Your Enemy Lane Edition>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-29-2024-update.42985/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked:>>500385391
>>500457389you get more accurate results if you look at a larger sample of games all at once instead of adjusting MMR after every single matchit's embarrassing you can't figure this out
>>500459804just works after using proton experimental>>500460378maybe if they didn't use ubunga it'd work for them
>>500460378>>500459804>>500460724hello linux anonsthe fact that the games crosshair isnt static was pissing me offand i saw some streamers were using external crosshairs (that are of course windows only)so i made a mangohud config that functions as a crosshair overlayshould i post
>>500460724>maybe if they didn't use ubunga it'd work for themis there a known issue with it or something? I'm pretty sure he uses mint
wild how some games just end up like this
paradox counters both snipers and mcguiness btw =)
>>500461009debian based distros arent good for gaming reallypackages too old so shit doesnt work / runs worsearch based distros are bettersteamOS is based on arch aswell and now works directly with valveso arch is practically gaben approved
If you solo-queue into standard matches, you hate yourself.You will be at the mercy of some 2-5 stack and if they're losing they WILL blame YOU instead of their feeding friends. And of course the enemy team's stack will be much better and more coordinated than yours.Just do literally anything else while waiting for ranked hours.
>>500460369Perfect for aimlets. I've always thought that stuns are a necessary evil in this game since even good players will have low accuracy on enemies mad dashing all over the place, but maybe a magnetize item could accomplish the same effect without completely locking someone down and stopping them from doing anything else. It would just make it easier to hit evasive targets.
>>500460724>>500460378thanks anons im making the jump over to linuxgive me 30 mins and ill let you know if deadlock works well or not l(using mint)
>>500461006i guess if you want i never notice anything with the crosshair>>500461009try having him uninstalling the game, proton, and the folders for them and try reinstalling both
https://files.catbox.moe/qaqgii.mp4KINO
>>500461450make sure you have anything you want backed up or installing it on a second hard drive
>>500453086>mirage is one of the most broken characters at the moment other than grey talon or maybe vindicta - actual pro playermeanwhile oracle rank shitters in dlg:>VINDICTA IS... LE BAD
>>500461652should have kept Kino prime instead of deadlock
>>500461424Stuns are necessary because they're how you lock down and destroy a high-priority target.
>>500461652Looks like indie landfill trash. Valve had a great signature sci-fi style and this shit is not it.You guys aren't ready for the real kino
>>500462324>lanes not color coded
>>500461652Looks like dog but I like to replay the part where v1 Haze flashes her soles at the camera over and over
How do Vindicta players think that they're anything but carried right now? This bitch does unreasonable amounts of damage too far away.
>>500461652What the fuck is this Warden
>>500461042there is nothing wrong with the matchmaking system!
>>500461652Is Vindicta seriously just barefoot because Hornet was an insect monster and they wanted to reuse the rig?
>>500461042>some
>>500461042reminder that if the enemy team was salty enough they could just agree to report you and get you banned from ranked for a week lol lmao. only takes 3 reports.
>>500463296Barefoot characters don't just happen, anon. They knew exactly what they were doing.
>>500463294I mean rankwise it wasn't THAT bad even with the four unrankeds (though the Wraith was pretty ass)It's just that sometimes nothing works out for some lineups>>500463448Stomps like these are like one in 100 from my experience
>kill Wraith farming aggressively in our jungle>pick up 1k she drops>enough souls to afford Curse>jump on Haze split pushing>cancel ult and kill herDamn, this guy will never know his teammate was the reason I was able to kill him
LIFTING
outhouse time?
>>500464569IN HERE, I AM KING
>>500461652Honestly hope they polish some of these models up and release them as skins.
>>500464758They will pull the skeleton king with current placeholder bebop
It really bothers me there's no way to see all the stats you get from crates and slot machines
how do you build plapadox now?
>>500465153same as always
>>500464981Nah, bebops model is completely fine outside of a few details. iirc art used for the visual novel thing shows bebop exactly the same except here's wearing patchy brown pants instead of random samurai shit
>have around 50 games, just unlocked ranked>invite a friend of mine>he plays three normal games with me>he does okay in two of them and goes 20/3/15 in the last one>suddenly there's a message that there's a big skill gap between us and we can't queue anymore>it's him for sure because I can play with other 5 friends (with similar total games than the new friend) without problem what is this shit? why can't we even play normal games? there aren't even enough games to decide if he's good or not
>>500465153can go nade build, gun/swap all-rounder build or a heavy melee cancel build
Signs you're in a low mmr match>No one grabs or tries to contest bridge buffs
>>500459675Wraith dps is way higher than vindicta though. Vindicta has average dps and make up for it with her range. >>500462094I would say mirage is slightly stronger than vindicta. Vindicta is good now, but not really broken. There are like 4 gun centric characters: talon, vindicta, wraith, and haze (and infernus if you count him) and all except haze are good but all also serve somewhat similiar role. Is that really "bad" balance other than haze being worse than others. Deathy video usually highlight what is the change in meta, not what are the most broken characters. Other roles still have extremely strong characters that are crucial in a their respective role. Every team will keeps needing frontline and support characters to have a balanced and well rounded team.
>>500464587would be pretty nice. i'd join.
>>500464587watch how hard i can piss
>>500465819Oopps I forgot mirage as well for some reason as a gun character. But yeah, almost gun characters are good now, and vindicta is good but is among middle of the pack among those gun characters
inhouseSurely, I won't go 0/n/y this time.S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9
>>500466479don't feel like getting my shit kicked in sorry
>>500466479stop lying
>>500466568just join winning team
Am I retarded, how do I make an account for the official forums?
>>500464569*runs away*
>>500466785in game main page there's description how to make forum account
>>500461042>"I'll take 'What happens when every lane loses?", Alex!"
>>500466785press the button on the main menu in gameyes this is unintuitive
>>500461781deadlock runs worse its over....(i need to upgrade my cpu)
>>500466874>>500466951Thanks.
>>500466568>don't feel like getting my shit kicked in sorrySee, it's not about getting knocked down, it's about getting knocked down, getting back up again, and making it someone else's problem to the point that even though they won, they still feel like they lost.Also something something self-improvement, giving up is for girls, and triumphing through adversity
Building Dynamo around his 1 is hilarious but kinda gimmicky
>>500467171I've not seen anyone really improve even though there's like 5 or so people who regularly play in it.
>get to play hero labs for the first time>dont get any of the new heroes>people that do get the new heroes go 1-15 and leave 20 mins in>repeat this until hero labs closeswhy is trying out new shit time gated again?
>>500467171i'm bored anyway so fuck it
>>500467281>I've not seen anyone really improve even though there's like 5 or so people who regularly play in it.I got better at Viscious ball to the point where I could make team fights a terrible prospect.My Miku is a work-in-progress, but I think I'm close to a breakthrough from proper itemization, macro play, and teleporter use.It's hard to track everyone else, but I'm sure other people have gotten better at some builds, one of you bastards has been using Melee Ivy and It's messed with my head.
>>500467171Won all my ranked placements last week, so I’ll join to get knocked down a peg
>goes 0/12 in your laneHow do you respond?
>>500467186Less gimmicky than gun Dynamo tbqhwuf.
>>500466479Need six(6) more patron-loving goons to get their wish grantedS9MR9S9MR9S9MR9Me? I'm wishing for immortality.
>goes 1/2/26 in your gameHow do you reward her?
>>500468000put on that bunny suit you slut
>>500468253with anal sex of course
>>500468301vindicta's winrate would go up if she looked like this.
>>500468301I wish there was more vindictia art of her looking like the future outlet for all of Shiv's pent up fatherly instincts.
S9MR92-3 more
>>500468956Wraith?
>>500468956>59kblud hit even his own objectives kek
>>500468134Need 3 more for inhouse.S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9
>>500468956shiv
>>500468956Calico
stopinvitingfriendsthatneverplayedamobabeforeyoudumbniggerfaggot
>>500469494ah yes lets watch the game die out instead, good idea anon
>>500468794>fatherly instinctsVindicta looks like perfect domestic abuse victim, that's true
>>500469494invite who? nobody on my friends list plays this game
first time mo
nevermind im shitting
>>500469595Vindicta had a hard life
>>500470118*pauses* sorry gotta pee
S9MR9get in or get fucked
>not even 12 people play deadlockit's joever
>>500470338>join inhouse>bunch of spergs arguing except the skill disparity is even larger than pugs>retards always take their shitflinging into the thread afterits unironically worse than pubbing
>entire team pushes 1 (one) lane and takes the walker in the first 3 minutes (and probably a base guardian)Explain why this wouldn't work
>>500469494Any new invites nowdays are new russian accounts testing out cheats.
>>500470512>they just take all of your T1s
>>500470783>they just try to group up while creeps take the remaining t1sftfy
inhouse S9MR9S9MR9S9MR99/12Please join, I want to kill you sooo bad.
>>500470197>>500470338I'm making coffee right now. I'll be there as soon as I can.
>>500470512need atleast one hero protecting other lanes while the other 5 chucklefuck the lane togetherwhat hero would be best to be the guy farming the whole map solo is the question
>>500471093Miku
Solo queue in ranked unironically forces people to be better at the game on an individual level
>>5004705121 guy just staying behind the tower shooting creeps will significantly delay your 3 minute benchmarkdoing this strat puts your team on a timer because every second that passes your enemy team's net worth just overtakes yours massively
The ranked mode in this game is so fucking retarded that it has made me lose all faith in the devs. It's like they tried to create the worst ranked system possible and succeeded.I'm not playing this shit anymore
>>500470512>>500471093disclaimer: its still retarded but would be funny>>500471187wouldnt miku be the best at being one of the 5 retards mega pushing thoughperson protecting needs to be fast enough to maybe actually save the guardians as best as possible
>>500471290ranked is currently the best way to play the game thoughbeit
>>500471290skillet spotted
>>500470512>>500471310let's do this in hero labs party today
surely there's at least 3 more retards to join the inhouse and play...S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9S9MR93 spots left
>>500470471>losewho cares>stompat least you can hear "good" players like meppz and big hat seething
>>5004714785 retards pushing far lane:mikubebop (abuse tower hugger)geist (annoying grenade)vindicta/grey talon (annoying)dynamo (extra healing so they dont have to leave)all of them buy monster roundskelvin being guy trying to save the map as best as he can (can heal himself; clear waves quick with nade; fast with ice path)probably rushes healing rite and sprint boots for speed
>>500470512You realize they have damage reduction at the start of the game, anon? I would be surprised if you could even take a walker in 3 minutes, and you would still be behind if you did.
two more
>>500471436>>500471459>rank and mmr only updates once a week>ranking is affected by how other people perform in games you aren't a part of>your stats matter more than W/L>-25% playerbase in 2 weekshuge success
Need two more clowns to finish the inhouse circusS9MR9S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9(10/12)
>>500471839guardians have damage reduction too and i've still managed to kill them fast in 1-2 waves
>TWO
>coffee: aquired>inhouse: joinedITS SANDING TIME
1MORE
>>500472147If coffee man joined, SURELY you can? S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9S9MR9
>>500472126>>rank and mmr only updates once a weekThis is good>>ranking is affected by how other people perform in games you aren't a part ofWe don't know how the rank is calculated and literally every game works this way. There is no team game that is purely based on individual score>>your stats matter more than W/LYou just contradicted yourself>>-25% playerbase in 2 weeksIrrelevant to your complaint about ranks/v/ is across the hall buddy
ONE
>>500472394nope, cooking dinner.
>>500472126>>rank and mmr only updates once a week>>ranking is affected by how other people perform in games you aren't a part ofboth good things>>your stats matter more than W/Lthere is no evidence for this, it's your own personal schizo headcanon>>-25% playerbase in 2 weeksthere are no skinnerbox mechanics in the game yet retard
where's the tripfag when you need xer?
which side is going to win?
heres my yamato power slash build. there are many like it, but this one is mine
Is the OutHouse full?
>>500472396>>500472506>delayed satisfaction is a le good thingyes gamers love delayed satisfaction, it's what video games are built on. I love grinding than being timegated from any progress or results. Your MMR should change after every match.>literally every heckin game does thatwith a normal MMR players are judged on their past performance directly against others, in deadlock players are judged on the future performance of the players they played against, it's completely retarded for no benefits>no no no you're just a schizo >y-y-you contradicted yourselfhow do you explain shit like this >>500465329 then? It's obvious they are looking at your stats. faggot redditors.>there are no skinnerbox mechanics in the game yet retardthis ranked mode is the opposite of a skinner box, lmao.
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>McGinnis: Mini Turrets Spirit Resist reduced from 80% to 70%>McGinnis: Spectral Wall cooldown increased from 37s to 46s>McGinnis: Spectral Wall T2 cooldown improved from -14s to -23smfw not gonna stop me
paradox is such a cute dork with the time jokes
The sheer amount of back and forth balancing in this game is fucking hilarious and I'd have so much more respect if they just admitted that some characters in it are concept-level failures (McGinnis, Vindicta, Wraith) that are never fun to play or play against unless you're extremely thrilled by objectively low-effort, low-interaction characters
>>500474847>The sheer amount of back and forth balancing in this game isbecause its in its public ALPHA
>>500474847You forgot talon, honestly worst than pre nerf shiv at this point. Doesn't need to invest in healing because he can just avoid everything with spirit movespeed and stamina. Used knockdown on him? lol too bad hes fucking gone already.
>>500474847>Vindicta>WraithNot even top 5 in the unbalanced cancer department>Dynamo>Infernus>M&K>MirageAll still exist
>>500474847Honestly they should throw in the towel on balancing anything other than the most egregious right now until they have more heroes.I could see new characters changing interactions and balancing without that is dumb.
Alright I'm sick of waiting for the late game to see which team throws harderUsually play Ivy and Haze, but I'm thinking of pivoting to more early map active heroes like Lash and Pocket
>>500474714Haze is a interdimensional glownigger not a literal nigger
>>500474224explain shit like WHAT you colossal retard? two people having different MMRs that grow at different rates because they get different amounts from each game?
>>500474847It feels like they overcorrect and overchange on heroes that are mostly weak like yamato and bebop but never actually do jackshit on the perma broken bullshit that is FUNDAMENTALLY fucked and needs ability reworks.Shit like Lash, Infernus, Shiv, Wraith, McGinnis, Dynamo, Kelvin, etc.These fucking heroes just do everything and excel at everything, they abuse every item and make it seem broken 4 out of 5 patches because the heroes themselves are fucking retarded and their kit is fundamentally fucked and they ALWAYS GET NERFED AND NOTHING CHANGES BECAUSE IT'S LIMP DICKED NERFS.Or even worse, they fucking BUFF THEM for no reason like mo and krill or Mirage.Instead of addressing this, they nerf items that would not be an issue otherwise and then these heroes just move onto the next fucked up build because they can abuse everything and make that seem broken, while heroes that relied on those nerfed items are now even worse.This is BY FAR the biggest issue with the balancing right now, bite the fucking bullet and address shit like bloodletting that shouldn't have fucking made it past the concept stage.
what do i do when laning against yamato? they just do tons of damage and press all their buttons on me, and i cant even punish them cause of the ultimate. feels like a character for tards
haze mvp!
meppz melty
thanks for rejuv
meppz washed up
haze i want to have sex with you
match end.
mcginnis... why did you just leave the rejuv room...
Meppz had it out for me all gameggs though
>>500478090mikuguinness decided to play it cahefu
>>500478083well damn world x destroyer and meppz went crazy and still lost
did i heya hoya good
>>500478191>gray talonYou didn't win the match
>>500478083>time2kms>17 deathskek
>>500478191cyru u played well lad.
>>500478191his name is chief prepping bull
>>500478191i wouldn't have gone in and ult if you weren't up for rejuv, so probably.
>>500478090because soul is retarded?
Mirage teamkilled me with ricochet in the haze ult as I am standing outside the edge of it to do damage to her LOL
>>500478037That would imply he was ever good. He was never good and will never be good.
>>500478263sadly looks like the inhouse is dead now
>>500478083i am an animalt. shiv
>>500478083I don't think I've ever seen a Kelvin lose an inhouse.
>>500478396match was too long, no more strength for another one
If Kelvin was removed from the game, what sector of society would suffer?
>>500478248We run it down
>>500478396Post the fucking code
>>500478037>>500478373meppz is alright. we would've ended way sooner if anyone else was playing lasht. haze>>500478396ranked is up. that's probably why>>500478473>>500478524i prefer kevin being strong over any of the other supportive picks.
How do i get better at hooking?
>>500478524me
meppz where is the streamable link of where the game went wrong in your mindi crave meppz post game analysis
>>500478731when people trolled in the haze ult at rejuv, if people just press metal skin or get out of the circle, nobody dies theret. infernus
WHERES THE INHOUSE
>>500479013S9MR9
>>500479116It's over...
>go 10/5 one match>go 3/10 next>go 10/5 one match>go 3/10 nextthe only forced 50/50 i can't beat is my own
>>500474847>was only interested in deadcock cause of Ivy>like the weakest link atm due to all the build nerfs and her shitty laning phase meaning you have to do 2x the amount of effort>games only fun when you abuse the current meta picks which have extremely boring playstyles to meimpressive really
>>500478083Still need to work on Macro, I made too many knee-jerk decisions and died for it like trying to defend blue by coming up behind the enemy team, which is never a good idea as Miku and pushing lane, assuming people already pushing lane would be right behind me.It was MUCH easier securing kills with Heroic Aura + Fleetfoot + Escalating Damage(whatever that gun item is called), but aside from that, the real advantage felt like farming happened much faster late.Fumbled mid twice which lost us the game. First time I should've just stood in the center and parried, the second time I should've had knockdown for Haze ult(not sure if she had unstoppable by that point, but with Kelvin/talon/haze/Ivy that should've been a no-brainer.) >>500478090Haze was ulting, so I was trying to get out of range of that(it covered the whole floor) and then my plan was to drop a wall to box her out. I screwed up, no two ways about that.>>500478191I was very angry about you in lane and then didn't think about you the rest of the game so yeah, I think so.
>>500478668>supportive pickshow do I stop dying to his "supportive" billion damage grenades?
>>500479239>love ivy, would wife immediately and die by stone crotch to face>cannot play her in ranked because the lack of ability to delete someone means that you rely on your team to follow up>spirit resist scaling on troopers means she gets worse as the game goes on>play her in normals and throw teammates into fights for giggles tho
>>500477648She's both actually.
Wards when
Is it possible to get custom matches ids post-match?I wanna see what I did wrong in mid. t. Miku
>>500479296I popped unstoppable before ulting. I also cancelled early to parry paradox and steal the rejuv. Whole bunch of mistakes that fight.>>500479470he's supportive because he can roam the map incredibly quickly and sooner than most other heroes and doesn't need that high of an income to function. support doesn't (and shouldn't) mean weak pushover.
>>500479686You need to just remember what matchid was there in game to look it up after. If you saved any clips you'd see it on that.
Bebop and Lash should have unique assist lines for each other instead of generic ones where they say "good job" and shitLike Lash going "I'm still better than you." or Bebop saying "That was MY kill, you just helped.", some shit like that
>>50047968625688652
>>500479470>buy improved spirit armor>he just freezes you while his entire team fits their cocks inside your assgg
>>500478668>supportive pick>runs in from the air at 500 mph>nukes me and perma slows me>if I somehow survive this because the kelvin can't aim for shit, just presses his gay baby jail button and completely cock blocks everyone while healing harder than anyoneThere's zero fucking reason why this nigger faggot hero can just do everything while shitting up damage.To put shit into perspective, this insane game changing ult at all stages of the game lasts way longer than yamato's ult
Please Allah (Abdul Ismael) butcher Kelvin to be early October Talon tier
>>500478731Maybe when our fucking team had rejuv stolen both fucking times???
>>500480320you sure
>>500480320should've parried lol
>>500480170>curse
90% of high mmr games are decided by some faggot calling to force a mid fight and then the entire team getting disjointed and split up around the mid building and losing the fight then the game lol
>>500460213played vs this as abrhams and mo/krill
>>500479686I don't even think you did anything that bad in mid, I trolled by standing too close to mirage who trolled by standing in the circle of death.Only thing you coulda done differently was lock her out when she went to the far side (the side mirage and I were at) that way we woulda gotten the rejuv and you and paradox would have lived.
>>500480456Does curse even stops ice path?And it doesn't stop the regen or the dome once deployed
>dlg went from having melty about Vindicta and Talon to having melty about Kelvin
>>500481029I rightfully seethed about Kelvin all the way back in /v/ threads
>>500481029i'll leave a melty inside your asshole if you catch my drift
>>500481029Wow it's like there's MORE than 1 giga broken retarded hero that's crazy who would've known
list of heroes i'd have a melty inside of:ivyhazeplapadoxvindicta (both consensually and otherwise)haze forma bunnyhaze forma franceyamato
>>500481479bring back bnuyy haze
>>500481479For me, it's new model yamato.I don't want to see any of you waifufags bandwagoning this hero once she gets the new model, if you don't have at least 300 games on her you're out nigga.
>play one game of ranked as bebop>vindicta and seven lane opponentsyep not winning this one
>>500481697i want the uni outfit one
>>500481654>>500481479furries OUT
>>500481270Kelvin was nerfed every single patch since game dropped
>>500481851And still not enough
>>500481479paradox (female) makes me cum. i wish he was female instead
>>500481786but i NEEEED
>>500480754I...don't actually know
>>500481654id be fine if she came back as a skin, but I hope her design gets reused for a hero. i hope she plays similar to haze. i love playing haze, probably far more than any hero/champ/toon/whatever i've played in any other game before. the last time i've been this fixated on a character was genji in overwatch>>500481786we will get v1 haze and dogadox and you will like it!
>>500481781Only good as a skin or something, sure as fuck not the regular model.It's not gonna happen anyways because the new voice basically confirms the first one or a variation of it.
>>500481961i meant pocket* fuck
Hero labs party soon?
>>500482254i think pocket would genuinely have a haze tier pick rate if he was a she instead.
>>500481786What about Paradogx >>500468253, is she OK
>>500482489FURRIES OUT
dont know why id waste my time in ranked when mcginnis needs a hotfix nerf. get rid of the fucking wall.
>>500482405yeah, i'm down. i'll be playing vanilla heroes so you guys can get the cool new heroes like last time.>>500482489she's gonna be the first arcana released. also paradog sounds a lot better than dogadox.>>500482701furry gamefurry companyfurry statefurry coast
>>500482803>i'll be playing vanilla heroes so you guys can get the cool new heroesbased
>>500482489>Dog>ProtogenI know the creator of the species and she'd have a fit
>>500482717>complaining about mikupenis when every game has a vindicta talon
>>500482874>white trash mmr cant buy let alone convince his team to buy knockdown
>>500482874Miku has higher winrate than both
lmao fortitude is so fucking good you should all be building it
>>500482847Protogens were created by a biofem?
>>500483494Yeah, local ausfag, she's real nice too
>>500479296an advice i would give as a miku only player is to place your walls properly. usually when rejuv is going down i look at the left side and place a wall diagonally to cover two entrances. if you placed it right, not only do u get to hit the rejuv, u get to live and potentially kill haze during that skirmish.i don't know if you're playing miku because she's op right now or because you like the hero, but if you want you can just pick a lane to push and observe the minimap. i feel like itll teach you how to rat properly because it forces the enemy team to play around you
>>500483567>she's real nice tooThat's not what I've heard.
>>500483838I've personally never had a problem with her, but I can assume it's people butting heads over some of the way she handles things
>>500482405>>500482803>>500482840Where
7WHQ1created a party code for any hero lab enjoyers.
>>500483949It's possible I'm confusing with some other big name furry, maybe the Sergal guy?I'm not a furry, I just poke my head in to point and laugh at drama from time to time, but I swear I've heard shit about someone regarding a very prominent "closed species."
Here's the first Rejuv failure:https://streamable.com/7v9y2eI got the wall/stun, but swung too early on the heavy melee. Should've just gone in and parriedAnd here's the second:https://streamable.com/ddn1wrThe problem is that instead of popping heroic aura and holding my cursor over the haze's head, I threw a turret(that died instantly to her ult), put up a wall(that did nothing), and then dived to try and get the rejuv with a melee(which I could've gotten if I instead used fleetfoot and parried).Also, lol, notice that someone actually did cast knockdown on the Haze while she had unstoppable. Good on them.>>500483773Thanks for the advice. Didn't think about placing walls diagonally in mid.I'm getting a little better at ratting, during this game I got the outer walkers(allbeit with a hiccup death each, one of which could have been prevented if I had just asked Mirage to group with me).>i don't know if you're playing miku because she's op right now or because you like the heroI didn't know, just needed a new character to play after I finished fifty games as Viscious. I'm pretty bad with her, but I think it's because of the areas of the game I'm weak at or don't understand well, so I'm playing her now to improve overall.
>>500484218Oh, Primagens, yeah that's the main pain-point regarding that particular creatorIt annoyed me at first as well, but it's whatever, she saw an opportunity to make money and people paid for it, more power to her
>>500484193>>500484210i'm gonna have to leave real quick so I can load up haze ult in sandbox. brb.
Wait for this guy >>500484476
>>500484476>>500484562nvrmind there's quite a few people here already. i'll probably stutter and lag a bit beginning of the game.
>>500484361ima let you niggas on another little secret damn i cant keep giving them away but once the big boss is killed just count the 6 musical notes it has that will make it easier for you to steal parry and secure it
>>500484378I just don't understand why furries are willing to pay $1200 for permission to draw an OC.But I'd probably take advantage of that, too.
>>500484728It's basically owning the rights to the character, and she was ahead of the NFT game with it desuIt's also so they can get suits, art, and a big shiny "Look at me I'm so special" recognition, so, you know, she made bank from it and still does lmao
>>500484984>It's basically owning the rights to the characterSure, but you can't own the idea of a furry with robot ears and a raptor stance. You're paying for something that's already public domain.It is a lot like NFTs, now that you mention it...
Finally got my first good game with lash11/4/12He really does need that early lead don't he
>>500484714what if im listening to music while playing the game
>>500485149They who hold the power and reputation get to dictate what is acceptableIt's a moral consensus that people just don't create one, otherwise those who bought it will kick up a stink, and the person who didn't pay will get dog-piled and not in the way they want and effectively shunned out of the fandom entirely lmaoYou're right though, there is literally nothing stopping you doing it, just like there's nothing stopping people not accepting it
I fuckin suck ass at facing abrahms in solo lane fuckin hate that guyI feel like im peaking at oracle 4
>>500485306lmao if you are blasting music then forget about it but if your music is not that loud then you should be still able to hear the 6 musical notes/dings
>>500485509So glad I don't have this stupid fucking fetish. Furries are really good at being insufferable.
>>500485535rush debuff reducer in those ranks i doubt they are going to get duration extender so its a free parry all the time and shove lanes against him dont let him decide the pace of the game he isnt the best solo laner anymore
>>500485781You're on 4chan, anonWe're all fucking insufferableI was insufferable BEFORE I was a furry, but also it's the weebs hating weebs thing, but with animal costumes
>every week the first few matches they give me in ranked have people that don't or barely talk, never group up, and die all the timeWhy do they do this to me.
>>500485863>We're all fucking insufferableFurries are worse. As a furry, you should know this.But it's not like the "adoptable" thing is unique to furries, and I hate it in all its forms.
>>500485964I agree that furries in general are definitely worseThough it's not as bad down here, because of our small population we're a much more close-knit group so it all feels more comfortable and easier to deal with bullshitI will never, ever, go to a USA convention, those things look like suffering and are a status symbol to be able to attend lmaoOne of the only good things about the furry fandom is that it's extremely inclusive for people all across the spectrum, sexualities, identities etc, and super sex positiveUnless you're a biofem, then you're shit outta luck because all the gays are misogynistic
>>5004843612nd one is partially on your paradox, she should have placed that wall much earlier right on rejun spot and basically would let one person just punch rejun safely from on side even if haze ult.You could have simply wall to separate haze on the other side of the rejun and lock her out of the rejun instead of trying to stun
>>500485828Unfortunately, they do rush duration extender. Anyway I'm probably overreacting, last 2 split I only lost 1 game and now i have lost 3 out of 5.
This game is genuinely miserable currently
>>500486257Do you know about Carpet Samples?You might rethink your opinions on sex positivity when you read about him.
>>500486382Apologize.
>>500486382Paradox downplayer sisters.....
>>500486485>Rightfully nerf Shiv (should have reworked him instead but whatever)>Decide to buff M&K, Mirage, and Mcginnis who are all already good / OPThe devs must not play their own game
>>500486436Of course, but therein lays the problem, the outside perception is biased because of the worst examples. That's just sheer, unrestrained autism with no social cues. There's times and places to discuss it all, but randomly to people you don't know, while also wearing one of the worst looking and smelling suits ever just ain't itIt's because the fandom is this inclusive that this happens a lot, because nobody wants to try and teach the worst offenders how they SHOULD act because they either don't want to be a cunt, or to be associated with the offender
>>500485863furries are are trash because the whole fandom exist to groom kids and to erp with other retards on discordthe worst offense is that all the furry suits and art just looks bad
Is bullet resist shredder worth it if I have shit like intensifying magazine and point blank?t. Gun Warden, usually the slot is taken up by cooldown reduction for more 3s
>>500486827I don't care about the other things I just hate their dumb suits and how they smell
>>500486895Yes. It's a must have in every gun build. What else are you putting in purple slot??
>>500486348reactive barrier then so if he charges you it's not always a free kill
>>500486895cheap as fuck and it gives melee resistance imo think it's worth easily.
>>500486998that why i said>the worst offense is that all the furry suits and art just looks bad
>>500486895Ask yourself if -12% bullet resist is good.
>>500486742>It's because the fandom is this inclusive that this happens a lotWell, yeah, exactly. If you create a community that's "sex positive," where no one's allowed to call anyone out for being a deranged pervert in public spaces, you're not JUST going to get gays and inflation fetishists.It's the same problem infinity chan had where it was supposed to be a free speech site, but in practice was a pedo/neo-nazi site, because when you don't have any rules you're really just going to attract the people who are too socially retarded to hide their power levels in polite society.
Is Warden the only thrown AOE that doesn't need a confirmation click?>>500486827>Pup hoodEvery time, get that shit outta my conspacesThere's like, 4 generations of suit maker in that photo alone, not including the home-made one or the Kemono in the middle>>500486998>smellI am so glad I've only ever come across 1 suit that ever smelt bad desu. We just don't tolerate it down here, and seeing as they're such a fuckin investment, people wash em properly and anyone who fucks in a suit then walks around public spaces in it gets called the fuck out>>500486895>gives spirit, increasing your fire rate>makes your many, many bullets per second cause even more damageBruh
>>500486382tanks should not do damage. i dont fucking understand why mnk can build full purple and decimate me
>>500487070Slow hex, duration on 4, cooldown on 3 and QSROnce I get flex slots maybe BSR, but I usually flood those with more gun items
>>500486895Warden benefits immensely from cooldown so probably not
>>500486382Looks like another mo and krill buff is on the horizon
>>500487392we cant stop winning mo chads
Fuck it, I'm just gonna play Mirage until the next patch.
>>500487234I know its not bad, but Im weighing duration/cooldown items for my abilities as an opportunity cost
>>500487248That's basically what the fandom is, yeahLike I said, down here we're small enough to be able to handle shit like this, and not afraid to confront eachother because we're ausfags, but I can imagine that in the US it's EXTREMELY different, and because the people you're arguing against can't process rationally, meltdowns happen, media gets involved, rep gets even worse etcThe fandom didn't start out sex-positive, but it naturally ended up that way because of all the autistic horny gays congregating in one spot
Seven is only good for early game. Past that he is fucking useless
>>500487492Sad state of things but I don't blame you. Every game I lose is because people are just abusing what is meta, I'm so tired of it.
>>500487268allfurrysuitslookbadits just shit taste
>>500487608he is useless in the early game, what are you talking about
Saga here give me like 3 mins before queueing please
>>500487682I can say that about anything, anon. Cars, waifus, opinions, etcDon't spend money or braincells on things you don't enjoyWhich means you should probably stop playing Deadlock lmao
we somehow won with just one new hero
>>500487732No you are just fucking bad. He is very good early.
>>500487608he just feels useless all around but i cant stop using him
>>50048784930k obj dmg is insane
It's funny because the meta abusers are generally the most low IQ apelike players you'll encounter, something I noticed for example is pre nerf Shiv players would constantly just try to fight me in lane, dive when it was objectively retarded to do so, ignore minions, etc then after the nerf the same shit happens but they die like dogs in front of me. If we get blessed enough to see some nerfs to especially cancerous characters (Mcginnis for example) pay attention and you'll probably notice it too. Metaslaves are truly braindead faggots.
post hero labs party code
>>500487849>"save us kali">30k obj damage>>500487993>>500484210
leave queue pls
>>500487268>Is Warden the only thrown AOE that doesn't need a confirmation click?Viscous 1 doesn't need one, it functions similar to Warden's
>>500487825>can say that about anything, anon. Cars, waifus, opinions, etcno you cantits different BECAUSE UNLIKE OPINIONS WHERE THERE'S BAD OR GOOD OPINIONS OR CAR OR WAIFUS ALL FURRY SHIT IS BADthere is not is single good lookin suit
>>500488149True>imagining wardens flask bouncing multiple timesHorrifying
>>500487849Yamato vs magician is actually FUCKED upAll he needs is duration extender and I basically have to deal with a mo n krill ult whenever I get close but better because he gets to do whatever he wants.He fucking heavy meleed me three times during the hex what the fuck
>>500488226I'm not having this argument with you, anon, you're just going to remain irrational and stick to your own worldviewHave a good night
STOP THE QUE I WANT OT JOIN
>>500488357we're full but I'll bounce for you.
>>500488425uhh thanks
>>500487628Like I'm sick and tired of trying to keep playing Shiv because he's fun only to find out that he can't fucking do anything anymore because he is incapable of building up rage against NPC's. It doesn't matter if you out farm your lane opponent, kill them, and take their guardian, if your team isn't also doing well then you can just go and fuck yourself in the ass because if your team isn't on top of things you're never killing anyone ever again because your damage is 1/3rd of what it used to be since you can't maintain rage without your team dominating in team fights. I just become a punching bag for the enemies CC abilities.No, I should just play Mirage and do 3x as much damage without needing to manage a rage bar.Speaking oft, does anyone think that alchemical fire Shiv might be good since you can throw it at the enemy team to build up rage?
STOP SPAMMING US WITH POP UPS YOU NIGGER
one is no one readying up
>>500488663im readied up
>>5004887794 people are not ready READY UP RETARDS
>>500488819YEAH RETARDS READY UP
>>500481786furries IN
>>500488226agreed, suits are trashhmofa is godly though
Post merk musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un3NkWnHl9Q
>melee pocket>40% damage amp if you land all of the barrage + all that melee itemsChat am I cooking?
FORCED 50 MIKU ONLY WORLD X DESTORYERPROFILE NAME READY THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>>500489073melee literally only works against people who build zero slows and never parry
>>500489276but like *teleports behind you* *heavy melees your neck*unreactable no?
>>500489149ok fuck you guys then
>>500489379https://youtu.be/QVpfRdgFXk8?t=72Predictable at times
>>500489379Bro, they literally can see your slow ass giant ghost coat floating aroundPocket is usually already extremely vulnerable when he is trying to barrage.
>>500489149WE ARE IN A MATCH
STOP THE QUE
>>500489512that video gave me a mixup idea>cloak>heavy melee>fleetfoot cancel>teleport (optional)>heavy melee footsies
>>500489781>QUEyou mean queue
>>500489760oh that explains it
>>500489845que?
>>500489845No, he means que, because he's clearly a retard that can't speak english
>>500489845im charging ahead into to the future and changing words for the better
>>500490056I'm going to shove an aloominum dildo up your ass
they fixed holiday stomp and shes now better than pre nerf slork because the stun has no cooldown at all.
OH MY GOD STOP TRYING TO QUEUE
>>500462921>vindicta one trick>i'm either carried or killing my mmr by playing someone nerfed into the groundyeah fuck off
>>500490403I play both vindicta and Yamato the most and /dlg/ attitudea over both of these characters are hilariousI just picked up paradox recently too and I feel that deja vu feeling again
>>500490403There's far more egregious heroes currently people in this general just bitch about Talon and Vindicta the most because a lot of people here are in a perpetual state of seethe / paranoia over shooter mains playing Deadlock
>>500490247Literally just jump lmao
shiv should do a sliding forward kick for his heavy melee
BRO WHY DID WE HAVE VEGAS ON OUR TEAM AND PLAYING AGAINST BUDS?
2 slots open7WHQ1
>>500490820Holding left click is le...GOOD
holy fuck viper is so fucking broken
>>500490998was that vegas? he had some moonrunes
>>500490791>I just picked up paradox recently too and I feel that deja vu feeling againThe holy trinity of heroes for mmr inflated niggers thinking they're special because they play a "hard" hero
>>500491053yeah check vod https://www.twitch.tv/vegashttps://www.twitch.tv/buds
7WHQ17WHQ17WHQ1HERO LABS
>>500491156>800 people saw me get raped liveACK
>>500491156i got raped by the wraith. eternus players are a different breed
>>5004911941 SLOT7WHQ17WHQ1
>>500490247too bad her set of abilities aren't practical in any serious environment
>my parafeeding was broadcasted to the whole worldit's over. genuinely over.
>>500490247if you jump it pretty much invalidates the stun>>500491354this basically, she needs an ability that actually benefits her kit not the weird lazy as fuck 3 she hasshe's basically an ult bot
>Pockets satchel instantly finishes a reload but it doesn't say it anywhere
>>500491689Yeah, it's weird that they don't
Do you think Yoshi fantasizes about removing all the movement tech so this game finally becomes Dota with guns
>>500491689do you have to start a reload first or does it just reload by itself
>>500492139you have to start it firstit's weird jank and probably a bug
>>500491445How do you know your game was broadcast?
>>500492434weird
>>500492139Start a reload, use it and cancel it immediately>>500492041Yeah it's fuckin weird and explains a lot about the trades I've been having with Pockets
>>500491156>vegas playing inhouseno way
is kelvin better with the nade spam build? or with the beam build
>>500492625best kelvin build is grenade support
>>500491445both of them were streaming.>>500492529Meppz but actually good at the game, geg.
>world's only feeding abrams on my team>built no resistancesi don't understand
>>500492529 we got them in hero labs matchmaking
>>500492625you're supposed to build rescue beam regardless
>>500492850fuck meant to quote >>500492450 haze brainrot is real.
gg guys that was enough fun for today
We went against vegas now goddamn
i dont want to lane against viper. he 100 - 0'd me lvl 2 as Mo
is it just me or wrecker is beyond dogshit
7WHQ17WHQ17WHQ12 SLOTS FOR HERO LABS
>>500493354His ult is kinda neat but thats it
>>500493354Build ALL into ult
>>500493354He's the ultimate lane jannyIm hoping his model ends up looking cool, because we got a shitter on our team that could fit the role well
>>500493425>>500493456yeah but what do you do before you have 20k souls
Need a hero that can hide in breakables and leap straight into your camera if you break his hiding spot.Not at the character, but your camera. Like an fnaf jumpscare.
7WHQ17WHQ17WHQ17WHQ17WHQ17WHQ12 SLOTS FOR HERO LABS
>>500493354wait... who you talking about
>>500493649wrecker the hero
Where the fuck are his eyes?
>>500493747He's a boxerHis face is all swollen
>>500493747Lash is Popeye
>>500493747Give him Sharingan or make him totally blind for lolz
>>500493562started?
>>500493515>buy an item for ult>ult>obliterate some low hp schmuck>get kill money>repeat
Teleporters are kinda cracked as a solo lane. You get to have the same impact as a duo lane with it, since instead of influencing only one lane (the one duo lane next to you), you can reach the other solo lane at the other end of the map.
I'd imagine they'd be well aware of the pocket reload bug by now, I wonder why they're choosing to ignore it.
>>500494639I kind of hate the center subway ones but learning the side lane and side walker teleporters is the biggest game changer.
can you faggots stop playing bebop in ranked? why does literally every ranked game i play have a bebop going 1-10 on either team?
>>500494639>only open at 8 minsLaning is long over by then
>>500494639That's why they're closed until the laning phase is over retard
>>500495173and urn starts at 10 so the window to do something is too short. you have 2 minutes to shit on the other solo laner so you can get control of the urn everytime it spawns. but even with that, it's still good
Do slows stack on top of each other for a stronger effect or does the strongest one just override the weaker one?
i just want to subtly grief by sitting in the back shooting with ricochet and siphon bullets, which hero might be the best to do that with?
>>500495173>long over8 mins a decent time, but certain match ups result in stalling waves that can reach into 10 minsMore importantly he means you can easily provide value to 3 lanes assuming at least some walkers remain A won laning phase means they can pick a line to help soonest, since on top of only having one player assigned at the start its also the longest route across map (meaning more time can be spent away before the wave reaches objectives)
some real all stars out here in ascendant lobbies
>>500495883mirage
>>500495986>unranked
>>500495883Probably Mirage or Wraith, with Wraith giving more griefing potential by not looking for good ults. I think that's a legit Mirage playstyle now
>>500496086retard
>>500496191and who were le obscurus
>>500496265>another retard who doesn't know about seedingif they constantly get ascendant games they will rank ascendant dipshit
>>500496330not if they eat shit in their seeding games, retard
>>500496387untrue and even if it was true i said ASCENDANT LOBBIES which it wasconsider suicide
>>500496489yes your unranked ASCENDANT LOBBIES have these obscurus retards as filler until they get their shit kicked in like that and their hidden mmr drops them into phantom or archon or whatever eventually because they're fucking badit's more prevalent in unranked but even more reason not to care about those games
>>500493747THE LASH DOESNT NEED EYES
I wonder if there's a way to easily find premades playing together if they're not showing on the match trackers
>launch game>not responding>launch game again>not responding>join a game>not respondingwhat the fuck is wrong with this game
>>500496704nigga youre retarded
It's actually fucking insane how kudzu ivy is still a thing I fucking hate these subhuman devs
>>500497060this happens to me if I alt+tab after launching, it bugs out quite often
>>500497196There's so much cancer in this game like Mcginnis, Mirage, Infernus, etc and you're complaining about Ivy?
>>500497196crying about kudzu build is actually crazy hahahah you are so fucking bad hahhaHAHHAHAHAHA
>>500497196what do you mean just walk out of it
>end up in a ranked with a griefer that throws the game, tilting players the entire game>report for griefing>same person on my team the next dayIs this game really that dead?
>>500497196Was this written from the perspective of a creep minion?
>>500496704erm they ARE NOT!!! ascendant players they're just in your game shitting it up :^)
>He plays the FOTW broken hero>He thinks he's actually goodSurely this isn't you right?
>>500497691They could also be party queueing with someone. Y'know, since it's fucking unranked.
>>500497702Every match has autists playing every FOTW broken hero so it evens out
>play mirage for the first time in weeks>build cold front instead of ricochet for farming>dominate the game and winso it's that easy, huh?
>>500497702legit wish we could pick a hero to just avoid.
Dynamo is an objectively more broken ultbot than Mo but holy shit if M&K ult isn't tilting
>>500497897Mirage got overbuffed to S+++ tier for no reason you could literally build full melee magic carpet and dominate the game
>>500497793>since it's fucking unranked.
>>500497897redpill me on cold front, why does every fucking build recommend it? Do people really fall over because of a tiny slow?
Can someone explain how I should be building Mirage? Like core shit I should go for, powerspikes, branching paths... I know I can just look up a build but I'd rather understand him more before I play him
>>500498059On heroes like Lash and Mirage who get in the enemy's face it's just low-risk extra damage you don't have to aim.It's also great for farming.
>>500498059it was buffed, it does x2 damage to creeps so it's super free ez farming
>>500498059if youre in a duo and buy it at 5 minutes you can take t2 camps fast enough to not lose anything from being outside the lane and get a really quick advantage
>Holliday is now impossible to balance because of her 3 with a working jump pad>Callico ruined because her kits useless and needed her old 3 and ult to work well, while STILL getting stuck on walls>Vipers now omega broken>Magician can straight up mo and krill you on a basic CD but better >All my detailed feedback given a week ago about all these things is ignoredHero labs is truly a window into the retarded, pea sized brains of these overpaid developers
>>500498106level two scarabs, bullet resist shredder, head shot booster, close quarters. tornado people and dome them
>get a giga feeder on my team in 90% of my games nowneat matchmaking
I want to lock Ivy in her stone form in my backyard but leave her clothes unchanged so that they're still fabric and then molest her as she's unable to resist. Just whack off all over her and let the cum dry and cake her day after day all while she's unable to do a damn thing but watch as I debase her. Always making sure to face her as I do it so she can see the look on my face as I nut. Soon enough she's covered in my dried cum and her only hope is for a rainy day to wash it out because I'll never hose her down with anything but my piss and semen. Time will pass as she is utterly immobile, covered in all manner of detritus from the elements, from bird shit in her hair to all sorts of lovely vines growing up her legs, and the sort of pests that naturally accrue on stone surfaces. Her clothes are tatters, what little is left on her body hangs on by mere threads and you can see her perpetually hard nipples(not like she has a choice, she's a statue) and curves even as the sun fades her. Soon after an undetermined amount of time I would promise her a new home, generously donating her to the city's "underdeveloped" areas so that she can be a permanent accomodation in a park somewhere in New York that typically goes unfunded. There, naked Ivy will sat perched for a few days until the social detritus that camp in parks at night will become aware there is a stone slut for them to whack off onto, lean on as they vomit or piss, or just generally pass out under as they finish drinking the day away. All manner of substance and fluid have stained her by this point, lewd graffiti and countless vandalisms that accumulate as the odd human being with any decency petitions for ordinance workers to do something about the vandalism, but they never do anything with any permanence. The ritual is by this point so far removed from her mind after so long of immobility and literal objectification that I imagine her thoughts are no longer anything but coping with being a spectacle for hobos
I swear Lash got secretly buff or something I was struggling with him the last 2 weeks but since this latest patch I've winning about 70% of my gamesI also stopped using majestic leap and went back to stamina. Fuck chazm that shit was a meme and i fell for it
>>500498943yeah its really fucked up how they just released all of the heros from the hero lab all at once exactly as-is earlier today without doing more work on them or testing them for longer
>>500498059It was a good item before, but when they added the damage mult to NPCs it became S tier. Being able to clear fast is huge considering this game is farmville.
>>500498943just way for chuesday, they'll balance them...
>>500498943let me ask you this how can they truly see your feed back when they allowed so many people to come into the alpha lol have to many opinions going around for them to really see all the good ones i have seen a lot of great ideas from here be ignored
>>500499158Then maybe don't fucking open up the floodgates?Don't give me that fucking bullshit if they cannot handle feedback that is out of their own volition.It's no coincidence the balancing has gotten progressively shittier as more people come in.
>>500499078>stop buying noob trap item on lash>instantly win gamesWOOOOOOOOW. We've been telling you niggers you don't need leap on lash that 3000 could have been spent buying an item that's actually good for Lash
>>500498943>put experimental heroes in a special queue>retards STILL act like they aren't experimentalthis is why normal devs don't let players peek behind the curtain, you guys are fucking idiots who have no idea how games are made
>>500498943i HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE holiday
>>500495881so..what? No one knows?
>>500499357ah yes because the non hero labs heroes are balanced perfectly and the devs are doing an AMAZING job there
>>500499328wtf niggers were picking leap!?!?thats literally just lashes fucking 2
>>500495881>>500499651i believe they stack multiplicatively, which means you get diminishing returnsnot 100% sure about this though
i can never decide what fire rate item i want on abrams, i end up going like 30 minutes without a fire rate item because all the items you'd want on abrams dont provide it except maybe kinetic dash which is kinda annoying to proc in fights
>>500499790chazm buys leap and shitters just copy whatever chazm doesit doesn't help that averagejonas (a known shitter) says NOT to buy it on lash so some people are just doing the opposite of what he says
>aimbotting haze in my gameI'm gonna fedpost
>>500499754there has been a constant churning of top tier/meta characters as the devs buff weak heroes and nerf strong onesthis is exactly what we should expect to see in a playtest
>>500478731>t. meppz
>>500500282lmao haze is so shitty right now that might not even be a real problem truth be told
>>500500075Heroic Aura.
>game ends>write "gg">just a couple of seconds before the transition to the scoreboard, i tell someone they're garbage
>>500498059It's the highest spirit scaling item that deals direct damage and it deals 2x damage to creeps. >>500498849Honestly not hard to do that with most characters anyways.
>>500500561aimbot haze is very different to normal hazethe lash on the team had her on his team last team too lol, he said she went 30/0 last game to give them credit everyone on the enemy team were very gracious and knew they only won because of a cheater
Faceit fucking when?
How do you even kill with Bullet Dance now seriously
>>500500357>buff weak heroes>nerf strong onesHAHAHAHAHAHANice joke, faggot. Icefraud can't balance for shit. He only listens to shitter streamers who downplay their broken characters.
>>500501309You wait for the teamfight to start elsewhere and then use it
>>500501179FYI reporting in game does nothing (unless you want to comms limit someone for typing gg)There's an official discord channel for reporting cheaters
TOTAL HAZE LOVE. HAND HOLDING WITH HAZE. DANCING WITH HAZE. CUDDLING WITH HAZE. SNUGGLING WITH HAZE IN BED. KISSING HAZE. SWAPPING SALIVA WITH HAZE. MARRIAGE WITH HAZE. HAZE IN A BEAUTIFUL WEDDING DRESS. MATING WITH HAZE. IMPREGNATING HAZE. HAZE GIVING BIRTH TO OUR SMOKE CHILDREN. HAZE CRADLING OUR SMOKE CHILDREN IN HER ARMS WITH TEARS OF HAPPINESS IN HER EYES.
>>500501417You are so fucking stupid it's unreal. People are complaining about Talon in this very thread while he was a joke character last week.
>>500501309LMAOO you dont or you just use it when they all about to die and used all the skills that could stop it
ok but why did they buff Mo and krill tho
>>500501309be a character with an aoe damage like ivy
>>500501602They made BD like Seven's ult where using it just gets killed now
Mo n Krill is fun but he's kinda too strong. Doesn't require aiming which is my type of hero.
>all we need is a good dynamo ult the whole game>never get it>end of game see he went guild build>40 minute game 20k player damageROPE NOW FAGGOT
Name 1 (one) good Krill build.
>>500501713wait a min did you just asked for another mo buff
>>500501781That mfer feels unkillable until late gamet. Gun Warden
>>500501895guilding is fun tho
>>500501304>Faceitwtf is this are they aware these look like a box of gamer elite condoms
>>500501973Why would you build krill and not mo
>>500502197>gamer elite condomsproduct with a target audience of zero
>>500501549You just exposed yourself as a newfag. You should feel ashamed for believing in the "grey talon is bad" psyops.Next, you're gonna fall for the infernigger buff psyops just like the devs fell for the mcniggis one.
>>500502214Krill = spirit tank buildMo = gun build
>>500502526I think you have Mo and krill mixed up lil bro
>>500502526>>500502572I realized that I had their names swapped as soon as I hit the post button kek
>>500502307You are dumb as shit.
>get shitstomped by a haze that went 22/3/8>figure its just my team being retarded as usual and letting her get fed>next match, lane against the same haze (now vindicta)>perfect soul denying accuracy, bullets consistently hit my shoulders/head>get shoved under and lose guardian in less than fives minutes, on top of getting killed a couple times>game ends in another stomp a few minutes later, they went 11/0/3>check steam profile>privateso is this the new norm or are these people gonna get banned soon
>>500502839Ok but if he was actually cheating why not provide a match ID
>>500502839check the replays and if it's actually an aimbotter then report in the discordplenty of cheaters get banned as proven by the many posts on the forums from russians swearing that they did nothing wrong and were falsely banned for no reason at all
>>500502820Yeah okay Icefraud. Make sure to give the sandnigger another microbuff next patch.
>sapphire winning pretty convincingly because shiv and yamato are constantly getting caught out and picked off>mcchicken steals 1 rejuv and wins the game always the jewvinator
>>500502839I've already seen some pretty suspicious players, but its harder to tell when they're not in first person camera.
>>500502986>>500503028>>500503543match id 25712452, see for yourself their aim is way too snappy and accurate for someone in my shitter mmr bracket imo
>>500464758At the very least Yamato will have some sort of Ayy Lmao skin in reference to her current Neon Prime model
>>500503778uhh
>>500501539I WILL slap her ASS until she is DEAD and neither you,her or anyone else can stop me
>People are already coping about cheaters
>>500503543I feel like it could work in third person if the replay would show you their actual aim and cursor instead of you just being a spectator ghost.
>>500503778the haze and vindicta in this game are both complete garbage
>>500503778>This is your average player here LOL do mobababbies really?
>>500460213worst meta of all time vindicta talon just duo together and are both 6-0 by 8 minutes. what does knockdown do when they are 20k ahead and just buy debuff remover the second you get it FUCK YOU
Next major patch when?
>>500487608He’s gone from spirit carry to gank support although I do agree that he’s absolutely D tier because IceFraud listens to pisslow reddit shittersI find it fun to play him still and rush shadow weave to provide double stuns and burst damage.
>>500502839I didn't watch the replay but despite overwhelming evidence of cheats you have to understand people will gaslight you into thinking people aren't cheatingPeople fucking defend obvious snap through wall aimbots CS pros use, the fact that most aimbots are near undetectable to amateur players now is well beyond themIf the guy was significantly better at aiming than everyone else in the match he was almost certainly either cheating or smurfing
>wardens ult cone isn't actually the damage rangeI hate this cunt so much
i WILL pick kelvini WILL ruin the game for your teami WILL make you hate this gamei WILL wini WILL do so without aiming or doing anything interesting or creative or mechanically impressive in any way
>>500505569It's a huge cone. That shit can hit you on the rooftop if he's looking at you.
>>500505219yeah its toxic as shit played my first ranked match since the last major patch and both of them on the same team is toxic as fuck to deal with like its unenjoyable then you add the miku phantom 6 game
>>500505664He was chasing me, I could physically see I was out of the coneThe server ticks say I wasn't lmao
>>500505675>unironically using the word toxic
>>500505848don't be toxic bro
>>500505848what word would you use
How long until people realize HMC is insanely broken?
Throwing out an idea, Bebop's explosives having splash damage drop off, that'd be fucking nice to have
>>500506540gay
>>500501085>they report you for chat abuse>you get banned from ranked for a week
>>500506790
>>500506720Bro you still have to guess if an AoE respects LoS or not and you're asking for dropoff?
>>500501304I genuinely think valve are dumb for not just hiring faceit years ago to run their ranked in games. Even their anti cheat solutions are miles beyond VAC.
>>500506921I got chat muted for a day for asking a griefing kelvin what the fuck was wrong with him and to find a new hobby (he was 0/18/1 and would use ult to trap us with the ulting enemy team).It's actually insane how easy it is to trigger this.
>>500506545What's HMC
>>500507000>gay bullets give you AIDsheh
>>500507049Valve is certifiably retarded when it comes to anti-cheat. Their most profitable game literally lost it's ranked mode to a third party because of how bad they are at it.VAC is the worst anti-cheat on the market, and Valve also makes games that are particularly highly susceptible to cheats.
>>500507124heavy melee cancel
>>500507124Homunculus Mole Characters, he's referring to Mo and Krill.
>>500507021I'll admit, you're fully right in that regard, there's no fucking reason any of these god damn AoEs should go straight through solid walls. Some also have infinite vertical range
>>500506545my hero can't use itand that alone should be a big reason why they should remove it altogether, it's way too fucking good and makes heroes that can use it a notch above the rest
>>500507124Healthy Magic Carpet. It's the new all green + magic carpet build.
>>500507124https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzSXSIpAFU8
>>500507286Just buy fleetfoot.
>>500507221>>500507338Thanks
>>500460213Is gay talons owl actually dodgable in any way outside of hiding. I cant stand solo laning against this guy.
>>500507447It's not as good if you don't have a built in option and the ability to use it multiple times
I asked why this guy gave up/ was griefing because he was jungling at 6 mins and let his walker + guardian die. My team acted like I was totally wrong and it's NORMAL to lose your walker to mcginnis. Like wtf? Shoot the creeps? Im not crazy rightThis is archon/oracle rank
>>500507484If you press your push to talk key and yell "OWL OWL GO AWAY PLEASE COME BACK ANOTHER DAY" it forces the owl to despawn.
>>500507523lmao all i can say in those games just put them on all mute you can win all those games off of good macro most of the time and people will 100% give up in those ranks
>>500507109Yep. I've been sitting 5 months calling people retarded when they were retarded and now all of a sudden I got a 2 day chat ban and I saw it stopped me playing ranked so I cooled off on flaming retards. Literally ONLY said something if it was to help someone out. Guess what literally dying 0 times in 2 games and winning 4 ranked games in a row landed me with? Another 4 days chat ban. I missed out on an entire week of ranking because of it. I literally did not flame one person even slightly. My comms were literally just "hey this guys coming to gank you" "we could do with anti heal" "I'm coming to kill this guy lets go". This got me a 4 day ban. The forums is full of people complaining they got randomly chat banned despite not even communicating in game. There's people openly gloating on the official discord about knowing they can just get their stack to throw 3 reports on one person in the same game and they guaranteed get banned. People are openly admitting to doing this on the forums also. Like how long is Valve/Yoshi going to just ignore this blatant abuse of the report system? You don't get report banned for misusing reports by the way. You get report banned for spamming reports. So the sort of people who just drop a report on one person as a stack to fuck them aren't getting punished for doing so and never will. You literally have to sit there and report like 20 people in 5 games like a sperg lord to manage getting report banned.
>acting like your one off comments are what got you bannedI've been talking shit almost every other game since I started playing in early September and never got banned, you guys are 100% crying every single match
>Bebop>Pocket>Warden>Shiv>Talon>Yamato What other characters are built for hybridGAWDs?
>>500507684IM JUST confused how there are 4 other retards that dont know you can shoot creeps to defend towers
>tfw emissary 3Im.. bad.. at video juegos…
The best part about the report system is that you could rape an enemy hardcore and they could just opt as a team to drop 3 reports on your ass for 'chat abuse' even if you said absolutely nothing and it'll still just trigger a ban with no investigation and get you removed from ranked for an entire week. lol lmao.
>>500507934paradox ofc
>entire team goes spirit>entire enemy team goes gun>lose
>>500507918I am not, are you playing ranked?Are you playing against/with stacks?This is 100% a recent issue and you see a lot of posts about this out of nowhere, you can literally not say or type a single word and it can still get you restricted.
>>500507989Pulse grenade OOT
>WELL I CALL PEOPLE NIGGERS EVERY SINGLE GAME AND I NEVER GET BANNEDyeah anon we totally believe you. was adolf hitler there to clap at you too?
>>500507962Lmao you guys are going to get them to just make it like dota 2 shit i would love if they did that since i love talking shit in pubs/ranked
>>500507989That's an idea.Truth be told my friend mains paradox so I haven't tried her even once
>>500508015spirit been nerfed lately we are in a gun meta be ahead of the curve
>>500508078He was
>decide to play one last match before the window closes>we're getting owned hard>down 40k>no way we can win>suddenly, our abrams steals the rejuv>we claw our way to a soul lead>we get the next midboss with no contest>we win the matchi love this game so much bros
I might play like dogshit but landing a random bebop hook from 75m away is peak
>laning>have slower bullets and no nukes>loseGoddamn this shit makes me RAGE SO FUCKING HARD. THREE TIMES AS MUCH when I get ganked, and can't get a fucking gank to save Oh I can't fucking last hit because the stupid nigger is allowed to be closer to the wave, and I can't fucking last hit because his bullets are faster and he's closerFUCK THIS FAGGOT SHIT
>be bad at game>lose a bunch>start buying curse and using mic>win a bunchis it literally that simple?
>>500508586If youre bad at the game it's a valid decision to just buy curse and other cucking items to ruin their best player's game. It's like a 2 for 1 trade
anyone tried this game with a controller?
>>500507484One of your best options, is not to run away, but to rush him when he tries to go for it. It either forces him to take the damage as he attempts to turn it around and hopefully catch you, or cancel it and defend himself. If you're already too far, you'll need him to lose track of you when you hide and be far enough that the AoE can't hit you through the walls.
>>500507338Is it good to start buying fleetfoot for the air movement hmc? It looks like a good item no matter what hero.
>terms of service: you will not say nigger nigger nigger>"NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!">"wtf why am I banned?!"lol, classic
>>500508621lmao dont do it to yourself
>>500508564I genuinely have no idea why high velocity rounds isn't literally just a flat +200 m/s value or something. It is literally useless for the lower end of round velocity and is often times 3x more benefit for the higher end ones. It's retarded. Make it flat.
>>500508691I literally always get it and It saves me/gets me kills every single game. Plus it's fun.
What am I supposed to do as geist, i like her but i have like a 20% winrate with her
>and then albert einstein said I could call future 'people' niggers through portals too>so I did and I never got banned for it!
>I called someone a nigger and I saw none other than Yoshi join the server and he just said 'based' and then left>and then goebbels showed up to give me a hand shake in person after the game was done
>>500509092Would you say you'd get it over Kinetic Dash? Ignoring the part where fleetfoot takes an active slot.
sometimes people act in such a way you have to let them know they're behaving as a nigger would, it's that simple. just don't sperg out and it's fine and you won't get banned.
just say "i would call you a slur"you can't be banned for that
>>500508824Mathematically it actually lowers your travel time significantly more (flatly) for slower bullets
WARDEN IS SO GODDAMN SLOWQUIT NERFING THIS NIGGAEVEN HIS BULLETS ARE SLOW AS FUCK
>>500505219>Playing KevinYou have no one to blame but yourself, chud
>"either you're saying nigger and getting banned or you're not saying nigger"No, I just use it sparingly enough to not get in trouble because I'm not retarded like you guys.
>>500509403>you can't be banned for thatYou can get banned for typing "a" once, possibly even for saying nothing at all.The reports are about the amount of people reporting, much like world of warcraft reports, it doesn't matter what you say or do, what matters is that you're getting reported, hence why ganging up on someone works and why it's a known thing in wow.Only a genuine retard would implement this, and shows just how fucking dumb these devs actually are
no you get perma'd for saying shit like nigger. you're just larping like a pathetic faggot for attention. no y0u for u
>>500507684>>500507523goddamn it was a 50 minute game but we won LMAO. The mcginnis ended up with 19 deaths. I guess they were a 1 trick pony. That shiv and mcginnis lane felt like they were in a totally different MMR so fucking weird.
>>500503778Replays smooth the camera movements so it's less shakey for viewers, so it looks more mechanical
>>500507934Kelvin
>>500509801congrats you are going to go on a win streak now brother
>>500509748I had a friend in SoD who got his account perma'd because he used to literally spend all day ganking outside gnomer as an ele shaman. MYSTERIOUSLY perma'd with no prior warnings one day. this guy did not buy gold. he did not bot anything. if he ever talked shit to anyone it was exclusively in discord. they had nothing on him. perma'd for ganking PVE babs and them mass reporting him one week.
>>500509619>mcginnis
I do say the N word and I do get away with it
>I was in a game and I called chazm a nigger and mikaels clapped for me it was so fun you guys
>>500509890WAGMI
>>500509515His most meta build involves divine barrier and fleetfoot how are you slow nigga
>>500509658>win hard>say nothing the entire game>get muted afterwhatever dude, it's like this is some kind of social communism, where the people who are just sore losers and never pop off can have their pity win
>mcginnis>mo n krilli need a third hero that is also braindead. which one?
every time I log in to deadlock it's like a giant turd comes out of my monitor and splashes poop all over me, that's sort of what the game feels like
>>500511089abrams
Imagine being upset that other people can say nigger without consequences
>>500511118you dont have to admit you have a scat fetish anon
>>500511283Scatfags are gross, but fartfags are based
>>500511283>see an anime girl posted on 4chan>save it and use it as a steam pfp>friend randomly calls me out on it and mentions it's cropped art from a scat picture>ask him how he knows this>has no answer>just quietly ghost him and remove him a week later
>>500511089infernus
Today while playing pocket, I jumped on a mo&krill who was snooping as usual in our jungle and almost killed him in a single big burst. One mystic shot for soul shredder + vulnerability followed by all of my abilities at the same time basically just killed him. I feel like pocket is one of the only characters who can do this to tanks early-midgame
How would you design a pure melee hero that doesn't suck during laning?
>>500511438>Pure melee heroHow about you don't
>>500511139It upsets me. Because I'm black.>inb4 you're not blackWell, here's my hand to prove it.
>>500511438Yamatobut better
How is it supposed to be good game design that tanks are hard as fuck to kill but also rape your asshole and can run you down? Like yeah they fall off later game kinda when you got a bunch of shit to counter them but for the vast majority of the game they just have insane pressure and you can't really do anything against them without your team
>>500511694Every tank, without fail, will heavy melee you, because they have monkey brainsDo with that what you will
>>500511694BBBBuild Burst Better
>>500511743monkey brain happy when hold Q
>>500511623Coon
>>500511805Alright tell me the secret sauce to being able to kill a M&K early or even midgame if they aren't a total fucking retard
>>500511971Hook them and then uppercut them into your guardian
>>500511971okay who do you play
>>500511971Doesn't slowing hex silence burrow? That's a big one. Also, Decay is pretty much perfect for fighting every tank. Trying to stay out of melee range against charge apes takes a lot of effort but is usually worth it as they're too brainless to shoot instead of holding Q. With M&K in particular, you should be getting like a 100% headshot rate on him by shooting center mass; even with the new 20% headshot resist his health in head-to-head fights is severely impacted by the giant weak spot
>>500511971>dodge burrow>magdump him
>>500511971decay healbane
>>500512181>slowing hex silence burrowholy fuck thank you anon i'm going to start buying this against mo
>>500512236Remember that it silences literally every movement based skill. It's invaluable in so many matchups
>>500512181slowing hex doesn't because technically it doesn't give anything besides movespeed. Same with warden 2. Any move that soley gives movespeed and no other mobility function, fight, tp, etc is not affected by slowing hex.
Is mystic vulnerability worth it on Lash? I know that sounds stupid but I also want room for actives, and improved burst is always going to take a slot no matter what. Besides, I'd only be proccing it with mystic shot or stomp since you're saving flog for once you've taken some damage
>>500512316>>500512329getting conflicting answers here
>>500512358no. like you said you have no real way to reliably proc it before your burst combo.
>>500512451
hey home of sexuals. anybody know the console command for active items? I want to keep Z for my item slot one but also want it on mouse_button_3
>>500511971unless you are abrams even then you are always going to need at least 2 people to bring him down even with slowing hex he always has Scorn so unless you have healbane and or decay is going to be very hard to take him down
>should we make it so using burrow offensively isn't terrible and unburrowing at fast speeds is more controllable and doesn't fling you a million miles away>maybe then we can nerf his tankyness and insane healing to make him more fun to play and not totally cancer to play against while also not making him too weak>nahh let's just make him tankier lol lmao
>>500511971Also, know that some characters are a lot better at dueling and murdering someone than others. For example, Abrams, Pocket, and Bebop all have1. An easy way to close distance 2. Extremely high close range burstSo if you're playing a character like that you'll have a much easier time catching out a Mo&Krill and killing them.>>500512329Damn, I thought for sure because he had a whole unique "burrowing" state it worked... Sucks man.>>500512358Maybe, if you can consistent land mystic shot. It's a must have on Pocket, who's pretty similar in gameplay to LashAlso flog has like a sub 10 second cooldown levelled so you should probably just be spamming it
>>500512774Mo and Krill will totally dumpster an Abrams, are you stupid lol
>>500512892No. If you think like that your stupid as fuck. His charge stuns him out of burrow and combo. I can't even see 1 reason why Mo would ever win a fight against abrams lmao.
>>500513030>your stupidOpinion discarded
>>500513030>his charge stuns him out of combowhat the fuck am I reading
>>500512892Abrams is just better. Better burst, better CC, better gun, better healing. The one thing MK has over Abrams is the big disarm in teamfights, which is insanely annoying but not really game changing.
>>500513102what do you think Mo's ult is called.
>>500513158are you saying abrams can use his charge while being mo ulted?
>>500513030pretty much abrams is a very bad match up for him
>>500513189No you see Abrams beats mo when Mo is fighting someone that isn't Abrams
>first day of vacation, super good mood>get communication banned because the devs are stupid as fuck if anyone reports you for any reason>play game>literally unable to communicate in any way in a team game>50 minute losing game - that you can't leave because the game punishes you - hehe again!I've never disliked game developers so much, I hope this game crashes and burns and the pieces of shit working on it lose their jobs. It's been years since I've had to resist the impulse from slamming or breaking something over a fucking video game, so much frustration built up over an hour. I might legitimately never buy anything from steam again because of this.
>>500513102Having an on-demand stun on a short cooldown is pretty much the perfect tool for saving your teammates from Combo. Plus, Abrams can spam the button while he's getting Combo'd, and assuming he lives he'll pin the mole against a wall frame one of getting out and rape him
>>500513228I don't believe you.
>>500513228>he said the nigger word
>>500513189An Abrams has infinitely more self heal than any Mo and it's completely passive. Ulting an abrams will probably do fucking negative damage to him as he outheals the tickle damage of Combo, it literally does jack shit to him as well as the rest of his abilities. Meanwhile Abrams can ACTUALLY dish out damage with his shotgun and charge.
>>500513462>Gee Abrams! How come Yoshi lets you have two abilities that heal?
rekt
>>500513228seething this much suggests you are an ape who almost certainly earned that ban
>>500513562This. It's literally a 2v1, not even fair.
>>500513568>>500513430>>500513398Of course, the reaction after the fact justifies the imaginary slights I must have committed. Another reason why I can't stomach this shit, the boot lickers.
>>500513562Teamwork in a 1v1 (technically 2v1). Krill better be jacking Mo off hard to win that fight.
>>500513562Does ChatGPT even know what Deadlock is?
>>500513749Of course, how else would it have known that Mo and Krill beats Abrams?
>>500513679ragepig
watching eternus players smurf on stream is crazy they dont even feel bad about it lol
>>500514256Smurfs will never admit the negative impact they have on a game's growth
>>500514256it's for content
If Seven electrocuted the fuck out of Krill and killed him, leaving him all golden and crispy, do you think Mo would eat him?
>>500513189How the fuck are you charging a mo that's comboing youYou're genuinely retarded
>>500514496gotta get that protien brah
mo probably needs like 5k calories a day, what does krill feed him? they live in the tunnels so they probably don't make a lot of money. he probably lures victims underground like some pennywise shit
>>500514808that's what I SAID you fucking IDIOT don't REPLY to me AGAIN
Spirit resist added back to unstoppable on thursdayFixation buffs on thursdayKnife buffs on thursdaySmoke buffs in thursdayUlt fix on thursday
>>500515046I was under the assumption Krill makes anyone who uses the tunnels pay a small fee, since it's stated he and Mo kill whoever use the tunnels for their own benefit.
>>500515216Haze is finally balanced and you retarded niggers still don't have enough.
>>500515281No I want them to eat people
>>500515281the implication is that they go after people who use the tunnels for violent ends (invasions, assassinations, etc.) in order to ensure they remain neutral ground for traders and smugglers>>500514496do you guys think he would taste more like fried chicken or popcorn shrimp?
>>500514256streamers do this in every game I have seen except counter-strike (and that's only because of faceit's very strict rules). I don't know why companies don't take a firmer stance on it because it's effectively cheating and also >>500514316
>>500515402>I don't know why companies don't take a firmer stance on it because it's effectively cheating
>>500515493Based valvo, fuck smurfaggots
>>500515383>>500515397Ok, here's the compromise. When somebody uses the tunnels for violent activities, Krill the electricity hold from Combo while Mo eats them.
Is improved burst still worth on pocket
>>500515493ah I forgot about that. they also did the coal gift thing now that I remember.
>>500515360Haze is shit outside of sub saharan african iq tier, though.
Yamatobros how are you building her now? All her items got nerfed.
Guess who won. The answer might surprise you.
>>500516189It's very obvious sapphire won to me
>>500516031ring of repick, hero's unplayable zero reason to pick her when half the roster is S tier right now
>>500516031Well, improved burst got buffed and she's one of the few characters who can use it now so it's back on the menu. Lifestrike+torment pulse+ improved burst are good core mid game with good amount of armor+lifesteal+at least one offensive active as well. Headhunter is also decent. Late game, mystic reverb and either leech or frenzy, and refresher are the core
>>500516189when will you retards realize that the winning side always has the patronand enemy team had lash + GT + vindicta, it's always that side
>>500516875>the winning side always has the patronwow...
Fun game man. Reminds me of why I quit dota. Just play until you are so depressed you want to die then go to bed for the night.
>most boring lane of all time, basically just a farm fest>other lanes get stomped so she gets up on souls anywayman
>>500517192lol you can have a 50/50 win rate and still climb so dont get down brother
god they need stricter backdoor prevention it's so easy to go in as a solo wraith and just solo phase 2 patron.
>>500517571weakened patron should have 100% damage resist when backdoor protection is up
>>500517410My win rate is 45% since starting the game so that doesn't work.
>>500517571backwhoring is such a hollow victory, no fight, just going in and shooting an npc and maybe an enemy shows up at the last second and it's already too late for them.
>>500516875amber lost THOUGH
>>500517571so you want the games longerand does anyone else feel like return fire is a bit overrated as a item not saying its bad but its not all that
>>500516031There's ZERO fucking reason to pick yamato right now when there's a yamato with>Better power slash with global range>That has charges>That is safer>That is ten times easier to play>That has CC>That has a better gun>That scales better>That has a better laneYou are GRIEFING if you do
>>500516031refresher duration punch build is a funny meme on her
>>500518735which hero is that
>>500518735And let me guess, grandma can just become invulnerable and unstoppable for 4 seconds?
why are people still allowed to pick troondicta and gey talon
>>500520102Because Vindicta has 50% winrate
>>500520242yes that's truly one of the winrates of all time
>>500520242Where can I find reliable winrate data? Preferably by ranks.
Ivy's ass
>>500519152>Use my "invulnerable and unstoppable for 4 seconds" ult>enemy just runs away because I'm not archon>Have to drop down, turn around the corner and hook in>By the time I arrive there's 1.3 seconds left of ultlol
>>500520937>enemy just runsEvery good Yamakek I meet applies infinite slows before ulting so you can't get more than 20 meters from her
Talking towers, trash or cash?>https://youtu.be/xxvccGgYDMw?si=FroT_aH-D8JD6v9X
>>500496704you are genuinely the most retarded gorilla nigger i have ever seen
>>500522340Damn. They really sound cute.
>>500522340i think if the towers were likeable mascots that would make players more want to defend them
>>500522340Wish they'd fucking do SOMETHINGWhy are guardians, walkers, and especially base guardians so useless
>>500522340This can't be real. I'm going to check the files myself.
>>500524110Oh god, it's real. But there are 3 other voice variants, one of which is by Debra Wilson.https://voca.ro/1fk44DzXQs96https://voca.ro/1mJLnFcUxPGchttps://voca.ro/1dLCOx1IXavshttps://voca.ro/17dK6VuC9RgsAll of these are named like other holdover files from Neon Prime, so I assume that this is scraped content.
>>500523617somebody post the walking tower webm
>>500509097Buy healing items asap1250 bullet heal is huge in lane if you play aggressive
>>500524410Which one's the african queen? 2nd one?
>>500525447The one that sounds like the Sapphire Flame patron (or like Shelda from Bugsnax), yes.
Do people expect me as lash to just fucking send it in lane constantly?
>>500522340This is for future skins retards
>>500525876What skins?
Please stop being mean to Ivy, and to Ivyfags as well.She needs buffs and she'll never get them without everyone's support.
>>500465153I tried melee heavy punch jump cancel paradox. You can do heavy melee and cancel it with charge carbine, you can double jump, heavy melee and cancel it with carbine for some decent momentum and then you go point blank. Your epic wombo combo is baiting a parry with carbine cancel, throwing a grenade doing a heavy melee then pulling enemy back into grenade radius so they take maximum amount of damage amp and then shooting your carbine if I remember it correctly. Unfortunately this requires some skill and it was too much for my haze brain not to force and fuck up.
>>500514256i think they're just getting games on new accounts so they can play ranked on a different time zone because the limited time window sucks ass.
>pick mirage>buy ricochet>stack spiritWhy don't people just do this
>>500527272because that is a complete shitbuild
>>500527272takes longer to build up those stacks than the average duration of a teamfight
>Ivy lane partner>Follows me around a lot of the game>Rescue beams me a few times and uses Watcher's Covenant on me>Start getting a hardonBrehs..
>>5005273451 point of spirit gives 5 damage to an 8x passive thoughever
>>500527272>just hope they stand still for 1 minute bro i swear this spiritmaxx mark mirage build top 0.1% is good
>>500527272You completely fuck your 1v1 potential which limits what mirage does best throughout mid game, split pushing
you dont got what it takeshttps://files.catbox.moe/arstod.webm
>>500528118https://streamable.com/12v2hwi have what it takes
>>500528118>lash abuser webminstantly closed
>>500528670KEKED
>>500527407It's not gay if he's playing a female character.
>>500528118>his team already got it>death slam did nothing>no ground pound>his team did 90% of the damage>pounced around like a faggot doing nothingthe most mid lash clip ive seen kek
>>500529136show me a lash clip where you death slam their entire team lil bro
>>500529205>lash abuser statsdidn't read
>>500527894For 8 seconds, and they don't even need to stand still because lolricochet>>500528094I just feel like a support procmaster sort of mirage might be pretty funny in action>personal mobility like extra stamina and shit, maybe even superior stamina>slowing bullets>inhibitor>ricochet>a few fire rate items>entire enemy team gets cancer and aids every single teamfight, then starts taking gorillion damage once you spiritmaxx
>>500529253if you don't enjoy playing lash there's something deeply wrong with you, idk what to say
>>500529205how the fuck do I farm as lash lmaothere's no fucking creeps or waves anywhere
>>500529772it's a side effect of having 1 death, it's an unusual experience, it's not like I was specifically trying to power farm or taking ancients, just rotating as lane janny and box/jar maxxing during the rotates. I had +25 spirit for free at the end
is the fact that they win for free, or that 'le kda doesnt' matter the reason why elo inflated dogs on support have ego? it was like this in every moba i played
>>500530131Kda doesn't matter in any game besides halo tdm brobro
>>500530131holy cope lmaoWhenever I support my ass is keeping you babysat, giving you buffs and removing debuffs, keeping others off you to give you breathing space so you can left clickTry it sometime
If they want to genuinely nerf Infernus without gutting him, they need to buff debuff reducer so that the active makes you immune to debuffs for like 4 seconds or something. Purging debuffs is nice but against infernus, he can literally just shoot you for half a second and apply his burn again making it nearly pointless and this generally applies to any debuff that's not from a single shot, long cooldown ability (i.e. pockets ult)
>>500530645make the burn take more hits and/or last less timemake ricochet shots take longer to build debuffs on people
>>500530732>make the burn take more hits and/or last less timethat would gut him>make ricochet shots take longer to build debuffs on peopledecent idea but doesn't help the overall problem
I'm fine with Infernus being gutted
>>500530887how the hell does making him commit more for ignite gut him
bruhalso how the fuck do I farm
>>500531042Because his gun is extremely mediocre and the burn is the entire thing that makes it good. You want to make it take longer and shorten the duration so infernus would only ever get burn off if someone is out in the open, in a semi-short distance (since burn build up takes longer the further away they are) for several seconds and then the reward for burn is shorter than it was before.
>>500530645Debuff remover is not an infernus counter. Most people go 100% gun on infernus so the burn does diddly dick damage and is only used for a bit of spirit lifesteal healing.
>>500531940They go hybrid in my games. Why focus on one type of damage when you can be dealing both? Literally part of why Vindicta is a problem right now
>>500532030Because there's not enough money to make them both viable. You have to focus on one thing if you want to outpace green items.
>>500531423infernus has one of the stronger guns in the game, I don't think you know what you're talking about
>fighting infernus geist laneGUH
>>500531940>Debuff remover is not an infernus counter.Read the original post in the chain numbnuts
>>500530645Players being allergic to counter itemization does not mean infernus is op
>>500532143Nah it's pretty mediocre. Oil and Burn are what elevate it.
>>500532678But I don't wanna buy toxic bullets, healbane, debuff reducer, spirit armor or bullet armor. I'm working on my boundless spirit and then I gotta get soul rebirth like my reddit-approved build told me to.
>>500532678I never said Infernus was OP
>>500532790The cheapie counter is slow hex, get it early and the first couple Naruto runs will be death for him and then he'll build greens and stat pad the rest of the game
>>500532845Why would they need to nerf him then, he's 3rd worst winrate according to tracklockIs it because of the pickrate? I'd say if people want to play a weak hero then let em
>>500533132>A character should only have some kind of nerf if they're OPWhat kind of retarded logic is that. Infernus is obviously strong and I didn't ask for a direct nerf, but a buff to an item that would, if someone picked that item, make infernus weaker.
>>500533223Debuff Reducer/Remover is fine as a counter item for him thoughbeit. 30-35% reduced flat damage from his debuff and you can couple it with spirit armor if you really want to. It's value.
>valve is actively deleting threads on people complaining about the report abuselmao this game is already in indian automod status. it's over.
we're just scratching the surface of item builds... All these tiny throwaway stats could stack up to something substantial if combined the right way. I know it.To me it feels like diving for treasure in a pitch black underwater cave. I don't know what's up, or what's down, or if I'm going forwards, or backwards, or going in circles... but I know there's gold at the end of this tunnel...
