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>DRAGON BALL: Sparking! ZERO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8DnsXPmQA
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>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
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If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

Kakarot:
>Daima DLC announced

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>Raiders: Cell, Frieza, Buu, Vegeta, Ginyu Force, Broly, Goku Black/Zamasu, Baby Vegeta

>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
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Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama
Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>499722350
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Cheelai
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>>499927539
What I learned from last thread is that anyone who claim Daima is retconning anything is a massive retard.
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what's the best way to practice before hopping on online?
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>>499928037
Just play the story and then do some matches and tournaments.
You'll learn best by just playing.
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>>499928019
It doesn't matter because both Super and Daima are silly as fuck and nobody who appreciates Dragonball does so for it's lack of plot holes and stellar writing.
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>>499928037
Just play unranked, nothing to worry about.
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>>499928019
What I learned from the last thread is that you're a disingenous speedwatcher, crying and coping because Toriyama and Iyoku are retconning your precious DBS out of existence.
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>>499928630
you can get an ez paralyze off of any gut punch-type chain rush or dash attack.
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>>499928528
>>499928807
See? The massive retarded samefag even recognized himself!
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>Dragon Ball lore
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>>499928830
What a pathetic seething bitch you are, kek
>So you're a retard who didn't watch the show
Just like you when you were telling me that Goku asked Gowasu about Vegito defusing AFTER fighting Fused Zamasu as Vegito and not BEFORE? Disingenous stupid bitch
>Seethe, you're mad!
You keep trying to force this argument when you're the one posting shit like "A-a, I-I, Y-y" like an autistic, butthurt schizo because his whole headcanon got debunked by the newest thing, kek.
>Zamasu was born as a mortal!
You were claiming that he was born as a godly being, now you're backtracking like you always do, Zamasu is now a ningen, it goes against the whole point of the Zamasu arc, Kaioshins aren't godly beings by nature, retcons galore left and right.
>>499929191
I don't know why this bitch is picking fights with everyone, he's visibly butthurt about this whole thing.
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>>499929170
wrong retard
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TND o algo
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>>499929310
>I don't know why this bitch is picking fights with everyone, he's visibly butthurt about this whole thing.
Spergs gonna sperg. He's the type of nigga to commission porn of his Sonichu-tier Zenoverse character. He's invested.
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>>499929191
>>499929310
>>499929426
See? Only anon who think Daima is retconning anything and he's so retarded he think his samefagging isn't obvious.
All I had to do was mention his humiliation last thread and he's autiscally going off like clockwork.
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>>499929638
Cope bitch, no one likes you
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>>499929708
I like him, he broke you so hard half this thread is you talking to yourself and pretending we don't know inspect element and 4chan X exist.
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>A Treatise On Lore And Worldbuilding In The Dragon Ball Universe, Part 86: A Demon By Any Other Name...
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>GoDs are ningen that gained godhood
>Kaio(shin) are majin that gained godhood
>pic related is the only race naturally divine
Name a bigger retard than Zamasu
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>>499929028
You can vanish the heavy attacks, pay attention to the white outline some characters have while they're comboing you, the timing is quite strict tho.
Also I remember that I had enough time to escape a Frieza trying to do that exact same thing (the heavy smash to paralyze combo, not the charged Ki blast spam), although I don't know if I got lucky or not.
>>499929841
>1 minute and a half between posts
>Obvious samefagging
Kek
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>>499929841
Who do you think you're fooling?
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>Show up to the thread
>First thing I see is my pet retard being outed as a samefag after running here from his beating
Remember: Stop making shit up.
>>499929681
Let's hope we do better than last time.
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What are the best 4DP characters right now? I need something to round out my team.
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>>499927575
>They don't retreat at all, Pilaf and co help collect Frieza's pieces and Sorbet even leave telling them 'well done'.
NTA, but Sorbet was going to attack Pilaf's gang for stealing the second wish, and then Tagoma stops him, saying they should leave quickly because saiyans might be coming, though Sorbet calmed down after that, and thanked Pilaf after he gave them one of Freeza's eyes.
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Reminder that Saitama solos the Dragon Ball universe
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>>499929638
I didn't say Daima is retconning anything in my post. There are multiple of us. Daima is fucking stupid and gay and is basically Teen Titans Go!. You're fucking stupid and gay.
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>>499930131
>>499930165
>No u
>Phoneposting
You are truly broken, I like him even more now. Doing such a good job getting rid of tourists.
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>>499930128
Zamasu is a retard, Daima it's a self-contained spin-off with his own continuity like GT or Daima is retconning DBS out of canon.
>>499930430
What a pathetic attempt at samefagging, this is truly embarrassing.
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>>499930205
we've gotten better at seeing final weekend a little more just gotta make more consistently to final day now. hopefully we wont go out as bad as we did last time.
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>>499930430
Absolutely buck broken.
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>>499930419
>There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Cool story, lone singular samefagging retard.
>>499930510
>>499930128
>Samefagging this hard
>Just because you're mad everyone knows you're retarded now
>Start crying 'no u' after being caught
You should really go back to /dbs/
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>>499930720
Uh huh
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>>499930621
Just like all his ancestors.
It's sad to see someone who couldn't handle the fact everyone but him enjoy DB beyond his simplistic retardation.
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>>499930720
You're just doubling down because you know you're fucked lol
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>>499930720
Cry mindbroken retard.
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Post Custom Battles now.
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>>499930918
I meant you, schizo gayboy lmao
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>>499930720
This guy is trying to prove to at least 3 seperate people that they are all the same person, while we all know for a fact we are not. Do you know how retarded you look to us right now?
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>>499930831
Nice cope, same-newfag.
>>499930935
>>499931000
>Get made fun of for being broken
>Immediately start 'n-n-no u'ing
>Y-y-you're so fucked now that I'm angrily samefagging!
All that because you were retarded in public.
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>>499930390
Where would Boros rank in the DB world? Seems like he would fit right in.
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>>499928019
>translation: I got BTFO'd in last thread hard and am still butthurt about it so I need to whine in this one; hopefully if I don't (You) my intellectual superiors, they won't come to bully me again
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>>499931267
Heh, based
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>>499931041
Don't impersonate me, broken buck.
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I'm not going to vote because of this, anyone making fun of my HERO (GT) deserves the rope.
>Captcha: GT4LF
Extremely based
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Huh. Neat.
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>>499931267
>Cope: I ran away last thread but I'm the bully!
Rather than getting mad at the rest of the thread mocking you, how about you go back to me humiliating you on the other thread?
My post is the only one you didn't dare reply to.
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>>499931226
>we
You're alone tho, samefag. I understand you're new and all so you think what you're doing is ground breaking 4D chess but it's really not.
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>>499931267
>>499931423
Samefag
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>>499931580
Yeah well guess what?

GOKU


A SHIT!!!
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>>499931621
NTA, but I replied to your post in this thread >>499929310 while you were waiting for me in the last thread like a mindbroken bitch, kek
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>>499931924
He wasn't waiting for you he was waiting for me.
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>>499725367
>Don't know Japanese but he seems to be having fun with the lines.

>https://youtu.be/9L-Ge5i-gRc?t=633
Had forgotten to check out this video, and I just did, thanks. Wakamoto keeping Cell's creepy tone while also sounding overly friendly with Piccolo and still calling him "nii-san" is great.
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>>499931903
>No (GT)
I'm safe
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>>499931924
>I ran away in terror and hide my reply in shame
>B-b-but you're the mindbroken one!
Keep your eyes on the ground going forward.
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>>499932137
Why do you display this extremely pathetic (and embarrassing) behavior just to be mocked by everyone? I'll say this without even the slightest hint of irony, take your meds.
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>>499932085
ESPECIALLY Goku (GT)!
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>>499928019
Sure seems like it with how mad you just made him.
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>>499932137
>Keep your eyes on the ground going forward.
Or else what?
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>>499932137
>>499932473
>Obvious samefagging
Broken buck
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>>499932376
>W-w-why d-d-do you make me feel bad and mock my attempt at saving face? M-m-making me cry is pathetic!
>Y-y-you know how you just said the entire thread was mocking me? W-w-well no u!
Because you thought anyone here was being ironic when they called you retarded?
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>Have very obvious autistic writing style
>Try to samefag
>Fool literally no one
What's his end game?
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>>499932640
No one is supporting you and your deranged, schizoid melty.
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>>499930128
Zamasu is now the human equivalent of a nazi jew.
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>>499932481
There's no else, your eyes are on the ground and they're not moving. no matter how much you samefag and cry.
>>499932694
His end game is trying to feel better after being forced to run away from last thread only to see people already making fun of him here.
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>>499928019
You're an asshole for bringing this over to this thread
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>>499932757
How do you explain the entire thread and the previous one laughing at you then?
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>>499932949
He can't cope with his favorite series being retconned, please understand.
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>>499932834
Kek, imagine if they confirm that the Demon Realms are separated by the ranking class of their mortals, 3rd being the lowest and 1st being the highest, Zamasu being a 2nd class Ningen would never stop being funny
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>>499932869
The one time you actually replied to the same person and you didn't even know it.
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>>499932949
I honestly was expecting him to keep getting bullied in the previous thread instead of immediately showing up in this one. Didn't expect him to get so mad over being righteously called a retard either.
My bad, chimping out should have been expected.
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>>499932387
jajajajajaja
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>>499933145
I have my suspicions that this deranged retard is some mindbroken hapa that has been lurking in /dbdg/ and the Dokkan threads in /vmg/, he sticks out like a sore thumb which is why you can easily pinpoint his extremely obvious attempts at samefagging.
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>>499933145
Why are you lying? What's the point of claiming a post that isn't even yours?
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>>499933443
He's acting like a slimy jew trying to falseflag and put each one of us against the other, he's desperate and alone in his melty.
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>>499933372
Why is it always hapas and spics? Is it related to the poopish skin color?
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>>499933372
Why do you keep trying to bring up your mobile game beef here? Every time you have a meltdown and get BTFO'd, you start talking about your hapa boyfriend.
It was the same shit when you had the item meltdown, that's why nobody want to play with you.
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>>499933546
>falling for it
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>>499933546
I'm not on your side tho.
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>>499933558
Given that this whole meltdown is just one nigger who's upset people like to talk about DB lore and that he didn't understand Daima, probably.
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>>499933636
That was 2 weeks ago
>It was the same shit when you had the item meltdown
I was sorry about that, I didn't know at the time that Tournament mode enabled items by default, still, it was kinda dishonest making a tournament without enabling the "mirror items" option because almost no one was playing with items at release.
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>>499933975
But anon, you are the niggers.
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>>499933546
>>499933814
>Single non-samefagging support he thought he got rejects him
>Instant silence
Hilarious.
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>>499933975
You're the one doing a melty because Daima is contradicting DBS over and over again.
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>>499934068
>mirror items
What the FUCK are you talking about?
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>>499934070
>the niggers
How is that possible when there's only one in this thread?
>>499934068
NTA but two weeks ago or not, you shouldn't bring drama from other generals here.
ESPECIALLY not from Dokkan, last time we had to deal with days of some guy spamming another guy's dox.
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>>499934242
There is a setting that you can enable, if you're using items and you're going to play against someone that doesn't, then it "mirrors" the items you're using giving him the same items for the rest of the fight, just to make things fair.
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I wonder if the Glind race Daima introduced is completely retconning away the whole Core People or it's just making a few retcons while adding details to it. Like them being born from fruits and whatnot could be kept and all.

I also wonder if Xenoverse will acknowledge or ignore the changes to demon realm, since Towa and Dabura did talk about it being sealed. Probably will be ignored though, since unlike the whole "Chronoa lied about time traveling being a serious time in a throwaway line", demon realm changes are huge... And I doubt they'd dismiss it as "just a different timeline" like they did with GT, since GT isn't treated with much respect in Xenoverse.
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>>499934241
How can you meltdown over something that didn't happen as you've been thoroughly forced to admit both here and on the previous thread?
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>>499934186
At least I have some support, you have nothing which is why you're replying to yourself over and over again in the last thread like a mindbroken pup begging for attention.
>>499934653
>Didn't happen
>In reality, it happened, multiple times
Keep coping
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>>499934580
We'll know later but it's definitely doing away with the 'not-sex reproduction', otherwise Shin having a brother and sister wouldn't make sense unless it's a weird fruit thing.
Also the Demon Realm in Xenoverse and DBH was never consistent, let's be honest.
Either Core People were never part of any actual stories and the lore didn't make much sense.
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>>499934717
>I have SOME support! It's just me responding to myself but still count!
Imagine admitting you got so asshurt on 4chan you needed support.
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>>499934717
>I-i-it totally happened I swear!
And yet you ran away from the argument in tears and started shitting up this one to feel better. Curious.
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>>499935106
>>499935303
>Samefagging once more
Kek
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>>499935463
>Running again
That's what I thought.
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>>499934867
It already goes against the Super Exciting Guide released in 2009, which was used as a basis for the origin of them in the Zamasu arc. Zamasu always implied that he was born as a civilized god that is above than those pesky mortals.
But now it is revealed that he actually comes from a Mortal realm, and a extremely dangerous one, and it feels like a retcon (a funny one, but still)
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Sparking zero tier list?
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>>499935840
1. My favorite character
2. Your favorite character
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>>499935763
>Zamasu always implied that he was born as a civilized god that is above than those pesky mortals.
Which never made sense because the Super Exciting Guide and the Daizenshuu both said that Kaioshins come from a mortal race with a lifespan of 75K years, where they spend their days studying in case they're selected to become a Kai through a lottery.
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>>499930334
There's a ton of crazy DP4s. Try Bardock, Tapion, Scouter Vegeta, Teen Gohan base, or Early Piccolo
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>>499935947
Then he's a retard, another nail in the coffin of the Goku Black arc. I still like it but I have to turn my brain off with every single rewatch.
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>>499935763
>>499935947
Gods in DB were always selected amongst Mortals. The one exception were Kaioshins who were born from golden fruits.
Something Zamasu himself retconned since he was a Kaio who got promoted to apprentice Kaioshin by Gowasu.
Which should have been impossible since you're either born one or you're not.
Post-Zamasu, the only 'divine by birth' being were the Angels, which is why they were the ONLY ones who'd be sparred by Zeno during the TOP.
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>>499935938
Who's your favorite character?
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>>499935586
running these nuts across your face bitch lmao
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>>499936364
Kek, based.
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>>499936448
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>>499936364
>>499936403
>Took 10 minutes to come up with that cope and high five himself in desperation
Sub 60 IQ is starting to sound generous.
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>>499934580
>since GT isn't treated with much respect in Xenoverse
It got shown even when nobody expected it, stop your schizo headcanon. Every official media treats GT with respect, only the autistic fanbase constantly starts their childish console wars.
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>>499936645
Based
>>499936613
Still malding about Daima retconning Super out of existence?
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>>499933137
Glorio says Glinds are sophisticated, so that implies some sort of royalty, though, still funny for a race that isn't even top royalty in the demon realm are the ones allowed to become gods elsewhere.

>>499934867
>unless it's a weird fruit thing.
It could mean they're born from the same branch, but yeah, probably something they'll do away with (Or most likely, never even mention).

>Also the Demon Realm in Xenoverse and DBH was never consistent, let's be honest.
Well yeah, but the one consistent thing about it is "It's sealed and Towa/DaburaMechikabura want to unseal it", which doesn't work with Daima's claim that it still exists and is merely isolated. Would be funny if Xenoverse decided to claim Daima's demon realm is what's been going on all along but Dabura/Towa thought it was sealed because they simply couldn't find it.

>>499935763
Glorio does talk like Glind are "sophisticated", and his wording does imply they don't live in the demon realm anymore, so Zamasu could always have been thinking he was from this god species, unaware he's actually from a possibly high class race from the demon realm.

>>499936229
>Then he's a retard, another nail in the coffin of the Goku Black arc
Zamasu being a hypocrite and a retard was always part of the point anyway.
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>>499936351
A genius, just like me Dr. Wheelo.
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>>499936596
Twitter is that way.
>>499936229
Anon, why would you turn your brain off watching the Black arc just because Zamasu is retarded? Him being retarded is the entire point. Half the fucking jokes in the arc are about how he's delusional and literally just talking to hear his own voice.
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>>499936857
Not because of Zamasu, but because of Trunks, his inconsistent power level, and the whole finale with the Spirit Sword of Hope being enough to destroy Zamasu's body, a guy that tanked a Final Kamehameha from Vegito Blue without a scratch.
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Do all characters have roughly the same animation/windup speed when it comes to using blasts that can cause clashes?
like eraser cannnon or an uncharged kamehamea
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>>499930128
>the mere mortals become COSMIC DESTROYERS
>the filthy demons become CREATORS OF LIFE
Reverse much?
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>>499936743
>Retard was the GT fag all along
God, why does every meltdown lead back to the /dbs/ reject?
Also how are you supposed to mald about something that never happened?
>>499936775
The seal thing seems to come from DBH and Xenoverse misinterpretation Toriyama's 'Light Barrier Seal' that stop travels within the demon realm and the entire 'Warp-Sama thing'.
I guess they could go with 'By 'unseal it', they meant 'get rid of Warp-Sama and the light seal'.
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>>499937030
Yeah, Trunks jump up and down a lot powerwise in that arc.
But to be fair, Zamasu's body was basically collapsing on it's own AND ultimately, Zamasu just use Trunks's attack to ascend to a higher form.
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>>499937105
No, GT Goku has one of the slowest Kamehameha in base and Pan has the same Kamehameha but she fires it quicker.
>>499937152
>That never happened
It's happening, every new episode introduces another retcon for Super.
>Muh /dbs/ out of nowhere
I already told you that I don't lurk in that place you mindbroken nigger.
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>>499937105
I feel like some are faster but I didn't really test it.
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>>499936645
I said that more so because of the half assed DLC it got, and IIRC Trunks was explaining what's up with GT to the player character and the player character didn't care, and Trunks also seething at GT Trunks so much (Which is really out of character), so I got the impression they didn't care much about GT there.

Though I should've said "treated as a spin-off" and not "treated with disrespect".
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>>499937361
>It really is the /dbs/ reject again and he think I'm his boogeyman
Take your meds, that'll probably solve your issue of seeing shit that never happened.
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Zamasu is basically compared to Goku several times in term of pure heartedness, which OG DB made clear was code for 'retardation'.
That should tell you everything you need to know about how you're supposed to see Zamasu's plan.
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>>499937592
I remember in Xenoverse 1 when a GT DLC pack with shit like GT Trunks (as a costume) and Pan outsold the Resurrection F pack that released and had a promotion boost by it's own movie.
>>499937718
>Keeps speaking about /dbs/ completely unprovoked
Yeah, you were mindbroken by some people there, I supposed nobody on that cesspol liked you and your meltys which is why you're trying to fuck up this place now.
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>>499937152
>The seal thing seems to come from DBH and Xenoverse misinterpretation Toriyama's 'Light Barrier Seal' that stop travels within the demon realm and the entire 'Warp-Sama thing'.
I forget, did Toriyama even talk about these things in databooks? Because Core Person got some noticeable changes compared to Glind, and it's possible the same happened with the Demon Realm, assuming Toriyama really talked about it, since all I remember is that it was depicted as being at a separated plane from the universes, I think... It's been a while...
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>>499937985
Try that cope in thread you weren't caught shitting up again, /dbs/ reject. Hope your /a/ expires soon.
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>>499938356
You have multiple boogeymen in your mindbroken head and now you're mixing them up just to cope, pathetic and shameful display.
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>>499938351
There's nothing about it in anything published but I'm assuming they were going off of some of his notes and whatever shit he'd say when they asked him.
It just feel like the whole 'sealing' thing line up just enough with the Warp-Sama + light barrier thing to be two different interpretation of the same random Toriyama lore note.
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>>499938479
Can you do anything but parrot whatever line someone hurt with you 10 minutes ago, /dbs/ reject?
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>>499937152
I can't believe this whole time Towa/Dabura were just trying to get the password to their account back
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>>499939202
That would be such a fitting villain motivation for a Toriyama bad guy.
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>>499926780
To be fair, one of the dataminers did say that Oozaru Kid Goku WAS supposed to be playable at one point. It just makes me wonder WHY wasn't this added in? He should have the easiest, most basic moveset out of all the giants, so it wouldn't take the devs too long to add him I think.
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>>499938557
Thinking of it, DBO has Towa around, maybe and since Toriyama was involved with it, maybe the way they talk about the demon realm can give a hint of how sealed the demon realm is or isn't...

Like, it's possible they misinterpreted yeah, although it is also possible Toriyama said it was indeed sealed but changed his mind when actually working on it.

Whatever it is the case, at the bare minimum it sounds like there is some sort of sealing and it's hard to access, which Dimps decided to heavily connected with their OCs.

>>499939202
More like they lost their passports...
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>>499939581
>More like they lost their passports...
Which is funny because they stole time-passports in their DBO origin, that's how they time travel.
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>>499866498
>>499924606
Anything else I should change here?
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>>499939446
>we were robbed of base brianne
fuck spike, fuck sparking zero, fuck it all
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Now I think about it didn't DB Fusions have an "outer world" race that applied to demon realm shits like Towa and gods like Shin? That race is basically Daima's demon realm races now
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>>499940378
There's always DLC
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>>499940309
Looks fine to me so far.
>>499940443
It also included Buus.
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>>499940443
The outerworld race in Fusions applied to Kais, Demons, and Majins. I think it even had some Janemba-like options, but it's been a while since I played the game so I can't remember.
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>>499940443
Fusions also had a similar world like Daima's demon realm, multiple levels separated by barriers.
Fusions got the lore right, unlike DBS
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>>499940727
It's weird how Xenoverse gave the Janemba stuff to the Friezas.
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Okay let's get down to the ream important business here. Did Daima make potaras permanent again or not?
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>>499939983
I haven't found a profile of Towa's that says that... Also I dunno about Dabura being in DBO, as far as I've seen Towa didn't seem to be related to him there (Which explains why her name isn't a reference to a song like his').
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>>499941105
50/50, Daima is directly contradicting what was already established by DBS, at least once per episode, who knows what would be the state of the "canon" after Daima's conclusion.
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>demon (namekian)
>demon (others)
>mortal (others)
>mortals (saiyan)
>mortals (human)
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>>499941291
I hope so. That was one of the gayest retcons DBS shat out.
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>>499941105
The gas within Buu causing a fusion to end can mean potaras are permanent now, though it could still be a combination of both explanations, as in potaras are permanent with Kaioshins but the gas within Buu can undo them.
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>>499931265
To memory, it was argued whether he could wipe a planet or bust one right? Either way that'd put him somewhere between Piccolo and Raditz in the Saiyan Saga being generous. That being said his feat of kicking Saitama to the moon has never been replicated in Z and is way more impressive then DBZ's kung fu in total.
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>>499941362
>>499940859
>>499940443
Fusionschads win again
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>>499941730
>That being said his feat of kicking Saitama to the moon has never been replicated in Z
Something similar to that was shown in GT https://youtu.be/Ay7G-DcLUNo
That worldwide punch was insane.
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>>499941105
you should instead ask yourself if "buu gas" is a different type of magic from the magic used by a dragonball wish. shenron only being able to use white magic is an assumption made by gomah, not a truth
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>>499942168
I completely forgot about that not gonna lie. That's impressive.
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>>499942186
>shenron only being able to use white magic is an assumption made by gomah, not a truth
The characters doing the loredump exposition during the first episodes or chapters of a series are the embodiment of the author, Gomah may be wrong with some future statements, but the white magic and dark magic thing is already set in stone considering that we're going to get an Evil, Red Porunga that uses Black Magic with the Tamagami Dragon Balls in the future episodes.
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>>499940710
>Looks fine to me so far.
Do you mean the first version or second?
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>>499941291
By '50/50', he means that Daima 100% changed nothing to DBS and Daima directly lead to the next DBS arc.
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>>499942639
I mean what I've said, cope all you want, Daima is actively retconning Super.
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>>499941105
>Did Daima make potaras permanent again or not?
Daima changed nothing, Potaras are still permanent for Kaioshins and temporary for mortals.
>>499942540
The second one.
>>499942186
>shenron only being able to use white magic is an assumption made by gomah
That's not what Gomah said at all.
>>499942474
Again, not what Gomah said, what Gomah said is that the Z fighters's power would protect them from dark magic / a 'dark' wish but not a white one.
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>>499942694
>I meant it!
Won't make it true. Reality won't change just because you really what it, which is why we're 2 threads where everyone make fun of you with 0 retcons.
If Daima does set up DBS's next arc / movie, will you get on your knees, bow your forehead on the ground and beg for forgiveness?
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>>499943112
Reality already changed when Daima released and retconned Super
>0 retcons
Everyone, even the normies are complaining about the retcons, you're the only one coping pretending that it doesn't exist.
>Muh future DBS arc/movie
Cope, if we get a movie with that new Janemba, it won't be called "DBS", DBS is dead.
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>>499943389
So reality didn't change since that didn't happen.
>Everyone, by which I mean me
Still 0 retcon you can even find.
>Not daring to reply
Even you know you're wrong, which is why you don't dare say yes.
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>>499943573
It already happened, you're denying reality
>muh 0 retcons
I already posted every single retcon Daima has made in the first 3 episodes during the last thread, it is futile for me to post it again when you're going to dismiss the whole thing like the mindbroken retard you are.
>Not daring to reply
Reply to what? Your schizoid obsession with complete strangers? Sorry, I'll forget you in a couple of hours, and I don't really care about this whole convo as much as you do, I already know that I'm right.
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>>499942186
>>499942474
Some of you are genuinely watching the show with your eyes closed.
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Long time fighting game player here, I've been playing and mastering fightin since the frreaking SNES and Sparking Zero makes no sense to me, anyone else feeling this way?

Game feels like the blocking is super awkward and the combos are just weird to me in that there seems to just be like 2 or 3 and they are all mostly the same

Not trolling, genuinely looking for advice here
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>>499943875
>I swear it happened!
Too bad it still didn't.
>Lots of cope babbling, 0 retcons
It's futile for you to repost the stuff you already got embarrassed about
>If I pretend I can't read, I won't look retarded
It's been multiple hours, multiple anons taking turn making fun of you and multiple threads and you're still mad.
And you know you're wrong so you don't even dare say yes to the movie thing because you know it's coming.
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>>499944013
Sparking 0 is pretty unique, alongside the Budokai Tenkaichi, Raging Blast and Xenoverse series.
Approaching it like a normal fighting game probably won't help.
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>>499944013
>anyone else feeling this way?
To the contrary, I actually have a hard time grasping the mechanic of classic, 2D/3D fighting games that are not arena fighters.
>Game feels like the blocking is super awkward
Take a look at this channel, he explained blocking in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HgHFTY3sLg
>and the combos are just weird to me in that there seems to just be like 2 or 3
You can extend your combos using Y and A on Xbox controller, just don't repeat the same move twice because it'll send the enemy away
>>499944112
>Still coping about no retcons
Must be hard being blind huh
>Embarrassed
>Says the guy who was mocked by the whole thread
Uh huh
>multiple anons
I'm extremely curious about these "multiple anons", every single one of them type the same way, post the same way, and they keep replying with the same schizoid arguments that you use.
Funny, I know that pattern recognition may be difficult for some people, but you just take it to another level (or, you're pretending to be retarded for the sake of your own argument, but still).
Daima? Actively retconning Super.
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>>499944270
It's just insane that this is a fighting game and I can't even consistently do a throw is like what I can't wrap my head around. Everything seems really simple yet weirdly context based on timing that ranges from easy to the most punishing timing ever. It's a REALLY weird experience as a fighting game player.
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Do you get health back if you fuse mid match and if so how much?
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how do fuckers keep their combo string going but when i start doing mine they super counter me. are people just spamming super counters when they get hit?
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>a whole thread gone to shit because one guy started seething about being laughed at in an earlier thread
Groovy.
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>>499944587
Don't bother, this guy is some resident schizo that malds and cries at everyone that disagrees with him, if you make him mad he'll call you a "/dbs reject" he's been at it for years at this point.
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Is berserk Kale good in S0?
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>>499944648
The primary purpose of the game is to "look just like in my animu" and that dictates what can or cannot be done.
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>>499944992
Yeah she can go back to base then back to berserk and get a full bar of ki.
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>>499944587
>Not accepting my delusion is a cope!
Won't change reality, sorry.
>No u!
You're so mad about being laughed at consistently.
>Everyone who laugh at me is the same person! Things that make me cry are schizo!
>I-i-it's funny I say through clenched teeth!
How does it feel to still be mad hours later? I thought you were about to forget.
>I-i-i repeated my cope!!!
0 retcons and 2 threads of everyone laughing at you BTW.
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>>499944826
GT fags are like that, nothing you can do about it.
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>>499944940
So this is what it looks like when a sperg get consistently bullied for years, they start thinking they had one specific bully the entire time.
Sorry you can't handle the fact that '/dbs/ reject' is a common term here and that you clearly stand out as one.
Maybe try talking like a normal person one day.
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>>499944826
That's what he gets for taking DB lore seriously.
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>>499944587
>>499944940
He's been at it for 2 years now, he probably got mindbroken by some guy on /a/ and he still hasn't been able to get over it.
I still have my suspicions that he's some hapa schizo from /vmg/ but I'm not sure.
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>>499945665
>Be a mobile game newfag
>Consistently get into retarded fights
>Keep blaming his mobile game boyfriend instead of realizing he's the problem.
How about you stay in /vmg/ instead of continuously trying to make your bullying into our problem?
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>>499945659
So not serious you're still mad about it.
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>>499945883
How about you stop shitting up this place when someone disagrees with you?
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>>499945665
Or much more likely, /dbs/ rejects aren't welcome here.
I know you're a spic but you have to be particularly retarded to think /dbs/ is popular anywhere outside itself.
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This isn't even an argument about anything DB related anymore, now it's once more just 100+ replies of "No u"
Each one of you involved needs to fucking get shoved into a garbage compactor
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>>499946126
>He got so mindbroken he's going through the archive of every single instance of someone being called '/dbs/ reject' and attributing it to his new boogeyman
Nah, you should really just go back to your containment board.
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>>499946238
You're the one acting like a "/dbs/ reject"
>>499946416
No, I'm not shitting up the thread unlike you.
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>>499946515
The fact you always repeat the last thing that made you mad is how we know it's you every single time.
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>>499946062
have sneed
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>>499946654
>we
>1 minute between posts
>still samefagging
Jej
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>>499946416
>>499946515
>>499946654
>>499946774
>>499946813
Shut the fuck up and die
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>>499946515
How is screaming about /vmg/ and your personal issues not shitting up the thread?
I'm not even involved in the entire argument, I'm just annoyed at you consistently bringing other boards's shit at our doorsteps.
Like that one anon who kept namefagging with your Sparking 0 name and talking about trannies, all because you wouldn't shut up about your hapa boyfriend.
This is an anonymous game general to talk about dragon ball, not a kiwi farms thread about your sitcom nemesis.
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>>499946925
okay cope though
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>>499946813
Cooldown is more than 1 minute, retard, you just proved your 'no u' samefagging is a cope.
You being unable to understand that is also how we keep catching you.
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>>499947065
Less talking, more dying.
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>>499947317
I don't care what a retard need.
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>>499947317
>>499947336
Keep crying bitch nigga
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>>499944648
There's a ton of combos in the game, it's just that a good handful of them are follow-ups to the basic bread-and-butter combos. Go to the pause menu, there should be a moveset list that pretty much explains everything. And don't forget, the super training should also give you plenty of pointers on the stuff you can pull off.
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>>499946980
>How is screaming about /vmg/ and your personal issues not shitting up the thread?
This is funny because you're always mad at me for some reason
>I'm not even involved in the entire argument, I'm just annoyed at you consistently bringing other boards's shit at our doorsteps.
Shit on the guy that's fucked up the thread first, not me. I'm lurking here since the GT trailer for Sparking Zero dropped, not my fault that the resident schizo from /vmg/ tried to fuck things up as soon as I posted a screenshot of a lobby with my nickname on it and now there's this guy, I think they're one and the same because their schizoid posts are similar and I have the nameschizo filtered.
> all because you wouldn't shut up about your hapa boyfriend
Again I mentioned him like 5 times in 50 days, there's no reason you should be butthurt about it, why are you mad? I'm seriously asking
>This is an anonymous game general to talk about dragon ball, not a kiwi farms thread about your sitcom nemesis.
Redirect that seethe to the guy who's shitting up the thread, I posted about Daima and he had a melty about my post, I'm just following up the convo because I stand from what I've said about the series (and it's funny how he exposes himself as a samefag over and over again, not going to lie) Do you have any other issue with me?
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>>499927695
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>>499948474
>Everyone is always mad at me but I won't question why
Can't expect much more from a mobile game subhumans.
>Shit on the guy that's fucked up the thread first
So you.
>Again I mentioned him like 5 times
That number should be 0
>Redirect that seethe to the guy who's shitting up the thread
So still you.
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>>499948849
>No, you!
But you fucked up the thread here >>499928019
and here >>499929170.
You're shitting up the thread, I just react and reply to it, nothing more, it's on you.
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>>499947937
You're so mad that you'll never be white.
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>>499949063
No, you shitting up the thread is on you.
This isn't your special ed school 'I got mad I was called a retard' isn't an excuse.
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>>499949304
>2 and a half minutes later
>what is 4chanX
Uhuh, I just reply to posts that are replying to me, nothing more, you started this whole debacle in the last thread, let people have their own opinions, retard.
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>>499928019
Second post, best post. Completely vindicated by all the asshurt it unleashed.
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>>499949591
>>499928019
Samefagging once again?
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>>499949514
You constantly bitching about your hapa boyfriend whenever you're not happy isn't an opinion.
I don't even know what you're trying to say with the time thing, your post only has 1 reply.
>What is 4chan X
Well answer the question since you bring it up.
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>>499949874
>Constantly
>5 times in the span of 50 days
Hmmm? You're mentioning him more than I do at this point
>Pretends to be the retarded
Great.
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>>499928019
>All those (you)'s
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
>>499948474
Genuine question: How autistic are you? Did you see a specialist? If not I recommend booking an appointment.
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>>499949874
>>499950092
>2 minutes between posts
Blatant samefagging.
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Video games?
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The two of you should fuck each other in the ass than continue with this constant droning dribble. Nobody in this thread gives a fuck about what you guys are arguing about. It's been like this for FUCKING 5 OR 6 MONTHS NOW. Every topic has been different, but I can fucking tell it's the same two damn people arguing with each other, it's like you can smell each others farts from miles away. Do you guys have anything better to do than to disrupt our thread? I thought for sure Sparking Zero would've calmed you guys down, but you keep going at it like ravenous basement dwellers on a mediocre holiday in from work, if you even go to work.

Do either of you guys even play Dragon Ball games?
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>>499950053
That's 5 times too many and you brought him up multiple times in this thread alone, stop lying and shitting up the thread
Lol, you can't even explain yourself so you're deflecting. Come on, what's 4chan X? Answer the question.
>>499949689
>>499950229
>>499950053
>3 minutes between posts
Seething samefagging.
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>>499950321
>This level of schizophrenia
If you think everyone who argue on 4chan is always the same person, I have bad news for you.
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>>499950321
> It's been like this for FUCKING 5 OR 6 MONTHS NOW
Impossible, I've been here for 50-52 days? I don't remember at this point. But I remember that he picked a fight with some other anon before the Sparking Zero Early Access and they were arguing about Piccolo Daimao being a "Makai/Makozu" or something like that.
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>>499950321
>>499950648
Sparking 0 has been terrible for this general because it brought retarded newfags like you.
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>>499950648
>they were arguing about Piccolo Daimao being a "Makai/Makozu" or something like that.
There's no argument, Piccolo Daimao is a Mazoku, it's in OG DB.
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>>499950772
>retarded newfags
As opposed to your precious resident schizo that shits up the thread when someone disagrees with him? From what I've seen in the archives he's been doing the same for 2 years now.
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>>499950321
>Do either of you guys even play Dragon Ball games?
I do and I had great fun talking about Daima and what the lore would mean for Xenoverse and DBH, it's not my fault some autistic spic got into fights with everyone just because I corrected him once about Potara and Core People lore hours ago.
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>>499951095
>resident schizo that shits up the thread
Right now that's you and you said you've only been here for 50 days, newfag. And you're not precious.
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>>499950772
Wha, I've been here since like around XV1. Unfortunately all my old saves were fucked up when my old PC crashed out, but I've been in these threads for almost a decade at this point. Which reminds me, who here currently in this thread has been around for that long? Pepsi, Hollow, Majora, the other Majora, Meaty, is anyone from back when still here?

I know Rechow still pops in from time to time.
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>>499951095
Crazy idea but people were fighting on /vg/ before 2022.
>>499951394
I've been here for around 5 years.
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>>499951176
2 posts about what I think about Daima were enough to get 5-6 replies from you calling me
>retard
>liar
>schizo begging for attention
>mindbroken
And so on, the only thing I said to you was "cope" in my 2nd post, that's enough to elicit this kind of melty on your part? You're broken.
>>499951565
One retard doing a melty, destroying multiple threads because someone dared to speak against him is not the same.
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>>499950321
Actually, I've been pretending to be one or the other at times. There might be more people like me. Perhaps even the OGs 41%'d themselves a long time ago, and it's all just larp.
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>>499948779
>the weak should fear the strong
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So "glind" is actually グリンド(人) gurindo(jin), from
団栗 / どんぐり / ドングリ donguri, acorn, so it should be something like
>just "gurindo" race
>"grindo" race
>"corna" race?
>"ornca" race?
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>>499951902
>I acted like an autistic retard and got dogpiled on for it
I'm not your mom, I don't give a shit that the other kids were mean to you.
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>>499950320
Been checking daily and no not yet (assuming you mean that guy also making EoZ Goku mod and other stuff)
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>>499952232
>2 posts talking about Dragon Ball
>Autistic
I'm not complaining about someone being mean, it's funny that he's accusing me of "shitting up the thread" when he was the one who did it in the first place, both times completely unprovoked.
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>>499951902
>One retard doing a melty, destroying multiple threads because someone dared to speak against him is not the same.
Nah, it's pretty common on 4chan, your tantrums don't stand out that much.
>>499952127
Wait, shouldn't acorn puns be reserved for Krillin and his family?
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>>499952439
You are quite literally just complaining about people being mean to you, nobody is even arguing anymore and yet you insist on continuing to shit up the thread over people being mean to you. Do you want asspats and to be told you did good or something?
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>>499952474
chesnut =/= acorn
The 栗 guri in 団栗 donguri is indeed what's used to write chesnut in japanese tho, 栗 is kuri like in Kurilin, but combined with the other kanji the sound changes to "guri"
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>>499952474
Krillin's a chestnut, though so is Kuriza.
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>>499952643
>nobody is even arguing anymore
I'm not arguing either, I'm just explaining things as they are
>over people being mean
It' just one guy doing a melty because I said some things about Daima and Super.
>Do you want asspats and to be told you did good or something?
Why are you posting like a passive agressive cunt?
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>>499952917
So you're indeed just an autist begging for approval.
And yes, it's just you having a meltdown, I get it, you can stop repeating it?
Openly mocking you isn't passive aggressive, autist-kun.
Can you stop shitting up the thread now? And no, your shitting up of the thread wasn't justified, stop insisting.
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>>499944682
why wouldn't you spam it, it's a free combo breaker unlike bt3
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>>499952827
>>499952850
I would have thought acorns were close enough to chestnuts for it to stay within Krillin's overall theme.
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>>499953163
>You're shitting up the thread
>Not me, trying to openly mocking you despite not being DB related
I explained that he was lying in that post, I don't need your "approval"
>Can you stop shitting up the thread now? And no, your shitting up of the thread wasn't justified, stop insisting.
I don't know, can you? You're the only one following up with more replies.
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>>499953446
Ah so you think 'shitting up the thread' just means 'being mean to my autistic ass', that clears up the confusion.
I'll take that as a 'no, I'll keep shitting up the thread until I get the approval I want', good luck with that.
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>>499953659
>Replying 6-7 times to the same post about the same thing like a mindbroken retard isn't considered as "shitting up the thread"
I just replied to the melty
>The rest of that cope
You're actually shitting up the thread right now by following up this whole conversation with more useless shit that no one cares about, it'll stop as soon as you do.
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>>499954013
Have fun shitting up the thread for validation you won't get.
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>>499954248
I don't ask for validation unlike you, schizoid retard. It'll be funny watching you cope when Daima retcons DBS out of existence.
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>it's 2024 and still no version of tapion that summons limbs of hirudegarn as attacks and complete hirudegarn as an ultimate or finisher.
You'd think summoning demon limbs would become popular after sakurai did it with Bayonetta in smash.
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>>499954340
Yeah, you're not asking, you're just begging and crying for it.
Still won't get any. That's what you get for being an autist who shat up the thread
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>>499954606
Fuck off, Salagir.
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What did my bratty daughter Pan intend to express with this statement?
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>>499954663
Why are you shitting up the thread? I told you, there was no need to reply to me anymore if someone "shitting up the thread" bothered you so much. I know you're mindbroken so go ahead, keep fucking things up and since I'm feeling generous today I'll give you all the (You's) you want.
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>>499955079
That's a lot of words for 'I'm very mad I'm not getting validation for my autistic shitting up of the thread'.
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Just dropped in and I scrolled up like a hundred posts but it's still not clear what we are arguing about it looks like two nogs are just arguing about arguing
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>>499955236
Ok, keep going, let it go, that pent up rage
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>>499955074
She saw Gohan Black and thought he was cooler than her lame nerd dad.
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>>499955356
You're really not taking that lack of validation well.
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>>499955551
You're not taking it well tho, I'll use you as reference.
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>>499955328
There's no argument, argument was last thread and was just another 'TLDR: Retard doesn't understand a Dragon Ball episode and make it our problem'.
This thread, someone just made fun of the previous thread's retard and he's been screeching ever since and telling us he's been here for 50 days.
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>>499952850
>so is Kuriza.
What have Krillin and Freeza been up to?
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>>499955737
What was the argument last thread about so I can decide who was right
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>>499955630
That did not even make sense, are you having a stroke?
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>>499955328
There's no argument, previous thread was fucked up by some retard crying and malding because Iyoku and Toriyama retconned DBS with the new Daima loredump.
This thread, that exact same schizo began samefagging like there's no tomorrow just because he got BTFO by facts and logic in the last thread. You can easily see how much me samefagged because he sticks out like a sore thumb.
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>>499955817
The argument was just autism over if Daima changing the Core People lore count as a retcon or not since the Core People lore was never actually used.
Then there was another argument about if we should talk about dragon ball lore at all.
And then mixed with both an argument about Daima making Super not canon or not, despite the leaks saying Daima is setting up a new Super movie.
I think that's it, any other argument was either minor or I didn't notice it.
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Justice for Tora. He's Bardock best friend and Number 2 and always gets passed on over Fasha despite being more important than her and being more of a character simply because she has a pair of tits.
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>>499956020
Thanks, I've decided you were wrong and he was right.
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>>499956189
>tits
Worth it though.
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Why doesn't anybody else play frieza? He seems pretty viable to me. Z Frieza gets 1 1/2 hp bars back from three 1 bar transforms, his final form has an unblockable UB, and his 100% final form has 2 (TWO) unblockable supers and instaspark.

Super Frieza has dogshit skills unfortunately, but his golden Frieza transformation gives him 100% ki, allowing him to extend a combo with a super. In fact, if you land his unblockable super in base you get a guaranteed rush super in golden. It does cost a lot at 3 sp for a transformation, but since you're not using your shit skills as super Frieza it's ok. Golden Frieza has wild sense and instaspark and attacks very fast but not so fast that he is ez to super counter.

Still haven't played mecha Frieza, but his skills and supers seem to be generally better than base Super Frieza and most of Z Frieza.
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>>499956189
>Tora
The first jewish Saiyan.
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>>499955817
Daima retconned Super by making the Kaioshin race (previously a godly race) just another race of mortals living in a Demon Realm shithole (which makes Zamasu's motivation dumber because he's a filthy ningen too).
Potara's and the quantity of Shenron's wishes were retconned too, which adds up to the whole Kibito and Shin defusing before Super debacle. DBS may as well be fanfiction at this point. Oh and Daima is definitely not setting up a future "DBS" movie, I bet it'll have another name when Iyoku gets a hold on the rights and BTFO's Shueisha.
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>>499956458
His name is Toma in Japanese, because tomato.
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>>499956484
Sounds wrong so I'm siding with whoever was against that.
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>>499956291
>>499956839
We know you're samefagging.
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>>499956131
I think the Shinjin lore being retconned is lame even if it wasn't theoretically part of a series. It shouldn't matter if something is specifically in an anime or manga or not, we traditionally judge canonicity by sourcing information to Toriyama, and it's irritating if he contradicts himself, I think he just genuinely forgot he already had lore for the Kaio and Kaioshin, and that Zamasu even existed apparently
That's my position at least
>>499956484
Most Shinjin have always been ningen, even with the old Kaishin lore Zamasu was originally a ningen who was promoted to Kaio later on. In fact there is no evidence any god in Dragon Ball was ever born as such, this has always been the case even since Kami. However I find it very weird if they come from the Makai and especially if they need to travel with spaceships and such, that is extremely stupid imo.
I suppose whichever guy was complaining about the retcon is in the right but I'm used to selectively accepting things into my personal headcanon so it doesn't bother me too much
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>>499956585
I know, I'm just making a joke.
>>499956401
Nobody picks their character over viability, they just pick whoever they think is the coolest since they're kids / who they always picked when they were a kid.
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>>499957025

So nobody likes frieza? Wtf? I guess I see no Cell players either. I guess that is true, my teams always end being a combination of Frieza piccolo and trunks, and those just happen to be my favorites.
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>>499956585
But tomato is a fruit.
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>>499956940
>We
You and the voices in your head?
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>>499956401
I like Frieza but I like Cooler more.

>>499957025
>tfw my favorite character is also strong and makes people mad
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>>499956941
>and it's irritating if he contradicts himse
It's not really a contradiction if it hasn't been put into a work yet.
Just look at how many scripts a movie goes through before being filmed.
Or how many drafts a book goes through before being published.
Changing stuff until you get a final version is an important part of the creative process.
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>>499957025

So that explains it, Yajirobe has been everyone's favorite character in the series for a long, long time.
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>>499957364
But Toriyama publicly said and released that information already, and he presented it as fact without reservation. If he was saying "I had an idea that it could be like this" that would be one thing, but the Kaishin thing was asserted as matter of fact for a guide. It was an "ex cathedra" statement, so to say.
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>>499957167
>So nobody likes frieza? Wtf?
Not when it comes to play AS them in the Sparking format at least.
>>499957439
Meme characters don't count and you know it.
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>>499957529
To be fair, the guide wasn't made BY him, it was made by people who looked over his work, his personal notes and basically everything he put down while making DB.
It's like how the lore in Tolkien's notes and the lore in Tolkien's books are VERY different, same for his letters.
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>>499957546
I love Frieza and cooler's tail moves
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Okay, so let me get this straight. In Sparking Zero, transformations and fusions cost skill stocks. But fusions require two compatible characters on the same team. And some transformations can't be reverted. But what are the extra benefits of transforming and fusing? I heard some characters restore a little health when transforming. Do fusions also restore health too? And do any characters gain ki or temporary buffs when transforming or fusing?
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>>499957874
Fusions have better stats, including health so if you switch them out, they'll recover a lot more health than if you stayed unfused.
It's not worth losing two characters in most cases tho so it's mostly there to be like the anime.
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>>499957727
I don't have an exact transcript of the Super Exciting Guide but Kanzenshuu says it's a direct quote from a Toriyama interview section. So I'm under the impression it is a deliberate statement he made with knowledge of what it was for.
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>>499958139
He said it was good and basically as accurate as possible.
I don't think staying beholden to something just because you said it in an interview or put it in a guidebook for super fans decades ago is very healthy in terms of storytelling.
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>>499958282
Then he just shouldn't say these things in the first place. It is during this whole period where he thought he was done with Dragon Ball and it was an old finished project of his that he was particularly liberal with interview statements, seemingly. I get why he changed his mind but it is irritating, and I rather prefer the old version.
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>>499927539
Note is pure!
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>>499958050
>It's not worth losing two characters in most cases
So with fusions it's better to switch one out and fuse when both are low on health? Like a last resort strategy to squeeze more value out of two injured fighters.
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So far Daima has only contradicted anime and guides so it's fine if you ask me
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>>499958773
not when i'm done with her
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>>499958779
Yes, but in DP battles it's usually more expensive to take the two fusable fighters than it is to just take the fusion. I don't think you even CAN even fit SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta on a DP team.
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>>499958803
It didn't even contradict the anime.
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guide publisher stocks are way down since all info can randomly change at any time
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>>499956941
I don't know man, I don't think Daima and DBS are in the same continuity at all, there are far too many contradictions between the 2 series in just what, 3 episodes?
>However I find it very weird if they come from the Makai and especially if they need to travel with spaceships and such, that is extremely stupid imo.
Agreed, I always thought that Zamasu was born from a divine tree and was some sort of prodigy from the get go, a godly being without a point of reference of how to deal with the mortals and their reasonings, and the only reason for him to hate the Ningen was because of the flawed teachings of Gowasu, if he was born in the Demon Realm, surrounded by violence and savages, then his reasoning doesn't make sense (unless they reveal that the Glind live in an isolated part of the world or the 2nd Demon Realm is peaceful, I doubt so because a Tamagami is protecting a Dragon Ball there and nasty evil shitters like Piccolo Daimao come from that place too)
With the new loredump we know that Zamasu is part of that realm full of savages and brutes but he already knows that Ningen like the Glind people can learn to behave, so there's no point in losing faith for the mortals.
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>>499958568
I didn't like the old version, it made no sense for a species to have sexes but reproduce asexually / not at all (just naturally growing on a tree is hardly reproducing after all, might as well call a factory line 'reproduction for robots).
As for the new version, not much has been revealed yet so we'll see if I like it better.
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>>499958936
Goku literally said he thought potara defusion was impossible in the U6 arc after seeing Shin and Kibito
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>>499958803
>>499958936
It retcons the terminology used for Dabura, who is now a "Daimao" when he was strictly the Ankoku Makai no O in the original manga. Piccolo would also at least know what the Makai is but doesn't show any signs of doing so in the Buu saga. There's probably more but I'll need to think about it more.
>>499959190
There's no indication the Kaioshin have sexes. What makes them different from Namekians in this regard?
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>>499959137
Piccolo Daimao doesn't come from the demon realm, he came from Earth.
> I always thought that Zamasu was born from a divine tree
You thought wrong, only the golden fruits were divine and Zamasu wasn't one.
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>>499959360
Actually they call Abura the Daimao, Dabura is only called Mao at least in the first episode so at best you can say he has both titles and are interchangable which isn't a retcon
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>>499959360
>There's no indication the Kaioshin have sexes.
The old guidebook literally said they have males and females, anon.
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>>499959360
Dr. Arinsu has breasts and a feminine voice
>>499959431
The Unnamed Namekian that was a BPD bitch and Piccolo Daimao itself may be some examples of how Namekians can be truly evil and it may be a point of reference to the Namekians that decided to stay in the demon realm, they can also summon vicious creatures like Drum and Tambourine
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>>499959518
I was pretty sure he is explicitly called Dabura Daimao in episode 2. Either way that is still his position, Gomah becomes the Daimao because Dabura died, ergo Dabura was the Daimao. Surely that title would have been used in the Buu saga.
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>>499959360
>but doesn't show any signs of doing so in the Buu saga.
I mean the Demon Realm get mentioned once in a throwaway line just before they jump Babidi and co, not much room for Piccolo to really say anything about it.
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>>499959845
There is a back and forth where Krillin comments on it and such. Piccolo would naturally have interjected if this lore had existed in Toriyama's mind at that time. Also Dabura and Babidi would probably have remarked on the presence of a Namek.
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>>499959757
>Surely that title would have been used in the Buu saga.
Why? It's just his demon realm title and Shin had no reasons to go into such details at the time.
>>499959667
Piccolo Daimao wasn't a Namekian anymore, he had become a Mazoku, Drum and Tambourine were summons but legitimately his actual children.
Think of it like how a human can become a Wendigo by being an evil cannibal.
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After finishing all the story modes I have taken my first steps into online. I fought one guy in a DP battle and he brought Blue Vegito against my shitter team, beat him down to one health bar with teen gohan and then murdered him with Guldo.

Why on earth would you bring a character like that to DP battle?
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I swear some of you niggers are looking for anything you can call a "retcon" and jumping around like caffinated chimps
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>>499960080
No human can become and Wendigo, and Piccolo Daimao was still a Namekian
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>>499959987
>Piccolo would naturally have interjected if this lore had existed in Toriyama's mind at that time
Sure but calling the absence of lore a contradiction is a stretch.
>Also Dabura and Babidi would probably have remarked on the presence of a Namek.
Anon, you forgot that at this point, Dabura and Babidi have been out of the demon realm for 5 million years, they should know that Namekians have left the demon realm and are in the universe by that point.
Especially since King Cold knew about Buu.
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>>499960080
>Why? It's just his demon realm title and Shin had no reasons to go into such details at the time.
Babidi also says it a few times. There are other kings of the lesser Makais, Dabura being the Daimao is a bit of an important distinction in that regard, he is like the High King or Emperor. They wouldn't use a lower title especially since they say it like he's *the* king.
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>>499960196
Cope, Daima retconned Supers like 4 times in 3 episodes.
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>>499960196
It's just a GT fag trying to find an excuse to pretend DBS is as non-canon as GT, don't mind him.
>>499960319
Because Babidi doesn't give a shit about the Demon Realm hierarchy, as you said, him being the Daimao only matter in the context of the 2 other demon realm kings existing and being talked about.
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>>499960306
>Anon, you forgot that at this point, Dabura and Babidi have been out of the demon realm for 5 million years
No Dabura only got out there recently at that time. Kaioshin was surprised to see Dabura under his control and in Daima Ep 1 the Warp or whatever it was notes that Babidi and Dabura passed through recently, which is presumably the time that Babidi took control of him.
>Especially since King Cold knew about Buu.
In the manga, Buu was created by Bibidi. Him being preexistent is only an interview statement.
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>>499960486
You keep repeating that and changing the number every time you have a meltdown, it's pretty pathetic.
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>>499959757
Bro Dabura being called demon king and great demon king in Daima isn't a retcon just because they didn't include "great" in the original series don't be obtuse on purpose
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>>499960525
>>499960695
>Malds twice in the span of 1 minute
Pathetic and completely unprovoked once more.
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>>499960591
>the Warp or whatever it was notes that Babidi and Dabura passed through recently
That was Arinsu, not Babidi and Dabura, anon.
>In the manga, Buu was created by Bibidi. Him being preexistent is only an interview statement.
So? Buu still rampaged across the universe with Babidi 5 million years ago and Babidi has been doing bullshit across the universe to unseal him since too.
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>>499960704
Sure, inconsistency is a better term than retcon. But it's still notable that the original manga deliberately distinguishes the terminology around the Makai and Majin Buu from that of the Mazoku, which Daima is taking in the opposite direction.
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>>499960790
>Me being wrong doesn't provoke people to correct me
Good job proving you got owned by two different anons because the cooldown is more than 1 minute.
And yes, everyone does agree you're pathetic.
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>>499960970
Let the retard mald, he wants to be the designated lorefag despite being proven wrong many times, he thinks he knows more than Toriyama himself.
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>>499960904
>That was Arinsu, not Babidi and Dabura, anon.
Quite sure it was both, they comment on Babidi and Dabura travelling through there.
>and Babidi has been doing bullshit across the universe to unseal him since too.
But Buu has been on Earth the whole time? How does doing things in the universe contribute to this?
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>>499960943
Anon, it's only 'notable' in that it's obvious they're doing it because there are multiple demon kings now so you need a specific word to describe THE big boss that was Dabura.
Also it's a Sandland reference since Satan is also called that IIRC.
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I'm glad the Potara's are now permanent once more, Vegitobros really need a W like this to make up for the lack of on-screen victories.
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>>499961097
>>499961248
>I-i-i gave myself support and told myself I totally won and can stop now!
Run away faster, bitch. 2 threads, 0 retcons.
Remember: Stop making shit up.
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>>499960970
Basically every DB game's content is on hold for months because Daima Fever and Sparking Zero didn't meet peoples expectations because all they do is talk about what the game isn't, what they don't want it to be, what it could be, what it could have been, what will it be and basically everyting EXCEPT what it is.
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>>499961285
Anon, why do you keep saying "anon" like you're LARPing as an anime character being subbed? It's weird.
>because there are multiple demon kings now
So there weren't in the manga, yes, that's what I'm saying.
>Also it's a Sandland reference since Satan is also called that IIRC.
Daimao is a common term, not just a Toriyama thing. More importantly it is the same title Piccolo used, and by all means the Buu saga deliberately avoids implying any association between Piccolo and the demonic things introduced there.
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>>499961343
Potara are still temporary for mortals, anon. They never stopped being permanent for Kaioshins.
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Now Daima has to explain why Supreme Kai and Kibito refused and why they disregarded Elder Kai's advice in Super by abusing the Dragon Balls when they could have used Majin Boo anytime.
It's not looking good for Super, bros.
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>>499961524
Sad state of affairs. I can definitely understand it, the flaws are blatant, but it's still fun as fuck.
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>>499961343
Daima follows a different continuity than DBS, don't worry, Potara's are permanent for mortals too
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>>499961576
>Anon, why are you addressing me in a normal way?
Is that a real question or you're just retarded?
>So there weren't in the manga, yes, that's what I'm saying.
So? A new title being used in a new context that need more precision isn't a retcon.
Yes, the Buu saga clearly differentiated Piccolo Daimao and Dabura because that's what mattered at the time, now what mattered is differentiating Dabura and the lesser demon kings.
Words used change depending on the context, that's how communication works.
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>>499961803
Don't forget that in Toriyama's outline in Super, there was no Vegito. So the whole fusion and Potara discussion probably didn't come from him.
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>>499961803
You're legitimately gonna kill yourself when Daima ends directly connecting back to Super and it shows.
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>it's 2024 and we're still passing on OG waifus in the games.
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>>499961965
In what way is saying "Anon," normal when literally every poster in this thread would be called that and it adds no information? Are you autistic or something?
>Words used change depending on the context, that's how communication works.
It's a bit like if the pope were to show up and was only called "Bishop". It's not wrong but realistically that's probably not what people would be mainly describing him as.
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>>499962049
Toriyama is the one who added Vegito after Toyotaro asked, please stop twisting stuff based on half remembered arguments on reddit.
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>>499962049
Toriyama's notes mention the fusion is temporary for Zamasu because he isn't a Kaioshin, so while Vegetto wasn't there, the fusion ending was.
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>>499962167
>Panty Dragon
Fake Waifu, actually an ugly lizard.
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>>499962167
Your pain is self-inflicted.
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>it's 2024 and still no Nakaratsu Bardock alt costume in the video games. Instead we got Dragon Ball Pooper version.
We've been robbed.
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>>499962152
I know that you're malding, you cannot help yourself which is why you keep crying and seething.
>muh dbs movie
DBS as a brand and continuation of the franchise is dead, the next movie won't be a follow up to it but it'll be a follow up for Daima. We're already in the process of Daima retconning DBS out of the main continuity.
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>>499962242
>Talking normally is autism
Anon, I understand you're extremely retarded and mad but it's not my problem.
Anon, you need to stop being an obvious newfag.
>Realistically
It would be if it was in the context of a local celebrity being literally named 'Pope' or being the leader of the 'Pope Clan'.
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>>499962302
I'd still consider it suspect because it means the Potara rule was just slapped on halfheartedly to accommodate for something Toriyama didn't intend to be there. I think the original manga stating Potara is permanent should take precedent over that.
In general we shouldn't put too much stock into any one detail of Super.
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>Why did Kibitoshin stay fused 4 years if he hated it?
>Why did he use the Namekian Dragon Balls to unfuse? Was Boo asleep?
>Why didn't Goku ask Shin in the U6 arc about them using Boo instead of the balls to defuse?
>Why did Goku ask Gowasu the reason they defused in the Boo arc if he already should know it?
Super? Not canon
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>It's 2024 and still no Kakarot as a what if character or alt costume
I guess Turles and Ginyu will suffice.
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>>499962494
>I-i-i know that you're like me!
Lol. Lmao.
Sorry but Super will never be non-canon like GT, there has been no retcon and we're in the process of setting up the next Super arc / movie as confirmed by actual leaks that have been proven true.
We know it, you know it and you're seething about it.
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>>499962512
Apparently you have to write out your quotations manually and don't know about highlighting or copying text. You really struggle to use the website and talk normally so I suppose I won't unnecessarily challenge you any further.
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>>499962167
Give me these girls first and we'll talk.
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>>499962763
>We
You and the voices in your head? Kek
>T-There's no retcoN!
See >>499962649
Go ahead, keep shitting up the thread.
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>>499962768
>You caught me being a newfag so I'm gonna shut up now
Wise decision, retarded newfag.
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The Boo sleeping thing is really dumb because in the Boo Saga there is a gag where Boo goes to sleep in his house for 5 seconds and comments on being thoroughly rested
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>>499962832
Double pure...
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What even constitutes as a fusion that can be "defused" inside Buu? Because he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo (Who permantently fused with Nail and Kami) and other than the Gotenks time limit that was supposed to happen anyway everything else other than Vegito hasn't been touched. Also not that Toriyama gives a shit about Heroes but Kid Buu has a Kibito Kai absorbtion in that game.
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>>499962980
Super is like that, I'm glad is non-canon now.
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>>499962890
*crimes you* you may cope and seethe as much as you want but you will never be uncrimed
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>>499962890
>T-t-the thing someone said to me earlier that I'm still crying about *nervous seething laugh*
You really don't like being reminded you're all alone on your suicide watch.
>S-s-see-
I'm seeing your cope that were laughed in the previous thread, yes, so we're still at 0 retcons.
>G-g-go ahead, keep bullying me!
I didn't need your permission, don't worry.
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Frieza soldier is playable but not this guy
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>>499963109
Shut up crimer.
>>499963185
I'm not reading that lol, you keep running in circles doing the same kind of melty over and over again, classic mindbroken, coping mechanism
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Is this some discordfag raid?
Post loli Pan, that scares them off
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>>499963081
In Japanese, Metamoran fusion is called Fusion(Fyujon) while Potara fusion is only called Merging(Gattai), although Fusion is also a form of Gattai, but Potara is never Fusion. So it is something categorically different. Goku observes the same thing you just said and notes that Fusion is fine inside Boo.
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>>499962980
Toriyama explained it in interviews and guidebooks that Buu goes through periods of activity and hibernation, Super only put it into practice by showing us his hibernation period.
Mister Satan even explains it.
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At least we know he has the weekends off at whatever job he has because the board was peaceful during the week even when the actual Daima episode came out on Friday.
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>>499963356
>Toriyama explained it in interviews and guidebooks
Unhealthily constrains storytelling so it doesn't matter, sorry.
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>>499963274
>I-i-i-i'm not reading you bullying me!
That's right, just respond when ordered while keeping your eyes on the ground, never daring to make shit up again. Know your place.
>>499963326
More like a Mexican from the mobile game general.
Same guy who had a meltdown over items in Sparking 0.
And yeah, post lolis, he always gets mad at it.
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>>499963373
>Peaceful during the week
The retard doing his melty has been at it for at least 2 years now.
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>>499963274
Oh that it I'm gonna crime you even harder next time
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>>499963081
Goku notes that fusion dance works within Buu, so Buu's gas unfuses one but not the other, for, some reason.
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>>499963543
I was talking about you. You're the only autist baby-talking about 'meltys'.
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>>499963543
Yesterday was super slow though. I posted the crazy unused Yamcha what-if from BT2 and that thing stayed there for almost 2 days
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>>499963502
Pan x My HERO? my favorite ship
>>499963654
Kek
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>still no stone giant boss battle
Vidya games are suffering
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>>499963723
It's almost like you're talking a retard who think everyone who ever used the term /dbs/ reject is his hapa lover from a mobile game general.
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>>499963723
I'll take a look at the archives, oh and if you like obscure What-Ifs, play Dragon Ball Z Budokai 2, that game is unique
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>>499963517
Why are you pretending the other half of my post isn't there?
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>>499963949
The Gamecube version does this weird thing in Dolphin where the image shakes up and down. Somehow there is no fix for it. It's a bit too annoying for me
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I'm glad the REAL Goku is back and not that lobotomized thing from DBS known as Tardku, Daima feels like a proper sequel to DBZ.
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>>499964054
I was only concerned with debunking misinformation in the first half.
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>>499963723
I replied to someone talking about the Japanese dub here >>499932076 at least...
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>>499964251
You should be concerned about taking your meds.
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>>499964096
Why are you playing on Dolphin? It is better than the PS2 version?
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Why isn't Ozotto playable?
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>>499964398
The PS2 version forces me to listen to Sean Shalom and Chris Shabbat, which I don't really have the nerve for.
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>>499964237
They are literally the same. Half of Goku's lines in Daima are about strength or food.
That's how Goku has always and will always be.
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>>499964343
>someone
That would also be me.
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So the GTpedo's spam aside, Daima's good still, yeah?
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>Retcons a 10 years old series with his farts
Based
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They need to make the fairy from plan to eradicate the Saiyan's a Z assist or something.
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>>499964659
>Daima's good still, yeah?
Yup, you can really see it because it made the GT fag seethe so hard, he's now spamming about it making DBS not canon in hope it sticks.
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>>499964416
I wonder how many fans even knew he existed before SDBH brought him back.
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>>499964875
About as many that didn't know that Hatchiyack was a thing before RB2.
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>>499964659
I think it's decent but so far it's not doing anything impressive
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I respect Super but I won't fight GTbro, sorry.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5DtDb2DNCo

SLG would be able to defeat Goku in any combat situation. This is a fact. You cannot debate this.
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>>499964875
I did, but that's because I'm involved in a Fanfic Quest that has everything even vaguely Dragon Ball related in it
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>>499965058
You don't need to, GT fags are defeated by nature.
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>>499965345
>that's because I'm involved in a Fanfic Quest that has everything even vaguely Dragon Ball related in it
Link?
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The thing is...It was already over for DBS as soon as Daima retconned this
>Kibito and Shin use the Namekian Dragon Balls to defuse in both DBS Anime and DBS Manga 4 YEARS LATER, despite Buu being right there in the earth
>Goku is dumbfounded in the U6 arc because of this, asking how did they do that when he already got an explanation for that previously
>Goku asks Gowasu about the reason they defused in the Buu arc, when he should already know by then thanks to the In-Universe explanation Shin gave to him
It doesn't make sense, Super is out of the main continuity, Daima is the new canon.
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>>499965004
I think I vaguely knew of him before RB2, but it's been a long time so I'm not sure... Regardless Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans got an Ova, so you could randomly learn of him. Meanwhile Ozotto was a random final boss of a Japanese exclusive game most DB fans don't even know it exists, so I think he's even less popular than Hatchiyack.

>>499965345
What, so it lists every DB character in it in some way?
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>>499965597
Yes, yes, you're very mad but don't dare to actually try and reply to everyone who lynched you, here's a pity (you) so you can cry yourself to sleep.
GT is still non-canon while Super and Daima are one story btw
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>>499966010
>He gave up already because he can't debunk it
Lol, lmao
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>>499966085
You couldn't even deny the truth anymore. It's really entertaining.
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>>499955074
Pan likes Airplane?
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>>499965597
In the manga Goku never asks how they defused or anything like that, he only asks "why" they are separated again, which works as long they refuse at the end of Daima. Goku also never talks to Gowasu about potara, he's fighting Zamasu while Gowasu reveals the time limit.
Only the anime is contradicted.
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>>499966658
The anime isn't contradicted either.
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>>499966658
>only the main, official continuity of DBS is contradicted
That means trouble for the canonicity of the series, even the promotional toilet paper doesn't line up with Daima, it's over.
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>>499955074
She burns coal
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>>499958773
Pure sex
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>>499954606
Why would Tapion release the thing he specifically sacrificed his body to seal away?
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>>499966731
Cope you disingenous, shit eating speedwatcher, it doesn't make sense.
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>>499967151
Gokus just retarded. Like you
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>>499927539
Rate my DP team
>Roshi
>Videl
>Spopovich
>Recoome
>Kelfa
I've been on a winning streak since using it, I went from C2 all the way to B1 taking a break now.
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>>499967151
>Scat babble out of nowhere
/dbs/ is that way.
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>>499967151
>Oh no, exposition for children in my children's show, I don't understand, it's breaking my mind!
Come on.
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>>499966778
>only the [non-canon cope]
You should have learned your lesson when Daima used manga's lore from the Granolah arc
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>>499967254
Then Kibito and Shin are also retarded because they fused again after Daima for some reason, then Kibitoshin was a thing for 4 more years after Daima (despite both Kibito and Shin saying how much they hate it) and they didn't even ask Buu to split them once more, no, they actually went and gathered the Namekian Dragon Balls, wasting a wish just to do that and Goku forgets about the whole In-Universe explanation he already knew about at that point.
So convoluted and retarded, Daima retconned Super out of canon.
>>499967619
Promotional toilet paper is already retconned too.
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>>499966778
I wanted to ask if you really think being the normie-friendly continuity makes it the main one but then I remembered americans think the DBZ anime is the main continuity too
You also don't know what official mean btw but that's an entirely different matter
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>>499872261
>>499874127
Thank you for these posts. They got me thinking.
You can equip a character with a capsule called "Immortal Body" to keep them from dying and then have it removed right before they swap out, if you want to bring them back in for another round. "Perfect Immortal Body" makes it so they take no damage at all.
With that new knowledge, I've updated with v3. This is the final version. I'm working on a Dabura custom now.
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>>499964875
I knew him, always wanted to try out VRVS in real life.
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>>499967720
Daima doesnt retcon super, super retcon's daima because it happens afterwards
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>>499957167
Barrage death beam is ass now so it just hurts Frieza’s final form a lot
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>>499960196
>I swear some of you niggers are looking for anything you can call a "retcon" and jumping around like caffinated chimps
You don't have to look for them when the show itself puts them front and ceter
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>>499960196
You made the chimp mad.
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>>499967925
Gt retcons super
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>>499967720
Man, the melty after the release of Daima episode 20 will be colossal. Shin and Kibito both will stay unfused and that will be the parting gift from Toriyama, a last fuck you to the continuity.
>>499967925
Daima was made after Super, and unlike DBS, Toriyama got really, and I mean, REALLY FUCKING INVOLVED with the production of the series.
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>>499968081
No it doesn't everything in super sharts and deletes gt out of existence
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>>499967720
>they actually went and gathered the Namekian Dragon Balls, wasting a wish just to do that
funny because that also works only in the manga, they gathered the balls for another reason and just took the chance to get a wish
Toriyama really didn't remember/care at all about the shit toei did in the anime
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>>499939446
Fuck Spike! Justice for my pookie!
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>>499968158
>Apparently, Dragon Ball Daima, which will unfold starting in 2024, was originally supposed to be made as an anime-original series without my input, but as I gave advice here and there, I ended up getting majorly-involved. This time, I’ve created not only the story, but the world, the characters, the mechs, all sorts of things. It will be a smorgasbord of different things, and not just intense action, so I’ll be pleased if you can enjoy watching it.
>Finally, thank you so much to all you fans who have supported me up until now!
>Perhaps because of my lifestyle when I was younger, I have no real confidence in my health, and I don’t know how much more I’ll be able to do. But I’ll do my best aiming to make even more enjoyable work, so please keep supporting me from here on out!
>>499968352
Funny, because that was Toyotaro following what Toei did for the Anime, making both, DBS Anime and Manga, non-canon just because of Daima's existence.
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>>499967271
Kefla is good for the same reason Broli is, and I do like the big guys...

I probably just wouldn't bring Videl on the same team as Spopovich. Seems inhumane.
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What is the best Vegeta with instant spark? I feel like you're at such a disadvantage without it in singles.
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>>499968158
Yup, it will be colossal with setting up the next DBS movie like we already knew it will and not in a seething ironic way like your delusion.
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>>499968665
DB movie you mean, DBS is dead
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>>499968552
>Perhaps because of my lifestyle when I was younger, I have no real confidence in my health, and I don’t know how much more I’ll be able to do. But I’ll do my best aiming to make even more enjoyable work, so please keep supporting me from here on out!
:(
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>>499965618
That and then some, it's got a lot of Toriyama's works even vaguely related to Dragon Ball in some way or another all meshed into one big somehow mostly coherent setting. Player characters are Tuffles made by Dr. Raichi, Chiaotzu is the runaway Emperor of Mifan (Pilaf ending up emperor of that nation after he reforms), the bit about Bulma's family giving Omori a Z'Gok model in the Jaco manga is expanded to Gundam being an anime series in Dragon Ball (with some characters developing Ki skills inspired by it), Roshi taught Gamera and Godzilla the Kamehameha, the filler character Chuu Lee gets trained up to become a Z-fighter and gets strong enough to beat Vegeta 1v1 in a world tournament finale, Ozotto and Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans take the place of the Cell arc (even this fairy chick >>499964726 shows up in it as a semi-important character), Sachie and Zarid take part in the Buu arc tournament (which gets combined with the Bojack tournament stuff and features Majin Bojack and crew), police lady Akai Tomato ends up pals and coworkers with Launch, the vague GT backstory of the Shadow Dragon of Planet Eros is expanded into a full plot thread involving a different set of Black Star Dragon Balls, the ancient ruins of Nemuria are given a whole backstory tying them to other ancient Earth civilizations and the Makyans like Garlic Jr. and his kind, Hearts helps a displaced Chiaotzu unlock Time Stop powers, Towa's a fucking bitch who won't leave us alone, and so much more.

>>499965546
Look for Tuffle Quest over on the suptg archives.
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>>499968731
Confirmed leak say otherwise, sorry your delusions aren't real.
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>>499968552
>Perhaps because of my lifestyle when I was younger, I have no real confidence in my health, and I don’t know how much more I’ll be able to do
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>>499968845
Geekdom may know about the whole Daima plot, it doesn't mean that the next movie will be a DBS Movie, it'll be a Daima Movie.
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>>499968552
>that was Toyotaro following what Toei did for the Anime
Anon... Kibitoshin defused in the manga in the BoG arc (chapter 4) by using the namekian dragon balls they gathered because they feared Champa was after them, none of this happens in the anime, Champa doesn't appear until the Golden Freeza arc and Kibito and Shin are only seen separated in the U6 tournament arc two arcs after BoG
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>>499968979
>It'll be called Daima so it won't matter that it happens post-Super Hero
Cope.
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>>499968552
>It is non-canon simply because another show in the same continuity exist and set up more stuff for it
How is that supposed to make sense in your seething brain?
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>>499968823
Jesus that's a lot
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>>499968845
>>499968979
>>499968845
>Confirmed leak
But so far Geekdom has been proven wrong in every episode, the only stuff he got right was the stuff shown on the very first trailer
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>>499969439
Why are you coping so hard
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>>499969082
True my bad, the manga chapter released in September 19, 2015 and Episode 32 released in February 21, 2016
>>499969439
True
>>499969276
I know you're desperately coping at this point, but Daima directly contradicts both DBS Anime and Manga, Daima is effectively the new canon, DBS is out.
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>>499969439
I haven't been following all his leaks but
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/493699906/#493887637
Look at the date of the post. The faggot got real info
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>>499969439
We had leaks outside of Geekdom and so far they got the show's name right, Pansy and Glorio right, Goku using the Nyoibo right, the gas right and even the fact it would air on Fuji TV right.
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>>499945469
Rent-free.
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>>499969082
>instead of that Shin and Kibito are just randomly defused after an off screen event unrelated to everything in the Champa arc in the anime
we got fucking robbed
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>>499969707
>I know I just got blown the fuck out but I'll just repeat myself
Pathetic.
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>>499969750
Any more rumors?
>future SUPER content
Kek, doubt it, won't make sense, next movie will be a DAIMA movie, not a DBS one.
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>>499968823
>Hearts helps a displaced Chiaotzu unlock Time Stop powers
Wait what the fuck? All of this sounded like a mid 2000's thing, but Hearts came around in like 2018. Is it still going?
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>Join online tournament
>Rules say no items
>Join
>Make fun theme team
>Enter first round
>Enemy is Dr. Wheelo, Beerus, MUI Goku, Gogeta and Vegito
>They also have items somehow, all at 5+ HP Bars, doing way more damage than me
>Get stomped
Wow, I love this game.
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>>499954606
You don't know it because you clearly haven't watched the movie, but Hirudegarn is a crazy strong monster that was sealed inside of Tapion's body so it wouldn't go on a rampage destroying things and stuff, and it puts a lot of strain on Tapion's because he's JUST barely strong to contain Hiru.
He can't control Hiru and he can't use it as a minion or anything like that.

Did Heroes do anything with Tapion? Something like a powered up Tapion that could actually control Hiru or something?
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Time for some saturday night kino!
>>>/v/692960875
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>>499970014
>I doubt it
And that matters because?
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So are core people retconned?
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>>499968823
>Towa's a fucking bitch who won't leave us alone,
Sounds like Towa kek
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>>499970270
>>499954606
>puts a lot of strain on Tapion's body because
Ftfm.
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>>499970387
Yes, and DBS too
>>499970349
When are you going to stop with the seethe?
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It's been 3 weeks now and Daima STILL hasn't gotten interesting. The first fight was a slogfest, and any serious fight will just end up looking retarded with the bobbleheads.

It being "better" than Super isn't going to be enough to shield it from criticism anymore.
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>>499970387
They technically were never in any show to begin with.
>>499970270
>Did Heroes do anything with Tapion? Something like a powered up Tapion that could actually control Hiru or something?
No, he's just talking about the bullshit Tapion can do in DBM. It's retarded.
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>>499970470
I'll never stop making you seethe since you'll forever replay this humiliation in your head.
>>499970580
We get it, you never like anything. Get new material.
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>>499969941
And that's not all, when Champa is blowing up shit looking for the Super Dragon Balls he destroys a Freeza army ship, which is the last straw that makes Sorbet decide to stop looking for New Namek and go to Earth and use its balls, triggering the events of RoF. The manga BoG arc is super rushed really, but it connects nicely with RoF and Champa arc
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>>499970771
>I'll never stop being a mindbroken manchildren seething at the mere sight of you
Kek
>>499970809
Hopefully soon, there are a crapton of character strings of GT characters in the game and Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta has a unique transformation sequence already in the game.
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>>499970771
We get it, you like eating shit. But it being new content doesn't automatically make it good.
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>>499971025
At least you're honest now. Enjoy your mindbreak.
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>>499935840
This is the best one I've seen so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45wWoaPh3M
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>>499971132
>N-No you!
Pathetic, running in circles over and over again, get new material.
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>>499971089
>Scat out of nowhere
You should go back to /dbs/. I'm sure your endless baseless bitching will be appreciated in your native containment thread.
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>>499968660
i think scouter vegeta is the best to be honest. I do kind of like the gimmicks with ssj dbs and ssj red dbs vegeta where... he does the multi-blast shitty supper, but if just one hits, it triggers a cutscene and does a little extra damage. At least it's unique.
ssj red's super is pretty quick i guess, too
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>>499970609
>>Did Heroes do anything with Tapion? Something like a powered up Tapion that could actually control Hiru or something?
>No
Hold on, are you telling me that THE licensed fanfic with a lot of crazy What Ifs which lasted like 14 years really didn't do anything with Tapion and Hiru at all?
Dude, that's like, incredibly disappointing.
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>>499971228
You're so mad that even your other gimmick instantly got you bullied instead of turning people against Daima or Super.
That's what happens when you try to 'totally troll' a thread out of seething anger while being retarded.
>>499971418
Yup, it never did anything with either.
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>>499971484
What other gimmick? You're extremely retarded and mentally ill, I actually love Daima and the fact that it'll retcon Super out of the main canon will be funny as fuck
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>>499971418
>>499971484
Did Hiru even got a 'dark dragon ball' form? I don't remember seeing any.
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>>499928019
Retconfags are bitter Zcacas who don't watch the show anymore but still tune into whatever Taco, Toei, Scamco, and Iyokek is producing anyways to generate addictive seethe.
The opposite of GTamales who just wanr to see monke in major material again.
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blue vegeta with another shitty blockable suicide super... instead of niagara pummel for some reason
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>>499971634
>It's a coincidence I got mad at and repeated what was said to me when I whined about Daima being bad
You're so mad.
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>>499970270
At best it could be used as a super attack where Tapion tries to hold him back, but can't, and that causes Hildegarn to go around destroying shit, but problem is trying to justify how Hildegarn leaves.

Maybe DBH has a card of Tapion where he transforms into a giant, since giants are basically a different character replacing the "normal" one, so that could work too.

Aside from that, it's hard to implement Hildegarn in Tapion while also keeping Tapion around once Hildegarn does its thing, either he essentially replaces Tapion or Hildegarn shouldn't show up at all.
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>>499971872
I never said that Daima was bad, there are several anons making fun of you.
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>>499930128
Can't wait for Dragon Ball Tenka
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>>499970270
>>499971945
The thing is that Hildegarn isn't like Kurama from Naruto or Ichigo's hollow in Bleach, he's not something Tapion can draw power from, if anything, it draws power FROM Tapion to keep it contained.
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>>499972002
>It's a coincidence, I swear!
Cope.
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>>499972346
No coincidence, that was a different anon ridiculing you, you're a fucking clown.
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So all the Kais are a race called Glind and they're a sophisticated race located in demon realm 2, right? And they either become Kais and start governing the 12 universes or they remain demons and stay in realm 1 and 2.

And I guess that thing about them growing on trees is ignorable now.
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>>499969379
It's barely a fraction of it. A lot of obscure Dragon Ball manga, movie, game, and other stuff is in there, be it Lucifer from Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle, Lord Konpei from the Daimao Fukkatsu game, Cyborg Octopapa from Online, Percel from Xenoverse, Haru Haru and Shun Shun from Heroes, literally all of Path to Power, or even Galactic Patrolman Jiya.

>>499970046
It started in 2015 and has been ongoing since then.

>>499970410
Towa's effectively the "main" recurring antagonist. First met her in the Demon Realm when saving Princess Misa from Demon King Shura (said Princess actually ended up with Sandland's Beelzebub ironically).
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>>499972683
Yes, Super is not-canon now
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>>499972540
>I-i-it wasn't me!
Cool story, seething retard.
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>>499972683
>And I guess that thing about them growing on trees is ignorable now.
probably, but it can still be true
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>>499972918
Keep coping, malding bitch.
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>>499972683
Seems like it but I guess we'll know more later.
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>>499973010
Take a deep breathe, there's no need to get so mad over you getting humiliated on 4chan.
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>>499972683
That just shits all over Zamasu. His whole thing was about gods ruling the multiverse and he isn't even a real god, nor is he from the multiverse.
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>>499973219
>Still at it, repeating the same bullshit over and over again for 8 hours now
Mindbroken little pup.
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>>499971418
>Dude, that's like, incredibly disappointing.
DBH is a licensed fanfic, but it's mostly related to saiyans and OCs, the other characters generally get scraps if they get anything at all (Like Wheelo getting a new, smaller body, or kid Buu absorbing Dabura).

>>499971643
As far as I remember the villains who got a dark dragon ball are
>Freeza
>Cell
>Kid Buu
>Turles
>Janemba
>Slug
>Broly

And then during Fu's arc, Crimson Masked Saiyan threw one at Golden Metal Cooler too.

I barely saw Hildegarn around. Only remember him showing up like twice in World Mission, and getting beaten up during Tournament of Time in anime and manga (Tapion did show up and sparred with Xeno Trunks during the latter at least).

>>499972180
Yeah, that's why implementing him in Tapion's moveset is difficult.

Sparking Zero could, say, make him into Tapion's transformation, but it'd have to make him into one of those where you can't turn back, and even doing that is a stretch, since Tapion doesn't physically transform into Hildegarn either.

>>499972696
>It started in 2015 and has been ongoing since then.
I'm surprised, it really sounded like something from mid 2000's... Sounds fun.
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>>499973320
>I've been getting bullied for 8 hours straight!
That's a weird thing to boast about.
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>>499973412
The other way around actually, you've been effectively mindbroken by me for 8 hours straight, try going for 12 hours buddy!
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>>499972696
Man the guy running that shit has some obscure pulls
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>>499973339
If he didn't even get a dark dragon ball, they really did NOTHING with him.
>Yeah, that's why implementing him in Tapion's moveset is difficult.
I know, I was just agreeing and explaining why.
At the end of the day, it's purely an idea from a fanmanga and one that doesn't work to begin with.
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>>499973503
>O-o-o-other way around!
Is that all you can come up with after getting bullied for 8 hours?
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how do you actually win blast clash? i keep seeing people say to tap it and some say to hold it
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>>499972683
Yes. He also has a brother and a sister that he never brought up and he's also from the Demon Realm despite never mentioning it before.
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>>499973732
Getting bullied? When? You've been at it for 8 hours straight seething and malding at everyone that mentions retcons, you lost.
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>>499973339
It is pretty fun, one guy aside.

>>499973526
Chick, actually, but yes
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>>499973775
You ironically hold it until it's almost to max and then tap to keep it as close to max as possible. It's a weird system.
>>499973831
>I got amnesia from when I admitted I got bullied for 8 years 10 minutes ago!
Cope.
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>these 2 guys still arguing
only 32 episodes left to go
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>>499972696
>started in 2015 and has been ongoing since then.
Holy shit, that's almost 10 years
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>>499973929
8 years? Wow! I'm sure messing up with your feeble brain because you got lost in time.
>>499974007
32? I thought that it was a 20 episode series
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I think I'm about done with Sparking Zero. The reward for trying to use regular characters or non cheese is little to none. I'm just hard stuck in the A's in singles now because I'm trying to use regular characters and I'm not good enough to play perfectly all the time to overcome these instant spark fusions, full power Jirens or Beerus' as one knock away means I'm probably just dead. How do you guys tolerate online? Honestly, I'd lime to hear. I haven't dabbled in DP too much outside of lobbies but they're just long slogs a lot of the time. Does Custom's give sufficient fun single player content?
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>>499973887
Wait seriously?
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Come watch the stream with our hermanos!
https://www.twitch.tv/doogla815
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>>499974067
>Me getting bullied is messing with you!
You're flailing so hard and it keep failing. Not surprising after 80 years of getting bullied.
>I thought
Why are you lying? You've never had a thought in your life, which is why you're here getting bullied over saying dumb shit.
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>>499974243
I'm not reading that, I'll give you another (You) because you desperately need them to stay alive.
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>>499974208
>Dub
I refuse.
>>499974363
>I-i-i can't pretend I didn't admit I got bullied for 8 hours straight so I'll just seethe in silence now
Wise choice, retard. Know your place.
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>>499974208
Broly? More like Dummy. YamCHAD is pulverizing him.
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>>499974457
Good thing, we don't need your filthy kind there
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Boss, no!
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/6573230
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>playing online
>knock opponent away
>hold R2 and press square or circle to follow up
>character starts punching air or standing there doing perception repeatedly

The fuck is wrong with this game?
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>>499974541
>N-n-no u
What happened to not reading, bullied bitch? 9 hours now BTW.
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>>499974542
It's okay they got Kai Married
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>>499974857
Keep crying and counting the hours since I BTFO you.
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>>499974985
>S-s-stop mentioning how many hours I got bullied!!!
Should have thought of that before telling me that you've been getting bullied by the entire general for hours.
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>>499974060
Yep

>>499974205
Yes
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>>499975127
>Just one mindbroken guy that has been seething for hours now
>Entire general
Kek, peak delusion.
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>>499974208
Videl Broken and Abused by big strong man as usual (Bojack this time)
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>>499975263
>>Just one mindbroken guy that has been seething for hours now
That's you, yes.
>>Entire general
And that's who's been bullying you for 8 hours according to your post.
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>>499975379
You've been doing the exact same thing, using your logic we're the same.
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>>499975440
Try again but in english.
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>>499975582
You've been seething for hours like an obsessed bitch
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>>499974582
It was rushed out to coincide with the release of Daima.
It runs on the Unreal Engine.
It's probably using old spaghetti code from the PS2 era games.
The developers are probably sick of making DB games and don't care if shit even works anymore.
Take your pick.
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21 a cute
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>>499975704
I've only showed up when you did your 'daima suck!' cope gimmick to get back at the thread but if that let sleep at night.
At least you admit you got bullied nonstop for 8 hours.
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Okay I think I would rather hear more about anon's fanfic rp than this ongoing Daima melty or whatever
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>>499975935
Yeah I don't buy that, you've been at it for hours now.
>Daima sucks
Never said that, I'm actually grateful that it retconned Super out of existence, must've been some other anon living rent free in your head.
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>>499976035
>Running away in shame
You're the only retard here who says 'melty', be less obvious next time.
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>>499976136
Nobody cares what you're pretending to not believe out of cope.
>You've been bullying me for 8 hours
Still a weird thing to brag about.
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>>499976035
It's one guy samefagging through phoneposting
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>>499976136
How does it feel to know that what you're pretending happened to Super actually happened to GT? And that in attempting to turn Daima and Super against each other (a retarded idea since it's one story), you just united the thread in making fun of you?
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>>499976310
>Nobody cares!
Nobody other than you, you've been at it for 9 hours now.
>>499976475
>Samefagging
Yawn
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>>499973575
>If he didn't even get a dark dragon ball, they really did NOTHING with him.
Yeah, and now that I think of it more, it makes little sense they didn't use him to, say, have Xeno Trunks fight him alongside Tapion for movie nostalgia during the Dark Dragon Balls hunt, and him being in Slug's place would work too since Slug isn't that popular (Though, Hildegarn is probably even less popular. He'd only work as nostalgia bait for Tapion, and I don't think he's that popular either). At least in the manga Xeno Trunks kills him... In one attack. And that may have been something the manga came up with, because I think in the anime Jiren was the one who defeated him, and if that's the case then maybe the game did something else too (Like having him be just a random opponent with no real story context).

>At the end of the day, it's purely an idea from a fanmanga and one that doesn't work to begin with.
Yeah, DBM only has Raichi making a new music box, but completely glosses over how Hildegarn is not causing Tapion pain anymore.

>>499973887
>one guy aside
If there wasn't someone being a jackass it'd be more surprising.
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>>499976537
>You totally care about me! You've been my bully for 9 hours now!
Nobody cares about you tho, you've just been passed from anons to anons as a punching bag.
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>>499976687
>Homosexual fantasies out of nowhere
Done.
>Nobody cares
>Still at it 9 hours after
You're mindbroken.
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>>499976760
>Done, stop bullying me!
No.
>Bullying me means you care about me!
Still no.
9 hours of being every anon in this thread's bitch is all you got out of your shitty gimmicks.
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>>499976954
>Doubles down on his homosexual fantasies
Yuck, disgusting, as expected of some obsessed sperg.
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>>499977081
>Stop it!
Bullied bitches don't get a say, especially not after 9 hours.
You should be happy, it's the only way you get attention and you think it means your bullies care.
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>>499967906
That's some good shit.
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>>499967906
Good luck. You make some good stuff.
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>>499974073
you stay stuck in as though there's any fun to be had in the high ranks in the fiest place. I stay down in D for a reason
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>>499974073
You talk like ranked is the only way to play.
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im alt f4ing if you play more than 2 giants
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>>499978434
What's your player ID so I know to always pick all giants for an easy win against you?
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>>499978545
Kevin Pee
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I'll win against anyone ITT
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>>499978434
Android hands typed this post.
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the Boss's forbidden aerobics broadcast
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in XV3, Fuu should run his own pirate radio station like the dude in Jetset Radio
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>>499978714
I beat you once
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>>499979234
When?
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>>499979294
Like a little while ago
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>>499978714
you won't win against me
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>>499979386
I don't remember losing in the past couple of days, but if that was the case, congratulations! :D
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>>499979465
Damn apparently it was already 12 days ago. You beat me like ten times in a row afterwards after adapting to my playstyle but I did win the first match, nevertheless you are certainly the superior martial artist.
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>>499979453
Post lobby and I'll throw some hands with you
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>>499970270
You could make Tapions actions look involuntary or inadvertently when you execute the ability and have the ocarina used at the end of the ability to retract the limb.
You're such an unimaginative little goof who assumes people haven't watched shit.
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>>499978771
nah i don't play androids im alting f4 if you play androids too
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>>499970609
No you tard, you can animate Tapion to make the Hirudegarn limb attacks look involuntary then retract with an ocarina play animation. You smol brained NPC.
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>>499979627
I don't know why I am like that, I always lose the first couple of matches, I need to "heat up" and get the flow of the battle before putting up a fight, I always play like a slug when I cool down.
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>>499979986
Recently I've been considering if it might be the opposite for me, that I might play better when I'm calm and not stressed out by prolonged gameplay yet, but I'm not sure. Unfortunately because I am a Gohan main I am slacking on my training.
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can you vanish wild sense?
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>start match
>exchange side-steps, blocks, and raw punches for a long while
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>>499980208
Yes, it is really good for you if you stay calm while playing this game, better vanishing and perception timings and letting go of the right stick to do a Super Counter when the time is right is a must.
>>499980421
Managed to do it once, MUI Goku was a wild sense too but it comes out much faster than the regular one.
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>>499979665
You won't win because i'm poor :(
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>>499980925
Anon, I...Hopefully you'll have the chance to play with us one day
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>>499979938
That's a stupid idea.
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>>499980520
That's such a cool exchange.
>>499976596
You'd think it being dragon ball and having such a long name, the attack would be more impressive.
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>>499981023
I'm saving up some money for Christmas, should be clear by then
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>>499981972
Great! I'll be waiting for it
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>>499981283
I find it extra funny the attack has a name at all, it's just regular slashing.

It's specially weird with Trunks. He has no named attacks in the original manga, and while games do give him a few, cases like this are just weird for him.
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>>499982729
It's not even particularly flashy slashing either.
Also it just looks weird how he attack from the back but the slash are clearly starting from the front.
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>>499979230
>
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Fucking MODDING NIGGERS making beam clashes literally unbeatable
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FUCK master roshi that CUNT i HATE HIM
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DIS NIGGA LOOKIN ZESTY DIS NIGGA LOOKIN MOIST!
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>can't beat your master
train more
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>>499983436
what?
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>>499987725
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonballsparkingzero/mods/trending/
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>>499962470
>Still no Bardock premonition counter mechanic.
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>>499988075
Because it never functioned as one. Quite the opposite in fact.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m1v1nk4klU
https://zebrack-comic.shueisha.co.jp/magazine/228/issue/18851/detail
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>>499962470
He looks like absolute dogshit though
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>>499962470
It's funny because the one the left look bad, the middle one look better and the one on the right looks best.
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>>499962470
if you look at these right-to-left like a manga Bardock gets progressively faggier. son on the far left looks like he's ready for the Saiyan Pride parade. lmao
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>>499962470
Left and middle are real Nakatsuru kino, the one on the right is the faggiest, lamest shit I've ever seen, fitting for something as trash as DBS I guess...
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>>499962470
Super Bardock mog the other two so hard, it's crazy to see.
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>>499962649
Dragon Ball is probably the worst franchise i can think of when it comes to eating your own tail. they could tell stories about literally anything, but for some pathetic reason they're always falling back to DBZ for ideas or supporting characters. i think the U6 Saiyans and Android 17 have about the same amount of screen time despite one being a refreshing new DBS concept and the other being member berry nonsense. it demonstrates a major lack of confidence and talent from their creative team.
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>Base Gogeta
>Base Teen Gohan
>Tapion
>Third world ping
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>>499989961
We're exploring an entire new realm that we've never seen before right now, why are you bitching?
Make sense to finish exploring stuff that was introduced or hinted at before going at the multiverse.
Also honestly, outside some Vegeta wank when Vegeta goes to Sadala, I don't see much potential for U6 saiyans. I'd rather have Hit stuff.
Goku really need something new to stand out because with Vegeta who always get the same shit he does and Gohan who's basically a saiyan with extra perk, the saiyan shit has gotten old to me.
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>>499989961
Fuckin Duncan MacLeod wannabe ass Trunks
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>>499991545
Duncan was cooler because he used a Katana.
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>>499991493
>the saiyan shit has gotten old to me.
People talk about Isekai protags being copy pasted with the same look and black hair but when you put them next to the Saiyan Squad, it's really not THAT different.
It's part of why I'm enjoying the Daima crew so much and wish Vegeta and co would just stay on Earth.
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>>499991493
>We're exploring an entire new realm that we've never seen before right now, why are you bitching?
1. It must not be a very signficant realm if it hasn't come up again in Super.
2. The Demon Realm is only new to Superfags, DBH has been telling Demon Realm stories for a decade.
Get off Toriyama's dick.
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>>499991636
hah what a weeb
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>>499991970
>1. It must not be a very signficant realm if it hasn't come up again in Super.
It's significant to U7, not to the whole multiverse.
>DBH has been telling Demon Realm stories for a decade.
It hasn't, DBH has had Demon try and fail to unseal the demon realm for decades, literally nothing has actually happened in it nor was it even shown.
Stop whining.
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>>499991970
U6 Saiyans weren't very significant either if we follow that logic since 17 got more screentime than them.
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Is it me or Toriyama really like rocky areas? From Blue Dragons to DB to Sandland to now Daima, it seems there's a big focus to rocky areas, you rarely see Toriyama really use stuff like lush forests or watery places. It's mostly mountain, volcanos and deserts.
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>>499992404
that was both the entire point and the problem, good on you for your reading comprehension. lol

>>499992259
stories about Dabura, Towa, and Mechikabura are Demon Realm stories to me, i didn't need a big sign in the background labeling the area they spent time in as the Demon Realm for it to count. thanks though, semantics man.
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>>499992642
>Stuff that doesn't explore the demon realm count as exploring the demon realm to me
What? How does that make sense or make what happens in Daima less new?
Hell, the franchise hasn't even explored a new planet since Namek and even then, the characters mostly flew over it.
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>>499962649
>>499989961
>>499991493
>>499991848
>>499991970
>>499992259
>Toriyama is a hack with dementia and autism
>Oda is a hack with dementia and autism
>99% of mangakas are hacks with dementia and autism (the remaining 1% are hacks with extreme mental illness like gege)
Don't expect good and consistent writing, just consume the product and be excited for more products.
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>>499992817
it doesn't make it less new (although technically the last arcs of SDBH take place after this in the timeline, so it's not the newest demon realm event in totality) it just makes it a low stakes story set in a place i've seen cooler shit happen in already. not to mention its set before Super, so it's gonna be the Super Saiyan 2 & 3 show, and if that was all i wanted i'd rather rewatch the Buu Saga or the old movies, from back when the art style peaked and characters still bled.
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>>499993706
>Muh forms
You're retarded.
>>499993612
>Don't expect it
How come I'm getting it from DB anyway?
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>>499994124
It's because you're not a bitter retard who made hating things his entire personality.
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>>499994124
>How come I'm getting it
Buckbroken and mindbroken consoomerzoomer. Sad! Many such cases.
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>>499994389
Can you talk like a normal person? Are you lost?
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Why is Vegeta's SSJ4 design so much better than Goku's?
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>>499970156
O think item reflection just causes certain items to work on your opponent like Broly’s ring, it’s not actually a toggle for them being on or not
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>>499995043
He's got them apple bottom jeans, the boots, and the fur.
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>>499971418
Hirudegarn got taken over by Baby in Fusions but that’s all I can really think of that they’ve done with him
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>>499970410
>>499968823
In my head it's my OC donut who don't want to leave Towa alone.
>>499951394
I've been here since XV1 as well.
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>>499995043
His hair actually looks like Vegeta's. No one one would realize at a first glance that SSJ4 Goku is Goku is they weren't told beforehand.
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>>499996438
You wouldn't realize that SSJ Goku from Namek is Goku at first glance, same shit with 3
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why doesn't teen goku have his great ape form?
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>>499997271
You would because they have Goku's clothes, SSJ4 does a full redesign of both his hair and his body, and GT Goku's pants aren't iconic enough to recognize, specially in adult size.
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>>499997573
Cut for time.
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>>499997573
They ran out of time
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>>499997626
He's was the only Saiyan with a tail at the time, I would recognize him instantly
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>>499997573
It's in the game's files, they just didn't finish it in time. It did appear in a cutscene, for Kid Gohan at least.
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>>499998467
Garlind people are so progressive...I'm glad they retconned the inferior series out of existence.
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>>499989961
This, it took Toriyama coming back to get completely new shit like Beerus and Whis, god forms, Golden Frieza, Zeno, all the alt universes, gammas, and now the daima. So he gave Toei a lot more stuff to use, but that's all they'll do without creating anything new.
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feeling mexican again bros, what about you? feel like its 2006 all over again
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>>499998840
It's so funny too because Toriyama clearly laid out that it barely matters what the new shit is if there's an interesting ride to it.
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>>499998467
it's not fair... it should be me!
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>>499998858
I could go for a good pound of carne guisada for sure.
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>>499998535
>>499952127
IT'S TIME FOR A GARLAND OF GARLIC!
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>>499999684
Where's chaos?
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>>499999478
prefer carnitas but thats also cool with me
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>>499998858
I wish I had some black beans to go with my rice
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>>499999743
Did you come here to kill Chaos too?
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>>500000547
Yes, do you have any clue about his whereabouts?
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Chaos? More like a BITCH.
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>>499999820
thats more of a peruan shit but ok
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>>500000000
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>>500000589
>Futashit
Begone.
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>>500001453
it wasn't Futa though
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>>500001109
Believe it or not destruction incarnate isn't chaos.
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>>500000589
Does every male saiyan have sex with Towa?
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>>500001559
You're obsessed with girlcock
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>>500001626
What, you thought Saiyans went extinct because their planet blew up?
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>>500001654
but the drawing itself wasn't. Not all of my pieces is futa content.
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>>500001570
he was born from the primordial chaos so that's the closest we can get
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>>500001849
Based, still gay as fuck tho, but keep up with the good work
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>>500001904
We all were. Chaos is the natural state of life.
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>>500002121
Cringy cope from r/atheism
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>>500002251
Seethe.
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>>500003959
Kill yourself
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>>500004078
no u
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>>500004691
ok
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Even saiyan women have sex with towa!
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I know we're having a tism fit, but can I just say the dialogue in Sparking Zero is seriously lacking? Even basic bitch ideas like Adult Gohan vs Cell don't have specific quotes
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>>500005917
And Towa fucking them with her demon cock
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>>499930128
Zamasu gets a DNA test and learns that he’s 100% ningen.
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>Sunday
Tournament today lads?
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Is anyone still playing Xenoverse 2? Obviously SZ is out, but I'm surprised I can't find any co-op partners at all.
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>>500006151
Your timeline's towa has a cock??
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>>500002251
How does reaching one of the basic levels of enlightenment make me an atheist, you fucking retard? Only a fool doesn't believe in a higher power.
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>>500006792
I just hop on xv2 to do raids
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The highest power you should put your faith in is our HERO, Son Goku!
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>>500005964
It would be a lot easier if you could write your own shit but they clearly don't want to waste their time on all those filters.
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>>500007398
Never
He's not worthy of such a thing
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>>500007398
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>>500007398
I AGREE!
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>>500007673
>>500007783
I will reject this false god with every fiber of my being, he's not worthy of my praise, my adoration, my worship, not even my respect

GOKU


A SHIIIIIITTTTT!!!
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>>500006792
This sicko sided with Dodoria over Zarbon...
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>>500008304
And Id do it again!
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I'm still surprised Jaco didn't make it to Sparking Zero's base roster. Felt like an obvious pick.
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>>500008431
We got King Cold, a guy who did nothing but get one-shotted, and Babidi, a guy who got one-shotted twice, over Jaco. Let that sink in.
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>>500009187
Jaco gets zero-shotted because he's such a little bitch he doesn't even participate in fights, barely a spectator.
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>>500009402
Fought in RoF and was the only fighter who didn’t need a Senzu.
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Destructo Disc is unblockable but Special Beam Cannon isn't? Bullshit.
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>>500009187
They probably wanted to get as many Meteor/BT3 veterans in as possible before the deadline. The characters in red were perhaps low priority or slated for DLC.
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>SSJ Bardock will only end up as a DLC character among other characters and content I couldn't give a rats ass about
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>>500009402
Cope.
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In Custom Battles, how do I add effects to fusion characters that don't start fused?
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>>500009690
It's pretty crazy how SSJ Bardock became such a regular within DB vidya for a bit
It feels like it's become a staple to his vidya kit, so it's somewhat odd to see him without it in Sparking Zero
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>>500010301
It is? The only ones I can think of are Xenoverse which gives him all the way to SSJ3 and FighterZ which only has him transform for him ultimate. World Mission too I guess but that's Herpes so I wouldn't count it, everyone gets everything there
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>>500006823
yeah and it's enormous...
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>>500011798
He was also in Battle Of Z and that shitty kinect game for some reason
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>>500011798
Started with Battle of Z I believe, and then Xenoverse, and then FighterZ
I wanna say Fusions too but I could be mistaken
That's a lot of years with Bardock and SSJ just being a regular thing
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>>500010301
It's 90% purely because bardock was already a cool as fuck character, so SSJ bardock is an easy win to put in as a character
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>>500012352
What shitty kinect game?
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insane to me that legends doesn't count GT pan as a kid
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I hate pan so goddamn much
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>>500012890
They changed her age for the dub of GT. Originally she's 10, but in the English dub she's 14.
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>>500013307
i don't think japanese company dimps cares about what mistakes an english dub makes
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>>500013369
I'm just saying that could be why she's not considered a kid in Legends.
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>>500013283
Stay mad.
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>>500012687
DBZ Kinect, iirc it had the OVA for SS Bardock?
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>>500013631
There was still exposed ass cheeks, you should have cropped it better.
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>>500013631
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>>500010191
if you wanna be lazy you can just tack everything onto the same flag that forces them to fuse
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>>500014106
At least 9 of those views are from Gohan
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So why is there no option to set premade teams? This games serious needs quality of life fixes badly.
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>>500000589
>>500013631
Hmm.....
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>>500014584
You're several days late!
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>>500014584
I can't believe they didn't rip off Cooler's design for Frieza's new form in Super. We just get two shitty recolors.
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>>500014724
People like you deserve what Multiverse became.
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>>500014804
That's mean...
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>>500014804
>He likes recolors
lol
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>>500014930
what the fuck were they thinking with that special
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>>500014930
>>500015020
What the hell
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canon SS4 Cell soon
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>>500015057
He was drawn by a woman who wants to bone him in this
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>Multiverse
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>>500014804
>>500015020
>>500015157
>Multiverse
What the fuck is this shit?
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>>500015157
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going
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>>500015125
according to their profile they are actually australian
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>>500015176
French Dragon Ball comic that was mildly popular back in the day for being new, non-GT Dragon Ball content made by a fanfic writer and mildly competent artist. Big tournament against multiple timelines, ended up falling victim of too many DBZ fanfic tropes and too many garbage filler chapters.
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And listen I'm just saying. If I was 14 and watching Daima I'd be fucking obsessed with Glorio right now.

The edginess the firearms the blue skin the punky haircut the multiple shots of his ridiculous giant sparkling eyes complete with eyeliner. This is exactly the kind of character that would have changed my fuckin brain chemistry once upon a time and I hope some weird little girl is out there having that experience right now in my place
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>>500015382
I still can't believe after a over decade of waiting to see whatever the fuck this nigga's deal was, it turns out he... can summon Janemba.
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>>500015157
>>500015545
At least the art looks good.
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I bet the reason there's no Gohan (mini) in Daima is because they kept trying and failing to make Kid Gohan look not terrible with his adult haircut
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>>500015231
yes, she rapes King Cold (Ginyu)
because she's the ur-Mary Sue
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>>500015606
It switched artists like midway through and has constant guest comic artists putting up filler chapters of wildly varying quality
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>>500015768
is this shit STILL not done????
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>>500015818
it's never gonna be done
they know as soon as it ends, nobody will ever give a fuck about any of their future products even an ants fart's worth compared to multiverse. plus it was never made with an ending in mind. just a series of hypothetical characters and some fight scenes between them.
rather than invent an ending they're just going to drag it out until either the money or their own fucks to give run out, and then they'll probably nuke the whole domain and pretend it never existed
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>>500015818
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>>500015752
Raditz is an incel he's afraid of women.
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>>500015818
they are only JUST NOW in the last semifinal match
they spent a whole entire fucking chapter on actual filler over Elder Kai finally being done unlocking Raditz's potential and that going to shit and that turning out to ALL BE A HYPOTHETICAL
A SCENARIO HE WAS THINKING UP IN HIS HEAD
ALL A GODDAMN DREAM
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>>500016160
he's clearly scared in that pic
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>>500016186
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>>500015818
Nope. Started in fucking 2009 and it's still not even at the finals. Still not even at Vegito's nigger moment.
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>>500016186
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? HOLY SHIT WOW
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>>500016334
>Still not even at Vegito's nigger moment.
What the fuck do you mean? He had like 12 of those already.
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>>500016572
No no, the big one where he finally snaps.
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>>500016186
How in the fuck...
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>>500016186
you know what? i'm not even mad
just disappointed, maybe experiencing secondhand embarrassment
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>>500016186
Why did they do my boy Raditz like this?
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>>500016819
My condolences anon i have no idea how you enjoyed that series for years...
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>>500016572
I genuinely find it hard to express the amount of contempt I have for DBM Vegito, the amount of Flanderization that people complain about Super Goku and Vegeta getting are fucking nothing to the derailed nonsense that happened to DBM Vegito
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DBM was shit ever since they had Pan SSJ lose to Bojack. All these faggots online crying about "boo-hoo Pan didn't go SSJ in GT why ;((" only to do that in their fanfic, and have her lose to some ancient literalwho villain from ages ago.

meanwhile in real series, Base Pan would be enough to send Bojack flying.
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>>500010301
I was sure SS Bardock was gonna be the pre order bonus character
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>>500017161
Dare I ask how bad it is?
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>>500015020
Is this OneyNG?
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>>500017580
gotta drop yajirobe down a tier or two
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>>500017580
>Base Z Broly in top tier
What?
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>>500018070
the base form broly's are the best bang for your buck in dp battle
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New~
>>500019520
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>>500018921
Just because they can transform into 9 DP forms or are they good on their own?
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>>500020005
Kinda both
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>>500011798
>the only ones i can think of are... the biggest and highest selling DBZ games from the last decade...
lol



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