dynamic lighting
its completely archaic and the fact they genuinely used it for a AAA 2024 release is emblematic of hashino's insolence
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>Metaphor only has 8 ranks because 9 and 10 are reserved for romance except for best girl
Bravo hackshino
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>>499736297
Fuck I thought she was pantyless but my goonbrain didn't even think of trying to upskirt her, of course she would be wearing panties, that sucks
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>>499737982
Rank 9 is essentially what you get before the final battle. Rank 10 is the epilogue scenes.
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>>499731558
Absolute fucking retard.
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>>499737717
idk the engine doesnt look that special, probably could recreate the same look in UE or unity or whatever. i just want TAA and textures that aren't absurdly low res like the ones in metaphor.
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>>499731936
30-40% humidity is not high at all.
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why does MC never tell gallica he loves her
that's so cold
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If Louis is a chaosfag, then Will is a lawfag?
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>Gallica doesn't have an arc crying about how she's useless
>Heismay is based and mature instead of whiny and loud
>Sthrol isn't a blatant retard
>Hulkenberg isn't annoyingly snarky trying to be smarter than you
>Junah and Eupha aren't obnoxious or cowardly about their MC crushes
>Basilio is just all around great
Hard to believe Atlus finally figured it out.
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>>499738802
junah is not attracted to MC retard
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How hard is the social links? Do I need a guide?
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>>499739075
yea
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>>499739075
Not hard. No guide.
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>>499737982
there's romance in this game? nearly have everyone at rank 8 and i'm in the 10th month
am i going to be missing content
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>NPC at the entrance of the volcano tells you the boss uses dark magic
>he actually uses light
i've been bamboozled.
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>>499739496
spoiler it please
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>>499739589
fuck off
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>>499739631
>be a gay retard
>double down
have you tried not being a gay retarded faggot?
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>>499738802
>Gallica instead handles her issues like a normal person by talking to Will, working things out, and promising she'll do her best
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>>499739631
newfag bro, it's really easy. Highlight the text, then press control + s
You can do it, newfag bro
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>>499739687
not even him just wanted to tell u to fuck off
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You receive bonus stats when maxing out archetypes, right? Do the bonus stats go to the character itself or is it bound to that specific archetype?
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>>499739773
The character.
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>>499738802
>Gallica doesn't have an arc
yeah
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>>499739768
not the one you replied to; just wanted to tell you you are a gay retard.
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>>499739756
testing it now
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>>499739915
her EN VA is really cute
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>>499739801
Thanks, guess I should make an effort to max them out even if I'm not using them.
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>full buffs into full debuffs followed by charge into severe physical almighty resulted in THIS
Holy fuck
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i've gone all in on physical with strohl, hulk, and bas
i have no idea how I'm supposed to play with the persona girl and summoner
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From the scale of Nanako dying, Makoto sacrificing himself to getting teamwiped by Yadalbaoth in P5, how's the suffering/depression in Metaphor?
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>>499740271
You'd want Junah for her party-wide charge synthesis.
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What if I had sex with Hulk?
Wouldn't that be funi? I think it'd be really funi.
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>>499739915
ew
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>>499740898
upgrade your shitbox
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YOOOOOOOO
YOOOOOOOO
IT'S HIIIIIIIIIIIM
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>>499740898
AAAAAAAAHHH KUSOOOOOOOO FILTHY GAIJIN PIGGU NO UNDERSTANDO GRORIOUS NIHONGO NOODERU KOHDINGU
*fling katana accross the tatami room*
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>enemy wide debuffs are synthesis exclusive
>party wide Heat Riser is limited to a cooking item
>can repel at best one magical element with gear, unless you want to gamble with Knight's 15% passives, or spam the karn skills
>nulling just isn't a thing outside of one armor piece from an endgame boss
>straight up no way to drain elements unless I miss something
>lategame has a way to remove all enemy press turns via dodge tanking, usually through Heismay
>various perks and skills that add press turns
Interesting decisions on those aspects. Not sure how you balance player build freedom but also making the game have enough bite to be challenging. At least the average person gets filtered by Zorba, or the ice dragon, so that's something.

At the very least it all seems intentional, and not completely batshit like P5R's Izanagi-no-Okami or VV's swapping out nonsense.
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>>499740939
i switched to 200% rendering scale and it was roughly the same performance, this pc port is utterly fucked
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>>499740898
i've had consistent 60 fps everywhere except for the gauntlet runner when it was travelling through the mountaineous regions for some reason
it shit the bed there and I could hit 40 fps
I was playing maxed out but even with setting changes it didn't help shit
I have a weird setup though
7800x3d, 32 ddr5 ram, gtx 1080
waiting for my gpu to die and then i'll replace it
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>>499740949
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>>499741047
me too but it seems like rain utterly rapes this game's performance (like usual)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0RUN44kLpE
she cute
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>>499741181
>>>/vg//xivg/
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>>499741307
>base dn reta
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>>499741181
I almost vomited after hovering through that embed button
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Why the fuck does Strohl look so fucking lanky?
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>>499741526
>>499741526
new thread, sorry for messing up the backlink in the OP (kills self)
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Is there any Aexp loss by just keeping your dudes on their strongest archetypes and making items?
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>>499741608
no



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