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>Version 1.03(1.04 if you're on console) is out!
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2679460/view/4526772422651793108?l=english
>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!
>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day
>Now available EVERYWHERE (but Nintendo Switch and Xbox One)

>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg

>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)
https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases

>Kino commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA

>How many hours have you played?
>What day are you on?
>What are your favorite classes?
>Favorite BGM?
>Are you having fun?

>"How should I build my MC?"
Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.
>"What is the best team comp?"
Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.
>"How should I manage my time?"
There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.

PLEASE MARK SPOILERS
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>>500243559
Question of the day for the Euphachads ^^
Also damn that OP image is CUTE!!!!
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Does accumulated MAG carry over to NG+ or should I spend it all before hopping (aside from the doubled MAG prices on Regicide)?
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>>500243787
Everything carries over.
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>>500243634
She looks like a loli in this shitty artstyle.
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>>500243782
>^^
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I couldn't find a clear and concise answer to this online, so I watched some yt videos to figure it out myself.
Here are the levels all of your party members join you at, as well as video proof
Hulkenberg joins at level 8
https://youtu.be/pgIalT9U4F4?si=xiEgZWm5qMj5b9pP&t=19243
Heismay joins at level 22
https://youtu.be/bj7skU2wd3I?si=PwK0VQIf7tXmM3pK&t=2598
Junah joins at level 34
https://youtu.be/5ate-Akh2bM?si=Dxwlf0ezzpgFZyqF&t=2182
Eupha joins at level 41
https://youtu.be/oLIeHGno4jU?si=I8UJjFMhn5c5adkE&t=534
Basilio joins at level 46 (this one was hard to find as he doesn't have a fight immediately after)
https://www.youtube.com/live/YciL0gt9Imo?si=mDXehaQxNz241WvP&t=1723
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>>500243559
Their eye can vaguely read emotions and thoughts so...
>Don't have to worry about your face betraying your mood
>Have to worry about your face betraying your mood
>Deeper connections during sex
>Can throw them for a loop just by thinking some REALLY weird shit
>Can play games based around them guessing your thoughts
>Can only pray they don't make assumptions about your thoughts
>Larger space for "eye contact"
>Can see if it cries by thinking about cutting onions
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Ten shin han is a mustari?
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>>500244045
She can sense the flow of magla so she could literally edge you for eternity by your cock energy.
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>>500244141
magla is stored in the balls?
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>>500244118
Tien is Mustari and Chiaotzu is Nidia.
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>>500244141
>Using the anxiety of getting caught to edge you from a distance during your daily court appeals
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>>500244221
Yes.
Please read the memorandum, anon. It's mentioned casually multiple times.
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>>500244402
But then where do girls store it? They don't have balls. Right?
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>>500244402
What about a woman's magla? Where is that stored? Would it be like SA if a male mustari stared at a woman's "magla flow" without her consent?
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>overwrote my save at the start of tyrant's star
>can't get the star shatterer achievement anymore
fug
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>>500243882
Himukai Yuji approved character buddy, get used to it
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>>500244045
Can she see through glamours with her third eye?
Is she just seeing unnamed tribe all the time and not mentioning it?
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>>500244763
Probably not. Even Eupha didn't sense what was wrong with Will until it stopped. She just sensed something was off, but couldn't put her finger on it.
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>>500244763
Alonzo's story is insane when you imagine him looking like this.
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>>500244543
>>500244616
We'll probably find out in the complete rerelease Metaphor FwdFantazio.
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I hope all shippers are women
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>>500245191
Shippers usually are. Waifufags are usually men. There's a distinct difference.
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>>500244763
I want to make Mashed Potatoes.
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>Talk to some random Mustari fruit seller
>They talk about their special dragon fruit
>They say that it's said to increase fertility tenfold
>And also ask if Eupha's shipment of three crates arrived safely
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>>500247198
Surely Edeni wouldn't approve of this right?
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>archived for beating full powered final boss
I should know there something like this before grinding to level 99
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>>500243856
Did inherit prices still the same or its double like unlock prices
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Love me cat, simple as.
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>>500248917
He's a dog though
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Honestly if it were me I would have simply protected the prince unlike that elf bitch.
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>>500243634
Ugly retarded whore should have killed herself
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I need Eupha portraits
>>500250226
Go back to your containment general, retard.
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>>500250332
Fuck off Eupha shitter
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>>500243969
These brats pushed her just because they wanted an upskirt.
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>>500250923
CLOACA
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>>500250923
>Basilio never got to fuck this
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>>500249059
No. His animations confirm that he's a cat.
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Who was More talking to when he said the thing about his novel and the hero that will help his country rediscover its virtue? Was it to Pedro or "True Seeker"?
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>>500250923
how does ishikia pussy feel like, me mates?
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>>500251992
need to ask Neuras for that
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>>500251992
what does nidia (chibi version) pussy feel like?
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Replaying the game and holy shit I just assumed that Glodell was one of the 4 silhouettes we saw in the beginning but no, it's Junah.
Glodell wasn't even one of Louis' top guys.
What a fucking failure, Jesus Christ.
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>>500252484
Louis doesn't even acknowledge his existence lmao
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>>500252034
Do you think he'd let you touch his pussy?
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Final dungeon theme being the main theme is kinda anti climatic
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>no necromancer archetype even though zorba is one
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>no one watching any videos on youtube
>no one talking about it anywhere
>nothing but complaints about missing content or busted gameplay when discussed
it's over unironically
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>>500252957
>Become necromancer
>character just starts screaming for lord louis
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Neuras might be in my top tier of JRPG engineer party members desu
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I'll trade Junah for Rella. We don't need two blondes in the party.
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>no one watching any videos on youtube
>no one talking about it anywhere
>nothing but complaints about missing content or busted gameplay when discussed
it's over unironically
I'm trans btw
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>>500253601
Rella seems like she'd be boring as fuck.
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>>500253713
If Neuras wasn't runnerphilic I'd say there could be some interesting sexual tension between them.
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>>500253503
I fell for him within the first few minutes of actually meeting him and that's after paying no attention or care about him pre-release
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>>500253907
I was afraid he was just going to be a chronic fuckup comedic relief character and he actually turned out to be great.
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>>500253882
Rella is way younger than him. She doesn't want a spindly old man just because he's Ishikia, and vice versa.
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>>500245038
>Metaphor FwdFantazio
If they do this, I'm betting the new party member will be a Rhoag, to make up for Grius. Additionally, now that >>500252957 put the idea in my mind, I hope they introduce a necromancer archetype. Seems an intriguing fit for a person from a long living tribe.
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>>500252858
Yeah, for some reason this kinda fell flat for me. I think it has more to do with the theme itself than anything else, it's not a bad song but it doesn't really have anything going for it. No buildup, no crescendo. It doesn't come close to some of the game's better songs, let alone a really good example of a main theme being used later in the game, like Elden Ring's godlike theme.
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>dragoon archetype
>can't summon turrets like in EO
zzz
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>bonds
>bonds
>bonds
>bonds
pls Hashino-sama.. no more bonds.. no more power of friendship pls...
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>>500256194
>power of friendship
Somehow I'm not sick of this in jrpgs
Sick of final villain being a random god
Sick of overly long endings
But friendship is always fine for me. Strange.
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>>500253601
We'll just have to pray and believe we un-ice her and she join us in ReMetaphor:ReFantazio:ReVengeance™ 2
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>>500256194
>>500256772
I'm getting kinda tired of time contraints in these games. I like the bonds and just generally chilling out with all the characters but being constantly pressed for time just gives me this sense of unease.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpZHYXTUkpI
I love this theme so much
Too bad it only plays for the HOMO fights
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>>500243971
Might as well include Strohl.
Strohl joins at level 3 (but because of the exp gained in his awakening battle, he becomes level 5)
https://youtu.be/p9W_gkZ25aQ?si=moSpr6W9Iw9H8rSR&t=454
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This game has lower rating on Steam than P3R or P5R
What went wrong
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>>500243634
my wife
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>>500261920
read the reviews maybe
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I wish that using the gauntlet runner was optional. I want that feeling of actually traveling. some how japs just can't figure out how to make open worlds its either a hallway map or dungeons.
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>all of the church plotting niggas got off scott free in the end
Huh?
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>>500257648
Metaphor gives you so much time there is no need to ever worry about time constraints. The real issue is that most of these stories simply do not need 8 episodes. Reducing them from 10 does helps but a good half of your time is still going over the same information as the characters make very minor steps. This really stands out when many royal virtue activities are basically social links, but as they aren't constrained to some larger narrative allow them to quickly develop an aspect of the character. They should focus more on these and make social links a longer than normal side quest which has some unique gameplay elements.
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Why didn't Zorba use that bone attack the second time around when they weren't using the painting as a shield? he had just as much of an open space if not more
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loving how Hulkenberg goes full professional and lose all kind of chill she developed during the game
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>>500262540
*proceed to eat sandworm meats*
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LET ME BUY THIS SHIT IN BULK AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>500262846
How many of them do you get for planting this thing? Seems like a lot of hassle for minimum gains
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>>500262846
What's the point of these kind of stores? I don't even bother with them cause they're so tedious.
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>>500262908
With all the upgrade, 3.

>>500262909
I do it out of pure autism to be sure I have -something- to do in the incredible amount of days you got fuckall to do in lategame.
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>>500262098
At least they lost their jobs. One of the NPCs in the Epilogue mentions that the Sanctist Church was kicked out of the Royal Palace and Brigitta says she is the head of the Igniter Consortium, replacing the dude with the weird eye
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Are anime cutscenes more expensive than in-game cutscenes?
I assumed so, but the in game cutscenes look way better than the anime stuff.
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>Buddhist rapping in Esperanto
I thought I was so smart in thinking this would be foreshadowing that the entire world is fictional or some simulation of sort. Damn.
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>>500253713
>Rella seems like she'd be boring as fuck.
But enough about Eupha
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so do Ishkia women lay eggs?
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>travel to far away dungeons and slay monsters
>takes 4 days
>talk to people a dozen times
>takes a week
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>>500265025
Time flies when you're having fun with friends, anon. :)
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The English dub has more character and is more fun than the original Japanese.
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plothole: she is prettier than junah and her voice is nicer
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t-thanks, doc...
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>>500265287
If you mean "fun" as in they sound more clownlike and comical, yes, but if you mean "fun" as in enjoyable and believable, no.
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>>500266546
Success isn't about looks or talent, it's who you sleep with. She failed to bang the king to be.
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>>500266546
>>500266681
Eupha is a retarded whore, kys.
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>>500266748
swing and a miss, my waifu is the racist in grand trad
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>>500266649
>muh realism in a Japanese fantasy game
also nobody speaks like JP Heismay in real life unless they're a deranged ninja cosplayer
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What is Heisenberg good for? Both her atk and mag are horrendous.
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>>500266896
Didn't say realistic, I said believable. also I've definitely heard people talk like heismay irl
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>>500265287
i really hate the weird accents that english has
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MATE, I’M PROPER SKINT, BUT IF GREGGS DROPS A NEW PASTRY, YOU KNOW I’M THERE FASTER THAN ME NAN AT BINGO!
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pink paripussy
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SMASH IT ALL TO BITS
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I just CANNOT get over the animation for Masquerade Charge it's fucking perfect and so campy at the same time
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>Elegy has 5 turns
FUCK YOU NIGGER I had to put that Synthesis cut in half accessory on Will and Junah to deal with you

Also NICE TRY GETTING 9 TURNS BITCH HEISMAY DODGED YOUR FAGGOT ASS TWICE
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>>500267681
I wonder why
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>All bonds, requests, bounties, dungeons done
Is there something I can do until the deadline come?
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bruv, i told meself i’d be healthy, but then i saw the chippy an’ thought, ‘one more bag o’ chips won’t hurt, will it?’
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>>500268162
chips wont hurt you yes
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>>500268162
I've had this exact conversation with a mate before except replace 'chippy' with 'kebab shop'
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>>500268035
bath salts, stay at a camp and continuously pour stat boosting salts on you throughout the nights
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This stat spread is ridiculous but I still love mom regardless
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>>500268475
god damn Hulk is such a babe in that side portrait, how is she single? the knight autism probably hit her too hard
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>>500268475
She can take a lot of beating
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>>500268475
Hulk isn't bad, and stats don't even seem to be that important here. But she really does suffer later on compared to the rest. Why does she have to invest so much in mage tree despite there being multiple better candidates? I like the idea of her being a tank but the point of skills like line guard in EO is cheap thing you can do every turn.
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Since this doesn't specify Physical or Magical, I'm guessing it just means attack in general, so both, right?
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>>500269149
Shes very one dimensional
The only positive thing about RK is that you get extra turn icon for guarding
Its even worse when you can just use Heismay instead for better survivability since you can literally skip some of the bosses annoying mechanic like soul scream
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>>500269315
dodge tanks win again baby
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>>500268551
Thr fucked rodanthe
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Catherina face sitting
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has anyone read the conqueror from a dying kingdom? a light novel that features elf-like humans with hairy pointed ears that are martially inclined like the roussainte. are they inspired by something common?
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>>500250923
Forden tanked this btw
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Do you think Eupha is so pure that handshakes are the first step on a multi-year path to romance
or does she consider it the immediate prelude to rocking the runner when nobody else is around?
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>>500269335
need an update
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>>500269315
>heismay has the best class and passive in the game
>has great affinities
>is a fucking crit machine
>is racist
>naturally hits like 90-95 agility by end game so he's dodging everything and ending the enemy turn even without buffs / debuffs
Best party member by far
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>>500271405
cutest girls in the game
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30+ page doujin where Hulkenberg is charmed but the symptoms persist after the battle and while the rest of the party continues journeying through the dungeon to find a cure, Will stays behind to care for her
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I've finally pumped my endurance up to 70 and I think I'll stop there.
What do you think shoud be my second stat? Luck or Agi?
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>>500272902
What about fidelio?
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>>500273661
STR is always a good idea because a lot of the best classes in the game is strength based including MC's final archetype
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>>500273828
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>>500275284
It's kind of weird that the previous archetypes in the tree lean heavily on the focus of magic and then they just go "lol actually here's an archetype with a super boss killer strength based move"
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>>500256194
I didn't feel like they were close to each other aside from the protagonist and maybe berg/strohl.
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Is it just me or monster will looks a bit like demifiend?
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>>500270431
There's probably something earlier but FFXI featured the elvaan, tall lanky elves who were also physically the strongest race. They also had awkward and eccentric poses much like hulk's idle pose in dungeons.
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>>500273828
Cat Chie
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>>500275932
Prince is its own thing, it's not the highest rank of the starting archetype branch like for the other characters.
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>>500277848
>Ask Eupha how half of the royal treasury managed to disappear in a single day
>Ask her where the thousand crates of fertility fruit came from
>She just gives you this look
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>>500278497
She can Summon my Royal Sword, if you catch my drift
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>>500277848
So there's a Royal Seeker archetype that we didnt get access to?
Another thing for the complete edition wishlist, I suppose...
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>>500268475
why does the stat spread matter when you can just 99 it with incenses + mastering every archetype?
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>>500269257
Yeah it means attack which is a modifier for either physical or magical damage
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>>500279074
Seeker isn't your archetype, it's More's. You're just following in his footsteps until you come into your own, which is Prince
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>>500275565
I'll show you a laugh, Del
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>MC clearly leaned into magic with seeker
>suddenly Prince is physical focused
Smhtbhwy
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>>500279947
soul hacker was phys tho, with its 2 phys almighty synths
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I'm kinda relieved I finished the game, it was the only thing I was thinking about most days
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aight, went back 1 day and did star shatterer
was surprisingly not that much more difficult. just felt like all his phases were just a bit tankier, but they played the exact same
i did have a few close calls though and resorted to using items this time around so i guess that was nice
not going to do these last 4 tho
maybe the secret boss cheevo but I think I'm done now. hoping for some dlc in the near future, game was great honestly
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>>500279947
Seeker is hot garbage before soulhacker. The real cockblock is that mc is the only real magic candidate until you get junah so you're on mage duty the whole time.
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>>500279947
yeah I'm a bit disappointed by that, had a bit of a "holy shit" moment when the mc could do magic in a world of physcels, a complete subversion of every other smt game and kinda playing into the whole fantasy homage thing. and then he just becomes another punch hard mc.
>>500280013
yeah but that makes sense in a meta reference sort of way because none of the soul hacker MCs can do magic
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Don't ask why the Sanctist Church deliberately funneled igniters into predominantly paripus neighbourhoods under Hythlodaeus V
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For the world to be at peace, Astro Bot must win GOTY. Rebirth winning would send out the wrong message (multiverse plot nonsense with mini games out the ass), and Atlus isn't ready for clout chasers to play their games.
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Our Del was, in fact, a slut. Why do you think Louis' troops were so devastated to the point of ditching Louis after Del's death?
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>>500280553
why are you bringing this dumb /v/ culture shit here
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>>500280191
Hulkenberg was pretty serviceable for me on mage weakness bot duty in the early game.
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>>500280553
This trash unfinished game won't even get a nomination
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>>500280553
1000xresist should win because it is the best game of the year
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It was a pretty good move to have Louis be the antagonist from the first scene of the game to the end. It's too bad that means he needs to have a ultimately generic deranged plan so the protags can beat a huge version of him in the end but eh can't be perfect. Wonder if all metaphor games will go that direction of larger than life main villain.
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>>500280553
Are you retarded, fatlus sent out free copies and other goods to every clout chasing streamer around
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>>500280904
It's shockingly refreshing in that sense. When was the last time an Atlus game did that?
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>>500280904
What they did to Forden is how I expected him to go out. Glad they didn't pull a Necron on us.
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>I reeeaaaly need to talk to you
>But we have to do it on the Gauntlet Runner while it's running, you see?
>Also we need to do this at least twice
What would they gate follower's level behind bullshit like this?
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>>500281707
u WIRR use runneru!
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>>500281707
they wanted the starfield audience
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>>500281707
It's strange but it's also pretty much a non issue. You'll always have gauntlet runner time slots to use.
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>>500275565
Unironic best boy. I want Metaphor Re Re Re Fantazio to bullshit some way of keeping him alive in two years.
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>>500280553
Kill yourself, unironically. I hope Rebirth wins just to spite you. Also imagine hating minigames. That's literally the best part about Rebirth.
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>>500280904
they purposely made his motive retarded to make the protagonists look good
it's a shame because he gave a very strong first impression, but ultimately he was a nothing-character who was just meant to be used as a stepping stone for the good guys
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>That scene where it replays the prince falling but no one catches him and he lays there until night
That was pretty sad
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>>500282713
what? I don't recall
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>>500280904
It makes me laugh that you have to put this in spoilers, particularly the first sentence.
That shouldn't be a spoiler.
That should just be the normal expected thing for a jrpg story to do.
It sucks that it isn't. Hopefully Metaphor's success changes things and it finally becomes more prominent.
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I'm in the last month. Can i cook more than once per day somewhere?
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>>500283187
in your runner
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Speaking of the Royal Treasury!
Oh, hold on, let me get on stage
...
Speaking of the Royal Treasury!
The vote is still on! As you're undoubtedly aware, what with it being the talk of the town, our chaotic king has decreed that half of the standing treasury be given to several causes as determined by popular vote.
The results so far have been... utterly banal. Truly grief inspiring, even.
In first place we have "Foundation for Forcing Goborns to Bathe".
In second, the "Fairy Pension Fund"
And in third, "Advocates for the Literacy of Homo Denta", whatever those are.
Are the lot of you taking the piss because you doubt His Majesty's sincerity?
Trust old Batlin when he tells you that our Maniac Monarch is every bit genuine in his generosity, so get out there and vote for something that matters.
Until next time, Tradians, keep your ears perked and your teeth brushed.
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>>500283113
This game flopped and has an extremely bad rep as being the easiest jrpg and also the least complete everywhere outside of this thread so no
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Grius will live in metaphor reloaded and get his own archetype.
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weren't you supposed to go move on to shitposting against Dragon Age?
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11 hours into the game, about to do stolen dagger side quest
tbqh I'm already tired of the combat and the plot development (election campaign race... literally) is kinda lame.
I hate how I spent HOURS just reading dialogues without battle after the necromancer dungeon
I hate how weak my party is
I wish I could change archetype mid-battle.
I hate how grindy it feels having so many archetype that I have to level up for every single character
I wish inactive archetypes earn EXP too
I wish each character had their own unique, specialized archetype instead of free generic customization.

Also, I think I'm just starting to hate resource (HP/MP) management in JRPG. I much prefer having my HP MP fully healed after each battle like in Xenoblade, so I can go all out every battle. it's more fun that way. having to hold back to save resource SUCKS.
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what should I do?
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>>500285035
ok
fuck off
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>>500285035
The entire game is like this because the developers didn't finish it
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Thank fuck I'm finally done with the Dragon Temple. This dungeon was a real pain in the ass and almost made me drop the game.
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>>500285321
it's not
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>>500285365
did you fight every monster you came across?
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>>500285035
If you aren't into press turn then I'm not really sure you can do much to remedy that. The plot had truly hooked me by this point so again not sure what to tell you there.

There are not "hours" of dialogue after the necromancer dungeon and someone that would complain about this probably is going to get filtered by Atlus games anyway. It sounds like you just really don't like Atlus games which is fine I guess.
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>>500285035
Xenoblade is on a whole different plane of existence from this dogshit
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>>500285035
Last 3 items on your list is addressed, you just need to play more. Sounds like you're not enjoying the game at all, in that case drop it and play something else.
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very realistic game with the emacs church propaganda limiting the power of everyone with igniters (emacs lisp) while the old powerful relics are written in guile
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>>500285701
wtf does this post even mean
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>>500285761
Game is an unfinished mess
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>>500282609
Game failing to make any other legitimate viable candidates is a shame. But it'd have to have much more complex writing for that to work and mc to still win in spite of that.
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Characters suck
The villain is garbage
Story wasn't written properly
But this game is totally finished
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Straight up word-for-word shitposts from /bgg/. Go there now. Same shit.
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>don't get to keep the dragon sword in ng+
for what purpose does it exist
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>>500285035
>stolen dagger quest
I hope you do that after you get Thief but it sounds like you aren’t which means you’re one of those retards that hate reading.
>hours of dialogue after necromancer
A lie
>weak your party is
Also a lie or just a skill issue considering you can two turn ko everything the game throws without getting hit once as long as you get an advantage encounter
>i wish I could change my archetype mid battle
Absolutely retarded fucking suggetion that wreaks of someone getting filtered by having to think of party setups
>grindy
>i wish inactive archetypes gained exp too
You get an item that gives you 1k aexp everytime you level up a maxed archetype, which takes 1k aexp
>i wish each character had their own uniue specialized archetypes
They do
>i hate resource management
Then why are you playing a press turn game?
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>>500286715
Dunno what that is, but I kept all three Kings swords, and I'm happy about that.
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>>500287153
the dragon trial sword, nigga
the glowing laser beam sword, nigga
the prince's levitating magic sword imbued with dragon magla and shit, nigga
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Louis is a nothing character
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What's that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of my 500 attack sword that I got to keep
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>>500287382
This is a nothing post.
*immunity to "This is a nothing reply"*
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>>500287538
What the hell are those other 500 ATK weapons? Are they also from the trials?
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qrd on the argument today
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>>500287538
>lame seeker sword vs cool magic laser beam sword
nah, shit sucks
>>500287620
the 500 atk sword is from the protag having learnt all archetypes
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Game is a broken mess
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>>500287710
>the 500 atk sword is from the protag having learnt all archetypes
Damn, I couldn't be assed grinding all the archetypes in my playthrough
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>>500287620
Getting 90% and 100% Archetype mastery on a character gets you a 500atk weapon for their canon Archetype and one other. Do it for all 7 and you'll have them for all Archetypes. It's a fucking slog and I spent hours spamming Debt Collection on Governs and farming mimics to do it.
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>>500285035
>Doesn't like JRPGs
>Can't into the press turn system
>Thinks the main premise of the game, which it's heavily marketed with is lame
Real question, but why are you here?
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what was the point of locking regicide behind NG+
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>>500288161
It's a broken easy unfinished turd of a game
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Get a hobby
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XBCX definitive will sell more on its first day than this shit will in its lifetime
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The only thing unfinished here is my edging to Eupha
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XBCX definitive will sell more on its first day than this shit will in its lifetime
I'm trans btw
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>>500288798
>story isn't finished
>this ugly cunt isn't a character
>the gameplay collapses in on itself like a dying star
>ugliest looking game ever made
Unfinished dogshit game
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>>500288798
>story isn't finished
>this ugly cunt isn't a character
>the gameplay collapses in on itself like a dying star
>ugliest looking game ever made
Unfinished dogshit game
I'm trans btw
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>>500288798
sexo
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>game about job changes and customization
>lol royal archetype faggots
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>>500288798
>story isn't finished
>this ugly cunt isn't a character
>the gameplay collapses in on itself like a dying star
>ugliest looking game ever made
Unfinished dogshit game
I'm a black trans kween btw
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XBCX definitive will sell more on its first day than this shit will in its lifetime
I'm a black trans kween btw
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I do not know what xbcx is
I'm a real humen bean btw
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>>500291924
energy vampire shitposter and its primary feeding target arguing, do not engage
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>>500292005
No one is arguing bro
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Okay so what's the best place to farm money and MAG during the last month of the game?
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>>500291924
Apparently Xenoblade Chronicles X (The weird one that's a Wii U exclusive) is getting a remaster. Its got mechs supposedly, but I wouldn't know. Couldn't force one of those WAGGLAN tablets in my hands.
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I like games.
I'm a well adjusted, educated, white homosexual man
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What would you want in an Atlus-style remaster that couldn't just be DLC?
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>>500293186
I don't want more fucking Atlus re-releases, quit making me feel like I wasted money
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>>500293186
Not happening.
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>>500293186
Not a remaster.
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>>500293186
Fully modeled anuses that you will have no ability to see in game.
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>>500294157
wasn't there a game that had this?
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>>500293186
I'll only accept a remaster if it's like Vengeance and has an entire alternate route.
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>>500294257
It was a mod.
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>>500294321
>mod
fuck you made me remember lmao, yeah it was that half life 2 mod. something cinematic something. I remember because I was looking into adding iron sight style shooting into that game a decade or so ago
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>>500293186
In the /v/tard posting fashion
No one will buy another dogshit unfinished broken mess atluslop remaster
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>>500253660
Louis' relationship with the book feels kind of flat. I kept expecting more of it but there's not much to it really, I feel like if he just had his motivation of having the Eldan Sanctuary attacked it wouldn't make much difference.
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>>500293186
vengeance raised the bar on what I expect from atlus re-releases now
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Tell me, anon, where is one sure to find the quality posters in /vg/?
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>>500293303
You did. This game wasn't finished in any area
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>>500295461
All Vengeance did was put V on the level of vanilla games.
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how would you improve junah, i don't understand why she is so hated
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>>500295445
Needed a flashback. But I think it adds to it that he admired the king and the utopia novel just like Will. And what contributed to his doomerism is the author of the book giving up on his ideals and blaming him for the prince's "death".
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>>500295953
All the characters are hated because they all suck
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>>500295953
Hated by who she's the best girl
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>>500295626
Page 10
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I am Louis the Mighty!
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>>500295953
I don't hate her, but she's in a weird spot where her initial reasons for joining the party are really shallow, even more than Eupha's, and Rella's death motivating her comes immediately after we just had the same idea play out with Basilio.
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>>500295953
She was the only party member I was indifferent on after the end but not enough to hate her outright like Mona.
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>>500296413
She basically joined the party months before the game started.
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>>500296657
>hating Morgana
absolutely filtered
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>>500295953
Don't hate her just don't give a shit.
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>>500297052
>hey you must be pretty tired, go to bed
Morgana was rightfully hated. Worst character.
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Why did they have to make Rela's walking animation so sexy
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>>500297052
>leaves the group
>game treats it like it never happened
Mona is a shitty mascot character maybe worse then Teddie.
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>>500296890
Yeah but compared to everyone else "I want to save the prince so I'll be better at singing" comes off as silly.
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Martira had 2 dungeons altabury had 1 mini dungeon something doesn't add up
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I HATE ENERGY STEAL
I HATE ENERGY STEAL
I HATE ENERGY STEAL
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>he isn't using the Hulk butt mod
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>>500299054
That's a shoddy ass texture man
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>>500299152
it's better than nothing
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>>500299260
True.
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why do the characters say "Messiah!" when they are using the soul hacker archetype?
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>>500295953
She just feels really undeveloped. You talk to her 5 minutes and then she awakens before you even know anything about her. She apparently joined the resistance in a super risky position just for her singing. Her high profile status doesn't even add anything to your group. Her "main story" parts are with Rella, which comes months after her joining and get conflate with every other plot twist happening over 3 days. And aside from the bit about the nidia tribe's secret, her bond story is honestly boring as hell.
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>>500299054
That makes it look like flat AND stone
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>accidentally pressed skip during cutscene in Altabury
>suddenly Rella is the villain
feels like the pacing is a bit all over the place
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What is the point of the gunner lineage man
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So according to the memorandum Gallica had Will's mom's soul inside her and I assume it's combined with her own. Is that why a fairy would suddenly be such a bleeding heart about politics? Cause according to the others she wasn't like this before she left the sanctum and it's only been 4 months or so while she's really old.
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>>500301090
resource sink
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>>500301090
Pierce damage at full power from the back row.
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>>500301090
I took 4 snipers to the Spire of Blind Faith bird boss and had a great time since it only goes apeshit if you have guys in the front row.
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>>500301090
Heismay ran gunner for a chunk of my playthrough and it was pretty solid.
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>>500301090
There's one optional dungeon during the mustari village arc where 2 gunners absolutely rape everything there.
They even give you a bow there that guarantee maximum hit. I went from mid 30's to 41 just by shooting some birds.
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what would happen if someone called a nidia a nidder
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Investor or thrifty abacus?
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>>500301090
In theory I think it's to give you a lineage for physical attackers to be able to act in the back row and a lineage for applying statuses. Applying statuses is pretty weak and the opportunity to put physical attackers in the back isn't very valuable though. I don't know what the point of Dragoon is though, that just seems like shit. Maybe if you have some way of always getting the max amount of multi-hits is good, but I don't think many items do that, and those that do have low damage to go with them.
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>>500303279
Greater than any treasure
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>>500301090
They should have merged thief and gunner. It would greatly improve both classes. It gives thief something to do besides steal and the evasion makes the gunner an actually interesting combat class.
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>>500301090
No idea. It's easily the worst archetype in the game.
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>Hulkenberg
Doesn't wear flattering underwear. They're practical, comfortable, and most importantly resistant to swords, frost, and fire up to 220 Celsius
If you're peeping on her, don't expect her to put on a show taking them off. You blink and you'll miss her shucking them.
>Junah
Wears classier underwear, but no lace on days where she's wearing a dress.
Couldn't tell you how it looks on her though because her preferred method of dressing is simply stepping out of her clothes, if you know, you know, and if you're into that, go wild.
>Eupha
Traditional even in the cloth, she prefers silken loincloths and chestwraps.
If there was any girl that would be a show to watch undress, it's Eupha with that final stretch of the cloth resting between her legs being more delectable than any dessert.
>Gallica
Fairies, as it happens, see no need and have no care for undergarments. Her bathing ritual simply consists of lowering her leotard to her navel and shimmying out of the rest.
While her small size makes it hard to see much in the way of details, if you look closely, her leotard tends to dig in where it matters most.
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>>500301090
stunning obnoxious enemies
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>>500301121
It's probably more akin to her soul existing alongside Gallica, since she talks directly to her and seems to be a separate presence. As for Gallica being different, the memo states that fairies who spend time with people while pursuing a purpose or goal mature extremely rapidly in intellect. Even the fairy from the dragon trial attributes Gallica's people-like behavior as due to spending time with MC and the gang.
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Sex with Eiselin. That's it. That's the post.
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Right... It's her isn't it ? Show me your back bird lady
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>>500305535
Despacito
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Someone convince me to finish this shit game. I just reached the point where the MC is revealed to be the manifestation of the will of the prince... this is the first plot twist that I never cared about. I just don't fucking care anymore. The combat sucks, I am not feeling attached to the world or the characters, I don't care about the fucking social hierarchies and races, I wanted a fucking fun game, instead I got the book Das Kapital, but this time it was written from the perspective of a 14 year old girl.

3/10.
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>>500305683
dead spacito 2
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>>500305729
>Someone convince me
no I'm not your mom do your homework yourself.
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>>500305729
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>>500305729
>Instead I got the book Das Kapital
wow anon, you sound like a really smart person that pays attention to stories, why don't you tell us more?
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>>500306768
Me in the center
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>>500305729
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If I had a nickel for every time the game used the sentence "We ride together, we die together", I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
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Wait, so we didn't get to explore mage academy?
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>>500307160
I was thinking the same thing, anon.
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>>500305535
But damn those randoseru are something else, I now get why they cost $450, they built different. The beam didn't even get through. If only big bro was facing the other way
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>eupha
would you?
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>>500284191
best poster itt
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>>500307417
Kiss her on the third eye and cherish her as my royal wife? Definitely
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>>500304690
best poster itt
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how would sex with a nidia even work?
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>>500308169
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>>500307417
What sane and straight man wouldn't?
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>>500306735
The game approaches tragedy poorly. Tragedy should be easy to convey, it should be subtle yet powerful, easy to see yet hidden for example the case of Akechi in Persona 5 Royal. He alone made P5R a 9/10 for me personally. This case it was like "Who the bloody hell cares?". Who cares about Grius or Del or that girl Rella or whatever her name is.......... the game evolves very poorly and it explains itself very poorly.
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>>500307483
>>500307752
Why thanks
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>>500309156
>for example the case of Akechi in Persona 5 Royal
fujo hands made this post
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>>500308169
>you'll never turn Junah into your personal cocksleeve
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>>500309603
Atlus confirmed the platonic relationship between Akechi and the protagonist btw.
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>>500309156
>Explains itself very poorly
>Its like, who cares
>Who cares who cares
Are you sure you're not a 14 year old girl?
Nah, scratch that. I've met plenty of those that would at least be smart enough to realize I was mocking them and not actually inviting them to further share their opinion.
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>>500309881
Good for him
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>>500309156
t. falseflagging p3faggot
will always be the worst persona with the worst fans
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>There's a letter and a war chest from Brigitta...
That's the sixth time in a row, I simply can't run out of money, my mommy is too generous
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>>500309881
>I share a general with people that watch this rat
grim
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>>500310267
It's not an allowance, it's a favor, one you will have to repay
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>>500310439
I am VIP in hasan chat
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>>500310512
even more grim
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>>500308169
Their glamor forms aren't an illusion and more of a transformation, right? It's why they can interact with things normally in it. So presumably, just normal sex unless you're into kinkier shit.
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>asmongold has 150 hours of metaphor from his 2 week vacation
flopbro(s)...
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>>500310992
That has to be afk overnight time
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>>500310992
the king Asmongold
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>>500310992
who?
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>>500311420
>admitted that they gave a higher score than they actually wanted to
>made this article because they were upset with how much everyone loved the game
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>>500311102
Part of it was, but he's at 150 hours in brilehaven intro
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>>500310992
ok? I have more than that
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>>500311964
post it
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>>500311420
>>glosses over
>when these are very much THE driving forces of the last act
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>>500311420
who the fuck wrote that lmao
>Prince
>glossing over
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>every bond storyline that isn't the mandatory main plot-adjacent one is just some irrelevant side story that involves some rando tertiary characters that have nothing to do with anything
Would it really be so hard to incorporate some of these into the story, or at least make them more relevant to the story? It feels so weird to use your downtime between story beats to help Junah sing at a festival or take care of Brigitte's dog.
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How to sexually please Gallica? She can give you bodyjobs, but you would be too big to accurately pleasure her.
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>>500312491
first social link game chud?
at least some of them are actually good like Alonzo
Junah's probably one of the worse though
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>>500312491
>find out Junah used to be a slave in her backstory, only in her bond
>nowhere is this hinted or even implied in the main story
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>>500311420
>started the game expecting Louis to be the best character
>he turns out to be one of the worst character by the end of the game
how did they fumble this hard, they just had to copy Reinhard from logh
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>>500312457
That was siliconera's resident chink tranny
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>>500312906
They didn't finish the game. It's an unfinished mess.
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>>500312397
>>500312457
They're definitely not glossed over, whoever wrote that is an idiot.The real problem is that they're not foreshadowed properly which makes the revelations lack weight when they happen. They could've teased a lot of this shit throughout the game and it would've made the reveals more satisfying and interesting in the moment.
>the open secret of the prince being an elda never comes up before it's relevant
>Gallica's memories being screwed up never comes up before it's relevant
>Louis' origins never come up before they're relevant
There just isn't much setup for anything that happens in the second half, it's a boring at best and sloppy at worst.
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>>500312491
>strohl
>village destroyed by human let loose by louis

>hulkenberg
>self-imposed exile because of her failure to protect the prince

>heismay
>self-imposed exile because of the death of his son due to paripus riots, caused by sanctic igniter experimentation

>junah
ok yeah you're right lol

>eupha
>coming to terms with her suicidal ideation caused by a mistaken interpretation of religious murals
nah ok this one was also a stretch, only tangentially related to the main plot through the dragon lance

>basilio
>dealing with igniter experimentation, grief, and moving on

most of em are related to the main plot one way or another (for the main party members, that is).
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>>500311420
This creature played the game with their TV turned off.
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I want to cuddle with Bas in one of the runner capsule beds.
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>>500312616
I mean, you could give her some pretty great oral sex, especially if she's really sensitive. She's also not that small, you could totally use your pinky to please her.
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>>500313231
Man this game is just a broken unfinished mess
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>>500313278
my brain started rotting the moment I tried to recall eupha's story my bad. started recalling more after reading my own post lol. her dealing with the church is also kind of related to the main plot and how religious fanaticism is harmful. ties into the sanctism plot like the igniter experiments, i guess
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>>500313461
I'm gonna go with the Interspecies Reviewers standard on this topic, which says you're fine as long as you have a microdick
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>>500293186
scrap everything after virga island and start over
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>>500313278
More broadly they all relate to fear and anxiety
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>>500313991
This. The game just doesn't work all the 9s should be 5s or 6s
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>>500301090
a reason to support the black man
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No point in trying to refute opposing arguments when a shitposter will make them bad by association.
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How do we dump the shitposter on another general?
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>>500309881
faggot twitchies :////

>>500313278
I think the only reason Junah was added to the game was so they could say they included some beautiful girl lovers type character for advertising. She really does have 0 character, it's like persona Q tier writing with her specifically
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>>500312616
This is why I hate the uncreative. They have such grand plans but then ask the world how to accomplish them.
Intercural, tongue bathing, toys, chest sucking, and full-ass kisses. Hop to it, lad.
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I want to replay this game for the 3rd time but I've already got every achievement and the whole 'Archetypes are locked until you re-unlock them' puts me off.
I want a sequel already, hopefully they fix the above.
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>>500314691
Read this in Neuras' voice
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>>500314729
Try an "against type" challenge run. Berserker Junah, mage Bas etc.
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>>500314434
make the thread so gay they run away from it
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>>500313231
>Prince
OC donut steel gets the setup
>Gallica
Rank 1 follower
>Louis
The part where he gets upset during the soiree when Strohl starts talking about Halia getting burned down
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>>500314808
>getting sex advice from your virgin uncle
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>>500313231
>>the open secret of the prince being an elda never comes up before it's relevant
only the nobles who were close to the royal family would have known this so its not really an open secret
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>>500314729
This and also the difficulty not being balanced at all for the endgame gear is what really kept me from getting sucked right into regicide. I wouldn't even mind that much because I get my ass totally handed to me on regicide when I don't have the endgame gear equipped but the auto-equip every time you switch archetypes even if they have similar weapon classes is too annoying. This was the first time they've done NG+ only difficulty but I was really expecting it to be something like godborn just with no buying incenses
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>>500314581
I think they just really wanted to shoehorn in a singer/idol character.
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>>500313231
True. The way they handle those reveals was pretty amateurish.
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>>500313278
Eupha appeared too late to make sense in the party. At the 11th hour getting a party member who knows nothing was an odd choice.
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>>500315640
Nah
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Oh good, the typical "it was actually shit" turnaround.
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>>500316012
It's one shitposter
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>>500314581
I personally found Eupha to be the most shallow character, it's almost as if they realized this late in development and shoved that rank 8 bond to force players into liking her. Junah turned out fine by virtue of being carried by Rella, but they definitely should have explored her past as a slave more, and her true form as well.
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>>500315864
She joins like halfway through the game dude
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>>500315034
We can try.
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>>500315864
She joined up 2/3rds through the game, anon
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>>500315864
Yeah she kind of felt like she was just tagging along for the ride, I guess that's the point.
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>>500316012
>play unfinished shit game
>surprised when everyone starts shitting on it for being unfinished
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>>500315492
>only the nobles who were close to the royal family would have known this so its not really an open secret
It was an open enough secret that they were able to mention it a single time and everyone believed it. And we're splitting hairs anyway, the point is that the prince being an elda could've been hinted at earlier instead of it being mentioned for the first time right as it became relevant, giving the player more time to wrap their head around the possibility of the MC being the prince, which makes the actual reveal of the MC being a tulpa/OC more interesting since it betrays the players' expectations. If you don't give plot points proper setup then they fall flat, because the player is operating with insufficient information to care in the first place.
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>>500316134
And after her dungeon when the story goes into turbo overdrive and they drop every plot twist in the game in the next few hours before it's the final month.
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>>500316369
>everyone believed it.
>every two seconds someone goes "are you REALLY the prince?"
>even after the church starts telling people to believe it half the country still doesn't
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>>500316246
I don't even see how this is a problem. The whole point is that you are travelling around the world inspiring people to see your vision for the country.
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>>500316156
>china fujos make their work impossible to find
>post on sites unsearchable with saucenao
>just want to see fucked up china fujo art
I hate new Google image search so much. Can't ever find anything.
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>>500316610
It's an unfinished mess of a game with shit writing and gameplay
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>>500316784
time to do some baidumaxxing
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>>500316369
>the point is that the prince being an elda could've been hinted at earlier instead of it being mentioned for the first time right as it became relevant, giving the player more time to wrap their head around the possibility of the MC being the prince
THE GAME CONSTANTLY HINTS AT THIS. YOU PLAYED WITH A BLINDFOLD ON. LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE GAME IT SHOVES HIS FACE ON THE SCREEN WHERE YOU CAN EASILY TELL HE IS AN ELDA.
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>>500316784
Yeah that's fujo artwork alright
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>>500316784
You and me both, brother.
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>>500315864
>okay, instead of giving us the lance, just help us use it to kill someone instead
>trust us, he's evil and deserves it, and it'll definitely save someone's life that he cursed too
>Louis immediately tells her he was planning to burn her village down in their first conversation, no real prompting or anything
>when you do "kill" Louis, the curse doesn't go away and she just sort of still goes along with it and is invested for some reason
The writing around Eupha joining your group just felt really forced.
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>>500317083
Holy autism
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>>500308169
>PLEASE WILL CAN WE JUST HAVE NORMAL SEX
>no, turn into a gremlin
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>>500317083
This is flimsy reasoning. She already had a personal reason to go with you, then she finds out about the prince, then she finds out Louis is a bad guy, and all the way on the far end of that she wants to sleep with Will. She's got more than enough reasons to be there
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>>500317463
>>500317518
Guess that post was a little forced. Or maybe the point was unfinished.
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>>500316956
I mean within the context of the story, obviously. If we're gonna go with that logic then Gallica and the MC should've known from the start the prince was an elda, since they had interacted with him in person and would've seen his lack of horns. And also saw the lack of horns every time they used the magic mirror.

Honestly the more I think about it the less sense it makes. I fully accept the possibility that I'm just a speed reader or that I have a shit memory but does the MC's resemblance to the prince ever actually come up before Basilio says this? Surely if this were true Hulkenberg would've mentioned it. An elda that is a "dead ringer" for the prince?
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>>500317993
The writing is just riddled with holes because they didn't finish the game.
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>>500317993
That was the very first time their resemblance was ever stated.
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>>500317083
At least every other party member had a relation to the plot through the royal family, Louis, the blackguard, Rella etc so she was easy to forget about in the back half. I can say I'm glad most party members are relevant to the end though.
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>>500317993
Game is an unfinished mess.
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>>500317993
And this guy was not in any royal inner circle. It was clumsy because how the fuck did no one say this before?
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>>500317993
If your point is that you want the player to consider the possibility then what the characters actually know is irrelevant to that. You're correct though that Basilio brings that up without much foundation. At least none that I remember. I would be interested in seeing that Basilio line in the JP because it feels a bit off. If it was just "you look like the prince, right?" Or something of the sort then it's fine because Basilio has seen the mirror and is just making an observation.
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>>500317993
The Prince being half n' half is something that was obvious from the start, you just don't know what the other half is. Before the game came out I thought he was half Rhoag because his ears are misshapen in the anime cutscene
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>>500318490
Right, so I'm not completely retarded, at least. And right after that when Hulkenberg suggests the prince's lack of horns wasn't a biological quirk but a mark of eldan blood, everyone is surprised, including Gallica and the MC, as if they'd never even considered the possibility. This isn't completely mind-shattering considering Gallica and the MC's memories are compromised, but it at least confirms that they were operating under the presumption that the prince was a clemar like his father.
>>500318738
>If your point is that you want the player to consider the possibility then what the characters actually know is irrelevant to that.
I disagree completely, a lot of the information the player has regarding the world and events of the game is communicated through dialogue between characters. This is a perfect example, if Hulkenberg had mentioned that the MC is a dead ringer for the prince a few hours earlier it would've given more time for the player to consider the different possibilities for future revelations, while also making the "prince body double" plan make way more sense, since you wouldn't have to spontaneously rationalize why the plan works as well as it does.
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>>500317083
Better than Junah's
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>>500316784
God I need more of this, but I'm already at edge even finding japanese stuff, chinese art is out of reach..
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>>500315492
Also not to get hung up on specific phrasing but Hulkenberg says that "any artistocrat" would've at least heard the rumor that the prince was secretly an eldan. Even if you just limit that to Grand Trad you're talking about most of the country's rich and powerful. That's hardly "only nobles close to the royal family".
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>>500319883
There won't be more. The game already fell off
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>>500320018
Fuck off schizoid, go to /v/ and join them sperg out about the new Dragon Age
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>>500318738
Seems I was right. This is roughly "MC, don't you look like the prince?"
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>>500320383
Definitely better since it doesn't read like something everyone had already realized, but this still doesn't explain why Hulk never commented on the MC's resemblance to the prince.
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>>500319478
Again the lack of horns is not what immediately just makes him an elda, it just makes him a cross with one of the other races with a couple obvious ones not included
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>>500317993
The more I think about it, the more I realize Grius might have been the perfect solution for this. He helped the prince escape to the eldan sanctum, so if Gallica were to mention that you were the prince's best friend, he could just make some confused gesture and say something like "was there someone like that...?" Then have him note that you two look alike, and then your fake memories state that's how you became friends in the first place. And then, because he dies, there's no way to follow up on this until way later.
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>>500320383
Why on earth would Basilio know what he looked like
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>>500320954
You just give the whole thing away at that point, it was much better to tease the connection to the prince by just showing him the whole game and then get into Will being mistaken for a dragon messenger not long before you're told that dragons are creatures of pure magla
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>>500316784
https://x.com/Lay92378283
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>>500321087
Through farside(?) mirror they showed him and Fordelio on 9/10.
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>>500320954
It's not as if there's nothing though. The more you piece together, the less sense the memories make. The Eldan Sanctum isn't big, yet neither Junah or Grius recognize him despite him always being around the person they're supposedly protect. At the same time, the MC says that the prince took him in after the Sanctum burning, but neither Grius nor Hulkenberg recognize him. And if that were true, then he likely would have fled with the prince, which he didn't. Yet both Grius and Junah know Gallica by name, but not the MC.
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>>500320886
Except Hulkenberg has this to say on that subject, which makes it sound like people that have clemar blood and no horns aren't merely uncommon, but that it would have been a "miraculous feature of the prince alone". As in, no other half-clemar has ever not been born without the horns.
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>>500321479
I don't even think it has to do with him being a half-blood or lacking horns to be a thing with half-blood Clemars. The official story might very well have been just that the prince shockingly lacks horns because him being half-blooded would be a scandal that would shake the nation, and those in the know, and those that doubt, say it's because he's an Eldan half-blood.
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>>500321479
That's stretching it pretty far isn't it? The moment you add genetic deformities into the equation in a population of what, 9000 people? Saying that doesn't mean much. It's like, of course if a halfbreed upfront looks like he could be the demon race of their religion there's going to be rumors going around like that.
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So why exactly did the two different dubs choose different ways to pronounce "Louis"?
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>>500323160
It will end up different wither way, do you want Luouisu instead of Louie?
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>>500320690
it's a character point. she was so disillusioned with her own failure that she can't see anyway of redeeming herself (protecting this new "prince"
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>>500323160
RUI-SAMA O
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So is the consensus that the game was unfinished? Wasn't this supposed to be. GOTY candidate?
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>>500324298
No, that's just the /v/ schizo. The game is easily the best game this year.
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>>500324298
Not anymore unfinished than the first versions of P3/4/5.
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>>500323160
I'm mad they can't be consistent there...
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>>500324964
I will say "Louie" in English sounds much less imposing and I do like going with Louis instead, it's just weird listening to the JP.
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>>500324298
First half is 9/10, second half is 5-6/10 albeit a lot of effort was put into the ending.
It's a good game overall but it could have been much better with more development time.
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>>500325597
Come back in two years :^)
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>>500324442
I think only the /v/ schizo would make that post you replied to.
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>>500324298
Most games are "unfinished", this one just really shows in the latter half. Reused enemies, reused locations, missing locations, sloppier writing, etc. It doesn't ruin the game, it just subtracts from the experience. I liked the game, but it was adjacent enough to SMT and Persona that I ended up just wishing I was playing SMT or Persona. You don't realize how much charm and immersion SMT's enemy variety adds until you get a game like this which has fuck-all going for it as far as enemies are concerned outside of the first few human bosses.
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>>500325894
You're probably right.
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So it is the consensus. So now what? Why aren't they supporting this after launch if it's unfinished?
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Game bad
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Too damn transparent.
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>>500325597
But enough about persona 4
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The only 10/10 atlus game is P3
This game is a solid 8 desu
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Clearly he didn't move on to Dragon Age so what's the next release he might leave to go shitpost against?
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>>500326587
P3 is like a 6 or 7
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>>500326625
Dragon's Dogma 2 if he wants an actual unfinished game. Can't believe I was hyped for it.
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>>500325707
Honestly I wouldn't mind a remaster because leaving the game as it is now would feel like a waste. It has great foundations with its characters and story, but it's rushed as fuck and would definitely benefit a lot from more polish, specifically the monsters/dungeons variation and the post-opera plot.
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When your gang presents Joanna at the tournament, and she said something like "Gideaux will be able to tell if I'm lying or not", what did she mean by this?
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>>500315184
>virgin uncle
Not after he was done with Lina
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>>500325987
SMT's enemy variety would be cool if it didn't reuse 90% of the models from Nocturne and/or P5 or low res .jpgs of old Kaneko artwork for the 3DS era games
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>>500327010
This game is waaaaay more unfinished
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>>500327150
Implication that they have some sort of existing relationship through the church.
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>>500327150
Gideaux's bald head can detect lies
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>>500327198
It's not even variety at that point, is it.
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>>500327150
He could attest to her piety since they're both devout Sanctists. Could also suggest what >>500327331 said.
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It's gonna be wildly sad to see this fucking spamming /v/tard in this thread like 6 months from now bros, you know because of the new anti spam features its actually some fat jaded loser sitting at his computer too. Not a bot like Derrick was for a little while
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>>500327198
Regardless of how you feel about the reuse of models, those games still blow Metaphor out of the water regarding enemy variety. How many unique enemies are there in this game, anyway? It's gotta be less than a hundred. SMTVV had what, 250 demons?
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>>500327719
Yes but I've been putting up with Derrick for over 2 years at this point. I'm numb to it.
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>>500327225
Nah it actually has the problems you're been whining all day about. Half of the game is missing and the monster variety is worse then the first game.
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>goblin
>goblin with a sword
>goblin with a bow
>Bigger goblin
Nice game metakeks
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What in the fuck was the point of that blood pact tool with Louis?
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>>500327719
>game is an unfinished mess
>everyone calls it an unfinished mess
>It's everyone's fault and not the fault of the game for being an unfinished mess
You cunts can't even get someone to talk about this shit without prefacing it with how it turns to soft dogshit. It's P5 all over again.
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>>500327946
It's a common trope. Louis is exactly the kind of guy to have some retarded display of loyalty like that.
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>>500327946
Cut content
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So is Metaphor any good?
I've gotten past the tutorial boss of the demo so far. The one where the MC gets their bootleg Persona.
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>>500328207
Yeah best game I've played in years.
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>>500328207
It's an unfinished mess.
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>>500328207
Yea. Sex with Eupha
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is it normal that junah is gaining enough agility to compete with heismay after I made her thief>assassin>ninja?
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>>500327946
Red herring/gag. They play it for laughs almost immediately so I doubt it was ever going to be more than that.
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>>500328207
Might as well finish the demo then decide if it's good.
I thought it was pretty good, I'm pretty tempted with doing a NG+ run which I don't usually do for JRPGs
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>>500328442
Who fucking cares when you just kill everything instantly
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>>500328207
It's peak JRPG atlus-slop but fun as fuck. If you enjoy that type of game, you'll enjoy this
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>>500328442
Women are sneaky by nature, sounds about right to me.
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>>500328013
You (or if its not you then whoever keeps posting "game's unfinished" every 5 minutes) are like if I went into a gacha thread and started spamming >GACHA IS BAD YOU'RE BEING SCAMMED ANONS!!!!
every 5 minutes. It literally accomplishes nothing. Yeah Metaphors side dungeons can get boring after a while, Louis as a boss is a retarded pushover, and Junah's entire character is about "the power of singing" and waaaaaah my sister, but the game is still overall a fun experience you faggot
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>>500327719
i think this is the same guy that spent years seething over P5 in /pg/
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>>500328207
Liked it enough to call it my GOTY. Refines all the things I liked from various Atlus games and makes it better.
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Gallica will be cucked watching other women being able to sexually satisfy Will.
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>>500328798
>implying it wouldn't be satisfying as fuck having your little fairy girlfriend go all soapland on your cock or rim you
low test
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>>500328995
>rim you
>fairy
does she go straight into your anus or something?
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>>500328798
Implying Gallica isn't organizing every single tryst William has
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>>500328798
Will would be a honorless heathen if he cheated on his wife Gallica
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>>500328670
>pays $70 + tip to eat unfinished brokenn shit
No one will ever vote this crap game of the year
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This being a year where an Atlus game is at the forefront of being many people's GOTY is enough to make any detractor seethe. And I sure as hell don't mean the remake or rerelease.
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>>500329183
Rimjobs don't have to go any deeper than the surface, you know. That's why it's called a rimjob. Because the focus tends to be on the rim. Just imagine what that little tongue could do.
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>>500329402
>paying
I don't pay for modern Atlus games, I'm not THAT retarded, don't worry
>No one will ever vote this crap game of the year
Weebs are a powerful force anon, especially Atlus weebs
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>>500328798
>>500329316
honestly I don't think fairies have any sexual attraction towards humans
a dog wouldn't feel anything from seeing their owner fuck another human, I reckon it'd be the same for Gallica
therefore she wouldn't be a cuck
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The shitposter would have you believe the company that celebrates 1 million sales week one would pay for highly positive reviews.
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>>500329910
The game makes it pretty clear that fairies become more similar to humans when they actively focus on accomplishing things instead of just fucking around doing fairy shit. Also Gallica ends up saying that she wants to be with you forever at least two or three times, she seems pretty smitten to me.
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>>500330035
Not even week 1 it was like hour 5
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>>500319883
Best you can do is find JP artists who retweet other stuff and go from there. Not going to try to understand those Chinese only sites or worse, postype.
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>>500330237
well I'm sure my dog would want to stay with me forever, but that doesn't mean she wants to fuck me
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>>500321252
Bless you.
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>>500330035
1 million sales will not save this shit from all the terrible word of mouth and how it just falls apart halfway through
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He gives more (You)s than he gets.
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>>500316784
>>just want to see fucked up china fujo art
There isn't that much, if there's anything noteworthy I can just pass it around on /cm/.
Weibo's also the same, much harder to navigate but haven't found any art there yet.
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>>500330546
Sounds like a skill issue, my dog fucks me all the time.
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>>500330852
All reaction to this game is some variety of not remembering it a week from now
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>1 million sales is bad
this fucking guy
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>>500330626
Soooo fucking CUTE!!!
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>>500327150
I'm confused how Forden just took her word and they dropped the idea we coerced her. Given we work for Louis at that point it's possible.
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>>500331048
It's dogshit. And it will not keep any momentum going because the game is massively incomplete and anyone that actually finishes it comes away thinking so
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>>500330927
very wholesome
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>>500330546
>comparing your dog to a sentient, emotionally intelligent fairy with free will and the ability to solve problems and make decisions
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>>500331208
Cut content
Rushed dialogue
Rewrites
Take your pick because this gold plated turd has it all
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>>500331208
No person would go through the trouble of picking up a bounty, then claim the ruler of a town was behind the crimes with a monster, and then make said ruler agree to all of that.
They'd just claim the bounty.

>>500331259
>>500331440
>shitposting on cooldown
New low
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>>500331208
The alternative would've been a shouting match that risked looking even uglier for the church. The way things played out can be largely pinned on Joanna just going rogue, especially since the actual reason for her crimes is never disclosed to the public.
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>>500327150
I like the schizo theory that he was the father of her child
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>>500331578
Say whatever shit helps you sleep at night but no one is happy with the state of this game nor is it some revolutionary rpg
It has been astroturfed for political points and that will keep it away from any geme of the year awards and they will not support it after launch
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>political points
is this nigga for real
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I'm happy with the game getting 1 million sales and more
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>>500332129
>and more
Not with that entire second half of the game, story, characters, and gameplay
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>1 million sales
>potential goty
we won bigly
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>>500327946
It seemed like just a world building/flavor thing. It already feels like you're meeting up with yakuza thugs with the intent to join the "family" when you meet Fidelio and Basilio at the club. The "blood pact" thing felt like an appropriate ritual for being sworn into a criminal organization.
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>>500330883
I'd imagine it's a hard sell to people who don't know much about it.

Persona at least has a guaranteed fanbase due to your high school romances but SMT is tiny in terms of fanbase compared to say, FF or Tales of. Not helped that $70 is a big price tag to clear for a new title when I think BG3 was $60.

Strohl is the first male character the protagonist forms a bond with and he's so vanilla it probably doesn't appeal to the dacryphilia fuckers or trauma fans. On top of that, you don't meet anyone besides Louis who'd give them idea until perhaps 39 hours into the game.
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>>500333125
There's More or the Prince.
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heismay's story
>my son
>my son
>waaah my son
>I made a collar out of the bones of my son
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>>500334310
yeah it's good
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>>500334116
>the Prince
I wonder if fujos would like the idea of selfcest with them. The game doesn't exactly sell you on their supposed 'bond' through the story, to the point you forget "oh yeah, I'm supposedly working to get his curse undone" but it doesn't truly end up mattering. Regardless though, even if selfcest, it still would be too vanilla
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>>500334310
>hurr why is this dad so sad about his son getting beaten to death
Imagine not liking Heismay. I've got a lot of complaints about this game and Heismay is in none of them. He's rad, his side story is rad. Emotionally effective while also providing a good amount of worldbuilding regarding the eugief.
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>>500334310
junah's story
>singing!! :D
>the powa of song:D
>singing makes me feel happie!!!
> WAAAAAAAHH MY SISTA DIED
> I was a slave when I was young, ANYWAY
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>>500334310
>the king often brings up his wife
>Heismay never does
what is the meaning of this ?
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Are there any articles or sites showing direct comparisons between the Bosch paintings and the human designs? I'm interested in checking this topic out.
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>>500334831
He reproduced asexually
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>>500333125
Vanilla is popular too and Strohl/Will are getting a lot of art.
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>>500334310
I was thinking the same thing up until he imagined his son running around in the field. That's when it hit me right in the feels.
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>>500334961
This reddit page has a couple of them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JRPG/comments/1cbzq12/metaphor_refantazio_monsters_are_influenced_by/#lightbox
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>>500334746
based old school basic bitch story
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>>500334961
https://www.thegamer.com/metaphor-refantazio-humans-bosch-art-inspired-them/
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Gonna slam that red haired girl
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>Armageddon's Final Sire doesn't have a custom cutscene

Wtf fucking lame
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>>500335642
It's almost like the game is incomplete and has no polish to speak of
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Metaphor 2 ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6ZkWBjgnIY
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>>500335135
That and his Rank 8 hit hard. Easily one of the best bonds in the game, alongside Alonzo and Strohl.
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bat soup
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>>500335767
Still made 1 million for an unfinished game lol
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>>500334831
He brings up his first love, who I assume was the mother of his child, in the sauna, but you don't get to hear the details.
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>>500336024
1 million is nothing. unfinished trash with NPC appeal gets bought up all the time and they crash and burn all the same
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The 2nd last dungeon in this game just screams Persona 5
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>>500335937
>he basically calls you his son
One of my favorite bonds along with Maria, Alonzo and Brigitte
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unfinished this unfinished that
fucking idiot
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>>500337089
another reason that I always run merchant on my team
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>>500336446
I wouldn't call a company making back most of their budget and more, crashing and burning.
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>>500336626
unfinished story unfinished gameplay
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>>500335620
He's so cute.
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>unfinished
>still GOTY contender
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>>500337826
can't even gloat without admitting it's shit typical p5retard behavior
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>>500338249
you'd think japs would've learned that light hair colors don't match brown/dark skin, unless it's pure white hair
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>>500337826
I'd finish inside ann haha
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Is he chimping out because asmongold told his whole audience that this was the 2nd best game this year
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>>500338483
asmonjew didn't even finish the game
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>>500338483
2nd best halfway through a broken unfinished game is still not GOTY retard
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>>500338249
Going on dates with my wife Gallica.
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>>500334746
>Atlus gives character lame arc
>Also gives them fully party power charge and makes physical the best damage type so your forced to run them
mfw
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>>500338728
Asmongold and his audience will make sure this game will be goty
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So are they stopping children form enlisting in the military in the end
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>>500339016
You think they had time to think something like that through when the game launched like this
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>>500338483
I have a schizo theory that this is just the blue archive scatposter finding something else to be mentally ill over.
Just replace all instances of "unfinished mess" with scat images and they're exactly the same. The only difference is he doesn't need to roll through vpn's now.
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>>500337826
based
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Is the dragon temple after the three towers permanently in dread mode? You can't use weatherman to remove it.
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>>500339191
Everything is permanantly in dread mode, but it just replaces regular weather and doesn't mess with press turns like other inclement weather.
Besides, you can just teleport straight to the boss fight since it's right after the first Magla Hollow anyways.
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>>500339191
I think Dread is the mild weather at that point in the game, Blight is the bad weather.
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oh, yeah, i mixed up my weathers, nevermind that shit.
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>>500338249
feet
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>31 posts mentioning that word
Dude, learn to cope with Metaphor being an all time great.
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gallica's gonna have to watch all her friends die of old age haha
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>>500340230
isn't the prince still a magla creature?
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>>500331208
Forden knows the church is corrupt as fuck. He's probably had to shuffle similar things under the rug in the past. But this being as public as it was and him being in the running he couldn't question anything, he just had to save face.
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>>500340230
>>500340394
This will be the main theme of Metaphor 2, the inevitability of the passage of time.
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>>500340394
No. He has a physical body now.
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>>500340230
She will live as long as she is motivated to, i.e. as long as her husband (me) is still alive.
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>>500340689
even after merging with the corpse you can still see magla particles seeping into him at his feet in dungeons and shit, like the way you see them accumulate at those street lanterns
another thing was with both bodies dissolving into golden magla(?) particles before merging
it's kind of ambiguous imo
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Remember. No matter how many flaws this game has, at least it's not a reload.
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>>500341420
Reload is the better game
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>>500341803
P3FES is
Reload is garbage like your opinion
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I'm in the last month and got the 3 dragon side quests. I just beat one but damn it was tough. Did the bad weather affect the difficulty? Should i beat the other 2 dragons or do the main dungeon? I'm level 60
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>>500341803
Even portable mogs reload
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>>500341964
skybound avatar? you're fine
you can do either
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I mog reload
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>>500341964
I did them before the main dungeon, they're pretty tough, but they're a fun challenge.
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>>500341964
Dread shouldn't affect the difficulty.
You can beat them after you complete the palace.
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>Veilguard comes out
>Metaphor doomposting suddenly vanishes from everywhere its present
People are really just addicted to games flopping huh
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>>500342929
A mentally ill /v/schizo isn't people.
But yes they have been itching for a new tortanic for over a decade and now they just scream into the void trying to manifest their reality.
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>halfway to Martira
>"*Hakhem* Captain speaking. By the way, there's a bally important thing to keep in mind now that we are doing extended runs with our beauty of a runner."
>"Quick engineering lesson. Gauntlet runners are made of monster parts kept alive with magla, some of you might have seen the bally heart igniter in the back chamber below. Same goes with the legs and all, they're from of a huge monster. With me so far?"
>"Good. The metal of the cockpit doesn't fuse well with flesh, so, to put it in technical terms, runners are not 'attached to the legs behind', but built around and 'axially suspended in front of them', so to speak. Does a bally good job amortizing the steps, doesn't it?"
>"However, with the extended runs at daytime, there is considerable mechanical chafing occurring around the mounting points from the prolonged movements."
>"Miss Hulkenberg, since ye're the newest addition, I'll open you the maintenance hatch on the underside. There's a lubricant pail and some rags, you're on penis duty tonight."
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>>500343614
They've gotten it too and they still itch for it. Concord was a bigger flop than TOR ever was and they still clamor for more.
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>Hulkenberg's tube is right next to Will's on the gauntlet runner
Do you think she can hear Will and Gallica making out before they fall asleep?
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>when this plays again
https://youtu.be/0uGoRTbcJp0

Kino.
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>royal archetype reveal
BRAVO FATLUS
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>>500345141
That whole fight was kino even if it was easy
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>>500344419
As someone who slept in submarine racks, you definitely can but you generally just get so used to background noise and movement you just tune it out. Smell and non-red light however is what pisses people the most off
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how do I get Catherina to join me in dungeons, do I need to talk to her beforehand?
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>>500346301
I think it's just random. You'll see her at the dungeon entrance if she's going to help you on a given dungeon.
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>>500345528
You can't unlock the King Archetype
Game lost a whole point off of its outta 10 rating for me because of that.
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>>500346301
She only shows up for the dungeons near Altabury, its not a random chance.
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How big were Fordelio's death flags? Didn't watch the spoilers trailer enough for me to confirm it, but I was getting suspicious with the whole leg thing.
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>>500348143
I didn't watch trailers but knew it was going to happen because of the cover art.
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>>500346684
It's kind of funny how similar that whole section was to the protagonist summoning Satanael in P5 except that section was technically playable and then
Satanael was available in NG+, but then Metaphor could only do anime cutscene.
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>"Boy and his fairy companion" referense from that one random fairy on Etrian Island.
Is that a SMT3 reference or there were any other ATLUS games with similar setup? I remember Raidou girl has a fairy companion but nothing else.
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>>500348143
decently huge, I saw it coming at least an hour or 2 before it happened because of some cheesy dialogue
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So the fire dragon will deal 9999 damage aoe no matter what? Does this game want me to makarakarn cheese?
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>>500348257
Because we already have Prince
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>>500348285
think it might just be the classic zelda trope (link + navi)
she's referencing the first hero king/seeker, that being (You)(irl), probably
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>>500348285
I don't think it's a reference to another Atlus game, I think it's just a story original to Metaphor. By far the most notable boy and fairy pairing in an Atlus game prior to Metaphor is Nocturne, maybe that's the only notable pairing of that kind in an Atlus game prior to Metaphor even, but the Demi-fiend wasn't the king of Metaphor's setting so it doesn't add up. The game has a lot of references to other Atlus games, but not everything's a reference, and I don't think that's one.
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>>500348285
It might be a reference to SMT3 or other games, but the specific boy and fairy that they're talking about is one you meet later on during the dragon trial sidequest. The fairy companion of the Hero King, the first king of Euchronia.
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>>500348535
you need fire null/repel shit, that's the gimmick
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>>500348535
It'll do 9999 damage every turn after it applies charm, so you need to have something to nullify fire for the turn after that.
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>>500346301
She shows up to all (and only) dungeons that she can get to in her own landbound runner. If you have to fly to the dungeon, she can't come.
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>>500348227
This. I don't know why they chose not to have a low-res Fidelio next to Bas on the cover.
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Fool: Will
Magician: Gallica
Emperor: Strohl
Empress: Hulkenberg
Justice: Heismay
Lovers: Junah
Priestess: Eupha
Hanged Man: Basilio

Temperance: Maria
Strength: Bardon
Fortune: Brigitta
Hierophant: More
Devil: Alonzo
Hermit: Neuras
Chariot: Catherina
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>>500348489
When they started talking about deserting from Louis's army to go open a restaurant I knew it was over
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>>500349245
This is not Megami Tensei.
This is NOT Persona.
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>>500348143
That scene was so retarded because Louis was threatening them to get info on the prince's whereabouts but still fired off the shot without getting any info, then leaves and Zorba finds the prince anyway. Felt like a forced death.
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I want to do the most loving and depraved things with Bas.
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Basilio saying "our Del" gives me a tingly feeling
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>>500350417
I hate when companies do digital art books, just let me buy the real shit.
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>>500269315
If the RK had more options for guarding the entire party shed be more interesting. Probably broken as shit too, but thats about that. If her guard made everyone take half damage and granted immunity to status effects shed be top tier, but no, its just a way to protect from single target damage, which just isn't a real threat to begin with.
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>>500349245
Junah would be Moon.
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>>500352132
>>500334746
Yeah I can see why
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gallica....
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>unlock royal summoner
>all the summons I spent money on and farmed out are now useless
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>>500354720
your cheevos bro
also the description says what kind of summoner summons the summon, i.e. elite summoner or not
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>>500341803
>P3FES is
not event close desu
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>>500354720
It's even worse because RS's Synth Summons are fucking trash
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>>500342043
The only good thing that came out of p3p is Time.
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>probably more than half a decade before next game is released
pain
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>>500348257
>>500346684
Even if it wasn't playable, the King Archetype should have been the equipped Archetype you have while walking around in the epilogue
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>>500324298
Atlus making a story unfinished on purpose so people can pay full price for the same game with added DLC is a known fact by now.
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>>500354720
They should've added a 3rd tier of summons in Akademia upon unlocking RS, it's such a rip off :(((
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>>500355493
I want to fuck the two of them.
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I don't even understand Louis' motive after beating the game. His deal with the village burning and how it led to what he's trying to do with the world now is such an unbelievable leap it makes no sense.
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>>500356112
Filtered.
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>>500334831
If you go into the Hot Springs Heismay will sometimes come in butt-ass naked and say because he's naked he feels more comfortable talking about intimate subjects and spends your soak telling you stories about his first love.
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>>500356252
>buy game
>beat game
>Filtered
Okay anon, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>500356112
I thought he was just gonna be the Reddit atheist "kill all religion" type but he just turned out to be a whiny Chaosfag.
People keep trying to tell me this game can't be compared to SMT or Persona but the game has almost no original bones in its body in comparison to the two.
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>he spent money on Metaphor
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>>500356112
Copes often do. It was about 15 years from the incident to where he's at now and after repeated betrayal and disappointment, he decided that we had to recreate civilization if we were to survive, but at the end of the day it was lashing out due to trauma left buried. Try reading the story some time.
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>>500356252
you clearly don't know what that word means
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>>500356308
>>500356503
Filtered.
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>>500356274
That's just a Japanese thing
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Game is a broken unfinished mess.
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>>500356112
yes anon louis is a hypocrite and no better than a whiny child, that's the point
"it's not fair that I suffered, others will too"
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>Campaign on the promise of keeping everybody safe
>Secretly decide to just nuke the planet if I win
See, this is clearly the will of people to nuke the planet because they voted for me, that's how it works, sorry
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>didn't pay enough attention to my HP while farming respawning enemies
>lose two hours of grinding
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>>500356770
Are you still saying this lmao haven't you taken enough cocks up your ass by now
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>>500356274
This would looking like grooming in a normal body
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>>500356815
idiot
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>>500356826
Bas still hasn't fucked me so no I haven't
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Louis is good for the first 5 hours
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>>500356112
Walter has a more believable reason in his Chaos route in SMT4 than Louis does tbqh
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The game is good until altabury
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>>500356930
Is his hole that loose?
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>>500356982
I actually think Walter is one of the better Chaos reps because he's so consistent in his ideals to the point where he knows that he'll need to die to achieve his goals and is fully willing to go through it with.
No "I'm one the strong ones and will live above everyone else!" cope or anything
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Metaphor > Persona
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>>500356112
Louis' philosophy is fairly simple:

Louis doesn't trust anyone. He believes all people should be strong enough to care for themselves. He sees sources of collective power (like the Church who killed his family) are ineffectual and weak at best and sources of power for evil people to control the masses at worst. Therefore he wants to do two things: rid the world of people who are too weak of body or mind to fight for themselves and tear down all established systems that cause people to collaborate. So, he wants to turn everyone into Human monsters because: 1) it will make all the weak people into monsters that the strong can fight (to grow stronger) and 2) The massive influx of monsters will make conventional civilization and its structures cease to exist. 3) People who turn into monsters and regain their human form become mentally and physically stronger.

Louis's plan is extreme because he's traumatized and fundamentally flawed, but it would actually create the world he wants. Even if that world is a bunch of desperate lone survivors fighting for their lives against unending hordes of monsters forever
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tis' true
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>>500357781
Thanks anon, that laid it out a little clearer, I appreciate you.
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tits
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>>500357090
but that's the point where you have to start thinking about what's happening
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Louis needed rape correction simple AS
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>>500358338
Thinking about how things unfold for a second makes it worse
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>>500357781
>I hate the monopoly of power!
>Wants to create a literal monopoly of power
Not the brightest knife in the lightbulb drawer I'm afraid
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>>500287975
Governs?
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>>500357781
That's not really what he's trying to make. He has no concerns or issues killing the resulting old humans and it's the new humanity that's going to be in charge of everything and he is culling all the ones that in his mind don't meet the requirements for that. He's not even casting a spell that will make you lose yourself automatically if you aren't physically strong, but at the same time he isn't giving everyone a handout.
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>>500358698
I'm sure it does to an unfinished mind.
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>>500358698
You say that, but the ones shitting on it are the ones that seem to understand it the least.
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>>500358698
Not if you're any good at thinking
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>>500338654
Look at those huge eyes, I want to lick em.
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>>500356982
snrk
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Still no adequate explanation for why Gallica isn't a party member.
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Everyone knows that this game goes straight to shit in the second half and it's an UNFINISHED MESS
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>>500359125
cut content
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>>500359125
>doesn't give you the bard class
WHY
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>takes an hour off at most before resuming the same old shitposting
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>>500358867
But that is exactly what he wants. His plans regarding "new humanity" aren't outlined at all outside of "new good, old dead". You're also forgetting the part where physical strength does come into play. Even if you have the will to overcome your anxiety, it matters for dick when a horde of humans crashes the party. The weak are going to die and he knows that.
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What was the point of switching the lances when the arch mage would obviously know one was fake
Even the brothers knew
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>>500359472
game is not finished
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>>500359532
I finished it yesterday
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why are there no cool events like the camping trip or hawaii trip or beach trip or japanese inn trip or summer festival from the persona series
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>>500359628
the game was launched in an unfinished state
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>>500359628
>>>/pg/
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>>500359628
>>>/pg/
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>>500359628
>He didn't get the Eupha vacation event that results in a pregnancy scare
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>>500359385
There being a resulting army of monsters again isn't even part of his scenario because he already has creating humans and killing them down to a science
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>>500359707
>>500359773
it uses the same social sim elements why would there not be any special events
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>>500359472
altaburybros our response
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>>500359798
it's a broken mess of a game
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>>500356112
He's just your average chaosfag mixed with Char Aznable.
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Metaphor: Refantazio: Recoronation: Recrowned Edition will have all the cut content trust Hasino's plan
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>Eupha is unable to wield the Drakydios lance after the fight against Virga's boss
>Summoner has to use staves
>She is literally the battle priestess meant to fight alongside Eht and she cannot do that without Achetype swapping
>Hulkenberg can
>It's not even her best lance by the endgame
???
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>>500359982
the game isn't complete
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The best thing about ESL shitters is how easily you can filter them. They can't let go of the few words they recently learned.
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>>500359628
>hawaii trip
>cool
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>>500359372
Is this a taste of /pg/? I never visited that general despite playing Persona games.

>>500360040
You can filter the words unfinished or broken mess and poof he's gone
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>>500359796
Did you not understand what his plan actually was? He's not going around turning individual people into humans. His plan even before the election was to take the Royal Magic's pooled anxiety and return it to the population which would on its own cause the influx of humans. Sure, sure, HE can kill humans, and maybe you if you collaborated with him. But there's an entire country out there that's about to get raped by human spawn.
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>>500359472
This is probably just a shitpost but Eupha who can detect that shit way better than paripus can couldn't even tell because Forden is basically drenched in magla
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>boss turn always starts with Dekaja or Dekunda
STOP THAT IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING
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>>500359125
she's too small
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>>500360172
So then they start killing them, and poof. Your new society is basically established. This is why he doesn't mention the human hordes even once in his breakdown because they're basically a non-issue. This is also why they talk about how Louis was turning people into humans and slaughtering them much earlier in the game. He doesn't want to just torch the world and have nothing left afterward.
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>>500360434
Just make her super magically oriented over STR oriented. Like, the opposite of Basilio, basically. Besides, Archetypes give you enlarged, powerful bodies.
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>>500360429
It's a check anon. If they don't do that, then they'll just nuke you.
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>>500360228
Forden got that magla bukakke
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>cooking progress carries over into NG+
cool
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THERE IS NO POWER... IN YOUR FANTASY
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>>500360228
Shouldn't the fake with 0 magla be able to tell apart from the ancient relic
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>>500360491
No, dude, you are fundamentally misunderstanding what is going to happen. Everyone, everywhere, is going to be under constant assault from humans. New humans are going to keep forming too. "They just kill them" is not a viable solution in the least. By the time Louis gets around to wiping out the last human, if he can be assed to, the world is completely and utterly FUBAR. If he took so much as even a month to clean up, and that's generous considering scope of the issue and the Charadius is now useless as well, he's going to have all of a few hundred at best to rebuild civilization with.
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>>500359628
None unfortunately. One of my gripes with this game is how disconnected the party feels.
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>>500361015
This is just you making things up at this point. Nowhere is any of that established by the game, not even by Rella's vision
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also skiing trip in persona 4 golden
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>>500359628
>>500361221
Thank you for reminding me of basically every sequence I hated from P4
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>>500361153
He's good at making things up and convincing himself that it's legit. Got his ass handed to him a couple times because of it tho
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Metaphor ReFantazio: Afterstory – The Royal Struggle

So, our hero Will finally becomes king! But what no one told him is that sitting on the throne isn’t all legendary quests and epic battles—it’s endless paperwork, royal speeches, and figuring out how to keep the kingdom’s budget from crumbling like his sanity. Welcome to Metaphor ReFantazio: Afterstory – The Royal Struggle, where the only thing more daunting than dragons is the mountain of royal expense reports.

As King, Will finds himself in over his head, navigating through kingdom complaints: from farmers demanding compensation for “unauthorized sheep stampedes” to wizards annoyed by new noise ordinances against late-night spell casting. His old companions pitch in to help, but they’re just as out of their element—Will’s former healer now runs “The Royal Wellness Spa” (mostly herbal tea and questionable yoga classes), and the mage has taken over as “Royal Financial Advisor,” despite barely understanding basic math.

But that’s not all. Will’s greatest challenge arrives when he’s forced to attend the annual Royal Banquet, a 10-course meal where nobles argue about soup recipes and gossip about neighboring kingdoms. Between managing royal feasts and hosting diplomatic meetings with creatures he used to fight, Will starts to wonder if maybe, just maybe, adventuring was easier.
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>>500360429
>Dekaja!
>Deukunda!
>Soul Scream!
>Boss gained four blinking icons!
Fishing for Hulkenberg omni-barrier procs in every fight in the lategame just isn't all that fun
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>>500359628
>why does this game have eupha and hulkenberg getting high from fruit and not any of that retarded shit from persona
Idk but thank god for whoever made that decision
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>>500361153
It was though. At the beginning and at the end. That's entirely what the "DAY OF CALAMITY" was meant to be. Only with Louis behind it, it's not just a Grand Trad problem, it's a world problem. What do you think his plan was? To go around beaming everyone? No, he wanted to put an end to the King's Magic and give the remaining anxiety back to his people to, in his own words, get others to stop burdening each other with their anxieties. I'm serious about answering what you think his plan was, how do you believe he intends to accomplish his goal of creating his new humanity? One by one? Group by group?
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>>500361601
step 1: cast is on the whole population step 2: go kill the humans
step 3: do new society shit
this is not that hard. anything you've said about there just being constant battle forever is pure projection.
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>>500358793
Goblins.
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>>500361793
I'm just going to assume you're not him because even he wouldn't make a post so retarded.
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game wouldve been better if MC could switch between archetypes at will during combat like personas
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>>500362014
Your interpretation of the game is shit just get over it
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>>500362060
Ask him to back any of his claims up with something real and watch him lose his mind
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>>500362035
>at will
But he is will
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>>500362060
You're the one thinking that there will be zero issues arising from flooding the world with humans. Dear God man, what is wrong with your brain?
What, do you think the humans are going to just patiently wait to be slain? That there's only going to be one per city? Or that the resulting new balance of anxiety won't create more? It's not about there being some big forever battle, it's about you not realizing just how big of a fucking problem this is.
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>>500362014
never post this retarded image again
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>Says that the strong will survive and prosper because they will overcome their transformations
>Will, who is undoubtedly stronger than him, can't even beat it without killing himself
Did Louis even test this shit on himself? Because if Will can't survive, how the fuck could he?
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>>500361015
NTA and minor thing but doesn't the royal scepter magic only affect the people of euchronia? It seems too OP for it to transfer their anxiety to the whole world cause it would be diluted. Rella's vision was only about their country. Unless it turns everyone into sea or flying humans the rest of the world won't know wtf happened there.
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HOOOOOOOOOOOLY
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>>500362514
In Lou's defense, the first time he was caught of guard and the second, he was absolutely FLOODED with magla.
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>>500362514
That is why I consider Louis to be retarded or super short sighted. Nobody was going to be able to beat it if the MC couldn't beat it.
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>>500362572
>discord
>baby numbers
grim
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>>500362571
Meant world as in world of Metaphor. But yeah, it's range is limited to Euchronia and possibly surrounding territories to the norf.
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is eupha ever barefoot :3
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>>500360597
>transforms into her archetype form
>still barely Heismay sized
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>>500362572
glad the persona series has a 9999 damage cap to prevent cheese like this
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>>500362808
A JRPG scared of you breaking it too much is a bitch made JRPG and is instantly garbage. Any JRPG where you can't break it in fucking half is worthless and not worth playing.
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>>500362514
He turned in the bad end thoughbeit
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Is this that same P3 schizo that went on a huge rant the other day because no one bought his Louis criticisms then too

>>500362514
He never would've tried it on himself. The irony in Louis' entire viewpoint is that no one is immune to fear or anxiety, but he was convinced that he was and anyone that saw the world the way he did would too. He'll get his new world in the end with a better people than the last one but in the end everyone looks to the leadership in their world to shoulder their anxieties and he can't change that.
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>>500362514
He doesn't know how Will survived, only that he did from Zorba's secondhand account so it makes sense that he assumes the survival was due to willpower. Besides, his plan isn't supposed to make sense because it's just a cope from having his village burned down and his grief at the state of the kingdom.
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>Everyone saying the scepter can't hold everyone's anxiety forever
Why can't we just, like, shoot a beam of turbo anxiety into space every couple days or so. Just cast some random dipshit spell at a random constellation bro. Make the church say it's some worshipping ritual. Make me king I'll have this shit solved.
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>13 days left
>all followers and virtues maxed
The hell do I do now?
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>>500363138
Just travel around and do laundry for free extra MP I guess.
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The scepter magic is gone in the good ending right? But what happens to people who are living in poverty and can't put food on the table etc. Won't that mean more braindead bodies in the slums? They don't build an orphanage or anything yet either
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>the only party member CONFIRMED to have gotten laid
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>pump AGI
>get hit just as much as other teammates
What's the point of this stat?
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>>500362674
For the 100th time the human spell has nothing to do with physical strength, it has to do with will (kek). Succumbing to fear and anxiety is what turns you into a monster and while being like Louis gives you the greatest chance of not succumbing you aren't immune
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>>500363496
taking the first action and steal chance i guess
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is it true that if you're too racist you can't pick some dialogue options
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>>500363496
Agility really only comes into it if you have evasion buffs/debuffs in play. Or the thief skills that increase evasion.
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>>500363489
What's his secret
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>>500363534
He didn't say it was because of physical strength, but the MC already has tempered their anxieties and willpower to the point of breaking out archetypes. If he can't hack it, then who the hell can?
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>>500363138
Finish the collosseum
Finish the gold beetles quest for dragon slayers sword
Bathing in camp for stats
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>Incredible! This power feels stronger still!
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>>500363642
Tolerance is one of the social stats in the game. If you don't have enough of it, you won't be able to relate to some of the more out there characters in the game which are going through tough times or are from strange cultures. Tolerance is increased by expanding your perspectives by doing things like talking to people from other tribes.

So yes, you become less racist enabling you to become friends with people of other races.
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Will really out here selling his bath water. Times are tough, man.
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It was a good choice not having romance so we could just avoid all the will they won't they.
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>>500364272
>so we could just avoid all the will they won't they
But that's exactly what we got BECAUSE romance wasn't added.
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>>500364272
And then they gave us the double hand hold with Eupha to make her the only canon option
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>>500364365
The only pairing that was true for was Louis and Zorba
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>>500363689
How bullshit is getting all the gold beetles without a guide? I think I've only found like 11 so far in the 4th main city.
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>>500362674
that talking tooth could beat it
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>>500364636
Surprised he wasn't a super boss. Would have been funny.
>Toothpocalypse
>Self-cleaning dekaja skill
>Myriad Tooth Truths
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>>500364523
Yup. Fucking cry about it Junahfag
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>>500364771
>tells you exactly how to beat every phase of his fight because he's still the tutorial tooth, even as your opponent
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>>500364523
A girl who can so casually joke about deepthroating some guy she just met is not fit for marriage.
I'll take the one that drugs you with exotic fruits and rapes you any day.
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>>500363674
Anxiety doesn't have a powerlevel. Will can spend the entire game fighting and then start thinking he was being hopelessly idealistic the whole time because it never goes away and it can take almost nothing at all to come right back. All it takes for any of the party members to be at risk of getting culled again is Will deciding Louis has a point. This is really the thing that Louis doesn't understand, because he thinks "providence of power" is the mental fortitude to break that cycle in the individual. If he had succeeded, he would really be benefitting from the substantial reduction in population, and not the finer points of his ideology being proven correct.
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>>500364556
There are 50 gold beetles but you only need 46 to get all rewards
Basically if you get all those beetles in side dungeons and side quest you good to go
The rest was in towns
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>>500365286
Where the hell does this Eupha chibi art come from?
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>>500365317
Are they always highlighted with the blue diamonds? I've done every dungeon getting every single possible one so far and the ones I remember were highlighted on the minimap.
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>>500365286
I get that anxiety on its own has no power level, but tempering our feelings against it absolutely does. Some weak willed schmuck can have a breakdown over a day gone wrong while someone with a far more tempered constitution can power through trains of tragedy while at worse being a tad weary. This was the basis for Sanctism at first, trying to teach the population something close to stoicism and self-control. Confronting and tempering your anxieties and fears is the only way forward in that case and there would be few better at it than Will by that point.
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>>500365496
Yeah they are blue diamonds in dungeons
But you need to get close for highlighted
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>>500365460
pg
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>>500365460
a drawfag that used to post in /pg/
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>>500365823
That's good then. Hopefully I can do it on my first playthrough.
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>>500359982
Send Eupha down the warrior line and feed her strength incenses anon!
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>>500356274
Sex with Heismay
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where bread
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>>500365774
>there would be few better at it than Will by that point
The protagonist is probably in one of the worst positions for this being at the very bottom of the social structure, and standardized discrimination against eldas is basically a way to take your own anxieties and push them onto something else not entirely unlike how the mustari were putting it all on Eupha. His whole identity is basically a fantasy for the prince to project all his own insecurities onto as well as cope with his family being destroyed and there being no possibility of him becoming the hero he wanted to be. Will is made up of a very fragile dream to begin with so it's not difficult at all to imagine plenty of people that would be much better at dealing with their anxiety than he would. Being able to use Archetypes period doesn't correlate to how worthy you are of being someone that can shoulder everyone else's anxieties like the actual king needs to either - it takes a very long time before your Archetype stops calling you a worthless faggot, if anything being able to turn anxiety into strength in the image of these old kings who still failed to create the world they were collectively striving for and in the end Will probably won't get there either but not for lack of trying is just the first step.
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>>500367648
Stop making interesting points, you. I'm trying to sleep without getting distracted.
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>>500367648
stop avatarfagging
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Make a Hulkenberg thread
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Euphaposting makes the shitposter seethe
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>>500363489
His son could have been adopted. It's literally not confirmed.
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Is there a way to be on the walker at night during the last stretch? I wanna use the rainbow bathsalts.
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>>500368163
just go to a camp and stay there
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>>500367648
Alright I'm responding anyway.
You're bringing up two conflicting ideas.
Will absolutely has the worst of it, but despite that, he's still pushing forward through it all, not lashing out at others or the world, and still spending most of his time concerning himself with others with the ultimate goal of the throne.
But then you say that doesn't mean he's any better at tempering his anxieties than others, but I'd say it means the exact opposite. This guy is a certified chad facing down the entire world from the bottom and still makes time to see a small child smile. There are none better at it and it's that very example he sets that helps others past their own anxieties and find their own archetypes. More so than an outlet for insecurities Will is the idealized version of the Prince that can overcome them all with a smile.
Also your achetypes calling you a worthless faggot doesn't have anything to do with your competence using them or your anxieties, but just with what the world thinks of you.
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>>500368559
>>500368559
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>>500366391
Ngl I'm going to be spending a chunk of ng+ just stealing incenses from enemies once we have a good understanding of who gives easy drops for them because I want to use all the party members in off brand roles but they didn't make regicide balanced for level 99 with maxed stats
That's the one thing I just need them to put in the game to get me to just play it forever who do I have to threaten to get them to do that
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>>500356463
Twice. Worth every penny



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