Barely Legal Edition>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2024-update.40951/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked:>>499867794
First for I want to fuck Viper.
Too legal
>>499944435>slides up a ramp then down a ramp then up a ramp then down a ramp then up a ramp then down a ramp then up a ramp then down a ramp then up a ramp then down a ramp then up a ramp then down a ramp then up a ramp then down a ramp then up a ramp then down a ramp
>>499943868cant wait for this bitch to get nerfed >>499944109vindicta is so good right now if you main her and cant carry with her right now you might as well just switch character if you see her even having close to a 50% win rate it means she is probably closer to a 54-55 in the right hands
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
>Vindictanigger posting a new thread as soon as we hit page 10 just so he can have his coomer OPImagine having this mental illness
>>499944631going up the ramp and going down the ramp and now going up the sideways ramp
>>499944779and now down into the basementwhoops now we're sliding out of the basementnow we're going up the rampand now we're going back down the ramphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g23XT_U_NHY
I love how retarded all of the "Rey" builds for McGinnis are, which probably explains why I see so many of them that can't play the game. Half of them are "buy 30k souls worth of spirit items and another 30k of gun items, this is absolutely achievable in a 30 minute game."
>>499944926wtf is rey build
Hey Faggots,My name is Shiv, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.Pic Related: It's me and my score
Haze is so overpowered, I mean what can you even do against her, she just ults and wins??? Like come on Icefraud!
>>499944642>Moleman>57.2%>Abrams>58.6%>Paradox>52.6%>Grey Talon>49.6%>BUT VINDICTA HAS WOPING 48.4% WINRATE, NERF, NERF, NERF, IF SHE'S ABOVE 45% WINRATE SHE'S TOO STRONG,AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHmindbroken
>do rank placement games>keep getting phantom rank lobbiesis ranked just broken or what?
>vindicta is shit>Haha she's so shit i love killing her over and over!>vindicta is good>NOOO THIS IS UNFAIRRRRRRRRR!!!!lmao
>>499945542Certain characters just need straight up reworks
>Gave feedback on the 3 heroes I played from hero labs>Gave feedback on the changes to my main hero>Gave feedback on 2 other patch changes>Not a single one has been seen by anyoneI don't know why they even keep this illusion of a feedback forum, they barely check jack shit after the floodgates were open.And it's no coincidence that the patches have been abhorrent clueless dogshit ever since.
I only care if a toon is bad when they're like Shiv, unkillable gods that break the rules and can 1v3 even when they're out of position in what should be the worst possible spot for them (but is actually the best possible spot because they break the rules).An AP carry doing high damage is not high on my list of issues, it's no different from a sniper in any other shooter.>>499944893>falling back into the systemlmao holy shit, I was trying to figure out what song it was. I had it in my head a week ago and I was convinced it was some old song from the 80s. I asked my dad about it and everything, how embarassing.
>>499945369>>499945542lmao vindicta players are on coke she is a S tier character right now and the game is just toxic af to play when she is good
>>499945759>asked for commends on general gameplay feedback>20 views>commends are infeelsgood, although i cant be the only one that asked for this
>>499945735there's nothing wrong with Vindicta. Meanwhile Gray Talon 1 deals more damage than Vindicta Assassinate, while having x10 times larger projectile size, which is somehow fair and balanced
do you guys actually use 1234 for abilities? it feels so uncomfortable
>>499944769dw bro she'll get giganerfed next patch.>>499945071series of garbage builds created by a tranny.
>Paradox>52.6%single handedly bringing that metric down.i have no fucking idea what to build. wall? gun? spirit wall + gun?eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>499946242No I use Q,E,Z,XI use 1,2,3,C for items
>>499944441Ugly old bat
>>499946242skills: q2e4usables: thumb button on mouse, c z v
>>499946242lol it feels fine if you played smite before
>>499946587You type 'weapon damage' in the search bar and go from there + superior cooldown.
I think its fine, item binds are worse
>>499946242In the end you're gonna have to be able to press all the buttons around WASD frequently so I just kept the default
>>499946480>she'll get giganerfed next patch.Vindicta is not the strongest hero, it's Gray Talon, Vindicta doesn't have insane winrate, that's Mo and Abrams.how come dlg is obsessed with hating Vindicta more than any other hero
>>499945542She was always overpowered, even when people whined the most about her being weak. You're all just morons who don't realize what an advantage flight is in a game like this, so you demand stat buffs on top of it.
>>499947592lol she does have a insane win rate when you take all the shitters away from the hero her win rate is probably closer to the 53-55 range vindicta players are delusional lmao
>>499947592Probably because laning against her is absolutely abysmalIf they reworked her ult I don't think people would care
>>499947592hating on snipers is par for the course on any fps/tps
>>499947894Her ult and hover are the only things remotely interesting about her kit
>>499947928Gray Talon is stronger, doesn't stop /dlg/ from hating primary and exclusively on Vindicta
>>499948014lol both needs nerfs
>>499947592i'd love to give her entire lower half a ten-hour tongue bath
Ranked....I had some really great duels early with the Infernis, but late game fights are impossible since none of the bad players had my back. E.g. we had a mo&krill at our gates, I dived on him, had three knives on him with EE, he ults me and Mccginnis finishes me off, meanwhile the pocket and Mirage are a little farther back, farming creeps.
>>499948002I didn't askAssassinate feels like total garbage to deal with early game so yeah people aren't going to like the character that has it
>>499945393ranks are just your unranked mmr being given a badge
>>499947894they can't rework her ult, she has abysmal neutral clearing time, so she can only gain souls from broooling and laning. If they change it she'd always fall behind on farm and autolose any 20+ minute games
>>499948449people still dont understand that lmao they dont understand that you can legit climb by playing unranked
Can somebody dump all the dancing gifs please?
>>499948508She isn't the only character that has shit clear
>>499948689
>>499948708she's objectively is
>4 ranked games>4 lossesIt's never been more over.
>>499948905>>499948973Do you have the one with Warden doing this dance?also iirc there's only that one and slork breakdancing and that's it?
>>499945353>just buy multiple 6300 soul items and pray she doesnt silence you before pressing 4, she's not broken at all I swear!
>>499948939Mirage and Dynamo both have dogshit clear. Dynamo fixes that with charges and maxed 1, but it's worse than Vindicta before then.
>>499949276>Metal Skin + Return Fire>multiple 6300 soul items?
>>499949234got you bro
>>499945369>cod and ow babies bring down the winrate because they see sniper and immediately think of le epic sniping montage and widowmaker>this means we should keep buffing her broken gun that deals millions of damage when you stack fire rate on her
>>499943868Is Wraith really that good to keep getting nerfed? I feel like Haze or Internus is always better and they only ever get slight nerfs or tweaks.
>>499949276haze probably has more 6300 items than mo (1) in that clip thougheverbeit
>>499949449Thanks manAre there are any other dance gifs? Got the Ivy BA dance?
>>499949586Haze is literally a worse Wraith
>>499949682sadly no
got this world record the other day
>>499949770No worries, thank you for your serviceDeadlock related song coming up here in a few hours called "Curiosity Shop": https://www.twitch.tv/vmusical24
>>499949586Once people started using the diviners kevlar/shadow weave/veil walker build people realised how well Wraith can gank and snowball off that I guess
>>499950150Realistically if you're the enemy there's no way to recover from this, right? The opponents are both going to have their first items and second skills while you're still stuck as your base version.
>>499950589it's tough but doable. i've won games where i had to go back to base with <100 souls
>>499950589yeah we took the guardian fast.don't push into a 1v2 against mcginnis and yamato as dynamo in lane.
Yeah right after winning 5 Miku games in a row the turret build is op now. Actually impossible not to be #1 in net worth.
>>499950589It's definitely recoverable, it's more about whether your lane was hard or not to begin win and dynamo/GT probably can't outpush mcginnis and yamato
>>499946242Yes, it's literally designed for that due to the movement keys.
i fucking hate mirage, man. i am far better than this monkey, yet because his cursor hovered over the screaming arab character, he gets to stay equal in lane and live through not one, but two ults with his tornado. once i grabbed slowing hex he became such a non-issue to the point that i got to take his guardian and walker for free after a clean solo dive.
>>499947592its important to remember any given 4chan thread is infested with people playing low skill heroes like tanks, which she counters, thats why theres a disproportionate amount of hate to how strong she is, anytime shes remotely playable an abrams or mo player is shitting their diaper which coincidentally are always at the top of WRs and never receive hate in threads
rejuv is too easy to steal
>>499951559>Mo>shitting their diapers about vindictaMo fucking mating presses that bitch lmaoJust go carpet and/or phantom strike she literally cannot do anything, a good mo is one of her biggest counters
>>499951559a bunch of words to refuse to accept she is s tier hero
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>499951646spending 6300 souls and trying to ulti hero that hangs out behind frontline is probably fastest way to die in 2 seconds as enemy team focuses you down
>>499947592She's fucking awful to play against, and makes laning a massive chore for most heroes. Gray talon being gigabroken doesn't mean that vindicta is fair or not cancerous.That said, fuck those are some sexy feet. No wonder she has so many down players that don't want to see her nerfed.>>499951559I only play carries like wraith and haze, yet I am probably the biggest vindicta hater in existance.
>>499948435she needs her early game ult damage halved not removed retard
>tfw can't post my good scores to gloat anymore because people will see my shitter rank and no one will be impressedsad times
>>499952518Ill be impressed anon, go ahead and post it
>>499952518the better your scores the higher chance you'll rank upit doesn't matter what your rank is, if your score is good and you're not smurfing then that means you played well for your rank. it's a good thing, man. ignore the elitist dickheads.
>>499952518you could be top 50 in your region, yet low elo people will still clown on you for not being top 10. failing that, they'll make fun of you for anything else, like what hero you play. ignore them.
>>499949586Wraith is good but honestly the devs hate her compared to other characters like Krill and Abrams. They also hate Yamato and Viscous.
>>499945101I read it in his voice.
paradox main hereHELP ME GOD HELP ME EVERY GAME IS SO SUFFERING I'M JUST FARMING OUR JUNGLE SINCE LITERALLY NOBODY ELSE ON MY TEAM IS BUT THEY'RE DEATHBALLING 5v6 INTO A LANE WITHOUT A WALKER FOR SOME REASON AND DYING
>>499944656She doesn't look that bad here, is this fan made?
>>499952970Has anyone done some AI voice shit? we have plenty of samples on youtube of their lines
>get nothing but vindicta for 2 weeks during her worst patches ever>gets marginal buffs that brings her from completely unplayable to barely>suddenly, don't get her 3 games in a rowDIE TOURISTS DIEI WAS SHAPED AND SCULPTED BY THE PATCHES
>>499945101i noticed the shirt is wrong color
>>499953227>take a 2 week break to play metaphor and silent hill while shes unplayable>make anon seethe when I get her
>>499953227>people play heroes that arent shit
>>499953227Just pick Vidicta highest priority and haze/infernus low priority
>>499953227you just suck and game recognizes it. I get Vindicta every single game and one game I didn't get her someone abandoned on first few minutes so I could get her next proper game
The bullet resist change on mo and krill ult is so fucking nice bros, no longer do I need to blind everyone./ pop metal skill before ultingBut at the same time the need for these talents make me think their game is not well thought out at all
>>499953582its tier 1, its impossible to not get
>>499948336unfathomably based
>>4999462421234 for abilities, QEFV for items, very similar to the binds I use for MMOs so it feels natural.
>>499949586She's still pretty good, just a lot more fair compared to the other carries. Keep in mind that haze also got a lot better, so her powerlevel is a little lower in comparision.>>499949710She's actually quite competitive against wraith after last patch. Haze is better at mid game team fights with dagger and smoke, stronger snowball, and can forgo any reload items with the slide tech. Wraith is a little better at lane and splitting, and is a safer pick since she can itemize as a spirit nuker if the enemy starts building armor.
Yup, it's Haze time.
>>499953704what I mean is the hero design was so shit they had to give him innate headshot resistance on top of bullet resist in ult. They were too dumb to realize a two headshot hitbox hero that's huge couldnt ult without dying to competent teams... That's a vision for how the game will play out problem. It's obvious too. So I am scared that this game is not in good hands.
>>499953078I've been having the opposite problem. It's really fucking weird when everyone else on your team is deathly afraid of fighting despite being even or only a bit behindf when I'm usually the one who tries to not just run at the enemy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jhb05gL3R0
>>499952518*taps sign*Trying to get respect from nerds is a fools errand.
>>499951534>take le epic hard counter item>this is enough to turn an even lane (against someone higher ranked than you with a stronger laning hero) into a 7-0It kind of sounds like you bought a crutch item and now you think you're hot shit by bragging about it online.
>>499951534I TAKE YOUR LIFE
>>499946242Q, E and G. Ult on F. Parry on V. Melee on mouse4. Items on 1234. Might put one of the items on something better.
>>499954267If I'm playing Mirage or Paradox, it's>team gets into a deathball 5v6 while I'm trying to push our lanes that have been shoved up to our base>drop everything to run over, everything seems fine, see a few low HP enemies and a full HP ally>initiate>entire ally team has teleported across the map and is farming, and four full-health enemies materialize out of nowhere to kill meWithout fail.
>>499944926post them
>>499949586>press 4>press 3>left click>guaranteed killShe's still really good
>>499954504It's a one division difference, yet I have four times the denies, took his t1 and t2 sub within a minute's time, and had the higher souls/minute than him for the entire game. The fact that you call an active item a crutch says a lot about your mindset.>>499954687CONSOOOOM THEM (ze bugs)
almost 6' you guys wanna inhouse?
>>499954504slowing hex has a travel time you can literally tornado before it lands on you as a good mirage
>>499953078>>499954869I've just been working on a way to push waves even faster, and so far (in pisslow) its working.>Get core items, usually lines up to be 2 of each category>save money and just continuously gank>buy Ricochet>The lanes and camps I hit get cleared so fast, I can join my team in these dumbass fights and win
>>499955536probably.
Gun Ivy is so fucking obnoxious and broken, god.
>solo lane against a yamanigger>you now have a rabid mouthbreather gunning for you every second of the early lane phase
Who the fuck is this
>>499955562that's the point. getting him to use tornado to dodge slowing hex leaves him vulnerable to getting hit with wraith ult.
>>499955992a tranny (not kidding)
>>499955992Rey. It says it right there. Dummy.
>>499955992https://www.twitch.tv/reythepuppygirl/videos
>>499955385You're playing a roaming massive damage assassin who decides teamfights just by existing, he's playing a laning specialist with a little bit of lategame utility who has to shoehorn himself into a tank role to be playable. You shouldn't be able to beat him by buying one item. It should be the opposite.>yet I have four times the denies, took his t1 and t2 sub within a minute's time, and had the higher souls/minute than him for the entire gameThese aren't good metrics for your skill. They just show that you won lane because of the items you bought. Of course you'll have more denies if he has to concentrate on just staying alive while you can safely kill his minions in a few seconds with no danger of getting denied.
>>499955979>when youre trying to farm and the opponent wants to play a pvp gamegooooooooooooooooooooooood
>>499955992So this is what mcginnis mains are like. It all makes sense now
So does the game just start dropping frames like crazy after while for everyone? Because I never had frame drops before this update
>>499956158>one trick pony is a trans gooner
yep we're so back
>>499956158>>499956207mikufags I'm going to need an explanation
>>499956426>>499956158the stream title is bragging about having top builds, meanwhile NKD exists, that guy runs circles around pro players 24/7 and makes them look like retards
>>499954109His hero design is fine, he doesn't need most of the buffs he gets. He was already solidly A-tier (if not S-tier) in human MMR, now he's a menace
>>499956426MOBA is a tranny genre
>>499956207>>499956426Ew, not my Miku
>>499956563you have a point
>>499956426I didn't need a troon to tell me how to buildt. ult build since early september
>>499956674Vile
If denies and souls per minute don't filter out time you spend respawning and traveling to lane, then they're worthless metrics. You'll look at the metrics of guy who had 20 deaths and you'll go "hmmm your denies and souls per minute were low, you need to focus on denying and farming. you died because you weren't farming enough.". When of course he has low souls and denies, he was dead half the game, you can't deny or farm while you're dead.
>>499956563scroched earth eh, a bold strategy nigger
>>499956101most mirage just build full tank though, if there's a wraith im going metal skin or eth shift guaranteed
>>499956674i wonder if hed still have trooned out if he didnt sexually assault some women
>>499956812He was zero/zero until 13 minutes.
>>499956780you ain't seen nothing yet
>>499956365yass queen
>>499956206Who finds fighting a yamanigger fun (especially when they ult on imminent defeat)?
>>499956365>mo and krillYou cheated not only the game, but yourself
>>499957207dont care + you're archon rank
>>499953462devs already said this isn't how hero priority worksyou're gay and retarded
>>499956994Quoted the wrong post?
>>499953462I suck and I get Vindicta every single game>>499957030
what went wrong?
>>499957124this applies to literally every character when they play to their strengths, do you find if fun when mcginnix walls you, or abrams pushes you into a wall and shoves his giant blue cock in your ass, or infernus runs past you while setting you on fire for 15 seconds, or mo and krill combos you and you have to watch for 3 seconds as your character gets mauled, open your third eye and realize the truth or live forever in the dark
PSA: Most of your builds should be gun centric. Dammit, its a shooter. Everyone is an ADC.Then, depending on your character, go spirit or tank secondary.
>>499957454how many porn tabs do you have open this time?
what exactly do you gain from downplaying your hero? are downplayers looking for>A) undeserved buffs and/or dodge nerfs>B) insecure, trying to cope with losing on strong hero
>>499957454It's not a fucking good game? It's boring, slow, and poorly designed? It's clearly completely unfinished and that prompts people to leave and come back when it's done? The developers blatantly have no interest in the game and are just trying to justify their exorbitant paycheques? There's no reason to have faith in Valve given their track record over the last decade? The entire game appeals to no audience whatsoever - too unskilled and mathy to appeal to the adderall-abusers and too twitchy and movement-based to appeal to the sluggish teamfight crowd? The devs have no idea how to design either a moba or a shooter and yet have tried to jam them together? It's competing for people's attention with two different genres at once, both with much better games?IDK pick one??
>>499957454too many blacks
>>499957454no hot girls
>>499957847I dont know, abrams has almost a 60% win rate but the playerbase in this thread talk like they are gods gift to gaming for knowing where their melee button is located
>>499957859why are you here?
>>499957482A better way to phrase it is that every character has a 100-150 DPS gun by default and can turn it into a 4-500 DPS gun with a few cheap staple items.
waiting for valvegina to add a gamemode that removes all MOBA mechanics and turns the game into a regular TPS movement shooter.
>>499957859what a miserable person
>>499957454Oh looks like you learned how to crop your screenshots now huh?
>>499957847>no you don't get it my hero is skillful and requires 1000 hours just to win a single gameIt's why pocket mains were so uppity even back when he was broken as fuck
>>499958109nigga fortnite is right here
>>499951534You were playing one of the most braindead overpowered characters in the game and you lost to one of the weakest and skill intensive characters in the game. You just suck and are coping hard.
>>499958067Why did you respond to me with the first stupid thing that popped into your head? Because we're both flawed individuals, that's why. I get easily addicted to garbage games, and you have the brainpower of a slug. We're equally bad.
>>499958109Filtered.
>>499957454Same as every other fucking thing in the last 2 months.Gay patches that make the game worse, don't address the problematic heroes and make one or two heroes into huge issues.
>>499958109why would you attach such a good image, to such a dogshit post...
>>499958440let me rephrase this:"...so I can practice aim for my gun builds"is that redeemable?
>>499958254>Actually, it was you who lost the game!Is this some sort advanced form of copium?
>>499957454Its a shooter + DotA at the same time. I love it, but this is not a casual-friendly game. When Riot makes their version called Shockwave or whatever, its going to blow it out of the water.It'll be simple like League of Legends, no shop that's filled with shit that doesn't build into anything, no heroes that prevent from playing because you're on the screen (unless you MASSIVELY fuck up), and when you have a super advantage like Baron/Roshan/Mid, the game has a much better chance of ending.
>can't aim>bad internet>most characters not really fun>friends obsessed with this gameI guess this is what becoming a boomer feels like bros, only one I have fun playing is lash but I feel incompetent every game
>>499957847niggas accused me of downplaying when I knew that Seven was on the verge of being absolute dogshit Now, the redditors won, and my predictions came true
The more I play this game the more I realize that "hard" roles in multiplayer games were a fucking mistake. Co-op games likes Diablo 2 & EDF, along with breadsock, have the right idea.
>>499957454Too much MOBA crap
>>499958590you chimped out because your free kill button didn't give you a free kill. you definitely lost.
>>499959145too bad there will 100% be hard roles once they add a draft or some shit.
>>499959016People are just playing him wrong; still trying to play spirit carry instead of using his insane support potential
>>499955992is it true every single one of these builds is bad
>>499959447>his insane support potentialbro what are you talking about, they gutted his stun? None of his 3 other abilities provide any support
>>499956547well they removed his solo carry potential by nerfing escalating exposure so now it seems they want him back to be able to work alone and buffed his solo kill potentialit doesnt really make sense to me either ,but valve wants every character to be good on their own to reduce toxicity from lack of coordination of teammates
>>499959551Of course. If trannies were capable of rational thought they wouldn't be trannies in the first place. All trannies are bad at all games.
>>499959016Seven gets brutalized regularly because pisslow redditors are still standing in his ult/ball and getting 100-0'd It's the same reason that Haze keeps getting nerfed even though she is bad now, retards who don't buy active items standing in her ult and getting bursted down
>>499959689His stun is very strong, his balls slow, and he can excellently shred armor. Items like Mystic Slow and Bullet Resist Shredder are great since you easily do spirit damage to the entire enemy team constantly, and can apply all sorts of annoying shit.You still do good damage if they stand in your ball too, so it's amazing area denial.
This game would be amazing if other people didn't exist
>>499959447If you're gonna go support, why not choose a better support hero like dynamo, kelvin, ivy, or viscous? Like the other anon said, they nerfed his stun duration patches ago, so echo shard 2 is alright and gets worse higher elo you go with debut remover, ivy stone form, pocket briefcase, metal skin, ethereal shift etc. Maybe you throw yourself in there with self-stun, but that is situational too>>499959929too realAnd they cannot fathom complaining about their tranny furfag waifu Ivy who also has massive AOE spam. The kind of retards IceFraud panders to is disheartening>>499960146Can't other heroes do it better? The only thing he has is a wide ranged stun, but area denial/spirit rebuffs are more Ivy AOE
>>499958997>boomer>play only with one other friend that just turned 30>rest of my internet friends were younger brother's friends first, and they play shit like hunt showdown and seige>only got one of them to play deadlock, and stopped playing after one too many bad matchups>other irl friends have kids and can't play or schedules just don't aligntrade you
>>499960146But other heroes do support so much better, and Seven built around his 3 is genuinely an insane carry and still provides all those things, but with more damage
is this game really region locked? I'm in northern eu and literally all my games the past month have been have had at least 4-5 russians is yoshi a liar?
>>499961402>northern euiirc russia server is in finland or sweden or something so you are fucked lol
>>499961029fair enough anon
>>499958184You know this is a nasty man when you see 4 motherless tabs
>>499947592Honestly her and Grey Talon are annoying to play against, they are playing on a completely different x and y axis and everytime they are meta i have to buy a 3k item just to be able to hit them
>>499961580>motherless Good God this is next level gooner brain damage
>>499960886there is quite litcherally an option to play vs ai
>>499961731Yeah its nasty, but 'anal bound to a sawhorse' was a pretty good film
>>499961517fuck my stupid slork life
>>499960886At the end of a match you should be able to downvote players and the player with the most downvotes gets a bigger MMR hit than everyone else.On that note, I know judging individual player performance in a match is suspect at best, but have they mentioned at least trying?
>>499959145How are set classes not hard roles? Good luck kiting a whole swarm as Air Raider.
>>499962101they do judge individual performance for giving you your rankthe rank 1 player was some cheater on a brand new account glitching under the map getting 40 kills every game
>>499962251Oh interesting, so if I lose with a positive KDA (and SPM, presumably), that'll cushion the blow, potentially?
>>499961580>>499961731what is motherless?
>>499957454As much as I like Ivy and Mo, its still in alpha and unbalanced as sin, and it just doesn't have that mass appeal nor casual-friendly gameplay loop in mind to keep people engaged
A character doesn't have to have a high ein rate to be annoying to play against. Gray Talon and Vindicta are too fucking annoying to play against because theor flight is essentially just quasi-invulnerability while they can just dish out free damage. Sure Knock-down stops them but in lane they're just insufferable.
>>499962350child porn dog rape murder
>>499961517>>499962095russia has a law for online gaming that requires strict regulation iirc it's recording everything in voicechat and storing it so they keep servers outside of russia
>>499962350its an older site that had a lot of videos you wouldnt find other places, at one point it was easy to find cp, bestiality,incest, gore etc. videos but its been purged of most of it from what I remember
>>499962350Former extreme gooner, here:Massive, MASSIVE leak/revenge porn site of random people and teens.
>>499949586She is the biggest cancer in the game currently.
Where can I see hero performance over a desired period of time? Tracklock seems busted I want to see performance over a couple of days
Can't tell if I'm gettin worse, if matchmaking is getting worse.
>>499963048Matchmaking is getting worse for sure. Sometimes I get paired against a lobotomite that doesn't click on orbs. Other times I get paired against someone who practically feels like they're aimbotting with perfect prefire against every orb.
How do I up my harass-in-lane game? I feel like I play absolutely every lane next to my guardian with my partner. I don't lose the lanes usually, but I feel like I'd be having more fun doing more harassing...
>>499952518I will not care even if you are eternus 6. Post funny webms instead and i will be impressed.
where the fuck is inhouse
>>499961402Yes but slavniggers switch to EU servers so we still get to enjoy their unhinged ranting. I'm in the UK and I still get them in all my games.
>demolish a team>found out that one of the players was on twitchIt's always nice when you get a loser's POV that isn't yours.I thought I made them frustrated, but they were actually just chilling except for the times when I hit their triple flyer team with a Knockdown.One guy said "is this shit actually undodgeable?"
>>499963048Matchmaking is getting worse. Earlier today I had a match with an actual first time player on my team, he died 20 times as Abrams and had 0 kills and 0 assists. He only did 2,000 damage over the course of a 30 minute game. He spent the last five minutes bitching about how the game was stupid because his weapons didn't deal damage and the game wasn't about skill and aiming.
>>499958184Based motherless enjoyer, I remember the questionable threads on /b/ back in the day.
>>499963459Abrams needs to be removed from the new player category so badly. He is NOT good for new players.
>>499963443I had a streamer on my team (no idea if he was streaming, he just said that he's a streamer when someone asked why his mic was so good) and he proceeded to feed all game with Infernus.He didn't rage or anything though so I wasn't mad.
>>499963151denial mechanics are heavily latency dependentunironically practice on the well in sandboxshoot for <300ms shotsthe times are how long it took the server to confirm your souls, NOT the speed you clicked ithowever, nice thing about sandbox is it runs local, so it is exactly how long you took from the time the orb was poppable to the time you popped itsub 300ms times are really good, and can guarantee you soul orbs at least 50% of the time, even in high mmrs, if you have less than 200ms pingif you have 200ms+, get better internet, unironically - you will get denied more
>>499963740my gut feeling is that if you have more than 200ms ping you have bigger worries than getting denied
>Lost all but one placement match>Have only lost one in my rankWe are so back.
You know, they buffed Paradox so they can justify nerfing her more.
I don't know what to build on Pocket now. Leap got nerfed hard, Improved Burst is useless on him just by the enemy having 20% spirit armor, Improved Spirit is useless because his spirit scaling is ass.
>>499963861I don't think winning or losing placement matches really matter. It's all about your performance
>>499963912I abandoned him once they changed Ethereal Shift. All the beauty of playing him is gone. I can no longer dance around my keyboard making elegant plays
>>499963740Maybe this is the case, but that's really not my point. My point is that sometimes I get placed against players who clearly are just mechanically better than me. Like strictly better than me. I accept that there will always be a better player than me. It's just frustrating that sometimes the matchmaker pairs me against such obviously better players. I want people near my level. Not people who clearly that much better than me.
BBGN1Inhouse NOW!
>>499964102Way to beat me to it by 30 seconds.
Why does ethereal shift have to give you a buff after using it? It's use was clear and obvious, it's an item that counters reactable stuns or situations where you would 100% die. The fact that they nerfed it so it can't be cancelled it early but are doubling down on it buffing you is so retarded. Remove any buff it has and let you cancel it again.
>>499963740>latencyI'm getting a lot of packet loss and desync in the game despite being kind of high speed, so I just see bullets flying through stuff
>>499964268This.
>>499964268the cancel was being abused by viscous combined with warp stone/phantom strike to get 4 free hits of goo ball.
>>499964447then delete viscous from the game. problem solved
>>499964447Almost like that FAGGOT CHARACTER should be nerfed instead. >Magician's hex specifically states it does not cancelled channeled abilities so against viscous ball all it does is give him a speed buffThey really don't want people to fucking counter viscous for some reason.
>>499964447It sounds like the problem was Viscous not the item.
all my teammates jungling as we lose walkers in ranked how can i throw subtly to get this over faster? also jungling?
>>499964775call for a fight and then die when they don't show up
Predictions on which team will win?
>queue up for one game>get stomped, every lane loses, we never have a chance>too scared to queue again
>>499964932Soul carries
>>499964997no one asked tranny
>Deadlock network offlinedamn, least it doesn't effect inhouse, probably
why did they nerf him so hardhe's elite-level garbage now
viscous doesn't deserve to be goodaids kitshould always be a meme pick
BBGN12 slots left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>499960951>>499961216I disagree with other heroes doing it better. Other heroes offer different tools, but nobody comes close to Seven in terms of being able to have near 100% uptime on everyone with his shreds via his 3 and ball spam.I think the real problem is just that the roster is too small so you can have those support heroes too, and maybe it'd be more apparent if that wasn't the case. But you only need two carries really, and the rest can support them, so you can throw Seven in successfully quite well.
>>499964102Can we coordinate an all MikuGuiness game?
>>499965589No, it's a pain in the ass it would literally require the entire lobby to disconnect.
>>499965024>>499965589no lash only game
>>499965487fuck that duplicate heroes shit
>>499964775seems to be my experience most games
>>499964775Run urn, if they come then they lose teamfight. If they don't then you're basically handing it to the enemy for free.
Slow-Poke here, what's the deal with Hero Lab? It's like a slightly more controlled testing zone for the new-new heroes, but there's like a time limit?
I dont know if wraith the best choice but somebody already took lash and shiv seems like ass now
>>499965665We've already got 6 people who're going to do that anyways
>>499965523I feel like most heroes should be played like carries anyway, but that's a valid strat for 7. It just isn't as self-sufficient anymore
>>499964102how long does it take for these to fill upnever been in one
>>499965742Yes there's a time limit.It's a broken mess and half the heroes don't work and/or will get you stuck in walls and there's broken auto win heroes.It's made a lot worse because only 6 people can play these new heroes so if you don't get one you'll have to fight goliath with a slingshot.It's very fun the first couple times but it becomes tiring really quickly.
>>499965672Duplicate hero is lame I agree
>>499965936how about you just join retard
>>499965672>>499965976autism, it's just a bit, a meme if u will.
>>4999659365-10ish mins
>>499966037im scared of you...especially now that you've called me a retard...
BBGN11 more. Also, don't do duplicate heroes it's just a pain in the ass to set up and I don't and I don't want to waste time trying to set it up
I just prefer playing Miku in general, duplicate or not
This Lash was never at any team fights. Holy crap, I know he could have turned around the game but as we were taking patron, he was in our base taking shrines.
>>499965971Thx for info; may all your lanes be won and your teammates decent
>>499965864>I feel like most heroes should be played like carries anywayI see what you mean, but I think if you can peel off those that can jungle solo early and quickly then you can just soak up a lot more total souls. And the 'support' heroes tend to be the ones who can easily hold lanes through stellar AoE clear and survivability, while the 'carries' rape the jungle. As the game becomes more developed I think you'll see that more. I think there will be more pushing of souls onto players too, since one guy having 6200 is much more impactful than three having 2067, so after seven minutes I think staying away from the designated carries will become optimal, so they soak up full souls instead of splitting it.
>>499966486It's always fun when a single player thinks he's going to base race a whole team. Especially when that single player is one that's WAAAAY more effective in a team fight
Absolute fucking mud today. Can't hate the game though I had bad plays but wow there were some shitty teams and team comps.
>>499961402YesMiddle East and I am forced to play with SEAmonkeys, pajeets, and other Asians. You don't know what hell feels like.
>>499967481>Middle Easthow many slaves do you own?
>>499967481That actually sounds dreadful. Condolences
>>499966998>seven who's been sucking up farms the entire game and is 20k ahead of everyone else on his team because they cant farm>patron is getting assraped>he's alone at their base trying to take down a shrine
>>499967481Do you find it offensive that Mirage has a genie and uses sand powers and also shoots desert bugs at people
SHENDING BEETULS
who has the best voice lines and why is it shiv
>tfw you piledrive a nigger skull into the concreteyep, just lash things, that'll teach that shopkeeper faggot to call me a Celtic in a derogatory way
>>499968897seven
>>499967691Not him but I knew a guy who moved to Dubai and is basically a slave himself, but he sends a fuckload of money back to his homeland (Brazil).
>shadow weaveinto>slowing hex>silence glyph>ult>3>1>1>1>1>1all in two or 3 seconds
>>499969352Evil rapist build
>>499945353Good job, but not every game will have a mo and krill going up against haze hence why winrates are so skewed as fuck
Is the game back to being fun yet?
Hehehe....see that shit?
>>499969646If you like playing snipers yeah
>>499969646We're 10% there
>>499969638>you need to be mo and krill to buy metal skin and return firewalmart bathroom mmr
>>499969693Can cuss words be removed from the game please? It makes me feel uncomfortable.
McGinnis seems overpowered as fuck. Literally does 20000 damage in 2 seconds if you try to go in. Fuck this hero. >has the best stun / team fight separator>best defensive skills>best gun that melts everyone trying to fight her>healing just because>ult that melts all objectivesbroken as fuck
>>499964856>>499965689>>499965691we ended up winning cause they called me out for dying "out of position" (I was under a walker and got dove+swapped by 3 people) then I told them to stop jungling if they dont want me to die it's not my fault. They actually agreed and stopped and we won
>>499969939All shes missing is a nude mod
>>499969773he burrows you fucking nigger which gives insane bullet resistancename one fucking hero that has thatI'll waitOh wait, you're a fucking shitter nigger wood tier so you won't bother.
>>499965348no he's not
>>499970041turns out being not autistic helps
>>499970113>he's taking no damage because of burrow!!!t. ritualist 2
>>499970247STUPIDFUCKING NIGGERMETAL SKIN DURATIONVSLATE GAME HAZE ULT DURATIONOH WAIT YOU'RE A SHITTER SO YOU DON'T KNOW
>>499970113>name one fucking hero that has thatviscous
ENJOY THE NERF YAMANIGGER 2 MORE WEEKS
>>499970328what do you think happens when haze is dumping 100000 dps into enemies that is negated by metal skin and reflected to her with return fire while that hero is also pumping their own damage into heri dont need to know your actual rank because if you can't handle haze then you are archon MAX lmfao faggot
My man majestic leap did not deserve those nerfs. Not cool
>>499969939Miku is totally busted, even when I play tanky characters that don't die to her she is impossible to kill, I'm forced to walk out of the fight like a cuck. Not even fed mikus either, they can be down in souls and still destroy everyone
>>499970383That's not resistance, that's immunity and he disables himself. Mo and Krill in that video keeps melting the Haze nigger. That's not at all the same. What the fuck is going on with this general at this hour? Is it just Russian retards right now?
Someone with the stats please tell me how much damage I did with torment that game.>>499970440Nah buffs soon tm
BBGN11 more
ong if i get scrambled on solo lane as ivy one more time im just going double lane on other side lane fr
>>499970673just ask to switch out lanes nigger
>>499970590>what is goo ballthe actual problem with the webm is that haze is aiming for where Mo's hitbox normally is and thus not hitting, watch the fixation stacks. Happens with a lot of stuff
2 more weeks..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>499970673
>>4999676910, n-no slaves here, keep m-moving...>>499969245What's he working as?>>499968615No, it's cool, but djinn being a small homunculus that has to rely on a human sounds like a bitch portrayal of creatures that are literally demons.Why not make the dude straight-up a Genie?Same with Calico being a nigger instead of an Egyptian (forma de Kangz)
>>499965665They have the option for duplicate heroes, why do we need to jump through more hoops to get it to work properly?
>>499970802I've never seen a fucking goo go into a Haze ult without dyinggood try nigger
>>499970780i literally asked at game start all i got was total silence
>>499970945It's a neat interpretation of the genie in a lamp trope, kys
If a game goes at least 30 minutes and it ends without you doing any objective damage you should get a week long ban
>>499971134SPEAK LOUDER
wtf is 50 agent cute now?
>>499967481I dread playing with chinks. Either cheaters or the most obnoxious shitters with no self awareness you've ever met. The rest range from alright to bad.
>>499971007>DOESN'T COUNTevery time
bets?
>>499971601Always bet on Abrams.
>>499971181Never thought about it that way. "Genie in a lamp" trope here isn't as ubiquitous as western-made media inspired by 1001 Nights makes it look like. Hell nobody in this entire region even cares about 1001 Nights because it's tooth fairy-tier folklore and has time for that shit unless you're literally a toddler.Actually Wokeslop / DEI-lock accusations make it look like a male pregnancy analogy, if you look at it from a schizo perspective.
>>499971659It's abrams into a solo sniper matchup...
>>499971861Did I stutter?
all they need to do to make miku balanced is make it so her turrets dont apply status effects and have half health
>>499971861>slowing hexgg go next
>>499971843It's just a funny little genie in a bottle meme and he wants to buy Wyoming
>>499972140>halve their health>againhow about remove the charges and give me a 1:1 tf2 sentry with the levels being the upgrades?
>>499972140Miku isn't really broken and the best part of her kit isn't her turrets, even with the turret buff.
My entire miku strategy relied on ratting with majestic leap and jumping away when someone came to defendBut now they can just shoot me and ruin all the jump momentum
>magician has paradox's ultis that placeholder or are they changing paradox's ult?
I just got fully disconnected from inhouse anyone else?
>>499969939You're right but only for the wall, the rest of her is easily dealt with.The wall not being able to be broken is absolute bullshit and is the single best ability in the game.
Inhouse open?
>>499972767they have said that some abilities are placeholder and a lot is copied from other heroes
>>499972804yoshi: UPDATE TIME!
>>499972929match going on
>>499973032I want to spectate post id
>>499972937got me hopeful
>>49997309025025505 is match id.
>>499973207the final ability could still be some kind of swapa side-grade of paradox's ultit would be thematically appropriate for a magician
>>499973329i'm thinking it's a character swap like you get to play as savannah for a short time
>>499971912im letting you down in real time
>up against vindicta or gay talon>leave the gameI will do this until I'm banned.
>you can play on different teams in sandboxHOLY FUCK BROS 1V1 INHOUSE TOURNAMENT WHEN
>abrams farms all game>doesnt show up for teamfight enemies get boss>stays outside base and dies >70s respawn timer versus rejuvenatorwhy do monkeys do this
>you still can't disarm the fucking talon traps Remove this fucking nigger character from the game jesus christ
>>499973563>lane against a character i don't like>leaveit's that easy you're in control of your fun
>>499974417walk into them with debuff remover on
>>499974417>traps now have an hp bar to remove them>instead they arm 0.5s after hitting groundu rike?
>>499971601Amber wins easily
How does d tier seven have most kills in inhouse rn? /dlg/???
How do I tank my MMR as quickly as possible?
>>499974906queue with low mmr friend and lose games or force yourself into low prio and lose games (latter only works if ur high mmr)
>>499967481I play in Asia and it's chill as fuck dude.
>>499974906just run off meta-builds, ignore macro, and the forced 50 agents will do the heavy lifting for you
SEX with VindictaChoking Vindicta as I pour semen into her womb
>>499974601is 0.5s as long as it takes for geist's bomb to explode? then sure
i hate these map icons you had a month to make them consistent
>>499974601>talons throwing traps at people for free damage ampyou don't want this
>>499975742>gun talon>maxing talon 3 shiggy
>>499975576Everyone knows you're a virgin
Anyone making a party for labs?
>>499975868I'm barriermaxxing, I don't need the early lifesteal.
>>499974906brother you actually cant tank it lmao you can go on a massive lose streak but you will go back up eventually this system is pretty crazy
>>499974906jungle
How do you send messages as spectator
Shield vs ResistHelp
>>499975880>labs when niggercat turret exists
>>499976151shield if low iq. resist if high iq
>>499976151shield if high iq. resist if low iq
>>499976120Shift + enter to type in allchat as spec.
>>499976151resist to not bother with pressing buttons
>>499976151Shields are a lot more value up front, but resists give you way more EHP later on. For example 25% bullet resist (Bullet Armor) is equivalent to a 250 HP shield with 1000 HP. But with 2000 HP it's equivalent to 500 HP worth of shields
Improved bullet/spirit armor EVERY MATCH ALWAYS
>>499976524shields are also naturally tailored for more bursty/hit & run kits, compared to resists for broooolers
>>499976151bullet shields sucks if enemy buys emblem buy it last or never its kinda ass. Spirit shield good for cd it gives. Spirit resist is a top tier item buy it. Bullet resist to fuck over haze and abrams cuz it also resists melee attacks.
>>499976151>>499976524Resist if lots of base HP or healingShields if squishy or you want damage tooBuying shields without Veilwalker or Divine Barrier is a waste tho
>>499976647but if they get curse they fuck you even harder especially as wraith
>52 minute inhouse
whos got the matchid for that one
Sorry about the poor Miku performance in the inhouse, I'm still learning her.
>>499971659>>499974681amber won. gg go next.
don't tell me you guys are gonna play slop labs
>>499977095> I'm still learning herthats cope you just fucking suck
>>499977203feet only please fix your mic
>>499971659>>499977203i let you down abrams poster
>>499977095heres my tip: get heroic aura and go to a lane opposite of where the enemy team currently are thats miku
Soul you are TRASH
BBGN1BBGN1BBGN1Inhouse up
>>499977203i just wanted to go double stun support seven :(
>>499977203>see our geist get mo ulted>"oh shit">manages to ult back up>"oh thank god">mo refreshes ult and immediately ults her againtop kek
>>499977095I dunno, use your giant minigun I guess
>>499977412>I don't play inhouses for 2 days>they find someone else to screech at when they losethings are starting to make sense
>>499977095you went 0/8/0 and it was still insanely fucking obnoxiouswe were on perma lane janny mode
>>499977620you forgot the part where whevs, praz(who doesnt know how to play lash) and soul watch me from afar and do nothing
>he's still trying to be relevantis it mental illness?
BBGN1BBGN1BBGN1NEED 1 FOR INHOUSE
>>499977790>we were on perma lane janny modefunny thing about that, is that miku and nothing to do with that
>>499977203I've genuinely never seen meppz win on haze.
https://streamable.com/x7wnflHere's the play that lost us the fucking inhouse. Just killed two, was behind the rest of the enemy team, about to melt the seven and then nigger fucking bebop pulls him away, then bops him away, then I get disarmed, then I get stunned, die, then abrams and bebop chase seven while the rest of our team gets ass fucked with no lube. Literally would've won if this nigger cattle bebop who has been completely useless all day didn't decide to finally hit a hook for once. btw, I could be wrong but I don't think I saw the bebop use ult once all game.
>>499978089the 2 inhouses I played I just target farmed him. can only imagine how bad the lobby must've been
>>499978161meppz was getting shit on it was just haze on a minute 52 game
>>499978118WTF WAS MIKU AND LASH DOINGFUCKING FIGHT
>>499977847Just imagine their life and looks irl and it all makes sense
>>499978089Literally always get the worst team possible when i'm on haze
>>499978225>52 minute gamechrist
>>499978118PLAY OF THE GAME
There really needs to be a new dev team working on this game. Shits pretty dead and the dota balance just ruins everything. I know people keep memeing about this being a dead game but it's feeling more true every day.I'm hoping the new heroes will bring in some variety but given how the current team balances this game I don't have high expectations.
>8 hero lab matches since the patch>have yet to play with one of the new heroes Yoshi please... I have all six of them with purple star...
>>499978647the game was better when all the heroes was overtuned
there's literally no way to counter a haze ult and there's nothing any of you niggers can say to convince me otherwise
>>499978647>let's make bebop the literally worst hero in the game by taling away 20 fucking percent of his stacks when he dies because people can't buy something as simple as debuff remover.>but let's keep wraith, infernus and haze untouched for some reason.
>>499978647Game does feel pretty aimless at the moment. I don't have much faith in yoshi to provide a finished product any time soon. It's like he had a plan, but several things just went wrong somehow and now he has to rethink all of it
>>499979026Also what infuriates me the most is that in 6 out of 8 matches one of the new heroes disconnects 5 minutes inFucking niggers
>>499979248Nigger he's still really good just don't build bomb like a retard or do and don't die
>>499979248Keep crying beboptranny, you are worthless
>>499975898Bumping this
>>499979335Look at the game this was previously called. Look at it now. It's the same game, somehow. That's friggen weird and a really bad omen.Also I am salty as shit about the Viscous nerfs. You see Haze every game and Grey Talon can do absurd damage with his Q but somehow Viscous gets nerfed. what the flying fuck. It's a very dota issue where if a character has a cool power you need to make them useless because they don't interact with the item based counter system properly.
>>499979074Curse, Seven stun if her Unstoppable timing isn't literally perfect.
>>499975898i would join but what is your rank tried playing with one of you guys yesterday and the rank difference was to big i am phantom+
>lane against abrams>rush reactive barrier>they tower dive>shield pops>they die>ragequits before I could type "?" in chat
>>499979545He's still really good indeed if you ignore the part where he's the worst character in the game at the moment. Or if you just sit really far away behind your team and running away like a chicken the second someone dies.
I'm 15-7 in ranked since the ratings were given. How much do you think I'd move up?
>>499978118>>499978310>cropped out the funniest momentwhy did you spend 3k souls on slowing bullets and boots instead of buying burst fire? that early investment on superior stamina would've looked a lot less troll if you had burst fire and used your slides to compensate the lack of reload or ammo items. that abrams should've took those souls if you would've lost to shopkeeper anyways.
>>499980027lmao have you been winning your unranked games also people keep forgetting unranked is also seeded into your ranked games
>>499980075wasn't haze declared grief tier already
>VS'ing a good Infernus>Buy Healbane (40% Healing Reduction)>Buy Toxic Bullets (65% Healing Reduction on shooting him)>Put him in my bubble, 1v1>I shoot him and he's still regaining health a fucking lot in my bubblewhatIs the % not additive? 40%+65%=105%. Or is it doing 40% * 1.65 for 66% healing reduction
>>499980026I'm 17-4 at Archon 2 and my lobbies are full of mostly Archon 4-6 nowJust check the average ranks of your last few games and that's probably where you'll be at tuesday
>>499980337what do you mean by grief tier? the person playing her or the hero's meta placement in general?
>>499980481hero placement
>the most broken heroes are also the most boringI genuinely feel like this game is gonna die before it's out
>>499979805>lane against abums>deny them a couple times>knowing their peanut brain starts to fry with rage at deny sounds>get into melee range for free parryits just that easy
>>499946587>i have no fucking idea what to build. wall? gun? spirit wall + gun?I've been using this build to good success and had a vindicta main say that paradox is the most broken character in the game after I went 12/4/14 so idk its probably pretty goodshe definitely feels like a character who needs to use all of her kit at once. the weapon damage makes carbine take nice chunks from people at a distance. just getting hella headshots with her regular gun is more dps but you have to be up close compared to being able to tag someone distracted fighting your team from a mile away and also freezing them in place for over a second while the person they're fighting gets to DPS them for free every 10s or so once you get the cooldown low enough (carbines cooldown starts ticking as soon as you start charging it). I don't think grenade/wall/swap are worth getting spirit items to actually make them do more damage besides echo shard grenade, instead its a lot of duration/cooldown/range stuff that also boosts carbine in some way. grenade buffs your damage (and its own damage per pulse which is part of what makes it so godly at cleaning up waves/farming now) and wall does a flat 10% so even if it doesn't do tons of damage its enough to discourage people from fighting there which lets you and your team take the better positon and fuck em up (and then you swap them back into the shit)in terms of skills this varies depending on how the game is going but I generally go carbine or grenade to 5 (grenade 5 being so great at farming if I know I'm eating shit in lane and need to catch up, carbine if I'm landing lots of shots/ahead) while getting a point in swap to lower its cooldown > carbine or grenade to 5 whatever I didn't max yet -> then either max wall or swap next depending on how the game is going/who i'm fighting against/mood
so uhh, what's the point of the test mode if they dont do any balancing between tests and slork is still just the strongest character ever
>>499980574she's actually really good when played by someone who actually knows all of her strengths and weaknesses really well. standing still and not using the dash delay cancel tech with your burst fire to kill somebody at 20 minutes for one stamina bar is not playing her correctly. a good haze looks incredibly flashy dashing around when played well.
>>499980325Don't play unranked
There's no way you two subhumans picked the most fundamentally broken hero in the game twice on the same teamHow desperate are you for a win?
>>499980375Everything is multiplicative, additive would be retarded (you could hit >100% resists and then heal when you get shot)
the inhouses have given me a new found level of respect for the random russians placed on my team in euit could be worse i could have meppz
>>499979074Haze ult is very play aroundable. Line of sight is 75% of this game. If she gets fed and gets duration extender yeah you are dealing with a hard carry.
vindicta, lash, 2 kelvins, and giest. shameful.
>>499980075>why did you spend 3k souls on slowing bullets and boots instead of buying burst fire?Boots are always mandatory and slowing bullets is just a good tier 2 item.
impostor LASH was BTFO
>>499981010>Line of sight is 75%Except for all those heroes that ignore it like the stone spic and hag
BBGN1BBGN1BBGN1BBGN1Inhouse up.No more duplicate hero bullshit this game is broken enough as it is to have two kelvin abusers on the same team.
>>499981008kek
>>499981102those are the two specific targeted aoes that calculate around ground. the explosion on geist is fucking huge it could be shorter for more jumping counterplay
>Duplicate hero memes>Lash on my team is complete ass with him, does literally nothing>The guy who always plays Lash decides to play dynamo for the first time, does absolutely nothing with himJust so cool.
>>499980978
>>499979074cover is your friend, especially early on in lane where you don't have any of her common counter play items.
>Meppz yells at me last game for my lack of securing souls, bad wall usage, ect.>This game I deny many times, beat him in-lane, and achieve positive KDThank You Meppz, I appreciate you.
So meppz just plays badly every inhouse and screeches at everyone?That's his gameplay?
>>499979062I agree it was more fun expect for Haze Honestly revert all changes back and leave her ult changes and I think we are good
>>499981384kys soul you got fucking carried t. not meppz
>>499981392Yes, unless he's on Lash and hunting me for the entire game, then he's happy
>>499980337Haze is fine, for once she might be balanced finally, very strictly B tier.The only real grief pick right now is Yamato, all the other badly performing heroes got omega hard buffed and yamato who was right there with those got indirectly nerfed because valves incompetent.
BBGN1BBGN1BBGN1BBGN1NEED 3 FOR INHOUSE
>Str8 SLORKIN' my shit>Before anyone hit the ground, I was just shooting my shotgun>They're at half because I'm hitting them and minions at the same time>Press 2, 1, GGI fuckin love this little bastard, unfinished and all
>>499981735I'll be there in 20-ish minutes
I don't get what they're doing for with Holliday. It seems like the only real idea they had with her is her barrels but the rest of her abilities is random bullshit. She makes bouncepads which I guess is suppose to synergize with barrels for trickshots or whatever but then she has some random passive that makes her headshot deal a lot of damage and batrider's ultimate cause ???? Like, what purpose is that suppose to serve than some generically good disable ult she has zero inherent tankyness to reliably initiate fights and doesn't like drag people along an aoe like batrider or whatever.
why the fuck i always read about how meppz scream in vc at someone but when he is on my team he is chill and relaxed
>>499981935he communicates thats too much for some autists
>>499981935He is chill and relaxed when he's winning
>>499981994this, he communicates thats too much for some autists
Mirage feels very strong. I am not topping the leaderboards but my impact is massive.
>>499981918Barrels and bounce pads are fundamentally the hero, they work amazingly well and have a ton of combos and tricks and skill ceiling.Then they fucked up and gave her a random last second headshot ability that will never be balanced correctly and her ult that no longer synergizes with her kit doesn't make sense with her current kit.Literally if you straight up removed the current 3 and made it a big bullet that bounces off walls she would be 10x more fun AND would work with barrels AND would work with ult.
>>499980375>toxic bullets instead of decay + healbane which would've completely shut him down You deserve it
>>499981918wow you figured out why yoshi/icefrog was asking in discord what you like about holliday they dont find her fun clearly
gun ivy is kinda better now but melee build is still more fun
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>>499981089>boots are always mandatorynot really on haze unless your roaming (which you were to your credit), in which case>slowing bullets9 times out of ten, going for a kinetic dash would be a better use of your souls. it's pretty good early on haze (just doesn't get built a lot since she's pretty choked for gun slots).
>>499981918>>499982159Why does every retard here say that her 3 doesn't fit? Is it aimlets coping again that their cowgirl waifu isn't braindead easy?
>>499982534>Barrels work with jump pad>Jump pad works with ult>All 3 make a clear, high mobility, high burst jump in mayhem cowboy hero>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then has a random headshot ability that does not function with ult whatsoever, does nothing with barrels and barely allows some mild advantage with bounce padsAre you genuinely retarded?>aimlets coping again that their cowgirl waifu isn't braindead easyPost a webm of you doing barrel combos and shooting air barrels with pin point accuracy.
>>499982159>and her ult that no longer synergizes with her kitWait she had a different ultimate before the batrider one?
I just hope meppz loses again. It would be pretty funny
>>499982707Her kit before allowed her to shoot backwards so she could barrel and shoot people while ulted.
>>499982748he's not in. vindictatranny is, so almost guaranteed painful loss.
kill tripfags with fire
>>499982815>>499982915I only joined so you guys could actually fill and playHappy to go back to playing ranked
INHOUSE IS DEAD AS FUCKWM510WM510WM510WM510HERO LABS PARTY
>>499983013wait 10 minutes for me:((((
>>499983051nigger
>>499982145Mirage has a very strong kit, but the core problem of why he's not popular is that he's boring to play.
>>499983013code says it's invalid
>>499983013>>499983138>>499983051GAME FUCKED UPWBBV6WBBV6WBBV6WBBV6WBBV6ACTUAL CODE
>>499981832I'm a bit disappointed he's so weapon reliant honestly. I dont like any of the shooter heroes in this game.
>people found how how broken slork is and everyone is now ult focusing meit's over....
>>499983013>>499983164saga my wife.....
>>4999831641 SLOT LEFT FOR HERO LABSWBBV6WBBV6WBBV6
who the fuck invited the tranny
>>499978647calico needs to never be added to the game though
>>499983547She will be added and you will like being silenced
>>499982145He's not flashy and he's not a team wiper who get multi kills and feel like a raid boss. However, he is a strong duelist and compliment that with his ult, he simply gives a shit load of map control/presence for your team. In a way, he is like wraith, but more difficult to play, but imo, has higher ceiling
>>499983304match id so i can watch?
>>499983304>"internal error"NICEGAMEYOSHIT
>WELL WARDED
>>499979335No plan survives contact with internet schizos.
>bebop can lose hundreds of damage on death once again making a bomb focused build unviable>meanwhile George & Floyd as well as Uncle Grandpa can keep their perma stackswhat a bunch of faggota
>>499984954Bomb build has literally never been good. Stop trying to make it work and stop complaining when it gets worse.
>>499984954>George & FloydDont call them that no matter how hilarious it is
>>499984954lmao brother anything over phantom people would buy debuff remover so you are actually like griefing the game when you build that bomb build especially when you have an abrams on the team
>>499945369when Mo and Krill or Abrams is strong, they still have to be physically present in you and your team's sphere of influencestop coping just because Vindicta is a magnet for degenerates, game would be infinitely better without snipers in it
>>499985103>>499985273Bomb build was viable, you stick them early and then stick yourself lategame, not a tough concept to grasp
>>499985103If it was never good, then why nerf it to a point where you're literally throwing by using them at all?
inhouse is dead or in progress?
>>499945353>three allies using metal skinLiterally never happens, edited clip, faked, AI generated
>>499985103>>499985273if bomb build no good then explain why nerf bomb build to do more like
>>499985592Because shit players doesn't realize debuff remover is in the game I haven't seen any bomb bebop do well in my games ever
>>499985592Because bad players keep building bomb and griefing their team.
Yamato rescue beam for engagements?
>>499982370>not really on hazeIt's always mandatory to deal with slows. That's just how the game is. >9 times out of ten, going for a kinetic dash would be a better use of your souls.Eh. Slowing bullets just has really good value that's always present and importantly it builds into silencer
>>499985776You really expect anyone to believe they're balancing the game for low ranks? Either stop pretending to be retarded or stop being retarded.
>>499985970they do consider low rank players and tell me have you seen a bomb bebop carry you like i said i play phantom+ low ascendant games and i have never seen a bomb bebop go off before and its a troll build because it forces the enemy to buy a strong item they might not have built if you didnt go that buildi actually had a bomb bebop on my team as abrams it's actually a massive grief
>>499981293>pushing base guardians>haze appears out of nowhere and presses 4>by the time i reach "cover" i'm at 10 HP
>>499966942Yeah that's generally my understanding too, funnelling big items onto a leech with good scaling like infernus or Haze seems like the optimal way to get wins, while keeping some money on semi-carry ish characters like assassins (wraith) or burst with cc (lash). Though that usually leaves a large amount of the roster scrounging up cheap tank items and low offense to offset built in cc or some shit
>>499986337I'm phantom and I've won playing bomb bebop multiple times. Don't know why it's so crazy to believe that a flying fucking 2k damage nuke can't win games
>>499986337I often went at around 100-150 stacks by 40 minutes and it was pretty signifiant. Now it still doesn't explain the logic behind your claim of "This build is griefing your team and is horrible so we should nerf it"
>>499982169>Throw decay>enemy becomes a bitch who kites around a truck from you since 3rd person>it wears off and they fight againi wanna stop their healing whenever I exist near them not give them a 10 second breather
>>499986793>Get kites around a truck for a whole fucking 10 secAnon.......
>>499986793does torment pulse + healbane work?
>>499986957It does, but without decay healbane is easily negated by healing booster which if they're going for a lifesteal build they're going to buy it.
>>499980375>Why can't a utility character that is a early/mid game bully 1v1 a true carry characterAnon.....
>>499980375Why the fuck would it be additive
>>499987063yeah decay kinda feels bad because of the super long CD, if you mis-time it then infernus is full healing. I fucking hate infernus he's so braindead and requires 10000x more effort to stop. I think he's worse than shiv because he's way safer at farming
>>499986693if you cant understand how making a team go debuff remover can grief your team idk what to tell you imagine you have an abrams on your team they are forced to buy superior duration for his ulti and shoulder charge>>499986580if you won games with it cool whats your actually win rate with it because all of them i have seen just end up being a bot to their team
>>499987063on the topic of lifesteal, is there ever any reason not to buy the corresponding lifestyle type of whatever build you're going? unless you're going in on healing with health nova and rescue beam, i guess
>>499987606healbane can be just as good as lifesteal
100% hero labs winrate stack
i got fucking crash in patron pit is there still lobby
>>499987807start it up again
>>499987606characters who are fast/slippery enough can probably get away with buying fortitude instead and just using the regenerating health while saving their slots for other stuff
>>499987807It JUST ended.We had like a 2 minute window but since you crashed people left, it's done.
>>499979074Haze press 4 to win playstyle is probably a bit too scummy for the game, considering that all the other bullshit in the game is rather honest (except for the wraith invis build)
>>499987927its joever but if was fun doe, slork is too busted what the fuck icefraud was thinking
SLORK HAS COUNTERPLAY>SLORK HAS COUNTERPLAYSLORK HAS COUNTERPLAY>SLORK HAS COUNTERPLAYtldr: buy metal skin and pop it when that gorilla black nigger starts running at you. he's still incredibly cancer so keep that in mind.
0TS78inhouse maybe?
>Ricochet>Toxic Bullets>InhibitorThis shit is so beautiful on Mirage, bros. As long as I'm hitting something, teamfights are just hard tilted in our favor.
>>499988018looks like the counterplay is getting carried the fuck out
>>499987606If you need the slot for more damage or actives. Killing someone faster is better than doing last man standing contest with them, and you can get by with Healbane because of the on-kill heal it gives you without speccing hard into lifesteal.
>>499851193 (me)I found out his ult exists and achieved slorkgularity.>low hp? wait in ult 3 seconds>enemy too scared to come out? ult on his part of the map
>>499988141dude was 14/2 at one point, before I bought metal skin and suggested everyone else to atleast stack up on bullet resist.
>>499988018Actually fucking shameless that the Slork player was complaining about bad design.
>>499988073>no siphon bulletsYou become a gigatank on Mirage with it
I can't play gun lash, I just want to hop and stomp. What are your best hop and stomp builds anons
>>499988018Slork issue.Holliday tried metal skin against me but didn't realize that i heal back really fast and that my 1 lasts longer than it
>lane against Haze and Wraith>buy metal skin at 7k>game becomes playable
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>>499988406icbm lash from necros
>>499988273Honestly once I got leech slork wasn't shit.Valve is fucking cooked making that item give cd reduction.
So, Magician just sucks right? "Gun" is a slow as fuck projectile, so that's kind of unusable
>>4999884864 MORE NEEDED JOIN JOIN JOIN0TS78>>499988902He's the only "balanced" new hero.
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>>499988902Magician is INCREDIBLY fucking busted people just cannot play/build him correctly, he's probably the biggest lane bully in the game bar none.Go siphon bullets
i wish inviting people to join your party/lobby allowed you to send a little message. i'd invite more normies if that was the case.
>>499988902I just played him.Having a teleport target that you can swap with is kind of cool since you can use it to back up, then continue to fire on whoever is chasing you and fully upgraded it copies your nuke as well.Hex is kind of unusable in team fights because you can target your team-mates(why?).Swap is always good and combined with teleport, it allows you to swap someone into yoru team and then jump back so basically nullyfing the only risk to Paradoxes ult.
>>499987518So what you're saying then is that we should also nerf vindicta and talon because people buy knockdown to shut them off, but if people buy knockdown, that's griefing against seven, haze and other characters that can be stunned off their ults.We should also nerf haze's ult because that makes people buy metal skin and that griefs your team because if they have metal skin, then you can't shoot at them.That logic is so stupid, I can't even begin to imagine how did you managed to reach this conclusion other than trying to say you're right.
>>499988902that's what hero labs is supposed to be for fixing, they aren't released yet for a reason and he doesn't even have his own ultthat said he's stupid busted, he would even be good just off the hex though, there's no way they let a hard disable that long stick around when people have bitched them out for less
>>499988360Ohh yeah, I'll build that next time. Migh get it before Inbib depending on the game.Thanks!
>>499989256magician should get zed ult that also gives him another teleport spot.
>>499989256Maybe if they actually did jackshit.Fucking holliday bounce pad straight up doesn't work and calico can't go melee because she'll vibrate into walls.There's no fucking way they can't fix that in 2 days.
>>499989418holliday bounce pad is such good thing for lash, especially when holliday is an enemy so i use it to jump on her stupid ass geg
0TS780TS781 more for inhouse
0TS780TS780TS78JUST TWO MORE NIGGAS NEEDED THEN WE BALL.
can I have ivy
>>499989589dead internet theory is real
I am *this* close to inviting the trip user to the lobby if two more people don't join.0TS780TS780TS78please please please don't make me do this, dlg.
>>499990180let me piss then ill ready up
>>499990180does dup heroes work yet?
FUCKING SIT NIGGERS
i'd play but i dont want solo lane so imma spectate
>>499990362Kinda
>>499990362sadly not since yoshi is a lazy sheboon with hiv.
>>499990362yes but it's mad unbalanced as fuck and the person who loads in first has to dc and reconnect
>>499990180code dont work
>new matchmaking>takes like 15 minutes to find games with my friends now because we're 'wide skill level' since they don't play nearly as much>get the same groups of people multiple times on the same fucking teamJUST FUCKING REVERT THE MATCHMAKINGI WOULD RATHER HAVE STOMPS AND THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME THAN BEING STUCK WITH THE SAME SHITTY GEIST OR GREY TALON THAT MAKES THE SAME SHITTY PLAYS OVER AND OVER AGAIN YOU FUCKING MONGS
>>499990783no fuck you. wait for the release if you and your normoid friends want to fuck up my games
nerfs schmerfs
They need to do something to incentivize some rooftop combatmaybe throw a couple of creep camps up there
>bebop pauses>I need a smoke quick XD>name is big tokerWe really need to euthanize these cunts from society.
>bebop 0/0/1 at 18 minutesthis guys gotta be trolling right?
my girlfriend just left me for a bebop spammer
>>499991976they should get rid of the electricity poles, too
what's the inhouse match id? id like to spectate
>>4999925941234567890
>>49999259425047174
>Eternus 1>People still don't buy armour, defensive items or anti-heal
i think half of sapphire doesnt have keys bound to abilities
spirit or gun GT?
>>499991165go play in ranked shitskin they made a mode just for you
Absolutely fucking insane that this company hard buffed mirage while nerfing yamato on the same patch.
LMAO my team trusted me on my call gj
>another loss for meppz
>>499992885yes. Spirit gives base damage, not +%. just sharpshooter and rapid shooter with some spirit items and you're already dealing 2-300 a shot.
another inhouse completed. amber won.
resident complainer meppz
>>499992998nice call, can't believe how fast that went down honestly
3 more0TS78
>>499993043im drunk lets run it
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>>499992998looking at the map and seeing both lash and dynamo far away on yellow enlightened me to trust your call. thanks bro.
>>499993043meppz.. the force 0 agent
>>499993043holy shit impv. reach is so good on Mikus turrets it's like nobody thinks about getting hit by these little bastards from ten miles away.
It's actually insane how much meppz complains while maining the most carried hero in the game (lash).But I guess it's to be expected.
>>499993175Lmao nah yall made it possible could have easily not trust it
solo laning is such a miserable fucking experience it's just waiting for the duo lane to come over and help you or fuck you over because unless your mcginnis your not taking a tower by yourself
time to vindicta game.
>>499993291megabloks mmr
>>499992158why yes just feed the enemy goy
>>499992158That's what you get when you get punished so hard for dying, you just run away as soon as your abilities are on cooldown.
Cyruktez can you give me bebop:DDD
Cyruktez its so fuckking bad
Cryuktez is trying his best
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>>499993381megabloks are peak tho
>>499993454sure bb>>499993490nothing will please you huh
Cyruktez thank you
>>499993528a five year old could do better
SIT YOU FUCKING NEGROS
>>499992958Only shitskins and nigs feel the need to gang up
Almost every team I had today in inhouses had someone who was either new to the character or just complete ass with them even though they're playing a character who is dependent on being a high impact team fighter.Paradox with no kills 7 deaths, never had any good swaps or was in team fights to provide wallsVindicta that did literally nothingBebop that was seemingly farming all game and hardly ever in team fights, when he was missed every hookJust so fucking sick of this shit. So sick of playing with people who are ass at characters who are only good if they land their skill shots. Like if i'm just gonna keep getting teams like this then there is literally no reason for me to not just play normal matches instead.
>>499993604>nothing will please you huhyou do nothing to please retard
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first time ivy pls no bully.
cyruktez with the default bebop build and nothing on cooldown watching his teammates die
>>499993741go cry meppz and learn a character that isn't lash
>>499993741i think you're better off playing ranked for your sake
>>499993742i ain't sucking your dick bro
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>>499993741>t. meppz
>>499993741>t. wasnt on my team all day
>>499993865you should cause thats all you're good for
>>499993794sorry the brool party was already over when i got there
>>499993794>>499993490i could fix him.
>>499993109Beautiful
>>499993741im fried on the other team bro quit bellyaching
>>499993741You need to realize that inhouses literally don't matter and, if anything, less sweaty than regular matches because they don't affect the rank.
DINO OR WOWZER PLEASE JOIN
>>499993850I've played lash like twice the last 3 days of inhouses I was in>>499993863I've literally avoided ranked all week because i've played inhouses almost every day and there's just nothing fun about getting ass teammates and honestly even when I win it's just like, you're literally playing against actual shitters so can you really say your win had much meaning? There unironically needs to be a rank requirement for this or something. Inhouses are fun in theory since people can organize and play and learn and get better instead of having to deal with the shitty matchmaking system but if half the people that are in the custom games are literal wood mmr players then what's the point?
>>499993741doesn't seems to stop the actually good ih players from carrying their team like scruffy, woohoo, saga or celialso it's just a casual inhouse come on it doesn't matter
>>499993741here's a little reality check meepz:you are nearly good as you fucking think.
>carrying in Oracle matchesI'll be out of mud mmr soon
>>499994170That doesn't disprove anything I said. When you get shitters who don't know how to play their character, have complete lack of game sense to know where to go without being directly told then you're just at a fucking forced loss.
>>499994271Just tell them what to doSome of us don't have 4000 hours in Dota
tripniggers fuck off forever
>>499994583Actually they're going to stay and you're going to waste your time being a big pissy baby about it.Forever.
isn't there a plugin that anonymizes tripfags
The topic reminded me of this moment earlier today too>Abrams on the enemy team>Rapes and murders everyone on my team, they never buy any counters>Abrams on my team>Webm related
the triptranny is awake
>>499994271This is the problem with all multiplayer games yes
>>499994819there is but the bitch doesn't use it
>>499994338I've seen guys with 4000 hours in Dota who don't have a fucking clue how to play Dota.Low MMR unranked is filled with people who have thousands of wins.
What's the inhouse match ID? I want to spectate while my torrents seed.
Think I might be an infernus main
I keep getting matched with Emissaries as Archon and I'm thinking I'm going to get demoted next time it resets, there's no Emissary up there.
>>499991976Mostly just >>499992227You can't figh ton the roofs because sometimes you randomly slip off or take damage
>>499995227the damage isn't random, it happens if you go to the highest roofs because they don't want people to camp the skyboxwould be interesting to see what happens if they're removed though
>>499995176gonna drag you down to my level, join me in Ritualist bitch
who mo and krill chad herejust focused a haze down so hard she told us to report her whole team, she had unstoppable but i was too smart and still killed her over and over with the lockdown lmaoooo
>>499993741calm down you lost the game off of macro
If Krill's ult requires you to be up close to stun someone, then it should cancel if someone gets pulled away from it
>>499995464I wonder how effective george & floyd'q s disarm would be if you give him improved cooldown and echo shard and focus on preventing that haze bitch from ever playing the game.
>>49999502525052014
>>499996046>george & floyd lol
>>499996046Anon, I'm pretty sure disarm doesn't affe t her ult. It hurt infernus and mirage more but those characters are more dangerous and powerful than haze anyway
>>499995951You shouldn't be able to move someone away from his ult in the first place.
>>499996207Thank-you fren
>>499996276Oh no, she presses 4, well I'll be damned, my combo is solely dedicated to fuck that bitch up.
>>499996046meh. doesn't do jack for her ult or knife. If you want total cc against them just buy knockdown and curse.
the haze voice pitch change just makes her sound transgender
>>499996681Well the ult can and will be shut down by mo's own ult. As for the knife, well if the bitch can't shoot, it doesn't do anything.
>>499997108her knife stun lasts longer than the disarm lol
>>499997246Yeah but then you just echo shard and disarm her again lmao
>>499995325It isn't random, but it is unmarked; there's no way to tell if an area is 'allowed' or not
>>499993741i go out of my way to play meme builds and characters i don't know in the inhouses to experiment, stop being a lardass
Draft when?Third game in a row of vindicta grey talon on same team; autolosing a third of my matches to team select is cancer
yeah next time im just scrambling till cyruk isnt on my team
average post-nerf kelvin game
>>499997587Actually insane they haven't dropped a patch this balance is atrocious.
lmao team was worried for no reason
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>>499997447consider people don't want to waste 40+ mins of their time for you to selfishly experiment and handwave it away with an excuse that hasn't been valid since counterstrike 1.6
>aimbot vindicta has a complete stranglehold on the match>cant end it because we have a ginnis nuking all the creep wavesLET ME OUT OF THIS HELL
>amber communicates more>winsit was still pretty even up until the second midboss. seven and vindicta getting close to mid and staggering probably wasn't the last straw, but it was definitely the nail in the coffin
>>499997708it was actually winnable even 5v7 i just got too cocky broolingt. lash
>>499997786if you want to sweat go to the sweat modes fag
>>499997835i keep getting put on the team with 5 mutes who dont respond to comms pay 5 fucking dollars for a mic you bums
>>499997786You are already "wasitng" time by joining matches that do not affect your ranking. If you want to play ranked, then why don't you just do it?
watching wraith mag dump into lash's brains when he was looking for Yamato at the end there was funny
yeah im thinking mo is busted lmao this shit is ridiculous he didnt even need buffs but now he's legitimately a terror
>>499997740>Go in >Get cursed>Double seven stunned>Kelvin domed>Silenced>Warden trapped>Ivy stunned>Ivy silenced>Double knocked downI wasn't worried I was fucking pissed goddamn, I was stunned for like 6 seconds straight into a curse every fight through debuff reducer.I had to sweat and go debuff remover unstoppable armor healing booster just to survive.>>499997775Here.
>>499997935if you were the vindicta, when your comms went on i didn't hear anything. might just be a spectator bug, not sure
>>499994194lmao no reason for you not to at least hit phantom since vindicta is 100% broken
>>499997883our lanes were pushed 3 feet into our ass the entire game while our kelvin just followed peoples dots around on the map, we had 0 win condition
>>499998019you saying he needs more buffs t. ice frog
>>499996423Cannot confirm or deny if that's a better option, but they should pick one, I don't care. Either way, he shouldn't be able to keep dealing damage if, you know, the target isn't even being hit by Mo anymore. And yes, I tested it, still still does full damage even when the enemy it pulled away. Had to make sure that's how it worked.
>>499997435Technically it is, it's the roofs with the antennas on them, those are the ones damaging you.
>>499998065actually disgusting how Warden got shit on all match and still wins teamfights while behind for no fucking discernible reason and jumps back into the game
>>499998065ngl but this wasnt my strongest game but iwill still try the kevlar phantom strike build on lady hag again tho
>>499998070no i was the seven i think i heard our lash talk once or twice but everyone else silent
>>499998065I keep seeing "Ret Paladin" and think that it's "Rat Paladin" and frankly I think that'd be better
>>499998065wraith did more ratting then miku????
>>499998314soul is the dumbest person on earth
>>499998314Should have spec'd into Miku Gunnis
>>499998314Wraith is unironically better at ratting than Miku is.
>>499998065like HOW do you get only 6800 healing on kelvin, you get that in a single ult
>>499998065I didn't even know you can have a bar this small
>>499998065i'm sorry about my performance tonight bros
>>499997932if you wanna fuck around go fuck around with your normie friends or in the sandbox>>499997960if you play competitive games for zoomer "gold star" achievement/rank slop sure, but if you play competitive games for the competition then people fucking around ruins it. nobody expects inhouses to be "have-to-play-the-best-match-of-your-life" sweats but you should at least play like you're using your hands on the keyboard instead of playing with your feet because "le experiment XDD".and before you respond with some dumbass shit, why is your conception of what inhouses should be more valid than mine?
>winning most of the game>lose anywaymy rank is going to be so low next week...
Holy shit I'm torment POOOOOLSING
>Bullying shitters in inhousesHalf the charm of inhouses is the complete mixed bag of skill levels. All that matters is that they're trying to win and not just hard/soft inting.I remember when EU /lolg/ inhouses were at their best, back when the legitimately good players would see it as a challenge to carry the resident shitters and joke around with them. Treat them like training weights. You alienate the newer/less-skilled players and you either kill inhouses or turn them into ranked games without the rank.
>>499997935I live with my parents so I don't like using voice chat.
>>499998407He unironically used the ult like Miku's wall. I respect that
>>499998431one (1) basic magazine
>>499998497the actual good players don't play anymore
>>499998497if the shitter is buying the default build going 0-10 and actively doing nothing for the team they should get bullied
>>499998431was it monster rounds?
>>499998487spectator here. you spent the whole match crying about being cc locked and needing emotional support
>>499998596kek
>>499998487crazy part is that was only 3 power slashes
>>499998541
>>499998596Don't forget that it took him a solid 10 minutes to buy Unstoppable after crying about said CC.
>>499998497You can't carry in this game. You'd literally have to be 15k more souls than their highest player to solo carry but if the rest of your team is lacking, you are not gonna have that much more souls
>>499998065I rushed Impv. mystic reach and Rapid recharge to test a turret build. I think I probably should've weaved it with some sustain items instead, but I'm pretty sure I can almost ignore bullet damage in leiu of spirit items.Dropping three turrets basically makes you unapproachable, adding escalating Exposure means they're getting huge vuln stacks and Mystic slow makes it harder to escape.What I'm not sure of is placing turrets, mystic reach means I can toss that shit pretty far, but in many cases I think I just had bad placement and lost kill opportunities because of it.>>499998431>>499998541IDK, I never felt like I was lacking damage. >>499998387Difference of like 222 objective damage is fine lol.
meepz quickly approaching being the most unliked person in the inhouses is a interesting arc, considering he plays only 1 hero (mildly) competent, glad I missed those games, wew.
>>499944631I pray that whatver they do to this hero in the coming months they keep that in
>>499998387lmao soul gets a bad rep he isnt as bad as you niggas make it out to be
>>499998853he is
>>499998596That Yamato is VERY fragile. He's done it before.
>>499998741>but I'm pretty sure I can almost ignore bullet damage in leiu of spirit items.you'll still want some utility ones like kinetic dash/soul shredder/slowing bullets just to not waste the slots. (and hunter's aura obviously)
>>499998497some inhouse matches i do good and some i just fall hard idk what it is sorry for my kelvin and bebop games tonight
>>499998596Yes.>>499998065>I wasn't worried I was fucking pissed goddamnIt's quite gay to get hard cced for 20 aeons as soon as you're within 3 screens of the enemy team.>>499998712Unstoppable always comes after debuff remover here, otherwise you're just forced to waste unstoppable to avoid the cc just to be able to ult and then you have to run out like a rat at 1 hp.There was a warden/vindicta/lash/seven, fights were not quick.Also it infinitely cucks the seven and it was really funny to remove the load.
>>499998979I never saw you do good desu
>>499998206>Warden got shit on all match fuck off i wasn't THAT bad
>>499999015you bought it 2 minutes before the game ended and removed a single stun lol
>you suck>no YOU suck>nuh uh YOU suck morewho doesn't suck?
>>499998958>kinetic dashThat's an interesting idea. I usually rely on majestic leap for hopping lanes and think of kinetic dash as a ganker's item, but I guess I could forgo extra Stamina and get bonus bullet damage>soul shredder/slowing bulletProbably.>hunter's auraGod I'm stupid and misread this, I thought the effect was only tripled if you were alone, not if the enemy is alone.This will probably help me rat harder.Thanks.
>>499998979dude stop hahhahhaha>>499999127you were one of the better players on your team, had a few scares with you
>>499999194me
>>499999197actually I"M stupid and typed up HUNTER'S aura instead of HEROIC aura
>>499998497lolg inhouses are fucking DOGSHIT they should never be held as a standard of anything they're literally just regular games and they've always been.Dota 2 inhouses circa 2012-2014 is what we should strive to not that soulless garbage
Knockdown is my favorite item in the game.Any problem you have is solved with the BONK.
>>499998719That's fair, it definitely is a lot harder to solo carry due to the faster pace and fewer options for wave manipulation. It just seems that after every inhouse, and even during, people spend ages bitching about bad players when the skill level mix is half the fun in the first place. That inevitably leads to people not wanting to join and then the interest either fizzles or it just becomes an "old boys club" and cliquey.>>499999297/lolg/ inhouses are shit now, but EU specifically (NA was always shit) was great 5 or so years ago, in the era of Chen chain feeding Rift Herald and the great Nunufag vs Brewbaccas mid lane extravaganza.
>>499999297the Dota 2 inhouses of today are sadhalf the retards will rage quit and its always the same dudes
>>4999992974 - 5 people would probably need to be kicked almost every time because they're morale killers / 1 tricks. There's a solid two handful or so people to get good games and I think that's possible.
https://youtu.be/ahFI0a4ssCsI hope somebody is recording these inhouses, the replays aren't forever
Cyru you're doing great buddy
>>499999186I used it several times tho, removed an echo sharded seven stun to kill him, then another one later, then another one on mid boss where I also used unstoppable to parry the buff.Actually why are you on my dick nigger what's wrong with you.
>>499999476there's no point only a few people talk
>>499999297dota 2 inhouses back then were all the good players stacking one team because that's Le FuNnEh and getting pissy if everybody else made the host use the auto-balance to make the teams balanced until inhouses died because the good players kept insisting on stacking one team every time.
Can spectators even hear voice chat? I remember them being unable to
>>499999476Impossible with you-know-who dropping the n bomb every other failed gank.
>>499999749Unless it was changed recently spectators can, but replay watchers can't.
>>499999752me?
>>499999749i could hear both teams
>>499999749They can only hear one team at a time, sadly.
Before you complain about duplicate heroes being borked remember that literally nobody (including you) reported it on the forums
>>500000019i expect icefraud to read 4chan /dlg/
>>500000019it literally sort-of worked today, we had 2 kelvins and 2 lash game
>>499999725lmao good thing that doesn't happen at least when i join most of the time the matches when we get celi big hat scruffy meppz woohoo dino billy saga are some of the best matches >>500000118they do
My mirage for this patch is swift striker sharpshooter burst fire Knockdown because fuck snipers
>>499999850>but replay watchers can't.Why though? Half-Life, a game that came out in 1998 and uses the same engine (people who shit on bethesda for using gamebryo will deny this btw) saved the voice chat in demos
>>499999596People will loosen up, in time.>>499999749There's an option to keybind voice chat both teams and I assume spectators can hear that one but it's rare.They should really>Increase spectator count>Allow option for full voice chat>Add text chat to pre pick>Stop fucking scrambling spectators in/out of the spectator slot what the fuck
>>499998917>>499998853I'm somewhat below the mean for all Deadlock players I think.Also got this aura that drives certain people nuts, I consider it a sort of super power.
>>500000385https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/new-client-feature-suggestions.90/
>>499998085I'm 20-4 todayWe'll see how far I get
>>500000442is this the rank below wood mmr?
>>500000504I posted these 2 weeks ago.These hacks don't give a shit about the forums anymore, why do you think the patches are so fucking bad nowadays?
>>499999519thanks i'm trying to get better but think i'll just stick to my trench games since i get blasted in the inhouse
>>500000216>no slowing hex
>>500000654It's 4/10.
>>500000675And i was afraid i got shadowbanned
>>500000385>People will loosen up, in timenot with niggerfaggots like >>499993741
rank chart listbelow archon - pisslow mmrarchon - wood mmroracle - wood mmr 2phantom - the trenchesascended - start of VHS but still not thereeternus - vhs
>>500000675With all the spamming rusniggers, could you really blame them for ignoring the forums?
>>499999297D2g inhouses with people trying hard on goofy builds and allchat voice was pure sovl
>>500000885Then fucking ban the rusniggers goddamn.People have asked this for 14 years.
>>500000854i find it funny we have posts like this when we haven't even had more than 1 update on rank
>>499999749If you keybind party chat voice, you can talk to both teams at same time as a spectator.And in same manner you can talk to enemy team when you are actively playingIts indicated by a green speaker icon next to your character portraitCaptcha vsgay
>>500000939Speaking of goofy builds where the FUCK are our fucking new items?It's been months.
>>500000949>>500000885Russsoid ziggers asking for unbans in bug section of the forums is prime example for why we need region lock.>We dindu nothing blyat, isa bug
>>499998143You clearly haven't played Vindicta. Those are a loose recommendation of roofs to avoid at best.
>>500000854>start of VHS but still not thereIf you mean VHS like Dota matches, every match here may as well be pisslow.
>>500000939I think the problem is just deadlock sucks for goofy builds. There aren't enough characters, a lot of them are annoying as fuck to fight like mcginnis, kelvin, mo, etc. Also most item are just stat differences or an active that debuffs people. Aside from the 2 builds of viscous ball or ivy thomp builds there is no actual stuff thats funny in this game.
>>499998019GOT ANOTHER W before ranked ended for the night. that's 7/8 wins with mo and krill after not playing him for 2 months kek
>>500001301>after not playing him for 2 months kekI mean playing doesn't really matter after he got the biggest buff in the history of the game so farHe's basically invincible now
>>500000118This but unironically. If your devs don't read my forum I'm sure as hell not making an account to post on yours.>>500000001>>500000000>>499999999
>>500001298The only good shit is magic carpet and rescue beam, nothing even comes close.
>>500001430>>500000000 (Cross-thread)no way
>>500001430fucking tohou autists goddamn
>>500001430>>500001518chiruno the strongest
>>499998143>>500001257there's only like 4 roof heights, it's the top one, it's very easy to tell which ones damage youthe damage is minimal tho, you can sit there for 10 seconds no problem unless you're 1shot
https://streamable.com/ykbmqlpretty fun games today overall
>>500001153They unironically stopped paying attention to forum
>>500001153>>500002203I think they're soley looking at tweets and youtube video feedback
>>500002196>dudes running at you like zombies with no anti heallmao
I FUCKING HATE MIRAGE.
>>500002502Mirage is extremely overtuned, I have no fucking clue why they buffed him and mo n krill when they were already insanely strong.Actually>>500002304It makes sense now why these patches are so fucking bad.
>>500002394was a very looney tunes fight
>>500002558>>500002304>>500002203Yoshi replied to my forum post about Vindicta and the very next patch Vindicta got buffs addressing all of my complaints
>>500002502Downplaying apes here were calling me boosted and retarded for complaining about mirage, to the point that some dense ass motherfucker even said with a straight face that buying the right items for situations isn't a skill.
>>500002770>This is the kind of player they're still listening toAt last I truly see
>>499978118Man literally all you had to do was dash to the right to enter the tunnel and you'd live and probably kill seven here>>500002196I don't understand why you're still walking up to him when he's at 60% hp and healing a shitton and shooting straight at you like he's suddenly gonna get nuked for 1.5k hp in a microsecond from you shooting at him.Just surviving, stealthing and then darting the seven as he runs and the other 2 chased them would've won the fight.
>>500002770might be time for me to write my abrams buffs list that is needed by next patchabrams chads we must cry for buffs like everyone else only way we will get it
>MnK gets 100 HP heal on 9 sec cd in early lane phase>can stay underground majority of the match lategame if need be plus use other gay actives to stay aliveThis has to be fucking gayest character yet redditors will pay no heed as they chant “muh MOOOOOO AND KRILLLLL” like this is god’s gift to valve gamingBut god forbid seven be decent, he must be gutted because the redditor doesn’t know how to move out of the ball
remember to leave feedback saying they should change fathom's name back to slork
>>500003067I cried for buffs and they nerfed Yamato.Actually now that I think about if these fucking devs listened to my original suggestions all the way back in like april they wouldn't have needed to do like 12 yamato buffs back to back and then hard nerf her out of nowhere.
>>500003296just stun mo hes more vulnerable than vindicta against knockdown
>>500003296that's nice bro *combos u*
>>500003067I don't think you're gunna get it
>>500003364Yes let me mow down 3000 hp in 0.9 seconds
>>500003498abrams players are truly elite after every nerf our win rates goes higher
>>500003498It's actually disgusting how many heroes they fucking broke what the fuck is this patch.Fucking gut abrams.Fucking gut Mo.Fucking gut McginnisFucking gut Grey talon.Fucking gut Paradox.Fucking gut Warden.Fucking gut Mirage.Fucking gut Kelvin.Fucking gut Vindicta.
>>500003498these numbers are pulled from thin air and mean nothing
>>500003642>t. salty Shiv one trick that's about to go down 15 ranks
>>500003686t. valve employeeReminder the last time we got a glimpse at the disgusting pick and winrates enabled by their incompetent balancing they quickly shut down all match sharing.
>>500003498>45.6% wr seven that keeps going downOh no redditor bros??? How could this be?!
what rank is 2000 valve MMR?i've won like 20 games in a row and my average match MMR is up to that now but the fucking ranks don't update in real time.
>>500003935I'm in ~1800 games and the average player is Archon 6, so I'd guess high Oracle
>>500003898there is no possible way to get winrate data
So Paradox bomb is getting nerfed next patch, right?
>>500004098it would not be hard to write a python script to open the game, click the watch tab, enter every match ID starting at some random numver, and OCR each scoreboard are read which side has the word "Victory" on itI've written a similar script to auto swipe on Tinder just by clicking the XY coordinate of the like button every 0.5s
is paradox's bomb even op, just dodge out of the AOE lmao>but muh creep clearseven exists
>>500004453Wouldn't this take hours unless you were running it on about a thousand PCs?You'd also only get a snapshot. It would take an unreasonably long time to gather data on the tens of thousands of matches you need to get accurate winrates.
>>500004453>>500004534Sorry, I misread what you said - if you're just incrementing match IDs instead of looking at the watch tab, you're avoiding the snapshot problem, but it would still take ages.The watch tab shows 2000 matches and still nekoscore misses most matches. That means there are way more than 2000 simultaneous matches happening at any given moment.
>>500003642I hope they get rid of the weird pulse grenade build on Paradox. I hate all of those builds, Kudzu, Balls, Grenade, they're all stupid uninteractive huge AoEs that ignore the way the game is designed.Just replace the skill with something like Holliday's barrel honestly.
WHY THE FUCK TURRETS DONT WORK LIKE IN LOL WHY THEY NEVER FOCUS T HE HERO THAT ATTACKS YOU YOSHI YOU RETARD
>>500004690no
>>500004534All you have to do is take the screenshot and then send it to a processing queueManually simulating clicks in the game it'd probably take 5 seconds to get each screenshotSay it's more like 5-8 seconds, that's 15,000ish matches per day, per computerthe OCR is pretty quick you can say "cut out this corner of the screen and check it for the text "victory"" and then do the same image processing for the names and ranks and shitI have no idea if any of the trackers are doing this, but my point is there's plenty of ways to grab a few thousand matches every day and that's enough to be very statistically similar to the complete dataset after a few days
Howard Phillips Lashcraft edition>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2024-update.40951/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcLast Thread:>>499943868
>>500004896nice
>>500004896dummy
>>500004896Retard
>>500004896>>500004937God damnit my macro fucked up againOne minute.>>500004964I don't see YOU making the new thread
>>500004994>God damnit my macro fucked up againYou have 'post new general' script?
>>500004896funny!
>>500004896Smartest Lash abuser
Yeah yeah whatever>>500005067>>500005067>>500005067
>>500004870OCR isn't an issue, but loading the scoreboard takes several seconds.>that's 15,000ish matches per dayAccording to my estimate, we're averaging 340k matches per day. So you'd need about a dozen computers running this script 24/7 to get the majority of matches.
>>500005209You don't need majority bro you could get accurate sample at 15% probably less
>>500004735Fucking do it Yoshi. Placeable time bomb that slows and amps damage around it, then blows up after 5 seconds or whatever.
>>500001124>green speaker icon next to your character portraitOh that's what it is? Good to know
>>500003712Nah I was a shiv player and i switched to mole. I think the devs are too retarded to balance this game. They dont seem to be experimenting either since the changes arent even that weird they're just bad changes.
>>499951897Is this one or the white heard look from her protrait calicos final look?
>>500013779Neon Prime image as far as we're aware. The model is the final version, "Alpha" screechers be damned
