Dogadox Edition>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-27-2024-update.42492/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked:>>500253359
Most annoying character to lane against? I personally hate laning against a Wraith/Bebop
>>500333178Miku is the only answer
was emissary, skipped archon entirely and ended up in oracle this week. w/l was close to 50-50 so i guess it's more personal performance than anything
jamie pull up the playercount
Post em
>>500333587>PurpleGeist>GoldInfernus>YOU HAVE TO PICK THREE CHARACTERSSeven
>>500333587if i had the heart for it i'd also include wraith but i cannot in good conscience play that character
>>500333587I know what I like
>>500333178Any M1 spamming character like infernus, wraith or haze
I wonder how many years of failed balance patches will it take for Icefrog to admit Flex slots in it's current form was a bad idea.
>played 41 games>won 25>60% win rate>still drop from phantom 2 to 1Is this a joke?
Sex with Abrams
>>500334415i'm pretty sure inventory will see a full revamp at some point. the system made more sense when it was neon prime and you were slotting "mods" into your sci-fi shit
>8 minute arrives>leave to go take neutral camps>teammate dies>calls me a faggot and asks me why i left the laneIs this not what you're supposed to do?
>>500335050Did you tell him "I'm gonna leave to farm camps"?
>>500335129Yes, I said I'm jungling. Or is that not the term in this game.
>>500335231>Yes, I said I'm junglingYea but did you tell him before you left?
>>500332370Do you guys think games take too long in its current state? What can be done to make games go faster?
>>500335318Yeah, like 5 seconds before I left. Was I supposed to tell him BEFORE 8 minutes?
https://streamable.com/qvha4h
>>500335449No, you're fine in that case. Leaving as soon as the timer hits 8 minutes to farm the jungle if there are still lanes to push is probably a dumb idea, but he also had no reason to get mad at you for leaving if you told him before hand and he died because he jumped in against 2 people alone.
reminder that (you) are the only constant in your ranked games.
>>500335050Was you teammate doing well enough to not immediately get dived and killed or did he overextend?If you were getting pressed the whole time leaving is dumb.
>>500322314trickshot>fire a bullet that deals basic bullet damage + spirit scaling. It will ricochet from surfaces at closest enemy at 10 degree angle>max of 4 ricochets>every ricochet multiplies damage by 1.25>prioritizes heroes
Explain to me the paradox gameplay loop and combos, especially the melee ones. I've been trying to pick her up.From what I understand you get fast, run around the map with carbine, hit your shot, wall swap into grenade, or grenade at close range, shoot, wall, punch, swap, items. And get a kill. I always feel under farmed and feel like I have a lack of damage until way later.Seems like grenade is usually leveled last because walls are important and you do no damage without your 3/swap. Also when I go for punches they usually get out of the grenade too.Do you focus Squishies in the backline or swap in a tank usually too?
>>500336154How the fuck does the cowboy gunslinger not have a "fan the hammer" ability, as is required by this type of archetype?
>>500332370I'd play paradox more if that was her design.
>>500336258Gameplay loop involves complaining about your teammates and posting futa ntr porn on /vg/
TOTAL HAZE LOVE. HAND HOLDING WITH HAZE. DANCING WITH HAZE. CUDDLING WITH HAZE. SNUGGLING WITH HAZE IN BED. KISSING HAZE. SWAPPING SALIVA WITH HAZE. MARRIAGE WITH HAZE. HAZE IN A BEAUTIFUL WEDDING DRESS. MATING WITH HAZE. IMPREGNATING HAZE. HAZE GIVING BIRTH TO OUR SMOKE CHILDREN. HAZE CRADLING OUR SMOKE CHILDREN IN HER ARMS WITH TEARS OF HAPPINESS IN HER EYES.
Who has the best gun?
>vegas how do i rank up?>vegas: ignore your team and go farm until you can 1v9. everyone who plays this game is fucking stupid, stop listening to your team and play your game, even at the highest rankdo you agree /dlg/? he's eternus 6 on several accounts btw
>>500336361>futa ntr porn on /vg/Where does this happen to be at so I can avoid it haha
>>500336304name one cowboy gunslinger with this ability in a mobalike
>>500336452No because 99% of players can't carry with a lead and will throw even after farming up to 70k souls, plus listening to streamers is subhuman
>>500336452No, he's your average egoist american streamer who will get their shit kicked in when playing in an actual organized tournament
>>500336452I still don't know how to farm the map correctly, as all the camps are already sucked up by my teams.
>>500336452Someone on the other team is doing the same. Or if the other team takes map control and objectives you'll always be underfarmed.
>>500336636how is tournament play relevant for solo queue ranked
>>500336258you mostly have the right idea, if you're ever caught with your pants down just dance around your walls or use grenade if you're in a tight spaceyou can always swap without carbine if you're confident it will land
From Oracle 6 to Oracle 5, nice, I can thank the useless 0-14 hazes in my fucking games back go back.
>>500336517>>500044359
>>500333939>>500333979who the fuck is NOT getting 'carried' by some boosted talon nigger right now. the hero is braindead and overtuned.
>>500333178McGinnis, Greytalon and Infernus with aimbot
>>500333985you forgot m*rage spamming HP steal 50 times and also applying nuke stacks to you from the other side of the lane with his totally balanced 1200 projectile speed
>First game of the day>Team of mouth breathers that all lose lane>Most my team is at least 8-10k behind and getting out patron pushed 20 minutes in>Haze that afk farms and when she does fight, just walks in ults and then leaves when no one dies
>play vindicta>lose>play miku>winit's that easy
>abrams loses guardian and walker in 5 minutesIt was one of those games.
>>500336636I hate to defend vegas here, but yes he is just an american ego streamer, but he has played video games professionally on the highest level of competition before. If he wanted to he could def compete in Deadlock at this point in time, but I think he is smart enough to choose the content creator route consider he is one of the biggest streamers in the section and will grow if the game grows.
Anyone getting to the point where they ask themselves are they actually having fun stressing over a video game ranks/wins?
>>500335114Cute
>>500336885Thanks anon! I appreciate you looking out for me. I already, unfortunately, had that one downloaded in my "gross futa ntr porn" folder so I can avoid it better.
What are the chances this ISN'T a cheater?
>>500337340No. I'm neurotypical, and able to separate reality from video games, so I don't get mad
>>500337143I like how it's impossible to escape those scarabs because he gets four of them and they have large hitboxes than Talon arrows
>>50033743822% seems reasonable to me
>>500337438pretty high seeing as how i've played against 3 aimbotters so far and their spread would be like 6215 gun damage and 25000 crit gun damageretard
>>500337438100%
>>500337438this is fine, 25% headshot rate is reasonable, 30+ if when you know the guys is a cheater
seven/bros/, the redditors have won . . .
>>50033743830% chance.>>500337510it's actually about 40% headshot rate because that's total # of damage not gun damage so some is spirit
>introducing water fountains around the map that you can use to restore staminaI hate traversing the map and getting to the fight with no stamina.
>>500336452I bet he's just saying that for clicks6 people doing retarded shit together beat 6 people doing different mid-smart shit individually 80% of the time
So how are you meant to build lash? Gun or spirit? His spirit stuff feels pretty weak. I know mobility comes first on him
Speaking of which how does the crit damage factor in with items that influence headshot damage?Like headhunter is +140 damage on a headshot proc, so if I hit the head for 100 damage and then buy headhunter, does it become 240 crit damage in the breakdown or is it still 100 damage and headhunter is a separate category?
>>500337676nah, shit like 50%+ is aimbotting30-35% is reasonable for good aimers
Am I crazy or does the Deadlock countdown count 3 twice?
>>500336452I mean kinda. Unironically if you just solo farm lanes and ignore fights that aren't 200% favorable then by mid game you'll likely be one of, if not the highest soul count in the game and then you can easily just run at enemies that are several thousand behind and just melt. At least in ranked, since it's solo queue. That's not a strategy that's gonna work against stacks where they're better coordinated and if they're good will be able to recognize your strategy and ambush you.
>>500337438completely normal game
>>500337723turn him into a melee focused hero. Ball now only goes around himself, but scales harder radius wise so he has to get up close and personal. Ult should be buffed a bit with an 0.5% escalating exposure tick
>hit by binding word>dash twice>still caughtHUH????
>>500337510>>50033767622-25%? How are you getting that number? I calculate his HS percentage as 41% which is insane for an emissary pleb such as myself.>>500337525Why do you think so?
>>500337438He was probably deliberately aiming for headshots and just missing. I get numbers like this on Geist a lot.
>>500337792>His spirit stuff feels pretty weak.That is an issue of skill
holy shit guys i must be cheating
>>500337938Superior stamina exists for just such an occasion.
>>500337951His headshot rate is shit at like 25%?
FUCK FUCK FUCK I'M FUCKING PISSLOWMY FIRST GAMES WERE ETERNUS COME ONI guess losing 16 fucking games out of your first 18 ranked matches fuck you up
>>500337759headshots do 2x damagethat is a 26% headshot rate
>>500336636The question was about ranked, which is solo queue only. If the question was "how do I get good?" then he'd probably give a different answer
>>500338062it's 40%, read nigga read
>>500337951retarded, crit deals double damage so it's actually half as many hits
>>500338130Crits deal double damage, retard
>>500338050bro same
>>500338062I haven't seen stats for Deadlock, but they'd certainly be MUCH lower than in CS. And 25% would be really good for my rank in CS.
>>500338048Even if you go 20 metres up you only get like 600ish damage on a spirit build. That's on the side low side given the set up needed
>>500338236headshot hitboxes in the game are basically pic related whereas in cs the head hitbox is simply the black circle so getting more headshots isn't abnormal
>>500338250It's not that low considering the lashes I see basically never touch the ground and fly in from the skybox for every slam
>>500338371guns in CS are also don't fire projectiles and people aren't moving at 17 m/s speed
>>500337929playing seven melee is fun already (albeit meme), so doesn't sound too badthe stun and movement speed spirit scaling help along with the extra ammo from melee charge for 3
>>500338371I guess I'd have to see more stats to be convinced. 10% HS would be a good game IMO for CS, since I'm the bottom ~10% of players. I'm a bit better at Deadlock (only bottom third) but doubling that HS rate (especially without a Mo or Seven) seems REALLY insane.
>>500338236according to deadlocktracker (data I presume from before September), 26% HS rate is top 7%
>>500338216>flight damage>assassinate damagewhy do you even play Vindicta you worthless tripfag? Stick to Haze
>>500338083<9% winrateYeah I am thinking you deserve this rank or lower buddy
I feel like I've missed some secret item that everyone is buying because past 2 weeks I have been the weakest player on my team every single game. From minute 1 I die super fast, I deal no damage, doesnt matter what hero. Something doesnt make sense any more. Game feels off
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>500338236>>500338486The shitters in your Initiate 4 matches do not move 17m/s and they walk backwards diagonally in straight lines and get dinked 30x before they die instead of 1 in CS
>>500338652this was one of my first games in pisslow MMR and I just roamed around the map deleting people with M1
>>500338527yeah i think it's super good and much more cool than the throw ball cancer that they specifically changed creeps spirit resist to counter.
>>500338674the item is a mouse without a roller ball
>consistently go 10/4 in ranked>from archon 1 to archon 2
>play Yamato>fragile, deals no damage, gets ignored during ult>enemy yamato>tanky as fuck, high damage, power slash almost 1 shots. When she ults everyone HAS to run away or dieI dont get what Im doing wrong. People literally ignore me and I deal no damage.
>play warden>get shit on in lane>just let them take my tower while I farm camps and push lanes>10m later I become a god that needs the whole team to take me downcool character
>>500338952I was doing completely fine two weeks ago. I was even winning once in a while. Now I get raped every game and I feel completely lost.
Oh cool
got phantom v from phantom iv
>game already dying>not even out yetUghhhh Yoshibros???
>>500339234what heroes, what ranks
What the fuck is Hydration's Ivy gun build? He expects me to get Tesla Bullets within the laning phase and then Siphon Bullets as a mid-early game item? Is this some kind of stacked pub stomp build?
>slork buffed
>>500336304because that would just be another generic fire rate buff when tons of characters already have those + you can buy them
>>500339376i think the new epik streamer meta is getting siphon bullets relatively early so that you can try to get the permanent max hp stacks from it asap
>>500339318laning sucks, item sucks, matchmaking sucks, same heroes every gameit's over
>>500339470>reduced>spread increased and falloff reducedthose are not buffs
>>500338652>Stick to HazeHe should not play Haze, he went 0-9-0 against SUPPORT Vindicta in lane yesterday
>>500339347Infernus, Yamato, Geist, Seven, ViscousNo rank because I have no self control and have 2 more weeks of communication ban.
>>500339318>play bad blizzard game>leave for more enjoyable game ran by yoshi>it dies>go play another blizzard game>leave for more enjoyable game ran by yoshi>it diesMan
>>500339547are you implying worthless tripfag would do better if he played Vindicta in inhouse?
once maintenance is over ill throw a inhouse up.
did they touch holliday please say no
>>500339809im ready
>>500339820i touched her
>>500339503I completely forgot siphon bullets even gave you permanent health stacks. Reading the text, does it actually mean you permanently steal their health if they die? That's actually pretty fucked. >>500339820They fixed her bounce pad landing not working most of the time, so it's actually useable and you can now use phantrom strike memes on her
>phew ranked is closed time to play unranked>every game has 3 man stacks>they only pick Greytalons, Wraiths, Vindictas etc.
>>500339945i actually have no idea if it permanently subtracts their health
>>500339594>InfernusYou need to be efficient with your ammo, get ignites on your opponent and buy mobility to not dieThen getting ganks instead of Ricochet farm is the current metaHis gun is great for denying and mid for killing creeps early so deny, proc ignites then melee as much as possible>YamatoGot gutted in patch>GeistDon't know shit about her, throw bombs better or something>SevenUlt sucks now you should be ballmaxxing>ViscousAlso got nerfed idk>communication banBigger problem then lane
>game is absolute stomp and we losing>suddenly everyone starts walking in place>disconnected>Deadlock network is down>try to rejoin>can't rejoin the server>can't abandon game eithernice game dotards
>>500338083>You lost SIXTEEN out of 19 gamesWhat were you doing during the 50 normal games, running with a 5 stack?
>>500339945okay good i can still build her around bullet life steal and be a menace :)
Is improved spirit good on lash?
>50 minute game>finally get the game winning push>server disconnects everyone and deletes the gameI am racist against valve developers
is shiv a support character? he clearly isnt meant to deal any damage whatsoever with any build
>>500339772Yes, because at least he wouldn't be taking away haze from people who actually know how to play her.
>>500339809it's back
>>500339902holliday only touches horses, so unless you're eating hay right now then gtfo.
So is this how MOBA ranks work? You move up 1 per week at most? I guess it's fine as long as I'm having fun, but still.
>>500340552>>500339547I have played Haze maybe 6x in the past month I do not even know what her build meta is since the last patch, yes I'm bad on herI literally only pick her when Vindicta is taken
>>500340839
>>500338250You should be gaining much more height than that. And play like an assassin, going for squishy and low health targets first.
>>500340839Welcome to the mazeYou will never move up a significant amount, you have to play thousands of games to climb to the highest ranks, even if you're goodThat's how they get you
>>500337792>his spirit stuff feels pretty weak
inhouse: 9WQRD
>>500340545Sort of. He deals damage slowly but also dies slowly. His role is to make the team fight more confusing for the enemy team by soaking up damage and attention and finish off stragglers with his ult. He'll never be crazy high damage or carry by himself, but he makes it easier for his team to win teamfights if they're any good.
>>500340912rush burst fire and learn how to cancel the slide delay (let go of primary fire, slide, then immediately start shooting). congratulations, you're now at least phantom 1 on haze.
I finally figured out what was causing Deadlock to crash on launch - my pirated copy of Factorio. Must have something to do with how it tricks the game into thinking it's using Steam.
are most of the builds in the browse tab shit
>>500338250>600 damage nuke is bad
>>500341240what's the preferred vitality stack, still bullet lifesteal + resists?
>>500341402Yes, look for names of "famous" streamers if you want a good build. It doesn't guarantee a good build but it's more likely to be good than chang ching chong's random build
>he picked grandmaoh no
How do you play infernus? And I mean, the playstyle of him and haze and characters like that. I was doing a decent amount of lane pushing and farming my most recent game but only ended up with 29k souls in a 28 minute game, while our haze ended up with 50, so I must be doing something wrong. Do I just bounce from camp to camp as they respawn and let my team do the lane pushing?
>>500341709>Enemy team facing my DynamoIts a shame6v2 is almost fair for them
>>500341709I suck at this hero, I just need to try to shit on this tripfag
>boomerang replaced with a single hit dmg+slow projectile I'm not saying the boomerang worked great but why replace it with the most boring idea in the universe? I thought they would have wild experimental spell ideas not this lame shit
>>500341178are initiates allowed?
>>500341945yespeople WILL make fun of you you are allowed to joinyou WILL be miserable
>>500341795Unless I get fed 6 kills in lane and buy Spiritual Overflow at 14 minutes you shoot me out of the air 4 out of 5 times, we both know this
>>500341861Hoopo saw people saying that Viper is Kali and got upset even though they literally have the same model and abilities
>>500341510bullet lifesteal is almost always your first vit. you only need spirit armor since you'll always go escalating resist. superior stamina or fortitude, depending if you value stamina or movespeed (personally i go stamina). last one should usually be a situational pick. i heard enchanters barrier is low key goated (especially earlier on) if you're really struggling against powerful spirit damage dealers.
>>500341717It's too complex for me to explain everything, but you essentially want to farm a lane and every time there is any downtime in lane, you need to already be running from camp to camp, while also making sure that you never lose any minions under your tower
>>500341594>look for names of "famous" streamers if you want a good buildmost of those appear to be some shitter copying a build one of them did a single game
>>500341945can't be worse than tripfag
>>500341709If he's in your team, he's going to miss every soul in laning phase and be completely useless at all times.If he's in the enemy team, well you better pray to god you have a full team that counters him because he's going to shit out arrows that deletes 4000hp per second.
>>500341945sure if you want to deal with people with 5x more hours than you and get raped
4 MORE9WQRD
Vindicta......big..............
>>500341945blue team needs more bad players
>>500341861people thought kali was kill + it's weird for a snake to use a boomerang
>>500342061there's better spell ideas in the fucking hero idea subforum that's how bad these heroes arehell, I could come up with a better hero kit myself, that's the level here
Predict Magician's ultimate.
>>500342528magician and viper are cool and the other ones have existed foreverthey totally fucked slork by giving him a generic shotgun though
>>500342813feign death
>>500342152yes only trust ones from the actual account of the player, not random "I saw mikaels do this once" builds
>>500339725dumb hots tranny
>>500342829magician's kit is a mess, I don't think it works together and the hex is way too strong for a non-ultimate spell besides having the weird movement speed side buff.Slork's is just really boring. The pounce could work just fine even if it's pretty basic as abilities go but the dmg cone is incredibly unexciting. His ult makes me want to fall asleep.I like Viper's passive even if it lacks some spice.
>>500339725who is yoshihow do you know you've played his games before
Just FYI. If your build is heavy on shields, soul rebirth has a ton more value to you because rebirth spawns you in with your shields at max
>demoted from arcanist 1 to alchemist 6bros...
What the fuck.> Do ranked for the fuck of it> Win 5 of 8 games, one of those three losses had a leaver on my team> Somehow only get Alchemist IIs the game expecting me to hard carry every match to get anything higher?
>>500340397duh
>>500343560No, it's expecting you to play well.
>>500343560for your first games it takes your unranked mmr as a baseline
Is the tech resistance on viper supposed to be spirit? Why are they confused and going back to the past. Does Icefrog already have alzheimer's?
>>500343560it's largely based on your personal performance. i've won like 30% of my ranked matches and i'm oracle 1 lol
>didn't fix calico pounceShe will never be a proper melee hero till it gets fixed
>ranks are not determined by win/lossJust pick Seven and greed farm 24/7. Whether you win or lose doesn't matter, just how much farm you have.
>>500344054It's probably calculated by a bunch of different things and not just souls per minute.
>>500340545Get rage and you rape. Simple as that. In rage he has the best jungle clear and top 5 objective killers. Spirit shiv is a different story, since it requires a lot of items to work properly but you can do absurd shit with it.
I wrote a scathing review of Magician, and Viper will follow once I actually get to play the hero for some credibility. Hotpoo will fear me.
>>500344242Imagine playing s*pport or in*tiator in this game that does not reward it.
>Archon 4 to Archon 1I knew it was coming, but goddamn.
>Viper changelog says she can no longer ult mid-air>she can still ult mid-airwhat did hopoo mean by this?
I ranked up from maple wood to oak wood.Nice.>>500341861It gives her some kind of ranged damage and keeps people from getting away from her, which is pretty nice on a short range character. Her boomerang was her worst ability
>>500344054>ranks are not determined by win/lossthere is no evidence for this whatsoeverit's wishful thinking by "i would be immortal/challenger if i didn't keep getting bad teammates" shitters
>>500342813The saw in half trick>cut enemy's max health to 50% for 30 seconds>T1: reduce cooldown>T2: Reduce Enemies max health to 50% of their CURRENT health>T3: Add enemies health cut to your max health for 30s
>>500342813Character swap. You get to play as Savannah.
>>500344717>I know its pouring rain but let me take my coat offdumbass coomer
>>500342813something related to unifying souls like Grimstroke's ultimate from dota
>>500342813disappearing trick that makes the entire team invisible like mirana ult
>play miku in solo lane>w+m1 towards the enemy abrams>he shits his pants when he realizes he's taking tons of damage >starts running towards cover>wall him >kill him like 5 times in 5 minutes>still lose the game
>>500341861This makes me think Kali is 100% gonna be a seperate character since they share literally no abilities now, only part of the same model.
>>500345336>This makes me think Kali is 100% gonna be a seperate characterwe already knew this since viper is hero_viper and kali is hero_kali
>>500343396icefrog you DUMB ANIMAL
I lost like 80% of my games, not sure how I got this instead of bottom rank.
>>500345446unconfirmed
Fucking lmao, the t3 of calico's turrets doesn't make you take less damage it's bugged and so when an enemy is underfire THEY take 30% less damage from all sources. Didn't even get fixed today too.
>>500345449Because you started at low archon/high emissary MMR How do so many of you still not know ranked is seeded
>>500344654>there is no evidence for this whatsoeverI won 1 game last time and won 5 this time and went down 1 rank.
Magician is the only new hero I'm hyped for. His playstyle is get in, make a nigga disappear, and instantly get out.
if they don't make viper a snake lady with large breasts that jiggle all around this game is gonna flop harder
>>500345606https://project8-data.community.forum/video/26/26965-9854ed0bb63b5983daa374cbc8177047.mp4
>>500345707What does seeded mean in this?
>>500345721because the rest of the playerbase surpassed you and/or your wins were lower quality (against worse players)
wow this inhouse is cancer, you guys really play this shit together like this knowing it's going to be shitty stomps? And why even use your cheats in this with anons, holy shit
>>500341795damn you shit on me bro
>>500345928>And why even use your cheatswho the fuck was cheating?
>>500345928>And why even use your cheats in this with anons, holy shitIf you have proof, we can check the replay in the match id and ban the offenders from inhouse.
>>500345606>>500345875that's 33% sir too
>>500345928We didn't get to randomize before beginning so I knew it would be aids. Also Big Hat's mic stopped working after 15 min so our only way back into the game was strangled
>>500346125yea no wonder people didnt hear my calls at all LMAO
>>500345989lol shut up faggot you are on your 1000 games played hero meanwhile I am 2nd game grey talon or some shit
>>500345923>and/or your wins were lower quality (against worse players)Well then why the hell wouldn't it match me against better players?
>>500343613Then why isn't it in many of the builds
I got archan 1 does this mean I’m ok?
>>500345893Your initial ranked MMR, before you play any matches, is equal to unranked MMR before ranked released.You play 7 ranked games to qualify for ranking. They're not placement matches. They're just qualifiers. You can play more than 7 if you like, they all count the same.Then, once a week, all your games are added together, and judged relative to the other players in them (their own W/L), to determine your new rank.This is pure speculation, but I assume that the game recalculates your MMR, then assigns a rank according to how your MMR is distributed among the playerbase. I also assume that your MMR goes up and down normally during the week and then at the end of the week it gets changed again.
>>500345578cringe
>>500346198big hat more like big..... SHAT
>>500345928this was barely a stomp, you guys got two walkers>>500346125every time someone randomizes before start it's aids>>500346208don't talk shit then, bitch
>>500345928who's cheating this time? i sure hope you have substantial proofs. you can't just throw a big accusation like that out all willy nilly.
>>5003411789WQRDWe need three(3) more for inhouse.
I know it's nowhere near close but when do you think this game will release?
>>500346265a little bit below average. "ok" is a good descriptor
>>500345989sapphire team comp was shit
>>500345928>And why even use your cheats in this with anonsLaasti catching strays
>>500346351archon is not below average it's like platbelow average would be alchemist like me
>>500346368y'all picked it
>>500346125>>500346304Yeah likeAnd this is going way backWhen I used to play with the lads back in private L4D2 versus we all sort of knew our skill levels and would balance ourselves accordingly to have a competitive fun timeSplit up the objectively good players and the shitters can be wherever.
so turns out you just have negative movement speed when warden has slowing bullets, inhibitor and mystic slow.i think i was moving at 40% with my boots.
>>500346241Because people are dumb and slow.
>>500345989tripfag got carried, played much better than on Haze but would have lost if Big Hat wasn't keeping all his ults for epic plays(that never materialized)
>>500346524problem is that the shitters dont try to do any balancing
dude literally just dropped a vague cheat accusation, didn't name the cheater, refused to elaborate further, and then leaves. what a king.
>>500346576match id? I wanna check out the build
>>5003463452 years from now. They likely want the game super polished and have a ton of stuff set up before full release. The game is likely gonna have multiple modes, it's supposed to have some visual novel story thing, and everything is likely gonna be a lot more detailed and obviously higher poly. They also definitely want the game to be esports and will definitely have skins tho they'll likely start up that type of stuff before release.
>>500346730>and then leaves.Who was it
>>500346241whos builds are you following?imp spirit builds into the single best item on lash so ofcourse it's good, not to mention its recent buffs makes it far better than surge of power which was previously popular on him
>>500345928>accusing someone of cheating without evidence>but refusing to say WHO you're accusinginteresting strategy
>>500346817I second that. They don't wanna CS2 situation where they underdelivered on their full relase
>>5003463439WQRD9WQRD9WQRDNeed two(2) more for inhouse.
Genuine question. I've quite a bit of moba experience and I'm playing this with some friends who have absolutely none. There's of course a million things to teach but the first one is the one that stumps me because of its simplicity;How do I get them to stop feeding? Obviously they understand that they should try not to die. Obviously I understand that they're gonna have almost unavoidable deaths because of skill gap. But a large amount of their deaths look avoidable in my eyes. Standing in dumb places, not respecting kill threat from enemies, not respecting harass, and everything you can think of.Anyone have experiencing teaching beginners to die less?
>>500346861No idea, either the accuser or the alleged cheater.
>>500346960>Standing in dumb placesthey don't know that/why that place is dumb>not respecting kill threat from enemiesthey don't know the enemies abilities>not respecting harassthey don't know what harass means>and everything you can think of.It's only obvious to you because you have background knowledge
>Oracle 3 to Oracle 3t-thanks?
>>5003463452026 seems right but I think they'll release a more official early access next year
Am I the only one that can't hear people in the inhouses, I think it's the green chat bubbles that fuck it up, like after 2 minutes into the game everyone is robots or literally just their mic lighting up with no audio coming through?
>shuffle still shuffles spectators into teamsVALVE!!!!!!!
WHO THE FUCK IS SHUFFLING GOD DAMN
>>500344902Are you gonna be ok gamingcirclejerk sister? Don't you have a mendrawingwomen post to be making?
>>500347151Its understandably gonna take time to piece everything together, but any specific approach I can take to start making their better? Its not for my sake, its them that are having less fun from dying so much .
>>500346960>Standing in dumb places, not respecting kill threat from enemies, not respecting harass, and everything you can think of.All of these are things that are genuinely incomprehensible to new players. They have no real sense of how dangerous ANYTHING is. That's true in most games, but the other thing that trips up noobs in MOBAs is that every time you die it makes the enemy stronger. That doesn't usually happen in PVP games, so people who don't play MOBAs don't develop the survival sense you need in this genre.
>>500347315Just make polite critiques sparinglyTry to call them out before it gets them killed, not after they're raging at 0-5
>>500336452vegas is a retard who throws half of his matches and then bitches about his team, never taking fault for his own bad plays.
Ivy Gaming
>they let the tripfag AND big hat back into inhouseswhat is wrong with you people, have some standards
Am I better off buying 2 T3 items or 1 T4 item if I suddenly get a large amount of souls
>>500347245happens to me most games
>>500347405are you transgender, or just gay?
the team element of this game fucking sucks
>>500347447tripfag should be allowed to play..when he's on Vindicta, what's wrong with Big Hat?
From baaa IV, not bad considering how much I got carried.
Gunbop is fucking ridiculous, i melt people before i even have time to place the bomb on them
>>500347501that depends a lot on the game state, your hero, what t3s you're buying, and what t4 you're buying. there's never going to be a solid answer for a question with this many variables.
>neo ragequit at 0-1 2 minutes into gamebanned
>>500347546>what's wrong with Big Hat?nta but he ragequit once and he sometimes gets super toxic in the threadi don't think he should be banned though we should just bully him for it like normal people
>>500347546some people are still miffed about me leaving 1 (one) inhouse at the very end of the match weeks and weeks agoits very minor but that aforementioned match had a 40k deficit gigastompbut i get it, some people were upset
>>500347447I was never bannedpeople just posted it seething 100 times and then didn't kick me when I joined ever
spectating the inhouse, just watched mirage all in seven at level 1 and have some rooftop duel sevens orb clipped through the roof and killed him LMAO
>>500347696Mental illness
brah you could have just switched lanes
>>500347774thats worse than leaving at 2 minutes
Holy fuck the tripfag literally will not shut up, no one cares.
>>500347703>i don't think he should be banned though we should just bully him for it like normal peopleYeah banning people for being Toxic is dumb. It's when you waste everyone's time that you should be kicked out.
>>500347546People really hate one-tricks in the inhouse for some reason, especially in this thread.
>>500347841that's why I left, don't want him on my teamggs to billy though, that was an intense 1v1
Bighat is fine, just don't fucking waste everyone's time by ragequiting
stop fucking shuffling we had balanced teams
>>500347841rent freedoesn't filteryou're a gigantic bitchlikely filipino
>>500347829cry about it bitch>>500347926cry about it bitch
START RUNNIN'*ding ding ding*DIE!!!
I was on big hat's team when he ragequitted, yet I still find space in my heart to forgive him.
see what i mean? he gets toxic
>- Added a notes system for Experimental Heroes in Hero Labs. Updates to those heroes will now be displayed in-game, rather than this subforum, whenever there are changes.so what the fuck did yoshi mean by this
>>500348043Good ult.
>>500348030do w*men actually get turned on by this design?why can't we have characters that look cool?
>>500348159>>500339238
Rank in-house players so we don't stack one side with good players and another with theHost and Tripfag
>>500347926billy aint too badhe used to just miku 1 trick and he refuses to get a rank like a faggot though
most of the good players in the inhouses are one-tricks.
>>500345446then what games is anon talking aboutbesides dota
>>500348547That's how it works, you play 200 games on a hero to learn how he works, not 20 games on every hero and being bad on all
who wins
>>500348430>refuses to get a rankbased. you can not make me soloq in this dog shit game. i will play with my friends only or not at all.
Does Long Range and Sharpshooter even do what you intuitively think they do? Increase effective range? The wording is confusing me
>>500348692are these ranks ever accurate btw? because I feel like they're not
>>500348186>do w*men actually get turned on by this design?anon are you under the impression that "sex with abrams" is a woman meme and not a homo meme?
>>500348692the eternus player is on viscous why are you doing this yourselves you're just going to get gun viscoused to death
>>500348692enemy team lineup seems ass
Post 'em I know what I am, still have fun
>>500348692Enemy team unless Wraith can pick off people enough
>joining the elite houses in october 2024
>>500342061they had 1 ability in common and their guns were nothing alike
>>500348765>Increase effective range?Yes
>>500348765I was testing sharp shooter and the conditional damage seems broken but the range works
>>500348862i got archon 3 despite playing all matches there and going 5/2 with all games hardcarryingdidnt have a rank but every single match was between red * and archon 4, despite me absolutely shitting on most people there, but some even refuse to get carried and actively play against youranking is weird
>>500341861Boomerang was literally "aim at feet to deal double damage" meme
>>500348862Im still banned from ranked
>>500348862What is the minimum rank to not be called subhuman here?
>>500348181Thanks, it was a nutritional source of neuron activation for me.
>>500349332Ascendant
someone let know hopo know his designs are uninspired dog shit
these ranks suck desu. why cant valve copy blizzard or riot so its sensible?
>>500349332Eternus 3
>>500349405i hate hotpoo but i still love acrid ror2
>>500345707What
i guess getting archon 6? i guess that's what this is? after losing every single placement is ok.....
>>500349567archon 1
inhouse?
>>500349484should of rephrased - ror2 is legitmately fun (i know 3rd person kind of irked people) but his takes in this game are dog doodoo
>>500349630They are playing one rn
>>500349604that's 1?fuuuuuuuuuuuck i thought the crown might've been 6
>>5003496309WQRDfull board atm
>>500349717ID?
what's THE mo and krill build?
>go 8-4 in ranked>get derankedfuck this I'm going to play some Factorio
>>500349510Your ranked MMR is seeded from your previous unranked MMR.
>>500349960Your wins don't matter, just stats
>>500350115fake news
>>500349960i don't believe that
>>500349724the roman numerals at the bottom is what shows 1-6, however 6 is a star instead of roman numerals
>>500349867magic carpet
>>500345606>playing slop labslol
Wait a second, I can literally play shiv like a slork right now
>>500350217Only sort of, both matter and personal stats do seem to be more heavily weighted.
>>500349332Initiate :)
>>500348894>>500348848>>500348838https://files.catbox.moe/uu23jk.webm20 minutes of this back and forth and we lost
>enemy seven solo steals rejuv twicenever going midboss again
You can take that slowing hex and shove it up your FUCKIN' ass MeppzQuit dogpiling my Dynamo with your serial rapist Warden I'm gonna remove you from every teamfight if it takes 1 whole Black Hole to kill just you
>>500351479high mmr games seem so untolerable to be in from what ive seen lol
>>500351789LMAO and big hat was worried oh we dont have communication we dont need it
>saw a bunch of people fighting>zoom down zipline before i even seen the fight happening>immediately walk into black holei am so sorry teammates
Meppz what happened??? You kept feeding i thought you were good????
>Deathball>Get 1 pick>Go mid>RepeatWorks since people see Vindicta on 50% hp charging towards them and don't realize their 5 buttbuddies are behind them
>>500349332There's nothing wrong with being an alchemist. Alchemists get laid more often than eterni do.
Inhouse more like Outhouse because look at all the SHIT
>>500351353>both matterprove it
Could anyone hear me talk last match? - stoonk!
>>500352186yeah you have a cute voice :)
This is what's been happening to me since the last major patch>teammates use voice chat, and I can see the icon but not hear them>They seemingly have no problem hearing each other, occasionally i can hear SOME of them again>my chat messages aren't acknowledged at all>occasional lag spike (especially when near enemies) (never had them before). What the fuck is happening? Am shadow comms banned? I am getting scared sisters
if i get shuffled into big hat's team i'm going to play like Soul (go 0/15)
>>500352320it'd only make the game fair
braid if you are here you are truly getting better at the game you had some nasty ass shots
>>500352320You feeding either way meppz kek
>>500352238Same thing was happening to me, I had to fiddle with my mic until it actually started hearing it in the playback in game settings
>>5003519090 awareness team who thinks the only time they should look at the map is when a 5 man fight is happening
>>500352238I get this exclusively in custom games, never had it happen in EU ranked.
>>500352423It's not that they can't hear me, I specifically can't hear them
>>5003517890/4/6I feel bad, but it felt like 90% of the time I was clearing waves or setting up on Urn. Not sure if I should've hauled ass to more team fights instead.Kinetic Dash feels really good on Miku. I had a couple of really good escapes with it and the extra gun damage with movement tech is nice.
>>500352480hey what did you get on your pizza
im ordering cavacome play your retarded fellow /dlg/erscode: 9WQRD
>>500352503Inverse for me, this only happens to me in NA ranked but never in inhouses
>>500352525>0/4/6>I feel badno you you dont stop lying
wow made one bad call that whole game that urn fight i can live with that
>>500352186i didn't hear you. lash's mic was choppy, but yamato, warden, and mcginnis were finet. pocket
THEY DELIVERED THE PIZZA
>>500346885get both
>be melee shiv>punch people in lane, they parry>20 minutes into the game>they no longer parry and just dieparrying is only for laning
9WQRDINHOUSE NEED 2 MORE
>>500352689>no you you dont stop lyingonly if you stop stuttering first!>>500352320It's hard to get kills with turrets if the enemy team has half a braincell, might need to get more experimental with placement.I could also go for more gun items, but I like turrets.
>>500352529the one and only
>>500352238Official discord is fucking useless >look up any problem for a solution >it gets eclipsed by tranny erpI can't fucking believe they thought this was a good idea
>>500353132You didn’t contribute much but you didn’t feed like meppz, so you did ok by that metric. Doesn’t mean much though
>>500353343I genuinely didn't get a fucking break that game from MeppzEventually I just bought debuff remover so slowing hex wouldn't fuck with me anymore and then I'd spend a black hole removing him from the game just so I could fucking breathe
>>500335935trvke
Why do they let Holliday get away with her 3 even existing as it does now? I could come up with a better ability in my sleep.
crazy thing is about that game they could have won it pretty easily
These teams are NOT balanced....
>>500353536come up with a better ability and post it on the forums instead of screaming into the void like an impotent husband who can't pleasure his wife
>>500353343
>>500353343>You didn’t contribute muchmeppz was far more impactful then soul ever was even if he had 10 deaths, soul had ZERO KILLS 6 AND ONLY 4 ASSHE WAS USELESS THE WHOLE GAMEt. someone on the other team
>>500353481I wish i could rewatch from blue perspective so I could hear meppz scream into the mic everytime he got fucked by fat basterd mole man or BBH(Big black hole)
How do people do the "HELP ME DELIVER THIS URN" voiceline?
>>500353728I actually evaded him three or so times during that game but was surprised that once I got out of his way, he actually was STILL chasing meBlew my mind he was pursuing me so fucking hard, but those were the times he died solo trying so hard for it where we'd get midboss of it or something
>>500353839You can customize your chat wheel in the settings menu.
>>500353861Damn the NY weather really isn't agreeing with Abrams huh
>>500353839If you just do help voiceline whilr carrying urn you’ll do it
>>500353536Asking the real questions here anonIts pretty fucking boring, but im guessing they wanted some way for her to be scaling better with gun or have a gun build (which works, but its boring)Luckily its prime time to suggest shit on forums
>>500353620Braid is evolving fast some stuff he could clean up on but him and mo was the mvp
>>500353875>>500353974Oh it's a contextual ping? Thanks
>>500335706True, but with 11 other players per match statistically your impact is diminished by a factor of 12, and will only commit the game-losing or game-winning action once per 12 matches. This could take upwards of 6 full hours of gameplay.
9WQRDINHOUSE NEED 2 MOREPHANTOMS AND UNDER WELCOMED
>>500353602I don't want to post on forums there. Someone else should've had common sense as that hero went down the pipeline of developers.
9WQRDINHOUSE NEED 2 MORE9WQRDINHOUSE NEED 2 MORE9WQRDINHOUSE NEED 2 MORE
>>500354035AND ABOVE*
>>500353981>mo was the mvplol yea he got me like 4 kills
>>500353620This comp was pretty tough to fight>Hooked?Dead>Wraith ulted?Dead>Mo ulted?Dead>Dynamo ulted?DeadMeanwhile our comp barely had anyone to lock people down, except warden and maybe Lash/GinnisSo enemy team just deathballed used one of their ultimates got a 5v6 advantage and took mid without us being able to do much about because they had Dynamo/Wraith/Bebop to say fuck off
>>500354120these teams need shuffling just want to put that out there
>>500354035>>500354120What's the 9 word?
>>500353710>even if he had 10 deaths, soul had ZERO KILLS 6 AND ONLY 4 ASS>HE WAS USELESS THE WHOLE GAME>t. someone on the other teamNah.I didn't throw to Wraith in lane and pushed up with Frenly(MVP) to take the first walker immediately thereafter, At every Urn delivery I set up turret nests at the delivery site, and toward late game I was constantly lane jannying. The mistakes I know I made is trying to get to mid when I was all the way in Purple instead of doing literally anything else and poking my head out in the first team fight when bebop was there.
>>500353861My team were a bunch of pussies and did not want to help me unless they were already in the fight or worst when they would be dead set on killing someone else and running off to chase instead of paying attention to who had less health/was an easier target. Don't remember who it was but just u and a fucking vindicta and whoever was there just started to try and kill the vindicta instead of you, on the ground, fighting me....
If nobody joins in 8 minutes I'll have to leave since I'll have work in an hour
>>500354013It can be contextual but you can just customize your chat wheel. I do this so I can use it before I even approach the urn.
not radically unstacked but need a little bit a big swinger on sapphire atm.9WQRD
>>500354120>>500354035Im cooking meat rn, gonna zpectate
when do i stop lane jannying and start teamfighting
>>500354356you were 2-3k souls down on wraith by the end
>>5003541209WQRD9WQRD9WQRD9WQRDNeed one more.
its after 15 mirage games im here to inform you that gun mirage with warp stone + slowing hex is simply the best version of mirage
>>500354459>not radically unstackeddelusional
bugsnacker stop eating bugs and play the game
>>500354502When you hit your power spike
>>500354267lol i actually wanted to do mid boss earlier like 17 mins in instead of 20 since i had my ulti maxed out but we were just deathballing i knew they couldnt contest when dyna had his ulti up and i also had it incase lash wanted to contest but they had chances to end the game they wiped us a few times but they decided not to push their advantage
im just going to go play warcraft 3 in a couple minutes if we dont fill
>>500354531thats not very many mirage games
>wowzers and kuzconaut against big hat and sagaLooking good, amber...
>>500336367I WILL smack her ASS to DEATH and neither you,her nor anyone else can stop me.
Haze v1 when? She'd fit the game's current art style more than c*lico.
Are Mo and Krill.... you know?
PLEASE STOP SHUFFLING YOU FUCKING ANIMAL.
>>500354705I WILL TAKE YOUR LIFE
>>500354521Okay?Walkers spawn 450 souls in the form of Orbs that go to all alive players, even if only me and Frenly were alive, so if five people were alive that's 2,250 souls for guardians this is 275 souls so that's another 1,375 souls right there.So, if you think about it, I came out 625 souls ahead.
>>500353536>>500353979Her three is fine, aimlets.
>>500354702what's your opinion on the upcoming 2.0 update
why do you people fuck about for so long when we've got a full lobby
>billy waits the entire time then takes a bullet so bison can playhe's better then some of you deserve
Can't join, sadly.
>>500354960i never give blizzard any benefit of the doubt, but they're working on something, probably just some undead unit tune ups for the most part is my take i dont see anything significant
>>500348862>asc 3 last week>oh boy 6-1 should be a sizeable boost>>>>>>>>>this is how mobas get you don't they?
>>500354954Its not about the numbers retard its about how it fits in the kitIt deals damage, its just boring
>>500354792Doesn't fit current Haze, could be a new hero or something
>>500350115>>500350618>muh stats>you're lyingI'm in dirt mmr, have games like this and I'm now arcanist 4
Can I play herolab heroes in sandbox mode so I know what they do before I’m stck in a 30 min game with them?
>>500355490Wins aren't the only stats that matter.For example there's a particular case that's thrown around of a dynamo who was playing in 1000~ nekoscore lobbies who got placed in eternus rank. He had a sub 50% winrate but the speculation is that because he was playing gun dynamo, his hero damage was considered much higher than the average and was therefore considered far better than the average dynamo.
>>500355891Yes you canOpen console type "selecthero" and hero name :)selecthero hero_astro will give you holliday
>>500355490>this is how mobas get you don't they?Nah, other mobas show you your progress in real time and don't boost everyone up to Platinum-ish mmr because they played in groups in normal games. Whatever system they're working on still needs some work.
>>500355643Abrams 3 is a passive. That's boring. Haze 3 is a passive, also boring. Infernus 3 is a passive too, yet nobody tell the zoomers that play this champ religiously otherwise they might bore themselves to death.
>>500355992Gracias baby
>>500355887Of course. I'm not saying that current and v1 haze can't coexist.
>>500354954Her 3 should have her hock a loogie that applies the current 3 effect to a single enemy for the next hits. The extra step makes it better to play with and around. Call it Hawk Tuah instead of Crackshot.
>>500356053>Passives are boringThat would be correct
>>500355029No but yourself would make a post about thisSucking yourself off in the thread is actually embarassing behavior
>>500356053>>500356590viper passive is fun THOUGH
>>500356590Yet i've never seen any other passive ability receive anywhere near the amount of whining and empty complaints that crackshot has. Curious.
>>500356820Because it sticks out like a sore thumb compared to her other abilities>Click head yesNice nice
>>500354083>play EXPERIMENTAL UNFINISHED HEROES>surprised that their abilities are EXPERIMENTAL and UNFINISHED>instead of giving feedback (whole point of the mode btw), bitch about itthe stupidity at display is just baffling honestly
I have ingested amounts of sodium that would kill a whale
>>500356919Her bounce pad doesn't make sense either, yet no complaints.>>500357038I'd rather these elo midgets complaining about a cowgirl sheriff having an ability that rewards her for good aim not give feedback.
>friend becomes incredibly irritated and yells at teammates whenever he's not doing very well>he's like 1-7 as viscous (new to the hero) so naturally he yells at our haze for farming and being useless despite haze being 11-6It's baffling to me that a video game can still make people freak out.
>>500357391>Bounce pad doesnt make senseUhhh okay
Geist should have her 2 replaced with a skillshot cc, maybe a charm.
>>500355896So I should stop playing Infernus if I'm an aimlet but like DoTs?
>>500357546>a wild west sheriff having a tiny bouncy castle trampoline is fine>a wild west sheriff having good aim is notThis is how you've sounded like for the past week.
>>500356820The other characters that you mention have passives that can be played against. You have to output sustainable damage or burst an Abram against his regen. You have to engage and disengage a Haze and Infernus effectively to avoid their build up. Holliday is flat damage and no drop off that has no countermeasure other than don't get hit and hope she doesn't have good aim.>>500357038My feedback is that it sucks and should have never have left their own head let alone being implemented into the game.
>>500358012That's a balance problem, not a design issue like you've been suggesting this past week.
>>500358137You realize you are talking to more than one person right
why does mirage yell so much
https://streamable.com/8xcuwhMeppz sisters not like this
>>500358209Schizo
I've noticed this trend where the PR people in charge of the Steam announcements refer to the player base with a term instead of the usual "Hello everyone". What should Deadlock players be referred to as by our benevolent community managers?
>>500358369wardenbros are we retarded
guys how am i doing as ivy? i need some serious feedback
>>500358493Hello faggots
big hatforgive me for ever talking shit about you goddamn
>>500348043i still wish lash ult would fucking show his teammates where he is throwing the enemies.feels so fucking good when it's a not braindead lash and he throws them right into me and i land an AoE heavy punch on all of them.
stop fucking shuffling teams so the 1 tricks are all on the side side
>>500358493Chudlockers wwu
>mics no longer work>lash can ult through wallsEvery time I play this game its more and more bugged, its mindboggling they would spend any time implementing a ranked mode at this pointIm uninstalling I cant care about this bullshit anymore for at least a year
Match ID?
>>500358493Hello twinklockers
>>500358820see you tomorrow
if we dont shuffle these retard teams this time or try to balance them, I am going to say the n word
Singularity?more like SKILL DISPARITY LMAO
Need one more for inhouse 9WQRD9WQRD9WQRD
>>500358930What's so unbalanced about current teams?
>>500358951nigger don't come here to talk shit when you had a singular good black hole and like 5 of the rest were single target black holes that got you killed
>>500347112>the cheater was the accuser just trying to spread discord
>>500358594You fail as a teammate and as a forced 50 agent, for this you shall be given 1000 lashes.
STOP SHUFFLING THE FUCKING PLAYERS AND START THE GAME
>>500358493Privet ziggers!>>500358930I just made perfect shuffle and some retard shuffled again
>>500359037They hate us cuz they ain't us
shuffle the teams until Im on the team with all the good playersnew meta
hope i was a little less useless this game than last game. ggst. pocket, then lash
Nice
>>500359172>WardenI thought he was basedwtf is this
>>500359172>Pocket not thereConfirmed straight.
>>500359540you're such a redditor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le1QF3uoQNg
>>500359172i will have sex with that anon.
>>500359318>starts sliding on your last bulletthat seems op
Does anyone have results from the last inhouse?
>>500358343idk cuz i'm punching him
>fuck around and say gamer word >get comm banned>whatever bitchy game, dont play>play ranked after>get 12 wins in a row, say literally nothing other than pings and the occassional mid/gank because no one talks anyway>login, get phantom 6 today>see comm banned>whatever, I'll play nonranked>it's a bunch of griefing assholes and leavers>the game actually enables sore losers to report you and get you commbannedI guess I had my fun with it, but I'm not going to play a game where I can be forced into shit matches by people being salty for losing and I don't even get to talk shit to deserve the ban.
I'm thinking I might try out a different hero aside from my main this week for ranked, and see what that does for my rank.
>enemy weakens our patron and gets it super low while we're dead>two guys respawn and push them back>we win because we'd been gradually pulling ahead in souls all gameurn changes made this the least snowbally MOBA and anyone who says otherwise doesn't play the game
>>500360982I call people niggers all the time and have never gotten a penalty
>>500353536Coin Toss: Toss a coin. Shooting the coin out of the air breaks and ricochets the bullet, revealing and damaging enemies hit in the area with her base damage. Procs on-hit effects. Upgrading it adds a slow component, scaling spirit damage, and more ricochets by shooting the coin again.
>>500360982i've been calling people niggers since i started playing but it never got me banned, i only got muted for telling my rivals to git gud
if people really want to climb your best bet is to play normal and stomp win most of your games remember normal is seeded to ranked
Is there a way to play NA ranked from EU without vpn use, there was something about a console command to change region I heard
>>500361202>>500361315I played around 400 matches in the last 2 months, and it's the 2nd time in basically one week. I'm guessing ranked just makes people salty as fuck or something. Either way, I permanently removed it from my steam account. sucks tho, I was having fun playing vindicta for the first time and spreading crow aids
What's the best build for viscous
>get 2v1ed or 3v1ed all game>retard teammates still manage to die and do nothing despite not helping me>we get a decent teamfight win late game>it's a 6v3 urn running scenario>nobody groups up and dies alone and we manage to just not get urn then instantly loseHOW ARE THESE SUBHUMANS AT THIS MMR HOWI even said on the mic "hey can we group for urn these guys are overconfident and are definitely going to fight it let's stagger them" then we still die Fucking tards
is this good or not i can't tell
>Team fights without Dynamo>Team lose fight>Again and againNot sure what to tell you guys
>>500358369stop breathing so loud bro
its cold....
>>500362057averagenot good not bad
>>500362265Im a obese powerlifter
>>500362223If god had wanted you to win inhouse he would not have shuffled me!
so are they just not balancing the hero labs heroes? why is slork still oneshotting everyone and taking no damage?
>>500360982i actually got comms banned for not even saying anything. if they don't tell the reason for comms being banned like league then i won't bother anymore
>>500362223>dynamo ults 4 guys (with 0 teammates around)>ult finishes>presses refresher and does it againwow well played Big Hat!
>>500362406just buy armor and antiheal
Ok KnockdownSpirit shield And veil walkerIs pretty fucking good imo
they need to fucking fix mics in customs being so disjointed
>>500362406buy metal skin and pop it when he rushes you.
>>500362374just a little suprised people just elect to teamfight without me and discover they keep losing, yet continue to take fights wihtout meIts just inhouses so its w/e>>500362451ye I was bored That was like the third teamfight where you guys chose to fight without me and we lost again
>>500362223nigger i saw you solo ult 2 people while the nearest teammate was at least 60 meters away
>team forcing down a walker>call to viscous that wraith is trying to trade blue for it>he just does basement camp and lets blue walker die 80-0incredible ascendant gameplay
>>500362223>Team fight is free>Dynamo has ult>Just stands in the back like a fucking retard with ult full hp>2 of us die>Teamfight is free >Dynamo has ult>Refuses to ult>Then ults when everyone left (because he wasn't ulting)Big hat is such a dogshit fucking player, completely carried by the character>>500362509case in point, not a SINGLE fucking shred of objective damage
>>500362509that faggot literally maxed crow / disarm first with knockdown curse and just played dota 2 CC botwhy does crow + decay do 81% of my health 13 minutes into the game
>>500362509>Vindicta top damageWhat The FUCKhttps://streamable.com/tfxmme>Eating shit on lane really badly because yamato slash is fair and balanced clipping you through walls>This happens And with this small trick we are back in game
>>500362223I apologize for shit talking you, since you saved my life 5 or so times with Rescue Beam and Quantum Entanglement.
>>500362719There's no fucking way you're complaining about Yamato when you're playing fucking Paradox.Ain't no fucking way, I refuse.
>>500362509whats the match id I want to see someones perspective
>>500362708Vindicta needs to be played like bounty hunter in dota not like an epic sniper
>>50036286125549972
>>500362719el goblino
WHAT CHALL GONNA DODONT YOU KNOW WE ALWAYS COMING THROUGHME AND MY CREWLET ME HEAR YOU SAY FIRE IT UP!!!SAY FIRE IT UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXGbR58bcc
>>500362509i always forget how to play mirage and do jackshit really should get around to actually making a build so i don't forget what i'm supposed to buy
>Deadlocktracker isn't actually accurate at all!What drives this schizo? Is he salty because his main is up in winrate and he's afraid his mmr is inflated?
>>500362861who's perspective are you sussed out about enough to get into replay for?
>>500362847Paradox is worst hero in the gameOk maybe after haze.:^)
>>500362509anyone want to run me by how vindicta did most damage that game by a gigantic margindid 4 people just protect her at all given times like fucking NFL linebackers?
>>500362908Does anyone have the results from the match before this one?
>>500363046kill yourself bug shaker
>>500362985I'll believe their stats when they explain how they're sourcing them without API access.Until then I will assume they are making the numbers up.
>>500362719>1k souls behind>misses kinetic>grenade does 70% of the yamatos hp?????????????????????????????
>>500362985I have a feeling that deadlock tracker isn't accurate because it says I'm top 0.4% for headshots and there's no fucking way I'm good enough for that.
>>500362542because you're all fucking dead and keep splitting away from each other>>500362691>teamfight is freethen let me actually engage it and dont offer yourself up on a silver platter when I can't step up yetdon't know if you noticed but the enemy team had like 4 different ways to disable Black Hole or cuck you guys from even following up for meI have to pick a good moment, don't just mindlessly walk forward and expect me to pull a 4 man out of a hat for free, that shits genuinely hardI've got Haze, Vindicta and Paradox with both Knockdown *AND* Curse to worry about and you expect me to snap my fingers and win the teamfight
Bros I'm gunna be Phantom next week and the schizos are gunna seethe
>>500363109Grenade does 50 damage per tick
>>500363075By tracking results through the watch tab. It's not hard to do, just a little slow.
>>500363071I couldn't get the ID to work when I entered it, I think some retarded made it private or maybe it just wasn't working
>>500363194>because you're all fucking dead and keep splitting away from each otherit was on fucking lane lmao
>Mirage, Mcginnis, and M&K needed buffs because well...THEY JUST DID OK?From one cancerous meta to another
>>500362509damn yall niggas need to hit towers wow soul you actually might have done the best out of all of them congrats
>>500362719all this does is show how utterly fucking broken paradox isenjoy the nerfs bug chaser
I shuffled so I could be on big hats team btw ;)
>fixed the free assists glitchGay
>>500363070Percentage damage against like 3 tanks on enemy team. Here's what billy had.
no more inhouses?
>>500363070Wasn't in that game but >mostly spirit buildI'm guessing crowmaxxing and CD/rapid recharge and justCROW-ULT POKE-CROW-ULT POKE-STAKE-CROW-ULT POKE-CROW-ULT POKE-STAKE
i will int and die if the tranny playing with the shuffle button forces me into a duo lane.
>>500363228There's zero point in playing or caring about ranked when you can just abuse the broken auto win hero of the patch and get inflated by two whole ranks or more.
I'm done with this bullshit game. Call me when Slork comes out to the main modes or when 1.0 drops.
>>500363239The watch tab doesn't show results, so this is impossible.
i'm pretty sure bug shaker is the guy who spams posts downplaying paradox
>>500363575I'll bet money that Vindicta barely gets touched next patch
>>500363575He's been onetricking vindicta even when she was awful.>>500363696It puts you into results page once the game ends.
>>500363070it's fucking vindicta she's the most broken hero in the game you stupid waifufag trannies
>>500363730bug shaker is a pretty serious one trick and doesn't even do as well as he should considering just how broken the character is.
>>500363575nah he legit has gotten better at the game lmao his decision making has gone up when i played with him in the inhouse todayis he using a s tier + hero of course but he evolved as a player
It's really funny watching you guys put together an inhouse and then 30 minutes later you all just start complaining about each other.
>>500363774>He's been onetricking vindicta even when she was awful.no shit, and he suddenly starts hard winning when vindicta gets hard buffed to the topwhat a coincidence
>>500363818everybody good at the game is a onetrick.>>500363820this. he feels far less insufferable to play with when he's on my team. far less whining and far more deadlocking, so he must've taken my advice to heart.
>>500361689bump
the way this game managed to catch me compared to dota or LoL is probably because there's a way to optimize everything you have to doe.g. imagine clearing a ward. there's not really anything you can do other than clicking away ASAP once you're done watching your character slap it
>>500342316Now this game has my attention.
>>500364048The way this game managed to catch me compared to dota or lol is because it's actually fun to play it.
>>500361689no the game is region locked now the command to change region used to work but it doesnt anymore unless they changed it
>2 weeks ago I went 2-5 in my ranked games got archon 6>this week I went 5-2 in my ranked games still got archon 6Alright well fuck you too game
>>500364169yea it's fuckin terrible i wanted out of this animal bracket already but i guess your mmr is just never going to change unless you make a new acc
>>500364169so in total you're 7-7in any case what game do you play where you expect to go up in rank after just 3 wins?
>>500364083why is this spell so ridiculously brokenthe game just stops working when it gets cast
>>500363818HeyI won one game as wardenThe issue is i just enjoy paradox more than other charsI really want to holliday thoughShe might be the new broken hotnessHave you guys seen how huge is the stomp radius?Its fixed nowAny custom hero lobbies?https://streamable.com/ihkfln
>>500364226I haven't actually had a lot of problems with my archon games. People do objectives, communicate on mic, help each other out and stuff. It's not a bad rank to be at.
>>500364169lmao you still dont understand it doesnt matter its seeded from your "unranked" games once you figure that out you will grind normal then go into ranked
>>500364083finally a bigfoot hero
>>500364363start one i wanna play calico
Stop bitching about being in Archon.I'm in fucking Alchemist. Be grateful.
>>500364458I can't start because im EUna bro can start for me
>>500362432>>500360982I checked the official shitcord and literally everyone is complaining about comm bans. Gonna stick to inhouses for now
BGHB4 hero labs probably just 1 match or 2 if it's quick.
>>500364578I cant be comm banned because i didn't play pub matches for weeks now lelIm a inhouse outhouse
>>500364364It was fine last week, this week i am getting literal monkeys. last game some guy did 5k damage total in 30 minutes on dynamo. that's one ult worht of damage. idk man
>>5003645983/6
>>500364430No. You gain mmr from winning and lose mmr from losing. Then when you get above a certain threshold you advance into the next rank/subrank. Ranked and unranked mmr have been seperated as of the release of ranked. The mmr gain/loss is dependent on the difference in mmr between the two teams.
>>5003645981 moar
looking down upon all the below archon plebs from my phantom 1 tower.
>>500365228The gap between archon and phantom is genuinely pretty big surprisingly, you'd think there wouldn't be that huge of a difference but it feels like I'm smurfing when I go against archon players
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/compilation-rampant-report-abuse-instances.40282/
>>500365005How is it separated when yoshi himself said that ranked is seeded from your "unranked" mmr unless something changed
>>500363981>everybody good at the game is a onetrick.Nah
>>500365117start the fucking que
Custom games need a lobby text chat and an all random mode, death to all the otps
if your phantom 1 or below are you even trying LOL
>>500365425Maining a hero is the best way to improve at any game and generally that's how most people will reach their highest peak. Playing 2-3 can be fine but people that are playing like 10 different heroes are generally gonna fall behind / hit a wall faster than others aside from people that are just meta abusing and just going from one broken hero to another.
>>500365375It is seeded when you play your first ranked game, after that it's seperated.
>>500362719>max damage grenade amp + walked through wall multiple timesyeah it was over for him should have played better
>>500342813There is zero reason for Magician to not look like this. There is zero reason for every character in this game to not be a big breasted, fat assed woman with long legs and dicksucking lips. Explain to me why you would ever want to not see hot women
READY UP NIGGAS
>>500365742Ivy is cuter than that picture, thoughbeit.
>>500362518>just pop metal skin every time you see slork and run away or die instantlythats not balance lmao
>>500365717so what, you can't play against paradox from range and you can't play against paradox up close because she auto wins both while behind while also being a godlike initiation/pick off hero?why do paradox sissies complain about this broken ass bullshit?
Em hello??? lobby tards??? are you there?????
>>500360982Same, I never use chat and got comm bannedthis game is getting to the level of Blizzard reporting. people get pissy and report you for everything if you dont follow their lemming ways or if you do subpar.that is fucking embarrassing.
>play paradox>lose>play shiv>winrly makes u think
>>500365658Wow lmao good to know thanks for the correction brother
>enemy gets abrams infernus AND mcginnisgg, really like the lack of draft it\s quite fun to have matches decided by rng
>>500366106if one side banned ban haze, infernus, mcginnis and the other side banned mokrill, vindicta, grey talonthe games would be soooooooooo much better
>>500365901Ah see you forgot the part where paradox also wins in any closed areas and any tight spots because grenade and wall are insanely overpowered.
WAKE THE FUCK UP RETARDS
>>500365523we been in 1you probably in lobby
>>500364364I'm flipping between good team and some complete retard team>Ask if anyone need swap in their solo (hint hint the infernus and haze in their solo lanes against wraith and talon>Nah I got it>Infernus afk for the few sec, give wraith the first kill>Basically just constantly BROOLING and dying to wraith>Ask him to swap after he's 1/3 and like 2k behind>Take offense for some reason and tell me to fuck off>Basically just feed the whole game and end with like 13 death in 20 min>Haze also loses badly to gray talon>Other dual lane also lost badly and feeds the shiv>My duo the only lane that was slightly ahead but the game is basically over
>>500365648The game requires you learn at least 3 heroes. The game has no draft mode and ranked is solo queue only. Good players are good at multiple heroes.
>get COVID>feel like shit>can't talk because of sore throat>body ache and chills >queue up for some comp anyway because I have nothing else to do>still outperform the majority of the lobbyMost people fucking suck at video games, I think
>>500366614>The game requires you learn at least 3 heroeswhite wraith and haze, purple a less-saught after hero100% pick rate of your purple hero.
>>500365901Paradox players are the worst downplayed in the fucking thread. Paradox has never been considered a bad characters by good players but they just cope that MikaIS carries the character (but plenty of teams also run paradox with different players).Paradox can solo many characters while being behind on souls with ult combo. At even soul, she can whiff half of her shit and still win the duel.
We need to start partying up and just mass reporting everyone
>>500364135I just explained why it's fun
>>500365346>>500361727>>500366067
>>500364445They should add himStealth based hero would be really coolMake Calico full turret master and give stealt melee stuff to Bigfoot
i really feel like alt f4ing whenever my team is down 4 walkers to the enemy having all 4 still up. fucking retards have no presence on the map because they are always jungling
>mo and kill was broken last patch>buff him again this patch for the lulz>is massively oppressive this patchSeriously. You basically get a free kill every minute.
>>500367294buy knockdown
>>500366614>requires you learn at least 3 heroesnot if my other 2 heroes are the most broken heroes of the patch. you take my pick? suffer a migraine and die, nigger
saga wake up
Paradox is most broken hero of the gameThat why if you mark it as prio in pubs you get it 99% of times :)Its only logical, players don't want easy wins
I picked nothing but vanilla heroes, so hopefully you guys can get lab heroes.
>>500367458so you're playing more than one hero, gotcha
Think I might just alway start buying knockdown in addition to decay. Watching a top player playing vindicta with it and it seems like it's so fucking good.
>>500364169>>500364226You're not playing enough games
how are people in phantom and still trying to melee troopers with the enemy laner standing right fucking there?how are these people the same rank as me?
>>500367779>playyeah i am playing them but learning them? no need to when they play the game themselvesi abused shiv when he was braindead retarded op and i didnt have to lab the nigger i just chose a top build on the menu
I'm scared of playing ranked.
>>500367837>be eternus 1>still melee every trooperhe is not playing wrong assuming you, as his lanebuddy, know what you should do.
>>500332370>fight pocket>urge to play again goes down massivelyclassic
I don't think there's any hope for me, bros...
>>500368175no, i'm laning AGAINST retards trying to heavy melee a trooper i am literally standing inside of.people are fucking DUMB.and then somehow, across the map my teammate died to the exact same thing. i watched the replay to see how the fuck a wraith loses to a yamato in lane and got my answer.
>my main had the lowest winrate of the game last week>still went up 2 divisionsNeat?
>>500368165you don't owe anyone but yourself a good performance
>>500367803Knockdown to guarantee birds, with decay you basically autokill someone right?
so is mmr just based on how many kills you get? 60% winrate on healmaxxing kelvin and i lose a rank somehow
>>500368564>you basically autokill someone right?decay and birds do percentage health based damage, of CURRENT health. So it's gonna do less damage as the health goes down
Is balls seven good?
made it to oracle and the players got worse. at eternus do they just uninstall after the match starts
>>500368763Yes
>>500368691brother no one knows how ranking is being done right now seen people say they lost a bunch of games and still ranked up and saw a lot of people say they won a lot of games and lost a rank so just keep playing
>>500368165There is no difference from unranked. If you get any anxiety about seeing your medal just don't play the seventh ranked game in a week and you won't get your medal.
>>500368936>win game>get mmr based on the mmr difference from your opponents>lose game>lose mmr based on the mmr difference from your opponentsIt's that fucking easy. Every valve game does this.
I think wrecker's ult should have its spirit scaling doubled but duration halved so he isn't just flying around doing nothing for 20 seconds before he can nuke.Although doubling it might make it way too strong, maybe 1.75x and half the duration
>>500369996>i think [ult that instakills abrams] should have its spirit scaling doubled ok
>>500368763No
is grenade still the proper way to build spirit kelvin? Or is beam the move.
Fucked up lineup, we didn't manage to win in 25 minutes so we ate shit
>>500370153It's funny how many retarded ESL's browse this general. How brown are you, anon?
>>500370294forgot image
>>500370320i think your retarded
love that brief moment of joy when you realize the retard from last game is on the enemy team, only to have it snuffed out when you see your abrams go 0-6 in four minutes
>>500370320i just had a match where an indian haze was making calls the whole gamehe actually didn't do a bad job but we lost anyway because we fucked up an attempt to contest midboss
>>500370519>your>inb4 "I was only pretending"
>>500368763Maybe
>>500370320You literally can't be wh*te and into MOBAs.
>>500370591who fucking cares faggot
i guess i really am a phantom after all... *griefs hundreds of games in a row*
>>500370813>he's actually a brown thirdieLMAO, called it!
>>500370320Ukraine lost.Your children will be brown.Abdul Ismail will succeed Gaben.
>>500370893Shut the fuck up bastard
>>500370973>Ukraine lost.which timeline are you posting this from because in our timeline they're still occupying kursk
magician was fun to play. thank you for the games lads
Holy fuck I am so done with this game.> Play Ranked> All of my team's walkers are down, Haze on the other team is splitpushing base guardians> The other team still has a walker on yellow and no base guardians down> Point this out to my team, who are all busy chasing the other team's Ivy up blue> "Fuck off, you're trash, what do you know, negative KDR"> I'm 5-6 because I'm being forced to janny three lanes being pushed by 5 people and getting jumped 2v1 or 3v1 in base> The Ivy kills two people, the rest return to base and promptly get demolished> Get screamed at more for "not trying hard enough", Wraith on my team is berating me for "picking the wrong build" when I'm playing Infernus using the same build literally everyone else uses> Paradox and Wraith sit in spawn screaming at me while the other team kills the patron> I'm just fucking done at this point, uninstall the game and remove from account
>>500371476second match would have been fun if the wrecker didn't ragequit.
i don't like playing any of the hero lab heroes, so im glad to help you guys have fun and test them out.
https://streamable.com/zzdzlgLove that retarded ass cowgirl
>>500368761Well i assume you shoot at them a bit or land ult...
i think valve copied zander from battlerite. he has most of his abilities.
just to let you niggas know no matter if your rank high or low mmr you are playing the most cerebral genre in gaming so shout out to you
>>500372075fighting games require a bigger brain but MOBAs are definitely #2
>>500370264beam is boring as shit, ive found a lot of success with nade build reach items and alch fire lategame
>>500372125Holy cope you're an actual niggerRTS is first, by a massive margin. Then after than MOBA has an argument. Fighting is almost entirely input/reaction times. You can argue there's mind games--and there are. But those mind games pale in comparison to raw reaction/action loop time.
>>500371906like, 5 people played battlerite.
>>500332370newfag here how do i get good. i think i want to main ivy.
>>500372351Ivy is for retards so you can't get good if you play her
>>500372351what is good to you lmao that what you have to ask and are you willing to watch tape and willing to lurk this thread because that how you will become better at the game
>>500372351Make friends with an eternus and glue yourself to their ass with healing beam. It's just like playing medic in tf2.
>>500372298doesn't make it less true
>>500372260>Fighting is almost entirely input/reaction timesreactions don't matter because most things are literally impossible to react to unless you're 14 years old and overdosing on prescription stimulantsyou don't play fighting games
>>500372125go take a shower, fighting game nigger. everyone in this thread can smell your ashy knees and unwashed black ass through the computer screen.
>wreckers ult INSTAKILLS people!!!unless you buy spirit armor, just build around it, its weaker than Haze's and Mo and Krills ult
>>500372616what makes fighters harder then a game like dota 2 lmao or even deadlock
>>500372075>>500372125starcraft
>>500372812you need to analyze your opponent's playstyle and correctly predict which of 300 options he'll choose in the next 100 milliseconds
>>500372616>are literally impossible to react toNo, they're not. I'll give you taking prescription stimulants is a huge help, but that's par for the course in professional gaming.
How do i stop playing this game without deleting it from my account?Considering saying NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in matchmaking until i get a ban
>>500372957so pretty much every competitive esport ever?
Niggas (unironic blacks) arguing here that fighting games have more depth becauze x char punch has 30 frames and anothers has 32 and thats like insane rightKekGo change the smoke detector battery bro
>>500372998you must be talking about tekken, right? tekken has slow as fuck moves because there's no hitstop so the game would be unplayable otherwisei can react to jabs in tekken because they're like 18fin street fighter almost every normal is under 10f, including the "slow" onesno one is reacting to those, it's a mix of prediction and space control
>>500373103you can just hide games in your steam library.
>>500372438who should i pick if i like mobility
>>500372351One trick Ivy. Look up what ALL characters do so you at least have an idea of who you'll be dealing with besides Ivy. Lose a lot and learn from your mistakes. Google how to lane, farm, when to team fight, etc.Do bot matches and fool around in the sandbox.Also Ivy's three (stoneform) isn't a good tool for starting team fights unless you're above the enemy. It's usually used as a counter move, since it makes you immortal for a second and then stuns anyone dumb enough to be near you.Use the bomb on your Ult to set up your stoneform. Kudzu is useless unless your build spirit. If you build spirit Kudzu is your damage dealer.
Why don't kelvins play alchemist fire?I havent EVER seen a single kelvin play it
fighters are generally harder because no skills carry over between genres. you can't really randomly be good at fighting games
>>500373307The Lash
>>500373439You arent randomly good at rts either dumbass
>>500373307Viscous or Seven with speed build
>>500373535and dota isn't an rts.
>>500373593its an ARTS
holy fuck 3 of my ranked games should've been wins but we just threw them im gonna scream
>>500373389i just recently started using it, its pretty shit without reach items but its a really strong lategame tool
>>500373389kelvin players are carried retards
>>500373439this is it. in most games we learn how to shoot and that function is the same in all games just aim and click. same thing with racing games gas and brake and drift. but in fighting games no other genre uses its mechanics so newcomers give up faster than anything combos are unintuitive cancels guarding yada yada and so fourth.
>>500373389i buy heroic aura first on support kelvin
>clear purple all the way up to the walker >the team just leaves and go farmingYep, time to sell all my items and buy magic carpet
>>500373307anyone not saying kelvin is wrong
>>500373765With mystic reach for 500 your alch fire should be size of your dome no? Or very close to itAnd outside of dome the beam would also help to keep them inI have to try it in one of inhouses
>fighting games chimpanzees sniffing own fartsIm out Go steal a hellcat or something
>>500374560talkin to yourself lil bro?
already 3-5 in ranked. top damage and 2nd or 3rd highest obj damage and souls every game. i love ranked. very cool game mode. i love having this be my teammate in a 39 minute game.
>>500374657>haze jungles all game not bothering to shove waves or threaten walkers ever>finally uses ult for the first time in 15 minutes>instantly wall slammed by abrams>lose afterhate these animals
>>500374423they have the same radius yes, but only if you take the time to find exactly the middle of the dome to throw it. this is its size with all reach items and its really really good for base pushing or defense since its big enough to block/push 2 lanes also noteworthy it procs escalating but not mystic slow
>>500373389I use it but it's not really that amazing, mostly since Kelvin is so OP he can utilize other actives better
its joever, im trash
>>500372998http://www.teyah.net/milliablocker.htmlpost your results, if you can block all 5 overheads I'll believe you
>>500375329>infernus>lashhow the fuck are you this low
also using alch fire in the dome makes it look like a chronosphere which is badass
will we ever get a hero that's a child? i don't think dota has any kid heroes.
>>500373389kelvin players are cringe but not so cringe that they would buy fire on the ice hero
>>500375432vindicta is in this dude's preferred age rangedota has kidvoker who is a disgusting malformed gremlin
>>500375432LMAO i remember that niggas last 5 games before getting filtered unless he is trying the game again
>>500372616>Fighting game demands the best reaction time>Can be dominated by boomers in their 30's
>>500375378ngl it seems impossible to climb ranks, it's like counterstrike global offensive where silver was impossible to get out of unless you spent 100s of games without taking a break. The rank decay just put everyone of all skill levels into silver so it was just a mish mash of randomness. They really need to up the rank variance to get people where they should be. The retarded players I see that do zero things good for their team should drop to initiate in 10 games not 200
>>500375432 I fucking wish, but we'll get 2 more boring uninspired niggers, 3 more furry heroes each more ugly than the previous, 4 more bara bait musclemen and 3 hags before they even consider a white woman of regular age let alone a child.
>>500375664theres a lot of boomers in the fgc but none of the boomers even win tournaments anymore let alone make top 8. theres always someone younger and better around the corner.
>>500375963Holliday is likely to be either the next hero or the one after that you dumb pedophile.
>>500375609deadlock needs danny devito invokermobster with an irish flat cap but he's the trash man
why would anyone buy glass canon when you can just buy 2 tier 3 gun items and have an equivalent if not stronger total boost to your weapon damage
when the game is going to be very fun
>>500376146>why would anyone buy an item that fits in 1 item slot when they could buy 2 items that fit in 2 item slots insteadcongrats retard you just found out that the balance is between slot vs. cost efficiencyreal meta innovations happening in initiate 1 i guess
>>500375963I hope they add five more furries just to spite you.
>>500376479It's going to happen.
>>500376146glass cannon in general is a bad item.
>>500376102I was being hyperbolic you faghag lover.But even if you wanna be an antfucker she's among a nigger, a thing, they/them bait, a furry, another thing (they them bait yet again)>>500376479I wish I had such shit taste that I wouldn't mind looking at niggers & fagbait all day, then I'd be in complete tranquil with my head being so empty.
>TF2 Boomers by far have the most enjoyable and likeable players in the scene on their team (Salty, Tankman, etc) sans Benji>they can never win a game because they suck at fighting togetherDrop Benji from the team and replace him with Poshypop or TF2 Boomers is doomed.
>>500348043>kelvin doesn't IMMEDIATELY domeretard moment
>>500375970Tokido was dominating just a few years ago in his mid 30's.Of course, players seem to be in the prime in the late 20's but the the 30's doing well is as common as the zoomer early 20's and teensFGC seems to have older players at top level on average compared to other comp scene
>>500376479we 10000% need more furry heroes hoodwink hero would be very much appreciated
>>500376613>bad item.You're so retarded, don't post anymore.
>>500376627>nigger nigger nigger I HATE TRANNIES REEE btw I love jerking off to childrenin a just society people like you would be locked in padded cells and deprived of their legal personhood
>>500376146Glass canon is also a notoriously bad items. In fact, most raw stat items are the terrible to mediocre items in both T3 or T4. The best items have unique effect or is an active.
>>500376974It's bad because you suck at getting kills.
There is nothing worse in this game than matches where you just constantly run back and forward between your walkers pushing lanes because nobody on your team pushes lanes.Why the fuck is this so common? These matches where your team just spins in circles in the jungle for 40 minutes as you desperately try to push lanes until the enemy team inevitably win are so fucking bad. I would rather my team was feeding, unironically.
>>500376917In a healthy society we wouldn't parade people around celebrating them being buttfuckers or importing animals from the 3rd world but here we are. Are you a sodomite, anon? A nigger? Maybe both?
>>500377061In a healthy society, you would be in a camp, you leech.
>>500377028If you get enough kills and so little death for glass canon stacks to be worth it, it's already basically a stomp and you could have ended the game, if not sooner, buying any other items.
>>500377061You are so mentally ill you saw a character that's literally two people being referred to as "they" and started screeching about trannies.
>>500376193its not really fun anymore but ive played almost 300 hours of it. might be time for a break
>>500376739i think its more of a love of the game than anything that makes them stay so long. i can think there are other factors as play as well other comp scenes are more cut throat cause there is more money and stakes on the line so older players are often pushed out. while fgc is literal poverty niggas just playing for the love of it. i will say that right now no one in their 30s playing sf6 can make top 8s besides a select few. sf is a young mans game now.
>>500377162You only lose 1 stack on death. Getting 2 kills to compensate for that is very easy to do with the right build. I use glass cannon as Paradox and stomp with it since I also get headshot boosters with good aim.
>>500377274SF6 is unusually reaction-heavy.
this shit is so intimidating as someone never played mobas. i dont want to let my team down bros.
>>500377439Theres only one way to let your team down and that is doing stupid shit like just walking into the enemy seriously if you arent getting kills etc that's fine as long as you're clearing lanes and at least present in team fights no one will be disappointed by you
>>500377439if you are new then you're gonna be getting placed with actual apes so just play the game and have fun and if you get flamed remind those monkeys that they're so shit they're in your dogwater MMR for apes who've never played a MOBA before
>>500377439Get a friend who is good at support and they will yoink you (with rescue beam) when your positioning is bad. I do this with my partner whos skills are not at my level to help them better understand the game mechanics and the like.
>>500377439Just don't die, and I mean thatEven if you're not contributing a whole lot overall, it's way better to underperform than to feed. Remember, of you're out on your own and you don't know where the enemy team is, LEAVE, because you're probably 5-10 seconds away from getting ganked
>>500377439lol just understand anytime you feed and die your opponents get stronger and you feel it such a sick ass genre but i love it
>>500377439Just premute everyone and enable streamer mode, at low elo no one has anything worthwhile to say anyway, you can unmute them if you're winning, also I'm pretty sure the ping system still works if you have them muted.
Man seven feels so fucking bad to play this patch, the creep spirit res is too high late game I think
>>500377786>Remember, of you're out on your own and you don't know where the enemy team is, LEAVE, because you're probably 5-10 seconds away from getting gankedThe game teaches you this so fast, probably one of the most stark differences from dota or lol. The map feels small in a way.
>>500333435It's possible each game was higher mmr and just maintaining 50-50 made you climbI really hope it's not preformance cause that shit is retarded. W:l is an aggregate of all the metrics, similar to how price is an aggregate of all market information. You can't really algorithmically slice the data to get a better predictior Just think of all the quant funds, nearly all of them lose money because pricing better than the market is incredibly difficult. There is only a handful of successes and they have teams of the world's brightest working 24/7+ there's so few its not clear they arent just lucky. A preformance based mmr is a similar magnitude feat in data science. You are assuming that you can rank players better than a w:l while using less data than a w:l(because the w:l is a sum of all the things that happened in the game). You might find something that works temporarily but it's a gamblers fallacy
>>500377439Stare at the mini map. If you pay close attention to the mini map you will be miles above everyone else.Most of your game should be spent staring at the mini map.The entire game is a bugged out mess so now is the best time to hop in and start learning without worrying about performance
>>500377439I'm the opposite as (You). I've never played shooters, but have a lot of experience playing MOBA. My objective is to not feed my enemy laner and survive the laning phase. I win most of my games through superior macro.
>>500378289unironically what should i be paying attention to in the mini map?
>>500378253I'm hoping the weird rank changes are because of rank distribution moving around. Either the actual distribution changed or there are just more people in the pool than last week.If they're seriously not using W/L that's fucking retarded.
>>500378386creep wave placement, player locations, and jungle camps disappearing.
>>500378386Most important: enemy locations
>>500378219When everyone can dash jump and spirit around, it kind of is; I like it, feels a bit tighter than a traditional MOBA
>>500378386You want to see where your enemies are. Assume anyone who isn't visible is about to jump out of the jungle (the space between lanes) and rape your virgin boypussy, and position yourself to minimize the risk of dying as a result.When you are more confident you can also identify ganking opportunities when adjacent lanes are pushed up.
>>500378386if minions/camps are disappearing on the minimap, there's an enemy over there
>>500378450Bad news
>>500368165Honestly I've noticed that a lot of my unrated games are sweatier than most of the ranked games I've playedDon't worry about it
they definitely need to scrap the gun / spirit /vit item system so they can actually add melee only charactersthis game is boring because everyone can shoot. The fact everyone plays pretty much the same way lends itself to having OP characters almost guaranteed because there's no diversity. It feels more about draft than dota 2 already.
>>500378450What i do know have a lot of less people in phantom now went from 14.7 to 13.8 in na lmao the people that got carried is getting filtered out playing top 5k players isn't easy without your booster
>>500368946Honestly people are a lot more friendly and tolerable in ranked, I guess it's because people want to win but still, the contrast is pretty staggering.
>>500378450They said something about totaling the weeks games then calculating mmr, so If you won against a team that then went on to win 10 in a row, it would adjust your mmr gained up. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me cause it's kind of like beating shroud when he was 12yr old, just because he's playing well now does not mean back then he was unfairly ranked and needed adjustmentThe ugly reality is if you solo you need a million games for the law of large numbers to accurately rank you. The only way to mitigate this is by playing in consistent stacks
Can someone explain what determines if enemy hero is visible on minimapFog of war is easy to understand in dota but here i have no fucking clue honestly
>>500377060>babysit lanes while team initiates uneven fights, deep in lane>try to rotate in to save the overwatch blizzshit babies from themselves>nobody finishing kills, just switching between the person closest to them, everybody dies>shitter that initiates the fight immediately backs off after baiting the other shitters into a fight>team continues to brawl all game until an eventual loss>look at my damage bro>no communication at all, not even pinglish, in rankedCan blizzard push some overwatch content so I can get a good game in?
>>500379108No one knows. Have fun!
>>500366067>>500364681>>500362432got banned over a week ago for 2 days. proceeded to chill out and only push mic when I had useful info. winded up with another 4 days and couldn't finish my ranked games. I'm tired boss.
>>500375664the boomers in their 30s have played the games constantly their entire life so their reactions stay sharp for their age
how do i find good builds? i just started playing this game like 2 days ago, my friends told me pick from the browse builds shit but half the time its some russian garbage build
>>500372438>t. retard
>>500379515Make your own, that's half the fun I have in this game
>>500379328That doesn't matter. If the games were all about reactions (they aren't) then 90% of players would peak around 21 and then hit a wall between 25 and 30. Instead what happens is that people in their mid to late 20s dominate games and people in their 30s and even 40s remain competitively relevant. Fighting games are so fast that reactions aren't actually all that useful, because it's physically impossible to react to most buttons. This obviously varies massively by game, but even the reaction-heavy SF6 has a lot of older players doing well.
>>500379610but im shit
>>500379610New players can't do this because they don't know what the items do.
>>500379635If you wanna be boring just use Youtube or look at the watchtab for high elo and steal their builds, then modify it so it's more to your style
>>500379732Also yeah most build in public are shit because they're outdated or just picked a lot because they have funny name and bandwagon effect
>>500378450I was showing as Archon II in Phantom 1 matches because I had won 20 games in a row
>>500379626Yea, that was my point originally. FGC pro age are older than average in esport scene. Players now peak "young" in their late 20's because sf6 is more reaction speed demanding but that is borderline retirement/washed up age for fps pro scene. Knowledge, mental stacking, making reads and strategy/decision making seem to be dominant in FGC.FGC pro also seem to be affected more by changing life obligation (mostly marriage, family, or their main job) rather than their age in their 30's as well.
>deadlock starts stuttering>don't know if it's the patch or my pc is dyingfugg:DDDDD
>>500379126>Bro you only have 3 kills, you don't get to talk>I'm 3/1/5 and the other guy is like 5/12/3 or some shit like that>Uhhhh, you should just contribute more bro
>>500380120>FGC pro also seem to be affected more by changing life obligation (mostly marriage, family, or their main job) rather than their age in their 30's as well.Imagine if there was any real money in it like there is in League.
>>500380369Maybe, but depending on the comp scene is tough as well. Once you have family and kids, you can't have time to travel and practice as much to make money from winning. Transitioning to a successful streamer and content creator ends up giving more stable incomes with less work for the guy who made it as well. That's why kazunoko semi-retired from the comp scene even though sf6 comp scene has more money than ever.
>>500379108it still has Dota fog of war for the minimap, you just don't have a visual for it like normal.
>>500332370>changed the name of Ivy's gun from 'Cat Dad's Fancy' to 'Protector's Hand'wtf I liked the old name more
>120hrs>Blue V rankThat's it I have to quit there's no making it for me bros it's over. I'm wood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJfi5OWsgY
im not having a good time guys why was lady geist 0-6 at 8 minutes against a paradox
I felt that demotion coming
Fucking hate how much every character has to farm. I want to be able to teamfight and push like a 3/4 pos, but I always end up needing to focus jungle camps constantly. Even trying to play support you still need to have health nova, maybe locket, healing booster divine barrier, and rescue beam. That shit's expensive. You can try to buy barriers and roll through mid game, but you fall behind quick if the games go on. I'd prefer to have some more soft roles other than just hard carry and have more impactful abilities than scale without farm.
>>500381105csgo shitter stumbles across a moba
This chart is now filtered to high MMRShiv is supposed to be at the bottom. What are you ballniggers doing in high MMR?
>>500381160>pos 3/4Yeah, classic cs position LoL baby
>>500381105Souls are dime a dozen. You're a shitter if you can't farm up enough dough to support a support build.
>>500381224cry more shitter
>>500381247It's just fucking boring. You shouldn't have to jungle to be viable. And in high mmr everything gets farmed as soon as it can (you wouldn't know)
>>500381221buy toxic bullets and don't get double hit by his dash attack.what exactly is "high rank" here?
>>500381221Uhhh haze haters? I thought the champ we seethed about was le overpowered!
>>500381221Nothing apparently
>he posted the fake stats website again
>>500381105>Fucking hate how much every character has to farmBest Vindicta change desu. If you win lane and get a couple snipes then go a lane over and gank 1-2 people you've collected a couple thousand souls without looking at a creep.
>>500381221>What are you ballniggers doing in high MMR?refusing to build gun.
>>500381221Fuck m&k, most dishonest trash pick for braindead faggots.
>he's too low elo to have his games tracked on the sites
>>500381432>If you win lane and get a couple snipes then go a lane over and gank 1-2 people you've collected a couple thousand souls without looking at a creep.actually so insane that vindicta abusers post this unironically like it's something well balanced
>>500381105>i wish this game was dota againThen go play dota. The enforced role system sucked ass.
>>500381446Based gooballers
>>500381432Yeah, but vindicta is meta so she's fought over every game and the only one with that mechanic, but it does make her more fun to play.
>my team: yamato shiv haze wraith geist mo>enemy team: infernus mirage lash dynamo paradox vinthe way this game can just absolutely rape you on pure rng is hilarious
>>500381221they keep nerfing gooboy and at high ranks people don't end up in situations where they would get caught by his tricks
>>500381567>actually so insane that vindicta abusers post this unironically like it's something well balancedShe sucks dick at farming so you need something.
>>500381585He's not asking for forced roles, he's asking for supports who are strong without items. But I'm pretty sure Dynamo already fits that category, no?
>>500342316this should be her normal size
>>500381618Haze is the only bad character on your team but that can be a deal breaker, yea
>>500381687Kelvin does way better healing than Dynamo and Ivy from what I noticed. With Kelvin I got a game with 69k healing.
>>500381221>Seven second lowest winratebecause they keep trashing the only fucking things he's good at, ult dumpstered, 3 dumpstered, just give him back the fucking 1 range now that everything gets spirit resist anyways and call it a day
>>500381761unless yamato & shiv eat all the combos, they're just shit out of luck on teamfighting.
>>500381687Dynamo should still hit creeps when he has nothing better to do. Dota takes it too far because the game design requires funneling gold into your "core" heroes who use the gold more effectively, because there are more lanes than heroes and only one person can get a last hit. Deadlock specifically addressed this problem by automatically sharing last hits in duo lanes, because even Valve realized that the exact same metagame would develop otherwise. If you don't want to farm at all then you're asking for a game with the rigid old role system where a hard carry can vacuum up 80% of the farm on the map, and that game already exists.
>>500382003If one player gets most of the farm what the fuck are the rest doing for the entire game?
>>500381618Your team isn't made for teamfighting, but it's winnable. Just rape someone alone in an alley then play off that. Like 1 or 2 deaths on a 30 seconds timer is already game changing.
>>500382191our geist was 0-6 at 8 minutes
>>500382165There was a horrible time in Dota when 4 people would literally just work to protect 1 hard carry that was supposed to get all the farm. It made sense because of the multiplicative scaling of additional right click items. But even Dota has tried to move away from that metagame because it's basically asking everyone to optimize the fun out of their own gameplay. Now it's just the one guy who has to cuck himself for his team, and then if your team starts losing the soft support gets cut off from farm next.
>>500382383>losing lane as geistlmao
>>500382003I don't think there's anything wrong with a hero who thrives at 20k and doesn't mind letting Haze or Infernus take all the nearby jungle camps because he's happy with just half the lane income. I think we're also going to see a meta develop where you should let certain heroes (Haze, Infernus, etc.) clear lanes solo whenever it's safe for them to do so, so they don't have to split the souls.
Honestly I just think that most haze players just don't know how to play their champ optimally.
>>500382446against paradox, too
>>500382383>>500382446I had a Geist game earlier where Seven was buttfucking me in lane and I was hiding under tower at 100 HP. Then he did a laughably bad dive and I got a kill and turned all the momentum around for the rest of lane phase.
>>500382418>There was a horrible time in Dota when 4 people would literally just work to protect 1 hard carryHow tho? Deadlock is the only moba I've ever played. If you're down 10k on someone you basically don't get to play, maybe toss an ult and then leave.
>>500382523Paradox is good wdym?
>>500382603Paraslop players are dogs and can never miss an opportunity to downplay their hero.
Edwards9020 or whatever your name is if your in here im just here to let you know your an abolsute bitch. Maybe the biggest pussy ive played anything with in a while
>>500382653the matchup is easy for geist retard
>>500382576Because right click carries scale insanely hard in Dota. You buy agi items on an agi hero and it increases both attack damage and attack speed.
>>500382710Yeah but my question is if 4 of the players were 50% behind their carry, how can they even interact with the other team's carry? Don't the just get deleted?
>>500382576not that anon but the networth would look like this, you are going all in on that one guy to fuck everyone
>>500382797buying an item to hold their carry in place isn't that expensive.
>>500382848"just buy knockdown" ffs
>>500382797That's the exact problem which led to "BKB piercing disables" and the whole fucking can of worms that opened up. Exceptions upon exceptions piled up over the years.
>>500382797they buy ghost sceptre and the carry cant interact with them
>>500382873more like "E shift them when they try anything"
>>500382797They get deleted if they try to fight him in a right click duel, but dota's spells didn't scale with items for many years (and still don't scale much compared to other mobas) which means they were all designed to be strong even at zero net worth. So dedicated supports would have strong magic damage nukes that make them a threat for most of the game just from passive gold income alone.You can kill even an uberfed carry via chainstuns which is why they still need to be protected.
There's nothing inherently wrong with 4 protect 1, it just shouldn't be optimal in solo queue.
>>500382990>>500382951>>500382848>>500382418and you people chose to play this game? no one held a gun to your head and made you do it?
Yamato ass... also doll joints?
>>500383180Dota is a game built entirely around asymmetric power curves. Supports don't get to farm but they get to bully the enemy carry in lane instead because they're ridiculously strong at level 3 while most carries need a few items before they're dangerous.
>>500378386your question should be whenthe answer is when you're not actively shooting, casting spells, or pulling complicated movement
>>500383312Ayy joints
>>500383312Robot legs.
>>500380120This doesn't make sense because FPSes have more information than fighting games, not less. There should be more focus on the mental stack and less on reactions. More likely, there's some random muscle in your forearms or shoulder or something that weakens with age unless you specifically train it, and it's important for twitch aiming and shit. So the young people end up with an advantage just because that muscle hasn't started to weaken yet and nobody's discovered how to specifically exercise it.
>>500383527This nigga just hallucinated a muscle
>>500383527FPS's are more complex to the point that you can not consider all the data and everything is a judgement call with no correct answer, just better or worse choices.Fighting games are simple enough that the entire play space can be quantified and considered, but they're 1v1, so the whole thing boils down to playing mindgames with your opponent about which correct response is next constantly.
>>500382653>Paraslop players are dogsMaybe because you're in low MMR lobbies....
>>500383893>everything is a judgement call with no correct answer, just better or worse choices.This is also true in fighting games. Everything is risk/reward.
watching these tapes feeling like im in the hyperbolic time chamber
>>500384121Actually, fighting games could be solved with game theory fairly trivially (aka if you had a small team and supercomputer). FPS it depends on the game and stage. You could solve things like what angle to hold in CS, but only for first contact; after the first fight it gets too complex. For something like Deadlock you'd never be able to solve it with current understanding.
>finally try gay talon for the first time>picked a build that looked good after testing it in sandbox>goes well early game but soon spirals downward as the enemy team snowballs>hold them off from our base for like 4 minutes>ratginnies finishes our patron and wins them the gamemaybe i didn't heya hoya hard enough
Is there a single thing you can do to not get raped by Talon or Vindicta in lane, its actual agony when theyre perma in the air AND can dash and you cant use any cover to block from them
>>500384750next time pray to your ancestors and cry for the camera if you get behind, and heya hoya if you're winning and do a rain dance before every objective
>>500384121Yes but you're judging what the opponent is going to do usually, you already know all the optimal responses for every character>>500384621This is what I was trying to get at. There's a certain lower level of complexity where human brains can actually consider every single thing in the entire game state and that's more difficult not less
>>500384621I don't really agree that you can solve a fighting game more than an FPS. Yes, it ultimately all comes down to a very complex matrix game for fighting games - but for FPSes, it doesn't come down to a game at all. You either shoot them in the head or they shoot you in the head. And you can say, we'll there's movement etc. in FPS, but that's true in fighting games too. You can solve a mixup in a fighting game but you can't really solve the neutral, assuming it's sufficiently complex.
>>500384891>perma in air>in laneThat isn't a thing >can't use coverThat isn't a thingBuy bullet resist/shield, healing and monster rounds and title to PvE mode if you can't brool
>>500384891do not let them get control of the bridge so keep the lane shoved if you are playing on the backfoot in solo lane sometimes you have to cut your losses if your team decides not to rotate focus on recovering
>>500385391>>500385391>>500385391
Lads I hate to say it but stinkbugs are the cause of 99% of my losses. They attack my screen and I'm forced to deal with them and lose
>>500385082I'm not gonna get into the details since it's clearly above your level of education on the topic, but even the neutral is many orders of magnitude simpler than something like CS openings. You're dramatically underplaying how important seemingly minor decisions are--which even include aiming for the head or not. Due to the additional dimensions in FPS it is overwhelming complex compared to fighting games, which are likely significantly simpler than any serious undertaking of game theory (like poker), even limit games.
>>500345928you let this guy play but not duppy
>>500358369>going for last hit meleeI've noticed almost everyone inhouse last desperate action is to always block, even if I never use melee to finish them
