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About
Throne and Liberty is a PC and console MMORPG offering a mix of tab target and action combat with a shared emphasis on both PvP and PvE. The game features a seamless open world, adaptive weather systems, and a shapeshifting mechanic that lets players transform into sani for exploration and combat strategy. The game uses a free-to-play model with various microtransactions; cosmetics, convenience items, battle passes, and more. The Western publisher, AWS, claims to be aiming to avoid pay-to-win mechanics while enhancing player customization, choice, and experience.

>Builds
https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides
https://metabattle.com/tl/TL_Builds
https://throneandliberty.gameslantern.com/builds

>Database
https://tldb.info/

>Servers
NA East, Lottie; <vidya> (trans friendly)
EU, Kazar; <Pettanko> pw 555444

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>>499726019
>NA East, Lottie; <vidya> (trans friendly)
Too good to be true
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>>499726242
its true join us :)
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using xbow-dagger on my alt to figure out how to counter them, there's literally nothing here, they are non-interactive
no fury attacks to block, no wrath attacks to dodge, their burst has 2 windows of 0.5s CC immunity, and provides free flat damage reduction and evasion through passives, the damage is insane, I got 3 CC breaks, AoE bind, AoE stun, annihilation barrage oneshotting whole groups at a time
what the fuck even is this?
why is this one weapon so radically different in PVP compared to all the others?
I have no idea how someone would stop me on this character, I have multiple answer to anything and nobody can do anything to stop my damage
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there's LITERALLY no point to buying the upskirt dress. the thrill of panty checking other innocent, unaware players going about their day is far more enjoyable than dressing up your doll character.
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>>499612662
>>499716773
>>499613670
>buy a skin
>have to pay even more after you already bought it
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>>499727438
Literally everything is broken when coupled for daggers.
Watch gooks nerf every single weapon but daggers though.
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>>499727517
I really want a skin because my guild leader has the aesthetic sensibilities of a 6 year old girl, just so I don't have to see the emblem on my cape all the time, but I also don't like any of the ones that have been on so far
There's 2 that are on KR that I like, so I'm just waiting for those, also withholding all spending until I see them delivered uncensored
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>>499728059
Yeah it's gay but it's technically as new skin since it's pretty different.
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>>499728204
I can counter GS-Dagger and Staff-Dagger, but I can't do anything to xbow-dagger
there's nothing I can block or anything, and they're immune to CC most of the time and have 3 escapes even if I do manage to hit a bind
on my end there's nothing I can do to interact with them and I can't outDPS them because all their damage is frontloaded
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>its all spanish/portuguese, not chinese
thoughts?
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>>499728801
why would chinese botters bother making a post on a throwaway steam account?
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>>499728906
you could say the same for these beanscum. 20 years later, and they're still the same menace in mmos as they've always been
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>>499728621
Xbow literally just has spin and that's it though. It's dagger skills that make it retarded.
You're not supposed to be able to just stealth up to people and use it with dagger poisons on top.
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they should really just sell the weapon skins as a pack bundle desu
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>>499728906
chinese botter just smarter botter
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>>499729312
no it fucking doesn't, you can slot the spin and still have your whole single target setup too, what are you talking about?
I'm on staff and by the time my first fireball (required bc burn is the setup to all of my damage) hits I'm literally already dead most of the time

yes daggers are fucking busted, obviously, but xbow is also completely insane and both should be heavily nerfed
try playing any other weapon combo and see how different it is
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>>499730310
What single target? Go try xbow. It's pretty much 90% utility. It has no single target damage and the spin is a 1.2m cooldown.
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>>499730310
>xbow starts to spin
>you cc them
wow that was hard
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>>499730476
I'm on xbow right now, retard
Lightning Arrows>Poisons>Mark>Quick Fire>Nimble Leap>Quick Fire is already a kill on basically anybody who doesn't negate you entirely with evasion, you're immune to CC for most of it and can go for another round of Leap into Quick Fire if needed
The only possible counter is Shield using Counter Barrier, and if that happens you just wait it out for 6s, not like they can catch you in a stun or anything with your 3 escapes
>>499730715
with people running close to 1800 evasion, yes it's pretty hard
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is the game only about gear and no actual skill? So far i'm enjoying leveling and doing dungeons but if the end game doesn't depend on personal skill then idk if i wanna keep going. I've heard it was pay to win but i assumed i could just make up for it by grinding a bit more and playing better
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>>499731395
it's P2W but you can make up for it by grinding, theoretically
you can buy all gear in the game with real money, but there's nothing that is downright exclusive to piggies, even if the prices are prohibitive very often
if you know what you're doing and put in the time you can be on a level playing field with a guy on a $4000 character
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>>499731654
>but you can make up for it by grinding, theoretically
i did this but then i wasted it on the shop skins
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>>499731395
By the time you've grinded up the gear to catch up it's already time for new tier to keep piggies happy
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>>499732083
this game is pure torture if youre a collector. you cannot collect the skins at the expense of all other progress. you have to paypig the hell out of the game.
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>>499732083
then you didn't do it
the lithograph for the helmet I need goes for 8k lucent, and then I need 2-3 extracts to unlock the traits, and then I need to trait it
for the kind of lucent you need to gear up, a skin at 1100 is nothing
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This game is dying as we speak. This shits way too boring
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>>499731219
RETARD YOU'RE LITERALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT ASSASSIN SKILLS
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Can someone please tell me what happened to this skin? It didn't have a countdown timer in the shop, yet it went missing. Why?
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should I build pvp or pve gear?
wandbow
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>>499733789
pvp, pve is a joke
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>>499733819
pvp in my server is top guild steamrolling everyone
how is it not a joke
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>>499733917
i meant as in it's so fuckign easy that it's not worth building for
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>>499733973
yeah i guess but if i build pve i'll be able to beat it faster and not wear gay ass plate
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>>499733917
so you can die in 0.75 seconds instead of 0.5
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>>499734085
is it really like this? even with full endurance? i never really pvp'd except accidentally staying in bad places at night and being raped instantly
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i love paypiggies. their skins are all sparkly and bright colored. it makes it easy for me to pick them out of the crowd and gank.
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does this game have a korean rootkit?
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>>499736107
you mean is it a virus and does it mine crypto? yes.
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>>499736315
awesome, how do i claim it?
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>if i want the kraken fishing pole i have to stop getting salt
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hehe
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>>499737007
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>>499737430
eh i don't like how they look
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>>499737493
I'd buy those if it were blue, yellow or white lightning.
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>>499736727
>he hasn't gotten 4 rods from mystic portals already
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why did the devs decide to have multiple dominion events running all at once instead of just one to better congregate the playerbase, just seems so retarded
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>>499738729
>better congregate the playerbase
I mean the times there's a single dominion event, it's an absolute cluster fuck where each colour just sticks to their side anyway
So ultimately who cares
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>br niggers get banned
legitchads win again
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>>499733696
>Lightning Arrows
>Mark
>Quick fire
>Nimble Leap
these are all xbow skills and they do retarded damage
dagger passives give a lot of evasion and some crit, but it's the xbow passives that give a ton of flat damage, and it's quick fire with lightning arrows that does insane damage
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>57k
dead game
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>>499739930
That literally tickles compared to what bow does lmao.
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>hit 2900 minutes before maintenance
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how much time do you give this game until its dead
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>>499739904
their seething on steam breathes life into my soul
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>>499741456
until?
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>Late starter
How to upgrade my gear after 50? Fully trait blues until I get bis purple then transfer blessings to it? Helpo..
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any aus players here? i'm on alexia but it looks like it's 90% japanese (seems like it's a popular streamer server). is there a non-EA english server or is everyone on stormbringer?
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>>499740906
based
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>>499741917
Ideally yeah but you shouldn't sweat it TOO MUCH.
I "bricked myself" by getting the welfare purple weapons but now they already have like 5-6 traits on them just from playing the game and collecting garbage and I haven't seen a single boss weapon drop so whenever I get one I'll just transfer again and this time with even more blessing amount.
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>>499743418
dont stress about "garbage purps" because t2 epics are coming and everyone who tried so hrad will get cucked and you will get a fresh start to catch up. it really doesnt matter.
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>>499740746
xbow trannies will really say shit like this with a straight face
that's the highest frontloaded damage single target burst in the game by such a large margin that it went through 5 rounds of nerfs before reaching global and it's still oneshotting anyone under 1600 evasion
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>>499741917
it's not too simple to do efficiently
you should plan your build ahead, some blue items will last you a very long time and are worth upgrading, some others aren't
there's people here who will tell you to trait blues anyway because you can get blessing when transferring, that would be true if blue extracts weren't massively overpriced right now
the value of a blue is 1/10th that of a purple, but you will see some fodder purples go for 120-150 while the blue version of that trait is up for 30-50

all that said, you can fix your mistakes and technically speaking traiting all your blues does give you some return
the biggest thing really is knowing what you're going for and sticking to it
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I am going to use every single weapon type on my character and level its mastery and skills equally. So that's just how it's going to be, is all. Haha!
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Got it thanks!
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Once I fully trait all of my purples... I would still probably get instagibbed by greatsword users. Who am I kidding.
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game already up?
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>>499752409
yeah im ingame WOAH
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ok whalesissies, post them in the new skin tight skins. lets see em
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i dont even want to login in amyore...
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>weeklies have been reset
hope you bought your trait conversion stones and contracts
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the event dungeon is nice
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Is matchmaking now worth it?
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The funny pumpkinman dungeon is kinda good actually, he has a more mechanics than normal bosses heh.
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I should've made a female character...
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>>499755028
with an appearance ticket you can change the sex too
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>>499754798
whore
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someone please post the weapon skins. I'm not able to log on right now
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>>499755472
Why are you being mean to me bro...
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>can finally have separate chat windows
pretty huge
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>>499754798
sex
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>>499754486
yeah full of good geared people
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>BREAKING: Restoration wizard Laini murdered at Stonegard Castle, corpse reportedly "charred to a crisp." Senior weapon crafter Mustain Hanzo allegedly seen whooping and cheering seconds after her death.
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nyo...
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is there somewhere I can check which resistance quest pouch gives what
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>got my 5th platinum fishing rod from mythic portals in fonos basin
these are not rare
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>>499754346
kek you are right
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>>499758839
are the mythic portal rewards different based on location?
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>>499759326
i don't know, i just mainly do mine there because thats where i do contracts
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>>499751878
Greatsword sucks, it has to go through multiple hit, stun and collision checks to "oneshot" you (in 5 skills), at any point it can fail
literally just get the orb and use it when you get stunned they cant do anything about it
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how do I access the event dungeon
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>0.5% chance for you to get a queen bellandir fragment
>you need 180 (one hundred and eighty) pieces of this shit just to craft the archboss weapon
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How do I become an Anonymous Character
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>>499760760
Dungeon finder cuh
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Did anyone check if their guild bosses reset with the weekly reset?
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>>499762420
Apparently they did, so anyone who didn't rush them last night is now behind every guild that did. I hope they compensate because that is unironically such a big oversight.
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>>499762897
Holy based...
Thank you bezos-sama...
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>>499762897
>Apparently they did
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this event dungeon is so fucking bad
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does spooky pumpkin stack with the other pie with the same effect?
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>>499764094
don't kid yourself, vidya is a guild full of shitters and low gearscore scrubs
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>>499764943
game is dead. people with gear are already in guilds and people with brain have already quit
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>>499764943
and yet vidya is decently leveled compared to most other guilds. there's that at least
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>>499765318
level isn't hard to maintain due to contracts being time limited. as long as you're finishing them it's hard to lose ranking.
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The game is clearly not made for boomers used to farm mobs 12 hours in a row like in good old Lineage 2
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>>499762897
holy shit this is huge lmfao
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its that easy
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>>499766846
its just that easy
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this game is so fucking dogshit
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lottiebabs filtered once again
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>>499767504
like your life dumb currynigger
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>>499768143
im so sorry i insulted your dogshit slop game
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>>499768357
its not for sub 90 iq dogs
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>>499768143
game is literally made for thirdies nice projection rajeet
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the euroniggers are mad about being poor again
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>>499768558
they're so transparent
they're also just trans
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>>499768143
>>499768427
>>499768558
>>499768615
>don't insult my multi billion dollar company game
KEK
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>>499769179
its okay pajeet, work hard and youre going to have some money too
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>ban wave went out
>mass crying in the forums
>guy crying here

its okay pedro
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why are thirdies pretending the game is good now
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>>499770131
Their identity revolves around fomo games
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it's just grating to hear you bitch and moan constantly when we're trying to enjoy something
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>thirdies doesn't mean people in their thirties
am I returded?
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>>499770783
you sound like a normalfaggot npc
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>>499770783
>we
You are literally the only person enjoying this turd
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quick post things that scare euronigs
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F2P pajeets are barely 2400 gear score right now
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>thinks lucent is the issue
holy cope
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>>499771320
yeah I guess it's am pretty normal and not a brown tranny malding faggot like you
thanks
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>defending 4 free
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>>499772129
little nigga getting riled up because someone insulted his NCsoft game
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is there anything i should do before transferring server? or should i hold off for any reason?

i'm transferring to an early access server from launch server (assuming it's been re-enabled), would the auction house be more expensive (i.e. buy stuff before xfer)?
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>non-stop shitposting about hating the game
>other people, who are enjoying it, point out that your a fag
>"wow you're so riled up!"
you know what bro, go off. i think the demo for 4chin skews too young for me nowadays
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>>499772326
>>499772472
4chan is overran by zoomers now sadly.
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am I doomed to always carry 100+ inventory slots of mats?
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>>499772727
So zoomers have better taste than tranime boomers?
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>>499772727
it feels like i'm talking to a newfag. shit is so pathetic.
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>>499771757
saar I am 3.1k and I funded my accccckount with google play cards that I scammed from your bloody bastard grandmother
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oh yeah
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>>499773348
>less than 3.3k
lol lowbird
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>499775769
you bastard I evade your bencho-AAAACK
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Do you go CDR on your Shattering Quarterstaff?
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>>499767504
why is it bad?
i like it
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is there only 1 haunted harvest peddler in vienta village or are there more?
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>>499780184
he got banned for botting/buying lucent from chinks
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>>499780184
>no DR on stuns
>unresponsive abilities
>laggy dogshit
>p2w garbage
>low dropchance dogshit
>unbalanced pvp in a pvp mmo
>>>>>>>>>zergs
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>>499762420
>>499762897
Not only were guild boss reset, if you bought the weekly scrolls on Wednesday reset, they also reset on Thursday.
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>>499781480
based nolifers winning again
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>>499781417
you forgot
>evasion
>hit chance
>reaper ults
>arena dominated by whales
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>your server can be ruined at any time if a zerg alliance decides to transfer to it
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gotta be honest lads, i'm thinking of switching from xbow/dagger to bow/dagger
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>>499781417
>shitty netcode
>worst FOMO (7 days)
>hostile alliance can't be attacked in open world in a pvp mmo
>everythings is built around for whales having a playgorund to zerg noobs on
Yeah, game is dead in one month.
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>>499783659
infiltrator chads stay winning
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This event seems awfully generous for a game like this. They afraid of all the F2Pers quitting? Gotta keep them around to give whales something to kill
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>>499781417
>p2w and dropchance
I'm f2p at 3.2k with a proper build (not meme traits) and 4k lucent saved up i could blow on sdb traits but I'm trying to be more efficient. The interesting part about this game is the systems are not very intuitive. You are not supposed to target farm your item, the auction house is the main system of the game, everything else exists in function of the ah. I am comfortable with how much lucent I have as f2p and it's enough for a full build but just barely.

About the stuns I think stun combos are just supposed to be broken by whoever is not stunned or you can use the trinket, it might be a skill issue but i'm bad so i don't know
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>>499785365
that's literally nothing compared to what a whale has
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so, uh, is it true male characters can be shirtless with the new store 'fit? asking for a friend of course haha ...unless
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>Playing PvP in TnL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7B94ylv69A
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>>499785365
>About the stuns I think stun combos are just supposed to be broken by whoever is not stunned or you can use the trinket, it might be a skill issue but i'm bad so i don't know
Stuns are a big problem because they don't have DR, diminishing returns.
So in a game like WoW or most other games with CC, it plays out like this
>Get stunned
>Use trinket to escape stun
>Get stunned again
>The 2nd stun only lasts for a fraction of it's duration because you where recently stunned

Where in this game any follow up stuns after a trinket still last for their full duration.
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Ok so GS/dagger user stealths and walks towards you in arena, there's litearlly nothing you can do to detect him or get away from him.
He does his fully ranged jump into you, you are now silence and bind. What do you do? Do you spam "Q" hoping to evade his stun, use trinket to try and run away and hope he doesn't stun you or just wait for him to maybe stun you so you can trinket and then somehow still get prone even if you did trinket out of the stun?

To counter a GS user you have to play PERFECTLY, but then within 20 sec they can do their whole shtick again if you do manage to survive while you still have 1.5m CD on your trinket and can no longer do anything against them.

>Just stack melee evasion xD
Most gear don't have melee evasion you can trait or have.
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>>499788195
you can reach 1780~ melee evasion with gear
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>>499788890
I'm a ranged user and the gear I use doesn't have melee evasion at all.
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>>499787838
It's not just stuns, it's all CC and yeah it's retarded and they should add diminishing returns.
Brainlets just want all stuns reduced to nothing so weapons like GS become completely worthless since the whole kit operates around burst during stun windows and has 0 damage outside of that.
Evasion is also fucking retarded and I've never seen such brainlet design in any game ever
>can evade while stunned or sleeping
>can evade from behind
>evade CC skills
>evade EVASION REDUCTION EFFECTS LMAO
What kind of sub 80 IQ retards even designed this?
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>>499785365
is this your first MMORPG little baby?
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>>499789373
Just get more hit
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>>499787838
>>499788195
That's the thing, the counter is teamplay. I had a GS jump me in arena and I think my pala slept him or pushed him away (dont remember) but he interrupted his combo and we won the engagement. That's why I'm saying thinking about it in a 1v1 dynamic is wrong but I'm not really sure about all the factors going on
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>>499789820
retard
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>Turn off the game and go do some stuff for a couple hours
>Come back and launch the game (it's green on steam as if it's still on)
>Get this error
>The game is not in task manager anywhere
huh am I being crypto mined?
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fucking piece of shit gate of infinity the floating disks are lagging harder than the mad currynigger in this thread
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>>499790503
>game is shit
>metldowns
kek spics will never learn
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>>499790301
easy anti cheat running maybe?
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>>499790657
nah prime time europoor server performance
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>>499790193
Why? It's so easy to get lots of hit and it hard coutners evasion
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>>499791676
Not him but are you really defending a pants-on-head retarded mechanic?
That aside.
>muh hit
Is this why even gooks still stack evasion? Surely it's because it's a completely busted stat without any of its usual drawbacks.
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my server starts to die down once it hits 12 midnight...
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>>499791980
>without any of its usual drawback
You mean except being 100% countered by hit?
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Nice Halloween(?) event!
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>>499793727
Actually retarded or just being a contrarian?
Name ONE MMO/RPG where you can dodge while fucking stunned or under any other hard CC. Name one game where the skills that are meant to counter avoidance can't even be used because they're just being avoided in the first place.
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Euro bros please log in I wanna do dungeons..
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>able to read patch notes
>know to buy out all my weekly shit
Reading is my super power
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whats with this obsession with bricks?
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>enter random dungeon
>4 people quit instantly
NICE NEW SYSTEM GOOKS
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>>499794090
Just get more hit
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>>499794090
there's nothing wrong with evasion as a passive, plenty of games do that
you need more hit chance
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>can't dye the gear you get for free

fucked up
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>In celebration of Haunted Harvest, and the first appearance of the Arch Bosses Tevent and Queen Bellandir, we have increased the drop rates of Soul Fragments when the bosses periodically appear in the world.
>Tevent's Soul Fragments will drop at an increased rate from 10/25/2024 until 10/30/2024, and Queen Bellandir's Soul Fragment drop rate increase will occur from 10/31/2024 to 11/6/2024.
>The drop rates of Soul Fragments from killing the Arch Bosses at their normally scheduled times remains the same.
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>>499798602
When do they even spawn?
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>>499771467
but i'm a euronig though
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>>499799472
First spawn for Bellandir should be in about 20 hours, when the next milestone rolls over
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For endgame PvP, is it really only just large scale that requires you to join some loser ass guild? I fucking hate when MMOs force large scale. It's why I quit Aion and BDO. Shit sucks. I like world PVP and stuff like arenas or battlegrounds.
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>>499795365
>>499797575
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>>499800945
small scale pvp is even worse than large in this game
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>>499800564
Weren't you at 3700 yesterday?
>europoor
That's even worse since it's impossible to make lucent by playing there so you're a full blown whale on a shitty paycheck.
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why is translation so fucking dogshit
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>>499801227
nah i was 3607 yesterday, only getting CP from skill upgrades and masteries now
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>>499802108
Why are you bragging about doing p2w?
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>>499739904
>getting banned from a shit game
Nothing lost :pray:
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>>499800564
Join us on Kazar
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>they added daily login rewards
I FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT JESUS CHRIST

this was the only gook mmo which didn't feel like you're falling behind if you fail to log in every single day
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>>499802942
i'm in a comfy guild on Zenith
>>499802281
because i have a small dick, can't brag about that now can i
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>>499800564
based swiper
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>wipe
>swordwand decides to solo boss
>every other dungeon
>i still get my loot
heh, nutin personnel
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>>499803509
Comfy is another word for boring
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What is Korea's obsession with giving you limited character slots (2 here LOL) and having a COUNTDOWN to your character being deleted? FUCK.
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>>499793790
This is why Korean games are so god damn soulless. At least western and Japanese games try to be unique. Something clearly inspired by or has parallels to halloween, but they put a spin on it. Change the names, the decor, the details, but keep it as a broadly spooky festival about the harvest. Hallow's End, All Saint's Wake, and so on.
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>>499805135
For Korea, they are really into game dedication. If you play TnL, that's the fucking game you play until your dying breath. Same goes for Characters, it's not a thing in most actual asian gaming communites to have a bunch of alts unless your a filthy CN botter.

The market and how games are played and seen over there is WAY more hardcore and time invested than casual EUs and USAs fucking around until the next thing comes along.
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>>499803242
im still at work, but fuck this if its true. if its just logging in thats not too bad, but if its one of those fucking stupid stay logged in for 2 hours shit i will be pissed.
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>>499803509
Don't you want to play with /vg/ frens?
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>>499805586
>game dedication
yeah i dont think so, they release 10 mmos a year. clearly game loyalty is a foreign concept to them
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>>499805586
I was stationed in Korea for 2 years as U.S. Army. I had 2 KATUSA (ROK Soldiers that were educated enough and spoke English well enough to train with U.S. force) that were awesome. They said the majority of gaming in Korea is two games: League and FIFA. Anything else is not really talked about or taken seriously.
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>>499805829
It's a saturated Market, most KR gamers still play the one game that they want, it's not like there's a finite amount of people who want to find "their game".

>>499806097
Yeah, Esports is still EXTREMELY huge in KR
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>4 people looking for party for abyss quest for more than an hour
>make a party for abyss quest
>they immediately join
>done doing quest
>leaves party
>party suddenly fall apart
why are mmorpg players like this
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>>499806476
a friend of mine keeps talking about how MMOs aren't really social anymore after lfg was made. I think people want to do the gameplay but none of the Multiplayer if they can help it. Not sure how this came about, i think FFXIV can hold some of the blame for it(and I'm a fan of the game myself)
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>>499806867
ffxiv is one of the most social mmos still remaining, what are you even talking about? if anything, theyre the vanguard that is barely holding together what the meaning of social mmo is
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>>499807150
"Social"
The game that lets you do about 90% of main content solo or with bots?
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>>499805829
They need to release new MMO monthly because they can't stop fucking up every game
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>>499800564
Come to Kazar baby...
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>>499806867
Anything that removes tedium or clunkiness from a game will also remove reasons to socialize from that game. LFG, party finder, freely or cheaply teleporting anywhere from your map, guides on the internet, etc. Without all this you would have "weak bonds" with strangers in the MMO you're playing right from the get-go. These weak bonds would be your natural catalyst for interaction with others, so basically convenience kills socialization. Some fag whose name I can't remember made a video explaining this more eloquently, but when everything is convenient then other people in your multiplayer game naturally look to be just obstacles or tools.
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>>499807150
I play it and that is false.
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>>499808057
Not to sound like I'm pissed or anything, i'm not. But what then? Do all MMOs need to have shitty mechanics, unintuitive dungeon requirements, confusing buff systems, etc? The worse off you make a game to play, even with people who want to be social, how much tedium can you get away with before you start bleeding players?
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>>499807304
>>499808372
its struggling because mmos in general are, but to try and argue that its not still the most social mmo by comparison by a massive margin is factually wrong.
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>>499808975
>but to try and argue that its not still the most social mmo by comparison by a massive margin is factually wrong.
In what way? Nobody ever talks in public EVER. Even if you go to venues and "social" places nobody ever speaks. The world is totally dead and nobody is there and in the main cities nobody speaks.
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>muh social
play habbo hotel brother
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>>499809231
certain servers are where the more socially inclined congregate. this is nothing new and not unique to ffxiv. but their community is far better in that regard than any other. and the game design itself just really lends itself better to that type of player, where they exist.
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>>499805747
nah i prefer playing with strangers, too much autism going on here
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So does using matchmaking and leaving if it's not the one you want work?
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>>499811586
you get punished if you keep doing it, but yea.
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There is a significant lack of cute pics in the latest sexy halloween outfits. And the only one that did got wrongfully bullied >>499754798
. This NOT okay. We need to warmly accept and encourage MORE.
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>>499809759
Only a few of us there, we will start recruiting strangers soon.
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>>499812715
i cant decide between witch hat or top hat.
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how do you unlock type 2 costume
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>>499813654
go to your boutique, click on the gear, on the right side where you can change colors and dye, theres a section where you can buy different variations of the skin that you already bought. you pay 350 lucent. do you rike?
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>>499812715
Looking very cute friend!
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Is it really hard to filter these, instead of "assassin" getting filtered?
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we need more slutty costumes...
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why is every single death's abyss party full of complete retards
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>>499807150
Quite possibly the grandest cope across all the MMO scene. You are not saving the genre. XIV is a flagship for he death of meaningful interaction. You romp through a single player story, barely force yourselves to do bosses for a month and then settle into gooning in town for the next 10.5 months of a year. I'll go one step further. XIV dying tomorrow would be one of the best things to happen to the genre because the vast amount of troon & fujo money would scatter to the wind with no home and the industry would stop catering to your chatroom masquerading as engaging content.

Fuck off forever, the rise of XIV directly correlated with the slide of MMOs into the doldrums.
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>>499815773
Someone else should make a better MMO then and not endless korean slop that dies in a month
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>>499815773
the people vote with their wallets. im sorry your lidl mmo troon and liberal is a failure.
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>>499816267
Too late for that. Damage is already done. You've got stuff like Chrono Odyssey, ArcheAge Chronicles, Ashes of Creation and Star Citizen to look forward to. Riot MMO cancelled, Blizzard doing their usual shit. Grim.
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im so immersed in this medieval world with all these fucking pumpkins around thanks americans for ruining this shit with your god awful "holidays"
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>>499815773
UH OH did you just call out XIV for it's many flaws? You have shaken the hive of discord troons. Prepare for an onslaught of retarded replies as they attempt to defend their precious dress-up simulator.
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>>499816630
This update was on the Korean servers first. This isn't some exclusive pandering to the West.
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Trick or Treat from Pettanko on Kazar!
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>>499817028
YIKES
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>>499813348
right now i'm in a semi-hardcore top 20 guild, fits my work schedule, might shop around for something more serious once work eases off a bit
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>>499817028
>3 members
>all certified trans
the fact that you would even post such an embarrassing picture shows how deranged you are
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>>499817013
halloween is only a thing because of americans
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>>499817028
Those are all men
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>>499817712
i think they are deranged because they are willingly playing on a EU server
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>>499817028
whores
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>>499818159
rent free
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>>499818402
im saying this as someone who lives in EU. you are deranged if you want to play with toilet cleaners, muhammed and rajeet who cant speak english
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No free pets?
What did I mess up here?
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Where's the general matchmaking button? I'm blind
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>>499817028
>bimbo congregation
>all rook the same
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>>499821069
Where you select your role
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>>499821193
>>499818336
>>499818159
>>499817712
NA seething
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>away and can't play for 12 more hours
So which outfits are free and which ones are paid
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>>499822162
>>499818540
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>>499822162
I'm an europoor too, you're just cringe.
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>>499818540
>lives in europe
>rajeet, muhammed, toilet cleaners
we're all white what's wrong with you take it easy american larper
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>>499822268
>free
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
headgear with event coins
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>>499822863
alright sergey. tell your wifes boyfriend jamali to not be too rough on your wife next time while you clean the toilets
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>>499817028
euros fall asleep to sissy hypno every night
embarrassing on the low
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>>499822863
Literally every single group I get into
>portuguese monkeys on the same tier as brazilians
>subhuman polacks
>retarded germans
>turkroaches
Nobody fucking speaks english.
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>>499826618
I don't know what kind of groups you're getting into, here people are mostly speaking in english.
I don't understand why people are seething over other languages, if you speak to someone in english more often than not they'll reply in english.
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>>499822162
seething that you have 3 members?
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>>499826864
It's just mutts falseflagging for some reason
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tab target feels so weird for pvp, it really does not feel right at all
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>>499826864
>>499827352
lol
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>>499817028
cute girls
also, of course to unlock the slutty variation costs 350 extra lucent... those fucking greedy slants...
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>>499826618
>retarded germans
no need to say turkroach twice
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>>499829478
Targeting is extremely wonky in this game. Better than no target at all I guess but why can't they figure it out when wow did decades ago.
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>>499820854
those are the paycuck pets from the 100 dollar early access pack. so if you paid for that, now every regular joe gets it for free and you get nothing.
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the default armor in this game looks decent, yet i see so many paypiggy skins everywhere i go. damn... and this games population is dropping off so quickly. dont these guys realize its all gone to waste? when its eos in 1 year? i mean shit, they saw what happened to bless and elyon. i guess people will never learn. at least the bless people got refunds. the elyon people got cucked, they got no refunds.
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what went wrong?
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>>499834441
the game didn't die fast enough and now i can't get more free boss weapons
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What do you hate the most about the game?
>the fucking mobs who stun you nonstop and there's no way to remove or immunize against it because for some reason all anti cc shit only works in pvp
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>>499836256
have you tried learning about the fury mechanic
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>>499834441
>game doesn't cater to the lowest common denominator
Good.
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>>499836323
Bro I'm not talking about bosses but normal trash that just spams stuns nonstop so even if you parry one you'll get hit by another right away and many of those stuns are instant and/or ranged.
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>>499836448
It literally does though?
>swipe
>pick a meta build from the internet
>stack evasion
>get invited into a zerg guild
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>>499836448
But it does?
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>>499836498
that's wrong though
the only mobs I've ever fought with spam stuns are on dino island if you pull 10 of them
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>>4998367
>archers
Most have a ranged stun that's also on a very quick windup.
>wizards
Most have instant aoe stun you can't do anything about
>melee
Pretty much all of them some sort of cc and the moment you have a pack on you, you just get spammed.
Also all the random knockbacks that interrupt skills.
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>>499836928
Also all the roots that expose you to random skills. For example today I tried to duo the halloween dungeon with a friend so we don't need to deal with retards and we kept wiping to the 5-6 mandatory pack because of constant stuns.
Bosses are much less hassle in comparison.
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>>499837160
Doesn't help that there's ZERO diminishing returns in this game.
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>>499836672
>>499836675
Yeah ok keep seething here because you can't enjoy things you unemployable freaks. I bet your guild bullied you.
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>>499838575
>no arguments
From a mechanical and knowledge standpoint the game is entirely braindead compared to other MMOs out there.
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>>499836448
>>499838575
>Game doesn't cater to normies who whale
>But it doesn't either cater to no lifers
Make up your fucking mind, schizo
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>>499726242
>>499726850
not true. NOT! true!
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what's the best dynamic event to choose for your guild that they will actually want to do?
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>>499840826
>that they will actually want to do?
tell those lazy cunts that it's a guild contract, for the fucking guild to get levels. this is why tryhard guilds take note of attendance and contribution and doesn't hand out loot willy nilly to anyone
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>>499840826
No such thing
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>>499812715
i can handle some bullying
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>>499834441
the game is as shit as everyone thought it was
this is a mobile game hastily turned into a pc mmo
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>>499841561
WRONG, this is the BEST game EVER and I'm having a BLAST saar, do NOT redeem your guild boss loot by the way THAT belongs to the bloody GUILD LEADER and ADVISORS
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>>499841071
Join Pettan and I'll bully you
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>>499841071
>nigger
no thanks
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>>499841071
does she have a bf?
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>>499844134
That's a man which means he will never be a woman.
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>server time reset got changed
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fuck EU
- amazon
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>>499845119
why the fuck isn't dst nuked globally already? most retarded shit that's only there to annoy you
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What's the difference between "co-op" and "peace" during events?
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>>499834441
It's better than Bless, Elyon, and Lost Ark. Seethe more arktranny.
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>>499845621
>Co op
Everyone gets the same prize based on the result(everyones performance).
>Peace
competitive among players without pvp. You get the prize based on your performance.
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>>499845621
co-op requires teamwork to proceed into the next quest objective
peace is a non-pvp event
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>>499845119
>Can't show time properly
Is the level we're at now
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i regret not buying the 60 dollar pack it's still the only decent outfit in the game
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>>499847079
that was the barbaric outfit though
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>events are still bugged and give no rewards if you complete them
IT'S BEEN WEEKS
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>>499847815
>still no greyclaw forest event after like 2 weeks or more
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cant spell s(tupid) n(igger)s without sns
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>>499849820
*pushes you off a cliff*
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so have we seen what the battlepass outfit is gonna look like?
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I had a dream that im gettin queen staff tomorrrow
how much should i sell it for?
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why the fuck are they putting outfits on a timer
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>want to leech my contracts in syleus 6f room that is always full
>it's fucking empty
is this game really dead?
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why are the hackers always crossbowniggers?
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I did it boys.
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>>499853568
anon open world dungeons are rarely actually busy now that they're not new, people tend to just let their tokens and contracts stack up then burn it all at once
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Why does the abyss selection chest cost so much more than the rest?
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>>499856719
it contains the armor pieces which are part of set bonuses
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>>499855024
that room is always busy and it got busy again a few mins after i wrote this, obviously i'm being funny since it's 5 am
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arena is filled with the most retarded skill-based game dropouts ever
it's actually funny
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today was a good day.
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>>499786321
Yeah i saw some guy with tattoos shirtless but he was skinny so he looked retarded
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>>499800771
Yeah but they can also just appear in the world roaming around that's the juicy opportunity
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>>499857001
That's mega aids.
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Fountain of Life should make Enemies/Allies Wet while they're in the area.
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I want to start this game as greatsword/wand since vengeful paladins are my jam, and they seem to be self-sufficient in PvE, but how do they fare in large scale PvP? There's like next to no information on this combination but I'm sure one of you have picked it up long term.
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>>499861976
Would love that shit for my spin2win.
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>>499861976
I'll make YOU wet when you're in the area, lil' sissy bitch.
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>>499859437
must be nice
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I want a reverse bunny suit costume...
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>>499864287
>I eat cock and cum and cum from cock
Ok cool but we didn't need to know this information.
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>>499847079
huh which one is that? the purple glowy shit? nah thats hella lame
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how the fuck do you do nightmare conductor? i don't understand this boss at all as he just chugs seemingly unavoidable shit at you and during the last stage the platforms kick you off
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i really wish everything wasn't tradeable

i feel like i'm screwing myself in the future whenever i use gear for myself instead of selling it for lucent
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what is this retarded alpha stage game shit?
if i put my cursor on random tree leaf in the way the ability will be cast backwards
is this a beta?
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>>499865271
gookreans haven't figured out snapping to ground geometry yet
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>>499865271
>>499865457
>not putting foliage on another collision layer and excluding it from the mouse ray trace
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Idk why but this interaction made me laugh a lot.
Here we see the duality of man fully expressed, the rational and the instinctual converging into a singularity. Mankind itself can be fully explained by this simple interaction
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>>499865050
I noticed how those bosses basically take no damage from skills and attacks that hit many times for little damage like crossbow stuff.
Stuff that normally hits for 100-200 a hit for me such as basically all crossbow skills and normal attack, deal double or even single digit damage to those bosses.
Meanwhile one hit skill hits do normal damage and you can see bow users just nuking them in seconds while I'm unable to do any damage at all

Is this some kind of bug?
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>>499865271
It is incredibly stupid, yeah. There's no reason why dashes shouldn't just go in the direction of your cursor.
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>>499867648
i want them to let me bind shift+ and +wasd so it doesnt morph me or simply move me. its not fucking rocket science, i dont know why they cant figure something as fucking basic as that out. its so fucking shit.
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>loads of great looking armor sets
>my best one is the ugliest
Why the fuck does this game not have a transmog option other than the cash shop outfits? Why are armored women enjoyers punished like this?
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can i buy the halloween costume now and unlock the style later after the event?
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>>499870197
They'd make a bank if they sold one-time transmog tickets in the fucking cash shop.
All the work done by the armor designers is just wasted.
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staff/dagger or bow/dagger for small scale/skirmishes?
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>>499870863
Daggers are for metaniggers.
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>finally home after 5 days
we're so fucking back bros
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i bought the skin, but i didnt realize it cost even more lucent to unlock the sexy short shorts.... no...
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bwos im trying to find a party for syleus abyss, but theres nobody in the dungeon and people are ignoring in pf... its over
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>>499807150
the game has exactly zero social features, which is INSANE because it's a carbon copy of the original PSO2 which has so many I don't think any one player is able to deftly use all of them
just the chat features in old PSO2 by themselves shit on everything FFXIV ever had, and this is coming from a triple legend, 6+ year, private mansion holding player
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>>499871041
Welcome back!
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>>499874669
ty cutie
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my small break from the game has helped revitalize my love for the game
still, fuck daily log ins. i wont fall for that, scamazon
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anyone else hoarding these and never use them?
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>>499876142
at least you dont need to stay logged on for 2 hours, and the game loads instantlyl
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I notice only EU frens keep this general alive. I think this game might be dead in NA...
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this is your arena enemy for tonight. how much do you think he has paypigged?
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>>499877464
What are you saving them for?
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uhhh, gooks? aiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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switched off to gs/staff. its fun though. need to practice the combo more

https://streamable.com/jv867w
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>>499878897
i feel like i'll use them way too quickly if i just equip them whenever (open world dungeons etc), then when i do need them i wont have them
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>>499873430
whore
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>>499879283
cute. is this the power of p2w and guild leader abuse?
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>>499882231
thats the power of me holding 4k dungeon points until the patch landed and spamming random dungeons until i dropped enough salvation coins to buy the staff. not sure what else you mean.
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how the FUCK do I grind lucent. help a retard out bros.
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>>499883559
whore our yourself out
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>>499883559
swipe like everybody else.
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>>499883659
if I had the body for it this would be a valid option. unfortunately no
>>499883669
no. how do I do it without giving money to a kmmo dev
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>>499883838
you dont. see >>499878168
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>open 26 pouches
>one purple with a 100 lucent trait
guess i have to swipe
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>add randomized matchmaking to help fill queues
>people just spam deny the dungeons they don't need, using party matchmaking now takes 25+ queue pops
yeah this is a good system I think
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>server crashed
nice game retards
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>>499888539
>lets add random matchmaking for random dungeons
>but ignore the fact people still need specific dungeons for the tokens
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annoying halloween dungeon. I might skip this event
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>craft karnix bow
>health regen trait
i don't want to play anymore
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>>499905157
just change the trait bro
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>>499883559
just get lucky like >>499859437
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>>499905157
garbage trait lets you stack blessing on your karnix for cheap
fail blues until you can get good trait maxed and convert it
with this + transfer you can get all 3 done for cheap excluding convertstones but karnix is worth it
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>>499911285
>garbage trait lets you stack blessing on your karnix for cheap
i still need to buy all 3 expensive karnix extracts though
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>people try to make fun of me for swiping
>haven't spend a single cent
this almost feels as good as hackusations
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>>499883559
Alt
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>>499883559
You get a job and buy it or else you might as well become OSRS gold bot
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>Junobote in 1 minute
>Sanctum of Desire isn't open yet
why did they even made a mechanics like this
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should i do the archeboss as tank or dd?
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why can't i see who the guild loot dropped to if i'm in a party?
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you should be able to? unless only adv+ can see im not actually sure
but if ur able to view the item in the guild chest then select it and it should say who dropped it
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>>499912553
>be lucky/make alt instead
>or both
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>>499917398
i'm the leader and the loot is in the individual setting
it just doesn't show in the chat like it's supposed to i imagine because the game is still in beta
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>>499916290
So the tryhard guild leaves a player inside the dungeon 3 hours prior and then mass summons his guild. Previously cleaning up the place from other guilds before it closes of course. I'm part of that but now the guild got too competitive, making us go to conflict bosses exclusively and making all loot go to the guild, which imo it never works out because most shit goes to a clique or the loudest people. Having riftstone/boonstone and plenty of guild coins is good but not worth having to listen to the alliance leader kid call us retards. Thanks for reading my blog
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i think i am over this game take care tnlg
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>>499918014
the only thing you really care about as an individual player when it comes to boonstone is jut the buff i guess?
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>>499919846
take care stay black
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>>499919936
And the bosses, it's a shit ton of loot overall if you are in a big guild. I see juno gs being sold for 300 lucent.
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>>499921104
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>got cursed wasteland in random queues
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>>499921806
I don't get it, it's so easy
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>>499921715
>2.7k for harvest legs
>320 for fucking Juno sword
FUCK I WISH THAT WAS ME.
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how many cucks are in pettanko?
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>>499921926
Melee retards can't stop sniffing the boss's ass and gets rest of the team killed repeatedly
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>>499922339
More like the tank has no concept of staying close and building threat.
My groups don't even die to the mechanic but the cone aoe spam because the tank is sniffing his own farts somewhere in africa.
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>find out about this game
>start playing
>have some decent fun finally
>go to 4ch to talk about it with the boys
>I missed the honeymoon period and the general is already dead
well... this is unfortunate. why can't this place be cozy but active like xivg?
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>>499923856
>xivg
lol nice try
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Where is the real Europoor Guild?
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>>499924015
We're fishing right now on Kazar.
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>>499923856
go back to trooning out in your discord, troon
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>>499924183
Kazar Guild has like 5 Members, LOL.
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good luck on Bellandir bois
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>>499924354
dont care, kazar guild gm is the cutest. thats all that matters
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>>499924420
dont forget to buy antidote
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>>499924354
Uh, 9 thank you very much.
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anyone have any good anime recs
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>>499925462
Cells at Work!
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>>499925462
Incha Couple ga You Gal-tachi to Sex Training Suru Hanashi
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>>499924354
Why does this make you so mad, mutt?
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>>499924928
cute cozy guild
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Can I finally fish now?
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>>499924646
good call, thanks
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>>499923856
>xivg
>cozy

Yeah, no.
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>>499923856
>xivg
>the most schizo general on this board
>cozy
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if i had to choose between being dead or active like xivg, i choose xivg
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>kill bellandir
>no soul fragment
???
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>>499921104
what does boonstones have to do with the bosses?
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>>499926678
Cute guild!
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>few thousand euros for bellandir weapons
lets go rich goyim
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>>499930706
Yeah isn't it supposed to be guaranteed?
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>>499931350
Surely no one will buy them right?
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>>499931350
50k is a steal
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>>499932594
they go for 80k in korea
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>>499931350
>Gets replaced in two months
Heh heh nothing personnel goyim just give us more shekels
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>>499932963
No fucking way, is the boss one a week or what?
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>>499933103
archboss weapons are +12-able so they're still relevant even in the expansion
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>>499933136
once a week and it alternates between conflict and peace
>>499933103
you don't replace archboss weapons (yet)
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>>499930949
Were you all intentionally trying to look as trans as possible?
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>>499933258
do archboss weapons lvl to 12?
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>>499933103
retard
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>>499933321
Why is that the first thing you think of man, we're just trying to have fun, don't be mean.
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>>499931350
how come there are 30 of them for sale in my server, didn't the boss just came out meaning only 2 dropped?
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>>499934827
retard
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>>499934827
ah is over all servers
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Reminder to never pick any mystic portals in the sandworm lair because you won't be able to find the big one if it spawns.
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>>499935272
Sandworm is easy to find, now good luck finding the one in Akidu Valley if you don't know where it is already.
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>>499935731
No it isn't it's total hell, they're neither down inside or on the top. Fucking waste of time.
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>>499935196
auction house is region wide, for the 100th time
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>>499930949
Cute pic sis! I bought the skin but I need to save up 350 more lucent for the short version. I'll post it when I get it.
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>>499937046
Good job, looking forward to it!
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Imagine being so lucky that you get an item worth 2000-3000 dollars, I could never
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>>499941415
would you keep it to use yourself? Or sell it for lucent to buy outfits
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I think i'm done with this game. Too much mobile gacha slop systems targeted for zoomers. Can't handle it anymore
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>>499942174
>buy outfits
There are like a couple worth shit and they're not even available anymore.
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>>499941415
Everyone else is stuck grinding for 1 buck per hour rates
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>>499942174
Personally I would sell while they are overpriced (even if korea is 80k like an anon said). Can probably max a decent set with that
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>>499942347
It's more like 24h for 1.30$ for us europoors.
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>log in
>done all my daily stuff
>literally nothing I can do
>log out
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>>499942785
this is a healthy video game cycle yes, you're not supposed to sit on your ass for 18 hours playing games
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Max out traits for purples now or just wait until we get t2 gear?
The moment we get t2 gear the old gear will be obsolete, so is there actually any point in investing in stuff right now?
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>>499944606
Uuh, blessing?
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>>499944606
if you aren't blessmaxed before tier 2 you're bricked

you're also bricked if you don't have hundreds of items and precious marind to feed into transmuting
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>shroud and Kanon already stopped playing the game
LMAO
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neat, there's fireworks over Kastleton at night, can see it all the way from the mountain
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>>499946886
Ashes of Scam hype wont last long
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>>499947214
niggerslut go away
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>>499947214
Be a good slave and join Pettan
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>25 unlock stones per week from the event
>you need a minimum of 50,100 for weapons
Why are they so stingy with shit that should be basic. This trait starvation just favors whales while making normal players not want to upgrade from blues.
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>>499942785
>log in
>send my amotois out
>abyss and dungeons coins are maxed
>dont care
>log out
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>>499948016
thats the whole point sweety
bluepoors are whale food
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>>499948016
>why do they try to get people to spend money to speed their progress in an otherwise free game

idk man it's a mystery
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>>499948016
The only thing you need unlockstones for are world/archboss items. Most people would consider themselves lucky to even have 1 of those I think.
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>>499948225
Retarded or baiting? Even common gear traits are unaffordable on EU for example since you make no lucent.
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>>499947214
Are you not maxed out in gear now? What do you even do in-game anymore?
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>>499948369
>can't make lucent because nothing is worth anything
>can't afford anything even though it's not worth anything

make up your mind
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>>499948369
>you make no lucent
>but common traits are unaffordable
These can't both be true anon...
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>>499946886
>>499947307
T&L is dogshit
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>>499948461
>>499948475
I'm not lucky, all I get are shit traits that don't sell.
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>>499948427
farm lucent and kick shitters out of my party
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>>499948571
>p2w to max out trait
>uses this to farm lucent
huh?
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>>499947214
Come home.
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>>499948543
Turn any good items with shit traits you get into lithographs and recraft them, can either sell a good trait you get or if you get lucky sell the great success.
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>>499948016
>waah how come I can't finish all the traits on my end game gear in a single week without paying?!
>too braindead to understand how to get a ton of unlockstones each week
expected nothing less from a braindead europoor
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>>499948776
>a ton of stones
Liar.
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>>499948427
PVP, levelling my skills and masteries, got plans of off-speccing eventually, still don't have arch boss weapons, helping my guild grow etc.

i'm just really enjoying the game man
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>>499948859
36 every week from pouches (40 every other week)
25 every week per event
30 every week from weeklies

whats wrong pablo
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>>499949049
Don't forget that you can turn your dungeon shard to unlock stones as well. Once you have all the gear you need from dungeons you should use them for this
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>>499949049
60 unlock stones every 10 days just from daily dungeons if you do 5 runs of each dungeon, not bad tbqh
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>>499949049
It's 25 from the weekly, the event is temporary and pouches are random. Even if your numbers were correct it's still nothing.
Try harder next time.
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>>499949241
its 30 from the weekly you dumb nigger
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>>499949241
retard
post your gearscore so we can laugh at you even harder
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>>499949241
>and pouches are random
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>>499949298
Lie more, will you?
>>499949404
I was talking about the abyss pouches. Who the fuck is blowing dungeon tokens on stones at this point when everybody needs gear?
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>>499949527
now post your incomplete board you fucking retard
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>>499949527
>Who the fuck is blowing dungeon tokens on stones at this point when everybody needs gear?
everyone who already has their weapons
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>>499949527
>posts an incomplete reward
must be a pettanko member
>when everybody needs gear
LOL
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>>499949527
i had to pity both my weapons, still got everything i need from dungeons by now, maybe you're just a casual
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>>499949559
The fuck are you even on about?
>>499949581
>and armor
>and accessories
>any day now
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>>499949774
post the full weekly board pablo
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>>499949698
Why is NA obsessed about EU?
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>>499948016
Reason #342536 why korean games die so quickly
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>>499950206
cause eurobabs are retards?
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STOP bullying our cute posters.
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>EU primetime hours
>thread retardation and trannyposting skyrockets
makes you think
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>>499952787
All troons are american.
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>>499952787
Take your meds retard
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>>499952787
theres literally 2 EU players
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Are there any map/texture edits for this game? I'm sick of dying on Skaikal to the stun lines that come back up.
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>>499953694
press ctrl+right click and you can place personal markers, put one on each line as a guide to yourself, or more
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>>499954756
Holy shit thank you niggeranon I thought this only works on the world map.
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>>499954880
you're welcome friendo
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>>499946886
it's crazy how dogshit ashes looks after what 15 years in development

definitely NOT a scam
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>>499956087
The combat and targeting are much smoother than here though.
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>>499956181
>server crashes with 25 people on the screen
yeah its way better!11
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>>499956087
i know they switched to UE5 or whatever, but somehow it still looks/feels a bit dated, the systems better be damn good
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>>499956087
The game looks so fucking generic, granted that TnL suffers from the same problem.
There's no unique style, no identity and nothing that makes it really stand out.

Like most Korean MMORPG's and Ashes they just make super generic medieval fantasy world with the most generic weapons and magic. Most don't even have any playable races other than humans.
This is why Tera was so wonderful, it was unique, stood out, had an identity and even if I don't like WoW myself that games also have all of this.
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ashes looks like some single dev unity RPG game after 2 years in development
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>>499957159
Tera was ruined by the loli brainrot though.
>have cool races
>all the remaining players are brainrotted coomers running around on their lolis in underwear
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>>499957159
I bet you fapped to ellin
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i miss wildstar
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i miss rift
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>>499956898
>UE after 3
Yeah it's dead. After 4 and beyond it has been a fucking mess.
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i still enjoy the game
more, even, than when i first started
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these normies in Vidya are really starting to make me want to leave
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>>499957159
>This was why tera was so wonderful
so basically you're a pedophile, we get it, you like loli and lalafell just aren't hitting the same as elin
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>>499959889
some 4chan transers were way worse
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>>499959889
if you mean the obvious beaner yes he's an annoying retard, but not surprising when you realize maru is just as retarded and ESL so ofc he let him in.
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vidya guild raid in 15 min
be there or miss out as usual
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>list a bunch of trash blues for 10-20 lucent
>30/30 listings of this
>come back today
>it all sold
what the fuck whos buying this shit??
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>>499962979
people making fodder for transfers
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>>499957367
they singlehandedly funded the game so it could survive the 12 years it did. you dont even realize it, youre so retarded
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>>499963870
Except nobody except them played that shitheap anymore.
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>>499962979
People failstacking non-bis purples before transferring them to their BIS.
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i just spent the last hour teaching some random person how to get to the top of the mountain
it was fun
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>>499935196
ah yea my bad, thanks
>>499935051
KYS
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Bow/Wand is the most miserable build in the game and if Flash Wave didn't exist nobody would play it.
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>>499966275
>two cheap bimbo sluts
What is the cause for this disorder?
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>>499966275
whore
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Get this hueNIGGER OUT of my FUcking guild
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Please... Maru... Kick the normies....
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its fine bwos we need people
we've unironically never had this many people online
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Please my queen Maru. Kill all the normiefags.
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>>499967112
>>499967348
>>499968052
>>499968381
not even in the guild but spams
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>>499968052
they all just fuck off outside of raid day however
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>>499968498
I'm only one of these posts thougheverbeit
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lotsa gamers
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>>499968690
dont understand what you want? nobody on 4chan plays this game
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>>499968948
NOOOO THE GAME IS DEAD
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>>499969094
I don't give a fuck about letting the normalfags in those posts aren't me I just don't want to read the shit from the esl retard that barely knows english in guild chat
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>>499970023
hes getting kicked when nobody is online
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>>499966275
Cute friend.
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well that was fucking unplayable
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why is this kitsani nigga so mad
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dont talk about my former wife like that
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>>499972641
He's a paypig. Don't insult his game.
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>>499972641
kys Wenie
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I would call this guy a retard too but dogpiling is cringe
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>>499972901
Wenie might be a retard but he's not wrong regarding this game.
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>>499972641
>t. Weenie
>>499973042
Nothing to do with being right or wrong. No one wants to be around someone that complains about literally every fucking thing they go through. Not to mention they ask questions to things that you'd figure out if they just stopped to breathe and rub their two brain cells together. We all know we're not playing a perfect game, that doesn't mean we want to hear someone constantly yapping about it while we're just trying to relax and enjoy a game. Like nigger if you hate the game so much just quit, why are you constantly seeking validation by yapping to people who don't give a fuck what you have to say?
>>
Just boot the retard
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not surprised btw about wenie, someone already warned me about them because they were apparently also some incredibly huge faggot in wow and got kicked for it. really makes you think
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>want to grind for the item i need
>i can't because there's nothing i can do in the game
yea im thinking this semen slurping genre isnt for me
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wenie on track to get kicked from a second vg guild
some people are just inherently insufferable, no way around it
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>>499973762
What did he do in the other one?
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>>499973369
seethe
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>>499973862
*kicks you*
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>>499972901
Complaining about shit to people who can't change anything is fucking retarded go cry to amazon and NCsoft instead What are you trying to convince me of? The game is shit? Okay I agree. What now? I'm just playing this shit till I get bored
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>>499973946
wont change the fact that you're malding kek
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>EU
>cute sluts doing cute slut things
>NA
>malding dramawhores
really makes your noggin joggin
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>>499975507
>malding dramawhores
Quite an unusual choice of words when you could simply say "troons".
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>>499975641
sneethe
cant be helped games char maker and expressions are fucking garbage this is the same company that made bns and aion btw
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>>499975802
bns was kino however
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>>499975802
Aion was populated by ungodly, deformed abominations and hellish dwarves with progeria because the sliders had no sensible limiters.
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>mexican deported
holy based
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>>499974280
>be W*nie, an insufferable faggot
>literally no one likes you
>everyone tells you that you're a retard
>get kicked from one of the most casual guilds ever
>a literal ESL BR that spams in broken english survived longer than you
>haha SEETHE!! y-you're malding kek!! I freaking owned them!
lole. lmao
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fucking kys trannysani, kicking me just because I don't agree with your brainwashed gookslurping opinion is pathetic.
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>>499977586
uh oh wenie melty
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why are vidya like this? what happened now?
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nothing really dramafrog. keep playing
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>>499977842
jews
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>bringing guild drama to /vg/
this is why you don't join 4chan guilds gentlemen
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>>499978242
not like theres anybody but 3 people still playing this game from here
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>festival of fire finally starts
>first time I see this shit in weeks
>go there
>the whole server shits itself
>nobody can move and gets rubberbanded back if they try to
>can't do the event
>enchanted orcs don't even spawn apparently
>STILL no greyclaw forest event happening at all
My server is a total shithole.
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>>499978690
whore
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QRD on Wenie? I heard he plays WoW
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i was gonna say something but then realized it would just excite the dramawhores
therefore i will not sorry
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>>499980174
Potent homosexual with an urgent lust for cock and cum.
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>>499980174
His name is Wenie, so he probably has a tiny Penie
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>>499980174
Fag from wow, complains about everything, needs to take the cock out of his ass, and put it into his mouth so he has something to occupy himself with
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>>499980174
GAY HOMO THAT DESEREVES THE ROPE GLAD HE GOT KICKED
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what's happening to the guild
>>
nothing. are we that bored currently?
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>>499977842
i got kicked by some tranny because i complained about the loot disparity in the game. and now even bigger trannies are trying to pretend to be me in the thread.i pray that these people are the same losers that know me from WoW too. hammer or whatever that faggots name is literally the dumbest braindead nigger i've ever met and i'm sure he cried to the officers about me because i left his 10 person guild that died on twow. 4chan people are literally the most schizophrenic troons i've ever experienced on the internet and idk why i fell for it again. nobody even showed up for their war shit either, 3rd worlders have better coordination/are better than these niggers.
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>>499981529
>hammer or whatever that faggots name is literally the dumbest braindead nigger i've ever met and i'm sure he cried to the officers about me because i left his 10 person guild that died on twow
that guy hasn't been online for a week, why do you let him live in your head rent free?
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>>499981529
we all know yarrick from wpsg
you're a no name loser that literally everybody who has ever interacted with you, can't stand
just kys desu my man
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how valuable is skill damage boost? i can get maxed buff duration and health for this purple (i have both already) but i can't afford skill damage boost. should I replace the blue?
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>37 abyss pouch
>2 purples
>not even 100 lucent trait
I fucking hate this game
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>>499982615
>we all know
nigga every single time i've interacted with you pserver people your guilds never do anything. this is no different. collectively hang yourselves
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is that new cord guy the esl
i can instantly see why he was kicked
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>run out of dungeon coins
>run out of abyss tokens
>done my dailies
it so fucking over
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>>499982967
every 10 sdb = +1% damage
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>>499983960
yes
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>>499985121
>no gold
>no dungeon coins to get more
>no abyss tokens
>no abyss contracts
>no daily contracts
>have materials for upgrades/traits but still no gold to spend it on
truly this is another kind of hell
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>>499986665
make an alt
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>still no boots from shadowed crypt
I'M SICK OF THIS PLACE
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>maru quitting
it's truly over bros
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>>499988150
this game isn't made for broke niggas and he's a jobless pajeet
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over
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>>499976590
What's with this
Where do people hear about these more unique events?
I've just seen there's world bosses now that drop a bow, I thought for awhile there was none
Are they now in rotation or are they just so u common it only happens once a month?
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>>499988150
did you see the retard crying in world chat? its so embarrassing. he can barely speak proper english while raging about nothing
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>>499990217
no i ignore world chat tbqh
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is there a way to sort inventory by time acquired so I don't keep forgetting what I got 10 minutes ago?
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I'm gonna make an alt. which requires the least investment? wand + bow?
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>>499991047
wand benefits a lot from crit and heavy, so you can ignore hit for trait and replace with an alternative you like
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>>499991047
anything works
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>>499991047

I made a GS/SNS alt, I just have it only wiith blue shit up to 2400 for free, and this bad boy has already made me a ton of lucent by using trait unlock stones and ink. Best thing is that nobody cares about what the tank is doing as long as you're alive, easiest and most braindead gameplay ever, nobody will ever kick you from a party unless you are an absolute drooling retard griefing runs.
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>>499991047
Try staff wand. You can queue as healer or dps and great for mobbing
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>made an alt
>fell asleep after reaching the first town
guess I'm going back to my main
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Bought a cheap litho hoping to use it as an upgrade, didn't roll the best trait though, but it came out as a Great Success, so now I can flip it for 4x what I bought it for which is nice.
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i literally do not give a flying FUCK about your stupid garbage ass events where you just grind mobs while you "pvp" (get ganked in 2 seconds while you do nothing about it). let me do my contracts and quests in peace you stupid gooknigger devs.
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>be a healer in a chill top 15 guild
>whore myself out and stand around open world pvp bosses
>get hit on by recruiters 24/7
I am OBSESSED
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>finally catch the wolf and moon event for the first time
>rank 13
>need 1-10 for the wolf morph
It's over.
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>>499995441
Just curious, what did they offer? anything tangible?
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>>499995859
Yes loot priority
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>>499995695
fuck, is this how you get the morphs? i will fucking NEVER get any of them then. why even live? its so fucking over. i never get above rank 100. jeebus fuck my life
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>>499996063
I got the akidu valley one somehow because I was alone there but this shit is full of whales spamming aoes.
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>>499978738
>>499979125
look at what you did
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Bros I finally hit 3k as a F2P europoor...
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Sanctum of Desire sucks COCK.
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>>499997663
I'm not sorry
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Every single one of my mm groups have been pumping dps and first phasing bosses today
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>decide to craft helm
>buy lithograph
>great success
>buy lithograph
>great success
>buy lithograph
>great success
>leave with my helm and 2.5k extra lucent
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>join an open dungeon party
>AFK stand in the middle of the arena
>return to the game after an hour
>all quests done
>gets shitton of purple
this is easier than I thought
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>mmo doesnt have dance emote
nigga is you serious? you call this a game without something so fundamentally basic?
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>>500003337
show me your sillymog redditfag
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>>500003707
what do you even gain from botting random mobs in the open world?
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>>500005517
Don't act innocent maru, I already know what you do at night.
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>>500006027
creep
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>>500005517
the guy in that webm was probably botting to solo the guild contracts and cement his guild as #1 for the upcoming castle sieges in a couple of days
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>>500006307
>even top 1 guild has to bot the guild contracts
So game is dead confirmed?
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>>500006842
If that's what you take from that then sure
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>>500006947
Why else would you need to bot guild contracts unless none of your guild mates play the game?
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>>500007080
They solo the contracts to funnel all of the contribution points to a single person so they can hit rank 1 in the activity rankings and unlock the transcendence skill
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Any EU Guild without brainlets?
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>no enchanted fire orcs anywhere
>whole server fails to kill the orc boss
man
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>>500009147
>NO REWARD AT ALL AFTER WASTING 20 MNUNUTES
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Any water that isn't wet?
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i got my alt to 50 but i honestly dont know if i have it in me to play a second char
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>>500010298
3x random dungeon runs a day and 1x contracts per week, easy friend
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Game isn't for me. Too much slop.
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>>500010579
i-i-its going to get better, p-p-please dont leave me
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>>500010579
name an mmo that's better and not dead
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>>500010768
maplestory
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>>500011318
only if you want to find a mentally unstable 28+ year old asian girlfriend that has no job or future
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>>500011603
Fuck I guess I'm playing Maplestory then
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>>500011603
Tell us more about her.
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EU Mega Guild when?
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>>500013228
mega guild with what players
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>>500011603
asian gf? i will now play maplestory
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>10 random dungeons with no salvation
>2 purple weapons with health regen
goyslop
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no one is buying my purple traits I just want to buy the slutty costume...
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>>500014132
retard
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Am I the only one who thinks the Grin Reaper costume looks better than the other one?
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>>500013556
a-a-add normies
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who is this rude fucker calling everyone a retard and whore? stop it
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>>499726019
>NA East, Lottie; <vidya> (trans friendly)
Thank God I left.
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is there no buy history to hide how much lucent you're buying and spending?
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>can't disable the change action mode nor charing its hotkey
why is this a thing
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>>500017017
what
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bwos?
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>>500018384
nvm found it I'm retarded
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When are they going to fix this random matchmaking so that they can't spam cancel it by hiding the dungeon until you're in, and if you leave the dungeon you get a 1 hour lockout?
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This random matchmaking is trash, it has totally destroyed dungeon queues. Every single dungeon that starts immediately falls apart. This is so aids.
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>>500020304
not having any problems with new mm just werks
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how the fuck do regular guilds do these conflict world every time I go near the boss arena I immediately die
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>>500021847
be in a top 3 zerg guild
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>>500021847
I think they also increased the radius of the conflict zone making it more difficult
Even for rat pvp
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>>500022061
they have to cater to the whales and zergs that will keep playing this dead game while the average player was smart enough to quit early.
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what am I even suppose to do with this
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>>500011603
Okay I'm switching right now
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If you are not doing random mm dungeons then you are bricking you'reself
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farmed enough abyss currency to get a chest and got this do I reroll for health trait or unlock it instead?
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>>500028636
you should only ever reroll when you have 3 traits unlocked
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>>500029936
so I'll just use unlockstone to get life instead?
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>>500029936
No? There's a higher chance to get a good trait if you just reroll when you got 1 bad trait. If you reroll when you have 2 good and 1 bad trait there's far less chance to get the remaining good trait.
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I'm abusing the random matchmaking until I get what I need, if I get banned it's okay I will just be free from this slop
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>>500034397
why the fuck would you ever get banned for that?
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>>500034436
Not the intended use obviously, you are supposed to accept any dungeon that pops that's why they add the drop incentive. I just cancelled 10 matching in a row, the devs are just dumb as fuck for adding this.
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>>500034745
It's retarded that it shows you, you're absolutely right but that's hardly bannable.
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>>500034745
telling you since release that these devs never played an MMORPG in their entire life.
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>>500034397
abuse early abuse often
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>>500035393
I will
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>>500037662
wait. how does that work?
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>>500038742
You use the new random matchmaking which gives an extra chest, the shard is guaranteed and probably 10% chance to drop a salvation essence
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>>500038985
but how do you exploit it?
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>>500038985
7%

>>500039059
you just cancel if it pops a dungeon you dont want to do
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>>500039059
Oh nothing crazy I just queue there and accept only for the dungeons I need like death's abyss
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>>500039208
>>500039214
ah I see. I should have been doing this
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>>500010298
doing contracts 2x is brutal, i can't really do it
doing dungeon 2x is ok
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did maru quit
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Everything about group content in this game feels like a Unity dev made it in 20 minutes. Just targeting people and attempting to heal or buff them is so bad.
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>>500047102
lmfao
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>>500047102
who
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>>500048286
>>500003707
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do you still get box if you q without dimensional contract?
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>events are still bugged and can't be done
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>>500049646
no
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you're going to run this shit 3 times a day for one month and you're going to be happy
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I fucked off to a different server. thank you vidya bwos, it's been real
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>>500058126
wtf bwo...
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>>500058126
who?
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guys whats the next mmo that looks somewhat decent
its kind of hard to track all the upcoming ones or whatever
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>>500060463
Vindictus Defying Fate but that's not really a MMO
That new Archeage that is definitely flopping and shutting down like the original
Ashes of Creation lmao
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>>500060463
Chrono Odyssey
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>>500062897
>Kakao
mmm nyo
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>>500060463
quantum knights looked cool, but it got cancelled...
https://youtu.be/qkKjxzjKTBM
https://youtu.be/mlfaOgojnCU

there was a small beta, i remember playing it. now the only next mmo i'm looking forward is Chrono and Archage
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chrono looks cool, ill keep tabs on that
thanks crew
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>>500068203
just letting you know that kakao games publisher makes ncsoft look reasonable sometimes. they monetized the absolute shit out of elyon so that it lasted 2 months. they monetized the shit out of everything else super hard and killed what would have been automatic hits like moonlight sculptor in korea. capcom worked with them for a game and then they were so ass that capcom not only terminated the relationship, they completely closed the capcom korea branch after.
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>>500069512
oh...
i didnt recognize them so i figured they would be fine, but i shouldve known better
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>>500042372
wdym, just pick the easy shit like finding the mana thing or parrot mail. or the escort which is usually done for you by the time you get there.
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>>500069689
korea is the unholy empire of shitty publishers. Nexon, NCSoft, Kakao, Krafton, Smilegate, Pearl Abyss, Neowiz, Gravity... each of them alone is worse than EA. Put together, the are the backbone of the Korean gaming monstrosity.
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>got junobote cloak from guild
noice
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>>500071107
thats just because koreans fucking love pay2win
if a game isn't pay2win enough they wont play it

any game that is popular in korea is a dogshit game
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>>500073074
this is unironically why this game is less p2w by ncsoft standards and why a game that fails in korea before coming to the west isn't necessarily an indictment on its quality (bless is an exception, though bless unleashed was a better and properly fine if unremarkable game that was already tainted by its name).
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is this video game fun?
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>>500071107
>Gravity
Oh man I remember Ragnarok Online before Kafra shop shit and refined / enriched Elu destroyed everything.
I also remember when the beta for Ragnarok ended and Gravity announced that the game would be pay-to-play on a subscription model instead of f2p and everyone went nuts leading to Gravity being hacked, an enormous amount of development data getting deleted setting RO's content back by around 5 years and resulted in installers for the game's official server software leaking resulting in the first generation of RO private servers.
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>>500073534
>enable auto play
>everyone is on a playing field with bots now
>disable auto play
>botters have an insane advantage
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>>500013228
>>500013556
Pettanko!
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>>500074605
Autoplay would make these shitty ass drop rates and 0 mob density make sense
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>>500074583
Gravity was such a bunch of retards that private server became the de-facto way to play the game a few years after its release and housed many more players.
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>Bellandir gear is now 30k on NA East
That shit tanked fast
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>>500075380
maybe on the poor people servers
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>>500075464
yeah pay more for them goy
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>>500075380
>>500075464
There's 0 reason for any piece of gear to be over 4k. Whales get the rope.
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>>500075740
4k is literally nothing
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>Koreans loving p2w games
Nah.. you mmofags are now in the minority. People don't play mmo any more. Mmos have to be designed that way to keep the business running. Wake up and start swiping
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>over 40 world bosses
>0 pieces of loot
you rike?
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>>500075919
more than half of those games are extremely pay2win though?
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>>500075975
Try 100+ with no drops
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>>500075919
>Overwatch
>Diablo 4
>WoW
>Diablo 2
This is some blizzfag's fever dream list
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>>500076162
wym? top 6 has more than 70% market share and they are all rts fps
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>>500076192
you rike?
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>>500075919
not helping the argument that koreans only like dogshit games though
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>>500076291
koreans love dogshit blizzard games for some reason
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>>500078765
>nuwow
>nudiablo
>nuaion
>bns
all of those are utter shit
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>>500080856
>>500080856
new
>>500080856
>>500080856
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ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND I CANT TAKE IT
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>>500078765
>KOREANS ONLY PLAY P2W GAMES
>40% play league
>S-STILL K-KOREANS HAVE SHIT TASTE BUT I AM BAITED TO PLAY THEIR GAMES
murican iq
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>>500084126
koreans dont play tnl though retard
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>>500084126
bro they only play it at their pc cafe, the rest are at home jerking it to their gooner mmo chars. they have shit taste



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