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Threadly reminder to not reply to the trip

>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-116

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Touch Bloodstain:
>>501600286
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>Stop playing ER after first DLC clear for a couple months
>Come back and every other match is STILL backhand blade L2 spam
SAD!
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>finally a thread that I didn't have to bake
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>>501853468
>NOOOOO you can't just spam L2 at me!!!!! It's not fair, my build sucks and I can't compete with a normal game mechanic!!!!!
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>>501853468
That's what happens when a solo game get multiplayer and some autist dedicate their entire life to griefing innocent players.
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>>501853468
you stroke xer nerve
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the falseflag brothers are here
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>>501853742
Ganking hosts and their homosexual orange lovers makes me extremely happy
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>>501853919
>i have a micropenis and i'm insecure about it
We know, don't worry. Goes with being a redcel.
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>>501853657
I mean I'm beating them, just dont like taking out the throwin shield to do it
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>>501853919
>>501853887
>>501853751
>>501853742
>>501853657
many dsg posts
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>>501854070
>I mean I'm beating them
:^)
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>>501854058
You spend a lot of time thinking about invaders and their cocks? That's sad.
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>>501854058
You struck a nerve, he's malding.
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>>501853334
For endings how long before the end can I use the needle to get rid of the flame?
Can I beat the dragon go forward until the final bosses backup the save and get the ending 1 then restore the save go back to use the stuff and enable the other ending for new game plus?
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I can't believe the lore community imploded. It's honestly fucking insane to me.
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>>501854058
>>501854396
Samefag who fantasizes about invader cock
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L2 Cooldowns
Variable per ash of war
Discuss
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And a swing and a miss, how embarrassing!
Imagine talking out of your ass and being publicly humiliated, ouch! That's gotta sting!
>inb4 "n-no i refuse to admit i'm w-wrong, HE PHOTOSHOPPED IT!!!"
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>>501854198
He wants invaders to invade his ass
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>>501854568
what does it mean
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>>501855394
You're supposed to have a # at the end of the reply like this, whyd you edit it out unless you were also editing out the (You)?
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>>501855372
Interesting
I always wished AoWs had a small skill requirement too
Just to keep pure warriors from casting the magey ones and mages from casting the faithy ones
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What would be the best base game str or dex weapon to start the DLC with?
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It photoshopped it whilst thinking about invader dick
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>>501855587
>>501855639
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>You're supposed to have a # at the end of the reply like this, whyd you edit it out unless you were also editing out the (You)?
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>>501855597
Claymore
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It's malding that it got caught
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>>501855597
Letter opener.
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>>501855717
That baby is so cute, I wish she would stop crying
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>>501855860
Try shaking it
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I imagine all /erg/ posters looking exactly like this
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>>501855950
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>>501856264
Kek
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>>501855372
sounds good
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>>501855372
I have a solution for you.
Git gud.
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>>501857063
I like the pvp I just like discussing alternate development paths it could have/could take
Do you never go like "I wonder how this would play if I use this weapon next time instead?"? Same thing
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>>501855394
nice photoshop retard
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>>501857304
You're right anon. I'm sorry, I've just gotten so used to people complaining about L2 that everytime I see it brought up, my conditioning kicks in.
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>>501858008
Just because it's photoshopped doesn't make the point less valid.
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>>501853334
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>>501858191
>just because it's a schizo malding over invaders doesn't make the point any less valid
That's exactly what it does
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>>501855372
Press X to awesome is a dogshit mechanic, they should add weapon durability back and when the weapon breaks you can no longer use L2, so you either save the l2 to gank the invader or to use it on the boss of the area but they really don't want casuals to have any semblance of difficulty or think for more than 5 seconds about their resources, hell, boss bog fog invasions are LITERALLY free materials for the hosts
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>>501855394
You mindbroke the /dsg/ tourists.
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>>501858136
It's okay, I just like talking about potential overhauls (even things I know would be a bad idea, like hunger or terrain mechanics) just to play around with the ideas and I thought of L2 cooldowns
I think one advantage is that basically it'd give fromsoft another dial to tick up or down to play around with balancing
Didadvantage is that it's another know for fromsoft to tweak so it would cause even more arguememts
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>>501858841
You're the samefag.
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>>501858571
Durability I feel like, I liked it but it was basically NEVER relevant, it was super easy to keep it fully repaired, plus I feel like if you made them then like break faster, you'd just like worsen the issue and like have people having like 50 copies of their weapon that they hotswap to whenever it breaks
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>>501855394
>>501855717
>>501858191
>>501858841
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/500232651/#q500403936
most pathetic samefag award
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>>501859239
You know like when a woman wants something really badly she'll talk about it nonstop and even make fun of it? That's the samefag and invader cock.
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>>501858841
i rape dsg tourists
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/dsg/niggers are fucking annoying holy shit
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>>501859239
Actually I was pretending to be him to cause problems on purpose, I don't know what the conversation is about
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>>501859813
Sure you did, samefaggot.
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im bored
*pokes this gen with a stick*
DO SOMETHING
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>>501859889
Like what?
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>>501859889
this gen has 0 stam left
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>>501859889
*gets poked*
*shits pants*
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Ranni won.
Everyone else but Nepheli lost.
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>>501860095
Wouldn't it be so weird if like Rellana hovered her bare ass over my chest and just let out a brown soft serve coil and then mushed it with her cheeks? Lmao so weird!
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>>501859239
And a swing and THREE MISS, OOOOUUUUCH.
That's gotta hurt, being so wrong, how humiliating!
If I was in your shoes, talking my ass out and getting a public SMACKDOWN like you just did, I'd kill myself out of shame at being so wrong and pathetic and miserable and a fatherless loser.
Will you show any kind of honor and decency and do the right thing, I wonder, or are you going to cope and cry like you usually do, and thus prove you are but a mental child?
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>>501859889
*holy ground slams you*
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>>501860708
>(You) on the fourth reply
But that's MY post you faggot!
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Report and hide all samefaggot posts
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>>501860708
>posts yet another photoshopped image
nigga just let it go it's over
you already admitted to photoshopping so what's the point
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>>501860708
You win, the tourist is back to its NPC programming now.
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The more I play Elden Ring the more I wish it just had a VN mode
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>>501861395
>>501860708
samefag
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I love dsg frens
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MADDY ARE YOU OKAy
ARE YOU OKAY MIQUELLA
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>>501861854
You don't have to say that, why
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>>501861854
What build would Tony use
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>>501853334
This is what Radahn wishes he was.
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>>501862071
str/arcane with some bloodflame spells
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>>501861901
>>501862071
he would use consumables so they can't be traced back to him
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>>501861651
AIIIIIIIIE
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It photoshopped again. sad.
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>>501862643
Sad!
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>>501862236
You angered the newfags.
lol
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Is Marika and Radagon samefagging the Golden order?
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dsg pictures are so weird
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>>501862825
agreed
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Godwyn won
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>>501862071
what about paulie?
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>>501862236
>>501862710
samefag
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In terms of melee weapon scaling:

STR has physical damage and fire damage.
DEX has physical damage and lightning damage.
FTH has fire damage and holy damage.
ARC only comes with physical damage scaling for infusions, but gets somber weapons with not just fire but even magic damage, AND the theoretical highest melee DPS due to the status buildup options.
But INT? Just magic.
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>>501863553
Cold?
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a whole 2 years? for this???
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>>501863501
>still wrong
Do you have a fetish for being humiliated in public?
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>>501863334
Nta but I've never watched sopranos so idk
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>>501855372
>>501858571
>>501859136
L2 ashes were always a stupid idea. Make it a normal non-FP based input that varies depending on the weapon, but that would require fixing the weapon movesets which is what From DOESN'T want to do (because they'd have to do real dev work) so they added ashes to make up for normal weapon play being inadequate in a game as fast and stupid as Elden Ring. This goes in hand with R2 being a wasted input because stationary charge attacks are awful to use and don't make any sense (neither does guard countering but hey, people like being rewarded for doing nothing).
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A staff (or soreseal) that has a stronger spell scaling stat the more empty memory slots it has
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>>501864449
What did L2 do in Dark Souls and Sekiro if they didn't have ashes of war?
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>>501864728
Parry.
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>>501864841
Wow, every weapon had a parry?
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>>501865723
No. But every PvP build would have one. Either a main gauche (parrying dagger) or a small shield.
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>>501864728
ds1 had op parry frames on everything
ds2 had varying parry frames on some weapons
bb had another type of attack
ds3 had weaponarts
er has ashes of war (weaponarts)
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Is there any hopes for an Elden Ring 2? I know that Miyazaki wants to move on, but perhaps another developer at From could successfully take it on.
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>>501866206
No. From in general hates sequels, and given how /dsg/ troons review bombed Elden Ring for not being Dark Souls 4, a sequel is unlikely.
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>>501866206
We'll get DS4 before ER2
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I was talking to someone that had a cold, and I realized how funny it is that cold is a sickness you can get but also the name of an infusion in elden ring
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>>501866206
Probably not but I really really want a second one
And a third one
And a fourth and a fifth and a sixth and a seventh and an eidth
Isk about more after that thougg
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>>501866724
autism.
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>>501855460
the lore got rewritten very near to the release. Eclipse eyes imply the Godwyn thing was real but then got cut.

Remember:
>Land of Shadow is effectively the netherworld for TLB
>The Scadutree gets virtually zero lore or explanation
>Prince of Death is irrelevant and absent in the land of death

I'm not a godwynfag, I'm just a lorefag who hates how badly the DLC lore shits the bed. They don't explain almost anything about the story except vague Marika backstory. It's awful. Miq's followers were kinda cringe too, there wasn't nearly enough drama or intrigue with them. The charm breaks and basically everybody still sucks your dick unless you purposefully ignore their quests.
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>>501866949
I dont have autism
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>>501867038
The scadutree is explained, it's the shadow of the erdtree
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>>501866206
From didn't necessarily achieve what they were going for with ER & SoTE but they burned through their creative drive for it and souls clones in general. They're more likely to release a mascot platformer than anything resembling a sequel to Elden Ring within the next 10 years.
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>>501867126
>>501867126
>it's the shadow of the erdtree
That's not an explanation at all shit-for-brains.
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>>501867126
>shadow existed before the erdsneed
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What level would you recommend for fighting consort radahn?
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>>501867038
I'm in the same boat, and I'm not even a lorefag
I knew the DLC was going to have a mediocre story but I didn't realize it would be as bad as it was, it's almost offensive how bad it is
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>>501862129
>Jobs to Margit, a weaker version of Morgott
>Jobs to Malenia
>Jobs to the Tarnished
>Jobs to the Tarnished AGAIN after becoming a literal god for some gay retard
Radahn fans can't catch a break.
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>>501867038
I think it's funny that the shadow tree is the erdtree equivalent giant landmark that dominates the scenery yet has no relevance. No one is concerned with it and you can't even get to it. It's just a decoration.
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>>501867519
scadutree level 20
after beating the main game you should be rl150 and after exploring everything in the dlc you should be rl200 before radahn
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>binge the entire game
>get to promised consort
>stop
did this happen to anyone else
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>>501868126
No, only to soulless G*rmans.
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>>501868126
He's not fun and there's no incentive to kill him.
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>>501868126
yes, he is simply not a fun boss fight
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>>501867190
>>501867260
Tfw you realize it's not
>The Scadutree is the shadow of the Erdtree
it means
>The Scadutre is the Shadow of the Erdtree
The scadutree is a shadow like blaidd was to Ranni, it's meant to keep the Erdtree in line and kill it if it betrays the Golden Order and was elevated to that position by the Greater Will (it existed before thougg that's why it was elevated not created)
The scadutree avatar is something Miquella went to to to charm and use to break the great rune to break his connection with the Greater Will and set the Scadutree against the Erdtree
This is actually true!
Why is the scadutree avatar in the Black Keep if Miquella apparently broke his Great Rune there? And so is Miquella's arm? Was he just walking around the Black Keep and Messmer just didn't react and had no opinion on it? Was he okay with it, was he powerless to stop him? Why does the dlc basically have two halves but like jone of them interact? Miyazakiiiii
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>>501868341
Who is this slut you keep posting
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>>501868341
Stop asking question about this outsourced DLC lol
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>>501868341
I like that you're still trying but since we won't know unless we get a TV Show or Movie someday, I've just filed away Elden Ring as a great Soulsborne that fails to achieve the ludonarrative harmony and greatness that BB did.
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>>501868437
Gigantogiganormous if true
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>>501868476
>>501868537
I know but I don't like answering "We don't know" to everything even if that like is the actual answer
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>>501868804
Give me a proper fucking answer goddammit
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>>501868946
Sure but now you understand exactly why the lore community imploded. We edged for TOO LONG and then got given -FUCKING NOTHING-

Lorefags can't operate on headcanon alone and I noticed that when the miquella's eyes controversy dropped, that's when the lore community basically self-deleted.
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>>501869112
>Lorefags can't operate on headcanon alone
The weak ones can't
I am simulating an entire copy of Elden Ring: Scholar of the Original Sin in KY head RIGHT NOW
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>>501869112
I was so excited for the DLC because of the lore (im a retarded faggot)

At this point I am just running on my own headcanon to fill in the potholes and retarded decisions. I dont think everything should have an answer but some of the decisions are so open ended and the answers we do get are so small.
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>>501869090
Elle Dee Ring
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>>501869471
Miyazaki reached peak fartsniff by holding back on the special lore doc his favorite gaijin author co-authored with him. The only redemption is if all the "potholes" get filled by a sequel or piece of canonical media.


I still respect him but he needs to drop another BANGER to prove that SotE was merely a blip.
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>>501869654
I'm glad that video ended up being a joke because it looked so gross
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>>501869750
It's a masterful parody of similar clips. Everybody get dazzled by a little swizzled sauce.
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>>501869750
you're a joke and you look gross
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>>501869965
I'm not and I dont
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>>501869963
I fuckin love drizzled sauce
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>>501870359
Swizzle. Not drizzle. Drizzle is just to drip. Swizzling is when you make the little oscillating pattern.

If you've seen enough of these streetfood clips, you'll know what I mean. They act like adding hotsauce to a fucking lamb kebab platter is artful. It's a cope like they're latte artists who can put a pikachu into your morning latte.
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>>501870537
share with us more sauce techniques anon

>>501870213
I bet you're stinky
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>>501870770
I shower on days I go out
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>>501870896
so once a week?
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>>501870537
Do you think Boggart would be pretentious with his sauce on prawns if he had any?
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>>501870982
If it's a week where I only go out once then yeah duh
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>>501871507
ewww stinky
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>>501867839
I haven't beat the main game yet, I just went into the DLC after beating mohg. rl162 atm.
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>>501871807
Why would it matter if it's a day where I don't go out?
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what the fuck
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Wtf are jannies doing
They let the bitch in heat engage in rape-ERP with anons for hours and then they delete posts about shrimps?
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>>501874209
>crones in the world of eldie are sex goddesses
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>>501873663
>*holds L1 to block with weapon as the video does intro fade*
Yo What's Up /erg/ It's
>*takes a few moments pause, spins around thrice*

ChaseTheSlop Here And
>*moves the camera down then up, poorly edited jump cut into him running around in the smallest circle possible allowed by the game's deadzone movement*
And Welcome Back To Another Weapon Showcase! Today Today We're Gonna Take A Look At The Godslayer's Greatsword.
>*uses The Queen's Black Flame on a Godrick Soldier to demonstrate his power, surprising the ChaseTheBro fan*
>*2Hs the Godslayer Greatsword, spamming L1 to waggle like a faggot

So yeah, that's the build. Let's get into some invasions!!
>*invades an obvious PvE only player doing coop legit with another friend that isn't trying to twink or overleveled*
>"looks like we got some gankers here guys! and they are using ultra greatswords too!
>*jump attack spams the host, finishing him off with crouch R1 even though ChaseTheBro was sweating profusely, adrenaline off the charts against a PvE only player and his friend who are playing to progress, not twinking out or anything*
>talks to himself and makes comments about the person he's invading as if he were infantile
>"yeah good fight BerserkGuts2006!"
>*does a bow gesture even though he was sweating against people with no obvious PvP experience*

Wow. That was tough, he almost got me!

>*puts on a facade of fake positivity even though he is seething and actually toxic*
Let Me Know With A (You) On What You Guys Thought About My Godslayer Greatsword Weapon Showcase Here .
>doesn't even show how he got the build any way
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>>501874209
You can see her vagina
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>>501874293
Rape is on topic though and a big part of the game
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>>501874293
jannies are gooners probably
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>>501871507
Pushing my face on Madison's stinky unwashed greasy pubes and inhaling the pheromones...
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>>501874293
rape is part of elden ring erg culture

elden ring uohh marika miquella sexoo
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>>501874757
You don't have to say that and I'm pretty sure that's not what pheromones are
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>>501874757
MADDY ARE Y
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>>501874784
elden ring booba
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>>501874847
How hairy is your pussy?
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It's crazy how Midra isn't the final boss of the DLC. I've never before seen a boss with this much "I'm the final boss" energy who isn't actually the final boss. He's in some secret irrelevant side area you almost certainly won't find without a guide or a lucky player message, and doesn't contribute anything to the story? What a fumble.
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>>501875052
I used to pull out my pubes and then sometimes when you pull out hair like that it has a white bit of skin or something, that I would put down on where I knew ants walked through where I lived and they would bite the white part wnd eat/carry it away. The ainsel river tunnels with the ants there reminded me of that
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>>501875156
I found Midra just fine, I don't use guides. Pretty inevitable to stumble upon the access catacomb if you explore every corner.
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>>501875156
>I've never before seen a boss with this much "I'm the final boss" energy who isn't actually the final boss
pontiff sulyvahn

>>501875290
why would you tell this to anybody
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>>501875156
Fromsoft likes the bug important but little spoken character in side area, Midra was just that
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>>501875290
Answer my question, whore
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>>501875352
Why wouldnt I
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>>501875473
I didn't want to answer so I told a similarly related story
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>>501867038
>Land of Shadow is effectively the netherworld for TLB
Not quite. The center of the Lands Between is just where the first gravekeepers that made contact with the god of death lived so that area has close connections with the netherworld. If anything it's more like a Purgatory where the spirits that died elsewhere in the Lands Between drift to get in line for the actual netherworld. Of course now that the deathbirds or mostly gone the spirits have just been stacking up.
>>They don't explain almost anything about the story except vague Marika backstory.
>explains Marika's origins and her rise to power
>explains why the Omen curse exists
>explains the relationship between ancient dragons and drakes and why Placidusax is damaged
>explains what culture the mysterious ruins scattered across the entire Lands Between belonged to
>gives further insight on the deathbird culture that ruled the Lands Between before Marika and possibly even explains the entire Uld culture and their relationship with the rest of the lore
This dlc has more explanations than any dlc before, they just weren't the explanations you wanted.
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>>501875156
>you almost certainly won't find without a guide
Everyone did, you obviously have to exit through the shadow keep and the church district cutscene pretty much exists to show you that the water is flowing down to the very obvious playable ruins below so you should follow the water.
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>>501876456
It's locked behind an illusory wall next to the painting THOUGH, the only way in is to coffin down the waterfall.
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>>501868126
I let him grab me twice and make that my canon ending.
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>>501868341
MADDY ARE
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>>501876989
You don't have to say that, and what?
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>>501877058
MA
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I want to play Elden Ring but I have an erection..
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>>501877193
ask varreposter to take care of it for you
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>Watching the Elden Ring bingo match at GDQ
>Runners get flattened by the fire knights with dex weapons like the great katana and backhand blades
Man I never realized how bullshit these guys were because I always pancaked them with colossals, the weaopn balance in this game is laughable.
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>>501877183
I got sort of soiled om it because of a bug that got me stuck in the turpial and made me redo it 4 times, I started a new playthrough once it got proved to PC but haven't gotten back to where I was in the tutorial
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>>501877193
MAD
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>>501877193
So? You can play with that
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>>501877193
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whens the new game whens the new game whens the new game
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>>501877695
>>501877992
Cancer
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>>501876451
This. But people will cry and scream because they're obsessed with the miquella - godwyn connection. There is barely any connection, aside from an extremely close up screenshot of miquella's eyes. What a fucking joke.
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Don't you daaa-aaaare discuss Shrimpuella the Fried
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whens the next souls game with no shrimp enemies i fucking hate them
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Why don't INTcels vote?
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Which boss is shittier: Senessax or Lamenter?
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>>501877373
big weapons have always been pve ez mode since u stunlock everything
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>>501879335
Who would even be voting in the mountaintops of the giants and snowfields
There's nothing there
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Concentrated Snowfields? Hmph, I actually found them quite unfocused
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>>501880516
Liurnia? Why would Nia be lying?
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something about great spears just doesn't feel good to me, I tried to use a couple and I don't like them!
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>>501880747
Yerp, they suck. I think it's to do with the windup
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>>501880747
all spears feel awful
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https://youtu.be/h34mBSUwH14
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>>501879971
The Kaiden and Zamor existing seem to imply there's at least some life there
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>>501881821
Wow, that's badass, I would've never thought to use lightning bolt in liurnia for the aoe
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>>501847232
Lusat's + Carian Glintstone Staff + Slicer is cracked
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>>501884257
for me, its regal scepter because scepter's spinning weapon is better than the normal spinning weapon and true combos off of carian slicer
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>>501876014
Do I really have to force myself on you just to check the amount of pubes you have? You shameless rape whore...
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>>501879335
Its more like marika vs goldCHAD though
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>>501884479
You dont have to say that
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>>501884642
That doesn't make any sense, thats jot what that's a reply to
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>>501880516
>>501880692
Weeping Peninsula? So why does it need a bridge?
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>>501884479
I mean yeah probably unless I get bored
>amount
What, do you want me to count?
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>>501884886
We ping? We better not!
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When Metyr does her giant Arquebus Balteus laser attack, how do you dodge it? It feels like the first spin of the laser beyblade is literally unavoidable.
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>>501876451
Most of the DLC lore is generally pretty good. Besides the main story the only lore part I've seen people complain about is the fingers, which I find bizarre since it's the one thing the DLC introduced that could've been deduced entirely from base game information besides Metyr's existence, the DLC just makes it more explicit because I guess it was too subtle for your average Fromtard. HOWEVER the Miquella story, which was the main draw, is so fucking bad and awfully written it sours everything else
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>>501885751
Literally the only videos I could ever find about 100% dodging it/hitless are
A: using raptor of the mists
B: lucky enough that it doesn't happen
Lol
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>>501885751
>>501886437
I have NO idea how i'd have solved that fight without fingerprint shield + shield grease + grass
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>>501887057
I think I just like ended uo saving enough flasks for it
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>>501854687
Yes, very much
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>>501885751
For me it was thopps barrier
I'm pretty sure that other than that you need to use BHS or ROTM
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Don't reply to it
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>>501887326
>>501887172
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>>501868341
Ok, here's the real answer, I'm sorry:
SOTE was originally two different DLC's. One was the Miquella plotline, the other was the Messmer plotline. Because of time and budgeting reasons, both plotlines were folded into the same DLC which created a lot of disconnects.
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>>501886437
>>501887248
oh, that's disappointing
on a related note, why is vow of the indominatable so garbage? it doesn't last nearly long enough to escape anything you'd want to use it on
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>>501888253
because as usual, FROM undersells how good iframe buffs are
twisted wall of light was shit outside of (1) instance in dks3 for similar reasons
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>>501888574
twisted wall of light was good for cucking fire surge and making deep soul trickshots
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>>501888253
it's just a replacement for a roll. it's actually not that bad, it's just for ppl who suck
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>>501887057
I solved it by summoning a spirit ash
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>>501890624
I wish she would sit on my face
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>>501887326
>>501888046
Why not?

>>501871507
Napoleon once wrote a letter to Josephine that said "home in 3 days... Don't wash." Cause he liked em dirty
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>>501890624
Digs her eyeballs out with a spoon and eats them
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>>501869654
That is the Korean webm I've ever seen
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>>501892123
I heard it even makes you better at StarCraft
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>>501890901
I wish she would give me hugs
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>>501894486
yeah I wouldn't mind that either
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>>501883914
cute rya
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>putrid crystalian trio
who the fuck thought this boss was ok?
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So, let me get this straight: Ranni stole the Rune of Death, asked Mirror Hat Man Giant to forge a bunch of death rune daggers, and then assassinated his half-brother demigod Godwyn, JUST to find out if she could kill a demigod's soul? THEN, she also had one of those skinny mofos stab her body, freeing her soul, embedding her soul to a doll?! And all of that hard work of ill-gotten gains, was to ultimately to use the Moon as a space ship to travel the cosmos!?!?!?
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>Invaded by Anastasia, Tarnished-Eater
>She input reads to dodge and punish every single weak attack without fail
>She input reads my weapon art but rolls so early that it always roll catches her
>Brainlessly spam weapon art to win

Is this what gitting gud has been reduced to? Mortal Kombat final bossfights where you find the one AI exploit or overlooked mechanic to cheese fights this lazily designed? I know she's just a random invader but this feels like a microcosm of the whole game. This isn't a challenging game where I have to improve myself to overcome difficult fights, this is looking up the one thing that works (or brute forcing through every item and move until you find it) and then doing it repeatedly. It's like using freezing pots on Malenia or Bewitching Branches for Niall. It's a point and click adventure game dressed up with combat mechanics.
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>>501897374
you're a complete low iq low skill shitter if you struggle vs anastasia
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>>501897374
too many word
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>>501897374
>uppercase after meme arrow
Spotted the /dsg/ tourist. Go back.
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>>501897181
No, kinda but like no, we don't know if it was an accidental discovery ehen she tried to kill herself out of spite or on purpose, but she killed herself at the same time as Godwyn, which let her soul live on and her body die , in attempt to change her fate as an Empyrean/Heir to Marika
It didn't fully do the trick so then you now hop in in part 2/plan B
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>>501897836
Dsg raped me
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>>501897374
Huh???
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>>501897374
>It's like using freezing pots on Malenia or Bewitching Branches for Niall. It's a point and click adventure game dressed up with combat mechanics.
yeah it's like parrying gwyn, or redirecting lightning on genichiro
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>>501897374
Why did you guys look up stuff? I just figured everything out on my own. And tried all sorts of stuff out and has fun… You guys all think too hard.
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>>501897572
Nice job failing to raid anything I said. Let me dumb it down enough for you to understand: If an enemy always punishes one attack and always rewards another attack, then it's boring to fight. I mash a button and win if it's the right button or lose if it's the wrong button.

>>501898127
It's been more than ten years since I learned about parrying Gwyn and I'm still upset they included that in that fight. It's still more engaging than a lot of fights in Elden Ring because I have to worry about timing the parry.

>>501898281
I didn't look up anything for my first playthrough. For later ones, I looked up a ton of stuff because I'm not going to waste time backtracking across the entire map in the hopes of randomly stumbling across the next location an NPC randomly moved to. I didn't look up boss strategies either, just sort of absorbed those two from cultural osmosis.
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>>501899280
Maybe u had bad luck. Anastascia didn’t always dodge my normal attacks
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>>501900191
Everything either always input reads or doesn't input read at all. She didn't dodge my attacks when I used while she couldn't dodge, but she dodged all of them while she was standing or walking. She dodged all of my weapon arts like that too but didn't know how to dodge with the correct timing so all of them hit after the roll.

Fucking atrocious design. First time I've ragequit over winning because of how unsatisfying the win was.
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>>501897374
For me, I just laughed because night sorceries completely fucking pwn NPC's, as by design, AI cannot read night sorceries being cast
she also eats shit from counterattacks if you're a shieldnigger or a deflectnigger and a two handed man can just bait out one of her jumping attacks and immediately punish her
another trick is to use miriam's vanishing + pancake mallet like in this webm, since it works on any in-game AI too
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>>501901345
I thought she was really satisfying BECAUSE of her rush doen and punish moveset. It felt like outsmarting an ogre with finesse
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>>501901435
Is this a level 300 webm
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>>501901631
nta but what pissed me off about her is she invades when you're getting raped by dogs
fighting her 1v1 is actually pretty fun because you have to figure out how to make her whiff and punish her, or use some kind of alt strat like other anons suggested to get her
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>>501897374
Bro its a fucking npc fight what did you expect, if you want a challenge go rape madison instead (in arena pvp)
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>>501901435
Your armor doesn't really fit the theme of your build.
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>>501901924
You don't have to say that and I'm good at the game, retard
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>>501901898
I always just run through and grab the grace immediately and end up fighting her in the church, iv3 never dealt with the nearby dogs at the same time
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>>501902043
That's why I said it would be a challenge illiterate fucking retard
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>>501901242
Damn bitch you pale as hell
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>>501901784
Yes.
>>501901950
>theme
I just want to kill. High level PVP is fucking cancer it was just the only webm I had on hand to demonstrate the chaincast
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>>501901924
I suppose it wouldn't be a challenge to rape her in real life
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>>501902224
Well she wants to be raped to death, so consent is implied. Therefore its actually impossible to rape her in real life. Her body, your choice.
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>>501902224
>her
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>>501901242
Women images are weird.
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>>501902197
It looked very cool
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>>501902149
Oh that makes sense sorry
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>>501901631
>outsmarting input reading
>outsmarting the most basic if:then statement

>>501901435
That sounds like a really boring way to win. If the AI isn't complex enough to react to your attacks then the win has all the tactical depth of turning on infinite health in cheat engine. There's no counterplay or thought just mashing a button until free win.

>>501901924
I was expecting something with as much complexity as NPCs in earlier installments instead of less. I was also expecting a game where fighting bosses and enemies involved learning how to deal with attacks instead of finding the win button and pressing it.
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>>501902748
>>outsmarting input reading
Literally yes
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>>501902163
Thank you, I try
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>>501901242
>madison is a cutter
sadge, hope the cuts heal alright
try not to give anons more thigh pics just because they ask
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>>501902748
Retard.
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>>501899485
Saved. Here's a picture of my cat. Cool, that sounds good. I'll grind out runes and try to get as many smithing stones as I can until then. I'd say go easy on me, but where's the fun in that?
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MADDY ARE YOU OKAY
ARE YOU OKAY MADDY
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>>501903367
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>>501902748
why are you expecting dedicated unique AI from a basic bitch NPC invader
go fight an actual boss. imagine complaining that kirk doesn't have the complexity of artorias or ornstein
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>>501903497
You don't have to say that and for now
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>>501903438
I can see you in the cat's eyes reflection
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>>501903867
He's screaming
>BORING BORING SO BORING SO DULL AIIIIIIIIIIEEE
because he's embarrassed about getting btfo by one of the easiest enemies to outplay. Mad bcuz bad
Also to be fair Dks2 SOTFS did feature phantoms with unique AI, like Maldron, or the faggot in the FOTFG you're intended to use the giant seed on
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>>501903867
He thought these games would have better ai after ds2 lol
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>>501904209
>fromsoft game
>improving
Why would you think that ever?
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>>501904196
>>501904209
i skipped scholar but thats pretty cool if true
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>>501903438
why do you look like asmongold
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>>501904402
It is. There are a couple of ghosts who lay ambush. It's obviously scripted and not anything fancy, this isn't Quake 3, but still better than
>spawn
>find player
>CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE
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>>501903438
>Saved.
Bro?
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>>501904191
Ahhhh nooo
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>>501904549
Tim Poole...?
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>>501904415
Ouch. Cause I'm all fucked up right now. I don't have bleeding gums at least (for now.)
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>>501904415
asmongold but more chubby
>>501904632
spot on
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% chance that trip faggot will flake? Om going with 70%
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>>501903867
>why are you expecting dedicated unique AI from a basic bitch NPC invader
Why are you putting words in my mouth? I'm asking for NPCs to be as interesting as previous NPCs instead of incredibly boring.
>go fight an actual boss
Do you not know what microcosm means? It means a smaller instance of a larger pattern. The bosses do the same thing. This a problem throughout the whole damn game. It's why I'm here shitposting instead of playing Elden Ring. It's bad design and not fun.

>>501904196
I'm complaining that I won literally just by pressing the same button over and over. Try it yourself, head to the smouldering church with the cipher pata and spam ashes of war.
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>>501904402
some of the ds2 sotfs npcs had gimmicks
>if you block they go for guardbreaks
>they all can do jump attacks and r2s and r1s rolling and running attacks etc.
>almost all of the sotfs invaders and summons will do diff. hi/goodbye gestures and one of them uses a prattling pate to greet you
>some of the summons will point out stuff in the environment or gesture for you to come over so they can heal you
>one of the invaders pretends to be a barrel so he can backstab you at a chest nearby
>another one has a ring that disguises him as a friendly and will backstab you, also he runs away to hide behind enemies every time you figure out his trick
>another invader will use grease on her weapon and its randomized what kind of grease
>another invader has invisible weapons and transparent armor
>another one has a fuck ton of different weapons and cycles through them all
>theres a summon who has a light spell to help out in a dark area
Ds2 sotfs tried its best for the time and then fromsoft just said fuck it we don’t have time for this shit.
Also forlorn in ds2 had several set invasion points as well as a bunch of spawns by chance, which was cool because it kinda felt like he was hunting you down.
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>>501904776
>I don't have bleeding gums at least (for now.)
w-what
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>autist ruins the game for himself
many such cases. sad!
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>>501905076
He has leprosy
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>>501897181
>>501897880
We know Ranni knew what she was doing. How she knew of the rite in the first place is another matter (I assume snow crone, or Marika told her), but the plot itself was known before hand. She gave Rykard traces of Destined Death to use against Maliketh in the event some part of the plan failed. He was her last resort, as it says, 'on the night of the dire plot'.

I do wonder about how much it worked. She's evidently free now but still needs to kill her two fingers instead of just... proceeding with the plan? Idk, it is strange, but the plot itself was a well thought out affair.

The moon isn't a space ship though (probably), it's just a moon. But all celestial objects in ER are magical/semi divine, and the moon isn't an exception. The Dark Moon is bonkers, and might be a microcosm? Idk, bonfirevn had a video recently exploring the cutscene map and the dark moon is weird, but not like a spaceship, more like there's something inside it, or used to be
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>>501905076
pretty sure he's admitting to having gingivitis, which you develop when you don't brush your nasty ass teeth
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>>501904545
>>501905010
that sounds fucking dope, why did people always tell me scholar was worse than even vanilla ds2 and wasnt worth playing?
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>>501905506
Because it feels like DaS2 Director's Cut. Hardly worth being its own product.
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>>501905506
Well, I'm not saying dark souls 2 was the BEST even if scholar is my favorite souls title, it certainly had its problems
But it got a seriously bad rap from its detractors and despite Scholar being an objective improvement 99% of the time, a lot of people wrote it off when it came out. Most of the people you see complain about SOTFS didn't actually play it and may not have even played the original dark souls 2 and are just parroting the popular opinion, because people for a long time and to an extent even today get shit on for saying they liked the game or didn't think it was that bad.
This is especially true if you're from /dsg/ when it was still alive
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>>501905226

Here's the video: https://youtu.be/VDIT5uT00Q4?t=27

The Moon looks even weirder than in game.
It looks like warping from gravitational lensing. People say it's like a black hole, but they absorb all light, and would present as a giant black orb. The stars inside the moon are visible, just warped, and they are falling towards a space slightly to the top of the sphere of the moon. There's a galactic core on the right, the bright mass of stars, and notably, all the stars are blueshifted, ie moving towards the viewer, not away.

I think it's possible there's a black hole in orbit of the planet of the LB, or the star it orbits, or even just nearby, but the moon itself just seems to reveal these things, not actively make them happen. A bit like a mirror
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>>501905506
vanilla ds2 has a much gentler difficulty curve
sotfs decides to anal rape you in the middle of the game if you dont kill enemies one at a time at iron keep as they come at you lmao.
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>>501905826
I think it's just a weird visual, not meant to be related to like physical space phenomenon
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>>501905506
>why did people always tell me scholar was worse than even vanilla ds2 and wasnt worth playing?
literally who fucking says this
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>>501905963
> if you dont kill enemies one at a time at iron keep as they come at you lmao.
Is that not like how everyone plays every fromsoft game?
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>>501905970
Yeah probably so. Such an odd choice though, but I suppose no weirder than a several miles high glowing tree
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>>501905963
>actually have to kill enemies instead of just running past them to the boss
god dark souls 2 is truly dogshit
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All of the mending the elden ring endings should've been as unique as like the ranni and Frenzied Flame ones
"The age of ___" isn't enough, you can like keep the same dialogue but liek could you have atlwast like shown some skeletons in leyndell or something for the necromancy one and people curled up crying in the cursed one
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>>501906425
>actually have to kill enemies
Oh no I have to play the game haaa the horror, THE HORROR!!
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>>501906425
>>501906210
I mean that’s the complaint for scholar’s iron keep. People hate the enemy placement probably because they rush in and die or didn’t upgrade their weapon.
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It is funny to me how the more I watch challenge runs for ER, particularly DLC challenge runs, the more it bleeds through how disappointed the runners are with the game, and how much they unironically don't like the content at all. I wonder how long they'd stick with the game if it wasn't such a money maker because it really seems more like they're more frustrated with the game than fun with the game.
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>>501906825
Oh wait and people don’t like the smelter demon runback if they die. So I guess that’s understandable. Forgot about smelter demon.
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>>501906825
the first time I played DS2 I did the old iron king as my second great soul and I had a rough time in iron keep

pretty sure most of the alonne knights in the first half were despawned by the time I beat smelter demon
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>>501906606
The levels and enemies have always just been filler in between the bosses. I wish there was a setting to make it like furi where you just get dialogue inbetween bosses and can rub ut on autopilot instead of having to grind through it.
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>>501907163
It's a joke, but I bet people are really like that
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>>501905076
Asmongold has bleeding gums. I'm saying that I may look like shit but at least I'm not to the point of wiping blood from my gums onto the wall next to my bed.
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>>501905506
Scholar took bad enemy layout and turned it into atrocious enemy layout. It improved the item layout so that most of the interesting weapons aren't locked behind the king's ring. If you're comfortable slowly pushing through repetitive enemy spam you'll find the NPC AI to be incredibly charming and the fun type of frustrating.

Stuff like Forlorn having a tiny chance to invade you in every single area in the entire game winds up adding a lot, and the random "oh fuck NOT YOU NOT NOW GOD DAMN IT" gives a lot of replayability. NPC summons intentionally trying to cast buffs on you and heal you and using gestures to try to convince to come over so that they CAN do that gives them a ton of personality. It's especially fun when you see that they have different sets of gestures if you interacted with them in other ways. Some summons invade you later and change what they do if you summoned them before fighting them.

>>501906606
>>501906425
The problem with Iron Keep is that you fight the same enemy in the same environment 20 times in a row. A silver knight in a room backed up by a silver knight archer is fun the first time. When you have to fight 20 of them in their own 20 rooms, it gets very boring.

Alonne knights are a fun enemy, but every single fight between the bonfire and Smelter is either a small room or a narrow walkway with lava on one or both sides while an archer shoots at you. Make me do that twice and make the third one different somehow (maybe TWO archers or fight a captain instead) and it would be fine. But they seriously ask you do the same fight at least 15 times.
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>>501907467
I'm sure there are. Just as I'm sure there are boss rush mods for ER.
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>>501907542
>average wowfag
good god how awful
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>>501907603
Dark Souls 2 allows enemies to desspawn if you kill them enough, so eventually, you'll finish it.
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>>501907012
You can skip smelter demon by going into the furnace and climbing the ladder, but you don’t get that middle bonfire. It’s a rough location if you don’t have a decently upgraded weapon and stamina. Or a mace.
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>>501907817
yeah I know, but that middle bonfire is practically mandatory because of how difficult that second half is

I suppose you can just get the belfry sol bonfire, but I didn't know that at the time
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I HATE FURNACE GOLEMS
I HATE FURNACE GOLEMS
I HATE FURNACE GOLEMS
I HATE FURNACE GOLEMS
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>>501905826
It seems like a view looking out, rather than into or at a black hole. But idk, optics is funky
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>>501907769
Killing them 12 times so that they despawn means you've done the exact same fight around 300 times and that just makes the bad design worse. Compare that to the enemy layout in DS1 or DeS: they make sure to add a small twist onto each fight so that the same enemies lead to unique combats. Take the lower undead burg: You fight dogs, and then after you fight thieves. Then, you (can bait dogs out first but usually) fight some dogs and thieves together at the same time, then you fight Capra.

Hell, take Anor Londo once you're past the archers: You fight a spear knight in a room, then a sword knight in a room, then an archer in a hallway, then a sword and an archer at the same time on the roof, then two spears at the same time. These are all unique fights that gradually escalate the difficulty. That is good encounter design. If you replaced all of those with sword supported by a bow, it would be boring.

I really like Dark Souls 2, but Scholar screwed up interesting combat design hard.
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>>501908759
>Killing them 12 times so that they despawn means you've done the exact same fight around 300 times
?????????????????????????????
American education, everyone, twelve is equal three hundreds!
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>>501908759
there are some areas with good variety (brightstone cove, lost bastille) but yeah iron keep stands out as an area with bad enemy variety

>I really like Dark Souls 2, but Scholar screwed up interesting combat design hard.
what were the enemies there in vanilla DS2?
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>>501908929
You have to kill each enemy 12 times, so if you have 12 enemies, and you have to kill each one 12 times then that IS 300ish.
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Curseblade Assassins are the most unfun enemies in Fromsoft history.
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>ER multiplayer is basically dead and it's all because of the player limit
>There's a non zero chance we're in for another hollowing but with a worse game
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>>501909072
in iron keep it was the same enemies just toned down so u didnt want to slit your throat if you died to smelter demon
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>>501909349
>all because of the player limit
?
>There's a non zero chance we're in for another hollowing but with a worse game
?
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>>501909161
?????????????????????
You do know that you can kill several enemies in one run, right?
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>>501909489
1 Int
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>>501909161
12*12=132???
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>>501907603
>the first time
and that's why eventually enemies start despawning unless you're in the COC after 10-12 runs through them
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>>501909489
What a worthless post you have made
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>>501907817
>>501908259
the blacksmith hammer you get early on from mcduffs room absolutely rapes the iron keep even if you dont upgrade it lmfao because of its counter modifier and the fact it hits multiple times per swing
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>>501909528
>>501909858
It's not worthless I was asking for elaborating, that post means nothing
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>>501908929
>>501909161
12 * 12 is 144 you fucking idiot. And you're definitely going to be killing multiple enemies per run.
Good god did you just not learn your times tables?
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>>501909072
The enemy types are identical, the enemy layouts are worse. Iron Keep originally only had about 5 encounters between the bonfire and Smelter so it was less repetitive. They came close to tripling the total number of enemies. In the original, there was one knight on the first ledge in the lava pool room. Now there's 3 and one more that comes up from below. It's the exact same fight on the same platform 4 times in a row

It's a standout area for how boring and repetitive it gets, but they did similar things throughout the whole game. You'll fight one dude in an area in the original, now a second or sometimes third one spawns after you killed the first. Instead of a gradual escalation where you fight more complex battles against slowly increasing numbers of a variety of enemies, you fight the exact same dude several times in a row with 0 changes.

>>501909161
You might first need to explain how addition works to help someone that stupid understand.
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seeing how badly scholar filters shitters makes it my favorite FROM title
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MADDY ARE YOU OKY
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>>501910498
You dont have to say that and yes why
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>Runbacks used to have consequences because you might lose your souls
>Nowadays not only there's almost never a runback, you can get billions of souls in one L2 click and it's all because casuals complained
Hahaha....
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>>501910151
>with 0 changes
This isn't true though. And often, there are ways to interact with the environment that will kill most of the enemies in gank rooms. SOTFS is basically structured and balanced like a King's Field game, but in 3rd person.
The game goes out of its way to teach you about this early, too, as the forest of fallen giants has multiple areas for you to learn how to do this. What changes about environmental design as the game progresses is how subtle the environmental interactions are, as they become less obvious as the game goes on. E.g. leading all the soldiers out of the ballista room to let the ballista kill them all in the forest, or using a firebomb in the garden filled with black barrels to clear the enemies walking around vs leading iron keep knights either into the furnace to lock them inside and kill them with the furnace, or leading them back to the secret room with the ballista to shoot them down, or dropping their platforms into lava, or using the hidden perch to snipe down at them where most of them can't hit you with spells or bow/arrow, etc., or kicking down the explosive barrel onto them from that same perch, etc.
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>>501910868
>men cry and whine and piss th3mselves about not being able to optimize the game out of the game and having to do run backs
>fromsoft removes it to cater to them
>"this is somehow women's fault"
Kill yourself
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>>501910868
runbacks were never fun
t. have been here since DS2
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>>501911315
They were calming after a hard fought (and lost) battle and gave some variety and bits of warmup gameplay inbetween attempts
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>>501911518
some runbacks are shit though. for example the runback to alonne is fucking cancer
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>>501911274
>LEAVE WOMEN ALONE CHUD!!!1!!1
rumao
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thoughts on runbacks? good or bad?
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>>501911685
Reread >>501911274
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>>501911614
That could be fair, I never played that one
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>>501911734
>Taurus
>the French fry kitten
No
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>>501910892
Those are all encounters that are almost unchanged from vanilla DS2. Vanilla DS2 had okay enemy placement and good environmental mechanics if you learned to engage with it but the changes between versions mostly amount to repetition. Scholar added more enemies but rarely made it more challenging or engaging to fight them. When I said "with 0 changes" I was specifically referring to that one ledge. That one ledge has you fight a single Alonne knight while a captain snipes at you four times in a row, and there's no change in those four fights. It's a more time-consuming but not more interesting bit of gameplay.
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>>501911734
I am a runback enjoyer but the areas has to be designed for an enjoyable runback
>>501911614 alonne's sucks ass for example, and so does blud and ziggy but the runback for twin princes is really fun
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>>501911734
Tedious at best, sadistic at worst. If I'm getting reamed by a boss fight, I want to get back and try again as fast as I can.
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>>501911934
>unchanged from vanilla ds2
I don't know why I tried to argue with you in good faith.
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>>501911762
I hope she see this bro
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>>501911825
>be alonne
>be memory boss
>this means there is a HARD 20 minute time limit before you get booted back to the bonfire
>you have to fight a bunch of aggressive high poise knights, archers, and a bunch of giant salamanders that shoot high damage high knockback fireballs at you
>you CANNOT just run past them because one of those salamanders is blocking the way to the next room
>you MUST kill everything in the room because the salamander is too strong to kill in 1-2 hits and the enemies will chase you to the boss even if it was a clean run
>the next room can hypothetically be run through to the boss fog but its pretty hard
What most people wind up doing is completely clearing the first room of knights until they despawn, then kill 1-2 knights at a time on runs to the boss fog
its laborious and shitty and drains your resources before you even get to see alonne, who is himself a difficult boss
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>>501912312
vanillatards are very insecure about their game
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>>501911734
Objectively bad, they only exist to pad game length because all of DS or DeS is smaller in actual gamespace than Limgrave. I won't miss them.
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>>501911518
>They were calming after a hard fought (and lost) battle and gave some variety and bits of warmup gameplay inbetween attempts
You can still do that without a runback by walking away and fighting nearby enemies. The only thing that MANDATING runbacks do is make you waste time, both directly (by making you go through the same area twenty times) and indirectly (by disconnecting you further from the boss's moveset so you don't learn it as quickly). It's literally just filler, the level design equivalent of those recycled dragon leg model followed by seven Taurus Demons enemies in Izalith.
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>>501912701
I always thought alonne having a runback at all was fucking retarded
He's a boss in a memory zone, so why bother with it? The other memory zones didn't have meaningful runbacks for this very reason, there were strict time limits so the amount of shit you could be expected to deal with in that time frame was also necessarily limited. The DLC's were honestly proof to me that only midwit feedback was reaching tanimura's ears, especially with how praised the DLC's were when they came out despite being the worst designed parts of the game.
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>>501912589
>>501911274
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>>501912109
I think the other problem is that the bosses keep getting harder, so if u had a super long runback for like malenia, it just wouldnt work. But ds1 bosses are pretty simple so its not as aids.
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Bros, what do you think about scadutree fragments?
I kind of get why they exist, but I personally don't like it. I have trouble putting to words why, but I think it's because it feels so disconnected from actual character progression.
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>>501913167
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>>501913416
this is also true.
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>>501913714
>>501911274
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>>501911734
I like them in theory but they're incompatible with fromsofts idea of dark souls
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>>501913835
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>>501914068
>>501911274
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>>501911274
for once I agree with maddy
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>>501907669
It's the price of collecting rare mounts, I guess.
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>>501914394
You don't have to say that
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>>501913602
get your filthy HANDS off of my WIFE
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>>501913602
I liked it at first but sort of soured on them
I think Reforged did the concept better, making there be more of them and you can trade them in for different upgrades that you choose
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>>501913602
>>501915018
off of seluvis's wife*
ftfy
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>>501913602
Textbook open world bait mechanic: it pads out your first run, and during that first run it feels good, but it feels awful on every subsequent run when you realize you gotta run around all these obscure corners of the map doing a WW Triforce hunt because otherwise you're hard gatekept out of damage and resources. Same issue as having to re-do dozens of shrines in BOTW, you might have fun in your first playthrough but god damn does it kill the fun of subsequent runs.
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>>501915195
OTP
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>>501915195
The girl that Selvius kidnapped to make into the puppet has no good ends, it's so funny
She either gets killed by Jerren and you, gets her body turned into the giant ball for something she had no hand in, or stays Selvius rape doll forever if you never progress the quest
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>>501915265
That's the entire game
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Anyone down for an FC?
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>>501916161
Only if you post your pubes.
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>>501916161
Yeah but it'll be like 20 minutes for me and I gotta give someone some upgrade materials first
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went undefeated in invasions today cunts. that's only 11 wins because Xbox is completely dead but still feels good. saw a message from someone in the erg group password so I know one of you was out there too
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>>501916456
You're confusing me with someone else. If you joined previous FCs I'm the haydee guy
>>501916643
Sure thing, will open one later
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>>501916932
Whoops, I thought you were Madison. I really want to see her pubes.
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>>501917149
t.
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>>501917521
I really want to take a long deep sniff of her unwashed puss... I wonder if she cuts herself down there too...
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MADDY ARE YOU OKAY
ARE YOU OKY MADDY
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>>501903438
Ready for materials and then FC?
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>>501917781
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>>501853334
I'm playing reforged
where the fuck are the smithing stones?
I got stuck trying to find 5s and now can't find 7s for the last upgrade of that tier.
The wiki has no info
and FUCK using trooncord
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>>501918475
I CAN'T
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>>501918540
dogged general
dogged website
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>>501918540
Not eldie ring
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>>501918512
There's 1 7 after godskin in Volcano Manor, then like Lake of rot apparently has some and some in mohg
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>>501916932
Oki well since I'm not sure of that materials, wanna start it now?
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>>501918512
Ask discord
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>>501918805
>>501918831
yes that's eldie ring
goldne hippo.
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>>501918374
Sure. You want to summon me or should I summon you?
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>>501919473
Not true, that's something from like dark souls or something
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>>501919603
You summon me
Use "erg" no quotes as the password
First steps?
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>>501919639
>he missed the frozen hippo fight
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>>501919276
Yep let's do it
Lads come on and join up!
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I'm gonna play NG plus at RL125 with Taunter's Tongue on 24/7. I want each site of grace to feel like a mission. To make it more interesting, I want to stick to themed builds. I have a pure cold sorcery mage ready to go. Wish me luck, bros.
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>>501919769
Awawawawawawa one secs
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>>501919639
>he missed the frozen hellscape zamor 2nd dlc
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>>501919940
'trec is never coming back
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>>501919865
No one joined yet so you're fine
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>>501919710
Sure I'll go there now.
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>>501920050
I know but I feel bad for making you wait
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>>501920067
I placed sign right by the grace
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>>501919994
wait did we get a lautrec type guy in elden ring
holy hsit

huh.
that's fucked. wait
fia i guess?
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>>501920095
It's okay, I have had to sometimes wait for hours when hosting FCs with /dsg/ lol
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>>501920513
MOOD
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>>501920067
Oh my god I'm an idiot
I fucking used them instead of giving them to you
I thought by going red I could avoid someone invading but I can't drop them, one sec
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>>501920067
>can't leave smithing stones
Oh
Well I mean like at least like you can level up to 150
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>>501920905
Lol. I was wondering what you were doing. Np
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>>501921206
Oki now you can level up and join >>501919769
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2/4 now!
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Cool, time to lose a rune arc to Thollier and his gay faggot n-word quest line
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>>501921619
sir gideon does not approve of your thottery
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>>501921581
Thanks! I'll queue up
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Poiseblobs are less embarrassing than type b troons at this point frfr
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It says 3 remaining for me. Something's wrong
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>>501922410
Did you set it to "Any location", Combat Ordeal, 4 Combatants with an erg password?
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frfr no cap?
>>501922345
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>>501912701
Man, this post made me remember why I disliked DS2 lol. Alonne was a great boss and they make you do this absolutely retarded runback. Jesus christ.
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>>501922410
Can you like acreenshot what your settings for the colleseum are? Because we're sitting at 2/4 waiting for you
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>>501922450
I only have limgrave and leyndell unlocked, sorry
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Okay well go get rhe caelid one, 3/4
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>>501923454
>>501923509
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>>501923509
Alright I'll run through soifra real quick
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Fuck my internet is acting up again, give me a few minutes to requeue
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>>501924090
That happens sometimes yea its okay
I have a heated blanket and food but I feel like I'm forgetting something about the fc
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>>501924274
what are you eating?
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>>501924472
Shrimp chips
They are very gross
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Back now
>>501924274
Sounds comfy, not sure what you could be forgetting tho
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>>501924542
Probably to record for webms, I'm not gonna bother
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Haven't played in a while, just downloading the DLC now. Is 125 still the best invasion range for all game? I'm not asking about meta. I'm asking if you still get scrubs and vigorlets at that range. I want to be able to invade every possible area in the game.
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>>501923803
Did you unlock it yet??
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hurry up aaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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3/4
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4/4
Yay
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No fair, me deflecting the thirst on3 was really cool
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(And then you requeue)
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Damn roaring dragon bastard. Sorry it took me so long to get ready
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I think some of you have to requeue. I did and it says 2/4 now
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fug this im gonna invade instead
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Well that one fight was fun at least, it's a Monday so that makes sense
Gg everyone
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>>501927610
GGs too. Weird how half the FC disappeared after the first match but okay
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Gg guys. I'll upgrade my weapons before the next one so I'm not poking for like 200 damage. Sorry again about the holdup
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>>501902197
Shoro?
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>>501912312
???
I'm sorry, but I don't understand why you think I'm not speaking in good faith. Did I misunderstand the point you were trying to make? The FoFG ballista stuff was in the original, the bomb barrel kill room is in vanilla (but changed to kill 3 enemies instead of a single ironclad), the furnace and ballista was in the original, and if memory serves the explosive barrel you can kick down was in lost bastille and in both versions. I'm not saying that Dark Souls 2 had the worst encounter design, far from it! All I'm trying to get across is that the encounters in Scholar don't IMPROVE on the original, they're often a step down because they're more repetitive or at best repeating what Vanilla already did. I'm not complaining about the gank rooms. I'm complaining about the points where you fight the same dude several times in a row in a sequence. This is different from several at once.
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>>501922572
>one DLC boss made me hate the entire game
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good morning erg!!
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>>501911906
tauruses are all fatasses who will when hungry compliment a fry + drink combo as though it were a serving of fine cuisine anytime don't lie to yourself
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>>501930252
I more just meant how the kitten is gentle and kind, imo/my experience they're way more brass and annoying, but yeah I guess the food part is fair but I was thinking more the temperment
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>>501930028
Good morning but it's night
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>>501930907
bad picture
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>>501922572
>they make you do this absolutely retarded runback.
wow it's like the devs of DS2 foresaw your skill issue and made it so they stop spawning after you kill them enough times as a kindness for you.
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>>501931591
How?
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>>501932079
the same people who say shit like that anon were also the same people who complained about the despawn mechanic btw
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Godslayer greatsword or fire Knight's
The poke r2 is cool
But muh aow
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>>501932081
boring, shallow, gimmick
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>>501930907
the sun rises a little late this time of year sure, but here this hour does still toll for dawn crowds all the same, your smelly time zone has my deepest condolences for the time being
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What's Elden Ring like on XBOX FAT? I found some fatties for cheap and wanted to know if it's any good. PS4 is much more expensive and there's no gamepass
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>>501935182
You think its too shallow and she should go deeper, wowowowowowow
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What happens to the scars when she changes into a snake?
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>>501936890
I'm actually not even sure she actually HAS a human form. You get the necklace that has like the picture of the noble on it for her that looks like rya and like it's the same type of necklace that you use to swap between invader and host visuals. It might not be like an inherent human then lizard swapping, the human might just be an illusion from the necklace
But I prefer that she does switch so my assumption is that like she has the scars underneath the scales
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>>501940857
Im so retarded I was just spamming /dsg/ because I was in the wrong thread
Im sorry
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>>501940924
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Is there anything George did in Elden Ring? I could understand it if George had made a Souls tribute series, but there's a lot that doesn't feel like it was written by George.
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explain
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>>501869654
>>501869471
>>501869112
>>501868537
>>501868341
>>501867190
We had this talk about Dark Souls 3 alreadt
Just because you didn't understand the lore, it doesn't mean you can make headcanons about muh cut content
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>>501867038
>the lore got rewritten very near to the release. Eclipse eyes imply the Godwyn thing was real
Headcanon
The Eclipse is never associated to Godwyn returning. It's associated to the Sun Realm though, and Miquella's eyes aren't showing the Evlipse but a sun shining.
>>Land of Shadow is effectively the netherworld for TLB
No, it's the Land of Shadow, where things without grace that die go
>>The Scadutree gets virtually zero lore or explanation
False, it's the Shadow of the Erdtree, which collects the soul of those dying without grace
>>Prince of Death is irrelevant and absent in the land of death
The Prince of Death is relevant to the base game lore, and to the Shattering
>I'm just a lorefag
You are not a lorefag, you are a newfag, otherwise you would know not to expect the most boilerplate plotline from Miyazaki. The Eclipse is tied to the downfall of the Sun Realm, which was the era precedent to Marika. Miquella's reversal of the Eclipse and the sun shining is him removing the causality of Marika's Order from the world.
The Eclipse specifically, seems to trap demigods that weren't slained between life and death. Godwyn is just the last of them as Ensha and the Mausoleum with Nox architecture reveals. You want to flatten worldbuilding to fit Godwyn where there's a way bigger picture to it
The bleeding sun and the sun shining in Miquella's eyes look nothing alike >>501854568 and the DLC picks an inspiration the Comviction Arc of Berserk, where Griffith makes the Sun shine with a process that is THE OPPOSITE of the Eclipse, so what Miquella achieved is not an Eclipse, literally the opposite.
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>>501943171
headcanon
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>>501853334
I feel like I should take out terra magica out of my spell selection - unless I move I die
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>>501858571
>Retarded and bad player gets fucked by spammy retards
This is bad somehow according to /dsg/troons
>>501864449
Yeah let's make more useless dogshit trick weapon to ignore completely and that offer no advantage or gameplay variety whatsoever.
>This goes in hand with R2 being a wasted input because stationary charge attacks are awful
I wasn't expecting you to have actually played the game but you could have went through the effort of researching meta at least, retard
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>>501855372
And to achieve what?
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>>501855372
Ashes of War are fine. Armored Core VI put cooldowns and everybody called it out as lazy way to avoid balancing spammy gameplay, but Elden Ring has already animation committment, stamina and mind for attacks. If cooldown was a thing, being unable to use a skill when needed would be ass
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>>501854568
It's incredible how you are this fucking obsessed over something you also bothered to research or understand so very little.
Do you still think Godwyn Knights have the Eclipse?
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Godwyn is noncanon
There
I said it
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>>501945262
how do you show level and ping?
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>>501945370
Seamless
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I give up, I don't wanna bother with furnace golems, it's a pain, smack smack run away on torrent, smack smack, I don't wanna do it!
People say to throw some pots from on high but this first golem is in the open
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>>501946127
just look up which golems drop what and only kill the ones you need
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>>501943171
>>501945164
>his tears, forced headcanons and selective ignoring of in-game information and descriptions still flow
Never stop the salt.
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>>501938241
Oh that's cool about the necklace. You may be right, like it's more of a magical disguise she puts on than an actual human body.

And yeah I feel really stupid even asking cause snakes get scars like anything else and she still has legs even as a snake so the scars would probably just stay where they are...
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Remembrance weapons are kinda lame in general, I thought hand of malenia would have un je ne sais quoi to it but it lacks a certain oomph to it
I'm disappointed
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*cuts off Madison's tits with a rusty knife*
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>>501956717
Why would you do that
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>>501956929
It is an act of love
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>>501956989
You're weird!
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So, did they ever do anything to make co-op in the DLC less frustrating?
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>>501956717
You sont have to any that amd ouchie
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>>501960645
Are you drunk honey
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>>501956717
>>501956929
MADDY ARE YOU OKAY
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>>501959374
I've taken to wearing shabriris woe and keeping fan knives on me to snap aggro back onto myself as quickly as possible
It's the only way to save these shitters from their own incompetence
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>>501960726
No
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>>501960964
You don't have to say that
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>>501956717
>this post is allowed
>My post about Boggart and shrimp isn't
Suck my cock janny. Watch your step or I'll spam the general.
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>>501961301
>>501878304
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good morning /erg/
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MADDYS TITS ARE YOU OKAY
ARE YOU OKAY MADDYS TITS
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>>501961580
Good morning uglyanon
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>>501961662
what the fuck. why would you call me that
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>>501961738
Good morning, ugly disgusting revolting slime-leaking vomit inducing anon
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>>501962017
Fuck you bitch
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>>501962017
I'm going to cry
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>>501961662
I'll have you know I am, in fact, of renowned cuteness.
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>>501961612
You don't have to say that and yeah
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>>501962165
More like re-no cuteness
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>>501962351
dreadful reply my sweet baby, I know you can do at least a little better than that
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Whole lotta violent sexual fantasies in this general...

>>501952886
Yeah they'd feel a lot more significant with unique move sets in addition to the (mostly,) unique skills. Especially since we find so many powerful, unique weapons out in treasure chests or just sitting in a corner that seem like they'd be boss weapons
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about to jerk off
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>>501943413
TM has 2 main uses
setting up for a comet azur and plopping it down so you can summon latenna and then walk away
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>>501965435
don't do it
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>>501965435
Me too. Haven't quite decided on the poison yet though.
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>>501865723
No, only some of them. DS1 actually just had most weapons block if you 2h L2'd them. There were no paired weapons or power stance. Only a few weapons had a parry on L2, and all of them were shit except the painted guardian curved sword and parrying dagger. DS2 added power stance, and most weapons when 2h had a parry. Most of them were shit, and parrying was harder in general than in DS1 so if you wanted to parry you were better off just running a buckler or power stancing with a dagger or curved sword.
DS3 had weapon arts, which were generally the same as ashes of war, but way shittier and with way less variety.
In Bloodborne L2 performed an attack with your left hand weapon. This was almost always going to be a gun of some kind which meant initiating a parry, but sometimes it meant using a torch jab or an iron fist punch or raising a shield (kek).
In Sekiro, L2 activates the grappling hook.
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I was actually having a good time fighting the lion at 0 blessing until its grab killed me from 90% health. I really don't think the scadu fragments were a good idea, the balance is almost right without them except for the idiotic boss damage output. The real issue is that From didn't come up with more interesting boss concepts. Of all the major bosses I think Midra is the closest to having a good idea, since it has the additional hurdle of managing frenzy buildup and he's kinda slowed down compared to the others to account for that extra element.
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>>501866206
Probably not
personally though I kind of wish we'd get something like a new shadow tower or lost kingdom. Or another new IP would be fun too.
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>>501967002
Lost Kingdom is kinda overrated.

t. emulated it on my deck earlier this year
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>>501967148
fuck you nigger you're overrated
I wouldn't know I don't listen to other people's opinions. I always liked it though
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ALRIGHT THATS IT YOU KNOW WHAT RANNI DID DO SOMETHING WRONG
I NEED you all to understand something look at her corpse. She's damn near 9 feet tall. Her corpse also has a butt as large as or larger than marika's. We see from her aunt that carian women had large breasts too. She had cute red hair. She was a massive fucking nerd and that's the only thing she kept over. It's implied that carian women are lovesick. You could've had a 8-9ft tall, nerdy, lovesick, red haired, large assed like marika, large breasted like rellana, magical wife with large cute feet like her mom. But she killed it. She killed it. This is worse than killing godwyn. How can you abide by that rannifags? How? She threw perfection away. I don't care if you genuinely love her regardless. Imagine the personality you fell in love with and an amazing body on top of that. You were robbed. Robbed more than maliketh was of the rune of death. Robbed worse than godwyn was of his soul. Robbed worse than a guy on a bike in a black neighborhood. RANNI DID WRONG. THIS CANT BE DEFENDED.
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Why did she do it?
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>>501967616
pumping
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>>501967148
>>501967239
imagine an eternal ring 2
from would NEVER because people would confuse it with elden ring
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>>501967616
She thought it would be funny
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>>501967616
tl;dr? BPD woman moment
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>>501966772
Funny thing is weponarts were balanced well for pvp but that made them shit in pve. Now in elden ring it’s the opposite.
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>>501967751
pumping
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Maddy gawking at the size of my bully's BBC....
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>>501967783
I miss FROM's old output. They used to churn out bangers like nobody's business
Until dark souls came out in 2011 they averaged 4 titles/yr. That's 44 games between 2000 and 2011.
between 2011 and 2024 they've made 13 games. Almost 1/4th the output.
Grim. And that shit wasn't shovelware they were developing either.
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>>501970930
jerk off before posting, cuck
>>501970968
tbf from used to develop mostly one off single-A niche titles. the lowest budget game they've published since dark souls would be considered a AA game.
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>>501971253
i guess yeah
there's also to consider that there were plenty of handheld platforms to develop for at the time, they did a fair number of DS and PSP games
kings field additional still looks kino
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Man I wish there were re-runable dungeons in the game for farming rune arcs would give you a lot more changes for co-op and PvP it seems pretty dead at the moment and its a shame once you clear a boss that's it done. Need an area like chasm of the abyss in ds2 where when you get to the end its a random boss of some sort and you have to light 3 tortches each time to access it. Then make 3 or 4 different dungeons allow 2 co-op'ers plus 2 invaders and it would be great.
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>>501971452
Arenas should also allow you to fight NPC phantoms for rune arcs, change my mind
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>>501971945
I do honestly hate how shortsighted online elements have made the developers making these games
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can anyone help me transfer items from 1 character to another?
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In the Japanese text Mohg is directly referred to as a yorishiro and Marika and her kin as miko. These are specific Shinto religious terms.

Yorishiro = a vessel capable of attracting a divine spirit (kami) and giving them a physical space to occupy during religious ceremonies. Remember the talk about horned beings (like Mohg) being associated with spirits?

Miko = a Shinto shrine maiden who can summon kami and become a vessel for them by doing a specific ritual. Remember the talk about Marika being a vessel of the Elden Beast? Miquella is an androgynous clone of Marika who's explicitly ascending the same way.

In Shinto, the deification of generals, particularly prominent military leaders, is often seen through the concept of "kami," where individuals who displayed exceptional leadership and bravery during life could be considered as spirits or deities after death, particularly if they were associated with a specific clan or region; a notable example is Hachiman, the war deity, who is considered the deification of Emperor Ōjin, a historical Japanese ruler known for his military prowess. But they have to die first. Also on the subject of Shinto,

Kannushi = a "divine lord/master of ritual", responsible for summoning the kami, always a man while the miko is a woman

Note that in addition to being a war God Hachiman is also a god of archery. Radahn is referred to as a war god in the Japanese text and uses a bow.

Tl;dr: Radahn made the vow to help with the ritual but for the ritual to work he has to ascend himself first. He does this by fighting his war and then dying against the only foe whose defeat of him would not disqualify him, the mighty undefeated Malenia. He then goes to the divine gate and performs his role as kannushi with Mohg as yorishiro and Miquella as miko. In the end Miquella and Radahn's ascended spirits (kami) are bound to Mohg's physical body, and both fade away when they vessel is slain (like the Divine Beast).
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>>501972908
Japanese translation = don't care
English game
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>>501971945
yeah that would be fun too, I enjoyed fighting the ones for great jar talisman and in fia's boss fight.
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>>501972979
Retard.
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*taps on glass*
HELLLOOOOO?
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>>501974647
Hewwo?
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>>501972908
This Shinto ritual is also literally what's being described on the scroll Ansbach deciphered.

秘儀の巻物
白い樹皮の巻物
影に隠された塔にあるという
神の門の秘儀が記されている
だが、読み解けるのは、ごく一部だ
神の帰還は王により導かれ
王の魂には、依り代が求められる

神の帰還は王により導かれ
王の魂には、依り代が求められる

依り代 is directly yorishiro. It's not a general term for a "vessel", the word has no other meaning. 神 is kami of course. The Lord 王 is summoning the god 神 to the vessel 依り代 that they're both using, implicitly because in addition to playing the role of kannushi 神主 divine lord of ritual, he has himself also become a kami (hence the reference by Miquella to a "strong soul" in Japanese).

https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BE%9D%E3%82%8A%E4%BB%A3?oldid=41804734
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*yawn* schizo hours
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>schizo hours
>namefag hours
>egirl hours
>the dlc actually sucked hours
>lore sucks hours
>dsg raid
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>>501979605
coomer hours?
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>>501979605
>>the dlc actually sucked hours
>>lore sucks hours
These are both true
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>>501972593
bump
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>>501979703
yeah that too i forgot
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>>501979703
awoooooooooooga
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>>501972908
>>501977403

Based lorechad dropping knowledge. Very cool stuff. I always lurk these threads for someone to drop some gold like you just did once in a while.
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>xe started samefagging
not a good look
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>>501981806

Lorechad? He's a lore GOD. I wonder if he does his own research and owns a Japanese copy that would be so cool.
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>>501972908
>>501977403
>>501981806
>>501982143
we haven't eaten this good since the Deep Thopps Lore thread last year and the related liurnia scholars.
it sucks because usually when we get good posters like that it makes schizos seethe and shit themselves until they wind up leaving
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>>501971452
chalice dungeons

>>501966772
Everything you said is right, except you forgot to mentioned that in the case where some of the tricked weapons in Bloodborne that required 2 hands when transformed, L2 changed to an attack unique to that weapon. It varied between all the weapons too. For example, the Whirlygig Saw's tricked L2 let you hold the button down to basically chainsaw everything in front of you, and you could slowly walk around while doing this damage continuously until you ran out of stamina.

The Blades of Mercy had a unique L2 that was a retreating double slash, and could be used very effectively while sprinting or to disengage from an enemy mid-combo.

Ludwigs Holy Blade, the Burial Blade, The Kirkhammer, and the Hunter's Axe had completely unique L2 combos that were 3-4 hits long. L2 combos were some of my favorite things ever - Bloodborne weapons had such varied and unique movesets, especially weapons that had L2 combos.

The Rakuyo, when tricked, had a lot of unique things going on. Firstly, in neutral, L2 was a spinning attack that had an additional L2 follow up. Tricked Rakuyo had a completely unique R2 combo where you alternated stabs with your dual wielded swords. But also it had the completely unique mechanic where if you pressed R1 then L2 or R2 then L2, your character would add a new attack to end your respective combo. For example, R1 + L2 would cause your character to do a slower, heavier swing with both swords for massive damage to end your R1 combo. R2 + L2 had you finish your R2 combo with a double stab from both weapons. The Rakuyo was already insanely good enough without this mechanic, especially its tricked R1 combo, but the fact that the devs put this extra love and care into it makes it all the better.

There's more, but man, I love Bloodborne so much I'll just post about it unsolicited sometimes.
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>>501982698
I have no clue about the Deep Thopps lore / liurnia scholars but it sounds interesting. Can someone fill me in?

>>501982698
Personally, I had a great conversation with a fellow lore enjoyer in this thread weeks ago about hornsent culture, Belurat, Enir Ilim, Marika's deception, and a bunch more. It was just genuinely enjoyable and insightful. I always wondered if its the same guy I chat with or just a few of you loregods. Either way, lets keep em coming.
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>>501983224
What if in hornsent culture, high class foods and feasts are ones that have a bunch different meats in them since it's like the crucible in your dish
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>>501983412
Oh for sure. I bet hornsent food was basically a mix of completely unrelated foods like meats, veggies, dairy, grains all blended and mashed together with some horns from the animals sprinkled on top as a garnish. Its basically canon at this point.
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>>501972908
>Remember the talk about horned beings (like Mohg) being associated with spirits?
This may also explain why the Omenkiller masks talks about them being infested by spirits in their nightmares and why the Omen Bairn shoots wraiths.
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Hey Maddy, what kind of job do you have?

>>501982698
What's the thing about Thops?
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>>501983603
Funny you mention that, I was thinking the exact same thing the other day. Perhaps the nightmares that Omens experience are basically the cries of the hornsent - invading their dreams, manifesting themselves in the Omen's subconscious as a direct consequence of the hornsent creating the Omen curse out their misery (not so different from the flame of frenzy being manifested by the merchants). Of course the Omen who experience these nightmares would have no idea why they're happening - and any who report it or talk about it would basically come off as mentally ill because Marika obscured the history of the Hornsent and the Shadowlands.
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>>501983950
You don't have to say that
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>>501984320
MADDY IS YOUR JOB OKAY
IS YOUR JOB OKAY MADDY
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>>501984482
Im an NPC streamer where my gimmick is I suck at keeping up with chat messages/prompts so I get frustrated and break character and talk about how hard it is and get mad at chat
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>>501984320
Seriously, what kind of work do you do that you're able to browse 4chan and play video games for like 20 hours a day? Where do I sign up?]
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>>501984036
I wonder if the two Omen on the bridge are supposed to have anything to do with the shadowlands
I know like they're just supposed to be mohg and moegott (one has cut horns and the other doesnt) but the way they teleport and ambush you in that weird shadow plane is very unique
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>>501984947
That sounds pretty funny actually
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>>501984980
I sell leg hair to the National Institute of Standards & Technology
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>>501983224
its in the archives but tl;dr
>analyzing jp text anons revealed that "bluntstone" actually just refers to thopps specifically, and that he was excluded from returning to the academy on purpose because of how much he made the academics seethe
>this is why they kill him, because he returned after they kicked him out
>it used to be a very common practice for glintstone sorcerers to impale their hearts with ritual glintstone daggers to create primal glintstones to body hop with, but at some point, it became seen as taboo and was outlawed. anons thought that this probably coincided with the rise of the golden order as a religion in the area
>basically glintstone sorcerers and by extension the academy(tm) acts like a chink cultivation sect
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>>501972908
>>501977403
See also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arahitogami
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>>501985738
I 'member
I also 'member the last time those threads got brought up a few months ago some ESL started feeding some of the jp text into google translate trying to disprove it and humiliated himself kek
What really interested me was the revenant lore that was being talked about but now that we have SOTE it really doesn't feel like it matters anymore
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>>501985242
First you give your pubes to ants and now this? What are they even doing with it?
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>>501986679
Making reference materials? It's the NIST, retard
At any rate, I take paper, scrape off the ink and wash it and put whiteout on it then resell it as new paper
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>>501986962
you're so weird
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>>501986962
>this is what it looks like when she really isn't like the other girls
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>>501987078
I'm not
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>>501987335
I get paid to declaw mosquitos
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Could Morgott have been used instead of Mohg? Or are they different?
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>>501987646
very different
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>>501987832
How?
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I see this place is still just as dogshit as it was when I took a break shortly after the DLC released. Are any of the fun old FC goers like pickaxefag, dexfag, dragonfag, punished corhyn, kill thief, cosplayfags etc even still around?
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>>501988249
Nah, now it's just an egirl and her simps
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>>501988249
No one cares
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>>501988249
FCs are still pretty regular but I don't know if I've seen any of that in particular, no
I remember one person that complained as characters and would use their movesets and gimmicks but like I haven't seen them in a few weeks
Still, gheyre fun and you should join!
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>>501988249
DLC killed off everyone
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>>501988385
How unfortunate, guess I'll wait for ER2 in 2050
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>>501988690
>doesn't play game or talk about the game
>"woe is me the general is so shit despite not engaging with any of the underlying game or topics about it"
OK bye
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>danes footwork isnt available until endgame
this is retarded.
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>>501988249
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>>501989672
You should be able to trade in Rune arcs for items you missed or for duplicates for items or to get items early
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>>501989802
The divot in the blanket looks kind of like his other eye, that's funny
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>>501988249
I'm still here
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>>501986637
I dont really think Japanese text words are that relevant, I feel like hyperfixating on the irl equivalents is sort of bad. Sword Saint Isshin is a Saint, ehich means someone that is with God and can help you communicate with Him. Does that mean Isshin became a Christian and is associated with swordliness of god?
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watcha doin
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>>501991603
Nigger, you're either actually retarded or are being disingenuous. Shut the fuck up.
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>>501991771
Fantasizing about playing Elden Ring while playing minecraft
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>>501991603
What if he is a Christian and he's becoming influenced by the western world which is why he has a German Glock 19 on him, showing his modernity and ability to change with the times??? (I don't know anything about Sekiro I'm just fucking with you.)
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>>501991864
OK just dont engage with anyone who disagrees with you, that will definitely help your point rather than showing me if I'm incorrect
I definitely won't just bounce off your idea and conclude that it's retarded
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>>501991603
how does
>wow it turns out that translators got this, this, and this wrong and it significantly impacts how you perceive (X) or (Y)
equate to the utter, inane schizobabble you just spewed? take your meds.
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>>501992006
Why would I engage with someone who either completely lacks reading comprehension or is going to do nothing but post in bad faith? There's no point.
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I have gone from thinking that I kind of disagree with people using Japanese translation as evidence to thinking that people who do are actively schizophrenic and retarded in about the span of 5 minutes so congrats
Your headcanon is noncanon
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>>501985105
For sure, that duo omen fight always stood out to me as really weird.
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>>501992246
pretty sure mike wazowski understands english enough to convey what he means. he's also pretty heavily involved with the translators and voice actors..
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>>501991603
>Sword Saint Isshin is a Saint, ehich means someone that is with God and can help you communicate with Him. Does that mean Isshin became a Christian and is associated with swordliness of god?

completely retarded
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>>501991603
>Sword Saint Isshin is a Saint, ehich means someone that is with God and can help you communicate with Him
"Sword Saint" is an actual historical title for the best swordsman in Japan.
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>>501992971
That's my point
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Coolest summon desu
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>>501993039
>>501993198
See >>501992246
Sorry, boy who cried wolf, you already threw away what tiny bit of credibility you had, it's not canon
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>>501985738
>>analyzing jp text anons revealed that "bluntstone" actually just refers to thopps specifically
This is such a fucking retarded take. It's just an insult he applied to himself and perhaps others did too. The fact that you pseudos keep falling into this same dunning kreuger trap is so fucking pathetic.

>>501986637
You stupid fucking faggot, all I said was you were all fixating on "bluntstone" as if it meant ANYTHING other than the obvious insult that it was. The rest of the theory is irrelevant and might or might not be true because it's all up to interpretation.
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>>501993360
I want Elden Ring 2 to have permanent companions
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>>501992971
Yup
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>>501994002
Him being called a bluntstone obviously implies that all the other people are thought of as "sharpstones" which means that glintstones have embedded themselves deeply in the Academy's idea of physiology.
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>I have gone from thinking that I kind of disagree with people using Japanese translation as evidence to thinking that people who do are actively schizophrenic and retarded in about the span of 5 minutes so congrats
>admits that he's just a disingenuous shitposter farming (You)'s
my 6th sense for this kind of thing is rarely wrong
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>>501992246
>>501994443
No, I'm saying that me bringing up 1 counter example of how doing that could lead to incorrect conclusions led to you instantly being the most defensive faggot in the world which makes me not want to engage with your ideas
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>>501994004
Humans or like any monster
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>>501994435
>Him being called a bluntstone obviously implies that all the other people are thought of as "sharpstones" which means that glintstones have embedded themselves deeply in the Academy's idea of physiology.
Yes correct. It's just an insult but these literal retards were acting like there's some sort of secret hidden meaning and context in the JP and then using it to justify and entire headcanon about how and why Thops dies or got expelled or whatever else.

Troonslation faggotry is a cancer to be burnt away with extreme prejudice.
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>>501994570
Either I guess!
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>mfw the trannylation schizo is getting uppity again
Uh oh. No wonder the lorefagging for this game died within 2 years while people are still analyzing the souls trilogy to this very day.
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>>501994624
I agree with you now
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another reason to shut the general down
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>501994202
>i will trust the marketing telling me that im DEFINITELY not getting a watered down version of the real game
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You didn't bring up a counter example though, you just went off on unrelated schizobabble and got mad when I correctly pointed out that you were either shitposting or actually retarded
and you've admitted just now it was the former. Now cry harder.
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>>501987394
you are definitely a weirdo, but that's what I like about you
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>>501994624
>>501994713
stop samefagging
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>>501994675
>>501995049
he gets like this any time someone points out the poor quality of fromsoft localizations
if he isn't a paid shill then i can only attribute his behavior to genuine mental illness
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>>501994558
>>501995049
Like I said, there's something genuinely wrong with your brain, your headcanon isn't canon
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>>501995068
I'm not
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>>501995350
You just replied ti thw translation schizo though
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>he's still going
>he's still seething
>he's still screaming HEADCANON because the retards hired by FROM to tl the game are bad at their job
I was just joking when I told you to cry harder, fag. KWAB
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>>501995352
>>501995626
Reread >>501995352 and >>501994558
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>>501995626
just stop replying, it validates him. i'm mad that he does this every time we get actual lore discussion
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>>501995432
okay sweetie
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>>501995826
Reread >>501994558
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>>501982698
>it sucks because usually when we get good posters like that it makes schizos seethe and shit themselves until they wind up leaving
You mentioned him, he came.
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>>501994558
Holy fuck you are fragile as fuck lmao. Your ideas suck ass, I know you can't handle criticism but jesus christ fuck off, no one cares if you don't want to engage mine or another anons ideas. Yours suck ass lol
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>>501995971
You're the one who derailed the discussion away from translation by getting defensive about someone not immediately fully agreeing
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who fucking cares about this dogshit game's lore
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>>501996170
me
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>>501996061
See >>501996086
I'm not rewriting things every time when I already responded to an idea you repeated
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>>501996210
pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo
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>>501996170
Me
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>>501996245
>proceeds to reply to every single post
>"I-I'm not rewriting things"

maybe you need realize you're getting shit on by more than 1 anon right now. retard.
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>>501996314
you will try
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>>501996318

>>501996314
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>>501996350
I know that it's multiple people, I'm just saying that if you say the same thing that I'm not going to redo it when my first one was enough
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I just pooped super hard
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>>501996652
pics?
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>>501951003
>he says after seething for 5 months at canon
lol
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>>501996652
What if the scadutree was the scatutree and it was just made of poop?
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>schizo jumping at shadows
many such cases.
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>normal lore discussion
>Hey, here's my idea
>I dont agree, here's why
>Interesting, but I think this part here could be implying[...]

>trannylation lore discussion
>Hey, here's my idea
>I dont agree, here's why
>NONONO NO AIEEEE YOU CANT DO THAT NO YOU FAGGOT SHITPOSTER STOP FLAMING YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS THREAD I CANT HANDLE THIS AIEEE
This is why no one will take translation schizos seriously, not because the method is useless, it's not, but because you're so sensitive about anyone not agreeing
If you reply to this you're proving my point
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>>501997069
The dlc probably would not have reviewed as well because that would be a very strange decision that would have been not very popular
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>>501979605
amerimutts are a blight, yes
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So how to places without glintstones cast sorcery? Do they just not?
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>>501972908
>Tl;dr: Radahn made the vow to help with the ritual but for the ritual to work he has to ascend himself first. He does this by fighting his war and then dying against the only foe whose defeat of him would not disqualify him, the mighty undefeated Malenia.
Malenia didn't kill Radahm
There's a crucible in Aeonia sprouted from Malenia's bomb attack
The Crucibles blend death and corpses to create power and ascend individuals, this is seen for Rykard, the Greatroots, the Spiral Tower and many other examples of Crucibles.
Radahn's ascension was kickstarted by Malenia's bloom
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>>501997646
glintstone is just pyroxene so its unlikely to find places lacking it
although there are examples of catalysts without them so its pretty clear that you can cast sorcery without it
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>>501997326
Why not?
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>>501997897
It glows blue tho
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>>501997897
I just kind of assumed all of them like had glintstone in the core somewhere since the category says "glinstone staffs"
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>>501997996
thats you pushing your magic energy through it as a conduit, dingus
the only special glintstone we know of is the stuff the crystallians are made of, which is why sorcerers took to affixing pyroxene crystals to their catalysts in the first place
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>>501998227
wtf is pyroxene
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>>501998227
What about the lunar glintstone?
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godwyn is gwyn
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>>501998227
But isn't it glowing when they're mined? Plus if it's a real material, can you do magic with it irl? But that's really interesting though, I didn't know that sorcerers mentioned a real rock in their file names
What other ways do you think that they can make catalysts with? Mainly I was wondering at first if the Land of Reeds just didn't have sorceries
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The fun part is we can confirm the lore is last second slop trash because none of it matches even the latest cut content (cut so late it was still the actual game until the day one patch). Thank the dataminers for unveiling Michael Hacky's lies.
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>>501999012
Like what?
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>>501999528
Miquella's ending cutscene in the Haligtree.
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>>501999528
v.1.0 syas that the Fingercreepers are Rykard's cut off hands, DLC says they're children of Metyr.
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>>501997646
>>501997897
>>501997996
>>501998109
>Staff missing its glintstone. Wielded by sorcerers who believe that discovery comes through acts of asceticism.
>This staff only distinguishes itself when casting invisibility sorceries, but that is reason enough for some to wield it.
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>>501996652
Game should be called Brown Ring
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Breaking News: Steelovsky trooned out
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>>501998904
>Can you do magic with it irl?
no. some people thought so, but no.
>Isn't it glowing when they're mined?
There are many types of pyroxene that are thermoluminescent, tl;dr there are kinds that glow like that irl too
>What other things can they make catalysts with?
Anything that can become a focus I think, between the lord of death's staff using amber instead of pyroxene, or the staff of beyond using an eyeball, or the staff of loss which doesn't use anything at all and is just a stick
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>>501998558
>Pyroxenes are the most significant and abundant group of rock-forming ferromagnesium silicates. They are found in almost every variety of igneous rock. They also form under conditions of regional and contact metamorphism.
>The name pyroxene is derived from the Ancient Greek words for 'fire' (πυρ, pur) and 'stranger' (ξένος, xénos). Pyroxenes were so named due to their presence in volcanic lavas, where they are sometimes found as crystals embedded in volcanic glass; it was assumed they were impurities in the glass, hence the name meaning "fire stranger". However, they are simply early-forming minerals that crystallized before the lava erupted.
>The upper mantle of Earth is composed mainly of olivine and pyroxene minerals. Pyroxene and feldspar are the major minerals in basalt, andesite, and gabbro rocks.
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>>502002038
>none of my post types are on there
I'm going to hang myself
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>>502002038
All me btw
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>>502002289
oh yeah let me add: STUPID cat images/webms.
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>>502002543
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>>502002057
That's very interesting
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>>502001962
>It's real
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>>502002038
you forgot e-rping with the annoying femanon whore
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>>502003760
it says ryona gore time right there
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>>502002038
I love the second from the bottom left how it bleeds over into the next one because of how long it is
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>>502003949
eh fair
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>>502003949
>>502004094
fuck forgot to say you could also add malenia worship hours
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>>502003760
how do femcels like that exist?
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>>502004295
daddy issues

she has a nice body though
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We NEED to merge /erg/ with /ck/ so that we can shrimply talk about shellfish without being bothered
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>>502004398
That’s like all of the teenage girls who post on the internet now
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>>502004467
we need to talk about eggs
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>>502004490
Which half of that post did you mean?
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>>502004779
Yes
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I don't fucking get these souls games and ER especially. 1400 hours in and I can go on and on and on 10 hours straight. 2 hours in every other game and I need a break after few hours. Playing Slitterhead - good game, 2 missions and I'm tired. Not with Elden Ring. Miyazaki you bastard, how do you do it.
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>>502005276
I think it has to do with playing on controller or keyboard. I can play most games that are better with controller for 2+ hours as well, but as soon as I have to use my keyboard like for a shooter I legit can't play for more than an hour and a half. I just quit out the game and go lay in bed on my phone
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>>502005276
>>502005869
I can play with either kbm or controller for like 10 hrs straight lmao. For me it's just the gameplay loop + fromsoft usually makes it so hitting stuff feels good. Also pretty game.
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>>502004779
Do not check stats on what men think about women's bodies at various ages.
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>>502006501
I dont want to get off topic too much but yeah I do know about the spike that they have at the bottom end
Whomp whomp
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>>502005276
I get the tetris effect so bad with Elden Ring, where like I play out or like see the dodging and timings when in trying to sleep or daydreaming
tfw I panic roll and get hit even in my own brain
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>>501997190
I agree with you, and it's dismaying.
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>>502007587
The what?
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>>502007724
stop samefagging.
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>>502007724
You struck a nerve, the "women" are malding.
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I know what Elden Ring needs - Scholar of the Elden Sin edition. Make the DLC story connect to base game, fix everything related to Miquella, remove Radahn from DLC, add new enemies to DLC and remove endlessly repeating randomly placed enemies (like these endlessly repeating big birds).
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>>502008182
Tetris effect
Ye Olde name that came about because people who played tetris too much noticed they would basically be daydreaming about the way the blocks click together in their brain whenever they're unfocused
The Wikipedia article about it really isn't accurate imo if you decide to Google it, it talks about relating real world physical objects to it so maybe I'm the wrong on3 but like my understanding of it is basically redoing the same spatial logic puzzle in your brain over and over and over and over again and so elden ring scratches that same itch that tetris does for me
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>>502008717
I still think that Miquella's stupidity is tied to Miyazaki hating that he got so popular with the fandom.
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>I agree with you, and it's dismaying.
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>>502008937
I think I get it. I briefly had something similar, but for Touhou. It was a pain to get rid of it.
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>>502009119
Bullet hell games do that to me a lot too, I could never get onto it but I think Osu people probably get the same thing. My brain does it with Elden Ring's dodging
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>>502008567
samefagerald
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>>501986962
Now you're just being ridiculous
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>>502010442
No it's totally real
Also you know garlic powder?
Yeah
You're welcome
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Fucking
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Funny how in trailers Messmer was portrayed as this absolutely evil warlord. Yet in game the story has progressed so far that he has built a huge library, does archeological research and maintains a hospital.

All that Miquella did on a same time was some maniac-depressive episode where he just walked around in random places with his mental health deteriorating which culminated with him building a Frankenstein monster.
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>>502011503
Tbf it's not clear if its a hospital trying to treat them or if it's like a research lab where he's dissecting them
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>>502010405
answer:
because SOTE is actually two completely different DLCs that were combined into one and is thus incoherent with its two main quests.
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when's the nextt d
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>>502012231
What?
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>>502012269
d-d
dd d
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>>502012785
Do you specifically invade in that area with a bow, or is that just where most bow clips end up coming from because that area facilitates them?
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>>502013560
I have a small penis.
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>>502013438
>foreskin eater anastasia
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>>502013560
it's just random
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>>502013829
Thank yoy for telling me this, anon. I really, truly, deeply appreciate you letting me know this. Of all the uncertainties of life, it's so nice to know that at least I have you here to say that. I don't know what I'd do without this post, it's like a way to ground myself like an anchor
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Anons, I need opinions.
I want to make a new character going for a classic fantasy knight vibe, sword and shield you get me, the super basic knight armor looks awesome for this already but I was wondering if you got any recommendations, capes are welcome
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>>502014118
I forget the exact setup, but if you're looking for pike a like cobbled together hedge knight look rather than like a noble knight, I like Vyke's chestplate since it has like the raggedy cloak and dent in it. I think I used blaidd's gloves but I can't remember what legs and helmet went well with it
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>>502014118
i've been thinking about doing a john ring run with raging wolf set + beast crest greatshield + ornamental straight sword
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>invaded by "pls give boluses'
>drop boluses for them
>doesn't even attempt to pick them up and just attacks
What was his problem
Why make that your name even then
I dont get it
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>>502015117
Can't expect much from an invcel.
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>>502014118
Redmane knight armor looks rather cool, I think I have seen no-one wearing it.
Tree surcoat is nice too.
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>>502014118
>>502014696
I remember the gloves actually, it was just the leather gauntlets called "Gauntlets" sold by I think Kalle or the merchant near the night's cavalry in the erping peninsula (for some reason these gauntlets aren't on the wiki last time I checked)
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>>502014696
>>502014832
both nice ideas, I was considering the hosllow set minus tthe helmet or the carian knight or crucicle knight ones too. Bloodhound chestplate has a charm too...

I'll test em all and see which combo looks better, thanks anons
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>>502016424
redmane looks good yeah, I just wish the chest plate protection was different, the asimetry kills me a bit
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>>502016925
no problem bro
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>>502017083
you can take it to boc and modify it
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>>502015475
>Deleted
Weird.
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>>502017760
Hoe do you always know when posts are deleted? Do you just constantly refresh the page and constantly remember every post? I don't get it
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>>502018418
It says so.
Aren't you using 4chanX?
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>>502010616
You wouldn't lie to me, would you?

That's incredible, my spaghetti wouldn't be the same without you. You're so prolific, how do you do it?
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>>502018468
No, I post on phone mostly so can't use most of those types of things, I didn't know it could do that though
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>>502018762
I don't think 4chanX is compatible with phone.
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>>502018820
I know that's why I said that
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>>502018898
Yeah, but I don't think 4chanX is compatible with phones.
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>>502019175
Yeah that's ehy I don't have it
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>>502019247
But 4chanX doesn't work with phones, so you need to use desktop version, I assume.
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>>502019318
I would get it for the desktop but I mainly post on phone so I don't want thw two versions to be too different
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>>502019538
Yeah, but 4chanX doesn't work on phone.
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>>502020785
>>502020785
>>502020785
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>>502019673
Yeah
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>>502020989
oh hell, finally a new thread.
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>>502021341
I usually always wait till page 9 to make one



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