Aryan EditionPrevious thread: >>499741526>Version 1.03(1.04 if you're on console) is out!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2679460/view/4526772422651793108?l=english>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day>Now available EVERYWHERE (but Nintendo Switch and Xbox One)>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases>Kino commercialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA>How many hours have you played?>What day are you on?>What are your favorite classes?>Favorite BGM?>Are you having fun?>"How should I build my MC?"Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.>"What is the best team comp?"Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.>"How should I manage my time?"There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.PLEASE MARK SPOILERS
>>499821054rape louis
I WANT TO FUCK Basilio
>>499821292God, I do too.
>>499821292Yeah, that feels good
>steal>steal fails>restart fight>repeat until successStealing is such a retarded dogshit mechanic that shouldnt ever be in another RPG ever again.
It's absolutely fucking unacceptable that this game looks like it came from 2012.All that hyper stylized menus and the game looks like an upscaled Tales games from back then.Rubber ass looking 3d models and blurry ass backgrounds, what the fuck?About 90% of the game's sound effects are reused from Persona 5 too, dungeon crawling is also very similar to Persona 5 but instead of sneaking you smack shit instead.
>>499821948sorry but reload got mogged
I appreciate how Catherina scratches her ears when shes idle. Its a nice touch.
>>499821145Junah and Catherine both overtly hint at romance towards the MC in their bond 8 and final day scenes. Gallica also has many optional choices for MC to display his affection that she reciprocates. Eupha is just the one who is most overt about it.
Hulkenberg is too stupid for romance
>>499822605[your waifu]*
>>499822605Maybe she's just not interested.
>>499822692autistic and doesn’t understand sexual attraction
rella is my wife
>>499822442I never saw that animation. Does her movement resemble a particular animal? This general doesn't agree on what animal her features are based on.
>>499822905Her ear twitches on its own, then she goes and scratches it. Its cute.
>>499822881Your wife is a moth
>>499823058
>>499823124i dont remember this
>>499823385You have to read Basilio's literary workbook from the bookshelf on the runner.
>>499822783Hulkenberg's charmed line implies there may be a bit more than just autism to her fixation.
>>499824095what does she say?
I like that part in the story where Junah gets her pussy ripped apart by Louis.
>>499824240Louis would rather die than be inside a woman
Lord almighty this 2nd worm fight bardon 7 is wrecking my shit.Im just under level 30, dont have wizard yet so im plinking it with weak blizza and consumables, Im running out of mp before i get it to half hp
I recommend reading this post >>499824462 with the most dramatic Scottish accent you can muster.
>>499824792Have you been using buffs, debuffs, or any other defensive skills?
>>499824095Charmed is charmed, I don't think it's indicative of their true feelings.
Wouldn’t it suck if Basilio decided to go the beach when they were on Virga Island and he sees the ship teleport because forehead gigante wanted to go shopping
>>499825078Yes i have, but i end up lacking mp to upkeep the buffs and debuffs later into the fight.My archetype selection is kinda lacking cause i havent diversified nor have i grinded as much as i should have
>>499825602>wow their runner really is fast
So about Louis's younger years was he always batshit insane or did it only brew after he was exiled from the palace?
>>499826676Idealistic when the king first visited the village and married the eldan queen, and then insane after the Sanctists burned the village down while the king did nothing.
>>499826676Since Rella "touched" him and saw that vision when he was very young already he must have been off the deep end way before the exile. Just made everything worse who knows maybe if the prince lived he would have been a better influence on him. I'm surprised they didn't really turn out to be at least acquaintances
>>499826676The japanese fujos need to play faster, I need edgy art of shota Louis watching the flames
>>499827172I felt that was well missed potential, but Louis is like 10 years older than the Prince. He was 6 when the assassination attempt happened and who knows how many years before that he spent in the palace after the assault on the Sanctum.
>>499827334Before the whole prince is MC stuff was revealed and we knew he didn't curse him, I was so sure that he might even have a fond relationship with the prince and he'd be shocked once he saw what Louis was planning and they'd have a confrontation about it but not like when we fuse we ever acknowledge our memories as the prince
>>499827778There is one moment we do in the royal palace where he recognizes the place that the assassination attempt happened. So the memories are there, they're just not really brought up.
>>499826676He used to be innocent at some point, before the sanctum burning at least. After that, he became a powerfag, but still somewhat moderately sane. It was after the King believed Forden that he went "just fucking kill everyone" mode.If we assume Louis was the same age as Rella during the time of the curse (12), Grius says that Louis joined the army "15" years ago (which would have made Louis be 9). It's not said when did the Sanctum burn and when did he meet More back then, but you could assume maybe he had been Prince age at the time, or maybe a little less.
>>499828037Maybe it is because the prince was so young when it happened but I'd have liked if he was more emotional about his father and mother in some regard. Even Strohl reacted more there when he talked about how the king doesn't react to him.
>>499828184The King's visit to the sanctum was probably not the first, but the timeline of it is screwy as all hell. But if Louis was 9 at the time of joining the army, then that would have had the prince still only be 3 at the time of Louis leaving. However, Louis was around for the fire, which would mean that at most, the prince was only 3 when the sanctum burned. Not much time for friendly bonding then.
Hulkenberg is too stupid
Eupha is too cute
>Junah rank 3What the fuck
>>499829061Remind me what happens there.
EnemiesLord Louis's Enemies
>>499828925
>>499829134can she turn herself into a hobbit version of herself
>>499824462>Louis would rather die than be inside a woman
>>499828513I don't think Louis ever cared about the Prince more than he cared about the King. Even when talking to Zorba about knowing he's alive, he calls him his nemesis so he probably wasn't fond of him to begin with just not enough to kill him.
damn beyond dragon trials and the final dungeon I got two weeks leftthey really give you plenty of time
Do you think the romantic tension between Catherina/Brigitta and the mc was on purpose or accidental?
>>499828513I thought the prince escaped the castle after the assassination attempt and then the sanctum got burned according to the first flashback, but was that just a bad memory?
>>499829564Zorba looking zesty
>>499829545It's more that she can turn herself into an adult version
>>499829631No, that was a fake memory.The Prince wouldn't have ever truly known what happened during the burning because he was barely even born.
>>499829631The Prince was born and raised in the sanctum, the sanctum got ransacked BECAUSE he was there, then he was brought to the palace and legitimized, then following the assassination attempt, they hid him away in the Sanctum again because it was considered destroyed and no longer there
>>499829605It was undoubtedly on purpose.
>>499829631Sanctum was burned prior to him being cursed. They chose it as his hiding place because attackers would be unlikely to check a place that had already been razed once and now believed to be uninhabited.
Fighting the first trial dragon, the one that spams claws and then fire and ice breaths. Getting fucked for the physical part, do I need to unlock Paladin for it or something? Tetrakarn gets dispelled.
I wish I could answer every gameplay question now that I've beaten the game but I cannot for the life of me remember anything I did for any particular boss. I'm so used to press turn battles that they all blend together.
>>499830673you can't remember sogna or the fire seducing dragon?
Do not ask a Sanctist what happened on 9/11 of the year 785
moral of the story:become king and u can just appoint all your friends to top level government positions
>>499831412Literally every candidate was going to do that except Louis.Lovelss would need a tard wrangler as he'd be too drunk for it
Hmm.. that's gonna be a puzzle, he 2 shots my people and gets 8 moves and if I use tetrakarn it gets dispelled, same for marakukaja, gotta figure something out.
>>499831574Louis would have chosen the most qualified candidates for the job, not nepotism.
>>499831607wait this is your ice and fire dragon? I just did this dude 10 minutes agohe's the melee guyif you haven't been handing in your golden beetles yet, do soguy gives you dragon slayer gear and the second reward gives you slash resistancealso wtf lol>summoner on junah>wizard on eupha>fucking persona on hulkwhat is you doinget strohl, get utilitarian manual and spam his 22mp movesame thing with your guy, use prince and spam royal bladeget junah utilitarian manual for party wide charges and bas for his war cry debuff if you've got his royal version
>>499830832Sogna just required managing Frostbite. I had to chip him down. Devourer of Flames was a gear check with the auto-delete spell that the informant wants you about. I did the dragons in a random order and benefitted from having the Null Fire gear from the others. That's all I've got.
>>499831659I wonder what would have happened to Del and Bas had he succeeded. Junah might have been fine mostly.
>>499831412They're all legendary dragon/god slayers, so it's also meritocracy
>>499832090All three of them would have to survive magla poisoning before anything else.
>>499831961I'm getting all tier 1 and 2 classes maxed on everybody before I unlock tier 3 and royals.
Eupha is shit and should have killed herself.
>running around during epilogue listening to NPC chatter>"so in the end, the king ended up being the king's son anyway. doesn't it seem like everything was rigged?">"the king just appointed all of his companions to top positions, isn't that kind of unfair?"They have a point.
>>499832331I was kind of surprised at how much negativity there was among the populace, it wasn't making the new rule out to be bad, but I expected everybody to be head over heels and apologetic for having ever badmouthed an elda and so on.
Alright I won.
>>499832667>Gold RushYou didn't beat the trial.
Well to be fair it wasn't a free ride to being king for Will and he had to earn it.
>>499832491>but I expected everybody to be head over heels and apologetic for having ever badmouthed an elda and so onThe optimistic sort, aren't you.
>>499832772not even as good as royal blade and wanton destruction
>>499832826Did he truly really earn it though?>Mother manages to make your OC real to save you>Also makes a fairy guide your OC>Makes it easier for you to unlock archetype power>Your father trapped himself into your book so he could ALSO help you>Revives you when you literally kill yourself>The King always had expected his son to win to begin with
>>499832993I wouldn't expect it in real life, but I was optimistic about the populace of Grand Trad's views changing in this optimistic game about how you can change the world and tear down prejudice.
>>499833313See you in Metaphor 2 when we have to be the actual king and fail and in 3 we make a great comeback
>>499832667>hulkenberg masked dancer>eupha wizard>junah summoner
>>499833101The king himself admits that it was a huge gamble on his part, and that while he preferred the outcome with his son being the next king, he legitimately was fine with whoever became the next one as long as the people decided on it.
Sex with Maria
It didn't really hit me while I was watching it happen at the end of the game but it's pretty metal that Will stops himself from becoming a human by ripping out his actual heart. If someone as strong as Will has to go to that length to stop the process, I wonder if no one was going to survive Louis's melancholization. I wonder how Louis felt about the possibility that absolutely everyone would become a monster.
>Fidelio knowsOh shit
>>499834237The process Louis wanted people to survive was the first time he transformed into a human, and then after a bit he just turned back. Him ripping his heart out was the second time it happened and he just stopped the process altogether, he didn't go through it and then revert, it was also after he had already proven he could overcome it in Louis' eyes seeing as Louis spells out his whole plan before that. Also, you don't get much on the world if Louis wins, but you still can side with him and get some text on it, and I think it's enough to infer his society would have functioned at least on the level of there being some who would overcome humanization.
>>499834516Knows what?
>>499834237Actually, how in the fuck did Will survive ripping out his own heart? More pulled him into Akademia to save his consciousness, but his body would still be fucked up.
>>499834976The lyrics to all of Junah's songs.
>>499834976That Junah is balding
>>499832331I'm glad they have self awareness of how it looks considering all the world bending cheat codes he needed to get there
Does rank 5 wisdom even do anything? None of the bond events seem to require it.
>>499835591Yeah
>>499835684What does it do then?
>>499835036I think you should assume that More heals him when he gives his life to Will Sailor Moon R-style.
>>499835785I'm saying yeah it's required
>>499835785makes your brain big enough to romance Junah, game recognize game
>Gold 30 battles gauntlet>Just spam A to spam Summon Dragon God and one shot everything other than the Manticore.
It's kind of crazy how easily small enemies stunlock you in this game. The double skeleton spawner in the land of ceremony just chain stunned me from 100 HP to death at 20 per hit before I could even dodge roll.So anyway what's the most mindless job to pick if I plan to farm enemy spawners? One where I can just duck into a corner and spam the attack button or something.
It's fucking hilarious he's the first to fold
>>499835968I put on speedhack for that
>>499836050Goddamn it, Strohl
>>499831607>Third eye>Proclamation>Dodge Ringezpz
>>499831659He would've been fine if not for the batshit crazy part of his plan. If even he couldn't measure up to what that plan required of the populace there likely wouldn't be enough folks after the fact to repopulate
>>499836050>Junah and Bas are the only ones who dont foldBest characters for a reason
>Murky GraveyardH.R Giger biomechanical nightmare world
Summoner is retarded endgame. Night infinite MP cuz of max Junah and it one shots everything.
>Trying to beat the devourer of nations dragon, can't get around his extra six turns bullshit>Change equip to try another strat, he suddenly stops doing his extra turns move>Beat himwtf happened
>using Junah
>>499837173here you go, Maria
>>499837483Yes
Masked Dancer was a mistake
>>499837483
>>499829605Catherina is on purpose even if its mostly just at the end. Brigitta I'm not sure. Sometimes she comes across as just a older lady looking out for ya and at other points she seems almost as ready to get with you as Eupha.
I wish that was me
>>499837801>masks take accessory slot so no one even bothers with the gimmick>extremely cheap party-wide chargeAs someone who used Masked Dancer, I agree that it was a mistake
>>499837865Louis liked her around so he could see his reflection in that shiny forehead
Eupha > Junah
For me, it's Brigitta
>>499838028>>499837778Junah, Bas, and Heismay have the best archetype lines. I haven't seen all of Eupha's yet, but about half of them have just been "I will use this power! Watch me, Dragon God!". I wish they were all fun ones.
did louis junah sex
if you revisit the nord mines, can you encounter the dragon again?
>>499838556only so Louis could see his own reflection in Junah’s forehead
If I need mana but can't one-shot the dungeon enemies, can't I just stun a group of enemies over and over again without engaging the actual fight?
Maria > everyone else
Where can I get a Divine Talisman? All I need for the last summon.
the voice lines for the alonzo path are by far the most emotionally charged will gets in any of the links, making them the OTP
>>499838673As far as I know, you cannot revisit the Nord mines. I tried and Gallica won't allow it.
>>499839240unfortunate>>499838953i got one on top of one of the towersthink it was the one north of alterbury
>>499838556Yes many times
>>499838953There's a guy on the island that sells talismans for 10k each. I'm pretty sure I saw him with the divine one but I might be wrong. If not, the other anon is correct and there's a divine talisman atop one of the towers.
why is this guy so chill?
>>499838790Can confirm this works. Very tedious though because even in the last dungeon and with the final mage archetypes the passive only gives you ONE mana per stun. I hate that this passive doesn't scale properly. In early game where spells cost like 5MP on average it's godly but late game it feels almost worthless.
>>499839845He's not chill. He's literally seething.
>fight superboss>on its first turn, does a 9999 damage moveyeah thanks buddy
please tell me the game gets better after the invading louises yacht. this part sucks so much i almost want to quit playing.
>>499839992but he's always nice to you through the seethe
>>499840056Get good.
>>499840056Oh god please tell me it's not ANOTHER fucking Elizabeth fight
>>499840067
>>499840296I don't like any of the females in this game desu except for girus wife i guess but shes a widow so i would feel bad for smashing.
>>499840056You broke the rules. Are you fighting the Elegy of Something? Will's Shadow?
>>499840468yes
so does the game get better after getting Hulkenberg
>>499840559Take off any Repel equipment.
>>499840569yes. getting heismay is pretty fun but afterwards its another drag arc.
>>499840569Yes. I know people hate to hear>it gets good after ten hoursBut it's literally the case in this game. If you hate it now you won't start liking it, but if you're "meh" about the game now, it really does get better once most of its systems have opened up.
>>499840468>>499840559>>499840674CAN'T ESCAPE FROM CROSSING FATE
>>499840285
>>499841371Envious, she knows she stands no chance in the Willbowl with her flat as a plank ass/back directly connects to her legs
>>499841793She could just be hungry.
>one of the endgame armours has 10 more DEF than similar armours but no effect at all, making it pretty bad in comparison>game keeps auto-equipping it when I change archetypes around because it has the highest DEFLET ME TURN THIS SETTING OFF
Twink death is a crazy thing
>>499842535How did he hit the wall so hard? Was it the Royal Scepter's fault?
Louis mindbroke me. I had to switch to easy. He won.
>>499842719He had to work clopen shifts for the royal library for a week.
>>499842719>>499842819>>499842535Eldan pussy changes a man
>>499842719I think he generally just gave up and stopped giving a shit about anything after what happened. Forden was essentially already ruling the country.
>superboss rewardit's fucking shitexcept for the swordi mean essentially 40ish levels across the board is useful, sure but something like utilitarian manual would still be way better to have
>>499843165How did he even allow it to get to that point? It's implied that Sanctism wasn't even as big as a force back then as it is now. The King didn't even try to change the world.
Reminder Catherina has a MASSIVE dumper.
>makarabreak doesn't clease quartz wallWTF, what does then?
>>499843592I took the exact same screenshot lmao. What a sight it is.
>>499843601Nothing, just use Physical skills. On Phase 2 you can also just waste your last press turn to remove it from the element you wanna hit.
>>499843471Blinded by his ideals is my guess that he couldn't tell the true character of someone like Forden. The problem is that he crumpled like a piece of paper once Forden showed his true colors when the reality is he should have had Forden nailed to a cross.
what are the best summons to research for devil summoner?
>final dungeon has a fucking teleporter room gimmickGET ME OUT GET ME THE FUCK OUTTTT THIS WASN'T FUN IN FUCKING STRANGE JOURNEY IT'S NOT FUN HERE GET ME OUUUUTTTTTTTT
>merchant line is stronger than the royal classesWhat are they trying to say there?
>>499844371Focus on the target first because the gimmick disappears once u complete it.
>>499833101That just levels the playing field with the other two major contenders.
>>499844642Every King needs his court jew
>>499844642You always know (((who))) the real power belongs to.
>>499843592now that I think about it sorta ironic that all the girls who take any interest in Will are all races that are also low on the social hiearchy
>>499843302What sword? He only gives the regalia and ring. The ring is useful if you don't have the repel accessories.
>>499845602baka
>>499840282I wish.If it was an actual superboss he'd instantly kill me right here.
>>499845602this thing niggaand i was talking about the ring yeahpretty much 40 levelsbut you've got way more useful shit at this point, like resist accessories
>>499845852You get that from >>499845809
>>499846062you're telling me that's not the superboss?
She looks like she fucks Elda men.
>>499846167Yes
>>499846215shidd
>Church has been selling the lie that you can't cast magic without an igniter for presumably quite a long time.>Turns out magic is just done by being anxious and feeling strong emotions.This makes absolutely no sense. With how fucked up the world is, SURELY there'd be a lot of people who had accidentally stumbled into the right cocktail of negative emotions to will magic from nothing.
>>499844371actually I think it's a reference to Nocturne's diet building
retard here. do i lose anything for 'skipping' fights by killing them on the overworld? or do i get full exp and loot?
>>499846913No, it's about conquering that anxiety
>>499846913it's explained in the final dungeon
>>499847035You'll miss out on the unscathed bonus but otherwise you'll get the same rewards.
This final dungeon theme was cool for the first, like, maybe 10 minutes.Now I'm about to just mute the game. I'm going crazy.
who's the better bruiser, basilio or strohl?i'm assuming strohl is better once he's got hassou tobihis crimson slash used to carry me through the game but i noticed it being about the same damage as wanton destruction, which isn't even a synthesis skill
>>499838090I had Junah in the party exclusively for 1 turn party wide charge because I was running phys MC and Strohl. She never got to attack during the endgame a single time, literal chargeslut kek
This dude is retarded
>>499849015no he was just really gay
Maria is cucking you bro give up
>>499849015Oh come the fuck on man I know you're not THIS retarded
>>499848957both are kind of situational but strohl need commander line to get access to his royal archetype so he will end up having inheritable buffs no matter what
>>499846913Did you miss the part where the royal scepter is literally made to absorb the anxiety of all the nation's citizens to power itself?
So people will cause the end of the world again because someone will inevitably abuse magic again. Church was right
>>499849015>>499849195Okay I give up maybe everyone in this game is just this retarded.
>>499847496None of the music was good imo. Grand Trad was so terrible.Can't believe the same composer made the P5 and P3R soundtrack. I remember spending more time in Kaneshiro's palace because Price was that good a track.
>>499846913Turning anxiety into magic requires you to not only conquer that anxiety, but also clearly visualize how you want to channel it. You can't do it by accident. Read the memorandum.
>>499848957By the time you get Hassou Tobi, you should just be doing Strohl's synthesis severe slash instead, with the reduced synthesis turn accessory.
>>499838080Which one?
>>499847223Great, thanks anon
>>499844642post your build please
>>499837483>>using JunahBetter than Eupha in every way, including meta.
Followers in terms of usefulnessAlonzo > Catherina > Maria > Bardon >>>>>> Brigitta
problem with metaphor is it doesnt have an "iconic" location like the leblanc cafe
>>499849994Merchant is busted
>>499850006The gauntlet runner?The hushed honeybee inn?
>>499849994>Catherina>When she only appears for like 3 dungeons
>>499850049But Brigitta's bonus of discounts for the igniter shop sucks
The pagan village song is racist
>Dancer Junah>Ice-Blue Dance into Frigid Fortress Tactic>Continuous Ice Weakness as long as you keep using Frigid Fortress Tactic>Dancer Junah>Hellfire Dance into Eupha's Summon Dragon God (Modified)>Hit everyone's weakness and debuff themThe dances actually had their uses, in the end.
By order of the King, show it to me NOW here in the streets
>>499850325anal sex with junah (non-glamoured)
>>499850281All I could think of while listening to it was thishttps://youtu.be/E-xhxS581Uc?si=zFwCIr3hUWq9F_sy&t=21
>>499843761I ended up using an elemental skill on the on the last press turn in order to force her to recast Quartz Wall and waste one of her press turns.
>>499849994Alonzo's class is top 3 easily, the trickster skills never left heismay's skill list no matter what I switched him to (if you don't include the royal classes). Anyway putting him at last is incorrect
Please don't
This is one of the stupidest climaxes to a story I've ever seen.WHY DID THE PARTY ONLY JUST NOW START THINKING THAT LOUIS MIGHT BE LYINGWHY DOES NOBODY CALL HIM OUT FOR HIS COUNTLESS LIES THROUGHOUT THE GAME WHEN HE SAYS HE'S NEVER LIEDWE JUST PICKED UP HIS HORNS NOT EVEN A MINUTE AGO AND LEARNED LIKE THREE MINUTES AGO FROM ZORBA THAT HE CAN HUMAN-IFY EVERYONE AND THAT THE ELDA AREN'T THE ONLY ORIGINAL HUMANS LIKE HE INITIALLY SAIDWHY DOES THE PARTY START HAVING DOUBTS AGAIN WHEN HE STARTS TALKING WHEN THEY JUST FIVE MINUTES AGO STARTED REALIZING THAT HE WAS A LIARNOBODY IS USING THEIR FUCKING BRAINSFUCK
Hear ye, hear yeIn light of recent -ahem- communal events, which others might call riots, the lords of Oceana and Montario are seeking to buy everyone's trust with a "friendship banquet". Little surprise, given how many are in vocal support of making a banquet of them. There's no doubt it would be full of all the pomp and circumstance one can except from it. If you've a mind to attend, uh... God help you.Moving right along to more practical means of social cohesion, His Majesty has opted to extend amnesty for all crimes stemming from the elections, up to capital crimes. Smart move if you ask me, our guard have their hands full just cleaning up the bodies from that sordid mess.Last bit of news, on a lighter note, the Seekers are recruiting any and all who seek a life of adventure. With fair warning though, the leader of the Seekers emasculated and mutilated the last man who chased her tail.That's all the news for you, fellow Tradians. Until next time, keep your ears perked and your minds opened.time to go get fucked up on bourbon and shitpost in /pg/
>>499851174Eupha was great.
if you didnt play EN dubbed you didnt beat the game
>>499851507If you play the game with any sort of audio you are literally cheating.
>Opera Housekek Louis is such a failure
>>499850220igniters suck periodthe canon is that they're useless to (You) and the gameplay reflects that
>>499851082Oh my fucking god I hate this game.
>storyteller selected>powerpyx 100% guide open>cheat engine launched>left thumb ready to press L3 whenever i lose more than a third of my hpyep, it's metaphor time
>>499851723anon...
>>499851723See you in an hour.
Batlin should become the next pope
>>499851952What's supposed to be wrong with this? That's exactly what the king was doing
Batlin should become the next king
>>499852089Because at this point in the story it's been beaten over and over again into the narrative (especially in the past half-hour) that the will of the people had been manipulated by lies and deceit by Louis. Despite this, nobody in the party is calling Louis out for his lies, and everyone still thinks that this is truly the genuine will of the people.
>>499849397Palace drove me insane. Who really playtested this and was fine hearing out of sync chanting on loop would sound good?There's setting a mood and then there's that obnoxious trash.Drakengard nailed repetitive, insanity inducing experimental music on release.
all the music is 10/10bet you fags don't like .midi either
>>499850495based shota
>>499852452Filtered. That track was great
>>499851227This dude and Loveless were unexpected favorites.
them putting "love" and "darling" in junahs vernacular is so awful, like she's a fat 45 year old british woman. really don't think british people should be allowed to localize jrpgs
Eupha is shit and should have killed herself
Junah is shit and should've been murdered by the brothers.
Next time I play I'm going full Mag, none of that hybrid propaganda you people sold me.Prince gets by with Emerald Vortex
>>499852607I'll filter you, bastardhttps://youtu.be/PC3steTw9Jg
>>499852785>worst link.png>picture of euphaI agree
>>499852785You’ve never been talked to by someone who has affection for you
>>499852785>like she's a fat 45 year old british womanFor all you know that's what she actually is since her race are loli
>le dragon temple is kinoooooYou fuckers lied to me it's fucking boring.
>>499852785retard
>>499853026contrary to what you might believe you can be affectionate without talking dated geordie.>>499852984yup, didn't mean to post that image at all but eupha's link is awful, for all that the translator has tried to uglify her speech at least she's still likable
>>499852963I don't need to click on it to know it's those same four fucking notes.
>>499853143I like it as an Etrian reference but that aside I think at worst its a bit tedious moreso than hard.
>>499853335fuck off
>>499853143None of the dungeons are good, just like every smt and smt adjacent game it's just something you have to do to get to the real content of the games
>>499852452Yeah, I was so disappointed.I bought the game after playing the demo, hoping the music would grow on me... but it never happened.
I beat the entire game on Hard without dying once.
>>499853335It's a completely normal thing anon. Even here in the south, everyone is dear, hun, love, etc.
>>499853631Nobody cares about you inbred hicks.
>>499852785>really don't think british people should be allowed to localize jrpgsBravely Default 2 was like this as well, I fucking hated it.
>>499852785Fucking kill yourself. Xenoblade and this games dub shits all over the Tara Platt/Allegra Clark/Los Angeles Z Tier Talent That Can't Get Real Work spam.
>anon hates British culture episode
>>499853451>>499853235say something of substance, loser>>499853720dragon quest is ten times worse so at least it isn't worst case scenario. for the most part with refantazio you can ignore it with the japanese audio
>>499853143>>499853371I dunno, I came into it underlevelled and over my head and it was pretty challenging as I slowly worked my way up the levels to the point I could clear the low tier mobs with real time combat to regen MP and then slowly work through the cycle again and again with higher level enemies until I was super strong by the end. I gained over 10 levels in that dungeon.
>>499853913english VO junah is the most adorable thing ever
>the next daykek Forden is such a failure
>>499853889xenoblade is also awful. tara platt, allegra clark, those are actors, there is almost always an undub project that will solve that, my issue is when the prose itself gets corrupted by british hands
>>499853701We're not half as uncivilized as you believe.
>>499854147I think he'd prefer if the game was voiced by American VA instead lol
>you have to live in one of the primary cities(teleportables) >whichever you pick will have the theme running for your entire lifewhat do?
PLEASE THINK OF THE POOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIAN ACTORS BOYCOTT THE BRITISH INVASION OF JRPG DUBS
>>499854419turn off magical music duh
>>499854419Eht Ria of course. Cute Mustari women and nice tunes.
>>499854473No english voice actors should be hired at all, localization should be only text. and that indeed should be done by non-british people
>>499854419Eht Ria, easily.
I think all of the girls would look extremely cute in a ponytail.
>>499854546but it's 47c in september..
they should region lock video games again
>>499854804(because fan translations are generally of higher quality)
>we helped you out at the very end>please don't punish us for being evil and corrupt
They should never translate the games to English ever again.
>everyone has an incredible job that they love at the end>even still they're all yearning to run off and dick around as adventurers againToo real
>>499853524The desert set up insanely false expectations.You jump in, hear this masterful composition, and even though Grand Trad isn't that exciting you reasonably assume- ok, just town music, nothing too crazy.And then by Oceana it's basically over. There's nothing that really stands out anymore outside a few select tracks.
Gideaux would've overtaken Louis if he let people rub his bald head
>>499853889>Game language set to default English>It's Matt Mercer/Travis Whatever the hell againGlad nips are realizing Brits are where the quality is. FF16 is basically made to be played in English and BG3 has Neuras as a dwarf.
>>499855442>the game asks you on first launch what language you want and it hovers over japanese firsthow did you interpret english as the default language?
>>499855347Lying to Gideaux and telling him that me licking my palm and then smacking his perfectly bald head is a sign of great respect in Elda society
>>499854419Throwing Gallica into a jar so I don't have to listen to any of them more than two loops
Imagine Persona 6 but with British localization...LMAO
>>499855520I didn't mean this game specifically autist anon.
>10 days remain>still have all trials remainingI just want the game to be over by now, fuck this, I'm skipping this shit
>>499855651>game is set in 1960's London
>>499855742only reason any jrpg is set to english default is because americans and english people hate to make an effort or read. of course if all those people are gonna play in english anyway, developers are incentivized to sell a lie that "oh yeah the english version is totally good and intended and just as in touch with the creation process". this is NEVER actually true
>>499855651would probably be better than whatever D-list anime VA's they'll end up using
>Fideliobros….
If your favorite character isn't on the runner in the last non-anime scene of the game, R I P
>>499855854Don't skip the trials. They add scenes in the epilogue.
>>499855957So that anon specifically brought up FFXVI because it's a rare case where the English script serves as the basis for the Japanese version and other localizations. Retard
>>499856045UGGHHH fine, I was hoping to finish the game today but fuck it if that's the case
>>499856175They're fun fights and you should be able to do all of them at level 60, assuming you're on hard.
>UGGHHH finelol goofy ahh anon
>>499856072yes I'm bringing up that they're "incentivized to sell a lie" specifically because of that example. also that's not even what the ffxvi interviews suggest, they just say it's "just as accurate", the developers have never in direct interviews claimed that it was english first, that's a thing fans and outlets ran with.
>>499856020Our Del.
would you?
>>499856298>>499856072also walk that back and think about it for a second, if ffxvi was written in english first then translated to japanese, why would they have a localization team for english separate from the japanese? the truth is that they wrote it in japanese like all jrpgs, then they did amendments after the localizations to make them more similar. all the creative work was done in japanese with little touchups to make versions more cohesive, and then they did a marketing spin on thathttps://www.pushsquare.com/features/interview-final-fantasy-16s-devs-on-clives-name-god-of-wars-leaves-and-fulfilling-fans
>>499854419Am I the only one who finds Martira cozy
You will never be Japanese.
>>499856624I don't know what's going on, but Yoshida's games are written in both languages. The storyboards are multilingual because their localizers are in-house, in Japan.>>499856670Aside from all the child murder and rape dungeons, it's quite lovely.
>>499856670I like martira, but it's probably the place with the least things to do out of all the large towns/cities. also bardon has terrifying dictatorial inclinations and I don't want to be anywhere near that
>>499856670Most boring arc in the game.
*throws you off the Colerodio Cliff*
Will is a pussy who'd never say anything like this.
The only music I hated was the island one. Hated every minute I had to hear it. Good thing it's small and short lived.
>>499856516Would I canonically steal this child from Fabienne as if I were her new father? Yes.
>>499857150>Good thing it's small and short livedDon't diss your own dick like that, bro
>>499854419I'll have to kill Gallica to not go insane
>>499856778Koji Fox is a localizer though, he's not the lead writer. that's the point. >>499857150noticing a trend of the people hating metaphor's music consistently being tastelets. I would repect if you hated the more generic fantasy pieces but the people that yearn for persona music are just cowards that quiver when a composer actually gets a bit quirky with it.
>>499857228Stop thinking about dicks for one minute man
eupha/viga island fags are so insecure. your music sucks and your girl sucks even more
>>499857312>Koji Fox is a localizer though, he's not the lead writerPoint.>>499857414It's a joke, fren, don't take it so hard.
>>499857090I remember there being an "I'm jealous" line in the game
>>499857150i don't get the ost complaintsi liked pretty much all music(i'm in the palace now and i like that song too)there were some real bangershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAnb6eVSwE
>>499857417based
>>499857521It's not jpop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhzLnZ3tGFg tis my favorite. if I had one problem with the ost it's that some of the loops could be longer
>>499857870Stop talking like you're a character in the game.
>>499857912
why is fabienne so underrated
>>499858050>euphafag's autism compels him to act like a chameleon and pick up on language quirks he's exposed to
>>499857521https://youtu.be/H-HCj4Xwn6E?si=wnN08dg7jA8cupXrclean versionprobably my favourite track
>>499858112Used goods.
>>499858117I'm a strohlfag actually
>>499857521I like the ost overall I just can't stand the island music
>>499858216Oh, and here I thought I had a brother...
If you think any of the thief archetypes are bad, you're just not thinking outside of the box.
>>499858112Nobody likes ugly hags with saggy tits, stretch marks, insecurities, loose vaginas, mood swings. etc.
>>499858861She’s also a paripus
>>499858112God, I love how tired and depressed she looks. She looks like a grieving widow at all times, especially with her black outfit.
>>499853889Based, fuck US voice actors, I hope they all lose their livelihoods (especially the P3R dub)
>>499858575No, that's an obvious solution. Getting creative is loading up the tooth spawner with several boss teeth, then collapsing the portal, getting a max stack of hero's leaf of light and multiple copies of the accessories in one swing of the sword.
>>499858940if you don't want to plap that paripussy you're probably a latent homosexual that has not realized it yet
problem with fabienne is her not being a romance option
>>499849419>Read the memorandumHow much of the game's lore did I miss out on by entirely forgetting that was there?
>>499859040You as a man should be attracted to fertile, tight young women like the ones in your party. Not gross hags.
>Louis tries to give the party anxiety in the last fightThis actually came in handy.I used the wind one more often, though
what's the damage tiers again?just unlocked royal slash. is it better than the synthesis version?extreme vs severesevere is cheaper
I don't understand the subterfuge after they have the lance, Will holds all the cards, he's more powerful than louis and he has the means to kill him, so just walk through the front door?
>>499859258shut up
>>499859248No. Severe is more expensive since synth skills double dip. Also, synth skills are powered up by the people you join with. Slash is just not worth it.
Alonzo.
>>499859404Is a shota
>>499859187Where did u get this?
>>499859518Study every archetype. You don't need to max them all, just study them all.
>date changes>forecast says -5c>cut directly to an animated cutscene where it's rainingmy immersion..
This game is good but 10/10 nah
>>499859339ooh i seeso that's why the solo version is that much more expensive on your own, you're not sharing the costwhat partner's stat determines how powerful a synth skill is? i'm guessing it depends on the synth skill itself, i.e. royal slash needs a partner with high str to get the most out of it
>>499832491I liked it. A lot of people were optimistic or at least skeptically positive about things thus far, but there were still a lot of detractors, which makes sense since Louis still had a ton of support right until the finale.
>>499859628Yeah, it's the relevant stat. The more you know, right
>>499859780Don't ever post this again.
>>499858575>just capped at 99 roots>wasn't even enough to cap all archetypes on the protagWhat the fuck were they thinking
>>499859834ur not supposed to learn all the archetypes
I think im getting a net negative trying to farm/grind at the foreskin tower, losing mana and money from mercant skill
>>499859914The trophy to max all archetypes says otherwise
>>499860104You supposed to one shot them in overworld
>>499859914>Not wanting to make Eupha the synthesis machine
>>499860104How the fuck do you lose money with merchant
>>499860206don't tell me you actually studied the archetypes all on your own protagonist when you were doing more's questsif you checked your quest log and compared that to the unlocked archetypes of you and your companions you'd see they matchit's the same concept for the trophy
>>499860104you really really suck at the game if you haven't figured out how to farm properly at this point
>>499860206u dont need the trophies
>>499860232>"from the Sea of Souls"Literally persona. Surprised they put it on the devil summoner class, though I guess that's where demons do reside in persona.
Is the royal palace it? Should I do everything before going up there?
>>499860795It's not the end
>>499860334The achievement literally says it has to be done on the protagonist.
>>499860795No.
>>499860795Yes.
>>499856780Honestly Bardon accidently turning into Hitler was a great decision. It's just a shame The focus isn't on people who distrust him for his direct alliance with their baby killing former leader.He's the perfect antagonist. They didn't HAVE to do it, but it was open and there.
>>499860795>anon can't tell if the part that looks like the end is really the endThis is a problem I have with almost all jrpgs. They do this thing where it seems like the story is reaching it's natural conclusion, but it turns out there's more, and more, and even more.It gets really annoying.By the time the credits roll, I'm not satisfied, I'm just exhausted.
>SMT and Persona, undeniable influences on this game, are known rather well for their encouragement of build flexibility by letting you easily get every single demon/persona>In this game suddenly it's too big of an ask to want everything They'll fix it in Refantazio: Recrowned or some shit
>>499860217my intent is to kill them enough times that they become blue instead of yellow, but its taking a while
>>499821054Hey, quick question:Does Plunder Magic scale with any stat in particular? Magic, SP or is it just a flat rate?
>>499861493Someone like him would be a great antagonist for another game
The metaphor is for racism
>>499862229Its flat and it loses value pretty quickly.Same with plunder life, but at least that one is actually really strong early-game
>Hardlocked in the final bosstime to go back an hour
>>499863297Yeah, there was a decent chunk of time in my playthrough where plunder life on Heismay did more damage than Heismay's actual attacks...
>>499863426How the fuck are you hardlocked, dumbass
>>499863426>Neuras sells MP items>He has a fucking rest zone>You have to farm the fucking teeth anyway if you want the repel accessories which will overlevel you anywayLiterally impossible.
>>499863297Okay so I just played around with itI think it's some percentage of an enemy's remaining SP because I've noticed different types of enemies always start off giving the same amount of SP regardless of the character's stats or level.So it's probably just some flat percentage of the enemy's specific remaining SP pool that you take away. Skeleton Archers start giving 7 always while skeleton sword-n-boards always start giving 5
>>499863539I didn't check for the MP items. And I don't know which teeth you're talking about
nice spoiler retard
>>499863426I unscathed the final boss on my first try, it's not that bad
>>499863640damn it i fucked up
>>499863736how?
>>499863696if you haven't finished the fucking game at this point you never will
>>499863905go take a shower you stink
>>499863640
>>499864010Not an argument.
>>499863640I don't care if More hit his menopause I still want to fuck him
I always liked Atlus' games "fine enough", but Metaphor sure is appealing to me way more than their usual stuff. Over halfway into the game, this has an all-timer potential the way I don't really care to feel that way about SMT or Persona, despite enjoying those games.
>>499863846Then delete itThat's a 30 min-until ending spoiler
>dom appearance>actually a sub
best DLC costume. change my mindprotip: you can't
>>499864576>Renefag
Anyone else think Agrica was setting up a Metaphor prequel?
>got tons of AEXP from mimics farming>now ran out of MAGFUCK
>>499864725No no, he's onto somethingThe character looks like a fag, so it actually makes sense.I regret that I called my protag Will, it's way to masculine for such a twink.I'm planning to name him Luna or something next playthrough
>>499864767I'm about to go to Skybound Avatar and haven't met her, where do you find this?
>>499864767she was just talking about the seeker who you name in that book More shows you
I am naming my MC Makoto
>>499864582Heismay's featureless torso...
Does anyone know where to get the arrow proof padding accessory? (Resists pierce damage). I have every other resist accessory but this one.
pet euphalove euphaholds euphs hband
>holding handWhat a slut!
Louis's headband is a persona reference, it's the exact same design as Aigis's
>>499864865It seems like there's so much MAG until you start trying to 100% Archetype mastering
>>499865345kill yourself
>>499865345One might say it's a metaphor
>>499865478
>>499864582it is, but the changes to the music are not
>>499863901Heismay
>>499865007do the dragon trials lil nigga
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his Eupha?
>>499865007Do skybound first, then talk to Edeni
Bas sexo
>>499866042Slut
>>499865478Why are you so upset with a persona reference in fantasy persona?
>>499865846I always disable ingame music and listen to spotify
Am I retarded or is the charadius dungeon kinda ass? I wanted a traditional dungeon but instead I got a shitty filler linear hallway simulator with minigames and shitty fights
Where can you check the skill power for this game?I mean the actual number and not the vague severe/extreme description
>>499864582jesus christ etrian odyssey designs always look terrible in 3D
Thoughts? I think everyone is usable which is why I only have three tiers, but Junah, Basilio, and Heismay definitely seem like the cream of the crop to me. Eupha is god tier for dungeon crawling but I don't really see what she could do better in boss fights than others. Stohl feels like he gets good way too late ironically, even though he's your first party member. Hulkenberg is a great buff slut but technically anyone could do it too, she's just great because she's the slowest. Junah and Basilio have way too much stuff uniquely good to them, and Heismay can abuse his agility and the turn eating dodge accessory far earlier than him learning royal thief and maxing to get the skill.
>>499866853You're a retardJust enjoy something different for a change
>>499867184Eupha has great synergy for synth skills and gives great moral support to non-homosexuals
>>499867184more like furry list
>>499867184Eupha has almost perfect element coverage and great AoE spell at low MP cost. She deserves to be higher.Junah honestly deserves to be one tier down. Yeah yeah blah blah the synthesis carries her, but her own skills suck ass, masks suck ass, dancer sucks ass. She is a one-trick ponyAgree on everyone else.
>>499867184I don't like how low Eupha is.I use her as the Synthesis machine with her special weapon and Overlord's sash as shown here >>499860232 , she's also the teams' designated Vidyartha and Debilitate person since a kind anon here spoke about what a good mix it is
>>499866853Nah it was enormously shit and may as well not even count as a main dungeon
>The party members not interacting with each other without the mc is badWhy exactly?
>>499867184Strohl is basically a superbuff crit smasher. Bas shines at inflicting weakness and just cycling himself off that weakness, but strohl can one turn bosses with pure damage if you set up properly.Where he's weakest is the mid game where swordmaster doesn't get anything great and what it gets is expensive and aoe so it can fuck you in the wrong situation. But then strohl just pivots to commander at that point in the game.Strohl also gets access to really good swords while bas's axe selection is kind of meh outside of annihilator king's axe, or axe of the old god.
>>499867184Yep, ur correct. Junah appears trash, but her charge synth basically trivializes the game, and her elemental master mask gives her so many resistances and spells that are really good at clearing when combined with Eupha. though if you can cover her weaknesses and use the utilitarian trinket, that shit is so funny. I also used her as a defensive buffer. Heismay definitely requires some luck if you just leave him with his baseline 3 turn evasiveness buff. but as long as you can maintain his 3 stack evasiveness, he will consistently dodge and ruin the enemies turn. I've heard some people downplay his dodge as not working against late game bosses, but he was probably the only reason i beat the level 99 super dragon boss at level 70. He just never stopped dodging and immediately ending his turn. True fucking baller and massive legend. I also used him as the main healer and he's the best offensive buffer because he always goes first.And bas has absurd strength and farms weakness off every enemy while hitting for 7k to 12k a turn. Though i prefer the faker defensive debuff to his warcry as his takes way too much mana. He's also extremely tanky without much need for aditional skills. but if you do give him sturdy stance he's pretty much invincible.Tycoon Will > Prince Will though. And its really not even close
>>499868764im quit drunk so ill at least try to explkainSee, the problem here is thatwell it has to do with the character as a complete set. Y'know, story, motivation, personality, design, THE SETIf a character solely exists to chime in on MC conversations and give their single line of dialogue, that doesn't give them much substance for their personality. For example, other characters ceasing to exist just because you talked to one and their event. No other characftes, that are always nearby, have anything to say on the matter. The characters suddenly exist in the void of only existing within the confines of the MC interaction. It makes them feel a lot less real and believable as a character.Like, no. I don't need Neuras chiming in that he can see Eupha and I holding hands. However, there's zero reason outside of the bond links that these characters don't have conversations with each other. Like Hulkenberg trying to get Hiesmay to eat ze bugs or Strohl trying to understand the life of a street-rat paripusThat kind of basic shit that fills in the gaps for a character's personality are crucial. The characters having friendships between each other outside of the MC is crucial. Like Eupha would realistically have some sense of admiration for Hulkenberg after the events of the Dragon Temple, but it's NEVEr brought up again and they never speak in the same scene outside of group chats. It's cheap and makes the cahracters farm more flat.Any other questions?
>>499869182Strohl is way better against multiple enemies than Bas, but Bas' royal berzerker passive where he gets the extra turn icon on crit combined with his extra strength just puts him over the edge for me
so basicallybas > strohlif you're only limited to just 1 physical damage dealer?
>>499869374yeah, there should've been friend groups that you could form, where you either train or go get a bite to eat or some shit, and get friendship synthesis attacks
>>499869807You don't even need to make gameplay mechanics out of it. Just having people act like they're friends is more than enough.
>>499869639Yeah.I used bas for general clearing but swapped to strohl for any boss where I just needed to smash it in a couple attacks.Bas's main weakness is his singular severe damage synthesis is almighty damage, when all his bonuses from his top weapons are geared towards strike.
>Entire final "dungeon" is just YOOOOO REMEMBER WHEN YOU FOUGHT THIS HUMAN????Yeah, I do>FIGHT IT AGAIN!The amount of boss recycling in this game is embarrassing.
>>499869717Against bosses, he's really nice. but you do have to farm his archetypes to catch up with the rest of your party since u get him so late.
>>499869913wanton destruction does a shit load of damage thoughcomparable to crimson moon sword art, and that's the first hit that gives the weakness for stronger subsequent hits
>>499870032It's supposed to be a "look how far you've come" moment, since you should be able to one turn them at this point.
>>499870032I never wanted to see that baby human again.Creepy fucking thing.
>>499869717It dependsStrohl has higher potential but bas inflicts weakness and can get you more mileage off each subsequent attack. If you're facing strike weak enemies it's also no contest for bas.Bas also is weak to both light and dark which can be a huge issue in the later game. Both are great but in very different circumstances.
>>499869717>>499870452Strohl does not have higher potential, even with Hassou Tobi his damage will be lower than Bas, not to mention the fact Hassou Tobi costs a gazillion MP.The biggest things going against Bas are his light and dark weaknesses like that anon said and the fact he has the lowest MP of the party but in a whiteroom scenario his damage is higher than Strohl's 99.9% of the time.His royal passive is also a billion times better.
built for sec (small elda cock)
Does anyone know if I'm blocking or repelling a certain type of damage, can I still dodge it? or does it just default to block/repel
is the great grindspot in the final dungeon after Zorba?
>>499870763yeah, it's two spawners that make giant teeth.
>>499870763The final day.
>>499870032Final dungeon was just yooooo time to go straight to the boss pointer
>>499870760I know we talk about Junah's head but if you shave all of Hulk's hair I think it rivals it
How much do levels actually matter?
how long do you think metaphor 2 will take to develop?6 years?more?
>>499871929Depends if they're going to spend years milking it like p5
>>4998719298 years minimum
>>499871929god I miss the ps2/3DS era
>>49987192925 years because we will be going back to persona and smt after this
...Mind and matter?
>>499872841they got other people now for those
>>499871929At max, four years. Six if they have to help the other teams develop P6 or SMTVI.
>unlock Prince, first fight after it>get some synthesis moves I hadn't had before because of the archetype combinations>Prince gives party 7 turns (-1 for him casting it)>Debilitate>charge from Strohl>this move>one shot the boss on hardso, this is going to be the rest of the game huh lolI guess this is a good time to ask if Strohl's charge and Junah's charge stack, or is one overwritten with the other
>>499869717seems so but I am guessing a physical based Junahcheese team wants both. You can use either and dickslap the game desu Also Strohl is great for one shotting random battles
Strohl can hit for 99999 damageyour argument is invalid
>>499869348Super wrong. Prince has too much going for it. You're better off turning Strohl into the Tycoon.
Wanton Destruction just didn't work for me in the final boss. That yellow tongue mask was just too tanky.
yeah it is a singleplayer gamethey let you break it on purpose
>>499842465yeah mandatory autoequip is so fucking dumb
>>499873628nobody (well, at least I'm not) saying it's bad. Most good RPGs let let you bend them over your knee. Zidane perma-trance with unlimited MP from FreyaTeedus and crew doing 99999 damage thanks to easy sphere grid breakingXenogears and/or using Citan at allBarely even thinking about touching cards in FF8This bitch in P3RHassou Tobi (not in this game)any Dance spell from Devil Survivor I could go on and on
Why do passives show up in my skill selection listWhat the fuck
>>499874038That needs to be patched out ASAP.
twink death is a real thing
if you used royal archetypes you didn't beat the game
>>499874168it'll happen to you too
>>499874201>>>/v/
if you used buff/debuff you didn't beat the game
If you didn't use the canon STR build you didn't beat the game, in fact, you didn't even PLAY the game.
>>499874168why did his ears get pointier with age?
>>499874404fuck using magic for the first third of the game I guess
>>499874703considering it's shit and you can just punch the first two dungeons to death no big loss
>>499874331I genuinely don't think you can beat the game like that without turn shenanigans from Faker.
I am honestly about to use that arcane dragonblood to restore mp in the bronze gauntlet on 08/12.please tell me mp restore items are easily acquirable soon, this shit is killing me
>>499874916You're better off saving the coliseum for the end.
I use strength archetypes with Junah and magic archetypes with Basilio
>>499875359I wipe standing up
>OH I'M THE PRINCE AND I'M UNDER 20 years 5 idlesdays and 40 picoseconds old in this medieval-analogue society I better not drink alcohol for arbitrary and unexplained reasonsThe limp-wristed pussycuck nip morality all these jarpegs have is hilarious lmao
What happened to the MC's religious views?I remember in the demo he was afraid to speak about it to Brigitta, but I don't think it came up again, did it?What was that all about?
>>499875773>japan legal drinking age is 20lol
>>499875773hello newfriend, CERO and the ESRB have made this true since the 90s. Are you enjoying the new world of video games, little guy? How was your 12th birthday?
>>499875864hes neutral
>>499873496>You're better off turning Strohl into the TycoonIsn't Tycoon better on Basilio since he has higher str ?
I wish there was a lawchad route where you join the church and impregnate rella
our good friend the spammer is getting utterly destroyed on another board right now so I expect him to arrive seething within a few minutes.
>>499851082how are you this filtered? louis literally and unironically never lied.
>>499876176lower agil, lower hp, less crit, but sure it would work perfectly. Up to you, really. I think Royal Berserker is wonderful, but if you were only using Bas and wanted Tycoon then sure. I imagine the gap between RB and Tycoon is lower than the one between Royal Swordsman and Tycoon, though.
>>499876132That's what he was afraid to admit? Damn, that's underwhelming.I thought it was hinting at him having his own backstory or something like that.But then again, I guess it says something that even being neutral on the religion is a big thing for an Elda in the home of Sanctism.
>>499851082>NOBODY IS USING THEIR FUCKING BRAINSoh, like youre doing right now?
>>499876457Oh, forgot to add that the lines you probably took him down give him good ass AoE for mook packs and then the usual double crit+ Fortune God on bosses. Like you said though, if you wanna use Bas, it'll work too
normal or hard?I'm not particularly enjoying battles I started normal but switched because I felt like normal wasn't challenging enough now hard feels like a waste of time because getting game overs due to needing to figure boss patterns beforehand feels like a chore
>>499876838>normal>now hard feels like a waste of time because getting game overs due to needing to figure boss patterns beforehand feels like a chorebro your L3??
>>499876985L3 doesn't let me change my archetypes
>>499876838I normally play RPGs on normal for the 'intended' experience and most other games on hard, but I think hard here is sort of easy. I say this only so you can know that I'm a normal skill gamer, no LE Ebin DARK SOULS xXxnoScope360xXx shit here.That being said, there's not REALLY a ton of difference so go with whatever you find more fun although I think normal bosses are going to feel pretty easy and boring late game to even the most raw and green RPG novice.
>>499868412Masks give great versatility, how is she a one trick pony? She doesn't even need to use the masks to make persona master/royal dancer great, but having access to more skills than any other character at once is a nice boon.
>>499877035Easy there, Pinocchio, you have people struggling with the damn ice dragon.
>>499876838I agree that its not fun because there really should be a difficulty in between but this game is so hot/cold with fights.When I started on hard I found that with ambush bonus and most boss fights weren't too bad and challenged me adequately.But dugeons were absolute bullshit if you get ambushed its game over, if you fight an enemy with only one weakness and you didn't bring someone to counter its - its over. Good fucking luck if you go to a dungeon in bad weather because you are going to fucking suffer. Imotechs spamming sleep into AoE strike make me want to fucking pull my hair outIMO normal is the most fun way to play even if things do get a bit easier if you over-level content.
>>499877035>there's not REALLY a ton of differencethe extra turn enemies get is a big enough difference I think
>>499877108This game is extremely easy coming from SMTVV though. I don't know what else to tell you.
>using masks on junahlmao wut, you're supposed to stick a Utilitarian Manual on her and spam masquerade charge
>>499877108>struggling with the damn ice dragon.Use TricksterCast the spell that starts with 'v'then the one that starts with 'd' and just keep doing that
>>499876457>>499876672Fair enough, thanks
>>499877189or just not use her and eat magic charge food for a mage team yeah
>>499877146yeah at some points I was just yelling at enemies to kill me faster so I could just recomp my team and get on with itI have college and shit to worry about so I think I'll just say fuck it and go normal
>>499877104Because of almost every mask she gets she dosen't get the full benefits or even the good spells.Like cleric for example you don't get the extreme light damage or the party cleanseElemental master you don't get the synth bonuses.However the biggest weakness of masks is that you don't get an accessory slot. No MP regen, or 15+ mag, or nullify phys/magic maladies or reflect phys/mag for endgame/endgame.
does Prince count as every class for passives, too? Like Masked Revelry for MP regen from dancer?
>>499877257nah im using her, its Eupha that i keep on the bench
>>499877334me too, was just point out magic builds have a cheesetown strategy toobut then you'd have to be literally mentally retarded to not realize that>hurr strohl charge = big number>team charge.... BIGGER number?so it's not like it's a secret or hard to figure out
>>499877334She's not locked into not using an accessory either way, and even if she was, I wouldn't waste it on MP regen due to that one wizard skill, or +15 magic when she already has the best magic stat, you're not really making a good case for them here.
>>499877574this is why P3R nerfed charge to like 2.2x. It IS an increase, but it's not 'the' way to do it like before
There is no good reason why royal classes should continue to be gated behind story progression in NG+
>>499877574Read the comment I posted earlierYes, the team charge is really fucking good. The point is that its the only saving grace of her entire kit and it only works once per battle.Like yes, if you want to cheese the game you can just Eunah + General + Debilitatate + Royal Sword w/fishing for crits and you can one shot most bosses in the game.Its just thats not a super fun way to play the game.
>>499877257Why would you not use Junah for a mage team?
>>499876191the law route is closing the game before forden gets stabbed with the lance
>>499877720>Once per battle>He lacks the critical information
Hehehe
>>499877765Well I should have said her class. Yes, her magic stat on Elemental Master is going to rape face so I misspoke.
sorry, what is the problem with masks? i just used junah with various masks so i didn't have to waste time leveling archetypes. like there was no reason to level the useless cleric line when junah gets all the heals and rezzes for free through masks
>>499877909Yes they save you MAG but are inferior to the real classes if that were not a consideration (and it shouldn't be unless you fuck up and level all kinds of random shit pre endgame).The real issue is takes the accessory slot and her best class feature is her synergy, so you REALLY want to use the Utilitarian Manual. You can not, and use masks, and still rape hard and the super bosses.
Tried to make a compilation image of>Matador>Minotaur>Hydra>ZorbaBut I got lazy and I said fuck it.>But I never struggled wi-Don't care.
>>499878047i guess? her synergies were okay but never felt the need to slap a 1 turn thingy on her. i valued getting more skill variety way more than anything elsei liked masked dancer a lot and it was the class i probably used the most throughout the game, but i can see lots of people feel otherwise
>>499878229I wouldn't call a party wide triple damage buff for physical just "okay" but that's just me
>just got Tycoonokay I see why it's "op" now and why Strohl is pretty good at using it. His base crit is pretty okay and while Heismay might be higher, Strohl actually has STR to hurt shit MC would be the best candidate though
Metaphor is like FFIX, but without the stupid Necron twist at the end.
>>499879097to be fair the "huh" last boss was a time honored FF tradition
>>4998719296 minimum just because dev times are long as fuck now and the only reason is total lack of talentmetaphor much like P5 has been in dev hell for half a decade so I don't expect the studio to suddenly shit out games
so what am i supposed to do in ng+ with all the free time since my stats are max?also any way to sustain spamming the 60mp igniter for allmighty dmg vs everyone? i was hoping for easy grinding but even the 99 mp items i bought at the end from neuras will be gone in secondsand the usual shield blessing only regens 10 per turn
I had always thought the dragon trials were optional quests but there is so much dragon dialogue in the epilogue, were they actually required?
>>499879741I mean, you reached the epilogue.
>the nig...er...paripus all decide to stop taking handouts because of their past mistreatment and how they "deserve gibs" to get schooling and jobs on their own terms to be the masters of their own livesholy shit this game is a fantasy, but a nice one
>>499879861im kinda just wondering if the cinematics are structured in a weird way where the dragon dialogue is just like tacked on. They really didn't feel required.
So dogniggers are blacks and batniggers are asians? No wonder why Heismay-sama hates them so much
>>499880174No, they're Paripus and Eugief. Keep your race shit in /pol/ nigger.
>>499879946racism being solved in one year is pretty pie in the sky utopian. I applaud Atlus for making a truly earnest game but it is kind of childish in how it portrays basically any of the conflicts. The only really interesting story was the child monster one.
Imagine if the game ended with turning everyone human (non-monster), and then tried to act like that would end racism.
atlus should have stuck with high schoolfuck you niggers for begging them to move on to adult shit
>>499880376nah it's kinowe wonyou lost
you will get your persona 6 eventually so sit down kid
>>499880625eventually is 10 years
>>499880641play other games while you wait
>>499880290The game repeatedly state that discrimination and racism will not change overnight and will take a long time though. I agree that, as a whole, it all feel very naive and wishful thinking, but it's not like it goes "there's no problem anymore now :)"
the point is not to instantly fix the worldthe point is to try, to always reach for the utopia
Persona was a mistake.
>press AATASHI>press AATASHI>press AATASHIshut the fuck up you three eyed tomgirl fuck
>>499877189desu it kinda annoys me that this is the optimal meta for Junah. For my own enjoyment i use masks even though its way worse because it feels kinda "eh" to not engage with the Archetype. Also her unique Royal Masks (Mind in particular) or Warlock are really nice
>>499881374>playing in japanesesugoi... nihongo wa honto ni iine
MASQUERADEone shotting bosses on parademasqueradeleave your turn press woes behind youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkAM1FOnAk
>those lvl 88 giga-teeth from the spawner in map 2 of the final final dungeonnice, looks like maxing out royal archetypes won't be that much of a hassle
>>499881593man Will had some fun at that opera
>>499881615The giga teeth isn't the optimal strategy there.
>has glamour magic>not give yourself big boobais she retarded?
>>499882208flat is justice
>didn't readNidia can only glamour how their natural chibi/loli forms would look like aged as an adult, they actually have zero control over what that glamor would look like
>>499882208Thats not how it works, their glamour magic only lets them look how they would look if they aged normally. She doesnt get to choose
>>499882208>is she retarded?no, but you are
>>499882208Just like hulk she's censored
>political intrigue almost immediately gives way to SMT chaosfaggotryLame
>get crown king without any civil warshuh?
>>499882732Do you know why civil wars happen you dent-brained retard
>make everyone a tycoon>team is completely brokenlmao
>>499882732Besides a few seething louisfags (most of whom either deserted, got turned into humans on skybound avatar, or killed otherwise), most of the country supported Will at that point so no civil war needed. Plus the Church stepped in to keep civility. Basically you're a speedreader
WIFE
>>499881901What's better?I mean, when you can stun them down and unscathed them in 1 turn with extreme ignores resist skills consistently it feels hard to beat
>>499883409she cute
>>499883540>gallica seething offscreen
>>499883460For one, they're a random spawn, so that's already unreliable. As for second, the generators near the final save point respawn after an area change, so you're better off using those for the consistent 3K Hero's items.
>you don't have a gf irl but you can get one in metaphorLOVE LIVES ON
Is Junah supposed to be beautiful?
>>499880376Persona 6 is being developed by a different team at the same time they just don't want to let it steal attention from meta unfinished
>>499882732Apparently you are not "known" well enough outside the main city so that's why you travel out with every important government key figure in the end
I think only Price can wear this so that's another point in favor of Prince over Tycoon, as if +4 turn icons wasn't enough to make sure that no boss ever hits the ground running against you As someone mentioned, Strohl makes a good Tycoon, but Royal Sword Dude is maybe the best class in the game for random battles with 50% slash damage (they stack, the 20 and 30%) and an Extreme AoE for just 18 mp. The sword that triples Synthesis cost and damage stacks with Junah's charge for truly ludicrous boss damage too so I think he's better than people give him credit for. Basilio might be better, dunno. Strohl's good enough for it to not matter much.
new here, is this game like monark or crystar, or is it something else?
>>499886542It's a game that combines a version of SMT's turn press system for combat, slight action elements, and a similar time management and stat system to Persona set in an original fantasy world
Has any game with a job system actually managed to reward you for using a diverse selection of jobs and not just stacking the 1 most broken one?
>>499887013thank you
>>499887065Bravely default
Just throwing some extremely essential mods out herehttps://gamebanana.com/sounds/76667https://gamebanana.com/sounds/76539
>>499887065stacking isn't the meta here but there is a 'super best ultimate job' that outclasses everything else for everyone, which is sort of a misstep in my opinion
Is there a mod that removes weather yet? It completely ruins the game and makes me not want to continue. I just lost 18 hours of progress because of it.
>>499887319yeah it's called paying the weather person like 150 gold ya dunce
>>499887319???Did you turn auto save off?
>>499887295By the time you unlock it the game is basically over, and besides most progression systems have an eventual end point that's the best
>>499887295You still want to master the other jobs for inheritable skills though, and you'd want someone to be running warlord instead of their Royal class for Dynasty formation, if you want to do magic DPS elemental master is a competitive option, etc.
>>499887437That doesn't help. The enemies in this volcano are like level 57 and I'm level 45. I HAVE to go here now or I'll run out of time. I could have cleared this easily if there wasn't any weather but there is so now I have to redo my entire planning because of it. It's literally just a you cannot go into this dungeon at all today lol mechanic, nothing else. Makes the time management even more cancerous.
>>499887319Skill issue lmaoooooooo
>>499887692>You still want to master the other jobs for inheritable skills thoughWhat are the most important ones to go for there? Obviously you don't have time to get everything so I'm not sure how to best proceed and not fuck things up
>>499887805if you have to go to the fucking Volcano, then you've already unlocked the ability to change the weather via the chiefwhat the fuck are you doing, buddy?
>>499887906I don't have the food.
>>499887805Troll or retardedcall it
>>499887805Nigger you can change the weather
>>499887065fire emblem
Strohl keeps one shotting these October bosses so I don't know how hard the Prince's attack hits fully buffed yetI guess it will be a surprise
I really do wonder how many times the sentence "this will be our final battle" and variants of it show up in the script.
>>499887991>laughs in Wyvern Knight
i got stuck on that volcano bit too. the guide tells you to go the volcano but there's like no chance you're meant to go there first, the enemies are all mid fifties while even if you do all content without grinding you will be like 48 TOPS. haven't played since because i didn't know how to salvage that + the snow makes time management even worse
Sometimes I worry about you guy's level of intelligence.
>>499888121it's a retard check. Bad weather = high level enemies. Because I am a chad and tactical genius, I went there with heat and made it my bitch on hard.What the game is doing is making it so you have to use the weather mechanic it literally just introduced to you
>>499888248The weather literally removes all tactics from the game and just turns it into a buff and attack simulator lol. How are you possibly "using" the mechanic it removes all options from your side while not doing so for the opponent.
>>499887828The must-haves are vidyartha, debilitate and dekaja from the trickster line, hyper from Warlock and charge from Berserker (if you're not using Junah's synergy), and dekunda from the Healer line. You'd also want to think about what kind of passives (e.g. Slash boost, Heat Up, Sense of Kinship etc) that you want to be putting on a character in the endgame and work towards getting those as well.
>>499888346because the monsters are bosses are still easy because of large brain and testicles so I use the higher level monsters to gain massive EXP and MAG without having to farmThey do have the mechanic to turn it off if you look like pic related
i guess ill just quit. i don't have a save outside of the dungeon so i have to go back a full month. my own fault but man it stings because i was really enjoying this game up until this point. feels like your memory card getting wiped back in the ps1/2 days.. i'll watch the rest on youtube, didn't have that option back then
>>499888346>The weather literally removes all tactics from the game and just turns it into a buff and attack simulatorYes, that's lategame SMT. Weaknesses usually aren't relevant past the early to midgame.
>>499888359does charge (like Strohl's) get overwritten by Junah's because they're the same? Does self buffs like (attack up+3) still stack?
>>499888517Just turn down to easy you dunce
>>499888517the problem is you're on hard but you're retarded, so I would go to easyproblem solved
>>499888359That sounds like a lot of jobs to level in a game where you can't grind freely.
>>499888517RIP
>>499888665>where you can't grind freely?
>>499888493How do you deal with it without using a fuckton of MP? I've tried doing dungeons during bad weather but it's just too MP intensive
>>499888493>>499888526That's fine, now tell me how to beat level buffed 57 enemies with a level 47 parties without press turns working. Because I've played basically every Atlus jrpg and this is harder than all of them. I'm doing sub-100 damage to the enemies while they are doing 400+ per hit to me. Like bless me with your tactical genius and tell me how to overcome such a difference in stats.>so I use the higher level monsters to gain massive EXP and MAG without having to farmThis is also a bad thing. I couldn't have known this dungeon was this high level, so even if I meticiously clear it over the course of 12 hours, it still means I have to go back to a prior save because it might mean I ruined the difficulty curve of lower level dungeons I should done instead. This isn't a good thing.
>>499888791You can't just go in a dungeon to grind without wasting a day.
>>499888830You don't have to clear it right now. You'll have more than enough time to come back later when the weather isn't so bad + theres another quest you get in that area so you can knock them both out at once.
I really thought this game would at least have fishing. Don't go as retarded as rebirth but it'd be nice to have something.
>>499889050There's another quest besides Eupha's?
>>499888815lots of choices; grind weaklings near a crystal for wizard overworld passive mp (this takes too long for my liking)try to overlevel most stuff in a level (for example, I overleveled everything in that volacno by the time I left except for the griffon things that I avoided because they were not worth the exp to mp cost), rushing to the save point and then backtracking to the good spots is wiseuse brawler attacks on high STR dudes - they literally stay pretty good all game long and healing items are CHEAP.use thief as your main guy - if you had used Ninja or whatever for all of Dragon Temple, you would have 99 magala pills from moths without even trying
>>499889139Yeah, its finding a holy sword.>>499889085It does.
>>499888976but you can still grind freely inside of places as long as you want
this anon is a retard but he's kinda right they should probably give you SOME hint about the level of the monsters in the dungeon before you go in. i wasted so many hours of my life going into a dungeon, checking the levels, reloading a save because it's too high, checking the next dungeon, reloading. till i found the content that's for my actual level
tiny fairy feet in my mouth
>>499889216You can do it after the first couple of days? With the calendar system it's hard to justify though
>>499889271how? there is literally a star system showing you which quests are more difficult than others.
>>499887995how many bosses are phys immune at end game though?I guess you can just swap to Tycoon on them and use Swordsman to clear trash.
>>499889216So there's THREE quests here? Neuras bauble, Eupha rank 6, whatever you just mentioned? I'm just extremely paranoid about calendar days because I'm already a little behind.
>>499889340Yes, trust me you're gonna have A LOT of free time soon. I think you might have gone in there too early. >>499889298Based.
>>499889547Yes, but you might as well grab the relic and level grind what you can while you're there.
>>499889759I'm not really going to grind, but I might try and see if the Eupha quest boss is possible at all.
>>499889247>as long as you wantuntil you run out of MP
>>499888565Yes, you can't have two charges on one party member, but it does stack with the regular 3-stage attack up
>>499889901only if you're retarded
>Need one more turn to beat Devourer of Stars>Great Dragon's Shriek
>ring for synthesis>Hulk's super shield>unless the boss has an almighty attack it literally can't go for as long as you can afford 100 mp a roundlol
>>499890285idk about you but I'm doing no damage without buffs/debuffs and hitting weaknesses and all of that costs mp
>>499890593I am the biggest buff and debuff whore and will tell you that Trickster is the best class in the game but I have never ever needed to use them on normal monsterssomething is seriously wrong with your group
>>499890291>he's not using heismay to steal the enemy's pressturnsngmi
>>499890732Some of us like to actually play the game.
You did NOT beat the game if you have this achievement.
What is stopping me from stealing a high ticket item (like from the manticore enemies), fleeing, stealing again exactly?
>>499890854>what is stopping meYour patience, I'd hope.
>>499890854Pride.
>>499890854Stealing is wrong
>the boss in this volcano is level SIXTY FIVE
yeah sorry but this game is designed like shit. it unironically feels like enemies who are much higher level than you take reduced damage, which is such a big sin in game design it makes the entire game just lose all value to me.
I'm only in Martira and the biggest challenge so far is mp recovery, will we be getting mid-dungeon mp recovery or do I really have to spend 30minutes running back and forth smacking shit with the mage passive?
>enemies that are much higher level than you shouldn't take reduced damage despite a stat difference because reasons.If I slap something that has 50 endurance when I have 8 str it shouldn't take more than a couple points of damage.
>>499892303the only thing designed like shit is your fucking brain if you washed out of SMT Jr. lmao
>>499892512Get wizard.At rank 11 wizard gets an ability you can inherit that recovers mp in battle when you have a buff to atk, def, hit, or eva.There are boits in the game that cast these effects on you when the battle begins.With this you can just hop into an easy battle, repeatedly pass, and recover all your mp.
So does anyone have any tips at all? My working strategy just seems to be aoe heal, keep his attack at -3, defense of party at +3 and whittle away but I'm only doing like 120 damage a turn and Hulk's MP is going to run out over the course of that. Is there any way for me to do more meaningful damage?
>>499892512Junah has MP recovery after a won battle, I never used mage much. Maybe like 1 or 2 times all game long did I use that hero passive.Brawler's moves on your STR guys solve a lot of problems, and I put wizard's passive on everybody (regen mana when you're buffed, and I used gear that gave free buffs).I use Hulk though and she had to go up the mage line anyways, and Junah benefited from it, so it wasn't a massive waste or detour.
>do all bounties and side quests>even do supplementary grinding>feel like I'm ahead of the XP curve and might swamp the final area>red enemies on mapOkay what the hell
>>499892951not sure how you don't have Trickster at that point of the game but 2 and 3 here are the key. Also don't know why you're hitting for so little. I did that quest yesterday and was slapping that retard for 2k-3k
>>499892023/v/bros...
>>499892951I think I let Bas go to town on him.
>>499893371I'm level 47 and he's level 65.
>>499893592how the hell did you pass the virtue requirements for that quest line while being so vastly underleveled? Did you give yourself all 5s in the beginning? Cause if so, you deserve it
Is the masked dancer line worth using at all outside the charge synthesis ability? Having to fuck around with masks seems like a pain, and being able to get abilities of other archetypes just by swapping an accessory sounds nice on paper but without the right inherited skills I don't know how useful that'd really be.
>>499893828nta but i dont think you need ANY virtues to unlock that quest? it's just euphas level 6, if you do need any virtues it's level 4's tops which is extremely easy to achieve. this dungeon is just very bizarrely placed. you unlock barton's quest without needing high virtues too and that worm is level 65 too the difference is that you don't baited in wasting a full day and night going into a dungeon with that one. it's objectively pretty poor design
>>499894113I got all the masques cause I like seeing gold items in my inventory but I'll never equip Junah with anything other than utilitarian manual anywayHer phys charge is what makes the whole archetype tree worth it
>ywn have a nekomimi bro cook food for you and hang out no homo
is it really that bad to go into a dungeon and leave it without completing it or is this anon being an autistic retard? how much free time do you have to clean up near the end, i heard it was pretty lenient.
>>499894264So until I unlock that I should just run her as something else?
>>499894113The forcing a enemy to be weak to element spells are pretty nice too.>>499894520The final month gives you 30 days get ready for the finale, so unless you've bricked your run somehow an extra day inside a dungeon isn't that bad.
>>4998941394 is eloquence and 5 in wisdom before the Volcano.
>cant start the Basilio quest because he keeps asking me to go to the sky castle insteadDEATH
>>499894823I don't have 5 wisdom that's not possible. I don't have 5 in any stat.
>>499894520Very lenient. Wasting a day on a dungeon is not something you'll notice at the end, and unless he picked up the greatsword quest he'll be heading back to the volcano anyway.
>>499894520you can spend two days clearing every major story dungeon (5) in the game and you'll still likely finish everything on time unless you're retarded about time on other stuff too
>>499894892Check back another day or something. I did that quest before the dungeon.
>>499894903oh then it's right after and you're not going to be able to complete it anyways. The difficulty rating wasn't lying to you.
I was way ahead of schedule and I had about a week of useless free time to raise my stats with the runner bathtub and do other random shit before endgame. Very lenient amount of time if you're not a tard
Bas doesn't have abs
>>499894892He might want to talk on the runner meaning you have to travel somewhere
How do you get magla in metaphor?I'm at the endgame but I don't have enough magla to evolve to the ultimate archetypes or transfer the good passives.
>>499871929Didn't they start working on Metaphor after Persona 5 came out in 2016?? And I'm sure they're going to come out with an expanded "Royal" version of the game some time in the near future.I'm guessing 8-10 years...
The ONLY canon romance btw
i'm also in september, what is the right order to stuff since i'm not going in this volcano like anon lol.
>>499870760I bet she's tight as a garden hose.
>>499892951I killed him in a single hit with samurai strohl on hard, my tip is to just rape him with high crit physical moves I guess
Is there any class that has a "applies attack boost at start of fight" passive to proc the MP regen when buffed from wizard?
>>499895867Yeah there's a few
>>499895867some armors and accessories do at least
Vidyartha bros is this the single best support skill in any Atlus game period??
>>499895928>>499896002can it be acquired from any archetypes to inherit?
>>499896073It's a bit of a grind but dark knight flawless is a pretty great passive, straight 1atk 1def 1agi from the start that can be brought to a 3atk with someone's general skill
only seanigs use vidyartha
>>499895242I was getting shitloads in the bounties, dragon towers, and random quests in the last 30 days. I just got 50k clearing the monsters in the forest bounty just putzing around
I better not use vidyartha because some faggot anon might call me a seanig if he finds out
>>499895867knight has defense, I think swordman line has offensive, thief line has evasion, but mostly you can just use gear.
>>499896054It's inverse War Cry, but I still hold on to Debilitate because a miss > lower damage, especially in press turn, and not even considering Heismay.
>>499896054yes, I am going to go back to SMTVV after this and I am going to be sad (I'm in the second area, took a break because I had other stuff to play and I beat the OG game)
>>499896440oh did the chimp chimp out over something new? It was 'canon builds' and 'strength builds are cheating' two days ago, and yesterday was 'using charge is cheating'
>>499896527>inverse War CryShit, I meant better War Cry.
>>499896527combine them, with Big V first. You'll like the results.
70 hours and my main takeaway was an insatiable yearning for a fairy wifethank you atlus
Heismay>what I expected>what I got
>>499897107Heismay being as great as he was not something I'd expected at all.
>>499897107Disappointed we have no wakka in this game. He could have his own Royal wizard class.
>after I unlocked the Royal Classes I had to check to make sure the game was still on hard because it's a joke nowI guess they weren't expecting you to carry around a stack of 90 leaves but of course you were going to to when you know there's all those unlocked 3rd tier ??? classes on the tree
>>499897107it's befitting of this clown world
>>499897512Heismay's pretty racist with paripus
>>499897734yeah and it made Retardera seethe when they were all>le hekkin wholesome bat dad tee hee at firstA+ effort from Atlus, I love it
>everyone's social link is maxed>Bas is at 3my man, what are you doing
>>499897937They're not Social Links, they're Bonds.
anyone using Hulkenberg at end game? How did you set her up. I got pic related, but got MAG to get whatever I need if I should change it. I don't really ever use the heal or Dekunda, but they're pretty much 'oh shit' buttons you're glad you have when you need them. Dunno if the other counters stack with Omni, but probably not right
>locked out of my game because DENUVO CAN'T AUTHENTICATE DEVICE, WAIT 24 HOURSFUCK DENUVOFUCK DENUVOFUCK DENUVOPIECE OF SHIT SOFTWARE
>>499898403Get fucked piratechud
Is growing seeds in the runner a waste of time?
>>499896527I do vidyartha turn 1 and then spam debilitate anytime it's my debuffers turn again. Easy -7 at least and most bosses are too retarded to use dekunda even on hard. Even if they do use dekunda it only takes 2 actions to get them -7 again which is kinda unprecedented in an atlus game. It usually takes a couple full party turns minimum to setup like that in the other games.
Did I brick my MC going str/mag hybrid and not putting any points into anything else?
>look at first trailer for fun again after beating the game>final dungeon, Basilio crying over Del dying, Zorba powering up for his final fightI'm sure glad I didn't comb over over bit of pre-release footage and images with this game.>>499898581Mostly yes, but there's an ingredient tied to it that randomly shows up.
>>499898741no but mid game might be a little rough. I've found magic stat doesn't add all that much to low and mid tier magics so maybe just stuck with mage.
>>499897734That changes when he hears the actual reason why they went feral.He even remarks to Bas that he doesn't hate him.Wakka meanwhile is just al bhed bad because muh yevon and it takes what is practically the head of yevonism itself telling him everything he believes is bullshit to start to break his anti al bhed outlook. Both have reasons to believe what they did but one is on a completely different level.
>>499898830What should my stats look like by the end ideally so I know what to focus on in the future? I'm still only level 35 (just reached Virga) so there's still quite some ways to go.
>>499898392I did pretty much the same. I gave her the Utilitarian's Manual so she could use the skill that nullifies a non-almighty attack for the party too. Felt like she could have been in a better spot, but she got me through the game.
>>499899032I did all phys and then agility when I hit 80 STR and prince's magic light attack still hit hard for me at 24 magicIf you push one to 70 and then push the other it'll be fine and you can use both of Prince's good moves or even elemental master because it's good
>>499898403Could you refund it by providind support with evidence of the error? That'd be funny.
>>499899127yeah that's what I did, it basically lets junah cast her two round debuff festival, both my phys dudes to power up, and the the boss loses his turn and I charge and one shot him next round it's a really damn good move
>>499899295So I should've ignored mag in favor of str + another stat? Damn, I don't wanna start over
>>499895287artist source?
What's the ideal order to engage with the dragons?Any tips?
>>499899517you don't have to, as I mentioned Prince is a hybrid class. Just focus one for now until it hits 70-80 and stick with an archetype for that stat.
>>499899632what about agility? I assume end and luck are dump stats
>>499899374I'll just refund. I only have like 5 minutes into the game anyway. whatever
>>499899847Agility is whatever, it's nice but not super godly, and luck is free from the toilet (take a shit every day ending in 0 or 5)
>>499899518Sephykyun, they're on bsky, not xitter
>>499899948I feel pretty bad about missing a couple of those points but it is what it is
>>499899992damn I keep forgetting that there are people who actually moved to bsky, thanks anon
Do you buy into Louis = Lucifer, or think it's just a coincidence/forced?
PC bros have any of you gotten CreamAPI to unlock the costumes?? I tried it out and it's not working with Metaphor but I might be retarded. I want Eupha's cute summoner outfit but I'm not giving jewlus $5. Also it's really lame the costume tab only appears when you've bought the DLC I was hoping the base game would have costumes too, like Hulkenberg's Project ReFantasy armor
>>499900050It won't matter end game, you'll have 50+ in every stat anyways from random archetype bonuses
>>499900050I had 99 strength, 99 magic, and 99 luck, plus 70+ in the other 2 stats by the endgame at level 80, I did master all the archetypes on MC though
>>499900179It's definitely not a coincidence, but I don't think it's literally meant to be him, it's just a reference. The reference is very clear though.
>>499890291Is this guy still alive? I keep thinking he'll die of raising his blood pressure so fucking heart one day his own heart will not be able to take
I wanted to go to sleep but I ate a whole jar of olives so I kinda need to wait for my stomach to settle fuck grinding it is
>>499900179He's not the literal Lucifer but very obviously referenced in every aspect of his design. I think the most glaringly obvious thing that sets it in stone is not his archdemon form, but his first human form because referencing something so specific like the three-headed satan has to be on complete total purpose.
>>499899948Agility is the best stat. Ninja passive with dodger's ring makes you invincible.
>>499900784He should collaborate with this guy.
>>499895287But Bas was in love with Rella and is still grieving her
>>499900969I think the more obvious giveaway is the 8 wings in the archdemon form.
>>499901341Not when I'm done with him
>>499901296>wasting all those stat points and a 30k mag passive, and an accessory slot>or have Hulk cast 1(one) spellhmmmmmmmm
>>499883409>idol>doesn't even wax her hairy Roussainte earsWhat a lewd woman, she probably does compensated dating.
Basilio is a nigger...
>>499901341Being there to care for Bas in his time of need and developing a meaningful relationship with him that eventually blossoms into something more intimate!
>>499901494It's the only way of beating the superboss and lv90 final boss without hoping for counters, using food, or using the repel accessories.
>>499901321who the fuck watches this shit
>>499901321He's so british.
>>499901863The one where he's an amputee who discovers he's going to be a father is pretty kino
>>499901765I beat it without doing any of that and even so farming spoonfuls is easier than doing all that pointless shitI would not have wanted to do that fight without a 99 STR PrinceGOD
>be me in final dungeon on hard>use all the floating platforms>oh cool a boss rush!!>absolutely rape all the bosses, 1 shotting all of them with hero cry setups>nice little power trip boss rush gimmick game!!>get to true final boss>kill him in 1 attack with a 70k crit>achievement for killing him doesn't pop>you gotta ignore the boss rush mode to get the true final boss WHY ATLUS WHY IS IT ALWAYS 2 STEPS FORWARD 1 STEP BACK
What the fuck causes these bullshit dragons to just give themselves 6 turns? I hate this turn adding and removing bullshit it shouldn't be in the game at all beyond hitting weaknesses
>>499902095Did you even read?
>>499903129>What the fuck causes these bullshit dragons to just give themselves 6 turnsThey're fucking dragons.
>>499903129Motaphor Re Fantazio
>Critical Trade>Diligent DisciplineAny other way to boost base Crit chance or do you need to always use Rebellion?
I like Hulkenberg's EO outfit more than her normal one.
Should I just stay Tycoon for a str/luck build?
I really like the game but man I wonder what could it have been if it wasn't in dev hell for like half a decade. I always get sad when I finish an Atlus title like this because I'm 33 now and I'll be like fucking 45 when Metaphor 2 comes out. I was mid twenties when P5 released..
>>499904000Her normal outfit is fucking terrible so that's not saying much.
So LouisWhy does he get an archetype form that just looks like him but slutty and all of yours look like other things
>>499904953because he's a gay and gays are hedonist sex fiends
>>499904953Royal Sceptre shenanigans.
The Dragon Temple took me 6 hours to clear cause I spent so long dicking around
>>499904000Thanks for sharing nobody asked
They put too many brown people in this game
Junah is a disgusting slut
>>499904953He says that it's an elevated Archetype power the protagonist has not yet uncovered
>>499907332She didn't fuck Louis bro
>Kill fucking ELEGY OF SOULS>1650 Archetype EXPThis game is such a fucking joke lmao
>>499908498> Kill a giant golden tooth in the final dungeon > 7k Archetype EXP and 40+ Heroes Leaves of Light
can you not inherit summons? eupha has summoner mastered and i just unlocked devil summoner, but none of the summons are on the inherit skill list
>>499908772They (the archetypes, not the character) have separate summoning lists.
Fine>>499909635>>499909635
>1.2m without even really using merchantWhy is money such a non entity in this game?
>>499901706>>499901482Based basfuckers
