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it's fucking over edition

>About
Throne and Liberty is a PC and console MMORPG offering a mix of tab target and action combat with a shared emphasis on both PvP and PvE. The game features a seamless open world, adaptive weather systems, and a shapeshifting mechanic that lets players transform into sani for exploration and combat strategy. The game uses a free-to-play model with various microtransactions; cosmetics, convenience items, battle passes, and more. The Western publisher, AWS, claims to be aiming to avoid pay-to-win mechanics while enhancing player customization, choice, and experience.

>Builds
https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides
https://metabattle.com/tl/TL_Builds
https://throneandliberty.gameslantern.com/builds

>Database
https://tldb.info/

>Servers
NA East, Lottie; <vidya>
EU, Kazar; <Pettanko> pw 555444

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if you didn't get a bellandir weapon and sell it for 200k yet you're bricked just stop trying
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I'm going to miss all of you.
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are you done?
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are any of the builds from the op worth anything in pvp
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THANKS TALL-TINGER
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>knockback
>stun
>shock
>fear
>interrupt
>all of it during your skill casts/channels/animations
>all instant
I hate doing dungeons in this game so fucking much.
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>>500081590
You're quitting Maru? It was a good run, thanks for joining us, as rude as many of us were.
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>>500084228
maru was the rubyposter
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>>500081590
Right, the patrol manager told me that earlier
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>>500084246
O-Oh. So... who are you?
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>>500084873
that's kitsani
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>discord link in guild bio
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO LOOK IN THE DIRECTION OF THAT UNDEAD DEN
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pvp in this game makes 0 sense
i finally hit 3k and the experience is exactly the same
>cc'd to death
>blown up instantly from max range
>zoning doesn't really exist with all the insane movement skills
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>>500090209
while you were busy getting to 3k the whales already got to 4.5k. do you rikey?
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>>500090676
3770 is the current cap however
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>cc
>use trinket
>cc right away
>use cc removal skill
>wops it actually doesn't work vs this cc lol fucked
>cc
>nice the skill works against this
>another cc chain right away
>dead
>all from maximum range and done by weapons that hit way harder than anything melee
>b-but muh gs
>get oneshot by a bow user from across the map
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>>500091094
>gets ensnared by a bow user
>doesn't do anything defensive
>doesn't block against the obvious charge attack
Fucking idiot
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>>500091781
>implying you'll ever even have enough stamina in a real scenario to block properly for longer than a second
I can tell you never actually pvp
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>>500091781
yeah let me just defend when I'm under 20 layers of different cc and my stamina depleted since that's what parry actually does in this game
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It's over...
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>>500092526
thank god so what game are we playing next?
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>>500092054
found the guy that gets hit by every single fury attack in death's abyss
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>>500093109
you're actually retarded, just stop posting
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>>500093109
>thinks blocking in pvp works literally anything like blocking in pve
retard
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>>500093234
>>500093181
I'm not even the first guy, I'm just calling you a retard for not knowing what perfect blocking is

post your arena ranks so i can laugh at you
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Is lucent shared for characters even when they're on different servers?
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>>500093358
>perfect blocking
>in arena
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>>500093856
yes retard, you LITERALLY get perfect blocks when you block cc
post rank
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Should I use one of the arena necklaces? Hit is hard to come by.
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>>500094759
gay nigger retard or just shitposting? how are you going to get a perfect block other than out of sheer luck or by fishing obvious idiots who dive you? how are you going to get a block at all when you're being dogpiled?
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block this
*pisses all over you*
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>enemy uses skills that drains all your stamina
>"Just pixel perfect block all their skills with zero stamina xD"
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>>500095001
because if you aren't retarded you know wjem they're about to cc you
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>got catcalled because I'm using the wicked enchanter outfit
I don't want to play pugs anymore...
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>>500097821
>dress like a slut
>get treated like one
>pikachu face
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Any good places to talk about the game? These threads are literally all complaints and trying to convince people to quit it's very bizarre honestly.
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>>500099953
if you want a hugbox I'd recommend reddit for you, princess
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>>500100226
But you literally are reddit.
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>>500093697
yes lucent is acc wide no matter the server you are in also goes for outfits and weapon skins
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>>500099953
It's just the few faggots who already quit that continue to post here rent free when they get bored
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>niggas cant even press q
i hope yall dont play fighting games
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>>500104919
>q
>not rebinding keys
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The official T&L discord is unironically better than this place.
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ahem, vidya is under new management
no more d*scord
rename coming soon
still doing guild raids (we got two gs and some cool pants today)
zero expectations besides logging in sometimes and not being an annoying faggot in guild chat

the last survivors of Lottie - NA East...
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Hi guys, casual player here with 1900 item score. I have maxed out my abyss dungeon points. I'm a longbow and wand user. Which dungeon should I go to, to maximize useful drops? Here is my picture offering.
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I hope some small scale pvp is coming soon, it's no fun having zerg vs zerg
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>>500106283
>1900 at 50
You should be at least 2200 when hitting 2200. Also, whore.
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>>500106283
I dont think theres any reason to do anything other than random anymore
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>>500106283
I don't know about useful drops but do your open dungeon contracts
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>>500106362
I feel bad for the smaller guilds, they have no content. That's how a game dies
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>>500106451
I don't know what that is. Do you mean the weekly scroll thing you buy with contract coins?
>>500106446
Sorry I didn't mean the queue dungeon, dimensional I think its called. I meant the abyssal one, which is basically the open world dungeon. I went to Syleus' Abyss a couple times, but I'm not sure if thats the right place to be, and its kinda hard to find people there now, too.
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>>500106617
>check a conflict boss out of curiosity
>it's the exact same whale zerg just farming random people trying to tag for 1 hour straight while ignoring the boss
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>>500105795
>not being an annoying faggot in guild chat
so the guild is empty?
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>>500106818
>"pvp mmos are dead!! why cant devs make good ones? why are they so fucking retarded?"
>one gets made
>people proceed to chimp out and act like a nigger and make the game absolutely miserable for everyone
>game predictably dies
>same retarded ass players continue to gaslight and pretend they dont know why devs cant make a good game and why pvp mmos dont last or are even being made
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>>500106729
Sundries merchant in any city sells you a weekly bundle that gives contracts. The contracts for each dungeon give you pouches that might have cool loot in them. Generally, you should just do whatever you need to clear contracts for or whatever is set as your guild's current guild contract.
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>>500107189
it's just gooks being retarded though, the entire game is designed around enabling whale zergs
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>>500107189
You can have huge unlimited alliances, that's the devs fault
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>>500107189
PVP MMO players are a fascinating insight into the shopping cart trolley problem applied to a large social context
Except instead of simply not returning the cart, they go further and actively sabotage it instead, just because "they can, so it's intended"
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>>500107189
Any game with PvP as its focus dies fairly quickly because of shit like this. I don't think many devs really care though, they see it as higher value to milk a game in the short term rather than trying to make an actually good game that survives for years.
>>500107074
Not entirely. Just the obvious faggots or inactives that were long overdue were kicked.
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>>500107715
>yes goy, do the extra work for a billion dollar company!
Nah, pay minimum wage to a teenager to do it for me thank you
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>>500107715
well said. they abuse the game in ways they know will kill it. their cognitive dissonance is remarkable
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>>500099953
quit. quit. do it pussy. quit
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I will NEVER quit this awesome game.
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>>500110235
>oh no guilds are making huge alliances because the retarded devs didn't put a cap to them
>oh no guilds are killing others in a PVP boss zone
>oh no guilds are spawncamping teleports during PVP night time
>oh no guilds are using the eclipse mechanic to deny bosses from other guilds
All literally intended by the devs, if you don't like it blame the devs not the players
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>>500111078
eclipse has to be the most retarded shit i've seen in a gook game so far, absolutely baffling
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>>500111680
good players should be rewarded with useful perks. thats called good game design.
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>>500111850
>good players
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>>500111850
>Good game
>Gooks
rumao
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>>500111979
good isn't only about being able to fight well 1v1 (although eclipse players can probably kick your ass too), its about coordinating well, being a good leader for a guild to establish that dominance in the first place. so yes, in the broadest sense, they are good.
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>>500112160
The eclipse user on my server is a mentally challenged zoomer who drained his dad's credit card and runs around with 100 other retards killing low levels and spamming insults at them,.
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does every tab target with dungeons limit their dungeons to daily/weekly shit or just this one? like can I run dungeons as much as I want in wow? i might have to find a new mmo that lets me do whatever i want and come to find out that I don't hate tab target as much as I thought I would
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I HATE DOING CONTRACTS JUST UNCAP IT PLS
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>>500107189
Warhammer Online solved this, it had the perfect PvP system both for guilds, factions and casuals.
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>>500113713
tarisland (i know, not everyone likes it) lets you rerun dungeons and raids. dungeons cancgive 6 rewards per day, and take 15 min each run. raids give rewards 1 run a week, from each individually, but you can requeue immediately after and get special coins for helping others that you can later exchange for some mats
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>>500113713
In a way it makes the gear feel more meaningful, like in WoW the gear you get from dungeons feel useless and obsolete after less than a week of a patch.
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>>500112312
you have zero proof of that. youre just salty for getting your shit pushed in, so thats how you imagine him as in order to cope
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>>500114987
t- eclipse user dad credit card drainer
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>>500115210
many such cases
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>>500107189
pvp in mmos has always been shit, people who are good at pvp games play games who are good expressions of skill
for example, all the high iq koreans have always played starcraft while the low iqs are playing some mmo talking about muh pvp
what this game needs is harder dungeons and actual raids
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>>500116098
>starcraft
>high IQ
LMAO
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So guys, theres no meaning to armor type in this game? I can just wear whatever I like the stats for, and mix iron, leather, cloth and stuff? So I can just look like a clown and there isn't any sort of detriment other than looking weird?
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>>500116098
no thank you raidnigger, your kind killed so many mmos with your sweaty raid autism
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>>500117284
are you having fun playing all pve content in this game with your feet? a little challenge would be nice
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can weapons ever be tradeable as a drop? or only when you craft it can it ever have a chance of being sellable?
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>>500113713
I can only speak for XIV because that's the only other MMO I've played recently though haven't touched current expansion yet.

Better gear is gotten through tokens that you earn from doing pretty much any multiplayer content and there is a weekly cap that you can fill out in about 4 days worth of dailies. But those dailies include several different categories like story dungeon, leveling dungeon, high level dungeon, max level dungeon, 8 man boss and 24 man raid.
Nothing stops you from spamming content for transmogs, I think only current raid content had weekly lockouts.

What I liked most about about the game was visual clarity and you could take a good guess about what's about to happen even before the mechanic happens because everything had clear marker. Tankbustesr lights up the tank, shared tankbuster adds to it, stack has arrows pointing inwards and spread arrows outwards that clear show what you need to do.
And as you are doing harder content they start taking away these markers so you need to know the fight.

Beware that the game has quite long global cooldown at 2.5s that takes time to get used to and early game will be very slow but I've come to appreciate it as I went back and played other games where I need to spam like a coked up monkey and still feeling like the dps wasn't matching the effort put into it.
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>>500117567
gooks can't do good pve, see lost ark
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>>500117624
craft unless it's one of those field bosses
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>>500116098
Why do retards always want raids and dungeons?
What's the fun in fighting the same boss every single week for like 8 months straight without any other content?
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>>500117624
yes. crafting has 20% chance of being tradesble (great success). it has a different frame icon than nontradeable drops, and the AH icon on its menu description turned on
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>>500117967
>i don't like repetitive content
lol isn't that what we're doing here?
what are you still leveling or something?
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>>500114048
Which is why it lost 90% of it's playerbase after the free month sub that came with the box price ended
Warrior Priest was cool as fuck though
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>>500118471
No retard there's still a pretty big private server for it. It died because it was released unfinished and then the company went down the shitter.
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>>500117883
ahh ok, so only world bosses can drop untradeable aside from lucky craft. thanks
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>>500117870
lost ark pve design is nonexistent. and before anyone says raids, raids are NOT pve. its a PART of pve. pve is a broad spectrum of content, and raids are just one aspect. even then, lost ark raid design is HIV as fuck, where one idiot will cause an instant wipe for a 15 minute gate. and its designed so youre supposed to do 18 raids a week with these idiots.
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>>500118883
>one idiot will cause an instant wipe
Worst part is you can't even blame him because the fights are extremely poorly designed and require both chinksect levels of memorization and being able to see through 10 layers of visual diarrhea.
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>>500118883
It did have good PVE, the Island system from season 1 was amazing and had a fuck ton of side-content to do and would have been incredibly easy to update from a development perspective. I loved that shit when I played it.
Then they abandoned it all and turned it into an exclusively geargrind lobby-waiting raid autism/daily chore simulator. It's the worlds most disgusting travesty because there is no other ARPG in the market that plays as well or has as good feeling and unique class design as Lost Ark and it makes me furious they squandered it
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where the fuck is blood dragon jasper it isn't where youtube videos show
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>>500110870
holy based
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>>500119417
Gooks always do this to their games. Look at Archeage for example. One day they just decide to kill their game and raise it as an abominable zombie for raidniggers.
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>>500116098
>pvp in mmos has always been shi
you're not wrong but until another genre offers medium to large scale pvp in a fantasy setting it looks like it's MMOs for me. any suggestions?
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>>500119575
Look at maplestory too. Old school maplestory wasn't that great but it was simple and fun, then it got really good around the time they started doing the first explorer reworks. Now modern maple barely resembles either era of old school and middle school, now it's not even recognizeable it's all fucking technicolor vomit and no class has any identity besides how many lines of damage they can spit out. I hate how koreans make good games then destroy them, why do they love powercreep so much
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where can I find build for epic lvl2?
I'm curious to see what they are using over there
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So... name some good mmos? You guys just cry about how bad the games are.
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>>500120432
Ragnarok online also. They raped it so much it doesn't even resemble a game anymore and people just play on private servers without any of that bullshit.
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>>500120505
>lineage 2
>ragnarok online before renewal
>vanilla wow
>(partially) tbc wow (pvp was bad though)
>rift during beta
>original aion
>war
>archeage on release
>bns on release
>tera on release
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>>500120242
not really, i think it's always going to be kinda dumb but who knows
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>>500118689
So... What you're saying is, I'm not wrong that it lost 90% of it's playerbase as soon as people had to pay their own sub. And the game is in fact dead in any official capacity.
Thanks for confirming
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>>500120710
I meant ones I can play now.
>bns on release
Bns classic was out. Is this any good?
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>>500120726
bummer. shooter fans have all these large scale games like planetside battlefield foxhole and milsim autism, medieval fans have chivalry bannerlord and mordhau (idk if that's still alive), space autists have eve and the other game elite something, fantasy fans who want to be a cog in a meatgrinder don't have shit except for MMOs that can't ever do it right. at this point I don't even care about the MMO aspect, I just want something I can jump in, get kills and get killed in a large scale scenario, then log off. like what the fuck it's 2024 how does this not exist yet, how is that something nobody wants at all. i played bf4 for months until throne because i needed to scratch that itch and it did not suffice because I'm not a big shooter fan
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>>500120967
the first 3 and war have private servers which are perfectly fine
don't touch any "classic" release
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>>500120814
How fucking dare you
The game is alive and well like anon said. If the devs just fixed it up they could have maintained these numbers.
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>desire to spend lucent on buying traits
>also desire to buy outfits
This is tough
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>>500121486
thanks bwo
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>>500121959
traits get cheaper, oufits don't and they also aren't available 24/7
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>>500121753
Lineage 2 has tens of thousands of autists still playing it cross many pservers. WaR never had a chance being westernslop with a dead start.
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>>500122156
>Lineage 2
NTA but aren't most of them russian and chinese though, with the official servers in korea being the most populated? I need insight on why they like that ancient game so much, literally what was so good about lineage 2
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>>500120710
Aion was always shit from day 1. I can confirm this as I was as there.
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>>500122535
Yeah Russians love that shut.

What's good about it? It's an open world, FFA PvP and 100% player-driven economy with group activities like castle sieges, raid bosses or just dungeon farming politics.
>>500122717
I was there too and I think it had a lot of potential but gooks always tank their games.
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Why do people say staff wand is a viable healing build? I get bow wand, but staff has literally no side utility for support. If staff wand is also viable for healing you could say that of literally any weapons combo with wand.
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>>500123307
Yeah it's literally any weapon with wand since wand alone is enough.
Staff just makes sense thematically and has some utility skills like mana recovery and debuffs.
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>>500123307
wans and bow individually can be all a healer needs. staff for AoE farming outside of dungeons and raids. wand bow is a full healer, but nothing really needs that much heal utility
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>found karnix netherblade with crit on it
>cucktard me thought i finally hit a jackpot, could make a couple hundred lucent
>check market
>less than 100 lucent
fuck me in the ass, its fucking over. we are fighting for literal scraps now.
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>>500125347
karnix HP is around 400
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>>500122535
>I need insight on why they like that ancient game so much, literally what was so good about lineage 2
hi, lineage2 autist here
lineage2 is objectively garbage game. it was never good.
anyone trying to tell you otherwise is delusional.
we played it because we had no money for wow.
simple as.
if anyone thinks throneslop is bad on le whale top guilds bullying everyone, lineage2 is unironically infinitely worse.
every single boss is pvp enabled.
every single spot to grind is pvp enabled.
the first party to hold them, chokeholds entire server until they get bored and leave.
modern lineage2 pserver scene is basically seasonal rmt business.
why we still play it? nostalgia. closures. mental illness.
because only mentally ill people would spend 500-1000 USD to dominate trashcan that will live no more than a year and sometimes even months only to jump into the next fresh trashcan with their wallets open. don't ask me where they get their money. probably the same place where furries get theirs.
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>>500120710
>no ffxiv
Kys nigger
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>>500127809
fuck off troon
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Just spent 100k on a crossbow, AMA
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>>500128476
didn't ask
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>>500128476
>brainrot
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>>500123307
it offers great damage to support killing shit in pve faster what else do you need
also cc, pull, mana restore
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>>500128476
How many days did your landlord give you to pack?
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Why are all mystic portals across the world just gone?
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>>500130408
maybe you have no keys
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>>500128476
nice, have fun with it friend.
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>>500128476
let's see it
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we had a nice thing going with vidya btw; it was comfy (before we let the normies in altho i understand why). unsure why almost every one of the ogs (except for sani) decided to quit. the game is still fun for me. even tho I didn't really get super close to anyone, I'll miss ya!
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>>500133174
nobody on 4chan plays this game + people were quitting. The guild was doomed to fail.
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>>500127276
cool summary not that guy but this was an enjoyable read mr autist you should write a blog (not sarcasm)
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>>500133174
idk once the real leader (archer) left I didn't wanna be bossed around by retard paypiggies thats why I left nothing wrong with them I just didn't wanna be in it especially when it became normieslop I was only there because it was autismkino once the comfy was gone i was 2
I assume this is the same for most of them
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>>500134025
huh? I was never the leader of the guild btw lol Viixu was the Gm in its heyday (i.e. week 1 and 2)
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>>500123307
Groupwide CDR + Max Damage bonus with High Focus is kind of Staff's version of Deadly Marker although it isn't quite as good. Also the pull skill, and extra hard CC with Tomb. But really people just like Staff/Wand because it's the healer build that actually deals damage instead of sitting in the cuck chair waiting for the other 5 people in your group to kill the boss while you cheer them on from the sidelines twiddling your little bowstring and stroking your wand impotently.
Bow is definitely the full support build with all of the extra dispels and shit, but Staff has so much better personal performance that with a good group (if you still even want to bring a healer at that point) Staff/Wand gives you all of the support you could need + much higher damage. Whereas Bow/Wand is just overkill in terms of additional healing at the cost of so much lost damage output that even altering skills like Clay's Salvation and Blessed Barrier to get extra damage buffs doesn't make up for the overall damage loss because support-spec Bow has such low damage output compared to support-spec Staff which still shits out damage.
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>archer still here shitposting instead of moving on
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>>500134025
there was no "kino" nobody ever did shit in the guild about over 90 % of you were useless piece of dogshit that never came on or were brainafk.
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>>500134025
You don't sound like you were in the guild at all.
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I'll be honest, I was never on Lottie, so I could never join my frens in Vidya even though I wanted to. I was simply too lazy to start over from early access. I just sort of watched from the sidelines while you guys argued until some mentally ill guy completely destroyed the general until its as dead as it is now. I won't lie, I don't hate this game so its sad to see the thread basically crumple in just 3 weeks, but I guess thats life...
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>>500134025
this, >>500135293
why do people come to lie on the internet. and about something so random
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>>500134025
??? what
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>>500134737
leave the tranny alone!
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>>500135384
didn't read, but damn I really wish I could take the stupid headdress off this piece and just have the hairstyle
for whatever reason, the character creator's hairstyles are super limited in respect to what you can find in the world, just look at some NPCs and you'll see how many hairstyles are actually in the game
they're not even selling them for lucent, they just don't let you have them for no reason
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>>500137076
That hair is available. In fact, that is the very same hair she naturally has. The only thing I notice is that wearing the headpiece makes her hair look more vibrantly red.
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servers dead?
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even ads are fucking intrusive these days
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what mastery levels does the average and no life player have?
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>can't do quest because area is under a gvg event
can't these fuck off instead? not my fault I'm not in the top 10 guild or some shit owning the area
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>>500138010
no it isn't , you're blind
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>>500145483
>1000 lucent = $6
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>>500148074
Anyone buying lucent ingame instead of from 3rd party sites is double retarded.
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>>500122123
traits won't get cheaper they will get more expensive. Currency is limited and as people quit moving forward while the game taxes your sales higher than irl taxes currency will become too scarse and may kill the market as nobody holds lucent. Game is not made with future in mind. Regardless what will happen this game is destined to fail on multiple fronts and market is one of them.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2e8lW45bpKQ
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w-w-what, please dont ban me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrKJfG5LU_g

this game is a joke
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someone pick the right pumpkin I've been getting mauled by the pumpkin monsters ffor hours now
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>>500148254
>price is the same
>risk a ban
???
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What is skill damage boost?
The description reads like heavy attack, but there's no visual indicator of it activating, so I don't think it actually is a 3rd form of crit
does it increase ability multipliers or something?
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Well, would you?
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>1 hour 80% mastery buff killing 15-20 open world mobs a minute increased my mastery by about 10% at level 12
how fucking long is lv15-16 going to take?
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If you don't really need any items from the abyssal dungeons, which one is the best to grind at?
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>>500160121
whichever ones you have contracts for
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which daily quest am I suppose to pick?
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Love from Pettanko!
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>bumped the dead thread off page 9
Thanks for doing it for free then
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its deadge
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people arent social enough for a mmo like this
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>>500134636
>cheer them on from the sidelines twiddling your little bowstring and stroking your wand impotently
n-nonsense thats what gets me off
there are different bow/wand support builds
I use one that still does very good boss damage
but it's a roulette still because you can be matched with dumbs who will eat through all heals even from full supportslut build and STILL die
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>>500168506
true
all the behaviors exhibited by players in this game are anti-social, if anything. zoomers don't know how to socialize and boomers don't want to
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>>500169913
tbf, i joined a normie guild and noped out of their discord like 15 mins into it. hearing w*men talk in my videogames is a no-no
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>>500158838
>open world mobs
retard
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>>500170132
i meant open world dungeon mobs
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Sorry frens I gotta quit for a bit. TNL was taking up too much of my time. I've got 11 games I want to finish by the end of the year and tnl was taking up all of my game time.
t. Blue
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We're dropping like flies lottiebros..
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i'm really getting done with this game even to do the boring green events you have to hold hands with your heckin guild to "compete" with the heckin top guilds tagging the same spot, such a retarded design. it should just be solo points for these events. there's just nothing to do in this fucking game
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>>500176349
You can't even complete the world events, all the lvl 50 events are bugged and give no rewards if you 100% them.
This has been bugged since launch.
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I've been playing/sitting so much I got a pretty bad hemorrhoid that's hurting real bad rn..........
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>>500177963
get up and do squats and stretches every so often
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>>500177963
pop it with ur fingernails but make sure they are dirty and filled with bacteria before you do it then share your story with us
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if i dont have dungeon tokens and i run the dungeons i can still get the amitoi right?
am i mentally ill for even thinking about it?
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>>500166441
This ski never had a limited availability timer, but it disappeared anyways. I will never forgive NCSoft for this.
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>>500168506
OSRS
>random in a friends chat asks who wants to go to corp
>takes roughly 15 minutes until like 20-30 mids with bandos/fang/torva to show up for a reward for 1 person that's usually shit
TL
>ask my rank 8 guild who wants to hit up ANY open dungeon
>no one wants to despite being rank 2 in guild kills as a HEALER
>no one ever even talks in guild chat unless it's the guild leader pinging everyone
What the fuck is their problem?
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>>500173542
Ok bwo. Please share with us which games.
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sns/gs is the most op whale build.
>30k hp
>1 hit 15k plebs
>unkillable
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>>500183953
uhmm it's ok because if the enemy has full stamina and pixel perfect Q block both of their stuns they can't kill so easily!
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>>500182049
its an internal one....
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i did it bwos
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>>500184149
based
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>>500184149
nice, gj! build?
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>>500184521
sns/gs
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>>500184208
>>500184521
crossbow daggers
my build is a bit of a mess, im only 2.7k gs
which for arena felt incredibly low
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>>500185242
>>500185486
metaniggers
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>>500185848
>xbow dagger
>meta
nigga this shit sucks outside of arenas which nobody even takes seriously
>but its best in pve!
easy already, so that doesn't matter
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>>500183776
Normie games have nice and social people. I could never play RS, but it's hard to deny they have old school people that still play with that mindset that made MMOs good. Even normie games like Fallout 76 have decent, social people. Korean MMOs always have the worst subhumans.
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>>500186000
>NOOO IT'S ONLY GOOD IN SMALLSCALE THE ONLY PVP CONTENT THAT MATTERS!
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>>500186328
anon we literally both agree smallscale doesnt matter
take your meds
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>>500182620
The amitoi comes from opening the chest, so no
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>>500183831
No idea if I can even get through all of these this year but im trying. Half of them are gifts from friends from last xmas so I want to finish them before xmas this year.
Metaphor
Romancing Saga 2 remake
factorio dlc
Pathfinder wrath of the righteous
nioh 2
Rabiribi
RE8
Crosscode
Dragons dogma 2
la-mulana 2
yearly playthrough of vampire the masquerade
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>>500186000
What the fuck are you smoking you dumb nigger. Xbow/dagger is the prime stack remover during zerg times.
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>>500186000
this little faggot is coping so hard
>daggers most broken dogshit ass weapon that broke the game
>crossbow the zerg wiping weapon
combined you are the biggest nigger faggot meta dogshitter. stop coping. everybody and their dogs playing this shit weapon combo because its broken as shit
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>>500188067
Not him but I tried using xbow for le epic reddit zerg wipe aoe and it doesn't do jack shit if youi're not using daggers too.
Daggers make everything they interact with broken.
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>>500187205
I heard Dragon's Dogma 2 is Dragon's Dogshit 2. Crosscode is super old and pozzed, I think. But good luck bwo, these are some really long titles. I won't lie, I've cheated in a select few long games before just so I could get the story and skip the slog. I guess thats what MMOs do to your time. Lucky for you that you can learn to just quit something, I'm too mentally weak.
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>>500188170
so you agree with me cool
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>>500188862
Yeah but retards here will have every single weapon daggers interact with nerfed.
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uh huh yeah
anyway
what's the next mmo release?
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So anyways, I run a double greatsword build and use all greatsword skills. Yeah I pretty much delete everyone, haha. Ok laters!
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>>500186809
are you sure? i'm 90% sure i saw it just drop (not from the chest)
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page 9........................................................it's been over
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>>500194214
It's because all of you were so RUDE to our cute ingame screenshot posters.
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>>500134025
m*mmilk take your meds. archer isn't a real person and 99% of the people in the guild never did shit including you
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What am I getting myself into? Is this just like every korean mmo aka you just farm for shit non-stop or is there an actual game with end content under it all?
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>>500196204
wow
it's literally nothing
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>>500196204
they're not going to do shit. there are more bots than ever and even normal people are starting to bot with macros. they care more about you saying no-no words like tranny faggot and nigger more than anything
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>>500196204
So how is going to stop castle owners from RMTing their lucent away with alts?
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>>500196204
>We do not condone RMT
>unless its through the official channels
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>>500196237
reaching gear cap is surprisingly easy in this game
like, 2-3 weeks of investment easy
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>>500155867
nigga botted lucent is only 1/3 the price and amazon never punishes people. its the perfect time to go all out
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>>500196237
the endgame is disappointing imo, just mid pvp bs
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>>500196204
>"we will never ban cheaters, just buy lucent from us until you aren't negative and we will forgive any nigger behavior you have ever done"
what an absolute joke of a response. they will find workarounds as they always have
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>We are focused on maintaining a fair and equal playing environment
>fair and equal
Ummmm....gookdevs?
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>>500199371
>eclipse activated
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>>500196204
>they don't even get banned and barely punished
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in the trailer near the beginning of the game it showed like 50+ players all fighting bosses, is this something that happens in the open world spontaneously or is it some gay guild shit that has to be coordinated? is this even in the game yet? what level/how long before you get to this kind of stuff in the game and how often do you do it

also it looked like there was some huge PVP battle between players outside some castle wall looking fortification and a bunch of players ontop of that wall, is this in the game and is it easy to find fights like this? i remember there being fights like this in elder scrolls online and it was really cool, but it was kinda hard to find where the fights were happening sometimes and it only got worse and worse until there either never were any anymore or i just couldnt find them. i think the server pop may have died too low for that kind of pvp anymore i guess but idk but once that was gone and after i had wasted a bunch of time looking for it over and over again i basically was like fuck this game
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>spent 20k abyssal dungeon tokens
>sell what I get
>300 lucent worth of gems and a couple useless blue extracts
its over for f2poors like me
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>>500205534
based
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>>500205493
its more like 1000+ players fighting bosses in the open world
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>>500205727
whaaa
sick
where, what level does this stuff start
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>>500206271
you can join at any level i think but the bosses are all 50+
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>>500205493
None of that is cool, it's all pretty lame
>woah so many people to kill the heckin boss
>boss dies in 5 seconds
who gives a fuck
>woah so many people fighting for the heckin pvp boss
>one alliance controls the whole area most of the time and if not it's just a mindless deathball against another mindless deathball
who gives a fuck

where are the hard dungeons and raids? what is even the point of this game? who plays p2w mmo for the pvp?
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>>500206380
>>500206741
is it retarded to use staff and wand at the same time? if so whats good with staff

also is there going to be a wipe considering this game is still early access?

and yeah i didnt know this game was so pvp focused...
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>>500206996
playing this game is retarded
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>>500206741
>>500207586
someone got banned hehehehe
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>>500207586
all modern videogames are shit so my expectations arent that high
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>>500207904
>if you think the endgame is retarded you got banned
sanest tnl enjoyer, i got one more weekly reset of doing dungeons with my feet in 3 minutes before i quit
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>>500158030
wow someones actually wearing the hat
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>>500206996
As a staff wand at 3k if I could swap out for bow wand I'd do it in a second
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>do unranked arena to get my weekly 3 wins
>everyone got 2000 evasion
fun
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>>500196237
Its pvp
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>>500212217
Ranked is unironically better since unranked is full of whales flexing.
Evasion is pure fucking cancer though and gooks are retarded for not reworking it.
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>>500212114
whys that?
do they actually work together in some way or what, because any particular weapon could get nerfed any moment anyway
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>>500212682
Staff wand offers more DPS than bow wand which doesn't matter because you're taking pretty much all heals and buffs at endgame pvp anyway. Its unmatched at farming mobs and levelling for sure. And the damage isn't terrible for finishing off an opponent you can even 1v1 DPSers easily, like I can beat people in my servers top 5 killers but the mana is trash compared to bow, buffs/heals slightly worse also. Small scale pvp might see better performance if there were more chances for it but there's a lack of content geared toward like 20v20
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>>500205459
not slutty enough, would not buy
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>>500190764
It drops from the boss not the chest. it will be a yellowish white name item on the ground super obvious because nothing else has the same color
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>>500214428
>t. 80 IQ
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>>500206741
>wah make it a raidnigger game
go back to lost ark then
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>>500214692
lost ark is absolutely awful precisely because of "raids" that are designed by retards
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>>500154105
The right pumpkin has a different icon
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>>500212114
as bow wand, i would exchange for greatsword in a second. i see them aoe cleaving 10 mob packs and it looks so fun and they re so strong..uwu. i cant kill monsters at all. killing a single monster takes forever
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>login
>get my lucent from sales overnight
>send amitoi expedition, make guild contributions
>head to purelight and do 10 contracts
>complete mystic orbs from keys i bought yesterday
>visit guild vendor, sundries vendor, contract coin vendor
>find event wandering merchant for my candy corn
>2x event dungeon, 3x random dungeon
>decline every random dungeon that isn't the one i want
>stand in town and show off my black leather body suit outfit
>look forward to doing it all again tomorrow
Pure bliss
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>>500217116
me except the lucent part cause i'm an europoor and make zero
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>>500217668
its not great on nae either. everything goes for 10 lucent now
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>>500216402
makeyour alt gs/dagger then
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>>500218158
>dagger
that's for metazombies and fags
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>>500206741
>where are the hard dungeons
What is it you want exactly? I think the dungeons they've shown have been pretty unique in their own way and fun to do the boss. I did Duke Magna with a group last night that was learning the fight and it is a fun fight. Every encounter is designed to be beatable, so when you say you want a hard dungeon, what are we talking about here?
Because if it's lost ark style of hard of requiring voice comms with perfect coordination between every single party member for 20 straight minutes, that can fuck right off.
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>>500218158
i settled on gs staff so I can be so powerful in both uwu
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>even /bdog/ is more active than here
Are we really ok with this sisters?
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>>500220345
yes

This game is missing the coomer audience because it's so tame. /vg/ is like 90 percent coomers these days
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>>500220542
>This game is missing the coomer audience
For now... Halloween outfit says to me the coom is slowly on it's way
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>>500135064
>over 90 % of you were useless piece of dogshit that never came on or were brainafk.
can confirm. thiis is me
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>>500220643
We still didn't have any boobs or butt sliders. It doesn't matter what kind of skins they have if you can't make your mega milkers goddess.
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>>500214692
what do you even do in this game?
>>500218657
i think the dungeons would be so fun if everyone was capped at green gear
i want a common sense of progression like a raid that we would be looking forward to
i have nothing to do, no i will not be fishing for hours on end
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>>500221247
>common sense of progression
I think this did exist, the dungeons were certainly more difficult in the first few weeks of playing than it is now that people have geared up
>raid that we would be looking forward
This exists in a sense of the timed bosses especially the more uncommon ones, but also in guild raid bosses. Although they're not challenging.
They have said that 12 man raids are on their way in the roadmap, coming jan/feb time, so maybe this is more what you're chasing?
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>>500221247
Issues with dungeons are
>trash doesn't drop anything so everybody tries to skip it
>the difficulty is designed for ilvl 1600 (it should have been 2000 at least) and even f2p players are at 3k now so the dungeons are steamrolled
Adding unfun, stressful and poorly designed weekly raidnigger shit like in LA is a sure way to make people quit.
I do agree that we need more group content though. Even open dungeons are easily soloable now and world bosses can't even be called content.

But also I would just farm whatever I need if we didn't have those daily limits. Gooks really love their dailies.
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>>500221848
I played since early access and I'm only 2200. I think you underestimate how slow casuals can be.
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>>500221943
??? I was at 2200 or somewhere around there before I even hit 50.
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>>500221943
>only 2200
Why don't you try actually traiting your gear and levelling up your skills
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>>500221943
how much do you play, an hour and a half a day? i was able to make a 800 progress in two days, being 2100 as its starting point
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>>500221943
You get like 2800 just traiting blue gear
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>>500221943
that just means you're not upgrading traits
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>>500222479
2200 is exactly a full set of +9 blues with no traits upgraded. The shit you get as a fresh 50 or even before.
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>people that did RMT didn't even get banned at all
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>>500221943
thats prolly because youre using all your lucent to buy slutty skins instead of upgrading your gear you stupid slut
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>>500223367
Don't just call me out like that, damn
Time sensitive limited slutty skins are forever
Traiting gear is only temporary until the next tier of gear
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>list a litograph
>undercutting the cheapest by one lucent
>check again 2 hours later
>somebody undercut by 30
>then another undercut by 40
>then there's a dozen other undercuts
>the item is now like 100 lucent cheaper than originally
I fucking hate normies and browns so much it's unreal.
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>>500223674
>now there's another 30 lucent undercut
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE
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>>500223674
If you undercut me by 1 I'll do a minimum 50 lucent undercut
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>>500223616
>Traiting gear is only temporary until the next tier of gear
you retarded? the blessing carries over so there's ZERO reason to not max your traits even with cheap shit
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>>500223674
>Undercutter complains
You deserve it retard. If I see this this shit I'm always tanking the price to spite you niggers.
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>>500224091
Transferring blessing doesn't give a guaranteed full trait piece of gear
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>>500223674

>someone undercuts me by 1
>I undercut them by 100
trolled
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>>500221824
what i'm chasing is anything to do. why can't i go try to gear my char right now? i love timegating
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>negative 96k lucent
NCsoft really going out there and just bricking peoples accounts
This feels more punishing than just banning them, It's like you have to make amends or pay reparations now if you want to keep playing
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>>500225989
stop being unemployed, i cant even make time to do my dailies
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>>500226110
it's the best way to do it, a 7 day ban is nothing if you get away with RMTing months worth of income
t. bought millions in lost ark and only ever got slapped on the wrist for a week while keeping all of the shit i bought
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>>500225989
>timegating
Yeah it's shit, but also maybe don't spend half of every day living on this game.
And if you must, join a guild and be part of a community and complete guild contracts, there's progression to be had that goes beyond 'my gear drops'
fuck syleus's abyss floor 3f-4f guild contract
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>spend 4k lucent
>get 100 cp
haha!
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>>500223983
Same I'll burn it to the ground if i have to out of spite and after the price drops it's never going back up.
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>>500226110
It's actually a genius solution. It isn't only negative lucent but you can't use the AH until it hits 0.

I fucking kneel, Bezos you gigakike.
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>>500226110
>1.6k to get your account back
it's funny because some of these people will do it
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>>500226110
Shekel up goyim
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>>500226110
>4.5k dungeon tokens
rmt niggas don't even play the game
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nice game amazon, rmt millions of lucent, only get 1/3 of it deducted and dont even face a ban LMAO. just keep cheating in this game, its free
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>>500226110
>pay us 1500$ or you can never use the ah again
Lol rekt
A bit too late though everything is 10-100 lucent unless it's a super good trait or armor/weapon so the ah is already dead unless you get a new item drop and post it for a reasonable price. These devs are mentally retarded they could have banned the bots and everyone would be swiping 99$ to buy 1 piece of armor because they can't help themselves.
The devs devalued their own currency. Koreans and Amazon are astoundingly retarded
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>>500226117
3 dungeons and 10 contracts? that's like 45min?
>>500226368
guild contracts are boring content and i have already done them too
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>>500226508
they enrich themselves while doing onthing for the affected honest players.
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>>500226668
>19 million gold
They clearly haven't upgraded anything either it's like 4 million for a couple purple skill books
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>>500227136
>honest player
>with 100k lucent
lol, lmao even
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>>500227117
>that's like 45min
Bro, your world bosses, your hourly events, your guild raid boss night, your mystic keys, your expeditions, your halloween event dungeons, your abyssal contracts, your arenas, your resistance contracts

Legitimately, what are you looking to get out of this though. If you're not enjoying the game, the answer is simple; stop playing. If you are enjoying it which is why you won't stop, come to terms with the fact that you play a little and stop, you don't need to wake up, log on and play all day every single day
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>>500226852
>dont even face a ban
I dunno man, this feels legitimately worse than a ban. Imagine being these people and not having paid off your debt by next tier. Forced solo self found mode enabled
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Normies killed vidya, great job.
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>>500226110
>ingame debt
Holy KEK, based devs
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>>500228032
>you don't need to cum inside, just rub it in my leg instead
How about no? I WILL cum inside because i WANT to. I WILL pump and and dump your game instead of playing it 20 minutes every day for the next 10 years. Don't tell me that wearing a cock-cage is normal just because you like it. When I go in, I go in HARD. Then I dump it
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>>500229373
>When I go in, I go in HARD. Then I dump it
Where does whinging like a beta bitch on a taiwanese basket weaving forum about how the game isn't letting you go HARD because of time gating fit into your roadmap
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So bwos, I'm going to just buy the cheapest trait extractions possible and loading up my blue gear with just anything, and then when I transfer that to a purple piece, I get enough "blessing" to get a free maxed one one trait of my liking? Is that how it works? Or do the traits I max out on the blue piece matter what they are? And they have to be maxed out levels right? Not just 3 traits, but all 3 fully leveled?
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>Kanon got his ass kicked in PvP so now he's making a 8 Alliance zerg
Why are streamers such cucks?
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>>500232003
You will be wearing blues for a while so might as well make them good
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>They didn't even name and shame the people that used RMT
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>>500232003
All traits maxed, once you transfer you get 960 blessings which is enough for 2 100% upgrades (using a blue)
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i just want to do my contracts or whatever and this retarded incomprehensible bullshit is happening instead, where im supposed to be competing with players 5 times my level doing some random other confusing bs and i cant just see what my dumbass quests are while im in the area where i need to be to do them
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>>500232760
Wow, two? And I get to pick what those traits are? No wayyy...
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I got it bros, I somehow got it with whales running around bulldozing everything.
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>>500232923
2 UPGRADES, not two fully maxed traits kek. That's why you save those blessings for the most expensive traits, depending on the gear you save lots of lucent
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>>500232376
I guess for the armor it really makes little difference if its something like mana regen or magic evasion or something right? I'll just pick whatever is cheap. For the weapon, maybe I should pick the expensive stuff then? Like heavy attack? Or is that a waste, you think?
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>>500233378
depends on what your goals in the game are
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>>500233034
grats bwo, you even got the morph that gets you 15 points for the speed boost. im jealous, im so shit at the game i will NEVER get one of those.
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>>500233523
The morph is why I did this because it's cute as fuck. I also got the grandpa eagle from Akidu Valley event. The secret is to have better awareness and click mobs just as they start phasing into existence (before the nameplate appears). Also most faggots always leave some of them untagged in their packs so just pull them.
you need a ranged weapon though.

The undead area event morphs are going to be harder because all guilds set up their quests there.
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>>500206741
why are you so angry
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i wish the combat in this game was slower and more hard hitting, using a staff theres barely any spells that have any casting time, im just supposed to run around spamming random buttons? none of the attacks hardly feel like they have any differences from each other and it hardly matters if they did because my mana never even comes close to running out and every single enemy ive ever seen is piss easy to kill
is this what all gook MMOs are like? just mindlessly easy brainless combat with everything else being extremely convoluted like equipment crafting and levelling everything up and all the crap i need to do all of it
i guess ive noticed a trend in modern games in general where the complexity is all in the aspects of the game that arent fun, where im staring at a fucking menu all the time instead of playing the actual game
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I'm using some random blue helmet I got from leveling and already leveled to 9 but the cheapest helmets on the auction house to put literally any trait on it costs 700 lucent. Ugh, and I have to do this twice for every single piece of gear. Ok now I see why people pay to win, this is going to take literally years for me to do, even for blue gear.
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>>500234354
>is this what all gook MMOs are like?
Yes, they love to spaz around mashing buttons and shooting 10000 missiles out of their asses while teleporting across the world.
Imagine how atrocious PvP is.
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>>500234545
It baffles me why people like Diablo, Path of Exile and BDO gameplay. Shit is just spamming nukes and teleporting constantly. I get that feeling powerful is fun, but that shit is just boring. Kind of like how using cheats in games just devalues the whole thing. It doesn't even feel thrilling when you become godlike. PoE is the peak of that retardation gameplay. No wonder all their players tend to be extremely autistic, even by 4ch standards.
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>>500234354
I miss when koreans made slower paced games. idk who wanted this stuff or who demanded it and it can't be korean players because they still play lineage 2 and other old ass p2w games. I can think of any early to mid 2000s korean mmo and the pacing of those games was so much slower. even early tera wasn't this autistic. I really miss it. what happened to korean devs
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>>500234354
You can modify spells to have a cast time for increased damage, one of the common staff/bow builds relies heavily on 3 casted spells as your heavy hitters
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>>500234806
>>500234989
Aion had the perfect timing I'd say. Pretty similar to vanilla/TBC WoW which got the combat just right.

You can't even make the argument that these turbo speed gookslop games promote skill expression because almost nothing has any windup, cast time or even visible animation and there's no global cooldown either so you can't really react to anything.
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>>500234806
BDO combat used to be incredibly slow. I'm not kidding, go look at something from 2016 and what it looks like now. They are literally almost two completely different games. It's why I can't go back, the pre awakening days were so much better even with horseback casters mogging everyone. The combat was sorta the same but really it's a stark difference. Last time I checked it out was I think in 2022 and after trying to decide what class I wanted to play and looking at youtube videos I noped out and lost all desire to even finish the download.
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>>500234545
man. fuck this
this looked like the best mmo to come out in a while but i cant deny it anymore the combat is just fucking gay
why did this game have to be made by fucking retarded gooks
i just want a good medieval fantasy MMO to to play, wtf are gooks doing trying to design medieval fantasy, this is based on european culture, fuck off gooks
i was playing new world but apparently those devs are retarded plus the world is kinda boring looking compared to this one, and all the NPCs are nigs in afros with early american settler clothes on, its fucking retarded, i hate the early america style of the game everyone looks like a fucking pilgrim lmao
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>>500234806
Poe just feels like shit all around. The hp disparity between mobs and bosses is just so stupid that it saps all the fun out of the game.
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>>500234354
Mate, play monster hunter wilds when it comes out, it sounds like you want that kind of game and not an mmo
mmos are not the strategic hard hitting combat it sounds like you want. mmos are use all your abilities so they're on cooldown to maximize usage
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fuck man, heavy attack traits for 10 lucent... its fucking over. i cant even save up 500 lucent in a month the next next battle pass at this rate.
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weapon traits are worthless cause you can upgrade the traits on one weapon type with the traits from any other weapon type, once you've unlocked the trait that is
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>>500236452
Why would blues ever hold value after the first 2 weeks now that everyone is rolling in them?
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>>500237071
even heavy attack on purps are under 75 lucent now.
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>>500237506
not here
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>>500237559
FUCK. did i roll on a botnigger server or something? i am forever bricked or you are posting a misleading picture
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>>500237559
>>500237774
My server also looks like this JP-Alexia
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>>500237774
this is just NAE non early access
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>>500235241
black desert used to have a lot of those but over time they removed all skill expression and made everything braindead, so that's a good example of what you're talking about. it used to have a reputation of being a button masher but now it has literally become that, everyone just rotates their absurd number of protected ccs until the other person desyncs or does something stupid. there isn't any more thinking involved, you don't even have to consider what the other person is doing as long as you stay moving around at light speed like a spastic staying permanently protected and make sure you throw your ccs out constantly for that moment your opponent is unlucky. even ninja, who used to be one of the harder and more skillful classes to play, has been dumbed down to something that only rotates protection and ccs and he no longer has to pay attention to what his opponent is doing anymore. it would be like if streetfighter turned into a game where you just shadowbox and mash all of your skills until your opponent is dead without having to read what they're doing.

it's so stupid, I've unironically given up on the idea that korea might make something good and not utterly destroy it years down the line with powercreep and their insistence on ramping up the pacing of their games to nonsensical levels for no reason at all
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>>500238754
Retards defend this kind of combat and shit on tab target even though vanilla wow perfected MMO combat.
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>>500235156
you do this when you upgrade skills or whatever?
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>>500239007
>vanilla wow perfected MMO combat.
Tab target is shit, WoW is shit.
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>>500238754
I remember dueling a lot in BDO, learning when the use frontal block skills at what situation against which class, learn they weaknesses and it felt so satisfying and rewarding when you did well.
The combat was slower, more methodical and you could punish people.

Now it's like you say every single class just zooms zooms around at the light of speed, they have perma super armor and there's no way to punish them nor do they have openings.
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>>500239259
See a perfect example of the said retard.
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>>500239259
It depends. I think modern T&L combat (not its early mobile trash form) fits reasonably well for its intended design. Combat like Blue Protocol, BDO, Tera and the like aren't made to scale well for large pvp engagements. You need something less flashy and more basic.
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>>500239941
They'll shit on wow but so far no MMO came even close to how clearly all the skills are displayed, visually and through sound and how there's an opportunity window to counter pretty much everything as well as creative ways to do so.
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>>500239496
>my class had 3 seconds of super armor on a long cooldown
>every other class could just sit in it all day
>had to actually git gud
>felt amazing shitting on people when they thought they would just destroy me because my class sucked
Wish that game was still fun
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why do so many people who play this game just slam their fist on the keyboard instead of coming up with a name
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Tab targeting is fine. This games tab targeting is fine it just works counter intuitively it works in a counter clockwise circle radiating out from you and ignoring off screen which is retarded but i guess they wanted to be special or some shit
Just remember that pressing tab is going to go left instead of right like every other game in the universe
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>>500240658
The ones with the same outfit and names like that are bots the rest are just retards. The bot script is so bad it equips the exact same items for every single one they all have that helmet and jacket and a sns
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>>500241005
Almost always bow/staff or sns/bow
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>>500241005
oh yeah i thought i noticed a lot of characters seemed to be exactly the same and even had the same faces
why are there so many bots in this game holy shit
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>>500241790
>why are there so many bots in this game holy shit
is this your first mmo?
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>>500240658
Last night at the observatory I saw a bunch of non gibberish names, but they were clearly bots. All same outfits, same place, but with compound English names. IngridMcHolmes or something like that. Endless ones exactly of the same type. I think NCSoft has finally started banning them, and now this is their way to experiment getting around their detection method. But honestly there are millions that played and quit, taking good names forever out of the pool, not to mention deleted characters don't get their names back for reuse, which also complicates things.
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>>500241790
this game aint got shit on bots ark
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>>500242382
they should make their bot detection thing auto flag you for pvp always so people can gank you for fun. id love to just stop and btfo some botnigga on my way to other things.
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>>500239257
After level 25 you start to get skill specialization points, you'll have 100 total at lv50
You can spend these to enhance skills in different ways. Some are add cast time, some make them aoe, some make them so you can move while casting, some are just cooldown reduction/damage increase.

Easy to reset and change around and play around with, I don't think it's going to change the game in your opinion but just putting it out there that there are some skills that become 'cast' skills if you so desire
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>>500242536
Yeah I've seen quite a few with 'real' names but they do the same bot combos and stuff. There was at least 2 ban waves so far from what i can tell.
I don't really understand how hard it is for them to have someone stand in the desert and watch the 4000000 bots travel the same path but i guess they don't care or want to leave it up to ai or some shit
Not sure if there's mods in game probably not
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>>500242676
Random aside, you can usually find them still farming during conflict bosses or dominion events and such. It's nice to follow them into the zone and murder them all. Probably 50 of my total kills are random bots
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blue squadron
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEmpcDc-e1s

its over bros, they dont like the game
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>>500245569
>starts video by clearing his throat into the mic and hitting the mic on everything in it's surrounding
Have some god damn professionalism
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>>500245569
You suck, your life sucks and this video sucks. Delete your channel nobody wants to hear anything from you EVER AGAIN!
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>>500245569
>why give me something that makes the game less tedious without having to work for it
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Is it even an upgrade? Considering my damage scales with max hp and the welfare sword has a massive amount of it plus stun chance for pvp. I'd need to drop like 800 lucent on trait unlocks for it too.
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>>500246680
yes, it's a huge upgrade
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>>500246301
>creating problems
>selling solutions
hes right, gook mmo design is garbage
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>>500246907
I lose:
>24 hit
>4 skill damage boost
>334 stun chance
>1270 hp
I gain:
>15 bonus from hitting 40 dex
>whatever cooldown reduction it has at +9, like 10%?
>the special ability.
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>>500246907
dont listen to this fag
>>500246680
very marginally better, but nowhere near worth starting over for it. not even close.
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>>500247146
>the special ability
heavy hit is the best stat in the game
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>>500247149
I'm mostly interested in the cooldown reduction as that'll shave anywhere from 1 to 12 seconds from my skills.
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>>500247149
>starting over
the fuck do you mean starting over? he can just feed his current weapon into it
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>>500239007
you're not wrong and it took me years to finally say fuck it, I'm gonna try a tab target mmo. I was not disappointed, in fact I was so enamored by it that I gave up completely on action combat mmos. there's potential but it will never be realized because koreans are stupid and new world style action combat is terrible and ugly
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>>500247431
He's talking about the starting over with the traits, not levelling up the weapon retard
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>>500247962
and get a blessing stack?
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>>500247962
>>500248026
I already transferred. Using skills more often is too big to pass on.
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>>500248193
holy bricked, you were even warned
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>>500248530
retard, resistance weapons are quite literally only good for lithograph book filling
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>>500248672
They served me well though since it took quite some time to get this and I still have no secondary boss weapon.
Whoever tells people to just hold onto blues forever until their bis is a fucking retard because you get so many copies of those resistance weapons that it doesn't matter cause you'll transfer onto your good weapon with a lot of blessing and you got to enjoy the game meanwhile.
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>>500248026
>blessing stack
of which he got the a blessing stack on his heroic broadsword as well, so yes he is starting over from the same point he started with the heroic broadsword
not to mention the purp is not fully traited so if he transferred it over he's not getting maximum blessing
holy fuck shut up about shit you don't understand retard
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>>500249884
The difference is that investing in a good weapon is worth it and investing in a bad weapon isn't worth it. The sooner he swapped the better.
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>>500249979
>investing in a good weapon is worth it
i fully agree, so transfer it when you have enough materials to actually trait it up so that it is actually better instead of swapping sooner and having worse stats for it
but who the fuck cares in the end, no content is so hard that it matters. the point is you were wrong
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>>500249979
Its so marginal it doesn't matter. I like Toubleks bow more, so I pumped that one. Who cares.
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My lucent is gone but I'm fine for now.
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>nooo you can't just buy contract coin chests and improve your character!!!
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>>500245569
this is the dumbest video i've ever seen
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so where the niggers is the dragon blood jasper?
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>>500251220
I'm convinced it's a troll video
Some of his other videos appear to have some legitimate thought to them in d2 builds and planning
And then his TL review is
>why do they just give you morph instead of making you work for it
>look at this wide open beach with non hostile mobs at level 5
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>>500250854
they are going to release a super ultra slutty hot skin in a couple of days for only a week and you wont be able to buy it. super ultra mega bricked
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>>500251878
I don't care about slutmogs and I already have my cosmetics covered. Can always swipe for skins anyway.
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>>500251843
its well known that arpg players, specifically the diablo and pooe types are mentally ill.
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>>500251878
Don't tease me, I just bought the trinity outfit
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>>500251618
They're down by the lava.
>>500251878
I hope so. I need cuter outfits!
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>>500252705
>They're down by the lava.
i've scanned the whole place ten times over multiple days and even consulted r*ddit but there's nothing on the supposed spawn point or anywhere else
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>>500252705
i thought this anime blob quit
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>>500252924
maru quit not kitsani
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i will forever be 2500 ilvl because i keep using my lucent for skins
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>trying to complete litographs
>all the overworld green drops are ridiculously low
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>>500252830
I was just there earlier doing the same thing. There's a ton of them everywhere, you just have to go really down close to the lava. Maybe try floor 6 in case you've been on 5?
>>500252924
I'm still playing and the Lottie guild has rebranded!
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>>500253724
Can you post your ingame character, does it look like the animu at least?
>rebranded lottie guild
I'm on JP anyway so I'm just here for the good discussions
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>every single book are devs being depressed and begging/teasing players to appreciate the slave work they put in
Korea really is a dystopian hell.
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>>500253724
Did you at least make your character look like the anime blob you keep posting? You better have, or I will be upset.
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wish we could make lolis...
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>>500254194
Post bussy right the fuck now!
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>>500254272
>Elins...
We've regressed
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was fun while it lasted
later bros
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>>500255856
Sad to see you go bro, have fun.
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>>500255856
>not posting played time
What are you hiding huh
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>>500255856
who were you?
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>>500253724
no luck, there's none at all
maybe my server is just bricked since it's always having issues with this kind of shit
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>>500127276
wasn't lineage 2 buy to play at first though
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>>500245406
>blue squadron
You mean this guy?
https://streamable.com/ooqct0
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I need Kowazan crossbow for my build...
It's over...
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>>500258421
hes a bdo guy, idk why he brought him up here.
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>>500259068
>he's a bdo guy
he's a throne and liberty guy now
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>>500255856
I'll miss you
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>guild dies right after I get kicked
>biggest guild in the server gets in trouble for botting

troons and faggots on suicide watch.
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>>500261158
wenie seethe

reminder you were kicked before some BR tard who cant speak english
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>>500261408
tick tock troonie only a matter of time before this guild dies
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>>500261728
some BR guy who couldn't muster together a coherent sentence was more desirable than you.
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>>500261823
i must be pretty desirable when you've got the thread on auto refresh. i'd be more flattered of you sniffing my asshhole if you told me who you were troonie.
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>i must be pretty desirable
big doubt
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>>500261865
You were just a little annoying nigga from the get go.
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>>500261158
Keep coping, big guilds bot but they also spend thousands on legit lucent purchases, so they'll get a light slap and go right back to their bullshit.
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>>500262010
it's ok. you don't wanna out yourself as some dent headed troon that i've shit on constantly. i get it
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>>500262138
>Obsessed with troons
Little chud gonna have a melt. Maybe try to be less annoying next mmo or you will get again and again like always.
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>>500262295
>still doesn't wanna say
it must be so embarrassing to know me by name and yet you're too scared to say who you are
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>>500262389
>you can't just post anonymously on 4chan
Back to bleddit
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>>500232796
there's no high level players doing the level 10 event nigga, they get nothing out of it and they get scaled down too btw
cryin ass nigga
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STOP fighting. STOP bullying. We are all frens here.
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>>500247146
You can also put 6 points from dex into strength or whatever now too
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>>500250854
Next time only buy the trait to unlock the trait on the weapon then buy a bunch of cheap blue traits to shovel into it and pray
Now put 6 dex in str
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I'll be waiting for you in room 1 in the Kastleton Inn anon be there tonight.
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this looks so fucking bad holy shit
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>>500261728
Now every time someone shitposts they will blame you for it instead of the other ones they keep changing every week next it will be br guy
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are there any open world non-coop dungeon spots to farm gears to sell
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>>500263971
there were players level 25-50 doing this shit just above that first city you go to, where all the goblins are lmao
i saw their fucking levels as they were ganking goblins everywhere
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>>500273314
your level gets scaled down once you enter the event area
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im still waiting for kita to appear in my dms...
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too tired to play this game
i just goon
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>every guild needs discord activity
fuck discord and fuck wypipo
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how is this game compared to lost ark
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>>500283160
better
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little nigga is bumping the thread single handely just to keep it sinking below page 9

for free
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>>500261158
they weren't the biggest guild though?
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>>500280108
>guild asks me to join
>sends me a discord link
>need vc interview before joining
top kek
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>1 character for dailies is too fast
>2 characters for dailies is too tedious
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>>500286594
3x dungeon = max 15-20min
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>retards in arena letting healer run around and wasting all their cds on tanks
BASED
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>do some unranked arena for weekly quests
>other team has people with traited bellandir gear
nice meme gayme
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>>500288594
>3x dungeon = max 15-20min
if you're running with guildies, sure
if you're matchmaking, gl
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>>500290384
dont even have a guild, just random matchmaking
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>>500290864
>dont even have a guild
brick sis...
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george floyd?
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what the fuck does normie guilds do in the endgame content since this shit is centered around no-lifer whale zerg guilds
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>>500292657
quit the game
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Oh boy time to log in and do my 2-3 daily Halloween dungeons
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america is such a dead fucking region only bots are left europe is full to the brim 24/7 what happened american bros game is not to your taste? not call of duty?
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>>500294242
sauce?
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>>500294242
>a f2p game is popular amongst europoors
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another day of not getting any dimensional essence
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https://tl.plaync.com/ko-kr/board/update/view?articleId=6720c0307f296c6f44835e0f
kr patchnotes looking good
>dr on stuns/cc
woooooow
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>>500297402
How will they rebalance GS though because it operates entirely around its stun and 2 burst skills? Even their weapons work around the stun lmao.
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>>500297402
>new level cap
>bns style soul grid
>more power creep
>aah i must consooom dailyslop
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>>500299586
looks like they're trying to change it so you can't be chain stunned to death, if a GS user gets opening on you, you still gonna eat a guilliotine though
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Imagine playing on na instead of EU. Just transfer to EU already before your accounts are too bricked
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>>500301062
yeah and then you just walk away from him cause they have nothing aside the stun and the 2 big bonks
the weapon will be dead in the water unless they remake it
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>>500301593
>they only have the best mobility in the game and able to kill you in 2 hits
>but that's all they got so they are weak xD
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>>500301820
>kill you in 2 hits
if you're an undergeared shitter maybe lmao
they have one double dash and the jump stun but have zero survivability of any sort
even daggers are infinitely more tanky
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>>500301820
>run zero melee endurance
>run barely any health
>play as a full evasion rat hehe I'm so cool!
>cry when you get one shot by a heavy crit that goes through
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>>500302021
You do know every GS user either runs daggers or SnS which gives them them insane survivability and MORE mobility on top of their good mobility?
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wait full evasion healer sounds fun to play ngl
too bad I already swapped so if i tried I would be even more broke than I am
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>>500302320
>every GS user either runs daggers or SnS
Not me! What a silly argument though because you're just proving him right regarding GS being an one trick pony. Yeah daggers make everything they interact with broken.
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>make Xbow-Dagger alt to nab sauro chests at night
>try camouflage cloak
>stealth is actually supposed to break when taking any damage
>not only does this not happen AT ALL, but you retain stealth and CC immunity for 3 seconds after exiting stealth
>now realize why I can never find the spinfaggot in time to CC him out of it before he's done raping my entire guild
>niggers, and I repeat NIGGERS, in this thread kept telling me to "just stun the spin to win" when it literally cannot be done because the dude is invulnerable to CC and invisible for the entire duration of the spin
also
>1800CP, have already wiped multiple full parties in night dungeons before discovering this trick, just from the xbow damage from my shitty blue xbows
>all top kill scores on my server are xbows
delete this piece of shit weapon IMMEDIATELY
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>>500303181
It's almost as if this dagger stealth lingering was meant to work with their own single target kit and not a giga aoe nuke from another weapon.
Meanwhile if you're trying to use the spin in the intended way
>need to walk into melee range
>need to channel it for the full duration without getting interrupted
Dagger nerfs when?
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>GS is balanced because if you pixel perfect Q their 2 stuns you can maybe survive if you're lucky
>XBOW is unbalanced because of their 1min CD spin that you can 100% nullify by using a Q
????
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>>500301820
>Cast a skill
>Enemy walks away
>Skill gets cancelled
>Try to use INSTANT skill while moving
>Gets cancelled
Nice op weapon
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>>500303702
>1min CD spin that you can 100% nullify by using a Q
please play another weapon for 5 minutes in PVP
blocking does NOTHING against the spin, it depletes stamina in 0.5s, I've had my shield-gs tanks get wiped by it when they didn't have the shield wall ability available
I'm on 900 endurance and blocking does absolutely nothing against any of the Xbow abilities
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>>500303976
>Skill gets cancelled
and put on cooldown of 20 seconds too lmao
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>>500269090
Hot. When tnl finally becomes viable for erp, I wonder where the hotspot will be?
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>becoming kit's invincible healslut for arena...
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>>500304727
I'm transferring my dagger/wand to vidya... the spot is already mine...
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Server dead
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>>500304835
sorry babe i have a bow ready so i just need a wand now then im locked in
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>>500304835
Dagger wand is actually shit at healing unless you run full wand skills, in which case why not run a weapon which does more from range?
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>>500306067
eh, I'd rather have abilities like sleep and stealth that be a full on healsissy only from afar
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>>500239496
You might not like the balance state and some class decisions, but the complainers are essentially just that. You don't have to like that game -- it still has the most skill expressive combat by an extremely long shot.
>inb4 blah blah this specific skill, this specific class and its gaps
Don't care, it's apples to oranges with every single other game. It's the best, by far. You got old and slow.
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>>500307309
poor bait
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is there a way to AFK farm in this game
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>>500307474
Fine, I'll repeat myself. BDO's combat filters out bad players who need to fall back to tab target and slower pacing for comfort. Point to the desyncing and super armors all you like. Can't hang, prob never could. Trash the rose-tinteds, you're shit.
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>>500307653
>tab target
The only kind of combat that works in the MMO genre.
Your watered down fighting game combat with none of the intricacies is not good. It doesn't even work for anything bigger than 1v1.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI_8_KkvnbU

>actually good things
i'm pleasantly surprised
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>>500309793
lowkey poggers
especially the world boss drop thing; feels so bad/a waste of time to go to those rn
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Downloaded this game on a whim and decided to try it out. Got through the first part of the tutorial, until you get to pick the name of your character. I went through like a dozen different names and they're all taken. Are names in this game global, not server wide? It's not like I'm picking names like Bob or Drizzt or Illidan.
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>>500309793
>no mention about world events still being bugged giving no rewards.
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>>500313704
They are global because of server transfers and when you delete a character the name becomes permanently unreusable
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>>500311363
I've done well over 40 world bosses and haven't gotten a single piece of gear. I'm also a geared damage dealer.
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>bow users get a 3000 shield whenever a weaken effect is applied on them
>I apply a weaken effect nearly every attack I do
Yeah... balanced
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>>500314663
Bow is the most busted standalone weapon by a long shot.
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>>500309793
Tldw?
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>>500296485
>>500301156
kek classic burger cope
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>>500317018
>t. troon sitting in a guild of 4 people
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>>500309793
Looking good, but sadly people dont care about mmos anymore
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>>500309793
Good changes but honeymoon is already over so is it too late
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>>500318134
as opposed to sitting in a guild full of normies?
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>>500318889
damn......... xhe got you there, sis...... take the L, >>500318134
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>>500303046
why dont you play a healer with dagger and let us know about it?
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gaia break before or after cyclone? before seems to be better but enemies keep CCing me
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>>500314663
that shit just got nerfed super hard in the latest KR patch notes, we getting the balance update mid november or something afaik
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>>500318572
honeymoon might be over for the casuals, i'm still drinking pina coladas on the beach, loving this game
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>>500314663
>every time
its like a 10% chance when maxed or some shit pussy
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>>500318889
>he doesn't know
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>>500082703
Never follow maxroll/metabattle guides.
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>>500323496
its also 3,000 shield.... 3,000........
1/3rd of 1 attack
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my guild is dead. is it possible to solo a guild boss?
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i guess this thread is also dead. rip tnl, 1 month lifespan was not bad
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>mass deleted
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>>500318889
This guy destroyed the NA troons to the point they couldn't argue back.
>>500323506
>Owned
>No counter argument
Kek
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>>500328913
>This guy destroyed the NA troons to the point they couldn't argue back.
Funnily enough the person who let the normies in unrestricted was a European. Xhe was a double agent all along...
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>>500329947
They still play with said normies
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>>500327553
nyo... i spent 1k on this game. it wasnt supposed to die this fast
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Can I have Abudance Food, Mastery Report and some sort of food (Spooky Pumpkin Pie) on at the same time?
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>>500307653
Literally none of that matters. Autists pretending action combat is what matters in an MMO, lmao.
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>>500331717
COOMERS GET THE ROPE
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>>500331540
yes u can have 2 of the hween foods if they dont overwrite the same slot as well as the book and abundance
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Bros I don't know which crossbow to use for my gs/xbow meme build. Ideally it'd be the Kowazan one but I can't get that and the other 3 seem to be about the same.
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Whats the best Site for builds?
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>>500331872
ropes of cum?
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>EU world chat
>people talking shit about Jews
>na world chat
>they bend the knee to black people
LMAO
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dominion events are such retarded shit
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WHY IS IT FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO TARGET ANYBODY IN PVP
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>do Orc talisman event
>get 500k sollant in rewards and 2 eagles I can sell for 250k sollant each
wtf this is broken
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>do fire orc event
>no enchanted orcs EVER spawn so you can't complete the codex quest
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>>500323751
the one time this retarded tranny says something agreeable and janny blows up the post
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>whaleniggers are abusing kill ranking to pass eclipse back and forth which resets its cooldown so they can use it every junobote spawn
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>game has no dance emote
>has really no emotes at all
>no RP interaction with furniture
>no hand holding or other kino stuff like blue protocol
no wonder this game is so trash. its so anti social and the opposite of comfy
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is there anything to choose or go for unlockstones
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>>500345771
Always stones unless it's some world boss loot (is that even possible?).
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>dropped last night
Alright, I kind of get this is a pvp staff, of which I am not really doing any pvp
So my question is, when the next tier of gear comes out which is also apparently purple colour epic, is all of that gear make the current gear we have obsolete, or does a staff like this hold it's usefulness?
I'm tossing up between do I keep it and invest into it in the future when I am ready to pvp, or sell it now while it is in it's prime and worth something?
I would be selling the extract fyi not the staff itself, so I might get 2k lucent
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> Increased number of Peace Field Boss Portals
> Added field boss equipment selection box
> Outside dungeon portals during eclipse for field bosses
NICE
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> Removing the PvP from a PvP-centric game
NICE
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>>500350123
its only for peace bosses jim dont worry you will still be able to up your kill count in conflict
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>>500350123
What they're doing has nothing to do with pvp and all with being annoying kids.
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ABLOOBLOOBLOO I CANT 1v200 IN ZERGS MY CLASS IS USELESS

why are greatniggers such entitled losers?
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>>500350123
I'm sure it was intended and now they are removing it to please all the scrubs. Isn't the same thing happening in korea since release?
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>>500350490
>can't do the supposed pvp content of the game
>hurr why do you have to be mad?
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>>500350525
>scrubs
The exact same alliance of whales blocking every single conflict and open dungeon peace boss through darkness cooldown reset exploit. Every single day.
If it's a field boss they sometimes don't even bother killing the boss and just continue farming random people trying to get a tag for their codex quest for the whole hour.
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>>500346697
You can get stuff like the ring that gives all stats that's BiS for everyone, but that a really really low chance
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>ask legitimate game question
>no replies

>bait pvp post
>hook line and sinker
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>>500350619
>NYOOO I CANT BE THE MAIN CHARACTER IN THE ZERG VS ZERG THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT
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>>500350619
>we will be getting battlegrounds and all kind of more fair and not zerg based PvP
>"NOOOO MASSIVE ZERG IS THE ONLY PVP INGAME!!!"
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>>500350796
The reset is wrong yeah I agree, farming bots too
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>>500351042
what question did you ask i'll answer it for you lil nigga

if you need the gear then get it and if not then get the stones
the only thing you get no matter what is the archboss ring
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>>500351135
>meanwhile shit like dagger/xbow or dagger/wand shine in both zergs and small scale pvp much more than gs anything and aren't getting nerfed
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There is no use for eclipse now, why even have the stupid spell? Just fucking delete it at this point. T&L devs constantly caving to crying bitches will kill this game.
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>>500351398
>sns presses shield block skill
>they die instantly to their own damage while the sns takes literally no damage
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>>500351131
GS is bad for 1v1 too btw. It only worked when people had shit gear and got blown up in 2 hits. Nowadays basically any other weapon is more solid. GS just has no damage scaling to speak of. Their shit hits for the same amount as a fresh 50, and when geared you're just increasing your heavy attack chance but they lack the burst to kill anything even half-geared.
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>>500351704
no, retard. you're fighting people that are stacking melee defense and only melee defense

every weapon experiences this
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>>500351280
See >>500347569
I didn't actually expect any response desu as I don't believe anyone here played any of the KR version so probably have very little experience with the incoming gear progression that goes beyond the tier we're at
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>>500351398
>xbow users fart if you look at them
>hard countered by a single bow passive
>only one damage ability on a 60sec CD
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>>500351857
T2 makes t1 outside of archboss weapons obsolete outside of feeding blessing
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>>500351635
That's a shield skill though, not GS.
>>500351836
They just don't scale bro. Go try it for yourself.
>>500351961
Yeah bow is the by far the most broken base weapon for damage, and dagger for damage support.
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>>500352012
T2 when?
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What's the point of gearing up now when all gear will soon become totally obsolete?
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>>500352114
I think they said T2 dungeons will be coming in december
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>>500352086
the point is crossbow is trash vs anyone with a brain
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>>500352147
PvP
no point in going past the minimum requirement if you are a PVEfag
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>>500352281
It's still leagues better than GS because it has actual niches it excels in.
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>>500352376
yeah like dying instantly without being able to do anything when a GS clicks on them
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>>500352216
there are a lot of T2 equipment. are we getting everything?
https://nc.tldb.info/db/items/armor/top/page/1?rarity=6
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>>500352291
good luck getting into any T2 dungeons when party board gearscore is 3000 min and you're still sitting on 2400 because why go past any more when you can already clear the T1 dungeons
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>>500352461
Dagger/xbow is the prime zerg spec for bombing though.
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>>500352508
>not matchmaking
lol
lmao
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>>500352478
Damn those weapons look fun as fuck. Boosting many different skills and all.
Now if only the game didn't fucking force you into one piece of gear because of trait and growthstone cancer.
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>>500352478
T2 fashion looks nice
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>>500352508
I already see absolute retards setting up 3100 gs req runs for the current dungeons.
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>>500352538
no it's not
sleep bomb flashwave is
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>>500352625
>thinking you won't be kicked
>>500352872
>waaah people who spend time pushing their gearscore want to party with other people who put in the effort
No shit, people don't want to carry minimum requirement people like >>500352291 does that honestly surprise you?
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>>500352872
I saw those kinds of retards over two weeks ago
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>>500353180
>3100
>for normal dungeon you clear by swinging your dick once
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>>500353282
>completely missing the point
Why am I not surprised
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>>500353180
as long as you are not a sperg no one you kick, you mongoloid. and can you even see the gear score of other players? pretty sure that you can't
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>>500353360
Personally I put a 2200 or so req just to filter fresh 50's who haven't even upgraded their welfare gear. Anything above is pure dementia.
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>>500353408
will kick you*
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>>500352849
>not a single revealing armor piece
Maybe in Ancestral
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pretty sure in korea t2 dungeons have min req of 3500
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>>500353613
isn't it 2.5k?
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>>500353613
Our current whale limit is like 3.6k so no way they'd do that here.
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>>500353408
Nah can't see anything other than weapons and traits if they're not sus hidden
Lets just see what the required gear score is to actually enter T2 dungeons
iirc the T1 dungeons in korea weren't 1600, it was lowered for global
T2 dungeons minimum gearscore to enter could be 2800 and then minimum requirement people sitting on 2300ish will be scrambling
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>>500352478
>Devastating Chain
Chain Hook additionally attacks 3 enemies in a 5m radius around the target
I want this so fucking badly
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TL dungeons are ridiculous. even T2 and T3
just don't miss the block and do the simple mechs
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Are the t2 dungeons even hard?
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>>500354524
tier 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aa80XtvTJA
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>>500354304
What pisses me off about the pve content in this game are the constant interrupts, knockbacks, stuns, etc.
A lot of this shit is on random timers and instant so you can't even try to predict and it sucks to have your big cooldown skills interrupted.
The lack of cc diminishing returns don't help
The content is easy but super fucking annoying.
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>>500354638
>300k hp on trash mobs
holy power creep gooks
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>>500354304
T1 dungeon mechs are fun by comparison to a majority of mmos and I'm tired of pretending they're not
>Duke Magna
Fun as fuck, passing sheep through fire rings, jumping over aoe blasts, racing to the red pillars to save your rooted team mates
>Toublek
Being a rat and burrowing to avoid aoe blasts before you get munched
>Rex
coordinated lever pulling and glide morphing

If these aren't fun mechs then you're impossible to please, by comparison another games boss encounter would consist of "2 adds spawn and tank has to pick them up"
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>>500353613
its 2500 for base Tier 2 dungeons

3000 for max difficulty challenge mode 1, 2 tier dungeons

3500 for tier 3 dungeons
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>>500354871
I'm not talking about enjoyment degree but how easy they are.
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>>500354638
>At boss in 4 mins
At this point why even have a dungeon and not just a boss rush mode?
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>>500355065
Trash doesn't even drop anything so there's all the incentive to skip it whenever possible too.
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>>500355065
that would definitely be more enjoyable.
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>>500355037
They're balanced around 1600 but most players are above 2000 when they hit 50. I myself was at like 2.2k+ just from getting my welfare blue litographs.
It also doesn't help that you need to run them a trillion times to get anything so slowing them down would suck unless the drop rates and pity chest reqs are lowered.
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>>500355037
give an example of mechs you want, because if it's anything like 1 person screws up and wipes the entire raid then you can pack up your shit and leave

>>500355065
it's sped up idiot
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>>500353726
a bit more
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>>500353726
>>500356328
I'm 3.3k and I'm completely f2p
I could push it higher but just see no point
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>>500356328
It'd be much cooler if you didn't play metashit.
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>>500356521
>doesn't post his own build
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>>500350340
>If I lose, that means you are an annoying kid
Ok, chum.
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Yeah I queue as the tank in random dungeons as dps

you're welcome
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>>500356520
I'm 3.1k as f2p on europoor server where you can't make any lucent and will likely hit 3.2k soon.
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what happened to spear and axe?
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>>500356521
meta as in gear or as in class? xbow/daggy not that good in large scale, the spin2win shit stops working once you run into geared and organized guilds/alliances, gotta focus more on playing as "assassin"
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>>500356657
Literally doesn't matter in most dungeon. You only need a tank for cursed wasteland.
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>>500356657
Yeah I queue as the dps in random dungeons as tank

you're welcome
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>>500356809
you dont need a tank for cursed wasteland either
in fact anyone with dagger is better because they can solo the mechanic without thinking at all
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>You want to know how I know TL is for me?
no dei body type 2s, no rainbow hair, no pronouns. just a straight looking white guy delivering a message
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>>500357057
>not some tranny freak playing the game badly on a controller while talking about the art department
thank god
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im genuinely pretty hyped for the future of the game bwos
i just hate evasion as a mechanic
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>UI 0%
>Sound Effect 0%

Yep. It's comfy fishing time.
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>>500356328
You love posting your gear here, but still don't want to "interact with /vg/ " in-game
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>>500357192
It's sad that I know exactly the D4 video you're talking about
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>>500357203
looks like AGS actually has some influence over NCSoft, probably because the game is practically dead in KR, which is a good thing for us cause NCSoft grind all their games into the dust
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>>500357246
i have a guild i'm very happy with on EU, it's full of normies and they loot council'd me a phantom wolf mask when i was very new to the guild

i might wanna transfer to another guild later when i have more time on my hands, but it's gonna be a competitive pvp guild, not some sperg guild from 4chan with 10 members, a tranny discord and airing all their drama in /vg/

no offense
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>>500357305
yeah i was thinking of that shit, RIP Blizzard
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>>500357334
It's a VERY good thing it got fucked up in Korea because it means that it is entirely dependent on the west to survive and thrive, which means they now have to listen to us first. No more second class treatment, no more stupid whiny gooks fucking us over. Now its OUR turn.
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>Great sword is imba!
>Crossbow is imba!
So just play GS/Xbow then?
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>>500357498
Why are you posting and bragging about your gear here then if you dislike the 4chan community? Genuinely curious as you seem to enjoy being with normalfags and like them.
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>>500357037
You do need somebody in melee range and keeping the threat on him. He also hits very hard with his basic attacks.
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>>500357671
I literally do. It's fun but not that good. It does put into perspective the fact that those weapons alone aren't great and what enables broken interactions are daggers.
Daggers break other weapons.
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>>500357905
whoever has aggro runs up to him
its the easiest dungeon to no tank
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>>500357873
i love the 4chan community, been here since my teens, i just don't wanna be in a 4chan guild, i've tried that shit before in other games
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>>500358052
If there's no guy with max threat in his melee range he will start to spam the aoe cone attack nonstop, wiping everybody.
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>>500358208
if your healer is trash
you can even 6 dps it
it's the easiest dungeon in the game i dont know what to say
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>>500358331
>outheal 15k aoe spam every second
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>>500358391
what part of "walk up into the boss if you have aggro" is hard
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>>500357873
4chan =/= 4chan guilds kek, the whole point of 4chan is to try to discuss anonymously, not putting faces to the people
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they should permaban the niggers exploiting random queue this shit is obnoxious
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>>500358497
You are as anonymous in-game in a guild as you are posting your character every time you get the chance in this thread
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>>500358497
and voices even less so, and guilds always have drama, and 4chan guilds tend to air their drama, leading to more drama, i fucking hate drama.
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I want to play Throne and Liberty but I still have some cuckie Lost Ark homework to do before reset... help me bwos...
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>>500358156
This is perfectly normal and reasonable stance to have as I do it as well
And yet people can't accept it for some reason
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>>500359068
>still playing lost ark
At least post some coomer avatars if you're going to talk about that shit here
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>>500359068
>Lost Ark
escape that shit before it's too late
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>>500358156
Same. I'm on an early access server and I decided to stay on it. I enjoy the shitposts here and I even partake a little myself, but I don't think I could ever bring it out of anonymity.
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>>500357334
>cause NCSoft grind all their games into the dust
unlike AGS who has only put out huge successes
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Is there gonna be a new battle pass right after this one?
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>>500359343
believe it or not, NCSoft are worse than AGS, and so far AGS are steering NCSoft in the right direction
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>>500359438
I trust Amazon far more than NCSoft. Amazon might not be a competent game developer, but one thing I will say is that the players demanded no p2w for New World, and Amazon has kept true to their word on that.
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>>500359369
I hope so, and if they're doing fomo right there will be
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none of the dungeons in this game are hard
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>>500359886
yet, and still there are plenty of retards fucking up in our current dungos

i also like the originality of the dungeon mechanics, even though they are relatively easy once you know them
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>>500359886
Some of them are quite hard if you do it with intended gear 1600~ GS.
They have more mechanics than even the harder fights in FFXIV and WoW
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>>500358650
i will reject until i get anything but fucking death abyss and there is nothing you will do about it
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>>500358497
i was in normie guild at first, it imploded, so now i play on kazar with anons and its fun. no discord at all, just ingame as it should be.

>>500359886
just wait when t2 launches, when people speed rush to 55 to queue the new dungeons they'll cry.
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>>500352147
what's the point of ever gearing up
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>>500359886
i would rather it be fun than hard desu
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I'm all for "hard" content but today hard fights don't mean requiring you to play your class properly, pumping damage, keeping aggro and healing.
It means doing retarded spastic ballet on 10 layers of visual diarrhea every second.
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Did rain changing the terrain actually make it into the game?
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>>500360329
lol
lmao
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>"i want harder dungeons"
If I ever need study guide cheatsheets for boss mechanics I'm quitting on the spot

>>500361140
They were though, there are a lot of mechanics that would kill/wipe groups of players that are just ignored because you'll survive through them now and just be instantly healed up
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>>500360958
only noticed in it in sanctum of desire so far. i presume there will be more of it when the northern part of the map is unlocked.
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>>500361471
LA is an example of how to not make boss fights. Utterly miserable and unfun from beginning to the end.
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>>500361471
That's a raid, not a dungeon.
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>>500360691
>no discord at all, just ingame as it should be.
can't really be competitive in pvp that way though, need shot calling and all that autism, but ye, if you prefer just a casual hangout guild then it's nice
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>>500361603
really splitting hairs on semantics
12 man raids are coming to TL btw if you've been paying attention
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>>500361603
That's the only way to gear up the game has. You HAVE to do it.
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>>500360497
>waiting for one of the longer dungeons
okay idiot kun
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>>500361765
>death's abyss long
way to oust yourself
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>>500362026
>>500361765
ok i didn't read all of it, you can haze me now
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>>500361751
>really splitting hairs on semantics
two different types of content, LA has dungeons with simpler mechanics just like TL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcmXlevHZxw
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How good are pvp bracelets? Having that extra CC change seems nice and they have hit which is hard to come by.
My other option is the primal king bracelet.
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>>500362212
That's story shit you do while leveling, retard. Actually not even that because you can just skip leveling with a powerpass.
>>500361763
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>>500362212
So what point are you trying to make??
>We have people here asking for harder dungeons
>dungeons is the current content of TL for gearing
>Raids are coming to TL
>you can relate this to lost ark raids if you need to match 1 for 1, also needed for gearing

So people are currently asking for harder dungeons (current content) and those same people will likely ask for the same thing; harder raids (future content) when that comes out
Now, if you go back and read, all I fucking said was "If I ever need study guide cheatsheets for boss mechanics I'm quitting on the spot"
So what point are you making here other than the word "dungeons" isn't the same word as "raids"
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>>500362026
it's short but it's still one of the longer dungeons retardo
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whats your transmutation fodder looking like?
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i can't believe this shit i've been trying to get sabbatons for 3 weeks on my main and now I went on my alt to farm crypt for 1hour for the first time and all this loot bonanza dropped wtf is this fucking game fuck you
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>>500363297
>80 tokens for the selection chess
Fucking retarded gooks and I'm on the same boat.
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>>500363432
the worst part is i dont even want them on this char
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>>500363281
Fuck blues too? I only been saving purples. No storage for blues anyways I guess.
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can someone post an aoe farm wand/dagger build thats actually good pls
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>>500365380
It's called staff.
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>>500365932
that's already my main
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>nothing to do so I'm farming low level shit for litograph completion
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i am a retarded boomer and got filtered by lost ark raids, starting with clown. tl dungeons are the right amount of difficulty for a retard like myself. no i dont want lost ark raids in this game, and i will fight you morons to the death to keep it out. i want more and better abyssal world dungeons, more alive than just nice environments. how about world events, unique rare spawns and scripted events. maybe even an actual hostile city guilds can invade but they're all npcs, for pve people who want a taste of castle siege but a little different? theres so much fun and even mechanically interesting things they can do without the stupid brelshaza dumpster fire and whatever they have going on nowaday.
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>>500365380
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>>500367076
cookie clicker might be more your speed, grandpa
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>>500367076
I'm not a retarded boomer and I did LA raids just fine but I still hate them with a passion and think they're designed by actual sadistic retards.
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>>500367315
lost ark might be your speed, zoomtard. feel free to go over to that gener-- oh oops
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>>500367196
ty this looks good
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what the fuck does a sns/wand do in a pvp especially in some random conflict events do I just stand there and die or do I start grinding for a different set of weapons for the sake of pvp
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>>500368540
it's the funniest playstyle in the game for pvp, that's why i'm leveling it as an alt
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>>500368540
you just dont die
that's it
>>
This game is fun and all, but its lacking a lot of social features that give it sovl. Dance parties, holding hands, RPing with furniture interactions, and just missing a massive ton of emotes in general. Places with bland texture desertscapes aren't enough. We need more colorful and interesting places to hang out, as well.
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>>500369346
>Dance parties
do your lantern festival
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>>500368716
funny? like hilarious? it makes you lolzorz?
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>>500368716
>>500368750
make sense but i can't kill other players solo
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>weapon mastery level ups have a huge impact on gearscore
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>>500370167
>got mastery level 14
>didn't get more gearscore
huh?
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>>500371180
I jumped like 30 points from 10 skill damage boost node.



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