>UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS/ggg/: NONENA/EMEA weeklies/monthlies: https://x.com/nafgcto>UPCOMING EVENTSParis Games Week | Oct. 23 - Oct. 27: https://www.youtube.com/live/IIYDPLu9L_AQueen Dizzy and Major Balance Patch | Oct. 31Team of 3 Open Beta #2 | Nov. 8 - ???Arc World Tour 2024: https://www.arcsystemworks.jp/awt2024/>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame Data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGSTPlayer Glicko-2 ratings: http://puddle.farm/top/allFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://twitter.com/Precho6055/status/1778514309015826445>Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strive >/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Modhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Displayhttps://github.com/Chitaso/StriveFrameViewer/releases (1.08/Pre Season 4)>Season 4 Balance Update Trailer, Oct 31sthttps://youtu.be/61_NyQKnU0w?si=aqCiNAwtInBV9b4y>Queen Dizzy DLC Trailer, Oct 31sthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H8lZpluJWc>Queen Dizzy Starter Guidehttps://youtu.be/H0ha3-S926k?si=-fu7s2YJEfxoj0hl>Latest Dev Backyard (17th Volume, June 28th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2249/>Latest Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.39>Current Balance Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.38>Nintendo Switch Edition Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9zCMBXz57k>Xrd/+R/#R Stuff:https://pastebin.com/tS6sjRUdhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/State platform and region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!SLASHED: >>500338089
>worst patch>worst OP picit's over
>best patch>best OP picwe're so back
>>500407475You need to be more attentive. The event section is outdated and the patch notes dropped.
>>500407475Holy...
no more funny 2H flyswatting TOD clips…
breadly sin
white women arent real
>>500408049those are 2 asian women
>>500408220honorary
>baiken buffed>ram buffed>A.B.A lost dash block but can combo off grounded CH danzai nowI'm eating so fucking good tomorrow brothers
>>500407475Those feet are kind of fat. Not interested.
just frame kara back mega fist combos will now be locked behind the combo maker
I think the patch looks okay.
sinbros we TANKIN' now
>>500408767the cum shot from Potemkin huge cock will insta kill Chipp now...
just voted sol for president
>>500407475Disgusting
Nago all H buttons guard crush + increased chip. Surely he'll be punishable right?Really surprised that with so many moves guard crushing now, IB/DS doesn't prevent it.
>>500408767Millia sisies are now the prime TOD targets
>>500408767You just know they'll get rid of guts in a future update
Why did Ky actually get completely gutted?Character is actually gone now lmao>undone Eclat buffs>no more midscreen foudre loops>6H is just going to get you killed when it's inevitably backdashed again>can't use j.S to control neutral anymore>no more FDADC j.SLegitimately fucking dead lmao
>>5004095686H doesn’t have CH recovery anymore. Who cares. Imagine whiffing that shit
>>500409908>Imagine whiffing that shitWas already completely trivial to backdash it since Ky has little to cover the option, you just had little time left to respond as most characters after backdash recovery, so why bother going for it.It's now a corner-only move though if it's increased by any real amount.
They added a whole combo mode just to limit everyone to one combo.
>>500410175GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE-. Please understand.
Why are we encouraging people to use default bgm
>>500410385my character, my character theme, suck my pee pee boo boo
>>500409472And in the same patch they took away Giovanna's guard crush
>>500410146Its 15 frames start up and 4 active frames. You can’t backdash it on reaction. They’re giving up ground and would be barely plus mismdscreen if they did it anyway. Not like Ky has othee long range options Its not like Its Late where you can get a backthrow
Asukasisters. Is it over?
>Ky sissies downplayingWe're actually so back
>>500405451I'm going to assume the stamina gain nerf is gonna be pretty substantial and that the followups are gonna be really plus and rewarding. Sin is gonna be able to do some crazy conversions in the corner with just one stamina and midscreen will be able to convert anything so long as he has 2. Kara super is gonna be obsolete at this point tho. Perhaps useful in certain situations, but it using stamina is just not gonna be worth it. It'll most likely be better to just go straight into super from buttons rather than getting that little bit of extra damage from doing a special before. This change is easily gonna change the way Sin interacts with everything now since his neutral has gotten even worse, but his reward is even better. That's on top of having to be way more choosey about when to go for stuff since he's gonna be really hungry for stamina. f.S with more recovery and 2S with more startup does suck hard, but I can certainly understand how a character with this much on paper reward shouldn't be able to access it along with decent neutral. I was thinking gazelle step might actually be a good tool since I think it may low profile now, but it using a stamina makes it something that I may only use in combos. Either way, it will work out. we need an updated version of this image
>>500409472isn’t Nago’s 5H just worse K mist finer now?
>>500410753OTK decks got nerfed. Beatdown is the new meta
How do you like it?
>>500410753TC2 BVLLS run this bitch
>>500408767Sin getting that much health is another reason that, unless the stamina nerfs are actually completely crippling, Sin walks away a huge winner of the patch. Health is so fucking important in this game just because it gives you more opportunities to use burst and burst options. Especially having a good guts rating. I was ready to play Sin regardless of what he gets, but I am very gleeful of what we have
>>500411009>How do I like ithttps://youtu.be/KlU3YDTadjE?si=6ruMozCSW8pJkm_5
>>500410639Please actually play the game lmaoIt's a 15 frame move with a massive extending hurt box. It is not hard to recognize the limited space it can be used in and make that shit whiff. If you can't you are simply fucking awful at neutral. You probably get nothing, but actually making it whiff is easy as shit.
>>500411009i rike itcatpcha: GOD4P
>>50041100910/10 just for the 6P nerf
>nerf or outright remove guard crush on various characters>get the impression that they're toning down guard crush universally>look at nagoriyuki huh
>>500411124Wait really? No more TC3 screen spam? What changed?
>>500411513special cancel > guard crush
>>500408767how the fuck are pot mains getting all that fucking health and all those buffs and then they have the gall to bitch about some shitty little input change that no one actually cared for. Most of the low health characters might as well not be in the game anymore
Rensen being a motion input seems like a much more notable input change than anything with Pot tbqhwys
>>500411632It's not pot mains is retards who don't play.
really though why the fuck was Gio one of the few they looked at and said they don't need straight buffs
>>500411589The shitty thing about Test Case 2 was always the import and mana cards, which have gotten good buffs. The low-gravity staff got a buff too but it doesn't seem that significant. Test Case 3 will probably still be good but they made mana regen worse and his fire cubes now all go from 1 to 5 instead of some starting at 5, that'll effect Test Case 2 and 3, but it'll have a bigger impact on 3. I'd say TC3 will still be good overall, but one of the best things about it got nerfed and the worst things about 2 got buffed.
i'm still VERY curious to see if buster roundstart is still possible, imo pot being able to play that is a big deal
>>500411779You need to get better neutral and strike throw
>>500411513Thats one of directions that actually make sense anon. They want nigo to be the guard crush character but take this away from others.
The last time I played a game was when I was younger and played Guilty Gear X. I liked the art and gameplay trailer behind Strive, so I just picked it up. Excited to learn the game!
>>500411762I didn't realize he had bridget levels of secondaries lol
>>500410839Yeah I don't think kara super is going to be worth it 90% of time now which is a pity since kara super is fun>followups are gonna be really plus and rewardingWhy would they be? all the followups and gazelle step (except DP) have more recovery nowI wonder if his low stamina bnb combo routes are going to be very different now even
>>500411813you missed the biggest buffs:fixed mana regen doesn't eat you rentire handhand shuffle now fills your missing slotsbricking witht hese two spells was easily the worst part of TC2
>>500412005That was the first thing I mentioned THOUGH
>>500411906Have fun anon. You're just in time for the huge balance patch and new character we're getting tomorrow.
>>500411632Doing inputs is fun. Why should we rejoice about braindead buffs?
>>500411943The notes say that he has guard crush on pretty much every followup now. I'm going to assume that also means that they have stupid blockstun too since that's been the case for pretty much all guard crush attacks and thus that means he may very well be plus after those, or at least safe. The increased recovery on the followups I'm sure is because they don't want to make conversion too easy and not because they want Sin to be punishable after. It's a clear design choice since they are making it so that stamina using options are much stronger
Thoughts on nightmares?
Johnny is a WHORE
>>500412241I am not looking forward to the guard cancel
>>50041231310/10 really fucking good
>>500411813Low-gravity staff is probably going to be absurd now. Low-to-ground airdash on a character with a j.D as low as his will be absurd. Once he's in he gets a free meterless instant overhead he can combo off meterlessly off any 5K or c.S btw.Test Case 2 already fit a good middleground of actually having regular cubes and also having niche shit too. Exodia was obviously the best strat but TC2 was never as bad as people seemed to think.
They brought back Goldlewis’ voice actor to the studio to record one new line
>>500412505xturdsisters????You said Strive isn't soul?????
>>500412230I don't think they're adding more blockstun since they would've written something it but I hope they doWe already have a couple minus moves that guard crush like Nago 6H or WWA so it's not like it's a strict rule
>>500412480I think it'll be good, but it depends on how low the limit is on when he can airdash. It will still be strong though, especially alongside the strength is already had with j.D from just jumping. The manipulation of cubes with those two staves is also quite good even if it's not on the level of the Accelerate or Vacuum, so he's not losing out on much there either.
Strive is and always has been literally the definition of Soul.Including all of its negatives.
>>500412505They didnt. Watch him being in anime same with Slayer even if very briefly. Those chars got new lines because of that.
>>500412709The UI is pretty soulless, let's be honest.
Soive is and always has been literally the definition of Soulless.Including all of its positives (not many).
>>500412371Strive-only nerds aren't ready for the turbo cancer that is guard cancel Baiken.
>>500412743He’s probably the arcade mode companion of one of the S4 characters just like how Testament got new lines after ABA dropped
>>500412859will people even be able to comprehend that airtight blockstrings are irrelevant to guard cancels? I guess YRC exists
>>500412859+R Baiken is the most cancer fighting game character ever, but I don't expect her guard cancel here to be that egregious. It's more like Azami, which wasn't that bad.
does being able to parry in blockstun mean you just get to invalidate any attack that hits twice for no reason like slayer's far slash
Anyone here play an instrument? I've been learning one for a few months now and I'm wondering if the mechanical dexterity can help with FG inputs dexterity.
>>500412902Thats possible too. I leaned more into anime because its obvious that new Ky vs Sin song and them getting new lines too during taunts is definetly them doing something around upcoming anime.
I think the fact that they randomly changed a charge character into a motion character in a patch like it's no big deal completely destroys any argument that motion inputs are carefully considered by the fg devs and that all the people arguing that their removal would completely change how the game is played are just flat-out wrong. Simple inputs in Season 5, trust the plan.
>>500413087Nigga just press the buttons, it's not rocket science
>>500413186this but unironically
>>500413186Anon they are doing that to buff those characters directly you know that,right? They even directly acknowledge that with Axl. This literally changes how the game plays you fucking idiot.
>>500413087I've always played a lot of instruments like guitar and piano and I've never had the dexterity problems with using the left hand or pinky I hear a lot of complaints about
>>500413180youre telling me this isnt some guilty gear revival and we arent getting more VS themes and more music in general
>>500413186They are passing it off as a big deal though, it's Axl's biggest change in the patch and they're treating it as such. If they weren't considering how the input affects how the character plays then they would have left him as is, they made the change to change how he plays.
>>500413087I learned guitar for a bit. Only thing it helps with in relation to fg is building a tolerance for failure. You could also argue you learn to play with a more consistent rhythm, but that can't be proven.
https://x.com/guiltygear_pr/status/1851504311768887333?s=46What do they mean wake up attacks? Wake up tightrope? Dodging enemy reversals?
Then why did Pot have inputs changed on top of a ton of other changes if changing inputs is such a massive deal
ot but i need to find some ulterior interests in life. Only strive gives me joy nowadays, unironically, i even stopped playing other games cause when i do i only think about strive
>>500412595When they add guard crush, they don't mention how it increases blockstun. It just does. Like when Nago got his 6H changed to guard crush, the blockstun went up drastically to the point he was only -2 whereas before he was pretty negative if he didn't special cancel. Sin's followups going to guard crush means they are most likely going to have better frame advantage than they do now, or at least better than what they were since that's what guard crush has always done. I expect beak driver followup to be at least 0 on block now and hoof stomp followup to be barely negative. the new hunger for stamina means that they should be worth it from a balance standpoint and that is what makes sense. I could just be wrong and they are even more minus than ever and Sin becomes season 2 levels of bad, but I doubt that
>>500413639you could try hrt
>>500413639I only play Strive to talk in the general desu
>>500413595His specials could overlap
>>500413893you're aware this is dodging the real question
>>500413962nta but what's the "real" question?
soive
>>500412993most likely yes. More stuff for Millia mains to doom over
Can I get a QRD on the I-No changes? I'm not really sure how this helps or hurts her, overall it seems like she will have about the same struggles and still not really be able to mix as well as many other characters.
>>500414495There were no I-No changesYou can divekick off mad love earlier so comboing with it will be more consistent and stroke's hurtbox got reducedthose are the big i-no changes for season 4
What are your predictions for what Alternative Play™ will look like in Season 4?
>>500413586Bad google translation, it means it's useful for oki
Why are pot mains mad about not having to do kara buster anymore?Its not as if doing kara buster was hard to begin with so its not as if you sacrificed hours of practice or something
>>500414703roping
>>500414813lmaocome on, we all know
>>500414813not hard in a vacuum but you could always mess it up
>>500413586>起き攻めyou should be able to solve this
>>500413586its been how long? over a year? and they covered how much of the vanilla cast? lmao
>>500414960It only took me maybe 5 minutes of practice to be able to kara buster with 99% consistency in the middle of a match. Its the easiest shit in the world, so easy that it may as well not even exist anymore.
>>500414813They don't have the >MUH EXECUTIONexcuse anymore
>millia changes>already pretty shit>nerf her moreshitterdev really didnt want to learn the matchup so they shot her in both knees
>>500415198Year and half. Ky,Sol,Nago,Leo and Zato still dont have their new specials lol. Everyone forgot about that so i wont be suprised if dev team did so too at this point.
reminder that if you genuinely wanted to play the execution character you'd have switched to HC a long time ago
Johnnybros we really did make it out of this like a bandit
>I LOVE EATING GLUE LOL IM SUCH A GLUE EATER YOU KNOW US POT MAINS WE JUST TO UNGA OUT AND EAT GLUE>character is made even more braindead>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAAAAAAT
>>500414703Currently a zoning Millia in constant risk of negative penalty.
posting paper Ragna to remind you that he should've been announced for strive instead of Lucy
Axl mains losing their MUH EXECUTION card with the tk bomber change made sense because tk bomber was actually hard to do, kara buster was easy as fuck.Now if they made garuda impact and megafist automatically kara cancel too then i'd understand. 99% of pot players cant do that shit to begin with though so I wouldn't believe them.
>>500415403kek no anon you would've swapped to a different game. Go play +R I-No
>>500415237And? You’re grossly exaggerating and still had a fail rate which meane risk. Top level players are dropping kara combos. FAB even wanted 6K cancels to be easier
>>500415403The highest execution character is Asuka thoughever.Even if he never even needed to use his retarded high APM pressure strings.
>>500415530>tk bomber was actually hard to doReally now?
>>500415548*means
What kind of jewishery happens in Zando's midget brain to doom about aquka after this match. This fucking nerd ass character is the exact same no matter how you look at it.
>>500415530i mean kara backfist was just erased entirely which reads like a pretty major nerf to pot when KBMF was basically its own move with unique applications
>>500415770Learn The Match-up
>>500415490He should've been a season 2 character then get reworked into an entirely different character in season 4
Potemkin players worse.
>>500415770Pro players doom about everything. Watch LoadKnight doom despite getting his Baiken buffs because of other characters getting guard crushes or some shit.
I 100% believe that not half of "fighting game players" play this shit. youre all just used to being horny and porn posting
https://youtu.be/XT9oC-kqM9s?si=gqdHVv8VBbe9ZXhVThis kara kino got patched out…
>>500415419I'm not complaining
>>500415632I think Asuka is a difficult enough character, but he's not really high execution. The APM is the only high execution thing about him and it's not at all necessary to be as high APM as Gobou to play him effectively.
Zato changes don't seem big. Still competitively worthless probably.
when does the patch go live?
tourists leave
>>50041622878 hours and counting
never
>>50041622819 hours
Genuinely how do you STILL force yourself to play this clown circus?
>>500415682Yeah, it was, lets not pretend otherwise anon. It had really strict timing and took a shit load of practice to get even a little consistent with it, especially in the middle of a game. Then if you wanted the more optimal stuff midscreen you'd have to start doing shit like fast RRC tk bomber routes which were exceptionally difficult.Also bomber loops before the change were also longer so you had more opportunities to fuck it up mid combo.
>>500415978Hey at least LK has been bitching about Guard Crush since the game came out.Also didn't he just completely drop Baiken for May?
>>500416384The old adage is true, no? soivahs be soivin
If you don't play a winner or a reworked character this patch is so ass.The most cancerous characters in the game either got buff like Elphelt and May or got away like Slayer.If you play a loser you either quit the game or switch main and im going to do the latter.
Press S to spit on Millia mains
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>>500416384I only come back for a week max with new patches. Its fun to swing the coffin every now and then.
niggas really thought arcsys would remove Slayer’s 2H special cancel
>>500416384it's the only fighting game i like unironically. Not trans btw
>>500416630They did remove nago h buttons special cancel, maybe something was lost in translation
>>500416384What else would I play?Slime Fighter is boring and Tekken 8 is even more cancerous and imbalanced that striveStrive is still fun to play if you just go into the park and shit on people for a couple hours
>>500414813Kara back megafist was really really good actually. If they changed the properties of back megafist it would be alright, but they removed it completely
two fishi dont know why
>>500416384Granblue is the only other anime shit with a decent playerbase and that is not filled with autists with 10 years of experience.Each time I go back to it I'm reminded that if your opponent press a normal 1 microsecond after your opponent in the corner you watch a 30 seconds cutscene of your character getting fucked.Avatar Belial in particular has like 50 hits bnb and some retards think this is fun.
>>500417156now there's a fireball flying through the sky
people are really going apeshit over the potemkin changes lmao
>>500417216>granpooper>decent player basedLUHMEOOOOOOOOWOOOOFWOOOOOOOOOF
>>500417216Yeah dude special special normal into 6 hit combo for 70% is super HRT duper amazing! Fuck yeah dude!
https://x.com/broskiFGC/status/1851533394213290268The SF players are laughing at the Potemkin changes
>>500417285I’m burning down the offices if they don’t revert in the Lucy patch#karagate
They laughed when I endorsed Alternative Play to make Strive a more expressive game. A game lacking individual expression. A game where everyone plays the same and everyone loses the same. They told me I was delusional and that I should "just improve". Now that your karas are gone, along with your individual expression, who do you think of? Me. Who was right? Me. It's never too late to take the alternative play pill. I won't deny you.
>>500416384>no slime>no heat>no modern controls>healthy playerbaseEasy decision
>>500417386Hey that's the guy who used to say the nigger word a lot on /fgg/!
why can only faust see the colours?
>>500417632>blocking? nah i brave counter>neutral? nack I turn bluegood game
>>500417386oh no no no soivesisters... the CapGODS are laughing at us...
>>500417753he huffed galaxy gas
>>500417660he wrote a 500 word twitlonger saying he was sowwy so his actions have been forgiven in the eyes of xitter
>>500417840kek what a bitch
>>500417632>no slimekek>healthy playerbasekekModern controls sure but not for long
>>500417368Better than melty and UNi combined french bread tranny.
>>500416384s'fun
>>500417660What's the nigger word?
>>500418046Wuz
>>500416384clowns and circuses are fucking cool
>while increasing the overall number of interactions per match>actually increase damage on every single characters every move>also increase the damage on every single overdrive and command grab, literally the exact opposite direction of what they did in the last patch and claimed to want to see in the gamethere are still bootlickers itt RIGHT NOW who will insist that the game designers are doing their best and infallible at their job and totally not retarded schizos
>>500418227They increased everyone's health chud
>>500417257keep that in icei made this design to explain in due time
The pot nerfs were to punish troon enablers like Home Depotemkin.
HC GAWDS win again
>>500417959Nta but a strive player cannot be speaking of other games having trannies playing it
>>500418227Sin can Gazelle step in neutral and now his follow-ups are better combo/pressure tools, idk what to tell you man I'm happy about this
>>500416384Hate the way sf6 lookshate how heat and the devs fucked my main game(tekken) so hard while it still has subpar netcode with what might possibly be the worst online experience of any modern fighting game even if I still play itlike being an asshole with happy chaos and shooting characters like I-no and millia to death.
>>500417386Small execution quirks like kara cancels are fun, it's really lame that anything slightly difficult gets removed these days. And not just Strive, it's all modern fighting games.
>>500417660He called me a nigger in 2016 when I beat his Dhalsim in SF5. I am NOT a nigger
>>500416384I play it in short periods when I need to wind down my brain from playing harder fighting games by messing around in floor 7-8.
Is Dizzy live in Japan by midnight?
>>500418627your cease and desist is already in the mail.
>>500418627soivers really play this
>>500418586>mall execution quirks like kara cancels are funsays who? It's just an annoying obstacle
>>500418627Is the vtuber the Leo or Johnathan?
>>50041892812:00 AM ~ 2:00 AM (PDT)
>>500419138thats omito
>>500419138It's Omito, of course he's the Johnny
>>500416384i don't play much soive anymore, but i come back to try out the new character each time. dizzy looks lame as fuck though so probably won't stick around too long this time.
i think people who act like execution is a trifling thing that gets in the way of playing the real game like it would be better if you had a brain wire that directly communicated your intent honestly just don't understand the appeal of videogames in the first place
>>500419093Says me, nigger.
>>500419093Ok weak sissy faggot.
Practicing my Baiken air combos for tomorrow bros!
>>500419093We get it. You’re a faggot that wants instant gratification and everything handed on a silver platter.
>>500419442Do you know what game you are playing.
>>500419279The most popular games in the world have their attacks made by clicking and specials done with one button
>>500416384>grubbrave counter wasnt touched so its still shit>sf6feels dogshit to play all characters are ugly>tekkengetting mogged by 10 years of experience + all characters are ugly + feels dogshit to play>any diskek fighterlmao
>play zoner>win each patchit's that simple
>low tier characters become slightly stronger>high tier characters become slightly weaker>one dimensional characters become less one dimensional by improving on their strengthsi dont see the problem with 1.4 at allall of these changes seem good
>>500419442yes and? Gonna cry about it?
>difficult execution>both players make more mistakes>outcome becomes more randompeople will call that a "real" fighting game>made execution easier>players become more consistent>you actually have to outplay your opponentpeople will call this a party gamealso MAY confirmed top-tier this patch
>>500416384I play all kinds of kusoge
>Player A can easily dash into button to followup into a combo after crossup Youzansen >Player B has a hard time and always drops the combo because he doesn't time the dash right>Arcsys changes crossup Youzansen to vaccuum on crossup, patching out Player A's skill and putting them on the same level as Player B>But Player B had other strengths over Player A, so now Player B is the stronger overall player whereas before they each had their strengths and weaknesses that balanced each other outwhy is lowering skill ceilings a good thing?
>>500419754>players become more consistent>you flowchart and get to interact lessfixed
>>500410839I'm hoping the stamina nerf isn't going to make me feel miserable because I have to hold down back for 6000 frames before I'm allowed to do fun things again, but that might be the case considering the better defense value. I find it amusing they label Sin as pic related but every single change is the most gorilla shit possible and neuters his actual ability to play neutral. Kara super looks like they want it to be a round ender thing instead of being something you always do. Depending on how fast raw gazelle is it MIGHT be a decent tool get in on whiffs and long range minus oB. I'm really interested in Hoof follow up ground bounce. Can we convert off the followup without gazelle?
>>500419754It’s a chess vs checkers thing. Checkers is easier and anyone can do it. Chess has a lot more to it that you need to learn and facing someone else who knows what they’re doing is an amazing feeling.
NOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT I NEEEEED TO PERFORM A PRETZEL MOTION 1F INPUT TO DO A SIMPLE ASS MOVE OTHERWISE HOW COULD I FEEL SUPERIOR TO THOSE FILTHY CASUALS AND VALIDATE MY 5K HOURS SPENT GRINDING THIS GAME EXECUTION IS WHAT DEFINES ME AND SEPARATES ME FROM COMMONERS NOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M SPECIAAAAAAL
>>500419513MOBAs as a genre are also not at all exempt from execution, DOTA famously has heroes like invoker and Deadlock asks you for pretty tight aim and movement execution. MOBAs are also a team-based genre where a lot of the challenge comes from executing coordinated plays, having everything be as easy as clicking a button doesn't play as well in a 1v1 genre.like damn man if you don't value execution in fgs why even play a real time action genre and not a strategy game or some shit like yomi hustle specifically catering to your request
>>500418778what are you then
niggas know that it's easy to bait on execution because it's simultaneously obviously a good thing to have if you have any understanding of the genre and tied to ego for a lot of people
We can't have people on the same character with different playstyles. Everyone must be the same. Patch out all individuality. You will do the flowchart and you will be happy.
>>500420056those games don't have hot bitches with big tits who are also sluts and are not anime coded
>>500419754>making a mistake is "random" Are you legitimately retarded?
>>500420214Their next cope will be “b-b-but it got more trannies to come and fill up the lobbies so obviously low execution is good!!!”
>>500420217there are people who will actually say that all characters should be equalized and capable of the exact same things and then continue to not play FGs when a game does that
>>500420049This but unronically.
nobody cares about kara cancelling except lab apesand lab apes don't play the gameit also serves no purpose since if you get out of floor 3 it's simply just another input and no different from quarter circles or charge motionsthere is no "skill" expression in this at allthis is a potemkin buff but you guys still complain i legit don't get grappler playersmake a grappler top tier a single time and look what happensi hope there is never a top tier grappler ever in any fighting game period
>>500420214everything i say here is always 100% unironic. Execution is retarded and pointless besides circlejerking
GAWDLIKE
>>500420454respectfully
>he's not even pretending to be retarded, he's actually retarded
>>500411937These people aren't pot players or pot secondaries. They're people who have latched on to an easily recognizable reduction in skill requirement and are using it to shitpost.
>>500420454Based Guilty Gear enjoyer
>>500420273>win a game purely because your opponent flubs their execution>"yeah... i earned that win"
>>500417660He looks exactly like the kinda person who would say nigger a lot
>>500420425>Execution is retarded and pointless besides circlejerkingactually high execution characters in fighting games are what i gravitate towards because the fun i derive from fighting games is mastering difficult characters and constantly improving with them
>>500420661If that happened in sports, nobody would care about “earning”
>>500420454We are so back!
>>500420419people drop karas at high level all the time, it's another point of failurewe also have no idea if this patch is good for pot. we need to know if>HFB is actually as good as it is in xrd now>pb is actually just as good as kara pb now>if pot hasn't just completely lost his kbmf juggle routes with no alternatives to get that kind of damagepot could actually be cooked this patch if they decided to compensate for him being easier by making him suck
>>500418627Why did he just refuse to block low?
>>500420907Johnny players kneel for no one
>>500420661how dare you capitalize on someone's avoidable mistake in a competition. nobody ever does that and certainly not in other genres of videogames
>>500420907It's an XrdGAWD thing, you wouldn't get it soivah
>>500420832it does happen, and people do care
>>500420661Yes? If my opponent makes mistakes why shouldn't he be punished for it?
I like how people complain about "skill expression" while playing the most gorilla retard character in the gameif you liked "skill expression" you would play Jack'o, Zato, Baiken, Happy Chaos, Testament, Asuka, A.B.A or any other character on the roster really that can drastically feel different to fight against depending on who your opponent isBut noSkill Expression on a fucking flowchart grappler
1.40 Bedman? is too honest for this shit
>if your opponent makes a mistake, you should let them recover and give them a chance to winthis kid was never involved in anything competitive in his life, no wonder he became a tranny
>>500420986yes you should punish themyes you should take the winyou might even say you're the better playerthat doesn't make it a satisfying way to win, these things are not mutually exclusive
>>500421069Nigga Testament is literally just about anti-airing or not. There are numerous playstyle differences between Pot players. You don’t see everyone frame trapping or mixing with heat tackle RC but every Testament player is doing the same jH empty low mix lol
>>500421174I do this when I am fighting a friend and I've been on a winning streak and I intentionally start playing worse or in general just more unsafe just to let them get some hits inI don't do it all the time, very very rarely, usually when there is a big time investment difference
>>500420832Unforced errors in tennis are super boring man. At low skill levels it's tedious not being even able to get a rally going. And when you're both supposedly good you start to get bored of not being able to engage with the other dude because he's too busy trying to go for moves even a pro would struggle with
>>500420419No one wants to do karas, only the benefit the input give. If a characters moves requires karas to be viable then the move should be changed to function the same without karas. >>500420852>people drop karas at high level all the time, it's another point of failureBut are they having fun though? Having to do a 2 frame input just to get the correct version of the move you actually want to do to come out. Makes more sense to cut the middle man and just let the move always function the way high level players use it. You're never going to see the original move anyway.
okay I'm dropping millia for real this time
>>500421307it does make it satisfying they made a mistakeand i didnt
>>500417840Can you post it?
>>500421069>Testament>Baiken>Zato
>>500421440Someone post THAT Millia jpeg
>>500421437doing inputs is fun though, arguing for removing them is a slippery slope to arguing that fighting games should be 1 button games
>>500421437i couldn't care less about using karas when I play characters that have them. it's a point of failure, that makes them satisfying to do. acting like that potential for failure on a difficult piece of execution isn't there is just silly.we are not playing a turn based strategy game. we are not playing chess. we are playing a fighting game where you have to press the buttons at the right time and stay focused. that is part of the game. if the combos absolutely are free every time we might as well not even have them in favor of single hits to get back to the trve honest fighting game nevtral
>>500421437>But are they having fun though?Yeah? Just like how his lack of a dash is fun. Would you find autocombos, one button specials or instant kills fun?
>>500421551You can tell a girl typed this. Own those bigot characters sister!
>>500421718Instant Kills are fun.
I honestly can't wait to fight suicidal Nagos now
>>500421795That's transphobic, chud
>>500421596Not him but I dont like kara cancelling and it's one of those really weird gimmick inputs that reminds me a lot about full circle or pretzel inputs and I feel with how fast paced and competitive these games have become that there is not really a place for them, at least in strive.The most awkward input that I can tolerate personally is the directional hold shit that zato has a lot of.>Uhm you're just bad lmaoI don't like the input, simple asEnjoy your pretzel kusoge while I am quartercircling
>>500421759>Testament>bigot characterThat boring nigga was designed in a laboratory to appeal to faggots.
>>500421571
>>500421069>S3 Baiken >player expression Fucking lmao. They even patched out skab combos. Why didn’t mention RF’s dumb Faust playstyle?
>>500412993I bet guard crush stops her
>>500421069listen i love ABA, but she's really not very "expressive" as most people would describe it.Her win condition is baked into her design and how you get to it is very clear. The only real expression is choosing whether to gamble when your JR is low.
Leo and ABA losing their weird autoblock dash is going to make them both feel extremely awkward to play
>>500418227They also increased defense across the board.Most of what they increased damage on was single hits or moves that are harder to confirm out of. Their goal is to increase effect of single hits and small combos while lowering the effect of full combos. That is a good thing.>also increase the damage on every single overdriveThe overdrive change was fucking retarded thoughever. They also didn't increase every super, only some. RTL still does less damage than many special moves for example.
>doing inputs is pointless, everything should be made easier!>okay we will make it so all you have to do is mash 1 button and your character will do autocombos>noooooooo, not like that!arguing for certain execution requirements to be removed but others to stay is just an arbitrary line you are drawing based on your mediocre level of skillwhile you find autocombos boring, someone else might find quarter circles boring. the great thing about fighting games is there are multiple characters you can play as, some of them can be simple, others can be difficult, everyone can be happy. if you don't like that a character has a certain execution requirement just don't play that character.
https://strawpoll.com/bVg8B4DV1yYvery important pollwill you play dizzy?im trying to gauge how day1 / the first weekend will look like in terms of the lobbies
>>500421596I mean I think they should be 1 button games because I believe knowing when to utilize a move in battle is more important than how the input is done. Not many agree, so the obvious answer is to make it a choice for individuals to choose like modern and classic controls.
>>500416384>literally the only populated fighting game that isn't simple input trashIt's literally that simple. I will not play your baby garbage. I don't care if it's an option, I don't care if it's technically worse. It's not a fighting game if there are single input specials, simple as.
>>500422519>make it a choice for individuals to choose like modern and classic controlsokay, but make it so they each get separate lobbies and can't play vs each other
>>500422310I'll add her to my harem of mains if she's fun to play. So far I've got A.B.A, Baiken and Ram.
>>500422298Blazblue chads, our game truely is the best
someone explain to me why people correlate the removal of extremely obtuse and uinituitive inputs with the argument that everything should be a 1-button bb-stylish style autocombo
Ky's j.s was already extremely good at catching grounded players. Can I scoop crawling Faust now? Get real degenerate with the fuzzy setups?
ummm chuddie? why are you doing combos? die
>>500422653>harem of mainsI think you meant a harem of alts?the idea of a main is that you only have 1
>>500422689because they are both arbitrary levels on the scale of "input difficulty"if you argue for one you don't like to be removed, you can't complain if someone else argues for an input you like to be removed
>>500422619Why? If you believe you're better than someone because of the controls you pick then you should be able to beat someone who presses less buttons.
Making the dedicated grappler a medium skill floor execution character was always weird.
>>500422845No, I meant a harem of mains. The rest are my alts.
>>500422689>extremely obtuse and uinituitive inputs You sound extremely transexual
>>500422950thats not how that worksyou can only have 1 main in the same way you can only have 1 wife
>>500422889I like taking a bath, but would rather you not flood my house
>>500422897because motion inputs are balancing factors. it takes time to do an input, if you can do the same move by pressing a single button you have a direct advantage over me.i believe the balancing factor of motion inputs is an important aspect of fighting games, not that i'm better for learning how to do them.
>>500423001Look, I don't really care what random strangers on the internet think so I'll just continue calling them my mains
>>500419621>Play testament>gets 5th place out of 5 and have people telling you it's fine I am now a Johnny Bravo main.
>>500423115but that is a factual misuse of the term you cant just do that you cant just be willingly wrong
>>500423196
>>500423007Why is your tub the right size? A kid might drown it
>>500423334nooooooo stopft10 me right now
>>500422689Make up your mind. Is the game supposed to challenge you or do the combos for you?
>>500423001How can one have alts if one doesn't have a main?
Does kara dead means Hammerfall fast prc potbuster is dead or extrememy reactable now?I need to know as this is the only shit that matters, Pot with 50 meter is the most carried character in the game. Pot without is unironically bottom2.
>>500422310I'll try her out but doubt I'll like her.
>>500422310Nah I’m only buying the season pass if arcsys makes Venom somewhat intellectually stimulating
>>500422310Why add like 6 options to your poll?
>>500423749Nigga just stop mashing far slash like a sped and start mashing lights. PRC buster is a meme
tranny gear
>>500424165based
>>500423394A kid might drown my bathtub? I'd be impressed if anything. I wasn't even aware my bathtub needed to breathe.
>>500424165plus soive
>>500423749He probably still slides if you do the 360 input
>>500424265drown IN
>>500424548Well obviously it'd be hard to drown out of it
>>500424548Drowned in pain, I lost my mindThere's no good or bad in there
>>500423019I'd argue it's no different than frame data and nothing to do with the controls itself. If you know your opponents has faster reactions than you, then you should be more wary on how you play.
>>500424602Now actually respond to my post calling out your dumb analogy
>>500424718Okay I have responded to your post.
>>500422773Move has been shot anon. There's no point using it as a poke the way you used to because it'll just get CH from the ground now.
>>500424602Oh, a wise guy, eh?
Was the damage cut in half? No? Does guts at least work now? No? Then it's still shit.
Drowned in soive, I lost my mind
>>500424786>no argument Concession? Smaller tubs are good?
>>500423749The change is on 6K so probably unchanged.Worse even since it has more range now lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV3C4y_ZtkE I'm not joking when I say I really do think Clayton is the most talented player of all time. This is insane. No practice, on a broken controller and he pulls this shit off like it's nothing. The gene is real.
finna stand in the kiddie pool
>>500424901I don't know where the concessions are man, try looking yourself if you want snacks so badly.
>>500424868That’s a knee slapper!
An off-season soiver, so that's me
>>500425123Oh come on man thats not even witty. Thats just stupid
>>500420021We certainly have a lot to look forward too Sinbro. I'm gonna be posting webms of what's possible when the patch drops and I hope I see what other guys do too
On my last night with you the soiver was born
https://chng.it/CdhFJBKzw6join the cause, xisters!
woke up remembering they gave millia less health this patch
Thoughts?I cannot accept Sin downplay he has now guard crush on every move, still waiting to see the stamina nerfs.I feel like Leo and ABA nerfs aren't that big but also waiting to see.Millia seem like the biggest loser. Kapel losing string with c.S is big, she can still link into 2k 2D but that's where she got cucked the most with the health change. Most characters have higher health and the moves with added damage accordingly are either S, HS and special moves, P and K reliant characters are definitely worse this patch.I'm in shock Elphelt literally got better in every possible way and her rekka is still unchanged, if she remains low tier this patch I will be sure that Elphelt players simply are garbage and lack brains.
>>500426297aba is strictly worse, her losing matchups got 10x worse and her winnings matchups got worse, the danzai buffs do not compensate losing all of her normal mode neutral.
>>500426297Leo got buffed
>>500426297How is Bedman? better? His guardcrush got nerfed in a patch where everyone got guard crush?
>>500426297You dont take into account matchups those characters had nigga. You cant really make list like that just off notes we need to see how shit will play out.
>>500426297>putting elphelt above baikennice try, dood
>>500426431now thinking about it your right, Danzai only combo off CH right? ABA is definitely big loser especially if leap cannot fraud into 2p anymore.>>500426493What does "the startup of the attack cannot be canceled into other actions". I rarely encounter Leos because only gays play him and I cannot envision the change.
>>500426297Axl is worse, Giovanna is worse, May has worse neutral, Zato is a lot better in comparison, Anji is better, Asuka is worse, Slayer is basically the same, ABA is justifiably worse
>>500426889>Anji is better,Do you even play the game, he got a meme change and got one of his important kits straight up nerfed to trash
>>500426748it means you can't cancel the first couple of startup frames into a special, which isn't something that was part of Leo's gameplay in the first place, in other words it is not a nerf
>>500426889Isn’t locking down with drills more important for Zato than May getting 1 extra startup frame to her slash buttons?
>>500426748>I rarely encounter Leos because only gays play himlet me guess, you play as a girl? you're the gay one bud
>>500426694Indeed I didn't took MUs into account because I don't play all characters. If you take MU into account it's almost impossible to say because some characters that have been buffed might become low tier because characters they struggle with got better than them.>>500426519He gained 90hp, he went from above average health to the 3rd highest in the game. That legitimately compensate any possible nerf.
>>500426297May's 5k being 7f was absolutely critical to the character being strong. Without it she's got this awkward deadzone where her fast moves are really short, and her far moves are really slow. Split mixups were already disgusting so the change is a small compensation for losing her fast long moves.
>>500426431I don't even mind the nerf, she's supposed to be ass in normal mode
To be honest I think the overall patch is goodt. someone who didn't get significant changes really
>>500427401Same. She's like mid tier at worst in regular mode right now.
>>500427316Oh yeah the health will be really impactful by being a measly +3. Scary stuff
>>500426297I think there's a case for putting Asuka in slightly better. Test Case 2 is already good, and its usability will rise quite a bit now that its worst draws are now going to be inoffensive at worst and quite strong at best. His mana regen being worse and his fire cubes not starting at 5 are notable nerfs, but I think he came out of it pretty well even if it's not a significant upgrade.
>>500426889>Axl is worseAxl players are the most entitled players in this game. They can get multiple fellatio and still complain because the girl didn't swallow. You just lost sauce motherfucker you won on everything else.>Giovanna is worseGio had 0 nerfs.>May has worse neutralMay has neutral?>Anji is betterAnji is worse and I despise this fucking homosexual with all my might and just writing that he is worse gave me an headache.>Slayer is basically the sameyes but slightly means slightly
>>500427401yeah shes suppose to be ass but not i literally cannot do anything in it, she was ALREADY ass in normal mode and that character as a whole has a really schizophrenic matchup spread, she was a pocket pick at best. if +r NM a.b.a has a better time then the character is genuinely bricked.
If Chipps c.s, 2h, 236k, j.s, land, dash, 2s, 2h, 236k combo is gone the character is fucking dead
>>500427607>Oh yeah the health will be really impactful by being a measly +3. Scary stuffHealth is a resource and having more of it matters
Zatofags get another mountain of buffs to still cryFuck you faggots forever, screeching about how good you were only to disappear the moment your character is broken giga s tier
>>500427769>Axl players are the most entitled players in this game.Yep.
>>500425875My assumption based on the notes is that we'll use Hawk Baker on close range combos, Beak Driver for f.S starter and we get more reward with raw Hoof Stomp making it something we may want to make set ups for. We'll have potentially better safe jump setups withStarter>>Beak>Beak 2>66>c.S>6K>j.S.
>all these Sin buffs with emphasis on muh stamina>eat still does fuck allLiterally just remove this move from the game if theyre not going to touch it what the fuck
So uuhhWhat happened to Nago exactly
>>500427961can u show these mountain of buffs
Been a while, loving these patch notes Not sure about no vacuum on rainwater...but whatever lol everything else is Yugely buffed :)
Rensen being charge was the only thing stopping Axl not being a plague on this game
>>500428137
>>500428208Can you read the last three patches
Axl will never be a threat when dashblocking exists.
>>500428115eat is like chipp's shuriken in the way they clearly want to make it a joke move and nothing more.
>>500426297Stun Edge Shock State frame advantage would have to be fucking insane for Ky to be better.He's quite possibly one of the most nerfed characters; Foudre loops were central to his kit and in particular his ability to convert weird stray hits into full combos. Between that and CH Eclat changes he likely doesn't have any midscreen combos unless he's doing the c.S j.D route or getting a close hit to extend with SS Vapor Thrust. On top of that he got two of his best buttons (j.S and 6H) nerfed.You can argue he deserved it but there's no shot he's better off.
>>500427803>she was ALREADY ass in normal modelollmao
>>500428747yeah she was, if u had trouble dealing with aba in NM before nothing is gonna change now cause you are just bad as a player.
>>500428498>invite hell launchHOLY SHIT
>>500428825Anon I main A.B.A
>>500428426The charge didn't stop anything though? How do you mean, it was still easy to use, that change in particular is actually confusing to me. Seems like it's just for lower floor or new to genre players or something.
>>500428536Dash block THIS
Maybe it's because I'm a paint consuming Ram main, but it's difficult to understand all these changed by just reading them.
>>500426519it remains to be seen how significant his changes are, though losing malfunction -> RRC bomb -> charged malfunction pressure does hurtbomb error could be really good if it can be used from safer distances and in midair. it might even hit directly after super wallbreak which would be excellent5H counterhit could have consistent followups with needle or spin and surely with charged wwainstall might suddenly become usable outside of meter wasting memes if it's consistent in combos and let's you do something on blockhe got a lot of fucking healthI think he is going to be better. charged malfunction really wasn't usable outside of spending meter anyway. you'll still lose sets to johnny every time.
>>500427995That's what I'm thinking as well. The writing makes me think that we can potentially combo with hawk baker without needing to use gazelle step after. We may be even able to do it midscreen which would be insane since the hawk baker followup does a ton of damage already. So you definitely are on the mark with the use of special depending on where the combo starts. I think hoof stomp might be able to convert meterless and with no need for gazelle step in the corner at the least. Could be a 2K pickup, or possibly even a 5K or c.S. That would be insane and would make actually getting hit by Sin's overhead scary beyond the normal "I have 50 meter, hold this tap dust">>500428115It does suck that eat still does basically nothing, but I still appreciate it existing. It's always something to do when you have nothing else. When I wallsplat using a normal, I can fit in an eat before I break the wall. The buff does nothing more than half the time, but it's still technically something that could be helpful. Also when I get a 2K > 2D knockdown midscreen I'll usually eat just cuz there's nothing else to do while they are down. I like eat even if it's just a glorified taunt
>NM 236k slightly nerfed>abafags losing their minds
>>500428479No I read it, I just have no idea how I'm supposed to take this crap
>>500426297Nago dooming is one of the biggest giveaways of having no idea how the game works desu. The ways that he's bullshit will change but he's going to be completely fine.I mean really, you genuinely think they are ever going to actually meaningfully nerf Nago, ever? It's been years of this, come on.
>>500428893I thought it give him bew conversions since the startup is faster?
>>500428893I mean people just don't like playing charge characters man. Even if they're really good. Now this has been changed you're going to see far more Axls
>>500428681I believe you but if the H Dp routes end up having more damage than the foudre arc routes he will simply be better.
Sajam's thoughts?
>>500429140A lot of ABA characters were in the "winning is fun" camp. That's also why the Sol players are shitting themselves in rage.
>>500429369Chipotleo Whitefang
>>500429160The thing is I am aware that the tier list will not change because the powerlevel wasn't adjusted enough and most top tiers already have so much it doesn't matter if they get one or two thing a bit worse.
>>500429369I hope my hair still looks good
>>500429229is the new fighting game meme that charge inputs are actually le bad now
New Ram seems cool might pick her up
>>500429739Yes? Charge inputs hard=ultra very bad. You like them you are super turbo corny boomer.
>>500429369>maybe the next Slam should be KOF
>>500429739No? You're looking for stuff to get angry over where nothing exists. People don't like playing charge characters. End of statement.
https://x.com/skull_duggers/status/1850055861806190910?s=46>Faust isn’t kin-ACK
>>500429140>negative>higher recovery>no combo on counter hitthey killed the move entirely>slightlyLOL
>>500429140I am so happy that move is dead. THANK YOU GOBOU
>>500429229Idk, he's still niche, and there's a lot of flashy characters to pick over axl. Bomber changes didn't cause a a huge new batch of axl mains and I don't see this doing it either. >>500429217I think that's the actual takeaway, they don't want it whiffing, which is why they made the 6k>rensen easy AF. Damage buffs on everything is nice though, Im stoked to see the difference. >>500429050They really wrote an essay on ram just to say she's easier but has to have her swords to do calav lol
>>500429993>no combo on counter hitYou don't know that though
>>500429880Why Faust and Chipp are the only characters who get to do fun shit.Everyone else is either insufferable to fight against or to play. I'd rather have fun characters than powerful characters.
>>500430152do you retards read the actually patch notes or what, it LITERALLY says that
>>500430203>do you retards readNo
>>500430203>do you retards readI proceed on vibes
>>500430203No it doesn't
>>500430203It looks like it says "reduced launch height". Which is different from "no combo on counter hit"
>>500429240They will be higher damage in a vacuum definitely but it remains to be seen what the corner carry is like. And again they're also two-step. Ky's still not a great threat on actual offense; his strengths were his ability to win right out of neutral.In general though, the foudre routes were the perfect compliment to Ky's gameplan. They're how he converted random aerial hits for one thing, be they air-to-airs or catching you backdashing, so defensive j.S play has far less value. It's also how he combos off CH 6H, and if that's gone then he's going to be in a rough spot.Additionally foudre loops had excellent corner carry which allowed him to break the wall more which is important because he's pretty meter dependent (scum dipper RC).The combo routing change is definitely worse midscreen and they said as much was their purpose. How good he is post patch comes down to the shock state projectile changes which could be nothing or could be utterly retarded.
>>500429993Still crushes f.S buttons and leads into a 50/50 mix with fRC. We also don't know if it's even punishable or just a less favorable RPS. Stop whining.
>>500430203>ESL can't readImagine my shock
>>500429229People like playing charge character zoners thoughever
>>500430648Dhalsim types and Guile types are not the same player. Axl having a charge was strange in 2024, this was a good move.
Absolute tourist that knows nothing about fighting games here, only came here because the OP pic and the only thing I know about Guilty Gear is that A.B.A looks cool (god I wish I was the key), from what I gather a lot of people are upset at an update, can I get a rundown? Also here is a pic of A.B.A
>>500430895If only axl could teleport instantly....
>>500430484>Ky is now +48 after H stun edge hits in okiIt will happen and people will seethe kekDany could win Finals from this
>>500431062Queen dizzy coming out tomorrow, big balance update. Some characters won bigly, and a bunch of frauds got kicked in the nuts
>>500431062massive patch that changes a lot of charactersABA got a small nerf to one of her specials in normal mode, and ABA players are dooming like motherfuckers
Sick of meme crush
>>500431062I'm the key actually sorry.
How strong is wild assault ATM? After the targeted nerfs and the hard knockdown removal. Having a combo extender like that at match/round start still has to be pretty good right
>nago clone launches enemy slightly higherI can't do 623 shizuriyuki because of skill issues but will the clone finally be combo-able?
>>500429841yeah man she got guard crush so now she has plenty of time to force her mixu- oh
>>500407475>imageAPLOOOPPLA
>>500431661I think it's reasonably strong for what it is. Doesn't feel game defining, but it has its uses. Also, come to think of it, I'm disappointed Deflect Shield got no buffs in the patch.
>>500431661It's gay but not as gay as it used to be.
>>500431661It's gay but you're not a fucking idiot moron for daring to actually burst ever now
>>500431062Fighting game players are always upset at everything. Don’t take their opinions seriously.Big update tomorrow with a new DLC character so lots of people will be playing. Good time to hop into the game if you’re interested.
Pots 2P being faster is crazy. RIP kara heat tackle oki though
Realistically, how strong is Elphelt with red WA in terms of conversions?
>>500431661It's still pretty strong, but it doesn't 100% define the game right now. Because of increased HP, walls will break more which increases burst gen for the attacker. More people will generate tons of burst like big bodies have. It's probably gonna be used more.
>>500432396El had top tier conversions and carry even when she was unusable tier bad what do you think, you don't even need WA
>>500431241>>500431371>>500431498Ah, alright people seething about nerfs I understand I'm a dirty Revenantoid from Warframe and I know I will seethe about a nerf to him eventually>Queen dizzy coming out tomorrowNo clue who is that, I only know about A.B.A, the bag head man that fingers assholes as a special move and the weird flat lady with the talking scythe
>>500432345I'm afraid "increased startup" means exactly the opposite of what you're thinking
>>500429050Might be able to do more conversions into dauro -> bnb nowYou can't just chuck out swords and Calvados anymore, it seems like swords is only for the corner nowErarlumo dash cancels goneI think it's a wash desu
>>500432574>I'm a dirty Revenantoid from Warframe and I know I will seethe about a nerf to him eventually>implying revenant will ever get nerfedt. part-time revenantfag
>>500431062ABA is a character who is supposed to be very slow and stuck in the mud in normal mode, but extremely strong when she goes into her powered up mode. At higher levels this wasn't really true in practice due to a particular special move that gave her strong advancing pressure. The move has been made probably very slightly weaker, but in ways that curb its usefulness heavily.tl;dr character's being made to work how she's supposed to and frauds are mad
>>500432574>weird flat lady with a scytheThat’s Testament. He was always a dude in previous games but Strive turned him into a they/them nonbinary monstrosity for no apparent reason. You got his pronouns wrong so expect a bunch of screeching trannies to descend on you now.
>>500408767I thought Gio would be higher considering her tension passive buff
>>500432854>That’s Testament. He was always a dude in previous games but Strive turned him into a they/them nonbinary monstrosity for no apparent reason.We all know the reason why they/them at Arc System Works did it.
>>500432854wrongTestament is an elegant woman because my cock said soI will not give any complain to the warframe anon
>p p p p specialYo this punish game is SIIIIICK
>>500407475Rev 2 lobby is up.Name: gilly gear.Password: no pass.Lobby connection req: 2 or greater.Hosted in: NA west coast.
>>500433185we do play this gold
>>500431178We can only hope.Really the question I think is if he can get to be plus after a reasonably spaced fireball (god forbid). If you're in shockstate and he can c.S>2S>5H>fireball or whatever and actually come out slightly advantageous he could have significantly better offense by virtue of being able to control and trap you in the corner in a relatively safe fashion. That'd lend additional value to the H DP SS routes too.It felt Arcsys was trying and failing to push Ky in that direction for fucking years until WA hijacked the character and they had to stop buffing him so I wouldn't be surprised.
>>500432717Brother they will nerf him some day, as they did with wukang>>500432854>Its a manBruh what? I only saw the character in a youtube video with A.B.A and I just assumed the Scythe was the one talking to the key and the character was a mute loli hag
>>500420049KOF shouldn't have removed the pretzels either but here we are.
>>500433138>special special normal 6 hit comboYo dawg thats so sick dude lets go bro guilty gear so hot lgbt plus on block hehe
>>500432631Damn I gonna miss being able to beat Johnny’s far slash at roundstart with that
finna guard crush
>>500432396Probably a bit stronger on some bomb oki with momentum. f.S/2S will create a 3f gap (goodbye 3f startup normals) that will lead into a 2f gap for rekka. Her conversions were fine, probably made better with rekka dash. You'll see it occasionally in conversions just to launch with 2H.
>>500432854>always a dude in previous games Testament has been a freak that transcended gender since missing link. Thats like the whole plot of that game. Arcsys put him in both female and male polls before Strive
>chubby burka disney princess with narwhal specialssoive dizzy is so lame. who is this for?
>>500433295>the Scythe was the one talking to the key and the character was a mute loli hagvery funny concept actually
>>500433830who the fuck cares about how she looks, she is just NOT dizzy in gameplay what so ever, not even in fucking eHP
>>500433830I find her design cuter but the gameplay looks lame
If Pot somehow ends up top tier after this, how will the Pot mafia turn this around tokeep downplaying him?
>>500433830she's made for me.
>>500434297>he still thinks it's about tier placementsgrappler players literally do not fucking care where the grappler is placed, they are sick individuals that play grapplers because they find them fun. they are complaining about losing their fun stuff
this move was already an annoying as fuck antiair, why would they make it even better?
>everyone other than bedman gets their hp increased by 5%>everyones damage gets increased (imagine my shock if its a roughly 5% increase) >WHOAH ITS TOTALLY NOT A 2 INTERACTION GAME ANYMORE GUYSsoivers...
Grapplers play them because they want easy wins. It’s not because le epic big man. If Bridget was the dedicated low execution kill you with one move character they’d be on him.
>>500434560not every stray hit is equal, nor converts equally
>>500434574Absolutely mindbroken by throws holy shit. Bet your ass can’t do a single kbmf lol. What makes it think you think you work harder despite playing a character with better mobility?
>>500434834Don’t get your panties in a twist now
>>500434834>Bet your ass can’t do a single kbmf loland you won't be able to do them either lmao
>>500434574unless a grappler is super fucking retarded they largely do not get easy wins, especially in anime games, even pot in +r with how broken he is still doesn't get easy wins because the rest of the cast is even more retarded. grappler players just like playing grapplers, the same way setplay players like playing setplay. if anything it's only shotos that think like this because they have all the tools at their disposal
Ninjabros thoughts on patch or am I the only one who played chipp?
Dizzy will be the zoner Testament wishes he was.
>>500432678Actually swords was more of a corner thing anyway, it's more like if you throw swords in the corner your damage on wallbreak is a bit less
>>500434894>no rebuttal Wipe your tears, sis. It’s embarrasing. Whatever helps you cope I guess
My only wish in life is that before I die I get the chance to murder a potnigger with my own hands
>>500435186it's crazy how similar those two characters are in soive, especially compared to how unique they were in the previous games, soive really is an uninspired mess
>>500435167Tightrope could be good. 5P nerf is retarded because he’s not allowed to be top tier for some reason.
>>500435186>the maiden of the grove surpassing her protectorkino but i'm coping nonetheless as a Testfag
>>500434832soivefetus, youre literally playing the only fighting game in existence which has a mechanic that lets you cancel every single move into a low-gravity highly vertical launcher with 0 horizontal scaling
>>500435167I stopped playing him when Oscar came out but the tightrope looks fun. I'd say he's the big winner of the patch just on the basis of how much more fun he'll be to play, whether he'll be much better or not.
>>500434832im glad you are describing +r and xrd but this is strive sir, the game is too rigid for that kind of flexibility
finna kara card toss
>>500434834>low IQ grapplerfraud instantly triggeredKek, cry more lazy ass. >"You don't work harder just because you have to actually use your buttons and do combos and play the game!!" Lil bro, just own being a glue eater. being a coping bitch about it is pathetic>>500435060Lmaoooo
>>500435328Noble wish
imagine admitting that you consistently lose neutral against pot bwahahaha
>>500436378Can't relate
>>500434832They've been mind broken by SF6 where every single hit is identical don't mind them.
>>500434528They're making 6Ps behave more universally across the board.
>>500434528They removed his 6P active frames thoughbeit
Did HC get buffed or nerfed?
>>500437374You can interact with clone on screen now so expect mass suicides.
>>500437374They literally removed scapegoat
>>500437374S3 HC relied a bunch on scapegoat with the concentration nerfs depending on the MU. 5D gunshot is still in the game though
>>500437374hes nerfed
>>500437374clone got erased from the game but now his sweep, j2k and gun are better
>>500437374HC doesn't deal much damage and the only damage increase he got is to fire with all other characters having better health which he barely got any.HC is definitely worse but that doesn't change his cancerous gameplay.
I wonder if you can still hand of doom PRC super to give it invul at the start
>>500411632Whats the point of buffs if they just make a character more boring? Same goes with nerfs as well. Buffs and nerfs should be tasteful to try and preserve as much uniqueness about the character.Every game would benefit from this mindset rather than just stripping away a skill ceiling and collapsing the skill floor.
>wins major tournament once because the player is actually mad good>she gets shit in the update where everyone else gets new crazy optionsfrom here on we're only going downhill i guess
>>500439041Hey I know you think it's your job to spout retarded shit, but you really don't have to. Both your and my life would be better for it.
>>500439041Japs actually think shes strong so no crazy changes. Only Nitro got to show everyone that Jack-O was good. Eddventure did too once
Gonna get home tomorrow, put on “Get Over Nightmares” and TOD niggas with security bars
After reading the Potemkin patch notes I have come to the determination that Katano needs to kill himself NOW
>>500439453did you forget about the evo japan upsets?
>>500438997No one plays the game, and it's competing with sleep fighter 6 and the upcoming Garou 2: modern boogaloo. Wild assault made the game more autistic and shitty and drove everyone away and now they need to hard course correct or it's dead forever.
>>500439639Lmao no u
>>500427769>May has neutral You're an idiot lol
>>500439639he's made pot as strong as he was in beta + reparations.nobody can contest him now that he wears a jewel that saps daisuke's life force away, and enhances his neck in exchange.
>>500428571tightrope will let chipp use shuriken on oki without killing himself in the process. trust the plan.
People talk about muh kara inputs but ignore that you get the benefits without kara frame tax
>>500440451roundstart buster without kara sounds funny as shit
>>500440451>the reward missing the point its about enjoying the ride
Hope the mega fist hurtbox nerf is meaningful. So sick of Potfags thinking their defense is nice because of that shit.
>>500440128>Actually my top tier character with Slayer damage is badI block all Mays since launch and will keep on doing it, you are bad AND carried.
>>500439041Welcome to the era of patches. It was never fair.
>>500439041>character won only because the player is mad good You wouldn’t say this cope about his DBFZ team though
Remember when they shot Millia and Bedman in the face for no reason while Johnny and Slayer got off scot free and they decided to make Baiken as cancer as she was in the old games even though they had already rightfully removed that shit when she came to Strive?What was that all about?
>Despite buffing most other Potemkin moves they nerfed Garuda to the fucking groundHoly fucking GOD thank you lord almighty for removing the most boring ass RPS in the entire game. Potemkin players claiming they're fun to play against despite having the same fucking gameplan of garuda loops from 1000 to 2k elo since launch is a fucking treachery.
I am so confused why is everyone saying some variation of>[My character] is nerfed while [All other characters I dont play] are buffed.
>>500441341While the 236H pressure nerf hurts I’m waiting to see how cracked the bomb error has become after using 236H as a combo ender
>>500441913It's called downplaying lil soivah
>>500442065but why, daisuke doesnt read the thread
>>500441913brain damage, I'm looking forward to playing new sin though, I wonder how big the tyrant rave dmg buff is
How many hours until the patch
>>500442201It's not about enacting change, it's about letting everyone know the reason you'll be losing this patch is because your character was unfairly maligned while everyone else's was unreasonably buffed.
>>500442201katano does though
>>500441913If everyone's complaining their character got nerfed then it's a good patch.
All the characters i play got buffed
>>500442201I’m spiritually aligned with Katano. You wouldn’t get it
>>500442248who is this guy? I see his face sometimes but I can't put my finger on itis he the guy that threw his leverless into the audience which slammed some fat dude in the face and permanently blinded him in one of his eyes?
>>500442547What
>>500442347Bout 12 for offline.14 till we online.
>>500442468Same
>>500438412uhm incel how dare you imply that slayer has an invisible reversal, it doesnt use a dp input so its not a reversal. hes balanced by having bottom 3 defense
So wait, rin now HKD's for a butterfly oki situation?
>>500442723It is a (bad) reversal but it's not a DP. Not sure why some people (morons) have trouble understanding this.
>>500426297>MayShe's dead
biggest winner of this patch now that the dust has settled?
>>500443049Baiken, Johnny or Pot lolMaybe Slayer just by virtue of having very little changed.
>>500442547On the off chance you're actually asking, that's diaphone in the pic lol Does anyone have the clip that this anon is talking about tho?
>>500442248Why Diaphone has the french flag behind him?
>>500443049The biggest winners are the people who don't play this kusoge
>>500443217It was pride month
>>500442723Do you you get off on being stupid? S3 hand of doom sucks. End of story. Next time respond to my post like a normal person
>>500443217visual gag, because he also just got bred on stream
>main got a slight nerf and a slight buff>my 2 alts got big buffsI like this patch
>>500408325fpbp
>>500443049johnny, welcome to rev2
diaphone is suspiciously handsome
>>500443417He is an average man, but he is white.
>>500443416It's not Rev2 until he becomes the best character in the game, then gets buffed in the next two patches.
What do I think about the patch?
>>500443621is good
>>500442687I'm looking at Hotashi laughing at Axl's patch notes right now ( 30:44 )
I hope more pros pick up Johnny. His oki is less interactable than Goldlewis and he has way bettter to boot. Sick of these fags downplaying because MFC is minus
>>500442201They probably do I know some gacha devs read /vg/. It’s included in their social observation team or whatever you call it.
>>500443597Correct, which means most strive players, including myself, would line up to rim his asshole
>>500443621Effectively dead with the K and S button nerfs. She didn't need more damage.
>>500443837i've been telling people johnny is good since before the dash buff, strive players are just bad and look where that got them
>>500443621Don't think. Stroke.
>>500443049Chipp
>>500443837Mistu finah... berry berry risky...
>>500443049Ramlethal will unironically win a major before the next patch
>>500443905based. i recently sucked 9 incher white cock. it was amazing.
>>500443803Hotashi is a fraudulent fat nigger, I have watched him dodge matches in celestial with my own avatar in real time (when people still played this game)
>>500443958Abhorrent
>>500443837*he has way better neutral
>>500444125that nigger somehow was stuck in plat in slime rusher 6. I know people talk shit a lot about people being one trick ponies and carried but if there is someone like that then it is hotashi.
I'm switching to ram
>>500443979-15 is my favorite Strive meme
>>500443837Johnny just does his thing. He never was bad hes one of those characters that are well rounded just with their core design and to make them bad you would need to completly fucking destroy them very directly on purpose.
>>500444252he is LITERALLY a tier whore through and through
>revolver nerf>6s nerf>bringer nerf>5k nerf>fafnir nerf>nrv nerfAt least he got buffed in training mode
>>500444252uh he got Masters, chud
>>500441341>What was that all about?Millia and Bedmen aren't men, Slayer and Johnny are men. Simple as that
>>500444024Nice congrats man
>>500443954I feel like there was a prevalent Johnny doomposter group since his addition that were claiming he will become broken at some point.I should invested more in the anti-johnny cabal, I might have got some shitter impressions of that.
>>500443417i'm more handsome than him. I look like slayer irl
>>500407475hnghhh holy fuck more
>>500444965Ngl Id probably drink your piss, even though I'm married.
>>500444937im not trying to be anti johnny, i just genuinely think strive players are fundementally bad at fighting games so they think a character with strong normals, some of the best mixups in the game, great damage and pressure is somehow bad. it was genuinely mind boggling to me that they think this nigga somehow just turned good because of a dash speed buff.
>>500444252he's been draining his balls inside razzo for years and as we all know gamer power is stored in the balls so now razzo has all his skill
>slime figher 6 shit boring and ugly>tekken 8 shit and boring>kof 15 ugly and dead>cotw ugly and dead>granpoo boring and dead>2xko vaporware and bad for nowguess it's strive for another year AT LEAST
>>500445173I put soive down and played sfv and kof for a while, and when I came back my inputs were so fucking clean, this game is fun as fuck but will make you BAD at fightans in general.
>i'm more handsome than him. I look like slayer irl
>>500445258I like all of those games except KoF. Also 2XKO and CotW because I haven't tried them yet.
>>500445347>Stick legsThat's slayer alright
>>500445347kek
>>500445173The increased CH level of mist finer was also huge. Backstep K finer actually has reward now. The dash buffs also help with oki.
>never lab>only complain on twitter>arcsys actually listens>make an already good character one of the best in the game nowhttps://youtu.be/7O3MSiUKa3k
>>500445258>slime figher 6 shit boring and uglyIt's boring but it's reasonably balanced, and personally I don't think it's ugly. >tekken 8 shit and boringTru >kof 15 ugly and deadTru>cotw ugly and deadLol? Lmao? It is ugly but I it could be fun >granpoo boring and deadRest in pieces>2xko vaporware and bad for nowIt will stay bad >guess it's strive for another year Shit sucks
>>500445683>it's reasonably balancedLol. >personally I don't think it's ugly.It's fucking garbage how we barely have any costumes
>>500445667Did Johnny even get anything significant besides shitting on Testament and Goldlewis harder?
>>500446036No. Ensenga got damage buff and thats it he got least amount of changes in this patch
How are we feeling, Goldbros?
>>500446036he got the least amount of changes character wise, but he's going to benefit from the system/wanting more interaction changes the most, this is an already neutral heavy whiff punishing god that got ch buffs last patch. this is going to sky rocket him.
>>500446036i dont think you guys understand that everyone getting blowback nerfs and johnny getting non is the biggest buff to him this patch.
>>500445258Strive is also boring and dead thoughever
>>500446242Blessed. Can’t wait to do the new churn routes.
>>500445792The balance is better than most fighting games, and definitely better than strive for its entire lifespan so far. You can crack top 64 at evo with any character. Top 16 probably not.
>>500446036Johnny dodge this patch in the most Johnny possible by simply almost not being changed at all. He just got away with better getting more health and dodging the nerfs of all other top tiers.
>>500446908If he had a meterless reversal he’d actually be top tier right now
>>500446880This is true but the it's because every character has the same win con and pressure with slime rushing. Also I must say that SF players are the biggest fgc whiners not even close. I've never seen a tweet from a top sf player that wasn't complaining about the game.
skyfish (hold ok)
>>500446990mist finer stance will become a frame 1 parry anytime now
>>500446990Does he need one? 2P is mediocre but can get piss easy HKD, great backdash and fS is the perfect button to mash after FDing or deflect shield
>>500446990he doesn't need one he's already top tier, you guys put too much weight on having a meterless reversal in fighting games.
>>500447657we're talking about game with dogshit defensive options and explosive damage anon
>>500447760and you still put too much emphasis on the game for not having a meterless reversal like HC didn't exist. johnny is already top tier even more so with this patch and he doesn't have one.
>>500407475I immediately knew who the artist is this image was when I saw the feetHow over is it?
>>500447657kysisssy spotted
>>500447904You are so cooked bro frfr
>>500447178They are the loud majority lol.
>Game is still button button special
>>500447998actually i'm an aba and johnny player, i just play characters with no reversals in every other fighting game.
>2 fish
>>500448181they buffed Millia’s air routes ;)
>>500447657Meterless reversals are always broken. The difference between having and not having one is always massive.
>>500446242It stinks all the other security gauge moves have to suffer the sins of drone and I'm surprised Down with the System didn't get the damage buff some other overdrives got but I like the changes. They essentially gave every Behemoth different routing on meterburn which is really kino and the skyfish change is intuitive.
>>500448497structure your defense better little nigga
>>500448385aislop
>>500448631Easy for a Johnny fraud to say.
>>500448701Are you fucking retarded?
>>500442248it's just to make it be roughly the same after the universal defense buffs
>>500448743you mean the character without a meterless reversal
It's been one fish since you looked at me
>>500448920it's literally ai slop, nigger kek
thank YOU Katano, everyone really missed +R Baiken gameplay
>>50044911593% of characters dont have a meterless reversal
>>500449187It's not even close
>>500449187t. has never played +r
>>500448631It makes you be able to beat so many things without difficulty. You don’t need real defense if you have a dp.
Anything resembling +R is a problem
>>500449187Nobody hates +R Baiken more than me, but this isn't even close to that. It's a good thing Baiken is getting something unique defensively, it's something she should have had from the start.
>>500449065fuck, right
>>500449169the ingame screenshot is aislop? soive really is soulless
>>500449327structure your offense better little nigga, to this day i still play characters without reversals and i never once complained about meterless dps, bitch made complaints.
>>500449115Johnny’s offense, bro. Jesus
>>500445258>granpoo boring and deadPost hours
Baiken is in the game?
>>500449442It's either that or the animators have no clue what hands are supposed to look like
>>500449442this general really is full of retards if you honestly can't tell that it's ai and somehow mistake THAT for an in game screenshot, god damn.
Do bridget fans really believe that a man will become a woman just by saying so?
>>500449718you already posted this, shartynigger
>>500449678damn that sucks that the devs used ai to animate dizzy in soive
>>500449442She doesn’t have a corset and her flowers are different ingame
>>500449442thats not an ingame screenshot or at least has been tampered with you retard
>>500449718Go fuck yourself.
at least we don't have NRS tier balance and character roster......oh wait we have now
i wish dizzy did have a corset
>>500449972Projectiles are worse now though. S2 was peak NRS
So Dizzy's gameplay is practically the same as before as in she shits out zoning tools to catch you slipping and fuck your face close-by when she does, right
>>500449874and she doesnt have at thumb and there are billion smooth particles and hazy symbols everywhere
>>500449718>same bait as yesterday*yawn*, chuddies lost btw
>>500450117>So Dizzy's gameplay is practically the same as beforenot even close
>>500450117yes but without the double airdash and with only half a bubble (RIP)
It took me 4 seasons to censor Dizzy, I lost one million loyal fansThat's about soooooooooooooooooooooive
>>500450117>So [Strive char] gameplay is practically the same as beforelol lmao
Potemkin got Strive'd... In StriveI know this general doesn't play fighting games but for anyone that does, here's some news: The latest patch removed Kara 6K specials from potemkin. Basically removing every little bit of skill that the character had. In return they had to make an absolute abomination of changes just to make his specials work without it, and it doesn't seem like every special got something good in return (heat knuckle for example).https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2340/#p06
>>500450230>>500450302You can have the same or similar macro gameplan with different tools
This is your game now.This is what the developers think a move that was PERFECTLY FINE BEFORE should be nowThis is the level of quality you can expect from your patches.
we're getting raided by kappachino, huh?
Potemkin got Soive'd... in Soive
Call me when they inevitably add more properties to differentiate the fish
>>500450373>gameplay>gameplanwhich are we talking about again? i'm confused
>>500449972Man I don't even know what you'd mean by that? NRS balance has gone between so many flavors of bullshit. Combo into restand into 50/50. Projectile characters that make SHMUPS look like a fucking joke. That time they tried to make a game with neutral, but the community hated it so much they just added a neutral skip to everyone. The flagrant outclassing of base roster characters. Near infinite blockstun characters
>>500450515>That time they tried to make a game with neutral, but the community hated itwhich game was this
>>500450420arcsys does it again
>>500450591The one before this, which was slow as shit and still had random ass teleports so you needed a guard button
>>500450117>So Dizzy's gameplay is practically the same as beforeyoure genuinely retarded
>>500450591MK11 then Jacqui Briggs happened
kappachino malding omegakekeroo
>Click on cute girl vtuber>Nasally male voiceSuffering...
So they buffed Happy Chaos beng but nerfed clone, the fun move? Really niggers? How about toning down that roll or curse ball?
Sir, the 6th Anji rework has hit the tower
>>500451004Clone was by far the most egregiously fucked up part of his kit and if you don't agree then you are probably an HC player.
>>500450938Who
>>500451242Just in general. Tired of these freaks baiting straight men with their delusions. I want to hang out with a GIRL
>>500451153I play him on the side, I know he's fucked up. I take way more issue with getting crossed up from the juiced roll into a wallbreak
>>500451153Hold on there's still 5D shot and whiff shot
>>500451004yeah clone's probably a dead move now unless it's against pot or some low mobility character. shame
Regardless of what happens I will keep gooning to Elphelt getting blacked. Potemkin main btw
So did Bridget get buffed? I remember him being trash/gimmick
>>500451750Absolutely devilish pronoun usage my friend!
>>500451750GO FUCKYOURSELF FUCKING CHUDFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU
>>500451796YWNBAW.
>>500451750They specifically said he got the smallest damage adjustment in a patch where everyone had damage increased to compensate for higher defense multipliers because he's not allowed to do damage.
>>500451750Unless the rolling movement change turns out to have some nasty mixups he's low tier now. Before he was alright. An annoying mid tier.
>>500451750Why are you like this? Bridget is a woman.
>>500451750NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>500450306its over
yall lost btw, Daisuke confirmed Bridget is female.
Patch notes dropped and we’re still talking about Bridget. Amazing.
>>500450306We've talked about that last thread. It's sad. But also I stopped playing Strive and went to Xrd so I don't really care.
>>500451012Why is it when anyone else has a move property altered it's a change but when it's Anji he's been reworked?
>>500452576daisuke is a liar
>>500451750I didnt saw pepe attached to based post in years at this point but here I am,witnessing.
>>500450306I wish they gave him a clean hit gimmick to compensate like Sol instead of making 2K 9 frames
>>500451750wow, just wow sir, be better.
SoWhen is the patch?
>>500452653Nigga we talked about it THIS thread lmao.
Nago's whole thing in the story mode is that he can see weak points... so why didn't they give him a clean hit mechanic? We don't even see him struggling with blood or bloodrage at all in the story, why is that his main thing? And how does it even relate to special canceling specials?
>>500449487I don’t like having to think okay
i really really like this bruschetta rendition. Would play zyx if zyx looked like that. The hoodie is boringu
Hehe brisket :3
>>5004530308:00-10 AM CST which is less than 12 hours from now if you don’t understand how to convert timezones
>>500426297are you fucking RETARDED? faust is not better you clown monkey faust is the biggest loser of this patch besides potemkin he was already bottom 5 and got ZERO meaningful buffs and only a nerf to one of his only good tools.
>>500453232then just start with that RETARD
Is there an explanation for why they hate Millia so much?
>>500453298in 12 hours from now it will be 3:30AM CST
Dear EU tower Baikens,I will not accept a match against you Sincerly,A nigga thats wants to have fun
>>500453284Which game is this from? probably not canon.BTW, Daisuke confirmed Brisket being a girl, so it doesnt matter what past games say.
>>500453724That is a screenshot from the Guilty Gear Strive in-game glossary before Bridget was released.
>>500453714But what purpose do they have for brainwashing Bridget and turning him trans, what grand plan could there be? Infiltrating the US?
>>500453498*CEST I mispoke. Also it starts at 9AM so still 12 hours from now
>>500453865>That is a screenshot from the Guilty Gear Strive in-game glossary before Bridget was released.Ok so? its outdated
>>500453926You can't change genders. You are either born with XX chromosomes or XY chromosomes. Nothing can change that.
>>500453449Rude.
>>500454006You can't see chromosomes. If my Bridget girlfriend says she's a woman, she is. Nothing can change that.
>>500428891And you are ass with her.
>>500453328Lmao the sheer downplay of Faust players. Never afrair of the cardinal sin of greed aren't they.
>>500454313Yeah dude I say that 2+2 equals 10 so people around me better believe that claim. Amerimutts deserve nuclear holocaust.
>>500452647It's a sharty raid. Report and ignore.
why cant we have a thread without chuds ruining it?
>people are saying Elphelt is actually good nowI don't believe anyone. I NEED her to be bad so I can blame my losses on her being low tier and not the fact I spam braindead rekka pressure.
>>500454653Just find a Gothic Ephelt skin and gain a 10% to your winrate
>>500453190>And how does it even relate to special canceling specials?Vampires are known for their preternatural speed. Nago is using vampire powers to chain his specials together, but whenever he does that it reminds him of his bloodthirst.
bridget a few years from now
>>500454550Is hitting afro and shooting trumpet behind you that much better than divekick nerfs
>>500454653Her bad super is now her good super. And she will get better oki in the corner off of her rekka finisher. Pretty minor changes compared to a lot of other characters. Ultimately we'll have to see how it all shakes out, she might have more good matchups due to other characters' changes.
>>500454830Can you please fuck off back to /vpol/ ?
>>500455173calm down trooncel its just some corny picture by some spic
I dearly hope next thread the fucking chuds leave and we can discuss gameplay.
>>500452713Its just a joke about Arcsys’ flipflopping his strong suit.>Fuujin, the crux of Anji's offense
2 fishdiscuss
>>500455637Go fish.
>>5004556372 hitsdiscuss
Imagine being new to Strive, picking Anji and finding out his overhead can’t be roman canceled for whatever reason.
>>500455637Seem pretty annoying they don't disappear in the corner and can bite backwards.
Gonna be honest with you guys, even if Bridget and Testament are fucking woke degenerate shit, I will still fap to them and play them cause they re hot
>>500455637Why does Dizzy get fish scapegoat when real scapegoat doesn't even work anymore
i prefer zsh
>>500426297I don't really see how the Johnny change is any more than slightly better. It only gives him even better matchups against characters he already had good matchups against. And even then, the projectile nulling mist finer is only going to be relevant when you're fullscreen wasting time. Maybe he'll be able to play timeout faggotry against his good MUs?Giovanna losing guard crush on her e236K is pretty big. Sure she gets more speed and damage from holding 50/100 meter, but none of her moves say "increased damage" like almost every other character is getting, so it probably comes out even - and that's from holding meter rather than spending it. Her other buffs are nice but probably only just make up for no guardcrush Trovao.
>>500455910Feels random as fuck
>>500455910new anjis only use meter to spam his counter super dude
>>5004556372 fish4 frames6 ___?
Bridget is my toy and I make him call himself a girl as a form of sexual dominance.
>>500456482Me and the homies are the town inside him frfr
>>500453284>groomed to be a girl based on retarded superstition>wants to prove him being born a boy isn't a curse>fails to prove that>reverts to being a trannyIt reads like a tragedy actually
>>500456114Idk why they didn’t make the base scaling like 10%. Breaking the rules for a fast overhead is confusing
>>500456482Goldlewis-sama…
>>500456710Bridget's entire character arc is that you shouldn't try to be anything but what your parents tell you you are. It's shocking trannies like that so much.
Neu threadu
>>500456710Your lack of reading comprehension is a tragedyhttps://files.catbox.moe/cydmmd.mp4
Bridget is one of the gays that just says gurllll and calls everyone sis and refers to his tight ass as his pussy and I love him for that
>>500457181strive "combo" videos looks so fucking ass lol its like watching same combo over and over and over.
>>500457181Is this from the beta?
One fist inside Bridget the other fist around his package
>>500457181Ay man don’t involve Pot into this shit
I hope the next patch changes May's Dolphins to QCF and DP inputs so I can play her.
>>500456710>>500456994Testament would more logically be the idolHe just went like "are you a girl or a boy?""I'm Testament"
>>500457296Button button special rc button special super is fun tho
>new to game>want to play>15mins in queue>dodged 4 times because im playing axl>come here to whine>see op picyeah im thinking its refund time
>>500457181>Your lack of reading comprehension is a tragedyummmm... not an argument, sweaty
>>500457320That is just S3 Pot combo theory unless you’re meming
>>500454965J.2k is an absolute retarded move which allow Faust players to play the most air campy gameplan imaginable, it eats most antiair and somehow gets insane reward for barely any risk.This shit only got slightly more recovery and is definitely not punishable.Everything else you got were buffs, fun shit and more player expression, the fact you even complain is baffling and give such a faggot image to faust players which are relatively chill it's imaginable.I hope there aren't more fag acting like you on character discord crying about having 2f more recov for a broken move.
>>500457503>>15mins in queueThats not normal
>>500457503>>500457503>im playing axlAnother based newbie scared away by the strive playerbase I don't blame you but if you do keep it, our stocks just went up with the patch notes
>>500457181Why did Arcsys decide that the most unique aspect of Potemkin, the reason you would main him and makes him stand out from the rest of the cast in a positive way, was worth tossing out? No other Grappler abused Kara cancels in the way Strive Potemkin did and now that unique extreme is dead in the water to appease... Who? Casuals? They dont play Potemkin because he's too fundamentally hard. These changes wouldnt fix that
>accent corebutton button special button special button special>xrdbutton button special rc dust jk dust jk dust jk dust jk dust jk>strivebutton button special rc button jk dust speciali don't see the problem
>>500457670there's only 4 people in my lobby, with crossplay.is this seriously what im limited to?
>>500457762what region
>>500457296Get some new eyes nigga. That is kbmf kinography
TLDR on the patch?
>>500457823usai got a match and i already lost lel
>>500457928holy KEK is this real
>>500457928most of them are probably dead you shouldn't post this
>>500457716For me it's more like:button button special button button button button specialbutton special special button special button special specialbutton button special special special special special special
>>500457928HAHHAHAHAHA
>>500457762just went to check on euit's 22:15 on a wednesday so the playercount should be in a dip or nearing its lowest>2 open parks filled>57 players on F10seems good to me
>>500457762If you're doing floor lobbies, aggressively approach and spam at a cabinet lol Park is better, but you'll get stomped by higher level players for sure. This general hosts lobbies, unlike other fightan generals, but unironically you should find a community.In a major city? Attend locals. Your learning will accelerate exponentially.
>>500457928Umisho is a bigger embarrassment than these literal who
>>500457690is potemkin a bad matchup for axl?i'm new but i feel like i can't do anything at all
>>500440924You can't be serious lol.
>>500458208>This general hosts lobbies, unlike other fightan generalsnigga the only person who hosts shit is that XRD dude lol.
>>500457928lmao
Jam Cloudberry
>go to ggg to discuss the most outrageous balance patch yet>3 year streak bitching about BridgetHOWHow can someone be this obsessedIs this literally doodlingkitsune? I dont know anyone else who would be this fucking crazed over a fight they lost forever ago
>>500457986Buffs, buffs, ram can't laser without swords lol, pot doesn't have to Kara cancel anymore, and axl doesn't have to charge rensen anymore. Minor nerfs, no global mechanic changes. Just look up your character and your best and worst MUs
Guilty Gear Strive Nintendo Switch Edition will include the game’s current roster of 28 characters, even those that were previously included in the last three season passes. That’s a huge amount of content right out of the box and means that you can play as the likes of Bridget, Elphelt, A.B.A and more at not additional cost.
>>500457928How can Trannistan continue existing when they have a negative 41% birth rate
>>500457762If you’re new you should go to floor 8 or 9. The training mode queue can put you in empty floors when ranking up or down
>>500427974nah thats anjifags honestly
>>500458395you're a bigger retard for wanting to discuss Strive balance after year 1
making fun of potniggers and they are mad af AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
No but like really, how does KOF managed to get a sane community even after being such a niche game in a niche genre
>>500458593Do you also reheat your food like this, you lazy slob?
>>500458345It's the classic dhalsim zangief, it's good for axl but you can't just stand there. Crouch block his slam, and abuse j.s (the diagonal down sickle) from afar. 5p and 2p and 2H and low rank pots will cry everytim
>>500458442>pot doesn't have to Kara cancel anymore
>>500458497i'm getting farmed in floor 5 so idk. not having fun.not going to blog but i didn't expect the grappler to have an armored fullscreen dash, might play something else
>>500458593> even after being such a niche game in a niche genrethey don't care about other games, you already answered yourself
>>500458395Shut the fuck up tranny nobody asked
>>500458363I spoke like I've been around, I came back today bc of the patch notes. I've been playing other games lmao, but we did used to have lobbies every thread.
>>500458395This little faggot got this site in a chokehold. It’s sad
>>500457353Don't even say this
>>500458762based
>>500458693>you can block people from the loss screennvm based going to play for another hour
>>500458849That stopped long ass time ago.
>>500458593i dont get the fantasy flag shitbeing transexual isn't a nationthere is no trans-only tournament either so you can't "represent the spanish community" because you won in a tournament that takes place in spain>yea I fight for america>yea I fight for germany>yea I fight for the concept of food, yumyum hungryyyy
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can a real nigga make an OP?
>>500459041you didn't even change the fucking patch
>>500459041thanks!
>no patch notes in the OP
>>500458693Jump, jH. Jump, air dash back and j.s>snail Use your Faultless defense, backdash his command grabs, rainwater is based also since it jumps you backwards. Just some good options, you have a lot against him.
>>500459502thank youi am trying really hard, i like axl a lot. i just hate everyone else so much.
>>500459208what did you get it early or something?
>>500458693His dash is punishable on block and can be grabbed during it. 2k/5k 2d for a hardknockdown
>>500455604>someone discusses the game>you freak out over the pronouns they usedbridget is male
>>500451750He has shifted down to low-tier after being a gassed up mid tier because everyone else is now either hitting harder or got other kinds of buffs, and his placement is unaffected by the few characters that got nerfed.
>>500458395If Bridget getting called "he" is enough to do freak you out this much, you should probably just log off.
>potemkin got soified...in soiveis there anything funnier?
>>500464571the existence of the game itself?
