Previous: >>501338996>NewsVersion 1.3 "Virtual Revenge" Special Programhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWZKv08DRvsAgent Record | Tsukishiro Yanagihttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/33558382Agent Record | Lighter Lorenzhttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/33586001>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZvfPRf1-i4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-E2gjaiMhIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N_o6OwOyd0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcjFp9_0flo >Upcoming Events for 1.3Full 1.3 details and events: https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/126603"En-Nah" Into Your Lap - Check in to claim 10 free Boopons! - 10/16 - 11/05Roaming the Ether - Complete minigames and recover lost data for the Cunning Hares - 10/16 - 10/28Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup - Double drops for all Routine Cleanup stages - 21/10 - 26/10Vicious Dogs Within - Earn Doggy Vouchers exchangeable for various rewards by playing Soul Hounds III - 25/10 - 11/01141 Friendship Fair - Help Sjal with the Sixth Street market fair and earn rewards - 27/10 - 11/04>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTHSAHLWFEFEZZZ4PCSGJADSHBF>Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpilehttps://rentry.org/ZZZFriends
This one.
bwos, they're going to make 3 part original animation series for miyabi at this rate. Maybe even a mibibi musical
what is the fastest method in HZ to grind bangboo exp mats? i want to uncap all my boos
>>501355738soukakute
section soul
Rorin Cape
Why do I get the feeling the update brought a lot of people into the general. I've seen the terms "unit", "light cone", "mora", and "power creep" more in the last two days than I did the entirety of 1.2. Go the fuck back.
is kino6 corin worth leveling or is she useless now
>>501356024take your meds, tranny.
>>501356024sar please tell me the value sar should I pull sar?
Is the Knightboo any good? If so, who for?
MILKING YANAGIThere, I said what everyone was thinking about
>>501356024New update People who use other threads come to see the new update Shit poster opportunistsIt's the patch before 1.4 which changes a lot so maybe they want to get ahead Genshin and star rail are currently super duper ultra dead Lot of factors
I drew this https://files.catbox.moe/bpw893.jpeg
Miyabi will save this gameShe has to...
>>501356132Maybe Nicole + Zhu if grouping is not a concern.
>>501356226Nice. Take commissions?
>MV with no ship faggotryThanks Da Wei
>>501356024I prefer this than people doomposting yanagi for three weeks straight and salesfags.
>>501356325yanagi x soukaku...
>>501356132I can see him being a good generalist Bangboo for any team that is using a normal Support agent but I need to experiment once I get all of his dupes. The ATK buff seems kinda inconsequential at first glance but I might be wrong. I want to use him regardless because the unicorn thing is extremely cute
AVETRVE TO CAESAR
Alright bros, newfren here. IK36 and only been playing a couple weeks.What is my best two teams from among my roster? I managed to luck out on both Burnice and Yanagi so I got them both in about a 100 pulls collectively.Presently I'm running: Yanagi, Anby, and Nicole - Burnice, Lucy, and Piper.I know Yanagi and Burnice work well together but I'm pretty sure seperating them most easily gives me two strong teams. Thoughts? My Nicole has Weeping Cradle too.
>>501356290$120
>>501356386I have sent an elite squad to kill you
I'm euro but I play on the american server because some anon posted a pic of nicole wearing an american bikiniMy ping is always orange, it doesn't matter right?
A nomal generic bland song for a nomal generic bland woman that sees herself as a normal generic bland woman.
>>501356493Honestly, not a bad rate.
>>501356226why is the resolution so shit drawbro
sales?
I guess floor 20 is as high as I go. I don't have the patience to restart every time I get tickled and end up losing Caesar's shield and 60%+ hp of whatever character I was on. Really would like to eventually get the floor 30 reward.
>>501356571People love normal generic bland women!
>>501356541no you can only actually lag during hdd explorationcombat is only affected if you straight up lose connection>I play on the american server because some anon posted a pic of nicole wearing an american bikiniwut
I don't want to admit it but I think I'll have to resort to the Caesar crutch... Pompey is just too unfair...
>>501356459Yanagi/Burnie/BenPiper/Lucy/Nicole
anyone else getting frame drops in the vr area
>>501356660Why don't you get totally bodied and find out your limit at least once? Losing is fun! (once in a while)
>>501356024Both Genshin and HSR are dead right now, so a lot of people probably decided to check out ZZZ. It honestly makes me suspect that Hoyo planned it out because I remember Genshin also had a dead patch when HSR was released.
>>501356729What appeal could she possibly have?!
>>501356459yanagi/burnice/lucy for a super teampiper/nekomata/nicole as a cope teamjust make piper as strong as possible and she'll carry your cope team across the finish line
>read the patch notes>they actually added cutscenes for lucy and piper's affinity resonia in OG HZ>cool, let's see what they are>It seems like her trust events weren't enough. Lucy dev confirmed pushing this character on us and I'm all for it.
What's the sales status of Yanagi? I'm surprised she did better than Burnice
How the fuck did this game from casual easy game to prenerf elden ring?
Man 26+ of the Battle Tower is no joke
>>501356785Maybe another time but I was not having fun when they drop multiple enemies with super beefy health/daze and that can do that kind of damage at once. Sadly patience isn't a virtue I have in an instance like this.
My wives Brick Joe and Flop Doe
>>501356459Yanagi/Burnice/Lucy, Koleda/Ben/Corin...honestly you could pair Yanagi/Burn with anyone and Lucy/Piper with anyone and it'll work out
>>501356839They definitely do
>>50135702520 already made me learn how to dodge Jane's attacks. I was kinda just blitzing her in shiyu because Caesar shield lets me ignore her damage but it's hard to do so when getting hit deletes your HP.
>>501357025Yeah I cannot go past 39. I guess you really need to whale C6 Jane and C6 Caesar to beat all 100 floors
>>501356729zenless zone zero indeed
>>501356571Her thighs and ass equalize it all desu
>>501356934>I issued a ticket about thisDEVS LISTENED!
>>501357017There's no problem with optional fringe content being difficult.Otherwise what's the fucking point of 90% of the systems? What are you optimizing to do?
>>501356934Brickybros...
>>501357025I find 26~30 easier than 20~25 since there's only one enemy
>>501356934>feetGross Lucyfags lost
nobody's making you do floor 16+ of tower
>>501357225There's difficult and then there's *slaps you for 100% of your HP*
>>501357159>Could have c6'd Caesar but didnt cause no content needed it>they release content that needs it
>>501356024>in the last two daysYou clearly weren't here for the M1 vs C1 vs K1 shitposting in the 1.0 threads.
>want Yanagi but already have GraceI feel conflicted, bring me numbers, how much better Yanagi is compared to the russian tiddy monster
>>501357225ZZZ is a video game.The point of video games is to be fun.If a piece of content is not fun for 99% of players, it's bad content.Hope this helps.
>>501357296faggot
>new difficult content>its just the same as before but with a couple zeros added to the end of their stats
>>501357356>M1 vs C1 vs K1So, which one do we use?
>>501357421M1
What do you think of Anomaly Mastery 6th slot for Lucy in S11/Caesar/Lucy team? I notice that I can barely build another burn after 8 seconds for S11 Inferno Metal crit uptime tho I'm not sure losing 60% of ER from Lucy would be worth the cost.
Did they fix the glitch?
>>501356934>Eos got to feel Lucy's bare feet on him\EOS IS SO LUCKY
>>501356571That coffee event where she calls herself that, it was more self aware than I was expecting. Even though she's a barbarian mutant with time powers it doesn't color her interactions with anyone but soukaku. Good or bad, idk I'm just the messenger
>>501357303The group will review your badges shortly
>>501357421Primarily M but no one cares anymore
>>50135702528 is really annoying because the dog doesn't have the shine for a lot of his attacks and it's very hard to read his animations when your shitting out flashy effects from your own attacks
>>501357401>he's still crying about it
>>501357303I dunno why some are so mad about it, like anyone can make it to 15 and they don't have to touch it ever again if the mode makes them bored or angy
>ellen flopped>zhuyuan flopped>qingyi flopped>jane flopped>caesaar flopped>burnice flopped>yanagi floppedyenless flop zeroed
>>501355980
>>501357303>>501357557>NOOO you can't criticize anything unless you're forced to do it!Holy fuck why are there so many mihomo slurpers in this general, feels like I'm on reddit
what discs for nagi?
>>501357421None of the above. We're all F2P day wunners with sub 5 digit UIDs, all we know is the S-ranks are at 0 and the A-ranks are maxed.
>>501356934>No boldly accept optionWhy
>>501356917Mibi should have been shorter desuwa. Like barely above the kids.
The yanagi song is kind of a bop...
>>501357356Speaking of, dupes of balls are officially called "phases", but we just call it W* instead of P* here.
>>501357159im sure its doable at m0 but its a long grind. i believe many people will get it towards the end of the patch. caesar is a must tho.
is s11 piper lucy still a good team
>>501356928This one sounds the most fun because I like playing the Kot so I'll go with this. Thank you anon.
>>501357421no one cares, reallyIt's mostly M and C. Some like to make the distinction of having a c2 character, but the specific mindscape is called m2personally I could call it Y0Z3 if I want to
>No ambush mode this patchAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY FREE POLLYYYCHROOOOOMEEEESSS
I saw more /zzz/gers posting on the celebration sticky yesterday than /hsr/tranxisters and /gig/gers. Therefore I conclude our enemies are faggots who need to be crystalized
>>501357401You don't need to reach the 9999th level of the tower anon it's optional content there's nothing waiting for you there it's just there for whoever wants to challenge themselves for fun you don't need to engage with this particular content you don't like because it's optional
>>501357736but y?
>No one talking about the kino song for YanagiI hate you guys
>>501357479if you have sig and high lucy cinemas you don't even need ER anymorePersonally I don't think AM is worth unless you can confirm that the m6 piggies benefit from it.
>>501357401>ZZZ is a video game.Nothing gets past you, eh?
Does no one else find it weird, that Caesar, a character with a shield, can't deflect bullets while running? Just a silly thing I noticed.
>>501357607no but really, who hurt you
>>501357824Because it's bland like the agent.
>>501357824i dont listen to any of the songsI don't know why they waste money on them
>>501357824those times when she couldn't walk straight from exhaustion, I felt that
>>501357795How does it being optional put it above criticism?>>501357847The devs did by being schizophrenic retards who listen to every individual piece of feedback at once and are turning the game into a mess that doesn't appeal to anyone
>you only get 1000 dennies after the 25th floorSo this mode is only for masochists and/or people who whaled for their characters to see their full potential. This is not for normal players....like me.
>>501357838She can tho
EP ratings so farEllen: Polyphia /10Zhu: 6/10Qing: 5/10 I don't even remember it reallyRat: DQ/10Caesar: 2/10 should have been the song in the trailerBurnice: Burnice Burnice Burnice/10Yanagi: 8/10
>>501357479my m6 lucy is on hormone punk full carry build and she has just enough energy for permanent uptimei dont know if anomaly mastery works but i doubt energy will be an issue
>Doing floor 21>Doing well with the boss>You get surprise ganked by a 2nd boss out of fucking nowhere when it reaches 25% HP????What sadistic fuck designed this tower? Holy shit.
>>501357824I skipped through the song it's not really that good
>>501357963>Yanagi: 8/10l o lmao
Don't ask me what happened in 28 and 29F.., I got tired of resetting and just kept going. Had to finally git gud and stop getting hit by stupid things in 30F and that was really fun, now I see why peop QAle go for those clears. Qingyi is really good in this, I was trying other teams at first, but she really carried me there and I almost choked at the end but luckily she didn't die...I'll have to climb 26+ again at some point because this is really fun.
>>501357905ZZZ is Da Wei's passion project
>>501357824I mean its an okay Citypop inspired track. But it's literally another "Yanagi is a workaholic" thing. It's way behind Zhu Yuan and Qingyi's thematically as far as sentimental songs go.
Guys I am starting to think Yanagi is Soukakus mom
>>501357932Saying content is bad because you don't find it fun is not valid criticism
>>501357401fuck off masuda
>>501358093Take your meds
maybe i'll try 26 and beyond when I have mimi-chan
>>501357932It puts it above your retard level criticisms which boil down to you not liking it so it shouldn't exist.If it were mandatory you'd have a point. But it isn't, so you don't.
>>501357932your 'criticism' is that you can't cope with your own failure but you HAVE TO clear it even after being told it's optional and that's why you want it gone. because you suck.stop being childish and either get good enough to clear or deal with it
>they made an entire mode that's impossible without a specific character
>>501358146unless shes a dodge focused hypercarry she will struggle
>tower badtranslation: i'm a shitter that got filtered
>>501358095>>501358154>>501358173>>501358240This game is fucking doomed
>>501358214that's a big fella
Shut up retards
tower badto justify its difficulty, caesar has to be a standard character26-100 is basically undoable without her
>>501358354...
>>501358368literally a skill issue.
>>501358267I literally asked for tower though.
>>501358267The direction of the game is very vacant and schizophrenic right now, but tower being optional is not the reason why the game might be doomed. Every live-service game might have optional content that you're not forced to engage with. I don't like any of the arcade minigames and you don't see me having a meltdown that there's like 3 pulls of polys locked behind their achievements. I just don't play them. You too can learn to ignore optional content you don't like.
did they fix not being able to progress yanagi's story on pc yet?
you're missing an extra 750k dennies from clearing floors 26-100those are rewards you will NEVER get because you're too bad at a phone game
Where the fuck is miyabi drip??????
>>501358415post your floor 100 caesarless clear
Unironically this tower is clearable and not as bad compared to wuwa's end game tower mode. That shit is quite literally a whale check
>>501358368Umm yikes chud, don't be toxic. It's optional content so that means you are NOT allowed to criticize it. You must slurp it like a good goy otherwise you are a problematic transphobe and I will be forced to call upon the moderators of this subreddit to deal with you.
>>501358415pressing retry for 300 hours is not a skill
>why yes I do love it when 95% of my character's health disappears when an enemy touches them>why yes I love resetting a floor for the 100th time to get a perfect run >why yes I love it when I get absolutely nothing after the 25th floor >why yes I love it when I don't have a M2 Caesar when she's a must pick in this mode
Do you guys actually think Miyabi will live up to even half of the hype you fags are putting on her?
>wuwa out of nowhere
>>501358457wuwas tower isnt a whale check, just an echo check. Proper swap cancels will do half the work for you.
>>501358429>the game is bleeding casual players at a record pace>but the fact that every patch adds a new whalebait mode that alienates said casual players even further has absolutely nothing to do with it
Tower is a better SD/Ambush node.
>>501358469>the criticism>it's too hard so it literally shouldn't existKill yourself you insufferable scrub faggot, christ.
>>501358267Wow solid criticism you dumb cunt>Waaaaaaaa it isn't auto battle tier dogshit for 100% of the possible things to do waaaaaThe game is actually doomed if there's never any point to chasing best in slots because it's all mindnumbingly easy. Why would anyone spend time pulling for a 3% DPS increase if you can never really see it expressed?
>>501358457wuwa tower is same as shiyu u struggle at first then u get max level and it becomes piss easy, probably something that has to do with lvl+def formula
>>501358575the game is bleeding players because the core gameplay is fucking boring and theres nothing to do not because they add modes nobody cares about
>>501358431Yes, it was fixed like 10-12 hours ago. You can even read what was fixed by going to the menu and hitting notice and seeing the changes/issues that were fixed.
>>501358436>2 days of farming dennies
>>501358535No lol. I'll still pull her + sig though as long as her animations ripoff Vergil enough. I'm a sucker for that.
Was Miyabi drip marketed yet?
So is the system to unlock those bookshelf bangboo not in the game yet? Can't figure out where this Ridu Weekly shit is in any of the menus
What is the best team for Anton? I've seen in multiple websites that Grace/Rina is his best team but that's from 1.0. Does he have anything better now?
>>501358535>fluffy earsThat is already enough.
>>501358702next week
the tower is permanentcharacters in 2.x will be doing 4x the damage of characters now like how they are 4x better than launch characters
>>501358702Weeklies will be updated next week. That's where you will get this new currency.
>>501358535Just be Jane but Ice and Ill roll its not hard
>game was suppose to be DIFFERENT, SOVLFUL, and QUIRKY>same old no stake story, everyone's friends, safehorny designs, and bland MCsBros....? Were we deceived?
Huh, guys, I think discovered a bug. I was checking out >>501357838 comment, and was about to say, yes, she can block ranged attacks while running like most units with that can block ranged attacks.However, she apparently glitches out after blocking one ranged instance, and stops blocking ranged attacks after that evne if she's still running. To compare, I used Seth in the same team in VR training, and he can block these consecutive cannon shots from Guardian bot.This applies also to its machine gun fire, where if Ceaser stops blocking the shots due to the bullets missing, she just doesn't block any follow-up shots. I'll send my proof to Hoyo, see if think it's a real bug.I feel like it wasn't a problem last patch, but I usually rely on Ceaser's aegis anyway. Anyone else can doublecheck before I send it?
>>501357936And that's a good thing.This content wouldn't really be optional if you had to get through all 100 floors to get important resources. 25F is doable by any team at lvl 60 since you still have the gold/red flashes and bosses don't oneshot you yet.
>48 rolls until hard pityShould I say fuck it and just throw singles instead
just because of tower, for the time being I'll stop buying the monthly for wuwa and start paying my 5 neetbux for zzz
>>501358614>The game is actually doomed if there's never any point to chasing best in slots because it's all mindnumbingly easyGenshin was the most popular gacha in the world for 3 years while completely ignoring every single dumb retard begging for more stupid endgame modes. Coincidentally they finally added a second endgame mode this year to milk whales after the game started dying.Gacha games with fun gameplay that aren't dying don't need a new whale mode every single fucking patch.
>>501358786It is different, it is soulful, idk how quirky it is but yeah this is the best game I've played, not just gacha game.
>whale 100 bucks>yanagi on my first 10 rollwhat am i gonna do with the rest
because of the tower i've refunded all my purchases made to zzz and will be switching to another game
>>501358749Miyolohofo does it again.
>>501358909weaponor bibimers
>>501358909pull her ball
>>501358861>I'll stop buying the monthly for wuwaPlease anon their revenue will be in the minus...
i dont know brosno yellow/red flashcasual 10-15k hits out of nowhereincreasing daze/anomaly buildup resist2-4x higher hp poolsand all of this for 75 floorsim really excited to see someone clear it without caesar and present a honest data, of hours spent retrying
>>501358890>this is the best game I've played, not just gacha game.I actually like this game, but if you think this you seriously must have only played like 2 video games in your entire life.
>>501357824last thread retard
>>501358876HSR is the most popular gacha in the world and it's nothing but endgame with rapidly increasing HP pools
>>501358828See, >>501357942 had me thinking I was crazy, but I knew I had seen my Caesar getting shredded by machine gun soldiers. Thanks for confirming I'm still relatively sane. Have King tits.
>>501358909ball
>>501358909Spend it on the next impulse char.
>>501358719definitely grace so you can keep shock anomaly up so he gets more damage. After that, caesar or lucy should work. That or a stunner.
the reason why bloody palace is good... is because the gameplay is actually fun...
>>501358890>this is the best game I've played, not just gacha game.
>>501355738>oh hey, Yanagi's EP is up>literally tells us NOTHING new about her, it's just more WORK>also STILL no Miyabi dripbros
>>501358575>>the game is bleeding casual players at a record pacesource?
Only 30 floors left
Yanagi uterus...
>get hit once and end up with only a quarter of my hp left so I have to reset>enemies have so much hp to the point where it's draining my enjoymentthis is the 'bloody palace' you guys were hyping?
ZZZ is a fun game.
>>501357838Her shield has holes in it, so maybe it's just Caesar's fault for being stupid
Zhu's savior...soon
I can see the entire outline of her breast jesus fuck
So does Yanigga want some PEN stats to go with her skills or is it just better to stack more raw attack?
>>501359062who was floor 70and why arent you using avocadoboo
I'm close to guaranteeing Yanagi's ball. Not sure if I should go for it or just penmax with Fusion compiler.
>>501358945Nope, this game is the best I've played. I've played a bunch of games when I had a console too
>see red -> dash attack>see yellow -> dash attack or parry>do this for x minutes depending on how much money you spendholy FUCK BROS THIS IS SO GOOD
>>501358646>farming dennies>everHoly bricked account
>>501358642>theres nothing to doAnd why could this be? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the devs wasting their time implementing a new whalebait mode every month and going back to rework existing story comissions to remove the TV mode, all because a bunch of retards asked for it in the feedback form.>>501358971>HSR is the most popular gacha in the worldUhhh no it isn't. It only seems that way because we only get revenue charts for mobile and HSR is by far the most mobile friendly mihomo game, and it doesn't even top those charts most of the time despite them spending millions on advertising it every single month.
>>501359058The vibes bro just like the vibes I totally feel it
I’m quitting zzz for NTE because of Tower
>the whalebait mode in question
>>501359154I think this guy actions
>>501359062Answer me honestly because I don't want to get false hope. None of them are M0 right?
>>501359201NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSOMEONE STOP THIS MAN
>>501359161>see red>see yellow
>got Yanagi on roll 11>will probably spend 10 or 20 more rolls to try and get her sig>nothing else to roll on until Ellen/MibibibibibibbibibibibibibibiAyup
>>501357512I mean, even though she is super busted on all fronts, the quest showed that she is actually insecure as shit for some reason
>>501359201I believed bwo
>>501359201how is his one billy faster than my whole fucking team clearing floor 15why do I deal no damage
>>501359121bras really do not exist in new eridu...
>CaesarYou didnt beat the game(floor)
>>501359170>No no no it isn't!!! Just because it shows on the most common and popular platform that it is, that's actually a lie!!You should spend more time practicing dodging and less time whining on the internet
I got pushed out of bounds
>>501359353billy is unironically fucking cracked. Dude is secret S tier as long as he has the disks and is M6.
The Tower? I TANKED that.
>>501359353Whaled ball and good disks.
I swear, you guys are so bitchy. Every single update, it’s either:>1.) “Uhhhhh, I completed everything after no lifing it for an entire day and night. Why can’t they keep me entertained 24/7 like an MMO this shit is going to EOS.”>2.) “This new content is too tedious and hard! Obvious fucking whaletactic trying to bleed players dry ZZZ is garbage.”Can’t you faggots enjoy and appreciate anything?
Is it bad that I can't beat floor 28 with Qingyi Caesar Billy
>>501359170>muh mobilebuckbrokengacha across the board is RETVRNING to it's glorious roots of filtering turboshitters like yourself
>>501359353You have brain damage.
>>501358890>this is the best game I've played, not just gacha gameThat's kinda sad.
As we get more and more chapters, it surprises me that Belle is even a playable character, Wise is the one always doing the MC-ing and belle is more of a silly, cute sidekick sister.
Since the tower crybabies can't come up with any actual criticism of the mode, here's some:The movesets of individual characters are too distinct to just throw a bunch of the same enemies, with the same resistances and movesets in a super-hard gauntlet and expect it to feel fair across everyone's accounts. I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to consistently dodge Shadow Jane's windup attack where she does 3 dashes into a divekick with Burnice and Piper because neither of them get enough clearance on their dodge counter to avoid the slashes consistently, and you can't do 3 dodges in a row since the slashes are timed to land in your dodge cooldown window after you dodge twice. After switching to Qingyi, it was pathetically easy since her dodge counter has 1 billion i-frames and can just avoid all 3 slashes automatically.The resistances also don't help, since while there's no real time limit, the longer it takes for you to kill a boss, the more likely you are to make errors, so keeping the Shiyu shill resistances in this mode doesn't help the "character check" feeling of it. I think it is possible to clear with mostly anyone if you're persistent enough but they could have put more effort into making sure the movesets were doable with every character, and maybe just dump the resistances and make the damage entirely agnostic so certain bosses don't feel biased towards specific limiteds. Ultimately, it is still a gacha though, so they want to you to feel like you need the shiny limited characters, and it's clearly working on the retards here despite it being an optional mode.With all that said, it can be refined. I think the general starting point of the mode is sound and I hope it gets updates to smooth out some of the issues. Better to try to seek improvement than just seething that it's too hard.
>>501359398>>501359461Go ahead and post your mobile tower clear.
>>501359473ESLbro...
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>>501359201>4 minuteswhat a legend
>>501359161>see
>>501359408I am a free man
>doompost caesar as unneeded because game easy>release content that she's good in>shitpost caesar because she's good at ityou are all just gay and retarded
>>501359527There are no issues with his sentence, ESLgod...
>>501359154At least 3 of the games in your screenshot are better than this one though.
>>501359497>The movesets of individual characters are too distinct to just throw a bunch of the same enemies, with the same resistances and movesets in a super-hard gauntlet and expect it to feel fair across everyone's accounts. I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to consistently dodge Shadow Jane's windup attack where she does 3 dashes into a divekick with Burnice and Piper because neither of them get enough clearance on their dodge counter to avoid the slashes consistently, and you can't do 3 dodges in a row since the slashes are timed to land in your dodge cooldown window after you dodge twice. After switching to Qingyi, it was pathetically easy since her dodge counter has 1 billion i-frames and can just avoid all 3 slashes automatically.That's a lot of words to say "I'm bad at dodging"
>>501356024I don't play any other gacha games and never have, I call characters units because of past experience with Fire Emblem mostly but also because it's shorter and easier to type.
>>501359497interesting considering i did floor 49 jane with piper and was consistently dodging her triple strike attackping issue?
>>501359512how about this one bro >>501359201
>>501359626>mihoyo makes a gamemode thats completely impossible without a specific limited character>retard thinks its fine and not completely jewish and retarded
>>501359578>Eous just doing a whole ass split
Im glad i rolled for QY and Ceasar KING.
>>501358939Just fucking play Ys games on nightmare instead of fighting the same handful of enemies, it's a much more satisfying game experience.
>>501359635>hislol
>>501359502cute and funny
>>501359626>>doompost caesar as unneeded because game easyOnly retards did this, anyone with IQ above room temp could tell they would inevitably use her existence as an excuse to add cancer content where you get 1shot without her
>>501359353you can just check his buildyour discs are probably just bad
>>501359754What?
>>501359668>>501359685I literally spent 2 hours trying to figure out a consistent strategy to dodge that attack with my Burnice/Piper/Lucy team and I just gave up. If someone has a video example of how they approach it I'd love to see it and be proven that I'm just trash, but that specific situation felt very unfair for that team. I'm sure there are other small moments like this from floor 20+ but after that point I just used Caesar because I was tired and I wanted the rewards.
>one of the new modes for an update is just a way for big spenders to show offsince when did mihomo stoop this low
>>501359457no, most can't reach 15, Billy needs Zhu's engine for the gay HP bloat past floor 25
>>501359249NTA but currently I'M on floor 50 with the exact same team and plan to push further todayall of them are M0 for me but qingyi and caesar are sigged (zhu is using saarlight)
>>501359353>how is his one billy faster than my whole fucking team clearing floor 15It isn't, that pic is editedTomorrow I'm gonna edit a ben solo clear and spam it every time this retard spams his, we'll see how he likes it
>>501359590Truly, this is the zenless zone.
>>501359668nta but the actual answer to Shadow Jane's triple slash and drop kick *is* to dodge counter it. Some characters have better dodge counters for it than others. Corin's for example, will get her slapped. Jane's is obviously the best, but if you don't have her, well...
>>501359578this webm should have the kinect han solo song playing I think
>>501359803ESLbro...
>>501359872you know when dawei cried and talked about returning to his roots
>>501359872There's no need to be so salty that I have the cash to get Billy ok
>>501359717>completely impossiblelmao
>>501358939BillyGOD did it again bwo >>501359201
>>501359809Sounds like you need to git gud. You call other people "tower crybabies" but here you are admitting to being bad.
I can't beat the fucking towerim uninstalling, the game was already boring as fuck and if this the direction they are going theres no point of playing
>>501359771Pretty much this, anyone that has played any prior gacha games knows that when a meta shield / mit char comes out its not something to be overlooked.
can I just roll ellen pleasewhats the hold up
>>501359923Yeah, it was probably the one moment for ME where the tower felt like an actual character check. Either you have a character with a cracked dodge counter or you use Caesar... or you just accept eating half your HP whenever she pulls that attack out. Under normal gameplay it's not a big deal since it doesn't do that much damage, but when it can potentially one-shot you if you eat all 3 slashes, it's a lot more imperative you find a way to actually avoid it.
>>501359973Then where are the rankings and raids?
>>501360074>im uninstallingYou and thousands of other players but it's okay, the whales are enjoying it and that's what matters. Soon they will have the game all to themselves (for a few months before EoS)
>>501359590Is that the Outer Ring?
>>501359872Returning to roots tourist gweilo. Did you think genshit was always hoyo's standard?
>>501359502shes cute. A shame about her VA being replaced three times. The first was really good, but each iteration is worse than the last.
>>501359872Are you feeling "excessive anxiety", anon? I think you should play Genshin Impact instead.
>>501360053show me your no caesar floor 100 clear bro
Can confirm that billyfag is legit he posted solo clear videos here before
>>501360142>Either you have a character with a cracked dodge counter or you use CaesarOr you get good at dodging. It's 100% skill based.
Verification not required.
Things have not gone well.
>>501360063I'm not admitting to anything though? I even asked the thread on the night of the patch if anyone had a strategy for dealing with it, and all of the responses I got were character specific (all characters with excellent dodge counters, like Koleda and Qingyi). Like I said, I'm open to being proven wrong, but I couldn't find a way to do it consistently with those characters.>You call other people "tower crybabies" but here you are admitting to being bad.Yes, because I can recognize the mode has potential and can be improved rather than just crying it's a whale check or that it should be removed because it's too hard. There's a difference. Even being willing to admit that my own skill might be the problem is different from these shitters.
>>501359146Ballerina twins and I use officer Cui in the chain attack, he deals a lot of damage. >>501359249Only Qingyi is 1/6 but I have all their signature w-engines.
>>501360172I ask for them every survey, if only for the seethe here if they ever added leaderboards
fuck floor 24, literally no hit until the second boss came and keep ruining the flow
>>501360249No. Just get good bro LMAO
>game was comfy before>whalefags had to ruin it for everyonethis is quickly becoming hi3
>>501360284None needed, King.
>>501359973Honkai Impact 3 abyss used to have competitive shit and rankings.You could sabotage other players with traps and bombs to lower their scores or impede their progress.Eventually they got removed of course but ranking itself still remained (or at least it did until I stopped playing) so you could still see who the big epeen players areI cant believe Nu-Hoyo doesnt even have rankings just for the community to have something to reference and talk about
so this is why mihoyo refused to add any "hard" game modethe amount of crybabys who can't clear and uninstalls because they miss 10 polychromes and 5 tuners LMAO
retarded questions: i read up on both pen stats and want to use my lovely mommy rina with corin and stuff more but>only pen % does anything and pen (non %) is useless right?>if im using rina with qingyi and corrin, do i give corrin or whatever DPS i have 2-4pc puffer or is that retarded?
>>501360286I donno, I think that'd depend on who you ask.
Yanagi Verdict?
>>501360284I HEAR THE MUSIC IN MY HEAD
>>501358786I love the Saturday morning cartoon story
>>5013603841 million disorders with piper is pretty crazy ngl. Neither of them are very well built either.
>>501360294>he's still typing out essays to cope with being bad
>ju-just play as good as the top 0.000001% of autistic nerds with no life and no pussy bwo!>this new mode is totally fine bwo!
>>501360384Truly a zzz agent.
All these people saying tower is good or bad are missing why I hate it. The fact that it ISN'T actually hard pisses me off. No, just slapping a 10x HP/damage modifier on an already irritating enemy doesn't make it hard. All that does is make it a tedious "reset until you get it right" mode. I wanted to see stuff like old enemies getting brand new moves or new enemies that require actual strategies to beat (e.g. enemies like rampant brute that completely change if you do certain things).
may Allah forgive me for asking this, but how is r**dit feeling about the tower? are they seething as much as the anons in the thread?
I'm quitting this game and moving on to the best phone game availabletetris
>>501360460
>>501360318Hardest floor in my opinion. Anything + Farbauti is retarded.
>>501360450Okay, so you're just a faggot who doesn't want to actually engage with any meaningful discussion of the mode, cool. Post your floor 100 clear then.
the tower is fine if you rolled all the top tier limited agents recently released
>>501360317At this point I'm tempted to start asking for more whale modes with leaderboards in surveys too, just to kill the game faster.
pompey in floor 50 is fucking aidsthe red attack yellow attack system is showing how dogshit it is the second the flashes go awayhe just starts swinging wildly and you can only parry half the attacks, if you guess wrong you just diereally cool
>>501360490mahjong is better
Just started tower. I don’t think my Caesar shield ever went down, but I’ve noticed I’m taking some chip damage anyway by the end of a round. Do enemies have any anti-shield moves or am I just blind and didn’t notice my shield drop?
I like how people are saying Tower is the death knell of the game and complete whalebait but, like...You don't have to push floor 100. You can push 15 and chill or 25 if you're feeling spicy and call it a day. It's permanent, to boot. You can just come back to it later when you have better disks, characters or thumbs. The only thing holding you back from clearing it is your own impatience. If some dude can clear 25 with Billy in under 5m, you should be able to manage 15/25 without Caesar.
gacha and difficulty doesn't mixthe tower just needed to give you specific characters with discs you can't change
>>501360575you're just blindalso you will be crying soon like the rest of the fags ITT for it being too hard
>>501360562Just disengage and let him throw his tantrum in peace. He won't chase you since that attack string is a million years long.
>>501360516I solo cleared floor 100 with anby but I'm not gonna post it because I don't need to. Everyone who isn't a total shitter knows it's easy. Just because you're bad doesn't mean everyone else is.
My rating on the released EP:Ellen: 10/10 literally t0 meta of EPsZhuyuan: chinkslop 0/10Qingyi: chinkslop 0/10Caesar: 10/10Burnice: 10/10Yanagi: ywnbaj 0/10
Does Avocaboo actually help
>the TVslop event happens in hollow zero>the event gives you a bunch of character and general resonium>NONE of them gets registered in the compendium after you get themMan I thought this was finally my chance to unlock the ones for characters I don't have. I fucking hate this.
>>501360587>>501360484>death knellThis is literally the only place where I see a FEW people seething over it. Twitter and reddit thinks the format is pretty good if anything.
>>501360368flat pen becomes completely useless really fast so only focus on %you could just slot a pen% disc 5 and go with 2p fanged metal instead for corin
>>501360571I hope they add both tetris and mahjong to the arcade. I watched akagi and then read the manga (when it ended) but I still don't know how to play it and you can't cheat in video games
>>501360562i liked how in 1st phase he just randomly whips ur ass for 5k with no real windup or time to react evenmust be so retarded without caesar
>>501360587It's more the fact they even had the gall to do it. The game also has a huge issue where it's suffering from "let's just make the enemy into a super sponge that instant kills if he even farts near you." That's absolutely terrible game design.
>>501359497At least IMO, my biggest issue with floors 25+ on tower is the Ambush "mechanic." Certain enemies really just don't seem like they were designed with a lack of attack flashes in mind, the visual clarity gets really bad. For most of the enemy types (older ones especially) it's fine but I can't help but feel like certain enemies don't have the same quality control as far as making sure their attacks are easy to read without the flashes. Pic related for example felt way harder than it was surely ever meant to be, solely because his small animations without their flashes get covered up by the player's attack effects and models the entire time.The rest is fine/in-offensive, everything hitting like a truck feels inevitable so I don't have any complaints per se even if I think it's a little bit of a boring way to add spice.
>>501360562have you tried uhhhh idk dodging?
>>501358890I thought this for the first two months or so but the shit updates have worn me down. Live service was a mistake.
>caesar fucking flopped big time>devs have a temper tantrum and make an entire mode where she is mandatorykek
>>501360757>Caesarpottery
>>501360479This would probably be the direction I would ask for if this mode got refined/updated in future patches. Rather than just dumping the same enemies from the rest of the game with the same resistances and juiced up stats, actually build some interesting movesets that you have to play around that reward some observation and problem solving.No one here is actually interested in discussing how it can be improved though, you just have scrubs crying that it shouldn't exist because it's hard and try hard smug faggots who think anyone who doesn't think it's the greatest thing ever is just bad at the game.
I regret to inform you all that I have yet to be able to clear the tower and may indeed be missing out on a pulls worth of polyAs such I will be shutting the servers down in about 20 minutes or so, depending on how long my halloumi fries take
>>501360687>twitter and reddit say it's good, that means it's goodPlease tell me you're not being serious. This shit is beyond parody.
uhmmm your Ben?
verdicts on Yanagi?????????
>>501360889strong
>>501360479>No, just slapping a 10x HP/damage modifier on an already irritating enemy doesn't make it hard.It makes it hard for f2ps and easy for whales. That is the intended effect.
>>501360479See, this is a take I can get behind. It being hard isn't the issue. The enemies being spongy is. I actually rather like Tower and I agree with this. Tower is just gonna be something I push in my spare time to test out new characters down the line. It seems to be the perfect place to stresstest them.
>I solo cleared floor 100 with anby but I'm not gonna post it because I don't need to. Everyone who isn't a total shitter knows it's easy. Just because you're bad doesn't mean everyone else is.
Do these people seething over 10k dennies per hard stage actually know there are multiple pulls gated behind Arcade shit that's much worse to get?
>>501360889op until the next character releases and shits on herso same as every character
>>501360363they honestly should stop reading to random suggestions and just do their own thing
Caesar skippers do not exist... right?
>>501360649>ywnbajyou will never be a jew?
was this part really necessary?
just got the latest feedback from NGA and Tieba. Hearing a lot of "你应该改进" about the tower, probably going to have a big impact on the future direction of the game.
>>501360889Feels like shit to play, don't like her personality
>>501360801>he didn't roll for the best unit in the gameholy bricked
>>501360129she's scheduled for next version iircalso sucy sex
>>501360370I also got kotted at 77 before Jane. I've lost every 50/50 I've pulled on now and it's left me destitute pre-Mibibi.
>>501360991Are you actually using her stances properly?
>>501360926Other than some gay achievements for hound and snake, vampire survivor is genuinely fun to play.
>>501360937Holy shit, he did it, he figured out the gacha formula.
>>501360668roll for the characters next time gweilo
>>501360926No, because they just want a reason to be upset that there's combat content in the game that you can't clear while half asleep.
Was at the construction site chewing out an internLazy bastard went on a 2 hour break and the accountant just so happened to catch himOnce I finally cooled off I got to the issue at hand"Where you been?" I said."Huh, I'm right next to you!" The accountant said, jokingly"You stupid fucking bigger"
>>501360896cute soukaku
>fell for the don't roll weapons meme>now characters fucking suck and are useless with cope weaponsthanks a lot guys
>>501360926Really? You really can't tell why people complain about the tower but don't complain about arcade?
>>501361029Aren't they just passive buffs?
>>501359809im really not sure what u mean by thisi dont know, like, just press shift? jane is hard but not a character check by any means
>>501359201how's the build look like?>check uiddifferent server
>>501361106They change her moveset and empower her autos.
>>501361053Skill issue, just whale for all characters and their weapons and you won't have a problem. Tower isn't whalebait btw.
>>501361126nah Jane is a character checkthe character she's checking is called Qingyi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPjKiWox1oAthe music was so fucking peak this patch
>>501361174bro you can see her charging her shit, just walk away nigga and let her whiff.
>>501361106IIRC the jumpy stance has more I-frames while the slashy stance does more damage but don't quote me on that.
>>501361126>iframe abuseyou didn't beat the game
>>501361126Whenever I tried this with Piper I'd just get fucking smacked by the third dash. Maybe my timing was just off. I'll accept this but my point about the elemental weaknesses/resistances still stands. There is literally no reason for that shit to be in the tower if it's meant to be a mode focused on skill.
>>501361213show proof you didn't abuse iframes
BROS?? real or not??
>>501361202Qingyi can stun her like 70% of the time out of her animations
>>501361193Why is it "unreleased" If the music was so good?
>>501361053Tower doesn't have a time limit, there's no reason to fuss over 5-10% dps differences.
>>501361126This is 100% luck, her third dash should've hit you but it just whiffed for no reason.
>give enemy more health>complain it's just an hp sponge>give enemy new movesets>complain they're just "annoying" not hard>make enemy fast and spastic>complain they're too schizo and unfun>make enemy slow and sluggish>complain they're too slow and unfun>give enemy interesting gimmick >complain it's just a "forced" check>give enemy a timer you have to beat>complain it's just time attack and nothing else>give enemy big damage>complain it's just one-shot slop>give enemy unique mechanic>complain it's just a character check for whalesyou will always find something to complain
>>501361258>he's so lame that everyone gets him for freeI'd die of laughter.
>>501361258>free homo to get girls to playyep its real
I'm retarded and it's likely a skill issue on my end 100% but is there something with qingyi's dodge? It was really apparent in the tower>Fight the new midboss plus the not!rockbear add the cones and the ballet twins >Do constant dodges (and dodge counters obviously)>She will sometimes just do a regular ass normal at the most weird times when I'm dodge & dodge countering something consecutive (example the rockbear doing it's stomping march and the midboss doing its non lightning infused combos)Anyone else experience this or am I just mashing like a monkey without realizing it?
>>501361258Probably not but I hope it's true so I can bench Grace once and for all.
>>501361258fake
>>501361234use dodge counters too, not just dodgesthey have Iframes as well
>>501361258it's complete bullshit but if it somehow isn't i will not redeem
banging . . . BOOS!
>>501361140>>501361206Not sure I could tell the difference between them. Her normals feel slow and her ex isn't exciting. I don't like that burnice, yanagi, and jane all just hold down a button to unload their meter.
>>501361258are you that gullible?
>>501361258Fucking checks out, honestly>HSR gave away it's lamest male character>Wuwa gave away it's lamest male character>now ZZZ
>>501361258100% real, just like the free ayaka in 2.0
>>501361258Yeah, free S-rank. Totally.
hrtg_diluc would not lie to us, guys.
>>501361387>dr. ratio>lamest male character
>>501361310Consider the following:>make enemies not a giant sponge where I'm sitting there wailing on them for like 5 minutes>do not give enemies in a mobile phone game Radahn's pre-nerf move setRampant brute is nearly perfect. Just put some sort of "enemy can't use the same move/combo twice in a row" rule and you're all set.
>>501361348I was using the dodge counter and what I described was happening. I will retry it later and confirm that I'm just dogshit though.
>>501361453true, there's a lot of competition for that title in hsr
>>501361193damn, they have to reuse some of theseI only really got to appreciate the virtual revenge one because I got stuck at the bugged machine
>>501361258>called HRT_diluc>has a little white girl elf as a pfpI don't trust pedotrannies.
>>501361454>make the game pisseasy because I am a shitter
>>501361387If you don't like Ratio, we can't be friends.
>>501361302>he doesn't know he can chain dodge counters
>>501361258it would make more sense to have a free miyabi at this point since she hasn't even been drip marketed
>>501361258my C36 Anton isn't feeling so good bros..
>>501361454I'll just complain that the game's too easy.
>>501361454Rampant Brute is probably my favorite enemy to fight in the game, he's basically the perfect balance of aggressive but learnable for this game's combat. It's hard to say every enemy should be like him since that'd be boring but a lot of the earlier enemies rely too much on obnoxious stally attacks for my liking. The doppelgangers are all mostly well done IMO but Pulchra can fuck off with her UI mode, literally serves no purpose other than to waste your time.
>>501361302okay i tried it again, this time staying still without WASD inputs so jane chan doesnt missim still not sure what ur issue is
>>501361302 Summary:Attacks 1-5: Clearly missed.Attacks 6-9: Missed due to dodging (skill issue).Attacks 10-11: Very close, but small body and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.Attack 12: Likely didn't actually start because Jane was already stunned
i feel like im barely tickling hp bars and makes the combat feel really unsatisfying
>>501361551>just release the most anticipated unit in gacha history for free brothey're not doing that, they'd miss out on too much money
>>501361234>>501361302I think you anons may not be taking advantage of the huge amount of iframes you get from doing a dodge -> attack. If you just plain dodge during her first dash and don't attack (even if it doesn't hit her), you're gonna get smacked by the second or third dash.Also, remember that dodging is not your only source of iframes -- Almost every character has some amount of the in their BA/hold BA/EX/etc.A good example is Burnice's EX, which has iframes at the start and when you press EX again to double shot.
>>501361126Wait, people are having problema with this attack? well at least they are learning how to play the game
>>501361551that would make infinitely less sense since miyabi is more sought aftergacha only give away characters that they can tell have low hype
>>501361601Just git gud bro (and by git gud I mean swipe)
>>501361516You can make the game hard and fun without resorting to mindlessly cranking up the stats so every hit is an instant kill. Doing this requires actually competent devs though, and so far ZZZ's have shown they're amateur at best.
Post em
>>501361510That's actually Kazuha bwo
>>501361584NOOOOO DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>501361526I feel bad for anyone who doesn't have / use Soldier 11. The most kino character by far. God I hope the rest of Obol is like her
>>501361258antonkyodais,,, owari da...
why does my burnice have zero energy
>>501361674my soldier 11 feels like shit without her sig
holy fuck...............
>>501361701you didn't roll her sig
>>501361674I don't know what's so "kino" about dealing so little damage that your enemy's HP bar doesn't even visibly go down after 10 seconds of attacking
>>501361387Ratio is based b
>>501361387ZERO POINTS
>>501361701Use the 2 piece energy regen set, with energy main stat on disk 6 for max comfy
>>501361126>>501361615FWIW part of what I wanted to stimulate out of the thread was people sharing their strategies and approaches for bosses in the tower, rather than just mindlessly going back and forth about whether it's too hard or not. It is much more productive if people actually try to offer real advice than just complaining that it's too difficult or that people are bad at the game. Thanks for the Piper examples too.
>Genshin has Archons>HSR has Emanators>ZZZ has ________fill in the blank
>>501361794Void Hunters.
>>501361258No way.
>>501361258I am NOT REDEEEEMing
>>501361713Just fucking kill me already.
>>501361713I'm going to sex her on day 1
Ah, commence the homo tranny raid. Right on queue.
>>501361794Cunning hares.
>>501361258does this mean we are walking the same path as hsr instead of genshin? it's unironically depressing since they want to follow the footsteps of powercreepyour jane doe, caesar, burnice, yanagi every single one of them will be worthless in less than a year, i hope they stop the powercreep man
>>501361713This is going to be the final nail in the game's coffin.
>>501361258>The only S rank on the banner given away for freeThey are speedrunning into EOS.
>>501361713explain to someone who doesn't play genshin?
>>501361794Billy.
>>501361713Man what a zenless zone that zero is.
>>501361713>kill off everybody with Part 2 of HI3>bring all the characters back in every subsequent gameWhy can't mihoyo make a new game with all new characters? All the doppelgangers and "expy" shit is getting tiring
WHERE IS THE MIBIBI LEAK?!jkwfedghcvghuio2fhiopcv hniopl!!!
>>501361898>your jane doe, caesar, burnice, yanagi every single one of them will be worthless in less than a yearBut /zzz/ told me that powercreep doesn't exist and that my ellen dealing a third of the damage of any anomaly character with equivalent investment is a skill issue
>>501361945Mihoyo likes expies. And they like wanking them even more
>>501361945youre gonna get an absolute dogshit annoying character who willl be overpowered cause its the company main girl for 10 years.
I think after idols and/or obol is a good point in time to quit zzz.
>>501361945Wrong game, that's Honkgay Yurimpact 3.
>>501361994Anomaly, especially disorder spam, blows the fuck out of regular attackers.
I've played Yanagi's demo twice and have a really hard time figuring out wtf I'm doing wrong or right. I hate teleporting shit, I think its a skip for me... which sucks because I really like OL cakes.
>>501361945Genshin isn't even mentioned there
>>501361794bangboos
Who is the Raiden Bosenmori Shogun Mei of ZZZ?
does the piece of shit boss in floor 24 even have any tell on the blue attacks?
>>501362080yanagi
>>501361945Not genshin, it's honkaislop. If honkai troondevs get their hands on this game enough to force one of their shitty selfinsert characters in, it's over.
>>501361713Damn... do people like... really?
>>501360870Let me be the first to tell you that he won't actually save you, if you're expecting his shield to offer you survivability. Even with more defense than most builds, Proto-Punk, and Core F, his shields don't actually change any damage threshholds. Lucy/Burnice still died in one hit to most attacks, and in two hits still to anything that didn't oneshot outright. The shield is essentially just a conditional buff, you have +16% crit so long as you don't get hit and don't once you do. Ben himself does alright damage and his crit buff is really good if you're already a bit saturated on attack (running him next to Caesar or Lucy) but you can't really run him just for protection.There is value defensively still, Defensive Assist is actually quite strong. People used to doing efficient quickswappy rotations in Shiyu probably got caught off guard a few times with their characters getting instagibbed before they could leave after a swap. Defensive Assist is *as the name would imply) unironically great at reactively protecting characters during hard swaps and having more charges via the reduced cost does help. But it's hard when Seth/Ben don't really fit into most comps, both are already somewhat limited by their faction+element additional ability reqs and it's not really worth running an un-synergistic character just for 2~3 more defensive assists per fight.
>>501362080nekomata
>>501361945That's not Genshin, retardpag
>>501362003and I guess her gimmick is that she likes ramen, the void hunter looks like her and since they mention noodles they're related?I guess I can see what's going on
>>501362080yanagi apparently, same voice across chinese
>>501362080Sjal
>>501362080unironically yanagi
she's so sex
>>501362046For now. They will just make enemies that are super resistant to anomaly later to shill retardedly op crit and stunner units again, and the pendulum will swing back and forth until eos
>>501356571>A nomal generic bland song for a nomal generic bland woman that sees herself as a normal generic bland woman.The video isn't made you for.>>501356729>People love normal generic bland women!Check the comments on the Japanese video. They're going nuts for her because the video reminds them of when Japan was at its peak. It reminds them of the end years of that great era and the early Heisei era.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJA2MBrFNowThe video is literally the Chinese whispering in their ear>see? we remember when your country was great, what do you say? join us, the Americans will only flood you with dancing metro monkeys and make your streets unsafe for children>the Americans are the reason why your economy crashed to begin with
>>501362048>have a really hard time figuring out wtf I'm doing wrong or rightwhat is so hard about keeping up two buffs and spending energy?not saying you have to do it perfectly but understanding the idea behind the kit shouldnt be this hard
>>501361258FUCKING KEK YANAGI PULLERS
>>501362048The trick is to familiarize yourself with her N3, N4, and N5 animations (for both stances). Her gameplay is basically doing those on loop using her EX skill.e.g. EX>N3>N4>N5>EX>N3>N4>N5That's basically it.
>>501362080Roland
23 left!!
>>501361794Ben Bigger.
>>501362153>me when the hrt finally kicks in
>>501362172>/pol/cel too retarded to realize Japans economic boom was only thanks to USASad!
Any Yanagi bros know how her parry works? Sometimes I press special to do it and it just doesn't parry, other times it works?
>>501361327Yeah I'm pretty sure her dodge is just broken. Sometimes when I dodge counter I'll even take damage on the first frame as if I don't have invul from perfect dodging. >dodge & dodge countering something consecutiveYou may be spamming a little too hard in this instance. A second dash will give you a dash attack instead of a dodge counter, although it's weird I never have to think twice about spamming dodge with any other character.
>>501359353I don't know how your team looks, but Billy scales with how agressive enemies are thanks to his strong Dodge Counters and can deal with multiple enemies at the same time because of the piercing properties of various of his attacks. Having less characters probably cuts down on some time spent on certain animations too.>>501361134Not at my computer but here you go.PEN% really helped since most enemies are level 70. If you don't have Brimstone Starlight Engine works fine by the way.
>>501360460Corin-chan, you better hurry up and git gud... Or you know what comes next.
>>501362290has to be after her N3, N4 or N5
Does the icon change at all after 30 or is it just the number? Might try to do funny 69 number if its just a dick waving icon. I need something to do until Lighter anyway.
>>501361258>>501361387>Decide to give limited male because game flop so hardNot like this ZZZbros...
>>501361994powercreep definitely exists if they start handing out free shit this early, genshin is much more stingy than hsr and zzz and that was the case since 1.0, but that same stinginess allowed little to no powercreep, 1.0 characaters are still perfectly viablebut here we are following hsr's trajectory, where they give a bunch of free shit but they will make new characters so strong and the endgame so hard that any character at m0 will become utter trash after a year or lessthis sucks not only because of pay2win but also because i like the characters i roll and i don't want to be forced to bench them just because the new toys are stronger...genshin is trash and i hate it, but at least that game has insane pull value, they managed to make a profitable game without making old units obselete
>>501362339ESLgod...DOOMgod...
Will you redeem the free HOMO?
>>501362348>i like the characters i roll and i don't want to be forced to bench themYou and everyone else, which is why every new banner sells less than the previous despite the character being stronger. I don't know why mihomo thinks they can get away with this level of powercreep in a game that is primarily targeted at PC/console audiences.
How fake and gay is this?
>>501360460Corin: Prepare to get raped edition.
>>501362348>genshin is much more stingy than hsr and zzzwhat are you talking aboutthe premium currency for an average player is about the same in all three games give or take maybe 10 rolls per patch, but genshin is infinitely more f2p friendly thanks to a more flexible combat system>>501362445its been posted already SLOWPOKE
(You) retards are way too confident that were getting a free S-rank this early in the game's lifespan. This isn't /wuwa/ lmao
>>501362293What the fuck? That was happening to me too. I will literally dodge on the first frame and still get slapped somehow. But for the latter I probably panic mashing too much. Though I do think there is something genuinely up with her dodge. If feels way too finnicky and I never had this issue with shit like Ellen or any other character who zooms around the field
Yep, looks like Mihoyo signed the deal with doritopope to give ZZZ awards in the upcoming TGA.
Don't care, I want all the expies since I didn't play HI3 and I got baited into playing HSR thinking it'd be a similar setting but t was just wuxiaslop/chinkwank from the beginning.I want Kiana.I want Bronya.I want Seele.I want Mei.
>>501362348hsr has such illusion because you cant win timer with your skill and have to rely purely on numbersshiyu/abyss/moc are balanced towards casual audience, but in hsr the difference between a sweatlord and a casual is much much less than in zzz and even genshin, so powercreep is more apparent
>>501362515>Didn't play hi3Why do you care then?
>>501362042but kianner is from flyme2themoon
>>501362515what
>>501362293It's not a bug so much as, on Qingyi you're frequently dodging out of something that already has super armor. On other characters you'd be getting hit and stunned but because you're coming out of super armor, you get hit (tanking it) and then dash into the still lingering hurtbox.How you can get hit and also get the Dodge Counter at the is the same reason you can Dodge Counter into parry. Attacks have long active frames and the Dodge Counter itself only cares that you're dodging an active hurtbox, even if it has already hit you miliseconds prior.
https://litter.catbox.moe/98lr7x.mp4Can someone crop Ellen butt shake from 0:04?Pretty please
>>501362445think for yourself, man, nobody here knows anything more than you about this.
>>501362487HSR did the same with Dr Ratio
>>501362572Because friends baited me into playing HSR showing me all the cool anniversary shorts for HI3.
>>501362589I don't know what that isare past honkgay games even relevantwho the fuck remembers anymore
>start playing because Yanagi is SEXO>newcutie>everyone says you need Burnice>not entire sold on the game yet so I just use the free pulls to lord up the pity for Yanagi>story kinda sucks>so much reading>so much clicking shit>cutscenes are cool>so as fuck grind>get Grace instead of the Electric Maidu SEXO for Yanagi>Grace play style fucking sucks>Get Alex>His playstyle is more fun and I hate that he's a Fury for muh JUSTICE and muh HONOR.. but his kit is fun and he's electric and works with Yanagi so fuck it>60 rolls in and no Yanagi>slow grind>SLOW grind>SLOW GRINDaaaaAAAAAAAAAHHHHH this fucking sucks. What the fuck happened to those 160 FREE pulls from the fucking ads I keep seeing on my phone!?!? This is so slow it hurts my souls. I play for 5 hours and it feels like I'm not progressing and I'm getting breadcrumb Poly currency. Not to mention I missed Jane and this is a mihoyo game for no Jane rerun for a whole year. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>501360460But I cleared 30f with you.Corinlove.Also Corinrape.
>>501362659Not reading that, make it shorter
>>501362445They'd rather give away a free homo than dripfeed miyabi
>>501362475>the premium currency for an average player is about the same in all three games give or take maybe 10 rolls per patch, but genshin is infinitely more f2p friendly thanks to a more flexible combat systemoutside of new region patches genshin gives 65/70 rolls on average for f2p players, hsr and zzz average at a 100
>>501362282>Japans economic boom was only thanks to the USAThe crash too. They only helped them because they thought they couldn't compete with them. When Japan destroyed American car companies by outcompeting, the Americans suddenly started hating Japan, the WW2 memes came back with a vengeance. Hell, today you can see echoes of what Japan went through if you look at how Americans react to China breathing down their necks with the computer chips, cars, space technology, etc, you seething like a little shit when you're reminded of history is proof enough of that. That's why China is making joke games like picrelated, they know who broke Japan's neck back in the 90's and they remind them every now and then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2gT7_e-Kc4tl;dr you don't know history, all you know is how to screech like a buffoon
>free homohaha who is the homo game now
>>501361258REAL????DAWEI I FUCKING LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>501362714why are you excluding new zones and hsr/zzz do not average 100+ you dumb pag
>>501362659who the fuck is alex
>>501362659I'll never understand people who get into a game but skip past the story and since they're not invested in the story, they have nothing to distract them from the grind. What keeps you around after you acquire the tits? Why would you do this to yourself?
>>501362515Feel ya on HSR, the initial characters and setting seemed interesting at first but went downhill fast. Shame.
>>501361258Why would they give a character away for free? ZZZ didn't win some big award or hit a milestone
>>501362806Thiszzz averages 120-140
>>501362763pic related is never coming out though, first trailer was like 3 years ago and radio silence since lmao
>>501362806not that person and mostly off topic because i'm not even comparing the free rolls, but man the autistic urge to fill up the map % cheevos burns me out on genshin like nothing elsethe open world becomes a checklist to solve rather than something that's fun for me to explore it's just how my brain works unfortunately
Whats with that difficulty spike at 15, pompei is murdering my girls if when I swap around and the previous characters doesnt have the shield on.
>Harumasa freeYanagi rolllers in shambles
>>501361589kek, this shit will never get old
>>501362659tl;dr: gambling addict
>>501362907they already paid Geoff for the award
>>501362909that's not my mibibi...
Anton is basically free free.
>>501362938>Attack roleLmao
>he wasted 180 pulls on a limited electric character when they are giving out one for free next patch
>>501362927Enemies in the tower attack much faster than they normally do so characters switching out may get hit before disappearing.
>>501362938I just maxed my Anton...
I genuinely do not understand how people are getting filtered by phase 1 Pompey, the man has a teleflash on every single move and they're all a year long. Phase 2, I get, but phase 1?
>>501361258>the reaction to harumasa has been so negative that they're begging people to take himI could see it happening.But who do they run instead of him?
>>501363015I only wasted 60 and I got her and her ball.
>>501362907Dawei already deposited the TGA money.
>>501362983Oh fuck forgot about that shit awards show. Yeah they'll probably announce him for free during that show then
>>501363015Anton has been there since 1.0 tho?
>>501362909Plastic surgery won
>>501363069Ellen rerun maybe
>tfw so used to quick swapping I get ass fucked by the ballet twins even when using Caesar Fuck, they really want you use to defensive assists here
Imagine Harumasa out dpsing Yanagi? Surely they won't allow that to happen?
>>501362806because i'm talking about average here not outlier patchesand yes zzz has more than a 100 f2p rolls per patch, the truth is it's closer to 110 than 100 even
>>501363015im not building homomasa even if he's free
Is Yanagi good with M1 Rina? I was thinking Yanagi/Rina/Nicole as a team - would that work?
I'm actually getting filtered by this stupid fucking rat
>>501362985>>501363132I can't really tell the old and new apart.Am I not Asian enough?
>doing engaging content with a team of cute girlsi am LITERALLY winning so hard right now bwos
>qy>caesaryou didnt beat the tower
>>501362615
>>501363180>simulated battle trials 3000wut
>>501363015I've missed the 50/50 and hit double soft pity, three banners in a row.Give me a break
>>501363015>using a homo
>>501363142We've been figuring that for almost a month. But, Just Ellen for 1.4? Maybe Miyabi?What a mess that would be.
>>501363067The only thing that sucks about phase 1 Pompey is that the motherfucker keeps VROOM VROOM'ing away from you.
>>501363224No, it just means the devs did a good job and the people complaining are contrarians
>>501363257Bwo...what are your Miib funds even looking like now? Are you going to use..."that" when she arrives?
>>501363239You are right, I fuckin destroyed the tower son.
>I like Yanagi>rolled and got herI know this is a concept that cock suckers and ugly women can't even begin to fathom lmao
Yanagi should have been on a date with Wise
>>501362763I think the Japanese are also aware what being a tributary state to the Chinese for... almost all of their history was like as well. They are a bit bitter.
how are we feeling, nagibros?
>>501363015I only used 11 actually. And I don't think I'm going for her ball.but she can go for my balls haha ha haha
>>501363354Happy for you anon
if they make shiyu as hard as the tower i will quit
>Homo is an attacker>Using homo>Building homoSo much copium. He will be the Dr Ratio of ZZZ
>>501363321Yeah I saved my 2x bonuses for her
where the fuck is she
>>501363198Cheesed to meet you!You've seen nothing yet.
I fucking hate Special Episodes because what the fuck were Phaethon doing in the entire episode other than to appease the "Phaethon doesn't appear in Special Episodes" complaints people have?
>>501361258>real or not??If the person in question is dataminer, then real(and it was likely referenced as event reward, be it login bonus or full event)If it's "leaker" larper, then probably not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZvfPRf1-i4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZvfPRf1-i4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZvfPRf1-i4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZvfPRf1-i4IT'S UP!!!
>>501363224really? her eye shape is very different nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGS4N5L40a0
>>5013635011.3 Miyabi looks like she plays yugioh unironically
>WORKWORKWORKWORKWORKWORKWORKWORKWORKWORKThis character is so exhausting.
>>501363465Right...HERE
>>501363501Her ears don't look as soft now...
>>501363501Damn, she looks a lot better.From downy to aspie
>>501363494This slow ass imouto...
>>501363198she only have like 3 patterns, use your dodge counter against it.
>>501363531>FOODFOODFOOD>IMOLDIMOLDIMOLDthere are worse characters bro
>>501363470not every quest needs to have phaeton as the main character, in fact i don't think every quest needs phaeton at all.virtual revenge was nice because we got a glimpse of the true section 6, we would never see intimate moments like that if phaeton were around.
Does Belle dye her hair? I just noticed her greyish eyebrows.
>>501363180Look man, you're right about the game averaging 100 a patch, but that graphic is not reliable. Multiple things on there are wrong. Simulated battle trials is the tower and it doesn't fucking give 3000. The Shiyu amount there is also wrong.
>>501363494YANAGI CITY POP YAMERO!
>>501363465Will likely save her announcement for some large event to maximize media circulation to the masses.
>>501361258if it's real, im very happy since i was going to skip him but i wanted him anyway
>>501363198Me? I think she's pretty easy!
>>501363602This. The story doesn't always need Phaethon, just like my wife doesn't always need me to be sexually satisfied.
>>501361258>he rolled bricknagiHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHASHAHA
>>501363689>missed Jane>missed CaesarI don't think I'm gonna make it bros...
Is anyone else finding the tower to be way easier after floor 30? Just got to 40.
>>501363474it's full stop chan, he is not a dataminer but he has gotten every single genshin banner right for like a year, the guy is reliable
>>501363501Straight up unless you put them side by side I would not have known the changed her.
>>501363494Belle...
God I really hope that free Fagumasa thing is fake... I was really hoping he'd be a limited S rank so he wouldn't pollute my Agent roster.
>>501363494Slow! Belle is slow and cute! My stupid little sister~
>>501363180>simulated battle trials 3000~
>>501363828you can just ignore the mail. there were a % of ppl that never accepted the ratio mail in hrt
>>501363370Feeling good about her. She's surprisingly more engaging to play than I thought. I keep overextending her field time because she often procs disorder at just her second round of NAs I keep forgetting to swap out and reapply another anomaly. I have a feeling once everyone finally gets a handle on how she plays she's gonna be strong and very solid.
>>501363194Anybody?
>>501363180Can you imagine the sheer SEETHE if 3000 fucking polys were gated behind Tower? Lmao.
>>501356934UUOOOOOOOOOOHHH
Which disks for Anby?
I have never replied to Seth DM and I WILL NOT claim homomasa.
>>501363884We can only hope.>>501363917I would replace Nicole with an anomaly agent, since Nagi really wants to proc big disorders, but yeah it should be fine.
>>501363917By this place's standards you need to have Rina's ball too to make penmaxxing actually worth it.
>>501363934Damn lucky lizard...
Harumasa will auto claim himself into your account.
>>501364056AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This game is flopping bigly. Where is the free limited 5* to bring players back?
man I love doing QA testing for my favorite game, Zenless Zone Zero (TM), for free
>>501355893I look like this
>>501362907Da Wei already paid the deposit for the TGA awards
Is avacadoboo the best boo for later floors in the tower? I heard theres a bangboo that can taunt which is also very good for the fights to give you some alone time in those double elite fights.
>>501357401t. the schizo suing From because xhe thinks there's hidden unaccessible content behind bosses xhe cant beat
>>501356934>Lucydev pushing her onto usBASED BASED BASED I KNEEL
