'tis but a scratch edition>Stuff1d6chan: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Total_War:_Warhammer/TacticsRoll Charts: https://imgur.com/a/81snQma>Total War: Warhammer IIISteam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1142710/Patch 5.3 dev blog: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/33-total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-5-3-dev-blogHotfix 5.2.7: https://community.totalwar.com/wh3-hotfix-527>Total War: Three KingdomsSteam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/779340Patch notes 1.7.2: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/779340/view/3677786186780517944>Older TitlesSteam: https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/TotalWar-Official/Remember to ignore CA shills.Previous thread: >>499674972
Be a good person
i love my retard bacon king
Thanquol soon, friends!
>>499880526Same here. I'm tempted to do another run with him and use Sharts, I haven't used Sharts this year and I've done about 6 Dookie campaigns this year. I particularly like his VA work, they done a great job with him.
>>499674972>>499674972>>499674972OLD
>>499880435>Dynasties removed from the OP for three (3) threadsBASEDFuck that garbage ass sloppa and fuck every shill, I said for so long that Pharaoh is dogshit and nobody plays itIt doesn't DESERVE a spot in the OPEven chinks are better than pharaohniggers
Big fan of princesses
Sisters....where is /gsg/?
>>499883715In hell where it belongs
>>499883690I'm a fan of elf girls in general
>>499882207But the OP got it right?
legend has a wife, he is rich and he is whiteand YOU are making fun of HIM?lollmaostinky brown chud, thanks for the superchat
>>499882684>Even chinks are better than pharaohniggersI wouldn't go that far.
>>499884162based
>>499884162>>499884860built for RAT men
>>499886664No-furs weak!
Good afternoon, for those that missed it, the Khorne generic lord is confirmed to be the "Bloodspeaker".
when is the new patch
>>499888670only when necessary
>>499880435>Remember to ignore CA shills.>Steam link to an unfinished chinese game in op.Great, that will show them. Fucking retard.
I'll unfuck the OP next thread.
>>499889227What do you want to see in the OP, then?
>try playing Chorfs>get raped by Grimgor and his waagh stackIt was turn 8 and he had like 5 units of black orcs.
Greeks could have ruled the wo-ACK!
What did Alarielle mean by this
>>499889630Rome Remastered would have been better choice since it's getting updated by a Feral every year or two.Also they are releasing the Android port of the Empire Total War as well.CA killed 3KTW before delivering horsefucker DLC and non-canon Lost Legion
>>499889975He does that. You started going east, right? Try to get him in an ambush. The waaagh won't be with him then. During battle I usually bait him to follow one of my heroes, then nuke him with blunderbusses.
With Vilitch should I push into Cathay first or stick to going through the Wastes and getting as many Dark Fortresses as possible?
time to give the chorf shits a taste of their own medicine
>>499890645i usually get 3 dark fortresses in the wastes before i breach the wall. There are 2 fortresses on the other side of the wall, which brings it up to 5.
>>499891289This doesn't seem optimal
>>499891498doesn't have to be optimal, it works. They got cooked so hard their bodies exploded.
>>499882684I can understand Troy saga since it's connected to founders of the Rome but Why Pharaoh TW was a thing anyway? Nobody is interested in that shit except wewuz crowd who don't even play strategy vidya.Also you can't make me buy another Total War unless you get Jeff&Angela van Dyck, and James Vincent on board once again. (Saki Kaskas can't come because he offed himself in 2016 iirc)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UApsdueSYQ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYtWFwG31kshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBiefIgzDaU
>>499886664But Rats are custom built as rocket stabilizer? Silly porn addict furry.
>>499891826that poor ratto didn't deserve that :(
>>499891689Creative Assembly now operates entirely out of spite for their customers. For the past decade, they've flat-out refused to make historical games in settings that people actually want.
>>499892006He was doing his duty. How else are we going to get to Mars?
>>499891826>stablizerdo you even know what that means, esl retard? rhetorical.
the webm is simply too powerful...
>>499890640I was playing Astragoth. One of my friends told me that I needed to rush Grimgor ASAP but when I went east I got my ass kicked. The terrain was terrible and he had a catapult so I had to go to his units instead.
>>499892618>stablizerOH NO NO NO NO
>>499880435Does Total War work on steam deck okay?
>>499891826>antiratfags post gore to prove how unhinged they aredisgusting
>>499892756makes them seethe every time
>>499892097>Don't make Empire 2 despite you mastered the gunplay in FoTS>Make Rome 2 in haphazardly, causing way hard blunder than the rushed ETW>Try to salvage things up with the Attila, by making Barbarian Expasion Pack 2: Electronic Boogaloo a full priced game.>Game penalizes you for doing good, lotta restrictions etc>Modders somewhat saved the day again, and Age of the Charlemange DLC was pretty good>Only memorable thing was Legendary WRE>Guise our small family going bankrupt we are doing hail mary with Warhammer as you've suggested>Holy shit this prints literally cash, time say goodbye historyfags! You have your SAGA meme games every other times as tax deductions!>FF later 3KTW hits, become another cash cow, but they fucked it up. Then pulled the plug and historyfags>FF Troy and Pharaoh tax deductions>Oh and WH3 turned out to be buggy mess (suprise!suprise!) but "modders will fix it amirite guys??">CA soon fucked up royally by putting a hefty amount on unfinished WH3 DLCs' price tag>They pulled "Take it or leave it" and threatened there would be no future content (like what happened with 3KTW) if they don't buy it>This caused even the most sweaty GW cock-sucker neckbeard to launch a boycott campaign and called CA's bluff>CA gave in and apologized>Still no meaningful news about history front except CA training their Sofia branch by making them to release the Dynasties update for their Pharaoh tax deductionsAnything that I missed?
>>499893105I agree it's good to rush Grimgor, but you may want a few extra Chaos Dwarf Warriors if you're still learning the game. They will outclass everything Grimgor brings except for black orks, but that's what shotguns are for. Did you give up or are you still fighting?
>>499894565I decided to restart the campaign cause I was still early in. I guess it will be a trial by fire.
>>499894860
>499880823huh?
>>499894860LLs for this feel?
ITS UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJgr5htcvZUAttila is the worst and it's not even close imo.
>>499894272>ratfags spam gore of squire every OP
>>499895054Mark Anthony
>>499894792it's good practice. Let us know how it goes
>>499895054The anon who posted that, showing that he's literally butthurt.
>>499894551theyre making 40k atleast that should be fun
>>499895071>He doesn't like spending 45 min in the battle grinding endless stacksfucking casual
>>499895120I'll probably get fucked at least half a dozen times. I need to learn about formations and micro.
>>499895152One thing I don't understand is how the map will look. WIll it be in space, with planets instead of cities, or will it be played on a single planet?
>>499895449i think it will just be fighting on one planet, but theyll make the planet important somehow, like it has some thing that everyone wants
Quality thread. Worthy of nu-/twg/.
>>499895152>40kHow the fuck that's gonna work?Are they gonna copy Stellaris and implement Pajama Guardmanii that even could wipe Space Marines given they positioned correctly?
>>499895560But that means Roc/Vortex style of map not immortal empires. Wouldn't be much better to make another IE map which they can expand in future games?
>>499895634they just wont put any broken units in the game, same as how tww1 had a lot of units left out
>>499895071He says>5th worst is Attila>4th worst is Empire: Total War>3rd worst is Troy>2nd worst is Thrones of Britannia>1st worst is PharaohYou're welcome, don't give shills your views.
>>499895710i think they wont make future games, theres more shekels in the tww3 system of 9001 dlc packs
>>499895752>No broken unitsWhere's the fun? Fuck the MPfags.
>>499896018i mean broken in lore terms. they wont balance correctly as usual
>>499895784Thank you for your service.>1st worst is PharaohFucking really? Wtf is wrong with that kangaroo fucker?
>>499895784Damn, I thought that Attila was genuinely a good game and I liked it about as much as Rome 2.
>>499894551>>Don't make Empire 2 despite you mastered the gunplay in FoTSThe funniest thing is how they made Warscape specifically for gunpowder battles and then proceeded to abandon gunpowder games after Shogun 2. No, Warhammer's """"""guns"""""" don't count.
>>499896123>I mean broken in lore terms.Ain't GW broken their very own lore by ignoring Sisters of Battle just to shoehorn women into Space Marine/Centurion ranks while ago?
>>499895784Pharaoh still buck breaking him I see.
>>499896302Same. I like it for 2 reasons>best sieges (many of which are defensive)>best vikingssimple as
what do you do when the dwarves outnumber you, outrange you, and outgrind you in melee
>>499894860what is that?
>>499897014embrace the lizardkino
>>499897014Fix in melee, then nuke them with spells
>>499897014call the guy youre playing against a manlet
I saved Boris from certain death. I gave Boris 12 settlements.We are allies.We defeated the Ever-champion, Lord of the Apocalypse, together. Now Skarsnik, a fucking goblin, declares war on me. And Boris JUST FUCKING BAILED? HOW THE FUCK IS THIS WHAT BREAKS OUR ALLIANCE? YOU FUCKING BITCH. YOU'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE OF ME AND NOW YOU SPIT IN MY FACE BECAUSE YOU'RE SCARED OF A FUCKING GOBLIN????I will dedicate a whole chapter in the great book of grudges just for this pathetic cunt of a manling.
I bet that generals have got into fights in the war room.
>>499896379Hence why missile units (beside guns) and combat in warscape engine feels weak. In comparison, you literally could goon off when your archers or cavalry mows down the enemy in RTW.
>>499891447Should I let Zartan have The Volary (Dark Fortress site) or commit to war against him? Seems like I’ll be stuck for some time fighting against him and for some reason Auto Resolve seems to hate Tzeentch’s melee units.
>>499897394Never have allies, only vassals, and even then only if you are chaos.
>>499897394gobbed.com
>>499897394Kislev AI is bugged with their alliences. They will almost always refuse to join both offensive and defensive wars.
>>499897546Caesar? Bantz with his slaves and forgiving his enemies.Octavian? Brolove with his nigaa Agrippa
>>499897394Kislevites are biologically indistinguishable from grobi
>>499897394>Trusting SLAVes even in FantasyLmao your fault.
>>499897786It's best to commit to war and subjugate him. Take the Volary and let him sit with a small settlement as your pet. In battle you have better units. Remember you can give yourself chaos spawn using unholy manifestations.
>>499897546Did they wear underwear under their skirts or were they glimpsing each others' cock and balls constantly?
>>499897014Who are you playing as?
>>499897014either build units that hardcounter dwarfs or start new campaign :---)
>>499899041skaven
oh no no no noahahahahaha
>>499899296>plays the numbers and range faction>gets outnumbered and outrangedWhat are you even doing?
>>499896302>>499896612I didn't play Rome 2 that much, why people hate Atilla again?
>>499899594?
>>499896302>>499899691i found attilla's general aesthetic worse than rome 2 and the anti player bias 'end of the world' theme ruins the sandbox quality of TW games>>499899890t. 80iq
>>499899691>worst optimization>excessive amounts of spearmen>can feel more like a survival game than an empire building game
>>499899890It's another pharaoh bad everything above good post.
>>499899594>Chinachads are resurfacing>Romebros are climbing one by oneI told you fags that CA missed the big jackpot by not making the Lost-Legion DLC
>>499899595>What are you even doing?im not playing a broken faction
What will be the starting factions in TW W40K?
>>499899594>TW2 still that strongHonestly pretty cool. Much simpler and in some respects, still better than TW3.
>>499900656TauLeagues of VotannCraftworld EldarCustodes (Female)Sisters of Battle
>>499900656Space MarinesOrksImperial GuardChaos Space MarinesDaemons of ChaosAdeptus Mechanic (pre-order race)
>>499896302Yeah, sucks I will have to hate it now because of an e-celeb.
>>499900656Space Marine (blue)Space Marine (grey)Space Marine (white)Space Marine (yellow)Chaos Space Marine (purple)Chaos Space Marine (red)Chaos Space Marine (green)Chaos Space Marine (blue)OrkZ
Assume another trilogy. You always need at least 1 big good and 1 big bad race per game.Warhammer 40k 1 can have Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines.Warhammer 40k 2 can have Eldar and Dark Eldar.Warhammer 40k 3 can have Tau and Tyranids.Lots of races and factions to work with if Warhammer 40k Total War does come to fruition.
>>499900140Legit points, your settlements still look like shit (i.e arena squalor) even if you made all the upgrades and sure that city is prospering.You are on the Spearmanii as well (I blame M2TW on that). RTW on the other hand had many spearmaniis yet many of them felt distinct.
>>499886983hmmm what's a bloodspeaker? google only show aos minis
>>499901035I assume we will get daemons at launch due to the large amount of assets already made for 3.Space Marines are a given, Chaos space marines probably 99% because they can just add spikes, tentacles and eyes to the models.
I don't believe marines will be a playable faction. More like an hero unit imo.
>>499901143I never cared about the spearmanii problem because i almost exclusively played norsemen, so 90% of my army is axemen and swordmen. I counter spearmen with my army comp, which lets me beat 3 armies at once, and that's fun. I've had Housecarls get 1k kills in melee
>>499901372If this was old 40k, that'd be correct. But now marines are so fucking common and abundant, they're their own faction and not some rare/secret special elite force to aid imperium anymore. They'd have like primaris being shit like heroes instead.
YASSSSSS KWEEEENNNNN
>>499901968I don't care because she's pretty
>>499901198Lord level cultist.
Does the blood speak back?
>>499884503I know
>>499902476intestines throb blood whispers
father i quoted the wrong post.my skull for your pardon
I wish there were more LLs with pets, like Skarsnik and Gobbla.
80 turns and I couldn't get a sngle fucking thunderbarge
>>499903984Neferata might have a cat.Glottkin will have his 2 brothers on top of him.Nagash will have Mannfred.
>>499903984if you play bretonnia so much of them have horses horses are pets
can't even see the enemy when they're covered by a wave of blunderbuss fire
>>499904736sounds like a growth issue
>>499900591youre already playing the broken race, you stupid faggot, you dont need dlcs to have broken units, most of your vanilla shit is broken
>>499903984i wish skarsnik and gobbla was 1 unit with 2 separate entities
>>499895120Grimgor showed up with another 40 unit stack because waagh is a fun and balanced mechanic.
Tamurkhan reduces your leadershipTamurkhan destroys your wallsTamurkhan decreases your weapon strengthTamurkhan refuses to dieTamurkhan steals your life
>>499908334ambush them and for some reason the waaagh army isn't there. probably a bug that CA can't fix. or just AR them with high-armour armies. greenskins are a joke.
>>499908334waagh armies should have leadership penalties fighting against any faction but the waagh target
>>499908524you forgot Tamurkhan drops chaospoopgoblins from the sky
>>499908334Location + formation. Use the map to funnel the greenskins into a blob, then blast it with magic and shotguns.
>>499908601I literally cannot. I was in ambush stance and he found me every single time. >>499908704It's fun when you play Orcs but anyone with half a brain cell can see why letting someone double their armies for free would be a problem. It's worsened by the blatant cheats the AI has anyway.
>>499909045If you destroy the first army, the waaagh reinforcements have so little leadership they just run away if you snipe their commander.
>>499901035Each game of the trilogy might be inspired by certain events from the lore.For example, if the first game is about Tyranid invasion in Ultramar then you'll get Space Marines, Tyranids, Tau and some other race (Necrons or Aeldari)The second game could be inspired by Armageddon wars: Astra Militarum, Orks, World Eaters, Grey KnightsAnd the third game will be about 14th Black Crusade of sort aimed at Terra itself. Chaos Space Marines, Sisters of Battle, Adeptus Custodes etc.
Gahh I hate fighting vampires, every fucking time swarms of bats going after my Hellstorm crews just to try and deprive me of a unit I can't replace until lategame.
>>499910084that's why you have a unit babysit the hellstorm battery. You knew the bats were coming. Why not prepare?
>>499910084Bro your net?
>>499910542One unit isn't enough when the enemy has like six swarms of bats making a beeline to them.>>499910548You mean Amyntok or whatever? Already have three wizards in this army though.
FUCK SKIRMISH MODE
twg said the dlc was coming this month, now all i see is some boring ass patchwhat happened?
>>499899041Don't listen to the other retard, I was playing as Malekith, just finished up with the rats then Grombrindal declared war on me and sent a stack and a half to the altar. I didn't have time to upgrade to shielded darksharts so his quarrellers and thunderers deleted them
>>499901542>spams horsefuckers with armorpiercing ammonothing personell, kiddo.
>>499882684I'm gonna add it back next thread just to spite you retards because you're seething so bad.
>>499911516Might as well add Rome-Remastered and Fall of the Samurai as well since that was the last great title.Jokes aside Feral doing mobile port of the Empire now, hope they update the desktop version as well.
>>499911637I'd love to add every game to the OP if it didn't take up so much space but the fact of the matter is Pharaoh is the last historical game released and is the one that got updated most recently too, leaving it out of the OP and seething about it constantly is autism, pure and simple. No other general has this issue that I know of.
>>499901968Kislevite girls need big Reiklander men to handle them.
>>499908021But he's playing skaven?
>>499912350yes, skaven have one of the more broken vanilla rosters, thats only gotten better over time because furfaggots wouldnt stop bitching about how they dont know how to play the game
>>499911374They will release it as late as possible in december.
>>499912746Skaven is the weakest faction in the game.
Anons have you called or talked to your mom lately?
>>499912978Cope ratfag, you're just incredibly bad at the game.
Total War: Hawk Tuah!
They can't move on until Ind and Khuresh are added to Warhammer 3.
They will move on without even discussing Ind and Khuresh.Literal who lore fluff """factions""" never ever
>>499901198Bloodspeakers are mentionned to be "Khorne demagogues" in the Warthmongers unit entry (from ET books).
>>499913280?Just stating facts, why are you mad?
>>499913595If you can't win with the most broken spell in the game and nukes, you're bad at the game, that's the actual fact.
>>499913805>one subfaction is the entire faction Do you even play the game?
>>499912978>>499913595skill issue
>>499914089Lol there's also warp lightning, any number of the other insanely good units and OP faction mechanics for all the other skaven factions. Once again, mad because bad ratfag.
>Skaven are a weak factionlol lmao even
So, Ulric is Sigmar's god? Why do people worship Sigmar instead of Ulric then? And why is Ulric okay with his follower having his own worshippers? Is godhood like a multi level marketing scheme where the gods higher in the pyramid take a cut from the lower ones?
>>499914089Why would anyone play a Skaven besides Ikkit? They're all disgusting rats but at least Ikkit is a disgusting rat that lets you have fun dropping nukes on the enemy.
>skaven are a weak factionholy fuck how bad can someone be
>>499914662Throt can do weird things with hellpits and other monsters they have.
>>499914460How come so many pharaohs and emperors got deified? Shouldn't the people just worship the gods they worshipped?
>>499914460This nigga doesn't understand polytheism LMAO
>>499914089Ikit is extra broken for sure, but all the skaven factions have access to weapon teams and artillery. And you can spawn rats on the enemy artillery. And you can have one or two invisible vanguard deployed rats to assassinate their artillery
>>499914925That's illegal here in the US
>>499914460Sigmar is literally like if Conan, after being king for some years, becomes a god by itself.Would people pray Crom or god-Conan ?
>>499908524Some unhinged retard tried to claim that Malus is stronger than him.
>>499904736>Late game unit is available late in the game
>>499915402I'd say they're pretty much on par with each other. Tamurkhan is such a big target, 2-3 shotgun units can just delete him.
>>499904736I figure if you want to use high tier units you really need to be maximizing growth in your starting province from the very beginning.
>>499914929Don't forget they can ambush enemies in their standard movement stance. Which was given to Aleaf and that alone makes him one of the strongest high elf factions. Only being set back by that he can't even have green territory in Ulthuan.
>>499904736Dwarf growth is meh but just having 3 buildings of it in Karaz A Karak gives you plenty of time to get to max unless you get raided a lot.
>>499916237very good point. Get a hero with ambush trait and some blue skills on your lord and you're already pushing 90% ambush chance.
>>499895120Alright further further update, I'm about 35 turns in and have 2 and bit provinces. The great Grimgor menace has been stopped for now, I managed to wipe out Grimgor's infinite armies with Astragoth but it came will the small downside of my entire army dying. My only ally so far has been Tamurkhan and together we managed to bring Grimgor down to one settlement. Then the fucking vampires and another chaos dwarf faction declared war on me and began taking my home province so I had to rush back whilst Maggotman got raped by Boris so we didn't have a chance to fully wipe him off the map. I hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the ass. So far all I can say is the unit cap sucks and the only real fun I've had is in the smaller scale fights, probably a skill issue on my part but even 20vs20 ends up crowding the screen and blocking blunderbuss shots.
>>499918214should have built your first factory sooner :---)Luckily your faction is really strong vs the undead because you have lots of fire. No idea how you got into a war with another chaos dwarf faction. Especially as Astragoth. Unlucky.
>>499911849If you would consult the charts.>>499899594
Legendary grudges and books of nagash are useless mechanics because no one ever completes them
Off topic but if anybody is interested Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2 is only 4 bucks on steam right now.
>>499919326Silence!They are ok mechanics but I just don't have the patience to do a campaign that last more than 100 turns.
>>499919818Where am I going to find four gay black men?
>>499919884kektry dragon ball threads in /a/
>>499919054Still the most recent game you dumb faggot. Once again, no other general has a meltdown this hard about games in their series to the point they have to put a crying disclaimer in the OP too.
>>499920474I don't know, man. It sounds like you're upset that nobody played your game and you're forcing others to try to like it. The numbers aren't even close. 6 times as many players for 3K.
>>499920474>two months from now>pharaoh has 5 players>histokek who spent 12 months saying it's not a saga title and that bronze age is a popular setting keeps putting it in the OP>BUT ITS THE MOST RECENT!kwab
doesn't matter how many people play the game as long as you're having fun :)
>>499920894No one is being forced to buy any video game at gun point, every other general still puts the most recently updated games in the OP. I wouldn't have even noticed it was removed if you retards didn't not only remove it but also still somehow mention it at the beginning of the thread apropos of nothing.
>>499921029Nobody is stopping you from having fun. The OP is meant to be a general consensus of the player base.
>>499921329i truly don't have an opinion on that
LORE OF METAL!*unloads M60 on peasants*
>>499918969>should have built your first factory sooner :---)You live and learn. Are there any army comps you would recommend? I'm not sure whether to start sinking armaments into getting infernal guard or continuing with warriors.
Finished taking care of things in Cathay as Gelt, which way Western mang? Back towards Empire or the Lustriabowl?
>>499921954I get a bit of both. Infernal guard for holding the front, with warriors to hold flanks when needed.
>>499899594>gook shit still at place 2 somehowit's over
>>499921986I'm playing him too, stayed in Cathay but I have the Recruit Defeated LL cheat and it keeps giving me messages that the minor factions in the Empire are being wiped out. Kind of want to go back there and deal with whatever killed them once I wrap things up here but man, that's a long march.
speaking of OPs, we don't even have a guide written by members of the general about the merits of each game are, just a link to a wiki and a roll chart. so outside of the slapfights over what game should go in the OP, there's just nothing there. absolute shit tier general
>>49992303695% of discussion here is about the warhammer series. The others just aren't popular. Most of the histoids self-exiled to /vst/.
>>499922613Total Cathaywank is at 1 actually.
Has anybody itt actually played all the LL's that are in the game?I have all dlc but so far on top of my mind I have never played Beastmen, Cathay, Norsca, Champions of Chaos, Daemon Prince and many more...
>>499923210the point applies regardless of whether it's about multiple games or one game, you sperg, there's no recommended mod or faction write ups either.
>>499923352I have 2000+ hours and I've never played Lizardmen or Cathay. Just not interested. Tried High elves once and hated it. I play all the other races.
>>499923481>there's no recommended modWe don't use cheats here
>>499923481Because you're an independent person, think and look for yourself. Or discuss it herePreempting discussion is dumb and would slow down the thread
I want a faction that has god tier infantry, god tier cavalry, got tier artillery, god tier monsters, god tier missiles, god tier flying, god tier casters, and god tier AR so I dont have to actually play with any of that.Who do I play?
>>499925251Daniel
>>499923352I have never touched Bretonnia or Vampirates. Fairly sure I haven't played more than 5 rounds of any chaos faction.
>>499923210Well there hasn't been a succesful history game in a while. I remember when 3 Kangdoms came out Warhammer talk was pretty quiet.
>Legend still hates Total War Attila
>>499925894I will never forgive him.
>>499925894>"I dont like this game, everyone that plays it knows that the cheese is part of the default gameplay, especially as WRE. That means I can't flaunt how smart I am by running back and forth for half an hour before starting the battle."
>>499925894I have had 4 computers since Attila came out(one of them top of the line for 3000 euros) and none of them ran Attila good. I would love to play this game if I could.
>>499926338Works on my machine>rtx 3070>i7 12700
>>499926338I've got a custom rig using 4 4080titans wired up together and 256 gb of ram with a prototype AMD cpu made just last year and get a solid 53fps on the campaign map, sounds like you need to upgrade your system.
>>499925251WoC would be the closest from the sheer size of their roster.
>>499926572They've all been amd cpu so maybe that is the reason. But still. 3800x 2080super should run this game better. Fps are fine when the battle starts but once the units get in to a mosh pitframes thank to 20 and it lags so bad.
>>499926338Attila loads faster for me than Shogun 2 now.>t. 4070, 7800X3D and 32GB of RAM
>>499925894>>Legend still
>>499926981>7800X3DI envy you so much.
Why do people care about a bald retard's opinion on Total War games? Threadly reminder Volound won.
Legend is toxic for total war community. There, i said it and i'm not taking it back.
>>499927364Nothing that Volound says has a leg to stand on
>>499927364I agree with your first point. Volound didn't win though. Also aren't those 2 on friendly terms or did something change.
>>499927550They've bonded over their mutual hate of Pharaoh, before that they hated eachother due to vastly differing opinions on the Warhammer games.
>>499927364Volound is a third worldist Communist Scottish retard, who pathologically dislikes everything the West is doing. He is so unlikeable even other youtubers, who agree with him, dislike him, because he is extremely abrasive, autistic and ideologically a fanatic, even when it just comes to video game opinions.He also tried to cancel Legend for being a Fascist years after Legend already toned down what he says and became more careful and wholesome for his audience. He did this just because he felt underappreciated, because even reddit likes Legend now, but still hates Volound.Fuck Volound.
I think only of the Great Bastion.
>>499927550A long time ago they were in a long distance relationship with eachotheits a bit awkward between them nowadays as far as I understand it
I feel sorry for Volound. I hope he gets and excellent history game that he could enjoy and finally be in peace.
>>499928012oh ok I have never actually watched a single Volound video
>>499927943Volound said Putin will make communism real and force CA to hand its offices to the Scottish Soviets.
Playing clan Eshin for the first time and its super difficult for me, I cant even beat the siege in the orc capital. Any tips on what to do? Also is skirmish mode a meme on gutter/night runners?
If I take this and raid it until rebellion will my tree wife respawn? And will it give me the confederation quest again?
>>499928317>Eshin>OrcsHuh? You playing warhammer 2?Never put skirmish on units command them yourself it's taxing if you aren't used to micro but they will do better that way. With skirmish mode they will do stupid shit this is the case for all skirmish units.
>>499928465Yes. No.
>>499928762>Yes.yay>No.CURSESalso why is there no magical forest in kislev filled with hags
I strongly believe Sigvald and Alberic are the two most forgotten LL's in terms of how often people forget you can play as them or how many people have even played as them at all. I'd bet even an intentional joke like Tretch has more runs just for "challenge", or notoriously miserable campaigns like Nakai or Imrik. Maybe there are others that I'm forgetting
>>499928934Cylostra.
>open thread>ctrl+f>'volound'>0 results>close thread
>>499927972
>>499927972Thinking about your "Hellpit" too Miao.
My chorf campaign might be over bros. Boros managed to wipe out Tamurkhan and Archaon. Drazoath got killed by Greasus and to top it all off Grimgor is back with another waagh.
>>499929985>Bro didn't kill Grimgor outright as his 2nd thingBorus is easy to kill as chorfs, use your artilary and MELT THAT BEAR
>>499908601>ambush them and for some reason the waaagh army isn't there. probably a bug that CA can't fixThat's intentional because the WAAAGH army counts as reinforcements. You can also use Lightning Strike to fight only the main army
>>499931039I mentioned it earlier but I had to rush back when he had 1 settlement left. By the time I got back he had another legion set up.
>>499926307That was hilarious. Yeah, Attila does involve a lot of cheese but this is the same retard who put fucking Warhammer as his favorite game.
>>499931912Warhammer 3 is the best Total War game thougheverbeit.
>>499932082I like Warhammer 3 too but it is one of the cheesiest games in the franchise and it might be the peak of the AI being laughably retarded on the battle map. Only Empire really compares and that game was straight up broken.
That's why I would love that if W40k comes out , that game would have tabletop caps. I would completly fuck all the cheeser's. I would pay good money to watch Legend's reaction when he would found about it.
>>499932336Day 1 mod to remove tranny caps.
Gonna try conquering the world with Malekith. What sort of builds do the druchii run in WH3 and who do I want to ally with?
>>499932336>I would pay good money to watch Legend's reaction when he would found about it.Legend would love it, given that he praises Medieval 2 for encouraging diverse armies of less than optimal troops.
>>499932717>What sort of builds do the druchii run in WH3The exact same shit they have been running since WH2 release, Darkshart spam.>who do I want to ally with?Other Druchii, you will end up killing everything else.
The Silence & The Fury or Tomb KingsI'm getting one for free but I don't know which. I don't own Beastmen.
>>499933063TK unless you really want to play Beastmanii.
>>499933243I've fantasized about running a beastman rapeband across the continent, fucking every lord I defeat. But I guess TK is better value, huh. Maybe I'll just buy the other one. Man, actually buying DLC for this game feels bad.
>>499933436You can just creampie it like any rational person does.
>>499932717>What sort of builds do the druchii run in WH3Dreadspears/Darksharts or Shade spam. Add some cav to fuck up the Helf archers when you get to them >and who do I want to ally with?Mommy. Really any of the Delf factions except the minor ones that hate you.
>>499933063Silence and Fury. Taurox has the best start of abusing elves and all you miss by not having the DLC is confeding the other Beast LL's. You also get some good stuff for liggers if you think you'll play them
>>499932956Darkshards and blackguard for the frontline? >>499933576>ShadeAren't they strictly worse than darkshards?>cavAre cold one riders still terrible? Are the single entity units any good? I remember hydras being disappointing.
>>499933063>whichever one you really want to play the factions of moreIf you're a dinoautist you'd already own Silence so its clear you dont, and the lizard units aren't really anything special anyway. The Oracle is nice as a pocket healer and trogs are "okay" at single entity sniping but nothing is really groundbreaking.For beastmen its a big deal for access to their monsters they've been missing since they first released.TK gives you a whole new faction but its much more different from every other one and has fallen to the wayside since they released due to power creep.I'd say get TK just because its the most expensive and lets you try new mechanics. All face-off DLCs are there to sell you stuff for factions you want to enjoy already and since you dont own Beastmen already, I'd avoid Silence.
>legendhaters are always brainrotted porn addicts and/or discordtroonswhy is this?
>>499935210Because I still haven't forgiven him for the Kekistani Lithuania campaign.
>>499934025Shades have more range, better melee stats, and stalk over sharts.Cold ones are still terrible, but you use what you have. I've found dreadknights to be decent.I've found Kharbidyss to be really good at killing cavalry and mosters in blob fights. Medusas shred Infantry with their projectiles now, even after the nerf.
>>499936478>Shades have more range, better melee stats, and stalk over shartsThey don't have the shield though and Malekith buffs them more.>MedusaThey became useful? What would a typical composition in the late game look like?
>>499934025Shade's are good enough in melee that with redline you can viably run an army of them. Get the Greatsword varient since they have AP melee and bonus vs infantry, and snipe large targets before they engage in melee. Soften up dangerous melee units with magic. Congrats, you've got an army capable of fighting most lategame armies by like turn 10.
>>499937332>Malekith buffs them moreFor Malekith you can keep the sharts, it doesn't matter too much since once you get his dragon and magic he'll be killing half the enemy army on his own.
I almost never use hero actions, are there any that are worth paying a hero's upkeep and not having him in your army for?
>>499938960Not reallyAssassinations maybe? Very rarely, blocking an army is useful to catch someone being annoyingDamaging armies is basically completely useless because of replenishment existing and no population mechanics
>>499939146>Damaging armies is basically completely useless because of replenishment existing and no population mechanicsAssault Unit/Garrison lets you outright win otherwise impossible battles.Replenishment doesn't keep up with it, and the AI doesn't know how to counterplay it. You can park a hero outside a fully garrisoned settlement and just assault it every turn to lock down all the parked lords. And when you finally roll up their entire unit will be at 1% HP.
>>499937345Will I still use Har Ganeth executioners for my dedicated chaff killer? >>499937659>dragon and magicIs bladewind spam as effective as it used to be or do I use something else?
CA had a really funny oportunity for good advertisment if they had released the dlc in october. They could call it ORCTOBER release...(stole the name from the latest pancreas video about orks)
>>legendlovers are always brainrotted porn addicts and/or discordtroonswhy is this?
After playing dominions and warband I got myself a total warhammer game.What factions can work with a simple tactic of "archers behind the shield wall"? None of the available lords seems to give bonuses to these units.
>>499940030>archers behind the shield wallDwarves, Cathay, Elves.
>>499939960Because I still haven't found hate in my heart for him for the Kekistani Lithuania campaign.
>>499940030Elves
>>499938960A levelled up Assault Units/Garrison can wipe out half the army with one action. Assassinate is occasionally useful to eliminate important attached heroes like Necromaners
>pushing kairos out of the southlands as tiktaqto>capture the southernmost point and hand it to teclis because he already owns the other province settlement>start sending my armies north to help kroqgar>teclis must have sold the settlement or gifted it to kairos (or something else i havent played either of them) because kairos now owns the southernmost settlement and is coming back up
>>499938960If you're playing Kairos it's absolutely worth it because of the +20~40% success chance he gets (depending on the hero type).
>>499913453And that is the only place they are ever mentioned.
>>499914779Gods and their worshippers (chuds) may have had different ideas on some important social issues, so those gods needed equal competition.
>>499942313Kairos has the "Changing of Ways" ability that among other things lets him just give himself a settlement belonging to someone he isn't at war with every 10 turns with no repercussions. TZEENTCH'D
>>499942808AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I am going to play an Elspeth campaign once the update launches.
>>499913109sauce?
>>499943593Don't think that dog is barking as such, looks like it's being held up to a leaf blower blasting it in the face
ugh, what could have been...
>>499925894>>499880435Im grilling after UFC is over, but after that starting a new game as Caledonians on Legendary.
High Elf mage my beloved...I find it funny how empire wizard is a better caster nowadays only fire elf mage with her dragon might be more useful. But in casting empire wizard wins.
Ugh..If only....
>>499945906>>499945482Neat but doesn't muslim artwork look way different from the manuscripts that monks in europe drew?So shouldn't these scenarios have a different style.
>>499945527Man they should have used the Barbarian Invasion style Faction emblems rather than overly complex eyesores.Anyways any of you fags know do any Atilla modding? I want to change colors of some factions.
>>499946214>muslim>artworkYou mean scribbles?
>>499946214It has "one" ending but repurposed for each playable faction quite well.Maybe because of the monk manuscript artstyle which goes very well and actually quite easy to read (looking at you R2TW).Anyways, Charlemange DLC is quite fun and they even bring back some Med2 mechanics for experimenting. They shouldn't have gone with the SAGA gig but made Britannia a DLC for Atilla, however taxes ain't gonna evade themselves.
>>499884635>legend has a wife, he is rich and he is whiteand YOU are making fun of HIM?>lol>lmao>stinky brown chud, thanks for the superchatYeah I dunno 'bout that but thanks for the superchat.
>>499947579I think he meant something like this
>>499945649Don't worry, surely we'll get a high elf update that'll make them top dogs till the next rework.
>>499949376>"The High Elves look down their perfumed noses at all Humans, and they hate us. I'm going to give them a reason for hate...when I've crushed them! HUMAN steel, that's the answer; Human steel in the Brutal fist!"What did he mean by this?
>>499945649Don't they get some ludicrous bound spells if you recruit the high influence version?
Is Norsca worth playing in current year?
>>499952239I mean yeah you can get Urannon Thunderbolt and that one metal magic buff.Also incediary on fire mage is good.But Empire Wizard can get their magic cost and cooldown lower than their elven counterparts also that tech that lets you have more winds of magic per turn without going to channeling stance is busted. Which makes them better casters.Archmage is still better but shes a lord
>>499952979At least archmages are still one of the best caster lords in the game if not the best until next empire dlc with wizard lords of course.
>>499952461No, and considering how CA doesn't seem to care about them they never will be worth playing.
>>499952461Yes. Playing as Norsca marks you as a true psuedo historical gigachad.
>>499952461Norsca exists just to be cucked and vassalized by WoC now, just play those instead.
>Start siege battle with reinforcements>They come in.>Game freezes after a good 5 seconds with exception to me being able to move the camera around.What causes this and why hasn't CA fixed this?
>>499952461Norsca is strangely enough one of the strongest factions in the game, their port income is insane, tons of boosts to everything, and their units are all mostly good (except Fimir) so you can do whatever, even if Wulfrik encourages marauders/mammoths and Thorgrim wants you to do ice trolls. It's fun, but CA has already announced they will do changes here.
>>499955052Uninstall your cheats
>>499955197>ThorgrimH-huh?
Miao Belly Rubs!
>>499955495James Workshop doesn't want you to know this, but Thorgrim realised the Dwarfs are screwed and he uses powerful rune magic to disguise himself as Throgg, an ice troll, to try and earn money by robbing random people. That's why Thorgrim is said to be so eloquent, he's not given any gifts by the Chaos Gods, it's simply a Dwarf in disguise.
>>499955847My baby
>>499955319Which ones?
>>499955927Based N'kari.
Waywatchers unironically ruined my ability to enjoy any other archer unit. Darkshards feel like a bad meme in comparison.
>>499956045No N'kari is a worthless jobber.Malekiths little plaything
I noticed legendoftotalwar plays on normal battle difficulty. Why? Does higher diff not improve AI?
>>499956013AWWWWL YOR CHEATS SONNY!DON U KNOW DEM CHEATS ER FROM DE DEVIL?! TAKIN IN ALL DAT VILE DIJITAL CORRUPTION?! IT'S AGAINST CA'S PLAN FOR YOU CHILE!RECIVE DE VANILLA SPIRIT! AND SUBSCRIBE TO LEGEN AND I PROMISE YOU THE CRITICAL ASSEMBLY WILL WORK WONDERS IN YO CAMPAIGNS!CAN I GET A AMEN?!
>>499947738>Age of Charlemagne>Med 2 mechanicsWhat? As far as I'm aware the only mechanic it introduced to Attila is war weariness.
why does it seem like half of the players here auto resolve anything that isn't an easy stomp and the other half only wants to use completely braindead compositions?
>>499949002But in muslimstan it's forbidden to draw people, so this must've been made by someone else.
>>499958625Because that's the only fun way to play this shitty game.
I hope that the End Times expansion is real.
>>499958625I remember asking for advice on how to win battles that are stacked against you using superior tactics, and the general response was "just don't fight those and come back with a death ball".
is there a cheat that disables the cheat pixel? i have an oled and i don't want to risk burn-in.
>>499939557Bladewind for low armor, chillwind for high armor
>>499958697drawing lines all over the map with my piles of ants and pretending I'm napoopan is fun. putting your entire army on one control group and right clicking across the map is lame.>>499958818I watched a legend video titled "tactics are more important than stats" or something wondering if he would do something different than his usual ai abuse, but no, his "tactic" was just hiding his army in trees while he killed half of the enemy army with one flying wizard.
>>499959152Just use tape to cover up that bit of the screen
>>499959152Mine just disappeared one day, I think it's because once you get past 400 mods CA can't contain your power.
Want to play DEs>Black ark bugsWant to play the Empire >Gaining any mount takes away your movement range bugWant to play Bretonnia>Awful outdated campaignsIdk bros... love the game but there is always some little shitty thing that ruins the campaigns.
>Wurrzag going to the Southlandsere we go boyz, gots new gits to krump!
>>499959972That's crazy
>>499958625Shogun 2 taught me the smartest way to win is to win with the least amount of effort. You could play naval battles manually and lose your mind because of AI spam or you just spam Kanko Marus/Nanban trade ships.You could spend half an hour each turn on siege defence every turn or you just place 2-4 Shogitai everywhere, who can easily kill a full stack with the least amount of effort.You could have an extremely grindy campaign or you just stop conquering shortly before you reach Legendary Fame and build up your economy and a large war chest.Don't blame Warhammer for something that Shogun 2 taught us the hard way.
I swear to fucking god every time I've got my units positioned properly the game breaks and every single one of these fuckers starts running on top of each other. God forbid these worthless fuckers ranged units stay where I put them.
>>499958625>>499958818Personally my rule is if it's valiant defeat It's at least winnable. Then again you need to look at the roles of their units and the roles of yours. If you see a variety of matchups you could work in your favor you can pull out a win. Or alternatively if you see no real way to kill a certain unit, you can take the autoresolve win. >CompositionComposition people are poor generals and the first guys to auto resolve no matter what. They play boring armies and have boring battles because they only use 3 units in a 33 unit roster. That's not strategy, that's logistics pulling up with the best units is not a tactic. The best generals can win despite having bad units.Plus it's warhammer and armies look objectively better when diverse.>>499959467That's a legit strat. Fuck I respect that more than these "composition" retards.
>>499934025shade/hydra is a great army for when you need to kill an endless tide of cheap shit without getting whittled down
>>499959972There's mods to fix every single one of these.
>>499960557>only use 3 units in a 33 unit rosterI don't have mental capacity to juggle ten different units at once. I just want to put them into position and let them kill everyone.
>>499958625>auto resolve anything that isn't an easy stompThis seems backwards, manual control is what you do when you can't AR with minimal losses and no surviving enemy
>>499960846Anon you don't have to. You just have to know the basic roles units in these game have and group them accordingly. Here take a look at my army. It was randomly generated, BUT the groupings based on shared roles I have in my army. >Group 1 is my ground melee infantry. They're slow, they fight in melee, they can't fly. That's all that matters. I swarm these at whoever they can reach>Group 2 is my flying melee. They're fast, they fly, they fight in melee. That's all that matters. I send them at archers or other easy isolated targets>Group 3 is my ground ranged. They're slow, but they shoot so I line these guys behind the melee infantry and see if they can't shoot something.>group 4 is ground cav. They do the same as flyers, but they can't fly. They can cap stuff rather nicely though.> group 5 is skirmish cav they annoy melee targetslastly I got a IH there who shoots and casts spells, but can get show down rather easily.I just narrowed down a 20 unit army into a "6 unit" army without compromising manpower. If I need a specific unit to move I can move them, but if I need a general role's help I can move the entire group. Remember that units in general work best when they work together.
A reminder that CA Sofia is responsible for the Khorne portion of the next DLC.If Arbaal and Skulltaker suck... make sure to leave a negative review on Pharaoh.
Is the Empire considered a bad faction economically? Been trying to get into them but I keep running into money problems.
>>499963083No, they are slightly above average when it comes to economy. Are you building a second army on turn 2 or something?
>>499960375>Skirmish Mode is on by default I'm actually so fucking mad. Why is this a thing?
>>499960662Name the mod for>Gaining any mount takes away your movement range bugand i'll be a dirty cheater like the rest of you.
>>499963620Anon, you can change that in the settings and make itnoff by default
>>499963786I didn't know it was thing and kept thinking I had miss-microed my units. Is there any other setting like this that can ruin a battle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5DtDb2DNCoSLG's dad would beat up your dad (this is not opinion, this is fact)
>>499962965>Group 1 is my ground melee infantryWhat good are they if they don't have shields? Enemy will just shoot them to death.>Group 2 is my flying melee>Group 4 is ground cav>Group 5 is skirmish cavThese get stuck in enemy infantry after the first charge and die. I would get more use of infantry with shields for a much cheaper cost.>Group 3 is my ground rangedYou only need the most accurate unit, but otherwise yeah, I blob these behind my shields.
>>499963694Literally the community patch.
>>499963187No I'm on Turn 20 and still can't afford a second one...and that's with the 3500 gold I'm making every 3 turns by playing Gelt...
>>499963934Guard mode for is essential if you don't want to chase something done and want to hold ground
>>499955197>except FimirReally, the Fimir I used in Tamurkhan's campaign were probably my favorite units from the chieftain mechanic. Always performed well provided I kept them away from any AP anti-large.
>>499964346I checked that one's github. No mention of Black arks or any movement issue. Just a buch of label and number fixes.
>>499963934Its okay, ir was a relatively new additionJust customize it as you likeI used to play eith guard mice on by default but like i usually prefer having that default off noeadays
>>499964243this is the kind of player who complains he can't handle artillery or stop routing units from coming back
90% of units in Warhammer 40k will be hybrids.I hope that you guys like Kislev.
>>499964243>What good are they if they don't have shields? Enemy will just shoot them to death.>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THAT UNIT! IT DOSEN'T HAVE LE SHIELDERINO!Who gives a fuck? They're my biggest group. I have groups 2,4, and 5 working their way to mess around with anything shooting. Worst case scenario I move my MI out of range or better yet the one who took all the damage.>But they get le sticky cav!Choose your fights. That's why fast units are fast. think about numbers and then think about specialties like anti-inf or anti large. As long as you have enough oomph to get that unit to try to avoid you you can retreat before the spears arrive. If I have a cav group that's two guys strong Im not going to send them into the group of spears. Im going to chuck them at the archer unit far away from MI protection and make off like a bandit when support comes.>BUh buh that unit isn't the most accurate!Ok? Is it firing? Is it in danger of NOT firing? Does it need protection or to run away? All you need to care about is if it's shooting. Once it's done and out of ammo you throw it in the melee horde because that's all it's good for then.You're better than this anon.
>>499958625Autoresolve just gave me a decisive defeat as wood elves against Ikit Claw and I managed to turn it into a pyrrhic victory with only 2 units lost (1 got nuked I think). I've also been manually resolving a lot more battles, although that's partially the fault of the autoresolve underestimating wood elf units for some reason
>>499965839as long as the game's designed for it
>>499965839I'm guessing there will be squads with mixed ranged weaponry
>>499965839that's not really true. tau and guard have shit melee. orks have shit ranged. even most spacemanii aren't that good at shooting unless you are using some rule cheese to make them better. 40k meta where everyone important is armored but 90% of your army isn't allowed to have ap is kind of retarded so it will be interesting to see how ca would approach it.
>>499965724>stop routing units from coming backIt's really me. Very annoying, messes up my formations a lot.>>499966128>Choose your fightsAnother problem is that you rarely get favorable terrain and if you do, enemy will just take defensive position.I would appreciate an advise on dealing with enemy cavalry, it just goes around my frontline without engaging with spearmen.
Is it worth it to go the "intended"/story route as Trannykhan or should I just rush straight to the Empire?
>watched the 5 hour Legend campaign with Gelt just running around with 8 wizards on pegasus blobbing up and murdering with life, fire, and metal>no other factions can get flying heroes the right lores and 180+ WoM reserves or turn spirit leech into a generator>druchii can do similar but no life, chorf heroes are on big bulls and get shot and no life, asur don't get flying mages except fire, welves can get close but increasing hero cap is a painI know it's cancer and triggers the histoids but playing herohammer style is so gratifying
>>499900674It’s been nearly 3 years and sieges are still shit, we’re still missing ruin puzzles from 2 and the AI both on the map and in battles seem worse than they’ve ever been. The only thing I can really think of that’s undeniably better in 3 is simultaneous turns for co-op/head-to-head campaigns, allegiance system and access to the newer factions although the only one I’ve found to be fun are the Tzeentch ones plus Vilitch due to Changing of the Ways.
>>499970617>ruin puzzlesAbsolutely no one wants that shit back, and you know it.
>>499968146>dealing with enemy cavalryeither intercept it with your own cavalry or position your spearmanii so that it can't actually get to anything it would want to without running into your spears. really the entire game is about taking good trades while only presenting bad ones to your opponent.
>>499972159>position your spearmanii so that it can't actually get to anythingIf I encircle archer blob from all sides, my troops are spread too thin and vulnerable to enemy infantry. There are no good trades here.
>>499964243>What good are they if they don't have shields? Enemy will just shoot them to death.Anon. Shields do not protect against range fire 100% of the time either.
>>499972712if you want to make the box you need infantry that can trade well like dwarf warriors or jademanii.
>>499955197This. I don't think they need a rework but I can see how many people think they are too vanilla or stale. Would be nice to see a generic caster lord as the Marauder Chieftans only redeeming factor is the mammoth mount since they don't have much of a yellow line.
>>499970752True, but then why leave the ability for heroes to search them? The only purpose that serves it to find Skaven and with all the updates they’ve done players already know what to look for to determine if a ruin is infested with rats.
>>499973774>but then why leave the ability for heroes to search them?Because as has been shown numerous times CA is full of incompetent people.
>>499970617battle ai is a lot better than the days of brainlessly balling up the whole army on the first foot hero they run into
>>499968146>Another problem is that you rarely get favorable terrain and if you do, enemy will just take defensive position.That's fine. You need to adapt. That's what random armies forces you to do anon: adapt. Your strategy should be determined by the units you have, not the other way around. With most LFA ranged units you're going to have to put them in an area where they have targets, but not far enough away from melee units. Rarely will you get to choose your target so just line them up and get fishing. >enemy cavalry1. Pay attention. If you see an enemy with cav you make sure you know where they are at all times. You can pause the game for this.2. Don't let your ranged units too far away from melee units. Any melee unit will do, cav, inf but make sure they are close and can get there in time. 3. move the ranged unit AWAY from the attacking cav while moving your melee meat shield TOWARD them.4. Ideally large units work poorly in trees so while you want ranged units out of trees for obvious reasons, you also want the melee engagement IN the trees.
>>499974360>You can pause the game for this.This is considered a cheat.
>>499977470Your mom is considered a cheat.
Whoever designed that minor settlement battle (was a Cathay map originally) that's kinda shaped like a bean with two raised sections on either side and 4 main entrances at 90 degrees to each other - they should be sterilized.Whoever thought that map should go in Ulthuan deserves cancer of the eyes.
>>499978920Bro... Don't tell me you don't have the "minor settlement battle remover" cheat installed....
This is probably one of my cheats, but why are my fucking siege towers disappearing when I move them? If I move a siege tower on the deployment phase they disappear and leave the units inside floating.
>>499979516I did, but the thrilling promise of fighting a settlement defense map and winning is too strong. Yet even that never happens. In the very rare instance you get to fight one that isn't an obvious stomp, it's just aggravating as fuck. How did CA design the settlement battles to suck so hard no matter which side you're on? If they'd just made the streets like twice as wide and the cities not a clusterfuck, the maps could be okay, but they'd also have to change the AI to attack if it's not a decisive victory, and garrisons just don't have the flexibility for the 5 or 6 paths the enemy can take. And the AI would rather just spitefully kill off one of your units than win the battle anyway
I want the Maiden of the Black Lotus to be a canon and official TW:W3 faction.
>been fiending like hell to play>waiting for patch>finally have some days off right now>no patch, but they say October still>working a lot next weekFuck me, right?
>>499973774>True, but then why leave the ability for heroes to search them?Because you have to consider the lowest denominator players, not the regulars. Also unlocks the ability to do hero actions on that settlement the following turn, which I appreciate in being able to spam assault garrison/army on skavenblight to just not deal with Ikit's doomstack
>>499981761Just play it now anon, don't cuck yourself out of what you want to be doing.
>>499899296Death globes for infantryPlagueclaws on their rangedJezzails for weapons teamsRatlings / WLC for air unitsPlague Monks for slayersDwarfs on campaign map are OP right now and for the forseeable future since 99% of redditors only play Empire and Dwarfs so CA won't ever nerf them.
>Archaon the Evercucked>Be'lacuck
Smartest and least-homosexual anti-Chaos twgger.
Does anybody have a clue what this ability does? Trying to plan an army but there's no info anywhere
>>499986221I assume it's just a copy of the hydra's ability where it can spontaneously regen when it gets low on healthOr it's a bound breath attack
>>499987125I really dislike those breath attacks. So unreliable and wonky. Playing Tamurkhan reminded me how bad they are (the toad dragon and hydra abilities).>walk unit away to use breath attack>can't use because...???? any one of a dozen bugs occurring that stops you from using it, like 1 random guy not even attacking the hydra is stopping it because said guy is in "melee range">hydra walks around and stops awkwardly over and over (common bug in TW games with many abilities)To me they all have 1 charge for the start of the battle and that's it. And hence upgrades to them (like Tamurkhan's +2 charge) don't exist for me. /blog
>>499987714I don't know what you mean, I love abilities that require line of sight, I love watching my unit wrangle around buggy pathfinding and wonky terrain and slowly rotate for 3 seconds before they begin their huge long cast for what is ultimately an underwhelming ability one one unit it mostly misses.Meanwhile my Wizard just does a 1 second area cast direct damage spell on 5 units.
>>499988106Reminds me, this morning I was looking over all of the LL wondering who I should play that I haven't played yet. I seen that Teclis has "bound spell: fireball". Damn, that's noteworthy, so much so it's on the lord details pane! What a joke.
>>499988583That panel sucks for telling you about the lord and campaign experience imo. Cylostra for example has an ability not listed, maybe two? Belakor's unique manifestations aren't listed, I could go on. Kostaltyn even gets a bound fireball too I think (or that may be from a mod). Anyway Teclis's campaign sucks because of the start location, Kairos is a pain in the dick and then you want to sail away to do shit but then one of the friendly lizards declares war because the game thinks you're getting bored. Try him on Old World or with a change starting settlement cheat, he does eventually get quite strong.
>>499981761Anon, just play the game. The update isn't dropping a massive DLC or anything. The updates aren't major enough to warrant waiting for. Your experience will more or less be the same. If you really want, just install a mod to make Ogre contracts better.
What are these "tallymen" that Nurglite factions keep talking about? Will they tally my banana?
The tourists have succeeded in killing this general. Another section of the site lost to reddit.
>>499991548What's wrong with Reddit?
>>499991548i will destroy you
>>499991548>picFUCKING OGRES
>>499991834They don't like hawk tua
LUUUUUUUTHOOOOOOOOOOOR HAAAAAAAAARKOOOOOOOON
>>499991548It's like this every major drought
>>499989035It's not from a mod. All the skink priests get a bound fireball as well.
>>499992396
>>499991971ENEMIES EVERYWHERE
ALLLL FEAR THE PIIIRAAAAAAATE KIIIIIIIIIING
I'm already at war with Lokir and Sniktch, they're both much more powerful than me and Zhao...Meow's already been destroyed...fuck.
>>499981761I reinstalled a couple weeks ago and haven't stopped playing sinceIt feels good to play
>>499992920You should lose on purpose to Vilitch, since he's a Warriors of Chaos faction you actually can get him to vassalize you. If you do you get lots of cheat bonuses for being an AI vassal because the game treats you as if you ARE an AI despite being a playerSo basically the higher difficulty you're playing on, the more bonuses you get for being vassalized by the AIJust remember, you have to let them beat you in order to do it, just keep feeding him armies and settlements and he'll eventually send you a vassalization demand
>>499993384This is the most Tzeentch bullshit I've ever heard of.
>>499993384not gonna read all this, summarize it in 1 word for me
would you fight if you were bald
>>499994823Of course. Now, if I was only 5'11 AND bald, that'd be a different story.
>>499992747Dear luthorschizoI'm actually making a mod for vampire coast where Coast faction leaders have to defeat a certain lords in the map, with some cool rewardscan you tell me which legendary lord in the game would luthor harkon target?i also need names for noctilus, cylostra and aranessa!so far i havearanessa targets noctilus, luthor targtes mazdamundi
>>499994559vassalized
>>499993384I didn't even know the AI could send you a vassal request.
>College of pyrotechnics what are you doing?>Kairos to show you that I am in touch with what it means to be imperial, I am going to try to take your minor settlement by spamming HRB's and a few grenadiers!>No! No! That's offensive! You can't take my settlement with an army like that. That's a stupid idea.>What?>IT'S A STUPID IDEA! YOU'RE A STUPID ROGUE FACTION! A STUPID STUPID STUPID ROGUE FACTION!>OW! You're hurting me! Stop it Stop it Kairos!>NO! IM SO SICK OF YOUR CRAP! WHY DO YOU ALWAYS DO THESE STUPID THINGS! AND WHY DO YOU ALWAYS ANNOUNCE THEM TO ME BEFORE YOU DO THEM?! ARE YOU TRYING TO GET A RISE OUT OF ME?! ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?! IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT!>Oh no! It's not what I want! It's not what I want! I'm sorry Kairos! I'm sorry!
Is there a mod that let's me rename Legendary Lords? I need to change 1 letter in Tamurkhan's title.
>>499993384lying bird needs correction
squelch
Which faction should I play if I want to rip and tear and shred and disembowel, but with claws and not weapons?Do I just replay norsca using skinwolves more?
>>499998048Lizardmen maybe? Not exactly claws but like you can get kroxigors with like fist weapons to beat people up
>>499998435>I want to rip and tear and shred and disembowel>not weapons>hey anon here's 'not rip and tear' and 'with weapons'
>>499998048Rakarth Beast army
>>499993061Was this from when Grimgor was being mocked for his low mass letting everything knock him around?
>>499998048Try Skrag with Gorger swarms.
The sun is rising...
>>499999351Wonder what they did with those when they weren't fighting.
>I require absolute silence and solitude - for my CHEESE! ...and my sanity
>Another siege battle crash because I dared to bring reinforcements AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! WHAT MOD IS CAUSING THIS?!
>>499995773What mod is this?
>>499958625I just dont like siege battles.I honestly prefer the old siege battles in game 1 and 2
https://youtu.be/VLbi8UAWqNAEstalia soon
>>500001413Honest question, I haven't played TW2 in so long now. What are the critical differences between siege battles between 2 and 3? The main thing I remember is there's no supply mechanic in 2, right? So the defender can't spawn in towers, barricades etc over the duration of the battle. What else makes them shit in 3 or what people dislike?
>>500001557They take less time to win as an attacker.
>>500001390No mod as far as I can tell. Just retarded ai being retarded ai.
>>500002717Huh, don't think I've ever encountered the College of Pyrotechnics.
>>500002767It's a rouge army. That means its basically a beastmen horde consisting of a variety of units over several faction consisting of a single theme. In this case the theme is obnoxious explosive units.It's as gay as it sounds.
>>499999620The sun? They used it as lighting so they could work.
>>499999620history is full of soldiers sneakily cutting down their pikes to make them easier to carry, or to make it easier to loot
>>499999893would
>>500004989Sorry to break it to you, my dwarf pal. That's a female rat. As in, a vagina haver.
Is there a list of any sort that shows you who/what has horde or horde-like mechanics? Like Beastmen, Black Arks, Nakai, Malakai, etc. Playing settlement simulator gets tiresome sometimes and hordes are a good change of pace.
>>500005254CA realised horde mechanics sucked hard and moved away from them in WH3. The only true horde remaining is Nakai.
>>500005064dont call me a dwarf
>>500005328A shame since they're easily expanded on, as in, more ideas/mechanics. And yet they've done nigh-nothing to change up settlement shit.
>>499998512I explained my reasoning, you're retarded
>>500005673>clearly didn't read at all>no, you're the retard!
>>499998048Why not drycha? half of her army roster consists of everyday animals with actual claws and teeth. Give her a try.
>>500005456Not being able to take settlements is a huge problem because other factions will colonise the ruins after you raze everything. Then when those other factions get rich off of your work, they declare war on you forcing you to start all over. This was a huge problem with WoC, beastmen, and norsa before their reworks. I don't see how hordes will ever be fun other than a Nakai or Changeling implementation where you can still control settlements indirectly (Nakai) or are fucking invincible (Changeling).
I haven't bought thrones of bones so I was reading reviews of malakai's campaign.>it's so hard you start in the first province and have to fight skaven, azazel and norscans!I know from reading this it's literally the same start as Kraka Drak (I mean it's literally the same province) since I played that mod a lot in 2023 and that's how you did it. CA should have unfucked the norsca map and added other Kraka/Norse Dwarf buddies to suck your dick, like Kraka Dorden, to add strategic levels. Oh well.
>>500005778I did, you're the one incapable of reading what I wrote and how I literally said "This might scratch the same itch"It's not my fault that you're an ESL posting on an English site, there are plenty of alternatives you could be using
>>500005370>6 years of thanquol posting>thanquol is still not in game>>500005064Vagina just means sheath in Etruscan, retard.
>>500005819> This was a huge problem with WoC, beastmen, and norsa before their reworks.Was just thinking this. I would love to replay any of those 3 factions you've mentioned but actually raze and keep shit destroyed. Reminds me of the horror of doing Norsca in TW2 where you raze a bunch of settlements in the Empire but sometimes a random Empire army will spawn in the Empire lands and start taking settlements, even if their faction went extinct. Wild shit. I think Franz had to be wiped out to stop the other Empire factions from respawning.>>500005673>>500005896"Explaining" doesn't absolve you from being incorrect. You are objectively in the wrong. Liggerplayers are actually insane. It is rich how you do not think whatsoever and yet call others ESL. Typical /vg/ though sadly.
>>500006068>I think Franz had to be wiped out to stop the other Empire factions from respawning.>summon the elector counts is an actual power he has
>>500006252Ever play Norsca in 2? Guessing not, very few people actually have. And I'm sadly one of said few who actually finished their campaign. It'd be non-Franz armies that'd randomly spawn in over time to retake their lands even though they were destroyed, as in, the faction is gone, no longer in the diplomacy window, then they reappear. Very half-assed, as usual for CA.
>>500006416The only time I played norsca was in 2 but I kept getting dogpiled by everyone after uniting norsca because the economy was SHIT
Is there a totally war game that lets you follow the early roman republic?
>>500006416You mean through that 'Empire's last stand' event, or whatever it was called?Fucking cringe ass shit, that was.
>>500001458I wish. A Border Princes and Dogs of War DLC would be fun as fuck.
>>500005819I think the problem is that it's too easy to rebuild ruins, but even if they made it more expensive the ai cheats and doesn't care about econ.
>>500007159The Rise of the Republic DLC for Rome 2 starts with Camillus returning to Rome in the war against Veii, it's pure Ab Urbe Condita kino and features Rome going from hoplites to the famous maniples. Hannibal at the Gates is all about the Second Punic War and Hannibal and Scipio both have unique models.
>>500005867Easiest tactic is probably just to say fuck the north after taking out your initial hostile foe and expand towards karak dum and into the darklands. Alternatively you can try and go north and fight the Chaos factions right away and try and save/build up Boris as an ally.The trap is to try and aggressively take over Norsca, you'll end up with like 10+ factions declaring war on you and Kislev/Empire won't ever send shit north to help you. It's very annoying trying to wrangle your settlements back from so many stacks. But Malakai and Gyrocopters are kinda bullshit so if you abuse the right things you can just do whatever you want and win any battle. I found saving boris to be a good method even if it limited my early expansion for a while, by not expanding so quickly less factions declared war on me.
>>500006068I dont play lizardmen, I was offering something that might scratch the same itch. You dont play the game or speak the language, why are you even here
>>500008025They probably should have kept Kraka Drak and put him in Karak Dum instead. But I like the Kraka Drak start, it's just just playing as Malakai I wouldn't feel motivated to defend Kraka Drak since Malakai isn't a Norse Dwarf. Literally not my problem.
Skarsnik is my favorite LL
>>500007159They literally released a DLC for this exact thing in 2018.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjCP5rDGIcg2018 was a banger year except for some bad stuff that happened.
>>499998048No, Lizardmen have rip and tear with Big Dinos and Kroxigors can death roll infantry as it's sync animations
Which warhammer is better to get if I never played total war game before, 1 or 2?
>>5000112402 but imo ideally 3, it has the tutorial and is the one getting updates and has quality of life features that I like (but some other people dislike !) like idle unit indicators and stuff
>>499998048Slaanesh
>>5000112403
>>500011240For sure 2. 1 is a decent option, and you get to appreciate the changes from 2 and then 3 even more. Starting 3 is 'okay', especially if you don't have the patience or don't think you'd care for these games much. 2 is also finished, so no more updates and no save bricking. Not the case for 3.
Do the victory types even do anything anymore? I think I remember that they used to give a multiplier to lord and hero exp but I think I heard they changed it.
>>500008609>some bad stuff that happened.China cloning monkeys?
>>500013563No. Now experience is based on how many entities you kill. Running down retreating enemy units will grant more experience.
>>500013616OTHER STUFF
>>500014092>Running down retreating enemy units will grant experienceHow does this gives experience? They don't even fight back!
>>500015589ah, of course...R.I.P XXXTentacion
>>500005370More ratgirls please
Why are my captured orc towns not converting to dwarf ones visually?
>>500016908Ive noticed if it happens its at the turn after, usually after a loading screen.
>>500016908let us know if >>500017030 is correct
>>500017419No, it's been like that since the first turn
>>500017548I've never been able to figure out why. Maybe some cities are hard coded to always be a certain type.
>Vampire>Sorcerer>Bald>UglyGuys is Mannfred actually a necrarch
guys i think the mannfred bullying has gone too far
>>500016908>>500017030>>500017419>>500017548>>500017702I'm confused, since when so cities change visually to match the like conquerer? I thought they always like we're just the same skin no matter what, that's ehy there was a mod to do the dynamic replacing
>>500016856rats
>>500016908Lost TWWH1 technology. They just don't do that in WH3. I think there's a mod that lets you bring it back partially.
>>500019515Some races have paired settlements, like empire/vamps and dwarfs/greens
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2850074277Haven't tried it, and never will. To me it makes sense at least for very large structures to not be replaced. Say you take over a huge Dawi stronghold, a fuck-huge amount of work/stone/metal etc, then what, your faction think it wise to destroy it and replace it? Unlikely. Anything detailed would take far too much time/work for CA and for a game like this, too (e.g. a settlement slowly transitioning from old faction to current).
>wipe Grimgor's stack>returns with this
>>500022306woah wtf how did he do that, anon? fuckin grimgor cheating again huh?
>>500022306woops forgot my picture
>>500022437LMAO how embarrassing it must be for Grimgor to show up like this. He truly is desperate.
>>500020421>>500019515>>500017030So this is a feature and not a bug? I mean, I get why a human settlement won't convert, but I'm in the mountains and orcs and dwarfs are supposed to adapt each other's settlements
Skaven convert all settlements to ruins in appearance. Which is a wonderful, interesting, deep feature that adds so much to the strategic gameplay.
IS THATIS THAT A WHITE PIXELAHUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHLEGEND SAVE ME
>wanna play WH3>patch in two, maybe three daysCA please..
sfo has armoured slayers.
What's the point of confederating LLs that are super far away from youBeastmeme are so shit
beastmen are so laughably easy that having lords spread all over the world is funalso, you can just respec them recruit them at whatever you consider your main area to be
dont tell me what i can do
When you win a battle against a city as beastmen you should get a 5 minute long cutscene of the enemy's women getting twitching goat dick pushed into them
Hear me out, Krubersreik 5 horde faction mod
are we gsg yet
kerillain sucks rat cock in hell(pit)
its over
How do (you) talk to [vertically challenged] people?
Valkia accepted the proposal to become my vassal c:
SHOOT ALL RATFAGS
>>500025741Queek is like 7 feet tall canonically, dwarflets seething
COME, APPROACH THE GREAT KINGI RULE EVERYTHING
>>500026545tomb knigs are the best bros because of the strategic threat diplomacy bonus
There's a giga autist that is 99% of the posts of a random anime game and I found him years ago by accidentally clicking on the wrong thread in the catalogue. He's still at it today: >>499823679>>498237882(for some reason they have two generals for the same game)Not as obvious since they removed the IP count, but he almost never quotes anyone and mostly ends his posts with ...This retard spamming posts and not quoting anyone just made me think of him. Same non-verbal 40 year autistic living with parents vibe.Anyways IT'S UP:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy5zbitdatIGET THE HECK IN HERE LEGENDHEADS.
Gonna be honest with you guys, I rarely use buff or debuff spells. I just love the big flashy damage ones too much.
Attila>has an elaborate family tree>which is seamlessly integrated with an internal political system>you can assign generals to either lead armies, fleets or governing provinces>has a religion system, which has more depth than even paradox games>most complex city building in any Total War game ever (you have to balance public order, food, squalor, money and corruption)>Age of Charlemagne offers an alternative campaign experience, which offers a very different experience with a lot of the mechanics rebalanced (settlements can no longer be raised, there is war weariness and food doesn't have to be produced locally anymore and provinces give a lot of boni to surrounding regions)>sieges simulate the entire city, as well as a portion of the sea for combined land/naval warfareWarhammer>generals/single entities to this day cannot be assigned a bodyguard and embedded into another unit>no seasons, no passing of time>no family trees>no naval battles>no air battles>every character is immortal (at a certain level)>no governors>developers afraid to give characters negative traits>no political system>magic is just +20% attack for 10 seconds, instead of cool stuff like giving permanent flaming weapons to all units, conjuring a storm to deflect all arrows away from the army or long-range strategic meteor attacks on enemy provinces>every spell looks the same, there is the stationary naval bombardement, the randomly moving whirlwind, the directional wind attack for every winds of magic>tactics barely matter even more, the stat of a unit is much more important (flanking, rear charges barely do anything)>you can't land flying units for some reason or dismount any cavalry during battle>diplomacy got overhauled and now instead of a Total War you flood the world with your vassalsI don't understand people, who from this point onwards only want Total War Fantasy, when the last historical Total War game had such deep and complex systems.
I haven't played empire since before the rework, do you still need at least 2000 prestige at all times to prevent chimp outs between the counts?
consider a wardancer wife
>>500027974sorry but Fantasy is cool and Attila is drool. Legend said Warhammer 3 is the best so sorry historicel
>>500027974>you can't land flying unitsYou actually can, there's a button for it at the bottom of the screen when you have one selected.>>500027974>I don't understand people, who from this point onwards only want Total War Fantasy, when the last historical Total War game had such deep and complex systems.There really isn't a reason why a fantasy game can't have deep and complex systems, CA just got lazy.
>>500028247Legend hated Warhammer I though and only started liking it with II, because it's basically the same game, but gets constant updates and more content. Attila managed to get where it is with just a single year of "live service". Legend would love any Total War game, which receives so much love and care from the developers.>>500028453>You actually can, there's a button for it at the bottom of the screen when you have one selected.Then that's a new feature, which wasn't there before. You still can't dismount cavalry though.
>>500027413He says>If the next set of games(40k, Star Wars, Medieval 3, Empire 2 etc) flop, Sega is likely to pull the plug on CA as a whole>The best case is CA go all in on mass appeal for the next game to make as much money as possible to show Sega that they are in fact economically viable>The "trve fans only like anything pre-Rome 2" argument is a non-sequitor and pointless elitism because Warhammer fans can simply respond that they are the trve fans because they're the ones keeping CA afloat, tribalism is gay, stop purity spiralling etc>r/TotalWar is an echo chamber and the subreddit culture rewards toxic positivity about Total War, this means that if YouTubers want more reach with their videos, they are incentivised to make negative-aligned clickbait>"CA purposely alienated and replaced their old fans" is true, it is simply that different people prefer different settings and time periods, people grow out of series' etc>Warhammer 1 was actually middling sales-wise, it was Warhammer 2 that hit the mainstream>Warhammer is excellent on its own, its mechanics seeping into historical games and casualizing them is the real problem>A Total War fan is someone who has played a Total War game regularly, it can be a single entry in the IP, playing a game in the series makes you a trve fan>Rome 2 and Warhammer 3 having horseshit launches was a good thing actually, Rome 2 and Warhammer 3 had better launches than Pharaoh because people only get angry about games that they care about, nobody got angry about Pharaoh because nobody cares about Pharaoh because the setting is shit, for game companies anger is a better response than apathy>Pharaoh has excellent reviews and no players, this means nobody cares about Pharaoh purely because of the setting.>Pharaoh cost CA so many "old fans" that they will have to work incredibly hard to win them back>People cared more about Thrones of Britannia than they did about Pharaoh
>>500028770Shut up! Let me watch it myself!
legend says your mom is a fat whoredamnhe got one right
>>500028163Sorry. I'm already taken by my sea-wife.
>>500027413>>500028770>Playercount matters because CA are on a tightrope as far as finances and Sega's gaze are concerned>It's better to release a popular piece of shit and make it good over time than to release something good but niche>Ubisoft is slop>IGN is retarded>Creative Assembly are babies and coerce journalists to give good reviews>There is more demand for a good Historical game than there is for a good Fantastical game>Paradox Games dunk on CA and prove that there is a very high demand for historical games, Medieval 3 will literally sell trillions>CA need to make Medieval 3>Make Medieval 3 CA>MED 3 NOW>BILLIONS COULD BE YOURS>Make Medieval 3, attempt to achieve as wide an audience as possible, you will make millionsYou're welcome, don't give shills your views.
Karl Franz has the potential to be one of the most broken campaigns, Electorial Machinations are too strong (+1 pop every 3 turns means you have t4 Altdorf around turn 30) and when upgraded get even stronger (same-turn local and global recruitment, 1.5 levels worth of XP to a general, immediate purge of corruption etc.). Still, beginning is certainly tough for someone who hasn't had experience with it so it's not braindead
you dont look like that
>>500028163I considered, what now?
twg said legend was wrong and that there was no pivot because the next DLC was going to come out in october and prove they had been working on it all alongwhat happened?
>>500030776Nothing.
The giants at CA didn't want to compete with Black Ops 6 release month, simple as.
>>500030986what do you mean nothing happened when ToD took 8 months but 2 months of that was reworking SoC, 1 month was a christmas break and CA Sophia didn't make 1/3 of it?why would the next DLC take just as long?
>>500028163>melee infantryno thanks
>>500031361Suit yourself, she'll be infantry for me. And by that I mean she'll be churning out infants
>>500028770>>500029264Thanks
>>500031220CAshills real quiet after this banger dropped
For TW3, is there a way to see the fire-on-the-move fire arc/cone for units? Some units are able to fire in 360°, whereas many others can not. Unless I'm blind, it isn't on twwstats either.
>>500002767a thousand Vashnaars upon ye
>>500031220To provoke baldfags.
>>500031220After TOD we've been getting more hotfixes than ever during Warhammer together with big patches with reworks to systems and races in between as more reworks are planned and revealed in the interviews, and a big part of the team was fired in April just as ToD released or they were diverted to other projects, of which there's at least 3 we know of (historical TW, fantasy TW, aliens 2). Also summer holidays. In addition Sophia isn't involved, from the interviews we know for certain only that one single guy went physically to UK to discuss Khorne overhaul, and even if Sofia were there it'd only slow shit down until Sofia gets the entire DLC. CA would have to waste time explaining to them how the spaghetti works and discuss a plan on how to get this done without creating Norsca-like merging issues. November release is very swift considering everything.
My lord is the dark master. Your lord is a schizo.
>>500033769Be'lakor is really cool, my favourite Warriors of Chaos campaign I think. I like how he makes daemons not crappy with his discount.
>>500033864What's your strategy or what do you like to do with his portals? Any particular place you like to go first with them?
>>500033671>eight months to make three lords and a handful of units is very swift actually!!
>>500033864Tried playing him recently but the Pile of Violence playstyle is so boring to me, it's cool to go around collecting other legendary lords like pokemon though.
>>500035039Welcome, my friends. This is /twg/! We sometimes talk about Total War.
>>500034062Just remember there's one near Mordheim and one near the Southern Wastes. Open one in Albion at first, then do whatever you want, but Bretonnia will absolutely want to screw you over so keep than in mind. Wulfrik might also, Dark Elves/Cylostra as well. Albion will be under constant threat.By the way Beasts of Nurgle are crazy good for Be'lakor, are underpriced and are unlocked very early. One Nurgle gift should absolutely be used for these. They're good to have in every single army.
>>500035242Beasts of Nurgle are insane anywhere all of the time. I've been playing quite a lot of Nurgle in general lately (just started yet another Kugath run just now) and I'm still impressed how good and efficient they are.
Do you want to speculate on the likely DLCs that we shall receive in 2025?
>>500036082We already know. It's the Khorne - Ogres - Greenskin DLC.
>>500036082Slaanesh vs High Elves vs VC or BretsDogs of War
>>500030630enjoy
>>500035457This post has been fact-checked by Nurgle Worshippers and it is completely true. There's no excuse to not be pumping them out unless you just don't want to use Nurgle stuff. When there's too many souls, you can remove and add the Beast gift for 1 more Beast cap instantly. It's still worth the asking price in souls.>>500036082Slaanesh vs High Elves vs Vamp Counts (or Dark Elves maybe). Dogs of War.
>>500036082Slaanesh and 2 flavors of elf. Or Slaanesh, Vampire Counts (Neferata), and some flavor of elf. There's gonna be elves somewhere I'm sure.
>>500036082Weird, I was just about to ask this myself. Anyway for the next one it's virtually guaranteed that Slaanesh will be in as that's the only chaos god not to get one yet, and very likely to have Vampire Counts since they're the only core TWWH1 race to not get anything in 3 yet. As for the third, probably Cathay since CA shows such favoritism for them and there are still dragons to add.
>>500036082Dogs of War for sure. And Counts being a part of some dlc.
>>500036256>>500036395>>500036853Not an expert on the tabletop game but Dogs of War are just a bunch of random mercenaries, right? Why do people want them, and how would they work as a faction in a Total War game?
>>500036082Pharaoh - Dynasties: Mythos
Speaking of Nurgle, how do armies passively spread plagues (e.g. not entering battle)? Same province? Or only nearest local region has a chance to obtain the army's plague and doesn't need to be garrisoned?
>>500037256They're high on hopium expecting Dogs of War to also include the Southern Realms (Estalia, Tilea, Border Princes)
>>500037256It's a last faction with an armybook from tabletop to represent in TWW.
Subfactions that we could still see in Total War: Warhammer 3:Cult of UlricBeastmen of IndNagas of KhureshMonkey ClanHalfings
Prick wouldn't leave his settlement and come to my ambush so I had to force a fight onto him. Have more respect for plague toads now, able to kite away and then charge cycle a lot. Still don't like plague drones, they never feel worth their very high upkeep.
>>500040861I made the mistake of not picking the Children of Nurgle Kugath passive (aoe heal on casting a spell) as I used his stream so, so many times. Had a lot of WoM to spare and didn't even use all of his ammo (despite picking his ammo talent, too early for it). /blog and may your manual battles be fruitful.
>>500041060What an utter raidboss of a lord. No ranged = no problem.
>>500037256No? Estalia and Tilea and the broder princes have their own lore and units. There's enough stuff to make their own faction(s). People always say "they're just the empire with another color" but that's only true if you're lazy about it.
>>500040861The only difference between plague drones and furies is that flanking an (occupied) armoured unit puts out more painIf you're ever sending them into a fight you wouldn't send furies into that's wrong
>>500041653Yeah, that's right, they're just furies+. These ones are plague drones and only ran out of ammo at the end of the fight (of which their ranged attack seems mediocre). At least the enemy sent multiple bat units on them instead of going behind my troops.
>>500028770>STILL seething about Pharaohjesus christ that game mindbroke legend
>>500027974I love Attila but its religion system is literally a percentage changing and a different building chain when compared to Paradox, stop deluding yourself dude.
>>500039498>Nagas of Khureshsub faction of who ?
>>500042915Could be a sub faction of Beastmen or Cathay. Might have a unit or two with Dogs of War.
Yes...
>>500043432>33 mins
>>500042540>I love Attila but its religion system is literally a percentage changingYeah, but it's not changing linearly.
Next time I play dwarfs I'm gonna install a mod that disables the whole grudge timer shit, this thing legitimately stresses me out with that FOMO bullshit it creates and it forces you to expand like a beastman.
>>500043549No, but it is changing exactly like culture did in Rome 2. Because that's literally what it is, reskinned culture.
Is there a mod for W3 that makes the UI elements look like the ones from W2?
>>500043432Don't give shills your views fag won't touch this
>>500043432Let me guess, he complains about shit he loves to exploit?
>>500027974Such a dishonest post that i'm pretty sure you are one of those doomsaying youtubers.Warhammer 2 and 3 has more replayability than all historişcal titles (minus med2) combined.We all want Med3 or Emp2. But everyone knows a bad BIG historical title WILL kill TW. I dont want to see Med3 untill they build a new engine and people at CA actually want to make that game.
>>500043432Billions of AI ammuntion must die...
>>500044009>>500044015It's fallen...
Could you win a 1v1 against a Kossar (bare-handed)?
>>500044380No.
i thought all this legend shilling was a joke, does this general unironically have shills for a balding youtuber with the charisma of a rock?
Anyone done a Teclis campaign recently? Do I just instantly sail out to kill Kairos asap?
>>500044380I could beat Skarbrand and Belakor and Vlad and any LL all at the same time
Mortars are so fucking kino>High arc>the whistling
>>500044078Some part of me is excited about med3, I'm wondering how they are gonna aproach starting dates.And I'm guessing all TW games from now on gonna focus on named characters first, then their factions.
>>500044696Agreed, with the exception of the wagon variant.
>>500044696More useful in sieges than rocket batteries. They just fall off too much mid-late game.
>>500044619Unless you are playing on hard oe below you cant just sail to kill him. He shits out 2.5 stacks in 5 turns.Just dont play Teclis. Its not fun trying to crack a red climate landmass by landing from the sea. Teleport ambushes, awful econmy, rats, Tiktaqtoe will declare war on you as well.
>>500044696Yeah, they are amazing for early-to-mid game, since it's more likely you are surrounded by lightly armored infantry.
>>499998435>>500009474Meh, unless I do dino majority armies (which I'm not good at microing), they don't quite fit what I want>>499998643IDK quite what all he's got>>499999013Hmm... Maybe, they still as busted OP as they were?>>500005796Bruh I've done a dozen Drycha campaigns, she's amazing but I'm a bit tired of her stuff.>>500011671Same issue I have with dino armies, too much micro...
Finally got enough gold to research a state troop, is it worth spending 7500 on research and 2500 on recruitment and 600 upkeep per turn to have a tank much earlier than I could otherwise?
>play total war>It's bad>play another game>It's goodIs there a name for this phenomenon?
>>500045495it's called being gay
>>500045197>Just dont play Teclis.Yeah I guess. He literally has zero campaign mechanics too.I did a couple of runs on VH and yeah by turn 20 when I was done with the rats, Kairos had switched one of my capital settlements with nurgle, conquered it, and had landed 2.5 stacks.
>>500045651no.....
>>500045361If you think that tank is going to win you what would otherwise be unwinnable battles then yeah. Alternatively, stick to economic investment and making more armies.
>>500045495I play tekkenIt's not good at all and total war is
>>500045937no....
>>500045937post favorite character and favorite faction
>>500045495No matter what game I play, I always has an itch to play TW.
Need a new helf to play myself now that I'm playing on VH. Already beat Imrik on normal, Tyrion and Alarielle are on Boring Island, Eltharion was too hard even on normal, Alith fights the same enemies the whole campaign and Teclis apparently just sucks. Maybe I'll just play Imrik again...
>>500046368Alarielle
>>500046115N'kari and slaanesh
>>500045495>download TW>play 5 hours a day for like a month>less and less after that>uninstall after 2-3 months>dont touch the game for a year>redownload TW>play 5 hours a day for a month
>>500046414I meant kekken character anon. But it's probably Asuka judging from the TW ones.
>>500044810All i know is, there is no going back from Warhammer. CA cant just update the graphics of Med2 and try to resell as Med3. They not only have to match the factions/units/mechanics of WH3, surpass it.I think Med3 has to cover from 800s to late 17th century to be as content rich as Wh3 imo.
>>500046637>But it's probably AsukaNope
>>500046685I dont know if I agreeCrusader Kings has a lot of players, people like historical things, it's just that The Historical ("historical") periods that CA has been focusing on is stuff no one cares about, Bronze Age, Trojan war. No one cares because they're periods that have nothing interesting
>>500046368Play Allarielle. Recruit dryads and do the rite that gives them regeneration. Also put 2 points into earth blood, 1 point into life bloom and 1 point to shield of saphery. Just spamming earth blood makes your army basically immortal.Play on hard or vh. Its fun.
>>500043648No. Changing culture in Rome 2 is just as linear as changing religion or allegiance in Shogun 2, so like it always worked. In Attila it was completely different. Not only did you have local traditions, landmarks and osmosis influencing the religion of a province, but it wasn't as simple as subtracting the negative percentage modifiers of foreign religions from your positive modifiers and then that would be the pace at which the province turns to your religion. Instead every single modifier would guarantee that religion would remain at a certain threshold, which it would eventually reach. Changes to the modifiers would change the thresholds and change would happen again, until it was slowly balanced again. That's very different from anything CA or Paradox ever did before. >>500044078I am not hating on fantasy, I just want good historical Total Wars too. >We all want Med3 or Emp2. But everyone knows a bad BIG historical title WILL kill TW.Nah. People don't care anymore. There is no big outrage compared to Rome 2's launch, because historical fans have accepted the state of things. Medieval 3 would make a bigger wave again, but if anything that would be a good thing. You can only have outrage, if people actually buy your product and are disappointed. Not if they are apathetic. And people would expect CA to support Medieval for a long time with many additional DLC, because it's a big game. And Total War fans generally like games, which have a lot of support over the years, which is why people play Total War Warhammer now. It wouldn't be a good game, if it hadn't had 8 years development time, until it was finally good with Warhammer II.
Is Boris worth unlocking? None of the other Kislev leaders really make me want to play them
>>500046413>>500047105Hmm, well she is awfully waifuable...
>>500049593If you want a harder start with a strong starting army but requires a lot of micro, sure
>>500049593Honestly, RoC Katarin campaign (was) pretty fun. Idk if its worth playing now tho.Also there are 1 time use cheats to unlock Boris.
>>500049593There's a mod to unlock him without having to play a R*C campaign.
>>500047062I agree, recent Paradox games are good at heating up an interest to medieval period. I also agree that Bronze age is not for everyone, it's too niche. It's clear they are an experemental titles that CA also tried to sell as full fledged games, it was too transparent, a big mistake. CA just need to create a med3 with a good starter nations with diverse unit rosters and mechanics. Family tree is important, as well as a huge appropriate for a time period global map
Why did they change the victory win quotes from 2 to 3?They kinda suck in 3
>>500050874More importantly. I want my ruin puzzles and items back. Only the rotating one was trash.
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>>500023573More like a lack of a feature, but it's intentional.
>>500028770Thanks, now nobody will convince me to watch that garbage.
>>500051510Fuck no, die
>>500052690Please?
Is it really so bad to be under vampire rule if the undead handle manual labour? Ignore that last part
>>500052892They were fun as fuck, especially these ones. I loved that they implemented such a unique feature in the game.
How does Kislev play? Do I just pelt shit at ranged till they come close?
>>500054447No you just use warriors and armoured kossars as frontline and kossars as ranged unitsIt's merely pretending to be hybridLancers are fun though
>>500054447first line: kossarssecond line: ice guardsthird line: couple little gromsflanks: ice guards with spears and bear cavalryother than that you can just try to farm for the war sled traits and have light war sleds doomstacks
>>500052280Almost there, anon, grind him down
medieval 2 is one of those games like planescape torment or fallout new vegas where people are in love with the idea of the game and ignore the fact that the game itself is complete ass. the game is total dog doo but people are too busy going "muh deus vult" "muh evropa" to care.
>>500055301Its fun
>>499880435Been months since I visited, maybe since spring. What's new on /twg/ and for total war games in general?
>>500055709Total War: Hawk Tuah!
KHAZUUUUUUUUUUU
>>500055908This has never been funny.
>>499880526>>499880823Me too. The only lord I cared to play when I still played Warhammer.
>>500048485It was not different in Attila. I think you actually need to look at the scripts of how it worked in something like RPFM before acting like it was some insanely complex religious system. It was not. Monuments affected culture in Rome 2 as well.
>>500055709Volound won, that's the most important thing.
>>499880435Imagine shooting a man with your last bullet and he stands there, UNFAZED.
>>5000544473 box deep checkerboard formation>first linearmored kossars>second linestreltsi>third lineice guard
>>500056427The concept of CA making a total war hawk tuah is funny
>>500033769My lord likes rocksYour lord likes cocks
>>500056530How did he won?
>>500057272Every single thing he said was true and Warhammer 3 almost died. Also, Legend is balding.
>>500057272Pixelmator Apollo and Legend both made videos admitting that he's right
>>500057201Tictactoe is a femboy.
>>500057393Warhammer 3 has 30,000 players right now and he was crying on reddit that people now think Pharaoh is good. Volound lost hard.
>>500027974I mentioned this on /vst/, but what I want is a fantasy setting, but with historical looking armor, something from iron age, late antiquity, maybe even bronze age. Realistic looking but with some fantasy elements.
>>500057618So what does that make Be'lakor when he got dominated by Twinktaq'to?
>>500052919No.
>>500057573From what I remember of his rambles he's only half right. In some ways old total wars are better, but not in all the things. They are mixed bags, even with mods take into account.
>>500053693They should add more different kinds so they don't all look lizardmen-ish.Elven puzzles, human puzzles, dwarf puzzles, chaos puzzles, greenskin "puzzles".
>>500057715Now look at the players after SoC. Pharaoh is dogshit and only actual shills defend it, just look at the playercount.
>>500058430>player count is higher after DLC releaseWow, you don't say. Still waiting to hear your cope about how 30,000 daily players puts CA in truly dire straits.
>>500033769>GayosHe's a master alright, a master of rimming crab-handed demons (troon)
>>500056905No it isn't you underage retard. At least I hope you're underage since you're doing the thing attention-starved kids do where they keep repeating the same unfunny shit over and over.
>>499880435How do I git gud at TWS2? After you get a lot of provinces it all overwhelms me with the different front and the upkeep and the politics
>>500058827>player count is higher after DLC releaseYou're actually mentally retarded or extremely disingenuous, I said go look at the playercount after SoC released and it dropped despite there being a new DLC. Do you think CA went into full damage control mode because SoC was doing good and the community loved them?
>>500057905ARCHAON IS WEAK, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN - ACK!!!
>>500058970I'm notIt's funny because that's not ehat you'd really rypically expect them to make a total war about!
>>500058987Japan is a really long line, generally like you can try and force yourself into a minimum of two fronts, expanding on either direction on the line
>>500059119Oh okay, so CA was in really "dire straits" for like 2 months because of a lackluster DLC rather than people being mad about removed mechanics or whatever Volound spergs about, then they released ToD to massive success and now the game still has the exact same player count from a year ago. Volound really was right all along.
>>500059356What about when everyone turns against you at the end? It's so stressful
>>500058970you're trying to argue with a woman
Almost certainly the province he will start in.
>>500059634Nothing was said about sex either direction
>>500059459It is very stressful at the end (and I actually dont like it) but it's stressful in the same way a boss fight is, it's a final big challenge, kind of like endgame crises in other games
Which weapon is better?I'm partial to the mace, for the explosion, but I want to confederate Fulg.
>>500043623Kinda liked the old system betterYou could actually play like a dwarf and not be forced to larp as GroB(bi)Germania
>>500059398ToD is just proof fantasois will eat any slop CA gives them as long as they pretend they actually invested effort in it, they made it too obvious they don't give a shit with SoC.
>>500060504Purely looking at thw weapons, thundermace is much better
>>500060421Unless it's a 'preparation check' to see if you are prepared for it at that point it feels kind of unfair imo
>>500060992Yeah that's my issue.On one hand, I get closer to confederating Fulg.On the other hand, Thundermace is good.
>>500058987>play as Satsuma/Shimazu>take your Island and fight a one-front war the rest of the game>use your navy superpowers to prevent any rear invasions
>>500061160Here's my thought, the thundermace is very good, but you can only really equipment it on 1 person, and as you get more armies that 1 person will be a smaller percentage of your overall battlesThat said, you aren't guaranteed a confederation even if he does like youPersonally I'd go with the thundermace option for a guaranteed fun benefit right now
>>500059865>skrag doesn't start near the great maw>golgfag doesn't start in the southern realmsCan CA get anything right?
I JUST STARTED MAN
>>500061679And this is why I like the mod that moves Skrag up to Yhetee peak.
>>500060421>>500058987Realm Divide is the worst thing put in any TW game
>>500061998Agweed
>>500062087Makes me wonder how much of the love for Shogun 2 is just nostalgia from people who play to a certain point and decided they have their fill
>>500062191I like shogun 2 a lot, but I just tend to move on to a different campaign before I reach that pointOr I used to I believe use a mod that basically like lowered some of the diplomatic maluses so that like long standing allies would tend to not betray you during realm divide so it wasn't just a complete "Oops now fight everyone"
DO people really want LOTR ovsr W40K?
>>500063075>all 4 get mogged by Med 3sad!
>>500063204Realtiy is that Med 3 wouldn't be so well recived. People of old Total wars are in minority they are just loud. If CA released Med 3 they would insta lose 50% or more of theire players.
APOLOGIZE TO /his/chadshttps://youtu.be/qy5zbitdatI?si=uPc9nJLthgtH4SMD
>>500063752see >>500028770 and >>500029264Don't give shills your views.
>>500063547>People of old Total wars are in minorityFALSE. See>>500063752>>500028770>>500029264
>Legend videoListening to him makes it clear he's an intellectual lightweight compared to ppl like volound and dishonorable daimyo. Instead of hammering the core arguments he's all empty platitudes like>Embrace different opinions>You mustn't dismiss people's opinions
>>500063946me transcribing what was said was not an endorsement, don't quote me in your tribal wars, I play Rome, Medieval, 3k, Pharaoh and Warhammer with some Empire when i'm feeling frisky.
>>500064147>with some Empire when i'm feeling frisky.meds now
>>500063075https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMYtFHSXGLg
>>500061084it's a preparation check they just don't tell you about it so it will be a surprise when nobunaga turns into a demon. if you know not to break too many gourds the game becomes a lot easier.
>>500063075For some reason the settings people want the most are watered down Warhammies.
>>500064479LOTR shits all over mug grimdark warhammer
Historoids got their history title and nobody plays it. Pharoh is the best historical total war game in last 10 years and look how many people have bought it. History titles simply aren't interesting anymore.
>Historoids got their history title and nobody plays it. Pharoh is the best historical total war game in last 10 years and look how many people have bought it. History titles set in dogshit time periods simply aren't interesting anymore.ftfy
>>500064586I don't disagree with that but from a gameplay perspective, LotR Total War would just be Warhammer with less in it.
>>500064708>a warhammer light game is the best history title in yearsI bet you consider Troy and 3K history titles as wellkys
Pharoh is not set in a dog shit time period. If anything going through 800-1800 period again would be so boring. We've done that, nobody wants it anymore.
Everybody wants Med 3Which should just be Med 2 with better graphics, native mod support, borderless windowed and most importantly LESS JANK
>>500065213All 5 of you who played it 20 years ago lol....
Schematics from Nan Gau.
>>500065038>nobody wants it anymore.
Legend:>doesn't matter if a game is good and fun to play, if it has no players or set in niche periods it is le bad, Pharaoh is the worst TW game for that reason and I have never played it btwWhat a fucking sheep, how does anyone take this clown seriously
>>500065213I'll buy that for 10$.
IT'S UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dGjBAbAU7I
>>500063075>star warsWhy would anyone want that
THoughts on landships?
>>500066442Clearly not many people do.
Medieval 2 is overrated as fuck. Med 3 would be cool, not because Med2 but because we'd get a new main-line Total War game that's not a saga and that's not a sloppy, rushed, inferior reskin of Rome1
>>500066089I skimmed it and they're nerding out about Warhammer at large, not only Total War.Off-topic shillposting disguised as Total War shillposting.Don't. Give. Shills. Your. Views.No summary because fuck you, i'm not enduring 3 hours of off-topic discussion to own le shitposters.
>>500067264They are literally talking what they wished would be in TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER game.
Now THAT was a fun quest battle
>>500066089>Basedtekno
https://youtu.be/K8cLeaN90jg?si=EzLJpP989Pd5mb0JLL for this feel?
>>500068360Skrag.
>>500068036Then explain why they spoke about characters they want to return to AoS? What areas of the Warhammer world get more fleshed out by TOW? Why spend 20 minutes talking about how they had a crazy game of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay? Also at 1:42:40 Andy starts moaning about how the empire is too white, I will not dignify it with any more attention as I will not legitimize a wishlist of never evers and discussion of things unrelated to Total War.>>500068360Greasus Goldtooth with the reskin that turns him into a Mongol warlord
>>500067937I'm not Queek though.
>>500068705That's exactly what Queek would say.
>>500068902No, actually, I don't think Queek would ever say that. Honestly it kinda sounds opposite to everything Queek usually stands for.
Looking back... it was kino...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Neh_9YfzQ
>>500069907Please stop using the word kino, I've accidentally added it to my vocabulary and I get in trouble when I say it so I'm teying to wean myself off of it
Keeslev endyures
Why can't I create vassals as dwarfs?
>>500069907>Gets access to game 2 months early>Plays all campaigns>Still gives the game a 8.5 in his review>When people reazlie how shit the game is, makes a 180 and starts shitting on CA>Gets blacklisted>Still buttmad to this daywomp womp
Fucking Tamakuracan't
>>500070308Every single faction should have random big monsters.>Bb-but muh faction identity m-muh loreNo one gives a shit, big monsters sell for a reason.
>>500072451Oh, that pun is used in the defeat trait... fuck.Anyway, the reinforcements didn't arrive, but it was an ambush, and now I shall Kill him.
>>500072451>>500072875And now he's cowering.Lol
>>500072875Two steps aheadI am always Two steps ahead
>>500074325>>500074325>>500074325
>>500074736>>500074736>>500074736Real Thread.
>middle mouse click giving up the ghost>left click double clickingI can't play total war like thisfucking logitech garbage
